Pardon My Take - Jeff Fisher + Live from Atlanta for SB 53

Episode Date: January 28, 2019

We've arrived in Atlanta for Super Bowl Week. Recapping our road trip from NYC, barely surviving a few different moments and stops in Blacksburg and Nashville (2:27 - 6:17) . The Pro Bowl is broken (6:17 - 11:32). Who's back of the week including our first ever sponge bob review (11:32 - 22:16) . Coach Jeff Fisher joins the show for an extended interview about his career, the narrative about his coaching, the music city miracle almost not working, and the time a bear attacked him (22:16  - 82:28). Segments include PR 101 Jon Gruden, Respect The Biz us for being so biased we're unbiased, stay woke, and a Monday reading that gets very creepy.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we are live from Atlanta. We have finally made it. Thank you to bus driver Larry. We have safely arrived in Atlanta for Super Bowl Week for the Super Bowl. Can I just give you a real quick tip?

Yeah. The locals call it Hot Lana. Hot Lana. So we want to say that as much as possible. And we have a huge show for you. Yes, we have been silently keeping this guest from you. We actually interviewed him two weeks ago, but we are so excited. We want to save the surprise.

It is Coach Jeff Fisher extended interview. We sat down with him for like an hour. It was awesome. He came to the office. I think we're best friends with him. It was great time. I also had to like softly tell him that I was probably part of the reason why some of those jokes started online, but I don't think he was mad at me, right?

No, he was cool. He was fine with the dog. The whole airport. Yeah. I mean, he was cool. He was cool guy and it was a lot of fun. So get excited for that. We also have a Monday reading for you and who's back the week before we get to all that.

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Let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by our brand new YouTube page where we actually have a bunch of videos. Go subscribe, you can watch PFT make a jailhouse burrito on the YouTube page on the trip down to Atlanta. Today is Monday, January 28th, and boys, we have arrived. We are here. It is Super Bowl week, one of the greatest weeks of the year.

We have coach Jeff Fisher on. How are we feeling? We're out of the piss infested RV for now. Listen, I kind of like the smell of our own piss because it's like, you know, you you mark your territory that way. So there's no mistaking when Garth Brooks gets back on his tour bus that we borrowed from him. He's going to be like, this doesn't belong to me anymore.

So last we spoke, it was Thursday night. We were driving through Virginia. Since then, we went and saw Coach Buzz Williams video to come. We went to Nashville. We go carded. We met a bunch of awesome fans at the Ainsworth. Thank you for everyone coming out. Then we drove down to Atlanta and somehow survived and now we are here.

Yeah. We also ate so much barbecue that I had a little casual in the middle of the night. Wakey up throw. Oh, that was nice. I blame it on the barbecue and not the 12 by the lights that I drank, but it was like, I think it was the barbecue, but I'm choosing to spin it because it was such delicious food. I think it was my body just getting rid of it so I could have more. Yes.

Absolutely. So it's been it's been a fun trip. It's almost been like a mini bachelor party. I don't even know. It was doing the go-karts. We're all a little bit older, but it was one of those things like, hey, man, this is pretty fun. You do a go-kart nicely like go-kart afternoon and it takes you right back to being eight

years old at Chuck E. Cheese. Right. We're all the same. We're just kids. Played some darts. Met Mason Ramsey. Yeah. Which might come out soon, hopefully this week.

That was a fun interview. So overall, I'd say good trip. We want to do highlights. Anyone got a highlight from the last three days on the road? My highlight was companion ship. Okay. Actually, not to brag, my highlight was just looking good all the time. Yeah.

Rocking the suits. You're having a good look. I'm telling you, you don't look comfortable. I'm not. But you know what? I'm just going to keep saying I think I'm a suit guy now and eventually I might believe it. Maybe this will last.

Yeah, that's not true. I'm wearing nice shoes from Wolfen Shepherd. These are six shoes. My highlight was dominating everyone in Madden. No big deal. And having access to the concierge lounge at the hotel we stayed at, which was pretty sweet. That sounds really nice.

Did you go up there? I was too busy out at Kid Rock's bar. It was pretty nice. My highlight was winning go-karting, but then Big Cat tried to tell me I came in second and I had to go and check the sheet myself to confirm. Actually striked at. My highlight was the Pro Bowl. I love the Pro Bowl.

Okay, so let's talk about the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl stinks. I think it's reached the point where it stinks so bad that it's more fun to joke about the Pro Bowl. But they have now gone to the point where they truly whistle before anyone hits the ground. Before there's contact sometimes. It's just wrap up. Yeah, if there's two guys around, it's wrap up.

The only thing that was normal in the Pro Bowl that looked like real football was Patrick Mahomes being awesome and Dak Prescott being terrible. Those are the only two things where it was like, oh yeah, this is football. And Jason Witton blowing a call. Yes. Where Eric E. Braun kind of touched down. It was like, that was Patrick Mahomes' favorite target all year. And Jason Witton also had a little snafu, correct?

I mean, it wouldn't be Jason Witton without finishing off the year in a nice fashion. It was perfect. Well, first of all, let me just say the broadcast crew, they were keeping it nice and casual too, because it's the Pro Bowl. They're rocking their suits with no ties. Nice. So you know, it was just like a nice chill afternoon with the boys. You're just hanging out.

Yeah, right. Like the 19th hole. We're not bankers anymore, guys. Yeah. Fun dad, just trying to have a little Friday. First of all, it was a disgrace that they didn't give the MVP to Anthony Sherman, the fullback from the Chiefs. They were trying to give it to him at the end.

I know. They were definitely trying to give it to him. They gave it to Patrick Mahomes, and when Witton presented the trophy, he broke it. He like picked it up and it came apart in half. And then he tried to just like put it back down and it fell apart again. Patrick Mahomes had to fix it for it. It looked so miserable, especially with the rain, and they really need to bring the Pro Bowl back to Hawaii.

Yes. There's just something about it. When you get everyone in, you know, you know, you get the the Maui surf and people wearing Hawaiian shirts. I think it's getting laid and it's just something about the Hawaii Stadium. It just brings out Pro Bowl fun. Okay. When we're all over, we're going to let you down easily.

When you're in shitty Orlando with like a driving rain, that looked miserable. Yeah, it was bad. And I also missed the Hawaiian church on coaches. Yeah. That was fun. I missed like the subtle Hawaiian prints of the Pro Bowl jerseys. Those were always a good time. Right.

Some people doing the the what do you call it? The hula. Hula. Yeah, the hula. There you go. I just actually had a theory about Jason Witton. He probably thought that trophy was a magnet and he was like, this will destroy me if I don't break it immediately.

I better break it now. Yes. Yeah. I'm getting off of my head right now. So I think the Pro Bowl is broken, but I really don't care. Yeah. That's kind of where we stand. Listen, we've reached a point where we don't care, but I mean, it's still football.

The Pro Bowl meant something when we were kids. Yeah. This might just me be like, I'm not trying to be old man yelling a cloud, but it felt like it meant something. Right. Have you gotten too good for the Pro Bowl? That's sad. The Pro Bowl has gotten, I had a standard for the Pro Bowl all my life and now the Pro

Bowl does not meet that standard. Running clock is bullshit. Counterpoint. Take away the running clock. The standard is a standard. And true. I'll say this. When they were blowing the whistle before anyone touched the running back, like it was a proximity

mine where if you got close enough to the defender, it was terrible. I think didn't Juju get hurt? He might have. I think he got hurt. Yeah. That's how I know it's football. Put a nice top at the end of the Pittsburgh season. Perfect.

They should have, they should have sent taste, taste some hills to the Pro Bowl because he would have just gone balls out the intelligent. Oh yeah. There always needs to be like one asshole trying way, way, way too hard. Yes. Just lighting people up. Yes. I think the Pro Bowl is broken, whatever, right?

I mean, they also put it at three o'clock. You know it's broken when they put it that early to try to be like, we don't want to really get in anyone's mind here. Like let's just get the Pro Bowl. Let's get it out of the way and move on. Well, they didn't want to go up against the Royal Rumble. True. Which we have actually bet on.

Yes. It's going on right now. So it's giving me anxiety. All right. We, before we get to who's back of the week, we missed one crucial, crucial Super Bowl storyline. Last up today, it's going to happen for the rest of the week, TSA lines for journalists. Yes. So the government shutdown, apparently like what, who do they have working TSA?

Listen, I'm all for the government shutdown. Pretty sure the government is back on. It is. It is. Oh, we're back? Yeah. Oh fuck, I missed that memo. I'm okay with having.

You could just turn it on and off and I would never know. Security lines if it means that Peter King is like stuck in traffic and can't make it to the table. But I saw some very complaining each week today. We were about to be the only journalists at the Super Bowl, right? Because we drove down here. We had like John Madden, bus driver Larry taking us down and thank God we survived. Yeah.

Just say thank God. Well, Larry's a good guy. He's a great guy. Notice we didn't say he's a great human being. He's a great human being. We'll have him back on the show on Friday. Yes. I miss Larry.

We were, when you spend that much time with someone in close quarters, you kind of just, you feel, you get the rhythm. A room mentality. Yeah. Honestly, it made me appreciate you more as a driver, two big guys. Thanks. You're not that bad. Thank you.

We had a lot of rumble strips. There was a lot of rumble strips. There were slightly fewer rumble strips than these. I also went fully airborne at one point while I was sleeping in the back of the bus. That's okay. That was a little scary. And here was another fun thing when we might've smoked a little this morning and then when you guys were playing Madden, I was, I fell asleep and I heard everyone yelling, ball,

ball for a fumble. And I thought something was in the road that we were going to run over and I woke up so scared. I was like, oh my God, what are we about to hit? And I was like, oh yeah, they're playing Madden and they're just getting a little excited about it. The other part of Larry was when he just, he opened up the door that separates the driver from the rest of the bus.

Yeah. And he just turns around and he yells, brace for impact. And everyone just looked at each other and Larry goes, gotcha. Gotcha. Great joke. That was a good joke. He also bought a CB radio and I tried to get on it and he called me a narcan that they all knew that I wasn't a real trucker because I kept on being like, breaker breaker.

This is big cat. I was coming in. I wanted that CB to work so I could get into some debates with truck drivers about MJ and LeBron. Yeah. It would have been good. He said they were, they were right for it. All right.

Let's get to who's back. Hank, why don't you give us, get us going here. My who's back. This is one of my favorite parts of like Superbowl every year is just the random celebrities that are from Atlanta that will just pop up just because it's in Atlanta. Yes. So like you'll have like the big boys, the random rappers from like the nineties, just random actors, anyone that's ever had any involvement with Atlanta whatsoever will be

back for this. Yeah. Ludacris is going to be everywhere. Like I saw a big boy on the Today Show just for whatever he was doing it, doing it up. Roger boy. A lot of consoles getting sold this week. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Moving to product. Big time. Big time. Well, he moved out of Atlanta. Oh, he did. He got robbed and had to, he shot someone. Oh. He shot someone?

Allegedly. You want to toss the A word in there? No, no, it's confirmed. He shot someone. Yeah. So someone, someone broke into his house to try and rob him and he shot them in self-defense and then the next day he moved to LA and never came back. So is that legally clear?

Yeah. Yeah. Self-defense. Just get out of here. State lines. Yeah. So, but like if you, if you shoot someone and you're just like, I'm out, like I give up my, I give up my property in Atlanta.

You can't be tried. That's true. Okay. Yeah. All right. Is that it? You just had the one? Just random celebrities popping up?

Infoscores is back too. Oh, nice. Should they check the YouTube? Check the YouTube channel? Yeah. Subscribe. Hank is the master at turning my attack right back against me using a compliment. Good job, Hank.

It was one attack. That was an attack. Yeah, it was. Good job, Hank. That's it though. That's it. Okay. You want to attack him again?

Yeah. Do I want to attack Hank? Yeah. No, no, he defended it so well. I'm intimidated. It worked. My first who's back of the week is Billy McFarland, the organizer of the Fire Fest. We discussed him at Lent with Ryan Russell last week.

And so it turns out the prison that he's going to is the same prison that the situation is locked up in right now. Oh, shit. So the schemes, those two are going to cook up together. The greatest reality TV show ever is coming out of that. They're going to come out of there with like 18 business ideas, 19 of which are fraud. Just give me the like, they move out and then they move into a halfway house together. Yeah.

BH1. Yes, absolutely. That's it. They could sell that. But knowing Billy, he's probably not going to be content just to sell a reality show. They're going to have like a scheme, a new product. Poor situation. They're going to be like the cut code for CBD.

Poor situation doesn't. He feels like he's going to go back to jail because he's going to Billy McFarland will just use his name to sell more tickets. Frank Tribble. Yes. You can really see them getting into the CBD business where they just market it by showing up drunk at your house. Oh, so you're admitting CBD is kind of not real?

No, I like CBD. I enjoy it. I use my back, my back massage CBD stuff. It's awesome. Yeah. No, I enjoy it. I'm just saying it seems like an industry they would find themselves in. This is right for the picking.

Yeah. They just show up all over at your house and then take CBD and pass out and be like, see it works. Sugar pills. Yes. Yeah. My other who's back of the week is USA Rugby. Oh.

So the USA. You finished first? The USA 7's Rugby tournament in the. In New Zealand. Can you let me finish? I'm going to get there. I'm going to get there. The USA 7's Rugby team shout out to Danny Barrett, Massen Hughes, recurring guest, a

part of my take. We finished first. They competed in the New Zealand leg of the World Series. Okay. And you know what? We finished. We finished in first. Second place.

Oh. But. So close yet again. First of all, we had to travel as far east as you can go. That's like the Chargers going to Foxborough times 10. Okay. Flying all the way to New Zealand. And one of all, we are still in first place overall.

Nice. So we're going to second place everyone to death. Yes. If the Buffalo Bills had had the NFL under the rugby scoring system, they would have won two Super Bowls in the early 90s. Nice. All right. So we're back.

Yes. We are back. USA Rugby is back. And also three who's backs Buffalo Wild Wings. Oh. Because they are doing a deal where if. So they're just free promo. Well, no, this is not an ad.

I'm just saying as a personal fan of Buffalo Wild Wings, I'm here to tell you that the Super Bowl goes to overtime. They're giving away free Wings in America on February 18th between the hours of four and seven. Well, since we're talking about Super Bowl deals, you can actually get $300 off your ticket to the Super Bowl. Anyone, even if you've used Seekik before, go use Seekik now, take $300 off your Super Bowl ticket.

Love it. That's insane. Yes. Those are two deals right there. All right. Yeah. My who's back. The first is our promises to the award-winning listeners.

Okay. We watched SpongeBob. We watched SpongeBob. We made some memes. I'm still so confused about that show. I asked Hank a million questions and he was like, dude, you're thinking about this way too hard. There really is no point to the show.

But I'm going to say I'm a fan. Yes. Like from my first, I think we watched four or five episodes. It is absolutely absurd and probably not built for 33-year-olds who are about to be 34 this week. That's our birthday week. I don't remember. But I think I'm a SpongeBob fan.

I am definitely a SpongeBob fan. It's very allegorical. Yeah. Like, I was too high to really understand what the allegor is. But stuff was happening. I was like, this means something else and I'll figure it out later. Well, we did watch that episode where Squidward just didn't have an imagination and it was basically like your inner trial, losing, you know, everyone should stop being like Squidward

and start being more like Patrick Starfish. All you need is a box. Yeah. All you need is a box. That's what I always say. Yeah. Give me a box and some lube. I'm good.

Yeah. Also, really high. All right. So, my other who's back, Kairi and LeBron's relationship. So two pieces of pot. If you missed it, LeBron Instagram storied a song called Rewind and said, this is that shit, Kairi Irving. Now I'm going to read you some PFT.

Thank you for asking. That's a great question. I know you're with him now, but soon you will be mine. If I could bring it back, I'll probably press Rewind. Oh, interesting. So LeBron James wanted to go back in time, press that Rewind button and have Kairi on his team. Now, was that Rewind or Rewind?

Just like have another glass. No, it's Rewind. Just get drunk enough. That would be Rishish. That would be Rish Kairi's on his team. That'd be a Rishish double. LeBron has been drinking a lot of wine recently. Have you noticed that?

Oh, yeah. He's back on his bullshit. I don't think you... I don't think you ever got off. No, he didn't. Yeah. He's been sheesh. He's a sheeshaholic.

And also LeBron has asked that Luke Walton be fired. So LeBron is making some moves. That's also, by the way... LeBron's coming to Boston. Have you talked about that? No, I don't think so. But this makes you nervous because, well, first of all... I do wish that happened, though.

LeBron is so extra. He is so extra. The most. Imagine being his teammate and watching him. Imagine being Lonzo Ball and just watching him openly court Kairi Irving. Then imagine being a teammate with Kairi Irving and watching this openly happen and just being like, wait, the guy who's been yelling at us for the last few months is going to go play with LeBron again.

Come on. You know, it'd be perfect if he got Phil Jackson back to LA. I know there's the whole, like, Ginny bust Phil Jackson situation where that probably won't happen, but if Phil Jackson could get LeBron more NBA titles than Michael Jordan got with Phil Jackson, then you have to admit he's the go, right? I think... No, I would not. Popovich would be...

I want to get that rumor going because LeBron always either Popovich or Coach K. But if Coach K finally is able to foy a private institution and everyone sees how much money Coach K has been giving away, not saying it's not Duke's year, it is Duke's year. But then Coach K says, you know what? I'm out. I'm going to go pro, do the old Pete Carroll bounce, and then go coach LeBron and Kairi. I like that. And out in California...

Oh, Hank agrees. If you're listening to Coach K, there's a lot of alternative medicine out in LA. If you know what I'm talking about, if you're back in a little bit of pain, go out, get a medical card. By the way, there are moments when we're on the road where our show becomes real life and none more than last Saturday night when we were in the concierge lounge, which you weren't allowed in. And we went up and asked for some wine, and I said, can I have some of that white sheesh?

And I was like, that's not what the word is. They don't get it. Yeah, they don't get it. I was allowed in the concierge. I just chose to do other things with my night and be more constructive like seeing Karaoke with Kid Rock. It was nice. It was nice.

All right, let's get to our interview. The long awaited interview with Coach Jeff Fisher. It's a very fun one. Before we do that, the Cash App, you got to download it. Everyone knows Cash App is one of our favorite sponsors, one of our best sponsors. The Cash App, go download it now and get the cash card with all these different boosts. It is the debit card with boosts, a money saving feature you can't get anywhere else because Cash App invented it.

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It is Coach Jeff Fisher, long time coming, long time coming for you to be on Pardon My Take. That's big company now. You talk about most ever. Yes. You've had some great people. But you're up there. I'm a fan, believe me.

I know what you're doing. Okay. I'm not just one of those coaches that's right off in the sunset, doesn't keep an eye on what's going on out there. So you've got this. Hell yeah. I know what you guys are doing. Yeah.

So that's good company. Thanks for the compliment. All right. So then let's start with that because you keep an eye on it. Now, I have to admit that the eight and eight, seven and nine jokes that get made on Twitter, I probably was part of the creation of that and I want to apologize to you. Well, that's okay. We'll talk after we're done.

Okay. Perfect. But I also am part of the solution because I'm also making the videos that is trying to hype you up to get you a new job. Well, I appreciate it. I'm, you know, it, it, you know, it happens in this league now. I'm telling you and, and, but it's okay. I'm, I'm, you know, we'll get into it, but I'm in a really good place, man.

I've had blast, you know, the last couple of years and, you know, I hadn't had a fall off in 30 years, you know, and I didn't know what my cabin in Montana looked like in September, you know, and so I got an opportunity to do that. But you know, you can only take so many trips to Alaska or Argentina or only can fish so many rivers, so many times or get chased by moose or bears and stuff like that. So I'm good with coaching again. You do look good. Yeah.

Whatever like the male version of a cougar is, that's what you are right now. You're a flash. Oh boy. Yeah. We have like a separate link where you can take pictures and we'll put, we call it your smokehouse girls. Yeah. Yeah.

Smokehouse girls all week. Yeah. Okay. But no, it, I mean, the story that our friend Charlotte wrote about you, she went down to Nashville and you guys spoke and it's clear that you do want to get back into coaching and I actually wanted to start with the whole eight and eight, seven and nine stuff, not only where it started from, but have you followed it? And it seems like you almost get, like you have just, you have almost top 10 wins all

time as well. But for some reason, the Jeff Fisher joke has gotten to a point where it's like everything that you did positive has you and John Gruden have basically the same exact record. Right. Well, that's the difference. Yeah. And I came in yard short and, but that's part of the business. I chose to get in this years and years ago.

So I'm, I don't want to say I'm at the mercy of it, but I made the choice and so whatever happens in the business, you choose, you know, the one to choose to get in is going to be, you know, it's going to face the consequences and also benefit from the, you know, the good times. But, you know, if you want me to comment on that, I was a head coach for almost 20 years. So do the math. If I go 10 and six for 20 years, how many losses is that? It's a lot of losses.

It's a lot of losses. That's how you, you explain that. And then, you know, and again, I won't, I never want to come off complaining about it because I always speak truth, but I also coached two teams and five different cities in six different stages. Yep. No one else had to relocate. So yeah, let's talk about that because that is two teams that relocated Houston to Tennessee

and St. Louis to LA. What happens when you find out that your team that you coach is being relocated and you basically have to send that message to the players and get them to stay focused on football? Well, two different circumstances. One was the Houston move, which, you know, it was discussed. It was broadcast announced and then we stayed in Houston. So we were in Houston 95-96, if you recall. So we didn't go to Nashville until 97 and we became the Tennessee Oilers.

Chris Berman called us, you all cut the Tennessee tuxedos and, you know, so it wasn't until 99 until we got our stadium. We got our, we became the Titans and we went to Super Bowl. So, you know, there was a, there's a, you know, I could write books on this stuff that went on back then, but it's not an easy thing to do, but if you look at it from the glass half full versus half empty, eight and eight out of those circumstances is probably pretty good as you're building a team. Playing in Memphis.

Yeah. Well, Memphis, yeah. Vanderbilt and then the new stadium, but staying in Houston without fan support in any place. And so, you know, but we built that team as, as all those things were going on and we built it for a while. We had success on it. So then you, you fast forward to the Rams.

I had a clean that they were, they're going to be relocating. I mean, anybody knows anything about the stadium issues and things like that, especially when I came in and I, I still do this day at Dorstan Cronkey. I mean, he's one of my favorite all time guys and, and I understand the business and as he understands the business, but I had a sense that they were going to be picking up and leaving. So I knew what, what I was facing and I think they also knew that I had done it before, had the comfort of knowing that I could help to get them out there. But, you know, those, the move from St. Louis to LA itself wasn't easy, but that's still

no excuse. You're still expected to win. You know, I can, I can argue and debate and take both sides of the social media perspective or, or positions and, and I've done so many times, but it's not easy anytime you pick up and move. And, you know, as I mentioned to Shar, we had a couple of weeks ago, you know, coach Gruden doesn't have any idea what he's, he's about ready to go through because you pick up something today, you probably guys talked about it, but they don't know where they're

going to play in 19 right now. And guess what? The preseason is eight, eight months away and they don't know where they're going to play. So here's a, there's the first distraction I think associated with their move. Yeah. Now, is that something that you would be willing to help the Raiders with as like the move consultant? You know, I joked around with John, I knew John, our buddies, you know, I don't know, you guys knew this, but we, John, I did a USO tour to Iraq and, and I went with John and

Bill Cower, John Harbaugh and Tom Coughlin. How's that? It's like the most football guy, the most football guy room I've ever heard. How's that for a crew? What was the bathroom like there? Things probably destroyed. It was 125 degrees outside, so it was hot in the bathroom, so, so, but it was such a cool trip and we had, you know, we had 10 days, we had five days or six days over there

in the Persian Gulf and Baghdad and, you know, we had a blast and, you know, that's a whole another segment, but, but yeah, John, I've been friends since and so I knew he was going to, he was going to get it before I got it and I told him, I said, hey, it's not going to be easy. And it was so far off in the distance in his mind, but as it becomes a reality, it's not as easy as you think. Right. Now, Vegas is not a long move and there's always the fan support there and the writers

travel really well with their fans, so, you know, I wish the best for him. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff I think that people don't really consider that goes into those types of things. And I gathered from the article that it's kind of a buck stops here situation with you. What are the go-to, you're like the point guy for everybody who's making a move with all their like logistical issues. Yeah, it is, but, you know, look, that's still not an excuse for, you know, for a holding penalty to take you out of field goal range and lose a game.

I mean, it's still not an excuse, but, you know, if you're going to go out and compete, you like to compete on even playing field and, and that and you're, you're already at a deficit. And so, but that's okay. I mean, that's, that's, I endured that and I have no regrets with respect to my Ram experience at all. I mean, I'm a Ram fan. I'm, you know, those guys, we drafted those guys and, you know, I'm happy for those guys and the success that they're having.

It didn't surprise me. Yeah. It didn't surprise me. You know, Donald's a good football player. That's why we drafted him. Yeah. You're the team architect of the Los Angeles Rams. Well, the team's quite different now and it's quite different.

I credit their, the front office for bringing players in. We didn't have the players that the skilled positions that, that they have now and, and you know, the thing is, is Charlotte and I talked to you guys know, I mean, I took that job because of the stand and we had a quarterback, you know, and Stan Bradford was a good quarterback. I mean, that was, you know, the guys that are taking these jobs right now, you know, you guys ranked the jobs that were open. Most people said the Green Bay job because of Aaron Rodgers because they got a quarterback is the most attractive job.

Well, at that time and to come in the 2012 season, uh, that was the best job because of Sam and then two straight years he terraces ACL. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so I want to go backwards here for a second. You got your start in the NFL, 85 bears. You were on the team, injured and then essentially get to watch the entire 85 bear season with Buddy Ryan and you're working for Buddy Ryan.

What was it like learning? I mean, you basically learned from watching, you know, what many people say is the best defensive. Yeah. Yeah. Basically what, you know, I played in, I, I played up to 84 and then 85, I got hurt in training camp. So I had surgery on my ankle, I got hurt up in Platteville and, um, so once the regular

season starts, you go to IR. So I went to IR. It was really funny. We were talking about this the other day. So Buddy comes to me and goes, Hey, you're going to be on a trip this week. Right. And I go, well, um, you know, but Buddy, the McCasky family, they were the, the organization doesn't take it, take injured players on road trips.

You know, okay, I'll talk, I'll take care of it. So I got them saying, no, I got him saying he better come. So anyway, they worked it out. So he wanted me to travel at the time. There were only three defensive coaches on the staff. So Buddy was on the sideline. The other two were up in the box, uh, Dale Hoppin, Jim LaRue. So he only coached on the sideline on defense if you can imagine that now and he's talking

to two upstairs. So I was his eyes, even when I was healthy, I was his eyes, you know, I wasn't very good. He sent me in. He sent me in for a player series and then come back out and then now go show these guys how to do it or, you know, make this or tell Otis to do that or tell Wilbur's guy, you know, it's just like, I'm kind of his assistant on the sideline, plus I would help personnel. I'd help to tell him who was coming to game as far as the opponent was concerned. So yeah, I stood around and I did that the whole year.

So I watched the whole thing and then he, during the Super Bowl, you know, if you remember it, we practiced for the first week in, um, champagne and then we went from champagne down to New Orleans. That's when Jim, you know, the helicopter said all the things about the women, all that stuff. But the last two days left in the practice weeks, Thursday, I think, but he said, I think I'm going to get the Philadelphia Eagle job. I want you to come with me.

And I said, Oh, really? He goes, he said, I never forget this. He said, you and what's your name? I said, Julie goes, yeah, you and Julie get married. I go, yeah, I'm getting married to spring. He goes, you need to tell your fiance to tell you a retirement party because you can't play anymore. I go, I got two years left on the deal.

He goes, I want you to come coach. So he gave me a week, you know, to decide and I actually turned him down because I had started business in Chicago and I wanted to try to play another year. But the other side, the other guy on the other shoulder was telling me, well, you promise yourself if you, if your body started going that direction that, uh, where you might have a difficult time doing things later in life, then you'd walk away. So it was a combination of things. I called him back to the night, the same night I turned him down.

I took the job. And it was, um, I was just going to say it was Bill Cower that broke your leg, right? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I'm just saying like he broke your leg and then kind of forced you into coaching and then you proceeded to take credit for me getting into coaching. My leg was broken. I broke my leg in 83.

I played 84. Okay. I had a little surgery in 85. So yeah. And but, but this is a fun, and I don't know who I told this yesterday too, but we were talking about the Steelers and Bill's name came up and, uh, we had some great battles there, Tennessee and Pittsburgh. And so Bill, we were always joking around.

He would always take credit for me getting into coaches because he broke his leg. And the last thing I would say to the team Saturday night before we played Pittsburgh for three or four years is, Hey guys, remember, and they'll look at me and laugh at me. If you're going off really fast out of control on the Steelers sideline, it's okay to roll up into the head coach's legs. You know, so we said, that was a bounty. I go, no, I didn't put your money on it, but it was so, it was so fun. And yeah, it was great.

And you know, just the, the, the Tennessee, uh, Pittsburgh rivalry and just the, the class, uh, the, uh, organization that they were, the Steelers and, and Mr. Rooney. And I was going through stuff, you know, get later in life. You start downsizing. I found a couple of letters from Dan Rooney, you know, just that was a great thing. Great game, Jeff. Very well coached and can't wait to compete against you next year. And so we had some, yeah, we had some great battles.

You kicked their ass a few times. Yeah. Did you say our ass? You kicked their ass. Oh, I thought you said that. No, you kicked their ass. No. Yeah, we did.

Yeah. We won. We, you know, the big one was the, the divisional win in Nashville and overtime. Yeah. All right. We had a Nedney kick, good fireworks go off and then not so fast bill ice. He called time out. So the next kick Nedney misses, but he's roughed.

So the next kick he makes those took us three kicks and overtime to get it done. But yeah, we got it done. Were you in that famous, uh, buddy Ryan meeting when he told the team? Yes. He was going to sit in the back. Like maybe it was all true. Yeah. It was all tell the story of how he told, but he is unbelievable every start of night

for the game. Now, you know, this is the whole time now he's been with Mike now for this is fourth year with Mike. So, you know, sometimes, you know, Mike would talk to a team first and we go offense and defense. And so then buddy would pull the door shut, we go into defense room and he just shake his head like, I got to know what he's talking about. We're going to win this on defense, but Mike had a great visit with the team that the night

before the games. Well, and then the door shut, we went or went into another room and I was sitting in the back and buddy ordinarily we're getting from the team and he'll go through adjustments and he'll rip your ass, you know, and, and it was just kind of, it was a fun meeting He always handed out a little letter at that time and, and talked about some things and buddy stood up there and tried talking, he couldn't and then he started getting choked up and, and the only thing he said, you're going to have to believe this. He said, regardless of what happens tomorrow, guys, you'll always be my effing heroes.

You can cuss. Yeah. You'll always be my fucking heroes. He said, you'll always be my fucking heroes and he choked up, teared up and turned it and walked out. And so there was, it seemed like minutes of silence, but it was merely 10 seconds maybe and Mick Michael grabbed the projector and threw it through the chalkboard and then the screen went down and it might have been Gary, I don't remember because whoever said something

goes, we're done. You know, and I thought for a moment, the guys were getting out just storming out because they're processing what buddy had said. I think it occurred to them, but I thought, Oh my gosh, I don't want to be in New England tomorrow because of these dudes in this room are freaking ready. Right. What was the biggest thing you learned, uh, you know, from buddy in your time with the Eagles and like the thing that you took from what you learned from him to your head coaching

job? So much of it, you know, I owe so much to, but end of mic, I mean, Mike gave me a chance to play for him for a few years and, and the whole McCasky family, but, um, you know, the buddy thing, being with buddy for five there, you learn a lot and I tell people oftentimes I learned probably more of how not to do things being around buddy than you do from a standpoint of how to do things. I mean, our first, we've been there for two months and, and we're at book binders in Philadelphia having a staff dinner and the owners there, Mr. Braem and their Norman Braem

is there and buddies cuss him and thumping him in the chest, telling him not to mess with his football team. That's not, that's not one of the things that you want to do, you know, if you get a chance to be a head coach. So there were a lot of things, little personnel, things and stuff and, you know, you know, buddy just, he just absolutely despised the thought of another team stepping on the field because there was a labor dispute. So when we had the, it was, it would have been the 87 strike and the lockout and then

we brought the guys in and it was a nightmare. Buddy wouldn't have anything to do with it. He didn't talk to the team. We all had to do it ourselves because it was, and it was a, you know, buddy from buddy's perspective, his team was out on the streets on the other side of the curb. This is not my team. And all that did was it made the players become more engaged in more behind buddy because he was supporting them.

Yeah. I can see that. Were the Ryan boys hanging around? Yeah. Yeah. They hung around. Yeah. They were there at Westchester University.

Yeah. I bet this might be a dumb question. Which was the wild or the two? They were, I said they're pretty much even. Yeah. Yeah. I can't tell you Ryan twin stories. Oh, okay.

We've had Rob on the show. Yeah. Rob's a great guy. He almost actually just quit his job at Buffalo and like hung out with us on our RV when we went up there. I love those guys. You know, yeah, I do. I love Rex and Rob and, you know, just, just growing up, you know, watching them grow up.

I don't want to age myself, but it just was really cool watching them move up. I mean, one, they were both, I think they were both each other at the same time coaching at directional schools in Oklahoma, you know, and then all of a sudden one end of a Tennessee state and then one moved here. The next thing you know, he's got them in the league and then they really took off and ran. Which one was the more talented of the two football wise? They both, you could, well, with respect to identical twins, if you didn't know the

difference, you'd have a hard time deciding who was who based on their football knowledge, but their pincers are somewhat different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can you tell me stories about like hypothetical twins that were the sons of the coach of Philadelphia Eagles? Like if we're just, you know, making up a story.

Yeah. Like if, okay, after camp, when a player's night out, when buddy told the whole team, you know, how are you going to get the night off, don't embarrass the organization, don't get your ass thrown in jail. Yeah. Things like that. Yeah. Yeah.

Where the players don't go to jail. Yeah. The players went to jail. No, no. So next topic. Sons, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. So onto Houston and Tennessee. I, Steve McNair is one of those guys that I think if you are a little younger and you didn't watch football in the late nineties, early oz, you don't realize how special he was. When you drafted him, did you know that you were going to get a guy like that? Or is that, I mean, because he was something special, he was something the league kind of hadn't seen.

Yeah. The thing about Steve was that he played from a, in a conventional offense the year before his junior year, actually. So you saw him under center, you saw him do the things and, you know, we did the interview, we did the private workout, we did the pro day, we did all those kinds of things. So yeah, there was no doubt that, that he was going to be that guy. Now, you know, keep this in mind, you know, I was the head coach at the time. So I'm a new head coach.

Really, I've only been coaching a few years. I really wasn't into, with exception of preparing a game plan for defense and looking at the quarterback, I didn't compare quarterbacks. I, it wasn't a quarterback evaluate. I wasn't the quarterback guy. And so, you know, after, that's the first time I got into it and looked at the quarterbacks and this guy was special, the things he did. And we knew that.

Now, we also knew that we were going to take our time with him. And so we had a plan and we went out and we hired Jerry Rome and then we brought Chris Chandler in to back up. So Steve could back up and learn. He didn't have to play. So we got Steve, all the experience we possibly could over a couple of years, you know, you get him preseason games, he goes in the game when you're behind, he goes in the game when you're ahead, he goes in and gets a start when Chris is hurt.

So he was ready. And then, you know, we started him in the 97 season, I think. So yeah, he was, you know, and it was even 98, maybe early 99, you know, hey coach, is Steve a top five or top 10 quarterback in the league? I don't know. I can't answer that, but I'll tell you, he's a top three football player in the league at this point. And you know, he was, he was amazing.

The things that I could share with you or, you know, just, just they're endless. And, you know, I miss him. You know, I was actually on the, on the runway in Kuwait at the end of our USO trip with the coaches I shared with you when I got the phone call that Steve, that we lost to you. Yeah. Yeah. I want to talk about that team, the special Titan season where you go to the Super Bowl. So it's incredible because obviously everyone in their mind thinks, you know, one yard short,

but we have to go backwards here for the music city miracle, which is an iconic plan, its own right. What's going through your mind during the music city miracle? And did you guys practice that play? Well, yeah, the history behind it before that year for 10 years or so, what we had on our team that we practice every Saturday was we called the Stanford Cal team. Okay. The Stanford Cal play.

So you get, everybody can handle a football left-handers and right-handers. And then you just kick the ball off and they just try to keep the ball live and push it down the field. And as we go through the course of the season, we would add defenders. So you know, you could score against three guys. And then you buy in the season, you get 10 guys. It's a fun thing. So Alan Lauer, our special teams coach came to me prior to the 9-9 season, he goes, hey,

come look at this tape. He goes, I found this way back this summer on my vacation and it was a play that happened Texas against Texas A&M or somebody back in the 70s. And it was kind of designed that way where the kick went to the one side and then threw back the other and da-da-da. So we actually put it in and yes, we did practice it. But the funny part of the story was, so we practiced it every Saturday. So when, when, when Christian makes the kick and there's a TV timeout, I turned to Alan,

he turns to me. We simultaneously say, home run throwback. Yep. So, okay. Where's Mason? And so Derek Mason was our guy. Okay. He was the deep guy.

He should have been the Kevin Dyson. Okay. Mason has a concussion. Trainer says, coach, he has got a concussion. He's in the next week's on place. I go, okay. Well, then the next guy, the backup was Anthony Dorsett, Jr. Okay.

Anthony Dorsett was cramping up when I called for him. So I grabbed dice and I said, did you pay attention on Saturday home run throwback? He goes, coach, I not, not really didn't pay attention. I said, okay. Hey, all you got to do is stay to this side of the field and make sure you are five yards behind the ball period outside the numbers. That's all you got to do. He goes, I got you coach.

So, you know, the five yard thing turned into five inches. I was going to say, he definitely didn't do that, right? No, but as I got you coach, so, so we didn't work on the kick that, that low caught every kick that we worked every Saturday was a deep left, deep right, hard, squib, but hard, squib to all different guys, but it wasn't a bloop. Yeah. Right. Worked on that random bloop kick.

And so low had the presence of mind to get it and like, I don't want it. Yeah. Got rid of it. Got it to Frank. That's the most fullback move of all time. Yes. Lorenzo Neal gets the ball and he's like, I don't want it. I'd rather block somebody.

Yes. I don't want this right now because I don't know what to do with it, right? Except get it to Frank. So he gets it to Frank and I kind of, I'm standing there watching this thing come, oh, man. And then as soon as he got it to Frank and then I see Kevin kind of on the side, I can see across the field Frank, I'm kind of where Frank is. And I, when Frank throws the ball to Kevin, I can see Byron Boston, okay, the head linesman point backwards.

And I knew that, that he was calling it a ladder on the field. So I saw his hand go backwards. So, okay. And so now I'm kind of hopping down the sideline going, come on, get out of bounds, Kevin, get out of bounds. And I go, oh, shit, no, score, you know, kind of that phrase scored. And so then, you know, the part of the story that's not told is so, you know, it all goes to replay and everything.

The world is a mess. I mean, the stadium is a mess. To this day, you'll find 200,000 people that say they went there and there was only 60,000 people. Right. And I'm doing the math and we're up by five, right, or maybe four, whatever it was, but I got to go for two. Okay.

The most elementary chart in the world, go for two chart says go for two. I didn't think we could execute a play offensively once the ruling came back stays on the field. Right. So I said, what are the odds of this happening again in my mind? I said, screw, we just kicked the extra point. They brought the ball out across midfield in the game. No one talks about that. No, no.

The game wasn't over till it was over for me. Yeah. What would have happened if Dyson had caught it? Did he have the arm to get it? Was he going to throw it to Y check? Yo, yeah. Dyson's getting the ball back across field. He's got the arm to do that.

Oh, yeah. That's hilarious that he just didn't pay attention in the five yards. You know, Dyson's a Utah State kid. I think, no, just if I get it wrong, it was a youth play, Utah or Utah State. And it's just kind of like a cool, what, you know, go, happy, go lucky, California dude, you know, and he's like, yeah, I really didn't pay attention. Coach. That's awesome.

For the biggest play. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. Well, he didn't have time to overthink it. So, Bud Adams was in the elevator. Going down game was over. Wow.

Personally, my father was in the restaurant. Wow. Yeah. He was? Oh, here's a good part. So, I have a, my son was, he was running Polaroids back then on the sidelines. So he's on the sidelines. And so we're all at home in the kitchen, got the little TV in the kitchen going and

everybody's over and we're watching this thing right after the game and I hear him go, hey, look, there I am. There I am. He has planes. He has planes playing over and over and over. And I go, where are you? He goes, right there. And so he's at the bottom of the screen and he's, he's jumping up and down.

You see him like 15, 10, five and he's jumping. He goes in the end zone and he goes, yeah, that's cool. I made TV. I go, hey, what the hell are you doing in the white? And he stops. I go, if you hit that fish, he'll hit you, bumped you in the, you're in the white on the field. None of this happens.

And oh, I felt so bad. He just like got sick. So I go, no, no, no, no, no, it's okay. It'll been sessed on a kickoff. We've been fired. Yeah. The old Mike Toblin special. Yeah, right.

No, he wasn't even close, but so if you look down, that's Brandon, yeah, you know, that's Brandon. Who coached me for five years. So let's go forward to that Super Bowl, which is also an iconic Super Bowl. Also on my birthday, whatever, not to brag. So we have that in common. All right. So that game, one yard short.

The one thing that I think people forget about that game is you guys were down 16, nothing. And that game was basically over. And then there's a video of you yelling at the team in your zip up sweater vest, which was awesome, by the way. Thank you. That was a logo athletic thing that they never, ever paid me to wear. Oh, that was a good look. No, it was one of those deals.

Hey coach, wear our vest and we'll pay you this. Yeah. Yeah. Then they went out of business the next year. Yeah. And so that play, so you're down 16, nothing. You come all the way back. So the play before is the McNair play that is one of the all time plays in the Super

Bowl. That kind of gets lost because of the next play that happens. What goes through your mind after that play and basically like how many times did you watch that play over and over the weeks, months after I didn't, um, I didn't watch it. I mean, you see the last play, but I didn't watch the game for 10 years. Wow. Yeah. So I knew what happened.

I didn't need to. And I didn't until I was going to do a feature story on it. So I need to go back and refresh my memory. And I, I read the play by play first and then went back and watched the game, but we lost our starting free safety, which is a key component of our defense in the championship game. Marcus Robertson down in Jacksonville a week before then we lost Blaine Bishop or other safety.

So we're down to our third and fourth safety. So that was an issue in that there was a result. There was some confusion. We gave up a couple of big plays, but yeah, see what, what I, I felt this strongly felt this at halftime was that we got away from who we were, particularly because we were trying to do what they were doing, which is pick it up and throw it. So we got the message to everybody, the coaches that, Hey, here's what got us here. Here's what we're going to go back to.

And we're going to give this, we're going to turn this thing over to Eddie and Steve and go. So, you know, that happened. So yeah, the Steve play at the end there to escape to, you know, to get the first down, even the scramble around to get the Dyson to make a big first down was huge. And then, you know, it was one of those deals, you know, you know, it was not, I mean, it was hard. It was so close.

I mean, if you look at the play on tape, they dropped Eddie, who was swinging to the left. And then, you know, you guys get excited and, you know, the design was to have Kevin push, you know, a yard or two deeper. And if Kevin pushed a yard or two deeper, then Mike would have at least flipped his hips and been moving up the field and Kevin would have come underneath and it might have been closer. He might have walked in. Don't know, but that's football.

But, you know, the moments, the special moments that you have with your quarterback and your team after that and the memories, keep in mind, and we talked about this, but this is the, this year, Super Bowl here a few weeks away. It's the first time it's been Atlanta since then. And so there's a lot of people wanting to know about the specifics of the last thing. City of Atlanta was awesome. It was just, there was an ice storm and we had one week. So we practice on ice at Georgia Tech on the outside practice, but we didn't have the luxuries

that they're going to have this time around. You know, when it's all said and done and you realize that you're that close, the memories of the things that happened after the moments that I had with Eddie and the moments I had with Steve and for example, Eddie, we leave Atlanta, go back to Nashville Tuesday. We have a big parade and the parade's over. Eddie comes into my office. He goes, I don't want to go to Pro Bowl. Really?

Oh, what's the matter? Eddie, are you losing your mind or no, man, Jeff, I don't want to go to Pro Bowl. I go, Eddie, you were, you were voted by your peers, voted by your coaches, voted by the fans to go to the Pro Bowl. You can go out to Hawaii, it's warmer out there. You can go out there, drink margaritas and my ties at practice. You don't want to go to Pro Bowl. He goes, no, man.

He goes, I want to start on next year right now. You know, and that's what happens when you lose that game and especially that close. Anything to get that taste out of your mouth. They want to start on next year. And that's how Steve was. And it was a, it was a great group of guys. What do you, what do you say to your team after that game in the locker room? What, what can you say?

Um, well, I think you, you do your best to put it in perspective and that, um, you know, this is going to take some time to get over. And, uh, in my, in that particular case, the whole week was a blur. The game was a blur. You, things didn't set in until, you know, weeks after, but as far as the team, there's nothing more that you can say to them other than that was for a tremendous effort and probably one of the best super bulls ever at that, at least at that point. I mean, I got calls from the president and the vice president when about a 30

minute period after game and both of them were hyperventilating. And I was like, with all due respect, sir, we lost, right. You need to be hyperventilating the coach for meal. Yeah. You know, would you have cried like coach for meal? No. Okay. No, yeah.

He's, he was a big crier. He did. He's a good friend and a great, and a great crier. You were to drink one of those doseki. So I got not, yeah, well, no, yeah, I would have. Yeah. So they would not be a doseki's left. So that's all.

So tell the doseki's. Yeah. So yeah, Super Bowl, Super Bowl 20 bears Patriots, New Orleans after the game. Long story, but, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on and Jim was, had all the guys up to his room, said come by the room, he ordered a case of beer in New Orleans up to his room. And I went by there in the morning, check on him because he was Mrs. McMahon, he's going, going the Pro Bowl.

So he's got to get out of his flight. So I went to his room, doors cracked open and it, the room looked like a room where players who had just won the Super Bowl were kind of winding down, if you will. Yeah, yeah. So there was a case of beer in there. And so I, you know, I didn't make a lot of money back then. So I had an extra luggage tag.

So I put one of my luggage tags on the case of beer and took it to my room. And when I got back to the facility the next day, it was there with both my bags. And, and I didn't realize until I got home that it was a case of dose Eches, which at that time nobody realized. But, and that's not why Jim ordered it, but it was symbolic. It was XX Super Bowl 20. So I have about eight bottles left that, that I save that survive moves and, you know, a bottle opener.

And so I, you know, years ago, I decided to save them to pop them when, when I want a Super Bowl, there's a small part of me that thought maybe you're going to bring one bottle for this interview. And then we pop it in celebration. All right. That was a little wishful thinking. Let's get back to the start. We need to divide eight three ways.

If you want, when you win your Super Bowl, I will drink eight dose Eches. Yes. I'll chug them. I'll drink 16. Eight. Okay. Yeah. I'll double it up.

I'll actually drink as many dose Eches as the number of Super Bowl it is. I'll tell you what we'll do, man. We'll get it. We'll get them in cans and we'll just, we'll just shop them. Yeah, man. Line them up. Line them up. I'll find you some 16 ounces.

There you go. Yeah. Give me the pounders. I've always wondered about the, the logo switch when you, when you ditched the Oilers and you became the Titans, you have to admit that the Houston Oilers logo was awesome, right? It was great. Way better than the Titans logo.

Yeah. Did you ever just suggest, hey, maybe we can just stay the Tennessee Oilers? Didn't have, I didn't have anything, and you say in that, that was Mr. Adams and the marketing people, but I still have all the Tennessee Oilers stuff. So I have Houston Oilers, Tennessee Oilers, and then Titans stuff from that. That's pretty cool. Those two years. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, it's cool stuff. Eat some of that on your wall here. Yeah. I will pick it up. All right. I got a couple of fun questions here for you. Um, what happened with the flag in Foxboro when you're trying to find it?

Oh yeah. Um, I went in and I had it in my back pocket and it was, the temperature was dropping and I put an extra pair of pants on and when I took it out of my back pocket and I stuck it in the pocket of a jacket and I got rushed out because of injuries and I didn't put it back in my back pocket of the pants. I had it in the inside pocket of my sweatshirt when I was changing to put the other thing on. So I saw the play and I knew the pass was incomplete.

And so, you know, I'm kind of reaching back and back pocket. I go, oh, where is this flag? And so I'm kind of bullshit with official. I'm kind of going, you know, just stick it over here. Let's see. I was in a back pocket, but I had the jacket on, but I had to switch it on. Maybe I stuck in a sweatshirt. It's not in the jacket.

It's not here. And I go anywhere. I'm really challenging the ruling on the field because it's incomplete. I know it's incomplete because I need to see your flag. I said, just go through it. No, I need to see your flag. All right, I'll find it. Did you know that was going to be like the minute that happened that that was

going to be on the internet right away? No, I really didn't care. I mean, I, you know, I mean, I did had some, we had some other stuff. I mean, the game, okay. So music city miracles over. We go to Indy. Okay. And we're not, we're in a dog fight with the Colts at Indy and they

returned a punt for a touchdown. Okay. And I'm standing on the side. And this is back in the days when the coach had the, he had a buzzer, but as two buttons on the buzzer and you would literally buzz the referee and the, his, his belt would buzz and vibrate. And that meant that you're, you're trying to get him. So, and you had a flag as a backup to the buzzer.

So anyway, uh, Del Greco and Craig Hendrick come to me and go, Jeff, he stepped out of bounds and I go, and I can't get a replay review. And I don't know. And I looked at him and look, I've been to Augusta with these guys and I trusted those two guys and you, the number one rule in replays. You cannot trust a player to tell you, I caught it. Coach, I always caught it. You can't do that.

Yeah. Yeah. So I knew, so I was running down the field, bang, bang, bang, buzzing, buzzing, buzzing. And, um, I forget who the referee was, but, um, I'll think it was named. But anyway, he's not paying attention. So I go running on the field. I call time out. Okay.

So, um, we, the, they review it and sure enough stepped out of bounds. Ball comes all the way back, man, to the 15 yard line instead of touchdown. It was a great challenge, but I, I didn't have, I didn't have the, the flag because the assistant equipment man that was, I believe was terminated the next day, didn't pack it. So that was a little story. So the cool thing was about three days later in Tennessee at the facility, I got, um, you know, the, the red mechanic flats, uh, rags, you know what they, the

mechanic rags is red and stuff. Okay. So I got this and it's framed in glass, uh, and it's got a, uh, uh, hammer attached to it and says, in case of emergency break glass and pull. So I got the, I still had that hanging in my house, but so yeah, there's a lot of storage. So I was just like, dude, yeah, it goes way back. So I didn't know, you know, I mean, yeah, of course, yeah, anything you do on the

sideline and, and I just, so, you know, hey, yeah, we lost people are going to lose to the Patriots. It was the 21 seven games, something like that. And so they asked, I go, yeah, I thought it was hilarious. I mean, it was in there someplace. Yeah. I knew I had it. Did you make any changes to your flag protocol after that?

Like where you kept it? Um, no, I just, no, I didn't know. Belichick keeps it in the sock. Yeah. Oh, I used to keep it in my sock for a few years. Yeah. Yeah. Seems like that'll be a little uncomfortable.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Especially, I mean, I'm a lot faster on the sideline and bill is, so I'd probably lose it. Um, you've been chased by a black bear. Yeah. What happened there? That's not, it's.

Oh yeah. That's just a regular thing. It happens all the time. You know what? I guess the Montana might black bears, black bears with all due respect to different species, black bears, you treat them like dogs and black. No, it's a dog attack. Yeah.

You chase them and they run up to their cowards. They don't like people. This happened to be a female and I was bow hunting and, and the guide, my guide thought it was, uh, was not a female as a male. So I got a little close and she was protecting her cubs. Oh, she chased you? Yeah. So you had to run away?

Yeah. Uh, yeah, I did. I ran up, uh, ran up a hill. My guide had the rifle, right? He took off running. Some guy, I turn and look back and he's running up the hill because she's woofin in the woods and that means I'm coming. So I look at him, heard the woofin.

I just took off running and we had my bow and I, you know, I was in decent shape, but I didn't train running up a muddy hill. Yeah. Bam, I blow my hamster. Plus a little adrenaline thing. If a bear is after you now, were you prepared to like lay down and play dead? Um, in the, in that world, the outdoor world, uh, yeah, you do that. If you're, if the attack is eminent and it's a big bear, a black bear, you're

going to defend yourself. You would have punched the bear. You would have beaten up a black bear. You would defend yourself. You, and that is oftentimes if you study bear attacks, that works. I have, I have not studied bear attacks. Grizzly bears, no, grizzly, no, I would not. I would defend myself and hope it would stop biting me.

That means that you win. I'm okay with getting killed by a bear. Okay. Let's lay on the table. I just don't want, I just don't want, I just don't want him to eat me. Yeah. That's true. That's kind of ironic.

Like you kill me with your history with the bears. And then all the stories go, well, how do you survive a bear attack? Well, you have to run faster than one person. You have to be, you know, push somebody down and run, you know? What about the, what about the cow moose? What is a cow moose? It's a female. Okay.

They have a bull and a cow. And they just went, and that one went after you too? Yeah. This was a smell to you. No, it was wrong place, wrong time. What happened? She left, she came at me about 10 yards of stuff. Yeah.

She had a calf. One look in your eyes and was like, I don't want any part of this. She had a calf with her and she came at me. It was nobody. This is the greatest TV show ever. Jeff Fisher versus Wild Animals. I don't know how this got out. Every day.

Yeah. She saw the mustache and she was like, I'm not fucking with this guy. You're outdoors enough, stuff like that happens. I do my research. What about the fish that got away? What happened then? No, that happens all the time. What other animals have you been attacked by?

None. That's it? Yeah. Only two? Yeah. Oh, man. You know, I would, oh gosh, what a great comeback, but I won't throw it out there. Oh.

Social media? Oh, yeah. Have you considered shaving the stash at any point? No, please don't. No, when it, it was, it was born in 1976. When I graduated high school. Now, if you didn't wipe your mouth after eating fruit loops in the morning, you had milk on the cat, would lick it off, it'd go away.

But yeah, that's where I'm at right now. That's where yours is, yeah. Absolutely. That's why you're, you're grain free, no cereal shit. No, I eat all the grain. I'm nothing but gluten. What was, what was the story behind wearing shirts that were always a little bit long? Shirts.

Yeah, like long sleeve shirts that went down almost to your knees. Did you notice that about you? They weren't, well, I don't know if they were that long ago to my knees, but I always, I had so much after we went to all the stuff, all the headsets, I had to have like three headsets. Right, right. So I just pull a shirt over it and leave it over. Oh, I like that.

I like that. Okay. I've always wanted that. So yeah, you can kind of just like hide the. Yeah. Plus the last couple of years, I probably was a little more insulated than I was with my crew. You have a lot.

How much weight have you lost? About 30. Wow. You have a lot of headsets on the sideline. Every time I see like a shot of an NFL sideline these days, it seems like there are two dozen guys with headsets on. Is that, is that necessary? Why do so many people get headsets?

Well, yeah, you get some of the guys on both sides of staff. I mean, you don't even know how many guys are upstairs. I mean, any given teams probably can have anywhere from three per side to maybe four per side. There may be eight coaches upstairs in addition to all the guys downstairs. So everybody's talking. So your head coach, your head coach has three, basically three buttons. You can go offense or defense or special teams.

And so, but when you saw me pay attention, I was always, yeah, pulling it off. You remember that? Yeah. I only hear in one ear. So I don't have a birth defect. I have a hearing loss, total hearing loss of my right ear. So if I was going to hear someone on a sideline, I had to go like this to talk to them. Yeah.

Pack on. Interesting. What another deep dive? Have you part every hole at Augusta? Ah, duck on it. Yeah. That's fucking unreal. No, it's not.

Yes, it is. The first time I played it, I went, I went to 11 without a bogey. Jesus Christ. I had 10 straight double bogeys. What about you? I got you. There you go. So I have a dear friend that I've been down there enough times.

If you go down there and play it enough, you're going to eventually part every hole. And it, it's not. I don't know if that's the case if I played it enough. Oh yeah. So I've been really lucky to go down there. It's a wonder. It's such a, such a privilege to go play there. I have a dear friend.

So yeah, last time I went down there, I was very fortunate. I took both my boys and, and everybody knew. So the last hole was 16. Okay. That's part three. That's Tigers, Nike ball hole. Yeah. Okay.

So you all know that. You got the visual. And it's for us, for a normal golf, golf, it's an eight iron, maybe a seven iron. You got wind. It's nothing. I could not. As many times I play it and they all knew and the caddies were betting on me and my boys were giving me shit.

And, you know, I didn't, my son got up there and it's a freaking eight iron, 10 feet, misses his putt for birding taps in a, he goes, what's the heart about this? But I got it the afternoon. We played 36. I got the afternoon. Love it. Love it. I want to talk a little bit about what the future holds for Jeff Fisher.

So obviously you want to get back into football. You're doing some stuff with, with the AAF. It's the Alliance. The Alliance for American Football. Yeah. What about NFL stuff? Have, have you received any calls this off season? Um, yes and no.

But from, from decision makers or people that would, would interview, no, I didn't hear from anybody this off season. Some feelers are getting put out there. Yeah. Why, why is that? Why do you think like when we talked about at the start of the show, you know, you have the, almost the 10th most, what is it, the 11th or 12th most wins all times a head coach. You have a lot of losses as well.

Do you think that it's a perception or the way the league's moving in an offensively, you know, direction or maybe the quarterbacks, you know, I know that the whole Nick Foles case, Kenan thing, and you can maybe talk about that. What is it that you think maybe has people saying, I'm not going to call Jeff Fisher? Well, I think it is the fact that, um, a lot of it, this, in the second cycle is, is what happened with the Rams with Sean. And so everybody is trying to duplicate that success or go get that guy, you know, the Sean McVeigh guys.

And I'm happy for Sean. I never wish anything but the best for any coach because I know how hard it is. So I'm really happy for Sean. So there's a lot of that, um, you know, I don't know, it's, um, you know, if you, who, as we speak right now, who, who's left? Stolphins. No, no, no. Oh.

Yeah. Offices. Oh, no, but who is playing in the championship game? So the Saints, the Rams, the Patriots and the Chiefs. Right. So three or four coaches or what been there, done that stability, stability, stability been there, done that. And now you got Sean, who is special.

He earned the right to get into that. So my point is, is that, um, and, and again, it's where the league is and, you know, what I don't like seeing is what happened in Arizona. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Cause coach Wilkes is a good person. Okay.

And he's a good man and he needs to be given more opportunity than what he got. One year. Especially when you go into a roster like that. Yeah. He kind of got fucked over like the, the, um, with the cap situation, everything that they had to do going into that. His roster was gutted. I'm not going to go into detail about who did it, but at some point, you know, the general

manager needs to look himself in the mirror and not, because if you keep blaming the head coaches over and over and over, it's like, I mean, is this New England's eighth consecutive appearance in the championship game? Yeah. You see what that did to the division over the last eight years. They're insane. Three coaches, the Jets are on their third and Miami's now on their fourth, you know, and if they would just settle down and give guys time now, and I don't know where that's

coming from. Is that coming from the fan base? Is it coming from you guys? You know, I, I don't know. But all I know is that, uh, there's experience and, um, uh, and you can, there's no substitute for experience. And so I just wish that some of these young coaches would be given more an opportunity to finish what they started.

And there's so many things that are out of your control. I mean, there's injuries. They're, you know, injuries is the biggest thing. Right. And people forget them all too, they're all too quick to forget the fact that somebody lost some players. The injuries this year were devastated teams. Yeah.

I mean, you saw it did the 49ers, at least there are hopes for the 49ers yet, but those guys can coach because they were competitive. But you know, the injury situation on the offensive line, I, I think at Arizona Cardinals was brutal. Yeah. What are you going to do? Yeah. So, you know, give somebody a chance.

Just the one and done thing is embarrassing to me. And I think it's embarrassing to a lot of people that, um, have come before me in the league. And I don't want to say our forefathers, but this is a rich tradition and history. And, you know, to change a coach every couple of years, you know, that's not history. Yeah. You know, so, but anyway, um, so I guess your question was what's ahead, you know, I right now as we speak, I'm, I'm here, I'm working with Charlie ever saw Charlie's the founder

of the Alliance of American football. I was in San Antonio the last couple of weekends. And as a matter of fact, how about this, I had dinner with the coaches and the GMs. So I sat in a room with dinner with Rip New Heisel and Dennis Erickson and Mike Singletary and Mike Riley and Steve Spurrier and Mike Martz, you know, and that's a good group of guys and a good group of general managers. And I watched some practices and this is going to be an exciting little deal. And the one thing they all have everybody in that league has in common is they're they

love football, right? You know, they just love football. And so, you know, I'm helping, I'm consulting and helping Charlie in a lot of different areas and I'm in here, I'm here in town to do have a broadcast meeting because their season is going to kick off on the weekend after Super Bowl. What about working in a front office for a NFL team? Has that been something you've either explored or talked about? It's something, it's been suggested to me, but you know, I just love coaching.

Yeah. There's a, if a front office exec is doing his job, in my opinion, and of course it's just my opinion, there's some element of separation between the player and the front office because it's a business situation. That's why I never got involved in a negotiation deal with one of my players because I can't, you can't ask a player to take a pay cut, okay, and then ask to play hard for you. You can't. So, to answer your question, I miss the players.

I want to be with the players. So the front office thing, yeah, I could draft and I could study and I could do that and I've been enough of them and, but I just don't have any interest. What about defensive corner? I just want you back in the NFL. I just want you back on the sideline. You know, I don't know. I'm in, I'm asked that as well.

I just, you know, it's, it's a challenge. I would rather spend my time helping players because that's where the rewards come from. And I, you know, people have heard me say this before and you can, you can process the numbers however you want. But, you know, when I first started out as a head coach back in 94s, interim 95 full time, you know, 90% of my time was X's and O's. So it was offense defense, special teams, X's and O's. And then 10% of your time is, okay, what happened to so-and-so?

He did what? Or, you know, so-and-so's mom or can you get to, you know, whatever the player's issues are. So, and then when I left, I could make a case that was pretty much completely flipped. Uh, and there, there's, there's so much more going on in players' lives than there was, or at least we have access to the information that we can say. Maybe the same was going on, but to me, I feel like my job as a head coach, as a leader, is to make sure that when the players step on the field, that they are mentally, physically,

emotionally, spiritually ready to work. And you hear it from all the players that, you know, Keith Bullock and Eddie George saying, you were a player's coach and always- I want to take on their stuff, man. I want them to go out there and be the best they can, and they can't do that when they got shit on their minds. Yeah. Do you think that millennials are harder to coach than older players, like with the Fortnite

and the video games and dating apps, all that stuff, social media, avocado toast? Well, today's, today's guys don't sleep. And so if you're, you're a young head coach and you're listening to this program, don't start your meetings at six. Which means at nine. Yeah. And that's not a, it's not, it's not a pass for the guys to stay out at night, but they're not going to function, not especially after having breakfast, you get them at six and

get breakfast at seven. They're done. Right. So they're, it's just different. And you know, I mean, I'll, I'll, this is, I'll share this. We did this with the rims and it's, is that the phones, okay. You don't want to phone and go off in the meeting room, unless it's, he's expecting a baby.

And then I want to hear it go off cause I'm fired up for him. You know, I want my mom to call me. Okay. But so no phones in the meeting rooms, right? So what we do is turn the phones off and you put them in a basket just outside the door in the hallway. And after 25 minutes, you're done, phone check, give them 10 minutes to go look at their phones. Because you don't, I don't have to, I have studies, but I guarantee you after 25 minutes,

the brain is in the hallway wondering what's being texted or what's being emailed or what's being shot around and not on the board learning the game plan. You're not a big text message guy. A little bit. Yeah. I've texted you like 10 times. You haven't responded once, but I know you're reading them. How do you know that?

Because you, you showed up to the office and I sent, I texted you the address and you never responded and then you just showed up. Yeah. Well, I'm a text guy. You're a phone call guy. Yeah. I'm a phone call guy. Well, yeah.

For what's worth, I apologize. I didn't know who you were. No, no, no. You don't have to apologize. I know you're reading it. Yeah, that's true. That's also true. I know I know a lot of big dans in my life, but not you.

There might have been a certain quarterback who gave me your number. Yeah. Okay. So back to it. 25 minutes max. Go out and check your phones, come back in and now we're okay. Right. And that's, that's across the board.

So that's, there's, you, as coaches, you have to change as they change. Okay. And then just, it's not like, stay cool. It's more, okay, what's it, what's their world? You know, and we go on for it on and on and on about it, but What about, uh, coaching DBS go, sometimes you got to go back to move forward, go all the way back to the beginning. Um, I just want to see you back.

I appreciate that. I just want to see you asking the question. We love football guys and you're a consummate football. I love the game. You know, I love talking about the game and I love helping people and helping players. So we're going to have to write, like there's going to have to be a whole new thing.

Like I got to learn the intricacies of Matt will floor and, you know, Cliff Kingsbury. It's a lot of work. I just want, I want you to come back. I want Cower to come back. Like there's a whole list of guys that we know, yeah, it's like we can depend on Shiano. You got great guys out there now and I know you wish them well.

So are you told the story to Charlotte about, uh, the last days of the Rams, you saw them going off, which obviously was very emotional. I have a story for you. So that Super Bowl, I actually met Stan Cronkey and less needed our party and I went up to them. I was pretty drunk, but I went up to them. I said, you guys should never have fired Jeff Fisher and then less need pulled me aside.

He's like, Hey, what did you mean by that? So I think they miss you. Well, I miss them. I mean, but it's business. Yeah. You know, it's business. It's, you know, when you work for five years with somebody, like I did with less and you know, we hired less.

We interviewed a bunch of guys hard less and then you don't hear from ever again. It's the business, the way the business is. And that's just the way it is. Except it though, you know, where some luck and give a thumbs up. I had a, you know, I had a 10 week old golden tree with property in my arms too that, that cute dog. Yeah. So, so it was.

Yeah. So that, that actually, I broke that news stuff come from so that I wanted to, to kind of apologize a little bit, but also kind of brag that I broke news about you. And that's that you were in the airport with a dog and as a cute dog. Very cute. How's it doing? Well, that's, I have a new one since that. The airport dog.

The one at the airport. The one at the airport. Yeah. I bonded with the airport dog. You did. This one's too. Hey guys. I'm going to say the dog was dead.

It's my emotional support dog. Yes. Yes. So I travel with her, but now I have another one. So we have two. Nice. So I've got a little puppy. Yeah.

Charlotte wrote about her. Dirk. Dirk's model pup. So he travels with me too. Yeah. So that was a phenomenal part of the story that you named him Dirk bite. You got, you went to the breeder and then what did you do? We had him in a little kennel in the back seat and we're driving slowly down the dirt road.

I was working for the highway along the river and he, he started making noises and winding and stuff like that. So I pulled over and I put them on my lap. I just stopped and just looked at them for, you know, about 20 minutes. I contacted him, you know, and then, you know, it's that, and then you become submissive to him and they become submissive to you and that's a whole, we bond it. See that's like the, a visual of Jeff Fisher sitting in a beautiful Montana, scenic Montana background, staring into, staring into a dog's eyes, puppy's eyes.

That's the same thing he does after he drafts a player, he stares into his eyes. Did you blow into the chair, goff's nose and be submissive? Yeah. I gave him a biscuit after he finally said the sun rises in the east. I gave him a biscuit. So you probably know, but Jared is a good friend of ours. Jared is a, I'm so happy. He said hello.

I could not tell you how happy I am for Jared. All right. That's it for me. Again, I, I want you to get a job. I apologize for any jokes that I've made. I did start it, but then I became like, many times what happens is I make a joke, but then I fall in love with the person. So I eventually was like, I need, it was, I made a chart that was like, uh, if, it,

like, if you win again, it basically just got you to eight and eight, which by the way, it's bullshit that people say Jeff Fisher day is seven, nine, because you went eight and eight more times. You went seven and nine. Yeah. You know, I also had a 13 and three. Yeah. Yeah.

Let's throw that out there. Super Bowl. I had a 10 in a row. Yep. I had, we went, we were 10. 10 in a row. Oh. Yeah.

The 10th of victory was against the Bears, I think, and then we came back to Nashville. We lost to the Jets. That's when that's the week I parachuted on the field. I jumped out of a helicopter and parachuted landed on the practice field. Players didn't know it. That's incredible. That's the thing. We got to switch the narrative and we got to get the hype videos.

That was 10 in a row. Yeah. Yeah, baby. Those type of videos get you pumped up. Yeah. I'll tell you what, I watch them. I get pumped up. It's harder to lose 10 in a row than it is to win 10 in a row.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Pretty good at it. That's true. That's true. That's true.

One real quick suggestion for the AAF, if you want to just like goose the ratings a little bit. You got Spurrier there. Just make him coach shirtless. Coach him who? Coach him shirtless. Make him coach shirtless on the sidelines. Okay.

Football coach. The guy hates wearing a shirt anyway, so he'll be glad to do it. Yeah. And then people tune in just to be like, holy shit. Look at that guy. Once the dust settles after the Super Bowl's over and you guys end up with your, quote, Super Bowl vacation road trip. Yeah.

No, it's before. No, it's before. Big work. Well, no, but you're going to start back, right? Yeah. No. Fly back. Oh, you're fly back.

Yeah. A little bit of a drive. Well, on your way down, stop and see me. Yes, we are. But on your way back and you start to decompress, you'll watch these games that weekend. Yeah. They're going to be kind of cool to watch. Okay.

We're, we're digital football, so I don't think that's a problem. Yeah. But, um, coach. I'm looking forward to visiting you and getting attacked by some sort of wildlife. We can do that. Yeah. The fact that you're like, yeah, it's just a little black bear. Well, it didn't bite me.

There's a difference between charged and attack. Okay. Agrisly. You're not fucking with that. I know. I've seen them in Alaska, but I don't want to see one in the U S. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Um, but this has been great. And, uh, we're, I'm going to keep anytime there's an opening, I'm going to be whatever the job is, the hype videos coming out because you, I need you. It works out. I'll build you a studio out in the back. Yeah. I was expecting me now.

I'm happy you said it, but I had already expected it. Okay. That if you get a job, I'll be on the staff. Right on. Um, it's just kind of a guy around. Hold that guy. Yeah. You're going to be around.

Keep your son off of you. It's about social media. I'll hold the red flag for you and I'll just have it on like a platter. Here you go, coach. Next, yeah. Next to the Doseki. Yes, exactly. Exactly.

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Shout out black buffalo. All right, let's get to some segments. First up, we have a stay woke. Yes, this story is not going to die anytime soon. The Saints are still upset. They're going to be upset, I think for the next three months, four months. Longer than that. You know what?

If you're a Saints fan, I'm cool with it. I don't want to hear it from anyone else, but Saints fan fine. Yeah, I respect the city of New Orleans grudge against the NFL and Roger Godot. So keep this shit going. My parents were at a wedding in New Orleans this weekend, and they said they were, everyone was told not to bring up the Saints at the entire wedding. I love that. Just being like, hey, listen guys, we want to have a nice night,

and if you bring up the Saints, shit's going to get thrown around, and people are going to be very upset. That's fair. That's fair. The Persona non grata NFL in New Orleans. All right. So we have a new wrinkle. The new wrinkle is that apparently four of the refs.

So what is it? Six man crew? Yeah. Four of the refs. Our woman. Or women. Thank you, PFT. Four of the refs NFC championship game were from Southern California,

where the LA Rams reside. Wait, where the LA Rams are king. Yes. So these guys, if they're from Southern California, they probably grew up die hard LA Rams fans. Yes. And so they, I guess, conspired to wait until the very last second to ignore a call. Yeah.

Well, they waited. They waited their whole life for the Rams to come back to LA. Yes. Then they were like, now's our time to strike. Then they struck. That's some real counter-montage Christo shit. Yes. Just like waiting, waiting, waiting for vengeance.

Yeah. So well done. If that's actually the case, I'm totally okay with that. And masterfully executed plan. Four refs from Southern California were the ones most responsible for the non-calling Rams cornerback. Nick. Nicole.

Roby Coleman. Yikes. Yikes. Interesting. It all adds up. And you know what? Roger Goddell still hasn't. Still hasn't.

Still has not said a word. He's been kidnapped. Although he has his little state of the state, state of the league on Friday. But he might be locked out. But he might be locked out. That's what they should do. They should absolutely do that. No, I'm going to need to see ahead of the game.

I'm going to need to see each officials like Spotify playlist. Yeah. Super Bowl. Yeah. And see, okay, for every Sublime album you have, you need to have two Dropkick Murphys and an Aerosmith. I want to see the back of their trucks, see if they might have, you know, some different bumper stickers that we can, you know, maybe a Calvin in Hobbes and Calvin has a Rams hat

and he's pissing on the rest of the league. I need to see all of these things. You can spot it. We'll be able to figure it out. Maybe a grill cover. Check out their grill covers. Yeah. You know what we should do?

We should absolutely photoshop some trucks with some like really Californian. Yeah, like the refs just pulled up to the Super Bowl and we got a picture of this guy. It's just a big pot leaf and a skateboard and truck nuts on the back. Yes. So he's got a fat head in his garage. Yeah. Nice. Okay.

Todd Gurley fat head. Hmm. All right. Next up we have a respect to business. This goes to us. So everyone knows that our friend, good friend Jared Goff is in the Super Bowl. Most people don't also realize we have a good friend on the other side. And this is not a brag or anything.

We're just calling ourselves out when anyone says that we're unbiased or that we are biased. Yeah. We aren't biased because we have friends everywhere. So this came on a press conference on Friday. Julian Edelman, he dropped a Blake Bordel's boat joke during his press conference, then lost his train of thought and said it's just a running joke with some guys. Some guys guys. Who those guys you think?

Football guys. I wonder. So what do we do? We're actually so biased that we've become unbiased. We've Michael Willbond ourselves. We've biased our way into not being able to root for anyone. Yeah. We're just rooting for a good old game.

Yeah. Just a fun time. We were, you know what we're rooting for? I'm rooting for Buffalo Wild Wings. I'm rooting for it to be the highest rated Super Bowl ever. And everyone to get all their money, money's worth with their commercials. Yes. I'm rooting for some good, funny commercials.

We're rooting for the brands. That's also another idea we have coming that I don't know if we're actually going to do it. Yeah. We're going to do banned Super Bowl commercials. It's just going to be porn. That's all you need to do. It's going to be people fucking and we're going to tweet it and be like, check out this,

this commercial, the Pepsi Band. And then it's just, it's just anal. Yeah. It's just a Tiana Trump scene. Yeah. And commercial for 100% whole milk. Because we, because it's bullshit that these, all these brands are like, look at what they didn't want anyone to see.

It's like, no, you just didn't pay for a Super Bowl commercial. We should definitely have like a double penetration scene and be like, this brought to you by wet wipes. Yeah. That joke from us. I, you know what? I'm going to, I'll do the research. I'll put my hand up.

I'll do the research. I'll find us some porn clips that we can put into a Super Bowl ad. Man, that's very big. Yeah. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it later on this evening. Yeah. Me too.

Well, we all have roommates at this house. No, it's fine. We're going to do it. Yeah. We're going to do it. All right. Next up, we have a PR 101. This is for John Gruden.

So you moan while you jerk off. Of course. Yeah. You got it. Otherwise it's not realistic. Yeah. If you want to be in a TV OV camp. Yeah.

Then it's like, then I'm really in the show. Yeah. You know, I get to call up the big leagues. But as we say, like, it has to be the right visual for you. It's like, no, this guy's dick's way too big. Right, his abs. I can't imagine that this is me. He's got washboard stomach.

Yeah. That's the next innovation is just like, very personalized porn. Very, I want to find a body double. Yeah. It looks exactly like me from the neck down. Oh, you don't think that's happening? You don't think someday we're going to be doing, people are going to be, horny dudes are going to be walking around their house with virtual reality goggles.

Totally naked. You think with their rock hard dicks bumping into shit. Yeah, you think that way? Like this is awesome. I'm fucking everything. Yeah guys are just gonna keep those all the time on the on the train Some guys just gonna be nutting standing next to God damn it. I'm just reading the paper. Listen to everyone who says like our society's going to hell Just remember don't use the our society's going to hell line Until we have dudes just bumping into people with rock hard boners and goggles We have so much worse that is that we until we get to that point

We're good, and you know what? There's all this bullshit out there about like all the ways that we're ruining the world right now But if you stop and think about it all the ways that we're ruining the world for the future We're doing it by doing awesome shit for right now. Yeah, so like yeah, okay We're the world's gonna hell because every guy is gonna be wearing virtual reality Guys and having boners all the time, but that we're gonna go through heaven before we get to hell We're basically John Bonham and Led Zeppel. We're just live fast Yeah, like I don't care that the earth that all the ice caps are gonna melt. I love burning styrofoam cups

It's fucking sick awesome. It's exhilarating paper straws suck. Yes. Sorry. We all agree paper straws suck Someone figure out the technology Otherwise, we're gonna keep using the plastic and guess what a couple sea turtles now I actually don't I actually do want to take care of Mother Earth, so I'm gonna stop myself right there Okay, but why isn't it father? It's mother a little miss and a guy father. The earth is a mother. It's father Tyler father time mother Wait, you can hear the background royal rumble. We're missing. We're missing the world. Okay. All right. Let's power through big J This is what we're doing for you guys. Yeah, we're missing the Royal Rumble for the only reason you care

It's because you have money on it. Well, yeah, yeah, but we're missing the Royal Rumble to do our job How about that? Mm-hmm credit to us by the way come off to the IV this week if you're in Atlanta Yeah, a lot of people are asking so we're gonna be there from noon until 2 this week at every day doing radio And then Wednesday night at a clock. Yes, no tickets so it's just kind of show up and And get there in time to make it in I wish that sounds like it's gonna go swimming. That's gonna be great You know what? It's gonna be like it's gonna be like woodstock. There'll be people climb over the fences to get it Oh, I'll be the hell don't angle angels in Ultima don't start knife and don't take the brown acid

Mud people also shout out to the like 40 people that showed up to the Publix today That was it's been one of the weirdest things we've done, but also kind of a funny thing We're just taking pictures with people in like the dairy aisle Yeah, we should just actually go to Costco all the time just eat a bunch of samples just hang out all to meet and yeah It's like hey, come on. We're here. All right. Last up before we get to our Monday reading PR 101 John Gruden So the senior bowl was this past weekend John Gruden Walked around and slapped Raider Stickers on all the players he liked. Yeah, such an awesome move the Raiders

Finally are spinning this thing around. No, I love it. I love it man. He's just he's branding people like I could actually see a world where Coach like Greg Shiana would actually have a hot Coat hanger on the sidelines. Yes, you make a Shiano play boom Oh, Bill O'Brien if you make a bill if you play like a Texan He's gonna take out a power drill and just give you a little butch in like he's got yeah This is my guy. This is my guy the other part about this that I love is that John Gruden clearly is doing this because you can't remember Anyone so he's like it's almost like when Michael Scott has the two Asian girlfriends and he marks one of them He's just marking everyone with a Raider tag because he was not gonna remember who he liked or not

That's actually John Gruden's big board. Yeah, that's how he denotes who just so he's gonna take Alec Ingold with the first five Yeah, and guess what if you are College athlete of football player who might be in the senior bowl next year Pre-decal your helmet bring your own abs something else so that John Gruden can't draft you. Yes. Yeah, and then trade you That's a good point. Oh, I'm sure like at the peak of your abilities Look at John Gruden slapping the helmet stickers on people in the senior bowl and Hugh Jackson wouldn't even do that to his own players Until the training camp until there was enough porn played on the on the that's right

Talk today in the Browns. Can you guys tell that we've been on a tour bus for a long time? Getting off a Navy ship. Yeah, what's up everyone? Yes, it's fleet week. It's Week here on part of my take. Okay. We're good. All right. Let's finish up with our Monday reading. I'll start with the title It's doozy The title reads I'm 48 and hesitant to bring my 19 year old wife to the office party by Mark Sanchez typical problem, right? Yeah, just what are you gonna do? That's tough. All right, so it starts I was 41 years old when I was dating a lovely 16 year old girl So right off the map those numbers don't add up. That's not his wife. Go back the first one 1819 and this one is 41 and 16

So this is kind of a recurring deal recurring deal. I made the cardinal mistake of inviting her to my company party Yeah, yeah, I'd say I didn't inviting a 16 year old that you're dating to a company party is a very bad idea The cops gossip monger Types engaged in salacious banter that hurt my reputation. Hold on. It's like pineapple express This isn't the gossip mongers were not the reason why your reputation took a ding here The reason your reputation took a ding was you invited you dated a 16 year old as a 41 year old male and then brought That's 16 year old to your company party. Listen chatty Kathy and the water cooler has a real problem With me having to drive my date to the office party because she only has her learners permit and it's after 9 p.m. Oh, man

I ended up leaving the job. You got fired at 45 I then I asked that my then girlfriend age 17 to accompany me to my office party I told her not to volunteer any demographical Information about herself and instructed her to tailor appearance to look a bit older. This is great. These are healthy relationships Unfortunately a senior VP's daughter was a high school classmate with my date and he recognized her right away The shame and humiliation that I endured in the aftermath forced me to quit that employer fired again Today I'm not in it on an executive track or I'm on an executive track in a senior leadership role at a great company That has much career advancement potential. I'm 48 and my gorgeous wife of eight months just turned 19

Heating the lessons of my past. I'm extremely reluctant to take my wife to the party this week. Listen That's bullshit. This guy is a hundred percent going to bring her to the party. Oh, yeah, what he does He loves it. This is what he does. He lives for the yearly office party, right? He feels persecuted because they're like hey What's up with your wife having braces? Yeah, what's up with the fact that the You know like the entire executive board's kids recognize her from from grade school. Yeah, this is weird But skipping it would be detrimental from a networking standpoint However, if I attend with my wife, I risked possibly irking many people

Especially since numbers of my colleagues have daughters in her same age range. I don't think this will go well in this me too Are yes, it's the me too. I know Lee. Yeah, it is. Yeah, should I attend the party alone? First of all, I like the fact that he was like the cardinal sin of bringing my ridiculously younger spouse to a party It's like I made the cardinal sin of lobbing a hand grenade into a group of people. Oh, this guy I've never seen anyone Like blame everyone else for the fact that he can't stop dating women that are wildly inappropriate for his age Little solution here for this guy. He should take two dates One should be like 50 years older than him. Yes, and one beef, you know, 40 years younger

I think that makes everyone happy, right? Because then if they get mad at you about it, you're like, you're just ages Yeah, what if some of my best girlfriends are 90 years old? I'm just a historian. Yeah I'm this is my 23 and me laid out or he could just date one of his colleagues daughters That that would just cut out the middleman and get immediately to his firing. Yeah, right You don't have to go wishy-washy. Should I quit? Should I I'm not gonna become executive? No, you're getting fired right away Yes, I like that after much humiliation. He said the relation was like getting called into his boss's office Be like, dude, what the fuck? Yeah, everyone being like, hey, man, you're kind of creepy. Yeah Because I guess you're dating a 16 year old. Yes, like that's not normal and but no is the chatty cat these that damn water cooler

Fuck and it you know, it sucks is you know, everyone usually uses it for like, hey Do you see the that under not hit? Yeah, hey, man Imagine being me talking to you right now imagine imagine Dating a 16 year old and what everyone's gonna talk about at the water cooler Monday. How old do you think my girlfriend is should have taken the under? Oh, man rats That's Ravel Ravel's getting testy about that. Yeah Yeah, very self-conscious everyone off Ravel. He's he's self-conscious about his gambling acumen. Is he? Yes

Well, he's still learning. He's learning. Yeah. Yeah, guess what? We all suck at gambling relax We should make up a gambling term and and see if we can trick him into believing that it's real. Yes Okay, we'll be on the lookout hot tomorrow. Well, you know what we'll put it as a Deleted scene in our porn video that we're gonna release later this week Okay, look out for it and use it. I think you meant to say band Super Bowl. They're bands Super Bowl Yeah, our porn bands. No, it's not porn. It's just a porn video. It's just get approved We just wanted to go for gummy bears. We just wanted to release our top five cream pies Yeah, you know what those chatty kathies at the FCC have a real problem of gossiping about all the different cum shots on our

God damn it. Oh, all right big week big guess. It's gonna be fun. Everyone follow along We'll have some fun subscribe to that PMT YouTube channel follow us on Instagram and Twitter. We'll have all the updates of whatever we get into this week Maybe We're gonna sneak into radio we're on Friday, but we're not going to yes We're not gonna do that. We'll see everyone Wednesday. Love you guys What At your local party, yes, I crank it every day

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