Pardon My Take - Kenny "The Jet" Smith, Sixers/Celtics Game 7 Has Arrived, NFL Schedule Release And Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

Sixers/Celtics Game 7 is here and there is TENSION in the podcast study. Jayson Tatum erases a horrible first 3 quarters with an incredible ending and Hank is gloating while Max is crying (00:00:00-00:20:33). Lakers/Warriors Game 5, the Knicks fight back and the Nuggets absolutely throttle the Suns (00:20:33-00:37:58). NFL Schedule release and we do the dumbest draft ever (00:37:58-00:54:43). Kenny the Jet Smith joins us in studio to talk about his new book, NBA Playoffs, stories from his career and the NBA on TNT set (00:54:43-01:34:31). We finish with fyre fest of the week and the lottery ball (01:34:31-02:05:29).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Now in the street, there is violence, and then there's lots of work to be done. No place to hang out or wash in, and then I can't play all on the sun. Oh, no. We're gonna rock down to electric Avenue, and then we'll take it higher. Oh, we gonna rock down to electric Avenue, and then we'll take it higher. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, May, what is the date? 12th. May 12th, and we have Sixers Celtics Game 7. What we wanted all along PFT has transpired maximum pain for one of these two gentlemen. I like what you did there. Hank is on another on another level, but we should. Oh, you know what? Fucking Hank, go ahead, say whatever you

want to say. Jason Tatum was insane at the end, terrible game for three quarters, looked so lost, and then his dog came out, and he started whapping threes, and the Celtics take the game in Philadelphia, and now we get Game 7, soul patch on the line. It's gonna be incredible. Kind of ironic. I guess it fits that right when his dog came out, that's when it hurts Max the most, but we saw it. We saw it happen. I mean, Marcus Smart, all-time dog guy, for sure. You knew that this was gonna be Marcus Smart game from the start, but Tatum stunk out loud for three quarters. He was one for 13 in the first three quarters. Hank, don't do the not really stunk out loud body language at me. Jason Tatum sucked for three quarters. He was over six. He's over 63. PFT,

you got to understand, and we'll let Hank talk in a second here. He is the true definition of front runner Hank. He was a baby on Tuesday night, didn't speak for the entire stream tonight. He's floating and rubbing it in everyone's face, so we will let him speak. But yeah, Tatum was bad for the first three quarters. He couldn't hit anything. He was missing layups. He was missing everything. But what I've said all playoffs about Tatum, if you're a top five guy and actually he said it after the game, humbly I'm one of the best players in the world. If you're that guy, you have to be able to take your team out of the depths of hell in those moments. And that's exactly what he did. And I actually like, as bad as the first three quarters were, what he did in

the fourth quarter, that's what counts. That's what it is. I agree with you. I'm saying he stunk in the first three quarters, but obviously his fourth quarter and the big threes that he hit, it was like one after another after another, buried the Sixers every time it felt like the Sixers might be able to, you know, bring it close, bring within five or six points, make it a game. I just don't like, I don't like what Hank's doing right now. Let's not, let's not whitewash what Hank did on last part of my take. It wasn't just the fact that he was silent. It was also the fact that you also, you wanted to make everybody else silent. You took your headphones off and then you had diarrhea four times during the show. Fake stomach ailment. Yeah. Regardless if it was fake

or if it was real, your butt caused a scene. It caused a scene for the listeners. So before you comment on this, I'd like you to apologize for your butt last show. I apologize. I had some stomach issues. Hand up that's on me. Thank you. As far as the other comments, I would just say like, you know, shocker that I was upset after we lost and I'm happy after we win. I guess that's, you know, I guess that's called front running. I don't really understand that. No, no. The issue is we do do a show, we do streams and we do a podcast where you have to vocalize your pain. You have to vocalize what's going on. So to go silent, it's not the best for the audience. But listen, you won the game. You get to gloat. You get to rub it in. Max is as miserable as I've seen him

since the Eagles lost to Super Bowl. He's slamming doors. He's screaming. He is as sad as sad could be. So this is your moment Hank, because this is what we wanted all along PFT. We wanted it to flip flop back and forth between maximum like happiness, what you're seeing on Hank's face right now and pain, what you're seeing on Max's face and it's gone back and forth all series along. We get game seven. One of these guys is going to be beyond devastated. So Hank, it's your moment. Yeah, listen, that felt like a game we were going to lose. I was nervous. I guess that, you know, again, I don't watch games. I guess I'm a little bit pessimistic. I get nervous when, you know, I get nervous. I wouldn't know if you're pessimistic because I didn't speak.

That's just not true. We can check the tapes. Big Cat's being a sour post. No, I'm not. But it felt like a game that with Tatum, the way Tatum was playing, they had the most turnovers they've had in the playoffs. It felt like, you know, the game was slipping away. The series was slipping away. Potentially the team was slipping away and to pull that game out. Stop hitting the table. Everyone was talking shit about Tatum for him to have that third quarter. You were talking shit about Tatum. You were the one who was talking. What was me? What was me? No one believed in Tatum, except for me. When you were like the number one guy up there. Am I one? I'm one of everyone, right? That was not the tone that you

were giving. I said the word everyone, which I would qualify in that category, correct? Usually you would say everyone, including myself. Correct. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Rephrase. No, I mean, this is where you guys are trying to put words in my mouth. I tweeted. No, when you say everyone, it does sound like it's like everyone but me. I tweeted Tatum has to do something, all caps, anything he did. He came out. He did what he had to do and stealing that game and Philly. All the momentums are going our way and I just feel like I just feel like I feel lucky. I feel good. Momentum doesn't matter. That's one thing that I've learned is momentum means nothing because going into this series, going into this game,

all the momentum was going towards the Sixers. After the Celtics 1-2, it looked like the Sixers were dead. Momentum means nothing. Game seven is one game. Throw out everything else. Game seven is everything. Nothing matters what happened in the past. Nothing. So Max, question for you, Max. Do you think you should have won game three like PFC? I don't give a fuck about game three. All I care about is game seven. I wish they won tonight. That's what I wish would have happened. We told you to win game three. We did say that. We told you to win game three. Max, do you regret not making tonight a must win? No, because it felt like a must win. You know what's a must win? Game seven, must fucking win.

Are you sure? Yes. Because every time I've said it, you've been like, I don't know. Yeah. And every time I say it's a must win, they win the fucking game. All right. So you're declaring it officially a must win? Yes. Game four was a must win. Game seven is a must win. Max, what did you see? You were up two with four minutes left. Uh, it felt like this was going to be it because Tatum was bad. You say up two with four minutes left, like this is some like epic collapse. No, no, no. I'm not saying it like that. I'm saying you're up two, four minutes left.

Tatum has not been able to hit a single shot. It did feel like this was the game, the Sixers. Like James Harden was atrocious. I'm not PFT. I don't want to say this because I think Max might hit someone in this room, but we did say that James Harden towards the end of series. Sometimes, you know, his, his abilities start to decrease. That happens. It's just sort of, it's a fact based on reality, based on what's happened. See what happens in game seven. Now I, I'm going to stand up for James Harden a little bit because there were a lot of instances in the fourth quarter and the third quarter where James Harden was doing exactly what he

should have been doing, which was driving directly at the basket, making the defense commit and then making the right pass out to the wing. And they missed a lot of open three pointers that should have been easy assist for James Harden. He was making the right calls in those situations. He did some, he did some other bad stuff. I agree. But the rest of his team let him down too. I'm going to stand up for James Harden. Now that's not saying that I'm anticipating like if you have James Harden and Doc Rivers with their powers combined in a game seven, that doesn't look very good for the 76ers on paper, but he did some good things in the second half tonight that probably we'd be singing a different tune if his teammates had

made a couple more shots. Yes. His teammates missed shots. I also do, I'll go the other way with James Harden. He, what happens sometimes when his game isn't looking great is he just runs into the middle of the lane and looks for contact instead of trying to score the basketball that happened a few different times. Also at the end of the game, just give the ball to him, Bede. Like he, he is your MVP. He was incredible defensively tonight. He had flashes where he was scoring at will. Like don't trust like the, like a lot of the sixers guys, they didn't want the ball. And I, I don't know. I mean, maybe they, maybe that's like a team thing, but like they're not, you know what I mean? They didn't really want the ball. You don't think they wanted

the ball? No, no. The way they shot that like how tense they looked, I think that's a, that's a part of the game where it's like, you got to get him be the touches every single time down the court. They tried to force it to and beat a few times and the defense was definitely doing things, credit to, uh, to Missoula for making some adjustments because they were trying to deny the ball a lot down the stretch. You got to hit open shots. I would also say shout out, you know, in games like this, when your stars aren't playing as good as they can be in the first three quarters, the bench stepped up, Brock then had a huge game, smart, had a huge game, white played well. Those are the contributions. Stop hitting the table. It's making noise.

He's going to say it. It is. It's going to, it's making noise. People are going to be mad on the podcast. He yelled at it. He yelled at someone else yesterday for doing that. It was also him. Oh, it was also him. I'm looking out for the listeners. Bench played well. I'm looking out for the listeners. They're going to be pissed when he, when it, when it's just constant bang on the table. Go Hank bench played well. Don't get mad because I'm trying. You, you're the executive producer. You know that listeners are going to be upset if there's constant bang on the table. We got a lot of tension in this room. Well, you're, you're a beer, though, like you, you hate me for some reason. I don't hate you. I just said, don't, I said, don't bang the table. But you said

son, I love that. I love the big cat is doing every, everything in his power just to get under both Hank and Max. And then acting surprised when they, no, no, no, but that one, I am doing that, but that, that one moment was not, I was not trying to get under his skin whatsoever. He was banging the table. He did it twice and I told him, I was like, stop doing it again. Yeah. I wasn't trying to get under his skin. No, we should talk about the banging of the table. Yeah. Don't bring it up at all. Don't bring it up. Don't tweet at it. Because if you think I'm going to be worried about that, you're crazy. What, what, Hank, go ahead, talk about the bench without being on the table. The bench stepped up. They picked up. He almost did. He almost

banged the table there. And Jalen Brown, they didn't get off to the hottest start. Brogdon picked up the, picked it up. Yeah. Brogdon was very good. He was hitting some early threes. And they kept them in the game. So that in the fourth quarter, the stars could shine. And it was crazy. And Robert Williams, go, the coaching decision to start him, I don't know what they were thinking, why they waited so late to do that. I think he was plus 18, unbelievable performance. They showed that stat too, where the Celtics with Robert Williams in the starting lineup, like that specific five was like, it was something ridiculous. 35 and 12. Yeah. So why did it take so long? I don't know. I think it was, I don't know, because he was hurt at the end of the year.

So maybe they, I don't know. I really don't know. But he's so much fun to watch. Yeah. I can see why his teammates play like things might break a little bit differently when he's on the court, just because he sets a tone. And if I like get amped up watching a guy play for my couch, his teammates are probably like, fuck, yeah, he's in the game. Let's go. And it's like, imagine if he, you know, if you're looking at his stats, like he was on NBA Live or something, his offense is like 20%. Imagine if he, if he could have any semblance of an offensive game besides dunks, he would be MVP. Yeah, it is, it is pretty much just dunks, but the dunks were there. Like they were, they were lobbing it to him. They were, he was, he was all over the place.

The Marcus Smartplay towards the end, I like to think that was intentional. I say that was intentional. Oh yeah. When he, when he hit a bank shot that was looked like a lob, or he turned around. No, I'm talking about a different one where he drove to the basket and then he threw up an awkward shot that went right into Marcus Williams hands for an awesome dunk. I think that was actually an out loop. I think he was trying to do that. Hank, confidence going to game seven. Hi, couldn't be higher. Could not be higher. I like I said, I just feel lucky. I feel like things are turning, things are turning my way. I just feel like it's, you know, it's been a good night. It's going to be a good weekend. Sunday's going to be great. I

just feel like good things are coming. Look at the way Hank's fucking sitting right now. He has his feet up at the table. PFT, have you ever, have you ever seen your knee while you're sitting at that chair? Absolutely not. I have a hard and fast rule. I observed like Victorian England rules, which is you're not allowed to see anything. Shut the fuck up, Hank. See, he's annoying PFT. And you know what? You know what? When Big Cat just asked you there, Hank, after all these years doing this show and Big Cat asked you the question, where's your confidence meter at? You have not learned a damn thing from doing part of my take because you're like all time high. We got this. This is Celtics. It's going to be great weekend. Celtics easy in seven. You're confident you're

so high right now. You're so basically in paraphrasing. Classic. But your confidence is at an all time high right now, which just means that the loss that might be impending on you will just crush you like an ant. No, that's that's the loser mentality, you know, of a commander's fan or a bear's fan. Like that's not how I think an actual city of champions game seven best two words. Oh, wait, I thought it was hard being a Boston sports fan. Do you know what I've had to go through this week? Do you know what it's like watching a game? He's had to talk on two different streams this week. Yeah, this week. All right. So Max, your confidence going into game seven. Anyone's game. Oh, no. Anyone's game. What do you want me to say? Oh, there's your scouting

report right there. Scouting report. Anyone's game. And also, we are game from the NBA tonight. We are game from the NBA tonight. Expound on that. Giving Maxi and MB like seven free throws for one play. Oh, yeah, they got they made four free throws and made two of them. Yes, weird. Have you ever seen that before? Have you ever seen in your in your life of watching basketball? Have you ever seen two two free throws made by one player and then taken off the board a minute later and be like, eh, you know what? I want you to make those two again. You know what? What the fuck was that? He just had to. What was that? The gold tending call in the first half was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen. What was that? What is that phantom gold tend? I just wish there

was a way that the overturned foul is obvious. Every 5050 call they were getting. It was weird. It was a weird, weird, weird, officiated game. Let the record let the record show 9588 not 9586. I'll give you those two points. Adam Silver post. Oh, fuck. What's the stat? Big guy help me out. The stat hole sent us a stat and I gave it to Max knowing that he just like, it's a ticking time bomb for numbers in his head. So I gave him the stat. I'm not going to help you. You got to figure out this. It's it's a lot of numbers. Basically, since Adam Silver is taken over the lead, Hank, I'm being just mean to Max. I gave him a stat. I didn't give him any guidance. I just said, here's a chart. You figure it out. And this is where we're at. Since Adam Silver is

taken over the league, the team, the better seated teams going on the road in game six are twice as likely to win. So the better team is more likely to win. I don't know, dude. I'm not helping you. Read it yourself. The wording is weird. It's weird. Hold on. I'll cut this. I think Hank is onto something here. He had the better teams are favored. No, they're better because because before Silver, they were half as likely to win. And then after Silver, they were twice as likely to win. If that makes sense. Does that make sense? Is it because they changed it from two, three, two? Was that a thing? No, it's okay. So no, when you have this specific situation, wait, no, I got, I got, I got the exact. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Since Adam Silver took over,

teams in the second in the Celtics position have won twice as much as before Silver took over. So the higher seed on the road in game six are twice as likely to win. Basically trying to force game seven. Since Silver's, since Silver has taken over, there's been twice as many game sevens in that situation. Happened last year against the Bucks. Tatum dominated that game. He didn't dominate this game, but he took over when he had to. And then game seven was sucked. He did. He did. And Max, you know what I'm saying. When he gets to that level where he just starts driving and looking for fouls instead of looking for shots. Oh yeah, it's infuriating. I mean he was just tripping over his feet and then just, and then just crying. And I, I do a lot of crying as well, but like,

I'm man, I'm man enough to admit it. You want, you want me to, you want me to just take my headphones off? You want me to take my headphones off? Is this a better way to react to that? You can. Yeah, I'm right here. So you can still hear me. Right about that. Like, I'm just really excited for the next game. I really believe in my team. This is how you sounded. And I was right. Yeah, it was a good game. Not happy, but it went how it went. Now you gotta go poop. No. Oh, I'm here. I just, I wish that there was a way that both Hank and Max could lose games. I know. That's really what I know. It's like the series has delivered everything we've wanted. It's just I don't want to see either one of them happy. They're both so much better for the show when

they're grumpy. I know. And it's just, it's just flip flopped so fast. And man, that game, it also, could we just say was a terrible game overall. It was like a tournament game. It was just like guys missing shots, wide open shots, uh, turnovers left and right. It was, it was like watching the NCAA tournament, which I love, but you know, when, when people come after the NCAA tournament, that's what we just watched tonight. Yeah. And I will go back and say that there was, there was one play that Hardin made that made me want to throw my remote at the television, which was when he took it to the hole, smart, just played defense on him and Hardin pushed off with his form like he does. Then Hardin falls on his ass and then looks over

at the ref and just sits down for like five seconds crying, begging for a call. That made me, that made me want to assault James Hardin. Yes. Yes. Um, okay. Should we talk some other games? Lakers, Warriors, game six tonight, late, uh, Warriors in game five. I did give out the game of the month on the show, but it's so funny watching the Warriors and you can basically tell if they're going to win by how fast Draymond sprints back on defense, like off dead balls and stuff that energy he had. He was scoring. He actually had a, the rare heat check layup where he got his shit stuffed. Uh, but it was what I expected from the worst and the fact that they're a championship team, uh, you know, that knows that like, Hey, three one doesn't mean the

series is over. They still got a long hill to climb here, but that was, that was at least a good answer from the defending champs. Yeah. When Steph Curry is, is making shots and just being unbelievable stuff, then they're just tough to be in general. Like they don't even need, as long as Clay has a serviceable game, if Steph's playing like in the fourth quarter, yeah, and it's close, um, then they're, they're just always going to be extremely tough to be in that situation. I'm, I'm happy that we get to see more of the series. Like it's been the opposite of the six or Celtic series in a lot of ways where I'm, I'm excited to watch every single game because every single game has delivered.

Yeah. And, and, uh, the Clay Thompson, like he's been bad. He's been very bad. They need him to do something special in game six. They need like game six thunder Clay Thompson when he hit 11 threes because he's been very, very bad. And you're basically making like everyone else on the floor have to do that much more. I mean, Draymond Green scored 20 points. You can't expect him to score 20 points in game six. Andrew Wiggins had 25. So, uh, they need, they need either a combo, they need either Clay or Jordan pool to just like have one of those stretches where they go nuclear and hit like four out of five threes in a quarter or something like that. I think to win this game as a Nuggets fan, I do not want to play the Lakers. I would rather play the, I would

rather play the Warriors. I think that their game matches up better against them. The Lakers scare me a little bit on defense. And I mean, Anthony Davis, uh, I, we said he was the healthiest that he's ever been maybe in his life. And then he got wheel chaired off the court. We probably should have seen one game like that coming, but I think he's going to be playing next game, right? They said, they said probable and he said that he feels great. Might have been a concussion, but I think he's back now. I think he's back to being healthy against super healthy. Yeah. He went off in a wheelchair, which was one of those, uh, I like got when the Warriors finally put the Lakers away because it was actually kind of weird that they weren't able, it was like hovering

from nine to 13 points for that last six or seven minutes stretch before they got to total garbage time. And you're like, all right, Warriors need to just put them away. And they weren't able to fully like put them away where everyone sat. So I, when they finally did that, I got into bed and I was like watching the game on my phone and then I refreshed Twitter and it's like, Anthony Davis taken in a wheelchair, uh, to the locker room for a head injury. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Like a, am I getting like, is this, is this a joke, a prank? Because it's kind of a joke we'll always make. Like Anthony Davis gets injured 17 times a game. He actually was taken in a wheelchair. He got hit in the temple, uh, but he seems like he's going to be okay.

It might have been a Paul Pierce situation when maybe, maybe there was some doodoo butt going on. Yeah. I don't know. But I have a question for you guys. Does, does Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors, do they officially erase the three one meme if they come back from three one to beat LeBron? Yes. No, I think so. No. No. Yeah. Cause Warriors fans will always have that. No, but it can always report. No, only if they win the wrong, only if they win against, but it's against LeBron. It wasn't the title. It wasn't the title. It's got to be in the title. Like if they win the title, if they, if they overcome and beat the Lakers three down three one, and then they go on to win the title, then it's completely erased. You're wrong. It will be erased

for like the next three days before the next series starts, and then it'll be back on until they win the title. It'll be temporarily erased for a little bit. And, and Golden State Warriors fans will definitely act like it's erased. Yeah. But then if they got blown out by the suns or by the nuggets in the next round, then at that point, okay, yeah, we can still say that it means that Warriors blue three one lead. Yep. Exactly. Got it. Exactly. Um, okay. Uh, Nick's heat. Turns out hashtag your boy greenie was maybe right. PFT. Uh, I think well, I think they, I think the, the temperature in game four, uh, in Miami was like 90 degrees. The temperature in game five in New York was like 65 degrees. Quentin Grimes and Jalen Brunson played 48 minutes.

They had, they had the ability to go because they didn't have the heat bothering them. Uh, and that was an all time Jalen Brunson. Like this is why he's become so quickly beloved by Nick's fans. 48 minutes, 38 points, nine, nine, uh, rebound seven assists, like balls on the line. This is my city. This is my team. There's nothing better when that happens when a guy does something like that. And it just makes Mavericks fans even more sick watching that, but credit to, to the Knicks for not like they could roll over and die there. And they didn't. And Jalen Brunson was the reason they didn't because he played his balls off for 48 minutes. I'd like Jake to check what the weather is going to be like in Miami for the next game.

And that will influence my, my prediction. If it's going to be above 84 degrees outside, then I have the heat winning. Uh, seven PM. I'm looking at 87 degrees. So the next push is the seven. Oh, it's too hot. All right. PM showers, scattered, scattered thunderstorms. Also still too high. No. High of 84, high of 84. Shout out Julius Randall for, uh, for like remind remembering that he's actually good at basketball. Like he, he, I think maybe because he made all NBA, I think second team, um, he just woke up and was like, wait, I am, I am a good basketball player. I can do this. And he came out and wasn't just a complete liability. There's so many times when you watch him and you're like, this guy's

just not good at bat. How is he, I guess he doesn't look like a good basketball player. He is a good basketball player, but a lot of times even when he's playing well, you're like, well, this guy, this guy doesn't really do anything particularly well. Right. But it was, it, I really do think, um, he just needed the affirmation just to remind himself like, Oh yeah, you can play basketball at a pretty high level. You, you are a good player. Go out and be a good player. And he was, and uh, Mitchell Robinson making those free throws. I always root for the big guy who has just the worst free throw, uh, look like his, his, his motion is terrible. He misses them all the time. And they did the hacker hack of Mitchell Robinson

towards the end where it was Jimmy Butler wasn't even like trying to find, I don't know if you saw this clip, but Jimmy Butler was just smacking him in the butt over and over. He was just smacking him in the butt over and over until the ref would call foul. Um, so, but yeah, he made his free throws. I always like, there's something nice about a big guy. I'm sure he'll miss another big one. Like when it, when it matters again, but for one night, he made his free throws. You can always tell how bad somebody is at free throws by how hard they celebrate after making free throws. Yeah. Right. So like a big dude like that, he acts like he just hit the game winning shot if he goes two for two at the line and the crowd gets really into it.

That's always a good moment too. Yes. Uh, hey, any other thoughts on any of the series? No. Okay. Just focused. Yeah. It's all about Sunday. Okay. All right. All right. Um, I'm gonna make I thought the, the people were freaking out about the eight seconds in the back court at the end of that he came. That was, that was nonsense. I was freaking out. That was a, that was a, yeah. Screen grab fest though. Yeah. But people were saying it has to go to 15, which I didn't see anything official. So I could be wrong. But yeah, it's, it's one of those like right on the border where it's not. Yeah. I got a lot of don't know ball. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Jake, what, what does a Jake freak out look like? What the heck? Oh, wow. Yikes. No,

I was worse. Sorry for everyone who had to listen to that. Uh, yeah. I apologize. Uh, Max too much. So Scott Foster wasn't on any of the games tonight, which means he'll be calling one of the game sixes tomorrow. So they're thinking it's going to be pushed to the extenders. Yeah. Max, do you have the, do you have the sheet? You want to tell us which games you're going to go to game seven? I don't know. Yeah. That stat could also just be a Scott Foster specific stat because Scott Foster has worked so many games under Adam Silver in game sixes because he is the NBA's hatchet man that he forces those games individually into game seven. Yes. I feel like he's more likely to do the Warriors Lakers, right? Well, it depends on where he's been. I don't know if they'll fly

him across. Yeah. But like the league would benefit more if that's of course, definitely. They want, they want that very badly. We need to track Scott Foster's jet. You need to figure out where it's going. Yeah. Tail number. I'm going to make the executive decision. We were going to wait until after the Sun's Nuggets game. I think the Nuggets are going to kill him. They're up 20 right now. I think we just talked about it right now. 21. They're up 21. I think we did. Nuggets in six. We bury the Suns right now. It's over. Let's go. Sun, you're done. You're red dwarfs. Your time's up. Chris Paul sucks. Chris Paul blew the series for the Suns by getting injured in game one. Good things for the Nuggets. I like it as long as the Nuggets don't have to play against the

Lakers next round. I love where the Nugs are at. We dominated tonight. We won by 17. The Nuggets won by 17 points tonight. Another and shut the fuck up. Another triple double. Another triple double for Yokech on the night. All the stars stepped up. Porter's looking good. Murray's looking good. Gordon's looking good. Jeff Green put in a couple baskets in the fourth quarter. It's a complete team. Yeah. I mean, for the craziness that are these NBA playoffs and everything that's gone on, the Nuggets have looked like the best team. They, you know, first round they look like the best team. This round they look like the best team. They are, it feels like they're peaking at the right time. And they just kind of get forgotten in the mix, but they are playing very, very good basketball

and what they're doing. Again, there's eight minutes left in the second quarter. So if you're listening to this and the Suns won, that will just be the dumbest segment we ever did on Pardon My Take, but we believe in the Nuggets and they know that they're not going to go to a game seven. They're going to come out and take care of business and they're up 21. They're going to win by 31. Nugs and six. And I think it's time that we had a conversation about Kevin Durant's legacy big cat. It's been too long since we've discussed that. I think it's been at least 11 months since we've had that conversation. Kevin Durant's legacy has taken a hit the last few years, maybe in a reputable hit because you would think if he's the best player in the NBA,

like some people have said that he is, you think he'd be able to get it done with a team with Devin Booker and some nice rural players on the side. And Kevin Durant, unless you come on the podcast to discuss this, your legacy right now, I'd say it's almost completely destroyed. Yeah, I'd agree. What do you say, Billy? Is Kevin Durant still a baby back bitch? I think we've tired that because he stopped tweeting from a burner, which we respected that when he just started going, just going after people with his main account. But he, I'll say this, I think the Sun's next year might be, you know, a very good team, but it felt, whenever you trade for a guy in the middle of the season, Chris Paul, you got to figure out what you're

going to do with the point guard because he clearly can't, like we know Chris Paul is old now. Like it is what it is. He's going to get injured in the playoffs. And you have Kevin Durant and Devin Booker for, I think like three or four years locked up. They should, like it should just be building around just those two guys. Forget Deandre Aten, forget Chris Paul, build around those two guys, get as many good role players around them, and the Suns will still have a title window. Yeah, maybe. Kevin Durant needs to do something. He needs, I'm just putting on my skip bail issues. Kevin Durant needs to prove to me that he's as good as we've been told that Kevin Durant is by ourselves. By ourselves. Okay, so congrats to the Nugs. This would really suck if we jinxed this.

Not going to happen. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. This is a must win for the Nuggets. Yeah, it is. Well, you know, we'll update it after our NFL schedule draft. So we'll update it probably be halftime when we finish this and then we can fully assess. Other, let's see, other things that we can talk about. Oh, before we talk hockey playoffs, I just want to say a special shout out to Bo Jackson. He's had hiccups for an entire year. I'd kill myself if I had hiccups for more than 15 minutes. So I don't know how he is surviving. Listen, I've got 100% foolproof cure for the hiccups. Bo, if you want them, I'll give them to you. I will cure your hiccups within 10 minutes. That's a guarantee. I know how to cure the hiccups. It's a method,

and it works every time. Yeah, so reach out to me, maybe, maybe give me like a handcrafted bow and arrow that you made, or just let me hang out with you for a day. Because children with Bo Jackson would be the absolute best. I will cure Bo Jackson's hiccups. His hiccups are so bad that he sniffed a porcupine's butt to try to cure him. Somebody told him, if you just take a big whiff of a porcupine's asshole, your hiccups will go away and he believed them and tried it. It didn't work. Bo, I smelled probably twice as good as a porcupine's asshole. Just hang out with me and let me fix them for you. It also just is a testament to how big of a badass Bo Jackson is, because now his broken hip leg injury that took away his NFL

career is the second worst injury he's ever had. Because I would absolutely say, if you said, hey, you can break your hip or you can have hiccups for a year, I'd take the broken hip all day every day. Because at least you know, this is how I can rehab. And I know that there's an end in sight. The hiccups, there's no end in sight. And then the other thing is, this just means Bo Jackson is incapable of being scared. No one has scared him in an entire year to get rid of these hiccups. He can't be scared. I was about to bring up that point, because that's the cure people tell you about. They just have somebody jump out behind you, but he's unscarable because he's such a tough guy. But straight up, I don't know,

what's the longest you guys have had hiccups for? Maybe like drunk, maybe a half hour. Yeah, I had hiccups for like close to an hour or two hours the other weekend. And my buddy choked me out and it made it go away. Oh, that's why your buddy choked you out? Well, we're wrestling. Oh, okay, nice. They were doing, they're doing jiu-jitsu. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You guys ever get scared? What do you mean? That's how you get rid of the hiccups. That's what we were just saying. Wow, Jake. With Bo Jackson. Yeah, I was looking and I felt schedule stuff. That's okay. That's a me move. Yeah, that was a Billy move. Yeah. That was Billy Marsh right there. Yup, my bad. Seriously, how much do you think Bo would pay to get rid of his hiccups right now?

Endless amount of money. I'm not exaggerating when I say that if I had hiccups for, I think the longest probably 30 minutes drunk, but like anything over a day or two and it's just shoot me like a horse. Yeah, which I probably shouldn't say that, you know, it's probably too soon after what happened like talking to everybody, but it's true. Like get the curtain, let me lay down, shoot me dead. I don't want to have the hiccups anymore in my life. We should get Bo on the podcast. Come on the podcast and we will cure your hiccups live on part of my take. I guarantee it. Yeah, we'll scare the fuck out of you. Okay. Hockey. Leaves are still alive. H words advanced to the conference finals. What else? Oh, and the Edmonton night series is awesome.

That's, that's, oh, and Spencer halls went to a cracking game. We made him go to a cracking game. He went to a cracking game. They got absolutely shit pumped. He was texted early. He was texted to the third being like, when can I leave? Because they were down like four goals. So I'll say this and hockey fans might not love this. This round of the playoffs haven't been that great. First round was great. This round of the playoffs have not been that great. I watched some of the Leafs game the other night. I did not watch the cracking game. I have not watched the H words play recently. So I could try to talk about it, but all I'm going to say is just that watch out because biz might be right. This might be right about the

Leafs. Don't let them get hot. Oh yeah. I'm pretty much just laser focused on the Oilers and how much fun they are to watch. And they had a nice answer to the, to the, like they got their ass kicked in game three. But yeah, I, I don't know. Maybe get to the next round because these memes, is that fair to say you're a big hockey fan? This round has not been the best. It has not been the best. Yeah. And it's just a lot of blowout. It's okay to admit it because you know, there's a, we get to this time of year and there's a lot of like this sport's better than this sport. Let's just be, let's have an honest conversation. The NBA playoffs this round have been a lot better than the hockey playoffs this round. I saw a stat and I'm going to butcher it,

but it was something like this year. There's been a record number of games that have reached the score of four to one at some point during the game, which makes sense. Like I feel like every time I look up, it's four to one somebody. Yeah. Okay. Let's do some NFL schedule talk before we do that. Top golf. It's golf. It's not golf. It's top golf. We got a bunch of stuff that makes top golf, top golf clubs, balls, teas, turf, even a ball picker, upper cart thing. They also have a whole bunch of stuff on their menu and loud music, giant targets, giant TVs, and handcrafted food and beverage menu. They even have a whole day each week dedicated to more play for less pay. They do this thing on Tuesday where all gameplay is half price given, giving players more reason to

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not golf. It's topgolf. Okay, NFL schedule. It has been released. It was leaked all day. There was like little crumbs that were given to us. We started the day with the shocking news and I'll say it. Shocking news. The Lions and the Chiefs are kicking off the season. Credit to the Lions. They have ridden the hype wave to the first game of the season. That will be very fun to watch the line. Like when we always talk about wanting something new, maybe in the college football playoffs, the Lions on the opening kickoff night will be cool to see. Like the jerseys will be different. Jared Goff, all of it. I want to see it. It will be fun. Just watching the Lions play at night is going to be a shock. It's my body. My body hasn't. I can't remember the last time

we've experienced it. I guess they've had a couple sprinkled here and there, but in a big game where everyone's eyes are on them, I'm excited about the Lions this year. It does feel like they've reached that point where it's like maybe we should pump the brakes on them just because being put in the opening game of the entire season feels like a big step up for them. Maybe we put them on like the first Monday night game. Maybe we ease our way into there. Now they're a really good roster. They're a good team. They've got one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, our personal friend Jared Goff. And Dan Campbell is a fucking insane man who's a lot of fun to watch. So I understand why the league would do that plus with the hard knocks that they built in last year. I get why they would

think that they would be a bigger draw, but I still don't think that the Lions are at the point where they should be opening up the NFL season. Dumb debate time. I think the Lions losing in a close game opening night is better than winning. It would be very Lions to have like the best loss of the season. But okay, but it'd be even more Lions to win the opening night against the Chiefs and then like, you know, lose the next four games and have all the like have an entire week where it's like they just beat the Chiefs opening night, Super Bowl champs. I think if your Lions fan deep down, a close loss wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. And then you come back and then you reel off five wins. You go five and one to start. I agree with you. Yeah, because it's a stupid

obviously you want to win the games rather than lose it. But this is a dumb show. We have dumb brains. A close loss might be the perfect thing for the Lions because if they won, it means that they pulled out all the tricks and they have no more tricks. Right. And it's just like they feel like, oh, shit, all the hype. That's really real. And then that's when you start to get, you know, exposed. They're going to do every trick. Andy Reed's also going to have a lot of tricks. There's going to be, I'm going to say four over under four and a half gadget plays run in this game. And I'll take the over on it. Yeah, I just just Lions you want like you basically what you want is to lose the like buzzer on a field goal and have it be Patrick Mahomes. And you can be like,

you know what, we're a really good team. It's just Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL. I think you're confusing like what would be a great result in general, as opposed to like what would be the Lions idea of a great result. No, I know. Lions idea like over the last couple years, they've led the league in moral victories. They had like a New England Patriots undefeated seasons worth of moral victories in the last two years. No, I know that obviously they want to win the game. I'm just saying that Hank, you okay? Yeah. Remember that season Hank? Yeah, no, that's fine. Unnecessary. It happened. It happened. Sports podcast. We talk about sports. Again, this is a very dumb thought because I know you want to win the games, but I'm just saying

it wouldn't be the work because if they do beat the Chiefs week one Thursday night in front of the whole country, the Lions hype will be out of this world. It will be, yeah, it will be, you know, uncontrollable at that point. So just a stupid thought for food for thought, something to remind yourself if you, if Lions fans, you do lose that game. So when I was watching the schedule release get trickled out like Chinese water torture all day today where it's like, okay, well, one game will be released every hour on the hour pretty much. I can't help but think that at some point, Roger Goodell is going to do to the schedule release what he's done with the draft and just market the shit out of it and like take it on the road

each year and turn it into like an hour long, two hour long prime time event where he just announces like one week's worth at a time. He like a bracket release, essentially. Like he sees what the NCAA does and the ratings they get on that. I feel like in the next 10 years, schedule release date is going to be the, he's going to have kids, troops come out on stage, the whole nine yards, we're going to have people breaking it down week by week by week when he announces each week. It's going to be like a massive fucking corporate media sensation. It's going to be insane. Yeah, that's my prediction for the future of the NFL. I'm looking at the line schedule right now. So they're going to lose the chiefs and then they're

going to start the season five and one. So that's it. That's the perfect start for the lines right there. Well, every fan out there went through the schedule when it came out. Of course, you're not you're not a real fan. If you have your team doing any worse than 10 and seven, every team is going to be 10 and seven or better. Yeah. Okay, do we want to do a quick draft through our favorite games? Okay. What should we do? Should we do three rounds? Should we do a three round draft? Because we have all of us. Max, are you going to participate in this draft? Sure. I haven't looked at a single thing in the NFL. Okay. That's actually makes it better. Hank, have you looked at a single thing? No, I just know opening night is birdie night against the Eagles. Okay. So PFC, why don't

you start and we'll go around the room. That's true. I know I'm sick of looking at your face while watching sports. Max also went on a rant. I heard him at halftime. He's like, I'll fucking care about the schedule. We know who we're playing. I don't care when they play. Just fucking who cares? I do think that like who cares? You know, you know who you're playing months ago. Why does it matter when you're playing them? It's fun to just fantasize. I know it's fun. It's fun. It's fun to fantasize. Yeah. And Max, when you're a loser, this matters a lot. I'm a loser. Yeah, that's also true. Yeah, that is. But you also expect to win. Yeah. Dude, I'm itching to pick this first game. Okay. All right. Go ahead, PFT. Start.

Okay. So I get the first little pick. You get the first picking. I don't know if you heard Billy, but he just kind of whispered, I'm itching to pick this first game. I actually have one. I'm really excited. Okay. Yeah. I mean, let's go me and then you want to go. We'll go you, you, Hank, and then me, and then we'll go around the room. Okay. All right. So Billy will be like one of the last ones. He'll be fourth. Okay. So we'll definitely somebody will definitely pick his game then for the first overall pick in the 2023 schedule NFL draft. I'm going to go with the Buffalo Bills at the New York Jets September 11. What the fuck? Was that Billy's? Dude, that's the best game. I didn't know. I had no idea that that was going to be Billy's.

Fucking best game. How could you do that, bro? I didn't know. I'd be like, if I knew it was yours, I wouldn't have done it. I'm sorry. Fuck you. Aaron Rodgers. I don't even care about that game. September 11th in New York, Aaron Rodgers renowned 9 11 truther dude going to be waking up America who probably have a fun message written on his on like a headband or some weird touchdown celebration, waking people up to the truth. And then of course, Josh Allen pressing all the buttons going up against a good Jets defense. That's going to be a great game. I mean, I really wish that we were staying in New York for that one because

I would love to go to that game. Yeah. Great pick. Great pick. Thanks. Thanks. That was mine. It was. What's your first pick? Tom Brady night. I will go with the Jets versus the Patriots week 18 probably taking Rodgers out of the playoffs. And you know, what's going to be a long and frustrating season? Disappointment for Jets fans. Okay. That dude, we're going to know by then because it's either because the I don't think the Patriots are going to be in playoff contention, but they might be able just like to tank our season by beating us. But also like, like if we can't go, you can't go. Oh, right. That's why it's my number one. No, but that's you just you don't want to if they can't go, you can't go. Right. Right. But I don't think they're

going to have any playoff chances. Right. You see what's already happening. You just like envision a world where you're not going. I know, but like we could be borderline. It really just depends on that first game. That's why I'm way more excited about the first. No, no, no, no, no. That's PFT's game. So you can't talk about that game. All right. Well, you know, we'll do, we'll just do a snake draft. We'll do two picks each because this is the most boring thing ever. That's we're going to put. It's because they're picking games. I don't care about. Yeah. Okay. I'll go. My first pick. I will go. Let's see. Where to go. Oh, here we go. Bill's at Bengals tomorrow. Hamlin week nine Sunday night football, the game that we debated for

a week and a half who was going to win that game. That will be a very highly anticipated game week nine. Both teams should be very good. What? He's got an intrusive thought. What was your intrusive thought? You know how Hank and Max would both lose Sunday? Yeah. If they couldn't finish the game and couldn't play it. Oh, so you're wishing for someone to die. It was an intrusive thought. It was. That's I said it was an intrusive thought. It doesn't count. He said it was an intrusive thought. Yeah. That's what Billy is. It was a brain worm. I was like, why is the intrusive thought of this podcast? He really is. All right. So that's my pick. Go ahead, Billy. I'm going Black Friday, Jets Dolphins. Okay. Well, it's going to be good. I actually, I guess it's be

force fed football. You're going to watch. It's good that football is on TV, but I don't know if that game, I wouldn't take that. No, that's going to be a crucial game. It's also that value. I'm very much into the NFL just taking over every holiday. Black Friday is college football. That's that's stupid. That's Nebraska, Iowa. Like that's, I don't know what they didn't have to do that day. We had football on TV that day. We didn't need that day. I'm down for, you know, the Christmas Eve, the New Year's Eve, the Christmas day, all these other things, but we had football on that day already. That was already a designated football day. They should have done it like on the Tuesday after Thanksgiving. Yeah, but you're going to love it

when it's on. No, of course, but I am going to watch college football too. Okay, Jake, your first pick. So this is wild. What? That we're doing. You know, it's really dumb. It's terrible. But we're only doing two rounds. Yeah, you should do one round. We should do, everyone gets one game. Okay. So this year, New Year's Eve is on a Sunday. We get an entire slate on New Year's Eve. This is making it worse, Jake. I'm just setting the stage. How excited you are about this draft. Yes, because I'm taking Bengals at Chiefs 425, New Year's Eve. You watch the game, then you do your New Year's Eve plans. Okay. Also, I'm sorry for earlier. I'm What? He said the heck. Oh, no, no, no. No, when he, when I was looking at my favorite games,

I really feel awful. You feel awful. Yeah. No time. Okay. All right. Uh, Max. Yeah. I still don't know what Jake's talking about. I feel high right now. I'm getting weird thoughts. I feel great. Good vibes right now. This is good vibes are in the air. This is what makes true AWLs listening to this and being like, wait, what are they doing? By the way, the nuggets are now up 32. So great call by us. Great call. I would say Super Bowl rematch, Monday night football, Chiefs Eagles, November 20th, but I'm sick of everyone on the Niners saying that they would have beat us if they had a quarterback. So it's at home December 3rd, 425 against the Niners. Okay. All right. And that concludes our draft. Wait, wait. I got one more.

Wait. You could just say a game you're looking forward to, but that concludes our draft. Week five, Chicago at Washington. Yeah. There's a rematch. We might have to go to that. Rematch. Also, there's a game exclusive game this year. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What is that? It's, uh, I think Chargers, Bills, uh, I think December. This is the, yeah. Pass are, pass are going to Germany. That's the other one of note for the pads. Oh, yeah. The Tyree kill revenge game is in Germany as well. Oh, okay. It's a pass Colts in Germany. Yeah. I feel like Belichick will have them on some type of history tour. Oh, yeah. Yeah. By the way, shout out to Titan social media. That was by far the best video. Uh, they interviewed

drunk people on Broadway and Nashville and had them like guess the logos of the teams. And it was just perfectly, perfectly done. Cause it's, you know, it's hard to one up every year. All these schedule releases because it's been a trendy thing for the team social media accounts, but the Titans nailed it. Yeah. The people on Broadway, one person gets the Chargers logo as being lightning McQueen. Yeah. As being that team, there were two bachelorette parties that guessed the, uh, the Indianapolis Colts logo as being the Dallas Cowboys. That was awesome. And they, they like confidently were like Cowboys nailed it. It's the Cowboys. Yeah. And then the Tex, the Texan Texans was another good one in the Atlanta, Atlanta, Florida dolphins. Yeah.

Shout out to the Jaguar social media team too. They did the head script writer for the, for the Jacksonville Jaguars narrated theirs. Oh, I thought that was good. Okay. This has been the dumbest, uh, 15 minutes. Confidently can say the dumbest 15 minutes in this show, at least in the last year. Uh, we have the rest of the show. We have Kenny Smith. We have firefest and we were correct. The Denver nuggets are up 30 on the sons going into halftime. So great show. And let's kick it to ourselves with Kenny Smith. This interview with Kenny Smith is brought to you by Bert Kreischer and his new movie, the machine on Sony pictures. You know, Bert, he's been on part of my take many times. He was with us at the Superbowl. We did his show. You're familiar

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watching on YouTube. A memoir, awesome pictures on the back, young Kenny the jet. All right, so thank you for coming. First of all, your book. Let's start with your book and then we'll talk a little NBA. Okay, what's going on, you know, in the playoffs. So your book has a lot of stories about all the people who have impacted you in your life. And I guess it is probably a question you're going to get a lot, but I have to know what the best piece of advice that Charles Barkley gave you because he seems like he seems actually like he would give good advice if you asked him for it. No, not necessarily. Okay, all right, I was wrong. Yeah, I was trying to give Charles a compliment. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think the one thing that, you know, I read a lot of self-help

books, I do, you know, oh, such and such for dummies and whatever it might be. And it always would seem like it was from one point, one person's point of view. And this is 15 people that I observed that influenced me. So it's 15 point of view is self-help. So I feel hopefully when you read it, people, you know, feel better about themselves and understand, oh, Bill Russell did that. Oh, Magic Johnson operate. Oh, Shaq, you know, Michael Jordan works that way. Now that's why it worked for me. So I think that's it. But the best advice I'd say from Chuck, the part that is influential is he gave me a voice where before him, people would just ask me basketball questions. They never talk about politics, never talk about culture. Maybe like, next win, you think the next gonna

win? You keep it moving. Yeah, you know, but now I go places and his voice, you know, since I am he's like in terms of not in terms of the person, but the voice like he started like Muhammad Ali would not be just asked boxing questions, right? More than an athlete. Yeah. And so he is that that's the reason why LeBron and those guys today, he's the bridge for that. Yeah, Ron and Chris Paul and Camelo was, you know, to do. Yeah, sometimes he says things that are sneaky profound. And other times, I saw this the other day, where he was on the steam room. And he was talking about losing his soap in a hotel. Oh, you see, what is that about it? What was he saying with that clip where he was like, I have to bring my own soap on the road,

because one time he has a big butt. How about that? So now use your imagination with the little hotel. So yeah, I mean, he could give you that. Or he could give you something political. But the one thing that, you know, even when I was writing it, I realized where how I view people came from my parents in this way. My mom, I can hear it even now. Can he listen? Be a listener. Listen. Because, you know, and this is the day and age, especially with even with all the podcasts and things that we do, I want to be heard. I want to listen to what I'm saying. But listening gives you empathy, even when you might not have sympathy. And so being empathetic of, oh, that's why he acts that way. Allow me to have these people in my life, which at when I was writing it, I wrote,

I was about maybe the fourth chapter, I was sending it into the editor. He goes, you realize, like everybody you're sending in has a book written about their life. I was like, man, I have access to that. And didn't think about how I have the access to do that and talk to these people. Which I think if I knew all this at 20, geez, oh my God. I'd own this station, man. We'd be all in this station. I'd own five teams. As far as the different people that you talked to for this book, what's one example of one person that said something really profound that you had never thought about before, you got the chance to read what they had to say? It's more echoes. You hear echoes in the back and you don't realize it in the back of your head. When the whole George Floyd

thing was going on, I walked off the set. And I was like, I think I shouldn't be here today. And I was like, so that's how the book actually came about. A literary agent called me when she was like, you have a book. I'm like, what do you mean? She's like, why'd you walk off? I was like, well, it's really like the people who made me. And I was like, oh, through sport, through culture, through politics, whatever. So that also went back to Bill Russell and Dean Smith. Bill Russell was my first coach. He drafted me in NBA. Imagine that. We'll get to that. And then Dean Smith, it was like my first week in school. He brought me in and he's like, brought me to the office. And I'm throwing, he's like, how many jump ropes you're going to do? I'm thinking,

and we lift weights and whatever. And he asked me, he said, Ken, he has an African American student. What are you going to do here for the students here? I was like, whoa, like, that was the first time someone who wasn't African American asked me, what am I going to do for black people? Like, what? Like, that just blew my mind. It's a big question for an 18 year old. And so, hey, and that was during the time of apartheid, Mandela, we had shanties on campus. And so like, that might have been echoing my head when I walked off. Bill Russell, you know, it's got funny stories because, you know, threw us out of practice one day because he fell asleep. But that's another story. But he, one day where he's sitting, he has all these notes on the plane

because his rule was he, I had to sit next to him every plane ride, every and every bus ride. And I would drive home with him because we lived a mile away. So I spent a lot of time with him then. So now he's looking at these notes and it's got like Yugoslavia, Spain players. And so I go, Coach, you telling me there's not a guy in Alabama that you could just drive and go see just as good. And he says, Kenny, as an African American, you can never not want inclusion. Like, so he's taking a joking moment. So all those echoes are in your body and in your ear. Yeah. That you don't know, like why you do things. And I'm like, now I started to understand where I'm getting these information and compelled to do things, you know, in sport and business and

life. Yeah. I think a lot of people lack empathy until they go through a moment that makes them realize, oh yeah, this is what other people experience. And you know what it is too? Would it happen with Shaq? Yeah. Because Shaq has a military background. Like if you know his dad, his big military, we know that story. And he's a police officer. Shaq, he is a real badge. He has the sirens and lights and everything. So he has a reverence to military and police office because he was going in the wrong direction and they straighten them up, get up at six, make your bed, but whatever it might be. I grew up in Queens, New York. Like we don't look at it. We respect law enforcement, but we don't look at it the same way. Different experience, yeah.

So when he makes a comment doing a cultural, social, economic moment, I have to be empathetic that they made him the billionaire that he is. Yeah. Right. You know, that lifestyle. So he has a reverence. And if I don't, even though I might not agree or Charles from Alabama might, I might not agree. If I don't understand why, then what are we doing? And that's what I think, what gets lost a lot even in sport and in life. It sounds like in writing this book, it was probably pretty therapeutic to look back and be like, look at all these people that I've been able to be friends with, to mentor, to be mentee. Like was that, did you have that moment? You're like, wow. Yeah. I thought it was normal. Right. Like you guys could just call Shaq or you

guys could call Magic Johnson. I didn't think that that was special. Like until I realized like, no, he's the highest of the high in his profession financially, culturally. And then it's like, what? Like there's 15 and I got 15 more that just didn't make the book. Like I had to, I realized that I've been blessed with the ability to see around corners too. Like I met guys and ladies early in their careers and I go, no, they're going to make it. Now I might have mentored and some of them I haven't, no, nothing. But I go, no, that's it. He's the one. Like I was on a plane with Michael B Jordan. And I wrote about this. I'm going to, and it's like five or six guys like this. I was on a plane with him. He had not acted yet. And he's just happened to be

sitting next to me and I'm talking to him. I gave him my number, calls me up, like six months later. He's like, Hey, can he remember me, Michael B? I'm like, yeah, Michael, Michael Jordan. Yeah, right. So yeah, I remember you, bro. How are you? He's like, I'm going, I'm moving to LA. And I'm going to go through this, but it's acting thing. He's like, I might need a meal or two. So if I get stuck out here, I'm going to come. And I said to him, bro, you'll never need a meal for me. You're it. That's really cool. Because you see it. It's a quality that like, like when I watch a guy on TV and play, I'm like, he's going to be like, he's going to be the MVP of the league. Yeah. Like, like, no, he's just, I remember I said that about Durant. It's like,

no, you just, it's something about it that you see that they have. Yeah. You probably also said that about Lonnie Walker, right? Like LeBron. He's like, I knew, I knew the second that's cap. It's funny that you guys caught up picked up on that because the first thing we like, so LeBron has to take credit. Yeah. That he knew. Be ready. I was like, is he, is he back there telling, you know, Pippin son, be ready, bro. Yeah. You never know. I said, he said that to Tristan Thompson yet. Yeah. It's what makes it so funny about LeBron because he's so he's without a doubt one of the top two basketball players of all time, but he also has these goofy moments where he says something and we can all like laugh at him in the same moment. Yeah. I read that book. Yeah.

Oh, you should get LeBron to read the first page of your book. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's on the first page? What was also it's not without a doubt because Kenny didn't have LeBron in his top 10 a few years ago. At that time, I did not. Yeah. It was close. Has he made it there yet? He's in the top. Has Steph. I mean, Steph, is he there? It's hard because every time you add someone, you got to take someone out. Well, I just say, you know, again, we went through the 10 and I'm going off the top of my head because I'm probably going to leave someone out when you go off the top of your head and now have a listen in front of you. But these guys will never, I don't think Michael could ever be removed. I don't think Kareem could ever be removed. I don't

think magic and I don't think bird could ever be moved because it's kind of like, if I watch someone play the piano and they're the first pianist, you gave me the blueprint on how to play the piano. But if it's never been played before and you figure out how to make music, like there's something special about that more than anything else. So those guys kind of put it. Will Chamberlain is on that. So now we got five that can't be removed. So there's only five that can jump into your top 10. So at that time, I still had Oscar Robertson, Mr. Triple Double. And so I'm like, no, Shaq. Right around there, Tim Duncan. Where are we? No, it's hard. It gets very difficult. Where are we? And so for Steph, LeBron is obviously,

the generational part about him is the longevity of it. There are people who had just as good as years as him, but no one's had just as good a careers. It's not the ordinary. It's the extra, which makes you extraordinary. It makes you extraordinary. You're doing ordinary things all the time that you can consistently do them. Where I can't even, like I can't run and jump the way I used to. So it's not, you can't consistently do it. But Steph, I just don't think that, like I always say Steph is going to be culturally in the top 10 here because of the way the game is played. You don't have to defend to affect the game the same way. So those guys, also like Michael, Kareem, they affected the game defensively that changes the way you play.

So that's why I move Michael here. Right. So speaking of him, I assume he's in your book. Yes. The Jordan chapter. Yeah. What, what, can you give us an anecdote or a lesson that he gave you that you didn't even know at the time? He looked back and you're like, Oh yeah, that, how he was doing it. That's, I started mimicking something after him or one of the, I think I open up with saying when you read it is going to be, I've always been jealous of Scottie Pippin. That's how I open up because he was the fifth pick. I was the sixth and then he got traded to Chicago. Right. And I was like, that could be me because I, I'm playing with Michael and being a New Yorker. Like I'm, we talk, we have a devato about us that we like someone who pushes us in

our face. I, those guys are always propelled me. So like being a good player is also knowing what you don't have. And like sometimes I need that, like that, that guy to be in your face and like get you motivated. And so I used to watch it as when he was a boy and I used to be like, Scottie doesn't realize he's going to be great. Cause I don't think Scottie even made the all rookie team, first team is rookie team with us. So like imagine that now he's the top 50 player of all time. Right. Because a guy pushes you that's next to you is also part of your journey. And I knew what that was by being that. I was like, ah, man, let me get that. Like, let me get that. Like passion. Like as a New Yorker, we have that all the ways around us. Like the melting pot of people,

like I'm around Italian people who just love their culture, morale, you know, you know, devout Jewish people who like passionate about their religion, Muslims, like everyone that we see. So when you, someone's like, Mike is that he's a New Yorker. Don't know it. Like he's just like, he's in your face about it. How he is. And I was like, I'm jealous. So I, I took away from Michael the, the, the ability to push yourself. Like, how do you push yourself at times? And I still didn't have enough of it because I would have had him to help me. So I'm always jealous of Scottie Pippin, man. I need you, Scottie. It is, it is, it is one of those things whether it be basketball or work or life. If the most talented person is also the hardest worker, it's hard not to fall

in line. It's hard not to be like, well, that guy could, he could get by with just doing it, but he's also putting in more hours than everyone. But see the fact is, I don't even know if he was putting in more hours, but he had a, there's a bravado while you're putting the hours in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like it's almost kind of like doing something that you really don't want to do sometime in the moment, but still doing it like you love it. Right. Yeah. And that is hard to do some days. We're going to get back to Kenny Smith in a second, but he's brought to you by part of my cheesesteak. Are you tired of sad, limp, flavorless cheesesteaks? Do you crave something that'll

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first of all, there's no asterisk. He was when he was back and he had 55 points at the guard and y'all were like, he's back. Michael's back and he's the greatest of ever. What do you mean by you? By you guys were like, if you were in wherever you were, and when Michael came back, you were screaming that he's back when he's when he hits the garden floor in the middle and he had 55, the double nickel, then he then he lose the Orlando. Well, listen, but we swept them. And the reason well, Nick Anderson couldn't hit a free throw. No, but we swept them. That would have been one. We swept them. Not one one. They didn't win a game. You want them? No, I look in penny didn't win a game against us in the finals. The two guys who made first team all NBA

did not win a game against us. So you would have extra swept. My point is this, and this is where it comes from this confidence. Horace Grant was in Orlando. Yep. He we saw in the documentary there was dissension. So he left. They were too small. Yeah, it wasn't Michael wasn't great when they lost to Orlando. They were too small. They didn't have a grant to contend with Grant or they killed them on the board. Shaq. We had Dream. He was Shaq on steroids then. So they were too small. There was no Dennis Rodman. Right. That's two years later. So they would have been a small team trying to defend Dream and us. Yeah, we were to beat them. Now, if you asked me the same question ago, can you beat that first three P team? Well, the second

three, I don't know. I'll be scratching my head. But those teams that how they were constructed and just add Mike to it, we would have beat them for sure. Swept. I don't know. I swept, but we would beat them. Okay, so I mean, I loved watching him. He played. It was his footwork was insane. Like just everything about him, like the fact that he was so tall and such a big man. He was he looked like he was like ballet out there was. Who was the best player you ever played with? And maybe we'll count not count college. Well, there's an Akeem. There's an Akeem chapter. There's a Michael chapter. I play with both. I played with Kim Elijah and Michael Jordan. Like, I know it's pretty crazy. It's ridiculous. Yeah. So and spent many moments with all of them.

So yeah, I think Michael is going to be the best player. Yeah, not counting college. So just MBA Akeem easily. Yeah, not even close. Like he was Michael in those two year runs. Like he when I say he was Michael, he invoked fear into the opponent when you weren't the position he was guarding. That's fear. So like, does Steph Curry make Anthony Davis fearful? I think yes. I think yes. I don't know. I think yes. I think I would say I would say yes. Because of what he's going to do on the court. I can't do what I do. Yeah, I think the way that he has to play defense on his guy. Anthony Davis feels that he can't play well with Steph Curry. But I think Steph Curry passes the test and it's talking about the all time greats and LeBron's in there. And there's,

you know, some guys who might be getting there right now. But Steph specifically, you have to know where he is at all times. The whole team does team defense because he in the way he pulls everyone away at the ball, maybe not. Okay. But offensive, but defensively, I think that all five guys are fearful of where Steph is and making sure they know where he is at all times. Do you think Patrick Ewing, when he caught the ball on the right block, was like, where the hell's Michael? Well, he traveled a lot. He's like, where's Michael? Yeah. No, he's like, I'm going to travel and they will call. And how many times do you see the block? No, I know. I mean, the, the, that's the difference. Like, and

Keem, you had to know where he was. No, you're right. Because the MJ, the final shot, the play on offense, Andy, is the play before his stripping column. If you don't come to the double team, when the Keem comes in and gets the ball on a block early enough, you're coming out the game. Yeah, then do your job. That's fear. That's what that's the so he had that for two years that I was right, that everybody on the floor was like, where is the dream at? Right? Yeah. On both ends. We talked during March Madness about Sonogo and some of the other guys that were doing Ramadan during the tournament and during games where they weren't drinking, they weren't eating before the games at all. Hakim did that too. Yeah. Like, very, it was, it was big news at the time. And not a

lot of people understood what he was doing. What, what would you see in him on those days where he had to go out and he had to be the best player on the court, but he could not have any water, could not have any food? How did he get, like gear himself up to be able to play at that next level? The first year I saw it, I was like, I didn't know until about five days in that he wasn't eating before the game. I thought maybe it was like, Ramadan ended at, I didn't, I'm not, I wasn't Muslim. I'm not Muslim. So I didn't know the timing. So I'm thinking he's going to eat in that five with playing at 730. Right. It's like, no, he's not eating until after the game. That's crazy. There's like a weekend. And he, and then that week, I think he might have been playing a week in

the NBA. Like, what? Yeah. Like, oh my God, I can't even get through this interview without asking you for some water. Yeah. Like, what are you talking about? So. Do you need water? No, I'm good now. I'm on, I'm on my Ramadan. It's just amazing. Like, and that just lets you know your mental fortitude because, you know, now you see people with intermittent fasting, whatever. Yeah. You know, to try to lose weight. So there is a point when you do it that you're like, man, I need something. And then it goes away. You go through the wall. You go through the wall. And if you're spiritually connected like he was, you know, he's sitting, he's praying and it like he's, he's spiritually connected. He broke through the wall easier. Yeah. Where for me,

if I'm intermittent fasting, I'm not breaking through that wall. It takes a lot. It's because he's playing for something bigger, that's bigger than himself. And so he's almost drawing strength from that. Whereas if you try to do it, you're like, I'm going to play through this because I'd really like to be able to see like my second ab in a month, which doesn't give me the same motivation. It's not the same motivation at all. And it doesn't put the same pressure on it because you're not doing it for yourself. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like taking the prep. Dean Smith used to say, we used to like, we play a big game North Carolina State or Duke or somebody, I'm not Duke, the school from Durham. Sorry. If we play one of them and he go,

coming in, you think he's going to have this big rah-rah speech and he go, you know, there's billions of people in China that don't even know we're playing today. All right, let's go. And that was it. That was the pregame speech. And we go out. Yeah. And it just put things in perspective. Yeah, put you at ease. It puts you at ease. So, you know, that you know, it's big, it's bigger than you. This is not, this is nothing. Yeah. You mentioned the school from Durham. I'm a big time Coach K. Hader. How awesome was that sending him off the way that North Carolina did? I'm a hater and I loved it. Well, you have to do the whole like, fake respect thing. No, it's not fake.

Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Because when someone or something brings the best out of you, you can't really hate it. You have to have a level of respect for it. And their teams, they will bring the best out of you if you're not ready when he was there. So, I got to respect it. Actually, it was one of my final schools too. And, you know, between North Carolina and Duke in Virginia. So, those are like only three schools I visited. So, I always had a respect for what they was. But I just knew we were better. Yeah. Why did you pick UNC over Duke? Well, there's a lot of reasons. But I think a lot of schools had at that time, they were like, oh, we have a great basketball program. We have a great academics. We have a great social life.

But North Carolina had all three. They're like at everything. It was like, you ever see like movies when you're growing up or got college life? You go, damn. It's frat houses and studying and whatever it might basket. Women. Just say women. Yeah. Yeah. The girls. And the colors. I have a theory there. Everything. Yeah. Even like, because you watch a movie and you're like, it's not just the women. It had everything. Yeah. It was like the size of it. Like, you know, that big university, like, you know, those fake universities, a big, big U is coming to you. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And he got game. Yeah. It looks like that. Yeah. And I was like, I was amazed by that. Like, I was just amazed. It looked, it felt like every day I was on a movie set. It didn't

feel like it was real. Yeah. I do have a theory that like, at least 20% of the student population at UNC goes to UNC just because the colors are that good. The colors. I mean, it is like, you'd wear it the rest of your life. Like being able to wear the Carolina blue for the rest of your life is pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Yeah. And you, you think about how athletics affects, you know, the decisions of academic academia, because most people like don't hear about schools. The first time they hear about them is through sport. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to go to that school because it's sport, you know, and they don't know about the academic stuff. Yeah. All right. So this current playoffs, it's wide open. It feels the most wide open.

It's been in a long time. Oh, it's the NCAA tournament. Yeah. Right. It's this parody. Like every team has a flaw. Every team has a strength gun to your head knowing right now. So we're taking this on Thursday. We're going to run it Friday. So there are some game sixes playing on Thursday night. Who do you have? The best overall team in basketball is the Denver Nuggets. Yep. Yep. I like it. I like it. I mean, they have an MVP candidate. They have a great point guard in Murray. They have young players Gordon and Porter that kind of got some season and got bench with green. They have no holes. They're good coaching. They have no holes. They just don't have experience. Like there is a different when you it's harder to get to the finals than win it.

Oh, I like that. It is. I actually agree with that because like even the Warriors, we, you know, they're going to play game six on Friday night. But game five, I bet the Warriors because I was like this, like you could just tell that like, Hey, this team, they won't go out like this. Like they have, they, they're, aren't going to panic. They know it's an uphill climb to come back three one, but they also aren't going to be like, we got to like do everything different. It's like, no, we got to just, you know, play our ball. It's hard. It's hard to, because there's a threshold panic. Yeah. There's a threshold very similar to what we just talking about. There's a threshold in the fasting that you got to break through, not just to get an ab. You know what

I mean? Just like you said, it's like you have to give yourself other than yourself to break through that threshold for a team. And when, and that, you can only learn it by experiencing it. And it's hard. I can't even describe it just the same way. If you say, when you're hungry and you're fasting, how do you break through that hour when you want to eat and you did it? You can't really explain it verbally, but you did it. It's the exact same feeling. Like you cannot explain it, but you got to go through it to get to the West, when you're in that Western Conference Finals, or you're getting that Western semis, and you're like, I got to break through. We got to break through as a team. And you go, and then all of a sudden,

you're like, man, you realize how valuable Scotty Brooks was, who was the 11th man on the team. And you start realizing how valuable that is. And no one understands if you're like, oh, Tristan Thompson is just on the team for show because he's a Kardashian. There's something that he's got to do to help that team break through, even as a guy who's not playing. Yeah, they've also got the best mascot in the NBA right now. Rocky, have you seen, did you see the ladder shot that he made the other day? No. Oh, you're talking about that. Oh, yeah. Rocky's always been. A ladder on a ladder and threw it back over his head. And Rocky's been. They're playing for Rocky. You played in Denver, right?

I played in them. Rocky and the Houston Rockets got turbo was the best. Also, respect to the Phoenix Sunscrew in the history, like turbo was crazy. When you play in Denver, people always talk about the altitude when it comes to football. That's and that seems to be the end of the conversation. But in basketball, it makes a difference too, right? Yeah, it's funny how it's also psychological. Well, like when you really think about it, you feel it more. Yeah, right. Yeah, but it they I don't like for me, it would only it did affect me like in terms of I didn't get as tired. But I would get dizzy. But most people don't realize Utah is at a higher altitude.

And no one ever says playing in Utah is tough with the altitude. Yeah, that's a big time. People forget that. And it's bigger. But those first like when you come in and warm up, like when I felt I would warm up, I would try to warm up there harder because I get dizzy. I would get a little dizzy. And I knew it was from the altitude, just like for like a minute, like you feel a little like a little lightheaded. And then it kind of like it subsides and it goes away. And in about second quarter, you don't feel it. But that first quarter, you Denver, I felt the burning in my throat. Utah felt lightheaded. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So on the other side of that, what happens to Denver to make them not win the championship? What's the what's their weakness?

You said everybody's got holes. That's just a fact. The weakness is like Will Gordon and Porter break through the threshold and become famous. Like the regular season is when you make your name, the playoffs, you get famous. That's fame. Like people know me, you know, he broke the NBA record for threes. He hit the three to tie it up in the NBA finals. They don't say anything about, yo, against the Clippers in game 63, this dude, I never get asked about when I had a game when a I had a game when against the Clippers, I've never been asked about. I was actually gonna ask you about it. I never talked about it until just talk about it. So the game winner they hit against the Clippers. That must have been an amazing moment. Exactly. It was going through your head.

Going through my head is like, okay, where am I going after? What's popping in the city tonight? And I hit the game winner. Somebody might remember that. So they haven't had those moments that Wiggins and Poole have had in playoffs. Now we know them for that. Like we know the pool party not for the regular season because it was last year. So now when he's in the playoffs, he's struggling. We're like, yo, yo, where are you? Like what you're doing because it was the playoffs that he did. Right. You guys obviously part of the reason why everyone loves your show is that you guys are honest and it doesn't feel it feels like four friends sitting on a set talking about basketball, having a conversation or four friends that will lie to

each other in their face. Yeah, that too. No, I wasn't there. That wasn't me. Yeah. But has there ever, what player has been the most mad at something you guys have said? What's player? Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant what's one of us. Shaq gets the madest at what we say. Oh, I love. Yeah, I love when Shaq gets mad. You could tell too. Shaq gets easily the madest. Yeah. Well, he's the new guy. We've been 14 years. I was saying you could do 20 more years of it and he'll still be the new guy because that's just how our brains work. He just like, well, that is how it works. He's going to get mad if you have to hit it. Charles calls him petty white. Richard petty. So yeah, but I don't, well, no one's ever been mad at me the way I think Kevin Durant has been mad

at Chuck. That's true. Or have that fuel. Because I have a rule. I never, I'm never going to say anything about your your passion or your heart. I can't measure that. But if your ass don't run back on D, I'm gonna be like, yo, he doesn't get back. He doesn't have the effort. Look, he's not running back. He's not being in his position. And you can't fool me because like I, I'm not, I'm a toot my horn. I think I'm the best in the business of breaking down film. I know what your defensive assignment is one based on the last three plays. Right. It's like, so you weren't there. Like, you can't lie. Run, let me run to the big boy. Let me hit my knees together and run to the big board and try to see what goes on. And I'm gonna show it so they never, they might not like what

I say or point it out, but they can never be mad. Because I never like, yo, this dude doesn't have any heart. Yeah, you had a race with Ernie to the big board the other day. He almost beat you. Some were saying that, that he was going to beat you to the last step because I've been doing some, uh, this treatment on my legs now. They did get you what, uh, was it this week or last week when they talked treatment on your legs? Are you talking about squats? No, it's a treatment, man. I'm working out steroids. It's not, it's a, it's a, it's a machine and it's a workout with it. And it's called a newbie. And I've been doing that with and doing, just to get to the board. Just so because I was like, I'm like, man, I'm not running like I used to run, man. This is crazy.

So you're saying Ernie will never beat you. He'll never. They did lock, they locked your chair. Like, was it last week or this week? They locked your chair. Beat me. Let me show you something. That was very funny. Okay. I could never do this because we are on camera too. So I couldn't do this. Right. Yeah. It couldn't get up. Oh, one leg. All right. Let's race to the board. Now I just beat you. Can't beat me now. What happens if Ernie beats you? You got to put some, you said never. So you got to put some stakes on it. Never. So if he beats you, you got to spend yourself. No, that's not fair. Because if I bet you a bet on a never, I'm the only one that loses because never could never happen for you and you never have to pay up. So, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's

true. There has to be a time limit. He will never beat me this year. And what are you going to give him? No, what are you? Let's make the bet because you seem like you got some Ernie Johnson fanfare going on. If Ernie beats you to the board, right? You have to get a cat. Yeah. How about that? And I have a dog already. Yeah, you got to get a cat. That is the stupidest bet ever. Yeah, that's pretty stupid. It is. Stupidest bet I've ever heard about. And if he doesn't, if he doesn't, Hank, our producer has to get a cat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pizza party. No, pizza party. No, I don't want a pizza party. You don't like pizza? No. What's the matter with you? You have to get a pig, a guinea pig. Oh, a guinea pig. Well, how many more times are you going to race? It might not even last for next

year. You should do it for next year because there's only like two weeks left. There's no more games left. There's no, we might not go back to the studio, but one more time. Yeah, okay. There's no more on the road for next year. Next year. Next year. Next year, all next season. Oh, I'll be flying through this. I'll be jumping. You know how we have those stairs? I'll be jumping from one to the top. Okay. All right. So next year, you get a cat. If you beat you, we'll get a guinea pig. Yeah. And you got to have it in studio. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Done. Deal. Done. Deal. Done deal. So we got a roof for Ernie next year. I'm going to poison the shit out of you. Yeah. Got a roof for Ernie. I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, if I see Ernie like winning, I'm running in tackling. I don't

want a cat. No, I don't want a cat. They're too sneaky. Oh, all right. Well, Kenny, this has been awesome. Every go buy the book. It is, if you're watching on YouTube right now, you can see it. Talk of champion stories of the people who made me. I have one last question. Yes. It's a rowback question. RHOBACK.com use code take for 20% off your first purchase. QZips, polos, hoodies, shorts, everything at RHOBACK.com promo code take for 20% off your first purchase. Non basketball related. We actually were down in Miami this past weekend for F1. You were there too. How was it? F1 was the first time ever being there. Yeah. It was fun. Did you have fun? Knew your way around a little bit. Yeah. F1 was fun. I don't know. I had some hot spots. Yeah,

you had some fun. I had a little bit of fun. Yeah. What? What? I don't get it. I was just asking if you had fun. You said you had fun. I want you to have fun. I went to F1 and the heat game on the same day. Oh. So I went from F1. I started at like noon, left at three, got to the heat game at 345. The first quarter just started. Watched the game. Then went to my main man, Miles at prime 112, went to the prime 112, finished the night. It was fun. It sounds awesome. Yeah. You got some beach time? It's really hot down there. I'll see. You know what? You know what the funny thing is? Well, we watched your show. I had no idea where you were. I was like, what are you talking about? I just caught the joke. Because the funny thing is I'm like,

is it really news that I'm on a beach? I was like, it really is. There's 10,000 people here. And it was trending. And I was like, well, maybe it wasn't me. Yeah, maybe it wasn't you in the picture. But yeah, like fun. It looked like fun. I got one follow up question. This is basketball. This is strictly basketball related, though. Just see if you know players in the NBA. Pop quiz, where is Anderson Verreja from? From Brazil. You really know a lot about Brazil. Wow. You know, this man is you must know some people from Brazil. My Portuguese is picked up. All right. Well, Kenny, thank you as always, man. Great to see you in person. That was good too. Yeah, that was better than what Charles did. We'll see you, man.

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I have a parking space in a garage and I've probably done, to get into the parking space, I turn around in the garage and then I park facing so the car is looking at the exit. So it's just easier to get out. Get back and get out. Yep. Done the 3-point turn. I don't know, I was thinking about how many times, probably 500 times. Pretty simple 3-point turn. Sometimes there's more cars, so it's a little bit tighter, but it's pretty standard, pretty basic. Can do it in my sleep. Monday, I don't know, I don't know what was going on. I don't know if this is Celtics Lost Hangover. Went to Target, just got a couple groceries, was coming back six o'clock and six o'clock at night. Do the 3-point turn, wasn't even looking, go to put it in drive and just crunched

into a pole. That's in my garage. But you have cameras on this car? I do have cameras. I wasn't looking at that. It was like a, you know, it's just a one, two, three. I've done it so many times, I wasn't even thinking. And I'm getting ready to sell the car and I have to get it fixed now and it's a whole fucking ordeal. This is my old car I sold to you for $1. You're selling it to Max for $2. But I have to spend, I took it yesterday to the shop, I have to spend $2,300 to get it fixed. Oh, so you can't drive it now? No, you can drive it. So could Max still buy it from you? Could you pay Max? Sounds like it would be cheaper if you paid Max $1,000 to take your car. Yeah, technically this car has been totaled. No. Well, it's a $2 car. Oh, true. Yeah, that's true. So it

is totaled. Also, that sucks. I feel bad for you. You haven't had anyone just hand you $2,500 recently, right? I could cover that. Well, no. Anyone in this room? No, I won a court settlement. Oh, okay, got it. Legally and, you know, the state determined that I was entitled to that money. Got it. Yes, you're paying taxes on that money too, since the state determined. You should. Okay. You should. Yep. That sucks. Yeah, it's just a whole, I put off, I mean, I feel like yesterday I really locked in was like figure figure shit out because I put a lot of the Chicago move and just logistical stuff off until after Miami. So having to deal with the car thing is not a fun wrinkle. Wrinkle. Yeah. Should we get the windshield fixed? Yeah. Okay, nice. I do think you should

sell it to Max though for like negative money. No, I might give, I might, I got to talk to him, but I might give him money and he has to go fix it. I mean, that's kind of what I did with you. The windshield was broken and I was like here, take my car for $1. Not my problem. Yeah. So and I could just, we'll see. But yeah, it's just, there's nothing more. I mean, I've had that happen actually in that car when I first got it, I just was backing out of a spot and I like hit a pole, maybe going like three miles an hour and it just shattered the tail light. There's just, because you know, it's not that big of a deal, but you're like, how am I so fucking stupid? Hank and Al Horford handshake meme missing three pointers. Damn. I'm gonna, we'll come back

to that. We'll come back to that. You might have been wrong, PFT. No, I was, I was referring to the last game. Oh, okay. Well, no, the last game art. Yeah. Yeah. I was referring to the real last game that we had on Tuesday. Two games ago. Hank, did you like those texts I gave you? I just sent you some Etsy stuff. Yeah, what big? I just thought we have a vision board or a golf podcast now. So I just sent him a bunch of pictures that say like golf is life, like in life. These things are, these things are seven P in life. There's hard choices and it's just a picture of all the golf clubs. Yeah. I can't even read the text on it. My favorite is I only golf on days that end in Y. Yeah. So just something for your vision, you know, maybe get a little board going. So I just thought

you wanted a little something to get, you know, get the pieces flowing. I appreciate it. This is all facts. I'm reading facts. Yeah. Okay. PFT. My Firefest the week is just basically that I've been in airports a week. I've just, I've become an airport user to the degree where I now recognize people that work at the airports. It's like I'm a local at the airports. Yeah. They recognize me and they're like, welcome back, sir. You got any clubs? You a club member? No. Well, here's the real Firefest is spending this much time in airports and it's not like we haven't traveled at all as a podcast over the seven years that we've been doing this show. I still don't have TSA pre-check. Yeah, that's crazy. And I don't have a frequent flyer number. Well, you were you were you and you

and Hank both were kind of riding on my coattails for a while. Yeah. When we booked, if we booked a flight all of us together, you would get pre-check because I had pre-check, which feels like a pretty big loophole. It is. But I put off getting pre-check for so long, which is more potent than the actual check some say, because I don't I have clear. So if I have clear, but the double it's awesome. TSA pre-check on steroids. So now when they've instituted the double where you get the pre-check plus clear, I cut the line of pre-check and at certain airports, they have the clear only station pretty much in Siberia, where you have to walk for like 30 minutes to get to this one sad room and then go with the other clear standard members through there. But it's been I really

should have had a frequent flyer number at some point, but I've reached the point where now I just think about all the miles that I would have had and that makes me so upset that I kind of refuse to get it now in the future. I'm like, well, I'm probably not going to travel anymore for this this is a lesson though. Our corporations in America just like they get fat on off guys like us. Yeah, who don't fill out paperwork, don't take vacations, don't get refunds, don't you know, like if they if they send me a voucher, I won't use it in time all that shit. Like we are a dream when they do the whole, you know, graph and they say these are the amount of people that won't actually opt in for these freebies. Yeah, we're the poster child. Yeah. And when it comes to the

frequent flyer numbers, I'm pretty sure that if you don't have one, the person who books your travel just puts theirs in. Yeah. And they're like, I'm going to take those miles. So now like spider is going to be traveling across all your country. Yeah, he's got all my all my flyer miles for like seven years. Yeah. So I've just been in airports nonstop, but I've gotten really good. I've reached the point where now I get upset at people that don't know the rules as they're going through the line. I'm that traveler now, where I'm just like, come on, man, it's not that you don't have to take your shoes off. You see that machine? That's that's a Litos machine. Yeah. You don't need to do your shoes off for that. And actually, I was on a plane two days ago.

And the flight attendant gave the big pregame speech of like, put your phones in airplane mode that you hear you guys never follow that, right? No, I've not I don't think I've ever put my phone in airplane mode, at least for the last six or seven years. No, nobody does. Never. So I ignored it. I don't have a charger. Yeah, to save some battery. But I ignored it as one does and as everybody else on the plane does. And then about five minutes later, they get back on the intercom and they're like, Hey, I'm serious. Not only do you guys can't have your phone on the data. Everybody has to turn their phone off on this plane right now before we take off. And they were like serious about it. That's crazy. And I was looking around. And everybody was just like,

Yeah, okay, so we all turned our phones off, except for the guy next to me. I was about to dial him out. I was like, No, you can't do this guy. But I didn't. I wanted to. Because if they may, I don't want to fly on an airplane where the possibility that some guys playing Candy Crush will result in the plane not taking off. And they made it sound like that. I'm pretty sure the dude was just on a power trip. Right. Because I've never had the double speech about, Hey, I'm serious about putting your phones on. I think it's just they want you to pay attention. That's really what because I remember, I mean, I think, did we ever do a Mount Rushmore of stupid things we thought as kids? Yeah, you've Yeah, you've talked to the Game Boy basically

controlling the plane. Also, I thought testicles were just Play-Doh in your nut sack. But yeah, I like, I'm pretty sure when you realize the moment that it's just because they want you to pay attention. Yeah, you're just like, Fuck this, I'm not paying attention. I used to think that if I got a boner, it may not have AIDS. There were I mean, we actually, the AIDS scare was they shouldn't have been telling second graders, Hey, you're going to get AIDS. I definitely thought like drinking a water fountain. Yeah, I blame Magic John. Yeah, there's some fucked up the awareness and going around the awareness was raised too high. Yeah. But yeah, so basically, I'm just a full time traveler now. Yeah, that sucks. But you know, what are you going to do?

It's been, it's been a very fast paced last couple weeks. I'm looking forward to like just getting some sleep maybe this weekend. But the travel, people don't realize that travel sitting down in a plane makes you so tired. Yeah. And just sitting down in a cab makes you so tired. Dude, you got to do 10x health while you're on the plane. What is that? Every hour you get up and you go to the bathroom and you do 100 squats. It won't be annoying for anyone else. Only 100. Yeah, it won't be annoying for anyone else on the plane. That's the Russell Wilson workout. Start doing high knees in the aisle. Like this is what I do when I like you have to have oxidized water, eat almonds. It's a whole thing that just makes traveling even worse than it already is.

And it's the worst thing ever. That would actually rock because this is about a 45 minute flight from DC to New York. So to get my workout in on that 45 minute flight, that would be like 100x. Dude, if Mark Cuban purchased my brain, I had the idea of dentists on airplanes. Just take care of all the bad things that you have to do in life on an airplane. It should be a gym on the airplane. Yes, there should be a gym. There should be a dentist. There should be able to get your hair cut. You should be able to get your taxes done. When you get on an airplane, it should just be like, here's everything you've been putting off, fixing Hank's car, all that stuff. There should be showers on an airplane. Should be an auto repair shop on the airplane.

Yep. What? What are you looking at, Max? Max is a limited mindset kind of guy. No, just the showers one was weird, I thought. Why? Because it was all, I think showers are nice. Well, after you, oh, that's true. No, you're talking about baths. You were sitting there. I'm talking showers. The shower is nice, so it doesn't fit with doing the shit that you don't want to do on an airplane. There should be somebody with a hot water hose that just goes through the aisle, just sprays everybody down on the plane. No, the shower should be in a room with holes on the floor that you're standing on. And that's how rain gets made. And the water just comes out.

So it's a double shower. You're showering on the people you're flying over to. It's like Dave Matthews going over to the Chicago Bridge. It would evaporate by the time it landed. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, probably. It becomes a cloud. All right, my firefest is a pretty simple one. My daughter's birthday is coming up. We're doing a Moana themed birthday party. And I think I was I was trying to be a good father. I'm thinking about maybe dressing up like Maui, which is played by the rock. It's animation. And I don't think I could pull it off. And I think that I'd scare all the children if I try to do that, because you'd have to,

I'd have to my shirt off. You just get the tattoos. Yeah, tattoos. So it's it's one of those moments where it's like, hey, maybe you should get in shape for your kids, not even so that you can live longer, just so you could dress up like Maui, because that'd be like a cool thing for me to do. So I don't know. I mean this not as an insult. No, it's fine. You can insult me. Well, it's not about you. Okay. Max could pull off Moana. Oh, what's the name? Maui. Maui Max could pull off Maui like really, really well. Max 200 bucks. Does Maui have 200 bucks for one hour? Just just just come by and just entertain the kids.

200 bucks one hour. Bring your club. I'm negotiating right now. 300 bucks. 500 bucks. Okay, done. But you have to be shirtless. That like that's way scarier. That's way worse. Dude, it's a it's a compliment. Actually, this dude's powerful. Yeah, he is. It's it's a great movie, by the way. It's in my head. Also, I forgot, but like Disney movies when we were growing up, they're all scary. I've been watching Little Mermaid. Ursula is so fucking scary. Yeah. The Lion King is basically like a Shakespeare play where like there's murder and yeah, a lot of murder. I don't know. It's it's weird because I feel like they don't make the scary movies anymore for kids. But watch Little Mermaid. I'm like, dude, Ursula

still gives me the freaks me out. Yeah. Aladdin's pretty scary too. Yeah. Ursula just like she's fat and she's just mean. She is fat, Jake. She is very fat. Ursula. She's very fat. What was the Russian one? Fantasia? Oh, yeah. Frozen. That was a little bit past us. That was little mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King. I miss him one. Peter Pan. No, too early, I think. Anastasia. Those were the big three. Fantasia was that was the musical one. Fantasia is also kind of scary. It was a little bit scary. It had all the axes. You know, have you guys ever heard the theory about Frozen? No. Oh, yes. Why Walt Disney called why they called the movie Frozen? I do. But tell it for the people. It's so that now

there was all these rumors out there and it might be true that Walt Disney froze his entire body or at least his head so it could be reanimated once they come up with the technology to bring people back to life. And so they named the movie Frozen so that people when they googled Walt Disney Frozen body or Walt Disney Frozen head, the first page on Google would just be filled with things about Frozen the movie, which is actually a genius. Yeah. It's a smart move. We should we should name this podcast Chinless. Yeah. That way when Hank has to shave his to soul patch, you just find that instead of him. This will be the episode Chinless Hank. Chinless Hank. I'm gonna look good. Hmm. That's stop. Not true. That's just not true. I think you will Hank. Thank you.

Not you just walk right into it. Not dude. You should have seen your face. You got fucking owned there. Billy. Firefest. No, like honestly, if anybody I think would be handsome, I think it would be Hank with this old patch. Anybody in this room, I mean, you'd be the handsomest. Not gonna respond. Song. Listen, I didn't respond. So you did by saying I'm not gonna respond. It's not like you've been, you know, spending a decade calling me fat. So I'll be nice when you have to get a soul patch. Okay, great. Great. Great. I already have one. Max is mad right now. Yeah. He did like that. You're whatever you jinx it. All right. It's Friday, dude. Understand. The people listening to this is Friday. All right, Billy. So I got a small backyard and every Friday I have to

weed it before I can like use it for the weekend because the weeds grow back in five days. It's insane. Why do you have to weed it though? So that I can chill back there. You can't chill amongst the weeds because that's what like makes it buggy. Oh, okay. That's what brings the ticks out. Yeah. There's no way you've weeded that backyard more than twice. No, seriously, I've weeded it like every Friday. Billy, do you think that maybe right now, hypothetically, do you think that maybe one of those weeds that you spent so much time rubbing your arms and legs on has given you the rash that you've had for the past six months? Good question, PFT. They use gloves, but they still touch you. No, that's not it. Okay. I'm just putting it out there. That's a good point. Put it out there.

You might want to check. That's a good point. That's a good point. Just an update. I have now purchased $200 worth of Maui costumes. A couple different sizes. We're going to see how this goes. I'll update everyone. Why don't you just get the muscle suit? Well, there's a suit that you can wear, but it's going to be scary because I'm going to be fat and it's going to be... I'll send a picture when I do it, but I'm committed to it. Billy, so you're just weeding all the time in your backyard? Yeah. It's a nice activity. It's kind of relaxing, but they keep fucking growing. Well, that is what weeds do. But in five days? Why don't you just get weed killer? Because that's bad for you. That's okay. Look up atrazine. I'll take your word for it.

Orange, right? It's an easy solution. You don't have to touch it. You just kill the weeds. They're gone. Just look up what Roundup does. Okay. All right. I trust you. Yeah. Kills the weeds. You don't have to weed anymore. Also, thanks to everybody for the kind words. Oh, people like kind words? People like kind words. We told you that people would be fine with it. There was a lot of kind words. I appreciate it. Nice. What was the meanest thing? Yeah, I want to hear the meanest shit that was said. Just give me one mean one. But I knew that the majority of AWLs would be nice about it. They know there was a majority. I don't. Yeah, I almost don't want to say this because it might

negate all the. Okay. All right. All right. Your show. Yeah. Don't don't highlight the negative. Text it to me. I want to laugh about it. All right. Jake finishes off. We have to redo the golf video. Which one? Because my fault we played by the wrong rules and alternate shot. Oh, yeah. Fuck the people. Dude, that's not scramble. I don't know what the fuck any of this shit is. We just go out and golf and it's funny. And it's fine. And I should have been on top of that. I take responsibility. You're supposed to tee off. No, no, no. Jake, Jake, Jake, we're going to we're going to do whenever we make a golf video. My promise to the AWLs is we're going to say that we're playing one way and then play the opposite way. Well,

fucking memes. I was talking about that. I was like, yeah, I didn't I didn't realize that we fucked up the rules. He's like, oh, I did. But I don't lie. He had no idea. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like he's like, I knew I don't know. I said, I knew the whole time. I just didn't say anything. I actually blame Hank, because Hank was competing in it. And so Hank knew that the rules were being broken and he still let it go on. No, no, I didn't realize I didn't know what a best I didn't know what a best ball on a screen was. Yeah. As much as I know I was no, I knew the difference between that. But the alternate shot say someone, if Hank finishes a hole, big guy doesn't automatically care. No, I, I, I care.

Oh, I care. I care very much just because we lost. Like I actually, I actually wouldn't care. But because we lost, this is a great out for me. My firefest is because the AWLs certainly cared. And guess what I say to them? Don't care. We are going to make it my mission that we always say we're doing one rule, explain the rules and play a different way just to make people upset. That's funny because like to watch a video and have us explain that we're playing it one way and then play a different way, which we consistently played the entire time. Right. And then be like, this video, how can I watch it? You said you were doing this. Shut the fuck up. I also think it's it's impossible to make a golf video with with you not fucking up a rule

somehow. Like they will find something wrong with everything that you do. This is what golf fans do when there's no U.S. Open where they can call in rules because some guy didn't tie his shoes in a bunker. They go to YouTube golf videos and they deputize themselves as like police officers. Yeah. They're like, you know, actually, this is all fucked up. I'm calling the cops. I have a video coming out next week and I had to pick up on a par three because I couldn't get out on a bunker. So I googled like, what do I write down on my score before people come after infinity. So I think an eight you shot infinity. Usually we play double playing for all time. We'll score ever on a par three. I don't know. I'm worse round of golf by 15. 15. Yeah. So that's my firefest.

I screw up the rules, but don't care. Yeah. My firefest is that you care. Honestly, don't listen to anyone. No, but like, I need to know for the rules to like, we're gonna be doing a lot of videos. No, no, no, no. Did you hear what I said? We're gonna purposely screw up the rules just to make everyone even extra match. I'm gonna take three practice shots in a bunker. I'm gonna actually practice. I saw this one guy shoot in the other day where he basically like pick it like he picks up the ball like it's like Kurt Irish curling. Yeah. And he like holds it on his golf club and then like launches it. I'm gonna try to do that. I like that. So mad. You know what? We should put it in a rule. Oh, no, he's like to do that because you can't push the ball. I looked up the rule.

Who cares? I'm gonna start doing that. It's like when I'm like like 20 feet out, just grab a nice fucking sandwich and just like hold it and then maybe even walk it to the hole and dunk it in. We should put in a rule where you can you can kick your shot like you can set up your next shot. If you're like in the woods, you can get a one legged swing and then you can try to kick the ball to safety and then that's your next shot. We should have one one throw one throw per hole. Yeah. Why not? That'd be a great video. Yeah, we're in just to make you. Oh, man. Okay. Great show, everyone. Who has a Oh, you have a soul patch right now? Yeah, I definitely do not have a soul patch right now. That's confirmed. That's a fact. Same with

me. B ball Paul. Correct. Yeah. And PFT. Yeah. Also same with me. There's only one person who has the possibility of a soul patch. Do I? Yeah, it is. Yes. Right now there's do I have one though? No, but I possibly could have. Do I have one or not? It's like a 50 chance. Well, you have one, but you also have the rest of it surrounding it at least. So yes, you do have a soul patch. Correct. Yeah, there is hair on that little it might just not be like only a soul patch bonus firefest. I have realized that like me having a soul patch makes absolutely zero difference because people just be like correct. PFT's got shitty facial hair. Okay. You know what though? More at news at 11. This is one of those things you had to find your own

path. Yeah. Because we told you this three weeks ago, but you had to find your own path. I've known that I've been faceballed for years, but ironically, the soul patch is the one thing that grows in true. Yeah, but I told you like, I think it might look more ridiculous than you guys think it'll look, but still people just be like, okay, you got bogus. It was like I said, when it first came up, it'd be like if I was like, Hey, let's do a bet who can gain 10 pounds. Yeah, or a mustache. Yeah. All right. Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope. Have you ever gotten this? You've ever gotten this lottery ball? Nope. Numbers 17. Nice job. PFT six. I'll go 99. Let's go 17. Let's go 17. Oh, I see 17 right there. That's a good position. Oh, we're going to get 17.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. He got it. He got it. He got it. He got it. Oh, my God. First time ever for Hank. First time ever for number six. Let's go. Let's go. Thank you, PFT. There was silence for a few seconds. It's over. Thank you, PFT. At least the Celtics lost. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. What are you tweeting? You can't do it, Hank. Oh, my God. I'm putting us on. Oh, my God. The Sixers have to win tonight because he can't. How is he going to celebrate this show if. Oh, my God. They're finally backfired on. I think we got to get rid of this lottery bull machine. It's broken. What is this? What? What? You're not doing money anymore? No, you never gave me money. From the 2,500 I gave you. I won that. I can't believe you got it.

Oh, my God. This sucks. This actually is the biggest firefest ever. Hank, what do I owe you? I'll pay Hank. I'm heartbroken. What do I owe you, Hank? Did we just put on the shirts too? Yeah. Oh, my God. Congratulations. Oh, I can't wait. I hope if I see you when you're wearing one, I can't fucking wait. Congratulations. Congrats on getting one lottery ball. That, wow. He's all the way back. He's all the way back. Let's calculate the probability of getting it once in how many times? That was the first time for his number, six, and now 26 is the only number. That's a nine. Wait, that's a nine, big cat. Oh, that is a nine. It's a nine. That's a nine. It's not a six. That's a nine. No, the line's under. Jake, shut the fuck up. Damn it, Jake.

What the fuck is wrong with you, Jake? Hank was buying. No, I mean, I know it's brutal. Jake was, once he did it, oh, my God, like that was a great call. One of your best. Oh, my God. I mean, for the listener, for people who are just listening, they probably thought it would be broken. Can we end the show when Hank thought it was number nine? There were no airwaves for like three seconds. Oh, man, this sucks. Good job, Hank. I'm so happy for you. How are you going to celebrate? You fucking piece of shit. Congrats, dude. This makes tonight even crazier. It's known on yourself that you're this happy about it. Yeah, it's actually sad. No, no, no, no. No, Hank, what a loser. I love the fans of the show. I love going out. Yeah, we know. The fucking

people coming up to me every two seconds and there's whispering numbers in my ear, yelling numbers at me, driving past me in the street and yelling numbers coming up to me in the grocery stores would be like, Hank, if you ever go on this, like, I'm happy you're listening to the show. I'm so happy. I don't have to deal with that anymore. I think it's sad how much you're celebrating this. Yeah. Dude, it's a number of your story line. You should have gotten this three years ago. Yeah. Well, you know what's worse? It's like graduating when you're 22 and everyone's like, oh, my God, I can't believe that you get worse because you force me into getting it. Like you could have, if you would just let me do my thing. Yeah. I wouldn't have gotten it. Yeah, it's true. You're

welcome. I know. I thank you forever. That was one of the best things you've ever done for me. You're welcome. And I knew because you picked 17, which I would have picked. So I kind of got it. But then I know when someone else picked 17, my strategy was pick one of the numbers that has been picked because the worst case scenario would have been if all the numbers had gotten picked and it would have been one more number down if you hadn't picked 17. Do you want me to grab you champagne? Yeah. Yes, please. All right. Actually, no, no, I'm not drinking champagne. I'm not drinking champagne. That would have been so great.

Me and Max. Me and Max almost got it. Hank, here's what we're going to do. Me and Max just had a moment where we looked at each other like, Hank's about to do the Max champagne thing. Oh, man. I almost got it. Hank, well, so congratulations. You've gotten it. We'll keep doing this lottery ball. I think what we should do is I'm going to buy a bigger lottery ball machine for the Chicago office so we can start all afresh on on someone not getting it. So we'll start afresh. And maybe you'll be the first one to get that one. This one is sad. I'm sad. It's bittersweet. No, I sweet. No, I know it's sweet for you. You fucking piece of shit. I'm going to have a kid. Yeah. That's right. Do you want to tell him now? I'm going to have a kid,

Hank. Are you fucking serious? Yeah. Anything you want to say to me? I don't know. This is fake. No, it's not. No, it's only told me. I'm going to be a dad. I'm going to be a dad. I also have cancer. Okay. Very, very sick. And oh, Billy already used his. All right. Congrats, Hank. It sucks. If the Celtics win this series now, Hank is it's it's going to be the summer Hank and he's going to just own the whole summer. But if they lose tonight, is this a happy show or a sad show for Hank? Oh, he's definitely still sad. No, I have a fucking soul. I think I think the lottery helps a lot. No, it's not bigger. Yes, I think the lottery ball was so much bigger than Celtics.

Yeah, it's like, again, it's like going out of the soul patch, going out of the soul patch and having people yell numbers at you the whole time. That not having to be a thing is great. I think you just I think you made a deal with devil. It's like the cursed monkey paw. You can get a wish and you wish to get the lottery ball correct. But the sacrifice that you have to pay is that your Celtics. No, I think God has been putting me through the ringer as a Boston sports fan the last couple weeks. Shut the fuck up. This is his way of showing me that we're on the way back. All right, well, Hank, I am actually there's a part of me that's I wanted you to get it eventually. I just wish it had gone like five more years. Well, it's just like, you know, like you love the

storyline. It's like, we would have been one away from the lottery ball machine beating me if PFT didn't pick 17. Yeah, that's great. That would have been I would have been shitting my pants. Jake's been staring at me for the last 30 seconds trying to figure out if I'm really going to be a dad. Yeah, I think we're all wait, aren't you way more concerned about my cancer? A lot of cells dividing on the side of the table. Um, I will be a dad. I'm going to be a dad. One day or I love you guys. Oh, they're trying to clone the Tasmanian devil. Also, go to my Twitter if you want to see the greatest fair fight of all time. Billy hot takes it's pinned.

Talking away. I don't know what I'm to say. I'll say it anyway. Today is another day to find you. Shying away. I'll be coming for your love. Okay. Take me home. I'll be gone in a day or two. So needless to say I'm on sentence. But that's me. I'm stumbling away. Slowly learning that life is okay and say after me. It's no better to be safe than sorry and take on me.

Take me home. I'll be gone in a day or two. I'll be gone in a day or two. I know things that you say. Is it liable just to play my worries away? You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take me home.

I'll be gone in a day or two. I'll be gone in a day or two. In a day or two. Thank you so much. Thank you guys. Thank you very much. Wonderful.