Pardon My Take - Joey Harrington, MNF Recap, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: December 15, 2021

Monday Night Football thriller and the Rams may be back. Is Kyler Murray too short? Maybe sometimes(00:02:56-00:19:14). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including some F1 talk(00:19:14-00:44:47). We then welcome on Joey Harrington and talk to him about his career at Oregon and with the Lions, why some quarterbacks fail, Nick Saban as an NFL Coach and tons more(00:44:47-01:34:23). We finish up with guys on chicks(01:34:23-01:47:47).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Wednesday, December 15th and the Los Angeles Rams are back. No longer. Frauds. They got their big win. Matt Stafford gets a big win against a good team on Monday night football. He was throwing dimes. Aaron Donald was incredible and I don't want to say anything that will hurt anyone's feelings. But Kyler Murray does have interceptions where he's too short.

Well he looks shorter in the red. I think when he's wearing the all red strip that they've got that takes away at least like six to eight inches. His head looks bigger with the white helmet. He actually does look like that meme. I don't know if it was Barstool Gooch that actually came up with that Photoshop originally but the tiny Kyler Murray where he looks like so cute. He looks like a cute little baby from Super Smash Brothers.

He actually looks like that when he's wearing the red uniform at home. The Cardinals really just have a home problem. Yes they do. They're really good on the road. They're three and three at home and I know a lot of people are upset and annoyed at the yelling guy that they had down in Phoenix that was just screaming at the top of his lungs. I like that guy.

That guy was the only guy that was bringing the fucking noise. That's the guy that should be celebrated. I actually think that the fact that we could hear that guy yelling so loudly that ties into their home field advantage problem because everybody should be yelling as loud as that guy. Or he's just sitting next to a microphone which it sounds like he was actually eating the microphone at time. We shouldn't be able to pick out that one dude yelling.

You need to have louder fans at home. I'm putting this loss on the entire city of Arizona. It was, I mean Kyler Murray didn't play well. They just made mistakes. Those two interceptions were you can't have an interception on the five yard line and the interception where Leonard Floyd, that was the one where you're saying, listen Kyler Murray is really, really good. There's no doubt that he is a franchise quarterback.

But there are plays where you wish he was a few inches taller. I think that's totally fair to say. I wish he was a little bit taller in that one instance where he was trying to throw it over Leonard Floyd. It's not even that he couldn't see over Leonard Floyd. It's like he didn't understand that Leonard Floyd could easily jump up and catch that because Leonard Floyd's that much taller. I'll give you a counter example though Big Cat.

I think that there was one play. I think it might have even been the last play of the game, but there were some other plays that he mixes in every, I'm aware, but on that last play, he almost got sacked first and he's able to duck under sacks more easily because he's five, 10 or five, nine or whatever. It does happen a few times a game where somebody will come in and they don't know. It's very hard for a defensive lineman to hit Kyler Murray in a way that's legal by Roger Goodell's new rules of the game. Yeah, he's slippery and he's, he's so fast and he makes so many awesome plays is that

shoulder level for him. So it's tough sometimes. He's able to duck underneath a lot of these sacks. He ended up getting really just falling down on his own on that last play and got the sack at the end of the game, but I think sometimes his height works to his advantage in a weird way. Yeah. Yeah, I would take that.

I just, that letter Floyd picked. That was a short. What are you doing? What are you doing? Yes. He can clearly catch that. Also, I like the fact that Kyler Murray's a little shorter because it makes James Conner look like the largest running back of all time.

Like he's, I had to go look up his height because I was like, is James Conner 6-5? He's only 6-1, but he looks so tall because he runs in an upright position and also he's standing next to Kyler Murray. The big story though from this game, obviously everyone knows Aaron Donnell is incredible. He completely wrecked that game multiple times. They should count by the way, Blayton Holds should count as sacks for the defensive lineman. Yeah. There was a couple of times where it was, the guy had to wrestle Aaron Donnell to the ground.

That was the only way that he wasn't going to give up a sack. But the big story of the game for me at least was Matt Stafford playing, lights out, making huge throws time and time again. And we all know the Matt Stafford stat were against good teams. He has not performed well in his career. That's a lot of Lions. But that was a big, big game for Matt Stafford when the questions were starting to be asked again.

I think that, I think Detroit fans are probably rooting for Matt Stafford, right? I'd actually like to hear from Detroit Lions fans. Are you getting, are you getting like vicarious pleasure out of watching Matt Stafford actually win games for a change? No. Do you want him to get a Super Bowl or are you kind of like bitter like, yeah, you broke up with your girlfriend, but then she like had a major, major upgrade and now she just married a billionaire?

I think they're absolutely rooting for him because he left the city on good terms. You could see how much he meant, Detroit meant to him. I think he's still doing a lot of charity work there. Like that was one of those, hey, maybe it's just good for both of us to walk away from this. Yeah. Fly away free bird. Right.

I'm rooting for you. I think so too. I think that Lions fans, that's kind of the one thing that they can have sometimes is occasionally if your best players don't retire first, when they go somewhere else you can root for them. Yeah. Now a guy like, when they do the rena player, like when Kyle Van Noy comes from the Patriots, they do that a lot.

They just like borrow players from the Patriots, give them money and then the Patriots players go back to New England and win. I don't think they like those guys, but a guy like Matt Stafford, I think it's tough not to root for him. And when he was connecting deep, that one pass that he had to the guy's son, to Van Jefferson. Van Jefferson. That was a sick pass.

He was sort of dying. His arm looks way better than it did like three weeks ago when everybody was saying that he was hurt. Yeah. And it was a big, like that was a big moment, a big game that has a lot to do with seeding and winning the NFC West. And he stepped up and he was like, that was one of those games. Darren Donald is the best player on the field.

I think we can all agree on that just because of how much he just wrecked shit. But Matt Stafford was the best offensive player on the field and he was, you know, Cooper Cup was awesome. Like Odell's getting in the mix. I just, I walked away from that game being like, okay, Matt Stafford. That's the hall of fame Matt Stafford that I hope gets there so I can pull up a tweet from five years ago saying you were going to be in the hall of fame. And the other big takeaways that Brian Grease is still, still hoping for a field goal.

Yes. At the end of the game. Yes. He really wanted that. He really wanted to hit with the field goal. He did. He really wanted that field goal on the, even the drive before they kicked a field goal. He wanted the field goal then.

He was getting greedy with his field goal requests. Yeah. It was right though. He was right. He was right. They should kick field goals. I mean, Slater's a very good, wait, what's Prater? Prater's a very good field goal kicker and they should have kicked it earlier and they

should have kicked it on the drive before. Yeah. And also more big news. We got another onside kick recovery by the team that did not win. That was the team that Billy was alluding to when he said that three teams recovered an onside kick and did not win. He was just seeing into the future. Yeah.

Well, no, the Lions also, remember? It was the Giants, not the Lions. Oh, it's the Giants. Yeah. For the record. So there were four. Now it's four. Yeah, now it's four.

Now it's four. He, I think they said Prater's like four for 15 or something, which feels really good. Yeah. I think he was three for 12 going into, he might even be like four for 13 or 14. It's crazy. Crazy. I love that little dribbler up the middle. Yes.

I love that onside kick. Because no one really wants to touch it and they're all scared. And also the kicker's a nerd, so they don't want to hang out around them and they're like, is it against like, you know, the respect of the game for a kicker to not just blast the ball at the other side? Oh, off someone's face. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know why they don't do that. Like you, you think you'd get a good ricochet back. You could do it. Yeah. I mean, if you could aim it directly at one guy's helmet, I don't know why they don't do that. Well, but if you kick it as hard as you can, they're not going to catch it. You're probably going to miss them.

And then if you miss them, it's just going to go like 50 yards or out about this. They should do that though, not maybe in that moment when you actually, when you absolutely need the recovery. But like in the middle of the second quarter, you score a touchdown, just try to, like worst case it bounces off them. And I don't know, they probably end up in like around midfield, but it could also be a squib kick that goes all the way down or you blast them in the face and recover. So yeah, let's think about this because in soccer, a penalty kick is 12 yards away, right?

And you think that they, if they were trying to hit the goalie on every kick, they could probably do it. So the kick on a kickoff is 10 yards away. So you could probably come pretty close. But remember too, there's more goalies and a lot of the goalies in this, in this analogy are kind of leaning back, going backwards. But I don't think that you could aim for a goalie, miss the goalie and have it hit enough because the goalies are too far apart.

Yeah. They're not like close enough. You just blast it. This is the exact strategy in Pop Warner because no one can catch the ball like that. They just have the kick or just blast at some poor kid with no hands. It would just be funny to watch. I still think a drop kick on kickoffs is by far the easiest way to recover. You can just sky that up in the air, run 10 yards, easy catch.

Can't you fair catch it though? I'm not aware. This is like the Harbaugh thing, right? This is your old. Yeah. Can you fair catch? You can fair catch any. Oh yeah.

Harbaugh tried doing it. Yeah. I think it worked actually. You brought this up a lot. I remember. Yeah, it's a coach. And Harbaugh tried doing it and it worked. A drop kick on side kick?

You can fair catch it. On a drop kick? I know you can't on a kickoff. You can fair catch it, but if you drop it, then they can pick it up. Well, yeah, of course. Yeah. Onside kick, Harbaugh. I'm looking it up right now because I want to see this.

I can't. You could also. NFL bans Raven's crazy kickoff drop kick after watching Baltimore use it just one time. They banned it? Yeah. Fucking good though. So that's why it never happens. So I broke the NS off.

I was just in Tucker, uh, yeah, did the drop kick and the chiefs just had no idea what to. Yeah. He could have forked fair caught it. Yeah. But they didn't know what to do. Yeah. Right.

Right. So, um, oh no, the Ravens didn't even recover the onside kick. Oh, well, it was cool. That was cool until we, I looked it up. My bad. Yeah. I kind of ruined that. It's banned and it didn't work.

Yeah. But it's kind of bad ass that it's banned now. It's too hot for TV. That's true. That's true. Kickers going wild, baby. That took a real turn right there. You brought up a good point earlier when you were saying that if, if a player gets a blatant

hold, a defensive player that they should count that as a sack, stats, absolutely they should. I also think that, and you'll like this one too, big cat, if Aaron Rodgers sees a flag on the field for an encroachment and then he throws like a 60 yard bomb that he weren't thrown anyways, that shouldn't count as a touchdown for his career stats. Yes. Yes. Because it was cheating.

It was cheating. And he was taking, it was a play that he, he was taking advantage of a loophole in the rules. There was at least one, maybe two plays last night where Aaron Donald was so unblockable, the offensive lineman just gave up and, and like bear hugged him. So like those type of plays. And I think it was actually greasy. You pointed out, he's like, that's just as good as a sack.

Obviously you replay the down. So it's not just as good as a sack, but you do lose the 10, 10 yards. That's probably the next gen in terms of analytics. If a company can like figure out, pro football focus is probably working on it right now in between their mock draft grades that they're putting out now. They're probably figuring out a way that they can say, okay, this lineman actually, you know, it's more, you know, big cat, you know, it's even more valuable than quarterback pressures is drawing holds, holds or a receiver being able to get interfered with.

That's the most valuable trade of all. Yes. I also, so this is something different than Monday night football. We never even talked about the fact that Stefan Diggs on Sunday looked to the ref to try to get a flag thrown and just like basically gave up on the play. Twice. I'm still mad about that. I think we did bring it up because we're mad about it, but yeah, he should not have

done that. And then now I saw a lot of people from Bill's mafia tweeting a screenshots of Stefan Diggs getting held later on in the game. That happened too. Yes. The refs missed the pass interference in the end zone. Of course they did. But yeah, it's probably a good idea to try to make a catch as the plays going on instead

of looking for a flag. Right. And also it was a fade and I just don't like, you should get, you shouldn't even get pass interference calls on fades because it's such a dumb play call. Yeah. I think that the refs are less likely to throw a flag if you give up on a route and start complaining to them while the ball is still in the air. Absolutely.

Absolutely. No one likes to be shown up. It's, it's the, you know, it's James Harden looking for a foul without, you know, going through like actually playing through contact. I think James Harden plays through contact, but James Harden, but he would look. There's guys, Miratich, Nikola Miratich used to always do that where he would basically stop playing looking for a foul and the ref be like, nope, because you're being a bitch. I'm not going to call this foul.

I could also see James Harden looking for a shooting foul to get called, but he never actually attempts the shot. Yeah. He's like about to be on his way up. He gets hit instead of attempting the shot. He just looks at the ref like that was a shooting foul. Yes. Yes.

All right. Any other things for Monday football? I mean, we're, I was looking at this upcoming weekend and it's, it's coming down to it. Like all these games, a lot of these games have some big time. The chiefs chargers game on Thursday night has huge, huge significance. Mm hmm. Maybe, maybe back in the, if the, you actually do have a bet on this game. I do.

Because if the chargers win this game, they're most likely going to win the NFC West. Yeah. No, I have, all my money right now is tied up in futures big cat. That's why I can't bet. Not because I lost all my money gambling. I've just got so many futures that I'm waiting, it's, it's, I'm good for it, you know, like I'm sure James Winston will win comeback player of the year this year and I'll be a rich man when that happens.

But I, I think I'm going to bet on the chiefs. I haven't made my official decision on which team I'm going to bet on without actually betting on, but I think it's going to be the chiefs just because I think Slater is such a big loss and COVID is about to just, and Chris Jones though, on the other side, not to poke the bear on COVID, but sounds like you're about to poke the bear on the COVID. I'm not going to poke the bear on COVID. But yeah, COVID is back and it's a problem. It's back.

Although very big issue. Floreo with a 180. What? That I didn't see coming at all. Do tell. Mike Floreo, because I started to get, here's how I know that Floreo has really dropped a fucking bomb on his little TV show that he does on the cock is I start to get tagged in tweets in the morning from old people that live in Ohio that think that I'm Mike

Floreo and they're mad at me for something. So today I started to get some tweets that were like, thanks for coming around, Mike. We love you. We appreciate you. And I was like, what's going on here? Turns out that Floreo has come 180 degrees. Now he has to take that. If a player in the NFL tests positive and they are asymptomatic, they should still practice

and play. Wow. Way to go, Mike. Because he said that there's no evidence of on field transmission of COVID, which if true, that's that makes sense then, right? Yeah. If people aren't passing it to each other, but then you have to think like, what about the other people in the facilities?

There's other stuff that hurts my brain that when all the details come into play, but I didn't see Mike making that move. Yeah. That is a weird one. He's late in the game. Yeah. Like the time was about to expire and he just threw that up. I didn't see that coming.

How awesome would it be if Floreo went like full clay Travis? It would be great just so he'll turn on everyone's face. Mike, you can do it. Yeah. It's going to be right around with playoffs coming too. I don't know. They're going to probably have to update their policy. It's going to be bad.

Do you see that on week 18? They're flexing two games a Saturday night with playoff implications. I did. I did. So that might be, that'd be cool if it was, so it's both AFC North or it's going to be like, right? No, it's not the same time, right? No.

Different times. Yeah. But I think they'll do one AFC North prime time game Saturday, one Sunday, if I had to guess. Oh, so both AFC Norths. I think there might be an NFC West in there. Wait, weekend. Oh yeah.

Cause week 18 is January. They'll do two playoff implication games on Saturday. But I think they'll do, like the AFC North is going to be the vision that it all comes down to. It's going to be decided. Yes. Yes. It's going to be great.

It's so weird because it's going to be, it's Monday night football, but it's on Saturday. And usually they do Thursday night football Saturday edition. Right. It's going to be all fucked up. Right. It's going to be tough, but more football. It feels like more football. Yeah.

It's actually the exact same amount of football. But they spread it around. But it's not. Right. It's like loaded nachos that are sky high or maybe a big plate of them that you can see all the chips. Yeah. What I like about that is I think I'm more football just like days that I have football

on. Right. Exactly. You count the days. So this is a more day of football. Yes. Yes. And we have bowls coming up, which will be great.

Okay. Let's do hot seat cool throne. And then we will get to Joey Harrington. Talk to him. Great interview with Joey Harrington. Very excited for people to listen to it. Hank. The happiest boy that ever did live, Henry Lockwood, hot seat cool throne.

Thank you, big cat. You're in such a good mood. I'm always in a great mood. And I just want to, you know, I know there's a lot of people going through a lot of things. I might have a little motivation. So just think big, trust yourself, make it happen. We're getting there. Make your bed.

Make. Yeah. My hot seat is the ACC. Oh. The Atlantic Coast Conference. The Premier Conference. You know, our entire, our entire livelihood while they're a joke across this year. Yeah.

Cross country. Dying football this year. In basketball. Thank God for Duke because they're the only team that's even decent in the ACC. Let's see if Duke can make it sober to March. They've lost six by games. Yeah. Six.

Which would you like to explain what a by game is? Well, it's the epitome of brutality. Yes. It is. It's when a big school pays a little school to play them. I don't, I never fully understood that. It's always like a tweet where it's like, it's supposed to be for your, this team paid $405,000 in loss.

Yeah. Because they're doing it to pump up their schedule. Yeah. And so, so a team like Virginia Tech hypothetically would pay James Madison to come down to Blacksburg and ideally beat them instead of losing 21 to 17. But then they, they pay the money because that's a notch in their record book, which boosts them up at the end of the year for the rankings. And they get to sell out a game.

Which doesn't even really work the same way it used to because it actually, it's antiquated because it used to be, you know, there was back in the day when it was essentially if you get to 20 wins, you're in the tournament and it didn't really matter who the wins were. Now there's analytics and everyone's got the rankings and net rankings and quad one wins and everything. So these by games, you could make the argument for practice purpose like, hey, you get the guys an extra game where you get some run and try out some new things. But it does, Jake, you can be like, would you back me up like it only can hurt you at

this point. It can only hurt you. It doesn't help you with a resume. Right. At all. And the mid majors that can help them too. Right. Because we're seeing mid majors sometimes getting out large rarely, but.

But it used to be that you would just basically like look at the, look at the right, the final standings. Like if you have 20 wins, you're pretty much in. Yeah. Now you feel a loss that stands out. Right. You can be fucked. And the next three to South Carolina state, app state or Cleveland state would be real

shame. Do you have to schedule? Jake, do you have to schedule the same amount of games each school? It's like, here's a minimum. No, because some play in the early season tournaments like Wisconsin played three games in three days. So. Although those are guaranteed games, but yeah, those can change.

Is there a window though? Like what's, what's to stop a school from just doing? We're going to play like three, I think there's a max number of years and then there's a minute of math. And obviously the conference schedule is set right and some conferences as more like I know the big East is playing, I guess some of them are playing 20 some play 18. So it depends. Either way by games.

Yeah. Hot seat for sure. I think it's usually just like an athletic director having a friend who's an athletic director at another school. Hey, do you want this check? Yeah. All right. We're still friends.

Yeah. And to not use it on your kids. You want to check and to not have to actually like buy new uniforms and stuff. Awesome. I got this money. Take it. Here you go. We should, I wonder if we could figure out a way legally to like make us buy game possible

because there is like incarnate world word and shit like IGN or whatever. No. Yeah. Like what if Duke could, if we're like, hey, Duke for $300,000 you can schedule a part of my take and beat the fuck out of it. Yeah. Answer your call. We hire.

Yeah. Bishop Thickemore. Why? Because I would buy beer for Paolo. Disgusting slander. Paolo. Put against a. What's his name?

Paolo. He's so drunk that he gets cramps and he can't compete anymore. Either way, it's bad for the ACC. I think coming off the fact that they were joking football this year too, just, it's tough. It's tough if you're, you know. Bad days for the Atlantic Coast Conference. A power conference once, no longer.

For a power conference. Yeah. Ever since they decided to move out of Greensboro, that's when it all went south. My cool throne is Boston Esports, Robert Kraft bought a Call of Duty team. So they're my new, they're my new Esports team. And I'm sure they're going to be excellent. Because everything. I've been following.

So I've actually been following like the Call of Duty League since the pandemic. We got into it and met some of their players and something falling along. They basically didn't have a 12 team. It was a disaster. The leagues in total shambles. They're like, everyone says that buying these roster spots is a waste of money. All these things. And I would have agreed with them until Robert Kraft bought the 12 spot and now it's genius

investment. I'm all the way in. Boston Esports to the moon. Wait, do you have to be in Boston to play for the team? No. So the Call of Duty League. They live in LA. They tried to franchise it.

They did. They also got Fox because they literally started the league like in January, then COVID happened. But they tried to do the franchise model where they do different cities. But then during COVID, everyone just moved to Texas because that's where the best internet is. So it's like. Really? Is that true?

Apparently. Yeah. There's a taxes fiber. No, it's where. Oh. Although, although, like if you're a lot of video game people move to Texas. They do have Google fiber in Austin. Something like that.

Yeah. But yeah. So the Call of Duty League is a shit show. Not anymore though, because Robert Kraft is involved in Boston Esports to the moon. My other cool throne is the under in the West Ham Arsenal game. Oh, good pick. Thank you. That's Hank.

Hank's a soccer sharp. That's tomorrow though. Today. Today. Wednesday. Are you sure? Yeah. Oh, what time is the game?

3.30, I believe. I think it's Wednesday. Hmm. Oh, today you mean Wednesday? Yeah. Yeah. It's not happening right now. No, I would not give a pick for.

Got it. Got it. You've been doing a lot of research on soccer games. Yeah. I'm just a big footy fan. You guys know me over the years. Huge footy guy. Been on a heater the last couple of days.

So I'm just going to try and keep it going. Hank Ladwood. Yeah. Take that under. Thanks for the lock, Hank. You're welcome. Appreciate it. That's what I do for you guys.

Yeah. Because I care. Yeah, you do. All right. PFT, your hot seat cool throne. My hot seat is Manners. I'm putting Manners on the hot seat. There was an ugly article that came out in the Washington Post earlier today about falling

out between Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen, former president of the Washington football team. And this is maybe the most hilarious on the nose Dan Snyder anecdote that I've ever heard. So they're engaged in like a lawsuit going back and forth on a bunch of stuff. And it said that Snyder's grievances with Allen range from conspiratorial to petty. So when Snyder hired Ron Rivera, Bruce Allen sent Ron Rivera a text saying congratulations, Ron. I'm very proud of you. Very happy for you.

This is great. Dan Snyder found out that Bruce Allen congratulated Ron Rivera and got pissed off that Bruce Allen didn't send a text to Dan Snyder congratulating him on hiring Ron Rivera at the same time. So then they're going back and forth with all these discussions and all these different stipulations for the lawsuit. And Snyder put in writing in a letter to Bruce Allen, I understand that Mr. Allen has agreed to send a text message to Mr. Snyder stating congrats on the hire as a condition for them settling their lawsuit with each other.

He still wanted Bruce Allen to text him saying congratulations on hiring Ron Rivera and I agree with him. Yeah. I think it's a disgrace. It's indicative of why Bruce Allen is probably fired that he's the type of person that doesn't have the morals to congratulate somebody on making a good hire of another person. Apparently Bruce Allen has not agreed to that stipulation. Well Dan Snyder didn't hire him.

Dan Snyder hired Ron Rivera. Did he though? Yeah. Oh his wife takes his wife handles day to day operations of the team. Who did Bruce Allen congratulate? Bruce Allen congratulated Ron Rivera on getting hired. Yeah. I like to say like if you're a rich dude and you get in all these legal trappings and you're

just dragging shit through court why not be as petty as possible. Yeah I love it. I actually I think that Dan Snyder is right. He deserves to be congratulated for getting something right from time to time. Yeah. So Dan Snyder. You know what? I'll be the bigger man than Bruce Allen.

I've probably done worse shit to you than Bruce Allen's ever done said worse things at least. Congratulations on hiring Ron Rivera. I'm very proud of you. I'm going to double that. Congratulations Dan Snyder on hiring Ron Rivera. Thank you on a match. That's an incredible hire.

All thumbs up the message. Okay thank you. Thank you. Congrats Dan Snyder. Thank you. Congrats. That counts. My cool throne is making material mistakes.

UEFA was doing their champion's league draw. Did you see that? Yeah. They're doing their champions league draw and they fucked up the pools. The ping pong. This is why you just need one ping pong ball machine and not like six of them that you're drawing from. They fucked up the draw.

Screwed over. Who they screwed over. Like Real Madrid. Yeah. There's a couple teams that everyone's crying foul. So they said like Ari Abraham when he did the material change thing UEFA's their verbiage was we have made a material mistake in our draw so we're going to redo the entire thing. Do it all over again.

Love it. Good job. Good job. Anything that's associated with soccer you can always count on just it being insanely rigged. Incorrupt. Yeah. Yeah.

So the hot seat is Ray Allen. Steph Curry is going to by the time you're listening to this Steph Curry has already broken the record three point record. He's doing it. Madison Square Garden tonight. I'm actually going to go to the game. I'm excited for it. What are you going to say Hank?

You don't know that. Okay. You're right. Bluff. No. No. No. No.

No. No. No. No. No. No. No. He has to...

Hanky Hater is back. I'm just trying to... Two threes tonight. Yeah. But you're right, Hank. So no, technically I am... You're right. Wait, are you sitting in the nosebleeds?

I'm not. I'm going to send a picture. No, I won't even send a picture cuz I don't want to be shamed. That sounds awesome. Yeah. Are you sitting higher or lower than Jake in the lead? You know that you know that you can't tweet a picture. I tweeted a picture from Army Navy and everyone's like these seats suck.

I was in a box. Like what? Say, oh wow. don't need a brag if you're on the floor yeah or yeah no way yeah no way no when um I mean a little fix going what you're a little mecca fix going this is my second game yes that I've gone to you have a connect that's a fix no just going to the game so Hank and I are well I didn't know if it was like you know that you had such a good experience at the Bulls game that you're like no I

gotta get back I gotta get back in there my move to New York and I hadn't hadn't seen yet so we're like let's go to a game you know just guy stuff yeah is that okay with you I'm just curious what it's great okay yeah also I'll send them I'll send you a picture yeah I want to roast are you cool the one that are you okay with it no actually no I'm being I'm wrong no I'm wrong I wanted to go see Steph Curry possibly break a record tonight I'm feeling like I'm getting some pushback maybe should I cancel it seems like you have a fix for that's not a negative thing at all I won't go it does seem like Hank is

jealous that you are going to potentially witness history you want to come no I'm not saying that I I was just trying to like further conversation it's like oh big I even go in the mecca a lot it's a fact twice in how many weeks three that's how many weeks have you basically like Lee yeah basically spike but that's not like a negative thing that's just like that's like oh like fun little fun little fact and maybe Ray Allen and technically by the letter of the law he might not get it he might not get it now I'm rooting for him to not get I hope he doesn't rooting for him to not get it that would be very

funny in the first I would get hurt I would get paralyzed what if the first quarter never breaks record what if he just what if he doesn't make a single three what if he takes like 10 of them what is the worst night of his life no what if he actually gets hurt in its career altering injury never gets back out there but do you think they do do you think the NBA would allow him to do like a Bernie Mac mr. 3000 where he like RIP yeah they have Steph Curry come out on a wheelchair to shoot one last three to tie the record he's got like a little like a device on his wheelchair that like shoots it up one of those

arms pneumatic arms what time are you posting this cuz this good like what it what happens if he does so it wouldn't be injury it wouldn't be funny but it would be hilarious it would be very very funny yes hilariously funny what are you looking up Jake how many threes in need to I think he's one to tie to just to the break November 21st he went one of six he's made no October 19th opening night two for eight at the Lakers every other game at least three so he so he had one game where he went hit one and one game I'll be tying it one game right here so okay Steve Kerr also said that it seems like Steph's been

pressing I like he knows that the record is here so he's been thinking about a lot I have to imagine that he'll be doubly thinking about it at the Mecca right with me in attendance with big cat hoping for him to break his leg wait it just his leg no no his neck and his leg you can come back from a leg yeah neck and leg what about a Doug like what's his name Tom Segura yeah what about Tom Segura soul everything blows up his legs his arms his neck yeah everything but he survives I'm hoping for that for Hank that'd be fun all right my cool throne is f1 drama we didn't talk about it put the final race on

Sunday was incredible drive to survive is going to be even better I don't know if you guys watch this Max one Red Bull Christian Horner a part of this podcast he's been on want to get him on again but it was similar to the UEFA ping-pong ball draw this was just like completely ridiculous and they change rules mid-race and everyone's upset but I love the drama yeah I observe this story through the lens of many memes yeah that's how I prefer to get my f1 news to figure out what happened just f1 fans are very good at me they're very good at memes so just send me all the memes as recaps and I think I I'm gonna

piece it together there's based on what I saw on my timeline there was a wreck and right before the caution came out the guy Verstoppen overtook the other guy no that was after so after the wreck they let when the when the safety car was out I'm probably fucking this up too but I don't care because when have we ever cared about being right about anything on this show there was a safety car out and they let there was five cars that were beat would that were lapped right that were way behind they were in between Hamilton and Verstoppen and they let Verstoppen basically cut in front of all those so then to get closer to get

closer so then the last lap they had a race for it but Verstoppen was on fresher tires so he easily beat Hamilton on the last lap got it and there's also controversy in the first lap because Verstoppen drove like tried to cut off Hamilton and Hamilton basically hit the rainbow road and like went through the track so hard to land on that thing yeah so hard but either way I just I'm excited to watch Drive to Survive and fully understand it maybe that's what we'll do we'll do a recap of Sundays f1 drama as soon as we watch this season of Drives to Survive and fully understand I mean it's hard to not be woke on the

fact that they would do something like this because it's Christian Horner against it's Toto right yeah Toto and so like this entire controversy was just invented to get more viewers on Drive to Survive and they and the safety guy had an all-time like similar to Dan Snyder just like I'm the I'm the boss here Toto was complaining and he just like said back on the radio which by the way we need to get this in in all American sports the fact that you can listen to these guys bitch and complain in real time is so awesome okay but he just replied to Toto he's like that's it's moto racing he's like that's what

it is it's moto race it's like if you could hear the offensive and defense coordinators live on the headsets during a football game it's like it was just all you would hear is just some spitting dip I was gonna say you hear Matt Nagy on fourth and inches down 11 in a season that doesn't matter anymore just breathing too heavily into the his headset yeah Freddie Kitchens just run the draw run the draw that that quote by the way I just have to throw it out there when they asked Matt Nagy about the fourth and inches punt he said you wish you would have went for it that's the part where you look back as a coach

you go damn that would have been a time to do that yeah is your only the royal we you would have gone for it yeah all right your hot seat cool throne Billy my hot seat is politics in general oh so two politicians down in Brazil put all other politics to shame after after fighting online calling each other scoundrels and other words and Brazilian Portuguese actually they had a three round MMA fight which was sick just to like obviously out of shape politicians just actually duking it out and the crowd was going nuts I really wish I kind of wish that would happen more in the United States and other places yes

that'd be sick and then wait what were you saying I just I what's the appeal there politicians fighting each other just to out of no I'm kidding I was making a joke just a little joke hey cat um rough rowdy shout out it sounds electric I should try to get politicians to fight rough and rowdy I want to see like local officials or at least city officials at least Don Trump Jr. and Hunter Biden fighting I probably just end up partying together yeah banging the same whore um shout out hard factor for that because that's where you saw it mmm that's where you saw the story yes subscribe to hard factor yes you saw

that story I saw it in the world I saw it there I assume you saw it there yes okay we're working on wait Billy you were about to not credit hard factor no actually imagine the world I'm actually crying I'm actually crying the blogger reeks okay cuz he also blogged it okay that's where I saw it so I wanted to give them credit mad crescent my cool throne is yes 4.0 let's go huge yeah he and he also wants a Jordan NIL deal after posting a 4.0 for some reason those are connected yeah the golfer okay he's a good student athlete he should get it he should get an academic NIL deal like getting a 4.0 that's sick that's way more

impressive than the yeah yes in my other cool throne is smelling salts because Matt Prater ripped the smelling salt before kicking that field goal at the end of the game was very sick yes was very funny I love it when kickers do that that's really the only workout you should be allowed to do as a kicker I enough of these curls for the girls you should be allowed to squat to you should be allowed to squat and then rip salts and that's it Jake stop me if you've heard this before my hotseats urban Meyer oh so the latest chapter to this is he was asked on one of his defensive players Andre Cisco he said he's playing a

little bit more I believe I don't have his numbers in front of me did not step on the field you know that's just that's loser talk that's worry about that that's details he's got guys that worry about his details from and shout out to memes for the urban Meyer video the urban Meyer hitler video is amazing so good yeah perfectly done I was telling memes earlier today that that's that's one of those memes that was real hot in the streets back in like 2010 2011 and then it totally fizzled out I don't think he even knew what it was yeah yes and we need to I think we should bring it back sparingly yeah like a few times a season

the icing on the cake was when they cut to the woman crying in that video and it was alluding that it was Trevor Lawrence spoiler very very the reaction to us it's kind of like Billy at the at the urinal people are like isn't comparing urban Meyer Hitler a little too far no like that wasn't like it was every single video we did it for everything yes every single person was Hitler for an entire year on the internet mm-hmm it's like I'm trying to think what what's story right now but people would people would be like the administrators at JR Smith's college

when they find out he gets a 4.0 that's Hitler being like what do you mean he got a 4.0 or it would use it for everything the AD of a team that just lost to buy games yes I got the final score exactly everyone everyone would get that constantly okay my cool throne is the Georgia Southern basketball finds out that Hank bet against his team again on Sunday yeah so the George Hank when he just wakes up what do you mean I'm up what do you mean I have work everyone out everyone out except except for Big Cat and PFT so I can bet against their favorite now I've been working day in my life

sure Jake it's okay the Georgia Southern women's basketball teams on my cool throne they beat a school named Carver College 133 to 15 Carver College went scoreless in the second quarter it was 60 to 5 a half it was 99 and 9 at the end of the third quarter and they won 133 to 15 you got the sportsmanship people on Twitter oh yeah they're the worst yeah so you know this situation like in bat in football you can kneel it in basketball what are you gonna do not shoot the basketball well there's a shot clock I'm guessing that we just shot clock they probably didn't have to shoot as many times as they did

also apparently they pressed well that would be part of it but I I mean if you don't like it stop it yeah right question Jake why why do women's basketball teams play quarters and men's it changes a few years ago I don't know the exact reason but more timeouts more more probably commercials they don't do a one-on-one ooh Ronald Reagan finding out why his wife is trending that's a good one definitely be that would definitely be used mm-hmm throat goat how good do you think Nancy Reagan's head was it was great I wish I find that out really I actually I think that there's a chance for you don't know by

the way the Nancy Reagan was trending this weekend because someone compared Nancy Reagan and Madonna being like who would you rather be when you're 60 like Madonna half-clothed or Nancy Reagan it's a picture of her with her whole family and then it got trending that Nancy Reagan was the greatest blowjob queen of all time in Hollywood back in the day it was a quote from some girls autobiography from some women's autobiography where she said Nancy Reagan sucked off everyone in the MGM lot for like 20 years or whatever yeah what is it there's a chance though that this girl is just super jealous of Nancy

something that like you a girl head game just like oh she's such a slut she sucks everyone off that's why people like her no because the way that like tell me that's run like some high school in that biography the way it was written was she got jobs because I didn't because she sucked everyone off it was like she's really good it was it was like paying homage to her like yeah being like oh yeah she just gets the jobs because she sucks everyone off definitely is like petty one-on-one yeah kid so kitty Kelly gets like all these salacious stories in her biography that's kind of what she's known for and if if true I think

it's great for I think that the first lady our first dude if there's a woman president should be really good at giving oral sex really good yes all the and Nancy Reagan should have wanted to stick around maybe to just be like full time first lady yeah whoever the throat goat the current throat goat shout out AJ Teddes she should be vice president get out here dr. Jill Biden yeah yes get her up there but yeah that story was very funny very that was when the internet's good I I I think much like many people were like oh she died no she's been dead for a while Nancy Reagan yeah she actually came back to life in

a way yeah right she heard she lives on forever they say you die when the last person says your name there we go so she's as live as she's ever been was it Helen of Troy the face that could launch a thousand this is the throat that could launch a thousand ships yeah there we go Nancy Reagan shout out go goat for her in her in her own way all right let's get to Joey Harrington before we do that pft you got a quick word yes I want to talk to you about a great friend over at sling TV we love sling TV if you want to watch the Brennan Walker College football experience featuring Brennan Walker there's only one way to do that's

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former Oregon well he is an Oregon legend still it is Joey Harrington thank you for joining us Joey we appreciate that yeah like we were just chatting for a second right before you joined but we we had the throwback moment of Joey Harrington NCAA football cover and how much of a legend you were and you you came up naturally in conversation so we're very very excited to have you on well I mean that was the greatest game not specifically that year but that college football game was the greatest game in the history of video games well maybe Tecmo Super Bowl yeah but it's up there it's up there yes it's up there

coming back in 2023 did you used to play that game while you were in college we used to play the game so those of us like you know cuz I didn't play my first couple years and you know red shirt and behind Akili Smith and you know you're down on the depth chart and all of us freshmen and in the dorms were like okay we got to get high enough on the depth chart so that we could make it on to the video game next year right and then you all of a sudden like once you get it because I think they went like three deep at each position but they never use your name they just use your number yeah so and we'd go in and like switch out

your put yourself into the game and of course you know when you're third on the depth chart you suck and so you know but still it's like dude that's me that's my number I'm on a game but I was always too far down the depth chart to make it up until I actually started playing yeah yeah so it's it's great to have you on I actually think that your story is like it's now going to be a lot brought up a lot more because of the way the NFL has gone and the pressure we put on quarterbacks instantly when they get in and the amount of guys get drafted in the first round but like let's talk about it because obviously people will say

bust I've read a lot of this the the stories you've done afterwards I think you you would admit that it obviously didn't go your way but do you think about it often like man if this had been different or that had been different or is it something you're kind of at peace with I mean I think it's natural to think you know what could have been or in people because people ask you that question but I think what I've come to understand is I love where I'm at right now right and I get to I get I live a mile from my parents a mile from my wife's parents I run a foundation for my you know my main job I get to coach my

kids basketball you know I get to be part of all that right and so I love where I'm at right now that wouldn't have happened if things were different then and sure do I wish that you know I had a 14 year NFL career and you know ended up in the Hall of Fame sure of course you have those thoughts but it's it's bigger than that yeah right yeah it's even you know I'm sitting here recovering from a knee surgery that you know three months without walking and I'm 43 years old and realizing that hopefully I got another 40 years left of life and while that that moment that you're in the NFL it's it's crazy like it is beyond it's not real

life like it's it's it's this world that doesn't exist outside of those 32 teams in these 32 cities and I was lucky enough to have the perspective to realize that there's more than just being an NFL quarterback I'm gonna have 50 years of figuring out what the hell to do so do I look back and say it would have been nice to play better uh yeah of course do I wish that I'd had some situations where you know the coaching staff and I were on the same page and you know you know where I would have simply played better and then things would have turned out differently sure do I wish that you know coaches hadn't walked out on us mid-year and left us a note and said screw it I'm out of course like that I mean

I could go down a laundry list of things that you know would be amazing stories but like I wish they were different but I love where I'm at yeah and and that's a that's a part of who I am and that's a part of what got me here I love that perspective it sounds like you're actually one of the more well-adjusted former athletes that we've spoken with on this show it's incredible like the Detroit Lions as much crap as they get for being you know a chaotic organization they actually give you a good perspective in the long term because it to some extent you're like well you know I could be back in Detroit things could always get worse so I'm doing okay right now when you got drafted there that was right when they went on that run of drafting you know wide receiver after

wide receiver after wide receiver I have to imagine that you didn't have a whole lot of input as you know you were just coming off your rookie season as to what direction the franchise was going but I guess how soon after you started playing did you realize like this is going to be a little bit different than college it's going to be a lot it's going to be more difficult in a lot of ways and it's a business now you know people use that phrase it's a business right it's uh it's a business it's different but until it kicks you in the butt like you don't really like you you don't quite understand it I mean sure there were differences like I walked into the locker room as a as a 23 year old kid and step into the huddle and Ray Brown is my right guard who you know turned 40 that season

and Bill Schrader is my wide receiver and you know like looking around it's like I don't have a whole lot of connection with these guys like I'm coming out of like having pizza and beer on you know on Friday nights and they're and they're taking their kids to soccer practice and dentist appointments and worried about health insurance like it's it's a completely different setup than a college locker but until like you hit that moment where they truly like run you out of town or they say you know thanks but no thanks you know get out of here you know until you're cut until you until you have that that because they can't cut you in in college right they can they can demote you they can bench you you're still part of the team

you're still part of the town but in the NFL they can just say hey thanks it's been fun it's been real see you and not pay another dime and until you have that happen to you which which happens to just about anybody unless you're you know unless you're Tom Brayton I don't know that it truly sinks in that this is a business right it's it's not until you have something affect you and your family and you realize like man I gotta I gotta move like I can't even live here anymore like that is a that's a real that's a big difference from college and so it happens to everybody in the league with the exception of Tom but it's still it's still football right and and that's the deal is what makes it a business is is the football side of it like if you go out and play play

good football and have fun it's still football if you go out and play bad football and you suck then it becomes a business real quick right they should be down I think the the part that fascinates me with guys that get drafted really high and it doesn't work out for many different reasons I I used to think like oh that guy's a bust he sucks now I'm more on the line of every guy has a chance and it's a small window where things have to kind of go your way for a little bit there for it to start to work out otherwise it can go south real fast and you never really get that full chance of like everything around you reading about your time in Detroit it felt like the offensive scheme they didn't want they wanted you to fit their their offensive

scheme not the other way around is that fair to say I think that's fair you know you you've got a you're kind of hitting the nail on the head where so there's three there were every every team carried three quarterbacks when I was playing right 32 teams 100 guys 100 quarterbacks in the league who could make every single throw they could do every single thing physically that you needed to do and the difference between the first guy and the third guy was so minuscule right in Detroit they wanted me to to play in a west coast offense that wasn't my that wasn't what I was good at right and so we're we're sitting there in one of our install meetings like right when I first got there and I'll never forget this like we're going through protections okay I got a I

got a seven man protection both backs you know five men up front released in the tight end and here's how everything works and I and I kind of do a little math here okay great I'm protective they bring it strong what happens if well what happens if they bring a free or a weak safety they bring fit safety off the weak side what happens if I get four off the side can I side adjust can I redirect my protection and the the quarterback coach looked at me and said no you just have to buy time and make a play and I said I got a I got a 18-yard comeback out there how am I supposed to buy time with a free rusher like you know I'm not Steve Young I'm not Mike Vic like that's not what I do right and can I just give him a signal and hey I see it let's adjust he

looked at me in the eye and he said because that's not what Bill Walsh did and I was like but Bill Walsh coached in the 80s like this is this is something different and so could I have played better yeah sure of course I could but that was that type of offense wasn't my strong suit I wasn't I wasn't a quick ball out of my hands you know dink and dunk kind of guy I was best in in no huddle type stuff I was best at the line of scrimmage I was never gonna out run you I was never gonna out throw you you know of the three quarterbacks on our roster in Detroit I didn't have the best arm but what I could do is I could out thank you right so if you put me at the line of scrimmage and I get up and recognize I got two safeties I got a three technique on the weak side

here we go man I'm around here you know before you have an opportunity to to adjust to that and so yeah you're right if a quarterback who is better in no huddle gets put into a Bill Walsh you know a quick ball out of your hand dink and dunk system it may not be best for him but that's the thing every single quarterback in the league has the skills to be there yeah every quarterback in the league has the skills to be a you know to to to play it NFL football and you know some more than others and sometimes those the the ones that are at the top don't get put into the best situation to have let them be successful yeah it's it's it's actually like you know it's oftentimes we go back to uh like Nick Saban and Bill Belichick but like the things that those two

guys do different than everyone else is they will adjust their team to their strengths a year and a year out even in the season where it's like this isn't just hey this is my system we're running my system until it works it's no these are the strengths of my team this is what I'm gonna do like you saw it with Alabama going against Georgia like they don't have a good offensive line they're gonna scheme up stuff to get the ball out quick to let the receivers make place they don't have to block for a really long time so I don't know it's just it's I've definitely changed my opinion that obviously players deserve some blame but I think a organization and a coaching staff deserves as much blame as well it's interesting that you brought up yeah go ahead Joe

well I was gonna say you you made an interesting point about Saban because I played for him with the Dolphins yeah yeah I was there the the year that he left Miami to go to Alabama and and you're right to a certain point right you're right that he will adjust and he will recognize what he needs to do week to week but there's a foundation that exists right there he talks about winning football play winning football do this this this and this and you have a chance to win you don't do those things and screw it don't even show up what are the things what's that what are the things that he says like what's the foundation it is all preparation right it is um god you're gonna you're gonna quiz me now um it's not specific you know you have to you know drink a cup of coffee and you

you know and eat eggs in the morning like but there are certain standards you hold yourself to right certain ways that you approach the game it's it's an idea of of having it be more than just a game right having to be a business having to be a job the the knowledge that somebody else is coming to try and do what you do they're trying to take your spot don't give them that opportunity and it's not don't make a mistake but it's prepare better than anybody else else out there right so once you've established that work ethic now you can make the changes now you can say this week i need to be here whereas next week i need to be here but without that foundation doesn't matter what you got because you're gonna get your butt kicked yeah with sabin um

when he was you know coaching you on the dolphins you always hear about like how he approaches the game in college and how he gets the players to buy in was there was it easy for him to get you guys to buy him because of what he had done at the collegiate level um or was it like you know you hear about some of the former patriots assistants that go somewhere and they try to be like bill bellichick on the patriots but they haven't won anything yet at that level so you know there's like some hesitance from some of the vets on the team or did you guys like listen to them you're like hey there's nick sabin obviously a very good football mind you know i i think it kind of depended on who you were talking to to be perfectly honest um because nick likes control

like nick likes to be like he said this is how you play winning football this is what you do that doesn't always fly in the nfl right it's easy to tell an 18 year old kid show up get in line do it this way and if you don't do it this way then i'm going to find somebody else who will but when you're talking to a 30 year old vet who has eight years of nfl experience and five probles under his belt you can't exactly tell him this is the only way to do it right because he can say no coach i've had success doing it another way and so i think it really kind of depended on who you talk to like you talk to guys like jason taylor's act thomas um i know that they had some i don't say some bumps um but they were able to work respectfully um and you know from what i saw

they they were able to work with each other um i i can't speak to a lot of the other stuff um um you know how well it translated but you also have to come out at two from the perspective that nick is who he is now that was what was it 0 6 0 7 so that was 14 years ago right we got 14 years of experience in saying oh nick sabin is the best because at that moment he wasn't the best he was just he was good right he was what you would want a national championship at lsu went gave a shot in the nfl and i think he realized that wasn't the best place best place for him yeah and went back to college where he could control every one of those little details and we've seen what's happened i mean the guy hates losing and i i would just like it's incredible to even imagine

that nick sabin's in the nfl where at i think in his best season what he goes there for two years in seven he went nine nine and seven in his best season so like at at best you're just barely above 500 i would imagine that a record like that even would drive nick sabin insane i wasn't there for that year i was there for the six and ten year um and yeah there were some uh there were some there were some fun conversations that uh that came out it came out of nick's mouth that was uh that's for sure well i had yeah i had one last question about sabin obviously you were only with him for a year but i and you can tell me if this is way off but the one thing i always thought i admired out of nick sabin and i think the best coaches do this is they don't ever make excuses

for like why their team doesn't they always kind of own it themselves the fire alarms going off so if you hear it in the background sorry for the concept yeah yeah but um it feels like he doesn't make excuses he owns like you know he's gonna do the work he probably i actually read an article where you said the i loved playing for nick sabin because he always told me honestly where i stood he told me straight up this is where you need to get better this is what you're not doing right and then if he's honest with his players then he can stand up in front of uh you know the media and say it's on me to get them ready that's exactly how he operates and that's why he has the respect of so many people you know that there is that's not to say that he hasn't pissed some people off

along the way right because that idea of my way or the highway um doesn't doesn't sit with everybody but yeah you're right he he expects i won't say he expects perfection but um he expects accountability and he shows accountability and there are plenty of times when he stood up and i knew i threw you know i threw a pick and you know gave him a touchdown at the end of the game you know at the end of the first half or whatever it was and nick stands up and says no that's on me i didn't uh i didn't get him prepared well enough and i'll tell you as a player that's playing for him that means something yeah that that's a lot different than somebody going up to the microphone and saying yeah we need to get a lot better on offense especially you know especially at the quarterback

position or the running back position you know whatever it is and calling guys out you know that's that that works for some not for all um but i respected coach for for the way he was able to stand up and say you know what at the end of the day it falls on me yeah and it's my about to get them ready and if they don't play well enough i need to do a better job it's an underrated thing that i think we obviously joke about because it's a cliche but you can notice the good coaches will say that and then the bad coaches will say we'll find a way to almost squirm around it and be like wow this is a problem and this is a problem it's like you know you got to just oh like you're the coach the buck stops with you you know you know why because it's all

about it's cya right it's cover your ass yeah because there are so few jobs in this football world right whether it's college football or the you know the nfl specifically 32 jobs you got 32 opportunities to stay there as long as you possibly can and that's part of what makes that business difficult and what makes it um such a departure from college football where in that college football locker room it's your hundred guys and your coaches and that's it and no one's getting in there in the nfl people realize that there's a there's a seven figure paycheck coming to me if i can stick around for another year right so if i can push the buck to somebody else then that gets me a little bit something more for my family down the road and

that's real that's that's that's the reality yeah and so after you were in Miami you alluded to this earlier but you went up to Atlanta and you were signed there to to back up michael vick and bobby patrino had just come in that offseason had a lot of success in college they wanted him to coach michael vick and use his mobility all that stuff and then record scratch like two months after you get signed michael vick gets arrested for dog fighting and now you're going to run bobby patrino's offense and you're having to learn all that first of all like what was it like you know the the days and weeks before the indictments came down and michael vick like were you guys completely caught off guard or was there some you know sense of the organization that you might

have to step into a different role i would i think it's fair to say that i was completely caught off guard and let me say this so there's there's a couple different things here first of all with me and mike i came in to be his backup right after getting you know after all the mess in detroit and then you know thinking i'm going to to miami to kind of reset and then saving leaves and everybody gets cleaned house i'm going to Atlanta thinking okay this is my chance to reset no one's as stable as mike thick no one's taking a spot you know i can truly just kind of sit and and recover i didn't want to i didn't want to i don't say put my nose in it like i didn't want to get involved but it started to kind of trickle like a little bit here a little bit there and then

it starts to build momentum and to the point where it's like you know i got reporters asking me questions about mike i was like man i i don't know i can't i can't answer that and so i asked mike i was like look buddy like i don't want to get in your business but i want to know how i should handle this for you right if these questions come to me because i don't want to say something that you know is is is wrong for you and there was a feeling of you know kind of like you know i'm going to be all right like we're going to it's going to be fine that he that he shared with me now come to fight on it wasn't fine and um and actually i i love you know i love mike's story like he because he was such a great guy and the fact that you know i don't want to say

it was good that it happened to him but the way that he responded from it and the type of person he is he is now and in the way he responded in his career i mean i got nothing but respect for that guy it's it's amazing what he went through but yeah there was kind of a caught out of left field you know moment for me i was actually at home i was over the sun i was over in central oregon and i had just gone for like a hike up a black a black beaut is what it's called it's like a little you know kind of mountain over and over in central oregon i came down and stepped on a rock wrong and rolled my ankle and i'm sitting at home back on the on the couch and i my phone rings and it was our our quarterback coach bill musgravy says well you ready i was like

ah man um you know funny you called i'm kind of icing my ankle right now but i'll be fine i mean no big deal he said no are you ready what are you talking about he said turn on turn on espn so i clicked it on and sure enough mike's being taken away in handcuffs that's not really something that you prepare for like in media training it's like all right the guy that has your job he just got arrested for running a dog fighting kennel go yeah you know so that's like you know that that's actually part of the playbook you know it's like all right you wake up you had your coffee you do your weight workout watch some film you know get ready for the you know the guy ahead of you to be arrested and then you go out and you run seven on seven like right you there's

no playbook for that and so i show up for camp and it's and it's more than just like being thrust into a job it's pita protesters outside the yeah the practice facility it's i mean there were uh airplanes with like big signs circling the practice field like you know your new name is the Atlanta dog killers and it's like man what the hell is going on you look i just wanted to be a backup i just wanted to get on the shop level where i sit behind michael vick for six years and then get a nice contract somewhere else and the best part is bobby patrino's the coach who is not he's ill equipped for everything yeah he was he was unprepared he was unprepared to so unprepared for that situation but he was unprepared to be an NFL head coach i mean that's the thing like we talked about with

with nick and you know being straight up with someone and and talking to a you know man-to-man conversation we had a team of vets i mean it was warwick don it was algae crumpler and wane gandy and john abraham lawyer maloy keith brook i mean we had vets on that team and after a couple weeks crump and warwick came up to me like look you got to go talk to talk to bobby because we would install like like 1200 plays and then run like six of them in the game and we we we don't know what the hell we're doing like who are we what kind of team do we want to be like we're practicing all this stuff and then we run like this tiny little bit of it so i went up and i talked to bobby and i said hey look i'm bringing a message from the team you know this is not you know i get it i

understand i'm ready to do whatever you want to do but this is what the team is telling me and you need to know this and so he said all right cool let's let's tear down the ready list this week you know let's cut this let's cut this great i left there thinking you know that was a good meeting like this is this is going to be a positive step i showed up for practice the next morning and uh Hugh Jackson who was our oc and bill musgraver sitting on the in the qb room and they're just like coffeeed out and bags under their eyes and i was like man what's going on he says did you talk to bobby last night i was like yeah we had a great talk huh because immediately after you left bobby came down into our office and started screaming at us like you mfers why doesn't our

quarterback know what's going on why can't we do this why can't we do that and not only did he put every single play that we took out in he added another you know 200 plays onto our ready list to go in and play that week and it's like to have the audacity to challenge what it is that i'm trying to say in the way that i'm trying to run this team like i'm sorry that's that's not how you operate yeah and then to and then to literally drop i mean i don't think we have enough time for the for the the whole bobby patrino story about like how he was talking to um arthur blank saying i'm gonna be here the long term and went on arthur went on monday night football and said bobby looked me in the eye and said you got a head coach in me after that game he looked at us in the

locker room said every single one of you needs to look at yourself in the mirror and decide what you can do to help this organization get better he walked out the out the door and we never saw him again oh my god how can i help to do this organization get better i can leave yeah and leave you a note on your locker and say peace i'm out of here and that night he was doing pig stew yeah the press conference that was that was an alt if you don't know that because we have some younger listeners probably patrino it looked like he was in a bunker they had like they had thrown him away in a bunker to do his press conference with arkansas because it was like it was literally in the middle of the night you know leaving the falcons probably probably his second most favorite

yes press conference that he had in arkansas besides one where he's wearing the neck brace i have to imagine that when you saw him wearing the neck brace and trying to explain why he was got getting into an accident with i guess his secretary on the back of his bike or whatever it was um that probably had to be like a very funny moment for you i never wish ill on anybody right right i'm not i'm not gonna ever wish bad things to happen to people but i can't say that i was surprised right yeah i'm gonna leave it like that like yes so when you when you talk about the note i wanted to get in some specifics of the note that he left you was it just one note was it on like a sheet of paper was it on atlanta falcons stationary or was it like on a napkin what kind

of note are we talking about yeah i can find this thing i could i i got it steve weish was the atlanta journal constitution he sent me about i don't take too long it was like four sentences it was like uh i'm sorry this is working out this way and um you know this is the best decision for me and my family um i'm sure you can understand that thanks see yeah that's it yeah exactly and it was literally left on the stool each one of us had it left on the stool of of our locker oh we made copies wow just copied class out of it but the best part though is so he came so we're downstairs and this was the day after a monday game right so we had a short week coaches had been in there you know since like five in the morning the following day after the game

right so this would be a monday night game so tuesday morning all the offensive coaches are just grinding five six in the morning up there we as players come in probably like eight or nine o'clock and so it doesn't quite like there's this disconnect like they're upstairs working not knowing what's going on as we come trickling into the locker room and start to figure it out so bobby ends up coming back and this is all told us through you know arthur and rich mckay then following day in our team meeting bobby came back in and um and essentially came in and quit like to you know like that afternoon to rich and he just started walking out and rich was like dude i don't care what you say to me but you got an entire coaching staff down there that has been

working for you all day and you better go talk to them and so he said he like let him down the down the hall like a child bobby walked into the off into the offensive room and said thank you for your effort i wish things were different i'm going to arkansas any left and that's and hopped on the jet and pig suey you you're like uh you're like the forest gump of bad nfl moments between that like mike vick and then sabin leaving we're going to get back to joey herrington in a second but before we do want to talk about cross-country mortgage rates right now are unbelievably low don't pay the bank more money than you need to cross-country mortgage they're actually a lot like us at barstool there are people first group of people

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cross-country mortgage llc nml s 3029 all loan subject to underwriting approval www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org here's more more joey herrington so this might be a little bit of a tough question but i'm sure you have an answer or something you thought about it but is there a sliding doors moment is there one moment that you go back and you're like man if that one had been different if i drafted differently if i'd maybe come out a year earlier if i had if nick saban had stayed in the nfl like is there one moment that you think of like that could have that could change some things i actually had that moment a couple a couple weeks ago actually um so there were five teams that wanted a quarterback that year because i wasn't coming out earlier i

mean my junior year was was fine but i was i had no intention i mean i was a college guy like i loved joey it was awesome so i'm i'm staying there were five teams that wanted a quarterback houston buffalo detroit washington not six washington can uh sinsonati and kansas city and kansas city was kind of laid into the game and so i didn't want to you know houston i say five because houston took david car like they're out of play i didn't want to go to sinsonati or buffalo i wouldn't have minded to go into washington um i wanted to go to kansas city and detroit was just kind of in the middle because you have to remember detroit was only only only two years removed from barry sanders right he only retired a couple years ago you know so i miss barry sanders by two years i

miss ricky williams by one year um you know it so it wasn't a horrible place to go at the time but the kansas city coaching staff that was dick for meal that was um terry shay that was oh god there was another guy too um that had a lot of actual connection back to my dad right so my dad played at oregon uh he was the starting quarterback for the very first game at ottson stating so he was the starting quarterback for the first game at ottson and i was the starting quarterback for the last game before they did the remodel um funny he never told me that i had to learn it out from and learn it from a reporter you know as it was happening but so he had a has a connection to all those because that oregon coaching staff

i mean that was john robinson john madden terry shay um john marshal i mean guys that without were john did i say john robinson if i would yeah guys who had uh fry coach fry like in connections to college football in the nfl but there was a connection there with terry shay um that felt comfortable right that was the place where i wanted to be that was a place where i felt like they we had a connection like there was that i was gonna play for them and they were gonna take care of me and had come to find out had i fallen past detroit then they were gonna take me um and you know may or may not have been true um may or may not have happened but that that kind of moment the other day where someone was telling me about you know reminded me

about that i was like yeah if i had gone to kansas city if matt because matt millan and marty mornan wigg who the detroit coach at the time were not on the same page right marty didn't want me you know mary uchi didn't want me because i weren't i wasn't a west coast guy right i wasn't i wasn't quick i wasn't mobile i wasn't ball out of my hands but matt millan loved me and so he picked and and that was he and i joked still and he'll look at me you know my name is my legal name is john joseph it's not you know i just go by joey and he always called me john joseph he was like john joseph man i ruined your career yeah i was like well matt you know you a little bit kind of but no i kind of ruined my career too so we can both kind of own it together but if matt had not

done that if matt if you hadn't picked me i could have been chief yeah until pat patrick my homes took over i've always heard that about matt millan like he got a lot of shit back in the 2000s for for some of those drafts and probably deservedly so but yeah everybody i've never heard anybody say a bad word about matt millan the person they all love him he's amazing what he used to wear like overalls around the uh around the team facility oh yeah because he's i mean the guy had a farm and still you know essentially lives on you know a big acreage out in rural pennsylvania like he's he's just a good person like he's not is no mess there's no fuss there's no louis viton luggage like dude i'm gonna show up i'm gonna do my job and i want people who are

gonna show up and do the same thing and same way with sabin same way with like any of those coaches like you can respect that did he make mistakes hell yeah he made mistakes um but he did it he did it with the right intention you know with the right intentions in mind he was trying to do the right thing right but he screwed up and that happens sometimes and he owns it and you can respect that all right now dumb questions sliding doors question do you think uh the fact that you went by joey as a professional as a grown man hurt you at all because i do think that matters like joe john herrington might have had a long career wasn't there a joe a joey browner had a decent decent uh career with the uh with the vikings

there's so i'm trying to think right now like no one goes by maddie joe is it burrow yeah it's like joey burrow i don't think has a good career joe joe herrington this is now you know it's nitpicking joe herrington sounds like a vice president of an insurance yeah we're we're picking apart your career we're trying to find where things went wrong okay so what you're essentially saying is it is my parents fault no no no no we're going here no no joey herrington is a great college football name i think when you get drafted you drop the y and you go as joe herrington fair fair you know it's funny matt told me the same thing really all right so matt mill and i both very incredible football it wasn't it wasn't joey montana it wasn't joey name

it's joe yes but that's me like that's i can't change me and that that was the thing like and that's so funny that he said that because it's like it's it's a very it's an admittedly a very dumb thing for me to be hung up on but it's like i just always like yeah i don't know his name was joey might might have been awesome i don't know yeah you know and i think that's maybe yeah we'll we'll leave it there we'll leave it there i i hear your point i hear your point you know it wasn't joey name it it wasn't joey montana right you know like i'll go with that maybe jj yeah jj herrington that you could make a switch to running back at that point yeah that's a good running back you get faster when your name is jj herrington yes absolutely well and maybe that

was the problem is i wasn't fast enough because my name was joey had i become jj herrington then i would have been able to avoid that free rusher off the back side don't need to come back with a guy on my that extra letter hanging weighing you down on your back yes yes it's all about ounces just so really you know get rid of the ounces that that keeps slowing you down i've got a i've got an organ question for you um and you are like obviously an organ legend i imagine that you still go back on campus and you're still big man on campus um just for what you did to that program but uh why didn't roboduck the mascot ever catch on because i love roboduck especially when they show the birth of roboduck when he's like jumping out of the egg wearing the the unitard and he's got like

he looks like batman but he's a duck and then you got puddles standing next to him like what the hell is this thing okay okay so hold on hold on we'll get into we'll get into the the the whole duck genealogy okay first of all puddles is not the the the duck that is there right now okay that is just the duck okay or duck for short right if you don't want him to be you know joey you could or the duck you got it right so puddles was like an actual um water fowl like a duck like a mallard that they'd bring from the mill race which is like the you know like the little slew running by the by the stadium down onto campus and they put it on a leash and they would bring it into the game and there was like this little thing quacking along and that was puddles and so

then they went through like this whole disney mashup where it was kind of donald but you know they had the the donald duck coming through the o but then some of the coaches wanted to be like an angry donald and then there was the like the fighting ducks and it's like what the hell are we doing here and then there was the the lawsuit with disney and you know they settled on this the duck right so this duck is amazing right he is hilarious then they tried to like hatch this new identity like they like you said they brought him out of like this smoking egg and at midfield and you know he had muscles bursting out of his leotard and when you're used to when you're used to the duck and the ducks antics and the ducks because that was the best part of of the duck is

he I mean the guy's just a fool right that whoever's in that suit is just is they're hilarious they're the you know you watch the mortgage commercials and the duck's always the best one in there you know it's not like sparty or somebody who's like you know takes himself self too seriously and so we as a Oregon community said well we already got facilities we already got uniforms we don't need like a flashy new you know new mascot like thank you but no thank you and it was like one of those um one of those moments where they didn't do the what's the you put everybody in a room focus focus group yep they obviously did not do a focus group on the new duck because 99% of all Oregon fans hated that thing it's so funny to watch the funniest

thing though is I don't know if it's the actual if it's the actual roboduck but it is the you know the twitter thing might be the funniest twitter twitter account on out there is roboduck because he's got like some crazy just outlandish takes so you know things work out yeah um all right so joey this has been awesome I have one last question we appreciate your time there's been a lot of fun so speaking of all your experience in the nfl and everything that happened I assume you watch the nfl nowadays and you see what's going on who's the guy you look at right now whether it be rookie or maybe it's the second year where I'm like give that guy more time give him more time don't don't make a decision on him I see what's going on it's similar to my situation

where you can't throw him out right away because things maybe haven't broken his way give me some options there's Zach Wilson Zach Wilson to uh Trevor Lawrence obviously has had a tough year I think two is I think two is a probably a good example of that I would have said at the beginning of the if you talk to me you know week two I would have said Sam Darwood right I would have said that that's the guy who is in a tough situation in New York and ended up in Carolina and and started to have some success but I like the idea of two right because there was how are you gonna how are you gonna seriously have public discussions about trading for Deshaun Watson when you've just spent your the first round pick on two right there's the whole tank for two a

campaign like you wanted this guy now you give him you give him one season I think that he is that's that's a great example um he's had some success it started to play better lately but that that's the perfect the perfect example right there I think that and and we'll see how it plays out but all those discussions when they were talking about trading for Deshaun Watson I was sitting there thinking like that is the dumbest thing you could do you are undercutting the confidence of that kid you are completely undercutting what you're trying to build and not only are you gonna not end up with Deshaun Watson but now you're gonna end up with the two who who who potentially may undercut himself right because that's all that's all the NFL is about is confidence yeah and I

told this story a hundred times it goes back to what um you know what we were talking about every every quarterback on the roster can make every throw but the difference is being confident in yourself and knowing when to throw it like so my rookie year we were playing the Raiders and it was Rod Rod Woodson that already left he was it wasn't a corner anymore it was at the end of his career and and and moved to safety and I look back I knew the I knew the coverage I had a dig coming in in front of him I was going to clear it out with a seam route looked him off band came back and threw it steps in front and he picks it off it's like what the hell like I like and so I went up and talked to him afterwards I said tell me what it is like what what did I do to tip it

off with my eyes did my receiver cut his route short you know should he have cleared on your outside shoulder instead and he looked at me is like no hell no I've seen that route every day in practice for 14 years and I'll be damned if a rookie is going to beat me on it right and so the knowledge on the other side of the of the ball the anticipation it's not the it's not the physical speed of the guys when they talk about the speed of the game it's their reaction times it's seeing it every day for 14 years and saying I know what's coming I'm going to step here so if you're a young quarterback and you for and you step back and you throw that ball right maybe one time the first time it gets knocked down maybe the second time it gets picked off because you come back and it's

like you hesitate for just that second and that gives that db that rod woods and an extra second to step in front now if you've completely lost your confidence and you come back and it's like I don't know if I should throw this maybe I should now you throw it and he picks it and he takes it back for six right hesitation lack of confidence doubt is the killer of all young quarterbacks that's all it is it's not skill it's it's do I believe in myself enough to go out and cut it loose and even if it gets picked off to come back and cut it loose again yeah right and that goes back to all the all the things you were talking about like how well do you work with your coach how well do feel supportive what kind of what kind of talent do you have around you but if you as a quarterback

know that hey my organization is trying to trade for Deshaun Watson yeah oh and I'm going to go up and I think man I I can't throw an interception today the moment you doubt the moment you doubt that the moment you hesitate is the moment you throw that pick which which sends you down that spiral anyway so I think that's a great example is is they need to they need to make sure they're supporting to it because he's shown that he can do it if he has you know he's shown flashes but he's also shown the other side too right make sure you support that guy and and he could be a hell of a football player okay so welcome to two and on you're a part of the group select few previously two and on yeah two and on yeah it's part of we're part we're part of two and on being

crimson we're two and on believers I was a non-believer and I've been reformed to be a believer so you are now part of it so I hear like there are what what should I know about this show no either there's two and on there's like I saw you were doing like like dude like like toilet paper or something like oh geez dude wipes dude wipes there's a lot of things that it's it's probably best that you just enjoy the show at a surface level because once you get too deep yeah like where we go to we go all the best way to describe our show is that we are not very smart but we are smart enough to know that we're not very smart so whatever that smart right yeah in a weird backwards way maybe but it's like a meatball fans thoughts deep down covered up with a little bit of self

awareness that we are meatball fans so we can make fun of ourselves fair yeah like we we like you like having you on is great because we can talk about it you know if if Joey Harrington's career played out right now we would just be like every every sunday by Joey Harrington bust drop the why bro that would that's pretty much what would happen oh actually that reminds me we do need to discuss whether or not you were a jeans model because I have it in the back of my head started yeah that's how this whole thing started okay so I was thinking about that I think where you may have gotten that is I do remember at one time like doing an interview and saying that I turned down like there was like an offer from Levi's or something my rookie year okay to do like you

know to be a Levi's spokesperson or whatever and I turned it down because that was like you know I kind of want to just like establish myself as a player first before we start getting into like all the endorsement stuff looking back I should have grabbed it because you know the next couple years sucked and it's like you know damn I wish it would have had some free jeans but that's probably where it came from that's that's the only thing I could think that must be it I must have just seen that interview and then my brain filled in the gaps and it was like well what what would it look like if Joey Harrington was a jeans model probably well and like I said I do wear jeans like you know okay I've worn a pair or two in my life so maybe that's you know maybe

that's it too it's possible I have seen you wearing a pair of jeans before we should send him some you're a good looking guy I could say that we spend an hour together now you're a good looking guy you should have a mugsy sponsor yeah you should you're good are you still interested are you still interested in a jean sponsorship sure why not okay we'll talk to our team for me and I'll take three right I'm actually a jeans guy so like I we are sponsored by jeans we've got jeans on right now okay look he wears them all the time don't you want to say we're a little more comfortable just like us there you go um all right well Joey this has been awesome appreciate it so much man if you're ever in New York love to have you come stop by in person so

although I feel like people who live out on you know the Pacific Northwest they just enjoy life and not have to deal with the bullshit that is like New York City you know I yes yeah that's all I had to say yeah but but what I will say is I love New York I love going to New York like it's there's just nothing like it there's nothing like you know I'd we would do the college football when I was still calling games we would do the college football awards stuff at the end of the year in New York and I'll go out there I wouldn't have anything to do until you know the the dinners at night time and I would just spend all day I get I go down to Central Park you know I get a paper at times and get a cup of coffee and I just start walking and then you just

walk all the way up you know Madison then you walk down and I like Times Square and just like just people watching because it's crazy yeah I jerk it off guy shitting you know somewhere yeah no it's great yeah you know Steve Buscemi coming down the hill and like and like shopping car with like a helmet on yeah great times great times yeah yeah all right well thanks so much man really appreciate it yeah you bet guys anytime yeah I'm gonna meet you man take care all right that was Joe Harrington before we get into guys on chicks Shady Rays is here Shady Rays is back they never really left they're the only sunglasses I ever wear if you see me wearing shades I'm wearing Shady Rays they're the official sunglasses sponsor

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unless there's a fire in your car you can still probably drive it I just should always reset I'd hit the reset button and then if it doesn't come on for at least a couple days you're good I used to just say it's just a fuse probably just a blown fuse no actually honestly if it's a tire issue just drive to any gas station and walk in and be like hey I think my car is broken and then the uh the simp that works behind the counter will come out and he'll just fill your tire up with air it's very easy yeah it's pretty disneyed it was but that's okay hi guys I was wondering I mean nice hi guys I was wondering if you guys had any input as far as what I should do with my boyfriend so for his birthday I got him a Nintendo switch easy to say it was the worst

decision of my life he won't stop playing to the fullest extent like when I say he won't stop playing he will not stop all caps he brought a traveling case and brings it all caps everywhere with him oh love this out to eat with friends switch comes to San Jose sharks game switch comes to dinner at what I thought to be his future in-laws switch Christ even late at night when trying to get intimate hold on babe I just need to win this grand prix real quick it's getting so bad to the point where I don't know if I should break the switch or just leave him any thoughts wait I'm embarrassed and really frustrated that is consuming his life is a switch handheld yeah I want one they're great fuck this guy actually sounds cool in the way that he is doing the most

disrespectful things and the lamest things that he knows they're like there are there are social rules set up against bringing your video games out to dinner with your in-laws there's a normal what's his parents so they're normal rules like don't bring your phone or your your gaming system to a live sports game that you're watching but he just doesn't care at all I got the itch I was just saying it if I don't know what phase they're in right now like how long it's been that he's had the switch speaking from my own experience if you just let me play my video games for like three weeks straight I'll tire out and I'll find something else I think most people are very much like that we're like a new game or a new system it's balls to the wall for three weeks maybe a

month and then you kind of wake up you're like oh shit I should probably do other things in life it would be pretty awesome if he was bringing a hockey game to the hockey game though well that would be cool that would be sick yeah that'd be very cool that's like when I was a little kid and I thought that my Gameboy controlled that's why they made you turn it off when you were landing because I could control the plane with my Gameboy no that's very stupid very stupid that was when I was 14 just kidding my boyfriend's brother used to be cool and we would all hang out together often he got a girlfriend that ruined everything fun about him from his willingness to go out to his diet and even his sense of humor is it possible for him to return to normal without trying to break

my boyfriend's brother a new girlfriend up it sounds like this girl really likes her boyfriend's brother that's what this time you're you're mad you mad camera on meme that your boyfriend's brother has a girlfriend because you used to get all that time to yourself yeah yes sounds like kitty kitty kitty kelly yeah yeah oh she's he's dating this new slut that just gives him head all the time what are you gonna say billy buy your boyfriend's brother and intend to switch also a good idea boom call back no you can't do anything there's nothing you can do about it you sound selfish too because you have your boyfriend and then you also want the boyfriend brother too yeah come on she likes this guy yeah for sure all right we'll end with this one hey fellas my boyfriend and I

have been together for four years one presidency my best friend just got engaged and of course well wait no it's gotta be two presidents well I added that that was a little okay but you didn't do the math right but you know what I'm being positive four years equals one presidency right but it's been president's term but it's been president's term you count by the it's been two presidencies how long is one president but it's been two presidents how long is one presidential term four years but it's been two presidents okay my best friend actually you're right big hat my best friend just got engaged and of course her wedding is on the same day as my boyfriend's sister's wedding my boyfriend said he wants me to come to his sister's wedding but I don't want to

regret not going to my best friend's wedding which wedding should I go to you gotta go to your best friend's wedding what is this wait best friend so it's all right so this chick her best friend got engaged getting married her boyfriend's sister is also getting married same date they've been dating four years one presidency one presidency or two I think you have if it's truly your best friend now it can't be because girls like to say everyone's their best friend they have a lot of best friends just gonna shoot that straight I think you have to go to your best friend's wedding I think it all comes down to which invitation you got first but if you're in the best friend's wedding you have to go to that like if you're in that's actually the if you are in she's not the

best friend if she's not in the wedding yeah and if she's in it she's got to go and if but think about if you're if you're gonna marry this kid and you're gonna be in yeah seeing all these pictures and stuff for the rest of your life every dinner like every time they talk about the wedding it's gonna be like oh you weren't there but it's your best friend if it is your best friend yeah it sounds to me like in the wedding I think big cat was sniffing out a rat on this yeah because it doesn't you would be in the wedding you would be a bridesmaid right because girls they'll have like they don't give a shit right 16 bridesmaids and be like oh yeah my husband's a loser he only has two but I'm still going with my you know like two dozen that I've got that I haven't seen since

college so I think that if you were actually a best friend you would have made that cut and you would be in the wedding right there is no what if there is no wedding parties no wedding parties then it sounds like it's a broke wedding go go to the other one yeah no probably a cash bar pay for your beer yeah you could also go to one rehearsal dinner and then go to the other wedding but I think you got to go I think that's worse in the wedding if you're in the wedding you have to go what if you're not in the wedding then there's no wedding parties but there's no wedding party so it's like an intimate intimate guest well then that's even more that's more procedure if it's like under 20 people at the wedding and no wedding party then yeah that probably is your

best actually now that I'm thinking about this whole thing this is your perfect time to basically hold your boyfriend hostage and be like I would love to go but who knows if we're gonna be together forever hint hint get that ring you could basically you have all the leverage because if he really wants you to go you gotta be like well I don't know like what if we break up in a year or you can see how much he cares about you can do the real passive aggressive thing and tell him that you're going to go to his sister's wedding and then always be like scrolling Instagram with pictures of you and your best friend yes and be like oh I'm so sad I'm not going to be able to be there for Sarah's wedding and then see if he'll be like you know what babe it sounds like this wedding means

a lot to you you can go yeah if you know that he'll do that then you're gonna want to stick around with him also check the uh invite because let's just call a spade a spade guys we're we're uh you know boosting up the patriarch here what if the best what if your boyfriend's sister is actually getting married to your best friend that could happen lesbians the woman was a doctor the whole time right like wow we we fucked that actually that's actually this question she's doing this to fuck with us she thought we wouldn't get to this point where we're like two women can get married nice try we sniffed it out go to both weddings at the same time with your boyfriend's sister love is love no your bet your best friend is marrying your boyfriend's sister

love is love that was all a plan to make us look like misogynistic assholes and we totally got it there's gonna be that's a hot wedding what about this though what if what if the girl's best friend is a guy oh could also be and they then they could be getting married too and what if what if the boyfriend's sister is we don't know okay transitioning so there it could be anything the girl's best friend is a guy right who's marrying the boyfriend's sister but the sister is really pissed off at the brother because the other brother's new girlfriend sucks and that's you yeah so don't go to any wedding yep sounds like you're just not wanted around we gave you all the uh permutations on this one that we nailed that we crushed that um all right

numbers numbers eight numbers yeah i just had a quick recap yeah yeah hope you do it let's go Kyler Murray's always remind me of something everyone's like you know like he's small it's weird or whatever his helmet's really big just realized mad no nine had an all play five on five mode where all the players had huge heads yes i remember that's Kyler Murray on the we okay yes that's where it was yeah it was like in my brain somewhere it looks like a me character yeah the big headed football players from that's where it's from all right sick billy that was your recap kind of billy's recap was just another point one thing all right i like it billy thank you numbers what do you got jake we got 18 18 again you're going to write back yep you can but this

is now getting to a point so you've won it three times yeah but people are asking can you win it with a different number your system player that's what people are asking people are asking i'm not asking what people are asking can jake win the lottery with with a different number can you take another number across the finish well jake also you pick 18 because it's like a lucky number a jewish good luck number right that too yeah yeah but can you win it with another number maybe i did an mj win six i guess we'll know yeah but i'm talking about like it's more like coaching right like you i mean it's he did but then he went to the wizards and got exposed as being a fraud no nfl coach no nfl coach has ever won a super with two different franchises

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i just thought of them i just talked about them oh all right just google them to see exactly what i'm saying i love you guys talking away well i don't know what i'm to say i'll say did you wait today is another day to find you shine away oh i've been coming for your love okay take on me me let's to say

i'm upset it's but i'll be stolen away turn and learn life is okay say out to me me i said better to be safe and sorry take on me how things let me stay how things let me stay me how things let me stay

how things let me stay how things let me stay me but just to play the you are things i've got to remember you shine away well i'll be coming for you anyway take on me well i'll be coming for you anyway take on me take on me