Pardon My Take - Jeff Fisher, Drew Brees Breaks Another Record + Guys on Chicks

Episode Date: December 18, 2019

Drew Brees record breaking season is back. MNF is all about Drew Brees and we talk about his career being exceptional while also weird. Booger gave us that MNF telestrator Dong and the Lions are going... status quo. (2:35-18:37) Hot Seat/Cool Throne. (18:38-30:08) Coach Jeff Fisher joins us in studio to talk about his life without football, fishing in Montana and chasing Bears, thoughts on social media and why he would love to get back in the game. (32:06-1:18:56) Segments include this league, (1:22:32-1:25:40) PR 101 for our guy Jon Rothstein, (1:25:41-1:30:08) way to stay relevant baseball, (1:30:09-1:31:52) and guys on chicks (1:32:53-1:40:32)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, we have a good friend, recurring guest, Coach Jeff Fisher in studio. Some story time with Coach Fish talking about the game, talking about whether he might get back in the game, talking about fishing, bears, everything. We also have Drew Brees record night. Oh yeah, that happens like every other day. It feels like hot seat, cool throne, guys on chicks and a little PR 101 for our friend John Rostine who's gotten himself into a little bit of a pickle. We're brought to you by Cash App. Pardon my take is always brought to you by Cash App. We're in the Cash App studios and
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Starting point is 00:02:59 found. No, his 45 year old adult daughter still has the giant earphones on that you wear when you're using a chainsaw. He's broken Tom Brady's record for 167th time in a row because they keep going back and forth and both of them are going to play forever and oh yeah, Drew Brees, another Monday night, another record. I feel like we've seen this before and we're going to see it again because he's just going to keep playing and he and Tom Brady are just going to go back and forth breaking each other's record. Well, if I may step in and do your pod form and say that Tom Brady actually has all the meaningful records when you take into account the post season. True, true. So really, this is just on paper. In fact, I was upset at the NFL.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I want to put one in Roger Goodell's earhole. For an occasion like this, you need to at least break out an eight by 11 piece of paper in Comic Sans and congrats on big record, Mr. Brees. Okay, so I have a couple of questions for you, PFT, to start this show off. The first is, is passer rating the dumbest statistic of all time? Because Drew Brees on Monday night, Drew Brees loves the dome Monday night, a record on the brink. It's his ninth record that he said on Monday. He loves it. It is, I think Sean, Sean Payton purposely calls plays and games leading up to potential record breaking scenarios. If he knows that he has a Monday night coming up next week, he'll take the ball out of Drew Brees's hands that he can do it in national, on national
Starting point is 00:04:18 television in prime time. And we also had the two time celebration of it because there was a penalty on the first time he broke it. But Drew Brees was 29 for 30, 307 yards, four touchdowns, zero interceptions, and he was still 10 points shy of a perfect passer rating. Not good enough for me. He almost said the dumbest statistic of all time. Not only that, because it's dumb, but it's also someone can explain to me why it's still graded out of 158.3. Somebody figured out it was probably Archie Manning that put it together because so many would based on Peyton's exact stats being like my boy has the record for most perfect passer ratings. If you can't imagine he's involved in that. And it was the most, it was like the highest completion percentage record.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah, he broke that record as well. He broke that record. The Rivers had it. Three touchdowns, three, four touchdowns, zero interceptions, and he didn't win us our fantasy team. That's why it wasn't a perfect game. If he had won us our fantasy league, which we needed 60 points out of him, that son of a bitch came up about 25 short. Okay, so second question. Do we under appreciate Drew Brees? Oh, yeah. So it's legacy talk time now. I think that Drew Brees is perfectly appreciated legacy wise. No matter if you think he's overrated or underrated, I think that everyone is correct in their opinion of Drew Brees because you can look at his career through several different prisms, say like, yeah, okay, he only won one Super Bowl in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:05:37 But if you know anything about the Saints organization true before he got there, the ad is an incredible thing that he did. Or you can be like Drew Brees is the best quarterback because you can find some stats completion percentage and all this other stuff and how many winning seasons in a row they've had out of, you know, the 11 or 12 years that he's been there was it like 13 years now? He has been in New Orleans and there since 2006. Yeah. So 13 years and you can cherry pick all sorts of stats and be like he is the best player that's ever played the position. Drew Brees, though, is a classic case of a guy who just played in an era where there were one or two guys that were always just a little bit better than him. He's never won an MVP.
Starting point is 00:06:16 You could make the argument that he's been deserving of an MVP, but his best years, 2011, his best kind of stretch was like that. 2011, 2012, they weren't as good as a team in 2013. Aaron Rogers threw 45 touchdowns and six interceptions in 2011 when the package were 15 and one 2012 AP rushed for over 2000 yards, which is still kind of a hallowed thing. And then 2013 paid Manning through 55 touchdowns for that Broncos team. And so he, Drew Brees gets lost in that like he's been incredible for his entire career. He's probably, he's definitely a top 10 quarterback all time, but there was never a specific moment in time where you were like, this guy was the best quarterback in the NFL because he also played against Tom Brady to who has won MVPs and Super Bowls
Starting point is 00:07:09 and everything like that. So it's, it's so funny to watch him and realize that he's breaking all these records and think like what year was his year, probably the Super Bowl year, but what year was specifically his year? And it was just taken by someone else who happens to be an all-time great and Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers or Adrian Peterson. I would say it's like, it's like Riley Reed coming up in the era of Tiana Trump and she has to go up against. That's the second Tiana Trump mention in the last two weeks. Yeah, Alexis Texas. Well, so you know what I'm saying, like Alexis Texas is the goat and unfortunately it just so happened that that two other would-be goats had to compete in the same, in the live ball era of porn, if you will. It's one of those cool
Starting point is 00:07:52 sports debates though where you're like, Drew Brees is unbelievable, but he never was. You can make the argument though. You can make the argument that Drew Brees was the guy though for a couple of those years, but he was good, but I, but he wasn't though. The problem with him with Drew Brees. Yeah, he was Peyton Manning through 55 touchdown passes in like one of his best years, right? But he was the guy for a couple of those years. You could, there were definitely a couple years where you're like, Drew Brees is the best quarterback in the NFL. I don't know if I agree with that. The problem with Drew Brees, I don't agree with that. The problem with Drew Brees at all. Nope. I know, I know why Hank's saying no, but the problem is there's three reasons because you had
Starting point is 00:08:25 Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. No, no, no, wait, but it was always Brady versus Manning. That's, that's always been the debate. Brady versus Manning. They were in the same conference. Then it was Rodgers. Well, now Rodgers is the boat. I made that up right now as the best quarterback of all time. As opposed to Tom Brady, that's the goat. Wait, there's a boat already. Yeah. Oh, you're right. Max Kellerman said that about Aaron Rodgers. So no, but Aaron Rodgers was very good, but I definitely think that there were at least a couple of years where Drew Brees was that guy. And it's a, it's a debate that people are going to have. And legacy wise, I think we can all just agree that Drew Brees was an excellent quarterback for a long time and he made a lot of
Starting point is 00:09:04 people happy. His best statistical year was that 2011 year where he threw 46 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. It just so happened that that was the year that Aaron Rodgers threw 46, 45 touchdowns and six interceptions. You know what the problem, and they went 15 and one, you know what the problem with Drew Brees was? They, their defense has never been excellent. So like, I don't know the exact stat off hand, but I'm pretty sure that the saints have won. I'm pretty sure that the saints have lost more games where they've scored 35 points than any other franchise in NFL history, like in this, in the 16 year span that he's been there. Okay. I mean, maybe a span or whatever, because their defense has been atrocious. Yeah. They've had times. Yeah. I mean, you could say the same
Starting point is 00:09:43 Peyton had some bad defenses in Indianapolis as well. He had that kind of curse with him. But it's, it's just, he's a fascinating guy to me because he is truly one of the best of all time. And I'm not taking that away from him. It's just, when you think of the greatest of all times, like the top 10 quarterbacks, you can think of one year where you're like, Oh, that was his year. And of course the Super Bowl year where the saints were the best story in sports. That was probably the year, but in terms of like individual accomplishments, not having that MVP, it feels like maybe we're not appreciating enough. And that year's a hindsight year because going into the Super Bowl, no one thought they were going to win. It was all Peyton. True. And the onside kick,
Starting point is 00:10:19 the famous onside kick. That was a great onside kick. Also, I want to ask the NFL, we, we acknowledge all these individual records by team, by players, by teams, even we don't ever get to stop the game and award something to a referee for being like, you just broke the all time record for holding calls. And who, who would get that? Probably Clee Plakeman. Yeah. Probably. Triple it would probably be the all time lead leaguer and like in consecutive pass interference calls that were overturned on replay. By the way, we didn't even mention the fact that Drew Brees, actually, if you look at it last year, might be his statistically best year when he had, he had an incredible year last year, 32 touchdowns and five interceptions. Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:00 it went up against Patrick Mahomes. So he basically just every year that he has a great year, it's like, Oh, and here's another guy. And here's another has he had the down year though? He's had it. He's had a couple of years where he's had more interception like 2014. I'm looking at it right now. He had 33 touchdown 17 interceptions. The Saints went seven and nine. I don't remember. That's still pretty good. Oh, no, he's been phenomenal. I mean, you don't get to 540 touchdown passes and have a really, really bad year. He has been the model of like consistency and great. I'm just saying it's weird to look at a guy like that who's breaking all these records now and not have one specific year where it's like head and shoulders. He was the best in the leak.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I think he's just always been in that discussion for so long that like the longevity of it, he should get like a second place forever trophy. I never felt like Drew Brees was was undervalued by anybody because everyone likes him. No, you're not going to find anybody out there that's like, Drew Brees sucks. Fuck him. I hate him. He's awful. You can find somebody out there that'll say that about the best quarterbacks of all time, but I've never heard somebody take like an anti Drew Brees that so I always been in the conversation of best passers during the time in football where we've had the best quarter. Yeah, no, I'm not. This is an anti Drew Brees. Interesting to look at a guy like that who has been so accomplished and is one of the best of
Starting point is 00:12:16 all time, but not have that one year where it's like, Oh, he was so much better than everyone else. He got a shout out from Tom Brady who congratulated Drew. He says passing Peyton Manning on any list is impressive. So that was that was Tom Brady giving himself a little pat on the back and James Winston a pat on the back for passing Peyton Manning in all sorts of statistical categories this season in those graphics that we've seen. It's going to be interesting because I actually think besides Patrick Mahomes, if he plays for like 15 years, there's actually not a ton of guys who are like, it's not one of those 540 is not one of those numbers, especially Drew Brees and Tom Brady still playing that you can look and say, well, that's going to be passed in like,
Starting point is 00:12:54 because remember when, when Brett Favre had it, it was like, well, Peyton's going to pass it. And when Peyton had it, it was like, well, Drew Brees or Tom Brady are going to pass it. And now it's, it's essentially, let's not count out Ryan Fitzpatrick on any of these Aaron Rodgers is almost 200 behind. So yeah, I think it's going to probably be James's award eventually, right? He's just name it after James already. James being the all time touchdown passing leader is going to be the greatest. That will be the greatest Thursday night football game against I don't know who they're going to play the Panthers. Yeah, they're going to play the Panthers and they're going to lose by 20, but he's going to throw four touchdowns and six interceptions.
Starting point is 00:13:29 All right. The other part of the game, booger, shout out booger for finally doing a Telstraiter penis that we hadn't had in a long time. We called it, right? We said that we were overdue for Telstraiter penises and he delivered, he gave us a chode. He gave us a real fat one, a real fact, like a real, a real choker of a, of a dick that he drew. And he put the balls on there too, which is nice. He did and booger. And yeah, I mean, I feel like that was a good way of just keeping the conversation off of any mistakes he might have made last night. It's like, Hey, here's, here's the Telstraiter dong that buys me at least a few more months here. Yep. Anything else from, I mean, the Colts, we're not, I don't think we're going to talk about
Starting point is 00:14:06 the season that Andrew Luck retired. Yeah. That's where we said that's the best, the best thing you can say about the Colts is they still played a season after Andrew Luck retired, which feels like they were, they were in the hunt for a little bit. Yeah. For, for a hot minute, they were. What were you going to say? I'm surprised you didn't start the show with this, but you guys lost your fantasy matchup. It was funny when PFT was like, Hey, what's, I, to show how great we are at fantasy. I didn't even have the login on anything, but my computer and my computer is at work. And I was like, well, we must be close. I think it was like, well, you're 30 points behind at like the end of the game. So whatever it was seasons over. Who cares? Here's, you guys owe me
Starting point is 00:14:44 250 bucks. We already paid. No, thank you. We already paid you. No, thank you. Here's a fun little stat. This was sent to me from Xi Jin Pimp. So it's a good stat. Actually, I double checked it on the ESPN playoff simulator. So this is legit Xi Jin Pimp. It's yet Chi like, like the president of China. Yes. Okay. It is a playoff scenario that is not unlikely. We could get into a situation where week 17, the Texans and the Titans could mutually agree to tie each other. And both teams would make the playoffs. So who would get the, what? Who would get the, the, when the AFC South. So it, it, why wouldn't you do that? So it all because that, because well, what I just asked, one of them has to win the AFC South and get a home playoff game. So
Starting point is 00:15:29 one of the teams wouldn't do it. So it would be if Tennessee beats New Orleans, Tampa Bay beats Houston and Pittsburgh loses to either Baltimore or the Jets, it would set up a week 17 playoff scenario where whoever won would eliminate the other team. But who would get AFC South champion if they tie? I don't have it pulled up right now. So I can pull it up and let you know exactly what that would look like. But could you, first of all, it's not going to happen because if you think Mike Vrable is going to go into a game and like shake somebody's hand and say, Hey, let's just tie. Right. And also the playoff game. Yeah. Mike Vrable would probably say that he would tie you and then just run the ball down your throat. Derek Henry just a hundred times in the
Starting point is 00:16:08 game. Yeah. So we also have, by the way, if you want to watch our interview coming up with Coach Fisher, uh, barcelgold.com slash PMT, we have news out of Detroit. The Matt Patricia, Bob Quinn marriage is going on for another year. So congratulations to the Lions after everything we said last week or on Sunday. Um, and how that franchise is just the saddest franchise in the world. Well, you get to keep being sad. Yeah. They're calling her Martha Vader for Martha Ford. I liked that nickname a lot. I saw a rumor that Jeff Bezos might have been kicking the tires around about Alliance. About the Lions, but buying the Lions. He's the guy now where like he's mystery team where he has so much money that he can just every team, every fan base can just hope
Starting point is 00:16:58 that Jeff Bezos will come in and buy their team with their values going up because there's such a rich guy out there that might be interested. He's Jeff Bezos is the new Las Vegas or the new Los Angeles for NFL teams. As long as you have that open space out there, you can dangle it. I think Eminem should buy the Lions. All of D12 should team up. I don't know if he has enough, I don't know if he has enough money to do it, but that would be, that would be a great one. Kid Rock and Eminem together. What about the other D11? You don't think that they can put together a, those chicks don't even know the name of that band. That's a deep cut right there. That was a deep cut. Kid Rock and Eminem together. People forget too by the way that Belecek was
Starting point is 00:17:36 three first seasons were losing seasons. So Matt Patricia is the next Belecek. Got it. Then Marth Vader also said that I think, I think the line coming from the ownership is they liked the progress before the injuries happened. So that's a classic one where it's like, hey, we would have been good. So, and they got fucked by the refs. And they got fucked by the refs. Yeah. So they should have another win. But you have to pencil. And they've got the quarterback of the future with, with Slaughter on the team being, being fucked by the refs as the Lions, you have to like write that in as you're like in your statistical analysis of how the Lions are going to go, their season is going to go. You have to put at least one loss of we're going to get
Starting point is 00:18:15 fucked by the refs. Is Bob Seager still alive? Yes. He should, it should just be all of get Ted Nugent involved to purchase the team. Maybe Jalen Rose. Yeah. Yeah. That would be good. We get the whole, the whole, the whole gang together. All these guys never met. They don't know each other. Yeah. But Gilbert, you can get in there. The guy that owns Little Caesars. Yep. Son of a bitch. Whoever owns Fort, wait, no. No, they, okay, it's already there. Marth Vader. I like that. Marth Vader is good. We should sell Marth Vader t-shirts. Yeah, we should. Um, all right, let's do some hot seat cool throne and we'll get to Jeff Fisher. Hank, why don't you start? My hot seat is anyone that doesn't like their job and uses taking a shit
Starting point is 00:18:54 to get out of it. So I don't know who this guy is. Dave Sessio, but it was a tweet. So I'm going to take it as true word fact new downward tilting toilets are designed to become unbearable to sit on after five minutes. And the main benefit of them is to improve employee productivity. So they're building toilets that if you sit on them and you're sitting on there, you know, 10, 15 minutes, you're like, your legs don't fall asleep. It just is a striking pain and you have to get up. It's right. So illegal. Well, if unless it's an NFL franchise, because then you're doing wall sits while you take a shit. So it builds up your quad strength, which I like. They should just, if you really want your employees to not spend a long time shitting,
Starting point is 00:19:37 you should just install cell phone jamming services into your stalls. And that way you can't sit on there. Why am I saying this out loud? Yeah, I don't want to speak this into existence. I feel like the art of going to the back, even in high school, even in high school before I had a cell phone, like I was still just like, let me get in the class and like go take a shit for 30 minutes. Yeah. So I don't even know that the cell phone thing would work as much like people back in the day before someone's existed were still taking long shipwreaks. Am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. It's where like, I mean, just think about anyone, your father growing up. That was that was like, Hey, dad's in there. Right. Let them be.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Read the newspaper. Yeah. I would play in there for an hour. Yeah. Yeah. Taking a nice long bathroom break. It's one of the small things in life that everybody looks forward to over the course of the day. Some people right now are listening to us as they're shitting right now. Absolutely. And you've probably been listening so long that if you were on one of these advanced downward facing toilets, which sounds like a yoga move, you would have cracked your face. Yeah. In the stall. Also, this seems like it's it opens up lawsuit city for more toilet accidents. Yes. It's like more people will fall off the toilet. Don't fuck with our toilets. It's like all we got. It's all we got is the workers of America unite. We can't have this happen.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It might actually make me join a union solidarity. If this is if this is how it's going to go. There is a lot better feelings, but there's no better feeling than just standing up and like falling over because you've been sitting in the toilet for like, yeah, you get the creases in your legs. Yeah. That's as close as I'll ever get to like serving in the military is just the feeling that I get after taking a really long shit and and feeling too tired to walk. I'll get the mark on my face because I'm just like this the whole time. Oh yeah, you walk you walk out of the toilet and you've got a red mark. It looks like your forehead's like Peyton Manning after he's been wearing his helmet all day because your head's just been resting in your hand. I've
Starting point is 00:21:26 seen that a few times. Yeah, so let us shit. Yeah, just let me shit. My cool throne is boner dogs. Oh, we didn't talk about this on the show on Monday, but we actually Triggs made a movie poster for boner dogs, which you can buy, get it framed. I feel like it's a must that we're going to go in the studio. It's just a must have for the Christmas season. If you're in college, like, you know, no more Ninja Turtles, no more pizza, pizza poster, no more Bob Marley boner dog, no more teachers, dirty looks, no more, no more Belushi boner. No more the kiss. Actually, the kisses must have because if you bring two chicks back to your dorm room, you know they're going to make out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They're like, oh, we can do that. That's a legal. That's legal. Get one of those pink
Starting point is 00:22:05 Floyd posters where it's all the naked chicks from behind with the albums on it. You've never asked the Pink Floyd. How many of those people do you think are dead now? The Pink Floyd ass? Yeah, there's at least three Pink Floyd asses that are dead. Think about that. Next time you put that poster. I think that fucked up. If you're on a poster like that, the transcends generations, you never really die. Pink Floyd poster. That's for sure. You're looking at a dead person's ass. Use like an oral history of the Pink Floyd assing. There's no saying that you really die the last time somebody looks at your ass. That's when you're really done. Yeah, never had an ass your entire life. Same. If I've never had it, if you don't have an ass, you should get ass implants.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Hank, it's well, we have the squat rack now. By the way, this is all natural. Yeah, unassembled. But yeah, this is from 1996. It's two dimensional assembled. 1996 is when this poster came out. So what do we got? 23 years? 20? Am I doing my math right? And they're probably in there, what, mid 20s, late 20s? There's six women there. I'm saying two Pink Floyd asses are dead. Think about that. I don't want to think about that. Yep. Think about it. Okay, PFT, what do you got? Also short sleeve. Our part of my take, short sleeve sweatshirts. Okay. Nice. Those are on the cool throne. Nice. All right. My hot seat. Well, Hank had one of them already with the with a shitting thing. I was all fired up about that. Hot seat is going to be former Denver Bronco,
Starting point is 00:23:30 Clinton Portis, and former San Francisco 49er Carlos Rogers, who got busted for taking part in medical fraud situation going on. I think they were like in the DC area when it was happening, whatever. It's not important what team they were around at the time. But I guess that they were submitting claims on behalf of old NFL players to get medical devices that didn't actually exist. And they're getting kickbacks for them. Yeah, they actually got like a horse x-ray. I was reading it and they got a horse x-ray. They got one of those. Is it sonar? It was like an electric stimulation thing. The pregnant sonar thing? They essentially got, I should know this. They got an athlete's version of a Sibian. Basically, they just ordered a shitload of
Starting point is 00:24:13 Sibians that don't exist. And they're getting taken. I think they got arrested for it. They're in a lot of hot water. So I hope that's not true because a former Denver Bronco, Clinton Portis was one of my favorite players going up and former San Francisco 49er Carlos Rogers was also very good too. Also hot seat Jacksonville Jaguars. 25% of NFL PA grievances over the last couple years have been against the Jaguars out of 32 teams. So that's pretty high rate. It's Tom Coughlin. I guess showing up 15 minutes early to everything isn't mandated by the current collective bargaining agreement. Turns out Tom Coughlin's a real dick. Never really saw that one coming. I'll say this. Trying to get Tom Coughlin to abide by a legal piece of paper is like trying to teach a horse
Starting point is 00:25:00 algebra. He's just never going to do it. He's just going to be like, no, this collective bargaining agreement makes my team weak, so I'm not going to do it. Right. Where's the toughness clause? He's never going to change. 15 minutes early to all the illegal things that we're not supposed to be doing. Yes. My cool throne is January Jenkins because he got cut by the Giants for calling a fan the R word, not the red skin word, but the other the real R word during practice. So he tweeted the R word at a fan during practice. He got cut and then he got signed by the Saints after explaining that calling somebody the R word is a hood thing. So cultural. So it's culture. It's like when Derek Rose said, like, kill yourself, kill yourself. That's what we it's slang from Chicago. Everyone
Starting point is 00:25:45 says that. Actually, no, everyone actually does say kill yourself. You say it all the time around the office. Yeah, people say it all the time. So January Jenkins, the Jackrab, which is one of the best nicknames in sports, I think. Yes. Jackrab at Jenkins is on the Saints. Okay. So the Saints are ready to go and maybe need some like, you know, maybe a couple classes to teach people how to not say these things. I'm sure the Saints will react rationally when Roger Goddell suspended their games. Yes. Yeah. The whole Saints, Sean Payton, you just got suspended. Actually, what Sean Payton should do is he should just get a bunch of players that he thinks might be suspended soon. And that way they have more causes to rally. Yes. Yes. All right. My hot seat is
Starting point is 00:26:23 guys with big dicks. Oh, fuck. I have this. There you go, guys. Wait as a setup. No, but Jason Derulo. Yes. He they CGI'd his large penis out of cats. The new movie. So I'm a Jason Derulo. This sucks, man. Yeah. But as as guys who like, you know, you can't have that happen to you. People need to know. Yeah. I'm a big truth around this because in that Instagram picture he put up, he definitely chubbed up. Oh yeah. He did some prep work. Yeah. There's porn playing behind the camera. I just know that this probably explains why you can never see my penis in any pictures because it's been CGI'd out. The internet CGI's it all out. It sucks. They're trying to take this out of it. So that's totally why my small penis never shows up. There's no bigger thrill in
Starting point is 00:27:12 my life than going through airport security while I'm wearing me undies and the little the alarm goes off on the other side and the stick figure has a box around the crotch. Yeah. That's right. I got a dick. We take pictures. Yes. And like our phones in our pocket, but it looks just far enough to like it like it looks like you have a hog. Oh, yeah. I have it with the phones. Yeah. Yeah. No. And yeah, where the phone or I have a tin in and everyone's like, oh my God, it's like, yeah, dude, you didn't think I was packing. And like, actually, that's my fucking huge castanza wallet because I'd never throw anything out. Or when Greeny gets a picture when he's got the Johnsonville Brots just in his pocket ready to read and add at any given time. Yeah. And a condom on him.
Starting point is 00:27:51 But he also has a big penis. He probably puts a condom on the Johnsonville Brot before he puts it on the grill. And then he puts the tin foil down on the grill before he puts the condom to make sure it's all clean. No germs anyway. My cool throne is Jim Boylan because he's never going to be fired. And he coaches with faith. He coaches by faith. That's what he keeps saying. The Bulls lost. They had a 26 point lead last night. They lost. And yeah, he's he is the worst coach in the NBA. He might be the worst coach in the history of basketball. What is coaching by faith mean? It means that he's really stupid. But if you say I coach by faith, you can throw out all the numbers, all logic. Means the players get crossed up. Yeah. Anything that makes perfect
Starting point is 00:28:28 sense. He can just be like, no, I don't do that. I coach by faith. Last night, he called the time out PFT with they were up 26. The Thunder made a 10 10 point run. He called the time out with 33 seconds left in the third quarter to stop the run. Okay. And then he had no time out. So yeah, that's not that's not ideal. They stopped. That's what faith does for people who don't understand who don't watch basketball, because I know the NBA ratings are down. They stopped the game in between quarters. So there is a time out that's not a big one and how much and how much time was left 33 seconds 33 seconds to stop the run. Um, you know what? I'm such a fucking idiot. I'm really good at knowing. So fleet flickers. I can tell you when a fleet flicker is coming. I can also tell
Starting point is 00:29:10 when a coach is about to call a time out to make the crowd to take the crowd out of it. Yeah, basketball. I've got like my finger on the pulse of those guys. Yeah. So John Paxson. Good job. He's actually a genius because he hired just a walking talking moron that we could all be mad on at so that we're not mad at him. Yeah. That's I mean, coaching with your gut is good. Coaching with faith is like coaching with somebody else's gut. Like with God's gut. I actually, listen, as someone who does a lot of things with, you know, makes a lot of bets with faith, there is an element of like, Hey, if I just maybe it will be different this time, but it's never different. You always just lose. He just, but it may be different. Coaches with delusion. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:49 it's going to be, it's going to work out this time. Um, all right, let's get to our interview with coach Jeff Fisher. He came into the studio. I love him. Visited us. Looks great. He does. He looks nice and relaxed. It looks like a play. Uh, and we talk everything with him coaching, fishing, bears, awesome stuff. Uh, before we do that, a quick word from our friends at Velvita PFT. Nothing melts like Velveeta. Only Velveeta delivers extra creamy cheesiness. A couple things not like Velveeta, but we can't talk. Especially perfect for your tailgate or game day party, making those dishes. You are already making even better by using that delicious creaminess. Velveeta. We love Velveeta. We've been eating Velveeta. You can make the queso dip with Velveeta.
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Starting point is 00:32:48 was up. It was really cool. I spent some time in Wyoming with a buddy who's a fishing game guy and, and we were, I was with a wildlife biologist, believe it or not. And we were stalking elk, you know, up at 11,000 feet. So I got, I got a lot of cool stuff done. Okay. So we haven't, I don't think we've had you on since this became a question on this podcast. Hank, our producer, you know, Hank, he thinks that he can catch a fish with his bare hands like a bear. Okay. What kind of fish, a live fish? I'm sure you could probably get one that's floating. I'm sure you've done this too, but I got in like a mode of a few weeks where I was just watching Planet Earth, any chance I got. And there was a segment about in Alaska during the salmon run or
Starting point is 00:33:39 whatever you call it, when the bears just go out and there's so many salmon that they literally just going around just picking up with their bare hands. And I said in my head, if I was in the place where that bear is, I could definitely go in there, grab a fish, take it home. You probably need to use your feet. Okay. And then use your hands and just kind of scoop it up on shore. But you probably have a shock. Well, I don't, I don't consider scooping it up on shore. Yeah, grab it with his hands. He has to complete the, he has to make a football ax. Okay. You got to have some big ass hands and grab all those fish. Cause they are, they'll knock them down and then you, then you I'll tell you the last time I was up there, which was last fall, we were fly fishing up there and
Starting point is 00:34:20 and I was just, I was down river and my son Brandon was up bubbling with a guide and I was walking back to the drift boat and I looked and down up down this current, something's floating and like I'm looking and trying to figure out what it is. It's a, it's a grizzly, it's equivalent of a grizzly. It's a brown bear and it's got his feet up in the, on the surface and it's floating like kids, like without a raft, but just kind of rafting down the river. Yeah. And I yelled at him and then they look and they yell and this thing took haul's ass off, you know, takes off, gets his feet in the ground and takes off, run the other way. But you could do that. Okay. You could just float down the river. Yeah. That'd be easier than catching
Starting point is 00:35:03 a fish with your hands. Yeah. You're kind of bearing the lead here, which is you scared to bear your presence. Up there. It's so different. They, they, they're not crazy about people. They, they, they're, they will run from you up there. You know, it's different in the Montana, Wyoming area where, you know, they actually are beginning to now become more aggressive and attack you. Right. Last time we had you on the show, I think it was right before the Super Bowl. It was the week before and we talked about a bear encounter that you had. Yes. And I asked Jared Goff about that at media night. I said, do you feel partially responsible? Like coach is no longer your head coach and instead he's out getting attacked, possibly killed by wildlife. He said that he
Starting point is 00:35:42 felt bad about that, but he knew that he was confident in your ability to escape a bear attack. So my question is, have you been, have you had any more dangerous encounters with bears? Not dangerous, but this was cool. Back in Wyoming, just a month or so ago, I was, I cruised into a fishing game in Cody, Wyoming to meet up with some buddies to go out and head out in the wilderness. And I walked in there and was just talking to the people in the front office. And one of the guys comes in, he goes, Hey coach, what's going on? I go, nothing man. What are you doing? He goes, come back here. Check this out. So he takes me back through the, you know, into this big kind of garage like area and they had a, they had a truck and then behind
Starting point is 00:36:19 it, they had a trailer hooked up to it and they had just trapped a male grizzly bear. There's probably about four years old. So up there, if they're becoming nuisance, they'll either trap them or most of the time trap them. But when they get them in the cage, they dart them and then they'll tranquilize them. And then they'll do, you know, physical and then chip them and do that. But anyway, I got in there and this thing was probably like you guys, you know, sometimes remember the days you wake up in the morning and you're bouncing off the walls? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's six. Yeah. Okay. Days a week. But was it? Oh, but that's how this thing was still drugged. It was, it wasn't quite together yet. And it was just kind of coming out of it's
Starting point is 00:36:59 bouncing the back of this cage. And, and they said, yeah, yeah. So I reached in, I grabbed his hind foot and felt its claws and stuff like that. And it was pretty cool. Like knives. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's an impressive animal. But anyway, they, they'll let it, they'll bring it to and then they'll take it out and they'll transport it, you know, and transplant it actually and then release it out someplace away where the people are. You are definitely an outdoorsman. I get the feeling that if we've just dropped you into Yellowstone with a knife, you could probably survive for a couple months. I just walked to my cabin. That's how close we are to Yellowstone. But, and it's different. You got to have a tremendous sense of respect for, for the outdoors, especially some
Starting point is 00:37:40 of the stuff. I mean, you know, you talk about fishing in Alaska and the things that you see, the mother nature, nature is amazing. It's amazing force and unpredictable. And, you know, you got to be careful and be with the right people. But anyway, yeah, I, I, you can kick it up on the show with your feet, your hands and that counts. I think he's got to palm it. He's got to maintain possession of the fish for this account. All right. So, uh, the other side of your life, football, you miss it. I'm assuming. Oh yeah. Yeah. I've been watching it real close. So have you been watching the NFL and college every single weekend? Yeah. Yeah. Just about. Who's your MVP? Is it Lamar? Um, you know, had you asked me, you know, yesterday before the game, I'd say
Starting point is 00:38:19 clearly Lamar, but that is amazing feet. And I know what he did last night, what Drew did last night is, is a accumulation of some amazing things over the years. But that is really hard to do what he did. And you're not going to give somebody an award just based on, on one, a single game performance. But yeah, Lamar, what they got going, of course, what they got going, it's, it's just amazing to watch the dual threat quarterback and watch them come in and then, you know, they go by, they disappear for a while, then they come back in. But there's never been one like Lamar. And you know, you can just, you can tell. I mean, the defenses are outnumbered. And that's the, that's the idea. I remember when, you know, we
Starting point is 00:38:59 were doing the RG three trade with St. Louis in Washington with Mike Shanahan talking to Mike about it. And, you know, that was quite a trade that we, we, you know, we executed and particularly because we had a quarterback of Sam Bradford, but Mike kept saying, you know, I got to do this, I got to do this. And because it gives me a one man advantage. Right. It basically does. You're, you're outnumbered on defense when you, when you're playing such an athlete like that. And now, now you can't even, with Lamar, you can't even spy the dude because there's no athlete on your defense that's, that's equivalent to him. You just can't get him down. And so yeah, he's, he's had a great year. It's been really fun to watch. That's interesting because if there is
Starting point is 00:39:36 an athlete that's good enough to spy Lamar, Jackson, they're going to move them to either playing wide receiver or running back or quarterback. So he's not even going to be a defensive. Yeah, he won't fit in the system. And you know, it's just everybody's trying different things. And, and it's interesting to watch, you know, watch the defensive minds and see what they try to do. And, you know, week after week after week, you know, from Wade Phillips a few weeks ago, that was, that was hard to watch. And then, you know, even Greg, you know, Greg Williams here who, who has some players who are missing mostly and things like that, about 42 or whatever, you know, it's just hard to do. So they'll be hard to stop. I mean, it worked in the playoffs last year,
Starting point is 00:40:15 whatever Anthony Lynn put together with, you know, putting seven defensive backs or however many it was on the field at any given time, that seemed to slow them down in the playoffs last year. If it were up to you, if we're talking defensive coordinator, Jeff Fisher, if you're game planning for Lamar Jackson, what would you do to stop them? Well, I don't tip my hat, but, you know, you got to do a lot of different things and you got to make that ball go out to the boundary if he's going to throw it. And he doesn't. They do such a great job. All those, all his big completions are inside the numbers and down the field. And, you know, you just got to give an ever-changing look and hope that you can one, get them in third down and maybe get off the field.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But it is definitely a situation where if you can hold them to three field goals or wins against the Ravens right now. Yeah. Well, so actually it's interesting you bring up third down because the other thing the Ravens are doing is basically just not punting. They're going for it on fourth down all the time. Watching football now from your perspective outside of the game, if you do get back in the game, are there things that you would do differently, like maybe being more aggressive on fourth down and saying, Hey, we're going to, the analytics have changed. People have started to get the numbers into the game a little bit more and do things a little differently go for two in different situations. Have you, have you done that like kind of? Yeah. I mean, I always
Starting point is 00:41:38 done that. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, the analytic thing is, is obviously it's trending right now. We saw what it did for the Browns a few years ago. It ruined the organization because that's what they stood behind. But everybody's interested in that. And basically analytics are all based on past based on past history. Right. And, you know, everything's different. Everything's subjective in the past. You don't know what the, what the, why the decision was made or who was heard or who was not heard or what the, where the momentum was. And there's all it's objective based on objectivity based on the past. But, you know, the game is so subjective right now. I mean, we flip over the officials and, you know, it's got to be clear and obvious and no one knows what
Starting point is 00:42:22 clear and obvious is. It's different. So there's a gut feel that, that you have to rely on when you're either going forward on fourth down or you're faking a punt or, you know, and those type of things. And, you know, you can't take that away. You can't rely on some guys down the hall sitting in a room, you know, punching on a computer, going back and finding information back from 15 years ago. It doesn't work. I mean, I saw it firsthand in a game. I was familiar with there was an individual helping us a head coach and his responsibility was to handle fourth down and, you know, he was the analytic guy. And, and ironically in this game, there were two fourth down opportunities that came up and, and he, he didn't go for one and then went for the
Starting point is 00:43:10 next. And in my opinion, they were both absolutely wrong, but he was, it was based on what the analytics recommendation is. It's got to be, it's got to be one of those things where whenever you see analytics, it happens in baseball as well, where I think there is the numbers are good and the numbers make everyone a lot smarter. But at the end of the day, there's an element, I think there was actually happened in the Belichick and Saban documentary where Belichick was like, you can throw all the analytics out. We just didn't tackle like, you know, sometimes it's like, Hey, if we don't want it more, if we don't, if we don't tackle, or if we just don't play, you know, the assignment that we're supposed to play, the numbers can't help you. Well, yeah, but who's
Starting point is 00:43:49 to say that the quarterback didn't go it up and Aaron Rogers like pull the defense off sides on fourth down and it converted. So here's another net and not in the conversion. Yeah. But see, that's the thing about it. And you just have to be real careful when you rely on it. Now, what it is is, is it's a convenient excuse. Well, analytics say go for it. So I went for it and we didn't convert. So it's okay, get off my ass. Right. You know, our dad had to sell the fans on why you made a certain decision. It's like, well, don't be mad because the probability said that that was the right thing to do. And it's true what you're saying. Like the, I think the, you know, whatever the, I can't remember what the exact percentage is for like a two point conversion. It's like 51,
Starting point is 00:44:28 52% something like that. Yeah. For the Bears, it's less. I know that because their offense has struggled all year. So it's like, you can't play exactly those numbers if your team, if you're, and for the Ravens, it's more like the Ravens will get a two point conversion. The Ravens will get three yards, two yards, more than 51%. Well, the Ravens are averaging, I don't know what it is, but 38 points a game. It's crazy. So why not go for it on foot down where the Bears are trying to win 13 to 10, you know, and hope that you got a kicker that can kick a field goal. So it's all different. You just have to watch. So no, it's okay. The team that I, you know, I'm a national right now and they're, they're, they're playing kicker. Yeah. You know, it's hard. Actually,
Starting point is 00:45:10 funny enough, their best kicker this year has been Cody Parky. Go figure. That's wild. Auburn University. I sat with his mom and dad for two years, watching Cody kick at Auburn with my son play. I mean, I'm a Cody fan. Did anybody ever say that that ball was tipped? Yes, people tried to, but I don't care. He's stunk all year. Okay. Well, that's, that's okay. We don't have to go back in time. It was tipped by the post. Okay. So I want, let's do some story time because you told some great stories last time you were on the show. Let's go back to that Super Bowl run. Okay. So the playoffs, so we, we did the miracle, the music city miracle last time you were on the playoff run that you had when you guys went to the Super Bowl. What's one of your
Starting point is 00:45:52 favorite memories from that run? Well, you know, the first game was, was, was Buffalo and that was a music city miracle. So second game, now we got to go on the road and we go up to Indy and we're playing Peyton up there. And that was the, that the one thing that happened that game, besides from us winning was there was a, there was, we had a punt way deep to my left and the ball was returned about 70 yards. Indy returned upon about 70 yards. And, and I had both the kicker and a punter, Al Dugroco and Craig Hentrick come running to me going, Jeff, he stepped out of bounds. He stepped out of bounds back way back here. I go, and you can't trust players to challenge plays. And I go, are you sure? And these are two guys I could trust. And so anyway, back then in instant
Starting point is 00:46:40 replay, the head coach had to wear a pager and it had two buttons, had a button on the top and button on the side. And if you got them both together, then that would page the referee and he, the referee would shut it down. And that was how you notified him that you want to challenge a play. So I'm standing there page and page and page and page and nothing's happening. And they're getting ready to run. And I run on the field and I call time out. And so anyway, I call time out and they review the play, sure enough, he stepped out of bounds, the field's flipped. And anyway, we ended up winning the game. So two days after the game in the mail, I get this, I get this, this piece of glass covered this like, like shelf. And in case of emergency break glass,
Starting point is 00:47:25 and they had a red shop towel on it for, for, you know, for your flag thing. So going, all right, this is really cool. But hey, you know what? We got to go down, play Jacksonville again. Okay. So we beat Indy up there. We go down to play Jacksonville. Jacksonville is 14 and two. There are only two losses have come to whomever, Tennessee. Right. Okay. So, and they just hard to beat a team three times. Of course it is. And they just said smoke. They smoked Miami and in their first and Reno's last game. Yes. Yes. Nice go. And that was a really bad people forget Reno Jacksonville put up like 60. It was 63. I think nothing or seven. So, so anyway, keep in mind, keep this in mind. There's only one week between championship game and Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:48:10 last time. There's always been two weeks there. So could you imagine that happening now? I would love it because Big Cat's birthday is on January 30 minds on the 31st. You occasionally the Super Bowl would be on a birthday. And you guys would be all and ass across across the country in your van trying to get down to for media week. Your Super Bowl. Your Super Bowl was my birthday. Okay. January 30. I had a birthday party. Yeah. It was snowing outside. You had a birthday party for my birthday. Yeah. Thank you. We hadn't even met yet. It was a Super Bowl party. It was great. Why don't they do that? Bring it back to January 30th. Okay. What did you serve? Domino's pizza and two liters of orange soda. Perfect. I've got dogs and popcorn. Nice. So your dad got you a popcorn
Starting point is 00:48:51 machine. Well, yeah. And he pretended that we all got tickets to the game. That's so cool. Yeah. One week. Well, you guys can talk about this later. I'm going to speak over them now. Yeah. One week between between Super Bowl or to conference championship game and Super Bowl. So the week before we play Jacksonville down there, we got to send our advanced crew to Atlanta and have them come in there and check out the hotel and do all that stuff because you don't know if you win, you're going to be there day after. So you do all this stuff in advance. So we send our crew down there. Jacksonville sends their crew down there. And their crew was a little this is the feedback I got. They were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Coach Coughlin wants the rooms
Starting point is 00:49:29 to be like this. And this is how we're going to do the hotel. And they were kind of like, you know, this this games really doesn't even matter. We've already got one type of thing. Right. And so anyway, we we win the game and we go down. It was a mess because we had to go from Nashville just to Atlanta, but Atlanta's frozen. So I had to meeting the night that the night after the game and the players come in, I got to you got to do tickets and all that kind. So you can imagine this at the day after the championship game, they're going down for Super Bowl week and Monday media days Tuesday. So I keep the coaches behind we game plan. I go down with the players. We have this week and it's just a mess and can't practice outside all this stuff. And so Friday
Starting point is 00:50:12 press conference. Okay. And it's the last question. Now this is where the press conference were both coaches dressed up. So coach for meal and I are dressed up and you could take your picture by that, you know, the Lombardi trophy. And so last question out of the back to me, I said, yeah. And he goes, Steve, what's it like to play in three different venues in three years or something like that? And I said, well, my name's Jeff. And and I said, it's actually for if you would include all Tel Stadium in Jacksonville, because that was like another home. Yeah. For us because we had just one there twice that year and we've been winning there. You own that stadium. And that didn't go over very well with the Jacksonville Jaguar fans. But I mean, if they don't like it, then beat you.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah. So what did I just saw the Jacksonville quarterback coincidentally in Oakland, he said he's some more middle fingers. Oh, Minshew. Okay, then he had his lifetime. Well, that's how it was every year after I went down to Jacksonville because I had told everybody that the world that Jacksonville would just be another home, home place for us. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So yeah, that was it was kind of some cool stuff to happen back then create. Did Dick Vermille cry during that media day? I don't know. We were separate. Oh, yeah. And I never got to I never actually, I didn't get to get to him when the game was over. I couldn't get to him to shake his hand. And so, you know, obviously we talked after but I got him after the well after the game.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Did you ever regret wearing that vest? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I did. But I paid for I paid for I paid for one of my kids tuition with it with the vest. Oh, yeah. Look at that's the best. Yeah, I remember the best starter. So they said, Hey, we got this. Will you wear this? And I said, Yeah, well, well, we have to wear it's indoors. Wait, that was the first time you'd worn that vest. Yeah. Oh, come on, coach. How could you do that? Well, they paid me for that. I actually didn't mind the game right there. That's it. The game was decided. I still have it. You want it. You got a new building here. You want it? We'll put it up. Yeah, absolutely. But we frame it. Yes. Yes. Good vest. I'll take it out of the two teams where there are openings right now. It's
Starting point is 00:52:36 Washington DC in Carolina. Which of those two situations would be more attractive to somebody? Well, I think both of them are attractive. You've got you have decent rosters on this is just my opinion. Not not going to pick one or the other, but there's decent rosters in both places. You know, both of them have a somewhat of a quarterback situation. It's a little bit in flux. So they're comparable. You don't know what's going to happen with Cam. You got a young guy that showed he can do some things. And that's also the case there. I mean, you got the the horrific injury and then you got Kasey. Now you got Haskins there. So, you know, there's there's a lack of stability at that position. And, you know, and I only bring that up because,
Starting point is 00:53:24 you know, when I was out during the 2011 season, the year that I took off, when I did come back, I was really fortunate that I had an option to choose. And I narrowed that down to two. It was Miami with St. Louis. And I ultimately made the decision based on on one reason and one reason alone. And that was St. Louis because of the quarterback situation. Because at that point, Sam Bradford was coming in the second year. I love Sam was a franchise quarterback. Great, great rookie season. He did. So here I come in and, you know, we were previously to my arrival there. No team had lost more games in a five-year span than the Rams and NFL history is what I was told. We call that Chris Long. Yeah. And so, of course it is. So, so we they're coming
Starting point is 00:54:16 off two and 14. I come in and there was a bad football team and we we started building and building. And so we're all excited because we got Sam Bradford and we and year one, we were seven, eight, one and four, one and one in the division with Sam. I mean, we're on our way. Guess what happened in year two? Got hurt. And guess what happened year three? Got hurt. Okay. And so, you know, you end up who knows what happened had Sam not gotten hurt. But you know, that's just the business. And so, but if someone's going to choose, they're going to want to go in and choose whichever situation is most stable at the quarterback position or who's got somebody earmarked in mind to go develop. I'm curious about this because, you know, we're talking about the coaching
Starting point is 00:54:56 position in the NFL and there's always turnover and it's always, you know, black Monday when everyone in the season ends. You've been on the other side where you have, you know, had two times where it's kind of ended in Tennessee and then in LA. I'm going to go on the record here. It was my choice in Tennessee. Okay. So in in a situation though, even so both situations, do you kind of know, do you feel that maybe something's going on in the, in the, in the building? Like, are these teams that are coming down the stretch here in the last two weeks? And they kind of know, like, Hey, this is it. Like, is it hard to get players to get up and to keep everyone kind of focused? It's not at all. It's, it's, you don't want to say it's their job, but players aren't going to go
Starting point is 00:55:41 out and, and, you know, go through pretty good and warm up some step on the field for the open kickoff, not prepared to play and not play hard. Right. Now you can, you know, I can, I can watch games and say, okay, this team is playing hard, but they lack toughness. Okay. That, that I can see that, but everybody's going to play hard. Now, I mean, a great example is just the stuff that you read today with, with respect to the Falcons and they're playing for Dan Quinn's job. Yeah. Yeah, he does. That's a cool thing. So, you know, they're all going to go out and play, but they, at the end of the day, it's out of their control. And, you know, you don't, nobody wants to see anybody, well, at least no one in the profession wants to see anybody get relieved
Starting point is 00:56:25 with their duties. I, you know, there's, there's those, I think there's those that are out there that kind of like it because it's stuff to talk about. And I told you he was going to get in so-and-so again, they're going to guess who's going to be, it's a, it's, it's, it's part of sports. Yeah. Maybe you're looking at us right now. No, no, you're not talking about it. Sometimes we're on a fire everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Never said everyone should fire anyone. And, and, and what the reality is, is that these guys have given their heart and soul in every moment of their time to try to win football games for their team and for the owner, let alone themselves. And if they're doing it right, they're, personally, it should be the third, you should be the third reason
Starting point is 00:57:06 on the list that you're trying to win games. You know, you, you're doing it for your football team and your owner. You know, it's not a self-serving thing. But you got to understand from a fan perspective, when your team stinks, the only recourse you have is to just say fire everyone. That's right. And I'm good. Yeah. Oh, it does. It gives fans hope. Yeah. It does. But let me ask you the question. Why is it just happening every three years? Yeah, no, it's a revolving door. Yeah. So, you know, you get fans hope and then they get their hope up for a year or two and then everything's good. And now we cycle back again and give them more hope and more hope. And, you know, I mean, that's happened all around the league. Philadelphia right now, like Philadelphia
Starting point is 00:57:47 as recently as a week and a half, during the game last week, they wanted to fire Doug Peterson. This guy brought your city a suit. Oh, yeah. But, but you guys didn't get the point. He forgot how to coach. Yeah. That's right. He woke up one morning and forgot how to coach. Yeah. No, it's a compliment to a franchise like the Pittsburgh Steelers who just never fire coaches and they stick through. But look around. Look at Seattle and New Orleans and New England and up until a few weeks ago, you know, Carolina and but those teams that the teams that are that are building and planning and maintaining, that's hard to do. Maintaining is especially now. Well, I should, I should say it's probably easier to maintain now than it was back when, particularly
Starting point is 00:58:37 because you, we didn't have free agency as you know it now. So you can go out. It's like, Philly was a great example a couple years ago. You know, I had someone call me that was in the industry that said it right the week for the trading deadline that he called me and said, well, I got Philly going to Super Bowl and I go, well, why is that? He goes, well, they just traded for JGI and that's the last missing piece that they needed. And I had him as a Final Four team, but they're going to Super Bowl now. This was an October. So you can build through free agency if you do it right, you know, but so I think watching it now, people aren't doing it right. You know, you, all right, we want to go get a free agent wide receiver that had a hundred
Starting point is 00:59:24 balls last year and hypothetically 60 of his balls were slants. Okay. And he was the Pro Bowl receiver, but you don't have a slant in your offense. He's not going to fit into your offense. Right. So don't go overspend for this guy. If you can't, if you don't have a place for him, it's just, it's just people lost track on that. And I blame that partly on a lot of the analytic things because people are just, they're making decisions based on numbers, based on height, weight, speed, and, and these type of things rather than the old school guys who are sitting there watching these guys play. Okay. There's no substitute for putting tape or film or video, whatever you call it now on, and watching a guy play. There's no substitute and there's not enough
Starting point is 01:00:11 good people in the league that are studying tape. I would, I would go on a limb and say, there's, there's executives in this league that don't know how to watch tape or would rather not watch tape. Just get, if you can go get eight opinions of player A and six of them like them and four of them don't, then you like them. Yeah. But if, if it's split down the middle, then you're going to go on to another player. That's how it's done now. And that, and that's why I believe that the teams that are there year after year after year are doing the hard grunt work. It's, you know, you got to shut the door. You got to sit down and you got to watch tape and you got to do that for pro free agency, for draft, for college free agency, and you got to do it on
Starting point is 01:00:59 a weekly basis. I think there's probably room for both in the same equation. So you just described like a free agent, a wide receiver that you're thinking about bringing in, he runs slants all the time and your playbook doesn't feature those. I mean, what, what you're describing is, yeah, you can watch film and pick that up. It's also helpful to have somebody quantify that and say, Hey, 55% of his catches were on slant routes. And then, you know, okay, maybe we shouldn't give him a five year, $35 million contract because he doesn't fit into what we do philosophically as our team, because we only run slant patterns with our outside wide receivers, 5% of the time. Right. I mean, there is. And I just brought up a hypothetical scenario to simplify it that,
Starting point is 01:01:39 I mean, you got to get the right guy, you got to plug the right guys into your systems. Now, which guys are easier to plug in? Well, they're probably the further away from the ball, they are, they're probably easier. They are to plug in your system, the wirecevers, the corners, you know, those kind of guys. So, but it's, you know, people need to do the work. And I don't think the worst getting done. Have you seen, so Herm Edwards obviously went down to Arizona State has had a lot of success. You've seen some guys go from the pro game to the college game. Do you see, you have any interest kind of in that or seeing maybe a program being like, I'd like to, even if you're not a head coach, like going, you know, help out and be part of a college program going
Starting point is 01:02:19 forward. Well, I have, I spent quite a bit of time, I think, since I was here last on the college game, not necessarily just studying different teams, but just in general, you know, the, you know, the recruiting and the compliance and all those things, the organizations and, you know, the, you know, the personnel departments, who's got the bigger personnel departments, who's doing a better job and who's getting these guys and who, who's, who's not getting the guys and who's recruited and why and who's not recruited and why not. And, and so, yeah, there, there's some, some themes to it. Coaching is coaching. I think there's a misconception out there, and I'm not saying this, taking, saying this personally, but people say, well,
Starting point is 01:03:05 you never recruited. Well, someone that says something along those lines with respect to a directed towards an NFL guy that's looking at college, I think is pretty simple-minded because as NFL guys, we're on college campuses all the time during the spring. Right. We're getting, there is an element of recruiting that takes place through for agency, but it's different. But the point is, is that we get these kids four years after three years or four years after they've entered the university. Okay. And for all intents and purposes, these guys have come into the university with clean slates, looking forward to being student athletes and, and leave the university with some issues, you know, that they're, that they're bringing to the NFL. Those are what
Starting point is 01:03:56 we deal with all the time in the NFL, whatever those issues are. And, you know, the character, the background checks, the character checks and all those things that you do prior to the draft. And so the attraction to me with respect to the college game is to be able to go get a young man as he enters the university before he makes some decisions that affect him later in life and help, help guide him with respect to those decisions. Because did you see that? I saw the commercial. I thought it was Jerry Rice. I got it just a clip of it, but he was saying 45,000 or somebody people going to universities, but only whatever X the number was are going to end up in the NFL. Did you see that commercial recent? I know that's sad. Okay. Yeah. Oh, is that what
Starting point is 01:04:45 this? Okay. Well, it's, it's the truth. And, you know, the everybody steps on campus wherever to have an opportunity to, to get to the NFL. The fact of the matter is, in reality, is it's not going to happen. So why not go in there and help turn these young men into adult, mature adults? Right. You know, it's a, that to me is the attraction of college football and then competing and doing all those other things. But I just think it's, it's, it's really been interesting for me just to stand outside and watch it. My oldest son was a defense, according to the Big Sky conference this past season. So I made five of his games and I was there during spring training there during camp and I got to see it all happen. Now granted, it's a smaller conference,
Starting point is 01:05:29 but it's good football. And, you know, you just multiply that by 10 to the big stage of Power Fives and everything and take it. So along those same lines, you, I saw an article that you were quoted in not too long ago about social media and how your pro like players using social media. Do you, there was also the save and bell check clip that went around that was basically like, you don't need social media. Have you seen that evolve as like, hey, look, the guys are going to do what they're going to do. You've always kind of been like a player coach where you're going to let your guys be your guys and you don't see it as like an issue at all. You know. Well, here's, here's an example. When, back when, when you stood up and talked about just
Starting point is 01:06:15 general media relations to your football team and it's that presentation, you do a training camp week, day three or day four, just talking about, you know, media relations. One of the things that you say is how important it is to be positive and speak the truth and smile, you know, all those things on camera. And, you know, but don't be one of those guys that is that, that leak that, you know, that, that source and things like that. And because this is what can happen, you can tell somebody off the record something and he tells someone who tells someone who tells someone who now runs it and now it's tracked back to you and we got a problem in the locker room. But the point is, is that that's a 30 minute conversation or maybe a reminder once or twice
Starting point is 01:07:00 during the year and that's back in the, in the old days. Now it's got to be a continuous, continual educational process with respect to social media because you've seen where social media can get you in trouble with respect to what you say and what you don't say. It's happened unfortunately this week. A really good player in the national football league was Let Go, one that I drafted. Yeah, because of something that he said and or posted. And so, you know, there's just, you just have to spend more time in it and it's just things change. Times are changed, you have to spend more time in it. But to get back to your question, I'm not opposed to it. You know, I took it on my shoulders just in the last eight or 10 months. And I mean,
Starting point is 01:07:44 it's important. It's the way we operate now. But there are also a lot of other things that are, that need to be discussed with respect to the players. They're different. You know, they don't, I mean, every player in the national football league, I say every, but most of them have sleeping disorders. And you go, Oh, they got sleep apnea? No, no. They just don't go to sleep early because they're on their phone. I have that. Yes, you do. Yeah. Okay. So are you, how productive are you with six o'clock in the morning? Oh, what? In slash a, not applicable. Perfect. Okay. Well, that's the players nowadays, they, they're up a little bit longer than they were in years past. So why start the day at six in the morning? Started a little bit longer. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:30 then the other thing is that we did in St. Louis that I got a kick out of this, some other people picked up on, but, you know, we, we took their St. Louis and LA, you know, put their, take their cell phones and put them in a basket in the hallway, you know, turn them off. Okay. But studies have shown that it's 25 minutes max in the classroom environment. That's it. Because on minute 26, their mind is what's on my phone in the hallway and any other information is being fed to them has got no chance of sinking in. So give them a phone break, let them go out, check their phones. Cliff Kessberg had that and he was, he was kind of criticized that, right? People were like, oh, he's giving him a phone break. He stole that from Coach Fisher. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Look at him. Yeah. Yeah. So when you saw that story come out, you were like, you son of a baby. No, I didn't. I didn't at all. I just, we, I had indirectly had some conversation. Regarding that, I want everybody to be successful, especially your alma mater and, and he was there for a very, very quick coffee. Yeah. But, but you want everybody to be successful there. But it's just common sense things. That's all it is. And you know, Bill's, I love to sit in some of Coach Belichick's meetings when he's talking about that, talking about it. It's common sense stuff. You know, don't hurt the football team. Put the team first and you are a member of this team and we don't need distractions. I mean, distractions will, will tear apart your locker room and
Starting point is 01:09:49 they're debilitating and you can avoid most of them. Right. And, and it's your ability to deal with them really determines your success. And they, and they come in all shapes and sizes and colors and everything, a distraction. It can be a move in the franchise. It could be an arrest. It could be I want more. I want the ball more or whatever it is. Or I didn't really say that I didn't mean that, but now all of a sudden things come up and it's how you go about dealing with them. So one thing that I like about you is that you are, you have very confident opinions in most things. You have a philosophy on most things. And I want to know like, what is your general philosophy on life? Because you seem to know exactly what you want, exactly what you don't like
Starting point is 01:10:33 about nearly every single topic that we've ever brought up to you. So like, just from a broad background, are you a spiritual guy? Yes. Yeah, I am. I was raised that way and I had spirituality in my life that increased over time. Yeah. Is it a personal thing? Yeah, it's a personal thing. Do I preach? No, I don't. But, but I'm, I'm family oriented. I believe you have to take time off what you do. I was talking to somebody last night in a phone conversation that's very, very successful in his business. And I said, Have you taken some time for yourself? He goes, No, I'm too busy. I'm having fun. But I will eventually. Well, you need to have that time. And I always have been one that I didn't bring work home with me. Now, I may stay late at the
Starting point is 01:11:23 office, you know, I stay until I got the work done, but I wouldn't bring it home with me. I didn't have a viewing station at my house that had kids in the house, you know, and stuff. So don't take it home with you when you leave, leave. And I always was, uh, I wanted players and coaches and everybody to know how important family time was and off time was and be able to plan for it and take advantage of it and kind of family oriented kind of a person because, um, I think that's important. It's grounding, you know, and, you know, you can be crazy and have fun. And, and nobody likes it. You guys, some of the guys, Chris Long and some of the guys that I've had over the time, nobody likes to joke around and, and, and prank and, and do things and, and more
Starting point is 01:12:09 than I do. I mean, I love guys having fun. The bottom line is this, you know, anybody that comes to work has the right to park if you drive or when you get out to run in the building, because you can't, you can't wait to get there because you're looking forward to coming to work. Okay. That's a good job. And I think, I think in time, we had too many people in leadership positions that don't create that environment because people do their best when they're looking forward to, to come into work and they're fired up. And, you know, and, and, you know, the thing that I learned real quickly about life in the national football league as a head coach is that, you know, you all fired up, you get into office and you can't wait to get there and you're going to get all
Starting point is 01:12:54 this stuff done. And then for the next two hours, you have that unanticipated stuff that comes up. This problem or that issue or, you know, I've said this many times, mom wants a different color escalated today, two days before a playoff game and she wants it now. And you're starting quarterback, can't focus on the game plan because mom's wearing them out. I mean, that's, so things come up and it's your ability to deal with them. And I was, and, and I said this, and I probably said this on this show, but when I took over as the head coach and for the Houston dollars in 1994 as interim, 95, my first year, 80% of my stuff was excess and those and 20% of my stuff was their stuff that happens that comes up, the unanticipated. But you can make a case that when I left, it was flipped.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Oh yeah, with the move and everything. Yeah, everything. It's yeah. So, what it comes down to is your job as a leader, as a head coach, is to make sure that they are emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually, whatever, prepared for the day. Yeah, it's interesting. That's it. Because if they are, then you're going to get the most out of them each day because the coach because, well, we're just going to get better today. Right. You know, well, that's easy or easier said than done. You know, how do you go about that doing it? Create the environment where they can do that. Right. You know, you look around the league, guys aren't being taught technique now. You look at college, some of the colleges that are struggling, the programs
Starting point is 01:14:25 that are struggling, they're not developing players. They're not getting the technique that they need. They're not emphasizing special teams or whatever it is. There's reasons for lack of success, different places. All right. I got one last question. This has been awesome with coach Fisher. It's Seeky question promo code take. You get $10 off, go to a NFL game, go to a playoff game promo code take $10 off Seeky. Okay. My last question. I've always wondered this. The time when you, when all the coaches get together in the league meetings, it's like sometime in April, March, you're out in Florida or Arizona. You guys all get a picture together. Right. What does that picture like? Well, it's ever changing as you would imagine. I took it for 20 years
Starting point is 01:15:13 and I have every single one of them. Okay. Are they on your wall? I do too. I don't, they're not on my wall. No, I don't really have anything on my walls. That's a perfect coach thing right there. You just have them like on the ground, leaning on the ground. No, there's, I got some cool masters flags signed by masters winners on the ground, ready to go up on the wall. But if there's anything I collect, it's that. But it was, it was really cool. I mean, you know, way back when the head coaches that were in this league, I mean, Marty Schottenheimer and Dan Reeves, you know, and then, you know, when I left, there were just a few left. Right. But, but when you have that conversation, was there ever like a, who gets to sit where alpha, like, oh, I get this
Starting point is 01:15:59 seat or I get to stand here? No, it's usually, Hey guys, who are we missing? You know, who's not here? Well, he's not at the meeting. So we only, we only have 31. Okay, we got 30. Who's missing? And then it was for years was just anybody know where Gruden is, you know, go check the closest Hooters. Yeah, where's the mirror? He's in front of a mirror, making faces. Yeah. And you put you in the front of the sun every time too. So you guys look terrible. Can't wear glasses. Can't wear glasses staring at the sun. Maybe a long night, the night before. And we're supposed to tee off in 20 minutes. We never had anything to do with the meetings because I always passed all the rules. You're just there for the picture. Yeah, there for the picture. Was there a gentleman's agreement
Starting point is 01:16:44 that only Andy Reed would get to wear a Hawaiian shirt? Hawaiian shirt and shorts. Yes. Yes. Just Andy. Always, always, always. All right, we'll coach. I got one last question. Oh, yeah, go ahead. So hypothetically, if you were a former NFL coach and you were maybe looking to be gainfully employed in the next football season, would a person like that consider a general management position? A person could, but this person wouldn't. Oh, okay. What about an owner? Would they be considered being an owner? Just write that check to give you a football team? Yeah. That would be difficult. Okay, you're turning down an ownership. You won't. I have a lot of my money has been spent on fishing. All right. That makes sense. Oh, I actually have one last, last question. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Your dog kisses the fish. Yes, you saw that. Dirty. Yeah. Oh my God. His dog, when he catches a fish, he has his dog kiss the fish before he sets before catching release. Yeah. Yes. How does your dog not go crazy trying to eat the fish? I trained him. I had him when he's six weeks and I trained him. He goes wherever I go and he's in the drift boat. He's with me wherever and we catch a fish and he gets excited. He's actually a bird dog, a retriever type, but he loves to go fishing and he just gets it. And yeah, that actually was a picture of my fish with my brother this fall. And I said, hey, let Dirkie kiss it. And he called Dirk over and Dirkie kissed it. And I happen to take a picture just as is. They're making it out. But the point is, is that fish was back in the water in 20
Starting point is 01:18:25 seconds, man. We released those fish. Does the fish ever get weirded out that like a dog's making out with me right now? I don't know. There's probably some that I've caught a second time, but I haven't asked. Yeah. And they're like, oh, not again. They go back down there. You'll never believe the afternoon I just said. You're not going to use a dog tongue, a dog tongue as a fly. That's for sure. I just got the second base with some mammal. Yeah, I keep trying to bite these worms and end up with my dog dog. Thanks for bringing Dirk up. Yeah, that's my boy. All right, well, coach, thank you so much. Thank you guys. Always a pleasure. Yeah. And good luck. And we'll keep in touch for sure. Likewise. Thank you. Have a great holiday. You guys and the listeners. Thank
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Starting point is 01:22:39 Liam and at part of my take. Thank you for the recommendation. I drank Chivis. I had a great time. Hell yes. All right, let's do some segments and then we'll get to guys on chicks. First up, we have a This League. So you have one and I have one. Go ahead. You start. So Dan Mullins. These leagues. This leagues. In the SEC, Dan Mullen was talking about it. What? This league. Whose league? Whom's league? Who's on league? First, whose league is it? That's a classic Abbott and Costello routine right there. This is about the SEC. Dan Mullen, head coach of Florida, the Gators. He was talking about how he likes to have fun. He doesn't get enough of a rep as being like one of the fun SEC coaches. Maybe go fuck a shark, Dan. Maybe get a picture of you
Starting point is 01:23:27 fucking a shark. Then we'll start talking about it. Well, he does have his wife kiss every player. That's true. Well, his wife has fun. Yeah. Fun family. Yeah, really fun family. So he was saying he likes to have fun. Maybe not Joey Freshwater fun, right, but he likes to have fun. And you'll recall Joey Freshwater was the name that Lane Kiffin was allegedly using for himself going to Alabama bars hitting on various women allegedly and telling them that his name was Joey Freshwater, which is such a great name. It's that in Ron Mexico for greatest aliases of all time. Yeah. Who's Ron Mexico again? Michael Vick after he was trying to get STD checks. And then the NFL denied like anyone making a custom Ron Mexico jersey. So Dan Mullen and Lane Kiffin now have a
Starting point is 01:24:13 rivalry. Now they got beef going. Yeah. Thankfully the SEC has a terrible scheduling situation. So they might not play for like 20 more years ever. But I love this because this is why we wanted Lane Kiffin back. Yeah. It's perfect. It contributes to the soap opera. Maybe they'll run into each other coaching at a senior bowl or something. Yeah. And they'll get into a bar fight. No, Dan Mullen will just like, well, Dan Mullen better not have his wife around. Let's just say that. Yeah. Because she's already going to kiss him. That's almost too easy for Lane though. Yeah. Lane likes the thrill of the chase a little bit. That's true. He can kiss her anytime he wants. All right. So my this league is the Warriors were named team of the decade. We're doing
Starting point is 01:24:52 an end of the decade list. We're going to do one for our mega episode. But we have the Warriors as a team of the decade. They tweeted out like a recap of the decade. Every single year was like pictures. Not one picture with Kevin Durant in it. This week omitted from history. Little passive aggressive step ball hog aggressive. They're insane. Just did just forgot about the guy who won two NBA finals MVP. Yeah. So how many shots of Draymond were there a lot. There's a few actually the more important how many shots of Javill were included. I don't know if there was there was a couple of team pictures. So maybe I don't know how they got the team pictures without they just airbrush them out. They just use well they use a team picture when he wasn't on the team
Starting point is 01:25:36 then they use the like shots of the sideline when he when he was on the team. So this league I also they should have also given credit to Mark Jackson for putting that team together. True. And then that's those are basically his champions in there. He'll remind you that Mark Jackson was really the architect of these Golden State Warriors. Greatness in them. All right. Next up we have a PR one on one for our good friend John Rothstein. So he is in a little the Internet. I wouldn't even say it's a big deal. But it probably is because John Rothstein takes his job seriously which isn't a bad thing. But anyway it's definitely not a big deal. Not a big deal. There was a someone foyid the intercollegiate foyid John Rothstein's text messages to coaches
Starting point is 01:26:20 because there was a rumor which I think is just something we've said. I think he said that he texts every coach saying good luck. But he foyid the text message conversations John Rothstein has had with various coaches in college basketball and John Rothstein texts good luck to the coach on the day of the game. And the FOIA showed that there were many coaches that just never replied. Fred Hoiberg I'm looking at you. A lot of them did reply though and say hey thanks John. So now everyone's saying this is very unjournalist of him because he's shouldn't be saying good luck to coaches. Why. But if he's wishing good luck to both sides everyone he just wants everyone to play well. It's just so petty people are coming after our guy. It's sad that in this day and age
Starting point is 01:27:04 people get made fun of for using manners. Yeah. And so texting a coach before a game. Good luck coach. And also this doesn't even cover all the universities that you can't foil like Duke University. It's not like he's saying he's sure him and coach K go back and forth multiple times a day. He's not saying he's rooting for them. He's just saying good luck. Yeah good luck. Hope there's no injuries. That's a nice thing to say. And so I don't know why people are if anyone has a big deal with this. Come fight us. Come fight us to our office. Come fight us. I will actually punch somebody. I will too. You want to fight somebody. Yeah I'll fight someone. If you have a problem with John Rothstein texting good luck and most of the time getting left just completely ignored by the coach.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Come fight. I will fight you. Also it's just me and bubble were talking about this earlier. I don't you have to be a total psycho to have your red receipts your read receipts on right. Yes. But bubble loves having his read receipts on. He doesn't understand why anybody doesn't damn it's because you want to ghost people sometimes. But we got to be mysterious. Keep them on their toes. Then they get the point. They know exactly what you're doing if you leave them on red. So you do it on purpose. You just like being mean to you. You're more mean than I am. I like being mean but them not knowing that I'm being mean savage bro. I mean yeah that's that's like petty wars by you. Yeah. That's the type of guy I am.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Text you you petty wars. I petty wars him all the time. Also like I mentally sometimes will just like I read a text message and then I answer it in my brain but I forget to text the person back and then like eight hours later I'm like oh fuck but I wouldn't want them to be like oh he read this what an asshole. I actually you know what I will in fairness to journalism I will say I have one problem with John Rossi and doing this. If a coach doesn't reply like three or four times he should tweet he should text him being like worst of luck today and see what they say. Just kind of do a cross up on it. Yeah right exactly like oh now I have your attention. Yeah you didn't like it when I when I you didn't appreciate the fact that I was just wishing you
Starting point is 01:29:03 luck. Now you get bad luck. Yeah just the old trick in college like right Mary had a little lamb in the middle of one of your essays and see if her professor even reads it. No chance. No chance. So we got your back John Rossi and open an invite to anyone who is mad about this genuinely mad. You know what actually be mad. Yeah we will fight you. Well big cat will fight you. I just know you said you punch someone too. Well if he beats you up then I'll fight him. No come on man. I'll be the boss. Wish me good luck first. Yeah I'll text you and say good luck against this nerd. What's the guy's name that's going to fight us. We don't know. Hypothetic. There can't be anyone who actually cares. Who's mad about this. I there cannot be.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Dockage. No. Dockage no chance. Well I'll tell you who's probably mad about it now that they know that they're going to get some clout by fighting you as a good friend Doug Gottlieb. We'll just pretend to be mad about it. Yeah. OK. No but they can't pretend to be mad. They have to be genuinely mad. I have to look in your eyes and have you be like yes I'm offended by the fact that John Rossi texts good luck to every single coach in America. Doug's only mad because he's not a coach. Right. So he doesn't get the text messages from him. Maybe that's maybe that would be the new way to announce hiring is John Rossi texts. You good luck. Good luck coach. That's how you know you got to get that said. There you go. Foya sounds like what Mike Portnoy would say if
Starting point is 01:30:14 you gave him the word foyer foyer. That doesn't sound like it's pronounced correctly from that's where you hang your hat up for you. All right. Last up before we get to guys on the Italian for some reason. We stay relevant baseball. So there's a new rule and it is that every pitcher has to face three batters. Is that right. Yes. You can't bring in a lefty specialist. Is it a beneficially enacted. Nobody knows when things are going to do in this ball. They just say a lot of shit. That's kind of that makes no sense. It's the ultimate way to say the world. The submarine pitching industry. Yeah. The sub industry. You know who else was concerned about the sub industry. Who. The H. man. H. man. We don't talk about it. We don't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:30:57 This is I like this rule. I don't like it. I like it. It's designed to speed the game up. Yeah. But I think baseball has become too focused on like they're they think they're one issue with baseball is the fact that some people think it takes too long and that's not people's issue with baseball. No it's not. But I like this rule because I just like the idea. I actually think they should go one further and in a pitcher it gets in the game and they have to finish the inning because it would be so funny watching a pitcher just die out there and give up a million home runs. And like this guy doesn't have it. I think they should just make one position player pitch one inning every game. I'm OK with that as well. And you get to select what inning it is. I'm OK
Starting point is 01:31:34 with that as well. If so if you were if you were in charge of a team would you have your guy like lead off like first inning pitches get out of the way. Yeah. Would you wait to see how the game developed. Probably or would you just convert some of your pitchers to position players. So then you can like your bullpen you basically make your bullpen your outfield. But then they have to bat. Yeah. So you just only draft guy Shay Ohtani becomes the most powerful guy in all of baseball like a brilliant phraser in that movie where he's on the grass. Yeah where the perfect game. Yeah. Yeah. And hit the perfect game. People don't forget. Guys on chicks Hank. Hey guys. So I recently bought my husband the short sleeve part of my take sweatshirt and he looks amazing in it. He
Starting point is 01:32:16 wears it all the time and I can't get enough of it. Great purchase. Just wanted to say thank you for creating such a great. Wow. Interesting design. Where could they buy that. And I heard that you guys are close to hitting a bonus if you sell a few more. So I just wanted to write this and let you guys know that it's a great shirt. She's really plugged into all the info. You left out the second part of the email though when she was like we're having so much sex way more sex way better sex because of that. Yeah. Every day he wears it we have sex. Yeah every day. Yeah. It's a lucky shirt when I see the sleeves get cut off. I know I'm about to roll up his other sleeve. It's all sex. He jumps he stands up on the bed and he gets going. So yeah. But if you want to get one you
Starting point is 01:32:55 can on the Barclays Sports Store. Oh wow. They are really good. That's crazy. That's seamless. I know I just love it. It's one of those things where it's like they almost read my mind. Yeah. Sup boys. It'll be my boyfriend and I's two year anniversary on Friday. He told me we're going out to a really nice restaurant and then afterwards we were seeing Star Wars. I really don't want to go see Star Wars. But I also think he might propose that night. So do I agree to see Star Wars and hope that he proposes because if I say no to stars he definitely won't propose that. Wait. This has to be the lowest floor highest ceiling night of all time. You can either you actually think there's a chance you're getting proposed to or it could
Starting point is 01:33:34 literally be dressing up to go see Star Wars. It's unbelievable. Part of the dress up nice. But dress up. Oh yeah. Getting putting on like a nice dress. We're going to go like like we are going to do your hair like Princess Leia dressed up as Jar Jar Binks. I'll be I'll be I'll be the guy with the lightsaber. This is going to be I we need to but we need a follow up. Yes. I need a follow up. You know what sounds to me like. So sometimes guys we've set such a low expectation for ourselves that we can kind of turn into sometimes. So it might be a situation where he's like we're going to go out to a nice dinner. We're going to go out to Star Wars because I know you love Star Wars but he knows in your head that you don't love Star Wars and you think
Starting point is 01:34:22 he's dumb enough to actually think that that's a great night and then he's just going to surprise you with the engagement and Star Wars isn't even on the plate. OK. Alternatively there's definitely a chance he really is just that dumb. Of course. And this all becomes just Star Wars night and you guys are going to break up. I love this. I love the like I need an update. So please please update us. That's fantastic. This guy is totally going to fuck up and just be like what we I was proposed. We've only been dating two years. Hi PMT guys especially all of you. So my husband and I are both big listeners and I just want to say that even though it was kind of a gag on the show you never know where motivation will come from because my husband
Starting point is 01:35:03 was 230 pounds in January is 180 today. Hell yeah. 2019 comes to a close. Hashtag year of the core. Very cool. Whoa. We actually had someone who did year of the core. That's what he said. I know it's kind of a gag on the show but you never know what motivation will come from. Yeah. Year of the core. So if you said it so many times today was ingrained in his head and he's so many times. 2020 tune in. I will be unveiling what 2020 is. I don't know yet. I already know what I'm doing for 2020. OK. I'm going to say I'm going to get a six pack and I'm not going to get one. OK. Well I'm going to I'm going to have a I'm going to have a hashtag. We'll do a hashtag. Again. I don't I don't really know. I might unveil it at the end of 2020.
Starting point is 01:35:42 You know what. It's going to be the year of the quad for me. There you go. I'm just going to go on quads. Thighs are getting huge. You probably hit the whole harder. You'll be able to tackle me real easy. I don't understand. Give me your best shot. Hey slim cat these gnats and cheating beard Hank. I cheating beard Hank. I don't know what that means. Cheating. You got a beard that makes you know something. Maybe my beard is cheating because it makes me so attractive. Wait. Did you cheat on something. Oh cheating beard Hank isn't it covers your chin. Yeah I think well at one point you're like oh it's cheating that you have beard. I don't know. OK. My fiance has his bachelor party this weekend
Starting point is 01:36:17 and won't tell me what he's doing after dinner Saturday night. I think he's going to a strip club. Oh which I am not OK with. Oh is it OK for me. Is it OK for me. Is it OK for me to creep on his iPhone location to see if going to a strip club. Yeah we're going to boo you. Listen I'm not a strip club guy. Everyone knows everyone has a strip club friend. Everyone has a strip club friend. The guy who's you'll have a random Friday night and it will be like nine o'clock but strip club guys won't go to strip club. I've never been that guy. I've probably been to like two strip clubs in the last five years boo. No you can't be you can't be location tracking him on his bachelor party. So that's insane. Here's he really fucked
Starting point is 01:37:06 us up though. I'm going to blame him for this situation because he's going to start because what he should do is have an excuse ready. That's that's day one stuff is like you say we're going to it. What do you say though. You can say we're going to a club. Boom. Going to a club. People might strip it. Done. And then oops my phone ran out of battery so my location sharing is off. You got to have you have to be ready to give an explanation before you ask that question. I think it's not on you for asking location sharing comes up. You should always try and get out of that. Yeah. It would never be something that it's like like that's just that's what you're setting yourself up for a disaster. I've shared location but that's crazy
Starting point is 01:37:42 on all the time. What's the point. That's crazy. Relations are built on trust dude. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. You don't need location service. Oh no. George W. Bush said that and we found those fucking WMD. This literally is a situation where I don't even know if you should get married. If you can't trust him for one night. Yeah. To go to a strip club. I've been way too drunk. I do blame him though for putting himself in this situation. Yeah for getting location verified. You should just say like I have a plan in place for my night when she asked me what I did on my own bachelor party. Yes. That's day one stuff. So it's not your fault for being mad at him if he goes to a strip club when you told him not to.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Just let him go. Yeah you should let him go. Nothing really happens. But if you're not okay with it. Just nothing. You shouldn't go. Yeah. Hi big cat PFT and hunky hank. My husband and I just recently had our first kid. It's chunky. Every time I go to breastfeed our son my husband always says let daddy get a titty too. Guy humor. I tell him to stop and that it's weird for him to say that stuff but he just makes jokes. I like that. The worst one yet was when he said I just want to pony up on a boob and drink with my little Eskimo bro. Yes. They are Eskimo bro. Wait wait. So his son or I guess they both both in and out of the vagina. So nobody's born a virgin. Yeah. And you shame him. So he'll stop this madness. No. I think that's guy humor. Keeping
Starting point is 01:39:07 it light. It's very stressful to have a newborn. So you got to keep it light in the house. So keep going. Or shut him up and give him a tit. Have you had a taste. No. Hell no. Really. I don't. I've drank breast milk before. Hank has to. He drank his aunt's breath smoke. Wait. All right. I'll say sorry one quick time and then we'll get out. What. This is old school. No. No. That's the end of the show. I love you guys. This is old school. I'll explain. We were at a Cape House. I was on a family trip. My whole family was there. I had just my cousin had just been born. My girl cousin. And. Thanks for clarifying. I guess it doesn't really matter. But. Only girl. Only chicks drink breast milk. I was going. So I was at. I was at. I was at a fucking Cape House.
Starting point is 01:39:50 It wasn't my own personal refrigerator. I wasn't as familiar with it. And I made a bowl of cereal and I opened the fridge and there was like a container. It wasn't a milk. It was just like a Tupperware type. Yeah. Teen container thing with milk in it. So I took it ported my cereal and then I ate it. It was like that was disgusting. I think that milk is bad. And my dad was like what milk. That was not milk milk. So yes I had a bowl of cereal from my aunt's breast milk. That wasn't the milk. We've got a. We've got a bowl outside. All right. Have a Cal. You remember that from Kingpin. Yeah. You drank semen by mistake. That's another classic gag. We'll send it here. But that was. Yeah. Hank drank his aunt's breast milk. That happened. It's full
Starting point is 01:40:31 of nutrition though. In fact now I'm just thinking out loud. Protein should have traces of breast milk in it. Hank's aunt's breast milk. Hank's aunt's breast milk in it. And if you. I guarantee if we just talk about how nutrition. Nutrises. Oh. It'll be the next thing. Absolutely. Love you guys. Yeah. Yeah.

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