Pardon My Take - Johnny Manziel, Lane Johnson, Danny Woodhead + Best Of Coach O, Julian Edelman and Von Miller

Episode Date: July 5, 2018

t's Football in July! A special PMT episode with new Mt Rushmore's from Johnny Manziel (Mt Rushmore of comebacks), Danny Woodhead (Mt Rushmore of unstaffed NFL players) and SB Champ Lane Johnson (Mt Rushmore of Johnson's). Plus we have best of Coach O, Julian Edelman, and Von Miller. Back on Monday with CJ McCollum, hopefully we don't die between now and then otherwise some things we said would be very awkwardYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, it is football in July, July 4th week. You're probably out of work. We have an extra long episode of all of our favorite football guys of the year and some never-before-heard Mount Rushmore's with Johnny Manziel, Lane Johnson, and Danny Woodhead, the footballist football guy that's ever played football. That's actually 100% true about Danny Woodhead. That's absolutely yeah, without a doubt. Without a doubt. We are back in studio on Monday, but enjoy this double episode of football in July. Before we get to everything, the Cash App, you know it.

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upgrade your phone, get an iPhone X, and you too will not have the percentage in your phone battery. All right, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by Seeky. Today is Thursday, July 5th, and LeBron James has signed. We called that, by the way, we were way out in the head of that one. So please credit us and the fact that he signed with... Fill in the blank. Well, they're gonna be on vacation too. So, in reality, it's actually, we're sitting here on Wednesday, June 27th, recording this for you. It's our double football in July episode. You are right now sitting probably, hopefully not at work, hopefully at the beach, but if you're at work, you're hungover, you feel like shit,

you partied a little too hard July 4th, but we have an extra little episode for you with never before heard footage. Let's not say little. Yeah, because it's actually a big episode. Never before heard footage. It is a thick, thick episode, a lot of girth on this one. You gotta fix your mic, dude. It's okay, no, I got this. I'm going manual with this baby. No, it's a good episode. We've got never before seen footage. And heard. Actually, all of our footage is never before seen. Well, no. Scare Mucci. Scare Mucci is the only one that's watched it. Yes. So, outside of those Italian eyes, nobody has seen it yet. Here's the thing though. The summer works in a mysterious way, because everyone gets really excited for summer right after Memorial Day. You're like, man,

it's nice out. I'm going to do so much this summer. This is going to be the summer of me. You know, I'm going to travel, I'm going to do all this shit. July 4th hits, and it's like a fast forward button. Next thing you know, you close your eyes, boom, football is back. Chill out. Football is back. Summer's over. Summer's actually over. It's football season. They should start back to school shopping July 5th. Yeah, exactly. Put up the signs. Sorry, Hank. You never You only went to the beach once, Hank. Sorry. Well, no, Hank went like seven or eight times. 17 times. A lot of vacations. But yeah, so we have three new very Mount Rushmore's that are really fun. We have Danny Woodhead, undrafted free agents. We have Lane Johnson, the Mount

Rushmore, Johnson's, and Johnny Manziel, the Mount Rushmore of comebacks. Before we kick into all that, and we also have our favorite football guys, I have to ask you a C-key question because I forgot to ask any of the guys C-key questions. How was your July 4th? I have a C-key. It was extremely patriotic. Okay, great. I lit something on fire. That's what you have to do as an American. Do you still have all 10 fingers after July 4th? No, I put a JPP, but I do not tweet out my MRI, Adam Schafter. I have a C-key question. Okay, put in promo code, take, you get $10 off. How was your July 4th? It was awesome. Okay, definitely blew off an appendix of some sort. It'll be really bad if one of us died, by the way. Well, let's don't die. No, let's actually

say this right now. If one of us dies, we still have to run this episode because then we get, well, no, Michael Jackson effect. We get shit loads of diamonds. No, you're wrong. What we do is we hang onto it and we sell the lost tapes to one buyer, to Screlly. And I don't want to say like no, I'm not going to say it. I hope it's you. No, I was going to say I hope it's Bubba because like, I mean, we could still do the show without you, Bubba. We wouldn't want you to die. But like, you know, if we were to, if we were to get the proper like bump from a death, Bubba's already dodged death once. True. So like, I don't think, I don't hope it's you. Nobody's had to be you. Nobody would be shocked if it was Bubba because he has a habit of playing Frogger in the streets

with, with livery vans. Mount Rushmore. If it was Hank, if it was Hank, that wouldn't be the worst thing. Wow. Okay, this got weird. My seeking question was remember when PFT just hijacked the Dak Prescott interview and asked Seeky question. That was a head turn. It was a totally normal move. It just, it just shocked me and Hank. We were like, what? I don't understand why it's so shocking. It was, it wasn't, it was just because Big Cat was forgetting to do it. No, I was going to do it. Big Cat was thrown off balance by the whole interview. I was ready. We got to ask Seeky questions. No, I was ready. I was just seeing how long we keep Dak Prescott on because he really wanted to get off. It wasn't a weird move. It was just unexpected. Like I was just kind of,

I was so down because it was such a boring interview. Then I was just like, wait, what? Yeah. It was a Hezzi. It was a Hezzi Jimbo. Speaking of Hezzi Jimbo, by the way, on Monday we're back in studio and we have an awesome interview with CJ McCallum. He came into studio. He's, I think he's, we're best friends of now, but Hank, Hank, you weren't here for it. Yeah. He, he got traded actually in the last week. Yeah. He also told us that we're not allowed to call Kevin Durant a baby back bitch. Well, no, he didn't say that. He just said it was disrespectful. Yeah. So we got into it with that. So we just said he's a baby bitch. Yeah. All right. Let's, let's hop into the football guys. We're going to start off. We're going to come in and out.

So you'll listen and we'll come in and out from each one. Introduce it. So first up, we have Mount Rushmore of undrafted NFL players with the goat of undrafted NFL players. Danny Woodhead is the most undrafted player of all time. Yes. So here he is. Danny Woodhead. All right. We now welcome on Danny Woodhead. He's retired Danny Woodhead. He was just telling us that he had a bad day at golf and he shot an 86. So he's, he's an asshole for that. Well, thoughts and prayers, Danny. That sounds terrible. Yeah. Come on, man. Hey, it was, guys, it was, it was hard to deal with. It was one of those things and I just, I barely could sleep. At any point, this was yesterday and I couldn't sleep hardly during that round. Did it ever occur to

you? Were you ever like, man, I really wish I was in, I was doing OTAs right now and just running wind sprints. You know, I mean, that, that was one of the things that never came up. I keep, I keep hoping. Give me just like a little glimmer of hope of maybe, maybe you'll come back. I would say if it was from zero to a hundred, a hundred being, yes, I thought about it, zero being, I didn't think about it. I'd say anywhere into the negative 100,000, 100,000. Well, okay. I mean, like it's not bad, right? Yeah. Yeah. What, what if we're talking like late November here, maybe even late December, Patriots are six or 15 and 0, they're going to week 17 and they're clearly going to win the Super Bowl and they're like, Hey, Danny, can you come back? We'll pay you 10

million dollars. 10 million dollars. All you have to do is play one weekend in the playoffs. What do you say to that? I think, I think that would be, I don't think, I'm probably going to be down to like 185 pounds. What's your plan? I don't even know. Well, my plane weight was about 200. Okay. So that's 15 pounds. That could be different. That could be difficult. I would have to only play slot. Okay. Well, we can make that happen. Yeah. I feel like such a piece of shit. Danny Woodhead wears less than I do now. I need to lose weight. Yeah. I don't weigh 185 yet. Okay. So you will in the process. I'm in the process. You're playing a lot of golf. Yeah. That'll get you down. Yeah. I would, I would say it's a little bit. Yes. A little bit of golf. All right. So we're

doing in honor of, uh, we miss football. So this is the football. This is like football, you know, Christmas in July. This is football in July episode and we're doing the Mount Rushmore of undrafted NFL guys because you were one of them. So we're going to do a snake draft. You're going to get to pick first and then we're going to go around. PFT is going to go second, Hank, then me, then we come back around and you get to pick two and then, so that's how it works. You've never done fantasy, but, uh, no, I definitely never done. Are you going to do a fancy league this year? Well, there's a hundred percent chance I'm doing some sort of fantasy or kick-ons or some like fun game. I gotta do something, right? Yeah. You absolutely do.

So the question, so you have the first pick and the question is, are you going to draft yourself? I am not. I mean, I, that'd be, I would love to have a, my face up on Mount Rushmore, but I would have, if I'm going number one, I'd have to probably go with, uh, one of my teammates, Antonio Gates. He was undrafted in two sports actually. That's a great one. That's a great one. That's a great first pick. He's done all right for himself. Yeah. Did you ever play basketball with him? You know what? One time we did. That's when you asked that. One time it was, uh, myself, Weddell, Gatesy, and then, uh, old Philly Ribs, Philly Ribs, and then, uh, and then, uh, uh, one of, one of, uh, one of Weddell's friends. And we, uh, we took down a team that I think

some of the guys probably played college basketball. I like it. Okay. So I mean, it was, it was pretty big time. It was just, uh, it was a nice little, uh, nice little squad we had. Yeah, that is a good squad. Um, all right. Great first pick, PFT, you go. Okay. My first pick is going to be Danny Woodhead. So thanks for not drafting yourself, Henry, because I'm taking it. I mean, someone had to. That one, that was legit right there. I am, I'm proud that I'm proud to be on this, you know, on this show. Wow. I was selected. Yes. It's quite an honor for you. It is an honor. Yeah. My first pick, I'm going to go with another one of your teammates, Wes Welker. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. See what I was trying to do. I was trying to get the whole Welker,

Amondola, Woodhead. I was trying to just get all picked. You were trying to get, you were trying to get Monopoly. Amondola not drafted. Oh yeah, he did. No, no. No, he didn't. Um, all right. I will go because, because there was a run on, on, uh, white receivers and running backs. I'll just, I'll just squat on the, uh, quarterbacks. I'm going to go two for, I got Tony Romo and Kurt Warner. Oh, that play, that place, that place, that place. Uh, that's, that's legit. Yeah. I mean, we got a Super Bowl winner and a guy who annoys us every Sunday on his broadcast. Good point. So is it back to me now? No, it's a snake. So it's going back to me. Danny, I'm really excited for you because this is, I get, I get this. This is the first year

that you're going to be able to watch NFL games on TV. So you're going to get to see how annoying Tony Romo is in person. Amondola, by the way, undrafted. Yeah. My second pick. I'm going to go with Danny Amondola every week as often as you want to. All right. All right. Sounds good. Okay. This was wondering what we'll talk about. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Hank goes, actually, I won't, I won't take it. I won't take it. All right. No, let's go. Someone else. I'm going to go with Ligera Blunt. That's a good one. Big Gary. He's like a big bowling ball. He got, he got undrafted because he punched that guy at Boise. Yeah. And then he also hopped around to a lot of things. I've been very impressed with Ligera Blunt's career. Like he's gone, what Tampa Bay, New England,

Philadelphia. He went to Pittsburgh, back to New England, I think. Yep. Back to Pittsburgh. How often was that punch? It was a good punch. Great punch. That guy had had the definition of a shit eating grin on his face. I would say that was one of the better after game punches I've seen at Boise. Yes. Yes. So legit. By far. All my Mount Rushmore at least. All right. PFT. I'm going Danny Amondola. Okay. Thanks, Hank. All right. So Danny, now you have two picks. So I have two picks. Well, I think I'm going to have to go with just because it's been during my time and I've been around it. I want to go with Aaron Foster. Okay. That's good. He's a very good pick. You know, for his time there in

Houston, I'd say he kind of lit it up. One of the best backs in the league. Yeah. He was pretty legit. And I just want to, just because this is my guy, and you know, that happens a lot though, that when you played with someone, you end up, you end up like him. I don't know if you guys remember a Malcolm Floyd receiver. Yeah. The guy was an absolute baller and caught anything you threw up. It's just, he didn't get as much notoriety because he had Vincent Jackson there. And I mean, there, there were just people that were the number one, which he was, he was unbelievable though. Malcolm Floyd was that guy you drafted on your fantasy team and you always were like, ah, should I, should I put him in the lineup? Nah, probably not. And

then every time he didn't put him in the lineup, he had like four touchdowns. Exactly. He would have like five games a year where he would put up like 120 yards and two scores. On your bench. Yes. Yeah. All right. Yeah. PFT's third pick. Okay. My next one is going to be James Harrison because if I didn't draft him, I'd be afraid he kicked my ass. Yeah. I had him. That was exactly who I was going to pick next. Thanks a lot. PFT. Sorry, Danny. My third one is going to be Super Bowl hero, Malcolm Butler. Which Super Bowl? This last one? No. Well, he was for the Eagles. You could say that. Okay. All right. So I have my last two picks. The first one I'm going to go with a Hall of Famer and all time face paint guy, John Randall. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah.

He too. Hall of Famer from undrafted to Hall of Famer is pretty fucking impressive. And then my last one. Yeah. My last one's easy. Personal friend. He is the godfather of PFT's team. It is bare for life. Tom Waddle all time. Okay. Look up the clip of Tom Waddle getting, catching like 13 passes and John Madden being like, is he got his cobwebs hit like over and over? Is he just like stumbling around the field? My last one will probably be the greatest kicker of all time, Adam Venetieri. Yeah. Probably the best Colt. They're going to say Robbie Gold. He's going to go into the Hall of Fame as a Colt, I think. I don't think so. More years. Yeah. More years. More points. Yeah. More points. Yeah. I think it should be at the Colt. Yeah.

Thanks, Danny. So the Colts have it. My last one. I'm going to stay on the defensive side of the ball. I'm going to go with London Fletcher. Oh, that's good. So he was one of those guys. He's about like me and Danny's height. Yeah. Ways a little bit more. Bad body. Yes. Real squatty body. He's a human chote. He is. He's a walking chote. And he would have about 250 tackles every year. Yes. That's a good one. And his name's fun. And then he had that one year where he tossed Baker on the end of it. Yeah. That was actually really fun. What happened there? I think it was like his father-in-law passed away. Oh, okay. So he added that and then took it off the next year. Got it. All right, Danny. So he actually counts as two. Yeah. I have one more. You have one more.

Right. I'm going to go with Rod Smith. Oh, that's really good. Denver Broncos receiver. I was a Die Hard Broncos fan growing up. Yeah, that's good. Rod Smith is, he was a baller, man. He was awesome. Yeah. He had a great mile high salute too. Yes, he did. His form on that was great. Oh my gosh. I remember playing in the backyard doing the mile high salute and I lived in Nebraska. And there's not even close to the mile high. That's the most perfect Danny Woodhead story of all time. You're just going back and touchdowns and saluting. Saluting just nothing. That's the best touchdown ever. Oh, I would go into the backyard. Half the time I was playing a game just alone, you know, throwing passes. Did you guys ever do that throw passes yourself?

Yeah. Oh my gosh. I'll tell you what. Have to. That's the life. A couple of misses that we had. Priest Holmes, big time miss. Oh, Warren Moon. Another big time miss. Warren Moon was a great player. That's a huge miss. And Dick Knight trained Lane. Yeah, Dick Lane was a good one. Hey, can I interrupt? Do you think the reason we forgot Warren Moon was because of the 35 to three game? Yeah. I mean, we talked about him. We would talk about him more if you didn't lose that one. Yes, I'd agree. Gosh, dang. Sorry, Warren. Our bad one. Gosh, dang. Sorry. I'm going to go. Jason Peters was a good one, too. Yeah, that's a good one. All right. So Danny, it's football in July. You don't miss football. We do,

but we appreciate you coming on and we appreciate you offering up to come on every single week in the fall. Hey, yeah. Hey, you know, we need to, we probably need to get this rolling, don't we? Yeah. I'll figure it out. You know what might be interesting? Since you've never played fancy football before, we might have you give your fancy advice or just like ask us, hey, what do I do in fantasy because I don't know what I'm doing. You know what? I would love to give that insight. I mean, I don't know how, just because I haven't played fantasy, I don't know how good it will be, the advice, but once I understand the whole PPR or whatever the heck it is, standard league, I think I'm going to,

I'll take it serious and I'll be able to figure things out. I can promise you that. We'll definitely have rule number one, but you need to tweet at all the players that you have on your fantasy team and demand that they play better. Yeah. All my, all my buddies. Yeah. Like, Hey, you got to step it up. Yeah. Yeah. I'll put them on blast. Even though he doesn't have Twitter, I'm going to put him on blast. I'm sure Phillip has a couple of burner accounts. One for each kid. I mean, yeah, that's exactly right. All right, Danny. Thanks so much, man. Hey, have a good one guys. All right. I really hope that Danny gets his golf game fixed. I don't know if we included that part,

but he was, he was basically lamenting that he hit an 86. We joke about being best friends, but like we just joked about being best friends with CJ McCollum before that. Yeah. I think Danny actually, that's in the future. Yeah, that's, we're not time travelers. I actually the shittiest time travelers ever. I actually think that Danny Woodhead is my best friend. Yeah. Close enough. Hey, Danny. Hey, what's up, Danny? Hey, pal. Yeah. Well, it was nice moving him to ask like how many times is going to be on in the fall? You can't really say no to Danny Woodhead. No, you can't. My favorite part was when he said, gosh, dang. Yes. Gosh, dang it. I'm sorry. I love Danny. I think it was, I think it was gosh, dang it. I'm sorry. It's just perfect. All right. So now

we have a coach, which will make you so excited for football season. We're going. We just said, we were just talking about this. We're going to Alabama LSU. This is a future us promise. This is one we can deliver on. 50-50 chance we're going to deliver. Because I mean, what are the stakes here? We get to go to Baton Rouge for a night game against Bama. Yeah, that sounds pretty, I think I can make that happen. Listen, we just wrote an IOU to the award-winning listeners that we're going to go to Alabama LSU game. Hold on to that. Did we say what Coach O said to you guys after the interview? No. When we come? Oh yeah. He said, oh, he'll let us hit the drum for the heartbeat. He said he'll let us go to the Saturday night meeting. Yeah.

And no Friday night meeting. Sorry. And no one goes to it. It's like the Bohemian Grove. He brought, I hope he doesn't say it to everyone. No, I don't think that he does. Well, we are an exclusive. We are football guys, guys for a reason. They can smell it on us. They're like, we want these guys around. Listen, here's what we'll do. If at some point during the fall, prior to the Saturday night Alabama game, somebody sends us a video in Tigerland or at a bar in Baton Rouge of the whole bar singing Coach O down in the bayou to drink paint, we will come down there for that Saturday night game. I promise you, I promise you that. What's the data? Well, no, it does matter because I'm sure it's going to be like the worst date

possible for us. No. Oh, it's the Saturday after Thanksgiving. That's a pretty good Saturday. That's actually a great Saturday. We know it's not. I'm stupid. November 3rd. Wait, that's a Saturday after Halloween. Yeah. November 25th is always the third Thursday. The third Thursday is always thanks. Shout out to Blake Portals. I'm going to have a big candy hangover at that point. Yeah, that's true. So okay. Maybe. Yeah. No, if we see that video, we will be down there. Maybe we get Vanny Woodhead. We fix Vanny Woodhead and we just trick or treat down to LSU. Now you're making some promises. We just trick or treat out of Vanny Woodhead. Wait. Well, as the crow flies from Boston to our New York, the shortest distance

to Louisiana is what? Tennessee. So we'll stop through Nashville, maybe catch a Thursday night Jaguars Titans game. That's perfect. I'm sure this is all coming up part of my take. All right. Here we go. Our favorite. Yeah. Our favorite football coach currently. Whoa. Should we say that? I mean, yeah. Yeah. Right now. I mean, there's a difference between it's Coach L. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. All right. It has been a long time coming. This is one of the most exciting guests that I've ever introduced. It is coach Ed O'Jaron, coach L at Louisiana State University head football coach. So it is grit week. Let's start there. We need you to define grit. What does grit mean to you? You don't stay

in relentless pursuit of what you're after. Having a focus and a goal. You know, stuff's going to happen. You're going to face adversity. We say around here, you got to block out the noise. Don't listen to the people outside. Let's focus in on a task in hand and get it done. Yeah. What were you like as a football player? You know what? Salafouz meant a lot to me. I always wanted to be a football player at Salafouz. We won the state championship in 1977. I was an all state player. I was a blue chip player. I was a good player. Won a great player, a good teammate. What would your high school coach have said about you as a player? Tough. Gritty. Yeah. Did you grow up an LSU fan? Yes, I did. I grew up LSU, watched around the

Airstream, my cousin. LSU's life here. You watch it every Saturday night. If you don't stay on Saturday night, replays on Sunday morning. Did he used to come to Death Valley when you were a kid? At the first time, no. Death Valley was for rich people. We couldn't afford it. And the first time I got a ticket, I was a recruit. I came to the rice game. LSU beat Rice, 77-nothing. That's pretty nice. That sounds about right for Rice. That's pretty nice. But that story about going to LSU for two weeks, homesick, and then digging ditches, basically right away, that's kind of a theme throughout your life. You've had these big moments, maybe a little setback you learned from it, you'll get a lot better. And you end up going to Northwestern

State University and become a great player there. Yes. Adversity and learning how to face adversity, but I had great parents that pushed me. My dad always told me I had to do everything twice. I tell my players, you're going to make mistakes, but don't do it again. Was there ever a second thought of like, I'm going to go get a regular job, sit behind a desk, or was football it for you? Never. I went try out the Memphis Showboats. I didn't make the team. I had to borrow my friend's car. I called my dad on the way back. I said, I'm going to start coaching. I went to the coach the next day. He said, I don't have much. I moved up. I took a cot out of the dormitory and I moved it into the visitor's dressing room and I worked there for free for a year. Wow. That's amazing.

So you coached a lot of good players while you were there. It's kind of back in Miami's Hay Day, Warren Sapp, The Rock. Who was the best player that you coached? It's hard to separate Cortez, Kennedy, Russell, Maryland, and Warren Sapp in college. Those were the three best players and obviously Cortez and Russell became the Hall of Famers. I mean Cortez and Warren became Hall of Famers. They were all three great players. When you were coaching The Rock, did it ever occur to you, hey, one day this guy might be president? Never. But I will say to you, he was a great young man. His nickname was Dewey and he worked very hard and he's a quiet guy, but he did have a plan. I'm so proud of him. He's a

great young man. Do you still keep in touch with him at all? You know what? He'll hit me on the Twitter every once in a while. I talk to his agent once or twice. Every time something big happens in my life, he'll tweak the support and I really appreciate it. Would you endorse The Rock for president, if you're in? No question. There you go. The endorsement. That's the easiest endorsement I've ever heard. It's very obvious to anybody that's ever met you that you absolutely love football. That's all you think about. At what point in your life did you realize that you were in love with football? I was six years old and I'd go with my uncle's house, Uncle Joe, and my nanny would cook toast bread and I'd eat about a whole loaf back then. We would watch USC play.

My uncle Joe loved USC and I watched OJ Run. I think it was 1967 and I'd come home. I told my daddy, I said, I'm going to coach at USC one day when I was six years old. That was one of my goals. Wow. What's your favorite food? You know, it's hard to mention my favorite one. I've got about a hundred of them because I love food, obviously, but I like turnip stew with pork in it, over rice. Okay. That might be one of my favorite things with fried veal cutlets. Oh, okay. I don't think I've ever had turnip stew. Yeah. How much jambalaya do you eat a week? You know what? I've got to watch it because my weight will jump up. I can't eat all the good Cajun food I want, but every Sunday we have a blast and we'll eat gumbo, jambalaya, spaghetti,

whatever we want on Sunday. That's French cheat day. It's got to have a cheat day. Diet starts Monday. That's how I've lived my entire life. At what point did you realize that you had a knack for being a great recruiter? You know, when I first had a lot of success at Miami, but I was at a good school and I loved it. I listened to Coach Johnson. I watched Tape with Coach Johnson. I listened to him evaluate. Butch Davis was on that staff. I watched him recruit how relentless he was. So I kind of, you know, looked at those guys and I say, okay, I can do this like this. I can do this like that. Then I went to Syracuse and it was a Joe Powell's early recruit and everybody I learned how to early recruit. We didn't know how to do that at Miami. So I kind

of put all that together. And when I became recruiting coordinator with Coach Pete Carroll, put all the things that I learned from all the great ones that I just did it. How has your, your living room presence changed since back in the day at the University of Miami to right now? Uh, you know, I probably keep my shirt on most of the time. You know, saxophone was the best playing football right? Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Absolutely. Shovel pass. Also, Kat likes to shovel. It was a Super Bowl. Yeah. Shovel. I've been saying shovel pass for a really long time. People don't, people don't respect the shovel pass. What about the fullback dive? Fullback dive. You know, I was good in the sixties. Yeah. It's still good today. So taking

over as, as the head coaching position at a major program, whether that's Ole Miss, USC, LSU, how much of your job is spent doing X's and O's versus kind of managing everything else? Or like how much has spent teaching, you know, specific techniques to players as opposed to just being a CEO of the program? I do not look at myself as just a CEO. I come to work early in the morning. I get that stuff done in the morning, you know, before everybody gets to work. I'm organized. I do the practice schedules. I do the recruiting, anything I need to do, any administrative stuff I need to do, take care of. And then when it comes eight o'clock, I'm off football. I'm ready to go. All during the day, I'm doing football. At night, we watch film. At night, before I go home, I check

my duties, what I need to do. I'll do it. But I'm more of an on-the-field coach. I coach the defensive line. I'm hands-on. I watch every piece of film, offensive defense. We have a saying here. If we drill it, we film it. If we film it, we watch it. If it's broke, we fix it. That's what we do. Like, is there any jealousy from other position groups, like the tight ends or the wide receivers, and that they don't get the love that the defensive line gets from head coach? Yeah, you know what? At first, it could be a little uncomfortable. But I, after individual, I will go to them. I will stand behind the offense. I will cheer for the offense. I do a lot of things with the offense that I didn't do when I was young. So I think the guys see it, but they also see the

benefit of my expertise from the defensive line, helping the team, so I think they understand. Yeah. So we have a little Lisa question. So it's promo code GRITTOR and you get $130 Doctor Lisa Mattress. You got to get a Lisa Mattress. Okay. You sleep well, you dream. What is your dream for LSU and your time with LSU? National championships. I want national championships for the state of Louisiana, for these players that they yearn for. They work for it and I want to win a national championship. You look like you're in pretty good shape, though. Do you still, you hit the gym? Every day. Can I work out? Yeah. Well, no. I'm in the weight room at six. I try to get a little half hour left. Then I go run or 11 noon. What do you bench? Well,

you know, I always can bench three plates. That's my promise. Okay. Now promise myself, after I stop playing football, anytime that I can walk in the weight room, I need to bench three plates. That's a great promise. That's still pretty good. That's a great promise. Yeah. How much squat? Yeah, you know, my squat is going down, but I don't know. I can rep out three, 15 a couple of times. There you go. That's pretty good. The most important exercise in the world. Can you tell the story about the worm? Is that true? The worm in your mouth? Yeah. So what happened there? I got the story from Joe Raymond Pease, who was a great offensive line coach at Northwestern State. Here's the story. He did it and I did it in the

spring game my senior year. It was kind of funny. After the practice, we had a spring game the next day and I was looking for worms on the field. And my coach, my coach goes and goes, my nickname, baby goes, baby, what are you down here? I said, coach, I'm looking for some worms. He goes, and there were some worms on the field. He goes, okay, well, here's the big one here. He says, baby, you going fishing? I said, no, coach, I just got a little motivational speech. I'm going to get the team. So here's the deal. So we had a big deal that night in spring game as my senior year. I was the team captain and I got up and I said, the story, there was two men fishing in ice holes in Alaska. And one was catching fish and the other one. And he looks at a guy,

he says, man, hey, how you catching all that fish? He said, man, I'm using worms. He goes, I'm using worms too. He said, yeah, but I need to feed my family. He said, the only way I know how to feed my family is catching these fish that I got to do whatever it takes. He said, I'm going to tell you my secret. Those worms got to be real warm, warm before you put them on the hook. So I keep them in my mouth to warm them up. Then I put them on the hook. I said, you know, just like that fisherman, do whatever it takes for his family to feed his family, I'll do whatever it takes to win. And I put on that big old worm right out of my mouth. That thing was crawling around in between my teeth, man. I was so glad to get that worm out of my mouth. I promise you,

but that's about what's 23 years old. That was a long time ago. You got to bring that back for a big game. Maybe Alabama game. The worm returns. Yeah. Maybe I'll get an assistant to do it. Coach O was brought to you by dollarshaveclub.com. Dollar Shave Club has everything you need to get ready in the bathroom. Any particular product that you have fallen in love with, you got to mention it here. And that's why I'm mentioning it right here. I love the shave cream that I use after the aftershave cream. They also have really good razors, there's something like a good shaving cream. It always feels good on your face. That's what the dollarshave club has. The dollarshave club, yes, that dollarshave club delivers

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He's got that Texas draw. Sounds like half stone cold, Steve Austin. Yeah. Love having Lane in. I don't know if we got any sensational quotes out of him. Big misstep on our part. We did the Mount Rushmore of Johnson's with him. We did not include Nick Foles. Ooh, I think we, I think we had a shan't handshake deal to not make those jokes. We took it to literally and we actually said people with the last name Johnson. That's true. That's true. Should have said Nick Foles. Yeah. So we have Lane Johnson, our good friend. He is up here with the Mount Rushmore of Johnson's. You ready? All right. We now welcome on recurring guest and guy who might say something that will get him

in trouble. Get us a lot of page views. Yes. It is Lane Johnson, Super Bowl champion. How we doing? We're doing awesome. We are back in OTA's and we're about to get back in. We don't even know when we're taping this in May and we might put this out in August. So actually we'll wait till something big happens. Then we'll put it out. Maybe what do you think about the big news on the Eagles this week? Yeah. Hey, what do you think about failing another drug test? I'll be in the booth in here. Hopefully we all got it. Oh man. Yeah, that would suck if we ran it right after your piss was hot. Not going to happen. Listen off the record. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. We're not going to air this. No. But if you need piss, I got piss.

I don't trust. Do I trust you? No. My piss is very hot. Don't trust me for anything piss or shit related. There's no, there's no, if you walked around the bar still headquarters like there, there's very little clean piss. We have, we have a little marsupial animal. Yeah. There's a hedgehog that YP keeps. That's probably the only thing that has clean piss in this office. Yeah. Not a lot of clean piss. You actually have the cleanest piss in this office right now. I guarantee that. Yeah. I know I guarantee that. All right. So we are doing, it's Mount Rushmore season and because it's Lane Johnson, we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of people with the last name Johnson or Johnson's in general. Yeah. I was told just Mount Rushmore

of Johnson's. Okay. So PFC is going to make a dick joke at some point. This whole thing is. Yeah. So there's actually a shitload of Johnson's. You're like maybe the most famous name I would say outside of Kennedy. Seriously? Seriously? Yeah. I mean, I looked at the, I looked at, there's a lot of Johnson's. So we got a lot of choices. We got president Johnson's multiple. Double. Did you even get, is that on your list? I know who they are. Okay. All right. All right. Is it one of your, like your grandpa pie or something? No, unfortunately not, but I could put my dad on there. He's a good Johnson. Okay. There we go. Not a dick joke. All right. So you're going to start, you tell us who goes second. Who goes second between two of us? Who goes second?

Yeah. Out of the all team? Yeah. Pick. I can't see his eyes. Okay. So I'm going to go with him. All right. So PFC will go second. I'll go third. It's snake draft. So I'm going to go third, fourth, and then we come back around. Okay. So we're, we're, wait, we're doing snake draft. Yeah. We're not high right now. So we're not going to screw up the snake draft. Sometimes we get caught in the snake, but that's not going to happen. All right. Mount Rushmore, Johnson's with Super Bowl champion Lane Johnson. Let's go. A first pick? Yeah. First pick is Dwayne the fucking rock Johnson. I know that's who you are going to take. Of course. That's why I had the first pick. Of course. That's a great first pick. Very versatile Johnson. Yeah. Yes. You can do it

off. Although smack down Johnson, act Johnson. Do you think the president Johnson, do you think he gives like publicity to the name Johnson though? Because everyone just knows him as the rock. Like if you pulled everyone, if you pulled 10 people on the street in America, do you think how many of the 10 would know the rocks full name? I think five would. Okay. Because he's, he's become Dwayne the rock Johnson. Right. He's diversified, but I feel like that doesn't really, you know, maybe the 90s. It was just a rock. Okay. We're cut like cut out half of his Instagram followers because he half of them don't know that it's John. So in his case, he's not a famous Johnson, but he is the most famous person named Johnson. Correct. So embrace

debate. Correct. All right. PFT you go. Okay. My first one is simple one for me. Magic Johnson. Not only was he a great player, but I mean the combination of the first and last name right there, that's, it doesn't get much better than magic Johnson, but actually when I'm serving, I know when you think about it, when you think about it too, he does not have a magic. Yeah, that's what's so ironic about the whole time. It's like, it's a, it's tough. Right. It's the opposite. Right. Exactly. Um, all right. That was, so those were my first two picks already taken off the board. All right. I will go then with Randy Johnson. Another great first name, last name thing about it. The big unit, baby. Fucking love it. All time, all time, probably ugliest Johnson.

I don't know. Have you seen Brett far pick? Dude, he's still probably the ugliest Johnson. All right. And then I'll go, this is tough. I'm going to go with grandma, Larry Johnson. Fuck. Really? Yeah. I feel good about the first two picks. So I was, I was dummy. I kept grandma mom. Yeah. You know what I was going to do? I was going to take Larry Johnson and not specify which one. No, you got to get a little two for there. Nope. That's grandma. Off the board. So Randy and grandma. Her Edwards would just pick Larry Johnson five times. Yes. Where's my rush? Absolutely. All right. Um, shit. Okay. My second one is going to be Brian Johnson, singer of AC DC. Rest in peace. Perhaps he's still alive. The other guy's dead.

Bon Scott. Yeah. Perhaps the best rock and roll singer is Angus is dead. No, Angus is alive. Malcolm is dead. I thought Angus died. No, Angus is still kicking it. Malcolm died. Malcolm's dead. Rest in peace. Fuck. That's sad. It is sad. When did he die? Just last year. Okay. So recently, but Brian Johnson and Bon Scott, I would say two of the best five rock and roll singers of all time sang for the same band. Okay. All right. So what's your, what do you got? Let me look, let me look. I'm going to say Michael Johnson, the famous friend because now, you know, he's, he's big time now in training. You know, he has a Michael Johnson performance center. He used to hold the records for 200 and the 400, which are now broke, but he was a, he was a big dog for a long time.

Sounds like someone's been on Wikipedia this one. Yeah. Also famous. Also another famous Johnson in the sprinting group, Ben Johnson, the guy did a shitload of steroids that he did so many steroids and he braces for his teeth as an adult. That's right. That was crazy. His skull grew so fast. His piss was hot. It's all, it's the hottest piss. He blamed it on a beer though. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well, it's a little moulson. All right. You got another peck. Okay. Let me think. Oh, 50 shades of gray Dakota Johnson. Okay. Okay. Okay. First, is that she's, it's a she, right? Yes. Yeah. It's your first female off the board. You just didn't, I had to double check. I don't do that. I don't do the 50 shades of gray

man card. Yeah. Did you read the book or you watched the movie? I just saw the previews. I heard it was very dirty. What was last book you read? Last book I read. We don't book shame here. I think I got it on my iPhone. How did I give a fuck? It's not a book. It's on your phone. It's a website. I think that's a country music song. Hold on. Hold on. I'm about to get on this. It's actually a very good book. I'm about 30 pages in because it takes me a little bit to read. Yeah. That's the same with me. Hey, like I said, no shame. I'm reading a book right now. It's taken me a long time. The subtle art I'm not giving a fuck. Okay. And I'm in and I'm on page 44.

Did you just copy and paste that from the internet into your notes? No, he's got it. I mean, we got bookmarks. Yeah, he's got bookmarks. He's taking notes on how not to give a fuck. That's a fantastic book. I'm going to have to read it. So you get a second one. No, you already did. You did too. Yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that. I've done three so far. He's done three so far. Okay. That's how we get fucked up. All right. This is your third pick and I have my fourth pick coming up and then we come back around. Are you using your computer? No, I might fourth third and fourth pick. Okay. Why are you so bad at a snake draft? My third is going to be, I'm going Jimmy Johnson. Here doesn't move. Which one?

I had that on there too. Damn it. Coach Jimmy Johnson from the U. Okay. Damn it. Okay. Cowboys. Good pick. Good pick. He does it all man. He's a Viagra spokesperson. He goes fishing all the time. Fox NFL Sunday. Just, just have some fun out there with the boys. Coach him up. What did you, what, what penises do you have on there? Cause you want to just burn those? No, I don't have any penises. Okay. We, I was going to say like we want to do Peter, Peter North's cock, Evan stone, Lex steel. There's a lot of John's. Okay. All right. Whoa. Was that a whoa for Lex steel? Yeah. It's funny because I have a friend that you got to, you got to respect his work. I got a friend of a friend who was like his famous was,

was Peter. No, he was, he was a Peter North fan. So yeah, I'm just on that. Peter North. He's got ropes. All right. My third and fourth picks. Okay. My third pick. I'm going to go with, uh, throw, throw, throw, just throw me the damn ball. Keyshawn Johnson, little coach killer. Um, and then my fourth pick is a little, this one probably people are going to be like, why the hell did you pick them? But, um, I'm going with tank Johnson, bears, legends slash guy who owned way too many fucking guns and also shout out Excalibur night club. So, uh, tank Johnson. Yeah. Just so many guns and that arrest report is like, oh, tank, that's a lot of fucking guns, man. In a state where you're not supposed to own another good

first and last name combo. You don't want to fuck with tanks. He was born to play football. Tank Johnson, born to fuck you up. Yeah. Hey dad. Uh, this is my prom date. Tank Johnson. Oh man. Okay. So PFT your last pick. All right. My last one is going to be president Johnson. Which one kind of a choose your own venture. It's up to you. So I'm going to go with the less problematic one. Well, they both sucked. Yeah. But one's more problematic because then you own slaves, Lyndon. Yeah. Also, it's, you know, I'm going to go to LBJ for mine because it's a, him and himself is a twofer. Yeah. Because you get Lyndon Johnson and then Lyndon Johnson's Johnson, which he called jumbo. Yeah. So there we go. Okay. So that's good pick. What do you got for

last one? Speaking of throw me the damn ball. You pick yourself. No, hell no. He didn't catch Philly special Calvin Johnson. Oh, that's a good one. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. Although he retired too early. He did, but he made his money and then he'll probably remember his, his career. Yeah. The lion way. Are you going to retire early? We'll see. We'll see. Will you announce your retirement on this show? I could do that or I could go to Twitter and try to be fun. Here. Go to Instagram. No, no, no, no, no, no. Breaking news. Lane Johnson will announce his retirement at some point on part of my take. Okay. We want to shake hands on this. Yeah. Okay. Let's shake hands. We will do this. That's, I mean, that's big. So every time you come

on people are like Eagles fans are going to be scared. We should have you, we should have you on like right after every single season. We'll have you on three times every off season. Yeah. You really like coming on the show. Yeah. Just be like, Oh, well he's got big news to tell. He's playing another year. So we'll just make you the Brett Farrer of the offensive line. Smashing news. We're going to be your Ed Water to Brett Farrer. We'll show up like outside your, in your driveway with a little fake mustache on reporting on every off season. Yes, exactly. Um, all right, Lane, thank you. Appreciate it. Didn't get you in trouble. I don't think. No, no, we just talked a lot about Johnson. Yeah. And your buddy that loves Peter North.

Yeah. And your buddy. Shout out to him. Can I say his name? Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to Drew Cerudo. Drew Cerudo. Way to go, Drew. Okay. Love Peter North cock. Real guys guy. Lane Johnson was brought to you by the black tux. Wedding season is upon us. You're going to be doing it big and going out to all your buddies weddings. When you're bringing a date, you want to look fresh, but it has to be convenient. That's where the black tux.com comes in. The black tux has awesome suits and tuxedos in all kinds of styles and you can rent them online. Actually, we actually saw that our good friend Ryan Racillo, he, uh, lost his bag black tux hooked him up. That's how easy it is. He had to go to

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an intangible. All right. So here is our interview with OJ Simpson. No, actually, it's Julian Elman. So, but he is innocent. OJ. And Julian. Well, yeah. Two innocent guys. OJ and Julian. Both. Two guys that played the game the right way. Yes. Both innocent. Justice for Jules. We completed our, our milestone mission accomplished. We're sitting there with a mission accomplished. Is that J-U-U-L? Yes. Because we want to be able to vape on a plane. Yeah, exactly. So we went up to interview Julian Elman last fall. Here is the best of Julian Elman. All right. We now welcome on Julian Elman, two-time Super Bowl champion. We're in his home. What's the next day after a Super Bowl like when you basically get all the injuries, you go through

everything. I mean, 2014, you went through a war and then you get drunk immediately after. How much more does it hurt the next day when you wake up? I'm not going to lie. After both Super Bowls, like our play counts are always so high. They're always like huge offensive play counts. And you're getting like in the Super Bowl, like it's like life or death. You know, like there's games where your play counts not as high. You're kind of like, it's different. And then when you're in the Super Bowl, everyone's giving, you'll see guys with just like literally giving bodies like life on the line. After these games, you are dead, like literally pooped emotionally because both of those Super Bowls were such up and down games. You're going through that. You're

trying to stay emotional. You're trying to like ride that wave and kind of stay in the middle, but you definitely feel it as a player. And after the game, you're after you're giving it like 180% the whole game, high-reven. You almost blow tires because like you're just so pooped after this game physically. Mentally, you're pooped after the two weeks of media. Careful. Exactly. But like that's only one day, bro. You got all these other family, friends, tickets. Then you're emotionally just drained after that game. Then you get blacked out, hammered drunk with your fellas like, and then it doesn't stop after day one. Like then you, you're flying back. You're doing all like the, the TV shows of this

or that. And then like you got the parade and it's just like, it doesn't stop man. So what I'm hearing you say is basically winning a Super Bowl sucks because the hangover is just the worst. It by no means does it suck, but you haven't been drinking all year. Then all of a sudden you go to, you know, I mean, I don't drink during the season. Right. Man card. You know, then after, yeah, I wish, when you get older, bro, you can't do it as much. I remember being 31. Oh wow, that's pretty old world than you. So can you actually for the rest of this interview call us, sir? Yeah. How old are you guys? 32. 32. All right. So like in your world, you guys are like 22. No, I don't know, man. We actually have a debate. I think, I think blogging is just as hard of a

sport as football. Agreed. My brain is mush. I will actually give you that. You guys are probably like, you guys are in like your working stage of like mid forties. Yeah. Like 58 or like business people. That's where they're really making their shit. There's me a class action lawsuit of all the bloggers in like 30 years because we've all just been playing with concussion for the last like decade. And also when you were playing in college, you weren't getting paid for it. So that technically wasn't even a job. We've been blogging our whole lives. But you guys were making those blogs when you first started where you guys were getting paid. You guys were just eating pizza, crushing red bowls, you know, smelling salts, then try to go to bed. You guys were out there.

They were getting flyers. They were getting flyers. The bar still flyers. Just saying. It's the same thing. Just saying. In that Super Bowl, you came back from a foot injury, right? No, the second one. Yeah. How much time did you miss? Just curious. I missed five weeks. Oh, really? That's weird because I had the exact same injury and I came into work that same day. The thing is, I was working. I just didn't get to perform in front of people. That's the thing. I'm going to take your man card because as a football guy, you should automatically know that you don't win games on Saturday. That's just test day, bro. You're going Monday through fucking Saturday. Monday through Saturday is work days. Those are work days.

Fun. Sunday is fun. Sunday is the fun day, bro. That's fun. I mean, you're in the meetings and taking care of your body 12 hours a day. Okay, so how many fantasy points did you score while you had a broken foot? No, I'm not. Unfortunately, you know. I blogged every day. We pay your paycheck. I blogged every day. I do agree with that. That's why I double edged sword on that fantasy because when we were kids. Have you ever been bit by a dog? I have, actually. That's why I'm a little scared. Yeah, me too. Even if it's a nice dog, you're still aware. You never put your guard up. You never trust an animal. Respect. Respect. Yeah. Yeah. Iron sharpens iron. The Superbowl. I have a question for you on the second one. Do you think, do you ever feel a little ashamed

that everyone's flipping out about this catch when it was pretty overrated because it was first down? It was second down, but I do. Second down still. I am, you know, I don't think about that catch when I think about this game. I think about right after, you know, halftime, we go in the whole, the whole halftime and everyone, you know, like, I'm the guy over there saying you got to believe like it's going to be a hell of a story, you know, trying to keep things up. Defense holds them to a three and out. I had a good punt return, like a good chunk, punk, punt return. Then we go one, two, third down. I have this ball across the middle. I have them and I try to make, I drop that ball and I was the guy over here, you know, the raw, raw guy, this, that I think about that third down,

how much harder it made it for us to go because we had a little momentum there. So like that's, that's what I think about, bro. I don't think, even think about that catch. I think about that drop. Yeah. Cause we're afraid that Giselle was going to call you out post game and be like, 100%. You got it. You got to stay on her good side. You got to stay on her good side because that's, that's the hand. Okay. So I heard this story. Happy wife, happy life. You can confirm this or deny it, but I heard a story that I don't remember if it was at the Kentucky Derby or maybe a private plane, something somewhere where all the guys were hanging out and West Welker was giving you shit and he was saying, you know, I was you before you were you and busting your balls

and you said, yeah, but the only difference is I make the catch in the Super Bowl and you didn't. True or false? I heard that story. Where'd you hear that one? I heard that story. From who? I don't know. I can't even remember where I heard it from. Journalists don't reveal. True or false? That, that, that is one of those, you know, it's one of those things. Everyone has banter. We all have banters. Was there, was there like, between you and West? Like just West is like, he's like an older brother, bro. You know what I mean? Like, and you know, everyone taught, we all, when you get with the room full of fellas, you guys are tossing back some shots. You went from the Kentucky Derby to the,

the Floyd Mayweather fight. You know, you're sitting there and it's one of those things where you guys get to John and it's, you know, things are said. Yeah. So that's the KO shot. Can't really come back from that. Also, Welker was probably on six kinds of Molly at the time. Just remember any of that. True. All right. Here's a good question. I googled Julian Edelman net worth. It says $9 million. Is that true? No, not, not true. It's not true. More? I don't know. Who'd you vote for? Yeah. Huh? Would you? I didn't vote. Would you pay in taxes in 2016? You pay a lot. Let's just say that a lot. When you have an employer, you're paying the most. It's like, we're not like the owners that like have like their LLC to tell you right now when

you're paying a lot of taxes. Are you just like giving away information about Bob Kraft having a tax shelter? Oh, right off that home office. I saw you playing Xbox earlier. No, I wish. I wish I could, but my office. Well, shouldn't your entire office be a home if you're working out and you're doing everything you're like, you're eating, right? You're never stopped working. Yeah. Your kitchen should be your home office. My kitchen. Yeah, it should be. Right now you're doing rehab. You're resting. Right. I need you guys working on my taxes, bro. Let's get in here. We know a lot about a lot. How often do you run something that just completely falls apart on the practice field? You're like, what the fuck was that? All the time,

man. It's trial and error. And the thing is, our coaches do such a good job of making the situations and the practices really hard. And that's where you gain your confidence, legitimately. Like they treat, like our practices are like mini games. That's what a lot of people understand. Like we don't play 162 games or 80 something games like the other sports, but we got these practices where we're throwing out 40, 50, 40 plays high tempo from period to period, you know, cutting like on turf, grass, this, that, and everything has to be at such a high tempo because if you do it in practice and you're confident in doing it in practice, that's when you perform the best in the game. And they put such high pressure of evaluating.

I mean, these guys are filming, stretching, back drills. Oh yeah. We know Belichick likes to film. Everything. PFT was, he was going to get that in. Everything's on film. You had to know that. You should know that because you should be a guy who watches film. You listen to us. You had to know that was coming. You got, hey, I'm not gonna lie. Belichick is the biggest. Like this guy, I can remember being in like my rookie year. I would go to the facility. I was just so happy. So happy to be, you know, a patriot. And like, I was just, it was such a huge thing for when I made the team and

like, just so grateful. And like, I just sitting and looking at my helmet and getting, staying the hot tubs, like at the facilities in Kent State, we never had that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Like, I wasn't used to like this. I thought it was just the coolest thing. We had towels, you know, this, like everything's out Patriots and flip flops. It was crazy. You know what I mean? You got a cool oak locker and I was so just appreciate you to pay to use the bathroom. Yeah, you got free Gatorade. There wasn't a vending machine in there. But I was there at like, I'd say they're at 11 o'clock in the night in the tubs. And one time I peeked my head in in the weight room and there's treadmills and bills got a game on that he's watching.

I don't know. I think it was like two teams ahead because he's preparing because we had a short week that week. It was like a Thursday night game that we had a quick turnaround or something like that. So he was already getting that with a huge book and he's sitting there. I'm talking like a four inch binder flipping through like plays and like taking notes while walking at like 11 o'clock at night. I hurry up and scatter out of there because I didn't want him to see me. I put my clothes on and we just so happened to walk out together. This is all in the book Relentless too. It goes into crazier details. Cut this, cut this. Yeah, you guys got to get on that. And we walk out and by the grace of God, I accidentally walk out at the same time

with him and like I haven't even held a conversation with him. I've been on the team for two years and I'm sitting there like sweating bullets and we're walking out and he's not saying anything to me and I'm not saying anything to him. We're going to our cars and I go, hey, coach man. I was just in awe. I was like, man, he it's 11 o'clock at night. I saw you on that treadmill. That's crazy. You always like this. And he goes, sure. It sure beats beating a plumber. It sure beats being a plumber. See you tomorrow. And like that's all he said. That's fucking perfect. I sit there you know, you must have enough confidence and like balls to ask him something. That's perfect. That's perfect. He's a football guy, man. Through and through. This is our last

segment. We do this with every single guest. It's called questions from a first grade class. This comes to us from Mrs. Jones's first grade class in Foxboro, Massachusetts. That's awesome. So we got some questions. Foxboro. Let's go baby. So this one is from Juliet. Juliet. She's six years old. She wants to know, did you hurt your knee because you're used to playing with under inflated balls and then you tried to carry one that was too hard and you were too focused on the ball and not your footwork. This was from Foxboro High. I mean, no, middle elementary. No way they're not asking that. I don't believe that. I think that's made up and you guys picked this school. No, because there's no way a little kid's saying

that. All right, well then. All right. So hypothetically, this is a first grader. Yeah. That's the reason. What would I, how would I answer that? Yeah. To the first grader, I would say, you know, it's what's her name, Juliet. I got a little sweetheart. No, it's not from that. And I think it's from other reasons. I don't think ball weight or PSI has anything to do with that, even though, you know, if it was a colder game, it's going to probably have less PSI. It's scientifically proven, sweetie. And that if it's a hotter game, it potentially might have more. And, you know, if we all have, you know, in the same rough area of the same amount of PSI, even if like ours are singled out and another one, you know, it doesn't really matter. We're not,

we're not worried about balls. We're more worried about, you know, it was maybe on a fundamental that I tried to conquer that I went a little overboard on on a cut. So it has nothing to do with balls. It's all about like foot and physics. Yeah, physics. If you had 10 knees would nine out of 10 of those knees have 11 out of 12, 11 out of 12 of those knees have experience problems on that cut. Is it more probable than not that that's the reason why you hurt your name? What? The 11 out of 12 of the physiology of science. Yeah. Out of the knee cut, like the actual cut of the surface. We're talking about the balls or knees. We're talking about knees, right? I don't know. We're going to the next question. All right. So by the way, I don't appreciate that you don't

think these are real questions. I just don't think a kid from Foxboro. I mean, this one is. Hey, Julian, I'm caught. I gotta, I gotta see that because I don't think she would be busting balls about that. It's right. Yeah. So this one's from Timmy. Hey, that's a pretty good question too. Yeah. Thank you. I mean, she says, thank you. Yeah. Timmy, he's six years old and from Foxboro Elementary and he said, Hey, Julian, big fan, how many chicks have you done at the same time? There's no way first graders saying that. No, that's that's a question from Timmy. Man, these kids. I mean, these kids, I mean, that's, that's why kids shouldn't be on Instagram and in social media. They're learning too fast, too much. Like that's crazy. So what was the

answer to that? Huh? I can't answer that. I got a daughter. This one is from, uh, from Henry. He's not, he's not a first grade, but he reads it at a first grade level. So his name's Henry. Yeah. Not going to say who he is. Um, he wants to know. Uh, well, yeah, listen to the question. It'll be pretty, pretty easy to tell. He wants to know. He says, uh, all of you guys on the Patriots are so handsome. You and Danny amandola and Tom Brady and everybody else. Who is the handsomest question, Henry? Yeah. The handsomest. So Jimmy G is gone. So he's off the list because he was, he was pushing the number one. He's put, he was, he's like heartthrob. He was like the heartthrob guy. He looks worse in the San Francisco 49 or red. Does he? Yeah. Just take a look at

that. Hey, I love that. You need me. I grew up in the Bay Area. I love that. Doesn't do any favors for him. That, that red doesn't make that all of a complexion like shy. I wear red and I look fat. Yeah. He's down to like a 9.8 now. Yeah. No, I don't know. Jimmy G's like heartthrob. I'd say Tom's like handsome. Okay. Dola's like hot. Yeah. And what about you? I don't, I, I, I don't know what I am. This actually was a real like, we were driving up and Hank was like, pitchers are like the hottest team. You should, we were talking about like, what should we ask Julien Edelman? And he's like, I don't know. Like, who's the hottest? That was actually quite a question that came up. We got some good looking guys, I guess. Yeah. I guess so. Um, all right,

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That's a fact. Now, I'm trying to think what else I had. I don't know. I think we're going to find out together. Yeah, let's do it together. I think someone during the Mount Rushmore suggested Hitler to me. Yeah, I actually cut that because I probably... It's problematic. Yeah, it was, yeah. So now we're going to have to cut this. You could say that at the end of his life... Be careful here. We already cut it. Listen, Hitler killed Hitler. True. He's the only person ever do that. Yeah, that's true. So he was actually the best. Yeah, that's actually a good point. Okay. So maybe put it back. Well, I had for different reasons, but yeah, that's yeah. So that stands. Good job. Thanks. End of life, Hitler. No, not Hitler. No, but Hitler did. No, at the end,

like the last breath. Good job, Hitler for killing Hitler. Yes. Yeah. All right, either way, this comeback season. Johnny Manziel. Yeah. Draft day. Johnny Manziel. All right, the July 4th episode continues. The Bonanza and we have true American Texan Johnny Manziel comeback season. You can download it on iTunes here for Mount Rushmore, special Mount Rushmore for you. Comebacks. So the best comebacks in the world, it could be sports, it could be music, it could be anything, comeback season. So we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of comebacks. How should we go? What order? Let's let Johnny start. All right. So Johnny starts and then Hank, you. I'm going last, but then we're going. All right. No, you go second. You're going back. That's fine. You go second.

So I go last, but then I double down. Yeah. So it'll go Johnny, big cat, Hank. Do you know how snake draft drafts work? Because we sometimes get stuck in it. Yeah. And around the other way. So when PFT is going to go second and then Hank, then I'm going to go last. I'll go again. I'll go this way. No, you don't go last. I want to go. I'm going to go last. No, I go last. Snakes around like this and then goes back. All right. I'm going to go last. Should you go clockwise or clockwise? Which way should we go? Who goes second? I think we should go clockwise. Okay. So big cat goes second. All right. So then Hank goes start and then I go fourth. And then which hand goes in the middle no matter what. Yeah. No,

I go fifth. No, Hank goes fifth. All right. Okay. Johnny, you start. My favorite comeback story of all time has to be, has to be Michael Vick. Ooh. Has to be the guy went to like real prison for, did some real shit for, for time, not just a couple of days, not just a, you know, a couple of weeks stand. The guy really went to prison and, and came back and, you know, played in Philadelphia and played, I mean, him and Deshaun Jackson were throwing bombs. Yeah. That's a good one. The first opening weekend of the season, like, didn't really lose all that much of a step. You know, I remember watching him whenever he was in Atlanta. The guy was a cheat code and Madden was, was unbelievable to have that happen and then

come back as, as ridiculous. That's a good one. Cause people definitely thought that he wasn't going to be able to come back after prison. Not to mention that come back out of the debt he was in out of everything he had, he had racked up. That's a double comeback in itself. The guy paid off every creditor and still like everything to do that kind of contract after prison. Yeah. That was mostly on the backs of that Monday night football game against the Redskins. Football 600 yards ran for like a hundred. Yeah. Yeah. That was disgusting. All right. My number one comeback is going to be MJ. Obviously the first one, the official, I'm back. Is it really, is it come back when you quit? No, it's, he didn't quit. He needed a challenge

in baseball. So he took it. So it was no longer entertaining. Putting out the press release, just two words. I'm back. That's, that's the best way you can come back. Okay. My first one's obvious too. 2004 Red Sox come back three, three out against the Yankees. Never been done. I was 12 years old. So it was obviously like the height, the height. I was obsessed with baseball. It's all I cared about. So Hank has never known a loser, a losing team as an adult. That's a good one though. I mean, has that happened in any other? Oh, it happened in hockey, hockey happened. No, I don't think it happened in basketball. I think the eight over a one. Yeah. Yeah. No, but hockey is the only other sport that has happened.

Greatest game. All right. My first one is going to be Jesus. Oh, I'm surprised that you guys did not. Well, we kind of knew you were going to do it. So Jesus got crossed up, came back three days later. Pretty impressive. Saved all of humanity. So a little disrespectful on your guys account, not picking Jesus number one. My second one is Danny Woodhead in 2009. Is it a comeback if you get injured every year? 2009, 2015, 2006 and 2017. So he proved he could do it. He has his own Mount Rushmore of his personal comebacks. True. True. All right. My number two is your mom. Oh, that's a good one. If you're ever in a fight and you're ever in anything and you need to come back, it's just you just take whatever they say and say your mom does that. Okay. So like a run on defenses

in fantasy draft, I'm going to have to do a little audible here. My second one is going to be the jerk store comeback. Costanza in all time, jerk stores, jerk store called running out of you. Why'd you decide that one instead of I'm rubber your glue? Because, I mean, the name of the episode is the comeback. It is the comeback. Okay. And I mean, it's everyone knows jerk store. All right. Number two for me. Number two. And you get number three. This is where we usually get tripped up. No, I usually go back. I go back to back. Oh, man, I got two already. I'm sticking with sports. I think the Reggie Miller, the eight points and nine seconds is one of the craziest. Like just turnarounds and that time span, something you can watch in 10 seconds like that and see

how the whole thing transpired to hit those threes and do that. And that amount of time is crazy. Second is two years ago is the Patriots playing, playing the Falcons is unbelievable. As a, as a avid sports guy who is very on top of what the spread is and what's going on in that game, the fact that that over hit after 28 to three, what that ended up going into overtime, the fact that they covered after that game look like the whole way, talk about the all time, good beats if you're on that side of it and coming from a spread comeback in itself. Vegas lost a lot of money in that game or Vegas. Can't believe that happened. All right. My third comeback is Vince McMahon after he was blown up in a limousine.

So he died, fully died on Monday night raw and then came back and didn't die. So that's an all time comeback. Who was it that thought that he actually died? Well, everyone, the whole world did. Someone, someone very famous thought that he actually died. You kind of went with the ruse and then I, they're like, uh, is he really dead? Hank? Was it you? I thought it was me. It might have been Trump. Yeah, but I, I don't blame him because I thought he was dead too. My number three, I'll go Texas A&M over Duke in the Chick-fil-A but 2014. So that was a great one to watch. Nice. Really, really cool. Really good comeback. They were down 38, 17 and a half. What was the half time top there?

He brought them all the way back, led them, led them, led them to the victory. I ended up being in the training room the whole time. I wasn't in there. I had to get an IV. I was, I was actually dying after, after that game. Really? Yeah. It was, it was, I couldn't believe they jumped out on us like that and just kept scoring one after another. We knew, I mean, we played in the SEC all year, played, I felt like we played really good teams and you're playing an ACC team like that and then they just come out and I've experienced that before in the past where some of those smaller schools come out and they play. That's one thing that you can't underestimate in sports is how hard a full like team is going to come out and try and physically

kick your ass. Right, right. All right. Uh, PFT year last two. Okay. Um, great comebacks. Uh, I'm going to go Kim Kardashian. Shout out Ray J. Oh, I still come back there. Nice. Like it. Yeah. You guys get what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm got it. And then come on the back. Yeah, come on the back. My, my fourth one is going to be slash from guns and roses. Okay. He actually died. So everything that slash has done since the year 1991 or something like that has just been bonus slash. Maybe he came back. Maybe it was like evil twin that came. Oh, but he actually died. Is that like, what's that? Who is that star that they said got taken away the Nickelodeon star? Remember there was that whole theory recently. Come on, Hank, this is, I'm looking at you. I

need you to come through for me here. Shia LaBeouf. No, there was the whole, oh, fuck, Avril Lavigne. Is that it? Not Nickelodeon. Not, not close enough. I gave me enough of a hint. Avril Lavigne got replaced by another Avril Lavigne. Yes. Yes. So when the other Avril Lavigne will change his comeback, Mount Rushmore to include her. Okay. All right, Hank, your last. My last one. I'm shocked you guys are bringing this up, but Dennis Taylor in the World Snooker Championship Final 1985 was down seven. Nothing came all the way back to win 97. Who could forget one of the most insane comebacks in Snooker. Wow. Do you know how to play Snooker? No. Is it just pool? It's pool. It's pool with just big table. It's pool for idiots because it's just two

different colored balls and you don't have to worry about numbers or anything like that. It's like either red ones or the yellow ones. Yeah, I like it. It's like checkers with pool. Yes. Yeah, I like that. All right. My last one is more of a hypothetical comeback because it hasn't happened yet, but it probably will. Shout out to my dad, Barry Sanders. So Barry Sanders always going to come back a lot of rumors ever since he retired. Still thinking he'd go out there and do it. I think he could. I mean, that guy's running style. That guy was, he was at the peak of his game when he retired. Yeah. And a lot of miles left. There was enough. Yeah, enough years of could Barry Sanders come back that I think it accounts as an official comeback. All right.

Last one for you. I'm going to go with, nah, I've done two, I've done one, two, and three. Oh, yeah. That's how the snake works in the tail. I'm going to go Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner, guy went, guy went undrafted, was working at a grocery store for a little bit, goes to their arena league, plays all over the place to, to come back and, and playing couple Super Bowls. I remember that game against, they played against Pittsburgh was unreal. I was pulling for the Cardinals that year. I'd swore they were going to win. And then Ralph Osberg throws that pass to the back of the end zone. Was that San Antonio Palms? Yes. Nuts. One of the craziest games, 90 yard fumble return for a touchdown by James Harrison all the way, barely gets in with no time left. Nevertheless.

About how slow the Arizona Cardinals must have been to not catch James Harrison for 99 yards. No doubt. Kurt Warner counts as like two comebacks because remember when he was on the Giants, everyone thought he was done. Yeah. And then he came back again and did we just set the Cardinals. So we have any honorable mentions? I have a couple. Yeah, go ahead. Brett Favre. We didn't mention Brett Favre. He came back a billion times. Capitals were down to nothing. Yes. Very true. Big championship. But Rafael Palmero. Oh, yeah. Still currently coming. Still going. Yeah. Currently in a comeback. I would say every single soccer player after they've gotten pretty much their legs amputated by a hard slide tackle

on the field. Yeah. Oh, future comeback for LeBron. Coming back from his pretty much broken wrist. So that will be good. Almost broken. Oh, yeah, almost broken. Yeah. I had, oh, the Roger Clemens come back just because of the Susan Waldman clip. We'll put this in here when he announced his comeback in the owner's box to the entire stadium, which is the most outrageous move of all time. Thank you all. Well, they came and got me out of Texas. And I can tell you it's a privilege to be back. I'll be talking to you all soon. How about Tebow? Tebow. Good comeback. Tebow is always coming back. Yep. Oh, Jay Cutler to the Dolphins. Great comeback to talk about that for years. Who could forget?

Yeah. Who could forget that? Any other comebacks? Steve Spurrier. Oh, return to college football. Steve Spurrier. Yep. To get shirtless again. Urban Meyer returned from his heart attack. Yep. Will we see a Nick Saban return to the NFL comeback ever? Is he too ingrained into Alabama DNA? I don't know if Mr. Terry's going to allow that. Wishful thinking. I'd love to see it. The Bears come back on the Denny Green, famous Bears who are who we thought they were. What about the Browns come back? You got to come back from Owen 16. Oh, yeah. True. They're going to have at least 100% more. I don't know how percentages work with zeros. 100% more wins unless they don't win a game.

How about Hugh Jackson? He's always coming back for his job. How about Marvin Lewis? Marvin Lewis. Tim Caldwell came back from the reports of him being dead and he did that press conference and said, I'm not dead. Danny Boykain. Drake. Do you think Drake will ever come back? We'll see. Well, Johnny, thank you. Happy July 4th to everyone. Appreciate you doing Mount Rushmore. That Mount Rushmore was brought to you by Lisa. You can get 160 bucks off at Lisa.com slash Barstool. This is the deepest discount we've ever offered. And one mattress is donated for every 10 sold and one tree planted for every order received. So the more mattresses you buy, the faster we can save the world. So if you don't buy a mattress,

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waiting for a while. Sometimes for a long while. You could be a DJ. Yeah. Just to make this mashup. So you guys could go on vacation. Okay. Are we calling this a mashup? Yeah. It's a compilation. It's a remix. It's a compilation. Okay. All right. Chopped and screwed. Fantasy Fuckboys. Let's do it. Fantasy Fuckboys get you ready for the weekend. We're giving you all the best fantasy advice that you need. Hit it, Hank. I got some hot tips coming in for your fantasy weekend. Oh, Passarock. Passarock. I am open. Passarock. Yo, what's up? This is your boy, Giancarlo. This is Nico Nunchucks. My name is no name, no name. Terry Tuto is coming at you live. This is Henry Hangover. This is Tito Pascarellium. This is Matthias Meeballs. Tony, Tony, Tony. The roast beef.

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the longest yard out there. My stardom. Hating Duke. It's Hating Duke season. Duran Davis. Fuck you. Grayson Allen. Fuck you. Coach K. Fuck you. Marvin Bagley. Fuck you. John Shire. Fuck you. All you fucks with your boat shoes. Fuck you. I hate Duke. I hate him. Hate him. Hate him. My stardom is land. Bitcoin. Currency. It's all fake. Buy something you can see with your own two eyeballs. Location. I don't trust it if I can't see it. That's why germs aren't real. AFC North Football. We got the Ravens in the steels. These two teams. You talk about hitting another guy in the mouth. I'm gonna need mouth to mouth after this game. Hopefully from some twins. This game takes my breath away. My stardom dinosaur. I lost a raptor. They need to show

the dinosaurs having sex in this one. My stardom is Cam, the scam, Newton. Pick them up like a store laptop. I'm starting dry humping. All the sex, none of the mess. Toss on the mess shorts. Lose the underwear. Just get to know your new buddy. My stardom puffy vest. The weather's down. Put on those puffy vests. Make your fat into strength. Who cares if your arms are cold? Be a man. My stardom is love. I've seen a lot of hate out there in the world. It's not necessary. Let's all get together and give a big hug. I love you guys. Take a minute. Tell somebody you love them. I love you. My sitem. All you naughty kids out there. You're getting nothing for Christmas. You heard me. Santa is real and he's skipping over your house, you little fucks. Fuck you. My sitem is iced coffee.

It's fucking winter. It's fucking freezing. Give up the ice. Go to the hot stuff. Don't be a fucking weirdo like big cat. Disagree. Be a real man. Cut your sleeves up. Twink some iced coffee. I'm swimming the ocean in the winter. My sitem is LeBron James. He opened up a school. LeBron James opened up a school. Such a hypocrite. He's the lowest scoring player in college basketball history. I went farther in education. My sitem is characters. Twitter just added a bunch and they're the worst. Fuck characters. Fuck reading. Take them out. Sit them down. Put them away. Hey Twitter, I got two letters for you. F-U. Word stick. My sitter, Matt Lauer. What a fucking creep that guy is. He's got a button that traps women in his office. That's so weird. All the moms in America trusted you, Matt Lauer.

And you fucking did this to us. I let you into my home. Every single morning, my kids watch you, Matt Lauer. You fucking scumbag. My sitem is rivers. The river sucks and it's about to be winter. All the winters, all the rivers are freezing over. Rivers, rivers, rivers, rivers, rivers. We're out of line, Matthias. My sitem is the moon. I fucked up. I got too used to the supermoon last week. I can't go back to the regular moon. I'm sitting the fucking moon. The regular moon sucks. I'd rather look at my grandmother's big caboose. Fuck the moon. My sitem, fire. Fire's hurting homes in LA. Fuck fire. I fucking hate you, fire. Get out of town. I'm a water guy. My sitem is eggnog. If you like eggnog, you're a fucking muppet. That shit is disgusting and

anyone that says otherwise lies. This is an awful tank. Lies, lies, lies. Eggnog makes me shit. My sitem is the virgin islands. Hey, virgin islands, congrats on the sex. Tonight, Tim Duncan. My sitem, playmakers. It's over. The first four episodes were okay, but now they're not on YouTube. Three and a half, to be honest. My sleeper is a laveon bell. He's so patient. He's so patient. Yeah, he's just getting a line of scrimmage right now from week one. Hit that hole. Why are you letting those blocks develop? Time to hit that hole, baby. My sleeper, Deandre Hopkins. He's available in 97% of the leagues on ESPN. My sleeper is Nick Big Dick Falls. Huge dick. Pick him up. He's available in 87% of the leagues. Ride his big dick into the

sunset. Ride that dick on the full eight dynamite falls. All right, my sleeper, Aaron Rogers. He's not going to throw for any interceptions. That's my lock of the week. Booker, my sleeper, it's a twofer. I got Josh McCown and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Start both of them. They're going to be tossing the pigskin all over the yard. I got my sleeper, it's AJ Green. He put Jalen Ramsey in his sleeper, and he's going to come back with a performance this week against the Tennessee Titans. Rock and reek. They can't play deep. Sleep in AJ Green, more like AJ Black and Blue, because he's going to bruise you up. And my sleeper is to mark his cousins. Pick him up. My sleeper, getting day drunk and passing out in a restaurant. You can't pay a bill

when you don't remember what you ordered. That's called entrapment. That's the law. And my sleeper is Rick Petino. He is suing Louisville for $37 million. That's a lot of Alfredo sauce, if you know what I'm saying, boys. Keep it on your plate. Don't let it drip down your leg. You better believe I'm sleeping eggnog, the best drink of all time. One sip, you go caroling, put some nugmeg on there. You got yourself a holiday treat. Update, eggnog still makes me shit. Eggnog's great. Tastes just as good coming up as it goes going down. Disgusting. My sleeper is hot chocolate. That is just a tasty treat. I like the little tiny marshmallows, because it makes my deck look huge in relation. Swiss mist, yeah. My sleeper is fireplace videos.

Fuck making a real fire. Just put on a video on your TV and let it play. Yeah, fuck real fires. Fuck real fires. Fuck the moon. Okay, that was fantasy fuck, boys. The time of the week where I lose my voice every single week. All right, last up, we have Vaughn Miller. He came into the office, well, January, February. Really fun interview with Vaughn. Was drinking at like 11 a.m. Yeah, I mean, he came in. He came in. I was just, I was watching something on TV, probably, well, no get up wasn't on at that point, but I was watching something at the TV here in the office. He saddled up next to me. I was like, hey, man, can I get you a water or something? He goes, how about some Hennessy? I was like, that sounds pretty good right now. So we had some cognac.

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We'll see you guys Monday. Love you guys. All right. We now welcome on a recurring guest from the Denver Broncos. It is Vaughn Miller. Do you, that's the first question. Do you remember being on this show before? Do you remember that you are a recurring guest? Uh, no, no, just many. I remember. Yeah. Sure. It was a Skype. It was a Skype thing. Okay. Yeah. I asked me about like my ex-girlfriend and like all type of stuff on there. Yeah. Okay. We talked a little deep. Yeah. We, yeah, we did. We talked about the chickens. We did. We talked about if you laugh every time you see the word buck kiss on your buck kiss trophy. You just laugh right there. Yeah. Funny words. That's the answer. Yeah. That's the answer. Hey, why don't you go by Vaughn.

That's so cool. I do. I like girls call me Vaughn. Oh, it's like they call it's like my name is Vaughn. So it's just like naturally for like, yeah, save money, but that's really like my real name. And what about your middle name? Vaughn. The B is silent. Vaughn. Yeah. But the B is silent. Yeah. I would go by that. I like that. Vaughn Miller. Yeah. But the B is silent. I don't know. Put the whole name on your back. It just, I mean, it really don't feel like it has like the ring, like, okay, you know, just think about it. Maybe I would think about it. Yeah. Maybe like if, um, you know, how they do the Dom Grady, like if you, if maybe you start quarterback, Vaughn Miller starts quarterback for the Broncos and Vaughn Miller plays defense.

I would love that. I mean, I've always been open to playing quarterback in a national football league anyways. Are you a little concerned about the fact that, you know, you're being so vocal about Kirk, because as you worried how, um, your boy, uh, Swag Kelly is going to feel about that. Or Paxton Lynch. Yeah. Paxton Lynch. Those are my guys. Those are my guys. No, you don't have to to say that. I mean, I was, I was, I mean, it is like a weird situation. It's like, you know, it's like, you know, you got to, you're in a relationship now, but you're saying like, oh, I would love to be, you know, but you're married, but you know, if that's Rihanna, if that's Rihanna, like, wow, Kirk Cousins is Rihanna. I'm just saying, I'm just the biggest Kirk Cousins fan

in the world. If it's like, if you're in a relationship, you know, your, your girlfriend would understand. Okay. Right. You got to wonder. I mean, Paxton Lynch, he's on your list. He's on your list, right? Paxton Lynch understands. Yeah. Did you sit down with like Trevor Simeone? He's like, okay, Vaughn, you can have three quarterbacks. If you run into out in the wild, you're allowed to recruit them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A little list. No, I mean, no, he didn't say that, but I would hope he would like take it as that. You know, it's, it's nothing against those guys. I like, I love those guys. I love, I love Paxton. I love Trevor. I love, I love Chad. I mean, they know that, but um, you know, to have this opportunity. You're Brock. Yeah. Brock out of you. I mean,

Brock, everybody knows, I love everyone knows G. Brock's too tall. No, I think that's the size that you want. He hasn't said you're tall like that. If you're tall like that, you have long arms in his delivery. He can, if he can master it, it's like nobody will have an arm like that. I like, I like, I like tall quarterbacks from Brock Osweiler, Ryan Mallett, Josh Allen. I really like a Ryan Mallett a lot too. Josh Allen. You did. You're the only one. We found the one, the one guy who likes Ryan Mallett. I like Ron and now hardball. Like you too. Yeah. Did he ever miss his alarm and show up late? Uh, I wasn't ever on a team with him, but he was my roommate. Wait, so you just liked him. He was my rookie. He was my roommate at the Ricky Premier. So you

liked him as a person. That is a shocker. Okay. So you love Kirk Cousins and you like Ryan Mallett. I think we have to start questioning your judgment. I think you just like tall quarterbacks just in general. Yeah. Who have rocking arms. Yeah. That comes in above the six foot three and Vaughn's like, mm, fellas, I mean, we're back to like, you know, it is, it is like we're like, if we don't get Kirk Cousins, you know, then I gotta still go back in the locker room. But I would tell him, you know, like, Hey, you know, I love you guys. Yeah, we took a shot. It didn't work out. It didn't work out. So speaking of Josh Allen, he is tall. As Big Cat mentioned, he's in the draft this year. He, he's six, five. Actually, I know a really good website you could go to if you want to learn

more. We'll pass that off the air. But he was at the combine and he met Dan Marino and he met John Elway and he thought that John Elway was Dan Marino. So what do you have any tips on how to tell the difference between John Elway and Dan Marino? Geez, I guess like time is just the rule of like, we get an old man. If you mix up John Elway and Dan Marino. Yeah. Two legends. You can look at the rings. That's one true. You know, basketball players in the league these days. I don't even remember Michael Jordan. So yeah, they think he's the shoe guy. They look at LeBron and KD and, you know, and Kobe and the guys. LeBron's the goat. Yeah. Elway is the horse. Well, Kobe's the goat. Kobe's the goat. That's a, that's an easy way that you can tell the difference.

Dan Marino was in Ace Ventura and John Elway was in Seabiscuit. He was in Seabiscuit for real? Yeah. Oh, I got it. Is John Elway intimidating at all? No, I mean, he's actually, I mean, he's actually really cool. He seems like he's an intimidating dude. No, he is. I mean, he's not. It's like, it's like when you got that grandfather that, you know, everybody's afraid of when you like give him a hug and like talk to him. You realize like he's really sweet. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, that's Elway. Do you think he drafts shitty quarterbacks so that no one can be better than him in Denver? No, I mean, I don't think, I don't think he does. It's just a loaded question. I don't, I don't think he does. John, he puts us in championship position, you know, each and every

year. I feel like this year we had a great shot to the first two games of the year. I mean, everybody was talking about us winning the Super Bowl and then the wheels just came out from underneath this. It was the bills game. It was because I bet on you guys and it was me. Yeah, I did that. Yeah, you did our season this year because I just did like the fake handshake that I did with him joking around. Yeah, that's actually 15 yard penalty and I created all this bad juju and it just, it just stayed on us for the rest of the season. You have a problem. You're addicted to doing the two slow. I am addicted to joking around. I appreciate it. That's a team player to put, put the onus on you for a bad handshake and not say it's because your quarterbacks

are terrible. No, it's all good because I mean, I could fix that. Yeah. Yeah. Just don't do it anymore. Yeah, I could fix that. The combine is going on right now and the draft is coming up. Does it kind of blow your mind that all these guys are talking about Vaughn Miller and how they look up to you? Because, you know, now that you've been in the league for a while, I saw a chubb said something. I said, a few guys said, you know, we want to be like the next Vaughn Miller. Is that a weird moment though to be like, Hey, it's like, it's like, I'm still here. Right. It's like that. When I was, when I was comparing myself to people, I was comparing myself to Derek Thomas, you know, he had, he had played 20 years

before I had came in. So it was like, you know, it was just, I don't know if it was 20 years, but he had played a long time before I came in. So I'm comparing myself to like, you know, somebody that's already done it. He's already done it. I didn't really compare myself to anybody that's playing now, but I see it now. And it's, and it's, it's dope, man. It's, it's dope. It's like, you know, getting voted for the pro bowl. Like I didn't ask for the votes. They just gave them it. I, I didn't ask for the young guys to look up to me. It's just, it just happens. How many more years do you think you have? Like, what year is this? This is your 26, 29? I probably got like 10 more. 10 more. Yeah. I probably got like, I probably got like,

I probably got like six or like seven, like real years in me. Then the last three, I just steal. You just get it on start downs. Yeah. Go name a white Franey style. Just like be a mercenary in the middle of the year. That's when you go to, that's when you go to Vichon. I just go to like, yeah. Yeah. Vichon. That's when I go to like, just pass, rush on 30 down. So, so, you know, have you had to change your game at all? Uh, you know, getting in your late twenties, knowing that maybe the athleticism, the burst isn't exactly there. It's still the same. So it's the same. You haven't felt it at all. No, I haven't felt it at all. I, I mean, I'm only, I'm about to be 29. Right. But if you change your game at all, no, I haven't. I mean,

like, if I'm changing my game, I like, I know, like, I don't have to run. It's like, I know, I don't have to, I don't have to do this to accomplish what I'm trying to accomplish, you know. I went to the Barcelona FC, Madrid match and like, I was like, dang, you know, I was just watching messy, you know, everybody's watching messing. He do a lot of, he do a lot of walking. He really don't, you know, run as much as him. Like he turns it on. Like whenever he goes, like he knows the perfect time to like go. And I like, I feel like that's the same way. You know, I'm not about to run 50 yards down the field every single play, but when it's time to go, I'm, I'm going and that's what I've learned. Like over the tone, save your energy, work,

work smarter, not harder. Yeah. I, I, I, I, if you want to play my energy for about 33 years, so I'm ready to turn it on. I'm ready to turn it on. Yeah. Your life has a battery. Don't, you don't waste it. Have you taken some time off from, from working out, like after the season over, do you give your body? I didn't work out till like a week ago, you know, like two. So how much can you bench now? I don't know. I'm, I'm sure the Ricky's, I'm sure. I know exactly how much I can bench. I'm sure the guys at the combine, you know, they got me right now. But I mean, you know, I'm like you said, before I'm born in the year eight, you know, I, um, recovery is a huge part of, you know, the game. Now last year, right when the

season ended, we, we won against the Raiders and that was a Sunday that Tuesday. I was in San Francisco training for the off season. So, you know, I, I approached it totally different last year. And you know, this year I'm just trying to recover and then I'm gonna hit it hard in the second half of the year. You're gonna spend some time with the chickens. Yeah. Spend some time with the chickens. Make sure, you know, you know, Peyton into Marcus, those guys are doing good. I got, I got chickens named after those guys. Oh really? You need to name one after Kirk Cousins. Yeah. Does the Peyton one, we get, we get Kirk Cousins. I'm gonna name one after him, his son, his wife, everybody. Does the Peyton one get extra growth hormones? I don't know. I mean,

my chickens are, yeah, they send it to the hen and then it gives it to the chicken. Accidentally just gives it to Peyton the chicken. No, you know, my chickens are organic and humanely raised. Okay. You know, who's easier to tackle? Cam Newton or chicken? Cam Newton. Because he's bigger, you know, and he's not, you know, he's bigger and it's more to grab what a chicken is like, you know, with the chickens like Russell Wilson. Yeah. Chickens never made a business decision. Yeah. Do you, do you follow Cam on Instagram? No. Oh, do you have ever seen the text? I should, I should though, but I don't. The hieroglyphics. Yeah. I see. Yeah. You think he's an asshole for that? I mean, I guess it's, it's creative. That's the one way to put it. It's,

it's creative. I mean, when you cam, you can write, you can create your own language. You can write. He did. When do you get the itch though, to go back to football? Like, when do you start feeling like, man, I really want to be out there? August. Really? Yeah, August. I mean, is that changed as you've gotten like, you know, would it, would it, would it come a little earlier? Yeah, I just feel like, I just feel like it's, I mean, it's only so much you could do to get ready for a season. You know, you know, I understand the importance of an offseason and, you know, OTAs, and I really understand that. But, you know, for me, I don't think I don't, I don't, I feel like I don't have to do that, you know, but I do. I haven't missed offseason training on once.

Was it like that in college too, where you just knew that, you know, in college, in college, just, this is what you have to do. You know, it's like, this is what people, this is what you have to do to go to the pros. And then when you get to the pros, like, we don't have to do that. Right. What is the hardest part about playing in the NFL that fans don't understand? The hardest part about playing in the NFL is the thing that pisses you off that fans like, you know, will judge you on something and they don't really understand the truth behind it. What pisses me off about the fans? I mean, it's just, what really pisses me off is like, in my comments or like somebody else's comments or like any like football players comments. And

when you see like, you know, a big buff guy, six, six, one nine commenting on, you know, Jarvis Landry's page, like, man, you should just take the money. You should just, you should just take the money. You're being greedy, like this and that. Like I hate, I really hate that. Right. Right. You should play for free. If Big Swole six, one nine was a real person, say if he was a teacher in another school offered him more money to come over here and right and teach, he would do that. It's not like he would be like, I'm staying with my students. I'm taking less money. No, everybody, everybody, you have to, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a growing process. As humans, you always want the best for you and your family. You're not

just going to take less just because everybody says, well, sports are weird in that way because it's the one part of our society where people side with like the owners, even though it's the craziest thing. Right. When you're, everyone has a boss they don't like or they're, you know, like they feel like they're underpaid for something. And in sports, it's, it's, everyone says, well, yeah, the owners, you know, the players should play with a discount. I think people feel, I think it's fans feel so a part of the, they feel so attached to organization because the organization has been there forever. Right. So if it's the, if it's the, the Cleveland Indians, you know, you like, man, I, we don't say that. We'll bleep that out. Yeah. The Cleveland I words. Yeah, we'll

bleep it out. Yeah, it's fine. We don't say that fucking name. Yeah. Okay. Well, say if it's like a baseball team, they're going to be there for it. They're going to be there for like the Braves. Yeah. Yeah. The Redskins. Yeah. So they've been there forever. You know what I'm saying? Like they've been there forever. So you feel attached to them. And then when your favorite player is leaving them, you feel kind of betrayed. Right. Right. It's, it's, it's weird. You know, it's, it's definitely weird. That's what I hate the most, you know. Okay. That's it. One last final last question. Give me a guarantee for your record next year. My record. Team record. I think, I think the Facebook show is going to go undefeated. I feel like, you know, we're not going to have

Mercury Morris is going to have to stop by and give you a bottle of champagne. I feel like, I feel like Kurt Kudz is going to be my second guest on season two of One Million Studios 58. And then we'll talk about how funny it was to get recruited and all the stuff that I did. Do you think you'll win the division on your Facebook show? Yeah. I don't, it's not, I mean, you know, I'm going against tough shows like, you know, the ball family show and the Marshawn show and Tom Brady's, you know, show on Facebook, watch what. Yeah. He's going to be making out with a son for Ray. Yeah. Sex show. Who are you going to make out with? Kiss my dad. Kiss your dad on the show. Yeah, you should do that. I kiss your dad. I kiss my dad. Kiss him with tongue and you'll get

ratings. I kiss my dad. Like, like, when I, like it's not a, it's not a big deal. Like, right. Yeah. Everyone does it. Let me see. Let me face my dad right here. Yeah. Let's get him on him. A little smoochy smooth. Ooh, to get Kurt Kuznans come out. He likes vans a lot. You should just give him, you should give him a conversion van and call it Van Miller. Van and put like a mustache. Yeah. Yeah. He loves conversion fans. I'm telling you. Absolutely. Hey, daddy. Hey, daddy. Hey, don't I kiss you in the mouth? You what? No, we kissing the mouth. You my daddy. All right, man. Yeah, we, yeah, we, I was just telling him, man, Tom Brady not the only one that kisses dad in the mouth. I kiss my dad in the mouth too. I love you to death.

But you kiss in the mouth. But we don't go there. All right, daddy. That was fantastic. And now for something completely different. All right, we now welcome on. I always say a very special guest. This doesn't even feel like a guest. This is just family. Our beautiful son. That's kind of weird. That's creepy. Yeah. I'll take it over. I'll take it over from here. It's Billy. We're so glad to see you. We're in your dorm right now. Yes. How are you 32 year old dudes? Normal stuff. Like it's parents weekend here at school. So we decide that we come visit and say hello. How are you doing? I'm like, I'm so great right now with you guys here. Like, I haven't like, when all this has been going on, I've just been like, I need to be back in New

York with these guys because like, like, I need to, I need to figure out what they're doing. I need to see how it can help. Okay. So we're going to get to your college experience thus far. We have some other stuff we want to talk about. But let's start there. You obviously see what goes on in the last couple of weeks. What were you thinking? You've sent us a couple of texts. You've reached out. You've told us that we're mental alphas. Those always are appreciated. Were you like watching us get a show, cancel a show, all that and being like, man, like if only, if only I was with my guys, like we would figure this out. I was thinking that exactly. I remember being in an airport in Indianapolis and first gang news that this was actually happening. That's right. True. And in

my mind, I was like, I'm what? May? Yeah. May. I was like, like, I'm witnessing history right now. Like this is like, you were witnessing history though. Like you were you bore witness to the birth of the shortest running television show in ESPN history. So congratulations. We're really glad to be here. Like we said, it was kind of, you know, it was an emotional rollercoaster for a week for me and big cat and being here in this room, being here, hanging out just like being college kids again. Yeah, it's not really, it's really put a smile on her face. So, so thank you, Billy. Billy, do you think you could have saved the ESPN show? Humbly. Yes. What would you have done to save it? What do I have done? You know, I think I would have been a great character witness.

Yes. To you guys. You went to John Skipper's office and you've been like, trust me, these are some cool bros. Yeah. Talk to this 18 year old. He knows a lot about life and lizards. Salamanders. Yeah. I mean, like just Mr. Skipper, you know how salamanders mate for life? Well, these two guys, they're a perfect pair together. I mean, like it's still surreal. Like you guys here is totally surreal. I've almost like this summer is almost been like a dream and just like you guys here just like is like this was real and like this was actually me and not like some other person. What did you learn on your summer vacation? Like that whisky trip with J meaning JJ Y and like kind of a herb and Kyle Long was like salesman. I mean, that was like that was the highlight of my

summer, but also just like hang with you guys. Like before, like I saw you guys like bosses and I was like, I gotta like make sure these guys are like, like do my job. But then I was good thing you got over that feeling and you started cleaning out pictures of my dick and phone number. A little too comfortable. Tuesday, I still say it was definitely your thumb. It was definitely your thumb. We'll edit that out. Yeah. So Billy, you know, you go to college, college is a place where you find yourself, you experiment a little bit. You had some news for for the three of us when we showed up here. You probably weren't sure how we were going to take it. You know, it's always kind of awkward coming out to your family and you came out to us and you said,

I've become a wide receiver set of quarterback. And I just want to let you know that whatever you do that makes you happy, we're going to support you and we're going to be accepting of you. Love is love and it's 2016. So if you want to be a wide receiver, then God damn it, Billy, go be the best wide receiver you can. I before you answers, I'm, I'm struggling with it a little bit more. PFT is a little bit more of the accepting parent. Your father's struggling, but he'll come struggling with it a little bit more. I don't really understand. Like, so you just choose to be a wide receiver? Like what, how does that work? Like you just one day were like, or did you think you were a wide receiver from the day you were born? And now

you're like finally like coming out as like, I don't, I don't understand it. I'm just confused if you could explain it to us. You know, I got to college. I got, I got, I got to college and you know, there's a lot of new things. You're independent. There's, there's no like outside pressures on you anymore. So you can really like discover who you are because of like where you are. Was there like another wide receiver that like told you, Hey, Billy, you're a wide receiver too. Did he, did he influence you? You know, I think it all started when, you know, you try some new things, try new positions in college. So I was a lot smarter in two months. I was out on the field and I, you know, I caught, I caught, caught a ball. Yeah, it felt right. I wasn't, I wasn't wearing

gloves. Yes. Yeah. Skin on skin. Skin on skin. It was like, I always remember your first ball. What really happened though? Like what was the, what was the process that, that, because I am a little disappointed, I'm not disappointed. Yeah. I'm sad because I always saw you as a quarterback and now wide receiver. Well, you know what, what happened was, you know, a stud came in in my, in my class, total football guy, son of a coach and you know, tough to beat. He was, he was doing different stuff all summer than me. Just like working hard. Like he has had one tradeable skill and that was football and he's doing football. So are you now saying that it's our fault that you're not a quarterback anymore? You know, sometimes when kids lash out, they blame their parents.

They hang with my friends and twins.