Pardon My Take - Joe Flacco, Divisional Round Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

We’ve got the coaching carousel and Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin and Nick Sirianni seem to be safe (00:00:00-00:18:28). We break down the 4 games in NFL Divisional round for this weekend including some legacies on the line (00:18:28-00:54:51). Joey Flacco joins the show to talk about this season, his career, being elite, when he first knew he could throw a perfect spiral and tons more (00:54:51-01:43:19). We finish the show with Fyre fest of the week (01:43:19-01:57:55).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Friday, January 19th, and we have the divisional round boys. Before we do that, though, we should talk a little coaching news. Yeah. Because Mike McCarthy is staying. Mike Tomlin is staying. Nick Sireani is potentially staying. Probably staying. Probably maybe. And we don't know what's going to happen by tomorrow. But I am, again, tracking Arthur Blanks' private jet. It's landing in Boston, Massachusetts right now. Oh. Bellachack, Falcons, collision course. Wow.

I think it's happening. It is happening. It might have already happened by the time this comes out. I would say you want to break the news, Hank? I'm gonna say it. No. Oh, okay. It could have been the first.

Give it to Leroy. Yeah, RIP. I mean, Blake, geez, RIP. Yeah. Mike McCarthy, though, Stan. You just killed my dog No, I was I was I was remembering where you max Yeah, I guess I'm out of my bed. Sorry, let's go. Let's go team by team. I'm like Mike McCarthy is staying yes

It's you you actually saw a bunch of people Greg Olson turns out he was right The someone wanted Mike McCarthy. It just happened to be Jerry Jones still wanted Mike McCarty Jerry Jones fellow over himself Fell over him to rehire Mike McCarthy for another year. Yes, and it's not out of this world to have a coach in Dallas going into the last year Because Jason Garrett did it. Yep. What happened with him afterwards? He got fired. He's on NBC. He's torture. He's on the cocks So Mike McCarthy not gonna be fired this year. As a commander's fan, I said that it makes me very happy that Mike's coming back. And I know that they absolutely demolished the commanders in the regular season. I know that Mike McCarthy is a very good regular season coach. But when you play against really good teams in the playoffs,

you're going to have to win three games, maybe four games to win a Super Bowl. And every game, even though the games that the Cowboys win have those small moments in them where you're like, if they're playing against a better team, that gets taken advantage of. So all I'm saying is, much like you were there in Rogers, when the Cowboys lose, that's my Super Bowl, which I really truly enjoy. And I'm glad that I'm going to get to enjoy that

for the next year. Yeah, so Mike McCarthy is a good coach in the relative term that like what three straight years, 12 and five, he obviously has a Super Bowl. People were doing the resume thing. Yes. It's like, yeah, why wouldn't you fire Michael Cartier like he, you know, or you got to keep a guy like that around because he's done good things in Dallas.

Obviously, they haven't gone deep in the playoffs. People were also pointing out, like, look at Andy Reed before they started winning Super Bowls in Kansas City where it's like 12 and 4, 10 and 6, 11 and 5. Everyone said he was a choke artist. The only issue with that is, Patrick Mahomes showed up. I don't think Patrick Mahomes is showing up in Dallas. You have DAC. Yeah. DAC is actually like kind of like McNabb in that sense. Right.

So a good quarterback. Right. But it's like these two guys together in the pressure situations will it falter? I, so initially I was like, that's stupid, they're bringing Mike McCarthy back. And I don't have the smartest brain and I can be swayed very easily. And I was.

Jake Ferguson tweeting out the video of Mike McCarthy dancing with the big chain to 50 cent many men, I was like, yep, okay, Mike McCarthy, this is a good, this is a good rehire. Yeah. Because that was like, that was a video, it was like these guys obviously love them. And again, if you put,

if you put pretty much any video with 50 cent many men, I'm gonna be like, damn, that was badass. Yeah, it is, it gets your blood going. Right, and you see a player, if you watch it, yeah, I have seen that before. Yeah, and it was cool. It is cool, it's a cool look for Mike. If you're Mike McCarthy, it's good that you're coming back for another year.

It's good to have another job. Good to not be fired. Also, the narrative every single week with Mike McCarthy is going to be for another year, how fired is this guy? Yeah. He's been fired for like two and a half years already. Well, he could also just pick up some more hobbies and become even the busier cat in Texas yes already the busiest yeah start learning how to do Rubik's cube yeah start learning card tricks I'm happy because it gives us one more chance

to be against Michael Cartier the playoffs yeah it's good so just put a reminder in Jake we'll just do that and we'll be happy and then next year he'll probably be fired and that doesn't diminish that he's a pretty good coach, but I just don't trust Everything. I'm not sure I like this new kinder jettler jerry Jones. Yeah, like being so accepting of although Although he kept Jason Garrett around for a very long time Sometimes I think he likes to do that to torture them, right? It's like working for me is more of a punishment than me firing Yeah, how long was Jason Garrett the coach for the Cowboys? Because you think of Jerry Jones, you think of the like, Jamie Johnson, we got to move on like on the boss.

Like, like what, six years or I think it was way more than that. It was one, twelve, twelve, twelve, twelve, twelve, twelve, twelve, twelve, twelve, ten years. Ten years. So that's twenty software updates. Eight years too many. Yeah. Like that. So he kind of is.

I was in 2010 and then 11 through 19. Nine years. Yeah. How do you feel Hank as a Cowboys fan? I don't know how people can support this team. I don't know how you can have the regular students they've had and the playup performances they've had capped off by one of the stinkiest stinkers ever thrown in the history of football. Like that was as bad a performance as you can imagine.

The everyone was leaving with maybe 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter, like maybe even before. It was never close. And it's just like how do you root for them in the regular season? Knowing that you have to win in the playoffs and regular season success means nothing. It doesn't translate. Dac is fucking horrible Like Mike McCarthy they were showing the videos where he was

consoling Judy on or not Judy CD lamb CD lamb on the sideline like in the first quarter as if there was major tension between him and Dac I Said if they keep him around I'm done with the Cowboys. I'm done with the Cowboys Wow, so you lost the fan today you're like, how can they keep this guy around? If he's not about like what Cowboys football should be about, which is winning playoff games, Jason Garrett was two and three in the playoffs.

So, and before that, they had one of those Tony's fault, though. Before that they had one of the playoff game in a long ass time. Long ass. So the Cowboys, they don't win playoff games. They get to the playoffs. Yeah, it's in their DNA at this point. It's not the 90s anymore.

Yeah. But there's so many good coach. I just, how can you as an owner watch that performance and be like, we're right there. Maybe he's just, yeah, maybe Jerry's just like getting old and he's, you get older, you just don't want to have to deal with like interviewing new people and talking, learning someone's new name.

There's so many coaches out there. You might be getting too much perspective on the world. I was, you get older, you're like, you start to realize what's important, that's interpersonal relationships. Yeah. What you're gonna leave behind as your legacy, I think Jerry Jones is now entering that stage

where he doesn't wanna make any new enemies. It is pretty shocking if you had asked us on Sunday, or no, Tuesday after the cowboys or after the divisional round or the wild car round was over, would the Steelers, Eagles and cowboys all keep their coaches? No chance you said yes. One of the three would have been gone. Yeah, especially considering this is the best for the aging coaching class, maybe ever.

Yeah. So Mike McCarthy stays in Dallas. Mike Tomman's thing in Pittsburgh, he said he's going to bring in quarterback competition, he's going to change some things or get a new offensive coordinator. He's also Mike Tomman, I feel like the way the Steelers operate, he was on the hot seat for like one single day because now he's back and he probably will sign an extension this summer. Yeah, and it turns out that Mike Tomlin was just upset about the loss.

Right. So when he was asked the question, he just didn't want to address that. That is kind of Mike Tomlin in a nutshell. Yeah. He's like, okay, that's not important. So I'm not even going to address it. I'm going to walk away. But yeah, he's going to be back probably, probably stay the head coach for another 10 years

in Pittsburgh. And imagine, although variable would have been nice, I think we both wanted variable to get that job if it was open. But yeah, Tomlin is proven that he can do a lot of good work in Pittsburgh, maybe without a superstar quarterback, which is hard to do. Yeah, and we also do have to take a step back

because we root for bad franchises, the coaching carousel, the revolving doors, always going. It probably is correct for some of these franchises, specifically the Steelers, where it's like, yeah, they have a way, and they're gonna keep doing their way, and over time it has worked. And like, yeah, our reaction is different than how the Steelers operate,

which is probably a good thing, because we're very dumb. Yeah, when something goes bad with our teams, it never gets fixed. No, the instant fixed button is fire in the coach. Yeah, there's no chance that you can have some of these guys that we've had over the years and be like, let's give them another year. Right. See how they do.

It's like if things go bad, it's not getting any better. Right, and we're talking about three playoff teams. Yeah, so it might get better in Pittsburgh. It might get better in Dallas. It might get better in Philadelphia. Maybe. So that's the last one. Nick Sireani possibly stayed.

Max, there's no report one way or the other right now. Well, the report was that Jeffrey Lurie and how he rose in basically tasked Nick Sireani with coming to them with a list of coordinators that he thinks are good for the team. And like that, so the initial thought is, well, if a coach is looking for coordinators, he's probably kept his job. Then the report came out, well, this same exact thing happened with Doug Peterson. When he got fired, Jeff, Jeff Laurie and how he rose and said, come to us with a list, they were, it was not an adequate list for them

and they fired Doug Peterson. So that is what Max is hoping for. The Nick Sireani can't get anyone to pick up the phone for. Yeah, basically, Laurie is asking Nick Sireani, like bring me a list of presentation of guys that you think will make you suck less as a head coach. I actually think it's something different. I think it's give me a list of guys who still think

that you're good because if you're gonna be an offensive or defense of coordinated for the Eagles, you're tying your future to Nick Sireani. So it's kind of a fucked up test where it's like, how good of the coaches think that you're still good. You know, it's genius. Can you get anybody with the entire coaching staff be better with you or would staff be better with you,

or would it be better with a new guy that's bringing in his guy? Right, like if Nick's your round, it comes to the owner and how he rosemom with the names like Luke Getzi and Matt Patricia. Yeah, and they're like, wait, what? Is it that showing that you don't have that much faith in your head coach though, saying like,

we don't really trust you show us the guys that you can bring in that will fix you. Yeah, but I really do think it's like how many people in the NFL still think that you're good. That's the list because if if Nick's your own he calls you up, you're making the calculation like is this guy dead already? Should I, should I hitch my wagon to him?

I like this move. This is actually kind of a genius move. It's going to be a list of guys who think that Nick Sierrani's still a good coach. That's all it is. Well, I mean, it's also a roster like what do you mean? Like like Cliff Kingsbury is looking at the bears because Caleb Williams is coming in. Right. Right. There's coordinators out there that could look at that Eagles offense and be like, of course I would love this job because of that personnel. But it's always a nerve-wracking thing if you're a coordinator to be like, am I stepping

into a job that I will be gone from in a year, no matter what happens. Yeah, yes, but I think that has just as much to do with the personnel that it does. True. You know what, I do if I were Nick Seriani, I would put down a list of guys like the top guys out there. Like Ben Johnson told me that he would leave the lines to come here as an office coordinator I was wondering and then hope that they don't call those references like can he go to Like those people have to be In to come if he comes with that name ideally you would want guys that are currently employed

No, it has to be it has to be a list of names at Nick Serrani's actually talked to to say that there would be interested in coming. I don't want to hear interested. Like there come, like if, if, if I, if he goes to Laurie and puts those names down, he's not allowed to, he's not allowed to be like, all right, you keep your job and then him to go back to Laurie, be like, oh, he never mind doesn't want to come anymore. It would have to be guys, it would have to be guys that are like quarterback's coaches. Because I don't think you could talk to an office in a corner that's currently under contract.

Lay callers. Yeah, like compuay. You need callers. Because Brian Johnson's a good quarterback coach. Not a good play caller. Just get big dom to run the defense. So do you think that he's gonna get fired? If I had, gun to my head, I would say no. I don't think he's in. Roodle for you no. I don't think it's brutal for you.

But I don't think it's I think you got especially because you said you weren't gonna watch an easy a must-fire can't keep. Oh good question Hank. I wait there's too many too many questions. Mustfire can't keep. I thought I would say, let's see, let's see how the parts play out. Must fire can't keep. Let's see how that's fine. It's a very important question.

You have to answer your answer. Yes it is. Must fire can't keep. Which one is it? It can't keep. Oh, that's bad for you. It's the ownership. Yeah, but you also,

if you can't keep someone, you could also be like, maybe I can keep it. If you must fire, you don't really change from must fire. Yeah. So you should have said must fire. You answered that in front. No, but no, no, no, no, no, because obviously I'm good.

Like, if he comes with something exciting, coordinator, and he's back in. If he comes with something exciting, coordinator, and he was like, coordinator merchant. Yeah, he needs to find like the best coordinators. I just think he's so corny, like, right. But tell him that. So if he's so corny. Right, and telling you that.

So if he's off the space and you're sitting down in the office, you say, Nick, what would you say it is you do here all day? Does he just like leaf through motivational book? No, he probably would say, what do you think Rocky did all day? I want that. You ran up the step.

I want that. There to be a press conference. He's gonna bring like frozen meat truck into the training camp next year. Be like, beat the fuck out of these ribs. Yeah. Here's a log. But time we're fighting the Russians. The the vets seemed like they they backed them. So I mean, who's that? Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz has not really. But like Fetcher Cox, like rider. It was the most important person going forward on the Eagles. Jalen Hertz for sure. Yes.

Let your Cox. I think he said that's a clown question, bro, right? He pulled the Bryce Harper on them. Something like that. Yeah. Jason Kelsey also was well, he's talking to me on the team anymore. He might be. He doesn't really care. Well, probably being like, you know, he'll probably be in the front office or something. Hope he'll be it will be attached to the team. He'd pull a great move. Yes.

Yeah. If you guys going through McDonald's drive through, I would take Kelsey's my coach. He gave an autographed Jersey to his favorite drive through work. I love how, how mad would you because be if you were retiring and didn't get to reveal it on the podcast. Well, he did. He's gonna, he said he's not retiring. He hasn't made the decision. But that was a, yeah, it's because he wants to do it on the podcast. We would never save something for the podcast. I respect that. I respect that game. Oh, of course. Yeah. That's a

day one podcast guy move. Yeah. I respect that game. Oh, of course. Yeah, that's a day one podcast guy move. Yeah. It's still upsetting. You wait to announce your girlfriend on the podcast, you break up with your coach on the podcast. That's sort of thing. Yeah. That would be getting broken up with.

If Nick Sireani made Jason Kelsey retire, it's just basically saying, I don't want to, I don't want to do this anymore. I want Jason Kelsey to hit coach a thought off the eagle. Oh, okay. Yeah. I like that. Leader of men.

Leader of men. Leader of men. Pete Presco has completely changed Max's outlook. He's just been walking around being like, I mean, we need a leader of men. I love that you had the wrong guy on the show this year. And you're like, yeah, you know what? He's right about that.

No, something about those words. I'm like, you know what? Is it the leader of men? Is it the men that you No, something about those words. I'm like, you know what? Is the leader of men? There's the men that you like. I like the men. Nick's here already might actually be a perfect college coach. His corn and shit would work. Yeah.

Because those guys can leave after a couple of years. Yeah. Y'all maxed out bad. Okay, we're gonna get into the games. It's sponsored by our friends. It's super cuts, while some gambles can be a rush. Haircuts aren't like four scum's box of chocolates. It's better to know what you're gonna get than to be surprised.

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Okay. Yeah, this is the big, big time narrative. Right. If he doesn't win this game, then that's going to, that's going to follow him around for the rest of his career. It's this specific game. I, I understand that, you know, you, Lamar needs to win a Super Bowl to get into that next level, but this specific game because, you know, if you play the Bills or Chiefs

next round, that's a coin flip game. Anything can happen. You're a 10 point favorite, nine and a half point favorite at home against Houston, Texans, rookie head coach, rookie QB. You have to win this game if you're the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah, I said that I was going to stop doubting CJ Stroud.

I'm not, yeah, I'm not going to doubt CJ Stroud until it gives me reason to. So I, I think the Ravens, I don't know, I don't want to sit there and trouble, but they've had two weeks off, right? So is this, is this too much for us? rest because week 18 they didn't play any other starters. And then last week obviously they had the biweek. John Harbour though too much rest. He's been biohacking with the trip to London. Maybe he biohacked this week. I don't know how. Biohacked the two

weeks in a row. I don't know how you would do it, but maybe he did it. Yeah, so I have no reason to doubt CJ Stroud. So I'm not going to we've got Dmitco Ryan's and there was a clip of him. Did you see the clip from the Browns game where he was talking to his linebacker And he was saying hey the quarterback when he moves to this side slide right in front of his auger Yeah, and then there was a clip that they edited in of of Dmitco back when he played Undercutting his guy against Joe Flacco. And then his linebacker steps in, pick six to the house. I'm not gonna doubt Dmitco,

I'm not gonna doubt CJ Stroud. I still, the Ravens are a better team all around, but I don't know, the Texans have lightning in a bottle right now, and I'm leaning towards them, okay, at least against the spread. I am gonna doubt them. Well, I'm not gonna doubt CJ Stroud,

but I'm gonna more stamp an approval of the Baltimore Ravens and the style of football that they play in their entire team. Because it's not, you know, Lamar has receivers now. Mark Andrews is gonna be back. Dalvin Cook, watch out, play off Dalvin. Yeah, play off D is back. So is Mark Andrews actually playing?

I know he puts a question. I know he puts a questionable, okay. But it likely has been great. So, you off D is back. Is Mark Andrews actually playing? I know he's questionable. OK, but it likely has been great. So, you know, it might be we're going to wait another week with Mark Andrews. The Ravens defense though is what I'm betting on in this game. And I'll read you a quote from Patrick Queen. And I'll then tell the context behind it. He said, we play a brand of football that people don't want to play.

Everybody wants to be out here being cute playing basketball and grass and stuff, and we are not with all that. You can do all that stuff. We're just going to hit you in the mouth every play honestly. We couldn't care less about all the pretty stuff you do, gimmick stuff. You'll have to line up and play football. You still have to get touched. So that's our mindset. That's how we want to come out and just hit people in the mouth. So that's Patrick Green's quote. When was that Patrick Queen quote from after the 49ers game? The Ravens played the 49ers kick the shit out of them. The Ravens played the dolphins kick the shit out of them. Bobby Slowick, where did he come from? San Fran Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. I think the Ravens defense going to kick the shit out of them. Do you think that I would not say that the Texans offense

is candy ass or gimmick? It's not, but it's not the same. There's some concepts of the same. And I think that the Ravens defense, what they can do to confuse people, you know, they have, they, they move safeties around, you know, get pressure with four, they get pressure with blitzes. I just, I think the Ravens defense. This is a Ravens defense statement game.

Yeah. So the people more out of it, I think there's a Ravens defense statement game. Yeah, so the people more out of it. I think there's a Ravens defense statement game that this is a different defense than what the Texans have been playing. And yeah, the Browns had a very good defense this year, but they sucked on Saturday, last Saturday. And they did, they weren't great on the road. But the string of defense is the Texans have played. I think this is a totally different piece.

You know who's rooting the hardest for the Texas this weekend? The S2 cognition test people. Yes. The ones that said that CJ Stroud couldn't process things quickly. Yes. I'll quickly flip back to that. I'll be like, I should have trusted the science. Yeah.

If the Texans fail on the road, but yeah, something about CJ Stroud, I don't know. He's wise beyond his ears. He's incredible. The defense for the Ravens is concerning. It's a really fucking good defense and they do hit you in the mouth. But I don't think that the Texans offense is gimmicky. I don't think that it's, I don't think it's based on tricks. They don't run that many like, no, they don't put it's just it's, I just think that this defense is going to, I think they're going to swarm

them. I think they're going to confuse them. I think they're going to do a lot of stuff that like again, this is like the Texas have been incredible and C day shroud is incredible. I've said many time. I mean, best work work you season ever. And there's like four quarterbacks I'd rather have over him right this second. I just think this Ravens statement statement game for the Ravens defense. Maybe bad weather, statement game. Weather forecast for this weekend in Baltimore. 27 as the high. And it's going to be wins of up to 17 miles per hour. Run the football. The Mars going to run the ball. it might fuck with the Texans kicking game

because everyone always talks about three, or not three rivers, but Heinz Field, whatever it's called now, Accreture, being the hardest place to kick. Baltimore very, very hard to kick too unless you kick there all the time. Yeah, yeah. Anyone else like anything in this game?

Lamar over Russian. I like that. I like Odell over 50 receiving yards as paying out two to one because they're stingely is going to probably match up against safe flowers. And last week the Browns, I think they they stayed away from their number one receiver Cooper. I think 80% of the time. So I like I like the balls going to Odell this weekend. Yeah. All right. Do you have nerd nuggets? I do. Great. For the Houston Texans.

Last week, quarterback CJ Stroud passed Justin Herbert for the second most passing yards. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. For the second most passing yards, everybody are okay, including postseason. Stroud now only trails Andrew Luck for the record and can break it by throwing for 303 yards on Saturday. Meanwhile, for the Ravens, do do do do, nerd nugget of the week. Okay. Ravens head coach John Harbaugh has a chance to lead the Ravens to their fourth AFC championship game during his tenure,

all of which came between 2008 and 2012. John and his brother Jim, formerly of the 49ers, are the only head coaches in NFL history to advance to three conference title games in their first five years as NFL had coaches. That's pretty cool. Good for the hard boss. Jim did it in his first three. I have a bird nugget.

Okay. The bird nugget for the Ravens of the week. Did you know that Ravens can mimic the sound of toilet flushing? Ooh. Yeah. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool.

I almost want to get a Raven and just have it. See it do it. Do it. I mean, if they lose, that's an easy layup joke. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Or if Mar has to sprint to the bathroom.

Yeah. Also, a highly respected mind that I take a lot of info from said that playing in a dome versus playing outside. Different game. Different game. 100%. That was Benjamin Mints. Yep.

He told me that. It's fact. It's fact. It is fact. There was, I think they asked Todd Bulls that this weekend about going up to Detroit. They're like, how are you preparing for the weather? He's like, well, it's inside. And then, of course, like every story that ever happens online, then we had a bunch of people be like, it's fucked up.

People are making fun of this reporter. She probably isn't covering this. But you just shut up. It's a fucking, it's a funny clip. She thought that the line's playing outside. Yeah. That's it. I think we can laugh about that. Yeah. Just chill. It's OK. We can just thought that the line's playing outside. Leave it. That's it. I think we can laugh about that.

Yeah, just chill. It's okay. We can just have a moment and then move on. No one's crucifying her. No one's saying anything bad. It was a funny moment. Todd Bowles handled it well. Mm-hmm.

Okay, next game. Packers at 49ers. I'm also gonna take the 49ers in this game. I feel like we fall for it every year where it's like the one seed you don't see play and then some team has a big upset because they're a lower seed and you're like, well, they just want to play off game. They're so hot. They're pretty good.

Niners are also pretty good. So the Packers game against the Cowboys was very similar to the 49ers game. Also against the Cowboys. Correct. So you think they might match up. I think the 49ers defense is much, much better than the Cowboys in terms of like the dudes that they have. Yeah. Yeah.

Minus Mike Parsons obviously and Cowboys, they've got some good cornerbacks, but they're getting Eric Armstead back. Yeah. So you've got Chase Young, you've got Joey Boasa, and you've got Eric Armstead rushing the passer. I think that's going to be a nightmare for Greenback. I also think the bigger difference between the Cowboys and the 49ers when playing it's the Packers is,

the Cowboys couldn't run the ball a year. And like they just couldn't, Tony Pollard had a disappointing year, they were never able to get a good ground game. Guess what the 49ers can do. They can run the fucking football. They can run the fucking football. And they can also, even if they're not running it in a handoff, they can do swing passes and screen passes and Christopher Kafer can run the fucking foot. They can run the fucking football. And they can also, even if they're not running it in a hand off, they can do swing passes and screen passes.

And Christopher Caffrey can run all over. You know, he's probably, he's had what, three weeks off now, because he didn't play in that last week game or two weeks off. So he's going to be healthy. Yeah, I think the Niners are going to take it to him. Yeah, I also love the over in this game. It's my nuclear missile will play. Did you know the history between Laflour and, uh, you have Shana McVeigh, who was, I guess,

kind of referring to Laflour as his older brother, even though Shana McVeigh was his boss? Yep. Back in 2017 when they were on the Rams, they got into a fight after practice. I love it. I think they were 10 and one at the time. They got into a fight, spilled over into the coach's office. They started screaming at each other. Laflour said, fire me.

Just fucking fire me. And McVeigh said, I'm not gonna fire you. I quit. So McVeigh said that he was gonna quit because Laflour wanted Sean McVeigh to fire him. And then Laflour had to tell Sean McVeigh, no, don't quit. Don't quit. So then Laflour rehired Sean McVeigh in that fight.

And then he became what we all know of Sean McVeigh today Okay, so they've got obviously a lot of history We're gonna get this week Sean McVeigh or Carl Shanahan This was Sean McVeigh and Matt LaFlore and Matt LaFlore yeah, but I'm not what I'm saying is like they've got we're gonna get the fucking graphic this weekend Yeah of the Carl Shanahan coaching for which is somehow crept to include Chris Forster, the offensive line coach in San Francisco. Just to be adding dudes. Yeah, Chris Forster was the guy that snorted all that coke

on that video, and then he's been. He's rocked. Dude's aren't allowed to have fun anymore. Yeah, I think he snorted coke and then sent the video to like a hooker to impresser. I don't know what was going on. That's impressive. Dude's rock moment.

But yeah, he's been successfully rehab rehab to the point where he's now Included on the graphic with Bobby Slowak and you've got a lot just that the graphic keeps getting bigger It gets bigger every figure all the time and I ate it. Yeah. No, it's it's it's haunting for you I understand because they really just show it all the time. Yeah, all the time So you just take the packers. I am going to take the Niners on time. Yeah. All the time. So you just take the Packers? I am going to take the Niners on this. Okay. Yeah.

I just end the Packers. Like the Niners do have the Packers number. They've been in my think three times in the playoffs the last four or five years. Yeah. They're my Lord and Savior. They are the protector. They're the Knights watch. I need the pack.

Like I won't be nervous. If the Packers somehow win this game, it's threat level midnight. Yeah. Is that is like what the fuck is happening? And I, Jordan Love has really, really got damn good. He's going to have to be perfect to win this game. He was perfect last week. He was perfect last week.

Yeah, if he does that again, then they could absolutely win this game. But I just, I think that the diners are going to play with the lead. I think they're going to play their bully ball, kind of, you know, lean on people. If they play with the lead, I think they can win. But their run defense has really good stats this year. That's only because they always play with the lead. Right. So teams only get Aaron Jones is good. They get like 50 yards rushing against the Niners because guess what?

You're down by like 17 points in the first quarter. Is Jair Alexander going to play? He's doubtful. I saw. So we don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, nerd nugget. After last week's humongous performance, three touchdowns, Packers running back Aaron Jones is down. The franchise leader in rushing touchdowns in the postseason was seven of them. He's also now tied with Devon

Thay Adams with eight total postseason touchdowns. And one more on Saturday night would put him at number two in franchise history. That's surprising to me that he's their franchise leader with seven you said.. Yeah in rushing touchdowns Considering how many times they've been to the playoffs, but they always had like a revolving eddy lacy eddy lacy china food Love dating leacy. He's the best. He was he was the best. Just didn't I know you want me to lose weight? Not gonna lose weight. Yeah, oh and for the Niners. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, we're all we couldn't Yeah, go ahead this season 49ers running back, Christian McCaffrey led the NFL with 1,459 rushing yards. He became the first player since 1995 and only the fourth since 1970 to lead the NFL in

rushing after every single week of an entire season. Start to finish. Did you know that he also finished with two thousand twenty three all purpose yards and he's the first player to ever finish with the same number of yards as the year. You're joking. I swear to God. That's incredible. Well, take a rock and a rock.

Yeah, that's an incredible stat. Can you believe that shit? Like, all the years. How did you find that stat? All the year, I thought of it. I just sat down on my head. Holy f**k. I mentally added up every week of his yards

because I keep track of that internally. And then I was like, wait, what year is it? That might be the start of the year. I think it's the start of the year. The start of the year, the start of the year. The other three running back to the lead after each week. Emmett Smith, Walter Payton and O.J. Simpson. No, okay, Murd Nugget of the week.

Yeah, good company, minus one. Okay, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. The box going to the lines. I'm nervous for the lines because I was thinking about a narrative wise. The lines have had a dream season, yet all the energy and everything going, beating Stafford. It was like an incredible moment. Sprinkles came back. We found that out on Sunday night. And then the box, like as a franchise, they've obviously won two Super Bowls. No disrespect to the box, but like the box to come in and steal it would just be.

It would be very sad. It'd be heartbreaking. Yeah, especially if the Packers win and then you could, you could have hosted the NFC championship game. I like the quote from Dan Campbell this week. He said to those fans that had her back, you deserve this for the doubters. Stay off our train. It's too late for you.

He's not opening up the bandwagon. The Dan Wagon is shut and it's the train. He just loves train metaphors. He started off a hard knocks with that a couple of years ago when it was like Metallica lyrics. Yeah, they're fucking train right now. I think they're gonna roll over the box. I think the box pass defense on the road

is one of the worst in the league. And the line. I've got a lot of guys healthier though now. The line on the road is one of the worst in the league and the line. I've got a lot of guys healthier though now. The line, the line's passing offense is one of the best in the league at home. They're gonna blitz. And the moon is right too. Don't forget. Oh, it is.

I believe it's. I believe it's a waxing gibbist this week. Yeah. I think the lines are three and one in that type of moon. I'm rooting for the Lions to beat the Bucks, but I'm nervous that the way the Lions play football with their secondary, it feels like every team can always get back in the game. Can I give you an addition that they're making this week

that you might not be thinking about? Okay. James Houston. Oh! James Houston was very good when he was playing last year. He's been injured, he's been out, he's back. I think he's gonna be ready to go. Okay. I think that could make a a difference because you watch how good their

Pass rush was last week against Matt Stafford. Yeah, and there was a lot of emotion definitely in the building. They wanted to hit Matt Stafford around. I think getting him back, they're going to get after Baker. He's not the most mobile right now because he's still a little dinged up. I have a Prop stat for everyone out there from my guys at Sports and Fault Solutions. The Lions defense allowed the third most completions and fourth most yards to the slot receiver position. Okay. Chris Godwin, maybe look at him.

Okay, that's a, I mean, if you're looking for, if you're looking for some props, it's always looking for an angle. Yeah, looking for value. Chris Godwin does lead the box in terms of reception, yards, targets from the slot. I just want Detroit to win this game. I do too.

I do too. Very badly. There's something that makes me nervous about just like, I feel like most Lions games have gone a similar way where it's like they look really good in the first half and then they just kind of hold on. So that's why the six and a half makes you nervous. Like I think the lines are gonna win.

I don't know about the six and a half. Maybe Lions first half, take that bet. Yeah, I don't hate that. Probably a winning bet. But we'll have a rest advantage for the Lions again, an extra day and they don't have to travel. Yeah. Okay, maybe we do that.

What do you think in Detroit, grit? Detroit. Now are you hopping on the Lions because people lines fans might be like, Hey, there's an this the Cowboys fan because then it would maybe blow up. No, again, you know, for the for the uninformed, my original Cowboys fandom came from a future. My future is a season war. The dolphins and the Cowboys,

I regularly season futures that I have. That was fraudulent teams in the world. But wait, you rooted for the cowboys last season. Because of the future, that's how this whole thing started, which is how I prefaced this. Because remember, last year he put a future on the cowboys because he was like Tom Brady's washed, so the cowboys are gonna beat him.

Nope, that was not true. I put it long before the playoff. Can I jump? However, it's tough to find really good value this late in the playoffs, but my big brain thought I cooked up something smart. I parlayed to an NFC team with the Celtics win the championship and I parlayed an AFC team. Celtics win a championship.

Okay, those two teams. Spicy. Lions, bills. Ooh, that's the matchup I want to see in the Super Bowl just for just for the vibes That would be an incredible match. I've been thinking about that I want both those teams to win somehow, but I don't think I want to see them play each other But again, remember we would get to dunk on everyone for the green. I know there's there's that factor to it Yeah, we're like we had we had the Super Bowl before everyone else. Yeah, and Jared. I love Jared

I'm so happy for Jared. Yeah, I want to I want to see the lines keep going I Want to talk to Detroit Don again now the question is Like imagine a podcast with Ed and Alicia That would that would be we wouldn't even have to get guest for sure, but we should do that. And sprinkle for them together. Yeah.

Now, here's something I've been tossing around, and I don't want to get ahead of myself, but if the lines somehow win this game, and then they go to San Francisco, so let's assume the diners win in the lines win. We'll just, again, nothing set, just hypothetical. Do you think that we should try to get the down and see we're fan here for a stream? With a dump button

But toss it around Yeah, we'll see there reactions. We'll be with the delay. Yeah with the delay Do you think I feel like they probably have a bar that they go to every weekend? No, they no, they strike me as a living room setup, guys. Yeah. So I wouldn't want to mess with it. I would offer it, but I would not want to mess with it. Also with those guys, what's in it for them?

I mean, it would be great stream content, but this is fun with the board. How many runs do you get? Yeah, true. It actually would be mean because you'd have to, like, yeah, you're right. You're right. I want to be with them if they win. I do, I like watching them lose. and then they would blame us if they lost. We might have to send, maybe send like, Mincey to do some field reporting with them.

Oh, Mincey lost. Indoor choice. All right. So you want to get their reactions, but they should be in there. They should be allowed to be in their own and their element. All right. I'm happy we talked about it. You're absolutely right.

Yeah, because if they were on the live stream, chances are, I mean, the 49ers would be favored by quite a bit that weekend So you likely to be inviting them to broadcast and live stream their own funeral which people love to see Max He's died about a hundred times. Yeah, he's a star. I love it. Keeps coming back though. Yeah, who you were informed in the playoffs Max? I'm lines all the way. Yeah Cory has also asked me to. To not do that? No.

The opposite. He wants me to be like his emotional support. Are you going to get into Honolulu blue jumpsuit? No, I said I, I have one for you. Thought he's just as alive. I have a jumpsuit you can wear on Sunday. I don't, I don't like this. I don't like this at all.

Why are we trying to do this for the team? I mean, for the team that beat you like respect, like, like you know they're the better team. I want the team that beat us super. There's a real. There's a fuck load of lines fans out there that are like keep max away from our team. The real thing is Dan Campbell said he doesn't want you. What? He's Dan Campbell said he doesn't want you. He said he said stay off our train. It's too late for you. But I'm not like a real fan. The real thing is I need the Niners to lose and there's no way that the bugs can beat the Niners.

I really need the Niners to lose. Oh, I know. I really need the Niners to lose. This is great. We need the Niners to win. No, I really need the Niners to win. PFT, we need the Niners to win. I don't need the Niners to lose.

Because he basically is saying that last year was such a fluke, because Brock Purti got hurt, so if the Niners go to the Super Bowl. It literally eliminates it. It eliminates all the Eagles success and then except for one little piece Nick Sireon he's still there. We need the Niners to win. Oh my God. You should have said that out loud.

You know it'd be great though. Yes. If Brock Purti has a minor injury, right? Let's say there's something small happens. Minor ankle injury can't play in most of the game and the 49ers beat the fuck out of the packers. And then next round they beat the fuck out of whoever and they go to the Super Bowl without Brock Purti. That would be good for me.

Yeah, that would be good for him because he would be like, we were that good. No, yeah, then they would be like, all right, what's your argument? What's your argument? Last year, if you just did it this year, I just I go back to saying you should not root for the Lions. No, he needs, we need the 49ers to win and win big.

And so that way we can be like, and the Lions are my goal. Retroactively, the 49ers should have been in the Super Bowl against the chiefs. Got it. Yeah. That's what state what. Yeah, stay far away Detroit. Yes, keep this man. Keep this man. Okay. I keep this man far away. You guys you guys gave me life. I love this. I'm I I'm gonna be

nine or Dan. I bet this is great. I have so much new newfound life. Love for football. Niners Dan growing up. They should have been back to back champs. You said we you you you you I haven't played the interview yet. Uh uhs. You said, you, you said, I haven't played the interview yet. But you said we should be supporting our boys in 2024. You never support your boys. We don't want you supporting our boys. Yeah.

Well, Joe Flacko's our boy. You're not our boy. And also, I was rooting for the Eagles last year. I was rooting for the Eagles last year. Spoiler alert, but in the interview, there's a lot of South Philly guys around Flacko that doubt him.

We need you to also doubt people to give them motivation. Yeah. Have you ever thought about that? Maybe you're just such a powerful force that having you root against somebody gives them so much to overcome. I didn't see this angle with the Niners and now that he said it out loud, it's fucking on. The Niners are a wagon. And that would be a double win for you

because Max, the packer's losing. Oh, yeah. Well, it's already rooting for the Niners, but I'm saying like I'm rooting for them to get to the Superl now because I want I want it to be erased that's double misery. We need to make it so he's gonna deal with 49ers fans being like you never would have beaten us We got to make it so that when the Niners eventually win they use Max and they're in their post game Yeah, you like to do with Florian. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes And if he doesn't say anything, we can just do the AI. We'll do AI Max. So you're saying that if the Niners play the Lions

and the conference championship, you're gonna be rooting for the Niners? I'm saying that I don't want you rooting for either team. In that case, I'll be rooting for whichever team wins. I'm rooting for the Lions. I'm rooting for whichever team ends up winning. That way, we're gonna run out of winner. We're gonna root the over.

Yeah. Well, we're gonna root for our personal friends to just crush it, have the games of their lives. All right, wait, do we do nerd nugget? Not only have the Buccaneers won a bunch of playoff games since 2020, but Tampa Bay has won a good chunk of them with some breathing room. Their plus 64 playoff points margin since 2020 is the best in the NFL. And we're not gonna talk about who is responsible for that.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I brought up the Jordan lot that, yeah, Aaron Rogers and AT&T Stadium and look what happened. Yeah, the bucks, the bucks are different. They're different. I don't hate the bucks. In fact, I think Baker Mayfield is a great story.

He should be the comeback player that you know this year. And I will never root against Baker Mayfield. I think he's what? What? I don't know. Baker was even on on. I like Baker. I've always liked Baker.

No, he was great. He was a great one. They they pulled a. A family. Whether you're my beer stretch. They pulled a fillion. They ran him out of town. Yeah.

Also, they just won by 23. That's plus 23 with Baker. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Those Eagles last week. He's staying. And not worse team. For for the Lions combining the regular season and postseason. The most rushing rushing touchdowns of player has had in their first season with the Lions. David Montgomery 14 this year. Barry Sanders 14 and 1989. One more touchdown for Montgomery. The

most ever rushing touchdowns by a line in their coming. Great player. Great player. Yeah, I would never let him walk out that door. Nope. They're on. Nope. All right, last game, Chiefs of Pills. Before we do that, part of my cheese steak, big news. We teamed up with Uber Eats to bring the flavor straight to your doorstep, craving that Philly perfection. No problem. Just hit up the Uber Eats app.

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I'm very nervous I mean the people of Vardy accuses of being the glazers of Buffalo. I'm rooting for the bills I think the chiefs are gonna win so Taylor is going to the game I heard and She better be careful and I'm like Taylor on and then I remember that oh, yeah that singer whatever her name is Yeah, Taylor Swift oh, I recommended Wig Nuts to having her back. Yeah, yeah, I think she's gonna have to be careful and Buffalo Not because they're gonna tack her but because I think that if she's not careful she could fall in love

Oh, I need Bill's mafia big time. She's gonna fall in the house of energy everywhere Pinto Ron Yeah, Pinto Ron is gonna take her home. Yeah, Pinto Ron might be in her box one of those guys who jumps in the pit Yeah, yeah, they've been doing that. Is she gonna break a table? That'd be sick That would be sick if they litter on fire and she broke a table She's been so like you know uptight proper little Miss Hollywood for the longest time She's gonna see some real men and buffalo. Yeah, she's gonna be like I didn't know that I know this was even an option Some beefy men with a with a buffalo wing hat on it'd be oh it'd be great long as time she's gonna see some real men and buffalo. It's gonna be like, I didn't know that. I know this was even an option. Some beefy men with a buffalo wing hat on. It'd be great if she-

If she did go to the Pinto Ron tailgate and she just got brasers with ketchup and mustard. Yes. Right to the face. I'm looking out for that. I'm gonna race buffalo tailer. On the field, something to look out for this weekend. It's the ref is Sean Hockeyley.

Uh, Sean Hockeyley loves roughing the passers. Uh, and if you were to think of like two quarterbacks that would get a lot of these calls to a good job of getting selling them, they both do a good job. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. They're very good at making sure the ref see in roughing the passers. I feel like Sean Hockeyley is going to have a legacy day. Yeah. I, uh, so I'm very nervous for this game for the bills. Their defense of injuries have been insane. I've, they're so bad I've started following this account called banged up bills, which it

could be like a porn site. Yeah. Maybe banged up bills. Um, they have two linebackers who are limited practice or did not practice two cornerbacks that are limited practice did not practice Bernard Dodson Johnson Benford and then that doesn't even count residual Douglas who I think is gonna play But that feels like a lot. They've had a lot of injuries the cornerback and linebacker position Josh is Ellen's gonna have to play a super human game and then the stat that is a scary stat

Patrick Mahomes as an underdog is seven and three straight up and eight one and one as Against the spread in his career. I would imagine that most of the games he's been underdogs It's only by a couple points though. Yeah, but yeah It's this is Patrick Mom's of the playoffs the chiefs are again like Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL. And to bet against him in the playoffs is very tough to do, but I feel like this buff loads here. So I want to go to our friend Hank here, because he can probably speak to this.

If Patrick Mahomes wins this game, it doesn't feel like this is the part of the Brady legacy that he's doing where it's like there's some really great quarterbacks that just can't get through Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, on the road too, that's been a common, you know, the knock you can't win on the road or they know it's going on the road. I can't win on the road. I like that. If he doesn't win this game, we will say he can't win on the road.

But it would be a double whammy. Right, because it's like, you know, you think like Phil Rivers, Big Ben, Pete Manning, like these guys who probably would have had multiple super, I mean, Pete Manning obviously has multiple super roles. One the second with the Broncos, Big Ben has two, Phil Rivers has zero. Like they would have had more if Tom Brady wasn't sitting there in the AFC every single year. Yeah. I mean, it feels like that's, this is like the story arc of like all these great quarterbacks that my home is just snatching super balls from them. Payton couldn't until he did.

Yeah. And then he could. I feel like that's what's going to happen. I hope I hope you're I mean, I'm rooting. I'm root my dick off for the bills. But I I I'm very nervous for this game for the bills just because they're defense ventures. It's in it. It's.

You can't really make excuses. A lot of times it's the team that's healthy. It's at this time of year. You know who is healthy on the bill's defense? Jordan Poir, or should I say his actual name, which is DJ Poio? Oh, I can't believe we didn't talk about this when the story came out like a month ago. Jordan Poir, he went to, I think, Costa Rica about a year ago, did ayahuasca and he changed his personality to no longer be in Jordan, Poio It's DJ Poio. Oh, I liked and DJ Poio apparently while he's tripping on ayahuasca

He had an out of body experience where he saw his body lecturing himself. So like he gave himself a pep talk saying like you don't need alcohol You don't need to doubt yourself all this stuff I think he's sober now he sober now because DJ Poyo told Jordan Poir you don't need all this stuff So he like coached himself up on I was do you think DJ Poio? DJ Poio Poio told Jordan Poir like Good job with the wife. Yeah, he did yeah, he said also you need to change some things in life, but stick with Rachel Rachel bushes Yeah, you did a good job. Nice work. Yeah, you know how they met that was also in the same story that I read

He was in the NFL and she liked one of his posts on Instagram He de-embed her and she was a freshman in college and they're like let's hang out Wambam love. Thank you, ma'am love. It's love Yeah, they do have a poyer and What's the name? Line. They're two safeties Fuck. I mean, he's very good safety. Why is this escaping me right tomorrow? My god, Mike. Mike. Thank you. Hyde and poyer are healthy. It's just that middle and their front their front forward is healthy

It's just that middle of the defense is just battered. Yeah, battered. Need Matt Milano to do like a Willis read. Should do it. Just do it, dude. Just break your leg. I play. Put it back together.

Would you play? Yeah, I'd walk that shit off. I don't know. Of the guys I listed, I feel like maybe two will play. They're one of them has a concussion, so I feel like concussion. I feel like maybe two will play. They're one of them has a concussion, so I feel like concussion. I feel like for some reason, the science and concussions, the protocol and coming back from concussions,

it becomes lesser amount of days as you get to the playoffs. Yeah, it was like... Something about science. It was like 10 or 20% in the regular season, but the cold weather sets in. You know, cold is an anti-inflammatory, right? So your brain in the cold, it actually recovers much quicker. That's a fact. That is an anti-inflammatory, right? So your brain in the cold is it actually

recovers much quicker. That's fact. That's fact. All right, Jake. Sunday will mark Chief's quarterback Patrick Mahomes is first ever road playoff game in six seasons. He's played 13 playoff games at Arrowhead and he's 11 and two. The former Texas tech quarterback has only won a white jersey one time in his postseason career. It was last year in the Super Bowl against the Eagles. They were the road team technically in Super Bowl 55 against the Bucks and Lost and last year's Super Bowl as well.

So it's rare to see my homes in white in the playoffs. Is he an arrowhead merchant? Well, find out. Many are saying. Many are saying. Well, he also won a game in Miami at the Super Bowl and Phoenix. I'm just saying, is he an arrowhead merchant? That's what we will be saying about him after

this game. Yeah. And then for the bills elite protection for Josh Allen, the bills allowed 24 sacks this season, the fewest in the NFL and four fewer than the chiefs who are next on the list, the 28 sacks allowed by the bills are the fewest by any team since 20 there, 2011. What's the lake doing this weekend? Do we know? I think they dump more snow like this week, middle of the week. Who DARPA? Who dump more snow?

The lake. Okay, the lake did. The lake did. The lake. It's a great lake. Yeah, the lake did. It's one of my, it's one of the five great lakes. Yeah.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm looking at more snow. Orchard Park, weather. For Sunday, it's going to be a low 15. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm looking at more snow orchard park weather For Sunday, it's gonna be a low 15 so it's gonna be it's gonna be football weather. Yep Can the chiefs play in the cold We don't know who Late winners handoff to early spring can be increasingly above average temperatures for many Oh, I just went to weather.com. That's good. Oh for us. Yeah Oh, it's El Nino. Yeah, we got El Nino. I didn't know good. Oh, for us. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's

El Nino. We got El Nino. I didn't know was El Nino rocking with El Nino this year. Oh, warmer than average temperatures developed deeper into the new season. Okay. Okay. Uh, Delivered. We never find out if that video from last week at Arrowhead was real or fake. The one where they they had the bottle of water that instantly froze. I think it might have been real. There was like 10 people that went to the hospital for hypothermia. That kind of rocks.

I hope they had a special wing in the hospital and like red and yellow decked out for them. It's especially rocks if it was any of the guys with their shirts off. Yeah. That was just like real menacing-ish shit. Yep. Okay.

We're excited for games. You can watch us streaming all weekend. I think it's time we should get to our interview with Joe Flacco, which is a great interview. Before we do that, PFT, you got a quick word for our sponsors. Joe Flacco was going to be brought to you by Chevy and the Chevy Silverado. It's a truck with commanding and unstoppable grit, legendary capability and dependability to. We've all spent time, seat time, as they called in the biz, behind the wheel of a a Silverado and we're not just truck guys, we're Chevy truck guys. You know about the ZR2 family of trucks lifted, ready for anything right from the factory. Now Silverado is taking

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And now here's Joe Flacco. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest, Super Bowl champion and champion of our hearts. It is Joe Flacco, Cleveland Browns quarterback, hopefully Cleveland Browns quarterback next year we can get into that. Joe, we have to start though. Apologies. Happy birthday. Yesterday was your birthday. Yes, it was 39. You you got it, I appreciate it.

Yes, so we are, PFT and I are both January 1985 guys as well. Yep, so. There we go. Yeah, so we're turning 39 at the end of the month. How does 39 feel? I'm scared to get there. I wouldn't be, it's all good, man. The older we get, the better it is.

Yeah, well, I kind of feel like shit every day. So I'm hoping that once I turn 39, I'll just magically be better. Well, eventually when the older you get, if you feel like shit, you're just supposed to. So it starts to match up. Yeah, so I was reading actually before he came on, I saw an article back from 2021, I think,

about how your kids used to give you shit after jets games because you were losing and they'd be like, Dad, you stink. You can't pluck quarterback. I'm curious, though, were your kids watching the Browns this year and did they make up for any of that? Were they a little bit nicer to you after games? You know, it's funny. When all the good stuff's happening, they stay pretty quiet.

You can just see big smiles on their face, but it's not like they're jumping out of their seats to become compliment me. That's for sure. You just have to kind of read their faces and take it for what it is. I like that, though. You got just a group of haters in your house. Keep you motivated. Listen, true, true South Jersey slash Philadelphia born kids. That's for sure. Just natural born

haters. Yeah. Alright, so, so obviously the playoffs didn't go your guys way. How you feel? No, like, it was an awesome run. We, we, we've been a fan of yours for a very long time. It was great to see you back out there. Do you think like you're going to be, I want to see a place to more. Is that, is this reinvigorated you? Where it's like, cause I know you, I think I heard the story you were, you were doing interviews to be in media, and the next thing you know, you're playing in the playoffs. Honestly, man, that's the last thing I wanna do

is be doing interviews to get myself behind a camera. So, I'm gonna try to do this as long as possible and diminish those possibilities as much as I can. But yeah, I mean, of course, I think anytime you have a two-month period where you're able to play a lot of football and just have a ton of fun doing it. I just, how lucky was I to just get on a team that was ready to make a run like that and just be around a bunch of great guys, be back and do a lot of room. I mean, it just reminded me of all of great guys, be back and do a lot of room. I mean, it just reminded me of all of those things,

kind of come flooding back to you. I knew I wanted to play. I know I still want to play, but it's just a matter of getting the opportunity to do it. You don't know if that's gonna come and in what ways it's gonna present itself. So definitely, definitely reinvigorated to it. If that's what you wanna say to get back out there and do it.

You made a lot of GMs look stupid this year because this was the year where a lot of quarterbacks got hurt and we saw a lot of guys get their shot and then you show up and it's like, wait, yeah, Joe Flacco's really goddamn good. Like why, why wasn't Joe Flacco getting the call? Yeah, it's tough. You know, I think when you're around the league,

you see a bunch of things happen. And not everything makes sense. Some things do. It just is what it is. You have to be able to keep your head up and go with the flow to a certain extent. Honestly, for me, it's tough to think about the cause that I didn't get because I did end up getting one and it ended up being a really good one. I really do think, you know, so much about playing quarterback in this league, you know, is about handling what you can handle, but at the same time, you want to be in a good situation with good football players and good coaches. And I think that's kind of what I was put in. I was lucky enough to be

put in that situation. So what is it exactly about Cleveland that made it such a good fit for you? I tell you why, man, that city, it's interesting. I don't know why it ends up being a fit the way it was, but it's, it's obvious. You can, you can kind of figure out why you fit in the locker room and with the coaches, because you're around those guys every single day. It's just awesome to kind of you know make those new friends and make those relationships. I do think there was something special about just being there in the way

that people treated me and the team at the way you know the few weeks that I was there. I definitely felt a lot of love. My family did as well. I don't want to say people were going out of their way, but it was, you know, and I don't go out of my way to go out. I kind of went from the facility to my apartment every now and then grabbed a cup of coffee, facility apartment coffee, you know, and the people were just unbelievable and you could feel the excitement in the city. You could just tell that they're hungry for some winning football and, you know, it was nice to get to that point in the year where you can play some meaningful games

but you know they're craving some playoff wins and a chance at that super bowl. So you can just feel the energy of that in the city. Do you feel a little bit weird playing for the Browns, playing for Division Rival to Ravens? Like when you went in the facility the first time you had to be like, am I a trader? you had to be like, am I a trader? Oh man, what a way to put it, am I a trader? You know what, I think if it was right after the time that I was in Baltimore, it would have been a little bit different,

but I had been on a couple of different teams at this point. I mean, I've been in Denver, I've been in Philly, I've been in New York, I've also seen the business side of this and just how, you know, listen, guys want to play football. I'm one of those guys who wants to play football and if these guys are willing to give me a job, then yeah, I'm gonna go in there and test it out.

So I do think there's probably something to it if I went right from Baltimore to Cleveland and it wasn't traded there, maybe I chose to go there, I could see how that was. I mean, having said that, everybody, obviously the first question people ask is, what's it like, man, did you ever think you'd be in Cleveland if you're playing there all those years?

And obviously not, but it didn't feel weird being there. It felt like being back in the locker room. And for somebody that didn't get to do that for a couple months through training camp in September, October, and most in November, it just felt good to be a part of a locker room. I mean, I guess in one way, I mean, I really, the Baltimore organization came from there. When I was in Baltimore, I mean, people had obviously good stories about being in Cleveland. There's people from that organization in the front office that came from there. They're matched over with still in the team. He played in Cleveland.

I mean, so in one respect, you can kind of see the connection between the two. I know it's not necessarily the greatest thing between the fans, especially in Cleveland and stuff like that. But, you know, it's kind of cool the way things work out. Yeah, so I want to take it back a little bit because you're an all-time confidence guy. Even this year, the story's about how you're out of the league but you're still practicing, you're still growing out with your family, throwing balls. You know, the famous story about betting on yourself in the year you win the Super Bowl of free agency,

all-time confidence guy. But I didn't realize this, but I was reading about it. There was a time when you were in Delaware where you wanted to quit football. Where you're like, maybe I should just play baseball? Is that true? I always, as with every story, there's like truths in this, in the story. By the end of my junior year, I mean, no, I didn't want to quit football. The first year I had a Delaware, but when I was looking at colleges coming out of high school Playing baseball at some point was something that I had entertained and at least wanted to leave the option open to

Whether I could have played college baseball or not who knows? I brought it up to my to my football coach and you know to Casey Kieler when I at Delaware. And he pretty quickly shot it down. And at that point, I was OK with that. He loves telling the story about how Joe wanted to play baseball. And Joe, I think you're going to be OK. Just stick with the football thing. And he's got a whole story about it, which I love. It's awesome for him to tell.

But no, I mean, there is things. Of course, I did entertain wanting to play baseball, but no. I mean, there is things, of course. Like, yeah, I did entertain wanting to play baseball, but I had nothing to do with not wanting to play football. I mean, obviously, when you transfer from a division one school to a division one double A school, FCS school, yeah, there's thoughts that go through your head like, damn, like, can I do this?

And I think that's where like family members and friends and like, you know, being able to have that support system to keep your confidence going through those kind of like year and a half, a little bit of tough times that you have. And then you kind of come out of that. So yeah, that definitely helped. And there's definitely doubt that creeps in your head. I mean, shoot, like the last two months,

you don't think there was doubt that creeped into my head. I mean, it happens all the time. I think that's such a big thing. And part of it is just kind of, that's what is finding that daily routine and all those different things that distract you from like yourself and all those bad thoughts going into your head.

You don't want that shit, man. You want to go out there and you want to play and you want to think you're the man. And when you're not doing that, it is tough to think of that. Yeah. So you have to trick yourself to a certain extent, but more so, you just have to find things that you love to man and when you're not doing that, it is tough to think of that. So you have to trick yourself to a certain extent, but more so, you just have to find things that you love to do that distract you

from having those thoughts. So related off that, you're at Delaware and people are like, hey, you're gonna get drafted. At what point were you like, wait, I actually am gonna get drafted and pretty high. I mean, being a first-rounder, because I would imagine the process of transferring, being it, like you said, in 1 AA, you're thinking, like, all right, maybe I'll get drafted, like,

late in the draft and have a shot. Did it, was there a moment where you're like, oh, shit, all these people tell me I'm going to get drafted really high, like, it actually might happen. Yeah, that's the thought process, is when I go, like, okay, when you come out of high school and when you're a little kid, like, man, I want to be a first round pick, and I want to do this. And then you're transferring down a level, and you're like, all right, I'm going to have to, like, you know, get picked late, maybe if I play well here,

maybe I'll be a free agent. And like, after seeing how all that works, I mean, that's a tough path, especially, even if that is, even if that does happen, and you do find yourself, you know, in a mini camper, whatever it is, that's a tough path. So, went through that process, even on draft day, like at that point, I was like, okay, I'm going to be, I'm pretty confident.

I'm going to be drafted here. But even coming from a small school, is it going to be the first round? Is it going to be the third or fourth round? When's it going to be? I was very reluctant to let people come into my house and film that day because I'm like, I don't know when I'm gonna be picked to your guys. You could be here for three days. And it's not that bad of a thing

because it's not like I'm going somewhere myself. You guys are coming into my house, but yeah, I definitely didn't, it wasn't super confident that I was gonna be picked in the first round, which I was. It could have been third, fourth round still. You never really know. Yeah, it ended up being the perfect fit with the Ravens.

I heard that they loved you because of your arm and your ability to play in adverse weather conditions, which you have to do, you know, certainly in that division. So you get to the team and I don't know if you have a chip on your shoulder or what your motivation is at that point, but when did you first realize like, yeah, I belong here, I can start the NFL. You know, it's one of those things.

Every time you go up the level, there's a little bit of time where you have an, you're uncomfortable. And I think that's necessary to get to that next level. You have to be able to deal with that uncomfortable. And not being comfortable. And I think it makes you better when you kind of can go through that and get to that next level. So by the time you're a fifth year senior or whatever you are,

you're the guy in college, you're feeling good. You've already gotten past that. And now you realize, man, I'm gonna have to go through it again. I don't have to walk into a brand new bathroom where nobody has any inkling as to how well I can play. And maybe I can't, you know, and they're probably thinking, no, this guy probably can't play, but let's see. And you've got to go prove to everybody on your team that you can play. And then you have to get the confidence to

kind of at least fake it that you feel like you're that guy in the beginning and then eventually become that guy. So my first year, the first off season, the first training camp kind of weird. We had Troy Smith and Kyle Boller on the team, and I think they were kind of battling out to be the starter, and Kyle ended up hurting his shoulder and Troy ended up coming down with a sickness for like a month and two months.

I mean, it was something crazy. So kind of by just, you know, happenstance, I end up being that guy. And I think as soon as you become the guy and as soon as, so I remember it was this, we were playing St. Louis Rams, back in St. Louis, third preseason game, I wasn't supposed to play at all, supposed to be Troy and Kyle split down the middle. Kyle gets hurt at the beginning of the week and Troy, I forget if he made the trip, I think he made the trip, but it was like, he's pretty sick, we don't know if he's gonna make it.

And the morning of the game, they told me, Joe, you're the only quarterback you're playing the whole game. So I go from not playing at all, so you can imagine the mental mindset there, to now you're playing the entire game. And I think going out there and playing the entire game and getting the confidence,

they're like, okay, this is just football, I can do this. And doing it well, that's when it was just football I can do this and doing it well That's when it was like okay man, you're the God Yeah, and the and the mindset kind of switched it was like I it was like I got through that period of of you know the little hardships and Trying to prove it to your teammates trying to prove it to yourself trying to prove it to your coaches that you can do this And now it feels like everybody's starting to believe that you can do it. And it's just up to you to go do it.

And I think that's when it kind of all changed and really became real. Yeah, what about meeting Ray Lewis for the first time? Was that intimidating? Oh my God, I tapped them on the shoulder. I think I was in the hot belt maybe the first time and I just remember watching him walk by and say shit to him.

But the first, I think one of the first times was like I tapped him on the shoulder and shook his hand and it was like the hardest surface that I had ever touched in my life. And it was like, you know, you've grown up watching that guy run sideline to sideline and just, you know, just be super human. It was definitely a surreal moment to be in the same locker room with a guy like that. Yeah, those ravens seems to be interesting because you were obviously the leader of the offense,

but you're more of a reserved guy, you're more low key. You kind of, you never get too high, never get too low. And Rae is probably the most intense person to ever be creative on planet Earth. So like the two leaders in that locker room couldn't be further apart from each other. When Ra Ray would speak I've noticed this about Ray sometimes when he talks it doesn't matter sometimes the actual words that he says

It's like the spirit that he's can you know what he's saying Regardless of the words. So you just like sit there and nod you just get pumped up. Just listen to him talk right? Dude, it's incredible everything that he did was just incredible and it's so funny because like I think a lot of people see the The leaders that were on that team and they know me and they're like and they kind of there's there's a little bit of a push for people to try to like get me to be like that and it's like Dude like the guys that are Like Ray Lewis they respect people for being themselves like I, you know, so I'm gonna be myself. And, but I tell people, man, I never like, like, coming out of the tunnel, like, doing all that stuff, like, like, and not just coming out of the tunnel,

like, because that is cool. Come walk, running out of the tunnel and then end up out stadium. I don't do anything. I literally put my head down and run. But when you hear people cheer, it's an awesome feeling. I eventually kind of became tired of it. Can't we just let the defense come out every single week?

But growing up, I could care less to watch guys do different dances and different things like that coming out of the tunnel. And then you get to see Ray Lewis come out of the tunnel in person. And I swear to God, I might have been a week or two ago, we were in a QB meeting in Cleveland. And I was telling the young guys how bad I felt for them to never get to experience that in person. It was one of the most incredible things I've ever seen on a football field.

And it had nothing to do with the game. It was just him coming out of the tunnel, picking up a piece of sod and doing his thing. I don't even know how much he probably, I wonder how much he really even wanted to do that at the end, but everybody else had so much that was riding on it. You would look over to the sideline of the team that we were playing and every single person on that sideline and probably all the coaches in the booth were looking towards that tunnel to see him come out. It was incredible. And Charles Suggs and Ed

Reed also had awesome, you know awesome entrances But here's just it was it was just another level. Yeah, it was iconic. It was iconic. All right. I have a dumb question for you You throw an incredible spiral. We love watching you throw the deep ball. We call it a fuckable spiral So my question to you is Two part do you ever like throw a ball and you're like damn I throw a good spiral like to this day like shock yourself like man Joe you can really throw this fucking pig skin Uh, and then the other question is did you do you have a moment like I don't know how old you were But like the first time you threw one you're like wow I'm I can throw it

You know, it's funny because people have been asking me these questions recently I think everybody at some point has a throw where they were like, you know, you come to the sideline and you say to the other quarter back, so, oh man, you know, I don't know, I felt pretty good about that one. You know, you try to get kind of like, you try to like humbly bring it up in a way that you see that out. They can see right through it. They know what you're doing, but you know, it's tough for you to not try to bring it up. And then I was just talking to somebody and they were asking me, you know, like when did you throw? So when did you drive? You could throw it. I remember we were probably, I grew up 60 feet from my elementary school and we were in the school yard throwing a football, me and my dad. And it was like an NFL-sized football that he kind of thought was like

Oh, man, it's just a real NFL ball. It wasn't everyone. It was fake leather It weighed probably ten ounces less than a real football weighs and all that But I remember throwing it and like I said I could be I could I think I told it the other guy those two I could I could be making the story up completely. I was eight years old. I think I was in first grade But I threw a couple passes to him and I just remember the look on his face kind of like, all right, that was pretty good, but you know, like you could tell that like obviously he probably knew I could throw a little bit at that point, like at least a baseball. He knew I could throw a baseball, but to pick up a, you know, a decently sized football and be able to throw it. And then

I think I just remember seeing a little bit of a look on his face in his reaction and being like, maybe I can throw it, that's pretty good. I don't know. That's awesome. I mean, that was, yeah, your dad got to see the first Joe Flacco throw. That's like that guy, that kid can, he can throw.

He's probably a little upset. He's like, he's better than I am. Yeah, I mean, that look was a little bit like. For sure. That's a day of a father now. I think there's a little bit of that. Yeah. Have your kids ever have your kids done a flack-out throw yet? Where you're like, oh, I see that. Not to propose my oldest son. My oldest son is getting better and better at throwing the ball. My second son is very natural at throwing the ball. He's obsessed with wide receivers.

They're all obsessed with wide receivers. They all want to play wide out. And I'll let him, but my second son for sure is going to have to play quarterback. I think he's just too natural with brothers. I'm all, man. Another line of flakos would be awesome. It'd be good for the world, yeah.

I mean, we got the flag football and the Olympics coming up. I don't know, man. These kids, my kids are growing up a little bit different than I grew up. So I don't know if we want to see what they're all about. That could be trouble for everybody. So another hypothesis that we've had, I don't think we're the only ones to point this out, but you at your peak were very, very good at throwing slightly under thrown balls

to draw pass interferences. And we thought that sometimes you would do it intentionally. I don't know if you ever did intentionally, but it was actually a great, it was a strong suit of your offense where even if you had a mistro, there was still a pretty good chance that you guys were going to get like 30 yards on a PI. Was that ever something that you actively thought about? You know what, I wish you could think about that because that play works every single time. You're watching, you're sitting at home about that because that play works every single time.

You're sitting at home on the couch and you're watching NFL games and you're like, man, they got to do something about that role. That's such a shit situation for those defensive guys. No, listen, when we had Tori Smith, Tori could get out there. He could run. You had to get used to throwing the ball out there to him. So I think that's part of it. And part of it is just, you have to put the ball in the money.

And every now and then you're a little off. And if you put the ball up high, and those guys can do a good job with jumping up, especially when those guys jump, when they jump and leave their feet, that's when the best one they really get called. Listen, I wish I was good enough to actually actively think about under throwing balls because I knew I couldn't make a good enough pass. And then next thing you know, we get pit PIs.

I think I've played with some guys that run good go balls and the amount that you do it, you're going to have it. You're going to have it as much of those. Yeah. I would assume your favorite throw was the touchdown to Jacobi Jones like the the 70 yard touchdown Against the Broncos in the your Super Bowl run. Was that run though? Like could you feel like you were kind of in the zone because that was that was the best Joe Flacco like betting on himself And now he's just balling out in the playoffs

I think when you're in the middle of the run you're just trying to take it week by week Obviously when you when you when you win a game like that, I think in the back of your head, there is a little bit of like, man, like, I've seen guys win games like that, like teams win games like that. And then they go win the Super Bowl. I think we all probably had that. You know, listen, with that team, we had been through so much. We had been the two AAC Championship games already. We lost the New England the year before with that team, we had been through so much. We had been to two AAC Championship games already. We lost a new England the year before that. Like we were a confident team that had been through a lot, but I do think that gave us

an extra boost, winning that football game against Pete Manning up in Denver. It gave us that little bit of like, you know, you're not necessarily aware of it, but it just gave us that confidence. Because I remember being, you know, we went up to New England after that and where we lost the week, the year year before and we beat them and I don't think anybody was thinking anything of it we were like we're going up to New England and we're gonna win and obviously it's easy to say that looking back but even in New Orleans down the Super Bowl that year I just there's just a sense of calm

about everybody there we were having fun enjoying each other and we were just ready to go win a football game so So yeah, I think that definitely went a long way. It just gave us that extra little something that we probably didn't even realize was there. Whether it was confidence or whether it was just like, man, we just got to go play. Yeah, this is what it's about. It's just going and playing football and playing as loose as you can. And it translates into victory. So, John New Orleans, during the Super Bowl, lights go out at halftime. What was that like?

How did you guys regroup? Were you talking to each other? Were you going over extra things? Or were you just sitting around just waiting for the lights to come back on? I think we were mostly sitting around kind of fake stretching, you know, acting like we were stretching

and doing active warm ups just to kind of, you know, acting like we were stretching and doing active warm-ups just to kind of, you know, act like we were doing something. But I don't think anybody really knew what to do. And we didn't play very well after that. So it's just one of those things that, you know, who knows how you're supposed to react, that I'm sure you have to, because we didn't know how long was going to last either. I mean, you know, today they turn the lights back on and off with a flick of like, you know, it's not even a second. Back then it's like, all right, how long is it going to take these things to get going and then do they need to warm up at all? Like, what's the deal here? And it was, I think it was not long after half time, I'm either, which, you know, was, was, is an extra long show at that time of the year. So,

I, it's such a blur. You remember pretty much nothing like how it actually was from that time. But I remember just mostly not doing that much. Did you, I know it's a soup bowl, so there's a lot of pressure, but did you feel any extra pressure knowing your coach had to beat his brother? Because like that's, we've had both Harbaugh's on, we've had Jim Harbaugh on a bunch. And like you can tell it still bothers him's still bothers him that his brother beat him.

I'm an older brother. John's the older brother. I think I actually found a little sense of comfort that fate was on our side. The little brother ain't supposed to be the older brother and the super bowl the first time they go together. It's just not how it works out. Yeah, because I think that's probably the main reason why Jim is going to come back in the super bowl the first time they go together you know it's just not how it works out yeah yeah cuz it it does still here i think that's probably the main reason why jim is going to come back in the NFL at some point is because he can't live with the fact that his brother is a super ball over yeah i i think i saw him say something about after he won the national championship i

think i saw him say something about that he can he can sit at the big boy table now because he's made he's one you know he's won a championship. Listen, they're both incredible coaches. I don't think they need to do anything. I think they love to do it, and they're really good at it. John has been involved in more of his whole career, but everywhere Jim's gone. He's made team's winner. He's made that team a winner.

So it's pretty special. Yeah, what is it about John that makes him such a great coach? Because it is watching the NFL. And there's a few teams that have coaches that have been there for a long time. But there's a lot of teams just revolving door. And John Harboss, one of those guys that it just year in and year out, you have a consistently really good team.

What is it compared to other coaches that he's doing that gives him that consistency? Well, it's his attention to detail. I mean, it's all the little things that you get to see a little bit of behind closed doors. But it's his attention to detail. He wants to have a physical football team. You know, he's been around winning football team. So he sees kind of what wins and what wins late in season. So what kind of people he needs to put on the roster.

And it's a great organization. I mean, they have a lot of help. You know, there's a lot of help around that building. A lot of people to rely on to make sure the roster's where it should be and capable of winning big football game. Yeah, yeah. If you were to use one word to describe Your career and your ability as a quarterback. What would that one word be?

Hmm. I Don't have one man. He years in the wrong guy. No, we just start with an E. Yeah Then it hell and then I wasn't even thinking about it. Oh come on I want to even think it about me. Come on. You know what? My four high school buddies, four of my high school buddies came out to the the Jets game on Thursday night and one of them had sweatshirts made up with that on it.

So and they were wearing them all for a good week. You know, so shout out the bar still sports store. That's not going to be my self. I'll let everybody else have fun. You won't even say the e-word. That's not gonna be my second. I'll let everybody else have fun. You won't even say the E word. You won't even say a lot. Are you sick of it? Are you sick of it?

That's a funny thing, man. Back when I came in, like back in 08, 9, 10, 11, that's just the word everybody threw around. You know what I mean? It's the word everybody threw around. And I was winning a bunch of games of Baltimore, but my stats were never gonna fly off the stat sheet and be like, oh, you know, look at Joe Black, go through for 350 yards and three touchdowns.

But we were winning games because, and we had to formula with how we won games. So I think that always kind of came, and that word always came up around me because it was like, okay, you've won a lot of football games here, and you just playing good football, but at the same time, it's not like he's throwing for 350 and four touchdowns every week, like some of these other guys. So it was one of those things that was like, can we call him that? Yeah, yeah, and it needed to be kind of came that thing.

It became the unanswerable question. You are. But you're a little bit, it's just kind of, what happened Joe was, it was like, it was right around the time you're right and somebody talked about it on ESPN, somebody brought it up one time

and then it felt like for the next two years as they were talking about your contract, you would always be like, Rod, do you want to pay him? Is he elite? It just became like a catch phrase that got attached to you. And then I saw it out to answer the unanswerable question. And going on 13 years here, I still don't know,

but I think that you all. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. One funny thing is, is now people could like, listen, I have bodies wearing the sweatshirt because they're like, yeah, damn right, he's elite. And I got, and I have the tractors that are probably out there saying, that are out there probably using it as kind of like one of those like kind of like a meme, a joke, you know, they're joking about the fact that I am. So it kind of goes both ways. But you are. Yeah, and listen, at the end of the day, it's like, it's a story. If somebody,

it's something to talk about, and I have a lot of fun with it, I'm always laughing. My buddy picked me up from my buddy. I was I was going out to California. I forget what I was doing. I was visiting pit of Dennis pit of for some reason. And he had he had a couple people from his agency pick me up in the car and they had some elite meter that they picked me up with with my face on it. And they just got. I wonder who made that. Yeah, PFT made made that but it is an answerable question PFT is just putting on real nice being humble because it's is Joe Flackle Lee PFT. You want a Super Bowl? There it is That's all you have to say I want a super and scene

Yeah, yeah Exactly you know you're early for us. There's more to it. There's more to it than that. No, that's it. It's as simple as it could be. You got to be super bowl. Flag's fly forever.

Yeah, so like the whole debate about that, for us, it was more about making fun of the people in the media that actually use that word and made, you know, like two years worth of content about it. It's like, it's a meaningless title that you're assigned to a guy. And I heard that you had gotten sick of people saying that to you. So I felt personally bad. I just wanted to reach out and be like,

Joe, we're just bringing this up all the time because we're making fun of them for using it. Yeah, no, listen, I was never sick of it. Like I said, if people were having fun with it, then I'm all for it, man. It's just, I probably felt the same way that you guys do about it. We're still talking about this stupid little thing that we're just trying to label random guys by. It's just funny that you know how long people can talk about something for

it. And usually they're using it to shit on you to some level you know what I mean. But like putty, but who cares? Like that is what it is man. That's part of it. It's what makes it kind of fun. Yeah, it's the quintessential we have nothing to talk about in August. Let's tear the quarterbacks and call the top tier elite. That's that's literally it That sports media like hey, we don't have anything to talk about. All right, who's elite this year? But you did win a Super Bowl. So you are elite. Yeah, people forget that. That's a fact. That's a fact So our good friend. I think you've seen his work, Stavros, Big Joe Flacco guy.

He's a good friend of ours. He's been on the show a bunch. What do you think about his videos? I mean, he loves you. Just a certain way you throw that spiral. Some about Flacco. Yeah, listen, he's awesome. I'm going to have to make an effort to get to one of his shows this off season, for sure.

I just watched his special, but I was watching it by myself. I want to go out there and actually have a full experience, but he's unbelievable. And as you can imagine, everybody in my life sends me every single video that he's ever had. So I see him all and they're off. Yeah, I mean, Savros is a huge fan, I'm sure that it would make his day. Yeah, probably his life just hearing that you want to come to one of his shows. You have to go to one of his shows. Yeah, you'll go. You'll love it.

He's so good. He's a big time, you know, the Baltimore Camo Pants, the ones that Ravens fans. So you know what? So he must have been on the sideline at a game recently. And Chad Steele, who works in Baltimore, he's in their media. He kind of he's he's running the show over there. Had a picture with him on the sideline and sent it to me. And he was wearing the he was wearing the Camo pants. He had he had his head rejurzy on it. He was going strong. Yeah. That's the most Lamar. It most the most Baltimore outfit that you can possibly.

Yeah, what do I need to know about the Camo pants? Because I have a future on the Ravens and someone sent me the Camo pants. So I think I'm going to have to wear them on a live stream if they get to the AFC championship game. Like do I have to fight someone? I'm not really sure to be honest with you if they ask it. I feel like I do. I feel like I got to just get in a little bit of a tussle.

It is the one thing that Ravens fans, they're known for across the like Pittsburgh. Yeah, you've got the terrible towel, but you don't have the black, gray, and purple camouflage fans. It's the best cable flage out there. It's badass. Yeah. Oh, all right. So who's the best, uh, who's the best player you ever played with or like could be

offense or defense, but guy who like was just different you watched and was just different Listen, I mean that's easy. I mean we just talked about okay. Not Ray Lewis. Not Ray Lewis. Yeah Can I say head read? Yeah, could you would every pick you often in practice like all the time? Ah, I wouldn't say all the time Ed was incredible, man. He was so fun to watch. He was the best. It was like, you know what,

so you grow up playing on the school yard or in your backyard or wherever you're playing and you're playing defense. And you know, you know, you got a guy covered, but you're leaving him open by a couple yards, just so the quarterback throws the ball to him and then as soon as you see him go throw the ball, you know you got a guy covered, but you're leaving him open by a couple yards, just so the quarterback throws the ball to him, and then as soon as you see him go throw the ball, you go pick it all.

And every kid that can kind of play a little bit, they do that. They just have a knack for going to pick in a ball off, or going and making sure they make the catch. And Ed Reed was doing those things in NFL games. I swear to God, he was like, leaving the guys just slightly. He knew that he knew where he could be on the field to get the guy to throw the ball and that he would be able to get there and make the pick.

And you just expected pick sixes from him every game. It became, it became that crazy. Like I think he sat out the first six games of one year, started on the public and then he had like, he still had eight picks. And like, who knows how many of those were for touchdowns and you know a team would be driving on you and the next thing you know he'd go a hundred yards on an interception return. They'd be tossing it back and forth to each other the whole way down the field. It was he was incredible just because he was such a good athlete. I always tell this story and I think it's true.

Darren Sprouls caught a touchdown pass against us in San Diego, out of the backfield. He kind of just ran a little rail route out of the backfield and went like 80 yards for a touchdown. And a couple series later, Ed Reeves like cover two safety on the left side of the field and Darren Sproul has come out of the backfield on the right side of the field.

Ed's supposed to be way back deep. And now, like, I don't exactly know what defense are our defense was in there, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was. And Ed belines towards DARREN's brawl on the complete other side of the field, nowhere near where he's supposed to be. And in this case, Vincent Jackson ended up catching a touchdown on the beat part of that side of the field. Now I could be, like I said, I don't know exactly what our defense was playing. Maybe that maybe I'm making this up into a certain extent of him freesiling back there.

But that's what he was, man. He saw something. He made decisions and he went and did it. And I mean, he just such an unbelievable football player. There's an all-time clip of Belicech breaking down film with Tom Brady. And they're watching an Ed Read play where he was baiting the quarterback and doing something because he had put something on film earlier that season. So it was like they were like doing like three layers of deception on each other. I think Belicec called it the best play they's ever seen out of any player. Yeah, he was just so good at naturally doing that stuff.

He just had that feel. Yeah. There was one great, well, you probably won't think that it's a great series, but one of the most memorable series when I think of Joe Flacco, I think of, I believe it was 2015 and it was against the Rams. And that's when you, when you hurt your knee, you tore your ACL, uh, did you say your MCL tour was just the ACL? Yeah, the MCL was shot shot i got that repair to so it the final drive of that game you played what last three plays

with a torn acl and the cl to win the game did you ever think about coming out of the game at all or you like no keep me in we have a we have a few gold rath to finish here so you know i'd hurt my mcl couple times you know before that and you're always kind of curious. And did I just tear my knee? What did I just do?

And this time, I knew. I was like, okay, that's what a tour knee feels like. You know, you could kind of feel the MCL get pushed in and the ACL just kind of felt like a million bursts. It just felt like my knee blew up. So I remember thinking, like, okay, you're not going to be able to do much here. It just felt like my knee blew up. So I remember thinking like, okay, you're not gonna be able to do much here. Like just get up all, get up and get off the field.

Like don't stay down. So I hop up and I start kind of like hopping on it, just kind of testing it out. And I'm kind of half don't decide mine. And I'm like, okay, it's not that bad. It's just, you know, I know I tore my knee, but I can still kind of move and walk and kind of run on a little bit.

And we were near field goal range. I think I just handed the ball up a couple more times. I had just thrown a slam and I was standing in the pocket for like, you know, if the play was way over, I was standing in the pocket, kind of just thinking, all right, the play's over. And then boom, I got kind of pived in on. So I kind of let my guard down a little bit. And that's when it got hurt.

But yeah, I just ended up handing the ball off for a couple more plays and I walked through the sideline and said, guys, I just tore my knee. And I kind of went into a locker room and right after we kicked the field, I'll go to win and that was it. Yeah, crazy, tough, crazy. But, you know, tough, fast, tough motherfucker.

Are you tough motherfucker? You, I did, I still probably didn't want my family making fun of me for laying on the field and back. I'm like, you know, I don't know if I should say it here, but it's a popular word in our family. And I don't want to get trouble. But I didn't want to be a pussy. Yeah.

I got you up for it. You didn't say it. I did. Our Philly Guy Matt says it all the time. We understand that. Yeah. We got a Philly Guy who, it's like the, every other word out of his mouth.

So don't worry. Yeah. It's like for whatever reason, it was like the one word that when we were like seven years old, we got a white man saying in our house. That's not a question. It's like, yeah, my son's a man now. I just, I also like the fact that like mild manored, very nice Joe Flacco is surrounded by a bunch of haters that will call him pussy.

Even your kid will tell you that you stink. Yeah, you're just like, you know what? It really gets the world, Joe. Yeah. All right, so know what? That's right. You get to the world, Joe. Yeah. All right, so I got a couple last questions. One was the famous I alluded to it earlier, the bet on yourself here, where you win a Super Bowl. Was there any moment before that where your agent was like,

H.O. this is a lot of money, like we should probably take this deal. And you're like, no, I'm about to go win the Super Bowl. Like, don't you worry. I think at some point he probably had that thought process, but by the time I got to the end win the Super Bowl. Like, don't you worry. I think at some point, he probably had that thought process, but by the time I got to the end, he was fully, I'll give him credit. He was fully with me. You know, he was.

And because I think some people were thinking, man, like, what the hell is your agent doing? And I was like, if I agent doing what I'm telling them to do, or like, I don't want it, you know, it is what it is. Listen, people, it's funny the way that it's, it's not funny, it's crazy the way it all worked out. I mean, I didn't think it required winning a Super Bowl to get paid.

I mean, obviously today, look, it doesn't. You know, if you're the quarterback of the franchise, you get paid. I mean, that just is what it is. In my first four years, we had been to the ANC Championship game twice. It was like, to my standpoint, it was like, why would I take that when that's not necessarily

what the rate is? It wasn't like a bet on myself thing. It was like, I can't do that. And it wasn't about the money. It was just about like being respected for the quarterback that I felt like I was. And I think there is probably an obligation to some extent as a quarterback to get as much as he can for the guys that are coming behind you, but ultimately that doesn't matter. I never really looked at it as betting on myself. I just looked at it as a common sense decision.

This is what I could have or this is what I should get. Like I said, it really was a common sense decision. I think most people that feel like they're good at something if they were presented with that situation would make the same decision. I just thought like, to me, it just kind of made sense. And it, it's funny the way, it's crazy the way it worked out. But that's how, that's just kind of what happened. I don't know if it would have changed the outcome in terms of like three years after that,

three years after that, who knows what would happen. It's good back. Yeah, it was one of the best bets ever, like in sports history. There you go. It really was. It was a great bet again. Yeah. Yeah.

It's, you know, also it's, it's, it's, it's once again, it's one of those things that people can make a good story and say, hey, Joe Black, I'll bet on himself. How crazy is that? But, you know, I'll bet on himself, how crazy is that? But, you know, I didn't do it that way. Did you ever think about leaving Baltimore after that season? Was that in the equation at all? No, no. I don't think it ever got that far. I didn't want to do that. I'm a pretty loyal person and just in terms of general,

like, you know, in everything. You know, so my mind doesn't go there. I don't really want to go there. You know, I love that place and that city's incredible, such an unbelievable football camp. The fact that it took as long as it did to get a football team back there after the cults left is crazy to me, just because I think if you can go,

I think you can go to a game there, each and every week and see how special it is. I'd imagine you're rooting for them that's your pick to win the Super Bowl. I'm not rooting for anybody man when you don't when you're not the guy in it man it's like oh my god who do I who do I root for here why do I why do I have to root for anybody I think they are I mean look at them I mean what they're 13 and 4 I think they are. I mean, look at them. I mean, they're 13 and four. They're rolling. But I looked at them in the beginning of the year.

I, you know, when I was watching them in the beginning of the year, they were winning football games and like they and everybody was like, oh, yeah, they're the Ravens. They didn't, they didn't look like they had put it all together yet, to be honest with you. They just, you know, they, yeah, they were scoring points, but like it was, you know, it just wasn't, I don't, I don't think it was necessarily the best yet, but man, the last, the last third of the season or so, they just really seemed to put it together in every little facet of the game and they are looking good. They're looking, they're looking like the best right now. So they're going to be tough to beat for sure.

All right. So in terms of a headline grab You already said that you wanted to keep playing that you got the confidence back and we saw that the arm the arms very much still there You can still play Do you want to come back to Cleveland next year? Oh man Man Cleveland was unbelievable I am definitely open to be back in Cleveland

At the same point like I don't want to rush to any decisions either. I didn't know what the market for Cubes was going to look like last spring, and I don't know what it's going to look like this spring. So I don't know if I'm going to have options or if I'm going to have zero options. I love Cleveland though. I love the building, the people, everything about it. I think, you know, it's funny when you go from, you know, when you, when you get to see a few different organizations and then you go to Cleveland and, you know, I don't think

people really, you don't think you ever hear too many like, oh man, Cleveland's an awesome organization and they've done this well and not done that well. But I can't say enough good things about how that organization is being run right now and And the atmosphere and the building and the way that guys feel like their futures headed. So I think it I think it would be a very special place to be If I have the opportunity to go back there. Yeah, all right So I got one last question. It's a rowback question. RHO BACK.com use promo code take 20% off the first purchase QZips polo So these shorts joggers. I'm wearing the polo right now. Best, best clothes out there, great golf attire,

rowback.com promo code take. One thing I respected out of you, Joe, is that you voiced your displeasure for the Wildcat offense and how stupid it is. How stupid did you feel when they made you stand out wide, just standing out there because the Wildcat offense was great for when the one year that the dolphins did it and it took everyone's surprise. Now teams run it and it's like they never even, there's

no pass option. It's just a run. So like you're not confusing anyone. It's just taking the ball out of your quarterback's hands. You know, I think when I expressed my displeasure for it, I probably wouldn't do it the same way today. You know, I think sometimes, you know, personal things get in the way of, you know, other things. It probably wasn't the most important thing to like express my distaste for it. You know, like sometimes that's what you do. That's how you react in the moment. You know, maybe you look back and maybe that's not how I should have handled it, but it is. At the same time, if you're going to do it, just take me off the field.

Right. You know, like let's get an actual football player here so that we can actually accomplish something for real. So yeah, it is what it is. Like I said, I think at this point, hey, if that's what we wanna do, all right, is it gonna help us win? All right, let's do it.

At the moment, I probably didn't quite feel that way. So yeah, I said it. I stood with you. Like it never made, you're absolutely right. If you have to run the Wildcat, lay your quarterback get off the field and put another wide receiver out there. Someone can block, like, you're gonna run it Wildcat, lay your quarterback get off the field and put another wide receiver out there. Someone can block.

Like, you're gonna run it. So why are you, why are we playing these games? It makes no sense. Yeah. Get a quarterback up in your face. It's like trying to jam you at the line of screaming. Yeah. I don't need this shit.

Yeah. Believe me, that's why when I go out there, I say like five yards off the ball. So there's no chance of me looking like an idiot. They're gonna come up and surprise me. And like, I'm gonna act like a little baby. I'm gonna act like a skater. I'm gonna act like somebody just came around

the corner and scared me. Like, that's the last thing that's gonna happen to me. I'm not saying it couldn't happen to me. Like, they get embarrassed me big time. That's why I don't need to leave it up for you. I don't even leave it up in the air for it to happen. Yeah, I have one last last question. Thank you, Joe.

This has been awesome. It's been a long time, come and we hope you have we have you back on. You're gonna be great in media, by the way. Would you decide to do that? You're gonna be really good. Yeah you, Joe. This has been awesome. It's been a long time, come and we hope you have you back on. You're going to be great in media, by the way. Wouldn't you decide to do that? You're going to be really good. Yeah, but you're a good looking guy. Yeah, you're a little fence, but you're a good looking guy.

I don't want to be good. I don't want to do that. No, you are. When you get the little beard going, the little five o'clock shadow, you're hot. You know, you're literally hot. There's one you're Joe got to make over. He came to can't like looking all different.

Yeah, looking like a grown ass man. That was a good year. Guys got to pump each other up in 2024. Like, you're good looking dude. It's okay to say. I appreciate it. Well, all right, so my last last question at your farthest. How far could you throw a football? I write around 75 yards. That's a maybe a little bit more, a little bit more a little bit less on the given day. But yeah, I don't know if that's happening anymore. When I was coming out of college,

I worked on throwing the ball farge, but it was fun. Nowadays, I don't really make it a priority, but I could still go throw it out through the ball post from the 50 yard line. Maybe the opposite, 45, so. That's awesome. Love it.

I love it. I love watching you throw passes. Well, Joe, thank you, man. This has been, uh, we wanted to have you on for a very long time. And it didn't disappoint at all. So, uh, hopefully we get to keep watching you play football. And like PFT said, love to have you back on anytime. Yeah. I love it, fellas. I appreciate it. Joe Flecko was brought to you by Morgan and Morgan and Fire Fest is sponsored by our friends at Morgan and Morgan. Fixing your Fire Fest can be hard, submitting a claim with Morgan and Morgan is easy. If you're ever injured, you can check out Morgan and Morgan.

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529 from your cell phone that's f-o-r the people.com slash PMT or pound law pound 529 from your cell. This is a paid advertisement. All right. Let's wrap it up. Another great week. That was awesome having Joe Flacco on. He's the best. Yeah. Love Joe. He's definitely gonna come back on. I just was smiling year to year having him on. Henry, Fire Fest of the Week. Yes. My Fire Fest, I guess, really a Fire Fest, it's not that serious, but I was naive or kind of forgot

about how crazy some people can be on online. Oh, I obviously, years ago, a couple of years ago, I was in a public relationship. We had a public break up dealing with all the kind of crazy people coming out of the woodwork and saying stuff. Was a lot, so I have actively avoided putting anything out there for the last three years, keeping the private life private. But this I thought was the Tiffany thing going to Dallas was,

it was content, it was show content, it was somewhat tongue in cheek, obviously I like spending time with her. But people online just take it way too far, they say crazy things and they kind of ruin the fun for everyone. Oh no, what do people say? People were just sending egregious messages,

saying, not, not, well, people were just saying crazy stuff and just kind of taking the phone out of it. I was, how I would describe it. Should we do it just chill out, man? Yeah, yeah, it's more, it's like it's more, I should have known going into it that this was probably gonna be the outcome. Yeah.

But I will definitely be going back to zero dark private life mode. Zero dark Henry. Yeah. I like that. Because it's fun. I enjoy it. And you know, 90 nams from the people are fun. They play along.

It's it's all good banter. But then there's the 1% of people. People that will DM and and and and just go way over the top. That's really that's all I'll say. Yeah, right, I was my fire best. I was naive. It's blinded. Yeah, you forgot the internet is the internet.

Yeah, especially guys, little different girls sometimes it gets a lot quickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that is my fire best. And they still had a fun week. I had a great week That that is also the other part of kind of you know, they ruined it for the people they ruined it for me No, no, no, no, it's the memories you have true. Yeah, that hole in the wall will always be there What is it? What are you what is this thing like the memories?

You keep your memory take only pictures leave only foot keep keep all those memories in the spank bank Is that the same take only pictures, leave only foot prints. Keep all those memories in the spank bank. Is that the saying? Take only pictures, leave only leg imprints. Yeah, that's good. I like that hang. And everything else goes in the spank bank. Sure. I'm rooting for you, Hank, to find love.

Thank you. That's what you want. Yeah, if you don't want it, then don't. I'm rooting for you to find love and not you. That's what you want. Yeah, if you don't want it then don't. I'm rooting for you. You don't want love. I'm rooting for you to find love and not tell anybody about it. Yeah.

Yeah, well that's unfortunately what will happen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you'll find it. Sure. Hank's single, ladies. I'm not. Not the press release. You're not?

I'm not anything. Oh, you're not talking about it. Oh, we're not talking about it. Oh, we're not talking about it. That's right, it's not. It's not my bad, my bad. Hank's just Hank. Hank is Hank. And he's a catch, 100%.

If I was on the market. If he was on the market, and if he's not, then leave him alone. But if he is, then go get some. I like this. New mysterious Hank. Yeah. Yeah.

The man of mystery. I like this. Okay. Well, Yeah, yeah. The man of mystery. I like this. Okay, well, yeah, good reminder that the internet is the internet. I'm sorry that that happened to you or TIFF. Sounds like it might happen more to TIFF. No, not even names. Yeah, okay, PFT.

Yeah, I had a pretty clean week this week. I don't have a lot to complain about besides the cold, which continues to affect me in various ways that I never thought possible. First, my garage door got frozen shut to the ground, which I didn't think could happen. And then it was so cold outside the other day that my car told me it was being broken into.

And so I just looked at my car, and they were like, warning, do not approach your car. There might be somebody breaking into it. I just looked outside at my car and I was like, no, it's just a cold. It's just really cold. The cold tried to break. Yeah, yeah, Jack Frost broke into the car. So yeah, besides that, I've had a pretty clean week overall. I am developing too much of a obsession with tracking flights online. So that's the one thing that I can do. And I love the flight tracking culture that gets built up around, especially college football.

It's so good. I always say that if you had these college message boards on 9-11, those planes would be grounded immediately because the people that are able to track flights and flight aware are so fucking good at it. So I've been dealing my flight tracking obsession and I also downloaded a flight simulator to my phone now. Hell yeah.

Which I've been using everywhere that I go. And that's become more of a problem for me because you quickly realize, I'll like look up from my phone and be like, well, that was an hour and a half. Yeah, yeah. With me playing a flight simulator on my phone. Nothing better than that game.

And then people will be like, well, what did you accomplish in the last hour and a half of playing this flight simulator on your phone? And I'll be like, well, I got 700 Ace Coins. I'm like, oh, what is an Ace coin? Well, with that many Ace coins, I can buy this many pieces of silver. Oh, that silver, what do you get?

Oh, I get to buy this many pieces of gold. So basically, I've installed crypto in my own version. Yeah. And then you can get the pop up that's like for a flash deal, 49.99, you can get a thousand pieces of silver. I do it with all those phone games, and I just spend like 200 bucks on my game. What the fuck am I doing?

Between me and you, I did the flash deal. I was like, I was like, wait, I can get a plane that has a nuclear tip rocket on it. I want the fucking nuke, I want a nuke somebody. Every time I do the sim golf or whatever it's called, the fuck, what is it? They have all these kicks. Pixel pro.

Golf, I've done the winter Olympics. It's those are the best. You buy new skis. It's only cost you 20 bucks. This is my floppy down there. Pixel Pro, Pixel Pro, Golf, I've done the winner Olympics. Yeah. Those are the best. You buy new skis. Yeah. It's only cost you 20 bucks. This is my floppy down the ring. This is my first in-app purchase of my life on a game.

Oh, man. I wish I am. I'm going back for more, baby. I probably spent thousands of dollars on in-app purchases. Been like, yeah, give me this. Okay, oh, I can get new clubs. Oh, I can throw it faster in this football game. Oh, great.

I'm thinking about going home tonight. I'm gonna get an F-16. I'm gonna get an F-22. I'm gonna get that nuclear tip, Missile, for sure. And yeah, I'm just gonna fill my hangar. My online internet hangar, which is not real. Don't little tip that someone who's done a lot of the in-game purchases.

Don't buy them all, because you wanna keep yourself having something you can love. Yeah, I wanna earn some of this. Yeah, because once you buy it all because you want to keep yourself having something you can love yeah I want I want to earn some of this yeah cuz once you buy it all then you're like wait I just spent a hundred bucks and now I beat the game I got off to such a good start in this game too so I was getting all these airplanes I was getting all these upgrades just through my own skill and I told myself I'm not gonna buy any coins why I'm not some fucking loser. I'm a good pilot And I'm gonna be able to earn them on my own. And then somehow, I don't know if they did this on purpose,

but somehow after you achieve a little bit of initial success, it gets a lot harder to get the next airplanes. And then you're like, well, I got to buy these fucking airplanes. So yeah, my brain's become part of the algorithm, right? Yeah, yeah, that happens. It happens. All right, my firefests is I had an all-time, all-time mind-fuck on Sunday. I took my son to a birthday party for one of his classmates. I had an all time, all time mind fuck on Sunday.

I took my son to a birthday party for one of his classmates, five years old, the kid was turning. And I got in my car, I looked at the calendar to see where the birthday party was, and I was like, huh, I kind of recognize this. Go to the birthday party, walk in, and it was my apartment that I lived in with four of my friends 16 years ago. Whoa. My exact apartment. I was sitting in my exact apartment

from 16 years ago and it was like, I was just sitting there watching a magician with my four and a half year old with all his friends. Then we went to their play room. Their play room was my bedroom from 16 years ago. So your play room? Yeah, it was my play room. It was the room that I think I've told the story before. Did they renovate it? Was the one that you flooded?

No, it was one of my roommates did flood the upstairs. He got drunk and fell asleep when he tried to draw a bath for himself and he fell asleep. It's like a fucking inch and a half of water. This is the apartment that I've told the story when we tried to get one of my buddies to drink an entire bottle of maloort before the soup bowl and then he puked everywhere in the house, including in my bedroom. That was the bedroom I was sitting in watching my son play with his friends. And I was just like, how the fuck did I get here?

Yeah, it's pretty wild. It was a renovation level. They redid the basement, wasn't carpet. It was like, it the fuck did I get here? Yeah, it's pretty wild. It was a renovation level. They redid the basement, wasn't carpet. It was like, it looked nice. Like, it was, when we got it, it was like me and for my buddies, and it was like, we trashed it. It looked, I actually asked the owner, because I was like, I used to live here,

and they're like, what? They're like, here? I was like, literally right here. And they're like, oh, yeah, someone bought the apartment complex like a few years ago and put a bunch of money into it. So it looked way nicer, but I was sitting in my bedroom at least they hadn't seen your direct result.

Correct. Like you lived here. Correct. Yeah. Damn, big, if you live here. I mean, it's 16 years long, long time, but yeah, it was a complete mind-fuck just sitting there. Like again, watching a magician with my four and a half year old.

It's like when you go into elementary school and you're like, wait, this is small. Right. Why is this so small? It was just like, yeah, and like, even little things like, my son was like, go to the bathroom. I was like, well, I know where it is. I lived here.

You look around the room, you start crying, and they're like, oh, are you watching your son play? No, I'm just thinking about the time I won the tanky-tank take you games with beer pong with the corner. Yes. It's that type of apartment. There should be a car facts for apartments where you can find out the injury report.

It's the tenants. Yeah. Yeah, on the tenants that were there previously. So you know exactly what kind of bedroom was this. Yeah. There was some, yeah, we did some shit in there. What can I say? I still get a lot of my old,

I have my mailbox gets two people's mails. Different. Oh yeah, I've been changed. I've been changed. Do I open these? I kind of want to know a little bit about them. I kind of gather there. I open them, try.

I have it. Federal crime. Federal crime. But it's like they just, it keeps showing up. Yeah, you just, and then someone will open this for me. It's crazy. It's crazy.

Yeah, or just throw it out. That's what I'm doing. My own. And they'll figure, like, the mail, it will find you. Like, they'll figure out that they're sending the wrong people and then they'll find you. They do return to sender on it. Yeah, send it back to them.

I always just leave other people's mail in my mailbox. Like, I take my mail and then I put the other mail back in the mail box. And so your mailbox just became full? I have a pretty big mailbox. Don't get a lot of mail. I probably check my mail maybe in the mail box. So your mailboxes became full? I have a pretty big mailbox. Don't get a lot of mail. I probably check my mail maybe once a month. Same.

Mail is so stupid. Yeah. Packages are what is the package mail. Anything in an envelope? Dumbest thing in the world. How big is your box, Max? It's big box. Box the year?

Mailbox, M-A-L-E, B-O-X. Oh, yeah, it's wide set. It's a wide set box. It's a wide set box. It's a wide set box. It's aM-A, it's a Y set box. It's a Y set box. It's a Y set box. It's a Y set box. It's a Y set box. It's a Y set box.

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It's a Y set box. it's a mind-fuck. It is, it's very weird. In school, do you guys remember when you have to sign that it's your textbook and you would see who it would have it the year before? Oh, yeah. And you would know them, like, you're like, whoa. I would fuck with people, I would put like Nolan Ryan. And then a couple of years later, wait, Nolan Ryan went here? That's what we've just done.

It's just three years before. Yeah. Yeah. All right, one time I just put your mom. Ooh. Nice. Just owned everybody that had the title later. Got him.

All right, Jake finishes off. Yeah, so my hotel room last weekend, it wreaked a weed. Oh, no. Oh, that's so bad. It's called the cops. No, I went back downstairs and got a new room. That's like, wait, wait, you did? Yeah.

Would you sell it's really bad? I said, it's a great smell. Not to live in. Nah, I kind of like it. Was it your room specifically or like the whole way? No, the room. Is, I kind of like was that your room specifically like the No, the room is there a list of previous tenants of that room and Hank had just checked out Anchoring for a lot of the last week the front door January did the

Consiers are like you're a loser. They're probably thinking I don't care. I like to smell a weed. I mean, it's better than cigarettes cigarettes might be my least thing I would smell of all time. I mean, it's better than cigarettes. Sigarettes might be my least favorite. No, cigarettes are a smell of all time. I'd have your back if you moved cigarettes, but weed is like, come and get like a contact shot. Yeah, like if you invited us to the Sigs Inside Bar and I just, I couldn't do it. Yeah, Max and I had a great time.

Yeah. Probably smoked like 40 cigarettes that night. Yeah, I would die. Charm on. But it's only because we're inside. Like we have to celebrate that. Yeah, you got to soak. And your lungs regenerate. Like we're not gonna like we have to celebrate that. And you got a soap. And your lungs regenerate, like we're not going to smoke out.

That is the most. We'll just hold there, cleans it out. I smoke cigarettes to quit vaping and it actually worked. It's a great way to quit, like a jewel. Yeah. I smoke analog cigarettes. Okay. What do you think are the best smoke smells?

I would put pipes as number one. Pipe number one. We had a pipe phase. I had a pipe phase in college. We were smoking pipes as number one. Pipe number one. We had a pipe phase. I had a pipe phase in college. We were smoking pipes in my apartment. That smelled bad. I would say pipes one, weed two, six, three cigars. Cigars are terrible.

Don't those jewel pens have like cotton candy? Well, yeah, but that smoke doesn't linger. It dissipates. Yeah, it's like vape. Not anymore, actually. Cigars are really bad. Thanks to Obama. They banned all the flavors. Jewel that fuck. Yeah, it's like vape. Not anymore, actually. The cars are really bad. Thanks to Obama, they banaled the flavors. Yeah.

Great job, Barack. I have a chocolate factory right outside my apartment. I'm sure. Yeah, it smells so good. Meams. I told me, he's dropping me off the other day. And he was like, what do you mean? I'm like, literally, they're just making chocolate.

If you put your window down, you can smell it. Yeah. Talking about it every day, since. Yeah, it's like, you can smell like far away too sometimes like in the summer. Max did I have anything to do with why you chose that apartment? I mean it that's the biggest difference from you like that was the biggest difference I realized from New York to here was that like when I walked outside of my apartment in New York it was shit. Yeah. Yeah. like, I was like, I literally really want to. Yeah. It'd be funny if everybody maxes a part,

but we're, uh, if they're big boys, they'll, they'll have to listen. No, Max are lifting. Yeah. We're crushing it. I just said big, I said, we're like powerful. We're on week three of our lifting regimen.

We're walking in Max lifted today. Yeah. I lifted. I saw, I saw you, I saw you were taking weight off, though, when Max was done. You guys are strong. Oh, okay. I don't, I don't I don't judge Hank we we lifted before he went down to Texas. Yeah, we did get a big pump in for sure Jim all right 840

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