Pardon My Take - John Elway, Mt Rushmore Of After School Snacks, Olympics Are Here And Team USA (Most Of Them) Played Their First Game

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

Football is back as we are now at the beginning of 26 straights weeks of football every week being played. Olympics started and we talk about the opening ceremony, Team USA's first game, Tatum not playing and Embiid playing bad(00:00:00-00:30:39). Who's back of the week including Urban Meyer and his new spanish beer(00:30:39-00:47:58). NFL Hall of Famer John Elway joins the show to talk about his iconic career, holding out in the draft, the band is on the field game, winning 2 super bowls, being an executive, his scouting and tons more(00:47:58-01:33:51). We finish the show with Mt Rushmore of after school snacks(01:33:51-01:55:29).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have an awesome, awesome, awesome interview with the legend himself, John Elway. I was teasing it on Twitter today, PFT, and I said that it was one of those interviews that we don't do it very often, but like, I was legitimately starstruck. He's a legend. It's John Elway.

He was football. He was part of some of the most iconic games, plays, Super Bowls, college games ever. And we talked to every... He literally got the whole interview. He was cool with us. We even talked about Paxton Lynch. So awesome interview. We're going to talk a little Olympics. Team USA had their first official game of the Olympics. Hank is on vacation, but he is going to join us for

some Jason Tatum talk. And then we do a very fun Mount Rushmore. Crazy. Oh, crazy. Oh, Hank. I thought he was going to join. He's going to join us. Hank, you're not joining us yet. It's gonna be an all time spin zone. And then after the John Elway interview will be our Mount Rushmore, which is a very fun one. Mount Rushmore of after school snacks, after school snacks. And we are brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. If you're not playing best ball at DraftKings, you're missing out. Here's what you need to know. DraftKings best ball millionaire contest is their biggest fantasy contest ever. 15 million guaranteed prize pool with two, that's right, two millionaires being crowned for first and second place. If you're a set

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to get a bonus ticket and get a shot at being crowned one of two millionaires only on DraftKings. Today is Monday, July 29th. And PFT football is back. What a great weekend. It was back together weekend for the NFL. It is back. What I'm talking about now, I know that preseason

doesn't matter anymore. And I know the Hall of Fame game on Thursday, there will probably be no starters playing. But this is the beginning of the first week where every single week for the next 26 weeks we will have football on our TV. And again, I know that there's not going to be actual like starters playing on Thursday night, but seeing the helmets, seeing the ball, seeing the field, football is back.

We're going to get to the kickoffs. See the kickoffs. No, it was back together weekend. I don't know if you saw that, but the NFL was making a real hard push to call this back together weekend. Jim Ursay came to a first practice. It's the first time being seen in public since December. Yeah. It's, it's good to see every team. You get all the little nuggets. Most of them don't make any difference whatsoever, but you get to see like a new quarterback making the easy pass and be like, damn, that spiral looks

tight. Yeah. Daniel Jones, missing Yeah, Daniel Jones missing the league neighbors. Missing the league neighbors. I saw that one. I saw one where he did complete a pass down the sidelines from the league neighbors who only got one foot in. And then they put that out as like, we got ourselves a weapon. Yeah.

Yeah, just the social media from the first weekend of the NFL being back is awesome because every team, you think that you're gonna be like 10 wins. I can talk myself into 10 wins for any team, except for maybe, maybe not the Panthers. Yeah. But like, it's, I do feel like I have a renewed sense of optimism.

Yes. For football season, baby. Jaden Daniels looks good. Jaden Daniels looks awesome. And then, do you think we'll get to see any Caleb? No, I don't think so. But it doesn't matter. It's about seeing, on the TV, the graphic, the kickoff, the helmets't think so. But it doesn't matter. It's about seeing on the TV, the graphic,

the kickoff, the helmets. Oh, I'm going to watch maybe three minutes of it. Oh, no, I'm going to watch a lot of it and we're going to get to see probably a new score bug that we all get to complain about. Yeah, there's all sorts of cool stuff that goes in with with starting a new league year. And man, I feel like this was a long off season, but we're back, baby. It did feel like the longest off season. We will also probably get to see a little Tyson Bajan, which would be awesome. That'll be great Yeah, he was he said that he was so locked in he doesn't give a fuck about like bringing in You know whether there was gonna be someone who was brought in or not as as a competitive backup. Mm-hmm He said he's been grinding his absolute face off. I love that doesn't even know I love that

We're also gonna get for the first time this year in-game coach interviews. Yeah, like on the sidelines Yeah, just for that it's something to do with the NFL trial for Sunday ticket and the judge was like you need to make this More fan-friendly. I know what we'll do in game interviews with coaches who guys are yeah We'll really give a lot of good nuggets for all the fans watching at home. Guys who don't want to be interviewed being forced to interview. Yeah, you want to see- What could go wrong? You want to see Jim Harbaugh talk on camera for five seconds a half? Yeah.

That'll do it. Yeah, this will do it. But yeah, football is back. It feels good to have football back. Now, this week, like we said, is a little bit of a different week. Hank's on vacation, Max is on vacation, PFT, you're about to head out. We have the Takeys on Wednesday. We have a great interview coming Wednesday. We have a great interview coming Friday. We'll do a Zoom intro and also probably my favorite Mount Rushmore we've done of the season thus far. But we have Hank here on Zoom because US men's basketball team played their first game today. Well, some of them played

their first game. Tyrese Halliburton didn't get in, but I mean, no one expected him to get in. It's not like he's a top five player. Yeah. So 10 of the 12 guys played their first game. Very noticeably absent was one Jason Tatum, who afterwards was asked if he's sick or hurt. He said, no, I'm fine. Did not play a single minute. Henry, what are your thoughts? Steve Curry is a piece of shit. That's, that's really what this all boils down to. Jason Tatum did have a better plus minus than Joel Embiid. So yes, that's true Which max is in Paris right now and we have a video we asked him to record a video message

Addressing the fact that jay joe and bead was simply horrendous in this game. I think the stats were I have them right here they were With Joel Embiid playing there were minus eight eight. Without him playing, they were plus 34. And they were booing the shit out of him, too. The French fans don't like Joel Embiid because they offered him a passport. Yeah. Back like two years ago, I think. Spurned him.

Because they were like, we want to get Wimby, we want to get Gay, and we want to get Joel Embiid to play and just go with like a monster, like Monstars lineup, essentially. And Embiid said, no I'm gonna wait to go bear. Okay, not gay. Yeah, go bear. I was gonna say, yeah, he's French. The other I think your name is Rudy. You have a French passport. But no, I was like, yeah, is there is Rudy gay gonna be because Rudy gay is one of those guys that he was like a

creative player, the perfect like size everything and he just for some reason it was never Like what he was supposed to be but if you told me he was gonna be playing in these Olympics and be like yeah That makes sense. He's still around for France him and OJ male him and OJ male. I'm like, yeah, they're also great Great in toucan. Yeah. Yeah, so I I feel like France They're pissed off at you'll and be just like everybody else except for Philly fans are and even they hate him sometimes But yeah, Hank, that's a good spin zone where it's like it could have been worse. He could have played and stunk Yeah, but he was you could see him on the sidelines and he wasn't

He didn't seem like he was super locked in or super happy when we were doing like if you're an injured player on the sidelines You clap that shit up, you know, you root your guys on but if you're just upset that you're not in and maybe Steve Curz doing this on purpose. Yeah, maybe Kerr's trying to stop the dynasty before it starts No, see that's what I appreciate about Steve Kerr even though he's a classless piece of shit Jason Tatum was there last Olympics He led the team LeBron wasn't there Steph Curry wasn't there Joel Embiid wasn't there yet somehow Joel Embiid starting this game He's the worst player on the fucking team probably in the whole Olympics. But I should be screaming. They glossed over they didn't put Jalen Brown on the team. And now this Celtics are going to be the most motivated

championship winning team of all time coming in the next year. It's going to be great for Jason to hit me back on a team in an organization that actually appreciates them. So in a way, I'm happy that Steve Kerr did what he did, even though he's a piece of shit. Okay. So Derek White and Drew Holliday did play a lot and they played well. Question for you, Hank, does Jason Tatum, do you think he took a shower after the game? No. Do you think he's showering with the boys? Just to kind of feel some camaraderie?

No, probably not. Yeah, that's tough. So you think he's going to get heavy minutes in the second game? Yeah, I mean, Steve Kerr's little excuse after was like, you know, with KD coming, the thing is they were up 20. Like, he's all NBA. Not all games. Wait, are you saying Jason Tatum should at least

be like a walk on scrub player? He couldn't find time to put him into whatever, which is just bullshit. Like just let him play. What I'm saying is that the team did really, really well without Jason Tatum on the court. Also, Kevin Durant was like out of this world. Good. He started the game eight for eight, could not miss. So no, I know Jason Tatum to play in for instead of him. No, I just think when you have a guy again, like he he's he's put in the time he's an all NBA, you know, first team player the last two years, he just won an NBA championship. I think you can find him a couple minutes like at least mix them in the rotation. It's pretty disrespectful not to but it is what it is. But you were

saying you you would rather you think that he should get the minutes of an NBA finals MVP guy. I never said that. Like that's literally you just putting words in my mouth. I never, ever once said that. But Kevin Durant played so well today, you can't take him out when you're shooting that well. And he also has won the NBA finals MVP. I think too. Kevin Durant played phenomenal. Yeah, Kevin Durant's an all-time player.

Yeah, and Kevin Durant has embraced the nickname, finally, the Slim Reaper. Yes. Which is about goddamn time because it's such a good nickname. He had the Slim Reaper, he had the Durantula, and he was like, no, I want to be called the servant instead because he didn't feel he was worthy of the nickname. No, this is a Slim Reaper. We have Slim Reaper Kevin Durant in these Olympics. Yes.

And he, yeah, he was incredible. I have slim Reaper Kevin Durant in these Olympics. Yes. And he, yeah, he was he was incredible. I mean, he does play well on super teams. Yeah, it's true. It's a fact. It's true. So Hank, any other any other comments from vacation? Because this had to, you know, you're on vacation, you deserve your vacation. To then see this happen. You're like, God damn it, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to do like 10 minutes of my job today. That's gotta be brutal. Yeah. I did listen to the podcast earlier. Friday's podcast. I got one minute in before I turn it off. So why, why we say we were nice. I think, I think you started by, well, again, cause it's like, I talked to you guys behind the scenes and my whole family is going

to be together. They started a vacation. They're all going to get together for the first time. And I don't know how long do you mind if I take Wednesday off? Like, yeah, the law, we know prom do what you got to do. Like, yeah. And then I listened to the podcast and it's like, well, thanks on here. He fucking took a vacation. I mean, the lock would start their vacations on Wednesdays. Yeah. Do you know, ready? Go even earlier plan their vacation around the vacation you plan that you're not even taking You should have gone earlier Hank. You should take in two weeks Yeah, I might just not you know I'm gonna stay out here Well, the good news is you are gonna make it back next week for us to golf

Which I didn't plan for the record well you did well I am planning it now, but No, you said do you want. No, you set it up. You said, do you want to play golf? And I said, sure. Oh, on Friday. Yeah. I thought you were talking about the great week. Well, yeah, this is your plan this vacation week, Big Cat.

I know. And I had circumstances that made me not take a vacation. But I planned this vacation week. Right. And then I was like, Hey, like I know what you plan this vacation week. My family's getting together. Do you mind if I take one there? I'm like, yeah, no problem. Do you know? Of course. Is that how we say it? I'm just, I'm just happy that you're happy Hank, because I, I'm looking forward to you getting

back in the best of moods. Yeah. And hopefully Jason Tatum plays at least a minute before you get back. Yeah, I hope so. This is kind of like a big vacation for Jason Tatum. Yeah, that's true. He's going over France. He's getting an all-expense paid vacation to France. His week has been the exact same as Max's. Yeah. Probably down to how many crepes they've been eating. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Hank. Well, any other last words on Jason Tatum? Good job to Derek White and Jeru Holliday. Yeah. Love those guys. Miss you guys. I miss you guys a lot. Yeah, it was fun seeing you.

You will be part of Mount Rush where we taped those last week. So you'll still hear from Hank. But we had to at least check in on. Oh, and oh, you also turned it off because the aura conversation came back. I don't think I made it that far. Yeah, the aura came. Well, I discussed it.

And let's be honest, given what happened today, He lost a thousand you can't also you guys didn't like His or is that all-time lows right? He was on the bed talking actually no no no no this is where you're wrong, okay? Don't wake the baby. Hank's a father. No, it's his nephew. Double uncle. Double uncle. Double uncle. What's that? I have a niece and nephew.

Oh, wow. It's still just single uncle. One from both. Uncle of two. The clip of him shaking his head and chewing the gum on the bench is like, that's an aura clip. That's a... Okay.

When he drops 40, like when he fucking drops 60 on Steve Kerr's dump the bench is like that's an aura clip. That's a Okay, when he drops 14 like when he like that's a when he fucking drops 60 on Steve Kerr dumbass face next year Alright, so Hank is this is this considered aura when? Trusted Twitter account NBA Central tweets out Jason Tatum passed 300 Gatorade cups to his teammates Breaking the NASA's at a took home Co's record and then Gatorade replies and says, man of the people. And then quick quickly deletes it because it's Jason Tatum is a Gatorade athlete. And it's making fun of Jason Tatum. Yeah, Gatorade fucking sucks, too. I like body armor.

OK, fair point. Yeah, good point. Facts. OK, well, Hank, thank you. And we'll see in a few days. Yes, see you Friday. I'm looking forward to it. Okay, yeah, for the golf. Bye, Hank. Bye, Hank.

Bye. Okay, that was Henry Lockwood, our good friend. And, yeah, Jason Tim did look sad. He looked very sad. And I like to just imagine Hank watching the game and being like, okay, here's support my country. Jason's going to get in soon. Yeah. And then the first quarter's over. Well, Jason's going to get in soon. Yeah. And then the first quarter is over.

Well, Jason's got to get in and start the second quarter. And then at what point do you just, you opt out of the game? I mean, Derek White and Drew Holliday did play well, but it is Jason Tatum. I, I now that Hank is not on, I actually will back him. Like what the fuck is Steve Kerr doing? It was a weird move. Just put them in for five minutes just so that you can, so it's not a story right now. It's a very strange move. And maybe he's going to go with a completely different rotation in game two and have tatum

Play like the entire time and have somebody else sit out for most of the game Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what steve kerr's up to but it would be awesome if steve kerr was just trying to Fuck with the celtics chemistry right now. Yeah, and just piss off their star player it was fun watching this team play because they're just so loaded like Watching lebron throw alley oopsoops to Anthony Edwards is just fun. Yeah, and I loved, LeBron was pissed off today too. We got old school angry LeBron, which is nice to see. And yeah, it made Jokic look human at times.

Although Jokic got whatever he wanted when he was posting up. You can't stop that. And he also is playing with, I think Jovic is on an NBA roster, and he also is playing with you know, I mean there's I think Jovich is on An NBA roster, but there's not like he's not playing with the guys that LeBron's playing Yeah, you think really fair you think you're just gonna stop by the equestrian competition for a while. He's got to check out some horses He's probably living with the horses He's always sleeping in the stables memes was watching it today and he was like getting a little horny about the horses No, the women. Okay

Oh, that's better than I thought. Yeah. Yeah, you're the crazy horse girls memes. Yeah, I found out you could bet on it It's called dressage. Yeah dressage. Oh, that's where the horses do the the Crip walk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Either way the dog was there the Olympics have started. It was a wild opening ceremony that I think they've deleted from the internet because it was getting some backlash. It was weird. The Olympics are, they're very strange about rights though. I know every year they will come at, they shut down Twitter accounts left and right for posting the highlights. Yeah, I'm saying like the actual Olympics, I think they, because the opening ceremonies were, it was basically, uh, watching a boat go by and then, uh, like a fever dream, uh, episode or a Zoolander. That was what it was. There was, it was just

like guys, guys and girls walking up and down a rain drenched runway and then be like, Oh, and there is a Finland. Yeah. It was very strange. Uh, there was that one part where there was a lady that was holding her head. Yeah. And then she started singing and then be like, oh, and there is Finland. Yeah, it was very strange. There was that one part where there was a lady that was holding her head, and then she started singing, and then Gojira, the heavy metal band, started absolutely rocking out. That part was kinda cool. And then they had the blue guy. The blue guy was weird.

Blue guy was weird, then they had the horse in the river, the white horse, that was kinda cool. Then they lit the flame, but it wasn't, yeah, the Olympic flame, but it really wasn't. It was a balloon. It was a balloon that went up in the flame, but it wasn't the yeah the the Olympic flame, but it really wasn't it was Balloons a balloon that went up in the area. They had Rafa Nadal carry the torch Yeah, that was just very bizarre Maybe the most cuck behavior that I've ever seen to have one of your country's rivals Yeah, as like a prominent figure at the very end

It's like wasn't Chicago supposed to get the Olympics we were in the running for these Olympics. Thank God we didn't get him Yes, that would be like having Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, or miss O'Leary's cow gets to get the Olympics? We were in the running for these Olympics. Thank god we didn't get them. Yeah, that would be like having Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Or Miss O'Leary's cow gets to light the torch. Yeah, very, very bizarre. I guess because he is, like, always wins the French Open. Yeah. That's it?

That's it, yeah. French national hero. I guess he is kind of like part of French history. Yeah. Just wins the French Open. I think that maybe that's what it was. Like, Vietnam gets the Olympics. We're going to have Sy Stallone. Yeah, the torch for his work in Rambo. Yeah, that's it was it was I enjoyed it. But it was also very bizarre at times. Then we also had

the picture of LeBron on the boat, which was sick. That was a cool pick. Yeah, it looked like watching crossing the Delaware. Yeah, just leading the leading the charge. Him and was it Coco Goff, right? Coco Goff the other flag bear Yeah, I I get sick of all the countries though. There's too many countries. There's a lot of country Can we make less countries in the world? Well, it's also kind of sucks when you don't have enough athletes you had to share the boat with like three other countries Yeah, that's that was a little bit of a cuck. That's that's really rough. Yeah Okay, what else in the sports world?

We have Okay, what else in the sports world we have? MLB trade deadline is this week hot stove week hot stove week The Yankees made a move the Cubs made a move who are not buyers the Mariners made a move Mariners made a move I feel like I feel like the Mariners could do something. Yeah, they're they've got good pitching. Yeah, they're a good team I mean, they they've never done anything, but they're a good team. They've got good pitching now Yeah, they're a good team. I mean, they've never done anything, but they're a good team. They've got good pitching now. Maybe they have some hitting. Yeah. The Cubs move was very much people are upset because it

looks like they're buyers. They got Paredes from the Rays, who is under contract for three years. So I kind of like it because it's not. It's not a rental. It's not a rent. There's no rentals. If they did a rental, I'd be very upset.

It's trying to build, basically, like, get early into free agency. Yeah. So but yeah, there's we got who jazz is on the Yankees now. Jazz Chisholm. Jazz Chisholm. Yeah. I'm familiar with his name.

I just saw a bunch of Yankees fans being like, he doesn't solve a lot of problems, but his name is really cool. Yeah, there was that. And that is true. Yeah. There was that great, um, do you see that catch in the outfield that wasn't in the Red Sox Yankees game this weekend? No. The dude jumped into the stands, caught the ball. And as he's falling,

the right fielder, as he's falling into the crowd, he bumps his glove on a Yankee fan. The ball drops and it's a home run. Who is fucking wild that is wild have the Mets done anything memes the Mets trade for Jesse Winker okay from the Nationals and then they also got a pitcher who got lit up today Ryan Stanek yeah yeah yeah awesome Riley pimped one yeah and I think the oh Max had his moment where he thought he was getting Mike Trout, which was fun. Yeah.

If Phillies, Jeff Passon tweeted that the Phillies traded their top two prospects to the Angels for help. And it was, I think, just a picture they got. Yeah. Mike Trout, I don't know if he would want to play in Philly. I think he'd want to. He likes football season too much. I think he'd be like, great.

I've been wearing a Phillies jersey underneath my Angels jersey every game. I think he loves Philadelphia, but there's probably something nice to him about just not having to worry about expectations at all. I know what's going to happen, by the way. The Cubs just getting any name, new name in the trade deadline, even though it's not a rental, I'm going to convince myself, oh, they might get hot. You just get in the playoffs. Pitching is good. weird shit happens in the playoffs. Yeah We I forgot to say we so imbeed was the other story from the basketball game and we had max send us a video Cuz he's in

Europe We didn't want to zoom in it's like four in the morning there But we asked max to please address the fact that imbeed sucks. So here's max 4 in the morning there, but we asked Max to please address the fact that Embiid sucks. So here's Max. All right, I'm here in Paris. Embiid may not have had his best game, but I didn't watch it because I was in my French hotel and for some reason they were playing men's French volleyball. So I don't really know what to say. All I can really say is that

You guys said the Moulin Rouge right now? They at least played the game. You got to give someone credit for wanting to go out there and represent the country of the USA. Can't say that about everyone else on the court. Can't say that about everyone else on the court. And he's got to shoot more. And Jokic had a much worse half in the second half than he did in the first half. So there are positives. We can build off this. It's just game one. It's a long tournament and

B will be the elite self that he is. We'll be fine. Jason Tatum sucks. No, we're okay. So it's not really a long term. It's two weeks. But the, this is one of those times BFT where I realize it just pays to be us and such tremendous losers because we're making Hank and Max answer for their players. Hank has three players from his team on the court, but we're making them answer for their players sucking when we wouldn't even come close to even coming close to having a guy on the court. No of our teams So I pointed out I made a meme. I just get he was really awesome for Australia I was I made a meme earlier and it was the the Drake when he was wearing the UK the Kentucky outfit and people said

Bro thinks he's on the team was Jason Tatum just on the sidelines wearing team USA He thinks he's on the team somebody responded to me and they, can you even name your top five wizards in franchise history? And that I thought about it. I was like, this is, this is actually a fair point. It's a good problem to have, I guess. But what we've successfully done is Hank and Max are so beaten down by us going after Tatum's aura, which is a made up thing that doesn't actually exist, but it pisses them off. And then Embiid not winning championships. They're so mad about that, that they just turn on each other and said, right. So Max's whole thing was just like, Jason Tatum wasn't on the court. He has no aura. At least in bead was on the court. Yeah. And Hank's whole thing was at least

he didn't get on the court and embarrass himself like Embiid. So we've done a great job as puppet masters having our little marionettes. Yes. They should turn on us and unite to fight against us, but they're just at each other's throats which is beautiful. We can't let them ever figure out that they could fight against us. No. Because once that day happens, it's like they unionize against us. We're fucked.

Yeah, but they also naturally hate each other. Yeah, they hate each other and I mean it's one of those things that when we, if you just put us in the arena with either of them in a debate it just it falls apart very quickly for them. So there was one other thing about the Olympics that I wanted to make note of and that was do you see the Bob the cap catcher guy. Awesome. Okay so Bob the cap catcher one of the swimmers lost her swim cap. Yes.

In the pool they had to delay the start of the next race because there was a swim cap on the bottom of the pool and The swimmers aren't allowed to get in there and get it out themselves. So they call this random dude out They said he's an Olympic official He comes out wearing a multicolored speedo and he's got I guess dad bod would be a fair way to describe his body Yeah, he doesn't look like an Olympic athlete. He's not in bad shape, but he he's not like he doesn't have an Olympic body Yeah, it's not ch bad shape, but he's not like... He doesn't have an Olympic body. Yeah, he's not chiseled in a marble. And so Bob comes out in a Speedo, dives in, gets the cap, goes to the sideline, holds

it up. The announcers go nuts for him. It was a very cool moment, but then I started to think about it. Are we being played? Why? Should we stay woke on Bob the Cap Catcher? You think he's just a viral moment that they were trying to get? A viral moment planted, or maybe he's working for an advertising firm, and he's

like a mascot of some company. Are they trying to insect us into viral moments? Do they name dudes Bob in France? That's a great point. I think it would just be Robert. It would be Robert. Yeah. Yeah.

There's no way there's anyone in France that's a French national that's Bob. Bob. No, no, it's real Yeah, it would be Robear and they would never dream of shortening to Rob and they had the fucking minions in the opening ceremony Doing advertising work for Disney. Oh By the way Peyton Manning just being on the opening ceremony. That was weird. Yeah, I was just watching is that Peyton Manning's voice? I don't want to share my my football players with the rest of the world. No, they don't get to know about all the cool stuff that we watch that they don't get to watch. I do like the fact the Olympics though because there's so many sports they really have to stretch it thin on announcers.

So you had Peyton Manning, I think Kelly Clarkson was on it. Dwayne Wade did the USA game today. Dwayne Wade, I thought he did a fine job. You don't need a catchphrase for every moment. He was trying to do any, and if he does the, his pronouns are he, him for LeBron one more time, I'm going to put a bullet in my head. It was bad. He's done that so many goddamn times. That part was really bad. He did one, he has one good line and he's like, I'm just going to fucking keep doing

it. I feel like, I feel like they'll get better. They did an okay job No, I thought I like you know as on in totality was fine It's more that like you could tell he's he's trying to do catchphrases on every moment. It's like just it's fine We're good. Yeah, and and no eagle like I don't know how his voice sounds like he's been doing it for 50 years But it's it's insane. Yeah, it's it's a big game voice Yeah And then Mike Mike doing it for 50 years, but it's insane. Yeah, it's a big game voice. Yeah. And then Mike Toreco was doing the opening ceremonies.

To me, that feels like that would be a very hard thing to announce. Yeah. Like all the countries and shit and getting all the timing right. And meanwhile, you feel like you're on acid because you have a horse running across the water. And Peyton Manning and Kelly Clarkson sitting on either side of you. Yeah. They bring out the weirdest celebrities for the Olympics.

Yeah. It's really strange how they go the people with like the the highest Q scores that were super popular ten years ago. Yeah, that's what it is. It is. So, um, yeah, that's the Olympics We'll talk about more Olympics as the games progress. I think we've we already won a gold medal, right? Yeah, we got we got a gold better gold than the 100 meter. Yeah. Yo, Dressel, recurring guest. That's right. Yeah. Great dude.

So was he the guy that we got into the debate with over whether the pool was blue or the water was blue? I believe so. What did we figure out about that? I don't think we got an answer to it. We got to restart that. Oh, here's the medals race. Okay.

USA, number one. Oh, we have three golds. Where did we get all our golds? Did we dominate the Summer Olympics? It's a fucking joke was nice try so hard swimming events. I think it was swimming I think we won oh we won fence. We want a golden fencing shout out Joc. He laid the groundwork Yes, swimming Katie Ledecky finished third though. Yeah, that was that was tough to watch. That's bad Did you see the Taiwanese diver that landed on his back? No. That dude rocks. I got to see that. That's the other thing is like you said, they don't let you share highlights. Yeah. So it's like you can't really

see anything. You just got to be tuned in. Well, that one- I guess that's what they're trying to do, but it would be nice to be able to see some highlights. I think that the US women's rugby could win the gold medal because they've got Alona Mayer who she had two all-time truck stick runs She's like like Lady Rob Gronkowski. That's awesome I think it was like I think it was a top play on SportsCenter tonight, but she's fucking awesome She's just a tank running people over. So maybe we'll get a gold medal from that in rugby I'll count that as just rugby being back if her ladies can get one Olympics are fun Olympics are fun free sports

All right. Wait. Oh, is uh, it was the, was it a Taiwanese or was it, it was the Philip, I think it was a Filipino diver. Yeah. The guy who just like smash his back. Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. That was sick. And then South Sudan won in basketball. Shout out Lou old dang. All day. He's got that program going the right direction.. We gotta play him on Tuesday. Okay. Anything else sports-wise? Reminder again, Takeys are on Wednesday. Great Takeys coming up. 28

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My Who's Back of the Week is Spygate. Oh. But this time it's Canadian. Oh. The Canadian women's soccer team has sent their coach home their assistant coach and technical analyst Have also been sent home. They have been docked six points in the group stage, which is equivalent to two wins So they're out. No, they're not out but but six points is they're gonna be out. They won their first two games Oh, so they're back to zero. So if they win their third game, I think they qualify for the next round. Wow. They have to win all three, but their coach,

it was against New Zealand. So New Zealand is practicing and the coach hears like a, a were in the background. He looks up in the sky. There's a fucking drone there. It's like one of those Ukrainian Russian videos that they forced feed us on Twitter now, but he sees the drone, notifies the people at the Olympics, the officials look into it, they find the footage, it's a Canadian drone, and apparently they've been doing this going back years, back in like World Cups, they've been spygating on people's practices.

Wow. So they got caught, but then now they're on a fuck you tour, and they're beating everybody. So if they win their next game, I'm pretty sure they automatically qualify for the next one. So, this is a dumb question What what do you spy on? For soccer just formations, I guess they're running fast down the field. Yeah, there's a pass to that person this person

It looks like they're really really hurt. Oh, no way. They just got up. They're fine. I guess they're set pieces Yeah, you could spy probably on set pieces and just formations That's probably all you get on it And they've been doing this going back years But it was funny because you could look at Where they were alleged to have used the drone and then the result of the game and they were getting their ass kicked with the drone Oh, so it wasn't like they were actually wasn't working that much from but they still were trying to drone They were getting their Obama on I kind of like that if you're not cheating you're not trying. Yeah, and it's also like I

Don't know soccer drones Just do it. Yeah, I mean I am in favor of trying to get an edge wherever you can yeah, that's very Like very brazen yeah, so like here's a drone over your practice. I hope they don't see it. Yeah Okay, my who's back of the week is Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer's back. I just saw that he has an update to his brew house, Urban Meyer's brew house. He has a Mexican style lager. Do you know the name of it? No. Oh.

Triple A keys? No. Okay. It's called El Lager. El? El Lager. No, E-L.. L L lager. No, EL. That's great. That's great. That sounds like what Budweiser would put on with their can of beers like the NBA does during Hispanic Heritage Month. Yeah, exactly. L lager. Yeah. But here's the kicker PFT. I don't say kick around urban. Yeah, that's true. Um, he took a picture from with I guess his co-owners, some, some gentlemen at his brew house where they sell L Lager.

He's wearing the exact same polo as the famous night and you can't see where his right hand is. So urban Meyer might just be putting his fingers up but butt holes again. Urban Meyer is probably a swinger. Yeah. You remember when he was on that boat ride and he was doing an interview? Oh yeah. That shirtless guy was just walking around in the background? Yeah. He's got his, you can't see where his right hand is and he's taking a picture with four gentlemen and the gentleman to his right has the biggest smile of anyone in the picture. He's getting goose. Yeah. And I don't think that's just the L. Lager talking.

L. Lager. Where is his brew house? I think it's in Columbus. I might have to stop by. The Lager. I'm going to be in Columbus on Friday. I'm going to do a little fact finding tour. Just do an L. Lager review.

I'll do a beer review of L. Lager. I just love it. It's like the laziest name you could come up with. L. Also, the fact that you're calling it L is just red meat for Michigan fans. Oh, yeah. Huey, your Who's Back of the Week. My Who's Back? Swimming rivalries.

Oh. I feel like we haven't had a good swimming rivalry since Michael Falk days and Ryan Lochte. Who could forget Ian Crocker? Chad LaCroix? Yeah, the Thorpedo. Yeah, Ian Thorpe. Yeah, so now Katie Ledecky's having a couple of rivalries

that have just beat her in the 400 meter. Arianne Titness, it's like Crispus but for tits, from Australia, she's the Aussie. She won the 400 meter by three full seconds, which- That seems like a long time. Yeah, it's not nothing. It's not nothing. Now, Katie Ledecky is still favored in the 400 meter by three full seconds. That seems like a long time. Yeah, it's not nothing. It's not nothing. Now, Katie Ledecky is still favored in the 800 meter out of minus 400 and favored in

the 1500 meter out of minus 3500, but three seconds is three seconds. That could be another 100 meters. I'm just going to say I am a fan of Ariane Titmuss. Titmuss. Yeah, the Aussie. I got a take I'll throw out there about swimming. Hit-Miss. Hit-Miss. Yeah. The Aussie. Oh, wait, oh, wait. I got a take. I'll throw out there about swimming.

Michael Phelps ruined swimming for me, personally. Why? That's great. Because he was so goddamn dominant that, and it happened so recently, that I'm watching swimming and I'm like, well, Phelps would have beaten all these guys. Yeah. Is he, do they do the line where it's like, here's where Phelps would have been? They should, because it's like, you know what I mean?

We saw it so recently, him just dominate everyone every single year, year after year, and then to watch it now. They're still incredible athletes, but it's like, Michael Phelps is in the studio right now. He probably could get in the pool and beat all of you right this second if he wanted to. If he had grown up in this era. Yeah. With this technology.

Do you have any? I think it needs to be, there just needs to be more time or someone needs to start breaking Phelps record for me to feel like, oh wow, this is incredible. We're watching because every time I just watch a, maybe there have been records broken of his but I just watched it and I'm like, Phelps would have fucking killed him. Do we have any good Olympic controversies? It feels like every time there's there's like a summer Olympic Games There's a controversy about like a new suit somebody's wearing or about like a new a new bike helmet

No, and then they go back and they're like do these records even count because this water was faster. Yeah, I don't I don't know Yeah, there's a springy track. Yeah the springy track. I learned one the other day. That's pretty fun in the Tour de France There's a thing called sticky bottles. Have you ever heard this? No. So this is like a big cheating thing. There was a guy basically, as angry as the Tour de France can get, that's what it was. He confronted a competitor and said, you sticky bottled that. It's when the car passes a bottle to the guy who's biking

and the guy who's biking holds onto the bottle for like an extra beat and gets driven by the car. Because the guy that's taking the water back is pulling him in the car. Correct. So like they'll pass the bottle out like this, and they'll grab it and basically use the push off. That's smart. Yeah, sticky bottles. I don't know, it was just a fun controversy I learned about.

Can you draft the car? Can you accidentally swerve in front of the car and let it hit you lightly from behind? I don't think you can do that. Nudge you up a little bit? But I would sticky bottle the fuck out of the Tour de France. Yeah, that's just a good idea. I don't blame the cyclists at all.

At least they're not using steroids anymore. Well, and they also, the best part about the confrontation that I watched, it wasn't in English, but I saw someone explained it. One guy was like, you sticky bottled. And then the other guy was being accused like, where do you think I learned it? Basically being like, you're the sticky bottle master. Yeah, it takes one to know one. Yeah, I saw you do it first. I do love cyclist fights too. Have you ever seen when they actually like try to throw hands? Yeah, it doesn't work. It's not, it's not really a fight.

They're in the realm of athletes that as soon as they get in a fight, they just start to try to kick. Yeah. And you know that that's just. You do like a, yeah, like a flying leg kick because then you know at least the fights over after you do that because somebody will jump on you on the ground and cover you up. Yeah. All right.

Good job, Huey. Memes, you got a Hue's back? Sure. Robert Downey Jr. Oh, yeah. He is playing Dr. Doom. OK, so first of all, insult stat that I saw was very mean. They were like Robert Downey Jr. between the time he was announced as Iron Man and the time

he was announced as Dr. Doom. The Bears only won one playoff game. That was mean of that person. I don't even know what that time frame is. When was Robert Downey Jr.? Well, I do know the time he was announced as Dr. Doom, the Bears only won one playoff game. That was mean of that person. I don't even know what that time frame is. When was Robert down here? Well, I do know the time frame, because I know how many Bears playoff. It was like 2006.

Yeah, it was after they've won one game. But explain this to me, memes and PFT. He was Iron Man. Yes. Is he now Dr. Doom in the same universe? So like wouldn't the characters say, Hey dude, aren't you Tony Stark? Yeah. So the last Avengers movie, there was the next phase of Marvel, which was the multiverse where they could go into different, there's different versions of each character in different universes now the person the bad guy they made the entire plot around like dozens of movie beat his

girlfriend so now he's out and Robert Downey jr. for the record has never done anything wrong not recently not since he's been Iron Man. OK, OK, got it. That's a funny little wrinkle there. Did Marvel just trick America into doing Greek mythology? Because I feel like this is our version of Greek mythology, right? 2,000 years from now, there'll be a society

and they're going to unearth all these old Marvel movies and be like, this is what Americans believed in. They thought that there was a giant dude that snapped its fingers and would kill everybody. And then Ant-Man will be like the weird question, no one gets right. Yeah. I just love that there's an Ant-Man. They made a movie.

Paul Rudd, right? Yeah, didn't he fly up some dude's butt and explode? I don't know what to say. The minute I saw Ant-Man, I was like, this has gone too far. All right, so I can see fifth graders in like the year 4000 studying Marvel and being like, this is what

Americans believe. This is what they were up to. I actually might start, because we talked about it on that Mountain Rush for things we hadn't seen. I've never seen a Marvel movie. I might start with Ant-Man. And just go from there. Go straight from Ant-Man?

Go to Ant-Man. All right, so back to Doctor Doom, who is so original Doctor Doom, got in trouble. Robert Downey Jr. squeaky clean. He takes over Dr. Doom, but again, won't people be like, dude, wasn't that Tony Stark? Yeah, so there's, the prediction is that he is, this is an alternate universe Tony Stark, who's a bad Iron Man, that's Dr. Doom. Oh, it's like twin brothers.

So he still is Iron Man? Yes, pretty much. Who is dr. doom dr. doom is he related to big justice the doom and boom guys no afraid not he is the bad guy in Fantastic Four okay okay so what does he do no relation the Rizzler no relation okay does he have does he have any powers he's just a badass made out of metal. Okay. And people are excited about this, right?

Yeah, people are pumped. I'm excited about this too. Can't wait. Because they scrapped everything and then they brought back Robert Downey Jr., the Russo Brothers are directing it, who directed the last two Avengers. Everything's been bad up until this point. Wait, it's gone bad? Yeah, this last phase of Marvel has been very bad.

Well, did they run out of source material are they still using like the comic books? They're kind of using the comic books, but they dove into the the multiverse, which has just gotten very confusing And now they're trying to bring it all back and save it Got it. Okay. I Can't wait for dr. Doom. I'm fucking jazzed. Yeah, Dr. Doom slash Tony Stark Okay, thanks meme I'm excited. I'm excited to not watch it, but I'm excited for other people to be excited. Were people excited people are pumped He got a big pop. He did

Okay, I'm excited for people to watch it and then be pissed off about it because I thought it would be good and then it's Not good. Yeah, that's always my bad. I want people to complain about the casting of a movie. I'm excited. That's the best I'm excited to see people pissed off walking out of movie theaters being like that was not a realistic portrayal of dr Doom. Yeah, isn't there a Bob Dylan biopic coming out people are pissed about that one who's playing them. I That's why people are pissed wait what who would be the person that would piss off the most people playing Robert Pattinson? No, it's um, it's one of the new guys the new Timothy Chalamet. Okay. Yeah This is pop culture with PMT We got our finger on the pulse, baby

I need my kids start fucking watching shit that it like they can actually help me like be cool again Like Marvel stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's too confusing for me. It's way too confusing. After I missed the first like five movies, I was like, I'm just not going to do this. We should have Robbie just make us a big chart. If I could see a chart, I think it would help. But there's been so many movies.

There's a timeline of movies when they came out. I also need to see. We should sneak attack everyone and just go into a bunker and watch every single one one and then just come out And just start heavy heavy drops of like, you know, oh, it's like this time in this movie Yeah, yeah, what the fuck just happened. I've been doing that for the last three episodes. I've been dropping Godfather quotes Yeah, yeah, I still haven't seen it. But you know, I've been looking up the quotes. Yeah. Yeah Okay seen it. But I've been looking up the quotes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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OK, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is our Chill Week interviews presented by Coors Light and Chevy Silverado. It is NFL Hall of Famer, John Elway, living legend. I got to tell you this, John, just to start. We've been doing this for eight years now. We've had a ton of different guys come through and great interviews. You're up there with like maybe a little nerves because you are such a living

legend. Do you realize how much of a living legend you are? No, I'm still looking out from these same eyes as I did my whole life. So no, I think that I was happy to be able to play as long as I played and very, very fortunate. But no, I think that you know, I was happy to be able to play as long as I played and and fortunate very very fortunate and but No, I still looking out the same eyes and so enjoying life and you know glad to be here with you guys Yeah, I think we'd big cats get out too And at least for me is growing up when I fell in love with football you were football

Yeah, you were a huge part of the NFL and so those formative years where we fell in love with the game That was John Elwood. Yeah, I was watching John Elway comebacks. Children of the 90s. Unfortunately that's a long time ago but you know it's it was a lot of fun while I played you know we had played in a great era you know Danny Marino, Jim Kelly, you know Warren Moon all those guys it was Joe Montana so I mean we had a you know a bevy of great quarterbacks back then it was really a special times to play you know obviously they're making a heck of a lot more money now, but I'm not sure I would trade that I really trade I really enjoyed playing the time when I played and with the guys I played with well

Have you ever thought about like today's day and age in the NFL guys are passing for such insane numbers What your numbers would have looked like? It would have been crazy. Not only that I think no I look at how they get protected now They get back to the heck of a lot more now than we did back when we played. So I think I'd enjoy that even probably more than the money and maybe played a little bit longer. Yeah.

The game has just kept growing and growing and the players and athletes are getting so good now. And so with the offenses opening up and the protection, rules that they're putting in to protect some of the players is I think is all a good thing. But you know, it just continues to keep growing and growing. Yeah. So PFT mentioned us falling in love with football in the nineties. When did you fall in love with football? I know you're son of a coach, so you were around it your whole life, but when was the first moment where you're like, this is the sport I love?

Because obviously we were talking about it, your baseball, you you're an incredible baseball player but when was it football? You know when I was younger you know I because my dad was a coach like you said so we kind of bounced around I lived in Missoula Montana when I was like first through fifth grade so I didn't start playing I played baseball and basketball a lot tackle football didn't start until I was in the fifth grade I played one year fifth grade in Missoula Montana was a running back and And then we moved from there to Pullman, Washington, at Washington State. And they really didn't have, Pullman's not big enough

to have a really a youth football program. And so I didn't play a game until the ninth grade. Excuse me. So really my favorite sport when I was younger was basketball. Really? Yeah, I love playing basketball. I'm sure you were great at that too. I could shoot, but I slowed down fast.

And then, you know, but, and then, you know, baseball was a big part of that too. And so then that got fired at Washington state. We moved down to Southern California and in the San Fernando Valley, I went to Granada Hills High School and the coach there, his name was Jack Neumeyer was kind of, the offense was wide open.

He spread the field with five wides and threw the ball every down. And so really when you talk about when I first fell in love with football was my 10th grade year, when I started to, you know, playing quarterback. I played ninth grade year in Pullman, which was a single wing handed the ball off. So it wasn't a whole lot of fun. Yeah. But then when I got down to California, we started throwing the football all over the place. And that's when that's when, you know, I started loving football started saying, I read a very funny story that in your ninth grade Year when you showed up for the first day of practice your dad in the car said what position are you gonna play?

And you said running back and he was like you're not as fast as you used to be which is an insane thing to say to a 13 year old Old Chevy Impala and we pulled up an exact that's exactly what he said What position you're going out for today said a runner back and the car went into park and 15 minutes later when I got out of the car I was a quarterback that was one of that was one of the comments was the fact is hey listen you're slowing down a little bit I think you know you're probably better off trying to play some quarterback I think you're at a better position for you so that's I mean it's just I guess that speaks to your relationship with your dad. The honesty was there that he could be like, you're not that fast.

How fast were you at 12? Yeah, I could, you know, when I was younger, I was faster than everybody, but then everybody caught up, right? Especially when you start growing, you know, they start catching up to you. So, you know, and he had a good feel for it and I respected them so much. So sure enough, I went out for quarterback and you know, that's one of those forks in the roads. You know, if he the thing is, they get fired Washington State. And he's in he went for the head job. Because he graduated from Washington State went to school there with undergrad. And so, and he was the runner up for the job. And

thank God, he didn't get that job. Otherwise, I'd probably been a baseball player. And yeah, because the high school ran the single wing. And so it would never been exposed to what I got exposed to when we went down to Southern California in football. Wow. Probably a good choice so when you're playing quarterback you're obviously you've got you had great wheels you were still fast even at 13, 14, 15 years old. I was as fast as I needed to be. Yeah, yes. But I feel like in that era coaches were more hesitant to have their quarterbacks run around out there.

Maybe it's different in high school, where they said, OK, if you see a play, go make a play. Did you ever have a coach, whether it be in high school or in college, that was like, hey, John, stop running the ball so much, you're going to get hurt? No, I think that they said be smart, and the fact that that was part of my game. I like to move around and try to make some plays if I had to.

And if protection broke down, then I like to get outside and do those type of things. But, you know, they always, you know, impressed on me that say, listen, get out there and do what you want to do, but just be safe and take care of yourself. And so, you know, and back in those days, you know, you could go feet first, right? I never went feet first, because I always felt more wide open to a hit, you know, a late hit or a cheap hit, you know, a cheap shot that, you know, knocked me out with me just being exposed like that. So I always try to go down and just use my head and my shoulders and felt more protected. Plus going down feet first, I've always figured

you lost like three yards comparing to go going head first. I just go for their feet and do it that way. Yeah, I mean, one of the most iconic in NFL history is the helicopter in the Super Bowl against the Packers How many times did you let me first say when you that play is happening? We like this is gonna I'm gonna get fucking crushed It was three Packers coming at you and you're like, I'm just going headfirst you know that it's funny story about that play it was third and six and and We'd run that play all week in practice and I told Mike Shanahan and Gary Kubiak, who's the offensive coordinator, and I'm like, it was set up for a certain defense.

And I really didn't like the play in practice, but we kept running it. I kept telling Mike, I really don't like that play. And finally came to me to say, John, against this formation, in this situation, it's 100% we're gonna get this coverage. I said, okay, great. And I think it was both corners had to be bombed, safety over the middle, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah,. I said, okay, great. You know, and I think it was both corners had to be bombed, safety over the middle, da da da da. I can't remember exactly how it was set up, but sure enough, I walked in a line of scrimmage and they're not in that defense. So I know I've got nothing. So I just really kind of dropped back and tried to find a seam, get outside,

try to make a play. And I looked for the first down marker and they kind of stayed back. And I said, all right, I'm going to turn this, turn this thing up and see how far I can get. And, and then I said, all right, well, I think they think I'm going down low. So I put the big old six inch vertical on them and written right over that. Do you remember like in being in Airbnb and like, Whoa, cause I got discombobulated cause I got spun around. And the one thing I do remember is I looked to our sideline and our whole sideline was going nuts. And so the adrenaline rush that came from that was,

I still get chills when I, yeah, it was one of the coolest plays ever. Yeah. A lot of people think it was for touchdown. It's not, it was just for a first down. We ended up scoring on that drive, but obviously with where that game ended up, it was a pivotal, pivotal play. You should get like, you should get residual checks too, because I feel like the NFL uses it in every highlight package for the next 20 years. That would be nice if they had

personally. Unfortunately, they don't have those yet. Yeah, it was a it was a great game. I remember those two Super Bowls and one of the key parts of your offensive line good friend of ours, Mark Schlereth comes on the show a lot. He was actually my little league baseball coach. Oh, really? Yes, because he was in DC, then he went out to Colorado. So you signed this, you know, good free agent guard coming out from Washington, Super Bowl champion comes out there, you're probably excited to have a great player in your office line. But was there a small party that was like, why does this guy just piss on himself? It stinks. This guy just smells. I was just really wasn't a center. Yeah,

because I'd had to put my hand underneath them. But yeah, I mean, that was that was, you know, that's probably why I got the name stink too, because of the fact that, you know, you would do that. But yeah, it was, too, because of the fact that he would do that. But yeah, it was always amazing to me that he would do that. We always stayed away from him. Weirdest segue ever, but we're saying the word stink. I read that you also, the only sport you ever quit, was wrestling in eighth grade because you wrestled against a kid who smelled really bad.

He smelled really bad. So how bad did he smell? It was bad. You know, because. So how bad did he smell? It was bad. Because my dad always said, once you start something, you got to finish it. So he'd never let me quit anything. And he tried to say, I don't think you ought to do this,

but no, dad, I want to do it. Then I'd get in and realize he was right again. But I had to finish it. And he wasn't a big fan of wrestling either. But yeah, I had to practice against him every day. It wasn't like we were in matches against him. It was like, I had to wrestle against him every single day. So he finally loved me and he didn't, he smelled really bad.

To where I was gagging, I'm like, dad, I'm gagging. I got, I can't do this. You gotta let me. And you told your dad that you're like, listen, it's not that I like, I'm not tough enough for it. It's like, this kid just smells so bad. I can't do it. I gag when I went practicing. I can't do it anymore. He said, all right, this is the one time I'm gonna let you do it. It's like this kid just smells so bad. I can't I gag when I went practicing. I can't do it anymore. This is the

one time I'm gonna let you do it. That's incredible. You could have gained 10 pounds been outside his weight class. You don't have to wrestle. We're the only two biggest guys in the class. So that's why I was stuck with him. The other guys were a little small guys and so we couldn't. That's incredible. So we're talking about your Super Bowls. The crazy part about your career is you know, in sports media, there's the whole can't win the big one. You go to three Super Bowls early in your career and

then it's eight year gap till you win two to end your career. Storybook ending. Like I think when everyone thinks about like what they want to do to end their career, it's John Elway. That's what you think of back-to-back Super Bowls. But in that progression, was there ever a moment where you're like, maybe I'm not gonna win the big one? Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of time in there. I think obviously we had really good teams in the 80s. We weren't good enough. You gotta be really, really good to win a championship.

And I think I found that difference out when we finally won one in the late 90s compared to what we were in the 80s. But yeah, there was a time in those eight years where it kind of changed in coaches. Dan Reeves left and I think Wade Phillips came in and Was there for a couple years and Mike Shanhand ended up coming back and so but there was a dry spell there You know, we're about 500 we're still making the playoffs

But you know didn't have a chance to really compete for a championship and then when Mike came back in 95 You know turn things around trail Davis We drafted trail Davis that year Mike was you know run know, run based on run with, you know, with play action off that and then real good in the past game. So we had a good year in 95, 95 and then 96. Yeah. We had a really good team.

We had the number one seed wrapped up. We're playing Jacksonville. Jacksonville has come to Denver and you know, that we thought, you know, that was the year I'm going, you know, we got a chance to win this. And then we ended up getting beat by Jacksonville upset in the first round. And so I think that was most devastating loss

other than the Super Bowl losses. And then at that point in time, you start wondering, well, what's it going to take? And I know at that point in time, I was 36 years old. And so I was running out of time. And so whether we're going to ever be able to get back. But fortunately, we came back and kind of used that the next year as incentive.

Yeah, we went through the hard way, right? Cuz Kansas City won the division. We went in as wild card really, so Jacksonville came in the next year, we're gonna have a shot at them. And then we had to go to Kansas City and Pittsburgh to get back. And then we're playing the Packers that were defending champs, we're 14 point underdogs and we're going to that game. I can remember getting on the plane that we're leaving Pitchford

going back to Denver and I get I get on the plane going back and I call my mom I said mom can you believe we'd get a chance to go back to be world champions to get them there's a long pause and she finally says do we really have to go back to the Super Bowl again yeah it was not good memories the first three times. So do you think the Jaguars, because I've watched some of the NFL film stuff about those Broncos teams. And it feels like that Jaguars loss was almost the reason why you guys were

able to get over the hump the next two years, because it was a game that you should have won. You guys were way better and maybe didn't take them as seriously as you should have. And that's like the last piece of a championship team. Yeah, yeah, there's no question that added a lot. I think that it was stuck in everybody's crowd for the next year.

And so there's no question that, that, and plus even going back into the next year, and then in 98 when we came back after the Packer game, we knew we were a really good football team. And if we, and our attitude was always, if we just go play like we're capable of, we're going to beat everybody. And that's really fun to be on a team like that, especially to have a running game like we had,

and played really good defense. And so that's what happened in 98. We were really good in 98, 13 and 0 until we got beat by the Giants in week 14, I think. And so on a late bomb, I can't remember who it was, but you know, but so then we go to Miami, get killed down there, bounce back and then get to the playoffs. Yeah. So you mentioned the point spread, 14 points at Super Bowl.

That's a big, big point spread. It really was like you, it must've felt like you against the world. Did you guys use that as motivation? Like Vegas doesn't believe in us? We did. And I, but you know what I also think I think because of the what would the the trek we made through the playoffs having to go to Kansas City and having to go to Pittsburgh two really tough places to play I think really you know

hardened us and we knew that again the Packers were really good and but if we go out and play like we're capable of and Mike did a great job Gary with the with the game plan because we it was a mismatch for us, our white outs against their secondary. They were really good in the secondary. And so, you know, Mike went in and said, hey, listen, we got to run the football against these guys to be able to win it. Leroy Butler was their strong safety at the time.

And he always wreaked havoc inside as a free safety, kind of roamed and did a lot of different things and caused a lot of mischief in there. And so we were able to kind of formation him out of that situation and allowed us to run the football. And Terrell had a great game. The offensive line up front was tremendous. This wore those guys down. They actually put one extra D lineman down before the game. And so we get into the fourth quarter and we knew we were in pretty good shape when the game was close. Yeah. They had Big Gilbert Brown, right? It was like one and a half defensive linemen.

Exactly. They had like six on the line at that point. Yeah. But I don't think it could take three steps forward in that fourth quarter He was so tired. Yeah Like the the hostile environments like going to Kansas City, I just watched a clip I didn't know that you used to be able to tell the referees to quiet the crowd noise down Yeah, like when you were backed up in the end zone at Arrowhead, right? You would tell the refs Hey, they're being too loud

Then the refs would get on the PA and say you guys need to shut up or else it's gonna be penalty against the Chiefs Yeah, when did that stop that stop the next year because it didn't work very good We just get mad about it so and you know And then you got TV worried about how much time they're taking because they want the game to fit in a three-hour window, right? So I remember standing in Kansas City one time for like three minutes just waiting for them to, you know, and soon as the referee says be quiet, they're going, they get louder. Right? So that was in I think for one year and then kind of got got out of that. So yeah, that's quite a big rule change. Yeah, I can't imagine that didn't work. So yeah, I went back. So it was always Kansas City was always

a tough, tough place to go. It was always very loud, same as it is now. And so this might be a tough question, but how, how, how mad were you that you had to present the Lombardi trophy to the chiefs this year? You know, I wasn't mad. You know, the thing is I was, I really, I was pulling for Johnny Lynch, who's a, you know, a good buddy is a gym with the Niners and then Kyle obviously was, you know, running around our practices all the time when he was younger and, and when Mike

was with, with the Broncos. And so, you know, just the infinity for those guys. And they'd been there before and lost one. And so I was really pulling for them, it was such a tight game. But you look at Kansas City, Andy Reid and Patrick. I think to me Andy Reid is kind of one of the unsung heroes as far as a head coach and the credit that he gets being a head coach. Because he's had a tremendous amount of success everywhere he's been.

And I think we see that with Kansas City now, especially with Patrick and what he's done with Patrick. He's really taken advantage of what he does best. Yeah, it was a Raiders fan's worst nightmare. It was in the Raiders stadium, and it was the Chiefs, who they are rivals with, and then you were there. It was basically every bad thing that could ever happen to the Raiders.

It was just all in one spot. You just had to watch it all. Yeah. Exactly. I mentioned you're a living legend, which you are. I think the craziest part is you are part of two of the most iconic moments drive in football history, so much so that they're just called the play and the drive. So I wanted to talk about both of them, the play, the band on the field.

Have you gotten to a point now where you can be like, that actually was pretty funny? Like it's crazy. You know, I need, we're talking about the play just to be, Stanford, it was actually, people didn't realize it was my last college game. Yeah. You know, and a lot of people didn't realize

he even played in that game, but you know, it was, you know, it was obviously very, at that time, very disappointing because we thought we were going to a bowl game and you know, we were going to be, if we'd won that game, it would have been six and five and had a chance to get to a bowl game. We hadn't been to a bowl game and it's not in today's world where there's so many different bowls and you know, a lot of different options. And so we're all excited, you know, making that comeback.

We picked up a fourth and 17, just the drive to get us back to where we kicked the field to go ahead, I think, you know, and then there's then there's eight seconds left on the clock and then chaos breaks out. But it was funny. So I was, I got to play something quarterly in Idaho. And so we went out to lunch and we're at this place called One Shot Charlie's. And I sit down and there's this older gentleman sitting next to me. And he taps me, he goes, hey, we start talking. He says, we have something in common.

I said, we do? He goes, yeah. He goes, I was the umpire for the play. And I looked at him common I said we do he goes yeah he goes I was the umpire for the play and I liked him I said so is your fault. Son of a bitch. So it was funny that that you know what is it 45 years later now and you know to see the umpire again was it was kind of fun you know that was one of those plays that very disappointing at the time but like you said you know you see it every Thanksgiving and so now yeah, there's no question. We've done a lot of different things on it too.

So yeah, you look back on it and now you just say, you know, I'm kind of glad to be a part of it. Yeah. It's objectively kind of funny that this actually happened. It's such an insane thing to happen that you can't even believe it. Even when you watch a replay, knowing what's going to happen, you're like, wait, well, there's the tuba player. What's going on? Right. And the funny thing is for a week I was hoping that they were going to turn that thing over. We held on for a week, right? Oh yeah, they're going to come back and they're going to figure out a way to turn this thing around. But 45 years later it has not been turned around.

It is crazy that they just allowed the marching band to go onto the field. Like forget about turning over a week later. Like that should, one second later. I might be questioned all the time I've asked I said what if the trombone player was on the ten yard line and the guy ran over him with the ball had Gone down. Yeah Trombone player get the tackle. Yeah, I guess the tackle now now do they call that a touchdown or what? You know, what is the rule there? I still that's a question. I've never got answered. Yeah Saxophone player forces a fumble

And then you guys get the ball, return it. Maybe. What happens then? There's no way to know in that moment that like, you know, you're on the sideline, future John Elway comes down and talks to President John Elway. Don't worry. You're going to look back at this and it'll be an iconic moment in football history. Yeah.

Yeah, you'll be fine. I'm not sure I would have believed you at that point in time. But then you had the drive, like I said, being part of the play and the drive, I mean, how often, I think this is a stupid question, but I'm always very curious, guys who played in the league and had such incredible success, how often does your mind wander just back to that, to the drive? You know, a lot, because it comes on, you know, every anniversary it's on there a lot, so you know, I still enjoy watching it, you know, and it's kind of funny that

that was in my fourth year, you know, in my first year, my rookie year, struggled a little bit. And, you know, so I was up and down, you know, things kept getting better as time. But that was kind of my coming out party when we were able to do that in the situation we were in Cleveland and get it into overtime and then eventually went into overtime. And so, but those are the type of things, like you said, memories, be able to look back and really the older you get, the more you kind of appreciate it. Yeah.

And you know, so because the memories are so great and, and you know, proud to be part of it. Yeah. Yeah. You drive. Wouldn't that 98 yards? 98 yards. 98 yards. 98 yards.

And with what, five minutes left? Five minutes to go. Yeah. And so, you know, picked up a couple of four downs and, you know, and the thing is that game, we, you know, Cleveland was a really good football team. They're really good on defense. We hadn't had a lot of success all day on, on offense, but only scoring 13 points up

to that point in time. So to go 98 against them and five minutes to go, you know, we started making some plays. And the thing is about that drive, we just started trying to get some first downs, get some breathing room, right? Take it one bit at a time. And then you could hear in the stadium was loud. And then you could just hear the stadium getting quieter, quieter, quieter, quieter.

And you can feel the momentum switch. And so then we got it going. And we were able to make those plays. And then really went into overtime, which people forget that we still had to go into overtime and win it. It is an all time moment listening to a crowd when a drive like that happens. And you can feel that they have the energy at the start and then it slowly just

Goes away where you like even on third down you can hear them trying to bring it back to that energy Right, but you know you kind of have right? Yeah, you know and that's the thing is you almost enjoy Stadiums getting quieter then you do at home when they get louder. Yeah, you notice it more when you're on the road to getting quieter Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's a good point. There is that very sad third down cheer. You know, like, we're trying again. You've got, like, if you've gotten two fourth down conversions on the same drive, then it's third down again. Then it's just like, OK, we're going to try.

Yeah. But you know that you've got them when they got that sad level of volume in the stands. It's hard to get that back. We're going to get back to John Elway in a second. He's being brought to you by Catalyst Fitness. We might be in trouble. I think Hank might have a chance to dunk.

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You were talking about some of the guys in that draft class. Did you have like a ongoing rivalry at whether it was someone that you communicated to those other guys or just something that you kept track of in your head where you're always competing against the guys that were drafted in your same class? Yeah, I mean, I think there was, there's no question there's always a competition with us, you know, and I think especially with you look, you know, coming out and Jimmy went to the USFL to start with Kelly.

He was in Houston for a couple of years before he went to Buffalo, but Dan was down in Miami and you know, the big thing is he was the last player picked of those six quarterbacks that year. And so, and then Danny came out his second year and threw for 5,000 yards, right? Went to the Super Bowl. And actually they played it at Stanford Stadium. Yeah.

And that year we got beaten the first round. We had the home field that year too, my second year, and got beaten the first round there. But I think after that point in time, it was really kind of chasing Danny because Danny was having so much success down in Miami. And then Jim went, you know, when he came back and went up to Buffalo, you know, they opened it up and had that red gun, I think they call it. We're throwing it all over the place.

We were a little bit with Dan, we were a little bit more conservative and, you know, run, you know, run the ball and throw it when we needed to. But, um, you know, we're, we were winning football games, you know, and you couldn't can't argue when you're winning football games. And so, and then able to get to those three out of four it when we needed to. But we were winning football games. Yeah. And you couldn't argue when you're winning football games. And so, and then able to get to those three out of four years, we got to the Super Bowls and unfortunately didn't win them. But we're able to get there. Yeah.

So in that draft, obviously the famous, you're going to maybe go play baseball if the Colts do take you, but if they decide to keep you, was there ever a moment that you were nervous that like, maybe I'm bluffing? Like, cause you love football and if they just say, hey, we're willing to burn a pick here, were you willing to be like, I'm done with football,

I'm going to play baseball? Well, my plan was really to go play baseball for a year. Cause I had signed with the Yankees after my sophomore year, doing my junior and senior year, I played in my minor league baseball up in Oneonta, New York for the Yankees. And so I was in a contract with the Yankees. And so my plan was to go play baseball for a year, then my name would have gone back in the draft the next year. Got it.

Right. So they lose. So the coach would have lost the rights to me the next year. My name would have gone back into the draft. So that was the worst scenario. But I wanted to play football. Right. And you know, and so you thought there was going to be a trade done before the draft. And I really thought I was going to the Raiders. Really?

That night before, it was through Chicago. And so and then I think with Al Davis at the time was I think soon it was in a lawsuit with the NFL. Yeah. And him and Pete Rosell didn't get along very well. So rumor has it that Pete kind of got involved, got to hold the Finks in Chicago and said, you can't let this go through.

And so then that trade fell through. And so then the Colts kind of got stuck and ended up taking me. And so. Yeah, when they said your name, did you know that you were like, they were already back channeling that you're not gonna be,

or were you like, shit, they did take me? No, we knew, I knew it by then, right? It wasn't back then when we got, we'd go go we were down and we rented a suite with all the guys that were gonna get drafted and watch the draft and you know Ken all got together and did it that way and so I was a constant contract contact with my agent all the time and so I knew once we got close to the draft that the Colts were gonna take me so yeah and you turned out to be correct because they moved the Colts moved right now. The next year. So you were you were kind of indicated. That's what I kept trying to

say. It's like nothing against Baltimore. I had never been to Baltimore. It really was nothing against Baltimore. But it was the franchise franchise and where they were and you know, they'd drafted Schlichter a couple years before and so it was just, you know, didn't feel like it was a great and having the the the leverage with baseball, you know, and really my dad was one that was, that led this whole charge. And he was smart enough to do it at 22.

I was not the one that was going to lead that charge, but he wanted to get me in a situation that was going to allow me, you know, to be the best player that I could be with a good organization that thought I had a chance with. And then years later you get, you get Peyton Manning from the Colts. You're like, they must hate you in it. Yeah, well, fortunately that yeah, they let him go. So they were more mad at the organization that allowed us to get him. Yeah, was there ever any thought of playing both? No, no, I didn't, you know, I spent so much time at, you know, at football. And I was I was a better football

player than I was a baseball player, just because of of the, you know, the amount of time I spent at it. You know, I always, I went to college roommates, both of them had really good major league careers, you know, so I think I could add a good major league career, but I don't know that it would have been at the level that I had with when playing football. Yeah. Cause it didn't, the story goes that George Steinbrenner said that he would, you were going to be the starting right fielder by like 85. Right. Yeah. And that's pretty cool. That's really cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but like I said, I really wanted to play football. I love

playing the quarterback position and felt I was a better quarterback than I was an outfielder. And so, um, well thank you for playing football because it would, it just wouldn't have hit the same way. Baseball player like, you know, career, like two 80 hitter, which would have been great, but right. Like no John always a lot of those, right. Right. So, but yeah, career like 280 hitter, which would have been great. But like, no, John, I was a lot of players. Yeah, right. Right. Right. So, but yeah, it worked out great. And thank God they traded me to Denver and Denver. Denver was really never on the list of, you know, we were talking to different

teams before the draft of where I might go. San Diego was in it, but because they had three first, but they were really trying to get Fouts signed. Fouts was a free agent at that time. And so they didn't have free agency, but not under contract. And so they kind of use that leverage to get Dan signed. So that kind of ended San Diego's, you know, Seattle was a possibility, New England. So yeah, and then Denver was kind of, we asked Denver, they said, no, yeah, I didn't sit early. And then they came

back late. So it all worked out, worked out. Yeah. As an executive, we noticed that you had a type in quarterbacks. What's the shortest a quarterback can be in your opinion? Because you really do like them tall. Yeah. Well, yeah, I went tall. Yeah. We would see a tall guy like that's John always next quarter. Did you see big cat? He's like six, three. Yeah. Like I can work with this guy. You go. Not bad. Right. But yeah, I know it. But yeah, I think there's a limit that's too tall, too, right? Well, not really. You gave Brock Osweiler a contract.

That's just not true. You went to the tallest. And in 2015, when we won Super Bowl 50, Brock came in and played seven games for us and played really well. That's true. So you were indicated there. Yeah.

But I don't think, yeah, especially in today's game, you know, with, especially with the way they're protecting the quarterbacks and those type things, I don't think you have to be nearly as tall as you used to have to be. And you know, I, I believe that, you know, as a quarterback, it's great if you have the ability to move around and extend plays and make plays. That's huge to be able to get out and run around the pocket. But I still believe that, and I learned this is that to win Super Bowls, you have to have a quarterback that can win it from the pocket.

Yeah. You gotta be able to have the guys that can win it from the pocket because they're too good. You look at one Super Bowl that Kansas City lost to Tampa. Tampa put pressure on him with four guys, right? And they had seven back there and got him running early. And so, and then that's when Tampa was able to beat him. So I think that when you think about quarterbacks, I still believe you got to win it from the pocket.

Yeah. Yeah. Is it hard to evaluate the quarterback position because you were so good at playing the position? Do you think that comes into it all? No. I think the hardest thing about figuring out who's going to make and who's not is what's here.

Right? And so I mean, I think if you look at all these quarterbacks always go high in the draft, you know, they're going to bad teams, number one. And number two is they've never really had any criticism their whole life, right? Because they've been, they were good the whole time. They were good in high school. They were good in college. And so they'd never faced the criticism. And so, you know, to be able to figure out, and the right combination with an offensive quarter head coach is key. But to be able to get those kids in situations because they're going to go through tough times,

there is a lot of growing pains coming from college football, I don't care if you play at Alabama or anywhere, you get to the NFL, it's a big jump. You know, you in college, you may play against one or two guys on the other side that's gonna that'll be that'll play in the NFL. Right once you get in the NFL, they're all they're all NFL players. So but I think the key thing is trying to figure out how they're going to handle the negative criticism and the negativity that comes along with young

quarterbacks, what they have to go through, because they've got those growing pains. And so that's the thing that you can't you can't read. Yeah. And also trying to figure out getting them in the right offense. It allows them to be successful. Yeah. And there's always such a rush to get out getting them in the right offense that allows them to be successful. And there's always such a rush to get those young guys in there because the fans want them in there and see how they're gonna do. And so, you know, to be able to have a coach, a head coach and or an offensive coordinator that can really protect that kid and really let him grow for the first couple years, two or three years to where he sees everything and he's ready to go. Yeah, situation is everything. I have, so this is a part of the show we do where it's, I love to gamble.

I bring up a bad memory about gambling and ask our guests a question about it. Did you actually watch Paxton Lynch's bowl game? I did, I did. Okay, that makes no sense then. I lost a lot of money on Memphis in that game. And I that was all my scouting of Paxson Lynch. Yeah, you missed some but yeah, you know, we thought, you know, the thing is, a lot of times when you go through that, if the coach likes them,

right, and it's a good fit, Gary Kubiak was the head coach at that time. And, you know, he's athletic and can move around again, you never know what's in here. We thought he would be a really good fit in Gary's offense. And then, unfortunately, Gary retired after that year. And so then trying to get that mix back. And unfortunately, that was one of those picks that didn't work out. Yeah, maybe I know you're not the GM anymore of the Broncos. You're still involved.

Maybe just having me come by for a pre-draft meeting, and you could say a name and be Like no, he actually he played a terrible game against you know, yeah USC like don't know Listen, I'm not I'm not a smart person But I just I lost a lot of money on that game and I was like this guy I could see that can tilt you Took it with me. Yeah, if you lose a bet on somebody you remember all the bad things they did. Great like down. You'll never like them again. You know, I'm done with this guy. Really nice guy. Yeah, really wish he had played better

against Auburn in that ballgame. What we're sorry, one guy we got to get on the show is Mike Shanahan. Mike Shana seems like a football guy through and through. You got to spend a lot of time with him. We've got to dance around this topic for years. We've had some players that have played for him that have told us about the parties that he used to throw at his house every year. And we heard that he has a tanning bed in his house, in his home. Did you ever see his tanning bed?

I never saw the tanning bed, but we always had those parties when we broke camp and so it was always a real good party before we went into the year. But I never saw the tanning booth it was funny you never wore a hat so I think all the color with ink was natural yeah we've heard how fun those parties were what was he like as a coach was he a players coach he was he was tough you know and I think that that's what made him great number one he was a very hard worker like most head coaches but what his knowledge of the knowledge of the offensive

game was was tremendous and where it was back then the West Coast offense because when he left Denver he went to San Francisco learned the West Coast and then when he came back to Denver with Alex Gibbs who was our offensive line coach they they put the zone running game in with the West Coast and then the combination and then Mike just kind of grew it from there and then I think if you look even now what Kyle has done with the same base offense and what he's done and expanded with it, that you know, they continue to take it to new heights.

But Mike was, you know, he was he was a player's coach, but he was tough and the expectations it was never enough. He never let us exhale. It was always we got to play better the next week. But you know, players loved him and he's the guy that wanted to win football games and so he was the best coach I ever played for because I had a great rapport with him also but loved what he did offensively but also the expectations that he had of us made us have the expectations of us too and therefore that's I think why we're able to play it

that level. Yeah the running game in the Shanahan offense is it's beautiful to watch. It's one thing where you know you can go three yards in a cloud of dust and to a certain extent you know that can win you some football games but when you watch the 49ers or the Broncos back in the day or now the Dolphins when they're running the football you're like this is a work of art. It really is and you know when the key thing is and what people don't realize is anytime you run the ball that well you have receivers that can block and And that's the key thing. Cause as you know, those writers and receivers got to get down in there and dig out those strong safeties and those type things. And so with Eddie McCaffee,

when we were, when I was there in my last couple of years, Ed Smith or Eddie McCaffee and Rod Smith, you know, they were great receivers, but also tough guys to get in there and dig out those, those DBS. And so that's what makes that running game so good. And the commitment by those wide receivers to block in the ring. Yeah. Is there a guy that you that you played with that you think could excel in today's NFL? Like a guy that would be an absolute game breaker?

I have one in mind, but curious to hear from you. That excelled in today's game. I mean, Gary Zimmerman in the left tackle, I think could have played it in any time. You know, he was just that physically talented. You want a huge guy is probably 285 to 90, but wasn't huge, but just knew how to play the game. It was a guy that I trusted on the backside. So that's one guy that would fit. I mean, Terrell would still fit in and I was trying to think if there's any, defensively, our safeties, Dennis Smith and Atwater, they probably wouldn't fit in because they'd probably be suspended every other game because they'd

blow guys up. But yeah, I think we have several guys still playing. I mean, Shannon Sharpe was the one that I was thinking of. Especially where the tight ends come and the ability that he had to run after the catch, how strong it was, how big he was. That's a dude. I've seen him recently.

He's a massive man. He's still that big. He almost looks bigger now than he was when he played, but he keeps working. And the other thing is Shannon was only probably 225 pounds, but he was so strong, especially in the zone game on outside zone, he had to control that outside linebacker and he was able to do that. So to have a tight end that can catch and run routes and catch the ball like he could, but also block. Cause you don't see a lot of that in the NFL today. They're either a pass catcher or they're a blocker.

And you don't have a combination of guys that can run, block, as well as have the great speed and stress the field for you too. Yeah, weird question, Tebow mania. Was there ever a moment where you're like, maybe God is a Broncos fan? There was no doubt I thought it was. Cuz once it kept on going, we're like, what is going on here? My gut was, eventually God's got to take good care of somebody else, too. The way that my first year when he came in as a starter and was in there the last,

I don't know, 13 games, I mean, there were some things that happened that were just, I mean, truly unbelievable. Yeah. We're playing Chicago on a Monday night. He runs out of bounds, stays in bound, the game's over and get them out of bounds. And then all of a sudden Tim comes back and makes that big comeback. And so it was amazing. It was, you know, I think we, uh, we beat Kansas city and Kansas city with eight yards passing or something. Yeah, it was crazy.

And then obviously the Steelers, you know, a playoff game and the slant and yeah, the slant and overtime first play of overtime. It was crazy. And then obviously, the Steelers playoff game and the slant. Yeah, the slant and overtime, first play of overtime. It was crazy. But he's a great kid. I mean, he really is. He's everything that people think he is, and just a tremendous competitor. Now, I think there's only one guy that

could have got me out of T-Bow mania, and that was Peyton Manning. So that was the only guy that I think that's only one guy that could have got me out of T-Bow mania and that was Peyton Manning. Yeah, yeah. So that was the only guy that I think that people would accept to say, okay, well, Peyton's probably a little bit better than Timmy and so we can go ahead and go that direction. And so that's why it was even more important to get Peyton. Was there any part of your conversations with Peyton where he showed that like he was like, I don't really want to, I'm worried about coming to Denver because this is John Elway city. Because it is you're, you're bigger than life there and you're, you are kind of like, when

you think of Broncos, it's John Elway. Yeah, but I know, I don't think Peyton had a problem with that. You know, I didn't, I didn't think so. I think that, you know, Peyton was, you know, he's obviously, and I, we all know how studious he is and the way he runs things that, uh, he was going to pick the best place for him, right? That where he felt like, you know, he was going to be able to run his stuff and be the offense mold into what he wanted to do and also getting him a situation that was like Indianapolis that

was not a major market but Denver and Indy is about the same size. So, I thought it was just a good fit. John Fox was the head coach. He liked John. John was a really good guy and a good recruiter too. So, and obviously it worked out very well for Peyton. Yeah, yeah, I'd say so that that first Super Bowl was tough to speak of gamblers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had the Seahawks, excuse me, I had the Broncos in that one. Yeah. And then it felt like after the first snap, it just wasn't

going to go your way. Oh, yeah. No, that momentum switched fast, like on the first play. And so and I bet a lot on the Broncos. Yeah, got hurt so he was out and then but you know, Seattle was pretty good. And then yeah, we just goes back going Yeah, I kicked everyone out of my house in the third quarter. I lost so much money I know I was out in the box. I had to stay there. I would have been at your house It's funny talk about t-bone mania, I remember distinctly I forget which game it was but right after it was over The the camera showed you and you were just shaking your head like I I don't know how this happened But I guess I'm just gonna roll with it. Yeah. We had a game down in Miami. We had like 38 yards the whole game

We're down 14 nothing with seven minutes to go in a game. We end up getting an overtime and win the game Yeah, that might have been it. Yeah Into it I time and win the game. That might have been it. Yeah. I don't know. Let's just roll with it. Yeah, I was leaning into it. No idea. I am a little bit upset with you because I bought a Nerf Vortex football when I was like 11 years old and I thought that I was gonna be able to throw it like 100 yards because I think it said on it like John Elway threw this. How long did you throw? How far did you throw the Vortex? Ah, shoot, I think it's 120 yards. That sucker flew pretty good with the tail and the noise. You hit the one with the noise, too. Oh, you got the one with the noise.

My parents hated it. Oh, yeah. You take that to the beach. Everybody around you hates that family. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. But no, that thing sailed pretty good. Yeah.

How far could you throw an actual football? I think the farthest I threw one in a game was I think probably 72 yards. I think I could get it 80 to 85 when I was at my height. And I mean you had the famous in college the Elway Cross. Yeah. Because you broke your receivers fingers so much that they then you could see the cross on their jersey. Well it was really when they didn't have pads on and if they let it get to their chest sometimes that the cross on the end of the ball would get to the

Skin and so yeah, I think it happened a couple times So that would would you feel bad that you were just breaking your receivers? Yeah, I did especially and I felt bad every time the ball didn't spiral cuz I knew if the ball didn't spiral it was gonna be Tough for them to catch it. And so it was like, you know, that's when things when fingers usually got You know sprained or broken that when the ball didn't spiral so as long as the ball spiraled, I felt a lot better about it. Yeah, but that is a rocket arm if you're like, yeah, my receivers just keep breaking their fingers. I throw it so goddamn hard. Yeah, well, you know, I always felt the quicker I get it to them than the quicker they can get their head out, feeling and do something with it

after the ball. So yeah, after the after the catch. Yeah, well, this has been awesome. I have one last question. Row back question. R H O B a C k dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com promo code take. It's not a question. I just want to read a quote that I read of yours that is maybe the most badass quote ever. You said, I've always thought I was going to die with a shovel in case I woke up, I could dig my way out. Yeah. I want to be buried with a shovel. I Want to have always said that I want to be buried with a shovel because I don't want to give up either I don't know if I do wake up. I want to have a way to get out of there

So I do I mean like have you put this into your will like My kids everybody knows they said make sure that shovels in there, okay I'm not getting cremate at all. I'm not, no, I'm not getting cremated. Yeah, give you a chance. Give you a fighting chance. Absolutely, absolutely. That's so awesome. Like, John Elway, hopefully you live for many, many more years. But the day that comes, we're just gonna have to wait a couple more days after

that and be like, anyone check on the plot? The train. Is there any dirt? Is there any grass left over there? You should train. You should actually train for it. You're right. I am now. I'm going to make sure I'm in shape when I die too. No, but it's a good idea to just get some shovel work and I think we could all use that. Absolutely.

You never know. Absolutely. You never know. Success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. That's right. So when I get the opportunity to die, I want to be prepared to take my way out. There you go. I mean, it's great. That's right on.

You're just never out of a game. Never, never. Never, never. The ultimate foot sort of comeback. That would be quitting. I can't ever quit. Well, this has been awesome. Like I said, it's such a thrill to have you on.

We appreciate it so much. How are you feeling about the golf game? Not bad. You're a really good golfer. I play a lot now, so I should be because I play a lot. But you get here and you're not used to playing in these situations, in competitive golf like this. The good thing is it's a double bogey max, so that helps. But you always, no matter what, and for me, I still love competing as much as I ever did. And so to be able to come out here and do it on a golf course is you know it's tremendous and so try to go out there and I think you're Jack Nicklaus and say okay you're

a John that way you're gonna miss some shots so don't don't worry about that yeah I got for him so try to make some birdies and see what happens is there one guy in the field that you're very much looking forward to beating like if we're doing a head-to-head match and I know you're not going to be paired necessarily paired with this guy but is there one guy that you want to make sure that you beat? You know what I always say, I want to be in the top 10 and then I'd like to finish first of the oldest guys, right? So Jack Wagner's a little bit older and he's been here every year.

So try to stay ahead of those guys. But you know, it's fun because I'm looking forward to Friday. I get to play with Josh Allen, who I played with last year, and Trevor Lawrence. So I get to play with those two and but you know it's fun because I'm looking forward to Friday I get to play with Josh Allen who I played with last year and Trevor Lawrence yeah so I get to play with those two and get caught up with those two so I'm looking forward to it you know and there's so many great guys out here great celebrities it's fun to you know guys that we see on TV and the young guys that are playing now get a chance to meet them so it's a thrill for us old guys to be here how did you not get Josh Allen I feel like he is

exactly your type I know he is. And the one that got away. Last year I played with him and he says, yeah, and John, I was going, I'm wondering how long is it going to take him to realize that I passed on him and took Bradley and Chubb instead? Yeah. It's crazy. And it took me, it took him two and a half holes to bring it up. Cause, and I loved him. Right? Yeah. It just, you know, didn't work out. He was your type. He was my type. Yeah. You're right. That's the word. Right. Yeah.

That was probably my biggest mistake of my GM days was not taking Josh. You didn't watch the packs and lynches bowl. That too. And I didn't get a chance to talk to you. Yeah, exactly. You should have talked to me. All right. Well, thanks so much, John.

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Thank you to Pepsi. We are going to do the Mount Rushmore of after school snacks. I think this might get contentious. I also think, PFD, we might age ourselves out a little. Yeah, that's okay. Both those things have crossed my mind. That's totally fine.

Yes, but I'm excited for this. And Henry has the first pick. I believe I do. Not necessarily a draft, you want the first pick. Ah! It is a deep draft. It is deep, but yeah, you're right. This might be a good spot to have a third or fourth, but I'm ready, Hank, for whatever you want. Do you have anything to say about the Darport bullseye on Friday? It was just bullseye. Okay. All right. All right. Ready? It should

have been Darport. Okay. Ready? You ready?. I was mistake. Are you ready? I'm ready. All right Henry 1-1 pick of After-school snacks, I had it by Pepsi. I had to go something I'm passionate about something I love more than anything the greatest combination in the world peanut butter chocolate Gonna go with nutty bars. Mmm good one Love them. Love them. Love them. Yeah.

You know that you'll get my vote on that. It's a solid pick. Yeah. You know you'll get my vote. I wouldn't take it 1-1, but it's a good pick. Like I said, there's not a clear 1-1 in my mind. Yeah. There actually is not.

Because everyone's after school snacks are basically based off of their parents. Yeah, they're friends parents Yeah, and the one house that had everything. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's out of that. That was the best house That's where I'm going my one one. Yeah, okay I'm worried. This is gonna be a fat shaming thing Okay, because my after-school Was just a lasagna it was just like a fourth meal so I'm gonna I'm gonna go nuggets okay yeah any chicken chicken nuggets okay cuz I had that I know nuggets I know nuggets I wanted but I thought maybe that was a little too niche no I don't know

it's good I don't know gets rock yeah no that's you know I had nuggets on my list you're good now this is my one one and this is based off of the friend's house who had everything that had the stock pantry. Pizza rolls. Pizza rolls. Remember when Blake Boros and Jared Goff almost burned down that house at the Superbowl? Yeah. I make pizza rolls. Yes. That was awesome. Yes. Okay. Good pick. I had it on my list as well. Oh, this is tough. This is tough. Okay, I will go with Doritos. All right. I cool rancher is my favorite. Do you want me to specify I can? I don't care if you guys want I think you can just say Doritos Doritos. I mean, Doritos are the best. Oh, I think you can just say Doritos Doritos. I mean Doritos are the best

Doritos are the best they really are the best and their best. Yeah after school This is implement some salsa. This is tough because I want to I want to you know what I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm just gonna double up on it Pringles you're going double chips going double chips because I this is I'm a chips guy need the crunch Doritos and Pringles lock up the chips aisle, okay? Which not you don't specify Pringles is fine, but which Pringles sour cream and onion original BBQ that's my top three no pizza. I wasn't a big pizza. I that I the pizza combos and Pringles are like too artificial flavoring to me, which I know that sounds ridiculous because

everything that we're listing is like the worst thing you can put in your body, but uh, yeah, I just I Never got into the pizza. I Like the pizza. Okay. All right Next up I'm gonna go string cheese. Hmm string cheese. Love just toss it across the room You don't have to you can go into your house for five seconds toss the string cheese throw the backpack down go back outside Wait, this is me. Yeah, this is my this was my other pick again Bigger than normal snacks. I'm gonna go bagel bites. Okay. Yeah yeah I am a bagel bite guy over me too roll so my that was my second in my big board it was nuggets one bagel bites too yeah bagel bites are great bagel bites are great I love bagel

bites I'll eat them as an adult I'm actually pretty shocked this got back to me it's my turn right yeah goldfish yeah mm-hmm I feel like though the only the only doubt I love goldfish you take not saying I'm not saying anything bad about goldfish I do fart more when I eat goldfish because I feel like though the only down... I love goldfish. You can take that. I'm not saying anything bad about goldfish. I do fart more when I eat goldfish because I'm convinced that the air trapped inside the goldfish goes in your belly. And you swallow it? Yeah. So goldfish I thought about too, but in my book that's more of a lunchtime snack.

That's like added in. No, they're all the same. You have that as a side dish. Yeah. I think all these things would show up in a bag. That's true. Thank you. Yeah, but after school You're just like this is you go to this you go to the pantry. You're like, what am I gonna eat? Right goldfish are always there. Yeah, because the pantry there you whatever you're putting your lunch is also what are your goldfish flavors? Straight up straight up flavor blasts. You got a blast the the flavor I like I do like the pretzel goldfish so little change change of pace I like the flavor blast but I get you could just give me plain gold and I could eat the

entire you know family-sized box and one sitting maybe two okay hmm I will go with famous amos cookies. Oh, could pick. Yeah, that was a little bag the bag Like my parents. I was like the yeah, they're the big boxes at PJ's but with little bags No, yeah, they come in little bags a little yellow bag Am I thinking? Yeah, yeah, they were like good sized bags. Yeah, but the cookies are Like mustard yellow? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They were like good size bags. Yeah. But the cookies are small, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good pick. Like that pick a lot. God damn it. Being a kid was the best. Cause I have like half of these I have in my house right now and it's a problem. I think we have most

of them out just in the lobby. Yeah. It's a big we definitely have goldfish We've got the same famous amiss Doritos. Yeah. Yeah, we've got them all alright string cheese max This is me. Yeah Is it wait is it? Yeah? Yeah I'm gonna go Uncrustables. Mmm. Okay. Yeah, I love uncrustable. You're just going all meals. Yes. Okay. I mean, after school, that was my... I needed a fourth meal after school. Uncrustable, why didn't you just think about what snack would you have after your fourth meal?

Or would that just go straight to... No, but that was the snack. They're like the smaller meals. Yeah. It was... That's what I would have after school. I'm being true to myself Yeah, and uncrossable is a great choice. Yeah, perfect snack Do you not have a pantry I?

Did but like they didn't it just wasn't really in my repertoire Okay, all right for my next one. I'm gonna go with celery and peanut butter Hmm especially for kids if you want to like act like you're feeding them something good, then celery, it's a vegetable. Yeah. And then we're going to cover it in peanut butter. You go ants on a log or no? Ants on a log are good, but to tell you the truth, I don't have the patience for it.

Yeah. Once I get the celery dipped in the peanut butter, I'm like, I'm eating this. Yeah. Okay. Question before I make my final two picks. Drinks yes or no? Yes. Snacks? Are we saying drinks or no?

I think they could be. Okay. Because I don't want to... Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay. No? Hank, no?

Is a drink a snack? Yeah, I'm fine with not opening that door. I was just asking it for the group. Because I can go totally different place or I can go a drink. I don't care. But I want to just ask. Because I had a specific type of drink that is like somewhat snack adjacent and right adjacent No, all right, so let's go no drinks. That's fine. Okay, what would you drink have been Capri Sun? Oh good pick

Yeah, I would have taken slurpee also the dictionary definition of snack is a small amount of food between meals All right, I would have done Capri Sun. I also had you who on the list I had Sonny you on the list. I had Sunny D on the list. After school drinks. We could do that in those. Yeah. All right. So all right. I'm happy. That was very that was nice how we did that. That was good.

OK. Let's see. Fruit snacks. Easy. Do you want me to specify? I can. You would want me to specify I can You would like me to specify okay? This is where I'm gonna age myself fuck Are you about to say the shark one yeah, they're still around yeah Shark bites are still around I get I get gummy sharks in my frozen yogurt Oh fuck yeah great white shark is the best fruit snack ever is good shark shark bites

Can you put maybe put parentheses fruit snacks because people might not know what shark bites are that's fair all right and then this I'm not talking about homemade I'm talking about store just rip it open the Rice Krispie treat love you know it's all reliable to the old reliable pick I'm also have that in my house. I'm bummed. I can't take slurpee cuz the after you know I want to take Capri Sun with a slurpee you like that's when you're driving home from school Yeah, those couple years you swing by the 7-eleven on the way back So I'm gonna pivot and I'm gonna go to Easy Mac easy Mac mac and cheese great pick great pick thank you that's in my

thank you you're doing our repertoire yeah thank you easy Mac was elite yeah Max's last pick is steak meatballs you have a great draft Matt I have it there's just no I mean I just keep going because I have another one that I would like to do it Lunchables, okay It's great, it's literally lunch though, but yeah, but it's it's not a real it's not a full meal It can be a snack growing boy. It can't be a snack. It's lunchable. Which lunchable I think that's a I mean I mean, that's a snack. I would eat that after school. But which lunchable? The I wish I would eat it after school. I would eat that after school. But what's Lunchable? Uh, the- I wish I knew 12 little packs just fucking pounding all these things. That's- no, but that's insane that we're allowing Lunchables.

It's literally lunch. I get it, but I- I mean I would eat it after school, so that's fine. Yeah, these are things that I would eat after school. Yeah, alright. You can make another one. I like crushed Lunch eat after school. Yeah, all right you can you can make another one I Like crushed lunch. Yeah, yeah lunchables are crushed them Crushed there's only a couple good ones like the pizza ones were trash. He's no trash. No, I like the cheese and crackers Yeah, the cheese cracker with I think I don't know why that's that should stand if you want to cracker lunch

No, you can you can you can keep it? I just think that it's insane. Lunchables come with dessert and a drink. So it's like, it is more than a snack. There were ones that didn't come with all that. But lunchables, in Max's defense, lunchables for maybe guys our size was not a full lunch. You can't eat a lunchable for lunch.

I never once had a lunchable for lunch. Never, because you'd just be like, what, is it? That's all I get? Correct. That's like a warmup snack. You eat the lunchables and then you go to the bagel bites. Yeah. I'm sticking. I'll let lunchable. I'll put, I'll even put the cheese and cracker in, in parentheses. But these just get cheese and crackers because lunchables come with a drink. But like the. Like the Lunchable ones are the, no. My qualm is not with the fact that there's so many things in a Lunchable, it's just the fact that we're taking

lunch as a snack. It's funny, it's ridiculous. But we're gonna let Max do it. But Lunchables, if it weren't for the name, it is the quintessential snack. Like the name is what's stopping it. Like it's literally the size is a snack. It's like you eat it after school wait

It's like you have a snack can a snack have a dessert Do all lunchables yeah, I think they do yeah, I mean I'm all half a minor desserts anyway No, but I mean like there's a dessert that goes along with his snack. There's like after you're done with your snack You can have your dessert in them. the dessert in them? Andy's bar. Right here! We can't see it Max. Oh shit. It was the Andy's bar. The mint chocolate thing.

There were ones that didn't have the stuff. I used to not have ones with dessert. It would be like the meat and cheese and crackers. That was it. That was it. Those were the ones I used to have. I didn't know they got desserts now. I'll even put just the cheese, just the meat, cheese, and cracker.

Yeah, this is the one I'm talking about, PFT. That's basically, that's a snack. But I think that's leaving out a part of the tray. No, it's not. It's a whole tray. There was usually... Look at it. I think there was both.

There was some that didn't have the... There was some no dessert lunchables. Yeah. Yeah, I don't remember having... Look at this one, ham and cheddar cheddar there's no dessert in that one crackers cheese ham okay all right it is like I mean it's just not even close to a meal it's 260 calories yeah that's that's like the same thing by that's also like the same amount of calories as a bag of Doritos. Oh yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Okay. So you're sticking with it. I'm sticking with it. Memes? I'll even put the just meat, cheese, and crackers in the parentheses. I think Mac should be allowed to pick it. I just think it's very funny that he took lunch as a snack.

Yeah, yes. I'm looking right now. Lunchables have gotten fancy. Yeah, too fancy. Just give me the meat, cheese, and crackers. They are crazy right now. Run the football. Holy shit. They have mini hot dog Lunchables have gotten fancy. Yeah, too fancy. Just give me the meat, cheese, and corn. They are crazy right now. Run the football. Holy shit, they have mini hot dog Lunchables?

What the fuck? Damn, they've got ones with Reese's in them. All right, Hank. Last pick? Yep. Dunkaroos. Good one. I had it on my list.

Yeah. Can't argue with it. Can't argue with it. Can't argue with it. We missed a bunch. Gushers. Gushers. Yeah. Cosmic brownies. Cosmic brownies on my list.

Zebra cakes. Little Debbie. Yeah. Fruit roll ups. Fruit by the foot. I was a Fruit by the Foot guy. Were you guys Fruit by the Foot or Fruit Roll Up? I was Fruit Roll Up's family.

Fruit Roll Up. I liked Fruit by the Foot. I liked to by the foot. I liked to spin it out and just eat it, like not use my hands. Yeah. I was a yogurt, like a Trix yogurt. Oh, go-gurt. Go-gurt.

Go-gurt. That was what I was going to go if I didn't go. Trix yogurt was also really good. Trix yogurt was so good. Yeah. Gushers. We say gushers. The peanut butter chewy granola bar.

That's like a candy bar. Yep. You can pretend that it's healthy Just uh cheese those uh the packets that were the neon orange cheese crackers with a peanut butter inside Yes, you know those yeah. Wait, are you talking about? Yes. I I like the same one regular cracker Butter inside, but I know what you're talking about the neon orange. Yeah, then um, and they also had those of cheese. Yep Yep, Hot Pockets. Yep. I have a whole line of meals. That's the hot pockets Crush Hot Pockets. I completely forgot about Hot Pockets. I

Loved Hot Pockets god damn it. They were good. Just a grilled cheese sandwich Tequito taquitos. I would hear those are good too. Yeah, he knows peanut butter pretzels chocolate Teddy grams I Used to do chocolate Teddy grams. This is now not after well, I guess is after school because it's college. I was high. Yeah tortilla Heated up peanut butter Peanut chocolate Teddy grams in it. Whoa, actually, I think you've said that. Yeah, it's a high. It's a high I think I might put it in chef. Donny's

Actually, I think you've said that yeah, it's a high it's a high I think I might have put in chef Donnie's Shows how I Paladins to do the the microwave nachos that like if you just had shredded cheese Yeah, yeah chips and yeah Newcomb new come in and still do that Completely solid it burns on yeah, yeah, it's good. Then you bite it. It's all chewing you like this still good Yeah, it's good stuff. I was the apples and peanut butter guy. Yep apples and peanut butter very good Sun ships always like sun chips you guys like sun chips. Okay. Yeah, they also were like in that the garden the garden salsa ones I like the blue ones and it would it was always sun chips were in that range where you could pretend it was healthy

Just cuz it looked different and it didn't look like Doritos like kind of in your face like you're gonna fucking eat this Yeah, Sun chips like oh, you know says son in it. Yeah The ruffle sour cream and cheddar Love those chips. You get chips. Yeah chip guy through and through That's a grilled cheese. Yeah, you said grilled. Yeah, just whipping up grilled cheese real fast Oh, I had one other drink that maybe PFT you you and I might be the only ones you know Did you guys ever have the juice barrels? Yeah juice pearls? That's like a soccer halftime So there are little kegs of gas juice. Yeah, we had and it was like not there was no flavors

It was just red or blue Great barrel drinks great. You could drink one of those in about a quarter red or blue. Great. Barrel drinks. Great. You could drink one of those in about a quarter of a second. Great. Those were great. Yeah, you who we said. Anything else? What did we miss, Yubi? We got them all?

It was pretty good, yeah. I feel like we nailed a lot of these. Hot Pockets was a miss. Big miss. I loved Hot Pockets. What flavor? You like the ham and cheese? You like the cheese steak? Cheese steak and then the pepperoni. Yeah I was ham and cheese and the meatball. The meatball mozzarella. Can I get the meatball in there? Yeah

Gotta find a way to get the meatballs. I should have. Max you're lucky that you didn't we didn't start with this Mount Rushmore last summer when you first started because your Name would definitely have been meatball. Yeah meatball maxi Meatball maxi alright anything else Hank That was the best getting out of school just being able to Go to town on all the snacks. Mm-hmm. It's hard like. Like I struggle with like I want to be that house, but also I don't want like a ton of like random kids in my house. So like I think I'm not gonna also it's valuable to teach your kids to scavenge.

Yeah, but like the one house that had the best snacks was always the one one pick of everyone whose house we're going to go to. Yeah, and I don't I want to be in that middle zone where like, yeah, my kids come over with their friends, but like every day I think I think that'd be a lot. And then we'll sneak into the like, yeah, you can go get a snack, but then later on you'd be like, let's go. Yeah, let's go. You can build it.

They will come. That's pretty much it. If you just build like a convenience store in your house, all the kids will come over and that's a very slippery slope into like all the kids coming over all the time. And then next thing you know, they're in high school. And then your basement is the party basement. Yeah. Yeah. And also I don't want all the kids eating my snacks thing you know they're in high school and then your basement is the party basement yeah yeah and also I don't want all the kids eating my snacks yeah they are my snacks I'm the one who buys them yeah

those my kids those were like a lot of these were like the ideal snacks like I I would would rarely have them in my own house but every time right somewhere else is it be like right this is what I wanted as a kid. Yeah, this is what I wish my parents were. Yes, yes, yeah. That's as simple as it gets as a kid. It's like, do they allow toy guns? Can you watch TV and snacks? That's what I want my parents to be. What video game system do they have?

Right. Yeah. OK, good Mount Rushmore, boys. OK, that is our show. Takeys on Wednesday. We can't remember if we already taped numbers or not, so we're going to do one right now. And if we did do it, you'll get two numbers this time.

So everyone be cool between now and Wednesday, because we will be awarding the AWL award to some podcast listeners. So much like right before Christmas, when you try to make your parents think that you're doing a lot of good stuff to get presents and toys, just be cool this week. Compliments are fine. Everyone give memes a compliment this week.

Give everyone a compliment. Yeah. Say something nice about all of us. But yeah, so if we have double numbers, you're not hallucinating. There'll just be another numbers with Max and Hank right after these, but let's try to get one of us to get it Right now without max here. So numbers eight 77 3 20

99 put actually can't change mine. Yes, 56. Yes Yeah, 56. Would you rather have 20? No, I'll take 56 21 This officially counts even if we did other numbers. Everyone agrees, yes? Yes. OK. It counts. 71.

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