Pardon My Take - Kenny Mayne, Randy Moss And Blake Bortles Is A Packer

Episode Date: May 14, 2021

Blake Bortles signs with the Packers to mixed show reviews (3:01 - 8:32). NFL schedule release and notable games (8:32 - 22:11). Hank and PFT Mayor’s bet for Caps/Bruins (22:11 - 28:35). Randy Moss joins the show to talk Baffert and Preakness Picks (28:35 - 44:41). Kenny Mayne joins the show to talk about the end at ESPN for him, his favorite moments, memories and sports media (44:41 - 91:29). We finish with Fyre Fest of the weekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Welcome to part of my take, presented by Sport Clips. Go check them out, 1,800 locations nationwide where guys get their haircut. Today is Friday, May 14th. And Blake Portals a sign with the backers. I'm very happy for a friend, Blake. I think that this is a good landing spot for him. I think the packers see the direction

that the league's going in. You need a quarterback that can move. He's got the highest yards per carry of any quarterback in the NFL I think in the last five years. I think Blake, I think this is gonna be a great system for him up there. I have a question. Blake Portals, did you guys see his headshot was released?

Is that old? I didn't see it. I'm not, I'm trying, I'm a good friend. I'm happy for Blake Portals, because he has a lot of hair in that picture. We all know of him as a bald guy. This is rookie year picture. Yeah, it's his rookie year picture.

I mean, I would do that too if I were a veteran. I'd be like, I'll just email you my picture. He's a bald guy. It's gonna be cold for him up there in the wintertime. He does know that snow is wet. I'm being bullied now on text message by Blake and Jared, who are just bullying me. So Jared Goff, Lyons head coach, and Blake Portals now,

or Lyons quarterback, and Blake Portals now quarterback of the Green Bay Packers. I, listen, I'm happy for Blake. I'm a friend, I'm a consummate friend. That's all I'll say. I'm a friend. Are you rooting for him? No.

Is it a group text or are they trolling you simultaneously? They're trolling me simultaneously. If you get it, if Blake gets into the game against the Bears, you're not gonna root for him to perform well? No. I don't want him to do bad. I think some things are bigger than sports, big cap.

No, I want him to. So you're rooting against our friends? No. No, I think it's a blowout. What? You always root against our friends. Bears are up by 30. The Bears are up by 30.

What do you mean? Do you want Blake to score? I'm having trouble computing this. The Bears are up by 30 on the Packers. Yeah. Yeah, then I want Blake to do well. Okay. I want Blake to go 15 and two, both losses to the Bears.

The Bears beat the Packers in the playoffs and then Blake gets a $300 million contract. I mean, I think that would work out well for everybody here. That would be awesome. That would be great. I think it's a smart move by the Packers. Do they have, do they have Tesla Chargers

in Green Bay, Wisconsin? I think Blake is the only Tesla owner in Green Bay. I hope every grocery store has like electric car parking up there and Blake just gets to park right up front wherever he goes because there's never taken. I am actually happy for him. I'm very happy for him. He is a friend.

He's been a long time friend on the show. He has to come back on and maybe what I'll do is I'll probably just try to get him to bash Aaron Rodgers. He is sabrametrically the least likely quarterback to quit the Packers to go host Jeopardy. That's true. I don't think that's true. I don't think Aaron Rodgers could host a Wikipedia club.

Nope, absolutely not. Absolutely not. You see two Tesla destination Chargers in the city of Green Bay, 201 Main Street and 465 Pilgrim Way. Thank you, Jake. Thanks for actually looking that up. That was fantastic.

All right, we had- Do you think that the Packers have contacted Andrew Luck? No, here's the other thing. And this is a good segue to the schedule release. I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, week one. I still do. We have our friend of the program, John Kuhn,

acting as an intermediary to the public, saying that he thinks there's a way for them to come together, which essentially means the Green Bay Packers are gonna pay Aaron Rodgers a shitload of money. And the NFL schedule came out and there's five prime time games for the Packers. I'm not trying to get woke,

but I think they're probably like, you know what, he's gonna be a Packer. You are there just trying to get Aaron to show up and play because Aaron likes being on television. Yeah, but could you imagine if, I mean, if Jordan Love is, maybe it'll be Blake Bortles, but if Jordan Love starts and he stinks

and they're on five prime time games, they think that Aaron Rodgers is gonna be a Packer. So, or they knew they were gonna sign Bortles. I'm not gonna let myself get excited about the idea that Aaron Rodgers won't be on the Packers. I think it's impossible. I've already have like a, full disclosure,

I have seven to eight Photoshop pictures of Aaron Rodgers in a Broncos uniform in my phone right now. Guys, I've got some news about Matt LeFloor, because much like you were texting with Blake, I hit the other side. I texted Matt to tell him to take care of our special boy Blake up there. He's a green bubble guy now.

He's had a rough off season. Very rough off season. Peace. Him and Melinda Gates, actually she, Melinda Gates got to flip back to blue. That's probably great for her. She doesn't have to pretend to use Bing anymore. She shopped for vibrators.

Yes. Whoa, bonk. I'm just saying, well, and I'm saying Bill can't. That's a bonk. I mean, I've used Windows 2000. I don't think that Bill Gates is gonna be able to find a clitoris. I'm saying, talking about Melinda Gates's pussy.

We promote self love on this podcast. All right, so the segue to the schedule release. I am so over the fact that the schedule release is supposed to be some big deal and then it just gets leaked all day. It's the least, it's the worst kept secret every year on the day of the schedule release. You know what?

It's become different. They flipped it on us. Right now, the schedule release, the most important day is the day that they announce when they're going to announce the schedule release. Which was on last Friday. They're like breaking news. We can officially confirm that the schedule release

has been scheduled for next week. Yeah, but it's just so stupid because it's like, if you wanna make it a big deal, I'm all for that. If you wanna make it a big deal, like the bracket coming out, make it so that no one knows it. There's no leaks.

It's fucking, like the NFL's the only one who knows it. The teams don't even know it. But because all the teams get, and there are some funny videos. The chiefs had a really funny video where they had a clip of Andy Reed saying, we're excited to face the challenge of Team Axe. And it's real clips of everyone on their schedule.

I think the Chargers had a funny one with Bosa. Like there's some funny, cool things that social media teams are doing. But it just gets, so many people know the schedule beforehand and everyone has it. Like I got, someone sent me the Bears one, like eight o'clock in the morning on Wednesday.

Yeah, because they have to tell the teams because they have like Justin Bieber concerts that come into town. They're like, okay, we need to make sure the stadium. Yeah, it's just. Is accessible on this day and that day. So people in the building have to know ahead of time. But yeah, I missed the buildup and the drama

of having it all come out at once. I couldn't keep track of which teams have been leaked. Right, exactly. There are too many leaks. Because once I was catching up with one leak, there's another leak. Like, hey, have you seen the leak yet? And I was like, I'm still mentally trying to think

of the first leak that I saw, which was the first game of the season, which I've already forgotten. I didn't even get, that was the big crime. It didn't give me enough time to process the big days, like the thanksgivings, the opening days, the Christmases, the day after Christmases. We have an awesome Thanksgiving schedule.

So Bears Lions, which that I won't even count as awesome. I just won't, because that's usually the game that's the worst. But then we have Raiders Cowboys. So John Gruden in your living room on Thanksgiving Thursday. And then the nightcap, Josh Allen versus James Winston is gonna be incredible. And I'm just excited.

I have a few notes that I like circled. The first one I circled was week seven, Monday Night Football, the Saints at Seahawks. I think that will be the first moment where we're like, oh yeah, Drew Brees isn't on the Saints anymore, because we'll be waiting to watch Monday Night Football and for Drew Brees to break some record that isn't there anymore.

Yeah, and then there's Tom Brady going back. His old stomping grounds. Week four. His college friends are meeting his old high school friends, taking the back up there. And that's probably gonna be the weekend where he breaks one of Drew Brees' records, I think. Yes, probably, probably.

They have that circled. Hank, what were your thoughts about that? I know that you felt a certain type of way about your old friend, Tom. People were saying I was salty. All I said was the analogy didn't make sense. He said high school friends versus college friends, you go to high school for four years

and you're in college for four years. He was in New England for 20 years. He's been in Tampa Bay for one year. So I just said it's more like your lifelong friends of 20 years meeting your new coworkers that you moved to a different destination for and have been there for one year. And we're extremely successful with.

Which is a fact. And after your old high school friends were like, we don't want you back, get out of this town. Better partying, more fun to be around. Weather's nice. Want me to be the biggest bet in my life. Better coach. You're not gonna make me feel bad about it.

Tom Brady Sr. said they're fully expecting to destroy the Patriots. So there's definitely some bullet and bore material. I love Tom Brady. I've always said it. If they're not playing the Patriots, I'm rooting for the Bucks. But I obviously hope the Patriots

fucking want the floor with them. I have a theory about Tom Brady Sr. I think that he changed his name to be Tom Brady Sr. after Tom became so successful. That's what I would do as a dad. Like if my son starts winning Super Bowls, boom, I'm changing my name. So everybody knows him.

That kid's dad. Yeah, that would be a power move. We have the London games back. London games are back. One of the greatest London games that I'm just. But they're Mexico City games. But they're London. They're in London.

But they're Mexico City games. What do you mean? I think there was supposed to be a Mexico City game, but because they. The Raptors play home games in Orlando. They're not up to date with the COVID protocol yet. So they're doing it in London, but they're calling it a Mexico City game.

It's like when they do Saturday Night Football and it says Thursday Night Football. Correct, correct, that makes sense. So the Dolphins vs. Jaguars in London, that is going to be a hilarious game that no one's going to watch, but we're all going to watch. Well, you know, people are going to watch it.

Like, I love watching. No, no, no. It's 9 a.m. You didn't listen to what I said. I said, we're all going to. Everyone's going to be like, this game sucks. We're not going to watch it. And then we're all going to watch it.

No, I'm going to watch it. You better believe I'm going to cruise Instagram before the game, looking up the hashtags for Jaguars fans and Dolphins fans over in London, going like full body paint. The old Jaguars outfits where they actually look like Jaguars. Yeah. And then you got Trevor Lawrence over there.

That'll be interesting. And it's Dolphins. Dolphins and Jaguars. Yeah, so you got, those are two fun. Those are two teams that should absolutely, under no circumstances, ever be playing in England. It's a fish out of water situation. Yeah, it's a bad color game.

And it's in London, so it'll be great. I hope the Dolphins go like their brightest, candiest-ass team. Yeah, yeah. And then the Jaguars do the color-changing helmets, the throwbacks to two years ago, just for that one game. The easiest schedules, Cowboys and the Eagles. I saw people being like, this is unfair.

Well, it actually makes sense. And it's the beast. Well, when you count the easiest, most of the time it's the easiest schedule because of who they're playing that made the playoffs. Well, if only one team made the playoffs in your division, it's going to be obviously easier. But that's the easiest schedule I saw.

Who's the hardest Steelers? I don't know who has a... Bears were like three or four. I feel like Nate Sudfeld probably got the Eagles the easiest schedule. That game actually changed the tide of the entire NFC beast for probably the next three or four years. Yes, yes.

Turns out that maybe it was a smart move to do. But yeah, the Steelers kind of deserved to have a tougher schedule. I want to say it was the Steelers. I'll look. All this doesn't matter. This is really just an excuse to talk about football in late May because none of this matters.

The Raiders have the hardest. And then the Steelers. Okay, do you have the list? Yeah. Where are the Bears? Five? Raiders, Steelers, Texans, Lions, Bengals. Okay.

Are the Texans even going to show up this year? No. I feel like they haven't, they've just kind of accepted the fact that they're not going to be a professional football team. Yeah, if they just forfeit every game, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. There's our 22, the R word, they're 27.

In terms of easiest? Strength of schedule. What? I'm looking at Warren Sharps Twitter. What did he say? He's probably got a proprietary formula. I'm looking at a graph. And what does it say?

It says the Strength of schedule. The Redskins are 27. That's not the team name. The Bears are 22. They don't have a fucking team name, they don't have a nickname. We don't need a nickname.

Until they do have a nickname, I'm not going to give them any respect. You don't need a nickname. You don't need a name. You don't need a name. You need a mascot. You need a mascot. We made the play out.

This is going to be great because we have an interview coming up with Kenny Mayn where it's like, we don't cut out any of our mistakes. And it's like, you're just seeing it live, right? It would have been sweet if the football team had done their schedule. You need a mascot. Like different teams that Ryan Fitzpatrick has played for.

And we're playing against the Bills this weekend. Playing against the Dolphins this weekend. We don't need a mascot, Hank. I've said this a million times. We don't need a mascot. We're a football team. We play football. The fact that you need a mascot

to get pumped up for a football game actually tells me you don't really love football. No, I just care about the kids. You love cheering for a cartoon character on the field. I care about the kids. Okay, Hank, this is just the schedule grid. Five easiest schedules? Is this opinion?

Is Warren Sharp giving opinions on here? Look at the tweet I said, had the five easiest schedules and the five hardest schedules with a close bonding graph. By when? Yeah, so 22 is the hardest. Like 32 is the hardest.

I have- 32 is the hardest. Five easiest schedules. Right, right. But when you said Bears 22, Washington football team 27, that's not 27 easiest. That's the 20, that's flipped.

Five easiest schedules. Number one, the 49ers. Number two, the Broncos. Number three, the Browns. Number four, the Dolphins. Number five, the Bucks. Five hardest schedules. The Bengals, Lions, Texans, Steelers, Raiders.

Right, but right before that is the Washington football team. And then the, like, the, okay, whatever. Yeah, we're on the same page. I know, but when you say 22nd, I always, I immediately think easiest. I literally am just reading numbers. Yes, reading.

The Redskins are 27 on this chart. I wanna know. Bears are 22. What is formula is? Cause I'm looking at something else that has a different. It's proprietary. It is proprietary.

I see. Yeah. There was also one other quirk. The Ravens, I think they have like a month and a half where they don't have a road game, which is pretty sick. I always love looking at those like, oh my, how could the NFL do this to a team? Where you have like a Sunday night game,

a Thursday night game, a Sunday night game, and then like a Monday night, or a Monday night game to start. And then Sunday, then Thursday, then Sunday. Yeah. I like looking at that because ultimately it gives you something to talk about when it comes to the NFL season.

We're here. It's gonna be totally meaningless. Yes. Absolutely meaningless. The Bears don't have any back-to-back road games. That was the only plus I saw. What do you got, Jake? Usually you get a buy after London.

The Dolphins don't have that. What? They play Jacksonville Sunday, October 17th. It's a Mexico City game. And then Sunday to 21st is Atlanta. It's a Mexico City, dude. Oh, but still. They usually give you a buy after the national games.

I would just stay over in London if I were them. That way you don't have to fly back and forth. It's gonna take me so, it's gonna take me at least three years to wrap my head around 18 weeks. Like just seeing it, football is just gonna go forever. You know what I'm doing? Which is great.

You know the Super Bowls on February 13th? That's awesome. We're getting close to the dream, baby. It's so close to the dream. It's getting just that much closer to March Madness. So I think what we should do is, this is what I've been doing when I'm looking at every team schedule.

I'm just predicting what I normally would predict and then throwing a tie in at the end. Got it. So I'm like, okay. 10, 6, and 1. Let's take a look. The 49ers, I feel like they're gonna be new quarterback. Probably eight, eight, and one this year.

Yeah. The Broncos, they're gonna be five, 11, and one. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's just, I don't like, the numbers don't compute in my head anymore. Like saying, oh, this team's gonna go 12 and five. That's just wrong. It does.

It feels bad. 13 and four. That's wrong. Like seven and 10? Yeah. Two and 15? That's gross. It's so gross.

I would almost rather finish one and 16 than two and 15. Yeah, or oh and 17. That would be incredible. Man, imagine if a team, you know what's great about this season is a team could win 17 games and they're undisputably the best NFL team of all time in the regular season. That's true.

No team's ever done that before. That's true, yes. The magic of numbers. Stuff that fucking champagne bottle up your ass, Mercury Morris. All right, anything else before we get to our great interviews? We got Randy Moss, then we got Kenny Main.

I thought I had one other thing, but I can't remember it now, so fuck it. The Yankees managed to get COVID somehow. Oh yeah, I saw that. The Yankees did. They did get COVID. That's great, they're all vaccinated, right? Yeah, and oh, do you see LeBron dropped,

they dropped the banner, which is weird. I didn't realize that they were doing the banner night like last night or two nights ago. Yeah, and someone else would remind me, I'm kind of a LeBron standout because he's a Red Sox owner, but he did say, I'm not gonna be back for tonight's game, but more importantly, I will be there for the ceremony,

meaning that he's more focused on things in the past and not more focused and prioritizing the present and the future. For the kids, they're kids that are at the game. You'd think it'd be more important for him to play in the current season to try and win an actual championship in a real year versus celebrating a fake championship during COVID year, but I'm LeBron stand,

so I'm not gonna say this. I have a worry. I think that LeBron James could ruin the entire NBA playoffs because he refuses to get vaccinated. Yeah, that's absolutely a story. It'd probably be better if they lost the playing game for public health. I think LeBron's gonna be like Willy Wonka coming to the

gate, like he's just hobbling, hobbling, hobbling, does a tumble, and now he's just dropping triple doubles in everyone's face. Like I think he's gonna be fine. No, I totally believe him when he said it. He doesn't think he'll be 100% again. It sucks. That wasn't set up at all.

He's playing mind tricks with me where I'm like, yeah, do you know what? The Lakers do kind of suck right now. Like they're not gonna be healthy if they have to play the play-in game. That's even more games. And then I just deep down, it's kind of like the Aaron Rodgers playing for the Packer,

like deep down I know LeBron is gonna just start yamming on people and I'll feel so stupid for thinking that Utah Jazz are gonna beat the Lakers. I think you're giving LeBron James a lot of credit when it comes to the strategy. You're saying that LeBron James, unless- Can turn it on? Yes, yes.

Unless this is a strategy that was written on the very first page of the art of war, I don't think that he's got this shot his book. I don't think that he's like- It's not a strategy. I think he just knows at this point in his career, the regular season does not matter and it just doesn't matter.

He knows that he just has to play really good basketball for a month and a half. So he's gotta switch. I'm saying, I don't think that he's, I think he truly believes that he'll never be 100% and he's saying it because he's LeBron and he loves to hand it up. That's exactly where you're wrong

because he does, in this moment, right this second, I agree with you. LeBron James thinks he'll never be 100% again. But then when he starts playing playoff basketball, he's going to be like, write an Instagram post like two week old LeBron, two weeks ago LeBron, be like, two weeks ago, you thought you'd never be 100%

and look at you now like old head dunking on people. This is incredible. I don't doubt that for a second. I'm saying he's not planning that. Yeah. This is not like a master plan. But he'll surprise himself. He'll surprise himself and he'll be like,

it's always darkest before the dawn. Yeah, like I can't believe it. Something I didn't know until I had to walk through hell to get to heaven. Thanks to you. Zero dark 30, 23. Thanks to you. Second week of May LeBron.

I am the man that I am now in June. Correct. That is absolutely what's going to happen. Put a mark on this because I'm pretty sure that, yeah, we're on the same page. I just don't think that LeBron doesn't plan these things. He just always finds himself in these situations. He's always overcoming it.

So yeah, I mean, I'm excited for NBA playoffs. I do think that the season went on too long. Like I know that they played less games than usual, but I just, it should have started two weeks ago. They should have played 60 games, 62 games. All right, let's do, oh, and we have, are you guys going to do any type of bet? We should talk about that.

Yeah, so we've got Amherst, but we've got- Capitals and Bruins. Well, we've got the regular season of NHL hockey wrapping up at the same time, concurrently as a playoff start. Somehow they've managed to figure out a way to schedule that in there. What do you mean?

There's still a regular season games going on this weekend as the playoffs have started. So you don't, if you're watching hockey on television, make sure to look for the little Stanley Cup logo in like the bottom right corner, which is where that's a playoff game. But it's Bruins caps this weekend. It's down- What's the first game?

At US Arena in DC. Great schedule. Every other day starts on Saturday. Saturday night. We're trying to knock great schedule for us. No, well, it will become great because it will go Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, Tuesday.

Bruins are gonna, it'll be over by the time it gets to Saturday. This is the Chara, the Chara revenge game. True. I like it. If you're watching on NBC, it's a playoff game. Boom, love it. All right, so Hank, Mayor's Bet? Yeah.

Loser has to buy a cat. Loser has to buy, has to purchase Hank's budding plants. We're at like $72. Oh, okay, so? Getting closer and closer. What do you think, Hank? That's $5,000. We're taking something summery.

You know, summer's coming up. Oh, Hank's gonna work a vacation to this. Or like a bathing suit or like. I'm gonna buy you a bathing suit. We're gonna go bathe, yeah. A bikini? Loser has to wear a bikini to work for a week? I don't do swimsuits.

How about Loser has to make the other person novelty drinks for the next for a week of shows? So Monday, Wednesday, Friday. No. You just wanna get drunk during the show. You guys gotta both get a cat, a hairless cat. Maybe we adopt a cat and then get, and then we have to find a new home for it.

Ooh, Loser has to take, we get a cat that lives in this office and Loser has to take care of it. Well, we do have a mice problem. I know. It's like a bodega cat. I'm fine with that. I don't think the powers of B would want it. What, why would anyone get upset about that?

You think so? Yeah, I think we've said it before. They're like, no. All right. Well, let's let the listeners, yeah, submit some things. Yeah, yeah. We'll take submissions to it. I'm leaning towards, I like the novelty drink

the more I think about it. Yeah, of course. Summertime. This is not even a bad bet. No, it's a good bet, Hank. That's the easiest bet ever. And then the winner, the Loser should also make enough for themselves too.

The bet should be the winner should be the listeners. Wow. That's selfish of you. Extremely. Yeah, the winner should be the listeners. I like the novelty. The novelty drink is not that, okay, fine. The novelty drink.

I mean, when measures make bets, the winners aren't the Constitutes of the. Yeah, I know, yeah, there we go. Oh man, Constitutes, whatever. The Constitutes of the South. The Constitutes, Constitutes. They're actually cousins of prostitutes. Okay, how about this?

In order to make the winners the ultimate listener, we'll do the novelty drink thing, but it has to be a really big novelty drink. So the person gets drunk during the show and then everyone's like, oh, that's so funny. And then they really lose, yeah, yeah. Okay, we'll think of it. I think you could do the novelty drink,

but I think listeners should think of something that they can win. Like whether it be, I don't know, they have to do, the loser has to do something or a picture or something. I don't know, whatever it may be, we'll figure it out. But you guys are ready to go. You're locked in.

I'm feeling confident. Like I said, it did feel like a couple of weeks ago when there was the whole Tom Wilson incident. That sounded like the start of a championship DVD. I think it's the Caps year again. The Caps year, yeah. The only thing I'm struggling with is, I'd like to incorporate a cap into a T-shirt for Caps year,

but then if it says like Caps year on it, then people are like, yo, that's cap. Someone can immediately tell that like, they have an immediate put down. So logically it doesn't work, but I'd still like to work it in somehow because cap's so hot right now. So we'll have to figure that out.

So hot. Cap and saying, and saying that eight, I like saying that too. So hot. That eight. I love that for you. Yeah. Oh dude, I love that fucking Instagram tag.

When it's like, I love this for me, it's the best. Then like, I'm living my best life. I love this for me. I love what's going on for me right now. All right, let's get to our interviews. We've got Randy Moss talking about Medina Spirit, giving us a winner. And then we have a great interview with Kenny Main.

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Okay, we now welcome on our favorite recurring guest. He's wearing a recurring guest shirt. It is Randy Moss, live from Pimlico. He's actually outside of a barn with birds chirping, the sun is shining, we have the preakness. Randy, great to see you. Let's quickly try to get a little, wrap our head around what has happened

in horse racing in the last week. Not great for horse racing, but give us the expert analysis of everything that's gone down with Medina Spirit and Bob Baffer. Sure, and that's actually, Medina Spirit is in one of these stalls right behind me, along with a concert tour. I decided to give you guys the big time treatment

here at the six barn. Oh, wow. Don't pee, don't pee. Don't pee on any hay. There's somebody back there with some cough syrup behind you. Yeah, don't do that. Be careful. Hopefully the blinding glare off my forehead

won't distract you guys from what I'm gonna tell you here. So there are a couple of points I think that people don't really understand that need to be made. I mean, first of all, a couple of years ago with all the horse breakdowns in California and elsewhere around the country, the horse racing industry made a concerted and actually a noble attempt to completely dial back

as much as possible on all medications that horses have in their system during the running of a race, especially medications that could have the possibility of deadening pain that horses feel during a race which would not be good for the horse, right? Or the jockey, you know. So that's where we got to where we are now,

where even incredibly minute traces of medication in horses' systems on race day, medications that wouldn't have any impact at all on how fast the horse ran, can still trigger a positive test, okay? Bob Baffert, the trainer obviously of Medina Spirit and Concert Tour, has had four or five previous occurrences

of positive tests over the limit of these permissive medications even before we got to the Kentucky Derby. Okay, rules are rules. Every trainer in the Derby knew the sensitivity of the tests and they understood that even though the rules might be a little draconian as far as what the horse can have in his or her system,

that they had to take every precaution to make sure that that didn't happen. All the other trainers apparently successfully navigated that. And once again, we're in a situation where a Bob Baffert horse did not. Rules are rules. And if the split sample comes back

to the second sample that the Baffert is sending out to verify presence of beta methazone in the horses' system, if it comes back positive, the horse is going to be disqualified almost certainly from the Kentucky Derby and there's gonna be a long court. It's long drawn out lawyering and court cases and all that.

This time next year, we may not officially know the court outcome of the Kentucky Derby but I feel pretty confident in saying that the horse will probably be disqualified. Now, the second thing I think people need to know. The real victim here in all this is the horse. The little horse ran his heart out in the Kentucky Derby and the amount of beta methazone

that he had in his system, absolutely positively in my opinion and according to the opinion of some of the top veterinarians that I've talked to, made zero difference whatsoever in the way the horse ran in the Derby, okay? It was just, I tell you what, it was one, one millionth of a gram of beta methazone that the horse had in his entire system.

We're talking about a thousand pound horse. There's no way that it had any impact at all on the way he ran. So people need to understand those two things. The effort deserves to be punished. The horse probably deserves to be disqualified if indeed he had beta methazone in his system. And secondly, the beta methazone that he had,

unfortunately for the horse, made no difference at all in the outcome of the race. So you're saying on no uncertain terms that the horse is not a junkie? A horse, regardless of what has come out from Mar-a-Lago, the horse is not in any way a junkie. Look, when you go to your water faucet to get a drink of water at home, okay?

Your water might actually have, and probably does actually have some arsenic in it, okay? It's a deadly poison, but yet the EPA has allowed a certain amount of the deadly poison to be contained in your drinking water at such a tiny microscopic level that it can cause no harm at all to humans, okay? If you took that level of arsenic

that you're allowed to drink and you cut it up into 479 pieces, and you took one of those 479 pieces, that's how much beta methazone was in Medina Spirit System in the Kentucky Derby. It's an absurdly small amount, but trying to protect the resources, zero tolerance for any medication,

everybody knew that going in and the rules are the rules. Okay, so that's a great explanation, by the way, because I do think we obviously run with the idea that he was on steroids, not even close, and so I appreciate that, Randy. We should have probably had you on on Monday, because we definitely helped make this a bigger deal.

I was just assuming that Bob Baffert was in the stall, tying the horse off with a belt and shooting him up right before the race. That's a small amount. The way that you put it, it seems pretty small. Can you tell? But there's something confusing here, okay? And even the other trainers are scratching their heads

about it, and we're all scratching our heads. When you're in the Kentucky Derby, and you know what the testing is, something just doesn't add up. I mean, you don't take this kind of a risk of giving a horse what Bob said was a topical cream right up until the day of the race, especially when you're Bob Baffert

and you've had four or five priors in the previous year. It just doesn't add up. It's either stupidity or extreme carelessness and people just can't quite wrap their heads and understand why this has happened. But unfortunately for all of us, it has happened. Yeah, so it kind of answers my other question. I was gonna say, is there any reason to not bet

on Medina Spirit because it was such a fast horse in the Kentucky Derby? And from what I had heard about the drug that it was caught using or had in its system, it wouldn't really affect the performance of the horse that much on race dates, more about like training and things like that in recovery. Are you still saying that Medina Spirit

deserves to be the favorite heading into the Preakness? Well, I will tell you that there are reasons not to bet on Medina Spirit in the Preakness, but they have absolutely nothing to do with anything called Beta Methasone. He got a what, because when the horse was left to starting gate in the Preakness, two confirmed intended speed horses,

Midnight Bourbon and Rock Your World collided with each other leaving the starting gate. That took away all the speed competition, all the pace competition early for Medina Spirit. And he was able to set one of the slowest paces given how fast the track was. One of the slowest paces in recent Kentucky Derby history. He had a huge advantage in the race

given what happened at the start. Now he's a tenacious horse, we talked about it, I think last week before the Kentucky Derby. He's a horse that has never been passed. And if you can get him on an easy lead like that, you're not gonna go buy it. And he fought everybody off in the stretch of the Kentucky Derby.

Now, the Preakness is likely to be run in a completely different manner. He probably won't be on the early lead. Vapford's other horse concert tour will probably be on the lead. Medina Spirit will be sitting a little bit off the pace. And he's run well before sitting a little bit off the pace. But if you're a better and the odds of the horse

in the Preakness reflect what he did in the Kentucky Derby when he got away with such an easy, advantageous trip, then you're supposed to bet against horses like this. So that's the justification against Medina Spirit. Okay, so I had one other horse I wanted to ask you about for the Preakness, Midnight Bourbon, who you just mentioned was a speed horse in the Kentucky Derby. Switch jockeys going from the Kentucky Derby to the Preakness.

How much does that change how you view a horse when you do switch a jockey? I know it went from Mike Smith, who's a Hall of Famer, to Iraad, who's also a Hall of Famer. But what, how do you, like from a handicapping perspective, view a jockey change between these two horses or races? Zero. Zero. Zero. Okay. Zero.

Look, like Jerry Bailey's always teasing me. And we even joked about it on the air. He always says, boss says jockeys don't matter. Okay. But here's, here's the reality of it. When you're betting and you get into a race like the Kentucky Derby or the Preakness, the jockeys involved are all so good and so competent that the difference between jockey A and jockey B,

jockey B and jockey C is negligible. And if there is a difference, it might come out once every 15 or 20 races, depending on a circumstance. And you have no idea when that's gonna happen. So what I tell people is when you're handicapping races like this, just ignore the rider and focus on the abilities of the horse. The only time I would consider

what jockey is riding, what horse, is if the jockey had ridden more than one horse and had his choice of which horse to ride in a race like this. And even then, honestly, I would, you know, I feel confident enough in my own handicapping abilities that I would prefer to use my judgment instead of a jockeys or a jockey agents.

But no, don't pay any attention to I-Red or T from Mike Smith. They're both good. Okay, okay, interesting. And when it comes to not having Bob Bafford at the track, is there anything that a trainer does on race day or leading up to race day that would have any impact or is it like a general manager being banned from, or like a team owner being banned

from watching a game on television? That's what it would be like. It makes no difference whatsoever. As a matter of fact, even before the pandemic, Bob had scaled way back on his travel out of town to major horse races. He comes to the Breeder's Cup. He typically would be at the Preakness.

He typically comes to the Derby Preakness in Belmont. But in the vast majority of major races other than that, Bob stays home. And in fact, in his living room, he's got a couch and he watches TV. He watches NBC, TVG, whatever, whatever's on where he can watch his horses run on what he calls his grade one couch.

He's won so many grade one races sitting at home watching on TV. He calls it his grade one couch. So it makes no difference at all whether he's here or not. He's got one of the top, if not the top assistant trainer in America in Jimmy Barnes, who works for him, who goes on the road and has been with him for decades. He goes on the road with all these horses

in constant communication with Bob. It's Bob's, it's even more than his right hand man. And so he's very well cared for. That's a great assistant trainer named Jimmy Barnes. Yeah, I love him. Are they testing? Do they test the horses for Corona? Can they get COVID?

I don't know. I don't know if horses can get COVID or not. I think they probably could. I don't know if you would know if they had it. I'd like to know that on the day of the race. Yeah. Now they are pre-testing, pre-race testing. Medina Spirit and Concert Tour,

that was sort of the compromise that the Bafford camp made with Pemlico. There were obviously calls for Pemlico to disallow Bafford to run any horses in the pre-gnus given what's happened. But since there's such thing as due process and since as we stand here right now, Medina Spirit is still considered the winner

of the Kentucky Derby until the split sample comes back and he's actually officially disqualified. I don't know how they could have done that. But the compromise is was that Concert Tour, Medina Spirit will have pre-race drug tests that have to come back clean before the horses are allowed to run. Okay, so everyone make sure you watch Randy

on NBC on Friday and Saturday. We know you can't give us a pick for the pre-gnus because you hold that back. I notice you didn't get the Kentucky Derby correct. I did. So just, yeah, just gonna throw that out there. Not a dime back. Can you give us though, my last question,

could you give us a pick for Friday, the Black Eyed Susan, or another race maybe that you like in these two days because everyone will be tuning in? Yeah, there's a race directly before the pre-gnus. It used to be called the Dixie and because of political correctness now, it's being called the Dinner Party. It's, that's the name of a horse way back in the 1800s.

So it's on the turf to race right before the pre-gnus and Chad Brown has a horse in their name, Sacred Life. It looks like an absolute standout. The price is gonna be a little low to bet on Sacred Life, but I think if you hook him up in an X-ACTA with the number one horse, some like it, Hot Brown, that's the name of the horse who's coming off several bad races on paper in a row,

but in his last race, he was caught up in an unbelievable speed duel and ran actually well considering that and he should get a much better trip. So I like the Five-One X-ACTA, Sacred Life and some like it, Hot Brown, in the race before the pre-gnus and I hope to hell my horse has run better

than the ones I gave you last week. I love it. Sorry, sorry. No, that's okay. It's, P.F.D., you got any last question? I was just wondering, like, is there any animosity from the other trainers? Actually, is Medina Spirit right behind you?

Yes, well, he's back underneath here. Can I apologize to him? There you go. I'd like to apologize to the horse. You can't really see Medina Spirit. I'd like to thank Medina Spirit. Medina, I'd like to say that I'm sorry for canceling you, for attempting to cancel you.

You did not deserve that. You're not a junkie. I made a mistake. I jumped to conclusions and I will own that. Yeah, I apologize to you. Okay, he says apology accepted. Okay, all right, I feel better. So to answer your question, yes,

there is animosity from other horsemen because they believe that there was at its most innocent, there was carelessness here and extreme carelessness that didn't have to happen and that it's given the entire sport a black eye. And so there is definitely a feeling of animosity over this. Yeah, but you know what?

Everyone needs, you know, a bad guy to point at. Bob Bafferts, who's the bad guy? Bob Baffert, never seen a bad guy like him, you know? There are people that have even invoked Lance Armstrong. Yeah, yeah, I've seen that. I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far because again, this is not a Balco situation.

You know, this is a therapeutic medication that's used widely in thoroughbred racing, but other trainers pulled way back on when they stopped using it. And apparently that wasn't the situation here. Got it. Well, thank you, Randy. I think we finally have some clarity.

The great shirt, he's wearing the recurring guest shirt. It's really only you, Rachel Nichols and Spencer Hawes that have that shirt. One of our classic plans where we're like, we'll send everyone a shirt and we just didn't do it. But thank you. Good luck this weekend. We'll be tuning in and we'll talk to you in a few weeks

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N-O-O-M dot com slash P-M-T. Here's Kenny Main. And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Kenny Main. You know him because he's been on your television for almost three decades now. He was in the news this week.

He was trending on Twitter because his time has come to an end at ESPN for greener pastures. Are you retiring? Are you retiring from the game? No, our overhead is too much. I mean, we could, but we want to enjoy college kids coming up.

We got, yeah, we have bills. And plus I think I'd get bored anyway. Like I'm old, but I ain't that old. So I wanna keep doing something. Yeah, so I saw you did an interview with Richard Deich who's been on this show and he said, or sorry, was it with Richard Deich? I think it might, yeah, yeah.

And basically no ill will. Your time has come to an end, but they might have offered you a contract that was so low that you had to say no. Was there any part of you though that thought maybe I say yes and just mail it in? Because that's really the American dream, right? Yeah, I wouldn't do that.

I have too much for even on the days where you show up late and you're kind of scattered. Like when is time to do the show? Like I have pride in what I do. Like I may screw around a lot, right? Like you guys do, but I still care about that product, right? And plus you're working with other people. Like you don't want to let people down.

And we screw up on what's called the fixed shows, you know, the last show of the night that's gonna repeat. You know, we all make mistakes. You said the name wrong, you said 18 points and it was 19 and you know those kind of things, right? But other than that, I absolutely always give effort. You know, some nights you have more effort to give and you're better than it, you know, right?

Just like a game, right? You play better one day than another day. Yeah, what was your last day like at ESPN? Was there, did they give you a farewell? Did they give you a gold watch? Did you have to turn in your gun and your ESPN phone? Was there a grand goodbye to Kinney Mayn? Or was it just-

No, well- You tweet in your hour. A clarify, I'm not done. I'm actually, what day is today? I don't know when you run this, but I'm on Friday, Sunday, Monday, I'm golfing Monday. I'm coming in late, just letting you guys know. No, I have seven shows to give based on, you know,

I'm supposed to work till the end of May and it's not like over. I'm, it's a- No, it's, no, you're on this show now, so it's over. Well, I'm going to- Your key card doesn't work anymore. As soon as this drops. You know what, because I'm on this show, you're right.

Maybe they'll say, your services aren't needed, but no, I'm not doing anything bad. I'm not saying anything bad about the company. No. I got nothing to say bad. Like, I loved my time there and, you know, they helped me get into the position that I'm in and it turned out that they valued me at a certain number

and I said, I'm going to go play the over. I mean, that's, I mean, I'm trying to be funny. Like, that's what I'm going to try to do. I liked that and, and let's put it all into perspective. 27 years at the same media company is a hell of a run. We know how this business works and it's, it's cutthroat and there are times when there, you know, there's turnover and people are moving around and trying to get better,

better offers. So I think it's an incredible run. I do want to talk about your beginning though, because I saw the letter. That's far more interesting than the end. Yeah, the beginning though, you sent a letter to John Walsh that said, check these three boxes or whichever box applies. And one box that said, it just hit us.

We love your work. Contract is on the way. Stand by the mailbox. The next one said, keep up the field producing. We'll call you when we need you. And the last one said, we'll consider hiring you about the time ESPN five hits the air. And that was it.

That was the whole letter. It wasn't, was there, there was no resume or anything. It was just that. There, well, they already knew me. See, the backstory of that is, I started out, how far back are we going? Birth, so what was your first memory? I was born, my first memory was probably,

I burned my thumb at age three. It was my birth and my grandma, mom said, don't touch the matches. Well, of course I'm gonna touch the match. I'm a pyromaniac here. I'm going to town, mom, and I burned my thumb. So that's probably my first memory, kind of a bad memory, right?

But I had other great childhood memories and lived out, lived south of Seattle. I always knew I wanted to be in something, you know, communicating, not writing, you know, I didn't know about ESPN. It wasn't invented at the time. And through college, I actually was more interested in straight news and political things and history.

I wanted to be doing like frontline at this point in my career, if I could have mapped it out, right? PBS, PBS is a public broadcasting, okay. So, well, we're gonna fast forward now. So now I'm out of college. I really think I want to be in news, right? I had a brief tryout with the Seahawks. I signed a contract, but I failed the physical

because of the ankle that I got ruined, or that I ruined at Oregon, which we'll talk about with my foundation for veterans. And they eventually said, okay, we're gonna let you on TV. I didn't go anywhere else. I just went to Seattle. That was my first stop, right? Tacoma really, but Seattle Tacoma Market.

And they finally let me in the air, a little station called KSTW, an hour ahead of the rest. And then our other motto was, if there's news on the weekends, it's news to us, because we didn't literally have a weekend show, right? Monday through Friday, that's it. We're showing old movies. They had the Mariner contract.

I mean, it was one of those, you know? So they said, well, you played football, you're doing sports. And I'm like, eh, okay. And I wasn't even that interested. It's really strange. But I started going to Seahawk games, and Mariner games, Seahawk, you know,

the Huskies, all this fun stuff. And about three years later, I guess it was, I did the Super Bowl, Joe Montana to John Taylor, the 49ers beat the Bengals, John Candy's on the sideline, that whole deal. And Al Jaffe, who was right the head of recruiting at ESPN, said, send us another tape. We want to see if that was a fluke.

And so I sent him another tape. I got interviewed, but I didn't know the fifth pitcher on the Cubs was, and they didn't hire me, right? But strangely, I quit the job I had, long story. And I, you know, had to make money, right? I had to pay my bills. But ESPN called me in the middle

of my underemployment period. I would make garbage cans. I sold prepaid legal insurance. I worked for MCI, the Long Distance Company. And I, for about four years, I was kind of like their Seattle correspondent, right? I was sometimes a feature story, pretty straight, not a lot of silly stuff.

And sometimes just go interview Griffey. You know, you have three homers. We want Soundbite for baseball tonight or whatever, right? And I was just kind of at the end of it, like guys, how many things do I have to do until you get that I can do what I'm trying to do, right? And so I sent John Walsh that letter. And this is four years deep, right?

I've been freelancing for four years. And he replied with the middle box. He said, keep up the freelance work. I just talked to him yesterday. I had a really nice call with him. And they hired me about two months later. So when you get to ESPN, I have to imagine that- That was a long story.

That was a great story, though. You just covered like 40 years in about four minutes. You wanted me to hurry. That's efficient. No, the garbage bins, I would, we'll come back to that. Yeah, that's good by itself.

You passed right over. And also, UNLV, I got some questions about that too. But so you get to ESPN, and I have to imagine the process back then for putting together a show is probably completely different from the way that it is now, the way that all the highlights are uploaded.

The entire workflow of the show had to be a lot different. What was a typical day like for you when you first started working in the office at ESPN? Well, it was much smaller for one. There were like two buildings and a portable, like, you know, in junior high, when they're rebuilding the school and you got the portables out there

or the school's overcrowded or whatever. I started out on ESPN too. The origin of that is Keith Oberman and Susie Colbert were the lead anchors, right? The show called Sports Night. Stuart Scott, Bill Pito and Deb Kaufman were called the smash anchors. So it was like a 90 minute,

well, first it was like a nine hour show, then they finally got smart and made it be like 90 minutes or whatever. And it was like Sports Center, little looser, right? Little, you dress like you guys or me right now, like just show up and talk about sports. I remember the Keith Oberman leather jacket. The leather jacket, yeah.

So Keith decides he wants to go back to be with Dan Patrick on channel one, and Stuart moves up to be the anchor with Susie. They need one more guy. You're looking at him. That's how it all happened. And the very first day I get there, they have me, you know,

go what kind of shadow the show for a couple of weeks. And the first day, Stuart Scott in a break rolls up a wad of script paper and fires it across. So I wasn't looking and he hits me in the face. And I look over to see it's him and I picked it up and threw it back at him. And we were boys ever since.

It was kind of like a cool moment. It was like, oh, all right, you did that, I did that. And then we got each other. We used to play a lot of electric football together. It had to have been, I imagine like just some pretty heady times, you know, being at the cusp of something so new in the sports world. Like, did you realize that in the time

that like what you're doing is something that hasn't been seen. You're inventing an entire show, network. You're part of all of this where now we obviously know ESPN forever and it's part of our life. But back then it was, you know, the new kids on the block.

Did it feel like that? Did it have that energy? A little bit. And I didn't answer your earlier question, but a day at life, I'll kind of get into that. Yeah, the olden days, I mean, we had physical tapes, right? Like they would say, you know, tapes for, you know, get to look at your highlight and practice it.

You had a little, you know, zoom it forward. And then they'd announce, show tapes are going down for the 11 o'clock sports. You know, there was that. But on ESPN too, we were a little smaller time. We were just like, it was like a college project. You know, like, what the hell are we doing here? But I was 34, you know, I came in late, right?

I'd done the garbage can assembly and worked for MCI and worked for my local station. I mean, by the time I got there, ESPN was 15 years old. So wasn't, you know, I guess I was on the early edge of it in that sense, but, you know, they had a lot of good people, you know, before I ever got there.

So I was just looking at it like, oh, they're the guys that do sports all the time. I'm doing sports in Seattle. What the hell, let's try these guys. So I don't think I was overwhelmed by it because you had so much good help. We had great people around us that, you know, you got a stack guy and you got producers.

And I remember my very first day though, that I was ever going to be on the air and all I was doing was the smash, the five minute at, you know, at 55 and then the two minute at 28, you know, that was our role. And I was having trouble with the computer. And I'm not really all that technically adept anyway.

It's a miracle that I was able to write. You guys are surprised that I fired this thing up as I did as quickly with the text. So I'm in there and nothing will save. Your sister hit like, I don't know, F seven, something was saved your script and I had to do a couple lead ins and shot sheets were coming.

And Julie Paradise, I'll never forget, she comes up to me, she was my producer, kind of puts her hand on my shoulder and she's like, are you okay? And it's like 412, we're on at five o'clock. So I'm on at 525 or 528, whatever it was. And I wasn't okay, but I pretended I was okay. And for about 30 seconds, I'm not kidding.

I was like, if I just fucking run from this building right now, no one will ever know that I failed, right? It'll be embarrassing with these people, but no one in the universe, right? I just get the hell out, that you haven't embarrassed yourself yet. So then I go out to do my first smash and Dennis Sidori, God bless, he passed away.

He's my director and he's in my ear and they used to say, now it's time for the smash or whatever. And they had this little animation thing in like the three second music or whatever. And I start talking and he's like rookie and it made me laugh because I knew then, oh, it's not my turn yet. And then boom, I did it and I didn't suck completely,

but I think it was good to do that ESPN two thing because it was really experimental. I mean, we were gonna be like four people working on the late, because Stuart and Susie would leave at seven o'clock and when they were done with their parts, the smash guy and Paul Kinney, my research guy and a couple other people, Pam, she did lighting. Phil Jakes, I think was involved.

And we would stay tall, all the games were done, right? We had to stay tall 130 or whatever it was when West Coast was done, but it was just us. It was really fun. It was a whole different thing. And I'm glad I went through that. That kind of prepared me for sports center and other things I would do.

Yeah. And when did you realize that you had something going, like not just the ESPN two thing, but you yourself personally, was there a moment or like a feature that you did or something that you did on the air where you realized like you went out in public and somebody saw you, recognized you and your voice and your style resonated

with them and you're like, hey, I think I might be onto something. I'm gonna try to do more of that type of thing. I think it was the Charlotte airport. And I said, I looked at the guy, I said, don't fucking bother me again. All right. I played it that way.

I tried to be above, no, I didn't do that. I've always wanted to do that. It was always weird. It was weird and good at the same time because if somebody says that, man, I really like your work or, you know, one of those nice comments, you know, meant it's good for you, right?

You reaching somebody like you're saying, and also it's good for you, period, right? That means if they like you out there, they might get back to the bosses that this guy's not terrible and let's keep them, although I do remember at an airport, one guy came up and he started with, hey, you're from ESPN, right?

You're Kenny, right? And I'm expecting, you know, he's gonna say something nice. So I hate what you do. Like it's, you know, you don't respect the sport. You're just out there screwing around. And I just wanted to sit, I just wanted to tell you that. And I'm like, you know what?

That's cool. I respect you had the courage to say that. That's great. Yeah. Watch something else. It is funny because it's, you know, in the late 90s, early 2000s, I think there wasn't that transition yet

where sports are meant to be fun. I think there's a lot more of that now. And a lot of that is due to people like you who made it fun in the 90s, in the early 2000s. So I'm not surprised that some, some person would come up to you and be like, hey, like respect the game a little bit more. Even though I was like, what are you saying?

I'm sorry. The thing is, I think I do respect the game, but you know, if it's team A versus team B and it's Wednesday and it's 1240 at night, you want to do the highlight a little different and be a little silly and drop some reference. You know, it's not hurting anybody. And you're the number one thing.

I just said this on a different interview about like, we always want the score right. We want the stats right. We want to say the name right. And then after that, have your fun. And sometimes we screw it up, you know, and we try to do better. Like one night we're doing top plays, you know,

it's the thing with all the top 10 plays and the scores don't matter in the least, right? Who gives, who gives them, who won the game when we really want to see the bicycle kick? That's all that mattered, right? But I messed up. Well, I was handed the wrong information is what happened. And I said the wrong team won.

It was, it was UMass, right? Basketball. And I got lit up on Twitter, but mostly respectfully, hey dude, we won that game, get it right, you know? And we felt bad. Like, God, we told, we said the wrong team won. Like that's bad.

You can't do that, you know? But other than that, it's supposed to be fun, right? It's entertainment. See, that's, that tells me that you, you still have a little bit of that big J journalism because when we screw up, people don't even try to correct us anymore. They're just like, oh, you guys are doing a bit.

And it's like, no, we're just stupid. Yeah, it happens. I mean, you get late, you're tired. You feel, you know, kind of punch drunk. You feel like you're in Vegas for 30 hours and playing dice and you haven't slept. And it's 2, 17 in the morning. And the West Coast games go into 15 innings.

And except now they don't do that so much. But yeah, you know, we always try to do our best. And sometimes we do better than other times. Sometimes we have shows so clean, like we didn't fix one thing. Like the hour was perfect, let's leave. So other times we don't do that. Do you remember, is there a perfect show?

What's the best show you've ever done? I don't know. We've had the ones that I like are the ones that are a little more chaotic where there was even a screw up, but we made such a joke of the screw up that that made it better. You know what I mean?

We go to color bars and like, that's funny to me. Bring me color bars all day long. Cause I'll just say, you know, we still are in the fight for the technical achievement. And me, we're not giving up just cause that happened. Some other people at the place, and probably any place, not just ESPN are more, what's the word?

You know, just straighter arrows that just think, oh God, we can't clown around about mistakes. I'm like, no man, mistakes are funny. You don't want to make a mistake on a serious story. Like when it's time to do, and we do have to cover serious stories, you know, you kind of like tense up and make sure you say the words right.

And the rest of it though is, guys are playing games and girls are playing games and there's games. I mean, I still respect the athleticism and the dedication. You know, all those things are all true, but I think if you were an NBA athlete and you heard silly stuff we say as they score, you know, like our little, whatever phrase we come up with,

you know, I think they'd be amused by that as opposed to Steph Curry was successful with the three points. I mean, I'm boring. Yes, makes sports fun. I absolutely agree. Is there something, any wisdom that was imparted on you from the one and only Chris Berman?

Because we're big boomer guys. Oh, I'm too. Yeah. I mean, it was my birthday with a very sincere, we talked for about a half hour. It was just, it was very, he felt bad. He was apologizing. His birthday was the same day that it all came out

that I was going to leave. And it was just bad timing. You know, they were going to announce that he's doing some more of the NFL stuff. And I said, I didn't, it was probably like an auto. They probably set it up to put it out at two o'clock. You know, there wasn't no malice. He didn't need to apologize for that.

He was great to me because he, he was just like, you know, he's the Godfather. I mean, without Berman, we probably didn't end up doing, and that's not any insult to Bob Lee and Tom Meese who passed away, Dan and Keith, Bill Patrick. I mean, I'm leaving out names. There's a whole lot of people, Gail Gardner, you know, the original guys who did the first show.

It wasn't just Berman, but, you know, his thing, the way he did the football, all his little phrases, you know, all the names for the players, like it became like, right? It was, it was what we were watching. I watched from Seattle before I ever thought of being on ESPN. I was watching all that.

And yeah, we have high respect for him. I hope he gets to do it as long as he wants to do it. Have you thought about maybe ghostwriting for Chris Berman? Do some of his boomerisms on Sunday Night Football, maybe under a name, a gnome de plume? That's not a horrible idea. You know, I'm going to get into greeting card sales first. I also have a game with tops.com.

Let's plug that thing. I made up a card baseball game that Tops is selling. Oh, what is that? It's called card baseball. Basically, my uncle, Bud, and I, way back when I was like nine, made up a card baseball. We just kind of made it up out of thin air.

It's basically like playing war, essentially, you know, high card wins, but there's a way to make it be a baseball game. And then the fun part is you make your own lineup. So you got your dog leading off in your sixth grade girlfriend's batting second and Ken Griffey senior's batting third. Johnny Bench, probably Lee May.

I'm going old school reds on you right there. Who else I have on my team? I mean, I would basically play the reds mostly and then mix in some friends and some Mariners, but I grew up without baseball mostly because when I was a kid, we had the Seattle pilots who then became the Milwaukee Brewers, right?

They only played one season. So I went about seven years with no team in Seattle. So I adopted the reds because they were world champions. I was kind of a front runner there at age 10. But, you know, I did. And it hasn't worked out since. That was really kind of it. I was there for the big years, yeah.

Right. You actually have to go, but you might have to move to Cincinnati to make the reds great again. I mean, we did that, you know, like playing with football. I probably wouldn't still if I were playing. We would pretend to be, you know, like you announce who you are coming up, right?

And Joe Morgan, you know, we kept stats, man. We were weird. Mark Sansiver, let's plug Mark Sansiver. He's out on Wolf Point, Montana, a good friend. And he broke Babe Ruth's home run record in one summer, the summer of 1972, 790, you know, just some absurd number. We literally kept stats every game.

And we would play from nine in the morning, you know, till two we go swimming, come back, play the evening card. So we probably played 25 games in a day, little three-in-ing games or whatever. Now, was that any, any, that was just the thin yellow bat or was there any? That's a great question because 40 of his homers were later discounted because my sister wasn't home

to go to Value Mart to get new equipment. And all we had, because the yellow bat broke, all we had was that one of the stupid fat bats, totally legal. Totally legal. Yeah, people would play with them. Or a game. Or you stuffed the, what I would do,

stuffed the wet toilet paper, paper towel in the bat and it would give a little, little weight to it. We didn't think of that. That thing would pop. So yeah, there's cheating in here. We had a really cool field on the house I was describing earlier on Starlake and my dad, you know, built a fence for us.

And then we got advertising. We put fake advertising in the outfield to replicate, you know, stadium. Matt McGillen stole a stop sign and that became home plate. I'm not implicated. I was a little complicit in it because we used it, but, and then my sister would come up and sing the national anthem and we would line the field with either chalk or flour

or something, you know. We got to get you out to Stu Finer's house. We're going to go play in a wiffle ball tournament out in Long Island this summer. Oh, I might be honored to have you along. Yeah. I throw a almost unhittable spitball. Like the ball drops literally like a yard.

You just turn your back, saliva, and then you see it fly off and the ball just falls. But I also favor using the softball size wiffle ball and the skinny yellow. Because it doesn't throw at your arm. You can throw a real fastball with this heavier ball. Kenny May has been brought to you by ZipRecruiter. If you're looking for a new candidate for a job,

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And now here's more, can you main? All right, so your arm, I have to bring this up. You obviously played quarterback. You played at UNLV. You were ahead of Randall Cunningham in the depth chart. One guy got it right. Good. Yup.

How far could you throw a football at your heyday? Like 75 maybe. What? 75? Damn. Randall threw it like 85. Yeah, I know. He played in the NFL.

He was incredible. I made 75s a lot. Yeah, I mean, that was all out. That was, you know, running up and, you know, dropping back and stepping up, you know, you'd be in the 60s or something when you needed it. But no, I wasn't great. I had a good arm, but I was probably the chaos you see

on some of my shows didn't transfer to being a quarterback. You know, I was a little, and the other thing too, I came in as a walk-on originally. So I was always trying to show out and, you know, go for the home run too many times. If I had just handed the ball to Michael Morton and Ray Kraus and those guys, you know, Leon Walker, I would have been better.

Where Sam King, who played ahead of me in my senior year, led the nation of passing yards. So it wasn't like I was playing against pretty good guys. It's right to beat him out. He ended up having a free agent deal with Seattle. And he was turning it down to go elsewhere. And my coach said, Hey, if you like Sam, you should look at Kenny.

And I went up on my tryout. Steve Largent happened to be in the building that day. And he comes out, he's running routes for me. I'm like, all right, we're doing okay now. I can throw it anyway. He's going to catch it. So ended up signing, but I failed the physical because I'd ruined my ankle, my junior year.

And that was about that for football. I played like a semi pro league for a couple, couple games, kept trying USFL tryouts or Canada. Now I'm 25 working as a gopher at a TV station. It was time to, yeah, they kind of told me it was time. Cause like how much you do in college? Well, I threw like 90 passes in two years and I have a ruined ankle.

Anyway, I'd love to try out for your team. I didn't have a lot to sell to these people. So how far can you throw football now? I bet I could hit 60. That's pretty good. That's brilliant. I saw you through a fastball. You did the first pitch for Mariners game

and you got what 68? Yeah. And I got to 72 the next year. That's, you still got a cannon. You got to have a goal. My goal was, but it's funny that sounds so lame. You know, it's in the seventies when these majorly guys are at a hundred and plus, it's hard to throw a strike.

And plus, you know, I haven't been training to be a pitcher for 40 years, but I thought I could just do it on willpower. And it's hard. Just getting to 70 is everything you got. Yeah. I mean, a former college. My goal would be 75. In fact, I pitched the thing of the Mariners yesterday

because with our foundation, we're awarding, what's the best word? Recipients. They are recipients of, I don't like to say they were gifting it. I mean, they earned it, right? They injured their legs at war or whatever. We're helping veterans get back, you know,

pain-free lifestyle. This brace I have is insane. I just played golf with it. I can hike. I can play flag football. I can run sprints. And this guy in Gig Harbor, Washington makes it named Ryan Blanc.

And he invented it for the benefit of veterans, right? So when I got mine, I like cried for three hours. Like I couldn't believe my gift. Like I can run again. Like this crazy, no pain. You know, cause my ankle sucks. It's, it doesn't work.

But with this brace, I can do anything I want, right? Not very fast, but I can do it. So we started a foundation called Run Freely. If they want to donate, it's runfreely.org. And I don't know how many men and women we've been able to help. I think we're high twenties at this point

in about three years, maybe 30. But some of the stories are just crazy. Like, you know, you're crying, reading the letter back. They're so thankful and so humble about it. And I want to help other people now. And we got people back working. We got some who went back in the military, but most of them just want to have a nice day

and not be in pain. And this thing, it does it for them. It's amazing. It's called Nexosim. I mean, that's awesome. I'm going to check it out. Everyone should go check it out. We'll put it in the bio of the podcast for tomorrow.

If you had, if someone said to you like, Hey Kenny, I want to say tomorrow, it's now today. Today, you're right. When people are listening today. That's a fix. That would be a fix on the late sports center. We don't fix anything. Okay.

We don't fix anything. Whatever day it is. We're on right now. Wherever you are. Life is live. How come it's not live? Why don't you just be live? It is live.

If you're listening to it right now, you're listening to it live. You're living. We're live as hell then. We're not live. But when you're listening to this moment right this second, someone is listening to this moment in their car on Friday morning going to work.

It's live for them. Okay. Cause it's the first time it's ever happened. And it's life. Life is live. You're experiencing it all at once. But real live is always better than pretend. No, you're doing your TV tricks.

Because Kenny, what we are is we're on demand. So we're live whenever somebody wants us to be live. Like all your Netflix. You get your phone, you push a button and I'm there. I'm in your car with you. Yeah. I got you. You'll learn all this stuff.

You're just a young guy out there trying to find your way. I'm like a walking NFT right now. I'm just, if you want a little piece of this. Nick, can I buy you right now? How much for the next five seconds of your life? That whole thing, I sort of get the Bitcoin and all that. I sort of get it. But the NFT thing, I'm like, hold on.

So let's pretend just as an example, name a guy. Aaron Rogers is going to spin a football on the ground, right? Cause he's so good at that. And somebody, and they're going to capture that. And they're going to blow out, you know, a power station by using computing power to blockchain the hell out of that thing. And then that's a thing, right? It's a physical thing.

And it's a zeros and ones thing. And then you buy it for $20 million because you want that Aaron Rogers spinning thing, right? Yep. And then you're the only guy that ever has it because you're just looking at that thing because you own it. It's mine now. Yeah, just hold on to what it is.

I possess that. Like this t-shirt, nobody else that I know has this one, but it's not, you could replicate it. You could reprint it. Right. You can't reprint the Aaron Rogers spinning it thing. That t-shirt's fungible. These are non-fungible NFTs, bitches.

You know what I would buy? I would buy an NFT of the entire segment you did with Marshawn Lynch at Dave and Boston. Yes. Because that. And Applebee's. And Applebee's, yeah. Don't forget.

Dude, that's a great story, actually, if we have time. Yeah, we do. It is time. There is none. Hold on. Oh, shit. OK, can we do 14 great more minutes? We have as much time as you want.

We have literally, we could do 24 hours with you. OK. But I can't right now. I could come back and wrap up if you know. No, no, no. Let's go. Let's keep going. Give me the Dave and Buster's life.

This is like Bill Walton. This is when we interviewed Bill Walton in two hours into it. He turned to us. He goes, how long does this go? We're like, as long as you want, Bill. Bill Walton called us last night. And I put it on speaker so Gretchen could hear. He's the sweetest kindest.

Yeah. He's just the best. I mean, there's many people I've run across. Jamal Crawford, shout out. Otherwise, there's many others. I've left them out. It's just Bill Walton and Jamal. Just Jamal.

Tripple sucks. No, they're all good. So Tom McCollum still works at ESPN. And he was my producer on what was called The Main Event. And they made that name up. I did not. I thought it was stupid. But why didn't he just run the story?

Why did it have to have a name? Like, what are we doing? But it's The Main Event? Well, it's better than just being like, here's Kenny Main doing something funny, you know? I think also they hired you because they're like, someday we're going to be able to use this kind of name. Yeah.

We also had Main Street. That was another show. That was like, everybody on that show was on Parks and Rec. Like, they're all famous now. So Tom McCollum was my producer. And I'd say more often than not, I would, with somebody or on my own, come up, let's do this this week. Here's the dumb idea of the week, right?

Usually make up something or take a real story and go off the cliff with it, right? In this case, Willis McGehee had left Buffalo. And on the way out, he kind of trashed the place, right? He said, Buffalo sucks, man. They got a Daven Busters and Applebee's and don't even start on the women. I think that was his quote, right?

Marshawn's a rookie now. So Tom wrote a really funny script, like I changed the word or two and we freelance the word or two, but it was really Tom. And Marshawn and I, I'm reading him the Willis McGehee quote. And Marshawn is reacting to it. And then to prove that Buffalo is kind of cool and Willis McGehee was wrong, Marshawn goes out on the town to Applebee's

and to Daven Busters. And we just had a time. We just went out on the town. And we didn't really script as much of that. That was just give Marshawn the keys and tell him to drive the cart, you know, just like a cow. Yeah, yeah. He's a friend.

I love Marshawn. He's like, and he was so misrepresented. All that stupid stuff about not wanting to talk to the media, like who cares? Usually you just want to hear the quarterback and the coach anyway. And there's 53 guys pick another guy. Like he just want to play football, watch Netflix and hang out with his boys and come back and do it again.

Like he just wasn't into that thing. However, if you get him going on a topic he wants to talk about, he'll talk and talk. I hosted his charity event in Seattle once and I had to like wrestle the mic back. He was very sincere. He's very passionate about what he does. He's done so many good things that he didn't care.

He's not like waving his arm. Look what I did. He like passes out cell phones to homeless people to get them connected, right? Like without, right? This modern technology we're living in. So helps kids in Oakland. He came up for a Seattle event for Special Olympics

after he'd left Seattle and they didn't expect him to show. He's no longer any, hey, Marshawn's here, you know? He said he'd be there and he showed up. Legend, absolute legend. All right, so if you had to pick one thing, one piece of work that you're like, this is what I'm most proud of or this is what I want you to watch of my time at ESPN.

What is it? I don't know if you can find it. It's the NFT. I'm gonna give you an NFT, try to find it. Hell yes. So I used to play into all-stars softball games and one year I couldn't make it. I had a horse race to cover or something

and then they never invited me back. It was like, you said no once, you're out. You're not playing any softball anymore. But it was really fun. They'd mic you up and I'm like out there in the outfield. I'm very average at, I can throw the softball but hitting, I was like a 200 hitter or something. I made, I'm looking around, it's like Fred Lynn's over there.

Ricky Henderson's over, it was just bizarre. Like why am I in the field with these guys? But it was crazy fun. We were gonna play in Detroit. Stevie Wonder's from Saginaw, which is close to Detroit. He was gonna be in a concert in Philadelphia like a couple of days before we had to go out to the game in Detroit.

I called Tim Scanlon, who was then the head of baseball. I said, hey, I got an idea for Stevie Wonder if there's any way to make this happen. But I have to go to Philadelphia and he's like, well, you're connected now. Do you have a patent now? I got nothing. He said, all right, good luck, go get it.

I said, you're sure? Cause I'm not promising anything. He's like, whatever, it's an airplane and a hotel. Like go do it. So I go to the concert, it was live eight. It was when they were doing a worldwide concert to relieve African debt. That was the point of it.

And Stevie Wonder's there and all these other big shots are there. And at one point, I'm just trying to work closer to get the chance to ask one of his guys, can I get a minute with them or you or whatever? And I'm standing outside the fence and I'm kind of looking at all the trailers inside and his assistant keeps on waving. Like Will Smith goes in and talks to Stevie

then Natalie Portman goes in and somebody else, right? And all of a sudden he's looking at me like waving, like, you know, it's big smile. Like, come on, come on, Stevie wants to meet. And like, are they talking to me? Like, how do they know who I am for starters, right? So I start, I was like, all right, I take a step forward and Don Cheadle walks by me.

He was behind me apparently. So that was tough, but I didn't give up. And I met a teamster who gave me a lanyard. Now I'm backstage. You know, I just kept getting closer to the action, right? And I got ahold of his guy. I think it was his brother, Milton Hardaway, and said, I got this crazy idea for ESPN.

Can I get one minute, literally one minute? He says, you stand here when he's all done, we'll meet you, you pitch him, right? If he'll do it, he'll do it. If you don't, he don't, right? And we loaned our camera to BET because their camera broke. So we, you know, we're like being helpful. You guys go first and they interview Stevie.

And I say, Hey, Stevie, which is one line. It's just a joke for this baseball thing we're doing. His line was, I can't be at the all-star game. I have a high ankle sprain. He murdered it in one take. And he had an album coming out. I forget which one it was. I said, Hey, when's that album coming out?

And he said, soon, he walks away. I mean, that, that's it. What's better than that? Yeah. That's amazing. That's, I love that story just because, you know, being in the business and having those moments where you just don't really have access and you just keep grinding and grinding and pushing.

It's, there's no better feeling. No greater victory. Yeah. Where you're like, I didn't have any, I shouldn't be here, but I just like through will and just stupidity got myself to this moment. That's precisely how it happened. If the teamster guy hadn't recognized me, I don't know if it would have worked out as well,

but I'm standing back to talking to Sarah McLaughlin and these other guys are coming. I mean, it was all crazy. It was, it was the best. Did you see that mashup? I think it was on two weeks ago or so on Twitter. There was Guns N' Roses and Stevie doing living for the city and the Guns N' Roses song.

And I know Duff McKagan from that band. And I asked him like, did you guys okay? Did the people just do that? He said, dude, we were in something with Stevie Wonder. Who cares if it was clear? Yeah, right. How cool is that? Right.

Just working up. Yeah. So you guys did a lot of stuff where you were on the road trying to like work your way into these clips, get the right questions, ask the right people. We heard that you spent some time over season Bosnia and that you had a great friend over there named Amir. Do you still remember Amir?

He was like your handler? He was our fixer. They called it. Matt Doyle sent that one in. Is that coming in from Wakefield or somewhere? Aaron. Yes. Amir didn't, he didn't like me.

So every time we went to a different country, the more dangerous is, you know, just the ones where there was, you needed a little help. You needed a little, somebody looking out for you. We would hire sort of bodyguards slash handler, right? And in some cases we needed more, some less. London, we just ran around on our own. But yeah, Amir didn't like me.

It was, that was tough. Just he cut my fish for me every night. I ordered a trout. It was the only thing on the menu I wanted. And he would debone it for me. So shout out to Amir. All right. So what, I mean, this is going to be a weird question.

You see the reaction when you say that you're leaving ESPN. It was all positive. I don't think I've ever heard one person say, Kenny Main sucks or Kenny Main this, like something bad about you. Give us something bad about you. Like if you had to self-scout yourself, because it's crazy, you have in its testament

to your career and working with people that everyone is like, I love Kenny Main. Cause you don't see it often. You know what I mean? There's usually a few people like, oh, he was a jerk to me, you know, going to get coffee or, you know, he yelled at me when I didn't get the right bagel.

What would be the one thing that you could pick it out so that way we can get a front of it? I'm not trying to come off like choir boy here, but I think I treat people pretty well and that mattered more than if I did highlights. Well, you know what I mean? Like my dad always taught me about, you know, treat the janitor the same way you treat the VP, right?

Like they're all humans and we all have different jobs and the janitor's jobs may be more important than some of our jobs. Garbage man is as important a job as there is out there, right? What if your garbage doesn't get picked up? So I just think I come from that ethic and I don't know. I'm not very good at pronouncing some hockey names. That'd be my-

There it is. See, that's good. Now no one can go looking for Kenny Main's weakness because like, here it is. But it is really, it was a backwards way of me giving you a compliment that like, I watched the reaction and again, like being in this business,

I hope someday that I have that, I elicit that same reaction for people where it's like I worked with him and it was so much fun and it was always a blast and he's a great guy. Like I think that really does mean more than hours and hours of tape and being on TV. It's like the connections that you made. So kudos to you for that because it really is incredible.

Well, I had a bunch of good people who treated me well as well. You know what I mean? Like all these little steps along the way, like when I got picked to replace Oberman when he left and Dan was good to me and kind of made me feel comfortable. That could have been weird, you know, but he handled it really well.

And the times where I needed help, you know, like if I'm gonna interview, you know, some soccer player I've never heard of from the Czech Republic, I want help, you know, like give me some questions that I've never heard of this person. If I'm talking Aaron Rodgers, I don't, you know, I'm not writing any questions, right?

I don't think you guys wrote too many down. We just talked. And that's the thing I think sometimes gets missed on the interviews is like, just treat people like human beings. And I think the athletes appreciate that more when you don't exalt, you know, put them in this lot, there's a weird amount probably.

They just are taller or throw better or run better. We appreciate what they do, but they're still just human beings who somehow made a team and made a career out of that. Yeah, I think a lot of times they, they're thankful to be talking to somebody that's not trying to like get them or anything. You're not trying to grab a quote out of them.

And the more they gain your trust, the more you like them, they like you. Then they'll be more willing to do stuff with you in the future. I think that's what, that's what we try to do with everybody that we have on the show over here is like, we don't want somebody to leave our show being like those guys are dickheads

and then have, you know, a bad headline about them the next day in sports illustrator, something like that. I'm fucking offended by everything that we've done here so far, but if you guys want to get to the cool questions. Yeah, so that said, give me, give me some dirt. Give me a headline. Yeah, who you hate the most.

That was my way of setting you up. Who was the biggest prick? Give me, give me, give me a splash. Yeah, I'll play an offline, I'll play an offline. However, honest, this is not joking. You know, are there some people who have, you know, certain personalities that grade you one way? But all in all, like we, you know,

it's a cliche about we're a family, but you know, it kind of is like that. You're just a little team. Like the guys I just played golf with today, we work on these different shows and it's fun just to be together in a different environment and clown around and make fun of each other. And you know, just like regular people, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you mentioned a second ago, but when you got the call up to the big leagues, when Dan waved you over, was he telling you like, hey, just be yourself, do what you've done? Or was there any, was there any pushback at all from ESPN one to have you perform a certain way now that you're on the flagship show?

Like, hey, what you did in the minors over at ESPN two, you got to tweak this and that for a bigger audience? Or was it just like they trusted you and they wanted Kenny to be Kenny? I don't know if they still, if they trust me now actually, but no, I mean, I had done some sports centers. It wasn't like channel two to channel one, like overnight. I had filled in during the summer, I think it was summer.

Keith had left and they rotated a bunch of us with Dan. I didn't do any politicking for that. I didn't mention that I wanted the job. It just kind of happened. They called me in one day, we've chosen you to be with Dan and there you go. That was it. But they handled it like, you know,

I was landing on the moon or something. It wasn't, I mean, it was kind of cool. I mean, that's a big deal that show at the time. It still is, but you know, particularly at that time when people didn't know the results, right? We were telling you for the first time ever the Marlins have defeated the Cubs. No one knows that but us and people who live in,

you know, those two cities. So yeah, I was definitely nervous early with it, like don't screw it up, but he made me comfortable and I just kept trying to improve, you know? So you might not have an answer to this question, but I'm gonna ask you anyway. Do you-

Can we keep rolling? Keep rolling. Yep. Okay, this will be an interesting part of the- I'm gonna go, well, I have two last questions. Okay. One is, do you have any idea what you wanna do next? Have you actually thought about it, talk to people?

Like I'm sure, and people wanna know obviously where's Kenny Main gonna be. Is there any leaning one way or the other of what you would like to do? First thing I'm doing after the last show, which is May 24th, is going to San Diego, to Del Mar, to team up with my daughter

who just graduated from college. So those are the immediate plans. I think that's gonna be a revenue loser out of the gate. I think we're going downhill, we're not. What am I doing? I don't know. I mean, I've heard from more people. First, I should have said it when you brought it up.

Like I was floored by the reaction. Corey Kozak, my good friend, we were joking about, I was like, what if I put a tweet out that I'm leaving and like nine people like it? I mean, that happens, right? You write a tweet, you think it's the greatest tweet ever and everybody's like, whatever dude, you're moving on. And the overwhelming reaction, I was blown away by it.

Like unexpected and I was flattered and humbled and whatever else I was supposed to be, but sincerely. And then immediately different companies that thought I wasn't horrible at what I do, Hey, you wanna talk to us? Let's have a cup of coffee or you know, nothing official. I'm gonna basically, I'm looking at this like my period in my contract is May this month that we're in

to a free agency period, if you will, right? I'm allowed to talk to other companies. So I'm just doing it in public. I'm doing my energy process in public and really taking people behind the scenes. This is the conversation that would take place with any company. I love it.

And if all else fails, you still have what a 72 mile an hour fastball and- And the greeting cards and the tops.com thing. I was gonna say, with an arm like that, the Jacksonville Jaguars could probably try you out at tight end. I'd wanna, I sent Gruden a text and said, I'll be your scout team quarterback. He'd probably do it.

Yeah, he probably would do it. He loves quarterbacks. I think I could run scout team, they ain't that hard. They give you a chart, they're not gonna hit you. I could just throw a 20 yard out or whatever. Yeah, you just have to be better than Nathan Peterman. Yeah. I think this has been a pleasure,

but I don't wanna stiff the next guy that I promised I would do something with. Go, give us a winner though for Saturday. Can I text you that later? Cause I haven't even looked at the forum, but it's not gonna be the Derby winner. Okay, there you go. Then that's fine.

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Why don't we do some sort of Olive Garden trip? Oh, now we're talking. Seems like they complementary through. The listeners can definitely win if we, yeah. Yeah, we videotaped it. But it's- No, no, no, it's- So it's all you can eat and drink, Pasta and Chardonnay.

You have to eat a certain amount or something. Yeah. You have to eat so much- You have to eat till- Until you throw up. Until you throw up. You have to eat or drink until you throw up. Put it on the YouTube.

We'll go live on the YouTube. On Olive Garden. All right. Or should we do Olive Garden? You just have it ordered here. Just Pasta after Pasta ordered to the office. We could do that too, yeah. All right.

Yeah, so Olive Garden until you throw up. You have to eat Pasta until you throw up. You can't put your finger down your throat. And drink Chardonnay. And drink Chardonnay. Bet. Okay. That's a great bet.

Is it a bet? That's a bet that the listeners will do a live stream. We'll hang out. We'll enjoy. We'll interact. And one of you will puke. Subscribe to the YouTube page. Subscribe to the YouTube page.

That's great. Are we gonna stream it live? Yeah. I think that's the point. We'll maybe play some Mario Party or something. Yeah, there has to be a second to that. Yeah. I don't think-

Yeah, no, we'll do something. We'll think of something else. As sexy as Hank looks when he's suckin' down some ZD. Well, I'm not gonna lose. No, we could do, or we could watch a lot. You know, watch a game. We could watch a hockey game and just pound some pasta with the boys.

Fuckin' love it. All right. Firefest the week, Hank. I actually don't have one this week, guys. Really? Yeah. Why not? It's just a great week.

My stocks are great. Bitcoin's great. Have you- Home's great. Work's great. Your relationship with everyone in this room is okay? Yeah, it's awesome. There's not anyone that you've been icing out.

No. To make him feel a little bit worse and he's starting to get self-conscious. I don't know what you're talking about, Pickett. I'm talking about the fact that you refuse to talk to Jake and he keeps asking me. We talk to Jake every day? No, we didn't.

What do you mean? We talk. He's really mad at me. Jake and I talk every day. We just did stool streams. We were in the booth together. It was great. It was a good broadcast.

It was a great broadcast. Near- I'm talking. I'm trying to do my Firefest. Oh. No, it's been a great week. It's been a great week. You guys are like Mike and Mike at the end right now.

You only communicate when you're on camera. Next Thursday, PFT challenged me and Jake challenged me. Pickett's going to be in the booth. So I'm going to get my redemption stool for Thursday at 2 o'clock. I did this for you, Hank. I did this for you, Hank. Because I want you to have another chance.

I want you to get back on that horse. I can't bear looking at you like this. It's the regular season. I'm not going to over celebrate in showboats because you don't see the Lakers celebrating like they won the championship in a regular season game. That's just not how I operate personally. Other people can choose to do that if they wish.

That's not how I roll. Focus down doesn't mean a thing if you don't get the ring. Tournament's coming this summer. I'm focused for that. What tournament is this? Summer Slam's spectacular. Really? The SS?

In July. In the triple S. Oh, OK. So how many S's is that? Cinco S. Five S's. S cubed times two. No.

S cubed plus two. Maybe. I don't know what S cubed is. I'm like, I don't know. So you and Jake are good. We're great. Jake? Never been better.

Do you feel like you're good? I don't know at this point. Yeah, I know. I feel bad for you. I want it to be good. I know. I know you do. I mean, you did a great job promoting

the shirt of your self-beating Hank for the team. Yeah. That was just a podcast. No, that was good. Because people wanted it. I'm saying you did a great job doing that. Hank didn't do that. Like the PMT account on Instagram

said swipe up to emasculate Hank. And then I reposted, but I covered up the emasculate Hank, and I just said swipe up to buy a shirt. I can have that language on my, I feel bad. But I don't know. He feels bad that he's making you feel so bad for me. Do you have a fire first, Jake? You want to go next?

Is it Hank in your relationship, or is he broken? No, I think and hope we're good. I don't know at this point, but. How much time have you spent this week thinking about it? Way too much. I know. I see it. I know.

Secret. You asked me all the time. It ruined my week, if I'm being honest. I know. That's why I think Hank has got to bridge this. I had a great week. Like I said, I didn't even have a firefest this week. Yeah, you've been wonderful.

I think it's been so nice to be at work. It was intended for Hank to be humiliated, but now the tables have kind of turned, and he's having a good week, and I'm not. Right. Because you're thinking about. Well, I'm joking. Because every single person in this office,

it's one of those things where it's like you really find out how people feel about you, because once you take a loss, everyone's fucking show bloating and laughing in my face. It's the only thing people talk about. But that's all right. Well, with Jake. I remember everything.

Jake's entire point about his week being so bad is because that should make you feel way worse, that his week has been awful, because he beat you so badly. He beat me by like two points. Yeah, it was a close match. I mean, you're the best in the office. You're the best one here. Emotions happen.

When you said that you were at the doctor earlier this week, were you actually at HR? I know I was at the doctor. I was getting my third vaccine shot. Oh, nice. Hank, I'm good if you're good. That is good, sorry. Yeah, I'm great.

Like I said, I'm trippin' back. Triple Vaxed up, nothing could go wrong. My foot's been falling asleep way too often this weekend. It hurts. Also, I had a broken foot. We talked about it on Firefest last week. This is Jake's Firefest. I'm not going to say something.

He's not even making eye contact with me. No, we're good. We're good. Are your foot's falling asleep? Way too often. It hurts. I don't know if you guys have ever been in that position, especially when you sit on the toilet for too long.

Yes, every time I take a shit, you get up. And you just feel like you don't have a foot. Yeah, that's literally the only reason that I know when it's time to get up from shit. You have a foot that goes to sleep. And you can't walk. But then it always gets better. Do you guys feel like when your leg's asleep,

that I always described it to TV static? That's what my legs feel like. Yeah, like pins and needles. I always say it feels like Joe Rogan's interviewing my foot. That sort of thing. That went way over my head. My Firefest of the week is Dr. Fauci said it's masks off right now.

Have you heard? Hot Boy Summer. You should start to listen to that song. What? Future. Future mask off? Yeah. OK, I'm going to write this down.

Oh, PFT walked up to me today. His name is The Future. Oh, my god. PFT walked in today and he goes, hey, have you heard Sicko Mode? And I was like, yeah. What do you, like, two years ago? And he's like, yeah, I just listened to it. I was like, what?

Like a light. I thought I was. I thought I had, like. I thought I had, like, gotten knocked out or something. When he said, I thought there was like a new thing. And I'm out on the flight. Where were you? It was all that was playing.

I'm 18 months post-modern culture. Got it. That's when I started to catch up. But yeah. Cap. Yeah, that's it. That sounded good. Yeah.

Did you say that I cap when I'm 18 months? Yeah. You think I'm more than that? Yeah. No, I think you're less. How less? You're right on it, bro. When was Sicko?

You're right on it. When did Travis Scott say Sicko? Like, two summers ago, I think. OK. Yeah. You're right on it. But yeah, my Firefest is masks off, which is great. But I'm getting a cold sore right now.

Oh. And this is the worst possible time ever. Just. In the course of human history. I think that I am. I can't be sure. You ever have that feeling? I'm bald.

Where you're like, I don't know. Maybe. Maybe I'm sick of myself out. Yeah. But I started to feel it this morning. And then the next thing that I saw was fucking Fauci saying, hey, great news. Take your masks off.

I think that we should do one more week. I think if we just go mask one more week, I think that'll be perfect timing. Then everybody will be happy. And we can finally then take our masks off in public. OK, one more week. I just think just one more week. Or maybe I'll let you know on Monday.

Maybe it's OK to do it right now. OK. It might be on my head. My. Don't bonk me. Like. You've hurt me. Like, 80% of people have cold sores, huh?

Totally. There's just a shame to talk about it. Totally. All right, my Firefest is that I got vaccinated today, but PFD stole all the jokes about how. You're not talking about the vaccination, so I can't talk about my vaccination. That's so I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's all right. I'm not going to talk about it. But when I talked about mine, I didn't mean to be. Right. Preventing you from. Correct. Not talking about. So I can't now talk about mine.

Now you almost have to talk about it. No, I can't. Because if you don't talk about it, then everyone's like, oh, it's. It's. I will say this. I am. I do feel like more of a fucking man,

because I went and got the Johnson and Johnson. And it's partly because I'm just lazy. I didn't want to go back for a second shot. Johnson squared. I got the one that like knowingly people are like, hey, that one sketch. And I'm like, I don't care. Well, if you're a girl boss at sketch.

Yeah, it's it's. I was all for it though. Real men get three. No, real men get one Johnson and Johnson and have an 85% efficacy rate. Don't they're going to fucking put the little thing on the bottom of this podcast. Troops is going to be like, plug cluck.

Big cat. Yes, the boys are all vaxed up. Except. Well, now you have two weeks. You've got to wait two weeks. Well, I already had immunity because I had it. So I'm ultra alpha. You know what I mean?

Like I had it because you're the only one that caught it. Well, no, we there's some guy here who had it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Somebody will not be named. He will probably not get back. You know what a good joke is when someone asks you about your vaccine, be like, yeah, it's Johnson and Johnson.

That means docking. Ah, nice. Put them right together. I actually was surprised how easy it was. Everyone should go do it if you can. Not to get getting a shot. Yeah, big cat. Don't get political on your asses.

But it was crazy. They hadn't really set up. I thought it would have been funny if we all got our second shots or our first shots at the exact same time. And then we recorded a part of my take where we were all just very sick. Were we just mouth kissed?

Well, no, we were just like violently. I didn't get sick after my second or third one. So true alpha. Really? That's big time. Damn, Hank. I'm feeling good right now. I'm not, you know, it's been about 12.

Oh, Jake, just give me a look. Hank is the strongest in this office. Just wait. Did you feel sick, Jake? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

That's right. Liam, did you get vaccinated? Yes. So the whole squad's vaccinated. Fuck yeah, boys. Ass off, hot boys summer. I feel like a sucker for getting vaccinated before I even got a burger out of it.

Were they giving away burgers? Yeah, in New York, they're giving away burgers. I could get a burger? That's don't. You're doing a great job of acting surprised right now. Shake check fries? Big cat waited to schedule his vaccine. Big cat was the one target in the audience

to build the Blasio's press conference. I actually saw it. DJs did. You can get like a VIP card to there. Really? If you got like Vax there. Do I have to take it? You have to eat a burger.

That's a way to not get Vaxed. Yeah, well, it's Shake Shack, so. Also shout out Little Sass because he said that when people tweet him saying, I can't believe what the Pardon My Take guy said about you, he immediately listens to the show. Oh, really? So everyone tweeted Little Sass about it.

I can't believe what the Pardon My Take guy said about you. And that's one more listener. I like that. Yeah, he's that vain. So we're just going to do that every show now. Give him a fake timestamp, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give him a timestamp to what was the worst part of the show

today? Probably talking about. Probably trying to figure out the strength of schedules. Yeah, that or Melinda Gates Clatoris. Yeah, there's some real hot talkers. Try to Google the strength of schedules. All three of us at the same time. 99.

The only side effect I got is it made by Taco Bell figures. Oh, man, that's unfortunate. Oh, there we go. Did you do it? Woo. Oh, let's go. Oh, oh, yeah. That's awesome.

Yeah. That also means you have to follow someone on Instagram. I do. Whoa. Have fun with that. Whoa. I have. Love you guys.

What, Hank? This has gone over my head first. All right, so don't stop recording. I have notes. I haven't. Yeah. You, PFT, and I have a bet. We have to follow someone on Instagram.

On the side text thread that we have, where we talk shit about everybody else on the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right, we're back. Yeah. Bonk.

Yeah, you're getting bonked big time for your follow. We've got cows can sleep standing up. This is an inside joke for three of us in the room and none of the listeners. Cows can sleep standing up, but they can only dream laying down. And when you hit the space bar on your computer, 600,000 people around the world are doing it at the same exact time.

That's a lot of good facts. Wait. Just did it. Love you guys. Wait, one, two, three. Wow. 9,998, because you guys are two. Wow.

We're taking it up. Yeah. Love you guys. Hank, maybe part of our bet can be if I win the bet, you have to take care of my Instagram responsibility. Maybe. Oh. Oh.

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