Pardon My Take - Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old

Episode Date: January 29, 2025

The dust has settled from Championship Sunday and we check in on PFT and Max already being in Super Bowl mode(00:00:00-00:21:34). Liam Coen’s introduction to the world went very weirdly. Jerry Jones can’t stop talking about Glory Holes(00:21:34-00:39:55). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Josh Harris stopping the Sixers from posting about the Eagles and PFT’s clothes got stolen(00:39:55-01:05:36). Jerry O’Connell joins us in studio to examine what went wrong our fantasy team, who were drafting next year and a poem to memes(01:05:36-02:30:04). We finish with a special guys on getting old before our birthdays(02:30:04-02:50:26).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Jerry O'Connell in studio. He's on the hot seat. We're going to find out if he can be our fantasy GM

or manager, no, coach. He's our coach. He is at the top of the food chain for right now. For right now. Great time with Jerry in studio. We're going to talk a little introductory press conference around the NFL, maybe a little early thoughts on the Superbowl where Max's head is at. We have hot seat, cool throne, and then we're going to do guys on chicks questions about getting old because

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Today is Wednesday, January 29th. And boys, the dust has settled from the championship Sunday. We got a Super Bowl to look forward to. How's everyone feeling? Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now that the dust has been settled. No, I don't think he should be fired. But that has been the discourse. He's a, he's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those, those losses just stay with the man. Yeah. Andy Reed, you know what happened

to him? He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles. He was fired. He fired him. Then he went to Kansas City and now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Yeah. How are you feeling, PFT? I know obviously Sunday sucked for you. Yeah. I think Monday probably sucked as well. When I woke up on Monday, I felt better. Just from the second I opened my eyes

and I posted a meme about it and I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's two, the two guys on the bus meme. Yep. One is really pissed off, doom and gloom. The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off is losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked. Yeah. So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think, than being like, Oh, you know, we were one play away. Oh yeah.

I said it to you right after the game. I was like, I felt bad for you. Like, it sucked to watch that. And I was like, the only spin zone is, if it were a Bills situation or a weird call or penalty or a dropped ball, Mark Andrews, those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks and weeks and weeks. This one it's like, yeah, you got your ass kicked. Yeah. I'm still not happy about the result of the game, but, and I'm also not doing the thing where I'm just constantly pointing at, we'll be back. Look, look at this team. That's

the worst team Jayden's ever going to have. You never know. Yeah. Weird things happen in the NFL all the time. So I I've've also realized and this is my fault for not realizing before the game that was the post Lions week Yeah, and every team gets her ass kicked through those lines So the Eagles didn't really even beat us the Lions we just had delayed onset getting beaten by the Lions So the Lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship. Yeah, exactly Yeah, I mean it happened with the Vikings to the Vikings beat the Lions last game of the season. lose to the Rams know the Lions beat the Vikings beat the Vikings. But they played and then they end up losing

afterwards. Yeah. So congratulations to the Lions for beating us. Yeah. Yeah, they actually won that game. Yeah, but you know, it's not a good feeling. Next week would be so much more fun if my team was in it. Yeah, but say so. I'm well, I'm doing okay. Max. Yeah, I'm on the Kansas City. But I'm back on being mad at the media because now everyone's just saying,

oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback. Oh, who said that? Now it's back. Yeah, it sounds like there's another addition to the list. Oh yeah, big time list. Oh, Colin Coward said that the Eagles might not get in the red zone

because the Chiefs defense is so good. That's mega-list. By the way, I've done some... we'll do a full preview next week. But our good friend Rhone, I told him because we were talking about... He was saying like, you know, the Chiefs defense is really... The Chiefs defense is a little overrated. I'm gonna say it right now. I'm gonna dig into some numbers for you, but I'm gonna say it. That's what I'm talking about. I need that.

Their rush defense has not been like incredible in the, in the back half. Now the problem is for the chiefs, for you and the chiefs is their offense has gotten a lot better. Like I don't think that I think their defense is, is a little worse than people. Uh, I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average and I think people think that their offense is average and I think that's also above average. So it's still patch from homes. That makes sense. It's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into, but I think their defense a little bit worse, but their offense is a little bit better. Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Cowherd on your list

because that's, that's what he wanted to have happen. He said that. So guys like you would be like Colin Coward, let's talk about him. Yeah, you fell for yeah, you fell for I don't care. I don't care mega list I did get tagged in a stat That you got upset about before I even said it you were like well your last fucking stat last big stat was that no quarterback That's not a stat that was a curse. It was a potential curse. It was a 25-year curse. That's not a stat dude. That's a curse You don't believe difference max for the record. You do not believe in 25 plus year curses. I Don't know where this I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to our man. Yep. All right Ryan Hannibal did tweet and I got tagged in this max without my fault that the AWLs tagged me in this

They said something to note ahead of the Super Bowl Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio has faced Patrick Mahomes eight times six with Denver twice with Miami his teams are 0 and 8 and Mahomes has thrown two 10 TDs and two interceptions in those games now those Denver. That was prime Mahomes. Well also those Denver and Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do. Denver was pretty good. I mean, they weren't. The Eagles defense is very good. But yeah, is that a stat worth jumping down my throat? I'm not worried about trends. No trend. I got a trend, big cat.

No team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985. Whoa. But Max doesn't care about trends. But it's an extra game. I also have a trend. I also have a trend every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the Superbowl on this podcast, the Eagles have lost. Not a trend. Incorrect. Incorrect. We beat them in the regular season last year. Next. I said in the Superbowl. Correct. I missed that. I love it. I love that you're on a little boy ass play. Oh yeah. Sirianni doing the

tunnel thing and then it all fell apart. No it was. No it was Travis Kelsey little boy ass play. Oh yeah. Nobody. Yeah but wasn't that the game when Sirianni was in the tunnel after. Oh yeah. How do you like us now. And then they lost every game after. Yeah. Nick Sirianni good coach. Have we got any media requests for max during the week of the Superbowl? Zero, zero meteor. Oh, come on. Come on people. I also say that max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on radio row as well. Yeah. I get two guests for the price of one. Yeah. That was not a weight joke. That was just two teams. Yeah. Um, big guy, I have a question for you because there's a take that is, uh, it's riling

people up online. Okay. Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had to defenders from the Kansas city chiefs in his face? Are you talking about Kalulish Shakir? Yeah. Yeah. He was running the little merry-go-round play in the backfield. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I didn't play in the NFL. Uh, it felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do But I actually think Ben Solek is as good as job and I like his his film analysis He holy shit was at an overreaction for people who missed it He basically broke down the play and was like Josh Allen had Khalil Shakir open on the backside

But if you watch the play, it's like, it's, he had a chief in his face. Not if you simply flip your hips. Yeah. You got to flip your heads and make the throw. But he did make the throw. Yeah. He did make a good, he made an incredible, he made the play happen. Yeah. That's the real story is Dalton KK. I feel like he's getting left off a little bit too easy. Uh, just because it's easier to be like Josh Allen can't beat Patrick from homes. Holmes. He should have flipped his hips to the left. I personally would have thrown it even deeper for a touchdown. Yeah. The touchdown was open on that play. But so Ben Soulek did a film breakdown and then it was almost like it was

essentially the anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL linemen, quarterbacks. And then Ryan Leaf showed up and everyone was like, ah, dude, maybe this isn't cool anymore. He wrote, quote treating Ben Solik, he said, this right here is why in full transparency you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass. You work at ESPN, call Alex, call Dan, call Timmy H. Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had. I'm serious though. Someone go rough this kid up. See if he throws the orbit. I love it.

I was like, it was basically, cause it was everyone. It was like, you know, like in all these people I respect. And I think Ben probably did minimize how easy or how difficult of a throw that was. Um, but was. But it's also like you're having a discussion about a game. Like that's the whole point of Twitter. You talk about the game, you break down the game. But it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Fitzy was nice to him. Yeah, Fitzy was nice to him. He's like, I love your passion, which is actually the meanest thing you can say. But he-

I mean, it was a horrible take. He said it like it was a bad take. It was like the proper Harvard man that he was. That's fitzy's version of saying somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass but The correct take was that the bills didn't slide their protection correctly because Spags was doing one blitz all game and then he written then he flipped it on him Yeah, I think there were two things working against been so like and yeah He is good at what he does but number one he used the dots. His initial take use the overhead use the dots. They use the overhead

dots and the overhead. I don't know who likes watching the dots. It's all the like film nerd people. You don't you don't like football if you like watching the dots. Yeah. Or maybe maybe you can but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other. There's nothing cool that happens. You get a little animated football that glides across the field. What's your favorite album of all time? Big Cat? Probably. Oh, probably. Third Eye Blind, self titled. Okay, Third Eye Blinds. If you hadn't heard it, I was under pressure. I was under

pressure. I was going to maybe go sublime sublime. I was also maybe going to go good choices. The band self-titled. Fuck. Okay. Let's say that was hard. Let's say, let's say Prince Purple Rain. Okay. You've never heard it, right? Yeah. Sublime, sublime. Okay. Sublime, sublime. You've never heard the battle ballad of Johnny, but you've never heard wrong way. You've never heard caress me down. I come up to you and I'm like, big cat, I think you're going to love this album. And then I hand you the sheet to love this album. And then I hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read. Yeah, that's what looking at the dots is for football. You can't

appreciate how sick it actually is. So use the dots, that's strike one, and then strike two. His profile pic that he had was a bad signal for football jocks to point at him and say, this is everything that's wrong with the film dorks that are sitting at home They're in their big comfy chairs and they've never had a guy in their face before Yeah, so I think every film nerd should have to on video let a guy just get right in their face Yeah, like have a guy come in their face. Yep, like not you know, like physically Yeah, physically like impose their will on them in his face and then show that you can break down film while a guy is

In your face also just maybe grow a mustache that helps to that always helps The funny thing is Kurt Warner ever heard of him Super Bowl MVP MVP of the league he actually kind of agreed with Ben not that the That Shakir was there but more that it was the discussion should not be like, oh, where should he have thrown it? It should have been, how did the Bills not get the right protection, have a plan for that type of blitz? And again, Hank's right.

Josh Allen made the throw. Dalton Kincaid, I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands. What do you always say, Hank? If you can touch it, you can catch it. Yeah, touch it, you can catch it. I do feel bad for Bills fans, because that's how we started the show.

You were able to bounce back relatively speaking because of the ass kicking. Bill's fans are going to spend the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and everything. Yeah, I was lucky enough to get to go home on Sunday and not have to force myself to spend the next 48 hours drawing Photoshopped lines onto the screen to show where the ball

is, where the first down line is, and then replying to every popular tweet using my Photoshopped lines and demonstrating that the NFL was wrong. But you have to do that if you're a Bulls fan. And again, it comes down to the Chiefs are so well coached and they make big plays. Because I was also watching, so it was that Spags Blitz, which was an incredible blitz, perfectly timed. And this is what the Chiefs do, they just make big plays. The other one, which I didn't notice obviously in real time, but the Mahomes designed run

for the touchdown to go up seven. It was very cool because they basically ran, it looked exactly like a run going left and all the Bills crashed left. I think they pulled the guard and then Mahomes just went right and it's like, I think it was Rousseau said they had not run that play all year. The Chiefs had not run that play all year. I think Mahomes had one designed run all year and he's like, we watched all the film that never showed up. That's coaching's Andy Reid being like we're in a game against a team that we know it's gonna come down to one possession we got us we got to throw a few things at them that they've never seen before and that's what they

did and that's why the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl and Mahomes going for a three Pete. Spin zone for Bills fans the last time I remember this much breakdown of one fourth down slash first down slash referees getting involved and the spot might be incorrect. It was the Michigan Ohio State game right before Michigan went on its win streak against Ohio State. Yeah, right. Well, there's a little bit of bottoming out. But then yeah, but then yeah, yeah, but then they were back. Yeah, then they were back big time. We also might get a microchip now. Yeah. So the microchip I love the chain gang. I love the sticks I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines. Sometimes that's always fun, too But I like the idea. I love it. If there's a close play, they stop the clock real quick The chain gang comes out onto the field. There's that moment of anticipation

Then you either get the first down or you don't get the first down. It's like another play that's built in that you get to cheer for or be pissed off about. I like the chain gang, but I can see why the microchip crowd can be like, we can measure this better. But again, it comes down to, and whatever, throw that play, throw the refs out of that. It came down to, I saw the stat that the Chiefs, I think, that was the most stuffed runs on a QB keeper, on a QB sneak, like in a lot of years, three times they stuffed it.

Why were you running that three times? Especially in a play that by design, you don't know where the ball is. The ref can't tell where the ball is. It's a 50-50 call for the ref, and you're leaving that up to it on a play that you aren't able where the ball is. The ref can't tell where the ball is. It's a 50-50 call for the ref, and you're leaving that up to it on a play that you aren't able to get those yards. That's where I was, I said it on Sunday night,

like, go ahead and blame the refs if you want to. That was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the Chiefs that just didn't feel smart. I think if you can't see the ball, then you get the microchip involved. Yeah. I just like talking about microchips It and I also like whenever someone's like we were able to do this but not this it also get on the moon

But we can't do a microchip. Yeah, that's like those are my favorite arguments So the microchip would exist in the in the middle of the ball, right? So how would you know I thought and this is maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it I thought they would wrap it in a microchip The ball would be made out of microchip kind of and shiny on the outside. It would be one of those like Like the tin foil and then they heat it up and it's in it Envelopes it if you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pigskin. He's gonna try to eat it Yeah, so be on the lookout for that If you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pigskin, he's going to try to eat it. Yeah.

So be on the lookout for that. But there should be a way if you can't see the ball, maybe go to the microchip. But I love the chain gang. It's one of the things about football that's just, it's tradition and you shouldn't try to don't make the NFL into the NBA. Don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not that we all hate. And the Chiefs made a couple more plays than The Bills made yeah, that's that's what it came down to going back to the beginning of the show if this exact scenario

It happened to Washington and they were in Buffalo situation. Mm-hmm. Would you be saying the same thing about the way? I would I would be I would be pulling the memes at the NFL front office right now Yeah, I'd be in New York and ready for the Writing letters to Congress. I would be in New York and ready for the microchip. If that happened to the Bears, I'd be writing letters to Congress. I would never turn 40 if that happened. Yeah, and I would be writing letters to Congress and self-funding microchip data. Yeah.

I'd go broke trying to get microchip, but my only rule for getting the microchips in the balls of you, we have to replay that game. Yeah, I would move to Taiwan and start my own semiconductor company. I mean, if that happened, if I were a Bills fan, I would probably just walk around with a picture of the spot and the ball that was beneficial to me,

and I would just be, it'd be like showing a picture of your kids or your dog. She'd be like, you wanna see this? Did you see what happened? Years later, I'd be like, did you guys see this? It was fucking crazy. Remember that movie Celtic Pride? I would kidnap Roger Goodell and I would tattoo

that image onto his body, so we had to look at it every single day. I'd clockwork orange him. I'd open up his eyeballs and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over. Severance, make him apologize into a screen a thousand times. To your future self, Roger. Yeah. But yeah, stop complaining, Bills fans. Well, no, you can't- No, I'm just kidding. I'm joking.

Keep complaining. No, no, definitely keep complaining. Keep complaining. Keep posting the screenshots. Don't give that up. I think it's more, I think Bills fans keep complaining. I think non, like if you don't have a dog in the fight, Bills or Chiefs, fucking move on and stop saying the NFL's rigged. Again, you pointed out, the NFL's rigged, just bet everything on the Chiefs.

If it's rigged, if it's rigged, if you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the Chiefs on every single year. I love the people that discover for the first time that the NFL is argued in court that they're an entertainment company, not a sports company. And then that proved that it's 100% rigged, which if you're looking for, if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff

to work with. They give you a ton to work with. But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not one ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and was like, no, that looks like it's two inches short. We need Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl again. There was a lot of takes flying, but I did appreciate one person saying, I'm going to give you, too bad, Big Cat, I kind of give you a pass because it's your job, but at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt. It would be a big statement for all of Barstool Sports to take a stand here and boycott.

Boycott the Super Bowl. Boycott. I'll say this loud and clear. I'm always going to watch the Super Bowl. It's the last football game of the year. And anyone who says they're not going to watch the Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar. You're just a liar. You're going to watch the Super Bowl. You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl. You're going to fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday They literally mean named a Sunday after it and you're gonna open your eyes and you're gonna watch that fucking game You know what? I think we should make a stand. Who was it that said that?

Tram 2022 tram 2022 is right as a company noted noted Paul watcher as a company tram I think that we should all boycott the pro bowl games. Okay. We've done this, I think four or five years in a row. Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm doing it this year for tram. Yeah, I'm not going to watch. Okay. I'll stand with you. Are they going to do the one where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw? I won't watch. I might watch that, but the rest of it, I'm out. I'll, I won't watch at least some part of the Pro Bowl games. OK.

Yeah. That feels right. That feels right. We'll show them. Yeah. OK. We should talk about some coach introductions. So Liam Cohn.

Whoa, that guy's weird. I kind of like him. I mean, I like him in the fact that like, I can't look away when he did the Duval and he did the double eyebrow raise. Yeah. Um, I talked to Jerry O'Connell about that. We were hanging out in the gambling cave. He's like, so that, uh, that Jaguars coach, he's, uh, that was AI, right? Like seriously, like AI. He was like, now that we're off the air, can you tell me, like that was AI. Yeah. No, it's no, that's, that's him. That's Liam Cohn. And it's, it's rare that you see one thing from an introductory press conference and you just know what it's going to be like after every

single Jaguars loss. Yeah. Where that is going to be the only thing that you see on social media. That's going to be the one thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cohen until I see him do something even weirder Yeah Yeah, it's explosive I'm case his eyes like there's a lot of things that if you do the first your first press conference if you say it or Your first introduction to the world Dave Canales his book. Yeah, there's just a lot of things like he And did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up? Max of him talking about honesty is the best policy. That was very funny. Yeah. Cause I, I, I said on Sunday, I, I have, I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could have handled

it better, but I think football is like, everyone's gotta look out for themselves, but it's just very like insanely unself aware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you lied to the entire Bucs organization. Here it is. That's really what is going to come down to is honesty. I want to surround ourselves with people that are going to be able to tell you hard truths, be able to show you your blind spots, because that's really, like I mentioned, where growth occurs when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right and the results will speak for themselves. I kind of love the idea though of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach. Yeah. Just a guy that's that's actually a snake, a guy that's dirty, like the perfect Florida

man. I want I want him to to go to a pawn shop with Brian Thomas Jr. to try to get 90 bucks for him. I want him to get paid in scratch off tickets. I want him to do a video with the Vyral Jags woman. They need to do that. He also dropped an acronym. That's always a no no in the NFL. I feel like that's just maybe a college, college acronyms kind of work. But his acronym is FAST and it stands for Fundamentally Sound Attacking Situational Masters Tough. Situational Masters is a good one.

Oh, man. I mean, it did. I, my acronym point, I mean, Matt Eberfluss had an acronym and it was the hits principle and the T in hits standard for the ball. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. I was on the wall situational masters. That's I want to know what that means. Why could it be situational football? Just situational awareness masters because they want to be masters of situations. Fundamentally sound. Yeah, like just be fundamental attacking situational football tough. Yeah.

That sounds better than situational masters and fundamentally sound. Tough ball, then it would be S-A-F-T-B. Yeah. Can you pull up that? I want to see him explain the acronym. The Jaguars posted it. And listen, I will say this in defense of the Jaguars. When Dan Campbell did his

introductory press conference, people laughed at it. People said that was crazy. They said he was a meatball. He's an idiot. They're not going to win any games. He turns out to be a... Max, is he a winning coach? A winning coach? I wasn't paying attention. I wasn't voting for this Is he a winning coach? A winning coach? I wasn't paying attention. I'm a winning coach. Yes. Okay. So he's turns out to be a winning coach. Uh, so you can't fully base every it's like one of those, uh, every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach, but every bad coach probably had a poor press. Really bad. I remember when Jim Zorn was introduced as the coach of the Redskins,

he was promoted from being the offensive coordinator before he ever coached the game as the OC. He was promoted to head coach. In his introductory press conference, he said, like, I can't wait to represent the maroon and black of the Washington Redskins, which are not the colors of the team. And so from that point on, you just were like,

I don't really trust this guy 100%. But with Dan Campbell, yes, he's kind of overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference. But the first thing that people bring up usually with Dan Campbell is like, yeah, you know, this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps. Yeah. They still talk about it. It became a positive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it was at the time, it was laughed at for sure. Okay. This is, this is Liam Cohn's acronym. It takes complementary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do

we want to play the game? And that's fast. Fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, and tough. both mentally and physically. You see players in the room right here, guys that I've had conversations with already. It will always be about you. So he's not the worst speaker. I think it's just that his face was put on incorrectly. He sounds like he's trying to do a presidential campaign.

No, he sounds like he's giving a TED talk about coaching a football team Yeah, that's if you play that back and think about a guy on stage and like a leather jacket With one of those microphones that attaches to his chin and now listen to him. This is a TED talk It's also it's also just crazy because all you had to say was we want our players to play fast Yeah, you don't have to do an acronym for it. Yeah, that's as good The faster you are the faster you got a position if you you're not a situation. That's true. Good point. Do that. Yeah, think about Ted. It takes complimentary football at all three

phases to be great. Offense, defense and special teams. How do we want to play the game and that's fast. Yeah, This guy's looking for funding. This is South by Southwest. Uh, they're going to be like, Hey, we're going to do a presentation on football. Yeah. Okay. First we're going to bring out, uh, Elon's going to host this panel about football guys. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, I'll say this. It works in the jet for the Jags just cause it's kind of a, a hilarious,

just visual and everything. And he could end up being a head coach, but if you were a Bucks fan that was upset, feelings hurt, crying, being a baby, Steven Che, you should watch this and be like, we're okay. Yeah, you feel good, you feel good. But I hope it works out for the Jaguars. Yeah, I do too.

Max, I have a question for you about the birds. Yep. Rumors on the street are that Kellan Moore might be the next coach of the Saints. How do you feel about that? Will the Saints get a coach? I don't know. He interviewed for that a while ago. It is alarming that they haven't hired somebody new yet. I was hoping that Mike McCar-

What? Alarming. Yeah. Oh, did they do- I didn't even know they did a second interview with him? Yeah. They flew into Philly. Yeah. They went there. Kind of a thirsty move by the Saints No, it's it was I mean we lose our coordinator Jalen Hurst has had eight different coordinators

Since he's since he's been in the league and I feel like he's only been in the league for like five years so it's that would suck but You know, you got to worry about winning right now. That's the only thing that matters Are you worried that he's gonna be doing interviews instead of getting prep for the he just did his interview He just did his second interview. Do you could have been using he could have been using that time for the cheese Do you think that maybe sir Iani is? Looking at killing more doing all these interviews, and he's like you know what maybe I should take a more hands-on approach Maybe maybe I could call a few yeah, Super Bowl

No, but anti-stat for you and Van Geo guy Van Geo Van Geo We get a new if we didn't get a new fan. So yeah, it sounds like a Vic Van Geo is actually a great van name What last year dolphins faced Mahomes they lost that game But the Chiefs only scored 14 points and my homes through for 180 yards in that game Okay, uh-huh anti-stat Play I never said anything about The stat no you just got anti-stat no being the stat I said is still correct as a clean I know but you know context I'm adding more context to your stat context that okay. I was looking up

During that whole bills talk. I was looking up. I was looking up, during that whole Bill's talk, I was looking up anti-stats. So what were the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means in, so if we just went to seven games, he's 0 and 7, 10 touchdowns, two interceptions. No, there's a couple others, but that was the most recent one, so that's why I used that one. He just got Vangioed.

I got Vangioed. What were we talking about before this? You guys get turned on by just looking at Vangeo? It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to, because you know that you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block, and then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you. Yeah.

There was a clip that there was another. And he'll be pacing around the room while you're gone. You just say you're like, max, here's a stat like, all right, hold that thought. I'll be back in 30 minutes. And when you come back, he's like, all right, I found it. There was, there was another clip that was going, uh, that was like going around. Eagle's Twitter was like, uh, Chris Canty. He like got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen hurts and his producer like stepped, stepped stepped in in the middle of it and Corrected him and like awful announced he was like wow one of the craziest things on I've ever seen on ESPN

someone's producer coming in and correcting Damn imagine like that producers definitely a bird's fan by the way I think he was just like I think he was like I had Jalen Hurts top 10 before the year and his producer was like Yeah, but you also said he was not top 10 during the year. I was like, this is my guy. Yeah. That's a bird's fan. But the fact that all for announcing was like, I've never seen anything like this. A producer. No way. Uh, Max is brain Graham going to play in the Superbowl? He's active. Wow. And what about cam Juergens and, uh and Lennon Dickerson?

Schefter said that they have a real good chance of playing. Oh good. Okay. Do you like that you're wearing green? Not you You're already in Super Bowl mode where you're fighting stats I just for the podcast is there I said do you like that you're wearing green and max looked down at his own shirt? I meant the uniforms in the Super Bowl dude Yeah memes brought brought that up It's it's okay. Okay. Yeah, that's not good. I put that on a quote card. It's okay max's thoughts on the Eagles wearing green It's okay. Yeah memes keep saying it's 21 jump Street 22 jump Street saying meaning. It's the same movie Oh, and I just keep saying it's rocky one rocky, too

All right, but I don't know about I don't think right I don't think they were the same stuff the same the same trunks in both of those movies But you guys are wearing the same trunks You're wearing white we are wearing the same trunks. I don't think in rocky one rocky two. They're wearing the same trunk Okay, so they're wearing they're wearing green that they wore the same green they wore in The last Super Bowl, correct? I believe that was yeah, it's same exact same exact uniform matchup Okay, other coach hiring for news the Cowboys brought in

Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference. We also had Jerry Jones talk more about glory holes. He said there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory holes, very low percentage talking about just the business. They clarify himself when he repeated very low percent very low glory holes. There's a second time that Jerry Jones has brought up glory holes, maybe even third. I think he believes that a glory hole is a Superbowl window. To him, it's the same thing. Yeah. So when he's like, I want to get back to the glory hole days, I want me some glory hole in his eyes, he's talking about being a championship team, but you don't make that mistake unless

you're a man that has used a glory hole or two. Okay, let me see. You might also just be talking about an oil well. Yeah, he could be. So I'm looking at Wikipedia says a glory hole or two. OK, let me see. He might also just be talking about an oil well. Yeah, he could be. So I'm looking at it. Wikipedia says, a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side. They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral sex. Trying to find if there's any.

No, glory holes go back all the way to 1707. Yeah. The trials of Thomas Vaughn and Thomas Davis, the two Toms going at it in the glory hole. Is that where Peeping Tom came from? Maybe. Yeah. So is it anything, let's see.

In popular culture, no. So yeah, is it is it an oil well? Well in his mind it might be like that is a glory hole. Oh Yeah, hole hunter comm I'm not gonna click on that one You just go up you stick your dac in Oh, yeah miners would use it somebody's for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold oil or whatever natural Resource you look at. There we go. That's it.

That's what he's talking about. He's talking about oil, guys. No one has told him that glory hole means anything else. He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up. Yeah. Also, Stephen Jones is getting kind of lambasted because he did a press conference. He's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones. He's going to be the perfect Jones heir to have the Cowboys not have any success as well. But he was talking

about the drought, the 30 year drought, Superbowl and championship game drought. And he did air quotes. Yeah, it's just quotes. It's just like you guys, dude, it is a drought. The media has been obsessed with this so-called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls. Right. The drought. But it's one of those, it's a bad stat. Gotta find the glory.

It's a misleading stat. We've won several off seasons. The funniest part of this press conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer and the whole crowd clapped for him. It was very nice, very positive. And then the loudspeaker introduced Stephen Jones the executive vice president and nobody clapped at all And then one guy started clapping and then three other guys kind of clapped and they pretend to laugh Oh, you know, they're just busting my balls. They really love me up here. That's nice

Yeah, the Cowboys are a fun watch of just I mean It's just so funny that they just didn't do a coach search Well, they did and they when they talked to Pete Carroll He called Pete Carroll to get his opinion on Brian Schottenheimer as a coach and then they said we also briefly talked about the Possibility that he could coach but it was just it was a fact-finding call. Yeah So Pete Carroll was probably very confused about that. He's like what is going on here? Am I applying or no? Yeah, probably not Yeah, so all right. Do we have anything else before we do hot sea cool throw? We're just not gonna talk about the fact that Cardi B has pierced her butt crack. No, I mean no, I didn't know that happened

Yes, I want to talk about it. Yeah, she announced that on x.com the everything app. Okay yesterday. So Dot-dot-dot. I got my butt crack pierced Okay, your thoughts how how well then she said do I lie and post a picture of it right here? So she got the top. Oh, I see how but that's actually It's actually cute. I Think it's cute wiping is gotta be tough. Yeah. Yeah, she's got a back like I Didn't want to think about this with cardi B, but here I am It does okay

All right, so she got her butt crack. She should have just done so I did a thing then yeah some personal news And it's a picture of her asshole not rush war punishment but crack piercing I'm in Stink about it you say stink about it stink about it We also just had a crazy College basketball Monday night with the Duke player puking which is Nuts, I've never seen that much puke on a basketball court. Yeah, and there's so many towels and then Caleb love who is

Not good at basketball, but then hit a 60-footer to be good at basketball He was one for 11 from three and then hit a 60-footer to go to overtime and win the game He's got those games. Yeah, he's yeah. What was the it was like he puked and then a Fan passed out what's going on in Cameron from seeing the puke? I don't know. It's hot. I Guess it's hot in there. I guess it's hot in there yeah it is hot in there okay should we do hot seat cool throne and then we have Jerry O'Connell quick word from our friends big big-time sponsor MTV and guess what we've got for the first time ever the challenge all-stars is coming

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Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely it seems like they're gonna trade him How many times is that is this second third suspension this year? Well? Yeah, he's been trying to force his way out Yeah, and they've just been playing that doesn't sound like a ball But it sounds like the heat Pat Riley. You know he had the bigger dick. He ended up on top sixers Shouldn't the guy with a bigger dick end up on bottom be on top on top. It sounds painful sixers There is a rumor out there. Oh no. I don't, I don't want him.

I mean, he's old and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer. Can't even win. Won one Eastern Conference Finals, two. I think the older, the older is the bigger part of the equation. I think the older piece is the bigger part of the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler in his prime prime you would love to have him on

your team if you're the Sixers can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team you'd never let him go true Kevin love also has been putting on a meme clinic I know this entire process I don't know what like he just switched the flip and was like fuck it I'm just gonna I love it I'm just gonna get my way out through memes. Yeah Very very funny. What about what about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation? Phoenix is the favorite right now to land them, but Bradley Beal has no trade clause and Although like yes, you have no trade clause you negotiate that for a reason but come on Bradley

Does it is there any? Like if you're GM or yourD or you're Devin Booker, is there any part of you that's like, hey, instead of trying to get Bradley Beal or Jimmy Butler, why don't we get like five really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys? It's so weird to me whenever it's like, what's this? What's the problem with our team? Let's add another alpha that needs the ball. I also love that Matt Eshbia last year was Like I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward And now he's trying to do the same butler. Yeah, just had another name that we all know

It's they're basically doing the strategy that I do every year with fantasy football where it's like, uh, I think yeah Tony Gonzalez I dropped the Tony Gonzalez like seven years after he was good. That guy was awesome. Yeah. I see his name. The warriors of the other team. Warriors are a mess. I mean, a mess in that they are not going to probably make the playoffs. And I don't know what, like, Steph is let's stuff be free. He probably doesn't want to. Maybe he's just running Jersey guy, but I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before he has he retires. It does feel like this is the end of that era. Oh, yeah. Definitely. Like officially. Can you imagine Jay, but on that team would like trying to get along with Draymond Green? No, no. And I don't even think like this is why

this revisionist history just fucking just resign clay gotten, like, you have to pick a lane, like, just maybe just get old together. Yeah. And just be like, all right, it was fun, but everyone got to stay together. I don't know. I mean, it's not working. Yeah, but they'd need, we're gonna have to pay so much.

No, I know. Well, yeah, it's not, it's not stupid. I just feel like if you know you're not gonna win again, just go nostalgia. Yeah, it's not, I mean. But if they have any chance of winning again, not paying any bad contracts. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, I agree. It was a dumb thought. I was just thinking of the nostalgia. Yeah, it's not that but any chance of winning again not paying. Yeah No, yes, I agree. It was a dumb thought. I just think of this

I know what you're saying. Yeah, which is if the team's not competitive You might as well just kind of keep everybody around and together and then let them all maybe one day They all retire at the same time or maybe they win one series again like as 37 year olds. You're like, oh that was cool Yeah, it's a dumb thought. I understand It's a dumb thought really stupid. I mean a dumb ownership ship group would certainly do something like that Yeah, but a smart ownership group would not correct Okay, cool throwing. I mean this is where it's like I I think I say this every time, but then I'm saying it right now I'm talking about it bringing up on the show, so I have you know I don't know where this is going

following the idea where this is going you found the trap again are you gonna talk about the Gunaside again nope I never talked about that once my cool throne is the Paul brothers ah yeah that's a good one and yes you're everything you kind of said I don't really didn't really fully go through but yes I agree but I know what you were saying. I agree I don't think it was I should have said it first the Paul brothers in the cool throne. I say this every time Yes, I don't want to watch it. I know it's gonna be rigged. It's gonna be bullshit people gonna walk away disappointed yet Here I am correct talking about it again, and I probably will I definitely will and we already I already have max the streaming app

Right. Yeah, so it's no additional money I Do have multiple max's memes make the I fell for it again award Although it's a guy wearing a Celtics hat and all the all the medals on his chest are for tuning in to Jake Paul fights Yeah, they need they need to be like a knockout like The most yes to be like five dollars five dollars if either one gets a knockout a hundred million. Yeah, yeah Jake Look Logan's bigger. She no Jake Jake's bigger. I thought Logan was taller, but Jake's beefier

It's Jake. Is it boxing Jake is the better box Jake has been training boxing more consistently Logan's on the wrestling he's and he's done like the faker I mean we're talking about this right is it but is it is a boxing match or is it MMA what is it it's boxing might all be a this all is all might be a work yeah it's like the wording of it is kind of weird yes Logan is yeah imagine they come out just play rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Uh, Logan is six to, uh, two Oh five and Jake is six one. Okay. Two twenty seven. All right. Yeah. So Jake and they have the same exact reach. So Jake also this

time of year be, have, have your alert, your intent up high because anything that you see that, that stirs your interest pretty good chance it's a Super Super Bowl commercial. Mm-hmm. Yep Very good point. This one has a date but March 27th. Yeah still but still Alright, okay. Good job Hank. Good job, Hank My hot seat is saying it with your chest. Hmm So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday our good friend Peter Schreger on that show I love Peter Kyle Brandt friend of the program. We like Kyle Brant. He went on a little rant

about the Chiefs and the Bills and the reaction to the game and how there are all these people out there saying everybody wanted the Bills to do it for America, but let's not turn this into the Chiefs are some evil empire out there that is easy to root for and it's us against them and we don't want them to win no matter what. Kyle Brand also on Sunday put out a hype video for the game. I saw that. Yeah. Where he was literally Rocky as a Bills fan and Drago from Rocky IV were the Chiefs, the evil empire was literally the USSR.

Where was Drago from? Russia. He was from Russia. Yeah, USSR. And so he turned to, now he's saying like, don't act like you got a root against the Chiefs, and they're literally an evil empire, and you got to take down Big Red.

You just did that. Yeah. You just did that, Yeah. You just did that. Yeah. He made the hype video. It was a very well done video. And I understand that like Kyle, he's, he's not technically a Bills fan. He's like a, uh, you know, he's a hype guy for the Bills. Yeah. But still like you, you were actually doing that thing. Yeah. You were rooting for the Bills and also let people root against the chiefs if they want to. I couldn't agree more. I, and I also like, I don't care if you want to say, uh, I'm rooting for greatness. Like if you're not a chief fan, you're like, I'm rooting for grace. I respect greatness. That's cool by me. If you're just like, I

hate the chiefs. I fucking hate them. It's rigged. I don't like them. I hate Patrick Holmes. That's cool by me too. Everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root. Yeah. If you want to root against the chiefs because you think they are Satan, do it, do it, please. And shes fans don't get offended either. Yeah. Like you're winning. You shouldn't worry what other people think about your team. I think you're winning. I think Kyle tried to do the neat little pivot from Bill's super fan to Hey, Chiefs, I love you guys. Yeah. And that's a hard move to pull off. Yeah. No, I mean, the Chiefs discourse, like I just don't, if you hate the Chiefs,

you just hate the Chiefs. Now to be fair, maybe it was a bit because I was listening to it. I wasn't watching, maybe they were playing in the background, the Rocky montage that he did. That would be a bit. Yep. In which case, hand up, I got it wrong.

But if it's not, then now I feel like it's a different kind of bit. Yeah. I'll put my hand right upright. I'm not cashing out of my future with the Eagles. I will be rooting against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, but I also respect these greatness, but I'm rooting. I'm telling you right now I'm rooting against the Chiefs. I respect greatness. Unlike Big Cat. Are you going to be rooting for the Chiefs? I think I have to. I mean, if I didn't have this future,

I would be betting the Chiefs. I never wanted to root for the Eagles in that first Super Bowl big cat had literally $200,000 yeah that was a big I didn't want to be sitting next to him rooting for him to lose $200,000 I appreciate that so I bet eight grand on him lost that lost the doink bet to Hank I was getting rods from all angles again that week I did last year like the fans obviously are like you always root against us I bet on the Chiefs against the Texans I bet on the Chiefs a very big bet against them in the 49 in the Super Bowl last year remember

We're seeing the game cave I think was you Dave a couple other people were on the 49ers and I was just sitting there like I Got my homes. This is gonna be easy. I like it's gonna they're gonna win I might have to go back to the no doinks well I might it's gonna they're gonna win I might have to go back to the no doing swell Get my revenge on what I would say if I did 50 grand on no doings at minus 500. What does that pay out? Probably a lot Elliott's been so shaky Yeah, Elliott has been shaking you were gassing that Elliott up last week. I know cuz coach green told him I had to

Pft, I'll say this if if I weren't yeah, if I didn have this Eagles future, I'd probably just run back what I did last year because it was a very calming Super Bowl watch of being like, oh, but Mahomes. He's got me. We were just sitting there watching, like, yeah, but Mahomes is going to, he'll be fine. You know what? We'll figure it out. It's going to be in the fourth quarter and you'll be like, oh yeah, one team has Mahomes. NFL rigged, I think I'm just going to go with the rigged.

Yeah, do it. Why not? It's a decent watch. I'm betting on Undertaker at WrestleMania. Yeah, I'm one and one in the last two Chief Super Bowls. But wait, Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans. Yes, I was there. I was there.

Ooh, Max, that's good for you. How about that stat? That's good for you, Max. How about that stat? That's great stat, that's great stat. Okay, Max, that's good for you. How about that stat? That's good for you, Max. How about that stat? That's great stat. That's great stat. Okay, was it in your cool throne? My cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago.

This is also a fire fest, but I'm getting to it ahead of time. So I get home on Sunday night. I sent my laundry out this weekend because I ran out of clothes. I had jumpsuits I had to watch, et cetera, et cetera. Two giant, giant duff ran out of clothes. I had jumpsuits. I had to watch, et cetera, et cetera. Two giant, giant duffel bags of clothes. I get home. They had dropped it off on my porch. Somebody stole all my clothes. Imagine being that burglar and opening it

up and being like, what the fuck? Yeah. Not to brag, but I think I have a pretty Takis medium jumpsuit. Yeah so Some burglar went up to my house. They probably were thinking I'm gonna get some good clothes They stole these two huge fucking bags of clothes got him in their car. They're driving away like I made out like a bandit Let's open this up. There's probably gonna be Gucci in there. There's gonna be a Dolce & Gabbana They unzip it and they see six different Darius Rucker themed Washington commander shirts. It just, it's basically like the robbing a bank and having the ink blow up. Yeah. They blew up on all the jumpsuits that you had. Yeah. They actually did you

a favor if it was a lot of jumpsuits, just clean out for jumpsuit. There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was, it was pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen. So now I don't really have any clothes. I went out, I bought a bunch of socks. We could just, there's a loss in found at my kid's school. Yeah, I could just get you a new wardrobe tomorrow. You got any propeller beanies I can put on? Elementary school.

But now I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, this could be a good opportunity. I'm turning 40. Don't change. Could be time to start dressing like an adult. Oh, I'll be, this could be a good opportunity. I'm turning 40. Don't change. Could be time to start dressing like an adult. I'll be so mad at you if you change. You have a style. I was thinking about maybe getting some of the Tik Tok girls to give me fashion makeover. I think she dressed like high, like luxury. Like Joe burrow.

Like I turned into Joe burrow now. I can be down with that. I don't want you to just absolute like, yeah, I could be down for that. But I don't want you to just absolute like yeah Hearts I dress plain Hank dress dress plain you you got to be the one max memes we all fucking wear the same hoodies We need the guy who comes in is like hey you guys see this jumpsuit. It's got croissants all over this Feels like a great opportunity though to to to turn a page It's like the universe telling me maybe it's time to stop wearing f-15 onesies. No, but I would be supportive if you wanted to do like a full like assless suit like you. Yeah like turn into super super fashion. Did they have was the one jumpsuit that you look like a bunny

rabbit was that in there? was yeah, they saw my That's what I was really hoping is just right on top yeah first thing you see they That's what's made me not be that pissed off about it. It sucks to lose all your clothes obviously, but I can get over it Yeah, I might return it. I have well I the first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone I drove around my neighborhood Anticipating that they open it up saw what was in there and just threw it out their window first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood anticipating that they opened it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their window. Yeah.

And they were like, fuck this. That's so funny. So yeah, maybe I'll just do the fact, I think I might try the fashion makeover. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh man, I would love to get, listen, if you're an AWL and you're listening to this

and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits in commander's gear. No penalty. No, no crime will be committed. We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag. Maybe just return it so we know it's you with like a long note. Yeah.

Just saying like, when I opened this bag, I was disgusted. And it made me change my whole life and realize I need to get on the straight and narrow. Yeah, maybe they learned a lesson. Crime doesn't pay. That's so funny. All right, my hot seats, I got two. One is Jalen Milrow and hand sizes being back, because Jalen Milrow has insanely small hands.

What are they? Eight and 3 fourths inches. To put it into perspective It would be the smallest hands of any first-round quarterback ever taken and in 2022 only one starting NFL QB had his hand size under nine inches at nine inches and it was Taysom Hill Yeah, not good, especially because Jalen Milro also does things like throw interceptions and Not Especially because Jalen Milrow also does things like throw interceptions and Not Throw to the open guys. Yeah, that's able to throw that's a very small hand

I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that. Yeah. Yeah. No, thanks Got tiny hands. Yeah little hands little guy. I have big hands Um, oh actually have three hot seats What did you see when like when Josh Allen fumbled that ball? He knows fingers just picked it up. Yeah off the ground just palmed it. I was a pig snag Yeah, like a vacuum cleaner. There's a snarf hands means something. Yeah, actually, you know, I'll switch one to a cooltor So my other hot seat is Archie Miller Archie Miller head coach of the University of Rhode Island Andre the giant did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference now? I have to defend Archie Miller in the fact that I also. Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference? Now, I have to defend Archie Miller

in the fact that I also get got a lot. But Archie Miller was doing a press conference after a game talking about what's the toughest league in the country. You want to play the press conference? Here you go. Here was his quote. The day, the SEC is the best league in the country,

but in all games they're like 54 and 54. Somebody said that I don't know if that's even accurate but like do you know how hard it is in every league you know to win you know it's just hard to win any game. So the problem with that is Archie Miller is quoting I kind of find the guy account. I apologize to him. I'll shout him out. Does he have it there? Shout out that guy. He tweeted something that was it was basically joking He was just saying oh the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country Well, why are they 54 and 54 since January 4th? obviously a joke because it's all conference play and then Archie Miller went and took that stat

and used it in a press conference. Yeah, because there's some bad teams that are at the bottom. 54 and 54. And when you lose to a good team, the good team gets a win but you get a loss. Just very funny, be like, I saw somewheres 54 and 54 and so that must, that's crazy. Yeah, the NFL was 500 this year.

Yeah. As a league. The league is down. It's not getting done. For anyone who says the 500 this year. Yeah as a league the league is down It's not getting done anyone who says the league is down. There it is. Yeah, he's down technically how many games gets Is it always finished? Oh, no. No, I'm stupid. There's one. Yeah, the super. No, i'm an idiot I was like, oh, yeah, but the super is a standalone game. Yep. I'm a moron Uh, I just heard she millered myself But yeah, shout out the guy who I guess you could say like got him got one conference Ends up with a slightly better record. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was not the Stephen Che thing He did a prediction for the whole league. No, but he did it wrong off by

Because his predictions weren't game by game They were just I think that this team is gonna win their division with 13 wins This team's gonna have 10 this team's gonna wins. This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have nine. No, but he did the whole data thing. Yeah. And I went game by game, but it was impossible. Oh, I found the treat.

Jacob Pickle. Great. Jacob Pickle. Shout out Jacob Pickle. He said, wow, the best conference in the history of college basketball is 54 and 54 since January 4th. ESPN once again showing their SEC bias for some teams that can't even get above 500.

That's great. And then Archie Miller went and used it. Good job, Jacob Pickle. Shout out Pickle07. Also great username there. My cool throne, I have two. one is our guy tailgate Ted so he actually hit us up PFT and was like thank you guys for the shout out and He has a if you go online he has he's trying to raise money for lung cancer lung cancer Against our researcher. Yeah research So shout out tailgate Ted if you can donate to the go fund me feels like he's he's handled it all very well Like he was obviously made fun of on the internet a little bit lost a big game He's turning it all into a positive seems like a genuinely good, dude And you always have the hard rock the hard rock the hard rock when all else fails like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin

Put your picture up on the wall the hard rock Yeah, Ted will just get back to hard rock and he'll just be around his people He does seem like a good guy He also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an internet flash point, there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say. Yeah. He's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it.

Yeah, no, it's going to be a while. With these future statements. It's going to last for a little bit. Yeah. So everyone, his Twitter username is Tailgate Ted. He's got the links there. So shout out shout him and then my cool throne is Max and the Philadelphia 76ers

For not posting about the Eagles. Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seat or cool tone That makes sense Josh Harris. Well not not really Not really every other team in Philadelphia posted about that post about the game the Sixers went Radio sign kind of a salty move by Josh Harris like the Sixers are Philadelphia You have to separate those two and also what would be Philadelphia on the Sixers or does Josh Harris well I mean the people I mean the people kind of there's another thing. It's their team Jeffrey Laurie wants to buy that wants to buy the Celtics. Yeah But what uh, but hey, what would it hurt Josh Harris for the Sixers to just be like good job Eagles on their Twitter account

That's one of those moves like you just have to just ignore it because if you don't it's a strides and effect You're not gonna they don't post it and then everyone's like you're salty petty bitch Maybe he is he probably is which I'm fine with that, but just dude who cares I think let him post if they had posted it. We would also talk about that on this show. I don't think so Yeah, no way. I don't think anyone notices those posts Max would definitely be like out your owner. Just congratulate the birds There's there's no way I would have known. Yeah, you would. Yeah, you would. The only reason is because people were going to all of the, every other team in Philly posted about it. The water dogs posted it.

Shout out to water dogs. Shout out to water dogs. Yeah, you're an owner of the water dogs. Wow. How about that? Bigger man than Josh Harris. That is true, bigger man than Josh Harris. Way to go, Max.

That's how you fight back. I didn't even think about that when I said that but yep I decide to put you know, my my business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team. I just more like There's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own like it's Josh Harris even on Twitter No, I don't think so. A lot of people are saying Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently They they point it at what's happening with the commanders and they say he doesn't care about the Sixers all this stuff Mmm feels like that's not six or suck in the command. Although the sixers did just beat the Cavs It is crazy to like when you own multiple teams

I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time where if one of them's not good Everyone's like why aren't you making that team good? Yeah, because they're like, you don't, we're not your priority anymore. I just, I, there's no way he, by not posting it, you're just like, Oh, he's bothered. Yeah. That's my only point. Yeah. The, the commanders are to Josh Harris. That's Baron. The Sixers are like Eric and then the devils are like Don Jr. If you want to put in trump terms. Yeah, yeah, you got that Sure, I don't know. I don't understand what also. I only found out about this because Max came up to me He's like she just sure she didn't post this yeah. Well. Yeah, it was Matt

Yeah, you so you actually care about like now. I'm back on PFT side because like you can't actually Be like why the fuck having the sixers post what they well no no no I didn't know about it until other people were Talking about it and then although realistically. I think it's probably like the social media manager who was who was like I'm just not gonna post about this because I don't know if my boss Yeah, there's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris's desk. I I assume that's probably what it was Yeah, yeah, I don't want my boss mad at me, correct Yeah And honestly like fair play to both sides because if he had posted that from the Sixers

Then I would have been like what the fuck dude like his his fans in DC would be mad or his fans in Philly We've been would be mad if he doesn't post it You know what he should have done is he should have just posted from the Sixers account good season commanders you just ran into a better team. Like compliment the commanders and be like, but the six, the Eagles are a better team. Like this shit happens. That's what sports are. Are the NFC East once again representing the NFC in the Superbowl.

Congrats. NFC Beast the Super Bowl congrats NFC beast Yep, I have C beast and I've C piece today. They have not because usually teams will get bullied into this They have not updated it. Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl? They got to right if they win Yeah, yeah, they got you also the real if they lose and they post something that'd be very funny that yeah Now that would be funny. Yeah, they're like, oh, so close. Great season guys. Nothing to be ashamed of. So close. Basically like you didn't win a playoff game. Yeah. If you don't win the whole thing. All right, let's get to, uh, I guess it falls on our shoulders now. Let's get to JOC. We got our, uh, exit interview with him about the fantasy football season and what our strategy is going

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All right. It is Jerry O'Connell in studio. There's no one that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I say when I texted him, I was like, hey, we want to have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything. He just said, OK, what day works? And I was expecting to be Zoom. And he's like, all right, uh, I'm going to land in Chicago at 7am. Then I'm going to fly back out at three o'clock. Um, that's what you do for us. Yeah. You came

in, you have the briefcase. Oh yeah. What's, what was the flight? What's the flight schedule today? Uh, flight schedule was I flew out last night at 11 PM, landed five something. Okay. Went to, it's great. They're a partner, went to Planet Fitness. You should have just come here to our new gym. I should have, yeah. We have a Planet Fitness right here.

Yeah, I would have come here. It's just like, Hank is like all oiled up and stuff and like waiting on the squat rack and you got to go in the locker room with him and he's like, you want to do a steam and you're like, no man. Yeah. And he's like watching you and then I didn't bring shower shoes. There's no way I'm going in that shower barefoot. Yeah. Yeah. So I just went to my PF, man. You went to your PF. Yeah. And then you went and got a breakfast. Yeah. I got a breakfast here on the corner. And then when do you fly back?

I fly back today at 3 p.m. There it is. My daughters have a volleyball practice tonight and I've got to go watch them not start and not play well and act like I'm involved. So that's a nice quick John out here. Did you stop at any apartments that you've been looking at? Cause Jerry always sends us apartments usually on Chicago's gold

coast. He's like, Hey, look what you can buy here. So funny. My algorithm is so crazy. By the way, um, shout out to all the algorithms out there. They've really got it figured out. Shout out the algorithms. Um, red note. My algorithm is, um, well, I mean, first and foremost, it's usually like, uh, big tits. I've actually, I don't know if you do this, but I, uh, cause the algorithm always works. And if you click on it, if you, if you watch the video, they'll give you more of that. So I always make sure that I watch the big tits. So now it's pretty much only big tits. Yeah. It is just, um, it is a little, it gets a little awkward because I have, you know, two teenage kids and a wife. And if you say anything like, Oh, Hey, look at this text that's

so and so sent. And it's Instagram that usually comes up. And I'm always like, Whoa, what is this? I'm not following them. What is this? Oh, Zuckerberg. But it's that a lot of it lately has been Josh Allen crossing an imaginary first down line on that fourth downplay. I don't know if it heard me talking about it. It's in my thoughts.

I mean, I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it. I've just been thinking about it a lot because I live at home with my wife and daughters and I'm the only one who watches football so I have no one to talk to about it. So I haven't even been like saying anything out loud. It's just, it's been feeding me that. And finally, what it gives me is moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area. They are great deals. Yeah.

I must have clicked on one and sent it to you guys. And now it's my thing. Oh, also I have other algorithms like I have a Giants friend and anytime there's a Giants meme or anything You know a lot of stuff with Daniel Jones wearing his helmet on backwards I don't know if you saw that one. Yeah, it is like I said him that Jets me I have a few Jets friends that I send Jets memes to and I Mean we should talk more and I could send you some commanders memes and some bears means. Yeah, that'd be great You said you have free reign to send any tax You know, it's funny

I do I don't send you guys many sports memes because I'm sure by the time I've seen it It's been sent to you 1 million times. So I try I try not to waste your time I do have a texting relationship with both of you and I don't try to abuse it I try to send you interesting things. And you also have a texting relationship now with Max, Memes, and Pug. You got the whole, you basically asked for all the numbers and you've been texting with it. I almost just threw you into the part where I take group texts.

No, no, I haven't quite made it to that sort of yet. It would turn to green. Yeah, it would go green and also we'd be talking about what dinners were gonna get a lot and you'd be jealous Wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that group Text and being the only green bubble just a fuck with them. Yeah, I think it was a 15 person group chat I tossed Jerry in it immediately turned to the green bubble and everybody was like who the fuck is this this? And Jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos. Yeah. And started sending shirtless pictures to the chat. Yep. You took it upon yourself to organize the draft order by taking names I've had while shirtless. Well, we were a week away from our draft and we still did not have a draft order. So I made a video of myself

doing the draft order. And if you recall, there was a controversy, as they say in England, a controversy, where we got the first pick. Yeah. And everyone said I cheated. Yeah. And I was actually upset that we got the first pick because you gotta take Christian McCaffrey

and thank goodness. Yeah. Thank goodness they just went to some random pickinator to redo the draft because we would have been fucked hard. Yeah. It started with a bang. I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get-go, but then after like one, two, three months, they grew to love Jerry. And now Jerry is like the unofficial mascot of that fantasy league, which it goes to show, if you keep Jerry around long enough,

you're gonna end up loving him. Yeah, guys, I really, I feel like I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our league. Like I really dropped the ball for you guys. I lost by, for those who don't know, I posted a few times on X. We lost in the game that would have taken us to the championship by 0.10 points. 0.10.

And that's on the manager. You know it is on me. It's on the manager. I got to tell you, hand up, I take full responsibility. I never admitted this to you and I'm gonna say it now. At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight up trade. Max, you listening? Max? Yes, I'm listening, I'm listening.

We were offered a trade straight up, AJ Brown, we had Joe Mixon and I turned it down. And that is why we lost. Um, I don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed. He had single digit scoring weeks, week after week after week, and you have to start Joe Mixon. And, you know, I'm not defending myself here, but in my defense, um, you know,

AJ Brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines. He was reading self-help books in between plays. I just thought the Eagles were gonna eagle, and I didn't want any part of that. And that was my mistake. And I want to apologize to your faces. Okay. I appreciate it. I feel a little bit like John Marra.

That... Sorry, what were you gonna say? I just said, I feel a little bit like John Marra. Where it's like, I'm gonna kill myself if AJ Brown beats us. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm doing this right now. Is it fair to say Jerry, you're, you're, you're not on the hot seat, but people are asking if you're on the hot seat. I think, yeah, I don't even think it's a hot seat. I think people are saying maybe he needs like, you know, when a coach, uh, Nathaniel Hackett, when he was at the Broncos, he had to bring in a clock manager.

Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be like a senior analyst that can, at least you can talk things through with them. Uh, when you're worried about a trade or a starter sit, just, just an old head that maybe, maybe it's been through the wars that can give you some advice. Uh, that's just been thrown out there. Yeah. Not, not anybody that's above you, but just, you know, somebody that you can, you can ask questions. Well, they would, that person, if we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us. Right. Um, And Jerry would have to report to them. But again, not above you.

I would like to remain calling all the plays. Okay. I feel that responsibility should be mine. I'm a coach of men. Wait, what did Siri say? Leader of men. I'm a leader of men. And I think I can handle it.

I just wanna say for the record, two years ago we made it to the finals and we lost and this year we came in third. So I mean, I mean like, I mean like Josh Allen just, just defended his coach. Yeah, I know. But questions are happening with Sean McDermott. It's like, have you, has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since tomorrow? Have you been the same fantasy manager since tomorrow? I want to say for those who don't recall, we went to the championship, uh, the week that, uh, Demar Hamlin, say it almost died. Prayers for tomorrow. Prayers for tomorrow. Went down and we were losing by just a few points and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks be a part of our total score the next week and we lost. Look, you know what? I realized that my job is on the line here.

No, no, no, no. Listen, we didn't want this to be an accusatory. It's not an intervention. We just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization. When we lose in the playoffs, we have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process. Is the process what we want it to be? Because the standard that we have as an organization, it couldn't be Yeah, and it standard is said anything less than championship, right? We don't want we don't think about that our goal is to win championships here and I'll speak on behalf of big cat

We're giving you a vote of confidence. Mm-hmm. You're your manager. You are our manager. You're a manager whether we add a general manager Who knows but what would you say the standard is? Uh, the standard is I know, no, no, already missed it. He already fucked it up. What is the standard, Jerry? Championship. No, Jerry, what is the standard? The standard. What is it?

What is the standard? The standard is winning. No, so close. Your standard is defeat is impossible. Just repeat it. The standard is the standard. Got it. All right. That's our guy. I don't like how long you know what you were called to guys. I don't know how long I don't like how long it took to get there. Okay. Let me go through. I did some research. I have a fantasy recap and what we might do next season. Is it okay if I go through that and then you can, I had a question for you before we go

through that. Sure. It's not the road back question. No, it's not the robot question. Is your wife ever going to follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us and she doesn't follow us. That's a, that's a, I'm just saying like locker room culture. I went and looked in the last four tweets are directly at me and PFT. And she does not fall us back. Her, one of her tweets, our daughter just sent me this video. She was simply doing her homework on a Sunday night. They don't know who DAC is. This is Jerry's erratic behavior. I was talking about on your sports podcast. Also there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving. What is happening? PFT and big cat. Jerry will only talk about benching

Laporta. It's bombing everyone out. Happy Thanksgiving. And then she said, so happy. Pardon my take fantasy football season is over. Big cat and PFT, Jerry's torture on Sundays. And do you know why? Because he sucks at it. Loser get a new manager. This is your wife, Superbottle, by the way, who is calling you a loser and asking us to fire you. Is that winning culture? Listen, I don't, I'm not in charge of her socials. You know, I'm not that ingrained in her career. It's not like a Blake Lively Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the two of us. We do our own thing. But my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow

someone you can DM someone. And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image. I don't think that's what we said. Over and over and over. I don't think that's what we said. I said I loved her in the swimsuit issue. Yeah. Absolutely loved her. Yeah, but then you did the weird like lip, you like licked your lips and stuff.

I don't think I licked my lips. We just said that her swimsuit issue was a very big part of our childhood. I became a man. Yeah. Yeah, but I would, there, right there. I'm saying that's, that's saying that's that you're doing that. You masturbated to my wife.

And why would my wife follow you? No, I'm saying she I grew up. Yeah, that could be watching her. I could be learning how to drive a car. It could be a bar mitzvah. That'd be Kinsan Yara. There's a lot of things that becoming a man is. Yeah. But why? You know, my wife for decades has dealt with like weirdos and creeps like and I guess what I will

Point us out to him. We'll handle him for her Like is jerry bothering you rebecca? We'll help you I will talk to her about following you. I'm sorry. I didn't know that you weren't being followed also. It's okay It's okay, but she's listen. She listen she is I would say the perfect example of Our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager. So we want to hear from the fans Okay, maybe we need to do a Jerry con where we invite all the fans and they can tell us face to face Hey, here's the problem with his fantasy managing because we answer to the fan Jerry

Let me just ask you this stand by me yeah great film thank you classic how would you describe that what is what is the genre of film that is a buddy a coming of age film exactly interesting Rebecca Romaine was a coming of age thing for me making I understand what you're using the word coming. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, listen, let me get to my fantasy preview for you. What I can do for you as a manager, I know you're thinking about bringing someone else in. I don't wanna bring anyone else in. I think I can handle all the play calling duties. Let me just give you the research I've done based on the 2024, 25 season and what we have to look forward to.

Okay, you have that. Yeah, this is basically, yeah, this is our exit interview after a tough season. What it is. That's what they do. It every team does this. After the season's over, all the players meet with the coach and the GM talk about, hey, what, where, what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at?

Is this a performance improvement plan? Yeah, it's not. No, no, no. That we only have. We only have one of those that we're allowed to use. And it's currently being used It's like a franchise tag. We're currently using on memes. So we the PIP can't be passed around like that Okay, let me let me go through my preview. Okay, so the exit interview, you're not exiting What would you say you do here Jerry I

Didn't know that Joe Mixon. I mean, that's also just that's a transparency issue. Because we find out. Yeah, like the athletic is going to do a story about this being like inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the part might take fantasy league and be like Jerry O'Connell turned down AJ Brown for Joe Mixon. And that's where the season that's where he lost. Because imagine if you're AJ Brown or sorry, if you're Joe Mixon and you know, the Jerry is shopping you, how do you, how do you go play ball after that?

It'd be tough. It would be tough. And you said that his, his, his season took a downturn major right after you had him on the trade block. He, he actually fucked us. He fucked us out of, uh, out of, out of winning the whole thing. Oh guys, you want to see my plan of fitness shorts? I was in sort of a rush. I had to go with the jorts today. Oh nice. Are those the Bing Bong jorts? Oh man, how about Mr. Bing Bong?

Can you believe I was in standby me? I was in Jerry Maguire. And currently the thing I'm most known for is Mr. Bing Bong. I can't wait for NBA playoffs. We got to bring him back. All right. Here we go. This is our fantasy recap exit interview. You don't like that word, but that's what they use. I don't like it. Let's start with the AFC North. Let's start with the Bills. That was a bummer this weekend. Wait. Oh no. Hold on. Time out. Big cat. Um, I think we need to get somebody that, sorry, sorry, sorry. AOC. I, I feel like that was a type.

I feel like Jill Biden now. I have to be like, no, he's fine. He's of sound mind and body. He can still do this job. Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help decision making? No, but actually, sometimes when I gamble, I look at fantasy defenses, how they're going to perform. And I was always looking for a system with gambling. Yeah. And I thought, oh, what if I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet whoever the the the team that that defense bet against the team that that defense is playing and it didn't work it

wasn't a system okay I know that brick is a listener this podcast yeah brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with Jerry yeah no don't do it to me guys oh he knows inside and outs of a NFL franchise don't do okay okay where are we starting AFC East. Got it. Let's start with the Bills. Their receivers have been a total bummer this season. I mean, Khalil Shakir is their number one receiver.

Omari Cooper, they got hosed by the Browns, man. That was a bad trade. Kinkade has been a bummer. Of course, Josh Allen is a stud. Of course, James Cook, man, he was possessed. So good. On Sunday. Led the league with TDs? 16.

But nobody else. Cooper was weird because it looked like it was going to be a good trade right at the start. And then nothing, nothing. He had one game against Tennessee. Yeah, but nothing. And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend. All right, let's go to Miami. I want to apologize to you guys also for not making that that AJ Brown trade, but also I did not see John Smith this season. And that's something if you are managing a fantasy team, you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top five in their position. That's that might even been a waiver wire.

It may have been. I just didn't see him. And I apologize. It was too late. What happened with our wire this week or this year? Did we make any big pickups? Uh, we, um, you know, Jaylen Warren was a waiver wire pickup. Um, I don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire. Um, cause that's do not recall that. Please note it in the exit interview. That's a big thing. I do not recall that big can I have like Belichick?

It's like the undrafted free agents. That's where you win. Yeah, and your his answer was I do not do not recall not important Okay But you know what Tyreek waddle into a A-chan is of course is Incredible but I gotta tell you my problem with Miami Your head coach incredible, but I got to tell you my problem with Miami. Your head coach can't shiver on a sideline. That's not allowed. And I got to, I'm not even making a joke here.

Like refugees shiver, like dogs that don't have homes. Oh, by the way, Max way to be congrats on Nola Max thank you, Jerry Billy whatever. Yeah, no, like Billy. Yeah, no law Rescue dogs shiver. Yeah, you know head coaches can't shift our national television It's why I like a fat coach. Yeah. You have a good layer of insulation. Um, by the way, I think Tyree kill is going to go to Washington.

You think so? Oh, interesting. I think Josh Harris is going to pay that 27 million and it's going to open everything up. And I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah. Uh, he's a great player. He's still really, really good. I just don't know. You got to take a gamble on his, uh, you know, some of the off the field stuff. Uh, I think, uh, I think coach Quinn can handle it.

Okay. I think that'd be fun. Uh, the jets, uh, means, are you there? Hello. Um, none of them ever again. Yeah. Again. Um, I think this team this last season is going to be studied, uh, for what not

to do, um, by the way, this is part of my take, we have to have takes. Uh, I think the problem is Aaron. Okay. I think he's the problem. And I, and I'm going to tell you why. I told you I have teenage daughters. They're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home, young men, and I make them say hello to me and I shake their hand and I go, hello, nice to meet you. I'm their father. And I look them in the eye. I looked them in the eye to look for,

to see if they're druggies. And I gotta tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes. He looks like a druggie. And I know this, cause I'm dealing with young men all the time. And I look at them and I'm like, is this a druggie? Is this a druggie? You're a druggie, get them out of here.

Aaron Rodgers just has dr druggy eyes to me. And you know what? You don't want that around brick. We mentioned brick impressionable. Oh, I, my jets buddy memes. Are you still there? Still here. My jets buddy. I think suggesting fields is going to come to the jets. Interesting. Yeah. I got a name for you. Okay. What about Derek Carr? That's a good name. Yeah, it's a good name. I just, this season really, you're just off quarterbacks. This season with him, I, I'm just not feeling it. I, I, I know he's a friend of the show. I listened to his interview. It was,

it was, it was a great interview. Um, these must, he looks good, good arms, definitely works arms, no druggy eyes, maybe Prozac guys. He's got the mascara. He's got beautiful eyes. He's, he's a, he's got pretty dreamy eyes. Yeah. Um, no, I do think, I do think Aaron Rogers will go to, I think he'll go to Tennessee. That-hmm. That's kind of perfect for him I could see that happening. Yeah, maybe the Browns maybe the Steelers maybe All right, the Patriots Hank. Are you there? Yeah

Hank Man, can you believe that? People actually get nervous when I'm about to talk about their memes? Yeah, give your final judgment. Yeah. I can't believe it actually matters. Oh, memes hate you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets.

Yeah. Listen, memes, I'm a Jets fan. It's gotta be said. Sorry, memes. You didn't have a coach all season. See, he's mad. Also, Devonte Adams and Gary Wilson, you should take them. Hey, you know what? I want to ask you memes Aaron Rodgers. See you've drug guys

Yeah, he's a full-blown drug addict He had the second best season in the franchise history top five quarterback top five quarterback was top five everything Hank yeah We're gonna draft Drake May next season. Wow. We're going to draft him. Let me tell you, Josh McDaniels, Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2.0. Wow.

Doug Morrone now, too. I got to tell you, Hunter Henry, Hank, you're back. Not only that, I think that's the first time that's ever been said. Hunter Henry, you're back. Hey, Hank're back. Not only that. I think that's the first time that's ever been said. Hunter Henry, you're back. Hank is back. You guys are picking fourth? Yeah. All right, let me say this.

New York shitball giants pick third. If they pass on Travis Hunter, the Giants, and the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter, the Giants, and the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter. I will be so, because then we have a, we have a Hank problem for years to come if that happens. Yeah. So we come, then he becomes Hank becomes Hunter Henry at that point. It's so scary. Um, oh, but you know what? I think you should. Um, the Giants should take Travis Hunter.

I think you guys, a four should reach for that. I'm going to mispronounce his name. Ted, Ted McMillan, Ted Toria. Oh, from Arizona. Yeah. The awesome wide wide receiver. Ted Toria. Somebody help me look it up.

Max, you're good with accents. You're good with accents. You're good with names. Ted. Max? You can just call him Ted. That's what I've been saying. No, I wanna say his full name.

Look it up. Ted. Ted Tatoria. Ted. His name's Ted. Ted. Ooh. His name's Ted.

Good one, Hank. Tatoria. Tatara. Good one, Hank. Tehtoria. Tehtara. Come on, Max. Guys. Give it one shot, Max. Go for it. Tehtiroa.

T-Mac. Tehtiroa. Tehtiroa. Tehtiroa. Tehtiroa. Tehtiroa. Teht. All right, T-Mac.

I think you should draft T-Mac in that fourth spot. You should reach for it. But Hank, right, TMac. I think you should draft TMac in that fourth spot. You should reach for it. But Hank, great job, man. I mean it. Really good job. Thank you. OK, we're going to get back to Jerry O'Connell in a second. But does everyone know what time it is?

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Yep. Okay, the Chiefs, it's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year. You know what? I know Mahomes had big games, that Carolina game, that Tampa game, a couple others, Houston, Pittsburgh, but he had kind of a blah season. He didn't, this is a fantasy recap. Obviously they had a winning record. This isn't about records. This is about fantasy.

Everyone on that team had a blah season and watching them these last few weeks, I have a feeling these old heads wait till the playoffs to start playing. Like watching Travis Kelsey, it's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend. And that's not what we care about. You know, like we want regular, we want weeks one through 17. I have a non fantasy question. Okay. Um, obviously Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld, Steinfeld getting Steinfeld Haley, Haley Steinfeld, Tettoria. Yeah. Uh, get engaged. Um, do, uh, do a Travis, uh, does, uh, Travis and Taylor, do they feel that? I think they, I think she's waiting to propose to him.

I think her fans would be like, how dare, how dare Travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that. Well, isn't she sort of like, uh, I don't want to put anyone inside of a, like, uh, I don't want to cage anybody into their artistic boundaries. I don't want to give anyone artistic boundaries, but isn't she sort of a mainstream, like, aren't we waiting for like a formal like engagement from them? Like, yeah, isn't that informal if the woman is engaging, sorry to be, uh,

well, I guess I was just, I was thinking, uh, somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on Sunday, what if at the end of the Super Bowl, Confetti coming down, Travis Kelce gets on a knee and proposes to Taylor Swift? And we were saying that the Swifties would not like that. No. Because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment. So what if she proposed to him at the Grammys or at her big,

like a big concert that she was at. That to me feels like that's, that might be the way that relationship's going. Yeah. AMAs, Grammys. Yeah. Then they just become essentially the king and queen of America at that point. Wow. Like they become the tar, the, the number one tabloid story. Yeah. What are Travis and Taylor doing today? There's gotta be pressure. Oh, they're there. They're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings and you know what? He's just giving her a friendship bracelet. Like one of those concert, what do you call them? A friendship bracelet? Yeah. What do they give each other?

Yes. A swift, yeah, friendship bracelet. Friendship bracelet. Yeah. It better be the best ring ever. Gotta be. Ever. All right. So yeah, none of the chiefs swing ever. Gotta be. Ever. All right, so yeah, none of the chiefs. Okay, Chargers. Oh, you know what guys, I wanna thank you. In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Lad McConkey. Yeah.

And you were right. That's how you win fantasy. He was a 10th round draft pick for us. So let's see the most important pick that our team made. Me and Big Cat actually made that pick. And he just said that's how you win fantasy and we didn't win anything. Not winners.

Sounds like the standard is just getting into the playoffs. Just writing that down. Hey, you know what? Pardon my take, Gotta have a take Justin Herbert for fantasy reasons kind of sucks. He's yeah, they ran the ball a lot He's not really gonna work for us. I gotta tell you too about the Chargers that Quinton Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo. Mm-hmm The circumstances I think it was was a fourth it was third or fourth down. They needed it. It was against Baltimore, right? It hit him in the hands and he dropped it. That was some, that was some, remember Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone? That was some butt fumble. Yeah. That was some Cody Parky double doink. That was like, I can't look at that franchise for a few years

after that drop. It's just one of those. It's fair. Oh, Naji Harris might go there. That would be interesting. That would be interesting. Um, possible landing spot for Tyreek, but other than Ladd, we're not touching anybody. Um, let's go to Denver. Okay. I have a kind of a take with Denver. Denver gets T Higgins or Stefan Diggs. Courtland Sutton and Bo Nicks are must drafts. Their defense, we played them so much this season. They're awesome. They could in that draft reach for that Matthew Golden guy, that tall Texas wide receiver. Denver's running game, we're not touching it. Gervonta is old. Please don't tell me. Audrick Estimé is good. But if they get T. Higgins, Bo Nicks, Cortland Sutton, must drafts.

Okay. So you think that if they get another really good receiver, then their number one receiver gets better. Yes. Yes. Or their number, or we go with whoever their number two, two receiver is, but they, they just, I, I have a theory and fantasy that you need, you need that Addison to help Jefferson. You need that Jefferson to help Addison.

It opens it up and people score more points. I mean, point, look at the lions this season. They all opened it up for everybody. You know? Yeah. I do think that Bownex is going to have a great year next year. Yeah. Have you seen the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking

about the play calls that they have to learn and how long they are? They go on for like 15 seconds. Sometimes you have to tell everybody on the offense, what you're doing on that play, and then also throw in, okay, here's what we're going to check to in case they blitz the fact that Bo Nicks played that well, his rookie year and Sean Payton season, I think he's going to be great in the second year. I like it. Um, okay.

Let's go to the Raiders. I don't know what's going to happen there. Now, if they get Shador, okay, which they're saying they may trade up for to get Shador, they may trade with the Titans. That's a possibility. Then I have to tell you, Jacobi Myers and Bowers become must drafts. Love that. If Russell Wilson is their quarterback, I'm not even going to watch, I'm not going to watch a Raiders game. Not only am I not gonna draft anyone, because they're typically afternoon games because they're West Coast,

I may not watch afternoon games. Yeah season. Yeah If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders if Pete Carroll does that To the Raiders fans I Want nothing to do with the Raiders, okay fair. Yeah. Oh speaking of Russell Wilson AFC North Steelers Steelers are in the AFC North Yes, Correct. Um, man, like that Seahawks defense, you know what Richard Sherman, Richard Sherman was right. They carried Russell Wilson into the playoffs. Don't you ever talk about me? Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was at that game. I was. Oh, really? Yeah. Um, sorry, receiver like crab tree. was at that game. I was, Oh really? Yeah. Um, sorry. Receiver like crab tree. Um, man, the Steelers aren't for years of hurt.

Yeah. It's just, it's going to be years. It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad. Oh, but you know what? I will say, uh, from a fantasy standpoint, Naji Harris leaving Jalen Warren becomes a must draft. Good running back. Oh, George Pickens. Maybe the commanders? I don't know about that. Why? That'd be awesome. He's... I love watching George when he's on a different team. Okay. Hank? Hank? Hank? Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, George Pickens to the Patriots. Well, you don't think that coach Rabel can straighten him out?

I don't know if anyone could straight down George Pickens. He's so good though. Yeah, but he's not, but he's so good, but he's also not. All right. Uh, Ravens, AFC North, right? Yep. Um, no, man, you know what? I missed not drafting Zay Flowers, fellas. That was on me. You know, I work with a guy who told me once

Zay Flowers was small and it was just in my head. That happens. It just gets in your head, you know? You get it taken, it's hard to get off it. But you know what? I gotta say, man, I gotta pay you guys a compliment. When I came in here with my preview, you said draft Derrick Henry

because he's gonna look good in a Ravens uniform. Yeah. And you were right. Yeah, he looks really good in a Ravens uniform. He looked big, strong. Let me ask you something. If you were in an executive position in the NFL. Yeah.

If you were making decisions about players in the NFL. The answer's yes. And you used these rules. Yes. You know what? He would look good. Yeah, we'd be good in a uniform. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that would uniforms are 50% of the game, but do you think that sort of thinking would make for, do you think vibes? Yeah. Oh yeah. You got to go off vibes sometimes. Like you look at the Photoshop of a guy and you think, okay, what if, for example, what if Tom Brady was a Tampa Bay Buccaneer?

That looks good. Derrick Henry as a cowboy doesn't really look as good. No. Yeah, you guys were wrong. I think he said Andy Dalton was gonna be a good bear. He was gonna look good as a bear. Well, listen, Andy Dalton, he did the new hair. So that was, yeah.

Maybe it wouldn't work. I also love Derrick Henry's new hair. So that was, maybe it wouldn't work. I also loved Derek Henry's new hair. Yeah. He goes even higher, I think, on my board next year. We are definitely, if they're around, gonna draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews. That man is gonna be on a mission. He's on a mission. He's got months to just sit at home and think about it.

What a bummer. No, that was so funny when you posted the photo on X of Stavi, I'm not gonna say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth. Yeah. You posted that photo and I remember looking at it and being like, whoa, I can't believe they're posting that. That's not good.

And then I watched it. Yeah. None of it was in there. He was down bad. That was funny. The Bengals, man, I gotta say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown. I didn't. The more I go through this, there's a lot of misses. It sounds like us under the

bus. Sounds like we drafted a perfect team. You were right about chase Brown. I missed on that one. Um, uh, cause second kind of sucked, you know, T Higgins, wherever he does go, something to think about the last two seasons, he's missed 10 games. So that's something to think about when drafting him. Obviously all the, all the Bengals they're great. And you know what? I think they're going to, I think that Al Golden guy was their new defensive coordinator.

Yeah. I don't know anything about him, but he looks like a football. He's a good defensive coach. Do you think that with T. Higgins maybe he missed some of the games because he was thinking about getting a big contract? Protecting himself. No I think some players just get injured more often. Yeah. Browns. This is interesting. If the Browns draft Cam Ward, I think the Browns have the second, if they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must draft for us. Okay. If the Browns, because coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins offensive coordinator, if Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns, If Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns,

Jerry Judy will be a must draft. Wow. Ford and Chubb, we're not drafting them. But if they get a quarterback, Cam or Kirk, Draft Jerry Judy. We're drafting Jerry Judy. And when Chubb, when he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited and it's always the guy that you don't

have. Always. Exactly. Bummer. AFC South is dead to in, hey Max? Max? Max? Here, here, present. What's the Italian American term? It's the malocchio. It's the malocchio. It's like the curse, right? Maloic? Yep. Malocchio sounded right to me. It's Melokio, I think it is. It's like the curse. Yeah. Titoria. Titoria. Titoria McMillan. Titor, we gotta get that. I want to apologize to Mr. McMillan, T-Mac.

I'm sorry. Once we get it, we'll get it. But the Melokio, the AFC South just has the Melokio. C.J. Stroud, let's start with the Texans. What a bummer, man, what a bummer. I gotta tell you, Anthony Richardson, I believe was more successful than CJ Stroud this season. I'm sorry, I know CJ.

In terms of fantasy points, possibly. I don't even care about fantasy points. Just in terms of expectations. That's a take. I like that take. That's a take. I'd like you to go on on that take. That's quite a take.

Yeah, please continue. Just in terms of expectations, CJ Stroud was a possible like super bowl contender and he did not have a good season. Um, you know, I know I have a bad taste in my mouth because of Joe Mixon and that trade and how the Texans finished their season. Look, Nico's great, I get it. Tank, get well soon. Mixon did have a good season, but I gotta tell you, weeks 15-16, 14-15-16-17, it wasn't okay. Schultz sucked. None of them. They got the Molokyo. The Colts.

None of them, they got the Malocchio. The Colts. Man, I gotta take ownership of this too. We drafted as our QB one Anthony Richardson on our team. And that was a mistake, it will never happen again. I actually, I'm coming in here with takes. I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple years. Oh wow.

What did we say about that when Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richardson? I was like, I don't like you said, don't do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, don't fire me. Don't fire me. We're not. I paid for one third of it too. I did. Yeah. Your driveway suffered. And it was pricey. It was, it was a hit. a hit. But I've yeah, the Colts, the Milocchio, Pittman was bad. Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor, could you imagine if we had, if you had him on your team and he rips off that 41 yard run and at the one yard line drops the ball. And I want to tell you, I wrote down what he said in his post game interview. Okay. He wrote, you could be up 50, you could be down 50. It could be a playoff game. It could be the He wrote, you could be up 50, you could be down 50,

it could be a playoff game, it could be the first season, it could be the first game of the season, that should just never happen. That's, Mr. Taylor. He did have incredible games down the stretch. I understand that, and he was out to prove a point after that, but it's still, I want someone to say, I'm changing my, after they drop, after they do that at the one yard line and drop a ball, and it's still, I want someone to say, I'm changing my life.

After they drop, after they do that at the one yard line and drop a ball, and by the way, lose a game that they should have won. They should say, I need to change, I need to change major things in my life. Something major has to change. That's rock-bob. Something major has to change,

not just like, that just can't happen. Yeah. Yeah. I mean he I This is about you Jerry not about me, but I was in three fantasy leagues I won two out of three of them and I had Jonathan Taylor. So again, it's about you Jonathan Taylor you You won with with I mean his last two weeks of the season He had insane games in the playoffs in the fantasy playoffs. Whoo It's more about that one yard for you though. Yeah, but that's okay. Yeah, I do agree winner loser

How you decide to get there? I would like to see a little bit more Like that's the that's the worst thing that I've ever done in my life after that game. Yeah, I would like that I would like to see somebody say that accountability. Yeah, accountability matters. That's what we care about for us as we're married is the standard. Yep. Yeah, he weeks 16 and 17 at 218 yards and three touchdowns. And then he went 125 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, like so big cat if if we're looking at one of our employees, and they drop the metaphorical ball at the one-yard line. I would like them to say to me. I'm changing everything about my life

Yeah, yeah, I agree with you He literally he dropped the ball and then he scored six touchdowns the last three weeks Jerry makes a great point that we would like To hear that. Yeah Good point. Okay Titans. Do we had to even do the Titans? Do we know? Good point. Okay. Titans. Do we even do the Titans? Do we don't do the Titans? I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought. I'm sorry guys. I, I know it's okay. Keep going. Keep going. I dropped the ball at the one. People drop the ball at the time. Yeah. Oh man. You know what else bums me out about the Colts? Um, Oh, who was the Colts number one tight end? Tell me that Number one tight end who who who was their leading tight end? I'm just gonna say moelle cox for uh, no

It was someone named kylan granson. Mm-hmm uh kylan granson moelle cox and their other tight end drew ogletree Had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long. That's not okay. Dallas Clark, Jack Doyle, Colby Fleener, Tammy are rolling over in their retirement chairs. Malochio. The Titans, oh, I do wanna say, I know if we were gonna draft anyone in the AFC South and we're not, because they're dead to us,

Pollard's got some gas in the tank. Yeah, I don't hate Pollard. We did draft Pollard on our team. All right, good work. Good job. Okay, and if the Titans do not make that trade spots with the Raiders and take cam ward, Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft.

If that druggy Aaron Rogers goes there, Calvin Ridley becomes a must draft. If we were drafting AFC South players, um, Oh, cam ward goes to the Titans their new General manager Nick Borgazzi not Nick Borgazzi Nick Nick Borgazzi Nick Borgazzi is their new general manager. He's the one who scouted Patrick Mahomes. Oh chief. Okay, okay, so Cam Ward on the tights. Watch out.

Best quarterback of all time. Watch out. Jaguars, I guess Brian Thomas Jr. He's pretty good. Can't draft Bigsby or Tetien. Do they have a general manager yet? No. No.

Tell me about Ian Cunningham. Who is Ian Cunningham? He is the assistant general manager yet? No. No. Tell me about Ian Cunningham. Who is Ian Cunningham? He is the assistant general manager for the Bears. And I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the Bears would get two picks in the third round, compensatory picks. Wow. So you have no...

I'd like the picks. You'd like the picks over... He seems like a pretty good guy that's trusted, and you know, but I would like the picks. You'd like to picks over. I, he seems like a pretty good, like guy that's trusted and you know, but I would like to fix. All right. Um, anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AC South, uh, NFC East. We're in the NFC. Okay, let's go. It's the Eagles, right? Yeah. Okay. Um, Max next season, if I'm the manager, will I be drafting any Eagles? Max. Yep.

First of all, before I say this, how do we pronounce Goddard? Is Goddard? Goddard. You were right the first time. Just Goddard. Yep. But it's spelled G-O-E-D.

Yeah. So it's spelled Goddard. Pronounced Goddard. Yeah. Goddard. Goddard. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so it's spelled go dirt It pronounced got it. Yeah guttered got it We're drafting all the Eagles man, I got a single one of them and if I am offered a trade for AJ Brown I'm just gonna fucking click accept trade That feels like something we shouldn't telegram and smokes. Yeah, we're just we're putting out some disinformation right now Yeah for anybody listening in or in that

league. You understand why I didn't make that trade, right? I mean, no, I don't. I don't. Because of the book. Yeah, because he read a book. Yeah. Man. Man. Remember that Max, I just want to say, I know everyone talks about Goddard. And by the way, I believe don't quote me on this leading receiver in the playoffs for the Eagles. But you know when he won me over?

That triple stiff arm in the wild card weekend, man. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. Incredible. He went back for more. He could have just kept going, but he said he had to slow down to give him just one more punch. Oh, I got to give you another props

now that we're on the Eagles. I was staying at a, I don't know if they're a partner of the show I was staying at a Marriott Bonvoy Hotel. Sorry. No, that's okay. Um, and there was an I was just sitting in bed and there was Like a Marriott Channel and Jason Kelsey had like an infomercial on oh, because he's the spokesperson. He's not usually on TV. He was great, he was really good. Yeah, I thought he had a really good personality. I was- Talented guy.

Yeah, I watched that infomercial. It was like a 20 minute infomercial. I was riveted. Yeah. But it was good stuff. I mean, he's not playing anymore. Are you sure it wasn't just, he has a TV show. He has a late night show.

He does? Friday nights. Was it a Friday night? What is it on? ESPN. Sorry guys, this is the only sports, I get all my sports. Love that. Love that.

Good point. Cause Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel. Do you ever think, like, do you ever because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel Do you ever think like do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like man? If my career had just gotten a little better, that could be me Good question good question. Good question. Um No, I I try to just worry about my own lane, okay. All right. Yeah. No, hey listen, I mean I'm I'm here Blue here coach last night

Point it's good boy. Are you raw dog fitness? He's raw dog it. Uh, no, I put on noise cancelling headphones, okay Yeah, I went to a plan of fitness. I took a shit. I showered. Yep, and I came here. Yeah living dream I showered. Yup. And I came here. Yeah. Living the dream. Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fucking

fantasy team again next season? Isn't that something that he aspires to do? Why should he just like? Mario Lopez probably would be awesome as a fantasy. He's a good looking guy too, isn't he? Yeah. Ageless. NFC East, commanders, right?

Yeah. I've stolen NFC East. NFC East, commanders, right? Yeah. NFC East. Oh man, I know I've said this before. If Scary Terry gets one more receiver, maybe Devonta Adams, maybe Tyler Lockett, who doesn't want to be in Seattle anymore.

Terry Kill. He would have a Jamar Chase-, a Jamar chase like season. Wow. I like that. I think we will get a wide receiver. I think you can, you can bet on that going in next year. If we draft somebody in the first round or if we, we signed somebody in free agency, I think we will have a very good number too. That's Zach. Or it's just so awesome too. Um, man, so good. Hey, anybody see that video? I didn't hear you guys talk about it. We're

Fletcher Cox. Max, you on Max Max Max. I am here. Fletcher Cox hugging Zach. Ertz cocks hugging Zach Ertz. Man. That was, that was emo man. Yeah. Because it was like, so because it's Fletcher Cox and he obviously can't pass a line and he's going to Zach, Zach. It's like calling someone from the stands, you know, Zach. Oh man, that was really emotional yeah that moment I really like that Earth's not retired he wants to make that very clear he shouldn't yep he was awesome man um God I love a Washington tight end as well Cooley Vernon Davis Logan Logan Thomas. Love them.

Yeah, maybe they draft that Matthew Golden guy that we talked about earlier, that Texas guy. Or Savion Williams. TCU, college football expert. Yeah. Ohio State. Let's help Jaden out a little bit, everybody. Jaden and Terry. Oh, the Cowboys.

Okay, this is interesting. I guess DAC is staying there because coach Schottenheimer is now the head coach, right? So I guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening. I don't think you really can move that DAC. I think he probably has a, no trade clause, right? Oh, what would it, you could trade him to the Titans. Would he be a better quarterback? His name was Zach. Zach Prescott.

Hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Zach Prescott. Zach Prescott would be a pretty good quarterback. But yeah, I think Dak has the no trade. So I don't know that he would leave. All right. Um, so he's staying there. I gotta tell you that makes me not want to be a part of the Cowboys. I, I, and by the way, you know, Jerry Jones is gonna Jerry Jones, you know, T Higgins is probably going there. Stephon digs. He's going to get Aaron Jones over there.

Water is wet. The Dallas Cowboys are going to go six and 11. It's just, it's going to happen. I don't care who is over there. It's, uh, we'll draft Brandon Aubrey. He seems to be very good. Their whole offense. All right. See? Yeah. Yeah. Good job. The best kicker of all time. Good kicker. Jerry O'Connell. Okay.

Let's get to the Giants still NFC East, right? I think the Giants have the most intriguing off season of any team in the NFL. Now, do you have a bias against the Giants, Jerry? I don't mind the Giants. Because earlier, I think you called them the New York shitbag Giants. Well, they had a terrible season. They were unwatchable and it's been that way for a couple of years. They have the third pick, right? Yeah. OK. I said earlier, they've got to take Travis Hunter. There's some rumors that they might take Alabama quarterback.

No. Jalen Morrow, no. That'd be crazy high. OK. It's been on some mock drafts. Yeah, people talk about it. OK. They get Travis Hunter.

Sam Darnold comes over to the Giants. He's got Travis Hunter, Malik, and that running back, Tracy. Max, they're winning the NFC East next. Wow. I don't know about that. Wow. That's hell of a take. Wow. Max, you hear those bells?

Bing bong. Yeah, you hear footsteps, Maxie. Sam Darnold comes there, Travis Hunter, Malik, Tracy, they're winning the NFC East. It's always a different team every year. But they better not take that Jalen Milrow. I've seen some, I've seen some mock drafts with them up there. Uh, let's go to the NFC West, the Seahawks, right? Yep.

Yeah. That's good. Oh God. All right. To prepare for this, I listened to about 20 fucking hours of locked on Seahawks. Kill me now. Cause I really didn't know what was going on with them. And I'll tell you, if we even think about drafting anyone there, it's because they went

10 and seven last year. And I want to tell you the only reason why that team went 10 and seven is because Mike McDonald is a really good coach. All right. that team went 10 and seven is because Mike McDonald is a really good coach. All right. After my 19th hour of locked on Seahawks, it seems like Tyler Lockett is leaving, which leaves Jackson Smith, Najibah. I said that correctly, right? That was a little scary one. Jackson Smith, Najibah. Max, if I, that means if I said anything,

just beat me out. Okay. I'm really toeing the line there. Jackson Smith. Yep. Say it three times. No way, man. No way. You're no way. You're not going to Michelle Beatle me here. No way. No way. JSN. How about just JSN JSN JSN JSN JSN. No way, man. No way. Max, have your finger on the button. Okay. He's really intriguing if Tyler Lockett leaves. But you got to be careful. He only scored six touchdowns this season, and we need touchdowns if I'm going to be your fantasy manager and if we're gonna win also Gino Stan. We mean if we said we said that you were yeah it's you're not getting fired you just might have a boss. The Cardinals Kyler I still love him he's great if he's around we're gonna draft him uh Trey McBride is awesome Michael Wilson was a real bummer. Thought he was gonna do a little better. Mm-hmm. Yeah, Harrison just needs to step it up or he needs help or something. I don't know what's

happening there. Yeah, we're a pro Marvin Harrison podcast, just for the record, in case he happens to listen. Big fans. Senior and junior. Of course. Yeah, both. Yeah, love them. Great family. He had a mediocre fantasy season though. Yeah. But it was good. He's great.

I'm just saying, if he's- Marvin Harrison, all the Marvin Harrison's- This is Sherrio Connell talking right now. Awesome. He lives in California. Not in Chicago, Marvin Harrison. But I'm your fantasy manager. I wanna say, if he's there and we have a choice of

another receiver. We're probably going of a great, great standing, but we're trying to protect you. But if it's going to be you or us, it's this is you saying that. Yeah. Sound mind and body. We are a team. He is consenting to anything Marvin Harrison senior wants to do. Yep. We are, we are one, we are a team. So if someone's here in Chicago and I'm not here, they can come see you. No, no, no, no. They can go to California. And you represent our team.

No, no, no. Would you take a bullet for us? You'd probably let me, wouldn't you? Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We'd throw you in front of it. Let's go to the Rams.

Not Mario though. Man, he looks so good you in front of it. Let's go to the Rams not Mario though. Uh, Man he looks so good that guy. What does he do Jerry? Are you gonna get into any superhero movies? Um, No You should try to do that. You should try I'm the voice of Superman and the animated Superman movies a few of them. You go. Okay DC animation. But as a career move, maybe talk to your agent, tell him Jerry's going to Marvel. Yeah, I mean, I've said that often, but it doesn't automatically mean that you're in those movies a little harder. I know, but you can want something all you want. It

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That's got a PFT guarantee on it stamp it and now here's more Jerry O'Connell The Rams were taking all them that receiving court that puka cup and I gotta tell you Robinson. Mm-hmm Robinson had two two TD games Shit, say that again, Robinson. I won't say Jackson Smith, Najib, but fast, but I will say two, two TD games, two, two TD games last season, weeks, eight and nine, man Robinson. He may be suspended a little bit. He did have a DWI, but man, that receiving core is awesome.

You know, um, I know I told you I listened to 20 hours of Locked On Seahawks to do research for this. I also, I wanted to see where Matthew Stafford was and I couldn't really find out any information. So I listened to about five episodes of Kelly Stafford's Time Out podcast. Okay. You got any?

Kelly Stafford as a podcast, Matthew Stafford's wife. It's actually an interesting podcast it's sort of a it's from the point of view of Is is wag good? Yeah, it's not offensive lives and girlfriends, right? Wags of football players So it's sort of interesting but I Think the sixth episode I was on

Kelly got to talking about next season with her husband and Kelly Stafford said, um, this was exclusively on the timeout podcast. You don't mind if I mentioned others. No, go for it. Um, that Matthew Stafford texted her, let's talk about next season. So there, it sounds like he's coming back and Kelly is preparing herself for him to come back.

Okay. Because I think, yeah, you would say, let's talk if it was he's walking away. Yeah. But since he brought in next season. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's talk about it.

Let's talk about it, yeah. Yeah, so that means that next season exists. Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay, interesting. Brady didn't send that text, did he? No. No. He just did it. Yeah. He did. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Brady didn't send that text, did he? No, no. He just did it. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. That's,

I mean, maybe he should have sent that text. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, I do want to say I did have a revelation on my seventh hour of a timeout with Kelly, Kelly Stafford. Um, you gotta admit I do work for you guys. So like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You put in the effort. Effort is important. It can take you so far. Results are also important.

But it also takes you so far. But I was thinking as your sort of fantasy expert here on part of my take, some people say to me after they yell like Bing Bong or stuff like that or yell like Maxie, they say like, hey, when are you getting a podcast? And you know, I was like, yeah, like when am I getting a podcast?

And then when I told you I was in the seventh hour of Kelly Stafford's timeout, I was like, you know what, guys? I think we've reached the end of the earth. I think there's all the pockets. Yeah, yeah, we've hit them all. You know what would be interesting though is if there was a WAGs podcast but for the wives and girlfriends of fantasy managers. And if there's anybody out there that is maybe like a wife of a guy that spends

a lot of time on fantasy and he's annoying and you want to start a podcast, I think Barstool Sports would probably be interested in producing that. Yeah. Yeah, I might be in for that. Hypothetically. But you guys would like that. Yeah. I mean, I just follow me, but yeah.

Just think we've hit critical mass with podcasts. You know, I just think it's over. Yeah. Yeah BFFs That's all about chicken fries NDAs Mm-hmm armchair talks about everybody's sober. It's good. That's healthy smart lists actors talking laughing at each other. I Mean Rogan's got the Ivermectin. Mm-hmm. What would my lane? I don't even know what my lane would be No, I don't even know what my lane would be. No, I don't, yeah. What saves America is Biden's all good, I mean. I don't even know what my lane would be.

Yeah. I think that's it. All right, 49ers. Man, how funny that we dodged that Christian McCaffrey bullet. Yeah. It was. We could have, we could have like, I almost had the first, Oh God, we could have not won the championship. Um, yeah.

But you know what? I got a problem with the Niners and you know what? John Lynch obviously graded his job. They've been to two super bowls. Um, graded his job. What's going to happen with Brock Purdy? I don't know, probably pay him money. I understand that, but is John Lynch gonna John Lynch and not pay, is he not gonna show up to camp? Like remember the whole, cause I think that whole Brandon Iuke thing

tanked their season. Set him on a bad path. Yeah. Yeah. What happens there? I don't know. Yeah, it's a interesting question because you would think that he would want to be paid like more than Dak Prescott and Dak Prescott is the highest paid player in the league

But then now you've got all that cap committed to Brock your team's already making you've got a lot of questions about who you keep around and also you kind of owe Brock Purdy because nobody talks about Trey Lance because of Brock Purdy and All of all the picks you gave up to move up. Yeah. To get Trey. Yeah. It's funny. I didn't even think about that. Look, I'm always just pay the players. You end up paying them anyway. So why keep them out? But John Lynch plays hardball.

Also. So we're, so we're going to stay away from the Niners. Also, I gotta say, I don't know if it's like my age range, but like, it makes me think of the early eighties and I get like the colors, it gets kind of depressed. Like I think of like cigarettes and earthquakes and just like, I don't know. They kind of depressed me. It's always an afternoon game. Um, all right. NFC North lions, all of them.

The fact that Jameson Williams went so off weeks 16 and 17, it just opens up that entire offense. Just all of them, all of them, every single one of them. I do think Coach Campbell should have not played any starters in week 17. I thought that was a big mistake. I thought it was a big mistake. I think it's why they're not playing in the Super Bowl. It was so funny. I was thinking when Saquon watched Shipley score a touchdown on Sunday, to see how pumped he got. Max, are you still on?

Max? I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. To see how pumped he got. Jerry's like Max's dog. He gets separation anxiety. He's like, Max, Max, Max? He can also, I'm right here. You can see me.

Oh yeah. It's cute though. You get afraid that Max left. I think it would have pumped the whole team up and I think they would have performed better against in the post-season. You know, I think it has a lot to do. I'm not kidding. And this is, this is part of my take. I got to have a take. Yep. I think a lot of it has to do with Copenhagen.

I don't know if anyone has ever, uh, I know we have like fans is in out there and stuff. Lucy. Yeah. Lucy. Apologies. That's okay. You want one? No, no, no. Let me, let me try that again. I think you should have one. No, no, no. Thank you. Thank you. I'm off the net. You want a lip pillow? Um, I know we're all fans of Lucy here. Yep. Um, dude, again, three, two, one, like, you know, Mario is like a super professional. He does. He goes like this. He goes, well, he wouldn't fuck that up. Three, two, one.

I know we're all fans of Lucy here and I gotta say, because coach Campbell is a Copenhagen guy, I think that's been established in the Red Knocks, right? And if you don't know, if you ever dipped, Copenhagen is like, it's the main line of chewing tobacco. It's not like strands. It's not like long. It's like fine bits that go right to, I mean, your main lining.

Nicotine. Yeah. It's almost like drinking like dark black Stella blue coffee and throwing in a Lucy. That's good, that was good. Good job. But I think because he's a Copenhagen guy, I think he's like, we're gonna keep going, we're gonna keep going, we're gonna keep going. No rest. All gas, no brakes, all gas, no brakes.

And it, you don't have a natural sense of like, take a, Hey fellas, let's take a break for a week. Yeah. Take a beat. So, um, I think that all gas, no brakes doesn't work. Uh, Vikings. Um, what's going to happen there? Is JJ, is JJ McCarthy going to be in good? I think he's going to be good. I think Kevin O'Connell will make sure he's good. Okay. All right. I just, uh, I just don't know. I mean, we'll wait till the preseason. Um, well Kirk cousins maybe going there, going back. I don't think so I mean, we'll wait till the preseason. Kirk Cousins maybe going there? Going back? I don't think so. I think it's going to be J.J. McCarthy. Maybe. I don't know what to do with Sam Darnold. Packers. Big Cat, this is going to excite you.

Their receivers suck so bad. Yeah. Well, is it the receivers or is it Jordan Love? I think it's the receivers. I think it's the receivers. Could be both. I don't think Jaden Reed and Christian Watson are doing it. I mean, Kraft is good. You know, we're just staying away. The Bears, big cat. You ready? Yeah. None of them. Are you ready? Yeah. How do you feel like when you when you're about to hear my, my take on your team? I think you're gonna say none of them. So anything

over none of them is a success. Six out of 10. Six out of 10 excited. Well, it's so funny. I did a couple drafts of this because the NFL is ever changing, especially these days with like hirings and everything. We were going to say none of them. Yeah. That they were poison. That they... I expected that. They infected your team, Mr. Smith. They were the monkeypox of... They're the human papilloma virus of fantasy. These are all fair. Um, But now that your coach is Ben Johnson, yeah All of them. Oh Every fixed everything turned around quick Roma doon say he's the antidote is going to be Jameson Williams

2.0. He's going to have two he's gonna have a rushing and passing and he's gonna have three touchdowns a game okay um okay shit let's talk about drafts the person who should have won the Heisman Ashton Genti is he now Travis Hunter had a pretty good season I don't know if you could do should have Travis Hunter won the Heisman. Is this what is this show called? Part of my take. I'm going to have a take. Okay. Okay. And you're a chance to be better than one. Okay. Um, is he going to be a bear? Possibly. If he is a bear,

can you imagine all the things that I've said about him and having to interview him? Yeah, I've imagined. Can you imagine what coach Johnson is going to do with Ashton Jennings? Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna freaky with it. What happened with Deandre Swift this, this season? It was the offensive line, but also he's, he's not very good. I don't think there's a there's a big difference between running behind the Bears offensive line and running behind the Eagles

offensive line. I think that's what that showed us. Yeah Maxi NFC South Falcons. Okay. I have a question for you guys if By the way, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it right now. I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager I have to set I have oh He's trying to flip it on set boundaries. Okay. I won't work with someone else all right It's just the three of that makes our decision a lot easier to Do not get along well with others. I just I don't want to be stuck with brick isn't that Woody Johnson's kid yeah? Yeah, yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing I think I think if it's brick

You should have to accept that mm-hmm. It's brick. We get brick to do the yeah You should have to accept that mm-hmm. It's brick to do the yeah He's taking off do you still have that weird tuft of hair in your back It's getting hot in here yeah, I just had a hot flash guys are making me go through menopause um I Won't do it. I won't work with someone else. It's the three of us. We'll take that into consideration. Go call fucking Mario Lopez. Go call the guys from Smart List.

They have a podcast. I feel like Mario Lopez would be pretty damn good as a fantasy manager. Go call Kelly Stafford. Go call my wife. Have them all... We want to. She doesn't follow us.

NFC South. Oh, here's a question for you guys. Yeah. I should probably start to wrap this up, right? This is going well. That's okay. Okay. Um, let's start with the Atlanta Falcons.

If a quarterback week 18 against the Panthers goes off, I'm talking to passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown goes off. Looks amazing. Are we drafting him in the 2025 season? Talk about Michael, Michael Penex. I thought he looked pretty good. I would maybe hold off maybe a late round backup guy. He's not your fantasy starter. Okay. Okay. What'd you see from him? Just that. See, here's the thing. It was week 18. He's not your fantasy starter. Okay. Okay. What'd you see from him? Just that w see, here's the thing. It was week 18. It's like the last taste in your mouth. So you're like, Oh, this guy, I'm targeting him. No one else is watching this game.

I don't think we should base our projections on week 18. Yeah. Is week 18. That's a pretty important fantasy week, right? Yeah. Kyle Pitts is never going happen. I like that. That's the best point that you've made. Yeah Start to come around. Yeah, that's growth bucks Man, Stephen Che is gonna get so excited right now. He's getting some blood flow. All of them. Oh, I like that Baker Evans Chris Godwin before he got injured was like just having a record-breaking season Bucky

Irving Cade all of them oh they even offensive do they have an offensive coordinator yet I think they're working on working on it is it that that that grant guy from Minnesota they're working on that. They're working on it. Is it that, that, that grant guy from Minnesota? They're working on, they're basically calling anyone who's talked to Kevin O'Connell or Sean Clay. Because if it's that Minnesota assistant, right? Yeah. The Bucks are must traps. All of them. I like that.

They're about to have a lot of fun. Oh yeah. It might be that Marcus Brady guy too, who was the passing coach at the chargers, whoever it is, they're going to have fun. All of them saints, none of them. Could you imagine a world where Alvin Camara is actually on like a team? Yeah, it'd be nice. I mean, what's, what's his contract situation? Why is he there? I think they just didn't they give him two year extension?

It's just not happening. Um, what do you think about Spencer Rattler? Uh, no, no. Okay. All right. Good. Good. Good answer. Um, Panthers, um, wrapping this up guys. Can you believe Adam Thielen is still doing it? Yeah, they still do. They're doing it. Um, Oh, uh, oh gosh, I know this has been a bad pronunciation. Chuba Hubbard, right? Yeah, no, it's Chuba. Yeah. Chuba. Yeah. Chuba Hubbard, not Chubba Hubbard.

Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard, um, is a must draft. Uh, he just, um, he's next season. If I'm still your manager, not working with anyone else, um, I know in the past I've said we're old school. We got to get some running backs in the first, like three rounds. Uh, we're going to wait till rounds four, five and six to get our running backs. And Chuba falls right into that. Okay. Um, and my final take?

I think Bryce Young is going to have a really good year. Okay, I like that. So that's it guys. Yes. So we're like Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. We we were going to need some time, but you're not allowed to interview anywhere. I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend. It's a personal thing. Okay. Yeah, we're going to block all interviews,. I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend, but it's a personal thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to block all interviews, but we're going to need some time to figure this out. By the way, guys, I loved your take on that Jaguars hiring and saying like, Hey man, anything goes. Yeah. There's the NFL. There's a, there are no friends. Yeah. Yeah. Weird guy though. Uh, all right. So I have one last question for you, Jerry.'s, there are no friends. Yeah, yeah. Weird guy though. All right, so I have one last question for you, Jerry.

Oh, hold on a second. Yeah, well no, my last question might be what you're gonna do. No, no, no, just hold on one second. Okay, all right, you hold on. Hang on, okay? I'll hold on. You know, I gotta tell you,

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Yeah. Love it. That's great, Jerry. That was a beautiful poem. A beautiful poem. You're the best, Jerry. So, me and BeKat need to have some discussions offline. Yeah.

So, put a pin in it, we'll circle back. You've given us a lot to think about. Yeah, and I, you know, I'll say this. No matter which way we go in terms of the fantasy team, I hope you feel the same way that we've enjoyed our time together. And I look back at it and think of nothing but positives. Tell me to grab my playbook and go see coach.

No, no, no, no, no, no. But I just want you to know that there's no hard feelings when it comes to fantasy football. I've got to thank my friends Richard and Ryan, who helped me write that poem. They're huge AWLs. Sony exec? Don't say word of word. Please, please, please. Shout out Richard and Ryan.

We're big fans. I love you guys. Whatever you guys decide to do, I'll be okay with. You know, maybe BFFs has a fantasy team that they want me to. Yeah. Yeah. Not win a championship with. Love you, Jerry.

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last episode you'll be listening to with us in our 30s. Yeah, it's basically been this show has been basically the entire decade of our 30s. I've been I've been worried about turning 40 since I turned 30. And then I was so worried when I turned 39 that I feel Like now I'm not I vote. I'm already there. I I'm gonna I definitely like starting to feel it just like physically. I think I plantar fasciitis, which sucks didn't even know My heel just hurts. This is all self-diagnosed. I'm not gonna see a doctor Uh, I think I'm just gonna get a shit load more tattoos. Yeah, I think that's just kind of I'm gonna deal with this

I'm not gonna I don't really have any other outs I was actually getting a little sentimental last night because I realized I'm no new a little bit longer But I met PFT for a birthday party for his 30th birthday. Yeah for yeah 10 years. Yeah on the dot Yeah, it's crazy pounded mad dogs. dot. Yeah. That is crazy. Pounded mad dogs. Now we're drinking Malort. We've said it on the show before. I have, I know I have, and obviously I'm 30 now, but I do remember like Big Cat was going crazy hard for his 30th birthday. I was like, damn, he's 30. He's still got it. Like he's old. Don't got it anymore. And now I'm older than that. Yeah. Also very funny funny because of 21 the first time Dave and PFT met

I think my words I think I said I was like this is PFT. He's super talented Like he does the misspellings in and like he's joking how you do misspellings and stuff But you're serious. He's joking and he was just like what? We got to do it for 50 now too joking and David was just like what? I don't get it. We gotta do it for 50 now too. What do you mean? Well I'm saying now it's like every 10 years. Wait, but what are we doing for 40? Case race.

Oh yeah, case race, shit. I've been- We're taping this right before the case race. I've been pretty hung over for the case race since Monday. Oh, me too. The anxiety going into it. I get real bad anxiety when I'm hung over. Very, very bad.

Yeah. Tripling now. I used to be able to, yeah, until I was 34, wake up the next day, feel okay. Now it's like, I have that hangover anxiety, but I had it on Monday for getting drunk on Tuesday night. I'm just happy the whole squad's in it. So Max, Hank, PFT, myself, you can watch the Yak Case Race on Friday. It'll be out, but we're taping it after we do this and yeah, I'm I'm I'm miserable already about just thinking about it. Although I did find out I have a steam shower been living in my house for a year and a half. Just figured this out. That's pretty cool Pretty cool. So I'm gonna steam it up tomorrow morning. I'm gonna hit the sauna. Yeah, it's gonna be great

I like I press the buttons like does this do anything and then steam just started coming out of my shower I got a question for you guys. This is the richest shit ever. I'm sorry. I'm sorry There I have this sick feature of my in my house I got a glory worse one when I moved into my house I my wife was like, do you do you like our house like any complaints like I wish there was another bathroom on the first floor She's like two's not enough and I was like, where's the second? Like you idiot. I Would I was like, yeah, what's what's this hole in my wall in the shower for I just found out last week

You can come through Pretty good. I got a question for the young kids, young kids on the show. So the booth, not you Hank, you're old. What is over the hill? Is over the hill 40 or is it 50? Or is it 30 now that the internet, like everybody online is under the age of 20? I thought I was about to go over the hill. 30 was energy shift.

30 was like, I'm old now. It's impossible to even, you know, go through the motions as I did because I've been going through what feels like the same motion since I was 18, 19. Once you hit 30, it's like I should be doing something else. Like I'm over the hill. Yeah. But I remember when I was growing up, I think 40 was over the hill and then I thought 50 might've been over the hill. But I think now 40, at least, maybe 30. I think, because I've thought about this way too much and it's probably bad.

You having kids change things, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm like actually providing and I have three things that are gonna be my future. So it definitely changed my perspective. But I've been thinking about it because I obviously get in my own head where I'm like, you know, someday people

are just gonna stop listening to us, but I love doing the show. I want to do it forever. I think what I've come to grips with is PFT, you can follow me here. I think for the next, I think we still got it for about four or five years. Then I think it's going to be a tough couple years where people just shit on us. And then I think in our late 40s, we're going to get funny again by saying stupid shit and forgetting it and people like, but man,

they're so funny because they're so old and dumb. We're a speed run to Lee Corso are. Yeah, right. Right. I think that will be our late 40s. And also I get in my own head, like we obviously have listeners of all ages and I appreciate all of them, but it is crazy to think about like we've been doing this for so long, like people have just gotten older with us.

I think one thing that we forget sometimes is when we started doing the show, it wasn't just people that were younger than us that listen. Yeah, right. There's a lot of people that are older. But they also all like if you were 25 when you started listening to this, you're 34 now. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's a little comforting comforting like people have grown up with us.

I just like the idea of a 70 year old out there when we turned 45 listening and be like, these guys are so out of touch. Yeah, I still feel young. I just 40 is definitely, it's more the fact that I don't think I'm going to live much past 70, 75. So I'm past halfway.

That's I guess what over the hill means. That's what's fucking me up. Where it's like I do the math and I'm past halfway That's I guess what that's what's that's what over the hill means. That's what's fucking me up Yeah, where it's like I do the math and I'm like, oh I'm on the I'm on the 11th hole Can somebody? That's where that's where I'm getting a little fucked up. Can someone explain to me? Give me something to look for what sort? What are some things that you get better at? After you turn 40, I think I think the number one thing is giving less of a fuck That's the number one thing with age that is so much better where it's like I don't dressing better, but it's like I don't care

Yeah, I got kids. I got a good life. I don't give a fuck playing bingo Okay, that's good one. Thanks Max We're here wait would you say memes don't you guys have to get your finger up your ass now? Yeah Actually like you're rooting for us to die Wait, would you say memes don't you guys have to get your finger up your ass now? Yeah? It's crazy no I think it is I think that yeah the prostate check yeah I think they got technology down now where they can just do like a laser Sick a laser up your eyes. No, I think they just shoot a laser at your body, and they're like you're good or you're bad I also think cool

That the nine is worse than the actual, like turning 29, turning 39 is worse than the actual. Well, if it's anything like turning 30, turning 30 I was scared about. And then as soon as I was 30 or 31, I was like, I'm young again. Because everyone is in their late 30s and I'm in my early 30s.

Since I've turned 30, or since I've turned 29, I've just been like, oh, I'm 30. Yeah. But once I was 28, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 20s. But then once you turn 29, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 30s. And then once you actually turn 30, it's like, oh, yeah, I've been in this mindset for a year.

Yep. Yep. It hits, and you're like, it's exactly the same. But we're going to, yeah, I think we're going to, I think it's going to suck for like a week. And then we're just like, you know what? Fuck it. And also, you can just be like, I think we're gonna I think it's gonna suck for like a week and then we're like, you know what? fuck it and

also, you can You can just be like I can't go I'm not going outside. I'm not getting drunk. I'm 40. I'm old. Yeah, I Still feel like I'm like We're gonna get a young we're knee young buck I was thinking maybe I know I said 16 or 17 on Sunday show I'm thinking maybe I know I said 16 or 17 on Sunday show. I'm thinking more like 13 Let's adopt a child I want some 13 year old takes all right Is being a football fan better when you get older or was it better when you were younger? Obviously you've gambling now

But you had so much time to potentially win a Super Bowl as a kid is that your team winning a Super Bowl window the male Equivalent of a woman going through menopause or her eggs drying up help me out here I just turned 27. 27 is the perfect age by the way. Yeah I think we talked about this once before. 27 is the best age. If you're a kid if you're like 10 years old winning titles it's like that's the center that's all you care about like Hank you were saying that when you were a kid all you cared about was baseball right that's got to be sweet when you were a kid, all you cared about was baseball, right? That's got to be sweet. If you're a kid, if you're like in your twenties, you can party, you can celebrate, you can like quit your job essentially, if your team

wins a Superbowl, because you're like, I'd kind of like to just get drunk for a month and celebrate in your thirties. I don't think it would be as fun. I think the kids thing then comes back in. Yeah. Where like, if you can, if you have kids and you can share it with them,'s cool, too Someone who won a dynasty as a kid in a dynasty as an adult I would I would have to say the adult one was you Were on Joe Mazzullo's duck boat. Yeah. Well now I'm talking strictly dynasty. Yeah, I know that was pretty cool You've got to die. You're in different dynasty Was baseball the Red Sox had the greatest comeback in I got all the history

You got to win a Super Bowl this year. I want to gotta win. The Red Sox had the greatest comeback in the history. You got to win a Super Bowl this year. You got to win a Super Bowl this year. It's a tough question. I also think that if you're like 95, then it becomes great again. Well, because they might do a news story on you. Yeah. Then you cry. Yeah. Max, you got to win a Super Bowl this year. High school senior, end of senior year, Bruins won a Stanley Cup. Unforgettable. Love the

Bruins. Max, what's going to change about you if you win a Super Bowl this year? You're not winning a Super Bowl. I'll be a winner. Yeah, like are you going to, like we won't be able to make fun of you the same way. I know, it'll be great. It'll be awesome. It'll be the best. But it's not going to happen. It's just the same.

I just want to flash forward to Sunday. If I'm so, I just wanna flash forward to Sunday. If I get another, I can't get another second place. Are you gonna let Hank just dump on you like this? Hank's got a future on the birds. He's a birds guy. And I know it's a, it's a, it's a donation. It was a one and a half point spread. That's what I just keep telling myself. Then cash out, Hank.

It's a one and a half point spread. Cash out and bet the chiefs. No, fuck that. Okay. I want the birds, but I just know, like I just know. Max, I know you've daydreamed about what's gonna happen after the Super Bowl if you win, and how happy you're gonna be. Have you thought about the place you would be at if you lose? Yeah, I'm very familiar with that place. That's the thing. It's not like it's gonna be something that I can't imagine. I'm there. I'm there like every 18 months mm-hmm

So yes, I have thought about it, and I know exactly what it's gonna feel like and it's not gonna be good mm-hmm okay Why is it that as I get older and get into my first real job working around adults They care more about what I do with my outside life than when I was in college. I thought as you get older, people care less about drama and petty things, but it's the total opposite. No, it's vicarious. Well, yeah, the less you go out and have a social life, then you just spend your time talking about other people.

Yeah, and they also get to lie about what they used to do when they were younger. So they hear you be like, oh yeah, I went out and I partied on Friday night. They're like, yeah, I used to start Friday night in Sunday night Sometimes some beers Monday morning going into work They like to just exaggerate how much action they had when they were your age Stanford

Stephen Russo had a very funny conversation about this about how they would like go for the show when they were doing with SVP and SVP would always Like go back to the hotel and they would go out and then SVP the next day would just be like tell me everything that happened And I remember listening to that and being like oh man, and I'm that guy I'm the go to the hotel and then just be like give me a really care though No, I don't care as much you're not you're not nosy or like no, I just want to go to bed Yeah, more than anything. No because it's like I also can't keep track of anything I always find out the gossip in the office

Absolutely the last person like the last person. I'm pretty sure the cleaning ladies find out the gossip before me At what age did you realize that you couldn't physically do the things you could do in your athletic prime? Because it feels like every time I throw a ball on of any kind I'm on the verge of throwing my arm out Hmm, I'm stum like approaching my athletic prime. Are you? Yeah, I thought your athletic prime was like 27 maybe yours I don't think it's like yeah, there's nothing. I mean obviously there's a lot of shit. I can't do Well when I when I do throw yeah, that that's definitely one where it's like if you throw Like we had a mound out there for opening day last year and I threw as hard as I could like four times

and I thought my arm was going to fall off. I think for me it's more I notice it when we play pickup hoops on Friday and I just stand at the three point line. I'm just like, I don't really want to go down low and get elbowed and bang around. That's a big one. I think this is more frontal lobe or whatever it's called. But the skiing for me, like I used to like skiing, but I. When I was a kid and younger and young adult, I had a very

I have a very reckless ski style where I just bombed down the hill. Not a great stopper. And it was always like, just go straight and eventually you'll get a, you know, you'll slow down. But speed was never a concern. Now when I even think about skiing, I'm like, I don't wanna do that. But I know how I ski and how I've always skied.

It's like you can't be scared if you're gonna do it like that. Here's the big one. The big part of getting old, I've noticed for athletic stuff is you're just way more conscious of getting injured. And you're scared, yeah, that's what you're explaining right now. Like I am more conscious of getting injured. And you're scared. Yeah, that's what you're explaining right now. I am so scared of getting injured, because an injury at 40 versus an injury at 25

is so vastly different. Yeah, so at this age, you collect injuries. So if you get injured, that's going to be something that you deal with for pretty much the rest of your life, where you break a leg, and you're like, well, now my leg is never going to work the same ever. Whereas if you get injured when you're 25, give me give me a month. I'll be back

I still hold out hope that someday. I'm just gonna when I'm like not working as much Maybe like start doing yoga and just get like really flexible. So good fucking impossible. Yeah, so the real I want to go to that stretch lab place. Yeah. Yeah, wait where they just stretch you Yeah My real answer to that question though was when when I first had my back injury Yeah, your back hurts for the first time. That's when you know way past your athletic prime kidney stones, too Yeah, kidney stones. He's an old guy thing Yeah

When I was doing the the kicking thing at the the bar stool bowl and all I had to do is make a 35 yard Field goal and I was training for it. I was kicking like 36 yards and two years ago is kicking 45 yards at that point I was like it's never coming back. Also, I'll say it Just standing up for a really long time is just like I'd I want to sit I took 40,000 steps during the dark stream. That was one thing I didn't mention Wow. Thanks for mentioning it beast. Mm-hmm Also almost threw my arm out. So yeah, I, that's a sign to yeah, maybe athletic peak Not what about the comments from the people calling you a pussy for saying that your arm hurt after throwing darts for 10 hours Throw darts for 10 hours. Tell me how your arm feels and then if you still feel like I'm a pussy

I will accept it. I'm gonna till then I'm gonna defend the chat in this in this case Just that every time I watch someone else do something hard. I'm like that's so easy Yeah, the ear your brain just says that like someone does like an eating challenge like I could fucking do that And I know that like watching start. Yeah, like if you sit and watch someone for two hours Not you do nothing, but if you're standing and doing something two hours like it takes a toll What Jerry did tired when Jerry did his first hole in One stream. I was like, how is he so sore? Swing a club 2,000 times and find out put it in your head. You're just like this looks so easy

Hey big cat PFT Hank in America's team max. Hmm someone who recently graduated college How do I figure out what will be my career? When will I know? Also, how come as soon as I finished college hangovers instantly became so much worse. Thanks for all that you guys do I'd love to throw my hat in the ring for your next intern looks like he wants a career Yeah, get ready buddy cuz the hangovers are gonna get way ahead of five years ago before you entered college. Yeah Yeah, I mean that I think that's a very personal question depending on who you are Like how we you know when your your job is the one that you want I think if you just if you enjoy it if you truly like it if you like thinking about it when you're not working there

That's that's probably a pretty good sign. Yeah, my only advice for someone like that is you have more time to Figure it out than you think because I think there's a lot of pressure always when you graduate college especially because there's gonna be a couple of your friends that go right into some high paying job or crushing it and you're like, fuck, I'm behind. You can switch jobs and try something new and do different things.

You have time to fuck up. And not like fuck up, fuck up, but like you have time to do something for a couple years and be like, you know what, this isn't for me. Yeah, you might have to take up. Yeah, in not like fuck up, fuck up. But like, you have time to do something for a couple of years and be like, you know what, this isn't for me. Yeah, you might have to take a step back. But that's where the time comes in. Like taking a step back when you're in your 20s is not as hard as taking a step back when you're 30s or 40s and you have kids and a family and a house and all that shit.

Yeah, don't think because you're 25 years old that you have to be on the path for the rest of your life. Pretty much you don't have to figure it out. So you have kids kids because then you have to think about them more than you think about yourself Yeah, would Robert De Niro saying he never gets so attached to something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds or less That's how you should feel about your job until you're like 27. Yeah, and Robert De Niro. Look at him. He's still having kids Yeah, and she had a great ass Okay, why is it so far away From the stream yesterday ah

Okay, I got no no he can still he can still do this Hank. I got it. Yeah, you're trying to fucking that was an old man Yeah, let me get that for you, sir all right numbers 3 11 All right. Numbers. Three. Eleven. Ninety nine. Forty. Ninety two. What'd you guess last time, Matt? Memes? Three. No, no, no. You guessed something else.

No, I guess three. Was it eleven? Who gets eleven? I always guess eleven. Fifty nine for the Super Bowl. Forty four. Take your time. 54. Fuck that. Love you guys. Is that the Super Bowl you won, Max?

No. What was that? The Patriots won 54. Oh. Love. Oh. Love you guys. So So so So So So Thanks for watching!