Pardon My Take - Julian Edelman, Bruce Arians In Studio, The Dodgers Win The World Series, The Jets Are Back + Week 9 Picks And Preview

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

The Jets are back after winning Thursday Night Football in the ugliest fashion (00:00:00-00:14:12). The Dodgers are World Series Champions after an all time meltdown from the Yankees in Game 5 (00:14:12-00:28:41). Week 9 Picks and Preview for every game on Sunday, Flacco in primetime, Cowboys last stand, and fantasy fuccbois (00:28:41-01:29:41). Julian Edelman joins the show to talk ball, his new podcast, what a dude is, and tons more (01:29:41-02:09:16). SB Winning Head Coach Bruce Arians joins the show in studio to talk about coaching, quarterback development, Big Ben getting mad at him, Peyton's rookie season and more (02:09:16-02:51:23). We finish with a Halloweeen edition of Fyre Fest of the week (02:51:23-03:03:26).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Whereas a Kimi fair bear missed a field goal from 27, but the jets have won a game. The jets are three and six. I can't believe it. They're such a bad team, but they're three and six and someone in this room is thinks they're all the way back. I know they're all the way back. I think the jets are going to win three straight right now. I think, I think we're going to turn around and the jets are going to be, they're going to be six and six. Uh, it's the cayenne water.

I'm going to start having to put cayenne pepper in my water. I told you on, on Tuesday night when we were recording, I said, I think I'm going to take the jets, the dark uniforms, the color rush, neon black uniforms. They're do everyone thought I was dumb. Well, maybe I was just dumb enough to be right. Listen, I, I came around, I bet on them. I was just like, I put on my Bowser costume. I said the jets are the pick. Uh, I, it made no sense. They shouldn't be favored over anyone. They are a torturous watch. Torturous watch except for, except for Garrett Wilson's incredible. That catch

was incredible. The shin catch, uh, the body control he had, he is so, so good, but yeah, everything else about the jets is an absolute, like even how they started the game where it was, uh, I think the first play of the game was just, Hey, Devante Adams, Aaron Rogers, those guys know each other. They live together. They, they just, they, they can think on the same wavelength, air, uh, Devante Adams streaking down the sideline wide open and Aaron Rogers throws it like he basically hits the water cooler and then looks at Devante Adams. Like he made the mistake. That wasn't torture. It was an incredible catch, though.

One of the best catches of the year, if not the best catch of the year. I want to kick it over to our good friend Nick Fasoli. He's always doing his job here at Barcelo Sports. He had an interesting comment about it. I thought maybe we could discuss. He said this tops Odell's 100% best catch ever. Ever. Best catch ever. A prisoner of the moment. Maybe had a couple beers watching Thursday night football or is this an accurate take by a good friend for solely. It was a pretty incredible catch. I, I we've talked

about a million times, but like the one thing NFL players are so good at so many different things are so fast. They're so many different things are so fast, so strong, they're so skilled, but the body control like that for Garrett Wilson's whole momentum to go backwards in that moment and be able to get a body part down. You could, you could try to do that a hundred times in the end zone and you would probably break every bone in your body trying to do it and you'd never accomplish it. That was just, it's so out of the, out of the, like, it's so insane what, what NFL players are able to do. And yes, that catch, and then maybe not best ever, but it was pretty goddamn good. It was a pretty good catch. And yeah, it would

go like your toes break, then your foot breaks, then your ankle breaks, then your shin break, then your knee breaks. And I don't know how NFL players do this from time to time But how does the shin even hit the ground before the knee hits? I look down on cat my shin and my knee and I think to myself like I would I would dislocate Everything from my waist down if I could get my shin down before my knee It doesn't even seem possible. But yeah, it was a great catch. I have a question for you guys though about we saw the Deshaun Jackson play. Deshaun Jackson did this like three times and nobody had ever done it before Deshaun. And then after the Sean, people do it left and right. Why was it watching Deshaun do it? And they're like, Oh, this is a thing now. What happened?

It hap, it happens like once or twice a year, pretty regularly. Um, me, if I were in the NFL, I would run all the way to the back of the end zone every time I would, there'd be no chance I would give that ball up early. I think the coolness factor of being like, man, I scored so easy. Look at me drop the ball right away. But it is, it's insane that it ever has. It's truly insane that it ever happens. It's crazy. I'm with you, big cat. I would hand the ball to the official

like I've been there before. Yep. I'd run into the tunnel. Memes. Go ahead. This is the first happy memes we've had, I think, in a month, month and a half. Yeah, it's been a very long time.

They should give Garrett Wilson all the money. I think he's the greatest player of all time. Oh. But this is, the first half was one of the worst first halves of all time. Yeah. This is also the worst coach football team of all time.

Oh, that's a lot of all times. That was three all times. There's so many all times. Okay. But they don't even really have a coach. That's the important part about it. Yeah, you can't say it's the worst football coach team of all time.

They fired their coach. They fired the coach, but you still have an interim coach. I understand, but that's like, it's not Jeff Olbrich's fault. He wasn't the coach. They decided to fire the coach four weeks into the season. No, the Jeff Olbrich is the meme where it's just like, I got too important at my job and now it's ruining my life. Like he should just be the defensive coordinator. That means. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody knows that one.

Thanks for speaking internet to us. Okay. The Peter principle where you just in your job, you, you get promoted until the point where you reach incompetence. That's the corporate world. Yeah. Yeah. But it, we're still very poorly coached. Yeah. Yeah. You fired your coach. You don't have a head coach. But we do have a coach. I understand.

I don't think that you do. You don't. Jeff is our coach. Coach is our coach. I understand. I don't think that you do. You don't. Jeff is our coach. Coach is our coach. Right. So you still have to use that yourself. He's he shouldn't be the coach. You don't have a coach. The fact that you everything I need to hear you're talking about him like he's your stepdad. Jeff's our coach. Jeff Jeff. Yeah. Jeff Jeff. Hi. Right now. Just to coach the players to take the ball and run over the goal line with it. It's not that hard. Yeah. Do you put that on coaching? I don't know if I put that on coaching. I bet you Belichick tells his guys across the fucking

goal line. Yeah. The whole yeah. What does the Belichick say? The whole franchise in your hands? Yeah. No, I put, I, I, I could, that's a, that's, that's under coaching for me because it's just, it's lazy football. It's little like the minor details. It's the same thing as the, uh, the, the penalty they had on the field goal. Like the one thing you can't do is just run over the center the long snapper and that's exactly what they did need them in the head Yeah, you're right that is in its coaching that's just the but they don't have a coach But congratulations memes, I know you needed this and it was good to see win for you guys Now on the other hand the Houston Texans They're very banged up. They're missing some wide receivers some weapons

CJ Stroud doesn't look like himself No, he their offensive line is bad and they don't have weapons and CJ Stroud Maybe sophomore slump you want to call it I don't know it's just 11 for 30 191 yards you could say I mean I'm not I don't think see a shots bad guys aren't getting open he's got no time but their offense is not looks good for the majority of the year you know what I mean like it's it's been it's been a lot of ugly football and it feels like they are a team that unless Joe Mixon is doing everything, they're never like, they're never ahead on the, on the downs. You know what

I mean? It doesn't, it doesn't feel like they're sitting there with a lot of like second and twos and the playbooks open. It's just a lot of like third and eights and CJ Stroud running for his life. Um, and yeah, he's getting, he's getting his ass kicked. He's the, his offensive line isn't holding up. He's getting his ass kicked every single, every single game. He's still a good quarterback. Don't get me wrong. He's still making incredible throws and I think he'll be fine. If this is his sophomore slump, this is a pretty good sophomore slump to have.

Yeah. There are six and three. It's yeah. Memes. Real quick. I also have a thought about that. What do you say? I have a theory about that. OK, go ahead. So it was Freaky Friday situation. Broncos week four Jets came in.

Zach Wilson dapped up Aaron Rodgers. We got all that bad energy. Today we sent all the bad energy to the Texans. Oh, so now CJ Stroud is back Wilson. So now it's over there and now we're back. Yes. Got it. Who is Zach Wilken now? All right. That'd be CJ Shrobb. CJ Shrobb. Memes. Real quick. Three and six at Cardinals, home against the Colts, home against the Seahawks. Do the Jets get to 500 before the stretch run last five weeks of the season?

Gotta beat the Cardinals. Okay. Gotta beat the Cardinals. I feel that. Aaron Rodgers said the run the table thing to Al Michaels in the pregame production meeting though. Yeah. I mean it does feel like you if you're not six and six going down the stretch run it like It's you have to win every I mean like six and six then you then you get in a spot We're like, okay. All right, we go four and five down here

You know, we can still lose a game. But if you're sitting there if you only win one or two of the next three We're not we're not even going to entertain this. Yeah, no, I'm excited about this current second half. But in reality, I know that we're in a deep, dark hole. Okay. Listen, darkness. Aaron Rodgers has been there. Embrace the darkness memes. Embrace the darkness. Air Riders been there embrace the darkness memes embrace the darkness But I think we're in a good spot bad energy Texans Jets back well, okay, what you want a game and you put yourself in a position where if Everything crazy happens to you. Then you can be back at 500 Yeah

Yeah, you got you got this you got this memes means you believe this mean you don't believe this. Well, no, I think he's just excited. They want a game. Yeah, which you should be. I'm very excited. We beat the Texans. They are a playoff team right now. Yeah.

And this is like it's nice to win a Thursday. Now you get a full weekend where you don't have to think about having to be in another must-win situation. You get a little break, mental break, and then you'll be back at it next week. Yeah, right back. They also just have to stop putting us on prime time. Yeah. Well, I think you guys still have like... We have the Colts on Sunday Night Football. What? What? Yeah. Damn. Flex it. Coltson Sunday football. You flacco. Yeah. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco at the

end of the year. Yeah, I don't see one at the end of the year right now. Um but I'm sure they'll find a way to put you in another one. Uh alright. We should congratulate the Los Angeles Dodgers on the world series because they have won the world series. Congrats Los Angeles Dodgers. They were the best team in baseball this year. They've been the best team in baseball for basically a decade. I like I want to talk about the Yankees but I want to give the Dodgers their their full hat tip first. The Dodgers are is it weird that even though they spent all this money and they're you know all in every single

year I weirdly am happy for the Dodgers because they have been the best team in baseball for like you know the Astros obviously have a case but the Dodgers have been in the playoffs for like something like 12 13 years in a row. They've won over 100 games a bunch of times. They won the COVID world series which I think we all we joke about the bubble and stuff. That's the only one where it's like they did play significantly less games. You know like the NBA still tried to play most of their games. The NFL played all their games, baseball. They played 60 games, right? So that was the one that was like a little weird. So this one kind of affirms like, Hey, this is like great job. You guys did it. You know, all the times he's won a hundred games and then bounced in the first round baseball

playoffs are so random. It's really just such a crap shoot. Who could be the hottest team? So I'm weirdly happy for the Dodgers and I'm happy for Shohei. I'm happy for Walker Bueller who had a tough year and then he was just absolute nails in the playoffs. Got his first career save in the, in the game, in the world series clincher, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts is a stud and the Dodgers did it by just being the better team and being the fundamentally better team. Because like if you look at it like average in the series was pretty much the same home runs the same runs the same. The Dodgers don't make mistakes like the Yankees made mistakes and that showed a hundred percent in game five when the Yankees

had a complete and utter meltdown of which I don't think I've seen anything like that where it was just it was I mean I've seen things like that but like the bang bang bang where it was Aaron judge missing just an absolute can of corn that the error at third base and then Garrett Cole refusing to cover first base all happening in rapid succession five unearned runs a guy. Your goal had a no hitter going into the fifth inning and they leave the fifth inning with no unearned runs and it's five five. That was insane. Absolutely insane. Well yeah I mean going back to the Dodgers real quick though Freddie Freeman what he's done in this

postseason especially in the world, he is is absolutely incredible. And going back to even when he was with Atlanta, like this is, he is one of the best world series batters of all time. You can, you can look at the stats, put them up against anybody and what he did in the world series and he had other deep shots that were hit off the wall. He had a hard hit balls that were caught. Like that dude could not miss this entire world. Yeah, it was cool to watch. I am happy for Shohei as well. He obviously seemed like he was

pretty banged up in the World Series after that slide in second base. But he was out there. The other guys were happy for him. But he was like a shell of himself at the plate. Yeah. But that fifth inning. Yes, you're right. That fifth inning that the Yankees had, absolutely incredible. As somebody that does not consider themselves to be Yankees fan. I think I speak for most of America when I say that. Yeah, that was an incredible piece of theater.

Incredible performance. Our on in that inning. It was one right after the throw to third base. I he probably should have gone to second on that one to begin with. But then the throw was low to third base. It was like two errors in one. And, and on top of everything that happened in that inning, for Garrett Cole to go out there the next inning, and lock the fuck in. After it all went to shit. The

fifth was actually very, very impressive on Garrett Cole's part. I don't know if that was him being like, Yeah, I probably should have covered first base. Now I have to go out there and make up for it and just get absolutely lights out on them. But whatever he did to lock in, he should get some credit for that. But it's, it's just an all time screen grab now too. It's, it's what five Oh, and there's an Anthony Rizzo is picking up a ground ball and Garrett Cole has has a path to beat Mookie Betts to the bag like that picture. And then the next thing that happens is five five.

It was and I know people were blaming Garrett Cole and he should get blamed for not covering first base. That's like day one fundamentals. But in his semi defense that inning should have been over way before that because Aaron judge dropped like that. I don't even know what happened with that ball that Aaron judge dropped. They got sick. It's crazy. It was nuts. And yeah, with the Garrett Cole not covering first base thing. Yes, it's on Garrett Cole. I also think Rizzo probably could have tried to run to first base. I think he was, I I think he I think that ball had some weird spin on it and I think he was like trying to feel the cleanly and that's just I mean

Max you're you're a baseball expert you know base like that they do that day one of spring training though the the pitcher covers first base there they do that day one of spring training of literally like that is the most fundamental play of baseball that he just had an absolute brain fart. Like there, that's, there's nothing else to it. Yeah. And it's just, maybe Rizzo could have been quicker to the ball, but I still think Rizzo thinks a hundred times out of a hundred ball hit to his side. Like Garrett Cole's going to go cover the bag for clearly. I think it's something you have to make a decision on like as as

the ball's going like he he wasn't thinking he was had to get there. So he didn't. Yeah. If he had if he went off the bat, if he was like, I'm I'm I'm the only person that can get to first like he probably could have but he just wasn't. It was just like yeah that that's all it's automatic. If there's a ground ball to the right side side you automatically like it's the first instinct is run a first like no matter what? No, I'm saying the Rizzo. Yeah, I'm saying Rizzo. Oh, yeah Yeah, like Rizzo if Rizzo right away was like I'm going to first but he just assumed

Yeah, if we're if Garrett Cole had screamed like I'm not going to first Maybe we're so good at God. Why would you ever assume he wasn't? He's not going to be the fastest guy, the most explosive athlete ever to feel that and run to first base. And I think he was a little surprised not to see cold there. And then he just pulled up too. And then everyone was just standing around like, well, what the fuck just happened? Yeah. And it's, it's a insult to injury. I don't know if you guys saw there was a uh story in the New York Post that uh it would I'm just gonna read this real

quick. It's the Dodgers scouting report. Uh what the Dodgers told their players in scouting meetings was the Yankees were talent over fundamentals that if you run the bases with purpose and aggression, the Yankees will self-inflict harm as it was exposed by Betts, Tommy Edmond, Freddie Freeman, et cetera. The value was very high to put the ball in play to make the Yankees execute. They mentioned that the Yankees were not just the majors worst base running team by every metric, but the difference was vast on the field between them and the

Padres who the Dodgers beat the NL division series. Is Max just flossing on camera The floss like an up-close I Have ADD I do like like different stupid shit Maybe I may have been falsely maybe a bit of flossing but that that's got to be such insult to injury that the Dodgers before The series were like hey just you guys know if you just before the series were like, hey, just so you guys know, if you just try a little bit harder on every single play, they basically, the Dodgers got a scouting report that was like the Yankees are a softball team.

They're like, all you gotta do is put the ball in play and run hard and they'll fuck up. Yeah. And that's what happened. Just put pressure on them. And they're gonna fall under the pressure. And then- It wasn't even pressure.

That's the craziest part. It wasn't even like, there was that much pressure. Make them play baseball. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy. So I thought it was interesting to talk to Soto right after the game was over. And they were like, so what do you think about next year? And under most circumstances, I think a player would say, I really enjoyed my time with the Yankees. Great group of guys. Sorry that we couldn't get it done and we'll just have to let the process play out. But then Soto was like, yeah, I'm going to talk to every team in the league that wants to talk to me. Yeah. Yeah.

He's he's he basically proved that getting Soto for a year now, obviously, the Yankees won the World Series. It's worth it. But it does not do them any favors in free agency. So it was not not gonna be like, oh, well I know where Yankee Stadium is and I'm comfortable here. He's just get, you just give him the most money and he'll be there.

Yeah. Everyone should, anyone who's rooting for a team has money. Someone said the Blue Jays, that would kind of suck. I don't know if that would be. He's already said that, he's already said that there's zero, he has zero emotion to any team it's literally just a blank check yeah it goes to the highest bidder that's what i love so

obviously the mats are going to be involved uh obviously teams like probably the the rangers might get involved too um yankees are going to make an offer dodgers maybe i don't know what would there's if they'd be willing to pay him as much money as he's going to need. I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Nationals were involved to get him back to. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, why not? If they have the money, he's a Boris guy, right? Oh, yeah. Scott Boris had to just be pumping his fist when that when when Suosodo said that Yeah, just not even a little bit of like I love the guys in this clubhouse gonna take me a couple days to get my head Right. She's like highest bidder get it ready. He just made you guys see the

Did you guys see the fireworks in LA? That was pretty cool. I saw the guy blows handoff. Oh I did not see that that was not cool. That was on the for you page of x.com. X everything app. I opened it up today and it was just this dude sitting off a firecracker in the middle of the street blows his hand off and then he runs the sidewalk dripping blood everywhere. It was a wonderful way to start my morning. Did he have a Dodger cap on? He's a big Dodgers guy. Yeah. Oh, alright. Well, at least he's got to win. Yeah. I mean that that was that what it the LA, um, I, uh, you know, I know Hank loves LA. He wants us to move

to LA. Um, I have no affinity towards LA other than they did get a little screwed in the winning their championships during COVID. And this one feels like the, I know obviously the Rams, but this feels like the first one and they deserve that. You know, like, cause imagine flags fly forever, all that shit, but like you win a COVID championship, you don't get to go to the games. You don't, you know, there's no parade. Like this is the first true one. And like I said, the Dodgers have been the best team in baseball for Astro fans are still

getting mad at me. The best team in terms of like consistently being in the playoffs and winning, you know, a hundred games for 12, 13 years. And so they deserve one. I know people will say, Oh, they spent the most money they did. They went all in the Dodgers, the new Yankees. That was the, that was a big thing. Like the, the Dodgers, the Dodgers already had a super team and they're like, you know what we're going to do? We're going to add Shohei Otani. That's what the Yankees used to do.

So like that's, that's the Dodgers are the new Yankees and they, and they played fundamental ball better than anyone else. They were the best team by far. Yeah. You know how you say that, that Cavs fans and Browns fans are different people, even though they are probably the same people, but you think of them in different ways. That's exactly how I think of Dodgers fans and Lakers fans. I agree. Yeah. Dodgers fans to me. Yeah, they they seem like a real like actual localized fan

base. And I kind of root for Dodgers fans in that sense in a way that's completely different from how I feel about the Lakers. But yeah, I guess you could say they're the new Yankees, but they I don't think that they've had enough success. No really reached that point of of like entitlement that Yankees fans sometimes get. I'm not saying they're the new Yankees in terms of like what they've done winning wise. I'm saying they're the new Yankees in the fact that like the Yankees used to, you know, be the best team that they would still be like, let's go get the best player in free agency. Like the Dodgers were, were a great team and they're like, yeah, let's fucking add show way, you know? And like, you just said Soto, like, I don't think the Dodgers will

sign Soto, but if they did, I wouldn't, it was just like, yeah, I guess that's what they do. They just keep spending the most amount of money. Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked I think that it's probably gonna be the Mets. But again, whoever has the biggest check. That's it Yeah, it's sad knowing that like Tom Ricketts has the money and it's just I'm not even gonna even pretend to get my hopes up Like I've sent like two like low, low effort tweets being like Juan Soto come to the Cubs. That's how I, that's what it sounds like in my head

when I'm tweeting it. Yeah. Cause I just know it's not even a chance. You just have to do it. Yeah, just cause I just like, maybe he sees it and he's like, oh shit, I didn't even think maybe I should call the Cubs. You never know.

He's so fun to root for. Yeah. Um, all right. Anything else before we get to ourselves? Uh, we got, by the way, uh, Bob does sports. Our collab with them was out Tuesday. Go watch it. We have the, uh, our vlog from after commander's bears. And then today, uh, episode one of the part of my take Doc. So a lot of stuff going on. Yeah. Um, I haven't seen the doc yet, but, um, we were part of filming the doc and they interviewed us. And, uh, I think it's going to be really good. I, I trust Hank for four episodes. This is episode one, episode two will be in a couple of weeks,

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Silverado, okay boys week nine at the end of this week will be at the halfway point of the NFL season What do you what was that face Hank week nine? I just don't like it when you give me updates on these because it starts usually like week five After we've gotten through the first quarter of the season and I would prefer just not to know Yeah, I prefer to just bury my head in the sand and be ignorant about it. Listen week nine We're almost a half time. I have a I have before we get into the games. I really wish the NFL would link up Moving our clocks with week nine. Instead, the clocks are being moved next week, week 10.

Why wouldn't they just do it at the halfway point? It feels like it would just make more sense. The NFL needs to come in and do their own version of saving some. Like we go by the NFL clock and we go by the NFL league year now. Where the start of the new year is in March at some point. I like how the trade deadline is on election day this year.

We need to do everything according to the NFL League rules. So I feel like if they want to decide maybe after the trade deadline, move the clocks forward. Move the clocks. I just wish it was this weekend. It's next weekend, and it's stupid. It is stupid because like, OK, we got baseball this week.

And I remember sometimes there would be daylight savings in the middle of the World Series. But fortunately they moved that back to that first week of November. It would also suck too if it's like you're going out on Halloween and then the next day you're losing time. That would just be insult to injury. All right, so yeah, they did pick a good week then. You're right.

Week 10, next week, move the clocks. All right, week nine, we have a full slate, only two buys. Let's just dive into the games. I think there's some exciting games this weekend. We got some good ones. We got some really good ones. You know which one I'm most excited for? What?

Broncos and Ravens. Broncos, all right, let's start that. I'm excited about that one. Cause Bo Nicks has been actually good recently. And their defense is legitimate top five defense and the Ravens, Ravens had won last week, I would feel very strongly about believing them this week, but the fact that they lost last week tells me they're obviously not going to take it lightly, but it's the most yards per play in the Ravens offense against the least yards per play given up

in the Broncos defense. I think this is the Ravens. Okay, I think I think it's a trick yourself into thinking the Broncos, which they're not bad. It's no no knock on the on the Broncos, but the Ravens awful loss, kind of a focused effort. Just signed Deontay Johnson, which is I mean, that was a was that not a genius trade? Yeah, yeah. Like, Deontay Johnson's good and he's also doesn't have to be the number one receiver And if you're if you're Deontay Johnson, it's a great trade. Yeah, you're you're more pumped than anybody your life Just got so much better. You got traded twice in the span of eight months Yeah, and the Panthers gave up Dante Jackson for Deontay Johnson and they got a They also gave up I think a six and a

seventh and now they got back a fifth from Baltimore so they gave up a player and a six and a seventh and got back a fifth round pick I guess good excuse me good for the Panthers I guess that's an asset yeah you have to move on from your your good players if you're in a position like they are but yeah if you're Deontay this is this is nice this This is really good. Real nice. Yeah, I think the I think the Broncos are good. I think the Broncos have also played maybe the three worst teams in the NFL right now in the last three weeks, the Raiders, Saints, Panthers. Yeah. But as we discussed, there's a lot of ass out there.

There is a lot of ass. This is ass season. There's a lot of ass. I just think the Ravens are a little and again, it's awful loss where it's like The game they could have won and the Ravens are gonna be very focused Broncos riding high and you see that nine-point spread You're like, oof. That's easy. It's a lot of point Broncos are five and three. How are they nine-point underdogs? Yeah, it's a lot of points and yeah, I agree with you Like I said if the Ravens had won last week, I would probably be leaning heavy to the Broncos But I'm excited to watch the game. Oh, yeah, definitely. We're going to learn a lot about the Broncos. I have a stat from Sports Info Solutions. The Broncos are probably going to try,

so they're going to try to blitz Lamar because they send, they bring five rushers more than anyone, but the Ravens have the second best success rate against five or more pass rushers this year. So Lamar, I mean, if you blitz him, you're gonna get fucked. That's another thing, where if you're Lamar and you get the house sent at you, and you avoid the sack, even if they get into the backfield and you somehow avoid it and either take off with your feet or hit somebody downfield,

that's gotta be the most demoralizing thing as either an actual defense or as a fan of that team. Right. He just blitzed the house and then he easily avoided your blitz and exploited it. You're like, well, what the fuck do I do now? Yeah. We're out of options. Okay.

Next game that I'm also excited for, very excited for, Dolphins at Bills because now I don't want to say that something looks easy, but the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen owned the Miami Dolphins. Yes. They are, the Dolphins are two and 12 against the Bills when Josh Allen's been the quarterback, and they're 0 and 7 in Buffalo. I don't, they are, the Bills are the Dolphins boogie man.

And Josh Allen specifically. And it's crazy, we touched on it on Monday, but like, the Bills have just fucking dudes now. Like, Keon Coleman is becoming a dude. I love this quote. Did you see he said, when you ain't getting the ball, I'm going to hit somebody. It's been fun for me. I love that.

He seems like one of those guys. It's just a refreshing, like a fresh breath of air. And the fact that he just loves playing football, loves doing his job, loves hitting guys. Shakir's awesome. There's some crazy stats out there about Shakir and Josh Allen. Like they just, every time he throws it to him, it's a catch. Uh, Kinkade, James Cook, and I, the dolphins, Mac Collins, Mac Collins, the dolphins, I, when they have to go,

I don't even know what the weather's going to be like in Buffalo when they have to go anywhere. That's not Miami. I'm just like, no, they can't do it. Do you know when the last time the dolphins beat the bills in Buffalo was? Well, I know it's at least 0 and 7 So it was it was 2016 yeah, and the quarterback was Turad Taylor. Yeah, that's the last time that that's happened. They've never beaten Josh Allen in Buffalo and Since Josh Allen's been the quarterback of the Bills the cumulative score is 460 to 269

Just an ass-kicking ass-kicking I'm looking at the weather daily forecast it's gonna be nice a little rain but still 57 degrees that's too cold for the Dolphins it's very yeah it's very very cold for them yeah and to I'm happy to is back I don't think they're I don't think they're winning this game I think it's gonna be a fun game. I think the Bills at least- They do score a lot of points when they play each other. Yeah, and at least the Dolphins offense looks fun.

And Josh Allen, I think Josh Allen's gonna have a big day with his feet too. I think he's gonna just, he's gonna take off, he's gonna run some people over. Josh Allen touched down this weekend. Memes, if the Bills lose this game, we've already talked about the Jets, Texas, but let's say the Jets win

Are you thinking wow we might be back in this because it's six and three and and the Bills would and the Jets would be three and six and we won. Yeah, you guys win. Did you guys win? We're taping this in the morning. Did you guys win? I don't think so. Oh So this would be bad if you won and then you're like I knew we were gonna win Yeah, well there's one thing I know about memes by the time kickoff rolls then you're like, I knew we were going to win. Yeah. Well, there's one thing I know about memes. By the time kickoff rolls around, you're going to be like, we're going to win. Playoffs.

Well, when Bruce Arians were going to get to him, when he was talking about being a sixth seed, I said to Max, I was like, I'm back. Yeah. Yeah. All you need is you just need to chip in a chair. Yeah. The Dolphins, I feel like they did the thing where they would blitz a lot and then just get abused by Kyler Murray last week Yeah, and that's gonna be Josh Allen this week. Yeah, they're their defense failed them in the second half the Dolphins Yeah, they're 27th in defensive DVO a alright next game Cowboys of Falcons. I'm another one. I'm very excited for another must-win for Dallas

This is a must-win for Dallas. This is a must win for Dallas They're just games. No, but they know we're doing the ones that we're most excited for what you're talking about Hank you're not excited about Cowboys. Why not? Well, Hank doesn't like football. You don't like football winning your anti football pussy Tell me why how about this Hank? We'll turn the tables Tell me why we shouldn't be excited about this game. Cause the Cowboys stink and the Falcons are, or it's just not like a, it doesn't pop jump off the screen. Like it's not like, Oh, I think this one jumps, you know, obviously football guys and football guys, guys love every game, but no one, no casual fan is like, Oh shit. All right. This one does it. Doesn't jump off.

Falcons, Cowboys. Let me get to my couch. Jump off the screen. Maybe not the right term, but I would say this game stands out Yeah, it's the Cowboys playing for their season. I think Bijan's gonna have a huge game I think Cal Pitts is gonna have a huge game. We had Trayvon digs make up with the reporter Which was nice feels good that we can respect journalism again. Yeah, he should let the reporter both of him Yeah, he should yeah, just be like I'm gonna bow for you at some point You have to answer all my questions. It has to be natural. Yeah. At their meeting. I wish the reporter had said, uh, smells like up dog in here. Just like a little prank. Just getting back the D's nuts for the up dog. The up dog. Yeah. What's up dog. What's up, Doug? How much was something? I have some stats for you to get you excited here All right. Here's something to be excited about Kyle Pitts bet him this week Cowboys run the second most one high shell looks in the league Kyle Pitts six most yards per route for single high safety

Kyle Pitts and also Zeke is Zeke is completely washed by the way Zeke is completely washed He's the only running back with 30 carries who has yet to break or miss a tackle. According to sports info solution, he's yet to break a tackle, break or miss a tackle. That's a pretty key thing about being a running back. But if you're, if you're worried about getting old at the running back position, uh, don't worry because Dalvin cooks play. Yeah. The Cowboys are so sad and it's also just, it's DAC and CD. They have to do everything I I'm just rooting for something to happen in both the Ravens and the Cowboys game where we get to just tie into the fact that Jerry Jones passed on going after

Derek Henry again yeah I want I want updates on that every single week the Jerry Jones keeps talking about it too yeah he does yeah he keeps like being like it's not bothering me he's like that guy's so good but you know couldn't get him couldn't get him. Couldn't work. I think this is just gonna be a fun over game too. The Falcons can't rush the passer and Dak is up and down. He's busy. He's been like, if he's got a clean pocket, I think there's going to be points. Yeah. Did you know that Dallas, I think that they, in the third quarter, they can't score

points. Yeah. Whatever's going on in Mike McCarthy at halftime, he needs, he maybe needs to switch over play calling again at halftime and give that up because they got crushed 21-0 last week in the third quarter. Now they've been outscored 61 to 19 in all third quarters. Do you think he's eating at halftime? He probably needs a snack. Maybe he needs to. Did you see that? I don't know. It was like maybe two weeks ago, Jeff Hathley, the defense coordinator for the Packers was explaining there was a reporter who asked about halftime and he was like, you guys don't realize that like I maybe have 90 seconds with the team at halftime.

Yeah. He's like, by the time I get all the way down, talk to our coaches, then have like a minute to talk to our players. He's like, I hit like two things He's like there's no such thing as a halftime adjustment The adjustments are happening throughout the game and also maybe your individual position group coach Yeah, he's talking about he was like I'm adjusting after every series. It's not like a halftime adjustment This is a whole new game. Maybe Mike McCarthy needs to go back to the will of tricks

Smash a watermelon at halftime. Oh That brings up bad memories for me smashed out watermelon. I was I was I was in that survivor where I was I think it was for the pro football show. I was like 13 and oh, and I didn't know there's a watermelon. Yeah, maybe maybe save some of these awesome stunts for halftime instead of for a pregame meeting on on a Sunday or a Saturday. Was that Cooper Rush? I believe I think he smashed watermelon

for Cooper on the Cooper Rush game? Because it was Vikings They beat the Vikings. I don't remember. I don't remember who the quarterback was. Yeah I think it was Cooper Rush. Smash the quarterback at halftime Mike. Smash Smash Cooper Rush's head. Yeah. Yeah, that will work. Uh, alright Hank you want the honesty? Raiders and Bengals I'm not very excited for you. There you go Yeah, I'm not either. I'm gonna predict something I think memes has this game circle because of McCallick Hulkin because McCallick Hulkin I'm getting dressed up as how as Joe burrow for Halloween if you've seen the pictures Adam Schefter tweeted out and yeah

He was like look at this dressed up as Joe burrow It's it's such a bad representation such a bad vibe for Joe burrow Yeah, because the picture especially one where he's like laying down on his helmet or the ball or whatever Joe Burrow. It's, it's such a bad representation, such a bad vibe for Joe Burrow. Yeah. Because the picture, especially the one where he's like laying down on his helmet or the ball or whatever. Um, you know that memes can't wait for like the first interception, first bad play that Joe Burrow has to tweet out that picture of Macaulay Culkin. Yeah. Memes. Yeah, but you can't trash your friends. True. I don't think I, but I don't think I, I thought the same thing when I saw the picture and I was like, Joe Burroughs

gotta be rolling his eyes, but it's also, at this point, everything's a meme anyway. It's not like there's no memes of Joe Burrough when he loses. This is just something for the arsenal, just like there's something for everyone in the arsenal. And it's, I'm sure Joe Burroughs probably laughed at the fact that like, it's McCauley Culkin and he stresses me. Like I watched all of his movies as a kid and this is that like it's but Colby Culkin right dressed me right like I watch all his movies as a Kid and this is just it's a very funny. It's funny It is not it will be used against them

But I don't think it's one where he's like, you know, if he loses he sees it He's gonna make all what the fuck like that's just that's just the easiest. He's expecting that will come He's got expected at this point But yeah when I saw that I just knew that memes has added that to the file Yeah, I got bookmarked instantly. I want to believe in the Bengals. They are testing my faith in the Bengals I think Bengals fans even agree. They're like this is when I do my power rankings on Tuesday There were a lot of Bengals fans like just put us in full ass. Yeah, because it's It's just they played they played the Sean Watson and Daniel Jones and then after that I mean I guess they're playing Gardner Mintchus. So they should look good this week. They could he Higgins needs to play

They could look good and The defense I feel like Brock is gonna be a Brock game for our powers. Yeah Bengals have to win there in every game is a must-win Yeah, and if they lose this game, then it would be like we got to win eight out of The last nine. Mm-hmm. And if they lose that game, they got to win eight out of the last eight if they lose that game They got to win eight out of last seven. I think they have to run the table now They're just gonna keep the Bengals are gonna be in in week 17 and they're gonna be like Six and ten and they're like if we just win five of our out of our last one we'll be a playoff. Yeah Zach Taylor right now is the coach that is spending

the most time on the playoff machine. Yeah. Yeah. All the combinations. So Hank were you happy that I said that? That I admitted that there's one game here's another game I'm not excited for Patriots Titans. Disagree. Oh is Drake May playing? Maybe. If Drake May plays I'll up my excitement level a Scouche because he would make it a more exciting game if it's Kobe Percet verse Mason Rudolph. That's a tough one Yeah, no, that's fair. We're also By law have to bet the Patriots Yeah, because we've said it before teams after facing the Lions are 0 and 6 against the spread and straight up

I don't have an actual opinion on this game other than that stat. I will probably not even look at this game. I will just hope that this stat continues and we're sitting here on Sunday night and we're like teams that have played the Lions are 0 and 7 straight up and against the spread after playing lines. You know what that sounds like? What? An under.

Oh, okay. You're not going to watch it. You don't want to see. Well, it's going to be on. I'm going to watch it. No, I want to see what's gonna be on. I'm gonna watch it No, I know but yeah, you know in a best case. Yeah, you don't even have to worry about it Yeah, cuz it's like 13 to 9 the Titans defense is still good. This is why I can't quit the toys can't catch Yeah, even doesn't matter who's throwing the Titans defense is good in theory But at this point in the season after they've been through all this shit, they know that they're just in tank mode right now I don't know if it's a lot to ask the Titans defense to keep playing at that level for the entire season.

They didn't even play that bad against the Lions. The Lions scored 52. I know that's crazy to say. Well, they didn't play that bad against the Lions because they had- They played great. Every short field. They had short fields. Yeah, right.

So who knows if they would have played good against the Lions if they had- True. You know, like 50 more yards on defense. The Lions should have done the respectable thing and just taken from the 20 every time. Yeah. We play a gentleman's game. Dan Campbell, there's no honor in Dan Campbell this season. He's just going to go for your jugular every single time. He's going to overkill you. Yeah. He's the king of overkill right now. Bad, bad offensive teams in terms of throwing the ball.

I think the two worst for yards per game, the Patriots and the Titans. And Hank, there's a lot going on this week for the Patriots. According to Josina Anderson, she said that New England might be towing the line between buyer and seller at the trade deadline. In what world do you think that the Patriots become buyers? What is that if you're a middleman, a wholesaler? I mean, this is just speculation, and I don't know that this is really how pro sports work, but

There's a possible world where craft and the crafts watched last game and watched our receivers drop 20 balls and are like we need to get a receiver Mm-hmm. I Don't know if that makes sense even though they know they're bad but they but they were like if we had just Like they they had like seven drops last week that were just off the hands yeah yeah really really bad they're gonna work so they they know that they have to improve

receiver yeah was that then rumor Jordan Addison yeah that made no sense yeah so I guess they have to like it they have to look at who's gonna be available as a free agent you have to look at who's coming out of the draft where they're gonna be like I don't think that the Patriots should be buyers right now. No, no, no. But that to your question of how is that possible? That was my only thought. Maybe they're just trying to, maybe they're trying to get more people to call them. They're just lonely. No, well, yeah, they're like, we're buyers and sellers. And then so sellers will call them and they'll be like, ha, just We're actually it's like when you're scalping tickets

Yes, you want to talk? Yeah. Yeah, he's like I need one. I need one. That's exactly what's happening I like that. Yeah, yeah or Robert Kraft just he wants he wants to make some trades So he can leak that information to the journalists who will be voting on whether or not he will get into the Hall of Fame Mmm, because he's a finalist So if you give them scoops, so Robertcraft makes like 50 trades 50 trades and he leaks them as a whole room every different journalist That's gonna be voting for him in the Hall of Fame selection process. Yeah, does Peter King still have a vote? I'm sure Peter King's never given up that do you have you seen these doing Kings across America? Yeah

He's just such a funny. I know it's his last name, but every time I see the tweet. I'm just like damn That's a little like what is he really think a lot about yourself. He's just driving across country with his wife It's going on a road trip and there's every tweet is just Kings across America, and it's just like damn, dude. Listen I you're really egotistical that I remember. I'm like, oh his name's Peter King I love I love what Peter King's doing because that's like the ultimate dream Yeah, you know age retirement just get an RV or one of those silver like trailers just cruise go to national parks. I want to do that right now Yeah, I want to just fucking drive. Are we nothing better than a long drive? Okay, so Hank we what game are we on Patriots?

We just went down a rabbit hole yeah, Peter says'm sorry, how about your game PFT commanders Giants Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about the Giants because they they always play the commanders very very tough They beat us a lot just throughout history And the defensive line makes me a little bit nervous because I think we're still without our starting left tackle We might even be on a third string left tackle at this point So I'm I'm not, there are no easy games for the commanders. Like they're still liable to fall back to how they looked in the first couple weeks. And the Giants in that first, second game of the season, their defense

played really, really well and held us to field goals. So that makes me nervous. I wouldn't be nervous because Brian Dable said this week He confirmed that QB Daniel Jones and Deontay Banks will remain in their starting roles. That's not good for how long? Banks for it. I like that. He just was like, oh everyone keeps asking about Deontay Banks Let me throw Daniel Jones in here as well. Yeah shortest I think Deontay Banks might have the shortest leash in the NFL right now He got benched in the middle of the game on Monday Night Football. And now you have your starting quarterback thrown in the same sentence as him.

That doesn't feel good. Yeah. Well, who's that? They're just a mess. Backup Drew Locke? No, is it not, is it not our guy? DeVito? Yeah.

Oh, but who's second? Oh, DeVito might be number three. Because if DeVito gets in, actually, I'm worried about both those backup quarter. Yeah. DeVito you should be worried about Andrew lock. Will you guys be trying to score touchdowns this time? Drew lock comes in and he just does some fuck shit. He's going to show lock Tommy DeVito. Cause remember the first time you guys played the giants didn't have a kicker. The commanders won with seven field goals to three touchdowns. Yeah. Also

office, which is a fuck. No, our offense wasn't great three touchdowns. Yeah, also offensively great though. Which is a fucking crazy. No, our offense wasn't great in that game. What are you worried about? You just couldn't score on the Reds. That's true. Good point. The kicking situation in DC, I give enormous amount of credit to the front office for that

because we had a shitty kicker at the start of the season, couldn't trust him. And then you go out and you change it immediately after one game where it's like, I don't want this to be a problem for the rest of the season, and you make a quick decision and you get a guy that can actually and has won you football games. Yeah. That's like one of those underrated calls that can fly under the radar.

But yeah, that was, it was shockingly competent on the part of Washington's front office. Now here's a crazy stat for Daniel Jones in terms of how he plays at home. The last time he threw a touchdown pass at MetLife was 2023. It was New Year's Day 2023. It's been a long, long time for him. Wow. Deontay Banks, did he get benched for getting hurtled or did he get benched for something

else? I think it was a combo. I think the hurdle didn't help. The hurdle was a bad visual think the hurdle didn't help the hurdle was a bad visual the hurdle did not help but he's been he's been bad I just I feel like Jaden's rib is not fully healthy yet at this point it can't be healthy after two weeks so that's still a concern even though we haven't talked about it at all this week like we were last week it was like in the news every single day I thought he faked it uh yeah but that's probably not true oh I'm just saying it could have been a fake could have a fake but there have been also could be very injured he could be he could be injured and

That's not an injury that gets better over the course of no weeks. So It's gonna be tough any any divisional matchups gonna be tough. Yeah What you have a question? No, I just I'll be honest Cuz I feel like me and PFT have been in in good spirits with the whole Bears commanders thing last week. It would be very funny if and I feel like the commanders are going to lose this game. Yeah, really. So Giants are going to be you're in your hungry dog thinking about it. Yeah. Wow. Honestly, I think the Giants are a good bet this week. Wow. If I'm being completely neutral on this and knowing my franchise and knowing how the

Giants typically play against us, it's a good bet. Hank, hungry dog. How's the hungry dog been doing? Pretty good, right? Yeah, we won week two. So that was like 14 to one. You had the Panthers in it last week. We were two for three. I know, we were so for three. So close, but we're up money in the year. So I want another one. Okay. So next game, Chargers at Brown's excited about this one. Is that okay, Hank? I guess Jamis Jamis, Jamis, Jamis,

Jamis. Also Justin Everett has been playing awesome. He needs more credit. They've, they've gone, they're now opening up the game. I looked at it, his stats, the first four games, he had 23 pass attempts per game. He was averaging last three games 35 pass attempts per game lad McConkey Jim Harbaugh said that he see he reminds lad McConkey Reminds him of Steve Smith. It's high praise high praise. So we get Justin Herbert playing really well Jamus, I'm excited for this game. Yeah. So Justin, he's had two consecutive games with, uh, over 270 yards passing and they don't have a lot at wide receiver, but if you can unlock lad, then you all of a sudden have a weapon and going up against, uh, the Browns, I, it's Browns defense, the banged

down, Denzel ward out, J okay. Obviously Browns defense is banged up and the Chargers defense is awesome Yeah, Chargers defense is really good. They haven't allowed more than 20 points all season. I kind of like the Chargers Yeah, I do too, but I still want I want James to go out there and I wanted to ball Yeah, do it for America. I want him to ball out. I want him to have fun. I want him to do some crazy shit Mm-hmm. I want James.. Yep. I need Jamis. Ah All right, Hank. Here's another one that stinks Saints Panthers Derek Carr said he is I am no savior Yeah, I disagree

Well for a savior from how bad they've been. Yeah, they've been outscored 110 to 45 when he's been out Wait, do we have is this Derek Carr like trying to rebrand as a bad boy? Because he said I'm no savior and he also said when I'm when I is this Derek Carr like trying to rebrand as a bad boy because he said I'm No, Savior, and he also said when I'm when I get back. I'm going to be a psychopath Oh, so we have psychic like I'm no I'm no saint He's basically being like I'm a bad boy. We got bad boy Derek Carr. Holy shit. I just like a psychopath cool Yeah, Derek Carr is gonna be a psychopath I'd is is Derek Carr a psych a psychopath like when a sports center anchor gets let go and they're like,

now I get to say what I really want to say? Yeah. I'm going to call a barstool, see if they'll let me do it. Yeah, right. Is that what's going on here? Are we going to really see a psychopath? I think he's probably going to eat carbohydrates. I think he might even have a full sugar Coca-Cola

He might not put on his mascara. Yeah, or make heavier mascara. I have your mascara Yeah, go go dress this halloween as slutty derrick car. The panthers are just the most bad vibe team in the world I mean trading deontay johnson. It's like you you're basically just telling your whole team We all suck. None of you are going to be here when we're good again. It's going to be a while. Yeah I don't know what I there's no there's no irredeemable part of the Panthers well Bryce is starting in Andy Dalton's healthy okay so I don't what are they doing I don't I think they're sure I don't think they know what they're doing though I think they're seeing if he could do something he probably can't but he's trying to do something yes, I see your laguette is is the best part of the Panthers. Yeah, yeah, did you guys see I've I've

What do you say you guys want to watch this? I've said the way he says I can't stop saying allergic. Okay Oh asparagus was the and it's okay allergic. I've been saying to myself for though. I can't get out of my head All right, let's hear it. Just hope they got some good food. I'm myself or though I can't get out of my I just studied this piece I like stream maize and green peace Pasta yeah, okay Yeah, I eat some pasta. Okay. Yeah, I eat some pasta. Chicken, steak, all the regular stuff.

No seafood though? No, I'm allergic. I love the allergic. Yeah, he is the best part of the Panthers. Yeah, he's country as fuck. I love that. I like that so much. Spurgus? Yeah, that's the Germany game next week.

Giants-Panthers. Oh man. Yeah, that's... That might be the only NFL game that I will not watch. I won't watch a second. I don't think I'm gonna watch it I think the NFL they've they've pulled enough levers if you're doing mad libs for how you how you engineer a game that even I Won't watch I think having the Panthers and the Giants play it 830 a.m. In Germany on daylight savings on

AM in Germany on Daylight Savings Day. On Daylight Savings Day. Shit. That's like, it's the reverse Vince McMahon meme where he keeps getting more excited. I keep getting less excited until fine. You figure out a way, Gadiel. Yeah. That might be the least watched NFL game in modern history. Yeah.

The Daylight Savings helps you. No. No, we go forward next week. Yeah. Fall back. Fall forward. Fall forward, you idiot. That's why your running game doesn't work. I always have it's an alliteration dummy right fall forward right? You guys are gonna watch it. You guys are lying. I don't think I am I definitely I will I'm second half I know that guy's gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it. I'm not gonna watch all of it

Fair I will watch parts of it. I think I've watched every NFL game in the last at least 10 years. I think I've seen every single one and I think this might be the one where I will opt out of. We actually should not watch it as a podcast and then give a recap. Yeah okay. That would be fun. Yeah. Oh Hank we have to twist your arm for that one. We're doing a boy this is our boycott against the NFL. Yeah. By the way this the the stat how bad are the Panthers Saints are the only team over the last 20 years To have to be seven plus point favorite on the road week eight later With a winning percentage less than 30% That's wild there are two and six and they are seven and a half point

Favorites on the road in division. That's how bad the Panthers are. Psychopath Derek Carr. Psychopath Derek Carr. Uh, okay. Max Jaguars Eagles. Are we worried about Doug Peterson's homecoming? Yes. Okay. Here's something that could make you feel a little better. Viles Jones is on the Jaguars now. He'll probably fumble if they play him. Okay. That's your guy. Yeah. Not my guy. That's your not my guy. Also want to give credit to the Eagles. Uh, I don't, we have some contacts with the Eagles, but we probably should figure out how their contracts work because I think we need to rework Hank's contract. As you guys see, there was a story that Jalen hurts Sa, Saquon, and Jeffrey Lurie played golf with Obama. It came out afterwards when Jalen Hurts did

his press conference. He said he didn't play golf, he rode with them because in his contract he's not allowed to play golf. How do we get that contract for Hank? There were a lot of people tagging him. Yeah. Yeah. Tagging me and asking why, why can't Hank do this? Yeah. Yeah. I would have to sign the contract. We could get you to sign the contract. Yeah. The four of us don't, you don't think we could physically manhandle you into signing a contract? That would be illegal. No, it wouldn't put you under duress. Street justice.

Give you two years guaranteed. You don't know about that. I'd hold on. So is that deal break? What is your break? Yes? What would you demand to have like what would we need to do to make you include that in your contract? I honestly was thinking about it like I really don't can't put a price on happiness can't put a price on golf And you wouldn't take Jalen hurts his contract If it was jail and hurts his contract, and yeah, that's what it would be yeah how long is this contract like four years we can probably get pretty quickly there's probably an exit in there after about I would do that because I don't have so much money then I wouldn't even have to

sign another contract Hank would put this podcast in cap hell yeah he would would be maxed out let's see what the contract is we have to have memes start Five years 255 mil alright fine. Yeah, I would sign that contract anything that's worth it. So you do have a price on happiness Yeah, cuz I could just do I could then just retire and call for the rest of us We should just get it and then in fine print the 250 mil is in Taylor coins Yeah. Yeah, I'm man. I lost a lot of money

And I thought it was a great thing there bring the world of the crypto communities and sports betting and boo together and the communities We're gonna join and then once the communities join It's like now they're together and there's just a huge community at that point. Because I actually don't think crypto guys have ever sports gambled or looked at boobs. No, no. But imagine you're not thinking about the communities coming together. That's true. That was it's more important than money at that point. I have a sad Jags stat. This is one of the saddest ones chap sent this to me yesterday. He actually he had

he FaceTime me to tell me the stat because he's like, I can't text this to you because it's so sad. This came from Daniel Griffiths. The Jaguars this year are averaging 5.8 yards per play. Okay. This is technically the best offense of all time in Jaguars history. What? What we've seen this year is the best they've ever been. How's that possible? Yes. Better than Bortles? Apparently they don't win. I mean, Aaron Lefwitch, David Garrard, Mark Lernel, Mojo, Blaine Train. Right now this is the best the Jacksonville Jaguars have ever played offensively. This might be a situation where Chaps is faking us out and because the Jags are so sad, we can be like, I guess it's right. It might be a situation where Chaps is faking us out and because the Jags are so sad,

we can be like, I guess it's right? It might be. He's a, he's a, he's a wily one. Yeah, but if true, this is a very sad stat. This is as good as it's ever been before. I guess different league now, they pass. That's true. Max, so nerve level for this game, you gotta crush him.

You just gotta win. No, you gotta crush him. You just got to win. No, you got to crush them. You got to crush them. This is Peterson's second time coming back. We crushed them the first time morally because I think they went up and then we came back. Oh, morally crushed more. It was a moral crushing this time. We just have to win. It looks like such an easy spot for the Eagles. Those looks like such an easy spot for the Eagles those looks like such an obvious spot for the Eagles the Jags are so bad the Eagles are look so good right now that it's an it's a nerve-racking game it's like it's an obvious like you think one way NFL's with NFL's a week to week it's weeks

we need to week to week we eat the last like three weeks you guys have looked pretty good very good are you guys early back pretty good. Very good. Are you guys fully back? No, no. Last week we looked like a team that was fully back but it's a week to week league. Should we start talking Jalen Hurts MVP? People are saying. Yeah? Is that a discussion that's happening?

What are we talking about right now? People are saying. Got us there. Got us there. Max is learning. Got us there. Max is learning. Got us there! I feel like a dad that his son finally beat him up. Damn! This is good. This is good shit.

But if you do win this week, you're fully, fully back. No, we're not fully back until we beat the commanders. I love that. I love that. This is what I wanted. I wanted Max to hate me. I wanted Philly fans to feel something about the commanders. I know. I this is what I wanted. I wanted I wanted max to hate me I wanted Philly fans to feel something about the commanders. I know I got DC I got Washington fans and my mentions all pissed off. It may feels good. I like it good

I guess you who won pepsi rookie of the week the fan vote pepsi rookie the most yeah hardware Was it jaden daniels hardware it must have been that that drive he had hard for the Hail Mary hardware I was I've been watching so much Eagles film this week Twitter film Oh Twitter Twitter film after a big win is the best yeah it is just watching like the random guy that you've never heard of break down how Cooper de Jean going from one side of the field to the other means that he's going to be an NFL superstar for the next 10 years. It's the best. Mm hmm. Oh, 22. Okay. Bears Cardinals afternoon games. Uh, Matt Eberfluss finally said it was his fault. What did you say? Wednesday? How do you say it?

the exact quote. He so he obviously said on Sunday and Monday that it's not a big deal that they didn't guard the sideline all that stuff. And then I believe he said I'm going to find it right now because I know it took all the way till Wednesday. All right. He said on reviewing the washing loss the game didn't finish the way We wanted it to and it starts with me, okay? So he finally got came to grips after three days after everyone after The locker room everyone talked out after Ben Johnson rumors started. He finally was like you know what I've done some soul-searching It's me okay starts with me is good. That's a good start. Yeah I would like at some point for him to say it starts and ends with me. Yeah. Yeah. They can start with

you and then it needs to end with you also. Otherwise it's ending with somebody else. It needs to end with you as well. It starts and ends with you. I got a question for you big cat about Caleb. Yeah. Um, do you think that they're asking Caleb to do too much? No, not physically. No, I'm talking about like the the 10 15 seconds before every play. Yeah, the checks at the line like every single player and lets them know what their responsibility is for that play no, would it be easier if He they took like half that often. No because then that would be more on Shane Waldron Okay, so it's like you'd rather have that be on I'd rather kill make not the shame. Walder make the mistake. Yeah. Yeah. Um, cause it seems like that's, they're asking him to do a lot that can get in

the way. Yeah. It can like, you know, simplifying it just a little bit can help him play a little bit more loose. I would like them to come out and maybe have a good drive to start a game for once. Uh, also here's a fun stat. Roshan Johnson. Did you know that he's the only player to score a touchdown on 100% of the carries inside the five yard line this season? Minimum four carries. That's the guy that we had in on the field for the, when Doug Kramer got the handoff.

What's Doug Kramer's percentage at? He's not scored a touchdown yet. Zero percent. Zero percent. This is a must win for the Bears. Obviously. This is also how you respond game Mm-hmm if they respond well, we can start saying okay Let's see what happens in the NFC North when we get going with that if they come out flat if the Cardinals Look good and and we lose this game. It's just like Bottom out so it's a this week against the Cardinals next week Patriots

Yep, and then it's and then it's divisional time then it's basically if next week Patriots. Yep. And then it's, and then it's divisional time. Then it's basically, if you win these two next games, then you're like, okay, yofs six. No, no, no. I'm not, I'm not saying yofs at six and three. I'm saying if they're six and three going into the divisional gauntlet, they have a chance to go to the playoffs. They, they, they would six and three was the three was the goal to get to a spot where hey you can take some lumps against the Lions, Packers and Vikings and still maybe be in the playoffs. I don't even know if I should put this out there into the universe but I will. There is a chance that we get a rematch big cat in the playoffs. Well I don't think the Bears

are going to make the playoffs. No don't put that into the universe. I don't think the Bears are going to know don't put that in the universe I don't know. Okay, we're trying to playoffs. So That would be tough, okay I mean if they win these next two games, I'll reassess. I'm on a week to week. It's a week to week league the only thing that makes me excited about this game is that the Cardinals are last in pass rush win rate. So hopefully with our banged up offensive line, we can still protect Caleb. And also we people have been calling for Tyreek Stevenson to get cut. We need him. Because we got some

banged up guys and we need him. And he's not a bad player. He had a bad moment. So we need him. So the the Cardinals, they stink in terms of getting pressure. Yeah. So if Caleb can have a little bit more time, it would be nice It would be very very nice The only the only thing that you're looking at on the Cardinals side is they might get their first round pick this week Oh, so Darius Robinson has been practicing. He's about to come back We don't know if it's gonna be on Sunday or not. Okay, if I were the Bears I would just hope like yeah, maybe just take. Don't push it. Don't push it.

Give yourself another week. Make sure you're ready. Don't rush it. Let Caleb get some time back in the pocket. Yeah. Don't rush it. Uh, okay. How about lions at Packers? Hank, are we allowed to get excited about vacuum? Yes. This is, this is, this is the primo games too exciting. The crown jewel. Wait, what was the other exciting dolphins bills? This is exciting, too Casual you pick you pick dolphins bills over Broncos Ravens Falcons Cowboys for a casual Okay, I disagree Hank. Ah Casuals don't even know who bonex is Are you a casual?

If I didn't work for this podcast podcast I'd be a lot more casual. You'd be the most casual. Would you not... what would you do on Sundays? I'd do what I used to do before this podcast existed which is like watch the Patriots game and then sometimes do other stuff and then just be done. Yeah. What a life. Alright so what are your thoughts on this game because this is gonna be a great game. I'm excited about this game I think the Lions are gonna roll Wow Lions roll, what does that mean? Ten plus ten like a stomping

Jordan love maybe playing how's his groin? Can we get an update on? Jordan loves groin. I don't know how it's growing is Don't recover that easily. No, they don't Jordan love might be playing I think The Packers are gonna win So this is one of Jared Goff's three outdoor games this season. Yep He's only got three of them and he hasn't had one yet right because it's the 49ers It's the Paris and it's the Bears. Yeah. No, he has that one

So we're and it's gonna be shitty. It's gonna be like rainy. Yeah, maybe a little bit windy I just this just feels like a Matt Eberfluss spot Well, sorry not Matt Eberfluss. I'm an idiot Matt LaFleur Matt LaFleur the good Matt good Matt Matt LaFleur. Matt LaFleur. The good Matt. Good Matt. Matt LaFleur loves doing shit, weird shit with Malik Willis who might get some playing time this weekend. And if he plays well, then now we're talking about official Matt Flynn status

where there will be a team that offers him, maybe not insane money, but he will extend his career by three to five years if he plays good this weekend Hank I don't like when you like the favorite and I like the underdog it's freaky Friday you know what I think it is big cat I did you hear what what coach Bill said no Belichick no Belichick called the Detroit offense impossible to stop whoa impossible they are kind of impossible but they haven't played outside yet that's right maybe yeah maybe only only winter a little bit slower it's also a three and a half is Whoa. Impossible. They are kind of impossible, but they haven't played outside yet. That's right. Maybe.

Yeah. Maybe only, only winter. A little bit slower. It's also a three and a half. It feels like a lot for a division game. I'll just say it. It's a lot for a division game. Uh, okay.

Last game in the afternoon, Ram Seahawks. What Hank? The stat from advisors that is, is the one is the lines are 14 and 3 against the spread in their last 17 divisional matchups and 14 and 3 against the spread in their last 17 road games. Whoa, that's pretty good I'm thinking the lines are gonna roll and also impossible to stop offense impossible to stop. But what about Matt LaFleur? Good coach, but I think I also think that having a half in half out quarterback That might not be a hundred percent versus your backup like it's almost worse than Jordan love just being out and knowing you're playing Malik Willis. That's a fair point. That was good analysis. Thank you. Ah

Ram Seahawks is the afternoon I'm just gonna bet the over in this game and hope the Seahawks aren't Total Jekyll and Hyde where they can't do anything on both sides of all we're gonna get DK back. Maybe hopefully This is a huge game for the NFC West. It is yeah massive. Yeah, whoever wins this game It's like we were going to say that they have a commanding lead Basically in the NFC West even though they don't they absolutely will not but it's gonna It's gonna feel like that is the best team right now in that division and the Rams if they win They're all the way back in this thing if they lose they're gonna be back into a spot where they're like where we got a lot

Of hay to make here. Yeah, exactly And then we're also going to be forgetting about the 49ers who will probably get off the bye week be healthy and they'll just Dominate everyone. Yeah. Yeah. I just don't know what the Seahawks just they feel like they're teetering. What are you say Max? Do you have something? I got nothing nothing You have any opinion on this game? Nothing not much. I'm excited for this game. I think that McDonald needs to just run the damn ball. Yeah, this feels like it It's just feels like an afternoon game obviously because in Seattle and it's two NFC West teams

But like I'm just gonna enjoy having this game being on. It's going to be, I'm going to take the over. Matt Stafford is, Matthew Stafford is way too often forgotten about. And now with Puka and Cooper back, their offense is going to just eat everyone, I feel like. It's just, can their defense, which is very young, hang in? I like watching Puka Nikul without the ball.

Yeah. He's one of those guys when they're running the ball, I just like how he blocks. And it might have to do with his hair just flying around out there as he's running into linebackers and safeties and shit. But he is one of the funnest players in the NFL to watch when he's not even a part of the play. Yeah, agreed.

All right, last game on Sunday, Colts Vikings. This Anthony Richardson thing has feels like it's been handled poorly, I would say. So it came out, Shane Stikin made the call, no influence from Jim Orsay, no influence from Chris Ballard. Anthony Richardson came out and said that Stikin didn't really give him a reason why he was being benched. And then Shane Stikin also said Joe will be our quarterback going forward. So it's not a one game benching. He clarified that. Yeah, he clarified it. That seems like a weird point to clarify.

If you make the switch and if Joe Flacco doesn't play well, then it's real easy for you to go back to Anthony Richardson. But then he came out and clarified the switch and said no he's now our full quarterback so now you can't make a switch back to Anthony Richardson. And then a team source from the Colts said we are not quitting on Anthony that will be the story but that's not the case. Feels like that's story. You're quitting on him for now. Yeah it's also like I know you don't want it to be the story but feels like it's that's the story. Yeah Brian Flores had an interesting quote about Anthony

Richardson he said I know there's been a lot of talk about the play where he came out, but did you watch the play? I mean, the guy throws a 300 pounder off and runs around. I thought it was incredible play. I mean, I got tired watching him. It seems like this is a lot of description of like Brian Flores is doing too much over praising how crazy that play was. Yeah. It's almost like he's saying it to keep that story going. And like in the news. Well, it's also it like creates. Yeah. He's trying to create the division in that locker room where if there was anyone who was defending Anthony Richard and they'd be like, Oh look, Brian Flores has our back. I think everyone probably hated that move. Have you watched the play? I cause hand up.

I actually haven't seen, I didn't go back and watch the play where he has to come out. It wasn't it wasn't that crazy and again, I if you're an offensive lineman who is you know offensive lineman have to have to just be living 70 pounds overweight probably banged up everything running down the field and then the quarterback comes out each I mean the description of that play was the guy throws a 300 pounder off him runs around Yeah, that's what you do every play if you're an offensive lineman Brian Flores playing head games Yeah I'm gonna go and the Vikings trade for Cam Robinson from Jaguars beef up their offensive line good move good move They had to do it. I'll see the Vikings

We'll see if their defense starts to because it's happened a couple of times where the Vikings defense has fallen off a little where at some point you gotta have guys who can win one on one and not just blitz. Yeah. Blitzing, blitzing, if you're playing a really good quarterback or quarterback can figure it out, blitzing, you can't just blitz and be like, that's all of our pressure. But I think they're still going to do it. Even if they get those guys that can win one on one, that's just the Brian Flores way. But they're back to back games where their defense taking a step back with the Lions and the Rams. They're also no pressure.

Huge free agent signing this week for the Vikings. TJ Hawkinson. I think he's back. I think he's going to play this way. That is huge free agency sign. I'm excited to see him out there. Yeah, there's gonna be a fun game because Joe Flacco is playing Sunday Night Football. I'm excited. Joe Flacco. Okay. Let's do some, let's do a touchdown parlay because we've got to hit it. Were we two out of three last week? Yeah. I lost. Yeah, no, it was you. Devonte Adams. Yeah, that was a bad pick. Devonte Adams hurt us. So we're going to put up a touchdown parlay in the DraftKings Sportsbook. Every day is game day at DraftKings Sportsbook and now through the end of the year it's extra

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The crown is yours. Who we got? So Max, you in? You in Max? Sure. Garth, get in. I'll hop in. Get in here. I'm gonna go Bichon.

I'm gonna go Josh. Josh Allen. I'm gonna go Kwan. He didn't score last week. So it'll be early. Oh no, no, no. The Eagles are late game. Yeah. Yeah, afternoon. Okay. Four o'clock. I feel good about that.

That's a good one. one yeah that is a good one so go check that out on the draft we were one of three last week just for the record but what were the other two Bryan Robinson was the other one oh okay hmm sorry sorry I just remember sitting there and you being like why did I take Devante no that was a bad pay yeah I don't feel as bad no you shouldn't feel as bad you should not feel as as bad. It was a terrible pick. Uh, okay Should we do our picks? We are bad as a collective unit. I think I'm out of the basement memes is is it top memes is nine and seven I'm eight and eight PFT seven and nine max is six nine and one Hank is six and ten

Yeah, it might be one in five my last six. Hmm We'll be ashamed if you had to go on a bachelor party in golf. I know Okay, who's awesome if it was a bachelor party that didn't go off that'd be big cat I am up first. Oh a lot of pressure shit. I don't like going first here. I Will I will I will I will I will take I'll take the Chargers and the Browns over 43. I Like Jamis Jamis, you'll find a way

Jamis, I will take the Detroit Lions minus three and a half against the Green Bay Packers mmm, I Will take the over in the Lions Packers over 48 and a half. I think the last six games Four out of six went over fun. I'm going to take the opposite of Hank. I will take the Packers plus three and a half Okay, I will take the Packers plus three and a half Okay, I will take the over in that game Memes just took memes you took the over. He did just take the over in that game I will take the day one do the under in Patriots Titans No, no, but I was going to I will take that nice good pay 38. That's a lot of points

fuck You good. You go again. Okay, that's a lot of points. The fuck? You go, you gotta go again. Okay, so in that case, I will take Psychopath, Derek Carr. Minus 7 after Panthers. 7, yep, 7. I will take the under in Giants Commanders, under 44.5. Okay. Vikings minus 5.

Ooh. 44 and a half Okay Vikings minus five I'm going to take the over in the commander's Giants game. Whoa Great offense. I think the Giants is gonna be shootout. Okay, I will take Fuck it I'll take the Bears plus one and a half. I was thinking about it. Yeah, let's just do it. I'd do it. All right. So you know how you said that playing the Panthers is fun? Yeah. I think playing the Cardinals from an offensive standpoint.

Not the pass rush. Yeah, no pass rush would be nice. It would be fun. Okay. We have fantasy fuck boys brought to you by our friends at Body Armor. Body Armor, this segment is brought to you by Body Armor. Real hydration, real ingredients packed with electrolytes, vitamins, and nothing artificial. Body Armor

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How many Will Smiths do you think it is? Uh, three. It's five. Five Will Smiths. Oh shit! Just kidding, it's two. That guy's doing a lot of slapping. I was close.

Getting jiggy with it. Uh, my sit-em? Lil' Dirk. Lil' Dirk. He got caught up in a wiretap, he's bopped, he's going to jail for life. He was trying to get back at King Vaughn's guy. Yeah. He was, yeah.

Yeah, he was riding Vaughn. He said too much on, he said too much on Mike. Now he's riding to the clink. Remember Omartha. My sleeper? Xavier LeGette. Yeah. Xavier.

He might be allergic to seafood. Allergic. But he's not allergic to the end zone, he's gonna get in, he's gonna have a couple T.D.'s. I love it. Take him off the bench, put him in the astat and rotation. I love it. Love that. Love that a lot Mortadelli Mots of Michael Mike Mike Mike bird. Hey, what's up? This is Austin capo Bianco This weekend. I'm starting covering first base. Hmm pretty important thing to do. Oh, it's right there. Oh, where's it?

It's right there right over there. Yeah, but I don't know. Oh, it's right there. It's right, oh where is it? It's right there, right over there. Yeah, but I don't know, I don't feel like running all the way over there. It's a long way away. Respect 90. This week, I'm sitting soup this week actually. Oh, oh, oh. It's been two nights at an Italian wedding soup.

It's very nice this time of year normally, but it's been too hot. Why is it so hot out these days? I miss the days when it was October and it was cold. You put on pants. Say you watch to it remember next week We set our clocks. Set our clocks forward. Yeah, that's right. Absolutely And then my my sleeper this week is TJ Hawkinson. TJ Hawkinson getting back people forget about TJ Hawkinson. TJ Hawkinson's going to score Touchdown this weekend. That's right on TJ. TJ's back. All Alright, what's up fuckers? This is Devin Bacop and Bianco. Hey Devin Bacop and Bianco. My stardom this week is Shohei Otani's interpreter. I hope he bet on the Dodgers to win the World Series and made some bank.

Ipe. Ipe. Ipe. Good job, Ipe. My sit-um is Ryan Clark. He dressed up as Bill Belichick for Halloween and it's fucking freaky. I thought it was funny. I thought it was creepy. I think it's an example of a double standard.

Whiteface. Double standard. Can't do that shit. You know, Ryan Clark, I don't think he used to play when he went out to Denver, which is a smart move, because you go out there, you might turn a little gay. You might start looking at your buddy and be like, hey, the altitude's getting to me. Give me a kiss. Mwah, mwah, mwahhmm and my sleeper this week is gonna be B John three touchdowns for B John Love that three love that. Oh, yeah, that is creepy. How do you how do you say that? Look good?

It doesn't look like Bill Belichick. It's funny. It looks like white chicks. It looks like it's funny It's funny, but it's not it doesn't look like Bill Belichick. I mean, it's funny. It's funny, but it's not it doesn't look like Bill Belichick. I mean, it's to me Halloween is like, you know funny and creative, but he should have just worn the sweatshirt and the wig That's basic to me that it doesn't look like so Belichick Remember those episodes of The Office where Kathy Bates came in that looks like Kathy Bates I expect to have two Great Danes next to her

doesn't look like Belichick Belichick looked great in his suit I mean what do you do he just wore one of Ryan Clark's oh what did you think about uh the shots fired yeah shots fired I mean it's it's petty wars this was Belichick's ex-girlfriend wife wife I believe okay yeah so what happened she wore a kill bill costume she wore kill bill costume and then his new girlfriend dressed up as him when he was the coach of the Giants I don't know if that was a response or coincidence hmm he's got girls fighting over each other I love it dressing up as your boyfriend for Halloween is that's that's kind of strange. Can we see the can we see the young Bill Balachek? Yeah cuz then what? Do you like you kiss her? Kiss yourself?

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That's simply safe.com slash PMT. There's no safe like simply safe. And now here's Julian Edelman. Okay. We now welcome on our very good friend, Julian Edelman. Jules, who now has another podcast, Dudes on Dudes with Gronk, which we're going to get both of you on together in a couple of weeks, but we wanted to have you on to talk ball and also dude, like how many podcasts are you going to do? I think this is it too. We'll do two. Okay. Two? That's a good amount. I think this is it too. We'll do two. Okay. Two?

That's a good amount. Honestly, it's just an excuse for me and Rob to hit the hot tub together and do like a sauna session and then like talk for an hour. And it's been fun. We've literally tried to bring the same routine that we did together for nine years in New England and just try to capture like the locker moments

when you're you know in between meetings you go there and you guys are taking a piss next to each other and you know Rob says oh dude you see how good fucking Ray Lewis looks on film or something like that and just crazy shit like that so it's been fun games with names has been fun dudes with dudes been fun it's cool to have two different kind of concepts or but kind of similar you know like we get to talk about games with on the games with names has been fun, dudes with dudes has been fun. It's cool to have two different kinds of concepts, but kind of similar. Like we get to talk about games on the games with names, and then everyone always wants to categorize

what kind of guy a guy is. And that's kind of what we've been doing on dudes with dudes. You got your stud, your freak, your dudes dude, your whiz, and a dog. So it's been fun to kind of go in there and categorize it and then communicate with the people arguing about nah, this guy's not a dog. He's a whiz

So it's been fun, you know Honestly for me it helps me in my TV world too because the more I like watch the old football that it brings all these memories from like my career that I fucking completely forgot. And then like, it makes it better for everything. So these things are just awesome. keeps my head in the game. Yeah. So what is a dude? What does it do? Yeah, what are the categories of dudes? I it's just show. So whatever. Yeah. What is it? What is it? I want to know. You got your stud. Oh, so a dude is in its own category. No, a dude is just like someone that we all are, man or female, man or girl. You could be a dude. Like a dude's like a bro. Like if you have a seven year old, how old's your kid be, cat?

Five. Five? Are they broing you yet? Yo, he bros me all the time. He goes, what's up, bro? He bros me. I don't, I don't know what she means by it, but that's the same thing as a dude. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So there's five different categories. You got your stud, which is like the athleticism is there the football IQ. He's got the pedigree. He's always been the guy. You got your freak, which is some, a one of one guy. He's just a fucking one of one. There's no one like

them. You know, like a Randy Johnson or like a Randy Moss or some receiver. He's a one of one guy. He's just a fucking one of one. There's no one like him. You know, like a Randy Johnson or like a Randy Moss or some receiver. He's a one of one jumps high, catches a ball, can can freaking, you know, track anything one hander landers. He was just an absolute freak. You got your dog, someone who's like relentless, motivated, maybe had to go the long road, maybe been arrested or something. But he's always been that kind of guy to make big plays when his team needs it. relentless, motivated, maybe had to go the long road, maybe been arrested or something, but has always been that kind of guy to make big plays when his team needs it.

Then you got your Wiz, which that's like an innovative guy. For me, like an intellect guy, someone who comes in clutches, like a Steph Curry, like that dude's like the most unbelievable Wiz. He's literally changed the game of basketball because now like I just remember basketball always being a bigger guys sport now like you see a bunch of these littler dudes it's a space game is three pointers like every kid you go to like the the asphalt I'll be at my daughter's soccer practice and I'll watch the kids playing basketball and like every kid thinks they're Steph Curry they're like eight-year-olds hitting

like trying like they're practicing their their half-court shots that's a whiz it's unreal and then you get your dudes dude the dudes dude is your glue guy you know the guys in the locker room kind of he's not maybe he's not the craziest player on your team but he's kind of that guy that keeps everything together. He could count. You can count on them. Uh, when you're having a low day or you can go have a beer with them, he may not drink, but he'll, he'll be there and just listen to you like a dude's dude. He's a glue guy so that we just categorize these dudes into what kind of dudes they are. I liked that. I like that. So what are we dudes dudes? Yeah, we're not. We're definitely not freaks. I

would say this is what I thought for you to okay. PFT. I think he's a whiz. Okay. I think he's elite with just his podcast wittiness And you were in that category too. But like, it's, it's just, it's different when you're from DC, like the Chicago is like the cheers vibes. So like everyone wants to hang out with you. So I put you in the dudes dude category. You're like, you know, you can, you can, you could be in any room. You could do five different shows, which you both can do that. But like, it's, it's just impressive that like anywhere you're

around people just want to hang out with you because you just seem like a guy that everyone wants to hang out with. What about Hank? That's the most important. Hey, I would say is dog. I give him a dog dog dog. Then he got fired like four times and just back to work. Like he's been fired. He started as an intern didn't get paid for the first 20 years of his career or five years his career. You know, now he's he's kind of worked his way up the rank. He's not max freak. Oh, that's a freak. Max. Yeah, freak for Max that well yet.

Still, I'm still learning Max. We got to get you to do a freak off with Max. Yeah. Max is, uh, I'd say, I'd say, I like big baby takes. He's funny. He's a big freak, big, big freak. That's what that boy Max is. So, uh, big guy on, on, on, on his, uh, on the podcast, though, like when I met, I was like, he doesn't sound like a bigger guy. Yeah. He's powerful. He's powerful, Max. I don't know if you just saw the news, Julian, but speaking of dudes and dudes that do podcasts, I hope I'm not breaking this to you, but you and Gronk did not win sexiest podcast this year. Who won it? The Kelsey's. Was that a doubt? You think so? I don't know. You guys

are pretty sexy. They're pretty, they're, they're, they guys are pretty sexy. They're, they're pretty, they're, they're, they're hot right now. They're, they're, they're, they're on this, the fire right now. Yeah. They also, I saw you guys mention on your podcast that, uh, you and Gronk were saying that, uh, Travis and Taylor should have a kid. So why is it? Oh yeah. So why, why is it okay for you to say that? But we can't who said, you guys said they shouldn't. We were encouraging them to try. We want to try really hard. It would be. Yeah. But we, we, the internet comes after us. It can run around. It could probably dunk. Yeah. Yeah. She'll be a freak. She's a stud kid. Yeah. Yeah. She is a stud. They're both studs that make a freak. Um, Jules, we need to get, we

need to get your take on. I know you've probably said it on a couple other shows, but, uh, tell us the whole drawed Mayo soft thing, how a team responds to that. What, what's going on in new England, right? Well, the team clearly responded. Uh, you know, they go out and got to win against the Jets. We all know that rivalry. And for me with Gerard, I think he was including himself in that. I think he's on that level with the team where he could say that and he knows what buttons to push to get them to clearly respond like they did this week against the Jets.

He's a guy that's played. He communicates in more of a younger fashion, and it clearly worked. So I'm happy for Gerard. And sometimes, hey, you got to call a spade a spade. You can't go out there and lie to the guys and say, go and do a press game conference and give up a million yards in the run game kick return for a touchdown and say things are freaking sunshine and rainbows. You know, you got to press a little put a little urgency in there and he did and they went out and responded. Yeah. Has a coach ever called you soft? Who has any coach ever called you saw? I don't think so. I can't remember your time. Now, you know, maybe like the unit or something, you know, like there's been some kind of

softness communicated, but never like publicly. But that's it's just a different generation. Like they were trying to do that to try to pull a string. Even if you weren't soft, they try to say you're soft because they knew I would get all pissed off and then they would, you know, like that's just a, that's a, that's what coaches have to do. They got to find certain buttons to push to, to make certain guys go. Some guys need to be hurt, hear that stuff and some guys need to be pampered. Uh, so I'm not soft. It's, it happens. A lot of guys get called soft sometimes. Yeah. When they're actually not. Yeah, I don't know. I'm going. Um, you wouldn't know you. You've definitely never been called soft. I like that you, you tried to be like, oh yeah, the

unit. Well, you didn't. Yeah. You did say my unit's been called. Yeah. Oh, I don't know about my, I don't, I just don't want someone to fucking hear this clip and say, we called you soft that one time that one year and I don't fucking remember. So I'm trying to make it gray. Yeah. Yeah. After a little whiskey. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. This never happens to me, babe. Yeah. Don't call my unit soft. Yeah. That's a, listen, Julie, we've all, we've all been there. It's okay. But I film, everyone knows a fucking New England Patriots receivers weren't soft. We were fucking, you know, you guys see everyone blocking the run game and we were excited for that run game. We took pride in that. We had three fucking rules in New England's receiver room. Get opening, catch ball and block. That was

the three things you had to fucking do. Yeah. I think what big guy was about to say was that like, that's the worst thing you can call. Yeah. It's the worst thing you call a team, right? Soft. Uh, I mean, we play a physical sport. It's a physical sport and you know, toughness goes a long way. You look at the last, however many Superbowl champs, they all had some form of characteristic of toughness in their locker room or in their play. So I think that that would be it'd be a tough long day if you heard that you were soft. Yeah. All right. So Jules, we're going to run this Friday before week nine. So I don't really want to go into the past here, but I have to ask about the Tyreke Stevenson,

obviously the Hail Mary. What, when you see that, is that a discipline thing with a football team where it's like, cause it's kind of the old coaching thing. Like either you're teaching it or you're allowing it to happen. Is that, is that wrong for me to say, Oh, as much as Tyreke Stevenson needs blame, it's that's it. That's a coach like coaching, coaching matters and having your guys in the right spot and locked in for 60 minutes matters. And that's kind of like a that's a culture thing. Yeah. If I were to see to see that when I was playing I would look at that like if I saw the highlight of that and I would just say that that's just a bad football team like yeah you know or a bad football team. Like, you know, or a young football team.

They're just, they're young in the mind still. Like they still have good things. And Chicago did some really good things on defense that week or against the Washington Redskins. But like that's competitive stamina. And that's the, those are the little things that separate like a good football program from like a team that's still trying to figure

out what they are and who they are. Like, I don't think I would, would you, would you ever see a Dan Campbell team do that? No, probably. No, definitely not. You know, would you, would you see, uh, you know, one of the hardballs guys, teams do that? No, no, you just you don't. So and I know Matt Eberfluss has walked through that situation probably once a week for the last 23 weeks or however long they've been in OTAs. That's something every team does. And if they don't, we got a problem. So regardless, whatever, whoever's fault it is, it doesn't look good.

It looks like a slapdick organization that like act like you've been there, go out and win a game before you win a game. Especially against such a, it's a conference opponent. There's a lot riding in that game, even though it's a week seven game for your young quarterback that needs a little confidence. You guys go out and win that game. Chicago goes out and wins that game. The confidence of that team's on a different level

than what it is right now. And this is when you need to be your most confident, especially going into the division, which all these teams are gonna have to start battling in the division right now. They put themselves in good positions to get to this situation. That's not what you want.

So hopefully they can turn around. I mean, they got the young guys. They may be too naive to know how big that moment is and like have short enough memory where they just go. You know, that could be spin zone right there for you. Yeah. Okay. I like that. I don't know how big the opportunity they have is right now.

So like, it doesn't matter. You're going to play the same regardless. Yeah. Yeah. I just like that in your, that I've played with. You know what I mean? Like, you don't realize like, hey, it's, it it's like you go out and you have a really bad football play. And like, it doesn't a phase them because they don't realize how big it is. And then they they go make a play after.

So maybe you do that with Chicago Bears. So what's the best way to punish a guy like that? How does it happen in the NFL? I don't know. Like, it would just be like, he's going to run until he throws up. And it was like, okay, we'll run for a while. And then he won't do it again. But at the NFL, obviously they're pros. They get treated a little bit differently. There's a CBA, but are you, can you just make somebody run or do you have to shame them in film room or how does that work?

I think he's probably feeling pretty embarrassed right now and it feels pretty bad. And, and you know the whole team sees that on film like that's the most humbling thing as a player is when like I've had plays where you know I've been stripped touchdown other way against Baltimore you know you fumble in a big crucial situation and that like as a player is like the worst feeling it's's like when you go home, it reminds you a lot of when your mom got your report card and your dad didn't come home yet and you had like a C or maybe a D plus on that thing. She didn't tell your dad yet.

And then you finally have to, he gets to see it and you see the react. Like when you see them's that's scary like that that moment of anticipating the scaredness of what your dad is going to do or say. That's how he's probably feeling going into that film session so if he's if he loves football you know I don't know what the team does I mean I'm sure some of the the leaders are probably going to have a talk with him. The coach should probably have a talk with them. It depends on what kind of guy he is in the locker room too. If this is a thing that occurs a lot, and you can see that in just workplace environment,

if he's a guy that thinks his shit doesn't stink and does that kind of shit all the time, they'll probably be tougher on him. If he's a guy that maybe slipped up and the moment was a little too much for him and he got too excited, maybe he made a mistake. So I don't know what kind of guy the guy is in the building, but I would be terrified going in and having to watch that around my teammates just because of the accountability factor.

Your punishment is you have to take a goal line carry next week from the one. That's probably what Walden's going to do. Yeah. Yeah. That's your punishment. Just like a big, big picture thing. Yeah. No way. Yeah. The big picture thing in the NFL who has been, are you as high on the lines as I am? I was trying to ask a question that would get you to talk about the Lions, but I feel like they are the best team in the NFL right

now top to bottom. The Hutchinson injury is obviously devastating for their defense, but I still think that they right now have the best shot at the Super Bowl that they've maybe ever had in the history of their franchise, and I think they're the best team in the NFL. Do you agree with that? You think I'm crazy? I don't think they're the best team in the history of their franchise, and I think they're the best team in the NFL. Do you agree with that? Or do you think I'm crazy? I don't think they're the best team in the NFL,

but I do think this is the best opportunity that they can go out and have a shot to win the Super Bowl. They're playing really good football. The Hutchinson's injury though does concern me. Like against bad football teams, you don't need a pass rush. And with the offensive line that they have, they can control games and keep the other offense off the field. But the Lions have played so good, they're not in the category of that now. They're at a place where it's NFC Championship or bust,

or it's Super Bowl or bust, because they played themselves in that standard. They played such a good job and they've shown how good they are. So I'm concerned of those games when they have to play against a Lamar Jackson maybe in a Super Bowl or you know a Brock Purdy or or or a Jordan Love and you know when they need to have that third and eight on defense can they get off the field? Like there's gonna be a time where you're gonna have to do that and if you can't man you like that's gonna be a time where you're gonna have to do that? And if you can't man you like that's when the big-name players make their money and their names are in those Situations and they don't have any they have a lot of guys that are working hard And they they play physical fast, but you know they gotta find a way to manufacture that I that's how I think do you think that they could stop Patrick Mahomes on a third and eight to clinch the game?

I don't think so right now. That's how I think. Like all these games, that's good, but can you stop them in the red? They need to get three points in the red area. They can't give up a touchdown. Can they stop them in the red area or could they score a touchdown in the red area? Can Jared Goff go and play from behind? There's a lot of situations we haven't seen.

Yes, he played behind a little bit in that Minnesota game, but I think there was more to that just for the physical factor of Detroit. But they definitely have put themselves in a great situation. I do get a little scared with one thing with the Detroit Lions though. Dan Campbell. I love him to death. Love Dan Campbell, but he needs to evolve his play color, his coaching style. He can't act like he's the hunter anymore, he's being hunted. You're the good team, your culture's in place, we don't have to run a fake punt in the opening drive against a divisional rival on a fourth and three on your 35.

When you, me, everyone in the goddamn stadium knew it was gonna be a fake fucking punt, we can't do that. Like, you don't need to steal a possession anymore. You have a great offense that we're going to score your points. You could do that right now in week seven. You go do that in the playoffs, you'll get eliminated. Good teams will cap on the, or will capitalize on those. And so, like, that's the one thing that worries me with Dan.

And I know he floats that line of reckless and aggressive and he doesn't need to right now. You don't have to. Your team is good enough where you could just sit back and play and let the game unfold itself and use the strengths that you have and you're, it's going to be enough. Yeah, no, it's a good point. I didn't even think about because it is true. Like the, they do have that scrappy underdog, but they're not anymore. They're the best team in the UFC. Yeah. We don't need any more fake punts. I like, I do like it. I like the red. I loved it when he did it and he needed it two years ago. That, I mean, that's where this is a different team. This is a different year. You have different standards. We don't need that.

The recklessness is fun though, just as an outsider. Maybe I'd think differently if I was a Lions fan, but watching them and rooting for them, I do, I enjoy it because you know that Dan Campbell is going to do some fuck shit. I don't think that he's not, you're right. He's not going to stop doing it either. It's like, this is who he is. So love him or hate him. He's going to continue to, to call maybe some unnecessary risks that he doesn't have to take 100%. All right, what team right now are you do you have your eyes on that's maybe four and four or five and three and you're like,

watch out for that. Ram is starting to put Rams. I like I fucking you know, ever since I started working on Fox, I watched this NFC so much more. And I live in L.A. and watching Matthew Stafford. And I talked about it three weeks ago when they played the 49ers. I was like, we had some mariachi with, you know, it was Latin Latino month or something or day. We had the mariachi on the show. And I was like, Matthew Stafford could take this mariachi band out and go and compete.

And if you if you catch him slipping, he'll take advantage and win a game. And that's what he did that week against the Niners and what those last three or four, like kind of hard weeks have been for the Lions have been a great opportunity for to gain depth. I mean, now that you're getting Puka back, Cooper's back, like they look like a completely different team. Kyron Williams is a stud. They found him in the fifth round.

Uh, and now you got like two, two at wells and all these three, four or five receivers that got a lot of opportunity to get experience in those four or five weeks that Pooka and Pooka have been out. So I think they're going to be a tough team. They got a young defense that plays hard, Uh, and it's so hard to bet against Matthew Stafford, man. He competes. It doesn't matter who's in the huddle with him. He finds a way to make the game competitive. He's, he's a, he's a, I think he's a first bout hall of Famer, man. He's a stud. Yes. I've been saying it for a long time. I said it

before. It was cool not to, not to brand the most gifted throwers of the football, man. Yeah. Like we always give Aaron and Aaron, they're deservingly so but like, I feel like he's like an Aaron in my home's hybrid. We're like he gets that pop that that Aaron got. But he also has been changing arm angles and doing no looks back in Detroit 1015 years ago, just we didn't talk about it because they're getting their teeth kicked in. Yeah. Yeah.

So this episode is coming out, I think, the day after Halloween, right? Yeah. November 1st. Yeah. You were on the Patriots for the Belichick Halloween costume thing, right? Where he dressed up like a pirate? Yeah. Tell me about the process behind that because I remember at the time watching it on TV and

all the players were shocked that Bill Belichick actually did something fun and went all out for Halloween. So what was that like him? And did you get the invite to it? I didn't go. I didn't go. I was a rookie. I think I was a rookie that year. And like, I was still like trying to make the team. I was like bouncing around and I wasn't, I couldn't have fun with like the superstars and the coaches yet. So but, you know, it was pretty crazy because we all saw it on the Internet like the next day, like the guys that weren't there. It was it was pretty or heard about it.

You know, everyone was talking about it. Randy was talking about it. Randy. Randy always talked about the Halloween party, but then didn't get any inside look. Don't have any info on that. I know he looked like he had a fun time having his baby. Yeah. The, uh, uh, you mentioned Rogers. So this coming out after the Thursday night game, but what, what did the jets do? Is it, is it Aaron Rogers or is it everything else around him? Because it's a disaster, an absolute

disaster how the season has started for them. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a tough, I don't know. I've never been in that situation. Um, but you know, whenever things were like state of the union type, like feelings around the building and like we thought the sky was falling after like maybe a two game slide, like what you really have to do to get out of that slump and we all just got was falling after maybe a two game slide. What you really have to do to get out of that slump, man, we all just gotta worry about one game. Can we just stop with the noise every week? We don't wanna hear about this, we don't wanna hear about that.

Let's just put all our time and energy and trying to do everything we can to go put our best performance on Sunday for three hours. That's all we gotta do this Okay. If we're receivers, let's go study our third down plan. So when we know it's third and sixth, we know we're getting that defensive coverage, we can spit out the play call. That's how fast and on a great page we are. Let's worry about our job. That's all they got to do. And it's tougher, I It's tougher, I guess, said than done. Uh, and I can't explain a lot of the actions and what they've done. They put a lot of, it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like one of those, those, have you

seen those rubber things where you watch those infomercials and you know, you can see the guys slap something on the boat as a hole in it and it stops the water. Yeah. Yeah. Flex seal. Yeah. One of those. They need flex seal. I think that stuff works though. It definitely works. Like, yeah, I have seen the commercials. The guy that like builds a canoe out of it. You know what I thought about? And I'm gonna catch some slack for this. But the way the organizations are are ran the last few years and the jets are like, I've seen like the Oakland Raiders, the West Coast jets or the Raiders, the East Coast or the jets, the East Coast Raiders.

Like they just, these organizations just seem like they do such desperate moves so fast. Like they do the same shit. Is it like hiring Tom Brady as an owner? No, that I think that's going to change it, baby. I said last year, did you hear what you see? I word that last. Yeah, that was very smart. It's not now. Right. You should be excited. I just, it's the teams, the teams that try shortcuts. There's, there's no shortcut to winning in the NFL. You got to build a roster through the draft and free agency, not just

free agency, not just that. Like you just can't do shortcuts. It feels like it's bro. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta put it in the bank as Belichick would say, put it in the fucking bank run. Yeah. These are just deposits. A lot of times around this, this time of the season, I look around the NFL and I just imagine like what the most bummer teams to play for would be like, like punching that clock, going into work every day. You don't really have it. You have to like invent reasons to be excited. Would they be number one? Cause I feel like there's a couple, there's a handful of teams that I think would be bummers to play for

in various different ways, but you think the Panthers number one. Yeah, dude, it looks, I don't know, man. It's tough over there. And I feel bad because you know they're working hard. They just don't know how to work probably or whatever they're doing. It's not right. But you know, they're professional athletes and they're working, I guarantee they're working hard. That's got to be so tough to, to, you know, try to go

into work and put a good practice in and string together three or four good practices and then get your teeth kicked in every Sunday. I, I, that's, that's, that would be tough. That'd be tough. You know, I've never, I've never experienced that in my career. I felt that at Kent State. Yeah. Felt that at Kent, but we were always dangerous. We were a dangerous team. We weren't getting blown out. So we weren't even like the Panthers, man. We'd go battle some big teams. We'd be the BCS team at Kent State. We'd be Iowa State back in the day. So like, you know, we were that dangerous team. I would say we were more like, um, we were more like Arizona. We were more like Arizona. We're like, if they put it all together, they don't turn the ball over. They got some really

good football players and the quarterback is, is athletic and can make some plays. But if he turns it over, it's not good. So what about a team that, that had expectations that hasn't lived up to them? I'm speaking like more like the Cowboys. If you're on a team like that, they seem like they would be a bummer to play for right now, but for a very different reason than the Panthers who just, you know, they, they were rebuilding. They kind of knew that didn't have a lot of expectations, but down in Dallas, things just seem like the vibes are way off. Yeah. Stress, stress seems high. Stress levels in the building are high right now. You can feel it. I feel it. Yeah, that's one of those positions where the Dallas Cowboys are always going to have

that microscope. And there are certain things they could have addressed at the end of the year that maybe they... I don't know. I'm'm not in the books I don't know how their teams built but you know when you pay You know high top dollar for three or four players You know you usually lose depth or you can't have that that mid player guy that is very productive You know then you know so I just think there's a whole lot that goes into that They're off, you know, I think they need to find a running game. That's how Dak has had all his success. It's always been off the play action,

let's stay ahead of our account, and not to have running back that can handle that and that they can build off of. I was a little disappointed. So they gotta find a way to manufacture some run. I know Davin Cook came out, but he don't look, he looks a little, you know, he needs a couple more. Maybe, uh, Hunter Lepke season. Well, Lepke, they're full back. Hey, you seen that guy? Yeah. That's a dog dog. We'll start run with the dog. Hey, they built out their little that whole

team. San Francisco is kind of disappointed me too though. Honestly. Yeah. Yeah. They feel like that's also injury. Say it again. That's also injuries in like, you know, the weird stuff going to training camp. But yeah, they, they feel like they're way better than their record and they should be able to put some more games together. Yeah you know I you know this is National Football League. I mean Kansas City's had a lot of big injuries over there may not have been on the defensive side but on offense and they've had the mental toughness to find ways to win games. I think that's clearly what it is in San Fran. I mean, I love them. They're a good football team. I root for them.

That's my childhood team. But like they act like they've already won the Super Bowl. Like the way they play and stuff to me, they need a little more mental toughness. There's always a story out there. Someone's hurt, someone's shot, someone's this, someone's that, guy doesn't, guy's not playing, wants more money.

This guy, like there's so many things that go on over there. Like how can you not have a bad season? Like how can you focus on the games? We don't, we don't focus on anything, but what's going on outside the game. That's like, that's what I feel, you know, over there. Like, yeah, you guys are banged up. Yeah, you don't have Christian McCaffrey,

but let's, let's fucking put our energy in. Let's go fucking let's go take this opportunity and make some names like that's that's what you have to do in the National Football League. You're a good football team, you know, and that's why you look at Kansas City. They're dealing with the same shit, you know, and they're they find ways to win games even when the quarterbacks not play even when Pat's not playing that great. Yeah. That's a team. What about in Pittsburgh? That's a team thing.

Sometimes the offense ain't putting up the points. Defense looks at you and say, Hey boys, we got you. Hey, Hey, we got you. Just don't turn that shit over. All right, man. We got you. There's sometimes with the defense, Hey, we got you. You guys can't stop a link right now.

We're going to score points. You know, that's, that's, that's what a good team does. Finds ways. Special teams. Hey, we need a fucking touchdown. Let's get one teams teams in need right now. We don't got shit. That's it. That's exactly why I like Pittsburgh because I feel like Pittsburgh's defense has been saying to their offense for years. Like we got you. We'll go out there and we'll keep it interesting for you. And now that their offense is like, maybe we'll get you a little bit. Yeah, Pittsburgh's sneaky, man.

You got to tip your cap to Tomlin and have the balls to do what he's done. And it looks like it's working out, because Russ, that team right now reminds me and gives me like, I'm not saying they are, but it's like those Legion of Boom Super Bowl teams. Russ Wilson throws a teardrop here deep ball There's got an explosive receiver to get a good run game play really good defense of special teams

Like that's how they won in Seattle So, you know Russ is hopefully he can build off this, you know He's not gonna have the same kind of running that he did in those days But maybe he's learned to be able to dump the ball off in which he's he has These last couple games and they've looked pretty good. Yeah, they have five and two man. Five. Wait, no. Are they five and two? Six and two. Six and two top of the top of the AFC North. Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's fucking talk about a team that just ignores the

noise. Talk about a team that we don't even got a goddamn starting quarterback at the beginning of the year. And you know, we got all these stories, who's a quarterback, who's not, this guy's getting traded at receiver, this, that, and what, there's six and two. That's a good football team. That's a football team right there.

Yeah, we were talking earlier about their record on Monday Night Football. I think they're 22 and 0 in their last 22 games at home on Monday night. Is there a difference? Can you feel a difference in a game that's played at night versus a game that's played at 1 PM on a Sunday? 100%.

Night games, you feel the electricity. Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football, those feel the electricity. Sunday night football, Monday night football. It's crazy. It used to be early in my career, Monday night football was the thing. It was the only show on. Then later, Sunday night football caught up to it and that became where everyone was at the you know everyone is the nightcap like that's where everyone's watching and there's definitely a lot more electricity in those night games especially with the matchups usually have in those games you know they're gonna put a crappy game on one of those in theory so there's it's always been fun to play in those night games, you know, when everyone's watching everyone's watching. We played a lot of those.

Um, all right. Well, Jules, I know you got to run in a second. I have one last question for you. Everyone tuned into dudes on dudes, also games names. We're going to have Gronk and Jules back on in, in, in a month and talk some more ball with them. But my last question, row back question, R H L B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, ro back.com promo code take is bill Belichick going to coach again? Hell yeah. Okay. So that's a hell yeah. That's definitely like he's cause he's doing great at media. Yeah. And you gotta probably be a little like, what the hell is this? He's, he's, he's way nicer than he was when he

was our coach, but he's, he's not lost. He's definitely going to coach again. Last few weeks. If you notice his little, he's, he's been getting a little, you know, I always said early in the thing, it's all sunshine rainbows with Bill on the media, real good TV and real good podcasting will be put on like this five, 20 worst plays and fucking that weeks of football and then have him break down that film. And you've kind of seen a little bit of that recently. That's real entertainment. This like fun stuff is, that's not fun,

but I think he's been doing great. But I do think he loves football and he wants to coach, man. I think this could be all part of his master trick of trying to get back in and show that he's like young and cool You know like that's that's part of his plan, but you know I think he wants that record. I don't know he's never told me I'm speaking for myself coach Belichick, so don't be coming at me But yeah

If I was a gambling man, I think you'd be Yeah, I think he'd be, he, he, yeah, I think he wants that. I absolutely. Yeah. I love how much he hates bad football. Oh, it's the best. Yeah. He's just disgusted by it. I got flashbacks. Who, who was he talking about? It was something to do with, Oh, the jet. Yeah. He don't like the jets. No, he doesn't. No, he hates the jets. Yeah. And he's got grudges, which I, which I appreciate. This guy comes in. He's been off the field once past the quarterback every time every year. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're starting to get a little tamed. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. It's good stuff. My last

question for you, Jules, I don't know if you've seen maybe my favorite new TV show, but it's the Aaron Hernandez American Sports Story that they've got on FX. Have you had the chance to watch it? Because they put you on. You were in the in the TV show. I don't know if you know that they they reenacted one of your scenes where you caught a little pass out in the flat and then ran and got tackled immediately. I think you actually bobbled the pass on the team. You think you bobbled that one? I heard Aaron on that, on that play. I got rolled up. They, they sniffed it out and they, uh, it was basically like a, we, we, uh, spread it out. It was a stack position. Threw it out to me like a slip screen or something like that. And uh spread out. It was a stack position. He

threw it out to me like a a slip screen or something like that and they read it. It was three on two. So, they dove in and he really, you know, I don't think he really blocked him or he didn't block anyone and the guy came in. I fell up

on his ankle and I fell. I didn't look that unathletic though. I looked pretty athletic doing it. Like I'm like, well, I saw, I saw in the reenactment that they did. You didn't even catch the ball cleanly. You like bobbled it a few times. And then I went back and I watched the real thing. You caught your pass cleanly. I thought that was kind of fucked up that they did that to you. See, I don't even remember if I caught it cleanly. Yeah, I think you did. I think it was a

great catch. And they made you look like a schmuck. Yeah, you probably enjoy watching it. They do a great job portraying a Welker. Wes Welker has a very significant part in that show i haven't even watched i've watched a couple of the clips i watched like probably the shit you guys post uh the belichick scene was the best yeah that i saw that scene i saw that scene that could be hasn't got the balls to ask him if he does it yet i want you gotta ask him i don't think he did it but but maybe he did it. Maybe they had inside track. Maybe Belichick was rocking out to Bon Jovi who was in the locker room a bunch. You know, yeah, yeah. He's a friend of the organization, bill and the crafts. Um, all right. Well, Jules, thank you. We love you. Uh, and we'll talk to you soon and

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Super Bowl champion coach, legend of the game. Coach, great to see you first of all. We've been friends with you now for, yeah, we're saying like six, seven years, so you are fully retired-ish. Ish. Ish. Let's start with that.

How is fully retirement-ish? Because when we saw you, you still had a Super Bowl to win. Oh yeah, it was still go time back then. Yeah. And now it's, after the first year, I went to practice every day, went to the games, and had that little incident down in New Orleans where I wasn't on sidelines anymore,

but I thought I was around too much. You know, I had guys looking at me, not Todd, and I gave the team to Todd, it's your team, man, let's go. So I went to the lake the last couple years and I didn't know golf in the fall was so much fun, man. It's pretty cool. Do you still watch all the games? You sit down on Sunday?

I've got all four of them on at the same time, that's bringing broadcasts and I love the game. I really do. I hate not being a part of it, but it was time for me to get out. Yeah. Yeah. So I know that it was probably a tough decision for you because you've been off and on retired.

I feel like what? How many times did you walk away from coaching? Like five? Just twice. Just twice? But yeah, like twice officially. But then I'm sure that there were promises behind the scenes where you're like, I swear this is my last year, honey.

But so when you officially retired, retired, walked away, um, did you, did you think about coming back one more time this time? No, you know, actually I had a dream the other night and I took a job and I woke up sweating like, what the f**k? It was like a nightmare. My wife said, you had a nightmare. I said, yeah, it was a nightmare. I was coaching again.

Jamus just threw another interception. We love Jamus. Uh, we're, we're big big fans of James Winston on this podcast. I know that as a coach you probably loved him at times and other times probably made you want to pull your hair out. Yeah, I mean that's the beauty of James. I mean it's exciting. Yeah.

It's one thing and no one works harder. He and I go, I had this little football camp in Birmingham way back when my son and I and James won the quarterback competition in 10th grade. Oh wow. So I've known him forever and the legend of Jay Boo in Birmingham is big you know. So I've always been a fan and it was one of the reasons I kept back in coaching. You know I love Jason Light, I like Tampa's situation. I thought we could win with Jamis and I think staying with Byron Lefwich did with him that first year 5100 yards 33 touchdowns the 30 interceptions would have come

down but the last two we had to look behind door number two yeah yeah it was just the last two yeah and and not knowing behind door number two is gonna be Tom Brady right you know or or we're Brady. Or we'll stick with Jameis and make him better. Yeah, we're rooting for him. Whenever he gets in and gets an opportunity. Yeah, and at the end of the game, he had the good Jameis and the bad Jameis on his last two throws.

But you know what, when the good is good with Jameis, it's excellent. Oh, there's hardly any better. He can make throws very few people can make. How was, what was it like when you made the switch from J switch from James to Tom Brady where it's like Tom Brady comes in and he's he's Tom Brady he's got six Super Bowl rings at the time and You're the coach. It's your team But that's a that's a crazy like amount of you know a pull of gravity with Tom Brady in the locker room

Did you feel it when he when he came and, cause we couldn't be in the locker room. Oh yeah, it was COVID. Yeah, yeah. COVID hit in March. And so we don't even, my wife met Tom Brady for the first time on the stage at the Superbowl. Holy shit. That's how crazy that year was.

Wow. That was a crazy year. And to play those games in empty stadiums and we pull into Chicago, we pull into New York, it's night game and there's no energy. It took a long time to get used to that. But no, so with Tom, it was like, thank God Blaine, Blaine would take, they would all go over

to the Yankees facility and start throwing. And Blaine Gabbard was basically giving him the offense. You know, and this is how we do it. And he says, can you run it like this, I like it better this way? And I told Blaine, whatever he likes, good. We'll fix it. And so we don't meet till the first day at training camp. And no preseason games, and it was such a weird year.

Immediately in training camp, did you know, okay, this guy's still got it? We knew he had it. We broke down every throw he made for the last three years. I didn't see any drop off. And so he was extremely mobile inside the pocket, just like Peyton. You would never say Tom's going to run anywhere. So that was our offense anyway.

Just getting him to push it up the field a bit further than he was normally used to yeah the no risk it no biscuit he probably enjoyed that though when you said we're so bombing this it really did it really came to fruition in the most meaningful game we're Atlanta we got a win to get in and we're down 17 nothing halftime it's like Tommy, JPP's taking care of the defense right now. He's going off over there, right? We're throwing the ball down the field every play.

Here's the home runs, here's the play actions. We're playing this way till the season's over. He says, I'm in. And we score every time we touch it in the second half and end up winning that game, get the touchdown in Green Bay at halftime, we get the touchdown in the Super Bowl at halftime. It's just the way we played and he embraced it.

It was great. Yeah. Has there ever been a time when you've had to hold yourself back and be like, I can't take as many deep shots? Because I know that you are in love with a deep ball. It's your favorite play. You love bombing it deep.

You select your quarterbacks based on who can throw the ball down field. Has there been a time where you've had to hold yourself back and be like, I need to change the way that I coach and we can't take shots down field? No, because every shot we take down field is a smart shot. There's a short pass in it, there's an intermediate pass in it,

but if we got the matchup downtown for the 30 yarder or the touchdown, don't pass it up for that short one. Yeah. All right, but you gotta be smart about it. And all the guys that I've had, that's really the no risk, no biscuit part, okay? Is to read it out. Know when it's time to throw it up there.

And we threw a lot of balls down the field, but they were a lot of times in five step drops, not seven step drops. Yeah. Hey, like going through your career, it's so incredible how many Hall of Famers you were around. And one guy who's going to be in the Hall of Fame, Mike Evans, we don't, we're on this podcast we're big on like, hey, people need to talk about Mike Evans more because he is

getting into that rarefied air of receiver. Obviously he's hurt right now, but what is it about Mike Evans? Like he's just every year, it's a thousand yards. It's insane. Yeah, my man is so consistent. Works great, he's a great worker. He's a fantastic human being.

He's been the Walter Payton man of the year for the Bucks two or three times, and what he does in the community way outshines what he does on the field. He's that good, but he is such a unique big man. You know, he's 6'5", his weight is down, but he can drop his hips and he can get in and out of breaks and can make that long man catch.

You know, as a quarterback, when you're throwing it to a 5'7 guy whose circle might be this big and you're throwing to a guy that's 6'6, that's easy for a quarterback, man. You know, and especially when we can drop it over shoulder or put it up high on the back shoulder, he can make all those catches. Yeah. Yeah. And we were talking before we started taping here about, you recommended a book to me, Best Assistant Coach Ever by Tom Moore. Legendary, legendary assistant coach. You were an assistant coach for almost all your career until the end and then you finally got your shot first as interim with the Colts, the Cardinals, and then obviously the Bucs.

But you were one of the best assistant coaches in the NFL, I feel like, for decades. Is there a quality? Because we talk about backup quarterbacks and what their job is and how they might have a different role than a starting quarterback, but you can be a great backup quarterback with a great assistant coach. What makes the difference between a guy that can stick around for 10, 12 years being a great assistant and a guy that's just viewing that job as a transaction to get to the next level?

Yeah, I think Coach Bryant gave me great advice way, way back. You get a job, you want a better job, you work your ass off at this job to get a better job until you get that job you're looking for. Then you work your ass twice as hard to keep it. For me, I didn't really think I'd ever be a head coach. After Super Bowl XLIII, Steelers offensive coordinator, we go down the field two minute drive and win the game,

I didn't get one phone call. That's crazy. Every other offensive coordinator from the Steelers got a head coaching job after that. And so I was like, it's not in the cards. And you know, it took Chuck getting sick, which is a shame, that I got a chance, and I never ever allowed myself

to be called the head coach. Chuck was always the head coach. And what that team did, if you put that team on paper, you'd say they win two games. Rookie quarterback, two rookie tight ends, rookie receivers, rookie running back, rookie left tackle, all right, and guys coming off the street playing defense.

And they went 11. Because they had a cause. And that cause was Chuck. You know, and we rallied, we never said one, two, three, win, it was always one, two, three, Chuck. You know, and so I always thought, if you gave professional athletes a real cause to play for Sky's limit. Yeah, so why why weren't you getting calls until that point?

I don't know. I did all the interviews. I maybe go to outspoken. Was that it? Yeah, like when you would do an interview, would you would you always hit a moment where you say you? Speak your mind you're like, oh shit. that probably went bad. I never had one, but I would have. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I did. I did the NFL films. I mean the NFL network thing they do for prospective head coaches. And uh, basically I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear. I'm gonna tell you the truth. Right. You know, the truth hurts sometimes, but you're going to get the truth every time. That was your problem. That's what happened with the bears where maybe, yeah, I was sitting in the room waiting to get the call I thought I had the job. I did too, you know and

I think there's a couple different things that were involved in that one. Yeah, they're a fake press conference involved Yeah, is that what they wanted to do? And we did a whole we did a whole press conference yeah, there was like 20 or 30 other people out there and You know, I had gotten sick the week of the Baltimore game with Vertigo out of nowhere I think was the stress of the season to tell you the truth because I never had it since and guy kept harping on it I said man I'm fucking fine I'm good you know so I say had a long meeting with Jay Cutler that day and I had a real long meeting with Rod Marinelli. Mm-hmm and

You know Rod they kept saying Rod was staying and I said no Todd Bowes is gonna be the defensive coordinator and I think that was the deciding factor. Yeah, and Rod told me I'm not staying Yeah, you know, so yeah, that's and it's some organizations Don't they're just kind of getting their own way with those type of things where it's like Yeah, they had that had that defense for a long time one stay with it. Yeah, and yeah, and they just don't they can't line things up correctly So I want to go back your your relationship with with Bear Bryant How did you get Alabama to come to temple because Alabama played a game at temple? Yeah when you were the coach That's crazy. Alabama

doesn't go to Temple. So what happened to get that to happen? And did we like, were fans, did fans show up? We had about 38,000, 30,000 Alabama fans and our normal, our normal 8,000 temple fans. And it was the opener and they were good too. I mean, Bill Curry was the head coach I believe then. And, but yeah, it was, you know, when I took the job, I talked to the assistant athletic director and said, look, we'll come down there twice.

You've come to us once. And coach, this was right before coach passed away, he said, let's do it. You know, and so it was a big moment because we had scheduled Nebraska, Tennessee. I tried to copy everything that Miami did with Howard Schnellenberger, being at inter-centry school, try to get the local talent and go play the best

and get on television. Yeah. You know, and it kind of worked for us. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just so funny thinking of Alabama playing at Temple. All that houndstooth in Philadelphia showing up for a road trip.

Yeah, it's just a wild thing. That'd be a good one. And then I think a lot of people might not realize this, but I think you're still the all time leading touchdown score for quarterbacks at Virginia Tech. Is that right? Yeah, you can win a lot of money with that. You get a lot of money. I think everybody would say, I think you go Michael Vick, Marcus Vick, maybe Logan Thomas, Tyrod Taylor, Jim Druckenmiller, a bunch of them. But it's Bruce

Arians and yeah people forget about that. So how did you realize that you wanted to get into coaching after, you you were pretty accomplished college quarterback? I was a good scout team quarterback. Don Strach was accomplished you know you talk about backup quarterbacks been my man is probably the best it's ever been. Backed on up for a couple years and then you know we switched coaches and went to the Wishbone that was kind of found my offense. You know we were Dan Henning passing team and leading the nation in passing. Coach Sharp came in from Alabama

and we put in the wishbone. I actually was gonna graduate and apply for two junior high jobs. I didn't get either one. Or I'd have never gone back. Oh wow. That's crazy. Yeah and then met the new coach.

We hit it off and he really jump started my career. Yeah. He started me in coaching, he got me to Alabama with Coach Bryant those, his last two years, and Jimmy Sharp, I owe everything to Jimmy Sharp. One of the greatest coaches I've ever known. What was the, what was the maddest that Peyton Manning ever was at you?

Would he get mad at you? No, no, Peyton, Peyton was as even keeled as a player. If he was gonna get mad, it's because I didn't have enough film, I didn't have meeting time ready for him. If we had 45 minutes, I just get two hours worth. Now the other two poor son of bitches couldn't take notes that fast.

Poor Kelly, Kelly Hogan was like,, man I can't write that damn fast. Peyton just, he's writing everything down. You know, he had books and come books of notes and but yeah I had a lot of fun during the Manning cast last year and Eli said do you rather be introduced as Super Bowl 55 winning head coach or the quarterback coach who led Peyton Manning 28 interceptions as rookie here. I said, I'm gonna take those 28, man. Cause I saw us get better and they all got erased and we went 13-3 the next year.

That Peyton Manning season screws up everyone else cause they always point to it and they're like, well Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions. But he's Peyton Manning. And you said it, I mean like, you got better every single week. I think 18 to 20, we're in the first 8 to 10 games. Yeah. And then as we went through the division again, they were disappearing. Yeah. And it's like yeah we're 3 and 13 but man it's fun to go to practice every day

because we saw ourselves getting better every single week you know. Yeah. And today's NFL I feel like if a quarterback goes out there I mean, we've seen a couple guys that in their first couple seasons You just say okay, I can't do with this guy. He makes too many mistakes There was too many turnovers, but 28 interceptions in a rookie season if that happened now I feel like people would be calling for him to be benched before he'd be gone. He'd be benched after 15 Yeah, they don't give him the chance to learn. So so how did you buy time? How did you how did you convince people like, Peyton's on the right track. He's going to work through this.

The talent's there. We just got to give him some time to work it out. Give all the credit to the two leaders. We had two of the best leaders in all of football. We had Bill Polly, the general manager, and Jim Moyer, his head coach. And it doesn't get any better than those two. And they were a great pair together.

So it's just, this is who we are. This is what we're gonna do. And the fans were coming. You know, it wasn't like the fans were like booing us or getting us out of it. They saw us getting better and better and the hope was already there. And it came to fruition like that the next year.

Yeah. Is there any quarterback, I guess I'm thinking in particular of Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson. Two guys that their teams have kind of said, okay I we can't win with these guys right now. We need to be able to compete with the backups Do you see anything from those players that would make you as an offensive coach say there might be something there? Oh I saw Bryce win the national championship with with maybe better players than he's playing with now. Yeah, you know Championship with maybe better players than he's playing with now.

Yeah. You know, when you look at the receivers he had at Alabama, you know, he can do it. He's shown he can do it in the right system. His stature scared me, because when you start doing comparables, which I did for 27 years, I'd always break down all the quarterbacks

and you know, I wouldn't say he's like this guy, but his measurables Were like this guy yeah, all right There weren't any Bryce's there weren't any Johnny Manziel's At that size and stature that made it in the NFL Doug Flutie took years in Canada to get there. Yeah, you know so Anthony I Think the Colts got caught up in what happened with Jalen Hurts in Philly. They hire Shane, they're gonna copy that. But Anthony's stats didn't match.

Right. His ability, and ability doesn't make a quarterback. Now you gotta win two minute third down. I don't give a shit how fast you run, how high you jump. You know, Cam in his young years, he could win two minute third down till he got all broken up from running. You know, and his arm was gone.

But if you can't show me that you can do that in college, to me you're not a quarterback, you're an athlete, and athletes play in college. Yeah. And they spread the field and they just tear people up. Yeah. But he didn't exactly tear people up in college. Yeah.

You know, it was just combine superstar. It's like when he was in college, you saw a lot of the same things that you see in the NFL where it's like this guy He's got all the tools Right, but it's not the consistency. It's like mental process. He has the arm strength. He has the leg speed But that's not how you play quarterback. Yeah, the two muscles you play quarterback with are your heart and your brain? I like that. I like so do you think like the Colts? What do you think the future is cuz it in terms of like benching a guy after he's what started

eight games or something like that, that's gotta be a confidence thing now where you're taking that away and, and like, can you go back to them? Are you giving up on him? How does that work? I don't think you can give up. You got too much invested already. It's just a matter of let's get to the playoffs this year

and let's continue to grow him. You know, maybe he can learn some more, give him some snaps in practice, maybe give him a package to play in a game. But you gotta ride with Joe right now to get you to the playoffs. If you get in the playoffs all bets are off, man, you can win the Super Bowl.

Anything can happen. I've been six seeded two different places, went on the road and won them all, and got the ring, so anything can happen. You just gotta get there. And Joe gives them probably the best chance to get there right now. And that's gonna save the locker room.

Cause players all wanna go to the playoffs. Yeah, yeah. So I asked about Peyton, what about Ben? Was he ever, was there ever a moment where he was really pissed at you? A bunch. Yeah, what would he get mad about? The way I was cussing out the receivers,

man, you ever talk to me like that? I said, well, how would I talk to you like that? These are the receivers, man, you're the quarterback. Yeah. All right, so when I first took over as coordinator, we'd play golf and we'd have that conversation. Like, hey, man, you gonna yell at me like you yelled at those guys?

I said, don't make me. Uh-huh. I don't think you're gonna make me. Yeah. So, you know, we've always had a great, he always loves telling the story. I'd always chew out the backup quarterback for the starter. Like Drew Stanton, he can tell the stories.

Charlie Batch, Byron Lefwich. And I had my hand on the button, not knowingly, to Ben. I was like, Charlie, what the fuck is he thinking, man? Can you get his ass straight? Okay, Ben. Here's what we're gonna do, buddy Really you got your hand on the button dude, I can hear you Do it look tells the exact same story. So So you would do it through the backup? Oh, you rip the backup quarterbacks ass all the time. Yeah Like you got a filter

Filt in it's like so the you're true Drew Stan finally. I got it filter. The filter is built in. It's like, so you're back. Drew Stanton finally went, I got it, man. I got it. I got him. To play backup quarterback for Bruce Arians, you have to be able to translate Bruce Arians to the starting quarterback. Totally. And have like a cool demeanor to you. Yeah, Blaine Gabbard, Drew Stanton, Charlie Betts, Byron Lepp, those are all those kind

of guys, man. Yeah. So I know that when Tom was up in New England, he got famously kind of tired of being rubbed the wrong way by the coaching staff or treated differently by the coaching staff up there. When Tom came down to Tampa, did you have to treat him differently from the other players because he's Tom Brady and he's got all the Super Bowl rings already or did you make a point to say I'm gonna cuss him out in the meetings just like I cuss everybody else out? Yeah I mean he knew me. He'd already done his

homework. He talked to Ben, he'd talked to Peyton and they're good friends. So it's like, Tommy, this is how we do it, all right? Tell me how you see the game. Without spring that year, it was so hard to get a feel for how he saw the game. We couldn't have those meetings and go through the game film and the practice film

and see it, we were on such a crash course of how I saw the game which was totally different than the way he saw the game. And as we're going along through the season, we start seeing it the same way. And Byron Lefwich did an unbelievable job with our offense that year, being the middle man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, so was there a game or a moment that you were like, oh, this is now, we're now lockstep, we got this. Yeah, it was halftime of the Falcons game. I think we're seven and five. We gotta have it. We're down 17 zip. And- That was it.

Bro, we're cutting it loose from here on out. Yeah. You know, no more check downs, baby. We're going down the, we gotta score every time we touch it. And that's kind of the way we played it all the way through the Super Bowl. Yeah. You know, no more no more check downs, baby. We're going down. We gotta score every time we touch it and and that's kind of way we played it all the way through the Super Bowl. Yeah. I know that you have a deep hatred for prevent defense. It's bad defense. Bad. And I I wanna I wanna give you

permission to maybe educate us. Maybe talk to us uh maybe over our heads a little bit but get it as detailed as you want on why you hate prevent defense so much. Well, first of all, it's normally zone, and a really good quarterback will pick zone apart. And if you're only rushing three, all right, I don't care how many zones you think you have covered, he's got the answers. Right. He got the answer to that test. Yeah. If the great quarterbacks know what you're doing, you're done. You know, let me go back to Pittsburgh Cleveland. We talked earlier. We got a 17-point lead in the playoffs. Kelly Holcomb is playing lights out. And we decided to play prevent defense from the middle of the third quarter on and blow a 17-point lead to Tommy Maddox who will light you apart

without a pass rush and they came back and beat us and I've always no risk in no biscuit for me goes the defense too. Yeah, when I was a head coach at Temple game got tight I only knew one call all outlets cover zero Go sick them and I'd get on them. No coach Coach, I don't give a shit if we go down, we're going down with the guns blazing, baby. And that's how we play. I love that. So for you, it's more about the overall philosophy, the overall mentality. Yeah. I mean, I looked at Detroit, Blitz the Hail Mary the other day, Sack them. All right. It's a great play. Still had a bunch of guys back there, but go ahead and get the pressure on them. And I see Chicago and Washington do the exact opposite and give them a chance at that damn play, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. The ultimate, yeah. I mean, even the play before that, the ultimate pre-vote defense, you go ahead, you take these 14 yards, have at it. Yeah. You're just preventing yourself from winning. Basically, you're giving them a chance. Yeah, so back to the Anthony Richardson, Bryce Young thing, there's been a big discussion, especially this week, that the NFL is now failing quarterbacks and guys are not getting enough time and that maybe the college game has affected guys' development.

Do you see that at all or is it just, I think it's simply, there's some guys that can now play till their 30s late 30s and there's only 32 spots and Guess what? It's a really really hard thing to break into totally sports science has changed it, you know guys are playing 40 45 years old and there's no drop-offs right because of the sports science we have now and But I think more guys are coming out of college as passers than ever before.

Because of high school seven on sevens and seven on sevens around the AAU and everything that we have in the passing game from 10th grade on. So the passers are there. Now are we developing them mentally to read a whole defense or just as a half field shit and one two run, too much run two run, you know, because they're putting the best athletes back there.

And so it's like one two take off, that does win in college, I'm not against that, but it doesn't necessarily win in the NFL. Yeah, you gotta win from the pocket. Like Lamar, it's saying like, oh yeah, Lamar Jackson is a one of one unicorn and he can beat you with his arm, too. Lamar can spin it coming out of college. It was a little bit raw,

but when I look at him and Michael Vick, I thought he spun it more accurately than Mike did coming out. Now Mike got better, Lamar's there now. And Todd Monkin's done a great job with that offense. And his development of a pocket passer, it's just pick your poison, man. You gonna let him throw those zone plays

or you gonna bump out there and let him take off up the middle? Because he's gonna gain more up the middle than you let him throw that little screen pass out there. And it's just, I mean, it's hard, like you can't replicate Lamar Jackson. That's the other thing. Now, if you rock the coverage, they do so many good things offensively,

but now you got a number one player back there. You know, they got a number one pick back there that they used, didn't used to have. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking about what's going on in San Francisco a lot because Brock Purdy kind of came out of nowhere. Mr. Relevant. We all watched him in college. It seemed like a different player, honestly, since he's gotten to the NFL. He's improved quite a bit. But they're going to have to make a decision out there on how much you're going to pay Brock Purdy. And to me, I think if you take away the fact of him being drafted so late, if you just look at how he's

played since he's been in the NFL, I think that you have to treat the guy like he's a top 10 quarterback. You have to pay him big dollars. And those Brock Purdies don't necessarily grow on trees. But from your eye, while you're watching him play, what is it about Brock that makes him stand out from every other quarterback that might not have, maybe they've got the same kind of generic type measurables come out of college,

but there's something different about Brock that lets him excel at the NFL level. I think he's always had what I call grit. Yeah. You know, he's a winner and he won at Iowa State. Not surrounded by great talent, but good, you know, Bryce Hall and some of those guys and but so when he gets in the right system, which he's in the perfect system for him, and I don't think he's a system quarterback, but not necessarily could he's in the perfect system for him and I don't think he's a system quarterback but not necessarily could he play in other offenses that push it way down the field he's in the perfect thing with Kyle who's gonna run the ball well have play action keep it between the numbers is he 300 million dollar quarterback I can't answer that one mm-hmm Is he a $300 million quarterback?

I can't answer that one. Cause then it takes away some of the other pieces. And it does seem like he's the perfect quarterback for that system and the system is perfect for a quarterback just like him. So it's almost like they need each other at the same level. It's a great marriage.

Now how much do you have to ransom the farm to keep the guys around him? Yeah. Are the guys around him helping him as much be good or is he good on his own? Right. Yeah, is there any quarterback in the league right now that you look at and you're like,

I would like to coach that guy? Oh, there's probably 10. Yeah, I mean, this young group that came, has come out in the last five or six years I Would have loved to have coached, you know, I love Baker. I mean, he's my kind of guy too and you know But Justin Herbert Patrick my homes and yeah, Josh Allen you can go on and on Lamar I mean your imagination can go run wild

when you have a guy that can do a couple things. He can beat you from the pocket, but he's also lethal running the ball. Now, not gonna put him, if you put him in harm's way too much, harm's coming. So you gotta be very, very measurable on how much harm's the way you put him in. Yeah.

We have Steven Che, Die Hard Bucks fan in the booth. I think you've met him. You know Steven. Steven, I told Stephen to come in here cause I was like, hey, if you have a couple questions for a coach and I'm sure he does. So Stephen, go ahead. You're, this is your Super Bowl winning head coach right here. Yeah. Thank you for the sweatshirt.

I'm rocking the Super Bowl 55 championship merch right now. There you go, baby. Of course. So you're involved in, as the head coach, obviously you're involved a lot in the draft, and you fall in love with certain guys. 2020 draft, you know, they just brought in Tom Brady, you're building up the team, great draft,

Tristan Wirfs, handsome, wonderful, guys that have been paid the top of their position. But there are guys that you fall in love with too. I know you wanted Antonio Gibson in the third round. What do you do when your guy, and you got taken, I think like 10 picks before we were on the clock and we ended up picking a running back.

What happens when your guy gets taken off? How do you pivot personally? I always get pissed. I walk out of the room, you know, come back in with a couple picks on our pick and we've got five guys usually there every time that they've slotted that are gonna be around that pick.

You never draft for a need, but if above those five is a need, that trumps everything. And Jason Light and John Spytek, those guys do an unbelievable job. Yeah, I did one Antonio, because I thought he was the next David Johnson And David was a unique guy because he played receiver before he was a running back and You could do things out of the backfill with him and get great matchups And I thought Antonio Gibson did the same thing at Memphis could get matchups on safeties and linebackers that would be uncoverable

Yeah, you know so those guys are so hard to find that would be uncoverable. You know, so those guys are so hard to find. You know, Washington took him and, you know, I still love, I don't think Jason's missed a draft since I've been a part of it. Yeah, yeah. He's a great guy too. Yeah, and you know, Devin White was no bust.

Devin just... Stephen Che cried when you guys drafted Devin White. Did not cry. He was upset. He was like a linebacker at five. He literally cried. But I mean, credit to Jason that they pulled out the NFL's leading sacker off the, you know, got him for four million bucks. Shaq Barrett. You mentioned door number two earlier with the 2020 free agent class. Operation shoeless Joe Jackson was the pursuit of getting Tom Brady. Well, wait that it had like a CIA name to oh, yeah like dossiers and In a park it was from Field of Dreams that if you build it they will come like it if you build up the team

Then of course Tom Brady's gonna make the logical decision to come to a good team. So how long did you have Operation Shoeless Joe Jackson in place, like did you make decisions a year before Tom Brady that we're gonna build Tom Brady's dream team? Oh no, no, we're building our own dream team. And we thought Jamis was the guy. You know, and not ever thinking Tom would ever

become a free agent. If you think that year, I think Philip Rivers was a free agent, Tom was a free agent, somebody else who had a... Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy, we're all available. And I say, hmm, will we stick with Jameis?

Yeah. Tom. Tom Brady. No. Yeah. And that was a hard decision, but I mean, but Tom had done his homework. He knew as much about us as we knew about him, for sure.

Okay, so go ahead, keep going. What was plan B like? If Tom didn't come, was there a world where Jameis gets lazy and they run it back? Jameis was our guy, yeah. We knew we were gonna make him better. We could improve on the 33 touchdowns easily, and we had to improve on the 30 interceptions.

We can just cut them in half, you know, especially the early ones. The defense, we were gonna build the defense. Yeah, we felt like we could win with him. Did you get upset at all when you found out that he got LASIK after he left the team? Good question. No, but I loved his comment.

He said, I didn't know Bruce was, I thought he was black. Yeah, that's too smooth, right? That's it. That's awesome. That's a good question. See, have you got another one? I got one final one. You, I don't know if you're the originator of it, but kind of the CEO coaching style

where you're the coach, but you put a ton on your coordinators. Now we see a lot of very hot in the streets, coordinators get hired and sometimes they get a little bit underwater. What do you think the biggest mistake current owners are having and GMs and hiring coaches and what the importance of that head guy is? Yeah, I think if they're hiring a coordinator guy is. Yeah I think if they're hiring a coordinator to be a coordinator that's a mistake you know hiring the guy to be the head coach now if he continues to be

the coordinator it's okay now if he hasn't been the coordinator and you're hiring to be the head coach and the coordinator you're asking him to do two jobs he's never done that's a lot I don't see those guys being as successful. I always called the plays until Byron was ready. Then I handed it all over to Byron. Coming back to Tampa, coming back in to coach, and the Glazer family wanted me to call the plays. I'm like look I got a guy he's ready more than ready I'm gonna be right there next to him it will be good and and they and they they went along with it which was great and it's

just a crying shame Byron's not calling plays for somebody right now because he's the best I ever been around and but it at that time there were only three guys calling plays as head coaches. Andy's always done it, I always did it. John Gruden did it. McVeigh might do it. Sean's doing it. Sean was kind of the young guy that started doing it,

Kyle doesn't know. But that young group of guys is starting to do it. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how you do it when you're like, you're trying to coach a whole football team and you also gotta call the next one. That was one of the things I'd gotten from Arizona. You know, and this goes even back to Temple.

John Devlin, he's my assistant head coach at Temple and we're walking off the field and he said, "'Coach, can we ever end practice where the defense wins?' I went, what do you mean? He said, "'We practice an extra half an hour today just till the offense won. It's like every day, I was like, oh shit, yeah, you're right.

And I was play calling offensive coordinator, head coach, and we weren't leaving the field till the offense won. And part of that went on in Arizona a little bit, and I'm like catching myself. And I had Tom Moore and Tom Pratt on my staff. Tom Moore, great book out right now, one of the best reads I've ever had. And Tom Pratt coached in Super Bowl I.

He coached Buck Buchanan and Curly Colt. Every night they would come up to the suite, we'd have cocktails and go over what they thought, what they saw, how they felt we were doing, and I leaned on them. Yeah. And I had learned that word delegate, which was really hard. I was 30 years old at Temple as a head coach.

I did everything. And I went in the hospital like three times a week by the fifth year. Yeah. And it's like, I never learned how to delegate. Right. And when Chuck got sick, didn't have time to do anything but just do your damn job, guys.

I'll decide if we go for it on the fourth down, and I'll give a shitty speech on Saturday night. That's it. Yeah, if you delegate to the right people. Yeah, and then everybody did their job. And everybody had their hand in it and it was like Chuck's the head coach Nesca you do your thing and and and and we went 11 games with that team

Yeah, I got I got two last questions for you coach and appreciate this has been awesome to talk to you again First of all the first time we spoke it was right as your book came out and the story about you drinking paint as a child You know to make your bones stronger saw just we made a song about it Have you ever gotten the urge have you ever walked down like the aisle and sure when Williams or Home Depot and took a look At some of maybe the the light green mint chocolate chip color that was one of the ones I had Yeah, it's a delicious looking color of paint and looked at and thought yourself. Maybe I'll just ones I had. Yeah, it's a delicious looking color of paint and looked at and thought to yourself maybe I'll just, what harm could one more sip do? No, no, I think part of this thing up here is that lead that was in that paint. Yeah, got you a little crazy. That no

risk, no biscuit stuff. It might have came from that paint, you know, it was high it was high lead baby. You push the limits of no risk, no biscuit when you're drinking paint. Yeah. And then the other thing, since you've coached so many great quarterbacks over the years, if you were the other thing, since you've coached so many great quarterbacks over the years, if you were to take like, if you were to break them down by like, brain, heart, guts, arms, legs,

how would you build the ultimate Frankenstein, Bruce Arians quarterback? Yeah, very fortunate when with Abasee, Payton, and Tom, and Ben, Carson, Andrew, Timmy Couch, Kelly Holcomb, the guys that I had. If I was going to build all of them into one, it'd be Andrew Luck. Oh, so it's just all Andrew Luck? Yeah, because he had everything that they all had.

He had a photographic memory. His athletic stuff was off the charts, same as Cam Newton's. His recall was like Ben and Tom. His preparation was like Ben and Tom. Ben, Tom, and Peyton. If there was one guy in a big game, I'm taking Ben. Because I've been in the big game with Ben. I never had a chance to get into the big game with Andrew, but yeah, they're all great.

I mean, now they're all pissed because I didn't pick one of them. I liked your answer though. That was an ultimate zigzag saying it's just Andrew Luck. He was that good at everything. Yeah. It was. He was amazing. He took maybe the worst roster I've ever seen and won 11 games.

Yeah. And seven of them in the last minute, two minutes. Damn. Yeah. All right, well, coach, I have one last question. Row back question, rchoback.com, promo code. Take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, great golf gear.

And that's my last question. How is the golf game, what's the handicap? I'm back to a six. Ooh, damn. Yeah, I've shot my age three times now. Okay. And actually shot it, 72 the day before my birthday, but I'm counting it.

Yup, yeah. I asked somebody, an old doctor friend of mine, I said, hey, whenever your mother was pregnant, it counts all the way back to then. So I've shot 71 twice and 72 once now. Oh wow. That's pretty good. That's crazy.

So you're doing everything out there. You gotta be able to drive, gotta be able to have a nice approach game and good putting. I mean, when I tore my Achilles that last year coaching, it ruined my golf game. I mean, I couldn't hit it 160 yards and I almost quit and then just like I never had it fixed because it's not it's non fixable and it's like oh you did trust it or quit playing so I started pushing off of it and start playing hitting it a lot

further and this year I found a little more speed somehow and so I'm hitting my driver pretty solid. So you still have a torn Achilles? Yeah, I've got like six percent strand Oh my god, I didn't know that that was possible. You said that they couldn't fix it No, it's just it had to be a cadaver of mine rotten. Wait, so does it hurt? It'll go sorry renowned it but no, I just if I go down steps. I can't catch myself. Yeah But just walking around that whole season I was in these orthotic high heels after like game five. I actually tore it running in the pool.

Never felt it, anything. It just swelled up and I think it was a burn spur that cut it up, but they said it's so bad it'd have to do a cadaver. Said, that's eight months in a boot. I said, you don't know my wife. She ain't driving me for eight months. You know her. That ain't happening, bro. Yeah, that's eight months in a boot. As you don't know my wife, she ain't driving me for eight months. Yeah, you know her. That ain't happening.

Well, that's an incredible golf game and very gritty. The killer torn Achilles just going around. Well, coach, thank you as always. Always great to have you. Thank you guys, bro. You're the best. And yeah, good luck on the rest of the fall golf season. You got it.

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I get it. You remember that one Garfield where John drank Odie's cum? What? Yeah. They went to like a vet and John haddie. And they had a nurse and he was like, there was a cup of coffee that was like on the table. And he drank a sip of it. And he's like, don't mind if I do. And the nurse was like, that's sir. That's cat come. That's Odie's come. Or dogs come. It was dog come. Yeah, come. Um, by the way, for the people who are listening to

the podcast, not watching the podcast, we are all dressed in our Halloween costumes. That's why I started with I Hate Monday. Sam dresses as Garfield. You are Miley Cyrus. I'm Miley Cyrus. Hank, you are? Shaggy Doo.

Shaggy Doo? We got Marty McFly. We got Mario. We got... What are you, Max? I would be Frank Cushman from the film Jerry McGuire the lead of that movie actually. Oh the lead the lead. I thought the lead was Tom Cruise. No that would be Jerry O'Connell actually. Oh from kangaroo Jack from kangaroo Jack.

Oh he's a guy that used to be an actor. Yes. Okay. To be correct. but he's the lead in this movie and I am Frank Cushman got it bing bong Ah and then memes he's a stay puff guy Stay puff man. I don't think memes can there's the Michelin man. He's stay puffed. I can't see all the way back there Yeah, I can't see fucking shit All right fire fest Hank My fire fest is I Am addicted to tick tock shop. Oh Yeah, I didn't realize the rabbit hole that you can go down and obviously the algorithm that it feeds you once you get something

but I Saw after like, I finally did the purge of all my clothes and I got rid of probably 70%. Uh, and so I've been in the process of buying new stuff and I saw some sweatpants. They were like 10 cents. What? You bought 10 cents. Sweatpants. They were like 10 cents. Sweatpants on Tik TOK. They were legitimately like a dollar. So I ordered like five pairs. Are they good? They're not that they they gotta be trash They're not that bad. I know what you pay for. Yeah, I would prefer to spend way more than 10

Look into them then I clicked it was like They're so cheap that I had no choice, but to at least see That's crazy. What's different about these sweatpants? No, they're pretty normal sweatpants. Like they're not, they don't, like obviously they're super cheap. It's not the highest quality, but they're, they're pretty solid. So yeah, the whole marketing is like, these are the cheapest sweatpants you can possibly buy. So cheap that you're basically like, why it's only $10.

So why not? Yeah. What's the catch? That's the catch. That's the catch. They're going to suck. And now they just feed. Like now I'm just getting,

Oh, I have that on Instagram. I'm just, I get fed every single like thing I've ever bought in a different variation and just keep rebuying it over and over They're good. Hey Zuckerberg Elon whoever the fuck China China. You're good. You're good. Darius Rucker. You're good You're good. The algorithms down pat. You're good. Mm-hmm You're good. You're good the algorithms down pat. You're good. Mm-hmm Miley what's your fire fest the week my fire fest? I'm trying to make sure my nipples don't slip out So it doesn't mess up the YouTube So quick which one which oh, yeah, I do have four

I think these two at the bottom might be covered by the desk I get just quick update on the card situation. Oh from Wednesday the guy who's gonna be cool the guy That's he's been cool about it so far So I haven't there's been no more charges on my card because I told him you'd be cool I'll be cool about it, but I had a bunch of people online reach out to me yesterday and tell me that I May have accidentally given that guy permission and ruined any chance that I would have Recouping any fraudulent spending. Like their lawyers, if they heard that podcast, they would be like, well, technically this

bank doesn't need to refund PFT because he gave permission. No, that's not true. Those people, whoever, whoever hits you up is wrong because you specifically said be cool. So if he goes and buys a car, that's not cool. Not cool. Right. And that's against the law if you go out to a bar and you get like $50 worth of beers. That's cool. Right you go to Hooters very cool. Cool. Like you can do that But the guy has not done anything not cool yet. So I think that it might have done more. No Oh, it's been it's been quiet. So I think it's probably gonna be their chance. You just ordered it Pizza Hut in Georgia in Georgia

It wouldn't be the way you order from my shop. Yeah, you order from everywhere I accidentally had had uber eats to deliver to an unknown apartment in Georgia so but I might I might have signed away my rights in terms of Recooping any money that he spends if there's like a big purchase no cuz that's not cool Is there a way that I can limit my my credit card like limit to fifty dollars a day? I don't know cuz if I did that then I would make sure that he was being cool Yeah, you would have a restriction on you'd be really cool my other fire fest of the week is just that the elections coming up and everybody's pissed off and everything sucks and

Next Tuesday is gonna suck and then next Wednesday is definitely gonna suck no matter who wins Yeah, and there's gonna be everyone's gonna be so everyone's gonna be shitty. It's probably gonna suck, and then next Wednesday's definitely gonna suck no matter who wins. Yeah, and there's gonna be just weeks of suck. Everyone's gonna be shitty. It's probably gonna suck for another couple months. Might suck for another four years, just in general with people being pissed off about stuff. I'm so ready for it to be over. Yeah, me too. Everyone's just on edge and just like chill out, man. All the commercials on TV, those suck. Everything sucks.

Give us back the commercials. Everything. That's why I'm so very much looking forward to games like Falcons Cowboys. Yes, it's a brief, brief window into not sucking Ohio State Penn State Hank. Going to be a good game. Max, you have a prediction on that game? I don't know. Big noon kickoff is ruined college football though. I don't like big kickoff. I agree. I agree. I agree. Why is that game at 11am? You have to ease yourself into the day that it's too. It's too good of a game that early. Agreed. They got to bring the white out energy. Why don't they just do a white out? Imagine that at night because it's they can't do it at night. What do you mean? Fox won't let them play at night. No.

Why don't they just do a white out during the day? You that doesn't work. Why not? You never tried it. You never tried it. Can't do it Why not with that attitude? You don't think the white would pop you could do a stripe out They do stripe outs to stripe outs aren't aren't the same. What's a stripe out? Is that each section each section what one wears white one wears blue? That's a Michigan was that last year? I do the stripe out that would be a good time to do it I do like college football Saturday around Halloween because it's just a lot of drunk kids just dressed up Yeah, like sad fans and Halloween costumes are the best. Mm-hmm

I don't really have a fire for it. My fire fest I guess is just that Halloween is one of my favorite holidays when you have little kids, but Not really shocking. I told my son and daughter last night. I was like, hey, it's Halloween tomorrow Let's let's try to stay in our rooms till Till mommy and daddy wake up, but there's no such thing as Santa Claus for Halloween 545 Yeah, ready to get in their costume. You can't scare them with the the Santa Claus will give you good toys Yeah, you can't even say I'm gonna cancel Halloween because it's such a that's such a lie. Like Halloween is the best so But yeah going like just watching my kids go to school and they're like I dropped off my son He was dressed as Mario fucking best. He was so pumped to put on the Mario

He was he didn't want to put on the mustache cuz he didn't want the sticky tape to to go out during the day So we're saving it for trick-or-treating, but he was just so pumped. Did you guys? Is that movie age kids appropriate? Yeah, we watched the movie It is good. It is very good. We watched a movie a bunch. That's why we did it And then I I dressed as bad we put on our Halloween costumes last night is a little you know on Wednesday night is a little Warm up and I dressed as Bowser and chased him around so let's chase a Mario toad Princess Peach around it's good. It's fun. What are you looking for? I'm just trying to see if I'm wrong I feel like your Garfield is is way more yellow than it should be

Yeah, you you got a problem like Garfield. I thought you were Bowser when you walked in Why are you so I have such an issue with the Garfield? No, it's not an issue. I'm just I was thinking I hate Mondays in Hank You think of Heathcliff? He's the he's the super orange cat the sound off in the comments. I could be wrong That's not I'm not hating. I just you're saying you're looking at me like Pika Pika field What would you like him to be? Oranger oranger more orange I'm licking my hands look at look at look at Kush You by the way max. I'm not trying to I'm happy. We all dressed up Halloween's a fun holiday

P anyone who shits on Halloween's an idiot, but up Halloween's a fun holiday P anyone who shits on Halloween's an idiot but Jerry bodied you in the costume off like he did he was max two times he was Philly's max and Eagles max he did you're just one of the coolest characters that he played although he wasn't that cool you know Kush was kind of a dick but I are we surfing or we skiing I like Kush you just look like a tour manager for Spine Tap No, but I got a hat that says team Cushman on it. I do see that Yeah, you see the hat you were complaining about having to do arts and crafts all you had to do was write team Cushman I know it's hard though. The S's are so hard to do block letters

Really? Yes, just do the power s yeah, I know I thought about doing Superman How is that a thing do we know who the first person was? It's awesome. Yeah, I love the boys. I mean chain looks awesome pug. You look great pug. Can you do it? It's a me a Mario It's a me Mario All right good show boys, hope everyone has a great weekend And we'll see on Monday. Oh, I thought we had an applause No applause. They're waiting. I know Numbers so Max forgot to or max released the PMT documentary two days early. Oh, yeah Yeah, we'll say it at the beginning of the show too. But yeah, do the PMT documentary

There's me four episodes first one Friday. So check it out And we're gonna have I think it's first one is just us the beginning of PMT max. Why'd you do that second one? Kush, I don't know. I fucked up fucked up right in the middle of a World Series game people love the button Right in the middle of a world of the body like one of the best world series games. So yeah Friday or today Episode one episode two will be all bvt. Yeah, so that will be in a couple weeks So we'll do a better job of promoting it cuz we are bad at that. Mm-hmm really bad. Okay numbers Drain gene five. I actually I gotta give give Memes three, because he already, I already said numbers. He said it.

I knew, whoa, whoa. Marty McFly, Shane is Marty McFly, is the best costume here. He looks cool. What was the number Memes was guessing when I was guessing three? 17. Okay, great, 17.

Three for the third win. Marty. I thought you guys lost. Marty McFly? I'm back. Okay. Everyone say their numbers again. 19. 5. 11. 17. 99, Mario. 21. I can't see shit. Oh

56 oh, I thought that was 99 good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy.

I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. I'm gonna be a good boy. So So So So So Thanks for watching!