Pardon My Take - Jay Gruden, Viral Sensation Thomas "Snacks" Lee And We Have An Idea

Episode Date: March 4, 2020

We have an idea, a dumb one, but it's an idea (2:23 - 6:41). DC Defenders trying to make cup snake history (6:41 - 12:38). Coach K is getting to the fun old stage of his career and Tom Brady Update (12:38 - 20:50). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Coronavirus and handshake lines (20:50 - 30:46). Jaguars OC and former Redskins coach Jay Gruden joins the show to talk about his last days in DC, being in a football family, and whether or not Sean McVay stole he and his brothers lingo (30:46 - 56:05). Viral Sensation Thomas "Snacks' Lee joins the show to talk about hitting his big three for Jackson State on Monday night and taking the internet by storm. Segments include bachelor talk for guys that don't watch the bachelor, PR 101 for the Knicks, Respect the Biz and Guys on Chicks.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Go download it right now, use code Barstool, get $10 free, $10 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, March 4th, and I have an idea of PFD. Uh-oh. I have an idea. Are you ready for this idea? All great things start with those three words. I have an idea, PFD, four words. Three.

Yeah. I have an idea of PFD. An idea is not words, an idea is actions. It is. Okay, so here's my idea. Have you guys seen this smoothie? We talked about it briefly on Sunday. The Bend Barstool.

Of course. The Gatorade and Egg Smoothie. Everyone in the media is drinking it. Everyone's being like, oh, it's crazy. Not us. We're taking it suppository. This is similar to the Michael Phelps 20,000 calorie meal, or whatever, that everyone's like, I'm gonna try this.

We need to find a recurring guest who is a current athlete and figure out a way for them to plant in the media a completely disgusting thing that they eat as training and see how many people we can get to drink. Okay, so it'll be Joe Burrow, and it'll be Skyline Chili. He can't say it on the show, though. He's gotta say it to regular media, so he's gotta be like, hey, yeah, I've actually been getting in great shape. I've been using a smoothie maker with Skyline Chili, four eggs.

A scoop of tapioca pudding. A scoop of tapioca pudding, three ice cubes, but the ice cubes are in the freezer where the fridge has some stinky cheese, so you got a little bit of the taste of that. Where's your sauce? 16 fire ants. Dang. We don't want to... Shout out, Aerowood.

Yep, we're gonna just throw those in there. To give you the strength, what else can we put in there? Vegetarian beef. Vegetarian beef. And the real beef from Skyline. And the real beef from Skyline, maybe a little Lysol because of the coronavirus, and top it off with just the marshmallows from Lucky Charms. And a Bud Light Seltzer.

And you zap that up, you've been drinking it every day, and look, mom, I'm the number one pick in the NFL, and see how many people, how many idiots we can get to drink this stupid concoction. I do. You like that idea? That's pretty good. I would actually try that. Yeah, I mean, I'm so dumb that we're creating a drink to put into the media to trick other

people into drinking it because it's so disgusting. And I'm sitting over here thinking like, yeah, I kind of want to try that. I want to find out what the big Joe Burrow secret is. Yeah, it dawned on me after I saw the sixth video of someone trying it, and it was like, we could get anyone to do this. It's kind of like our botched attempt where I used, I thought MO was Montana, not Missouri, and we were going to create a fake Twitter account for a minor league hockey team and a menu item that Ravel would have to tweet about that was just a piece of dog shit.

Yeah. That one we put in the Rock State. Rock State, that happens a lot. It was an unacquainted team. Someone do that for us. Someone do that for us. Just if you can get Darren Ravel to tweet a picture of dog shit. Yes.

In any way. We're a fake team. Cultivate that team for years. No, no, no. Tell you what. We'll leave it up to you. However you want to get Darren Ravel to tweet a picture of dog shit. Do it.

And we will, if you do that, Hank will send you one part of my take shirt. Fact. All right. So that was, I just had that idea just popped in my head because I was scrolling through Twitter there hasn't been, but there wasn't a lot going on the last two days. I have an experiment. Oh yeah. We can get into my experiment right now.

Yeah, you want to do it? So my DC defenders are home again this weekend where we defend. Where you're the only place you can win. We defend Audi field. That's our fucking stadium. And I saw you were not to like really bring down the mood, but you were eight in Renegade Jim's Power Rankings. Well, he just did that.

He got it on my skin. I'm just saying, I saw the, the only power rankings I read, the DC defenders were the worst team in the Exxon. Well, okay. The DC defenders aren't even, or the, the, the guardians, wait, which ones are guardians again? New York. New York guardians.

They stink. Dallas Renegades aren't even the best team in their state. Well, much worse. You lost to the Vipers. Yeah. Yeah. You lost to the Vipers. Yeah.

It's fine. The Vipers. Dude, it was an aberration on the road. You got Viped. Dallas lost to Houston. They're Ipso facto. They're the worst team in their state. Okay.

So what, what's the experiment? So the experiment is a coach, Pep Hamilton, my coach, coach for life. He said that he wants to get the Cup snake going again this weekend. The DC defenders have embraced. Stole from the Cubs. Haven't. No. Stole it from European soccer.

Stole it from cricket. Yeah. It's been around. From rugby. Stole it from. Yeah. Cup snakes have been around for decades. Yeah.

The Cubs popularized it. DC defenders are absolutely embracing it. And what they've said is Pep said that he wants to get the Cup snake going again this weekend. I'm challenging DC defenders fans to get a Cup snake that goes around the entire stadium. Okay. And I want to see how long, how many beers it would take, fellas. How many beers.

Do you have a cup? A cup snake. I've got, I've got solo cups here. So you're just going to measure it? One of these stacks is 32 cups. Okay. So let me get to this. So this experiment is just measuring cups.

Yeah. It's a science experiment. Okay. So we're going to measure this cup. When does the baking soda come in? We're not doing a volcano. Okay. Where did you get that tape measure?

All right. This is 12. Yeah. Where did you get that tape measure? That's a foot. Perfect. Wow. That's perfect.

It might be a little bit more because when there's liquid in the cups, it will give a little bounce to it. A little separation. 13 inches. Perfect. 14 inches. 14 inches. 14 inches for 32 cups.

Okay. So now we have to figure out how many times 14 inches. Wait, you just, this isn't a science experiment. You're just making us do math. Yeah. Science. Fuck this. Science experiment.

I'm not doing the math. So there's 14 inches in 32 cups. How about everyone just brings their own cups? How about everyone just brings their own cups? Cup snake. Everyone brings 32 cups. Can't bring cups into the game. Why not?

I don't know. It feels like it's cheating. I feel like there's no rules. All right. So let's figure out how many cups there are. How many cups there need to be in this thing? Again, you're just making me do math. 14 inches for 32 cups.

I refuse to do this math. I did the back of the napkin math. Okay, good. So you don't have to. I'm estimating about 15,000 cups to go around the entire stadium. So every person has to drink like seven beers. So everyone needs to drink one beer. If everyone can drink one beer.

All 400 of you got to drink 17,000 beers. No, I did yet. You're showing your ignorance that you haven't been to a game at Audi Field yet. Yeah. Ground zero for home field advantage in the XFL. Okay. So I think that they can do it. At the very least, they can break the world record, which as most as I can tell, is a

hundred yards at a cricket game that was delayed two hours for lightning. So what does this have to do with the on field experience for Cardale Jones not being the worst quarterback in the XFL? It just has to maybe, you know, you get the you get the atmosphere going. If all the eyes are in the stands, then maybe Cardale will play with a little bit less nerves. Oh, how about this? Instead of everyone bringing their own cup, everyone bring their own laser pointer and just shoot it in the eyes of the opposing quarterback.

Yeah. The battle Hawks. Do that. Yeah. Or maybe if you get drunk enough, then Cardale Jones will look good at quarterback again. That also works. Yeah. Win, win, win.

Yeah. Or just pop in the Ohio State, winning the national title and just remember when he was good. Our Tyree Jackson. You can pop him in. Yeah. Pop him in. All right.

So you are you going? I don't think so. Okay. But it's going to happen. I'm going to get the cup snake going around. I'm happy that Pep Hamilton is focusing on this. I might go. Pep Hamilton's focused on cup snakes, not.

He's keeping the boys. Cardale Jones being good. He's keeping the boys loose out there. That's fine. Um, okay. The other story we had with two other stories we're going to get to before we get to hot seat, cool throne. Then we have snacks and Jay Gruden on these are actually both stories for Hank.

So keep it calm. Coach K with an all time move. I'm actually going to compliment coach K because this was like the look at my thumb. Gee, you're dumb way of like grade school bullying. He said after the game, look at my thumb and then you slap him as a G. You're dumb. I've never heard of that before. Yeah. He's a little trick.

So I never got bullied or like, or like, yeah, put your hand if your hand's bigger than your face, then you're going to get, you know, sick and die and you slap him in the face. I just used to hit people in the balls. That's it. Capital of Thailand. Um, Thailand, actually, I just kicked the bench. I was trying to reach you.

Um, I've grossly underestimated how far away you thought that your legs were like, don't see him from Street Fighter. All right. Hit me from over there. So he did the look at your thumb. Gee, you're dumb because he said, don't criticize the players directed at me. And then he said, Oh, when you question my coaching, come into Cameron and look up at the ceiling, see if you should do that.

What does he have like journalists that are hanging from the rafters? I love that. I love that. I love that though. Like, Hey, don't come at my guys. Bring it all at me. And then when you do bring it at me, make sure you take a little look, see upstairs and see all those fucking banners flying around in Cameron.

So credit to coach K. He, I think we're going to get into very soon. If we're not there already, like the ornery, uh, like super angry at the media, just mad all the time. Coach K senile. We're entering. He's already there. Yeah. No, but he's going to fully get it.

And he's always had like a little bit of that in him. He was very good at directing it mostly towards referees and officials. Right. And then after the games, he would kind of like bite his tongue and pretend to be very friendly with the media sooner than later. We're going to see him on the sidelines and he's going to have like the Jim Bayhime piss thing going on. But no, I know, but with coach K, it's just going to be because he's angry and old.

He have nothing to do with medical issue. There is an element though, when you get up an age where you just, the filter is gone. And I think he's going to slowly lose the filter. And we're watching it right now with Joe Biden, like the filters gone, the filter. When the filter goes, he'll say whatever comes in his mind. So I think I'm going to enjoy the, uh, twilight phase of coach K having no filter and finally saying shit that he really has wanted to say for a very long time. Yeah.

I don't know what's wrong with any of that. Everything he saw, I liked it. It was a power move. It's similar to like the ton is a thing where everyone was getting mad at him for like coaching his players and the players are like, I like that. Listen, coach K is like, you want to be the best. You want to be number one. You got to talk like number one.

I'm the most unbiased Duke hater out there. I will tell you absolutely that I hate Duke. No matter what everything they do, I will spin into I hate Duke while also saying it's Duke's year while also saying it's Duke's year because it always is. I thought that was a funny move. I thought that was a funny move by coach because you can't win. You can't get past him when he brings it. It's another one of those little cliff lessons.

Yeah. They started with K's is a trap door is, yeah, exactly. He's like, no, talk to me. I'm the coach. I guess what? You motherfucker. How come I've won all these titles? He's rings and you have it.

He open hand slaps the reporter with all his rings. Like, how do you like that? Speaking of Joe Biden, I figure out how to fix voter turnout. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just on the I voted stickers, put little supreme labels on them. Bubble will be first in line. Bubble would vote in six states.

That's pretty good. If you got a Supreme I voted sticker, that is pretty good. That is pretty good because people also like for the Instagram, it would be look even cooler. Hell yeah. Yeah. Or just the zip ties the off the off white zip ties. Oh zip tie on the end of them. That would be cool. What do you mean? Just like just like arrest people and force them to vote No, no zip tie on the sticker. Yeah. Oh, I got you. Yeah, like like Brooks Capcom

Yeah, it's fast in Oregon Beaverton, Oregon, and everyone's like, oh man Where'd you get that or just promise Jordans at every single one and have it be like but have it be how the real Jordans are released And only one in five thousand million people get it if you made a sneakers app for like getting to be able to register to vote Then I'll be able to vote but then it'd be like oh sick when you won you'd think that's crazy I just won this voter registration. Yeah. Yeah, and then you really want to use it But no one would get it because the sneakers know but that's saying you just swear to God But you use it and people that have used it and been conditioning like it's been conditioned people to always lose at Being able to buy the sneakers, right? So when you win the voting one, you're like, I finally won, right?

That's the only thing no sneakers. It's the only thing you can win all the sneakers that I swear to God that sneakers app who I I would love to meet someone who actually won one. I've won one and like you know how many shoes I have yes It it felt like the biggest win of my life, and I've probably lost like hundreds. Yes I've entered every single one hundreds of times. I tried I swear to God when you lose you have to pay anything No, no, they just send you an email or they send you an alert in like you lost on your loser loser Fucking loser when you just win the opportunity to pay money for a shoe correct It gives you the opportunity to like share it on social media, too. Yeah, like hey, I'm a loser again. Yes. Yes It gives you a wolf. Yes. Yeah, exactly. And then the other story Hank

Barstow world comm slash PMT by the way, if you want to watch us you want to do our Tom Brady update? Sure I mean, it's a week. It's a daily update because every single day. This is now Clickbait for everyone. They can Matthew Barry wrote a whole story that basically said I was in Indy and Oh, yeah, I talked to everyone and everyone thinks he's not going to sign with the Patriots then Tom Curran said The smoke out in the Bay Area not a forest fire It's actually real that the 49ers are thinking about Parting ways with Jimmy G and signing Tom Brady now Hank, would you take that? What if what if they sent Jimmy G back to New England? Not bad. I

Don't want to think about living in a world where Tom Brady isn't on the Patriots I'm not going to consider it a possibility until it becomes a reality. So that is my official stance Hank look at me today. Look at me right now my last day imagine Tom Brady in a 49ers helmet You're thinking about it right now Boomer would go Boomer would be part of the deal that would be the Chris Berman singularity. He would he would be he would get back to ground zero I also have been reading though that because of the new CBA dealer whatever that the Patriots and Tom Brady like still haven't even Talked yet because they have to figure out the deal before they can figure out how they're going to structure Brady's deal

So it's all just bullshit. That's that's my understanding the situation. Okay. When is the free agency start March 13th? I'm actually kind of sick of it. I already have sick of free agency. Yeah, I'm sick of the Tom Brady free agency I'm more I'm a fan of the legal tampering window. Yeah, I just like that peeping Tom the fact where you can just reach in and start tampering Is it March 13th? I want to say I don't know why I threw that out in my head But March 13th sounds like it could be the date, but I'm I'm ready for a resolution So then we can talk about whether he stays, you know That then becomes how many more years or whether he leaves then it becomes. Whoa. This is so weird March 18th is a start of the 2020 league year. Fuck with so long

The unofficial but true start of free agency is the legal tampering period, which is March 16th Okay, so March 16th is when you can tamper with your favorite players. Got it And I've I've been painted to this James Winston thing. Oh, yeah, apparently Bruce Arians is ready to move on Well, it's not Tom or Peyton. It's not Tom or Peyton So the sabermatrix are off the window on there I got sent the most fire photoshop of James Winston in a Patriots jersey today. It is sick Oh, and guess what Matthew Barry when he ranked he said I'd rank the non-patriots teams likely to get him in this order Tampa Bay Bucks one

According to Matthew Barry. Yes, I don't know how like what how much he knows. He's just a fantasy guy I mean, yeah, well, that's a fantasy. Yeah, his fantasy is the fancy But it would make sense because Bruce Arians did say he he prescribes to analytics Subscribes to analytics if a quarterbacks named Tom, they're great and he does like older quarterbacks, too He's kind of like a cougar hunter. What's the male equivalent of a cougar? Oh I think there's a name for it mountain lion Rob low sex panther. Hello. Okay. Hello. Yeah, or Rob a robber is it a Paul Rudd a Rhino a rhino. I know I know guys. So you actually look that up. Yeah. Oh, wow

You have some interesting autocompletes from now on. Okay, Bruce Arians is definitely a rhino hunter Yes, because you like Carson Palmer love Peyton Manning. He likes these old guys He's basically a dentist from Minnesota. Exactly. Is that where it's from Cecil Cecil the lion got killed by Remember that remember simpler times before the whole world we thought it was gonna burn and there was disease everywhere Yeah, we were just pissed at a dude who killed the fucking lion. Well, Cecil was a Universally beloved. Oh, listen, I was team Cecil. Yeah for sure But I'm just saying it seemed like those were simpler days and then the Jimmy John's guy. Yeah, also went big game honey I'm pretty sure Papa John drove over several endangered species in his Corvette

Papa bless. Can I get a Papa bless Papa bless? Thank you But yeah, I would I would love to see James go to New England Tom Brady in a bucks uniform would look stupid It's crazy, which is why I kind of hope that it happens. It almost seems like it's so beneath Tom Brady to be a Tampa Bay Bucket, doesn't it? It is Yeah, but he probably is like I want to play a home Super Bowl Tampa's got Super Bowl next year Get that storyline going. Mm-hmm. That's a great storyline that makes no sense. No Either way, I'm ready for yeah I'm ready for free agency to start because we're in this weird spot. We're waiting for March Madness

We're waiting for free agency. We're waiting for NBA playoffs Stanley Cup playoffs It's this weird like no man's land where we get to just watch senile coach K get mad at people Mm-hmm, which I don't I don't hate that part, but I'm ready for some action It's kind of fun though like his he's been getting angry and angry over the years It is like watching your grandfather. Yeah descend into this madness. It's lost it Um, all right before we get to hot seat cool throne a quick. Oh a quick note. So obviously there was tragedy in Nashville on Monday night with the tornado our guys busting with the boys. They got a shirt up

So busting with the boys Taylor Luan will Compton. They have a podcast But they also have a shirt that is going to help people who lost their homes. So go buy it right now And we are also brought to you by hot seat cool throne is brought to you by Bud light seltzer. So we're we have our Bud light seltzer fridge a fridge right here We were drinking some Bud light seltzers earlier today Try it for yourself and see why great tasting Bud light seltzer is putting every other hard seltzer on the hot seat I actually I actually tried the black cherry in the mango D Licious, that's all I gotta say about that Bud light seltzer hot seat cool throne Hank

My hot seat is Randy Orton Okay, RKO He RKO'd Sting's wife last night. What's on live TV? That's just I mean I saw the clip It's a hilarious unbelievable clip Sting the performer the wrestler. Oh, I was gonna say like she's always having sex with Sting He doesn't take tantric stuff, but he RKO'd another man's wife on live TV. I feel like that It's got to put you on the hot seat in some way shape or form King That's like the WWE version of Prima Nacta. Yeah, I mean it's like I mean he is the king of RKO

But it's like you even though you're watching a clip with Randy Orton You're just not expecting it when it's like when he RKO's wife. It's like yes, always electric How could you sir? Then my cool throne is guys being in their feelings So it's cool. It's cool to be in your feelings because Mike Tyson Oh, yeah Did a podcast interview where he was like super honest super open about how he used to be a killer that guy's not there anymore Didn't he cry because he was scared of his former self which makes perfect sense because his former self was sometimes

I feel yeah He's like sometimes I feel like a bitch because I don't want that person to come out because if he comes out All hell is coming with him Well, he also is basically like talking about how it's like he doesn't want to fight Tyson, right? He used to be a killer, but he's like dealing with the fact that like I'll be scared inside No, but he's scared that other people are gonna fight Tyson again No, but I think he's scared of old Tyson the reason I'm crying because I'm not that person no more and I miss him And it's not funny at all. It's not cool. Like I'm a tough guy. It's just that I hate that guy. I'm scared of him

Yeah, that's kind of dead now. That wasn't easy that guy didn't want to leave He wasn't leaving easy He fought screamed and cried and scratch all the way till he died, you know Oh, so Tyson and that's not about himself. Yeah Well, he's also saying that he feels like a bitch because he's no longer old Tyson, right? Like the memory of old Tyson is like hey Haunting him like hey pussy do something about it But yeah, he got really he got really emo about it. He was crazy to watch but at the same time

It was like it's probably good that he's handling his feelings by talking about them instead of in other more destructive ways Absolutely being in your feelings in your fields. All right, fellas. Tell us about we're good We're gonna cry at some point this year, right? We're crying and we're in dresses in 2020 We'll just do the crying part. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, what is your hot seat cool throne PFT? You know in many cultures males wear dresses all the time. It's not a masculine thing or a feminine thing How many cultures Scottish a lot of Scottish Scottish go to Central Africa a lot of countries do that That's right. Scottish kilts. I might get in kilt life No, not the more masculine. It's the most masculine dress possible. Hmm. I don't know any farther

So one yeah, why not do it all my hot seat is golden Tate Oh, what happens golden Tate got an endorsement deal with our good friends at Bud Light This is not an ad by the way. I was gonna do this anyways Wow, he had endorsement deal with Bud Light and then Darren Ravel snitched on him on Twitter He also chugged so slow because tough tough chug in the commercial golden Tate did a little thing for Bud Light Took out a Bud Light beer drank it pretty slowly faster than Aaron Rodgers would but still everyone Yeah, but still relatively slowly and then Darren Ravel quote tweeted it and said I go and take an advertisement endorsement deal with Bud Light the NFL prohibits its players from drinking beers or alcohol in any commercial for them

So Darren Narke down immediately instead of the worst. We got barbecue. What's their name barbecue Becky? Oh Darren is barbecue brandy. He's the worst and we're gonna talk about it with snacks, but he's the worst He ruins everything. Yes ruin the fun for golden Tate. So that's tough. It sucks that he likes to do that, too Yeah, my so he's well actually in real life. Mm-hmm walking. Well actually guy. Mm-hmm My cool throne is my liver. So on the other side of that coin. I'm doing sober January dry January sober October sober October for the next two weeks and Except on weekends obviously and if I'm gonna be helping to form a Thursday count as a weekend. It depends on Thursday game Yeah, uh-huh you get a count and you buzzed on Thursday. What if an XFL game goes into overtime on a Monday?

It's not a weekend. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's not a week. I want to say what if a game gets rained out There's a rainout game. Yeah, I think that that supersedes and then the Monday game goes over time Yeah, so well, there are also some conference tournaments this this Thursday or Friday, right? Yeah, we start Verizon League There you go. So I'm doing sober October through the end of the week And Gonna stop once meaningful basketball games start occurring again I'm giving my body in the reset button on the oliver right now. Nice. Nice. I'm gonna feel great on the other side I'm gonna support you in this even though I saw you

Yeah, but then I caught myself and I said wait a second. I'm doing dry January car yourself. All right My hot seats is handshakes Because oh no wait my hot seat is Twitter. Sorry my hot seat is Twitter because Tom is oh, did you see Tom is oh, he's going off You need to see this PFT because you love Tom is oh I do Tom is oh it has a very contentious Relationship with Twitter and I'm you would say that as a Tom is oh, I'm thinking he's going to like try to submarine Twitter because Earlier in the season he said that anyone who says anything mean he says if there's any Michigan State people out there that are Using some of my players on that frickin Twitter. I'm sick of it

And then he also said this past week he Forbade anyone from going on Twitter and complimenting their guys this week So he said I would ask all Twitter people which Twitter people so people people all you Twitter people out there Don't compliment our guys this week. Don't insult them. Just let them go So he hates Twitter and I think he will he will take it down instead of complimenting March It's January February is oh, he's going to report any like actual compliments of his players to Twitter for being harassment So if you want to compliment a Michigan State player if you want to say something nice about caches You you don't go to his Twitter account

You go to Tom is oh his Twitter account right and you tweet at Tom is oh and say hey I was going to say this to your player. I'm as though WN But I'm saying this to you instead. Mm-hmm get him go after him get Tom is oh, he's yeah I don't I love when when coaches Tell like fans. It's the next Saban the rat poison. Don't put anything in their ears. Don't say anything about them All right, my cool throne is Howie Mandel Liam's guy Bubba's guy. Mm-hmm. He's cool throne because like he's been ahead of the times not handshaking with anyone ever The a10 came out. They have their tournament in Brooklyn. They have ended the handshake line after games

Oh my god, what are they going to do in the hockey playoffs every NHL team is going to come down with the corona virus Because their sportsmanship is so strong. I like that the handshake line like that, you know The guys will be playing bumping up against each other Sweating on each other breathing on each other eating on each other But do not shake hands after the game making out with each other will be too much So how I Mandel you are ahead of your time this bumps. Do you think how I Mandel is going outside right now? No, how I Mandel is he's sealed her medically in his like office He's got he bought one of those vacuum sealers online

And they tried to just dive through it one of the ones that you put like a salmon in to keep fresh He's gotta be he's trying to take his entire body through a vacuum seal And he's actually very susceptible because he has not been sick and I assume a really long time and he's got that soul patch Listen, how I Mandel my friend you are hairless all over your body But the the fact that you lack the commitment to shave off that soul patch is gonna be what gets you brother Yeah, won't stop the seal that thing is just a Petri dish of corona virus So I was actually under the assumption like what you just said that it's the beard catches a bunch of disease and stuff It's actually for the face mask. It's just a seal

You don't get a seal if you have a beard No, but if you have a if you have a beard then stuff gets stuck in it all the time I don't think it I think it really is there they're they're saying no, I'm not buying that face mask I'm not buying that you're your face right now. We're not gonna face mask just bacteria everywhere. Okay. You want to lick it? No, we'll give it a lick. I actually I am I am standing up right now and saying I respect corona virus I'm done disrespecting. I'm not I'm putting a respect. I still think they're a fraud. They've only one on the road They haven't I am respecting corona virus. I'm not I'm sorry. They've only one at home They haven't you listen just because you can win in China and Italy doesn't mean that you can come over to the big boy United States

Okay, Washington. No, they haven't yeah, they have six people died a Washington state. Yeah, that's true No, I'm not talking about Washington DC the DC defenders will defend that's right We're safe. That's Audi field is the safest place to be that's ground zero where you can everyone get to Audi field It's basically what's the what get to Winterfell? Yeah, no Kingslanding ever get to Kingslanding. I don't know fuck that show. All right, let's get to our interviews We have what are you mad now? Let's get to our interviews. We will run Jay Gruden first then snacks Afterwards before we get to Jay Gruden Lucy nicotine gum if you're looking for a boost of nicotine that you can enjoy anywhere

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Go to Lucy.co and use promo code take to get 20% off your first order This product contains nicotine nicotine is an addictive substance. Okay, here he is Jay Gruden Okay, we now welcome on very special guest it is Jay Gruden Former head coach of the Washington Redskins now offensive coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars Good to finally have you on we've been circling each other for a while honor to be on this show. Yeah, okay So we said right before we started that we were going to maybe bust your balls a little because we had Doug Moron on earlier and you said that's fine

We can do that. So I'll just start with one of my tweets that I found from 2014 I just said Jay Gruden creeps me out Thanks, I don't know why I have no idea what that's about. Why would you take? Why would you tweet that? I have no idea what I do creeps you out. I don't know. I I really don't know you probably didn't do anything So I apologize for that. Okay. No, yeah, I apologize accepted, but it's good to have you on if that's the worst tweet Why is Jay Gruden always out of breath? I'm not always out of pattern. I said in 2014 as well. I don't know what it was Listen beating the Bears or something. I don't know what happened. I think we both both big kid

I think tweeted a picture of you wearing your headset kind of weird on Monday night football. Oh, yeah, remember that. Yeah Yeah, I have trouble the headset. Yeah, sometimes it should be on my left ear right here, and then I can't find my glasses So yeah, I said and I am a Redskins fan. I grew up Redskins fan It's it's I'm died in the wool purposely watching this Redskins Dolphins game should automatically kill you within 24 hours Like the ring that was from us from this year. So yeah, we're getting there. I'm getting everything out of my sister Yeah, so yeah, I was already on a golf course on that Sunday. Okay, so let's start with there So obviously this past year has been a little weird for you because you got fired by the Redskins midseason You're now with the Jaguars. How's it been like you had a few months where you just weren't yeah watching football

And it was football season. Yeah, I was a normal human living a normal life, you know playing a little bit of golf taking some trips Really kind of enjoyed it there for the first three or four weeks and then you kind of wake up And you're like what am I gonna do today? I mean if the weather's bad, you know what you do I take a 30-minute drive go work out. So I'd have to drive 30 minutes back. Maybe grab some lunch, you know, but They started to stack up you were trying to figure out what to do But stay pretty busy enjoy the time off, but itching to get back in. Yeah, you look like you're in good shape right now You look rest. Yeah, you look like a little other compliment. Yeah, you look low-key jacked a little bit Like you could put me in a headlock right now. That's right. Good. I just twist your nipples another bad tweet. I might do it

Yeah, that's right. That's right So I I sent you that video of us talking to Gardner Minshew at the Super Bowl We gave him the word of advice like you like it when players twist your nipples a little bit to Shawn Jackson You know that a few years ago. Um, it looked like you were really you were having fun with it at the time So don't be surprised if Gardner just reached over. It only happened one time by some milk Yeah, I did knock out to Shawn and punish him for that. Yeah, yeah Have you have you talked to Nick foals and Gardner Minshew and gotten to sit with them? Oh, we can't talk any football right now, but I was able to talk and say hello and introduce myself

It's unfortunate. We can't talk ball right now. But yeah, I think you know, it's it's gonna be a process You know both these guys bring something interesting to the table Nick's played a lot of big games want a lot of big games Gardner's got the excitement level and Played great as a rookie. So competition will be fierce. Yeah Well, I think Gardner listens to this show So if you want to if you wanted to say anything to him you could tell it to us Yeah, and then he'd hear it about football really. Yeah. Yeah, so if anything yeah, yeah pops That's where you got plenty of time. Okay. Yeah, you want to try on a RV right now traveling across the country true

Right true. He definitely is I Like hearing the sound of your voice because it sounds like football you and your brother both have that Ohio Where abouts in Ohio is from northeast Ohio? Well, yeah, I kind of grew up in Indiana. I was born Ohio But I infant when we moved grew up in Bloomington, Indiana South Bend, Indiana And then went to high school in Tampa. There you go You've got that that football voice and the first time we sat down with coach McVeigh We were like you you try to sound like a grudon sometime you grew up around Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got that trademarked. Yes, he can't have it

Do you do you ever like do you remember first meeting him and he sounded completely normal and then it's slowly Morphed into a grudon. You know talk a lot when I first met him He's really young he was like John's a little office manager kind of just typed up scripts and all that stuff He came up the hard way now He went on a fast track and did a great job, but didn't talk a whole lot when I first met right so a guy like that When you see him and you meet him and you see what he's doing Do you have any inkling that like this guy's head coach material? Can you tell even when a guy comes in the door the first day?

You never really can't tell till they get in front of players and how they Interact with players and how they get across what they need to get across in a professional manner to get the players to do What they're supposed to do and Sean's great at that. You know, he's he's a very young looking Individual but once he talks football The players have a lot of respect for him because his knowledge is great You gain respect with the knowledge that you have and the ability to get across to the players, you know I coach Chris Cooley Chris Cooley has lots of great things to say about him And he moved on from tight end coach to obviously offensive coordinator me people said I was crazy tired in this young offensive coordinator

Yeah, now they say I'm an idiot. They are there if you're letting them go. Yeah You guys are that is right. Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of funny that way. So now you're down Jacksonville We were talking to Doug Marona earlier. He said that one of the first things you mentioned was we need to get a fullback I I'm a big fullback. I were fullback a pro fullback podcast Mm-hmm, and it seems like you want to introduce that wrinkle Back to Jacksonville because they used to have what go hand and back in the day Have you thought about who that individual might be? No, no, there's some free agents out there You can look at there's some guys in the draft possibly, you know

It's not a nests necessity to have a fullback But that part of your offense when you take that out of your game, you know, there's some pretty good plays that you're missing You know a play action passes are excellent. Obviously the running game can improve a little bit But to have a good fullback goes hand-in-hand. You better have a good tight end. It can block the edge as well So, you know, we're trying to figure out The necessary pieces to our offense so we can come up and we can really have a field really good grasp But where we want to go fullback tight end to tight ends three tight ends one tight You know what I mean? So we're still in infantry stages, but we'll figure it out

How do you pick up new wrinkles to your offense? Do you just do through watching college through watching other coaches like what? Yeah, both both really, you know It's fun when you go and you start to evaluate these players for the draft I always got an idea real something. I haven't seen before and I click them on there and I Store them and and I always go back to them to help just try to spark a thought and then obviously watching teams that are successful Watch what the 49ers did this year with their fullback for instance and watch obviously Patrick Mahomes play with Kansas City I always like to watch Sean because we have similar type things, but he's branched off and done some different things himself So there's about seven or eight teams that I like to watch and study

Come up with good ideas. Mm-hmm. So if it was a battle royale You and well your brother and Sean wait wait. Let me finish actually Yeah, you're right because it was gonna be your brother and Sean versus you and deuce. Oh And deuce I feel like deuce is like you're you're like attack. I'm gonna get how are you gonna get deuce out of the ring? He's I mean I Rarely get star struck, but when we were walking through the lobby last year at the combine It was this very lobby. Mm-hmm. It was like 9 o'clock p.m. And deuce was grinding film just by himself at a table I was like, oh my god, that's deuce Gruden. That's incredible. That was like the might take John

I might take deuce's brother now. He's an MMA fighter. Really? He's three and oh right now. He's he's he's jacked up, too So I was I was doing a little research on your family and it's it's you and John, but then you have another brother Yeah, who's a doctor? Yeah, you're smart sheep of the family like what's up with that? Runaway to join the circus grew up. I was the youngest brother of three and those two guys You couldn't draw up to exact opposite human beings to be brothers. Really? I mean really Jim is smart John was a jock and they you know, they butted heads a lot and argued and fought and I was always a mediator I just want to play, you know

But ultimately they figured out and got along and everybody gets along good So does he watch all your guys games as he come in, you know coming see games during the season or see kind Yeah, he comes up. He's come before he's pretty busy himself though Yeah, but he got up to the Giants game and he came to a home game for me last year And so he tries to come as much as he can that'd be cool if he had like some random plays that he gave you He was like the Gruden whisperer because he's a what is he a doctor at Cornell, right? He's radiologist. Yeah Jay just gave you this look like yeah, are you stalking me? Yeah, what's you know everything about my family? I think yeah, he has the best place

He gives him to you so if we can get to those plays We didn't you play board games all the time college football the right don't roll the dice and pick plays of stuff And Jim and I you play that all the time. He's pretty good play caller. Okay. Are you are you playing against the Raiders this year? No That'd be awesome Damn and your brother could show up wearing like a half visor half Jacksonville half black. I can wear my headset all crooked Yeah, that'd be awesome. Did you watch hard knocks? I did watch part of it Yeah, what do you think I thought it's pretty good. You know, we're in training camp as well

So I could like after meeting the stuff I'd cook it on. It was pretty good Did you think your brother was maybe like kind of turning it up a little for the cameras? He wouldn't do that. He doesn't play to the cameras. Of course he did That's not actually that's the way he is really yeah coaches a lot of energy a lot of passion and great motivator So yeah, he's way is was it ever awkward when he was in media and he had to call your games and it's like I never listen to games I don't listen to media. Okay. I really don't I try not to and unless it comes my attention It's somebody says something really bad that I have to address or show something really bad But yeah, I just try to do my whole thing and it's a nice way to live just to be kind of like not listen to go crazy

Okay, yeah, but I have done before is really bad now some of the articles I've scrolled down and read the comments Right those things. I want to meet some of these comment writers can't do that Unbelievable comments if you have you ever read the pro football talk comment section unbelievable the worst place on the plan Absolutely like you write those things probably mass murders psycho probably people that should be locked up. I'm pretty funny though Tricks me as guys who are like over compensating for something maybe height or whatever it may be You want to be humbled read a comment. Yeah Great quote. Yeah, I'm actually gonna Because it'll be a comment underneath it. Yeah. All right, so PFT mentioned that you

Look good and you do look good. You've been working out. Who said that PFT Oh, look good. You look you look like you've been working out But you did once rank your own body as a 32 out of a hundred Where are you at right now? From about 32 out of a hundred. Yeah, that's what you said Direct quote from you. He didn't read it in the media. Yeah, you didn't read in the media I used to be quite chunky. Yeah, it used to be chunky I had a spell, you know, I had a couple bad knees and I was eating

I wasn't able to act exercise and you sit in the office all day You're watching film and not motivated at all to do any type of exercise So I put on a few pounds and then lost it all. So now what are you like a 40 out of a hundred there? You know 45. I don't rank myself. You did though. What do you think I am you ranked yourself at 32? 35 now. Yeah, I'd say you're 60 60 out of a hundred. Really? Yeah, who's a hundred? Yeah, uh DK backcalf. Yeah, that would be good one Aaron Donald. Oh, yeah No, you gotta be wait if he he just has like one weekend where he just eats juice or drinks juices He'll have a six back 52 though

53 yeah, yeah, you're on a scale as far as 52 year olds go you're probably like a 70 you're doing well Yeah, I'm another 52 year old Who else is 52? It's a weird age weird age, man. They've poured away. Do you feel weird? It's a weird age. Yeah, cuz you're in a you're in a You're not old. Hey, but you're old old feel this young to feel this old but too old Yeah, young things like 60 is old 52 is like where are you man? Yeah, I figure I got a few years left where I get old and then you look like that old Stalker sitting around looking at you know what I mean? Yeah, I have my fun now

I think right right you're right at that age where it's like yeah 52. Okay, you know Whatever you got a little left maybe a little left. Yeah When you were with the Redskins and Kirk Cousins was like hey Can I get an office so that I can sit in an office and pretend to work all day where you like come on Kirk? Come on man. You're late. It's necessary for the quarterback Cuz a lot of times they come in early and if you don't have the office space Right, there's nowhere for them to go watch film. So he wants to come in earlier stay after practice Well, we have to watch film and

prepare for the next day or what have you so We set up a little cubby for him and I'm glad he's in there watching it Right, I'll be doing that than playing a video game. Did you see how he grilled steaks though? I did not see that ever go to a barbecue at his house. No, we'll never invite it Kirk you never invited me to a barbecue Kirk Colt ever invite you to a barbecue. I don't know comment Oh, no, I never never I didn't really co-mingle with the players outside of work I guarantee you McCoy's barbecue is a lot better than Kirk Cousins when he cooks a steak He puts aluminum foil underneath it. Yeah, yeah, but Colt man. He drinks like milk on past your eyes milk

He's done some weird stuff. I don't think I'd go over to like that. I do love Colt McCoy though Yeah, like a both. Yeah, I love both. Yeah, I like a lot of players like coach But Colt's a great guy very competitive and you know, it's just a shame that he had a couple opportunities and got injured Unfortunately, yeah, when you were when you were coaching the Redskins you had Rob Ryan and Jim Tom Sula. Yeah defense staff. What did that meeting room smell like? Doritos and pop tarts and chicken wings. No Italian subs now, they were great guys, you know, I they were they were great They got along very well and I didn't really go in there and smell their meeting rooms

I kind of had to work with the offense a little back turn the defense over to those guys I felt pretty good about it. Manusky and those cats. Yeah. All right. So here's another quote for you You were once called the MJ of Arena football Do you remember that? No, I don't okay. So you were called my Jordan of Arena football now when I was looking at this quote I was like wow They were calling Jay Gruden the the greatest of all time. It was a little different It was when you made your comeback and everyone was saying is he gonna be like Michael Jordan on the Wizards

So but you still were called the Michael Jordan of Arena football at one point. Yeah, I mean we Won four championships of six years of the player. I mean dynasty Then I came back to play and and I broke my leg in half the guy that I cut with the Predators when I was head coach Was playing for another teams I played and I threw a little pass out in the flat with standing there Stap my leg in half. Yeah, this is a purpose. Yeah, brutal That's tough. Now you were ranked the number four AFL player of all time. So you're on the Mount Rush Yeah, I'm not very happy. I should have been at least three. Yes, who's in front of you I believe George of France touchdown Eddie Brown Antonio Brown's dad is number one

Okay, very Wagner's number two, and I think the France is three out four. That's bullshit. Yeah, but I mean I'm out of Kurt Warner though. Yeah, there you go. You like that Kurt. Yeah, is there a Hall of Fame? There is a somebody's trunk. Yeah, it's really done. It's over I put a lot of work in it. I love that league. It was a lot of fun and We're able to compete and build people's careers and give some people some money Unfortunately didn't get it done as far as longevity. It's a cool. I mean, it's a it was a cool league to watch I remember it was such kind of like a novelty when you turn it on and be like what's going on there There's a blast. Yeah, people just throwing it up and down the points, you know points points points

And then that weird the weird extra point and field goal the skinny. Yeah, I love you. Yeah, I love that part So you actually could be eligible for the football hall of it pro football hall of fame It doesn't say NFL hall of fame true. It's professional football hall of fame We talked to David Baker about this. So there should be a wing for the AFL in there. Uh-huh. Yeah You have your bust in there. It would just be like you're let your shattered leg a cast of your shadow Yeah, be in the closet somewhere next to the coffee machine. Yeah Hey as you're getting your coffee if you look over there in a corner by the trash can there's the arena league hall of fame There's jay Gruden wearing the Michael Jordan wizards

He's looking great folks Do you still hate meetings? What do you mean? That was a quote as well. I read up. I got all these quotes What kind of meetings? It's just meetings. I'm not a big meeting. I hate meetings. There we go. So I was right Yeah, I hate meetings, too. They're necessary. They're part of it, but I just don't like meetings Yeah, what do you like you obviously prefer practice to meetings? I would like practice like getting out there walking through practice I mean meetings you got to do your installs and all that But the teams of the people that over meet team meet and just want to talk all the time, you know There's only so many things you can say we got to teach our offense. We got to practice it. Let's go

I'd imagine you players appreciate that and you as a coach where it's like, hey I'm not gonna be a could have been a negative too because I didn't have a ton of team meetings and all that stuff But I did you know, I dress team a couple times a week and night before game and I was more of an individually Individual based coach. I like to try to get guys one-on-one and talk to them and Because everybody's different, you know what motivates you doesn't motivate you, right? So food but there are some team or values that you have to install on your team and still in your team and try to do That the best you could I liked it. I think I'd like to play for jay Gruden. Thanks. Yeah, absolutely So when you're when you're going into your team meeting though that you have to do is that was a Friday meeting?

Yeah, we usually have one You know Monday after the game and then maybe a Friday and then a Saturday night So the Saturday night meeting when you're going there, you're like, I got to get these guys pumped up Do you like sit down and prepare anything or you just get up there and let they try to come up a few talking points But again, it was not a 10 minute 20 minute speech It was about three or four because these guys they've had a long week of practice Saturday night They want to get to the rooms eat their snack and go to bed. You know what I mean? So didn't try to we're not going to run through the tunnel Saturday night or run through the tunnels Sunday at 1 o'clock

You know what I mean? So, uh, just want to touch a few points that we talked about during the week and Something maybe motivational something fun Let him go to bed. We've had both Harbaugh brothers on yeah, not had your brother on but since we're talking to you right now And hopefully someday we have John on was there ever a point where as a younger brother You got stronger than John and you could maybe beat him in like a wrestling match or yeah John was a John was a strong He was one of those really stocky guys and lifted weights all the time and I was more of a tall gangly skinny guy So he had his way with me growing. He's three and a half years older than me

All right, but probably you know he put in his book, you know pride my freshman year college sophomore year college I started a little stronger. We had a fight in the front yard Ended all the fights you won well, I Did good enough to where there was never gonna be another fight. I like that That is all he went or Lou. It's just yeah, if the little brother can beat up the big brother then fight stop It's like now. I don't want to do this no more fight Yeah, we haven't really had any ties or we had to get a fight anymore any we get along pretty good

Okay, so then let me ask you this because I asked us to both Harbaugh brothers when you guys are maybe together Family outings whatever it may be holidays. Do you ever give him a look like I'd kick your fucking ass? No, no, I would never do that He's been really good to me in my coaching career I would not be sitting here with all the opportunities. I've had without John's tutelage. Okay, but sometimes I mean, you don't you don't have to give the look as long as you know, right? It sounds like since that moment in your front yard. He knows he knows yeah I mean, yes, we're both old neither one of us want to fight but

But I also know what bothers him and he knows what bothers me and we try not to do things that bother each other Right very cordial and very peaceful. Okay. I wanted to turn the heat up a little bit I'd do some things that agitate what what's one thing that would get him one thing Yeah, I can name about three thousand like a gum and crack it pop the gum You know what I mean? I could chew with my mouth open. I could breathe really loud I could do a lot of things I could laugh like really loud and annoying. You know, I could do a lot of you know Yeah, but you would never do any of that never no no because then you have to kick his ass Yeah, no

We're not around each other enough to try to agitate each other we try to just talk ball talk about the kids and all that stuff I love it. So are you putting spider-to-y banana in the playbook? It's always in you need full back for it I have full back for it though. You can motion tight end back to do it. But yeah, that's true Yeah, I think our touchdown against the Eagles our first touchdown here was a Vernon Davis on a spider, too He's a little bluffed and ran a flat route jumped over a guy scored a touchdown on that. That's right That was probably one really wide banana. It was a little crossing route. Yeah, that was the best play of the year for the reskins Yeah, thanks. Yeah. No, that's under your tutelage tutelage. Yeah, so what's what's more impressive? Do you think winning four AFL titles or actually lasting five complete seasons or five seasons as a Redskins head coach?

I'm always proud to win a championship but when you get to the NFL and We're able to be a head coach of National Football League any season where you can last the entire season a good season I felt pretty good about our accomplishments where we started and where we grew Unfortunately, it didn't last, you know, we had some unfortunate things happen to us injury-wise and didn't the other day It was time for change. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I got one last question It's a Seeky question promo code take you get $10 off go to a Jaguars game This year $10 off

So I would love to hear your take on the Joe burrow. It was overblown But the Joe burrow does he does he not want to go to Cincinnati you coach there. Do you think that? Players like deciding. Oh, I don't want to go there. You think that's ridiculous Or do you think there is a merit in some organizations? Maybe not being you know as great as others You know what? I think every situation is different and every player has their own reasons for doing what they do personally I believe you're drafted there. We have a draft for a reason and they're number one for a reason They should have the their chance at the best player in a draft. That's what makes the NFL great and equal So you feel like you have a chance to win every year because you're getting

Your pick of the litter if you have a bad year So personally, I think he should have to go and play Cincinnati is a great place I coach there for three years. Mike Brown's a heck of an owner. He's fair. He's loyal And you know Zach Taylor's a good coach and I think if they get AJ Green back who wouldn't want to go to throw to AJ Green, you know Right. Yeah. Yeah, my very last question is I don't know if you saw the Redskins pregame reports That would come out every single week But Larry Michael would have that board up and be offense defense Special teams and he check which team had the advantage and the fourth category was skin tangibles

That was like the X factor in your mind What is a skin tangible and were you feeding him descriptions of it skin tangible? You know, I think You guys always won the skin tangible call. It's funny if he checks the other team on a skin tangible at our home place We'd have a problem, right? You know, I think hustle effort Protect them the football create and turnovers, you know things that may not show up in a stat Receivers blocking for your running back, you know finishing games finishing drives physicality Might not be just a tackle. It might be a physical tackle, right?

Said that tone setter tone setting plays, you know that and did you get those tone setting plays like by having like when the equipment guy Would stir the Gatorade around with a styrofoam cups. Would that give a little skin tangibles into the Gatorade? Yeah, did you ever see that? Yeah, that was another I think that was the exact same game I think all these mean things that were bringing up about yeah, we're just from that one Monday night football. Yeah, yeah One last last question. What's your favorite? I know you kind of like the horses. I do too. What's your favorite track in America? That's easy for me. I've been in Del Mar Okay, you know Saratoga for me is not even close. Okay, you've been to Keeneland. I've been to Keeneland. I love Keeneland I love Keeneland too. Yeah, I just like to go

You know I go to Saratoga and I used to go for the opening weekend and I'd get up early and I'd go for a jog and hang out with the trainers and watch them train. That's my favorite part of it Yeah, that's so much going to the track, but this the whole Setup in the old school field of the town. Yes, there's so much history there And it's such a beautiful place that time of year. It's gorgeous awesome And it is do that really I mean I love it I I think about that often like that, you know someday. I want to retire I'm just gonna live in a town where there's only there only a couple months a year though

Yeah, you know 5 30 in the morning go out there and watch these horses work out. I mean, it's beautiful They're yeah being up close to a racehorse pretty man They take such good care of them too people talk about the how you know how they're mistreated these these thoroughbreds are treated like kings Yeah, better than we are Yeah, you're talking about like just practice again. You just like going around and being around things that are practicing Yeah, I love talking to the trainers too because they have their issues too with all the horses that they have You know some horses don't perform like they should some horses get a little injured They can't get them off the injury port, you know what I mean?

And then what do you do with them to try to put them in a claiming race to get rid of them You try to keep build them up and spend a time with them. So it's pretty cool. It's a you know, it's a great sport man It's a lot of work involved. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. All right. Well Jay, thank you so much. Thank you You're welcome on any time. We'd love to have you and your brother on maybe have you guys fight just wrestle just for us For charity. Yeah, charity charity charity. We'll do charity, but yeah, there's been awesome. Thank you so much Hey, thanks for having me appreciate it. Thanks, man That interview with Jay Green was brought to you by Zip recruiter. That's right Zip recruiter is the smartest way to hire It's tough to find qualified candidates. It takes a long time. There's too many applicants sometimes

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Often challenge my teammates every day To shoot competitions and sometimes I win and sometimes they end up being very competitive So they we challenge each other and I just said if I got the opportunity I had to make one and I knew the crowd were going to rub so it was it was great Okay, so the proverbial turd in the punch bowl that is Darren Ravel tweeted out that you actually took four shots and missed the first three If that's true, you can say it's true, but then we're just going to pretend that never happened. It was true, but I Don't remember to make from last night. Hell yeah, that's all we remember to we don't see we didn't see the misses So you're one for one on the videos that I've seen are you sure and shoot a shoot shoot a shoot shoot a shoot, right?

Absolutely, and then so after you hit that shot my favorite part Was you getting back on defense and leaving the screen or leaving like the outside of the screen for just about a half Second and then just staying back down and trying to get another basket real quick Were you was that part of the plan where you just like hey, I'm not gonna go back on defense Just get me the ball. I scored buckets. I don't play D. Actually actually it was a When I was on there, I said Man, I just scored. Let me get the crowd into it. So I actually went on the other end talking to the fans So I was turning the fans up on the other side saying like this my house

It's my house So I was kind of getting them into it and everybody was kind of embracing it and kind of just you know saying the same thing Oh man, it's such an awesome moment. I love these like this is college basketball right around now when you have senior nights And guys get in the games that have been doing the work behind the scenes. There's nothing better I also saw that you wear number 35. That's a you know modest to Kevin Durant the slim reaper as we call him Did he shout you out afterwards he actually He actually shouted me out on Twitter He said I see you snipe and it was that was kind of like a unreal moment

I couldn't actually believe it. I actually got a response from Kevin Durant and I also tagged him on my Instagram And I told a lot of people to kind of tag him because I was trying to you know get an in-person I was trying to meet him actually because he's my favorite play. I actually been following since Texas so it was kind of like a It was a great moment to see him actually shot me out on Twitter So there's a lot of people coming in on my Instagram Added him trying to give me to get an opportunity, you know to meet Kevin Durant I love it since you're more viral than Kevin Durant is right now since he's been taking the year off

You should just tell people hey everybody go give my man Kevin Durant a follow on Instagram and on Twitter He needs he needs a little bit more clout right now So spread some of your spread some of your juice out let him get a little taste of that I'm not good. I can't do that. This is my guy That's my guy well given your range because you shot that from the parking lot Do you think if you played one-on-one with Kevin Durant? You think you'd be able to get a couple buckets almost there? I'm definitely scoring. I Would actually like to make that happen. I actually think I'll give him a run for his money. Okay. All right

Yeah, well, I mean we can't really help set it up. Maybe we can we can that would be great to watch Yeah, we would be we would be team snacks all the way that would be a great one-on-one matchup What what what can you tell us anything behind the nickname snacks or like how long have you had it for? Um, I've actually had the name since about probably around about 2005-2006 has actually been around the program for going on 15 16 years and I actually enrolled in Jackson State coming out of high school so I um My aunt she used to always take me to the Jackson State games and she would I would go, you know with the players back in the locker room

They were kind of embraced me as like a little brother and I always had like skittles and snacks and things like that and I actually used to eat them in the locker room and I actually Get things for the players and like before the game I get them snacks and skittles before the game to kind of get the energy flowing and Actually the ironic thing about it Some of the guys that I actually gave snacks to they're actually still on the coaching staff So it was a kind of surreal moment to actually see them on the sideline like two of our assistant coaches We're actually playing at the time that I was coming supporting the team and one of our assistant coaches actually

Promise me if I make the honor roll did he give me the opportunity to be a student manager here? So it was kind of it was all kind of connected as well as my final semester of college now whereas and they They let me finish my last semester actually on the basketball scholarship. So It's all been just just rolling right now. That's awesome And when they announce like snacks is in the game and snacks for three like that's that's a word you get the nickname snacks That's respect right and I see you got two games left in the regular season, right? Have we seen the last of snacks or are you planning on getting back in one of these games?

Well snacks is on hold for now until we finish off the season But our coach gave the team an incentive that if they finish off these two games And we got the home seed and a swag turning because the first four teams get a home game So he he said he promised me we get a home game Snacks will be back. Oh Saving you for the playoffs. Wow. So the people got to realize you guys are fifth right now You got to win out Grambling states ahead of you right now and then we could maybe get a return of the snack

Snack attack might be bad. I Love it. All right. Well snacks. Thank you so much for joining us. Enjoy your viral moment That was like I feel like we needed something like that because every now and then people get to down on life And to see you get in there and hit that three. I mean he hit it from the moon. Yeah, it was an impressive shot I don't care who you and it was your first shot, right? Yeah. It was my first It was kind of like a it was a great moment for me because it was kind of That's why I made the post that I made it You know kind of basically saying that if you put your mind to you can do it

I probably years ago. I probably never thought I'd be in this position So to actually be able to actually get in the actual game and get an opportunity like that I didn't take it for granted. So I had to at least go in and give me one to drop and to see my name in the Stat sheet and on the ESPN and things like that. It was it was nice So I kind of feel like I was a D1 athlete. That's awesome. I love it man Success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. That's fucking great. Well snacks. Thank you so much, man We're fans of yours We're rooting for you guys to get one in those top four seeds so we can get snacks back out there

Yeah, we are Jackson State podcast Yeah, and let us know if you're ever in New York City and we'd love to have you come by the the studio and hang out I'm most definitely let you guys know and it'll be a great opportunity. All right. Thanks, man Thanks so much. You guys have a great one That interview with snacks was brought to you by CBD MD the XFL season is heating up March madness will be here before you know it So you better rest up while you can and while John Rothstein might hate the idea of sleeping before May Our friends at CBD MD know that getting quality sleep every night is crucial to keeping you at the top of your game

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Victoria F goes home Stand by your morals Then at the women's tell-all Victoria F south Chris Hansen and he asked Victoria about the allegations that she broke up multiple marriages in the past Victoria F vehemently denied the allegations and said they never have wait what what allegations are these apparently there's rumors on the internet that Victoria F has slept with Multiple like upwards of five of her friends husbands whoa home records. Yeah, Victor I did a little situations where it was like a kind of internet thing and then Chris Harrison was just like is this true Damn, wow Victoria F is like everyone hates her right. Yeah, she's you know, she's a little bit of a wild child

I like her that's actually a good idea for a show just called the home record Yeah, and have a giant mansion filled with happily married couples and then one just crazy hot chick Which is comes in and just this box. That's fucks everyone and also they destroy the house by the end of it Victoria with a with like a wrecking ball to mm-hmm the home record and then Pete sat in the hot seat Friday is on the Paramount channel Pete sat in the hot seat at the woman tell all and he said that it was really hard dating 30 women at the same time Oh, but he doesn't regret any of his decisions and all the girls talked about what a valuable experience a show is for them Our boy Trent who writes these recaps was in the women's tell all at the at the episode So I asked him for

Like his thought process from the episode and he said his initial plan for being at the show was to not smile Laugh or clap the entire time it worked for the first five minutes until I started to feel like an asshole They filmed for six hours and would have been impossible to not clap Oh, and then he took a bottle to the face and then my plan for the champagne part was to not get it all over myself I mostly failed that because Kelsey shook the bottle up like crazy, but I tried my best Okay, so we're down to the final two now, right? Yep wins the final episode Next week next Monday. Yeah, I'll be like six hours long Yeah, and then they announced new bachelor at she's like 46. So can you get away? We don't need shame. I mean

Wait kind of is she for 46 no, we don't need she's old didn't they have a commercial asking for old people. Yeah, but that's for a different show This is the bachelor. You should be it. I don't know. I don't know. She's 38. Okay What you're over 30? 35 you might as well be 46. That's kind of how I look at this. Oh, I'm once you're over 36 You might as well be 40. Okay. I good. That's how I agree with that 36 is the number. Okay. I'm still my early 30 Victoria f bad girl old bachelorette coming Oh, and it ended with a major major. This is actually true

It ended with a major like cliffhanger and apparently Reality Steve even all the reality junkies don't even know what's gonna happen. They're like you're you're not gonna want to miss next week It's some crazy shit. That's never happened. Well, who the fuck is reality Steve? He's a guy that apparently like just Gets all the spoilers for reality shows and tweets them out Why would anybody follow? That's the best part is what I want to know Yeah, I do. Um, so this is a crazy. I used to do it for the challenge So he says that this is like the craziest thing that's happened the history reality shows Yeah, it's like unexpected. No, no one you will not be able to expect what happens

What about pumpkin spit on hoops? No, no, New York. What about puck just spitting? Oh? Yeah, Puck that was very what about Rosie getting taken to the hospital or tech diving into the pool naked on day one There's a lot out there. What about CT eating Adam's brains? What about the backpack? Mm-hmm. There's a lot of things. What about Danny about a douchey chug and vodka So can we bet on this we bet on who do you think is is gonna win Hank? I feel like it's gonna be Madison. I feel like once Madison like to go back to my own horn I said Madison episode one of this Hard to get away. He can't I said that I watched the first episode and she said that she won four national

Or four state championships in a row in high school And I was like that is a part of a champion even if she doesn't like this guy She's gonna compete to win that's a winner and that's what she's gonna win this guy Pete seems like a real asshole So I wouldn't put it past him if he I think you got someone pregnant. What do you had go? What? Yes? He got someone else pregnant what else could happen where it's like this result is you'll never expect it It's not could be anything that you could guess I don't think that is clearly not gonna be him picking one of the two girls because anyone would guess that It's got to be like oh by the way Victoria F's got my child. That would be amazing. I don't trust Pete sperm

I feel like he's an impotent little prick. Yeah, we know a Pete who can't come that's right PR 101 for the Knicks the Knicks have new guy running the show and You'd think that everything's gonna change what you would think wrong Because they have basically persecuted and made a mockery of their only fan remaining Spike Lee Well, yeah, I figure the Knicks were just gonna go one by one kicking every die-hard fan out of their game I guess it's Spike Lee's turn. Well, he kicked out. But yeah, he well, he's they have agreed apparently To not let Spike Lee in through the employees entrance anymore Right, there was a bit of a misunderstanding Spike Lee thought that he was banned from the garden

Right, and then he went on a rant and said like are the Knicks am I gonna die before the Knicks win another championship? The answer is yes Spike Lee. I hate to break it to you. You were gonna die It was also very funny watching him on first take and having everyone interview him like he had been actually assaulted They were like what so then tell us what happened next what did James do Dolan do next and now the the extra part which I love Because James Dolan cannot stay away from controversy Spike Lee the Knicks released a statement saying that Spike Lee it's ridiculous what he's saying what he's claiming He and James Dolan shook hands at halftime Everything's fine

The picture is from like way up high and Spike Lee has released a statement or texted someone who that got public saying That he was set up that James Dolan came by to specifically shake his hand very quickly So they could get the photo op from a sniper upstairs and then release it and be like look they're friends Yeah, and I wouldn't put it past James Dolan I would not at all this happens all the time in spy movies and TV shows where you send somebody up to get that long-distance Snapshot right looking like something inappropriate is happening and boom you've got the propaganda right there You've got the compromise. I would not put that past James Dolan James only has nothing better to do if you think that James Dolan is up in his suite pondering ways to actually make the Knicks better at

Basketball every single game. No, absolutely He's planning on getting revenge against all the people that have somewhat slighted him throughout the last 36 hours And that's a long list of people. Yes, it's great. It's great that he is spending that time Yeah, like hey, can we make this team better? No, let's actually just try to get propaganda photos that we can put out there In case our number one fan and the only guy who keeps defending us to probably a point where it's like ridiculous That Spike Lee is still going to these games and saying that the Knicks are gonna be fine Let's just make sure that we we frame him to make it make this go away Which it won't none of these stories ever go away. They always make it worse

They actually did Spike Lee a favor by kicking him out like that That's one less thing that he has to worry about. Yes Spike Lee is going to turn into like the most like optimistic Film director in the history of the world now that he doesn't have to spend 40 nights every year watching the Knicks play basketball Spike is like, you know what the world's pretty nice. Yeah, Brooklyn's hot Kyrie KD coming back Just be a Nets fan right across the river. Yeah, that would be like Papa John going to Kentucky. Yeah, it's tough John all right, we have a respect the biz to finish up before we get on guys on chicks What's this respect the biz respect the biz to March on Lynch?

So March on Lynch was invited to speak not at the Princeton graduation ceremony not commencement But during graduation week he was invited to give a speech to all the graduating seniors There was an op-ed that was filed in opposition to March on Lynch. Why being invited to speak well I actually agree with him It says among articles that praised March on's NFL career and philanthropic Contributions we came across articles discussing Lynch's reticence with the media and its terse responses at press conferences in 2013-14 for example Lynch was fined fifty thousand dollars and a hundred thousand dollars for refusing to speak to the media and During the 2015 Super Bowl media day Lynch famously responded to multiple questions with variants of I'm just here

So I won't get fined Wow So people are mad that he's giving a speech now when he was disrespecting the media before yes, exactly So I I stand in solidarity with the Princeton students. Yeah They're essentially they're crossing the picket line They're saying you know what okay March on you didn't want to talk to the media then we'll take you now No, no, no, mr. Lynch. That's not how it works my right right So there they're probably like six people that are actually upset about this and wrote a letter to the editor I would even say six but I won probably one person that's that made up five names

Yeah, and attach them to this letter But thank you for taking a stand on behalf of all the capital J's out there I finally feel like we have justice for the time that he said I'm just here not to get fined and it's probably just Pete Prisco. Yeah, that wrote this letter See ya see ya Hank guys on checks My fiance is going to Vegas in two weeks claiming that he just wants to go for March madness and says he absolutely Will not go to any strip clubs. Do I believe him? No

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This is about a best friend about your best friend. Yeah, your best your best friend It probably got dared to do it by somebody, but no one Probably got dared to do it by your friend Marty That was actually the weird part that it really was for nothing other than to dress up for it When your friend when your friend Marty dared your friend to do this They were probably like sure it'll be fun. We'll make for excellent content, which it probably was Your friend probably got a lot of laughs out of dressing up. Yep as a guy in this case Hey guys, especially wide dog. Oh my boyfriend goes to the washroom for five ten minutes before we have sex every time

Does he need to shit pre-sex or what is he doing jerking off? He's either yeah last long. He's either get a pre-rub in yeah, or he's just washing real good fluffing himself Yeah, he's just credit to him. He realizes that he's like a two-pump chump So he's gonna double those pumps by pumping himself Maybe he goes in and he likes his pubes at the exact same length every time even if it's just like a quarter inch off Yeah, so he just he takes out that same clipper just Always looks the same. Yeah, that's beautiful. That's it. Okay, uh, Friday Friday Friday, uh, Doug Morone and Kevin Bacon. Oh, how about that?

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