Pardon My Take - Jon Gruden, Week 8 Picks And Preview, Commanders vs Bears, Rams Are Back + Fyre Fest of The Week

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

The Rams are back and looking frisky with Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua back in the lineup. The Vikings don't need to worry, just stop playing the Lions (00:00:00-00:11:56). We're going for the Uncrustables record (00:11:56-00:17:33). Week 8 picks and preview and the podcast is at war with Patriots/Jets and the Bears/Commanders with an honest discussion about Caleb vs Jayden for the first time (00:17:33-01:42:57). We do our picks and TD parlay and fantasy fuccbois (01:42:57-01:54:56). Jon Gruden joins the show to talk football, being Bobby Knight's ball boy, coaching, his facility, favorite plays and tons more (01:54:56-02:50:56). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:50:56-03:00:17).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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That's ever face mask. Yeah, it was a ridiculous face mask It was right in front of the ref too Yeah And it was it was a very bizarre way to in the game. So much so that the guy that grabbed Sam Donald by the face mask immediately put his hands on his head. Yeah. In the Oh fuck, I can't believe I just did that. What a dumb boneheaded play move. That is that's the that's international sent sign language for bonehead. Yeah, I'm a bonehead. He was just waiting for the call to happen. It just never happened. It never happened. This is why there was a rule in the UFL that there was such a thing as a super challenge

Mmm, which is a cool name, you know, a super challenges. No, it sounds awesome. It is it's very awesome You can challenge anything you want and coaches get to do it once a game so you can be like go look at this even if it's not technically quote a reviewable call and Ref can go over to a screen look at me like yeah, that's a fucking face mask Yeah, easy call the super challenge fixes that super challenge would have fixed this so yeah I mean, I think the Rams probably would have won anyway, but still suck just because it was Directly in the line of sight of the of the ref He was maybe two feet away from a face mask that every single person knew was he literally got tackled by his face mask. Yeah, but now

We have the Rams Kind of looking frisky at three and four with puka and Cooper Cup back. Did the Rams just become buyers? I mean they the all week we heard that the Rams were maybe shopping Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup Now they win this game. They've won two games in a row. They've got guys healthy. They look competent. I don't know. Well, the crazy part leading into this game was there were floating rumors out there about Matt Stafford being traded for Sam Darnold. Yeah. Which would have been insane if that had happened. I was as a fan of chaos. I was hoping that that would happen before the game

because that we'll never see that again. Yeah. And honestly, I think that that that would happen before the game because that we'll never see that again Yeah, and honestly, I think that the Rams would win that trade. Hey, I I think the Rams No, I don't think the Rams win that trade would be very funny though if you almost got me it You don't think like Sam. Don't Sam. Don't is good. He's not good Stafford's really good. Matthew Stafford is also pretty old That's true. Sam Donald's pretty young but the Vikings are trying to win right now It would have been it would have been very, I don't know, trading Matthew Stafford to a different team and think he's going to win a super bowl. I don't know if that's going to happen. Well, and also the Vikings have JJ McCarthy. So you're like, Hey, we'll have Matthew Stafford for two years. JJ McCarthy, back them up. It would have been

very funny though to trade Matthew Stafford to another team. He wins a super bowl there. And then the Rams have a good quarterback that they can build with again. Yes, again. Uh, but yeah, the Rams, I don't know, man, they next week they played at the Seahawks. That will be a massive, massive game because as crazy as the Rams are, as bad as the Rams start to the season looked and they had so many injuries, they're three and four right now and the Cardinals are three and four and the Niners are three and four and the Seahawks are at the top of the NFC West at four and three. Like I don't know. I they're my pinky team. I they're at the Seahawks dolphins at home and then at

the Patriots. They could that's it. That could be two and one. That could be three and oh like that's I don't know. They just look different. When you have those two guys out there Puka was everywhere tonight I feel like Cooper Cup didn't even really get going of course he made we were sitting there watching the game and they were trying to you know, salt the game away and It was run run and then I said out loud in the gambling cave. I'm like, this is just gonna be a perfect pass That's ridiculous to Cooper Cup somewhere on the field and that's exactly what happened right that pass, I don't know if you saw this, but Matthew Stafford gave him a point. And it looked to me like Matthew Stafford was saying, that was awesome. I got

you buddy. Almost like that's our last one that we're going to have to go. That's what it looks like. That's your reading the body language is like me and you. We did it again. But why would they sell if they're with a ride? If they're, I mean, I guess you got to see what happens next week with the Seahawks game, but why, would they they're in it? Yeah another and they're tied for second right now in the NFC What they're definitely in it like they are right in the thick of it. And yeah with those three games coming up They could be six and four. Yeah, and as for the Vikings the five so maybe it's good that they got injured early Yeah, they get healthy. I'd like the Ravens used to do Yeah, agent signed up and then you get all your guys back. And I mean, Stafford is

still incredible. I mean, he missed that one throw to two to at well, but then he just followed up with a dime to Marcus Robinson. He had four touchdowns tonight. He's just, he still got it as good as good as the Vikings receivers are. I think that the Rams, their receivers are that good in terms of how fun their names are to say Yeah, puka Nikua Cooper Cup to do that. Well, they've got even to Marcus Robinson because Marcus Robinson would be a very like and that's normal But he threw on a D in front. Yep as for the Vikings five and oh to five and two not a panic but Especially because they have the Colts and the Jaguars coming up. It feels like those are get right games from and the Titans. Oh wow. They play the Colts, Jaguars

and Titans. They played the best parts of the AFC South to play. That's pretty crazy. So that's not, it's not a panic. It's just you played the Lions last week and then you're, you're slotted to lose after that. The only panic is that their tackles hurt. Yeah. So there saw went out it I think it was a knee injury. It didn't look good. No, it did not. And it also was in those situations where you don't want to second guess, but you're on your own five yard line with 30 seconds left in the half. Yeah, maybe just kneel it out. I know that you can never

be like hindsight 2020 there, obviously, but I think we should completely flip to being hindsight guys. Yeah. Todd Bulls is an idiot. That was egregious by Kevin O'Connell to not kneel the ball. Him and Todd Bulls should be banished to the fifth circle of hell. Yeah. We're just always right. Yeah. Like everybody knew he should be out. Maybe he should take it that name. Yeah. I never would have done that. No. Also Justin Jefferson just continues to be the most ridiculous receiver ever because that catching me along the sidelines was, I don't, I still, you said it exactly what we all were thinking is like, I wish the Rams had challenged it just so we could watch it more. Yeah, yeah.

Sean McVeigh, come on, do us all a favor. We would have been able to see that replay probably four more times on TV in real time. Also credit to the Vikings for getting their asses up to the line because I feel like McVeigh would have challenged TV. Yeah. In real time. Also credit to the Vikings for getting their asses up to the line. Yeah. I feel like McVeigh would have challenged it. Yeah. Uh, but that was the fastest I've ever seen a team get up to the line and snap the next ball. Yeah. Uh, but that was a ridiculous catch. Jeff Jefferson had a million catches, no matter if you had a one guy on him or if you were double teaming him, he just gets open. Yeah. He's just all, he is always open. Yeah. And he's always open wearing that sick ass chain that he's got. That's probably worth like a always open. Yeah, and he's always open wearing that sick-ass chain that he's got

That's probably worth like a million dollars. Yeah, and he brings it on the field I yeah, I mean, I think the one thing yeah the the injury obviously offensive line But the Vikings couldn't run the ball tonight that was kind of there like the death of them Yeah, they just couldn't get a consistent run going. It felt like all night and They they kind of need that and we did find out the answer. The Vikings, I guess we found it out last week too. No, yeah, we found it out last week too, but like they got to play from ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Play for a head. All right. Anything else before we get into our week eight picks and preview? I got one thing. Are you going to go undefeated

as Celtics? You're thinking that 74 and eight 74-8 is what you're calling it? Anything from Banner Night? Are the Celtics good or did they just play the Wizards? Hmm. I mean two games, two blows. Starters having to play in the fourth quarter basically. Anything from Banner Night? Because obviously we taped early on Tuesday.

Banner Night was a dream. So you were asleep? No, it was just, it was a lot of fun. Tears were shed very emotional you cried I should I should a tear I love that All the other play all the other players, you know, I think Tatum and all the other guys on the team Well, they were crying. It's like you see other people crying. You're like damn, that's awesome. Yeah, you're like damn I got to go back to work tomorrow. Yeah

So you that's it Did you get to see coach? No, I was across. We didn't really cross paths. Did you lock eyes? No, he didn't. He didn't even see me. Not even eyes? Not even eyes. Well, did Dave get a good pop when he was on the Jumbotron?

Dave did get a good pop. Kaisenat was there. Yeah, I heard different on TikTok. Yeah, Yeah, he was boom. They definitely didn't boom. They showed Kaisen not who's like a biggest Twitch streamer. And it was like kind of a and I guess he's a Knicks fan, but it was like real life versus internet life. Like no one even reacted and they showed David after and everyone started cheering. I'm going to say that I don't believe that woman who made one TikTok was like we booed Dave Portnoy. Yeah, in Boston. It's Boston. Yeah, I don't think that's that happen. They're saying pizza review. Alright, so what was your one other thing? PFT? There's a new

study that came out. I don't know if you saw this on the athletic. Okay, a nutrition study in the NFL. Okay. They did a survey to find out which teams ate the most uncrustables Oh, yeah, I did because every team apparently the NFL goes through at least 80,000 uncrustables per year That's giving them to teams which I mean uncrustable. It is the perfect snack. We might be up there Yeah, our office goes through we go through like well, how many are in a box? Eight no, but we get the big big ones. I don't know how many are in that one. But I still think it's eight. They'll be opened and then on fresh and crustable day,

and they're gone in an hour. We should see. All right, so what was the record? For a while, I think two a day for lunch. It's just the perfect snack. Yeah, yeah. So what was the record? All right, so teams eat 80,000 in total per year.

And then they broke it down weekly by the teams that eat the, so the teams eat 80,000 in total per year. And then they broke it down weekly by the teams that eat the most and the teams that eat the least. Team that eats the least amount of uncrustables, New Orleans Saints. Oh wow. That checks out. Yep. Team that eats the most,

and by the way, the Saints eat 50 uncrustables a week. So that's like, that's not even one per person. Yeah, that's lightweight. That's ramifications being cap hell. Okay. And then the team that eats the most, the Denver Broncos. Okay.

They eat 700 uncrustables a week. And how many weeks? Is it the whole season? 700 per week. For the whole, for the season or the year? I don't know where they eat. I think for the season. Okay, you know what I'm saying?

In season, yeah. Not 52 weeks, but yeah. Right, because I think the facilities season. Okay, you know, it's not 52 weeks but Right because I think the facilities probably shut down at times but 700 a week is a lot and maybe that's why they're playing So well, I'm asking that because I kind of want to see if we can we can break the record I think that we go through I the only the only thing that's stopping us is that we just run out of them Like if I if I was like we will never run out of uncrustables. How many uncrustables do you think this office would eat a week? I personally would put away, I'd say 20 a week. Okay. I mean, there's like what I could do 20 there's 70 people here.

I think we could easily put away like 400, 500 a week. So that would put us in second place in the NFL. That's, that's how much the Denver Broncos love on crustables. Second place is the Seahawks and they're down at 320. All right. So next week, starting on Monday, I will make sure that we do not run out of Uncrustables at all for the week and we'll keep track. For this office, I'll send out an email.

I'll be like, it's my, we're doing a study. Eat as many Uncrustables as you want. We will not run out and we'll just see where we land. I predict we're gonna be in the like thousand range. No joke, I actually do. It's so good. Because I go look for them and the only reason I don't eat them is because they're not there.

Like we'll run out all the time. Yeah, but when they're there. Do you always eat it? And I'm in the kitchen, I'm about to order lunch and I see the, I'm like fuck, I'm just gonna have two uncrustables alright, so yeah Well, that's what that will be my promise to this office next week starting Monday We're gonna we're gonna do just uncrustable week where it's like eat as many as you want don't feel bad

Don't force yourself to eat them don't take any home although. They probably take some home You think so they probably take some in the on the in the car. I think Bo Nicks is like put them in his backpack Yeah, for sure. They do love white corners. That's what the bread is. Do you think? Well, no corners. But it's white. Yeah. White edges. Yeah. Do you think that maybe that's what Sean Payton fell in love with when Bo Nix opened up his backpack? That's full of Uncrustables. You ever seen Pulp Fiction with the briefcase? Yeah. That's Bo Nix's backpack. Yeah. It was just filled with Uncrustables. He probably takes them home. Peyton, I can imagine Peyton is a guy that like during football season, he doesn't eat any actual meals. Yeah.

He just snacks. He just eats Uncrustables all day. Do you have to refrigerate Uncrustables or we just do that? You probably should. Definitely have to. And I also, I've already texted our office manager and said, we're going to need all of of the uncrossable. Yeah, I mean I'll go to Costco I'll just buy myself. I'll get a I'll bring the boom I think it's gonna be easily a thousand uncrossable. So I'm excited for but but we need to make it clear Like this is not don't don't try to gorge yourself Yeah, eat eat what just if you are hungry and you're like, what am I gonna eat and there's an uncrossable there eat the uncrossable But don't be like I have to try to break a record and I actually think you could lose weight eating uncrossable

I agree. I agree peanut butter's got tons of protein in it. Yep Bread is the biggest part of the food pyramid, which is really really healthy and scientific Do you know what we need to get? Cuz here's the other thing rape holding us down vegetables. Probably is I think part of it is that our Refrigerators in the kitchen not big enough. They're not big enough and they're also like you got a you got it You you have to like look underneath We need to get an uncrossable refrigerator. That's just sitting on top of the counter. That's just stacked with uncross the bulls. Yeah Or you just get rid of Hank's pinball machine

and just make that the uncrustables. Oh yeah, that's a good call. I'm looking at my pinball machine. I was hoping that the weather was gonna be a little bit colder next week because we could just leave them outside. Yeah, but no, what we'll do is we'll just take them out of the box and we'll just be like,

this is the uncrustable fridge. And it just has only uncrustables in it. And just eat as many as you want We're going for records. They had a great quote from the the inventor of the uncrustable. His name is Len Kretschman Okay, he said we're not recreating the atomic bomb here We're trying to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich love it fucking nailed it love like that guy that guy knows his product He did it. Yeah All right, let's get to our week eight picks and preview. And then we have an incredible interview with John Gruden. Okay, before we get to week eight

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Use code AWL for free delivery. Okay, boys, week eight, no buys. No buys at all. That's a weird time to not have buys. I remember distinctly over the course of my many years playing fantasy football that I would always draft players like everyone would have a buy on week eight. Yeah. Everyone. Why do you not have a buy on week eight this year? I don't know. It kind of pisses me off. Not

that I'm upset about more football, but the amount of games I'm mad because they did the two Monday night games last week. Yeah. This would be the perfect week to do two Monday night. You now have given us, I think it's what's the split this week. Is it a eight and five? I'm not sure what the split is. I think it's what's the split this week is it eight and five I'm not sure what the split is I think it's Eight and five don't have international games either right so I think it's I think it's eight early five late Which it's gonna be a chaotic day. It's you're gonna have to you're gonna have to lock in you're gonna have to make sure you Get some sleep on Saturday night eight and five is a lot but

We got some great games, and we're gonna get through our week eight picks and preview let's start with the Philadelphia Eagles going to the Cincinnati Bengals. We mentioned this on Monday's show, but it's a very weird Scheduling quirk that both these teams played the Browns and the Giants as their last two opponents Yeah, and the Eagles are now going to Cincinnati. This the Bengals I believe are still in must win territory. They have to win everything. Must win season. Must win season. Fun weird stat by the Eagles. The Eagles have not scored a single point

in the first quarter this season. Yeah, they don't get off to good starts. I got I got a fun fact. Maybe the fun fact of the week for this game. Okay. Two out of the last four times these two teams have played each other, they've tied. Tied. The John of the McNab tie. Yeah, that's one of them where he didn't know that the game could end in a tie. This is big tie energy this week. I would agree with that.

What are the odds if you bet a tie? Usually pretty high. Yeah. 10 to 1. 15 to 1. But this one should probably be like 2 to 1. Yeah., I'm draft Kings cuz it's got big tie energy. Uh, they also Cincinnati hasn't won at home this year. That's crazy Yeah, we also have Joe burrow We talked about Lamar Jackson versus the NFC Joe burrow sneaky putting together a nice resume against the NFC

So in his last 11 games against the NFC, he's 10 and 1 straight up pretty nice. It's pretty good Yeah, he's 10 and 1 straight up in his last 11 games against the NFC he's 10 and 1 straight up pretty nice it's pretty good yeah he's 10 and 1 straight up in his last 11 games versus the NFC I have a question for you Max first let's vibe check must win three-way money line is is a draws that's a tie right yeah yeah 60 to 1 660 to 1 plus 6,000 oh wait yeah Oh Wait, yeah, yeah plus six that yeah 61, okay, I was way off Yeah, that's that's the best value on the board. I think halftime time is usually 10. Oh, yeah That's what it is. Okay. That's what I know over time is a different one, too, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about Max general vibe check You know, we beat the Giants. So I'm a little bit. I'm a little bit more excited than I was the week before,

but it's still the Giants. If we win this one though, I'm all the way back. If we win this one, I'm thinking Suppy. And you got, oh, we're back in Suppy now. I love that. But if we lose this- Max, did you hear that? Hank just laughed at you when you said it.

But I know he doesn't think that. Hank, the Eagles are a good team. Why are you laughing at him? Because he doesn't think that. Yeah, he doesn't think that no, the Eagles are a good team. Why are you laughing? I doesn't think yeah He doesn't think that he's just trying to He's he's he's trying to boast himself up like I think that was fake as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's fake You're not thinking soupy. No, I I still have my doubts with this team last week They looked really good if they looked really good again this week, I could see myself getting excited.

But right now I'm still not excited for this team. Which is kind of like they're four and two, coming off a big win. They beat the Packers who everyone says is a Super Bowl contender. I should be more optimistic, but I'm not. And I don't. And I kind of feel like that's the way that most of Philadelphia feels about this team. And if they lose to the Bengals, it's a right back to fire. Sirianni, I think, if they beat the Bengals, I think

most fans will be like, all right, maybe this Sirianni guys figuring it out. Yeah. Maybe this is actually going to work out this week. Yeah, that's just kind of how it's a week to weekly Your game-to-game status in terms of confidence. Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, you've won back-to-back games, which is good That's the first step. I guess the Browns and it's been a long time Yeah, so I mean it could be worse you could be the Cardinals and well I guess we'll get to them later and it's you know how long it's been now since the Cardinals have won back-to-back games forever. It's now three years. Damn Yeah, it's been three years. So as long as we think that it is for the Eagles It was November and if that feels like an eternity

Yeah, no, it's not good But it could be good, but it could be good Yeah, so it's not good, but it could be good. It could be really bad. Yeah. That's high level analysis. I have a question for you, Max. I saw an insane stat on X from Brendan Deague. He said Lane Johnson's only offensive tackle in the league with a minimum of 100 pass blocking snaps to allow less than five pressures this season. So of all the offensive tackles who've had 100 pass blocking snaps, he's the only one to allow less than five pressures this season. He's only allowed one single pressure. And it got me thinking, is Lane Johnson on the Mount Rushmore of Eagles? For sure. Because you want a Super Bowl. So who's on the Mount Rushmore of Eagles? Westbrook?

No, we had this discussion yesterday. Reggie White? Reggie White for sure. Kelsey? Brian Dawkins? Yeah. T.O. Not T.O. McNabb? Freddie Mitchell. McNabb maybe. But Lane Johnson deserves more credit for being maybe the best right tackle of all time He's the best right tackle in the ball right now What? Kelsey Kelsey Kelsey, maybe if I had to pick I would say Reggie white Brian Dawkins Lane Johnson Jason Kelsey Okay, if I if I were able to pick my my guys that is that would that be the only franchise that wouldn't have a single quarterback on there

Yeah, I mean there's probably I probably will put Nick Foles ahead of Donna McNabb Little that little meme baby You don't think No, okay, I mean it would it would be Like Buccus Yeah, or Payton, Erlacher, Dicka, I mean, Gale Sayers. There's no, there's no quarterbacks.

We've had some decent quarterbacks, but I just like the other guy. Those other guys are just legends. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was just thinking about it. Like that stat is insane, that there's been no offensive tackle in the league that has allowed less than five pressures

and he's only allowed one. He has just been so consistently incredible at his job for such a long time now that I think it's because he plays right tackle and not left tackle that people don't give him credit, but he is, I mean, he's a hall-famer and he is just, it's crazy, like the job of an offensive lineman, if you're a peak great offensive lineman, the job is that you just, it's crazy, like, the job of an offensive lineman, if you're a peak, great offensive lineman,

the job is that you just never talk about them, but we should talk more about Lane Johnson because he is so great. And he's so instrumental in determining whether or not you guys win. Yeah. That's the thing about it. Like, his win-loss record is incredible. Yeah. I mean, Jason Kelsey was great.

Jason Kelsey would probably tell you that Lane Johnson was more important than Jason Kelsey. I think he has said that before. Right, so that tells you everything. He's incredible. Who are you more nervous about, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, or Yoshi? I think Jamar Chase.

Okay, it could have been Yoshi. I like Yoshi. Yoshi's a beast. If Yoshi's name wasn't Yoshi would would Would we be happy? Probably not. I'll be honest. He was born in Japan That's kind of cool. The thing is we probably wouldn't be having this conversation But we should be having this conversation if his name wasn't Yoshi. Yeah, here's the thing He's playing really well and you will know like he's had a couple games

He has Yoshi games where he just has two touchdowns. You're like, god damn it, I can deal with Jamar Chase beating me, but Yoshi beating me. Yeah, no, the Eagles are going to have to score a lot of points in this game, I think. And probably hold them to less points. Yeah, but I think they're also going to score a lot of points, so if we are able to figure out a way that we can score more points than them, then I think that we in a pretty good spot just limiting how many points they do score and because I'm rising as much as we can Yeah, how do you plan on doing that? Wanting it more. Yep, AJ Brown. Well, I guess just When in doubt just throw a deep all day J brown and just pound the rock with Saquon

Okay, last question for you. How much does Joel and bead being investigated affect the Eagles? Um, this, that means nothing. What do you mean? That's an investigation. The Sixers are being, you, you said this to me, the Sixers are being investigated. Bees being investigated. The Sixers on the Sixers, the Sixers management on the investigation. Okay. About Joel and be about Joel. Joel is gonna have to be deposed because that they are Trying to stop load management in the NBA and the M and the Sixers are just saying fuck it. We'll pay the fine We're still gonna do load manager. I love that the first game of the season for you guys

It's like investigation with Joel and beat is missing a game there must be something weird going on Yeah, I'm being obsessed with the six because you're on my last last last games. Where is your heart? Where's my heart? Where's your the Sixers heart? Where's the sixers heart is it in is it in New Jersey is Their heart in the game Like they just want to pay the fines. How about you just have some heart and play the games? Sure, we're trying to be healthy for the post for the post. What about the kids though max? What about the kids that that spent their hard-earned allowance money to go see their favorite player?

Joel and bead play an opening they gave a bunch of thing during the office and like most professionals They wanted to represent his country professionals. They wanted to represent his country. Mm hmm. Wanted to represent his country in France. He wanted to represent his country of the US of A. I just think it's interesting. Hand Cades America, that's fine. I mean that was two weeks. It's a long off season. They did. They made the play. They had a long off season. Well, they lose the first round. US of A baby. I'd like to say something that's going to probably end up on the bonk list

But I just want to say it because it's ended up in my algorithm which X to hat tip to X X that come the everything is fucking crazy. So here's how we're we're going to a bonk from here Well, because I think I thought a load management and then there's this woman Me that's just horny everyone's gotten in their algorithm. There's this woman who everyone's trying to shame online because she basically did a video where it's like, hey, remember me? I'm the one who just did a video where I had 23 dudes run train on me. I'm actually going to up it and I'm going to do 100. So if you want to run train on me, I'm doing 100 guys in a day.

And I just wanted to say, hat tip to that woman for for you know raising the bar I've not seen this you guys have seen it. I mean how many are plodding? Yeah, she's just like hey guys It's me the 23 Whatever it was however many she's like if you want to be part of the next The next one I'm doing a hundred dudes in a day. Do you remember that like reach for this reach the stars? Did you remember that down like? 40 40 students of young men and now I'm gonna take down the dads Yeah

You're the one woman during the World Cup a few years ago that said like she'll suck off Everybody that replies to this tweet if like England ends the World Cup. Yeah, okay, so I'm seeing it right now I went viral for letting 23 guys run a train on me next feet a hundred men in a row Yeah, and everyone's shame here. It's like what we can't just be ambitious anymore. Are we just stopping ambition in this world? sad Yeah, find it find it man. Oh first reply Tiffany Gomez. Oh, what'd she say? She said what in the entire and I can't emphasize this enough fuck and then a gross face. Come on And I can't emphasize this enough. Fuck.

And then a gross face. Come on. Let's not slut shame here. No, she's just, she's upping the game. She, I'll tell you what, if Joel Embiid had half the heart of this woman, he'd be a champion. That's a fact. Fact.

This is a great Eagles Bengals preview that we're doing right now. That's just a fact. Let's talk about this girl who's getting fucked. And how it relates to Joel Embiid. Yes. And which which then relates to the Eagles. It is. Yes. Literally load management load man. Where is she putting all this spur. That's what I said. Yeah. That's why it popped in my head. But either way I just I yeah maybe

have maybe Joel Embiid needs to take a page out of this woman's book and just think about hey I'm going to keep pushing the limit even for Joe and Pete complaints about playing back to backs please about going mile high yeah go ahead play the video it's it's it's PG the explanation is PG I went viral for letting 23 guys run a train on me with my friend Bonnie I didn't't expect her. It looks like this You know where to go, but if you want to be part the next one I'm actually doing a hundred guys in one day So head on over to my Twitter to find out how to apply put your hard hat on going to work

I appreciate that that's a that's a woman that's making a hundred guys days better Huh good also on beat take notes bro when you say going viral for having 20 guys fuck me that's that's I instantly just think STD yeah I don't I don't know if I I don't know if I thought I see I just was like whoa that's a lot the viral part you just assume yeah the viral part is what did it yeah okay so that was Bengals Eagles um let's Ravens Browns. We have 16 games to get through, or 15 games to get through. So we'll go a couple- Deshaun Watson's not playing this week.

Deshaun Watson's not playing. Jameis is in. I'm so excited. This is a PSA to everyone out there. You do not know how many Jameis starts we'll get for the rest of our lives. So you embrace the ones that we do have. Yeah. I am. Listen, the vibes couldn't be better. Just I have no idea. I'm just speaking on knowing Jamis and not knowing Deshaun Watson, thankfully. But that locker room has to be so pumped to feel like they have a chance because Jamis is going to take a chance. Yeah. And also just, you mentioned the vibes like Deshaun Watson, all time, bad vibes this year, all time. He never smiled. They never had any fun on the field with James. You're going to be having fun. It's going to be crazy.

You don't know what to expect. I don't know what it's like to root for a team where James is the quarterback of that team, but I think that he is the best player in the NFL to be playing for a different team that you don't root for because he makes any game that much more exciting. Yes. And I had a thought about Jimmy Haslam earlier. He is like probably the worst owner in the NFL, right?

That's like him and Tepper fighting for the crown. Is there any chance that the NFL steps in and makes Jimmy Haslam sell the team? He should sell that team. He should sell the franchise. And I'm not saying that because of like Deshaun Watson and all his legal investigations and all that. That sucked. But we know that the NFL will turn a blind eye

to pretty much anything that a player does. And it won't like punish an owner for employing a shitty like human being. Yeah. Right? That's pretty common in the NFL. The one thing that owners do not like is when you fuck with their money. Right.

And Jimmy Haslam giving to Sean that guaranteed contract pissed everybody off in the NFL. Like Dan Snyder was a world-class scumbag. They didn't do shit about it until they thought he was withholding money from them. And then they're like, Oh, now all of a sudden we care about all this other stuff off the field. I think that there's a there's a chance I'm not saying it's a high chance But there is a chance that the other owners turn on Haslam because of what he did with the contract

Yeah, and set that precedent and I hope for Cleveland fans that they get to experience that I he should sell the team It's just a fan of the sport. Yeah, he's fucked everything up in that town So I'm rooting for the owners to like turn on him and and to kick him out and to get somebody else in there That will actually take care of so think about how hard it was to get Snyder out Yeah, but it's when you fuck with their money. That's when they start caring I know but they just rich guys just like other rich guys and if he has friends that are other rich guys I don't know. I mean I agree with you, but I just it's harder than me. You know what we could do? The have you guys seen this is the new member? It used to be the Bucks won the NFC North slash central more recently

than the Lions until the Lions with the Lions win it last year. Yeah, the Lions won last year. That was always the meme. The Browns. I think it's the Jaguars the Titans and The Oilers have all won it more recently than the Browns the Oilers the AFC north central because it was the central and then the north Yeah, it's bad. It's been so start naming that yeah, I'm aiming that all the time put some put some pressure on this Haslem guy Get him out of there. Yeah, we got to put some pressure the good of the league and we've got Ken Dorsey taking over play calling this week Ken Dorsey I guess he just vibes better with Jamis. Yeah, I think I Browns could be live in this game I mean the Ravens are a wagon the Ravens have looked really Unstoppable their offense at least their defense still not the best and Marlon Humphrey. I think is out for at least a couple weeks

their defense still not the best and Marlon Humphrey I think is out for at least a couple weeks But yeah, I think the I think the rave the Browns are gonna get like it's almost like a one Interim head coach bump. They're gonna get a quarterback bump here. By the way, I have a couple stats for you First one is Derek Henry ranks this season He's first in rushing first in rushing yards first in rush TDs first in rush TDs, first in yards per rush, first in rush first downs, first in longest rush, first in scrimmage yards, first in scrimmage TDs. Still very, very good. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, he's first in everything. Also, Mark Andrews scoring two touchdowns on Monday night became the all-time leader in reception touchdowns for the Ravens, which I was like,

damn, that's kind of sad that a tight end with 43 touchdown receptions is the all-time receiver in franchise history. And then kind of similar to the quarterback conversation we just had with the Bears, I was like, let me look this up. And it was very sad. It's very bad. And the Giants too. The Giants, Monty Tum So who did who did he pass? Did he pass? Yeah, yeah. No, Todd Heap. Yeah, he would be the next guy up. If you look at what the Ravens have done with their wide receivers for the last like 15 years, they've just been committed to not ever having a good wide receiver. Yeah, Trey Flowers. He's he is very good. He is very good. Zay Flowers. Sorry, Zay Flowers.

Yeah. The and then the last that I had this is a reminder Who's gonna be in charge of reminders? I have the reminder in the oh no No, I will. What was that? I had the reminder in today for the hammer the ramps. Okay. Okay. Are we hammering the ramps? So you're the reminder guy. Are you the reminder guy? I will be Okay, so it sounds like you're the reminder guy Lamar Jackson in eight career games on Monday night football is 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions, 1700 passing yards, 681 rushing yards, 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions. They play Monday night football November 25 at the Chargers. Reminder, the Harbaugh bowl, just take all the overs for Lamar everything that's a

pretty insane step yeah 22 touchdowns your interceptions on Monday football yeah I'm just excited about James I'm so pumped so pumped for James since 2013 this will be the 64th game played by a backup quarterback for the Browns the most the NFL over that span by over 15 games that's crazy since Those poor fans. Insane. I feel like Brown's fans are going to be excited again.

Yeah. For at least a game. Yeah, for at least a game. You're going to get drunk and be happy before the game, as opposed to just getting drunk and feeling like you're walking on the green mile to your execution going to the stadium. Is Myles Garrett going to get traded?

I don't know. I don't know. I feel like Garrett and Crosby are the two names. Last night. They probably should. Last night, I went to the Out of Order show I don't know. I don't know. I feel like Garrett and Crosby are the two names last night I probably should last night we I went to the out-of-order show because I was emceeing it and a Guy sitting next to me just was like hey big cat Have you heard anything about miles Garrett to the Packers and my heart dropped for a second that'd be tough Yeah

It'd be also very mean to trade him this close to Halloween because he's probably got his lawn set up with everything and he's Going all out. He's gonna have to take those decorations down is the trade deadline. I think is next week though Yeah, I think it might be on Halloween or might be the day before I thought it was I thought it was on election day Oh, is it? Yeah, I think trade deadline might NFL trade deadline. Oh Yeah, you're right. November 5th 4 p Eastern. Okay, so yeah, trade them after Halloween. Oh, in the past, it was October 31. Last thing about the Ravens, as good as they've been, and they've been incredible. Keaton Mitchell just started returning to practice. Remember him? Yeah. So that adds another weapon for that offense that has just been rolling over

people. Yeah, Marlon Humphrey, he had didn didn't he have two picks? He had two picks and then hurt himself. I thought that Marlon Humphrey like in every offseason I assume that he's retired just because of his Twitter account. He tweets like, excuse me, x.com. He exes like a retired guy. He's like promoting Ethereum and like all this weird shit. He's out of pocket on Twitter and I absolutely love the guy But he's a guy that psychs me out and I'm like wait, did he retire or not? Yeah What what do you got Hank? You had something? Oh Would you have max? Did you lean in? Okay. I read that wrong. All right Titans at lions

I'm gonna fucking do it again. I'm gonna bet the Titans you're addicted. I didn't last week. I Didn't last week. Did you think that they got better by getting rid of Hopkins? No I saw a stat. Well no I think it's just neutral. Yeah. I think Deandre Hopkins is gonna be good for the Chiefs but he was just it was just neutral. It is that's like the classic Titans move too isn't it? Like they love old wide receivers. Yeah. They love old wide receivers that were very very good for other teams So if you look at their history, they've signed at the end of their careers Andre Johnson Randy Moss

Julio Jones Calvin Ridley Deandre Hopkins Decker's he oh, I don't think he played for the Titans, but but it fits that vibe, right? Tio definitely played for the Titans in my brain. They're gonna must play for the Titans I said yeah, yeah, Eric molds. They love getting old wide receivers that don't do shit for them They never never learned their lesson. I you know what? Let me be the first report Amari Cooper will play for the Titans at some point at the end of his career. Yeah, but that's like ten years from now Yeah, still sneaky kind of young Yeah, I don't this. All right. So here's

the case and I don't know if I'm actually going to do it. But here's just at least the case. The Lions for the first time in franchise history are now the odds on favorites to win the NFC. The Lions are also this is the first time that they are a double digit favorite under Dan Campbell. They just came off a very emotional two weeks where they killed the Cowboys, beat the Vikings in a back and forth shootout. They are now number one in the NFC North. They can beat the Titans with their hand behind the back. I'm not saying that the Lions are going to lose this game. I'm just saying 11 and a half is a lot of points because they pay those guys too. Titans run defenses pretty good and that that's kind of where I and then I just fall off a cliff because then

if you asked me like name one of the nice thing about the Titans, I'm like, can't I can't do it Adam, Adam Schefter is very close to their general manager because he's starting to just gas up their transactions online. So he's giving credit to them for I guess they've traded a linebacker and some draft picks and ended up with more draft picks and a better linebacker Okay, he's like look between the read between the lines. This is how you build a team right now So they might have started tanking. This might be if you're a Titans fan Oh, they definitely have I think Brian Callahan said we're our roster is gonna be picked over. Yeah So they're gonna build for the future. I do agree with you that it is a lot of points

It's just a letdown spot of letdown spots. And again, I think the Lions will win the game I just don't know like if they start a little slow Who knows eleven and a half points? This is stupid I'm gonna do it and I'm gonna hate myself for doing it because the Lions are gonna be up 14 nothing and then we'll just Be like, okay now that's over. It feels like Tim Patrick season, right? Yeah. Tim Patrick, Alan Robinson. Yeah, so Jameson Williams suspended, but also was at practice.

Yeah, they're letting the rope down for him is what Dan Campbell said. He's gotta pull back up. Yeah, he lost grip of the rope. He had worked his way back up, but we're gonna wait here and that rope's gonna be waiting for him. Yeah, so I don't know if he's playing or not,

because I think then there was an idea that he was appealing. I don't think that he was appealing. I think he's at practice. I don't I think he's going to start his suspension this week. I think although you made a good point that if he really wants to return fast, yeah, two games would be the ones Thursday night. Uh, is there anything about an appeal, Max? Okay, so they're prepared to not have him. It feels like the suspension was announced and then it was by ESPN, but then the NFL didn't announce it and it was just the whole thing was kind of weird.

I think he's going to sit out this week. Alright, I'm going to assume he's going to be out. Alright, next up, Cardinals Dolphins. Tua is back, we think. Tyreek Hill said that he wanted to cry. He said he looked great, felt like old times. Me and him connected on a few deep shots today and that kind of got me feeling good today.

I missed that. I missed him. I told him I gotta take him and his wife to dinner because I missed him so much. Shit was so beautiful. That shit almost made me cry today. Like just having him in the lineup, having him call the plays, having him direct the offense, like just hearing his voice. Again, we'll say it seems like a really nice guy, but that's the Tim Boyle effect. Well, yeah, Tim Boyle is making grown men cry. Yeah.

It feels like it's a back to having like a semblance of an actual offense right now. Yeah. Which I I'm happy for Dolphins fans that you get to watch maybe more entertaining game. It's gonna feel weird seeing two out there though. Every every time he gets sacked. I'm gonna be like, every time he tucks and runs with the ball, I'm gonna be like, be careful to be careful to Yeah, it's because we've seen all of his concussions have come in like standalone game. Yeah, so he should be good. Knock on wood for this game. Yeah, because it's all eyes aren't on him right now. No, no, I like the Dolphins in this game. I think Short week for the Cardinals cross-country you mentioned it Cardinals have one back-to-back games

So they haven't won two weeks in a row in three years They did win technically back-to-back games in like November of that season, but it was there was a bye week in between Oh, that's so like two weeks in a row. It's been November 24th 2021 that's crazy. So dolphins would be if we're going on history here, that would be a smart pick Also, did you did you notice on Monday Night Football? They had Kyler run the tush push twice in a row. Is he the worst quarterback to do a tush push with? Because their their play caller was defending that he's like, we like that play.

We're going to keep running it. It didn't work either time. Yeah, he probably is unless you're right young. Yeah, Bryce Young, unless young would just get I think I think he would there's a chance if he did the tush push they would the rest would come and do the pile and he just be dust underneath. He just crumples into shoes like when an anvil drops on a cartoon character is in the ground and then he starts standing up and he makes the accordion sound. Yeah

Yeah, they could have Marvin Harrison jr. Just pick up Kyler and throw him over the line of scrimmage I'd be sick. That would be the better play to run. Yeah, I like the Dolphins this game though My friends at sports info solutions. They have the Dolphins is the second best in terms of pass blocking the Cardinals are 25th in terms of D blocking the Cardinals are our 25th in terms of D line and they got injuries so I think the Dolphins gonna be back I think this is the week we're gonna be like dolphins back so you remember when they scored 70 points against the Broncos yes last year yes okay so the Dolphins now have 70 points through their first six games. Six games, 70 points. Last year they did that

in one game. Tim Boyle. Tim Boyle effect. Tim Boyle effect. Okay. Next game. Wait, I lost my notes. I got it. Chats and Patriots. Memes. I'll start with you. Which one do you, which story do you want to start with? Aaron Rodgers getting another injury added to him in his body or Aaron Rodgers eating his own boogers? I will go injury. Okay, so Aaron Rodgers has a hamstring injury that has been added to his ankle and knee injuries. I'm gonna say it. He might be getting old. You think his injury prom I think he might be getting old PFT. You think he's injury-prone? I think he might be getting old, PFT. Injuries happen. He's not that old.

Okay. He's pretty old. He literally added a hamstring injury to his ankle and knee injury. Yeah, he might be old. But would you rather have the same leg have all those injuries or have them sprinkled around like right hamstring, left ankle, right knee? I think you need him sprinkled. Also he is that old.

He's going to be 41 in a month. Quarterbacks don't, Tom Brady fucked everyone's brain up. Yeah, I saw Jules say that. He's right. He said that about, he's, he said it about, uh, Tom Brady going to the bucks and Matthew Stavro going to the Rams and being like instant super bowl. He fucked up teams being like, we're're a quarterback away we can get the old quarterback but just the age thing is what has fucked everyone up like 40 41 is an old quarterback. Yes he's old. Okay. He's old.

I can't believe we had to we had to drop stats on you of his age. He's old. But let's talk about the booger thing because the Jets have come a long way back in the day they'd have Mark Sanchez and he would take the boogers out of his age. He's old. But let's talk about the booger thing. Because the jets have come a long way. Back in the day, they'd have Mark Sanchez and he would take the boogers out of his nose and then wipe them on Mark Brunel's jacket. Now you've got their quarterback taking his boogers out of his own nose and then swallowing them. What did you think when you saw that? Aaron said he did not eat it. Okay. I saw him eat the booger. He said the other angle will show you that he did not. Deep fake? It's a deep fake. Can I half defend Aaron Rodgers in this? Don't eat your boogers. I don't like when people shame for picking your nose. Everyone picks their fucking nose.

Picking your nose is fine. Everyone in the world picks their nose. If you don't say, if you say you don't pick your nose, you're a fucking liar. It's the same thing as like people who pee in pools, like, oh, I don't pee in pools. No, you're a liar. Yeah, picking your nose is fine, but the conversation is like the eating the booger is the part that concerns me. Yeah. Yeah, he shouldn't have eaten his booger.

He said he has never eaten a booger. But we saw him. Yeah. We didn't. It's on camera. Never has to be a lie. Yeah, never's a lie. Like when you're a kid, everyone everyone right a booger. Yeah hand up

I ate a booger when I was like five yeah in for sure ivy But whatever the worst thing I'm dealing with now is my son picks his nose Then he just turns me says where should I put this on them? What do you do? What do you mean? Like it's your it's your booger dude. you fucking figure it out. I'm not taking it It was just like try to hand me his booger That is a valid question because you never really know where to put I just And then it just it's someone else's way to go that for that a lot in my household It just ends up on the carpet. Your girlfriend's getting like her feet stuck in the e-wag.

Get a napkin. You need Aaron Rodgers to come clean it up with his mouth. I had some... Lord Taylor used to eat boogers on the sub, but for him it was like taking an Adderall. Yeah. He would get amped up when Aaron Rodgers eats a booger. There's nothing there. If anything, he's got like hallucinogens in there.

Yeah, Lord Taylor just didn't want to waste any. So you added, you fired Robert If anything, he's got like hallucinogens in there. Yeah, Lord soldiers didn't want to waste any. Yeah So you added you fired Robert Sala. Yep, you added to Fonte Adams You added a son Reddick. So this is every every week We got to do something for the Jets to be like, hey, it's not the problem here. I have a new thing, too Aaron Rodgers said after the loss of Steelers Aaron Rodgers said after the loss of Steelers That there was a major moment in the team culture finally evolving because Devontae Adams gave a speech That he said was the realest speech he'd heard in a locker room in 20 years

Yeah, Devontae Adams is now also the coach, okay, okay co-coaches, okay player owner coach Devante Adams you have to win this game memes I'm with you if we win. I'm thinking I'm thinking soupy. I love that. I love what is the new guy though What does Devante Adams say that makes it the realest speech ever that Aaron Rodgers has ever heard in his first week with the team He probably was like I heard a lot about how this Jets organization sucked, but now that I'm here. Oh my god. Yeah You guys weren't lying. Yeah, like the realist speech. We got no help here. We have to do it just players Yeah, the organization is gonna do shit. Yeah the organization they raised ticket prices season ticket prices. Woody Johnson this past week Perfect timing. Yeah, I think it was 23% last year Yeah, they're in high demand

People just keep going Devontae Adams is like I want to see more fireman ed on the jumbotron What the fuck is going on the fireman ed Rogers did back a fireman edge Which I respect cuz I do think you do the ecosystem needs the super fan the ecosystem needs a super fan I'm an ed's kind of a fraud. He walked away. Yeah, no, I know he did but I think he was like But Fireman Ed- I think he was like fighting people because they'd be like, the Jets suck. And then he was just, he was just fighting everyone. And then he was like, I need to, I just need to step away from them.

No, he stepped away after the butt fumble. He gave up on the franchise. I heard a story that he was just, it was fist fight. People were like, the Jets suck. And he's like, nuh-uh. Yeah, pretty much. I think he gave a statement after the butt fumble. He's like I'm not coming back. This team is a disgrace Oh, I agree though like the NFL ecosystem. I do love the super fan

Yeah, fan is important, especially the ones that that think they're a part of the team. Yeah, I love that about the NFL I just think that in this case fireman ed kind of a fraud. You can't just quit and then come back Memes I have something positive means is right memes is right oh he got in a fight that according to Wikipedia which is fact he retired as a self-proclaimed mascot of the New York Jets stating he would attend games but not in character he later explained that confrontations with a small number of Jets fans had ruined the experience for him yeah actually that's not that doesn't necessarily mean fight But he also chose the game after the butt from what do it the question is did he still go to the games?

If he just didn't go in character, I think he I think he's okay But you could just he could just say that you just say that I was going to the games and when he wasn't true We're gonna see if we can find him at the games Quits is just Unofficial, I I love that he quit too just because again, he's unofficial so he didn't have to quit to anyone Yeah, he gave up his salary of zero dollars. Yeah Means I have some positive things for you. You ready for it ready? Uh the Jets last four games They have played the second it is all epa per play

the second best defense the first best defense the 11th best defense the sixth best defense so they have had a mini gauntlet here in terms of playing against really tough defenses the patriot's defense is quote-unquote soft they don't have soft players. Do you think, do you think that there will be a bounce off of soft game? It's either it's going to be a bounce. I just don't know which way it's going to go. They're going to be, you know, a locker room comes together or the dissension is everywhere and team gives up and they get blown out. There was a rumor going around.

So it's either gonna be a win or a loss. No, but like a. What's your prediction, a win or a loss? I lean towards 20 point loss. Okay. There's a rumor this week that Jared Mayo was gonna be one and done. Yeah, I've heard that.

That's picking up steam. Picking up a lot of steam, yeah. Yes, yeah've heard that that's picking up steam. Yeah, yes. Yeah. So there's rumors you fired this week. Yeah, this year. Vrabes hot seat. Yeah, dude, just switch your hot mail. Would you like to see that? Not this week. I think you got to give him the season. But I think reading the comments, by the way, under like anyone who reports what Kirk says is so funny. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, season but I think reading the comments by the way under like anyone who reports what Kirk says is so funny yeah it's great yeah Kirkman and reported that

they were getting rid of them yeah I believe the report and I believe the point no except 48 hours I believe right it's imminent I believe they're gonna fire him right before the game yeah it could happen at any moment within these 48 hours I think that's unfair to coach Mayo to do this year, but I think it's probably smart to move on after the season. Someone else had a clip, I saw maybe it was Simmons posted a clip that was like, it was a clip from five years ago that was Kraft being like,

yeah, Gerard Mayo's our coach in waiting. That feels like an, that feels like it explains a lot from the last five years. Yeah. That you had a guy who was in the building on Belichick staff who was like, oh yeah, he's anointed and uh, I mean the wheels are falling off. Crafted the interview with the breakfast club. I don't know if we talked about this on Wednesday, but crafted the interview with the breakfast

club. He said that he was the one that fired Belichick before that. It had been basically, you know, said to the public that it was a mutual parting of ways. And that's what opened the floodgates for Belichick to go in on Kraft. And, and, you know, the first four weeks he didn't say much about the Patriots or negative. And then after Kraft said that is when Belichick said it on McAfee show, he went on Brady's podcast to show that it's not a him and Brady thing. So I think the wheels have completely fallen off I think Belichick's gonna keep you know, keep leaning on on on giving his honest opinion on the Patriots and

It's probably gonna get bad before it's gonna get worse before it gets better. So I lean towards 20-point blowup. Yeah, what? Did the Breakfast Club asked him about getting jerked off? I don't know. I didn't watch the full interview. I want to know that answer. I'm sure they did. They had to. I doubt it. Charlamagne definitely did. Based off the fact that they were saying everything on the roast of Brady. And once they mentioned that once, that was the only time someone got shut down.

Yeah, but you can't tell Charlamagne not to ask about the jack-off thing. No. I bet you they did. He would say no deal on the interview They definitely talked about it off-air Yeah, probably they probably yeah, we're like which favorite spots uh This is the first time since 2001 02 season that the Jets have been favored against the Patriots in consecutive games

That's pretty crazy. Yeah, so long. Ben's been down. It means you have to win this game. It's the most it might be the most must-win game of your life. It is the most must-win and for a regular team we would easily win this because the past two games we played the Patriots we've had I think seven plus sacks each time and now there's no David Andrews, but it's the Jets. So I have no idea realistically all this hype going into it as the Jets. We lose this game by like Greg's or like Greg's or line miss field goal. And then that's it. All this going into it. Yeah. All this. So much hype into this. Now I do have a stat. Yeah, this is the game of the week. I do have a stat in terms of the over under.

The under is 11 and 2 out of the last 13 times that the Jets have played against AFC East opponents and the under is 5 and 0 the last 5 times that the Jets and Patriots have played. I love the over. I just think the Patriots are an over team now. Because of Drake May? and their defense is terrible. Yeah. Like they flip to an over team and it's it's slowly catching up but it hasn't all the way caught up. We're going to find out if calling your team soft works though. True. That might be a variable in this. It's like they they just called the S word. Yeah. So they might go out there and be like, fuck that. we're hard. Drake Mays gonna give him a shot Hank You could win this game or lose

You sure yeah, I think so we could tie no you're not good. This is not a not a tiger No, we already have one tie this weekend. Yeah, um All right next game Falcons at bucks the bucks are in the creamsicle jerseys the bucks have lost everyone so They have no Godwin, no Mike Evans. That's not everyone, but it feels like everyone because those guys basically amount for all their catches. They have Bucky time. They're going to go full time Bucky.

Sterling Shepherd time? I don't know. I don't know who they're going to pass to. I think, I feel like Baker has played on teams that have been like utterly deserted of wide receivers in the past. So I feel like he will, it's not going to be super ugly for the bucks, but they've been a pretty good offense with their wide receivers playing. They're going to fall back to like middle of the road. Yeah. I, uh, this is, I mean, this is a huge game. This is a huge game for

the division. Uh, this is a huge game. These two teams, it does feel like our game, PFT, and this game, you guys could obviously still win your division, but that's going to be kind of the mix-up race for a wild card spot. So they're important impactful games. Yeah. So I would say that there are going to be three teams from the NFC North that get into the playoffs Correct and there could even there could be four Yes basically if the Bucks if sucks if someone runs away from your the NFC East the Eagles or commanders just like rip off a bunch of wins and the

Other team dies and then the Bucks die and it could feasibly be all 14. You know to be wild So Tampa they are one and four in the creamsicles when they wear those. It still looks cool. It does look cool, but it also, that's not great. That's not great. And not having Mike Evans for the creamsicles feels- Yeah, when you do a throwback, I mean, the jersey itself is going to be cool to look at. I like it when the Bucks wear the creamsicles but they're throwing back to like the worst era of football ever. Yeah. When the Bucks actually wore those weekend week out they were a very very bad football team with the exception of 1979. Yeah. But besides that it's like

we're doing a throwback to celebrate our worst years as a franchise. Yeah I think I lean the Falcons in this game but I also I don. This, I can't decide if this is one of those games where it's gonna be so easy, because it's like, hey, the Bucks have no offense, or everyone thinks that, and the Bucks, they're like, how'd they do that? Oh, they threw, you know, 15 screen passes to Bucky Irving.

Yeah, Bucky's gonna eat, and they're gonna fire that fucking cannon a few times, which is so funny that the NFL is cracking down on the gun celebrations Yeah, like you can't pull out a fake shotgun and blast a guy in the face five times after sacking him But then every time you score touchdown Raymond James Stadium just lights up like an armory Yeah, you can't you can't even flash your Patriots, too. Yeah, Patriots. That's right They actually have guns guns with guns in the end zone But if Drake may pulls out if he just shows a simulated gun in his waistband

Yeah, Roger Godel is gonna come at that ass What about the shooter Macabre probably can't do that. I don't think so. You can't even do a bow and arrow. So guns no guns Can't do it. What if you say it was a squirt gun? What if you pump it and you you demonstrate a super soaker? That could be a shotgun What if you what if you like Horn, when he pulled the cell phone out of the goal post, what if underneath the goal post you keep like a little orange cap and you put it on the top of your finger,

so it's clear that it's like a cap gun and it's not real? I think that could work too. I think that works. That's what they gotta do. Just save a little orange cap and just put it on right after you score. Yeah, I like that idea a lot. What if you line up your offensive lineman I feel like they've probably done this before but you throw a grenade, fake

throw it and then they all fall. grenades are fine. grenades are totally yeah grenades are good. But drones are fine to do a gun. Yeah, what if you do a drone? Yeah, what if Joe Horn pulled out that cell phone he dialed the number and he was simulating that there were pagers on all the opponent's belts that yeah. Or it's it's that pulls out the cell phone. He just shows the camera a video of like a Russian soldier getting drone killed as he gives up, which I somehow see five times a day. Yeah, that's it's insane. Isn't it? That's like the scariest thing ever. I do just like standing in the middle of the field. Just be like, Please don't kill me. And then the drone just the drugs like, Sorry, you're dead. Yeah, you're dead, buddy. Okay. Packers at Jaguars. Robert Salah has found a

temporary home. He is coaching the offense from a defensive perspective. I love that. And so he's on the sidelines there, which is like taking a picture of your ex's ex on Instagram and posting it just to get, I feel like that was directed at Aaron Rodgers. Yes. That's why Robert Salah is in Green Bay. Yes.

That's why probably Matt LaFleur was like, hey, come here, I know exactly what you went through. Yeah, we can just talk about it. Yeah, we can just talk shit together. So it's also a Doug Peterson kind of revenge game because he was a backup quarterback Yeah, Green Bay Packers for sure the Jaguars. I think you're gonna get lit up by Jordan Love You think so? Yeah, I kind of like the Jags this weekend Yeah, this is I

Am not to win over think it. Yeah, I'm not gonna overthink it. I'm not gonna overthink it I think the Packers are their offenses looked good. They're much better. It looks good. They're a much better team. It's in Jacksonville They're on a kind of winning streak The Jaguars. Yeah. Yeah, they've won one game one game. Yeah, they could make it a winning streak Yeah, they could make it a big winning streak. Okay Colts of Texans. I don't want to pick on Anthony Richardson, but I have to just share a stat. Anthony Richardson completion percentage this year is 48.5%. What do you think the second worst quarterback?

So that's last the NFL 48.5% of his passes are being completed Who's the second to second worst quarterback and what's their completion percentage to Sean? No Gardner no It's Jacobi Burset And his completion percentage was fifty eight point five percent. So the second worst is ten percent better than the worst in Anthony Richardson. And among players with 150 plus attempts in their first two seasons in the NFL, these are the lowest completion percentages over the last decade. Bryce Petty 53.1, Deshaun Kaiser 53.1, Anthony Richardson 53.5.

It's not good company to be in. No, Deshaun Kaiser and Bryce Pet It's not good company to be in. No, Sean Kaiser in Bryce Petty is not good. I feel like they're gonna just they're gonna run him until he gets hurt. I think that's the plan for the Colts. It's like we're not gonna tell him to slide. We're not gonna call plays to protect them. We're gonna let him do what he does the best, which is throw it deep and then sometimes run into people. Yeah. Yeah. Johnson Taylor will be

back to that will help. That's a big one. Yeah. The Texans are weird. The Texans are good, but their offense is not good. They don't feel like they're as dominant as they were in stretches last year, right? Yeah. No, their offense is hard to watch, especially

without Nico Collins. And then some of the weird stuff with time management at the end of games. Yeah. I know that everyone picked the Texans to go far in the postseason this year, but I haven't seen them stand out. I mean, their, their record is very good, but I haven't seen them stand out as being like, this is an incredible team. That's all put together. Agreed. Agreed. Uh, okay. Next game. I'm going to probably end up. Oh,

they got Devin white though. They got Devin white, Devin white equals legend. The Colts also got to Forrest Buckner back, which should, that's his practice window open. I don't know if he's going to play, but that should be huge for the Colts. Yeah. Saints at Chargers. Alvin Camara is playing with a broken hand. And also he got a new contract, which is perfectly Saints. That's really good. So I mean, the Saints are your choices right now. If you're in the Saints front office, it's like, keep restructuring the guys that you have and giving them like longer terms on their contract and keep kicking the can down the road, which has worked for them in the past. But the difference is right now, those guys are already old. Yeah. And so now you're just extending them and making your team older in like two years. Yeah, they're the I think the move they made with with

Camara is it saved them $18 million. Yeah. Which I don't really understand how that works. They signed them to do a new contract, but they saved money doing it. But yeah, that's, I think that's their only solution now is just keep doing new contracts to save money and push it down on your current players. So what the saints might end up doing is just in the next like 10 years have the exact same roster and they're a team of 45 year old guys and they lose every game, but you're not in cap. Hell. Right? Yeah, that's how they slowly climb out of cap Hell which is very relatable. Yeah, which is like I'll just deal with this problem in two years

Yeah, two years might not even happen. The Chargers have to win this game. They have to win this game Yeah, they have to win this game. I do think they will win this game I think they can run the ball Saints defense is very very bad. They're worst in the league in terms of yards per carry against 5.4 yards per carry. So I feel like the chargers are going to be just be like, we're going to smash this down your throat. But at least the Saints, it does feel like the Saints will be a little bit, they'll look better than they did last Thursday because they're going to get a lot of a back. They got some offensive lineman back. I just wanted to be a better the saints are such a bummer to watch. Be a little competitive. Yeah. Spencer rattler had some very, some of the most hilarious turnover plays last week. Yeah. I hope we

get more of those. Um, the chargers, they have not scored an offensive touchdown in the second half since week one week. one was the only time they did that. They need a wide receiver. They need somebody that can catch the ball. They need ball catchers. Yeah. Bad, bad. Bills at Seahawks. D.K. Metcalf, if he doesn't play, I like the Bills.

I would guess that he's not going to play. He's out. He is officially out. It's a grade one MCL. That sounds bad. That does sound bad. I'm going to guess that he's not playing. Yeah. I know it's out. He is. Officially out. It's a grade one MCL. That sounds bad. That does sound bad. I'm going to guess that he's not playing. I know, it's questionable.

We gotta have DK back on sometime. I'll say it and we could even tweet this at him. I think DK uses the cart too much. Well, it's because he did it that one time when he had to shit. Yeah. Every time he goes on the cart is like season ending injury. Yeah. That's what it feels like. So when you see someone it's, I understand DK, you don't want to walk and you want to get a ride, but you make everyone who's a Seahawks

fan who's a fan of you, which I, we include everyone in this room, uh, very nervous whenever you get in the car. Yeah. I think that it really does go back to the time where he used it when he didn't need to use it. Yeah. When, unless he had already shit his pants. Right. If there was like a brown stain, then I understand that. Or you could just wrap a towel around your waist and duck waddle to the bathroom.

That would have been fine too. But since then, it's the boy who cried wolf with the cart. I think in this case, he's probably out. He's week to week, grade one MCL, spring. I'm going to guess that he's not playing. He's missing the next two practices, then we'll have a spring MCL evaluated on Friday he also could be a guy who just regenerates he's in that good of shape if you if you look at DK Metcalf where it's like he can just sit and focus

really hard on his knee on Friday afternoon be like okay I'm better not yeah bobo time bobo bobo J. bobo bobo bobo. JSN. Bobo. Yeah, I, this is gonna be fun game. This is a very fun game in the afternoon. Yeah, I'm excited for it. Panthers and Broncos Bryce Young. He's back baby back. Andy Dalton got into a car accident, hurt his thumb. Yeah, kind of a weird injury to have in a car accident. But I'm glad that that's all that it was. But, uh, this is bad. This is bad for the Panthers for, for two reasons. One,

Bryce Young's going to play quarterback for you. And two, whatever trade value you think you have for Bryce Young is now up in the air because he could get injured or it just going to remind everybody how bad Bryce Young is. Right. So the longer you go without having to watch Bryce Young, like NFL GMs, they're just like us. If you spend two months and you haven't seen Bryce Young play football, you're like, maybe that guy's not that bad.

But now you're gonna be reminded about how bad he is. Yeah, and it's gonna be bad because, according to Sports Info Solutions, Panthers are the worst team versus the Blitz and the Broncos Blitz the second most in the NFL. And also the Panthers have the 31st ranked rushing defense in terms of DVOA. So it's going to be the Broncos running the ball

down their throat and then blitzing the fuck out of them. I know this is a big line. I don't know how you could possibly take the Panthers. They're irredeemable. I don't know either. They're irredeemable. I think it could possibly take the Panthers. They're irredeemable. I don't know either. They're irredeemable. I think it was nine and a half points. Yeah, irredeemable.

Yeah, I still like the Broncos. Yeah. I think you could probably make it 13 and a half. The defense last week was just so, so bad. So bad. And their offense, which had been at times not as bad as their defense, was as bad, if not worse, than their defense was.

Yes, yes. And what I respect about them, in the game against the commanders, you're getting the shit kicked out of you by Marcus Mariota and starting in like the second quarter, you just start running the football. Yeah. And you're like, we're just going to, we're going to make this game in this as fast as we can running clock. Yeah. Okay. Chiefs wrapping up. We got a couple more chiefs at Raiders. I wanted to take the Raiders, but then I remembered Do you guys remember over the summer training camp when?

the Raiders had that video of Kermit the Frog dresses Patrick Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes quote after that Was stuff like that happens. It will get handled when it gets handled. That feels like it's going to get handled. This is, but the Raiders are also a team that will not let Patrick Mahomes tip toe along the sidelines and let up. True. They're going to, they're going to finish those plays. I do agree though. That was, that was a crazy move for the Raiders to crazy crazy with like a new coaching

staff coming in your quarterbacks or Gardner Minshew and AOC. Why, why are you doing that? I guess the one thing you can say about the Raiders is they can lean into their team identity being we're the one team that will beat the fuck out of Patrick Mahomes. That's really all they have going for them because I mean they are a weird team. They beat the Ravens and they lost to the Panthers. Oh, I have it for you.

That's how strange the Raiders are. You ready for this? So this is from Josh Duboe AP. The Raiders are the last team to beat the Chiefs. Yeah. Christmas 2023. The last team to beat the Ravens week two. The only team to lose to the 2024 Panthers week three. And the only team to lose a team to a team coach by Jeff Saturday week 10 2022. Yeah, there's such a weird, they're the weirdest team. They're so weird. I mean, looking back at that Ravens win, it's like, what the fuck happened in that fourth quarter? Yeah.

It was crazy. Uh, but it's, I think that was actually good for the Ravens to see that happen to them. Yeah. Deandre Hopkins is going to be good for the chiefs. I know that he has not been great this year. Uh, but it doesn't matter. He's still got the hands. He's still got the hands and it doesn't really matter. It's just like, this is where the Chiefs are at. They're gonna add him. He's gonna be great.

He's not like, he doesn't have the explosion that he used to have, you know, beating people deep, but it doesn't matter. You have Xavier Worthy on the outside. DeAndre Hopkins can just catch everything. He will catch everything. He's still very good. I think we predicted that DeAndre Hopkins would be on the Chiefs in like week two.

It's gonna work. It's like this is, it's his destiny to get just like stay in shape by playing on the Titans. Yeah, you're still practicing a football and catching balls. You're not really competing that much, but you are going to be a Chief and you're going to win the Super Bowl with the Chiefs. Yes, by the way, Patrick Holmes has the most interceptions of any QB in the NFL since the start of last season. That's pretty crazy. That is well. Twenty two Sam Howell, twenty one Jordan Love, nineteen Jalen Hurts, nineteen. Do you know what's going on with Max Crosby? Yeah. Well, he's

like maybe getting traded. He said, yeah, he might get traded. And then he said, I'm a Raider. Let me say that. Let me make this pretty fucking clear. I am a Raider. I want to be a Raider. And his name keeps getting brought up. And they were doing an interview with him the other day. And they said, like, what if Antonio Pierce called you guys soft?

And he's kind of like mumbled through it. And then he was like, wait, did he call us soft? And the interviewer was like, yeah, he called you guys soft. And then his reaction, his quote was, I would have a major issue if I was a player Especially another man calling you soft. I mean those are fighting words Maybe it worked by Antonio Pierce. Yeah, like if your reaction is that's fighting words Maybe that's the right word to say to you to me. Yeah, I want to fight Yeah, I don't know. I mean Max Crosby if he gets traded that would be

someone would get Really really good meme just saying that he backtracked that oh he backtracked Yeah, it was on a Jim Gray's podcast. Okay at afterwards Jim Gray again. We've said this before How the fuck does that guy just have all these like shows with like how does he have a show with Tom Brady? He's just a secret commissioner. They're just boys But Jim Gray was on that Jim Gray hasn't done anything in like 20 years. He's just he still gets like the biggest Did he do the decision? Yeah, I feel like it's crazy like Jim Gray talking about on the podcast

He was the one that interviewed Tyson like the yeah back is broken. Yeah, Jim Gray might be secretly super super wealthy did you guys know this is like Jim Rome did you know that Joe Buck has been calling NFL games since 1994 no isn't that crazy that one of the first Fox guys so I saw a clip it was the 30th anniversary of the longest punt return in NFL history 103 103 yards. Because the rule used to not be if it goes in the end zone, it's not immediately dead. So it was a Saints-Oilers game I want to say. And the ball hit the back, basically the back part of the end zone and then bounced forward. And the Oilers guy just picked it up and ran it. So he picked it up in the end zone and ran it. And I was listening was like is this Joe Buck and it was Joe Buck from 1994 and that's a play that will never be

That record won't be broken. No, it's the way that the correct is written. Yeah, could you can you play it? I know we can't well know you could play it the audio of it Say this again, I was looking at Jim Gray everything Jim Gray It's crazy thing and it's it's nuts and he's got like I don't know what his personality is Say this again, I was looking at everything Jim Gray has done. Jim Gray is just weird. He's done insane things. It's crazy. It's nuts. And he's got like, I don't know what his personality is.

He's just Jim Gray. It was the longest punt return in NFL history. 1994 Saints-Oilers. I was shocked. I mean, I felt a little bad that I didn't know that fact, but when I heard it, it I was like is this Jack buck? How could this be Jack buck? No, it's Joe buck. Let's see Is this it? Yeah, Tommy Barnhart So a big stop on third down and now Barnhart is that crazy yeah Isn't that crazy? Yeah.

1994. How old was he? Like 25. Look at this play. Oh, going to be a touchdown. That is one of the most unbelievable plays I've ever seen. They never downed the ball. It was sitting in the end zone and the Rams picked it up and scored. Buck kind of got owned on that play call, didn't he? Yeah. Like the analyst just took over for him. Yeah, he took over and played that play. I think Joe was just probably confused. Probably pissing. Yeah. Pissing in the beer bottle. It's crazy, though.

25 years old, calling NFL games. Very cool. Nuts. Also, shout out Jake, who's going to be doing some college basketball stuff, right? Yes. Very cool, Jake. Feesweek.

CBS, Feesweek. I love Feesweek so much. I love Feesweek so much. Bears and Commanders. The game. Is he going to play? I reported on Monday that he was gonna play. So he's guaranteed play. So what can people do if he doesn't play? I stand to you. I stand by my reporting. So if he doesn't play, what do you what can people do? There could be a material change. But I stand by my reporting. He has to play. He

has to play right? You can find me. You can find me. I don't think he's playing. Yeah. Why? I don't think he's playing either. Why not? I just think it's like, it's just our luck. But he knows how much this game means to us. I don't know if he does. He does. Because he would have already been practicing. He's doing a little rope a dope. The ribs are fine. Look, your ribs a long way from your heart. That's actually not that true. No, very close. They're very close. They actually protect your heart. But he's going to play. Yes, Max. I have a question. Yeah, Max. Did you say anything? I knew this. I forgot. I forgot that

Max was there. Did you say anything at the out of order live show last night? I did not. I sounds like he did. What do you say? Comedy show. Was he talking? It was a comedy show. Is like he did Comedy show was he talking shit? Is he afraid comedy she afraid to repeat it on the podcast as big cat a studio gangster This is maybe why I texted you guys and asked if you were coming to the show and then I forgot max was there Remember I texted you guys. I went up Nick our good friend Nick. I knew he's gonna do this to me I thought of it as I was walking out, I was like, fuck, Max was there. As I was walking, or sorry,

Nick was saying some unkind things to Caleb Williams. I was emceeing, so fights went first, introduced fights, introduced Nick, Nick said some unkind things to Caleb Williams, I went up and I was like, hey guys, Caleb Williams is so fucking good. He's gonna change all of our lives. And then I might've said, because PFT's not here, I think Caleb Williams is way better good like he's gonna change all of our lives and then I might have said because PFT is not here Yeah, I think he was way better than Jim Daniels, but that was off. That was fair. I'm just curious off air. Yeah

Delete this part I'm declaring this is off air to how many how many rookie of the week says killed? I don't listen I didn't I I just said how many said no I said can we look that up? Yeah rookie of the week is an award I do not really I'm just curious off air. I just I had to say what I thought Well, we'll find out won't we yeah, I don't care about rookie of the weeks how many touchdowns No, I'm saying we'll find out how we touch on me overall touchdowns to scale of have I think more than jayden daniels We played against the Jaguars. Oh, you played against the Panthers. Oh, he got hurt because he can't stay in the game.

No, he didn't get any touchdowns in that game. Yeah, because he got hurt. So actually, Caleb's played more games than Jayden. Five? The best ability is availability. Well, he's also a- How many? How many is more?

Wait, we're counting. One, two, three. He only has three? I thought he had more than that. Oh, four, five. Does he have five rookie of the weeks? I have a question. How has-

It's pretty good. How has Caleb Williams played more games than Jayden Daniels when the commanders haven't had a bye? Oh, we did last week against the- So they played the exact same amount of games. Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. Hmm.

But Jayden's different. That's fine. Jayden's different. I. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah about that. Hmm, but Jade is different That's fine. Jane. I love my guy. Jaden's different Monday night I also knew Max is in the crowd and I knew he was gonna bring this up. What's uh, what's kill? What is good for the show scale? What's his record in primetime? Uh, I O and one I don't care. These are these are I I don't give a fuck about rookie of the week I don't give a fuck about record in primetime. I give a fuck about how I feel I think kale Williams is really good record in primetime is pretty important Games you're gonna make a playoff. That's a one game sample size you had we actually don't have a lot of prime time

Who did you bet on to be MVP this year? Uh, I didn't actually make the bet because MVP this year? I didn't actually make the bet because remember he went from 22 to 1 to 10 to 1 to then 18 to 1 and they lost and I was like well I missed that. Alright so it was Joe Burrow though right? I was saying at the time that if you want if you thought the Bengals could beat the Ravens you should bet on Joe Burrow to be MVP they didn't beat the Ravens. But you've been saying he's been playing at an MVP level. He was, yeah. So when Jaden, when he beat him in his own house.

Does Jaden Daniels play against Joe Burrow? He did. He played against Joe Burrow was playing cornerback against Jaden Daniels. He outscored Joe Burrow. The 24th defense in the league. Well, we didn't really have a defense out there and the Bengals didn't really have a defense out there, but Jaden had more points than Joe Burrow. Right. But Joe, Joe, Joe Burrow was

playing defense against Jayden Daniels. Uh, basically. Yeah. He could have, if, if, if Joe Burrow had scored more points than Jayden, he kind of playing. I hope, I hope, I hope Jayden Daniels plays. I hope he's not a pussy about it. I hope he, I hope he plays too. He better. You said he was going to play. I reported. I didn't say I reported the Jaden Daniels, which is more than saying it. I want him to play so it's a tattoo bet Yeah, if Jaden plays no, I think no matter what So when we talked about like with the most hilarious outcome in terms of last year was the worst game ever in terms of ratings For the podcast which is why we want if you lose a Marcus Marriott. You need to get like a lay That's what I'm saying. If you, you should get, no, you should get

the, uh, the Polynesian like shoulder tattoo. No, I choose. I, if I lose, I'm going to choose my own tattoo, but I'll honor it with or without Jayden Daniels. If you, if you want it, it's your cause you're the one who got the tattoo last year because the bears beat the commander. So I fuck out of them. I will, uh, whatever the the If you want to call it off for Marcus Marriott, I'm happy to do that. I know I don't care I'm not gonna call it off. Okay, because I believe in my guys Okay, I believe in my guys now you don't dick buck has passed away like right before the game last year Mike which is pretty old that felt oh my god. I didn't think about Mike dick. I did. Yeah, okay the bets the bets off If Mike if no, no, no, no, yeah, no, that was my one stipulated

If he passes away within one hour of kickoff. All right one hour Like sunday morning, whatever it's between 10 and 12 or no, no, no His kickoff is is 3 25 central time. He's if he passes out or if he passes away during the early slate of games, second half, that's like an hour and a half, two hour window, second quarter counts under the two minute warning. There has to be at least one game over the two minute. Okay. Deal. Deal. Then the bets off, but every game that it starts when every game is, uh, under the two minute warning. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, last year I bet on Sam Howe. Yeah, there's one.

I will honor the bet with Marcus Mariota. The Bears were 1-0 and 4, I believe, at the time. 1 and 3? Bad. It was a bad game. You guys played really well. But yeah, me and Big Cat will have marks. I'll have a tapestry.

That's what they used to do back in medieval times to like Commemorate everything that happened in their history. It's like oh, here's a here's a painting of us losing this one battle Yeah, that's what our body told the story That's what our bodies are story of this rivalry that everyone talks about the famous Bears commanders rivalry Yeah, are you feeling good? I think I think it's hard to judge this game because we just don't know if he's playing. I want you to be happy big guy. And I, I want Caleb Williams to be a good quarterback, but to say that he's had

a better year. That's not what I said. That's not what I said. Hold on, hold on, hold on. That is not what I said. It's not what I said. You're going to be good. That's not what I said. You you're changing. And that makes me think that you're scared that you're saying you're changing the words to this year That's not what I said. I did not say kale Williams played better than Jayden Daniels this year That is unequivocally not what I said. What did you say? I said I think kale Williams is better than Jayden Daniels going forward But how can you say that when Jayden because I clearly a better player because that's just what I think going forward I think if you're what that's not that's not a crazy thing to say you're saying I I hope that one day K

No, we better I think that G. Caleb Williams going forward is going to be the better quarterback I did not say anything about this year is so you could do the rookie of the weeks But that is a relevant to me because I'm talking about the future. You're talking about what hasn't happened yet I'm talking about the future. Yeah about what you what you hope is gonna happen. What do we do on this show? Talk about what hasn't happened. I like the whole preview. There's one thing about me. I like to live in reality Yeah, Jayden Max is trying to change what I said. I never I never Ft is the one who's your you want to go with the rookie the week? I wasn't there I don't know what you said. No, I never I I never said that. I never said he's better than him this year.

No, he just said that. I think he's a better quarterback. He's going to be a better quarterback. Yeah. I think he's going to be a better quarterback. Did he say going to be? I think I said going to be better because I said he's going to be awesome. He's going to be, he's going to change our lives. He's going to be a better quarterback. There's tapes. We could check. Yeah, we could check the tapes going to be a better quarterback. There's tapes. We could check. Yeah, we could check the tapes going to be as different that it's different than is better. I did not say it. I didn't talk about this year. I said I was talking future. I was saying this is going to change our lives. Put a pull out. I could actually put it. I could text someone and try and get the actual clip. So if I said I don't think I said this year But my whole point was that he's going to be better because that's what I've been saying the whole time

Is that I I'm very confident in kale Williams. I think he's gonna be a very good quarterback. I think that Jayden Daniels is Different he is awesome How I love so you think Jayden Daniels is like that much better than kale Williams and everything because I also I think I I don't think Jim. I Jayne Daniels is very, very good. I just think I like Cale Williams more going forward, but you think Jayne Daniels is gonna be like the best quarterback ever? I think he's gonna be, if he stays healthy,

I think Jayne Daniels is gonna be the best quarterback in the history of the Redskins or commanders. I think he's gonna be the best quarterback in the NFC. He might already be the best quarterback in the NFC. What about like all time? Probably top two. All time. No, that's, that's too far for me to project, but probably top five. Okay. Yeah. I don't, I, I think Caleb Williams is gonna have a really strong career in winning super bowl. That's all I'll say. Just one. I wouldn't doubt that. I'm going to say one. Yeah. I'm not, I mean, I don't, I'm not gonna have a really strong career and win a Super Bowl. That's all I'll say just one. I want to say one Yeah, I'm not I mean, I don't I'm not gonna say he's top 10 top five

I was me that was mean Hank. Yes with the Bears I'm not gonna say he's top 10 top 5 any of this stuff cuz it's still too early But I I'm very confident in what I've seen in the progression that he's made. I Think it'll be good for the league Yeah, tattoo bats every year. It'll be good for the league. Yeah, tattoo bats every year. It'll be good for the schedule every year. Every year. All right, last game.

Cowboys at Niners. Let's get that footage. Yeah, that's fine. I wanna see the footage. I knew Max was there. I knew he was gonna bring this up. You gotta be, you think I'm an idiot? Max was, I saw him before the show.

He came in and said hello to me. I don't think I said this year, but my and if it's this year, no, Jaden Daniels played better than Caleb Williams so far. Caleb Williams, I have I think about his future higher. Hank, who do you think's better? Jaden Daniels? He's played better this so far. I think Caleb Williams is better. Thank you, Max. I think that's fair. I think it's fair to say that that so far Jaden Daniels has played better. But he's also you think that your ceiling is is higher. Yes. And I also think that's fair to say that so far, Jayden Daniels has played better,

but you think that your ceiling is higher. Yes, and I also think that Kale Williams gets criticized for playing bad defenses, and Jayden Daniels has also played bad defenses. It's true. Yeah. I just want both to play Sunday. Yeah, I do too.

Then I can decide. Very badly, very badly. Mm-hmm. Are you guys gonna compliment my jersey? I did, that was the first thing I going to compliment my jersey or? I did. That was the first thing I said. I'm sorry. Great jerseys.

McCaffrey. It's a Luke McCaffrey Salute to Service Arctic camo jersey. Hell yes. Shipped directly from China. I love the fact that China is making our pro American military jerseys. That is also this is just a knockoff and I feel like I'm the only person in the world that owns it, but fuck it. We ball.

Nice. Where'd Max go probably to retrieve the footage footage or bathroom I did say I do remember saying oh because we don't have any no one can take video of this and then I like looked at the camera yeah I knew the camera was there also the rookie of the week thing is hilarious because there are two weeks that you could definitely say Caleb deserved to win don't want it those two weeks don't want it want to stay hungry don't want it. Okay breaking moves Max has got the video from Laugh Factory. I'm very interested to see this. So according to Big Cat he said that

Caleb Williams is Going to be better than Jaden Daniels. Or he might have said he's better, but I didn't say he's playing better right now or he's had a better games this year. Have you seen this? I have not. I have not either.

I did live it, but I don't remember anything that happens ever because my brain's turning to mush and I don't sleep. I've been trying to stay reserved with what I'm about to say, because we're in a place where we can't have cameras and people aren't recording. I knew the camera was recording me.

I was saying to you guys, Kale Williams is so fucking good. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! He's been the team's all of our lives.

I honestly think that we're all going to become winners. And I want to say one other thing, because I don't think PFT is here. He's so much better than Jayden Daniels. He's so much better than Jayden Daniels. I have no problem with that. I mean, why can't I say that? Wait, wait, wait. I want to hear the rest of it. I won't say it to his face. I'm going to wait.

I'm going to play some long games. But he's so fucking good. How are you doing the cameras for everywhere. Yeah, I have no problem with what I said. Um, you, I have one problem with what you said that he's so much better than Jane Daniels. I vehemently disagree. I think anybody that's watched the games this season and I'm a big Caleb Williams fan. I've been very polite myself to fake it. I've been, I've been rooting for the guy. I want him to be a great quarterback. I think you have to be insane to say that Caleb Williams has been a better quarter. I didn't say he's been a better quarterback right now. So much better. I didn't say he's a better quarterback. He's been a better quarterback. I said he's so much better. I think we're splitting hairs. No,

I have not. I didn't say Caleb Williams played wait so much better big cats backed into a corner. No, I'm not you you have talked reckless about Jaden Daniels I have been very reserved Caleb Williams has played better every week and people wanted this to happen for this week They wanted us to to tit to finally take the gloves off. Max was just so he was so happy He's like we we needed this. We need this. I've been reckless about Jay and Daniels because I'm looking at the hardware and he's got five rookie of the week. For me to say that I think my quarterback is, is so much better. You have said some

shit that is like crazy. No, I said Superbowl window. You just said he's going to be one of the top two quarterbacks of all time. I said top five. You started with top two. I think I said not saying top. Maybe I said I feel like I've been very like reserved and I still think that Kayla's got there's gonna be some bumps in the path this season for Kayla Williams. He's gonna have some bad games. We got a tough schedule. I'm just talking. I'm looking forward.

I think what I've seen forward, he's gonna be awesome. I think right now as it stands, we both have our lines. Yeah. I mean, this is what we always thought. So it's not it's not like a secret. Yeah, I did have Jayden as as number one on my big board before the draft. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted him. I listen. There's an update, by the way, about Jayden Daniels from Adam Schafter. Okay, so he tweeted out earlier today, Washington plans to attempt to try to practice jaden daniels on Friday. Okay, so we plan to attempt we plan to attempt to sound great, plan to attempt to try to practice jaden on Friday doesn't sound great. I still think he's gonna play

the plan to attempt to try to practice we plan to attempt to try. That's a great update from Schefter. Are you mad at me that I think my quarterbacks better than yours? No, no, I just I would have rather had this conversation on the podcast. I knew I mean, there's, it's sad that we're having it. It's sad that we're having it. It's sad that I had to come after a video where you said I'll say this because PFT is not here. Well, you don't think there was three cameras pointing at my face and Max was in the crowd. I saw Max before the show. Listen, we just might have, and I knew he was sitting right there. We might've just reached Supreme

debate. Yeah, that was Supreme debate. I listen, people have been waiting for me to say it because I've been taking a lot of shit. I get it. You know, the Bengals game, obviously I was, my mentions were just holy shit. Your guy stinks. Jaden Daniels is awesome. I think Jaden Daniels is awesome. I think Kale Williams is super duper awesome. And I think Jaden Daniels is awesome. I think Jaden Daniels is awesome. I think Caleb Williams is super duper awesome. And I think Jaden Daniels is like absolutely the best quarterback that I've ever watched in my entire life. He's the top two quarterback of all time. Oh, he might be. He might. When it all is said and done, we're both confident in our

guys. Yeah. I just want Caleb Williams to keep getting better. And like I said, it's his rookie season. There's going to be some bumps in the road. I know that there's, I think we play the Vikings on Monday night football. I already have that circled as a game that everyone's gonna shit on me. I have it just in my mind of like,

that's gonna suck for me, but I don't care. The nice thing is right now, I don't have any more prime time games to have to worry about. All right, I guess the Eagles. Yeah, there's the Eagles on Thursday night. That will be a big game. We're gonna stream that game.

Be a big game. You know what? The real perverts out there, your it's actually just memes. It's actually just no Max loves the Max is so happy in a big pervert right now. Max is so good promo for the. Yeah. And for. Yeah. Absolutely. People wanted this. They want to sit here and be like, Oh, I hope we have a good game. Hope you have a good game. Hope we have a good game. We have a good game back and forth. No I know. I know what this means. Means said to ask him if it's a must win or can't lose. I think you care more about the quarterback play. No no no no. The Bears because of the Bears schedule I've already called it a must win. The Bear. This stretch has been nothing but must wins. The Panthers game is a must

win. The Jaguars games must win. This is a must win. They I've said it a million times, but all bears fans listening right now know it starting in week 10, we have the most difficult schedule possible and it's going to be fucking torture and Caleb was going to have games. He looks bad. We must win these games. I think must win them. Like we knew going into the season when you looked at the schedule, it's like if we don't start the season six and three or seven and two we have no chance of the playoffs. I think this is a must play for Jayden. Yeah I want him to play. I don't think it's a I'll be so. I'm not going to get into Max's little must win can't lose because at the end of the day those those don't mean anything and I've figured that

out Max when you asked me that. But I think Jayden must play this weekend. I also remember when he said that I'll say this PFD I did. I went on a one on Sylvie. You're not going to remember that at all. You're going to fall right back into that trap. I went on waddle and so they do every Wednesday and those are my guys and they were kind of making fun of me because I said that I wanted jaden daniels to play and they were like what like Don't we want the Pete the? Path of least resistance. I was like no no I want jaden did I genuinely want jaden daniels to play I Want to see this so do I the best for this show yep? It's a hundred percent the best for this show and I want to see it happen listen

I'll be bummed out if it doesn't listen am I overcompensating because of all my doubt via watching so much bad quarterback play my entire life as a commander's Redskins football team fan? 100% absolutely. But do I also think that Jaden is, I'd say top two in the NFC right now? Yes. I think he is. The only time I thought your recklessness was a little crazy was when you genuinely laughed at Max and it was Very similar to when Billy had like two good weeks for the Jets and he was like you guys don't understand and I was like Pft, we we're still far away from The finish line here

so the reason I laughed at max was actually because Max had just gotten done saying the Eagles season is completely over and then he said Eagles to win the Super Bowl Yeah, that's why that was like the 10th team pick though. Yeah. At that point, like you have, but it was a genuine laugh. Yeah. Yeah. And you were kind of looking at him like you sad sack of shit. You don't know what it's like. No, I'm not there yet. No, I'm not there yet. No, no, I, I would never say that. Like I feel bad for max because the Eagles I've said this, they have a a top to bottom much better roster than the commanders do like no don't do this now it's true no don't take back the lab do this now okay the lab I think it's true though the laugh is the the true

reaction I'm not I'm not gonna answer that question. Hank what's learning by me. Anything I'd need Jane Dennis play. Okay. Yeah, I'll do this podcast needs change in this way. I'll be very bummed out if it happens on Sunday morning. He plans to attempt to try to practice to play. Wait, didn't you say you do something if he doesn't play? I think there was discussion of me getting fined for the Oh, yeah, we're gonna find you. Yes. No, we're finding you. Yeah, because we are finding you Sunday. I was like, he's playing. Yeah, we're finding you hundred bucks a person. No hundred bucks next

Next lottery ball winner gets it. Okay. Yeah, put a free parking. Yeah free parking in the lottery ball. That's good We should just do fines for that. We should have a free parking. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we should yeah Yeah, we should have a jar for it memes will never get it I a jar for it. Memes will never get it. I'll never get it. No, you're going to get it. Memes is never gonna get it. All right. Well, that was the breaking moves back to regular scheduled programming. All right. Last game Cowboys at Niners. This is just the injury bowl. Jennings, Deebo, Ayuk all out or Deebo probably out. Kittle maybe out McCaffrey Hank He's out. Okay

And yeah, I don't know all I have for this is Jerry Jones is doing weird shit again He said that Mike McCarthy's designing bad plays and bad concepts on offense saying that he's got bad plays It's such a mean funny thing to yeah And then also said Derek Henry wasn't a fit for their offense. And then I don't know if you guys saw the story on ESPN where it was basically a deep dive into the fact that the Cowboys facility does tours every single day that just basically has the players like zoo animals.

Yeah, you get to walk through and just see the players at work. And then the players are just like, oh, there's people behind glass, like tapping on it and taking pictures. They're tapping on the glass when you're like trying to get a workout. Yeah, it's insane. But that's Jerry Jones. Yeah, Jerry Jones is like, Yeah, go go go look at my boys out there. That's that one that one boy. He's got a big penis. Yeah, try to see that. Yeah. Um, there's a very funny tweet speaking the the 49ers. This is from Matt Ford. He pointed out after after Debo Samuel had pneumonia and he was sent to the hospital Matt Ford said the 49ers healthiest receiver right now was shot in the chest two months ago. Yeah, which is true That's true. And it's crazy. Keep your soul and and so he played last weekend and That's it's insane the the bad injury luck that the 49ers have had this season. I I Don't think that things are gonna turn around for the 49ers have had this season.

I don't think that things are going to turn around for the Niners. No I like the Cowboys in this game. I feel like, yeah, could be a good week for the Cowboys. Although Brandon Aubrey missed practice because he's doing jury duty. Which is a very strange reason. Back in the day, if you were missing practice for court on the Cowboys, you were having a lot more fun. Yeah.

Yeah. That's very true. You weren't on that side of the box. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, I like the Cowboys Mike McCarthy off the by is pretty good, too Yeah, he is as he is he is 12 and 5 all time after by and he's 3 and 1 as the Cowboys coach Okay. Okay. Let's do picks. Let's start with our Touchdown parlay that we hit so every day is game day DraftKings Sportsbooks now through the end of the year. It's extra special. All customers will get a special daily promo every single day from profit boosts, odd boosts, no sweat boosts or bets and more. There's something for everyone. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook app now use code TAKE. That's code TAKE and take advantage of special

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do it again. We hit it again. I like Joe mixin. Joe mixin. I like that pick too. Good job. That's a good pick. Great pick. I will do JK Dobbins. Should I go running back or wider Sheaver? Do whatever you feel, buddy. Follow your heart. A Adams. Okay, against the Patriots, the best speech of all time. The realest speech of all time. Best speech of all time. Patriots D is not good. If there was going to be like, let's get on the right page.

It'll be this. Yeah. memes. What do you think? I love it. Three touchdown game. Three for Devante? Yeah. Three touchdown. Two plus TD is plus 650. All right. Three plus TD is this 30 to one. What is, what's the standings for our, so we'll have the Draft Kings in Draft King Sportsbook. We'll have the TD Parlay. We're 1 and 0 in our last one. What are the standings for the season-long competition? I'm in last. Oh, no. The season-long competition, Big Cat, 8 and 6, myself 8 and 6,

PFT and Hank, 6 and 8, Max, 4, 9 and 1. Max PFT went 0 and 2 last week. The rest of us 1 and 1. 4, 9 and 1, Max. Yeah, no. I haven't got a total right once all year. and one max pft went oh and two last week the rest of us won one for nine and one max yeah now i haven't got a total right once all year haven't got one total right and you've been taking unders i've been going i've been i was doing mostly unders i've last week i didn't over to try and combat all of my bad unders i've been terrible in your own head yep all over my own head Terrible. In your own head.

Yep, all over my own head. Okay, who's up first? Mr. Commenter. I will take the Denver Broncos minus nine and a half at home against the Carolina Panthers. Okay, I will take the Miami Dolphins minus three and a half at home against the Arizona Cardinals I will take the Kansas City Chiefs minus nine and a half against the Raiders I know the Chiefs don't have a great record I might be making this up do they not have

a good yeah and they have a big spread big spreads but the boys that's uh yeah yeah Patrick Mahomes business come with the frog yeah we're gonna handle it when we handle it. I'm gonna take the bills minus three I Am going to take the Browns plus eight and a half hmm I like that I like that pick a lot max and Jets Patriots over 41 I wanted that one fuck Sunday night football under 46 an a half part of my take Bull let's let's have some fun over 43 and a half in the Bears commanders like that okay

I'll do over 40 and a half Saints Chargers I'm gonna go under 41 Jets Patriots three touchdowns for Devante No scores for the Patriots. Should we do three touchdowns in the TV for that'd be wild. That would be wild Okay Those were all of our picks Let's do fantasy fuck boys, and then we'll get to an awesome interview with John Gruden Fantasy fuck boys brought to you by our friends at body armor Segments brought to you by body armor sports water the alkaline water that provides real hydration with electrolytes for taste Everybody's always drinking it around the office the sports drink the zero sugar and even the flash IV after a long weekend

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LeBron on the way in you yet left him hanging you got your picture you never you didn't even tap up LeBron on the way in, you left him hanging. You got your picture, you never playing again bud. Would have been great though if you had stepped in, knocked down 1-3 and then the crowd goes nuts, you check yourself out. Get ready to learn, pine buddy. I saw a stat, he had a better plus minus than his dad though. Oh shit, he almost had that, he had one offensive rebound I think.

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This week I'm starting Eli Manning. Eli Manning is starting for me. He's on the short list of 50 guys for the Hall of Fame. Eli's getting closer to the Hall of Fame. I just want to see the bust that they designed of Eli Manning. He's got to have the mouth open. He's got to have the hair all messed up. We need the Manning face Why catch her I'm sitting Cardi B. I'm not talking about tank Bigsby Cartavious Bigsby I'm talking about the singer Cardi B She's being investigated by the SEC for crypto fraud. Oh shit thoughts and prayers And then my thought that was gonna be the one that made us rich.

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All right. My what's up you fuckers? My name's Frankie Roast Beef. My stardom is Bryce Maximus James. Cause guess what? He's gonna be in the NBA at some point. I'm gonna call my shot right now. Good for him. Feels like he's gonna get drafted and get in the NBA. I don't know, I just got a feeling about this one.

The kids earned it. My sitem is Zach Eady. He fouled out in 15 minutes. That's tough So everyone who said everyone in the boo watch Zach Eady and the big tenets that they fucking don't call fouls We went one game the NBA finally called fucking foul. It's very interesting. Feels good. It's very interesting. Feels real fucking good My sleeper is JK Dobbins. He's gonna score the charges all the all all the Chargers offense good score score score score score score score I love that charge up JK Rowling. Um

The brawny stuff was ridiculous. So it was a cool moment for LeBron like a good It was a good family moment for LeBron But then everyone else had to participate in LeBron James's awesome family moment it which is fine You can make us he's earned the right to like basically tell the Lakers what to do. Yes. Because he's been arguably the best player of all time. And you've, you've got to see like Bronnie grow up from the time that LeBron was starting in the league. So it's, it's a cool story, but to act like it's a great moment that Bronnie made it to the NBA. Yeah.

And there, there is obviously also the health scare thing with Bronnie last year where he like his heart stopped. And so it does add to it being a cool moment for LeBron for LeBron for LeBron But we don't have to act like Bronnie is an actual NBA. That's the big part. It's all for LeBron Yeah, none none of this was for Bronnie. I feel bad for Bronnie in a weird way cuz like he's he knows it But anyone who was saying this was like the coolest thing they've ever seen I thought So when he got drafted I was like, oh, that's a cool moment, you know, that's that's fun And I was not I wasn't totally against all of this. I

Thought that Bronte stupidly thought that Bronte would start the G League and would be in the G League for a while It the where it flipped for me where I was like, this is fucking ridiculous. Everyone just stopped like sucking LeBron's dick here and pretending like this is a monumental thing is that they put him in the first game. That was like, come on. Yeah, it was-

First fucking game. Do you think that the original plan was send him to the G league and then after he has one really good game, bring him up and act like he earned the right to be on the roster? If Bronny had gone to the G league and worked on his game and he's probably not talented enough to be in the NBA regardless,

but say he works on his game for a year, two years, LeBron says, I'm gonna retire, LeBron's last game in the NBA, he's like, hey, I would like my son to be on the court with me. That's an awesome moment. That's a great moment I actually think that even even the biggest haters amongst us, right if if brawny had gotten into the game Gets one shot and he hits it that would have been awesome. That's an awesome moment. That would have been a very cool moment It's like the the student manager getting in in the last game of a high school game and just heating up from three for no reason

Yeah, but this was just so manufactured and not real that it just I don't know first game was just so weird to me. But it is a cool moment for Lebron. For Lebron. Like it's an insanely cool moment for that family. I think it's better that he went and played in his first game. Well I don't think he should have been on the roster in the first game. But you can just get it out of the way because if he was in the G League then that would be the whole story for like a while. I don't know like when is Ronnie gonna get get called up When is he gonna get that that game with LeBron like when are we gonna have that moment now that it's out of the way now? He can like just yeah, maybe if you're a brawny like I know you can't do this, but I would have said hey dad

Don't make me get drafted to your team. Let me go be in the g-league on another team I agree with Max though. If you're going to do it, better to get it out of the way. It just seems so weird. Yeah, it already happened. Now the moment is already there. We would be talking about it all the time. Like when is it?

Bronny has one good game, and they're like, oh, they're going to bring him up now. It was very funny watching him check into the game, too, seeing that Bronny is like probably nine inches shorter than LeBron. It just seems so fake. That's all. All right, let's go. I like JJ though, pretending that he didn't know that Bronny was going to check inches shorter. Yeah, Bron. It just seems so fake. That's all. All right. Let's I like JJ though, pretending that he didn't know that Bronnie was

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coach Gruden. Thank you for joining us. Let's start with this. Can I still call you coach? Is that, is that still okay for us to call you coach during this interview? That's perfectly fine. Yes, sir. okay for us to call you coach during this interview. That's perfectly fine. Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So you, we have a ton of questions, uh, very excited to have you on. Um, let's start with this. You're, you're, you're zooming in right now from the fired. What do we call it? The fired football coaches, uh, Institute. It's the association. It's the FFCA. Don't you know, man? Okay. So the FFCA. So for people who don't know, uh, you have set up basically a facility that looks almost like a coach's facility at, at, at, at a team where there's offices in different rooms. Uh, so what, what exactly like made

you decide to start this and, uh, what does a day to day look like in the FFCA? Well, when I got fired by the, uh by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I got into Monday night football. I needed a place to go and study and put all my game plans and my servers and memorabilia. So I bought a building and it's kind of taken off from there, but we bring in a lot of coaches, players, college players, pro players. We collaborate on football, study football. And during the season, we have a routine. During the off season, we have a routine. And right now we're just grinding, getting ready for next week's games.

I love that. So yeah, so you're basically not coaching, but you're going through the motions of what a coach would do every single week. That's perfect. That's exactly right. I have two servers. I think I'm the only human being that has these servers where you can put cut-ups from years past. You can continue to make cut-ups from last week's games, offensive cut-ups, defensive cut-ups, blocking scheme, red zone, you name it. And when the players start coming in in the off season, I have everything ready to go and

we can start analyzing and studying things specifically. That's so cool. That sounds like a great setup that you guys have down there. So you're grinding the tape, you're going through like you would an actual coach. Do you have like a staff? Is there a hierarchy of like who's the head fired football coach? Well, I'm the head man here. I pay the bills. So if you pay the electricity, you know, you get the big desk. I got the big room here, but I have my assistant, Jeff Leonardo, who was with me at Monday night with me with the Raiders. Um, he's my only full-time employee.

I can't afford a full staff right now, but we're working hard men. We're on our way back and we're, we're eager for that next opportunity down the road. So your YouTube channel, Gruden Loves Football, I love it because it's you talking into the camera and getting sweaty, getting really intense. And I don't know how much of it you put on as an act, but I choose to believe that it's 100% authentic that you're sitting there in the dark watching quarterback film and you're just sweating thinking about how good they are. Is that fair? It's pretty much accurate. I love to do three or four games a week. And you know, I think to do a decent job, you got to study every team's offense and every team's defense. You got to study the matchups. You got to look at the red zone, short yardage, goal line, two minute drill. You got to look at the rotation of players, the injury list. And what it does is it keeps me on schedule, keeps me up the breast as to who's doing what

in the NFL, where personnel is going, who's emerging, who's declining. And it's stimulating. I love it. And the channel's name, Gruden loves footballs is about as accurate as you can call it. I still do love the game, even though I don't have a team. Yeah. We, we love guys who love football. I mean, we love football too. Sometimes football doesn't love us back, but we absolutely love guys who love football and I think you fit the bill more than anybody. Yeah.

Well, you guys do too. I love watching your show. You guys are a little bit more harsh, a little bit more critically honest than me, but I love it, man. I absolutely love it. Some of the things that you guys say I kind of say behind closed doors sometimes. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's mutual. We got a lot in common. So, so you said something there that I want to go back to. Uh, you said

next opportunity. Are you actively trying to get back into coaching? Cause I w we would love to see you back on a sideline. Uh, how's that process going and is it NFL? Is it college or is it whoever's going to give you that next opportunity? Yeah, I try not to overanalyze it. I just try to, I just try to stay ready and be ready to go. If, if that opportunity does arise, I know this, I'll be ready to go. But in the meantime, I'm having a blast. I really am. I enjoy what I'm doing. I've had a chance to spend some time with my wife, see a little bit of the sights. I've even got my golf game now where it's pretty competitive. So I like that.

Okay. All right. Are you still waking up at 317 in the morning every day? I'm a little bit later than that, but it's four o'clock in the morning. I like to get in and get out. I like to have a day left when I get out of work. I like to come in here when there's nobody up, nobody's around. I can pound the film for four or five hours, get a workout and go do something else. That's great. So let's talk about the NFL right now. What are, what are some of the

big picture trends that you're seeing? I know you're not a fan of the RPO game and the clapping cadence. I read that. What, what, what's your gripe with that? And, and what do you think, you know, is missing in today's NFL? Well, I don't like passing plays with the offensive line run blocking. I don't like seeing quarterbacks getting their ass knocked off because of this ridiculous protection offense that I'm watching. That's what RPO stands for me. I mean, when you blitz a run play, the quarterback gets rocked. And some of these hits and some of these injuries that quarterbacks are getting,

running the ball, it makes me sick. I just saw another kid in Washington get hurt yesterday. But anyways, I try to look at the RPO game. I don't want to see Friday night offense in high school all day Saturday and then see it on Sunday. I want to see these NFL quarterbacks drop back to pass, throw an array of routes with different route trees and audibles. I want to see a professional style of pass offense. I don't want to see the Friday, Saturday night football. Yeah.

So which quarterback right now do you think fits that mold the best? Who's, who's playing at the top of their game? Man, I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't want to see the Friday, Saturday night football. Yeah. So which quarterback right now do you think fits that mold the best? Who's playing at the top of their game? Man, I don't even think it's close. I did a thing with the Detroit Lions last week. I think Jared Goff is starting to look like Joe Montana to me.

He plays with continuous movement. He completes almost every single pass. He's tough as hell. He has continuity in the same system. He knows and anticipates what plays are going to be called. They move the ball around, man. They throw it to the tight end, both backs. They throw it to all these different receivers.

They have a real impressive balanced offense, but I don't even think it's close. I got Goff way up there on my list. Yeah, he's been on fire and he's interesting because he was okay in LA. He was not a bad quarterback for the Rams. And then you've seen that, you know, they kind of cast him aside. They said they wanted somebody who can win them a Superbowl. They get Stafford golf goes up to Detroit, kind of forgotten about and then he gets better and better as the years go on. And it's just kind of a reminder

that not always, you know, you can't take a 23 year old and say like, this is the peak of their ability. They're going to continue to improve. So how do you do that? How do you weigh that as a coach saying we've got this guy who's supposed to be really good, all the physical tools, but he's just not getting it done when he's 23, 24 years old. How do you, how do you get through that spot and give that guy another chance or a chance to improve

until like their late 20s, early 30s? Well, I was shocked that they traded golf personally. I wasn't on board with that trade. I mean, not only did they trade golf, they traded three first rounders with golf. And I see where the Lions are now and I see where the Rams are now. And right now I'd rather be with Detroit. But golf know, Goff did take him to the Super Bowl and Bill Belichick and the Patriot defense did a great job playing that 4-3 defense what they hadn't shown a lot during the season and they stymied the Rams. And I know Matt Stafford's got a cannon and I love watching him wing it, but obviously the longevity, the mobility of Stafford now isn't what it was three years ago. But I would have hung in there with Goff personally.

He's a great A guy. He's smart as hell. He's a great competitor and he's young. And it's hard to depart with a quarterback that has that much upside of future in my opinion. Yeah. So it's a good point. Obviously the Rams won a Super Bowl, but they did trade a lot of first round picks and you know, a little bit mortgage, a little bit of the future. You for people who don't know, because you know, we have fans that maybe were very young at the time you were traded from the Raiders to the Bucks for a haul. Like it's actually

shocking to look at because I don't think that would happen in today's NFL. When you got traded, what was it? It was two first round picks, right? And it was some, it was some more picks on top of that. Did you, when that happened, when that all went down, was there a part of you like this might bite me in the ass going down the line because I'm going to Tampa, which is a great team, won a super bowl, but I'm also hurting myself four or five years down the line because we're giving up all these picks to the Raiders where I'm leaving. Yeah. I mean, that was brutal. I mean, we won the Superbowl our first year. We had a

hell of a defense. Our offense came around, but you know, when the season is over and you got to get ready for the draft and you don't have a first round pick and then whoops, you don't have a second round pick and then you don't have a first round pick and then whoops, you don't have a second round pick and then you don't have a first round pick or a second round pick the next year. That's tough when you see the Saints bringing in Drew Brees and Jeremy Schocke and the Falcons are bringing in Michael Turner and Tony Gonzalez and John Abram and people forget at that time Carolina was a pain in the ass, man. They had Julius Peppers and Mike Rucker and Steve Smith and Musa Muhammad, two great backs. They represented the NFC in the

super bowl. So yeah, you're right. That was, uh, that was a tough time. When you sacrifice that much, uh, draft capital, it can bat, it can come back and bite you pretty good. Yeah. It's, it's pretty shocking to look back at it. It was two first rounds, two second rounds and $8 million. Like that, that wouldn't happen in today's NFL. I feel like teams are a lot more protective of their picks and, and the way to get better is through the draft. Um, but that defense and that Superbowl team was incredible and flags fly forever. Uh, where would you rank that your bucks defense in terms of all time defenses

because you guys were an absolute wrecking crew for hall of famers, maybe a fifth, if you want to say Simeon Rice could, could eventually end up there. Where do you rank them though in all time defenses? Well, selfishly I'd rank them very high. I try not to get into all the nostalgia. I mean, I don't know the 75 Steelers, the Dolphins, the 17 and old Dolphins. I mean, you don't know those teams, the Chicago Bears, the 85 Bears, unbelievable. We lost to the Ravens in the AFC Championship game when I was with Oakland.

They were really good. But what we did with that defense, guys, is we scored touchdowns on defense. I knew we had a hell of a defense. We didn't have a hell of a team when on defense. I knew we had a hell of a defense. We didn't have a hell of a team when I got to Tampa. We had a hell of a defense and we challenged the defense. If you're that good, why don't you start scoring touchdowns? I mean, pick up the ball and run it back for a touchdown.

Don't just intercept the ball, get a block and score. And I challenged them. This is no kid. And I said, Hey, I want nine touchdowns. And it really pissed them off. They're like, who the hell is this guy coming in here telling us to score nine touchdowns? And I'll never forget this when Dwight Smith intercepted

Gannon for the last time in the Super Bowl, ran it back. Warren Sapp grabbed me and he said, you want nine touchdowns? There's number nine. They scored nine touchdowns. But I think that's what really separated us from other defenses is not only did we stop the run and we're really tough against the pass, but we scored touchdowns. Yeah. I love that. You spoke it into existence. You said, I believe you can get nine and they,

in the back of their head, they might've subconsciously believed you the entire time. That's pretty crazy So when you were on the Bucks you had Mike all-star one of our favorite players of all time And I believe John Lynch was your safety at the time. Did you have a rule in practice that they weren't allowed to hit each other? Yeah, I tried to make sure those two guys didn't hit each other because I wanted to save those hits for Sunday But we had a lot of etiquette rules and we tried to enforce them probably harder than I ever had done before because it was so competitive. This was an alpha defensive team who had taken great pride in punishing the offense twice a day in training camp and throughout the off season. But when I

got there, we had to make sure they stay away from the quarterback and we try to protect each other. And that's pretty common around the league. Yeah. Yeah. I got a, uh, this is a question from our friend, uh, Steven Che who's a diehard Bucks fan who loves you. Uh, he wanted, he wanted me to have you, I'm going to read a play call out to you and he wants you to, to explain exactly what it means. Some real football nitty gritty stuff. Green, right X shift to Viper three eight two X stick. Luki. It's X. Luki.

Luki. Luki. Luki. Green, right X. X was a tag that switched the Z and the X. So McCardell and Keishon Johnson would switch sides. So green was the backfield set. It was an I-formation. Green, right, X, our two receivers switched. When we shifted the Viper right, Viper, our empty backfield sets were named after snakes at that time. So we had Cobra, Viper, Python. We had a lot of different reptiles and snakes, you see. But it was green, right, X Cobra, Viper, Python. We had a lot of different reptiles and snakes,

you see. But it was Green-Ride X shift to Viper-Rite, and it was 380 or 382 at that time, which was the protection. And X-Stick was on one side and Lookie was on the other. It was a pick-a-side play for the quarterback, but Green-Ride X shift to Viper-Rite, 382 X-Stick, Lookie. The only guy that ever had a hard time calling that play was Chris Sims. side play for the quarterback, but green right X shifted by right three 82 X stick. Lucky. The only guy that ever had a hard time calling that play was Chris Sims. And unfortunately, they caught me on video getting ticked off about it.

You basically reinvented algebra just in the name of football plays. They get like so long. But you are a math guy. I remember I saw a video. You can count backwards by threes from any number? No, I can do it by four. I can go forward better than backward, but I don't have a lot of intelligence. I will say this, when I did Monday Night Football for nine years, I studied different terminologies. I grew up in Bill Walsh and Mike Holmgren's 49er West Coast system,

which is very wordy at times. But for the six or seven years, the last six or seven years, I started studying new terminologies, new ways to streamline it so we could get out of the huddle and be quicker. And our new terminology that we had with the Raiders those last couple years, if you get with Darren Waller or Hunter Renfro or Derek Carr, it was a lot easier to say, I do believe. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes they do, it sounds like they go on for like five seconds of the play clock. I'm like, we need to shorten this down a little bit, get up to the line of scrimmage. You were talking about the RPOs, how you don't like that new evolution of the game. Is there something in the game, like a

new wrinkle that you're looking at and you're saying, hey, this is actually really cool, I think that this actually has a future. Well don't get me wrong. I think the RPOs are great until you see a lot of man coverage or you start seeing some blitzing because your quarterback has to hold the ball and sometimes the protection breaks down. But I like tempo. I like changing of speeds. I like the no huddle offense. Don't get me wrong. And I do like having three different tempo speeds

where you have maybe 15 or 20 words in every game plan or you say the word, man. You say Tina Turner or you say Bruce Springsteen and that means everything. Formation, play, everything. And we're gone, man. Before you could even say PTI, it's gone. I mean, we're playing fast.

And then we get up there, and we might slow the tempo down, use a dummy count, and try to read the defense's mail a little bit. And then we might use some motions, maybe two or three motions, and milk it all the way down to six seconds to try to get into the perfect play and take advantage of that coach to quarterback walkie talkie. But I love the teams that change speeds. I'm very interested in Seattle

with this Grubbs cat from Washington. I think they're doing some of this and they tore Atlanta up the other day and I think they're kind of on the cutting edge of what I'm talking about in terms of changing up the speeds to keeping these defensive coordinators off balance. You know, these defensive guys, they have a hard time calling plays until they know what personnel is on the field. And I give the defensive guys a hard time because they're not as smart and intelligent as us offensive guys. So the more we can screw with these guys in

terms of change in speeds and change in personnel, um, the more you can have success. So, so you mentioned Seattle, uh, is there another offense that you've watched the tape of and you're like, they're doing something different and special and watch out for these guys because I love, I love whenever a coach comes on and tells us that like, Hey, this is what we're not seeing right now. Might not be, they may not be the best team in the league, but what they're doing is something that's different that everyone's going to eventually probably copy. Well, I, I went up to Kansas city and spent five or six days with the chiefs in training camp and he's a good friend of mine and they afforded me that opportunity. I just think

the way that they practice, the way that they work behind the scenes, they're on the cutting edge and they have been able to adapt to so many incredible, I mean incredible changes on their offense. Left tackle, they're playing a rookie, they lose Pacheco, they lose their receivers. I mean it's amazing what they've been able to accomplish as they reinvent their offense. But I always love watching them. And I like watching Kyle Shanahan stuff on first and second down. I think their run and play action pass

marries together really good. I enjoy watching that. And I like LaFleur, honestly, up in Green Bay. And I've been keeping some tabs on Houston a little bit too here lately, although they kind of disappointed me yesterday late in the game. Yeah. Yeah. What was it? So, so about that Houston, like they have all the talent in the world. CJ Stroud is a very good quarterback, but it has looked clunky at times. What's it, you know, offensive line has not been great. What I, let me actually ask you this,

what, what do you do when your offensive line is not great? How do you fix it in season? Knowing you can't get help from free agency, you can't probably get a trade because offensive linemen don't get traded like that. What is, what is a fix from a coaching perspective for an offensive line that's getting your quarterback killed? Man, it's hard. You know, it's very hard when you lose some linemen. I'm watching the normal saints. They've lost four or five linemen. Yeah.

It's hard to call plays, hard to run, hard to run block, hard to pass protect. And the way we have to practice, guys, that's what ticks me off as a coach. I fought a little bit with people behind the scenes about not being able to wear pads during training camp or not being able to pad it up twice a week during practice. I'm not talking about every period, but being able to go out there and work on some stunt pickups and one-on-one pickup with pass protection. You know, when you just think you're going to go out there in shorts and have a walkthrough and have eight or nine, you know, stunts and shorts pickup, and then go out there and pick up Micah Parsons screaming in the A-gap, you're whistling Zip-a-dee-doo down your butt. You know what I mean?

So pass protection is falling apart right now, I think, because of the way we're practicing and the injuries that are occurring now, I've never seen before. I've never seen so many big guys miss time. I remember certain seasons where linemen never missed a snap. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're watching this tape, obviously you're guys miss time. I remember certain seasons where linemen never missed a snap. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're watching this tape, uh, obviously you're an offensive guy and your eye goes to the office. I like to also think that you still have that, that football coach mentality where you see a great defensive player and

you actually get scared watching him. You're like, Oh shit, this guy's, this guy's going to give me nightmares. I'm going to wake up tomorrow and think about Micah Parsons. Is there anybody else in the NFL right now that has that effect on you, where you watch them and you're like, I'm really glad I don't have to coach against this guy? Well, my favorite players, I don't know where I stand. I love Micah Parsons when he plays.

I mean, his motor's insane. You know, I really like guys like Fred Warner of the 49ers. I got a lot of respect for him, how he plays the game. Chris Jones, Bosa, I'm talking about Nick Bosa in San Francisco. Those guys are incredible players. And I do like the two inside linebackers of the Chiefs. If you ever get a chance to watch Tranquil and Bolton, they'll kick your ass, man. And they know what they're doing and they cover for each other.

They're great communicators. And right now they just don't make any missed tackles. They're sure tackling guys, but Buddha Baker in Arizona is one of my favorite players. I love watching him play. I like this Mafia guy, Mafia out in Seattle. I didn't know much about him until I started studying these Seahawks. Dexter Lawrence is the one guy though, I would say, that is probably the one guy we would struggle with the most.

If you don't have a guard, if you don't have a center, you're in trouble against the Giants because that guy's pretty good, man. Yeah. What about Gruden grinders? Are you still awarding Gruden grinders? Yeah. Yeah, we do. We try to pick five Gruden grinders in college and five or six in the pros every week.

We try to pick the Gruden grinder criteria. You got to be an off the radar kind of guy. You got to be a teamwork kind of guy, versatile, smart, tough, mentally tough guy that's clutch. So we're always looking for Gruden grinders. Do you you have, do you have like a number one Groot and grinder in the NFL right now? Well, right now it'd be hard to say. It's only seven games into the season, but, um, you know, the little running back in Tampa, this Bucky, yeah, he's starting to, he's starting to really fire me up. You know, this guy, uh,

he's starting to catch the ball better. He's picking up blitzes a little bit better. And if he hangs onto the ball, I know he had that big fumble against Atlanta, but if he hangs onto the rock, he's gonna be on my old Gruden grinder team. It's also fun to say Bucky Irving. It's just a good name.

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in college football. We, if you'd like, we'd love to have you be a, a voter on the, on the award. It's called the low man trophy. And we've got some guys who are playing the NFL now. Hunter Lepke won it. He's on the Cowboys, Alec Engel on the Dolphins. So we're, we're trying to shine some lights on the guys that probably aren't getting a lot of, uh, publicity. Well, we had Alec Engel. I coached Alec in the senior bowl when he was coming out of Wisconsin. We signed Alec and I don't know why the Raiders let him go, but, uh, he's a poor man's use check. Use check is my favorite fullback of all the things that he does in San Francisco, it's insane, man. He's, he's whamming the nose tackle.

He's reaching a defensive end. I like him. I like the big guy in Baltimore too, this Patrick Ricard. Yeah. Yeah. And I know a hardball down in Los Angeles, charger land is trying to duplicate it with that Maddox guy. They got out of Boise state. Yeah. Um, Alec Engold is, is, is certainly pretty good. I think

he'll benefit when Tua comes back to play quarterback so they can become a little bit more pro style. Yeah. Probably. So, uh, you mentioned the hardboss. Is there any sibling rivalry between the Grudens and the hardboss? No, not really. I don't think so. We never really crossed paths much with the Harbaz. Coach Harbaz came to the Raiders after I left. And I did get a chance to spend some time with John Harbaz and Todd Monk in this off season here at the FFCA. So if you get those guys on your show, you can even ask them. They were here representing the Ravens.

Yeah. The Harbaugh's they're good friends of ours. I was just, I was wondering who would win in a fight between the two sets of brothers. Well, I'm not messing with, uh, with Jim Harbaugh. John Harbaugh, probably he's, you've seen that guy lately. He looks like he lives in a weight room. Yeah. Uh, you know, I'm good friends with Tom Kreen also, Tom Kreen the great basketball coach. Now I think he's at ESPN still but he married Harbaugh's sister. So it's quite a coaching family that they have and I'm really, I'm excited to watch the Harbaugh Raven team come in here tonight.

They play the Bucks here in Tampa. What about the Ryan brothers? Do we have any beef with the Ryan brothers? Because we just love, we love just making up beef where it's brothers coaching brother to duos going up against each other. No, not really. You know, Rex kicked my ass when he was with the Baltimore Ravens in the AFC championship game. He had, they had quite a defense, but I never really got to coach against Rex more than that. I think that one time and Rob is still with the Raiders. My son Deuce is still with the Raiders.

He's one of the strength coaches down there. And if you know Rex or Rob Ryan, you know those guys are great, man. They are fun. I got to go visit the Jets when Rex was the head coach. He let me come out there when I was doing Monday night football. We spent about three days out there. What a staff they had with Mike Westoff and Mike Pettin and you know just a heck of a group of guys. We really enjoyed that. Yeah we're big fans of your son

Deuce. We've met him a couple times. He just whenever you know we'd see him he's an accomplished weightlifter. What is he what's his weightlifting routine these days? I mean he's just he feels like he just loves football as much as you and he just found a way into the game through the strength and conditioning. Well, he played football at Lafayette in Pennsylvania and he's a running back and he wanted to be a strength coach. He won the world champion powerlifting meet. My wife and I flew to Belarus. If you can believe that he won the strongest man in the world, 180 pound guy

with the bench press, the squat and the deadlift, but he still lifts. I remember one time I was down there with the Raiders and Richie Incognito was our strongest player. And Richie had a hard time getting the 455 pounds off his chest because in powerlifting, it's by commands. It's down. I don't know what the commands are. They say press. So you have to do it from a complete negative. And I remember Deuce knocking up about 455 and incognito struggling

and all the players giving Richie a hard time. It was pretty cool. But he still lifts, he still trains and I think he's hoping to get back into the competitive part of it. Yeah, we saw him out in LA this year and he looks just as strong as ever. So his name's not Deuce though, it's John. And you called him Deuce because he's John the second? Well, that was what everybody thinks. When I was coaching for the Green Bay Packers,

Sterling Sharp was our best player. He was our receiver. I coached the receivers and Sterling wore number two at South Carolina. Everybody called him deuce. I said, that's a pretty cool name. So I started thinking, you know, John David, the second sterling, I really named them after sterling sharp, to be honest with you. Um, he was a hell of a player. You guys should help get him into hall of fame. It's too bad he got hurt. Yeah. Yeah. No, he was a incredible in his career cut short. Uh, speaking of your time in green Bay and all your travels, uh, you were on, uh, part of that coaching staff that had a bunch of head coaches come out of that in

the mid nineties Packers, uh, in terms of your coaching tree, you got, you know, guys like Mike Tomlin, Raheem Morris, Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan. Do you find yourself rooting extra hard for guys that you are under your tree so to speak? Pretty much. I mean if it's one of the guys I know against one of the guys that you know I'm rooting for my guy. Yeah. What is it about Mike Talman? I have a question about him because he just, it's so consistent

and every year it feels like the Steelers are in the same spot where teams discount them and say they got no chance and then he always just, he has a competitive team year in year out. What is it with Mike Tomlin that has that special sauce that he's always able to get the most out of his team? I think number one, he's a great communicator. He's a great motivator and he's very consistent and he's not a basket case. He doesn't come in different one day and different the next. People believe in him. They trust him and he knows what he's talking about.

He's also in a superior organization. They have had a great organization from top to bottom and I think he really allows people to do their thing. And he's not one of these abrasive guys. He's just a great communicator. He's a very smart football guy. He knows how to use people and their talents. And he's been very good at delegating

when he has to delegate. And he's been very good at taking the chalk and saying, here's what we're doing. And there's a fine line to that, I think, being a great coach, he's overcome the loss of a lot of different offensive co coordinators. Um, and now he's putting it together without Ben Roethlisberger, which a lot of people thought he was struggle doing. Yeah.

I think it's a credit to his imagination, his creativity, his people skills, and nobody's a better competitor than Tomlin. He is a, he's a guy that'll fight you till the end, whether you want to fight or not. Yeah. He, and it does feel like, uh, history has been kind to Mike Tomlin and the fact that he's had locker rooms with some big personalities that, uh, have gone other places and you're like, how did Tomlin keep that together? Was there, did you call, uh, coach Tomlin when Antonio Brown came to your team and you're

like hey what do I do here because it did feel like he was able to push the right buttons with a B and maybe teams after that weren't able to find all the right buttons. Well you know what that was probably one of the more disappointing things that I had to go through as a coach. I studied Antonio when I went and watched the Steelers practice when I was doing Monday night football. I knew Butch Jones, who coached Antonio in college. And the work ethic, the practice etiquette, the conditioning of this man, the route running, good God. He came to our mini camp and he put on a display. When he was on the grass for us,

I really thought we were gonna win every game. I thought we were gonna complete every pass. He is a certified badass when it comes to running routes. I just think he got later in life and he found some different interests. And I don't know what happened, but I did have some brief conversations with Mike, obviously along the way. And I just had hope that putting him in our locker room with some of the veteran leadership

that we had, I thought maybe we could really help him take off and take his game to even another level. But you got to put that on me. It just didn't work out. What were the updates like for you during that? It felt like two weeks of just chaos. Was there somebody that would come in your office and say, sir, Antonio Brown has just arrived in a hot air balloon? He's frozen his foot off. Sir, Antonio Brown doesn't like his helmet, sir.

You know what? The NFL was so kind, they put us on hard knocks. So we had some characters on that day. We had Richie Incognito and Antonio and Vontez Berfict. We really had a great group of guys, but I'd never heard of cryotherapy. I don't know if you guys have heard of it, but evidently he burned his feet doing cryotherapy. I'd never had a player show up on a hot air balloon before. I was excited about that, but everything was different. The helmet we had an issue with, and unfortunately, it just did not work out. We never really got to spend enough time together to build

a relationship. And that's what I regret the most. I felt had we been able to be around each other maybe a little bit more, perhaps it would have worked out. Yeah. You were talking about good organizations like the Sealers. You've coached for some good organizations. Your brother Jay, I'll just say he hasn't been as lucky with some of the organizations that he's worked for in the past and the leadership. But from the top down, like what does that look like if you're a head coach and the difference between

just a good organization with stable ownership and a bad organization? Like what are the day-to-day implications and things that come up when you have to deal with just a team that might not have it all together? Well, I think that's a great question. I think it all starts with communication and knowledge. You know, I think the owner that really,

or the owner that hires people that really are on top of the league, the matchups, the rules, the playing rules, the scheduling. There's so many details, the financial piece of this and hiring a staff, the facilities. There's a million things that you need to address. And to have an owner who's around perhaps enough to stay on top of all these issues and really have a competitive edge about it, if you know what I mean, I think those are,

those are the places that, that really are a cut above. Yeah. In the like 2010s, early 2010s, the NFL network did a top 100 NFL players of all time. You had Jerry Rice's number one of all time. Is that still the case? Yeah, that would be for me. I mean, I was telling somebody the other day that the thing that Jerry Rice, you know, you hear about some of these receivers now, uh, you know, their stats and all this Jerry Rice never caught a bubble screen. I don't know if Jerry Rice caught three quick screens either. He didn't want those routes. He was running patterns, man.

And the greatest thing about Jerry Rice is I really believe he loved the misery. 37, 38 years old, whenever it was when he came to the Raiders to play opposite Tim Brown, his body didn't feel good. He was sore as hell. He was tired. He was beat up. We were behind. We weren't getting in the ball enough.

They were rotating coverage to him. And that's when he kicked your ass. That's when he played his best. When he was miserable. That's when Jerry Rice was the hardest to stop. And I think that's what separates the great ones from the really good ones, is their ability

to go out there and just lay it down, man, when they're not at their best. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a great pick for a best player of all time. It was incredible. And you've been around enough football. I mean, you love football so much you created like a synthetic football team in South Florida that you guys can study table.

You clearly love football. You're a football guy through and through. You've been around so many great coaches. Who is the top football guy? And he might not be the best coach. Might not be the best coach that you would think of, but one guy that just eats, breathes and shits football. You talking about living? Yeah. Yeah. Man, that's a good question. I'm going to Bloomington, Indiana this week to find out the best, what the hell's going on with the best story in all of football.

That's the Indiana Hoosiers. This Signeady guy, Signeady, he takes James Madison, he's undefeated at James Madison or 12 and one, Indiana is seven and oh man, they just beat Nebraska 56 to seven. I heard this guy absolutely loves it. I'm going to try to sneak into practice or sneak around to walk through and find out. But there are so many guys that love it. To try to rank them right now, I would say that would be tough. Sean McVeigh, I think, loves it. Just after working with Sean, I know how hard he works.

Mike Tomlin's one of the guys that loves it. I think Tomlin would do it for free, to be honest with you. But I can't say. I Tomlin's one of the guys that loves it. I think Tomlin would do it for free, to be honest with you. But I can't say, I think Bill Walsh was the number one guy. I was ever around, Al Davis would be right up there because of their 24-7 year round the clock passion for it. Do you ever give Sean McVeigh shit? Because over the years, he's changed his voice a little bit

to try to sound more like you? No, they just, they got to start winning some games because since that Super Bowl, I know people quote my one loss record after we won the Super Bowl. Ah, it ain't worth the shit. You know, they got to, they got to get back in gear, get back to that Super Bowl and win it. Do you, do you think Sean has gotten a little too pretty, uh, with the, you know, facial hair being perfect and, and you know, the perfect hair and he looks like he put on some muscle? Do you think he's little too pretty with the facial hair being perfect and the perfect hair and he looks like he put on some muscle. Do you think he's gotten too pretty?

Probably. All these guys nowadays, they have beards. I still can't grow a beard, but all these coaches, I saw Shanahan on TV the other day, he had a beard. Tomlin's got a big old beard down there on the field. I like to clean shave and when I was Bobby Knight's ball boy when I was a kid, you had to have hair above the ear. You had to have clean facial hair. I don't like all these beards. Even Mike McCarthy, Mike and I worked together at the University of Pittsburgh. Even he's got a big old beard now.

So I don't know what the hell kind of styles going on with these coaches. Yeah. What are they trying to hide with that beard? Yeah. Wait, you were Bobby Knight's ball boy? I was. My dad coached at Indiana for Lee Corso when I was a kid and Bobby Knight's son, Tim and I were best friends. So I was one of the ball boys for the Hoosiers. We were 33 and 0 by the way, 32 and one Quinn Buckner, Scotty May, Kent Benson. I got to be the ball boy for the red team. I love it. The backup players and Tim was the, he was the ball boy for the starters and they would

kick the red team's ass. So coach Knight would come in and he would lay some syllables down that I had never heard before. So how old were you when this was happening? Dude, I was 10, I was 11 years old, 12 years old, 10, 11 and 12. That's incredible. Would Bobby Knight ever get mad at you for your ball boy technique? Would he ever be like, what the hell are you doing over there, Gruden? He might get mad. You know, my hair was probably over my ears for one of the bus trips. I think

that's the only time he got on my case. So what point in, when you were growing up, did you know that you wanted to be a coach? Was it, was it as early as, you know, 10, 11, 12, you're like, this is for me. I love this. I pretty much knew in high school, my dad was coaching at Notre Dame. Joe Montana was our quarterback and we were beating people, man. And that fight song and going to those Notre Dame games was great. And I kind of realized, you know what, I'm not going to be an NFL player.

I'm not good enough. I was a backup quarterback at university at date and being around that Notre Dame locker room, those kids, the kind of guys that they had, the fact they were winning the tradition. I knew I wanted to do it when I was a junior in high school. And, uh, that's probably why I wasn't a great student. And, um, but at least I found my passion and my mom and dad encouraged me to go for it. Wait. So at Dayton, what was your record? Uh, what was your team's record against San Diego? We know, we know that that's a big rivalry. Uh, we were with coach Harbaugh during

training camp and he, there's a story that he created a rivalry flag without even telling Dayton that he was doing it. And so after they beat him one year, they were just like, this is our flag now. And the Dayton coach was like, what do you mean? We didn't, you just created that? And that's, he wanted to juice up the rivalry, but how'd you guys do against San Diego? Well, that was before we were in that conference., did not play San Diego. But funny thing about San Diego's when I was coaching for the Bucs there was a quarterback at San Diego I kind of liked so I called hardball he said yeah, he's pretty good So we drafted him Tampa Bay in a fifth round and a sucker still playing his name is Josh Johnson

Yeah, played for about 25 years. I think he's played for every team in the league now. And that's unbelievable, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is. What is it though? Like I love Josh Johnson. He seems like a good guy. You wouldn't get all these jobs if you were a bad dude. He's obviously a professional, coaches like him, teammates like him. Why hasn't a guy like that been able to stick around with one team? I don't think he throws it personally. I don't think he throws it consistently great. I think when you go watch him, you're like, what the hell's wrong with your... He has a nice throwing motion. He has a good arm. Don't get me wrong, but it's not a pretty spiral. It's not always

accurate. But you know what? Every time I see him in a game, the guy comes alive when the lights are on, man. He's really something. He's a gamer. I think he's a guy that can survive on a few reps. He probably just lacks the talent, the elite talent to be an everyday starter. Yeah. I just feel like a backup quarterback like that, that's proven that they can be a good backup.

Even an emergency guy that you put in, that guy should have a job as a backup on a consistent team. Yeah, he still has a job right now. I mean, he's still in the league. And matter of fact, when Jay was coaching, I think his last year in Washington, they got decimated. Alex Smith got hurt. Haskins got hurt. Colt McCoy got hurt. They brought in Sanchez, I think. And he ended up signing Josh Johnson and he played really good, the games he got hurt. They brought in Sanchez, I think. And he ended up signing Josh Johnson and he played really good, the games he got in. Yeah. So what about you coach? Do you have a coach? Have you been at the top of your own coaching hierarchy for a while and you don't have somebody that's barking orders at you and screaming at you? Well, my wife, you should see how that's going fellas. I mean, she's tough. My wife, she cheered at Tennessee. That's where I met her. She's five

feet tall. She's a cute little gal and she's running the show now. I'm just, I'm doing my best, man. I'm trying to reinvent myself as a more productive, you know, assistant around the house, but she's dancing. She's a ballroom dancer for Fred Astaire and she dances really well and she dances with these really handsome guys and I'm just kind of, I'm just kind of over here cleaning the house jealous. Is there ever a moment when you're getting up at four in the morning to go into your facility where she has to be like, Hey, uh, John, you're not, you're not on a team right now. Like you don't have to go in at 4 a.m. That happens a lot. It happens a lot. I mean, Butch Jones brought some of the Arkansas State guys down and, uh, Dowell Loggins from South Carolina brought a couple of the game coaches over.

And I, uh, I still look at it like it's the last thing in life, man. Just the opportunity to help somebody get better. Yeah, that's what, that's what this game has always been for me. You know, you just love bringing in a guy and have him play better for you than he did for the other guy. There's something that really fires me up about that. And when you study something all off season and you can help somebody and you see him use it in a game and have success with it, that's awesome. Was Rich Gannon the quintessential guy that you just described?

Because obviously he was not lighting the world on fire and then you got your hands on him and he had some great seasons. Yeah, Gannon was unbelievable, man. I mean, he single-handedly, I think, turned that franchise around. I got a lot of credit for some of the good things that happened, but his attitude, his desire to be great, he'd walk in the office and say, what do you got for me? Coach me, give me some. I mean, he needed tip sheets. And the more control we gave him at the line of scrimmage, the more plays, you know, the more personnel groupings, the better he played. The more we asked him to do, I told him one day, I said, one of these days, Rich, you're going to get on the plane

and you're going to hit me right in the chest and say, wait till you see this film. We didn't waste one play. And I remember one year we played up in Kansas City and we got after their ass. I was sitting in the front of the plane having a cold beer, I was so happy. Gannon walked back toward the plane, he thumped me right on the chest,

he goes, take a look at that film. He just, he loved, he dumped me right on his chest, he goes, take a look at that film. He relished supreme execution. He was so into that. If he audible to a play where we had four on three or we were on a fast break, we had numbers or he audible for Tim Brown against their weak link corner and we didn't get it done, he'd be pissed off for a week. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, he was he was he was just into that he was anally Competitive and I absolutely loved every minute of coaching that guy

Yeah, is there is there a guy that you've had? I know obviously when you coach guys you coach them hard That's kind of your style. You're gonna yell at everybody. You're gonna get in everybody's face How do you know when there's a guy that maybe can't take as much pushing as you want to give them and then do you? Dial it back or you just like this guy can't play for me Yeah, I really I don't yell at everybody. I never yelled at Jerry Rice. I really didn't yell at Tim Brown I'm not gonna yell at Steve Wysniewski or You know Barrett Robbins or so I don't yell a at a lot of these guys. A lot of it's encouraging, sarcasm. I try to piss you off one day.

I try to stir the pot. You know what I mean, guys? I try to make you guys laugh, say something that really make you laugh. And I'll try to tick you off the next day. And then I might try to fire you up. Might even try to well you up one day with a teary-eyed little comment or something.

You know, but I like guys that are emotionally into it, genuine enthusiasm, and consistently there while we're out there. I just can't stand going through the motions with these dull, boring meetings and lackluster practices. They drove me nuts. Yeah. So how do you stir it up? If you're going through a lackluster meeting, if you've been walking around the building, you know, things are just kind of boring. What, what's your plan?

What's your go-to? Do you have like a book that you look up? You're like football coach tricks. Do you get on the phone with somebody? Do you, do you talk to another coach or do you just have like creative energy to, to come up with something weird? Well, creativity is always, I think, been part of being a good teacher. You don't just run the same play from the same formation with the same drills.

You got to mix it up. And I believe in analogies a lot. I would make videos talking about competitiveness. Might have a, I don't know, I might have a leopard taking a drink out of a puddle of water and have some alligator come out of the water and snatch that freaking alley and snatch that guy right there for a snack, you know? If you're not competing for dinner, man, you ain't competing. But just stupid analogies, having fun with these guys, demonstrations, whatever it may be, using the social media world.

There's some unbelievable things. If you have a video guy on your staff or you have somebody that's helping you put together analogies that are relative to the team you're playing or to the guy you're coaching. Uh, the players loved it and they appreciated it. I think deep down somewhere. Yeah. All right. So this has been awesome coach. I got a couple of last questions for you. Uh, the first is, uh, the, so I'm a bears fan, PFT is a commander's fan and our producer Hanks, a Patriots fan. How, what have you seen from the rookie quarterbacks through, you know, limited sample size, but how are, how

are you feeling about Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and Drake may going forward? Did those franchises get the right guy? I really liked the kid in Chicago, Caleb Williams. I think they got to protect them better, you know, against good defenses and obvious passing situations. I'm hoping he starts to do a little bit more at the line of scrimmage, fixing protections, getting out of certain protections when he knows there's a blitz coming that they can't pick up. And I think that'll help him big time moving forward. But his ability to throw the ball from awkward deliveries, his accuracy, I want to see Williams

when the weather gets shitty up there in Chicago though. Yeah. That to me is going to be really important because, you know, having coached for the Green Bay Packers, I'm telling you, it is cold, man. It's hard to throw a ball. I couldn't throw Sterling Sharp ball drills in pregame. It was too cold for me. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And Jayden Daniels, I like Daniels a lot. Obviously he's, he's electrifying, but I saw him get hit again. I saw him carry the ball 18 times in that first game against Tampa. I don't want to see this guy running the ball unless he's scrambling. And I want to see him protect himself a lot better

because he's not the biggest guy, but I'll say this. He has been very impressive throwing and passing and competing. He's just going to be his own worst enemy. I'd be pissed at him every time he took a hit. You know what I mean guys? Yeah. Yeah.

Because that quarterback, he's the only guy on the team that can't play with a sore right shoulder or a jammed left or jammed right thumb. So we got to be really careful with them. And you know, when it comes to Drake, May, I just, I think they have a long way to go with their offense. They really don't have much firepower at receiver. They don't really have a great offensive line. And they're playing behind a little bit, but I thought he showed some poise and he showed

some real progress in the last game and a half against Houston and Jacksonville out there in London. Yeah. I had a last question for you coach. And again, thank you very much for joining us. I hope we can talk to you in person at some point. Come watch some football. By the way, what is your setup like for NFL Sunday? Well, I have this YouTube channel. As you know, you can go, you get all the games, you can flick back and forth or you can put four, four at a time on. So we here at the FFCA, we've got two TVs.

We can put the game we really want to watch on the big one and we can put four games on at the bottom. And then you can put a couple of your buddies over there in the other room to study the game that you can't study. So they can give you a report at half time. It's a sick world that I live in. I love it. I love that.

I love, do you still love spider too? Why banana? Spider, if you have a fullback, that's why I should be on live in. I love it. I love that. I love, do you still love spider too? Why banana? Spider, if you have a fullback, that's why I should be on your fullback board. Yes. You know, I'm watching the Rams, no disrespect to the Rams. I've been watching them all morning. They're an 11 personnel, the whole game. They never have a fullback.

Do you know two back sets? How the hell do you go through a game? Short yardage yesterday against the Raiders, they get smashed on third and one three straight times. Put the fullback in there and throw a Y banana, man. What is it about that play that just makes it unguardable? You know what's great about the play? It's the protection.

Spider two is the protection. Spider two, the line slides to the left and the full back goes to the right in Spider Two. If we call Spider Three, the line slides to the right and the back goes to the left. But Spider Two is an aggressive protection. If you're the right tackle, the right guard, or the center, you block your inside gap. That's it. And you come down pissed off and knock the crap out of that inside gap. The linemen love the protection and it's a safe gap protection. And then you have obviously the full back bluffing and catching the ball.

We used to throw a banana just to get Mike Allstott the ball on the sidelines. So I could see Ray Buchanan of the Falcons try to tackle them. I love that. Making these corners tackle Mike Alstott. Hell, I didn't want to get in my car and go home unless I had that image in my mind. Yeah, I love it. I love it. All right. So I have one last question. Rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. This has been so much fun coach and we definitely want to have you back on talking football week to week here and there. Uh, but I had one last question. Uh, will Compton, you coached them. What do you think about him as a football player? Real football guy. He's a football

guy. Well, he was the original Gruden grinder. When I started doing that segment on Monday night football. Will Compton is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not going to be pretty. He's not going to be Luke. He's not Luke Heakley. He's not Fred Warner.

He's just not, he's just will freaking Compton, but he gets the job done, man. I love it. The guy's productive in any situation and he fights his ass. I love Will Compton. You tell him I said hello. I will listen. We got it. Like PFT said, we got to get you here to Chicago to our studio do in person, maybe watch some football together and then you get to watch. We have a, we have a Wilcox museum in the bathroom here so you can visit it. Maybe you have something that

you could put in there, but yeah, he's got a full handicap stall in the bathroom. It's got all his stats and his, his jer the bathroom. It's got all his stats and his, his jerseys. It's a beautiful museum. Why don't you tell Will Cotten to put a picture of himself up throwing up after Indiana kicked their ass 56, he's in a bad spot right now. He's not, he's not alone. I love your show and thanks for having me on. I hope the ratings don't plummet. No, this could be great. And yeah, we would love to have you come by sometime. And thank you so much, coach. It was great talking football. I'm going to get your info and we're going to,

I'm going to send you a text about the college football low man trophy because we got Lorenzo Neil on there. Mike Allstotz on the committee. We would love to have you on there and shine some light on the fullbacks. That would be an honor. Thank you guys. Welcome back to another fire Fest of the Week brought to you by our friends over at Morgan and Morgan. You know what really sucks? Quitting golf for the entire winter.

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Okay, let's wrap up. We have a fire fest of the week. Henry. Yes. Go ahead. I not too bad of a fire fest could have been worse. Um, I had a 6 a.m flight back from Boston yesterday. Oh no. Uh, I was staying at my uncle. I was a place in Cambridge. So like not too far from the airport. I was sleeping on an air mattress at his place. I had an alarm set for 445 didn't drink a single beer. I had one single beer was given to me

would have been rude to turn it down, but one beer not bad Alarm set for 445 it was on vibrate mode, so I did not hear it My uncle kind of shook me at 515 was like hey, it's 515 I had to just instantly wake up call an uber right away run downstairs Get to the airport the flight stopped boarding at 545 I got to the airport at 535 and then my fire fest was that I had to be that guy in the line at security Hey, I'm really sorry. I have a flight at 6. Do you mind? Hey, I'm really sorry. I have a flight at 6

Do you mind? Hey, I'm really sorry. I have a flight at six do you mind hey? I'm really sorry. I have a flight at 60 mind. I had to full sprint To the airport to make it with one minute to spare anybody say yes, I do mind No, it was only it was in the clear line, so it was only like 10 10 15 people But I felt Horrible doing it super awkward But also it was the only way that I was gonna make my flight and I did so worth it awkward felt like an asshole but sometimes it's got to be done I feel like you you lead this podcast definitely and having other people wake you up as your alarm for you yeah probably yeah well who knows with

you guys I just talked about it yeah Yeah. Good point. So did what did the people say in the line? Yeah, like no problem. Good luck. Yeah. And they said someone else just hated your guts. Yeah, that's the worst. Although there's no one else like it's the it's the six AM I think is like the earliest flight. So I think true that that wasn't as big of a deal because there was no way anyone else was in a rush the end at 6 a.m The very very early is definitely a different vibe than like running in at like 2 in the afternoon Everyone been like dude. You couldn't have planned for this right? Yeah, it's clear that you just slept in yeah We did when you sat down on the plane were you breathing hard sweating? Yeah sweating. I wasn't too long of a run

So no, I also lost my air pods in the oh that's yeah so that was the other fire fest like I put them in the thing grabbed what I thought I grabbed them and then I got to the plane went to take them out like fuck that is yeah so yeah so you had to raw dog it yeah but I slept yeah that's our guy probably didn't snore. That's our guy. Definitely. It's definitely so I probably got a boner Yeah It's healthy man. Yeah Alright pft. My fire fest is that I have a problem. I have a problem It's been going on for a few years now, and it's gotten it's gotten worse in the last like I'd say six months I

I can't stop ordering food to the wrong address yeah so I used to be good for this once every two months or so but it's been like an avalanche recently so a couple Saturdays ago I ordered a hundred dollars worth of Thai food accidentally sent it to the office when I was at home and didn't realize it until I got out and there was no delivery guy there at my front door and I was like fuck wrong address then two days later I ordered Greek soup to the wrong address and I resolved to myself at the moment it's gonna stop happening and it was the opposite I was at work I ordered to my house and then two days ago I did it again and I just can't I can't You just got to check at the top.

So the beef was over at my house a couple of Saturdays ago. And the day that I forgot and ordered soup to my house by mistake and said to the office, the beef hit me up. And he was like, hey, just so heads up, I ordered roast pork by accident to your house because it was still the most recent address. So then I got home and I had two meals waiting for me at my front door, which was kind of nice. But I don't know,

I don't know how to fix this because I've tried to remind myself, but every time I order on Uber Eats, I accidentally, I sent it to the wrong place. And it's a real problem that I have. Look at the top. I've only done that once. It was after beer Olympics. we got back to Chicago like two days after or whatever a day and a half after and I ordered like three different things, three different times I ordered something like back to back to back from CVS to the hotel room we were staying at. Yeah. CVS like you don't think like I wasn't a restaurant because obviously it was a restaurant. You would be like, that's not that restaurants not in Chicago It doesn't exist there Right, but I just kept on trying to get something ordered to the office and it just I it just was going to the hotel

I feel like there's there's no worse feeling than being super excited about a meal Yeah, and you wait for an hour for that meal and then you just open up the app and you're like well fuck now I gotta wait an extra hour for right because it got delivered to the wrong place, right? Max did that you remember with Taco Bell? Oh yeah, yep did that that was a nice anniversary gift Yeah, I've got a real problem with that. I don't know I don't know how to fix it cuz I've tried everything I don't know what to do about it I want to find like a homeless guy in my neighborhood that I can call up and be like hey

There's food at the house again if you just want to stop You just have to stop ordering food to the office But what do I do for lunch I'm about to do it I'm gonna do it in about 30 minutes and and I am if I fuck up when it's this front of my mind then there's a real issue you need to have somebody else order for you yeah or like it's gotta be a submarine where you turn two keys yeah to make it happen and then my other fire fest is I've got a new whitest thing that I've ever done I don't know might it might not be right now the current what whitest thing that I've ever done is wearing the Luke McCaffrey

Jersey, that's actually Okay, so I'm thinking back because for a long time my the whitest thing I've ever done was I at one point took a I took a Hamilton themed peloton ride, okay, which is pretty white It's tough to beat that amount. The Luke McCaffrey Salute to Service off the camo jersey. That's pretty high up there. Might be. I don't know what it is.

I love counterfeit jerseys. They're the best. So that might be number two. And then my third is I ordered a Halloween costume for my dog. So I've done that. So Blake is getting dressed up this year as Willie Nelson. And I got him like, it's got overalls on the front and like a little ukulele for a guitar and Then it's got the braids in its head. I ordered the extra-large because Blake's a big boy

He's about like 125 pounds right now and the extra-large does not translate to Blake size It looks like a smaller medium. So I got Blake dressed up in this Halloween outfit the other day and And he's I just wasted my money on this I think that's okay. I've done that. It's like a little mini Willie Nelson. Yeah, it's kind of it is kind of adorable though. Of course it is. Yeah, it's a dog in a costume The rules but it's also very white All right, mine is just simple that I last week was on a That's very cool thing. I see that you think that's a good outfit for Blake. Yeah, that's a very good

Mine is very simple. I just last week I was on by because the Bears were on the by and Wisconsin played Northwestern and this week. I'm just like in it. It's gonna change Penn State on Saturday night and And then commanders on Sunday, my mood could be completely wrecked until like Thanksgiving. Yeah, somebody's gonna be very depressed on Sunday night. And I have the Penn State like that's a double whammy. So I could be I'm staring down the barrel of a gun. Am I crazy to think though that Wisconsin is not as bad as they looked at the start of the year? No, they're definitely better, but Penn State's very good I'm just hoping

The difference between playing at 11 o'clock in the morning and 630 at night at Camp Randall is night and day. Yeah Yeah, literally things yeah, yeah things could get dicey for you. Yeah, I predict a split for you this weekend I'll be in the building for for that makes me feel good. Yeah, no that you'd be happy with a split No, that makes me feel good that Max is gonna be there in Penn State gear Yeah, yeah soon people people are not happy Penn State fans were not happy when I tweeted that I was gonna go I love that. I love that. What's your record? What do you mean? Oh, they had the whiteout came against, Minnesota What's my record record for Penn State games attended by max I think

three you know no two and one alone I went to Michigan last year that was the worst game ever that was really the worst football game in the history of football yeah Michigan throw the ball yeah they didn't throw the only time in the second half bullied you I went yeah I went, yeah. Just absolutely bullied you. Beat Washington. There was like no quarterback playing that game. On either side. Yeah.

But Drew Allers is a lot better this year than he was last year. It's way different, way different, way different. It's going to be a tough game. All right, good show boys. Numbers. Three. Five. Eighteen.

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