Pardon My Take - Julian Edelman In Studio, NFL Week 16 Picks And Preview Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Weve had our fill on watching the Saints play football and Dennis Allen is the WORST. We talk about a nightmare playoff scenario for the Lions as the Rams are officially a dangerous team (00:00:00-00:18:26). Week 16 Picks and Preview for every game in the weekend as well as touching on subjects like internet brain vs real life, epstein's list and more (00:18:26-01:43:46). Fantasy Fuccbois (01:43:46-01:49:54). Julian Edelman joins us in studio to talk about the NFL this season, are drops contagious? His media career and tons more (01:49:54-02:58:21). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:58:21-03:09:32).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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December 22nd and pft I do not want to watch derrick car play football anymore. No, no, I don't. They were fun last week against the giants. I don't know if that was just the giant factor or if that was just them finding something that they'll never regain again, but yeah, they're bipolar. They're depressing and then they're fun for a little bit and then they're back to being depressing again, get the Saints off my TV. On the other side though, I think we can say

that the Rams are legit. They're a good team. I told you, I believe it was right before they played the Cardinals, they had I, three wins at the time. Take the over on the Rams season, total seven and a half. Biggest bet of the year for me paid off tonight. Very happy about that. They, I'm going to say this, the Rams, I think they're officially dangerous.

That's what they are. They're dangerous. Matt Stafford playing great ball. I'm getting closer and closer, PFT2 also just going down like all the receipts of the Matt Stafford Hall of Fame. Because remember, we discussed it in 2018, I think. And I've been long saying, like Matt Stafford is going to have all the stats. He's been in the league for so long. He's been really good for so long. He's got the Super Bowl. Matt Stafford is a Hall of Famer. And watching him play football is fun. Like his, the throws he makes and it, it doesn't feel like it's gratuitous. It's like he's making some of these throws because he has to make these throws and Pukin and Koo is awesome. Rams defense playing well. They are, I'm putting

it tag him, maybe make a graphic for me means. Rams officially dangerous. Like they, outside of maybe the 49ers, like is there any other team in the NFC, you would be shocked if the Rams beat in the playoffs? No, not really. I shouldn't be. It would obviously be an upset for some of these teams. If they beat the Cowboys, I might be shocked just

because of what happened earlier this season, where they were down like 33 to three after, it seemed like the first quarter. But besides the Cowboys and the Niners, no. I think it could definitely be any team in the playoffs. Can I say something that's, that I think there's probably a certain sect of our fan base that is listening right now,

that has played this out in their head. That Stafford, going to Detroit, Lions first home playoff game. Yeah, it would be brutal. We not want that. I don't want to see that. I don't want that. That's not fun for anybody.

But yeah, he is making crazy throws on a weekly basis. Like he threw one out to the numbers from like a standstill. It probably went 30 yards in the air and just whipped it out. He's got like a whip attached to his probably went 30 yards in the air and just whipped it out. He's got like a whip attached to his shoulder. He's fun to watch. And I don't know, I felt like Matt Stafford,

the discussion around him was that he was getting old when he was like tailing off his career, his last two seasons with the lions. And no, I think he's always just had that same arm that arm never goes away. It's just a matter of putting pieces around him in the rams of the, I'd say, you know what? I think both teams won that trade. Well, the discourse on Matt Safard, like when he was, you know, last two after the Super Bowl

was fair because a back injury, like who the fuck knows, you know, that's wasn't that what he had back, and it was arm. His arm got fucked, right? I forget exactly. I thought he had a back. He did have a back. He did have a back at one point. Yes. He had a back. And I'm pretty sure he had arm, maybe even two arms. Yeah. He had a spinal contusion. That's always a scary thing. The discourse was Will Matt Stafford retire. Right. And he's gonna walk away.

And he looks like he's having fun. He's ballin'. The Rams are dangerous. I would like to hear from Lions fans. You can just tweet us and just maybe say like, yeah, I've thought about it. That's all you have to say. We don't have to actually address it,

but I'm looking at it right now. And it's not an unreasonable, like the Rams sneaking into the six spot. They're tied right now with the Vikings. They'll technically be in the six spot after this game goes final. And the Lions are in the three spot. That's going to be a very weird spot for Matt Stafford to going back to Detroit and playing against them in a playoff game.

It's going to be it's going to be weird for everybody. I'm going to feel just uncomfortable watching that I think that would be the meanest meanest thing to happen to lions like of all the things that would be the meanest thing. I don't want that to happen. We've talked about the lions and how in the past they've invented new ways to lose whether that be like making a catch in the end zone that's somehow not a catch or fumbling a ball through the end zone or having the NFL record long fuel goal kicked against you that bounces off the cross bar and goes in. And it felt like they've they've checked all the boxes for the most heartbreaking ways to lose. This would be the final stone in the affinity gauntlet if it was Matt Stafford coming to Detroit and beating them.

So that being said, it does feel like something that's probably going to happen. Yeah. We also need to talk about the fact that Dennis Allen might be the worst coach of all time. And that's not being facetious. That's not being like hyperbolic. That is, if you look at the stats, I think he is somewhere around the seventh to tenth worst coach record wise. That end of half when he decided to go for it on the 42 with a minute left and they're down 10 or no, they're down three. They were down three. Like I, I, I know that, you know, analytics go for it more often. You punt that ball and you stop like the Rams doing like a draw play or a screenplay. The Rams most likely just go into halftime.

He just gave them seven points and it was just, and he punted on, I know it was like a fourth and 13, but he punted on the Rams 37 yard line to start the whole game. Like this guy stinks. He's, he spans deserve better. He's officially a weird shithead in my book. There are very few coaches that reach that, that level. He is a weird shithead. I have no idea what he was thinking was fourth and five.

I think if I were to put myself in his shit head brain, I would say that on the third down play, they should have converted. They had a good play drawn up and I believe it was a drop on that. And it should have been an easy, easy conversion. And so in his head, he thought, oh, it's going to be easy again. And then Derek Karrins of throwing the ball like 10 yards further to the sideline than his receiver was at. That's what I think. That wasn't a drop.

That was a car. Derek Carr has a thing that he does where Chris Alavi was, it was, he, I think he came from out of the backfield and he was running like a slant and he was wide open. And Derek Carr decided, hey, I'm going to throw this 3,000 miles an hour at his back shoulder. Like, yes, a lot of it could have made it, but that was a bad throw. And I actually was wondering this PFT because I was arguing with people on x.com, which is a very fun thing to do during a football game, especially when there's one football game. We're all watching it. How many burner accounts do you think the car brothers have? Because I thought I was convinced I was talking to a car brother with the way he was blaming

Olave for a pass that was, no, like it was not a good pass. It was an easy pass and Derek Car fucked it up. Olave, yes, could have maybe caught it. But if you watch it a million times, you're like, that's on the quarterback, not on the wide receiver. The problem with that play is Olave had a couple other drops tonight too. So yeah, when you take that one wasn't him. It wasn't all on him, but what I'm saying though, the point still stands, which is that Dennis

Salon saw that he's like, we have the right play drawn up. I'm confident that we can get five yards if we need it or seven or 10 yards. And he thought he had a play. So he drew it up and then you give the ball to the Rams and they've got like 20 yards to go until they can kick a field goal or they can just take the ball down the field and score. That was a stupid decision,

especially when you put two count. The was from the 37 yard line where they punted in the first quarter. Those on top of each other make zero sense whatsoever. But to the point about the car brothers, if you're not blocked by David Carr on Twitter, you're not using x.com correctly. Correct.

I'm pretty sure he does the name search for his brother and this is the part I don't understand with David Carr. It's one thing to be like, yeah, fuck you, I'm gonna stand up from a brother. It's another thing to like search people with these takes and then proactively block people that are being critical of your brother without even replying to them or addressing them

or just like getting in his mind, I think he's wiping the internet clean of any Derek Kars slander. Yeah, yeah, I think I was talking to a car brother. I really do. And by the way, Are you blocked? I am blocked.

Derek Kars, a great garbage time drive there to make his numbers look a lot better than they were. So he just took the saints all the way down the field. He's going to end up with like over 300 yards passing. And you're going to say, Oh, he's not the problem. The whole saints are the problem. That thing is just it's tough watch. It's a really tough watch. You know what I don't like a new new feature that they're doing right now, which is in the Amazon advanced stats. I don't know if this is Sam Schwartzstein that's pushing this or not. Sammy,

if you're listening just so you know, I don't like this. They're showing you playoff percentages based on each play. So like when she should, well, I don't like it because somewhere there's a Falcons fan that's gonna be watching a game. And the percentage of them getting the playoff is gonna spike and then it's gonna crash and they're gonna be like, what the fuck? All these percentages feel like

they're geared towards us getting bad beats but when Shaheed caught that touchdown to make it was at 7-10 at the time. Yeah, yeah. Very European of you. Yeah, it spiked. It spiked their playoff possibilities by like 7% just based off that one play.

That to me feels like we're going too far. Numbers are too far into this beautiful game that we love football. Yeah, I was watching the prime broadcast while the prime vision, Sam Tune a great job. It's fun to watch. Feels like you're smarter because you just watch it and you're like, oh, that guy's gonna blitz

because he's like all lit up. I'm not doing anything because they're telling me, but it is cool to just say, oh yeah, I see that. I'd go hot route here. No problem. I like, I like those parts where they make me think that I'm playing a video game when I'm just watching football. It's like I'm doing two things at once. One thing we need to write down and remember for future, Sean McVeigh on the opposite of a buy on a short week is great. I think he's six and one. This would make him maybe seven

and one all time. So he's like the opposite of Andy Reed in every in every way possible. But in the off of off a short week stat, we got to remember to hammer make phase teams. Yes, I agree. I agree. Okay. Other thing we got to really talk talk about is the pistons lost again. Okay, other thing we got to really talk about is Epistons lost again. And that's not notable because they've now lost 27 or no, 25 in a row, 25 I think the record is 26. Yeah, they were, they started the season two and one, but it's notable because they're playing the jazz at home. I think they're only a two and a half point dog.

Laurie marketing was out. It was one of the more winnable games they'll have left. And uh, yeah, we're on like, could the pistons finish with like five wins territory? I think, I think the record is the Bobcats that one year. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and that was a, I think that was a shortened season. So I think they won seven games, which wasn't as, as bad. I'm going gonna look for it right now. But yeah, the pistons, they might be the worst team of all time.

They're in deep, deep shit right now. So they've got two games against the nets, and then after that, I think they're going, are they're playing against the Raptors, and then at the Celtics, and then at the Rockets New Year's Day, there's a good possibility they could, they might be able to win that game on New Year's Day. If the Rockets get drunk enough on New Year's Eve, I'm circling that one.

The, so the, yeah, the record is seven and 59. So not a full season. They're they're gonna, I think they're going to beat it. I would fuck. I don't want to bet it. I wonder if you can. The Rockets aren't terrible. I wonder if you can. The rockets aren't terrible.

That was our NBA preview. Yeah, we'll do our real NBA preview in like two months. After the Super Bowl with Ricella will get them on. I have a much more pressing question to ask a big cat. Yes. How many eggs do you think you could eat in the day? Oh, I saw this. This is, so I don't like this because I was raised correctly and my father made me watch Cool Hand

Luke at a very young age. So I've always for my entire life thought I could eat 50 hard boiled eggs, no problem, and then lie there like Jesus. So yeah, my answer is 50. Yeah. So if they're devil eggs, the answer's unlimited for me. I could, I could eat infinity devil eggs. I've never gotten full eating devil eggs.

If I'm at a wedding, they bring out the hors d'oeuvres, the devil eggs come out, and I just, I hawk that person, that's going around with the eggs, and I easily put like 10 of those, which I guess is five full eggs, 10 of those, and I don't break a sweat at all. I think I could, I could eat a hundred devil legs, which would actually be 50 devil legs.

Yeah, yeah, it would be no problem. So yeah, that was a fantasy punishment that this girl was like, this guy is so gross. And I was just the whole time I watched the video, I was like, dude's rock. That's awesome. Yeah, listen, she said that that was like the final straw that made her want to break up with her boyfriend.

Listen, your body produces eggs. Okay. What's That's facts Everyone should go see cool hand Luke if you haven't seen it It's one of the best movies of all time weapon bra boss shaking it off here boss PFT one last thing before we kick it to ourselves in studio. I bought you a Christmas present. Oh, did you? Yeah, we don't usually buy presents.

You dick. This is a dick move because we usually get each other Christmas presents. We don't buy. And then you spring on me that, okay, can I tell you why though? I was, I got it, I got a targeted ad about a shoe. And then I went and tried to buy the shoe. And I saw there was a couple other shoes. Look at these.

They're Reebok pumps in Commander's Colorway. Oh, I fucking love that. Thank you. I had to buy it. I wasn't looking for a present for you. I literally, I bought myself a different color pair, same shoe, but when I saw him, I was like, well, I have to buy these.

I appreciate that. Thank you for that. That's a very nice gift. him I was like, well I have to buy these. I appreciate that. Thank you for that. That's a very nice gift when I was a kid in first grade I asked my parents for a pair of pumps and they said no and I asked them again they said okay we'll get your pair of pumps and they came home and I had a pair of Voit pumps that they got at Kenny Shoes for like $19 and I was like I can't, these aren't pumps. So it's always been my dream to have a real pair of Reebok pumps, so I'm, there you go.

I actually did get you a present. Yeah. Yeah, the Chicago Bears Geiffiri collab. Oh, that's right, yeah, yeah. So yeah, you're gonna have these sick Reebok pumps, commanders color way, size eight. Perfect. Size, what, what size was that?

That was just me, like, if you get your boys a present, like, it's, it's kind of lame. So like, you have to like, I didn't really want to get you a present. I'll make fun of your shoe size. No, I got them 10 and a half. Don't worry. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. That's, that's very true though. If you get, if you get your friend a present, it, it has to be like, Merry Christmas, but also fuck you. You have fuck you, bitch. Yeah, like I felt really lame just saying, I got you a present, so I had to throw in a disc. That's just how guys talk.

Yeah, that's what we do. All right, let's kick it to ourselves weekend preview and like an hour with our good friend Jules in studio. Okay, weekend preview time brought to you by our friends at Uber Eats. Get delivered with Uber Eats. It's football season. You can now get almost almost anything you need for Game Day delivered with Uber Eats.

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the 16 game schedule that we had forever and feels like the season's over. We just have to remind ourselves. There's still January. There's still parts of February. I have a take. I'm ready for playoffs. I'm ready for the playoffs. I'm not yet. I'm ready for the playoffs. There's enough games now that are like who cares? I'm ready for the play. I'd be ready. That's not like saying I'm going to miss or like I want to speed pass the regular season. I'm just ready for play who cares? I'm ready for the playoffs. I'd be ready to do this. That's not like saying I'm gonna miss, or like I wanna speed past the regular season. I'm just ready for playoff football. I'm ready to figure out who's winning the suit bowl this year.

I'd be ready for the playoffs if it was like in my mind which teams I personally feel are ready for the playoffs right now. I'm there. I'm ready for the playoffs. There's one game in particular this weekend. We have a loser leaves town game for sure. We have a fraud bowl. We have a fraud bowl and we've got maybe a loser moves to the suburbs bull

Yeah, but I'm ready for the playoffs. I'm ready ready get it on want to see these fucking teams. I want to see some playoff football But yeah, week 16 Quick note. We obviously won't be streaming on Sunday or the following Sunday because it's Christmas Eve and then New Year's Eve. We will be back though streaming the college football playoffs on January 1st. And as a reminder, the show schedule this week, we will be, there'll be a new show on Tuesday recapping the whole weekend. There'll be a new show Friday getting you ready for the weekend and also a really very

famous guest, big guest, very massive guest. Strongest guest we've ever had. He's very strong. Very strong. Swansonega. So get excited. And then we will have another episode. The next one will be the Tuesday after College Football Playoff and week 17.

So two shows a week for the next two weeks? Yes. Tuesday and Friday for the next two weeks. Cause this fucking whole Christmas New Year's on a Monday blows. They should change that. It fucking sucks. Next year will be good. Next year will be on a Wednesday. Beautiful. All right. Let's get into it. Let's get into the week 16 schedule. Every every team obviously playing to powerful slate. So we got two Saturday games.

We'll start with the Bengals and Steelers on Saturday afternoon. By the way, we are doing three picks this week, right? Yep, picks. Actually, we were gonna do four or two picks, depending on how much I beat Hank by and golf today and I beat him. So the original plan was to reduce it to two games.

But then you know what I said? Let's do three. It's the holidays. That's not do three, it's the holidays. That's not true, but that's, it's the holidays. Three's up. Three's up. One, two, three, three picks. Okay, Bengals.

Wait, does one of them have to be a Christmas pick? Like we did for Thanksgiving. I think one should be, I think one should be a, okay, it's the holiday. Okay, yeah, right, okay. It's the holiday. Three. All right, Bengals, Steelers, Mason Rudolph time.

I don't know if you guys saw, but our colleague, Jersey Jerry's been on the beat. George Pickens has slowly unfollowed every quarterback this year. Mm-hmm. So he unfollowed Kenny. He unfollowed Mitch. He only follows Mason Rudolph. Well, again, just to defend George Pickens for a second. He didn't unfollow them because he doesn't like being their teammate. Yeah, he said he was just cleaning up his timeline Their content wasn't good enough for him to follow on Twitter or on Instagram. Yes

On all social media, I think on all social media, but this feels like to me and also No, Jamar Chase for the Bengals and DJ Reader, which will be very important in my opinion This feels like the Mike Tomlin Steelers era is on the line. Oh, this might be for the culture. Is this for the culture? It's under the game at home. No one thinks the Steelers are good. They're very banged up.

And I think they're going to win this game. So if we're looking at this from the eyes of the NFL script writers, Mason Rudolph, starting Christmas weekend, that seems like an easy win for the SteelSeries. Right? Jess, you can picture yourself watching the fastest three minutes with Boomer, and he's just going to go fucking hard on the Rudolph jokes. Yes. I feel like this is a Mike Tomlin.

Do you have any culture game? Yes. And if they lose, Big Ben was right. If they win, the culture exists for at least one more week. It is, in theory, it should be a matchup of two decent teams because you've got, if you just look at their college careers. Yeah. Mason Rudolph, Jake Browning, both awesome,

right around the same time. Perfect ball game. Great ball game. This would be great ball. If neither one of these teams make the playoffs, I want to see them play each other. Again, actually, I'm washing a local mistake. If you put that on on Thursday,

I'd be like, done. Yeah. Would you, um, how should we rank the rivalries in the AFC North? Cause I think they've shifted in the last year or two. I still think Raven Steelers number one. That's always going to be number. I, Bengals Ravens might be just because they're both at the top recently. Yeah. Recently, recently. It's gonna take at least another year

of the Steelers being depressing to watch for me to, because imagine it's a night game. Yeah. It's like a Sunday night Raven Steelers. You know the home crown Pittsburgh would just go hard for that game too. But if the Steelers have another bad year after this year, yeah.

They start to lose a little bit of the, we, these rivalries matter. Yeah. Browns Bengals probably up there. Yeah, Brown's Bengals, probably up there. Yeah, Brown's a Vonda Bengals. Lamarvers Diarrhea. Yep. Raven's Brown's.

I think historically that's an important one. Well, Joe Flacco has added some allure to that. Some allure to it, also the stealing of the franchise. Yep, that whole thing. Yeah. But I think we have at least one more season left. The end of this year and then I will reevaluate my AFC North rival recovery.

That's fair. I mentioned DJ Reader because the Bengals defense is not good and they have not been great against the run. So I went and looked back. DJ Reader obviously is their big tackle who is very good at against the run and he's out for the year In the Bengals six losses this year They've given up 175 yards rushing in their eight wins. They've given up 92 yards rushing

so when they can stop the run they have a lot of team success and DJ Reader not being there means it's gonna be very hard to stop the run and On top of all that the Steelers like what's what's the key to making Mason Rudolph palatable just running the football Jalen Warren letting him do as little as possible. Yeah set the play action use the tight end and Jalen Warren I'm betting on the I'm betting on the Mike Tom and culture game heavy dose of Jalen Warren this week please did you see the graphic of what would happen if every team in the NFL lost all the games that were one score games in the game?

I love these. Yeah, I love these. They're flip games. Yeah, the flip games, in terms of one score games, do you know which team would be in last place by far? The Steelers. Maybe the Steelers, they'd be two in 12. They'd have the biggest swing in terms of one score games.

But again, you look at that stat and you think, okay, are they lucky? Or do they do a lot of like very small things well, that enable them to overcome being a miserable football team? And stiller culture still a lot. That might be stiller culture. Yeah. The difference between being lucky and good, right? Because the Steelers were for the first part of the season.

It was, I actually enjoyed watching them because every game went exactly the same where they were within one score and then they had a special teams or a defensive play and all of a sudden they're winning in the fourth. Now they're just sad to watch. Yeah. Is the NFL impacting Steelers culture by suspending the safety for an entire year?

Shhh. Or for the rest of the season. The rest I should say. And make a Fitzpatrick is also out. Yeah. Do they get that guy KZ back if they make the playoffs? Let's just hope that doesn't happen. Yeah, be best for I don't want to see the Steelers play anymore football. I'm good with it I think they're gonna win this game though. We would have Mason's got that spark eligible for playoffs eligible for playoffs

Rudolph's got that little that little spark on his nose. He can't be No, I don't think he can be worse. Yeah, so we're saying like we're banking on Mason Rudolph not being as bad as we remember Mason Rudolph being. It's actually, I don't, I don't think there's another team in the NFL where if you went from starter to second string to third string, the line wouldn't move more than like a half a point.

Kind of all can't be. Like every other team has, it would be a significant switch if it went to first to second and then even, you know, still a switch if it went from second to third. So I would say if Kenny Pickett was starting this game, it might be a pick them. Maybe the Steelers. Maybe a line.

Maybe Steelers. Maybe they've heard by one. I think I'm like one at one point. Yeah. I don't know. It just says Steelers offense isn't really dynamic, no matter what. Yeah, I feel a lot more confident in the Steelers winning if Kenny pick it was playing. Maybe the Jets might have that same thing where it's like Sam Donald Tim Boyle Trevor Simian.

Ian Zach Wilson. What I say Sam Donald. Yeah, yeah. Zach Wilson Tim Boyle. No, I think there's a cliff there from where from which it was the cliff. I think there's a cliff from Boyle to Simian. Oh, I was gonna say there might be a cliff between Wilson and Boyle Yeah, there's there's definitely a cliff. There's like good Wilson right is average right right that's it It's a really depressing conversation. It is okay nerd nugget for this game first off Raven sealers

Remember when they put on the Wednesday that was sick. Yeah, okay, nerd nugget for this game. First off, Raven sealers. Remember when they put on the Wednesday, that was sick. Yeah, that was sick. Uh, the Bengals have won nine consecutive played games played in the month of December dating back to week 15 of the 2021 season, marking the longest such active streak in the NFL. Joe burrow nine time. Joe burrow. That's Joe Burrow stat. Mm hmm. I'm just telling you. Yeah, that's Joe Burrow stat. he plays well in December Yeah, so what he does okay? other Saturday game bills chargers so big big point spread I

Did Some research on gift Smith because I wanted to make sure the listeners knew so gift Smith is the interim head coach for the chargers Red an article about Giftsmith, he drinks six cups of coffee a day. Oh, I heard it was more than that. Well, it was, it was a, it was an embedded journalist. Yeah, it was, he was counting. It was with the, the chargers. Yeah. Yeah.

So six was all he got to. I think they stopped around 7 p.m. Southern accent. Wish he was a little fatter, that's okay he actually said he wishes he had lost some weight if he knew that he was going to be intermed coach um also coached roman reigns at georgia tech oh that's interesting i'm a cool what i had circle with gif smith was that his name was gif smith yes which is if we're just going based off name. It's a 10 out of 10 interim coach name. It is it feels made up and I like that part about them and also would have kind of learned to love about gift this week

Is there's not a lot of facts out there about gift because I did the same thing you know Yeah, I went deep. I read that article But there's not a lot of lore around gift Smith There's not quotes from his former players being like oh shit Here's the thing about gift which I actually kind of like that there's not a lot of stuff floating around about Giff. So mysterious. There's a chance that Giff Smith, and I, listen,

this is just a guess. So Giff Smith, I'm sure you're a really nice guy. He could be a rat, because he survived three head coaches getting fired at the chargers now. And they did not ask Kellin Moore to be interim coach. So he is he was peace for Chipsmith was there under Mike McCoy. He was under there under Anthony Lynn.

And now he was there for Brandon Staley getting fired. So I feel like three coaches, you got to be like, wait, what's going on here? Is this like the he's the Tom Wombsgans of the Los Angeles Chargers. Yeah. The rat. You know what rat's eat? Peanut butter?

Cheese. Oh, cheese. People forget that. Gif did say that they flush the Raiders game. I hope that means they actually put the film onto like a USB drive and then threw it in the toilet. Like a goldfish.

Ideally, if I was interim coach and I wanted to flush a game, what I would do, I would get a portapoddy brought in. I would throw the tape in there, then I would have everybody on the team go and take a shit or a piss on it. And blow it up. And then light it on fire.

Yeah, that ideally that's what flush means in this scenario. But yeah, I mean, you bring up a good point. If he's been there through three regimes, it feels like he's deeply embedded with the ownership. Yeah. He's a spanner, he's a guy. They've also got an interim general manager, JoJo.

Okay. And so it's Giff and JoJo, right? Nice. Which is a Disney Channel show. Yeah, it's a Disney Channel show or like a duop band from like the 50s. Oh yeah, they would slap. Giff and JoJo. Standing on the street corner, just snapping Channel show. Yeah, it's a Disney Channel show or like a duop band from like the 50s. Oh yeah, they would slap. Yeah, if it's like a show.

Standing on the street corner, just snapping their fingers. Yeah, but yeah, I can't think of a better job in the world than an interim general manager. Yeah. Cause you're not, you're not doing shit. You're just telling the scouts like, hey, keep scouting.

Yeah, please keep scouting. Just keep sending me your weekly emails. Yeah. And besides that, you're not cutting anybody. You don't have the power to do that. You're not signing it. I think if somebody gets hurt, you can be like, okay, we're gonna move this guy up from the practice squad.

That would be incredible if the interim GM just went rogue. But Justin Herbert. Yeah, Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert right now. Herbert, Bosa, Mac, Hid and Brax. We got it. We got to change the culture. Yes.

As for the bills, this does feel like a dangerous letdown spot. In the fact that the the chargers, I haven't seen a team quit the way they quit against the Raiders in a long time. And it's like they scored a ton of points. The bills are coming off of three big wins. I think the bills are win, but it does make me nervous if I want to take the bills minus 12 feels like a lot because it could just have a little bit of a sleepwalk

and all of a sudden you look up and you're like, wait, the bills are only up like five year, what's going on? Yeah, I have that fear too, but a little bit of that has put aside because I feel like the bills are in like do or dime. It's Eastern stick too. It's Eastern stick and the bills have zero margin for error.

Do you know what's an interesting trade that doesn't get talked about enough? I think it gets talked about in the two cities that the trade and the trader, but Result Douglas has been incredible. And the Packers could have really used them in this stretch and the bills, their defense. So I went back and I looked, Aaron Schatz had the numbers. It was a week one through five. There were six in DVOA, week six through 10. There were 30 second in DVOA because they got all those injuries that piled up.

Result, Result Douglas, I think showed up week 10. And then week 11 through 15. So the last month, they're back to fifth in DVOA They got him as like a Stopgap and he's become very very important to everything. They're doing on defense and I don't bring this up just because it probably Payons Packers fans because I think Packers might be in the playoffs right now if they still had a good cornerback But there's another team where racial Douglas came from that can also use him. That would be the Philadelphia.

That would be a little crazy. But it's crazy. Like, because there's so little trades at the trade deadline in the NFL, it doesn't get talked about a lot, but he has been a huge difference maker for the bills. I have a confession make big cat. I don't know what TVOA means. I know that it's a stat. They just put all the numbers together.

I know it's a stat that makes sense and that smart people always use. Yeah. And I know that if you're first in it, that's good. And if you're last in it, that's, I know that in theory, it's a good stat to use for any argument, but I have no idea what that is. I think with a difference between DVOA

and then just dumb stats that we read, like points per game and yards per play, is DVOA puts into he puts context into the stats. Do they like garbage time, you know, how are how are you good at high leverage situations? Uh, they factor us just like quarterback winning percentage. I don't think so. They should. And they factor in I think also repeatable like metrics. So an 80 yard touchdown is not the same as being able to go on like if you're really good at getting eight yards every first down. Yeah, like that's something that can be repeated time and time again. Yeah,

I know it's a good stat. I know that smart people use it. So I just I look at it and I follow it. Yeah, I just realized in this moment I have no idea what goes into it. But it's crazy. The bills were first stretched there. The worst defense in the NFL and now they have climbed all the way back up to one of the top defense. I'm guessing Matt Milano is out for the playoffs the worst defense in the NFL. And now they have climbed all the way back up to one of the top defense. I'm guessing Matt Milano is out for the playoffs too, if they make the playoffs. I thought he was maybe gonna come back, but because he makes a big difference too.

Yeah. Yeah, well that was where the dip started. Which I'm gonna provide, injury update. Why don't you give us your nerd nugget? Well, I look not expect to return. Okay. Keep in mind that this is the first ever peacock exclusive game. And they announced today. That's gonna be a commercial free

fourth quarter. Oh, oh, I kind of wait. Now is it commercial free? Or is it going to be half the screen picture to picture? Half the screens of commercial. No, I think they're going to like send it to a studio. They're going to keep it up in the booth sometimes. That's commercials. Yeah. Well, they have a studio that's a commercial. Yeah, I want them to just, I want to stay, they actually, like, link paths, the one they do like the, this is the perfect time for if anyone's gonna streak.

Yeah, fourth quarter of this game. That's the time they can't cut away from it. Yeah, there's a gamer too that I wish was like, extra commercials in the fourth quarter this week. So, I mean, one of the two breaks, like a golf broadcast. So, I mean, one of the two breaks, the announced team will delve into more of the other storylines, the other will go into the football night

in America's studio team. Yeah, that sounds like commercials. Because isn't that gonna be, we're just gonna have to watch Jason Garrett? Yeah, they're gonna be, that's way worse than a commercial. Bring back the USAAA commercials. I would rather watch 60 minutes of flow from progressive on my TV

than one second of Jason Garrett. They should just let Florio do like three minutes on why making the Paison jokes is problematic. Or just initiating a congressional investigation into injury reports. Yeah, I'd like to see that. Look forward to that. No, I'm not looking forward to it. Heads up. Jason Garrett like to see that. Look forward to that. No.

I'm not looking forward to it. Heads up. Jason Garrett is. Heads up about that. I'm not looking forward to listening to Jason Garrett and Tony Dungee. It should be just carry underwood. Yeah.

All right, well, well, there's no commercials and the fourth quarter, you can thank us for that. They gave us a worse option. Commercials, you can zone out. Jason Garrett and Tony Dungee, being in my face on Christmas Eve or no Saturday night, I don't want that. No one wants that.

All right. Anyways, Bill's running back James Cook is the first Buffalo running back with 1400 Scrimmage yards in a season since LaShama, Koi had 1586 and 2017. Yeah, just run the ball. Just keep running the ball. One center. The bills are good when they run the ball and they kind of found that game plan by by accident. That wasn't their plan. Yeah, Joe Brady said that. Joe Brady was like it was working. So wasn't going to stop it which is perfect. Yeah just go keep doing it if it works. All right next game. We've got to Sunday we're going to Sunday uh Browns of Texans no CJ Stroud most likely. Um here's a fun fact so couple quick fun facts for you. Since 2000, the Browns actually this season their defense is the number one in defensive success rate, which is pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. They have they have had 50% of the time. They have forced the opponent to go three and out. That's pretty good. That's insane.

Here's the other weird fact. The Browns at home have been giving up 10 points of game. The Browns on the road, 30 points of game. Pretty insane. Yeah. Now in this case, it's gonna be a case kingdom. It is gonna be case kingdom, but that's still, it's a big difference. Like that's a huge, huge difference.

It's crazy that they're that good, giving 30 points of game on the road up, and they they're still number one success rate in the last 23 years. With case canum, it's interesting because he was a guy that was a backup and then some team saw him that said, maybe he should just be the starting quarterback now. Yeah. And then they tried to make him a starter and they're like, no, he's just a backup. Then he went underground for a while and now he's still a pretty good backup. I feel like that that back and forth swing doesn't happen that much. I was out.

If you had told me that he retired, I would have been like, yes, of course. Yeah. The case keynotmes of the world and like all the mats seem to retire at the exact same time. Yes. Ah, I'm probably going to take the prongs of this game, but that defense thing makes me nervous. It does, but again, it's, it's case kingdom. Yeah, it's gonna be a big new game.

Case kingdom never lost the game when he started for the Texans. That's true. It's an entire career. Three, you know, this will be a big swing game for playoffs. This is the loser moves to the suburbs game. Yeah. So you're not out if you lose, but it's Texans lose. They would, they're pretty close to being, they're in trouble.

It's not leave town, but it's download, Trulia, download Red Fan, download Zillow, and just spend all day looking on those. I think the Browns, if they lose, they're not gonna move to the suburbs. They might just be like, oh, the school districts. You know, like maybe we should take a look. Yeah, they're not even doing Zillow.

They're just like, oh yeah, our friends, you know what, if the Browns loses game, they're gonna go visit their friends in the suburb and be like, oh, this is kind of nice or Maybe go on a vacation over the break and it's to like a nicer weather climate and then you're like we should really move here And then you when you're in the downtown area of your vacation town you walk past a realtor and you just look at the pictures on the wall Yeah, like our dollar could go pretty far out here if the the Texans lose, they're going to be in trouble. Yes. Yeah. OK.

What are the, oh, I had, yes. So I, David and Joku, I think, is going to be big this game. It's going to be tough watch for the Texans offense with all their injuries. And Will Anderson might be out as well. Tough, tough. Never dug it. Browns head coach, Kevin Stofansky owns the AFC South.

He is 90-0 against the division. Cleveland looks to sweep the AFC South. The second time in club history on Sunday, which was last on in 2020. Oh. AFC South killer. That's interesting. I liked that. That's a good statue.

90-0 against the South. Hmm. Okay. I think I'm feeling the Browns this week. Yeah, this is one of those games I think that, no matter which one I bet I'll lose. Maybe. I'll make a decision right before kick off and it will be the wrong decision.

Yeah, the games that you stay away from, where you're like, that's a stay away game for me. You end up betting them anyways at the last second. Right. Just based on vibes and usually the vibe is, oh yeah, case kingdom start, it's not going to bet on him. Yeah, there's a shitload

of stayaway games that will all be bad I'm rather I would rather do like a last minute pick on flacco than I would in case I agree with you there I definitely lean the browns put again whatever side I pick I'm gonna lose all right next game lines Vikings very good game very fun game if Kirk cousins were starting for the Vikings for the whole season, he didn't get injured, the Vikings would be like, maybe a super multi. I don't know if they'd be a super multi. Yeah, they would be they would be heavy in the playoff race for sure. It would be them. It would be them in the lines, which it kind of still is with the Packers sprinkled in there a little bit, but they would be in contention for the top spot in that division. Yeah. I do think this is a very important game for the Lions because you want to build off

the momentum of last week. And now you have to go against a Brian Flores defense, probably going to blitz a lot. The one thing I was looking at and trying to figure out the Vikings defense, remember the Vikings, what do they start own four, I believe, one in three, maybe they were bad. I know that I know they were on three. Right. Yeah, they were bad to start the season. So the quarterbacks they faced in the last two months where their defense has been very, very good. Justin Fields, can cost Brock, party, Jordan love, Taylor Heinecke,

James Winston, Russell Wilson, Justin Brock, party, Jordan love, Taylor, Hainake, James Winston, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, again, Adonoconal, Jake Browning, not exactly the best quarterbacks. So maybe a little regression, what they're all in three. I just hope, and Jared, you know, I want the Lions to continue the success. I'm going with the Lions in this game based on the fact it's being played indoors. Yes, indoors is going to be big. Yes. Jared has struggled well documented,

struggles sometimes in the cold as we all do, but he really doesn't like playing the cold. It really fucks Jared goff up. When he wakes up and it's like 30 degrees outside, his day is just done. He's like, oh, this whole thing's going to suck. But yeah, the Vikings, do you see the Vikings are changing their entire playing surface next year?

Oh, well, they won't split grass or whatever. I think they might be getting away from split grass, split turf. Split turf. So, they're concerned about the injuries because they've had a couple of those. Fair. And so they're blaming that on the turf that they have. So they're moving away from it next year. I think there are like three teams in the NFL that use the same type of surface that the

Vikings do. It's the shoot. Who is it? It's the Bengals, the Vikings, and then there's one other team. And two of the teams are moving away. The Bengals are going to be the last team to lead to have that playing surface next year. Okay.

Let's go to Grass. We're Grass Guys. Grass Guys. Nerdnugget here. The Lions can clinch their first division titles since winning the NFC Central in 1993 with a win or tie on Sunday, only four players on the Lions 53 Manorasta were alive then.

And head coach Dan Campbell was a 17 year old high school student. Whoa. Yeah, it could be first home playoff game in Detroit's 1993. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That's what I'm rooting for. I saw a story that the lions are increasing their their season ticket prices next year by a significant amount like 50%

Got to they have to it's it stinks though for the fans I think going to games and watching just you know getting shit shoved in their face for the last 30 years Yeah, and then they want they have one good season. They're like, okay, now you're gonna have to pay up If I were an owner, I would do dynamic pricing. And I would basically say, here's like, you buy your season tickets, we'll put a hold on your credit card. It could let's just say season tickets cost $2,000.

It would basically be like, if we win the division, it's $3,000 if we don't go to the playoffs, it's $1,000. I like that. That would be sick, because who wouldn't sign up for that? Yeah, it's like hey if we're really good. I have no problem paying more money Yeah, games will be fun to go to right or I would do a thing kind of like the military where if you if you don't want to pay full price

That's fine But your children have to work for the organization for two years after college. And then the debt is then repaid. If you don't want to pay the increased price. I do the dishes. Do the dishes. Yeah, do anything around the stadium. The, uh, now that I'm thinking about it though, the only negative impact would be if you did the dynamic pricing

at the end of the season, if you're having a bad season, I feel like your fans would root against your own team. Like if it was, if the stadium was packed and you're like, we get a hundred dollars off our season tickets if we lose this game. That might, but actually that's kind of funny. It's kind of funny. Also, if you were really good at the end of the season with dynamic pricing, you would just make your fan base like super poor.

Yeah. So like as the team did really well, then these things will income. And this is, but again, like we will pay for happiness. We will pay for a winning season. Right. So I'm on or do that dynamic pricing. Okay, next game, Packers of Panthers. Did you guys see Devon J. Campbell this week? Quite something.

He went on Twitter and he said, not going out of my way anymore and I'm not playing through injuries anymore Because when shit goes wrong, they always use it against you. I'm treating everyone accordingly and giving them the same energy They giving me focus on yourself and your mental 59 you owe it to yourself Whatever that's fine, you know, he's upset. He's playing through injuries. It sucks But the weird part was the next day when the media was allowed in the locker room reporter asked him about it and he responded I'm not answering no questions about nothing happening on the internet

You all want to talk about the panthers we can but I ain't answering no questions about nothing on no internet The internet just brought that quote out of nowhere That is some he's he's doing a great job of separating his brain here from the internet. The internet just brought that quote out of nowhere. That is some, he's doing a great job of separating his brain here from the internet. Where he's like, yeah, that quote that was on the internet, did I typed out? I'm not here to talk about that, that's on the internet. I like how he's using his own brain as his burner account.

Right. That wasn't me, right? That was my brain, my eyes, and my fingers. You talking about the internet? That's not me, the football. The things I say on the internet. I'm not talking about that. So I was, I had some three-cheat the other weekend.

Okay. And I started thinking about the internet. It will blow your mind if you really just think about the internet for a while. Every day for hours, we sit down at a computer or on our phones, and then we just go to a different place visually. Yeah.

And we just imagine ourselves being somewhere else, and then we come back to real life, and we're like, oh, this isn't as good as the internet Let me see what's going on on the internet right what's popping on the internet kind of wild vandray Campbell popping on the internet Popping on the internet for sure. Yeah, I have a prediction for this for this week Um, I think Bryce Young is gonna get offensive player the week. Oh Because the last two quarterbacks that the Packers have played against have yeah offensive player the week Baker may field and then the week before that Tommy DeVito.

Yeah. So which that one was maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pricey on next stop. Player of the week. Yeah.

I mean, the Packers defense is a pride game for them because they've been so bad. Yeah. So bad. If you're a if you're a coordinator that's under as much fire as Barry's been under, there's no way that you can just like pretend That's not going on like being oh, I don't I don't read the internet. I don't read I don't listen to the local sports talk radio At some point there's people that come into your office and say like hey, did you hear what they said about you? You honestly Joe Barry should just be like you should have traded residual Douglas. Yeah, he was the piece that he was

Everything that Result Douglas did unlocked my my defense. You took him away from it. Joe Berry should say I stood on the table to keep her so Douglas. Yeah, you traded the wrong cornerback. Jair Alexander has been out, you know, basically the entire season with an injury and yeah, you trade you flocked to me. Mm-hmm. That's what you got to do. It's been so. Explain someone else. If anything goes wrong, blame someone else. Okay, nerd nugget for this game. Third time the charm. Green Bay has won both of the last two meetings against

Carolina by the same score 24 16 in both 2019 and 2020. So that's covering the spread did not commit a turnover. Neither of those games. And you can cover the spread. Exactly scored plus 7,000 24 16 packers. Okay. Not bad. Panthers. I can't win this game. I'm be so mad if they win this game. Did you see the report? The fake report that was put online by a fake Adam Schefter? Yes. About David Tepper. Listen, we've said a lot of things about David Tepper, but we have not said that he's on Epstein's list. Yes. So anyone that's saying that stopped saying it, stop saying it.

Well, yeah. Panthers, fam, you haven't seen it. You gotta use any means necessary. Yeah, if you're the Panthers and you know, you're in the Charlotte area, you're probably hoping that you're on that list. Right. There's, I was saying about like,

how terrible of a Christmas would it be to be someone who knows they're on the list and the list is coming out. I actually think they should just keep teasing the list coming out because that's way more torturous than being on the list than having, you know, some Pete, your PR firm. Like, wow, we just knew him as a, you know, financier and it was nothing like that. It went to a charity event. Just having just having the the anvil over your head constantly is is a great punishment. I know I've noticed that since that report came out

Hank's been more on edge than usual. Oh, that's true. I'm excited for it. The list. Yeah, you're excited to prove your innocence once and for all. Yeah, and see who else is on there clear your name. Yeah, look forward to my day in court. Yeah. I mean, you have a lot to bond over being like a disgrace on an airplane with somebody. Yeah, sure. Mm-hmm. I hope you're on that list. Yeah, me too. I think it's redacted. But what if you randomly just work? That would be good press. It would actually be good. It would not be good. The next episode would pop off. It could be funny if just a random name was on the list. Well, just a different Henry Lockwood.

Yeah, it wouldn't be him. Yeah, there might be some of those out there. Same name. Oh, you know, that'd be the best notes apopology of all time. I really, I sincerely regret going on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. Yeah. Whatever it was on the list.

We're, let us be the first. He's not, that to have no information. No, he's not backing up claims that I have heard been made. No, Darren Revelle's on the one. No, he's not on it. I'm just saying what if that would be quite a day on the internet? Yeah, I mean, the thought has definitely crossed Revelle's mind that he should maybe get some sort of memorabilia from Epstein's Island.

Of course. This is this is a swing set. Yeah. Someone's got private playing like receipt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bill Clinton.

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the Falcons aren't gonna make the playoffs anyway, but this has to, like this season has become a disaster for the Falcons. Taylor Heineckee can hopefully save them. I do think the Colts is great as they've been this year in terms of exceeding expectations, Shane Stuykin's been an incredible coach. I do feel like the Colts are one of those those teams might be riding a little bit on luck.

And so they can be had. Yeah, a little bit on luck. There's been some fluky plays for sure for them. They also have had some bad injuries. Yeah, and I don't think they're a bad team. I think the Falcons right now are a bad team. Right. But Taylor Heinecke is a move that's, this is like one or two weeks too late

to make that move. It's like your back's been up against the wall. Why did you wait? Why did you wait? Why did you wait? Smith's been weird about saying like why he's going back and forth, switching back and forth. It's been just my red.

And Taylor Heinecke, even when Ritter initially kind of got hurt and they're like, well, we went with Heinecke for this reason. He's been like playing a little bit coy. Because Heinecke did get hurt and then it was just, they never updated us. Yeah, I think he wanted to give Desmond one more shot to be like, okay, let's see if you've actually, he probably went into Coach Smith's office

and was like, just give me one more shot coach. Credit to the Cincinnati Barricats football account tweeting vote for Desmond Ritter for her proble. That's nice. Just jumping in front of that one. Got support. They can buy their love. Yeah, support your guys.

Yeah. This is actually, we talked about earlier this year. It's the second time the Colts have played in a matchup. I think the second time in NFL history where the two quarterbacks have had names that are also occupations. Yes. Got Gardener and Baker first. Now it's Gardener and Taylor.

Yes. Kind of a fun fact. That's my fun fact of the week. That's very fun fact. Bird nugget of the week. Chirp, chirp, chirp. Yes. Ducks, when they sleep together in a group, on the outside of the perimeter of the sleeping

group of ducks, those ducks keep one eye open. Whoa. Just all time, rider, die, stand guard guys. I like that. Yeah, protecting the flock. Okay. Ducks are cool. Ducks are awesome.

Flock with ducks. I think they're my favorite bird. They're also the most delicious bird. Yeah. But that's like a Devon Dracamble. Internet, real life. Yeah. My ducks, cute, cool.

Do you see that? the food is totally different. They're all out of nowhere that comes from there. Uh, yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's not the cute bird. No, no, no. They're also very problematic. Ducks. What in terms of how they, how they get together. Oh, yeah, how they produce baby ducks. Yeah, they're, they're aggressive. Mm hmm. Yeah, duck colleges tweeted, hey, right? Yeah, I miss him. Yeah, I miss him. Yeah, all right, nerd nugget.

No team in the AFC has more interceptions than the Colts who have five. Indianapolis also has three pick sixes, which is second in the conference right behind Miami. Did you see and we will get to the Eagles game, but I understand why the Colts were okay, letting Shaq let her go. I did not, I didn't make a point to go back and watch.

I saw some tape and he, he's not moving fluidly, I would say. Mm-hmm. He's moving like, yeah, there's, he has a back injury. He's moving like he had a really catastrophic back injury. He was so fucking good. He was so good. He was like the best in the entire NFL for a little bit. But I, I, I never, the strategy of getting a guy who was once good. He was so good. He was like the best in the entire NFL for a little bit. But I never, the strategy of getting a guy who was once good,

just be like, maybe, that would be all I would do as a GM. So that part is not the problem. It's just once you see that, oh yeah, this is why he was available. You can't keep doing it. Right. The only thing they should have changed is how they let him go. Yeah. They kind of surprised him with that one. Yeah, they did.

Okay, next up Seahawks Titans Seahawks off the big win. They have Geno Smith back and Now we get the question looks like Will Love is will not play and Will be Ryan Tannahill or will be Malik Willis? Give Tannahill one more shot. I've let him prove he can have a job somewhere else. Ryan Tannihill, the book's still out on Ryan Tannihill. We don't know whether or not he's good enough to be a starting NFL quarterback.

I want to bet on the Titans if Ryan Tannihill plays. I do not want to bet on the Titans if it's Maliquilus. Yeah, I've got some fun stats here about the Seahawks because we think about the Seahawks going on the road and them being a different team when they're on the road. Yeah, they've actually played a way harder schedule on the road than they have at home. So on the road, they've played against the Ravens, 49ers, Cowboys, Lions, and Bengals. Oh. On the road, they've played the Rams on the road and then the Giants on the road. Those are the only two kind of weakish links and the Rams

aren't that bad. No. Of a team. So really, it's just the giants that's the only break they've had on the road. So this is really, I guess it's their second game against the team that they really should be. Right. Being played away from Seattle. So I was thinking this whole season like, oh, bet against Seattle on the road every time no matter what. Not necessarily the case. Also, fun stat. The Seahawks are 4-0 and Pete Carol wears a hat on the sidelines. One of the reporters brought that up to him. So you went backwards hat? He went backwards, had no problem. Howard flipped the fuck out on Pete Carol. No, he did that after the game. After the game. No, I'm saying, Howard, I think was fine with it. He was okay with it. Yeah, which is really fucked up. He's gone soft. Yeah, real soft. Real soft, but

I don't know. He said that he would factor that into his decision making on what he wore for the game, but I still despite those last two stats, I just told you I still think if it's Tana Hill, I'm going to take the Titans. This will be an interesting spot because I'm looking at it right now. I think this might be the earliest that a Mike for Abel Titans team is eliminated. I think it is. They've always been in it towards the end. So how are they gonna respond?

Can he get a classic Titans win, where it's like no one expects him to win out of these guys? Really, the only move to go for here is to start to handle. Yeah, but I think they might do Willis just because, like, we gotta see what we got, even though we know it's not good. Yeah. Just hoping.

Maybe it'll be different this time. Maybe Derek Henry. I do like, I am also in favor of the, it's kind of similar to the GM, getting the name that was once good. Just living your life just, maybe it'll be different this time. Knowing it won't, but there's always some fun.

We're not gonna second guess ourselves here. Yeah, maybe this, maybe this will go differently than it's gone every single time. Yeah, just start tan hell. Yes, do that for America. Did you do the nerd nugget? He got me. Oh, nice.

No cop. Oh, nice. Oh, nice. For now. All right, shut off your mic. Yep, see ya. Got him. Nice, PFT.

Got him. See you later, Jake. See you nerd. Commander's Jets. This is Game of Football and it's being played this weekend. Is it? In the NFL. Is it?

It's a Game of Football. I went back, I did an all-22 breakdown on the end of game sequencing by Ron Rivera. It was worse than I had originally remembered. It was very bad. He let the play clock go down to one second every single time. He didn't get a playoff intentionally before the two minute I was very bad. It was so he let the play clock go down to one second every single time. He didn't get a playoff intentionally before the two minute warning.

He is doing his very best to tank and I respect. Yeah, he doesn't care. So looking at this game on paper, I think the wrong team's favorite. I think the commander should be favored, but that doesn't account for the fact that Ron Rivera is actively trying to lose games. Yeah. Maybe Aaron Rogers will play though. Yeah, he's not going to play.

Has anybody cleared? I think he said he was. How do you know? He was would play though. Yeah, he's not gonna play. Has anybody cleared? I think he said he was. He was gonna be medically cleared and he was targeting this day to come back, but for some reason he's not gonna play. That's weird. It's very weird.

Yeah, this is, no, I don't wanna do this. I just want, I don't wanna bet this game. I will. Sam Howell to not get injured. The commander should win this game. I think the wrong team. I don't know if that's necessarily true. If you had Eric Bienemy as the head injured. The commander should win this game. I think the wrong. I don't know if that's That's early true if you had Eric B enemy as the head coach I think they win this game, but I think I think Ron is active and thank you to Ron Rivera for doing this

I think he's actively trying to get us a better draft pick in exchange for getting to say he's the head coach So there's no gaps on his resume. I don't know if I mean the jet defense is still good and if they're I don't know if, I mean, the Jets defense is still good. And if they're, if they're defensive line is, you would think would still be playing hard to get stats and incentives and all that stuff. Memes, this is a must win. No, this is a must lose. Yeah, yeah, we would swap picks. Yeah.

This, this game will impact, this is maybe the most meaningful game actually of the weekend because it's going to impact both franchises moving forward Yeah, I'm calling it the Joe Altbull. He's the top line in the draft. Okay. Oh, okay. I like that Notre Dame guy right yeah I thought the Penn State guy was I'm seeing Joe Alt higher, but slightly higher I watch tape I'm taking the left I can't get on as whole of Fashano me and memes or I don't know if I debating about this about which Loughtackle better Penn State is a beast. Yeah, Penn State Joe. Oh, also very good. Yeah, I know, but what what positions do you all play? I think he's off at the tackle. So this might be the deal of tackle

It might be the Joe Altball, but in terms of oh fuck. I wish we hadn't gotten Jewel. I wish we got the guy from Penn State instead. Yeah, that's most likely what's gonna happen. To either team. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, whichever team ends up losing this game and getting the better draft pick, if we're going based on history here, we're going to be the team that you look back on

and you say we really blew that draft. Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. Yeah, so now you almost want to win. I think the jet is a good one. He is a left tackle. So yeah, you could take both. The position is valuable.

Yeah, based on jet history, they win this game. Yeah, also. I think it was like Tuesday was the anniversary of the Trevor Lawrence fuck up. When you got Zach Wilson instead. You beat the Rams. And November, the AP wrote an article saying Notre Dame OT Joe is a once in a generation talent for the number 20 iris. We need to stop using that phrase though, once in

generation. This is a once in a generation podcast. It wasn't Quentin Nelson. Yeah, he was. Yeah, Andrew Luck once in a generation. Tony Mandrake Trevor Trevor Lawrence Brian Bosworth What's the nerd nugget for this game? Just punter Thomas Morse that ranks first in the NFL the season in punts inside the 10 with 15 of them and tied for second in punts inside the 20 28 months huge huge punting game this weekend. Trust waivers Morse dead. That's what we're gonna keep our eye on. Oh, we did cut the cheeseman So yes, he's been or long snapper got cut. He should have been cut in training camp this year.

And for some reason we used to, it doesn't get talked about enough, but the commanders used a draft pick on a long snapper that sucks. That's about as bad as it can get. That's tough. It's not great. It's not great.

Okay, next up Jaguar's at box. Maybe no Trevor Lawrence concussion. Maybe no Zay Jones hamstring. Also, the box are playing good football right now. Did you know, Devon White? I think they're going to bench them again. So they're 3-0 when they have KJ Brit playing instead of Devon White. I like the box in this game. I do too. I think the box are just good now. I like I think they stunk earlier this season. I don't think they're good. I think they're above.

They've played bad teams. I think they're above average right now. The way they're playing. Because they played they beat up on the NFC South. Yeah, which is that. That can win you the NFC South. They took care of business. It took care of business.

They also like the blitz, Trevor Lawrence not great against the blitz. I, Trevor Lawrence, like, if the Jaguars lose this game, the Jaguars are not gonna, they could maybe not make the playoffs. It's a possibility. It's crazy.

It is. We thought that when they beat the Texans a couple of weeks ago, that like sealed the deal. Congratulations to the Jaguars. But, what have you read about Trevor Lawrence because I haven't, I haven't heard one way or the other about him. I just concussion protocol.

We got to figure it out. Yeah, by the way, the Bucks three wins. So that's why I pushed back a little on there good now. They beat the Panthers by three. They beat the Falcons by four. Then they did beat the Packers soundly, but it's not murderous, though. On the road.

Yeah, but the Panthers and the Falcons are not good. Not good teams. Not good teams. Nerd nugget for this game. I'm looking and the Falcons are not good not good. Yeah, um Nerd nugget for this game. I'm looking up the Jaguar's rest of their schedule through week 15 12 year veteran Levantay David is the only player in the NFL with 100 plus tackles and 15 plus tackles for loss since 2000 David's 10 seasons with 100 plus tackles of the third most trailing only London Fletcher and Bobby Wagner It's so many very good for a long time. So many times. Imagine tackling somebody a hundred times.

All right, so the Jags should be good because they play the Panthers and Titans after this. Okay. Yeah, but that would be very Jacksonville to lose to like Malik Willis and Week 18. Yeah. What are you looking at, Max? I think memes is all over draft.

I mean, I mean, memes is just wrong about who's who the top tackle is Mees wrong he said according to his thing his eyes Joe ult No, we look we look we look something up on Sunday looked at ten of them in a row that also the Penn sake I was a those are opinion based memes are you are you thinking all because he he fits is he's running style a little bit better yeah and and the history of Notre Dame lineman and easier name to say that's the biggest thing the biggest thing okay I mean for guys from Long Island it probably does factor into the equation yes yes

uh nerd nugget for Jags oh Oh, no, you did that. Lovante dated. Cardinals bears. I hate that this game is in the afternoon. I kept on thinking it was in Arizona. Yeah, you like to be able to just kind of lose it in the shuffle. Right.

And it's one of three games in the afternoon. Yeah. So I don't know. I think the bears might lose this game. Cardinals, they outgain the 49ers last week. I would, you're down on the bears right now, but I don't think, I think the Bears might lose this game. Cardinals, they outgain the 49ers last week. I would, you're down on the Bears right now, but I don't think the Bears are as bad as you think. No, no, I think you're letting your personal emotions

bring the gateway game. I'm not down on the bear, I'm very excited about the Bears' future. The rest of the season, it's back to losing it's better than winning. That's a fact, especially a game like this, because the Cardinals are your neck and. That's a fact. Like especially a game like this because the Cardinals who you're Neck and neckwits for a pick so I'm as high as I could be on the Bears going forward the rest of this season

There's no benefit in winning these games anymore. This might be the Joe Altbull the um, let's see it is Yeah, Arizona. Yeah, so if the this could be huge swing because if the bears win this game They'd go from the fifth pick to like the 11th pick. It's funny because this weekend. I think Big cats gonna be rooting for the commanders and I'm gonna be rooting for the bears. No, the Jets can if the Jets win It's fine too. Yeah, I guess so because you're both five and nine right Right. Right. Yeah, you are going to be rooting for the bear. Let's go bears. Also, I like that everyone came out. It's cool that everyone on the bears came out and was like, it'd be a mistake to trade Justin Fields. Unfortunately, that means nothing. DJ Moore said very, he didn't equivocate. He was like, it shouldn't be a conversation. He should be a quarter. Right.

And unfortunately, like, I like that. I like I like the evidence back, but you can't make a decision based on who the players like. Right. Unfortunately, like it's just the fact like you can't came back. Oh, we're gonna draft someone else. Hope they're gonna still want to play football. They're not the GM. Yeah, they're gonna still want to play football. Mm-hmm, But it is cool to see everyone rally behind them. And yeah, I don't really want, this game is whatever. It does mean a lot. It's gotta loose. It does mean a lot to lose.

Just lose. Okay, the big, oh yeah, nerd nugget. Dude, dude, dude. Oh man, nerd nugget. That's the week. For this game. It's crazy. In the Cardinals' first 101 seasons as an NFL franchise from 1920 to 2020, there were six

made field goals of 56 plus yards. So, 56 field goals, 56 plus and 100 seasons. Matt Praitor's 58 yard field goal versus the 49ers last week gave him seven field goals of 56 plus yards and just 44 games in Arizona. Yeah, Matt Praitor's very, very strong. 44 games. He's so strong. Seven long field goals is more than the first 100 years of the franchise.

Prader Salad. It's a lot. Yeah, his 58 yarder than a kick last week. I think that would have been good from like 73. It was crazy. Yeah, but they didn't kick long field goals back in the day. That's a good safer like last 20 years. 100. Still. Yeah, but they didn't kick long field goals back in the day. That's a good saffron like last 20 years. 100.

Still, yeah. I wonder what was the long, can you find that for us? And like the 1900s? Yeah, like what was the record for the longest field goal until it was broken sometime in the 90s? That would be interesting. It was dimsy. It was dimsy, the kicker that had the club foot.

Yeah. And he had the special shoe that he wore that was just like, it was half of a foot, so the front of it was just flat. How long was it? He kicked his 60, oh, reorder. That's long and unexpected. But they made it a rule that you're not allowed to have a kicker that has a front flat.

Right, right. We need kickers with two feet here. Find that forest shake. I'm interested in that. It was Dempsey. I think it was 63. And then that was tied and then I think it got broken to 64.

Cause kicker position is definitely one of those positions that you can note like where it became very different. Where it became specialized. Yeah, where guys are really good at it and they don't miss and yeah. So I feel the mentions have been the same since 1920. Well, that's it, I don't think that's true cause the, well, no, I'll probably it probably choose to be at the front of the end.

But they were just counted differently. Yeah. They were counted exactly the same as a yardage. What do you got? I'm still looking. Okay. Add it onto the next nerd nugget. Wait, I was a nerd nugget of the week?

Yeah. Trying to think whichever or what other ones. Oh, the Pete Caravan should have been there. Yeah, the No-Cat. Yeah, no-Cat. Yeah, it doesn't hit the same one. Oh, but that one, I said that one. You should have made it Nerd Nugget of the Week.

Go ahead and get the Jake. Go ahead. That was Nerd Nugget of the Week. Duh, duh, duh, duh. Nerd Nugget of the Week. If I defeat you to a Nerd Nugget Jake, we should get a locker, and I should get to put you in the locker.

We have lockers. I don't know if they're big enough. Jake locker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. Last game on, oh no, not last game on Sunday, but last game in the afternoon, best game, fraud bull. Cowboys, it's all for who, baby, who baby. Uh, let's start with the fact that we know why Tyree Kill has been scoring all those touchdowns. He's on his third baby this year with three different women. Yeah, Jake was like, what's going on with Tyree Kill? I was like, he's just been doing a baby bump all year long. Yeah, he's been scoring every single week. Yeah, literally.

Yes. On and off the field. Yes. Also, I think Congrats, I think you got married like last month. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him, settling down. Yes. On and off the field. Yes. You also, I think, congrats. I think you got married like last month. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. Settling down.

Yeah. I guess having three kids in the same calendar year will make you reevaluate some stuff. I don't know if anyone more with his wife. I've, there's gotta be one, right? I hope. I don't know. Good luck to the couple. He has a type.

Yeah. He's got a type. I saw the graphic that they tweeted out and it was like all right I know I know what you're into Tyrick. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. Yeah, Tyrick's having a great season on and off the field He's getting a head start on his post NFL career being a porn star correct. Yeah, although Yeah, I mean, I guess they probably do pay more for cream pies No comment Do you get I paid more or less?

I think cream pies, because that's like, not everything is a cream pie, so it's like a specialized, like that would, I don't know if that's an add on for the guy. I think the girl gets paid more for that, for the guy it's just like, I would rather do that. Oh Hank said, maybe not. Oh, I agree. You know how the budgets work?

That would be funny if it actually was a line item. Tear system, yeah. All right, we got craft services for the food. This one's gonna be a cream pie, so we're gonna add next thousand. Mm-hmm. Yeah. TFN beforehand.

Yeah. All right, we're watching Tom Dempsey's 63 yarder on 1970. Yeah, you see the front of his foot, it's just flat. That's cool. Because he's born with half of a foot. Okay. Okay, that's not the front of his foot. It's just flat. That's cool. He's born with half of a foot Okay Okay, that's not a 63 yarder though. That's like a 62 and 7 eighths yarder. You really shouldn't be counting inches like that. I should All right, so that was a good nerd nugget then Jake when it stand correct. I'm about my penis or my height I was talking about height, but if you were thinking penis, no, I was thinking height originally,

and then I was like, maybe he's talking about my penis again. I never talked about another man's penis back to Tyree kill cream pie. Okay. So I'm excited for this game. I've been thinking about it a lot. It is the fraud bull. It's the unstoppable force. First, the movable object, the cowboys on the road the road verse the dolphins playing a team over 500 Hank how are you feeling in cowboy land? I feel good I feel like this is the get right game. This is the game we proved to the world where for real And it's gonna give us all of the momentum we need going into the playoffs Still trying to try to win the division went out. We win the division right Max

Is that correct? Oh, let Max run the numbers real quick. No. It's not correct. Not correct. Hey, is that not correct? I trust Max, but we want to win the division. It seemed like you really set Max up to say, yeah, you would win the division then you were wrong.

No, I actually didn't know. I, I, I, I legitimately. Right now the cowboys are listed ahead of the Eagles. That's because the Eagles haven't played the giants yet. Oh, because so they have a better divisional record. Got it, but that's only because we haven't played the giants. Got it. Yeah, this is going to be-

Wait, but the cowboys only have one loss in the division as well. I don't think they have as many divisional wins though. No, they actually have more. Do they? Yeah. But we still play the Cardinals as well. Conference. You're talking conference now. Yeah, wait.

You said division. Division. If the Eagles and Cowboys, when they're final three games, the division would be decided by strength of victory, tiebreaker, which can't be determined yet. Oh, what strength of it?

Yeah, head, word. That might, so what you're saying, Max, I think it starts, it goes head to head, then it goes division, then it goes conference. I think conference is what you're talking about. I think the wait no but the cowboys have three losses and cowboys and the Eagles both have three losses. I don't know. I think I've seen people say that like the narrative right now is that if the Eagles win out they still get the two like the percentage. I think like the percentage. All right let's look I'm going to do the simulator right now. What's awesome while you're looking at that

is like, I'm sure you guys know this, but I'm sure some listeners don't. Like the final tie breakers are coin flip. Yeah, but yeah, it should be telling us. I don't think it'll ever happen. It happens for draft picks sometimes, but like, could you imagine? Who do you send out?

Who do the cowboys and the Eagles send out for that coin toss? Had GocheetM or owner? No, like pick someone, anybody from your franchise's history. Where would they do it? Like in the office? Right now.

Rodgerick Del's office, yeah. It's, I just did it on the playoff simulator, it does have the Eagles winning the division. But I think you have to take into account every other game that you fill out could figure out what the strength of victory is. All right, so let's do this. Like we have the chiefs, they, they didn't play the chiefs.

All right, Saints Rams. We're gonna do all skitties the victory is the fifth high rickery filled out every yeah century victories the fifth and then it goes down to 12 12 was the coin toss I needed to get to a point on there's net touchdowns net points like this will never have max losing a coin toss will be incredible yeah they should actually have the president do it. Oh Man, they don't never get sleepy Joe try to flip a coin. Isn't that one of the tests that you get somebody? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. I kind of like the cowboys in this game I don't here's why I'll make my argument that you make your own okay

So the cowboys I have given up 264 points this season, fifth best in the league. Half of those games they gave up 70 points. So the other half is the majority of the points they gave up. Those seven games where they only gave up 70 points have all been against bottom tier offensive lines. So commanders, giants, panthers, giant swice, panthers, Patriots, jets, Rams, even are in the bottom half. They're more like in the

middle. The dolphins have had a good offensive line play, but now they have a shit load of injuries. So they lost, they they got their tackle back, but then they lost Austin Jackson, who might play with an oblique injury. I think the Cowboys might be able to get home. I think they might be able to pressure to in this game. My counterpoint is that Tyree Kill is going to be like 110%. Yeah. He's ready to go. And the baby bump and the baby bump, which is just his entire season.

It's been a baby bump, but I feel like in this case, they held him out last week for no real reason other than to just make sure he didn't get hurt again. Yeah. He was ready to go and pregame warmups. There's no defense for Tyree Kill. There's no protection that you can put on Tyree Kill that will stop him. He'll cream pie no matter what.

We've learned that he is going to feast on the Dallas Cowboys defense, I think. And also part of this might be because I've been watching the in season hard knocks with the dolphins. So I've got that like attachment to them that you get every preseason. Yep. When you watch it, Mike McDaniel stood up in front of the team after they lost the Titans and The speech that he gave to the team was just him going through every single mistake that he made as a coach and how he personally

Cost them the game. I love it. And how he needs to do these things differently because he was counting he was begging his players to Like have to make superhuman plays in order to keep them in that game. Yeah. to win that game and he put them in bad positions and they almost overcame how shitty his coaching was. I love that. I love it. I love, this is my Mike McDaniel game. I think that the team's going to line up and be ready to go and I love Tyree Kill in this game.

This game, no matter whoever wins this game, the loser I'm going to think is just forget about it. Biggest fraud ever. Yeah, no chance. I will change my perception on the loser of this game so severely. And the winner. Superbowl. Yeah, no, the winners.

Superbowl contender in my mind. This is the most important game of the season and the entire NFL. Yeah, they might as well eliminate the loser from the playoffs and put the winner into their conference championship. You should have to, the coach should have to wear a patch on his jacket like the Walter Payton man of the year. He's just fraud on it.

So now that you've listened all this, if you're smart, you should wait to see who the loser is and then put a few tronum because we're gonna be so wrong. Yep. And we are gonna completely eliminate the loser. And you should fade the fuck out of the winner. Yes. Yes. Yes. All right. Nerd. We won't be doing that. I just thought of it. No, no, we'll be clear. We'll stay clear with our overreaction.

Yeah. This game matters more than every other game on the count. I'm going to have it in the back of my head that I'm wrong about it, but I'm still going to follow my heart. Correct. Send the cowboys home. Yeah. We will lead. We will lead Tuesday's episode with, and the dolphins or the Cowboys have been eliminated.

Promise. I just thought of an impromptu nerd nugget. Oh, no. You guys think this is a joke? You're really, you're really stretching here. Well, it's not confirmed. But I want to. You got freestyle and nerd nugget?

Yeah, holy shit. Do you guys think this is the first ever NFL game where the two head coaches are Mike Mix? No, I can't McCarthy. He's probably coaching against Josh McDaniels before. Or the Mike McMix. Oh, Mike Mix.

Mike McCoy wasn't he the head coach of the chargers? Yeah, Mike McMick. Mike, Mike, yeah, Mike McCoy was. Or was he with the chargers? No, you with the chargers. Yeah, you know who else was there? I'm fucking a gif. Mike McShanahan. Mike V. Mike McShanahan.

I'm going to be a great name. I would hire the guy. I know his second. The confirmed our nugget, V of the NFL and CBS. The stat does back up the fraud ball allegations. Cowboys versus Dolphins will be the first game in NFL history between teams with 20 combined wins, but one or fewer wins versus teams above 500.

Cowboys, one three against teams above 500, nine and one against teams 500 or below. Dolphins, oh and three above 500, 10 and one versus 500 or below. Not only will I call the losing team fraud, I'll call them Mickey Mouse. Yeah. Chargers played the Packers week six in 2015.

So that was Mike McCoy or is Mike Barthay? Yep. All right, so probably second game ever. Don't make me fucking go. No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna find more Mike Mac. I'm serious. You've given him a purpose now, Jay.

It's cool, it's the Mike Mac bowl. Mike Mac bowl. Okay. It's like a name. Mike Mac bowl. That's actually a pretty good name, yeah. Are you Todd Bolls shows up next year after he's been fired for an interview, he's like, hey, let me please coach.

My name's Mike McBoll. Am I loading up on the Cowboys, yes. Oh, you are. It's a load up game. You're gonna take him in our weekly picture? Find out. Or you said you're loading up on him. I am.

You've been pretty good at gambling this year too, right? No. But no, it's been bad. There's no butts. I'm do. That was a big but I'm do. Yeah. But I'll give you but. But Hank has actually been pretty probably the best gambler on the show until this year. Yeah, because we were we were looking at his stats. No, he, he had no, he had one hundred dollar on a bonus day last year, but was the holidays. If facts or facts we've been looking at Hank stats and leading into this year, he was actually up money over his entire career gambling on the Barstle Sportsbook. Whoa. And I know where near that for me. I know it's nowhere near that for Big Cat. No, but this year,

no, Hank's been so bad that not only has he lost all his money this year, but he lost all his gains for his previous seasons. No, I got a, I got like a small island country's GDP. Pick a small island country. Okay. Last game on Sunday, Patriots, Broncos, Christmas Eve. Why is this prime time? Yeah, because we're the Patriots and the Patriots are America's

team. We're fucking dynasty. I think you guys are going to win this game. No, you're not going to win this game. I think you're going to cover this game. Did you see the news this week that NFL now looking at more game ball deflate allegations? Uh oh. Yeah. So in the chief's Patriots game, they found that a bunch of the kicking balls, like all the kicking balls, had been deflated down to 11 pounds per square inch instead of up to the standard 13 pounds per square inch. And now the NFL is just saying, Oh, yeah, that's the ideal gas law. It got it naturally deflated down to that. Can you think of any other important game to where to pay it with the balls were deflated down to 11 pounds per square inch and the NFL did not accept the argument of it being the ideal gas law? I can take

a one. This they should they should personally apologize to Tom Brady. Yes. After the findings of last week's game. Agreed. You think they're gonna cover? Yeah. Patreus stopped the run very well. Maybe run the, I don't know if Ramonjari's playing, is he? I'm not sure. Garrett Bulls on the Broncos did say playoffs football

from here on out. Okay. I love when that happens. Yeah. You playoffs. Luzi go home. They have an 80% chance to make the playoffs if they win all the remaining games. They might set a record for the most playoff losses in a single season. Yeah. That's true. Possibility. Uh, okay, nerd nugget. Also, I don't think this game can be flexible because it's technically

not Sunday night football. It's an NFL network game. Ah, so that might have to do with it. That makes sense. Because Saturday is the 2NBC games. Got it. That always fucks with my brain when they're like Thursday night football on Saturday. Monday night football on Thursday. Yeah.

Yeah. Bronco's quarterback, Russell Wilson, needs one passing touchdown to become the second Bronco, quarterback Peyton Manning in 2012 and 13, to pass for at least one touchdown in each of the first 15 games of a single season. Wow.

That really just shows you how bad Brock was quarterbacks have been. This is a big man. John, I would never did it. Huh? Yeah, that wasn't a passing week. No, also 15 games of the season. How many regular choosing games was the 16? It was 14 and then 16, but it was 16 for all of us. Because really as long as I can remember watching football

the 16 was like what yeah no 14 was way long I think it was yeah yeah um okay Monday Monday we have three games Chris so much football love it Raiders of Chiefs. I don't know. Maybe the Raiders? No. That's all I wrote down. No, I think it's the chiefs. Okay. You know what's crazy stat? I think I think rice is dialed. You know what's crazy stat? Because I think we all admit Travis Kelsey,

Hall of Famer, incredible tight end, has maybe lost a little step this year. It also you also could make the argument. It's maybe not his lost step. It's the fact that the receiver suck and everyone could just focus on him. Travis Kelsey is still leading the league in yards for tight ends. That's crazy. I didn't, I went to look it up and I was shocked.

We're used to saying Travis Kelsey put up 150 yard games all the time. It puts into perspective just how good he is. The fact that everyone's like, he's lost step. He's still leading the league in receiving yards. Is this Travis Kelsey's best season? Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, nuts. The way he gets talked about now is, well, it's funny

because if you listen to fantasy pockets, he might not be T1 anymore. Okay, he's still fucking really good. I think that the chiefs are, their switch flipping is inevitable. Yeah, I think that's just, we should start here. It gets started and I think that the chiefs are their switch flipping is inevitable. Yeah, I think that's just start here. It gets started and I think that the chiefs. I think we're going to end up looking at the season and saying the chiefs are the number one seed.

The only thing is, Patrick Holmes historically is a big favorite. Like, they don't cover a lot. Right. Because they just don't have to blow teams out. They kind of have the game in hand, run the ball, second half, second half, unders in the chiefs. I think it's like 13 and two this year. Yeah. We talked to Julian Edelman a lot about the chiefs and the receivers. Turns out drops are contagious. They are. So hopefully they've stopped that. Yeah. Okay. Uh, nerd nugget. AFC West titles at the conclusion of the 2015 season Broncos 15, Chargers 15, Raiders 15,

Chiefs 8, AFC West titles as it stands today. 15, 15, 15, 15, 15. With the win against the Raiders, the Chiefs will have the most AFC West titles, completely flipping the script in eight seasons. We have Pete Sweeney. God, I think that's the nerd nugget of the week. I had it.

And then I switched it. No, you made a mistake. That's a good nerd nugget. It'd be so good to be a chief fan. Yeah. Goddamn. Just look at my God. We're not allowed in Casey. We are now.

Oh, I think I think the poll ended up 52%. We're left. Fuck yes. So yeah, I might buy a house there. I went back so you know, like when someone will like a tweet from weeks ago, someone did it on that thread and I went back and I just started laughing again about that guy. It was just like don't even try to come to case. It's on sight in case.

So great. Okay, Giants Eagles, Max, you're going up against the Italian wonder. Yep, the house divided. Also, people were saying we're, we mushed the agent. He still is agent. Yeah, he is It's not off field right. Yeah, he hired a marketing agent, which I'm pretty sure happens all the time correct And they did the right move he went out to the pizza place. I think he did the appearance for free He's a stand-up guy. Yeah, stand-up guy Max yep max a hoop guy now. Mm-hmm. He's a bigva and sixers. That was a big night of hoops last night for me Big night of hoops. I went over to say hi to Max last night at the bar. I sat down next to him at the table I was just like hey Max and he's just looking to be goes how the fuck are we losing this fucking game?

That's all I said that's almost exactly verbatim what you said some guy came up to me at the bar And was like is Max like real like are you guys like to see? Are you guys making it was that on purpose when you guys get a mad or is that like planned? And I was like, you know, we were planning that max would be the greatest actor in the world. So you think if I go up to him right now, get a mad Ken. I was like, just go ask him about Jay right in the middle of the Villanova game. Oh man.

What would you say max? I don't know. Well, he immediately was like hang told me to ask that. Oh, but you did snap. He got the snap. Eagles offense is broken, Max. Did get right game. Okay, they scored the spread is alarmingly high.

Yeah, it is. They scored, Eagles scored 20 points or more in the first half, 10 times last year. They've never done it this year. Until until Sunday, Monday, Ben Solick wrote a deep dive article on the Eagles offense being broken. It was good read. It was basically like Shane Stuykin had at least some type of offense that, you know,

flowed and and Jalen Hertz injury, which we've been the first to report, is actually a big detriment because they run, they don't run under center except for the push, push, push, and they run it like he is a, they run their offense like he is a scramble and he hasn't really been a scramble this year. Designed runs yes, but like scrambling runs no. They also like the play calling is just very... Vanilla. Yeah, it's like the same six play calls. It's essentially smashing the AJ Brown man coverage button over and over. They said they were at the end of the game against the Seahawks. The goal of that play was to get pass interference.

I hated that quote. Yeah, tell, I was gonna say why I hated, but I wanna hear why you hated. Because you should never go into a play with the result hoping, Counterpoint, Joe Flacco. I don't care about Joe Flacco. Okay.

The whole middle, just go to the middle of the field. Get the yards. I don't need to get mad about that again. I agree with Max actually. Hey, Joe Flacco can do it, because he's really good at it. He's the one guy you should do that. But Jalen Hertz to get mad about that again. I agree with Max actually. Joe Flacco can do it because he's really good. He's the one guy you should do that. But Jalen Hertz to ask him to do that. You're almost saying like, hey, go out there

and throw an incomplete pass on purpose. Yes, that's like what they were asking to do. And I don't like that at the end of the game when all you needed to get was to take some yards in the middle of the field. There's also tough to Christian McCaffrey went on the man in cast and like knew the cast. Perfectly predicted the play.

Mm-hmm. And that's not good. Is this a must win? Yeah. Has to be. Has to be. Has to be. 13 and a half point favorites.

Has to be. But I mean, you lost a must win. Yeah. So your must wins mean nothing to me. They always meant nothing. That's not true. Oh. I'll also take that clip and put it on the sound point.

Ha ha ha ha ha. Uh, okay. Last, oh, Nernugget, did you do it? Jalen Hertz ranked second in the NFL with 33 total touchdowns, trailing only Josh Allen, who has 37 Hertz needs two total touchdowns to tie his franchise record of 35 set last year, which he shares with Randall Coneham in 1990. Sounds like he's the guy. 37 hurts needs two total touchdowns at high as franchise record of 35 set last year, which

he shares with Randall Coneham in 1990 sounds like he's the guy. Hmm. Maybe great stat. Jake. Maybe he didn't say he was the thermostat this week. I like that quote. I'm the thermostat. I set the temperature of every room.

I'm in. That's just a good mentality to have. Yeah. Good mindset. It is. Uh, okay. Best game. Ravens of 49ers. Who boys is a treat? I can't wait. It is a good mindset. It is. Okay, best game. Ravens of 49ers. Who boys is a tree?

I can't wait. It is a good Christmas present for America, isn't it? Yeah, there's also I think the latest two teams with the best record in each conference and played since like 1993. Who? Who? I love the Niners.

I love the Ravens, okay? I like that we, yeah. I love the Niners. I love the Ravens. Okay. I like that we, yeah. I love the Niners. I just think, I don't think that the Niners can be beat when they have their team together. If you're missing Trent Williams' Debo Samuel, then that's, they're obviously much, much weaker. Well, we're talking spread too.

Yeah, I'm talking spread. Are you talking spread? I like Ravens and spread. Okay, I like the Niners. Yeah, I'm talking spread. Are you talking spread? I like ravens and spread. Okay, I like the Niners. I've yet to determine whether or not I like them, but I think that I like them against the spread. Okay, a couple of things for the ravens case. Shout out to guys of sports info solutions.

The ravens are second best in the league at, or sorry, they're first in the league in stopping yards after catch, which is what the 49ers feast on. Think about all the times when it's like, you know, D-bow over the middle, 10 yard, boom, he takes it to the house. And cafeteria out of the back field,

little, you know, screen, boom, he takes it to the house. Ravens gang tackle, they do a good job, get into the ball. I, that's part of why I like this. I like the Ravens for that reason. Also, I like the Ravens because Lamar Jackson and the Ravens are 19 and five against the spread as an underdogs since 2015. Lamar remember PFT 19 and one straight up against the NFC. I don't look at the Niners being the NFC. The Niners are different. They're just the Niners. Here's another one. Is this truly Monday at football?

Yes, Joe Buck will be on the call. Seven straight upsets, outright. Yep, Monday at football. Do we know what the word with Kyle Hamilton is? I do not. Yeah, I think the Ravens are gonna keep you, I think they're gonna stay in this game. Kyle Hamilton feels disrespected. I don't like that.

Oh, no. He's disrespected going into this game. But he's disrespected that they're underdogs to the Niners. This is you should say like you should be underdogs to the Niners. Like you maybe not five points, but Tomman gets all the credit for being the underdog guy. Harboh is just as much an underdog guy. Yeah. They crush as underdogs.

Yeah, I still like the Niners. I just don't think that the Niners with a healthy team. I don't think they can be beat Brock party is just good, just playing good. And with all the talent that they have, I love the Niners to win every single game that they're in if they're healthy. And if the world Niners win this game, I think it's pretty much set that they're going to be tough for them not to get to one seat. Yeah, because they've beaten the Cowboys and the Eagles head to head. And their last two games are commanders. Oh, I'm sorry. That's going to be bad in the Rams. So I, I would say that maybe they're going to take their foot off the gas if they've got

the ones he locked up. Well, they can't get it locked up this week. Kyle Shanahan is gonna put his foot to the ground against the commanders. He's still fucking hates the commanders, no matter. Even though Snyder's gone, he is gonna want to score 50 on us. I guess they could get it this week if the, no, the Lions, Cowboys and Eagles would all have to lose. Rams could be playing for a playoff spot in that last week. That game could be interesting. Oh, you're talking to yourself into this? No, I'm just saying. Well, no, but if the Niners win this week and against commanders, the Niners will have the one seat. Well, they could lose this week too. Could lose this week. I guess the Lions could

still get it. I wonder what the tiebreaker is there. Is there a line that you can bet right now on AFC versus NFC in the Super Bowl? I think so. Because I feel so strongly about the Niners that I almost want to bet them because I'm sure there'll be plus money, right? No. You mean there'll be the Niners to win as a future, but I'm also curious about what the AFC NFC Super Bowl odds are right now in it. I'm sure there is. But then you're obviously injuries. That would suck. Yeah, that would suck. Yep.

Read. What's the nerd nugget here? And running back Christian McCaffrey and Water See Redibo Samuel, the 49ers are the first team in NFL history to have multiple players with five or more rushing touchdowns and five or more receiving touchdowns in the same season. Yep. Those guys can do it all. They can do it all. Also, how many people in the game tackled? Yeah. How many people in media, if this is a good game, I'm expecting like 10 or 20 journalists

being like, sign me up for Round 2 in Las Vegas in February. Are you, when you say that, are you saying you're gonna start? I agree you are gonna tweet that. But don't you think a lot of others will too? Yeah, and get me all the popcorn. Yeah, give me all the popcorn. Or what a mind another one? What a mind another one between these two?

Yeah, in February. Definitely happened. Yeah. Okay, I'm trying to find if there's that line. I'm trying to find if we have to, I'm sure someone has found it. What is it? AFC conference plus 115.

Okay, so that would be a good bet. It'll be what like minus one. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah, five, one 10 something like that. Yeah. And you and you would have to imagine if the Niners roll to the Super Bowl, they're going to be more than a field goal favorite. Yeah. I think I might do that. Okay. Just go NFC. Yeah. Should just take the Niners to win the Super Bowl, even though it's a terrible line. I was looking at what that is 240 but it's probably better than it would be if they win this game on Monday. Yeah, yeah Yeah, if they win this game, they'll there might be like 200 which is crazy. All right, we're ready for some picks Yeah, I'm ready standings. I wish I do bigger than more picks We can so we're locked in a three. Yep. Yep, and one of them has to be on Monday Okay, so for the 15 minute opening act We can. So we're locked in a three? Yep, yep. And one of them has to be on Monday.

Okay, so for the 15 minute opening act, I'm at 19 and a half, max is at 15 and a half, memes is at 15. So I'm close to safety, but not there yet. Right now they're half a game separating max and memes. One hour, big cat 19 and a half. PFT 18, Hank 14 and a half. So three and a half with seven to go. Not six.

And Big Cat, you are five up on Hank with seven to go. Okay. Who goes first? Max. Max. I will be taking the Ravens plus five and a half. I'm willing to. I like it.

I like it, Max. I'm supporting him. And we have to pick a Christmas game, right? Yeah. Okay. I just find it. Like it, Max. 49. And we have to pick a Christmas game, right? Yeah. Okay. I said five. A Christmas day, yeah. Right, right, right.

Yeah. Five. Can we not take the same picks? No. Even. No, it's three games on Christmas. You wanted the holiday pick. How do you pick his holiday?

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Max, Hank, one of the Ravens. I'm still fighting over here too. Okay, all right, that's fair. I'm going to go Lions minus three. Okay, Hank, I guess the Vikings. I guess the Vikings. I guess the Vikings. I'm going to go 49ers.

I'm going to go 49ers. I'm going to go 49ers. I'm going to go 49ers. I'm going to go 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going to go 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going to 49ers. I'm going go 49ers. Oh, minus five. All right, I'll go the over in the Ravens 49ers game, 46 and a half. I'm gonna take the over in the Giant Seagulls game.

42 and a half. Okay. Jake got two picks. I'm going to take Patriots Broncos under 34 and a half. I'm seeing 34. Same. I see 34 and a half. I justiders. Okay, that is my... PFT. I'm going to go with the Miami Dolphins minus one. Against the Cowboys.

Okay, I'm going to take a hold your nose, moving on Patriots plus seven. Good pick. Against the Broncos. I'll be taking the Cowboys. Oh Shocker I was thinking about taking the Cowboys like nah, I gotta leave that for Hank a perps pft Hugh your boy I don't align for Hank. He's up pft Up that'll be huge Hank Miami has a dolphins like greatest football team

They run the ball from gold gold like no one's ever seen all right memes I'm gonna take the Jaguars bucks over 41. I see 41 and a half. I see 41 41 it is I am going to take Wow, that just changed the Cardinals plus four against the Bears It's 4 1 1 half 4 1 1 half a lot of movement today the bears. It's 4.5, 4.5, I love it. A lot of movement today. And I am going to take the Packers Panthers over 37.5. Gross. Off the display of the week, Bryce Young. Gross. Okay. Memes. Holiday pick. I'm going to go over 43 Giants Eagles.

That was already picked. I took it. Yeah. Good pick though. Love that. Over 40 and a half Raiders Chiefs. You're just gonna go to the next over. Jumping around. Hank. Big pick. I'm going to take the

Patriot Broncos over 34. Ooh, okay, and a half Let's go 34. Oh, let's see what it is right. Well, I took under 34 and a half I'm taking under 34 over 34 over 34 Does that work I think so right now I just refreshed it. It's over 34 and a half. Okay, so you're taking over 34 and a half. Do you want to change your pick? You can change your pick. Can't change it to over 34. You want to buy a half point?

I'll let you buy a extra minute. I'll let you buy a half point. Hey, definitely gonna be 20 to 14. But if you lose, you have to add 10 minutes on to your... No, I'll do 34 and a half. Okay. Uh You know what PFT you talked me into it. I'm gonna take the browns minus two and a half. Okay. Good pick. Thank you I'm gonna take falcon's colts over 44 and a half. I like that. No Shane's stiking overs. Yeah, it's it's money

So high and a few I get to root for my guy. Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pitnik in both plenty. Oh, huge. I definitely knew those things. Huge. Pitnik's plan. Yeah, full of participants in practice, eh? Wow. Built different.

Just making sure everyone took a Christmas pick, I think we all did. Jake finishes off. I'm going to take. Bucks minus two and a half against the Jaguars. Bucks are feeling good right now. A good pick. Overall, if Hank went three and O and PFT went O and three, what would it be?

Two. Half. Half with four to play. If he goes two and one and PFT goes one and two. Four and a half with four. That would be it. Wait, he one and two four and a half with four that would be it Wait, he'd be up four and a half. Oh, if PFT be tanked this week. It's over right? No, but if I go one and two and Hank goes two and a half with four Not that not dead. So you need the sweep

Sweep is everything. Yeah, you got was dolphins is pretty much everything. That is that's for all the marbles. Yeah Okay, should we do fantasy fuck boys and we'll get the jewels. Let's do it Yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo I love the fucking holiday. It is the fucking season. You got food you got family you got everything you got football the three Fs in life The father son and the Holy Spirit Love the holidays shout out to the holidays. It's the season triple F Oh, yes, my sit-em coastal Carolina Okay, yeah since when can a coach go to the beach with some of the dancers on the team what is this fucking? What is it? He just got Korea? He just had some guma's

Yeah He's there for the ballgame, they're going to the beach just all the days What the fuck? Lay it in up My sedum, redacted Or my sleeper is redacted Yeah, you definitely watch your name, yeah I think we're gonna see a lot of redacted this week

I'm saying 50% plus redacted Henry, Henry Lockwood was not on that list Facts, not one of the redacted this week I'm saying 50% plus redacted Henry shit and relockwood was not on that list facts Not one of the redacted names. Oh, okay Hey, what's up dickheads? It's Anthony Giuliani Tony G And Anthony and big ass yo, what up? My starting is my uncle Rudy Rudy. He can't pay. He's got no more money He's he's flat broke right now, so just move on to the next one, right? You're not you leeches on sucking off this team anymore, right? I went to a security guard's haircut. It did great haircut. That guy, that's the barber that knows

the time of day. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what for my, my sitting is Cameron Diaz saying that you got to normalize couples having separate bedrooms or Tell you this much of Cameron Diaz and me. She tried to give me a second bedroom I'd say you got another thing come and go. We'll sleep in the same bed I'll take a second bedroom call to fuck box fuck box and then my sleeper this weekend is Tommy D Tommy D for the pizons out there. He just trade mark. He just trademarked the passing pizon Love that I like that. I like that nickname Tommy trademark Tommy cutlets passing Paison. Tommy is going to go into Philly and that crowd is going to be rude. So hard for my guy and they're going to say, hey, this guy, he's a good guy.

He's one of us. We can't root against our guy, the passing Paison. And that's what I love about the city feel about What's up fuckers Tony Bologna and mr. Bologna my stardom is cheese and crackers Holiday season still up. Oh boy. I go hard in the pain The Roni all fuck the pursuit you got the seven fish. You got to save room for don't even give me a dinner I'll just see I'll just sit by those cheese and crackers all fucking day Cotruderie. Yeah, caught true Dury

My sit-em is Zion Williamson Rest of his contract is not fully guaranteed because he's too fat Yeah, he sat out a bunch of games last year and they said guess what? Yoink? Yeah. He had to be under $2.95, he wasn't under $2.95 real fucked up. Say this to him right before Christmas. Wait, wait, wait, they actually wait a minute. Yes. The unusual contract also states that some of his weight and pounds in his body, that percentage

must be less than $2.95. That's unfortunate. Unfortunate. That's discrimination. It is. My sleeper. Rivalries. Charles Barkley said he'd root for Afghanistan over Alabama.

That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. That's a real rivalry. Both had the same literacy rate. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Ah.

Okay, yeah, that's, that was an insult contract. That's, that's tough. Like, how did the NBA media not get their hands on that contract before to say he has to stay under $2.95? There would have been like a $2.95 watch Twitter account. Yeah. It's like when Kyler Murray's contract was leaked.

It's like you have to watch X number of hours of film a week. So the way it reads is I don't think he's 295 pounds, but so it's the sum of his weight in pounds and his body fat percentage. So he could be like $2.75 and he's like 30% body fat. Yeah, that would rock. Yeah, that's what I would do. I would just lose on my muscle weight, get down to 250, 40%.

Yeah. That's unfortunate for Zion. Yeah, that sucks. It sucks. Remember that girl that was like, hey Zion, I want to have your baby. Yeah. That whole thing.

Yeah. Could have lost some weight, a little your baby. Yeah. That whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Could have lost some weight, a little more sex. Yeah. What do you have? You had Pepsi and Coke and his bathroom? Yeah. That's why Tyree Kills and such good shape. Yeah.

Did you see any guy? Not an ounce of fat on him. Yeah. Okay. Let's get to our good friend, Julianelman in studio before we do that. PFT, you had a quick word from our friends at BetterHelp. I did, yeah. I want to talk to you guys about BetterHelp.

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Literally for you. It's Julian Edelman. Three time Super Bowl champion, one time Super Bowl MVP, Future Hall Famer. Why haven't we had a Julian Edelman Hall Famer debate recently? I think like that tied down. I think we had it right when you retired because your retirement got hijacked by people being like Adam Shaft, it was like possible future Hall of Famer. Yeah. And then we had to discuss whether or not you were Hall of Famer in the moment that was supposed to be about saying goodbye to the game. What's the question?

The question is, are you a future Hall of Famer? Yeah, are you a Hall of Famer? And follow up question, will there be a certain amount of times that you don't get in the Hall of Fam that you'll be like, actually I don't want it? Like if you get voted in like nine years after, you'd be like, that was kind of a pity vote. I don't want it like if you get voted in like nine years after we'd be like that was kind of a pity vote I don't vote. Okay. We'll say it's a pity vote. Yeah, the thing is I think you I think you've got a whole thing moments

Like I can imagine the DVD. This is so mean that we're just no, it's good I'm saying like this is good for your case where I close my eyes and I think about Julian Edelman And after I get past the thirst traps and the shirtless pictures on Father's Day and the PEDs and the Pete know he get his drink spike. I envision Julian Edelman making that catch in the Super Bowl against the Falcons. Yeah. Can't tell the story of football without Julian Edelman. That's a fact. Fact.

Yeah. Who would who would give your. This is making you uncomfortable. I'm like, I's a fact. Yeah. Who would who would give your this is making you uncomfortable. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. I haven't even thought about it. Is it weird when you see that debate happening and you're like, this kind of weird that everyone's

decided? Yeah. Like it's mad about it. Like I'm saying something about it. I'm like, I have whatever. Right. Like they're talking. People are getting like legitimately arguing.

Yeah. You haven't said anything you're like I just played ball yeah I just played ball yeah all right so you so we haven't seen you in a while yeah want to talk about just current NFL I don't know if you've seen but there's been reports that a coach might get fired yeah I've seen. I've talked about him. So do you think Ron Rivera will get fired? Yeah, I do. Okay. Yeah, I think you probably well, I actually disagree then. I think he's going to be able to go out on his own terms after the end of the season. It's going to be a mutual parting of ways that is in no way a firing or a

presented as a firing. But I think what big cat might have been alluding to correct me from wrong. I don't want to interpret what you're saying and misinterpret it. Yeah. There's another coach, one of you super balls with you in New England. And there's a lot of people talking about the possibility that he goes to the Washington commanders. It's a discussion that's happening across the league. Could you see Bill Belichick coaching for any team but to New England Patriots next year?

I mean, I think it's a reality that's gonna come. I won't believe it until it's done but when the media starts getting on this and start talking about it whether it's smoked there's fire and I just hope it's handled correctly, you know like professionals because you know bills a huge part of the success that we had. I mean, he laid the template. Mr. Kraft was a huge part of the success that we had. Tom Brady was like, it's a team sport. And, you know, he was, I think he's the best coach that I ever had. I always felt prepared. I always felt like we had nuggets on, on teams. And we had, we had a competitive advantage because of how we prepared and the time that the coaching

staff always put into the game. So could I see him coach for another team? It's going to be weird, but yeah, I mean, everyone gets fired. He used to say that all the time. Bill would always say that everyone gets fired in this business. And I remember him talking about the media once and he was like You know one of the things were how we were supposed to handle the media this that he goes look, you know, they're just looking for a story like It's gonna be a day where they throw me in on the fucking bus and it looks like it's it's starting to turn up So Hank's got to go in a second do this live stream What what would you tell Hank to give him? Cause he's kinda down. He doesn't, literally all he has left is this lighthouse.

That's all he's got. The lighthouse. The lighthouse is the lighthouse. I haven't been yet. Fake his fuck. It's not, yeah, it seems awesome. Yeah, but he's like beaten down. He doesn't know what this is like.

He's living the other half. It's the end of an era. Yeah. Yeah, it's, what do I say to Hank? I mean, Celtics look good. Yeah, it sounds good. What are you doing? That's a great answer.

You know, I mean, the Bruins are doing pretty good, aren't they? Are they doing good? Yeah, he's a huge blockhead. So, yeah, it's gonna be tough probably for a little while. This is, this is, you know, when Empire falls, yeah, take some time to rebuild. It's kind of a somber transition because he's been such a big part of that entire area and just a part of football for so long. It's gonna be

weird. Oh, what? What? Sorry. What were you talking about? Hank. I thought you have to talk about me, but. I'm just saying, Hank too. Hank was a big part, like Brock told us what a big impact Hank on. He had on winning those Super Bowls. Amongst the guys you played with, there have been a couple names that have been maybe linked

to being the next head coach of the Patriots. We don't talk about another man's job, so we're not gonna say that Bella Check has been fired or anything, but I'm saying hypothetically, in a scenario where you had a new head coach next year between let's just say, let's say male and let's say, Vraibs, who would you want taking over for Bellicac? Oh, that's tough. I'm a fan of both.

I think Vraib and unbelievable, I coach. I mean, it seems like his team always squeaks away with wins they're not supposed to have. I mean, they've been number one seeds. They've built something in Tennessee that's been pretty competitive for the last, what, eight years? How long has he been there? Six, seven years?

Seven. Eight years. You know, Jarrad, he's one of the smartest football players I played with. You know, he was the guy that was helping me getting lined up and I was playing DB. I'd look at him. He was covered fucking five get over there. You know, so Gerard knows football. But it, you know, he hasn't coached a head coach.

He hasn't had a head coach in roll yet. So if it was, if I were to go that, that route of, of hiring a coach, you know, with, with the pick that they're probably going to, I would want to probably have an offensive minded guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of what the leagues going to. Matt Patricia. Bring him back. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe Maddie P. Do you think play a hypothetical out? Kraf walks into Bella checks office after the season. He's like, look, I think times come, we're going to part ways. Bella checks says, what if I bring back Ernie Adams and Dante's Karnakia? And crafts like shit. The boys are back. We got to do this. Does he

have that card in his back pocket? I don't think so. I think they're out. Dante's over in a, where he used to go. He somewhere in Rhode Island, Naira Gantsett, and he swims laps right now with the whales. I was like, I'm not joking. He's like 85 years old, the guy would swim every morning. He's a badass. I don't think he's come out of retirement.

And Ernie, I have no clue where he is. That's probably for the bad of, yeah. He's probably, he's a badass. I don't think he's come out retirement. And Ernie, I have no clue where he is. That's probably for the bad of, yeah. He's probably off the grid. Off the grid. He's like Jason Bourne. He probably is still keeping notes though. Wouldn't you think? Definitely.

Yeah, like he never stops. I honestly wonder if Bill ever calls those guys and asks, or is he just in the program of, I'm with the guys I'm in right now. Yeah. I remember Dante when we didn't have him, we had Goode, Goody Air, or the offense line coach. I remember I would see Dante, he would come in and he would consult, you know, I think

do some of those kind of roles or work a guy out or go look at a guy for Bill. So, I don't think that card's gonna be able to be pulled. Yeah, I like the fact that Dante's just out swimming with whales. He just needs to be around his big dudes all the time. Yeah. I just like being around big things. He does, dude. He's probably yelling at those whales.

Get formation. Hello, leverage. But you're fucking hand. Like, he's probably yelling at those whales. Yeah, get formation. Hello, leverage. But you're fucking hand. Like he would yell. And that's why he was such a good coach. Because you would see in film, you know, in the film room, sometimes a coach will just like yell at you. Like we got to get better.

Like like Dante would break down the fundamental what you have to do do like it'd be really mean how he would say it. Like you fat fuck put your right foot over here drop your ass put it on your hand like he give the actual technique and that's what a good coach is. Yeah. You know what I mean? I love the guys behind the guy too in football because it's like the Georgia strength and condition coach Scottson Claire. guy to in football because it's like the Georgia Strength and Condition Coach Scott Sinclair. He was with Sabin at Bama for all those wins and then he goes to Georgia and they win two

national championships. And I'm like, this guy, he's got the secret sauce. Like he's the guy behind the guy. He's the one who's with the players all through the off season. Like the Strength and Condition Coach is the most important coach I believe college football, like each program because he's with them all the time. He's making, you know, little skinny kids, 18 year olds into men. Yeah. And it's like the guy behind the guy that doesn't get all the shine.

Sometimes those guys are like, what makes it all tick without a doubt. I mean, it's, it's always funny to see the dynamic of, of the head coach with the strength coach because the strength coach is a kind of like he's the ears, right? He's the ears, but he's also, you know, the head coach, you go up to the strength coach and be like, you know, how we run in today? How, you know, he's like checking the cars and, you know, he's in the panic. Yeah, you know, you got a couple hamstrings coach, but we'll get him right in the, you know, weight room.

Like shit like that. And it is, I think the strength coach is more important in college because you're influencing the younger kids, you know, when you get to the pros, you would think that you'd have that relationship with the strength coach, but it you don't. Because you guys aren't lifting heavy and stuff, right? You do in the off season, but you don't. Because you guys aren't lifting heavy and stuff, right? You do in the off season, but you don't want to get hurt

in the weight room. And it's more specialized to your position by the time you get to the national football league where you may even hire a third party trainer to work on speed or you work on change of direction. There's all these guys with those, their techniques and stuff. There's always an LA guy or a fucking Florida guy.

Houston guy where, you know, the Bama Ritos of the world, where you go and run with him and he makes you, you know, so it's just different when you get, when it becomes a job. So, I wanna talk about the whole league right now. Maybe, you know, get all your thoughts because you're on TV all the time Also games names back back great podcasts. We both been on it. Yeah awesome like you're going viral I feel like every other week right now with the MJ story telling that was that was so MJ told you he was gonna

He's gonna bet on you before the Super Bowl. He said I got a lot of money on you guys don't fuck it up He said I got a lot of money on you guys don't fuck it up I was So intimidated, but I loved him even more after yeah like he he he he put his alpha on me Did you think during that Super Bowl like at any point like break him and that break of the game like shit? I'm gonna completely forgot about it. You put the blinders on but I mean that was that was pretty cool Yeah, so so one of the big stories right now Is Kansas City. Yeah, why do you the big stories right now is Kansas City, a wide receiver room.

So what do you think is going on in that wide receiver room? Like if I were in that wide receiver room, I'd just basically just keep telling my homes, like I'll catch the next one, don't worry, just keep throwing it to me. But like the pressure that those guys have on them, did you ever have a moment like that where your room is not doing everything,

like maybe there's a bunch of drop balls in a game and you're sitting there and here like Tom was giving us like the throws. We just weren't making the plays. Yeah, I've been in rooms like that. You know, where we're you're not holding your end of the bargain up, you know, as you know, as the team goes. And that comes down strictly to confidence. And it is hard for young guys like in Kansas City right now.

These guys are young guys, a young group. And that beast of Kansas City. I mean, they're like the new. Pants, yeah. Like the new pats, you know, I mean, you have the, the superhero quarterback. You got a great coach. You guys have a system that's in place. You got a tight end that, you know, demands all the eyes. So everyone's looking at the receiver

and saying, well, it's going to rely on you. So it's tough. I'm sure they're hearing some of the noise about it. You know, it's, it's, it's easy to nowadays with, with the social and, and everything. But it ultimately comes down to just practice and preparation. Like whenever I would go into like a, I had a couple of drops or something, I would always just, I'd, you know, you go back to the fundamentals. You have to do extra ball drills. You have, you know, you take practice like the mini games, you know, just because the

more pressure you put yourself through and practice, you know, it makes the more pressure you put yourself through it and practice, you know, it makes the game easier when that pressure comes on the game. So, you know, there's going to have to be some leadership that comes out of that room, you know, the Rishi Rice kid. He's had some production these last few weeks. And I guarantee, you know, Patrick Mahomes, the type of guy that's going up to him and Watson and saying, Hey, guys, like, I know there's been a couple drops, but let's build off of the successes, those little successes that you had, you know, and that's what they have to do. Just try to stack good days together in

practice. And it'll translate in the games. Yeah. Our drops contagious. They are. Go. They are. How so? Because I've heard people say say it and it always sounds funny when somebody on TV's like drops are contagious You know But is it like a mental thing where one ride receiver? He drops a couple easy catches and then that just adds the pressure on the other guys where they're like fuck that guys Dropping it I really better make sure that I catch mine and that added pressure makes them more likely to drop a ball Yeah, I would say probably, but the good leaders

and the great quarterbacks, they don't yell at you for drops. They yell at you for stupid shit, like, you know, not knowing a formation or a pre-snap penalty or, you know, a technique in a route. Like that's when they get mad. They understand drops are gonna happen. As a quarterback, you're on that level of where you have to play, you know, and figure out each guy in your rooms, what kind of coaching or what kind of love do they need? Do they need tough love? Do they need, you know, supportive

love? Do they have, you know, how are you gonna, how are you gonna make these guys get the best out of themselves? So, I still think they're figuring that out in Kansas City, but when you have you know the defense that they have right now and Patrick my home is you're still gonna have a shot. I don't think they're the favorite Yeah, I think Baltimore is real tough right now with what they have going over there But I wouldn't be surprised if they go, I mean, they're probably going to win their last three games. Yeah. And that's just going to get them more confident. You know, and that's what it's really about. These next three weeks are going to be, you know, a pivotal part of the season because, you know, you're starting to get your, your grind

going. I remember back in 2018 when we lost the Steelers, we had two losses in a row in like close to December, late November and like that's we were hitting the panic button. Right. We're like we got to get this shit going right now because you know you got to get in those runs and that's where your confidence builds and you get excited for work because there's a there's a light at the end of the tunnel. The season's right there. You know what I mean? You know that those weeks when you're like six to probably 12, your body doesn't feel good. The lust of the season starting is not there no more.

Guys are banged up more. Whether. Whether starting to get a little colder, it gets hard and it becomes the grind. This time of the year is when you start getting those cream teams. Yeah. Have you ever had to react from losing a must win game?

Yeah, that's that that that's Steelers game. We felt like that was a must win game because we dropped one. Yeah. And then we lost that one. You know, and then we went on our role, but you know, the sense of urgency in the building after those kind of losses,

with the teams that I was on, the urgency went up. So the schedule might actually work out well for the chiefs, where it's like they get three easier opponents, maybe they use those weeks to get right, and then in the playoffs, we don't have the drops anymore. Our receivers are fine. I mean, it could. it comes down to making the plays. You know, I tell you right now, when you get to the playoffs, there's always

the saying the coaches say we ain't saving nothing. So that's when you get the plays and the skiing comes out even more, more magnified, something you've been working on all year. So, you know, I have trusted they're going to be able to figure out ways to get those guys the balls. You know, the way they need to get it. Yeah. Can the 49ers be beat? Yeah, but it's going to be tough. Well, how do you beat them? Like they look so much better than everyone else. I mean, you got to, you got to run the ball against you have to run the ball against them. The number of carries and it has to, you can't lose on first down. You do not want to get on a hole against that defensive line that only has to rush for,

and then you can get all that crazy scheme of the defense behind and they fly, they're physical, they all swarmed to the ball, they play hard. It's tough, but you have, like, whenever we were playing against the best defensive lines, the bond Miller D lines and shit like that, we always had to run the ball because those guys don't like, guys coming at them. They want the pass set. So they want to go and do all their fucking moves that they practice in the hallways when they're going to the cafeteria.

You always see the defensive ends doing a fucking shake shake this or it's weird. Like Ninkovitch and Chan Jones used to do that. But yeah, I just got a loss of thought. Yeah. Wait, all right. With the Niners, it's interesting. I was going to say the way to beat them just injure the quarterback. And then the backup quarterback.

Yeah, it's tough. I mean, you got you got to play tough. You got it. You got to play. You got to keep that offense off the field. Yeah. You know, that's what the running game does as well. And you have to execute in the red area and on third down, which that's where they're good.

So we had Jeff Saturday on last week, and something that's very interesting to me looking at, like the NFL right now, specifically in December, there's teams that have had good seasons, but they have a glaring weakness. Like the Eagles defense or the Lions defense, and we asked them like, can you correct this? Do you remember a time when it was like we're not that good but something

skim wise or how we practice was able to fix that because it does feel like every year there's a team that we kind of write off and they can make a deep run because they fix something that you know whether it be defense or, that they look totally different come January. I honestly think it's not just one thing that you fix. It comes down to, you know, guys working together to execute a play. And when you get guys that don't worry about the big holes that you're, you have or whatever and get to like what we have to do to win. If you can get everyone to buy into that and you guys can have good weeks of preparation and when practice looks, there's not a ball on the ground,

there's not a fucking split double team. Like when all those little things start getting corrected and that's when you go on your runs. You know, that's when the confidence is rolling. It's stupid, it sounds stupid, but everything from the success that I had or our teams had You always saw it in that week of practice. Right. Have you ever had like a great week of practice and you're feeling really good And then you go to the game get get your teeth kicked in

Yeah, I like what happened there. Yeah One year against Baltimore. I had like, and that it was when we just traded for like, DM branch. And I and we traded Randy. So I was sitting there like man, I'm like a hell of more reps. Hell yeah. Had a great week of practice. And I ended up

having like, I got knocked out of the game by Ray And I was like fuck That was like the only one time but other than that Anytime I had like a really solid week of practice translated it always translated Yeah, so you think the Ravens out of the AFC you think to the best team I'm gonna throw another team at you team. Nobody wants to play right now. You know who that team is? Let's hear it. I think it's the bills.

Yeah. I think nobody would want to play the bills right now. I got to see this week from the bills. Yeah, because that was something they've never done. They've never relied on the run game. And that's something that I've always said that they should incorporate. Josh Allen under center.

You know, and I got gotta see this week with the bills because that, you know, the offense, are their defense when playing from behind is doesn't play the same from how if they're playing from ahead. You know, that's when they can start using their schemes and McDermott can do all his stuff on defense You know that they've kind of struggled on the defense aligned position not including last week

Last week Oliver and you know Vaughn was effective. I think Vaughn's gonna continue to get better with his knee I mean, he's an older guy and he's still recovering with that injury which I've had You know, you get better as the year goes on because you need that load with that injury which I've had, you know, you get better as the year goes on because you need that load. So I expect him to get better and he's a veteran, you know, he'll probably start kicking it up. Yeah, that's a tough team to play. But I got to see this week how they're going to, are they just going to try to go back to what they were because, you know, the sudden jolt of a really good game, like they haven't

been like that all year. Yeah, they've been so inconsistent. Two and a row too. Yeah, like the chiefs in the Cowboys. You know, so like it's, I wanna see some consistency because it's usually the teams that are consistent, consistently doing well in big games

or the teams that go and runs. The one thing I loved, Joe Brady had a press conference. I think it was today where he was like, our plan wasn't to run the ball like that. It just worked. And then we're like, why would we go away from that? A red dude team. A real, a do over team.

That's what coach you say. Yeah, but that's like the best, those are the best offensive coordinators I would assume that like, yeah, they might have a plan, but if someone's working, why would you, you don't have to win pretty? Now you got to feel the flow of the game. Right. You have, you know, we were never a scripted team that like a lot of the West Coast teams, they have a 15-play script, and they'll go through

that 15-play script, and then they'll do adjustments off that script. You know, we had, we had like, kind of a hybrid of that where we had a script of plays that we wanted to get in the first quarter that had plans to see how they were playing it to be able to counter it. Like a flow chart. If then, it just play works. Exactly. There's a full flow. I mean, they have the category.

That's the play sheet is one of the most incredible things to see from an offensive quarter year, how they design their play sheet. They've got to have it plays. They're fucking third down windows that are broken up in through to two to five, you know, short yard it like it. They have it all broken down when you look at those things. It's pretty cool. So I think, uh, yeah, you got to feel the flow of the game if something's working.

Yeah, because like you spam it that that chief's championship game that you're in. Yeah. I feel like you spam that play Of you over the middle. It was like it felt like five times a row and you know a couple of those run-gap plays that we were running Yeah, we felt we had you know good good matchups on all those plays and You know when it's nut cut in time and it's you know the playoffs You got to go to the plays that that you executed the best throughout the year. Yeah. So when you're spamming a play like that, do you ever, like, does the defense ever say like, you know, we know this is coming?

Yeah. And but they still couldn't stop it. Sometime. That's got to feel like a superpower. No. It doesn't feel like a superpower, but, uh, you know, it's pretty cool. Yeah. I was thinking about it, you know, like, because I used to run a lot of those crossers and I would run over to the Thiefer Robber, which is the other safety that comes down.

So they funnel you into him. So it's a form of doubling. You know what I mean? This guy will not get beat on the outside. And this guy will catch you on the inside so that it's a way of using someone. And like when you get on a great page with the quarterback, there's one thing that can never be covered, the perfect throw. Yeah. You could have a guy in the perfect position. You can have everything. But if there's a perfect throw and you make

the catch, I mean, it's un uncoverable. That's the damn marino. Wasn't that his quote? Was it? There's no defense for the perfect pass. Maybe. Yeah, it was. What about in the NFC? There's a team I'm concerned about.

I've got rising levels of concernment with this organization. The Philadelphia Eagles. Would you be concerned? I am. If you were concerned? I would be concerned. I'm hitting, I'm pressing the urgency button

We need to we need to press that You know, they've been struggling with an identity all year on offense The defense you know, they're designed to get after the quarterback because that's where a lot of their monies at and they're Draft capital and they really haven't been getting after the quarterback and they haven't been able to stop the run And you know, we've all seen what, you know, the secondary has been doing. So you're getting to the point where you have to be concerned. You know, you're going to start playing the best teams in the league. Like, when you go to a playoffs, it turns like a flip, like a switch. Like everyone's playing like 15 to 20% harder.

There's nothing else that you keep in the gas tank. Did your balochack voice there? I liked it. Did I? Yeah. Flip to switch. Yeah, everyone's playing a little 15 to 20% harder. That was good.

You slipped it. It was like play off mode just went in your brain. Yeah, now it's, I would definitely be concerned. I mean, they're turning the ball over. You don't want that. You don't want to play bad football in December. Would you be concerned or would you say seasons over? I wouldn't say seasons over.

That's smart. Yeah, but losing a must win. Well, we'll see how they could still be what 14 or what are they? They're four losses. Four, then 13 and four. 13 and four. I mean, they very, very, very easily could be 13 and four. Speaking of turnovers, how much did it suck when you turn the

ball over going back to the side? Oh my God. It was like, what would, would you be like putting your head down, hoping that no one says anything knowing that someone's going to come ream you out? If you fumbled when I was on the Patriots, you were, they had a term. You're in the doghouse. Yeah, we love doghouse. Yeah, my my receiver coach Chateau Cheh, he would always say, yeah, you're in the you know, I remember I fumbled on a point return against the Giants and like 11 or something and he goes, yeah, you're in the doghouse with a big guy. I'm sitting there and I'm like, oh fuck, he's like, yeah, you'd better stack some good practices. Yeah, quite a doghouse.

So a couple of good practice goal, you know what I'm like, you know, I go check in with O'Shea and like, yeah, almost still in the doghouse, you got a pot coming out, but you're still in there. He's gonna say that shit. So the receivers coach would be like almost almost the good cop, like listen, we're trying, I'm trying everything with the big guy, but what's the other thing I can do you're in the doghouse?

Well, you know, a good position coach is a guy that he's kind of like a psychologist. Yeah. You know, they have to be able to read the room and get the points that the head coach is drilling into him to, you know, a group of eight guys, you know, so and every guy is different. So he has to put that psychologist cap on and you got to play and pull certain strings with certain guys, you know, and I was that kind of I like to tough love and I was terrified of Bill and he knew that and so he would play that game with me You know or he would say it's other receivers like yo you motherfuckers a big guy

You guys need to start doing some shit or you know, we're gonna I remember he used to say Or you're gonna get that that call window or aisle Mm-hmm, you know, give me a playbook. So that's what you responded to was like the fear of getting cut. When I was, yeah, when I was younger and then when it changes, everyone has a different stress in the in the locker room. Okay, you know, when I was a, you know, special team guy and a guy trying to make a role and learn the position, I had to make myself, you know, versatile and I had to make, I had to be good at a lot of little things. I wasn't great at one thing yet. You know, so, you know, by the time you get to, you know, I establish a role, then you

have a different kind of stress where you don't want to, you know, you don't want to let your team down. You know, you see another guy working his ass off right next to you blocking. You see the quarterback making the right read, getting the right play call in. Everyone's doing their job. You didn't want to be the guy that didn't do his job. And so you feel disappointed. So like anytime you came off the field after,

you know, you're fumbled or you had a drop or something, you know, it hurts you, you know, you get sad. Yeah. You made the, you let the boys down. What's, who's the AFC team? I like, I figured out. Baltimore. I like Baltimore because the only down. What's, uh, who's the AFC team? I like to figure it out. Baltimore. I like Baltimore because the only reason I like that,

I like them. Their defense is, you know, their defense is fast, sideline to sideline. They always seem to get better and better each year. Doesn't matter what Raven's team. In December, their defense is always getting dialed up. On offense, Zay flowers, I think he's a really good little football player man. He's had some really good production.

Isaiah likely, I liked him two years ago in the preseason. And I'm a huge Mark Andrews fan. I think that dude's a man child. And that was a thing that concerned me with them. But Lamar Jackson's playing playing when he plays in control and decisive and doesn't take the crazy risks, you know, he's unstoppable and he gives the best matchup against any, any, any NFC team, you know, if you think about that's what I think who could challenge the 49ers?

Yeah. Because when you have an X-FAC, like Lamar Jackson is just a game plan killer. Right. He can go take a game over, you know, and especially if he's, you know, Odell, when the lights are bright, you know, Odell's gonna come out and he's gonna start ballin' and he already started to see it churn with him.

He's gettin' better and better. I mean, he's comin' off a knee. He's an older guy, so I expect him to get better. I think they're a scary football team, especially in an on special teams with John Harball. Like they got all, they take importance in all three phases of their game. Yeah. And that's scary, you know, because you can win a game

on special teams just like they did two weeks ago on the, you know, the punt return. Yeah. You know, I mean, that'll win you games. And when you have that, I mean, I think it's scary and they're playing, they're playing consistent football right now. It is crazy.

Special teams, you like ignore it. And then it always feels like playoffs. That's one of shows up. Like teams that have spotty special teams, even if it's like, you know, they're net punt yards or just like where they're letting teams start from. Yeah. And then all of a sudden you get to January, like,

oh, that's actually really important. Varium. I mean, if you look at like all the Super Bowl winners, you can see their top categories. You'll notice that special teams, they're always in the top eight. That's a big part of the game. I know it's getting dwindled out

with a lot of the rule making right now, but I remember in my career, we would win like two games a year on special teams. Yeah. You know, whether when we came here to Chicago and CP, fucking took one, we couldn't get anything established. It was a grind game. They had a pretty good defense.

We weren't getting anything going on offense. You know, and we busted that, our defense played well. And, you know, and we won the game because of that. That can win you games. What about your old nemesis, Joe Flacco and the Browns? I know. I like watching Joe. Are you at the point? I do. We came in the same year. He wasn't an old nemesis, but I'm excited for him and how he's doing. Cause it didn't look great when he was in New York. And I talked to Chad, he's over there, Chad O'Shea,

with the Browns. And they're saying, as he said, I mean, he can still throw it. He gives him opportunity. And it's really, it's really interesting. That team reminds you of the Baltimore team that he won a Super Bowl on. Yeah. All Flock was gotta do is really take care of the ball.

Hit a couple of those deep balls, which he loves throwing. He's had some mistakes, but you expect that for a guy who just came off the couch, and he's played some really good football, even with those mistakes. Well, if you can do what he did when he won a Super Bowl and not have any

interceptions at all in the playoffs, they, I could see Cleveland winning a Super Bowl. If he doesn't throw a single interception, well, I think it's going to be a tough road. It'll be a tough road. But you know, they're going to be a, there'll be a strong team. Yeah. It has, uh, has there been, we asked Cronk this? Has Brady texted you at all being like, I'm thinking about coming back? No. He would text you, like, I'm thinking about coming back? No. He would text you, right?

I don't think so. You don't think so? I'm too far out of it. I'm too far out of it. You're in the media too much. You're too far out? I think I'm out now. Damn, has anyone gotten mad at you for a take you've had

in the media that you used to play with or? That Jones got mad at me. Oh really? What do you say? Yeah, I don't know, he text me. He was like, what the fuck dude? He text me like, what's up? How are you bro?

Oh! That's perfect. And you knew you said something. It was literally like right after the thing I said it. I was like, I'm good man. I'm taking my daughter to school right now. How are you? Oh, you used the daughter shield.

Oh, yeah. Father of shield. Oh, yeah. Father of a... Humanize yourself. Yeah, I put some in on the plate from my family right now. Yeah, how are you doing? Got a good take off. Actually, I know I'm great. Man, weather's great.

Not lay right now. He just came off a crazy low note. That was a couple of years ago, but... No, I haven't... Brady will... He calls me a little media, media, darling now or something. Oh, I haven't you know Brady will call he calls me a little media media darling now or something I like that Grant also said that occasionally Brady would text him with just highlights of the two of them plan to see you ever do that like

Hey, remember how awesome this was He hasn't texted me highlights, but he'll he'll text like Certain plays that we had if you saw a game, you know, because now that you're retired We've never watched the games on TV. Yeah. He does the this could be us, but you playing. Yeah, like remember that. Yeah, remember when we used to do that together. It's more of a remember that. Yeah, then not a this could be us. So how's everything going? You are a media darling. Games, names back. Who's the dream guest on that? Uh, we already had you two, so I'll check those dreams off.

Good pandering, I like that. Wait, is this the first time you've been on since you weren't on the Mount Rushmore? Was you not on the Mount Rushmore? I don't know. No, we voted for them. Yes, we voted for you. Yeah, we voted for you.

Hank did it. I was hurtful. Yeah, fucking Hank. But who's the dream guest? It's an awesome podcast. Like it's,'s jeez I would love to get Jordan on or Bill Oh, you know, I think Bill was fun. I knew and Bill in like a big game I think Bill would be I would just love to see him because I know the fucking smile He gives when he does certain like I would love this I've never done the an

Impression in front of him. Yeah. So I would I would start it like, hey, Bill, are you doing? I want to see how you're actually probably like, all right. Shit, I don't think you would want to do like the 28 to 3 game. Or do you think that Bill would want to dive like way back to some like week seven Cleveland Browns game where he remembers like the cool shit that he might go back to like a Baltimore Colt game when he was a special team coordinator. Like that did if it's the further in the weeds he loves. Yeah, or the what was the game where he uh he like made time disappear was that against the

jets. Yeah. He was on the sidelines. He was able to back to him. But without that was a different one. There were two times. So yeah, we did it first and then Vrable did the same thing to us in the playoffs. Yeah, but the first time you did it, I think was against the Jets.

It was. And the penalty. And they, yeah, you guys took two consecutive penalties and they showed Bill on the sidelines and he just had this shit eating grin that was just like going across his face and I think Adam Gase was your coach who was just like trapped in a vortex

like what the fuck is happening to me right now? That was awesome. That was, no, I don't know if he would do that. He loves the Giants games. He would love talking about a Giants game. Yeah. Or an old, I don't know. I would say whatever game he would want.

Where do you think you rank in Bill Bell Checks favorites? Who, and is there a clear favorite? Oh, yeah, LT LT's number one. Love LT. Yeah. He loved defensive guys. Yeah. Like we used to call Devon Devon Bellachack. Yeah. He loved Mayo. He was like a little bit like, like, mid-Jerad Bella check. Love defensive guys. I don't know. I don't know. Because he should, you should. He's got a good poker face, bro. You should, a lot of people don't know

what he's really thinking. If you ever got him on games, the names you should ask him, like, give me your top 10. Because I feel like you should be on there, just like your story. Scrappy, you're the perfect bell check patriot of guy that no one wanted to draft, switching positions,

utility, then becomes an incredible wide receiver. I think he respects my game. I think he respects me, which is ultimate, because he's seen a lot of players. I don't know exactly what he said, but he released seen a lot of players, you know, and, you know, I, I don't know, I don't know exactly what he said, but he released a statement when I retired, which, you know, that shit brought tears to me, you know. Yeah.

You know, coach was like, dad. Yeah. Dad's saying, I love you. Yeah. It was like the first time he said, I love you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's the first time he worked

at a hard my entire career just to you that. Yeah. Made it all worthwhile. I mean, that's how it felt anytime he gave you a compliment. Yeah, speaking of, how's Frank doing? Frank's a man. Frank is still working the auto body shop. I don't know, I'm not even prepared, but yeah.

Yeah, he's still just grinding every day. He's grinding. He's all worked up about this bill shit too. Oh, really? Yeah, he call it, does he call into Tom Kran? He does? Him and Tom talk. And so he's like, what the fuck's going on?

Yeah, and my dad still watches like, we have, so we still direct TV at my parents out. And so he has all the Boston channels and he still watches like the Boston media stuff. Just to see if they see your name. No, just to see like like he still loves the team. He loves Bella check. Yeah. He loves Brady.

You know, you know, he, you know, he, so he's, he's been all worked up over this whole thing. Like I, they can't fucking do this. How, have you tried to get him to take some time off? Like dad, you've, yeah, bro. Like, so I had, I had my parents down for Thanksgiving and I was like pop can you can you come you know Tuesday or you know now I gotta I gotta come Wednesday I gotta close a shop up you know we're getting out of the ear man and getting out of the ear it's tough you

know so he's got to close all books he. He eat, we'll get him on a vacation here soon, hopefully. Yeah, yeah, where would you want to go on a vacation? I think he said he wanted, he's never been out of the, he's never been to Europe. Okay, all right. He wants to go to Greece. Okay. Yeah, he wants to see like, he wants to see the island stuff,

but he also wants to see like the old history, you know, thathens and shit. Yeah, I think. Part of the non. Yeah, I don't know. He had him therehens and shit. Like, I think. I think. Yeah, I don't know. He had him there. I got to. Yeah.

I think it family trip. There was a big story in the news this week made some waves. It was. Charred men in. Oh, Richard men in hall. Yeah. Doing the hypothetical all black first all white pro bowl.

I drafted you on to the all white team as a defensive back because our ranks are so thin right now that I feel like who's the receivers receivers Cooper up and Thielin yeah, and maybe Braxton we got stack tight ends You got a lot of healing over me. Well, no, I mean, it's current But our ranks were so thin at DB that I was like I think we have to call up Julian Edelman and see if you can come back to what? We'd be struggling. Could you guard Tyree Kill?

Absolutely not. How many yards, if you were, if you were matched up against them for four quarters, let's say it was a close game. How many yards do you think he put on you? He put a lot, but I tell you right now, I'd hold him ever got down play. I'd hold him at five yards. And I'm holding. That's what I would do to Walker when I cover him in practice.

You get so fucking mad. Just hold him. Just hold him. Make it so bad that they can't throw it to him. I actually think the defense back might be the hardest position to play on them. Yeah, you're doing everything backwards. Yeah.

You're doing everything in a back pedal. Every rule change has been put into place. Every advantage is on the offense. Yeah, you're doing everything backwards. Yeah. You're doing everything in a back pedal. Every rule changes, but been put into place. Every advantage is on the offense. They know where they're going. What's your take on this whole, the kid who got suspended. What's wrong for the hit? Oh, the Colts. I think it's bullshit.

It looked indefinitely on that play. It looked like anything slow motion looks bad. Yeah, there's not a lot we see with hockey. I think more than we talk about with football where you slow down the replay and you like look how malicious this hit was. It was the shoulder to the head. And if things are happening at like warp speed in real time, you can't adjust your body that quickly.

In that case, he was diving forward almost into the past. Right. The defensive back was going to the defensive back nose knows you're not allowed to hit a guy high. So you're, you're target as a defensive player is going to be right around that midsection area. And that's where his head was going towards. I think it's just way easier to say with the benefit of slow mo like that's a dirty play.

And it's also like we, we, for some reason, offense and you know, there are times when it's clear that the defensive player is targeting but offense of players don't get any criticism in terms of like that was a reckless play on his side too you know it was like both sides it was an unfortunate hit but I just think indefinite I think it should have been a penalty in the moment but suspending is crazy is he have a record record? I he must. He might. Is he have some priors? Yeah, he got the guy from Denver definitely does. And so that's like that's such a bang bang play where it's that's two guys are in the air

going for the same spot. I mean, the quarterback makes a better throw. We don't have it right. Right. Right. Right. Right. When that goes in the whole, well, Brady was saying, you know, like if you were like rewarding offense for lack of execution of right, right.

Or it's like even like you'll see a running back lower their head into a defendants. That never gets called. They're you have a helmet. It's they've been doing it more lately. I mean, you can clearly see these point of emphasis is going on right now. Yeah. Like lining up. Outside. So did you ever get called for lining up?

Did you light up offside? In Pittsburgh. So I was in the slot a lot. And I like to hug that line. So I can get into my route quicker. And so I would always go and I would look at my guy and I'm telling him I'm back. And I did it on film.

And you know, sometimes you get lazy. And you just, you do it without making eye contact with them Most of our call me and I was clearly I mean I was close to the the line of scrimmage But I wasn't on it and I on film I gave them I'm off You know, so I I have been called for something like that But it goes into like the most fundamental thing that you practice in every walk through every fucking practice play every seven on seven. Right. Look over to the imaginary ref and you make eye contact with them.

That's like what we were taught. You know what I mean? So I think that's sloppy. Yeah. That was the, the, the mohomes rant about the refs. I don't get mad at my homes either. Well, no, it was, it was, that's right after the game. Right after the game.

And I also like watched it being like what he's really mad about here is that they're not executing like they're not making the little things that you have to do to win football games. You know it it it's like when you make when you make hardwood floors I heard this I heard Bella check say this to us once okay he goes you know like it's like making floors you know like you got to go and you got a hammer down each nail and you check, you double check all those nails because you may miss one and you may not see it, but three months down the road and you stub your fucking toe on it, you'll realize you should have checked it. You know, it's like that, you know, just getting so happy execution.

These little things that you're not doing getting to execute these little things that you're not doing in practice, these little things that are coming up, you know, that's probably because they have impracticent. Right. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's true. Every house you're sneaking out of, make sure that there's not a ring doorbell camera on my catch a shirtless.

Yeah. You know, that he looked good. He looked good. I really wish he had ripped a fart though. You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna ask him about it the fruit. Yeah, I'm gonna go up there and I'm gonna say Hey coach You know that deep breath that you took to gather yourself

That's what I used to do every time I had to step in your office I thought he looked good in the video. Yeah, I thought he looked strong and powerful. Yeah, he's, you know, Moses got him going right. That's the strength coach over there. He's still on the bar. Speaking of which, there's some people talking, haven't seen a lot of shirtless picks of you recently.

Yeah. Are you getting soft? I'm not soft. I'm still cut. Prove it. I'm not soft. I'm still cut. Proof it. I'm not doing it right now. Exactly. Proof it.

I got something. Proof it. Grox said he didn't have it like that anymore. We're going to do a football drill like that father's day. We'll stand in front of you or stand behind you. Class of father's day shirtless, you know, up sweating still from the goddamn shoot, shoot thing I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Listen, I just people are saying like, hey, where's the thirst traps? Barriose is taking over your crown. You know, I got a kit now. It's tougher when you're a rounder more. You know, when I was playing, I only have it for a week at a time. So then, you know, like when you have her in your schedule, all time, I can't just be. Can't be just thirsty.

Yeah. Can't be working out as much. That's what I heard. I heard that you weren't really going to the gym. Yeah. No, I got bought. I heard you've gotten soft. No.

You sure? Yes. Okay, cause like that can happen to any podcast. They're calling you Julian Fettelman because you were eating so much. Fettelman? Yeah. I do like to eat though. Yeah, we can tell.

We can tell all you with the Al's beef. Yeah, hell yes. Pretty good. Yeah, I just don't want to see you get soft because like I said, like podcast thing can get you soft. Can it? Oh, a little punch. Like we're, we basically are the, you know, like the evolution chart, man walking

upright. Podcasters go in reverse. We just eventually you're gonna just be on all fours. That's true. We should do it. We should share this all day. Yeah, that would be great. Well, I did do one. Remember when I threw out my back?

That's true. You guys came over and I was laying down for it. Evolution of man upright, upright, upright, and then the one at the end is just a guy like with a microphone. Like, yeah, just being like like women should have more sex with men. Yeah. No, the op it fell. Stop having sex with women, meet them, earn it. Yeah. Why are you as a man having sex with a woman? The gays thing you can do

is have sex with the girlfriend. Would you agree? I don't know. Let's podcast clips that come out every now and then are just like what is this what is happening? Yeah Why are you as a man to facing yourself and acting feminine along with a woman in order to get a female's approval? You're disrespecting yourself. I don't see that content really? I'm algorithmine. You've got a good content. Yeah, good algorithm. You see any deaths. I see deaths every day on Twitter No, I see I see a lot of like fights. Yeah, I always get trapped in like I get sad when I see a bad fight. I know it's like oh no

The situation watch out. It's coming not even that though like what if you're that guy and you're fighting someone He hits you then like it flips a switch where you can't stop and you have to beat him up. Yeah, you know, do you still have that switch? switch where you can't stop and you have to beat them up. Yeah. You know, do you still have that switch? Do you still have that dog? Once you, you know, when you're born with it, don't go away, boys. You sure?

How do you, how do you release the dog? I've got to have an outlet. I'll be box. Rough and Routy? Not like that, no. No, but would you? No, abs. You would be interested.

You're verse, welker. You're verse, max. No. Rough and Routy. I don't need any hits to the head. I just, you like to train it i go to church on the saint of monica It's a pretty dope spot okay just roughin roudy max says the one thing about max he says that he could beat you know Fuck out of you Is he a boxer no he's just a big dude

No he's got big meaty clankers too no it would be bad news for me it would be very bad I would be gas within the 10 seconds. Yeah, you'd be fucked. All right, you got to get in and out. Yeah, so Superl Peck Is it Ravens Niners? I think it's Raven Niners. Are you going to Superl a week? You got a man out. Yeah, we got it. We're doing games with names there at the win Who you guys got on? I don't know who do we have have I think maybe Mark Walberg. Oh, that would be good. You doing nine and 11 There's one thing you could change about this day mark. What would it be? I would have been there games with names Mark Mark Walberg on the plate. I would have been on that flight. He had that quote. What do you say? He said things would have been different If he was on it. Yeah, they're taking care of it I would have been on that flight. He had that quote. What do you say? He said things would have been different. If he was on it. Yeah. They're taking care of it. Things would have been different. Um, when you guys ever play that situation, what would you have done? I don't know. I don't

want to say. Yeah, I think I just try to trip someone running down the aisle and then that doesn't work. It's like, well, I tried. I think I probably just cry. Yeah. Yeah. Probably a lot of tears. Now, what do you think about the Sean McDermott thing? Where? Oh, yeah. Apparently in the preseason he motivates guys. Yeah, I heard about it. Cause like football coaches talk about just crazy shit

all the time in locker room to get guys motivated. What's the craziest thing that a coach has ever tried to use as like a motivational tool for you? Nothing along that line. I probably would, I don't know. They always use sometimes they don't like nothing like that. We used to get these tip sheets on, you know, Saturdays from Chad, O'Shea, where it have the play call, the call sheet of all other plays. We'd have like, you know, all our run, run game block assignments, like printouts of how it looks on film.

You know what I mean? It's just so you can go over it and study before. And on like the last page, you'd have like some kind of sane or some old like history knowledge of the team we were playing or, you know, Braveheart quote or something. Nothing crazy.

But yeah, but it's like, I don't remember anything. I mean, it's happened where you're like, where's he going here with? Yeah, the McDermott story was like, that's bad. But also football guys, they kind of take it too far sometimes. Yeah, but usually football guys are pro-military. Yeah, I make that like, why don't we talk about the Navy SEALs

that took out Osama? Yeah, sure. But couldn't we do that? We had just done zero dark 30. It was zero dark. It would have been perfect. Zero dark 30. That's so true.

Those guys were bad asses. Yeah. He just got lost. He got lost a little bit. He tried, I guess. He tried. Yeah. You've ever said he tried.

He just scraped the last way to piss though. Yeah. I mean, like, what the fuck is he talking about? Yeah, wait, hold on a second. Those are the bad guys. Yeah. And I'm sure that is definitely a story where I, I mean, it's clearly out one of the players.

Someone said it, but that's when, you know, you go to the locker room after team meeting, you're like, what the fuck was he talking about? Things are bad. Yeah. It's coach okay. You just, you just did Mark Wahlberg for that, for that high pup speech. You were like, if I were there, I would have spoken up. Yeah.

I would, that would have ended differently. No, I, I said I would have probably, in the locker room, would have been talking to like McCordy or Nikovic, like, what the fuck was he talking about there? Was it Will Compton that told us about a coach that he had that was like, talk about, like, being in the military, he's served in Afghanistan or Iraq and he was like you got a shoot whatever's in front of you over there Safety's off safety's off if it's a child if it's a woman Man dog dog doesn't matter. You got to kill it and that was that was a pump up speech and will come to say wait what child Yeah, we're killing dogs

Yeah, we're killing dogs. It's off. It's off. Yeah, some, you could definitely go over the line. Yeah. All right, I got one last question. Robac question, rhobac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Qsips, polo's hoodies, joggers, shorts, everythingrobac.com. The most important question.

How do we talk about Brock Pertie? Is he the MVP? I mean, right now, he probably is. How do we talk about Brock Purti? Is he the MVP? I mean, right now, he probably is. I mean, the MVP is always a quarterback. Right. Offensive player of the year is always someone else. But it's very interesting, his Brock Purti, it feels like there's a lot of people online who, like,

I don't want to say nerds, but maybe nerds who are like, oh, it's just a system and all this stuff. And then you see a lot of guys who played the game who are like, no, he's bawling. Like the way he's throwing with anticipation, like this isn't, yes, of course, if you put pattern homes on the Niners, he would look great. But like, you have to give credit to what Brock pertero you have to, you know, this whole game manager thing, people don't realize it's more like a game operator.

You know, being able to go in and communicate personnel group, play call, check out play, give like, you know, being on the same page with each guy in the huddle, being able to do that and execute at the level he's doing is very impressive. Yeah. I mean, he's got too many situational throws where he's throwing a third and eight, third and 13, an in cut, anticipation. There's too many of those throws to say he's not good.

We've seen this system with Jimmy. We've seen this system with Tray Lance. It looked nothing like it, the same players. So, you gotta start talking and putting some respect behind his name, because he's playing good football. He looks like he's always in control. He doesn't ever look flustered. I'm really impressed of how he's playing.

And I hope to see him continue to succeed. It's a great story. And he's continuing making this, a bigger and bigger narrative on it. And the more we talk about it, it's the better he is doing. It's not unlike the start of Tom Brady's career. That's all I'm gonna say.

Not saying he is Tom Brady, but if we're to flash back in time. Probably more productive. Yeah, if we're to flash back in time, that's not possible. Yeah, that's not possible. Yeah, that's not possible. Yeah. And we look at what we were saying about Tom Brady then and how he was playing compared

to Brock Purti right now. Yeah, late draft pick, late draft pick comes in, no expectation. Got a great defense. He's relying on that right off the bat. It's the start. I don't know what the finish is going to be, but it's the start. He's having a phenomenal start to his career and you hope you know, you hope he stays healthy and you hope that he continues to keep the mindset that he has right now because

he's a, I've met him. We even did an event in the Super Bowl last year and he's, you could just tell he's got a good head on in his shoulders and you have to when you're the face of a team. Okay, I love Christian McCaffrey's a dog. Everyone on that team is a dog, but the face of that team is a quarterback. Yeah. Okay. You know, we saw what it was when they didn't have the quarterback position going, and you see what it is when they have Brock Purdy playing. So, you know, that's the league we play in. And he's ballin' out. And, you know, I'm excited to see

what he does in these playoffs. Yeah, this is a trick question. The answer was Trent Williams actually. Trent Williams should be a monster. Monster. Wouldn't that be just cool if they gave the MVP to an offensive lineman when you're, yeah, I would. What'd you have to do as an offensive lineman?

I don't know. I have pancakes. You'd probably have to catch as an offensive lineman? I don't know. I have pancakes. You'd probably have to catch a couple touchdown passes, like maybe three or four. The tackle eligible? Yeah. Yeah, I don't, you know, I don't, it's too vain of a world.

The year that JJ Watt, I agree, it's a society. The year that JJ Watt had like all those, like he had touchdowns and you know like a pick six and 20 sacks that was like the last time is like oh someone not named the quarterback could probably didn't LT get MVP I think he did yeah, he was pretty well wide receivers never won MVP never never I mean Tyree kills right if he gets I mean he's having a hell of I mean, he's having a hell of a year. AJ Brown's having a hell of a year. Last non quarterback, I think was Adrian Peterson in 2012, I want to say.

Yeah, I think, but it's, yeah, I don't, it's, it'd be cool to see the running backs. Get it though. If they gave it to Christian, just because of the hold, you know, before the season stuff that was going on, that'd be cool. Yeah, I'm looking right. But it also could be one of those things where the league gives it to the running back, just, just to kind of shut them up. Well, I think we might reach a point where we have Brock and Christian splitting each other's votes. Somebody that wants to vote for the best player on the 49ers. They're not all gonna focus their attention on the same guy

So those guys might get split up and then who knows what happens after that. Yeah, yeah, Mars having a goddamn good year too Yeah, the 90s had a lot more running backs. Yeah. Lawrence Taylor, 1986 MVP. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Terrell Davis, Marshall Falk, Emmett Smith, Barry. Marshall Falk was really good. Yeah. I love watching him play. And then yet hasn't been since Adrian Peterson. There was Sean Alexander and in the Indian Tomlinsonydany and Tomlinson in 2006 that year was so. Alexander got paid after that and he was on the cover of Madden. Yeah. He didn't play the, he didn't,

Lydany and Tomlinson, I had him on my fantasy team in 2006. That was the last time I was good at fantasy. It was awesome. And he would just, he would literally score every 25 touchdowns. And he would throw him to, it was just every week. It's just be like, oh, that's 40 points. That'll be interesting in San Diego. Yeah, LA Harbaugh maybe I want to make Chicago. I feel like Harbaugh. That might be Well, a check where would you where would you prefer to see

Belichick I would love them on the chargers. Yeah, cuz you could go to practice. I'll go to practice. Uh huh. Yeah, would you ever coach? Hell no. Really? Dude, I put, when I was playing, you go in, you put 13 hours in, and you're leaving work, and it's dark, and you're watching the coaches see their family in the parking lot for fucking 45 minutes before they have to go to a fucking night meeting. Hell no. Yeah. You know, it's those guys love football.

Yeah. I got soft. How many how many minutes of PMTD Tom Brady's heard through you? The social clips count. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, sure. Probably like 15. Okay, that works. That works. That's fine. Probably 15. Yeah. I mean, you like you That works. That's fine. Probably 15. Yeah. I mean, you like you play Griffin. These are the guys that like we know, you know, you got some other guys into it, which we appreciate.

It was huge for us. Fun. You guys are. We have fun with Paul. What is it? Now, what if Bill said like, Jules, I need you. Like, like father. I need you, I need you bad.

Jules, I need you bad. We're I need you, I need you, bad. Jules, I need you, bad. We're taking a sugar suck. They have our dog. We need to learn. I need you to be chief dog in the in the in the dog. I'll lock them. Yeah.

I need a dog transplant in the locker room. He gets Julian Edmund and he sees her Milan to go in there. Yeah. We need surgery. I don't know. He needs you, Jules. to go in there. Yeah. Yeah. We need surgery. I don't know. He needs your jewelry. We need you to put dog into every one of these guys. Coach needed me, maybe I'd go. I'm just, especially if it was that.

No, no, I'm not going to. No, if it was a top secret dog mission. No. But I told Brady, you know, if he, if, if, if, if, and when, or when he becomes the coach of the raid or the owner of the raiders or whatever a piece of it, I told me you could pay me, you know, a couple million bucks and I'd work out the talent in L.A. Three days, you know, three, four or five times a year.

It's a good gig, you know. Yeah. And, cause you caught some out for us? I don't know. Let me, let me get mine. Maybe we just interview like potential guys. We'll do the dog testing. The dog test is just a look in the eye.

Okay. Do we have it? I can't see your eyes. So maybe don't, don't, don't, don't take them off. You're afraid Nice some dog You got puppy, okay, that's fine. We're the puppies grow into dogs. Yeah I got dog how could you teach us how to run routes and like have us look like no, we're don't need it's not teachable It's fine. It's I take part in my blocking. I'm over blocking. You know, it's like speed

Yeah, teach it. I got some great slow twitch muscles. Yeah, I take part in my blocking, I'm over blocking my, you know, it's like speed. Yeah, teach it. I got some great slow twitch muscles. Yeah, I do. How does that work? It's just whenever you teach me, I would just do it slower than you ever expected. Which is almost as effective as being so fast. You know what, yeah.

Smooth though, cause I was watching you out there. Smooth, and that's what, I remember when I was doing, I was young, and I had a coach, he goes, you know, I would try to go through the bag, it's too fast, like clipped a couple of things or something. He was slowly smooth and smooth as fast. Yeah.

That's that Mr. Miyagi? No, I was just what I would say that you look like when you're, yeah, I don't have any wiggle. Wiggle is so important. No, you had so much wiggle. A lot of wiggle. I love, I love being able to decide for that when you see like a slot, a white slot receiver, he has no wiggle and you're like,

nah, he can't make it. He doesn't have the wiggle. Yeah, you gotta have wiggle. You gotta have the wiggle. Oh, my favorite route they used to run would be when you go, you do like a half fake to the inside. Actually, I think you just set up like half step fake to the outside, two step fake to the inside

and then go back out to the outside along that same line. Did you ever think about doing like adding one more fake in there and doing like three fakes and then coming back to the inside? You try it in practice. But I know exactly what you're talking about. Welker used to do that a lot. You're playing with people's like leverages and you try to, you know, you get an outside technique.

You know, sometimes I'd bring it out and go in because they're thinking in cut if you give a jab release and you go out in, go up and then slap them out and get out. You're trying to gain leverage. So you're doing anything you can to gain that leverage. So you know, it's tough because if you don't get them, you're stuck and you're not getting the ball. But once you know, you get the feel of it, that's when you see a really good route runner and you see West Wilker was really good at getting guys to flip their hips in such a short span of time in the slot.

So you try to mess with those stems. Get wiggle. Last last question, who's the best route runner in the game? Right now? Yeah. Best route runner in the game. It's tough question. It is. Cooper Cop. Cooper is very good. When I went interview him I was watching all this. You watch the game but when you watch all

of this film, you know, he can run a lot of routes. You know, the was watching all this, you know, you watch the game, but when you watch all of this film, you know, he can run a lot of routes. You know, the guys that run more like the bigger route trees, not a guy that could just run and go or come back. The guys that can run go come, come back and cut, you know, out, slant, fast. The bigger your tree is, the better you are. So, I mean, Jamar Chase has really good routes. Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson has.

He's like, Justin Jefferson's so big. He's has really good routes. Yeah, and I feel like those guys are so skilled, they don't get the credit for being route runners. Cause usually when you're like, oh, he's a great route runner. It's like, oh, well, maybe he doesn't have everything else. No, that's not.

But those, like, Justin Jefferson, he changes direction without ever breaking speed or stride or like any you know like You get all the tops of routes when you see how they they cut out of the top of a route and when they come flat to downhill and stuff like what guys That you know the breaking in cut and a drift up field like that's a terrible route. That's why you get undercut pics You know you got to eat you're basically coming flat to downhill. When you, you know, you see that in, in a route runner, like then you know that he knows. Yeah. So there's a lot, I mean, route running is, it's at an all, it's, it's very good right now. Yeah.

Just because there's so much film. Yeah. Guys are learning quicker at a younger age. They're practicing like their releases and they're putting these tools on their belt at such a younger age. Like I didn't really, I did releases instinctively. They have like five different releases

and you know, know how to use them, you know? And so there's a lot of good stuff right now. Yeah, well, Jules, you're the best. You guys are welcome back anytime. I was telling Sam we have open podcast studio. So you ever need to do a games names in Chicago. I need to have you come back. Maybe I get Jordan. Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah. I'd say that would be a good podcast. Yeah. Yeah. That would get so cocked. I would be so mad. Jordan came into our office. I'd do anothered. I would be so mad Jordan came into our office. I did another podcast. I'd be furious I would be happy for you as a friend. I wouldn't that slash your tires right here. I'd slash your tires while you

Do it in the studio actually I know a sad I think you could do it in the studio But you would just have to release the podcast on the part of my take-feed deal Let me get back to you But yes, you got to come back because we love having you around. We've missed you. Been too long. It has. You know what?

We got to see each other when I lived in New York. I know. I know. But now you're not in New York either. I know, but you're not either. We gotta make a trip to LA. Yeah, you guys. We've been talking about it.

Have you? Yeah, we've done it a couple of times. We've been talking maybe like sometime after March Madness to like a week in LA, bank, a bunch of interviews. Yeah, so maybe we'll do that Definitely around take our shirts off run some rounds. I mean standard. Yeah, 75 in sunny right now Standard is the standard. Yeah, but that earthquakes coming It always is it always taxes. So I can say yeah, none of those in Chicago. Yeah, I was in Chicago tax

No, stay didn't come tax not the same as California I still say didn't come down just fuck California It's like eight percent fuck out of you. I forget what five. Yeah, California's what like 13 eight. Yeah 13 eight mm-hmm. Yeah, you got to wear a mask still fuck that I mean, it's it is weird out there All right, thank you jewels. I guess I mean, it is weird out there. All right, thank you, Jules. I guess. Jules was brought to you by Chevy.

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I don't know if it's a fire fest yet or not. Mystery fire fest. Oh, we're gonna decide? No, it's, it's, it's to be determined. Um, we had the, the event last night of River North, the talent show, and then we went out afterwards, Shane, me, Max, Evan, bunch of the guys, played some pool, had some course lights, had a good time.

Mm-hmm. Got a little wasted, uh, and then bunch of the guys, played some pool, had some course lights, had a good time. Got a little wasted, and then I went home and packed. Oh, I don't know. You don't know what's in your bag? You gotta open it live on the shelf. You gotta keep that briefcase shut. Yeah, did you pack like a James Winston type thing? No, I mean, it's packed, but I,

Where are you going, San Diego? I'm going to Massachusetts, New Orleans. Yeah, so you got to double climb it pack. Oh, yeah, so you that's a double climate pack Yeah, wow you should wait until you get home and do like an unboxing of your own clothes that you packed Yeah, so I don't I I I don't know I really don't know you're doing new years in New Orleans. I'm going. I'm coming back New Year's Eve night Got it. We have to work that would be New Year's Eve Yeah

New Year's Eve. Yeah, well like day night. I don't be new year's Eve. Yeah. New year's Eve. Yeah. Well, like day. Night. I don't know. Oh, yeah. It's new year's Eve. I'll be here. New year's Eve. I will be in New Orleans. I'm excited. Billy strings concert. Friends golf. Hell yeah. Sounds great. I've never I've been to New Orleans for work. I never really spend for. Wow. Well, we had a lot of fun when it went to New Orleans. True, the four. That was not only that, but the other. Five or four coach, K. No, not even that one. Yes. The fucking national championship was all for that.

The national championship. That was literally like two interviews. Partying, yeah. That was the best night ever. And one of those interviews we were blind drunk. Actually, two of them, we were blind drunk in them. We've had a lot of fun in New Orleans. Also, when you talk about like going to New Orleans for work, when we went there for the final four,

our job was to just go watch basketball games and then come back and be like, you know, that game was awesome. Any chicken figures? Yeah, that was it. Grinding. Grinding, yeah. Senior vice president.

Yeah. Are you? Yeah, I did. I did do. It's part of his bit last of form. Last night, the PFT kind of spoiled it we don't my routine should be legal i never can do that uh... you can ever burn their material i didn't i just i tweeted out the just a very

first part of it i sent hank and then i can't so he can watch the back yeah but then i i the only part of the tweet out was was hanks saying pft commenters here give it up for pft commenter he donates three million dollars a charity that's the part that I tweeted out. Oh, that's a good joke. Yeah, it's a great joke.

I loved it. Yeah, very good. What's the funny part about that? I'm not going to get into it because I know I'm trying to save it. I don't have a lot of material. I didn't tweet out the punchline and your reason for saying that. I tweeted too. I apologize.

No, at the years, years was appropriate, Jake. I cut it off after my name is Henry Lockwood. Yeah. And I'm going to be doing this. No, I just didn't. I didn't realize I had to pass out those little like cases for your phone. Yeah. Yeah, we gotta do that.

But I did six minutes, it was kind of a train wreck, so it's gonna be a long train to marry. I thought it was awesome. Thank you, Jake. Well, that's not good. Unless you beat me. That's, Jake saying it's awesome, it's not good. I am a big procrastinator, I can't even consider,

we'll see after this weekend I guess, but I can't consider beating you because I just won't work on anything. So I have to just pretend like it's over. That's smart, yeah, it is smart. That's really smart. Okay, PFT. My fire's fast the week.

I'm shaving my mustache. Shaving it before it, because my mom's just gonna look at it. It's like a diode. It's so good. My mom's just gonna be like, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing, PFT? I raised you better than this.

No man. No commenters. No commenters are finally coming in. I agree, I think it looks awesome right now. I've gotten so many compliments on it. What about, go ahead Max. I wasn't gonna say anything, but I was looking. At what?

Cyber? At the cyber? Cyber? I don't burns? Cyber burns? I don't know what Max is thinking. I've had cyber burns. I've had cyber burns for 15 years. But you specifically shave them to look like cyber burns. I know I'm going to shave them to even finer of a point.

Do you know what? There's nothing worse than a new insecurity unlocked. I'm impervious to your sideburnslander. That doesn't phase me at all. But the mustache leaving is gonna be the end of an era, sadly. People call me feeble knees when we do the golf streams. It's in my head. Do you guys have those moments where you're like new,

new insecurity unlocked? I remember in college once a girl was like, your eyebrows are too big. And I was like, okay, I'd never thought of it. And now I'll think about it every day for the rest of my life. I've had a couple of those. I, there was a person that used to just like tease me for having red hair a lot.

And I was like, my hair's not red. It's new insecurity, I'm not. She was like, you're a ginger. And then for a while, I thought I was a ginger. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm trying to. Max's meaty clackers. That's not insecurity.

That's it. That's a security. Yeah, that's just that's just fact. It's ball security, baby. Yeah, yeah. So in the vanero, shaving the the mustache off sideburns will stay. As I always maybe, you know what? I'll put up to a pull. Yeah, put up to pull. I'll let the people decide. Also, my vote counting 10. Okay, deal. my other fire fest was that Megan making money ate my lunch yesterday Yeah, and I was very much looking forward to my lunch I'd been podcasting for like four and a half hours doing a long episode of macro dosing Oh, I thought it was when she crossed you up on the court. No, no she she could never put put the put the clamps on her

She I ordered a Greek lunch literally ate your lunch I ordered a Greek lunch and I was very much looking forward to it Because again, it had been sitting there for about hour and a half and I was hungry by the time we were done podcasting and I got out and The lunch was gone Megan came and found me she said PFT. I'm so sorry. I accidentally ate your lunch and you know what? I was like I guess that's okay because she also ordered a Greek lunch. Yeah. She was like, I got mixed up. I saw what you ordered. I thought it was my lunch, so I ate that. I'm very sorry.

I was like, oh, that's fine. I'll just eat your lunch then. She goes, well, I also ate my own lunch. She double dipped on lunch. Wow. I feel like in that circumstance, you offer your lunch to the person, and then if they don't take that, then you order them.

You should have made her baby bird her lunch. Well, I heard she was passing around. She was like, oh, the sandwich I got is really good. Everyone take a bite. Oh, no, so everyone ate your lunch. Everyone, I got my lunch eaten by everyone. Damn. I guess this is for the team.

Damn. That stinks. So, my terms are clear. I just need to hang out with her husband, Raoul, for a night, and then we're back even. Yeah, so I get one night with Raul, and then it's water under the bridge. For impressive.

Shout out to Mr. Mr. Bacon Money is the best. He's the best. Doesn't eat on LSU game days. I like that. Notice he said, nothing much drinking. I said, doesn't eat.

Yep. I've been around him a couple of LSU game days, and you can tell he's a guy who was not eating that day. You know, he was the absolute best at Darts Day. He was the Dark Father. Oh yeah, he's the best. Yes, Mr. Megan Money. All right, my firefaces, I lost my voice again this week.

Apologies to everyone. I feel very bad. Fuck you to the couple of people who are like, dude, no one wants to listen. It's like, yeah, I don't want to listen to myself. Socks. Sound, you sound mature. like dude, no one wants to listen. It's like, yeah, I don't want to listen to myself. Sucks. Sound, you sound mature.

I was, I went to sleep very early. Every single night the problem is our job is to talk. So like, I was actually almost all the way back on Tuesday. And then Wednesday, I have like five shows in a row. But yeah, I do actually care. I'm not trying to lose my voice. Happens once a year. Thought we were gonna get through this football season

without it, but here we are. So I apologize again. We're gonna rest up. The break comes at a perfect time. Yes, start doing throat exercises. I do, I have these drops. I've been doing everything. I've been chugging like robatossin at night.

Raw milk. Raw milk, just raw milk. Raw milk, honey, everything. I've been gargling salt water Literally everything so Apologies again Jake I wasted my time going axe throwing last week. I waited in line for 20 minutes It was three for throws for 15 dollars and I missed the thing all three times. I'm not strong enough. Yeah

Axe throwing is one of those, I've done it. It's hard. Well, it's one of those perfect schemes that looks great on Instagram. Yeah. And then you get there and you're like, okay. Three throw, I wanna know. I wanna know who decided that axe throwing

was gonna be everywhere. It seems like it just happened. It's like pickleball. It is the not all people all thinking over the world. That's what the Axe throwing people say about Axe throwing. But I feel like there's, it's probably like some big venture capital from that got together with other rich people and they're like, you know what America's going to have in every single town?

A fucking Axe throwing range. It is. It's like that's a great, it sounds like the thoughts of a group of really coked up guys. Yeah. They got together and they're like, even if I hit a bulls eye out, it would be like, okay. Yeah, no, when you look at Instagram,

people doing it on, you know, axe throwing, it looks fun. It's like, oh, all your friends together? I did it, I literally did it with all my friends once and it was just like, okay. They're all, everyone's trying to find the next bowling. Yeah, bowling can just be bowling. Bowling is the best. Bowling is the next bowler.

Yeah, bowling is the next bowler. I would like, by the way, we're running back the bowling challenge for Mount Rushmore next year. I would love to live inside this. Yes, it's great. We just, like everything reminds you of a company that you should sponsor. Yeah, yeah.

Shout out to AWL by the way, who used our bowling challenge for the fans of punishment. So smart. Awesome. Yeah. That looked like a good time. I think he did. That's one of our best punishments that we've come up with.

I think he did five for beer and 10 for hot dogs. That was definitely a fun one. So we're going to run that back next summer. Will Levis did not practice today. Yeah, I think it might be Maliquilus, which would be a bummer. Bummer. Give us Tana Hill.

If it's Will, I might be. I don't do game of the years anymore, but nuclear missile. Numbers. 40. 18. Should we do two for the holidays? 20.

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