Pardon My Take - Jon Gruden In Studio, NFL Week 11 Picks And Preview, Eagles Beat Commanders + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

The Eagles beat the Commanders and PFT is down. We also bring up some great points because we're a National podcast (00:00:00-00:25:00). NFL Week 11 picks and preview for every game Sunday, Ravens vs Steelers should be a war, the Bears are dead, Chiefs vs Bills and more (00:25:00-01:37:39). Fantasy Fuccbois and our picks (01:37:39-01:43:29). Coach Jon Gruden joins us in studio as the newest member of Barstool Sports (01:43:29-02:28:30). We talk ball with him, Hooters, quarterbacks and tons more. We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:28:30-02:47:58).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Feel like the haters might. I don't know what all those things have in common. Frauds. Oh, yeah. Sometimes the haters are right. When the haters are right,... Wait, what do all those things have in common? Frauds, he's saying. Frauds. Sometimes the haters are right, and when the haters are right, you gotta say, great job, haters. If nothing, I'm consistent about congratulating the haters. I don't want to say that we're fully frauds yet, but... No, you're not! That's a tough to visual game!

And also, the commanders being frauds, nobody expected anything out of them, so it's hard to say that they're fraud however Tonight gave me some deeper concerns than I thought that a loss would give me no some deeper Not necessarily about being a fraud, but I'll tell you a couple things that gave me pause Number one what are you laughing at Hank you piece of shit you asshole you fucking dickhead apologize I was rude. Why are you laughing already you piece of shit you asshole you fucking dickhead apologize that was rude. Why are you laughing already you piece of shit? It's it's I'm laughing at Hanks laugh. I know I know yeah It's like when someone dies you accidentally laugh like you don't mean to laugh that was that was a that was unnecessary and I apologize You die you laugh when people die. I don't play you know how sometimes what sounds like you do

No, like maybe when a clown TV show or something Whatever I'm sorry a movie or TV show where like someone or someone says something really like sad or like something like he's Enthusiastic kind of yeah, okay, like they're naked ladies. I'm the kind of guy who laughs at a funeral Yeah, it had nothing to do with Jane Daniels. You shut the fuck I was just, I was just asking Hank a question. Max, you're not talking yet. Max, oh, I'm not some new hokos. I'm the coach of the show now. I'm going to talk over everyone.

Now I'm laughing at PFT. Not laughing at you, but laughing at your reaction. Fat Italian. Um, here's the thing. The thing that gave me pause about this game, the coaching decisions. Yeah. Dan Quinn, when he, when he went for it, I'm actually okay with him. I am too.

He's being aggressive Yes, three points gives you the lead in that case and we're talking about the field goal that he kicked when he was down Ten to twelve or didn't kick did not kick Elected to go for it on fourth down where it looked like the offensive line didn't have the right timing of the play was just a fumble never went anywhere bad play bad result the process I'm okay with going for it because for the first time tonight, our offense looked good on that drive and fuck it, let's just go and get two yards. We've done it before. We're pretty good on fourth down. That didn't give

me pause as much as the offense when we're down two scores at the end of the game and we burn up four minutes. I believe there's like five minutes left in the game burn up four minutes on the clock. We're running the ball We're not calling timeouts Running the ball running the ball throwing inside passes. It seemed like I don't think that Cliff Kingsbury understands that 26 minus 10 is 16 and that 16 is a two-score game 16 divided by 2 is 8 now We've gone over this on the show There's some there's some 16 point leads that look enormous. Yeah look like they're much bigger than 16 points 26 to 10 is a pretty easy one. It's the easiest to comprehend. It's the easiest to comprehend

Yes, it's not like you're skipping over two different sets of 10. It's 26 minus 10 is 16. Exactly It's very easy. It looked like the players on the field knew that it was a two score game. But the plays that were being called, it didn't feel like the guy who was calling it knows that's a two score game. And here's what this gets at is going back

to Cliff's entire existence in the second half of seasons. So back at Texas Tech, here's his record as a head coach from 2013 to 2018 at the end of the season. Lost five of six, lost four of six, lost four of six, lost six of eight, lost six of eight, lost five of five. At the Cardinals, he lost seven of his last nine. Then he lost five of his last seven. Then he lost five of his last six. Then he lost nine of his last ten. His offense looks completely different right now. We had Austin Eckler, that's pretty much it. Jaden Daniels, a lot of drops tonight.

A lot of drops out there. But no, Jaden did not look good. He didn't look nearly as good as he... That was his worst game by far that he had tonight. Missed open guys, made some questionable decisions, felt timid on a few passes, didn't look particularly fast even. I do want to give credit to the Eagles defense line.

Eagles defense line. That was the game. And the linebackers played outstanding. And your secondary played pretty good too. The Eagles played very well tonight. The fourth and two that you didn't go for the field goal, which I agreed with, that was the game because you had second and one

and they stood up on three straight plays. Yeah. So that was phenomenal. That was great. And Big Cat, you brought it up during the broadcast. I've said it before, but Cliff, without the sunglasses. It's brutal. Listen.

It's just not hot. I, more than anybody else, understand that sometimes you look a lot better when you're wearing sunglasses all the time. Yeah. He should, he should, he should keep the sunglasses on. Looks like he got pink eye. Okay. So Jayden Daniels didn't play well, but he's a rookie.

Yeah. And he had, he had a bad rookie game. Who cares? Yeah. It doesn't, it was a tough divisional game You said it before I think we all knew it going in the Eagles have a better roster They do like that's just a fact so it's not to win that game would have been very difficult You have the Cowboys the Titans and the Saints coming up. You're still a yaw steam. Yep, so

You know, pick yourself up. What percent chance Yofs are we at? On the machine or in my brain? In your brain. In my brain, 90. Still high. In the machine, probably 76. I'm going to guess.

Still high. Oh, we're in the Yofs right now. Yeah. 70. 79. That was really good. But in my brain. But we also haven't had the week 11 yet. Yep But if loss max I bow they do but what if the 49ers? Oh

But what about the 49ers? Oh, it's just like right now in this in this moment. It was like It didn't change at all. it went from 80% to 79%. Max, I apologize for calling you fat Italian. No, that's fine. I deserve that. Heed of the moment. You jumped in. No, I deserve that. I deserve that. Uh, but congratulations, Max. Eagles look great. They've turned the season around.

Yeah, I mean, Saquon Barkley is... a problem. He's a real problem. Max, from your perspective, break down this game because obviously you were nervous, you were very nervous going into this game. You can tell when Max is nervous, he was like, he kinda like slapped me on the back at one point, just kinda, before,

like this is like three hours before the game, kinda just. Knocked the football out of your hands. Yeah, bouncing around, like, you know, he was basically a little kid that needed like a weighted blanket for the last three hours before kickoff. You know I'm not good in the bright light. I know.

And you had Dave here, you had Grouin here. That was, that was a, that had Max Loss written all over it. So my question to you though is, the game, the Eagles, I want to hear how you feel about the Eagles, but I also want you to hear how you feel about Jayden Daniels because you were nervous about Jayden Daniels and he has been very good this year and he's going to be in your division for a very long time. That was your first dance with him. Tell us where your head's at. Jayden Daniels will be a very good quarterback in this league. Jayden Daniels is just, is

still a rookie and that's something that I think was very evident tonight I think it's something that you have seen a lot when he has played good defenses It's back-to-back games against two top defenses and he's looked like a rookie quarterback But that's okay because you expect that from a rookie quarterback Yeah to struggle against good defenses and to do well against bad defense. So going into this year, that's exactly what you want but Jane Daniels, I don't think is as a rookie a Super Bowl winning quarterback because no rookies are a Super Bowl winning quarterback I would still by the way I would still cut off a knot for that line Jane Daniels 22 for 32 191 hours one touchdown one interception

I would fucking don't forget you told me that was Caleb's line on Sunday Don't forget about the drop sign me the fuck up plus the drops. Yeah, how many of those yards were I? Mean a lot of those yards came in that garbage that garbage. Yeah, I mean it was Well the the drive where we kicked the field where we did not kick the field goal That was a good drive to and I wouldn't call that garbage time, right? So he got a lot of yards then but yeah I'm counting those yards. That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to say that Jayden Daniels played even an average game tonight. He played a bad game tonight. He was all over the map. He missed a lot of easy throws.

He's a rookie quarterback. He looks like a rookie quarterback. And I think he might be injured too. I'm not making excuses, but the drops and the injuries. I said that before the game. That's the story of the game. I said that, like, you could tell he's not, he's a little more tentative to run the ball ever since the rib injury. It was funny though, watching the game with Coach Gruden, he saw Jaden warming up with a basketball and he was disgusted.

Disgusted. Disgusted. What is this, man? Playing basketball out here? Disgusted. Come on. Get that man a football, man. Yeah. God damn it. This a football, man. Yeah.

He was. God damn it. This bitch. This bitch. But in a good way. Oh, man. So Max, you're feeling good. Eagles are eating too.

This is, I mean, one seed? No. We're taking it one game at a time. Really got it. Jake Elliott. Jake Elliott has enough in his history. He's given the better. Yeah. To give him the benefit of a doubt of like, this is just a one off game.

If it happens again, then you then you start to get worried. I'm like hovering over the panic button, but I'm not clicking the panic button on Jake Elliott yet. OK. That was terrible. Realistically, the Eagles should have scored 35 points in this game. Can you issue a statement to the city of Philadelphia and Eagles fans? How should they be treating Jake Elliott moving forward? Treat him like, treat him the same from this game, but if he has one more bad game, panic, panic, the, the clip of him pacing the sidelines, double tapping his head. Uh, you never want to see that out of your kicker ever. That was bad. That's like what I do.

Yeah. That's like, yeah, I do. I gotta get myself right. And I for sure don't have the mentals to be an NFL kicker. No, no, no. But I, it's good that we have a little mini buy now because it'll be even more time for him to get this game out of his head. Yep, he can watch some games this weekend, chill out. Yeah, no. Also the one seed's not gonna happen because the Lions schedule is significantly easier than.

Yeah, we still are at Ravens and home against the Steelers, at Commander, like. Yeah, the Lions have the Packers and the Bills at Home and then the 49ers on the road, so I don't know maybe yeah Hey, 49ers on the road, but the two seed wouldn't be bad either. Yeah two seeds good. I would like yeah I know You want the one seat I would like to one seat, but it's it's alright We're just gonna take it wrong the next weekend Sunday night against the

Against the Rams in LA. That's a tough game. That's a tough game. I can't believe we lost the shark week game Yeah, I was very nervous because I bet the Eagles tonight and I was when the the first half happened and the commanders were Up and the Eagles were missing every field goal and the Amazon broadcast was like yeah Dan Quinn decided this was Shark Week And he's been just showing clips of shark attacks and jaws Like this is Mike McCarthy smashing a watermelon all over again. Yeah, the problem was sure And I think Dan Quinn was there for the smashing of the water. I think he wasn't yes

We learned it for ya So the Shark Week problem is that Dan Quinn as a boomer looks back fondly on Shark Week back when Shark Week was good. Also don't think I would use Jaws for Shark Week because Jaws is an incredible movie, one of the best movies of all time, but who would like to today's age you watch Jaws and you're like, that's a fake shark. Who wins though? Does the shark survive? I don't think so. So that, yeah, Dan Quinn probably didn't know that yeah, she probably should have had do a movie where the shark wins. Yeah shark week Hank do you have any thoughts on the game? Commanders look bad. I was I was honestly thinking cuz that was a half of half a sentence commanders look bad

I was honestly thinking cuz coach Gruden on the stream also It was asked him about Caleb Williams or Drake May. Yeah he said Drake May. And he said Drake May. Drake May is going to be a superstar. Patriots have looked good. Commanders have looked basically should be on a three game losing streak. What does that mean? Whose line would it be anyway if the Patriots played the commanders next week. Where. This is what I was saying on Wednesday. In Washington. This is what I was saying. People were confusing me. You're insane. I'm just thinking out loud. This is way worse than what I did. This is what I was saying on Wednesday. Coach Gruden

said it. These aren't my words. This is what I was saying. People were like, oh, you're saying Jaden Daniels. No, no, no. I think Jaden Daniel saying. I was and people were like, oh you're just you're saying Jane Daniels better No, no, I think Jane Daniels really good Kale Williams. We got problems the fucked up nature of this podcast is this guy on the couch is Now gonna be like I got the superstar. I think I think the spread in all honesty Hank in Landover look at that smirk in at smirk in land over Hank I think the spread we we definitely have some like bookmakers that listen to this game

right tell us the hypothetical spread my guess is commanders five and a half yeah plus at home I think we're just five and a half point underdogs to the Bears the Bears quit. Yeah I just I thought it was interesting that you know he did say Drake made a steam football mind John Gruden when asked about the number one pick he said he would take the number three pick which obviously means you take the number three pick over the number two pick just thought it was interesting. John Gruden has never coached I don't think he's coached a first round quarterback.

But he's evaluated all of them. Yeah I guess. Yeah he has evaluated all of them. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. He has evaluated all of them. That's a fair point. I listen. I think Drake may is very good. We're going to talk about it actually more. And I said something about Drake may that is a very high compliment in the picks and preview, but just you asked my opinion. Yeah, I did. I did. Fuck. I did. I asked. That's what I was watching. I asked. This, I did. I did fuck I did This game is terrible. I did ask his opinion. What's your opinion about the game? The game I mean the Eagles have no kicker. That's gonna be a major problem. He's a good kicker He just had a terrible night that game. He's a good kicker

terrible night Terrible. I mean that you can't that's going to be a problem if I'm an Eagles fan I'd be very like that's a that you that's your kicker in the playoffs that game is going to creep in your mind kicked in the playoffs before he's at it he he's had a bad game I'm still going to give him the benefit of the doubt has he ever had a bad day no not even close so that's what I'm saying no the extra point was where it was really like going into a playoff game like if you're saying that you're not gonna be worried about him having a bad game, you're lying. Uh, and the commanders turned back into a pumpkin, 76% playoff percent

chance. It doesn't look good. You're, you're taking the 24%. I think I might be. I mean, they lost to the bears and the bears quit. In fact check. They did not lose. They beat the bears. But they, but also a double fact check. That was before the bears quit. That's true. Bears quit at the last play of the Cardinals game at halftime. I'm also just, this did not have an effect on the outcome of the game probably, but I would've liked to see a Hail Mary at the end of the first half yeah you're at like the what 47 yard line I agree and we just run the ball like what why not try Hail Mary he's he's lifetime a thousand percent on Hail Mary's in the NFL agreed I have one more

any quarterback can make that throw that I wouldn't try it yeah we as a national podcast need to Quinnian Mitchell is a top five. Yeah. Toledo Maxxon is incredible. Awesome things that he has done this year. He is awesome. And it looks like you guys have finally like Vic Fangio's defense. You know when it starts to work and it's starting to work. Can I read it? Yeah. Please. Against top receivers this year. Please. Packers week one. They don't have a true one one recipe gave up one reception for six yards Drake London one reception five yards Chris Alave Two receptions 23 yards Mike Evans two receptions 19 yards Amari Cooper one reception 10 yards Malik neighbors one reception nine yards Jamar chase two receptions 19 yards

Jaguars don't have a true one. One reception 11 yards. CD lamb two receptions 14 yards. Terry McLaurin zero reception zero yards. That's incredible. I mean stud that's going to a gauntlet as a rookie and being coming out. Yeah. Unbelievably. Yeah. He's he's awesome. for you max very happy. I as a national podcast we had to mention that I Don't know why you said the national podcast thing because I want the national media isn't saying anything about oh We are the national media correct now. So now we've we fixed that I max we talked a lot about rookies I want to go there. I appreciate max because we try to get it right when we can. Yeah, we do.

So in the spirit of getting it right, I'd like to correct Max. Terry McLaurin did not get shut out for zero catches. He had one catch for 10 yards. No, that's against him. Oh, against him. Oh, against him. OK.

Yeah, where was he? Because that was Cooper. He got a catch against Cooper. See, that's what worries me about Jayden is we didn't even really try to pass I know it was a lot of dump offs and like we built the entire plane out of Austin Eckler and Zacher Where were his shot plays because he's been throwing those so perfect didn't take any deep shots really That's why I think he might not be healthy and trying to play off short rest with the rib injuries probably not good for him

but Yeah, listen. I feel like I'm being quite illusional. And I will still take the 76% chance of making a playhouse. You also, and we do this every single week. And I think that there's maybe sometimes, because people listen to this at Friday morning,

when we have to record right after a loss, it is always a different mindset than like tomorrow morning. Like when you get us right after a loss, it will always be the worst and most overreacting thing. I think tomorrow morning you're going to wake up and be like, we're going to be fine. I'm going to say something good about the commander's night. One bright thing, Mike Sandristrail. Yeah. Cornerback. That's a guy. Michigan. 5'9".

Had him on AJ. AJ Brown's been cooking. Hold on, before you do this, you should say that it's because we're a national podcast. Because we're a national podcast. I'd like to draw attention to Mike Sandristrail. Tell the world. That guy is awesome.

I love that dude. He's undersized. He's a fucking, what's a different name for a honey badger? He's a Wolverine. He's a Wolverine. Like a literal Wolverine is what he is. And yeah, he played great defense tonight. When he was on AJ, especially in the red zone, he pretty much shut him down when they were

matched up against each other. So love that guy. And at least we have a good cornerback, Moonford. Plus, haven't gotten Latimore out there. This game is totally different with Latimore out there. Yeah, I would agree with that. Probably not. Okay, we just ran them.

I know, I know. Listen, I'm going through stages of cope right now, okay? So my stages of cope include, Cliff Kingsbury has been bad in the last three weeks He might be on the downside But at least that means that no team will try to hire Cliff Kingsbury as a head coach Because he's kind of taking some of that shot off. That's one of the stages of cope that I'm at another stage Is we're getting an impact free agent From the New Orleans Saints

Yeah, who's currently on a roster right now that hasn't played yet. Because we're a national podcast, Zach Bond has also been great. Also great. Badger. I thought about it. I was like, I can't do two national podcasts. Yeah, but Badger, you should have. Yeah, Badger. National podcast. Yeah, Big Cat, as a national podcast, would you like to talk about the Wisconsin Badgers

that played well tonight? Zach Bond played great tonight. Yeah. Badger. He's really good. National player of the year. Probably. Yeah. Well, would you like to Hank national podcast? Anything? Christian Gonzalez from the game tonight? Yeah. No, no, no, no. Just talk about your guys. Yeah. Luca. Luca had a great game tonight. National podcast. Oh, okay. All right. Hey, national podcast. Real quick. National podcast. We should shout out the Cleveland Cavaliers. They're 13 and no national podcast. That's pretty crazy. 13 and no national podcast. I'm looking at the standings right now. It's like, do you, do you, do you thought the cells

to be there? The magic good, the Knicks, but the cabs 13 and no. How about that? And it's like, I mean the Pistons are in there the Bulls are the six seed there must be a oh this oh the Sixers are two and nine national podcast national nine two and nine Jared McCain almost almost won the game by himself last night national two and nine the national podcast the Sixers are two and nine almost you miss do you hear Max and they almost won the game? Yeah, we got, we're building, we're building something. That was almost your third win? We're building something.

Out of 12? We got good young guys. National podcast. You just need a couple superstars to get in the mix and then you guys could have a real team going. Right, you're absolutely right. Maybe get them healthy and then you got a real team. Thanks, Hank.

Yeah, national podcast, I'm very excited. Tonight is, I think, Alabama versus Purdue in college basketball, I believe. National Podcasts, that's gonna be a great game. Love Purdue. National Podcasts. National Podcast, Blake turns one and a half years. Oh, wow.

Tomorrow. Yeah, National Podcasts. National Podcasts. We do half years. National Podcasts. Love the podcast, podcast. We do half years. Mm-hmm national podcast Love the podcast raise awareness. Love that. You should you should see you should not do one and a half You should do 18 months 18 months How many trimethic my dog is 18?

What the fuck yeah, you should do you should do months for Blake until he's like six years old Yeah, you should do you should do months for Blake until he's like six years old. Oh, okay. You should. Yeah. Bring that up naturally somewhere tomorrow. Be like, yeah, Blake is 18 months. I will. I will. It's a promise. Okay. Let's kick it to ourselves. Weekend preview and incredible interview with coach John Gruden, our newest coworker in studio. Okay. Weekend preview time. It's brought to you by our friends at Game Time. Football season is here and we can't wait to get out to some games this fall with the help of Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports.

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Who do you think would be first in the AFC? The Indianapolis Colts. No, it would actually be the Cincinnati Bengals would be eight and two. Eight and two. And last would be the Kansas City Chiefs, two and seven. Fascinating. Because they have played all one score games.

In the NFC- I love this stat. It's the best. What if the teams that were good at winning were actually bad at winning? Yeah. What if every win was a loss? Yeah. The what if standings for the NFC, Tampa Bay would be seven and three.

That's the big notable switch. Also the Tampa Bay would be seven and three. That's the big notable switch. Also the giants would be six and four. And then the saddest part about this is the Carolina Panthers should be one in nine. So they would actually get worse. So they're good and they punch above their weight class in close games. It would get worse. That's when you get blown out. The jets would be five and five memes.

Still in it. He wanted me to fact check you to make sure it wasn't the jets. No, five and five. That makes be five and five memes still in it He wanted me to fact-check you to make sure it wasn't the Jets no five and five That makes them five and five you reverse all one score games. Oh, we stink that make them top five No, they'd be out of the playoffs. Okay, even in these this what-if fantastical standings Yeah in a fantasy land you can't stink in a fantasy land I just always like looking at those because it is very funny. You should be like, yeah, what if everything was different?

So what I like about this weekend is there are like three games that are awesome. Yeah. And then there's a just heaping mound of dog shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So let's start with it. Oh, let me, let me, someone, a listener said, could you guys please say the line when you say the game? And I will start doing that. thank you to DraftKings so we will start let me pull up the current lines let's start lines right here if you just want to say the game yes it's it's we'll start with the Ravens at the Steelers okay we got the Ravens favored

by three on the road over under forty and a half. Uh, okay. So this to me is, I'm very excited for this game because it will tell us a lot about the Steelers. I think the Ravens I believe are going to be there no matter what, because their offense feels unstoppable. The Steelers, if they win this game, why, why, why not? Yeah, why not? Why not? Steelers? I already think why not. I, I, I'm very close to thinking why not. I would like to see it, especially it's Russell Wilson against the Ravens defense. Kyle Hamilton's out. So their secondary is, is banged up, has not been great all year. Their run defense is elite. So what happens when Russell Wilson when if the Steelers can't run the ball, what's going to happen? This though, is a strictly

numbers game because here are the stats and it's ridiculous. So this is 36th time Tomlin and Harbaugh have played against each other. It's second all time only to George Hallis and Curly Lambeau. Over the last 20 years, the underdog in this series is 28, 10 and three, 74% against the spread. And Mike Tomlin is a dog against Harbaugh is 12, 10 and three 74% against the spread and Mike Tomlin is a dog against Harbaugh's 12, 2 and 2 and then also here the final margins of the games between the Steelers and Ravens since 2020. 7 points, 7 points, 3 points, 2 points, 3 points, 1 point, 5 points, 4 points. These teams just play tight games. They don't like each other very much. Yeah, no love lost between these teams

Yeah throughout the record books when these teams get together. All right Lamar Jackson as a starter Yeah, has only won one time at Pittsburgh against Pittsburgh so so his only win was in 2019 and That's when Devlin Hodges duck. I thought is duck. Is Duck still around? What's Duck doing these days? I think in Nashville. Yeah, sure. Just hanging out? Wasn't that when we went to Kittle's house?

He was like, Duck Hodges? He was like, sometimes I'll throw with Duck. Maybe I might be making that up. I like that though for Duck. That's a great gig for Duck if he just goes and throws routes to George Kittle in the off season. Yeah, I like that for Duck. Duck's probably just, he's in the middle of a field

somewhere shooting a shotgun. I don't know the. Yeah, I like that for ducks. Probably just he's he's in the middle of a field somewhere shooting a shotgun. I don't know the answer but I like if that is the answer. I like where he's at in that answer. Yeah, he's probably very good life. That's a really good life. Living off the land. A for like a guy who had a cup of coffee in the NFL started an NFL game as quarterback named duck Hodges cleans up in Nashville cleans up. Yep. That's just a fact. Yeah So he's he's Lamar is one and three against Pittsburgh duck Hodges. That was the only game that Lamar has won Against the Steelers. So I love the Steelers as an underdog. I always do. Mm-hmm home game home underdog Against the Ravens this game my my onlym, this game should be at night. It should be a prime time game.

Yeah. It's unfortunate that it's not, that it is, in fact, one of the early games this weekend. Yeah. So I don't love that. This will be sound. Sound is going to be on this one. Sound main TV.

We're going to have a, this is the crown jewel of the early slate. Yeah, by the way, we have eight games, and we only have seven TVs that we look at. We have obviously the eighth TV off to our left. So I think what we're going to do is just put one game on the eight TV off to the left. I like that. And that's usually the Panthers game. Yeah. That's usually the Panthers are on a bi-week. They're on a bi-week this week. So it won't be, it won't be this week. I'm excited to see George Pickens and Marlon Humphrey go at it. Yeah. Um, I, so I saw that matchup

and I thought to myself, there's a good chance that one of the two of these guys gets ejected from the game, just based on vibes from both of them. But then I looked ahead at the Steelers' schedule and I saw Steelers playing the Eagles, I think December 15, the day of the Hank and remember that fight, Hank?

December 15. December 15, Hank's first knockout. His first and only knockout. That is going to be a matchup of the Steelers and the Eagles. And that is when we're going to get an ejection between either George Pickens or C.D. Deuce. Yeah, it will be. But it's still going to be a feisty matchup between Humphrey and Pickens if they're on each other.

Do you guys want a crazy Lamar Jackson stat? Yeah, I have one This is from dry defender RS Lamar Jackson so last week The Ravens were down 21 to 7. I believe at halftime That was the first time in 40 consecutive starts for Lamar Jackson So where he plays the majority of the game because obviously he's come out for diarrhea a few times 40 consecutive games without trailing by more than 10 points. Wow. That's insane. He also is currently still on his streak of 40. So this would be the 41st game without losing by more than seven. Lamar, like that's, that's

insane. They just don't get blown. Like the Ravens just don't get blown out. Yeah. They're, I mean, they've been a very consistent team and Lamar's been incredible and I, I wonder, did the, did the Steelers maybe show too much keeping Jayden Daniels in the pocket? They were very, very good at that. And Highsmith is out, which is big. Yeah. That's a big one. Also, uh, Hamilton's out for the Ravens. So a couple of big injuries there. Uh, they did a great job with

their linebackers and the defense line. Patrick Queen is awesome. And he's pissed and he's pissed off that he did not get a contract. I don't know what they offered him if they offered him in Baltimore, but he's pissed off about about playing up against the Ravens. And he is still playing like at the top of his ability. Yeah, he's very fast. He's there was one play last week, where it was an RPO Jaden fakes the handoff Patrick Queen takes a step inside towards the running back and then he beats Jaden Daniels to the sideline

Yeah, keeping the ball. Yeah, he's he's elite. He might be he might be spying. That's what Jerry told us He's Patrick Queen's gonna spy Lamar Jackson. Yeah, you see that there was a snake in Russell Wilson's locker last week? In his pants? Yeah, in his dick, that's what, yeah. Oh. That's what they call it. No, he had, there was a mamba mentality. There was a snake that was in the locker and then they couldn't find it, but they escaped it.

Are you saying an actual snake or is this something that Russell Wilson did and he's corny? Do you think he had like one of those fake snakes? And he used it as a motivation? If I said to you, hey, Russell Wilson put a fake snake in his locker and said it's mamba mentality time, would you think that's, I made that up?

Well, I might. I said mamba mentality. Yeah, I know. But if he had said that. If he had said that, I would buy it. I would also see- 100% buy it. I could also see Russell Wilson having a snake there. And he was like, there was a snake in my locker, tried to get me to eat an apple before the game. I turned to the Lord. I said, no. I said, I said, vanquish these Satan. Yeah, that also happened yeah a hundred percent happened okay I agree

with you I like the Steelers in this game next game Packers of Bears go on longest winning streak in the NFL tenant Matt LaFleur's never lost to the Bears, he's 10-0. Okay, so this is not correct, this is not right or justified, but this is the way that I have to mentally get myself to a point where I can think the Bears can beat the Packers on Sunday. Shane Waldron is the Antichrist. Shane Waldron caused all the problems. Shane Waldron, every war, tragedy, anything you can think of in history, Shane Waldron is the Antichrist. Shane Waldron caused all the problems. Shane Waldron every war, tragedy, anything you can think of in history, Shane Waldron was the issue behind it. That's the only, again not right, not justified. Shane

Waldron probably a very nice guy, not a great football coach but that doesn't matter. He's gone and the only way I can tell myself that the Bears have a chance is that Shane Waldron was deliberately holding the Bears back in every capacity and now everything's going to be different going forward. Also, Kenan Allen's quote where he said Shane Waldron was just too nice of a guy. That feels like it's all a mess. Yeah, that's not good. Shane Waldron, I don't know if you get the interim coordinator bump.

I don't know if that's a thing that happens. Thomas Brattwell. But there has to be an element of the offense not having to deal with Shane Waldron that just makes them happier. Yeah. You know, like when you have a guy that is clearly inept at his job, just being no longer around that guy all the time gives you a little bit more confidence going into the game. You don't know what you're going to get, but you know that it's not going to be Shane Waldron. Yeah. So what the Bears are

doing, and we've made this joke before that, uh, you know, Sean McVeigh has such a great, uh, track record that it became a part of the NFL ecosystem that like, if you got Sean McVeigh's coffee, you got a job. The Bears are testing that theory because Shane Waldron, I think his highest level for the Rams was passing game coordinator and he's gone and now we have Thomas Brown, whose highest level for Sean McVeigh was assistant head coach and tight ends coach. Now wasn't Thomas Brown, didn't he call plays for the Panthers last year? For three weeks and then Frank Reich took it back. Yeah. So we are really going to the bottom of the bottom of the bottom of the barrel of if you were in a same room as Sean McVay you know how to call an NFL offense. I don't think he does. But the Bears at least are testing the theory. Yeah. Somebody knew.

Yes. Are there reports? I saw reports that Williams and and him Tom don't talk. Yeah, that was weird That was weird. He was the passing game coordinator before that was offensive coordinator and there's been a lot of report that like they don't really meet There's been a lot of reports. There's been a lot of rat bad reports I also saw a difference between Russell Wilson and Caleb Williams. You see the clip from recinis podcast and chase Daniel It's what I've yeah done that clip a hundred times I know just the way it was all laid out tight was was yeah honestly wild what does the clip say uh it says everything i've said a million times over but i'll say real quick again they've basically uh since firing lovey smith they've gotten every timeline wrong phil emory hired mark tressman mark tressman leave Phil Emory stayed John Fox Drafted mr. Biskey fired John Fox after a year

Then it was Mattie Eberfluss or sorry Matt Nagy I get my mats confused who was there So John Fox drafted John Fox didn't even know he was drafting Mr. Biskey Ryan pasted And then Mattie Berfus came on inherited Mr. Biscayne never drafted Mr. Biscayne didn't want Mr. Biscayne and then Mr. Biscayne gone and they drafted Justin Fields and Matt Nagy then gets fired and Matt Eberfluss inherits Justin Fields didn't want Justin Fields drafted Caleb Williams and then he's gonna get fired and whoever the next guy is gonna inherit Cale Williams probably not wanting Caleb Williams. Basically a history of coaches that didn't want the quarterbacks that they had and

Then a bunch of general managers who didn't want the coach that they had Yeah, just never actually hiring the right thing at the right time at the same time. They're never on the same page as each other Yeah, yeah, it's a shit show. Hey guys, it's shit show And it's the Packers shock the world. I Told you I'm going to buy Sunday morning. I'm going to believe that we're going to win this game because I haven't connected all the dots. But where was Shane Walden on 9 11? Good question.

Just ask him. Did you see by the way? Did you see so Carl blogged it, but there was an entire blog. He found I think it was a Reddit post that essentially was like Paul skeens is a sociopath that's why he's so good at baseball and they backtracked when he was born and the theory is that his Parents had sex on 9-eleven the butterfly and they basically like blocked out all the noise of 9-eleven and and created Paul skeens today Now was this a little too much how early in the morning? I don't know just like before you get out of bed

It was just yeah, you know, you don't know the exact time but yeah It was people have way too much time on their hands, but I did I did think it was interesting. He's born mad Yeah, we like Paul skeins on this show. I love Paul. Yeah, I mean it was a sociopath in a good way like he's locked in he's so locked in that he'd like path in a good way. Like he's locked in. He's so locked in that he'd like his ability to lock in and outside noise and just like mow down hitters. Like that's why he's elite. It wasn't a bad thing for me. Yeah, I know. Good guy. Yeah. Very good. Yeah. Um, okay. I don't have anything else in this game. Packers are going to kill us. You never know. You never know. Division matchup. I want big cat to be back. I'm going to bet on the Packers are gonna kill us. You never know. You never know. Division matchup. I want Big Cat to be back. I'm gonna bet on the Packers. I'm gonna say fuck it.

No, Bears. Sorry, yeah, bet against the Packers. Betting on the Bears. There's no reason why the Bears should win this game. Absolutely zero reason why they should do it. But the NFL is a weird place. Weird shit happens. And chaos happens. You need an ugly game. You gotta get an ugly game going now for you need ever lost here's a recipe you need you need Jordan love to throw one of those weird like behind his back pick sixes get a defensive score you need Caleb to just do handoffs kill I hope that I hope that the new offense coordinator doesn't have Caleb doing all that weird shit the line of scrimmage I get it if you're

like Peyton Manning or if you're Tom Brady if if you've been in an offense for a long time, have them direct the offense. Why are you making a rookie quarterback do that? It made no sense since week one. Nothing made the level of responsibility that you put on Caleb Williams. When Caleb hasn't done shit in the NFL yet, let him go out there and make easy throws. Don't have him trying to direct the symphony that is the weird fucked up Bears offense. because even if even if he's able to know all the plays and tell players where To go it's still gonna be a bad result to these shitty plays that they're calling Don't make him feel like he's got too big a part of that failure right off the bat give him easy shit to do It's all I mean I everything you said is correct Whether they do it

Yeah, probably not. It just makes no sense to have a rookie quarterback. None of it. And to put that much on him right now straight off the bat. The guy's he's mentally locked up because Matt Eberfluss is a fucking idiot and they're just doofuses and Kevin Warren tried to cancel Big Ten because of COVID and he's the one who's calling the shots and it's just I hate everything. Everything sucks. We're just back in an exact same spot.

What about bare football? What continue football big cat. What about handing the ball off to you running back? It would be nice and not letting not letting him get sacked off time. Not been great. It'd be nice. I actually wouldn't hate it to if Caleb Williams threw an interception in this game because maybe he would be taking a shot that actually was close to someone. You know what my red flag on Caleb is throwing deep balls that aren't even close to being intercepted.

Know what my red flag is? What? He hasn't even cried this year. Yeah, he should cry. I mean, the knock on him was he cried after bad losses. He's definitely cried this year. Well, he hasn't cried on camera. In private.

I mean, I've cried in private. So he's definitely cried in private. But I mean, there was something about him last year where he was taking losses so hard that he was crying. Yeah. I'd like to see the man cry. It's a disaster. We're walking into a disaster.

Also, uh, our good friend, Bear Down Cuzz is going to come on, uh, on the stream on Sunday from, from Bob Doe sports universe. He was on, he came, uh, last year. Yeah. Great dude. So he'll be with us on the stream. So at least we'll have an extra. The bear, they're going to be on no sound. I just whatever we'll see we'll see they suck they suck everything sucks

the organization's joke They've ruined Cale Williams socks speaking of the Bears being frauds, did you see the no, they're not frauds You see they're bad. Do you see the clip that came out from California about the fraudulent bear? Well, but the bears aren't frauds. Okay, but did you see the clip in California? So apparently these people are under investigation for insurance fraud. Every now and again, you see a camera, like a ring camera or like a security camera of a bear that climbs into somebody's car looking for food and mauls it up and tears it up from

the inside. Apparently there's been this group of people that have been dressing up as bears wearing like scissors on their hands, climbing into cars, scraping them up and then collecting all the insurance money because the car is totaled or the inside of the car is all fucked up. So they got like a human wearing a bear outfit, climbing into a car, trying to look like a bear and then scraping it up on the inside. I just thought that was an interesting- I would love to be a fraud. Yeah.

We were frauds at four and two. Dude, that's what I'm saying. Being a fraud, I'm loving life as a fraud. Real quick, I want to just go around the room. I'm holding a number underneath my chair. One to 10, 10 being Wins the Suit Bowl, one being he's out of the league in like a year and a half. What do you, what do you think about the future of Cale Williams? Be honest.

You're only holding one hand. So it's gotta be between one and five. Well, yeah, duh. Three. Okay. Seven. That's a lie. I said, be honest.

I would say higher. I would say higher than this, but the fact you only have one hand, I'll say five. Okay. For one hand, I'll say four, but I think he's an eight. Names got it. I think he's an eight. That's where I'm at. And it's not Caleb Williams. The organization is a fucking joke. Well, do you extend that same grace to the offensive coordinators that come in? Is it the bears just working for the bears that makes offensive coordinators suck?

No. Well, we hired the worst offensive coordinator on the market. Yeah, that's true. Jackson Smith and Jacob were left when he got hired We all knew this was gonna happen. It's not revisionist history. It's just wishful thinking that went totally awry. Okay Raiders at Dolphins We're back to Gardner Minshew. What are you gonna say Max? You had something else? No, I had nothing else. You were looking at me like you want to to say something No, I just like Caleb Williams memes likes Caleb Williams. I love Caleb Williams. You could get who knows who knows it's year one You could get it. There's not you guys

Appreciate you guys is out there. I appreciate you guys being nice. I really do as friends You don't have to kill Williams is the best quarterback prospect since Andrew look. Yeah times. Did you hear that Max? I agree. Caleb Williams is still a good quarterback. He just needs to get in a comfortable system. He needs to not be surrounded by a hurricane of shit. And he needs his players to not hate him. He needs his wide receivers to not hate him.

DJ Moore's gotta get out of there. I said that! Let me, okay, all right, how about this? What if Caleb Williams right now, what if he was on the open market as a for a trade easily he's not What do you give up for him first round? All right, you can have him I take him first round pick he's still your first round pick quarterback I'm not trading him. There we go. See that's all we need. That's all I'm not that's all we needed you to say. It's bad, but I'm not trading them. And these

ends are going to beat the Packers. And Shane Waldron was the reason for all of this. Uh, Raiders at Dolphins line. Oh, we got it right there. Yep. Raiders at Dolphins. It is going to be seven minus seven for the Dolphins. Okay. Uh, Hank, you do the lines. Over under 44. Okay, Hank will do the lines. So we're back to Gardner-Minshew. Also we have to be full disclosure. I think I speak for both of us, PFT, when I say that we're rooting for the Raiders offense to have some success because our friend Scott Turner is now the OC. We like Scott Turner.

And Norv Turner, his dad is working as a consultant with the team. Love that. Norval. Bold with Scott Turner in the 2019 Final Four in Minneapolis. I said Minneapolis. Minneapolis had a great night, great time. Nose Brother too. So we knew we loved the Turner's. Yep. I don't know how the Raiders are going to be able to run the ball though. And I think that's what Scott Turner wants to do. Yeah, it's going to be a challenge for him. Although we're getting Florida man, Minshew true. Good. So, so you're always looking for what kind of spark you can

get out of Minshew. We always say if you put Minshew in as a backup quarterback, you get a spark. I feel like in the state of Florida, that's when're gonna get pure Gardner mint you I know he's not from Florida, but he's got big-time Florida energy to him I like the possibility of him doing some fuck shit this weekend. Yeah now. This is a rest game, too It's a it's a big time week big time rest game It's a bye week for the Raiders, and then it's a short week for the Dolphins, who played on Monday night. So you might say to yourself, that heavily favors the Raiders in this situation.

But the Dolphins are five and oh against the spread when they are at a rest disadvantage since 2022. So the Dolphins don't need sleep. They're like sharks, just keep swimming. Also, Chuo said he would do it again. Yeah. When going head first into a tackle. I think he also said that just discourages me

from throwing interceptions. Sure. Yeah, whatever it takes. I think we have to stop the hand wringing about Tua. I know that everyone wanted him to maybe walk away. Tua knows what Tua knows at this point. I mean, if he's going to jump head first into people, it's like, what are you going to do?

Yeah. What are you going to do? Yeah. I mean, Tua wants to play football. He wants to play football. You can't stop someone. I'm a believer in freedom of choice. You should be able to do this. Yeah. The Dolphins, so they are just coming off, I believe they cut their team captain, which hardly ever happens. I can't think of another time that a team captain

has been cut mid-season. Shane Waldron was our team captain. Yeah, he was. And Desmond Ritter is now being talked about by certain segments of Raiders fans as being the answer. So that's kind of a sad state of affairs that you've got in Las Vegas right now. Desmond fans as being the answer. Ooh. So that's kind of a sad state of affairs that you've got in Las Vegas. Desmond Ritter is the answer.

I don't know what the question is. Yeah. What question could Desmond Ritter possibly be the answer to? I think this game, the Dolphins are second in pass blocking. The Raiders are 29th in pass rush. But the Raiders do do a good job. They do the Chiefs defense where they just don't let

explosives down the field. I Think it might be a little tighter I just don't know how the Raiders offense does anything and it's not because it's got Turner. He's very good play caller Yeah, yeah, ultimately this might come down to to football guy verse nerd Yeah, who do you take Antonio Pierce or Mike McDaniel. Okay, next game. Colts at Jets. Colts at Jets line, Hank. That was your only job.

Right here. Jets are minus four. The over under is 43 and a half. You do the lines now. I got the lines. I got the lines. I got the lines now. I can do the lines.

I just don't know. You have other things going on. I just don't know what game you're gonna go to. I haven't pulled up. I haven't pulled up. Yeah, Max hasn't pulled up. I haven't the lines. I just don't you have other things going on. I just don't know what I have Max has them pulled up. I haven't pulled Hanks out. Okay, Max Colts Jets memes Jeff Olbrook said to the team that they're gonna return to Fundamentals of tackling and being pads and they needed a tackling presentation for the team before practice. What do we think about that?

Sometimes you got to keep some things to yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Some media training for Jeff. Yeah. Don't say anything. This is why Jeff isn't, you don't have a head coach. No, he ruined all chances of becoming a head coach. He was gonna get some interviews in the offseason and now he's... I don't know if he was. Was he? No, he was predicted to get some. Oh really? Yeah.

Oh. But then he got promoted to head coach and now he's dead. Who told you that? Tyson Bajonstad? Uh, bunch of Florios. Okay, yeah. Bunch of Florios. You hear the good Florios. You've got two Florios on your shoulder at any given time and depending on what mood you're in, you listen to the angel or the demon.

This case, I don't feel like Jeff Ulbrich was gonna be like a real hot name. He would he would have got some interviews He got some interviews. Okay memes Here's some good news for you When Aaron Rodgers was asked if he's gonna play in 2025. He said I think so. Yeah Yeah, I'm kind of fired up yeah, yeah All right, so real quick memes I. I had a question about Jeff Ulbricht. I got to, this is really bad for me too because the Jets and Bears are an equal hell. So you being fired up just shows how ridiculous I am whenever I get fired up.

Hold on. I said kind of fired. Hold on. Did you take that as like a, I think so, yeah. It's not an answer. You said, I think I'm fired up, as if his answer was, yes, I'm back. I just got to see who the coach is.

Well, this is also tremendous inconsistency from you, Mews, because you said, I believe, last week that you hope that he retires. Yeah, but it's a roller coaster room for the Jazz. OK, so right now, where you're at, at 3 10 p.m. on Thursday, you want Aaron Rodgers to play next year and you're kind of fired up about him kind of wanting to play next year. Yeah, because you could go all in in the offseason.

Let's put it this in this analogy, OK? So I have I have a garage at home and every now and then I'll forget to hit the garage door when I leave. If my wife texts me and said, did you hit the garage door and I say I think so yeah, she's like fuck he didn't do it. Yeah. That's it. I think so yeah is not a good. That's a that's a lot of no and I think so yeah. I mean you got to see how the team looks in the off season.

Did you remember to do this? I think so yeah. That's pretty much, well now I have to go, did you remember to turn off the oven? I think so yeah. Yeah, I think the idea of Aaron Rodgers, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback, is good. But Aaron Rodgers right now is not good.

Yeah, so. But I just wanna keep believing that he's gonna have that Aaron Rodgers performance And maybe next year is that year what what other former friends of Aaron Rodgers would have to get signed by the Jets for you? To be like yes, we're rebuilding. We're all all in again David back to Ari. Okay. Oh the missing link Yeah, I'm missing like I have some news on memes is mental headspace right now. Oh no. Before we started here, memes said, memes goes, I hope that they lose this week so that they can just die. Oh.

And I picked up on what he said and I was like, wait a minute, if they lose this week, they're dead? So they're not dead yet. I think so, yeah. And he goes, well, if you look at the percentages, if they win this weekend, they're actually still alive Yeah, they bounce up to 20% memes are the Jets dead right now

Technically no, okay. The answer there was I think so. Yeah, I You never know cuz that gives you a little no Yeah, no, I if they win they could technically. All right, so what is a perfect weekend look like? The perfect weekend actually happened last weekend. Yeah, I know, which is why you were like, but you were down after the perfect weekend. Yeah, so they'll win and everybody else will win. OK, so you'll do you'll hold up your end of the bargain. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on.

Can we just remind the listeners what happened to the Jets this weekend? Yeah. Defense doesn't travel. They got killed by they got smoked. What? The memes memes I'm just I'm living one week ahead of you Yeah, we got smoked by the Cardinals and I was like it's over we walked into that Patriots game I was like we're gonna lose this game. You need to get in line The Cardinals are just our graveyarding teams. Yeah So would you rather go up against Joe Flacco or Anthony Richardson this weekend Joe Flacco you would per so So you don't like the mall to Anthony?

He's actually right because it we can't stop the run. Yeah, I imagine the switch to Anthony Richardson was they watch the Cardinals film And we can't tackle and Jonathan Taylor and Anthony Richardson are just gonna run the ball. Yeah every single That would be crazy if Shane Steichen didn't throw a pass. Yeah. Shane Stikin said, well, he had a quote about Anthony Richardson. He said over the last two weeks, he's made strides, big time strides and becoming a pros pro. So we got pros pro Anthony Richardson coming in. I don't know what that means. The problem that Shane Stikin, I like, I always thought that benching Anthony Richardson, we've talked about this was kind of weird because You're not probably not a playoff team, but then they're like, maybe we are a playoff team

You don't lose the locker room get that whatever the problem was They said that Joe Flacco was the future like or the starter going forward They should have just said Anthony Richard needs a couple games to get his head on right and then you go back to him because now You're going back to him Essentially saying we're not going to the playoffs. Yeah, the Colts, they should just say whoever has the best week of practice. Yeah, they should just honestly, they should flip a coin. Open competition. They should flip a coin and just take all just be like, hey, we're just going to go this way.

That way, no one loses their. All right. So we I think we can all agree that at some point this season, the Colts are going to go back to Joe Flacco. Mm hmm. Right. Probably. And probably. Well, definitely because they have the register might get tired. That's Probably. Probably. Well, definitely because then the Richard might get tired. That's true. But I mean, as a starting quarterback, yeah. If he gets tired from hard weeks practice, I think they will. The real question is, are they going to, are the, are the Colts going to go back to Anthony Richardson this season? I think so. Yeah. So, okay. We're going to get back forth back. I think so. Yeah. At

least one more time. I like that. I like that. And is there any rule that says that you have to name a starting quarterback like before before the actual game? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. It's actually a great answer because you just give yourself such a great out. Yeah. Like, yeah. Well, I didn't say yes. I said, I think so. Yeah. So when, when Aaron Rogers says, I think so. Yeah. At returning, is he thinking that he might get a job in the administration? And in that case, he won't be back. Uh, I, I think so. That honestly wouldn't be the most shocking thing ever. Would it if you got to work for the government? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think his odds are better. Yeah. Then did you see the, uh, did you see the deep dive into Aaron Rogers on ESPN? Did you read that You got to work for the government. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think his odds are better. Yeah

Did you see the deep dive into Aaron Rodgers on ESPN? Did you read that article? I did not yeah, it was uh, I Mean it wasn't anything new. It was basically like this guy, you know, he's a legend. He's hurt he's doesn't have his mobility and I think the biggest issue is that he he demands perfection and a lot of the players In talking about it like they were talking offensive lineman wide receivers that you have to be perfect and on his wavelength And he doesn't always explain what his wavelength is What does wavelength mean like you got to know where he wants you he wants everything specific like he wants you He wants to know that you're gonna be at this spot at this location At this part of the drop like all that side

It's the Mike Williams play that ended that game against the Bills It sounds like something that an offensive coordinator should be in charge of yeah, but they don't have one. Yeah, we don't have anything I didn't realize he referred to Nathaniel Hackett as his best friend. I didn't realize he was best friend. Yeah, that's crazy best friend Too nice of a guy. Too nice of a guy. Okay, next up, Browns at Saints, Max. We're gonna get this eventually.

I got it, I got it, I got it. I was so confused. I was like, neither of these are my teams. It is, it is. Memes are in charge. Browns minus one against the Saints. You're jumping all over. No, no one knows what game you're gonna go to Yeah, but it's all right there. Yeah. No, it was really right. It was very next one. It's on there I just panned it cuz normally you say max when it's Eagles. Yeah, either of these are my teams

No, I just I went I think I went off of How ESPN had him listed so? Okay, Brown Saints. I love the Browns in this game. I think we're back with Jameis. Yeah, also big news out of Browns camp this week, Vrabel is back on the field. Oh. Vrabel put on the practice jersey and went out there took some reps at defensive end. Now it was it was the red non-contact jersey. I expect more from Vrabes I was hoping maybe some pads and cleats. I actually do think he was wearing cleats

but yeah, he's back on the field and Jamis revenge game. Mm-hmm. I can't miss revenge game. I kind of I also just think that the interim bump is you can only do so Much it's over. Yeah, it's it actually I was looking back at the game on Sunday the Falcons and the Saints I actually think the interim bump ended at halftime But they were able to hold on because if you look at that game The Falcons out gained him by over a hundred yards the Falcons had I think it was 11 more first downs The Falcons ran for 181 yards on the Saints the Saints just got

off to a hot start they they went with passion and fight and then they were able to hold on to the last second that was a little misleading this Browns coming off a bye Nick Chubb now feels like he might be fully this might be the Nick Chubbs all the way back yeah yeah that's how I'm feel I don't hate that the only counteraction is if the Rizzler clogs a toilet before this game Yeah, that's what he's got to do. He's got to take a massive massive dump He has to bring bounty gate back, but this time it's about paper towels. Yes, he has to so yeah I mean, I just think the Saints Saints are 30th and pass blocking the Browns are fourth and pass rush

The the Saints can't stop the run The Browns are gonna want to try to run I Think I'm backing on James back in. Backing on Jameis. Yeah, let's let's let's get some weird stuff going here, Jameis. You know the building, you know how you know where everything is located in that town. You're going to show up to the game, give a big pregame speech. It's gonna be excellent. I think I like the Browns. Yeah. Okay. Rams at Patriots. Okay, Rams at Patriots.

Rams minus four and a half at the Patriots. You know what, next week when I write all these down, I'll just write down on my notes the line, so I can just read it right from my notes. That was my mistake. But it could change. But it could change. It could change. Could change.

Hank. I'm going in optimistic. Probably the first time that, you know, I'm working my way into actually rooting for this team and being excited about games. I think we could win this game. I like how Drake may have been playing. It's been exciting. The Rams are a good team, well coached. There's a chance that Sean McVay, you know, just absolutely alpha is the fuck out of Mayo and they score like 40 points. That's definitely a possibility, but I like our chances.

I like us. I like us hungry dogs. What about Drake May's speech? It's a great speech. He gave a candidate for speech of the year. So he addressed the log. He asked the offense coordinator permission first, permission to address the offense, permission granted Drake.

And then apparently he stumbled over his words a couple times but the message got across and to Mario Douglas heard it and said okay it's serious now now that Drake May is taking leadership on yeah we got a leader we got a leader we got a good quarterback the the players are bought in they believe in him I think they're gonna fight I have I think the Bears quit so I think that was a little misleading that's fair not from Drake May I think Drake May is pretty good I Drake May is like he's kind of he's kind of got a little Josh Allen he likes to take off in a couple you know the interceptions if you can Josh Allen through a lot of interception first year like bring them down like I I'm not saying he's Josh Allen

But I like Drake made what I've seen I'm talking more about the Patriots defense They had nine sacks which was oh, you know They had 16 going into the week against the Bears then they had nine against the Bears Yeah, and the Bears offensive line is a joke. I don't think you can pay too much mind to that That's what I'm saying. I think I'm excited for the Patriots offense I think there's a chance that the defense, you know again in McVeigh's a really good coach and Mayo is not the most experienced So this could be a serious mismatch Rams offense Pat's defense and the Patriots could lose but

We're at the point the season where it's like I want them to win and I want the Patriots to play Well, even if we lose I just, I just hope that the offense looks good. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, your defense looked good last week. The Rams offensive line did not look good last week, but it's one of those tricky things where the Rams went from being very injured, so you can blame poor offensive line play on just having stopgap guys, to then now you can blame their bad offensive line play on

getting their healthy players back and not having any chemistry with the rest of the offensive line and they didn't give them much help. I think they used 12 personnel 9% of the time in week 10 which is like 25% lower than what they've been doing all season. Yeah. Yeah. The Rams. Yeah. It felt like that was the week they got healthy but not all the they need a game under it Yeah, and the Rams have to win like they are still very much alive What's the weather gonna be like though? That is? Rams cross-country that's a long trip. Yeah, also who's keeping the light. I

Don't know who's keeping the light in Boston on Sunday. It's gonna be nice. Okay, 42 59 obviously chill that's a little bit outside of that, but looks like it'll be perfectly good weather. Sunny, sunny, 50 degrees. Did you watch the season finale of the Aaron Hernandez sports story? No, I haven't watched the season beginning. Season finale is interesting.

The guy that had watched it still. What happens? Kirk Minahan happens. Does Aaron survive? Basically, what they did was they did a full season on Aaron Hernandez life nine episodes on his life his family His career and then episode 10 was Kirk Minahan. Yeah, I saw the clips. I have to watch the whole episode Yeah, Kirk Minahan basically like yeah, he did it. He was the villain He is the the brand the broken of the season of American sports story is ridiculous. Yeah

Wait till Aaron Hernandez dies. He does he does he does so I gotta watch him too. I Don't know if there's gonna be season two. I did see the Kirk had a full He had a full Movie theater packed to watch it was very funny. Yeah, so I gotta watch that. I haven't caught up on any TV Yeah, I mean that's I started like six different shows And I don't just hang one. I heard that I am so good I am I was so good. I started the Menendez thing. Maybe two episodes haven't gone back Yeah, okay. Yeah, I gave up on that shrinking. Sure. He's awesome

I know but I can't I just can't I start it and then it football comes back on penguin penguins good Okay, hang with your time. I don't want also the Aaron Hernandez just because the guy that plays Matt Patricia I'm Robert Kraft. You've said that about like ten guys. I mean the Matt Patricia guy What they did was they basically put a visor and a pencil on Max and then just had him sit in silence and they're like, here's sounds like Matt Patricia. Yeah, that does Okay next up. So Hank, optimistic, also excited to watch Drake May. Yeah.

I think that's fair. I'm glad that you're excited finally. Yeah, you finally got what we were telling you. Yeah. And if he gets hurt. Rookie quarterbacks, watching rookie quarterbacks can be fun. If he gets hurt or if he gets

If he gets tired during a play and has to take a spell we going back to Jacobi Burset or is this Joe Milton? Okay, if wave if that happens, I'm back out. Yeah, you're turning it off. Yeah, okay. Mmm Vikings at Titans Vikings at Titans max that would be the Vikings minus six at the Titans. Oh Yelled that well I got excited because I was quick with it. Yeah, you were quick with that uh I Don't know what to make of this game because I still believe in the Titans defense And I think Sam Donald's slipping, but I also know that Brian Flores is probably gonna cause Massive havoc yeah, this is uh this is his wet dream is going up against Will Levis. A man who gets, uh, he gets excited easily. I'll put it that way. Yeah. I kind of want to take the Titans in the first half. They've, they've played good, they've played good football in the first 30 minutes of

every game or not every game, but a lot of the games and then they just fall apart. Yeah. I just, I, I, I go back to that matchup Brian floors is tough enough to deal with if you've been in the league for a long time Yeah, I feel like he's he sees a quarterback with like Lots of tattoos on his throwing arm and he thinks to himself. I'm gonna I'm just gonna fuck this guy up this week Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Max just pulled up the Titans are still first in Defensive yards allowed they're also 11th in DVOA. They're a good defense. Everything else I don't know what to make. They can get run on though. Yeah, a little bit. They can. The last three weeks they've

had like 137 rushing yards per game against them. That was also the Lions though. Yeah, that's true. That was Jameer Gibbs like 80 yard rush. Yeah, that's true. I saw an article that said that Sam Donald could actually be the yard rush. Yeah, that's true. I saw an article that said that Sam Darnold could actually be the Titans quarterback next year. That's perfect. As a bridge quarterback. Oh my god, is that perfect. So this could be a test drive for Sam.

If you're the Titans defense, are you being told, hey, let's see what he can do. Let's run some different patterns. Let's mix up the coverages to see how he would fare against certain types of defenses so we can get a scouting. I'm mad I didn't think about that. That couldn't be a more perfect fit. It would be a great fit, right? Yeah Okay last early game Jaguars at Lions

Jaguars 13 lines 13. I see in 14 14. I saw me on me. I saw me earlier today is 13. It's 14 so That's on me. I some earlier today is 13. It's 14 so The Jaguars have been underdogs of 13 plus points How many times since 2010 since 2010 since 2010 13 plus points a lot that doesn't happen often in the NFL 11 6 18 times 18 times they've been 13 plus point underdogs since 2010 to put in his perspective since

1970 the Pittsburgh Steelers have been 13 plus point underdogs one single time. Hmm, that's That's quite something. That's quite something. Um, they pay these guys to play football too, but this is Doug Peterson's firing game It's a bye week next week Trevor Lawrence is hurt. Matt Jones is going again. I have I have this circle this quit watch I I'm predicting Over one and a half interceptions for Mac Jones this weekend Mac Jones is a foreign 15 against the spread in his last 19 Starts his Dunderdog Yeah, it does feel like a blowout It feels like a blowout early and then a quit because this if you're gonna fire Doug Peterson in season

It's gonna be after playing the Lions going on a bye week that all just kind of tracks, right? Yeah, so and they'll and the Lions I I think they're the I Think they're the number one team I would trust with a double digit spread in the NFL right now. Yeah, I mean their offense has all the weapons. It feels like they can score 30 points against anybody. And the Jacksonville secondary is like one of the worst. They don't have a single person that's in the top 50

at pro football focus. Yeah, and it also feels like the Lions are just like, they're so dialed in. They're just push, push, push. What was that face Hank? You're going to take the Jaguars? I think so. This is like, this is the NFL makes no sense game of maybe the year. Really? Don't you think? No, they won't be able to pass the ball. What if they're going to get, they're going to get at least 35 points scored on them? I I like you releasing that though. That was for free. Just say AWL's No, Hank just released his the NFL makes no sense game of the year. You're talking money line. I Will be taking the spread. I'm that you're no no, no, you gotta take money line after after making that statement Well, I will I mean I'll definitely take a money line personally

I probably won't put him in the hungry dog and I'll take but I'll take them spread for well I won't give away my picks. Oh, man, but I will take them Jaguars if no one else does and also I love the fact that Jared Goff through five interceptions last week. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, he's not gonna do it again Yeah, got him out of his system agreed agreed Okay. Oh you want you want a crazy stat this is a mind-blowing stat that I found Aiden Hutchinson is still fifth in the NFL in total pressure yeah that's pretty not they were saying that he probably would have broken the all-time record yeah if he stayed healthy he hasn't played in weeks also

this is from sports info solutions the Jagars have given up 11 yards of play versus play action passes this year. 31st. The Lions are pretty damn good at play action passes. But the NFL makes no sense game of the year. So now I'm in a pickle. Yeah. So Hank, how confident are you in this pick? In plus 14? Yeah. Confident. What about Moneyline? Not.

But I will do it. But it sounds like you're supremely confident at plus 14. I am. Really? Yeah. I, I, NFL makes no sense. It's not, there's not like stats behind it. I'm very close.

But that, but it happens every year. There's always games where it's like, how the fuck did the Lions lose to theuars when the playoffs come? I don't think it's going to affect their seating. I don't think it's going to. I love this energy. Like it'll be, you know, oh yeah, the Patriots lost to the Bengals. Like the, the, that was week one. So it's not, it's harder for that to happen. It's like when Doug Peterson said after the last game, you wouldn't understand. He's talking about like this type of game. You don't understand. The NFL doesn't make sense to you. Okay. So I, I'm very close to now releasing my Doug Peterson is going to get fired after this game game of the year. Very close. And here's the only thing I'll say to you, Hank. I know what you're saying. There is always one or two of these

games. Can I interest you in a different option for this? Sure. The Kansas City Chiefs beat the Buffalo Bills. They're 10 and 0. Next week they play the Carolina Panthers. Nah, it's the Chiefs. The Chiefs have, the Lions don't have the Chiefs, the Lions have the opposite of like the Chiefs black magic.

The, Jack Mack, our guy Jack Mack said, I just saw him tweeting about it that, I guess it's like a trend on TikTok right now that people are making memes about the Panthers ending the Chiefs undefeated season. Like that calling their shot? It's like, yeah, like everyone's just making hype videos a week and a half in advance.

I like that. Listen, the Panthers have 14 days to get ready for the Chiefs. Yeah. What's- They're dangerous with 14 days? What's Bryce Young's record off a long breast? Dave Kanellis is dangerous with 14 days. Mm-hmm.

Dangerous. I just like that the internet's getting ahead of this. I mean, it would be so funny if it happened and they just called their shot. This would be a shocking... Can we watch one of them memes? Can you find one? If Hank's right, this is a shocking result. Yeah. This would be a shocking shocking result if this happens All right means gonna find one for us before we feel like this is a matchup of two teams that never play each other

Yeah, I'd agree. It does feel like lies in the Jaguars. Yeah, never seen that before Panthers and Chiefs also. Yeah big time. Yeah big time to haven't played each other All right So before we watch this video and get to the afternoon games Pardon My Cheesesteak football is back in full gear ordering Pardon My Cheesesteak for your game day meal or late night eats It's the best play call you can make. You can order the popular Big Cat combo, get your cheesesteak of choice, fries and a drink Find a Pardon My Cheesesteak near you or order yours now at PardonMyCheesesteak.com Use code AWL for free delivery. Pardon My Cheesesteak. Go get it right now. It's a perfect, perfect meal for football.

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I wanna see the memes that are going around about the Panthers ending the Chiefs perfect, which again is 10 days early. Because they still, they might have a, oh, Max just had to do, are you a human? Drag the slide thing. All right, let's see this. We're going to, who's going to stop the Chiefs three Pete. I like that the Panthers have their swag back a little bit. This is what I love about and kind of miss about having just like everything to complain

about is it forces you to find creative ways to love your team. This is yeah, because like we haven't seen this fight from the Panthers in forever. Oh, hero. It's Bryce Young. He's throwing one of his multiple touchdown passes he's thrown. I love this. I love this. I love this. Good spiral.

That was maybe a pre-season game. This is great. I like it when they also mix in like a dropped pass into the highlight reel. Yeah, okay, so good luck to the Panthers in the, that might be my, the NFL Makes No sense game of the year. Yeah, okay afternoon games We have the Falcons at the Broncos. I

Think the Broncos are going to get off the mat here and respond very well And I think the Broncos are gonna win this game and I think we're gonna be like what's up with the Falcons Can they win this game. And I think we're going to be like, what's up with the Falcons? Can they win a game? Well, fun stat about Sean Payton, because I was thinking about this game, Payton going up against an old NFC South opponent. Sean Payton this year is three and oh against the NFC South, his old division. And not only is he three and oh against the South, he's absolutely fucked them up. Yeah. The only team that was within 14 points was the Carolina Panthers. So Sean Payton revenge, the feisty Panthers. So they have a plus 56 point differential in NFC South

games. I, I like the Panther or excuse me, I like the Broncos. They just replaced their, their field for a third time, third time, three years in a row brought in new grass. It's Kentucky bluegrass. And they surprised Sean Payton with it. He didn't know what was going to happen. He's like, Oh, it's beautiful. I love your new field. I love it. Thank you. The Broncos are two and a half point favorites. I, here's why I like the Broncos in this game. The Falcons cannot rush the passer at all. 30 second and pass rush tried it. They don't blitz. They don't,

they don't do anything. Just don't get to the passer Bonix with time lethal bow leavers. I think this whole podcast are we all both believers? I've been a bow leaver since week one. I've gone back and forth, but I'm officially a bow leaver And the bronzes are good. That's all you need to say a pass blocking. Yeah I mean, I've been scarred by bow nicks in college college, so it took me a little bit, but I'm now a Bo Lever, fully. Welcome aboard. Yeah.

I feel good about being there. Bo Lever. I don't know what to make of the Falcons. I think the Falcons, they're the perfect team that you would put into the slot of losing a wild card weekend playoff game. Yeah, that makes sense. I think that they're good. I would like the Bronx, I would like the Bucks

to maybe get that spot, because I feel like the Bucks are more, I just like Baker. Yeah. I just love Baker. Now, Memes is gonna be watching this game like a hawk. Oh yeah. Like a goddamn hawk.

Oh yeah. You need the Falcons. He needs the Falcons bad. No bigger Falcons fan than Memes this weekend. You need the Falcons bad, you, no bigger Falcons fan than memes this weekend. You need the Falcons bad You need the Chargers bad too, right? And Then you would be that that would make you almost all the way back Almost all the way back. The playoff percentages are hilarious on the playoff picture on NFL comm

Yeah, but if you get those if you would be if the Bengals obviously the Colts would have to lose you have to win You'd be one game back memes and we have a bye after the Colts. Oh Wow, get some people healthy and healthy. Okay, I might believe in this too. Yeah, there's something this is Another game where these teams have never played each other. Yeah, right. Yeah, so well, especially in in Denver in Denver It feels like the Falcons are not an altitude team yeah this is the weird match up week the young thug can't go to this game he can he's allowed to yeah he oh yeah he can yeah he should go to all their road games yeah he should absolutely okay Seahawks at Niners Seahawks at Niners Niners Seahawks off a bye the Seahawks we talked about the Dolphins cutting their captain.

The Seahawks cut their leading tackler, which is a little weird. Linebacker Tyrell Dodson doesn't really make sense. Geno Smith has never beaten Kyle Shanahan. But if we're going off of like what team needs something more, the Seahawks, this does kind of feel like their season. Like they have to win this game. They have to. They have to avenge the loss from earlier this year. The 49ers are getting better on offense.

So their offense, without Christian McCaffrey for most of the season, they are plus 1.4 net yards per play. Which is the second best offense in the NFL. But their red zone is bad red zones back below 50% one of six teams that are below 50% but but that's maybe the cap yeah back is gonna help that out a lot this is why I'm not I'm not out of them on the Niners at all I feel like this is this is perfectly Niners yeah out this slow and then they put their foot on the gas yeah there the

the NFC West no one's run away with it. So yeah, the Niners are gonna be in a fine spot. I just, yeah, this is the Seahawks season. Off a bye, you got the spot, you're playing in the division. If you can find a way to win this, your season's still alive. If you lose this, it's gonna be big, big trouble. It does not make any sense

to cut your leading tackler, does it? No, I don't get it. It's like how much more would you tackler does it? No, I don't get it. It's like how much how much more would you like him to tackle? Yeah, I don't get it That seems like a problem if you're mad that he has that many tackles It's probably a problem with the guys that play in front of him Yeah, cutting your leading tackler cutting your team captain weird moves. Yep. All right last one No in the afternoon The best one chiefs at bills chiefs at bills In the afternoon, the best one, Chiefs at Bills. Chiefs at Bills, we should start, as always, Patrick Mahomes is 12-1-1 against Spred as an underdog.

That needs to be said. That needs to be said. That needs to be said. That needs to be said again. 12-1-1 as an underdog. The Chiefs are winning games by the skin of their teeth. Are they playing with fire? I don't know because the like I would say that that the university Miami they've been playing with fire all year

and they got burned and they got burned. BYU has been playing with fire. They've been playing with fire. I don't think that the chiefs have been playing with fire. I think they've been grinding it out. I think they've played with fire. I don't know if they're playing with fire right now. They've played with fire. They've dabbled in fire. They've dabbled in fire little match. The Broncos game last week was definitely dabbling with fire. That was definitely like, you know, like a little kid lighting some grass on fire being like, Ooh, this is cool. Yeah. Also sometimes playing with fire just kicks ass. Yeah. And I, this is more like a fire witch, like game Game of Thrones like blood sacrifice situation that they have going on go

Okay, like we was at the redheaded. Yeah She got old yeah, I know but then she got hotter but it's like they've yeah they've they've They've done some crazy shit to get to this spot and that might be the fire they're playing with but it's not it does It's because Patrick Holmes Patrick Holmes and it's Andy Reed that if it were any other team, I think we'd be like, they're fraudulent because they keep getting these crazy endings and they, but you can't say the chiefs are fraudulent because they've done it before. And they might just be like you said, tough.

There's a part of me that thinks that maybe the chiefs have intentionally not blown teams out so that they can learn how to win and be comfortable winning close games. That would not like Andy Reed when he, when he dials up the weird shit in the red zone, where he does like ring around the Rosie, he's got Travis Kelsey throwing like shovel passes to Patrick Mahomes, that weird stuff like Andy Reid sometimes I think tries to put his team in very complicated situations to build up their mental toughness. Yeah, I agree. Uh, I'm worried about, so Keon Coleman, I believe is out. Dalton Kincaid is most likely out. Amari Cooper is trying to come back.

It does feel like a lot of that's a lot of guys. That's a lot of guys that the bills need to be full strength. And again, Patrick Holmes is an underdog. God damn it. The one thing that makes me bullish on the bills here, Sports Info Solutions has the stat, Chiefs Blitz the fourth most in the NFL. Josh Allen has been the most efficient quarterback against the Blitz this season. But what makes me like the bills is that the bills take the ball away. Yeah, that's what makes me like the bills too.

Yeah. Yeah. They take the ball away a lot and Patrick Mahomes loves throwing interceptions. He does Did you guys see Matt Collins quote? It's the most Like trying to inspire yourself for no fucking reason quote of all time He said that he does not take elevators on away trips And on game days Because no one is gonna carry him to success Mmm, I like that. He's built like that. He's built like that.

How ridiculous. How are you gonna show your coach how much adversity you can respond to in a stuck elevator situation? He said when they get to the hotel, the team will, like there'll be someone from the team who will be standing by the stairs being like, Mack, this way. Yeah. No shortcuts. Take the stairs. I'm fine with that. We have an elevator here in this office. Yeah, no shortcuts. Take the stairs.

I'm fine with it. We have an elevator here in this office. We have two floors. I take it all the time. That's probably why my great grandfather sucked at football. Yeah. Loved the elevators.

Took the elevators success. OK. Yeah, I'm so excited to watch this game. I just keep getting burned. Wait, what is this? Harrison Buckers hurt? Harrison Bucker is out. Oh. He's got a knee injury. Oh, that's actually huge. All right. I might be bills now because that does feel like a field goal.

Here's what worries me a lot. Here's what worries me a lot. Big cat. The guy that they signed was off the jets practice squad. They signed a kicker. He's going to be incredible. Kicker. We don't have a kicker on the roster. They signed a kicker who was not good enough to make the jets as a kicker. Oh, he's gonna be incredible kicker. We don't have a kicker on the roster They signed a kicker who was not good enough to make the Jets as a kicker last week So who's your kicker now Anders Carlson? Oh? Swedish guy he's bad on the packers really bad on the back, but one game with 49ers He went for four or five from oh my god One game but He went for four or five. Oh my god names one game

but One that's that's about as low as you can get sign one game sample size for a kicker Signing the Jets backup kicker No, but that imagine how bad he was in practice. No, no, that's to be like be like mmm no that's no this is starting kicker That was no kicker, so he's on the practice squad right now They move they move a jet and bring land game okay now this seems like it was just done Only to piss memes off But I would put the GM of the Chiefs as a top floral right now because he just did this to fuck with and I'm now

I'm back on the chiefs because Hank won't what is this game the blood whatever you said blood blood magic blood magic the Jets? practice squad kicker kicking a like 57 yarder to beat the Bills Of course, it's also an Anders Carlsen missing a kick to beat the Colts. Those two things are gonna happen Don't forget about that one game though. Yeah, the one game to beat the Colts. Those two things are going to happen. Don't forget about that one game though. Yeah. The one game sample size. You went four for four. Yeah. This also Andy Reed being like, we need to learn how to win in tough situations. Let's take our great kicker, the best kicker in

the NFL and we'll sub him in for a guy that can't make a kick. Yeah. And we'll see if we can overcome him shanking some shit into the fifth row. Just a little bit of adversity. Yeah, just a little bit of adversity me Memes you crack me up memes he so he was on the the He did not have a game. Oh, he was five for five in two games. I Believe it was two games. I thought I thought it was just one but either way fire those two games Total he was five for five Ratings bonanza in this game rating time ratings bonanza. It's gonna be an awesome CBS is jacking off to this

Ratings bonanza on mute. Yeah, okay last game on Sunday Bengals at Chargers boys this is There's a huge one for our Chargers Chargers minus one and a half at home against Bengals is a huge one for our Chargers future Yeah, Joe burrow o and two against the Chargers. He's only played it against Justin Herbert once the over-under Is pretty high on this game, isn't it? Yeah. Isn't it like 48? But the Bengals just make everyone go over. They do make everyone go over.

Joe Burrow leads the league in incredible, incredible performances where he ends up losing somehow. I love the Chargers here. I love how much Harbaugh loves Herbert. I love that shit. So we said on Sunday that he started telling reporters that we're gonna start calling Justin Herbert beast Herbert her her beast I think it was just beast most Herbert and then you watch the miked up of Harbaugh during the game and you can see the second

That he decides that he's a beast and then Harbaugh goes around to the entire coaching staff all the other players and tells him for The rest of the game. He's a beast isn't he? He's a beast. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's a beast. He loves them. Uh, Bengals 27th and pass blocking Charters six and pass rush. I also just think the Bengals. So I was thinking about it more because I don't want to give up on the Bengals, but I'm also thinking about giving up on the Bengals because Are we getting fooled a little bit by the Bengals playing the Ravens really close twice? Maybe they're just built to play against the Ravens because their other wins are against the Panthers Giants Deshaun Watson and Raiders and in our heads we're like

But they basically beat the Ravens twice. So maybe they're just engineered to play the Ravens close. Correct. Now follow me on this. I guess they did play the Chiefs close too. The Chargers, excuse me, the Chargers have a shitload of old Ravens players that they brought over. So does that mean that the Bengals are built to also play tough against the Chargers? And they're a Harbaugh.

And they're Harbaugh's. I'm excited for this game. It's a great Sunday night game, because it's basically if the Chargers win this game, they basically end the Bengal season. The Bengals win this. They're back. And by the rule of the Harbaugh's, no team has gone 2 and 0 against both the Harbaugh brothers

this year. Yeah. Is T. Higgins going to play? Is he ever going to play again? Feels like he's making a business decision. He's expected to return Oh, okay, so he's back, but we don't know we're gonna find out more probably later today tomorrow Yeah, I feel like there's there's maybe a little business decision, which he should do. Mm-hmm

If you don't give a new contract Why wouldn't you be like I'm not gonna get injured? more On a season like I'm gonna wait to get injured more on a season. Like I'm going to wait till I'm 100, 100% healthy. That's so funny watching the Bengals having to cross the street. It's brutal. So again, just remind everybody the Chargers are the fourth team in the last 40 years to hold opponents under 21 points in their first nine games of the season. Oh, only been done four times. The defense is legit, legit. Our friend, John

Gruden, who's coming coming up did point out that uh The quarterbacks they played have not been great. That's true So you have to play that game in in fairness you have to play that game as well where you're like, okay They beat up on some bad quarterbacks and Joe Burrows a really really really really good quarterback. I don't know. This game's great I'm just gonna enjoy you know what I think Vegas got it right. I like that I think that's all right hats off Vegas I actually don't think I'm gonna bet this game because we have our Chargers future so it's we have bet this game I'm this game is massive for the Chargers. I'm betting the under in this game. I cashed out you did

Yeah, do you got an option to cash out? Yeah for like half oh Hank I added more 35 I'm just horrible. Okay. What can I say? You didn't catch our Travis Hunter. Did you know? Oh nice? Okay, okay? You can come no you can't okay you you physically can't or you you I don't think they let you cash out futures

Say you won't do that to us You you I don't think they let you cash out futures say you won't do that to us No, I like I I won't because I can't got I'm not saying I wouldn't got it in theory. Okay, let's do our touchdown Prop parlay and let's do our picks Every day is game day trafficking sportsbook now through the end of the year. It's extra special All customers will get a special daily promo every single day from ProfitBoots, OddBoots, No Sweatbets and more.

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Uh, touchdown parlay. Let's hit one. I lost Hank back in Hank back in. I'll go JT, JK Dobbins. We'll leave it up to the night game. Let's get the first two legs. All right. Hey, Dom's is minus one 15. Anytime someone told an AWL tweeted me after the show on Friday. He's like, you, what you guys put in was doomed to fail. Cause you had no conviction. So let's have conviction pft you have conviction i have conviction i am a 12 man jury of one and i'm convicting this motherfucker okay jimmy r gibbs oh i love your gibbs i love it i guess the jaguars he's minus 150 yes that's fine that's fine that's fine hank conviction sorry big cat i am gonna go easy a Bet that I feel like is is not gonna be hard. They're gonna score a lot of touchdowns. I'm going Josh Jacobs

He's minus 145 touchdowns. Don't apologize, but yeah, what you see what let's see one through. So what are we at? What's this? What's this parlay up to? Should we had a fourth? Let's get three let's get let's get three you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right Okay, we gotta do our picks too What are the standings? We're all bad. I'm hot you are if I'm for no, that's for but what are the standings? I'm 500 mean Hank. So 10 you're in first. Yep. So we're all bad speak for yourself. Number one is in is 500 So we're all bad. Speak for yourself.

Number one is 500. Four and oh. Me and Hank 10 and 10. Big Cat nine and 11. PFT eight and 12. Max seven, 12 and one. Okay, we are bad. That's bad.

We're bad. No one over 500 is bad. It's okay to be bad. All right, who's up first? That'd be me. I'm gonna go Kansas City Chiefs. Bills over 46. Fun over.

Fun, fun, fun. Fun in the Sun I Am gonna go Jamis revenge browns minus one shit All right wanted that I'm going to go with the Niners minus six and a half Against the sea hosting the Seahawks They went by 12 on the road without McCaffrey. I feel like six and a half doable. All right I really wanted that one max your son of a guy you did that to me last week. It's true I'll take the Denver Broncos minus two and a half against the Atlanta Falcons a good pick. I

Will be taking the Baltimore Ravens at the Pittsburgh Steelers under 48 and a half Lot of hard-fought defense field goals. Not going to be letting up touchdowns easy. Forty and a half is a lot of points in my humble opinion. And then I'll be taking the NFL. Doesn't make any sense. Game of the year. Jaguars plus 14 at the Detroit line. Okay. I'll take the Seahawks Niners over for me. That was mine! Yeah!

Got your back! Yes! I'm gonna go with the under in Vikings Titans. 39 and a half? That's a good pick. That's a great pick. I love it. I love this pick.

PFT, that's a great pick. Thank you. I love it. I wanna marry this pick. I love complimenting each other on picks when we're so bad. But you know that's a good pick. It's a great pick! Yeah, it's an awesome pick. I actually don't care if it wins. I'm just happy with how good of a pick it is.

Everyone's had great picks so far. I'm a process guy, not a results guy when it comes to gambling. Yeah. That's how you know I'm good. I'm lost right now. I'm gonna go... I'm gonna go with... I'm gonna go with... This is awful. Bangle, no. This is awful. I don't like that.

Well, I always have just one pick and then you robbed that of me. I'm gonna go... This is awful. This is awful. Hank wants to kill you right now. Memes, you go. You go. I'll take the Texans minus

seven okay that did nothing for me I needed I needed more of a spike oh I'm gonna go Packers Bears over 40 and a half that's a bad pick I like that it's a really bad pick now that was a terrible pick why pick I did the bear I mean the that could easily be a 34 to 3 game yeah good for sure that would be an under but maybe Caleb's good now it was good yeah I mean, that could easily be a 34 to three game. Yeah, it could, for sure. That would be an under. Maybe Caleb's good now. Maybe Caleb's good. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't like that. It's a weather like on Sunday. It's gonna be nice. I think it's gonna be nice, yeah. Bomi. That's an over number. That is. All right, let's finish up with Fantasy Fuck Boys

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What's up, please what's up, brother? It's Rico McRocco Son very Rico McRocco. So do you hey you a little bit you got the mick in you a little Irish boy Yeah, my Irish Italian best of both worlds. My stardom this week is Duck Hodges. He's not in the NFL, turns out he's selling real estate, and he's dating country star Laney Wilson. Oh, good for Duck. Good for Duck.

Duck, Fox. Duck, Fox, and he fucking sells. God cleans up. God cleans up. My sit-em, pray to God, Jake Paul. I don't think it's pray to God, Jake Paul. I don't think it's gonna happen, but I hope so badly that he gets fucking knocked on his ass and knocked down, sits down forever, hypothetically knocked out.

Not forever, but like for, you know, 10 seconds, fight gets called. Would love to see that. Don't think it's gonna happen though. But I really want it to. Tyson's a bad man! He's old. My sit-um-er, my sleeper. JMo Williams. Jamison Williams.

Jamison Williams. Jamo, take a shot. Jacksonville, 32nd rank, pass defense. And they allow the most Yospa pass play. Gonna get a lot of points. I love that. It's gonna be a shootout. Jags are gonna win, but Jamison Williams is gonna go all. He's got a little surprise in the trunk waiting for the Jaguars if you know what I'm saying. a lot of love that it's gonna be a shootout Jags are gonna win but James Williams is gonna go off He's got a little surprise in the trunk waiting for the Jaguars if you know what I'm saying. I love it

Hey, what's up? This is Alex Jones from info wars calm prison planet TV. They sold my website So this is the only place that you can hear Alex Jones. What's up, Alex? I'm starting this weekend I'm starting folks the New England Patriots folks. I'm starting to Patriots. I've got the documents right here I love New England's defense shutting down the Rams You can bet on a Patriot act to be used to prevent any future McVeigh's from creating explosives. That's a fact Love it this week. I'm sitting CJ Stroud CJ Stroud is number seven in your programs I call this guy Building Seven because he collapsed

the other week even though the Jets never really hit him that bad. My sleeper is Anthony Richardson. He's like Dr. Fauci taking so many unnecessary shots. The people are waking up, people are waking up. Expect a lot of false flags from New York Jets. Google operates in Northwoods. The Jets are Lazare people. Oh

Lazare people what's up guys? What's up fuckers? It's Tony macaroni. Hey Tony. What's up? macaroni My stardom this week is going to be the Dallas Cowboys and Cooper rush. I don't know I feel I have a feeling it's my NFL makes no sense game of the year. The Coo-Coop- you like that? I like the phrase. You like the phrase! You're my blood magic game of the year. You like that? Yeah.

My sitem is- What time is this game being played? That's uh, Monday night. My sitem is- So there's no sun involved? No sun involved. My sitem is used in Texas because they've had not one, not two, but possibly three players only meetings in the last five days I saw that that's way too many. It's a lot of play. That's way too many players only we just call that practice

That's yeah, and my sleeper is daylight savings time set your clocks back this week Everyone it's gonna suck, but you lose that hour sleep daylight savings time make sure you set your clock Saturday night Seriously, though make sure you set your clock Saturday night very important I forgot last week I know I know I know you did cuz you were late I was late all week yeah literally all week you're one hour late I know it sucked it was nuts you show up exactly one hour reverse Coughlin time yeah okay let's get to our interview with John Gruden and then we'll finish up with FireFest the week before we get to coach Gruden he's brought to our interview with John Gruden and then we'll finish up with Firefest the week Before we get to coach Gruden, he's brought to you by our good friends over at Chevy there's a reason why we've never done the Mount Rushmore of pickup trucks and that is because

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grow up watching him on the sidelines and obviously Monday night football, the Raiders, and now you're a coworker. Does that now diminish your legacy, that you are sitting in the room with us? Are you kidding me? I really, it's like a dream for me. I mean, you talk about a new life. I don't know that much about anything

other than sitting in a dark room. But being a, you know, coming down here to Chicago, seeing this facility, hanging out with Portnoy, getting on this show with you guys, and being a part of this team is awesome. I'm excited about it. I know I got a long way to go and a lot to prove, but with your help, I know I can make progress.

You're number one draft pick. Yeah, it's also a genius move from your perspective as well because you, like, I think there's a group of fans, what was your years that you did Monday Night Football? 10. I think it was 2009. I did it for nine years. Yeah, so 18, 19.

So like, you know, it's been what, six, seven years. So people forget that you were part of the best booth in broadcasting. And now you get to basically get reintroduced to the internet age. People need more Gruden. We're going to give them more Gruden. I'm going to do my best.

I tell you though, this whole operation for the fans that haven't seen it, to walk in here and see it, it's really incredible. The facility, the kind of people that you've hired, the passionate sports fans. There is no clock that you guys punch. Everybody just kind of does their own thing. It's an amazing operation. I'm proud to be here. I like it.

We've got a good organization going on. Yeah, it's been very funny. PFT, you just walked in, but people have been going up to Gruden and he's gotten the introduction to everyone in their interesting, weird tics and everything because Jerry immediately said, are you wearing Creed? So he spotted Gruden's cologne.

Big T went up to him and was like, I have to ask you right now, how close were you taking the Tennessee job? Mincy has tried to hire him to the Saints. He's just getting like, you're just getting- Oh, wait till you meet Frank the Tank. Yeah, Frank the Tank. We gotta get you on a stream with Frank.

Yeah, and then we got a big game tonight. That's that's what I'm most excited about You know the commander's heading into Philly, so it'll be an awesome night. I'm fired up Yeah, so it's a big tee did ask me to ask you that on the record because he's a giant volunteers fan He only wears Tennessee Orange Only wears the power tee He wants to know how how close you were to actually signing that because there was a rumor, remember you had your picture taken in a Hooters. Yeah. I think in Knoxville, Tennessee and the internet went wild. They were like okay Gruden's in Hooters, he's gonna be our coach. I thought John

Gruden might just love Hooters that much that he's just casually stopping in for for an ice-cold beer. No I do love Hooters. I did love Hooters when Hooters was in their hay day, but my wife cheered at Tennessee. I love Tennessee. I was a graduate coach there, and I did talk to the athletic director, and I don't look up to anybody more

than I look up to Peyton Manning and Kenny Chesney. Those are two of my favorite Tennessee guys, and I was very interested in doing it, but at that time, I was having so much fun on Monday Night Football with Mike Tirico. I couldn't take in doing it. But at that time, I was having so much fun on Monday night football with Mike Toreyko. I couldn't take any other job. Yeah, you did have that stretch where it was like every year, it was like, well, Gruden's open.

That had to feel good. It was every single year, it felt like they'd be like, well, there's an opening, Gruden. Well, they fire so many coaches now, Big Cat. I mean, every year, you know, six or seven of your best friends get fired and yeah, but to be in the thought process is always exciting and hell Tennessee was one that is really close to my heart. I almost did consider pulling a trigger there.

Yeah, you're talking about how coaches they get they get fired all the time. We're in that season where we start to speculate about what openings are going to be ready to go next season. Do you think that the NFL moves on from coaches too quickly sometimes? I do. I remember as a young coach when I was coaching the Raiders in 1998, I went to the owners' meetings and every owner and every head coach was in there. I was 34 years old.

I look over there and there's Marty Schottenheimer. Over there's Mike Shanahan and Mike Holmgren. Then you see Joe Gibbs, Bill Cower. And it just seemed every team, Tom Coughlin of the Jaguars, Tony Dungey Tampa, every team had a coach that was there for a period of years, Dan Reeves with the Falcons. And now they change coaches every year or two and they change offense and defensive coordinators like they change shirts. And I think that has a lot to do with the lack of quarterback consistency and development over time.

Yeah. What about offensive coordinators? So if you're a defensive head coach and you're setting up your staff, you want to get the best offensive coordinator that you can, obviously, but then there's also the danger that if he performs too well at his job, he's going to be hired as a head coach next season, then you have to go and find somebody else to fill that guy's shoes. He's at a double-edged sword where it's like he's the best guy for my team right now, but I also have to have a roster of guys that I'm ready to elevate. That's a great point. Great point. That is a great point. That's why the model that I learned growing up was with the 49ers. Bill Walsh called the plays, was the head coach. Mike Colengrin, who I worked for, was the head coach, called the plays. So if you lose your coordinator,

you're able to call the plays yourself. But when you're a defensive coach, and as you said, if you hire a hot shot coordinator, he's probably gonna be gone. You better have somebody in your operation that has learned the system that can teach the system and keep your system alive. If that guy leaves. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, there's a weird question, but I'm going to ask a weird question. Did Mark Davis ever say like, Hey, I really like your haircut. No, I said, I like your hair. You should go Mark Davis. You know what? I get my $15. I get it dry and I let it fly and I move He's wearing a hat and sunglasses, you know, but now my hairstyle is

It's not really well thought through Devin mark Davis has he ever think about it? Like hey, he might give me a couple extra million dollars if I just start going yeah, he might yeah I don't know. It's just I never looked at it quite like that But I have been criticized for my hair several times Did I ask you if you ever went to a pf Chang's with him? I have you have tell us everything We these are good. We want to go to a pf change well in Oakland. There's a beautiful pf Chang's not in Oakland It's it's a fancy part of town. I can't remember what it was called, but there's not a normal pf Chang's It's like the killer pf Chang's It's like the PF Chang is on steroids. MD walks in, he sits up there. He's got the same seat and he, they know exactly what he wants. So he doesn't even order. They just bring

it. They pretty much know what he wants. He absolutely is dialed in at PF Chang's. I mean, it's unbelievable. It's really a hell of a place. I learned to love it myself. Yeah. Drive you there in the van. No, I think I met him there. Yeah. The van is another that's a bucket list item for us. Yeah.

When we found out he drove that van. But yeah, we the P.F. Chang's like we apparently goes there every day. You know, the Bucks play the Raiders December 8 in Tampa. Maybe you guys should come down. Maybe MD will be there. There is a nice P.F. Chang's in Tampa. Perhaps we guys should come down. Maybe MD will be there. There is a nice PF Chang's in Tampa perhaps. Yeah. We did get a verbal yes. We kind of accosted him at the Super Bowl when we saw him in the lobby in Vegas. We were like, hey, come on the show.

And he's like, okay. But I don't think it really stuck. I think we could do, maybe we do a double dip. Maybe we go to PF Chang's and Hooters. Oh. so I did a bad job last time we had you on the show because we talked about your fired football coaches association is that the correct name for it? FFCA? The synthetic football team that you've built in a Tampa strip mall. I didn't know that you guys were essentially located in the headquarters of Hooters. Well at one time we were now I'm not. Okay. I have my own standalone building. I've graduated to higher levels. Okay.

But when Hooters came around, my dad was coaching for the Bucks. I needed a summer job and Hooters just showed up. This is like 1986. And I got a job at the original Hooters in Clearwater, Florida. I was a wing shaker, oyster shucker, beer keg changer, best job I ever had. Then I moved on to Hillsboro Hooters, the number two Hooters. I was a backup college quarterback at Dayton. And I remember getting on the plane, going to training camp, crying.

I didn't want to leave Hooters, man. I just want to work at Hooters. My dad said, get your ass on a plane. I love Hooters. Yeah, oyster shucking, that's no joke. That's a tough job. They give you the glove. You can cut yourself up aoters. Yeah, always the shucking. That's no joke. That's a, that's a tough job. You can give, they give you the glove. You can cut yourself. I mean, it's hard labor. Yeah. But it probably makes it back in the day when Hooters was rolling, there wasn't a better place for me.

Yeah. Talking about the NFL this year, who in your mind is running the most innovative offensive stuff? Uh,, everyone knows Ben Johnson. He's talked about a lot, but who's maybe an under the radar guy? You're like, what he's doing is some stuff that people are going to start copying a couple years down the line, because that's really what the NFL ends up being is copycat league. Yeah, that's something I've been looking for. I have two servers in my office and I make cutups. I'm looking for new concepts to teach and use if I ever do coach or when players and coaches come in,

what's going on? What are people doing in the red zone? Third down, short yardage. I was interested in Grubbs, the guy that went to Seattle early in the year. They were shredding people and I still think they do some really cool things offensively in Seattle. I do like Ben Johnson because I recognize the offense. I like what Cliff Kingsbury has done with Washington. And when you have a guy like Daniels, you can call any play you want, but their usage of those backs, they use two at a time. McNichols, Eckler, Robinson, it doesn't matter. Rodriguez comes in and they do an excellent job

with the ball distribution. I like teams that use the tight end, Zach Hertz. They got a go-to receiver, McLaurin. They can run the ball, they can do a lot. So I can't wait for tonight's game because I wanna see Kingsbury, the offensive coordinator of Washington, against Vic Fangio, the D coordinator of Philly,

who's done a hell of a job. Yeah, Vic Fangio can coach defense. And their defense has gotten a lot better over the course of the year too. So I don't know, I've heard a lot of people say that it's getting more comfortable with the system, especially the quarterbacks and the safeties, understanding what Vic Fangio is trying to do. Can you explain to us what that means, how a team can finally understand the concepts of the system and feel comfortable with it?

You know what I think too is, well, Vic Fangio is a great teacher and he hired, I think, a very good defensive staff. And when you go watch teams practice, you can see the coaches that are better developing players and teaching their system than maybe others. Fangio has a lot of young players on this defense. They're emerging. I mean, Nolan Smith, nobody realizes he's starting. The kid, the linebacker, Nicoby Dean,

he's playing his butt off. Zach Bond is one of the best kept secrets in the league. He was an on the ball linebacker for the Saints. I don't ever remember him playing inside linebacker. A rookie corner, Mitchell, a rookie nickel guy, Cooper DeGene, a lot of young guys that are really kicking ass in this system. I think a lot of it has to do with the simplicity of it.

It's not over the, not a ton of blitzes and 96 different coverages. But I also think he teaches effort. He teaches guys how to tackle, take them proper angles. They're very detailed. They're very disciplined and there are no exceptions. Fangio is a hell of a coach and he's hired really good coaches to help him. Yeah. And from the offensive coordinator side, we talked a little bit about Kingsbury, but I want to talk about Ben Johnson for a minute. So Ben Johnson, he was like the top number one hottest name head coach last off season, decided to go back to Detroit. He's probably

going to get even more money on the open market if he chooses take a head coaching job this year but what is it that Ben Johnson does that's so innovative? You know he does a lot pre-snap what I love about Detroit is they win in the pre-snap meaning they'll change the tight end they'll change the receiver they'll motion two or three times before the ball is snapped. And they'll let Jared Goff pick a play. They're using the pre-snap to recognize your defense. I call it RCE. You recognize the defense and when you know what defense they're in, now you communicate a play to beat that defense.

And that's what leads to great levels of execution. I call it RCE. Now they're blessed. They have an excellent offensive line. They got a one-two punch in the backfield that's unbelievable. Those two cats are great. They got a great slot receiver who's a total badass the way he plays and blocks. I mean you watch this guy play, he's like a Tommy Hearns, he's like a Hagler type guy. You'll get in the ring and kick your ass now. And with Jameson Williams, they got the guy that can turbo it over the top.

And Goff, other than last week, hasn't been good. He's been great. Yeah, he has. He's been like perfect. So the Jets, I got a question about the Jets. There was a report this week that Jeff Ulbrich, the interim head coach, went back to the fundamentals of tackling this week. So they put the pads back on. week that Jeff Ulbrich, the interim head coach, went back to the fundamentals of tackling this week. So they put the pads back on. He even gave a demonstration of

tackling to start the practice. That's, I mean, we already know the Jets are in disarray, but what does that say when you have to do a fundamental of tackling? Did you ever do that as a coach, like halfway through the season? Like, hey, we got to learn how to tackle again Well, we try to emphasize tackling and when you have a poor tackling game or a poor tackling month You want to emphasize tackling I'm surprised he came out and said that yeah Because your players, you know, they got a lot of pride in tackling But the Jets do have problems and I had always said that their defense wasn't part of the problem

But I know Ulbrich is in charge of the defense He expects a lot from the defense and they didn't give it to him last week in Arizona so I can understand his frustration Yeah, yeah, it's been interesting up there feels like they they didn't really have much of a plan going into the season or at least A plan for how to fix things. So have you ever been on a team that started out slow and You know the media saying coaches lost the locker room, they're gonna move on, maybe in-season firing for Coach Gruden. And have you ever turned a team like that around? And if you have, how did you take things from the brink of collapse to making everybody buy back in?

Well, I was a coach 15 years, so I've been a part of everything. My hands are dirty. We've gone from part of everything. My hands are dirty. We've gone from first to worst, and there's a short way from the penthouse to the outhouse. But in this league right now, with the ability to change your team and free agency and the draft and your coaching staff, you can flip it in a year. So we've gone from last to first in the NFC South.

You gotta have mental toughness. And I think you have to have a real bond in which how you handle the media and what you're saying in public. There's just too much out there right now. When the fire starts in your kitchen, if you start releasing all these statements, it just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And if he comes in inferno, you can't stop. Yeah. But there's negativity

in Chicago. Yeah, that's what's happening. It's just a horrible thing. Yeah. So I was always one of those guys that I was always trying to stir the emotions. Try to I try to piss you off one day, make you laugh, make you cry, fire you up. I just think you got to keep everybody together. And it's us against the world. I think the great teams, the teams that come out of it are the teams that love the misery. And we used to talk about that. Don't you love that we're 0 and 2, we're all beat up, we're tired, we're a 10 point underdog, we got to go on the road, Our dog just shit in our yard.

Certain teams love the opportunity to showcase how they can come out of it and certain teams don't. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you said it, the cracks after the commander's Hail Mary, like it just, it was a report from five different guys doing media and it all looked bad and it was finger pointing. And so if you were to coach the Bears, I want you to stay here at Barstool,

but if you want to coach the Bears, we could maybe get that worked out as well. If you were to coach the Bears, what would be the first thing you do to try to put Caleb Williams back on path? Because it feels like we're off the path right now. It feels like we're off the road and it's starting to kind of careen to a bad spot.

What would be the first thing that you would tell him, tell your team, tell your offense, what would, what would be the first like, Hey, this is the fundamentals we've got to do. Well, it's getting late to do that. Yeah. We're at the 10 week point of the, I'm saying more for next year. The big thing you do is you have a private meeting with the guys you deem as your leaders, the defensive leadership, the offensive leadership, the eight or nine Chicago Bears, that you're really saying this is the heart and soul

of our football team. And we're gonna get behind this quarterback, and we gotta spread that news downstairs and publicly. But we gotta make this guy a great player. He is gonna be a hell of a player unless we screw it up. Let's be honest with you. You've had a lot of guys come through here, but this guy's a unique talent.

And right now he needs support, man. And he needs it the most from his coach and the blue chip leaders that we have on the team. Now I don't know what kind of leadership they have on this bare football team. Briskers hurt. They got a bunch of guys from different teams, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Everybody's the number one receiver.

Swift is a new player. I think they're all searching for an identity, but we better figure it out. This is our guy right here. Yeah. And we got to get him to hand the ball off to Swift, play good defense, win a couple ugly games. The weather's getting shitty. Yeah.

But you got to get excited about Caleb Williams and keep putting your arm around this guy and challenging him and helping them get through it. What do you see on the tape? It's bad. There's too much of him. You know, there's 40 times he's carried the ball. Yeah. 40 times he's been sacked.

I just encourage him, you know, to get rid of the ball. Sometimes the best play you can make is throwing the ball away because that's the only good play you could make. Yeah. I think he's waiting for receivers to get open and I think it's hurting them. Yeah. A lot of the sacks are on the quarterback holding the ball. Yeah.

You can't blame the offensive line for all these. No, I agree. I agree. It feels like a mental lock that's going on right now where it's like it's a combination of guys not getting open, but even when they are open, he's not letting it rip. I think they got to get them three for three to start the game. A quick pass. I'm not talking about quick screens either. Yeah. I think there are different routes we can run other than if I see one more quick screen, you hate screens. Well, I can't take them. I hate them

too. I hate it. I hate why I like running back screens. I hate wide receiver. So you throw a bubble screen or a quick screen. I mean, how many times you see Jerry Rice run a bubble screen? Real routes. Yeah. You never saw Willie Gault run a bubble screen. You got these three Corvettes. I mean, Keenan Allen was a number one guy for the Chargers. DJ Moore is paid to be a number one guy.

You draft a guy in the top 10 because you obviously think he's a number one guy. Yeah. Now let him run some routes and tell the quarterback to throw him the ball or get rid of the ball, but quit taking sex. I've got no, absolutely no data to back this up, but I feel like 99% of the time they run a quick screen to wide receiver, tackled for a loss of a yard. Yeah. Like I feel like defensive backs have become too good at defending that screen pass or maybe now it doesn't have that same element of surprise that it used to. Yeah, there's like a couple guys that I would feel comfortable in the entire NFL being like, yeah, that's like, uh, uh, Cluil Shakir.

Yeah. He can run a quick screen. Rashid Shahid. Rashid Shahid. He can run a quick screen. There's a lot. It just, it feels like sometimes offensive coordinators are like, oh, we haven't run a wide receiver screen in a while.

Let's just do it to do it. Terry Hill. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah. Why, why? Like they, they, they just always get guys are just, and you have to also, you can't run them if your wide receivers aren't committed to blocking. That's the thing that drives me nuts

is when you run a quick screen and the wide receiver's not blocking. And then you run a fake quick screen and you act like you're blocking and you take off. Yeah. The playbook has become, what you see on Friday night football in high school, you start to see on Saturday.

Everybody's clapping their hands, running RPOs, and now you're starting to see that on Sunday. That's why it's a pleasure to watch the Lions. It's a pleasure to watch the Chiefs. Some of these offenses that are really doing it the old fashioned National Football League way, I think those are the teams you're going to be talking about here in December. Yeah. And talking about the Chiefs, they just keep winning. They won't stop winning no matter what position they're in. They're never dead. They figure out ways to win games, which I

think is a mark of one, just a really good football team, but mostly really, really, really good coaching that makes you pay attention to all those details. And I feel like with Hopkins, who is actually, I thought that he was like 35 years old. I looked up, he's 32, I think. Yeah. So he's still got some years and with Hopkins, I feel like the Chiefs are in as good a position to win the Super Bowl as they've ever been right now, given what they have. What do you see that the Chiefs are doing?

Like how have they evolved on offense in the post Tyreek Hill era? You know, I did get to go there for about a week in training camp. Andy Reed invited me up there and you're right, man. They got a great coaching staff. I mean, Dave Tobe, the special teams coach, Spagnolo, they get all the ink because they're the coordinators. I'm talking about the position coaches. Their drills, their team periods, their competitiveness on the practice field, their organization's

phenomenal. They're winning games in their preparation. Fans don't see them on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They have a contingency plan. If they lose this player, we're gonna play like this. If we lose this player, we'll play like this. If the left tackle isn't quite ready, we'll help them, we'll do this. But they do have a well-orchestrated contingency plan.

I think they're only getting stronger. Pacheco's coming back on the practice field. Juju Smith Schuster's back. The last time he played he had over 100 yards against the Saints. And they're gonna get a Menahew, a very good pass rusher back. So I think they're gonna get stronger and stronger,

but what they do is they just kill you with their preparation, their contingency planning for if it doesn't go the way they want and their mental toughness. They got a great coach. They got a great quarterback and a great kicker and their defense is on fire. Yeah, they are. I mean, it doesn't matter how you win. Doesn't matter how many you win by, you just keep winning. And my homes feels like that guy where every chief's game kind of goes the same, where it's like, you know, their offense looks a little clunky

and then there's a third and eight and he'll find a way to get it. Yeah, the thing that's really startling is how quick he's throwing the ball. You don't see him throw the ball over 20 yards in a game sometimes. And here's Pat Mahomes, I had him on Gruden's QB camp. He could throw better left-handed than I can right-handed.

I mean, this guy's a magician. I mean, he can really wing it. But you don't see seam patterns, go balls, deep breaking routes. Everything has been quick but they are converting 52% on third down which is way better than everybody else statistically and I just think they're about to explode. We'll get back to coach in a second. He's brought to you by Aura Frames. The best gifts feel like they were picked out just for you.

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Maybe that's part of what happens with Barstool here. Was there ever a guy who you walked away from, you're sitting doing film and you're like, I don't think that guy's got it. And then he went in and ended up being a great pro. You know, I did 63 shows. So we had a lot of quarterbacks come down the pikes, you know. No, not really. There were a few guys that came in and said, damn, I like that guy. Who were those?

Well, I mean, I loved Russell Wilson when he came in out of NC State. We made fun of the size. Well, Wisconsin. He came out of Wisconsin. Well, yeah, Wisconsin. Yeah, yeah. I was smitten with him.

Matter of fact, I got to talk to Pete Carroll during the draft process. And they had just signed to virus Jackson. They had Flynn. Yeah. And he asked me about Russell Wilson I said if you take this kid and I said if you bring him into your team and give him a chance he'll beat both those guys out and that's just what he did the other guy I love was Kirk Cousins yeah and I still stay in touch with Kirk Cousins yeah and they drafted RG 3 in the

first round I remember telling Bruce Allen I I said, this guy's the son of a bitch now. Yeah, be careful. And look where he is. Yeah, he's had a great career. Great career. Fantastic career. He got paid a lot of money, too. He really has.

And when I watch him play, there's not many guys that stand in there and take shots and deliver strikes like cousins. I mean, I love that about him, always have. I remember in Groon's QB camp, was it Jimmy Claussen you got pissed off at? Yeah, probably. Yeah.

I think you said there was a route that his receiver ran that was incorrect, and he told you that, and you're like, you can't fucking tell me that. It's your fault, take accountability. So as a coach, sometimes receivers screw up, right? They mess up, everybody messes up. And an interception might not necessarily be on a quarterback but you always want to see your quarterback say hey that's my fault I didn't do a good enough job

communicating what you should have done is that fair? It is fair I think the quarterback has to be bulletproof at least the ones that are great that I've been around now in privacy the coach and a quarterback, they address those issues, but you know, you gotta coach body language, I think. I gotta coach Dan on his body language. I mean, you're a big cat. Well, I'm down right now. He's getting mad at me, he's getting mad at me

because I'm very doom and gloom. You don't wanna see your quarterback, you know, pointing fingers and blaming guys. I don't think it's healthy. So you gotta control your emotions. You gotta be an assassin, man. You gotta really have a very thick mental toughness about you, and some do and some don't.

Yeah, yeah, so going back to your time in Green Bay when you were coaching Brett Favre, one of the best arms of all time, just incredible, took a lot of chances. Did you, how was that coaching him when he would go off script and take some of these chances? Throw these interceptions and you're like what the fuck are you doing Brett? But you knew that you know, ultimately the good was going to outweigh the bad with him

I was coaching receivers. I didn't coach farf. Okay, I can I can I was the signal guy back then We didn't have the walkie talkie. I would signal to jet dino We didn't have the walkie-talkie. I would signal to jet Dino Why shallow cross and he had to memorize the formations he struggled with that? But I can still remember Mike Holmgren the head coach when farve was scrambling. He'd be saying no no Yes, great job Brett. He'd be saying no no what the hell hit to your point the first couple years a lot of growing pains, but Farf he had a triple X pouch man. Yeah, this guy had he had big balls, man Yeah, he was afraid of no body

He was as tough as hell and he had a rocket and he tried to prove it in every drill every period He tried to wow you yeah, and he broke a lot of our receivers' hands, face masks. He had a rocket. Are you, we had this debate, not debate, but I pointed out that I like my quarterbacks to throw a couple of interceptions. I want, I don't like when a quarterback gets late in the season, it's like,

oh, they have no interceptions. That means they're not taking the risk. Is that a crazy thought to have? Are there some interceptions that you're like, you know what, we can live with that because you're trying to make the big play and if you keep trying To make the big play it will happen. I Love this conversation. Yeah, we're have hope you're having fun You know what when you're coaching aggressiveness with your offense You got a guy like farve and you got sterling Sharp out there running routes. There's an understanding and trust.

Hey, I'm the receiver coach. If you throw the ball, if he throws a ball to us and it's tight, he's giving you a chance. So there's only three things that are going to happen, Big Cat. You're going to be a savage and you're going to go catch the damn ball. That's why we're paying you too. Secondly, you're going to make damn sure he doesn't get it. You're going to play defensive back and make sure it's incomplete. Or third, you're going to be like an Academy Award winner.

You're going to get me that pass interference penalty. But I think you've got to have a real careful understanding. And I think that's what the Bears' problem is a little bit. Do you trust Keenan Allen? Do you not trust Keenan Allen? Throw him the ball and it's tight. He's going to catch it. is do you trust that Keenan Allen, do you not trust Keenan Allen? Right. Throw him the ball and it's tight. Yeah. He's going to catch it.

He's going to make sure it's not intercepted and he's going to get a couple fouls. Yeah. That's Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson going into that Steelers offense. You've seen it with George Pickens. He's going to give his guys a chance and like, yeah, there might be some interceptions, but now his guys are more locked in and they know they can go get those jump balls, those moon balls, and their offenses look totally different.

And when you watch Kansas City early in the season, they threw a bomb to Worthy, their fast receiver from Texas. And I know you remember the play. Cam Taylor Britt of the Bengals makes a one-handed interception and everybody's like, oh, what a great interception. You know what? You know what they were saying in Kansas City? They were pissed at Worthy because what didn't he do?

Go attack the ball. You don't let anybody intercept it. And I think that's one of the reasons Kansas City's a little bit reluctant to give him a ton of 50-50 opportunities. They used to do that with Deshaun Jackson. But D Jack, he would go up there and he would tip it away from somebody.

And I just think these are little behind the scene things that young quarterbacks, they got to have confidence in their receivers. Yeah, they will make you right one way or another. Yeah. What about what's going on in Los Angeles with the Chargers? Because we love coach Arbaugh is one of our favorite people. That man, his blood type is football. That's all he thinks about. He loves Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert's been looking pretty good and the defense is playing at just an otherworldly clip right now. What has Harbaugh done to that team to remake them and to reimagine the Chargers over the span of one year? Well, he's come in there and given them confidence. I think he's walked in there and

they've changed the whole dynamic of how they practice. They never ran the ball in Chargerland. I mean, I don't know what the rushing stats were last year, but you could go two or three games and not see 10 or 15 carries. This is now a smash mouth running team. Forget about Herbert for a second. You don't know who their receivers are. I mean, their leading receiver is McConkey,

a slot receiver. They really aren't a pass first team and they're not a pass second team. They are running the ball, possessing the ball, and trusting their defense. He just has brought a lot of confidence and physicality to their team. And defensively, 13.1 points per game.

Big Cat and I were talking earlier though, they have not beaten many quality quarterbacks. This will be a good test form. Yeah. He went down the list of quarterbacks and it was not, it was a Gardner Minshew. It was Justin Fields. It wasn't, it wasn't lighting the world on fire. Did you ever do a post-game handshake with Coach Harbaugh? I don't think so. I think I was in the booth when he was in the NFL. I just competed against his brother, But, uh, you love coaches that compete. I think that permeates into the locker room. If your coach is fiery and he's competitive

and banging on your shoulder pads and taking snaps and pregame warmup, he loves football. He loves to compete. He's a bad ass. And I think the chargers in some way are emulating their coach. Yeah. Yeah, it's culture. Yeah, it sure is. You need that culture. You have guys who want to go take someone's head off. I agree. Yeah.

That's what the Chargers feel like. They're just a tough football team. But you do also still believe in the Bengals and maybe making a run here. I just believe in a quarterback, big cat. I mean, watching that game last week, that was the best single game played this year by a quarterback in my opinion. And I think second best might have been his other

game against the red. Yeah. Yeah. Might've been. He's running around more than you think. He's not just your typical pocket passer. He's getting out of trouble. He's running for first downs and he can see the whole field. He's got great peripheral vision and he has no wasted motion when he throws the ball. I really am impressed with him. Yeah. Yeah. So you think that the Bengals might be, we may have buried the Bengals prematurely. I think the Bengals, if their defense gets going a little bit and with the return of

Higgins, I think they can be a problem. I do know this though. They missed Joe Mixon. They missed Joe Mixon's receiving skills. I think in some of these check downs, I'm used to seeing Mixon come out of the trash. Yeah. Yeah. Another team you mentioned that I think is going a little under the radar, but they have been playing great football is the Arizona Cardinals. What are they doing? Because I, you know, I didn't, I thought they were going to be an okay team. I didn't think

they were going to be sitting at the top of the NFC West in November But they're they're a legit team and it feels like they have everything clicking. I know I hate their uniforms Yeah, you know, there's something about I see the red on red and I just yeah But they get Harrison the receiver from Ohio State Connors a good back. I can't even tell you who their other running back is, but he is a beast. McBride is a hell of a tight end. And Kyler Murray's playing great. You talk about quick. And their defense, they have my favorite player, Buda Baker. Jonathan Gannon has done a nice job with the defense. He stayed in his wheelhouse and offensively they're a problem because they're balanced. And they've already beaten the San Francisco 49ers in San Francisco.

They're dangerous. Yeah, I love watching James Connor run with the football too. He's so upright, very crazy, but he gets shit done. Yeah, I can't even tell you who the backup running back is. I can just tell you this on the flight down here, I said, I'd better find out more about this guy because he's, he's, he's a load also. How I always assume it's just, uh, what's his name? Yeah, that's right. Oh, no. J. Oh, you got Trey Benson as well. Yeah. It's not Trey Benson. It's demarcato. Yeah. Demarcata or DJ Dallas. Oh, it's demarcata. Yeah. How much, uh, how many hours of tape do you watch a week? Probably too much early in the week. You know, when you get the tape, you

know, they got the FedEx guy knocks on the door. It's like Tuesday morning or Monday night. You're like, Hey, there's a tape. And I'm my assistant, Jeff Leonardo. Wait, they send the tape. You don't just have it on your computer. Well, I, you know, I don't, I don't want to get into all that. I, I pay a lot of money to get my tape. OK, got it, got it, got it. Actually, you know what? I know. Now I understand.

Yes, you got the tape. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when I do get the tapes, I get so excited. I actually have a notepad. And I'll write down, I'll go over the stats. Who had double digit tackles? Who had interceptions? Who got the sacks?

Who had the explosive plays, who did this, who did that? And I'll start making reels to see how they did it. And it's an obsession. And then when I was doing my little YouTube channel, Gruden Loves Football, I always picked three or four games a week, and I really tried to dig in on those two teams

and learn all their players and some of the key matchups. I just love it, man. I love it. I love it. I can tell you. I love that you get tape FedEx to your place of business on Tuesday mornings. Does your wife ever like,

hey, can you like stop watching so much tape? Let's go for a walk. My wife, when I got fired by Tampa, I had an office at my house and I had my little projector. And back then we had the beta tapes. And I'd have coaches coming in the office at my house and I had my little projector and back then we had the beta tapes and I'd have coaches coming in the office at 6 a.m. My wife would come downstairs in her pajamas. She didn't go for this. You got to get out of here. Get all your stuff. So I bought a building. I rented a building. Eventually I bought a building and when you

guys come down, you guys will freaking like it. I'm pumped to see that. So when you're watching tape, I know you get excited about guys. I've seen you get really excited watching football. Do you still get mad? Do you get mad watching a football team if they're not if there's guys on the team? So what's the last thing that made you mad? Well, to be honest with you, the Bears made me mad. Yeah, yeah, you know, I just have high expectations for the kind of roster they have, skill-wise.

And I'm not just talking about the coaching or the coordinator or the play calling. The players are not making me happy. I saw a guy run an out route and sit down while the play is going on. Yeah, that was bad. That kind of rubbed me the wrong way. That was bad, very bad. The Jets have made me upset. You know, I put a lot of stock in this quarterback, Rogers.

I think he's one of the best I've ever seen play. He had an injury last year, he's coming back. Their protection hasn't been good. Their running game hadn't been good. Their body language is horrific. I get upset. We do this with every guest that we have, first time we have them in the studio.

It's questions from a third grader So this is from a third grade class in Dripping Springs, Texas, and this is Amy. This is Amy. She's in third grade She wants to know coach Gruden. What's your favorite color? Amy I love purple purple purple the color of royalty. Yeah good answer Coach Gruden, what did you want to be when you grew up? I wanted to be a coach. My dad was a coach, so I've been around coaching my whole life and I knew I wasn't gonna be

a good enough player. So I said, man, maybe one day I can be a coach. I like that. And then her third question, actually it's not really a question, Amy says, Coach Gruden, I agree, Roger Goodell is an anti football pussy. So Amy knows ball. Amy tell me where I can get a new haircut. Good job Amy. Yeah Amy's a listen she she's a big fan so yeah Amy I love you.

Yeah all right so give me the list of teams right now that can win the Super Bowl. We have our list. I want to see how it matches up. How many teams? I think we have what? Five, six. Let's see. Let's run through it. We have the Eagles. We had the Lions in the NFC. We had the Bills, the Chiefs, the Ravens, and if maybe the Steelers play this weekend, maybe the Steelers get, get put into that. Well, you can't you can't make that list. I was at the Bucs 49er game last week and with McCaffrey back and Joann Jennings back, I was telling Big Cat they're going to be a hard offense to stop because Mason, the backup running back. Yeah.

Hell, he's leading the league and rushing down there. Yeah. So you got and Purdy is a lot better quarterback when you see him live. This guy's strong. He's loose. He's gutty, man. Gritty. Love them. And I think their defense, although they're missing some key guys, I don't know if their safety who fungus coming back or not. But

if he comes back, I love the 49ers. 49ers added to the list. Did we miss any other? He might have the best fullback. We talked about Arizona. Yeah, Arizona. You know, somebody's gonna come out of the West. Yeah. Somebody's going to come out of the West and someone's going to win that division and get a home playoff game. Yep. Who's it going to be? Yeah. Who's it going to be? It's going to be Arizona in my opinion, but I really think it's going to be the 49ers. Yeah. Okay. All right. And, uh, you think the bills, what do the bills have to do to get over

that home? I think the bills need Milano back. I have to do to get over that hump? I think the Bills need Milano back. I think they need to get healthy on defense. The big thing with the Bills is Von Miller. Are you really Von Miller? If Von Miller and Rousseau and the fourth quarter pass rush, Ed Oliver, if they can get that fourth quarter pass rush humming, that's what bothered me against the Dolphins two weeks ago, is I thought that pass rush would just eat up to a and it didn't happen I think they got to get that

pass rush revved up and they could be they could seriously be a problem if they do yeah okay I have one last question this has been great coach we're so excited that you're here with us rollback question RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. Last question we know it's football number one what other sports are you watching because I heard a rumor that you watch all the sports. Yeah I love sports. I love the Cincinnati Reds when I was growing up so I love baseball matter of fact I'm going to Arizona to see Tony LaRusso.

We're having a Wounded Warrior Service Dog event. Love baseball. And I do love basketball. I was Bobby Knight's ball boy. I just don't like the three-point shot. I think it's too much. Okay, I like that. Way too much three points.

And I like golf. Oh. I do like golf. I got the caddy for John Daly one time. Yeah, that's incredible. So tell that story real quick, because I remember golf. Oh. I do like golf. I got the caddy for John Daly one time. Yeah. That's incredible. So tell that story real quick,

because I remember when it happened, there was a rain delay, right? Yeah. And so you're hanging out, John Daly goes over the Hooters tent. I was up at the Hooter Owl's Nest, they call it. I was just having some beers. I was coaching Tampa, relaxing.

Lightning bolt. They suspend play. So Daly comes up with this caddy, and this rain delay goes on and on and on. It gets cold and it's wet. It appears like the tournament's over. Mm-hmm. So the caddy had a couple cocktails, I guess. He was off. I had a Daley's bib on. I was wearing his bib. We were meeting fans, taking pictures, and the tournament director came back and he says,

Mr. Daley, you got 15 minutes to get in position. We're going to play four or five more holes before it gets dark. So we go up and hit balls, and Daley looks at me and he says, well, you're wearing the bib, let's go. So I carried his bag, and I had been in this hooter owl nest drinking a few beers. I had to pee like a rhinoceros. I got this bag, and there's like 14 Diet Cokes in there, an umbrella thing, weighed 100 pounds. And we're on like the 16th hole,

I only did it for three holes. I'm like the 16th hole, did Caddy's pee on the course? I don't know, are there bathrooms out here? So I had to go pee and then we come up on the 17th hole where the Owls Nest was, that's one of the holes we played. And all my friends had stayed around. Everybody was gone. There was no fans left and the fans started going, Caddy, Caddy.

I said I'm gonna get ripped for this and sure enough on the golf channel, they destroyed me for not having any etiquette and not having any. Well how'd you do in the club selection? How did John Daly shoot in those last holes? I can't remember. I was nervous, but I did not get near the green I just stayed over there by the bag. I didn't try to go up there and read putz or anything like that That was a great experience. I love daily. That's awesome the owls nest. Yeah, I gotta spend some time in the house Yes, all right. Well coach We're excited for everything we got coming up with you in barstool people People are going to listen to this on Friday, but the stream tonight is. I don't think you're ready, just so you know, and this could look stupid in retrospect,

I don't think you're ready. PFT is a diehard Commander's fan, but he's a respectable football watcher. The mutant we have in that booth, Max. Yeah, I've heard about Max. He is going to shock you with some of the stuff and you're probably going to see his ass crack. He has a problem with his ass. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen a lot of that in Philadelphia. Yeah. So you're going to, so, but like he's, he might cry. He might scream. He's Italian. He's fiery. He might

spit on you accidentally on you. So just, yeah, you might have to wear like a poncho. Max, control yourself Max. Don't peak too early man. We got plenty of time before kickoff. I'll be good before kickoff, but once the whistle starts, I got no problem. Yeah, there's no guarantee. The ass crack is confirmed 100%. Yeah. You'll see my ass crack. He said he's good for now, but once the whistle blows, he's ready to go. got score prediction even though this is coming out tomorrow So you might look stupid with your prediction, but what do you have? I'm going with the Philadelphia Eagles 27-20 I love it. I love it. Everyone everyone clean sweep. Everyone is predicted. No Hank Hank doesn't count Hank has a doesn't count

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It's just actively going on in my head. So I'll share it on this podcast with you guys in the world. I Feel like it's I know the answer that it's a sign that I'm going through somewhat of a midlife crisis. Yeah, I have been spending a lot of time thinking about because I bought my car that I have now. It's in perfectly fine condition. I have been spending a lot of time thinking about selling it the Audi and then leasing a really nice car. Yeah, like really nice. Yeah. And I also, again, like this is I'm 31 years old. I probably should have figured out

at this point in my life. I've never been really good with, I have good credit, but I've never had a credit card that gets really good points and rewards and like miles and stuff, which I want. That's something I want to do. So it's like, why not open a line of credit with good points, pay the lease off with that and have a nice car? So the midlife crisis you think this car will fix it

That's kind of that's that's where I've been like why do I want to do this fuck? I think you're having a midlife crisis fuck But like I do think you're having a midlife crisis. I do kind of like what kind of you are So thinking my fit here's that's it won't why I asked question like it would be sick If you think it will fix it you should do it if you think it will just be like shit I got the car and I still can't find happiness in my heart. Then we got other issues. You just got this car. I I Preface this by saying I understand the situation. I guess Elton memes No, it's I'm probably I sell it to someone else that works here though. You know what Hank? I think you should do it Yeah, why not is it gonna make you happy? Yeah, okay? Well, I will take even like 1% less grumpy Hank

Is it but I want you to be happy. I admit grumpy lately. I watch I Have you been grumpy lately, I don't think so The only time I should have said I think so Yeah, the only time Hank is truly happy Not counting on golf course is when he is pissing somebody else off False but that's fine. That's right. That's I don't even that grumpy recently I do think you're going through a midlife crisis the problem with the car purchase which I'm fully supportive of because I want you to Be happy is that if you?

buy it and then you're still going to the midlife crisis. What's next? Right Whereas if you just don't buy it you could always be like, oh, well, maybe the car would have fixed it Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer. I probably am NOT gonna do anything about it I don't probably that's why I said I didn't even need to share it, but it is It's the only fire fest that's stewing in my brain of like why do I even why am I even think what if there's no? It's there's no reason for me to even be going down this road, but I've spent I'm researching. I'm going to

Test drive some stuff this week. Oh hell yeah test driving is so much fun. What are you looking at? You're done that if you test drive you're gonna you're gonna it's done. What are you gonna look at? Hey? Well, I don't spoil also Elise does not make financial Beamer shoe. I heard I heard a different different brand From who I heard a lot. Oh, I was saying a lot talking people saying Steve will do It's gonna give you a Lambo. I heard Hanks do the Porsche Cybertruck said Porsche Porsche Porsche, uh Hank I

Don't think this is gonna solve anything but I'm supportive of course not gonna solve anything but it could be fun like cuz I drive A nice car, but it doesn't I don't even think about it You know, I mean like it doesn't it's not like I'm happy every time I have a nice car not a sick. Okay All right. Oh wow. Oh wow. Wait a minute. I gotta get a new lease. Yeah.

Damn. Why? What makes a... Damn, all right, all right. Fine, now I'm gonna get a better car. We're gonna have a car off. Hank, what if you took all this energy that you've got going into looking at new cars

and you put that into fixing a van? I've also been, I mean that's in the works. We're looking good with that. Are we? into looking at new cars and you put that into fixing up I've also been that's all me that's in the works we're Looking good with that Are we I've also I've also just like I did I didn't have nuking all my clothes I got rid of like 75% of my clothes. I'm completely redesigning like my office room and just getting rid of a bunch of shit So it's it's it's a overall Situation that's happening where I'm just like, get rid of everything,

get new stuff, feel better. I don't know. Okay. So what else would go in this midlife crisis? Tattoos? You're thinking about getting more tattoos? No. No.

Different apartment? No. I'm so confused about this car. What kind of Beamer is this? If it's that much better than Big Cat's car? I don't think you understand how cars work. It's sicker. It's just if you put them next to each other it's like yeah that's a that's a nice car that's a sick car. What if you got like a Subaru? What the fuck? What kind of car is it? Well I also I mean I do have... I'm shopping around. I do have three car seats in my car so that that lowers the sickness factor of it. What if you got it like a Subaru WRX? Just like a fast fucking car No, that'd be bad racing car get a Lambo. I

Think you go Porsche Cayenne Alright, well, I'll say I'm probably gonna do nothing Like I said, this is probably like I sometimes Am I why did I say it on a podcast that so many people listen to when I'm probably gonna do nothing No, you're gonna do it your test driving cars. You gotta are you going to multiple dealerships? No Oh, cuz I was gonna say the best part about getting a new car and test driving cars as you go Like it's my leasing thought correct. That's probably where people make your fucking It's kind of a waste of money, but you get you get sick cars

Yeah, but it doesn't wait wait wait. What do you mean? You get credit you build up your credit, but it's stupid Wait, are you talking about like credit card points? Are you talking like building your credit score both both have making payments you know that if you finance a car you also? I paid for my car in cash God you could also buy a car and finance it and that would also. But what if this is a midlife crisis and in like a year I want a different car? That's what I was gonna say.

I lease a car, I know it's stupid financially, but I like to be like, I can have a new option in two and a half years. Yeah, do that. Hank, if you buy a car, can you have me do the negotiation? I'm not gonna buy a car. Well, what I was saying is, Hank, you need to go to a couple dealerships. You need to go to a place where you know you're me do the negotiation? I'm not gonna buy what I was saying is Hank You need to go to a couple dealerships

You need to go to a place where you know You're probably not gonna buy it just so you can negotiate because it's so awesome negotiating at a car dealership Knowing that you're not probably not gonna buy that car unless they just go crazy. Love. Yeah, I love I love negotiate Yeah, it is my favorite thing in the world. Just walk out. He just fuck with him We'll see I needed you. Yeah, listen. I Yeah I will provide that service as a former former car salesman It's my favorite thing in the world to go in there and then just just ask him for all the coax they have yeah

I mean the actual car get me another so I don't I would at whatever I Yeah, I got me in the actual car. Give me another soda. I don't I would at whatever I've only bought a new car like me twice But whenever I've done it I've had like my options like it's like one through five and the fifth one I'll go and I'd like if they offer me this deal. I'll do it and it's a crazy deal and it's the best Yeah When I got my car the guy kept out He kept telling me the warranty and he kept and I kept like, no, I'm just gonna get the lowest one. And they just kept asking me why.

He was like, why aren't you getting the higher one? And I had no good answer, so eventually I was like, nah, fuck it, give me the higher one. Yeah, that's how they get you, the financing. He asked me five times, why don't you want this warranty? And I had no answer. You gotta secure your own financing, have that ready to go when you walk in cuz I'll get into that either

They'll fuck you over then they take you in that second great place on the actual and then the guy keeps walking back and forth To his manager. Let me see if I can do that. Let me see if I can do that. It's a great process Yeah, it's a lot of fun. All right, pf2 your five us my god. Good luck Thank you My first of the week is that they tuned nothing. Mike Tyson put me into an existential crisis. What's going on on this podcast? Have you guys seen the interview with Mike Tyson and the little girl? No.

Can we pull it up and we can watch it here? So ahead of the fight, Mike Tyson's doing press, they had a child reporter interview Mike Tyson and he gave her answers that are definitely not meant for for like a child But he also made me think a lot about Like what his life okay in a very dark way, okay? Career what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done? I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I think that's another word for ego Legacy doesn't mean nothing.

That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that word and everyone grabbed onto words and that was used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm going to die and it's going to be over. Who cares about legacy after that? We're the big ego, so I'm going to die. I want people to think that I'm this. I'm great.

No, we're nothing. We're just dead with dust This is nothing Our legacy is nothing Well, thank you so much for sharing that Not heard before someone say that answer can you really imagine somebody say I want my legacy to be this way when I get dead Why do you want to think I really want to think about you? How was that that thing I want you to think about me when I'm gone who the fuck cares about me when I'm gone My kids maybe a grandkids

Incredible that's such a good clip It actually does make me think that Mike Tyson might be able to do it like he is he's in a dark No fucks given place right now. He's just talking to a kid about death. Yeah, she's like well cool I've never heard I've never heard that perspective before I mean credit to the interviewer She did a great job rolling with it. Shout out. I am jazzy's world TV on tik-tok love Yeah, but that tells me Mike Tyson is he is locked in right now yeah he's all the way back okay my fire fest is there's a I think there's a word for it karma everyone in my house has been waking up at 545 in the morning mm-hmm since something happened two weeks ago what happened two weeks ago. What happened two weeks ago? We changed the clocks. Oh yeah. Stella, all three

of my kids, every fucking morning I've been getting up so goddamn early. So I deserve that. Why don't you get blackout curtains? I do. I have. Dude, we have everything. There's nothing. I changed the fucking lights. I changed the the what time the thing goes off we change the thing going off in my son's room It's till 630 still came in at 630 this morning said hey my light change I'm can I play and I say yeah, and then he goes back and I don't go back to sleep Can somebody explain to me why we change the clocks? Well, I'll let you know when we do it on Saturday night, okay? Yeah, everyone keeps saying one of the world wars the five o'clock pitch darkness shit is is Well, I'll let you know when we do it on Saturday night. Okay.

Yeah. Everyone keeps saying, one of the world wars. The five o'clock pitch darkness shit is. Is so worst. It is depressing. The worst. When you go to work in the dark and then you leave and it's dark outside. Well, no, you go to work in the light.

Yeah, but sometimes depending how early you get up. I've had jobs where I went to work when it was dark and then you step out and it's still dark. But I'd rather go to work in the Dark and be have it be light when I get out of work. Yeah, that'd be a lot better. Yeah, I'm living in hell We're just we have not adjusted in my house where I'm living in Arizona or that little part of Indiana We just haven't changed it. There's no no good reason why we do this Stop it. Okay, Max you got something

Just that next week is gonna be be the absolute disaster. Oh, why? It's not like you're pitching against a really good, a really good team. So I would say the best, I think we should post a picture after with the team we pitched so people get hyped up. Yeah, I'm I were the PMTV this week was my bullpen that I did yesterday to get ready for it. How fast do you think my fastest pitch was? 60. 64. Oh boy, that's going to be a lot of home runs.

How fast do you think batting practice is usually? About 60. About exactly what you throw. Well, good news is you do have four outfielders So that's a little bit of advantage right at the bad news is the four outfielders are me Brandon Hank and Jerry So you have three and a half you have three outfielders

Well, I don't know I three Brandon's got in better shape, but Brandon also could easily Like the Sun better not be out that day Brandon doesn't do well outside yeah this is it where do you want us positioned me and Hank in center yeah I guess center right and center left yeah yeah and then the Jerry and Jerry and PFTs can't really play baseball yeah Jerry played baseball that's good that's good to know I didn't know that. The catching thing Max It sucks. I'm not I I don't have a big frame for you to aim for I apologize for that. That's fine I'm gonna try to wear the biggest equipment I possibly can

In our bullpen session that we had yesterday. I noticed you got a little bit of movement That's all I'm trying and Max tried to say that he was gonna have four pitches like a two seamer and a four seamer Like what do you think the difference between your two-seamer and your four-seam fastball is? Movement. Love that. Movement, okay. I'm only throwing the, I'm never throwing the four-seamer.

There's no point. Okay. And then you said that the, you've got a curveball? Yup. How do we feel about that? It's a curveball. Does it curve? It does, but it's not good.

Is it a hanging curveball? it curve it does but it's not good is it a hanging curveball yeah yes how how high does it hang it depends where I throw it Hernandez curveball and then I got a palm ball yeah a palm ball you guys wrote EFIS yeah I know I don't really understand an EFIS this would work throw it really slow I tried no you throw it high and slow I also can mix in a little submarine. Okay. Okay. What are the chances you throw out your arm?

100%. Yeah. Like, we need a, we actually, we need a pitch count. We need a pitch count. Yeah, it's six outs. When you say submarine, the meatball sub, are you talking about throwing it hard underhand or like softball style? How how mad are you gonna be if we drop an easy one so mad?

You're gonna do it on purpose. No, I won't I know I won't I'm gonna no I don't want I want to look good That's true. So I'm not it would be a shame if Hank did No Hank ones look good too. Max did all right, maybe I'll have to do it. He bounced one Into my leg. I have a feeling though Jerry would be the one to do it I feel I'm gonna get in the balls a few times man. You gotta work up Yeah, and also it sucks BFT because it's also scary about foul balls Yeah, and my umpire is I already and he was umping my bullpen. He was giving me nothing He is an honest man to a fault. Oh no. Alright, well it'll be fun for the AWLs. I'm worried, like what about come backers? Are we worried

about that? Uh yeah, that was very scary. You should look alive. Because going into it last year I was told that there might be that screen that was in front of me and then we said nah, fuck it, that's gonna look stupid. And it was a constant fear of mine. You can do a screen. You can do a screen if you want. I personally didn't. I would rather. We gotta stop comparing with. Just wear a helmet.

Yeah, wear a helmet. I thought about that. Yeah, cause like a comeback or like hitting you in the like ass would be very funny. A comeback or hitting you in the head would not be funny. I need one of those softball helmets. Also, you know what? No, I'm not gonna put bad vibes out there. What? If a comeback or hit you and you have to go to the hospital, we're still gonna come back to Chicago at a lot of time.

This is this guy. I'm thrilled that that's your biggest worry right now. It's actually not a worry That's what I'm saying. No, no the first thing that goes in your no your worry is your first thing that goes in the head is oh Will we make a bet? Ah fuck it. I'll just yeah, no, it's not a worry Can we know we've set no, but it popped into your head because that was a worry and then you were like, oh never mind I just won't I know the worry was I didn't want to say it out loud. No, I didn't want you know But it popped into your head. Yeah. Oh, yeah popped in my head. Yeah Can we uh, we look into getting fanatics to do the pants for max? Get the see-through going on you're gonna be fine. Well, I if you want to do the screen

I would do the screen so I will not call you a pussy Yeah, I'm probably gonna do this. Yeah do the good news at max if you're throwing 60 miles an hour They're probably not gonna hit like straight away shots. They're gonna pull the shit out of it They also yeah, they also could hit it wherever they want. That's not Yeah, it's 60 miles an hour. They absolutely can they absolutely can they're gonna be able to put it wherever they want Yeah, and hopefully none go in and then out of my glove Can I give you some advice max?? Yes. Read up on box. I know.

The box will get you. I mean, I know what... I'm not a good baseball player. I know the game of baseball. All right, numbers. We got Jack. That's what's bullshit. I should be able to get in the box.

17. Is Jack doing a number? Yeah, give Jack a number. Shout out Jack. Eleven. Jack is our new, he's part of our team. Twenty-four. Clipsky, the uh, twenty-four.

Jack, why are you laughing? What? Oh, someone else? No, you were just giving him an intro. Yeah. He's like twenty-four. Give me the number. Jack is a Lions fan.

Detroit sports all across the board. Yeah, but mostly Michigan football Michigan football yeah that was after the commander's Bears game and I was spiraling and Jack was laughing I was like who the fuck do you root for and he's like Lions like no fuck you but Jack welcome Jack good luck Jack Uh, three. Uh, 99. Eleven. You gotta reset. Oh, shit. Wait, is that forty that's up there?

What was that? Forty-eight is up there. It would have been forty-four. It would have been forty-four. It would have been forty-four. I gotta start making the number. It would have been forty-four. Forty-four.

That actually is the next one I wanna do because I wanna say forty-four. Five. Seventeen. Three. Eleven. Twenty-one. That actually is the next one I want to do because I want to say 5 17 76 Have the 76ers won another game? No, they haven't but Jerry McCain's really good. He is I actually bet him over 30 points last night That was awesome. He was awesome. Love you guys. Don't cut that out. So So

So I'm gonna be a good boy So So I'm going to go ahead and close the door. Thanks for watching!