Pardon My Take - Julian Edelman, Lakers Catfish, The Super League Is Dead And A Billy Announcement
Episode Date: April 21, 2021The Super League is dead and we basically have only ourselves to thank for its death (3:17 - 8:24). Lakers twitter had a bizarre and hilarious catfish situation (8:24 - 24:02). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (2...4:02 - 46:46). Future Hall of Famer? Julian Edelman joins the show to talk about his retirement, the Hall of Fame, his favorite memories and teammates and times he and Brady were in the zone together (46:46 - 93:41). We finish with a quick announcement about Billy Football's future and some great listener submitted FAQ's.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we have future Hall of Famer,
Julian Edelman, maybe.
He's a Hall of Famer, I don't know.
We'll talk to him.
We have a great interview with Jules.
He's doing our podcast and our podcast alone.
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We're going to talk a little Death of the Super League.
There was a Lakers Twitter cat fishing
that was ridiculous, hot seat, cool throne,
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Today is Wednesday, April 21st
and the Super League is dead.
We fucking killed that stupid son of a bitch.
Play the Coldplay song.
Okay, hold on.
Yeah, bring that up.
RIP to the Super League.
I thought we liked the Super League.
We hardly knew.
We liked the name.
Yeah, we heard that.
And hopefully, I mean, if the Premier League is smart,
they'll just rebrand as the English Super League
and then nobody can ever cut them out of that again.
But yeah, basically what it all boiled down to
was there was a group of very rich people,
a bunch of billionaires who didn't think
they should pay for their own fucking stadiums
and they tried to organize the mass exodus
and they were like, well, what's gonna happen?
There's gonna be a bunch of poor people that are upset.
What are they gonna do?
Will not buy our shit anymore?
Turns out that over in Europe, yeah.
Poor people actually do that.
They actually fight back.
So it was 18 hours.
Excuse me, 18.
18 hours.
18 hour league and I just hope Texas A&M
puts it up on the side of the stadium as their victory.
Yes, so Hank, you say Americans that created the Super League,
let me ask you this brain buster real quick.
That's just the knowledge I learned from troops on Monday.
In order to kill something so evil as a Super League,
you have to create it.
So shouldn't Americans get credit
for creating something that the world
can get behind and kill?
Good point.
Like the nuclear bomb?
We did this.
We created and killed it so we deserve all the credit.
Specifically this show in generally America, I would say.
It's actually, it was a great test.
All along it was a test.
It was an experiment and guess what?
There are 12 teams that failed.
We put together this idea of a giant league
that would suck the soul out of sports.
We didn't, Marshall Henderson did.
Marshall Henderson put it together and then we saw,
oh, surely Manchester United and Juventus
and Leeds won't join this, Leeds actually did.
They were, they passed the test by not joining.
Yeah.
But then all these big teams were like,
yeah, we're greedy, we're money hungry.
Guess what, you guys really showed your ass
because you're the bad guys.
You rich motherfuckers, we beat your ass.
Isn't this bad for our World Cup chances?
No, it's great for World Cup chances
because Pucillic and Dest and all the other great players
that we have right now, they all just happened to be on teams
that would have been in the Super League
and not been allowed to play.
So now guess what?
USA World Cup 2022.
Two.
Qatar.
2022, cut.
Another great idea.
That's, that's what.
Have a World Cup in the middle of the desert.
That's what's so funny because we were trying to figure out
with troops why FIFA was coming down on the side of the fans.
And we figured it out afterwards.
It's because FIFA controls UEFA, the Champions League
and the Super League would have sucked all the money out
of UEFA.
So that's why FIFA was doing this,
not because they're like some big FIFA is like,
listen, we're okay with letting North Korea
into our tournaments, but a European player
that doesn't compete in the Champions League, see ya.
Yeah.
Now, excuse me, we have a bunch of slaves
to go bury in Qatar.
Yes.
Whoa.
Damn, dropped the hammer on.
Sorry.
Yeah, no, FIFA doesn't isn't isn't a good actor
in any of this, but we did kill it.
It's over.
Thank God it's over.
The fans, mostly from us and leading the charge.
I would say, I mean, that clip from troops
on the show on Sunday had a lot of people interacting with it,
had a lot of people watching it.
So we got the message out there.
I saw James Corden just basically watched it
and then did his own like troops.
He basically, he just basically did a cover band of troops.
Didn't drop the end bomb like troops did.
No, he did not.
No, he did not.
Do you guys see the World Cups during football season?
Yeah.
No, because they didn't do it in a fucking desert.
That's crazy.
They had to create these huge stadiums
with air conditioning.
It's one of the dumbest things ever.
You know what?
I bet you that there's going to be 24 hours of football
that take place then.
Yes.
You're going to soccer at 3 AM football and football time.
Yeah, we'll have to do a marathon for that.
This is me just writing checks.
I don't want to cash later.
I did learn that there are more players
on the US men's team than just Pulisish.
So that was a win for soccer awareness in America.
So credit to the Super League for doing that.
I think it was all good.
All good came from this.
We all got together.
There's nothing like a common enemy
that everyone could just get pissed off at.
So yeah, job well done.
Again, mostly by us, but job well done.
I'll take credit for it.
I'd say that the two biggest successes of this podcast
have been one, bullying Nyquist the horse off Twitter,
and then two, ending the European Super League.
Yes, there it is.
One and two.
So that one, just like, easiest could be moving on.
But there is something that popped up in the back of my head.
When this was all put to bed so quickly,
they're going to try this again in like two years.
Yeah, but we'll beat the fuck out of it again.
They're going to learn from what happened this time,
and they're going to do it like in the dead of night.
Yeah, but we found out.
We'll probably do it during the Olympics,
like when Putin invaded the Crimea.
But we found out they're bitches.
They are bitches.
So we'll just fuck them up again.
We will fuck them up again.
When they come at us, we will fuck them up again.
All right, so the other news we had was Lakers Twitter
had a catfish problem, which is we were,
I think we were long overdue for a good catfishing.
And it was to catch you up, which is really,
it's inconsequential, but it's also very funny.
Basically, there was a female, or we don't know
the real identity of the person.
There was someone who was pretending to be
a attractive woman who was very much into the Lakers,
did podcast appearances, possibly faked cancer,
then possibly faked her own abduction,
which is the no, no, you can't,
you can do one or the other.
You can't do both.
And was exposed.
And again, I just love any catfishing story online
because it's actually incredible
that it doesn't happen more often when you think about,
like where can you find horny dudes
that if you just talk a little bit of sports,
they will simp for you forever?
Oh yeah, the internet.
I think it probably does happen a lot.
We just find out about it when it gets caught.
People are just really good at pretending
to be women online, I think.
My idea was.
Laker Daniella is what we should call it.
Laker Daniella should be out there.
My idea was, why isn't anyone,
so like all these stories are pretty much the same arc
where it's like someone, someone creates an account,
puts an avatar up there that's not them,
gets in in a community,
and then gets like one or two close friends,
gets exposed, deletes their account.
I don't know why, why aren't people buying penny stocks
of this account right now?
Because what if, like there's gotta be a one in a million
shot that the catfisher actually is the chick,
and if you start waiting now when everyone's going at her,
you're truly the like, yo,
are these guys bothering you online, guy?
Yeah, no.
And what's the worst thing that happens?
Nothing.
You end up with it.
You care too much.
You're the fucking dude who loves the Lakers
so you can hang out with.
A buddy, a buddy to watch the games with, yeah.
Who you could sex with and jerk off to.
In very worst case scenario,
you look like a good guy for being like,
I'm the last person that will defend the honor
of this probably dude.
You know what, dudes need white knighting too.
I don't know why that gets reserved exclusively for females.
Like every now and again,
it would be nice if somebody white knighted for us.
Dude's supporting dudes, I always say that I,
when was, oh, when I texted Titus,
or good friend Mark Titus,
because he had a nice tan,
and I was like, dude, you got a sick tan.
Like we should do that more often to each other.
Dude's rock, yeah.
Go tanning?
No, just be like, hey, you look good.
Like, hey, you look good, bro.
Why don't I just say it?
I'm looking at you right now.
I don't, I can't say it,
but if you were looking good,
I would tell you you look good.
Watch this, Jake looks nice today.
Jake?
You can't look at him while you say it.
Jake?
He's holding glasses.
Jake?
Jake looks nice today.
Ew.
Ew.
Yeah.
Hot meme.
I'd like to.
Not as much gel today.
Oh.
Natural.
Okay, yeah.
I like natural.
I like my.
I got a button down for tonight.
More first for the love, yeah.
I like my PMT sports biz guys with less makeup on.
What is tonight?
Lugers for Stool Benchmark.
They've edited, they're done,
they ended the podcast,
so they're doing a big farewell.
Season one rip.
Well, we're still doing once a week.
Thursday releases.
You know what we should do?
We should hire Vivian.
Yeah.
And the chance that she's real.
Yes.
She got abducted.
That's what I'm saying.
She's got cancer.
She might, hopefully she survives this ordeal.
And the chance that she's real,
we should hire her to be on the show.
To be our Lakers stats girl.
If it turns out that Vivian is actually really Vivian,
she is our official Lakers correspondent.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Okay.
Hire.
It's in the finance world, it's a distressed asset.
We're buying distressed assets
in the hope that we can turn them around.
Underly.
So we buy the distressed asset.
It's one in a million shot
that she's actually who she says she is.
But if she is, she'll remember
that we were the ones who had her back.
She's a Kevin Euclid.
She's like, if we're doing Moneyball,
she gets on base.
Doesn't matter how she gets there.
So the other part of the story,
there was a couple other funny elements.
Kevin Durant is now the king of Twitter.
So he was on Twitter spaces, like getting the breakdown.
Kevin Durant, we have given him a lot of shit.
We've called him the triple B many times.
And I just think that he has persisted so much online
as being just an online dude
that he's won everyone over.
Who's like, oh, you're so lame for being online all the time.
And he just stayed online.
And now it's like, no, he's cool because he's like us.
I'm removing the mayor of Twitter handle title
to from Chrissy Teigen giving it to Kevin Durant
because Chrissy shows up and she just like tweets
and then hopes that she gets all her friends to retweet her
and tell her how great and funny she is.
Kevin Durant actually engages
with everybody online and he engages
with like every single Twitter development.
Like the people, you know how sometimes
you get a notification on Twitter.
It's like, hey, we're rolling out this new feature.
Give it a shot.
All those go to Kevin Durant and he tries them out
immediately, fills out the forms, sends them back.
He's on spaces.
He's running, he's probably the biggest power user
of Twitter spaces.
He is the official mayor of Twitter.
He is.
Was he catfished by it?
No, he jumped into a Twitter spaces
and just asked for like a rundown
by a guy who, there was a guy, unfortunately,
who did like kind of fall in love with this chick,
who's not a chick, and then also Taylor Rooks jumped in
and everyone, like what they've made Vivian out to be
is what Taylor Rooks is in real life
and they all like, she was trending
just because she went into a Twitter space,
which was hilarious.
Ice Cube's son, O'Shea Jackson Jr.
He retweeted being like five fine Vivian.
Mark Heath Morris did that.
The whole internet was like, whole Lakers internet
and it was just a very, again, catfishing stories.
I feel like we haven't had a good one in a while.
So, and then she deleted her account,
never to be seen again.
So the person in the picture is a Vivian.
I know that a few of them are photoshopped,
kind of like the college admissions thing.
She was like playing water polo at some point,
but the background's always changed for her,
but it is a real person, right?
The individual exists.
Whoever that person is should say,
should take on Vivian's personality right now.
It should be like Doug's.
It should be like Doug's.
Vivian should see that there's a brand built around her
already, she should just learn everything she can
about the Lakers right now, hop online and boom,
she's immediately accepted as an actor.
She's there, she's ready to roll.
I like that.
So she's kind of made like a, she's almost,
what is it, what do you call it, Billy?
What do you call it, like butterfly in the moth
and the larva, what is it called?
Metamorphosis?
Yeah, there it is.
She's, someone can hop into the larva sack
and come out a beautiful butterfly,
which is not a pun because her name is Butterfly,
her Twitter handle.
I didn't do that on purpose, but it is.
I just realized that.
But what is it, Butterfly?
It's Butterfly 424 or something.
Okay, so.
It's actually remarkable that you're able to build
such a strong brand with such a lame handle.
Yeah.
Well, she did gain 16,000 followers,
solely off of the fact that she got fake abducted
and had fake cancer.
That's true, so I mean, she also was attractive,
which helps.
Yes, yes.
All right, here's how I feel
about the whole catfishing thing,
because everybody online, to a certain extent,
pretends to be somebody that they're not.
Right?
Well, we're all losers.
We're all losers.
Is that too deep for 424?
Yes, we're all losers.
It's the fact, like everyone puts forth
what they want to put forth online.
And so we're all just catfishing everybody.
This is why celebrity, yeah, worship is so stupid.
It's the old, like, I can't believe this celebrity couple
got divorced, like, oh, I can, because they had a marriage.
Like, me, Big Cat and Hank,
we don't actually write any of this show.
We're just the beautiful faces, just to suck you guys in.
Jake writes everything, it's Bubba.
Jake writes, when Jake's wearing his glasses,
he writes everything.
Yeah, he's our head writer.
I know what we can do with these guys.
Oh, Jake, I remember where I was gonna ask you,
Chet Holmgren.
Yeah.
Gonzaga got another lanky white guy.
Surely this will take him over the top.
I'll see.
I think that's all I wanted to say.
I thought Jake broke that news yesterday,
because he tweeted out Chet Holmgren to Gonzaga.
And I was like, Jake, are you breaking news?
He's like, no, I'm just watching his livestream
and reporting.
Also, Chet Holmgren is not, like,
if we're just going name alone,
that's a fucking country music,
like a failed country music act in Nashville.
That's not a number one pick,
number one recruit to Gonzaga.
I would say, yeah, like,
B-list country musician slash,
probably the best used car salesman in Columbus.
Yeah, from Minnesota.
Come on down, see Chet.
What are they doing?
What's Mark Feud doing in Minnesota?
Jaylen Suggs.
He's just stealing the whole state.
Yeah.
Damn.
So, should be interesting.
Chet, it did bother me a little.
I say that jokingly about Chet Holmgren,
simply because I saw it,
and like, if Wisconsin was at its peak as a program,
that's a, we should get a guy like that,
a fucking tall-length dude from Minnesota.
Especially his reciprocity.
Right, exactly.
It should be us.
So, what else do we have?
The, oh, I saw a crazy stat I wanted to throw out there,
because we respect, credit to us, by the way,
for getting ahead of the respecting Steph Moore
the night before he went for 49.
That felt good, but he is insane.
He's off, he's off the charger.
So, yeah, it's kind of progressed
over the course of the last week.
It's been like, Steph is unreal.
That's what I started with.
Then it's, Steph is insane.
Now, Steph is unconscious.
Steph is unconscious, and maybe MVP, but not.
I'm gonna start the train on that.
Do it.
Steph for MVP.
Do it.
Wind Horse would get, well, no,
let's see how many games he played.
I think Steph Curry should be
the most valuable player of the league.
If he didn't play enough games,
Wind Horse would get really mad at you.
Yeah, okay, let's do it.
No one's ever done what Steph's done.
No one has ever done what Steph's done.
It's true.
What is 73s in the last 10 games?
You cannot tell the story of the NBA in the year 2021
without mentioning Steph Curry.
That's a fact.
It also just shows how stupid we are as sports fans
and how, like, in the moment,
because I did, of course,
it's just one person on Twitter,
but I do think there is a sect of people
who are like, Steph can't do it alone.
And like, dude, in 2015,
he was the best player on a championship team
that won 67 games.
And the next year,
he was the best player on a team that won 73 games.
Right, they're just saying,
like, I think he can, he obviously has help,
but he can be the best player on a great team.
Right, they're saying also, like,
if you took away all of Steph's good players,
then his team wouldn't be as good.
Right.
That's probably just a fact.
One of the best, one of the best arguments out there.
Maybe we don't respect Clay enough.
Maybe we don't respect Joellen Biedenoff either.
Two, Joellen Biedenoff is insane.
The one thing about Joellen Biedenoff,
he's so good and he makes the ball
look so small in his hands.
And it looks like he's playing on like a mini hoop
because he's so large and so, like, incredibly skilled.
The one thing with Joellen Biedenoff, though,
is every time he hits the ground, I'm like, that's it.
Yeah.
It's over.
Which is, actually, I think that's contributing
to the Joellen Biedenoff for MVP conversation.
The fact that he hasn't gotten severely injured this year.
Yeah.
He's figured it out.
He is at a level, though,
where he just dominates, like, when he has the ball,
it's just, OK, he's either going to score,
he's going to make something happen every single time.
And he does, he is just an enormous, enormous human being.
When he caught that home run,
and then he took a picture of his hand holding it,
and it just looked, it looked like a,
one of those Cadbury cream eggs.
Yeah, under the giant.
Yes.
Under the giant holding his Cadbury cream eggs,
just right in your hand.
Yep.
The perfect, the perfect spot in the, in the,
in the palm of your hand.
Perfect analogy, cuz.
By the way, hand up.
Yeah.
I fucked up with cousin.
Why?
Cuz I, I should have said nephew.
Snoop always says never, not cousin.
And cuz, instead of, like.
No, cuz still doesn't sound great.
But cuz sounds better than cousin.
He also says cuz.
Cuz, yeah.
And he has said cousin, but it was also the delivery.
I just don't know if anyone can deliver Snoop Dogg
except Snoop Dogg.
No cap.
Right.
He throws around Ankh too.
Yeah, Ankh.
He actually says every relative.
Pretty much good one with any other family members.
Yeah.
Here you go, cousin.
Yeah, dammit.
I love my brother.
Listen, there are some shots that you wish
you could take back in life, but you know what?
Shoot or shoot.
Yes.
Steph Curry.
You gotta keep going.
Sometimes I have, sometimes I have weeks where I'm off.
Sometimes I'm unconscious.
Yes.
The, all right, so the other thing.
Oh, the, the stat I wanted to say that, that we,
that I wanted to throw out there
because it fucking blew my mind.
Ben Fox tweeted this, F-A-W-K-E-S.
I said that like Fox, the network.
Like the guy that overthrew parliament.
Guy Fox, yeah.
Guy Fox.
Dodgers have been favored in 96 straight games
dating back to 2019 season finale versus the nationals.
They've been favored in 134 of the last 136 games.
That's stupid.
It is stupid.
That actually is not respect the Dodgers.
It means that people respect the Dodgers too much.
Too, way too much.
Way too much.
That tells me that they're overvalued.
That's insane.
134 out of the last 136 games.
Is it profitable, do you know?
I don't know.
That's crazy.
Isn't that insane?
They still haven't won a real ring though.
That's true.
They are really, really good.
And it's not whatever.
It's, you know what?
I feel like whenever a team's really, really good out West,
you can just be like, we'll deal with that later.
Yeah.
No, you're absolutely right.
Like who cares?
Because for whatever reason,
you always think we won't have to face them
till like at least the second leg of the playoffs.
Well, it's just like, you know,
like the games are on at late at night.
I don't really see them dominating like who cares.
We'll figure it out later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, anything else
before we get to hot seat, cool throne?
Anything?
What did you team lost?
Fuck, I'm sorry.
One-on-one team head express.
What happened this week?
Just, you know.
Only one game a week?
Had some COVID issues this week.
Actually, I take that question back.
You don't care.
Don't strike that from the record.
Yeah, strike that from the record.
Don't, you just got to, you got to like ask a,
I shouldn't have said that.
I mean, I'm waiting for,
I shouldn't say it.
Mandisi, Mandisi to get off the IL.
Look what you did, eh?
I know.
It's just unreal.
Like this guy, he hasn't even,
he hasn't even swung a bat yet.
Where'd you pick him?
I think I took him like fifth round.
Oh, that's good value.
It was good value actually.
Yeah, but you need that to come through.
I needed to come through, but it's a long season.
A best abilities availability.
That's absolutely right.
And he's not out there for you.
Got to keep the stone hands.
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not papering out on this.
I'm not man-ewing.
So wait, what happened this week?
So I actually got really, really badly beat.
I think I lost like one eight in one.
But it still counts as only one loss.
Yeah, it counts as one loss.
So who cares?
We're one and one in the season.
We're keeping, you know,
just keeping things level for right now.
We're lurking.
Yeah, who cares?
I always say if you're, if you're, you know,
five games back at the All-Star break,
you can make a run.
Yeah, absolutely.
There it is.
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Okay, Hank, hot seat, cool throw.
You want me to go?
Yeah, yeah, do it.
Okay, I feel like the expression nature is healing
maybe overused sometimes, but last night
I thought it was extremely appropriate.
Foul ball guy is my hot seat.
Crowds, fans are back in baseball, nature is healing.
There was a home run hit.
And I think it was the Phillies game
and foul ball guy went sprinting.
Like it landed in the seats, foul ball guy,
you just see him come in the frame, absolutely hole in ass.
And as he gets to the ball, he fell.
And then the clip that I saw,
it fell before you even saw if he got the ball.
Like it seemed like he was like, he fell
and then he was reaching and the clip ended.
But hot seat foul ball guy is clearly not, you know,
he's been off for a year.
He's not in form.
He's slipping, he's fallen.
I don't even know if he got the ball.
The hustle's still there.
Yeah, the hustle's there, but he's rusty.
He's not like mid-season prime foul ball guy is on.
First of all, let me stop you there.
Let me stop you right there.
Let me stop you right there.
He's catching that ball.
Let me stop you right there.
Let me stop you right there.
What, was it a foul ball he was going for?
No, but it's not.
Oh, that's home run ball guy.
That's home run ball guy.
He doesn't catch foul ball.
His name is Hatch's home run ball.
No, he catfished you into thinking he was a foul ball guy.
Yeah, he's a home run ball guy.
He texted me this morning.
He said, yo, I need to redeem myself
after last night's debacle at Philly.
You know, do you see my spectacular fail?
Let's hit up a game.
Yankees, Phillies will do it for YouTube
and get hundreds of thousands of views.
Hope you're doing well.
Sounds lucrative.
There's one person here that should go to a game with him.
Frank Detang.
Yeah.
Yes.
Well, yeah.
I mean, do you think you could get him in position?
Yes.
Imagine?
Imagine?
Yes.
Frank would maybe turn around all his luck.
It would have to be like in the sand lot
where Benny the jet put the guy in the outfield
and was like, stand here.
I'm going to hit it into your glove.
He could do that during batting practice.
Yes, absolutely.
He could put Frank in a position to make a catch.
And then it maybe even bring the alternate jerseys,
flip Frank out in and out of jerseys
to get the players throwing him balls.
I just love, foul ball guy.
I just hope that in 20 years I'm turning on a game
and he's just flailing around in the outfield.
I'm grabbing balls.
It's great.
It's perfect.
It was so nice to see you.
It was great.
Just see him hauling fucking ass.
Hit him in Marlins Man.
Back to back.
I love seeing the hustle out of him.
Because you can control your effort.
You can control your preparation.
He did both.
It's just a matter of getting the reps back
before he starts catching those home runs again.
I'm sure about that.
I think about that episode probably more
than any other episode we've ever done.
Just because Marlins Man called me
and was like threatening to sue me.
This is before we were friends.
This was our first interaction with him.
And I think the reaction people were like,
fuck Marlins Man after that episode
and he called me the next day like,
threatening all this legal out.
It was one of the wildest.
We should have him back on.
Of all the people we've had on it.
It was one of the wildest like post interviews of all time.
Yeah.
But yeah, foul ball guy got to get back on his game.
My cool thrown, we mentioned earlier,
but guys named Chet, White Boy Summer,
and then the number one recruit going to Gonzaga.
And guys, Dave, Dave has a new season of videos coming out.
Dave has a new season of videos coming out.
Federal crime.
Yes, yes.
That is a federal crime.
No, June, June, season 10.
Oh, a little Dickie show.
Yes, yes.
Well, wait.
That's also federal crime.
Blunk.
That's the show I've been meaning to get around to watching
because everybody that I know watches the show
and absolutely loves it.
It's really, really good.
I'm going to watch Dave.
That's my resolution.
There you go.
By the time I speak to you on next Wednesday's show,
within the next week, I will have started Dave.
Wow.
That's powerful.
You know what?
I'm going to say it.
Are you going to do it?
It's freaking hero.
It's freaking hero.
Like that, dude.
You just, you're sure you're going to sign yourself off there?
I'm big into setting goals.
Because I heard that.
I heard the freaky stuff.
The fine language there.
You didn't say you were going to finish it.
You said you were going to start it.
No, it's important to set goals.
Big Cat, there's an art to this.
Here's two things you have to do.
That's the hero's move.
One, set goals.
Boom.
Check that off.
Checked off one goal already.
Two, set attainable goals.
Yes.
Three, start watching a show on Netflix within a week.
Yeah.
I'm going to be able to fulfill on two out of those three
already and three out of three by next week.
No, I was going to say I would join you,
but I don't think I don't want to fail.
You can do it.
No, I don't want to fail.
I already set my goal last week or yesterday of saying
I'm going to do a respect list once a week,
but maybe monthly, but also probably yearly.
But you said you didn't say when you were going to do it.
Right.
You're going to start doing it.
So it could start at any point.
And it could be, yeah, it could be yearly.
You know what the best goal is of all time?
If you just don't have any objectives in hockey?
No, in soccer, it's the most dangerous.
Got it.
Yeah, yeah.
If you say, I'm going to start drinking more water.
Yeah.
And then if you just have like a glass of water, boom.
Done.
Checkmate.
Other cool throw and Jake just showed me
that his phone wallpaper is a picture of him in Marlins Man.
I mean, he's a foul ball guy.
It's not my wallpaper.
I have a picture with him.
Let me see.
Pull it back up.
You like went and found him?
No, I saw him on Subway.
And you thought I had my phone.
The videos were cool.
That's even, that's cool.
Was this pre-U Barstool?
Yes.
That's perfect.
God damn it, I love you, Jake.
That's so perfect.
Yeah.
You're like, dude, I've watched your videos.
Yeah, I've watched his videos.
I like them.
I like the tips that you had on getting the foul balls.
Well, not the tips, just the behind the scenes stuff.
Right.
But there were a lot of tips in it.
Yeah, there were a lot of tips.
When he does the, when he, when he drops his glove,
that's like attached to his string.
And he pulls it up.
And I think it puts a water bottle in between the gloves.
So it like traps it.
Something like that.
Yeah.
No one in the world, this is the thing.
Like I used to be like, oh, foul ball guy is annoying.
He's, you know, elbowing people.
And then I realized something.
You respect greatness.
He's number one on the respect list.
You will never see a foul ball guy again like foul ball guy.
No.
Ever.
Do you think he'll probably have a kid just
to get more foul balls?
Yeah.
Just to bring to the games and teach his son or daughter
how to get more foul.
Which one do you think he wants more?
I should loan him my kids.
A son or a daughter just as a prop to collect more balls.
I feel like a daughter wearing like a full kit.
Yeah.
Maybe a seeing eye dog.
Puppy.
Foul ball puppy.
Yeah.
Compassionate, like whatever they call it.
Yeah.
He'll probably get into that.
Yeah.
Is that it Hank?
Good job, Hank.
Hold on.
Great job.
Thanks.
My hot seat is golf.
And the way that people are paid out for winning golf
tournaments.
Because there's a, I'm probably going to absolutely
butcher the explanation of this, but there's a bonus structure
that's going to reward the biggest stars in golf
that it doesn't matter how you finish in the tournament
for that weekend.
It matters how much fan engagement and sponsor engagement
you drive.
So it's basically.
Great for Max.
It's great.
It's the Max Homer rule.
Wait, so we can make them money?
We can make them money.
They could pay us back.
And they could potentially pay us back.
So that's my cool throne is going to be us.
Because we can play both sides of this coin very easily.
So they're saying, in the explanation it said,
it's going to be given to players that drive engagement
like Tiger Woods.
So Tiger's probably going to be collecting checks
even if he's not playing.
And then they said.
I mean, there's a lot of engagement a month ago.
Yes, tons of it.
Yeah.
His driving ability was just, it made Brison DeChambeau
look awful.
And then Ricky Fowler, he's on the list too.
They're really disrespecting Max by not mentioning it.
So we need to get, this sounds like a scheme that will probably
get us in trouble, but we'll be lucrative for a short period
of time.
I don't think you can get in trouble for defrauding the PGA
tour.
I'm going to agree.
I think that public sentiment would be in our side.
I'm going to totally agree.
The way you put that is correct.
The entire sport is based on the honor system.
So if we just sign a card at the end of every show,
underneath, if we put a picture up on our Twitter accounts
saying we certify that we are not gaming the system,
they have to trust us unless there's video evidence.
And I think we've actually had this conversation
with our lawyer, Mr. Portnoy, who's that's another guy we
want to get on again, because it's been a while.
But is it a scheme or a fraud if you just
admit it out loud?
Because we're telling everyone what we're going to do.
Yeah, we've asked him that question.
I think he said, no.
I think he said, go ahead.
Yeah, he's like, go ahead, but I want nothing to do with it.
Right, which means really go ahead and slide in,
pass us some money in the back.
We are absolutely going to do everything
that we can to get Max home on this extra money.
Because Brooks will do it on his own, I'm sure.
Max might need some help from us.
Yes.
Wait, we're going to be nicer to Max.
Yeah, I think Max likes where he's at.
He likes the little fucking ball busting, you know?
You remember, this was probably 10, 15 years ago
when they talked about doing the original Super League, which
was the Tiger Tour.
They were saying Tiger could just break away from the PGA
Tour, host his own tournaments.
This is kind of like that, but for John Daly.
John Daly could show up and collect all this money
every single week.
I think he still, doesn't he still have an exemption
at like wherever he won the, did he win a US Open?
No.
He won maybe, did he win a US Open?
Yeah, he won a US Open, right?
Like it was Britain, Scotland, whatever.
He has some exemption somewhere, I want to say, that he
I think it was the British Open.
Kierdach, a fin bum rat.
He'll also be another one.
That's the guy you guys want on the show.
He's the one who, yeah.
He's going to be making a lot of money off the, like each vape.
You know how they have like, we wish that they would show
how much each putts worth at the end of a tournament.
Every time, what's his name again, Jake?
I think it's pronounced Afi Barnett.
1995 Open Championship at St. Andrews.
Afi Barnett, every time he blows a sick cloud,
they should show us how much money in like PGA Tour,
Buzz Cash or whatever they're going to call it.
He's been a game.
Yes, yes.
Two majors.
Two majors, what was the other one?
91 PGA Championship at Kirk and Stick,
and 95 Open Championship at St. Andrews.
That's what I was thinking about.
So maybe he, yeah, so maybe we, he gets a,
I don't know how the exemptions work.
I'd kind of like that idea that like,
like Freddie Couples is going to be playing the masters forever.
All right, my hot seat is my favorite kid's show,
Bluey, which I have talked about a couple times before.
If you're not watching it, if you have kids
and you're not watching it, well, you're stupid,
but you actually might be on, you might be good
because there was an article that kids cartoon,
Bluey criticized for not having disabled, queer,
poor, gender diverse or dogs of color,
prompting important debate.
Aren't they blue healers?
Yeah, it's dogs, it's show about cartoon dogs.
Are the dogs?
It's a show about cartoon dogs.
Okay.
And they don't have any dogs of color?
It's show about cartoon dogs.
Okay.
No poor dogs?
It's show about cartoon dogs.
It's crazy.
Can dogs be rich?
It's, actually, yeah, there was a one Chinese lady
that left all her money to a dog.
I just, I just love that idea that it's like,
well, I wasn't represented at Bluey.
Well, none of us work because we're not dogs.
It's a show about dogs.
Cartoon fake dogs.
It's eight minutes an episode.
This is actually probably the world's richest dog
right here, the Doge.
The Dogecoin.
The Doge Day.
Although I was, I was sold a bill of goods
about Doge Day today.
What?
Everybody was just saying Doge is going to go
to the moon today.
I mean, I packed my bags.
I could never see that happening.
Damn.
Fuck.
And then my cool turn is the Bengals jerseys
because they didn't really change them.
Yeah.
That was the lamest.
Like, hey, look at this.
Like what?
Look at Joe Burrow's fucking scars is really the takeaway.
Did you see that quote though he had?
Holy shit, I gotta find it.
It was awesome.
This is a, oh, damn, that is a huge scar.
Whoa.
He is, it's the anti Trevor Lawrence quote.
Not to bash Trevor Lawrence, who we're rooting for,
but he said, if I died without scars,
that just means I did nothing worth fighting for.
I think that was a brave part too.
Pretty fucking cool.
Battle scars.
Damn, that's fucking insane.
That thing, you got to get a tattoo on that.
Yeah.
Or the jerseys, like on the socks,
they should have a tiger stripe where his scar is.
Yeah.
Add an extra stripe to it.
Yeah, but the jerseys were not different.
They weren't really.
I actually think that since it's well known
that the Bengals ownership is the thriftiest, shall we say.
Yeah.
They're the most careful with their money
of any of the major franchises.
And they probably just took the old uniforms
and had somebody remove some of the stitching.
And they're like, look, it's a minimal list.
We deconstructed the old jerseys to give it a cleaner feel.
The only thing that I got out of this,
the Bengals jerseys is, I think the NFL in the next two years,
I'm gonna call my shot, is going to change
the one shell only rule,
so that there can be multiple different helmets
all year long and it's gonna be sick.
That will be a big time, like fans win
with all the cool helmets.
I agree.
Because like that, the Bengals, all whites,
like those need white helmets.
Yes.
They have to have.
It'd be amazing.
Billy, what kind of tiger is that?
Bengal.
What?
The white tiger?
They're white.
The Bengals.
The Siberian tiger?
They're white Bengal tigers.
White, really.
I'll buy no.
I don't think there might not be able
to have white Siberian tigers.
There should be more tigers of color, I think in the NFL.
That's true.
If you're a tiger and you watch,
I'd always probably watching it and being like,
what the fuck?
I might be crazy, but I think it's the NFLPA
that doesn't want the multiple helmets
for breaking in new helmets.
Either way, I'm just calling my shot.
They'll probably figure out a way.
And I think that if it was gonna make enough money
for the NFL, Roger Goodell could have figured out a way
to spin zone the whole like it's not as safe.
There'd be so many cool ways.
Never really stopped them in the past.
All right, Billy, your hot seat, cool throne.
My hot seat is Joey Bosa for being extremely horny on TikTok.
He was seen using a massager on himself on TikTok
and with a TikTok model, Jenna Berman.
I think it's his girlfriend.
Yeah.
What do you mean a massager?
He was literally just like using one of those.
Magic wand.
With Thera guns?
Yeah.
So what's so horny about that?
He was using it on, it was just a really awkward video.
Billy, can you describe his girlfriend for us?
Wasn't it hot?
Were you turned on?
No, it was just Joey Bosa.
Looks like a very respectful person.
Yeah?
Yes.
Okay.
Cool throne.
I don't understand why this is a hot seat for Joey Bosa.
Me neither.
Because he was being a weirdo
and using the massager on himself.
Okay, so you'd rather him be like a certain quarterback
and go out there and pay somebody else to do it?
No.
Anyway.
I'm all in favor of robots taking masseuse's jobs
if you're an NFL player.
No, he was, it was a funny video.
Look it up.
My cool throne is cool records getting broken.
The underwater bench press record was broken.
Okay.
It's basically this Russian dude just took a bench press,
put it under water and wrapped it out 77 times.
Hell yeah.
In the previous record of 62 times.
How much weight?
Only 110 pounds.
But does that weigh more underwater?
No less.
So I'm like, that's more of just a holding your breath thing.
Right, like a Navy SEAL.
So I'm kind of, you know, in the back of my head,
I'm like, I could do that.
I could break that record.
In worst case scenario, you drown.
Exactly.
Fill up the studio with water and test it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I think we could probably find you some sort of a tank
to practice weightlifting.
That would be sick.
That break the record.
I'm gonna find more of these dumb records.
And let's break them.
Exactly.
Summer plans.
Okay.
And yeah.
You, of all people.
Yeah, you need more plans.
I have no plans this summer.
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
Jake, your hot seat cool throne.
Hot seat is frozen yogurt.
What?
Demi Lovato.
Oh yeah.
She is not happy with the positioning of the toppings
at a certain shop.
And she called it triggering and harmful
of the positioning of low fat and low sugar options
near the checkout counters.
And she took it to Instagram.
I don't understand.
She like, I think.
I have no idea what's happening in the world.
No.
What is this show?
What's going on?
Yeah, this is a real story.
Yeah, I don't understand this.
I think it was that she wanted to be like diabetes ice cream.
Yeah, but she apologized.
Oh, okay.
So we're all good.
Fine, good.
I'll move on.
I'm not gonna carry that weight around.
I did get halo top last night.
That's good.
So I was wondering if I was, if that's problematic.
I, okay.
I don't know.
I think it's disgusting.
That's fair.
It's like the most like you're almost eating ice cream
but you're totally not.
Correct.
You know what it was?
I saw the video that big cat tweeted out of the waffle
being turned into the ice cream sundae.
And I watched it and I was like,
I really want an ice cream sundae right now.
And then I went to the ice cream stores website
on seamless and I was like, you know what?
I have an opportunity with a click of a button
to not do as much damage to my six pack
that I'm sculpting for myself.
And so I went with halo top and I regretted it
but it was still something.
It's like just shaved ice.
Whatever.
Whatever.
I would rather just have real ice cream.
Fair.
Cool thrown is AFC Richmond because Ted Lasso
is coming back July 23rd.
That quickly.
Yeah.
Fuck yeah.
Great show.
And within an hour of that announcement
the super league disbanded.
Yup.
Right.
Can't help it.
Richmond not part of that group.
Are they an actual team?
I don't think so.
I love the colors.
I love the kit.
Yeah.
They are fictional but yeah.
That is, that's great news.
Spins on the super league was promo
for Ted Lasso come back out.
Ooh.
Get everyone more into soccer in America.
I like that.
Americanized soccer.
I wouldn't put it past him because it was during
the Apple awards or whatever it is.
Yeah.
The showcase for the new apples.
Hmm.
He's got to come on before the season two.
Jason Sudeikis.
Yeah.
I would agree.
Sure.
Is he, he's a big time AWO.
Huge.
Yeah.
I mean it just makes sense.
The kit.
Really, that's all I need.
I'm sick of seeing other people getting mailed kits
and I've, I've yet to receive an AFC Richmond kit.
Do you know that he's dating a woman in England?
No.
Jason Sudeikis is dating a woman in England
who was like, was a magazine model named Keely.
Isn't that crazy?
That's the name of the,
Is that in the show?
Is that art imitating life or life imitating art?
Yeah.
Real ones know who Keely Hazel is.
She's OG.
Top bun city.
Been, been around forever.
Okay.
I'm missing something here.
But that's all right.
No, you're not missing anything.
I really just wanted you to put an ice cube on my erection.
Bonk.
We don't talk about that enough.
Yeah.
We did.
We talked about it.
No, I felt like I was taking crazy pills
when it did kind of like just get slid on the road.
And it was like, how did, what was the process
of elimination?
You guys are P.F.T.
You were a father.
You guys understand how it is.
Wow.
The only real weird stuff with animals going on this show.
Wait, what'd you say Billy?
The only real weird stuff with animals going on this show.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Billy.
Hank, I just, I do want you to walk me through
your decision making when-
Make a video.
You saw your dog with a giant boner.
What did you, what ideas did pop in your head
where you're like, no, I'm not going to do that.
Instead, I'll put an ice cube on his penis.
All right.
You wanted my fucking thought process.
Here we go.
Boner pops out.
Big ass dick just fucking hanging on the couch.
I'm watching a movie.
I looked at him.
He was standing still and I said,
I'm just going to keep watching this movie
and not even pay attention to you.
And hopefully next time I look over, your boner's gone.
This is how girls feel in the morning
when they can feel the poke in their back.
10 minutes later, I look over and he is in the same exact
spot, has not moved and is looking at me with the saddest,
like help me eyes you've ever seen.
So my fatherly instincts kicked in.
And I Googled it, I had Googled it in the past
that this is what people either put him in a bath.
You didn't even have to finish the sentence
because it auto-completed because you'd already done it.
No, I didn't even have to Google this time
because I already had the knowledge stored some last time.
And it was like, it was like put him in a bath
and I was like, that's way too much effort.
I don't have to dry him off.
That's too sexual.
I'll just get an ice cube out and, you know.
So it came from your own brain.
Yeah, I audibled.
And did it go up instantly?
The ice cube probably melted halfway through.
Oh my God.
That was a hot boner.
I don't, you guys, I got, you guys do any of,
anyone listening that's fucking questioning this
would do the same thing in the situation.
I said, I had your back on Twitter.
I said, you were a ride or die guy.
Like if I-
If your son had a boner.
No.
Hank, I think that's too far.
I think you just, you need to invent
like a scarf for his penis or like dog shorts.
Cause it's out of sight out of mind.
You don't care if he has a boner.
You just don't want to see it.
You just don't want to drag it
all over the place.
Trojan tantric things.
Get him a dog fleshlight.
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Now here he is, Julian Edelman.
Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend,
Future Hall of Famer, which we can talk about.
It is Julian Edelman, fresh off retirement.
I think we're the first show he's doing.
I'm just gonna say we're the first show he's doing.
It's great to see you.
We also, Jules, we got a little news about
what he's got going on next,
which is gonna be great for him.
That will actually be released on our Twitter,
YouTube, Instagram, everywhere,
because it can't be released
until a little bit later on Wednesday,
but we're excited for that.
So we'll have that for everyone.
But Jules, great to see you.
Congrats on retirement.
How mad are you at us for asking you about retiring
when you were totally thinking about retiring
last time you were on in January?
Not at all.
I mean, when you come on the show,
when you come on here, you know nothing's off the table.
And I was just laughing in my head,
like these motherfuckers.
So you knew, so you lied to us?
Yeah.
I did not lie to you.
I just, there were two roads that I was looking at.
One was, you know, plain and one was not.
And I tried to go down the plain road
and then just, I couldn't do it.
I can't do it right now.
Looking back, I do feel a little bad
because I think if we had like thought
about your reaction a little more,
it was clear that you're like, what the fuck?
Like, who have they talked to
that this is even maybe on the table?
So I apologize for that,
but a great career nonetheless.
Thank you.
Thank you.
So I joked about the Hall of Fame,
but it's obviously not a joke.
Are you, do you see any of that shit?
Like, do you see the debate?
Because I got mad for you
that people were diminishing your career
just because they were framing it in a Hall of Fame
and not just he was really fucking good.
I mean, you see it out there.
Yeah, you definitely see it,
but it is what it is, you know?
Are you guys gonna make the podcasting Hall of Fame?
Ooh.
I don't know, it's tough to say
while we're still competing right now.
I know, but it's one day at a time.
It's just simulations.
You know, are you guys systematic podcasters?
I don't know.
You know, do you guys, is it because of, you know,
Dave's gonna come over here and he's the guy
that's, you know, started this whole thing?
I don't know.
Right.
The questions that I ask when I think about, you know,
I think you guys are Hall of Fame podcasters.
Yeah, well, I mean, we might send Billy down to Tampa
for a year and then can we do it without him?
Yeah.
You know, you guys, when the moments are the toughest,
I've always heard the best takes come from you.
Thank you.
When someone needed, when someone,
when you needed a take in an absolute moment.
But doesn't,
but Julian, does it matter that as podcasters?
Your stats aren't there.
Your stats aren't there.
Yeah.
So like stats are not there.
If you look at the,
You're not Howard Stern.
I mean, we're not there, but you know what?
The takes are there.
Right.
So if you look at the longevity,
right?
Like Howard Stern's a great example.
He compiled a lot of stats
because he had a super, super long career,
but there are moments that it was big,
like right around the Super Bowl.
Later on in the season,
that's when big cat me and Hank could be counted on
to really step up.
And sure, you know, we only, you know,
we'd had some injury issues.
We've both had kidney stones.
We've missed some shows here or there,
but do you think that that should be counted
in judging us in the Hall of Fame?
I'm a guy that, you know,
when I go to do something,
I just go to win.
And I just want to win.
I didn't grow up thinking about a Hall of Fame.
I didn't grow about,
I grew up thinking about hosting a Lombardi trophy.
So like to me, I really don't know.
But, you know, me to you guys,
you know, I think that of all the things
that you guys have done,
I mean, there's a lot of great things there.
Can you tell the story of podcast without you guys?
I can't.
Ooh.
I cannot tell the story of podcast without you guys.
So.
Here, I mean, I don't want to toot our own horn,
but we're not going to quit podcasting
because we like bump our knee a little bit
and get a little out.
Yeah, but I mean, say you guys take a little too much
out of all your spinny, you know,
you're walking down and you slip and you hit your head.
And, you know, you can't think as well.
I don't know.
Would you want to go out on top?
Which is what you go up.
I don't know these questions.
I'm just, this is theoretically speaking.
Yes.
So what about if like,
if Hank suffered and it's or if Liam got hit
by another car, God forbid,
and he wanted to get back into podcasting
and he thought that the best way to get his brain back,
maybe he would take a little performance enhancing drug
to be able to rejoin the show,
to come back and win another title.
Do you think that should be held against him
in his Hall of Fame resume?
You know what?
That's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
I would say no.
I would say you want to be out there with your guys.
Yeah.
Hey.
No days off.
I'm going to be out there with your guys.
Yes.
Yes.
So you're retired.
You are retired.
But how long do you think,
how many years do you think you'll be rumored
to be going to the box?
Because Tom Brady's going to play for 10 more years.
So I'd assume your name will be floated out there
every single year that they might need an extra weapon.
How many years?
I don't know.
Probably, honestly, probably as long as he's playing.
It's just going to be.
It's also the first level.
If I'm throwing out a couple of thirst traps out there
and I'm looking like I'm in shape,
I mean, it could go crazy.
If something happens and Scotty Miller
sprains an ankle, your name will
be trending within five seconds.
Mm-hmm.
Completely different player.
Right.
But you know, you get it.
Did you see the video that was out there of Belichick
when you returned your first punt for a touchdown
and Wes was on the sidelines right next to him?
And Bill asked him, hey, you know who Wally Pipp is?
He's the guy that got replaced by Lou Gehrig.
And then Wes Welker was like, yeah,
well, he can have the punt return job if he wants it.
That's fine.
Did Bill ever say anything to you like that when Gunner first
got on the field?
No.
Never.
Did he look at you differently?
No.
He's like, this is an old hat.
We don't need this.
Would you have said?
I don't know, man.
I was always in Gunner's corner.
I've always been Gunner's.
I give Gunner all my tips.
And it was kind of like, I would compete again.
I'm still competing against him.
But we're different parts of our career then.
I was 12 years in when Gunner got in, or 11 years in.
And that was when Wes was like seven years deep.
And he had it still going.
So it was different.
We also had a different relationship me and Wes.
It wasn't the same as, and Bill probably saw that.
He probably was digging at him a little just to get
out under his skin to try to get him to play his best.
That's what Bill did.
He gets the best out of guys.
Yeah.
You should root for Gunner because I'm pretty sure
Gunner's next two years count for your Hall of Fame career.
Just like everyone just combined Wes Welker's last few years
with your career.
So you should be rooting for Gunner
because enough years go by and everyone be like, yeah.
He was sick that 2021 year with Cam Newton.
Yeah.
We'll see.
We will see.
So you brought up thirst trapping.
I know a lot of times guys will say,
oh, I'm going to miss the locker room.
Will it be thirst trapping that you miss the most?
Because I would imagine your body's not
going to be in great shape.
A good old thirst trap definitely holds a spot in my heart.
Yeah.
It's between number two and number three Lombardi.
It's like one.
Your first one, your last one, thirst trapping,
then your middle one.
Maybe, yeah.
I would say that this might actually help your thirst
trapping career because you get to focus
on all the glamor muscles that you might not
have had as much time for when you were just
getting into football shape.
Yeah.
You know, it's the running.
When you run a lot, that's what keeps you cut.
And when you can't run, I don't know.
This is whole new territory for me, guys.
If I come out here in like six months
and have full dad bod, I know.
That's going to be bad.
That's what I'm rooting for.
I'm absolutely rooting for that.
I want to see you get fat, and then we can make fun of you,
and then you can get thin again.
Yeah.
That would be the best cycle of the day.
That's America's story right there, you know?
Get someone down, and then cut them down,
and get them back up.
Let's do it.
That's podcasting 101.
What is your knee at, just in general, of walking, pain?
Are you going to the gym?
I mean, we can't have Julian Edelman get fat.
As much as I want to, you know, you
got to be out there doing like, hey, happy Father's Day.
Here's a picture of me shirtless.
Hey, happy Mother's Day.
Oh, here's a picture of me shirtless.
You know, like that shit has to.
Hey, Merry Christmas, guys.
Oh, whoops.
This is me in a pool.
Happy Yom Kippur.
Yeah, right, right.
But yeah, we're going to keep some stuff going.
Hey, you know, we got to work out routine going.
And my knee, I mean, it's just, it's different, you know?
Like, it just doesn't function the way it wants to.
You know, when you're bone on bone
and you're missing things in there,
like, you don't want to run.
Right, right.
It's one of those things where you not only don't want to run,
you really can't.
So finding a way to fill that void is going to be, you know,
my next life work.
You need a hobby.
We need to, we need to figure out what your hobby is,
because, I mean, you've told us so many times,
like what your workout routines would be like, how,
like you would be, it's like cliche to say the last person out,
but you would be working out all the time during football season.
You need to find a hobby that can fill that void.
Might I suggest Frisbee golf?
Disc golf, excuse me.
Do you have to walk it?
Yeah, bank chains, baby.
I mean, let's see.
Let's see how the shoulders are with the rotator cuffs.
Maybe, maybe, maybe we'll get, get into that.
Ooh, those are bad too.
So, like, we're, we're 13 surgeries deep right now.
Ooh, yikes.
Again, I mean, I'm not saying like PFT had surgery on his foot.
I got bit by a dog.
We didn't quit.
But whatever, that's fine.
That's your prerogative, that's fine.
No, I have a serious question though.
So, obviously it sucks having to retire,
having the end of the road.
But is it a silver lining?
Like you just know you can't do it instead of I,
I physically can do it, but I'm not the same ability that I was.
Cause I feel like that would be hurt more
if you were physically feeling okay to do it,
but just weren't as quick or shifty.
This is really like, hey, it, it can't happen.
Like I can't, my knee cannot do it.
No, it, it, it's almost satisfying
because I left everything on the field, honestly.
Like, you know, I'm not a greedy guy.
What else do I have to play for?
I set, set out to go out and make a team,
try to win some championships.
And honestly, I've accomplished everything
plus more than I ever thought I would have
going into my rookie year.
Like I, if I were to my rookie year and look on to my career
and say, this is what it's going to be,
I would, I would have, I would have saved, no, no shot.
Right.
That's how much work I had to put into this whole thing.
And, you know, it's something where I'm proud of my career.
I'm proud of everything.
I'm proud of the, the relationships,
you know, the teams I've been a part of.
And, you know, it, it, all their time is undefeated.
And, you know, that, that's just how it goes.
And I'm not going to go out there and try to play
on something where you look like a bobblehead out there,
like a 36 year old, old guy put lacing up the knee brace,
the back brace, you know, I don't, I don't want to have that.
I don't want to, I don't want to look like that.
I respect the game too much.
It's been too good to me.
So, you know, it's one of those things where if I can't go out
there and be the, the player that I know I am in this league
and that I've been for, you know, a consistent period of time,
you know, I have no problem walking away because, you know,
I enjoyed the time that I did have in this league.
Yeah.
The way that you're talking right now,
you're actually making a great case for yourself for the hall.
Like Peter King is going to listen to that answer
and be like, this guy gets it.
Julian gets it.
He gave to the sport.
Yeah.
More than the sport gave to him.
Yes.
You should say that you're going to have Peter King
do your induction speech.
Yes.
If you do get into the hall.
If I ever do one of you guys will do my induction seat.
It'll be a do it from you two and like father.
We would be like, so Julian, not really a Hall of Famer
when you put him up against Reggie Wayne.
Where's Heinz Ward?
Why hasn't he been inducted in?
I would just point to people in the audience
and be like, that's John Madden down there.
That's amazing.
What's up, Groots?
Yeah.
It'll be sick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're never going to get in if that's your answer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They will keep you up for that.
If you, if you're looking back though at your career,
because you had a lot of amazing moments, obviously,
like winning the Super Bowls, getting the trophies.
Is there one moment or one play that you think of?
And you're like, I'm the most proud of that play.
Not necessarily your best play are the one
that we all have seen in highlights a lot.
But like, is there one play where you're like,
that's who I was as a football player?
I loved the third and 14 against the Seattle Seahawks.
Getting, you know, when Tom hit me late across the middle
and Cam Chancellor, you know, put, you know,
put a little heat on me and hit me hard.
And, you know, that whole week going into that game,
all we kept on hearing was the legion of boom,
the no fly zone, the this, the that.
And, you know, that, that was a cool moment when,
you know, I knew I got his best.
And I was able to get up and go and then, you know,
make a play in the next couple of plays.
Like, you know, like that, hey, we're here to play.
This, this is, we may not be the flashy, you know,
skilled position group or not the legion of boom.
We're not this, which I have nothing but respect
for those guys.
Those guys were Studs, Earl Thomas, Sherm,
freaking Chancellor.
But, you know, that was, that was like one of the things
that was, that was my play that I love that, you know,
that's hard nose football right there.
That's what I always, and when I transferred to receiver,
it was always, can you make the catch over the middle?
Yeah.
You know, and that was the catch over the middle
in the biggest moment, you know.
So those were, that was a fun play.
And then I'd say my favorite memory would probably have to be,
when we went to Kansas City and won that game in 18,
you know, just the, the sheer fact that my generation
of Patriots, we never won on the road in the playoffs.
And that was our first task, going to the road.
And we got beaten Denver twice by Denver, close games,
last plays of the game.
And, you know, to go into Kansas City,
which that place gets rocking,
and that team's a really good team.
And, you know, to go in and get that W
and against that, that, that, the odds of that, that game.
And it was, it was special.
That's a special one, the flight home.
You know, those are, those are the, what you're going to miss,
you know, the flights and, you know, that was a fun game.
The, so you just said your favorite play.
Hank texted us, he said, a concussion was his favorite play.
Were you concussing that play the third and 14?
Everyone thinks I was, but no, I wasn't concussed.
You got smoked.
I got smoked.
I definitely got smoked.
The thing is on the pump return, right before that,
I don't know if it was that one.
I took a hit pointer and I've said this on, on air before,
I took a hit pointer and I could, I could barely walk.
Like, but like when a play goes,
especially in a Super Bowl, like everything,
there's no pain.
But in between plays, you're like, oh shoot, that hurts.
Oh no, that hurts.
All right.
I said, all right.
And then we go.
And so like after that, I mean, I was tired.
We were going no huddle.
Like we, it was a pretty big play.
And I was like trying to get up and dull is right there.
You know, I couldn't, my hit pulled on me.
You know, I don't think I had a concussion.
Do you remember getting hit?
Yeah.
Like you remember the actual hit and how I remember actually,
you know, I remember cause it was 10.
It was a X stock 10.
And I had the outside.
I was the F I had the 20 yard in cut
and they were playing a P coverage,
meaning they were dropping a guy.
So Tom was going to have time.
They're, they're given, you know,
they were given eight defenders in the secondary basically.
And so I was running late across the middle
and I was 20 yards downfield.
And I knew that someone, anytime you're going late
across that middle, especially that deep,
you got to start thinking about the post safety.
And they're, you know, that's their whole thing
is they run that, that cover six,
which you guys will learn it or whatever.
So I'm going late across the middle.
And I look at Tom, I kind of saw a chancellor.
So I knew that's, if you see the play,
I brace for the hit.
And I hit.
Yeah. I'm watching it right now.
And in, for context, for people who don't like,
remember it off the top of their head,
it's 11 minutes left in the Super Bowl
and the Patriots are down 10 on their own side of the field
in third and 14.
So like, if you don't catch that ball, it, you know,
I mean, I, I, maybe he punts.
I mean, you probably punt
because you got three time outs,
but that might change everything.
It might change history there.
If you don't catch that ball in your force
in a fourth and 14 on your own 30.
Yeah. No, it was, it was, you know,
it was a big part of the game.
And, you know, that, you know,
that's what you try to do.
That's what you try to, that's why you lace the mud, man.
You dream for those moments.
Yeah. So along that line, like, I think,
not to keep going with the Hall of Fame thing,
but you obviously were huge in the big moments
and the clutch moments.
Do you, we always have had this discussion
about the clutch gene.
Did you feel like in a big moment,
like things got slower for you?
Or it's like, I just know I'm going to come through.
I know that I'm going to make a big play here.
And like, did you feel that with Brady?
There were a few moments in my career
where you feel that like that zone
where things are going slow.
And in some parts of that game in Seattle,
I felt that in a very small amount of parts of the game
in Atlanta, I felt that.
And then like all the game against LA, I felt that.
But like those key moments and those,
those zone moments you get, I always felt like
I got those through like the weeks of preparation or like,
especially with like the Super Bowl week, you get two weeks.
And like, like, I feel like the first one we got there,
I was so nervous and I didn't,
I wanted to go out and be able to make plays.
So I made my routine.
I sharpened my routine.
I did everything that I did during the regular season
plus more and Bill does a great job of, you know,
he does a really good job of making practice hard.
I know everyone says, oh, well, it's just practice.
But when you're doing things in practice
in certain situations, he'll just say
in the middle of practice, all right, it's 3rd and 14th.
There's one minute, you know, you have no timeouts
and you have to get to here.
Like in between a period.
So like he's putting that on you right there
and it's competitive period.
And if you can go do it in practice
and you've done it in practice a few times,
you're subconsciously already, you've already done it.
So that's how I thought,
that's how I've always dealt with those situations
and those times in my career that like,
you're really zoned in.
It was always after those weeks of practice
that you like, you had those plays.
I remember when Tom hit me on that one play
where it was the tip ball and we caught it.
I knew that guy was coming to me
because we hit that play like three times
in practice that week.
So regardless if I was covered or not,
he was coming to that play because we're confident
in what we saw that week in practice, you know?
So like that's how it always happens.
So along those lines, I mean, everyone always says
one of the great things about Tom Brady
is that he'll throw to the open guy.
Like he won't play favorites.
If you're open, if you can get open, he'll throw to you.
But were there moments where you were,
would say to him like, yo, I'm in the zone.
Like I will, I will catch whatever you throw to me.
Like get it to me, I'm that guy.
We definitely had some times and some moments
where he would just look at me
and we would do something completely
that like we weren't supposed to do.
And the coaches used to get on us all the time.
Like, all right, you like, I know you guys got it.
You guys are doing what you guys do.
And we can't say anything because you guys actually,
because like that coaches get mad with that kind of stuff.
Right.
Go and do your own thing.
And there'd be a couple of times where like,
he would give me, you know, a signal or be a quick out.
And I knew he saw that I couldn't run a quick out here
because this is nothing there.
And I knew that he saw that we were backside
and a slant would be wide open.
I would just run a slant.
And this guy would hit me on the slant.
We'd go 15, 20 yards at the gate on it.
Like that happened over in a Miami game
in one of those heat games.
We ended up losing the, I know we won that game.
It was a late game, but that was in like 14 or,
yeah, 2013 or something like that.
We're like, there'd be times where
we would just kind of do our own thing.
And because of the years that we had off the field
where we would go to Montana or we'd go to UCLA,
we'd go to all these places
and we would run the same play,
which you could do like five different things
on that same play, according to each coverage that you get.
And we would have our, like some of our friends
that are out there helping us, like just try to cover,
like two or three guys try to cover me.
And like, even though they don't know how to cover,
they could cover area and he could read body language
and I could read his body language.
I could see what he would want.
You know, those things helped us
when we were to get into games.
Yeah, that's, that's, it's fascinating.
I've always wondered if you watch,
if you watched the film of a Super Bowl after it's over,
like do you sit down as a team and ever break that down?
Or is it just one of those games where it's like,
what happened is the end of this season,
we're going to wait till next season and start over again?
You don't, because once you're done with the season,
you know, like there's no more like film corrections
or anything, especially after that game,
you have the parade, you have this, you have that,
and everyone breaks.
But then like when spring comes and all of a sudden
they'll have a cut up of plays, installation,
cause that's what spring is.
You're installing the offense basically for all the new guys
and you know, whatever.
Like you'll get like a play from here, play from there,
and then you'll get a Super Bowl play
and everyone's ears kind of get up
and shoulders go back and like look
and the new guys that didn't involve,
weren't involved in the Super Bowl
or sitting there like, man, they're in the Super Bowl
or like, you know, that's when you see it.
You know, but you never really watch it as a team.
Yeah.
What did Coach Belichick say to you
when you were like, all right, this is the end of the road?
Did he text, did he call?
I hope he called.
No, we had a wonderful conversation on the phone.
And you know, he just, it was him, you know,
he thanked me and I thanked him.
And you know, I'll leave the words between us,
but like it was, it was something that was,
you know, it really touched me.
And because, you know, he's a man of few compliments
because that's his, that's his shtick.
You know, his thing is, I don't care who the hell you are,
you're on the table to get MF'd if you don't do your job,
which I always needed that, I love that.
My dad did that with me growing up.
Like I, it was a tough love thing where I,
what I grew up with.
And so like to, you know, hear Coach say
that some of the things he said, I mean, that was,
you know, that really made my, my, my, my farewell.
I mean.
Did he, he like read off your home address.
He's like, Julie, and you still live at this location
and you have this many people living with you.
And just want to make sure that as you advance your career,
you keep everything that happened in New England between us.
No, he didn't say that.
Did Ernie call you?
No, Ernie hasn't talked to Ernie.
Oh no.
I love Ernie too.
No, Ernie did not.
No, go ahead.
Tell the Ernie story.
Tell an Ernie story.
Tell an Ernie story.
You wanted to tell an Ernie story.
Well, Ernie's the kind of guy, bro.
Like Ernie is, Ernie comes into the facility
and like we have like our cafeteria
and every day you'll see Ernie, he's an early bird
or they'll just be sitting at a, at a lunch table
with a, with a huge ass like hairling tomato.
That's all he has in his, his hand.
And he's got like a fork and knife
and they'll just be eating the tomato.
And I always like bust his balls.
Like, hey, the tomato's in season right now.
Like you'd be like, yep, yep, yep, you know,
like he's not a real big talker unless you talk football.
And you know, over the years,
we've had an awesome relationship
and I always bust his balls on what he used to wear and stuff.
Cause he wears like, he was wearing these plaid suits
from like 1970, like in like 2009, 10.
And they came back and like, what, like 2014, 15.
And then I'd be like, Ernie, man,
you've been wearing that thing through the training
cause they never went out of style.
Like, you know, like he just has these little witty comments
that are, that are awesome.
And I'm going to miss him for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Are you going to miss doing the hype videos before the games?
Cause you were addicted to those as much as you were for,
for doing the thirst traps.
You know what I loved.
So that all started back in high school.
Like I was the kid who after the year was done,
I worked at this place called the Rikus Center,
which it was a training facility.
It helped you like your speed and stuff,
but it also had like, like a film studio,
like a editing studio, this, that.
So I would always make all like the team highlight tapes
after the season and like throw it on with some like ACDC.
And, and so that's where that all developed.
But, I mean, you got to throw hype,
hype video will always be there, man.
You can do hype videos for your thirst traps.
Yeah.
Like show you getting ready to make the thirst trap
and then have it all culminate in like one click
of a camera with your shirt off.
Yeah. Let me think about that.
How many times did you watch one of your hype?
You were really good at them.
I know you have a staff,
but some of them were incredible by the end.
Would you watch them yourself like over and over and over?
I would be part of it.
Like sometimes I would be like,
yo, I want this here.
I want this.
And like, I had the last, the last, you know,
elastic, the last button.
Which one was your favorite?
I liked the cartoon ones
when we were doing the cartoon ones back in 18.
What was the, what was our cartoonist guy's name?
Frazier.
Frazier?
Yeah.
This Frazier, he, we found him
and we got in contact with this guy
and he made like this Rocky one
where like I was climbing the mountain
or the one with like the arrow
and he, you know, and I caught the arrow
and like looked it in the eye and like,
I've always been a fan of a huge like awesome montage,
like a 90s, late 80s movie montage, Rocky, Cobra,
you know, all those.
That's just, I loved those.
I loved like music and guys training.
That could, it could be a good little transition for you.
Like I said, you need a hobby.
You could direct other guys hype videos.
You could put them together.
You could be a writer of hype videos.
That you, you guys started as writers
and it became podcasts.
Right.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah.
So who's one guy in the NFL right now
that you would like to produce a hype video for?
Hmm.
And why is it James Winston?
I liked him.
He could use one too.
Like I feel like, I saw that video
that was going viral where he was like,
you know, I was the number one pick
and then everyone's shit on me.
I think he might, he might win a Super Bowl
with enough of your hype videos.
Yeah, I'm probably gonna,
I'm not gonna go with James on that one.
I'll let him do his own hype videos.
Who would I give a hype video to?
DK, DK would make for an awesome hype video.
Yeah, but he's already hyped.
I want, I want a guy that's not hyped.
Scotty Miller?
Scotty Miller could be a good hype guy.
Get your foot in the door with Scotty Miller.
Yeah, so that you can cut him in the back.
Yeah.
You could just swap out like this next year's Super Bowl.
Scotty Miller looks a little bit like Julian Edelman.
Like, you just, you, you, you kidnapped him.
You go with the burrow.
Oh yeah, we could get you doing burrows.
I was just going to add on to-
You need to come back, you need to come back hype.
Yes.
All right, you know, you know, it's kind of like Eye of the Tiger.
You know, you're back in the streets.
You got to, you know what I mean?
It's, you've been trading what you really want for, you know,
the glory and then something happens.
And then now you got to get back on your horse
and fucking get back on top.
So like, that's the story I always liked.
I like that. You're passionate about that one too.
I don't want, I don't want the guy at the top.
I want the guy that's on the bottom.
Andy Dalton.
Andy Dalton.
Come on.
I think, I think we get started with the Joe Burrow hype video
because I can tell you're passionate about it.
You already got the soundtrack for it with Eye of the Tiger.
It sounds like he's a knee guy.
You're a knee guy, knee guy to knee guy.
It seems like a perfect fit.
Although if you did do the Scotty Miller one,
you could like add in like very sneakily a couple of clips
of him dropping the ball into his height.
And don't tell him about that.
And that way when it comes out, it's like, hey,
Scotty Miller really drops the ball a lot.
I wonder if there's anybody else out there that could play.
But I like the Joe Burrow one.
I like that idea.
Me too. I like them both.
Yes.
Who's your favorite teammate?
That's so tough, man.
Give us one.
And then your least favorite, obviously.
We need both.
You can actually, I mean, you could say Aaron Hernandez,
right?
Easy way out.
That's an easy answer.
It's tough, you know, like,
it's tough for your favorite.
You have like a group of guys that you came in with,
a group of guys that you're around.
You know, Matthew Slater, you know, he was,
we lived together for a long time.
And, you know, him and his family have been
an unbelievable influence on just me.
You know, I'm a wild man.
Everyone knows that.
And Matt is like literally like the Reverend.
And we had like two polar opposite sides of everything.
And like we lived together.
And, you know, when times were like, you know,
at its lows, my guy would always help me mentally.
And he would always be the guy.
And, you know, when times were high,
he was the one to remind me like, yo,
this is where you can, you know what I mean?
So like, I loved him.
Matthew Slater is, you know,
he'll be a brother for life.
You know, the Rob Ninkovich is,
we used to get after it.
Danny, when he came into the picture,
he was always an unbelievable teammate.
James Devlin, like, when James Devlin,
he was an ultimate teammate.
This guy would just his, he didn't say much,
but he would be in the weight room
and he'd have his smelling salts, his chalk.
He'd be all braced up to squad
and he'd hype you up when you were getting in there.
Like, you know, and he was just always a class teammate.
Tom, of course.
I mean, I love Tom.
Who?
Brady.
Oh.
He's been,
he's been, you know, he's been,
he's been like an older brother for me.
And, but he was always kind of like, you know,
he was the older brother that, you know,
you didn't, you hung out with them,
but you had like your little slap dick friends too,
that like, before you were cool enough
to hang out with your older brother,
like you hung out with.
So I always, you know, had those guys
and there's so many more.
I noticed you didn't mention Gronk.
Interesting.
Gronk?
Why did you and Gronk have a falling out?
We never had a falling out.
It's just, you know, Gronk, Gronk was like,
he legit was like having just a big old teddy bear
at work every day.
So like, you know, I would be an intense guy always.
A lot of the time.
I'd be a jokester too, but like, I was very intense.
And to have that, like, you know,
to have a guy like Gronk who, the game just came so easy.
This guy was like, just having fun.
Like you'd see him in the corner of his locker,
like playing with like a tape and like,
like laughing and like, you know, you needed that.
You definitely needed that.
So Gronk stepped me up there.
I think we should put that your description
of James Devlin there.
That should be part of your hall of fame resume
because the excitement that you had there
to explain someone getting ready to like,
go to war at the squat rack, that's a football guy.
Like you, I could see in your eyes,
thinking about him just lifting
got you excited in the moment.
Well, you know, James,
James came from a very similar story, man.
Like he was, he was defensive lineman at Brown.
He was like a D end or something.
And he worked his way to becoming, you know,
one of the best pullbacks in the game.
Like we live and died by, by James.
Like he did so much for this team,
you know, in the, in the special team game.
Like, and he, you never heard anything from him.
You know, and there was times where we were like,
I'd be sitting there and I want to say something.
Then you look at a guy like James who,
he doesn't ever touch the rock or anything.
And this guy is like just gun hoe, excited to be there.
Coffee, let's go, wait room, smelling salt.
Like that, that's, that's James Devlin.
And, and those are the guys that you're going to remember.
Yeah.
That one play they had in the Super Bowl,
I think it was against the Rams
because he had to block in Damok and Sue.
And he, he laid a lamb on him.
And you could tell like,
he knew that he was about to get knocked out in that play.
He was going to get run over,
but he was like, you know what?
I have to do this.
And I'm just going to like,
I'm going to run headfirst into this guy.
And it worked.
It worked.
You had, you had a couple big blocks of the Super Bowls too.
How come people don't talk about your blocking ability?
I don't know, man.
I just do what the team asked me to do.
I love it.
Yeah.
Put that on the resume.
You know, it's, I mean, that's a huge part.
Like I remember, and that's a huge reason of that,
of our blocking as, as New England receivers
was because of Chateau Shea.
You know, when I first got there,
Chateau Shea just, he just got there.
I believe he's in Cleveland now.
He went with Flores to Miami as the OC.
And then now he's the receiver coach at Cleveland.
But like Bill would always just say two things,
the receiver, just get open and catch the fucking ball.
That's what you do as receiver.
All right.
And then we'd go in the room and a chat would be like,
and compete in the run game.
And we're competing in the run game.
You don't need to catch the ball
and you compete in the run game.
And you know, like it was just, you know,
I had guys before me that were,
that were awesome blockers.
And so that's, that's what you,
you learn when you're a younger guy.
And you know, you got to be a,
you can't be afraid to go on a block.
It's a, it's an effort thing.
And, you know, and James Devlin,
he's the type of guy that motivated you too.
Cause like, like he, he craved can,
like he craved head injuries.
This guy like wanted to go knock himself out.
That's when he knew he had a good block.
Like, so when you see a guy like that,
then you're like, man, I got to go to the same thing.
Yeah.
The, so we're going to, like I said,
at the start of the interview,
we know what Jules got going on next.
We're going to put it out on all of our social,
Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, everywhere,
when the announcement can be made.
So make sure you check that out.
But I know what you're going to be doing next.
He's going to be Jack Easterby's hype man.
Jack Easterby's hype man.
The way you're talking right now,
is there any chance may be coaching?
Absolutely. You know what?
No, probably not.
You know, I have too much like,
I want to have a life.
Like I've lived this now for, for 12 years of like,
literally 14 hour days.
Like get up, 430,
get to the facility, 515, body work, workout,
ball drill, meetings, practice,
more workout, more meaty, like,
and the coaches are there for like 18 hours.
And the sheer fact that I've seen this group do that,
if I were to go somewhere else and not do that,
then I'm thinking like, all right,
I'm already in the hole
because I don't feel like doing that anymore.
You know what I mean?
Which I'll probably end up transferring
and doing that in the next life.
But like right now, like now I have no interest into it.
Maybe like, you know, I always tell the scouts,
if you need a guy in LA to look a guy
or receiver, work them out and like,
cause I always say like, what are we doing?
Like, let me look a guy in the eyes
and I'll tell you if he can play or not.
Like, that's what it is.
It's in the huddle.
When you're in a huddle, you're like,
there's false eyes and there's, there's not.
Like, you need to be able to look a dude in his eyes
and like really see if that guy,
if he's ready for when it's gonna come.
Yeah.
I like that answer.
Who had the best huddle eyes?
Whose eyes were the readiest?
Brady's got, Brady's got insane huddle eyes.
Brady, cause you know what he means,
already got like the, you know,
Zoolander, like blue steel, like look and like,
he give you that eye and like,
Jules, let's go.
I'm like, yeah.
We gotta clip that.
I think that was like every,
that was Julien Elvin's entire career right there,
summed up in a second and a half.
Yeah, you know.
The funniest eyes would be Gronk.
Gronk would be like, looking at you like,
that's the one guy who's got a great poker face.
You just don't know where it's going.
You get really Gronk-sized and you think like,
is Gronk tired or what's going on?
And then he'd have like a 50 yard catch
and like, like these six guys and he'd come in like,
I'm a little tired after that one.
I feel like a stiff arm, like three guys.
Yeah.
Heck of a time.
You have any questions for Julien?
Yeah, let me do the last question.
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This is big because Billy is going to do
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So my question, it's going to be pretty hard hitting.
Let's, let's hear it.
I always, hey, I'll tell you right now,
my guy knows some football.
I hear your takes, Billy.
I listen, I hear your takes, buddy.
Appreciate it.
Football and frogs.
So many Belichick disciples have been hired
as head coaches outside of the Patriots.
And why haven't they been able to recreate
the Patriot way outside of Foxboro?
Good job, Billy.
Roback question.
It's hard to go in and try to be Bill Belichick
without being Bill Belichick.
You know, you can't just go in and demand,
you know, the respect and put like this crazy,
you know, work schedule and this schedule
and, you know, attention to detail
and the practice like intensity.
Like you have to kind of massage that in
for a group that has never really had that.
You can't just go and demand it.
You know, Bill can literally, you know,
Bill's coached in the league for 40 years.
You know, he started with the Baltimore Colts, bro.
Like he's been around this.
He's seen every position, every type of player,
like in the thousands.
So like it's hard for a guy to like not,
you can't just go and try to copy what he does.
It's not going to be you.
I think that's, that a lot of it has to do with that.
A lot of these guys, you know, they go in,
they try to be a hard dick or they try to be this
and they try to, you know, they try to do everything
that Bill does.
You can learn a lot from that.
And I don't know, I don't,
I had never played for another coach
and I'm not saying it could have been different.
There's different circumstances of everything,
but you know, just, I don't think you can just go
and demand, you know, a team like your Bill Belichick
unless you're Bill Belichick.
Yeah, good answer.
Good answer, good question, Billy.
Was there anything that he ever tried to do?
Like a new wrinkle that he tried to add
or a different way of doing things around the building
where he recognized that this way wasn't working
and had to like walk it back to be like,
I tried something new, it didn't work,
let's go back to the old way.
Yeah, there was a time where like we were,
we were talking about like team unity or something
and like guys started putting cornhole in the locker room
and then like we ended up like losing a game or something
and we go right in, there's no more cornhole.
So it was gone, you know, like, you know,
but Bill does a great job.
He's evolved, man, he's an evolver.
That's why he's been able to stick around
and do the things that he's done.
I mean, you know, having Tom Brady
has obviously helped a lot as well,
but you know, he's very in tune with evolution.
Like I remember when it was 2000, you know,
like 14 and like he bring in, you know,
a bunch of the, like a group of leaders
and like he broke down to us like, all right guys,
we got a new generation of guys.
This is what, you know, like,
this is how they're learning in college.
This is what we're going to have to end up evolving to.
This is how they, you know, they're not just like this.
They're guys that are going to be like this
and they've been on this and, you know,
so he's always thinking about that.
Yeah.
I mean, I do think that like a Belichick and a Saban,
we joke about how set they are in their ways
and how old they are, but they do clearly do something
when it comes to the evolution of, you know,
how they think and what they're changing year to year.
I mean, you saw it in your time, you went from,
there was a time when you guys were throwing the ball
everywhere and then you became a power running team.
I would, yeah, like my rookie year and then it was 2009.
We had Moss, Welker, Joey Galloway
and we were throwing a bunch.
We were kind of like lost in that hole.
We were just, we didn't have like really an identity.
And then the next year we got the two,
we got Hernandez and Gronk and we completely evolved the game
to, you know, matchups and chest matches were,
all right, if they're going to have sub personnel on defense,
we're going to keep our 12 personnel in
and if they go big boys, we're going to spread them out.
And then that became a trend now.
Look at the position.
I mean, he kind of started that.
If you think about it, he had Gronk and Hernandez.
Like that was like the beginning of that whole athletic,
this Titan is like the baddest dude,
let's do these things, you know, for these guys.
So I mean, he always builds his teams to what he has.
So, you know, that's what he does.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's, so this has been awesome, man.
Again, tune in, 9.30, we're going to drop it everywhere.
What's this thing?
Well, I was hearing you guys talk this,
what Billy football was talking about,
he's getting on a keto diet or something
and you guys are, you're getting in a meat diet.
Yeah. Well, Billy, he, he cycles us on and off of diets
pretty frequently, but he didn't do his research
because apparently keto is like the last thing
that you should do if you have kidney stones,
which we have. Most of this show does have kidney stones.
So you guys aren't doing a meat diet.
I think I'm going to do OMAD.
What is that? One meal a day.
I was going to send you guys some meat.
This meat. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Okay. We're doing the meat diet.
I'm going carnivore.
This meat is insane. Yes.
I need it in the, I need it.
I need it right over there by that.
Was that a Colorado Kool-Aid right there? Coors?
Yeah. Coors, yeah.
I like Colorado Kool-Aid.
We're stealing that one.
Shit. We're definitely, we're cutting it.
We're cutting that and stealing it.
Being a West Coast kid, and then I went to Ohio for college,
we always drank Coors Light and like that brand of beer.
And then we went out, I went out there,
it was like Miller and Bud.
I was like, what's going on?
Bleep those, bleep those. We'll bleep those.
Sorry you had to deal with that.
Yes. Bleep those, bleep those.
I was more of a Colorado Kool-Aid guy.
Yeah. Hell yeah. All right.
Well, Jules, thank you.
And again, everyone check out 930.
We're going to put it everywhere.
Awesome things coming for Julian.
And you're always welcome on this show.
You're a recurring guest Hall of Famer
and a thirst trap Hall of Famer.
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Okay. We're going to finish up with some FAQ's reminder.
Go watch where Jules is going to be
on our Twitter and Instagram.
And we'll retweet it.
Fun stuff for him going forward.
Awesome interview by him.
Also, before we do FAQ's, a little housekeeping.
Billy Football, our son.
I had a talk with him last night
because I was getting frustrated.
And it was a situation where I didn't want
to keep getting frustrated.
So Billy's going to go away for a month and a half
at the end of next week.
He's retiring.
He's retiring.
He's going to.
I'll explain the whole thing.
This is much better explained as being the rum springer,
like with the Amish, where they go out into the real world.
They sew some oats.
Billy just wrapped up college.
He's going to have fun for a couple months.
Come back refreshed.
And at that point, Billy, you can
decide whether you want to rejoin the family
or be shunned for the rest of your life.
The way I put it is, Billy, on Sunday,
he maybe came in a little drunk.
And then on Monday, he came up to me
and was like, hey, I accidentally booked tickets
to **** on Wednesday.
And I said to myself.
Classic.
I said to myself, I'm tired of being the bad cop with Billy
all the time and being the guy who's going to yell at him
because then I get mad at him and then it comes through
in the show and people don't be mean to Billy.
It's like, well, he's half in, half out right now,
which I understand because it's your senior year.
So I told Billy, I was like, listen, why don't you go?
Enjoy your senior year.
No regrets.
You can have fun.
You don't have to worry about this show.
You can **** ball out.
And then when you come back in June and I told you,
pick a date that you're ready to go 100%
and want it all out of your system.
And then when you're back, you're ready to roll
and you actually will not frustrate me.
Hopefully.
It's very fair to be honest.
I've been half in, half out and doing as much as I can,
but also, you know, try.
Yeah.
Half in, half out.
As much as you can is not true.
But I also, in the next coming weeks,
I have stuff like finals, senior presentations.
Enjoying your time with your boys.
Right, family stuff.
All kinds of stumps that need exploring.
Yeah, so here's the deal.
Billy's going to go, he's not going to come to the office.
Next Thursday will be his last time in the office
for a month and a half.
He's not going to come to the office.
If he wants to zoom in, he's more than welcome to,
but we're not going to expect anything from him.
That way, there's no disappointment.
There's no anger.
There's no frustration.
It's just Billy's gone for a little bit.
If he wants to check in, he's more than welcome to
because we love him and he's part of this show.
And if he doesn't, he wants to just get drunk
for a month and a half, two months, three months,
whatever, when he comes back, we'll be ready to roll.
I cannot wait to come back.
Don't make a promise.
No, don't make a promise.
You will get a hundred percent.
Okay, as soon as school is over
and your month after school is over.
No, no, no, I'm going to come back.
No, I told him, I was like, he was like,
I'll be back June 2nd.
I was like, Billy, maybe a couple of weeks after that.
So how about this day?
No, I'll be back.
Can you give us a report
of how you spent your summer vacation?
You will, you'll come back with one.
I'll be your only assignment.
But I'll come, I'm coming back in the beginning of summer.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but this is your summer vacation.
Yeah, your spring, your early summer vacation.
Yeah, spring break.
So next Friday, we'll have our last show with Billy
for at least a month and a half in person
and we'll do something special for it.
And then we'll send our little boy off to get graduate.
And then that will diffuse me having to be
the strict parent with you.
True, I mean, not many college kids also podcast.
So there's a little bit of.
Right, you're doing an incredible job.
No college kids has ever had a part-time job.
No, Billy's right.
The schedule that Billy's been forced to keep up between.
No, no, I'm very grateful for everything.
Three podcasts.
We guys.
Yes, yes, all right.
But we're gonna kick the hell out of draft week, right?
Exactly.
Right?
We're gonna maybe get some shit going for draft week.
Oh yeah, we got to put labels to analyze.
We got all sorts of stuff.
Yeah, all right.
We'll have a special draft week here.
I'm excited for that.
All right, let's do some FAQs.
I asked for some, for some high FAQ related
given the day today.
What is your guys weirdest experience high?
Weirdest experience, high.
I went to go see, I saw 311 perform on 311 day
one time in New Orleans.
And it was my first time ever seeing them play.
And when they do that show,
they play for like five hours.
And so being high and then getting sober
and then being high again.
I'm like, I thought that they played
like all mixed up six times.
Yeah.
For the course that they're set.
Just be, anytime that you're high for longer
than five hours at a time,
can things start to kind of mold together a little bit?
And it makes it an awkward experience.
I would say the, I don't know if eating mushrooms
also counts as being high, even though it's 420.
But I, in Madison, I walked all the way across
a frozen Lake Mendota and then back.
And on the way back, collected a bunch of like wood
and timber and branches and thought it was like
the coolest thing ever.
And it was like, I'm gonna fucking decorate my apartment
with all these branches.
And it's gonna be like a fucking tree house.
And then I woke up the next day and there was just
like my whole apartment was full of trees.
You turned into a squirrel.
It was fucking so stupid.
You're like a beaver.
So stupid.
Yeah.
But it was sick at the time.
I would also add when I took MDMA in Hong Kong
and then I just, I started laughing
because Carla Niles was so fast
and I started laughing so much that I started to cry.
That's beautiful man.
Because a man was so fast on a field.
Hi boys.
I'm looking for advice from Billy.
Oh, he's a great one to give it out.
I'm a model and I have a casting
for a national brand athletic wear company.
In the video, they want me to show
how hard I train when I work out.
But being a model, I literally only do cardio
and light body weight exercises.
How do I convince them I'm an athlete?
What you gotta do is you gotta do burpees.
Yeah.
But do one really good one where you jump,
like almost do a worm and then bounce up off your arms.
You can do that because you're light
and you don't have that much body mass.
And that looks super athletic.
And then also do stuff like,
like any sort of like pull up repetitions
but just splice it.
So it looks like you're doing a bunch of them
but it's really just you doing it once.
Is this a male model or a female model?
Does it matter?
No, because Billy was answering
like it was a female model.
No.
Pull up.
He says you can't do any weight training.
She slash her.
Okay.
So, so that you can take a hit, get tackled
and then people will be like, that's an athlete.
Pull ups is a good one though, Billy.
Pull ups is like one of those ones where you're like,
oh, that person knows what they're doing.
Yeah.
Not CrossFit pull ups though.
No, not the kipping, no, kipping or fucking bullshit.
Big cat cleaning questions.
Do you still pee down the sink to sanitize it?
I do still pee in sinks, not often.
It's more out of just like, I don't know,
a little bit of boredom, a little bit of like,
I'll be like doing the dishes.
One thing they don't tell you is when you have a kid,
there's like 17 loads of dishes every single day.
So I'll just be saying they're doing the dishes,
finish the dishes, be like job well done, pee in the sink.
You know, just kind of a treat for myself.
If you have a dog that drinks out of the bowl.
What about it?
Just pee in the sink.
What?
What?
You know how dogs drink out of toilet bowls?
Yeah.
Yeah.
My house has locks on everything.
Oh, so you're making sure that your dog's
not drinking your pee.
Got it.
Okay.
That's the one that gets forgotten about
for the flush sometimes.
Understood.
Yeah.
I will never know the pleasure of being in a sink.
I think you have to be at least like 6'2 to pull that off.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's a small sink.
We'll get you one.
A private sink.
Find you one.
Yeah, we'll build you one.
Speaking.
I've been thinking about like how cool would that be
to just cut a hole in your wall of your apartment
and you can just like piss out the wall.
Yeah.
Nobody would ever know.
Or trash hole.
Yeah, exactly.
It would just feel like mystery water,
the air conditioning water that hits you every summer
in New York, which by the way,
that's another who's back of the week is mystery water.
Yes.
When you're walking down the sidewalk.
Big time.
Just getting jizzed on.
Speaking of high,
how come some podcasts randomly go higher
than you guys in the podcast ranking sometimes?
Oh.
Does that mean they get more listeners?
Good question.
That's a great question.
No, it does not.
I think, so if you start a new podcast,
your podcast is always gonna be,
it just goes to number one.
That's just how it works.
We were, we've been around for so long that we forgot,
like that also happened to us.
Oh, we also did tell everyone like we're number one.
I was like, I'm bigger than cereal, bitch.
Right, but then you realize,
okay, that's not exactly how it works.
The way that, the way to like realize
the success of shows is episodes.
So if you go to the episode page,
you can see where shows are ranked.
And that's why, you know,
we'll see the chirps every now and then,
but like, oh, someone else is number one.
Just look at the episodes, bitch.
They're always, we're there.
I mean, I think we're number three overall
in the world after Monday's show.
What?
Well, yeah.
We're usually around there.
Number three in the world behind-
Monday is number one.
Behind both most recent episodes at Caller Daddy?
No, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
Three, I'm talking about three overall.
Yeah, episodes right now.
I'm looking at it.
Murdered Sierra Jogan.
See, that's what I'm saying.
We have a daily, a difficult diplomatic triangle.
Part of my take NFL Draft with Daniel Jeremiah,
Super League of Troops.
Okay, so.
And then Dax, Dax, Dax.
What's the, what the Blake's fucking stupid friends name?
Shepard.
Dax Shepard.
Is that like six of the,
or three of the top six are either our podcast
or two people that were immediately on our podcast.
You said Troops and Daniel Jeremiah.
No, no, no.
That's the name of our show.
Oh, okay.
Description.
Are you high?
Are you high?
But either way, we see it.
Obviously people tweet us, tag us, whatever.
If you have a new podcast,
you should take the victory lap,
but also know that if we tweeted every time we were number one,
we'd probably have to tweet like 300 times a year.
And also, Billy, if you wanted to get murdered
on your little vacation that you're gonna take,
and that way we could have Jake try to track down
who your murder was,
that would probably do wonders.
So you guys do your murder podcast?
Yeah.
It's about you.
Let's go.
Go listen to the case, by the way.
Kirk's podcast, very good.
I listened to the first episode, it was good.
Yeah.
I'm gonna binge it because my brain can't,
my brain cannot handle not binging things.
It's the worst thing that has happened
with like today's entertainment.
I watched the documentary last night
and when it was over, I was like, is this over?
Yeah, right.
I was like, there's, where's episode two?
Right.
What was the, what was the, we know?
Just we know.
What do you mean?
Shave your beard, we can tell.
Oh, binging.
Fuck, that was a fat joke.
Yeah.
The problem is I'm wearing a black shirt.
Okay, so when I wear a black shirt,
everyone, like a little life hack for anyone who's,
which isn't really, everyone knows this,
but like if you're a little bit fatter in spring time,
put on, buy a bunch of black t-shirts
and you're guaranteed to have people be like,
oh, if you lost weight, it's like,
nah, dude, I'm just wearing a black t-shirt.
So then I forget that I am technically obese.
So when Hank makes a joke like that,
it goes over my head.
Cause I'm like, dude, I look hot right now.
I'm in a black t-shirt.
When I saw you today, I was like,
big cat's definitely wearing the shirt
that he wears when he feels fat.
But that's probably because I've known you for a while.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This was, if I'm really feeling fat, it's a sweatshirt.
This was the first really warm day
having to wear something not a sweatshirt.
Shirtsleeves, yeah.
That's what this is.
You look like a guy at an anime convention
that's in charge of the stage lighting.
I'm like a late version of Jerry Garcia
when he just wore black t-shirts.
Sub-Honk PFT and Big Cat,
what item of food would you eat
knowing you only get to eat it while you're high
and it's the only food you get to eat while hot?
Cool Ranch Doritos and salsa.
That's two foods.
Water.
No, you don't want water.
Yeah, I want some water.
That's the only thing you can eat when you're high.
Ice cream.
Ice cream's the best.
Ice cream's the best no matter what.
But like.
Ice cream's a very good answer.
Ice cream is so good.
Ice cream, you know what?
She's gonna like wake and bake on Saturday
and crush a pint.
Is ice cream getting re-apexed?
I don't think, if we're doing like the pantheons of creams,
is ice cream in the top tier?
Because you got cream, the band.
Yep.
You've got.
The song.
Cream.
Casuals, everything around me.
You've got cream pies, the donut.
Yep.
Cream pies.
And cream pies, the videos.
The category.
The category.
And then after that, cream Abdul-Jabbar.
Cream Abdul-Jabbar.
Yeah, I think it's probably like,
it's probably in my top five creams.
Creams, yeah.
Yeah.
Cream sickle and orange is pretty good.
Oh, what about, what about Balco?
The cream.
The cream and the, but you need the clear
to make the cream.
That's true.
It's like a.
It's Oreo.
It's like a Brady Belichick thing.
Yeah, ying ying ying ying.
But what's the question again?
What would you eat?
Ice cream.
Pussy.
Yeah.
Oh.
Bonk.
Yo, I just rewatched the old Barclay video
of Big Cat and Fights in the demo derby blindfolded race.
My question is, if you did it again,
would you rather have Hank or Billy football
giving you directions?
Billy.
Not my best moment.
Not your best moment.
You were, you confused right and left a lot.
I was blindfolded and Hank had to tell me where to go
and it was a disaster.
Well, it's like, whose line is like,
do I go left?
I was like, right.
Wait, what?
It was like, whose lines that you were doing a,
you're doing a bit?
No, well, that's how it played out.
It was just kind of a shit show.
Again, not my best moment.
We were facing the same direction, by the way.
Right.
Right.
So we had the same left and right.
Has any other media member ever got mad
about a joke you said about them?
Oh, good question.
Great question.
Rapaport did not like Leroy scooping him on the Gronk news.
That's right.
He texted Big Cat was like,
why is everybody being mean to me online?
Yeah.
It's because a dog fucking beat you
to the biggest scoop of the summer, bitch.
Everyone was going after him.
I'm trying to think, who else have we,
well, I mean, I guess Rick Petino would be.
If it is him that's stalking me and PFT now,
that would be it.
I mean, this is not your content was all.
Oh yeah, I mean, that's, he's a fucking weenie.
He's such a fucking weenie.
Did you see the Kyle Pitts thing?
No.
Nope, nope, nope, nope.
All right, last one.
That's, that's our producer, baby.
I mean, it's all time.
I can't believe this.
No, no, no, I saw it.
Yeah, there we go.
Are we going to get to see coach Doug's lead
Lewis go to a national title this summer
when we're stuck with just baseball for three months?
Oh, I don't know.
We mean stuck with just baseball show.
Yeah.
And the Olympics, the beautiful sport.
I think here's what I'll say about Doug's.
I at some point in, at some time,
somewhere he'll come back,
but it won't be when you expect it.
That's it.
It'll just happen.
And it'll just be like, Hey, I'm doing,
I actually, you know what?
I'll say this Hank, cause we've, we discussed this.
The one day stream, that's what we'll do.
The one day full season stream
where it's just like fire it up, play a full season
and that's it.
So we'll do that at some point,
somewhere, sometime, who knows?
Numbers.
37.
32.
8.
18.
73 from Bobo.
8, 8, 8.
Billy.
I said 32.
Animal fact.
32.
30. Oh, 99.
Oh, nice cooler.
We got a new cooler.
Holy shit.
This thing is awesome.
That's the coolest cooler.
Yeah.
It's a Colorado Kool-Aid cooler.
99.
Yeah.
T-Rexes could actually do push-ups with their arms.
Cause they could like push up.
No, no.
They actually would get up using this.
What is it?
71.
Oh, Bobo's so close.
Damn, this looks so nice now that we're not like on a,
also shout out Billy, clean the studio.
I came in and after, cause we had that talk yesterday.
I was like, oh, Billy showed initiative.
And then Hank was like, no,
I asked him to do it three times today.
Yup.
Love you guys.
I'm talking away.
So I don't know what I'm to say, I'm saving his way.
Today's not the day to find me.
Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love of free.
Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love of free.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be coming for your love of free.
Needless to say, I'm on to say it.
But I'll keep going a little way.
Learn and learn and apply peace of mind.
Say up to me.
It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Say up to me.
It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone in a day or two.
All the things that you say isn't like those.
Just the way my worries await.
You're all the things I've got to remember.
Are you shining away?
We'll all be coming for you anyway.
Are you shining away?
We'll all be coming for you anyway.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone in a day.
It's part of my take presented by Bar Stool Sports.