Pardon My Take - JJ Watt

Episode Date: February 11, 2019

Football is back! Sort of. Recapping the new AAF league, what's good, what's bad, and what we hope changes (2:27 - 13:22). Who's back of the week including non spoiler talk of "Abducted In Plain Sight" the most fucked up documentary ever (13:22 - 27:42). Houston Texans JJ Watt joins the show and talks about the 2018 Texans, being uninjured for the first time in a long time, regrets on his past social media life, commencement speech at UW-Madison, and how we're kind of friends now (27:42 - 78:20). Segments include trouble in paradise for the Boston Celtics, Hmmm for Dabo Swinney, Respect The Biz Bob Costas, and Drunk Idea You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, JJ Watt, the return of JJ Watt. Great interview. I'm going to put the great stamp on it. We can actually talk a little bit before we do it about how the first one was not great and we've learned a lot from it. He's learned a lot from it. It was awesome. He came into the studio as one of those interviews that I think it's 50 minutes long and it was all, it was all good and it all felt like we could have just kept on talking really good to have him back on and we have a challenge that we probably will be doing that we need like everyone to start slight bullying,

just a little bully online telling them that he should let us challenge the Watt brothers. We also have AAF, Who's Back of the Week and Some Trouble in Paradise, packed show for a Monday. Before we do all that though, it's time to talk about the cash card from the Cash App, the number one finance app in the App Store. For a reason, the cash card is the most powerful debit card in the world and the only debit card with boosts, a money-saving feature you can't get anywhere else because Cash App invented it. Just select a boost in your Cash App, swipe the cash card and save 10% or more at Whole Foods, Shake Shack, Chipotle, Taco Bell, Chick-fil-A, Domino's and Coffee Shops. Want to go organic without paying for it? Save 10% on every bag of

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and we've waited very long, but football is back. It's finally back. Astrix, it's back. So the first night was good. Yeah, so the AAF. It's a complicated thing. We're going to break it down because really there's nothing else going on. Here's say something nice about the AAF to start. They picked the absolute perfect weekend because besides Duke in Virginia, there really wasn't much. I guess Oklahoma City, Houston was a decent game, but the AAF outrated the NBA game, the primetime NBA game, showing that America loves football over everything else, which we already know and we agree with. This is fact. But we also, I have a complicated feelings about the AAF. I think thinking about it more, you and I are the same age. We're both 34, not the Bragg. It's

like kind of cool because we're like mid-30s, but still young. Very mature as Vape. We remember how I still don't know anybody that won a Grammy, but I do Vape. The other day I said the name Phil Hartman and half the office was like, who? And I got really sad. But with that said, so our age, we remember the XFL and the excitement that came around with it and how it was going to revolutionize sports. And then it just fell off the face of the earth after like three or four weeks. So I'm not going to let myself fall for it again. I'm, I have my blinders up. I liked the AAF. I thought it was decent, not great, decent. The football kind of stunk. There's some good things though. We can talk about the good things. The nice thing is that if this league doesn't work out, we've got three more

brand new football leagues that will be starting over the course of the next 18 months. So if this one strikes out, then we've got the what? Fan controlled football. Yes. Then we've got the freedom football association. Surely they'll find enough quarterbacks for that. And then we've got the XFL, the granddaddy of them all. So there's going to be something for everybody. I wonder if there are going to be like XFL stands as opposed to like alliance stands. What I do like is that they are really hammering home that this league is called the alliance. Yes. That's what it is. Don't refer to it. You know, like when we talk about the national football league and we talk about watching football games in the national football league, you have to say those three words

in this. You just say the alliance and smooth. I actually think they fucked up already with that. I think they need to have an L in it. I just, it should be the AFL, the alliance football league and everyone will be like, oh, the AFL like the thing, you know, 50 years ago, the alliance league of allied alliances, the league of extraordinary alliances. I need a league to end to punctuate the feeling that we're talking about football. So yeah, it's it's decent. Like it's not good. The quarterback play was bad. Well, here's the offensive line play was bad. Here's the thing. It's like, be careful what you wish for type situation because we are big fans of backup quarterbacks. They basically just made an entire league out of all backup quarterbacks, which

I mean, watching Christian Hackenburg play is still fun. So that's where I like, I legitimately got like a moved a little bit when I saw the halftime graphic pop up. It was a Christian Hackenburg three for 12, 20 yards and an interception. So that's where it started to like, I started to take a little cold, cold shower on the whole thing. I got swept up on Saturday night. I think they, they, they nailed it with the fact that it was on regular CBS. It felt like a regular football game because it was on that station. They had real announcers, you know, you saw Kurt Warner. It really felt like Jeff Fisher on the sidelines. Yeah. Jeff Fisher on the sidelines. I was, I have a little problem with the, the jerseys.

I feel like you need to go less futuristic more, just give me the colors. I know, especially with the logos too. I don't need a bunch of SB nation logos thrown at me. I want just a classic like the, like the Birmingham iron have a very classic look. It's all black. They killed it. Right. And it's a football and it looks like an iron football. That's cool. I get it. The other ones are like, they looked like they took the dude that designed the Washington wizards logo and then like hit him in the head with a shovel and they're like, okay, now you do our logos, right? Make it like really angular and futuristic. Right. It looks like MLS stuff. And I don't know. So, so the opening night was good. It outrated the NBA. Now again, the XFL,

we looked up an article and the XFL had, I found an article that said XFL has enormous huge debut, 10.5 rating or something. So this happened before. This happened to us before. So just be careful. I did love, there's a, when we talked about on Friday, we said, what's going to be great about this league is they will do some things that the NFL will have to adopt. And it's great because this is how you get change. Like if you're upset about the, the saints play in the NFC championship game, the AF is a good thing because they have this guy who's based, they have a woman or a man sitting up there reviewing everything in real time, even if it was not like a, like a flag and it's cool to watch them go through the process and

have the transparency. You know how the NFL says that their standard should be like, if 20 drunk dudes in a bar think it's a catch, then it's a catch. They should actually have just a suite filled with 20, 20 drunk dudes that are just watching the replay and that's the replay system. Yes, absolutely. And if you're hammered, you have to blow above a 0.08 to get access to the fan suite. And then at that point you have like little buzzers. And so they just kind of take the temperature of the room that way. I have a couple of ideas for maybe how we could spice it up a little bit, how we can make this really pop. So the new XFL, it sounds like they're going away from what the old XFL did the best, which was like just crazy like stunts, like the, the kickoff

instead of having a coin flip, have them just like chase down a loose ball. Now they're just getting an old dude to just place the ball. Yes. The no kneeling or it's the, yeah, the no kneeling league is basically why McMahon decided to start this league. Correct. One of these leagues should absolutely have like old school professional wrestlers, like one wrestler on each team. Okay. Like if that plays full back or like Goldberg should be a fullback on one of these things. That's idea number one. Idea number two, get Mike Kerry to actually do all the replay reviews. Because if you weren't around for Mike Kerry's electric white weight, like was he there for two full seasons or one

season? I felt like, I felt like 10. It was totally honest. It did. It was amazing just watching how wrong he could be all the time. Yes. Bring him in the booth. That's a lot of fun. I just made one note here. I'm not sure where I was going with this one. Change the San Diego Fleet's name to the San Diego Skeet. And it's just all the Phillip Rivers children. They grow up in the automatically get drafted. They should be, they should be in powder blue uniforms. Yeah, they should actually just, I think it's legal, legal issues. Yeah, but just give us what, our brains aren't that like, we just want the old colors. We want colors that we know. When you throw out a team, the Atlanta legends were purple. I was like, what's going on here? Yeah.

Like is this TCU? No, it's not. If you're going to give me purple, I need to have a sweaty Gary Patterson going through shirts every quarter on the sideline. That's right. It is confusing. Yeah, give me, give me red and black for Atlanta. That's what I know about that. That's what they, that's what they are in my mind's eye. They did suffer now because Mike Vic dropped out the night before the game kind of an old time. The commercials thing is great. I do like the commercial. So that's a great thing that the NFL will have to do. Also, my last note is let's get Bob Wiley involved somehow. Yep. Actually, I want to say this publicly. I want to offer Bob Wiley a job as an intern on part of my take. Yes. Like we will pay you to be our intern slash pilot slash

magician slash magician. So yes, you will be our personal motivator. Yeah, personal pilot, Bob, if you want to join. So overall, I thought the AF was okay. I'm not going to, I'm not going to fall for it. I'm not going to let myself, I'm not going to give my heart away to it because I know when March Madness starts, I just won't pay attention as much. But in terms of it passes the test of if I'm sitting at home and nothing else is on and oh yeah, I do have three TVs in my living room. That's not a brag. That's just a fact. I probably would put it on one of them. It is football. It passes that test. It is football. It's like a hair of the dog. So we're all hung over from the Super Bowl. It's a flavor timing. It's like a little Bloody Mary worth of football

to just kind of ease me into pictures and catchers reporting because that would just shock my system if that happened right now. Well, so they actually should do what would be great is if they did the schedule. January, they played weeknights like Max. Yeah. So January, they play weeknights because we're all coming down off that bowl high and we need football and you have the playoffs on the weekend. Then when you get to February, you can play the remainder of your season so that the Super Bowl of the AAF ends right before March Madness begins because I'm just being totally honest. I love football, but I will not like I just there are certain points in the year of sports that I just won't choose a minor league football team where the quarterbacks suck over what I

usually watch. Be careful about Hackenburg though. He doesn't suck. He's so bad. He's perfect. Christian Hackenburg is the perfect player. Trent Richardson is truly back. He's got 23 rushes for 60 yards for 2.6 average and two touchdowns. Wow. That is that is a perfect Trent Richardson stat line right there. So final grade on AAF opening weekend. I give it a yeah, I was going to say like a B minus. It's I'm interested. Like it's a curiosity thing. I'm sniffing it right now. If I'm a dog and the AAF sticks his hand out to me, I'm sniffing it. I'm still not sure what to make out of you just yet. Maybe you have some sausages deep inside your pocket somewhere. So I'm going to hang around. If I had plans the next two weekends,

it took me away from TVs, which I don't. I would probably forget the AAF exists. That's where I'm at with it. We'll get our AAF fantasy football commissioner, Mike Florio on the show and talk to him about his team. Also, I love hearing the huddles and the coaches, especially when Spurrier was bitching out people. Yeah, that was it was that was Spurrier. So that needs to be in the NFL. One thing that we learned is that Mike Singletary might not be a good head coach. Oh, yeah, true that did not see that coming. And Mike March is still very fat. And I'm not mad that he traded Greg Olson and got you a color killed, but I will say that he's fat. Yes, that's just he is unbiased take by me. Here's one gripe that I have with the league. The coaches

are smiling too much on the sidelines. Give me more screaming. I don't like Singletary. No, he was smiling. He was getting shut out. He was smiling when he when a call didn't get overturned that should have been overturned. He was like, Oh, come on, man. That's okay. Yeah, I need us. You know what I need is a skycam that falls around Singletary's asshole during halftime to show me how bad his team is playing. Yeah. So when he wipes and shows everyone, maybe give Vernon Davis out there. He's in the league. Yeah. Fuck. Okay. All right. So yeah. Don't just everyone just cool down. That's all I'm asking. Just get ready to judge it. We're in an emotionally fragile state. Football just ended. You want football. I know it. I'm in the same

state. I watch every second of the AAF this weekend. Just just be careful because I don't want to see anyone get hurt and I feel like we're getting hurt. I feel like people who run around for the first XFL don't realize that this will hurt when it when it either goes away or just gets never gets better. Yes. That's that's where I'm concerned. All right. Let's do our who's back and then we'll do JJ Watt. Whom's back of the week? Big Cat, you want to go first? No, let's have Hank go first. Let's have Hank go first. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like Hank to go first. All right. My who's back. I have a few. My first one is the Boston Bruins. Oh, good. So Boston Boston teams winning or back big four point weekend. They won three out of four things are going great in Boston.

Okay. Good. Good for them. My other who's back. Did you watch all the games? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Who's scored? Patrice Bergeron scored his thousandth goal point. Did you see last week their enforcer got in a fight and just beat the shit out of somebody on his first night, his very first game and then his his parents were in the stands and they were so pumped to see their kid beat the shit out of somebody else. Yes. And they tried to give each other a high five and they both whipped entirely. Yes. Their son has the best hand-eye coordination of all time. Yes. And they can't even make contact. Yeah. It's like you got your jeans from the milkman. They were so that's not your dad. They were so excited to watch their son beat the fuck out of someone. Yes. Great

parenting. I love it. Oh, we're doing Gatorade pass for at first AF wins. It's a it's history. Okay. Hey, wait, here's a trivia question. Everybody listened to me right now because there's going to be a slumdog millionaire moment that comes up in your life where you're going to be asked who scored the first points in the history of the alliance. And so pay special attention. I think it was Koo. Koo who's Koo. It's Koo. It's Koo. Jarger's kicker. Young Way Koo. Oh, that was the last thing. The fact that the kickers are just all better than Cody Park. He probably adds a little bit to me. That's stings a little bit. But just feel free to thank me later when that is a It's a trivia question you get right. Yes, I'm out who's back of the week is McGregor vs. Diaz

So after the UFC fight this weekend Anderson Silva said he would fight Nick Diaz in a rematch and then McGregor Responded to a tweet and he said I'll fight Nate Diaz on the same card. Whoa. Mmm. So potentially in Brazil Nick Nate Diaz vs. McGregor Nick Diaz vs. Anderson Silva. That's gonna get very confusing. Let's go. Yeah Yeah, we'll know this NDS The the silver fight was something else. Yeah, just two guys doing spinning kicks at each other the entire time Capoeira capoeira dense fight. I don't even know if that's what it is. All right. P. F. T. What do you got? My who's back of the week is crystals. Yeah, that's right So, you know that we're big fans of Devin could juice on this show and his crystal collections

But it looks like the goat has also been using crystals of these PEDs Roger could all probably say they aren't since been Brady for it But Tom Brady got some special stones and healing crystals from his wife So man card his wife's picking our jewelry for him. Yep, but here's the quote I have these special little stones and healing stones and protection stones and she has me wear a necklace and take these drops That she makes I say all these mantras Brady said and I stopped questioning her a long time ago I just shut up and listen at first He thought this is kind of crazy, but it worked and after four years ago

We were playing the Seahawks and she said you better listen to me This is our year But all the things you're gonna have to do to win and I did all those things and by God it worked So he was wearing like little little Energy stones how many things so because Tom Brady's so successful and won so many Super Bowls How many things do you like little things like this? Do you think he does in a day-to-day basis where he's like? Well, it's helped me get to where I'm at Yeah, he's basically stuck in the most superstitious life of all time

It is like when you watch a game and you you know like maybe sit upside down for a minute your team starts doing well Then you're stuck upside down He's permanently stuck upside down because he keeps winning Super Bowls So he's like, oh well if I just rub this crystal on my dick every morning. I'll win another Super Bowl and boom It happens probably a lot of stuff like that Yeah, I imagine that after he won this the first Super Bowl He just wrote down everything that he ate that day and that's why he doesn't eat anything like he can't eat strawberries Can eat tomatoes. Yeah, he basically just is a Wade Boggs version in football

Yeah, Wade would just eat the same six chicken dishes every single day So yeah, he has like his one meal is one thing that he does he puts on his shoes a specific way He basically just has to live life with OCD knowing that it will end up being another Super Bowl for him He's just like not a bad trade, but probably this is how you end up getting addicted to crystals This is how you get addicted to yeah, you think that everything that you do is perfect So you just don't want to fuck but it is for Tom Brady. That's the crazy part is like all of us normal people Whatever we do Eventually your luck will run out Tom Brady, whatever he does. He just keeps winning Super Bowl

So he's just got to keep like he's gonna have all the crystals in the world. That sucks We got it. We got to stop him before he gets all the crystals. Yes. He's a prisoner of his own success So he's wearing the electromagnetic magnetic undershirts. He's hoarding crystals. Yeah I mean, it's tough for us to judge this because we are well-known junk science guys. So Yeah, keep keep doing it. I guess yeah, he's clearly works. He's drinking water for concussions. Mm-hmm. That's true He will end to avoid sunburns to correct So my other who's back of the week is Steve Spurrier Not just because he won his opening game, which he's done at his last six stops by the way

He's he always blows out teams in his first games But because he was also talking a little shit. Yeah, so they asked him about the game He put up 40 points to think and he goes You know, I tend to win my first game everywhere I go including in Washington for the Redskins and that's not easy to do in that city So like he had to give it like a little roast a little bit and that's that's classic spur I love that man. By the way, that was another thing I wrote down about the Alliance having to fix things The fact they don't have spur in a visor is insane

Well, the so the issue was that with that was that it was raining. So we had to wear the hat Oh, so to protect the quaff. Got it. He's gonna be in a bottle He should be a shirtless in a visor just making that same that same body motion that Jim Harbaugh makes when he's playing shirtless Yes, we need we need the old ball coach and a visor can't have it without it Um, all right, what if Spurrier was just straight up tatted up underneath his got the business Yeah, Kevin Durant just like Jailhouse Spurrier. I like it. I could see it. Yeah, me too. He has a little limp, too I'm worried about him. He's fine. It's just his it's his pimple off. He should be on a scooter He should coach with a scooter. I think a golf cart that was having drive up and down the sidelines on the golf also

Charlie Weiss. Yeah, Charlie Weiss should be a coach. I just put him on the field somewhere. Oh, okay Here's what they really should do. So I got AF awesome is they should have a heavyweight conference It's like Charlie Weiss, Mark Ranjino Romeo Cronell like just go, you know, I don't know who else we got there Bob Wiley Bob Wiley Yeah, just all all big boys coaching and just have that be the coaches for one side. I do like that conference of chalk Yeah, the chonk fronts. Yes. I like that. Maybe that's a whole new league. Yeah, fat football coaches that football Yeah, and then the lot we just do everything reverse the linemen have to be Under 200 pounds and the quarterbacks have to be over 300 pounds Jared Lorenzen MVP. Yes automatic. Yes

All right, my who's back. I got to Bill Walton is back. Did you guys see him eat that cupcake with a lit candle? No? Yes, so I thought it was a doobie Well, Dave Pash said you won't eat that with you won't eat that lit and he just put the whole thing in his mouth He extinguished it with his mind extinguish it with his so cool and it's just like he also didn't really know the happy birthday song Which was hilarious. Oh, really? Yeah, he's just I mean, it's all one song. So but he Bill Walton I feel like we had pack 12 is not great basketball this year very down year So I think we're gonna get Bill Walton taking it to a different level. He's basically has to put the entire conference on his shoulders I don't know what else he could do besides like he's eating fire on the air, right? Where do you go from there?

No, where you gotta save. Yeah. Yeah swallowing swords. Yes. He's got swallows swords Maybe some snake play. Oh on the side. Yeah eating a snake. I wouldn't I mean Would you be shocked if Bill Walton just dropped a live snake and Dave Pash's? Lap during a broadcast not at all. No not one and what would be really cool is if he wore a snake as a belt Yeah, like a live snake. Yes, I just had it bite its own tail. Very cool Okay, it's me bill with two L's and a big snake Alright, my other who's back is Netflix crime documentaries which really has never left, but they had the Ted Bundy tapes that came out

maybe a week or two ago wild and This one I watched last night that I was telling you about and Hank actually watch as well abducted in plain sight do it whatever you're doing right now drop everything and watch abducted in plain sight because it is Let's just say it's the most jaw-dropping documentary I've ever watched not like a good It wasn't one of those documentaries you come across being like man. I'm really thinking about it. It was awesome It's just I just said what the fuck probably about 15 times. Just what the fuck is that disturbing? Okay, no spoilers. Don't spoil it, but at least tell me what it's about. Well, yeah, so it's a pedophile who basically I'm spoiler. Don't listen to this next part. I just wanted okay fine. No spoilers. No spoilers. Just watch it

Just watch it. Everyone watch it in a week. We'll talk about it. Okay. Okay. We're gonna give out homework next Monday Let's talk about it. We'll talk about at the end of next Monday's show We'll do a review of it because it is that it's Let's just say there's a meme in it that that ups the firefest dick-sucking guy. Okay. Well, I'm interested once you It's a tired Okay, yeah, and the wired is this guy Now with are we woke on this like we were about bird box being a movie for the I don't know how this story

We did fuck up by not realizing that the fire festival guy. That was fake. Yes. That was set up for marketing. Yes, really That was a fuck it was a fuck cherry guys They're like what what because when you watch the fire festival everyone was like, why did they put that scene there? It made no sense. It wasn't relevant to the story think about it They knew that it's very relevant to the story. He was gonna suck dick for a piece of heavy Put it this way. Yeah, but he would have Hank the guys who create memes early steel memes They basically put a meme inside their Documentary so everyone would talk about it the cock cherry guys. Yeah. Yeah, I mean Hank's right like we got we all got fucked

We all got cocked. That's fine. I'll get fucked in the name of a good meme This one is a true story and it is why well, let's rewind here. Is this viral? Do you think that the guy did the abductions because it was gonna be a sick meme later? No Yeah It's gonna love this one in 40 years No, watch it. Okay, everyone watch this. Yeah, probably wouldn't be making these jokes if I'd seen it correct. That's an ignorant to it Oh, I know you wouldn't be making these jokes. Okay, okay?

But yeah, abducted in plain sight everyone watch it. We're gonna talk about it next Monday Okay, let's do J.J. Watt. So first time we had JJ Watt. It was probably the biggest moment in part of my take history up to that point. Is that fair to say? I think it's fair to say, yeah, we raised like, what, $70,000? $69,000. $69,000 for charity in order to convince JJ

to let us interview him and stop being internet terrorist to him. And it was an okay interview. Well, here's- I think we were like feeling each other out for a while. He was like, I'm not sure if I like these assholes. We're like, we're not sure if we like this nerd. But I guess the relationships improved a bunch

in the last year and I actually like JJ Watt now. Well, so that was a classic case of, I think we both weren't ready. JJ Watt had not fully embraced that some of the things he did were cringy and we had not fully embraced that one, you can't hype up something to the max. We actually have learned that. We always tell ourselves, like if we do a big interview,

not to hype it to the point where everyone, the expectations get insane. We've learned that lesson. And two, I don't think we were ready to embrace JJ Watt either. Like we were, it was still a joke to us. Now it's like, Hey, this guy is actually, he's kind of, he's good.

He's cool. He's a good guy. At that point, he was still the guy that, you know, you'd always say like, JJ Watt gets it. You hear, you know, all the, now just break this guy gets it. And he had reached the point where he got it too much. Right.

And now he actually gets it. Now he actually gets it. He naturally gets it. Yes. And we naturally get it with him. He gets it to us. So let's get it on. Yeah.

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Can we say friend? I think we can. Okay, it is J.J. Watt. Best friend, J.J. Watt. In New York City. It's great to have you back on. Great to have microphones this time so everyone can not yell at us, which was our fault.

Yeah, no, hopefully they can hear us this time. Fun little story. When we interviewed you in your gym in Wisconsin, we hired some outside people to do the audio and the video and one of the guys brought home his computer and his kid went on the computer or they transferred files and he just watched the whole thing

and then DMed us and was like, hey, I have all the J.J. Watt footage. And we're like, can you not release that please? So it was a clusterfuck from start to finish but it's good to have you here. It's good to have you in the office. Where do we wanna start? You wanna start with football?

We can start wherever you'd like to start, Kat. All right, let's start with football. Good year for the Texans. Good, not great. Good, not great. I like that attitude. I like that a lot. So where, like you're not getting younger,

obviously none of us are, but you're about to be 30. It's a hot take. Yeah, it is a hot take. About to be 30, you guys are, the Texans feel like that team that's always kind of flirting with it. Right.

Like, is it get harder every year when you get bounced from that first Saturday playoff game that you always play? Well, I think with the type of team that we have now and obviously, I mean, you have a quarterback and when you come into a season and you have a guy who you know is gonna be the quarterback, you have a whole off season to work with him

and the type of talent that we have, I mean, Hop is an unbelievable receiver. You got Lamar Miller in the backfield, the defensive guys that we have. You have a chance to build on that chemistry that we worked on and obviously it didn't end the way we wanted it to, but the nine game winning streak

and learning from an 0-1-3 start and coming back and winning games. We have some young guys and so in our quarterbacks, the young guys, so to be able to go through that season and some of the ups and downs and to have such a tough ending like that, it makes you hungry to go back in there and work and I think that that's gonna help us this off season.

Is it weird having a good quarterback? Like, do you miss a little bit of that element of, hey, we got Tom Savage, I'm gonna have to train extra hard this off season? You know, it's crazy. I mean, we went through so many over the years and so many of them great guys. Like, you love having them in the locker room.

TJ8s, you need some help. Love them. I mean, we had the one year we had Jake DeLome and we had Jeff Garcia. Yeah, it moved. That's his latest move when you just said those words. I mean, it was insane and they were awesome guys. We were joking around for their birthday one year.

I think it was Jeff Garcia's like 40th birthday and we bought him a walker and it was hilarious. But then you're also like, that guy's gonna step out there for quarterback at us and to have a guy like the Sean who you know is gonna go out there and perform and you know what he's capable of doing, it is really nice and it's fun to sit on the bench

as a defensive player and watch it knowing that every single drive you have a chance to go on a score. So you practice against him. Is he as elusive as he looks on the field? Like, are you like, no, I got this. He's very elusive. He's very elusive,

but he also, I think he's a good pocket passer. I think that that's one thing that, you know, people, when you think of him, you immediately think of a guy that can move around and get away from pressure, but he is good in the pocket, but I'd never get to get close enough. Yeah, yeah, Big Cat's not a football,

he does understand that you go against the scout team. You can touch him. Yeah, you can touch him. You can touch him. No, we're talking about camp. I played last scout team pullback back in my day. What motivated you more? So I, well, no, I know what motivated you more,

but is there a little small part of you that was motivated by the fact I would have to cut off my pinky if you won the Super Bowl? Once I heard about it, I did start doing extra reps in the way around. I did stay after practice a little bit. Would you have watched?

Would you have come? I offered it to you. I would have been there. Yes, I said you could have cut it off. I would have been there. It would have been great. I don't know if I could have stomach to cutting it off myself,

but I definitely would have watched. Well, and I also would have just sued you. Right away. I mean, brilliant. I mean, brilliant. Super Bowl check gone. Yeah, there you go. That would have been.

Would you have legitimately followed through? Yes, 100%. How much of it would have gone? From the tip up. And now I'm going to have to do it every year. I'm going to have to pick a team. So I picked it when you guys were Owen. I think you picked it when you were like two and three.

No, no, what happened was, so we put the Dunshane on your team. You probably were aware of our famous Dunshane. Everybody talks about it. When you guys were Owen three, we hung that necklace around your neck and said the Texans, they're not winning. They're not doing anything this year.

We counted you guys out. Amongst many other pundits, I think. Correct. We wrote you guys off and then after you went on a little run, I was like, I think we got to reconsider the Dunshane and maybe take the necklace off him. And Big Cat was like, they're not doing shit.

If they win the Super Bowl, I'll cut my pinky off. And then it was a record scratch moment. We were like, wait, did you just say that? And once you say something like that on this show, like we're all in. Like there's no turning back from that. I would have. He would have.

It would have been a great content moment. I mean, can you imagine the viewership? Yes. Well, I would have sold so many ads. You've got to pay for viewed it. Yeah. I would have sold ads, like mini ads on the tip of my pinky and had to zoom in.

And as it gets cut, it's like brought to you by 1,800. You may want to consider doing it just for the content. I need, I need you to win. Maybe it's, no, I'm going to do you stick with us every year. I mean, hey, I mean, come on. I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop.

Do you know Tim Tebow? I mean, acquaintances. Yeah, it's not like. Our thought was that he could come in and circumcise Big Cat's pinky. Just cut the tip off. He's got experience. I mean, if you want to make that phone call.

I mean, he has, yeah, he's been out. He's been in the trenches. Yeah, for sure. So, I mean, I guess maybe I will do, I'm not going to do it right now, but maybe next year I'll give you that extra motivation again and be like, you can cut off my pinky or watching me cut off my pinky.

Cause what better, what better Superbowl, like you win the Superbowl, you're, you know, you reach the highest height and then you get to watch your number one Twitter, Twitter troll cut off a piece of his finger. Oh yeah. Piece to the pinky. That's the hashtag.

So last time we spoke, we were probably, you probably thought we were huge assholes. Oh yeah. Twitter trolls and things were, things were a little dicey online with the Hey JJ stuff for a while, which kind of died down after you sat down and talked to us. But to be fair, you've kind of,

you've kind of moved past what you were doing in the past too with some of the cringy stuff, the extra medium shirts, all that stuff, the Fort Minor, all that. How big of, how much credit should we get for improving you as a person? Because I noticed that you didn't win Walter Payton Man of the Year until we visited you. Right, right, right.

No, I think it's fair. You know, I think that sometimes, obviously I think it, there may be of times it was over the top with the Hey JJ, all that stuff, but I also think that there is something to, I mean, there are, sometimes people have to call you on your shit, I mean, it's fair. And I think that if you're not able to sit there

and look at yourself and really kind of take inventory of what you've been doing and what you might need to change and things like that. So I do think I'm a different person from that back then. I don't know if it was all because of that, but I do think that it played a part in it for sure. But I'm always trying to grow. I mean, I'm still gonna, I guarantee

that I make more mistakes going forward, but. We're just, you're like, we're actually your best friends. You know, we're the friend group that's like, hey, we're gonna call you out on your shit. You're the people that say, hey, there's broccoli in your teeth. Right, yeah, exactly, exactly. No, but you, we were probably a little too harsh.

It was you, the great part about that whole interaction, how it ended is that you also proved that as soon as we, I think we walked away being like, don't meet the guys that you troll online because you find out they're great people. Like you actually are a great guy and it was fun to meet you and be like, oh shit, maybe we should like pump the brakes.

And you also going forward, I think helped us with future guests being like, yo, if you come on, it kind of takes the air out of the joke and it just makes it a relationship. You know what I mean? It goes from this like adversarial thing to like, hey, we're just friends now. Yeah, and obviously it was incredible for me to witness

what the listeners did with the raising the money and everything. I mean, that was insane. Shout out award-winning listeners. That was pretty cool. We didn't think that it was gonna blow up like that as soon as it did. And we were talking before we started recording,

you still have that check. I do. I still have the check. It's still on the gym. I mean, what do you want me to do? You should try to take it to a bank. I feel like most banks in Wisconsin would be polite enough and be like, okay.

What was that? It was like plastic. It was cardboard. We did it at a, we did it actually at your favorite... Q-Doba. Q-Doba. We did it at the Q-Doba.

They were like, oh yeah, Jay-Jay comes in here all the time. I'm like, well, can we move all these tables and write this huge check for him? But yeah, that was kind of a dick move by us. We gave you the check that you can't even throw out. Because it's so big. It basically would like be a hazardous thing to the environment if you threw that thing out.

It would be. I literally have no idea what I'm gonna do with that thing. It's so big. It's there. So enough of the lovey-dovey stuff. Would you like to care to address the fact that you've regressed as a tight end? Yeah, I haven't thought about it in a while.

I really have, haven't I? My touchdown numbers are way down. Way down. I tried to draft you in fantasy last year. And I could even draft you. Damn. What's that? Is that the playbook or is that you just not

wanting to contribute on offense? You know, I haven't been practicing it. Really? I really gotta get back in the gym. I was just wanting to play defensive end so bad this year I completely forgot I was a tight end. Yeah. I just wanted to play football.

Is it partially Vrables not there anymore? So you're not like trying to show him that you're better at catching touchdowns than he was? No, because now that you say it, like it would be awesome to catch one against him. Yeah. You should do that. Yeah.

Yeah. You should do that. I'm gonna get back there. I'll start catching some balls again. I'll start running my two yard routes, fades in the end zone. I gotta get working with Deshaun. I don't think I've ever caught it fade from Deshaun.

Now that you say it. What is this? When was the last time you had a fully healthy off season? 2014, the end of the 2014 year. That's crazy. Yeah, because as soon as 2015 ended, I mean, there was the whole second half of the 2015 season was insane.

Just trying to get week to week there was wild. So the 2015 season on, I haven't had it fully healthy. That's nuts. Well, congrats. I'm so excited. Yeah, I know. You're 100% right now. Yeah, so I had a scope a couple of weeks ago

and on Monday is when I've been working out for a couple of weeks, but you can't fully work out immediately after a scope. So on Monday, I'm in full go workouts. So you'll be back on Instagram. We can see the videos. As you've noticed, as you guys have noticed, the videos are down.

There's also not, there's no more 61 inch box jumps to show. I mean, the thing that happens when you get older in the league is you have to change your workouts. So I mean, unless you guys want to see some like TheraBand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Have you been doing it water aerobics in the past nine years?

How much have you noticed like the, you know, age and being in the league for so long? How much has that changed where your workouts and maybe not losing a step, but having to do things differently? Yeah, so you completely change your philosophy, but you don't change the intensity. So like I still work out just as hard

and with as much energy and probably the same amount of time, but it's just, I'm not necessarily back squatting 425 for sets of five. I'm doing a belt squat where it doesn't put as much pressure on my back. I'm doing a prouder push where I get, you know, just alleviate some of the situations where you're putting yourself in a bad spot.

Tons and tons of core work to make sure that my core is locked. I hear that. No big year of the core. I saw your post. I saw your post. I am. You're working hard on it. I am.

I'm working hard on my core. Ronaldo in no time. Core is important. It's extremely important. It's the most important. That's what they say. Yeah. Everything attaches to your core.

Exactly. It all is connected to the core. How much do you bench? I need one with machines. I got it. I haven't used it since that day. So you can have it. The electoral one?

Just because you only used it one time doesn't mean it's still sanitary. Yeah, that's true. That is actually very important. I mean, he's got a big belly button. You don't know what lives inside of there. Whatever sucked out of there is probably pretty disgusting. But yeah, how much do you bench?

Right now, if I had to bench. Oh, I noticed so you don't bench. Right now? Yeah, but I'm not in like a full bench. So last off season, I actually did one of the most, one of the most, the thing that I felt the best doing. I did 340 for 16 last off season. Not that much.

Which was, that was pretty, that was good. I was excited about that one. Mark Schlerz's dad benches more than that. That's 340, 16 reps? Yeah, it was pretty, I was excited about that one. Yeah, I would be too. Cause I didn't, like, I haven't done like a 225 type test since the combine.

I mean, there's no reason to do it. Other than the combine, obviously. So we worked our way up in the weight room last year in the off season and we'd had a day where they said, okay, this is your weight, just see how many you can get. And my weight was 340 and so it was awesome. So I asked guys who come in here who are like super fast, how cool is it to be fast?

How cool is it to just be like, I could lift anything? Like see that rock over there? I can lift it. It doesn't really have any perks. It doesn't, I mean, the only thing it has is like, people expect you to do stuff if you need help. Like do you help me move? It's like a guy with a pickup truck.

Everybody calls you. It's true. Yeah, same thing with reach and tall things on shelves. Like people are like, hey, go get stuff on shelves. I don't believe you. I feel like it's probably still gotta be pretty cool. Like just pick up a little shit. I don't know.

But when you actually lift, like being fast, it's like we were at a Gatorade during the other night and Usain Bolt was there and we were talking about that, about how people always challenge him to race. He's like, people always challenge me to a race. But I mean, I'm not, I have to stretch. He's like, I can't just race you out of the gate. He's like, I have to stretch and stuff.

But then I saw him the next day and he did that 4-2-2 in regular shoes. Yeah, regular shoes. And I was like, we just talked about this last night and then you ran out of 4-2-2. That's insane. The guy's unbelievable. I think with you, you get used to being able

to pick stuff up so you don't really appreciate when you're doing cool stuff around the house that maybe other people do. I agree. What's the heaviest thing that you've tried to pick up later that you were like, damn, I wish I was stronger? Probably, I squatted 450 pounds the other day. That was probably the heaviest thing that I've picked up.

I didn't use a belt though, because I'm a man. But yeah, just for a squat. The heaviest thing I picked up, I don't know. Probably like all my fears every morning when I wake up. Here we go. Let's do it again. I had a pretty big burger the other day. Here you go.

It was three patties. And so that was like, I wish I was bigger. Oh, how much cheat days you up to? It's a little bit different. So man, this is tough. Okay. So part of the thing with my knee is that obviously you want to keep as much inflammation as you can.

And so I was talking to our nutritionist last week and he was like, you know, if you really want to try and keep your inflammation as low as possible, he goes, you should go on a gluten-free, dairy-free diet. I said, I said, bro, I'm from Wisconsin. I'm 290, like gluten-free, dairy-free. What the hell am I going to eat? Yeah, just meat.

It's just like rice and chicken and avocados. And so, so I tried it for a week and a half before I came to New York. Cause I knew when I'm in New York, I was like, I'm going to have some pizza. I was going to have some bagels. Like I wanted to eat that stuff. When I'm at my house, I can do it.

Like I can, you can plan, I can plan enough meals. But when you go out in the world, I mean, I'm not going to be that guy at the dinner table. That's like, do you have a gluten-free, dairy-free menu? Right. Like I'm just, I'm not. So it's very tough, but. Did you notice a difference though?

It was too short to really notice a difference, but the gluten-free, I could definitely tell it. I had like more energy throughout the day, which was interesting. Interesting. The dairy-free I think needs a longer time to settle in. I mean, I'm from Wisconsin, man. Yeah, you can't.

Like a glass of milk with dinner is like almost standard. How much weight do you think you're going to gain when you retire? I don't want to lose weight. I think I'll lose. I think I'll lose weight. Really? Because when I have my first back surgery,

the treatment is to walk 12 miles a day. Or actually my second back surgery. The treatment is just to walk. So you can't do anything but walk. Did you do little weights? No, nothing. I just felt, I mean, I was just walking on the side of the road back in Wisconsin.

And I dropped all the way down. I started at 290. I dropped all the way down to 266. In the course of like two months. Because I don't necessarily love eating as much as I do. I know I have to. So it's much more now of just eating to keep the weight on and keep the muscle on.

But when I'm done, I'll probably eat three regular meals a day and not get crazy with it. You'll probably drink more beer though. Probably, no doubt. Wine is though good for the inflammation. That's what they say. Wine baths. I love a good Guinness though.

I mean, I'm a huge Guinness guy. Once I went over to Ireland and had a Guinness, I was hooked. The Guinness they have at that factory, I think it's like, they do something to it. It makes it better. So then you just want Guinness for the rest of your life. I don't disagree with that. It's not, like I've been to that place

and I've had that pint and it's not, it's the greatest beer on earth. That one single pint up at the top. And they fuck with your head forever. Yes, 100%. If you tell somebody to try Guinness here, they'll be like, God, it's good. But if you tell somebody to try Guinness there,

they're like, Guinness is awesome. Right, I'd say the entire country of Ireland. It just, it does taste different over there. It's something different. I don't know if I'm remembering this wrong, but they said not a single keg in any pub in Guinness, or in Ireland, is more than seven days old, which would be incredible.

I believe that because they drink it so fast. They have to fly through it. Yes, I believe that big time. Big time. I will, going off your nutrition thing, I read something earlier today that Brian Cushing is getting hired by the Texans to be strength and conditioning. Is he gonna be like the head guy or assistant or what?

He's an assistant. Is that gonna be weird for you having like your old teammate trying to coach you up on stuff? No, I mean, he's obviously, he loves the way he's got a ton of knowledge in there, so he knows what he's doing. He loves the game, and he was a successful player for such a long time,

so I don't think it'll be that weird. I'm sure we'll crack some jokes here and there, but no, it should be all right. Don't drink Starbucks around him. That's right, yeah. Yeah, there's girls like that. How much did you hate, did you hate hard knocks? Yeah.

But you were also the star. It also came at a time that wasn't. That was peak JJ. Yeah, it was. It is one of those things where you look back and you're like, man, if I did that today, I would do it a lot differently. Yeah.

I'm happy that you did it, so I hope that forever. Yeah. I mean, it is just, it is such, they're around 24 seven, you know? And I mean, so like, I don't care how normal you say you're gonna act, I don't care how, like every single time you turn around and you see a camera or microphone,

nobody, you cannot physically act completely normal all the time, it's just hard. We have it here. I mean, we get filmed all the time and it does, there's many times where it's like, this sucks. Right, because you're, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, no, but I look back at that and there's definitely some things where I'm like,

dude, I mean, come on. The tire flips, we're good. I like the tire flips. Do you still listen to Fort Minor? It comes on every now and then, but no, I wouldn't say it's in the regular rotation. Okay. What's the regular rotation?

When it comes on, I think of you guys every single time. Yeah, I mean, it's over. What do you want me to do? Like 10% off, fuck, you know, jeez. That's so good. That's so good. All right, can we talk about Wisconsin commencement?

Yeah, absolutely. So you were just named the commencement speaker at the University of Wisconsin, our alma mater. Did you graduate? Nope. So my alma mater, you were a dropout for a good reason. So that's my dream. That's like, I was telling these guys before,

that's my, if I ever make it, make it, it would be like, hey, come do the Wisconsin commencement. I don't think it will ever happen. I had to like beg on Twitter for them to send me some fucking free gear, so for the football team. So I think I'm very, many steps away. Are you excited, nervous? I'm excited.

I'm really excited. You know, I was, every person I've talked to since they announced it just a couple of days ago has said, you should just be completely free because I don't remember who was my commencement speaker. Right. We said that, we had that conversation on the elevator.

So it's like, I honestly, I'm gonna try and make it great. I'm gonna try and make it incredible. But at the end of the day, everybody there is just thinking about how quickly can we get out of here. Graduation is, we're hot in our outfit. We wanna get to the drinks. Like we wanna celebrate art. So I'm like, I don't know.

Do you know how you can make it incredible? Give everybody beer. Well, or stone cold music. Big Cat comes out, tag team. So if you got the call, let's say you got the call next year. Yeah. What is your plan? I'd swear a lot.

They'll love you if you cuss. Yeah, I'd swear a lot. Or you know, people would be like, what? Cause then you remember it. Yeah, you can be remembered. There is a way to be remembered. I don't know, I'd probably, I, it's weird. Because your thing is being funny.

Yeah, that's a tough question. So are you gonna speak to people? No, I'm trying to be honest. Because I'm trying to be like, hey, look, like college is fun, but it really doesn't matter. Right. Kind of thing, that kind of thing. Like, hey, guess what guys?

Like none of this shit matters. You could tackle Big Cat, like bring him out on stage and it'll be like the Zach Brown concert. That was real, right? I might go, I might go and sit. I might go sit front row. Dude, that guy broke a rib. Did he?

I heard, I heard, yeah. That was insane. That was also peak JJ's on hand. It was. It was. I might, what if I sat front row like, so you have a godfather and yeah, you saw my face and you're like, oh, Jesus Christ.

That's just pretty cool. In your underwear. You're supposed to picture everybody in their underwear. Big Cat will give you a model. He'll just be there, where it'll just appear on me on these. Yes. That'll relax you. I actually have a piece of advice.

You should start out with a joke. Do you wanna hear my favorite joke? Let's hear it. It's, what's the difference between a chickpea and a garbanzo bean? What? Doesn't cost 50 bucks to have a garbanzo bean on my chest. Mm.

Okay. The chickpea got it. Break the ice a little bit. Yeah, that is a good one. I think, actually, the people of Wisconsin would love that one. Yeah. They put in the laughter.

They put in that laughter, yeah. No, I think. So when I'm, I obviously live in Texas now and the Baylor School of Medicine gave me a doctorate degree. Yeah. So I wasn't, I don't wanna put any pressure on the people of Wisconsin. I don't wanna put any pressure at all.

But I'm from Wisconsin. And I'm not even from Texas. And you don't have a degree from Madison. I don't have a degree. So I mean, I'm just saying. You think they'll give you one? I mean, it's pretty easy to get a doctorate degree from Texas.

You just, if you suck rattlesnake poison as somebody's leash, you're like, that's Doc JJ. Yeah. Wait, you need a degree. I mean, it would be cool. Yeah. I mean, I have a doctorate, so I mean. How many credits shy are you?

A lot. I'm gonna like workshop this like, we could get, we could get our listeners to just take some online courses for you. But that seems like, yeah. Okay. So you're going very short. Yeah.

We're pretty far away, guys. I transferred from Central Michigan and not all my stuff transferred. And I went to UW Waukesha for six months because I couldn't transfer immediately. And then I started out in LSC, I think. And then I moved to kinesiology, which is like a billion credits.

Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, I think you're gonna do well. I really shot for the honorary. Right. Like I said, you know, I'm gonna try and get the honorary. You gotta just like put in a bunch of jokes

that are like, you know, very specific to the bars in Madison, then people will love you. That was, my opening line is gonna be something like, guys, I know none of you really care what I'm about to say. It's just a race to the terrace to get spotted count. There you go. So yeah. Or be like, hey, guess what?

In the real world, not every bar has drinks as stiff as Mondays. Something like that. And be like, oh, shit. Right. You can't drown your sorrows in a Wando's fish bowl. Right. Exactly.

Boom, we're good. I feel like I'm there. I think we just wrote it. We did. That whole thing. Yeah, just making about drinking. Just about alcohol. If you wanna win the hearts of a bunch of like,

University of Wisconsin-Madison graduates. It is gigantic. Huge. There's like 50,000 people there. I think I did mine in the Cole Center. I think they do it in the state. Yeah, it's in the state. Somebody sent me a picture of it.

All the graduates are on the field and they take up the whole field and then all the families and everybody earn the stands in the whole lower Bowesfield. Jesus Christ. It's insane. That's big time. You should actually do it in full pads.

That's what you should do. Just come out. That's the only way I know I can't breathe. Yes, do that. Bring the letter and jacket back. Should I just work out? Just do a 30 minute workout. Just box jump on to the stage.

These are all good ideas like that. Like Tony Perkus, the Perkus system. If you've got everyone on their feet. Come on guys. Let's go. Let's go. Bring out Lars. Yes.

Let's do it, man. Just a log over my head. This works. This works. Maybe bring out Bilma. Can you believe he has a Super Bowl ring? No. You see him jogging through the concourse.

That was amazing. You know, I got beers with him. We had him on the show. Really? Yeah. Recently. And I was like, yeah, your wife blocks me. In Atlanta?

It was a couple of years ago here in New York. I think he'd just been fired. And he can put him back. I don't doubt it. I mean, he's a big boy. Yeah. He's an offensive lineman. He played at Iowa and Wisconsin.

It was so funny watching him. He was running down to the field to be in the celebration after the Super Bowl and watching him try to sprint through the concourse and try to evade people and elude people. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He's playing this to me. No, he's going up from.

Because he's up in the booth. He was up in the booth. And so he's making his way down right after the game. And the entire Patriots coaching staff is trying. And they're all out running him. It's like the running of the Bulls. But if all the humans were way faster than the Bulls. Bulls just, man.

Behind everyone. It was just like, oh, come on, guys, how do you do it? Whatever happened, your guy's keto diet. I just thought. Oh, yeah. Our intern put us on that, tweeted out a picture of my dick and my cell phone number. Yeah, and we also just didn't, he didn't.

We hired a 19-year-old who didn't know what keto was. So he would just Google it. He'd just give us food and be like, wait, you can't eat that? So we just. It's so awful all the time. Yeah, it sucks. Have you done it? No.

It's terrible. One of my buddies is trying it now and he has no clue. Keto flu sucks. The best part is when you pee on the strip and then it tells you that you're in keto. That's a good feeling. You guys do it that. We did it for like.

You did it that serious. For like two weeks. Yeah, yeah, that's how the penis picture was put out. I guess it was videotaping. You just eat like pork rinds and it's terrible. Jeez, man. It's gross. Your breath smells bad.

Yeah. Does it include intermittent fasting or not? No, but I want to get into that. Have you done that? No, but a couple of, I know guys. I heard your brain gets really active. There's, I mean, the problem with all these things is just the sustainability of it.

Because like at some point you're going to be in a situation where you can't. Right. You can't do it. Like you have to do something. And I'm like, if you can just make subtle lifestyle changes instead of doing these wholesale changes, I feel like it has to.

That's way too rational. I'd rather just fast for a week. My buddy does all these different diets. Like everyone that comes out, he's like, I'm in, I'm in. And I'm like, you do everyone for two weeks and you're done. He sounds like my friend. Every time you're going to get out of a big of chips, grab an apple.

Like it's not that hard. Just eat healthy and then exercise occasionally. And you'll be OK. That's tough. I'm more on your friend's side. Do you have nutritionists that work for the team or do you have your like Alex Guerrero guy that's like specializing how many avocados need to be injected into you?

No, we have one that works for the team. He just, we got a new guy that came on last year and he has an assistant. Both of them are incredibly smart. They're a lot of fun to talk to. But sometimes it's like that situation where he's so smart and he knows so much. And I'm like, OK, yes, I know if I ate only walnuts for breakfast.

I'd be incredible. But like, you got to work with me. I mean, halfway here, guy. So he's gotten really good at that. And it's been a lot of fun to work with him. But yeah, sometimes nutritionists are just, they have such this perfectionist view of the world where I'm like, you got to at least meet me halfway.

I think it's just because they know so much. So they see like all the, when they look at a piece of food that's not good for you, they're like poison. Whereas we see it and we're like, I want that. And I'm sitting here thinking like, OK, I cut out dairy. Is my shoulder going to swell up truly because I'm drinking a glass of milk? Or like, what my new level of like, you know, like.

Yeah, yeah. I mean. It's true. It gets to a point. Yeah, I think you have the right take on it. I'm sure. I've always wondered, like people in your position, obviously, you're at the top of your game as far as athletes go.

In the off season, how much stuff do you like try to do completely different to like refocus on something new? Or if it's like something nutritional. Like, I wouldn't imagine, even if your nutritionist was like, all right, JJ, we're going on the like strict paleo diet this entire off season. Like you're already pretty fucking good.

Right. So how much do you actually change up off season off season with your training? So like the first thing I do after our season ends, the first three days, it is literally eaten, drink whatever you want. Yes. So it's a blast.

Just three days? Yeah, it's three days. Because you, I mean, you feel. That's like every weekend. Yeah. You think that's what Jesus was doing when he was. So sick. He's just like, I'm just going to gorge.

Yeah, going for it. I'm going for it. So I mean, it is a full sleeves of Oreos. I mean, it is like everything's Guinness is going down. It's everything for three days. It's a fun time to be around. Yes. But waking up is miserable.

But then after those three days, for the first two weeks, I'm still on like a eat pretty healthy, but you know, go out for a burger here, go out for what you want there. After those two weeks are done, you pretty much kind of lock it back in and I pick when I'm going to have fun and when I'm not. So like I try and do a weekend with my buddies every year where we go for like four days.

And that one, I'm like, OK, you can do whatever you want there. But you got to lock in before leading up to that. Like this week with my girlfriend here in New York, eat what you want and enjoy it. But next week, you have to lock in. So you just try and do it where you have to stay sane. Because a lot of it's mental. I mean, a lot of it is you can't just stay boom, boom,

boom the whole time. Otherwise, you're going to go crazy. So you got to give yourself some breaks and it's a good way to do it. Congrats on having a girlfriend, by the way. Hey, thanks, guys. I just think it's bad. No, guys, this is a nice break. It actually, it must be nice dating somebody that is also

like an elite athlete because you guys keep each other and check a little bit. You couldn't date like a whinoe. That's like, I'm going to go, hey, I'm going to be right back in. I got to smoke a cigarette. Watch like drinking Chardonnay at 11 o'clock in the morning. Yeah, yeah. But the crazy thing with her is she has a crazy sweet tooth.

She loves like chocolate chip cookies. She loves desserts. And she has a six pack. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what she eats. So like we went to Levain Bakery today, which is up here in New York. And they got these cookies that are insane. And I'm like, I can't eat that.

She'll eat three of them and have a six pack. And I'm like, but it is fun. I mean, it's competition. It's a blast. And I, I swore I could be a Premier League goalie. I said, I said, when we first started dating and she's a soccer player. So I was like, give me one year to train. I said, let's say it's at the end of my career after I retire, one year to train.

I think I can do it. Hardo's mad. Dude, no, I this story comes back around, hits me in the face. Oh, no. So she, so I was like, she was like, no, you can't. And I was like, yes, just give me a year. I said, I'm athletic. I'm agile.

I can move. I can use my hands just like batting balls. Like right that hard. And so she goes, OK, come to the field. And so we went out to the field. She put it not even on the penalty spot, the 18 yard line, which is like the big box far away. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to stop.

There's no problem. She smoked a ball past my face so fucking fast. And I was like, no chance. Yeah, you can give me five years to train. No chance. It's insane how fast and how hard she can get the ball. And I can only imagine, obviously, what like Ronaldo flying. Yeah, that burst my bubble.

You should still try, though. Yeah, we need to have it be that all of our American athletes can play soccer at the highest level if they wanted to. Because that otherwise we become betas in the war. No, no, no, I agree. So you could still. I still think with training. I own a team.

So I'll just have you be perfect. Oh, they hate me. They want me on Swansea. Oh, yeah. They're not in the Premier League anymore. No, they got knocked out. Yeah. And every now and then they'll just be people on Twitter would be like,

yanks out, fuck you, fat pig. And I was like, what the hell? Like, dude, I own like 0.001 percent of one percent of this happened. What's your team, your Chelsea team? Oh, yeah, man, it's been a struggle year. That's gross, though. It's been a struggle. Well, I mean, I went to a game like six years ago or something.

And I mean, I didn't I didn't know anything about the Premier League back then. And I was like, I want to get into this. It's awesome. And I truly love watching it. Yeah, I wake up every weekend. I love to watch it in the morning. I think part of the reason I love watching is because I don't know a ton about like the logistics of it on everything American sports.

I know how free agency works. I know how like these backdoor conversations, like I know how all the inner workings of it and it kind of screws you up as a fan because you it's hard to get fully into a team because you know how it all goes in the back end. So I'm watching over there. I don't know what the hell these transfer fees are and like that you got to buy it or the right to buy a player. Yeah.

So I just blindly am a fan and I love watching it. I also think that the Premier League, part of the reason why people like watching it and this is at least for me personally, it's very appeasing in the morning on a Saturday or Sunday. The pitch is so green and it just kind of lulls you. It's like almost watching the Masters. It is. It's very like it's a very nice, easy way to start the day.

Like if it was if it was an NFL football game at 8 a.m. Harsh. It's it's even the London game. It's always like, oh, this is a little early. But you get the pitch. You get a nice British accent. You're here. No commercials.

There's a cup of coffee. Take a little nap. Yeah. Wibbledon's kind of the same way. Yes. Like when you see the strawberries and cream. Yeah, it's like everybody's wearing white. Yeah.

It's a nice way to wake up in the morning. It is. And they do a great. I love the coverage. I mean, it's such they do. I love you've been on men and blazers. No, friends with those guys. Yeah, you guys.

Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. I watch. I watch every week. Like I said, I mean, the games are like it's 6 a.m. Sometimes. Yeah.

That's one of my favorite things to do. Wake up, make up a coffee and then just sit there and watch the Premier League. People are going to love this. I like it. JJ Watt, supporter of soccer, even though he's a football player. Yeah, absolutely. We plan London this year, too. Oh, really?

Yeah, first time. We play the Jaguars. Yeah, I knew it. Oh, it's a Jaguar. Should have even asked. What was back to the whole back deal whispers around the room, like how sports work? What were you saying about that?

I don't know. About how players switch teams sometimes circle back on that. You know, like how do things go together? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Do you think you're ever going to get cut? It's it's kind of mean.

I mean, it's just popped in my head. It's a business. We're at that portion of the interview. We're just doing. No, I like questions. I like that. It's definitely possible. Speaking of getting cut, how come you haven't trained

with knives like Aaron Donald? Good question. It's because it's scary. Yeah, yeah. It is. It's wildly dangerous. He actually told us they were fake knives. That's bullshit.

Come on. How many more years do you think you've got? I mean, like that. Like, how come you could you imagine? Could you imagine if I did that four years ago? Oh, we've grossed you. I mean, it would be game over. AJJ knives are actually like cause.

Yeah. Thousands of murders a year. Yeah. Like every every now and then, like on my Instagram Explorer page, I'll see something, whether it's an athlete or not an athlete. And I'll be like, if I did that in 2014 or 2015. Yes, I was.

Yeah, no doubt. But I think that's part of it, too, is like you're when that was kind of during like a come up. Like I was, you know, so as you're on the come up, anything you do becomes a news story. So like they'll pick up anything and it becomes a headline, like my house in Wisconsin, all that stuff in its headlines.

And then it's like you're everywhere and it feels like oversaturation and you kind of do stuff that I was doing. Right. Obviously, I don't wouldn't do now. But it just, it all culminates in like a, OK, this guy's turned into. And the internet, I think was a little meaner. Like the internet shifts.

The internet does weird things. Still pretty mean. It is still pretty mean. Twitter mainly. Twitter's Twitter's. But it all just kind of shifts. I get maybe it's not the internet's meaner. I think people have become more aware of trolls and start

to kind of tune them. Like people now know the playbook on trolls. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Like if you, if you feed them, it gets worse. Right. So you should never have responded to us. We wouldn't be here today.

Yeah, that's true. And we wouldn't be friends. That's correct. How many were years you're going to play? It's a good one. You almost retired. When? When you wrote that letter saying you almost retired.

I said I thought about it. No, remember, but then you saw the kid wearing your jersey and you were like, I'm not going to retire because I wasn't wearing your jersey. You're right. That was kind of, that was almost like the end of. Yes. That was like the start of a transition to.

Yes. Two years away from the game, we'll do that to you, man. Yeah, it was a sappy story. It was good story. Yeah, it was. Was you actually wearing your jersey? Yeah. No, it was real.

I mean, that whole story was real. See, that's the thing. Like even like during that time because of like what I built up, I guess, like even when you're writing something that's a hundred percent real and true and like. It was like, come on. Yeah. It was like, dude, it's really the kids wearing fucking jersey.

I'm like, no, you're like, during that time, I was like, as I was writing this article, I was like, this is so pointless because I'm right. This is a hundred percent true and it's like a legit story, but I'm going to get ripped for it. So like it was, it was hard, man. You should have been like he was wearing a Jadavion clowny jersey.

Yeah. I was like, I got to get back so that this kid will start to wear my jersey. Yes, yes. But I don't know, man. I feel, I feel really good. Like my body feels really good right now. Last season was good just to get back on the field.

To get back playing. I'm going to be honest, if you told me before the season, you're going to have 16 sacks and be an all-pro. I would have said, hell yeah, sign me up. Because I honestly didn't. Is that how many you had? I think you had 17, didn't you? No.

16, 16. But like I would have said, hell yeah, because I, as much as I, as hard as I trained and as much as I did, I still didn't know for sure if it was going to be good or not, you know. And now this off season, my body feels great. I can train the whole off season and I can really build the confidence up that I need to play confidently week to week, not just go out there and be on the field.

I want to play truly special football. That's awesome. That's my goal. Which one of your brothers do your parents love the most? Oh, Derek's having a baby this month. Oh, that's what you mean. That's what I mean, yeah. It's not fair.

That's, yeah. He got married first. He's having a baby. Yeah. He got a dog before any of us. He won that playoff game. He did. Do you see that barrel roll that he did on the,

that was a touchdown. Bullshit. Yes. Such bull, I was, I was screaming at my television because I mean, the guy hasn't had a chance to touch down his whole career playoff game. He is a touchdown. Yes. And I was livid.

But it was kind of cool that they showed like 600 times. So at least he got some. It was the longest replay that I've ever seen. That's true. And seeing it, seeing a fullback do a barrel roll on the goal line was like very, very funny to watch. I've never seen that before. But yeah, he got screwed out of that one.

Yeah. But I gave him credit because it was a hell of a catch. The throw was a little low. So it was a hell of a catch. Rolled in, had the thought process rolled in. But he was, it was funny because the, I was watching the Pro Bowl and it's a Chargers coaching staff and that the chief's fullback was in there. And like people were pulling from for the MVP because they had like six catches.

Yeah, Shermanator. Yeah. And I'm like, where are all these plays from? I was like, Derek's a fullback for the Charles. I haven't seen a single play all year. I'm out in space. I think Sherman wanted the MVP like really badly. I think he had them install specific packages for him.

No, no. By the way, he's on our fullback. We do a fullback of the year award for college football, the low man trophy. Tell Derek that if he wants to be on the committee, we can vote. It's like John Kuhn, Aaron Rypkowski, Vonte Leach. It's a lot of good plays. It's a big deal. I'm surprised you haven't heard about it.

I thought it would be rude to ask about seeing if I'm not a fullback. But I did play fullback one play and score a touchdown in the NFL. That counts. Well, you'd be more proud if you had played fullback and gotten the lead block that led to another man getting a touchdown. That's how I know you're not. You got you. Yeah.

What about TJ? Did you talk to, I mean, they had a crazy season. Did you talk to them throughout being like, hey, man, any advice or? It, it was wild, man. I mean, their season obviously was wild just up and down it, but then everything that happens off the field to me, it's, it's wild up there. Who do you vote for for team MVP? That's the most important question.

I didn't even ask about that, but I like some teams have that and some team. Like it's like, if you think about it, it's a weird thing. It's a very weird thing. You know, and especially get mad about it. Especially to do it like publicly, right? If you want to vote it and tell the guys a lot, but I mean, I don't. What's that for? Yeah, what?

You know, I guess. So you voted for juju. I literally didn't ask him. I'm going to ask you. Yeah, I don't. I honestly don't know if he voted. I don't know if it was it. I don't know how that works.

How often do you talk to your brothers during the season? Oh, we talk every day. Really? We have a group text literally every day. We talk multiple times a day, either, either a phone call or text. You should pop us in that group text every now and then. Just to just fuck shit off. So we're basically family, we're best friends.

Actually, this good point. I want to say this out loud so that we can get this on record. We want to challenge the Watt brothers to a feats of strength. P.F.T. myself and Hank, you're tight. Whenever you want, whenever you're all together in Wisconsin, we'll come take two hours. We'll feats of strength. We'll kind of set up a string like Festivus.

Yeah, kind of like we'll set up maybe like, yeah, yeah. Nothing to get anyone hurt, but like some kind of competition to cattle on something where we can kick the shit out of the Watt brothers. I mean, OK. Yeah, OK, perfect. Yes, we're in. That wasn't a lock-in.

No, you said we'll look into that. You said we'll lock into that. We'll look into that. I said we'll look into that. OK, there is a moment where you all will be together, right? It'll probably be in LA because when Derek has the baby. Oh, us too. We're going to be out there that weekend.

We love it in Alperger. Yeah. Isn't it weird that we're going to be in LA the same weekend? Yeah, the same weekend. Yeah, it's incredible. Yes, that will be. We have to figure out what the kind. I want to do at least some swimming.

I think I beat you in swimming. How far? He's got that pond, bro. Very short. Swimming was another thing that I thought I told myself. The 20 or I think the shortest one is the 50 meter. Yes. At the Olympics.

Yes. Because I start one off season. I was hurt. So I was just sitting on my couch. I was watching like I was like, what sport afterwards could I do where I could try and win a gold medal? Because the Olympics are cool and you obviously can't play football. Right.

So I was like, I always thought that one of the coolest things in the world is standing on the podium with the American flag and everything and winning a gold medal. But I was like, I mean, soccer goalie is one. That was my first go to. And then I was like the 50 meter swim, the one where you don't have to turn. Because I can't turn. Yeah, shit.

The one where you just go straight. And I was like, I got some explosive legs. I could dive off like halfway across the pool. And then I only got to swim halfway. Give me a year to train for that. I like that. Could I do that? You should do curling.

That's hard. Handball. Have you curled? I have, yes. Isn't Jared Allen trying to curl? Yes, yeah, he's actually trying to make the Olympics. Yeah. Yeah, you could do handball.

You'd be a good handball player. Handball would be good. Rugby. Rugby and Olympic sport. Yeah, sevens rugby is. Is it? We're the best in the world. Second best.

I wish we were in the Six Nations. That's one of my favorite things to watch, too. That's from Ireland when I first got over to Ireland. I love watching the Six Nations rugby tournament. If you had dedicated yourself to rugby when you were in high school, you would probably be the best rugby player in the history of the game by far. And the US probably would have won a gold medal.

So would you like to apologize to the United States? I'd like to make my formal apology to the United States Rugby Association, all of the United States people, the entire United States of America. You could have made $50,000 a year playing rugby. We could have been incredible, guys. All 290 of you that would have came. Yes, would have been.

Awesome. All right, so we've got to figure out what competition we're going to swim with a turn. You just screwed yourself there. Are you good at the turn? Can you legitimately do it? Yeah, I can turn. Dude, I drink water like it's nothing.

Oh, I can turn. I can't turn. What are you looking at? We should get your head hank. It will be like that. Hank, have you seen it? You've never seen me turn? Exactly.

Yeah, I can turn, bro. OK. I'll fucking go to a pool right now and turn. I can't even swim without sucking water down. Like, I have to do the thing where your head's above the water and something. Because I can't. You can fly your father.

I know. So we did laps in the Jacksonville Jaguars pool, the one that they have in the stadium. And Big Cat went all the way down underwater, turned, and came back, then turned again. Shut up. And went back. He set the record.

Oh, now I'm screwed. I run into the flip turn, though. Well, it's because it was too shallow. See? Yeah. So this actually is, I have a hypothetical that I've always said I could beat. There's no athlete in the world that

could beat me in every single sport. You couldn't beat me in every single sport. There's one sport I could beat you in. I don't know what it is, but I could find it. I think it might be swimming in turn. If it's longer than a one shot. There we go. Yes, I think.

I have the right to, like, change all the way. Yeah, the rules and everything. Darts is the sport. I just have to beat you. Are you good at it? I'm pretty good. I think I can see. If you watch darts, I love watching darts.

So we'll add darts. That will be one of the competitions. We got to think of. Table tennis. Yeah, I can take you in table tennis. Who has spins? We got one, yeah. We got one in the locker room last year.

And one of our teammates is unbelievable at it. And he taught me a whole bunch of stuff. And so I've mentioned working my way up to being pretty good at it. Who's really good at it? His name is Bruce Ellington. He used to play for the 49ers. He played for us.

Then he was on the Lions this year. He said that they brought in a table in San Francisco. And they brought in a true professional, like one of the guys from the Olympics or whatever. And he was there for two days. And he taught them a whole bunch of stuff. And then he kind of tried to teach me. All right, so we'll do that.

I think I can kick a football farther than any. No way. All right, well, my dad loved to punt as a kid. So he always taught me how to punt. I'm talking kicker. Oh, you're talking kicker? Kicker? Yeah.

Field goals. How far can you go? I can kick a 60 yarder. A field goal? I'm a holder. Yeah. Also non-true. What?

No, I have kicked a 60 yarder. I'll back you up. I'll back you up. Yeah, he's got a fucking sick leg. I kicked a 60 yarder in a rugby game one time. Yeah. Well, with a rugby ball? Yeah.

Well, that's different. Well, I can kick a 60 yard field goal with a football too. High altitude. I actually train with footballs because the sweet spot's smaller on a football than a rugby ball. We'll do that one. Yeah, we'll do a snap. It will be a, we'll do it, we'll time it.

It will be a snap, hold, kick. And you got to make it. Like the thing in Chicago. Yes, so all three of us get in. All three of us. We'll do it. Which team has more degrees? Well, Hank.

I mean, do you have a doctorate? Did Derek and? Do you have a doctorate? What does that count for? Hank doesn't have a degree. No, OK, maybe not that. Remember that thing we talked about, though, for Hank? What?

The place that you can get it. Oh, yeah, OK. Yeah, we'll do which team has more degrees. Sounds good. We have. Accepted. We have one regular degree and one doctorate. OK.

Doctorates got a count of two. Two regulars and Hank. Pending. Pending. OK, well, we'll figure out what the, we'll do 10, 10 different events. That seems ambitious for two hours. Well, no, something.

I don't want to impose. No, but like, no, no. And we got to go from a swimming pool. Wait, yeah. No, but hold on. One of the events is going to be flipping coins. Like shit like that. Like, like quarters or like?

No, just flipping a coin. Yeah, well, just literally the first event will be called the coin toss. And then we'll call tails and we'll immediately be up 1-0. Yeah, because we got tails. Tails never fails. Yeah, exactly. So earlier this season, we had the overtime game

against the Colts. I mean, it's a coin toss. It's as stupid as, like, everybody tries to figure it out. So we had this theory and it worked for like the first three games where like, you switch back and forth each time and we're winning. And so we had overtime against the Colts.

And overtime is much more important than the beginning of the game, obviously. And I love tails never fails. Like, that's what I generally always go with. But one of my buddies, he was like, dude, it's been going back and forth every single time. He's like, it's heads this time. It's heads.

So, and I was like, fuck, it has been going back and forth every single time. So I went out there and I called heads and we fucking lost. Oh, it gets your own head. But then Frank Wright basically gave you guys the game at the end of it. That was a wild win.

That was a wild win, yeah. We went overtime on our first two wins of the year. Oh, shit. Built that momentum. Yeah. Yeah. That was cool when you swore a second ago. And he said, fuck twice.

It's done a couple times. That's a little new. JJ, we're just losing. This is JJ that we're friends with. I like that. Speaking of that Colts game, did you sack Andrew Luck this year? Yeah, I sacked him three times. Whoa.

Did he compliment you? Yeah, after, I mean, not immediately after the sack, but he's done that before. Well, he just says good job, buddy. Yeah, man. He's the best. I love Luck. I mean, obviously he's a great player

and I hate what he did to us in the playoffs. But he's one of my favorite players in the world to play against because I have such an immense amount of respect for him and how he is just, he is who he is. I mean, he doesn't try to bullshit. He doesn't try to be somebody else. And he's truly just a nice, good guy. And he works hard and he's a competitor.

It's fun to play against him. What about Bortles? He's good to play against. I mean, it's different, but he's good to play against. Yeah, because he's just like, you don't know how to defend against him at any time. He can. He can. He can.

I mean, last year, he got us pretty good. Yeah, he sure did. Yeah. I don't even remember if he did or not. Is he like number one on the guest rankings for this show? Yeah, we love Blake. Yeah. He's, well, he's one time Blake of the Year last year.

We called Blake Griffin and Blake Bortles and whoever answered first won Blake of the Year and Blake Bortles. Wasn't doing anything. As he usually is. So he hits the phone. It was good. It was good. All right, JJ, this has been fun, man.

Bucks or Rockets? Yeah, it's so hard. I haven't been to the new Bucks Arena, obviously. I've been to the Rockets and Love Watch the Rockets play. I mean, you got to go with your hometown, hometown. So Bucks, yeah. He's a fucking insane. Dude, it's insane.

Have you been to the new arena? No, I've been. I got to go. I trained at their facility this off season for a couple of days and I got to see it up close, but I didn't actually go into it. It looks unbelievable in what they're doing with the whole area around it and everything. I mean, the Bucks, their facilities and everything they've built up there,

the new owners that bought it a few years back are doing incredible things in the rebrand. I mean, they're everything from their logo to Yanis to the rebranding. They're doing really cool things. No more Joe Prunty. Yes, I was sad. Should I be worried at all about Wisconsin Badgers football? That bad year?

It wasn't. It wasn't ideal. Graham Mertz. I love Coach Chris to death. I mean, Coach Chris is a guy that I would. I hope he's the coach there for the rest of Wisconsin's football. I think he will be. He's incredible.

I love him. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, this year was tough, but it was the bowl games. Nice, a nice win. Well, it's weird because it's everything shifted now. It used to be a season like that's like that's actually a decent season. Right. Now it's I mean, yeah, expectations have completely changed, which is awesome.

Right. But that, you know, when you look back, like, like you look at Nebraska, a few years ago with Bo Polini, I mean, they were going like nine and three, and people were always like, well, we need to be better and stuff. But then you get rid of him and you're going, you're going through all this crap. So it's like, you sometimes people have to remember, this is hard. Right. It's not easy.

Right. And like, so you're going through some tough years. And this year, I think we started rank like number four. Yes, which was two. I mean, yeah. Wisconsin can't be that high on the radar ever. Right. We got to just lay low.

Right. And then sneak up on people. Yeah. Like that, that always makes you nervous. The high expectations definitely hurt us out of the gate. Yeah. But I mean, two years ago was, was awesome to watch and it's fun. So the thing I love about coach Chris is, I mean, you know, he's like, he's,

he's just the man. Yeah. Everything is just, he tells it straightforward like it is. He's, he's Wisconsin football. Where's the same gray sweatshirt that, that I don't even think they make any more classes. Yeah. He's perfect.

I agree. Yeah. He's awesome. Exactly. I love that guy. I'm excited to see him when I go back for commencement and have a chat with him. Yeah. When you do the whole, uh, get everyone on their feet and bench press.

And then the chicken. Bring me on. Don't forget the chicken. Yeah. Never stone cold. I thought you were going to make a Darren Ravel joke there with the chick peas. Cause Oh yeah.

You're free. Like you're good friends with Ravel. Yeah. We talk, we talk from time to time. He's, uh, just be careful with him. He's, he's, where's the show stand with him right now? I know. I was back and forth.

Yeah. Suspended him for six months. What happened? Cause he got too thirsty. He was like putting me into like articles, trying to get clicks. And he said that he, when he got hired as new place, he said that he will be going on part of my take now that he is no longer at ESPN. And we hadn't invited him.

Oh, self-invite. Yeah. So it's like, just chill out. Just, you know, he needs to just relax. He got it. I hear you. Nerds get overly excited sometimes. He's just going to be like, dude, just come on.

We'll invite you when we invite you. He did send me to a pretty unbelievable sushi spot for lunch. I give him credit. He loves food. Dude, it's insane. Yeah. But he does like the thing where you take a bite and then throw it out. And I'm like, yeah, I know he does.

Yeah. This is a food waste. Yeah. Because he's got it. He does like the taste test on his Instagram stories and just takes one bite and throws it. That's stupid to take one bite of something and then judge it. That's really dumb.

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Okay. Segments, trouble in paradise. Boston Celtics. Oh, Hank, Hank. I'm, as I talked about who's back the week, I'm more of a Bruins guy anyway. Okay. So the, what is going on with the South? They lost to the Lakers, then a really bad flippers team that's basically just

traded everyone and trying to tank. They blew a 26 point lead. And Marcus Morris after the game said this team isn't having fun. It hasn't been fun in a long time. Team is a bunch of individuals. They're not playing like a team. Basically just called everyone out. Also calling Brad Stevens out a little bit.

Well, Brad Stevens called himself out. Yeah. And I actually reminded Hank, remember last year when we had the fun embrace debate, would you take Brad Stevens or LeBron James? Yeah, that was a good one. And Hank said who? I actually might have said Brad Stevens too. Just say I hate LeBron.

But, uh, what, uh, what's going on, Hank? Give us the reason. Like, tell us what's going on. I don't know. I mean, I wish I had the answers for you. Uh, Kyrie got injured again. So that's, but the thing is like, Kyrie, it's very. Always gets injured.

It's, they're a very streaky team. Kyrie got injured. You would think that means it's going to be bad, but the Celtics are probably going to go on a winning streak now with like Tatum. Uh, yeah, but what about the fun part? There's like Gordon, Bob, but you think Brad Stevens will do that? Bring out the Gordon Bombay, bring out a big beach ball and be like, remember to have fun guys.

There has been a decent, I mean, everyone knows that, uh, Tatum was doing a lot of work with Kobe in the off season. There was some articles about Kobe talking to Jaylen Brown in the off season, telling him to worry about himself. So it's like, it could be like Kobe trying to infiltrate from within. Great mama move to basically take down the Celtics from, from a mentorship. The rivalry continues. You got to get yours.

You got to get yours. Always get yours. I do like that. And didn't Kyrie say like the best teams, uh, or Kobe told him that the best teams have some internal discomfort. How many, so basically his advice to Kyrie was like, act like a dickhead. Yeah. And then that way everybody will hate you and they'll have somebody to

unite around hating school of LeBron. How many people does Kobe mentor? A lot. On the Celtics. I would never, if I played in the NBA, I would never take Kobe Bryant's mentorship seriously because I knew that at the end of the day, Kobe does not want you to be better than he was. Kobe's just trying to get his, he's still playing defense.

Yes. It was obviously an awful loss, but everyone knows that the season doesn't start till after the, uh, all start break anyway. And like Kyrie said, they don't have the senior leadership. So this was Morris just trying to like get the guys fired up more so than I think there's a real problem. So no, no trouble. Not so panic button, one to 10.

Two. That's it. Yeah. One is the pan, one is panic. It goes, no, 10 is, then eight. Oh, well, it's an eight out of 10. Damn. Holy shit.

Thanks for that. I'm not worried. I'd be a little bit worried. You're so not worried. I'm not worried at all. At all. Not worried. If you were not worried at all, it'd be a zero in the off season.

They're probably going to trade like their entire team for Anthony Davis. So like it's tough to really get like deep, deep into like falling. So you're good with trading everyone. Yeah. So it sounds like you don't think that this is a team for the future. It's the same thing as the Cleo match situation. If you have, if you can get a player like Anthony Davis in his prime, you do whatever it takes to get him.

It's just, it's this exact same thing as Cleo Mac. Well, no, I think it's a little bit different because you have a young group of kids that they're good, right? They should be the team that if you were a good sports town, you would just line up behind them and be like, Hey, listen, I'm loyal to you. Long run. Let's ride. But now you're just like, no, get them out of town.

Also, you're just chasing a high. I wouldn't have traded Mr. Bristol for Cleo Mac. I wouldn't have. Okay. Yeah. So how does that compare to this? Well, we traded picks, not players.

Oh, got it. Yeah. Yeah. Now you're just talking sports, which it's different. Yeah. Well, I just, I wouldn't have traded. I wouldn't give up Mr. Bristol sad that Cleo Mac any day of the week.

And I can prove that by not having to do it. So you never know what my real answer is. I actually think that the Celtics just press the panic button on themselves after hearing Hank talk about how they should blow the whole thing up. I don't want to blow the whole thing up. But the reality is they are directly going to try and blow the whole thing up. Directly bronze yourself. Blow this.

Yeah, you did get these bums out of my town. I never said that. I just said that's probably what's going to happen. Okay. Sounds like it sounds like we just made more trouble. You can book to sell this going on like an eight out of 11 streak from here on out. Book it. There's only 11 games left.

No, I'm just saying like, oh, just at some point they're going to win eight out of 11. Yes. Soon. So why don't you put your money away out to say 10 out of 11 for how much? No, just say it that way. If you believe in your guys, if they don't get eight out of 11 at some point, you have to shave your beard for the rest of the season. Yeah.

What if they do if they do, you don't have to shave your head, I'll shave your beard. That's I will personally shave your beard. Okay. Next up we have a nitpicking Zion. Zion Williamson had an awesome block against Virginia, but the ball went out of bounce. Mm hmm. Keep that.

You what you should do with Bill Russell was so good at is catching those. That block. I don't even know what to say. He's fucking like the athleticism that Zion has is insane. Well, I don't even understand the people who I think I've heard it was Scotty. Someone, maybe it's Charles Barkley or Scotty. Someone has like tried to say that Zion. Oh, it's Mike Francesa.

That doesn't really count. But who cares? Scotty Kippin's actually should stop playing. Right. They right. So Scotty's on the right side of history, but there there's been some rumblings like Zion. I don't know.

The dude is just out of out of this world, the shit he does. And even like, even against Virginia, I didn't think he was that great. And then he looked at his stats like, Oh yeah, he dominated the game. He blocked a shot where the guy was getting ready to shoot the three pointer while Zion was standing in the fucking paint. So what you're telling me is he was out of position. Yeah. So his position needs a lot of work.

He should have had to work that hard to get out there to block that shot. I mean, it's Duke's year. No one is beating Duke. No one is not happening. Agreed. They are a special team. It's incredible to watch night in and night out. Agreed.

There's no one beating Duke. I agree. I'm happy you're on board. I'm happy you're on board. I've been on board. OK, Duke's year, bro. Yeah. Hell yeah.

All right. Sticking with the college sports. We have a for Clemson. Dabbo Sweeney came out and remember there was some very weird drug positive tests right before the bowl game, the semifinals. So Dabbo came out and said there's a chance they might have actually Clemson itself might have given him the drugs by accident, the PEDs. He said, oh, yeah, I mean, there's a chance that it could have come from anything.

They're going to test everything and look at everything. And that's the problem is you really look at this stuff. It could be a good, a contaminant, contaminant that came from anything that was something that was clear to not a problem. All of a sudden it becomes there was something. So three guys got tested positive. And Dabbo's like, well, yeah, it could have come from us. Very interesting.

They have that they have that rock that they all rub at the bottom of the hill. Right. Hmm. Maybe that's some sort of crystal. All I know is that Alabama fans, I'm sure, will take this well. Oh, definitely. Yes. Definitely. I mean, listen, I, as we said, when this happened, I believe I do not believe that Dabbo Sweeney would engage in anything. Dexter Lawrence. He just believed him.

He's a good guy. And I choose to still believe that. Well, Dabbo's pumping them through, pull us full of steroids. It's not his fault. That's true. He's just a student athlete. That'll be great. If you could just like somehow put a steroid in the, in the water system. So just in the showers, when the guys were taking showers,

it just like soaked in through their skin. Yeah, that would be good. That'd be cool. Yeah. Topical. Like call it Nebraska and the 80s. Yeah. Rhino horn just ground up and worked into the pipes. I'm going to get some mean tweets about that. About Nebraska. They get mad when they don't have the internet.

The weightlifting, they invented weightlifting program. They had no new steroids. Respect the biz, Bob Costas. So explain this for the people. So this is a really big deal to Bob Costas. Back in 2015, you know, when Bob used to sit us down at half time of the Monday football games and give us his little lectures about everything about about how he's a better human being than everybody else.

He'd wear his little hat and his scarf. Yeah. Oh, the scarves were incredible. He would wear gloves, even though I'm pretty sure he was inside. He looked like he was like the malnourished kid in Newsy's. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, come along. Extreme, extreme. Jimmy's got the got the gameplay.

Come on, Bobby. So he basically he had a half time monologue written down for himself that said that we're all bad people for watching the NFL and that we should all be. We should all feel complicit in the ongoing rash of like severe head injuries. And it was right when the movie Concussion was coming out. Yep. And they were playing a game in Pittsburgh. To the truth, to the truth, to the truth. And Bob was saying that like we need to do some soul searching as Americans.

This is half time of a football game that he was getting paid to be on. Correct. The broadcast. Correct. Because he was the host at the time. And NBC said, sorry, we can't do that. And then Bob knew from that moment going forward that the situation in his words was untenable. So once you've lost Bob Costas, the moral soul of America, I think that there's going to be some very serious questions

about the the journalistic integrity of NBC. Can I say something that I don't even know where everyone like, I don't know where popular opinion has gone on this story because it just came out a couple of hours ago. I just believe whatever Bob Costas tells me to. Of course, the NFL is like, hey, Bob, you can't say that on one of our fucking broadcasts, dude. Like that.

That's not Roger Goodell does a lot of stuff to silence a lot of people. He's kind of a clown. You know, he is a clown. But this one, it's like, yeah, why? Why would you be allowed to bash the league that's paying like you your salary right now? Right. And also, I think that there's like a little bit of gravity lost from it every time I see Bob Costas speaking at me

when he doesn't have pink eye. Right. I need the pink eye. The pink eye is like, that's a that's like a bat signal, letting me know that this is a big shit going on right now. Like he's battling through. He basically slept the night before with his eye and somebody's butthole, and he's still shown up for work on time. It's also there's a difference. Wouldn't you agree?

There's a difference like Roger Goodell going after ESPN because they're running outside the lines or talking about it outside of a game broadcast. That's ridiculous. You can't tell an entire organization to just stop doing journalism because they don't agree with you all the time. But Bob Costas is doing it during an NFL game, like during the broadcast. If he had done that on real sports with Brian Gumbel, who the fuck cares? If he had done it, you know, on a radio show or any like during the Kentucky Derby.

If he had been like, hey, I really want to talk about concussion in the football. I don't think the NFL would have cared. No, they wouldn't. During a game, you really can't do that. Yeah. So Bob is a big, big J. And he finally answered the question that everyone's been dying to know, which is why wasn't Bob Costas featured on NBC's coverage of the Super Bowl a year ago? That's the best part. That's the punchline. Yeah. So the headline is like, here's why Bob Costas was not allowed

to do the pregame of Super Bowl 52 right a year ago. And everyone's like, oh, finally, I know you guys have been asked. I've been burning up about this in a year and I've judged the conversation where the where the dialogues going and people are still wondering where I was. Well, here it is. Yeah, it's this and the Malcolm Butler situation. Those are the two biggest things on everybody's mind for the last year. With what happened to that Super Bowl?

Listen, I like Bob Costas because he's got a big game voice and we grew up with Bob Costas, but he is number one in smell your own farts. Hall of Fame. He farts in his hand and cups it and puts it right to his nose. And one of the funnier parts about this thing was he's saying that he's actually fearful for putting this information out there. So he's scared to put this out because he doesn't want to like he doesn't want to disappoint the people that he's worked with in the past. And it's something that he's been worried about for the last year.

Outside the lines had a series of dozens of conversations with Bob about this matter. And he finally felt the time was right to come forward and say, I wasn't allowed to talk shit about the NFL during a Monday Night Football Game 2015. That is a load off my chest. It's big, too, because this is the first time outside the lines ever talked about concussions. Yeah, that'll be big. If we can really the concussion show, if we can work in a FIFA World Cup angle to this, then Bob Lee is just going to nut all over himself.

How youth based, how how T-ball actually causes a lot of concussions because uncoordinated five year olds let the bat fly and one kid got knocked out. Oh, I think the worst problem is bat flipping. Yeah, that flipping. Yeah, that's true. All right, let's stop. Let's finish with a drunk idea. Oh, yeah. So I had this idea on Saturday to make a union of scabs. OK, so scabs should unionize.

So Hank, a scab is somebody that like if you're talking about the AF, if an organization goes on strike, then they make a picket line and they're trying to just shut down the work site and then they get the big inflatable rat. Yeah, the big rat just sit it on the sideline on the street. Yeah, and then scabs are the guys that come in and they take their jobs and they'll go ahead and they'll work for lower pay. Yeah. And so that's bad for the union, for the organized labor. But the scabs themselves should unionize.

Oh, I like that. That's what I'm saying. It's like they should they should get together and demand better treatment. I'll put everyone new scabs then just appear. Yeah, but then they unionize, too. But no, actually, we got a union off. We don't like the third wave of scabs. So we've got a union off. Yeah, it's a union off. It's a little much.

I don't hate that. Yeah. Yeah, everyone's just threatening to union against each other. I did say on the radio on Friday how hilarious it would be if we tried to unionize just the content that would come out. Oh, be incredible. Yeah. We had Hank be our union rep. Yeah, Hank, will you wear a workers of the world unite shirt? Absolutely. Pipefitters 141.

Yeah, I think I can get it done. You think you want to head this up? Yeah. I think you and Marty, I would love to see you negotiate our terms as our as a union. What do you demand as as the leader of the professional more vacations? I yeah, I personally would need a raise and more vacation. That's not what a union is, Hank. That's just you. I'm just trying to get a promotion. No, but that's not what you the union is.

Basically, everyone gets paid a little less, but we all get paid a little more. But as head of the union, I should get paid more, right? No, yeah, absolutely. I think that's fair. Yeah. You got to wet the beak a little bit, but then you know what? You should run for like Alderman, too. Yeah, but once you do that, then we're just going to have Bubba scab for you. And he's going to scab you right out of the union. Scab the fuck out of you.

But you guys are in my union. Not yet, but you're not actually looking out for us. You're looking out for yourself. No, but that's I'm just saying. Union of one. There is there is something to be said for the fact that if you want to perform well at your job, you should be compensated like you're performing well at your job. Gives you that confidence.

That's why Kurt Cousins had such a good season this year because he got paid so much money. So you're good, Hank, you got this. OK, I'll talk to David later. I love it. Yeah. All right. Wednesday, we have something very special planned for you. Think Dog Show might have a special guest, a little something out of the ordinary. Get excited and tweet his questions.

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