Pardon My Take - JJ Watt, Sixers Get Whomped By The Celtics, Max's Soul Patch Reveal + NBA/NHL Playoffs

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

The Celtics have killed the process. Jayson Tatum's incredible Game 7. Max joins with his fresh new soul patch and we talk about Embiid/Doc/Harden failing yet again (00:00:00-00:43:55). Lebron James is insane and the Lakers have a date with the Nuggets (00:43:55-00:52:37). The Knicks tried and Heat/Celtics is on (00:52:37-00:59:11). Hockey playoffs and we're now Krakheads (00:59:11-01:02:56). Who's back of the week including Ja Morant and Big Cat is now a Father of 3 (01:02:56-01:27:36). JJ Watt joins us in studio to talk about his purchase of Burnley, meeting Frank the Tank, Missing Football and more (01:27:36-02:16:57). We finish with an update on the Lottery Ball machine after Friday's demise (02:16:57-02:27:45).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have JJ Watt in studio, and we have Sixer Celtics, Game 7, Max FaceReveal coming in the first five minutes of the show or so, so make sure you subscribe to the pardon my take YouTube. PFT is remote, Hank is already smiling like a motherfucker, will get to the Celtics, they deserve their accolades, Jason Tatum was incredible, we'll talk some more NBA playoffs, hockey playoffs,

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come in with his face reveal, but PFT, I'll start with you obviously, holy shit, they kicked the shit out of him and Jason Tatum was absolutely sensational. Yeah, Jason Tatum rocked tonight, the last five quarters that Jason Tatum has played has been, you know what, how much credit do we get for spurning Jason Tatum, I think the real winner in this series should be us for saying that Jason Tatum is the best player on the court and he needs to get a dog, we were dog, we're used dog salesman adoption counselors and we set up a tent outside Jason Tatum's house and he adopted a dog from us, he's got a dog now, he's officially, Jake you're kind of like the barometer on this,

is Jason Tatum him? I guess Eastern Conference Finals is the battle for him. Yeah, I think he, yeah, who's more him, I do, he is an AWL I assume and our take was very consistent in that I think Jason Tatum is a phenomenal, phenomenal basketball player, top five player, there are times when he floats and isn't aggressive and it drives me insane because this is the type of guy that should go and take a series and that's exactly what he did, he in the last game six fourth quarter into game seven, he told everyone on that court I am the best player here, there is nothing you can do to take this series away

from me, the MVP is on the other side of the court, it doesn't matter, this is my moment and he did it and he completely captured it, he was like so, so good, he was doing everything I think he had what 51, 13 and five, it was a hell of a performance, most points in a game seven which is crazy, there was actually a part of me that was worried that he was credit to the Sixers for sucking so bad that he couldn't go for MJ's 63 record in the playoffs because if the Sixers had like been even put up a little bit of a fight and he had stayed in the rest of the game, he was that unconscious for the entire game and he proved that he deserves this stage and it's also nice knowing that after you say, humbly I'm one of the best players in the world,

like you know that the spotlight is going to be on you after you say that because if you come out and you drop like a, say a Joel Embiid or a James Harden, just throwing a couple of names out there, people will roast you, he did the opposite and went even further and was unbelievable. So the opposite of Jason Tatum, what's the opposite of him? Me, me, I mean, it's the me, it's, it's, we're not going to talk Sixers until we get maxed in here, but it is those two guys. But I was going to say, I was going to say Doc Rivers actually, because Doc Rivers has now, he's lost 10 game sevens, five more than any other coach. It's the most in NBA history. He's the king. He's got 10 game seven losses. He's lost the last

five game sevens in a row by an average of 14 points. So if Jason Tatum is him, Doc Rivers is, he's got that doc in him. Yeah. Yeah. I want to, I want to talk about Doc Rivers. I want to wait to, let's not talk any six or still maxing things because we need to punish him. He needs to, he needs to know these. Hey, forget I said that. Yeah. I'm going to run those stats back because I, I went knuckles deep in stats tonight. So I want to make sure that I, I confront big max with those stats. Yeah. Cause I have a doc Rivers take that I need to get off that I want to wait till max is here so he can hear it. I also want to say congratulations to Hank. You deserve it. Hank, you've, you've had some really tough times as a Boston sports fan recently.

So, you know, I'm, I'm happy for you. And thank you. I, I wish I was there in person to see you gloat. I wish you had a soul patch. It would be good for the show if you had a soul patch anyways, just strictly in terms of downloads. I know that you're a team guy, you're a business guy. If you want us to make more money, it would be nice if you had a soul patch, but I understand that you're a little bit selfish and might not want to do that, but congratulations Hank. I'm very happy for you. Yeah. So let's, let's hear from Hank. You got to feel great. You got to feel great about going forward. I feel fantastic. Yeah. This team found something in the fourth quarter of game six. They kept it going into game seven.

The garden was rocking chilies, you know, not to make this about me or make this about the show. Obviously the team is the team, but chilies, great sponsor, great friend, great advertiser. They reached out. They said, we want to celebrate you on winning the lottery ball. So we're going to cater lunch for game seven. It came at halftime. It came at halftime. And after halftime, they won on, what was the third quarter? 41 to 33 to 10. It was 33 to 10. I was nervous. I was feeling anxious. James Harden and Jo and Bita times in the series played dominant. They seemed unstoppable in the games that they won. They kind of were showing a little bit signs of life in the first half. I was getting nervous for the second half and then that third quarter put everything to

rest, made everything easy. It was all fun and games, watching Max and all the Philly fans fight with each other was just funny to watch and beautiful to see. And the only thing I got worried about was in the last four minutes when they didn't take the starters out. Yeah. Then Jalen Brown like hurt his, he didn't look, it looked like pushed over. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, no, the Sixers had no answers for the Celtics pick and roll. It was, it was a joke watching the Sixers offense in that second half similar to the fourth quarter of game six. They were showing doc too. It wasn't that. It was probably early in the third quarter and they showed some sideline shots of doc and he just looked like he, he wasn't even trying to

coach anyone. He was just looks defeated and they're only, this was when they're only down like 10, 12, 15. Yeah. And I agree with you. Like the first half, it felt like the Sixers like, oh, maybe they'll do something here. And you know what? Let's bring Max in because I want, yeah, let's bring them in. I'm telling you, I just want to say for the record, it was kind of selfish of Hank right there. It's remind everybody that he got the lottery ball on Friday. I completely forgot about it because on Friday, Big Cat had a kid. So congrats, Big Cat. Thank you. That's huge news for the show. Thank you. That's that's what everybody should remember from Friday is the birth of Big Cat's third child, father of three. What an incredible day. Great job, Big Cat and

great timing, completely overshadowing whatever it is that Hank accomplished, probably something totally meaningless earlier that day. Who cares about the lottery ball when you bring a fucking life into this world? But I was going to be my who's back. So I'll talk about that then. But I also will say we have something planned for the lottery ball. So listen at the end of the show. We have, we do, we have something planned. We have, we have something planned for the future of the lottery ball because there were a lot of people being like, what do I do now? This was, you know, Hank, not getting it was the best. Oh, you're scared of me catching up. No, we talked about this. Don't act all fucking he PFT. He's being the work like, no, I'm actually

trying to be like, hey, you won. You deserve it. And he's doing that little smile where he's like, you know, everything goes my way. I'm going to, I treated it like Max or Hank is the only person in the world who like, you know, like the old, when the least get eliminated, everyone posts like the golf bag. Hank is the only person in the world where his team wins and he golfs more. He keeps golfing more as the, as the team wins. He's got his golf back right there. All right. Max is coming in. So Max, no one else. I want to see his face. Except me. He's so angry that face. Max, let me see that face. All right. So put on your headphones. Put on your headphones. Sit down. He's got a mask on right now. We have not talked about the sixers yet. So we're going

to unload on you being the biggest loser of all time. You're a loser. Let's see Max. All right. Dump him out. I just want everyone to know at home, if you have children watching this, Max has some type of rash that we found out. It was like basically, Hank, don't post this till tomorrow because we're trying to get people to watch YouTube. It was basically like digging up old fossils and you don't know what the fuck you're going to find. Turns out underneath, you know, thousands of years of sediment, there's a really bad rash on his face. So not that bad. The thing about Max though is he would beat your ass. And also the thing about Max is I do think that his facial hair will grow back quickly. He seems like a very

hairy man. I don't know. Yes. He also just set the stage. He wanted to just do the electric razor where he still had stubble. I made him do the full shave because it was like a hero big cat. Hero big cat. Do you want to say what I also said? I offered for Max. There was a moment, memes could attest this. I said to Max, I said, do you want me to take a little heat off you and shave my face too? And he said, there's no way that's big of you. We're not going to do that. I never had the chance. You said no. Why don't you take him up on that? Because I know how this goes. You say like yes to him and he goes, I'm not going to do it. And he does that like little smile. No, I would have done it because it's a win-win. It's a win-win for you. It's a win-win for you,

but I guess Kanya, I guess we'll never know. All right, let's see. All right, go ahead, Max. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's Chumlee from Ponzias. You are Chumlee. Chumlee. Billy, I was wondering what he looked like. Chumlee. Take off the neck thing because it's hiding some of your fat. Max said he hasn't shaved his face since freshman year. I don't know why this keeps going out over me. Oh my God. Since freshman year. Freshman year was the last time he shaved. Oh, Max looks like a roadie for the biscuit. Oh, yeah. He's like a shitty character in an SNL skit about like juggalos. You're like, yeah, if Horatio Sands played Fred Durst in a biopic.

It's his birthday next week, by the way. Oh, happy birthday, Max. Yep, thanks. The rash doesn't look as bad once you put lotion on it. Yeah, I had to put some lotion on it. All right, so let's get the... Oh my God. Let's all move past what his face looks like. I can't. It's bad. And let's talk about the game, Max. Do I still have the toilet paper on my face? No, you don't. You don't. I also cut myself. Oh, man, you look so bad. You look so bad. Max, have you seen a picture of your face to your mom from Mother's Day? I have. And what did she say? She said, I'm sure it doesn't look as bad as you feel right now.

Oh, it looks worse. All right, so let's talk about the game, Max. You're a loser. Like, I'm a loser. PFT's a loser. PFT also looks pretty bad. PFT looks pretty bad. I didn't want to give me any either. No, no, I look bad. I look bad. And this is not... I think it's a bad angle of your camera, too. I'll say that. Yeah. No, I do look bad. I walked in. I saw my mom as I came out about to record the show, so you shut the fuck up and you would say, God damn, work for the next two hours. And she was like, what is that on your face? I didn't tell her that I was doing it so she could notice, but it's not as bad as Max. Like, I'm flying under the radar compared to what's

going on with Philly. Yeah, like what we're seeing. People watching on YouTube will see it clearer for PFT. We're a little blurry, so it doesn't look that bad right now. It's bad. That looks like a sound guy. He looks like someone that doesn't listen to the podcast and just gets assigned to us for a week. Yeah, a sound guy. He looks like an extra on Portlandia. He just... Yeah, you look like a roadie that maybe traveled with like Temple of the Dog, not even... You weren't even like Pearl Jam or Nirvana. It's so wide. It's like a new metal rap. I thought you were talking about my face. Also, you look like a 7-Eleven clerk that works in like a college town, but you're a townie. You're not affiliated with the university.

PFT, you look like you work in a head shop. Yeah, I do. Hell yeah. Yeah, man. That's one of my favorite things. Deal or no deal. You're the comic book guy from Simpsons. Yes! This is great. Let's talk about the game. Let's talk about the game. No, I would rather talk about this than the fucking game. Forget about Max's face. Max, you're a loser. Just to go back through the last two weeks, as we know there's been a lot of show, there's been a lot of history. Yes, I said game three was not a must win. A couple of things that PFT and I did write about. Wrong. Wrong. Not dead right about it. No, we said if you lose game three, you lose the series. Exactly how that went.

We predicted it. We told you game three was a must win. You didn't believe us. You also said, Giannis, you're like, well, the bucks, when they won the title, they lost by 40 in game two, and then Giannis took them and won that series and won the title. And you're like, why can't it be Giannis? Giannis in the game seven against the Nets went for 40, 13, and 5, and B tonight went for 15, 8, and 4. Wait, sorry, four was the turnovers. He had one assist, not four. So four turnovers, one assist. He was bad. He was so bad. He was bad. Also, Max, I've got some other stats here. Doc Rivers has now lost 10 game sevens. That's 10, one zero game seven, double digit game sevens. It's five more than any other coach.

He's lost five in a row by an average of 14 points in each game. Max, Doc Rivers, I gotta assume that you want him, you want him gone like yesterday, obviously, Monty Williams is lingering out there. But but first, you should have to reckon with the fact that me and big cat were right. We were right. I would go as far to say games two, three and six should have all been must wins. And you did not make the must wins. But if you want any of those games, you win the series. By the way, PFT, so my Doc Rivers take that I alluded to earlier. So there's a lot of people going around saying Doc Rivers blown all these leads. Unfortunately, it's muddying the water because people are listing all his blown leads, and they'll count like one O in a series as a

blown lead. That's stupid. No, two ones like three one is a blown lead. So here's the stat that everyone should if you're if you want to talk about Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers is now 17 and 33 straight up with a chance to clinch a series. So that means, you know, he was O and two in this in this series when he had a chance to clinch the series. 33 losses is the most of any coach in NBA history with a chance to clinch a series. So 34% when his team has a chance to clinch a series, that's the stat. Don't don't don't don't don't take like a great stat and make it worse by being like, look, Doc Rivers has blown 12 series lead and then list like a one O or two one that that makes that lets other people be like, no, that shouldn't count. And then you get an

argument, just say 33 losses when he's had a chance to clinch a series. No, I agree that like a one O lead is not a blown series. But I but I still think that having 10 game seven losses, yeah, which is the most of that. That's a legit stat. Yeah. And he's got was he have like, I forget how many three one series leads that he's blown. He's blown. I also consider a three two lead. I consider that a blown lead. It's not as bad, obviously, like that happens from time to time, but he's got a bunch of those. You can actually look up on on like, whatever the modern equivalent of Buzzfeed sports is like a top 10 list of Doc Rivers most epic series collapses and they're just filled with three one three two come from ahead losses that he's had.

So I do want to hear from Max because Max has been like, I don't know if you know this is big gap because you've been you've been looking at me while you've been saying all these things. And I've been talking to you but Max has just been facing like the window, like not even looking at anybody in this room, not even acknowledging reality. So Max, will you please just acknowledge reality and let us know what's going through your head right now? I mean, there isn't much more to this process is dead. It is officially dead. It's over. Doc Rivers is gone 100%. James Harden is gone. James, James Harden. We just forgot to bring up this part because thanks. Yeah, let's know. I mean, I don't it sucks that PFT nine no ball so well. And we're unbiased here.

We told you James Harden as the series goes along doesn't get better. He gets worse. Yep. Yeah. Game 60 scored 17 points. Game or sorry, game five. He scored 17 points. Game 60 scored 13 points. PFT is 13 more or less than 17. It's less. Okay. Okay. So so he got worse. And then game 70 scored nine points is nine. Not even double digits is nine more less than 13. This this was the perfect storm. This is like what are those two ingredients that you had together to make your stupid little volcano and science fair. It's like baking soda and vinegar like putting those that's Doc Rivers and James Harden combining together for what should have been an obvious game seven loss. James Harden had had 45 points 42 points and then a total

of 67 points over the other five games in the series. Man, he just got worse and worse and worse one only one more attempt than D Anthony melted. Oh man in a game seven man and and oh that's tough. That's really he had he had said he did have seven assists and he also had five turnovers. But yeah, we were we were right about that as well. I max kept on saying Harden's your fucking prime. He's doing it. He's doing it. He should arrest him. He should arrest him in game seven. Yeah, I would arrest James Harden in game seven. I would have benched him. I actually think that there might be something to the fact that James Harden doesn't want to win the playoffs because he he gets paid regardless and he just wants to go party in the off season.

That might I think it might be time to have that discussion like legitimately James Harden might not want to win playoff series. I mean, it's overtime. They're making him work overtime. No one wants to overtime. Definitely not James. You have to be at the buffet. Okay, so Max Doc Rivers, James Harden, let's talk about that because I do want to have a bigger conversation about there is no there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because he is the MVP in the you know, he's he's a cornerstone of the franchise. Joe James Harden, Doc Rivers out. I mean, I mean, Harden has a player option. He could come back. Okay, but you want him out. Oh, no. No, he wants him back. No, I want him. I probably would prefer it. I don't know. It doesn't

matter. Like, what does it matter whether he comes back or he leaves the same team regardless? You know, I was thinking earlier tonight when I was watching this game, like what like, like if Harden comes back, we're still not going to win. If Harden leaves, we're not going to win. So like, why do I really care? Yeah, that's true. Well, you get somebody that's not James Harden. Yeah, but like, who? Who are we going to go get? What if it's Michael Jordan? Who are we going to be Butler? Who are we going to go back? Oh, Jimmy Butler. Hank, it was interesting because I was about to say like when I was watching this game, I was like, the Sixers team could really use Jimmy Butler. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine if Jimmy Butler was on the

Sixers. We're pulling out all the stops, you fellas. Well, I mean, we're talking ball. We're doing a great job of seeing every single every single thing on Twitter. It's great. Well, I'm just, you know, I haven't been on Twitter, Max. This is just like, this is guys talking ball. Like, this is what we do. I haven't been on social media at all. I just had a kid, Max. Did you also see that Ben Simmons is watching the game? Yes, I posted that on his Instagram. I mean, he's the biggest one. Yeah. Worst, worst TV location ever. So at least you won that. Yeah. I saw a picture. I think Sports Center posted a picture and it was like really high quality images of the Sixers last game, seven games. Oh, and it was the Kawhi picture with him being

looking at the ball, looking like he was going to cry. Ben Simmons passing under the basket and then a picture from Harden today. It was well done. So Hank, that's a good segue. Those happen in what? Like the conference finals, NBA finals? No. I think first or second round. I think second round all of them. Oh, no. So Joel and Pete's never been past the second round. Yeah, I know. Okay. So we should, and fair is fair, we should talk about this because I know people will say, well, he's been injured. Guess what? We make fun of Chris Paul on this podcast who was oftentimes injured. We're being fair. Joel and Pete, the conversation needs to be had where he just, he sucks in the playoffs. And in the second round, like the exact thing that basically got him

the MVP this year, when everyone's like, Yoke, it's can't get deep in the playoffs. That is what Joel and Pete is. He's never made it past the second round and his numbers get way worse the deeper he gets into the playoffs. What happens now? After the game, James, they interviewed Joel and Pete and he said, like me and James can't do it all on our own. No shit. Yeah, we just, we just saw that try to happen. Like, I think that was like a little, it was a slap across the face to especially Maxi, who's good. Like I like Maxi. Yeah. But for him, for him being to be like, yeah, me and James, you know, we try to do it on our own. We could use some help. Like I'd be pissed off if I was a player in the Sixers and I heard him say that. We should say that was an

out of context. Okay. All right. But let's give some context because I saw it and I was like, there's no way he just said this. There's got to be more context. He did say, but it's going to take more than us talking about him and James. We all got to look at ourselves. I got to be better and I will be better. That's what I'm focused on. All of us, we've got to come back and find ways to just keep improving and help the team. We can't win alone. I can't win alone. Me and James, we just can't win alone. That's where the clip came from. That's why basketball has played five on five. So we just need everybody to just try and keep finding ways to get better and we'll be fine. The it's still in context. You're the MVP of the league. Just say I sucked and I, it's all

on me. Yes. The context is making it that much better. I mean, he did say that. No, but yeah, no, I agree with P&T. The context is not making that much better. It makes it slightly better that he said first, I'm, I need to be better. But dude, don't like we, we ripped Giannis for his quote on the other side of the spectrum. That's also not true. Not true. The media did not rip Giannis. They were like, no, we, but like this show, I don't even think that's true. Yes, it is. I have fucking dudes with like four followers and a Giannis picture still tweeting me after every game being like, was this game a failure? Was this game a failure? Yes, we ripped Giannis. Giannis was no, you sugarcoated it. No, I said he's not a failure, but that was a failure. No, I mean that

this, you sugarcoated it just like every other person in the media who, who it's going to be the same thing as indeed. And then indeed is going to get trashed, especially by Philly media. And no, no, no, no, this is the MVP because of the media, dude. Correct. Correct. They fucking sugarcoated his failures in the playoffs. What does that have to do with the, that's what they had. And that's why they did yokish. An MVP has nothing to do. That's why yokish didn't win three in a row. Because he never, because that was a whole storyline. That's not, that is not, no, no. You can't give a guy a third MVP who doesn't do it in the playoffs. That absolutely was a storyline. But And beat hasn't done it in the playoffs either. So how that's what I'm saying

How do they give him like how is that an argument and then be like oh now we should give it to him be Passes that's what I'm saying. No, he has yes. He has no he has to be gotten passes. No, no That he gets a pass He gets a fucking hat said he got a pass. I honestly don't know what that means. What do you mean gets a pass? He's got you're saying that in the past in the past In the past he has not been criticized wrong getting through the second round wrong wrong He you're listening to the wrong people I got an MVP this year. Turn off. Rosillo. Rosillo. That's not Rosillo. Dude. I

Just think about this Yokic the ding on him this year was that he did not go deep in the playoffs You can't give a third MVP to a guy who doesn't perform in the playoffs and beat has never performed in the playoffs Correct. So they give it to him But that has nothing to do with the regular season MVP like they I guarantee Jokic should not but that's what I'm saying. They gave him no it was player fatigue It was player fatigue and that's what the media does in the mba with with MVPs and that's that I agree with the part of that

Joke the storyline was jokic sucks in the playoffs. No one talked about and beats suck on the playoffs Don't let max do this because what max is doing right now. He's he's grabbing on to one Insequential part of of the failure that was this season and then and then harping on that instead of addressing About the MVP. I've said that multitude of time. Oh you two you were happy about it. I I was like publicly on this show saying I don't give a fuck about the MVP when when mb was crying after he won He was like this is bad and it was so I think I think listen any team would be would be lucky to have Joel and beat his an awesome player I don't I don't think that there's anything about his game necessarily that that hamstrings him in the playoffs besides obviously

You know being susceptible to injury which some players are not being in shape But you can always say like doc rivers is way way bigger of an issue for him than his physical Abilities like doc getting rid of doc rivers. I think then do you see what b if he loses If he loses next season in the postseason in the second round, then he will Just gave him beat a pass I like he did he literally said doc rivers my whole point is the Doc rivers is who he is James harden is who he is the conversation should only be about joel and beat after this series. That's my thought

I am telling you The love story of like I am terrified from what for what's about to happen this off season Because the love story of joel and bead and philadelphia and I love him It's like it's going into the wrong direction and he's a great player But joe I want him to stay on the sixers, but I know Things are about to go south and that is I'm terrified. I think that there's a good chance He wakes up like he sees what philadelphia is saying about him tonight and tomorrow and and once out I just then you have one chance. Yeah, then max. You have one chance. It's on you tell joel and bead what you really feel

And I can't do that number one sports podcast Listen to this max He's gonna see I'm not gonna give him a pass. I'm not gonna give him a pass I mean he was then you're driving him away max then you're gonna be responsible when I All I am saying is I Love joel. I think I wanted to be on this team forever He's clearly not a go-to guy in the playoffs. He's just not And like that's something

Like even if he does go he's gonna go somewhere where he doesn't have to be the go-to guy in the playoffs He's not he can't lead a team deep in a playoff run, but he's still a really good player. He's a phenomenal player but like This is the the turning point of like we have we know who joel and bead is now Right, that's like he is anthony davis anthony davis is Ken when anthony davis is better than joel. No, he's not. Yes, he is No, he's anthony davis does the exact same thing does the exact same thing, but But he but he has lebron james on his feet. He was for anthony davis

anthony davis is the exact same thing anthony. Yes title He will half a time. Oh, yeah Yeah, half a half a title. Oh half a title clip that clip that anthony davis is won a title Anthony davis officially has a title. I'm just saying here. Here's all I'm saying joel and bead Love watch and play seems like anthony davis also has has had stinkers in this playoff And and bead has had good games in this playoff. Yes, so like but but anthony davis has got but he's number two on his team And and bead is number one. That's all I would say anthony davis number one. No, he's not. Yes. He is No, he's not he goes that team goes to anthony davis goes but lebron james is that team either way

anthony davis also had like remember that fucking series against uh Is it the blazers where he was like out of this world good either way? Don't don't let's not do an anthony davis joel and bead debate My point is joel and beads a phenomenal player. I fucking love him as a guy He deserves to be getting all the shit in the world and I don't think he's gotten all the shit He's had ben simmonds people like pft saying doc rivers is the problem He's had all these other things that have been able to excuse injuries He's stunk and he they needed him and it's similar to jason staton where it's like if you're the best player on the court

You step up in that moment. Otherwise like you need the criticism this series He was he needed to be there this game at the end of game six And game seven they he didn't get the ball at the end at the end of game six I blame that somewhat on james harden, but that's also like dude joel. He dominated the the entire game He just didn't get he just no one gave him the ball. He's a center. That's what i've been saying about this You have said that but yoke is a center center too. Yes, but like that's also Yoke, i'm going to go on this with doc rivers I just want to say this right now yoke's did just average a triple double in the series against and i'm not i'm not arguing

joe kich and bead i haven't said that I haven't said that once now it is clear it is clear who you would rather want on your team joe kich or ambide You would want joe kich yes after what joel ambide just did in game seven and after what joe kich just did in the in the west Like that's clear. I'm not arguing that all i'm arguing is that ambide still is Is a top player in the league he may not be the number one guy on a championship team But there's not that many guys out there in the league. Okay Let's talk failures and losers real quick because we were talking about we were talking about failures after the buck series Yes, we're talking about the process right? I think it might be time to do a postmortem on the process

Did the process work did the process of the process work and the results of the process didn't work So we're process guys on this podcast But i'm starting to think that when you do the process and you intentionally lose you create a losing stink Around your team for a while and that stink is harder to get off of than you might think just by having all the talent around Thoughts sure. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't care I'm just thinking about what happened in this game and what where this I don't even give a fuck where this team goes All right, that's a good answer. Matt. I mean max Listen, we're losers pft, but yeah, welcome. I'm a different one of us. I'm a different one of us

You're such a loser. It's such a like catastrophic losing that you do the clip is great It's on social medias during the stream, but uh max talking about the last six months Do you want to just yeah reflect on the show? Yeah, um I don't know how long we've been on the show. I've been on the show Since not a full year since august of 2022 I've been a part of four bets. I am three and one in the four bets first Had the 17 hot dogs came in second in the

in the hot dog competition That was second place Yep, that was me coming in second place. It's fitting for Philly. Yeah Yeah, oh, yeah, shake great point shake numbers. Wait, wait, you're forgetting that you Lost the world series and got no hit. No, I'm talking about bets. Oh, yeah, you also lost the world. Yes. I lost Correct. Lost the world one game one though. There was a game. There was a game. No of hits um, no number two big cat

bought my ticket to the super bowl With the condition that I pay him when it lose if if the eagles lose lose $6,000 a lot of money to To a man like myself paid the $6,000. Oh Drink champagne before Whatever threw up on yourself three The third lost your phone the third loss soul patch soul patch on my face looks really sick really happy about it Checking the youtube it's gonna it's gonna have him him getting animated in person has been hilarious Tune into the youtube and watch max go on the rant because it's hilarious. I have won one bet

I have won one bet. Uh, the winner got to do the ray allen tweet Oh That was sick So you mean you're you're one in three. You're not three in one. Yeah, one of you. Whatever. Who cares? Yeah, who cares? Yeah, doc river style. Uh, don't forget you won a pair of jordans Yeah, that that was actually The only that was sick and the mls because yeah because the eagles lost. No, but oh, yeah The blue that came in second. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that was the right way. She's in game that meant absolutely nothing

That was you also got everyone you got everyone on ucla injured Yeah, that was a loser you I I would actually count ucon winning the title as a loser for you because you bet against them every single game Uh max homo like he might never recover from us betting on him in the masters also your stink on him Uh, yeah, you're you lose In spectacular fashion like you two are both matt like massive losers, but it's not even No, it's it's so huge. It's just like we wake up lose go on with our life You wake up get your hopes up get them way up get them even further up and then get them squashed like a bug every day Yeah, we're very comfortable in our losing and and one day you'll get there max

But right now you're in such denial about being a loser. I'm not in denial Yeah, like the chicago sports might have the we're until they do the mba draft lottery They could have a historic three number one picks And you're still bigger loser than me this last year max Do you still trust the process? No, the process is done. The process is done. Yeah, it's a pond. Remember when I said it was a ponzi scheme I don't I I'm not doing this whole ponzi. I don't like what is it? I'm not doing the whole ponzi scheme

The process was a thing that failed. Do you that's it's as simple as that. Do you regret at all? doing the lebron james Dance in the gambling cave in the first quarter. Yes regret it Yes, answer. Yes Which I didn't do it Which I didn't appear on any stream for the past two weeks Yes, wish wish that didn't happen Max do you regret calling philly tidal town?

I regretted that before I even finished the fucking sentence like There's nothing that has been regretted more in a quicker amount of time That's like the fact of that question Is being asked when you go back to it and it's like it's titled I can't say that and then it was just gone max. Do you regret hating dogs? So you don't even have like a nice friend to go home dogs. Whoa. I don't hate Okay, good good good. Good max doesn't it wait

I Don't hate what you say, I don't I don't hate fucking dogs So, oh no, you you love fucking dogs. So I guess he does love dogs It does. I love fucking them right. Yeah, it's a little. Yeah, it's a little impressive You love dogs Very very yes, we're wrong about that one. Yeah, you love dogs Yeah, listen max doesn't love like the fur and the eyes and the ears the outside but max loves the Shut up

Max doesn't like dogs. He loves dogs. If you get what I'm saying Look at him right now I hate this show so much. You can't get lower. We love you. Oh We love you as much as you love fucking dogs I It's just Hank you don't get to laugh that hard That's the only part that sucks about it is Hank gets so much I'm absolutely loving everything about max right now in this interaction, but I I can just hear hanks smiling

Yeah, so so much with every sentence that he says and that's pissing me off I have uh I mean max. I don't I don't know what to say at this point. You're You're as low as you could get What I'm about as low I can't I can't believe this is this just happens. It's just like a tri yearly thing that I just whatever I did I did give him like a

I while he was shaving his face and he was uncovering his gross rash Uh, he I was like max. Is there has been a part of you at all in the last year Where you wish you hadn't taken this job and you just remained like an anonymous ogre In the video bay and he to to his credit. He said no, I love doing this show So, yeah, or he kind of said that he kind of was like he hemmed and hawed a little bit Uh Like that He did that. Yeah, no happy to be here

Not right now We love you max. Uh, okay. We do love you. Yeah, like you do You've been on such a run You want to switch with hanks? Watch watch your hand watch your hand No, he's fine. He's nice switch with hank switch. Thank you can switch Max that was it for max. Um, good job. Good job max I had one last thing about this series and then we could talk about the other stuff uh, I think

there should be a rule in MVP voting that if you don't get past second round it just goes to the second place guy Or maybe whoever gets to the like you have to give the conference finals It's same as nfl. You have to win at least one playoff game Like I know it's a regular season award, but I think there should be like a stipulation That's because you don't want to change it Where you vote after the playoffs because then they'll just give it to the best player in the playoffs That would just be the mvp every year and they would just disregard the regular season

But just having one stipulation where it's like, okay, you got the mvp We won't give it to you until you get to the conference finals. Then you officially become the mvp I I do kind of like that that Every now and again where it happens when like Peyton Manning wins the nfl mvp And then he would get his ass kicked by tom brady in the playoffs and he'd still have to accept the award Well, tom brady had yet to play in the super bowl That's that's almost as much of a punishment as giving it to somebody else It was uh, remember they stopped doing it in the in the mba after durk won the mvp

and then lost in the first round of the warriors and uh, they they stopped like doing that ceremony in the second round but I really Like I people complain about it because I think it's fair if you win the mvp and you flame out It does feel a little hollow So make that just a rule where you get the mvp If you get to the conference finals like you had like the mvp has to come from the conference It's the best player regular season who also got to the conference finals I don't I don't know if I totally agree with that

But I I like the idea of having the voting take place like in the middle of the playoffs So if somebody flames out in really really spectacular fashion That will be in the back of their mind and so if it's a toss up like in this case if it was in beat and yokich And uh, the voting happened like during this series Then it might have swung the other way. Right. I don't know that you should wait I don't know that you should like take it away from somebody But I think having the voting take place midway through the playoffs would be probably a happy compromise. And maybe it's uh You know like in mlb. You got to make the playoffs that'd be cool

You know, yeah, it's just I don't know. I guess I really don't care about mvp at the end of the day. It's more just this Like I was looking back at actually is only Let's see one two three It's happened a bunch in the last like five years But the last 30 years has only happened like eight or eight times So you'd only have to and some of them would end up being like it would be a net positive Like tim duncan would lose one, but he'd get another one. So I don't know just a thought just a thought

Okay max is back in his seat hanks here Uh, you want to talk some others other mba stuff? Should we talk? Lakers warriors and yeah Uh, don't clip this but what lebron james did on friday night is pretty fucking mind boggling I'm not a fan of the guy, but I can step back and be like he's in year 20 And he just went up against the warriors who weren't you know peak warriors But in either way and he dropped a 39 and nine in year 20 Uh, and his career like the longevity of his career is insane. He's in another conference final

I think he's made the conference finals like You know in healthy years. It's something ridiculous where it's pretty much every year. He is like his own conference final dynasty but that Lakers like I'm I am now officially just I think I'm just gonna have to put a big bet on the nuggets because I'm so scared the lakers I have to like do like a last stand because I think the lakers win the title Yeah, join me. This is the way. Yeah, shout out lebron lebron was great

Also rob low and the rest of the lakers front officer get some credit because their team sucked They they were a bad bad team until they got rid. Well, maybe that's the move It's just get westbrook on your team and then get rid of them halfway through the season And then the vibes by comparison will be so much higher that your team will actually gel together Because the front office turned this team around from what looked like a dead-end season And now they they legitimately looked like they could win a championship. Yeah, they're so good against the warriors Lebron James. Yeah, it's like fountain of youth even though he did spend like 50 seconds on the ground

slapping the floor Wiping his eyes down. I thought he was dead for a while on that one shot He went to the hole got knocked down and d'angelo russell came behind him and did the flex pose behind him Yeah, and then held the flex pose for like 40 seconds Well, lebron was on the ground crying until he got up But that's just what you're going to get with lebron He's going to be awesome and then we'll do some hilarious things that everybody can make fun of And so he's fun to watch but uh, yeah the lakers they should get the credit for this

The warriors dynasty may be over that that'll be a conversation that'll be happening all over first take tomorrow Yeah, I don't know I So clay was awful. Like if you got anything from clay, they might go seven I'm saying like pretty much any game. He was at the end at the end there They were leaving him open basically being like go ahead and shoot. You're not going to make it uh But draemon look like he still has something left in the tank and stef is still stef So I don't know. I mean if they could make a couple moves

I cur did have a quote after where he's like we weren't a championship caliber team Like that's just we you could tell that we were not on that level Uh, but I I do think that like when you have stef curry who's still as good as he is the Knee jerk would probably be like let's try to run back as much of this as possible because starting fresh And totally over feels like it would be pretty hard to do when he's 35 years old Yeah, but it depends on who you move on from that's how we like we can continue the stef dynasty For the no, of course

It's going to have to evolve like they're going to have to get some good players that aren't currently on the roster to take over Uh guys like probably draemon is his last season. Maybe maybe one more season left Oh, I think he's gonna play at least at least one season left playing Meaningful minutes on this warrior's team is what I'm saying like he could maybe go somewhere else. Oh see I can contribute I'm like reverse where I was like Watching draemon in this series like that's how important he is to what they do like he you need him to to You need to resign him and hope that he Can stay, you know

So like don't let him leave because he is like that's he is just as important not just as important as stef But he's the second most important guy in everything that they do And I just don't know what you do with clay But I at my point is he's third steps 35 years old Are you gonna blow the whole thing up and hope that you can figure it out Around him because that feels like it might take too much time Or do you try to tinker with it and be like hey, let's try one or two more years here While stef is still stef and see if we can recapture something

You got to get one more big piece in you can't run it back with the same team that you have right? No, I agree I agree. I'm just so you can't blow the whole thing up Yeah, it's not demolition dynasty not over just dynasty on pause But how many how many years do they get without a championship? For it to be considered the same dynasty like if they win if they lose next year and then win the year after Are we considering that part of the same dynasty? If they win if they win next year you're saying no if they lose if they lose this year Obviously, they will lose this year and then they lose next year

And then win the year after I think that you would because it's only it's only going to be two seasons removed from a dynasty I think it becomes like the tim duncan Where it's like it all kind of blends together and you're like, oh, yeah dynasty, but it was just You know, it was a very long period of time where they were just very very good and in the mix every single year Yeah, I I agree. I think if you win another in the next three years then it still counts it blends together as the same right Um, yeah, so the Lakers. I'm scared of Austin Reeves. I fucking love Austin Reeves So that half court shot was awesome. Everyone pumped up all the uh all the celebrities. I can't max

His face is tough to look at bft. It's I just caught it out of the corner of my eye I think he looks good. I think he just has to No, no, he doesn't he does not think that Uh, what does that mean Hank? Let's unpack that. What do you mean dress appropriately? I think he needs like Hawaiian shirts. No, I think like all black All black and maybe like, uh He's got to embrace the roti. Yeah, and a coven mask No, you can't wear a coven mask

All black. Yeah, you're right. All black. Maybe like a black jacket with patches on the back Yeah, I think hank needs to get shaved Just like a sheep should have told you know should have told that to uh embedin. Yeah Yeah, you should have uh, yeah, so the Lakers I'm I I am very afraid of them pft Yeah, or do you agree with me that if as a nuggets fan you are one right now at least for the next I've never I've always loved yokich. Yeah Yeah, you would agree that playing the Warriors would have been by far the preferable route for us. Oh easily easily Yeah, I am I am afraid of the Lakers, but again like man

Anthony Dave is just healthy healthy as a as a horse. He's just he's out there just setting records for health You know what scares me And this Hank you shouldn't get to listen to this um Coley our former colleague good friend of ours Said something to me once that like registered in my head and I never got it out of it out of my head when you talk about Playoff matchups. It was before the Patriots played the Falcons in the Super Bowl and he was like

Yeah, the Patriots like they're not gonna lose to the Falcons like it's the Falcons Like even though the Falcons were the NFC champions. He was saying just franchise wise It's the Falcons and I remember just being like what the fuck And then when it was 23, I was like, huh, Coley looks like an idiot and then we know the rest of that story the Lakers Aren't gonna lose to the nuggets like just says like NBA history goes Do you know that's what scares me just take out the fact that the nuggets I think are a better team It's the Lakers in the nuggets and that's the Nuggets that sucks to have in my head

And I hope it's wrong But Coley shout out Coley has and I know Hank like he's nodding along because you've probably had many Sporting events in your life that have been exactly that Yeah, it's the lakey. It's the Lakers in the nuggets It's like remember you remember the Patriots should have lost to the Jaguars in the playoffs The NFC championship came the Patriots don't they're not gonna lose the Jaguars to the Jaguars, right? Yeah, the refs the refs probably have that in the back of their head too That's why they're like, oh yeah miles jacks down because they're like it's the Jaguars. Of course. He's down

They're not going to beat the Patriots, right? But yeah, I understand what you're saying, but these aren't those nuggets. These are these nuggets. Yeah, we need nuggets You know what we need We need like a 2001 diamond backs Yankees because that could have absolutely been the same case The Yankees aren't going to lose the diamond backs. So we need that. Yeah, we need that Yeah, that was that was a shocker because it was also Wasn't it right after 9-11? It was. Yes. And everybody in America was like, oh, yeah The the Yankees are gonna it's gonna be a sweep. Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a wamping

So yeah, we just need it's these nuggets not those nuggets get those old nuggets out of your head These are the new nuggets. Yes. Yes. Um, okay, and then the last NBA game then we'll talk some hockey Nick's Tried hard Jalen Brunson went out on his sword Uh, and now the heat in the eastern conference finals Uh, I really do think that like Hank Hank should be way more scared of the heat Than the Sixers just because of Jake similar to the Lakers Duggets thing Jake just being there and being like, oh, I don't really care and then having them beat the Celtics after the war

Inc went through It does kind of work out perfectly Jake's not gonna lose to Hank last year Yeah, that's true point. Yeah, that's true I I think the heat like I think it's gonna be a good series. I don't The heat are not as talented as the Celtics But I think the coaching discrepancy between spo and mazula will definitely swing the heat's way for at least the game Massive massive coaching discrepancy. Am I am I wrong? Spolster has never won a coach of the year

Hmm Probably not because all those Because the years that he won titles everyone was like, well, it's because he's got a super team Yeah, but I mean, I think we should start banging that drum. Spolster should be coach of the year Last year should have been the year when they were the one seed But if if last year is not going to be the year then like when will it happen? You should get one. He's underappreciated. You got mbca coach of the year in 2017 What is that? I don't know what that is

Uh National basketball coaches associations probably that's not the coach of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Uh I are you nervous Hank? I'm a little nervous. I still sometimes think about that game seven last year where the Celtics were up And then the heat came back and Jimmy Beller missed that three That would have been probably one of the most devastating sports moments of my life and it just randomly pops flashed into my head sometimes So I am nervous. I do think the Celtics should win Uh, they'll probably lose a couple games because of coaching, but I think it should be Celtics and six or Celtics and seven

I think it'll be a I'm more worried about the heat than I was about the Sixers going into the Sixer series the heat Like jimmy butler is the opposite of joel and beat and james heart Polar opposite he gets better in the playoffs not and is worse than regular season kevin love proven winner. Yeah Max truce Bam bam was actually close out game. Bam was phenomenal. I think he had like 15 points It felt like five minutes into the game

Yeah, I just think the heat aren't as good as they were last year in the Celtics They know that they should win the series. Yeah I uh, so should the bucks So should the bucks so should of the next so should of the bulls So should not really know what they definitely should know. Yeah I uh, have you seen yeah, go ahead I was just gonna say official predictions. Hank said Celtics and six or Celtics and seven Celtics and six official So, what's the bet?

Between Hank and Jake, I'm done with soul patch. I think I'm good with bets. I've never had fish layer in my life You can't quit on bets. I by the way My sick twisted brain Uh, what is like three days ago? I offered uh, the loser of the soul patch bet can can Automatically hit a double or nothing button for a week one of the NFL eagles Patriots Yeah, it's not the playoffs. What about it's not yours. It's not your bet to make dan I don't care Hank. It's the show for the listeners Hank

How about this if if you want to show to be great? Why don't we say like if it's a little thing If if it's four to one or four to nothing if a whopping's on the table the loser can't play golf for a month Sure, okay Okay around a golf You can't play any golf. You can't swing a club Can't practice 4o or 4 1

Jake's bigger risk for me. Yeah, considering the odds. Yeah Jake should have it. Jake should get sweet. Yeah, Jake should get Jake should get if he gets swept and Hank should have to do it if if the Celtics lose 4 1 or 4 Yep, teal you spot him a game. Okay. All right. All right. I like it If the eagles beat the Patriots by 20, you should have to get a soul patch We'll see what the spread is. Okay. All right. It would be so awesome if it's how we get you back in 141 Hank Hank not golfing for his first month in Chicago will be incredible or you can get out of it with a soul patch Okay

How can I get out of it soul patch? Uh ray allen tweet. No, uh, okay. Well, there you go Get out of it with that. That's very easy. What have you seen? Nick's fans going after Julius Randall. It's been quite quite a story. They were stomping on his poster Yeah, I think was a kenyan martin Was tweeting about how he shouldn't be kissing his wife after a game Uh, they lost it was very bizarre I I mean I part of me is like, yeah, this is like if you're a nix fan like you're supposed to be tough tough town to

To win in you got to deal with it But you can't flip the switch that fast from having absolutely no playoff success And then you win a series and then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, you actually shouldn't show affection to your wife After you lose like you can't oh, yeah, that one was bad that quick You can't turn on a man that quickly like I'm not the biggest Julius Randall fan in the world I think that we've beaten him two years in a row in uh in cj. McCollum's fantasy football like no big deal But I don't think that you should like trash the man Because uh, you you win one playoff series in the last whatever 15 years

And you're like, we're supposed to be better than this. No, you had a nice run You should have enjoyed it what you did but don't turn on them that quickly counterpoint and I agree with the Like kissing the wife. That was stupid But like they were trashing his they were they were stomping on they were doing graffiti on his poster at mass square garden counterpoint nix fans Roots so hard for the nix that even winning a series was like a championship So it felt like they were like nix fans in the playoffs

Live a life of like seven years in one week It feels like the emotions that they go through So yeah, so they they won a championship and then lost the championship essentially right right pretty much And then they trashed Julius Randall on the way out Yeah, Hank, what were you gonna say? I'll save her who's back. Okay, uh So hockey playoffs real quick. We are watching game six of the Oilers right now Congratulations to Carolina in Florida being in the easter conference finals huge for hockey. That's gonna be great What that's tough. Yeah, I mean, I think it's exciting. I'm gonna go with Carolina because why not?

Who knows but I do have something pft for you Our friend Spencer Hawes after we made him go to a kraken game. Yeah, we bullied him into A For game seven I have yours right here in the studio Hank can you crack it on jersey for those listening? Seattle can you model it for me, Hank? Yeah, oh, which I got to figure out the official blue that you're wearing Is that teal? Is that teal? Is that what it's called? That's a beautiful. No, it's a special color. Billy jake looked up the pan tone

We're cracked. Oh, that's a sick jersey teal. Yep. We're cracked. No, you're wearing nice blue We're we are On the bandwagon for the crack ice blue huge huge crack heads. I've always been a crack It I grew up with Mary and Barry as my mare. So that that's I love this team. Let's go. Yes. Yes And they like they're fun. So that series has been so much fun to watch I know the second round hasn't been great, but we get it. We get a game seven every game has been like a hundred goals That's a beautiful hat. Hey, that's his hat is money. We're we're crack heads Yeah, Hank, I love that jersey, but if you steal it, I will I'll slit your throat

Yeah, I was gonna say it's a shame you're never gonna see it again. Yeah, I mean this this This is kind of your hat too. I think uh, you know, we should do We're looking real comfortable on that side of the desk. Yeah, I'm feeling great jake tomorrow morning I'll give you my credit card. Go to the nhl shop. It's right near here right down the street and get my first panther Yeah, I get max the dallas stars jersey for tomorrow night Oh the plain little guitar if we get max into dallas stars jersey, we're good Yeah, let's do it max. You have you have to be our whore now in terms of just rooting for teams that we want to lose

He's not even when I say he's not listening. He's just he's just On his swivel chair just scrolling twitter just as sad as sad. Yes. No, I'm all over the lakers though So you're getting your wish there. Okay. Yes That's I fucking hate. I hate Hank when he wins. Look at him. I know it's it's It's brutal It's it's brutal because I love the guy like a brother But there are times when he wins That make me want to be like I don't ever want to talk to you again in my life

Yeah, no, I I feel those vibes. I felt like that after the lottery ball honestly like before this Let's not talk about that till the end I think I congrats on your kid. Thank you. Let's not talk about that to the end. But yeah, uh He's the worst to be around because he's just I'm happy so smug. No, what does that mean? It's smug. I'm just happy And you win so much. I know that's the problem Celics have been in the final four or a boston team has been the final four for 14th or years Shut the fuck up

That actually made max cry a little bit. He started to cry a little bit You understand that like Me me and big cat we can't even understand what that must feel like having 14 years of deep playoff runs One right after the other it must be it's really not that great. It must be fucking awesome. It's really not It's really not that great. I'll tell you that well the second run isn't that deep No, the second round is not deep at all. Joan beats fairly gotten it in I'm talking whatever The eagles and the fillies

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Okay, who's back of the week Hank? My who's back of the week is Blake Griffin Oh, welcome to the third round of the NBA playoffs Blake of the year Big day I'm happy for him. Let's go Blake. Was that is is that a subtle dig? No About him being in the third round No, it's like the monkey's off his back. Okay. I'm happy for him. That's that's like a dig

This is what happens when you don't have this is where it's like, I don't I don't I love him so much I didn't even know he hadn't got to the third round. That's why I assumed he had No, I do. I love him so much. I assumed he had it's something that reporters in the media and people talk about with him And I'm happy it's no longer a storyline. Let's get is his back getting better. It's gotta be all right. I want to see he could There's no reason he's like 10 times better than Grant Williams. I'm not trying to start shit in that locker room, but He is He is you know, he would be awesome if you could if you give you 10 12 minutes a game

If the series goes the way that Hank thinks that it's gonna go and it's not particularly close We could see Blake getting in wait. I'll put it this way If you don't say I don't think it's good. Yeah, I think it's back because there's been blowouts If Haslam gets in the game, I need to see Blake in the game I think he just needs to get his back healthy and he'll play regular minutes. Yeah Blake's back. I hope so. But yeah, I'm just I'm just happy for him. I thought we should have mentioned that. Uh, I forgot earlier I don't I it wasn't a dig at all. I'm legitimately I love him so much. If you told me he had three titles. I'd be like, yeah

He's the fucking man Blake of the years. Maybe well, but I'm talking about NBA titles. He's coming for his first. Okay Uh, that would be a nice we could just we could just have Hank We should have Blake produce the podcast that day instead of Hank Yes, yeah, I have to sell this with the title Hank, would you actually know because then Hank's like that means that I get to Go to the closeout game and party and not have to work the next day True. Good point. Good point. No, Hank should produce that podcast for sure. Yeah Okay, you hate golf. No, I don't I just hate when you golf and you win

It's the combo. Like if you were losing in golfing, it would be totally fine It's the fact that you keep you keep winning and then you're like, oh, what do I have on my monday calendar golf? It's bullshit. That's bullshit. No, we got a photo shoot tomorrow. It's got to even out at some point It's got to even out at some point. I I'm not feeling well for that photo shoot tomorrow Well, we have to do it for merch. So it's mandatory. You'll be there I am I am not a member of content of this show. Uh, you'll be there I no one wants to see me wear our merch Everyone I do I do wrong. Do you know how many sad max mugs we sold? That's a great point

Such a good point So you'll be there for the photo shoot. I hate our merch team. This is oh my god. Oh, damn Scheduling this tomorrow is just it's just Polar and Allison are the best. Why are you doing that? Uh, all right pft My who's back of the week is ja marant Old old ja's back in the news. I don't know if you guys check social media today But uh ja was on instagram live He's addicted to going on instagram live and he had a gun in his hand. Allegedly. It looked like a gun

He's addicted to to holding guns on social media He did go to rehab for that for about three days and I thought that he was cured I think the NBA thought that he was cured of his addiction But uh, no, he's back at it and people are saying that he should be suspended which he was People are saying he should be kicked off the grizzlies, which he has not been Just suspended. I just want to say that let's remember that you have a first and second amendment in this country So you can post whatever you want on social media even if you happen to be holding a gun I don't think that he was breaking any laws in this video. Was he

Just being he was just being a dumb ass, right? No, I don't think he has a permit for that gun Well, so there's a couple laws being broken. Uh It was still he hasn't gotten a bigger gun Still It was a little size up But dude, like if you're gonna get suspended from the grizzlies Take out a bazooka like do it and then second It was for 115 viewers on instagram live. It looked like a 40 you have to do it for more viewers

I'm just I'm just speaking just straight facts like have your gun debates over here. I don't give a fuck Bigger gun more viewers worth it. It was his friends. It's not worth it It was his friends instagram live and then you you could you could see the moment where he turned the camera to ja And then somebody like hit the camera out of his hand real quick because it's like no, ja's got his gun out again Yeah, uh, it was it was kind of funny to see that that play out in real life It's like you should have one reason or one rule if you're ja's friend It's just don't go live on instagram when he has a gun in his hand, right, which might be more often than not Yeah, that's yeah, it might be all the time. Don't go on instagram. I'm just I'm I'm praying for ja

I'm praying for ja that he gets another bout of treatment and Three days later. He's out of like whatever Orlando halfway house that he went to and he's cured for another three months of holding a gun on live stream Yeah, it's um, it's a weird story. I also think ja like if I were defending ja In uh in front of like adam silver I would just pull up all the hilarious tweets that happen every time ja does this because It is very funny on twitter whenever he does this Uh, be like look, it's good for like bringing people together like look at all these look at all these memes Look at all these jokes. This is kind of cool. Like everyone's getting along getting jokes off on my expense

I'm actually doing a greater good for humanity by letting everyone do open mic night on like a sunday morning Yeah, yeah, this is what we do as a country We we highlight the negative and we dismiss the positive if i'm defending him I make a super cut of all the times that ja moran has not been holding a gun On instagram live because it's probably been at least once or twice And we can just focus in on those screenshots and be like look you're just you're focusing in on on what might be one percent Of the time that he's live on instagram. Yeah is when he's actively holding a gun So I don't I I don't know what the grizzlies do like

I have to imagine that the last time they had this conversation with jaw. They were like, hey Um, it's a pretty easy rule that you have to follow. It's just don't broadcast yourself holding a gun And then he did that long sit-down interview and he acted like he was a changed guy Uh, if you're the grizzlies, do you do you get rid of them? Do you move on from jaw because? Because he just is dumb because he's dumb as shit I don't think so and it has gotten a little like Weird uh with some of the debates being like well, he's not doing anything illegal He's also just not using his brain because essentially

There's there's a couple things that happen one is He's been in a couple gun incidents the one with you know the fight with the kid in his house Also his friends with the Pacers. So like those were bad. It's not like oh, he's just a fanatical gun owner There's been some times when he's used he's flashed his gun In not great circumstances and second like The grizzlies are it's pretty easy to be like dude. Don't flash your gun ever And he went like one month. It's almost like a stupidity test of like can you not flash your gun and will be cool

Like go go in the mirror and flash your gun to yourself Do that all you want, but like get and you could say like well, it wasn't his instagram live I think also the grizzlies point Is surround yourself with better people who might not just pop on instagram live While you are in the mood to flash your gun Yeah, or just get a knife. Let's let's try Like down playing it a little bit like let's try to phase this out I don't I by no means am I suggesting that you go cold turkey off deadly weapons job

Because that that can be deadly too. So you just next time have it be a sword Like go through all the ninja turtles you could have it have it be a sword And then the sigh and then the bow staff and then the nunchuck and then next thing you know You're just walking around without a weapon. We could we go bear mace. We could go fucking He could he could have uh, you know brass knuckles. Yeah airsoft nerf gun There's a lot of steps to rehabilitation here. Ultimately. I don't think that like yeah The grizzlies would be dumb to move on from him But also job rent is being dumb to just not follow one rule

Just don't don't don't flash your gun anymore Pretty simple instructions that he has to follow and and there'll be some shows that probably have like a very serious conversation about Ja and his like his future as a human and all that I don't I don't really feel the need to get into that or like pretend to understand What he does in his spare time and the friends that he has but uh, Ideally you would like to see this guy who's about to make hundreds of millions of dollars Not blow that opportunity because he's dumb as shit. Do you know what the grizzlies also could do? They could think like a Silicon valley startup where they're like well, we know you work so hard

So we'll put a kegerator in the office and a ping pong table And like on friday afternoons everyone can get drunk and it's like oh, isn't this a great place to work Why not like once a week just have gun flashing parties in a private room in the grizzlies facility So he can get that out of the system. It's like everyone bring your gun and show your gun to everyone and like And we'll have fun and we won't broadcast it and then you walk out of it And you're like man, that was fun. Can't wait to flash my gun next week at the gun flashing party Yeah, but also in memphis when you got that you got the bass pro shop pyramid right there with all the guns in the world inside That's like asking a player in las vegas don't go to any strip clubs. Yeah, it's tough

It's a it's a bad environment for job being so close to Essentially like the world's coolest indoor gun supermarket. We didn't get more guns. We do not need to get more guns Billy you're the last person. Okay. Yeah, you you do not need a gun I Forbid you from getting a gun ever Billy would just and i'm not saying this because I don't think billy is like Billy would just shoot random animals. He'd be shooting rats in the subway hunting right in the subway. Yeah um

He you he should actually take a page out of billy's playbook and be like it It was just an intrusive gun that I had I didn't even mean to pull it out Um, all right. My who's back is yeah having children. My third child was born Uh wild wild circumstances on friday. We got to west virginia for ruffin rowdy Uh, I was actually joking about it on the plane. It's like, oh man, like I'm close and like we just got to get through these next eight hours And then my wife called me right like around like six 15 right before doors opened. She's like, yeah, my water just broke so, uh

Went through the whole thing. It's still the coolest thing in the world. I cried again No shame in that there's it's it's weird when you have a kid. There's two cries There's cry when the kid is being born because you're like, oh my god This is like incredible and then like there's the 10 seconds that the kid hasn't cried yet And you're like, oh my god He's not breathing and then they do the they like plunge their lungs and shit Uh, so that that gets scary cry, but yeah, it's fucking cool And I think that was the biggest thing that happened on friday

So so I was telling my friend that I was hanging out with on friday I was like, yeah big catches had had another kid It's three and then the thought occurred to me that there's going to be the first moment when you're at home and You've got your baby and then maybe your wife has your daughter and then Your son is in like a different room and makes a noise already look at each other Like now what do we do? Like both of our hands are full already. How how do we deal with three children already happened? Already happened this afternoon during the Celtic Sixers game

Uh, I would say the only tip and I've only been a father of three for two days The only tip I I'd give is I bought like a big gift for my My first son and my daughter and I saved it for when the baby came so when the baby came home I was like, look here's a gift and it was like a toy they could play with for like four hours Which was a lifesaver. So that was that was huge like they were just like having fun with the new toy So I would anyone was having multiple children. I would do that again because that was uh, That was thinking quick on my feet

I would think that there's going to be a number of loud noises from rooms that you're not in where you're just going To be like, oh god, I don't know how to handle this Yeah, it's it's uh, it's definitely but I'm very happy for you. Yes, that's very it's very cool moment So I'm just I'm very glad that you got to experience it like what a wonderful moment for you on friday What a great great thing that happened to this podcast on friday. It really is and I'm done three's it. I'm done Four's I mean three's already a lot snips that I don't know I think you just pull out get on trt trt yeah

Why then I would want to have more kids. No, no your fertility would be gone. Okay, then I'll get on trt Yeah, fuck it get jack get on trt But yeah, having kids rules so anyone who's thinking about doing it all the dad's out there pft soon. Yep Yeah, maybe we'll do an FAQ dad version sometime and I'll list you you guys Answer questions how you would do it and then I can answer how I do it But yeah, I feel like I I feel like I should address that now because enough enough people have tweeted at me There wasn't a whole bunch but at the end of friday's show I had been planning

On the first time hank gets a lottery ball to just say that I'm having a kid Just to take all the air out of the room and to remove any sort of joy or accomplishment that hank had I even told hank that I was going to do this because it was like I was thinking about doing this But then I thought no, I'm not going to joke about that And I told hank about that a month ago when we were down in texas And then it happened on the show and hank completely forgot that I told him I was going to do that in advance And so for the record, I'm I'm very happy just with my one child chris Who's really happy by the way because stuff's and johnson won go aces aces still top of the table

I know but they the four aces one one shot back. They almost had a the first fourth ace He already forgot you line David. Yeah, peter. Don't wait. Who are the other three hank? Dustin johnson papper as uh patrick reid and okay Peer you on yeah, there you go. Yeah, there you go. But yeah, big big weekend for chris's aces So he's happy and I didn't have to explain to him. You're not going to have a younger sibling Big cats, I don't know if it was on the youtube But I didn't believe you but big cat did a great job selling it with his face to me

Where I was like he gave me a face that was like I'm being dead serious Yeah, because I knew obviously you were joking because you told me but that was that was what I was like I had to really question myself and when big cat was giving me like the Yeah, yeah, but big cat does have cancer. Yeah, and jake doesn't give a fuck. That's funny. That's jake doesn't give a fuck That's not true. Also shout out my uh my first born son who this morning said to me You're being really bossy what you should try to sleep more and it was literally the I think you should leave hot dog. Like we're all trying to find the guy who did this mic. Yeah I shouldn't sleep more. Thanks a lot, dude. So yeah having kids rocks

Uh, it was awesome. It's also very cool. Whatever, you know, obviously my third kid, but like the outpouring of Love from everyone on the internet is pretty crazy always like kind of shocks me and uh, yeah Thank you for everyone reached out. Thank you for everyone congratulated me Thank you to memes who congratulated me before my child was born, which is like the most intense Couple hours where you're like, I hope this kid comes out healthy Uh and almost jinxed the whole thing. Thank god. It wasn't max who did that because then my kid would be dead, but uh What max what has that power? He's such a loser But yeah, thank you to everyone for reaching out. It really is the fucking best

What did your older kids think of the new baby? Uh son who's now four about to be four super pumped daughter whose middle child who also like is I can already tell is me Uh, just flopped on the floor and through a temper tantrum. So to be expected I mean, she's a middle child. So she's gonna be like fuck this Like like I'm not the baby anymore this bullshit. So but she's only she's only two. So I she gets a pass Billy who's back? My who's back is israel adesanya

his girlfriend is suing him for breaking up with her and It's kind of a weird situation where she's basically trying to like Get some of his money that he made while they were together, but they were never married So just weird situation Dan Bilzerian warned us about this on the podcast we can ever air He did there was actually a wealth of information and and life advice that dan gave us that will We'll have to just sprinkle it out here and here in there I never heard it. Can I hear it? Is it on the drop box? No because you're too your your brain would afford everything It'd be like this guy rocks. Yeah, they were pft and big cat. We're trying to cancel

Yeah, billy. We're actually we're trying to protect all the us out there forever listening to this Uh, okay, so is he is she gonna win? I don't know she supported him. Yeah She got a little Like a little tape wet the beak. Yeah, nothing crazy, but wet the beak 100k. Yeah, sure. Why not? I don't know Yeah for what I don't supporting them So what the beak and I support him Do you really support him she suck his dick? So she's she's claiming she's a sex worker. No, that's not what i'm saying, but will you support him emotionally?

She was with me So was like, where were you five thousand people? All right, hank get on this lawsuit I mean, I'm curious what what her argument is especially there's nothing if they didn't get married. Yeah, not getting married It's pretty tough to win this one. This would be like a landmark case if she wins Probably not a great precedent. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I agree. Good point hank Uh, jake My who's back is majors. It's major week

PGA championship at okl and rochester The full field was announced and can't wait. Hopefully our guys do well. Yeah, I'm rooting for uh I think i'm gonna see if I can do it on the sports book a some type of live I think a live guy is gonna win either johnson smith kepka. Whoa, maybe patrick reed. Okay. Ooh Today though, it was it was crazy. I am I am you're a livehead. I'm a livehead. I was watching today It was on the cw and there was a rain delay so it got you know postponed two hours it pushed two hours late and right at 6 30

It was tied cam uh camp smith dustin johnson two holes left And they just cut it cut it from tv Because because of like that and they were but they weren't even running anything like new like seventh heaven had to play Yeah, they were running they were running like frazier reruns Uh, so I had to watch on the website. So that was a little nuts. That's how hardcore you are Yeah, you went to the website. I like watching good golf dustin johnson k smith brooks Some of the best covers in the world if they're at the top of leaderboard i'll be watching and I think

They're gonna be at the top of leaderboard this week. I think max. Can we just let's focus this energy on on brooks If you're gonna pick any live golfer, I'd like to see you just say brooks. Yes. Yeah, I like brooks A big doesn't you don't sound like there's a question mark at the end of that. I like brooks. I love brooks. Okay You love them. Yeah as much as max loves dogs Max you got a who's back for us Fucking dogs that was You don't you know who's back never done a who's back once in my life. What about your chin? Good point Your chins are back

My alternate who's back is brice harper. You got in a brawl today. Wait I don't think that's good. Your chin's back Max you gotta hit the squat rex this week I Max how quickly realistically do you think it's gonna take for you to grow that facial hair back? I don't know Not as quickly as you think you're an italian Like I haven't shaved in eight years

That doesn't matter how it does possible max max thinks max fell for the you know, like if you shave it it rose back faster That's true. That basically is what they do to to get 13 year olds to buy razors. No, that's true I can confirm that doesn't work I did it and it worked. You just kept on shaving every day Yeah, and my my my brother my dad like my dad sounds like you guys None of them can no so you you all your facial hair is duty hard work Yeah, coincidence. I don't think so Okay, he's Hank is proven every day in middle school. I would just shave my face

I'm being dead serious Oh Max you got this I want it gone your face Sure everything all that gone. All right. We got a great interview with JJ watt Let's get to that and then we're gonna announcement on the lottery ball machine after that This interview with JJ watt is brought to you by rocket money

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My lord steward steward. He's a steward. Uh, the news is out. He has purchased A interest in burnley fc. Yes, uh, he is part of the championship league soon to be the epl Although they're getting promoted. Yes winners of the championship. Yeah winners of the championship now now let's start there Are you a frontrunner because you bought a team that was already promoted? Well at the time we started it wasn't promoted. Okay. Yes. So partially But yeah, why not? Yeah, how did you get involved with them? I've been looking for a long time into into ownership and trying to find the right opportunity and trying to find the right situation We were actually talking

um looking at a different situation somebody said have you spoken to burnley and We knew that when we were looking at this we wanted to wait until we found the right one to go all in with and um Burnley kind of ticked all the boxes with the ownership group with the manager in place with the town It's a very small old mill town Been through some adversity over the years, but the club's been around since 1882 Fanbase lives and dies every single week and they do a lot of good work in the community. They have a great fan base So we're really really excited about it now. How does it work when you buy a minority stake in a team?

Do you are do you have like a seat at the table? Are you going to get to make decisions because fans are going to be pissed at you if you if things go bad Like can they point to you and be like do you speak from experience? Uh, yes, unfortunately I do Uh, we listen swansy's in the middle of the table in the championship league We're going to work our way back up and if we don't that's just how life goes But are you ready for it? If like they will point to you. Oh, no doubt. There is no doubt that they're going to point to me um So I'm I don't have that level of see I mean at the end of the day it all comes down to

Uh, it's a sport like that's the that's the fascinating part about investing in a sport at the end of the day You can do everything that you want to do from a front office standpoint. You can try and create everything Possible but the ball could hit the post and go in the net the ball could hit the post and go out of the net And it still comes down to That's the beauty of it. That's why I love the English primarily because it's relegation is promotion It's there's the consequences are so much higher. You should make your wife the coach She's a professional soccer player. She she would be I mean, she's brilliant at it. Yeah, our coach is pretty pretty good I heard you I

Before this you came in you were saying he sucks. I read the first first order. I mean, I'm trying to knock I'm trying to knock his value down because every club in the entire world is trying to take him away Everybody everybody's trying to take him and you should you should play. He's been very loyal. You should you like I've tried So during lockdown COVID We back in Wisconsin we got we got some land and I built the fields for my wife for her to practice because she was still playing and I was going out there to be her training partner and I was pretty confident myself going into it and I am no longer confident myself Yeah, were you playing goalie? Yeah

She fired that ball past my head at such a velocity that we made a rule where she had she couldn't kick from 18 yards Or closer because yeah, take your head clear off now. What do you say that you built a field for? You mowed along I mowed along I put the net up and I lined the field I did the line. No, you built a field. That's very romantic. Yeah, you you built your wife a field Yeah, you do feel the dream. Yeah, if you build it, she will come. Yeah Wait, so are you gonna go how many games are you gonna go to because that is like That would be the fun part like you see

Ryan Reynolds and like how people are going nuts for for those guys Yeah, so we were over there a couple weeks ago. We took in a game We won three to zero against wigan and we're going back over there on friday Because on monday is our final home game. I'm gonna lift the trophy. You're gonna have the parade You are a frontrunner. Oh, I mean it does not hurt. It does not hurt to come and join the parade. Yeah So make the case if anybody out there's a free agent. Why should they support Burnley? I full disclosure I'm a west ham fan. Okay. Uh come on new irons. Yeah, I think that's what they say The same colors but same colors. I I literally so when I was trying to figure out what teams to root for in the epl

I just kind of asked what who who would fit in with My style with the teams that I already root for and our friend tom fornelly Advised me to cheer for uh for west ham. What made what made him say that? Well, um, they're not very good But they've got a lot of hooligans and uh, they uh, they're owned by I think a pornographer Oh, yeah, right up here. But I mean, yeah, totally. So I I'm I'm bonk. I'm not like straight up I'm not I'm not died in the wool as a west ham supporter But if I was a free agent sell me on burn. Well, so you already have the colors in your closet So you it's a pretty easy transition. So Burnley like I said, it was founded in 1882 and it was part of the original

English football league and creating English football. Basically, um, it's an old mill town Really really old school been through some difficult times the people are incredible They show up and fill a 22,000 seat stadium every week and they Live and die every single week with the club and It's we're playing a beautiful style of football right now for the last Eight to ten years we played an extremely hard-nosed tough physical style of football Vincent companies kind of come in and transition the team to a very beautiful flowing style and I mean, we just score goals We score a lot of goals. Okay. I I because I I don't think swans. He's gonna go up at any anytime soon

So I might have to I might have to root for Burnley You're welcome. You're welcome aboard the place is nuts. The people are great The drinks are are quite good. Okay. Now. Do you Was there a moment when you invested in the team and you're like this all just started because I woke up early and started watching soccer Because that like obviously your wife played soccer, but I feel like you were watching Uh, epl early morning saturdays and sundays. It feels like for a long time 100% so back in 2010 2011 I started to watch the premier league They have it on obviously mbc does a great job with it

And I started to get into it then and I that was when I didn't know anything So I was trying to find my team. I think that it's come a long way since then But there's still a lot of people in that boat today Trying to figure out. Okay. I like watching the epl But I don't have a team and reason to affiliate with somebody and that's honestly what k and r trying to do is trying to Give people a reason to be on team Burnley. It's the greatest hangover Move on like a second because I remember before I had kids like there were the saturdays and sundays Just getting up and laying on the couch and watching a ball move on grass was like therapeutic

And then it's a perfect nap. I mean, no offense soccer, but it is a perfect nap sport It's it it can provide that because you can you can usually like it you'll like listen You'll be half listening falling asleep and then when they get really loud you're like, oh, shit Sick, no, it's they've done such a good job with it. And I think that america really has come along I mean if you just think about the conversation around soccer in the last 10 years how it's grown Um and the women have been doing an incredible job And we're we're excited about the women's team at burnley too and helping there and they're in the third division right now And we're working to get them up to the first division

But I think soccer's come a long way and I think it still has a long way to go with the world cup and the olympics coming to america In the next five six years It's it's really been fun to watch and i'm excited to be a part of the next phase. What's your hashtag and what's your your team slogan? Yeah, so it's utc, which is up the clerits. So we're the clerits clerit and blue are our colors and it's up the clerits up the clerits Okay, I like that. I like that. What what um, do you feel like you kind of turn your back on american football? This feels a little bit like that Benedict Arnold a little bit. I mean, I think there's still going to be some involvement there I don't know in what capacity, but there definitely will be and I think that there can be a bridge gap

I think I can help gap the bridge. Okay, big bridge. It's got to be a big bridge. Yeah Maybe get them to start playing more football real football Maybe um working on a little bit less of the the flopping that is yeah something i'm yeah Embellishing yeah, that's what they call it. Yeah the embellishments are a bit much, but I've noticed in the women's game They don't embellish as much hardly at all. It's unbelievable like when I watch my wife's games and I watch the women play They pride themselves on not embellishing like they'll like have like a broken leg and just keep playing Yeah, there was there was literally I believe it was Lynn Williams the other day was playing with like a Splint attached to her arm and she scored the game winning goal with the splint

Neymar would be in the hospital never he'd be dead. Yeah, just just cremate me. Yeah wait So uh american football we are getting so we saw the draft. Yeah Uh otas are starting. Yeah. Have you had the feeling like oh, this is you know my my Biological clock here like the calendar year. This is right when I should be getting back with the boys I have had the exact opposite which is really good for me Which I watched like I watched on it I'll scroll through instagram and there'll be clips of guys that training at otas and they're flying around They're doing drills and I'm literally looking at it like

Thank god I don't have to go out there and try and tackle that guy or thank god I don't have to try and go out there and be faster than that guy like I don't know how I Mentally switch so much in five months But like all of a sudden I feel like I couldn't I couldn't go out there and compete So so during the draft your two teams were very active with each other, right? So you have to you have to tell us who fleece who? The Texans are the Cardinals. Hmm. I think if you actually look at it

They kind of both accomplished. No what they want to account. No, I mean somebody got fleece JJ JJ watt trade. Well, what do you you we don't know we have no clue No, but that's the fun is like it's right after the draft you get to say Oh, like I think I think the Texans are basically saying to their fan base Hey, we've we've gone through a very rough period. Now we're going for it now We're actually doing it now. We're going all in we're trying to win and we're trying to win now We hired D'Amico. We got these two draft picks. It's going to be great Arizona Seems to be saying the opposite a little bit. They seem to be saying hey, we're loading up

We're getting a ton of picks we're moving back. We're doing these things We're going to really go after it in the next few years. So he's just two different directions, Arizona I mean for today, we don't know we don't know in the long term and I also have no idea I don't know if anybody does how the draft value like the trades and everything actually works. Right. Yeah Speaking of draft we we mentioned this on monday's show But we were going through because we agree like draft grades are dumb You don't know how these guys are going to turn out Every fan wants to go and see their you know an a next to their draft grade

So you just go there's a million people grading the draft go find the a and just read that one But we had some funny uh old takes exposed. I don't know if you know any of these but Uh a guy named chris baldlin on on the houston culture map wrote an article saying Texans will rue the night they took pizza boy jj watt over nick fairly houston lover I do recall. Okay. Pizza boy is a good pizza boy. Maybe you were pizza boy before dav was pizza boy No, he's pizza man. He is pizza man. He's a man child. Yeah. No, I was pizza boy. It was a hell of a job Yeah, I can't lie. That's a good job. It is. It's a great college job Yeah, you just drive around listening to music and you pay, you know, you get tips cash

How long did you work as a pizza guy pizza boy pizza boy pizza boy pizza boy? No, I wasn't a grown man It was literally Four or five months. It was my transition from central michigan to wisconsin I went to a local community college and I delivered pizzas and uh and worked out the uh the other ones were karrington harrison I don't know who that is said jj watt has bust written all over him Oh, yeah, and then there's also he also included a facebook post by the Texans saying with the 11th pick in the 2011 draft huesons Texans selected wisconsin defense been jj watt and everyone is just saying no boo

Not a good decision. Did you read that draft night? Like did you Consume any of that and use it? Yes. So draft night. It's fascinating. I mean you get drafted You're in new york city. Obviously do all the media and everything around it and then you go back to your hotel room And you can't I mean the adrenaline is just flowing through you can't sleep I mean your whole life literally just changed So I sat there in bed and you do you just scroll through it all you kind of read it and I'm sitting there like jacked up I'm excited. I just finished all my media talking all positive about hueson And then I'm laying there in bed just scrolling through my phone like wait a second. Yeah, nobody fucking likes me

Yeah, why do these people not likely? Yeah, this whole city and and it did for me trigger like the okay I'm gonna I'm gonna show these people. I'm gonna come in and I'm gonna give them every single reason To root for me and that's kind of my goal is to overturn these fans and make them understand And get them on my side and it kind of became a challenge of mine And I'm I'm very fortunate that they were open minded enough to switch and come along with me because houston is Is literally like family now. I was just there last week. I'm going back there tomorrow and Houston truly feels like family every time I step in that city

Can you be an ambassador for houston real quick because every time we go there and it might be the the events that we show up for It's like the final four if there's a super bowl it takes 40 minutes to get anywhere in houston Yes, no, I can't ambassador for the traffic or the humidity. Those are the two things. I will say The the chamber of commerce there needs to get to work But for food and fans Houston is the greatest is the most underrated food city in possibly the world. It is good How do you avoid just getting fat as hell in houston if you don't go that? Yeah, that's why I mean it's so good and you're bouncing back and forth between houston and wisconsin when you were playing there

And that's that's gotta be tough sustained shape. Yeah, it's almost more impressive now that I think about it. Yeah Are you are you still lifting? Yeah, but not nearly as much like if I miss a day. I miss a day. It's not a big deal It's it's a way more stress-free way of living my life I I just so when I pulled up here I had to go to the bathroom really badly and I didn't know we were in front of your building So I asked the driver. Can you let me out? He let me out. I went to wall greens duane reed. They don't have a public bathroom Yeah, no coffee shop. They don't have new york doesn't do public bathrooms, apparently

So I went across the street to a triple crown. Yep. Irish pub. Yep. And I was like, hey, can I just buy I'll give you five bucks to go to the bathroom. So just I got a pint of Guinness Went to the bathroom came back out bar owner apparently a massive fan lived in ireland is from ireland We happen to play the same golf course in ireland and uh, he bought me a pint. So chugged a pint and came up here Oh, hell. Yeah, it was great. It was great. Yeah, that's that's kind of a In the back of your head, you know when you're stopping a five dollar bill being like i'm gonna use the bathroom You know when you come out of the bathroom, you're like, that's jj watt. It's yeah Yeah, there were like three guys at the bar drinking beer. Yeah, I mean, it's what noon on a tuesday. I love it

You could have just gone and been like, hey, I'm jj watt. Can I piss in your bathroom? There's a sign on the door that specifically said bathroom is for paying customers only on this door and then when you turn right That door. So I was like, all right. I'm not gonna be a dick. I'm yeah I feel like if you're a three-time defensive player that you can just say like, hey, can jj watt use your urinal Yeah How's the golf wait? Well, uh, one last question about lifting. So are you squatting for weight still? Yeah, yeah, no squatting is my favorite act. I I enjoy feed the wolf. What are you squatting right now? I mean, I don't go above 405 anymore. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I usually yeah

405 only on like what i'm feeling good. Yeah, I mean, it's you know, you get a couple cat billy knows It's uh, you just hit some casual or actually you're only a bencher, aren't you? No, no, I squat too So I was my best lifts on that topic. Were you really like doing 585 as your work set at your prime? In my prime. Yes. In my prime. It was uh, we did some crazy shit, man Like my brother's and I'll talk about it my trainer back home. Yeah, we did some crazy Like what was your set to wait? Like were you doing three by four 585? No, that was 585 was three to five Like we'd get up to fives. Um But the most I ever remember physically putting on the bar

It was I know it was right around 700. I don't know if it was 695 or 705 Do you just get instantly hungry after that? It was uh, it was fucking crazy, man My trainer and I talk about all the time We had some unbelievable days and some of the shit was just dumb That's probably why I ended up in the injury position I did But also there were times where you'd finish a workout and you just kind of look around like Nobody else on the fucking planet is doing what we just yeah, that was the greatest feeling ever But again, like that probably also led a little bit to to the injuries because I couldn't I couldn't not do that

Right every part of me was like you have to out do yourself now Nobody else can do that now you out do that and it just led to I feel like a lot of players now They don't lift for heavy weights So were you like one of like almost a dinosaur sometimes where it's like you're the only guy who's lifting for heavy weights I do think that players and trainings trainers have gotten a lot smarter about like you don't need like the The risk reward for getting up to those levels of weights It doesn't make any sense because you have a much greater chance of hurting yourself Then you do of gaining that 0.01 chance of improvement

So there's a lot of guys doing it at just staying at a certain level and it's because it is all about being on the field If you're not on the field you can't do shit Right and it's something that I talked to my brother a lot about because he grew up with me and we grew up the same style And he wants to go heavy heavy heavy and I try and tell him. Hey Just don't make the same mistakes I made like be smart about it If you're not on the field nobody gives a shit if you can squat 700 pounds Yeah, you're not playing so have you ever had a big squat workout and then Woken up the next day and you've got practice or you've got a game and you're like

Oh, shit I shouldn't have done that leg because anybody out there that's squatted for the first time in a long time without Having done that exercise, you know the feeling where you just feel disabled. You can't walk Have you ever worked out too close to an important game? No, because because if I'm if I'm having that feeling that close to a game That means I haven't squatted in a long time leading up to it That would be bad. But the first squad of the off season is exactly what you talk about I mean you go to sit on the toilet the next day and it's about yeah to get up. You're like, holy

I like that pain though It is something about it that like feels like when you just the next day when you're like, oh, my body is like so sore I actually did yeah. Yeah when's the last time you had it? Uh, I've I've been actually trying to get back in the gym doing a little lifting Um, trying to go lower weights because I'm gonna break my back. I'm trying to get to the thousand pound club It's gonna take a while. Nice. So we'll see. So I I'm trying to remember is that just bench and squatters that bench squat and and deadlift So you could have gotten it what with one one and a half of those lifts

Easily, I mean back in a day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't sound as cool Thousand pound club when you just said you know that was squatted 785 That was a big high school thing like we got the t-shirts that said like 500 pound club six. Yeah I mean, I was a big deal in my 20s. I was definitely in the thousand pound club I just don't I'm trying to see if I can get back to it, but I'm trying not to get injured. That's the part I mean, yeah, that's not available. Right. You're not useful. Right. Right. So you talked about your brother There's some rumors out there flying around that you are still entertaining an idea of maybe playing for the Steelers next year And as our good friend Jersey Jerry said he just looks like a stealer, you know

And you have to admit like you've seen yourself in the mirror. You look like a stealer. Thank you I appreciate that. That's a compliment. The Steelers fans are literally one of the best fan base I've ever witnessed in my life everywhere. I go. Hey, I love you, but I'm a huge Steelers fan So I love your brother. Hey, come to the Steelers. Hey, come play. We love Pittsburgh. I'm like, it's unbelievable um I mean if the rumors Keep Burnley in the news and make it a big deal that we're with Burnley. Sure But uh, no, I will not be playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers

I will be going to a game at Heinz field to watch my brother play. Mm-hmm. It's not Heinz field anymore, dude It's all right. It's all right. It's field. What is it even now? It's uh, I feel I love one Accra sure. Yeah, we just put the ketchup bottles back in. Yeah, I do love when a when a new company takes over It's like, no, no, we're not calling it that. No. Yeah. What are you trying? I mean last time you were on the show, you did say that if you got what 10 million dollars to come play in December. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah week 17 10 million dollars. That's still on the table So you're gonna stay in shape for that? Uh, no, okay No, all right, that's that's the I told you I told you last time that's the whole reason that I'm I can tell you right now

For a fact I'm not coming back like I to for me to play this season I would have to be training right now and my body if I went out there to play right now It would not perform. I haven't run since the last game of the season So like I could not physically do it. Yeah What uh, do you think you're gonna watch like football like we watch football like you're gonna watch every game? Um, no, I definitely won't watch every game. Uh, I'm gonna watch it much more as a fan. I mean, so you're a casual We can confidently say you're a casual You know ball, but if I get into broadcasting and do something like that, then I will certainly watch more

Um, but I'm gonna watch my brother's games for sure I'm gonna obviously keep up with Houston in the Cardinals and then a little Badgers. Whatever's good. Of course Yeah, is that is that on the table for you to become do like some broadcasting television work? I would like to at least give it a shot. I mean, I want to be around the game. I love the game too much I want to be around the game. I want to be a part of it and I do feel like I have knowledge and experience That can Help enhance the viewer's experience and tell talk about things that they might not see or things that I've learned over the year Yeah, it sounds like you need you need some reps. You need some practice if you're gonna be a color guy on tv

You know a lot of announcers can just step into it like jay. They do simulated games and our good friend jake marsh here He's he's made the offer tom brady. I don't know if you'd like to extend the same offer to jj watt that if you want to get reps in the booth Jake will be your play-by-play guy You'll watch film and then you'll just act like you're commenting a game jake. Is that fair? He's done a great job with the water dogs. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it free of charge whenever you want free Yes, I mean, you're not gonna make a lot of great career out of him doing things for free. Well with you for practice Yeah, let's do it. Yeah, I'll take buddy. You can pay you can pay me for the rights to jake. Yeah

Um, we do own the water dogs. It's interesting that you brought that up I I'll trade you one percent in the water dogs for one percent of your Whatever percent and burn and we'll I will throw in one percent of swansy Oh, well if you throw in one percent of the washington team the commanders. Well, so I've got Right now New Zealand breakers too. If rg3 gets his one percent Then I think I'm gonna get one percent of rg3 rg3's so you get like whatever that is one one thousand It's probably still 70 million. I think yeah, it's a lot of money. It's too much Bill that's that's the thing people don't understand about ownership is uh, it's expensive large. Yeah very large

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So jj you mentioned being like a bridge between american football and british football. Yes, there's some rumors out there this off season I don't know if you've seen them that the nfl is considering starting a european division Yes, well the teams have you have you heard anything about that and is that Factoring at all into your newfound interest in great britain. I think it would certainly be interesting. I have not heard anything about formalization of that Just purely on from a logistic standpoint. It is an absolute nightmare to how you would possibly make that work I do think that if they had their way that would absolutely be in the cards I just think making that work not only from a lifestyle living standpoint from a competition standpoint

How would you possibly make that work? It'd be tough. You basically only have to play each other in the european division And I think they're saying they're having facilities in new york Where they basically come for like a month. Where do their families live? Like where do your kids go to school? Yeah, it sounds like a nightmare, honestly Like it's really really tough. That's the stuff that it it's absolutely sounds great Even like right now the germany games the england games all that they're incredible and they're awesome And we love them But it also at the same time it is extremely difficult on the players on your bodies on on everything that comes along with it

So yeah, it's pretty cool. Germany's far. That's a very far. How's your golf game? trash What are you shooting right now? It is getting better which I will say which i'm proud of but like my best round this year so far is in 96 Oh, that is trash. No, you're right. That is trash. But that's my best round. So and you're playing a lot I'm not playing as much as I want to see I think it's gonna pick up over the summer You got it like that's I feel like that's the golf the the the golden like equation is You can't play enough and still be trash. You got to either be like i'm not gonna play like I don't play

I'm trash. Yes, so I can be like, well, I don't play that's why I'm trash If you start playing a lot and you're still trash. Yeah, that's tough. I'm on the edge of that zone Yeah, I'm on the edge of that zone. You got to find it. It's tough. It's tough because I get so pissed because I'm big Like I'm strong. I'm athletic. I consider myself to be an athlete. None of it fucking helps me out there Yeah, yeah, do better than your brother. So yes, okay, that's uh, then you're fine. Yeah, do you walk or do you drive? I drive Yeah, that's I can't walk really I walked to the the waste management open when I did the program there. I walked all 18 Uh, it's just that is a commitment and it's a lot of walking

Have you ever uh, like if you just need a workout real quick If you thought about just jumping and like we have a planet fitness around the corner just like working out with everybody else Going to see how fast they hit the lunk alarm on you. I'm probably gonna do it at the hotel gym today Yeah, no free weights at the hotel. I know it is but I mean, I also don't need to work out like I used to like my workouts now are Significantly different and shambles at the moment. Honestly It's a bit of a you look like shit. You look terrible dude. You look so fat Oh last time you were on you said that you were looking forward to smoking weed for the first time Hasn't happened yet, but apparently your fans are very excited. Oh, no way shocking. Wait, they found a way to bully you

No way shocking by us via us stuf honor may have dropped something off Yeah, I don't know if you if you if this is your first experience with We then yeah, no, don't you'll you'll die. Yes, you'll call the cops I've taken a few of those when he was I mean when I watch those islanders things. He's just eating every Oh No one eats like stew. No, no one eats like stew. He just goes crazy Frank in the office today, by the way, I think so I have to at least shake his hand We should get him get go Billy. Go grab him. He'll probably come in and be like, he's gotta be riding a high

The devil's one. Yeah, I'm a nix fan. I mean life is good for him. He bodied me yesterday So we're in a little I tried to get him to come to the stream and he just was like he had I went up to him and he was just eating all his mcdonald's For lunch and I was just like frank. I think you should come to stream and he's just like ate a fry I'm going to the game. I was like, all right. Well that negotiation is over. Yeah, uh, should we talk about the elfin in the room? What is it? Hank? Oh, yeah, we should so last time you were on you told hank just guess 99 guess I I offered it up jj one meter. It's worse than that. Yeah, you're jj one hater. Yeah, you offered it up

Uh, since then so it was a soup bowl 99 is hit twice And hank still doesn't have the number so that's two months It's twice in two months twice in two months and hank is the the the pretty much He's the only one who's still in the jj one hate. That's not true And he he's still like come on I make a lot of mistakes. I'm a stupid person No, I don't you know, I say things I say things and in in the moment

I was like, this is the right thing to do. This is what I should do and then I get distracted It doesn't happen. I just forget about it and I moved on and then it you know blew up in my face. Here he is Get the mic up Frank Frank and jj watt finally he has it going. Yeah How's it going? All right. So frank. What what do you uh, I think jj is a bigger fan of of you than he Then you are of him, uh, you finally meet him What what do you got to say to him? Great NFL career. Uh, thank you frank gonna be in the hall of fame. Okay. I just

Would have liked to see you in a dolphin uniform. Yeah, it'd be nice Any anything about, you know, maybe not staying on the field. Miami's not a bad place to be Yeah, how do you feel about the dolphins this year? I just hoped that they could keep to upright Yeah, because they got so much speed It's just the offensive line scares the hell out of me. Are you like I mean you got to be riding high right now with the devils Oh I'm so glad they won that game. Yeah, what is the number one food at the Prudential Center? Uh, it's probably the chicken tenders because everything there is bad

It's bad Frank, weren't you saying last year that jj was he was looking washed up? Yeah, that's why you hang it up right frank. I mean, that's why you that's why you stop playing Didn't say like he looks a little like he's lost a step. You were saying that The Cardinals are so irrelevant I didn't even I didn't even think twice about it Did you ever make a jj watt song? Did you ever have one? No, I never had jj watt song. That's probably for the best But you you always were a jj watt fan

Yeah, I respect him. He played for he played for the Texans and the Cardinals. I mean two teams Who cares whatever you guys won since 1979 or whatever it was. Yeah, but They're not they're not teams. I really think think of thing twice of it. It's just like that. They're you're not a Frank's radar I mean, I mean dolphins It's fine if you were winning seven Super Bowls in the same amount of time 20 for the last 20 years too. I admit that So there's no so so it wasn't like Boo Texans Boo Texans or or yay Texans. They were that's fair Frank's got a lot of enemies that he that come before the Houston Texans. It's like Kevin Harlan or uh, buster only or scott then

Yeah, Frank. I love your content. I'm very thankful for all of your cooking videos for all of your devil I got uh, I filmed two cooking videos over the weekend. They'll be released in the next couple weeks or I did one. Can we get a can we get a empanadas Deep fryer. No, no, I didn't do you find my cooking me oven You made them yourself. You like folded the dough over them and everything Frank can't wait if you had had JJ's career. Do you think maybe you would have played through some of those injuries? I mean, those are tough injuries. I mean wouldn't care bicep. Yeah, you're you're trying you're trying. He's not

He respects you. Thank you. He respects the hell I appreciate that. Yeah, usually he'll he'll he'll unload on someone Frank, what do you think about kyler murray? I think you should have told baseball I mean with the contracts at baseball, I wouldn't blame them. All right. Well, frank. Thank you. I mean JJ is a huge fan of you Frank, I appreciate you are a legend. Keep it up. You're a legend. Yeah. All right. Thanks. All right, major brother Thanks, Frank. Thank you, Frank. Appreciate it. Maybe we get JJ on a raw dog. Maybe raw dog with JJ. I love a good dog Yeah, I love a good raw dog JJ sometimes. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we should do that on a t-shirt He's got something else

Do you have your salt packet on you right now? Of course. Yeah, there it is. Love it. Yes. Best food at the Mets game. Is it really the prime rib sandwich? It's the steak sandwich. Yeah, it's like pat lafritus. Yeah, pat lafritus. Yeah, it is so good It might be the best thing that could be ever served at any stadium ever. Yeah. Wow. That's bold. Miami marlins What do they have part of my cheese steak? Yep. Good call. Yeah, of course That's what you meant to say Frank. You meant to say that. Yeah, no Frank meant to say that. Um, all right. Well, thanks, Frank Appreciate it. Thank you, Frank. Great meeting of the minds. Yeah, Frank the tank. He's a legend. Made my day Yeah, I mean

I'm happy he didn't I because he usually will be like I mean you guys were trying. We weren't he has exploded like Blake Griffin came And he was like you kind of stink now. Yeah, right and he'll like say like someone will get injured Be like this guy is like how can you not play through this and it's like Frank. I'm on it. Yeah So he yeah, he I we put him through that was like a John taff or stress test It was and he passed because usually he just get him going and he'll just be like, yeah that one time Yeah, that leg injury you probably should have played What's your favorite Frank the tank clip of all time? I know you're one I didn't know about until you guys showed it to me It's the ribs

The oh, what was he doing the other day? It was one of he was just he was just in his kitchen. I liked the burger one from the other day. The burger one was good Dingfrazer done. Oh, yeah, dingfrazer done dingfrazer done Or any of that is I thought he was gonna have a deep fireball that was gonna get Pretty interesting. I can't wait to see him trying to do the whole dough thing because if you saw his pizza Where he tried to make his own pizza that was he had a hard time with the dough the uh, no the ribs one is just what the It got too hot outside. Oh, I all right. So before we go back to Hank Uh, we're good. We covered. No, no, no Frank came in right right in the middle of that. I mean Hank

You I don't want to be rude and interrupt you Hank because I know that you had a lot to say Are you gonna guess 99 now? Like what is your strategy when you guess what is the strategy? That's the problem. So that's what I was saying. I originally like I have ADHD. I'd go back and forth I was like, I'm gonna do 99 stick with 99 And then I just get so I did it for like at least two days And then I just get so worried that 17's gonna hit without me picking it So why don't you just stay with 17? I do but then sometimes people give me a hot tip with like Somebody saying 99 someone's some solid logic and I'm like fuck that makes sense. I'm gonna pick that number

But now I'm pretty committed to 17 unless somebody beats you. Well, what about I'm with 17 now. Yeah All right, so should we do it? Let's just do let's do this one will count. This will be official Okay, so JJ gets to pick two. Are you not gonna do 99 in front of him? He's got to be 17 now. Now 99 in front of JJ. I'll take 99 Well, I Yeah, all right Hank, have you ever gotten this? No, every game caster must get five a year. Yeah, you're not trying if you don't Really, is that is that something you would say? Like 17's in a terrible terrible position, but I'm still gonna pick it. Okay, but like

I didn't know maybe in the past. There isn't there really isn't Very big cat has the prime c. He's still only got it twice. Yeah. Hank, you fix that thing behind you the the numbers 17 18 I'll take 99 Six Like the hidden ball trick. Yeah, no, but it's the hidden ball trick But you're also you want you want 17 or I should be able to the one that says numbers

Do you want no no you can't do this? I'll give you I'll take six you take 17 Go ahead Take 17. No Are you officially off 17? No, I'm gonna only trade it to Hank. No You can have this is no you want 17. That's Hank's number. Okay. Well, I'm on team. Hey right now This has come full circle. I'm on team. Hank. He's not on team JJ. I have shit. He says about you You know what? You know what? No, you know what? I don't have a soccer team that I've ever supported because I don't really like soccer Burnly burn

That's that's burn. I have officially declared a soccer team. You're gonna hit the number. I will give you 17 I don't want it. Fuck you. PFT. Would you like 17? I'll take 17. Yeah, that's nice. I'll so I have 99 Yeah, you can take 99. I'll give you 99. No, no, you can have 99 Bernie was found in 1882 82 is your number. Hey, do you want 17 for me? Can I have it and as well as six? No, no, it's just one. Okay, okay Billy's got six 69. So what do I have now? I have 99. You have 99. Do you want to trade back? I'll give you 17 back for 99 Let's just pick two new numbers

Yeah, yeah, okay. I'll go, uh, I'll go 76. I'll go 55 Uh, wow, you're really jake 18 max Uh, 20. What was yours JJ? 82 82 I want 55 76 Oh shit 99's buried Nice

So close How do you know? How do you know? Because it's got the line underneath it No, the line's at the top That would have been the greatest move Oh, it would have been incredible Oh Hank, look at this way, it looks like six It's a good sign. We're getting closer

Six has never hit. Six and 26 Wow, oh yeah, six and 26 never hit. Damn So that's how bad Hank is. He picked a number that's literally never hit It's a good strategy. Odd's won this one. I mean, Roulette Yeah, he's never gonna get it though I'm a soccer team now. I'm excited Yeah, there you go. Um, we Wait, so are we in the we're not in the Premier League?

We're on Monday. We hoist the championship trophy and then we start next season in the Premier League Are you gonna be in Arsenal in the Premier League? Yeah, no, they're second Oh, what was that? What was all that drama? They were good. They were first place all season long and then they've choked Oh, that was what I wanted to ask. Roulette question. Last question promo code take Joggers, Q zips, polos, hoodies, great golf gear. They got shorts too for summer Promo code take for 20% off your first purchase. So

I'm actually curious what you thought about Yanis' comments about failure. Yeah What did you think? I like and you are a Bucks fan. Yeah, I like Yanis. I love Yanis. I love his attitude I love his mindset. I agree with his thoughts. I know Earlier in my career, I would have been like, no, like I would have said, no, that's you got to have the mom of mentality You got to have that Jordan like killer mentality The older I get in the further along I get in the more perspective that I get in life I absolutely Agree with the honest comments. I completely see people on the other side and I understand why

Somebody would say that's not the winning mentality but in terms of as an athlete how you have to Mentally live your life to not put yourself into a really really shitty way, which I can say I've been in before I love his perspective and I love the way that he went about it. Damn. Okay. Well, now you changed mine Well, no, you didn't change it. It was a failure. Did you fail at the lottery ball? Uh, no, because did you fail every single day? Yes when you don't hit it? Yes. Yeah, that's my mom You're a tougher man But that's why I've won four times you've won zero times

That was my first ever attempt. Yeah, that's true. What was uh, not to get into like dark stuff But what was the what was the hardest party like what was the hardest stretch of your career where you're like Maybe this isn't gonna go my way. Maybe this isn't you know for me Well, 2012 2014 2015. I got the 3d offensive player of the years and then 2016 I was injured 2017. I was injured 2018. I came back. Thankfully and I actually had a good year It was all pro that year, but then 2019 I got injured and it was just the the amount of mental stress and Toughness that you put on yourself knowing that you don't want to let your teammates down

Knowing that you don't want to let the fans down knowing that you're getting paid Millions of dollars to play this game and you're sitting in a training room Not on the field like that weighs so heavily on your mind because all you want to do is get back out there For everybody involved and you feel like you're letting everybody down and to me I wasn't Able to handle that properly and that's why the stress just piled up and piled up Um as I got older and I learned and got more perspective on Life and what's like truly important. I was able to cope with it better

But that's probably the thing I wish I was better at and my wife has helped me a ton with because she's been through a Couple major injuries herself. So us going through that together Helped a lot, but I really put myself through the ringer every time I got injured like man Fans are looking at you and your teammates are looking at you and everybody wants you to be out there and you're not That shit is very tough. Yeah, I think we do definitely as sports fans like don't We don't give enough credit and also are probably too hard on athletes when they get injured because it's not Their fault that they're injured and you know, we just want to see them out there. Is there

There can't be a worse feeling I think everyone who's played sports or any type of injury that second after the injury when you're like, oh, fuck It's like i'm injured Dude when I broke my leg because like I knew something was wrong I heard the I heard it all go down and I tried to stand up and take two steps And I literally like it had pulverized my knee and it broke every it shattered my bone And so I tried to take two steps on and I knew it was gone and that's why I was just balling crying on tv Yeah, because I knew in that moment

It was the third game of the season and I knew I was out again for the second year in a row And I knew that I had to walk off this field and go I had at least nine months probably a year ahead of me And all you think is I just let everybody down again. Yeah, that's that's the worst feeling ever And nobody understands it and I agree with you like we've normalized injuries Right so much to the point where it's like, oh he tore his ACL He'll be back But you don't think about the nine months that he's going through to have to get back in the mental and emotional stress

I think about this slide with chase young, you know, he's gone through a tough time and every week last year people like Why isn't he back this week? Why isn't he back this week? But nobody's really thinking like Maybe he's gonna put himself at danger of missing another nine months to a year if he does get back out there And he's thinking the same thing. He's like, yeah, these people drafted me high. I'm supposed to be this great player I've had such a good career. I want to be out there. Like there's no he wants to be out there too Yeah, it's it's they actually should ban the the term minor surgery because there is no minor surgery Like if you're going into someone's body, that's Surgery like that will always happen. Yeah, or they'll be like, oh, he's got minor knee surgery

He'll be back in four weeks and you're sitting there like Why isn't he back right now? It's minor surgery. It's crazy. Yeah, but I understand it from the other side I mean you sit there as a fan. You're like this guy's getting paid millions of dollars I don't care if he's hurt not hurt. He needs to be out there like it It's I see the juxtaposition and it's very difficult to do and and I see why if a guy gets hurt multiple times You start to be like, all right get him out of here. I don't want him But at the end of the day the true if you truly break it all down That is still a human being that has to live with whatever's going on every single day for the rest of their life

Yeah, it's like Lamar at the end of this year when he was he was hurt going into the playoffs He had a torn pcl and people are like I think shifter was tweeting out like well Usually you would expect a player to be backed by it's been four weeks since he since he tours pcl And it's like well, wait a second. Not only does Lamar have a pcl injury, which is a very serious knee injury But also he's standing on the doorstep of getting paid a shitload of guaranteed money And if he does some if something catastrophic happens to him when he's playing injured He's changing his entire family's future from that point on it's like have a little bit of humanity and understand like

Yeah, you want you want to be able to be like, yeah, go fucking Ravens. Let's go You know like you want to be able to cheer for him as a guy But also like if you were in his shoes, I guarantee you would do the exact same thing that he's doing Yeah, I mean there's there's no doubt about that that if you if you put yourself in somebody else's shoes and actually Think about what the what it means to your family and your life like it changes everything. Yeah fans are assholes We're assholes when when you were uh, when you're carted off the field Did you have the presence of mind to be like gotta give that thumbs up? I walked off. So I was proud of that So I had I had you probably injured yourself more

Absolutely So I had the like people around both arms and I walked off just sobbing crying But no, I didn't I didn't give a thumbs up there I just went but that was they followed the ambulance to the hospital with a helicopter and I was like Raw But they knew in the x-ray room like I got off the field They do an x-ray right there in the stadium and the doctor told my wife as soon as he got the x-ray back He's like, I'm not sure he's he's gonna play again. Jesus

Thankfully like at all that should be illegal Dad the doctor should always just give the just give the best scenario because I I mean I She she told me obviously and I heard that and I was like That's what really starts the fuck with you because you start to think about things and worry about things that might not even happen And obviously didn't happen. Doctor's like, you know, if he was a racehorse, they would have just But they really should just doctor should always just give like the 1% like yeah, he actually might be okay It might have just been a sprain He started to do that later because he's been my doctor my whole I love the guy to death

But then I started to come back from injuries and which sadly you nobody should ever be in this spot But with my peck when I came back from eight weeks in the peck after that he started to be like Okay, we're gonna give you the optimistic scenarios because you're you're actually doing it right and the peck stuff is always That's another injury where it's like Why do you even need a peck like get back out there? But there's some guys that do it without it It's crazy like db's and stuff like there's some db's that'll tear their peck and go out there and play the rest of the season because I don't know it's fucking wild. That's yeah Yeah, seems like the most painful injury or just like I think it's just it

Immobilizes your arm because you use your peck to to do everything. Yeah, right. It's all my peck injury I did not know what happened. So I tore my peck on one play Josh Jacobs knee hit me right in the bicep through my peck back Peck torn. I didn't know it zero pain literally clean off the bone zero pain I went to line up for the next play and put my hand in the ground and I couldn't lift it to put it in the ground So I stood up and in two points stands for the next play I went to run and my arm wouldn't move and then I came off the side I looked at the doctor and he goes. Yeah, your peck's literally gone. Oh What you played on just for one play

Yeah I would be sitting on the field being like just shoot me just end it I'd like to see a hockey player do that. Yeah. Um, all right. Well jj watt. Thank you as always, man We love having you on the show. Hank is a Burnley fan now. I think I might be I might have like a little Burnley might be like my guma. I'll get some gear in here. You decide. Yeah Yeah, that's really what it comes to is like if we get sent free shit, then we will cheer for Yeah, we're in I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah, we'll get you some gear. Do you want to lose or like Hank on your? He can't get the ladder ball. So so Hank we're turning Hank's story around Burnley's going up to the Premier League

We're now Burnley's on its way up. Hank's on its way up. Everything's everything's looking up. Okay. Hank can't get any more down Yeah, Hank's basically in the championship division of life right now. I've been I've been I've been relegated. You want to do one more? It's okay. You want to do one more? Yeah, one more to count and this will be the end This might be the first time since opening day we've had three official going 17 I'll take 99 six. Okay. You want trade? Sure. Okay. I'll take 99 you take 17 to stop 26

82 82 for jj 18 for jake 20 for max 69 for billy. What do you have Hank six? Man, what if 17 hits? I have 17. I yeah, I have 99 One You're hovering your heat-seeking single digits. Yeah You're around it back to back single digits. You're right there. Hank this is the close you ever been Which is it's good vibes. It's still pathetic vibes. No, we're we're on the uptrend Yeah, I've been so cool though if his first win was on one. Oh, imagine how cool that would have been should have picked one

We're about to lift in the studio and we got barbell. Like if you want to what are you gonna do? I was gonna do uppers Like oh, you you legitimately lifting here. It's not like yeah. No. Yeah. No Give me your workout. What are you gonna do? I was gonna do like bench then pull-ups Then like maybe biceps You're selling a little bit. Yeah I was like three by five. Yeah, you should adjust. You should said quad squad. How many weights do you got in here? We got up to 295

What's your 225 reps at probably around 10 All right, what about you pft? I think you could be him. I I'm about three. I think I haven't really lifted that much recently 225 if I was to do it right now. Yeah um I could probably right now today get like 27. All right, get out of here Are you with a torn peck? You are trying I know but did you bench ever after tearing your peck? I bench all the time. Oh, come on It's all the time. Do you lift bro? It's a man. A lot of guys tear the peck and they're like no more bench. Not jj. Yeah, no

They're different. Not I. All right. Thank you. Thanks guys. Appreciate Okay, let's wrap up the show um Hank getting the lottery ball on friday It actually devastated me. I'm not gonna lie on thursday when we taped it I don't think I've been in a bigger funk in a long long time Same I I it ruined me keep in mind We did two drawings during the jj one interview and a lot of that interview was talking about Hank not getting it

Oh, that's a good point. Oh, this is our third drawing today for the show technically Yeah, damn was Hank even there. I was I'm apparently a number one. Yeah two drawings So Hank you ruined this interview way to go Hank. Yeah, you ruined the interview. So I I loved jj I love the lottery ball. I do think it's a very fun thing that people can play along with at home at the end of shows So here's the plan This lottery ball machine is not going to make it to chicago what we're going to do We're going to keep going until we leave And then we're going to sell it and it probably would go for a good amount of money

so Whoever wants it they get it exactly as is they get this lottery ball machine And what I want to do is for any awls who do 3d printing or Work in some type of factory. I don't know about I want to build the biggest fucking lottery ball machine ever and maybe not the biggest ever but massive lottery ball machine that we can then open the new chicago office with and Then it's all bets are off Everyone's back to square one and everyone's got zero and we just see we still do one through a hundred

Yeah, and we just see who who ends up being the guy who can't get it for an extended period of time So it would be a totally we will retire this machine and all its records So everyone goes back to zero and we go from there This the last couple years have just been the pre-season right for the lottery ball Yeah, so really it wasn't even that big of a deal that hank didn't get the lottery ball ever for a really long time And maybe we'll figure out like real stakes or something that we can have attached to it Where like whenever you get it you get something to to kind of make it even bigger Because I do think it's a very fun part of the show that people love

So I agree and we just need to we need to pivot a new history Yeah, and shout out to everyone that reached out. It was no shut. No overwhelming a lot of people congratulated me. Uh, it was great Just knowing you congratulated hank. You're a fucking loser The guy has a loser. I'm a loser. Yeah, we know that. Yeah. I also clicked the lottery ball Right after hank got it. Oh, yeah. Oh my god Oh my god, I forgot about this We were sitting in the room after and it was it was me pft and max and max And he doesn't do this. No one does this. No one just walks over there and clicks the button max

Oh, he just my headphones went out. Yes. He just slammed on the table. No joke. Wait Vindication Stop fucking hitting the table. I I really can't I shouldn't sit here. I shouldn't sit here. He hit the table I can't hear myself. I'm Italian. I speak with my hands. There we go Stop I just hit it back Stop Don't hit the table. Jake. That's jake and I like the whole show with our feet. We like kick it in and out

Also, just want to apologize to everyone who had to deal. I I understand a lot of people were telling me They shut off the show early because of what hank was doing to the table on friday Uh, apologies to them. Yeah, I gotta stop sitting here. I can't help myself. I'm Italian. I speak with my, uh He just hit the table But yeah, sorry to everyone who had to deal with hank hitting the table over and over. It was very rude. Yeah, me too My bad. I got you next time. Uh Max just walked over for no reason at all clicked the lottery ball machine

And 20 came up, which is the number he picks every single time Yeah, and that's what I knew the sellings were winning and seven. Oh, you're such a loser I How I do want to know I do want to know I wanted to text the group text and I refrained because I didn't want to To bite my face, but I wanted to text yesterday and this morning so much The ass max how much he thought about me winning the lottery ball and how that was going to affect the game today Did you at all and it technically affected both game six and seven because he got it on thursday game six

I thought I was thinking about it all day. I honestly didn't really think about it at all this weekend for game seven But I did think about it a bunch for game six Whatever because the thing is if they had lost This is also game six or game seven. It probably would have negated the win There were there were some people who said I was being mean to hank on friday I will fully admit I was and it was because of the lottery ball like I was that devastated I I hated him so much that it it actually made me angry at him Like I was very angry at him

Right after he got it for the rest of like the next 24 hours. It's I muted him on twitter I muted him on twitter. I had to I don't even tweet. I you were tweeting about the lottery ball It's like I don't I can't have this in my head right now. I muted. I unmuted you today But I had to un I actually unmuted you and the first fucking tweet I saw was you just tweeting out a picture of the Celtics court with the number six and I was like fuck that It's disgusting like why it's honestly embarrassing that you're celebrating this much It really is we've all gotten it so many times and you you get it one time and you act like you're you know God's gift to lottery balls. Yeah, I just felt you know, it's been I've lost a lot in this show experienced a lot of

L's So, uh, whoever Whoever can uh build us a new lottery ball machine Uh email jake will go through them. What's your email? PMT intern at barstelsports.com. Okay, so and then we'll talk about I want I have a vision for it So I'll explain my vision for whoever can actually actually send us like How like how you could accomplish this not just hey, I want to build it

I want I want it to be basically the lottery like every time like a big fucking stick that we can like pick up the balls and shit How sick would that be? Uh, okay so Numbers I guess memes memes have you ever gotten this No, no 17 16

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