Pardon My Take - Judd Apatow, Kentucky Sports Radio, And Lance Armstrong Documentary

Episode Date: June 12, 2020

We’re in a holding pattern of nothing so we whip through some stories. Is the new protest not protesting in the NFL? Is Saban too old? Is MLB serious? (2:36-14:10) Fyre Fest of the week with an all time Billy story. (14:11-20:41) Judd Apatow joins the show to talk about his new movie King of Staten Island, comedy in 2020, his start and sliding doors. (22:17- 59:14) Best of Kentucky Sports Radio including an all time call from Dilbert in Kentucky. (1:01:19-1:13:25) Lance Armstrong documentary review (1:13:32-1:27:43)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Judd Apatow. Interview with Judd Apatow, go see King of Staten Island right now in your home. And we also have the best of Kentucky Sports Radio.

We love hosting every single year. Had some great calls this year. Hall of Fame call from Dilbert. You gotta listen to it. I'm a main man, Dil. The Dilbert is, I saw, I was tagged on a tweet. Someone said that Dilbert called in to Kentucky Sports Radio and said he's gonna have to leave for a while.

He's not going to jail. Just wants that clear. But he's gonna have to leave for a while. I love that. Sounds like jail. You don't hear too many stories about guys just need to lay low for a while. Well, just calling, telling someone like,

hey man, I'm not gonna talk to you for a while. And I know what you're thinking. Jail. But that's not it. Laying low. All right, so we have that. We have our Lance Armstrong documentary review. What an asshole.

And we have Firefest of the Week. What a what Hank? What? It's a good, that's a good intro to the review. What an asshole. Well, asshole, asterix. Yeah. He's kind of, he's an asshole.

But, and then you can say he's really talented, human being, but. But, but a lot of butts. All right, but before we do all of that, part of my take is brought to you by the Cash App. Not only is it the easiest place to send money to your friends, it's the safest.

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I feel like we're just in a weird waiting pattern. It feels like another Friday the 13th right now. I was shocked when it was in the 13th this morning. We are, but we're excited now. Golf is back. Golf came back today. Yeah, Brooks looks awesome. Brooks was out there in a tight shirt, mustache.

How'd he do? He was okay. He's like, I think five, six strokes back, something like that. I was talking to Brooks. His shoes were awesome. We're trying to get him on before the Blake of the Year. And I was like, we're gonna do Blake of the Year soon.

He's like, fuck man, I gotta fucking play golf. I love it. And he was cussing on the open mic today. He was like nice fucking shot. He looks so good though. That mustache. I hope he doesn't shave it because he is one of those guys that if he committed to the mustache life,

he could be a mustache guy forever. Instead, he's probably gonna, he's probably gonna shave it in like a week or two. Sounds like he was trying to get someone else on board. Well, he looks good. He does. He does. The mustache works on him.

People try it out. There were a scale of you to Billy. Billy looks terrible. No, it's coming in. This is temper, this is quarantine stash. It's coming in. Yeah, it's a playoff beard for not having playoffs. The blonde stash is just not a look that people,

I mean, Larry Bird kind of retired that. It kind of looks like Larry Bird. I'm cosplaying. Okay, he's cosplaying. Yeah, but no, Brooks looks awesome. I really do hope, please keep the stash, Brooks. I hope he does too. I could also see a world where Bryson DeShambo

shows up with a stash next week. Because he's just copying everything. He's copying everything that Brooks does. Did you guys see this video? What? He put up an Instagram video. About what he did during quarantine. It's like 15 minutes long.

He doesn't speak a single word. It's just a highlight video? Yes, it's got music and it's got, it's like, it's like a story. It is. Antonio Brown's video editor is now working for Bryson DeShambo. Bryson DeChimpanzi.

Oh, gross. Yeah, he's trying to do everything that Brooks already made cool about golf, which is getting jacked up. But he's, you're not jacked. I guarantee you Bryson's muscles. Your name's Bryson. Bryson's muscles are like, hey, I'm way too cool to be hanging out with a guy named Bryson.

Oh, gross. All right, so yeah, Brooks is back. He's minus two, tied for 39th. 15 minutes. I root for two golfers. 15 minutes, 15 minutes long. Brooks Kepka. And the, and the course.

And then, well, three golfers. Now I root for two golfers. Brooks Kepka, the course. And then for a swarm of bees to attack Bryson DeShambo. And Phil, when they, when he's in the state of New York, it was like, yeah, yeah, that's pretty bad too. It was weird with no, no fans though. Like they, all the golfers thought that they were being

the first person to like hold the ball up after they made a long putt and like salute the fake fans that weren't there. They thought that was a big, funny thing. I actually thought that it was completely normal. And the fact that I just didn't watch because it was golf on a Thursday. Well, they got me. Good job NBC gold making me buy because I didn't want to watch the Darren Ravel simulcast.

They actually, that's a great. You didn't watch it. No, I didn't watch it. I watched, I watched the NBC gold one. I thought you had to go for. I paid extra money. I thought the bet. To opt out of Darren Ravel.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know, that doesn't. That doesn't work. That doesn't work. The bet was at Ping Pong, right? Nobody reminded me of this bet. What bet? The bet.

That's how you got alerted that it was happening. Yeah. Jake was like, the Jake said that you guys should bet on this and then you bet on it and you lost in Ping Pong. Oh, I didn't remember betting on it. When did I bet on it? On the text. I don't think maybe you didn't.

I don't think I ever bet on it. We didn't do like a handshake. But how do you think you didn't find out about it, Jake? Yeah, I know Jake texted it because he was like, this is relevant to your guys interest. It seems like you have to watch it. But you have to watch it back. It gave me a great idea, though, that the NFL or really any other

sports league could use, which is just basically say that Darren Ravel. No, don't even say Darren Ravel is announcing something. Just give me a Darren Ravel free option and I'll pay extra for that. Right. Even if he wasn't going to be on the original cast. Right. I would pay extra $10 a week to watch Sunday Night Football with

no Darren Ravel on it. I'd be like, yeah, just just to be safe. Yes. To make sure that he doesn't show up. Like it. Absolutely. If every single person in on Planet Earth died right before the game and they needed one announcer and Darren Ravel is the last person

there, they still wouldn't let him. They would not let him set foot on there. I'm down for that. I caved like a bitch to NBC Gold. I was like, yeah, absolutely. Here's here's my $9. Not a footy fan. I've had NBC Gold for years.

Got to be. Got to. Yeah. You know what? I actually did. EPL. I did have NBC Gold. Now that I think about it, I didn't have the PGA Live, which is an extra add on

that. That's convenient. That's a convenient excuse for not being a footy fan. Come on. EPL is coming back actually. Wait, when is EPL? MLS is coming back too. Rivalry week.

Who cares? Who cares? Six weeks of rivalry week. That, um, that Galaxy guy who got fired or he got released. Neil deGrasse Tyson. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, LA Galaxy player got cut because his wife said racist things. Oh yeah.

I, I stared at that story for like two minutes and I couldn't even muster a feeling because I was like, I don't know. Like I don't fucking, who is this guy? I don't know. Yeah. To me, it felt like it was a player who was probably going to get cut anyways. And they're like, we're going to make a big deal out of this because we can also get a pat on the back.

Sometimes you'll, you'll say, oh, I don't care, but you obviously care underneath. I truly, I couldn't, I, I did some soul searching. I was like, what, what are feelings are you going through right now? And they were none. Yeah. Backup midfielders. Not even wife, right? It was like backup midfielders.

I was just like, I can't, I don't have a take. I don't know. I have no feeling. I couldn't muster a feeling. But shout out to, uh, to Adam Schefter for addressing another controversy in DNFL today. So the NFL announced that they were going to pay $250 million towards combating social justice over the course of the next 10 years. Right.

Now, if you're a cynic, you might say, Oh, that's $10 million less per year than what Roger Goodell makes personally. Right. But if you're Adam Schefter, you got to spin it a little bit. It was a great spin. That water. He goes, this should put down all the naysayers that don't think that the NFL is in this for the longterm.

So they, they're, they're spreading it out over the course of 10 years, not because it's easier to pay, but rather because they want to show that they're invested in the longterm. Like the bets or the, the Mets are invested in Bobby Benio for the longterm. That's why they signed a 30 year contract. Verbal meme. Uh, it's Roger Goodell and it's, we got him. And then in parentheses, racism.

We got him. Racism. Got him. God's ass. And then it's Adam Schefter quote tweeting that and saying, this is power. Yeah. This is, this means something from the, from the top of the, you know, top of the pyramid chain.

Um, that's, I, I, I missed that. I also, I, the one thing I did see you at the NFL is that the NFL is allowing them to protest. So is the protest now to not protest? Well, I, I thought the protest, like if someone says, Hey, go ahead and protest. It's not a protest. That's not a protest. You have to now, you have to now stand for the national anthem to protest the, the ability

like, no, you don't tell me what to do. I'm going to do the opposite. Like if there was the KKK lining up to also join the protest movement, then you're like, I can't be on that side. Right. They ruin the pro like the NFL has, that's not what a protest is when you're like, Hey guys, you're allowed to do this. Yes.

And I'm not saying that the NFL is a KKK. Obviously I'm just saying, I agree with you. You said it. I said, I said what I said. No backsies. Yeah. Absolutely no back. It's like when Jerry Jones took a knee.

Remember that people forget about Jerry Jones taking a knee during the national anthem back in 2016 or 17. That was so hilarious. When he's looking at the camera and he actually thought in that movement moment, like I just, I did it. Solved it. Solved racism. It's over.

Ray Lewis's knee still was the best. The double knee. Yeah. He was going to pass out. He was so drunk. He took one knee for the cause and then one knee for Jesus. Right. That's what he said.

Yeah. Right. And he looked so sweaty and hung over. That was, that feels like a fever dream to me. The Ray Lewis Jerry Jones taken a knee weekend. Oh my God. He took his knee. The fucking skycam was coming over.

Oh. And he timed it so that he looked up. He like winked. He winked and there was like a little sparkle that's shown on one of his teeth. Yes. Like there he is. Jerry Jones taking a knee. The only other news I had.

Well, there's two other pieces. Rob Manfred just lied to America during the MLB Draft and was like, I'm pretty sure the players are going to, are going to like come off of their, we want our salary stance. And that was totally to appease everyone. Clearly not going to happen. He said like a hundred percent playing baseball. Yeah. He basically was like, Hey, we're all like the draft is happening right now.

And this is probably the first time anyone's actually watched the MLB Draft. So we have to say all the right things, even if we don't mean them. Well, it's also a classic case of somebody just saying something that they hope will come true. Right. And we'll work back from that. Like, I know that we want to have a season, so I'm going to say we have a season. Therefore it sets the expectation that we're going to get there.

We're all invested in getting there. I'm surprised they didn't have like some, some kid like pulling a birthday cake as he blows out the candles away from him after that. Like we're going to have a season. Yeah. It's kids slowly bending over over the course of the next like three months to pick up a lacrosse stick. Yeah.

Like you can stop this at any time. It's the, yeah. It's the Neanderthals becoming humans are slowly becoming lacrosse players. And the other thing was Paul Feinbaum has run out of takes. So his take now is that Nick Saban is running out of time. Oh, like, like, like he's on the downside of his coaching career. Well, he's 69. Um, and he's going to be, he's going to be 69 this year.

So he's like, yeah, he's too old. Okay. So he's got the clock on Nick Saban, despite the fact that Alabama has been pretty good the last three years. Uh, yeah. Well, the other way, Alabama has won a title since 2017, Paul. Just Paul. It's also 64.

What? He's in Paul. Paul Feinbaum is not like, is Paul say, or is Paul Feinbaum starting to lose it? No, but I think he's probably like losing it and he's like, well, Saban, if I'm 64 and I'm losing it, Saban's got to be Paul McCartney's song made 64, like the last cool age to be because everyone's like, Oh, when I'm 64 and they do that whole thing. So he probably still thinks he's young. Yeah.

He's going to have a rude awakening. Also, it's good to just have somebody that's in the same profession of you who's five years older. That way you can never be the old guy. Right. And so he's pointing at Nick and being like, I'm not old. This guy's old. Right.

He's turning 69 and he's on the down side of his career. The clock's running out. Hasn't been doing that. Hasn't won a national title since 2017 and two in almost three years, almost three years at this point. All right. Fuck it. I like it.

I'm on board for that. Let's get the takes going. It's truly a I ran out of takes. So here it is. Let's test. Let's test. Let's dip our toes in the water. Guess what?

Water feels fine. Yeah. It feels great. Hop on in. All right. Let's do our fire fest. Should we start with Billy? Dementia ain't played nobody, pal.

Yeah. Go ahead, Billy. So I was driving into the city to get to work. So Billy's fire fest for people who are listening is just whatever happened most recently before he came to the office. Um, no, actually this happened last time I was here. So I was. It happens every time you come.

No. So, so I had to peek. So I was, I was hydrating all the way here and I was stuck in traffic. You drank water and you didn't pee before you left your house. So, um, I was, I was trying to, uh, so they shut down a street on the way, like on 30th by the office, the police shut it down for obvious reasons. So there was a huge traffic jam and I was like, I don't know, they're just shutting everything down.

So then, uh, I was like, I need a pee. Like I'm going to piss in my car if I don't pee. So like during the traffic jam, I opened the door and like grabbed the Gatorade bottle and I was like between the 32 ounce or 24. It was a 32 wide, wide, uh, wide mouth, wide mouth. Okay. So I think they're all the same size mouth, but still, um, so, uh, I was sort of one foot on the asphalt, one foot in the car looking like I was looking like looking like I was

like looking forward at something, but using it to pee into the bottle. Okay, Billy, I got a dumb question. Why did, why did you open up the door before you started peeing? I couldn't pee sitting down. What, where's the fire fest? So then this lady was walking by and goes, what are you looking at? No, Billy. So this part's made up.

No. I was like, Billy, you peed in a bottle. What do you mean you can't pee sitting down? You're in a car. I'm in a car. I'm in a car. He's too alpha. How are you not sitting down in a car?

How are you supposed to pee in a car? So I, so you, I just couldn't pee by the time I, I couldn't pee. I peed in the bottle and then someone was talking to me while I was peeing in the bottle. So there's one person left outside of the car. Outside of the car? Oh, okay. All right. I'll go next.

My fire fest is listening to that fucking story. That's pretty bad, Billy. Jesus Christ. I'm also moving, but it was that, actually, I'm like looking forward to my move tomorrow because I had to listen to that story and I want to get out of this for a minute. It's also more of a chore than it is a fire fest. Yeah, obviously, Billy, that's the most classic lie that you could possibly tell. When you say, when you say a story that's not going anywhere and then somebody asks

you what else happened, you're like, and then this chick was there. I was like talking to Mike Billy. Yeah. All right Hank. What's your firefest? That really was my firefest is listening to that My firefest is kind of just like a vacation hangover basically, but my girlfriend No, well you guys can I think relate to this in some way shape or form my girlfriend's still on vacation She also went before I did and I was like all clean the apartment before I go and then like it'll be clean when you're back Obviously, I I put off cleaning before I went until this week and then this week I've put off cleaning until now and now I'm like I have to do so much cleaning so much laundry And I've had like three weeks and I just wait until the last day question

And I would like your 100% honesty on this. Yes Have you at any point in these the week before the week after Done any light subtle or whatever shaming of Rhea for being on vacation. No, no none Absolutely none zero. You haven't you know, when are you getting back? Yeah. Oh seems nice Yeah, I'm like it looks awesome. I'm happy you're there like you don't have wait say that again. It looks awesome. I'm happy You're there. That's sarcastic. Uh-huh. Yep. I knew it looks awesome. I knew it Ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gun. I trust me big cat I am I will never shame anyone for vacation ever

But that's such a classic dad move like take your kids You're like your mom goes out of town for the weekend or she goes on a trip or something And then the dad's like, okay, we got 30 minutes till mom gets home We all need to pull together and clean this mess up. So you're gonna when's she coming back tomorrow morning? I think you think you better find out Dude, she's gonna call you when she's a block away. You're like, oh get rid of the cake Yeah, what yeah riskiness probably just have like a bunch of pizza boxes. Mm-hmm and laundry and laundry Yeah, you and actually like cardboard boxes. Yeah, it's kind of laundry looks it's there's a lot of shit

Pretty easy to just lie and get your way out and be like, oh, yeah for some reason they haven't called me back Yeah, the cleaners have had it for five days. Yeah, or just start the load Just put it in there. Mm-hmm. And I just went oh shit. I forgot to turn on PFC your fire my firefest. It's actually more of a shout out to the big Jays out there. They're covering the NBA It's really their firefest, but it is an actual firefest So the NBA is obviously gonna be doing their playoffs down in Orlando, Florida as well as the losers bracket for all the teams that didn't make the playoffs and They've agreed to host some journalists down there under the condition that they stay themselves

Quarantined in the same rooms same type of hotels that the players are they're not allowed to leave and come back So we're gonna get a bunch of journalists down there Yeah, a reporting on Orlando, Florida like it's the Sochi Olympics with wolves roaming through the hallways and yeah, like every single minor thing That's bad about their hotel room. I go there was a spider in my bathtub every podcast. I'm sorry I haven't seen my kids in a month exactly, but I mean to be honest with you being stuck in Orlando sounds pretty sweet Point of order July and August in Orlando sounds horrendous very very humid. Oh my god It's a swamp. They built a fucking city on a swamp and then put a put a fucking big golf ball in there

Yeah, you got Epcot though. Yeah, definitely Yeah, you have you have the character breakfast you can go to every day goofy is hanging out down there I'm also a kid that never went to Disney World So I think there's two camps like if you never went to Disney World as a kid You just have no feelings for it and then if you did you're like, oh my god, Disney World is the best You know what they should do they should just like fuck that. We're not gonna we're not spending our vacation at a theme park They should send the reporters kids down there and just have the reporters kids be the reporters Yeah, they would love that. Yes, like send kids down there. S. I for kids easy read

It'd be sweet as fire posters. Yeah. Yes. Oh really fire put faces in the crowd You know little trading cards to that they had you're like, oh, this is cool Yeah, there was who was the Rick Riley of SI for kids Probably were fell probably a seven year old posing as a seven year old This is too much for fell. Yeah, still about that last one every now and then when he posts is like like TBT the time that I Complain to like crazy nets for not having like enough crazy nets in the box And they sent me this letter like power of the letter guys. It's great lesson. Yeah, God damn it They should just they should have the reporters kids hanging out like being babysat by the players

Yes, and then turn that to content. Yes, James Harden like leaving them in a hot car outside of strip I'll be right back. All right, let's get to our interviews. We got some great stuff coming up We got Judd Apatow and then Kentucky Sports Radio best of before we get to Judd A couple weeks ago. I got a box of clothing from this actually, you know what? I'm going off script because I love free fly This is one of those Sponsors that I was buying free fly before they became a sponsor. I found it. I loved it It is the best clothes out there. They are really really comfortable shirts sweatshirts shorts anything you want. It's there Here's the background on them free fly was founded by a Montana fishing guide and two Nike marketers

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I'm interested to like what your reaction was just initially hearing our podcast for the first time Were you like these guys are idiots that can sometimes sound smart or these guys are kind of smart But they sound like morons. You know what? That's the right question That is the right question. Where did I land with your tone? Hmm and you know for me as someone who loves podcasts I'm a big podcast fan. The first thing I thought of was I would listen to this. I like it and I'm gonna I'm gonna subscribe and I'm gonna go deep. I like it. I like a good I like a good 20-minute conversation about Michael Jordan and did he really eat the pizza or is that a lie?

I'm all for this. Okay I we're gonna actually throw that question in later on the interview because you buttered us up So when people get to this point, they're gonna be like, oh, that's why everything's going so well All right, let me intro you though. It is Judd Apatow Filmmaker actor comedian. He has a new movie coming out June 12th. The King of Staten Island. We both watched it I loved it. I thought it was great We actually just had Bill Burron and I told him that it passed my test of do I am I still thinking about the movie the next day? And this one passed the test

My first question about this movie is What was it like doing a movie with Pete Davidson where it's kind of It is his life and you have to be sensitive to his life But also very funny which you pulled off Oh, I think when you do something like this, you have to be very respectful to the offering of Someone's life, you know, someone's like I might give you the truth of what I went through and you could Fictionalize it and use pieces of it and make up other stuff. You have to really care to do it. Well, and I I always just think man if If someone like Pete gives me their life as fodder and I screwed up and the movie sucks

That's awful. It'd be terrible to ruin someone's life So I feel it both is pressure and it's like an honor to to get it Well, you know when we did train wreck with Amy Schumer She talked a lot about her father having MS and that's the case in real life and How it affected her and her relationships and I was well aware that wow It's a big deal that she's willing to share that with me and I want to make a good Thoughtful funny movie with it. So it's both exciting and kind of scary when people will let you do that Yeah, I think you use the right word which is thoughtful and you've been pretty consistent over your career

You've made a lot of very funny things and you've also had a lot of things that you've produced and directed that have been a good Combination of very funny but also very thoughtful. Is there like a mix? That's the golden ratio when you're going into a movie like this one like King of Staten Island. Are you like, okay? We need it to be 30% Laughs and we need it to be 70% You know drama and moving the story forward making people think and maybe making people empathize with these characters or how do you balance that ratio? You know for me, it's just like if you're authentic and you're credible People are funny anyway, right? Like

You could if you're real people are weird like in real life people are just nuts So you can if you're telling you know a story about someone's life and some lesson they learned or how they got through something hard If you take it seriously, it's still gonna be Funny this brings us to the Michael Jordan eating a pizza during the NBA finals question What is funnier than that? Right? It's the highest stake thing in the world It's late at night. You're hungry. You get a pizza You refuse to share it with any of your friends and then you're sick all night and you have to play and you have to play your best While sick or it's a fake story

Mm-hmm. We don't know that now if it's a it is a fake story say that's the Michael Jordan cover-up for something else Which we don't know That's kind of hysterical too. Like how am I gonna get away with this other thing? I did can you just tell people I ate a bad pizza, right? So like everything in life no matter how high the stakes are on some level It's still pretty fun, right? If that's like what they settled on for being the big explanation What let's say he was hung over and he was you know puking his guts out

He was not feeling well to settle on like just go with a pizza angle on this is also very funny as like the big Like conspiracy that they cooked up behind the scenes Well, cuz what is it really? It's like I have a responsibility to my team. So this is a movie. That's a great beginning of a story I'm the I'm the lead guy. I have to be the best I yell at everyone if they don't work hard and if they break the rules I destroy them and then I make a mistake whatever the mistake turns out to be whether it's eating a pizza or Pretending to have eaten a pizza to cover up a mistake That's high comedy

Stakes and what would the end of that movie be having the best game of your life? While almost vomiting the entire time. Yeah getting a pizza deal an ad deal and then becoming the king of pizza in Utah Yeah, pop a blast. Yes. Yes. I'm speaking of guys at the door. Yes speaking of basketball and You just mentioned train wreck. Just how difficult was it to work with LeBron to work with LeBron? You know before LeBron came I asked people like how is it? How is it to work with LeBron because a lot of people, you know, who are not actors or actresses? They may not take it as seriously They may not understand, you know, what it means to be responsible when you're like the most important person in your world and

The truth is and it's not interesting at all LeBron showed up early every day Knowing his stuff having his own comedic idea is about it and when he was, you know, waiting in between things He never walked away and went in his trailer. He just hung out with us wall to wall During that entire shoot, which was five days. He was there Monday to Friday shooting all the scenes and we would just laugh Like we would laugh that like LeBron was there That just made us laugh like LeBron is here in this room with us and he's forced to talk to us like we're a bunch of comedy nerds and LeBron is hanging out with a bunch of weirdos us and

He's so polite and funny and he's kicking ass. So like to us was like one of the great Experiences I could only compare it to James Taylor was in funny people and We needed him to sing a song in this one sequence and just as a goof I Said, you know, I don't know what song to use Do you want to sing a whole bunch of songs and I'll figure it out in editing? And then we just forced him to sing about ten different songs for two days Only because we loved him right and we just couldn't believe he was there

We're like crying while he's singing all these songs and that's what it felt like with LeBron like oh my god Thank God. He's incredibly cool and he did crush it comedically. He had a real take on why that was that was funny Can you confirm that LeBron gave Amy the idea for her sketch that she used of just drinking one glass of wine out of the Gallon-sized wine glass It was not part of that conversation, but what was funny is that when LeBron did the scene where he plays basketball With Bill one was that he threw like the craziest like Full court, you know swish shot like the kind you see in the documentary about him Where he just throws it from all the way across the court and he goes in he did do that in front of us

But also just everyone in town just showed up, you know, it was like Babe Ruth was on the set Like children just started appearing and suddenly Chris Rock is there with his kids and like everyone just started appearing Because they just heard that LeBron was there. So I in in reading a little bit about you I mean we I've been a fan of yours for a long time and all the movies you've done But I didn't know this fact when you were 16 You had a radio show and you booked the guests like Jerry Seinfeld Jay Leno and Who else oh Gary Shanley how the hell did you pull that off one and how nervous were you to? Well, this was like 1983 1984

so this is before the internet before podcasts and I was obsessed with comedy and I wanted to talk to comics and There really was no way to talk to them and there were no long interviews There was no place where you could listen to someone that you looked up to for an hour and My friends started interviewing bands for our high school radio stations And so he interviewed R.A.M. And Susie and the banshees and people like that And then one day he's like you should just like do a show Oh, we'll just make up a show where you interview come next and that'll give you an excuse to call them and then I would call Them and I would never say that it was for a high school radio station

I always just said it was for a New York radio station and I would call their publicists and The other thing you have to remember is like back in 1983 84, you know when Jerry Seinfeld was, you know, just getting going No one wanted to talk to him like there weren't there wasn't a line of people trying to interview Jay Leno or People like that and so when I would call I think the PR people were happy to look like they were doing a good job Getting them some publicity and they didn't know it was complete BS It was just a high school radio station that barely got out of the parking lot And then I would show up with this huge tape recorder from the AV squad and they would always look at it and kind of laugh like Okay, now I got to do this

Like they were always a little bummed who and then I was such a nerd that I hopefully asked them questions They were Interesting. So you invented podcasts Kind of on on some level I was either trying to invent podcasting or the Charlie Rose show I was trying to invent something. Yes, that's fantastic though. I mean 16 and interviewing I'm always fascinated by people because you you obviously started stand-up comedy at 17 dropped out of college Did you just you just knew it? You just knew that's what you wanted to do and it was one focus one mind because a lot of people

Kind of float through life and don't find that one thing Were you just locked in at such an early age? You knew that was what you were going to do for life? I Think so, you know, I was a kid I was obsessed with like all the talk shows of when I was a kid Which was like the Merv Griffin show and Dinosaur then later Letterman hit the air and I loved the comics and in my head I thought oh, it'd be amazing and then Steve Martin hit and you know he was the Beyonce of comedy and you know in 1978 and that's when my dream was born and I Think I just pursued it really

Intensely my parents got divorced and I felt very unstable And I think my brain said you better get a job and you better work your ass off to be able to take care of yourself And so I think I had an irrational at 12 at 12. Yeah, well the 14 14 I had this feeling like learn to take care of yourself and It was somebody irrational But it was you know the gasoline that made me the kind of kid who would you know drive an hour and a half to Poughkeepsie to interview weird Al Yanko. Yeah, was there one comic at that age? Because I feel like that age is when people really start to open their eyes to what their future interests are going to be

You know for the rest of their life Was there one Comic that you saw that it was just like a holy shit moment like this is incredible. I'm obsessed with this now Well, Seinfeld was one this is before the TV show and I used to go see him at Carolines in New York back then Which was a small club. It was like 90 seats and and his act was just the perfect hour of Stand-up I used to see Leno and Gilbert Godfried Gilbert was one of my favorites I remember seeing Pee Wee Herman at the same club doing a version of stand-up comedy when I was a kid I think probably just as a young Jewish guy on Long Island

There were a lot of guys who were like me like Paul Reiser and I thought oh people like me get to do this You know, I think a lot of people they talk about diversity of voices in film and television and a lot of people like Camille Nonjani would say I never saw myself In anything and so I didn't think it was possible to do the things that I'm trying to do when I was little But I was the opposite everyone looked like me Carrie Shanling looked like me and I think it programmed me to think Oh, it's possible to do this and also I had a grandfather who produced Jazz and rock and he produced the first Janice Joplin record and he produced Ted Nugent, but he also produced Charlie Parker Oh, and he was a hustler and I just thought oh, I guess you just hustle. I guess you hustle and that's how you

Break in, you know, so I just started hustling for me a young age So you get your start by doing stand-up. You did a lot of writing too. I've always wondered about writing for Jim Carrie I read that you did some rewrites for a few of his scripts Is he the easiest person the world to write for or the most difficult person in the world to write comedy for well? he is the None of it is easy because he's so smart and he's so imaginative, but I'm not imaginative like Jim is and So in that sense, it's very hard because he's like Salvador Dali or something and and

It's hard to come up with those visions For him, but Jim and I you know are really good friends and when I was young We would spend a lot of time together and I just think I was a good hang You know, sometimes you're just you're not the most creative guy in the world But you're the kind of person that gets a creative person going. Yeah, I was a good audience I had a good sense of where if where he was going Was the right direction or not? I knew how to get him in a good mood and I did that for a lot of comedians when I was young

I wrote for Roseanne you know, I did a You know, I did writing for all sorts of you know people early in their careers and I was a kid I wrote for Shanley. I wrote the Grammys when I was in my early 20s But I always felt like I'm smart not pretty funny But I think I'm really good at pointing them in the direction where they will think of The greatest idea ever and a lot of my work With Jim was that, you know, he used to have me come to his house on the weekends to punch up movies like Bruce Almighty

or Liar liar But a lot of it was just he needed to do the rewrite and if I showed up he would do it Yeah, you know what I mean? Like he has an appointment with someone and I'm taking notes and asking questions and pitching a little bit But really it's to keep him organized. So so speaking of being a good hang I'm sure you've been in some rooms with just I mean you've been in many rooms with many fantastic comedians Is there one guy or girl who?

Is always kind of the alpha who makes everyone else laugh even a room that star studded that you're amazed at like that person Can command a room full of the funniest people in the world I mean there are certain people that just know how to Kill any room. I think kevin hart is like that I met kevin hart when he was really a young guy. I did a pilot with him in 2001 or 2002 It was a pilot who started him amy polar and jason seagull and judge rinnell and january jones

And it did not get picked up You know 19 18 19 years ago and we knew it like kevin's the guy You know and we we wanted that show to get picked up and then I had him on this tv show I did call him under clarity did a few episodes and he was in the 40 old virgin But he is the guy, you know, almost more than anyone if he's just in the mood to He could destroy in any room. Yeah, he's very funny. Yeah One of our favorite lines from kevin hart is when he goes I farted out of my heart. Did you did you enjoy that line also? I yield

kevin and romany were in 40 old virgin And there's a scene where they're like cursing each other out in the middle of the stereos tour Yep And you know in the movie it's kind of short, but on the the extended version of the movie. I let it go for like five minutes Yeah, and I just sat behind the monitor just watching them go so hard at each other But uh, yeah kevin is amazing. Do you uh, Still proudly wear cargo shorts because I know you had a little dute to do when you uh, throughout the first pitch with the

Met oh you got him on right now Did you expect that type of backlash? Oh, yeah, there they are. Did you expect those Nike shorts? Those are from the people at Nike. Do you do you expect the backlash when you wore the cargo shorts throughout the first pitch at the Met's game? Let me tell you it was so hot that day I I can't even tell you how hot it was So you decided you need extra pockets. You wanted extra pockets for how hot it was I you know, it was all about getting a little airflow going and all the undercarriage, but I never even considered wearing jeans. I'm like, I'm not going to Shea Stadium in 90 degree weather wearing jeans

That's not happening and I do not own any light slacks. So They asked me to throw out the first pitch Maybe like the date before or the you know two days before now I have not thrown a hardball since 7th 8th grade. I literally have not held a hardball I played maybe some softball over the years But like to throw a hardball had not happened

And when you try to practice that again after not doing it for decades You become aware of your mechanics Right. You say it's not muscle memory There's no muscle memory and then you're like, do you throw it over the top? Do you throw it on the side and I'm practicing and my arm is going out so fast from practicing And then I go and I practice in the basement of the stadium and they say Judd when you're on the mound You have to throw it higher because it's it's almost like an optical illusion. You'll throw it in the dirt You just throw high

And I got out there And I threw it straight which I was proud of because a lot of people have not thrown it straight But it hit the dirt and I will take that to my grave as a moment of humiliation That's tough, but nobody remembers that you bounced it because everyone just talks about the cargo shorts, right? Well, but they don't talk about as first of all Dwight Gooden was in the crowd Okay, and Keith Hernandez. There's a little too much uh too much pressure for me and Right before I did it. I said I want this either to be the worst anyone's ever done it Or I would like to do it perfectly. I do not want to do it in the middle

Yes, I don't want this to be kind of neither here nor there And I after I did it. I'm like, you know what? I think that was in the middle I don't think it was the worst throw ever but it wasn't great But then someone sent me a photo of it And I look like Jerry Lewis in the photo. I look so crazy that I said yes It was one of the worst ever and then I was so happy. That's great. That's great One thing I've always uh, I've always admired about you is that you have stayed very loyal to a large group of people For a very long time in Hollywood, which I imagine can't be easy

But I have to ask did you guys like sit down and make a pact in the late 90s and say This group right here. We're going to dominate Every single uh comedic movie that comes out of Hollywood for the next 30 years and we're keeping this all in house together You know when I lived with Sandler, which was the early 90s like 89 90 We all had a sense that Adam was going to be someone who did well And then we all knew Jim Carrey And so those are the two people that we thought

I think those are the people they're those are going to be the ones I didn't think I was really going to be the one I was very quickly losing confidence in myself being around people that felt like other level And then I met stiller around that time. I'm like, yeah stiller like those three seem to be The ones and then years later. I met Amy polar and I was like, I think she's the funniest person I've ever seen in my life when she used to go on Conan and playing in the Richter sister um, but for me, I loved all those freaks and geeks actors and actresses and I really had a sense that That they were great and that outside of the show they would be great and made a conscious choice to try to do something with as many of them as I could

and You know, I'm a loyal person. So I you know But I feel like our group has gotten larger over the years you know, we added Eric Banna during funny people and You know, this is every once in a while somebody you don't expect Appears in one of our things speaking of freaks and geeks When what's the sliding doors moment on that like so if freaks and geeks had not been cancelled It was a critical success

But you only got one season out of it if that stretches out five six seven eight years What is the ripple effect on just comedy in Hollywood? Like what goes down? Well, you know what we did after undeclared. There's no undeclared The next thing I did I produced anchor man. They they probably would have made it without me So they would have been a mutated anchor man. I'm sure it still would have been great Uh, and then the 40-year-old virgin. I mean, it's it's a domino effect of just people doing other things And uh, maybe better things. Who knows? I mean you you say it like it's all good

But maybe all those people would have had some completely different path and Turned into daniel day lewis and and meryl streep and I held them all back I was listening to a podcast you did with conan. I think it was about six months ago and you were talking about Uh having the day the type of day as a creative person where you felt like nothing was working And that you felt like a fraud And it dawned on me that if jud apatow one of the most accomplished guys in the comedy world Can have those days then we're all screwed Because we hope to one day have the success you have have how do you wrestle with that those days where you're like

I have all this success, but I don't feel like I belong and I feel like nothing else is gonna work ever again I think that you know sometimes, uh, you know, just nothing comes you know, like nothing comes that day You may say I want to work on this script and try to fix it And then you sit and like you're not funny and And you just have to know that that's part of it that it's really about You know getting your ass in the seat every day and hoping that you like you have good ideas And then sometimes you have a have bad moments, you know, you know, we were testing the king of statin island

And I couldn't seem to get the first act right. It just felt weird. I loved all the Scenes but it just felt weird and my wife Leslie man was like, I think you know the scene that you have where he's driving in the car You know that whole sequence probably should open the movie. I don't think it should happen 20 minutes and it seems like it should open the movie And I was like, you don't know what you're talking about. There's a whole reason why that's 20 minutes in the movie And she kept saying like you're making a mistake. It should be the opening and then literally three months later I still felt like the first acts weird

And I said to the editor, can you put that driving sequence as the open maybe let me just see what it is Let me see just so I could tell Leslie it's wrong And then it completely changed everything It's incredible first act suddenly made sense every scene was kind of Supercharged had more depth. You really understood who Pete was But you know, I had months where I was like Maybe I just screwed up this whole first act And so you're a lot of times you're just

Looking for some inspiration to hit and sometimes it never does it and you just make something bad And other times you figure it out I have to imagine that there have been some scripts that you've worked on that were Very very funny to write and you felt like you had something gold and you had all these great Setups all these great jokes and then when it translated to either television or the big screen It didn't work as well in real life as it did in your mind Is there a movie that that comes to mind that you've done that kind of fits that description? Well, a lot of the movies that like didn't do as well as other movies. I like some of times I'd like them more

I think they're weirder and I like, you know, like walk hard is a movie that made You know very little money, right? Uh, and I think it's one of the funniest ones of all the ones we did I don't know if people were dying for a movie which was a parody of walk the line and ray and all the music biopics But now that the music biopics are giant and the queen movie was so big People revisited walk hard and there were all these articles about how everything in the movie about queen Is already in walk hard like all the conventions of what's difficult about music biopics that makes them Not work a lot of the time and they and there was all these articles just saying looking back walk hard was awesome

So that's our favorite thing when you know, something feels dismissed at the time and then it seems to hold up 10 years later, I would say pop star it falls into that bucket too. It wasn't like a resounding success at the time That's one of the funniest movies. I've seen the last 20 years Yeah, those guys the lonely island guys are unbelievable And it is always a bummer when you don't have the box office you were hoping for And even with that one we had a sense like people are going to discover this on television like they did, you know The gruber which is another great one. Yeah And so you're both happy about it

But you're also kind of bummed because in a movie theater with a full house pop star just Crushed so hard. Yeah, and it is so good But the most the most important thing is you'd like for me if I'm at home and I'm scrolling through the channels Am I psyched when I see that my movie is on tv or am I embarrassed? And when you that's all you care about like if you see like a movie up there and you're like Oh man, someone's probably watching that right now. They're they're they're gonna have a little ride Like that's the thing that makes you happy about you just don't want to be ashamed of Putting out garbage, you know that you know you want something to make people happy even now everyone is home most of the time

People are really bored people are really down and and you know for me It just makes me feel like oh, maybe this was all worth it because I know there are people like Having a rough day and they're gonna put one of these things on and hopefully it gives them a You know a fun time for a couple hours. Yeah, so what's the ripple effect from here? Going to be like for comedy so like obviously all productions are stalled right now At least the ones that are set in the united states. Are we just not going to have movies for the first quarter of next year? I think that uh, yeah, it's going to be a little weird like for us there. They were like You want to wait a year to have the movie come out?

And I was like no, I mean it's done I'm like I'm not the kind of person that could have it like sitting on the shelf For a year and I said, you know, it's kind of about what's happening. I think it should come out now Let's just like get it out there. You know, this is about what people are experiencing and and uh, but yeah, it's gonna be a weird there's gonna be a moment when we're like Aren't there supposed to be more movies right now? Right? I think that there'll be a like a Backlog in the spring or the summer if the theaters are all open and Cranking where there'll be like tons of movies and then maybe next fall like fall 2021

There's no movies Yeah, do you think that some studios just have real pieces of shit saved up that they thought were never good enough to release? Five years ago six years ago that they're like, you know what? Fuck it. Let's put it in there. Yeah men in black 19 Well, you know the truth is just so many great movies that people have not seen in the movie theaters Like you could pick a hundred of the best movies of all time and just go We're gonna put godfather 2 in the theaters on 2000 screens and it would be the best thing ever So maybe they'll come up with some creative way to introduce people to all sorts of amazing movies that they never got to see Well, um

We have a movie. We do. Yeah, do are we gonna pitch them? I don't know. I feel like we should we already have We've got most of your friends that are already loosely attached. Yeah, adam sandler has been loosely attached We have to create roles for his wife and his kids. Oh, yeah, okay Do you want to hear our movie pitch? Of course. I want to hear the pitch. Let me hear it Maybe a little more enthusiasm when you say that I'd love to hear this pitch. Give me all you got. Okay. It's called boner dog It's a dog with a boner Okay, that's basically it it gets lost and then it comes back because the boner It's drags snow and everyone it's kind of rude off the red nose reindeer

Meets what was the other thing meets hands on dreddle meets Debbie does Dallas everyone's like, oh, no This dog's got a boner. It'll never be good for anything and then the dog's like actually I'm a very good sled dog because you can use my boner as the north star to find our way back home when we get lost In the snow and and adam sandler's involved. I think we gave the role the voice of the boners to will ferrell Yeah, david spade is is involved as well toe for grace. Yeah, um, zack effron actually is a definite. Yes. Yeah hard. Yes Hard yes, not no pun intended. I have a question. Yeah, what if what if the dog gets sad? And loses his boner that's yeah, that's the uh the second act right there. Yeah, that's exactly it This is what I would do as a producer. Okay punch it up a little bit deep and figure out

What is the emotion that leads to the lack of the erection and then? How does he get the erection back? Maybe maybe maybe he's running through the snow And then he sees like on on a tree It's just a big box score with everyone's batting average And he loses the boner right away because he starts reading that like the old trick of like Let me go through a batting lineup so that I can maybe not ejaculate too quick You know what I would say if we I was producing I'd say I like that but let's come up Other versions of why he would lose his boner. Let's really think about the psychology of why he had the blue in the first

Too much whiskey. He drank too much whiskey. He they were given away Wow, it was one dollar long island ice teas at the local bar boom boner gone Why does he need to drink what hurt him? Because he's upset that everyone makes fun of him for having a boner. Yeah Yeah, I like that. I like that. See we're cracking it. Okay, B by B. We crack this story So it sounds like you're in well, you actually already are in you've tweaked the script. So we're gonna put you Writing credit. Yeah, and we're at animated. You can't do it live action. We do animated We can have this in theaters by november. Yes easy. Yes and adam sandler said that if he doesn't get an oscar for uncut gems

He's gonna make the worst movie possible boom boner dogs I feel like we've just packaged it. Okay. Okay, and he gets it back because they he drives the sled off a cliff and like a Bad snowstorm it lands in the ocean and everyone's going to drown He accidentally inhales some oysters Which boom rush of blood boners back and then somebody from the shore Cast a line into the ocean and hooks his boner and then they lift him back up by by his red lipstick Well, at least we know the end work. So we don't have to work on that part. Right. Yeah work on the second act turn

Right. Okay. Second act turn. Okay. Yes. That's what I was going to say too. Yes. We're definitely do that I had one last question Your uh in king of statin island and also in other movies you've had you've had your own family How hard is it to direct your own family? Is it I would imagine There's got to be moments where you're like This is kind of weird because now we've got to go home and eat dinner together And I didn't like something you did in front of you know the cameras. Well, you know I like that they have to listen to me

Okay, I'm generally powerless as a person in the house And so it is the one place where they have to listen to me I you know, I haven't worked with most of them in a long time. This is 40 was 2012 so I actually haven't worked with anyone in the family other than iris iris was in love our tv show on netflix and so mod I hadn't worked with actually as an actress like on the set Nine years and now, you know, she's been in euphoria and that tv show hollywood and now she kind of knows what she's uh She's doing when she was a kid. I would just like you know Seatbelcher into a seat at the kitchen table and put bacon in front of her and just, you know, torture her and that's you know

What the scenes were this was actual Act thing and it was it was super fun We actually have a really good time doing it and she plays pete's Sister and is the one that gets to really tell him off and tell him everything that he's Doing which is a Painful for her. Yeah, and so yeah, we had a good time. Yeah, that's great. Well, I really enjoyed the movie I hope people go see it because it's it's uh, definitely a good watch It's an interesting story because I have to imagine you are taking pete davidson's life

And a big part of the comedy and a big part of things that push the movie forward Is that his character in this movie can be kind of an asshole sometimes? And you have to like you have to take that bit of his life and be like, okay, pete We're going to make you an asshole in this movie because that's what you said that you're like But we're also going to make it funny. Was that ever awkward where you're like, hey pete be more of an asshole Well, sometimes people go like, oh man, I am just awful in this scene. I'm just a nightmare But I feel like a lot of good comedy, you know is You know people are terrible. They learn how to be less terrible. I don't know if you remember the beginning of stripes

It's like bill murray and the woman's yelling at him and he's the cab driver and he stops the cab On the middle of the bridge and he tosses the keys into the into the river You know, that's like how comedies start, you know, usually it is someone who's kind of a brat or You know acting out in some way So I always think the worst the better Uh in the beginning like when you've got the boner dog in the beginning. He's not a nice boner dog Yep, Danny learns to be nice. Yep I like so now we've got some growth now. We've got some growth really helped us. You've really sparked it

You have been our inspiration today This is it. This is what you know, I did one of those master classes I think you guys Watch it and apply all of it to your draft. You are a good hang. You're absolutely right You've got the creative people's brains going over here. Yeah You guys in this situation are the Jim Carrey and I'm the judge. Yeah, wow Uh, all right, uh, thank you so much. Oh last question. Um, if you could go back in time We're talking about freaks and geeks doing a sliding door. Would you still vote for trump?

Would I still vote for him like I did? Yeah Yeah You know what that secret vote I did for trump and told my family, uh, you know I'd have to like see how the next few months go. Okay. Yeah, how it all works out Yeah, he's learning on the job right now. So who knows, you know, he's he's getting there. It's a learning curve This is certainly a learning curve Happening I've learned never say never in life. So you wouldn't totally take back your vote. I got it. That's fair Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, you know, because you get pence, you know, and that was always

Like the big plus for me easy icing on the cake. Yeah Um, all right. Well, Judd, thank you so much. Go see king of statin island, uh, june 12th What's the deal or can people buy it at home? It's going to be a rental Uh, so you can rent it for a few days starting june 12th And then I guess, you know, a couple of months later you can buy it and then we'll have the all the extras and stuff Uh, come out then. All right. Love it. Oscar buzz. There's Oscar buzz around it Let me tell you something. If I can't win an Oscar this year when there's no movies I have no chance. Well, we started the Oscar buzz. The only Oscar buzz we've heard is just when we interviewed bill burr earlier

And we said, hey, there's Oscar buzz. So that counts though. Let me tell you something. You are in the media So don't think your buzz is not real. We control the media. Yeah, there is Oscar buzz. Yeah for your consideration King of statin island best director best Screenplay best acting bill burr best new movie I saw this year I'm telling you if I if I can get a gold globe out of this, I am out of this game Best kiss the mtv video awards if they still do that best kiss bill burr Blockbuster award out of this. I don't know what yeah Coolest that they coolest that anyone's looked smoking weed since pineapple express. Good point

So all I'm trying to do I'm old. I'm just trying to turn this whole career into a weed company. Hasn't happened yet Uh, all right, man. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you. Judd. All right. Thanks guys. That's fun Judd Apatow is brought to you guys by our great friends over at shady rays. I'm wearing my shady rays right now They are the official Sunglasses sponsor of part of my take. We've been waiting for years to get one We finally do and shady rays are selling like do we say selling like hotcakes anymore? Or do hotcakes sell? Yes, what's the popular thing amongst the kids these days? They're selling like they're selling like anything with a supreme

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I want to know how kentucky handles things before I deal with the canadians. Give me a call tj I want to know how to make them pay lines are full. Let's go to jordan Jordan, what's up? Yeah, what's going on? Hey, jordan, where you calling from? Uh, possum truck kentucky. Oh, love it. All right, jordan. How you doing man? What's up? What's cooking? What do you got? Well, I had two questions for y'all Okay, uh, first of all, what was it like actually interviewing the undertaker?

It was spooky. Yes. I mean that guy I mean, it's like he's not even a real guy, you know, yes So Yes, that that's what that's what happens when the undertaker is around he just comes back to life places Jordan, did you agree with me? You obviously sound like your big wrestling fan. I love wrestling Did you agree with me that someday the undertaker will actually die? But I won't think he's dead forever. Like they'll be in 50 years from now. I'll be like the undertaker's about to come back Oh, yeah, I'm just going to explain. They regret so many of the here the

Don, you know, yes. Yes. And then what was your second question? um, my second question was Would you rather have permanent cheeto fingers or have a popcorn kernel permanently stuck in your tooth? I'm going to go cheeto fingers To me. Thank you. Thank you so much, jordan. Thank you. That was my favorite. I'll hang up and listen Uh, of all time being like I want my cheeto question answered, but I'll hang up and take my answer off air Yes, I'm going to go with the cheeto fingers because one you can always lick your fingers. That's delicious If that's not a problem, they lick them and they keep coming back. That's gotta be annoying. I agree with you

I would go cheeto fingers. Yeah cheeto fingers to me is like a bonus. That's a good thing the kernel between the teeth That's one of the worst feelings of all ever. Yeah, you can't get rid of it It it stays around for like three days at a time. It's um, there's no win out of that one So I'm going to take I'm going to take the cheeto fingers easily riko Riko riko. Uh-oh. Yeah, riko from from up north in in covington sone stroll from Cincinnati. How y'all guys doing? What are you doing riko? Come on. What are you doing? Don't insult our intelligence? Coach Doug, you know, you go to these clinics. I'm wondering you're in lexington All you weren't are you a managing getting from stuff from jonk al-parry by how to manage the cat?

Are you learning how to pay the players? Is this a parody account? He's been playing pairs for years Two of them vacated. I counted. No, this is real riko Real riko doing a fake accent. Who's riko? Riko I'm from lexington. We're from covington. Cobbingsons one of the earliest What's what's awesome about this call right now is I'm sure that riko has an entire sheet in front of them That he's written out about like his bio his fake riko bio. Yeah, I've been going up to same areas, but seals explain what my matter

If coach Doug is learning from that jonk al-parry by how to pay the player manage the cat What riko, uh, which who's your favorite coach? Who's my favorite coach my favorite coach is the man who defended the country? Okay, so you don't think he pays the players at all Absolutely not players graduate jonk al-parry is running a one and done factory. Maybe that's what you're doing Wait, coach k is graduated There's like mel kipersy being in there. Yeah riko is calling from the year 2002 Before coach riko. What's your favorite? Give me one last one last question. What's your favorite place to eat in lexington?

My favorite place to eat lexington is uh that papa johns y'all man All right, they got the good garlic butter. All right. I got some cousins up in in brooklyn. They talk about the farra I've never been that far All right riko from covington. Thank you so much for finish hour one. It's good to get a flavor of the real Kentucky is all right. What do we got next call? Let's go to dillbert dillbert. That's dillbert. That's a fake name, right? No, no, no, no guys i'm from i'm from place called corbin kentucky. It's in southeastern kentucky Okay, dillbert. Good to hear from you. A couple quick facts. Yep. We're the home of the first ksc

Okay, uh, you guys need to come down here. I don't know if you're ever down here It's it's amazing. Basically it's the same food that comes from wherever it does in corporate, but it's a neat little building um, so we're the home first ksc We become a concession colonel you basically just have to know somebody I mean, I don't mean to to really talk bad about any concession colonels, but it ain't that big a deal just be honest with you because I know some I know some guys that Uh, you know that should not have that honor, but they've got it because they knew somebody they got some paper signs So it ain't that big a deal. You got to know somebody that knows somebody. I like it

I'm gonna look up and see who the kentucky colonels are and see if I know somebody. Okay. What else you got dillbert Well, I got one question. Yeah, it's something that I've done. Okay Two things I've done. Would you rather Step in dog poop Barefoot with both feet and have to stay that way for several hours or would you rather help birth a calf? Where you got to get your hands all up and personal in the cow. Uh, and uh, because it's it's a messy I don't know if you've seen it. Uh, it's a messy experience But what would you rather do if you had to do one of those two and I'm gonna hang up

No, no, no, no, no, dillbert. You do not hang up. Do not hang up. Okay. What okay? I'll stay on here Why why did you have to stand in dog poop for multiple hours several hours on in? Well, no, no, no, it's so so I used to you know I mean, I don't mean to be stereotypical or anything, but I I used to run around my shoes off a lot I live kind of up in the country and and uh, we you know, we had dogs and stuff up on the property and uh I was running and chasing one and I stepped in Just the biggest pile of dog crap you've ever I mean, it was amazing. It was I was squished in your toes. It was pretty nasty but I was uh

I was kind of left alone and so I went down to the pond and tried to wash my feet off But it just wouldn't come on. It was like it was nasty and I stayed that way for about three four hours before I could take a shower and then um And then birthing the calf my papa had a had a cow farm and uh, there was a calf that was That the cow mama cow would have died if we didn't help and and he felt like it was a time to kind of teach the grandson something And so I mean I don't know if you've seen city flickers the first one where billy crystal kind of goes up in there and pulls out that calf And that was a real thing. He actually lost his watch up in there. It was just kind of a funny thing

But anyways, uh, it's a messy experience and everybody's nasty Uh, but both of them are gross experiences. Um, I think at least with the calf coming out You got a baby cow to look at there's kind of cute, you know, man It's neat and they grow up now can they walk right when you pull them out? Did you just pull them out and put them on the ground? They they're a little bit wobbly they look like they've had several things to drink Maybe eating some rotten apples or something. I mean because they kind of wobbled their legs are real flimsy But you know, they grow up big cows. You can kill later for a steak and that's what we do

You know, I mean just what we do And uh, so I mean at least you got that that's kind of a it's kind of like when you tell a woman You've had a kidney stone and they said well, have you had birth and you say no But at least you got a baby to show for it. All I had was a stone that I passed Yeah, I've said that a few times. I mean if you're walking around with with dog poop in between your toes It's gross, but when you help birth a calf, there's at least a life that you're looking at even if you get nasty You know what I mean? I love it. It's also It's a great pickup line to use. Yeah, which is like hey

I've helped a mama cow give birth to a cute little baby and I reckon there's probably no way that you can do a C-section on the cow either is it? Yeah No, you'd probably kill the mama. You don't want to do that unless he's rubbing unless he's fattened up Yeah, she's ready for the slaughter. You know what I mean, but I'd like to hear what you got I mean, yeah, you had to choose that. What would you choose? I think I'd go with the cow because what you said Dilbert I have one last question. Are you uh interesting name are you One of many Dilberts is the long line of Dilberts

No, no, no, no, no. I mom and dad so well, you know, there was that old uh that old cartoon script Yep, my my dad my dad was a heavy drinker and he used to read that when he was a kid when he started drinking And he's just like Dilburton. I thought it was a joke be honest with you when I was growing up I got me fun up a lot when I was growing up because that comic strip But I think that's what happened. I think dad was just he was just wasted and told my mom, you know Mom she had a rough delivery with me. I was a big old baby. I was a fat kid and uh, and they said they didn't have my name Picked out and here I come and dad says I want him to be named Dilburton. So it just kind of stuck and it's been I mean, it's been tough, but you know, there's not a lot of Dilburts around. You know, it's growing on me

So it's growing on me. I like it. Have you ever gone by anything but Dilbert like dilly or burt or it's always just been Dilbert Well, uh, Shannon would have to hit the dump button if I told you what they called me when I was a kid I would sleep that but but but Dilbert's been pretty much stuck because I mean I played baseball and stuff too And it used to be so funny when they'd call me over the intercom They're right now bat number four Dilbert and and people would laugh like it was I mean, it was a little bit embarrassing, but you know, hey in college it kind of stuck and and now I just go with it I'm proud, you know, I'm proud of it. Just like I'm proud of my accent where I'm from You know as long as I can, you know speak

Grammatically correct and everything and not sound too dumb It's just because I sound like a hit that means that I don't know what's going on And so I don't know it's just it's been one of those things guys. I mean, uh, you know When I have grandkids someday they might call me something different, but right now Dilbert's gonna be fine I love it. I I think you got a great outlook on life and it sounds like part of that is uh being named Dilbert night It's grown on me of over the course of this call. I have one last question You said you mentioned that you're a big baby. How many how many pounds did you weigh when you're born? I was just over 10 pounds. Wow

I look like a funny that my my mama said Because I was in the nursery with a bunch of little kids and there were a couple premature babies and stuff No, I know actually couple of them grit with them. We're doing good because we share our same birthday, but uh, My mom joked and said the doctor uh, when they looked at me they said looks like uh, looks like you had twins and he ate the other one I mean, I was that big I had tens for days. I mean, I was I was a big old kid. I was a big old kid, but Well, I'm not too big man. I'm right about 200 pounds about 508, you know, probably not the ideal body weight I got a dad bar and I'm you know happy. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm getting through. I'm good

That's Danny woodhead size. That is the ideals. I might not like it, but that's the ideal male physical form Dilbert, thank you for the call. This has been our best call of the day. Do we have something we can give him? Let's give him satisfaction for best call of the day Dilbert. You just won satisfaction my friend Yeah Yeah, Dilbert be more like Dilbert Dilbert go Dilbert go If the entire world had to say that what Dilbert had we'd been a much better place You just let everyone know that you won satisfaction for part of my takeover on ksr today Dancing over here, bro. I appreciate you guys have fun. Thanks. Thanks Dilbert

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Slash pmt Okay, let's uh finish up the show We have our documentary review of the week lance Lance Lance Armstrong is an asshole and he's does he's not actually uh, sorry is the actual title of it. Um, no, I think that that is Watching this The the greater picture the biggest question I had going away from it is Does who the fuck does lance armstrong think he's fooling to be like remorseful?

He's not remorseful. He's not he's at all. You know what he's done is he's realized he's He's the most self-centered person. I think I've ever seen like that's not really an exaggeration I think he's the most selfish person in the world But he's reached the point in his life where he's had to confront what a dick that he's been in public So many times that the best way that he can come out of this His grand master plan for feeling better about himself is to make a documentary where he's like Yes, I'm an asshole, right, but let's make a big documentary about me being an asshole Yeah, another run another run around the uh track of me of me the spotlight being on me because that's really what it comes down to is that he

uh Anytime someone has to apologize the amount of times he has None of them are real like it's the quarter like if you have six apologies you have none He apologized to opera in uh, whatever it was 2013. He then did a re-apology in 2018 being like, oh, yeah That apology wasn't really real like it didn't really work He's apologizing like he is a guy who Does not give a fuck that he is a complete

An unrepentant asshole yet at the same time. This is the problem that I have with Lance Armstrong He still wants us to love him and he like there is a part because you can't deny the cancer research You can't deny that he's done some great things But he he wants to have his cake you need to he wants to be the asshole The when it all costs guy like yeah, I'm doping, but everyone was doping which is true for bicell. Yes, but He also wants us to be like we love you Lance He has reached the point in his life where he has like He's gradually pulling back from all the lies that he's told right and he's never once come absolutely clean

Given what 10 11 public apologies that he's had So why am I going to think that this apology is admitting it? He actually reminds me a lot of pete rose in the way that he deals with things where he once he's like caught red-handed He'll admit something and maybe he'll give you like a little bit past what you already know about right But then you ask him well What about all this other stuff and then he'll put up like one block or be like no I never did that It's so when he when he was talking about the lady that came into his hospital room Who testified that like Lance openly admitted that he was using he is still hanging on to the fact that like that conversation never happened

Right still hates floyd landis still like he he It's actually kind of in a weird way the way you just explained it. It's genius that he has So many lies that he can basically Like release apologize for one every couple years and keep his relevancy. That's what he's doing and He has done great things like his charity did great things. Everyone remembers lives strong My problem is if he was a cheater In a sport like that that is just rampant with cheating I'd have no problem if he was like I cheated. Yeah

It's the fact even if he lied about cheating and then someday came clean I'd have no problem. No problem. It's the fact that he's so like litigious and and and uh aggressive towards anyone who tries to tell the truth That's what makes him an asshole implying that lady that who was she was in charge of like giving the cyclist massages on the Recovery days to help them be able to take on the next time trial or whatever he implied that she was a whore Right because he was a prostitute right he goes after these instead of being like Either shutting his mouth because she was telling the truth in the interview that she did he could have just not said anything Instead he responded be like yeah, you know what she did a lot of inappropriate things with those cyclists

But I don't want to get into all that right with with lance. He he ruins other people's lives Right instead of having somebody slightly damage his own and and I have a question for you Go ahead. Sorry. No, I was just I was going to say like It's almost perfect because he He found a perfect enemy in cancer, right? I want to unleash the most ruthless asshole in the world on cancer I think most of us would be like yes Whatever it takes we'll try to defeat cancer because it kills so many people per year So having having Lance Armstrong

Dedicate his life and and and focusing his assholeness on cancer was actually a great thing because of this one guy I would say probably 10 million lives maybe more have been saved and like dozens more millions have been like Greatly improved while they fought cancer. So yes, he's a huge asshole But at the same time if he wasn't such an asshole Maybe we wouldn't be as far advanced in terms of cancer research The other thing I was thinking about in this documentary and we'll get uh, billy's thoughts in a second here. Um I was thinking about because it came out in the proximity

The last dance in lance and like the being an asshole and I I I don't think michael jordan is anywhere near the asshole that lance armstrong is Uh, even close, but there is also an element of It's it's very uh, you're really out on your own when you play an individual sport I know there's teams in in biking, but I wonder if lance armstrong wasn't In that type of sport if he played football if he played basketball if he had the the team Victories and was a dick to his teammates would we see him differently?

Because I think it's that idea that you are like solely out there. You get all the fucking Accolades you get all the you're the best ever. It's not a team sport. So when it comes the other way We're gonna rip you and tear you down kind of like tiger woods like we're going to destroy you. Yeah, I think With lance's teams, they only existed to help lance and I think that's every relationship that he has in his life If you saw the different people they were interviewing in that movie They were like nine or ten different subjects where the bottom line of the screen said their name and then their description was Former business associate of lance armstrong from like various businesses that he was in None of them were like current employees of lance none of them were like current coworker lance

None of them were like current best friend. They were all like former I think lance sees everybody in his orbit as being there to serve him and in bicycling Your team is quite literally there to serve right the number one person Right So like you can't you can't act the same way in a team sport in a real team sport as you do in bicycling Even if you do technically have teammates But like Even his current wife or girlfriend whoever it was like you could see his interactions with her

He was Just there because he likes how she makes him feel about himself. Right, right Hank did you have any thoughts before we finish with billy's because I'm sure they're great Yeah, there's I had a few thoughts I thought the I thought the the dad stuff was like very very interesting in the sense that like it I can't imagine how complicated that it is or it's like you're named after this guy Who's not your dad and like he wasn't you know what I mean? Like it was it was a weird thing where he's like trying to decide what his last name even was

um The fact that he was as good as he was when he was 15 People that say like steroids. He's a cheater. It's like he was winning triathlons when he was 15 He's really the best the best clearly the best athlete We're gonna talk about sosa maguire like and berry bonds and like all the you you there is steroids can make you But he was better, but you you're still better than everyone else regardless And I think to your point uh talking about the last dance too and how lance obsessed with himself Like the interviews the amount of interviews like michael jordan

They were basically cutting from the interview he did like he did like two or three interviews He sat down twice. He sat down twice They had like 35 different angles of interviews with lance armstrong Like he they he must have been like all right. Okay. Let's do another take guys. Yeah, let's do let's do another shoot Like we got to do a whole whole new shoot like there were also Running around his town in colorado or whatever just like yeah having having a camera crew in a car Follow him while he's jogging through the streets. There were tons of those Yeah, yeah, it was very much like still a shrine to lance

I think he just reached the point where he doesn't care that uh a lot of people think that he's an asshole Or at least that's what he tells himself. Oh, I think he's he's moved into the Lance You you're looking in the mirror in the morning. You don't care what the assholes think but you're going to think about them all day Right, right. You're going to think about everybody else. I also think I also was thinking after the mj documentary and like the fact that Brady's doing one the there's going to be in about like three or four years the oversaturation of athlete made athlete documentaries is going to It's going to be tough because it's just tough when it's slanted. You can just tell when it's like Billy

Let me see your phone record. It's not it wasn't a filmmaker making lance armstrong documentary They also didn't say why they dropped that final federal investigation. Yeah, they kind of glossed that over It's like well lance made a couple important phone calls And that's that now that's the thing that lance is currently lying about Is why the the feds just dropped the case entirely that'll be another apology three years another opera interview Is this a text yourself? Yeah, no, it's not it's thanks to myself. You put yourself in as king That was in high school. Okay. You're not in high school anymore I want to hear what you thought about documentary without any of these notes

Um, it was really interesting to see the psyche behind such a competitor and sort of hear about uh The preparation that's not the most that's not at all. No, no keep going. I want the most generalized I mean in the lengths you would take Right up your alley I Don't have I watched Icarus. Okay. So what do you think about that with lance?

No, no, so that I researched all the steroids he did and it's actually kind of interesting because They're not steroids or pd's in the traditional sense that that you know, the layman knows steroids They're not performance enhancing drugs. Yeah. Well, they're not like let's open. Yeah. Well, they're not muscle They don't make your muscles bigger or make you stronger. The stuff that he was doing was epo Which is something your body secretes when you're like have um Pre-com. Yeah. No, no, uh Frostbite so like it's trying to get your body secretes this chemical when you get frostbite to push oxygen To your regions of your body that don't have oxygen or about to fall off

So and then he also did another compound which I forget the name of right now, but it's extracted from calves blood Which is another That's our show. I love the billy's whole takeaway was I didn't watch it, but also dude Can I tell you guys about more steroid? To be fair, billy came into the office and he was like, I'm gonna watch it on double speed I was like billy, it's not a podcast. You can't you can't fast forward it. You can't listen What does that mean? You can do that on youtube. Oh my god. All right next week. We're gonna watch something on youtube The documentary

One other thing I had on here Do you remember that that clip in this documentary where they had all the bicyclists talking about how dangerous the tour de france was? That's what I'm really showing you bike crash How deadly it is and how if you make one false move, yes, you're gonna meet your maker like instantly Yes, how many how many deaths do you think have taken place in the tour de france since it started in 1903? I don't know. They didn't show us any yeah 117 years of bicycling 330 or 5 5 and

The first one was a guy that went swimming in the Mediterranean sea on an off day and he had a hard time or whatever That's why he's probably blood-doping. Yeah, probably so jacked up on snare One other guy was probably doing coke during the tour they talked about how they used to do bumps during the bike race Now that's cool. That's what a way to go that is more dangerous than sterile. It's actually so there have been There have been 27 spectators that have died and three cyclists that have died So it's more dangerous to not ride in the tour de france than it is to ride in the tour de france. Think about think about the road rash That's true. They didn't think about that the chafing. Yeah, he also used PTSD from road rash

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