Pardon My Take - Kendrick Perkins, Celtics Lose Game 2, The Knicks Keep Winning, Rapid Fire Topics + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

The Celtics lose game 2 and we have some questions for Hank (00:00:00-00:19:56). The Knicks keep winning as guys get injured and Rick Carlisle is being a bit of a baby (00:19:56-00:27:00). Mavs win Game 2 (00:27:00-00:29:56)and we talk some hockey with a stunning Canucks win and the Panthers beating up the Bruins (00:29:56-00:33:06). Rapid Fire Topics including NFL on Netflix, Gregg Doyell getting suspended from covering Caitlin Clark and Jason Kelce is at war with horse twitter (00:33:06-00:55:47). Kendrick Perkins joins the show to talk NBA Playoffs, why he said Lebron should retire, playoff memories and his top 3 dawgs in the NBA (00:55:47-01:37:21). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:37:21-02:07:47).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take we have recurring guest, Kendrick Perkins. Great interview with Perk. He is on my, I think he might be on my Mount Rushmore of the way he says words. Oh, I love it. Great accent, good south tech. We should have asked him about Galveston. Yeah. Get a feud going between him and Chuck.

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The crown is yours. Today is Friday, May 10th. Hank. Dank. Dank. Dan K. What's up? What's up?

What's up, Henry? Just had a quick question for you, Hank. What's up? The Boston Celtics lost tonight. They're now down one point in the series. No, they're up one. Excuse me. The Cavaliers are down one point. Yes. The Celtics are up one point in the series. The Cavaliers up one. Oh, excuse me. The Cavaliers are down one point. The Celtics are up one point in the series. The Cavaliers only won by 24, so that's good.

People asking questions about the Celtics. It's just one game. It's a long series. Just one game. Just one game. It's just... Get into it, let them get to it. It's called prefacing your question

with giving you all the facts. So I'm not giving you anything out of context. Got it. Okay, so some people will say it's just one game. There are other people that will say, Hank, the Boston Celtics, when you look at their record against the best teams in the NBA this year, could be known as maybe a cupcake merchant. Maybe they beat up a lot of bad teams in the East. Maybe they have a sub 500 record against the top six teams besides the Boston Celtics. I don't believe those people,

but they are saying things like that. They're saying things like Jason Tatum, not a great shooter, and he seems to love the ball in his hands, seems to love taking shots. What would you say to those two camps of people out there? Good question. So what's the question?

What would you say to those two camps of people? What would you say? What would you say? You weren't even listening. We had the best record in the NBA, we're the number one seed in the entire playoffs. We've lost two playoff games and we're in a good spot. Okay. I think they're wrong. I think Jason Tatum is, just gets picked on. He's had nothing but success in his NBA career. He hasn't won a championship, but he's still that's a wild Once and one second you just put out there What that he's a winner that he's had a lot of six? I mean you rooted for fucking Alex Ovechkin for his entire career

Would you say the same thing like he no no I? Did not say that he was a winner before he won the Stanley Cup I didn't say I say he's have an extremely successful career and people just like you know try and shoot him down Well, I think he said he's won. He's had a successful beginning of his career. Nothing but success was the quote. Nothing but success. That's just not true.

I would have never said that about Alex before he won the Stanley Cup. Interesting. I don't know if that's true. He wasn't as successful as Tatum was, but they lost one game. It's the playoffs. It's one game. It's one game, Hank. It's the playoffs. It's the playoffs. It's the playoffs. I'm not going to let it get me down.

No. You guys are going to fucking kill the Cavs in game three. Probably. Bruins and Celtics 0-8 in game twos in their last eight game twos. Is that a fact? It's not a game two town. Not a game two town. 0-8 in game twos.

14-14 at home in the last three seasons for the Celtics. Yeah. Not a game two town. I actually saw worse homestead, I thought. It was like nine and 11, but. Yeah, I mean, they gotta, I'm sick, I will say I'm sick of these wake up call games, like Miami lose game two, it's a wake up call,

they'll bounce back, they'll figure things out and come back stronger. At some point, you gotta just be like, it's the playoffs, wake up time's over, let's just come out of the gate every game hot and just you know step on their do it So they have the like dr. Jekyll mr. Hyde thing going where you know one game They look like the best team in the NBA which they are best record in the NBA They earned that by winning the most games in the NBA PFT. You can only play who gets put in front of you

I agree with that point good point amen But then they come out in other games and look like they have no chance to get beat by 25 to a Cavs team. That's not that good. Well, the Cavs did play well tonight. Caris LaVert was awesome. We told you Donovan Mitchell would have a game where he, you know, he shot well from three and Evan Mobley was awesome as well. So like the Cavs have guys and they played really well. Yeah, they have guys. Celtics should, yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're. They should lose them.

They live and die by the three. That's, you know, what it is with this team. When they shoot bad, it looks terrible. And when they shoot good, they look like the best team of all time. So no panic, no nothing, just it is what it is. You lose a game, you know, wake up call. Yeah, it's the same.

It feels similar to the Heat series. I'm not gonna be humble about it, but it's like they got to come come out and don't gotta come correct three games Yeah, yeah, they got to win the next game, but I like again, you know, we had him on AWS love them. I love them like Missoula is the guy that's that's gonna get in their ass Tell them to figure it out. I don't know, you know why didn't get in their ass after game one I don't know what goes on there. But he's asked us he need to get in. He's got to get in everyone's ass. Yeah. The whole team whole team, everyone. Top to bottom. Yeah. Run a train stack them on top of each

other. And also remember Hank, we are. So he's climbing the ladder. Yeah. Okay, got it. We're I think we're what one game away from hitting Chris stops minimum. Oh, are we of several? Yes. No, two. I'd several is three. Several is three. Well, no, three. A few is three. I think couples to a few three several, I think has to be like four or five. I think several is three and up. I know a few is three, but I think I think three is also so he's close to

hitting his minimum. I don't. I think you keep him out till hopefully you don't get to a game six situation, but save him for that. Don't rush him back. I have a question for you. Yeah. And let's just be, let's just listen. What?

No, it's just, I have a question seven hours later. Oh, okay. All right, fine. You want me to just rip the band off and ask the question? I don't know the answer to this question. I Think you know the answer to the question right now, and I think when your head hits the pillow you might be like Am I right? So that sounds like what you think the answer to the question is no because I actually don't know the answer to The question you are but you preface in that way me Hank does so much fucking interrupting when we're trying to ask him a question It's ridiculous. I said you want you do you want me to abandon I'll ask question. Yes. You know what? I don't

know the next time we say is okay if I ask you a question. Just say no. Yeah, I can. Don't talk. It's not okay. It's definitely not okay with you. Question time. I do want me to give you my answer before I give you the question. My answer would be, yeah. That's it. That would be my answer. Yeah. Yeah. You know the question. What would your answer be? My answer would be, I think so. Yeah. The question is, is Jason Tatum the best player on a championship team? Yes. 100% No hesitation. Yeah. Okay. Are you sure? Yes. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. Are you sure? Yes.

Okay. All right, then we're good. Then you don't even need to tell him the stat because he already said he's good. You love your stats. I have a stat. Yeah. I won't tell you the stats.

You cherry pick stats and then. This isn't a cherry pick stat. This is the opposite of a cherry pick stat. There's a stat called BPM for basketball. It's kind of like war. It's what you contribute to your team points like overall when you're on the court. If you look the peak, like Jokic this year was like 13, plus 13. How's he doing? He won an MVP. Good point. Good point. We'll go to playoffs after because good point.

a good point. Good point. We can go to play. We'll go to playoffs after cause good point. Uh, and it tracks pretty consistently. Like when, like a peak Jordan year is like, uh, you know, 11, 12 peak LeBron year, 11, 12, the best player in the league, the, uh, the best player on a championship team is usually up there in the top 10. So much so that I look back and, uh, the last time a team won a championship with a guy who wasn't on with zero players in the top 10 of the BPM was the Detroit Pistons. Now you could make the argument that these Celtics are like that Pistons team where the team is so good collectively that it doesn't matter. But does that make you a little concerned? Because if you go down the list, it's pretty much every year. He's 16th. What's Brown? Brown is here and

I'll find it for you. But it's it's it's every single year you go down like Yoko's last year was one Curry Curry actually the the Warriors year was almost an aberration. Curry was ninth. Giannis was to LeBron five, Kwai six. When the Warriors won in 2018, that team, it was incredible. They had Steph and KD three and four. Like down the list, it goes- I think you said Jalen was pretty far down there. Every team that has won a title has a guy who is a top 10 BPM guy on their roster. All right, I'm going to find it for you.

But again, and here's where I'm being fair, Hank. The wolves also don't have a top 10 guy from the regular season. So maybe this is the year that we have two teams that don't have quote unquote, like one of the top five players in the league, although Anthony Edwards and Jason Tatum did finish, do you finish five and envy? What about the is Luca, I'm assuming is on there. Yes. for you. Oh, yeah, Shay. So this year the top the top ten were yokich Luca Giannis Shay Tyrese Halliburton LeBron Sabonis Brunson

Mitchell kawaii. Those are the top ten for this year and Hold on. I'm to get it for you. What? What are you going to do? Yeah, I mean by that it's going to, you're saying it will be a Knicks. No, no, no, no, no. There's Pacers past finals. No, no, no, no.

That's Pacers past finals. No, that's, Pacers won a title. That's not how stats work also. Like any, any of those teams from the East could make the finals. Right. You're talking about the winning, the winning team. The winning team. Historically, I mean, it doesn't take a stat to tell you this. It takes just watching basketball for the last, feels like 30 years. The winner

of the NBA championship usually has a superstar on their team. Correct. Yeah, but the Celtics team, to your point, is built, you know, it's a team. It is a team. That's what I'm saying. It could be the Wolves versus Celtics and you could be saying, well, this stat makes no sense because both these teams have proved the sum of the parts is bigger. Now, Anthony Edwards also is number two in BPM in these playoffs. He's ascending to a point. You know who's number three? Here's a helpline. You know who's number three? Derek White. So it might be Derek White's team. So, Derek White MVP plus 4,000. That's true. That is true.

So it's actor fiction. So then what's the argument? But no, I'm going to take Hank's side. I'm going MVP plus 4000 so that's true. That is true. So it's so I'm gonna say so then what's the argument? But no, I'm gonna take Hanks. Why I'm gonna take your side Jason Tatum and the honor on a championship team I'm gonna take your side a little bit in this if The Celtics get hot if Tatum plays he's very capable of being the best player on the court in most games Like he could do it right. He's we've seen him do that Like you said he finished what fifth and MVP voting. So if he, if he kicks it into high gear, I don't think what or he said like something about MVP voting. Nope. With Tatum. Nope. I thought you said something like that like two minutes ago. I, I think I said it, uh, Jason, I think finished

fifth or fifth. Yeah. So there you go. So he's up there in the conversation. If he plays an extremely high level for the next three four weeks Five weeks he's going to be and and they win the championship Nobody's gonna be like oh, I can't believe this no-name Celtics team won. No, they're really good team They'll say Jason Tatum is a superstar and he carried them to these the this title and people remember Jason Tatum because he's already Close enough to that level where you be like, okay The playoffs can turn him into a legitimate Carrier of a team. Yeah, so Chris stops was 14

Jason Tatum was 15 and then Jalen Brown was 80 Derek White was 22. So you need Chris stops back. You need Chris. I'm sorry again I'm not, I think you guys are going to still kill the Cavs. I think you're still in the East. It was more of a bigger question. And again, my answer is yeah. But at least I don't know, he just doesn't. He took two shots in the fourth. He like, he like fades in and out. Well I mean, but you guys, what was 10-point game going in the fourth more than that I think you guys got blown out in the fourth like and he just has

Like he's averaging he's averaging five points less in the playoffs than he did in the season That can't this is when like Jalen Brunson is Scoring 40 a night. I have six players. Okay. He's got to step up, but yeah No, I think that I think that actually my slander that goes on for what Jason Tatum Where's there's been slander? I've asked question. No, just just online and in the media. I think he's an incredible player We're online and in the media. We're both those. Yeah So what do you say about Joel Embiid when these conversations happen? Well, Joel and that was like doesn't make it this I was like Matt. Oh, yeah

We all love we all love coming in second, right? Max Max was underneath the wrestling ring there and he just popped out with a steel chair Actually max Philadelphia according to Hank Philadelphia sports is they've had nothing but success for the last two years. Correct. Nothing but success Hank tonight when the fourth I bet you would Jason Tatum's played like 700 more playoff games than Embiid at this point. And he's probably like two years younger.

He's very good. But this is the time that we have to do this, Hank. You suffer a. Yeah, no. It's fine. They lost. They were down 12 going into the fourth quarter. That's still a game.

That's still a game. Like you should, that's a game that you can still win. For sure. Yeah, it was a bad game. I think you guys just have these bad games and you're gonna be fine. But I just, that was a question that I just asked because I feel like half the time I watch him,

I'm like, I expect him to be the best player on the court. And there's been, I don't know when he's been the best player on the court in these playoffs. Jalen Brown's been phenomenal for some games. Derrick White's been insane. Donovan Mitchell was great tonight. Donovan Mitchell's had games, you know, last series that he was out of this world. Like, when is he? I mean, but it's happened in the past four, five, six years. It's happened many times.

Okay. You know what this sounds like? This sounds like on, uh, on Inside the NBA. Game seven. It's six years last year. True. It sounds like, uh, it sounds like on Turner when game seven Shaq like directly calls out a player and gives a personal challenge. Sounds like big cat is giving a personal challenge. Step up. I'm fine. Yeah. You're not wrong that this playoffs he hasn't been, you know, super, super superstar level. He's got to step up. And again, you're not in trouble. You're not in trouble. Or that if he plays like this in the finals,

I think you might be in a lot of trouble Agreed that's when you need him to step up and be like no, I'm also you know one of these guys Yeah, and if there's one knock against them, it would be that he didn't really step up against warriors, but that Experience he was 19 basically Okay, so prediction for Saturday night win by 33 33. all right on track that's No, they still won't be on track. No if they won by 33, they're bad. I have to win by 33

That was mean. It's true. You couldn't do 25 We're not even taking into account any of the losses that they have that doesn't factor. Oh, he's saying No Factor oh he's gonna know What if they win each Hank's saying so can I win the next three games by 33 each they'll win by a hundred so okay? Well, what did I say in the beginning point differential be under plus yes, so right now. It's one yes, but they Know I don't like what you're doing. I know exactly I know exactly what I just I 30 I didn't I didn't realize that it's 60 I didn't realize that the points scored against you in losses didn't count. Do you not, point differential, do you know what that means? In metrics.

Got it. You don't understand the fact that right now you guys are up by one point. Correct. So, yes, I'm aware of this. But, if the series goes seven games, then the Cavaliers could win and they could they could have a ten-point win They could have an eight-point win a twenty-point win and then you don't get the hundred I'm not I'm not bad at math got it. How does that not make sense to you? No, that makes it I'm I think it's gonna be three wins thirty. Yeah, you're saying three ways by 33

Just to make it make it nice and even yeah, I'm saying you gotta do better than that No, three wins by 33 would make it nice and even no, I guess a little you know You want an extra hundred and ones? Yeah, that's not me. Well, yeah, you know, you got an extra one Alright so Would you say would you would you say we should bet on the Celtics on Saturday night? I'm not you know spreads. I'm not, spreads, I'm not worried about spreads. We're gonna beat them by 33. Oh yeah, we should ask our correspondent when the Sixers go out of the playoffs, Max

does become Boston Max. Max, what do you think about the Celtics right now? I mean it's game two, who gives a fuck about the Cavs? Everyone's crying about nothing, nothing where the Boston Celtics We're gonna beat the fuck out of them the next game Beat the fuck out of them again beat the fuck out of them again And then the Pacers and Knicks are both gonna be dead by the time they come us That's a clean sweep clean sweep, and then who cares about the West Max we think about your Bruins

Thing about hockey is I know a lot about hockey and I know that my Bruins are gonna win in five Yeah, five Game to city not a game. I like that. This is Massachusetts. Yeah, not a game to city needs to be on a quote card Okay other games we got to talk about the Pacers in the Knicks. How many how many Things did Rick Carlisle submit to the NBA? I think 78. I think after the game was over, Rick Carlisle, I believe it was in the first two games. Yeah. But there are 78 fouls that were either incorrectly called, not called at all, or just blown by the refs in some circumstance. I don't know

if he included the phantom double dribble because that was okay. He definitely included. All right. I'm going to stand up a little bit for Rick Carlisle. If my team is playing a game and there's a flag and you the whistles blown or there's a flag on the field to me, that's been called already. And if you pick it up or you take the whistle back, then you fucked me over. Yeah. By going back on your incorrect call. Correct. Now, it was not a good call. He very clearly didn't touch the ball with two hands. So it never should have been called in the first place.

Ended up being, I think, a fair outcome to the play. But as a fan or a coach or a player on one of those teams, once you do that, it's going to really piss me off if you take it back. Yeah. Two things can be true. The Pacers have had a bad whistle and they got screwed. I mean, game one that we talked about on Wednesday, that game one kickball call sucked. They've gotten a bad whistle. Rick Carlisle is being a gigantic baby.

Dude, play T.J. McConnell more. Keep him in the game. He was the guy who was making things happen. He played phenomenal and then he took him out for the last seven minutes. You blew a double digit lead. You gave up 130 points to Nick's team that has like no one left. Start maybe pointing the finger at yourself and not, oh, they don't like small market teams.

Small market teams should have been the excuse after at least the third loss. And you gotta wait on that because especially his whole case is it's Indiana against New York City. The NBA wants the Knicks to advance. I don't know if he's seen the Knicks in the playoffs ever. But the NBA doesn't do a very good job of advancing the Knicks. If that's been their agenda

They've been really really bad at executing that is correct. That was uh, yeah, I mean it's I'm fine with like a coach trying to basically make a statement to get the refs to maybe give them a better whistle but the Small market thing like dude, come on and also like you have made some mistakes in the series that have cost your team. You should have won at least one of these games. You didn't. You're still in this series because the other side of it, the Knicks, are essentially the Knight from Monty Python. So Mitchell Robinson's out for the rest of the playoffs. OG is out for at least game three, but it feels like more. Jalen Brunson missed the entire second quarter, which credit to the TNT crew for really giving us great timely

updates when the best player in the series just wasn't there for a quarter. They had to talk about Reggie Miller and how Reggie Miller used to play against the Knicks too. That was wild. It was very crazy because I was watching the game and I was like, what's Jalen doing? Where is he? Is he taking a break? And then I was like, wait, no Tibbs is the coach there's no chance that no brain is taking a break and Just nothing happened until like right before halftime and then they went back We saw the replay the replay was no help either. No, I don't know you like tweaked his foot or something

I thought I was growing then it was foot. Yeah, but he came back and I mean he was he's a tough motherfucker Yeah, I mean he was he did what he's been doing all these playoffs he's he's was like owned the game late and he's so much fun to watch and He's just incredible and he is I've had some Knicks fans asked me. Yes He is Anthony Edwards and Jalen Brunson are now officially emerging superstars Like they I still think you have to do it for a couple years Or maybe one more year because they all both did it last year too but they're absolutely emerging superstars and all over the place but I I don't

know what the Knicks do now they don't have they're just losing guys left and right they've got what like seven guys now that Josh Hart I think I think tips you just have to like have Josh Hart play two positions at once that guy just never comes out You can do it He's a fucking dog and that was a great moment at the end when he when he when he went up to the mic and was Like hey, I think they're saying fuck you to Reggie Miller. Yeah, that was really good. That was great Reggie I mean, why did they fly him in for that game? I think his spike Lee asked for it. That sucked Yeah, there's no need for him to be there

Just brainstorming out loud. But yeah, that was crazy. They just didn't give us an update on the most important player in the series for an entire quarter. So he's questionable right now. He's questionable. They don't know if he's going to play. My guess is that he's going to try to play and that Tibbs will be like, please try to play.

But that seems like one of those injuries that's going to get worse the day after you heard it than it yes at the time and this we're getting also to a point where I think and I've seen Max he's starting to kind of be like the the Sixers Nick series is over now. It's my Villanova guys Like the only guys they have left are Jalen Brunson Devenchenzo and Josh Hart They're just gonna try to win this title with just Nova. Yeah. Well, that's what they've been saying. It's like they're still like best friends Yeah, and it all goes back to Villanova Max. This would be a championship. It would for Philadelphia I think I think Kyle Neptune would be you'd have to give him a contract extension Disagree, okay, but I do think that what's going on in New York right now

Only further cements that Jay Wright's the best college basketball coach of all time. Okay. Yeah, that's appropriate. Okay. He's going to be like, you know how Coach Cal had like all those jerseys of his first round picks in the basement? Like that's going, this Knicks team, if they do happen to win a championship at some point,

Coach Wright is definitely going to have like championship banners of this Knicks team hanging up if he ever gets back into coaching. Were we a curse to the city of New York? We lived there for seven years and now they're on the precipice of having both teams in the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah. And you said it from day one Hank, you just wanted them to be good so that you'd have something to like vibe off of. Yeah and we might, I mean mean if it was maybe be getting Boston Boston New York New York New York yeah which is crazy I mean you might just have to go live there yeah for a couple days but yeah I I think the

Pacers will probably win on Friday night just based off Friday or Saturday I think it's Friday I think it's Friday I believe I hate what I'm gonna these weird schedules were double-headed tomorrow Yeah, but where the nuggets play another day and Friday and then everyone else is still going every two days Yeah, that's weird. I think the I think the Pacers will get a good whistle. I think with the Knicks injuries the Pacers will win game three, but The Knicks are like it's crazy what they're doing because they just keep losing guys and they just keep fighting harder than everyone keep offensive rebounding. Jalen Brunson keeps being better and better. It's nuts. I could see them continuing to just do this. Yeah. And have everybody be like, how the

fuck is this happening? It's fun to watch. And the Mecca is crazy. It's buzzing. It is buzzing. And then the last NBA game we had was the Mavs evening the series 1-1, Luca on one foot on no feet. No feet, no arms. Again. No arms, no teeth either. Yeah. Had an awesome game pretty close to a triple double, 29-10

and 7. And it was also the Tim Hardaway game and the PJ Washington game, because both those guys were lights out It's him Hardaway is really good. I'm also seven for eleven from three also real quick credit to Hubie Brown Yeah, like give a shout out to Hubie Brown think about Hubie Brown positive thoughts towards Hubie The dude is 90 years old and nothing he he's beloved. Nobody is out there being like Hubie needs to get off the air. He's mixing stuff up Nobody is out there being like, Huey needs to get off the air, he's mixing stuff up.

Huey is sharp as ever. The game started at what, 8.30 tonight, 8.30 Central? Huey probably wakes up at like 6 p.m. Goes to the game, goes home, goes to bed, like I don't know, four in the morning. You know how old people are, he gets the kind of little breakfast at like 7 p.m. But Huey's absolutely crushing it.

Yeah, he's, I mean, he's a revelation when you compare it to flying Reggie Miller in. Yeah, just fly Hubie Brown around. Yeah, it will be, I mean, I thought this series was gonna be a dog fight back and forth, so I'm not surprised the Mavs won this game. And Luca, I will see, Luca's injured, Luca also likes to let you know he's injured. Oh yeah, well. Luca also likes to let you know he's injured.

Oh yeah. Well, he really likes to let us know he's injured. Because even when he's not injured, he's injured. Right. Because maybe you'll get like a really late call. He might lead the league and hit a big shot limp. Yeah, no, he yells, he does- He might be the Big Ben of the NBA.

He might be. He could be. He does two things. He'll like pretend that he's injured after he makes a shot or he'll, he'll get mad at the ref after he makes a wide open shot where nobody came close to touching him. And he's still mad about something from like five plays ago at that same ref. Right. I'll scream at the, he's always angry about something. Yeah. You could actually get Luca cause yeah, you're right. Like when

he yells at a ref, his injury goes away. Yeah. So when he's yelling at a ref the ref needs to be like are you injured or you yelling at me? Are you mad? It's like he it's like patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time Yeah, can't be both right and it's like it's like when my kids are like when they don't want to eat their dinner They're like my tummy hurts. I'm like great. We won't have dessert and they're like no my tummy doesn't hurt anymore Yep, that's what Luca's doing when you yell at a ref. It's like so your leg doesn't hurt. No, no, it still hurts Yeah, there was blood on his one of his sleeves tonight on his ref, he's like, so your leg doesn't hurt? No, no, it still hurts. Yeah, and there was blood on one of his sleeves tonight on his leg. He's being extra.

He's so good when he's being extra. What he was doing a really good job of was just staring down at the blood on his leg all the time to make sure everybody knew that there was blood on his leg. Yeah. What shirt did they wear in the first game? Was it white? I think it was a combo.

I think some of it was different. I didn't like the blue tonight. Yeah, it was all blue. It kind of looked like it was just seats well And also that's the Mavs colors too. Yeah, I guess they're they have white as well Yeah, but it to the untrained eye from a distance across a big room It looked like it was just empty seats there, but I'm sure was loud. This series is gonna be very fun Should we talk a little hockey the Rangers are an absolute wagon. They're up 3-0 against the Hurricanes we talk a little hockey? The Rangers are an absolute wagon. They're up 3-0 against the Hurricanes. In the hockey world, the Hurricanes, I think, are the big-time fraud alert team

because every year they're, the advanced analytics love them and they just do this. So it looks, I mean, the Rangers haven't lost in these playoffs. So you actually, did you guys go to overtime in any of your games? No. Did we? No, I don't think so. I was going to say maybe you will lose less. We, yeah, on aggregate, but they went to overtime. Yeah.

Yeah, no. I was trying to spin zone. The Capitals stink. Don't patronize the Capitals. I'm not trying to patronize them. They're a bad team. The Rangers, 7-0. Last time they were 7-0, won the Stanley Cup.

94. 94. Feels like 94. Feels like 94. Mark Messier. OJ in the news for death again. Yeah. Yeah. And the and Pavel Bure in the Canucks and those those Canucks uniforms rocked. Yeah. They were like bad but awesome. Yeah. That was it. That was a very fun game. Yeah. So. The Vancouver crowd. They. Yeah. Love their hockey. Yeah. Oh, that that. Yeah. That Vancouver Oilers game. I have to admit I did fall asleep and I was shocked at the score because it felt like the Oilers had that game.

And even in the first period, it was very workman-like. Oilers get a power play, they score. Okay, we're off and running. Everything's good. And the Canucks just, period of the week. Period of the week was just, period of the week. Period of the week was the third period of that. To come back and win that game. That's my nominee. The third period. Absolutely.

That was awesome. So I mean, the Canucks, Biz told us, like, Canucks kind of have no business, like they, or not no business, but they didn't have the expectations of being this team this year, and they just keep getting, they keep finding a way. Yeah, hand credit to your Bruins, though,

for scrapping it up a little bit. That was an awesome fight. It was a good, well, yeah, he got punched right in his head. Well, he got cheap shot. I was going to say that Pasta taking that fight was awesome. Awesome. Because he's not a fighter. Nope.

And Kachuck is like a badass. Pasta asked, like, you asked the coach for permission. Yeah. Well, no, I don't think he asked for permission. I think he told him he was doing it and you could see the coach be like, Oh, okay. You want to do this? Go ahead. That's what you should absolutely do in a game where you get your teeth kicked in the playoffs. You should always get into a fight at the end of it. Yeah.

Yeah. The Swimmin' Magic wore off a little bit, but he was, you know, unconscious before that. So it was, you know, water always finds its level, but it'll be a big bounce back I'm interested to see the bounce back tonight. So Posse you got it. You got to load up on some pasta props Yeah, did did Kichucks not getting a suspension or anything right that was a cheap shot at the end Yeah, like that. I think the first you hit him on the way down the well I think the one then hit him again. I think they hit on the way down was like borderline Okay, because they're still fighting but the one when he was all the way down. It's like come on. Yeah, you can't do that

Yeah, don't do that And then the the Stars win they beat the avalanche. I think we got some good series going except for the Rangers hurricanes That's over. I did not watch any of the Stars avalanche tonight, but in theory, I know that's an electric series So next time we have Bizzar win on on, I'll just be like, what a great series that was. Tell us how to great team. You tell us how great that series is. Okay, I had some rapid fire things if you guys are down for. Yeah, I got one thing too. You go. Okay. The NFL is king. Yes. Is this a rapid fire thing? No. Okay. The NFL is king. They're doing Christmas games again this year. That's not the news.

The news is that it looks like they're going to be maybe two games all the Christmas Day games on Netflix mm-hmm, which is interesting because Netflix has never broadcast an NFL game before correct I don't know who the answer is going to be is Netflix gonna have their own announcing crew You said maybe Brady are they gonna rent Tom Brady for a day? And then he'll go on Sunday and work at Fox? Continue the roast? Yeah, continue the roast.

You know what? Here's the thing that should really piss the NBA off about this. And the NFL can do whatever the fuck they want and they're going to dominate the NBA ratings. Not only are they taking away Christmas Day from the NBA, They're also taking away the ability of people to comfortably change the channel to the NBA games Correct during commercial break quarter breaks and halftime because signing out of Netflix Turning on to cable if you're watching on cable or to a different streaming app Yep, such a pain in the dick to do that

and so they're taking away even the the pity ratings that you would get for like a quick two minute check in on the NBA Christmas games. And remember Christmas is on a Wednesday this year and the NFL has had previously said they weren't going to touch like middle of the week Christmas day. Remember last year they were like, because there is a rule there, they don't do Friday night games because of high school football. But last year they're like, fuck there is a rule, they don't do Friday night games because of high school football. But last year they're like, fuck it, we'll do a Friday afternoon game, Black Friday. Now it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter when the game's gonna be, they're gonna play it. And we'll show up. Yeah. We're gonna watch it. Do you think there's a chance any of our teams are in it? On Christmas? Yeah. How many games are there?

I mean, our teams... The Axe probably has the best chance. They do love scheduling the Bears in primetime. And for a national audience. They love doing that. I think we might get a primetime game... Again? I think we actually all might get primetime games against each other. Because of the draft.

Oh, because of the rookies? Yeah. Are we playing each other again? Yeah, the Bears and the Patriots are that weird, like added game. You know how we played each other like, I know with the 17 game season, it's you play a whole division and there's one added from the other conference. And for some reason we drew you. Uh, but and then we played again, we're gonna play again. I hope it's Thursday night, as is tradition. Tattoo bet, tattoo bet, run it back. Yep. We're gonna play again. I hope it's Thursday night as is tradition tattoo bet tattoo bet run it back

Yep, they're probably gonna do it's later on the season so it it might even be a divisional game What oh yeah? Yeah, cuz it's Christmas Day. Yeah, yeah, cuz they had the ratings with the Raiders and the Chiefs last year Yeah, how many games are there two or three? I'm not sure. Hey, give us a whole I heard the perm bet thing brought up. I just want to say for the record, and I've said this a few times, I wanted to do the perm bet during the live stream. I agree. Put memes in charge of that. Was it last year? Yeah, put memes in charge of that one. And memes like, okay, I'll do it. And then he told me like two days after I told him to do that, he's like, yeah, I don't know if we're going to be able to get the person to come out.

So I didn't have enough time to schedule the person I would do a perm If somebody else if somebody max good good accountability if max or meme schedules the perm I will absolutely do it love that but now we have to like make it a moment though Like it would be boring if we just did in the middle of summer. It has to be during football season. I agree. Yeah During it like Super Bowl. Yeah, we should wait We should wait I'm down and do it whenever yeah We have to do dingers only soon. Oh, yeah baseball. I will do it for July 4th. Yeah Yeah, okay ready for my rapid-fire. Yep

first up Shadow Colin Coward, we don't really like him But credit to him for going backwards hat coach take with JJ Reddick and saying JJ Reddick could not be a coach because he's wearing a backwards hat. Yeah. Good. Keep fucking that chicken. He said, I mean, I just, I, once we got to the coaches, by the way, JJ Reddick is going to be the next coach at Lakers, right? LeBron is really defend. He, LeBron defended JJ Reddick against Colin Coward. Yeah, it feels like he could be. It feels like JJ is the hot name out there. And this is based off no information, but I'm more basing off just seeing LeBron defending,

because LeBron doesn't interact with Colin Coward. Yeah, and you know what? When we asked JJ when he was on the show how he would feel about coaching the Lakers, he said they have a coach he didn't say he didn't really answer the question they have a coach that leads me my next rapid-fire it sucks to have to coach now sucks in a relative term because these guys make millions of dollars and they get paid to not work but Frank Vogel got fired from the Suns today Darvin Ham got fired last week that's's gotta be the worst job in sports. As a head coach right now is signing up

to coach a super team because no matter what happens, it's never the players fault, it's always the coach's fault. Yeah, I think the trick is to coach a super team, but it's when they're in their late 20s, early 30s. Yeah. If you get older superstars that are joining up to form a super team. Also Bradley Beal, I don't know, can are joining up to form a super team also Bradley Beal

I don't know. Can you call the the Suns a super team? Well, they tried to they tried I have like the Eagles when they were super yeah, it was an attempted super team, but dream Oh, yeah dream team is this attempted big three. I just like Darvin Hammond was was not a great coach Frank Vogel has a championship Maybe wasn't a great coach for the Suns. He had a- It doesn't matter. He had a decent regular season.

Right, but it doesn't matter because if you don't, if you flame out in the playoffs with one of these teams with a big three or a super team, you are the fall guy every single time. It's never the players. Do you think maybe Pat Riley is a secret genius and that's why when the heat Everyone was saying like Pat Riley is gonna come down and take over the job from spolstra

Yeah, was he a genius by just being like I'm gonna I'm gonna let this guy coach the team Yeah, so that way he'll be fired. I won't have to fire myself and spo is just he's one of the best coaches But yeah, I don't know like what if if the Lakers offered spo 15 million dollars a year, he'd probably have to take it because it'd be $15 million a year, but I think he would think twice being like, if we don't win a championship, I'm the only guy who's going to get played. How much do you think he gets paid? I don't know what NBA coaches, like, he probably gets like seven or eight? I don't know.

I'm doing California tax math right now compared to Florida. Oh, good point. Yeah. Good point. It'd probably have to be closer to 17 closer to 17 have to deal with Gavin Newsom on a regular basis You have to go to French Laundry with him. Mm-hmm. Let me see Eric's bolster a salary Eric's bolster a salary. Oh, he already makes 15 million a year. Oh, yeah, he's oh, so he's gonna need like I was way off He's gonna need like 23 15 million a year. He's gonna need like 23. 15 million a year, he deserves it. Yep. All right, so what if it was the, yeah, so if they offered him 30,

Pop is number one at 16. Okay, yeah, your point is valid, which is like if you have old superstars that are uniting with each other and they still have the championship expectations and they've never played together and they've had long careers before trying to make this team work,

you're kind of signing up on your own death warrant right there. Like if you don't at least get to a championship, there's a chance you could be fired. Yeah, right. The next rapid fire thing, we should have talked about it with the Celtics, but that was some peak, peak sports talk radio

with Tony Maz. Felger Maz saying. Kings. You saw this clip, PFT? I did not see this one. It was one of the greatest sports radio moments. And when I say greatest, the worst. He said that if the Celtics win the championship this year,

doesn't it feel a little hollow because there's not really any good teams? It's a good point. I hadn't thought about that. All time take. That was a we don't have anything to talk about take. No, they're all time contrarians. Hey, quick question for you.

If they win the championship this year, doesn't it feel a little bit hollow? No. Because the East is so bad? No. OK. Yeah. I'd say it's a quick no.

So did they actually have a discussion about that? Yeah. I saw a 30-second clip. But yeah, he was like, Felger was like, no, it's the NBA, dude. And he's like, well, why don't they just play a YMCA team and call it a championship? They're the number one show in town. It's crazy.

They just have riled up the city of Boston for the last 15 We're not considering is like what if X Patriots red Sox? What if they only played against like girls teams in high school and for some reason that's the NBA schedule. Yeah win Hollow think about it. But yeah, what's the difference between that and this? I just I just love when sports talk radio guys are just like, you know what, let's just fucking we have nothing really to talk about. Let's just say that this championship doesn't that it doesn't exist yet doesn't count if it does exist. This is what's so funny about Boston's they've won so many things that they're already like figuring out reasons to not get super excited about the next championship. It was crazy. All right. My next one was did

you guys see the new iPad Pro? No People are very mad because the iPad Pro commercial it's it's basically it looks like Fuck I'm losing my words The smash thing that they use where they smash things the compactor. Yeah, so it's pneumatic press. Yeah, there it is pneumatic press So it's iPad pros and pneumatic press and it's pressing down on like all these instruments like a piano or trumpet Because it fits all that in the iPad Pro and people are very upset. We're gonna get mad They're like, oh, so we're just throwing away like thousands of years of cultural like meaningful things for fucking technology and then the wait then the the iPad Pro does not get crushed by it No, no, it all goes into the iPad Pro. Oh all that shit gets combined

I thought you were gonna say people are getting upset because people love watching those press videos Oh, I do too because it's like therapeutic. Yes to see watch things get crushed And if the iPad doesn't get crushed people like what the fuck you got across the iPad. Yeah, no, they're like Tim Cook way to way to ruin the world with your new sleek iPad Pro. I just laughed at it because it was a commercial. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of bad stuff that goes into that too. It's a commercial.

You really wanna talk about everything that's happened. Yeah, I wish it would've been cool if they had just made that, maybe the Out of Order guys will do it, where it's just like the iPad Pro crushing like gambling apps, sites do like look you got it all right here everything in there yeah all your streaming services right here all right next rapid fire topic Craig Doyle suspended saw that yeah loved it why would

happen good call do you like that good call hey yeah you like that I like it yeah do do that a little bit more and I'll treat you nice will be just fine yeah fine. Yeah. The other clip is so funny from that press conference too. When he talks to the coach, he's like, so you got the keys to that. Yeah, to that. What are you going to do about that? A lot of journalists were actually being like, that's an overreaction to suspend him. I just like it because Greg Doyle's a scold and him getting suspended for this is one of the funniest ways to get suspended. Hey, why did you get suspended from covering one of the most popular athletes in sports right now? Well, I did the heart signal tour and I was really creepy.

No, it's just like he got suspended for being a creep. I don't. So here's what's bad about suspending him. At some point, he's going to come back from suspension. Correct. And then he is going to have to apologize to Caitlin Clark and he is going to do that in the most creepy way possible Yeah, it actually sucks for Caitlin Clark. Yes, like Caitlin Clark probably doesn't want him suspended Just wants him sitting in the back of the newsroom and just not even asking questions anymore because now when he does come back It's a whole nother story where she has to accept his apology, all that bullshit. What she should do is say like he I don't want him in the room. Yeah. And then the indie star will, they'll have to say, okay, because she's the biggest sports. She's a story in town right now. Yeah, it's like she is she is the face of women's sports across the world. And so if they just tell him no, you can't get because if he does come back, he He's going to try to do like he's going to try to get cute with his apology Yeah, of course. He's gonna say something that's gonna make it worse

She's gonna feel like she has to accept his apology because she probably just doesn't want to deal with this shit anymore And then it's gonna be a very weird dynamic. So just don't don't let him around the fever He should he should actually not be suspended He should just have to go to every game with a t-shirt that says, I'm not a creep, but I ask creepy questions. They should just make a Doyle rule, which is not allowed to talk to women. Yeah. Don't talk to women, Greg. Talk to women. Well, how would he have found out that he was wrong?

He already talked to the women in his life. Right. He talked to them. Just don't talk to women as part of your job. Yeah, ever. OK, last one. This one is probably the biggest one. We have to come to the defense of one of Max's heroes. Max, I assume you've seen this? Shady McCoy?

No. That's one of your heroes? Chip Kelly? No. Shady McCoy, yeah. And we have to come to his defense because we've been there. No. That's one of your heroes? Chip Kelly? I don't know. Shady McCoy, yeah. And we have to come to his defense because we've been there. Jason Kelsey is fighting a war online against horse Twitter because he implied that Secretariat

might have done steroids. And if everyone, for a long time, AWLs, you remember this for new ones, welcome. We almost got canceled by horse Twitter in 2016 because we called Nyquist a fucking pussy ass bitch for not running in the Belmont. Yes, and we said that he was getting fat, and that's why he didn't run, he looked like Eddie Lacey. And then, I'm just getting word now

that there may have been some Photoshop's done of Nyquist making him look super overweight. Yeah. To the point where Nyquist got bullied off Twitter. Yes. He deactivated his little horse Twitter account. We did that. So we did that.

We know what you're going through. I still believe in the First Amendment. Yeah. When it comes to insinuating and slandering horses. Yeah. So Jason, speak your truth. Yeah. It's just a very funny controversy to get in where he just was like, yeah, they

did a lot of steroids in the 70s and his heart was three times bigger. That feels like steroids and people are mad. People are very mad. I mean, some people still have Secretary posters on their wall. Listen, Secretary is the greatest athlete who ever lived. Correct. Uh, it was funny how he apologized on Twitter too, because he, he gave like a, an emotional apology being like, I'm sorry for making accusations towards this horse. Yeah. And dead for four. It's ridiculous. Yeah. It's a ridiculous controversy. We stand with you, Jason Kelsey. It's ridiculous. We're talking about a horse and I love horses. I love betting on horses,

but saying secretary did steroids should not ruin anyone's day. You know what? I'm going, I'm going to go one further than Jason Kelsey. I will say they should dig up secretariat's body and test them, drug test them, drug test them. Yep. Oh wait. It's the only record in sports that has never been broken in terms of like speed or power for all these years. Every other sport across the entire planet has gotten better since the 1970s. And we're saying horse racing is the one that hasn't. Making great points. Think about it. Dig that horse up. Making great points. Also, Max, since I saw this trending, and I was like, let me see what's going on here, and I went to Jason Kelsey's page, and I think he recently just followed me.

Really? Yes. He follows 48 people. That rocks. So, you're one step away. I knew that would excite Max. Max, it sounds so creepy right now. No, no, that's just cool.

I did message him. I was like, don't apologize. We have your back. I'm gonna wait to tell him that we have a producer that would literally die for him. I think that's more of like a month or two down the line. Don't embarrass me. Well, do you not want me to say that? I don't know.

Oh wait, he follows me too. There we go. Max, does he follow you? Oh wait he follows me too there. We go max. Does he follow you? No, he follows me too wait do you guys know he doesn't he does not follow Follow him back yeah falls falls. He followed you first. Yeah Same with me. That's so cool. I was like yeah, don't fall Even tell him not to follow what the hell no don't it don't don't even bring me up. This is this is like hey our producer max. He's a real big horse fan He was very upset with yeah said about secretary for the record confirmed doesn't follow me. I just shit

All right. Yeah, so maybe me and PFT needs to just hit him on like just double strike being like hey Could you quickly follow this guy? I would be out don't't embarrass me. Max, here's how much I love you. I would trade. If he's trying to keep it at 48, take me off. Yeah, me too. Put Max in. Well, no, wait, what if we both get taken off? It's an empty threat.

He's got to follow Mr. Pair, too. Empty promise. Yeah. You know two guys who have a direct line to Jason Kelsey. No, that's cool. That's sick for you guys. It is sick. You know what?

I'm not going to tell them to follow Max. I'm going to actually say, Max is so crazy in love with you that he has a can of soup that he refuses to eat because your face is on it. That's probably better, right? Our producer, Max, wears your face on his shirt like 90% and he's kind of on his own face. Yeah Yeah, yes, he wants to be you that is correct or at least all side you you want to remake No, I'm yeah max not like that

I meant like you want to you want to look like you want your skin to look inside and out I would like to be like Jason Kelsey if that makes sense. But would you be inside him if offered? No. No. Stop this. No, but Max, if we could take- You're already doing this with the other Kelsey. If we could take your brain right now-

No, I didn't say- No. And put it in Jason Kelsey's body, and then you would just walk around with your brain, but now you are Jason Kelsey, would you do it? For like a day. I'll say it. You know what? I'll say it. You know what I'll say it I don't believe that Max is actually a fan of Jason Kelsey until I see video proof of Jason Kelsey inside of Max. Yeah Yeah

That's fair that's fair. We're gonna get on fault so yeah, this is bullshit guys. You're ruining this We've met him before we've hung out with that. That's that's that also sucks And we were supposed to hang out in the summer. I know beer Olympics, which we will not we'll know I don't want to say we will not I don't think we're backing out. We can't back out I don't think we are going to. No, I don't think we're probably not gonna back out of it. Will we? I don't know Can we? No We're definitely we're definitely maybe not gonna back out. It's gonna be so hot in Vegas. Yeah. It's like, it's during the week.

And we're kinda closer with Jason Kelsey now than we are with Will and Taylor, and they backed out. Yeah, but I mean, we told them that we'd do it when they told us it was different days. Yeah, we can't back out right Hank Actually we we can't we can't no we won't no we can Nah, no, I will be there no matter what yeah We can't we're gonna golf. Yeah, we're gonna golf. We're gonna golf. It's gonna be so hot

It's gonna be so hot. We're gonna golf it at four in the morning. We'll be fine I never thought it would be this hard to get us out to Vegas to gamble in a casino where you literally can't lose well, I think the part where you and I have to compete against a bunch of NFL offensive lineman well not your drink not chasing Kelsey true He's not really an NFL offensive lineman. He's more just good friends of ours. Yeah, my buddy Yeah, I'm buddy JK and soon to be inside of max. Yeah, he was on stage at a Mount Joy concert I was showing PFT. That was cool. That was all you were just showing you were showing PFT pictures of Jason No, he was it was video played a video

You know those people that are in the crowd during rock shows? They have their phones out and they're recording it and they're like, what are these people recording it for? Are they going to go back and watch it later? No, they're recording it so they can get posted online and then Max can show me his phone of somebody doing that. So Max, you basically did like, here you want to see a picture of my kids, but it was Jason Kelsey at a concert?

It was cool. Well, I asked BFT if he was a Mount Joy fan. Also love Mount Joy. Mount Joy rocks. Yeah. Good band. And Jason Kelsey approved. And Jason Kelsey approved.

Which means us approved too. Us approved as well. The thing about us, we have so much in common with Jason. That's right. That's a fact. Okay. Good opening to the show. We have Kendrick Perkins.

Awesome interview with Perk. And then we have Firefest. Four Way, because Memes and Jake are both out. So Max chips into FireFest and Hank, Hank is in one. He's in a pickle. He's in a pickle on FireFest. So let's kick it to ourselves with Kendrick Perkins. Okay, before we get to Kendrick Perkins, a quick word from our friends at Uber Eats.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. He is an NBA champion. You can see him on ESPN all the time. He's got some spicy takes. we want to get to talk some NBA playoffs. It is Kendrick Perkins perk Great to have you on We're watching the Celtics fourth quarter right now, so we will have some questions about this game after the game But I wanted to start With the series that everyone's gonna watch we're gonna air this obviously on Friday Everyone's gonna watch tonight as they're listening to this, the Nuggets and the Wolves. And you are the guy who said that Anthony Edwards reminds you of Michael Jordan. I think it was you and Pat Bev. But what, when you watch this

Wolves team, are like, has it clicked like, Hey, this team can win it all. Like the way they're playing and they're so young and hungry. What, what are you seeing? Well, well one appreciate you fellas for having me on. Yeah, I'll continue to to do a great job because that's exactly what y'all doing there. And y'all doing it your way. That's first thing first. Thank you. Thank you. When I look at the Minnesota Timberwolves, the number one thing that pokes out to me is the togetherness. The number two thing is they have a bunch of dogs, okay?

And it's led by Anthony Edwards. And I said this, you know, in March, that when it comes to the young up and coming superstars, I've never seen a leader like him, and he's the best young leader in the game of basketball. And so when you look at their personnel, right, everybody was wondering last year, could Carl Anthony Townsend, Rudy Goldberg,

can they coexist? The answer is hell yeah, because cats could, you know, stretch the floor. So when I'm looking at their perimeter defense, before I even address the interior, I'm looking at an old school Mike Conley, who this year this season He was holding his opponents to 31

He was 31st in the league for his opponent field goal percentage Jay McDaniels He was fourth in the league opponent field goal percentage Anthony Edwards He was 10th in the league opponent field goal percentage Then you have Rudy down there who's ready to swat everything. So when I'm looking at this team, I'm like, they don't give a damn who you are. And when I started to watch the series against the Phoenix Suns, and I'm watching Rudy and Carl Anthony Towns

go at Kevin Durant on the perimeter and slide those puppies, and they switching out on the pick and rolls, I'm like, hold on Hold on Jimmy Butler couldn't pull this out of car Anthony Towns when he was in Minnesota and Donovan Mitchell couldn't pull This out of Rudy go Rudy go bird. So I'm thinking about it. I'm like man This team is serious. Yeah, then they get to the defending champs and they kick in their ass Yeah, and the game two and they're champs and they kicking their ass. And the game two, real talk,

game two was probably one of the greatest performances defensively that I've ever seen in my damn life. It was a clinic. It was a clinic. I love the way you say dogs. I love the way you say dog. And I love the way you say gober. Like he's ice cold.

Yeah, it's really gober. Yeah, it's really go bar. Yeah Yeah, yeah So what it was a clinic so what if you're the Nuggets, what do they do? Like what do you if you're in that locker room? What is said after game two and what's the fix? It's nothing that you can't say either you got to end you or you don't I know Michael Michael Malone, he said something the other day, I think it was yesterday that he said, hey, we the defending champs and I need guys in this locker room who gonna believe and go down to Minnesota and get a game three. Well, it's easier

to say it than done when you're dealing with a team that don't give a damn, right? And Anthony L was followed up and he said, we know they're going to come in and give us their best punch, but guess what? We got a punch back. And when you have that type of confidence, it's just on a different level. I don't know if there's anything they can do. Uh, uh, Murray is not a hundred percent. Jamal Murray is not a hundred percent.

He's dealing with injuries. That's a bad, that's bad time., especially when you face a McDaniels. Jokic, he's shooting 42% from the field against Minnesota. Carl Anthony Towns, Rudy, and Nasri, they ain't going nowhere. So I don't know what else they can do. Just think how important Jeff Green and Bruce Brown was to this team last year. They don't going nowhere. So I don't know what else they can do. Just think how important Jeff Green and Bruce Brown was to this team last year. They don't have them.

Yeah. Yeah. And so with the Nuggets, you said there's not a lot that they can do. The matchups are an issue for them, and especially how they're making Jokic play in places. He's a little bit uncomfortable. I saw you, you referred to them. I don't know if you said that they were babies, the Nuggets, the B word, or if you said they were playing like babies or acting like babies, but have the T-wolves turned the nuggets into babies?

No no no I said so this is this is what I said I said the T-wolves got them crying like babies okay and what I what I said was was that, the Denver Nuggets are doing all their damn crime. They got to, what the babies go do. If you go do all that damn crime, what the babies go do. If you go shed all the tears, they have Michael Malone whining to the referees. They had Jamal Murray crying to the referees. They had them uncomfortable. Yeah, no, it was, it was, it was crazy to watch cause I, I don't really know. I feel like the only fix the nuggets really have is they got to try to maybe play faster and get, you know, some guys in foul trouble, but it does feel like it's a deep, the defense

from the wolves just bothers the nuggets to a level that we haven't seen. And they also, when they got to play better, Yoko is just a three time MVP. He's got to play better. Michael Porter jr is makes like 30 plus million dollars a year. He's got to play better. Like they, they all, they, they've been tested for the first time in the last year and a half and how they answer this test will tell you a lot. It'll show their true character. Yeah. Right. It'll show their true character. I mean, you never know what a per what's their true character and today hit adversity Yeah, no, but said Jamal Murray throwing the heat pack on the down floor Yeah, yeah

It's crazy to watch because of how easy it is seen for them in the last year and a half Really two years. They've been coming on like this Also out West Oklahoma City use the term that I really like about the Oklahoma City Thunder We like we like watching play. They're fun. You said that they play agenda free basketball in Oklahoma City. Can you describe what agenda free basketball is and why it's beautiful to watch? Washington Wizards, it's the complete opposite of that. Agenda-free basketball is when you're watching a team pass up good shots to get great shots. And you don't see that in a lot of young teams because everybody wanna be the hero.

When you're watching the team guys pass up from actually getting the actual assist to just getting the hockey assist, the pass that's gonna lead to the assist, the pass that's going to lead to the assist. Okay, defensively, you're watching a team that's talking, loading up, boxes and elbows, you know, communicating switches, challenging everything at the basket. That's a gender-free basketball because they don't look at the box score to see what type

of numbers that they're putting up themselves. They just, the only number that they care about is whether or not they win the game or not. And so when I watch them, it's just a beautiful thing to see because they're clapping up, Luke Dorch is doing his thing and they encourage you one another. Let me tell you when you could tell, when especially in basketball, when a team is together and they have no hidden agendas whatsoever. Just watch the bench. If you watch the bench when the guys who are not in the game, if they up off the bench and they're clapping in their room

for their teammates, then you know their team is really, really special and guys then lost themselves into the ball club. Yeah. You played on teams I imagine that were agenda free and also, uh, teams that had agendas, that had players that had their own agendas. If you're on the bench and you're, you know, you're decide whether or not you're going to get into the game and go stand up, you're going to be a part of that action on the sidelines. What is it about the players on the team that make the guys on the bench respond

or not respond? Well, I think, I think, you know, we respond to, and that's a great question, because when you're on the bench, you're always going to respond to what the average fan is not seeing, right? And that's the little things, whether, you know, and that's the things that is rehearsed behind closed doors in the film room. So if a guy is helping out another guy and he sees a rotation and he rotates and he get a good contest or a great contest, and he's on his high horse from leaving in the paint and running out to the corner three to make a guy miss, that's going to get the bench hype because we just went over this in the film room, right? It may not mean much to, you know,

a person who's looking for a highlight dunk or a crossover step back, but it's everything to the guys that's sitting out, that's wearing the same jersey as you because we was in that same locker room with you watching film room and knowing what the coach is preaching. Now, if we see a guy that's trying to get his, then obviously, you know, the vibe is different.

Or we see, for example, if I'm a big man and I'm supposed to be talking to coverage on the high picking, picking role and letting my guard know that the screen is coming and for my guard to force it left or force it right and I don't do my job and my guard get hit with a screen and now the ball handler comes off and he have a clean 15 foot pull up jump shot without anything happening, then I'm not doing my job. That means I'm not engaged. That means I'm not focused. Those are the little things that matter. What what? So the thunder crowd is incredible. We joke they lead the league and wearing the t shirt, the free t shirt. I

didn't realize, but before the game, they have a t shirt cam that basically shames everyone who doesn't put on the t shirt. Like that. They just go around and like put on the t shirt when you were playing there because you were you put on the t-shirt. I like that. They just go around and put on the t-shirt. When you were playing there, because you were on the Thunder at a similar kind of point where it's like a young team, a fun team going deep in the playoffs. What is it like playing in Oklahoma City and especially for the opponent? Is this a... I could curse up on you. Yeah, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

God damn it. It was fucking unbelievable. Hey, look, when you the motherfuckers in OKC, that city, that state embraces you like no other, right? Because I mean, you're in competition with nothing else except for colleges, but as far as on a professional level, shit, it's just you. and it's just y'all and so man you know just when you're doing things and you're winning man it's just a different type of

vibe do y'all remember when you know this the uh that franchise got to oklahoma yeah it was they used to have that meter because it used to be so loud in there and it's a real thing I mean literally feeding off the energy of the crowd And there's no disrespect to Boston because Boston was great. I mean they give you chills in the history But when that when that city gets behind you and you're playing winning basketball and they start to believe oh Yeah, nothing like it does seem different. It does seem different down there, yeah. Did you have an MVP vote? Yeah, I did have an MVP vote.

Who did you vote for MVP? I voted for SGA. Yeah. So you think he should have won MVP? Yeah, I voted for Shay because, listen, hear me out. OK, say last year, first of all, Oklahoma didn't even make the playoffs. They were the number, this year,

they're the number one seed in the Western Conference. Okay, Shay is third in the league in scoring, averaging 30. He's first in the league in steals. He's shooting fucking 54% from the field as a shooting guard. Do you realize that they have big men that doesn't shoot their percentage around the rim? Okay and then the top of it off

when you look at it it's like damn what else do we have to do? What else do we have to do? He has the best record in a tough Western Conference. A tough Western Conference where the ninth and tenthth seed was 10, 11 games above 500. And so, you know, you think about what he's doing with the second youngest team in the NBA, I mean, how does he not get the nod? So many guys were deserving of it, okay?

Whether it was Luka, Jokic, even Jalen Bronson. You, Anthony Edwards, so many guys could have won the award, but I just thought what the SGA did and how he carried this team and brought this team along, I was like, he's for sure deserving of the MVP. Yeah. He's had an incredible, incredible season. So we're watching, I think we can safely say the Celtics game is over. There's a minute left. There's a minute left. They've gotten absolutely smoked by the Cavs. Our producer Hank here sitting on the couch, he's a diehard Celtics fan. He loves you. But what do you say to him and to the Celtics? Because this is, the Celtics are still the best team in the East. One game doesn't change it. but you can also say at the same time, when they

look bad, it looks so bad. Hey, first of all, fix your body language. Okay. It's going to be okay. Fix your body language. Yeah. All right. There we go.

There we go. Go ahead and sit up. Look, I'm happy that the Celtics loves, you know why? Because they need this. They need to be able to face adversity. They need to be able to weather some storms, right? The only thing that I hate about it is that they worked so hard all season long to establish a place of dominance in a home arena that don't lose games at home, right? That's supposed to be a place where teams is like,

you know what, man, we coming up in here, nowhere in here we could get a win. I just think about that 2008 season. Us having home court advantage actually was the key reason, the number one reason why we won the NBA championship. It was the number one reason. Because we knew once we got you back to the garden, we was gonna spank that ass, and we did that.

But the Celtics need this. The Celtics need this because now you can expect a different version of the Boston Celtics come game three, and it's gonna get them prepared for the long haul, and that's winning it all. Let's go, Hank. Come on, Hank, spank that ass. Spank that ass, Spank that ass.

What is it though? They have weirdly struggled at home in the last two years or three years I think it is. Like they're about 500 in the playoffs at home. What is that? I don't know. It almost feel like they don't have a sense of urgency at times and they get too relaxed. But that comes with the best player on their team, and Jason Taylor, right? Like, he gotta have that motor of being consistent, right? I'm gonna apply pressure every single time. Paul Pierce, you know, a lot of people used to give so much credit to Kevin Garnett, KG, the big ticket, and rightfully so.

But Paul Pierce took it so personal when somebody a matchup came into his house, whether it was LeBron, Kobe, you know, Joe Johnson, whoever it was, he took it personal. It was like, not nil. And that's what Tatum gotta start doing. You can't let people walk in your house without taking their shoes off

and then kick their feet up on your coffee table And tell you to get them something to drink. Mm-hmm. Come on, Hank. Fair point Hank You're letting them just walk all over your house. You get the calves a bottle of wine You're opening up a fresh bottle of red for the Cavs and he gets he gets also down on himself. He doesn't stay That's facts you did I did I did see you say after game one, it was like dominant performance from the Celtics, Celtics and six. Yeah. Surprised me. Yeah. Yeah. So the Cavs play basketball, they get paid to play too. Yeah. You're going to lose games in the playoffs. It's okay. Okay. Yeah. You'll be okay. Hey, see Hank had expectations going in this series that they were

going to, they were going to win by a cumulative score of a hundred points Mm-hmm, so they'll imply they were gonna win four games by 25 points. How much did you lose by was it 25? Did you lose by 25 points tonight? I think they lost by 24. Oh, all right, so we're plus one 330 30 piece you got some make. Yeah, you're fine. Burke. Do you think that there's a hey, you're okay You think that the Celtics kind of miss Marcus Smart, kind of miss that edge? I mean, that's to be determined, right? Like they got to complete the mission in order for me to say that. But again, they gave up Marcus Smart to get who? I mean, it's a fair point.

I think that, um... But what I'm saying, they gave up Marcus Mort to get Christophe Prasinkos, am I right? Yep. Okay. The one concern that I have for the Boston Celtics is can Christophe Prasinkos be healthy for four seven game series? And right now the answer is no.

Yeah. Yeah. They're gonna need them. They can't win at all unless they have them and he got to is no. Yeah. Yeah. They're going to need them. They can't win at all unless they have them and he got to be hooked. Yeah. So, uh, speaking of health, the Knicks who have been electric, these playoffs, your guy, big body Brunson, that's what you've given him his name. Love that nickname. But now they, I feel like they got no one left. It's crazy. Mitchell Robinson's out. OG is out for game three. Questionable for Jalen Brunson. At what point is it like they're just losing too many guys? I know they're up 2-0, but it feels like especially with their bench,

they're just running out of bodies. I mean, they are. And it's unfortunate. For as far as making a run, when you're trying to make a real championship run, you need a lot of luck, and that includes being healthy, right? But last night, Tom Thibodeau did a post, well, an in-game interview, and they asked him about OGN and Noby, and before he turned off with that snarl and that fucking attitude, he said, next man up. That's been their mentality all season long. You got to realize, man, when it comes to Dante, Big Body Bronson, and Josh Hart, those

guys will groom right from Villanote. They know how to play the game the right way. They know how to compete at a high level. So those three have a different type of confidence that when they step on the floor together, they feel like they could compete and be anyone in the league. And they have shown us that. Yeah. And they feel like they could make anybody around them better. Right.

We're watching Isaiah Hardenstein. He's going out there doing this thing. Almost had a triple double, you know, last night you're watching, you're watching a McBride come in off the bench and Spurts and have big moments being aggressive. And when you have that type of leadership, you're capable of winning any type of game. Yeah. Yeah. Well, uh, in terms of Rick Carlisle and his comments after, do you think those were baby comments? Because I, I feel like that was a little too much crying. I understand trying to work the rest. Yeah, but that was too much. Like don't give up 130 to a Nick's team. That's four guys. Now you preach it. Yeah. You preach it again, look, you're mad at the refs, right,

for reversing a call that it wasn't a double dribble, but you're not mad at yourself, right? You're not mad at yourself. Look, my grandmother, I love her to death. She got Alzheimer's, right? And you know, it's part of life. But she would have remembered to put TJ McCartney back in the game. Damn, Rick Carlisle, you didn't forget, not one time, you forgot twice.

You didn't put him back in the fourth quarter for game one, and you didn't put him back in the fourth quarter for game two. He has been probably their best player to guard, Jay LeBronson. And Jay LeBronson has been having it his way in the fourth quarter. You didn't even think about putting them back in and on top of that, listen, I understand the Knicks, their mindset, the way that they attack the offensive glass, but you're not gonna say nothing about the offensive rebounds especially late in the fourth quarter. Like it's things that he needs to be worried about and addressing for us with his team, then it'll be crying about the officials.

And then the last thing, the small market BS. Dallas and Oklahoma City playing against each other, right? Minnesota playing, huh? So what is he talking about? Small market teams want to file a bet on it as well. You got your change. Yeah, you up double figures. It's loser talk.

It's like I'm a loser. Big Cat, our team stink. We're very familiar with loser talk. Anytime you send your video staff to make a compilation of 78 missed calls and then send them to the NBA, like it's going to do anything like that. That envelope is probably not even gonna get opened

But you had your video now, so you had your video staff sit down for hours and make a compilation of missed calls That to me seems like you're you're fighting a losing battle and you're spending a lot too much energy fighting that lose Yes, yeah, we're gonna get back to perk in a second. He's brought to you by part of my cheesesteak I love part of my cheesesteak. It's delicious. We ate a bunch of them the other week. I'm going to get some this weekend actually. Saturday is a cheese steak day. Yes. A lot of good sports on TV. I'm going to treat myself to Part of My Cheese Steak. It's a pick up and delivery only restaurant bringing you craveable cheese steaks, tenders, loaded fries and desserts for lunch, dinner and late night. Hank, I know you've been working out a lot. Max, I

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for the two free throws you made you take like 15 years ago and how much does that suck? So if people don't know, it was, it was Paul Pierce got kicked out of a game, but he had two free throws. And then the opposing team gets to pick whoever they want on the other bench and they picked you and you missed them both. Did that, when you had to come in cold off the bench, we like, fuck, this is going to suck. As a youngster and, and I'm standing at the free throw line on the road by myself.

And for us, like with that situation, I at least wanted to see the first one go in. They would have gave me hope to make the next one. But I wasn't mad at Ricolau's about that, you know what I mean? I thought it was pretty fucked up. He picked on me, but it is what it is. But it's no beef, it's no beef.

I actually showed Ricolau, I actually showed Rick Carlisle, I actually showed him a lot of love over the season for being able to make that transition. Because remember, a lot of his players from Dallas didn't have a lot of positive things to say about him. Right? They didn't have a lot of positive things to say about him. So when he got to Indiana,

he started to adjust his coaching style, letting those guys play. So, you know, it's all love. I just wish he stopped that damn crime. Yeah, I would hold a grudge if I were you. I'd be like, that was, it was embarrassing. You made me stand out there all by myself and chew free throws. That's like, that's most people's worst nightmare. Yeah. Picking you off the bench. That's fucked up. You brought up the finals that you played in. What about the other finals when you unfortunately injured your knee? Do you think you guys win that series if you don't get hurt? Absolutely. Look, I started five, never lost the playoff series when everyone was healthy. That's a fact. That's a fact. You know, and I mean, you know, at the end of the day, we still should have won that game. We was up 14 points going into the fourth quarter and a couple of breakdowns.

Guys were fatigued and all of a sudden, you know, Ron Artis goes for 20 and 10. The own song, Hero, I believe Kobe Bryant walked out the game with like 15, 16 rebounds because whoever dominated the glass in that particular game and in that series and that whoever dominated the glass in those games won the basketball game. That's who won the series. Yeah. Yeah. They missed you. Yeah. All right. So I want to get some of your spicy takes that you got going right now. You think LeBron James should retire? See, you know what? Let's have it. Let's have an intelligent. Let's do it. I agree with your take by the way. I don't want to have it. Okay. So I was, I was following up on my big brother, Michael Wilbur. Okay. we know that Wilborn believes that Michael Jordan is the goat, right?

And Wilborn went on a rant talking about the fire in the dog and how and how LeBron and AD lack accountability. So I went on first take with Stephen A and the topic was brought up about the topic was LeBron James 10 head coaches in 21 years, right? Does that like, you know, basically, does it say something about LeBron James having 10 coaches? And I'm like, it does.

And I'm like, I wish he would retire because at this point, I'm looking at it. What else is it for LeBron to accomplish? He have nothing else to accomplish Because even if he wins another championship, he still don't have six so the MJ People out there in the world still go say MJ got six. Okay so your plan in every single season that you're playing and that you don't win the championship because the expectations When you're in the Laker uniform, especially if you're LeBron playing at an elite level is gonna be what championships? I don't give a damn if he's in a wheelchair

It's gonna be championships and so every single season that you don't win Then you give more animosity or more arguments to come at you about the GOAT debate. And I wasn't attacking LeBron legacy or saying like his legacy. We know he's the all-time leading scorer in NBA history. We know he hit 40,000 points, but when it comes down to his legacy, his legacy now is measured on the GOAT conversation. I like that. And the firing of Darbenham does not look good on him. I like that take though because it's saying that if LeBron James continues to play basketball,

even at a high level, he's just proving all the people out there that are haters. Yeah, you're right. He's not MJ. Thank you. And they're going to fire something. It's not MJ. Thank you. And they're gonna find something. It's a weird situation he's in. Yeah, but listen, even if I couldn't find, and I wanted to so bad, I couldn't defend him. I couldn't go at my brother Wilborn or Steve and Nate about that particular matter.

They were right. I had to agree with them. I couldn't lie. What about when you're talking to Mad Dog? When you have a agree with him. I couldn't lie. Mm-hmm. Yeah, what about when you're talking a mad dog when you have a segment with him? Do you have to go back to like a basketball almanac back to like 1963 and get some get some stats ready for him? Look I only been on twice with mad dog and I won't give him an opportunity to go back there for but I must say What are you mad about? Those rants are legend or legendary Even when I'm not on, I want to listen to this shit. Yeah. He's very talented.

No, he's incredible. I think we agree because you're obviously an NBA guy, but we were four football guys and we thought the hypothetical about the NBA NFL thing was stupid. And there's no NFL players that if you said they had to do it in the was stupid and there's no NFL players that if you said they had to do it in the next month there's no NFL players that could go and play in the NBA in the next month. I like I think maybe no one will just agree on this hypothetical that's just why it exists and why we do it every couple years but do you think there's some NBA guys who could play in the NFL? I think it's very small I don't think it's 30. I think Austin rivers is a little too, too much with that. But I also think there's zero NFL guys who could play in the NBA next month. How do we get

here? It's, it's a lie argument. We should have done it in July. Right, right. But, but you know what? Look, I have a list. I have five players. I think I got six. I did a big list today of five players. I said Marcus Smart, Anthony Edwards, Russell Westbrook, Jalen Suggs, and LeBron James. Those five guys, I believe, could stop playing basketball right now and go find a spot on the football field. They had the mentality, they still got the athleticism, they got the size, they can go find a spot. And I forgot one key person, Luke Dort. Luke Dort can go find a spot as well. That's it. I couldn't really... After that, I was like, ah, nah, he too soft. He can't get it. Yeah, but I

was just like... And Austin actually was supposed Yeah, like, nah, but I was just like, you know, and Austin actually was supposed to be in the day, but he called in sick talking about his stomach was hurting or whatever the case may be. So they like, Perk, we need you to do the big list. I'm like, it's not even my fight. Yeah, so what do people get for, again, this is never, no one's ever going to agree on this. Everyone's got their sides, but what would you say that people get for, again, this is never, no one's ever going to agree on this. Everyone's got their sides. But what would you say that people get wrong the most about current NBA and the level of skill and player that's in the NBA right now? If you would understand this, you'd understand that it's impossible for someone from the

NFL to just show up and be an NBA player. Well, I think it's more so like the coordination part of it, being able to do it behind the back, between the legs, step back on a consistent basis at an efficient level. Right? Like, I think, you know, they take that for granted. And it's the IQ of the game, right? Being able to do it in that moment, right?

Being able to have a guy on your hip and come around and pick and roll, keep him on your hip and split the defender with a crossover in between and left hand scoop. Like the coordination just on a different level. But I don't want, look, I don't want no smoke with any of the football guys, okay? Big Swaggle and JJ White and Miles Garrett. Look, man, we all cool, big, per-cool band.

I respect everything that y'all are out there doing on the football field. I want no smoke. Yeah, I feel like you could have played though. You would have been the answer to that question back in like 2008. Yeah, hey, I'm telling you. Tight end and DN. I was a problem. I was a problem. Texas football, baby. Yeah. Friday night lights. I also think it's a, and I understand it. NFL players get, uh, they're upset because

they think like their toughness is being questioned. No one, no one ever questions toughness event. Being in the NFL is an insane thing to be able to do. And that's why I thought like maybe a couple guys like there. There are a lot of guys in the NBA that if they got hit, they would be like no moss instantly. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, sure. I mean, they, they don know Mars instantly right now in the NBA Lonely NFL yeah, they would not like Anthony Davis who would not like going to training camp and getting hit and drink To guarantee you had so you had Suggs number one, right? Jalen Suggs is that because his he's got cousins right to rel Suggs is his cousin. No You better check Jalen Suggs Yeah, he was mr. Football in Minnesota. Was he really? Yeah, 1500 passing yards. I believe 600 rushing yards, threw for 12 touchdowns,

ran for eight. Yeah, he was really good. He was recruited by Ohio State and Nebraska. Okay. No, he was really, really good. And Terrell Suggs is second cousin too. There we go. Okay, good list. But no Giannis on the list.

I don't know. Once you start getting to that level of being like six, eight and above, I got to see footage on it. I saw LeBron James play football in high school. I saw what he did in Ohio. I ain't seen Gianis play football. I don't know. I don't know if he could play with Steve Van Kestrel. I don't know. Yeah. Somebody else tweeted me a really good idea I thought for that debate, which was Wimby under center on the goal line, just snap it to me, sticks his arms out, it's a touchdown. It's like the Drew Brees, except you don't have to jump. Yeah. Yeah.

Not a bad idea. So who do you have? Who do you have in the finals? And who's your champion this postseason? So I got the Celtics coming out of the East. I got the Minnesota Timberwolves coming out of the West. And I got Anthony Edwards finals MVP Minnesota taking it all. At 22 would be quite something. Yeah, but he got an old soul., but he got an old soul. Yeah. He got an old soul.

He does. He's different. Don't he make you look forward to watching basketball when he plays? Oh yeah. I can't wait till tomorrow. Yeah. I was upset when game two ended

because I said, damn, I gotta wait all the way to Friday to watch this man. Yeah. No, I've been saying that all playoffs, like when it's not an Anthony Edwards night, I'm kind of bummed out. I'm like, well, what the hell? Like, yeah, I'll watch these games, but I wish Anthony Edwards was playing in it. It would be nice. Hey, I got a dumb question for you. Uh, Kendrick Lamar verse Drake. Do you have to take Kendrick's side just because of the name? Oh, no, but I actually like Drake delivery better.

I think, I think Drake came, you know, the way he, the way he put, what he put into it, like with Kendrick Lamar, I kind of gotta be like, ah, let me put it on. Let me repeat and listen to this again. I kind of get lost. But Drake kind of, you know, he simplified for you. He shoot it out there, you know, and do what he do. I just hope that it ends. I'm like, when is it gonna stop? Okay, the first, like the first one,

Drake shout out there, Kendrick responded, Drake responded, Kendrick responded. I'm like, is this about to be an all summer thing? Cause I don't have time for this shit. They're both gonna accidentally do an album. Yeah, shit. Whoops. Kendrick's just gonna keep going after him I think just like every week another Drake

song. I just thought maybe because you know Kendrick is a somewhat unique name like you just be like I gotta ride with Kendrick's no matter what. No, no, no. Okay. Actually I try to shy away from the name Kendrick and get called Perk. Yeah, Perk's good. I like the name Kendrick though. Perk has no negative connotations to it. Yeah.

Okay, Perk, we love having you on. This is always so much fun whenever you're on. I had one last question for you. It's a rollback question, r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com. Promo code take, 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rollback dot com, 20% off. So my last question is, and this is maybe just an excuse to get to hear you say the word dog again, can you give us your top three dogs right now in the NBA? Oh, that's a great, okay.

Great, yeah. Well, number one is gonna be Anthony Edwards. Yeah, Rock Wiley. Rock Wiley. No teacup poolers, okay? Rock Wiley. Now, it's a certain type of dog you gotta be. No teacup poolers.

All right. Anthony Edwards. I'm gonna go Jaylen Bronson. Yeah. Big body Bronson. Six foot, not athletic, leading the playoffs and scoring. You gotta be some type of damn dog. Damn it, he's that.

And number three, I gotta go with Josh Hart. Oh, okay. So the Knicks lead the league in dogs. Yeah. Josh Hart then played what, four consecutive games without getting a minute rest? Yeah. And still, when he lead the game,

he still got more in the tank. It's crazy. He's the best rebounding guard in the playoffs. Imagine averaging over 11 rebounds at 6'5 in today's game. You gotta have some type of, you know what I'm saying? Some real dog in you. Shit.

Yeah. He had him walk in, he'd bite. For a guy that's 6'5 to average that many rebounds, is it more about his dog or is he also like a sneaky smart player? Is he an intelligent dog? No, no, because he going to get that in traffic. It's a difference if, you know, O'Biggs boxing

out. No, when you're going to get offensive rebounds and snatching them in traffic, when you shoot a free throw, when you shoot a free throw and you miss your own free throw and you go get an offensive rebound and put it back, that's having a dog mentality. There's nothing else past that. Yeah. Dog that plays in traffic. So the Knicks lead the league in dogs. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. They got two dogs.

So I mean, think about it. My top three dog this is pretty damn good. You got Anthony Edwards, who's undefeated in the postseason right now, right? Who just knocked off Kevin Durant, told him about it. Okay, he told him about it. Oh yeah, you're my goat. And then knocked him off. Before the series, he said, oh, everybody, you know, think that Bradley Beard and Devin Booker the best two guard in the league, but I feel like I am. And when I did bust they ass, that's having a dog mentality. And now he's telling the world, Oh, Yolkish. Yeah, we gotta be on our P's and Q's. He's the best player in the world. And then he goes out when he's doing what he's doing right now to the devil nuggets.

Yeah. It's all facts. Dogs. And Jimmy Butler's like, he's a dog. Dev, he's definitely a dog, but he's the dog that's like behind the fence and doesn't actually have to get into the fight. And he just does the barking. Yeah, but he in the dog house. Yeah, dogs. He bark, he bark from the house. You know how you got some of the dogs, you go to your partner house or when you was young or your friend house or your neighbor house that have a dog barking, but he never come

out the house. Yeah. His dog barking. Yeah, that's Jimmy right now. So you're walking by in the street and you're getting barked at. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, beware of dog.

Yeah. All right, well, Perk, thank you as always. We love having you on, man. You're the best and good luck with the rest of the playoffs, all the shows you're doing. You're working hard. You watch games. I know you have that beef. Is the beef squashed with Chuck?

I mean, it wasn't no beef. I just told the truth and they got in they feelings about it. And I wasn't trying to take a side of them, it just came out naturally. When they was talking about the Knicks and I was like, they don't know a damn thing about the Knicks because they don't really watch basketball. And you know, whatever.

I got bigger things and other things to worry about, like actually focusing on the game of basketball. This is the most crucial time of the year. Yeah. Oh, I had one last question. Your running mate, I know it's a sensitive topic, but Big Baby Davis, he actually said today that he's gonna be able to go to prison

and not eat cheeseburgers, so he's gonna get in shape. Do you still talk to him at all? Yeah, I actually talked to Big Baby about three days ago. Yeah. How's he doing? Three days ago. And it was done. It was just a phone call, you know, checking in on him. I ain't even asked him about the situation. I knew he was dealing with it. But Big Baby, man, he from Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He's gonna handle that time. He gonna do the time. The time ain't go do him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, it is a great spin zone to be like, I'm probably

just going to get in really good shape. Yeah. I mean, he go, go do it and come on home. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe make a comeback. Read a few books. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big three back out there. Um, all right. Well, perk, thank you again. Uh, I know you got a crazy busy schedule. We love having you on, man. I appreciate y'all, fellas, and keep up the great work. Real talk. Welcome back to another Fire Fest of the Week brought to you by our good friends over at Morgan and Morgan.

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If you're injured hit up Morgan and Morgan, they will fight for you. Their fee is free unless they win Okay, let's wrap up. We got fire fest. I'm very excited about Hanks Henry also memes is out on a bachelor party Jake is calling golf all weekend. Go listen, please. We're very proud of Jake. He's a J tour live. Yeah, crushing it. He's calling Max's group. Yeah, it's called his group. So he's been crushing it with the golf coverage. Uh, then getting, getting picking up, you know, what is this third tournament this year so far? So please go watch. Uh, so it's just me, PFT, Hank and Max here. Max has a firefest

for us, but Hank, we always start with you. So go ahead. Yeah, I have a couple of the first memes memes isn't here, but he Mr. Pear two nights in a row. Jinx. Too heartbreaking. Correct. Mega chokes. Mega choke. Fact that it was back to back. He had the stars two nights ago. They blew a three goal lead and then he had the Oilers last night. He had a, you know, Hezzy Hay to pick the Oilers. Yep. Thought it was a lock. Also it's group and just an

all time choke. Also blew through three goal lead. Maybe a one period of the week, third period. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the, the, the, uh, Mr. Perry and he also memes has been kind of getting cocky when the when his teams go up to Rio Yeah, and then he starts tweeting these AI things he's addicted to by the way tune into the PMTV If you missed it, it released Thursday night. Mr. Perry picks his NHL and NBA champions. Oh It's very good that I did put I did put it in do you know what he picked yes I don't I'll watch I don't know you'll be happy now. Don't say don't say anything

Wait will he be happy with the NHL or NBA you don't know Maybe you have to tune in to find out. I hope he picks both Boston teams it too Well my you know cuz he kind of sucks right now Well as long as memes doesn't do the AI which I'm sure he will now cuz he wants to Jinx you have you noticed that memes is getting very very protective over mr. Pear like notice That's it's crazy. Like he won't let anybody look at the turtle, right? Is it where you don't where he's sleeping right now? All he does is stare at it. He's like, oh still sleeping I think he's in love with mr. Pear. I like how this is the most we've ever talked about memes with no one joke

so I was walking I was walking to the show the other day I came around the corner and Memes was kissing mr. Pair. Mm-hmm on the lips. I think he actually wouldn't when he takes mr. Pair home He just puts him in his the front of his underwear. Mm-hmm drives him home that way. That's how they sleep. That's his bed Yeah, no, mr. Memes is obsessed with Mr. Pear, which is good. It's good It's very good, but it is a little weird Turtle it's a turtle that does nothing but sleep and shit in its own water. He's also very cute though Yeah, I know he's the cutest My other fire fest which I alluded to before we recorded is that I don't I might I might get caught up in some legal action

I'm not sure how this works But I parked at the airport when I went home this past weekend And I came back was was pretty hungover coming back was just like it was a struggle getting on the on the plane I told the guy next to me that I had food poisoning in case I puked Probably just wreaked like booze. Oh, so I don't think I was really hiding anything so embarrassing Yeah, no soda zone. I fell asleep. You know no worries Get back to my car in the airport had a boot on it. Oh Oh, no, and it's because which I I still am trying to figure out

It's not easy dealing with the DMV, but I guess I had a red light like oh yeah car violations Oh, yeah, but I haven't got like I hadn't got anything in the mail. Oh, have you checked your mail? Yes Okay, so it I think it's like when I moved somehow my address to an updater. It was violations I didn't know about Had a boot on my car Had to walk like all the way across the parking lot to the boot place pay like it wasn't a crazy amount But I had to pay off the it was like two or three red light violations And then wait like an hour and a half for them to come take my boot off wait

So they've got they've got license plate readers at the airport that scan every car that's going in to see if outstanding tickets Yes, that is a fucking racket It's essentially like when they do the iron bowl free ticket giveaway, and they get everyone for not paying their child support Well, they had they was like that did you they also when I was pulling in it was crazy busy And they had me park on like a curb, like there was a bunch of cars on the curb, but there were signs on the curb that said no parking, but they literally were directing people to park there. So when I got back, I was so mad.

I was like, you know, getting ready to fight being like, I was looking at an attendant that told me to park here and they're like, no, you just have like three red light tickets. Okay. So I don't even know what that means. Well, I collect them like Pokemon cards. I get one a week. For what? If you go through, so there's a couple intersections.

You gotta know which ones. And it's not even, like I don't go through red lights. No. I go through yellow lights that turn red, and if it's red while you're in the intersection, they will snap your picture. And I'm doing this at like two in the morning on Sunday nights when we leave and there's no one on The road yeah, but it doesn't matter gets you. It's a fucking racket But you get them in the mail I get them in the mail one thing that I've noticed about Chicago and the drivers here is

The left here for be careful with this no no no I got cooked online for this and it's bullshit Okay, a couple things this This is Niche Chicago Talk. A couple things. I'll start out, I'll do a shit sandwich. So the nice part first, people are very good about waving you in. Yep. People love to wave you in. If they'll stop for you, let you make a turn.

If they know that they can't get any further because there's a traffic buildup in front of them, they'll let you right in. Love that about Chicago drivers. Very nice. The left turns. When the light is turning red, when it's yellow, I come from place I think most people grow up driving where you go out into the intersection, you make the left turn maybe right after it turned red, right? That's totally fine. In Chicago,

you've got like four cars that make that left after it's already gone. Yeah, you pile up and you're ready to go. Everybody makes that up. All you gotta do is just basically be in line and you can make it Yeah, if you're there you can do it. But with the red light cameras Hank I so I had my car booted in a McDonald's parking lot when I just stepped out of it They the boot on the car is such a racket. Yes, there's somebody that's a red light cameras a racket They're a racket because it's just it's like like I said, I'm not I would understand if you actively are going through a red light, which I do not do.

It's going through a yellow light that then turns red or like you said, going, you know, getting in line and being like, Oh, I can go left here. I'll even say like two cars making that left after it turns red. That's normal. That's fine. It's efficient driving here. It's like, it's like four or five something. Yeah.

I like getting in the, in that lane and just being like, I got this. This was like two or three weeks ago. I tweeted this cause it's, it's insane. you sit at the red light and you see the red light goes red four to five cars yeah but that's good it's it's just insane and it's and pft's right it's only in Chicago like I have literally driven across this entire country I've driven my entire life and I tweeted one thing I've learned driving in Chicago everyone turns left on red right after it switches is from yellow. It's just an unspoken thing. A car or three does every time. Every single one was like, dude, have you ever driven a car before? That's the most

normal thing in the world. Like everyone does it everywhere. One car making a turn completely normal. But I like it. It's good. It's, it's because it's hard to get, it's hard to make that turn. If everyone's gone waiting, like you'll get it light sometimes where it will be like, if you went by the letter of the law, you'd be at that light forever. No, I respected it. It was just an observation. I was like, one thing I noticed about Chicago and every single person dunked on me being like, Oh, how about you drive in any other state in the world? So a lot of those lights that we're talking about, they, there are lights that don't even have the left turn error. And they should, and they should, and this is their way of making up for it's right

I know we're not giving you an arrow So just take the foot I also do it when there is a left turn take the first 10 seconds of the red light To go ahead and everybody that's in line if you're in line stay in line. You can make that left Yeah, I would take what happens here over what happens in New York any day of the week because New York people will do that but they'll you can do the left turn thing if you're like the fourth in line like PFT was saying, but you you do it knowing that you're able to go down the next street in New York. People will do that and just sit in the middle of the intersection. Yeah. Just like it off the line. We're trying to get into the tunnel or anything like that. That

will just be the entire time you just be sitting there And it just all chaos breaks loose because none of the lights actually match up to when you can move yeah Yeah, I don't mind it either. I just literally said one thing I've noticed and people just were like you fucking people are still mad about this calling winter over in like To be fair you also what you said is different than what PFC PFC said I was trying to say exactly what he's he was Trying to be said. He said like- You said any, but you didn't specify the amount. He made it sound like one car making an insurance problem. One car, that is all across the country.

If you are in the Intersect- Three or four, even two. Even two. Yeah. Three or four is a lie. I do it all the time. I'd say, yeah, after like the sixth time I saw the fourth car go through the light, I was like, I think this might be a Chicago. You just gotta be on your car. You gotta be on your go

I'm with it. I play the game. I like the game. I respect it's a better game. It's just a it's a Chicago thing It's not like this everywhere else much to people's you know disagreement. So you you do it though. You've got her the times Yeah, and it also it also makes it so that everyone's and I've gotten like six fucking tickets doing it. Apparently Yeah, I mean I have to people you got to pay attention That's the other part is like but now it's like I don't want to do it you got to be ready I guess I got to figure out where You just gotta figure out where I know exactly where a couple are on there's one right down the street that yeah is every time I think I think we've got there's no left. There's no left on green

We glossed over Hanks original point was he drove to the airport like a psychopath. That's also crazy Why is it I think two nights? Parking the lot. It's it's 50. It's like $15 a night. So it's like I drive if it's like $30 versus $80 they're back. It was like 300. It was But no, it's it's it's cheaper, but it actually worked out if you have time Yeah, I because if you imagine if you got booted on like a street that you were like running around doing errands Yeah, like I had a got fucked. Yeah, we I had time I wasn't like in a rush to get back when I said I was like, you know

We could you said we could do something at four. I was like I can be there and we changed it Yeah, I didn't get back to like 630 But man, I I did drive to the airport one time in Chicago and that's that's a never again thing You know, I like it. I had to park so far away to do you have time. It's not bad. You get on the shuttle Oh, it's bad. It's bad. I'm never doing that again I like driving if you were if I like driving too, I think two days if you're going for a weekend trip If you reserve your spot, it's a lot better. Oh you can do that? Yes. That's the like a restaurant. Yes. Like a jelly spot. I've done it O'Hare. I used to do it at LaGuardia. If I had like a one

day 24 hour trip you reserve your spot. You show up you park and then it does make sense if it's like one day maybe two at max anything over to the cost just doesn't make any sense. It does. I would even say in Hank's circumstance where it's like two day, maybe two at max. Anything over two, the cost just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't. I would even say in Hank's circumstance, where it's like two days, you saved like 15 bucks. Well, again, no, because he got the... But it's also nice, I don't know, I like to drive. I like getting off a plane.

I agree. And just being like, I just gotta get to my car. Yeah. I like driving. Yeah. It's nice. You feel like you have more control. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, sometimes. Okay. Well, you're a great driver. I'm actually a great driver. If You feel like you have more control. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes. Okay. Oh yeah. I'm actually a great driver. If there's a pole, maybe not. Fantastic driver. Okay, so PFT, your Fire Fest? My Fire Fest of the Week is I have been accused of cheating and hacking on my favorite flight

simulator game. Oh no. And I'm being threatened with a ban. By who? By other players. Oh shit. Are you still in like a guild? That I'm beating. I a ban. By who? By other players. Oh shit. Are you still in like a guild? That I'm beating.

I am in a guild, it's a squadron Hank. Sorry. I fly in a squadron. We're improving, it's leaps and bounds. We're dropping up the charts. Well yeah, because you're cheating. I got accused of cheating. I was also called several racial slurs that I haven't heard in a long time by people accusing

me of cheating. How do you cheat? I don't know. It's one of those things where I think- Let me ask that again. If you've been playing the game for a long time, I think if you're really into the subculture around the game and the lore,

you know that there are ways of cheating if you're really into it. I have not spent that much time understanding. So I don't know, how do you cheat? Are you playing on a computer? Let me ask you. Your phone. My phone.

I don't know. You haven't seen him? He's on his sweet box and on his phone. I know, but I think if you're playing a computer PC game It's much easier to be like you're hacking you installed something. How the fuck do you install hacks on a high? Yeah, let me ask the question again because I think you were thinking like the broad terms. I'm saying how do you cheat? How do I cheat? You clearly cheat? I cheat by being a really fucking good pilot and by that's not cheating No, it's not cheating. I I cheat by being excellent Yeah, and I think by that's not cheating. No, it's not cheating I I cheat by being excellent

Yeah, and I think some people get jealous of my excellence in the cockpit, but I had I had one game I put up like four MVP performances in a row after each of these games And then one of the guys I was just killing over and over again Hit me up, and then he told all of his buddies like this guy's cheating So now there's like now I'm being bullied in my flight simulator game got it. It's tough is there is there a form I guess I don't if there is you don't leak it, but is there like a Outside form or like discord channel or like people call it. There is a discord I'm not I don't participate in the discord. I haven't reached that level with yet

I you have to have a lot of time to participate in that kind of disk I might try and find it just to see just to see the chatter But I don't know yet There might be like an effort a campaign behind the scenes to get me banned cuz I'm cheating Sounds like there is what's your what's your KD? a lot my usual I would say I probably kill like average nine planes die three times Hmm, it's pretty good. You might be

Maybe cheat but now I want to know how to cheat because that sounds like it'd be awesome yeah they've they've kind of they've spoken to existence now you have to cheat no I you're gonna be accused of cheating you might as well cheat you made me do this right exactly because what like if everyone's already gonna think of you a certain way just be like fine I'll fucking cheat yeah but I mean I I haven't been called those words by a video gamer in a long time yeah kind of feels like still got it we playing against was name was the was the fucking all the people Myers Leonard yeah Myers Leonard saw that yeah Myers Leonard mm-hmm that was a mistake

okay my fire fest is I'm being held hostage by a guy named Chuck E. Cheese. So what is Chuck E. Cheese's real name? His name is char. His middle name, the E stands for entertainment. So therefore his name is Charles entertainment cheese. Yeah. So I took, I took my kids. I thought that place closed a long time ago. It's not, it's not close. It might be back. It definitely went bankrupt or something like a few years. It's not close because I've been a couple times with my kids and I don't know what happened, but my daughter, my middle child,

she just thinks every day we're gonna go to Chuck E. Cheese and I have to basically negotiate with the terrorist every single day that today's not the day we're going to Chuck E. Cheese. And I've taken her many times, like more, I've gone to Chuck E. Cheese more than anyone should go to Chuck E. Cheese. And I've taken her many times, like more, I've gone to Chuck E. Cheese more than anyone should go to Chuck E. Cheese in the last few months, which is, I think, two or three times.

But every single day, taking her to school, we get in the car and she's like, are we going to Chuck E. Cheese? I'm like, no, we're going to school. She's like, oh, so we're going to Chuck E. Cheese later. No, we're not going to Chuck E. Cheese today. It's Tuesday. Then we get home.

Dinner is the time to go to Chuck E. Cheese. I don't know. Then we get home. Dinner. Is it time to go to Chuck E. Cheese? I don't know what to do. I think I got to say that it's closed down forever. You have to tell her that school is actually Chuck E. Cheese. I'm so sick of Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah. Just be like, this is Chuck E. Cheese. This is the Chuck E. Cheese where you learn and color and do finger painting. It's just every day Chuck E. Cheese. When are we going to Chuck E. Cheese? Are we going

to, oh, I'm going to take a nap and then I'll get up and we'll go to Chuck E. Cheese? No, this is not what we do. We don't go to Chuck E. Cheese every day. But now I think I either have to go to Chuck E. Cheese every day or yeah, say that it's closed. Or here's what you do. You just give some, you give tickets to her teacher. And then when she does an assignment,

have her teacher be like, here's your tickets. You're at Chuck E. Cheese. If you want, you can redeem these for like a tiny plastic dinosaur at the end of the day. Yeah. Like turn every place that she goes into Chuck E. Cheese. You're like, here's your tickets. You're at Chuck E. Cheese. If you want, you can redeem these for like a tiny plastic dinosaur at the end of the day. Yeah. Like turn every place that she goes into Chuck E. Cheese. And we're going to do a birthday at Chuck E. Cheese for her.

So now it's going to just reignite the love for Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah. Chuck E. Cheese does rock. It does rock, but I can't do it every day. Yeah. And I've been asked, I would say 16 out of the last 17 days I've been asked when are we going to Chuck E Cheese. This is why you never do anything fun with your children. I know. I know they want to go to the... you do one thing... You gotta do like the mind... I'm trying to

think like I feel like I would I would get told like if you don't talk about Chuck E Cheese, maybe it will go. Then she's just gonna be thinking about Chuck E Cheese. It's almost worse. Yeah and it's like she won't be able to focus on anything else besides Chuck E. Cheese. Don't say Chuck E. Cheese. Like every time you bring up Chuck E. Cheese, we're not going for another day. I'm basically living with the Busters guy in a three-year-old girl body where she's just like, But you love Chuck E. Cheese. You could turn your entire house into a Chuck E. Cheese.

Yeah, we could just build an arcade here. We could do a Chuck E. Cheese arcade here. Yeah, get Pasquale the parrot. The craziest thing is it's not even fun for her I thought that was like a huge like when we go it's not like there's she's not at the point where she can play the video Games. Yeah, it's not really that fun, but she didn't hit right. There's no ball pit at this Chuck E Cheese Oh, what's the point? All right I mean there's like little rides and then we play cruise in USA and we crash into everything

That's fun, and then we get and then we do the the game where we try to win like a ball Yeah, and usually I fail and look like a fucking loser. Yeah, I think you just get get a couple arcade machines We can put them in the office. We can even get a ball pit in the office I would probably be good. Yeah, and then just have that be good for our lice. It'd be really good for the lice to share around. One time my job was to be in charge of hosing down the ball pit whenever some kid diarrhea in it. Ball pits are gross. They're gross.

Bad times. But yeah, just turn the office into a Chuck E. Cheese and be like, we're going to Chuck E. Cheese. I think that's all I got to say. Or your house. Put up a sign and be like, we're back to Chuck E. Cheese. Chuck E. Cheese, yeah. We're here at Chuck E. Cheese.

Welcome back, Chuck E. Cheese. Yeah. But yeah, it's breaking me slowly to have to just every single day be asked are we going to Chuck E Cheese. And again, it's not like I'm being a hard ass, like we're never going to Chuck E Cheese. I've been to Chuck E Cheese too many times. Do you like the pizza? I like Chuck E Cheese pizza.

It's good. Yeah. No, I haven't had it since I was probably like 12. Yeah. But it was really good. It is funny going back to all these places and being like, damn, this place is small. Yeah.

Whereas like when you were a kid, you're like, this is the craziest place ever. The animatronic band. I thought they were giants. Yeah, the light up dance floor. Yeah. Chuck E. Cheese rocks. So yeah, that's my Fire Fest.

Max, finish soft. This past week has been, you know, I had, it was a wedding. That's normal Fire Fest. Flight got delayed. Love is Fire Fest? Wow. Seeing your friends at their happiest, the wedding itself was delightful, but like it's the normal thing. Like flight was delayed, sweat through my shirt, outdoor wedding. That's not normal. Sweating through your shirt at a wedding. That's every time you are that guy. I'm the guy who goes as hard

as you possibly could on a dance floor. You got the tie around your head? Not a tire. No, the tie is in my back pocket. Jack jacket at the at the dinner table. Rip your pants. Rip your pants. I've ripped my pants before. Yeah. You definitely have that look on your face where you're you're dancing so hard. You look angry. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You are like the guy that every, uh, you you know like mother of the bride looks at and they're like Really correct that this is now this was supposed to be a classy day and this guy's here a hundred percent Me every time which remove in terms of going up to the bartender at the start of an open bar wedding so the

Normally two martinis and then and then beer to Martin. Yeah, but what about tip because you got a tip so I'd get I do a 20 at the beginning and then and then I'll get a couple drinks and then once I feel like I've gotten enough drinks It's fun. It's a five. Do you say anything? I know I hate I never say something No, I never say anything But yeah, they owe the bartender always knows the 20 the person who gives you Yeah, you have to sometimes you have to wait though to make sure the bartender sees you put the 20 in yes I don't know if bartender I assume any bartenders listen to show

Back me up if I'm way off, but they have to hate whenever someone gives them a 20 They're like take care of me for the keep them coming. Yeah, that's the fucking worst guy in the world Like what do you mean? Take care of me? You're gonna get it's open bar. Yeah, it's almost worse than not tipping because that you're saying that you're saying that you're your $20 Yeah, will direct the course of this employees evening for the rest of us and also everyone's like $20 isn't an absurd amount of money. There's probably 15 20 people there are giving him $20 to start the night It's like the dude when you go on vacation Like there's always one dude around the pool that thinks he's like best friends with the locals

He gave him a tip the first day. It's like yeah. Yeah, we're like we're basically friends for life like dude shut up during any wedding I do the same thing I go up I usually do $20 right off the bat and then after I get about three drinks in me four drinks in me Then I'm like fuck it. Let's just give this guy more money spam them and then the next time I go up. I'm like here's 40. Yeah Yeah, they're like thank you. I guess yeah, and they from their perspective They just see a bunch of people all dressed the same. Yeah, don't even recognize who's who's giving what Remy? I'm the guy that's wearing the tie. Yeah, remember me. I'm the sweaty guy Sweet what was your fire? So my real fire fest is this is like a year long

fire fest that has happened again this week. I'm in a battle with my deli guy at my grocery store. Oh, I don't I don't know if it's Chicago or if it's my specific grocery store that I go to. But I like I go to the deli thing I get my turkey I get my cheese. But I like my I like my the deli thing, I get my turkey, I get my cheese, but I like my cheese very thin. So then you gotta say it. I say it every time. Every time I go in there I'm like very, very, very thin. And the guy will like give me a slice of cheese and I'm like a little bit thinner than that.

And then he gives, and then once I go home, it's always thicker than when he gives it to me. Wait, you make him recut the cheese No, sometimes. I give you a sample. Okay. Have you ever What do you say that is big uncut? How does this tie to a wedding say say no? This is what I was a sweaty guy, and he wants to see thin no the wedding I I wasn't ready. I wasn't going to talk about the wedding. I was just going to say like this past week That's my fire fest of the week. It was like the normal wedding things. But like year long I've been thinking about this fire fest of my battle with this cheese deli for every

time fire. So role play. I'm the, I'm the guy who's cutting your cheese. Uh, Hey, Hey, what can I get you? Hey, can I get the? The way you already are I'm already done with you. Hey, can I get a white American sliced very very thin? I think you got it. I think I do two very I think very is the wrong word. I Want to say extra thin I? Very special to very very is just not extra There if I do two verys, that should mean very thin. No, extra feels like if you say, hey, can I get some cheese? I like it cut extra thin.

Maybe hold up something in comparison. I want it to be a slice of paper. Yeah, bring a sheet of paper and be like this thin. Yeah, you're going to see through. Jim Nance's toast. You need to just get it perfect perfectly cut and then just hold on to that slice of cheese for the rest of your life in a in a in a ziploc bag in your pocket and anywhere you go you can be like look this is what I like I

think you try extra extra okay just try different deli too no but just now but there's I'm not gonna go to different let me know how extra works I think for some reason someone saying very very thin is just I but wait if it's White American cheese, that's a very moist cheese Yeah, right it might not be possible to cut white American cheese as they like not true You might be asking not sure you an impossible task. I mean in at the Acme in Philly They get it that thing as thin as shit well Then maybe you should just order your cheese from the Acme in Philly

Yeah, just say extra thin and let me in report back Okay, you know what Max? When's your birthday? This month. Oh, I'm gonna get you a cheese slicer so you can cut your own cheese as thin as you want it I don't even know how that's possible. What do you mean? You don't think you can buy a slice? I think you're gonna complain about somebody else doing it not thin enough for you That's their that's their job Yeah, I think you I think you give off bad vibes these deli guys I just want to let's be honest if max walked into your deli the first thought you'd have is this guy is gonna be a fucking Pain in the ass about how I cut this let me get seven pounds of salami

Yeah, yeah, oh you want pepper you want enough pepperoni to cover up your nipples I just want some thin cheese you need to say very very thin is off What it has to do with any of this? It's very off putting. I don't know why you're still in the wedding. I don't know why you brought it up in the first place. Try extra. Very very feels like you're scolding someone. Which is a slicer.

Very very thin. I don't know what Mr. Pear had to do with your parking situation. That was to bring up PMTV which I was asked to do. Smart. Plug God. Oh okay fair. Extra. Extra. Got it. Very very just yeah I don't know. I'd be bothered do smart God. Okay fair extra extra got it

Very very just yeah, I don't know I'd be bothered by very very it feels like you're like You're really kind of talking down to me like I don't know why that could be okay I don't thought about it like that right because when you say very very it's like dude show well That's a very very special guest When you say very twice, it's like, Hey buddy, I got it the first time. Okay. No, I don't, I don't hate that. Is it the same guy every time? No, it's different. I think it's just- Let's get extra mixed in the lingo and let's in report back. Is it a deli or is it a deli in a grocery store? It's a deli in a grocery, like the

deli counter at the grocery store. And maybe a little please and thank you. Oh no, I do. I am polite. Do you tip him. But your whole tone and vibe is angry. Are you supposed to tip the deli counter. Maybe cut your yeah. Maybe say hey hey hey take care of me for the rest of the time. All right. Yeah. Remember this face. How much do you go to this guy. He's a lot of cheese. They should teach the grocery store. I probably get cheese every other week. Go to the grocery store once a week. I think actually they shouldn't teach tipping in school. I never know It's actually a good litmus test of like were your parents shitty or not if you're a bad tipper

but there's things where you don't know like What to tip do you not tell me what are you talking about? No, no, you know, I don't think you usually do if there's a jar there and I've got like a five dollar bill I put it in yeah Or if it's like you're doing I would tip if I was doing Going to a deli and ordering so much stuff for a party that it was you know When when you have to ask ask for a ton of stuff and you hold up everyone else Because your guys like running back like oh, and I'll take this and I'll take that that would maybe be a tip

Do you do 20% at a restaurant? Obviously, when you order takeout? Yes, 20% takeout or delivery. Yeah, is it pickup, pickup or delivery? I usually either one I smash more I do I do 25. Yeah, delivery. What about takeout? Takeout? Takeout I'll tip a little probably. Yeah, like 10 to 20. Yeah Yeah I'll round up. I got soup on on Tuesday night. I got ramen soup. I did 20% on that. Yeah, because like I mean, they're still making the food Yeah, no, I know I just there's yeah. No, I always tip when you pick up I wouldn't tip a full like 25 on pickup But I would tip because that money goes to like the the kitchen and the expo that does the the takeout

stuff it's not to like a server hotel rooms yeah yes if i'm there for a long time i've started to do that a lot recently i like to write a little note yeah i feel like thanks for all you do appreciate you if i'm there for a night maybe not if i'm there for multiple nights i'll leave you know 40 like if we're at super bowl week I'll leave 100 or something because they've been cleaning all week. Yeah. Also, Max, happy birthday. You're getting a cheese slicer so you can do your own cheese, okay? Oh, hell yeah. You have nobody to complain to. No, I'm excited.

Maybe we can build a shelf behind you and just have the slicer right there. Yeah, you should do a segment. That should be like a Max video. Cutting the cheese with Max. Sounds great. Thrilling. Okay, good Firefest boys. Let's do numbers. Max, have you ever gotten this? No, I have not yet. PFT, have you gotten this? Not yet. But he's going to. So am I. Someone offered me today. Wait, there's other people here that haven't gotten it. Max, why are you singling me out? Why is big cat singling me?

I'm asking you. Because I have a rivalry with you in this because I told you I would get it before you and the only other person is memes. memes doesn't count. I almost took this guy up on on an offer today. He said that he would buy a certain amount of Stella Blue Coffee if I vacated by win, and then he'd buy double that if I then beat Max again. This tunnel of chaos.

Kinda wanted to do it. Kinda wanted to do it. Just be like, you know what? Vacate, I'll do it again. I'll take eight. Watch me do it again. Okay. Uh.

Twenty. Forty-six, please. Twenty. Ninety-nine, pug. I'm gonna go... Twenty-one....six. Uh, 26 please. 20. 99 Pug. I'm going to go 67. Show me an eight. Show me what Max doesn't like to do to thick cheese. 38! Love you guys. I'm to say I'm saved anyway Today is another day to finally shine away

I'll be coming for your love of the games Take on me, take me up I'll be gone And you'll be He loves to say I'm heartless and innocent But I'll being so little brave But I know life is okay Say up to me At least I'm better to be safe than sorry

Say up to me At least I'm better to be safe than sorry I'll be gone in a day or two Take on me, take me on I'll be gone In a day or two Take on me, take me on Be gone in a day or two you