Pardon My Take - JB Smoove, Draft Lingo With Steven Cheah, Plus Listener FAQ’s

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

Kyle Shanahan wants to kill us all and we give some final thoughts on the NFL Draft before round 1( 2:57 - 20:09). Big Cat is in a fight against a mascot (20:09 - 23:48). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including aggregators and masks (23:48 - 43:11). JB Smoove joins the show to talk about his new podcast, curb your enthusiasm’s newest season taping right now and more( 43:11 - 67:53). Steven Cheah joins the show to talk about his favorite draft memories, best mock drafters, and the draft of draft lingo (67:53 - 107:32). We finish with some great listener FAQ’sYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have recurring guest JB Smoove from, you know him, from Curb Your Enthusiasm. He's actually taping Curb Your Enthusiasm right now. He also has a new podcast. He pumps us up, Life Affirmations.

We also have Steven Chey, the senior draft analyst at Barstool Sports. Very funny with Steven Chey. We've drafted Daniel Jeremiah's buzzwords and then had Steven apply the name of the player that best suits that. So awesome. He stepped in it big time. Twice. Yeah.

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So I can't guarantee who will be on our roster on Sunday. That is Kyle Shanahan threatening the entire world with, I don't know, with Asteroid. How is he gonna kill everyone? Well, he was definitely threatening Jimmy Garoppolo. First thing I thought, the way that he phrased it, which, I mean, it was the easiest question to answer, by not, all he had to do was not imply that he was going to kill his starting quarterback. Yes.

And it would have been fine, but then he was like, Jimmy Garoppolo might not even be alive. So none of us might be alive. It sounds like a threat to me. It's a threat to all of us. But especially to Jimmy. I actually scheduled a tweet. I think it's going out Sunday morning just to tweet at Jimmy Garoppolo to make sure that

he's still alive. You good, bro? You good? You okay? You alive? He's saying essentially like, it'd be a real shame if something were to happen to Jimmy before Sunday. So I can't guarantee that.

Like, I'll put it this way. If you're a police officer and you hear Kyle Shanahan say that and then Jimmy Garoppolo, heaven forbid, somehow dies before Sunday, who's the first call you're going to be making? It's Kyle Shanahan. It's it's Kyle Shanahan. It goes to first to thank him for his support in John Lynch. Yeah. Then Kyle Shanahan straight up be like, Hey, where were you?

Do you have an alibi going on? He's probably going to kill him. It's the most like football guy answer to just not be able to answer something straight up and instead making it way, way bigger and be like, Hey, listen, guys, we're in a pandemic in this economy. Who can guarantee anything? Who knows what a roster is anymore? It's what is he?

What even is a roster is a construct by the NFL. He's like, this could be a simulation that we're all in or the matrix. Is anybody alive? Imagine if someone if Kyle Shanahan and his next press conference just brought out the red and blue pill and was like, you choose whether you want Jimmy Garoppolo on the Niners. I also, this is the end for Jimmy Garoppolo. I think we all can agree. We always joke about the vote of confidence that like a coach will get and that usually

means the end or when a coach says, you know, these are my guys. I'm not looking for another job. That usually means they're looking for another job. Jimmy Garoppolo got the worst possible compliment from Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch during their press conference. John Lynch said that he has been a pro. Jimmy's been a pro. And he said he really has.

I just spoke to him over the weekend. He's here. He's taking part in our virtual meetings, plans on doing it, the work being at the workouts. Jimmy's been completely professional as he always has been with us. That is such a bare minimum thing to compliment a guy being like, listen, he showed up. He was at work and he has not complained yet. And that's really where the compliments end. When you say somebody's a pro as a head coach, it just means that they've accepted their

benching like a man. That's the direct translation of what that means. You'll never hear like after a quarterback goes out and throws for six touchdowns and 400 yards. Talk about how Pat Mahomes played out there, coach Reed. Well, you know, Patrick, he was a pro out there today. No, it's never that. It's usually like Alex Smith getting benched for Patrick Mahomes.

Describe how Alex Smith is in the QB room. He's a pro. Rarely, though, you could get, he's a pro's pro and then he actually might be good. A pro's pro. But a pro, yeah. A pro is, I mean, they're just stating facts. Everyone could die on Sunday. And technically by the letter of the law, Jimmy Garoppolo is a professional football

player. A pro's pro is what you say to a borderline hall. You say to Julian Edelman after he retires, if you're Peter King, yeah, or because he picked up my phone calls and he was tough. It's a pro's pro is synonymous with as good of a player as he was. He's an even better person. They don't usually say that for like incredible players, right? Right.

Because it's really hard to be an incredible human being. The headline you can take away from this is Kyle Shanahan essentially said, Jimmy Garoppolo is still alive right now to the best of my knowledge. Yes. That's all you can take away from. Also just a big, just chill out man to the entire 49ers for an office because John Lynch also said the 49ers have attended 176 college games and practices, conducted 400 Zoom calls, interviewed 600 players and attended 128 separate pro days to come to these decisions.

You know what that is. That's a little getting in front of it. That's what Billy's been doing this week with his who's back and his hot seat cool throw, just throwing some stats out there to get to help his resume. That's just straight up. We put the hours in. Yeah. That's if you're a salesperson and you know that you're going to miss your quota, you

just dial every number, even the ones that you know are not in service anymore. So they show up on your call log like, look, I'm actually putting the time into this. Yes. They're afraid that they're going to make the wrong decision, I think. And also, Kyle, I think Kyle Shanahan specifically is maybe the least chill Kyle on the planet. Yes. Well, Kyle's in general aren't very chill. They're more aggro.

They're aggro. Yeah. They drink monster energy and they fucking punch holes through walls. I would go chill power rankings for Kyle in this draft specifically. Kyle Pitts, Kyle Trask and then Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Trask is pretty chill. I mean, anytime you can just rock that goatee or whatever the chin strap and think that it works.

You got a chill level to you. Did you see also Jerry Jones said that his visions of he has visions of sugar plums picturing Kyle Pitts with Dak Prescott. I mean, that's good. It's better than glorials. He's just he's just finding a new way to be horny and describe it. Sugar plums. Yeah.

I think you get you think sugar plums is a bonkable statement. I think it's like it wasn't in Kenny Powers. Like my plump. I could feel it. My plums. That's what I immediately went to. Okay. You can feel it in his plums.

I see. I hear sugar plums. I think Jerry Jones actually is old enough where he's heard every single innuendo for every single part in the human anatomy. Sugar plums might have just been currency when he was growing up. Right. He might throw it back and like start talking about a prospect's gams inside their legs. Right.

It was like, oh, you want a candy bar? All right. Well, that will be three sugar plums. Yeah. But yeah, I just I immediately did think of the Ashley Schaefer when he was like, I feel my plums. That's what I figured Jerry Jones was alluding to the the draft, though, finally is going to be here.

We're excited for it. It does feel like we've picked apart every player a million different ways. Justin Fields now, according to even at least Chris Sims is now the 32nd pick, which I think Justin Fields is going to be our new everyone gets mad about wherever he lands. Like if he gets picked third, people like that's way too high. And if he gets picked 30th, people like that is such disrespect. Yeah. And I don't think there's any like no matter what people are going to be mad about Justin

Field. I don't think he's going to go 32nd. I don't think so. You know what? I'll I'll stand on the table. I will say I will give Chris Sims my spleen if he gets picked 32nd. Exactly 32nd. What about lower?

No. I think you've got to give 30 or lower. Lower. Yeah. My spleen. And please God, please God. Wait. Justin Fields with a fucking BONG mask going on on on draft night.

There's one stipulation. He has to still be alive. Yeah. So no one can be alive. So if he's still alive on Thursday, then yes, if you can say about Chris Sims. Has to be alive. Both. I'm not giving a dead body.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. But yeah, if it's 32nd or lower, Chris, my spleen is yours. It's probably in pretty pork. And your spleen, Chris, is probably better than my spleen. How many spleens do you have?

Two? Yeah. One. Just one. He's got none. You don't really need it. He has none. It's like your second ball.

I'm pretty sure it keeps you not sick. Your spleen does. Yeah. I mean, being around Chris, he's said like his immune system is not great. Okay. Well, it's what's mine is yours, Chris. If that does that. I'm not going 32nd.

He's probably going to go top 10. Okay. But maybe he will go 32nd. Because you know, you know that after Mac Jones gets drafted, after Trey Lance goes off the board, a team is going to move up to whatever that pick is because they're going to panic. Maybe even the Bears. Maybe even the Patriots.

There's talk about that. There is talk about that, Hank. Have you thought about your future quarterback possibly coming in the first round of this draft? Yeah. I mean, there's rumors. There's always rumors. We'll see.

We'll see what happens Thursday, though. I feel like they're not going to do it. All this smoke for nothing. I feel like when it comes to the draft, there's always smoke. There's always, always, always like, this might happen. This might happen. And then usually nothing crazy that happens. But if they trade up, they're obviously taking a quarterback and then I'll be hyped.

It feels like a situation where the Patriots would have all this smoke, not trade up, but then the Bears would trade like 17 first round picks to trade up. Yeah. And then fuck themselves. Hank, what do you think about this? Would you rather have Jimmy Garoppolo again for a, let's call it a fifth round pick. Or trade up, give up next year's first, this year's first, maybe a second and take Justin Fields.

I would like Justin Fields. There's an old clip circulating. I'm sure you'll see it like a million times with Cam Newton and Justin Fields at like a camp back in the day when, when Justin Fields was in high school and Cam Newton's like, this is the best quarterback. He's my guy, blah, blah, blah, blah. So it'd be a good narrative to have draft Justin Fields, Cam Newton obviously likes him.

He can, you know, learn from him and then be the guy. So was he the kid that was like, you suck, Cam? And Cam was like, I'm rich. No, no, no, no, no. It was, it was like, it was like Justin Fields is doing an interview and then Cam like butts his head and it's like, this is the best quarterback, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So that would be cool. I would, I would, I would definitely be, you know, I'd be pulling for that storyline.

The other day to the breakdown, this just came out today. I happened to see this morning, um, Trey Lance, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, all have bowls at Chipotle. Nice. That they put their names on. Nice. So Trey Lance is, is steak, brown rice, black beans, tomato salsa, tomatillo salsa, lettuce and guacamole.

Zach Wilson's is chicken, white rice, nervous bird, tomatillo, nervous bird alert, Jim Harbaugh. You don't, you don't eat chicken. No. You're going to become a chicken. Justin Fields. You don't eat chicken to Andrew Luck. You know where he is? Not playing football.

Check this out though. Justin Fields, sofritas, brown rice, fajita veggies, romaine and guacamole. That's the vegan option that they have there. So a take that I'm kind of squatting on because I haven't heard anybody say, I don't actually believe this, but it'd be cool to hear somebody say, and I feel like it might be coming. Just saying that Justin Fields is the best football player in this draft, but he's the fifth best quarterback. I like that.

Most important player. Yeah. Billy, what do you think in terms of the Chipotle, or that's kind of like right up your, up your. Quarterbacks ordering Chipotle. The only thing is Justin Fields with the vegetarianism. He's pretty, you know, durable and that would be the only question of a man made up of plant proteins.

Uh huh. True. Vegetarianism. A word. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Biden probably loves him. Right.

Yeah. The, um, but I, someone pointed out to me yesterday, we've been doing this show for so long, I think I actually believe the long hair quarterback thing, but someone pointed out like, are you guys just coward now? Yeah. I was like, absolutely. Fuck. Yeah.

Maybe on this one. Yeah. Well, long hair and then visors. Yeah. Shit, honestly, like there, there are certain takes you go back in life and you wish that you had come up with first the backwards hat one is absolutely take I was so funny to to look at like just all the quarterbacks that have worn backwards hats and all the Super Bulls they've won.

Yeah. Like every single one of them, you can find so many backwards hat pictures of Brady, of Rogers, of Rottlesburg. All of them. Yeah. Not the Askew hat, not the hat that goes off to the side. Yeah. But yeah, the backwards Pedro stroke.

Remember when Bob Kossas had a stroke? Cause Pedro stroked in where his fucking hat is. Straight forward. He'll hold the Dantro Willis off to the side. Yeah, we should just throw a shout out to Bob Kossas. I know he's probably still struggling with the fact that the NFL has not ceased to exist. So remember when he wrote that whole thing,

like it was a nightmare to have to cover the league. Yeah, he's been going through it. And I think he like gave it, didn't he give a speech at halftime of the money at football game about how he refuses to support the NFL? It just, it's so against all these paychecks that I've been making all these millions of dollars. It just hurts me so much because the NFL is so terrible.

He probably just closes his eye or his good eye when he's at a football game, just imagines it's baseball. Yeah, yeah. Shout out Bob Kossas. I do like the fact that Mac Jones doesn't have a Chipotle bowl. Wait, I have a question. Mac Jones, where does second DUI come from? Wait, he has two DUIs?

No, I think that's just an internet rumor, but everyone says he has two DUIs. Does he have one? Yeah, he has one. Two, then you don't have one. Yeah, you know, he officially has one. There's a mugshot of it, but like, he just got screwed just getting a second one made up.

I have no idea. I didn't even think that they gave you DUIs in Alabama. Yeah, no, I think it was where's he from. I think he got it in high school maybe. Yeah, he's got a lit, listen, if you want to do the coward take, like I like my quarterbacks when they get a mugshot to not have a little cry in their eyes.

Oh, he's sad in it. Yeah, look it up. He didn't stand up. He's got a tiny bit of cry in his eyes. So I'm saying bust just on that, just based on that. Does he have two? I think it was red shirt freshman year. Okay, does he, Jake's fact check that for me?

I think he only has one, but the internet, like if you search on Twitter, second two DUIs, Mac Jones has so many people saying he has two. That's also a sign of the draft has come too late. We should have had it two weeks ago because then you keep going, like if we went all the way till June, half the guys in the first round are convicted murderers.

I'm not seeing anything about the second DUI. If you look though, people claim him to have one, yeah. One from 2017. Did you see the cry in his eye? Yeah. He's got cry in his eye. He does, yeah. Like you can't have cry in your eye in that.

You have to know that you're getting a mug shot. You can't have cry in your eye. You need to feel like you gotta take shots sometimes. Yeah. You can't regret it. Oh, wait, he does? I think he gave the cop a fake ID too. That's, so he's a fraud.

So he's got bad decision making too. Uh-oh. Shouldn't have threw that. Uh-oh, I think we just moved him down. And Kyle Shanahan wants this guy? Kyle Shanahan really wants it. Well, you don't know. This could be like the biggest psych out of all time.

It would be incredible if he took... If Mack Jones ended up being a second rounder? Yeah. And I had to talk myself into him? Yeah. Macorkel? If Mack Jones, if it was just like a big, if it was a big punk, if we're all in punk right now.

Yeah. And like all the competent general managers were just gassing him up, hoping that somebody would be dumb enough to trade. Hoping that Ryan Pace would be dumb enough to trade up for him. I do think Mack Jones gives off the vibe that enough people clown on him on Twitter

and like the internet and say he sucks, then I think he'll be really good. I was about to say he gives off, what's happening with Mack Jones right now is a lot, it's very similar to what happened with Josh Allen. Right, enough people decide he sucks. No way. Everybody that I know that has never played

or coached football knows that Mack Jones sucks. Right. And a lot of people that have coached football and played football think he's pretty good. When you get a draft like consensus, pre-draft about a guy just being a total bust, rarely does he end up being a total bust. Here's what I'll say about Mack Jones.

Mack Jones is the best backup quarterback in this draft at the next level. He projects to be a top tier long-term backup, which begs the question. I don't want my backups crying either. It begs the question though. Third stringers can cry. How much would a guaranteed 10-year backup quarterback

that goes 500 when he gets in, what would you use in terms of draft capital to take that player? Is that a third rounder? Career backup, every time he gets, so what's so he gets into what, 10 games in his 10 years and he goes five and five? More than that.

I'd say he gets into 15 to 20 games. And he goes what? Of course the 10 years. And what does he go? Well, now I'm trying to do the schedule math with the different, the fucking 17 game schedule. Let's say he goes 12 and eight in 20 games. That's a second rounder.

I'd say that's like a third or fourth. How many stands in playoff games? One half. One half. He keeps him afloat for one half. He gets a save. But then the starter comes back in and loses it. So you didn't win that playoff game.

But then with that next draft pick, you draft a better starter because you were one spot earlier. Yeah, Billy's doing it. What does the Jimmy Johnson draft try to say about that one? All right, let's get to our hot seat cool thrones. Did you find the second DUI, Jake? No, it doesn't exist, right?

I don't see anything there before. If you look though, you can, people just get into them. It sucks. I think it's because the mug shot is, he is crying so hard. I think it's post cry. Yeah, it's post cry. I think the cop was like,

hey dude, you're about to take a mug shot. You're an Alabama football player. Like why don't you clean yourself up real quick? Yeah, he just, he doesn't, the problem is in the mug shot, he looks like a bad quarterback. Not even the cry, very skinny. He's got, he looks like a fan of Alabama football.

Also remember as a DUI as a minor, which has much lower BAC limits. Ah, good point, Billy. Always standing up for people who drink and drive. No, no, I'm not. No, we're glad that we have that, we have that perspective on the podcast. You covered that for us.

You're both sides. Yeah. Oh wait, any other things in, oh, I fucking hate blooper. The mascot for the Braves. I mean, fuck that bitch. Blooper came at us pretty hard last night. Dude, he's a Philly fanatic wannabe.

And you know what I realized? I'm gonna have to go back to war with blooper tonight. What did he do? I missed all this. He was just sitting on the dugout when the last, like right before the last out, just hanging out. And I tweeted, I was like, fuck this fuck face blooper. And then he tweeted us and he tweeted a picture

that looked like blooper was me, fat me, and then PFT a guy with long hair and glasses next to him. And I realized that when you go after a mascot, it's a 0% chance you can win. It's yeah, it's like you're fighting, you're boxing a clown. Cause everyone comes, if blooper just responds, everyone's like, oh, roasted.

So, but guess what? I'm gonna win. The only person. I'm gonna beat blooper. You've already lost. No, I'm gonna beat him. I'm gonna beat him. To this day, the only person that's ever looked cool

getting into a fight with a mascot is Timeless Sorter. Yeah. Cause he beat the shit out of him. So I'm going to. You have to actually, you have to, you have to challenge him to roughen up. I probably am breathing some of the air of the Timeless Sorter.

Oh, this is funny. It's not that bad. Yeah, but I don't like him. He's a fucking Philly fanatic wannabe bitch. No, cause he's got the mustache on. Yeah. So it's big cat. Yeah, I got that.

And the guy next to him's got long hair and sunglasses. But it's a long red hair wear. They literally made Philly fanatic. They made a Philly fanatic. I don't like this guy. No, fuck him. Blooper. And also, no, why would you have your mascot be blooper?

Real teams don't need mascots. What? Oh, you know. What? It's problematic. Tom Hawk chop. No, I know, but what? Blooper's a bad thing.

Appropriating podcast culture is equally problematic. Like Dinger should be the name of the mascot. Or just the freeze. They have the best mascot in the world, the guy that runs around the outfield. Is that guy in the Olympics? He should be. He absolutely should be.

I'm like, how is he not on our real A team? It's disgusting. Yeah. All right, yeah, but fuck Blooper. I'll see you tonight, bitch. All right, let's get to Hot Sea Cool Throne, brought to you by our friends at Coors Light and Coors Seltzer.

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Okay. Sold a bunch of his Bitcoin, people are mad at him for that and even worse, he tweeted that he was gonna be the host of SNL. And then the SNL cast is like internally revolting, bitching and moaning about him hosting the show because he's so rich apparently. I don't get that at all.

Me neither. Wait, do you not get why he's hosted? I don't know, I don't get why like the cast is like- That's where the cast draws the line. Yeah, like of all the hosts for the cast to draw the line and be like, oh, Elon Musk is too rich. They might be mad because he's not funny. He is kind of funny.

Is he? Smoked weed on Joe Rogan. I also- Hilarious. You're right, good point. I also feel like- Doge, I mean, you're a Doge guy, PFT. You kind of owe him for that.

I probably do him. I'm just excited. I like to think maybe he personally selected Miley Cyrus as the, as the- Yes. In which case hats off to you, sir. You're gonna need a bigger stick for me on Saturday night. I don't, so is he gonna still do it?

Or have they effectively kicked him off? I, I'm sure he's gonna do it. I don't think the SNL care. I'm sure SNL wants the ratings they're gonna get from Elon Musk more than like their fucking cast members being like, man. If I were Elon Musk, I would just show up and every sketch would just be like a Tesla

or the super truck ad. I'm just like, this is what's funny to me. Fuck you guys. He does have a weird laugh. Like if you don't like it, I'll fire all of you and then buy SNL and then end SNL. You think I'm too rich? I'll fucking buy NBC and I'll blow the whole thing up.

He does have by definition, fuck you money. Yeah, he should do that. He could show up tomorrow and just like buy SNL from Lord Michaels and they'd be like fine. You know what he should do? He should just in each sketch bring out a different suitcase filled with like $2 million and just light it on fire.

Yes, or, or he should hire, he should do a casting call right now and find the perfect doppelganger for every single SNL cast member currently and just bring his own cast and just be like you guys just stand on the back and they all kind of suck but it would be funny because they suck.

Yep. Either way, these are all things that you can do when you have that much. He seriously could do whatever he wants. Yeah. I also don't understand what SNL like, SNL gets, I know it's an institution. I know that like it's been around forever.

There's been so many funny people have come through there. I love Kyle Mooney. I love Beck Bennett. There's still some funny cast members, Keenan, all those guys. And Kristen, I miss Kristen Wake. I'll just say that right now. That's not a bonk.

They just think she's one of the funniest women ever. Kind of a bonk. I don't know why SNL like, why do we give them so much time and like our collective thought. Do they live rent free in our head? In America's head? Yes, I do.

They do. Rent free. It's such a big deal. It's like, do people still watch SNL like they used to? I still, if I see a sketch, I think, oh, that's funny. I like it. I'm not saying I'm funnier than them.

I'm just saying it doesn't have the cultural relevance that it did 10, 15, 20, 30 years. Right, because old people still remember it as being like the one, it's the water cooler conversation that you have on Monday morning. You see SNL, but I don't know anybody that actually watches it.

We need to- Occasionally, here's my limit. If I see somebody put the same SNL skit on my timeline five times, I'll watch it the fifth time. And it's usually the shit. Like I said, Kyle Mooney at the end, when they cut that, that's usually the funniest stuff.

But I just, I think we give too much, I think we let SNL dictate the conversation too much. They're the skip and Steve and A of comedy. Yes, yes, exactly. Everyone talks about it, but no one actually really spends time to watch the show. Yes, perfect analogy, Hank. My other hot seat is Citizen Kane.

Did you guys see this? Did you hear about this? The movie? The movie, classic. Everyone says it's the best movie of all time. It's such a default like, oh, what's the best movie, Citizen Kane? Not anymore.

The Rotten Tomatoes. Someone that works at Rotten Tomatoes found an 80 year old review, like talking a negative review about Citizen Kane. So they put it in the Rotten Tomatoes, whatever, like system. And now it's a 99 on Rotten Tomatoes, not a 100. Paddington 2 is a 100. So Citizen Kane by Rotten Tomatoes metrics,

no longer the best movie of all time. Second best movie of all time. Good films. That's a real shame. Rosebud's the sled. Yeah. I'm more of a Godfather 3 guy. John Ross, he would kill you.

That's absolutely insane. Just kidding. I didn't even know that gift was from the movie. Oh yeah, that's right. That was a funny moment. Oh, the clapping gift? Yeah, the old Al Pacino. Just when you thought it was out.

Come pull me back in. All right. My cool throne is hockey. Signed it. Put it on ice. True. Well, that and they doubled, they're getting double money.

They doubled up. Go on. They're leaving NBC. They're going to ESPN. I think the revenue is going from like 300 million a year to 600 million a year from these new deals. Caps going up. Caps going up.

I like the fact that it's going to be on ESPN because anything. I was too young to ever watch any show on ESPN. It's going to force them to talk about it. People will forget. They used to talk about hockey for at least like three minutes each sports center.

I hope that was literally before my time because growing up, they never talked about it. Like they would do maybe in the playoffs, like a one minute quick highlight package. All right. It would be so funny if they didn't talk about it still. Yeah. But it does have the theme song is fantastic.

Here's my prediction. Here's my prediction. Go ahead. My prediction is that they're going to need to find somebody to fill like the Paul Bisonette, Ryan Whitney. There's definitely a meeting going on right now at ESPN where they're like, we need to get our biz nasty Ryan Whitney

of our own on ESPN. But you know, like a little safer than them. And they're going to go out there and try to find somebody and it's going to be the worst impression of Paul Bisonette and Ryan Whitney that they have. Yes. On the set.

Yes. Agreed. They also have a deal. Unless it's Patrick Sharp, then it's a great hire. Just straight up. Patrick Sharp doesn't have, he doesn't have the shitty Sydney stories though. And if he does, he's not going to say it.

Maybe he will. Maybe he'll be part of his contract. Right. He just shows up and just starts vaping right on set. Oh, all right. Is that it? That's it. Okay.

Hank, did you know that the clapping gift that you see everywhere, that is Citizen Kane? That's probably what. Yeah, the old guy in black and white. That's how they should solve the Oscar ratings problems. They should just give Oscars for the best gifts of the year. Yeah, I was in like a class, I think I was in high school,

I was in a class and my teacher like broke down Citizen Kane frame by frame, scene by scene to explain why it was so good. So I understand. That's how you know it's good. I understand why it's so good. When they have to explain why it's good. It makes sense to me.

I, unlike you uncultured swans, I understand and support Citizen Kane. No, no, no. That's the best time. I like when my jokes get explained to me. Yeah, you love the concept of Citizen Kane. No, it makes sense. It makes total sense.

Why haven't they remade it? It's so fucking good. Can't remake a classic. Yeah, you can. What are you talking about? Ninja Turtles too. Don't we have a new Top Gun coming out? Yeah.

What is that coming out? I don't know. It's gonna be sick. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's got planes, balls. What's like a two seconds synopsis of Citizen Kane? Sled. You know Kane the wrestler?

Yeah. Nothing like that. There it is. Boom. The opposite of Kane. Something with a casino, I think. Yeah, yeah, it's about a casino. You're thinking, oh, you're thinking of casino.

Yeah, casino. No, no. Oh, you're thinking of Ocean's 11. Maybe, yeah. Which was a remake. Yeah, of Ocean's 10. Which is also actually better. And 12.

Ocean's 12. I walk you through it frame by frame. Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., they go to a casino. All right. My hot seat is Bill Simmons. Oh. Bill Simmons on the hot seat, because I don't know if you guys have been up to speed

on the goings on in Dallas these days, on the Mavericks. Luca and Chris Steps are apparently, they're not exactly best friends. Oh, no. There's Trouble in Paradise down there. And Mark Cuban has said a few things in radio interviews. He's basically saying like,

they work things out of the court. So they squash whatever booth they have. I mean, they hate each other. And he also said, if you remember, Dirk didn't really like Jason Terry when he first got here. But they worked it out in the court. So basically they hate each other.

And Bill Simmons was talking about it on his podcast, which I don't know the name of it. I don't listen to it. But they talked about it. And Simmons was like, about to say what he knew that was going on behind the scenes. And he was like, no, if I say it, then all the aggregators out there

are gonna write about it and they'll blog it. And so I'm not gonna say it because he doesn't want that attention. A question, yeah. We can just speculate. Okay. And then we can get the aggregators to blog about it. I'm fine with people writing about this podcast.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what you want. Yeah. You want people to write about your show. Not if you're Bill Simmons. Got it. He just wants to hang out with his friend. We can probably say it and no one will write about it because people don't like to put our names in the court.

They're Eskimo brothers. I think like when Bleacher Report and ESPN has to put part of, via part of my take on the quote card, like a little single tier rules down there. They look like she's actually doing like the same colored font text that Matt from. You really have to search for it. Well, where's Waldo?

I'll see it and get mad. And then I'll like, I have to like pull up my magnifying glass. Oh my God. All right. Technically they did it. But yeah, apparently there is something that's going on there. And I don't know, no one knows what it is, but they just don't like each other.

My, my best bet is, well, what do they always say? Like the old Villanova rumor where like a teammate had sex with another teammate's girlfriend. That's a tried and true one that you can always go back to the well on. It's never true. But it could be. But it could be.

In Latvia and Slovenia. Are they not? They're standing rivals. Are they beefing? Yeah. Huge beef. Really? Yeah.

Going back to the 1800s. Damn. They probably root for different soccer teams. Yeah. That squash that beef. They got squashed it. All right. What's your cool throne?

My cool throne is Roger Goddell's chair. Literally a cool throne this week. So Roger Goddell's famous chair, the one that he sat in last year. You remember that one? Who could forget? The one that he sat in. Wait, what do you do with the chair?

It's the chair that he sits in when he scams money from people that he says he's going to give to chair. And eats M&M's. And eats M&M's. People forget that. It's his man cave chair. And we all were wondering what was going to happen this year in the draft with Roger Goddell's chair.

If you're not, Ian Rappaport reported that the chair will be in Cleveland. And you might see it out and about. So I'm sure it's going to be hilarious, whatever they decide to do with it. I just love the idea of an NFL employee going over to Roger Goddell's house, carrying his chair up the stairs,

putting it into a van, and then driving his chair across country. See, I think. Like it's Rain Man with a lazy boy. The funnier thought about it is that Roger Goddell thinks that his chair was that impactful and that funny to everyone, that he's going to have the chair out there

and he's going to like pull over, like Kyle Pitts can get draft. He's like, see that over there? Kyle Pitts is like, yeah, that's a chair. He's like, no, no, no. That's my chair. That's the chair. From last year.

And like, you get it? Like, no, no one gets it. Do you want to hug the chair? It's not fucking important. So way to go, Goddell. They're probably killed that one. Okay, two predictions. One, they're either going to have

somebody that comes down and gets drafted to hug the chair instead of hugging Roger Goddell. Two, it'll be like an Instagram selfie station that the NFL is like, cool. We get it. We're hip zoomers. Goddell's chair. So after you get drafted,

you can take a selfie of yourself and Roger Goddell's chair. I have faith in the people of Cleveland, but I'm just hoping we've got a hitch boss situation. Just beat the fuck out of it? Yeah, they just destroyed the chair. That would be funny. Should we put a bounty on the chair?

I'm down. I mean. Yeah, fuck that chair. If you see that chair, fuck it up. That chair inspired the stealing from charity. Yes. It's on site. We would have donated to.

Right. Yeah, a lot of money. Fuck that chair up, please. All right. My hot seat is anyone who's still wearing masks outside. We're good. CDC said we don't have to do it anymore. Which I don't want to say not to brag,

but I called it, but last week, my sunglasses were getting fogged up and I was like, I think I'm done wearing a mask outside. Yeah. So I kind of got there first, CDC. No big deal. It's funny to see people getting mad about this new, this new like unrestriction,

because this is why we got vaccines. Remember a year ago, big cat, when you, you, in addition to saving the super league, you told science to make a vaccine. Fast. Fast and do it like now. And they did it. Hyper fast.

And they did it warp speed for you. This is the reason why we got vaccines. So let's go. Let those fucking, let those mouths fly. Plus when you're outside and, you know, you're outdoors and you're not standing on top of somebody, you're probably fine. I know a lot of people are like,

I knew this from the very start. Nobody knew shit about shit from the very start. We've figured out what's going on. It seems to be pretty safe to be outside and breathing fresh. I just feel bad for the guy who's been like testing out some, some type of weird facial hair being like, well, I got the mask just in case.

Now he's got to, he's got to let it fly. If you have a cold sore. Yeah. Absolutely take advantage of the mask. This week. Keep going. This today is the worst day perhaps in American history to get a cold sore.

Exactly. You can't do it. Or you just can't go outside. My cool drone is Andre Drummond because Skip Bela said, I'm starting to think his name is really Andre Drummond. No D. Which means that he'll now like rattle off

an incredible stretch of defense. It also is, it's curious because Andre Drummond still has two D's left in it. So he's got three D's in his name. Skip took out one of them. Right. He's still a very good D. He's still a very good defensive player.

He's got two D's. He's double D's. Yeah. I call him ski babies. Honk. Cause without a microwave, there's no P. Yeah. There we go.

All right, Billy. I'm excited for this. Hot seat CNN. Van Jones is rumored to be dating Kim Kardashian. Whoa. So you could see Kardashian curse. To CNN. And CNN.

Whoa. That'd be pretty wild. Maybe that all goes back. Remember when Kanye went to TMZ and Van Jones was like getting in a fight with him. No, no, no. Flag. You're thinking of Van Lathan.

Yep. And he actually tweets about that all the time. But whenever Van Jones cries on air. Sorry, Van. He's like, people always text me like, dude, you OK? It's like, that's not me. My bad, Van. He just went to Oscar, though.

Yeah, he did. So shout out to you. Congratulations. Sorry. I feel like CNN's another one of those things like SNL where it still occupies a lot of space in people's brains and not that many people pay attention to it, unless it's on Twitter.

Oh, definitely. All right, Billy. Hot seat, extra innings. Second one, OK. Minor League team is saying, fuck extra innings. We're just going to have a home run derby, the Pioneer League. Love it. Huge move.

So it's a whole league, actually. Not just a team. Did you do that last year? Yeah, league. Pioneer League. The Pioneer. Thanks, dude. I did do that last year.

I said Pioneer League. Anyway, hot seat. Chicken. I ate a whole chicken today. Hey, you know who else is a Pioneer? I ate a whole rotisserie chicken. It was pretty big. Billy, you know who else is a Pioneer?

You? Yes, I am a Pioneer. Jesus Christ, dude. Cool thrown pie. The cryptocurrency, it's getting a crypto wallet so you can trade it. I am really pie. There's a there's a there's a cryptocurrency named pie

that if it somehow takes off, Billy football will have Elon Musk money and the world will just cease to exist. Billy will actually buy Barstool. He has so much pie. And he will actually kick us off our own show. It's the scariest thing ever. So I would just keep you employed and then just like do bossy things to you.

Yeah, he'll make me get drunk for every show. Billy, honestly, I like the chicken one. I sincerely hope that you become a billionaire. I think that that would be just. I would just do all the coolest shit. Like why are we wasting our time? They're not doing cool shit. Post SNL.

How many chickens would you eat in a day if you had unlimited money? Well, I'd be doing the best like HGH testosterone and I'd get huge. And I'd be a bodybuilding billionaire. It was a billionaire. Like he would do some Jurassic Jurassic Park type shit. We discussed it already.

Yesterday already planned it. True Microdosm. Yeah, Cool Throne. Macro. Macro, sorry. Cool Throne, Slam Ball. I screwed up too. Yeah, Slam Ball is trending the other day.

Slam Ball Saturdays were the best. They were amazing. Slam Ball, if you've never watched Slam Ball, I guess if you're probably younger than me and Big Cat, it wasn't on TV when you're growing up. It's basketball with trampolines. Those guys went. It's hard.

They put on Cartoon Network when I was a kid. Oh, sick. But also Cool Throne. He's still going? No. So why is it on the Cool Throne? No, no, no, I was saying you're still going. Yeah, I have way more.

OK. Cool Throne's swords, some Arkansas politician was holding a sword in the bathroom when they found him after the capital insurrection thing. That's kind of cool. OK, so now we're doing stories from January. Yeah, well, they just found this out. In Cool Throne, Elon Musk, he made a dick

joke about Jeff Bezos's space company. He said, your space company sucks because you can't get it up. Oh, nice. Into orbit because his rockets suck. I just didn't know that. I didn't know that Jeff Bezos had a space company. He does. Cool Throne Greek mythology, Percy Jackson,

is coming back for redoing it. Good job. Good job, Billy. Cool Throne water. That was great. Cool Throne water. Why water? She's got to drink it.

You need it. You just need that shit. All right, let's get to it. This is like Michael Strahan's last game that one season of Red Fire have laid down just so you can get the record. Just keep going, Billy. It's incredible.

It's incredible. It's Derek Cheeter. I can't wait for Friday. Your firefests are going to be lit. Oh, shit, you just realized he had to do a lot of firefests. That's your first firefest. Yeah, realizing you have to do a shitload of firefests. All right, let's get to our interviews.

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friend of the program. He was in studio last time, but it's great to see him. It is JB Smoove. He has a new podcast out. May I elaborate, Daily Wisdom from JB Smoove. So I want some Daily Wisdom. I want you to pitch us on this podcast, but I also want you to tell us some wisdom that we can use,

and maybe we'll riff off of that. Oh, you know what? I like to dive in on certain people. You turn what's going on in your life, I'll break it down. I'll break the fucking whole life down. Okay. What's going on in you?

How are you doing in this climate we're dealing with? How's your emotional state? You know? Do you envision things for yourself? You know, like maybe doing this podcast on another planet in the future? I don't know. You tell me what do you have planned?

Is it intergalactic shit going on? Or are you stationed here on this planet? Or do you see yourself on another planet? Or are you in the physical form on this planet? But your mind is in the universe. I don't know. Okay. I want to move this podcast

to Akon's country that he's inventing. Woo! Have you heard about that? I love that. I love that. Akon, right? Akon the singer. Akon, he's got Akon, he's got,

he's building a utopia in Africa right now. And it's going to be open to everybody. It's going to be open to everybody. He is building a Wakanda of some sense. Yes. You know, a far off world he can go to. You know what? Everything in your life should be more like Oz.

You know, like the Wizard of Oz, you know? That little girl, a little dog, that stupid ass lion, that dumb ass Tim Man. They got themselves together. They formed a boy band with a girl lead singer. And you know what I mean? And they all went on, they went on down this little road.

The Yellow Brick Road is nothing but life. You think the Yellow Brick Road is a real road? That's not a real road. The Yellow Brick Road is life. Everything they've ever been through in their life. That's what the Yellow Brick Road is. Yeah. The Yellow Brick Road is going somewhere.

That's what Akon is doing here. He is building a utopia, a world, another world where nothing, everything's free. I heard everything's gonna be free too. You go walk in, they have their own version of Walmart. And you just walk in and grab stuff. You go shopping, but you don't pay for nothing. You just walk right out.

That's shoplifting. That is shoplifting. No, no, no, no. It's not a crime over there. Okay. It's not a crime. It's what people need. It's giving people what they need, see?

Give them what they need. If you gotta pay for it, it's too much stress. Do I have enough money? It cannot afford to feed my kids. Can I do this? If you're gonna build a utopia, a world, you gotta build a world where everything is free. Free stuff.

You know what I mean? And they charge you at the end. See, you use stuff up and they charge you at the end. See? That's forcing you to save money and put money in your account. So you don't gotta worry about it. And the people who stressed out right now,

you'll be stressed out if you go over there. Know why? You're too worried about how much you gonna spend to go over there, to move over there. Sure, anybody can go, but see, your mind is still worried about how much I support my family. Now I gotta get a damn job.

See, it's too much to worry about. See, I should be on so many levels, not just a guru, not just a Ted Talk guy. I should be someone in a position to change everything. I like that. You know what I mean? I like that. See, you pay for stuff later.

Yeah. People too worried about their bills. Your bills will take over your life. See, bills and not having things, that's what makes people rob banks. You think people rob a bank because they like the color of money? No.

A bank because they need money. See, they need money, they need funds. People don't need to be worrying about everything that should be given to you. Education. I like this. Yeah, you just described a credit card with no limit on it.

Yeah. But I think how ACON is genius because you do have to pay for it at the end, but it's all on ACOIN. So he gets a cut of every transaction that goes through. You see, see, and if I was telling them, I make my own money. ACON money.

See, ACON money. You make ACON money and you put your face on that money. See, that way everybody has the same money, you know? And the money, each money, and the money don't have no value to it. It's just something to have, to have in your pocket. You know how fun it is to have something in your pocket that don't mean a damn thing, but it's still money.

You roll up a big knot of ACON bills and you put that bill, those bills in your pocket. See, and no one's gonna rob you because it ain't worth a damn until the end of the year anyway. Yeah. See? Yeah. My issue right now that you could maybe fix,

I'm just tired. I'm tired. We're coming off March Madness. I got a little son. I'm tired. I'm just a tired person. So fix it for me. Oh man, you tired.

Yeah. Here's what happens. Sometimes tired gets in the way of tired. You know what I'm saying? You got too many different tires going on. You tired of this shit. You tired of dumb shit. You tired of this food.

Your wife keep making every goddamn Thursday. You got too many tires going on. And your tires are overlapping with your other tires. Oh. You tired of driving to work. You tired of driving to work. You tired of this dumb ass car. I got this dumb ass car.

Keep breaking down. I'm tired of my mortgage. You tired, see, tires get in the way of other tires. So you got tires that are intersecting with each other. You know what I'm saying? You love ooze of noodles. But at some point you get tired

of these goddamn ramen noodles. I don't try them. I don't add vegetables to it. I don't add a bacon to it. I don't try the nachos, cheese, loose ass, loose ass gummy bears. I don't put everything in these goddamn ramen noodles, but they steal ramen noodles.

Yeah. My tires are overlapping. I got to get rid of one of my tires. Your tires are overlapping with your other tires. Yeah. So another way to clear your tiredness is you got to delete your cache. You know, you got to delete your cache.

Okay. That means you got to erase some of your stuff in order to make room for other stuff to breathe. You got too many things going on in your head. You can't breathe. Yeah. You can't breathe, man. You worry about what you're going to wear today.

Stupid stuff, man. Let's come to school. Let's come to work naked. Fuck it. You know what I mean? I like that. I don't think I know what I'm saying. You come naked until someone say you can't do that.

Okay. Okay. So the day one, the first time I show up naked. Don't worry about that. See, you'll be, you're the type of guy that'll be worried about going to work naked before you go to work naked. Yes.

You got to go to work naked before you worry about going to work naked. Guilty is charged. You never know. I definitely worry about going to work naked. You do it first and then you let someone tell you you can't do that. Okay.

I like that. So we'll do naked then. It's not a rule until you break it. Right. That's the way I look at it. Better ask for forgiveness. Signs go up after people do stuff. Yeah.

You were going to store and it says no shirt, no shoes. And they say, you know, you can't do that. You can't walk in the store with no shirt, no shoes. No why? Cause someone walked in there with no shirt, no shoes. And that was established that we don't want to do that no more. So we're going to put a sign up, shirt and shoe required.

You can't walk in here barefoot. And you can't walk here with no goddamn shirt on. See, it goes up after the fact. Yeah. You can loiter anywhere you want until they put a sign up that says no trespassing. And you can ride the skateboard anywhere you want. And so someone say, it's not a good idea

for these young people to be riding a damn skateboard on these, on everything, doing jumps off it, off the benches and stuff. All right. What about, what about this issue I've been dealing with? I've been scheduled to play in a rock, paper, scissors tournament for like the last week or so. I'm nervous because I'm not very good at rock, paper, scissors.

How, do you have any recommendations for me to like, do I go double rock right off the bat? Am I too much in my own head? How do I deal with that? In your, in your damn head. See, here's the thing. You don't know how to play rock, paper, scissors. Right?

You're not good at it. You don't know how to play it. Is there anything else you know how to play? You know how to play checkers? You know how to play chess? Yeah, I played, I played both. Here, here's what you got to do. You got to play rock, paper, scissors,

like you play in chess. See? Okay. You got to play it in your head like something you know how to play. Now play video games? Yeah. Yeah.

What's your favorite game? Fortnite? Recently, yeah. You play, you play rock, paper, scissors as if you play in war zone. Okay, so I just don't do anything. You guys should play each other right now. Play each other right now.

I just crouch in the corner and don't move it. Okay. You want to go? I don't know how to play, see? Okay. But if I, if I was to play, I would play it as if I'm playing John Matten on PS5. You know what I'm saying?

Gotcha. See, I would have a play in my head. Do you like the new Matten? I don't like it. I fucking, I love it. Really? I think it's more, yeah, I like it. I like it.

Of course the PS4 version is nice, but I do, I do like the change. And I do like, you know, learning something different. It's too realistic. The movements are like, they've tried to refine it. I kind of liked it when it was just like, you know, guys would run straight line, you know, take a hard right, then run a straight line again.

I like it realistic, bro. You know what? It's so real. That PS5 version of Matten is so real. I got injured last week playing that shit. You feel me? I got, I fucking got injured, bro. I was out for five weeks, you know?

You gotta be, it better be real. It better be realistic. That game is great. Now, if you're gonna apply, you apply that concept of stopping someone, of playing offensive moves, of running that ball, play action, setting the pass up, kicking the field goals, all the things that applies to football,

to rock, paper, scissors, you can't, your ass can't be beat. You can't be beat. Can't be beat. I'm ready, I'm ready to run through a brick wall. Wait, who's your team? Who do you play with in Matten? You know what?

I'm in a league right now. A lot of times, a lot of your team teams get taken. People already have them. So right now, I'm playing with the Panthers. Okay. I like McCaffrey. I call him, you got some quick ass feet. I like him, because I can, whoa, whoa, whoa.

I can dip a little bit, hit that sideline. I'm gone. I'm ghost. I'm fucking ghost. But I do love using, you know what, I like using teams that, you know, with the league, you're building, you're building your team.

So your teams won't remain the same forever. You know, you kind of build your, you know, teams, you ride through them, you have people retire, people, you trading, you're doing the draft. You know, we do the whole thing, you know? So right now I'm using the Panthers right now. I'm doing pretty good success.

So are you going to do the roster update and get Sam Donald on the team? You know what? We are updating our roster right now. But majority of the time we, as the trades happen, we update everything. So yeah, Sam Donald will be, you know, and I'm a jet fan.

So Sam Donald will be on the Panthers. You know what I mean? So, but we'll see what happens. How do we happen, man? As a jet fan, how do you feel about that? Are you excited about, you know, finally getting to move on, maybe taking Zach Wilson for like second overall?

I'm excited. I'm just, I'm just not a big fan of restarts all the time. You know what I mean? No, it's kind of like you kicking somebody's ass and online. And every time you just annoys the shit out of me, when you're kicking somebody's ass and mad, is this some random person in the world, you know,

online and you're kicking their ass like 42 to three. And you, the whole time you're scoring, you're saying, oh, he's going to turn this shit off in a minute. Oh yeah. He's going to turn this shit off in a minute. Oh, he's going to quit in a minute. The whole time you're playing, you know this guy's going to quit.

Every touchdown, you're saying, okay, he's going to quit this time. If I stop him one more time, he's going to quit. And that's what's going on. See, sometimes life gets in the way and you got to quit sometimes. But see, you got to have the patience to understand that you're about to restart.

They're just going to understand that we're about to restart again, learn a new player. Players got to learn the players. Players got to learn each other. Players got to learn their timing. All the things that come with restarting some, it's like starting a new relationship. You know, you get a new lady.

You got to learn her rhythm. You got to learn her little spots. She's like, let me touch that. You got to learn how to hold her hand. Hell, you got to learn, have you started dating a new girl and you used to put your hand around your waist and walking and that shit is disjointed?

Like you can't get your rhythm with the way how fast she walking compared to how fast their previous lady was walking. And now you all off, you clumsy as hell. You tripping, you tripping now because you don't know how to walk with her. You all are not in sync yet. You got to learn how she,

you got to learn how she walk. You got to learn how she make love. You got to, you got to, you got to, she make a food different. Everything tastes different. All the food's different. And when you go to a restaurant, she order different.

She complains different. You man, everything changes. Right now, just about to get into another relationship with another quarterback and they got to learn this person. They got to put their hand around this new quarterback's waist and walk with them and make sure their fucking feet don't tangle up together

and they fucking fall on their goddamn face. Right, but was it sex really that great with Adam Gase to begin with? Like, I feel like it's, yeah, you got to learn something else, but you were in an abusive relationship right before, right? You better, hey, it's all about what kind of relationship you are trying to have with said person.

And every relationship don't work, man. Some things just don't work. And sometimes, you know, it don't work from the get go. But guess what? Sometimes you stay there. Sometimes you stay in that relationship too long. You stay too fucking long. Yeah.

And now you're tainted. Everybody else are in your circle. All your fans, everybody who watch these games, now they're all, they're all frustrated. Everybody's tainted now. Now nobody trusts you. Now nobody trusts you. They don't know where we're going to go right now.

Never got to start all over again. Of course, you got to start back over at some point because no one, no relationship lasts forever. Some don't last forever. Some do, but some don't last forever. You got to have the right situation. You got to satisfy so many people. And because we are all a product of the route

we have already taken. So, you know how the jet fans, you know? And someone, someone uttered one day, same old jets. Somebody did that one day. Yeah. And now people can't, now people can't stop saying it. You know why? Because somebody said that shit.

Somebody said it, and now they can't stop saying it. It can't, it can't, it can't unsee it. Yeah. Now, every time something happens, we thinking, okay, let's see what happens. Let's see what we're going to do now. You know what I mean? And I met that, I met, I'm in that little wonder right there.

You know, you got to love your team. You got to support your team. But now, I don't know if I got, I don't know if I got nervous energy now, or if I got anticipation as to what is waiting for us on the horizon. What are we going to do? What are we going to do now?

You're buzzing though. Yeah. That's a fun part. That's a fun part. Being like, who's this next guy going to be? He might be incredible. Yeah, but here's the thing. He might be incredible.

But young people cannot learn from young people. You understand? That's a good quote. It cannot learn from young people. You know, people got to learn from people who, players got to learn from players who've done it, who's won a championship before, who's done something amazing where you can be inspired

to do the same damn thing. And, you know, we all have a certain timeline. We are, you are living in your timeline, and you are living in your timeline right now. And I'm just hoping in my timeline, I'm going to have to see these dams do something amazing. I'm waiting for it. I want to see it.

I want to see it happen, you know, in my timeline. You understand? This is a little misdirection, but are you going to be in season 11 of Curb Your Enthusiasm? Let me tell you something right now, man. As I speak, I'm off today. But as I speak, they are shooting episodes today.

Oh! I worked yesterday. So yes, we are having a great time already. And, you know, it's going to be amazing as always, man. You know how we do. What's LD's mood at right now? Is he excited about this? Because I've read articles where he, like,

he loves doing it, but he also kind of dreads doing it. I think it's one of those things where, I think that's with anything, man. I think you anticipate what's coming. You know what you do well. And, you know, and you want to give people exactly what they love about you, about the show. And you want to be consistent with it, you know what I mean?

And that applies to Curb Your Enthusiasm and also applies to sports and anything else you can think of. You need consistency. You know, you want people to, I can't wait to see what we put on the field. And that's where we are. We are, I can't, hey, I'm there. I'm there working and I can't wait for you

to see what we put on the field. You know what I'm saying? That's how, that's the way that I put it in. Because I think we put, I think Larry puts an amazing team of people on the show. And I can't wait for you guys to see what's going to happen, man. If you're a true, true Curb fan

and follow the show religiously, man, you actually know what to expect. And one thing about Curb is the show is very consistent and tackling anything and everything that unnerves us. It's saying it's a cringe worthy. Cringe worthy is a good word for it, you know? And I think people love the cringe and love Larry's take on the world.

And we're just a part of it, man. Yeah. What's the vibe like? It'll be a part of the show. On set, cause I know that, you know, you go into each scene. I think you shared this with us last time. You have a direction you want to go.

You got certain main points that you want to hit and you want to get from point A to point B. Do as much funny stuff as you can between see where that takes you. Is there somebody that is like the, I don't want to say the Jimmy Fallon of that set, but somebody who can't keep it together as much as everybody else that you have to stop a lot

because that person keeps laughing. Larry's the king, Larry's the ultimate king of giggles. You kind of catch him on his heels a little bit. His right side of his mouth goes up in the air a little bit. And he's like, and you know you got him on his heels. You know, we, you know, he's number one. He's number one on the list of giggles.

When you see that though, when you see his mouth start to bend up, is that like for you or do you smell blood in the water? Are you like, I'm going to go hard at this? As a comedian, stand up comedian, I smell blood. You know, a lot of people want to make you laugh. I want to make a snot bubble come out your goddamn nose. You know what I mean?

And to me, the snot bubble is the ultimate. The ultimate for a comedian. A snot bubble, wet your pants, that kind of stuff. That's the ultimate. A good old snot bubble. Have you ever made anybody piss their pants? Of course I did. Of course I did.

I did a show one time in Tampa, Florida. And this lady came up to me after the show. She had a coat on, a trench coat. And she said, look what you made me do. Open her coat up and her outfit was wet. Wet. Are you sure that was pissed or was she just trying to see you after the show?

No, that was pissed, man. She was embarrassed. She was embarrassed. She showed me what was going on and she walked away. And she said, oh my God, I can't believe I did this. But that's what we do. A comedian would mark that down as an accomplishment. You understand?

Hell yeah. That's accomplishment. I mean, it's my pissed pants. People say it all the time. People say it all the time. But to actually see it, see it for itself. Sometimes they'll over exaggerate and say I made some pissed pants.

I killed this crowd. Stand novation. Everybody pissed in their pants. Bust a gut. People say bust a gut all the time. People say bust a gut all the time. But you don't see people walk out with guts hanging out the goddamn heat over their belt and shit.

I like how you say pissed their pants. I don't know. It's something about it. Pissed it. You pissed the pants. The pants. Yeah. There's something about it.

I had one last question, JB. This has been awesome. So you have the new podcast coming out. You're going to be giving people advice, inspiration every single day. What's the plan for it? Is it once a week? And is it just like you're going to sit down and just

let it go? This is called May I Elaborate, which is what I love to do. You know I love to elaborate. I'm an elaborator. So it's called May I Elaborate. It's going to be a daily podcast show. It's part of Team Coco. This is going to be so fun, man.

What I do is I take positive affirmations and I explode them. I give people, so it's a lot of times when you read these affirmations, you're confused as to what they actually mean and how do they apply to my life exactly. You know, people want inspiration. They want to be enlightened by someone. And there's no one better to enlighten your ass than me. I take that affirmation.

I take that zen moment. I take that these amazing quotes and I explode them. I blow them up. I elaborate on them. I give you clarity for you to continue your beautiful day. You tune in to be motivated. And there's no one better at motivating someone than J.B. Smooth.

I motivate the shit out of you. A lot of people shake shit out of you. I shake shit into you. Woo! I like it. Put it on the quote board. Take it off. Take it off.

Take it off. That's what people need sometimes. People are going to shake shit out of you. I want to shake shit into you. Yeah. I like that. You feel me? Yes.

And it's going to be so fun, man. It's myself and my good friend and writing partner Miles. And we just, you know, it's simple. It's in the simplest form. You want to hear things in the simplest form that allows you to digest it, man. I allow you to digest what the fuck I'm talking about. And I keep it 100.

People say to keep it 100. I keep it 150. You know, I keep it real with you. I know exactly where you are. I know we are dealing with trying times right now. And sometimes you need somebody to just to help your ass out. Yeah, that's great. I think you just motivated us to listen to the podcast.

Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. It's fun. It's fun shit, bro. I promise you it's fun. Yeah. And you guys are going to enjoy it, man.

And it's, you know, sometimes you need a little more. Sometimes you don't need a full bite. You just need a little more, so sometimes. I love it. If I applied that shit to sports, I say sometimes you need a first down here and there. Woo! Shit!

Just move the chain. You need a first down. Sometimes you need a fucking first down sometimes. Sometimes it ain't about scoring sometimes. Sometimes as long as they don't score on you, they can't beat you. Yeah. Shit. Love it.

Don't get me started. Don't get me, don't get me started. Love it. Get me started. All right. Well, JB, thank you so much. Everyone go subscribe. We're going to drop this the week that your new podcast launches.

So go check it out. May I elaborate daily wisdom from JB smooth. Always a pleasure, man. And hopefully we can do this again in person next time. Hey, man, we will do this in person. You know, don't see you fucking up again. I did. I did.

You said hopefully. Time line is fucking up. You know, don't confuse the time line. Your time line is all, you're overlapping shit, bro. I know. Don't use the word hopefully. We will do this in person again very soon. We're going to say that to the universe.

I already saw you in the future. Yeah. I'll see you again soon. I'm still tired in the future. Fucking right. You're fucking right. Yeah. Level out, baby.

I'm going to level out. I'm going to level out next time we see you. I love it. You know what I'm going to do next time we hang out in person? We should drink a shitload of water beforehand. And you have to. The interview is not over till you make us piss our pants. Yeah.

Or bust our guts. Hey, there we go. Yeah, I'll cut my stomach just a little bit. Like, you can laugh at Japanese generally. Oh my god, that's crap. You're damn right. You better be prepared, man. I'm going to make them guts fly all out.

And you're going to wait to piss at the same time. Both. Both, baby. Both. Yes. All right. Love it, man. All right.

Thanks so much, JB. Love you guys, man. Be safe out there, man. We'll do this real soon. Yes, absolutely. See you, man. Thank you so much. Later.

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where you can find their newest and their best selection. Now here he is, NFL Draft Senior Analyst, Stephen Che. Okay, we now welcome on first time guest, one of our best friends in the entire world. It is, what is, you're senior draft analyst for Barstool Sports. Yes. I thought you were a draft associate.

Did I screw that up? No, he got promoted. But everyone else got promoted ahead of him. So he has seven bosses. But you were a one-time draft associate. Yes. I was a one-time junior draft analyst. I was demoted last year after a fiasco

during the NFL draft that we did, the stream, in which I got a bad tip and went with it on air. Oh, wow, so you were blaming your sources. All right, so that show we'll be back on Thursday. It is Stephen Che. Make sure you check him out. He also has a great podcast called The Surf and Turf Podcast. Go download it with Joey Monaro and Willie Cologne.

I still don't know why it's called Surf and Turf, but... What's it called now? The Going Deep Podcast. Going Deep. What does that mean? Like going deep for a pass. Ooh. You really are a student of Bruce Arians.

Wait, wait, wait. There's no double-on-todder there. It's not also that you're going deep on a subject. It's just about a pass. Well, yeah, it is going deep on a subject. Like, the interviews are longer form, so yes. They're like 30, 40 minute interviews. I was hoping it was just about going deep on a pass.

No, it's what you need the best cast after. I mean, that's what the logo is. I mean, the first iteration was Surf and Turf, which still no one has ever given me an answer what that fucking meant. All right, so Steven is going to... We have Daniel Jeremiah, who is Steven Chase. Would you say he's your hero?

One of my work professional idols, yes. Okay, all right, professional idols. Are we professional idols of yours? I consider you guys coworkers. I mean, I work at parts of the world. Oh, wow. All right, that's a little presumptuous. Okay, that's true.

There are people watching on video, the bench press behind you, I assembled with my bare hands. That's true. You are a... Yes. You're a draft expert, expert. I think you know more about draft experts than anybody else at this company.

If you had a big board, who... Give me your top four, your big board of draft experts. Big board of draft experts or draft prospects? draft experts. Okay, does this include like kind of retired guys? Cause may... Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, no, do four and then do a fifth

for maybe a retired contributor. Yeah. Emeritus. Number one's gotta be DJ Daniel Jeremiah. I mean, he does this year round. He was actually the first podcast that I got into. By the way, he's not DJ.

Like with Peggy, Peggy texted us, or who's one of our workers. She's the best. Our greatest booker. Yeah, our greatest booker. We're gonna buy her a bag, but Peggy texted us, he's like, hey, you got DJ next week.

I was like, we got Dustin Johnson. And she's like, no, Daniel Jeremiah. I was like, that's not DJ. That 100% is DJ. No, okay. You're completely outing yourself as a non football guy. Wow.

Wow. Okay. No, I'm a football guy. I'm not a draft guy. All right. DJ's number one. Yep. DJ number one.

So, character wise, Kuiper is probably number one, but like content wise, DJ is above them. DJ puts out stuff year round. Kuiper is awesome from January through April.

And he's such a character. I mean, you know, talking with McShay. One of the more shocking facts you guys didn't bring up, he goes through a lazy boy recliner. Every one to two years. His brain is a draft. The anecdote that I saw floating around this week

is that he still watches old shows, but at the correct time slot. So he like, he watches the show Dallas, but he'll watch it at eight o'clock on like Tuesdays. Whenever Dallas 30 years ago used to air, that's how like detail oriented in his mind is a draft where he can't deviate like, oh, I can't watch this show. It's not, it's not, it's like,

I can't watch a show at 10 o'clock. That's not when it aired. How do you go through a lazy boy a year? How do you sit that hard city? I don't know. It's one of the, it's a Kuiperism. It also could easily be explained that the man who rips cheese off his pizza,

eats a pumpkin pie every morning and also has like a mashed potatoes addiction, probably has some spills. Yeah, that's true. It might not be that he like goes through a lazy boy a year. He just knows that it's time to replace. His wife replaces his lazy boy once a year. He'd break.

They'd break. And he's not like a heavy guy. No, he breaks one a year. He's just living hard. He's sitting hard. I actually respect that. Do everything a hundred percent. Yup.

Okay. All right. I would say those are like pretty clearly the top two. Number three might be a guy you might be less familiar with but Dane Bruebler. So, Dane Bruebler works for the athletic he puts out. Draft guide every year called The Beast. It's like 250 to 300 pages every single year.

It's basically every prospect that is draft. Say no more. He named his draft The Beast. Yeah. He's obviously up there. Yup. And then number four, it's tough because I love Mick Shea. He's the front of the program.

So, some listeners may remember me from a couple of years ago. You guys brought me on for a Mick Shea interview and I kind of grilled him because I do listen to his podcast, the first draft podcast with Kuiper. And I gave him some shit about it because he taped the podcast like on the side of the road once. This year he's had a lot. And I texted you yesterday.

He was a very lucky guy that I had in my kid last week and it was not in the office because I would have given a lot of guff to this guy. Oh, it would have been guff? The podcast, he's shown up very late for audio issues. I mean, Todd's got to get it together. So, Todd's actually going to fall out of my top four because of this.

You guffed him. Wow. Yup. We're going to go with a newcomer, Matt Miller, who's at ESPN as well. He's very great, very thorough. He's to be able to work. Newcomer.

I mean, he's been doing this for like 10, 12 years. Newcomer to like the mainstream. The mainstream. Matt Miller also gets dinged a little. I like Matt Miller a lot. I've been following him for a long time. He gets dinged though because he did have that take about Edelman being a Hall of Famer

and then just combined Edelman and Welker's careers. He's like, Edelman was Brady's go-to for 11 straight years. That's fair. He also gets dinged by Marcus Spears basically on the daily on Get Up. Everything that he says, Marcus Spears just puts you in a locker, yeah. All right, and then your Emeritus

or maybe even in Memoriam drafts, you know. I mean, Mike Mann, Mike Mann. Mike Mann at the greatest would put out one mock draft every year and it'd be the day before the draft. Absolute best. He's not doing any more because he's with the Raiders as the GM, but Daniel Jeremiah has picked this up. Every year there is a media call

where the guys will host a call with local media. So, you know, whatever, Detroit Free Press, Pittsburgh Gazette, Post Gazette, et cetera. And all these reporters will call in and ask questions about their specific teams. Daniel Jeremiah is great. He's continued the tradition, does it for about an hour. Mayox for like three hours, must listen stuff.

I listened to it several times just to make sure I had all my points, but one of my students could not find it on the internet. Like you had to go to like a very weird streaming service or like a webpage that basically you didn't, you couldn't download it. You'd have to listen to it through, like straight through. And if you're a page refresh or anything, you were screwed.

So I'm glad they fixed that. They now put it on the move of six feet, but. Okay. For people who don't understand Stephen Chay, everything that he says is a hundred percent serious. There is no bit, there's no joke. So when he says like Mayox conference call day was one of the best days of his calendar year.

It's real. It's very real. Yes, yes, definitely. Did you ever get a chance to ask more question? Yes, so 2010 draft was at Radio City Musical. I attended the NFL draft from 2005 to 2011. Every single year, it was the year that Gerald McCoy and endemic ensue.

Sam Bradford, number one, they were kind of the one too. The Bucks had the three pick. I'm a Bucks fan, Super Bowl champs, not a big deal. So I asked, you know, the first round it was when it was the first round only in prime time. So they just moved it there. And he was, I saw him and he was like kind of walking back, you know, in an area with common people.

And he was famous, but he wasn't like, I guess he's as famous as he is now. He's very famous to me. He's not that famous to most people. I also liked it, just to interrupt real quick. I liked this story like you're pretending like you saw him at an airport. You saw him at the draft where he was working.

Yeah. He was like, I saw him at the draft. I like how he calls it like everybody who's not Mike Mayock common people. Yeah. Everybody else and then Mike. Yes, okay. Yeah.

So he was one of the few guys that had Gerald McCoy over endemic ensue after Sue had a dominant college season. So I wanted to ask as a Bucks fan, hey, can you kind of talk to me about the score? Why do you like McCoy over Sue? End of the night, it's probably 1130 at night. Everyone's tired. He had been talking all day.

He goes, all right, yeah, no problem. He's like, you know what? My hotel's like 10 minutes from here, just walked me. I was in the city of the time. Great. Mike Mayock walked and talked with me for 10 minutes through New York city, just me and my friend. Incredible experience.

No, forget it. Nicest guy. Wow. Did he invite you upstairs? No. Oh, have a great show tomorrow. Nice job. Thanks so much for talking to me.

Was there like a moment where it's like, am I going to kiss Mike Mayock? No, no, never. Not even a second. Like, did you lock eyes for a second? No, but I mean, we were walking and talking next to each other, pure draft. Right, so you guys hit it off.

Let's say Mike Mayock, he initiates. He leans in when he gets back to his hotel. Do you kiss him back? No, absolutely not. OK, absolutely not. OK, all right. All right, so Stephen, your draft credentials are there. Seven straight years of going to the draft?

I believe so. 05 to 11, yeah. And you were one of the weirdos who sat out front like we didn't get it. Oh, yeah. That was maybe the best day of the year, because in New York, it used to be, well, I think the draft's still free.

But when it was at Radio City, it went to the first years of the Javits Center, I believe, and then it was at Radio City thereafter. Late April, every weirdo that loves the team flies to New York wearing their team jerseys late April. You just want to talk ball with other people. Absolute best. You're way out there from like 6 p.m. till sometimes they

didn't give out wristbands like 6 a.m. But you just be talking draft, talking football with a bunch of other hardcore football fans. Absolute best. It is the funniest scene. I went and did a man on the street two years in a row when he was in Chicago. And it is like every guy you, every guy

who you've ever seen in a stadium who wears the oversized ring helmet, every guy who the super fans that are kind of pseudo celebrities, they all hang out and they all know each other. And it's very funny to watch. Oh, yeah. And then you're standing on a line. You see a cowboy spin come.

The whole line boos. That was a fun event. God damn it. This is just genuine fun. All right, let's do. So we're going to do our top 10. Daniel Jeremiah, DJ, sent us, if you remember, two weeks ago we had him on.

He said that he had a list of old draft terms that he would use in the scouting department in the room, in the war room. So we said, can you send it to us? Because that's hilarious. And he sent it to us. We all have it. What we're going to do is PFT and I

are going to do a top 10 picks of the terms. So it's basically PFT and I are like in our own war room. We're going to pick a term. And then you're going to give us the player that coincides with that term. The player that best is used to describe that term in this year's draft. So let's do it.

What was it? We had a unanimous number one. Yes, you go ahead. It's the Vonte Mac no matter what. It's one pop daddy. The one pop daddy? OK, so that's going to be an offensive lineman, typically. That's going to get his hands on you and it's over.

Now in the modern day NFL, I guess not modern day, but Larry Allen will be a one pop daddy. In this draft class, I would say Tevin Jenkins at Oklahoma State. He is a big time blocker. He finishes everybody. When he gets his hands on you, it's over. So Tevin Jenkins one pop daddy.

Do you ever get uncomfortable referring to like 19-year-old kids as being daddies? No, not in this town. When we're talking football, everything's kind of off limits. Yeah, that's true. All right, this is a normal world in here. All right, number two, so we haven't discussed this, but we'll discuss it on the side here, Steven.

So no cheating off this. I think we should go, I just love Dumpy. Dumpy's good. Dumpy's good. Because it's just such a hurtful thing to say about. I feel like we both know what Dumpy is. Yes. Like Brandon Walker.

Yes. That's what I think of. No, he's at the gym now. He's at the church. Yeah, but let's go. All right, our number two pick is going to be Dumpy. OK, so he's going to be a target for a lot of this stuff, but he played right tackle at Michigan Jalen Mayfield.

He's probably going to move inside the guard because his arms aren't really a required size to play on the outside. What's required size? He's like a, he's your classic like bad body guy, but he's a better football player. So in the off season circuit where everyone's testing and they got their shirts off, like a perfect example of this

is Dumpy is like Andre Smith, the tackle for the Bengals. He went like six overall. He ran the 40 with his shirt off. Yeah. And just kind of had his, you know, man boobs flopping everywhere. That's kind of what you're going to see. So Jalen Mayfield, Dumpy, he could be a couple of terms, unfortunately.

What would you like to see out of your arm size for your offensive linemen? Do you have a number? Like, is it similar to the hand size for quarterbacks? Oh yeah. All this stuff has numbers. So like all the testing, there is like a baseline group that you're going to want to be in.

Like you have a corner and it varies by position. So like, you know, wide receiver hand size is different than quarterback hand size. Right. 40s are different. As far as offensive tackles, arm size, you're going to want to see 34 inches and above. I believe Mayfield's like 32 and change.

So that kind of limits him. Elijah Vera Tucker is a good one who played guard at USC and then moved to tackle this past season. Played very well, but his arms I think are 32 and an eighth. So that kind of restricts him and you're probably going to figure he's going to kick inside the guard. But what if you got wide shoulders? Don't those inches like make up on the inside sometimes?

No, because most of the times you're going against, you know, edge rushers that are going to be in the, you know, 34 and above range. When we're talking, you know, such close quarters, an inch, two inches makes a lot of difference. So if an edge rusher can get his hands inside much easier than you're able to block that, that's a problem. OK, OK. So all right, next up.

I've got a couple I'm looking at. Yeah, I've circled a few as well. So I've got card carrying coward. OK, I like that. I think I know what it means, but I want to I want to know what the card carrying part of the card means. And then I've got, wait, we haven't made our decision yet. We haven't made our decision yet.

Thin pegs. Thin pegs. Although let's let's hold on to think pegs, because I think I know who that would be. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, all right, let's do that. Let's think that ass is the other one that I just like, because it seems like something that you was doing. Like yeah, that you would do like at the Jersey Shore.

Yeah, back it up. All right, so let's do let's do card carrying coward card with the third pick in the term draft. We select card carrying coward. So card carrying coward is kind of a tough one. What it means is that it's a player that doesn't have a lot of courage. So typically they're going to see us in like the cornerback

position, guys that necessarily don't like to tackle historically, historically, and I'll debate this, so you can look at kind of one of our coworkers as not necessarily, I don't believe in this. I don't believe that he was, but a lot of people will say he's not like a tackling guy, which is Deon Sanders. Again, I don't believe that for the record. He has this view of that, but that is, that's a term where

if you're looking at a cover corner specifically, and they don't really, you know, mix it up or get in the pile a lot, that is what you would kind of term a card carrying coward. There aren't a lot of guys in these, in this draft that are going to be, you know, people that are going to know these are going to be very late round guys if any, but card carrying coward is kind of a tough one

because we're going to look at a corner that really doesn't like to get, doesn't like to mix it up and those guys don't get drafted a lot. Now is that always like a cornerback, a defensive player, or could a triple C be a wide receiver, like a Ted Ginn that loves a sideline? Yeah, I mean, you could, you could certainly use that term for, you know, a receiver that gets out of bounds

like Marvin Harris, and technically could be like a card game. I could not call Marvin Harrison a coward if I were you, Steven, he'll shoot you. Yeah, you're going to be deader than Jimmy Garoppolo. I should, I should clarify when I'm speaking, I'm speaking only within the white lines. So, okay, so we will, you don't have anyone in the draft,

so we'll just put Deion Sanders next to this and we'll just make it clear that Steven Chase said that. All right, next up, next up, how about, all right, do you want to do, sync that ass? The other one I really like is just sand. Let's do sand. I feel like sync that ass will still be on the board in a couple of picks.

So sand. Sure, so sand refers to like weight. It's very hard to move a lot of sand. So the guy needs more sand in his ass or in his backside. They need a little bit more weight. They have a little bit of a more flat ass. These are going to refer to typically like offensive or defensive linemen.

Sand, as far as this draft class, I would say, let's go like Liam Eichenberg, the left tackle out of Notre Dame. I was about to say that, yeah. He used a guy, you know. The Sandman. I think like 305 could use a little bit more weight, especially in the bottom half.

That's a guy who could use a little bit more sand. Okay, so that's actually an example of somebody that doesn't have sand. That's what the term refers to, is sand that typically need more. You never used it in the majority. Got it, okay. If you have what would be called too much sand

and you're talking like bubble or like a big ass, that's what that would refer to. Like Booth. Like Booth from the Giants was the ultimate Sandman. Sure, yeah. Biggest ass in the league. Yeah. Okay, there's a fifth pick?

Fifth pick. What about Red Star? I like that. Red Star is that? I'm gonna, wait, wait, wait. Let's try to figure out what it is before he gives it. What do you think Red Star is? I think, maybe always injured.

It might be like from a video game if there's a Red Star next to somebody. Where is it? Under what? It's under? Competitiveness? No. Where is Red Star?

I like just, there's one that's just fraud. Yeah, it's right underneath fraud. Okay. It's underneath fraud and fake tough. Oh, is it a communist? No, I think it's someone who's a communist star. Yeah, it might be. All right.

Yeah, Steven, Red Star. Sure, so Red Star is, every team has a bunch of under the GM, there's the director of player personnel, director of college scouting, et cetera. And there's a bunch of area scouts. Everybody has a Red Star. So that is a guy that they're basically

staking their reputation on. Like, this is my guy. I am sure he's gonna do good. DJ, for example. So I don't know if that's the term that everyone uses, but DJ has talked about it a lot on his podcast. His Red Star guy is linebacker at a Kentucky Jamie and Davis.

That's a guy that's like, this guy's not gonna bust. I know that this guy is legit. He's the guy we should draft on our team. I am fully vouching for this guy. I have one Red Star. Okay. He's my Red Star. I call it the stand on the table guy. That's how, when I was coming up,

well, the Red Star thing seems kind of new. And my day was like, Kyle Shanahan stood on the table for Matt Shaw. Yep. Wait, so give us Steven Chase, Red Star. Red Star guy, I mean, we have a bunch of like, kind of shored things in this track. No, no, no.

I want Steven Chase, Red Star. Okay. My Red Star guy, honestly, Justin Fields. I don't, I think everyone's overthinking Justin Fields. The fact that he's not gonna be a top three quarterback. If you want a little bit deeper than that, if we want a little bit outside the, you know, the top 10 Rashad Bateman wide receiver out of Minnesota. I just, you know,

everybody looks at the size, speed, measurables and things like that. He's just a guy that separation, as far as route running, catching over the middle stuff, he's going to translate instantly. So he's probably going to be a second round guy, maybe a late first, but Rashad Bateman outside of, you know, Justin Fields,

would be my Red Star guy. Got it. Okay. Good one. Wait, is that your Mel Kuiper? Like if he doesn't turn out to be a pro bowler, you have to quit, right? That's what Mel Kuiper did with Jimmy Klosson. Well, we'll just demote him again. Fair, but I also have,

I also have my take that Devante Smith is not going to be a top 10 pick, which is now as of an hour ago in the Varsal Sports Book in Illinois and Michigan. Okay. Yeah, I don't think he's going to be a top 10 either. I'm on the record of saying that. You want to just do it. You want to, you want to,

you want to explain your Devante Smith take and we'll just go with, what was it? What was he? He's a- There's a lot of terms that Devante Smith could be in here. Oh wow. Thin pegs. Thin pegs. So I assume, yeah.

Yep. So Devante Smith is a guy who, during the season was listed at six feet and a half, 175 pounds. He weighed in officially a couple of weeks ago at 166 pounds. I had the take during the national championship, which I get is kind of a wet blanket move, right after his second touchdown before his third touchdown on the first half.

Something to the tune of, I think Devante Smith is going to be awesome, but I cannot see a team spending a top 10 pick on a 175 pound wide receiver. And I got crushed. Absolutely crushed. Everyone was calling me an idiot. I have all the tweets saved.

The fact of the matter is, the past five years, there has been one draft where there has been a wide receiver taken on the top 10. Additionally, he is not like a height, weight, speed guy. He's not like a Hercules type guy. When you look at top 10 wide receiver draft picks, you're talking about Andre Johnson, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald.

Guys that are huge, guys that are also very fast. Devante Smith is very good. He deserved when the eyes went incredible season. But as far as drafting, you're drafting traits over production. A great example of that is a guy at Penn State, Jason Oway, who had zero sacks this year, and it's probably going to be a first rounder

or a high second round. I mean, teams draft traits over productions, trust their coaching staff to maximize that. So you can't just be like, okay, he won the Heisman trophy. He's a lock, top 10 pick. He's great. Not everything's going to translate to the NFL.

I do, for the record, think he will be a very good player. He's just such a natural. But his body type does not make sense as far as what teams look for, especially with a top 10 pick. Counterpoint, counterpoint. I think that we've kind of shifted a little where teams are now being a little bit more outside the box.

I actually saw an anecdote. Someone shared it in the Seahawks war room the year they drafted Russell Wilson. They basically just sat there and they're like, does anyone have anything they don't like about Russell Wilson besides his height? And no one could come up with anything. They were like, no, like everything else we love.

So I feel like Devonte Smith and he might not go top 10, but it's a similar conversation where is there anything you don't like about him besides his weight? And I don't think there is. The problem is not necessarily his weight because like he was listed at 175. He had several months to gain weight and puff up. He got to 166.

So he was several pounds below that. There's another guy, Jeremiah Wusukoramoa, on a linebacker out of Notre Dame who was similar thing, rumored to be playing in like the 202, 201 pound range. He weighed in at 211 pounds. That's a huge range. Well, I'm just saying like he's weighing in at like basically my weight playing linebacker.

That is very tough to sustain as far as injury wise. Now he had some time, got up to 221, which is still light for a linebacker, but it's like, okay, at least this guy can put on weight. Devante Smith just does not have the frame. And I saw, I think Chris Sims argued it. He does not have the frame to add more weight because he had several months to do so

and still couldn't do it. So I don't see how he gets into an NFL program. And then all of a sudden gets to like 185 or 190. Like he just needs more sand. He needs sand. He's an Alabama. Chris Sims, I think had him going six though to the Dolphins. Yeah, I've actually seen a few people

that have him in the top 10. Yeah, so I mean, part of my take was that I had five quarterbacks going in the top 10. And then the bottom three teams in the top 10, which were Carolina, Denver, and Dallas, all drafted receivers pretty high recently. And Carolina has two very good picks. DJ Moore, not super recent, but I just didn't really see it.

Now, if Miami trades down, that could certainly change things. And Devante Smith certainly does have a chance. Seven is a maybe problem spot for the Lions because at the time, I thought they were gonna franchise Kenny Galladay. They did not. So they do have a need there,

but Dan Campbell, a guy talking about biting guys' kneecaps off with his first overall pick, is he gonna draft a 166 pound wide receiver? That doesn't make sense. Well, he plays bigger than his weight. That's the thing about him. Yeah, he is small, but I mean, he's probably the toughest. If you're gonna be a 166 pounds,

and you're gonna win the Heisman Trophy, you're probably the toughest 166 pound person in college football. So I mean, he plays on special teams. He's been a gunner, so he's definitely tough. He run black, so I do like him as a player. I just don't see him being a top 10 pick. So you were talking about how you had this take

when you were watching the national title game in between touchdowns two and three that he wasn't gonna be a top 10 pick. Is that what your brain is like all the time? Like when you're watching the national championship, you know, a fun football game, a college football game, your brain is just thinking like, how do these guys project at the next level?

Of course. For people who don't know, Steven Che, his team, he is a Die Hard Bucks fan. He loves the Bucks. He's obsessed with the Bucks. He had a mock draft out 12 hours after the Bucks won the Super Bowl. Correct.

Okay. I mean, the Bucks have been bad for a very long time, and I've been so into the draft. That just made sense that I'm always looking forward, typically around like Halloween Thanksgiving, looking at, you know, Tankathon, see where we're gonna net out, looking at mock drafts,

see who's gonna be available. Obviously, you know, there's no better pick than 32, so I'm very happy about that. But I don't have a college football legend to a specific team. So all I'm thinking about when I'm watching college football is how are these guys gonna translate to the brooks?

And I should have, I should have said this at the top. Steven Che actually went to school. It was one of those like, like Trump University where you just pay someone a shitload of money and then you take a fake online course for scouting. So he actually has done the homework. What degree do you have? What's the title?

Offensive line and defensive line. Offensive line, defensive line, secondary, cornerbacks and safeties, and then wide receivers. It's the scouting academy and it's awesome. I mean, you can be, one of the instructors is Lewis Riddick. So you can, you know, take scouting classes

and kind of go over notes with Lewis Riddick. Does he took so many, how many hours did it take for you to do that? I mean, it's 20 hours a week. So I- We need to get you to, you need to work with Billy football. Like the fact that you were taking 20 hours a week, have a child, like, you know, have a full time job.

God damn it. We need, you also need to include that your email signatures. There needs to be like an acronym that you put after Steven Che. Wait, PhD? Yeah, PhD, or what's the official title of the certification you got?

I passed the module in the scouting academy. Pass the module. All right, we got eight, nine, 10. Let's do that and we'll wrap it up. All right, so eight, you wanna do the sync that ass? Yeah, let's do sync that ass. Sync that ass. Good values.

Sync that ass. Yep, so sync that ass is gonna be a guy that's able to, you know, anchor down, which is basically, you know, if he's getting bullrushed, he's able to anchor down, sync his ass and basically stop the impending rush. So a guy that I'm gonna see do this is Rashawn Slater out of Northwestern Offensive Tackle.

I mean, he can really sync that ass. He's, you know, 305 pounds, I think. He had his best game against Chase Young. That's what he's gonna get a lot of hype for. He opted out this year, but he's a guy that, you know, when you get into him, even though he's not huge, I think he's about six, four, he's able to sync that ass, get low,

and stop a bullrush. Rashawn Slater, Northwestern, sync that ass. Okay. I just love hearing Steven say, sync that ass. Yeah, sync that ass. He said it like six times. All right, we got two left.

We got two left. So I'm kind of interested to know the difference between naughty calves and balled up calves. Oh yeah, so let's do the combo pick. Yeah, naughty calves and balled up calves. What, which one's good? So they mean, a lot of these terms mean the same thing. It is just very strong calves.

So you look at their calves and you can basically see, you know, the muscles in there. This can pertain to a variety of positions. Naughty calves. Let's go with Jamar Chase. I mean, he's, you know, 208 pounds, I believe he's six feet tall, very big calves, just very filled out body.

Jamar Chase, naughty calves, balled up calves. Okay. And then last one, should we go? I should kind of like, I like fraud. Fraud? I know what that is. Stephen Chase is not going to do a fraud yet.

Oh, why don't we? No, let's just go old fashioned. Give us your number one coach killer in this draft. Coach killer. Oh, stop. Who's the quarterback from Liberty? I hope that this becomes like bulletin board material for whoever you name here.

Well, yeah, I'm trying to go through the guy's thing. Coaching regime changes is not something that I typically go through. No, but it doesn't have to be someone who's gotten their coach killed already. It could be like someone who's likely to get their coach killed at the next level. Right.

Oh, at the next level? Yeah, that's a coach killer. Okay. You could be a Boomer Bus guy who like, if you use a high draft pick on this guy, he doesn't pan out, he ends up being a coach killer. You know what was crazy? All time example of a coach killer, Jason Campbell,

I think five consecutive head coaches got fired in the NFL that Jason Campbell played for. And it wasn't really his fault. No. Just in like the worst situations repeatedly. But I don't think that'll ever be matched again. You could go, if you want to cop out, you can go with whoever you think

the Bears are going to take a QB because if the Bears take a QB and he's not good, he's a coach killer. So I think if we're putting in those terms, this one's pretty easy and it's Mack Jones because it is from what we've heard, Kyle Shanahan versus the personnel department in San Francisco for who's going to be the third pick.

Kyle Shanahan is, I don't want to say alone on the island, but he very much is beating the drum for Mack Jones. If Mack Jones does not turn out and Trey Lance and or Justin Fields turns out to be a very good player, we could be witnessing the beginning of the end to Kyle Shanahan. I'm so excited to put this on a quote card and have it like listed so that people see this

and just freak out at Steven Chey. Mack Jones is, Mack Jones, coach killer, Steven Chey's official coach killer of the 2021 draft. That's a good answer though. That is a good answer because you're right. Like if Mack Jones is not what Kyle Shanahan thinks he is, it will be tough to recover from that.

Also, Steven, I got a quick follow-up on that. You said that Kyle Shanahan more and more is on an island all by himself. How do you know that? Are you just saying what you've heard people say on television? I mean, I also have some sources within a league that I've talked to,

but a lot of it is stuff that you read. So I mean, I texted you today, yesterday congratulations for making both Monday morning columns. And it was kind of very prominent in those columns. It was talked about on Shepter's podcast that Kyle Shanahan kind of is on an island there. So everyone takes Shepter kind of at face value,

as you can see my background. But yeah, I mean, this is what you're hearing around the league and people I talk to kind of echo these things. Do you think it is weird that you have Adam Shepter's family in your background? No. The, you are the last person on earth

who thinks that like Peter King, like there's, he doesn't carry water for the NFL or like- No, you take Shepter at face value. Shepter, what you see is what you get with Adam Shepter. Like if I said to you, Peter King carries water for Roger Grinnell, would you disagree?

Yeah, I've met Peter King twice. Really good guy. I know that we don't have the best relationship with him at the moment. Well, he owes us money, yeah. Yeah, but he put PFT in his column yesterday. So maybe this is the beginning of- Unironically, that was like Steven's,

Steven was genuinely impressed with me. And also he texted me yesterday. I didn't answer the question too. Do you think Peter King carries water for the NFL? Okay, no, no, I don't. Okay, I know you don't. I know you don't. All right, Steven, any other last draft thoughts?

This has been positively delightful. I'll give you guys a couple of terms that I associated with a few guys. Some, maybe I'm surprised you didn't choose them. Are these originals? Or no, these aren't, these are DJs. These are from DJs. So I mean, this is,

this list is kind of, it's not like a hundred percent circulated, but this list for the most part, these are somewhat common terms. There are some original ones on here, but there are somewhat common terms like knee bender. That's going to be an offensive lineman. That's simply bigger.

That can really get down, bend his knees. Panayasool is a great one for that. Perky jerky movements. Rashad Bateman is really good for that and a little bit less of a traditional route runner. Oh, we also got here. Smooth Strider, Jamar Chase. Long Strider, Terrace Marshall Jr. at LSU.

Deliberate. I love this guy, Elijah Moore, wide receiver out of Ole Miss. Yeah. What's another good term for a short king? Is it fireplug? Is he a fireplug? No, we got two.

Waterbug? Micromidget, which is Rondale Moore. The wider-seams are out of Purdue. That's my guy. And then Jockey Tutu Atwell out of Louisville. He weighed in at 149 pounds. I mean, that is a tough measurement. Yeah.

What about, what is somebody who's wrapped? Like W-R-A-P-P-E-D. Is that someone who's like jacked up or someone who looks like they've got like a wrapping of fat around them? Wrapped, I haven't heard before, but like body beautiful or maxed out. These are terms like maxed out

is like you max out your frame. Dress up is another term where, you know, you can't really add on more weight. You're kind of at your body's maximum potential of bone mass and density. All right, let me do the last question here. Actually, it is the Roback question. I'm gonna give you the Roback question, Steven Che.

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we'd like to gift you a Roback Performance Q-Zip on us. I have that at my desk next time you're in the office. Last question for you. Who has the most beautiful body in this year's draft? I'm gonna give two answers here. So on offense, we're gonna look at Trey Lance. He's just kind of prototypical body you want for a quarterback, a modern-day quarterback he's got.

He's muscled up, he's about six-four. He can take hits, Trey Lance on offense, on defense. We're gonna look at an edge rusher out of Washington. Kind of a surprising opt-out this year, Joe Tryon. I mean, he's just six-five, two-sixty, muscled up. He's exactly what you'd wanna look for as far as body beautiful. Okay, I love it, Steven.

Steven, thank you so much. I'm looking at Joe Tryon right now, and boy, is his body beautiful. That dude's rad. Yeah, what's that shirt? Yeah, oh, Dev's on it. Dude, it's beautiful. All right, Steven, thank you.

Everyone tune in, NFL, NFL show, live show on Thursday night. Steven Chay will be giving you a breakdown of every pick with Ronan Brandon Walker, and then we'll be hopping in eventually at some point as well. Also, tune in to his podcast. What is it again? Surf and turf. Surf and turf.

Eat and run. Yep, you're surfing, and you're turfing. And I will say to the promoter of our show is that ESPN and NFL Network have agreed to not tip picks. We have not agreed to that. Oh, hell yes. We will be tipping picks. One or two might be wrong.

Yeah, I was gonna say, let's hope we don't have a repeat of last year. Steven, I do not wanna demote you again. Still one of the funniest things ever is when I demoted you, and then you sent me a text message. You're like, I understand what you had to do here in demoting me. This is all made up, but not in your eyes.

It's all real. Well, we can take away your certification from the draft program that you completed. Oh no, I have emails proving that that happened. Now we'll come to your house and rip it up. All right, Steven, thank you so much. Thanks, Steven. Steven Che was brought to you by our friends

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Show me. Randy Moss, the football player. Yeah. No, not, maybe. I can't, he might have played football like rec football. We don't know if any of us are gonna be alive by then. So, two and touch. All right, so this was kind of what we were talking about

earlier, mascots, problematic names, et cetera. What would you name the Cleveland Indians when their team name is disbanded? The PFT probably wants them to be called the Cleveland baseball team. I was gonna say the football team. I do love the spiders. Cleveland spiders is good.

Like I think that's way back they were the spiders. Cleveland midges. Cleveland midges, I like that one. Billy's looking at me like that's a slur. A midge is a bug that lands on your face if you're job at Chamberlain. What about the Cleveland Lake? Also, why not just the Cleveland Browns?

Baseball edition. They're probably gonna do like the Cleveland Rocks. The Cleveland Lake is pretty good. Yeah, Cleveland Lake. It's just a fuckin' lake right there. It's Cleveland Lake. What about Cleveland Rocks? Cleveland Rocks.

They would tie in the Hall of Fame, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but their mascot can just straight up be crack. Yeah. Subboys, especially our darling Jake, are we ever going to get a throw off between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes? Bill's mafia would be happy to host.

So, yes, we want to, it's just really hard to get them together. And also, COVID happened. Yeah, so we were gonna do it last year, but then COVID. COVID, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we've had some hair-brained ideas, but. I think that's not so much hair-brained. No, no, no, that, the execution of it.

I think there was a discussion, I can't remember who was like, we should just go to the game and before the game, if we get on the field, maybe they'll do it. And I was like, I don't think they'll do it before the game, like try to throw their arms out. But yes, we want to.

I think we went to interview Mahomes. It was like close-ish. We were talking to Josh, yeah. I think maybe we should, maybe Grit Week. Maybe we'll ride a tandem bike to them. But they have to be together. Well, one, the other way we could do it is if we went to both places, measured it off.

No, you can't do that, because of wind, because of everything. Altitude. Yeah. The lines in the practice facility not being exact. Yeah, good point, good point. All right, so what we should do is just, Patrick, hit us up and let us know when you're free. Josh is always free.

Hello, Mr. Cat, PFT, Hank, Billy, and of course, Jake, parentheses, I feel like he gets left out a lot of these. Hello's. I was wondering when they're, not to Liam, Bubba. I was wondering when there might be another combine with all the PMT guys minus Billy, since we know he'd probably finished last

in all the events. Oh! If this were to happen again, who do you think would put up the scariest combine numbers out of all of you? I think Jake might be sneaky athletic just because of his youth. However, PFT has shown that it's his competition to lose in any jumping event.

Thanks, y'all, for always making the mornings better. All right, so at this point in our athletic careers, I'm retired. I'm pretty sure that if we did a combine, there would be at least over under two and a half Achilles torn. Last time we did a combine for Barstool was like three years ago, and I hurt my hamstring pretty bad, so I'm retired.

Do you guys remember the first assignment you sent me on outside of the office? Yes, it's not your content. The XFL Combine. It's not your content. I do a few of the drills in a full suit. And it was not your content. Nope.

You know what we should do. It's such an outrageous thing to say. It's just not your content. Just do a blogging combine. Yeah. Just words per minute amount of three cone drills, just eating ice cream. Gifts.

I would absolutely murk you guys. Mmm. I don't know about that. You'd actually have to write. I mean, you've lost your... No, no, I'm talking about the other combine. Not the blogging combine. Or you're talking about the football combine.

Yeah. Bill, you're in college and you lost a cornhole game today. How's that, you know? It's true. Okay. You got to play. Listen, when he graduates, he will win all of the awards.

You got to put some friction on the board because it just slides off. The other player didn't have a problem. If you look, yeah, if you, eh, whatever. We should do a... Stools, streams, play bar stool. We should do a combine of future plans. Billy would crush us in that.

I think you. I don't know. Actually, I think we're pretty good. No, yeah. We have good ones. I actually don't know about that. We have good ones. But he's got a lot of good ones.

It actually would be our strongest across the board future plans. Before Billy looks up the fan in your avatar. That's true. Oh, jeez. That one's a dagger. I love it. FAQ, what's the deal with you guys

getting guests from ESPN? The guys you have had a relationship pre-Van talk like SVP and McShay come on, but would ESPN ever let PFT's goat, Greeny, come on? Greeny's like Greeny. Seems like it's touching go with ESPN people. Greeny seems like he's best appreciated from a distance. I don't think I want Greeny on anymore.

Yes, I do. Never meet your heroes. Yeah, there are certain people that like, we were having the conversation about Dude Perfect going on tour. And we're like, oh, what if we went to it? It's like, you know what? It's better.

There's definitely a few people that we should just stay away from. Just so that we can keep doing what we're doing. Greeny might be in that category. Well, I disagree. I don't think that Greeny would be in the category if he'd show up and then we'd love Greeny so much. No, but we would feel worse.

We would feel bad about making fun of him. What about Cowturd? No, I'm done with it. I don't like Cowturd. We actually, we asked him to come on and, or yeah, I think. No, he invited, I think he invited himself. Yeah, when he had his podcast network.

He just wanted to use us to promote his podcast network. And I do have like almost a Rico Bosco, never forgive, never forget with Colin Coward and what he did with Sean Taylor. Never forgive, never forget. Fuck you, Coward, you're off. Skipping to Steve and I? Yes, yes.

Immediately. Because Skip wouldn't get it. We would just make fun of him to his face and leave best of friends, but not lose what we would lose with like a Greeny or a Dude Perfect. I would just be afraid that Skip and Steve and I would get, they would just get on the show.

Greeny would be amazing. If we had them on at the same time, they would just fall in love. I think it'd be tough to get them on at the same time. No, I just meant, I meant individually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My girlfriend is addicted to Disney and is almost 23 and has been begging me to go on a trip with her there.

Is that still weird for that age? What's the age cut-off for Disney? Is Big Cat Disney-phobic? I might be. I'll hand up. Didn't go as a kid, so I didn't go as a kid. It might be like one of those like, you were like maybe like, is there like a jealousy?

Like maybe like you saw all the kids going to Disney and you were like a little bit upset. I do think it's jokes. So you held it in deep down. I think adult Disney goers without children. That's a little weird. I think that you get- So what's the age cut-off?

I think that the age cut-off is probably 25, 26. Because you can go somewhere as a, you can do anything that you did as a child. Again, after you turn 21, where you can legally drink there and get to experience it again, but drunk. And then after that, then it becomes weird. Yeah, the round the world with the women's soccer team.

Yeah, like- They all got kicked out. That was kind of cool. That's why I love US women's soccer. When Alice Morgan got kicked out of Disney World for getting hammered. Yeah. If you could go back and relive any bet you made,

what would it be? Relive. Like relive in good, or get to re-bet it? If you could go back and relive any bet you made, what would it be? I don't know. You don't remember the winners. Yeah.

I would definitely go back and not take the fucking Broncos against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Yeah, that was awful. That sucked. Sucked real bad. What? Billy? There was a can't win parlay that hit early in the season.

That was pretty sick, then I got a hedgehog. Nice. All right, there you go. Dear PFC, what are your top three Blank 182 songs? Oh, that's a good question. All right, I'm gonna go with Dammit, number one. Adam's song, better be on there. No, no.

What? It's a good song, but it's not my top three. Dammit, number one. Get you in the feels, dude. I like Dysentery Gary, and then, wait, no, not Dysentery Gary. A Dump Weed, Dump Weed is my number two. The number three is Apple Shampoo, four carousel, fifth Travis Barker drum solo, life.

I never thought I'd die alone, come on. Also Anthem, part two, and Anthem part one. Dude, died alone. You know what? Anthem part two is second, get out of here, Dump Weed. All right, last one. All right, last one, those, yeah, we'll do last one. Well, you got another good one.

There's a few good ones. This one's a serious one, one with a funny one. Any tension, big argument slash fight you guys have ever been in, I can't imagine traveling for Grit Week was always happy, go lucky, or maybe someone's cleanliness or lack thereof annoyed someone to a certain point to say something. Being the bigger man and not using PFT's Mountain Dew

Spitter as an example. There's never been like a significant thing. It's just at the end of like Grit Week, we all, remember that one Grit Week we did in the south, and then we all got in the middle of it. And then we all got in that Uber after we returned to RV and we just no one said a word for like 45 minutes. And then we all went to our hotel rooms and it was like,

it was it, it was done. We were all like super pumped to not be talking. Right, it was just like, you know, there's just a point where it's like you spend every second, it's like, all right, but there's never been like a huge, huge fight. I got really mad at Jake when he mispronounced, what did he mispronounce the other day? Mortgitch.

I got really mad at Jake when he said Mortgitch. Mortgitch. All right, last one. The biggest fights happen when Hank strolls in on Sunday and has the opposite of all verbose. That's probably true. Well, yeah, like there's a lot of that. There's a lot of like.

Those aren't like big fights. Cause those are like yelling in the moment and then like, all right, we're good. Like I feel like a fight would be something that happens like off air, like isn't spoken about, but like there's a lot of like catty arguments. But those are like, those are fine. There's been some things off the air that have

that have come forward. PFT tried to fight me when we had made that photoshop that time, like I walked in the office. But that wasn't even square up. I wouldn't even say that was a fight. I didn't try to fight you. I just thought it was a dirty move. You walked in and you like cut me off

with your chest out where like square up. Sorry, I was being assertive. No, there was a thing that's happened off the air that we've brought onto the air a little bit is Hank's yawns. Because those would actually. He brought it on the air. Well, then you guys asked me, then you guys asked me to do it on the show

and people have never been, and people have never been madder at me than when you asked me to be on the show. All right, last one. By the way, Hank, I think I'm the only one here that's thanked you for putting the show up early. Yeah, that's true. We've made amends.

I might have to stop doing that though. People, it's gotten too far. Yeah, people started asking me like now. Yeah, it was like a joke, but now people I think are serious. I can't tell. But yeah, jokes can last forever. This weekend, my friend's wife said men snore

because our ball sacks cover our buttholes when we sleep. Is this true? That actually makes perfect sense. Your airtight? Yeah. It seals you up. Yeah, all right. Yeah, that's a great ending, and I agree with it.

All right, numbers? 38. Give me eight. 99. 18. 18. 18 has 22. The whales and the Caribbean have a different accent

than whales outside of the Caribbean. That's like an actual fact. That's actually cool. They're echoed at the same time. 89. Steve Smith. Have you ever had it? October 8th.

October 8th. Love you guys. Love you guys. I'm talking away. I don't know what I'm to say, I'm saying it anyway. Today's another day to find. Shine it away. I'll be coming for your love of king.

Shine it away. I'll be coming for your love of king. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be coming for your love of king.