Pardon My Take - Jason McCourty In Studio, Scott Frost Does It Again And Mt Rushmore Of Things It Sucks To Be Late To

Episode Date: August 29, 2022

Football is back and Scott Frost continues to be a tremendous idiot (00:02:26-00:08:32). We talk the end of preseason, Aaron Rodgers admitting to more crimes and Aaron Donald fighting the Bengals (00:...08:32-00:18:36) . Who's back of the week including Conor McGregor getting head on his boat, Foul Ball Guy, Max Homa and more (00:22:30-00:40:35). Jason McCourty joins us in studio to talk about his career in the NFL, playing on the 0-16 Browns and winning a Super Bowl the next year, Good Morning Football and the media business plus NFL preview (00:40:35-01:31:54). We finish with Mt Rushmore of things it sucks to be late to (01:31:56-02:00:15).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:21 Talk about his career, talk a little NFL preview with him. Great interview. We also have Who's Back of the Week, the Mount Rushmore of Things that it sucks to be late to, correct? Is that how I phrase it correctly? I think so. Things you don't want to be late to.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Don't want to be late to. And that is also the debut of Team Hank by himself because he completely stabbed everyone else in the back and threw them all overboard. We have some real football to talk about, college football week zero, and a great show coming up to you in a second brought to you by our friends at Skrill.
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Starting point is 00:02:50 Today is Monday, August 29th and Nebraska is not back. Well, Nebraska is kind of very much back to what Nebraska's been doing. Scott Frost on the hot seat already. If he wasn't going into the season he is now. I saw an interesting stat. This was on the CFB football Reddit account on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:03:14 They said after yesterday's loss, Scott Frost is now 15 and 30 at Nebraska. Bo Polini was fired after going 67 and 27. If Frost wins his next 50 games in a row, he would still have a worse record at Nebraska than Bo did. Ooh, that's tough. Sky, so real football is back because we got to watch real college football on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Scott Frost, God damn it, that guy just keeps doing it to himself where every year it's like the Nebraska's good. They got a great, you know, new defense. They got a lot of transfer portals, new quarterback. What are they gonna do this year to fuck themselves over? Oh, how about go up by 11 and then try an onside kick when you have all the momentum?
Starting point is 00:03:58 And the best part about it is, do you know that Nebraska, this is actually the first year under Scott Frost that they have a special teams coordinator? No, I didn't know that. They finally installed a special teams coordinator. Scott Frost also finally gave up play calling duty. And part of when he gave up play calling duty asked what he's going to be doing.
Starting point is 00:04:16 He said, quote, I'll be able to go over and help with special teams as they're taking the field. So Scott Frost probably called in the onside kick. And on top of all of that, he has an offensive coordinator for the first time. It's not Scott Frost. And he already took, it took one game for him to throw his offensive coordinator under the bus.
Starting point is 00:04:35 He said, I think our offensive staff has to learn you've got to be a little more creative in this league. That's after one game. So that's a lot like what Mike McCarthy used to do. Right. Which getting an offensive coordinator and then giving him play calling responsibility is actually great for a head coach,
Starting point is 00:04:50 especially one that plans on losing a few games, because then you can always take back to play calling responsibilities and be like, I'm going to fix this one. It hasn't had enough Scott Frost input. So that's what the real issue is. He shuffled the deck. So when you said that he just got a new
Starting point is 00:05:03 special teams coordinator. No, he just got a special teams coordinator. So they make sure we're very specific. They're innovative in Nebraska. They now have a person who's in charge of special teams. I think Scott Frost might not have called that onside kick because it's like, you know how when people get air fryers and all of a sudden they just start air frying everything
Starting point is 00:05:21 and that's the only way that they cook now. So that's like having a special teams coordinator. Now you have a guy who's in charge of that. And so now he's going to like go overboard and have too much input. So maybe Scott Frost needs to not only take play calling responsibilities back from the offensive coordinator,
Starting point is 00:05:36 but also from the special teams coordinator. By the way, air fryer side note, everyone when we did our leftovers draft, they're like chicken wings. You got to pop in the air fryer. You're just re cooking them. That doesn't count as a leftover anymore. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:05:48 That's not in the spirit of the debate. People are like air fryer, dude, air fryer. It's like, well, that's, yeah, of course, if you re cook them, if you re fry them, yeah, they'll be good. Yeah, as a man that loves chicken wings, who would like to be buried under six feet of chicken wings when I die, I will be the first to tell you that chicken wings not a good leftover at all.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Not a good leftover. Yeah, Scott Frost did say, if I had it over, I wouldn't make the call. So he did kind of cop to the onside kick. And I just liked that we get these random college football games where every now and then when they play overseas, you get media that has nothing to do with college football. So an Irish media member asked him point blank
Starting point is 00:06:27 if he would think about stepping down as coach. Fuck yes. And he said no, but great that the question was asked. They call it sacked over there. Will you be sacked after this game? The guy, some Irish guy walked into the fucking news conference. It was like, wait, you're the coach and you did all that. I don't even follow football, but you should step down.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I wish he had asked him, do you regret not having your offensive line puke more during practice to prepare them for Ireland? And oh, they also had the free beer because the internet systems went down inside the stadium. So in Ireland, they were giving out free beer to people, which is incredible. I don't think they would ever do that in the United States. They would just, if you can't make money off it in the United
Starting point is 00:07:04 States, they would just be like, well, nobody's drinking this. In Ireland, that's better than Christmas Thanksgiving. What other holidays they celebrate over there? St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, we had a great cup snake. It was great to see footballs back. And so, yeah, Scott Frost. Back on the, I mean, that's the worst part.
Starting point is 00:07:23 We talk at length about, as a fan, you don't want to be a prime time game. If you're Scott Frost and you're a Nebraska fan, you don't want to be the first game of the entire season and have literally everyone who has just been begging for football for nine months is going to watch that game and come away with it being like, damn, Scott Frost is a moron.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's also crazy that they would call that onside kick in the first game of the season, because it's not like you have tape on their special teams. And you're like, oh, this guy runs back no matter what and puts his head down on a kickoff. They're just, Scott Frost was just like, you know what? He was trying to make a play out there. And it was also just the perfect dichotomy of Scott Frost,
Starting point is 00:08:00 who should have all the talent. And going up against Northwestern with Fitzgerald, who's just an awesome coach. And I did see that one Nebraska fan. I think it might have been parody, but I'm just going to assume, I'm just going to hope that it wasn't, was tweeting that, of course, the Irish refs helped out Fitzgerald.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Oh, Fitsy, never bad against a Fitsy in Ireland. Yeah, they was like, that's why this game went this way. I love that. Yeah, but it was a good way to start the season. I like having games in weird locations to start the season. They should play a football game on an aircraft carrier. I knew you were going to say battleship. Yeah, I love that when they start college basketball
Starting point is 00:08:35 on a fucking aircraft carrier. How sick would it be to have a football game on one? Yeah, it would. That's back this season, by the way. Yeah. On one in San Diego. Oh, nice. All right, so other news.
Starting point is 00:08:45 We missed on Thursday. We taped early. Aaron Donald Assault again. It's actually great because it's grown to a point where Schefter, I think, he did say Assault again. He did actually fact check and was like, under actual laws, this is Assault. And now he has his ESPN colleagues being like,
Starting point is 00:09:05 this is just football practice. Not realizing that Schefter's now in on the joke. He knew how ridiculous the first one was. So he doubled down with this one. And I saw someone on FL Live being like, this is what happens when you have football practice in training camp and two teams going against each other. Fights happen, which I totally agree with.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But let's give Schefter his joking now. Yes, he's joking. But it's funny. He's joking because he knows the Assault punchline is a thing. But I actually think if you gave him Truth Serum, he would be like, yeah, it is Assault. No, well, it is. Technically, he's by the letter of the law.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, he's not wrong. Unless it's Aaron, Aaron Donald should be allowed to do it. He, Aaron Donald can do whatever he wants. Aaron Donald, yeah, that guy is so scary. And for mostly on the field, but then he'll just be like training with knives and swinging two helmets at people. He'd be like, oh, OK, so he's just going to be scary.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I mean, I guess it's still on the field, but it's kind of off the field because they weren't playing and he was just swinging helmets. My favorite part of that entire situation was how McVay walked up to him and was very calmly putting his hand out like Chris Pratt in Jurassic World. He'd be like, whoa, whoa, big fella. Easy, easy, Aaron.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And Aaron just huffing like the Hulk with two helmets. He was one step, Sean McVay was one step away from taking out a tranquilizer dart. Aaron Donald's going to kill us all. Put him down. But it is crazy because people were like, Miles Garrett got suspended six games. Yeah, this was practice.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Fights happen in training camp. I wasn't shocked to see, yeah, maybe you probably don't want Aaron Donald with two helmets in his hands. But if you like Aaron Donald gets in, tries to fight entire Cincinnati Bengals team, in joint practice, it'd be like, duh. Well, also when Miles Garrett did it, it was against Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And so everyone was like, yeah, he's got a punchable face. I can understand that. And Aaron Donald in this situation was taking on the Bengals, who he just beat in the Super Bowl. So you kind of have like, there's a difference there. I don't want to victim shame Big Cap, but I'm very clearly victim shaming Mason Rudolph. I'm 100% on Aaron Donald's side.
Starting point is 00:11:08 And that he probably is like, this sucks that I have to keep going through practice and training camp. I want to play real games. Give me a helmet. I'm going to swing it at someone. I'm very much on the side, just like I'm on the side of the robots that will eventually take over this planet.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I want to be on the right side of history. And next time I find myself in a room with Aaron Donald, I want him to know that I do not hold this against him. I'm on your side no matter what. Please don't hurt me, Mr. Donald. And it's interesting because now I think in a game where it was Miles Garrett that did that, one, it was in a prime time game, which
Starting point is 00:11:39 made it way more visible. Thursday night. Thursday night, yeah. At the end, everybody was watching the game still. So that falls under the jurisdiction of Roger Goddell's fake cop policy in the NFL. In practice, I don't think that's a league call, is it? No, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I think it's a Rams call. No, it's a total Rams call. So the Rams guess they're not going to. So the Rams get to decide whether or not the best player in the NFL should be allowed to play in games for them. I think the Rams will probably have someone go up to Aaron Donald and be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:12:09 we were thinking maybe just finding you $10,000 just for show. And he'd be like, no. And then be like, OK, yeah, we agree. Yeah. It sounds good. Or just say that you're sending him to anger management. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Talk about your feelings for 30 minutes. You don't want to send Aaron Donald to anger management. You want all the anger. He would beat up the therapist. Yeah, and you just want him to be angry all the time. That's why he's the best player in the NFL. They should send him to reverse anger management and have somebody just like low key insulting him
Starting point is 00:12:35 and poking him with a cat-a-line or just getting him more and more angry. Yes, yes. All right, other things. Preseason is officially done. Thank God we're done with it. It's every preseason is the exact same way where week one happens in preseason.
Starting point is 00:12:49 We're all excited. This is cool. And then we're just like, fuck it. Let's get to real football. Like week three of preseason is a total fuck it. Let's just get to football. Yeah, this isn't even the dress rehearsal. That's the one thing that I miss about having four preseason
Starting point is 00:13:03 games is week three we'd all say, oh, this is the dress rehearsal. The starters are going to play a half. They just threw that out the window entirely. I wish somebody would do a correlation of if there is any possible relevance to how your team performs in the preseason compared to the regular season. We have enough data on there.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I would assume that some nerd has taken a look at it and come up with a formula saying statistically, if you don't win a game, you're X amount less likely to make the playoffs. Right. And it's also all done just like narratives that you just take. Like people will last year remember
Starting point is 00:13:36 Aaron Rodgers with the whole holdout and everything. And they got killed by the Saints. And I was like, oh, yeah, look at what he did. And then they won MVP. So it's just whatever narrative you want to go with. Last year the Rams went 0 and 3. Oh, there we go. So commanders.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Commanders, Super Bowl, Terry McLaurin. We called it. Bears went 3 and 0. So did the Jets. That was big, Billy. Huge. Huge. Trevler won all three games.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah. Trevler. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Flacco looks great. The highlight of the preseason, this is a highlight that I hadn't even seen till we started down. We had to make you aware of it.
Starting point is 00:14:07 We sat down to tape part of my take. Poe the Ravens mascot getting carted off the field after injuring his leg in a, was it a halftime? Yeah. It was like a halftime like football players against mascots. Yeah. Credit to Poe, which I expected him to do this, but still needs credit to not take off the mascot head
Starting point is 00:14:28 when he gets on the cart. Yeah. Because you could, like a lesser mascot will take it off and be like, there's a human under here. No, no, no. You keep that on. I hope he keeps it on for surgery if he needs surgery on his knee.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah. You keep it on forever. That's what you do when you sign up to be a mascot. So I'm not a doctor. I have examined the film in slow-mo. I think he's faking it. I think these mascots, they do this. You saw Blooper, like he knew that the cameras were on.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Blooper said Blooper is fucking assaulting kids. Being a bully out there. The fat fuck, he's just shamed of himself. He's fat, but he's also like, he moves quickly for a big man. But Poe, I think Poe's faking it. I watched the tape over and over again. I saw the left knee. Nothing out of the ordinary happened with the left knee.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Watch the video. Slow it down if you can. There's no buckling of the left knee. In fact, I don't think birds have ACLs or PCLs or anything like that. Billy will fact-check me on that, I'm sure, quite accurately. But I do not see anything in this video that says that there's an actual injury.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I think he's milking it. For the views, I think he's an attention whore. I think he's a me-first kind of guy. Yeah, but he's a good mascot. But he did keep the helmet on, or the mascot head on. And the lady was starting to pet his beak as he was going into the tunnel. I loved it.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It was great. Anytime a mascot gets hurt, or like we've mentioned it before, Jackson Deville, or the Nuggets mascot, who I think passed out while being lowered, you just got to keep the head on and just let everyone think that it's just an actual mascot, not a real human being under there. We don't want to have the illusion
Starting point is 00:15:59 be broken that we have to actually feel bad for a real human being tearing his ACL. We want to just think Poe did. Dude, if you get seriously injured in a mascot outfit, it's still funny. Yes. It's actually very hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Aaron Rogers should be in jail. He went on Joe Rogan. I'm going to have to go through this interview with a fine tooth comb, but he admitted to playing games on Percocets, which is just a tradition, I think, for Green Bay Packer quarterbacks. Well, it was very obvious when he slips into the southern accent.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Those are the games that he's on Percocets. Yeah. What else did he, I mean, he obviously said that he was trying to fake everyone out with immunized. We knew that, immunized, comments. So he said, I'm going to have a lawyer go through the transcript and just get an entire list of all the things that are felonies that he admitted to.
Starting point is 00:16:46 What's shocking, though, if you had gone back in time, like a year, maybe let's just say eight months after the immunization thing happened, and you were to say, Aaron Rogers goes on part of my take before he goes on Joe Rogan, you would have gotten plus 2,000 odds on that. Big time. He also, he said that there was the NFL brought around
Starting point is 00:17:05 Stooges to talk about the vaccine. And he said to Joe Rogan, I mop the floor with him. And I just thought that's exactly how Billy thinks every interaction happens in his life, where he's like, yeah, I mop the floor with those guys in this argument. Yeah, I think if Billy took ayahuasca, he would actually be very similar to Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Yeah, they would have a lot of ways. Almost the same amount of Super Bowls. Yeah, he only has you beat by one, but you still have time. You have age on your side. I'm trying to think, what else happened? Anything else that we? The Brian Robinson thing just happened a couple hours ago. So he got shot in a carjacking attempt.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So apparently, he's going to be OK. But anytime you get shot multiple times, it's not a good thing. I'd say no. I just, I hope Colin Coward doesn't go on the radio tomorrow and talk about how he deserved it. That and people talking about their fantasy teams online, as always.
Starting point is 00:17:56 We're in that season right now, right before the season starts and in any type of injury or like tragic thing happens like this one. And just like clockwork, some fucking morons going to get online and be like, oh, oh, sick. I handcuffed that. It kind of sucks too, because like when I saw the news about him getting shot,
Starting point is 00:18:15 obviously my first reaction was like, I hope he's OK. This is a tragedy that happens to him. But then I started thinking like when other players get injured, my mind usually goes to things about football. But when it's something, it takes something this serious to realize that there are human beings out there. Yeah. But yeah, I hope he's doing OK.
Starting point is 00:18:33 We are an anti-carjacking podcast after all. And anti-gunshots. Yes. Gunshots are bad. Usually. Yeah. I'd say they're very bad. We're going to say, Billy, you sprouted up.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I'll say for two who's back. OK, all right, nice. You got a couple who's back. Oh, Rory. Rory's back. Awesome golf final like round. Scotty Schaeffler just completely choked it away. I think he's a five strokes.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Huge choke job. Huge choke job. But Rory. Sportsmanship. What? Oh, yeah, he went up to Scotty Schaeffler's. He apologized to his parents. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 That's kind of a sun cocking on his phone. That's a subtle emasculation. Like going up to someone's dad. Do that, Jake. Yeah, you do that. He went up to Scotty Schaeffler's dad and was like, I'm so sorry. Dollars from your son.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. Was it 18 and 6 and 1 half? Yeah. Yeah. And Max got three. And I'm not saying that we're matchmakers, but a little birdie told me that Max in our pervert of the year and Blake of the year went out to dinner
Starting point is 00:19:31 and had a great time, a budding French. Yeah. They were spotted on the course. Yeah, no, I know. They went out to dinner after. Oh, OK. Yeah. And they had a great time.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Max told me that Blake's advice to him was just straight up, the pervert of the year is a great stepping stone to maybe one day become a Blake. That's true. That's true. I'm trying to think what has. Not all blakes are perverts. No.
Starting point is 00:19:53 No, not all perverts are Blake's, but all blakes are perverts. It's like when you look at the eventual, when a team wins a World Series and they go back and they're like, well, they had an incredible farm system like five years ago. If Max ever wins Blake of the year, it would be like, well, yeah, he won pervert of the year
Starting point is 00:20:10 back in 2022. He's hot. Yeah. He was building something. Exactly. Clearly, he had a program that he was establishing. He's adding to his resume. He did.
Starting point is 00:20:18 He shot a 62 on Friday. Yeah. Like, it's honestly a still didn't finish top 10, right? It's a little can. No, he did. Oh, he did. Top five. Top five.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Top five. Did he finish top five? Yeah, because Schaeffler choked. Yeah, that's right. Well, and he was talking about it too, but there was controversy, not controversy, but it's the only championship where the leader starts with more strokes.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Right, right. So Scotty, I mean, Scotty, I mean, he did choke. He had a two-stroke advantage and still lost. Yeah, he choked big time. Yeah, it was big. There's no sugarcoating that. No, it was a choke. If you're the supposed number one player in the world,
Starting point is 00:20:51 you should be able to put that away. But it is credit to us, though, because we're the first people, I think, on the planet that told you that Rory McElroy was playing the best golf of his career before the season even started. And Jay Moynihan probably is so pumped that his, because Rory's been the most vocal PGA tour guy. Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:10 PGA rig? Interesting. PGA might be rigged is what I'm thinking. Hmm. Also, I saw our friend Barstool Banks had a blog he reposted, but why does the PGA tour not do the big check? If they did the big check, they would kill the lift. Yeah, they definitely did.
Starting point is 00:21:25 If they just made a giant, giant check to give to Rory, like that is a perfect case where you show up, Rory wins, I'm talking like half a basketball court check. That would be nice. And just like, here you go, here's $18 million, because the bigger the check, people are going to be like, holy fuck, look at that check. Like, I want Rory, when they do those simulations,
Starting point is 00:21:45 like look how small the Earth is compared to the galaxy. I want to look like that when Rory's standing next to his check. It would also be sick if they just had an actual Brinks truck that drove all the money out onto the green. This is just WWE. Yeah, yeah, yeah, drive it onto the bank. Oh, money in the bank, have a ladder at the 18th hole. Have Tiger have a few pops get behind the wheel of the Brinks
Starting point is 00:22:05 truck and he speeds it out onto the green. It doesn't hit the brake. Not at all. You have to catch it. You have to jump on the back of it as it's going past you. And then his ex-wife is chasing him with a seven iron. Mm-hmm. That's, I think we just fixed golf.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah, we fixed golf once and for all. But yeah, that was some great drama down the street. Any time a guy chokes in golf, like on a Sunday afternoon, it's instantly got to turn it on. Yeah, I mean, Shuffler's kind of earning her a little bit of a reputation as a choke artist now. A little bit, a little bit. And Rory, well, Rory was the choker and now he passes it off.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah. So good for Rory. All right, let's do who's back. And then we'll get to Jason McCordy. Then we'll get to Hank, Hijink, Jacking, Mount Rushmore Season and making his own team. And before we do that, a quick word from our friends at Visible.
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Starting point is 00:24:03 My who's back was Max. I also, so that was my who's back the week. The 62 on Friday, bogey-free golf. Obviously, he didn't win. I've come close. Big time players. Big time players making big time plays. It's big.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's huge. And then my who's back, Reality TV, PMT YouTube, just YouTube in general. We're 2,000 people away from 400,000 on YouTube. We put out the Mount Rushmore Everest video. I don't think we talked about that on here. And we have a whole disc golf series coming out. Yeah, I actually, so I usually don't go back and watch
Starting point is 00:24:34 the videos that we've made, because I'll see like the highlights and stuff in the clips that we get made. But I was very curious to see what the Mount Rushmore equivalent, how that turned out. So I watched most of it. It's just as intense as I remember. I can't believe we didn't die out there. I would say that if you're scared of heights, if you're
Starting point is 00:24:50 someone who gets queasy easily, don't watch that video. Just let it play so that we get the actual views. What an accomplishment. Another round of applause for Ross. Great job. Also the scene where Billy started talking about how dogs can't run long distances. Which is true.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And it immediately gets countered with what about the Iditarod Billy. Billy coming across as I think I said it in the video, he's the jock Dwight Shrut. The entire time is just great for everyone else to see. You guys would have got lost out there. Billy, you guys didn't read the trails. I love how you still don't acknowledge the fact that the
Starting point is 00:25:23 Iditarod is a race that only dogs can accomplish. Right. Right. Yeah, exactly. Just read the book Born to Run. It's about running. You read the whole book? I read the whole book.
Starting point is 00:25:32 The whole book. It was a really good book. And does it say that the Iditarod does not exist? Humans can outrun horses in long distances. It's a thing. Trust me. OK. What about that Diablo movie where the horses race
Starting point is 00:25:45 across the desert? Yeah, what about that movie? Horse Marathons. OK. Wait, they're horse marathons? Are they fish slower than humans? Yep. That's tough to believe.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Imagine what a fucking horse is. 26.2 miles on horse. Not the fastest humans, like the average human. No, not an average human. You're not talking about the average horses, then. Right. Humans were able to run farther distance over time, and that's why they became the apex predators.
Starting point is 00:26:11 But dogs can run the Iditarod, and humans can't. Yeah, thumbs helped a lot, too. I'm not going to be able to explain this to you guys. Also, our brains had something to do with it, probably. Weapons, the wheel. Fire. We invented fire. There's a bunch of stuff we did.
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Starting point is 00:26:38 and he's been eating cheese. He ate cheese steak all week, so hopefully he wins. OK, PFT. I got a couple of them. My first who's back of the week is Tom Brady. Yeah. Tom Brady's back. Sorry, Bill, you can go ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:50 All I just want to say is I think Tom Brady. Looks great. Yeah. Thank you, Hank. Thank you for bringing that up. Looks young. I think he looks just crazy young. I think he looks like abnormally young right now.
Starting point is 00:27:01 He looks so young he could be, maybe, on Real Housewives of Picca City. It's kind of wild that he took the last couple weeks off with a mystery absence. And then he came back, and his face just looks real young. No, dude, don't worry. He had a deviated septum. So he got that fixed because of breathing.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh, OK. He's probably also been drinking a lot of water. I know that helps you look 15 years younger at times. So young. Really young. Incredibly young. Spry. The quote was, when asked what's going on, he said,
Starting point is 00:27:30 I'm 45. A lot of shit going on. I actually, I'm going to defend him on that. Like, the older you get, there's just shit going on. I think that's just like, until you retire, you just have shit going on where it's like, yeah, I got to go deal with some. Like, if I had like four days off where I could just
Starting point is 00:27:46 break from everything, I could get a lot. There's a lot of shit I could do that I've been neglected. And I'm sure, like, you know, Giselle is probably like, come on, we got shit going on. You don't have to go to training camp. You're fucking Tom Brady. He's like, yeah, you're kind of right. I can probably not.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Giselle was like, yeah, like, Tom, we need you at home. And also, your eyebrows need to be redone. And also, like, your face moves too much and shows too much emotion when you think and talk. So maybe we could do something about that. Yeah, right. So that he's got a great poker face, though. No one's going to know if it's true.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah. If he's going for it, if he's faking the hard count or what. Yeah, it's on jealous. But that's all right. I honestly, really, honestly, yes, Hank, you got me. I am jealous of Tom Brady. He's the best football player of all time. He's married to a supermodel and he's got like $700 million.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I will be the first person to wait and not age. Yeah, somehow credible. It's all incredible. Ponce tell you, I do agree that he a lot of shit going on. Like I felt that when he said that. I'm going to be honest. I think he looks gaunt, like the definition of the word gaunt. OK, OK.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It's the only way. We'll put that in the log. Yep, gaunt. He's gaunted. Yeah, G-A-U-N-T. Yeah, we know. Got it. Yep, got it.
Starting point is 00:28:59 He's gaunt. My other who's back in the week is French soccer because they're already imploding before the World Cup, which gives Italy a nice little window. They're their main competition over in Europe. And every year, every four years in the World Cup, France just like they get into this mode where they hate each other right when the World Cup training
Starting point is 00:29:17 starts. And you have players that are like sleeping with each other's girlfriends trying to stab each other. And they just win. France? Yeah. Yeah, that was four years ago. 18.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah. But Paul Pogba, one of their stars, is now accusing his, I think, his two brothers and a giant gang of extorting him and holding him hostage and trying to get like $15 million out of him for providing protection for him for the last like seven years. So it's a fucked up situation. They said that he says that one of his brothers hired a witch
Starting point is 00:29:48 doctor to put a curse on him, which this is not bode well for France. I'll try. I think that's what they call themselves, right? I don't know. The red, white, and blue. I don't know. Whatever they are, they're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:29:59 That's my prediction. I assume you do know when you're saying it is a joke. No, I think it's I'll try. I know that they're the roosters. They have to lose her. I'm going to have a hard time getting into the World Cup this year. Oh, I'm in.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I'm in already. But I'm officially putting France is a no bet for me this World Cup. That's I agree with you on that. Yeah, it's absolutely true. All right, I have a couple who's back. Love is back. Conor McGregor posted Instagram story today of his wife
Starting point is 00:30:27 giving him head on his boat. Oh, that's sick. Like Pam and Tommy. Yeah, it was really nice. So no, no actual nudity. But I mean, it was very clear what was going on. And it was the top of her head and the views of the of the boat. I don't.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Yeah, I don't know why he did that. I think he just was like, I haven't trended in a while. Wait, wait, was the boat moving? Was the motor on? It was it was docked and he was just like getting the views and then a little bit of her head. And like there was a moment where you could see his legs were spread out.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So yeah, I love that. I love that. Yeah, like it's a consenting couple. They're deeply in love. We need to normalize that sort of thing. Yeah, it was good. Maybe he was just doing an accidental close friends that he posted on the main story.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, yeah. I really do think he's like, hey, honey, like I haven't no one's been talking about me recently. Can we just he just give me some head and I'll just get the top of your head real quick. Or even I think it would actually be worse if she wasn't giving him head and he was like, can you just act like you're giving him head
Starting point is 00:31:23 so I can put this video out here? Yes, yes. Also in boat news, James Harden throwing a cake off the boat was fucking hilarious. I don't know if you guys saw that, but he got a birthday cake and he just tossed it right off the boat. So I think the Sixers might be back. That's it.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Did he hit the water? I think Ben Simmons would have missed. Yeah, Ben Simmons would have missed. The little baby also gave him a quarter million dollars. I did see that, which that it reminds me of like that scene from Donnie Brasco when they just give each other money for Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And then he asked him back for like, he's like, hey, can I get some money back? It's got to be really cool when you have rich friends. You're like, I'm just going to give you a quarter million. And then hopefully when my birthday comes around, you give me half a million. So if you get if you're James Harden wealthy and you get $250,000, do you like take it seriously?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Do you go to your stash or do you spend it that night? No, it's basically a little baby being like, let's go out. Yeah, he's like, I want to spend $250,000 tonight. Can I just give it to you? And get credit for a birthday present. And then you get to give it. And then I'm also the hero that gave you $250,000.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Correct. Did I tell you about this time? Smart move. Have I said this on the show when I saw a little baby? Is this next to insurance? No, in Atlanta. I did do that, though. He couldn't pee next to me.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But in Atlanta for the Super Bowl, we were driving down the street that had all these different strip clubs on either side, bars on either side. And a fucking helicopter lands in the parking lot of the strip club. I'm talking like a helicopter is landing in a parking lot from the sky.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And then all these people get out. And it's like a camera, a lighting crew, and a microphone guy. And then another guy holding a blinking sign that says, little baby. Love it. And then little baby gets out of the helicopter. And he just walks into the strip club.
Starting point is 00:32:59 It's a great way to enter. It was pretty cool. Bad ass. And then my other last who's back is a foul ball guy. He's back. He's got the internet all upset. For what? He posted a video.
Starting point is 00:33:09 The ushers at Coors Field told him that he couldn't get out of his seat. And he had a little back and forth. And then obviously everyone, being losers that they are online, said that foul ball guy is the worst. And they defended the ushers. Foul ball guy is not the worst. He's actually the greatest foul ball guy,
Starting point is 00:33:26 catcher of all time. And then I did like someone was like, dude, you probably didn't play baseball. And he's like, I've actually batted 7.24 my senior year. So don't call. So like, does that apply to everyone? No one can get out of their seats. That was his point.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He was like, you're clearly making this rule for just me. And it was just him because they can't keep him down. How about maybe get better foul ball or home run catchers to compete with him? Why are we calling him foul ball guy still? He's home run guy. I haven't seen him catch a foul. He forgot his roots a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:56 No, he did actually just catch an e-trio, like commemorative ball tonight. In foul territory. Yeah, foul territory. Fucking bad ass. Wait, was it catch balls everywhere? Was it close to the foul pool? No, it looked like it was kind of.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Well, he goes to different places. He's got a pregame routine. He gets everything. I would like to see him either get back to his roots a little bit and catch a foul ball every once in a while. I think he's just ball guy. Oh, yeah, he's just ball guy or home run guy, which is fine. He's the greatest home run guy to ever do it.
Starting point is 00:34:22 He's the greatest at everything. Yeah, so I did see him trending on that. And people were mad. Some people were saying that he was running over people to get the balls. That's always a myth. And he does not run over people. You just have to be faster.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, that's just simple. OK, if you get run over, that's your own like terrible athleticism. Maybe lose some weight, get out of his way. I also like the tweet that he put out where it was just like pictures of him. Yeah, like hanging out with kids. He's a pi piper.
Starting point is 00:34:50 He's signing foul balls. No, yeah, he's the pi piper of baseballs. Yeah, just get get in line. You'll you'll get a ball. All right, Billy, your who's back. So in the spirit of Jake's firefest week, no, we didn't cover all my who's backs, but a lot of them. So I was looking for new who's backs as we covered all
Starting point is 00:35:06 my who's backs and was on Twitter. Guess what's back? Game of Thrones spoilers because they're just live on Twitter. So you got to stay off Twitter when Game of Thrones is there. OK, that's why I really don't. So I I didn't want the original Game of Thrones. I watched all the seasons up until the last season, like before, you know, like I was late to it.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I get the spoiler thing, but like it's Game of Thrones. Like everyone's going to die. Your favorite character is going to die. Spoiler. And since this is a prequel, we already know what happens after this. Anyways, you know what I mean? Like it sucks.
Starting point is 00:35:40 It sucks to get spoiled. But it's also one of those shows that, like, you know, everyone's going to die because that's what they do. Yeah, just kill. They make you love someone, then they kill them. Yeah, the person that you love the most will die. Will die politically. The person that you hate the most will have sex
Starting point is 00:35:55 with her sibling and then die and then die. Yeah, maybe while you start to love them. Yes, because you're like, oh, that's the new king. When they, yeah, when they realize the error of their wicked ways from before. Like actually, I kind of like this guy down dead. And then once you find yourself going, like, I don't know, 30 minutes without somebody dying,
Starting point is 00:36:12 then everybody's going to die. Great show though. Buy a dragon. Buy a dragon. Great show though. But yeah, everyone's going to die. Also back with that is George Martin is doing like press interviews, and he's talking about how he wants
Starting point is 00:36:23 to do all this different stuff in the Game of Thrones world. And everyone just gets mad because it's like finish. Because like finish the book. Yeah, finish the book. Also, what's his name? George R.R. Martin? Yeah. He's like a massive Jets fan too.
Starting point is 00:36:34 George R.R. Martin, come on, part of my take to discuss everything you have going on and mostly the Jets. Yes, agreed. And my other who's back is Milf's. Young Gravy was at the VMA's carpet and Kiss Azen's Ray's mom, which is great because we had these Milf shirts on sale in the Barstool store. And they say, man, I love football.
Starting point is 00:36:52 That's great. And as the Milf guy at Barstool, it's a great shirt. It's a great shirt. We have a Zach Wilson edition as well. Check it out in the Barstool store. Nice. How's your boy Mincey going? Not good.
Starting point is 00:37:03 OK. Jake. My who's back is Hawaii. Little big World Series champions for the fourth time. Talking about football. Did you see how bad they got beat? Yeah, in football. But I mean, they're playing SEC.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That was a really tough. I was at a bachelor party, so I went to sleep early on Saturday because I got back home. Oh, breaking moves. What do we got here? Sitting down in PFT. Yeah? Cowboys are releasing Ben D'Nucci.
Starting point is 00:37:30 That's fine. They're giving more time to catch on somewhere else. Gucci D'Nucci, JMU legend. Back at QB job between Cooper Rush and Will Greer. Oh, Will Greer. Yeah. Yeah. Will Greer.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah, Ben D'Nucci's going to be fine, man. Like, you saw that interception that he had when he got to start that game. The sidearm off-platform throw. It was sick. It was an amazing throw. Just a better play by the defender. He was also halfway standing out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But Hawaii, yeah. That was so I went to sleep early because I got back and I was like, I got to sleep. And I had Hawaii plus like eight, and that was a tough score to wake up to. 63-10. They were up 7-0 too. Yeah, but they won the Little League World Series.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah, I don't care about that. They outscored a point in 60 to five in six games. So they're representing the United States. Yes. In the Little League. OK. They won. They won the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You beat Kersa. Oh, it's over. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fuck you, world. USA, baby. I love it. They won Mercy role.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Walk off Mercy. Oh, that's so embarrassing. So they're bad for a Little League World Series. 60 to five in six games, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, now you know what? I love that team. Go USA.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I wish they could play football. Like, I wish the Hawaii Little League team feels like they could have covered a spread against Vanderbilt. Yeah, it's like that debate again. Just by the dominance that you've told me, I bet you they have some kids that are probably big kids. Island boys.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah, they could fuck someone up. Is that your only who's back? Oh, my only one that hasn't been taken. Oh, what else got taken? You had Conor McGregor getting ahead? No. I had Zach Campbell. I had Rory McElroy.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And I had mascots. Oh, wow. A lot happened this weekend. Yeah. By the way, I'm just laughing internally, imagining the conversations that Billy's having with Ben Mentz, teaching him how to keep his job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Like, teaching him how to, like, really, now you've got to buckle down, Ben. You've got to be, like, post the Monday morning time to go to work, tweet at, like, 11.30. It's only go to the Friday White Spirit Panic Show. Don't go to the Saturday one. College football's on. That kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Some big time coaching. Buy the mill shirts if you like, Ben. OK, there we go. There we go. All right, let's get to our interview with Jason McCordy in studio. It's brought to you by our friends at Game Time. Game Time is the exclusive ticketing partner
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Starting point is 00:40:49 Woo! OK, we now welcome on very special guest, Super Bowl champion, also a new host of NFL Network's Emmy Award-winning Good Morning Football, which airs Monday through Friday at 7 AM on the NFL Network. It is Jason McCordy. Thank you for joining us. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:41:09 Appreciate you guys for having me. Every time they say, like, Emmy Award-winning show, I'm like, well, I wasn't a part of the Emmy. So it's just like, but I'll take it. It's like you also get to retroactively claim all the Patriots Super Bowl ranks because you were part of their runs. So it's like, yeah, you're involved in that.
Starting point is 00:41:23 No doubt about it. When you just as Super Bowl champion, people don't know whether I'm my brother and I won three of them or I just got a chance to win one. So I'm not going to correct him. Well, you guys share all your socials. So shouldn't you? Aren't you four?
Starting point is 00:41:34 Don't you have four? Until now. Now I have my own Twitter. You did. At Jason McCordy. Thank you for the free pub. So there we go. There we go.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So did you let him take over the old account? Or did he have to start a new one himself too? No, we're keeping it right now. Just McCordy twins. But like we're still up in the air. Like there might be a space where we still need the McCordy twins one. But I think he got tired of me that first week
Starting point is 00:41:56 on good morning football. I'm talking about stuff all over the NFL. And he's getting mentioned. And I may have to go in there and talk about how bad he plays in one of these games. He may not want it. Yeah. I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I always thought it was a psycho move that you guys shared all social. Like what? I mean, that's what if he tweets something you don't agree with. He knows not to do that. OK. But that's actually a perfect.
Starting point is 00:42:17 You got a scapegoat right there. No doubt about it. Like if you tweet something bad, you can be like, oh, that was my brother. No doubt about it. We're both married. So we didn't really have to go down that path. But if we weren't, like you could be sliding into DMs
Starting point is 00:42:27 and all type of stuff. Yeah. And just blaming on your brother. That's actually perfect. I've been fascinated with twins in a weird way for a while. So pause. But when you guys went to college, you went to school together.
Starting point is 00:42:40 You guys had always, you know, you grew up together, played football together. You've been very, very close as brothers. And then you graduate from college. You go to the NFL. And all of a sudden, you guys are in different cities for the first time. What's that like as an identical twin?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Like having to form your own identity outside of being a twin for like the first time in your life as an adult? Yeah. For us, we talked all the time, I think, especially as unique because we're in the same profession. So our conversations are always about either family, football, and those things.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And I think at that point, the toughest decision was in college, we shared sneakers. You couldn't afford to each buy the new pair of Jordans coming out. So we had to decide. I mean, obviously, I was the one going into the league. So he kept all the shoes. I had to rebuy stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But I think the identity part, like for those close to us, people have been around us. They can tell, like, all right, this is more of a Devon thing to say, more of a Jason thing. We're very similar, but completely different in certain things. So I think that part was just normal to us. Going, making friends, the whole nine.
Starting point is 00:43:39 But we had to get used to, all right, you don't have your brother there to lean on to ask this question. Or in conversation, he doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about when I'm talking about stuff with the Titans. But it was awesome. I think I gave him a head start for that next year. I mean, I went at the bottom of the sixth round.
Starting point is 00:43:54 This guy goes at the bottom of the first. Yeah, you gave him, you absolutely helped him out. Did he give you a little taste? He let the beak on that? Didn't give me no money. He goes to the Pro Bowls rookie year. It makes me pay for my own flight and hotel. So I'm still waiting for, like, a 500K chat.
Starting point is 00:44:09 He's the cheap one. Yeah, I have a little more messed up twin question. And this could be the last one question. But I do have a theory that identical twins, they all have at least tried to kiss each other on the lips just because, like, why wouldn't you? That's your, like, he's hot. Like, if you think you're attractive,
Starting point is 00:44:26 then your twin has to be attractive, right? I got to assume that's probably more of like a white guy twin thing. OK, all right. A white guy twin thing. Nice, you can pull the race card on me. That's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'll own it. I can say we've never went down that path. All right, so the move to this thing is just a mess. Our studio is a mess, but this keeps falling off. So I lose my headphones over and over. So your career and you know, six-rounder have a long career. Most six-rounders don't make it. Like, that's just a fact, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:00 So you're now transitioning to the media. Has it been hard to be like, I got to start criticizing all these guys? You know how hard it is to stay in the league. You know how difficult of a league it is. Have you found yourself like, how am I going to criticize? How am I going to nitpick knowing how difficult this whole profession is?
Starting point is 00:45:20 I wouldn't say hard, but you definitely think it through. How you want to say it. And I think the main thing for me is having the supporting facts. Like, if a guy goes out there, I'm friends with Jacobi Berset. Good friends. If Jacobi goes out there on a Sunday and throws three interceptions, like,
Starting point is 00:45:35 I have to say something about it. There's no way I can say Jacobi played a great game. It's just the receivers all ran the wrong route. So I think it's understanding how you do it. I'm not going to say, oh, yeah, this guy sucks. But hey, he had a rough day out there today. You can see on this throw and that throw, hey, this guy's clearly open.
Starting point is 00:45:50 He's a little greedy. And this is what happens when you're greedy. So I think it's the way you go about it and how you do it. And you're not particularly calling somebody out, but you are calling out the performance and how they play it. Now, have you found yourself doing hot takes yet? Because I feel like that happens with every media guy who is a former pro.
Starting point is 00:46:08 They're like, I'm not going to just do hot takes because I know the nuances of the game. And then you get that first hot takeoff and it's addicting. Like what you just described, we would just be like, Jacobi Berset's a bum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And it's addicting.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I have it. And I'm trying to be self-aware about it so that I don't do that. That's the one thing I don't want to do. I'm like, hey, like 13 years in a league, I've had a great career now transitioning to the media like, hey, just let it happen organically. If you're meant to be skyrocketed one of the best,
Starting point is 00:46:39 that's awesome. You may just be a mediocre guy. Don't just go out there and try to say stuff to see what sticks. OK, well, I can't wait to see you do your first hot take. On the other hand, you can just go out there and say, I think the game has passed Bill Belichick by. Yeah. And it's time for him to hang him up.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They don't make the playoffs this year. You admit like Bill Belichick's on the hot seat, right? Well, if I say that, then they better go out there and suck. I can't say that. And then they go back to the AFC championship game in a while. I'm always suspicious about you former Patriots players, because I think you'll get out there and you'll say, like, the game has passed Belichick by,
Starting point is 00:47:09 knowing that Bill is going to read that and he's going to be really good this year. And then he's going to thank you for giving him some bulletin board material. And this is how the Patriot way just recycles over and over and over again until it's like 2050 and he's won 23 Super Bowl. No.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So if I go out there and I say some outlandish stuff about the Patriots, I'm going to go up to a game or something, go to see my brother play. I'm going to run into Bill. And he's going to be like, I mean, I ain't Jamie. I mean, would you just shut the hell up? Like you're not in the building anymore. You don't know what's going on here.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Just shut up. Nobody wants like that's going to be the response. He's not going to say like, hey, thanks. Thanks for that motivation. I needed that kick in the butt. He doesn't want to hear it. Well, you just said something and we'll give you a little media training right now.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Because we've been in the biz for a long time. You're like, if I say something, it better be right. It doesn't have to be right. It doesn't. No one ever cares. Most of you guys are wrong. No one ever cares. No one ever is like, hey, remember that time, Jason McCordy? No, no, no, they don't care. No one, no one ever like keeps track of the wrong things.
Starting point is 00:48:10 So you can just say shit and no one will fucking care. It's almost better if you're wrong. Yeah, like to tell you the truth. More popular. Yeah. Bayless, he's made a career. I'm saying that LeBron James Sox and Tim Tebow is awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:22 And he's the most popular dude in sports media, right? And nobody will ever say like they'll tell him that he's wrong, but it doesn't matter because they keep talking about it. They're still watching. They're still watching. Exactly. So we're wrong. We like to be wrong like six times a week, like very lot. Also, another thing that we do on this show,
Starting point is 00:48:36 we just like admit our biases. Like how you said, like, yeah, it'll be tough to call Jacobi out. Like we will tell you right now that Blake Bortles is a Super Bowl champion caliber quarterback at any team in the league that far because we love Blake. And so we admit our biases up front, which is important. That is because you'll see guys in media like they'll they'll be biased and then they'll be like, but I'm not being biased.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's like, dude, yeah, you are like, it's OK. Everyone has friends. Everyone has people that they're close with. So just say that outright and then they can't do anything. No doubt about it. I mean, I look at my career like I always want to be able to walk in the building in New England. I want to be able to go visit the Titans.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I want to be able to go visit the Dolphins because who doesn't want to go to Miami? So when I talk bad about them, it's going to be in a certain way. But I'm not going to bash them. I played in Cleveland for a year. So you just you're not going there. I don't I don't I don't plan. Well, I had a question about that.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I mean, it's it's one of the most remarkable things to go from an 0 and 16 team to winning a Super Bowl the next year. Like I what the fuck was that like? That has to be that has to be the crate. Like, did you have to win the Super Bowl? Like, holy shit, I literally played an entire season without winning a game. And now I'm holding the Lombardi trophy. We laughed about it in New England.
Starting point is 00:49:49 We play Houston, the first game that I'm there that first season. And we win the game normal game first game of the season. Deshaun Watson, I think, was coming back off a ACL injury. They didn't perform well. We kind of beat up on them. I play five plays in that game and I'm running in the locker room screaming like cheering in the locker room loud. And everybody, I think, enjoyed that because here is I'm a guy. I haven't won a game since the 2016 season when I was still at Tennessee Titan.
Starting point is 00:50:17 If you if you don't count the four preseason games we won in Cleveland. But other than that, I was fired up just to win a game. So I think for me, that season was definitely surreal. Even throughout my career, I never won double digit win double digit wins in a season. Did that in New England? Never won my division. Did that in New England?
Starting point is 00:50:36 So I think for me, I was kind of like the poster child of life. See if you can't take it for granted because look at Jason over there. Right. It's the first time he's experienced these things. So now it was it was definitely surreal. So I I listened to Joe Thomas do a podcast. I think it was with our friend, Rosillo, and he was talking about that O and 16 season and like the mental wear that it has on everyone. Yeah, I remember. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Like what every week was there a point in the season where it was like, I just can't like, I know I have to do a job. I have to get up for this. But it has to just like basically wear you down to a point where like, are we are we even worthy of this? Like this is how did how did that go down? I remember Joe T explained it defining insanity, doing the same thing over and over again. But expecting different results.
Starting point is 00:51:25 And that's kind of where we're in almost like a time trap of like each week. You go out there Wednesday, you do first and second down Thursday. You do third after. So the same thing. And we were still getting the same exact result every Sunday. Loss after loss after loss. And it's definitely tough. I can remember I still had a YouTube video saved.
Starting point is 00:51:43 It was like a motivational YouTube video. I put it on every morning on my car ride to work because it was just like, yo, how am I going to get through today? It was not only there was just so much going on in the building in Cleveland that year, when you go on 16, like that's tough to do. It hasn't been done many times in the NFL. So there's a lot of things going wrong beyond just like not having good players. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:04 So it was definitely lying. It was definitely a tough moment throughout my career. Did you have to find yourself like, I don't know, just like after the season being over, like figure out a way to like boost yourself back up. Was it that low? Because like I said, when I listened to him talk about it, it sounded it's the side that we don't realize because we obviously make fun of an O and 16. We have the jokes, but these guys are all pros.
Starting point is 00:52:27 They're all humans. And every single week, like your confidence has to probably evaporate by the end of the season. Yeah. So for me, I just got released by Tennessee before I joined Cleveland after eight seasons and I actually had one of my better seasons in Cleveland individually and guys may not want to admit it, but the truth of the matter when you're losing that many games, you start to become selfish.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah. Yo, this team's going to blow up. They're not bringing us all back. Like we haven't won a single game. I bet a Dan will make sure like my performance on the field is going to warrant another team wanting me. So when the season ended for me, it was kind of like, all right, where can I end up? Right.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I don't want to come back to like, I don't want to do this again. So hey, what are the opportunities going to be? And I mean, luckily for me, end up going to the right team at the right time when it's Super Bowl. It's just got to be about self preservation at that point. It's like, don't get it. You don't want to get injured that year, right? You don't want to be the hurt guy in an O and 16 team, because then you might be
Starting point is 00:53:20 in trouble next free agency. But so you mentioned Tennessee. You wanted to come back in the building in Tennessee. You want to be welcome there. A quick question about your career and it's most specifically one incident. Cortland Finnegan, I knew that was coming. I just want to know what the film study was like the week after Cortland Finnegan got his ass beat by Andre Johnson.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Did you guys like watch that on the coaches clicker? No, no, it got cut off. They don't they don't they don't think they recorded the whole fight. But, you know, that that whole like the buildup and everything surrounding that was insane. So my rookie year I get there and I think Dre drags and it's funny because I end up playing with Andre in Tennessee, but he drags Cortland down by his helmet off on Houston sideline.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And like Cortland like gets jumped on Houston sideline. We had a defense alignment. Jason Jones get kicked at it. It was almost like a brawl within the game. Then we played them on Monday night that same season. Cortland like karate chops Andre at the bottom of a pile on the play. So like this thing had been brewing, brewing and you got to if you know Cortland, you understand seven round guy from Sanford.
Starting point is 00:54:27 He came in and like his mindset was like I'm a smaller guy. Like I can't compete with talent wise with some of these receivers. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to get in her head all game. And when he would go against Dre, his mindset was like he's going to have to get kicked out of the game. So when everything happens that day and Dre throws those punches, you can see Cortland is clapping in his face because in Cortland's mind, Dre just got kicked out of the game.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Right. Because at that point, Cortland didn't do anything to warn him getting kicked out of the game. He ripped off his Dre, ripped his helmet off. So he ripped Dre's helmet off and then they both get kicked out. So I remember walking in the locker map that I game and we played Houston in two weeks. Cortland goes up to me and out around Werner because it was me and
Starting point is 00:55:09 Cortland was a starter and it was us three. He goes, fellas, like get ready. Like first play of the game in two weeks, like I'm out. Like we're fighting. There's no way I'm not fast forward to those two weeks. We're playing Houston at home in Nashville. Merton Hanks, who handles the fines and different stuff in the league at the time is at the game in the flesh.
Starting point is 00:55:29 We're out there warming up just like the t-shirts and hoodies on, not the pregame stuff comes over, pulls Cortland aside, lets him know like, Hey, if, if anything happens today, it's going to be a hefty fine. Cortland comes back like, well, fellas, I'll be playing today. So it was, it was one of those things where it was just like you felt for him because he never got his chance for that get back. But man, that, that battle between those two was brewing for years before it kind of spilled over at that point.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah. So, so talk like playing defense, the NFL, you kind of have your career spanned all the rule changes and everything. Is it overstated how hard it is to play defense now? Or is that accurate? How everyone's like, look, cornerbacks, defensive backs, they just have no chance or even defense alignment, trying to hit the quarterback. They have no chance. Do you feel that?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Like, could you feel the change where it's like, this is just becoming clearly the league wants scoring. This is becoming almost impossible for us to do our job. Oh, it's extremely hard. I mean, think about it for a guy rushing the passer, you're not allowed to hit the quarterback below the knees, even when he has the ball. Right. So if you're rushing, you end up on the ground, you have to wait and get up to then try to tackle the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Like that just sounds crazy to try to do something like that. And for the DBS this year, it's a point of emphasis, emphasis to call illegal contact when you pass five yards is hard enough to cover a guy. Now we're just going to make it even harder. Because whenever it's a point of emphasis in the league, it's just like expect to see a ton of flags come out whenever you touch a guy, but you'll watch a receiver push off and do all types of things. So definitely not overstated playing defense.
Starting point is 00:57:06 That's why corners get paid so much. Yeah, I've always said that cornerback is the hardest position to play in football. Corner and left tack, physically the hardest position to play in football. Yeah. So what was it about cornerback that made you want to play it? I have to assume that most kids grown up, they want to be running back. They want to be wide received. They want to be quarterback. Why did you decide to play defense?
Starting point is 00:57:24 Yeah, I was I was a really good high school running back, not far from here in North Jersey. I was one hundred and fifty five pounds when I went into college. I don't think I was picking up a middle linebacker on on a blitz at the running back position. So I was good at cornerback. And after 13 years, it paid well. So I have no problem. You build a certain level of mental toughness playing corner.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Right. Yeah, they're going to be guys that beat you. So I definitely enjoyed it. And just that challenge of knowing like weekend and week out, you're going against the best athlete on the island by yourself and you got to perform. I also assume you just can't catch. I'm not that great. Yeah. Yeah, I think 18 career interceptions and I probably dropped more. So I'm a cornerback drops a ball or just like, well, he's a cornerback for a reason.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Receivers that can't catch. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. We're going to get back to Jason Kordy in a second. But before we do, he is being brought to you by our great friends over at Coors Light. I was drinking some Coors Light this weekend. The mountains were blue. Billy knows Billy was on the beach. We house some Coors Light.
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Starting point is 00:59:47 Or even if it wasn't like a guy that we all know is a superstar, but a guy who always just gave you fits where something he did. Like, is it harder to guard, let me ask this way, is it harder to guard the guy who's just faster than everyone? Or is it harder to guard a guy who has that wiggle like a Julian Edelman who's, you know, making cuts in the middle of the field? Yeah. Speed is the toughest thing to cover to me by far. You can have a really good receiver if he can't run.
Starting point is 01:00:13 The one thing I'm going to say is, all right, like I don't have to, I can take my time a little bit, but that's not to discredit. Like going against, especially you mentioned Jules, like Jules was tough to cover not only because of his wiggle and his physical ability, but Jules was a monster on the field. Like you didn't know whether it was going to be a run play. He was going to fire off the line of scrimmage and just headbutt you to block you or whether he was going to be tired that one play
Starting point is 01:00:36 and just kind of like put a hand up and let you run to the ball. You just never knew what to expect from him. But Jules was just so damn tough just as a person that he was hard. But there was a guy Brandon Lloyd that used to play in Denver and Buddy could just torque his body any which way to catch a football that nobody talks about and was a really good receiver. But like Calvin Johnson was a guy that, I mean, literally looked like a tight end when you were watching film.
Starting point is 01:01:04 When you play at Calvin Johnson, are you in your mind being like, all right, if he goes like 100 for a touchdown, that's a successful day for me. Like because it's weird to play against a guy like that. Knowing that no matter what you do, the best you can possibly be, he's still going to get it. It would be a successful day for us because we're going to double team him every play that that simple. It's funny because I will watch my with my brother being in the wing.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I will watch their game plans against certain guys. And the year Revis was there, Revis never covered Calvin Johnson when they played him in the game. They put Brandon Browner on him and put the safety over the top. And whoever the next best receiver was was just like, all right, Revis, you just go cover him all by yourself. And I got a chance to go there with Stefan Gilmore and there will be times where we would do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Gilly would be on the best guy. But whenever we want to double team him, Gilmore would go away from him. And for me, it was like a resurgence of my career. Like, oh, yeah, I'll I'll go to the double team. Yeah, right. God, Gilly, you go over there and earn all the money and do the tough matches. Yeah, go ahead. I was just going to ask about Belichick and Rutgers
Starting point is 01:02:06 because he seems to have he seems to be real pervert for Rutgers. He knows where the talent is. He absolutely loves. He cannot get enough Rutgers in his building. So, you know, whether it's certain players that went there, you, your brother went there. He loves coaches that have spent time at Rutgers. What is it about Rutgers that makes Bill Belichick just like perk his ears up?
Starting point is 01:02:23 I mean, I think for him, when you're searching for that that diamond in the rough, you can go there. I mean, you look at a Devon McCordy, a Deron Harman, a Logan Ryan. I mean, the list just a Devon McCordy. Yes, a player of that caliber. But I think even like so Steve Belichick played lacrosse at Rutgers. And I think when Bill would go there, he got a chance to know Coach Hienel, who was at Rutgers while we were there.
Starting point is 01:02:46 And I think just mindset wise, both of those guys are very similar. Old school, tough nose guys. So I think he looked at it when I get a player coming from this program, coached by this coaching staff, I know exactly what I'm going to get. And I know they can handle what I'm going to throw at them. I think that's why he's done it. You're like more ready for his system, his certain things that are in common. Are you a Shiano man?
Starting point is 01:03:08 Yeah, I was there with Shiano all four. He's Shiano's batshit crazy. Ton of respect for him because he gets the job done. He knows what the team needs. And it was funny because, like you said, guys are prepared for it. So I get drafted first. I go to Tennessee with Coach Jeff Fisher, who's opposite of those guys. Players coach like Fish is going to let you come in at 11 in the morning
Starting point is 01:03:28 after a long trip, sleep in, whatever. And I'm telling Dev all about the league. Like I'm telling you, bro, like so much more laid back. We barely we barely wear full pads in practice. Like this thing is awesome. And he gets drafted by New England. He was like, what the hell are you talking about? Like this is just like being back at Rutgers.
Starting point is 01:03:46 How sick was the famous USF game? Because that was like when you think Rutgers football, I don't know if it's a bad thing or a good thing. But like it's good for us. We were good for it. But, you know, it's only one game in a while in the last 20 years. But James Gandolfini there. USF is what?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Number two in the country comes to Piscataway. You guys win like that. That was an all time game. I remember it so vividly. Yeah, we had a few of them. We had that one where they were two in the country. And then we beat Louisville when they were ranked really high. Our kicker like pointed at the cameras.
Starting point is 01:04:19 One of those Thursday night games. Yeah. If somebody knows Rutgers, like that's what they remember. Pandemonium in Piscataway. And I got a chance to play with Harry Douglas, who was at Louisville at the time. And he's still mad at me to this day because he felt like that was his that was their chance. That was their year. Brian Brom, him, they had a ton of guys.
Starting point is 01:04:37 But like, yes, to your point, like those games and those like two seasons. Yeah, that's what Rutgers is known for. And hopefully now it's kind of like we've moved to the opposite end of it. We're losing games by 50. But want to rise. Yeah, it's channels back. It's got to be tough. Like, are you do you think like, oh, I wish I played in the Big Ten or, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:57 like, because obviously it's tough. It's very tough. Rutgers has had a tough time in the Big Ten, you know, playing against the Ohio States to Michigan's all that. Although they beat Michigan a few years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, is there a part of you that's like, oh, I kind of wish I was playing against these guys and not, you know, the old Big East.
Starting point is 01:05:12 For sure. I mean, I got drafted at the bottom of the sixth round. If I could have been playing against some of the caliber receivers that are in the Big Ten and these big names and all of that, you just get a chance to showcase your talent even more. And I mean, a chance of playing in front of 100,000 people. Like as kids, you grow up watching those games and those stadiums and like the Charles Woodson, the Tom Brady's, all of those players and like getting an
Starting point is 01:05:32 opportunity to actually go out there and be a part of that. I would have loved that. I did like, I read one anecdote, the Belichick because you played in, what did you play in one bowl game, two bowl games in your career at Rutgers? Oh, four, four. Are you played all four? Okay, there you go. So he, he calls them pizza bowls, though, because he's like their trash bowls.
Starting point is 01:05:49 We played in the Papa John's bowl, too. He just calls it any bowl. It's perfect. Any bowl that's not like the Rose Bowl or it's not the BCS. It's just a pizza bowl to him. Yeah. And I, I, it's hard to, already we played the Papa John's bowl, the international bowl, the Texas bowl and the insight bowl.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Like, nobody knows where those are located. Like, I just like calling them all pizza. 100%. Some people call them toilet bowl games. Like, pick, pick your name. If you can gamble on it, it's still a bowl game to me. Hey, there you go. I'm watching awful.
Starting point is 01:06:18 I'm an NFL employee. I'm not allowed to gamble. Oh, is that right? Really? Yeah. Okay. If you were, how many teams were you put in a parlay like Calvin Ridley? I have no idea what a parlay is.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Oh, nice. He just winked at us. So smart. So wait, NFL employees aren't allowed to gamble at all. No, that's, that's one of those rules that's definitely going to change like on sports within five years. Horse racing, you can. I believe so.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. All the guys go all the time. Yeah. Right. It's all like coaches in college and NFL, like basketball, football, everything, all of them bet on horses.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Cause that's why I can't do anything else. Yeah. Take advantage of the one you can. All right. So good morning football. You started a few, like five weeks ago. What, um, any like surprises so far of how the show, like, what is it? Is it three hour show?
Starting point is 01:07:02 Yeah, three hours. It is it tiring because I'd imagine like doing three hours live TV. That's, you know, it goes by quicker than you think. Like in the beginning, it felt like I did an audition at the end of June. That felt long, but now I'm just like, nah, like I feel like we're ending out next to, you know, we're in the next hour. So I feel like it's going fast. The toughest thing is I'm up at four 45 each morning.
Starting point is 01:07:23 I like that, that, that's tough. Have you been able to figure out now, like when Kyle Brink gets going, like, oh, he's trying to get a go viral on Twitter with this. Yo, when Kyle gets, I'm always surprised at like what he's allowed to say. I'm just like, nobody's censoring this. Like, like we can actually say this stuff on TV. Like, but it's been impressive. I think, especially as a player, like we'll look at the meeting or just like,
Starting point is 01:07:44 oh yeah, like you guys, you have a nice setup, but like, there's no work. Like you just come in here, like, all right, I'll Google Jason McCordy, throw a few questions out of and then doing it. Like, you realize how much more work goes into a preparing for a show each and every day, having the content, all that goes around and then the behind the scenes of producers and content creators and all of that stuff. I just like, damn, like this is a well oiled machine. I'm happy to be a part of.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And we, I mean, you know, Kyle and Peter Schrager and Jamie Erdal, like super talented. So you're on like a super team when it comes to the show. I'm the rookie. Like they've been doing it for a decade plus. So I'm in there asking them questions. Like, we'll get our emails for the rundown for the show and they'll have like acronyms and stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:25 All right, we got a sock in tomorrow or I need an FS. So I'm the guy in there like, yo, what the hell is a sock? Like, are they lying? They should lie to you about what those different things mean. And just like embarrassed on camera. They haven't. So I don't know if they're listening. So now I may, when the next question comes up, I may get something like that and look like an idiot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah. What was the audition process like for TV? You have to sit down and pretend it's like a weekday in September and then hear the highlights. How's that work? So it's different kind of for all. So I did the broadcast bootcamp through the NFL in April and that was huge because you go to LA at the headquarters of the NFL offices and all of that. And we're there for like three days. You do like a day and a half like rundown of like, what is it like to call
Starting point is 01:09:03 a game on TV, radio, podcast and studio stuff. And they're giving you like information that you can learn and take with you. And then the last day is like a full on live audition. So like we watched a two minute drill of a TV game from the year before and we're actually calling it as if we're there doing the game for radio. We went in studio with like real topics that were going on in the news at the time. And at this thing, there's the NFL Network stuff, their CBS, NBC, Westwood, one. There's all type of people looking for talent.
Starting point is 01:09:33 So that was kind of my main audition. And then from there, ended up doing a draft show for CBS Sports Network and then ended up getting an opportunity. I just went on Good Morning Football. It wasn't like a mock thing. It was like, I just went on for a day in June and whatever the topics where Peter was there, Kyle was there and Sarah Walsh was there from NFL Network. And we just did two shows on a Monday and Tuesday at the bootcamp.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Do they teach you how to apologize? If you say something that you shouldn't. Oh, I love a good media apology. Yeah, no, they didn't. We play it real quick. Yeah. Why would we apologize? Justin Herbert, a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yeah, during a game. You meant to say it was Zach. Yeah. And he said, Justin Herbert, you're like, sorry. He actually did not have sex with me when I'd like to apologize. All right. So three, two, Jason McCordy here. I'm representing part of my take at Barstool Sports. And I just want to apologize. My behavior was inexcusable.
Starting point is 01:10:31 That's those actions will not happen again. I think for myself, I've gone through some self reflection and I realized that those comments can be extremely hurtful. I had to really take into account how they impact others. And words can do a lot of damage. And I promise you guys will see better from me and I will strive each and every day to be the best that I can be. Why? I believe it was great.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Here's a tip, too. Don't ever know tap anything because we will clown you for that. Anyone who does the notes app, it's immediate. Like, dude, are you serious? Like you thought it was so important that you had to put on the notes. For 100 percent, get out of here. Yeah. The notes app is immediate. Like you've lost.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Is it better just to not apologize or do you apologize to keep the job? I like I like the all black background that you use on like Instagram. We're often where it's just like a black or a blue screen and then the white text. With the text. And maybe like a giant quotation mark somewhere to show that it's a quote from you. I always like that. That's a nice touch. Yeah, the notes app that still says like notes on it. And like, yeah, it's the lamest thing you can do.
Starting point is 01:11:33 You automatically lose on that apology. So that's just a little tip. All right, so let's do some hot takes about this season. OK, because football is coming. What what are you like? What is the thought that you're thinking right now about it could be a team, a player, anything that you, you know, this is what you're going to probably stand on going into this season.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Well, I'll start with this. We had Aaron Schatz come on the show and he does the football insiders Almanac and he picked the Eagles. That's right. I have a future on them to go to the Super Bowl this year. Yeah. And I'm I guess cold take. I'm saying I don't see that I don't I don't see that happening. Why why not that I just don't see them. I think I think Hertz is good.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I think he'll take another step. I don't think that step is going to be to the Super Bowl. They made it to the playoffs last year. They got killed by the Bucks in the first round of the playoffs. I mean, it was windy. So it was windy. Well, it may snow this year. So well, no, but it was windy.
Starting point is 01:12:32 I'm just saying Jalen Hertz, it was windy. It was just to defend him real quick. It was windy. It was windy for the Eagles. You can't account for that. Yeah, you can't account for that. That's a first for me. Like, oh, that's it was windy. Blame weather. Blame any type of thing.
Starting point is 01:12:44 It was cold. Yeah. You can always like the New England Buffalo game. Yeah. It was cold. New England. I mean, Buffalo scored on every possession. It's unimaginable to play defense in the cold. Exactly. Is I remember a year where I went to Wisconsin,
Starting point is 01:12:58 they played Ohio State and it was raining. And I was like, I'd like to see Ohio State beat us on normal conditions. Then we played in the Big Ten Championship game. They kicked the shit out of Wisconsin. But I had that for a few months where I was like, yeah, please, man, straight up, regular conditions. Yeah. So you can use that.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Weather's always good to use. Yeah. OK, I have to go on my notes app and make sure I write this down for the future. I like the idea of Philadelphia winning that division because nobody repeats in the NFC East. Yeah. It's been like since 2005, 2004, something like that. So I like, I do agree. Like, I think they make the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:13:31 But I don't think that they're going to be in the Super Bowl. I just, I don't, I don't see. I do think it's going to be the three kind of power teams we've talked about, the Rams, the Packers and the Bucks. I do believe it's going to be one of them and represent the NFC. What's the team that maybe you have your eye on in the NFC that's like outside of those three that you could see? Because I'll throw one at you.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I'm kind of, I'm kind of thinking the Vikings might be good this year. I like the Vikings. I think, I think we talk so bad about Kirk Cousins. Right. Kirk Cousins had 33 touchdowns and seven interceptions last year. But he does. Kirk Cousins. Yeah, I mean, he had, he had the shirt. He had the picture with no shirt on showing his suntan.
Starting point is 01:14:11 He's kind of like the Corky do, but that's OK. If you can throw 33 touchdowns and seven interceptions, we can win with that. So I think Kevin O'Connell going over there, what he can do. I mean, we've already heard Jefferson say, hey, like, I see what Cooper Cutt was it. Cooper Cutt was able to do in that offense. I'm fired up to see what I can do.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I think the Vikings, I would think the Vikings, I would go with them as Super Bowl dark horse over the Philadelphia Eagles. He was in between those two. So my theory on the Vikings is like, Kirk Cousins is a perfectly fine, exactly average quarterback. Yes. I've watched him his entire career. Yes. He's a great quarterback. You don't want to pay him as much money as they're paying him, ideally.
Starting point is 01:14:47 But I think that there's something to this. And you can speak on as a defensive player where Mike Zimmer was a defensive guy, right? And he outwardly hated Kirk Cousins. You could tell, like, he could not stand the fact that he was paying this guy this much money, just like utterly did not. He didn't have time for Kirk. Now they brought in a guy that is specifically there
Starting point is 01:15:07 to get the most out of Kirk Cousins. The defense going into every game since they felt like they had their coach like on their side as their guy. I feel like the defense is more fired up. They're like, yeah, this guy kind of sucks. So it's on us to step up. Now they've got a guy that's brought in to kind of coddle Kirk and the defense, I think, is going to be a little bit.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It's not going to have the same edge to him. You said the defense won't have the same edge. Yeah, because they don't have they don't have Zimmer. See, I'll give you another perspective. When you're on the defense side of ball and you're balling, you have a really good defense. But you know, if we give up a touchdown or we give up a touchdown late, it's going to be damn near impossible for us to win the game.
Starting point is 01:15:43 It's a lot tougher when you have the chance when you have a quarterback in the offense, where you feel like, hey, and you're sitting on the bench in a two minute drill and you're very hopeful because you're like, hey, like, we're good. Like they're going to go down. We're down to like, we're definitely going to get in field goal range. That hikes the defense up when you're on a defense and you know your quarterback or you know your offense can go win the game.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Even if it is a very average Kirk Cousins, but you believe in Kevin O'Connell. You're like, hey, you give him the fourth quarter, three quarters to be able to figure out what the defense is going to do. He's going to draw some shit up that we're going to be good as a defense. When you don't have that, like you're totally deflated. Every play you give up is just that our chances to win just went out. It's huge. I'm a big believer in that. Like even even in offense that maybe they're not scoring it an elite level,
Starting point is 01:16:29 but not getting three and outs. Exactly. Exactly. Because I'd imagine from a defensive side, if you're playing and you've played on teams where it's like three and out, three and out, three and out. I had nine different quarterbacks in Tennessee. Yeah. So like the fourth or fifth one, you're like, what the fuck? We're just we're just on the field the whole day. We would give up a play on the sideline. It'd be like, all right, we can't give up any more points.
Starting point is 01:16:48 And it's halfway through the first quarter. And it's just like, it's like, damn, well, great. Well, paying mannings over there, like they're going to score again. Yeah. We're going to have to we're going to need some help. So I think a better offense can sometimes kind of hyping that defense. Well, yeah, they may give up more points because that was the thing when I got to New England. It was harder to keep teams under 20 points when you have Brady,
Starting point is 01:17:10 who's possibly putting up 40 points, there's more passes in the game. So it just changes the flow of the game opposed to when I was in Cleveland or I was in Tennessee with a team where we weren't as good. The other team on the other side is just like, hey, no turnovers, no mistakes. Like we'll outlast them and we'll be able to win the game. So the flow of the game is a little bit different. So you're saying you'd rather have Tom Brady as your quarterback than Jake Locker.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Or Zach Mettenberger. Tough one. Jake Locker is kind of a what if. Jake Locker is a great, great dude, too. Like awesome dude. What if. Um, Manburger was almost like the next Brady in a sense, but. I love whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:47 If I had a gun to my head, I'll go, I'll go with Brady. Yeah. Anytime there's like a six or seventh round white dude who has like who like he was tall controls the body a couple of times. Ryan mallet next Brady. Yeah. Ryan mallet couldn't his alarm situation was tough. Yeah. Did a lot a lot going on.
Starting point is 01:18:04 All right. So AFC, I mean, the AFC's yeah, it's crazy how loaded the AFC is unreal. And I know every year we do this when we go into a season and we're like, all right, you can put in, you know, the chiefs, the bills, like list them off. There's obviously going to be one team that will maybe fall off from that. So what's the team that made the playoffs last year? You could be like, ah, because there's, you know, there's there's a lot of times where that will happen where you just write in the Bengals, the chiefs,
Starting point is 01:18:31 the chargers who didn't even make the playoffs. But yeah, what team do you think that everyone's expecting to be really good might take a step back? Well, I'll name a few. I think it's going to be interesting what happens in New England. I think they're a team that made the playoffs last year with Mac. Mac Jones as a rookie quarterback who played really well. They've gone through.
Starting point is 01:18:50 It's been the talk of the entire offseason with Josh McDaniels leaving and taking a ton of coaches with him of what their offense is going to be like. I think it's going to be interesting for them in that division because Buffalo Josh Allen is going to, they're going to be there. They're not falling off, but Miami got better. I mean, they added weapons all over the place. Now the question is we just talked about Kirk Cousins and an offensive coach being able to come and kind of electrify the offense.
Starting point is 01:19:15 What is Mike McDaniel you're going to do for Tua to be able to electrify that offense and make it similar? Miami had a defensive mind to coach and flow, who was more who was kind of focused. He wants to have a great defense and run the ball. Now you get a Mike McDaniel guy who's an offensive guy and the defense is still the same. So I'm interested to see with them. And then I think the AFC West, like the Raiders were in the playoffs last year. But then we look at it, the Chargers didn't make it, the Broncos didn't make it.
Starting point is 01:19:41 But it's just like, why don't we think like this division is going to be very tough? They're going to beat up on each other. I know that's what everybody's talked about. But I do think the Chiefs are still going to be there. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, you've watched him this preseason live. Yes, no Tyreek Hill. But I mean, he's a magician with the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 01:19:58 You mentioned flow when Belichick had his, you know, he screwed up his text messages working, you know, he black, Brian, white, Brian, which one he was texting. Were you called for a character witness? Because he once did screw up you and your brother, right? He did mess that up. Didn't he before Super Bowl? Yeah, he early on when we got there, like he didn't know who was.
Starting point is 01:20:19 I was just called Devin most of the time. They were just used to saying that name. So it was just like, Devin, what are you doing? It was just like, no, I'm Jason coach. But no, I didn't. I didn't get called in. I think that's a that's a simple fix. Like, like you just said, you go in the context,
Starting point is 01:20:35 you just make a little edit to the names and that simplifies. Did he do he when you weren't on the Patriots, he screwed it up, right? He did. That was Dev's second year, they make it to the Super Bowl in Indianapolis and they're playing the Giants and we're down there. And I know too well, the the family schedule when you go down to the Super Bowl, I tell other people, I won one, went to that Super Bowl, I played in, but I've been to five of them
Starting point is 01:20:58 because I went to four of them as the brother of Devin McCourty. But were there Saturday before the Sunday game? And that's when you do the whole family pictures and everybody's down on the field. So I'm down that thing. I'm dressing like jeans and a hoodie or something and Bill walks up to me. It's like, what the hell are you doing? Like, you got to get dressed. We're doing the team.
Starting point is 01:21:15 And he doesn't finish the sentence. He's like, oh, hell, Jason had no idea. Just just blew it. I was just like, if you want me to go put a uniform, I'll line up for you guys. Whatever you need, I'll run down on kickoff. But if you ever thought about doing something like that, like going back to high school, one of you guys sprains an ankle. The other like puts on the uniform real quick, steps in.
Starting point is 01:21:37 I remember my my second year, Dev's rookie year. Jeff Fisher comes up to me wearing practice and he was just like, you and your brother look quite alike, huh? He was just like, I bet if he walked in here and you left, like, we wouldn't know. I was like, no one would have any idea. This would be the year to do it. Like I'm out to lead. Like I fly up to Foxboro, put the stuff on.
Starting point is 01:21:59 I know the defense. Like I know where I'm walking in the building. This would be the time for me to kind of go up there and get some stuff done. You should say I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job, but that would be an electric good morning football segment. I would just try to live a day and see if anyone knows. Just walk into the building and see. Like I would just need one person in New England to be OK with it
Starting point is 01:22:19 because somebody has to tell Dev to stay home so he doesn't get fine. Right. So yeah, that would be OK. That's a video. That's where they do it. If, you know, God forbid he like breaks a finger or something like that and needs a couple of weeks off. Yeah. You just put the pads on, you split the check with them. That's that that would be the tough negotiation. He'd have to give up some of that money.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah, how much how much would you would it cost for you to step in? Like, would you need those full two weeks to pay for his contract? If you stepped in and played two games for him without anybody knowing? Yeah, you said split. We know if I'm playing, I'm going to meetings. I need that full two and he's he's still getting paid a lot. So he's getting paid a lot more than me. So we don't need that.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Just so you know, if he does like twist and ankle or something like that, he's and he's out for a week and when he comes back, I'm just going to say that it's you spread that room. Yes. Oh, wait to see how he plays first. Oh, yeah, he's out there stinking it up. Don't don't put that on me. Like, let him take that. Another media tip for you just anytime a quarterback does something great.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Just be like, if Patrick Mahomes did this, everybody would go nuts. That's just a good thing to say. Like, people love that shit. So anytime a quarterback does like a little sidearm pass. I should have brought my notebook like Matt Stafford. He does that a lot and people do go nuts when Matt Stafford does it. But it's more impactful if you tell people like, hey, you'd be freaking out if Mahomes did this, but you're not doing it right.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Yeah, that's perfect. I love that. I love that. Yeah, Mahomes is the Houdini. All right. So I know you can't talk gambling, wink, wink. So I'm going to ask a question that's not gambling, but maybe has a little gambling undertone.
Starting point is 01:23:46 The psychological aspect of like a letdown game. Is it real in the NFL? Because we see it all the time in college. Like if a college team, you know, I'm sure when you guys beat USF, yeah, you probably didn't have the best practice the next week. We beat Louisville and then we go to Cincinnati and get our ass right. Right. Because you're kids and it's like, all right, we're the big man on campus.
Starting point is 01:24:06 You know, we got this. Yeah. Does that happen in the NFL? Like, is there a, you know, after a big win, can you notice that like maybe maybe it's everyone's, you know, maybe not as focused next week? Nobody talks about it. The only person I've heard, Julian Edelman, like we were there would be times in New England where we're bringing it up and he decides to give a speech and he started off and black wearing a trap game.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Boys, we got to figure it out. We're in a trap game and like everybody's dying. Laughing because anybody that's been around Bill Belichick, like the last thing he wants to hear is somebody talking about a game as a trap game and kind of saying that, all right, this is that let down game. But nobody talks about it. Like you just, I think in the league, especially depending upon what team you're on, like each game has its own kind of anthems or themes for it.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Like you could be with New England and you went a tough game versus whoever the chiefs or whatever. And then the next week you're playing the Jets and you're just like, all right, this is the let down game. But in New England, you hate the Jets. So just like if this is an easy team, like we want to beat the breaks off of them or it's a team that's at a conference and it's just like, well, we barely played this team.
Starting point is 01:25:11 So we're going to have to put an extra. I feel like there's always something that makes that game tough. And because it only happens for the good team, the bad teams, you're trying to win every single game because you just lost the one before. But I think for the good teams, there's always some form of a theme or something going on that makes that game important at the time. OK, OK, that makes sense. What was the team that you hated the most?
Starting point is 01:25:30 That I played on or while I was playing playing against? Well, we can do both either rounds. Yeah, you already said you don't want to be back in that facility. Team I hated while playing. I would say when I was in Tennessee playing against Houston, there was a lot of there was a lot of hate. I think there's history between the Titans from Houston as the Oilers then going over to Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:25:51 So there was always like a rivalry that was forming and that was brought in to relatively new teams because Tennessee hadn't had a team until they moved from Houston and then Houston was the expansion team. So there was always kind of those rivalries. And then the fact that Cortland and Andre got into a fight didn't help the fact that when we played them, you better be ready to go. OK, so I had one last question. This has been great. We appreciate you coming by, Jason.
Starting point is 01:26:14 You're you're now a recurring guest. So you have to come any time it's down the street down the street. Yeah, we'll chop it up. The row back question. R H O B A C K dot com use code take for 20% off your first purchase, Q zips, hoodies, polos, everything row back dot com promo code take. Give us your Super Bowl pick match up and winner Super Bowl. Again, remember everything we've told you, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yeah. All right. I'm telling you my winner off rip. I'm going with the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. OK, like I see him this and this is also my reasoning with him. There hasn't been many times. I don't know if there's been a time where you've won the Super Bowl and the League MVP. And I feel like Josh Allen's trajectory is going that way.
Starting point is 01:26:57 But I feel like the storyline this year will be Patrick Mahomes losing Tyreek Hill and him continuing to be able to put up a performance. He'll be possibly the MVP. Maybe we'll see. But on the NFC side, oh, man, I think I'm going to go. I think I'm going to go. Why not? I'm going to do a team that nobody wants to hear.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I'll go to Dallas Cowboys put them put them in a Super Bowl. I'll go on Twitter and whoever reads this is going to kill me. We did a segment where we had to talk about who was under the most pressure in the NFC East quarterbacks and I chose Dak Prescott. And somebody tweeted me like, why the hell are you always talking about the Cowboys? I'm like, I'm literally saying they're under pressure because they may not do it, but everybody's saying they're good. So people hate to hear about the Cowboys.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Also, I mean, that's just TV. Like, yeah, talk about the Cowboys. It doesn't matter what you say. Yeah, right. And you'll get you'll get people watching. Exactly. OK. Yeah. I mean, that would be an all time classic matchup. I know. Cowboys again. But yeah, I don't I just don't see it like Mike McCarthy to me.
Starting point is 01:27:57 He just it feels like they're just waiting to fire. Yeah, I'm just going to say, like, that's what big cats. That's what he's thinking. We all think it. Mike McCarthy is a dumb dumb. Yeah. And he's just he's a turk. They're just waiting to fire. They're like, hey, we're every time every time Jerry Jones talks, that's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Yeah. Right. Sean Payton is probably like flying in the back of Jerry Jones's plane. Just in case this is the week that Mike McCarthy gets fired. We'll just switch him right out. Take over. Yeah, I sound a little mean when I call Mike McCarthy dumb, but he's dumb. Yeah, no, he's dumb. Like he sat down at that opening press conference and he was like, yeah, you know, I sat down with a with a guy that's really good at computers.
Starting point is 01:28:33 And he taught me about all these stats. That was bullshit. Mike McCarthy, he doesn't give a shit about stats. Well, and it's also I mean, it's it's just a fact as a bigger guy myself. Like when you're when you're overweight and you're dumb, you're extra dumb. Like it just there's something about it where it's just like, well, he's really dumb. I've always been really skinny, so I don't know. I can't I don't know the feeling of being like takes a while for people to say you're dumb. It takes a while for them to notice.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Yeah, whereas like Mike McCarthy, it's like he's kind of like drooling on his face. Like what is going on? He's dumb. Yeah, like Bill can say something dumb and people will be like, oh, that's just a secret genius at work. But Coach Bielema says something dumb and they're like, oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, right. He's a slob. Yeah. No, it's true. I'm just laughing at that fact that he went to Coach Bielma line.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Yeah. Former Patriots coach. I was with Brett in New England. Like he's a he's a good dude, though. We like him really good. He's a huge guy, huge guy, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Coaching lifestyle is tough, like not much sleep. Like sometimes you just grab in a treat for like it's tough to stay healthy
Starting point is 01:29:33 as a coach, maybe those workouts and stuff. You think about becoming a coach after you retire? It was always going to be like, let's see what we can do in media. Oh, if not media, just figuring out what was next. Never coaching. I said to my wife, I hope I never get to urge the coaches. Just, I mean, they're in the building daily till like midnight. You you you miss so much of the world going on outside of just like we're trying to win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Oh, I had one last, last question. Sorry. We've talked about this with Jules, but was there ever a moment that Ernie Adams pulled you aside and was like, Hey, here's a little tip. It was more like history of somebody with something would come up like maybe eight o'clock a.m. and in a meeting or something came up. Somebody asked a question about it and had the answer. It'd be like four o'clock days ending and Ernie would come up to you with like a whole stat and a story behind like why something was installed.
Starting point is 01:30:27 It was almost like incredible that it was just like, damn, he remembered that. And the thing that was fun about Ernie, like he would draw the cards that for the scout team on Friday practices. So like as a defense, like Friday as a vet is just like, I'm not going through the motions, but like I got to get ready for we're two sleeps away from the game. I got to get ready. I'm not trying to go out here and run a hundred percent. And often sometimes the scout team often to go out there and destroy us.
Starting point is 01:30:53 And like for guys on the defense, you'd be like, man, Ernie's drawing shit up. Like they didn't show this on film in the past 16, 15 weeks. And now all of a sudden we're getting a double reverse pass on a Friday. And it's just like, you could say something to Ernie. And he'll he'll have like in 1984, they ran this place. I'm like, he's brilliant, brilliant. Ever like work out that he would run something in I can't remember what day. I can't remember which team we played, but I mean,
Starting point is 01:31:17 we got killed in a Friday practice to the point where this was an 18 flow. Like stopped to practice and like snapped on all of us. We had one of our best performances on defense that Sunday and shut out. I don't remember who we played, but killed him that Sunday. Ernie Ernie is a genius. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we love hearing just, I mean, Jules gives us a little bit. I think he holds some of it back. Yeah. There's a mystery around Ernie Adams. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:40 OK, well, Jason, thank you so much. Good luck with the new show. Like I said, you got to come back. Yes. So you're right down the street. Maybe we'll have you back when the Cowboys start like one in six or something. Yeah. Like, what do you think now? I'm going to say I never said that. Yeah, no, we're going to hold you to everything.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yeah, I never said that. Yeah, let us know if you get, if you go up to New England for a week. Yeah, we'll figure that out. Make that video. We'll get a good video. We'll get you guys to sponsor it so we can get some money out. We'll sponsor this video. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. All right, thanks so much. Jason, Cordy was brought to you by Zip Recruiter.
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Starting point is 01:33:30 We're not going to do any football would be bad. Yeah, I would agree. We probably only have three left ever. Why ever? Because I think I think this is going to destroy the podcast. That might destroy the podcast. So Hank has, if you miss Fridays, Hank stabbed back girl and memes in the back threw them off the bus, said that I want to do this shit myself.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Pouted being a little bitch. Some people are saying not me. I love you, Hank, being a little bitch. No, I have no bad attitude. Listen, I have no problem with with what Hank did. But if he had done it to me, I would be like, wow, this guy is a terrible human being. Right. Basically, like almost a how to of how not to be a coach or a leader of a team.
Starting point is 01:34:16 How to alienate your entire team and turn the world against you. No, I'm calling plays myself now. By Hank Laughlin. OK, call and plays yourself. So, Hank, would you do we win? We won last time we won. Should we let it go? Did you? Yeah, yeah, they won by like five percent.
Starting point is 01:34:32 Shout out Nick Handrich, AWL for the recommendation on this. Oh, yeah. So this is Mount Rushmore of things that it sucks to be late to late for. I say we do Hank a favor and we let him take the end of the snake. So he gets two picks in a row. OK, I think that's the best place to be. OK, we go first then. Yeah, we can go first. Or do you want to let you want to let Jake and Billy go? Yeah, they'll fuck it up. Yeah, yeah, OK, let them go first.
Starting point is 01:34:57 All right. So Jake and Billy. Oh, wow. Jake, Billy and and Max. Yeah, we have Max. We have me right now. We are all pretty much in agreement on our one one. By the way, just as a side note, we have memes on our team and we're not going to do what Hank did and like bash memes. But memes contributed nothing to this fucking Mount Rushmore zero.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Well, he said that like he said the thing that he sent over to us. His first one, he said should be one one. Yeah, he I don't know about that. He also maybe he's a maybe he's a spy and he's still giving Hank picks. Oh, is he double crossing us? You guys are shook. Hmm. OK, did memes send Hank our entire list? All right. Yeah, he probably did.
Starting point is 01:35:45 OK, here we go. We put a few fake ones on there just in case. Yeah. All right. Which which we have. We have an agreement. Yeah. One one worst things to be late to job interview late to late for. Yeah, a job interview. Job interview. OK. Job interview. Yeah, it's not a good one. Good one. It's you're in a hole. OK. Yeah. No, that's true. That's absolutely true.
Starting point is 01:36:08 You fucked. What? You fucked. Yeah, you fucked. All right. Our one one pick. You agree with this one one. That's a good one one. Yeah. Things that sucks to be late for late to pulling out really bad, really bad when you're late. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of it. Kills it. Guess what? Oh, babe, I'm about to pull out.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Oh, shit. Guess what? Now you have to you have to raise a kid. Yeah. Well, there's alternate options, too. Like that's not you can. You can. Well, what state are you living in, buddy? Plan B. Excuse me. It's playing B, not every news. Maybe not for long.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah, pulling out. That sucks. Pulling out. I get job interviews. So what? You don't get the job. There's other jobs out there. Now you got a kid. Right. OK. Billy also just like that one blew his mind because he was thinking like job interview, weddings. Like there's some other things out there.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I had that on what was it? The other Mount Rush more the other day. What? Yeah, it was like things in slow motion. Yes, slow motion pulling out. Yeah. OK, Hank, Hank has written it down on a piece of paper. I do. He's wearing a collared shirt. And I still in this football guy crew neck. Which is a great, great sweatshirt.
Starting point is 01:37:23 I still have my one one. I feel like I'm being trolled to an extent. But my one one is your child being born. OK. Yeah, unless they don't remember. Maybe playing a football game at the time. I think you're the person having the child, probably would. Maybe. Yeah, true. Do you think, though, maybe the person having the child
Starting point is 01:37:41 is more mad that she's having the child because you forgot to pull out? No. OK. And then chicken and the egg right there. Like, which one are you more mad at? Two, I will go with a fantasy football draft. Oh, yeah, that is bad. That's pretty bad.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Show up late for that. You take your whole season. Yeah, auto draft. Yeah. And then everyone else is mad at you, too. You can draft from your phone nowadays, though. Yes, if you're on time. Yeah, yes, on time. That would be about it.
Starting point is 01:38:09 But that would be so it's not on time. Yeah, no, if you just forget. If you just are late to your fantasy football draft, you do the auto draft and you get like a guy who just got injured. It's fucking sucks when you do the thing where you're you get a defense in like the sixth round. Yeah, one time I was late for a I was doing a baseball MLB fantasy
Starting point is 01:38:28 draft when I was in college and I just completely forgot about it. And all the other guys in that league, nine guys, it took me like five years to get that friendship back. They were so mad that I fucked up their entire draft. How was your how are the seam had expressed doing? Oh, good question, Hank. Let's see, I might need to redownload the app because I forgot about it for the last month.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Let's see. When I was a kid, my dad was so committed to not being late to a fantasy draft that he actually left me at the Little League field. That's good parenting because it's lead by example. OK, because he had a draft. All right, update on the seam had express. He didn't pick me up. He was supposed to pick me up and he had a draft.
Starting point is 01:39:02 So he forgot about me. There was like no cell phones. They were doing it on like a fucking overhead projector. Legit. We read and you couldn't like you have to call in trades and shit. No, but like, how did you know I'm saying you couldn't call him? There was no cell phones. No, right. No, no, no, no, none of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Fourteen, four and zero. When percentage 778 first place in the East. I got the number one overall seed right now after the playoffs started. Nice. I'm a fucking wagon. Nice. And I still have no, no, I cut Tatis. I cut him. Good. Cut his ass. Good. Send a message to the youngsters out there.
Starting point is 01:39:33 All right, we got next pick. I think we should go. Yeah, well, I saw the one that you sent. You don't like those top three? No, I like them, but then I went back and I like the one, two, three, fourth one that I sent you. Maybe we take that one in the last round, the fourth one that I sent you. OK, so I'll go with our number two on this list.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Yeah, yeah, go into the bathroom. Don't want to be late for that. If you're on a train, you're trying to get somewhere hypothetically and you end up having a full blowout. Sad day, bad day. It's a catastrophe. It looked like George Brett dumped a can of wolf chili into his underwear. It was bad.
Starting point is 01:40:11 It was really bad being late for the bathroom. That's really, really bad. Yeah. I've been honestly got into my head. Oh, yeah. Now I'm like every time, every time I feel something in my stomach, I sprint to a bathroom because I can't have that happen. That was that's like watching, remember that? What was that movie that? Fuck, Adam Driver and Scarlett Johansson.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Oh, the marriage thing. One you watch that with your significant other and you're like, whoa, that's what the same effect that I had when I watched Jerry's. And I'm like, whoa, that could I have like, I have to do a systems check. Yeah, like this is you watch Chernobyl and you're like, that could happen to me. Dude, I'm not even kidding. The last couple of days, I've pooped probably like three times, four times a day. What, Billy, was that your poop guy?
Starting point is 01:40:58 Billy keeps saying I'm a poop guy. Are you a poop guy? Are you a poop guy? We like, are you a poop guy? I think I might be a poop guy. Pooping like takes up a lot of your day. Yeah, you have to like, we like wait for the podcast because you're pooping. You know, no, no, you're a poop guy.
Starting point is 01:41:14 No, I'd never I never delay this podcast with my brother. I delay I delay macrodos. Where was he pooping recently on Great Week? You were in in and out and he was pooping the whole time. I was like, where's P.F.D. and he's pooping. You're a poop guy. I had to poop in and out. I'm sorry. No, you're a poop guy.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Scott Boris. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I did poop. Yeah, see, I might be. You are. You are. Yeah, he might be right. You're absolutely right. He is a poop. But but I've been to hold up the group poop guy.
Starting point is 01:41:39 I've been pooping more often recently just because that Jersey Jerry video because I don't want it to happen to me. I've been running to the bathroom. Oh, yeah. No, I left the house today with my kids and I was like, I felt like I had maybe like a little something going. I was like, wait, I should probably take care of this now. Yeah, it's better safe than sorry. Uh huh. So yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 01:41:56 I'm a poop guy. What my digestive system is healthy. I don't think you can. Yeah, I mean, it does suck being the poop guy. Everyone's like, oh, yeah, we got to wait. Oh, it's like P.F.D. He's taking a shit. Yeah, it rarely happens. It's so much.
Starting point is 01:42:07 We just gave four examples over the course of seven years doing this podcast. But I don't think you have an example of anyone else. That's the problem. If you were gone, we would know he's probably. Yeah, Jake's a bit way bigger. No, no, no, no, I've never run out in the middle of an episode. Never done that. He's got weak bowels, but that's different.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I think Jake's got great bowels. Like if you went missing, everyone assumes it's because you're pooping. Yeah, he's just pooping. You just forgot that you're pooping like that one day that I came in at one o'clock. Yeah, I was actually just pooping the entire time. Exactly. It's a correct call by Billy. You are the poop guy. OK, whatever.
Starting point is 01:42:38 A poop guy. OK, Billy, Jake, you have two. We're going to go. We're going to go first. You guys, you see that? OK, no, no, no, there's some. No, I got distracted by the tension. No, no, I got distracted by the poop guy and I didn't see what our two two was.
Starting point is 01:43:01 So is this a Billy pick or is it a Jake pick or Max team game? Or Max. Yeah, why doesn't matter? We all agreed on these picks. So your own wedding, your own good pick. Because then it is. Are you standing them up like you're late? Well, you're doing the night before bachelor party gone wrong. You get really judged by everybody.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Maybe you're just stuck on a rooftop in Vegas. Exactly. Mm hmm. Yep. So it's always weird in movies because I don't think this ever happens in real life. But every movie that's about a wedding, they always have the bachelor party the night before, which is the worst idea that you can ever have. Nobody really does that, right? It's crazy. I want to know if there are any A.W.L.s out there that.
Starting point is 01:43:39 I think that's like an old back in the day. I know my dad did that. I think it's guys like sweating and who don't have a lot of friends. So they're like the only chance I can get anyone is to have them already be at the wedding. So like they play golf before. You're going to be like if you are someone who might not have a ton of friends and you're like, well, if I do a bachelor party and there's three guys here, it's going to be lame.
Starting point is 01:44:00 So we'll just trap everyone and just make everyone go play golf. Yeah. Like there's always a guy in the group that's like, I don't want to go to the wedding, but can you invite me to the bachelor party? And this is a way to trap them and be like, guess what? You have to do both. I think it's also moved that if you think that there's a chance that you you might get cold feet, you have the bachelor party the night before. And then you have like you're more you're more likely when you're super
Starting point is 01:44:22 over to call it off. Shout out, by the way, the A.W.L. that I saw in on the way to Miami, boarding my plane. He goes he's like 25 and he's came up to me was talking. He's like, yeah, I'm going to my first ever bachelor party. And the twinkle in his eye, it was like a passing of the torch, because I think this is the last one I'll ever go on. And he was so excited.
Starting point is 01:44:45 He's like going to a club or doing this. And I was just like, I look like I was going to fucking war. I was like, yeah, I'm doing the same thing as you, but I'm just not going to be able to recover. One of the cruel tricks in life is the more excited you are to go in a bachelor party when you're young is when you don't have like not everybody has steady jobs and good incomes when you're younger and you're super excited to go to a bachelor party.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Then when you get older and you can actually afford to do all the stuff that you wanted to do when you were 22, 23, you don't want to do that anymore. Right. Yeah, I had a great time, but I also feel like hell. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Next pick. Max, would you like to announce it? Oh, big moment. Oh, wow. Great delegation. My job. Yeah. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:45:26 I don't think I don't think that's ever happened, right, Max? No, I'm just happy to be a part of a team that appreciates my it didn't take you didn't take you to keep you in a cage. Yeah, no, no, for sure, for sure. Did you? Yeah, did you refill your bowl tonight? We use this government name to nice. Beautiful. It's true. It's very nice. We'll go with our third pick as flights.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Ah, good pick. Mm hmm. Good pick being late to a flight. So I'll see a couple of hundred bucks at the best case scenario. Yeah. Bunch of stress. Even if you're on time for your flight barely, but you're like late getting to the airport, that's almost worse. The stress that you have when you're in the cab on the way there and you're just thinking you're doing the math.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Like, am I going to make it? Am I going to be late? And then you run through security, you're sweating, TSA holds you. They always check your bag when you when you think that you might be late for the flight and then you sprint and then you get on the plane and you're like the last person on the plane, you're out of breath. That entire situation is bad. Or when you're like because you never know security lines are always like so inconsistent, there's no time where sometimes they're good,
Starting point is 01:46:26 sometimes they're bad. It's just a complete crapshoot. So you're pulling up to the airport, being like, I need it to be a small line. I need to be a small line. And then if it's even half the size or like a full long line, you're like, I'm fucked. Yeah. But you still have to go through the line just in case. And then you end up having like one minute to sprint to the terminal. Yeah. And you think you're going to be on time and getting through.
Starting point is 01:46:46 And then you remember about time zones and you're like, oh, shit, I'm an hour late. Yeah. I get a sick rush going back this weekend. We'll see. Oh, nice. Oh, careful. They change their times. Careful. I know. All right. Good pick. Our third pick. What do you think? Let's see. I think that we take the one that I just told you about.
Starting point is 01:47:07 We take that coming back because. Yeah, yeah. Take that one. No, he's an idiot. I kind of like. I like the one that we have on there. The third. Yeah. I do too. The third one's pretty good. OK. Calling a foul and pick up hoops. No one likes that guy. I mean, that's the worst thing you can be as a person to call the foul
Starting point is 01:47:26 after everything happens and then just like, oh, you hit my hand. Yeah. After the shot doesn't go in. Yeah. Have you ever called it early and then you get it in and they don't count the shot like pre-crime? No, I don't call. I don't call fouls. No, but like you get fouled really hard, but you still go up and you call foul. Well, that's what you do. I call it when it happens.
Starting point is 01:47:45 Right. Right. But then they don't give you the and one. I like play. I like it when it's just obvious that there's a foul and it's just like every no one even has to call it. It's just like that was clearly a foul or the guy who fouls calls a foul. But when you call a foul on someone after a play in pick up hoops, you are the worst person alive. Like it's it's like a 50 50 call or not even a foul. The worst Michael Irvin in the longest yard against Adam Sandler.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That was a dirty, dirty play. Yep. Yep. OK. Hank. I'm going to go with my third pick. Court. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine you get the stink eye. Well, yeah, it's got to be tough. Show up late. I'm sure the judge doesn't appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:48:28 You're just you're just screwing yourself. You're in contempt. Well, you end up waiting for so long. Say what you will about OJ, but he always showed up on time to court. It's true. But when you go to secondly in jail, but when you go to court, they just end up you have to like wait for everybody else. Like court opens at 11. How many times have you been to court? Yeah, what? It opens at 11. They just court in general always opens at 11.
Starting point is 01:48:48 What are you doing here, Billy? And what people are waiting for traffic court, traffic court traffic. What about other court? Just what time does that court open for citations and traffic violations? It's eleven o'clock speeding tickets. Just speeding tickets, OK, tickets. That's it. And then you go and then you have to like wait for everybody else. Right. I don't know why anyone else would be going to court.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Right. Right. A lot of things people go to court for many reasons. Just speeding tickets. That's it. Yes. Nothing else. Never. I've actually never gotten any sort of criminal trouble. You're not going on wood. You can control that.
Starting point is 01:49:28 I know. I've only gone traffic violations. No, but you knock on wood when it's like I hope I don't like break my leg. Billy Billy definitely thinks that at some point in his life, he will be the target of mass framing. Oh, yeah. Where like the entire world is against him. Hubs to some people. Like who? Yeah. Go on, Snowden.
Starting point is 01:49:46 Anyone recently? No. OK. Give Billy's due process, everybody. OK, our pick is we got Billy so flustered. You're two picks away. OK. Yeah. As soon as we start talking about crime, Billy's is ready to commit to or admit to everything. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:50:10 And then my final pick, I will go with a sports tryout. OK, so what is your for your child being born? Court, fantasy, football, draft, sports tryouts, sports tryout. That's an interesting last pick. It was anyone like specifically you were thinking of, because that seems like came out of the blue. No, I mean, I think because has anybody been late to a sports tryout? I'm sure there's a lot of people that have been late to sports tryout.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Obviously, the coaches, you know, they want to make an example of someone. Isn't that on your parents anyway? You should be like, my parents fucking suck. Well, yeah, but maybe you're in college, you're trying out for a team, whatever it may be, if you're late for a sports tryout, you're just you're screwing yourself. I'll stand up for Hank a little bit. There's nothing worse than being late to a high school football meeting.
Starting point is 01:50:56 Right, I'm just saying. The coach, that's what that's what they love, is like everybody's five minutes early to my meeting. I was between that and you're and showing up late to the first practice of the season, because then you're pretty bad. But you can kind of make up for that throughout the rest of the season. Like that's always like, you know, coaches almost like that, because they can make an example out of you.
Starting point is 01:51:13 And then, you know, get better during the season. But you show up late to a tryout. That might be the reason you get cut. I was saying, some coaches are like that, where it's like, well, he's good, but he showed up late. We can't have that on this team. When you're a kid, though, there's definitely like, there's definitely just all the kids. Like there's always one kid on every team whose parents are just a mess
Starting point is 01:51:30 and like not mess like bad, but just they're always late. It's like, yeah, that's their parents fault. So there's definitely a point where it becomes your fault. But for a long time, you're I mean, you can't drive yourself. Right. It's an eight year old's late. Yeah, right. It's not his fault. Right. OK. Let's do his pooping. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:48 My our last one, my top four. We're going to go with they were. Yeah, the power ranks. Interesting. The 20s. I wouldn't be bragging about that being your top four. For our last one, we're going to go. Mount Rushmore of worse things to be late to a podcast taping after watching a lacrosse movie the night before.
Starting point is 01:52:08 That would be a bad one to be ready for. I'm pretty bad. Pretty bad, by the way, fate of a sport, that exact movie where we went to the after party debuts on ESPN plus today. Well, be careful when you watch it. It might be August. Now I trigger you into getting drunk and your job to stand up for Billy on this one now.
Starting point is 01:52:27 It might be like that movie, The Ring, where you see the ring and then you die later. If you watch this movie, you might be late to work the next day. Yes. Yeah. So the show that Billy entertain clients afterwards is now available to you. It might get you so high. Plus, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:43 Warnings makes you want to get drunk. Yeah. So it actually was a fantastic documentary. And if you don't don't even like lacrosse, like it's cool to see how a league is created from scratch. Yes. Agreed. All right. So everyone go watch it. Support our friend, Paul Rable. All right. Last pick.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Billy's thinking about like what crimes that I almost say. I hope the court people. Yeah, I hope the people who I go to court. Everyone knows traffic court opens at 11 every Tuesday. The judge spends all morning like looking at actual cases and like meeting with like prosecutors. But you also, I was talking about court in general, and then you just decided that because traffic court opens at 11.
Starting point is 01:53:20 Because that's what usually people are going to court for. Our last pick would be late if you were being the getaway driver while your friends were robbing a bank. That's actually a solid pick. Yeah, that is. That is actually a pretty good pick. Being late on your period. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Good one.
Starting point is 01:53:38 That's like a distant cousin of the pulling out one. Yeah. Now, so I had that. I put that in our list. We went with the pull out instead because I thought about it a little bit. It's not always bad to be late for your period. If you're trying to get pregnant, it's a great thing. You might be like the best day of your life.
Starting point is 01:53:56 That's true. Finally did it. It could go either way. It's yeah, it's a real feast or famine. It's like it's like Jim told me swinging. You're either going to strike out or done. Let's see what young male listeners think. Oh, you think you're going to be 18 to 35. They got a lot of periods.
Starting point is 01:54:15 We have wouldn't. When pulling out be the. Yeah, that's the one that a little guy, but I think people people. Who knows? OK, let's talk about what we missed. Did everyone else have other things we missed? I had a Jake's their first book was kind of too similar, but like a work presentation. Because you can show up late to work sometimes,
Starting point is 01:54:38 you know, you can sneak in or kind of get by. But if you're supposed to be in a meeting or something where you're presenting and you like they're expecting you to speak at. You'd never want to be late for that. Yeah, I had a flag against your team. Like that's just the worst. A late flag or like the graphic being late. Yeah, it just fucking kills you when it's like game over flag.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Like if you're a Miami fan in that, that's still too soon. Yeah, still too soon. Renewing a passport is bad because then you'll have to change vacation plans. We had if you're Adam Schefter and you're behind in Rappaport, breaking news on Twitter, then all those replies are just late, late, late. Rapsheet had it first. Being late to post like a viral video sucks because everyone's like, oh, dude, saw that.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Like I laugh so hard. Last time I saw I laughed so hard, I fell off my dinosaur. It's like you're four hours late to it. It's fucking worse. Like I could even sense tonight when we told you the Pogue got hurt. Yeah, like a little bit of you was like, what the fuck? I can't believe I'm right. It's the worst.
Starting point is 01:55:46 It's it's the Internet has completely warped our brains like a fucking mascot got hurt and your initial like natural reaction is like, damn, how do I miss that? I saw it. Yeah. I saw it 24 hours later. It might as well be next month. Right. Right. Or being like late to a joke. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Because someone makes it before you. And then they think you're copying. Yeah. If you're late to a cruise ship that's leaving after a day that they've dropped you off on like a day trip and it's pulling away and you know, you're absolutely fucked. Yep. Late to the train sucks. Yeah. Miss it by a second. I had this one kind of specific, but like the kid who was late to learning
Starting point is 01:56:23 how to ride a bike that that sucks for any kid who like was the last kid to learn how to ride a bike is always like one kid running by them or like on the pegs. It's like, dude, you just got to learn how to ride a bike. We had a practice led by Bill Belichick. Oh, yeah. Good one. Good one. That's why Gray got cut, right? Yeah. Slept in after he scored what three? Four touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:56:45 There's four. Get I think it was three against the Colts. He's on Sports Hillshade. Yeah. Yeah. A drawbridge. Oh, yeah. Train crossing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:55 A movie. I mean, it's not that, you know, not top four, but I should have laid to once upon a time in Hollywood, like 15 minutes late and I miss the entire flamethrower beginning. So when it happened at the end, I go, that was that was from the beginning. I was like, oh, you get like 15, 20 minutes of relief. Yeah. It sucks to be late to a game and have like some cool play happen.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Yeah. Yeah. You're waiting, especially when you're like just late and you get to your seats, but the usher's like, oh, you have to wait for a whistle or a time out or something. Like a goal and play off hockey or a touchdown. You're just like, what the fuck? It would suck to be late if you were giving an order to send your tanks to reinforce your troops in Western France when an Allied invasion is happening. That would probably be a pretty big mistake if you were to make that one.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Shouldn't be that shouldn't be late there. No, it's a fact. Anything else? I was a good Mount Rushmore. Great Mount Rushmore all around. I feel like we've had some good Mount Rushmores. Yeah, Hank, you weren't as bad as I thought you'd be. Yeah, you actually like maybe just you being by yourself fixed all of your
Starting point is 01:57:54 attitude problems. Yeah, you're a lone wolf. Yeah, I mean, I told you I'm a new man. I've turned over a new leaf football season. I'm a sweet dick. You did a great job. Thanks. It was a pleasure to be around you.
Starting point is 01:58:08 You guys did. All right. No, that was good. There's your guys. We've been fake nice to them because we know that we won. They got job interview, your own wedding. Flight periods. Yeah, you guys might win.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Jilly might win. Hank's not. But Jilly might win. Hank didn't like lose catastrophe. No, no, no, he's just born. I fell asleep during his decides the who wins. The people. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I fell asleep during yours. So you're yeah, but you're talking about it. Like, you know, the results are decided already. They kind of do decide who wins. What? Yeah, low key. The poll decides there's a direct correlation to them saying, oh, they had a really good Mount Rushmore. They'll win.
Starting point is 01:58:50 And who actually wins? Should we do Hank show multiple drawings that in honor of the birth that this is the machine? No, I we did nine on opening day. August 20, 2020. I'm going to do two. How old is the machine to two? I'm going to do two for its first birthday.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Yeah, for its birthday. Maybe Hank will get one. Yeah. Hank, have you gotten one? I have not. Oh, it's crazy. Like on your own show. How old is the machine? Two years.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Two. It's a lot. How many picks have we had? I think someone DM me like 350 or something. Wow. OK. And there's how many balls? 350 in there. I think they actually say it's more impressive than Hank hasn't gotten it. No, don't do that, Jake.
Starting point is 01:59:28 Do not do that. OK, two, six, nine, 27, 50. I think you should have to keep the same pick for both. Yeah, we'll give Hank even a better shot. Fifty seven, twenty seven, twenty six, fifty six. What's your pick, Hank? Two. I'm rooting for you, Hank. Thanks to not get it right.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Eight. Oh, one more for a birthday. Fifth time for the birthday boy. The power of the one and ninety nine shot. Yeah, Hank, would this be a Mickey Mouse? If it's oh, we'll definitely say that. Yeah, obviously. Sixty five. No, no. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
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