Pardon My Take - JJ Redick, Big Ben Is A Warrior And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

Games all day every day has the whole crew in a great mood. Conversation about the bubble, high thoughts and hockey.(2:05-12:05) Hot Seat Cool Throne including the XFL, Big Ben being more injured than anyone ever and the debut of Stool Streams (GET EXCITED). (12:52-32:01) JJ Redick joins us from the bubble to talk about launching his new podcast, Zion rules, NCAA and how he needs to become hateable again. (34:20-1:13:06) Segments include Billy’s big sheet (1:15:00-1:19:19) and guys on chicks (1:19:20-1:26:53)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have JJ Redick from The Bubble. Awesome conversation with JJ. We talk about the season starting back up,

playing with Zion, how much Coach K paid Zion, how JJ can get hateable again because people like him, which means the world is not right. We also have Hot Seat Cool Throne, Guys on Chicks, Billy's Big Sheet, Big Sheet with Billy. Also, Billy might actually be leaving us soon. Don't get too excited, guys. You'll find out during the JJ Redick interview

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$10 to ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, August 5th. Guys, I'm just happy. I'm just happy. It's good to hear you back. I'm just watching sports in the middle of the day. I'm like at noon, game start. I'm just happy.

Yeah, my only issue is they kind of all blur together. Doesn't matter. I wish I had a second screen. I wish I had a TV thing. Devon Booker hit a fucking sick buzzer beater. You know what? Awesome. I'm on board the Devon Booker train

just watching his body language after he made the shot. He basically went to sleep. Dude, you've got no fear. The shot went in and he didn't celebrate. His head went down on the hardwood and he just closed his eyes. Like a person like that that has absolutely. And he got fouled.

Yeah, it was an N1. Refs blew that one. But a person that reacts like that, that guy is a dude. Just don't send him a double team off season scrimmages. Yes, and don't let him tweet. Don't let him tweet. But the Suns, yeah, I mean, everything's been great. The Suns are actually 3-0 and they're not

going to make the playoffs. But it's cool to see young players. Everyone's playing really well. And then you've got hockey, which I forgot how much it sucks to stay up till 1 in the morning to watch your team lose. But that's even that. I did with a smile on my face because I was like, you know what? It's OK because I can cut myself and I bleed again.

I'm not prepared for overtime playoff hockey for meaningful games yet. Yeah. I saw the Caps get into an overtime game yesterday against the Lightning. That game doesn't really count for anything besides seeding. So it's not a true adrenaline rush

that you normally get. We're either going to survive or die at the end of it. But still, it gave me a little taste. And now I'm afraid, again, of overtime hockey. So all is right in the world. Yes, all is right in the world. So I was staying up till one in the morning to watch the Blackhawks.

I had two kind of dumb half-sleep ideas. One was, why aren't we just doing the NCAA tournament right now? Like, if someone. Something to do with school. Who cares? School. Yeah.

Hey, whoever wants to win the presidential election, just pay for it. Like, that would be pretty good. Or how about just. Put them in a bubble and let's just do the NCAA tournament. Just have Jim Nantz show up in a gym. And whoever shows up, they get to compete. Yeah.

Winner gets his time. I'm good with that. Just maybe do the 16, top 16 teams. I don't know. Well, dude, it's already out. Yeah, that's true. Duke has eliminated themselves. But we're basically watching NCAA tournament

with basketball all day. Like, just send the college teams. Let's just fucking do it. Can someone explain to me, going back to hockey, the difference between the ice in Edmonton and the ice in Toronto? Because the Toronto ice sucks. It sucks.

Toronto ice is soupy-choppy. It's like iced soup. It's like a stew almost. Well, and also when you play. I think that's through the Zambonis. But when you play, the other part is when you play three games a day there, it sucks even more at the end of the night.

They got bad Zambonis out in Toronto. That's why people are telling me. Yeah, OK. I think it's also just further south. So it's soupier as you get southern. During the day, the sun is directly over the arena. So it makes it hotter inside there. It's nice and cool.

I love the hat trick, though. The hat trick where they had the production assistant walk down onto the ice carrying a single hat in her hand and threw it over the glass onto the ice. They should get a t-shirt cannon. They should have a t-shirt cannon installed up in the broadcast booth. And they can just fire hats onto the ice

from like a Gatling gun. It's also so funny. Hockey is a similar sport. Hockey and baseball are similar sports where if you see a basketball or a football player, those guys are just either tall, they're huge, they're built. When you're watching hockey or baseball, I was watching the Hawks game last night.

Connor McDavid had a hat trick. And they did a weird training with Connor McDavid during the quarantine. He was doing squats with his dog. And I just looked at him. I was like, this guy. This guy's like one of the best hockey players in the world. Because he just looks like a regular dude.

But he's fucking good. He's really good. Hockey players are built different. Unfairly good. So my other high, weird idea was how crazy would it be if Ron Artes was still playing the NBA? That he would go nuts. No, because of the jersey.

Oh, I thought you were talking about no fans for him to go fight. No, no, no. He goes into the stands and he just treats it like office space and starts smashing equipment. He'd be like peace, world peace. Oh, yeah. I don't know why I just thought of that.

It was stupid. I thought of it like 12 in the morning. I was just like, whoa, that'd be crazy. That's a very good high. What if it was world peace? Like, what would his message be? Because he already is world peace. Like, how much bigger can you get than world peace?

Like, world peace, world peace would be a great name. But like, yeah, you're there. You're world peace. I don't know. That was the only thing I had. Little life hack for NBA players. Just change your last name. Then you can put whatever you want.

I do appreciate that the NBA started putting the names on the bottom so that you, like, when the eighth guy comes off the bench, you're like, oh, that's who it is. Yes. It's not just another plumbly. Oh, no, it is another plumbly. It's not for every player, I don't think.

It's just for certain players. No, no. No, I think they did after. He had to vote on top and millsap on the bottom. And he's number four. Yeah, and John Morant had enough Morant. I was like, so we've just had too much? Too much Morant.

Like, what the hell? Too much of a good thing. They did start doing, I think after the first game, they're like, people don't know who's who. Like I said, the guy's on the bench. So they started putting their names on the back, which I appreciate. But yeah, I just, world peace, world peace.

I had a drunk idea, or no, it was a high idea yesterday. It was about golfers. Because, shut up, man. So Brooks Kapka, did you see that Brooks Kapka, he's got a new polo shirt coming out? Because somebody was chirping him on the course last week and said something like, Brooks is playing so poorly, you should be a truck driver.

And it was during a rain delay. Oh, I'll fight him. And so he replied, yeah, Brinks Truck, which is pretty good comeback. Pretty good comeback. Suck our dicks, anonymous guy. But I was thinking, why don't golfers have uniforms, like, or a shurzy that the fans can wear?

If I want to go out and support Brooks Kapka, I have to spend like 20 weeks in a gym and get swole of shit for people to know that I'm a Kapka supporter. Dude. Why don't we make uniforms or shurzies for golfers? How about, why can't golfers wear shorts? How stupid is that?

Good question. Like, when they play in the shell open in Houston in the middle of August and it's 2,000 degrees, why can't they wear shorts? Or a kilt. You know Bryson would actually wear a kilt. Yeah, he would. By the way, it'd be real.

He'd probably wear a romper, a romp hem, four years late loser. It'd be a real shame if people started tweeting ant emojis at Bryson DeChambeau. Real shame during the PJ championship. I think we now have a bingo board where have we bashed Bryson yet in this episode? He's a bitch. Yep.

Check. Ding. He's replaced Darren Revella as a bitch. He's a person that we hate to give shine to, but we will regardlessly mention every single episode. Dude, listen. Darren's just tweeting things. You guys are taking it wrong.

That's true. Just facts. You know what you're fucking doing. Facts only. I think that if we could jump to the NFL real quick, I did have one thing I wanted to address. I'm starting to get afraid for the NFL season. Dude, what about Gardner though?

So Gardner's OK. We can get to that in a second. But is it time for the NFL to either consider football island or just a hostile takeover of Canada to ensure that we have a site that is COVID free? I think, like I said, on Monday, I think it was Monday's show. I'm just confident that football, after doing it for so many years,

they'll just all lie about it. All the doctors and all the players will just lie about it. And yeah, I mean, I guess it's the wrong thing to do, but I also I'm not going to accuse anyone of lying. Buying Greenland is looking sweeter and sweeter by the day, isn't it? Yes, I'd agree. But yeah, football, I don't know. It's just so weird.

Everything's weird right now because we should be seeing clips from training camps and stuff. And I feel like you don't see any of that stuff. You see every every team has done the welcome back where it's just a bunch of guys walking in the facility. And that's it. The Lions. Have you seen their sanitizing protocol?

No, I saw that Kelly Stafford just is that Broncos? Yeah, the Broncos. There's the Lions. They have the little like spraying whatever the fuck that is. That's the Broncos. Yeah, I said it was the Mike Shanahan. That was his old tanning machine. They just replaced it with like a disinfectant Lysol.

So they're good. They have those. Yeah. Kelly Stafford went after the NFL because I guess Matt Stafford had like two false negatives or something. False positives. The whole thing is crazy. She said that her kids were being bullied on the schoolyard because they were saying, oh, your dad's got corona. Damn, which is. I just kind of believe that.

Yeah, it's fucked up. Kids will be kids. That was great. Jeter getting in front of everyone and being like, hey, everyone stop corona shaming. So my guys went out to the bar. You don't shame somebody. If they have measles, you don't shave. You don't shame people if they have, you know, like lupus. You shame people are herpes.

Well, yeah, we kind of do. Yeah, we do. I all the time. It's one of my favorite things to do. As a matter of fact, I don't I don't want Des Bryant to test positive for the coronavirus. But all I'm saying is that if he does, I've got a tweet ready that's going to go mega viral. Oh, that's called it. How viral? Meg. Yeah.

Megabyte. How am I? Mega megabyte like insanely viral. OK. But I everyone's going to make that same joke. I want to get off. What I'm doing, I'm getting ahead of it. So you're going to put on alerts on this tweet. I would have tweeted that out if it wasn't a mean thing to tweet. And but just so you know that everybody that does tweet, those are all collectively, those are my engagements.

Right. Yeah, add those up. That's as viral as you can get. Yes. You you're going to go more viral than that. Ellen Tweet cut that weird bleep her name, bleep her name. Then the tweet, then the tweet. Yeah, that also had Kevin Spacey in it. People don't talk about that. We just forget about that part.

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OK, Hank, your hot seat and your cool throne. Don't get serious. OK, I'm going to get serious. Oh, I'm going to use my serious car. We all we all we all each get a serious card. Yeah, we use it for like systemic racism and you use it for. Well, it's my cool throne. So I'll get to that. But you know what? I'm going to skip my hot seat.

I'll get straight to my cool throne. You want me to get serious? My hot seat was Drake. I'll let you guys figure that out. What? My cool throne. He doesn't get serious. I'm going to use my serious card. Choo, choo, choo, rozzers, AWLs, stoolies, free money.

If you like free money, this is something that we've been working on for upwards of like eight months. It was something I was supposed to start right when the coronavirus pandemic started. So it got pushed off. It is my baby. You can't normally was I have multiple babies work on normally for eight months. Exactly. Playbar Stool. It's an app you can download today. Today is the launch of the app.

Within that is going to be Stool Streams, which is my baby. Jake is like, I guess, you know, he's kind of like my co. My mom, my mom in this situation. We it's our baby together. Wait, so Jake is your mom. So it's Jake's brand. Jake is the mom. The mom.

You have the baby. My seed. My seed. Razors is my seed. You know what, Hank? I think you're the. No, it's you're the mom. The mom is my seed. It came from me. Yeah. Oh, Jake's the dad.

And you're helping. And you're the one who's held it. In your body. Host it. Yeah, Jake's carrying it. What's Billy? Billy is not involved. OK.

That's actually a great selling point. Yes. Playbar Stool. You can download in the app store. We're going to be doing broadcasts every day. And the kick is that if you it's six, six questions, you can fill it out in a minute. If you go six for six, you win $500. What? Free to play.

So it takes a minute to fill out. All you have to do is download the Playbar Stool app in the app store. We're going to be doing them two times a week to start. We're going to work our way up to more. PFT, you guys are going to be in the first Jenga broadcast a week from today, a week from Wednesday. Playbar Stool, download the app, rated five stars. Let's get that thing going.

And that's my serious card. $500. $500. And it's no one goes six for six. So let's say, you know, five, 10,000 people all enter the contest. No one goes six for six. It carries over to the next contest. So that the winner of the next contest wins $1,000. So is that one 1500?

So we're going to be playing like ping pong on it. Yes. And then people can watch at home and what can they do to interact? They make they can make picks. So it's like there's going to be three matchups per broadcast. Let's say it's, you know, me and PFT, Jake and Marty Mosh and Hubs and Frankie Borelli. You make picks for each of those three.

If you download the app, you'll understand it. But you make picks if you go six for six, five hundred dollars in your pocket. No questions. Question, Hank. Yes. Wait, oh, you just said no questions. That's never mind. No, you can ask.

Oh, question, Hank. What's what's stopping someone from throwing games and having a huge scandal take over Stoolstreams? Every contestant that is involved in Stoolstreams will be signing a waiver. If they break any of the rules on that waiver, they will be blackballed from the league forever. I haven't signed a waiver yet.

I just like to say that. OK, what happens if you blackball everyone in the office? Then you'll all probably get in trouble from our parent company, Penn National, because, you know, this is, you know, this is a greater. This is a greater company. This is a greater company initiative. So if you guys are a big hat,

I mean, I know you have stock in the company. I feel like you should be trying to, you know, help boost it up. But if you choose not to, that's, you know, that's your decision. Oh, I listen, Hank, don't accuse me of anything. Don't say that we're not. I'm asking that we're not the stocks. Me, I'm saying it should go up. I'm like the stocks.

I'm like the fucking hacker and in the social network. I'm trying to just find the holes so they can help you out. Yes, there will be absolutely no, you know, no cheating. We're on the up and up. No, no. Listen, I have integrity for the game. No point shaving. No point.

I don't think you can point shave Jenga. No, you can't. It's true. There are no points. Billy's thinking about it. Billy will figure out a way. Playbar stool in the app store. Please download it.

My life depends on it. Oh, actually, yes, I do. I need a shit. Wow. If playbar stool doesn't do well, you will give Norman away. No. You have to get a cat. It doesn't depend on it.

Come on. Hank, Hank has to get a cat. If it doesn't go well, why don't we say more than 25,000 people sign up? How about if more than 200,000 people sign up on Drop Day? I will get a cat. OK, there you go. 200,000. Yeah, we get to pick out the cat.

No, it has to be hypoallergenic. My girlfriend's allergic to cats. It's got to be a certain cat. It's got to be a certain type of hypoallergenic. I still get to pick it out. We'll get one of those fucking shades. As long as it's hypoallergenic. 200,000.

Day one. What do you got, Billy? We should get him one of those cats without any fur. Yeah. The ones that look like make it more. Yeah. OK, 200,000 people downloaded today. There's a lot of people.

I'll get a cat. Give them till Thursday afternoon. Big cat, isn't there like a, there's like a Filipino service. I think it's called Odesk, where you can pay guys to just download apps to like. No, we need to figure that one out. Real downloads. OK, yeah, real downloads. Real downloads.

You got it. So you will get a cat. Real cat. 200,000 people. Yep. All right. Let's fucking do it. Everyone do it.

No, but seriously, we're very excited for this. Play Barstool. In the App Store. Got it. In the App Store. In the App Store. Wherever you download apps. And if you want to watch some of the broadcasts,

tool streams, YouTube channel, we've uploaded all the, you know, that we've done a lot of practice runs, a lot of stuff like that. Check that out. See the product. Any questions? You probably saw a bunch of it in Grit Week, like how we were doing it. It's it's fucking sick. Yes.

Yeah. And everything you've seen has nothing. Jake was born for this. Yeah. It is just a very, very small appetizer of what we're going to be putting on here. Right. And with the money involved, you can win money free to enter. No risk.

High reward. It takes a minute to fill out your picks. Jake, your fellow Medill grads. I'm not in a Medill. You know who went to Medill? Jake. Michael Wilbarn. Hitler.

And Revelle. All right. So your fellow Medill grads, are they like, dude, that's sick. You're getting to call Jenga. Yeah. I mean, it is. Yeah, I'm excited. It's awesome.

No, I'm the dream. Yeah. I'm going to prep for every broadcast as if I'm calling. Game 7 of the World Series. Yes. Yes. I mean, you prep for every match that I beat Hank and Ping Pong. Right.

We do pregame production meetings and everything. Like, yeah. No, you're incredible for the job. I'm very excited for all of this. Thank you. Good job, Hank. Good job. Worked his ass off for all this and finally unveiling.

Jake, the dad, Hank, the mom. Good job, Billy, for just staying out of the way. All right. PFT, what's your hot seat cool to run? My hot seat is the coronavirus. That's right. It's back on the hot seat because we've discovered a vaccine. And that's just being Gardner-Minshew.

Yes. So Gardner-Minshew tested positive and he said that the virus took one look at him and turned the other way. So even though we reported on Monday that Gardner was out for the season, that was a mistake, which I did correct in real time. As I learned what the COVID list was, Gardner just shook off the virus in, I think, a day and a half, two days. So just be Gardner-Minshew.

Be Minshew-like. Drink from the hose when you're a kid. What was his quote? Took one look at me and ran the other way about coronavirus. Boom. I like that. My other hot seat is Vince McMahon because the rock purchased the XFL. And my understanding of the situation is Vince had a shell company that ran the

XFL last year, right? That company declared bankruptcy. It was going to go up for auction. I believe today it was going to go up. The rock swooped in, bought it for 15 million before it went to an open auction. And I think that this is work. I think that I think that this is WWE situation where the rock bought McMahon's baby from underneath him, and now it's going to be like a WWE style feud,

which is what the XFL should be in the first place. It should be about like entertainment, you know, it should be about like have all these back storylines where maybe like a popular podcaster gets a job on things like that to goose up the ratings a little bit. But the rock is going to be running the show. I think it's going to be electric entertainment when it does come back. And I think they're going to bring it back in February again. I'm not going to say anything because I don't want to hurt your feelings.

Thank you. Big categories of everything that I just said. I'm going to abstain. But I did opt out of the NFL. Yes, that's true. So all that shit that I was talking about going to MetLife, this is just mostly me not having to travel to MetLife Stadium every Sunday, which is only like 30 minutes away, but still it's Sunday.

I want to be watching the pregame shows. So I'm opting out of the NFL. I am declaring myself eligible for the XFL again when it starts in February. My cool throne is milk. Milk is on the cool throne. Derek Jeter. What are you looking at me like that? I don't know.

I'm ready for milk. Derek Jeter said that one of the guys on the Marlins tested positive. He wasn't going out. These guys weren't going out and partying. One went to a dinner at a house. He didn't specify what house it could have been international house of pancakes or waffle house, but it was at a house. He went out for dinner, not at a party.

And the other person that got it went out to get a glass of milk. So I'm actually, I, I would understand leaving a hotel room to go out to get a glass of milk if you have like a dry batch of cookies. If you, milk is one of those things where if you get it in your head that you need a glass of milk, you have to go get a glass of milk. You know, you got a hankering for it. Absolutely. If it's beer, it's like, dude, just don't have a beer or just get one out of your

mini fridge. They don't have milk in mini fridges in hotel rooms. If you get it in your head that you're thirsty and you need milk to wash down and Oreos gets where you're going to do come hell or high water. You're going to go get some fucking milk milk. And did you see chocolate milks viral marketing campaign? No. Katie Ledecky swimming the length of a.

Oh yeah, that was sick. Was that hard? No. Spins out. Everyone was like, this is the craziest thing ever. And I'm actually just asking the question was that hard? I don't know. I think it's yeah, it's pretty difficult.

Like that's not something that it'd be like if someone shot a basketball from. I don't think you can walk the same distance with a child. Like, yes, it's hard. OK, I've never I don't have anything to compare. No one in this room could do more than like two strokes. I totally disagree. Also, she I believe was wearing a snorkel. So she couldn't move her head at all.

The normal swimming stroke, you're taking your breath. That's true. That would require you moving your head a lot with a snorkel. I could do it. It just means she has great swimming for them. That was sort of yeah, that's a good balance. So I could get that linear travel. Yeah, I mean, we don't we would never know because we only swim under water at

the Everbank Jacksonville. All right, my hot seats is. Unfortunately, our good friend Jim Harbaugh, because there was a story told on a podcast, what podcast was it? I don't even know. One of those podcasts out there, what? Jim Harbaugh, another milk fan. Yes, another milk fan.

He would absolutely leave the hotel room. He has and he will again. Isaiah Wilson said that he was going to he was being recruited by Michigan. And he decided not to go there because when Harbaugh came for the visit, Harbaugh didn't take his cleats off inside. It actually was bustling with the boys. That was a callback joke to the time we didn't give him a shout out and they got really mad. It's our good friends, Will Compton and Taylor Luan.

They had Isaiah Wilson on and he said, yeah, Saban didn't hug him. So he didn't go to Alabama and Harbaugh was. That would be a plus for me. Yeah. Harbaugh's clacking around the hardwood floors with his cleats on it. So buried in that story is the fact that Harbaugh travels with cleats. So like he's riding in a car with cleats. He's probably hitting the gas pedal with cleats.

He's getting on an airplane. Yes, they tell him to take his shoes off at TSA. He's like, fuck you, I'm not wearing shoes. Yes, these are cleats, cleats, cleats. So that's just Harbaugh being Harbaugh. My cool throne. What are you going to say, Billy? I screamed against Isaiah Wilson once.

Really? Yeah. Fuck you up school. No, they weren't allowed to touch me. I was a quarterback. Yeah. My cool throne is I have two. Big Ben is on my cool throne because Big Ben, no one likes to tell you how injured

they are as much as Big Ben. So he did an interview on ESPN and talked about all the elbow injuries that he had last year. So he said, as far as I'm aware, it's happened to it's just sorry. It's happened to just kind of everyday people on the street, if you will. So you're like, oh, Big Ben's being relatable. And then the next sentence was from what I've been told, it's never happened to a quarterback of this magnitude.

I believe there was at least one other another quarterback that had one, maybe two torn off, but from what I understand, not three. So he's flexing about his three torn ligaments in his elbow. Do you have three ligaments in your elbow? Big Ben does. Big Ben does. But just such a funny like Big Ben, hey, want to ask me how injured I was? Oh, you asked.

Oh, well, now that you're asking, I was very interested. It's never been seen before. They should rename that. Like you have your Achilles heel. You've got Rothless burger elbow means you can't jack off anymore. It's incredible. I can't believe he's still alive. My other cool throne is Lakers fans because after they clinched the number one

seed, Kyle Kuzma tweeted real Laker fans. Remember the losing seasons? Here you go. Number one, they haven't been in the playoffs for five years, but I would agree. Real Laker fans, they remember, you know, it was tough to go from Kobe and Shaq to just Kobe, to just LeBron, to LeBron and AD. It's been a lot of lean years in there. You're forgetting when they went from Magic Johnson to Kobe and Shaq.

Well, from Kareem to Magic. Oh, yeah. And then you're forgetting before that. So, well, he didn't really win that much. But yeah, it's been real ones. No, it's been, yeah, it's been a lean years for sure out in LA. It's tough. What's it been like as a Laker Dan fan? Well, no, no, you're a Laker Dan fan. I'm a Laker Dan fan.

Yes, yes, there's a lot of Laker Dan fans who are not fans of Lakers, but are fans of Laker Dan and the implications. You should absolutely get on TV as a Laker fan. As I'm going to try to the number one Laker fan, Laker Dan. But yeah, the it's so funny. Whenever I treated there, some of you were like, oh, the fuck you a Laker fan? I'm just I'm just a Alex Caruso fan.

I root for one guy and that's him in the Black Oaks loss at one in the morning. I just treated. Well, still have my Lakers and everyone's like, what the fuck? All right, Billy, you're hot seat, cool throne. OK, well, I remember the last person who does hot seat, cool throne. So all the ones I had lined up sometimes get taken. Pretend that we didn't do it yet and rattle them off. OK, well, I was going to go cool throne XFL

and my hot seat was going to be milk getting milk. But my new one, my hot seat is trees. Trees around the hot seat. Yeah, because it's hurricane season and a lot of trees go down. Wait, so Billy, this hot seat is literally you looking outside the window. No, no, it goes deeper than that. This hot seat was Billy trying to reinforce to us why he was late today, because there was a tree that was blown down across one street allegedly.

So this is Billy reminding us that it wasn't his fault. He was late again. Billy, correct me. My theory is you woke up this morning or maybe even went to sleep last night and you're like, oh, hurricane, I can just leave late for work and then say there was a hurricane. No, it's a tropical storm officially. And I gave myself an extra 30 minutes and texted PFT early. And why did you just text PFT?

Well, because usually when I told you we had to think that I think he does that because he sometimes texts me. Yeah. So he does the thing where he texts one of us. He plays us against each other. Well, I texted you guys. Yeah, I told me it was OK. The hot OK hot seat trees because they fall down a lot in hurricanes. OK. And everyone's power.

I also have no power. You live in a barn, though. So you have hot, hot seat power looking at you right now. You don't have a lot of power. Oh, it's true. Very true. You're fat, fat ass. I'm not hard.

You lost a lot of dead lift, dead lift ability. I Billy, fat ball. No, I'm not. Jiggly football, belly football, belly football. I'm not fat anymore. I'm not fat. My body fat percentage is probably way lower than yours. But it's been a 35 year old father.

No way, dude. Also, Billy, I ran a marathon. You're not. You did. No one can throw you a soy boy if you're fat. Yeah, the only thing is that we should make big football shirts, belly shirts. No, yeah, that'd be cool. You know, three of them, but it would be funny.

Uh, cool thrown salmonella. What was that? Why don't you figure out what's going on with Drake instead? Uh, what is going on with Jake? Well, it's more is PFT's favorite rapper. You know, he's posting like basketball clips, getting roasted on the internet for having to dribble and now J Cole just got offered a trial with the Pistons. Fuck. So Drake as a as a ball or a hot seat.

That sucks. Sorry, PFT. Heartbreaking. All right. Good try, Billy. You're Billy's back. You're back. I got the nicest tweets. Someone was like, you're definitely WLs know that Billy never left. Yeah. And thanks, guys. You're definitely fatter than Rathausberger, though. Oh, yeah. He's skinny.

Way fatter. He said he's like in the best shape of his life right now. I'm like close. After that marathon, I like have a four pack. I'm going to pull up the quote. You're the second fattest guy here behind me. No, Rathausberger said I'm lighter than I've been in 13 or 14 years. I think Jake is sneaky fast. No, I knew you were going to say that.

He gets away like you and Jake have a little thing I don't know. I don't you know, we've actually accidentally. Hold on, Jake, what we've accidentally done. We've created the Brady Bunch. No, we've recreated Salisbury and what's his name? Oh, Clayton Clayton. Yeah, we literally recreated Salisbury and Clayton with Billy. Yeah, Billy. I mean, you just don't say your dick to anyone.

Yeah. Jake, find or PFTs. Yeah, especially that find a picture of Billy with a shitty haircut that you can bring up all the time. We got to do it. Call him a nerd more often. We're going to have you guys debate each other. We're going to have you guys do it. Yeah. That question.

Yeah. OK, Billy, I will give you credit. I was a little chunky in my high school days. I was my calm cake because my my home friends call me cake. They still do because everyone loves cake and everyone loves Jake. Right. There you go. That's why. That's why. Very cool. That's very cool. My very, very cool. My birthday junior year, they told me to come outside

and they just caked me in the face. What? They just threw a cake. Damn. Those are your friends, bro. No, they are. That's funny. They are. Billy. Don't. I thought I was a little hesitant because I thought they they were doing it because I was a little chunky back in the day.

But the slogan makes sense. Yes, everyone. Everyone does love Jake and everyone does love cake. Right. Yeah. No, that actually makes perfect sense. They don't say that about belly football. Not everyone loves belly. No, no one loves bills. Billy, did your friends ever throw in? One loves QB. One loves water seals. Yeah. I didn't hear what he said.

Yeah, he burned you. Yeah. I would actually like to congratulate Hank on his duo's win with Lenny. What is this? What are we doing? Is this a show for him? Is this just like a hot mic time? I don't know. All right, let's get to the change here.

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Now, JJ Redick. OK, we now welcome on a recurring guest, friend of the program, and apparently he's coming for our job because he's got a new podcast company. It's JJ Redick. 3, 4, 2 productions was announced this week. The old man in the 3 is his new podcast with our friend Tommy Alter.

Congratulations on that, JJ. We're going to talk basketball, but let's talk podcasting first. What gives, man? Well, my contract with the ringer was up. I'd been there for three years. And for Tommy and I, we just wanted to own the podcast. I figured like I had been doing podcasts for four years,

and it felt like it was time for me to actually own the podcast. And look, we're going to take our time with the company, but the goal is just to develop and build out a little podcast network and see where it goes. So you have, I'm sure, been talking to a lot of people about podcasting, lawyers, producers, all that stuff. I mean, you have two experts here.

You got any questions? I was actually wanting to ask you guys what you thought of the name, the old man in the 3. Right off the bat, you're eliminating a big portion of the sports podcast audience because you're using a book pun. Yeah, and you're like, I'm smarter than everyone in Hemingway. So we are actively trying to get as far away

from books as possible. I guess you're the thinking man's NBA podcast. So Ernest Hemingway, you couldn't have gone with like, for whom the ball tolls. That could have been good. That was good. A farewell to arms because you're getting skinny these days and you're not as swell as you used to be.

You could have gone with a couple other directions if you're going Hemingway. But all in all, I mean, it's good. It's not part of my take, which is completely original. You had to base yours off something else. And you also, I noticed you did the three, four, two productions. I was like, huh, that's funny.

What is that? And then I read up about it and you, at the end of your workouts, you have to make 342 shots. Or no, on Sundays, is that right? Yeah, every Sunday during the off season. So that's bullshit. That's bullshit that you made the production company so that everyone has to ask you like,

oh, JJ, you make 342 shots on Sundays. Tell us what that's about. It's self-serving to my ego, for sure. It's self-serving to the ego. Yeah, I did have a question. As you know, Tommy is a good friend of ours. If you guys don't know Tommy Alter, anytime you see me and Big Cat in a picture

with random celebrities that we probably shouldn't be hanging out with, it's because Tommy arranged a dinner that we tagged along for. My question for you is, what is Tommy's job? I've known Tommy for four years. I still don't know what his job is. He has titles.

I know he works at Desus and Mero. I know he works on the shop. He works on my podcast, our podcast, but I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I think he needs, honestly, he needs to come out with a little bit of like some clarity on what exactly his role is in this whole thing. I mean, there's the whole mystery aspect of it

which kind of makes it more intriguing. It's like, oh, who is this guy? Isn't it remarkable though how many people he knows? He knows everybody, literally everybody. Everyone. Last year I took a vacation with him and I left. I flew home right after the fourth of July from Amsterdam and then Tommy was like, oh, you should've stuck around

and we hung out with Lizzo the next day. And I guess Lizzo took my spot on the vacation and immediately increased the clout of that crowd. So yeah, you've got a podcast right now. Is he with you in the bubble? I tried to sneak him in. He did not fit into the NBA's protocol. He is, he's just in LA, man.

We're just, we're like you guys, we're recording over Zoom. Only we're not six feet apart. So it's, you know, the Zoom thing for us, and I'm sure for you guys too, has just been a game changer the last five months. And apparently Zoom existed before the pandemic. Nope, that's false. No chance it did.

We all just found out about it. So who's the better podcaster in the NBA? You or CJ McCollum? Ooh, CJ has a good podcast. I think I have a great podcast. Oh, this league, big time. We had CJ on Monday's show. I noticed that his room is a little bit bigger than yours.

What's up? Do you, like 14 years in the league, you didn't get a bigger room than that? No, I actually got the smallest room of anyone on my team. And most of the guys are on the other side of the hallway and their patio looks at the pool. Drew Holiday sent me a picture. His patio actually looks at this big open field.

Brandon Ingram is two doors down from me. He has a fucking apartment with a kitchen and like three bedrooms. My patio looks at a bush. I look, I literally look at a green bush. That's it. So what, I don't know what happened. Why didn't you get any respect?

Yeah, what the hell? You've been in a league for a very long time. Apparently there were four rooms for every team that were considered like the upgraded rooms. And I see where I fall in the hierarchy with the Pelicans. It's blatantly obvious. It's blatantly obvious. What about Zion?

Where'd they put him up? I'm sure he's got one of the four rooms. I think it's BI, BI for sure, Zion. I would guess Drew has some sort of upgrade. I think he has like, do you guys see that door behind me? Yeah. Do you see the door behind me? Yeah.

That's like to a connecting room. Drew has access to his connecting room. I do not. I got it. Got it. So the NBA restart, it's been fantastic. It really has kind of felt, at least from the viewer's perspective,

like the energy's there. They've done the best they can without fans. Has it felt weird playing in the games? Has it felt a little like different? And how so like, game to game with no one in the stands? Yeah, the scrimmages were super weird. They hadn't started pumping in crowd noise, which is a topic that I want to talk about

because that in itself is bizarre. But the scrimmages, it was just like a quiet, sullen gym. And when you shoot free throws, you could hear a pin drop. And so I'm just worried the whole time that somebody on the other team is gonna, you know, screen something out right as I get ready to shoot. It also feels like you're on a Broadway stage

because there's like makeshift locker rooms and you walk down a corridor and there's these giant curtains and you walk through the curtains and boom, you're sort of on stage. There's these bright lights that are on scaffolds. I've watched games on television. It looks normal.

It looks like you're watching a summer league game. While you're playing, it does not feel normal at all. So with the pumping crowd noise, is it to the point where it's about the same volume as a normal basketball game? Or can you still hear everybody else as they're chirping you on the court? Well, it's because it's coming in from like an audio system.

And I don't know, I don't feel like Disney has necessarily upgraded their audio system in the last 10 or 15 years. So it's very muffled. It's just like muffled noise in the background. And we're playing last night against Memphis and we get towards the end of the game and Alvin Gentry, who's obviously an older gentleman.

He's wearing a mask and he's screaming instruction at us while Memphis is shooting free throws. This is down the stretch of the game and no one can understand what he's saying. You can't read his lips. He's got a fucking mask on. That's a good show. So I feel like in a normal game, right on free throws,

what do you hear? You hear murmurs. Everybody's sort of murmuring, right? There's not like real noise. And for us, it's like constant audio input while we're playing. What about the fake fans that are in the audience, the screens? Can you see all those people at home?

Or we can see them at home. Can you see them while you're playing? Yes, and what do you think of the fake fans? I don't mind them. I like them. I mean, they're real fans, I guess. They're real people. They're real people.

They're just not there. I applied today to be a virtual fan for Laker games. Really? I thought you'd be a fan for the Bulls. Oh, never mind, never mind. Sorry, never mind. Oh, okay. Listen, I...

Listen, the wizards got invited and the Bulls didn't. Good thing, JJ, you won last night because this podcast is gonna be a full roast show about how your playoff streak is coming to an end. But I guess technically you guys are still alive right now. Have you thought about that? Because everyone's talking about it. JJ Redick always made the playoffs,

which you must have won a couple titles. No, and thank you for that. Thank you, that's not a sore subject at all for me, believe me. Are you though conscious of it? Because it is very impressive to be in the league for 14 years and always be on a team that makes the playoffs. That's an impressive feat.

When it got to year 10 or 11, I was like, oh, wait a minute, I've never missed the playoffs. The first six or seven years, it's just normal. And then you get later on in your career and then you're like, oh, I kinda want this streak to stay alive for my whole career. But the funny thing is when I went to Philly,

obviously I went to Philly to take the one-year bag, we all know that. But when I went to Philly, I didn't, I expected us to make the playoffs because I actually thought that team was built really well with Joel and Ben. But there was really no guarantee that that would happen. And the same thing happened coming to New Orleans

and the Western Conference obviously top to bottom is probably a little bit stronger. So I'm honestly just happy to be in a position where if we went out, we're gonna be in the playing game. If we went out, we're gonna be in the playing game. And that is credit to Zion, because did the NBA give you guys a memo or did they just give you a wink like,

hey, we're building all these rules just to have Zion in the playoffs? Which we said we've been longstanding, we're totally cool with because we want Zion in the playoffs. So we're cool with everything they've done, but it felt like it was all built for the Pelicans and Zion to get to the playoffs.

I would agree with that. Maybe not all of it, but certainly a large portion of having these play-in games and these seeding games was for Zion. Yeah, that's true. I mean, it's a superstar league. This is why we watch basketball. We watch basketball for obviously for team greatness,

but mostly for individual greatness. We watch basketball so we can talk about James Harden or talk about Yanis or talk about LeBron or Zion in this case. Like that's why people love the NBA. And in some ways we've commodified this into an individual sport, which is sometimes frustrating, I think.

Not necessarily like I'm frustrated with Zion. It becomes frustrating for me to think about the average fan and how they view the NBA because to me, basketball is sort of the ultimate team sport. Maybe soccer is the other one, but those two are the two. Well, the frustrating part from a fan perspective is if you don't have one of the top 10 guys,

it feels like your team's going absolutely nowhere. And to get one of those, it's kind of, you mentioned Yanis, I don't like the box, I hate box fans, but I feel for them sometimes because we're two years away from Yanis being a free agent and we're already talking about him being a free agent. And sometimes it feels like the NBA is more about that

than it is about the actual game being played. That's a very valid point. It's a complaint of mine. I don't know if I've ever really talked about it publicly, but it's certainly a complaint of mine that so much attention's paid to the trade deadline and the draft and free agency and two years away from ex-players free agency.

We don't focus enough on the actual game at times. And I just want to point something out about the basketball, the basketball itself so far in the bubble. Like we're seeing high level games. I'm actually pleasantly surprised, maybe even a little bit shocked at how in shape everybody has been. The shot making has been unbelievable.

That Boston Portland game down the stretch, it was like big shot after big shot, right after that, Jaren Jackson hits that unbelievable shot to tie the game against San Antonio. Our first game against Utah, that was a great game. Lakers and Clippers right after that great game. It's just been high level basketball. It's been amazing.

It's been incredible. And I was cautiously optimistic going in, but it has reached all of those marks for me, that Bucks Rockets game. I watched that entire game, I think it was Sunday night. And I was just thinking the whole time, I can't wait for the playoffs because this is going to be phenomenal.

These teams are locked in and you're right. I don't know if it's better shooting background or maybe the defense hasn't been all the way there because it's hard to talk on defense when we haven't seen your guys in five months. But it's been high paced and high scoring which I think most people want to see. Except the old 1990s NBA fans

who want to watch 81 to 79 basketball. By the way, have you guys ever like rewatched the 2005 Spurs Detroit Pistons finals? Yeah, great, great series. Highly competitive, but it's like 71 to 69. I'm always shocked just watching games from, you know, just 15 years ago when they come up on my TV and you see the resolution, it's not high definition.

It looks like it was 1987. It's like, Holy shit, I can't believe I actually sat down and was looking forward to watching these games in 2005. That series was very, very funny because it was, I don't think anyone, I think the, I'm looking at it right now. The Pistons went to, scored over a hundred in game four,

but there was an overtime game that was 96, 95. An overtime game. And then game seven was 81, 74 was a final. Which is like 81, 74 is a low scoring game when the third quarter ends right now. That Mavs, was it the Mavs Houston game? Yes, it was like 85, 75. It was an all star game.

It was an all star game. Yes, yes. I'm looking at your contracts right now actually. So let's talk about you because the JJ Redick impending unrestricted free agency begins the exact same year as Giannis. So everyone's talking about like, what's JJ gonna do in two years?

Is he gonna retire and become full-time podcaster? Or is he waiting to see where Giannis goes? Then he's gonna ride the coattails there, try to win that first boat. From my understanding after Giannis, I think I am the number two free agent. That summer. Yeah, that's what I'm looking at right now.

Yeah, no, for sure. You know what, Dan and I have actually talked about this a bunch, but when you have kids, your perspective changes on things and my boys are getting ready to be six and four next month, or actually this month in about three weeks. They'll be six and four at the end of August. And being away from them for the last six weeks

while we've been in New Orleans and been here, you really feel like you're missing out on a lot. And when this contract is up, I think I will have to sort of go year by year. Obviously you wanna be offered a job and my body has to be able to function and I have to be able to play. But at some point, the family stuff will outweigh

my love for the game. It's inevitable. I know it's coming. So nets are nicks. That makes sense. And would you actually finally break it on, pardon my tape, because when you signed with the Pelicans, I don't know if I said this out loud.

It was very frustrating, but I saw you like three hours before on the street and you almost told me. I wanted to tell you so bad. I wanted to tell you so bad. I saw it in your face. It's like, where are you going? And you're like, I can't say. And then it was like, no joke,

like maybe an hour and a half later. It was like, JJ right at the Pelicans. It's like, come on, dude. Give us one more. To be fair, he gives it to Woj, because Woj gave him his start writing about the NBA. That's true. So you have to scratch his back.

That's true. What's crazy is that I don't give Woj anything. I mean, we talk about this as players all the time. Like if you don't want Woj to know something, don't tell your agent. Do not, the agents are the ones that are, it's not even leaking. It's just like, hey, my guy's gonna go here or whatever.

But I mean, we can all agree. Like he tweeted this out at, you know, the deadline started at free agent start at 6pm that Sunday. He tweets out at 6.01pm. You know, JJ is going to the Pelicans. It's pretty obvious I had made my decision prior to the start of free agency. So I had known for basically like a week

that I was going to New Orleans. And so when you asked me that, because I had already told my family members, I'd already told people. It just, it was almost like second nature where I was like, no, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go play for the Pelicans. Damn.

And then I was like, probably not a good idea. Cause he would. I would have tweeted it right away. No, you would have definitely tweeted it. I know you would have. I would have actually been like, hold on, say it again for the camera. And like had you on camera saying it,

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Like, have you been like, how much did you get? How much did I get? Kind of compare, or do you not do that? Did we lose you? He froze. He froze? You're staying in Motel 6 in Orlando. You didn't compare.

All right, so Zion won't tell you how much Coach K paid him. Got it. I'm not touching any of that. I'm not touching anything. Right, because you just don't. All right, I understand. It makes sense. Like, don't ask, don't tell, kind of thing with Coach K.

You know, he takes care of his guys. Listen, man, Coach K has never, never done that to my knowledge. He definitely didn't pay me. Personal. Jeff Kaepel pays him. Jeff Kaepel pays him. That's right. Got it.

Jeff Kaepel's not even there anymore. He's not even there anymore. I know, I know. It's going to probably hurt Duke. Isn't that convenient? Or it's going to help. Now there's no fingerprints whatsoever on it. You guys are ridiculous.

You know how to know this was coming. Hey, have you guys talked about this on your show yet, by the way? What's going on with these, these, the Pac-12 players? Yes. We mentioned it briefly on a Sunday night show. So we are, we're, we're of the mindset that like, yeah, ask for whatever you want.

Like, why not anchor the conversation. Right. With all your demands, and then maybe you'll get some of them. And also, if Doug Gottlieb thinks it's a bad idea, that means it's probably a good idea. Yeah, his takes are terrible. I read his back. I read his back and forth with Bimani Jones.

I think that was yesterday. I mean, it's just, that was God awful. Yes. It's interesting. I think given what COVID has done to some of these athletic departments, it's inevitable now. It's inevitable that, you know, Power Five, football, and basketball players are going to be compensated in some form.

It's inevitable. Right. It's going to happen. And not, I'm not just saying from the likeness. Obviously, you know, the NCAA, I think, is going to allow players to use their likeness starting after next season. But it's inevitable that there's going

to be some form of compensation. I read this great article. I think Mina Kimes actually put it out about athletic department spending, how essentially the way these departments work is the more money they intake, the more money they spend. So when they say, well, we don't have any money to pay the players, it's because they've upgraded the bus

or you're now flying on a nicer private plane, or you have a 80-foot scoreboard instead of a 60-foot scoreboard. So the money's being spent. It's not like they're just hoarding this revenue. We're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue. They're not hoarding it. They're spending it. But the people who are actually earning the money,

i.e. the players, the product, they're not necessarily reaping the financial rewards of that. Yeah, I've been lucky enough to tour a few different football facilities. And it's incredible because the amount of money they pour into those facilities is insane. And essentially, it's an arms race where the minute you break ground with the facility,

it's already ready to do it again in 10 years. Because that's just what they keep doing. And everyone keeps building these insane places like, hey, we've got a bowling alley. We're not going to pay you, but you've got a nap pod, but we're not going to pay you. From your perspective and your personal perspective, when you were at Duke, did you feel

like you were being taken advantage of? It didn't really cross my mind a ton. And I don't want to say I was naive, but in a sense I was because I had grown up in ACC country. I had grown up two hours from Tobacco Road. And my entire life, all I wanted to do was play for Duke. And so while I was there, it was like living out your wildest dream every day.

And I remember my senior year, I got wind of the fact that just the bookstore on campus, just that one individual location, had sold something like 5,000 Duke for Nike jerseys. And those jerseys were going for like 75 bucks, 100 bucks, somewhere around that at the time. And I thought to myself, man, obviously the school is profiting off this with their licensing agreement.

Nike's profiting off of this. The NCAA, I'm sure, is getting a cut. I had to take out a loan my senior year, just so I could pay bills, because I didn't have cash flow. My scholarship check was not covering my basic living expenses. And believe me, I was not living extravagantly. I just wanted to buy food.

And that was that year. And obviously, too, we're selling out everywhere we go. We're playing on ESPN every game. I'm on the cover of magazines. That was the first time it hit me. Maybe this system is set up incorrectly. And it is. The hard part of the argument is,

the 1% are really getting screwed. The guys who are, they're selling jerseys. And they're on covers, like the JJ Reddix. Whereas there's also a lot of, if you're looking at a football team, there's, I don't know, 80 out of 100 guys, or 85 out of 100 guys who aren't gonna sniff the pros, who probably are having a great experience

getting a scholarship, getting to be a part of a team in a division one atmosphere that's really, really cool. But it is that those big money driver guys that are getting basically robbed of a few years of high earning years for them. Yeah, I don't think there's an easy answer to this debate. It's a very complicated issue.

When you add in the fact that there are non-revenue producing sports, and how those sports ultimately get funded. Anecdotally, I saw in one of these articles I was reading the other day that Mina put out, she was talking about how D2 and D3 athletic departments have numerous sports. They have La Crosse, they have tennis.

They're able to fund those places. So it's, every time this sort of comes up, I always say like, I don't know what the answer is in terms of compensation, what that looks like. Do we pay the best players more? Do we pay them less? Do we pay them a market rate? I don't know, but I know the system

that is in place right now is not how it should be. There needs to be some sort of change. To argue for amateurism, based on a system that was set up in the 1930s and 1940s, prior to billion dollar TV contracts and ticket sales and merchandising, is crazy. Amateurism does not exist in high-level college basketball and high-level college football.

These guys are not amateurs. Yeah, yeah, I honestly think that they should just, they just put it all above board and be like, boosters can pay players and, because guess what, everyone's counter to that will be, well, Alabama and Clemson will win all the title. Well, that's what happens already, one. And two, guess what will also happen if boosters

can pay money to players above the board? I mean, rich people don't like to just hand their money away. So when they make a mistake on paying an 18-year-old kid and the kid doesn't pan out, they're gonna think twice about the next kid and it will correct and it will be a little bit overblown at first, but then it will kind of come back down to earth and I think you'll probably end up

with the same exact thing you have right now, except players getting a chance to make some money during their college. I actually think it might be a little more fair. It comes to that because it's not just the traditional powerhouses that have these dedicated rich alumni, that's spread out across the country. That's valid, yeah, that's a valid point.

Yeah, and if you- T-bone pickings, a whole mistake. If you make it, if you're donating to a state institution, you give some sort of tax break or something like that, imagine that if billionaires and millionaires could get tax breaks for paying players to attend their school, I'm sure things would kind of level out

all across the board instantly. You brought up Mina's name a couple of times, which is perfect because she fired off a tweet last night during your game I want to bring up. She said, every time Zion does a cool thing with JJ, I'm struck anew by the improbability of living in a moment where two of the NBA's most likable teammates went to Duke.

Do you feel like you've sold out because you're no longer looked at as the asshole and is that maybe why you're losing your love for the game, as you said earlier? So the only reason I played the game in the first place was to be an asshole? You like being an asshole? No, but think about that. Every player that goes to Duke to a certain extent,

they enjoy being hated. That's why you guys get together in those little huddles. Every time the ref blows their whistle, every five seconds at a Duke game, you guys get together, you huddle up. Suck the floor. Remember guys, everyone hates us. Okay, if you could take a time machine,

we go back to 2006 or five and be like, hey, in 2020, people are actually gonna want to hear what JJ Reddick says. Ugh, that's crazy. That's actually a wild thought. Yeah, no thanks, dude. You're gonna play a podcast, which you don't even know exists yet, of JJ Reddick talking and being like,

oh, he's actually an interesting likable guy. No thank you. Fuck that, I'm offing out at that point. Do you feel bad, though? Do you miss being hated? I still feel like I'm hated. No. No, you're not.

No, you're not. No, nothing like I was, nothing like at Duke. I think I talked about this the last time I was on the show. Like yeah, required therapy, man. I was fucking 19 years old and I had to deal with this. And you're already at that age, you're unsure of yourself. You have all these insecurities. We all have insecurities, but especially at that age,

you're sort of becoming an adult. And I didn't know how to deal with that. And so it became this cycle where I would see the hate, I would feel the hate, I would hear the hate, and then I would react to that. And then my reaction would garner more hate and more disdain. And that cycle just kept repeating itself. I feel like by my senior year,

I had sort of got the on-the-court antics under control, but people still loathe me. And then even when I got in the NBA, like I was having this talk the other day with one of my teammates, when I was first in the NBA, when I first got in the NBA and I wasn't playing, I could sense that people loved that.

They loved that I was stuck to the bench in Orlando. They enjoyed that. Like there was this sense of like, oh, people are really enjoying seeing me fail. Count me as one. So say something hate-out. I have no doubt that you were one of those people. Oh yeah, this guy's a bust.

Let's make you hate-able again. Say something controversial on our show. Tell everybody that you have a nickel-back tattoo that we can all make fun of. Call Cyan Fat. Yeah, call him. I do have a Kings of Leon tattoo. I'm very embarrassed about it.

I'm very embarrassed about it. That's pretty bad. That was a while. That was in 2016, huh? Endorse build-up. I got very bored, no, I got very bored during the lockout. I got very bored during the NBA lockout in 2011. And there was this, I don't even know how to scribe it.

It was a bar slash tattoo parlor slash teaching studio for pole dancing. Whoa. Yes, it was very odd. And Chelsea and I and our friends, we would go there on the weekends and we got to know the owners. And I think at some point, maybe Chelsea and her friends

maybe took one of those dancing lessons. And then I decided I was just going to get my forearm tatted and I ended up with Kings of Leon Lyric. I'm very embarrassed about it. That's hateable. That's hateable. That's good. We're making progress.

What's the lyric that you got? Your sex is on fire. It's from Pyro. It's from Pyro, the song Pyro. Single book of matches going to burn what's standing in the way. Oh, yeah, you're hateable. OK, you combine that and then maybe also bring back

the quarter sleeve cutoff that you used to wear. And I think we're back in business. Holy shit. I actually, I've been meaning the last few years because I got the I obviously got my sleeve. I got my sleeve put over sort of the Kings of Leon Lyric. It's also I should also point out there's a there's a match. And there's like some smoke coming off.

Oh, like you just blew out a match. It's a character reader. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, I want to get that portion lasered off. I'm going to get it lasered off. OK, it's going to be gone at some point. So so I'm less hateable. Yeah, no, you got to keep it.

So speaking of hateable, you played against the Grizzlies on Monday night. Is there a moment in the game where you lock eyes with Grayson Allen and you're like, yeah, dude, like, I know, we know. You're me. Like you. Yeah, you got you got it. Spider-Man meme.

Like we're the same guy. I don't think we're the same guy, but we've we've had a somewhat similar experience. So yes, Grayson and I have talked about it before. And there was definitely an acknowledgement last night. I like that. I like that you just like catch it. You can catch your guy, you know, across the court,

like there he is. OK, at least you know he won't trip you. That's nice. I actually thought there was a moment last night where he was going to he was going to do something like that. He refrained. Out of habit. You can see it in his eyes as he's like coming up on you.

Something didn't look right about his face. And I was like, ah, he's coming. He's coming. He goes in berserker mode and just sticks his leg out. And then just kind of blacks out for a second. Yes. So I I had two last questions. Well, actually, speaking of berserker mode,

you have a podcast company. I'm going to shout out again, three, four, two productions, which launched this week, the old man and the three. We have a podcast that we're ready to pitch you right now. I assume you're building shit. Let's do it. OK, so it's actually not ours. It's our intern, Billy, Billy football.

He's 21 and the podcast is just going to be called Who's Doing Steroids? And Billy is just going to talk about who he thinks is doing steroids at any given time. Are you in for it? That's more on brand with you guys. I don't know. I think I should take it.

I think you should take it. I'm not saying it's a bad podcast. I don't know. Let me pitch it. No, let me pitch it. I have a whole pitch. OK. Here we will pitch it.

OK, so it's going to be done seven days a week every morning. It's going to be snippets. It's going to be 20 minutes. And we're going to talk about a random dude. And we're going to say, is these on steroids or not? So we're going to take a random guy. We're going to be like, OK, Mike, the situation. Steroids.

And then we're going to explain why he's on steroids. We're going to explain quotes that show steroid rage. We're going to talk about his physique and what symbolizes so low body fat, high vascularity. That's a sign of anivar. That's a steroid. We're going to take guys who've admitted to being on steroids. And we're going to talk about their steroid cycles.

And then we're going to have a certain segment like one segment is athletes we definitely think are on steroids. And we're going to theorize who we think is on steroids. Yeah, no, it's a segment. No, no, no, it's athletes. But then we're going to do like Hollywood figures who are definitely on steroids.

And also, there's another segment here. Listen to the segment, people who should do steroids. Yes, that's my podcast. I hope you Simon, you're coming. Yes, you asked for this, JJ. You started a production company. You're going to get pitches. Actually, I actually don't hate the idea.

I don't know why it has to be a daily show. I think you may you may run out of people to accuse of doing steroids. That's my only knock on the show. You can accuse everyone. He's got the segment. Wait, wait, the title of the podcast is Who's Doing Steroids?

Question mark. That's not. We're not accusing. We're asking questions. To cover your ass, you're a businessman. Maybe the podcast is like, here are people who would sue us if we accuse them of doing steroids. And here's why I would say that they were doing steroids

and why they would sue us. Yeah, come on. I have a couple other podcast ideas. Let's do one more. One more. You know what? OK, all right. Yeah, one more, Billy.

Go ahead. OK, OK. This podcast is called Super Cool Animal Stories. And every week, we're going to go find the coolest animal stories we can on the internet. And Reddit, they don't even have to be like, we'll find some good sources. And then just talk about cute animal stories, violent animal

stories, shark attacks, bear attacks, cryptozoology attacks. We're going to have people who got abducted by aliens on the show and tell their story. Thanks again. That's another podcast. That's a different podcast. Don't cannibalize your own podcast. But I have so many podcast ideas.

I think I could really be an asset to you. He's up for you can sign, Billy. Full time. Take your $100 cash. Billy, just like you're asking, you're just an intern right now? You're just an intern? He's kind of more than an intern now.

He's got a $200,000 buyout. Yeah. So if you want to get him, pay us. Well, no, no, no. It's a $200,000 fee to negotiate with him. Oh, it's like Japanese baseball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you pay us $200,000, then the negotiation window opens,

and then you have to sign him. I also have a podcast on biohacking, where we talk about different research chemicals. Billy, Billy, I've actually got to go, Billy. I've got to go. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. You're really missing out here. Last question, JJ.

You became a meme, obviously, quickly on Saturday, I think it was. How quickly it was, the TV truck did you guys dirty. It was just a perfect montage of bad body language on the pelicans. And you were featured. How quickly after the game do you know, like, oh, shit, like they got me.

As soon as I turned my phone on, I had probably 15 text messages from people like you, from friends like you, that would send me sort of that sort of thing and be like, oh, shit, you're a meme. I wanted on the record that you have kind of bought your way of me not bashing you, because I think I just tweeted the clip and said the guys in the truck really did them dirty.

I saw that. Yeah, no, I give you credit. Thank you. You have my back on that. Because I could have. It was more like, hey, here's what's happening. I'm not going to say what everyone's thinking. Everyone else make the JJ Reddick jokes.

I didn't do it. I made a joke. I couldn't resist. It was a layup. Your legs were up. You looked like you were getting a pap smear. And they were talking about Zion Williamson's burst restriction.

And like all the stars were like, I got to make a joke that Zion just busted inside JJ too quickly. I'm sorry. So you haven't bought PFT's friendship yet. They forced my hand. Please subscribe and go listen to the old man in the three podcasts. First episodes are dropping Wednesday, August 5th,

and Thursday, August 6th. We've got Damien Lillard, Stacey Abrams, and a bunch of other big NBA guests lined up over the next two weeks. All right, thank you. Congratulations again, JJ. Thanks, JJ. I appreciate you guys.

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No, there are a lot of fans doing that behind him. It's fucking hilarious. That's incredible. That should be a poster right there. Move over to MJ vs. Jazz. I'm just happy. Sports. Sports, baby.

All right, so the only thing I noticed on Billy's sheet that we didn't really hit on is... Beef, there was a beef recall. There was a beef recall, and then obviously Clay Travis and Darren Ravel went at it on Twitter, and I actually, I'd rather just die. You'd have to read them fight on Twitter.

No matter who wins, we all lose in that confrontation. Yeah, like if you're like, hey, you have to go to prison for the next 20 years, or you have to spend the next two days reading their back and forth, I'd choose prison. Yeah, it's like the most popular nerd versus the least popular not nerd. Yes, yes, wait, which one's which?

They're both. They go back and forth. They just slide back and forth. Holy shit, do they suck. They are at the center of the Venn diagram of the most annoying type of people in the world. The two least 20 people, right? They've taken a singular Venn diagram of shit,

and they've just turned it into something that whenever they fight, they always get trending, and they always just screw up my timeline, because those are the last people I wanna see talking. They're the last faces I wanna see in my life. There are also two people who have somehow made their work in sports media without ever talking about sports.

They literally never talk about sports anymore. Well, either of them. Clay talks about not talking about sports. Right, and Darren talks about the business of sports which no one wants to talk about. God, they suck. They actually deserve a shit. This is all gonna end with Clay making Darren a job offer.

Yeah. And Darren probably accepting it if it's enough money. And then Jason Whitlock writing some stupid weird fanfic about how they're now like Godfather 2. Yeah, yeah. And Darren is Fredo, and they're gonna take him out on the boat. I think that's gonna be a wire situation.

Shit. The only other one I saw though was this guy. Karen. You got the weird seeds sent to him inside it? I noticed they stopped talking about the podcast charts since they're all fell all the way down too. I'm looking now. It seems like we've been doing this for five years now,

and it's weird how everyone always talks about the podcast charts for a while, and then just suddenly, and we don't really talk about it. That's weird. Well, we did when we first started. Yeah, but we realized what the game was. We realized what the game was,

and we're doing just fine. Remember when we were beating cereal? And we're like, we're the number one podcast. Yeah, that was a thrill. Yes, that's right. That is true. I give, everyone gets a grace period of the first two months of their podcast

to talk about how high it is rated. I will actually totally cop to that, but after that, it's like, come on, dude. But you are, or you aren't, and you aren't. The mystery seed, this is quite a story because I saw this over the weekend. It says, man plants mystery seeds from China. Here's what happened.

Now, Billy did not include what happened after the fact. So that's our cereal. Can we do the cereal music? Can we find out on Friday's show? Can you save that? No, it says it right now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't tell us. It literally, it doesn't say it.

Yeah, okay. No, Billy. No, we're going to save this. No, it doesn't, it literally doesn't say it. It says they are sending squash for some reason. We're going to save this. That's all it says. We're going to save this for Friday.

Billy, Billy, keep your mouth shut because this is a cliffhanger. Yeah, wait, Billy, I want actually an extra cliffhanger. So I want you to come on Friday. I want three things, two of them going to be lies, and one of them has to be the truth. Oh, he's not going to be here Friday. All right, Billy, you're fired.

We're going to get to the bottom of the mystery seed thing. But I saw the story over the weekend, and I guess the US government was saying, do not plant seeds that come shipped to you from China. Fuck that. If I get mystery seeds, the first thing I'm going to do is plant those. I'm going to water the hell out of them.

What if it was one of those stub hub ticketries? Yeah, there you go. What if it was a giant beanstalk that led you to a golden goose? Yeah, if I got a ticketry in the backyard, are you serious, dude? Just go to any game? I'm planting that tree.

Ticketry. Money tree. Trees, back on the pool throne. Fuck the money tree, ticketry. All right, so on Friday's part of my take, we will uncover the mystery of what happens when you plant the mystery seeds. Billy, you have to write us.

You have to write us. I was going to prepare it. Okay, so prepare it, and then we'll read it. Okay. All right, let's do guys on chicks, and let's get out of here. Is it weird talking about past relationship with your boyfriend, sex partners, dislikes, likes,

et cetera? No, because at some point, that's all you have to talk about with people. If you don't bring it up, then it becomes an issue, I think, after like a couple years, like, hey, it's weird that you never talk about anybody else. I don't think you should bring it up.

Yeah, I don't think you should bring it up. I think it's a bad idea. In what way? Are you saying like, are you saying like sex life? I think everything. I don't think it's ever like, hey, so I was thinking about my ex-boyfriend or ex-girlfriend.

I think it's one of those situations you just let the past be the past. Don't need to talk about it. That's, it just will always end up in something bad. Don't go in the past. Hello, sir cat. Hello, sir commenter, sir cat, and the other guys. Recently, my Twitter crush slid into my DMs

and we were having the best conversations about sport and life and whatnot. Recently, I sent up a nude photo of my very nice breasts and he in turn sent photos as well. This is escalated as you can all imagine, but my question is, what is the next step? Do we travel across the country to have random, passionate internet stranger sex

during a pandemic? Or do we keep adding to each other's bank bank? Please help. This is a perfect time to just like fire off all the nudes that you've thought like maybe this one didn't make the cut. Like empty the chambers, what I say. You really want to get to know somebody before you buy a plane ticket.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, wait, cross country. Yes. You know, there's penises in your neighborhood. I've been on Newport enough to see that there are horny singles all over my street. Cyber, all the way cyber. Do the full cyber and then decide.

My husband of two days only wants to play golf on our honeymoon. What can I get him, what can I do to get him to put out, divorce him, threaten to divorce him? So he's treating the honeymoon like he treats his bachelor party. He invite his bros with him? I think this is actually a good thing.

You should be like, go ahead and play golf, just make the rule, he's gotta be done by noon and then just get yourself a fucking massage every single day. Like that's what you do. Cause guess what? He's gonna go play golf by himself. He's a nerd.

Let him do that. Just be like, you gotta be back by noon. And then it's like, hey, this is great. Our relationship is off to a great start and you'll wait till you go home to divorce. Yeah. He's not gonna stop playing golf. The trick to a good relationship is to just spend

as little time together as possible. So when you see each other, you have all sorts of stories that you can tell about how your day was. How also did you marry a golf guy and not realize it? Like golf guys exist and all they do is golf. I hope you're prepared that every vacation you go on is going to be loosely tied around what golf courses are nearby.

Hey, honey, can I bring my clubs? Yeah, he's gonna like suggest, hey, why don't we go out to, let's go to Scottsdale for a week. Yeah. Oh yes, that sounds nice. Good weather, dry, nice restaurants and clubs. No, he's just gonna be out at the waste management. There is no something to be said.

I feel like golf guys that travel specifically for golf won't cheat on you. The business golf guys will. I'm just going to play a few rounds. Like I play a few rounds here and there. That guy will cheat on you. I want to go to Scotland and all I want to do is play golf at one golf course.

That's his form of cheating on you. That's it, right. It's just like I'm going, this is my way to escape. The worst he's gonna do is he's gonna get a little frisky with the old guy behind the counter when he's buying balls. Yeah, or the cart girl. Yeah, not even, not even. Because if he's that obsessed with golf,

he's not gonna drink while he golfs. Just keep your eye on the fact that a heavy golf guy in his early to mid 20s is on a direct path to become an exotic trophy hunter by the time he's in his mid 40s. What you have to find out is how many golf books does he own? If you have at least three golf books

that's just pictures of golf on your coffee table, that guy won't cheat. Sup guys, are boys really worried about the size of their dick? Why? Not worried, just I've accepted. I've come to terms with my penis at this point. I'm not gonna do anything to impress it.

It's not gonna do anything to impress me. There was a time when I was worried because I was like, that's it? Are we done? We're done growing? That sucked. But after that, you just kinda move on. Hi guys, I love the show and I need some help.

I've been dating this guy for over a year and I can't help but feel like I am too young to be in a serious relationship. I'm 24. But I literally can't get myself to break up with him. I could see me and him being together down the road, but right now I wanna be single and be a hoe while I'm still young and hot.

Is it worth possibly losing him to break up? Or should I live my life? Or should I live my life a hope he's still around in a few years? And if so, what's the best way to break up? I would actually propose to him and then get him to be the one to say no thanks. And then you can always go back to that.

Well, then at that point, you actually have a built-in excuse to go have some wild years. You're like, oh, I just got my heart broken by this guy. I need some time to figure me out. He's gonna think that you're doing a Julia Roberts going over to India and riding elephants for six weeks when in reality, you're just going down to the tenderloin and getting dicked down like nobody's business.

Yes, by the way, you answered your own question. You wanna be a hoe. You said that. Be a hoe. Do your thing. Do your thing, girl. Hey, big cat NFL kicker PF. Nope, XFL kicker.

X NFL kicker. I'm gonna claim that because I was offered a tryout. I'm now an X NFL kicker. Got it. Grumpy Hank and Berserker Billy. So my boyfriend loves free-balling. I get it that he wants airflow, especially since it's summer,

but he free-balls all the time, at home and public at work. It became too much for me when we were at a friend's barbecue and he was sitting crisscross applesauce and one of my friends saw his nuts. Ugg. How can I convince him to start wearing briefs? Yeah, it's a tough look.

Don't make the jump from nothing to briefs. That's number one. And I've been at a family reunion before where the weird uncle is wearing super short khakis and his balls are just hanging out. That, well, on one hand, that is goals. On the other hand, you can't get to that point when you're still in your 20s or 30s.

Dude, I'm kind of down with this guy. He's free-balling and sitting in Indian style. Like, what the fuck? You can do one or the other. You can't do both. All right, last one. Stop PMT guys. My boyfriend always calls me brother.

What do y'all think that means? Hopefully, yeah, brother. Sometimes I'll be asking him a question instead of him saying straight up no, he will say no, brother. Yeah, he's just a whole Kogan thing. So it's good to know that Blackjack did get laid. No, yeah, I mean, whole Kogan made it popular.

So, and he's iconic. What more do you want? That's actually the highest. All right, what if she says, also might be a Game of Thrones fan and incest is back. Yeah. That's true. What are you gonna say, Hank?

I was gonna say, what if she's like us? You're a wrestling fan? He said no. Then what? Well, you can be not a wrestling fan, but still a Hulkamaniac. He had a reality show. Oh, yeah, true.

Maybe a big fan of Bubba the Love Sponge. I don't know. Big, true. And your daughter. All right, that's our show. Billy, you got something planned? A little bit. Wait, love you guys.

Love you too. Download the Playbarcel app. I was telling them, not you. Download the Playbarcel app. Download the Playbarcel app. Download the Playbarcel app. Hank will get a cat. Love you guys.

Billy, what are your closing thoughts for the day? Well, there's a lot of things on my mind today as I was driving to work. Billy hasn't prepared anything. There was a tree that fell on the road. You know right when he hasn't prepared anything. Well, he also burned two hot seat cool thrones that he didn't have.

Well, this is Billy's. I've been thinking about not playing sports. I don't know. Yeah, Billy, do more SpongeBob impressions. Bad. Wait, wait, wait. Talking away. And why don't I go up to sea?

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Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. I can't do no more

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