Pardon My Take - JJ Redick + Mount Rushmore Of Animals You Want On Your Team In A Fight

Episode Date: August 22, 2018

Daniel Murphy is a Cub which is also the name of the GOAT and he also killed the Cubs forever (2:27 - 6:55). Hot Seat/Cool Throne and a breakdown of the VMA's from a guy who understands it and 2 guys that are washed (6:55 - 23:35). Mt Rushmore of animals that we want on our team in a fight to the death (23:35 - 36:02). JJ Redick joins the show to talk about his NBA career, what happened to the Clippers, being teammates with Dwight Howard, how much the hate in College messed with him, and Coach K faking injuries all the time (36:02 - 92:03). Segments include Jon Gruden's time machine, embrace debate is Baker Mayfield too swaggy, and guys on chicks. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have JJ Redick for a nice long interview. We talk Coach K. We talk the dysfunction in the Clippers. We talk Dwight Howard. We didn't talk about him busting up a kidnapping, a Liam Neeson movie, because he didn't want to tell us about that. But the interview was fantastic. I guess there's something with like, you know, when you're getting investigated with the FBI, you can't talk about it openly, whatever. That's not, that's not the point. The point is the interview is fantastic. We also have the Mount Rushmore of animals we'd want on our team in a fight. And we have guys on

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die. Well, the issue is he used to do steroids. Yeah. So now he's not that good. So now you're getting him when he's clean and moral and just. Yes. And he's ready. Here's one thing that people forget. The goat's name was Murphy too. Oh, kind of a little historical tie in you. You guy, you I didn't see that one coming and you got me again. Yeah. 108 stitches on the baseball too. Same number of years. So Daniel Murphy gets picked up by the Cubs. That's the biggest news. We have week three NFL coming up preseason. Josh Allen is named a starter, but the Daniel Murphy news, like I said, he was a Cubs killer, which I think this happens a lot in sports where if a guy just kills a team, the general manager or the coaches, whoever's like, look at him and basically say,

that guy's really good because he hit well against us. We need him on our team. It's kind of like 2008 Jim Edmonds, who I also hated. Like, okay, fine. The guy killed us. Let's bring him on board and see if he can do something. Exactly. Because if you're the general manager that put together that team, you're like, holy shit, he beat my players, which are the best players in the world because I hand selected them. So he must be really, really good. It's actually like Operation Paperclip back in World War Two. When we got all the Nazi scientists come over and build our rockets, take us to the moon. Is that a fun fact? Yeah. We took our best scientists. We're like, oh, shit. They're kicking our ass when it comes to jet propulsion. They're really smart. Might as well

have them join our team. Is that a true story? Yeah. So basically the Cubs are Nazis. Okay. All right. Well, I didn't fully follow you along there, but I know Daniel Murphy has some problematic history. So some people obviously not happy with the signing and they're going to donate for every time Daniel Murphy hits a home run. They're going to donate to a charity, which then makes you think like, are they rooting for Daniel Murphy? Are they rooting for someone that is problematic, or are they rooting to basically starve charities dry and never let the charities get money? It's kind of a pickle. They are. They're rooting. In an ideal world, they would want to give a lot of money to the charity, right? Right. So, but then you're rooting for the guy with a problematic

past. Right. But that, and that's bad. Right. So I, you, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I think we're stuck. Honestly, I think the worst thing for them would be just if Daniel Murphy sucked. Yes. When he joined the Cubs, because then you, you're not giving any money. You should, you should set a bare minimum for amount of money that you're going to donate to charity, no matter what. Yes. So Daniel Murphy on the Cubs, never done steroids. The other big news, let's just say officially, I think it's not the Nats year. I think the window, we're talking championship window. It's probably closed on the Nats for this group. It was the Bodie homerun. It was the Bodie grand slam. That was the end of the Nats season. I saw

that stat. I read that to you out loud. The Nats at that moment, so that was like about 10 days ago, there were four and a half games out of first place when Bodie hits the grand slam at Wrigley. And in a matter of 72 hours, there were nine games out of first place. And that was it. Yeah. It's an issue now. So, so yeah, the Nats are dead. They're done. Put a stake in them. Probably should have traded Bryce Harper, hindsight's 2020. That was only, well, that seems like forever ago was what, like at least 10 days ago, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing you can do. So he'll be in pinstripes next year, whichever pinstripes we don't know, could be Philly's pinstripes. Oh, fun fact, there are 108

pinstripes on the Cubs uniforms too. Same, just like the stitches of the ball. Interesting. Hey, I know you did, but I, but it's, you say with enough confidence. It is interesting. Yes. Yeah. I said it. Yes. Exactly. The fact that you put that out there is an interesting fact. Whether it's right or wrong, that part is interesting. Because we are still, you know, we're slogging through the dog days of summer. We have JJ Reddick coming up. We have Mount Rushmore coming up, but we got to do our hot seat, cool throne. And I think Hank's hot seat might queue us up to a little thing that happened on MTV on Monday night. Hank, why don't you start with our hot seat, cool throne? Yes. My hot seat is Nicki Minaj queen,

PFT's queen. Yes. Her album queen just came out. Of course. It debuted at number two, Travis Scott, whose album came out like three weeks ago, stayed at number one. And she was very, very, very upset about it. Basically started airing every single person out underneath her, Travis Scott, saying he was doing like fake marketing and saying that because he was selling like t-shirt bundles with his album. That those purchases shouldn't have counted towards his album sales. Oh. And Travis Scott, allegedly, according to Nicki used Kylie Jenner to put out like an Instagram saying like, I mean, Stormi can't wait to meet you guys at these meet and greets and her fans were buying the album. So she was basically called out Travis Scott,

Kylie, Stormi. She was fighting with a baby. Good. Good. Yeah. She's just very rattled and it's clear that and Cardi B's album did better than hers. Cardi B was like better at the VMAs. It's just clear that Nicki Minaj has taken a backseat and she's not, she's not happy with it. That's what this all is. It's just Nicki Minaj being upset at Cardi B because Cardi B is like, she's like Nicki Minaj boiled down to her more like primitive essence. Like Cardi B's out here on Twitter talking about how she can't come anymore because every time she comes, she almost dies, which by the way, not a great look for offset if, if your girl is on Twitter being like, yeah, I just don't come anymore for whatever. I think it's because I almost die every time,

but I just don't come anymore. Lurgic. Yeah. Back to the original point Hank made about the t-shirt sales. I think a lot of people frequently buy t-shirts for bands that they don't listen to. So I think that's probably, that you just want to be cool wearing a Travis Scott t-shirt. Like you see a lot of people these days wearing Iron Maiden shirts or ACDC shirts and you're like, hey, name two of their albums. People wear Levi's shirts that don't wear Levi's. People wear, yeah, exactly. She also don't wear jeans. She also does the same exact thing, just not as well. Yeah. Oh, she did. Yeah. So she's just jealous. Yeah. Okay. So I actually watched, I tried to watch the VMAs and this is very, very sad to say, but we joke about being

washed PFT. This was the first time I really felt it in my core because I really didn't, like there was like a guy named Dizza or Brisa Braza, something like that. He came up on the, on the stage, no idea who he was. Is that who it is? That's a girl. Oh no. Yeah, it's a female. Yep. It was some dude, some white dude came up and sang and he was atrocious and that was like in the first 20 minutes when I think you're supposed to have the acts that you know. Yeah. I stuck around for JLo because she's my queen and I don't know if you guys saw, but A-Rod Corp was looking awesome. But then it went to, so it was basically a bunch of people I didn't know and then like a ton of Madonna is crazy, which she is. She's the crazy aunt now, like who comes

out and is like, Hey guys, I got this new cult. You should really try it. But I still remember when Madonna was like hot and, and a thing when we were growing up, the whole thing just depressed me. The Backstreet Boys are like 60 years old. They look like they should be in Fidelity commercials. The whole thing was just really sad to me and I, I, I just, I think we're done. I think we're done. I think we're officially done. Not the corp though. The corp is thriving. The corp is thriving. Oh, the corp is financially sound. Listen, JLo probably, I'm sure that they put, they, she got a lifetime achievement award. They put probably a time limit on her speech because I think if she went maybe 30, 45 more seconds, she would have been thanking me and the corp for all of our hard work. That

would have been very embarrassing for you. It's like, Hey, I, you know, credit to you. You don't have to thank me. So that's probably good for everybody. Madonna looked like she, her next album should be called like I am a cat lady now. Yes. She looks like a crazy cat person. She's got the braids. She looks like Kid Rock on meth. She, she's rock on more meth. Yes. She's the woman who got sued for selling the, what was she selling? She was selling like, what was it? It wasn't kale. It was, she was selling that juice, that purple juice online that like, and told everyone that it fixed cancer. No, no, no, it wasn't lean. It was, I'm, my brain is blanking right now. It's lean. It's, it's, what's the other types of broccoli? There's like broccoli

and then there's broccoli, Rob, cauliflower. Oh, jelly juice. Yeah. Jelly juice. Cabbage. Fermented cabbage. That was close. Madonna's like that, uh, jelly juice woman who basically got sued because she sold a bunch of fermented cabbage and everyone got diarrhea and she said, you'd like shit out cancer and it cure cancer. That's what she feels like now. She's like, Hey, I'm going to come out here. I'm going to tell you guys how you live this like beautiful life and find a higher power. But really I'm just, uh, I went, I lived through the eighties and did way too many drugs. So my brain scrambled now. That's actually like a good career path for Madonna. She reinvents herself all the time. She should just reinvent herself as somebody who's just a fraud. Yes. Oh, here's

what she does. Team up with Dr. Dre, start making beats by Dre, but it's B E E T S and it's just B juice. I like that. And rake in the money. Then Apple buys you for a billion dollars later on. I like that a lot. Hank, isn't what you just said, like fermented cabbage? Isn't that just kimchi? Yeah, pretty much. But it's like, it's a little grosser what she made and she called it jelly. I mean, here's the problem. It's, you could sell any like fake product to anyone. If you have a good name, jelly juice just sounds for real. You know what I mean? Car stick hypothetically. Right. Right. Exactly. Hank's car stick rolls off the tongue. My cool throw in my first one was the corp, which they're thriving. Yep. My second one was post Malone. So he's alive. He captured the

nation's attention today. Everyone was waiting as baited breath after they found out that his plane popped two tires and they had to make an emergency landing. So he landed safely. Are we staying woke on that guys? What do you mean? Well, a lot of people were saying like those tires look fine to me when the plane landed. Don't get me wrong. I'm glad post Malone, as somebody who, I probably get compared unfavorably to post Malone more often than any other celebrity out there just because I got the long hair. You're like post Malone's cleaner brother. Yeah. Like, I'm the guy that bails post Malone out of jail. And I, so I wanted him to be fine, but those tires, they didn't look bad to me. That's all I'm going to say. But either way, cool thrown, cool thrown because now he got

all the attention regardless of whether he was in danger or not. If I'm post Malone, I would have instructed the pilot to land that plane at a recording studio so I could just run inside, pump out, you know, like six songs worth of shit and release it tomorrow knowing I got all this buzz going. Yes. And shout out to Brett Michaels. PFT. I saw you retweeted that tweet. I treated, retreated as well. He was like, my heart, my heart goes out to post Malone. I too am on a private plane right now. Could have been me essentially. And then the best part about though was his social media team took the time to put a Brett Michaels watermark on it too before you before you did it out. Just in case anyone's going to steal it. You know that that's Brett Michaels for more of

these fire tweets. Follow me at Brett Michaels. All right, PFT. What do you got for your hot seat cool thrown? So my hot seat is every single news network out there besides the athletic because the athletic hired like 400 people in the last two days to write about football and just any other sport really they've hired every if you've ever written a word about sports online, you actually now work for the athletic until you hear otherwise from them. It's gotten to the point where I'm just waiting for the day I wake up and they're like, the athletic has hired me. I'm like, wait, I didn't agree to this, but they just are taking everyone. We should just do a psych. Just I have some personal news. Part of my take has agreed to join the athletic and then

five minutes later after the world burns down. Not well, the athletic actually is onto something here because if you can't make news or be like super entertaining or captivating, just continuously hire people so that you can say every day we got big news tomorrow. Yeah, good point. Also, it's a it really puts us in our place as people who don't work for the athletic. People just think that we're unathletic because we don't work at a cool company that says we're athletic. Yes, and we're now probably we're in the minority. We're a minority class in journalism because we don't work for the athletic. My other hot seat is Facebook because Joe Flacco just started his own platform, his own online platform. So Joe Flacco is the new smooth smack social networking

site for fans of Joe Flacco can now get their Joe Flacco news directly from Joe Flacco. Are you an admin instead of waiting to hear it from me? So it totally cuts me out like this is essentially they took my brain and turned it into a social network and now it's just run completely by Joe Flacco. Okay, wait, so what what exactly I love when when guys do this because this is this is when you know that like the world's going to be okay. The fact that we still make athletes that think these ideas are good ideas like like Brett Favre and Sporkle should have told us or Sporks or whatever the hell it was score score. Yeah, with a cue. Sorry, sorry, should have told us how stupid these things are. But yet here we are and Joe Flacco is like hey what's the key to really engaging

with my audience? How about a platform where I can talk to people in 160 characters or less? It sounds to me like you're talking shit about Russell Wilson and Ciara's platform where you can tune in to watch them like put videos up with them around their house. Yes. And I want you to stop because that's one of my favorite websites to go to. Okay, but I'm very excited for what Joe Flacco, I don't know what they're going to call it, Flakbook, Face Flak, Face Joe. I don't know, it's going to be something cool like that. What about not your average Joe? Oh, that's pretty good too. Yeah, just kind of play on everything. Morning, Cup of Joe. Yeah, that's good too. You can only send messages to running backs who are very close by to you. PFT, I know that we like one of the

things that we always disagree on and like tension in our relationship is I obviously think Joe Flacco is a terrible quarterback and you genuinely like him. But with that said, I think he still has number one most fuckable spiral in the NFL. Yeah, dude, when he uncorks that thing, well, yes, Pat Mahomes is giving it a run for its money this year. Oh, I have a real tight spiral. I haven't laid my eyes on it, but he threw a spiral on Monday Night Football and it was like, yep, Joe Flacco, Brady Quinn in college, Joe Flacco in the NFL. By the way, did I ever tell you guys I met Brady Quinn and he was like, yeah, the reason why the college spiral looks so much better is because they have that extra pain on it. Yeah, the stripes. Yeah, the stripes. And he's like, and I told him

to his face, I was like, yo, I would like to fuck your spiral. He's like, hey, that's not the first time I heard that. Yeah. I mean, to Marcus Russell's college spiral was awesome too. Yes. Yes. That was a really good one. No, I think, you know, Joe Flacco's got a great spiral. I don't know how you saw it since you were watching the VMAs. I was watching both. No, that's really interesting to me. Yeah, actually, actually the VMAs started at 9pm because I'm a football guy and it's kind of my job to watch Monday Night Football when Robert Griffin and Joe Flacco and Andrew Luck, by the way, Andrew Luck's back this week. He threw, he threw several passes over five yards, many of which did not get intercepted. Slash, I know you were what you were practicing with your, your band.

By ticket September 20th, House of Blues, Boston. My cool throne. I only have one cool throne. This is also a Hank's Tot in the streets, but it's for me. It's called jelking. Have you heard of jelking? Yeah. Well, no, I have. I have because you've told me about it. Sounds like you've heard of it. Yes. Interesting. Jelking is this is all over the bodybuilding.com forums. You can make your dick bigger. And so everyone's talking about it. It's just basically jerking off, but you don't come as far. So I'm sure we have some joking experts out there in our audience, maybe just one or two that can explain it more succinctly. But it's like exercises that you do with your dick. And it's supposed to make it bigger, I guess. And the only problem is it can make it very, very,

very, very deformed and make it just bend to the side. So kind of a dance with the devil that you do if you're trying to joke it out. The best part about jelking is it's spelled J-E-L-Q. So it's like, is there a U that comes after the Q? I don't know. It sounds like an app. It sounds like a Tinder joke. Well, this is the problem with the internet because the internet is essentially just an entire locker room. When you played sports as a kid and you got in the locker room and the older kids are like, hey, you ever try this? But it's just on steroids and the internet. So it's like, hey, you ever try just jerking off and never coming? Your dick will get so big. Maybe a little deformed, but also really big. And the cool thing is the next time you actually do fuck a chick,

which like you will because your dick will be big, it will be awesome. Yeah, you just have to do it where they're like, they're laying down to the side of you, like those super soakers that had the nozzles and you could point in different directions. You just have to like thrust forward and it goes into the side. By the way, spin zone for anyone who's jelking out there, shout out Evan Stone. If that guy can do it with the curved dick, you can do it too with your jelt dick. So he's a legend of the game. I recommend doing a very, if you're going to look into jelking, be very careful where you do it. Like what type of computer you're using. Yes. All right. I got, I got a one hot seat, one cool throne. I'm a power through on my hot seat is

Pax and Lynch. I think I'm just going to put them on my hot seat until he's out of the NFL because I hate him for that bowl game where he threw like 107 yards on 37 passes, but he got booed in Denver for just going on the field. So they're at that point, not even like throwing a bad pass. He just walked on the field and they're like, fuck this guy. Why'd we waste a first round pick on him? So Pax and Lynch, your days are numbered bucko. They're even past that point. They're to the point where they're starting go fund me's to pay the Broncos to help offset the salary cap hit that they would take if they cut them. Yes. Like, Hey, Mr. Elway, if, if, you know, the two million dollars in cap space,

that's not being taken out of your pocket, but out of, out of the Broncos organization's pocket, if that's what is stopping you from cutting them, we'll cover it for you. All right. And my cool throne is Kobe Bryant. So it's actually a duel. It's a hot seat, Michael Jordan and LeBron James, cool throne, Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant is agreed to play in the big three next year. So that's another ring for Kobe. He's going to go, he's going ring chasing at the big three. You don't think Kobe's going to add that to his little mantle and be like mamba mentality. I won like a three Pete in the big three against, against Carlos Boozer and Nate Robinson. Also fewer teammates to alienate. Yeah. So that's a big bonus for him.

Yes. Another hot seat coming from that is Darren Revelle, because Darren says if Kobe actually does it, Darren is logging off Twitter for a full week. So Darren's a hater. He doesn't think that Kobe's going to follow through on his promises. Darren obviously doesn't have the mamba mentality. So I mean, I hope it doesn't come to that. I really hope it to God forbid, God forbid that we lose Darren Revelle. He's going to find a loophole somehow that fucking, you know what he'll do is he came, Kobe's such a nerd that Kobe likes Revelle and, and Revelle will probably tweet from Kobe's account for a week or something. It's going to work out in Revelle's favor. Yeah. Okay. Well, I heard Ice Cube said that it was true and I trust him more

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Let's set the rules here. I think we should do it as like animals and you have the ability to speak to the animals and give them directions. Do you know what I mean? Wait, so now you can control the animals with... Yeah, I think that's what you should do. But we can't do... That's basically fictional animals. No, it's animals, but you have the ability to tell them like, hey, go attack them. I think it's more like the animals are they are operating under the understanding that they're on your side. Okay, all right, so it's just an it's like an inherent just they they just know that they're they're trying to defend you. Yes. Okay, that's fair. Okay, because I was going to say like it's it's weird to like pick an animal and then the animal just

probably just walks off. Right. Or attacks you. Yeah, right. 90% of animals that would be the case. Okay, so I would just pick my dog. Yeah, just have a buddy. At least your dog would stay by your side. Yeah. Okay, so so it's animals. So it's a Mount Rushmore of animals to be in like a fight with and they're defending you and on your side. You good with that, Hank? Let's go. Okay, so Hank, why don't you start? Wait, who goes second? Why don't we go because on Sunday, what was the order we did? It went big cat, Hank, me. So let's just hop it one more. So Hank, you, me. Okay. All right, my number one, I'll go with the African buffalo. Who you guys ever seen these things? Nope. Like Planet Earth. They're diesel, they're like basically like rhino buffaloes, they kill lions,

they just fuck everything up in Africa. By themselves? Yeah. Just one on one. Yeah. The African buffalo beats a rhino one on one. African buffalo fucks up like multiple lions. Lions, he said. Okay. Okay, so for my first pick, I'm taking a rhino, which is a better version of the African buffalo. It's got thick, it's got thicker skin, which is basically armor. It's got the horn. You can train them like in Black Panther and they wear cool battle outfits. Okay. So I'm going rhino number one. Okay, I'm going for mine. I'm going to go big and small so we can attack in different ways. I'll go with grizzly bear and a king cobra. So we're going to get them at different angles. You know, one goes low, one goes high. Grizzly bear is a really good

one. Yeah, grizzly bears are badass. Did you know that the Polish army had a grizzly bear on its side in World War II? I didn't, but I would assume, I like assumed that. Yes. Its name was Wojtek. Yes. And his job was to carry artillery shells around. There's a statue of him. Makes perfect sense. I want to do a store on Wojtek. Yeah. Okay. My second one, because I did have grizzly bear, so I got to do an audible. I'm going to go with Mike the Tiger. Oh, okay. Because he's just a really cool tiger and he's an awesome looking. Just kind of hangs out. He's still, he's Mike the Tiger. You don't fuck with Mike the Tiger. Okay. I will go, I have two now, right? You have two. You have two now. I'll go with an eagle. Okay. Secure, you know, he can just be flying over

all times, dive in attack, dive in attack. Like a drone. Yeah. And he can like, you know, spot things out. He can be your, be your scout. He can do a lot of things. It's good. And I will go with a, just an elephant. Big, if you have a big elephant that's just trying to fuck shit up for you, you'll, you'll be in good spot. Okay. Because are we, this is, and we're in this theoretical fight we're talking about, it's animals versus other animals. So there's no guns because like, if the people that are fighting have guns, all these animals would be dead. But if it's like, right, animals versus animals, I think an elephant would fuck up all these other animals. Except for the rhino. Yeah. Well, I think it's just, you're in a fight. I don't know. Yeah. I guess,

I guess we should probably clarify, is it against other animals? I think, how about it's no, it's all, it's at the end of this, the winner of this Mount Rushmore is whichever pack of animals would win ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Got it. All right. For my number three, I'm going to go with just big fucking swarm of hornets. Because you also have multiple animals. That is multiple animals, but it's a swarm for now. You have to pick one hornet. Okay. I'll take one hornet colony. So you have, so PFT took one hornet there. I'll horn it. We'll see. Don't those die after one sting? No. Hold on. That's false. Hanks. Hanks multiple times. Hanks ready? There you go. I just killed PFT's hornet. You've never killed a hornet,

you're like, they're too nimble. Okay. My third and fourth, I'm going similar to Hanks bird, but I'm going, I can't believe you didn't take the fastest bird, the Pellow Green, Pellow Green Falcon. Oh, of course. How could I forget? Dude, everyone knows it's the fastest bird. They can reach up to like 170 miles an hour. So I'm, I got the best air reconnaissance out there. And then my last one, what did you pick? You picked a tiger? I picked a tiger. I picked, well, Mike, the tiger specifically, I picked a tiger, a rhino and a hornet hornets. A hornet. Multiple hornets. A hornet. All right. I will go with a mountain line as my last pick. Cougar. Yeah. Give me one of those. Give me one of those. My African buffalo is going to

fuck that up. Okay. No one heard of a buffalo doing anything. African buffalo. Except losing Super Bowls. My last choice is, oh yeah. Sorry. Yeah. There you go. My last choice is a Silverback Gorilla. Okay. That's a good pick. And not just any silver hornet pick. Yeah. RIP Harama. Our sweet prince. Yeah. Can I pick one of the gorillas from Congo that was in charge of like controlling the diamond mines? No. Okay. So just, just a Silverback Gorilla. Because otherwise we would have picked all fictional animals. My last pick, I will go to complete my foursome, the Black Mamba. Kobe. So you're picking a human. A snake. Oh, okay. An actual snake. Yeah. Got it. Okay. You could have also, I guess, taken like an actual human.

I was going to take a, I was going to take a Texan with a gun, with like a AR-15, but I thought it would be kind of, kind of cheap. That is cheap. Yeah. Or just Brock Lesnar. I had it written down. Humans. Yeah. Brock Lesnar or John Bones Jones. Yeah. Right. All right. What else did we miss? Anything? I mean, if we're, if we were going to allow swarms of things. No. I think, I think mosquitoes would be a good choice. Just to annoy the fuck out of everybody. How about a billion rats? Yeah. Exactly. I think we all probably considered taking a shark, but then that's probably pretty impractical. Yeah. I had a gator on there too. Yeah. I'll get her a crocodile. But I feel like they're so slow. Like you could, you could reasonably kind of

run circles around it and just pick it out. Yes. I'd agree. A wolf is definitely a wolf. I feel like, you know, a ferocious dog like that would be, would be a pretty good pick. Did anyone take a hippo? Oh no, hippos would be good too. Hippos are pretty bad ass. They fuck shit up. They do. They fuck shit up and they can swim too. So you get that little element there. They're fast. Yeah. Hippos actually chase you down. I think hippos kill the most human beings a year. Yeah. Sure. That sounds right. Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. Hippos. They kill like a few hundred, probably. It's like hippos number one. Guns. Guns number two. Raccoons number three. Drowning number four. Drowning number four. Texting and driving number five. And a single hornet's bite

number six. Yep. Well, the hornets don't bite. They sting and they can sting multiple times. So really, when you get a hornet, you have unlimited ammo. It's like typing in IDKFA in doom. You imagine a hornet trying to go after a grizzly bear. One hornet. Yeah. What were your four PFA? They were the best four. I had a rhino, a tiger, hornets. A hornet. And a gorilla. I think that's a pretty solid cast actually. The hornet really kills you. Really, really hurts. I think our listeners are smart enough and intelligent enough to understand that a hornet can really do some damage. Bubba, make sure. Bubba, can you make sure that you write a hornet on it? Yes. Okay. So that's our Mount Rushmore vote for it. Hank picked an animal that doesn't even exist,

number one overall. Yeah, that's true. He just made that up. Yeah. You got Hank got too high and watched Planet Earth and was like, oh, this buffalo. A fire snake. It's a snake. That's wrong. I don't want to do rice lips. Fucking love Planet Earth. An African buffalo. Yeah. Give me a break. It's just a fat horse. Type African buffalo on YouTube. Okay. I'm going to type African buffalo. I'm going to give you real quick. I'm not going to do YouTube. I'll do image search. My first thoughts. African buffalo. Dude, that thing is slow as fuck. It's got, no, no. There's a bird sitting on top of it. There's a bird sitting on top of it. Exactly. So I'm an ally. It's a little pussy. No. No. You get the birds. It's got horns, sure. Yeah, it's got horns,

but look, it's a huge target. Yeah. It's got so much meat on the outside. Dude, that thing would get ripped to shreds. By what? By which one of your animals? Grizzly bear. A rhino. Yeah. Rhino would fuck up. Grizzly bears have horns? I'll say this about the... Wait. Grizzly bears have horns? Panther or a mountain lion? I'll say this about the African buffalo. Mountain lions also don't have horns. They have cool dicks. And huge balls. Their dick is like, it's got like fuzz on it. Yeah. Say something nice about everyone else's Mount Rushmore. African buffaloes have cool dicks. Yeah. Kick the animal with a stick. Good job. Good job. By far. You got it. What was yours? I had the king cobra, the grizzly bear, the falcon, and the mountain lion. I just want to say that

Big Cat's choice of the king cobra is kind of flying under the radar. We haven't really roasted him for it. It's a pretty bad pick. Why? Because they're like pretty slow. You can see him coming from the mile away. Shitload of fucking venom. That's a snake novice. So really the only way that a king cobra would do any damage is if you walk directly over it. No. My grizzly bear's just locking up with everyone and then the king cobra comes and bites your ankles and you're dead. The fucking African buffalo cannot... I'm actually looking up right now. I just googled it. One half of a king cobra bite would kill an adult male African buffalo. And one hornet sting could also kill one if the buffalo was allergic. The buffalo would go into anaphylactic shock if it

didn't have an epi pen. You didn't let me finish. I have a grizzly bear with an epi pen. Well, that doesn't exist. Yeah, it does in this scenario. I don't think an epi pen could even penetrate a grizzly bear's skin. I should have just picked an epi pen right after your hornet pick. Okay, vote for our Mount Rushmore. Tell us what we missed at part of my take. Maybe we could do... Dude, Hank, literally, half these pictures of buffalo just have birds on them. Just like on their eyes. Just a bird standing on their eye. Real quick, like knee-jerk reaction. Let's do the exact same Mount Rushmore for animals in the water. Go. Hank, go. Shark. Just a shark? You gotta be more a sand shark? A whale shark? Hank gets hammered. I take a great white. Okay, I'll take an orca.

What's another shark name? Bull sharks. I'll take a bull shark. Okay, I'm gonna go with bottlenose dolphin. They're very intelligent. And they fuck. Yeah, they do. But then they fall in love, so you gotta be careful. If you fuck it once, you gotta fuck it for the rest of your life. I'll go jellyfish. Okay, good choice. Yeah. What was the thing that killed Steve Irwin? Stingray. Stingray. Okay, Krokey. Irokanji, the small jellyfish that's like the size of your thumbnail, but can kill somebody. I think that'd be more powerful than just like a big jellyfish. Irokanji. Okay, Irokanji. I'll go with a barracuda. And I will go with... Anacondas are in the water, right? Yeah, I'll do an anaconda. The one from the movie. Anaconda, the one that couldn't bite J.Lo's butt,

even though he was trying the whole time. Okay, my last one, I will go with blue whale. Just like run you over. Yeah, that's true. Do you know that a small child could walk through a blue whale's artery? Fun fact. I did know that. Yeah. Yeah. Last one, Hank. I have two more. Two more, Hank. You said anaconda? I'll go alligator. Wait, no, this is the last one. Okay, alligator. Yeah, right? One, two... No, Hank is... No, he started, and you went, then I went twice, then you went, then Hank went twice, then you went, then I went twice, and you went, then Hank went once. Okay. All right, vote for our Mount Rushmore and our second Mount Rushmore at part of my take. Love you guys. Okay, before we get to JJ Redick, we have our friends from Lisa. Lisa is the best mattress

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like the right way. I'm just kind of like throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks. Who's a better podcaster? You or Richard Jefferson? Me, for sure. We've had Richard on, so people can judge that. I podcaster, not guest. Guest on a podcast. All right, so give us the elevator pitch so people can go download your podcast right now. It's you interviewing who? It's the JJ Redick podcast on the Ringer Network. We'll bleep that out. Yeah, we'll take that out. Bill Simmons, great guy. No, you can take all that out. So my podcast basically, yeah, I interview and talk with people from all walks of life. We have basketball centric podcast. I had Kyrie Irving on and we discussed how he has such a masterful handle

and ball handling skills, but we also discussed things like did dinosaurs really exist? And he talked a lot about the third eye, which I'm still trying to figure out more information about that. The third eye? Like your dick? Like your pee hole? No, no, no. It's like that thing. Yeah, it's like Illuminati shit. I didn't quite follow along. Yeah, yeah, I got it. You talked about the flatness of the earth? Yeah, we did talk about that. You dug in on that? Yeah, we talked about a bunch of conspiracy theories. And then I also have people on Seth Meyers, Jason Sudakis. I've had a couple of chefs on. So yeah, just people from all walks of life. People I'm interested in. Who's a better boss? Bill Simmons or Donald Sterling? Bill. That's an easy one. All right, I'm going to do

this. Where do you want to start with this podcast? I'm going to let you, because you're a podcaster, what part of your career would you like us to start with that you can do either when everyone hated your guts at Duke, the magic and Dwight Howard, the clippers that were so terrible to watch and it's like you guys will never win a series stop doing this, or we could do the Sixers now or you know, hobbies outside of it. So you tell me and we'll go, we'll fall your lead. Let's get the shitty part out of the way first. Okay, so let's talk about the clippers. Okay, let's talk about the clippers. Yes, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. So all right, that clipper team was the most annoying team pretty much of all time to watch because every

year is like the clippers, the clippers. This is the year. What was it like playing with those, because I feel like everyone hates each other now. Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, who's a friend of ours, don't say anything bad about him. Austin Rivers, do you guys like, where did that kind of, what was the moments like kind of all fell apart when you felt like it was going to build something? Oh, man. I don't think there was one moment. Doc used to always talk about how when one group was kind of together for a long period of time, instead of getting closer together, you end up pointing fingers at each other. It was weird because separately, everybody was really cool with each other off the court, everybody sort of got along. And then there was just so much like

pettiness. It was just pettiness. It was, it's weird to think what we had the potential to accomplish and what ultimately derailed that was pettiness, like Donald Trump level pettiness. Right. So when you say pettiness, are you talking about like a guy we get upset because he wasn't getting as many looks, somebody wasn't passing the ball enough? Like what was the coach was playing his son about our team? I know Matt Barnes has gone on a few shows recently and talked about like mental toughness. And I do believe like that was part of it. But I think the biggest problem was passive aggressiveness. Like I would rather a guy actually blow up at a teammate. And you know, whether it ends in a fight or just a verbal shouting match, like I think getting stuff out in

the open is healthier than sort of holding it in and just whispering things in corners and never really addressing root issues. And I think it was just like, and you know, I'm throwing myself in this in some ways, like I'm probably as guilty as other guys, but like, we were just really passive aggressive with each other. And I don't know that it was like, look, I know certain guys now that we've sort of separated where no one's there anymore. We've all sort of yeah, we've all left dock as the last man standing. Yes. And and I don't know that like we hate each other. I don't know that. But you know, I think it was it wasn't that while we were playing together. It wasn't like, I hate this guy. It was it was just like passive aggressive bullshit. And so the like toughness

and the passive aggressiveness when you guys used to play the Warriors and it felt like those games like those games were battles because you'd get in the chippy stuff and everything. Did you feel the Warriors just knew like these guys don't have it? They don't have like, does that happen on the NBA court where one team's like, come on, they might have all these all stars. But when it comes down to the fourth quarter and toughness and trusting each other, they're just not there. Our first year together when I was there, which was Jamal's second year on the team and Chris Blake and DJ's third year together, Doc's first year, we beat the Warriors in the first round. It was a seven game series. You know, Draymond was playing, but he wasn't starting. I think Bogot

may have been injured that series. Jermaine O'Neill was playing. So it wasn't like they were at full strength, but we beat them. And then the following year was when they were amazing. They kind of came out of the gates. They were 65 and 17 or 67 and 15, whatever they were. And we only beat them once during the regular season. But I still felt like that year in particular, that was the year we lost the Rockets in seven games when we were up 3-1 and they came back and beat us. That year, I feel like we had a chance. If I'm being truthful after that, we did not have a chance. We didn't have the mental toughness. They were more together and it felt like every time we played them, it was inevitable that they would have one of those third quarter runs where Steph goes nuts.

And you know, it's not like we're doing something wrong. It was just like they had that mental edge over us. And I think they won like 11 straight games against us. I love hearing that because as fans, that means that when a team suffers a really bad collapse, we like to be like they're dead forever. We're absolutely right. So it feels good validating that. Our hot takes. The Houston series was essentially the death. We always say also that when a team beats another team, they gain their powers. It's like if a team beats a team of Destiny, then they become the team of Destiny. In your case, they beat you guys and then the Rockets took over your like mental weakness and now they can't get over that hump. So you infected the Rockets.

Yes. I had zero. I had never even thought about that. Of mental weakness in the Western Conference. I had never even thought about that. I would also say though, I was going to say that you know, after that Rockets series, I think that next year, when the Boyers were 73 and 9 or whatever they were, I think that next year, the whole league started playing differently. And Blake was hurt for, I'm not saying Blake's at fault here, but Blake was hurt. And we went on this like basically, you know, incredible stretch in January and February. I think we had a 12-game winning streak or something like that. But you know, over the course of a lengthy part of the season, we were as good as anybody in the league and we were basically playing with like West

Johnson and Paul Pierce at the four on the starting line. We were just spreading it out. We were playing like how the league plays. And I, you know, and then when we tried to integrate Blake back in, I just never felt like we figured that out. Like how to utilize his talents with DJ, with shooting, you know, having two playmakers essentially in Chris and Blake, and letting those guys play off each other. We just never figured that out. It was like we, the league changed, the league evolved, and our team, the way we played the sort of the five of us, you know, the starting, starting group, we never evolved. Do you think, because that's an interesting point that, that, uh, do you think that your skill set, because the league evolved almost to you,

do you think if the league doesn't evolve, you wouldn't have the, like as lengthy of a career as you have? I've thought about that. Yeah. I thought about that because you've become, you've become almost more valuable as the years have gone on, because everyone's saying you need three point shooters, you need to spread it out, let one guy drive and kick it out. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really grateful for math. Yes. For Daryl Morrie. For the nurse. People figuring out that three voices. For Daryl Morrie. For all the guys at nylon calculus. Yes. I don't even know if your listeners know what that is. No, like, uh, no, I, look, I, when I first came in the league, it was like, can this guy guard a guy one on one on the wing? And as we found out, that's a highly

inefficient use of a basketball possession. And you can't guard anyone one on one on the wing. That's debatable. But no, so I think, I think my skill set, uh, worked with the evolution of the game, but there's also something on the individual to sort of adapt along with that. And I certainly had to work on my weaknesses. Like I was having this conversation the other day, um, to compare myself at 34 to when I, who I was as a basketball player at 22, I like, look at my 22 year old self. I'm like, you kind of sucked. Yeah. You know, you weren't very good. And I just, like, I've gotten better. And then the league has changed. And it's also been great. What's, what's the biggest thing? Because you've always shot, I think, I think just like,

you know, to the naked eye, it's, it's not, uh, it's not visible, uh, that I'm a better athlete, but I am a better athlete even at my age than I was at 22. I was, I always thought that you were sneaky athletic and that's a term that gets thrown around a lot for white guys such as myself. Um, but, but I did think that when you, when you got into the league, I was like, can this guy, can he get up in the air in the paint? Can he make a layup in traffic? And you always had good, good body control. But so like as your game kind of evolved through the years, like at what age would you say that you hit your athletic peak? It was like sometime between 25 and 27. Um, that's when like I could, I could, you know,

I could drink and not feel it, you know, I could still like pretty much other than I have very small hands. I can't really grip a ball. So other than going like between the legs to dunk, I could do any dunk, you know, I could do a 360 windmill. I could windmill. I could tap it off the board and dunk. It was like that time. And then I was still like, I'd worked so much on my body that I could actually move fairly well. Um, and at 34, like I feel like I move as well or better than I did at 27. I just can't, I can't leap. Yeah. Like I used to in the bounce back. Yeah. Yeah. And I had to like take better care of myself and be cognizant, but like two, two IPAs will do a number on me the next day. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You could do a 360 windmill duck. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

Practice. Yeah. Same with me in practice. I mean, I never, I never was a great in game dunk shooter. And that was because it just, it just sounds more like changing. I used to take so much energy, man. I've got to run off the screens. I've got to run off the screens. I'm not fucking just the gather and the just, oh, and then the come down from hanging on the rim. That's like a good three feet. Yeah. And you can injure your foot that way too. Just be careful. So when you, let's talk about Duke. I think people want to talk about Duke. Do you get sick of talking about Duke? That's the first question about Duke. Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's usually the first question. Okay. We're going to ask questions that you probably haven't been asked about. You tell us

what question you don't want to ask about Duke. Yeah. What's coach, coach K-line? No, that's not what we're going to ask. Don't ask. No, we're going to ask, is it true that coach K fakes injuries when he knows his team is in a slump and doesn't want it on his record? Okay. Are you referring to 1995? I can go through my notes. Yeah. Let me see the notes on that. I've got a ledger. Yeah. I mean, coach K has an injury or an illness like once every two and a half years that causes him to miss. Yeah. A couple games. Usually in the middle of a road stretch. Yeah. It's like, oh shoot, we got to go on the road to NC State and Virginia. Oh, we got to play Syracuse. Ow, my arm. Damn. This sounds like a Reddit forum. No, no, no. I mean, it may, yes,

but no. A conspiracy theory. I don't, I don't know the whole story with 95. I mean, I assume he had back surgery. Yeah. I assume he was there in the room. You'd hope. You'd hope. Yeah. Did you see him in the bed? I saw the doctor's note. Okay. I think there was one time my junior year, we were playing Georgia Tech at home and we were coming off a really emotional game. I can't remember who it was against. Maybe Wake Forest. I think we lost against Wake Forest on like a Wednesday on national TV. So we play the CBS afternoon game against Georgia Tech. And at some point in the first half during a timeout, we're all like coming back to the bench for the timeout and he just like collapses on the floor. Oh yeah, I know that. Yeah, yeah. It was

a weird collapse. Here's the thing. Like, are you really questioning like a 65 year old man who's like in a hot room with 9,000 people? Like, could, is it, what was the score? Is it possible that he could collapse during a game? Was he out of time out? That's scary. Yeah, right. He's probably out of time out. Yeah. Did you have four fouls? Is that why he collapsed? He's like, we're not going to win this game. Did he ever take away your guys right to wear Duke clothes? Yes. What was that? Like that actually happens? Yeah. So like you'd come in the locker room. And first of all, all of our lockers were locked. I don't know how they knew our codes, but they did. Maybe they had like, had to have a master. Right, right. First case got it on his belt. Exactly. So they'd come,

we'd come in the locker and your locker room and your locker would be empty. And then all your shit was just piled in the middle with all everyone else's shit. And in your, in your locker, like in your chair would be like these blue and white reversible jerseys that they got at Walmart with no Duke insignia or anything. And they'd, you know, he'd give you the spiel, you know, you're not worthy to wear Duke on your chest. And you'd have to go practice in short shorts and, and Walmart gear. What did you have to accomplish to get the Duke back? It was all arbitrary. We figured out actually this was a, this happened maybe my junior year. Daniel Ewing was a senior. Him and I were two of the captains. And we, we realized these meetings

that should have taken 30 minutes were taking like going on three hours. And we realized that as soon as Daniel Ewing would cry, the meeting would end. So if a meeting ever got too long, one of us would just kind of nudge Daniel and he just, you know, he'd give his spiel and then he'd start, you know, he'd kind of make himself cry. That's awesome. And yeah, it was great. Would you ever hear Dick Vitale like on the sidelines calling your game like after you shot? Oh baby. Or did he ever try to kiss you? Give me, give me, give me those lips. Never tried to kiss you. Never tried to kiss me. Okay. I can remember. What about like a, like a, maybe, you know, like sitting next to your crush and like gently like brush up against them. Does he ever do that

to you? Like you're sitting next to like, you know, the girl like in middle school and you're like, your knees like hit each other and it's like, oh, there's electricity going on here. I thought you said something about the crotch. No. Crotch. Crotch. Crotch. Crotch. You said crotch. Told you we were going to ask questions you haven't been asked. I don't, I don't remember having any sort of inappropriate contact, physical contact with Vitale at any point in my life. Okay. All right. All right. Fair. I never thought to myself, wow, that's inappropriate. Did you know at the time that he probably more than anything in life just wanted you to come kiss him on his forehead? I remember watching those games and God damn, he loved you. He really loved you. He loved you.

I would, I would venture say like Mike Patrick might have loved me more. Oh yeah, that's true. Like as much as, yes. Vitale loved me. They both loved you a lot. You have some dark moments in the NBA and sometimes you need a little confidence boost. So you go on YouTube and you're like, you do that? Senior year. I had 34 at Clemson. What's the one? What's the one? Is that the tape? What's the one that like you're go to? I'm going to Google and just get my confidence back. What game? Oh man. What's the JJ Reddit game and that you look back on most fondly at Duke? Probably the Texas game. Okay. The Texas game. Yeah. I had 41 at the metal ends. It was like one versus two. That was probably, it was one of my favorite games, but there's like other ones.

I mean, like every NBA player does this. I don't know. I'm not like embarrassed to admit this. No, absolutely not. Sometimes like you're literally in like a two for 24 slump and you're like, I just, can the ball go in? Has the ball ever gone in for me? And then you, you know, you just pulled the highlight. Yeah. A real question about Duke. How much did it fuck you up mentally being that hated at that young of an age? Because you were, I mean, we're talking Christian Latiner level. We're talking about, you know, you saw Grayson Allen start just tripping people because people hated him so much. You were the era parent to Wojo, right? He was the guy that kind of bridged the gap of hateable Duke players between Latiner and yourself. Throw Chris Collins in there for me.

Chris Collins, John Shire, you're the junkyard, John Shire, because John Shire won a national title. That hurt, didn't it? That doesn't mean that was mean. Still bothers me. Yeah. But you did have out of Morrison. Thank you. So that's how you got that. Yeah, it fucked me up. It fucked me up. It forced me to take on a persona that was not me. I think most, there's not many 18 or 19 year old kids that are like really comfortable with who they are. You're still at the point in your life where you're trying to figure things out. You're also like inevitably, I think every male at that age is a little bit of a douchebag. Absolutely. Yes, 100%. So the confluence of those things like made me into this like maniac on the

court. And I think I toned it down as I matured at Duke, like my junior and senior year, but even then you see something that I did or like the head bobbing or talking shit to the Baltimore Ravens owner when we're kicking their ass at Maryland. And I'm just like, why was I doing those things? They're cringe-worthy. Right. So I think part of it too was some of it was immaturity, but I had to like, truthfully, I had to process people saying things that you just don't hear said about you to youth, about your family. Some of the stuff that was said about my sisters was just like, how can anyone just be that hateful? It just didn't make sense to me. And so there was a lot of processing. And especially those first two years at Duke, I wanted to quit my sophomore

year. Like I remember in December of that year, I had my sisters meet me on campus. They lived in Raleigh. They still do. And they lived in Raleigh. They came over for dinner and I was just like, I don't want to play anymore. Like this is not for me. It's not fun. You know, like I really struggled those first two years. It was really hard for me. I spent like three years at Duke, like seeing a therapist. I mean, yeah. And it was like the best thing for me. Is there an element of like, you get treated as a villain for so long that you start to just become a villain? That's like, you start to buy into what you're saying about it? Oh, yeah, yeah. So it's like, it's like, you think I'm an asshole? Okay, I'll be an asshole.

Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, you're 19 and you're like, I kind of like this. I kind of like this. I never, even like now, I don't like, I'm never like, Oh, we're playing on the road. There's 20,000 people screaming against me. Like I've never, even at Duke, I didn't feel that. What I felt was just like, things being said to me, like, you know, even like on campus, we're in the middle of North Carolina. So, you know, the woman who spread your cream cheese on your bagel in the morning at the food hall is talking shit to you. And you're like, what? I can't, I can't escape this. Right. I can't go anywhere. Right. And at the time, and although like, I don't, as a professional now, I don't think college basketball is maybe as

big necessarily as I felt it was at the time, but it felt like I was just in this fishbowl and everybody was looking at me. Yeah. I mean, you, you, and you kind of were, I mean, J.J. Reddick at Duke was like the height of kind of college basketball at those years. You know, I mean, I think if you have a hateable white guy at Duke, they kind of trends and I stayed for years. Right. And they trends in a few people get that always happens where people, if you see, if a college player stays for years and is successful every year, it feels like they never graduated. It's like this guy again, I like, are you serious? He's in his seventh year. Right. Exactly. It's the Perriella's fact, although he was like seven years, eight years. What's your

top four? Would you say the most hated Duke players of all time? Are you on it? Yeah. Mount Rushmore, Christian Leightner, you. Christian Leightner, me, Grayson. The fourth one's tough. It is. Because I think those three. Yep. Speaking honestly, I would, I would probably, I think me and Leightner would probably be one, two in any order really, depending on how you viewed it. And then Grayson, the fourth, I don't know. It's like, it's so hard for me to say Shire because he's such a nice guy. I know he is. And he never did anything wrong other than silly faces. Right. The worst thing I ever did, of course, make a weird grown face. Right. The screen shot it over and over. That's all it takes. Yeah. So I'll put, I'll put Wojo there. Okay. All right.

That's perfect. So when you graduated Duke and I, we have this theory, did you get the tattoos in the Euro haircut to try to be like, Hey, I'm a different guy. Like, oh, that's, Duke guys love to do that where they get into the NBA and they have a totally different look so you can be like, did that guy play it too? I can't remember. So our heat kind of like, you slow us down on our heat. Yeah. I was transitioning into the NBA. And as I came into the NBA, there was all these players in the league that literally wanted to like chew me up and spit me out. And I felt like a lot of that was Duke, you know, and so, and all of it was, I was a cocky, arrogant 21 year old, but you know, so I actually felt like I sort of distanced myself

from Duke. I wish I hadn't done that for like, maybe two years that those first two years in the league. And, and then like, I got like a, I got like the faux hawk. Remember, it was like 2008. Yeah. In 2007 2008, like people had like the faux hawk where you would like shave the sides, but leave the back long in the middle, and then spike it up. And I had that and looking back, that was one of the worst haircuts. I mean, I've had bad haircuts, but it's like the plumbly brothers do all of them have, you know, beards or different haircuts. It's the best way to do it. The tattoos, I don't, because I, I mean, I got like two little ones, one on my chest and one on my stomach, like when I was at Duke, I don't know. I was like, that wasn't to me like in an effort to

like be anti-Duke. It was just kind of like, especially like the sleeve is just something I wanted to do. I think a lot of people go through that. It was self-serving. Yeah, it was self-serving. After you graduate college, you're still trying to find yourself. It's probably not strictly related to Duke basketball, but I feel like there's a higher correlation there that we've noticed. Yes. When you guys, so one thing I always notice about Duke is every single time there's a whistle, whenever there's a dead ball, no matter what it is, you guys all do that thing where you huddle up together, put your arms around each other, and then you say something, do you ever run out of shit to say? Because it happens like five times a minute. Yeah, it does happen a lot. There's,

there's three whistles in 30 seconds. It gets annoying. Usually it's like the captain, whoever's on the court that's a captain is like in charge of speaking, but this is all like going back to Coach K's military background. I mean, this is something like he's sort of instituted from the beginning. He played for and coached under Bob Knight. Like this is just, this is old school. I mean, this is something that, you know, he's taught for 40 or 50 years and I don't know, like, I don't even remember what I used to say in those huddles other than like, let's go. If you really lip read them, it's like, let's go. Come on guys, come on guys. Rebound better. Yeah. Like what, like what else are you gonna say? Get the fucking ball. Shoot it. For a while,

I used to think that, that Duke basketball players were these master tacticians that would make these like tiny adjustments every time there was a whistle. And then I was like, they're probably just congratulating each other, like giving like small little words of encouragement. Yeah. It's, yeah, I would, I would totally agree with that. It is not any sort of strategic talk in those huddles. It's very quick and it's like maybe a reminder, you know, maybe a reminder. We're switching on this play or something like that, but it's not like, here's what we need to do on the next play, guys. Right. I do think that there's a subtle bias that goes along with doing that for the referees. If a referee sees a team that's like well regimented and like that, organized, getting

together between plays, then they'll be like, you're more likely to say, you know what, that was a charge. Yeah. That's a disciplined team. So care to comment on the fact that you guys get all the calls in every single game ever. Coach K also pays the refs. True. That's a fact that we know. Well, I was building up saying that as a fact. Oh man. But do you understand what I'm saying? Like if a ref sees a team that I'm just going to say this in general, like, so our in the NBA, our referees are the best referees in the world. Good comment, JJ. There they are. They're the best referees. They had the hardest job in the world though, because we're all tricksters. We're all actors. We all got shit up our sleeve and we know how to, we know how to fool them and

they've gotten so much better at figuring out the ways we fool them and they change the rules. They, you know, they, they figure all this stuff out. Having said that, they're still not, they're still not very good because they're, they're like making these sort of split second reads in real time with a bunch of tricksters. College refs on the other hand are God awful and they're not good in any sort of definition of the world. They're just, they're just bad referees. I watch a college game and it doesn't actually make any sense the way they officiate games. Yeah. It's, college basketball is hard to watch and I look back on my time and I'm like, all right, I could understand why, you know, I mean, I would like come off a screen and as I'm coming off the screen, I would just

grab the guy's arm and run through the screen. I get a foul every time, every time and the guy would go to the referee and complain and say, oh, he grabbed me and the next time on the court, I'd do the same shit and I get the call again. And they never figured it out. My first year in the NBA, I tried it in one game. I called for an offensive foul. Like it's, so I just, I don't think it's Duke, man. If you watch Villanova and St. John's in a February, what conference thing now? Still the Big East? Yeah, that is the Big East. Yeah, still the Big East. In a Big East game, like it's just bad officiating. And it's, it matters more in college because you get, you know, five fouls and they sit a guy down and you get two fouls

in five minutes and you basically don't play to the second half and it ruins the whole game. How awkward was Dwight Howard and Stan Van Gundy's relationship? Man, it's a loaded question. So I always felt like Stan with every guy, you always knew where you stood. He was, he'd never, whether it was Dwight or me or Carlos Arroyo or any other guy, like he never put kid gloves on. He just told it like it was. He told it like it was in front of the team. So that relationship to me was never awkward. I always knew that Stan's personality maybe rub Dwight the wrong way at times. And I think some of that was, Dwight would probably admit this too, but some of it was probably Dwight's immaturity at the time. After that press conference in,

in March of what was that 2012, I mean, that relationship was irreparable. I mean, that was the end of it. I remember I was on the other side of the court doing my post shoot around routine. And I saw those cameras and I'd heard the rumor like that Dwight had tried to get Stan fired. So I kind of knew what was going on and Stan gave this really lengthy press conference. And I saw Dwight walk over there and I was like, oh God, I'm getting out of here. And I go in the cold tub and like three seconds later, it's all over Twitter. It was one of the weirdest, like that whole thing that year that last year with Dwight was one of, there was like three of the most surreal moments that I've had in my career were that year with Dwight. And that was definitely

one of them. What were the other two? Hymns, right before like training camp was over, him standing naked in the shower with all of us and saying like, I love you guys, I'm getting traded to the Nets tonight. And then that not happening. And then the day of the trade deadline we played in San Antonio. And we had like a 430 bus for like a seven o'clock game. And I'm on the bus and it gets like five 15 and we're still waiting on Dwight. So he finally gets on the bus. And they're like, yeah, he was on the phone with ownership and Otis RGM. And he's not he's not going to opt in. He's going to become a free agent. So they're going to trade him. So I remember getting back on the bus after the game and stand, you know, the head coach is always the first

guy on the bus after the game and stands on the bus and he smiles at me and gives me a head nod, fist bumps me like that. And I'm like, all right. So I guess we're trading Dwight. And then and then we're on the plane and I've got my headphones on and there's a group of guys like kind of goofing off in the front in the front of the players cabin. And and there's like some commotion. I'll say I take my headphones off and I hear Dwight saying, man, I love you guys. Fuck it. I'm opting in. Just on the spot ops in. And we see like winning money off you guys in a card game or something. I don't know what prompted it. Like I think it was just like it was like Q Rich and Earl Clark and like do Han like they were just they were all just like talking shit.

And then I was like, I love you guys. I'm up tonight. Did anybody on the team like really loved Dwight? Do you have buddies? Um, I don't you know, I looking back, I don't really remember. I mean him and Jamir had their moments. You know, Dwight at the time had like a crew is like a you know, a couple of his cousins from high school, seven snakes, whatever. I don't know what you call him. But yeah, like he literally snakes. He owns. Yeah. So I yeah, he just hung out with them for the most part. Um, I need to I have a bone to pick with you. Okay. You think that Kevin Durant going to the Golden State Warriors was a cool move. Great decision. We happen to think he's a baby back bitch for it. We've been rep. Actually, we don't say that word

anymore. CJ McCollum. Yeah, I started that little Twitter fight. So why do you think do you at least understand from a fan's perspective? Because I'm all for, you know, players going wherever they want. But from a fan perspective, it did kind of shift the balance of the league. And it does feel at times like no one's going to beat the Warriors. Yeah. So let's talk about the real quick the shift in the balance of the balance of league. Okay. We should have smoothed the cap that anomaly that once in a literally a generation bump in cap space should never have happened, which made it all possible should never have been able to sign Kevin Durant in the first place. I think the last I've been a free agent last two summers. I mean, the statistics back this up.

The Wall Street Journal had a thing. It was like 300 or $3.4 billion were handed out in free agency in 2016. Last summer was 1.9. This summer was 1.7. The average length of contract was like two and a half years in 16. This past summer was like 1.7 or 1.6 or something like that. So if you were a free agent the past two summers, you got hurt. Even in 15, all these teams were anticipating the cap bump and they overspent that summer. And those contracts don't come off until 19 this coming summer. So I don't think it should ever happen the first place. Having said that, the reason I'm a fan of it is because I think there's too many players and Dwight is a great example of this that want to please everyone, that feels a necessity to please everyone. And it's just

completely impossible. And I like seeing a player ultimately do what he wants to do, what's going to make him happy, even if he pisses a bunch of people off. Because if he resigned in OKC, he's still pissing off some people. He's still pissing off some people. Russell Westbrook, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, I just, you know, there's, I talked about this on my podcast actually, there's two sides to sort of the anger. The fan side I get, you know, he basically signed with the world champions. They had lost the previous year, but he signed with the best team in basketball. He created the super team, a cheat code, whatever you want to call it. So I get that. There's like a reason to be angry there.

But like, I also think some of the backlash is because like this, I think there's a negative sort of feeling towards player autonomy and players having control of their career. Right, which I don't agree with. You don't agree with me on that. No, no, I don't agree with you. I agree with you. Well, that's why I've always struggled with it, because when it happened, I even said I was like, he should do whatever he wants to do. He should. And, you know, obviously watching the Warriors and having that impossible feeling like no one's going to beat them has kind of made me like a little bit bitter in, you know, retro, you know, going forward, but you're absolutely right because you see it all the time when players get, I mean, Blake Griffin, our friend, I don't

know if he's your friend anymore, clipper for life and then gets straight to the pistons. Let me say one other thing about this player autonomy, player control. I don't understand why fans try to get players to take less money. You're giving back money to billionaires, the owners, right? The other thing is everybody compares athletes to like, oh, an athlete is the CEO of his own business, which in a way I kind of agree with. What CEO would be like, you know what, we could have eight million in revenue this year, but I only want three million in revenue. That's in no one's best interest. There's obviously some caveats here about like fit and location and am I going to be on a winning team versus a bad team? The player

ultimately has to decide that, but like to just like take a pay cut to take a pay cut makes zero sense and no one in any other industry does that. My whole qualms is like why sign Carmelo Anthony if you could go out and pay 400 firefighters to join your team instead because that's the equivalent. Probably get the same stats. Keep it in perspective. Yeah, probably get better stats. Better stats, definitely. I heard you say the other day there are losers. That was an unnecessary shot at Carmelo Anthony. Well, Carmelo knows a lot about unnecessary shots. I heard the other day you said losers, there are losers on winners and winners on losers. Did you say that? Yeah, you did. I said something like that. I don't think that's right. What the hell did you mean? That's

my question. I'm still confused. Say that again. You were like there are losers and winners in the NBA. You can be a loser on a winner and a winner on a loser. Yes, okay. Yeah, I know what I'm saying. And are you a loser? I don't think that was my exact quote, but what I was I think referring to, I think, was how certain guys get labeled a winner, certain guys get labeled a loser, like Chris Paul is an example. Loser. Right. To me, he's a champion. Got him. Even though he's never won a championship. What about LeBron? He's a loser, six-time loser. What do you think? LeBron is a champion. He's a winner. Okay. We disagree, 0 for 2. And there's also guys who, you know, like Swaggy Peay. Like Robert Ory. Yeah, yeah, winner. Steve Kerr. These guys are

winners, right? I would say Jordan's the winner and Pippin's the winner and Tim Duncan's the winner. Those guys obviously stepped up and had big shots. I'm not saying that, but like, you know, like so you get like lumped into this and it's all based on like a very, when you think about the playoffs relative to 82 games of the course of a 10-year career, like one or two shots out of tens of thousands can sort of label you for the rest of your career. That seems kind of crazy to me. Manolytics. That's what we call it. Manolytics. It's analytics. That's when men stop out and start doing men stuff. So one or two shots, like the shot you missed in the playoffs against the Celtics when I got on the Sixers. Exactly. Yeah. Thanks for that. Yeah,

thank you. Now brought up the fact that I didn't win a championship at Duke. I'm just mad that I lost it. But you still have a chance. So let's talk about the Sixers. This is a team that like, how exciting is it to be on a team that feels like everything is new and you guys have just what feels like unlimited potential with Embiid and Simmons and their ceilings have not been reached? When I signed with them last summer in 2017, I didn't think we'd be as good as we were. I think we were like 42 and 13 in the regular season after all-star break and had a chance to go to the conference finals or after Christmas, I should say, 42, 13 after Christmas for the remaining 55 games of the year. And it's like,

I didn't expect that growth in year one. I don't think anybody did, even on the team or the organization. And so going into this year, like you're almost like cautious, like, well, like, where do we go from 52 wins? Like, do we have to win like 58? Do we have to get to the conference finals? Like, and having been a part of what happened in the Clippers of the course of four years, like you're so fearful of stalled growth is something I thought about this summer. And so I mean, we are still like, I really believe this, we're still like tapping into the potential because Joe, as good as he is, and Ben is as good as he is, are still going to be so much better. I mean, five years when I'm done playing, those guys are first team all NBA players, you know.

Five more years for you? Breaking news? When I'm done playing, five years. I'm just saying, okay, five more years. Somewhere within that period. Okay, all right. Three to five. I will be done. Three to five. Yeah. And then like, and then you have like, you know, Dario, Markel, like, you still have other young guys that are going to get better. You know, it's, it's, I mean, it's really exciting. I didn't, this is not what I signed up for though, in a way. Like, I was like, all right, I'll, you know, come here for a year. We'll see how it goes. I'm open to re-signing. And now it's like, well, this would make sense for me to sort of play the rest of my career here. Right, right. Yeah. Brian Colangelo is collars. Do you have a problem with him?

I love BC. He signed me. Yeah. He was good to me. Never bash you with one of his burners. I can't bash him as a professional. His collars were a little oversize. That's the only negative thing I will say about BC. That's my guy. How weird was that though? That whole situation? Negative collars? No. Well, first of all, the collars, just how strange were they? They were distracting. Yes, they're large. They're very large. They have gravitational pull. But when that story broke, were you guys inside the locker room like, this can't be true? Or did you guys read it and you're like, holy shit, this is real. The season was over. I went to bed super early that night. And I woke up, couldn't sleep at like 11. And no, it was earlier than that,

because the story broke at like 930 p.m. Tommy, our boy, had texted me at like 912 and was like, yo, I just heard this story. You know, don't think I was keeping this from you. Only four people at the ring are new. And he's like, there's going to be a story about BC. When I read the story, it was, I mean, it was crazy, like it's crazy. Like it's, again, we talk about surreal things in my career. Yes, it's in the top five. Yes. For sure. And then, and then like the next morning, when I was explaining to Chelsea, at like 630 in the morning, when we were having coffee with our with our two year old, she got like an alert on her phone, it was like Ben Simmons is dating Kendall Jenner. And I was like, shit, we're turning the clippers 2.0. Are you the problem?

Maybe it's me. So no, it was, that's crazy. I mean, it's crazy. I, I, I've talked to BC since then. I take BC at his word of what he told me. So what did he tell you? That was BC. You're his wife. He, I, no, I just think he was like, I think he was shocked that like, something like this happened. He didn't indicate to me anything about his wife. I think it's just like sort of incredulous. Would you have a different tone if he had bashed you with his burner accounts? Probably not. I played for Stan, you know, like Stan is like one of those guys are like, you're only as good as your last game. It's like he'd come in and be like, you're so shitty. And I'd be like, I don't know, Stan, over my last 10, I've been averaging 15 points a game and

shooting 50% from three. And he's like, yeah, but you were shitty last night. You're a terrible player. And I'd be like, okay, I guess I'm terrible. And then the next game, you know, you just, you never know. So I haven't played for him. I also think to like, you get to a certain age and you realize you're not really the priority anymore. Everybody thinks sort of long term in the NBA now. And so everybody wants, you know, young studs on rookie contracts, and you get to a certain age. And, you know, you're still a good player, but you're not the priority. Do you like being called a veteran leader? No. It's just like old guy. It's like basically a code for old guy who's watched. When I think of veteran leader, I think of like, like bad players, you know, that are like past

their prime. I still feel like, I mean, I feel like I had, you know, one of my two or three best seasons last year. And so I still feel like I have a lot to give as a player. And I certainly have a lot to give, you know, in terms of experiences. I like the thing about veteran leader, and I talked with Brett about this at the beginning of the year, and I talked with a few of the guys privately about this, but like, I just don't believe in like, all of a sudden, like, I'm coming into a new situation and I'm supposed to like be a leader. Like, that's not how leadership works. Right. Anywhere. Right. You know, you have to earn people's trust. You have to earn people's respect. So like, it took me like four or five months into the season before I felt like super

comfortable about being a leader, you know. And so like, that's why I partly why I wanted to resign is because like, it gives me another another year experience of doing that. But like, it's just, I've always found that the guys in my profession, the guys that are the leaders that talk the most aren't really the leaders. Interesting. Yeah. Like Chris ball. I didn't say that. Hypothetically. He didn't, he also didn't deny it. It's funny that you went there. We're, I just, we're very big Blake Griffin stands. So you know where we, where we side on this entire thing. Under your leadership. I said it. Under your leadership role that you mentioned that you had and always wanted with the Sixers. When you saw Markel, when you saw Markel Foltz struggling with his jump shot this

year, did it ever occur to you to go up to him and be like, Hey, maybe watch some YouTube highlights of my game against Texas. It's possible for people to make shots. Get your swag back. But like, do you even say something to a guy like that? Or like, was that one of those surreal moments where you're just, that was, that was another weird experience. So the one thing about my involvement with Markel was I was sensitive to the fact that he had dozens of people offering up unsolicited advice and wanting to help most of it well meaning. But you know, I did, I mean, I like him and I had private conversations on a few occasions during the season. And you know, I obviously offered my support, but I also offered help. And I don't know if you guys saw this,

but like there was a day where it was like the third straight day where as soon as after, after shoot around the third straight day after shoot around, where as soon as the cameras and everybody, the media was let into the, to the practice facility from, from the media room, they, they just would like run over and like do this to Markel as he was working out. And it wasn't, and I got upset and I think I dropped an F bomb and they caught me on camera saying it and then they asked about me afterwards. I think I called, I, in reference to the reporters, I think I said, you're sick or it's, it's sick, like demented in the head. Like what was upsetting to me wasn't necessarily that they were like not doing their job. They were doing their job. They were,

they were showing a news story that happened. It was the tone and the body language in which they were doing it. It was like seeing vultures over and over on, on a dying, like a dying body. And I'm like, the kid's fucking 19. The kid's fucking 19. Right. Clearly going through something. Like give them a break. Right. At some point, just be a human. Right. You know, and so I, like that to me, I was so pissed that day. And, you know, they, they caught some of it on camera. Yeah. But that was veteran leadership because you made the story about you. That's why Markel, you took heat off. That's why they brought you in. That wasn't my intention. My intention was because I was really fucking pissed. Well, you did a good job.

You're a veteran leader when you don't even know it. Yeah. All right. Well, let's do a couple of rapid fire because you've been gracious with your time. Well, let's do a Seeky question first. Put in promo code take. You get $10 off Seeky question. Can you get in an NBA Twitter fight at some point, please? Do it. I'm trying to start one. Who do you want to start with? I'll start it. I'm one and I'm one for one. I'm starting. All it takes is just tweeting out the, the eyeball emoji and then people be like, oh shit, something's going on. Who do you want to start with? I want to sort of instigate one, I should say. Okay. So do you guys follow all the workout videos that get posted? Yeah. Okay. So I think it's a little excessive at this point. Oh,

it is very excessive. Now like guys are like actually producing their own workout videos. All right. Yeah. I'm just like, all right. Just like whatever. So there's two trainers they got into beef earlier this summer, Drew Hanlon and Chris Brickley. So I think it'd be great if I just had the two of them on my podcast. Yes. And just them hash it out on the pod. Yes. Do it. While doing box jumps. Whatever they do. Yeah. First gotta peak loses. I like that. I do want to give you an opportunity to say something good about coach K. So it's not all just us bearing him. What was one thing that he actually taught you? I think his greatest strength, which is something that I witnessed both as a player and as a fan and something that I've learned from him

as a friend is his adaptability. Coach K doesn't have a system. He's never had a system. His hair goes gray. He dies at black. Well, I was going to say the best advice is he coaches every team differently. He coaches every player differently. You know, his thing is like, I'm going to maximize whatever talent I have on a team on to maximize it. You can't say anything shitty about that. That's a serious no, it's true because no, I'll give it. I'll give credits to coach K. I agree with PFT. I think one of the best lessons is probably start dyeing your hair like five years before it goes black. So people just we never understood it. Yeah, like we would be in practice on like a Wednesday and we've been a huddle and we'd be like, oh, he's got like three or four

grays and then four days later on Saturday. Interesting. You'd be in a huddle and you're like, oh, he's got jet black hair everywhere. Yeah, never understood how that worked. Everywhere. I carpets. Is there some sort of product for that? Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, though. He is like, you just see it with the one and done. He became the master of the one. Yeah, after like, he thought it a little bit, right? He fought it at first. And then he now kicks the she's all in. And now, yeah, so he evolved, he adapted, he learned that you have to start paying guys $30,000 instead of $15,000 a year. So he, you know, he evolved with the times credit to Coach K. What is he going to do without his bag man now that Cable is at Pittsburgh? That's a great

question. That's going to be tough. He's going to have to adapt again. He's going to have to adapt. I'm going to wrap up my questions with a new thing we're doing. It's called People Also Ask. So this is on Google. So just so you know, I, we are not asking these questions. People are asking them. Okay. So the first one, people also ask, what does JJ stand for in JJ Reddick? Do you want me to answer that? Yeah. No, people are asking. All right. As brief as possible. I have older twin sisters. When I was a baby, they called me J. And they also said everything at the same time. So it doesn't stand. That's really creepy. Yeah. That is creepy. Started out as a joke that people called me JJ. And then it just stuck. And as long as I can

remember, I'm JJ. But Jonathan Clay is my name. So JJ doesn't stand for JJ. So you're JC. I'm JJ. JC Reddick. That's why even I got to talk. I don't hate John Reddick. You got to, you can bleep this out. I got to talk to the ringer because on my like podcast decal, yeah, it's JJ Reddick podcast, but it's J dot J dot, which that implies it stands for something. Yes. That's not how I write or send my name. Are you John or Jonathan? Jonathan. Jonathan Reddick would actually not be a hateable person. That's your, that's your real estate. Do you think that my name is part of the reason? I think so. Yeah. I think so. It's like, it stands out a little bit. Right. You know, it's also like, once you get older, like going by a nickname like that,

I don't know. So your license is kind of like, it's kind of like being a 45 year old Davey. Yeah. Or like, yeah, you got to transition into Dave or David. Yeah. Like Teddy Bridgewater. Like, dude, your name's Ted. Yeah. Jimmy Garoppolo. You're Jim. Why are you Jimmy? Right. We're saying that to like a 40 year old dude. Hey, you're Jimmy. Okay. Another people also ask, how much is JJ Reddick worth? People are asking that. No, that wasn't our question. We appreciate you to answer that. And that's kind of awkward for the people. That's not us. We didn't ask that. I would tell the people that's rude to round up, but you're answering. We're round down. Well, I mean, you can go to basketball reference and you can see my career earnings on basketball

reference. Okay. And then you can do a little thing where you divide by half because of taxes. You don't have endorsements? Not. I mean, like I do, but nothing like I'm not got a millions per year. Got it. Got it. Yeah. That's bright money. All right. Last people also ask, people also ask, is Tyler Hansboro retired? Yeah, that's under JJ Reddick. People also ask questions. I thought of Tyler the other day. In what way? I think I was just not to get creepy sounded weird. I was thinking about people that I like played against or like, sort of the same age as me. It was like when one of those like dad sort of dad moments, like I'm feeling really old today. Yeah. And then I'm like, how the fuck am I still playing? And I start thinking about all the people like I played

with growing up or that I played against in college or early in my career. And I'm like, those guys, I feel like Tyler Hansboro, he's been out of league for like five years. I don't know that to be fact, but it feels that way. It feels that way. I don't know what he's doing now. He was in the conglomerate with Frank. Yeah, he was in the couple years ago, Psycho T. The conglomerate. Yeah, Charlotte. Yeah. Were you ever in that? No, I wasn't. I was a teammate of Spencer's in LA. If you want to be, if you want to start turning your millions into billions, that's how you do it. Oh, just start buying more lottery tickets. All right, JJ. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me on. Someday we'll come on your podcast. All right, great.

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just goes together. But we're going to say John Gruden, yeah, he was the one who created this jail in courthouse. And it's a great time machine back to the days when fans were really fans. Well, I'm pretty sure the black hole had had a prison in it at one time too. Don't fact check that. But I'm going to say that he offers a coordinator for the Philly Philadelphia Eagles 1995, 1997 credit to our football brains. Okay. There you go. So John Gruden, I think he's, he's going for like a 1998 vibe. That also has a retro vibe. So he's going for like a late 90s kid wearing bell bottoms. Ironically, that's what Gruden's going for with this football. I like this move. I think Gruden probably wants to, he sees himself as being the judge in this

courthouse. Like they should let him actually officiate these trials. Yes. And dole out punishment that way. He'd probably just let fans off the hook as long as they were Raiders fans. Yeah. If you're wearing silver and black. Yes. Or have Mark Davis just be the judge, jury and executioner. That would work as well. If I see Mark Davis in a powdered wig, I can die happy. Yes. That would be so amazing. Oh my God. If he was just like doing an old parliament vibe and he just sat there and decided who gets to live and who gets to die. Or he was like the guy from emperor. What's the, what's the movie? The, the Coliseum, the Rome one. You know what I'm saying? Rome glad. Yeah, glad eater. He's thumbs up, thumbs down. He's walking Phoenix doing thumbs up, thumbs down.

Yeah. Sell that as a reality show. It will pay for your own fucking stadium. I like that a lot. I'm really enjoying the concept of that. Also, I want to tack on to this. We might have to say like, it's not just John Gruden's time machine anymore. I think it's a Gruden brothers time machine because J Gruden just brought in Adrian Peterson. And I think he also, I, when I first saw the report, I saw Jamal Charles. And that's not that old of a name. They brought in Jamal Charles. My mind just thought it said Priest Holmes for a second. And so I was, I was later in Peterson. Yeah. I think, I think they still got some tread on their tires. Yes. So, so J Gruden's getting on the action. I think he sees his brother,

John, get all the headlines. He's like, man, we got to go ahead and we got to show some old film around here too, man. I love it. By the way, shout out Stella. You probably heard her. She hasn't been heard from for a while, but she's making a little appearance on the show right now. We have, before we get to the guys on chicks and embrace the bait. I just want to say going back real quick to the John Gruden thing. I think John Gruden should be deputized to be able to decide like who gets the death penalty as long as it takes place in the confines of Las Vegas, Nevada. I think he should be the constable for that. John Gruden should have a gun and a badge on the sidelines. Yes. That's, I think we all agree. Last boy scout. He just gets to shoot. Oh, he would

definitely shoot a running back going for the goal line. I would feel safer. Yes. Absolutely. The world would be a safer place. Okay. Before we get to guys on chicks, we have embraced the bait. Breaker Mayfield took a picture today with a tiger. It was, it was a Lambo and a tiger. I don't even know what it was. It was a really fit, a Bentley and a tiger shirt off, big package, big dick. But we had this before the show started. Do you think I, I didn't, I thought he had pretty just normal. Oh, he had a normal deck. I mean, yeah, I think so. Well, it's, I mean, it's relative to my, which is small. So my penis is small. So his penis is large in relation. So that's that's how I did my math, my quick math back in the napkin stuff. Either way, embrace the bait.

I think this is way too soon for Baker Mayfield. He's doing John Dorsey impressions on Twitter too. Dude, I like play Baker Mayfield a lot. I actually think he's going to be a good quarterback, but it's still the Browns. You still have to win a couple of games. Otherwise this all is going to look ridiculous. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you on that one. I think it showed a lot of maturity. You'll notice that the underwear didn't have the brown stripe on the back. He hasn't earned that one yet. I think if you're going to do a commercial, might as well do it for underwear. What this says is like, Hey, I know I'm going to get shit for my teammates. And so I'm, I'm confident enough to stand up in front of everybody and have Hugh Jackson. That's going to be a scene in hard

knocks, by the way, calling my shot for week four. Hugh's going to have that queued up on the overhead projector and they're going to bring Baker up to the front and force him to explain his choice in underwear commercials to the team. Okay. Counterpoint. It's still the fucking Browns. Okay. Counter, counterpoint. The Browns are good this year. The Browns are back. Counter, counter, counter, counter counterpoint. That is just something everyone says to each other because they're excited for football to be back and they need, I've had this theory now for a couple of weeks that much like when you get stuck in an elevator with someone at work and you're like, Oh man, the weather, that is now the new, Oh man, the weather. I think the Browns are going to be good this year.

That's what everyone just says to each other to make conversation about football. Well, what it is, we're so dumb that we're watching hard knocks and they can make anybody look interesting. They made the chiefs look interesting. They made the Texans look interesting. They're making the Browns look interesting because it's all that we see all the time. So yeah, I'm just going to lean into my own stupidity and say, I think the Browns are going to win the division. I'm with Hank now. Did you watch the third episode yet or the second episode yet? The second episode. Yeah. Okay. The David Kajusti guy who is his dad had three heart attacks. I didn't know a human being could have that many heart attacks and having him break that to him

live on air was such an awesome hard knocks moment being like, he's like, yeah, my dad had two heart attacks and then he looked turned to him and said, I just had my third actually. He's like, what? You didn't tell me that. Oh man. This is the Browns. This is the Browns. That was kind of crazy to see that and thoughts and prayers to Las Vegas because I think I read that they've had 80% of the bets coming in are on the Browns to win that division. So like, you've got the Browns, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens and 80% of those bets for the AFC North have been on the Browns. So yeah, I read a quote and I forget which sports book it was, but the guy said, right now our only liability is if the Browns win the division. So shaping up to be a pretty good

year in Las Vegas. Don't worry. Don't worry, dude. They won't. Okay. Let's get two guys on chicks, but just a quick show note on Friday. We have an episode that has never been done in our three, two and a half years of doing this show. We're really, we're really excited about it. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's something totally different. If you want to do a little homework beforehand, it's going to be interesting no matter what, but if you want to do a little homework beforehand, go YouTube, Joe Buck live episode one with Artie Lang, Paul Rudd. Watch that and get ready for Friday. We have an awesome, awesome show. And then on Monday, we're back with a regular show because we have, like PFT said week three preseason, it's a dress rehearsal for the real

thing. We'll break that all down, but Friday, get excited. Totally different show. It's going to be awesome. All right. Hank guys on checks. Hey guys, especially big cat. I saw my boyfriend's Insta search history and it's covered in girls, not like models and celebrities, but X's and regular girls and shit. Should I be worried? You know what this sounds like to me? Sounds like he's performing a little social experiment. So he actually tricked you and he's just trying to trigger you. He was trying to see how offended you would be if you found that. And so you didn't pass the test. Yeah. Also, he's probably just keeping up with like, so he liked a couple of girls. It's his X's and whatnot. The common

denominator is girls that he has at one time dated or is currently dating. He's probably just trying to see what you like and dislike so that you can get you a really awesome birthday present. Oh, that's a great point. Also, he sounds like a good guy. So every time he breaks up with a girl, he probably tells them, I just really want you to be happy and I just care so much about your happiness. And he's just checking in on them, making sure that they're living their best life. He's just being a good guy. He's being supportive. Sup times three. Sup. So why do girls have different style slash shaped slash types of nipples? What's up with that? Okay. Well, let me, you know, PFT, let me start with this because actually that's not just girls. That's

guys as well. If you've ever noticed this show is actually a perfect, you know, like America is the melting pot. We're a fish dish. Yeah, we are actually the melting pot for nipples. PFT has four Hank has little tiny dime pieces. And I have a cross between a pepperoni slice and a Hershey kiss. So we have aggressively dark nipples. Yeah, aggressively dark nipples. So it's actually a fun fact that all nipples, it's like a snowflake. No nipple is made exactly like another nipple. Except me. I have, I have the nipples of like a woman like an Indian woman who has like like 36 triple E's. Yeah. And I've got the nipples of golden lab. So listen, we're all, we're all made differently, but that's kind of how we're all the same. Yes, exactly. So it's a

fun thing. Also, they have different like shaped and size and colored nipples because babies like different like shapes and objects, babies have ADD. So they need to see different nipple every now and again. You have to figure out what you like as a baby. Hey guys, especially big cat, winky face. Whoa. I hooked up with an NFL QB right before training camp and that, that wasn't a shoe in to make the team. I didn't tell anyone, but now that he's doing super well in preseason and will probably make the team, is it cool to tell people also sorry, PFT, but it's not your boy broken. Okay. I was going to say, excuse me, Mrs. Roback. I think I know who it is. Who? This is Greta. Yeah, swag. Oh, yes, it is. Yeah, Kelly. We've probably received like a hundred of identical

messages being like, Hey, I hooked up with swag Kelly. No, I, I mean, good. That's, I guess you got a lot. Do you like the guy? Well, she's asking, is it cool to tell people now that he's killing it? Yeah. Well, you just did. Yes. Well, no, no, no, but she's telling people like, we don't know who the quarterback is. Like she wants to tell her no, it's hooked up with fill in the blank quarterback. It's swag Kelly. And, and the answer is, we don't know that. Yeah. Swag doesn't care. Yeah. The answer is go ahead, tell everyone, but just know you got the swag on you and it's not like you're not really bragging because you just got swept up in the swag. It could happen to anyone. If you put out the bat signal for all women in the Denver area that have hooked up with swag Kelly

in the last couple of months, it would be like that scene from Rudy where everybody walks into the office and puts their jerseys. It'd be, I am Spartacus. I am Spartacus. So you, I think you have a pretty big support group out there. So yeah, go for it. All right, last one, sub-PMT boys love the tweeting about JLo last night, big cat. My boyfriend lives in another town and his family is coming to a beach house near me where I live soon. He said we could meet up and hang out or grab dinner. But when I asked if I could come out and relax on the beach one of those days with them, he was hesitant and said that would be a lot since all of his family is going to be there. How is going to the beach where his family is at a lot and who is it a lot for? I've met his

immediate family already and didn't think that this was a big deal. Am I overthinking it or is he just nervous to bring a girlfriend around everyone? Okay, I want to say something that's going to sound really harsh, but I have to say it. I think he might be poor. I think she might be poor and I think he might be rich and that's one of those situations, you know, like he's got a beach house and she lives in the beach town. She's a townie in the beach town. Hank, you know about this. You're a townie in a beach town. Yeah, I guess. I mean, it's kind of, I don't know. Listen, maybe that was too much. Unless you might not be poor. This kid might just be super rich. Yes. Okay. Hank, thank you for cleaning me up there. Good spin zone. You are exactly in the

average wealth. He is just way too rich for you. He's just a couple of classes above. He's just a better person, but he's not because she's poor. Correct. So she's met his immediate family, but she hasn't met like the parents yet? No. Great parents, cousins, uncles, aunts, like the whole family is getting a beach house for a week. Okay. Yeah, he's definitely married and has kids. Yeah. That's what the issue is. He's part of the clone. He's got a second life. So second family, if you're okay with being the second wife, then that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. All right, I'm sorry for the poor comment. Hank was right. It's just, wait, she's just, he's just way richer. You're actually doing just fine. And you know what? Don't, don't let him boss you around. That's

kind of fucked up that he's like, Hey, I don't want, don't let, if someone's ashamed to bring you around their family, they're not for you. You're better than that. Okay. Go girl. Maybe he's got a crush on one of his cousins. Doesn't want you there to cock block him. That too. Or if anything flies at a beach house. Yeah. Or maybe one of his cousins is a Swag Kelly and you're just going to fuck him. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually Jim Kelly's family. We're talking about. Yeah. Lake Ontario is beautiful this time of year. Okay. That's our show. Love you guys. Yeah. It's part of my take presented by barstool sports.