Pardon My Take - JJ Watt, Lebron Breaks Kareem’s Record, Max Is Going To The Super Bowl + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: February 8, 2023

Lebron breaks Kareem’s record and we discuss why we actually deserve credit (00:00:00-00:14:13). Super Bowl Media Day and Matt Nagy triggered Big Cat (00:14:13-00:21:41). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:21:41-00:48:55). JJ Watt joins us in our C4 Studio to talk about his retirement, career, uhhh hey JJ, what makes a great D-Lineman great and tons more (00:48:55-01:52:24). We finish with guys on chicks Super Bowl edition (01:52:24-02:11:24).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, our good friend JJ Watt in studio in our C4 studio in Arizona. Super Bowl Day two. We're going to talk a little more Super Bowl. We're taping this early in the day.

So we're also going to talk about LeBron James breaking the record. So congratulations to him that won't pack fire whatsoever. We have hot seat, cool throne. We have guys on chicks, Super Bowl etiquette edition. Great show coming. I actually want to say this JJ Watt interview. It feels like the fight because, you know, the first one I thought we did OK, but we probably hyped it too much.

I'm ready to hype this one. I thought it was very, very good. I thought it was good, too. Yes, we started to say last week like you can't tell the story of JJ Watt without part of my take. I actually don't think that you can tell the story of part of my take without JJ Watt agreed, agreed. So it's a yeah, it's a mutually beneficial relationship that is spawned and Hank still hates him.

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Oh, we're going to rock down to electric avenue. Here's any by Barstool Sports. Welcome to part of my take today is Wednesday, February 8th. You OK, Hank? I'm great. I'm fantastic. The C4 couch is comfortable as can be. Yeah, you're really sitting in it well.

And congratulations to LeBron James for breaking the all time scoring record. Great job, LeBron. I'm happy for you. You know, LeBron, he's had quite a week. He goes from the ups to the downs. He's going to break cream Abdul Jabbar's all time record. That's impressive. Like great job, you know, kind of a ball hog, but that's fine.

You you are a stack compiler. You're the greatest stack compiler of all time, but he would trade it all to be able to go to Starbucks and get his his name written on the cup. Yeah, and go shop at Target at first. I was like, man, LeBron, you don't own anything in your house that's that's purchased at Target. But then I thought more about it and I was like, I bet he does actually. Oh, he definitely is by the the weird like pictures and sayings guy.

Yes. Oh, he's got home is where the heart is. Yeah. Homes are like the wine sayings like Hakuna, Moscato. Yeah, everything happens for a reason. It's five o'clock somewhere. Or it's wine o'clock. Yeah. Yeah. No. And he's probably got like a Scarface poster somewhere. He's got the kiss.

He's got the Pink Floyd album. It was just very funny to be like to see LeBron say like, I just wish I could go to Starbucks and get my name written on the cup. Yeah, you can go to the drive through. It is write your name on it on the drive through. It actually is one of those weird things where LeBron saying that. I I I understand what he's saying, but it's it's I think it was maybe Brady a few years ago when he's like, yeah, it's really tough, you know,

to be a parent and try to figure out how to raise your kids when they have so much. Fair, fair thing to say. No one wants to hear it. Yeah, like fair thing for LeBron to say, because I bet you when you become that insanely famous, there is a part of you that's like, I really wish I could just walk down the street and just be a regular dude. Yeah, but again, no one wants to hear it because everyone would trade lives. Well, that's what Michael Jackson did.

So Michael Jackson was so famous and so unique looking that he couldn't go anywhere. He actually rented out and tires his whole face. The entire no, well, that was I mean, that might have been part of it at first. And that things got out of hand. But he rented out an entire supermarket and he paid people to be actors to pretend like they were shopping the supermarket so you could be able to go out and shop for whatever weird stuff he just he just did a Nathan Fielder show. Yes, exactly.

He did the simulation. Yeah, the rehearsal. Yeah, the rehearsal for himself. But yeah, LeBron. So we are taping this early, so maybe he didn't break it. He didn't. He didn't. I don't think so. You don't think so. No, I do it at home. They're at home tonight.

Next point. I don't think he's going to break it. He's going to do it at home. The only thing you could say is if LeBron is a true historian of the game, he would wait to break it against the box. The only other team the cream played for. So Lakers box playing on Thursday night. Maybe he does that.

Who knows? Either way, if he does break it, I'm not going to be a hater about it. I'm not going to be like it's just an attendance record because that's what it is. He just played a ton of seasons. Didn't go to college, which is not something we should look up to. Three point line didn't exist for cream for like half his career. And it's I mean, he does have the most points per game LeBron. So that's wait, no, he doesn't know MJ still has most points per game. But either way, well, if LeBron hadn't played in all the

are we counting playoff games and his all time points? I don't think it does. It doesn't. OK, well, then that completely submarines my take on him. I did do a little research trying to just being ready for this moment because it is an incredible moment LeBron is an all time player. He's very good at basketball. I think we can all agree on that. But I did kind of arm myself with some stats.

He's actually more he's closer to James Harden than MJ in terms of points per game. What about his his efficiency rate? I don't know what his PR is. PR plus is what I know. Plus his PR plus stinks. So the craziest thing I was looking. So I was looking through the points per game. I asked you this trivia question earlier.

PFT Hank, were you in the room? Because I can ask you now. I don't you didn't ask me a trivia question. Well, you were standing there when we were talking about it. There's nine guys right now who are current active players in the top 30 all time points per game. Kind of tells you what the error we're playing in. And one name is just insane that you would never guess.

I think you were there. So it's KD LeBron, Dame, James Harden, Steph, Deli, AD, Devin Booker, Kyrie, and then one last name. Can anyone guess it? I can. Well, you heard it. It's Carl Anthony Towns, which was shocked me when I saw that. I was like, huh, he is. He's top 30. He's turning the corner.

Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, that is a wild stat. Is it not? It is kind of crazy, though, to think about LeBron, how since 2003, the NBA has been LeBron James. That's such a long time. Like those are so many different areas that he's overlapped since he got into the league. And the league has just been focused on him that entire time.

It's it's honestly impressive. Some would say it's a little look at me selfish, not me. Some would also say like, hey, LeBron, you've definitely been using performance enhancing drugs. I would not say that about him. But a lot of people have said it. I think that we should we should hear them out. Here's something nice I'm going to say about LeBron.

I think there has never been a case where the he exceeded the hype because he was expected to be this player coming out of high school, you know, the televised high school games. And he somehow was better than that because, you know, there's been many times in sports where you see a player or a prospect. You're like, he's going to be the next guy and he might even have a good career.

Doesn't have a career like LeBron James. It's pretty insane to think about like the the the general media called their shot. Oh, and they were right. Yeah, we actually we should get ready. In the media, because like we were so right about James. We call. Guess what? I'm calling it right now. Wimbanyana is going to be great.

Yeah, he's going to be. He's going to even be better than LeBron at his peaks. Yes. And yeah, actually, when you think about it, LeBron, like he actually had kind of an average career when you put it into perspective, we all expected him to be great. Well, he wasn't the like he should have been averaging 50 points. If he averaged 50 points a game, then we could be like, hand up. We were wrong. You were that much better than we expected.

We kind of expected this. I personally expected LeBron to surpass Michael Jordan's championship numbers. So he didn't do it. Well, he did. He surpassed his finals appearances, right? Yeah. Appearances. So losses and losses. He has more the all time. Is he the all time four and six? No.

Is he four and six? No. Is is LeBron James the all time NBA finals losses leader? No, wouldn't that be it? It would have to be like, no, we'll Jerry West, maybe Jerry. Oh, yeah, Jerry West every year lost everything. Yeah, he lost literally every year. I want LeBron to stick around and make more finals so he can be the biggest, the biggest finals loser of all time.

Now, tonight of all nights, you should have skip Bayless if he doesn't. He doesn't pass the record. But I'm just I'm letting you guys know right now. This is what makes my turn on skip Bayless tweet notifications because he's got something loaded. Well, I don't know what his angle is going to be. He's going to pretend to be gracious.

And there's going to be something that's like very slightly deprecating in there towards LeBron James. I'm just excited as a student of his game. This is three and a half and six. This is good. This is going to be great because what is it? Three and a half and six. Yeah.

Well, actually three and six because Kyrie carried him in 2016. Two and a half and six. Two and a half and six. Well, and also he had Bosch and Wade and it was the baby Thunder stimulus. Yeah, Tim Duncan was old. Didn't he get swept once? He did get swept by the Spurs. That should count as two.

Yeah, two losses. Yeah, this is this is the difference between part of my take in every other podcast. I always think like I think most there probably won't be like a ton of new listeners for JJ Walker because we've had him on before. But for any of the new listeners listening to the start of the show, they're like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? LeBron scored 20 points against the Thunder.

He's still 16 away. And then the even better part is if he falls short tonight on Tuesday night, we're not even going to mention it on Friday show. And people will be like, you don't even mention it. But like, go listen to Tuesday show, bro. He gave him his flowers. We already did this. We already you want to do it again.

We're first reporting that LeBron James has broken the record. So he's credit part of my take credit us if he doesn't. Now, if he doesn't do it, wow, what a what a colossal disappointment that would be to be within striking range at home in front of the home crowd and not breaking that record. I did. So I bet it really put an asterisk on the entire deal. I bet is over 32 and a half points tonight.

And I didn't I just did it. I woke up and I bet it. And then I realized the box angle that I mentioned that he would be playing against the only other team Kareem played for the guys passing. And also, is there like a sadder team that you could break an all time record against than the Thunder? That's that's that's a real tough one, probably the Wizards. Maybe the Kings, Kings are good, though.

Kings are good right now. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's it's pretty up there. It's pretty up there. It really gets the Thunder. It really does the significance of the entire operation, I think, right to break it against the Thunder. He'll probably do it tonight and they'll probably stop the game. Oh, yeah.

And LeBron, do you think he's going to take the mic and thank everybody? I hope he writes a letter to his younger self. Yeah, those are always fun. Well, it's really a letter from his younger self to his future self, but he's writing it as his future. So yes, this is big LeBron cosplaying as young LeBron thanking future LeBron. You mentioned Skip Bayless and we got to give him a shout out because he did the impossible.

He criticized LeBron for not demanding a trade for Kyrie straight up. So that trade was never on the table. So he was like LeBron's best chance of winning a ring this year would be with Kevin Durant. He should have demanded a trade for Kyrie straight up. That trade never happened or never was even discussed. Not only is that trade not discussed, LeBron can't be traded. And I'm not saying like he can't be traded because he's LeBron. He contractually cannot be traded.

Does he have a no trade clause? No, he signed his two year extension in August and you can't trade him for six months. In the NBA pie laws. So Skip had a whole hypothetical that contractually cannot take place. It's a tough moment for our boy. If you're LeBron, you can probably you can figure out those laws. You can actually do the trade. What would happen if LeBron, I know he can't be traded.

If he just showed up in Brooklyn, put on a Nets uniform and tried to play. They let him play. Are they going to stop him or are you going to stop LeBron James? I remember it was a big deal because it was he signed it. It's like a six month rule and he could have signed it earlier in the summer and he signed it later in the summer. And then it became clear that he couldn't get like the trade deadline would pass before you could get traded.

Well, could he trade like the future rights to drafting his son? Yeah, that might be that might be the thunder. Remember when he was talking about Sam Presti? Yeah, I would I would love it if LeBron James' son got into the NBA and just swatted the shit out of his dad. That would be cool. That would rule. Okay, so what else we got in that?

That's the leading story LeBron, not passing Kareem's record against the thunder, even though we started the whole show about it. There was media night. Media night happened on Monday. Wow, the pageantry, the magic, the entertaining questions. It truly has it all. Did you hear so our friend, friend of the program, Dave Damichek asked a great question to Nick Siriani.

He asked him if the Super Bowl is a must win. Yeah. And I agree it is a must win because I was thinking about it. He should have maybe asked is it a must win, can't lose. I think it's a must win. I disagree. You think it's can't lose? Yeah, it's a can't lose.

Because if you if you lose, then what? Yeah. But if you win, it's like, OK, it's a must win. OK, we just checked off something. Good job. OK, you might be right. Moving on. I think it's a can't lose.

It can't lose. If you if you're Nick Siriani, you lose the Super Bowl. You're going to be known as Super Bowl losing head coach. Yeah, you can't lose that game. You can't. You cannot lose that game if you're Nick Siriani. And if you, yeah, you I mean, you want to win it, but it's not a must win.

If you what happens if you if you lose a must win? Then you get another crack at a must win later. That's then your next Super Bowl becomes a must or win. But he will get another crack at it. We think we think you think they you think if they lose Super Bowl, they fire Nick Siriani. No, but see, but he might he he lost a must win. You can't have a coach around that loses must wins.

Right. Losing a can't lose, though, is pretty bad. If you lose a can't lose, then he resigns. Yeah, you have to just fall on the sword. Literally. Yes. Like, kill yourself. Yes.

Yes. Japanese. Yes. If you have any honor, Nick Siriani will commit seppuku on the 50 yard line. Get my sword. Yeah. Unsheath it.

The Lombardi trophy, the loser should have to impale themselves with it. I would see Jason Kelsey would definitely be the sword unsheather. Yeah. He would he would be the designated sword guy. He seems like Jason Kelsey is an all time like costume guy. He can wear any costume and would look incredible.

I think if he were like either the executioner's hood or if he put on like a priest robe and gave him his last rights, I think that would look awesome. Big baggy pants. Yeah, huge baggy pants for some reason. That would look cool, yeah. Giant weird baggy pants. Yeah.

Did you know Jason Kelsey plays the saxophone? No, I did not. Yeah. So I saw a video got me pumped up. He was like the Philadelphia Orchestra. He was playing the saxophone. They were doing Fly Eagles Fly. And it was just an awesome like Philadelphia moment where all

these people at the symphony and they're just singing the song and chanting Eagles. Yeah. Jason Kelsey might be the most interesting guy in football. You could tell me any fact about him. And I would believe it because he seems like a worldly guy with lots of different pursuits. He also said, no, it's Travis Kelsey, I think.

They asked him about the key to preserving his body and to making sure he's always in good football shape. He said naps. He naps like three times a day, takes like 30, 45 minute naps. I might have to start dipping my toe into the nap game. Dude, that's, I mean, whenever you read a story about someone who lives forever, who lives to like 115, it's never the dude that's at the gym.

It's like a 5-2 person from Italy who just takes naps, drinks wine, and eats pasta with like fresh olive oil every day. Yeah. Or like a grandmother who's like, well, I've smoked the same brand of cigarettes for 60 years. It's the no stress people. It has nothing to do with physical fitness. It's all about stress.

Yeah. If you just have no stress, you'll live forever. And it's always those people, so maybe that is. The naps, we can live forever. I'm going to get into the nap game. I used to call them just blacking out, but I feel like, you know, now that I'm in my late 30s, I'll just call them naps.

Dude, you're brand. I am elite at the nap game. I'm like, the dad nap is a true thing where if I lay down, like I'll even be like, it'll be the middle of the day and my kids will be playing. If I lay down, lay down flat, 10 minute nap, no problem. Instantly, instantly. I could have a cup of coffee in my hand, 10 minute nap.

I'm already geared up for the master's nap this year. I've got my spot on the couch picked out. No one's touching that thing. Yep. I'm going to be sick. I've done some reps. I've been up and training it. You've got to get your reps in beforehand.

You don't want to hurt yourself, pull muscle napping, which is something that I've actually done. Is the injury yourself sleeping? That's what I knew. It's time to hang it up, just on any aspirations of being physically fit. You wake up in the morning and you've got a pulled hamstring. I've had the ankle.

I wake up and I just did I run in my sleep? The way to take your master's nap to the elite level for everyone out there, crack a window, crack a window, get some air, wake up. It's a little cold. It's like maybe 430 in the afternoon. It's a little cold. You missed probably, I don't know, seven holes.

Yeah. And it's just that's spring air. I'm going on a little vacay after the Super Bowl. I've already planned to shut the fuck up. I plan to abscond from the hotel with one of their robes that I will be wearing for my master's nap. I've got it all set up. That's how you also take it like getting

getting into full relaxation mode requires a robe. Yes, yes. There was another story about the Rocky statue in Philadelphia. This might have been from the same interview with the Kelsey's. It turns out that every team, every fan of every team that's put on opposing jerseys on the Rocky statue over the last like five years going back to the Super Bowl against the Patriots back in 20 was a 18 17 17 17 17 and 2018.

Every time that's happened, that team is lost. So if you're a chiefs fan, don't go to the Rocky statue and get it dressed up because that's like go will have his vengeance. I'm going to need an Eagles fan to please go and put a jersey on. Well, false flag operation. That's I will pay for someone. I'll pay for the jersey operation or someone hit me up. I will do that.

I did get a little triggered with Super Bowl media night because I saw Matt Nagy getting interviewed. So that triggered me. And someone was asking about Justin Fields and I was like watching the video being like stop talking about him. He's not yours. You tried to ruin him. Shut the fuck up.

Matt Nagy's next up, man. Yeah, he's next up. It was it was a very it was a very pathetic moment. I was sitting in my car watching this video being just like shut the fuck up, dude. He was like, Justin Fields is wired correctly. Like the guy works so hard, like shut the fuck up and not your quarterback. He's definitely going to take credit for like laying the groundwork of Justin Fields. Like, you know, when he got to the NFL, his his fundamentals were all a skew.

I had to sit down and work real hard with him. It's good to see that some of the lessons that we went through together are starting to take hold. Yeah. And he's ready now, build off of that and take the next step. It was one of those moments is sports fans where you just have to take a step back and be like, dude, are you really letting this bother you? And the answer is yes. I was bothered that he was talking about the words Justin Fields coming out of his

mouth bothered me and that makes me a very small person and that's fine. I'm OK with that. Yeah. So as long as you admit your faults, you can just have them. Yeah. But Woods taught us. But also at the same time, if you're Matt Nagy, this is what you have to do. Yeah, you have to like take credit. That's what we do actually all the time. Yeah, we took credit for we're taking credit for JJ Watts career.

His entire career. We're taking credit for changes. We're taking credit for LeBron James passing cream Abdul Jabbar because we said in 2003 he was going to be good at basketball. We all agree. So like I understand what Matt Nagy is doing. But at the same time, when somebody does it in a way that irritates you, you just want to rip the throat.

I just don't want him to talk about him because I also feel those superstitions like if he talks about him, it's just the stink is going to be there. I don't want him to talk about him. But yeah, yeah, we had Super Bowl media night. We'll do all of our prop bets on Friday show, full preview of it. Let's do hot seat, cool throne. By the way, this whole show is brought to you by C4 C4 takeover. Hank, why don't you start with your hot seat, cool throne?

My hot seat is Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. Trent Delford went somewhere. I don't know what he was on talking. I think it was something to do with the Ravens documentary that came out. But is that I want to watch that. Yeah, is it out? It's out. Oh, hell, yes, I think it's the Ray Lewis thing.

He was talking about Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. He said, you know, when I talk about great quarterbacks, I think about Joe Montana and Steve Young because of the way the game has changed. I don't think Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are impressive. Not that impressive. I love I love Trent Delford because he is he only exists to be the butt of the joke when somebody's like, well, you don't need a great quarterback when it's right, look at Trent Delford.

There was some great. And then obviously, like people online were posting old highlights of his where he was just missing wide open receivers. Tom Kern, a Patriots writer, had this stat from 2001 through 2007. Delford had 29 starts, 31 touchdowns, 38 picks. He'd been in the league seven years when Brady made his first start. Brady had 197 touchdowns and 86 picks and 110 starts over the same span. So that's that's when Trent Delford was playing.

Yeah, there was that stat. Remember, so much more impressive. We brought it up earlier in the season. I can't remember what team we were talking about, but the Ravens, that Raven Super Bowl team, I think they had like a six week, seven week stretch where they didn't score an offensive touchdown and they went like four and two. It was something crazy like that. That's how good their defense was.

But yeah, but yeah, I don't really understand. I get the Aaron Rodgers part. He's overrated, but like, how could you? How could you say those guys are bad quarterbacks? Yeah, it's impressive. What it is, I respect it as long as he has been has been impressive. Take I didn't see coming. So I'm going to do something a little bit out of character for myself.

And I'm going to try to wrap full context around what Trent Delford said. OK, because he was talking about quarterbacks of like the 90s. Guys like Troy Aikman, Steve Young, to a certain extent, Joe Montana, where the pockets and the receivers weren't as quarterback friendly. So like the rules on the you know what? I'm done with it. Trent Delford said that he's better than Tom Brady. Fuck, I don't want to get in the kind of this.

This is one of those takes that's best absorbed without the true context of it because we all need to be able to get our jokes off about Trent Delford. Yeah, he's a coach at UAB. Is he? Yeah, he got hired as a coach at UAB. And then your cool throne, my cool throne is mini golf. Today, mini golf. Jake's been there since I think six thirty this morning. That's why he's not here right now.

I'm heading here right after this hot sea cool throne session. If you enjoyed the bowling live stream, this is going to be something similar. So how are we feeling technology wise? I'm going to the rehearsal. We've never done a live stream mini golf. Are you going to go practice golf? I mean, I'm not playing. I'm just helping, you know, make it happen.

But it's interesting. I'm stressed. It would be a shame. It would be a shame. Hank, do you think it would be a shame? But I think it's going to be great. I'm I'm excited. I'm excited for the course.

I think it's a much better course. I think obviously Hank is so stressed that at 10 o'clock this morning, going down to the car, he was smoking the biggest joint in the world. Oh, no. It would be a shame. And also, if you want to watch it, PFT, myself, Caleb, Jeff D. That's our foursome and we will be live from the part of my take Instagram. We'll be live in the part of my take Instagram.

The broadcast will be live in the parcel sports YouTube. So if you want to, obviously, the YouTube will be bouncing around from all the players. So if you want to watch everyone, watch that. If you want to just watch Big Cat and PFT, go to the part of my take Instagram. I love it. Let's hope it all works. Nothing better than it's going to work. It's going to be great. Yeah.

Everyone's going to tune in. And it would be a shame if it wasn't that PFT is a dark horse. Big Cat, I think it's going to not try and PFT. Well, I tried hard in the first one. I finished like third. PFT finished second. OK, but what? I didn't try.

No, I mean, we'll see. There is there's a lot of OK. Yeah. All right. Now, you know what? I hope it breaks. I hope the whole thing breaks and it never gets brought. Yeah. That's what you already used. I said no. What did I say? It would be a shame.

You literally said the other day you're going to go to the truck and unplug it when you get there. So yeah, I might have said that. I might have said that. Yeah. All right. I might have said that. I might have said that. All right. You're rooting against me. I'm going to try. I don't like I'm not a good golfer.

I'm going to try. I don't like having Hank over my shoulder. I'm going to try. All right. How about I leave then? All right. OK. I'm just going to go. I'm about to be attacked. Go make sure that everything's correct and ready to go.

So that we don't have a shame. Yeah. No, it's going to be great. Everyone tune in. Jake, this morning. Tune in, hopefully. Was like, well, Instagram live. If things are going south, our Instagram live will be up and you'll be having the time of your life.

What if Instagram goes down? Because I'll be freaking out. Then the whole world is probably going to end at that point. You know? Praise God. Enjoy. Drink some C4. All right.

Real shame if LeBron James didn't get the scoring title for the world end. Really would. All right. Love you guys. OK. You don't say that. You don't mean that.

It's exciting. No, you don't. You don't love anybody. All right. PFT, your hot seat. Cool. My hot seat is Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson is on the hot seat because Sean Payton did one of his first interviews while he was getting asked questions

about being the Denver Broncos head coach. And they asked about Russell Wilson's personal coaching staff and training team if they're going to be welcome. I think they're called like team three. OK. After Russell Wilson's not like SEAL team three, basically. Of course. And Sean Payton was like, I don't know what kind of arrangements

we had before that. But around here, that's not going to be the case. We're not going to. I don't participate in any outside coaching. I like that. I also had an epiphany. The Broncos colors might be the best colors for coach hirings because they all put on that orange tie.

And it looks cool. Because I was like, wow, Sean Payton looks cool. I'm like, wait, I thought Nathaniel Hackett looked cool too. And so did Vic Fangio. Something about the Broncos. That orange kind of pops on a tie. It's a little youthful. Yeah.

I would say that if the Seahawks hired somebody, they could have a cool. But you can't go neon on that. Vikings. You can go with the yellow tie. It looks stately. Yeah, the yellow tie. I just I like the orange tie.

So good for you Broncos. Orange tie is good. I think that Sean Payton is just telling himself for not being unlimited. It sounds like he's not buying into the unlimited lifestyle. And I don't know if that you can be a successful head coach if you set limitations on yourself. There's also a 100% chance that Russell Wilson just still

brings his staff like James putting on his uniform when he was suspended at Florida State being like, what? Yeah, I don't understand. He'll just have them change their names and have them get hired as like janitors. Be on the practice squad. Yeah. So Sean Payton is going to have his work cut out for him.

He's trying to she's all that. Russell Wilson, take his glasses off, let his hair down. This is a good first step though. And I really do mean this. Sean Payton, and there's just a reality of how the NFL works, is going to be there longer than Russell Wilson. He will be the coach because there's no scenario where Russell Wilson outlives Sean Payton

in Denver. Because if Russell Wilson is really good, Sean Payton will stay there for a decade plus. If Russell Wilson is really bad, Sean Payton is going to go find the next quarterback. So he should make the rules. And he should be the guy who's like, this is what's going to happen here because I'm

going to be here long past you. Well, Sean Payton also can lay the gauntlet down right now and then slowly take it away as progress. Ping-pong table. But you can't exactly. If you listen, Russ, if you win six games for us in our first eight, you can bring your astrologist in as a treat.

But you can't start out by saying, yeah, you can bring in his whole staff and then ban them. Because then that becomes an issue. It becomes personal. He's laying down the groundwork a little bit. It is very funny too that Russell Wilson had a whole staff when we made a big deal about the Tom Brady Bill Belichick. It's like they were already four or five rings in.

Like Tom Brady got to have Alex Guerrero in the building. Yeah, Russell Wilson won one Super Bowl. He won Super Bowl with his defense. And so what happened? Who's the worst quarterback in the NFL that has their own guys that they rely on? I could see. I was going to say Sam Donald.

But Sam Donald just has one of his college buddies right as Instagram. I was going to say Kyle Trask, but it's probably just his weed dealer. Yeah. Might be Russ. It might be Russ right now. Russ might be the worst.

Yeah. He is probably the worst quarterback that has his team. Yes. My cool throne is Greg Olson. So Brady went on, he shall not be named show the other day, fake soup guy, and said that he's not going to step into the booth broadcasting until 2024. So that means that Greg Olson has an entire another year

at Fox. Now, I do think that there's a good chance that Tom Brady spends the next year just straight up practicing calling games. Like playing games, excuse me, with a sound off, and him doing his analysis. In fact, I brought that up to Jake yesterday. I was like, this seems like a good thing for Greg Olson,

because if he has another great year, they're going to continue to give them something to think about with the Tom Brady situation. But Jake was saying that he used to play YouTube games with the mute button on, and he would do play by play to nobody, which is perfect. Of course. Tom Brady's going to need somebody like that to train with.

I would like to offer Jacob. If Tom Brady needs a play by play guy to bounce off of, Jake will watch YouTube games. You can pick anything out, like any game over the last 10 years, Jake will do play by play. You don't even have to pay him, probably. I'm totally negotiating against Jake. No, you don't have to pay him.

I can say right now you don't have to pay. You don't have to pay Jake, Tom. You can just get Jake to do play by play for you. You can work on your color commentary. Yes. So this was my hot seat, because I actually think it's hot seat, the Tom Brady retirement. He's spending an entire year off.

He's basically admitting that he's not going to start broadcasting games until 2024. He's not retired. I can be him. He's not retired. I can see him being a total psycho about getting ready to do broadcasting. But he just left an entire year open for him to come back.

Like he doesn't have anything holding. If he jumps right into the booth, and the Niners get a bunch of injuries, and they call him, it's like, well, I'm already in the booth. This feels like he's just leaving the door a little bit open, also interesting because Fox has the Super Bowl in 2024. So I respect that part of Tom Brady's decision,

where he's like, I'm not calling a season unless it ends in a Super Bowl. Yeah, they have in 2024. Yeah, so they have it. I don't know what happened with the scheduling. There was a shakeup. I think it's because they got to get ABC into it, because Joe Buck's calling it in like 2027.

There was an article about Joe Buck today that was like, and we love Joe Buck, but it was just Flex City, because this article started like, Joe Buck watched the NFC Championship game at a bar in Paris. Joe Buck's going to watch the Super Bowl at a party in Cabo. He's like, OK, he's living his best life. But yes.

I'm ready to, by the way, flip on Joe Buck again. OK, we'll have to have him on to defend himself. Everybody likes Joe Buck? Yeah. I'm ready to say like, fuck that guy. Yeah, I'm in. Joe Buck is entitled. He's spoiled.

He's whiny. He hates my team. Yep, I'm in. I'm sorry. Like, you were cool for a while, but guess what? We're out. Yeah, but so back on the show to defend yourself. So Fox has this year's Super Bowl,

and they have it again in 2024. OK. So and then it resets where it's now a rotation of NBC, CBS, ABC, which would be Joe Buck. Yeah. And Fox. So yeah, so it was funny that Tom Brady's like, oh, wait, next year we don't have the Super Bowl.

I'll just wait till we have the Super Bowl. It does sound like Tom Brady is taking a vacation away from work to like be a dad for a year, maybe, try to get Giselle back, see how that plays out, not have anything on his schedule. And then returning to work in whatever context that's going to be. I think he's done.

But if you think that that's going to stop us from speculating, every time a quarterback gets injured next year, he could be a destination for Tom Brady. He at least leaves the door open for speculation. Yes. Which I appreciate. Because he won't be doing it. Yeah, no, it's thank you from us, Tom, because we needed that.

He also, did you hear him on Jim Gray's podcast, which I still don't know. Someone's going to have to explain Jim Gray to me at some point. Jim Gray. Why? Started a podcast, apparently. Right. But why is he the, why is, why is it that everyone,

like why did LeBron do the announcement with Jim Gray when he went to Miami? That was Jim Gray, was it not? I think so. Why is Brady, like Jim, why is Jim Gray Brady's guy? What is Jim, who? Jim Gray was a big deal back in the 90s. I know that, but like how is he, I just, I want to,

maybe we just got to get Jim Gray on the show. Yeah, I think like, how are you doing this, dude? How are you the Oprah of sports? Where every like big, only the A plus listers, they're like, need an interview done, Jim Gray. I feel like Jim Gray knows where the bodies are buried. It's crazy. That's why, like he, he probably has all the details.

He's probably, it all goes back to being drinking buddies with people. I bet you Jim Gray's drinking buddies with like Bob Kraft, with Brady's agent, and then they go to him because they know he's a trusted guy, and he's not going to speculate about some of the things that have happened in the past. He was a boxing guy for a while too.

I think he almost got beat up in the ring by Don King, maybe by Mike Tyson. I feel like Jim Gray almost got punched in the face by Mike Tyson in the early 90s, and almost knocked out, and that kind of proved his metal, where he's like, I'll stare anybody down. That was also Howard Letterman when I think he had the, was like, if I were, if I were 50 years younger,

I'd kick your ass. That was him. That was an all time moment. Yeah, I'm looking up Jim Gray right now. I'm trying to figure out what exactly, yeah, he's been around forever. He had a Pete Rose, big Pete Rose thing. Jim Gray, married, no children.

Also says that Jim Gray is a combat veteran, retired special warfare. Oh my God. Wait, no, this is a different Jim Gray. Jim Gray might be, he's a different Jim Gray. He's a retired special warfare combat craft. No, but that's camp camp. Master Chief with 22 years experience.

No. I'm going to run with this. No, that's Jim Gray, computer scientist. I think it's the same Jim Gray. Everyone's just respecting the troops by asking Jim Gray to do these interviews. It's like the old rumor that Mr. Rogers, he wore the sweaters all the time

because he had all the army tattoos on his arm and he had like 53 confirmed kills as a sniper. Yeah. I like that rumor. I'm going to just transfer that to Jim Gray. Jim Gray is a fucking assassin. Damn, Jim Gray, three times sports reporter of the year. What a career.

Yeah, so someone figure out, how does Jim Gray just be the guy? So yeah, the Belichick and Brady were on the show together and Brady like almost cried because it was, it is crazy. It was one of those moments where you feel really stupid with how everyone covers sports and like the Brady versus Belichick thing because they basically both were like, yeah,

we love each other. There's no way we would, either of us would have the success without the other. And it was one of those no dumb moments. Like, yeah, of course. Yeah. It's also very funny. We just got bored and we were like,

they've won six super roles. How can we split them up? Yeah, it's funny that he had Brady and Belichick on his podcast at the same time. And we all agreed as a society that it's not that big a deal and let's not talk about that much. Well, because Jim Gray, that's the part I don't understand.

Jim Gray doesn't move the needle except for the like premier athletes. Can you imagine if Belichick and Brady went on a premier podcast together, like call her daddy and got interviewed at the same time? That would, we'd all be talking about it. Yeah, it's like the secret to our success is we found out day one that we both loved Gluck Gluck 5000.

And that's how you build the foundation Tom had the Cooch Gobbler unlocked. Oh, Bill, you like getting sucked off too? Well, Ernie Adams used to come in the room in Pegas as we were doing film study and that really drove home all the lessons that we need to learn. All right, my other hot seat was Jay Williams.

That dust up with Stephen A was all time, like one of those true great moments where it was very personal on air and you could feel the tension. And Stephen A just bodied him because he just kept, he basically called him out because Jay Williams loves to say, I find it interesting, which is a very good way,

easy way, a cop out way of not actually saying what you feel. And Stephen A was just like, you keep saying that, just say what you wanna say. I find it interesting that Jay Williams keeps saying, I find it interesting. Yeah, right, right. And that's exactly what he was doing.

He was saying, I find it interesting that you have all this animosity towards Kyrie Irving and you don't bring that same energy towards Jeff Bezos, which is a very funny thing to say. As a sentence, but his implication was that Jeff Bezos, by not taking down the link to the documentary of the anti-Semitic film that Kyrie Irving promoted was just as culpable as Kyrie was.

And it's funny to imagine Jeff Bezos, who I don't even think is a CEO of Amazon anymore, but sitting down and screening every documentary that he sells on Amazon and giving it a rating and be like, ah, no, you know what? I didn't like what this filmmaker was trying to do. So we're gonna take this off the online store. Now, I'm gonna say this just because if I'm wrong

and it's just a false statement, then we'll just call it even me and Jay Williams for his tweet about Ema Yodoka being the first African-American. That wasn't Jay. He was hacked. He was hacked. Either way, I'm gonna go for it.

I'm pretty sure I have a memory of Jay Williams after the entire documentary thing. He said that he watched it and there were some interesting points in it. I'm pretty sure he said that. Okay. Who knows if I, someone would maybe have to go find that for me.

I think he said it was bad. Like he's like, it's a bad documentary, but there were some interesting things that were brought up. I just felt it was interesting how the trains ran exactly on time. Yes, yes. So someone find that for me so I can be vindicated

and then I can, Jay Williams and I are no longer even, I still own one. But Stephen A. Smith was, I think he was the victor in this situation. Basically was making Jay Williams very emotional on the air and Jay didn't really know how to explain his way out of it. And then at the end Molly,

bless her heart had to step in and go like, okay, fellas, we're all friends and colleagues and Jay Williams was over there like staring on, looked like he was going to cry. And also Stephen A. Smith had an unbelievable line when Jay Williams tried to call him triggered and Stephen A. Smith said, I'm always triggered. It's like, you can't beat that.

He's always triggered. He's always ready to fight. Yeah, it was great. It was kind of similar to WWE, but it was real. Yeah, right. No, it was that one moment where it breaks and you're like, wait, these guys really don't like each other. When Jay Williams, thanks Stephen A. Smith

for allowing him to speak for 90 seconds on the show. At that point, you knew that there was something personal that Jay was holding back and Stephen A. Smith was, he was like, he smelled blood in the water. And there's no more dangerous Stephen A. Smith than when there's blood in the water. Yes, yes. And then my cool throne, we talked about on Monday,

Max, you ready? Ready to purchase these tickets? Said. You go to the Super Bowl. Said. And also we've decided we added memes is gonna go as well. So memes isn't part of the deal. He's gonna sit with them.

He's gonna get all the content. We're gonna have an incredible PMTV out for this. So Max, we'll have an entire episode of Max at the Super Bowl, we'll have social clips. So memes, I'll get reimbursed for the ticket I buy for you so you don't have to pay me if the chiefs win. So that one will be separate. You can pay me if the chiefs win.

I'll accept that. You're allowed to do that. You can. You could also pay me. You could also help me. Max, don't step on my toes here. Memes, you are more than welcome to pay me if the chiefs win.

Okay, this is a big purchase, Max. What are you thinking? I found there's shout out game time, by the way. Buying them on game time. Use Barstool 100 for $100 off. I think these ones right here, section 417, row 17. Oh, I shouldn't say this out loud. Believe that.

People would just be coming up to you. Yeah, no, we don't need that. We don't need that. Shit, that was stupid. We don't need that. I need to, yeah. Well, yeah, Roan has bailed on us. It's disgusting.

That's fine. Just show me where you want to sit. He's not going to the game? Show me where you want to sit. This couch is an absolute shit. Yeah, Hank ruined it. Show me, point to where you want to sit, and then I'll tell you the price.

I'm going to scroll real quick. I think it's these ones right here. Those look sick. Don't you think? Yeah. Okay, or these, a little more expensive. Yeah, let's give it a little more. Oh, okay.

Okay, all right. Three seats together. The total price is $18,960. And you're paying for how much of that? Whatever, two thirds of that. So Max, we had an interview with Max Homie. He's going to be on the show what, next week? Yeah.

So Max was talking to us. It was really interesting about his confidence and how he developed like a sense of real confidence that's not just based on this hard, tough exterior shell of like pretending to be super confident. I couldn't help but think about you and how you've been acting this week towards the Eagles

because you do have this like hard shell of confidence on the outside. Well, he, the way he really said it was, there was a difference between someone like Billy who has delusional confidence. I think he said he could be clinically diagnosed as being confident. Yes.

So I'd like to think that I'm somewhere in the middle of Billy and Max, but probably closer to Billy. Yeah, I actually think that's fair and that's growth. You admitting that right now is, you can admit that you're nervous, that you're shaky because this is the biggest game of your life while also believing that the Eagles are good enough to win the Super Bowl.

No, you can have both. I, it's starting to get to a point where I like the Eagles so much in this game that it's like there's no way, that like there's no way this is going to happen. It makes too much sense that the Eagles are going to win this game, but that's not true. That's, I'm going to be going back and forth all week.

It's the only thing that's on my mind. We have like a really busy work week and then every single, like every single thing that I do, it's like, I just need to remember that like Sunday, Sunday I need to be ready to go. Yeah, or is this a can't lose or a must win for you? This is a can't lose. Yeah, okay.

That's what I thought. This is a can't lose. Does it, does it make you nervous that Nick Sirianni said it was a must win? Everything, that on it, everything Nick Sirianni does makes me nervous, but he still wins. Yeah.

So the answer is yes. That's actually, yeah. That's good. That's a good way to describe Nick Sirianni. He comes across as the biggest loser in the world, but he's really good. I don't like anything that comes out of his mouth ever. But, but he gets results.

But he's great. He's great. He gets results. I look at him as like a pitilanzo sort of, of football. Okay. It's not baseball season, man. Yeah, but I'm just thinking. You just, half our audience just tuned off.

All right. JJ time? Yeah, hold on. I'm purchasing them. So I hope that I can transfer these. I wonder what if the NFL bans me? I don't think they could do that. Okay.

Now I have to do, all right. We'll do this after. Yeah. The tickets are, you don't need to know where they are. It's gonna be $19,000. It's gonna be $19,000. Okay. So that's, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. That's in my budget. Yeah. That's fine. That's fine. We have breaking news.

Yeah. Max, breaking moves. Yeah. You have to do breaking moves. Oh. Breaking moves. Ooh. Rodgers has talked about,

Aaron Rodgers has talked on the Pat McAfee show about potentially retiring this off season. I don't know, because I haven't seen the clip yet. I don't know what context to take this in. But Aaron Rodgers says that this off season, he has an opportunity to do a little self reflection and some isolation. And then after that, he's going to be a lot closer

to the final, final decision. He has not even decided yet whether he's going to play in 2023. That's why I think it's going to be important to get through this week and take my isolation retreat and contemplate all things my future. He called it a darkness retreat for four nights alone. He said he will be in pitch black all day and all night

for four days and nights. It's really sensory deprivation isolation. He said it stimulates DMT and there can be some hallucinations. I love Aaron Rodgers. Okay. I still hate him, but yeah. He's locking himself.

He's going to be waterboarding himself, basically to stimulate his brain. To release the God particle so he can figure out whether or not he wants to make $58 million next year. I can save you a little. You don't have to have your brain exert the chemical that's reserved for you when you die to pacify you and make passing into the afterlife smoothly

to know that yes, you do want to play football for one more year for $50 million. Yes, it's pretty easy. I'll save you that time. It's pretty easy. By the way, the tickets have been purchased. Okay. You're ready to go.

You're ready to go. Also, just one last thing. Memes. Memes had never been to an NFL game and in the last month, he went to a playoff game in Kansas City and the Super Bowl. Pretty good. I've never been to a fucking Super Bowl.

Jesus Christ. You literally had never been to an NFL game. Yeah, no. Memes is really. He's going to the Super Bowl. That's insane. But it will be great content and we'll do it. It will be a great PMTV.

You'll get to see Max and all his glory. We'll be tweeting out all the live stuff. So make sure you follow. Maybe even you go live at some point from the part of my take Instagram. Who knows what the Wi-Fi situation's going to be like. You're going to get to see Rihanna up close. Hank and Jake aren't here.

I can say that with impunity. I'm very excited to see Rihanna. I'm very excited to just watch Max. I wish I had just had you. I might have a personal file of memes just sending everything. I'm not. Yeah.

I don't know. The closer it gets, the more my heart is just like. You're going to scream at a little child and it's going to be. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm proud. There's going to be. There could be tears. Every time I start talking about it,

he starts like getting deep into the recesses of his brain and realizing the loss is a possibility. And you can hear the switch in his brain where he's like, it's going to be, oh, man, oh, oh. It's going to be. That's him realizing that a loss could happen. And in that scenario, he gets into like, I'm going to fight somebody.

Yes. I'm going to be fighting someone with tears in my eyes. First time someone ever gets his ass beat while the other man's crying. That would be awesome. You should actually think about doing that. You're going to see a rare side of me on Sunday night if the Eagles lose this game. Yeah.

And it's. I think we all know what side of you that's going to be. I also, I'm going to say this right now. Let's make sure maybe Sunday before you go to the stadium, we'll do like a quick video with me and PFT just getting you pumped. Maybe we'll just go live for a minute. Just, just last thoughts before you go into war. Okay.

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Okay, here he is, JJ Watt. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. I think we can give him two various. Very, very, very special guests. Future Hall of Famer, it is JJ Watt. We have to, first of all, thank you for coming. Thanks for having me. This is the first exclusive interview you've given since you retired.

Let's say that. Yeah, I didn't get to ask you, yeah, correct. I mean, what other show did you do? Yeah. Rich Eisen? Yeah, I did Rich and Dan today, but not exclusive. Not exclusive. He definitely didn't go on Cali, right?

Yeah. No, okay, good. Also, Rich and Dan, I would assume, didn't ask you, like, how long could you feel Ravel creeping on you on your last game? Like, we're going to get to that. Yes, of course. We're going to get to that. So those are the good questions.

This is going to be a good, yes, yes, yes. All right, so it's great to have you on here. If I'm sad that you retired. Are you actually retired though? We have to start there. No, but come on. Yes. Like, really?

Yeah. Let's hit him with some hypotheticals. Well, okay, hypothetically, the Steelers are the one seed next year, right? They lose a defense alignment, going into the playoffs. It's like week 17. They're like, hey, JJ, hey, JJ, you want to come play? $10 million, finish out the season.

$10 million to finish out the season. We have 17. Both your brothers, the one seed in Pittsburgh, are you going to deny your family the joy of watching you play with your brothers? I mean, if there's $10 million in week 17 with the one seed and everything, that is inconsiderate. All right, so you're not retired?

No, I'm retired. You're definitely not retired. Well, I mean, you saw Tom Brady retired. You're like, well, now I have to share the Hall of Fame induction ceremony with that guy. It's going to be all about Tom that weekend. Put it off a week, and then it's like you and Matt Ryan. You'll definitely be the eighties.

Perfect. Yeah, you'll get the last speech. Oh, I don't want the last speech. Oh, yeah. No interest in the last speech. I can just fluff it up for Tom and let him hit it out of the park. I can give him all the praise and everything, and then just let him maybe say a quick sentence about me

before he gets into thanking everybody. So all right, so this is where we get Hank in a pickle, because Hank still hates you. No doubt. Yeah, and you knew I'm here to work. I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Yeah, so you brought it up.

You said, Hank, I'm sorry that you hate me. Yeah. It was sad to see the little troll smile on his face. Well, he's proud of it. I'm sure. I mean, he should be. He's holding on. He's holding on to the hate, which is great.

So I told him last night, I was like, you know the old saying like you can't tell the story of football without this person. That's that's kind of the mark of a Hall of Fame. We can't tell the story of football without JJ Watt and the dominance you had. I don't think you can tell the story of JJ Watt's career without pardon my take.

So I'm wondering if maybe we should probably give the speech beforehand. You know, your son won't be old enough. So maybe it's just us and and and you invite us to Canton with you and Hank will unfortunately not be able to attend, even though Tom Brady will also be being ducted that weekend. Right.

So I mean, you know, maybe we could give your speech tonight before the party. You should set up there in Canton. Yeah. And we'll I mean, if I'm fortunate enough to get in, do we do a PMT from there? Don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. I won't. Come on. When you retired, we actually had the debate on part of my take. It was a no brainer. A lot of people will say like JJ Watt, great player, all time player, even better person. That's bullshit.

Way better than you are a person and you're a pretty good person. Oh, thank you. You're a very good person. But any of these guys out there that are like, oh, even better person. Nope. Not true. Not really as good of a person. I appreciate that.

I appreciate that. And probably true, probably true. Let's take off the humble stuff for a second. Your peak, because when you were at your peak, you were the most dominant player in the NFL. Where would you put yourself? I know that like, all right, Reggie White, maybe Lawrence Taylor, you're in the conversation at your peak.

Like if you took best defensive players at their peak, you're in the conversation. Yeah, that's the problem. I was taught literally having this debate this morning with a couple of guys. And the issue with debates like that is what are you talking about? When you say greatest defender of all time, are you talking about longevity of their career?

Are you talking about if you took everything in their career and put it together? Or are you talking about for one single game? Are you talking about for one single season? That which player would you want? Because that's different. I mean, I'm never going to argue for the longevity of my career. I mean, I had injuries, I had issues, I had things going on.

But for one season or one game, I'll put myself in that argument. I like that. Yeah, because it's, I mean, it's a fact. Like your dominance in that stretch, was it three in a row? Did you win three in a row? Three out of four. Three out of four. Three out of four.

Three out of four, defensive player of the years. And I think that maybe, I think people recognize that. They realize like that stretch where it felt like, there was a stretch where it felt like every time they would go on red zone and they'd cut to a text in this game. It was like, what did JJ watches do? And the one thing that I heard about you, and I don't know if you can speak to like how this is possible, but in hearing about like offensive line

and talk about how you played, they said the difference between you and everyone else is that you, your motor never stopped. So you like play one to play 70, you were still going 100%. Is that like, did you know that when you were playing? Like I have the ability to just never let up even a little bit. Yeah, that's something I prodded myself on. And I think, I mean, I don't have it in front of me, but I would say, if I looked at most of the sacks and most of the TFLs and things for my career,

I would assume that a decent majority of them were either in the back half of the season or in the back half of games, like the second half, because guys get worn down, guys get tired, whether it's the second half of a game or it's the second half of the season, you just get gassed. And that's what I prodded myself on that. I mean, we all know my history of working out and some of the bullshit. But that that's why I was who I was at the end of the season because of that.

And it's also part of the reason I ended up injured. I like you say that some of the bullshit when you retired and then the next day you took a picture of you at the squat rack. Not the next day. It was the same day. No. Oh, you took a day off. No, it was like a couple of that. You're talking about the one from a couple days ago when D'Amico got hired.

Yeah, how long of a break did you take? I took 10 days. Ten days? I felt, yeah, yeah, I can't do. I can't do your guy's lifestyle. OK, I just can't try it for 10 days. I mean, I went home to Wisconsin for a weekend and we threw a good party at a little Irish pub in my town and got after it pretty good.

And I had no routine, no nothing. I'd sleep till I could wake up every day and hang out with my son all day. And I was like, dude, I got to get a routine. This is a shit show. Like just a shit show. Freedom can be bad. Yeah, that's also perfect, too. You basically were like, I went to a Wisconsin bar in the middle of winter,

looked around and was like, I can't do this. Yeah, this cannot be a weekly thing, man. Like, this cannot be it. So do you have any plans for retirement? Are you going to step on our tour for you to be one of these players that retires and thinks they can take over the podcasting game? Because our motor never stops. No, no, I can't keep up with the impulse.

Yeah, no, that's why you guys are the reason I will not get into podcasting. Because of how much it's true, you have to be pumping out content at such a crazy rate and you have to be doing it with such like velocity and enthusiasm. And you have to be doing it constantly and you have to have a team that puts it together that literally is a deterrent for me. Like, I don't want to work that hard at that. OK, so that's not it for me. I can't let you know it's a little secret.

It's really easy. Yeah, yeah, these guys do it all. They don't do a lot of it. They're not actually doing anything right now. Just the microphones connect to the internet and then people listen to us. It's pretty fair, although I think that you probably would take pride in like we take pride in having bad opinions. You'd probably want to be correct.

That's the that's really the the key to podcasting is like if you don't care about being correct, it's very easy. That's fair. That's one of the issues that I have, because I mean, I do think that there's some form of broadcasting for me in the future just because I don't want to be away from the game. I want to be around the game. I love it.

Early in my career, I said I'd never do it, but the closer I got to the end, I realized like it's just it's too cool. Like the NFL is awesome and I want to be around it. But I don't want to be around it in the capacity where I have to pour all my time and energy into it. But the problem with broadcasting is is every week you got to make those picks where they put the little thing at the bottom and they're like this. He picked twenty seven to thirteen.

Then on Monday, everybody comes in and like, look at this moron. And I'm like, what do you want me to do? If I knew what I was doing, I'd go to Vegas. I put it all on the line. Like nobody knows what's going on. Yeah, you just have to be so bad, you become good. Yeah, like when everybody picks the one, I'm the guy that picks the other one. And then when you do in, they're like, he knew.

Yeah, right. Right. And I never lost. I'm one and only my last one. Yeah, like, I mean, a game of the year. Yeah, I got to have took a game. You're almost killed me this year. The Baylor BYU game. I didn't sleep and I got sick for like two weeks after.

So yeah, it is. It's harder than the NFL, I would say. Oh, easily. Yeah. Easily watching all these games. If I knew it like my buddies, I mean, even just since the season ended, my buddies are asking me opinions and shit. And I'm trying to like, I'm literally trying to think like, who would I actually pick in this game?

And I'm no more close. Yeah. No more close. So you might want to get into broadcasting. I'm hearing a no to coaching. Yeah. D'Amico calls you up and he's like, hey, yeah, I need your expertise on the defensive line. Are you going, you thinking about it? I'll pop in and talk to the boys and I'll watch practice and I'll talk to them.

But no, I have no interest in the hours and the time commitment and going to the combine and like going to the senior bowl and doing all these things. I do not have interest in that. It is very funny whenever a guy retires like you and they're like, oh, he's going to be a coach. It's like, do you know how much college coach? A college coach would be miserable. Miserable. Yeah.

They put in so many hours. So many hours. Yeah. High school coach like Phil. High school is certainly intriguing to me, no doubt, because of A, the hours are less, but B, the impact that you can have in the way that you can get to those kids and you can actually have some real conversations. There's no NIL. There's no anything else.

I mean, my high school coach had one of the biggest impacts on me and some of the messages he gave and I think that you can help mold the kid's life. And not the kid that's going to college to play football. You can mold the kid's life who's going to college or going to the trades. I mean, one of my best friends from back home is a plumber and to this day, we talk about the messages our high school coach gave us. Yeah. That's cool. That is very cool.

That's awesome. Yeah. How's your heart doing? It's all right, man. It's crazy. So I after that incident happened, it scared the shit out of me and I had a lot of like deep, deep thoughts about life and everything. And for about a week, week and a half, I would check my pulse 10 times a day and I'm just checking my heart. Like I have devices and everything I was checking it just because I was scared

and everything was normal. And then I think it was probably best that I jumped right back into the game because it didn't give me time to think about it. And then I all of a sudden settled back into my routine and I was it went away. I stopped thinking about it. One of those things where like it was you thought that you had to get back in the routine at the time, but maybe five, 10 years from now, you're going to look back and be like, why did I play?

I was like, why did I play a game of football like a week after my heart got shocked back into the rhythm? It can definitely seem like that. And for me and my wife at the time, it kind of felt like that. Oh, you guys got divorced? No, at that moment. What's wrong? Okay. Yeah.

So, but I mean, we literally, I mean, I talked to eight or nine doctors in a 48 hour period that weekend and I was asking every single question, like what can possibly happen? What happens if my heart goes back out of the rhythm during the game? What happens if when I'm practicing tomorrow, my heart goes out of the rhythm? Like every single question. I mean, I had anesthesia. They put me out to shock my heart back in.

And I'm like, what happens if I'm at practice tomorrow and I just had anesthesia today? Like we asked every question. And the doctors gave me the all clear. So what exactly happened? Like what? How did it all happen? Take us through like you just woke up one day and it was no, no. So I was at practice on Wednesday, went out to practice.

I came in and did my workout after my workout. I was in the meetings in the afternoon and I stood up after one of our meetings and I was like lightheaded. You know that feeling sometimes we stand up in your lightheaded and you're like, whoa, you just got to balance yourself, which is normal. So I was like, all right, let's go on. But the next meeting I stood up and I had it again. And I was like, my heart was beating weird.

And one of our assistant coaches looked at me and he's like, you all right? And the little you all right kind of gave me that like, oh, shit, somebody else saw it. Like it wasn't just me feeling like a little off. So I went in our trainers and I was like, hey, my heart's beating a little weird and I'm real short of breath. Can you just check my pulse? And they check my pulse and our trainer looked at me and he was like,

we're going to send you to look at something. And that scared the shit out of you. Because like I was expecting it would be like, yeah, no problem. So then he sent me to our team doctor. They get an EKG on me. He read the EKG and he was like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to send you to a cardiologist right now. And so I'm like, fuck, amen.

So they sent me to the cardiologist and the cardiologist runs the test and he's doing the ultrasound of my heart. And so I'm laying on the table and I've told this story before but I'm laying on the table doing an ultrasound literally the week before we were doing the ultrasound of my son. Yeah. So I'm getting the ultrasound of my son seeing that. And then the next week we're doing an ultrasound of my heart

seeing if I'm like going to live or I don't know. I have no clue. I'm like, am I going to die? And it's scared the shit out of me. And I was so worried and everything and my wife is worried. I mean, it's, and he does the ultrasound and he goes, okay, I'm going to send you to a specialist. And now I'm like, what the fuck, man?

Like why I'm sending five rungs up the ladder here. Like this is real. And they sent me to like a electro physicist or something. And he was explaining to me what was going on. And it was, it was basically just an AFib. I mean, people have AFib all the time. There's people walking around with AFib. Like, so in the end, it turned out to not be the scariest thing,

but it was scary because I'm a professional athlete. Right. And it, we caught it within 24 hours, which meant that that saved a lot of potential issues. Because if you're out for more than 48 hours, you can have blood clot issues. You can have stroke potential and things. But since we caught it so fast, they said, you're okay.

We shocked it back in. And dude, it was, it was, it was crazy. So what I'm hearing is you're a clone. And the real JJ was dead. I mean, the real JJ, why would never retire from football? Yeah, you're, you're right. You're right. You're right.

That's what, that's what happened. I'm all AI. It's all, that's, that's scary though. And, and having like your heart shocked back into rhythm. And then yeah, you're right. Like looking, you're always looking over your shoulder. Like am I going back into it? And then your mind thinks maybe you're going back into it

when you're not to this day, I'll check my pulse. And my wife, I mean, so, so they took me into the hospital to shock it back in the rhythm. And my wife, they're like, would you like to be in the room for it? And she's like, no, I don't want to be in the room. Like, what the fuck do you mean? No.

So I mean, they literally, I mean, took my shirt off, like gave me some anesthesia, put me out, and then put the pads on your chest. Like just like, just like shock you. And then 10 minutes later, 10 minutes later, I'm out the door. And that's about stuff that she broke up with you after that. You're lowest. That's a crazy story that you played like,

and then the Mar-Hamlin stuff happens. That had to have been, you're like, that could have been me. I mean, I know it's different, but still. Yes. So we're sitting in my house watching, it's me and my wife and our son. I'm just watching the game on Monday night. And I went to the kitchen to make some food.

And I turn around and look at the TV and there's everybody stopped. And so I stand and I stood in front of my fireplace, in front of the TV, three feet away from the TV for 45 minutes. I did not move. And it was just the scariest. And then at that moment, my wife had already known that I was retiring and everything.

And that was when she was like, I could not be more happy that you're retiring. Yeah. I mean, it was just scary. Wait, so when did you decide you were going to retire? Months, months ago. Really? Yeah, I knew.

Was it the start of the season or was it before the season? It was before the season. I knew that if I was playing at a level that I was proud of, it was over. Like I've been kind of trying to find that season where I was putting film out there and I was playing football that I was proud of, that I could show my son my final season and say,

look, this is dad. I didn't want it to be an injured season. I didn't want it to be a season where I sucked. Like I wanted it to be something where I could look back on and be proud of. And your retirement, the way you did it was awesome, the tweet. It confused a lot of people. Did you realize that?

No. Yeah, because the tweet was Koa's first ever NFL game, my last ever NFL home game. I think it was just so subtle because people don't retire like that. I obviously, I read it was like, oh, he's retiring. But everyone replying was just like, is this me? You're done? Yeah.

I mean, it was a cool way to do it. Thank you. Were you thinking of other options? So I had thought for a long, because I known for a long time and I was talking to my agent, my wife, and I was talking to my family like, what do you think is the best way to do it? Because I did want to do it with a little time left.

I want to do it with two games left just so that I could say goodbye to my teammates the right way. The fans like, I want to be able to say goodbye. But there was no way in my head that I was like, every way it kind of felt like it was really making it super about you. And I didn't want it to just be like, hey, guys, this is it. So I wanted it to be about my son and my family and about the reason that I'm retiring.

And I didn't know until that morning that that's how I was going to do it. But they sent us the pictures from the game and they had the picture of my son and my wife. And I was like, this is it. It was perfect. I appreciate it. And the video was great that they showed of everyone from your career.

Now, not to be narcissistic, but I was like half watching it being like, are me and PFT going to pop up in this video? I was wondering why no one asked this. It's pretty it's pretty crazy how that video came about. Now, I am massively thankful and will forever be grateful for this video. My d-line coach, Matt Burke,

when I was when I said I was retiring, so we had two weeks to basically put it together. And he just got on the phone and called the first person he knew and told like spread the word like wildfire and people started firing their videos back. And I'm so grateful to him because I mean, I was walking to that meeting. We had hard knocks and hard knocks is literally around 24 seven.

And they were like, hey, queen mic you up for this meeting. And I was like, guys, you've mic me up all week. Like we got cameras everywhere. I've given two speeches to the team this week. I don't want to I don't want to be mic'd up. And they're like, well, we think he's got some special plan. Vance, our D coordinator. And I was like, they don't have anything special, dude.

Like we got a game tomorrow. Like they don't have anything special. And then we went to that meeting and Vance put on the film. And I was like, I was kind of pissed I was watching film. It was my last game. And I was like, just let me go to bed, man. I want to go to bed. And then Burke got up and said the video and he showed it, dude.

And I mean, I don't know, like the emotions that flowed through me. And I wasn't ready for it. I wasn't ready to see my whole career in terms of what it meant to other people. And in terms of thinking about myself in fifth grade and where I ended up and thinking about this is literally it. I'm never ever in my life going to play the game I love. Unless the stealer says a million. It just it blew my mind.

The waterworks started and it couldn't stop. Like it was crazy. See, I'm pissed. We should have been in that. Well, what would your reaction have been if like halfway through it's just, uh, hey, JJ. The whole room would have lost it. The whole room would have died laughing. Oh, we're going to have to remake it and put ourselves in it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there like one week or one game looking back over your career? Like when you were truly at the height of your powers? When you were the peak JJ watt? I've said my favorite three minutes of football that I've ever played was a game versus Tennessee Titans at home in Houston a year where I got a strip sack. I picked up the ball, ran it like 15 yards. I came off the field for one play.

They threw a ball down to the hop to the one yard line. They called me back in. I went in the backfield, motioned out and Ryan Fitzpatrick threw me a touchdown the next play. So like a three play stretch where I did everything I could do on defense and then I went out and scored an offense to me. That was the coolest moment of my career because I felt like I was playing backyard ball. Yeah, that is pretty awesome. At the highest level.

It sucked that we weren't allowed to use you as a tight end and fancy football back then. Yeah. But if I scored, did it count like on team defense or how does that work? No, no, no, no. If they if somebody drafted you as like an individual defensive player, maybe that would count. But you should have been able to start JJ watt as a tight end. Yeah, that's bullshit.

So who gets that touchdown? Nobody. Yeah, no one. Never happened. Yeah, never happened. So the best three minutes of your life. Yeah. Yeah.

Come on. That's great. A race. Damn it. So what were the worst three minutes of football? And why was it when Brett Bielma just didn't run John Clay in the Rose Bowl? Amen, man. I mean, amen.

That was like your Wisconsin football. Tank Carter, the freaking dumbest thing ever. The two point conversion that he blocked. I was sitting like 10 rows up from that. I was like, just run John Clay. How cool was that just until that moment until we lost? Yeah. Like the Rose Bowl is the coolest thing of all time.

The best. Yeah. And then losing sucks. I talked a lot of shit before the game. Losing is the worst. But yeah, what was the worst three minutes? Well, I mean, the worst three minutes is, you know, take your pick of my injuries.

I think my broken leg was was certainly up there. That's a hard question. I've heard like a motherfucker. Yeah. What about you were on the field and Alex Smith broke his leg? Yeah, that sucked. Oh, that's. And I did not know that I was the hit in the reason until years later when they

should like the 360 and they showed the slow motion and everything. It was you? Yeah. Wow. Definitely not a better person than a football player. Yeah. No, not at all. Did that to him?

Not at all. No, it's terrible. I felt bad. I mean, immediately after the game, I texted him everything because the play was crazy because I just assumed he like it was a concussion or something because Karim Jackson actually got the sack and I came in and was he was still up. So I came in and I was coming over the top and then I ran off because we were excited. And I saw him laying down.

I was like, oh, it's got to be a concussion or something because he's really down. And we were all taken in. And then we saw eventually what actually happened. And then years later, somebody told me the story that it's like the exact same yard line as Joe Theisman. It was like the exact same. And then it was also me and Lawrence Taylor, the two or three time defensive play of the years.

Like there were these crazy synergies that blew my mind. It's like the Lincoln Kennedy Cross or something where like Lincoln's secretary's name Kennedy, Kennedy's name Lincoln. But just know that it's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's that field. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a bad field. It's curse. It's not your fault. Are you looking for a new field? Are you guys, is it happening? What's going on over there? I'm looking to move to the side of old RFK Stadium. That's what I'm looking at.

Yeah. And with Lamar, right? I mean, I know you're. No, Lamar has been rumored. Been rumored. I mean, yeah, I've seen a lot of photos. I've seen a lot of photos. There's a lot of photoshopped.

They look good. They look good. We actually, we have a graphics guy and his main job is like make YouTube thumbnails for us. And we just started hitting him up with these absurd photoshop requests. And they take two hours. And they take two hours. Oh my god. We didn't know that they took two hours.

I thought it was. He's just not sleeping because we're just asking like, Devonte Adams in a bear's uniform. All right, I'm not sleeping. He's clocked in about 30 hours over the last few weeks just making Lamar. Holy shit. But no, I mean, I'd like to get, I'd like to get off that field. Everybody's been hurt on that field.

Yeah. Oh, I mean, and just like as a guy who's playing every every. My last two games were the last two stadiums I had to play. And so I've played in every single stadium. Yeah. Yeah. That place could use upgrade. We're grass grass guys.

Yeah. Not true. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you where do you land on that? I am on the, if the weather is great and everything is all the exact same grass, 1000%. I am also a past rusher who needs my footing. So rain, snow, things like that. I do like turf, but I'm, I will not go against my fellow NFL brothers.

Yeah. Very much fighting the fight for grass. So you're thinking about maybe getting into ownership, right? Soccer ownership. I'm big into, yes. Would you be interested in maybe about $20,000 of a team called Swansea that someone might be trying to unload? Because there's you have Swansea.

Yeah, it's just losing money every year. So you want some of that? I'll give it to you. I've literally been looking at Swansea. Oh, okay. Great. So yeah, great. So you can take my shares.

What kind of discount are we looking at? When did you get into Swansea? Because I noticed you were a Swans fan when they were back, when they were playing in the championship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they stink. And here's the one thing I'll say if you are thinking about Swansea, just actually that'd be great because they like every probably six months or so,

I'll just start getting tweets that will be like, fuck you, you American pig. And I'm like, what's this? And then I'll look and it's like a message board and it will be like, Liverpool has LeBron and we have this fat blogger. And it's just like, oh, okay. I guess this riled them up. That's the one drawback of minority ownership.

I mean, because let's be honest, I don't have enough money to buy a majority of any team. So you're the face and they want you to be a part of it partially because of that. And you have a little bit of say here and there. Oh, I have zero say. I have 0.001% share. Like I have zero say. But you get all the shit when they suck.

Correct, correct. So you can have mine. Oh, okay. I'll give it to you for free. I mean, you got the point. I think it's worth nothing now. But yeah, you can have it. Thank you.

I appreciate it. Awesome. I just don't have to do my taxes in November because of it. Are you interested in a professional lacrosse league team? This actually be perfect. The dogs have been playing good. The water dogs. The dogs have been playing good.

That's your team there. They're good. The water dogs. The JJ water dogs. Yeah. It is good. The current ownership is really trashed that place though. Wow, we won a championship.

The banner's fly for the results. How many championships have you won? Zero. Yeah. Maybe some of your owners should have like belittled you a little more. They should have. Maybe I don't respond to positive ramps. Yeah, I should have just had people shit on me more.

Yeah. A couple of coaches tried. Yeah. Are you going to go into the hall of fame as a Texan? This is an honest question. I don't know how any of that works. I see the bus. I think it's baseball actually.

The bus doesn't have a hat. You're not wearing a hat. No. Yeah, I think it's baseball. I think baseball, they make you choose your hat. I just want to trap you into saying like, I don't know if you had something bitter to say about the Texans. No, they just hired one of my favorite teammates of all time.

It was one of the best decisions they could have ever made because immediately, I mean, we've obviously gone through some struggles there in the last few years, but immediately every single old players on board, all the fans are on board. Like you want to fill that stadium up again next year. D'Amico as your coach is immediately doing that. Yeah, he's going to be awesome. So you pretended that you weren't going to make the hall of fame.

That was funny. Let's do a little role play. We'll do David Baker. So he knocks on your door. He's like, hey, JJ, you've made the hall of fame. Are you going to tell us what your reaction like? Let's pretend that this is happening right now. This is another question that I'm fascinated to see.

How the hell does that work? Where is the hotel? Where are these hotels? I think it's at the Super Bowl week. Oh, he's no longer... Yeah, let's just say for the argument that he is. This is David Baker. So David Baker, giant guy, you know, dude,

he puts everybody up in hotel rooms somehow. They're all in the same hotel. It's Super Bowl week. But is he putting up guys that aren't making it? It's Super Bowl. Yeah, everybody. So that's what I'm saying. Like if David Baker is putting up in a hotel,

I'm not crying because I know I'm in. You're going in right away. It's all the finalists. So then they go in a back room and then they have like, I don't know, Peter King orders three dozen pizzas. He doesn't pay for any of them. He stands on tables like, here's why I think this guy should make it in.

And then after the... Darren Sharper. After the... No, was that... Pizza parties are underrated, by the way. They are pizza. What's the reason we had a good pizza party? It's been a little while.

See, again, these are the things that we do for ownership. But yeah, they knock on your door after they take the final vote and then they tell you you made the hall of fame. Congrats. So there's probably like five or six people that don't get that knock. That is crazy. Yeah. So what are you going to do?

Are you going to cry? Are you going to... I don't know. I didn't think I was going to cry in my last game. So I don't know. Maybe I will. Did you cry during the game? So it was, I mean, we got crushed.

We lost 37 to 14. Take your hand card. So first of all... You were crying on the field while you were rushing the passer? So we lost 37 to 14 or whatever. But I got two sacks, which was what I was jacked about, obviously my last game. And with two minutes left in the game,

the 49ers put up a graphic that said, like, congrats on a hall of fame career or whatever. And the fans literally started chanting my name and they took me out. Like they called the timeout and took me out. Damn. So like I was literally like, this is fucking crazy. Yeah.

Fans in an opposing stadium are chanting my name. The opposing team put my face up there and this is it. This is my last time I'm going to walk off the field. So I was, yeah, I was crying. And my son was in the stands. My wife was in the stands. Yeah. It was a cool moment.

So when you get off the field and you take off all your pads and stuff, how quickly did Darren Ravel ask to take your jersey and all that? Come on. You knew he was behind you. I didn't. I swear. Yes, you did.

So this is part of the interesting part of that. So I know he got roasted for that. Rightfully so. He literally cut in line of special needs show. So those kids... He did. He did. We saw the video.

You were making a beeline over to the kids and they were so excited to be here. Oh my god. It's like, you're their hero. And then Darren's like, excuse me, Mr. Watt. This is so, so, so good because this is the most... This is the most funny epitome of what you only get what you see and you immediately make your opinions on it.

So those kids, they had been there literally... I don't... It was crazy. They were there for at least an hour. That makes it worse. So I... No, no. So I had seen them four times.

I had seen them four times and I talked to them every time and it was awesome. They were giving me shit because I'm a cardinal and there for an hour. So I was trying to get them to come to our side. But so then that was like the fourth time. I literally had no... Because Darren and I are buddies.

Like I know you guys hate him and it's... We're buddies. And so... I'm starting to see pain inside of things. Maybe you're not a holocaust. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe you're right. You aren't a holocaust.

So he had flown in. I didn't know he was coming. So he was like surprising me at my last game. That's the worst surprise I've ever seen. So it was... So I did not know he was there. I wasn't looking for him. And then the whole thing that went down.

But I will say this about him. He handed me after the game. He handed me a binder. And in that binder... The face of the binder said daddy's cards. And it said for Coa. And inside was every single trading card from the time I started Wisconsin

until my last game in the NFL. And it was for my son. He was stalking him. It was pretty cool. He was stalking him. And he just told... He basically was like here's my stalking material. Did he have like all the eyes cut out

of all the trading cards? I mean he made a Twitter account for my son when he was born. He's weird. No he didn't. Yeah he did. Did he really? Yeah.

He was like you got a squad on digital rights or something like that. I was like what the fuck dude? Okay. I'll admit. It's very thoughtful that he did. That is a nice gift. That's a nice gift.

We'll give him that. That's a very nice gift. He probably is going to be hitting you up to like... Actually he probably handed it to you because he was expecting you to sign every card. Probably. Back to him. Yeah.

With authenticated... In your son signature too. Grab some grass and put it in. Like yeah. My son signature. So wait how is dad life? How old is your son now? He's three months.

Okay. He is the best. Yeah. It's the greatest. I don't... You know just like everybody. Before you have a son or before you have a daughter everybody tells you how great it is

and you're like sure whatever. But it is truly the greatest thing of all time and I can't explain it to people because you don't understand until you do it. Do you think he had anything to do? Because like I agree with everything you said. You know I cried both times. My children were born.

Do you think though like... Because your heart does grow bigger. Do you think your son maybe had something to do with your heart going out of rhythm? Possibly. He caused that? Possibly. Yeah.

Absolutely. So much love? Yeah. Just too much love. Like I just can't... But he did. The cool thing someday I'll tell him since he was born.

I had in my last 10 games since he was born I had 10 sacks and 10 games. That's insane. Like I literally turned into like a fucking good football player. Yeah. That's what we bet on golfers after they have kids for that exact reason.

And if Elpler I bet on you when to get a sack. I think your first game was having a kid. Yeah. Because it's like something about Elpler having a kid. They're going out there.

They're playing for a sense like a purpose bigger than themselves. Their teammates are usually pretty happy for him because he just had a baby. Yeah. His easiest bet of all time. No question. I mean if you're a receiver or something

the quarterback is definitely throwing you the ball in the red zone. Yeah. Yes. Are you going to let your son play football? If he wants to. Absolutely. I mean his wife...

Give me a stick out. His wife's an incredible soccer... My wife's an incredible soccer player so he could follow in his mom's footsteps and do that. But yeah if he wants to play football he's huge right now. I mean kids are gigantic. How soon because you always hear rumors

of like a giant baby born in Louisiana and like Louisiana State immediately offers them a scholarship. How quickly can somebody offer your son a scholarship to play football? Because honestly right now I'm speaking on behalf of James Madison University. My alma mater is the University of Wisconsin.

I would like to officially offer your son a giant NIL deal to go to James Madison University. So he's got his first offer. Thank you. Coach is going to be like 15 years old I'm going to be sliding into his DMs being like you want to make some sick t-shirts come to Wisconsin. Yeah.

Yeah. Now he's got some of those. He's got some of those and we're going to look at all options. We're going to take all five visits. You know he's going to be a badger. Has to. By the way do you have that stuff? I mean my wife went to North Carolina

and won national championships and it's been a blast to learn about their program. She shits on me with their stats. Like her women's soccer national championship streak is one of the most incredible things. If you go back to like 1982 maybe even a little bit before that and then trace it all the way through like 2006 or whatever it was they won something like 25 out of 27 national championships.

It is unbelievable. It's the best sport's dynasty of all time. I lose every argument ever. Yeah but now we have Luke Fickle. I know. So we have future national championships lined up. We're lined up for the future. What are you doing 25 in a row?

What did you do with the stuffed badger? Because when you opened that gift and you tweeted about it I looked at it and everyone was like what the hell? I was like I want that. Dude how cool is it right? And nobody appreciates it but like badgers. Yeah. So I sent my wife a picture from the facility when I opened it

and she sent one message back. Do not bring that home. But I was like I'm definitely bringing home so right now it's sitting in my garage waiting for a home. I'll take it. No it's awesome. Yeah I know it's awesome. I had been looking I don't know why I was googling this

like a week earlier. I had literally googled what is a badger like as a pet. Not good. Not good. Probably the worst. Very not good. I would say like a skunk number one. Yes very bad.

Very bad pet. Yeah did you name it? A bucky. Yeah it's a bucky. Okay that's a bucky also? Yeah. It's not still every badger? Yeah every badger.

It's actually every badger in the world is named bucky. Have you ever talked to an anemologist? Yeah. Every badger is named bucky. It's like every butler is named Jeeves. Yeah right. Every badger is named bucky. So you imagine him while he was bucky?

Okay got it. Just say his name he'll come run to you. So now for the hard questions. Okay. How pumped are you to try smoking weed for the first time? Pretty excited. Pretty excited. Looking forward to it.

I've got a lot of teammates who are looking forward to that day as well. Yeah. Throughout my whole career. Throughout my whole career. Wait did you never smoke weed? No. Shut up. No.

I believe it. Yeah throughout my whole career I was told guys like yeah after my career someday I'll do it someday I'll do it. And every guy is like whenever that day is I will fly there. I will be there. We're doing it together. So I gotta like throw like a massive party or something. This is gonna be great too because you're gonna be the guy who smokes weed

for the first time being like I think I have a heart attack. And we won't know it. We actually have to take you to the hospital and like oh shit what's happening again. You're gonna get you're gonna get so high. You think you have a heart attack that's how it feels? No some people will be like no that's not. Are you guys high right now? Yes.

All right. Always contact. Yeah we should you should livestream that. I know you probably should. Oh yeah that's probably not gonna be good for any future business whatsoever. I mean when you decide to run for president eventually they're just gonna have that on you. It is legal. It's legal here.

Yeah are you running for president? I am not. Okay. Maybe an exploratory committee. I don't know. Has Larry Fitzgerald hasn't been like here's how you run for office. I'm sure that dude's gonna be a senator someday. Has to be.

Has to be. He absolutely runs this place deservedly so. Yeah but no it's no for politics for you right now. Correct. Well he's only 33. It's a no win. I mean it's a no win. Well unless you win.

Yeah but then you still lose. That's not fine. Well who the hell wants that job? Yeah so that's why I think you should have it because I think anybody that wants to be president or wants to be a politician that should automatically disqualify from politics. That's a good yeah. Yeah. All right so since we're doing hard questions let's pretend that you we do get invited to go

we're not going to speak again but we're going to just be part of the Watt like entourage. Who's the iciest to us in your family? Is there any still residual anger about the oh hey JJ period of pardon my take? The legitimate probably would probably be my grandma. Yeah. Yeah it's probably my grandma just because she is the one who was like what are these people doing? Why are these why are all these people saying these things to you? Because everybody else is kind of who pass.

I mean it is wow like and I've told you guys multiple times like it it called me out on some shit that I probably need to be called out on and it kind of changed my the way that I tack some things and maybe I let it get to me too much at times I'm sure but it I mean I like it. It's a success story because I do think and we were probably very mean. Hanks thinks we should have never let up. That's his biggest critique. He thinks he also claims like three Super Bowl trophies that he had personally. Personally yeah yeah he but he doesn't understand like I remember you did you did kind of change

like you weren't yeah there was a moment where it was maybe like there's a little it was the it was the hard knocks the yeah oh yeah the good ass dude speech all that yeah right and then from that moment on like you changed it's like I whenever someone says like what's dude he's a really nice guy he's well intentioned it's not like a bad thing he just you know yeah I was trying too hard I was just trying too hard and I thought that's what that's what I was supposed to do on the rise like when you as you get more notoriety as I'd never done it before I didn't know I was just trying to be the person like the fucking captain America that I thought you were supposed to be right when I didn't really like I wasn't secure enough in myself to be like

if you're just you that's fine and that's the the beauty because I think as sports fans like all we want is the authentic right from from people and when when it's authentically JJ's like yeah he's just a really fucking good guy and like that's authentically it's like you root for guys like that you know what I mean like you want guys like that to succeed thank you and go to the whole thing I don't think like your heart was always in the right place ironically but but like you were it's not it's not anything bad to be like I want to be a good role model for kids yeah like you were trying to do the right thing yeah it was just like something that there's no way that you can be prepared to deal with all that fame like I always think anybody that gets that

level of fame when they're you know 21 22 23 years old it's gonna fuck with them a little bit yeah like having millions of people have an opinion on you no matter what you do right so yeah you were trying to do the best you could we were trying to do we were dicks we were dicks but then it all worked itself out we grew up too yeah our little brinches hearts they grew through the size except Hank except for Hank which is okay yeah he still hates you yeah he hates your guts yeah it's crazy it's great he when we when we you have to have that yeah I texted I was like yeah JJ's gonna come by it'd be a great interview first interview he's doing after he retires and Hank was like Hank was like yeah can we like maybe run that sometime this summer it's okay we can all we can all grow Hank we

can all grow yeah if I can change and you can change no I y'all can you need haters because once you start to get everybody on your side that's when then that's sure this isn't cool yeah we don't like it I just like how you guys are turning you you guys coming at JJ and that was all me well we changed yeah we all changed JJ PFT and I all changed together it's called growth and we got became better people we came we like we met JJ in the middle he was captain America we were like the biggest troll dickheads in the world and then we found a common ground of like hey maybe we're all decent guys except you Hank yeah I mean listen maybe I maybe I troll a little bit too hard but JJ said something he walked in I've been thinking about it he's like I hope you win with 99 and I

think I'm just gonna ride with 99 for the lottery but he's not gonna win though that's the thing yeah he's not gonna win no he's not no he's not no he's not he's gonna win yes I will wow so if you win with 99 then you have to give all the credit to JJ yeah that's now I'm rooting for him we think that the uh the reason why I still hate you when you can't let go of it is because it's because of that that playoff game yeah where the Jack where Ari and Foster designed those Letterman jackets and you guys all warm up there and then you got the shit kicked out of you by the pagers but Hank why would you be mad about that we got the shit kicked out of us dude yeah I know I'm not they they don't know we people still bring me up like hi hi your stupid Letterman jacket and I'm like

yeah we fucking got crushed like the joke was on us like we took the L what do you want whose idea was it actually um it was a couple defensive guys um it was it was uh Connor Barwin and Sean Cody two two guys really really good locker room guys really with their hearts in the right place trying to do something team trying to do something together and just very very big backfire very no no just get crushed not good not good it is kind of cool though that that Bill O'Brien is going to be up in New England because I always thought he gets a he gets an unfair shake for how things turned out in in Houston I think Bill O'Brien the general manager we need to separate that from Bill O'Brien the head coach and as an ex's nose guy I think he's got like a pretty good proven

track record that's very we got the Texans I think it was like 54 and 48 record over the course of his whatever 10 years or however long that was got to the playoffs a bunch like that's pretty good yeah for the use in Texan franchise I feel like he's actually going to be a pretty good addition to New England so Hank we'll have to start thawing out that icy heart when it comes to yeah former Texans no that's fair that's fair so I got a question I asked Eli Manning when he was on okay I hope that you answer this the way I want you to my idea has always been that every college should get uh one alumni can play on the team after they retire whatever so T-Bo could still be playing for this one yeah if that were the case would you play one year for the Badgers

and just dominate yes absolutely how how much would you dominate that's a great question it'd be fascinating man I think it'd be I'd be pretty good yeah I mean if you're like playing on I think I'd be pretty good yeah how fun would that be it's partially just the knowledge because like in college the kids still have classes they still have all this stuff going on and they're still young and so the schemes can't be as complicated they can't be as like crazy as the NFL where it's literally you're studying it all day every day so there's stuff for like you would just know before the play what's happening and you just go wreck shop yeah is there a player that that you've gone up against where like the first couple reps of the game he just eats your lunch

just like puts you into the turf he feels way stronger way better than you and that you change something up over the course of that game you're like I think I can get past this guy if I do x y and z because it seems to me where if I was a defensive player and I got just destroyed the first play by the guy I'm going to be facing up against all game that would be like I can't beat this guy yeah immediately but you have to you have to move on yes somehow so is there a guy that yes start out against you like that yeah so I think that one of the guys that does that very well is Trent Williams Trent does he has some tricks and things to his game that are just very very smart very vet savvy like things that he can do um one of his biggest things that he does is like

when you fire off the balls defense line you fire off with your hands and he'll just knock your hands down and you'll fall flat on your face and it's not like the most impressive physical feet ever it's just he just knocked you down but man you feel like a bitch and so like so then you get up after that you're like I just looked like an idiot did the announcers on tv just say like look at this guy face first in the dirt like Trent Williams is a beast and like so you're kind of thinking about that but then you have to like throughout the course of the game combat that and you have to know what he's doing and you have to like flash your hands and get him to try it and then you power into him or you have to you have to uh I did it to him one time like you just kind

of like play this game back and forth and that's when you're at the elite of the elite and you're playing against the top of the top those are the level of mind games that you're playing like all right he knows that last pass rush I went with the bull rush so he might try and knock this bull rush down if I do it again so if I flash my hand he's gonna try and knock it down which means then I have it's like chess where you're like okay they move rook to this and I'm it's it's fun and that's when it's really fun so what defensive lineman that you either played at the same time or watched growing up that you like maybe a move that they had that you always tried to do that you couldn't do like like Vaughn Miller's ghost move or something like that Reggie White's hump Reggie

White's hump move is one of the coolest most dominant moves of all time I can't do it like you have to have this unbelievable ability to take all of your weight as fast as you can up the field slam on the brakes on one foot while also simultaneously throwing a 310 pound offensive lineman and then coming back under like the way Reggie did it and the the just efficiency he did it with was one of the coolest things of all time just tossed it just tossed it yeah and he just got them to use their own momentum against themselves but he could do it because of the athlete he was with how hard he could stop on one foot where a lot of people just can't put all that weight into one foot and it's crazy that's the part of the game that's always fascinating because like back to

Trent Williams like when when we asked people like we had we were watching games with Kyle Long a couple weeks ago we're like what what is it that Trent Williams he's like it's all his feet like that's and you don't think about that because you think of strength and you think of speed he's like his feet his balance is always the right spot and it's those little pieces like you saying Reggie White it's the ability to stop that really makes that move. Trent's athleticism is insane like you watch him move in space you watch him on a pole when he comes around the edge like it's incredible you watch Lane Johnson very similar like guy's so athletic so fast I mean he's been known to get out of his stance extremely fast. Not cheating though. No no if they don't call

it it's not cheating yeah that's the way it works but he's so fast and then he beats you to that spot so quickly so you immediately have to change your entire pass rush plan because he's already where you want to be so now you got to be like all right if I go underneath but he's so fast he changes direction so it's those games that are a blast to play. That's awesome. Is there a move that should be named after you? I would I bet if you asked guys the the move that should be named after me isn't even a sack it's more for tackles for loss like it's this little backdoor swim that I do I jab down really hard in the run game when I know that they're going this way because they're going to over commit to me and then I swim backside and I can plant my foot in the ground and fly down

the line and make the TFL it's a it's something that is frowned upon because it's very difficult but when you when you're able to do it it's so successful so Wade Phillips my first year in the league he yelled at me the first three times I ever did I made TFLs in practice all three times and he yelled at me said don't ever do that again I got another TFL don't ever do that again third time he stopped the whole thing and he looked at the whole defense and he said nobody's allowed to do this but JJ can it was the coolest thing ever that's great yeah I was going to say your other move would be like a wrestler with the razor blade just cutting your nose before the game so yeah I should have kept that going I really should have kept that going you were the

most bloody player in the NFL by a significant margin for a couple years yeah I had a helmet that just battered the shit out of my nose it looked badass yeah it was cool it hurt like a bitch but it did look cool thank you so the JJ it sounds like the play is just you you run you figured out a way to run around an offensive tackle in like three steps yes exactly that's pretty cool and the best plays in football are when you can get a guy to do something that you want him to do and use his own momentum against him so for me that first jab was getting him to think I'm going down so he's like shit I gotta catch up so he flies down and now he's out of my way now all I gotta do is take that step back and go same with anything else same with Reggie

White's hump move he's trying to get all the offensive linemen's momentum to go this way thinking he's running a speed rush and then all Reggie does is give him this little arm and he can throw him 10 yards I mean that playing the Super Bowl against the Patriots where he threw the guy 10 yards all he did was use his own momentum against him yeah that's football your receiver is trying to get a db to think he's running deep throw him by and then stop for a comeback so you're definitely an all-time great student of the game is your brother better than you at football at playing football um I believe that Derek Derek's a great football he is full backs matter they do he scored a touchdown in the last game I mean I keep like why don't you use a

fullback more yep yeah that's the other reason why he hates you I sent you that clip I mean that was just did you send that to him that was I mean oh yeah no we had a great great laugh about it which is just phenomenal Derek why yeah dude what a moment what a crazy ass moment yeah but no so TJ so TJ if he if he stays healthy and and I hope he stays healthy and I hope he does he'll break every record I got and he'll absolutely be a better player than me there's no doubt um for a single season for a single like being able to do everything I won't give up that title okay you could always just throw a nut at him too and throw what a nut an actual oh I almost killed him last Super Bowl week yeah that was a his bad big cat was like so yeah we heard it here

a wild censor I mean yeah I mean just he's like you're what you when you said my wife at the time yeah yeah he's like we heard that you're allergic to tree nuts so I got you this bag and big cat thought that was being clever yeah because because the bag was filled with almonds but big cat thought that a tree nut was a separate man from a tree yeah but and then he was like so I've got this bag here I'm just gonna throw this bag of almonds at him I was like wait I'm pretty sure that an almond is a tree nut if you ask him beforehand I've been like where do almonds come from it's like I don't know you just like pick them up off the ground oh yeah no idea no idea yeah and he was like yeah that would kill me I think I think your grandmother probably would have killed us yeah he had killed

him and then almost bullied you off yeah but no you can't you can't be blamed because TJ doesn't even know half of the tree nuts okay good so we were in Italy I took uh like after I got my signed my big contract one of my first off season after that I said I'm gonna take my brothers on a trip so I took him on a trip all around Europe we were in Italy by the pantheon and TJ ordered pesto I didn't know he didn't know nobody knows pesto has nuts in it yeah so TJ literally stops breathing he literally cannot breathe and we'd leave I throw cash on the table we we sprint out there's a line of taxis waiting I'm banging on taxis when they're like take us to the hospital take us to the hospital they don't speak English finally we get a taxi to take us to the hospital

it's an Italian hospital nobody speaks English they take him in a back room and won't let me come so me and Derek are sitting in the waiting room of a hospital in Italy for an hour straight not having any clue if TJ is alive dead he wasn't breathing when he went in yeah and it was fucking crazy dude it was the scariest shit of all time and that all they did was ask him if he had an epi pen and then they gave him his epi pen and I was like you idiot but none of us knew he'd never had a reaction board that was the first ever reaction since knowing he had damn it was crazy I'd imagine was it weird the the three watt brothers walking around Europe where it was everyone looking at you like who are these people it was uh it was interesting uh France was wild because the food

portions are very small in Paris yes small and so we had to order like nine of everything but we I mean again very meathead fashion but we would do some of the coolest workouts I mean all three of us we there was this hotel that overlooked Big Ben in England and we we did workouts in Big Ben we ran down the Champs-Elysees in Paris and we were running there we did a workout where we ran around the Coliseum and so like no offense it sounds like a shitty what the fuck it was I mean but then we also went to every pub in Ireland and just got absolutely hammered off again as we went to the Guinness factory like we we did both we played hard and we partied hard so wait are you gonna are you gonna go to Steelers games this year are you

gonna like start being a fan again absolutely I'm a huge Steelers fan are you gonna go back to being a Packers fan uh no okay good no yeah cuz Aaron Rodgers we can't you can't yeah no just for you I'm doing it for you yeah and we gotta focus all our energy on the Badgers yes we are pouring a lot of energy Luke Vickles building a monster looking forward to that but no Steelers absolutely I'm all in the Steelers D'Amico now with the Texans absolutely all in obviously I have a ton of guys here that I love so the Cardinals I'm watching for sure okay good Texans all right I can I can support that it is funny like when we're talking about our relationship and how you know this all evolved one of the funniest things is being able to like text you whenever the Badgers are in just

some shit bowl game and like there's not many people watching and it's like we're watching yeah we're watching them play in the mail yeah I mean they were they were in the bowl game here I was here and I didn't go did they try to get you out there like hey no I came out I stopped out of to practice earlier in the week but I was like yeah I'm not it's at a baseball field yeah it was it was Oklahoma State there was like no one playing on either side a lot cooler yeah pretty busy that weekend sorry but we got to get you back in yeah we get you to you know some games oh yeah some I'm excited to get everyone pumped about the whole program Luke fickle building a monster I just keep saying that until it's gonna be true I mean he will we have more quarterbacks in the room now

then we've had our entire history ever I don't understand I have no clue what's Scott tolls in not walking through that door we need a new guy I just talked to Scotty for a long time that we good name poll have you uh have you heard from Cliff since he's been over at Thailand so I talked to Cliff right after the season I was saying thank you and all that and I appreciate you know he's I live we'll be friends for life um and he said I said something like at the end like I was like we gotta get drinks together and he was like as soon as I'm done with this little world tour I'll get drinks and I was like oh yeah like Cliff what he's done since since he got fired has been maybe the most relatable thing of all time yeah he got paid how many like 40 50 million dollars guaranteed

and he's just like see you I'm gonna go over to Thailand I'm gonna hit beaches yes that's exactly what everybody else would do yes love it I mean why wouldn't you that's the perfect thing like everybody I'm gonna look for the next thing nah just go do that yeah it's awesome football's gonna be here so is it gonna be tough to like are you gonna try to I mean you can't just show up to the facility next year but like how are you gonna are you gonna try to keep in touch you're gonna like play Call of Duty with Kyler Murray or whatever I haven't played video games so like my whole career I'm the only time I ever played video games was when I would be injured and I needed something to take my mind off of what was going on so that I literally don't ever play video games

except for when I'm hurt so thankfully hopefully okay so maybe once you start smoking weed that's gonna change yeah it's gonna change yeah you'll be all but will it be weird workouts a lot more Call of Duty yeah will it be weird though like not being I would assume you'll stay in touch with everyone but yeah next summer when you're not going to a facility yeah you guys start thinking about this I've never I don't know what people do in the month of August the month of August has literally been training camp for me every single year my whole we got to get you you got to come watch a full Sunday slate with us dude I it looks like a blast as long as I can sit next to Frank I just want to sit by Frank yeah that's what everyone says and then they're like yeah after one game

Frank's uh Frank's New Jersey Devils food reviews are they keep me going yeah I just I just nothing beats a good like food review and he just dumps salt on everything we need to make a JJ Watt style video just because it's so funny whenever we talk to athletes or anyone they're just like yeah I love watching Frank Frank like he has the most fans oh yeah of like celebrities and athletes of anyone it parts oh and somehow like it comes up on my tiktok and like it has like 700 likes there's not a lot of like not a lot of action going on on his tiktok maybe it's on a Twitter but it pops up in mind I watched the whole video every time dude he's a natural some shitty ass brisket sandwich that he had that dude was like stringy and he's just eating it like it's regular and said tiktok

this is not good this I will not eat this again it's the best man did you try to make ribs that one time no oh it's the best he's in like he's in the courtyard outside his apartment complex oh yeah pull the video up yeah the the smoker or it's not even smoker it's a grill that the temperature is at like 600 degrees or something and he puts the ribs down he's like okay now to leave it closed for about 30 minutes and then he comes back and it's just this char no yeah he claimed the sun I think he said the sun was too hot on the grill oh my gosh it's an all time frank video I'm so glad that you're a frank fan oh massive frank fan I'm not joking like I when I talked to like people that you would never expect guys who are in the NFL in the NBA everywhere

they're just like yeah I love watching frank oh it's because it's so like sincere and real and just like you just love him and you're like it's awesome here we go Hank's got the best part is if we wouldn't we tell frank here we go yeah can I touch your phone hey all right oh yeah no just dumb five he's just staring at it pft's right when we tell him like we'll show him this clip and he'll be like okay yeah we'll be like jg wants a big fenders yeah all right okay yeah sounds good he's that's so he'll be like yeah you you know he he kind of tailed off the end of his career yeah he said to your face oh yeah I love it that's like injured too much no it looks like

a blast in that room it has to smell like shit oh it's terrible yes it has to smell what was your career like against the dolphins um we that's a good question I know I've had I think I had sacks and every I think it made me think I'll give you that yeah because I don't think about that a lot but I I know I've had multiple sacks I had two sacks in the game that they had 270 yards rushing against us and beat us 44 to 13 that was after Ryan mallet missed the team plane so that's all I remember about that game he'll probably just be like yeah he couldn't stop the run against us so just bring oh a thousand percent Lamar Miller had like a 98 or a touchdown run you know bet frank remembers it so the day Ryan mallet missed the plane we Ryan mallet to us isn't all the time

what could have been guy because his arm how sweet was Ryan mallets arm unbelievable he threw me a touchdown I caught a touchdown from my mouth it was an insane pass it was one of the best it was dropped in the bucket perfectly he just was too tired he was a sleepy guy yeah yeah his arm was insane I mean that I could win yeah out of the ball yeah I remember when he was at Michigan because they were playing I would think I went to the big house and I was like what the fuck this guy's just got a cannon he's huge I mean he's tall yeah it's very skinny but very tall um all right so this has been awesome we appreciate that I have one last question row back question promo code take I think you wear row back RHOBACK.com if you don't we have some holos for you great golf

stuff awesome you've been golfing a lot yeah row back.com we're in the joggers right now promo code take for 20 off this is a tough question and I don't even want to ask it but I'm gonna ask it because we've had a history where we've mended our ways um oh I know where this is going I think Taylor and Will yeah how can we mend this they were here earlier I told me scram yeah and they listened because they're scared of you I think they might have worked out at exos this morning uh my wife was up there working out oh um I don't know I mean I I've never met Will as to my knowledge I don't know anything about Will I mean I have no problems with Will obviously I mean Taylor and I have had our beefs on the field and uh I mean he literally spit on my brother so

yeah oh okay that's the part that he doesn't tell he left that part out oh he said it in his tweet he said like he said TJ like I've spit on you before I've I've said some things okay well I'm on your side yeah I mean yeah okay when you spit on a family member it gets a little different yeah so we never did that just in the record shows wait I tried to kill him with knots but yeah so he spit on your brother and then he stalked your wife at the gym yeah yeah on your side yeah all right glad we cleared that up he tried busting no they are good guys I assume at some point yeah it will settle down and you can you can go go hang out with him Will is a very very good guy yeah I'm sad that he's not getting your 10 I think he should get your 10 yeah he got screwed

yeah I mean it's because of gambling like I mean yeah who are we kidding here right who are we kidding here right that that that that's a whole other conversation for another day I think he's too good at gambling is he good at it I don't know is he good no that's what he should go with he's not too good at gambling I'm sorry you guys are good at it too every stadium has a sports book in it yeah that's true you can take money we can't yes yeah but yeah no Taylor's a good guy too but yeah he shouldn't yeah yeah no I'm sure I bonded with him over drinking and puking in a trash can together so nice he's you know they mean well what were you drinking uh it was it was actually jungle juice so it was bad it was bad it was really bad it was disgusting so but um yeah this has

been awesome man we appreciate it we do you should so we're building a whole new office in Chicago and we have like a big basketball court that we're gonna have in the middle of it yeah um actually you guys are both moving to Chicago yeah we're all we're moving the whole operation it's kind of your buddy's dude perfect yeah um but we'll have to have you come out because I saw I saw a tweet that you were 50% from the line in high school basketball I mean that best I could dunk I could fall I could dunk and I could rebound I mean I was not doing shit else that's awesome I don't know if you like there was a clip going around a couple weeks ago of me playing and it was the first time I had seen it and I was like Jesus dude that is the ultimate like scrappy grinder sucks acid

I think the caption was like JJ Watt playing basketball is exactly what it was to a T per no jump shots whatsoever just like when you're asking the people to box them out so we'll get you to come up and we'll have you shoot 100 free throws oh that'll be fun yeah absolutely how many what's the over under it's gotta be 50 yeah it's gotta be 50 I'm gonna take the under that's I would take just pure fatigue I think I would take the under I mean I'm gonna start that's a shit you're gonna be fat by that you're not gonna be working out what if you get real fat that would be hilarious it'd be awesome that would suck then you'd have to move back to Wisconsin you guys look good by the way oh thank you I got super show abs can you see I was the super labs I heard

yeah there you are yep there they are really nice really nice photoshop that yeah really nice yeah wait till you what will happen and I will say this that when once your son eats real food yeah I eat all my kids I just eat everything they eat I eat it before they can even eat it I mean when you smoke weed and then you have yeah kids food my kids will just be sitting down for dinner and they'll be like a pizza I'll be like you're gonna eat that and I'll eat it before they can even have a bite how many of the donuts do you eat every week I usually have like two I was gonna say one and a half that was a lie that is impressive yeah have you ever seen that like meme though where it says like this many donuts are in a coke yeah then you make you feel way better by yeah exactly

and it's also like me and my son go and get the donuts and he loves it and he's called being a good dad yeah and there's there's like a whole tray of them and he goes every single time he goes and just sticks his finger into like a random donut I'm like don't like pretend we didn't do that scar scurry him away if you have a son you just put anything on your son like I'm so like we have a group chat with all my buddies and everything and they're like you didn't text back in eight hours I'm like well I'm sorry I have a family yeah right right exactly so it's a perfect perfect fall fall guy you basically son to fall fall guy yes perfect it was him it was him but yeah that would be funny if you got fat it would be funny I agree that would suck do it for like I don't want to do

it for like a year you've never been I tried for 10 days I tried for 10 days thinking about it like your entire life you've all you've been in great shape thank you so much we appreciate it um and yeah anytime you want to come on my pleasure we're current guests and we'll be at your hall of fame yep not Hank though congrats yeah maybe if he gets 99 yeah that's true he won't he'll never get it he'll never get it that interview with JJ Watt was brought to you by our great friends over at C4 energy I'm drinking C4 energy right now I have a C4 energy for breakfast almost every single morning perfect way to wake up go to the gym or if you need in the afternoon sometimes you get the gym in the afternoon leaving work no problem pump a C4 and your afternoon workout is

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we're gonna have a participant in this year's Super Bowl on the show and also a little bit of an interesting different type of interview with a special extra interviewer so get excited Friday show we're gonna do all of our props we'll do let's just say right now I think everyone should come loaded with like four props I've got a palooza I've got one I'm doing no props you're doing props I can't do props you're doing props you give me one prop eagles to win Super Bowl tears over over in tears yeah okay how about how about find out we can we can ask the guy that we're about to interview okay okay okay yeah we'll get we'll talk about that we'll talk about that yeah props hi PMT crew I'm going to my first Super Bowl party at my boyfriend's family's house they are huge

eagles fans the only problem is that I don't know much about the eagles and I haven't watched any of their games this year when I would go to my boyfriend's apartment on Sundays he would make fun of me because I would be napping by halftime what's something I should say about the eagles that sound like I actually watched the games in this type of scenario I feel like you can't you can't pretend they'll sniff you out immediately it's like in an avatar when they showed up at the other avatars places and they're like this this human is not from amongst us they'll know they'll know immediately so you just have to show up and and be prepared to see some things that you will probably never be able to get out of your mind for the rest of your life but just know that this

is this game is like international waters you can't hold anything that his family does during the Super Bowl against him for the rest of your dating life yes I also think this is um so Super Bowl everyone loves it everyone gets involved squares some people call boxes you can do that with if you have at least 10 people and I think they probably have a party of 10 people it's very easy you're probably saying don't you need 100 100 squares 100 boxes no you get uh 0 through 9 put it in the hat everyone pitches in you can go half time and full game and you just so say you get say you get the number five it's you adding both scores but but don't do too don't care too much about the squares yes no I know but I'm saying like this is a fun way if you maybe host the squares

because because if they're not thinking about it you can be like hey everyone want to throw in 20 bucks we'll have some fun so it's very easy so if you have the number five and at halftime it is 18 to 17 the number five wins because it's 8 plus 7 but if the chief score and don't get a square no you you can't so that's actually a good point because this is actually a rule for squares and boxes in general don't be the person rooting for that yes on every score you have to like it's more of a at the end of the quarter be like oh shoot I got the number don't when when it's three nothing two minutes into the game don't be like oh I hope the score stays three nothing that's my number because everybody else in the room is also betting on this too right so everyone

could be having that conversation but you're the only one choosing I think you guys are forgetting that this is a huge house of ego oh no we know we know I know this I know this atmosphere and you the squares have to be like so minimal because no I yeah I was saying if she doesn't like follows she can just host it for 20 bucks and just be like hey everyone want to do this fun yeah right yeah that's good right because then you've participated in the party right I don't I don't and maybe don't even like if you win just be like don't even say anything no I think your role is basically to be like an emotional support girlfriend to your boyfriend at this game because your boyfriend is going to be dealing with anxiety he's going to be dealing with like

sheer explosive bouts of happiness possibly dark depression all in the same like 15 minute period so your job is basically to like see your boyfriend how they're reacting and to make sure that he doesn't do anything totally stupid just mimic what you're what your boyfriend yeah just be a mirror yes maybe rub his back but mimic it to 50% yes because you don't like if he's going crazy you don't go crazy you go 50% of that yeah you just show if it's something bad's happened you show your displeasure without like really getting in your face but it's like let me let them have the moment but like it be supportive of their moment also just as a rule don't like everything you see us do on a live stream do the opposite because I'm thinking about like if I were invited to a big

Eagles if I had no no money on the game and I was invited to a big Eagles party and like the Eagles lost I would definitely be like well can't they win the game next week just to fuck with everyone don't do that don't do that do that don't be like well the Super Bowl they have these every Sunday right don't do that well specifically you because you're you're the worst yeah I mean that's yeah well because I mean it's just that that those moments when you have like extreme tension in a room being the guy to puncture the balloon is is a thrill but don't do that I think you should show up and you should have a bunch of songs written anytime the Eagles screw something up and you should sing those very loudly and you should talk about what a bad gambler you are and how

even when the maybe the chief score touch and be like I'm never going to win my bet yeah and make it all about you in that situation I think that would that would be a big hit don't do that don't do that okay hello big daddy cat pf mr t corporate Henry billy mcfootball and always professional jake I just recently started dating this guy and I invited him to come watch the Super Bowl with my family he said yes of course but should I cut him some slack if he won't if he wants and goes to a Super Bowl party with his friends hmm I actually think Super Bowl well Super Bowl parties are kind of not overrated but like I don't think it's one of those ones that you have to like if you got invited if you like this girl I would go to that because it's you're at the end of the day you're

just watching the game you know what I mean the party aspect is really who just has the best food is kind of what you decide and if your team's not in it like it's not like you need to be like sweating this game correct with your friends it's it's more of a social gathering right right I'm going to choose to answer this question as Billy because she did address Billy so here's what Billy's advice like Brokey you should just brose before hose yeah like it's kind of messed up girls think that they can invite you to their family and make you watch the Super Bowl with them but it's meant to be an XY chromosome game and so just hang out with boys just like get the boys together like why are women always trying to make me not be a boy that was Billy football that was Billy football

good job great job hi hard-bodied PMT gang congrats on the Super Bowl abs my husband and I have been married for four years and I'm wondering if it's normal for boys to take baths my husband has never done this before but it started to over the last couple months when I ask what why he says it is for recovery my baths are not ice baths and he works a desk job yeah he also won't tell me what he does while while he's in there he jacks off he takes his phone he's jacking off in 3d he's got two screens and locks the door for around 45 minutes a couple times a week yeah what is he doing he's shitting bathing jerking off then maybe finishing with a shower maybe all four at the same time that's the grand slam that actually I'm gonna defend him that is recovery to lock the

bathroom door and just be like don't come fucking bother me I mean you should be able to do this too like you should take your own baths just go in there lock the door baths are all bring the electric toothbrush no baths are fantastic a good bathtub okay I agree if you get a big bath tub it's it's an incredible it's a lifestyle thing you'd instantly relax I'll take an ice bath some not an ice but but like a cold water bath sometimes if I've just done like strenuous exercise but as far as hot baths go in like a sad small bathtub they never live up to the height I'm I'm also a big I'll do like I probably take like three baths a year and they're always at a hotel I don't know why I don't really like taking a bath at home why wouldn't I

at the hotel you get the nice tub yeah you get the bigger tub yeah yeah right I'm always in fit if you weren't if you see a giant tub like I will I will find a reason to bathe in it yes hi guys special shout out to big cat soon to be father of three congrats my husband listens to your show all the time you may or may not know that the 25th anniversary of the critically a film crit oh critically acclaimed film titanic is happening this week first boob oh a lot of people's first boobs my first you remember really yeah remember that segment we used to do for like two weeks what was that my first boob no it's a thousand percent my it was it was a wild thing it was too late for you to have that my first boob was uh braveheart I think oh braveheart would

make sense that probably was that probably is right around mine that's like 10 years old yeah yeah like that yeah I also remember the Eagles first Super Bowl that lost to the Patriots I just searched Pamela Anderson boobs in terms of save search off hell yeah google images don't remember that documentary because that made me feel bad about watching that movie a lot okay Pamela Anderson's yeah it kind of like ruined her life and I was like well I watched yeah you and Tommy Lee a lot I took down the family computer multiple times with viruses trying to get that those are my first internet boobs okay the 90s remember yeah remember when there was just one computer for the entire family yeah 90s were a wild I'm watching porn on this

dad's probably watching porn on this like yeah it just no it did become like the family porn hub and I remember when we got a virus and my dad was like what happened and I'm like I have no idea it was Pamela and Tommy Lee I think most most families when the computer got taken out with the virus nobody really chose to look too hard into it because they all thought that it could have been them yeah right so it's like oh the computer's dead again gotta get a new one I gotta get another electronic robot to jack off to yeah and then yeah and then every everyone's mom just used the computer to play solitaire yeah uh should we finish this or is that enough on this we could do one more what was it it was a question I don't know we just started talking about boobs

yeah titanic it's coming out again I also saw he got game uh with my grandmother in the room that was a that was that's awkward yeah that was awkward because that was an awesome scene there was a those were big boobs they were massive there were four of them I went I went to go see wolf of wall street on christmas day this is a few years ago whenever it came out went into the theater and in the theater was like two grandchildren with their grandparents and the plane scene happened oh and the grandmother like picked the son up grandfather picked the daughter up they start walking out of the theater and the grandmother was crying oh that she just exposed her grandchildren to that it felt but again like just do a little bit of research yeah

do a tiny bit of research also they're gonna have to it's about a guy who went to jail your grandchildren are gonna learn eventually about cocaine and strippers and yeah airplanes and we lose tossing yeah it happens part of life yeah wait what was the question though about she basically just got tickets to titanic onto rule sunday no yeah not not gonna happen not gonna happen just light them on fire what the fuck what yeah that's yeah bad that's on you I'm embarrassed that you wrote into our podcast rule sunday is not it's not just because it's Super Bowl Sunday which is obviously a very big deal but it's also a it's the funeral for the football season it's the last chance to watch football it is so it's it's a sad day it's a morning day

monday after Super Bowl is always just one of the most depressing days we're like now we're as far away as from football as we can be now that's when that's when me and big cats bodies usually start to give out on us just right after season we start to do stupid stuff that's where we got arrested at the dog show yep like first week back because we don't know what to do with ourselves well thankfully we've grown up a little bit and we realized hey we could take vacations that's true like that that is a nice twist that we've put into our brain that's like we do deserve maybe we're taking three days off yeah credit to Hank for showing us the way on that yeah Hank's taking three months off what's up potato chip cat beef ft billion pig skinneth and honk

my boyfriend insists on muting the commercials on every sports game we watch and often muting commentary because he doesn't need to hear extra noise we're hosting a Super Bowl party this year and he's been a big muter recently uh does he have grounds as the host to mute at his discretion otherwise how pissed do you think our guests will be yeah can't do that can't do that you can't mute the commercials you can't do that I respect the move though that's a big time grandfather move my grandfather was elite at muting commercials yeah he'd hit it like before the commercial come on and then he'd take it off right as it came off going back we would watch braves games and immediately boom yeah going into it like that's an old person move I think I'm not gonna let these

advertisers get in my head no but you can't mute the Super Bowl you also said muting some of the commentary sometimes oh that's romo yeah okay yeah he probably hates romo so shut up him for that I do like some of my or jim family does like to do the DVR pause the game a little bit and then sync up to the radio that's I like that I like that's old school you get you get the you get the local broadcast yeah usually like family's big in the radio a former player that's that's kind of drunk on the air you I like doing the commentary I like that yeah that's it okay oh yeah there's one more you memes you got one more okay wait the memes just texted to me this is for this one's actually for big cat oh okay uh dear dear Dan cat has Hank ever gotten the lottery ball correct he is not

we'll find out because we taped it we'll find out if he gets it he has not gotten it right he's not here right now I would I did have someone asked me at the gym if he has ever gotten it that makes me chuckle every time yeah um because it's just like even though Hank wasn't there with me I know that he feels it that's wild timing that somebody said that to you at the gym at the gym and right between reps but you had to make sure that you you let people know when you said it's a full story it kind of sucks because I was benching and he came up and asked if I needed a spot and I felt like a little bitch and I was like no I'm good dude I'm good like I'll die on this bench congrats on the benching thank you but it like it was kind of presumptuous of him to ask if I needed a spot

and then he followed up with the head yeah but asking another man if they need a spot so I was I don't think I was struggling with it it's emasculating it was it really hurt my feelings I remember was on the was on the bar like 185 I was doing it fine I was not struggling yeah I was not struggling I think he just wanted to talk he wanted to talk to me but that's not it hurt my feelings you got to find a better opportunity like in between sets be like how many more how many more sets you got yeah right by the way has Hank ever gotten the lottery ball correct he's listening to this right now and and I hope you know guy I we we had a nice conversation afterwards you seem like a nice guy but I hate your guts if anybody ever offers to spot me at the gym I'll kill

you yeah yeah I yes I will kill you yeah so don't try it yeah all right so let's kick it to ourselves in studio to see if Hank is gonna win the lottery ball machine which he never will okay end of the show uh it's still February 3rd we're still guessing all these numbers Hank has still not gotten it Hank have you gotten it actually what the number lottery ball machine yeah okay uh numbers 69 69 I beat you on that one I did beat you on that one 23 20 I mean I beat but I beat you on you saw but I beat you on that one I beat you on that one so what's your number you saw that it almost hit last time 96 96 sorry what was your number hey 17 interesting wait what did I say say it again 23 I said 23

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