Pardon My Take - Kevin Bacon, Jags Coach Doug Marrone, And Media Trades

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

We have a media trade in the works. Al Michaels to ESPN for a player to be named later. What would happen if we could trade everyone in the media? (3:27 - 9:28) Eli Manning in Chicago? (9:28 -16:07) Tom Brady update (16:07 - 21:09). Fyre Fest of the Week (21:09 - 29:19). Actor and now podcaster Kevin Bacon joins the show to talk about his new show, his career, the one time someone wasn't pumped to meet Kevin Bacon and more (29:19 - 56:40). Jaguars coach Doug Marrone joins the show to talk about a tough 2019 year, fighting for his job, and the Astros robbing his Yankees of a title (56:40 - 90:12). Segments include coronavirus update, spinzone for Bill Clinton, a dramatic reading of Lebron James Instagram caption and FAQ's.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, we have a twofer, a twofer for the people. We have Kevin Bacon and Coach Doug Morone, Doug Morone, recurring guest, Kevin Bacon, first time guest. We've got Bacon and Bologna. Bacon and Bologna.

Don't Keddo today, boys. Fry it up, delicious, great interview with both those guys, little extra bonus, twofer on a Friday before all the crazy March Madness action starts next week. We have Firefest of the Week. We have a dramatic reading of LeBron James' caption and FAQs. Before we do all that though, pardon my take, is brought to you by the Cash App, the number one finance app on the App Store, and the easiest way to send, spend, and save money. Cash App is so easy to use, they're confident that we can explain who they are and what

they do without saying any of the following words, taboo style. We all have to do this. The words we cannot say, money, dollar, app, phone, buy, split, pay, send, receive, green, you, friend. All right. Oh boy. So, you got, I just gave you these drugs, how are you going now? Let's try somewhere else.

Okay. Start somewhere else. I just gave you this book. Yep. That has drugs in it. No. I gave you a book. It's something that you might want, but I don't know how to get it to you.

Do you have any ideas? Is hit me on the telly. Oh. On the telly. Hip's good. Send that bread. On the selly. You can say selly.

You got 5G. So, I'll hit you on the selly and then you'll tell me how much of that bread you want and I'll be like, look, I got a sandwich for you right now. Okay. Because I'm all about the cheddar. I'm liquid. Yep. I want to make you liquid.

You can even get less liquid by playing a little bit of the market with it. Guacamole. And the guac. Yeah. You got to get the guac. Jesus. You got to get extra guac. I'll send you the guac and then you just can confirm that the guac is there and then

guess what? The guac goes directly into your refrigerator. So I've always got guac ready to go when I need it or when somebody else needs my guac. So we're going fridge to fridge. No big deal. Okay. It's easy. We're playing in the fridge space right now.

All right. I think we actually nailed that. So download the Cash App, enter the referral code BARSTULE. You'll receive $10 and you can go buy actual guacamole with your $10. Maybe get a little extra Chipotle and the Cash App will send $10 to the ASPCA. Saving cats, saving dogs. Do it all. Download the Cash App from the App Store.

The cats and wide dogs. Yeah. Do it all. Download the Cash App from the App Store, Google Play Store today and get involved with the Cash App. Okay. Let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by the Cash App.

Go listen to our Cash App taboo that we just nailed. You're going to want to send the guacamole to and from your fridges and you can get $10 if you use code BARSTULE. And $10 of that goes to the ASPCA, saving some dogs, saving some cats. Today is Friday, March 6th, and we have a media trade. Oh boy, media trade. So nothing gets the juices flowing quite like a media trade. This really tells you where we are in the calendar.

The NFL League season hasn't started, free agency hasn't started, March Madness hasn't started, NBA playoffs, Stanley Cup playoffs, they haven't started. So we're talking media trade. I wouldn't poo poo this news like that because I feel like even if this was the end of the NFL season, we're still leading with the media trade. This could be during the Super Bowl and we'd be like, whoa, this is huge. So Al Michaels is in talks, apparently ABC, Disney, they own ESPN. Ever heard of them?

They're trying to get Al Michaels. NBC doesn't want to give them up, but ESPN wants Al Michaels maybe team them up with sheriff Peyton Manning, pay pay, put them in the booth together and make TV magic happen. Okay. So essentially, yeah, ESPN is trying to get the perfect booth in their minds of Al Michaels and pay pay together so they can get in the Super Bowl rotation. Everyone's going to watch Monday football for that. It actually makes sense because NBC has an embarrassment of riches with Mike Tariqo waiting

in the ring. He is there so that he can eventually take over the Sunday night job. So it's like, if they lose Al Michaels, obviously Al Michaels is a legend, but they have a guy who can slide right in, no problem, easy peasy. The question is, what can NBC get back in the trade? They got to, like what does, are all the contracts? They're cap ramifications that we have to look at. Like does Stephen A. Smith, is that a, is that a hang up the phone too fast?

Stephen A. Smith is untradable. What about Bomanie's expiring contract? Bomanie and Pablo as a team, as a unit going in there. That cap space comes off. I don't know if I could see Chris Collinsworth sliding into the two of them. Chris Collinsworth sliding into Mike Tariqo is actually like given Tariqo's greasy nature. I could see that happening. Also Jack Collinsworth just signed with NBC, never saw that one coming.

Maybe he gets, maybe he gets the, the booth right away. The Collinsworth, Collinsworth. He's earned it. Uh, what about Bob Leg? Oh dude, he's kind of retired. He kind of retired, but you know, it's been a lifelong dream of his probably to do, uh, summer Olympics. He's, he's been with the company since it started, but he hasn't gotten that chance.

He's, he's Marion Hossa having the allergic reaction to pads. So he's still on the, on the balance sheet. Right. He could come back, but he's out. He's having an allergic reaction to his beard, which he has to shave anyways for the coronavirus. So he'll go to NBC, he'll cover the summer Olympics. He's, you know that Bob Lee is not going to get pink eye. That guy does not eat ass.

Bob Lee is, uh, getting, has an allergic reaction to the fact that the NFL has seemingly gotten the concussions under control. Right. He's there. No more concussions to report on. So he is, he solved it. Can't do it. He can't be around anymore.

There's nothing left. When Bob Lee saw it, said nobody was getting hurt anymore. He just packed up his desk. He was like, my work here is done. What about if NBC got the rights to playmaker season two and they got to make the show? I would love to if like that, like if this actually was going on and they're like, well, you know what NBC's like, you know what, we'll throw in the eight, eight 10, like, go ahead, you can have Buck now.

Uh-huh. Or like, or like Mike Breen. Yeah. Oh, Mike Breen. Oh, good one. You know that, that. Bang. Dave Pash is like knocking on Jimmy Pitaro's door right now being like, please trade me.

Please get me the fuck out of here. Right. Right. I need to get out. Oh, that'd be an awesome booth though for basketball. This is Al Michaels and Bill Walton. Yes. Fuck.

Well, Scotch and soda going on. Do you think that they, do you think ESPN at any point was like, Hey, how about you? How about we package Max Kellerman and then it's just like, hello? Are you still there? Yeah. Hello. Hello. Did you hang up?

Did we, did we lose you? Just trying to unload people. He used to rap. Uh, yeah. Michelle Beatles expiring contract would probably be very attractive. She doesn't even like football. That's right. We were going to get in traded because apparently he is a NBC employee.

Yeah. He's also a little bit on the hot seat. We'll get to that later. Yeah. Um, what about Mr. Portnoy for Dickie V? Oh, okay. Oh, so we're talking now talking about all kinds of things like who would we trade? Yeah.

Yeah. Mr. Portnoy. No, I would. No, I would say Mr. Portnoy is more valuable than Dickie V at this point in professions. Yeah. Dickie. Mr. Portnoy still has like a decade left at least. We will trade, uh, Jake Marsh on weekends only in exchange for Darren Ravel's children.

We would actually have to put for Mr. Portnoy. We would have to put a clause in it. Like we will not trade Mr. Portnoy, uh, if Donald Trump becomes president again in 2020, because that will give him another four years of life. Yes. Like he will be, he'll be still feeling young, scrappy, complaining like he'll do everything because he has that in his life. So if that, if the election goes to the Democrats, Mr. Portnoy becomes an asset we no longer

want. Well, yeah, it's like the, the old, what do you do when you finally chase the car you've been chasing? Yes. Or when you catch the car you've been chasing. What about? Oh my God. Oh my God.

Oh my God. What if it's Greenie? Greenie's untouchable. You're right. NBC wouldn't even ask. That would stall all negotiations because Greenie's magic doesn't work the same for me if he's on NBC. No, no.

He's not a peacock guy. It would be a non-starter if they went, maybe that's how they anchor it. They're like Greenie and then they come back and they're like, okay, how about just Stephen A. Yeah. Smart. Um, but to, to address your previous allegations against Leroy, uh, Leroy reported accurately last night, in my opinion, and in his estimation, that Eli Manning was having dinner.

Okay. This is actually, instead of the Tom Brady update, we're just going to do, uh, Eli Manning bears updates for that one. Okay. Yeah. Eli Manning was having dinner with the bears last night, allegedly. Leroy heard that from a source close to the situation. I've heard from sources.

Inside the restaurant. I've heard from sources inside Hallis Hall that that's patently not true. Well, that would be a very logical thing for them to say. Because the tampering, yeah. Because if they admitted to it, then they would get punished. Ruth, did you see a picture? I saw a picture of a text message of someone saying Eli is in a restaurant. Yeah.

That's, and that's good enough to roll with it. I don't, I don't want to get anybody in trouble for it. Um, but yes, I am still relatively confident that Eli Manning, or Leroy is relatively. Do you ever feel bad that Leroy might have reported this incorrectly and then started an entire news cycle on this? Why would I? It seems like he wasn't there. And then that guy, who's that guy?

Well, yeah. Leroy's reporting the marquee network. Leroy's reporting was confirmed. Well, no. And they added details on it. No, he actually said no. He said, uh, he, he phrased the tweet like it was confirmed that he's like, I'm not confirming this whatsoever.

I'm just talking about a story that's going around. He added details to it. So he, he stacked the details. I truly believe that Eli Manning was having dinner with, uh, some representative from the Bears last night. They've said openly that they're looking for a veteran quarterback to bring in. There's no more veteran than Eli Manning. Yeah.

Eli though has said that he's retired and wanted to retire a giant and never wants to wear another uniform. And also it wouldn't play where he wasn't starting right at like the bonafide starter. These are all just sideshows to the report which was Eli Manning was eating a pork chop. Got it. Oh, it was a pork chop. Interesting. I don't think they have a pork chop on that menu.

At Orioles? Yeah. Well, that was, that was the other person's reporting. Interesting. Leroy never reported that Orioles was the rest of them. Oh, interesting. So he could have had a pork chop anywhere. Anywhere.

Anywhere. Got it. But so you're saying that the report that he was at that restaurant now is incorrect. The report that he was at a restaurant is correct. Right. Now in Chicago. Yes. With the Bears.

Uh, I never said in Chicago. Okay. With the Bears. Got it. So, uh, when that report came out, how tight did your butthole pucker? I actually went from, this is ridiculous to, uh, you know what? It would be fun. It would be fun.

Yeah. That's all we asked for, right? Yeah. The last thing that we want is a boring team. Yeah. Yeah. Eli Manning would give us something to talk about. We would, uh, I mean, Eli Manning would quickly, you know, there is no, the old saying goes

there's no one more popular than the backup Bears and backup quarterback in Chicago. So Eli Manning would immediately be the most popular guy in town. Oh, you don't think he'd start? Uh, no, I think you'd have to earn it. I think you would start as QB too. Would you be a little bit. We're committed to Mitch. Mitch is our quarterback.

Rex is our quarterback. That Arch. Round and round we go. That Arch would call in, Archie Manning would call in a favor since he's the shadow commissioner. I want Arch. I want to start my, start my boy. I want Arch Manning. Maybe that's what they're doing.

He's just waiting for his nephew in like six years. Right. What if this is like a, a Knicks type deal where they're getting the person who's connected to the free agent that they want. So they're just bringing Eli on to be a part of the front office and then low and behold six years from now, they pull an Eli Manning and on draft day demand to be traded to the Bears. Yeah.

Maybe it's like LeBron wants to play with Brani and Eli, his dream, his entire life is to play with his nephew. There you go. That's definitely possible. I could actually see that being real like, I want to play with Arch. One year Eli Manning had an incredible turkey bowl where he threw for like seven touchdowns all to Arch and he's like one day, one day buddy, me and you getting back together in the big leagues.

This is just dawning on me right now. How big of a fucking suck up is Cooper Manning naming his son Arch? Like we get it, dude. You didn't make it to the NFL. You don't have to suck up to your dad by naming your son Arch. That's just one of Cooper's classic gags. Oh, it's so funny. Arch.

All right. So one last thing about the media trade. How much does it suck to be Joe Tessitore and Booger right now? Yeah, I feel bad for Booger. I feel bad for Booger. He's had a rough go of it the last couple of weeks, both of them once really everyone talking about your job. They're just like, Hey, we want this dream team.

Our dream team booth is out there. And if we don't get it, we'll just go with this again. Listen, Booger has been taking out his frustrations on that Peloton recently. He's been posting his scores and tagging me in all of them. And he's putting up numbers that Lance Armstrong could not put up in his prime. Yeah. Booger's finishing in like 11th place out of 5,000 people in a Peloton class. He's a beast.

Just like Dominant just had a pure rage because everyone won't stop talking about his job. Maybe he needs to tweet those numbers so that he can start ESPN's like, Wow. He is. Oh, he is. Peyton's not on the Peloton. He is tweeting those numbers. Peyton's neck. Okay.

Can Peyton look side to side? I don't think Peyton could get on a Peloton to save his life. Is there a steroid test at ESPN for spouses? Definitely not. The only other thing in this media trade that I loved is the idea that- John Booger grass is definitely on the juice. Oh, yeah. The idea that Phil Rivers is also being talked about because Phil Rivers, I can't believe

we've never even thought of this, but is there not a more perfect guy? You don't have to worry about him ever swearing. He's likable. He's got the Southern twang. He'll be animated. Phil Rivers needs to be in a booth. Get a Bolo tie up there. Fuck yeah.

I would really, really enjoy that. Just having a Southern accent in the booth is always comforting for some reason. Absolutely. If I hear Marty Smith just commentating something, he's like, My daddy taught me when I was a little boy, he said Marty, I automatically stop on that channel because I'm like, This is so folksy. I got to hear the story that he's telling to Nick Saban on his boat for the one week a year that Saban takes a little bit of time off.

What's the guy's name? Right. Right Thompson. Right Thompson. He used, I mean, they use him for every single SEC game ever. And I, every time I hear his voice, I'm like, Holy shit, this guy, like we're ready to go. Yeah.

It's fall. Yeah. Let's get a little Southern accent going up in that booth. Maybe just have a right Thompson beater. I guess Builder is a Southern accent. Yeah. He's got to. Shit.

We're doing the ESPN thing. We're basically ESPN execs. Like we need a Southern accent. Listen, we need a Southern accent. We need a guy who played in the NFL. And a quarterback. A Super Bowl winner. No.

With a Southern accent. No, because Tony Romo never won a Super Bowl. No, I know. We got to capture some of that. Some of that magic. The blueprints out there. Big cat. We need a quarterback that played in the last 15 years that never won a Super Bowl and

might have a little bit of a Southern. Oh, shit. There you go. Phillip Rivers. We need a, we need an Italian guy with an easy pronounced name, whereas last name starts with a T. Mike Tarrico. Oh yeah.

All right. Perfect. We don't have that. That sucks for them. I do feel bad for them. All right. We got to get to Firefest. But before we do that, barstowgold.com slash PMT.

We also have to do Tom Brady update. Yes. Tom Brady update. So the update is there was a phone call and it didn't go well. What that means? No one knows. Maybe bad reception. Maybe it's like, hey, can you hear me?

I'd like it cut out. Bill and, Bill and Tom talking, chopping it up. Bill and Tom's excellent adventures. It also depends who you ask because some say it didn't quote unquote go well. Other people say it was just Belichick was all business. Interesting. But no business was conducted. Right.

But he was... All business would be good if they actually talked turkey and had an understanding. My question is, what would you expect Bill Belichick after 20 years of being your coach? What would you expect him to say? Would you expect him to get on the phone and be like, hey, Tom, I love you so much, man. We really, really want you back. We don't get you back. I don't know what we're going to do.

That's not Belichick. Tom, I was thinking about you and I'm getting there. Hey, Tom, think about me switching back and forth between me calling the plays and Steve calling the plays. So I think that Belichick was probably like, hey, Tom, you know... It was never going to get done in one phone call. He was probably like, Tom, listen, you know where all the bodies are buried. You know all the cheating stuff that we've done.

I just want to make sure that it's cool if you go somewhere like, we're cool, right? You're like, hey, dude, you're not going to say anything. I won't say anything. I know about when you smashed your cell phone and you gave it to me. So just want to make sure that like... He's got that last call. All good, right? Like, hey, if you go somewhere else, like we're not...

We agree, like we're not going to talk about each other, right? It's the after bachelor party email that we talk about where Bill's just like, hey, this goes without saying, but everything that happened in Foxboro stays in Foxboro. If you are that guy, if you are that guy who on the Monday after a bachelor party emails the entire group and says, hey guys, just want to make sure that everything that happened this weekend, we're not going to talk about when the wedding comes around. We're a douche bag and it makes me want to talk about it more because guess what? Oh, you are going to talk about it.

Why don't you just trust the fact that we went on a bachelor party together? You don't have to be that guy. You made it awkward for everyone. Now we make you pay. Do you think that Bill actually gets down into brass tacks and talks about numbers? You think he's like, Tom, we're thinking two years, 17 million a year, what do you say? 17 million a year.

Not on the first phone call. Yeah, you got to do a little... You got to warm them up. Like, you've been looking really young. Did you do anything with your face? No. Been scowling. No, I was talking about Bill Chex saying that to Brady.

Tom, have you been eating extra less strawberries? You'll admit that he's got plastic surgery, right? Is Botox plastic surgery? No. Botox is just injecting microorganisms. I'm on the record. No, I don't think he's gone under the needle. I'm on the record that if I were that rich, I would absolutely get plastic surgery, so

I'm not judging. It's just awkward. It's like Erlacher, when he got his hair, he did a video right away. If he had just shown up with hair, like when Whitton showed up with it, we're all like, what's going on here, dude? Yeah. You can't just show up with hair one day and expect us to act normal. You can't do plastic surgery and everyone be like, yeah, it's cool.

I think if you make a certain amount of money, you'd be an idiot not to get Botox after you turn 40. But if I was a rich somebody, I'd be Leipo, Botox, fucking Ass implant, calf implant, bicep implant. One person. This is kind of random. Brain implant. Yeah.

You can just read and then go to the gym. Shut up. I'd look strong. You know all these words. Dude, that's the whole point of being rich is you can take shortcuts on life. John Cena's been scaring me lately with his like, oh, big time. It's fucking weird. Big time.

I think every time I see him, I get freaked out. I think what happens is when people decide to go down the road of plastic surgery, like one plastic surgery can be OK. But then they get one and they're like, wait, this looks kind of weird. Let me get another one to fix the weirdness of the first one. And then it's then you end up being Wayne Newton. Yeah. Cheryl David.

Yeah. Oh, my favorite person in the entire world was that guy on the real life or true life. I need calf implants. Yes. Do you remember him? Yeah. He had a total package here, but my calves just suck. And to his credit, he had some shitty, shitty calves.

That's what they based that character off. That storyline for Johnny Drama was based off this shithead on true life. And he seriously just had like string bean calves. And so he got this like these calf implants and then had to spend like three weeks crawling around his house because he couldn't use his legs to walk. Love it. It's awesome television. Whatever it takes to look good.

OK, before we get to our interviews, we have Kevin Bacon and then Doug Marrone. You do a quick fire fest. Sure. All right. Hank, why don't you start? I have multiple actually this week. Whoa. Why don't you save one for later when you don't have one, when your life is so awesome.

Well, they're all kind of relevant to this week. I just had a festival heavy week. OK. My first one is not related to me, but the Nick guy, the tightrope, actual fire, actual fire fest. Nick Willenda. Nick Willenda. The Willendas.

Now is my fire fest is tuning in to watch him potentially die in a fire and then I found out that he was on a harness. So even if he fell, correct, he wasn't going to die. So it was a completely pointless TV viewing experience. Always is. Always is. Fuck the Willendas. He was tightrope walking over a fire.

Over a volcano. Yes. Listen, the Willendas. A live volcano. But if you fell, it's like, oh, shit, got to walk it over a volcano. No. That'd be awesome if you fell. No.

That'd be electric TV. Then you tune in and it's like, if he falls, he's fine. I hate the Willendas so much. You end up just watching a dude talk on his walkie talkie to his wife about God for 30 minutes. Well, no, there's no even like proximity to death. He doesn't wobble ever. I'll tell you what, Willendas, if you hired me as a PR consultant, I'd fix it.

Wait, there's multiple of them? Yeah, it's a whole family. Flying Willendas. Yeah. Here's the PR fix. One of you has to die. Yeah. On TV.

On live TV. Their dad died, I think. I know. But it's been too long. Yeah. On a tightrope and Puerto Rico. I need a pay-per-view death on TV. I think what's going on with them is that he usually goes without a net, without any

sort of harness. They have like Joel Osteen at the end, like just smiling his big, fake teeth and he like never wobbles. He always goes perfectly straight. It's a rope. It's so thick. This one, he has a big, thick-ass rope. This one, the volcano, I think they were worried that if you fall into a volcano, you

will automatically go to hell, which I think is true. Yeah, that is true. I think that's true. It's a portal. And they're big God guys. Yeah. So that's probably why they brought the harness out for this one. Fuck the Willendas.

Disavow the Willendas. We are an anti-Willenda podcast. Unless they want to come on and let me say that to their face, then they're more than welcome to come on. My second one was that I said Beth Phoenix. I'll slip them poison. I'm not happy with the Willendas. R.K. Ode Sting.

Oh, yeah. Beth Phoenix is Sting's wife. It's actually Ed's wife. I don't think I've ever gotten more tweets, so I just want to say I'm sorry for that. That was a mistake by me. Apology not accepted. Sting versus Edge. It's like one, I mean, yeah, I don't know.

I really don't know how I fucked it up either, but my third one is that Kendrick Perkins has been ghosting me. Yeah, it's tough. So one of my favorite Celtics players of all time, I said something on the part of my Twitter about getting him on, and he was like, set it up. Let's make it happen. I DMed him. He was like, yo, huge fan.

We'd love to get you on. Here's our studio address, blah, blah, blah. He's like, all right, I'm in New York next week. Let's make it happen. And then I'm on like probably five or six or seven new messages. And the worst part is Kendrick Perkins is forever online. So he's tweeted probably 300 times since that. And I'm getting to the point where I'm like, I kind of want to just be like, dude, I see

you online. You're on your phone. You're on your phone. Like just look. Can I give you some advice? Sure. You've come off a little thirsty with your Kendrick Perkins. I think you have to.

Yeah. And it's one of those ones where it's like, it's not just regular booking. It's like, I actually am a huge Perkins fan. Right. And he can feel that. He can feel that. So I feel like you have to go to the other side of the equation and like start flirting publicly with someone you know that he hates, which is pretty much everyone else, right?

Everyone that he hasn't played with in the NBA. He doesn't a lot of people. Right. So find somebody that he doesn't like and then start going after them. Let him see that. And he'll be like, oh, yeah, these guys, I got to get there first, either that or we'll just put like a big ass fake spread of food, like delicious looking food on our table and just take a picture at that and send it to him and he'll be like, yeah, I'll be there.

Just tweet. Do a quote board and be like, we had Ray Allen on the podcast and be like, Ray Allen says Kendrick Perkins is a pussy. Yeah. And then he'll definitely get upset about that. Yes. And then he'll never come on the air to discuss. Yeah.

You got a firefest, PFT? I do. The best is I'm going to the caps game tonight. Okay. I'm going to Madison Square Garden. I'm going to try to use that employee entrance that they leave open for celebrities. And I am doing sober October until Friday night and it's a Thursday night right now. Tough.

And so I don't know what I'm going to do. Like go into a hockey game and not having a cold beer in your hand. It's going to feel weird. You could just have a beer. I could have a beer, but I'm doing sober October by January and so I feel like technically though you're probably still have alcohol in your stream from this weekend. So you might as well. I haven't started yet.

You might as well. So you can drink tonight and then start next Monday. Right. So it'll probably actually, if I drink a little bit more, it'll probably push the rest of the alcohol out of my system. Right. So I'll be totally clean by Monday. Yes.

There you go. Firefest fixed. There we go. Rare that we fix a firefest. And I've lost like 1.2 pounds this week. Huge. Yeah. You took a big shit or what?

I feel really healthy. I stopped being on a bender. So that works. That works. All right. My firefest is the new Twitter stories, but not because I care or actually it is because I don't care. Twitter stories is coming out.

They've debuted it. And this is the first time Twitter's made a change where I just am like, whatever. And I think that that like apathy is going to kill me. It means that you're getting old. Yeah. Yeah. Like I usually a good Twitter change would get the blood boiling. Like when they changed to 260 or 80 characters or whatever, when they changed the stars to

the hearts, when they changed quote tweets and all that stuff, there's a million things they've changed that I've gotten so angry about. This happened. And I was like, Stanley, who cares? Oh, you remember when they changed the avatar from a square to a circle? Yeah. That pissed me off. Right.

But I don't care. And I'm mad about the story. So what because you've been using stories already just on a different platform? But I just don't care. It's sad. This tells me that Twitter is absolutely losing a step. If it took them like three and a half, four years to copy a feature on another platform, you got to do that shit within like six months instantly and be like, oh, parallel mind.

Yeah. Facebook's like, oh, we were coming out with stories too right after Snapchat did. Oh, shit. You beat us to it. But we've been planning it for years. Yeah. Fuck. So yeah, I don't care anymore.

It's bad. It's bad. That's the first step of just dying. Yeah. Stop caring about little things that change on Twitter. They said that there's going to be a small difference in how their stories are being used as opposed to Instagram. Don't care.

Don't care. You don't even care what that functionality might be. Well, I'm sure it will be 12 seconds instead of 15. Let me get you interested in Twitter again. You ready for this? Yeah. What if they made a super like, a super like button? What would it do?

I don't know. You could only use it once a week. It's also doing the thing where I think they haven't done it yet, but they're going to roll it out where you can say things that only are temporary temporarily there. Cyberdust. Yes. On Twitter though. That's the same thing as a story though.

Interesting. No, but it's like a tweet. I don't know. It's different than a story. No, I think they were saying like they're temporarily there because they only last for 24 hours. And then they delete and then it deletes. Something like that.

I believe it's separate. Yeah. I believe it's separate than stories, but I could be wrong. Got it. Well, either way, I don't care. All right. Let's do our interviews. We have Kevin Bacon, Doug Morone before we get to those jumpsuit January is officially

over, which means it's back to us wearing our Mugsy jeans. Mugsy jeans are the most comfortable men's jeans ever made. You've heard the name from us before. Mugsy jeans are the only jeans we wear because they look like jeans, but feel like sweatpants. I'm telling you, this is actually a fact. They are the most comfortable jeans I have ever worn. No exaggeration. Mugsy was started by a stoolie who was tired of being comfortable in his jeans.

His goal was simple, reinvent men's jeans to look good and feel outrageously comfortable after five years of working with industry experts. You perfected jeans for the common man. The magic is in Mugsy's proprietary denim, which is made from a bunch of high-tech materials that make these jeans mind-blowingly soft and flexible. Even better, Mugsy comes in a stylish fit that's not too baggy, but not too tight so you somehow look even better than you feel. Mugsy jeans are sweeping the stoolie nation for good reason.

Take our word for it. Give Mugsy jeans a try and you won't be able to wear any other jeans again. Mugsy is so confident you'll love their jeans. They do free shipping and return, so your comfort is 100%. Guarantee, do your legs a favor. Head to Mugsy.com, that's M-U-G-S-Y.com to check out Mugsy's full lineup of jeans and safe for work chinos, including new sizes and styles. Use code PMT for $10 off.

That's a beer on us and a pair of the most comfortable men's jeans ever made by heading to Mugsy.com using code PMT. Okay, let's get to Kevin Bacon. Okay, we now welcome on. Very special guest. He is a acclaimed actor and now podcaster, Kevin Bacon, so let's start with that. Let's start with the podcast. You are encroaching on our turf.

You have a new podcast, The Last Degree of Kevin Bacon on Spotify. I'm going to give you a pass though because everyone in the world has a podcast now but you're doing it a little differently, so can you explain how it is different than everyone like us, idiots, getting in front of a mic and talking? I didn't even realize that it was such a thing that I had this feeling that everyone has but there's also this like really like kind of protective world. Somebody said to me something along the lines of like, listen, if you're going to get out there with a podcast, you better start listening to some podcasts, you know, and like I was

but still it was like a whole, you know, kind of like world. I could never do an interview show because it would have to be about the person being interviewed and I'm much too self-centered to spend a lot of time, you know, asking somebody else things about themselves. Plus, I'm just not a good interview. I would never be able to do that, nor would I ever put myself in a position of trying to share tidbits of wisdom because I don't really have any and so it's not like it's never really been interesting to me.

You know, like for instance, people have said to me, have you ever thought about writing a book like the last thing in the world that I would want to do is write a book like about my life? It's just not interesting. However, making fun of myself, making fun of Hollywood and celebrity and this weird kind of like meta life that I live and the whole six degrees thing is something that I've done in the past in comedic ways and that I really, really like. I've played myself a number of times and what happened was I had done this film, I've done

a few little things for Funny or Dive and the last one I did was called A Duck Walks in on a Couple Having Sex and it was a short film about me directing my first film and I'm playing myself, playing a very heightened version of myself, basically, just an asshole. Now you say it's a heightened version of you but I feel like that's the opposite of you. I feel like you're in terms of Hollywood actors, people who have been in the business forever, you're a normal guy who seems to have a grounded view of life. I think that's true but I also think that if your famous life is weird, you know what

I mean? So you did say like just now that being famous is weird, does it still feel weird even though you've been famous for so long now? I mean it's decades and decades, it still feels weird. Well in a way it actually feels more, I think what would feel weird nowadays would be not being famous. I think I tell you the story before. I can't remember, go ahead and say it again.

There was a story a few years ago, I wanted to see what it would be like not to be recognizable because you know it's funny because people say, let me tell you something, if you come to our town, no one's going to know you, no one's going to bother you, and it's just not true. It's 99% good. People all day long say I love you or you're awesome or whatever. I love that. I never take it for granted and I think that if you complain too much about being famous

then you really don't deserve to be famous anymore. You work your whole life to try to get this. So to get it and then bitch about it just doesn't make any sense. But there's times when you just think, God I would just be so interesting just to walk through the world and just kind of see the world without having the world constantly be looking back at you. And so I had a special effects makeup artist build me a disguise and he applied it and I decided to go out and I went out to, I don't know if you're familiar with the Grove in

Hollywood. It's a big outdoor mall basically crowded and tons of people shopping and the whole thing. And I walked through the Grove and nobody recognized me and all of a sudden I went, wow this sucks. I mean everyone's just treating me like a normal person. You have to wait for a table. You have to wait for a table. It sucks. Yeah.

It's nice to me for no reason at all. You know what I mean? You've thought that the world is like a really nice friendly place for the last 30 years. It's a little bit different sometimes when they don't have a reason to automatically be nice to you, right? Right. That's funny. I don't remember that story so that's, I mean it's a good thing to do every now and

then I would assume to like reset and be like, hey you know what's nice is being a little famous, having a little fame. It's nothing I take for granted honestly and I don't, like I said, you know there's two kinds of actors. Actors that want to be famous and liars. Yes. That's a good quote. You said 99% of the time it's nice.

I don't, I have never met somebody that has said like, I hate Kevin Bacon. Like I hate, he sucks. I hate Kevin. Oh I have. Really? Are there actively Kevin Bacon haters out there? What was their issue? There was a guy came up to me, this has happened multiple times, but years ago I came up, I

was in a small town in North Carolina, I was shooting a movie and we go out with the crew. The town I was actually shooting in was a dry town so we had to go over to this other town to go out so we go to the bar, it was a local bar, you know kind of, you know basically kind of a redneck bar and we're sitting there and this guy comes to my table and his name was Tiny and to say that this fucking guy was huge is like the understatement, I mean I know people will say that I'm building him up to be bigger than he is but he was huge and my friend Eric was with me who's about, I think he's about 6'3 and the guy comes over to me, Eric and I are sitting, he had come, Eric had come down to visit me and we're

sitting there having a beer and the guy comes over and he goes, hey are you Kevin Bacon? And I said, yeah he goes, I hate Kevin Bacon, I want to kill him and I said okay and I thought he was kidding and he was not kidding. What did he say, a role that you played? No, no, he just, he was just a drunk kid that wanted to fight me, I feel like he loved Jack Nicholson's character from a few years ago and he's like you should have arrested him, he was trying to protect you. Yeah, he hated you in Animal House, you were one of the douchebags, like I don't, but

it was one of those crazy times when I just stood up and I said yeah it's me and do something about it. I don't know why you want to, I'm not sure why you want to do this but and he pulled back his fist and it was like a fucking cauliflower and I stood there and there was another guy, a little skinny guy who was standing behind me with a pool cue in his hand behind me. He was like hit him, tiny, hit him, hit him. You know, this is a true story. Holy fuck.

And for some reason we just kind of stood there and looked at each other for a while and some girl in the bar came up and said, tiny you leave him alone, what did he ever do to you? And he just backed down. I'm so curious why he hates you. I'm also a little bit disappointed in tiny because it sounds like he'd been waiting for this moment his entire life. He hates Kevin Bacon and what are the odds that Kevin Bacon walks into his watering

hole and boon North Carolina or whatever it is and he's got his one opportunity and then he pushes out. Yeah, he said every day he went to the same bar and he's like if Kevin Bacon ever walks in this bar I'm going to knock him out and then boom, he was a complete coward about it. It didn't happen. I really want to know what role or what you did to make him that mad. I'd love to tell you that I think it was a role. What's the one role you'd think that someone would have watched that and been like fuck

that guy? I don't know, maybe. Actually diner, you were kind of a jerk. I don't know. I don't know. I've been a jerk plenty of times. I'm not sure. Do you?

The Woodsman? Yeah, the Woodsman. I would kick the Woodsman's ass. I read when I was doing a little research here that you've played the role Jack, the name Jack, like something like six different times. Somebody told me that. Yeah, apparently it's a lot of Jacks. Do you think you get typecasts as a Jack?

Jacky right now. My character's name is Jacky. There you go. Yeah, that might be seven. Yeah. So do you think you get typecasts as a Jack? Because you do kind of look like a Jack, how do I say it? I don't know.

I don't know. And you've played a Jock too. I've played a Jock. So six times. What was that? Five Jocks, a Jacky, and a Jock. Let's see. He's Friday the 13th, Quicksilver, Few Good Men, Apollo 13, My Dog Skip, Frost Nixon,

and Super, you played Jock. That's seven. Okay, so Jacky on City on a Hill, so that's eight. I know it's very weird. That is weird. It's very weird. Jack Bacon. I bet you that there's very few other names that I've even doubled up on.

You know what it probably speaks to is like, it probably speaks to like writers liking the sound of that name for some reason. You're also kind of like an everyman look to you like, hey, that's, you know, that's Jack from. I wonder if, yeah, if we were to take a look at the amount of scripts produced in Hollywood right now, what percentage of like the leading males or the co-starring males would have the name Jack? Because it's kind of like at one time it's a strong ish name, but it's also like a non-threatening

name. You tend to like a Jack. Yes. Yes. How long do you think you're going to act for? Forever? Mm-hmm. Just forever?

Yeah. I mean, I would stop acting if you won an Oscar, and you did like the John L. Way, like going off on the course. No, well, that's the great thing about being an actor as opposed to, you know, you know, being a sportsman, I can keep acting and just start playing older guys, you know, and then eventually you start to play the guys at drool and then, you know, you're wearing a diaper and then Martin Scorzesi makes you younger again in some really bad effects and then you restart the whole thing.

Yeah, that's going to, that's, I think that's already being used even, not even as a flashback in time, just as a, you know, like a makeup technique. Really? Oh yeah. You can go and actually bank yourself. Like if I was 25 now, I would bank myself, bank the information, and then they can rent that back. Just say a bunch of lines you're saying?

No, just scan your face. Oh, yeah. It's like freezing your eggs. Yeah, just get all the stuff. But they can actually do it, I think, now from going back over movies, all right? You can, I don't know if you ever saw this, actually a really cool way that they did this technique in the scene, someone did it with a scene in The Shining where they put Jim Carey's face onto Nicholson and they just scanned a whole bunch of Jim Carey movies.

It's a deep fake. Yeah, they could deep fake Kevin Bacon, you could have Jack's forever. What Kevin Bacon would you want, like what year was your hottest? What was my hottest year? I know you were a sexiest man alive or one of the sexiest men alive in 1995. I've never been even in consideration. No, you were. I don't think so.

1995, yeah. No, I don't think so. And then it's like the old, like when you see like, I want to see the, I want to see the research. I'll find it out. Was it People Magazine or was it just like some guy, Kevin Bacon. Kevin Bacon. Like his stalker declared him.

Sexiest. Kevin Bacon. Sexiest in life. Yeah. Well, you've played a lot of Jacks. Have you ever gotten the call to play Jack Ryan, the Tom Clancy guy? No. That sucks.

So you've played like every Jack except for the most famous Jack. That's right. That's true. Sexiest actor alive in 1995. What happened? I don't know. I just don't. I just don't remember that.

It's like, it's like, it's like when a baby, when you're like, you used to be a cute baby. You were a cute baby. Bring back the nineties. That's why I love that. All right. So 1995 seems like the time that we would. There you go. That would be the year.

Oh, look at that. Look at glam mag. That would be the. You used it in a row. You had a dynasty. You're so humble. God damn it. I honestly.

That's a bad haircut. But no, I like the bangs. It's the bangs. Yeah. The bangs. You pretty much have the razor. That is bad. The constant.

I just got out of the shower. I'm sorry. I didn't try to set this up. This is cool. I got to talk to you about wild things because I mean, great movie, watched it several dozen times growing up. I don't know if you watch all your movies that you put out, but I have to assume that that one was one where you're like, got to make another trip to Blockbuster and run

wild things just for the triple kiss scene. I don't. I, you know, I don't, um, I watch them, I watch them as much as I can. I watch dailies and I like to watch cuts and early cuts. And then I like to see it with an audience and then I pretty much put it to bed. I, I, I don't think I've seen wild things since, since it came out. You haven't seen wild things. I mean, I've seen it.

I saw it like probably three, three, four times. It's pretty porn. Yeah. It's actually a funny thing back in the, in the, in the, going back to the podcast, Terry Gross is, is on, is a guest and she's, when you first meet Kevin Bacon, he's being interviewed by Terry Gross and she goes, Kevin, um, we want to, I want to talk about you, we want to talk to you about one of my favorite movies, wild things. It's really funny.

Do this Terry Gross interview all about wild things. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And there goes that. Uh, you showed your genitals in wild things. We have a clip. Is there one, uh, role that you played where you think back and like I nailed it, like

that's the one, that's the one where I, if you, if someone walked up to you and said, Kevin Bacon, uh, I want, I've never seen any of you or your movies. Give me one movie to watch where you're in it. What would you say? Uh, I'd say maybe, um, murder in the first. Okay. Um, uh, yeah, maybe that JFK, Mystic River, I don't know. Air up there?

Not the air. Damn. Fuck. Air up there was great. Mystic River was awesome. Mystic River was awesome. It was a big fan. The air up there was awesome.

I remember seeing that being like, this is cool. You go find awesome centers everywhere. Bob McAdoo was our technical advisor. Um, and Bob once said that one of the hardest things he ever had to do in his career was make me look like a basketball player. That's a direct quote. Okay. So it's like, uh, the, if you ever heard stories about white man can jump like Wesley

Snipes never played basketball before that. Yeah. Amazing. And they had to kind of like make it look like he knew how to play basketball. So you, you knew how to kind of play basketball. I went, you know, I got with. Um, he's a, he's a big college coach, uh, Steve Fisher, no, uh, Steve Lavin, Steve Lavin.

Oh, there it is. Yeah. He's not a coach anymore, but he was. He was at St. John's. He's all over the place. Right. Right. St. John's.

That's right. That's right. And, um, so Steve was, I was hanging out with Steve because I, you know, I tend to do researchy kind of stuff. It wasn't even so much on basketball skills, although he was, you know, also kind of helped me a little bit with that. Right. And then McAdoo came on and he went, Matt, Bob went to, uh, actually went to Africa with

us and, and was there to kind of choreograph all of the, all the basketball in the, in the show. Well, I loved that movie. So, but that's also like, we're now naming movies that we saw when we were like 12. Yeah. I don't know if it would hold. Yeah. I'll watch it and I'll decide if it held up or not.

I'm guessing maybe. I'm guessing it might not. Yeah. The last time I saw it was when I saw it and it was like, I was like 10 years old and I was like, this is the coolest movie ever. So good job. Thank you. Uh, when you, when you go on a podcast like this or when you do an interview, do you have

stories that you save up? Like is there one person where you're like, man, if I ever go on the Jimmy Kimmel show, I have to have a good anecdote ready to go. So I'm going to write this one down so I don't forget it. I have a thing on my phone. We call it panel. Uh, and we try to keep a list of things because everybody on, you know, on nighttime talk shows, uh, you know, there's a, there's a formula, which is they, they, it's, it's

short and they want funny anecdotes. That's kind of what they want. So, but I forget shit, you know, can you, can you give us one of your panel and give us one? Here, do this. I want to tell him one, start telling us a panel story, but, but then deviate from the truth and we'll try to stop you when you're starting to lie. Okay.

This is, and this is going to be fun. Welcome back to the Jimmy Fallon show. Uh, shout out Questlove. We did a funny little, we did a funny little kazoo bit where we played a popular song using the child's intros. Crack an egg over each other's head. All right. Pretty goofy stuff.

We're sitting down with Kevin Bacon. All right. I got this dog. My dog is like super, super prey driven, you know, really, really just loves to hunt and I'm not a, I'm not a hunter in the other, the other day she comes back, uh, from being out, you know, around the back of the house and, uh, she's got something in her mouth and I come outside and she's going to, she's got this possum in her mouth and it's like, shake, shake, shake.

And I'm like, drop it, drop it, drop it. She drops the possum and the possum is, is there and laying there and I'm like, oh shit, the dog. Oh, sorry, Jimmy. Holy shit. You're going to have to believe me. Yeah. We'll get that out.

Oops. Good job. Did that story happen? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's not over yet. Yeah.

It's not over yet. It's not over yet. The story was awesome. It's dead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Uh, you have to be kind of a bummer if that's what's the end of the story. I think it would make for exciting nighttime television. Good job, Kevin. That's why you don't get out of there. Yeah. A lot of letters coming in. Your dogs and Joey Porter's dogs. I have a feeling that there will already be letters coming in even just based on this

much of it. But now I got to clean this up. So I go to the barn and I get a shovel and a bag to come back and the possum is gone. Disappeared. And I'm, when I tell you that that possum looked dead, that possum looked dead. And I go into the house and Google playing possum. And I find out that the truth is that they actually do play possum. What I learned was that they don't, they do it involuntarily.

Okay. So basically what happens is if they have a shock and a, you know, some kind of quick trauma, they have something inside their body that makes them basically pass out and seem like they're dead. And it's a survival instinct. And what a hilarious story, huh? Wow. No wonder I haven't used it on any of this.

All right. So can I take your ticket real quick? All right. So you do the possum, you go inside, you come back out and the possum is alive and it killed your dog. Ah, there you go. That's a funny story. That's funny.

Wait, is that true? It's like just kidding. Playing possum. What's the laughs come tumbling down? Yeah. All right. Yeah. You can even say they was attacking your dog and then you came out and you defended

your dog. Yeah. And you kicked the possum and it flew like 30 yards. And that's when you knew that you were going to join the MLS team, the Red Bulls. Yeah. That's it. That's the movie. Well, fortunately, David Beckham was in your house because your movie stars hanging out

together and so David saw the possum, ran out, kicked it and the possum flew away using his kick power. I think this all works. Great. I mean, we are kind of writers. You can, you know, there is, with these stories, I think there's always tweakage that goes on, you know, plus the fact that people tend to, you know, embellish over time. Right.

Right. I think that's kind of a good story there. Yeah. We've got to work. We've got to possum a workshop. A dog attack. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm not thinking I might take that off of the list. Okay. Yeah. Probably take that one off the list. All right. I had a couple final questions for you. The Seeky question promo code take. Put it in.

You get $10 off promo code take. So we're with Kevin Bacon. He's got a new podcast on Spotify. I know this comes up in interviews, but I'm always fascinated because you never hear about it in Hollywood. You and your wife have been married for what, 35, 40 years now? 30. I don't want to get in trouble.

32. Well, 30-ish. Yeah. Do you ever like go to parties and see some people that you, you know, were friends with and they're on their fourth wife or they're on their fourth husband and you're like, well, that's kind of weird. Like, here we are. I don't know if you're friends with them.

You're a true anomaly though. Wouldn't you say in the Hollywood area? I'd say in Hollywood, it's like a Hollywood platinum. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But nobody has ever convinced me that marriages have a shorter shelf life in Hollywood than

they do anywhere else. Let's face it, marriage just doesn't work. Most people don't stay married. They just don't. I mean, that's, you know, you, but I don't know this. I haven't seen the statistics that indicate that it's any worse for celebrities. It's just that we hear about celebrities. Well, and also you have like the outliers like Kardashian and what's his name?

Chris Humphries. They got married for like 11 days. That kind of screws up the whole, the whole average there. The Belcher. Yeah. Right. It fucks everything up for everyone. Right.

But you're on the other side. You're trying to, you know, anchor it down. Yeah. Let's keep going. We're just, we're just having a good time together. You know, I, I, I have no, I have no explanation for it. Okay. Let me then ask a follow up question.

Is it weird that people bring it up in interviews? Cause now I feel weird. No, you should not feel weird. Okay. Yeah. You know, but what everybody's looking for is something that I've decided that I can't really give, which is, is a quote, you know, or advice or advice. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, you know, we used to both use, we used to both say, keep the fights clean in the sex dirty. And then I, you know, people were like, that's funny, but really seriously, how do you do it? You know, and, and then so I stopped even doing that. You know, I kind of feel like to try to put it in words. First off, it's not going to apply to you or anybody else, you know, it's only because

of us. And whenever I see any of these quotes, she's my best friend, you know, oh, she just, we make each other laugh. I'm, I just want to puke on my shoes. I mean, I, I, I don't, I can't really, I can't go there. So we need to make up a new story when you say like, keep the fights clean in the sex dirty. Be like, every time we're going to fight, we actually dress up in tuxedos.

And by the time we put them on, we're like, what were we even fighting about? There it is. We're laughing. Yeah. Let me write that down. Yeah. That's a pretty good one. And then I dress, I dress up like her and she dresses up like me.

And then we fight from the other person's perspective and it allows us to see maybe what my partner was being upset about. There you go. It's actually not a bad story. Yeah. If this comes up in every interview, you should just use this to make up whatever story you want because people will believe it. That's true.

But then you're going to get like a sound bite or a quote that's taken out of context from this interview that you're trying to bullshit this weird answer to. And then your wife's going to seem to be like, Hey, what the hell was that about? Yeah. I was just joking with them. They were idiots. They didn't know it better. I mean, there's really no good, what I've found is there's really no good way to answer

this. Either it looks like saccharine and sweet, or it looks like you're being judgmental of other people in the way that they run their lives, or it's just stupid. Or just do the anti-comedy and anytime anyone brings it up, you're like, Actually, we just got divorced. Yeah. I'm just coming from the signing of the papers. That's one thing I do say.

I usually say, Well, I give it six months. All right. I got one last, last question. I'll let you go. I heard a rumor that you pay wedding DJs 20 bucks not to play any songs from Footloose. Is that true? I have done that. I have done that in the past.

That has happened. Yes. I don't do it on a regular basis because I don't go to that many weddings. I don't go to weddings for this very reason because they're going to play Footloose. That's why you've never had a divorce and remarried because you don't want them to play Footloose. Let me explain to you what the thinking behind that is. In your wedding, that is the one day maybe that you're ever going to have in your life

where you are the stars, where the bride and the groom are the, they are the biggest names on the call sheet, as we like to say, they are the top, they've got top billing. Then there's a supporting cast of the, you know, the bridesmaids and the grooms and the parents on both sides. And way down at the bottom is me, right? And so when you get to a wedding, I don't want to become the focus of attention. But what happens is everyone's really cool at the beginning for like the ceremony because the alcohol has not come out.

But in the course of the evening, as people start to drink and get looser and looser, if they put on that song, everyone will form a circle around me, clapping their hands and wanting me to come out and start, you know, dancing around like a trained monkey. And I just don't want to do it because it takes the focus away from the bride and groom. That's how I feel. I honestly feel like it's, it's not, this should not be a night about me. Some people are saying you can't do the footloose dance anymore. Well, there's that too.

That's what people have been saying. That's what I heard. Yeah, there's that too. That's a very nice sentiment, but it also gives you a good opportunity to go up to a wedding DJ at the store and be like, Hey, just so you know, I'm Kevin Bacon. I know you're probably thinking about playing footloose later on tonight, but here's 20 bucks. Maybe you just keep that, you know, you keep that one on the back of the CD rack tonight.

And yeah, which I've done and then there's also the rest of the guy goes, thanks for the 20. I have no idea who you are. Yeah. Or he says, I'm actually going to play it 10 times now because you should have paid me a hundred. Right. Yeah.

Or he says, what's footloose? Yeah. Right. Yeah. All right. Well, Kevin Bacon, thank you so much. Do we get any extra credit for not bringing up six degrees of yes, you do. Okay.

Yes. So that's, I don't know how. Of course, the podcast is called the last degree of Kevin Bacon true, but we didn't try to play the game with you. No, you didn't. So we didn't know credit for that. You do get credit. I got to tell you.

You definitely get credit. Yeah. So go listen to last degree of Kevin Bacon on Spotify. Please also, you're about to do another interview. Okay. Don't do the tiny story because that was a great story. So let's keep that exclusive. Okay.

Yeah, I won't do tiny. I won't go to your panel in your phone for, it's a pretty, I got to do the awesome story again. That one, you can, we're okay with you telling the possum story, tiny, tiny story is a pretty exclusive story, especially since I just made it up here. Okay. Thanks to God guys. That was fun.

That interview with Kevin Bacon was brought to you by Roman. It's allergy season. You know what that means, sneezing, watery eyes, runny nose, the works. So you head to the pharmacy, you're looking for relief, but research shows that 80% of allergy sufferers fail to select the best medication off the shelf to treat their symptoms. On the flip side, you could end up spending forever in a specialist waiting room or trying to get an appointment to get prescription treatment. Our friends at Roman are now offering prescription allergy relief delivered right to your door.

Roman takes the guessing game out of finding the right allergy treatment. You can pick up your phone, pick up your laptop, complete a free online visit with a US licensed physician and they're going to develop a personalized allergy treatment plan that works just for you. All of Roman's allergy treatment options were hand selected by their board certified ENT so they know that you're getting expert recommendations. And speaking of that pharmacy, don't even go to it. Don't go there.

Roman's pharmacy is going to ship your medication directly to your door with free two day shipping. You also get free unlimited follow ups with your doctor anytime you have questions or you want to talk about adjusting your treatment plan. Allergy season is one of the worst times of year but with Roman, there's no commitments. You can cancel anytime. So stop wandering aimlessly through the allergy treatment aisle at the pharmacy. Go to getroman.com slash barstool. Get a free online visit today.

That's getroman.com slash barstool. That interview was also brought to you by Let Go. Let Go is the fastest growing mobile marketplace to buy and sell locally. If you're looking to sell, Let Go gives you an opportunity to turn your unused items into experiences. I might have to move soon. My landlord's selling my apartment. So guess what that means for me?

Probably going to have to get rid of some stuff. Where am I going to get rid of it? You got it on Let Go. If you're looking to buy, Let Go gives you access to a lifestyle that you otherwise couldn't afford. You can get designer brands, cars, sneakers. It's the go to place to help you through life changes such as moving back to school. If you're new parents, if you're newlyweds, Let Go is the app for you.

Download the Let Go mobile app at letgo.com slash barstool. Lead it us. Let us know what you're going to do with that extra money or let us know what you got off of Let Go. We got this Mike Allsdott jersey hanging out right behind me in the studio from Let Go. So you can buy, you can sell sneakers outfits, you can sell kids old clothing if they've grown out of it. You can sell that old treadmill that you never use, buy yourself a weekend getaway, all sorts

of stuff on Let Go. Download that app right now. Letgo.com slash barstool and let me personally know what you're going to do with that extra money or what you're going to be selling on Let Go. And now Doug Marrone. Doug Marrone. Marrone. Marrone.

Oof. Marrone. And now for something completely different. Okay. We now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests. He's been on the show. This is your fourth time. Third time, fourth time.

Doug Marrone. Yeah. Yeah. Is that your phone? Yep. I got to shut my phone off. No, no, you're fine. You have an alarm going off.

You got an alarm going off. Wait, that's your watch going off. All guy like of you to have a watch that makes this is a Garmin watch because I'm trying to lose weight. How's the steps? What do you got today? I got like all these calories and how many steps you got today? I got hold on.

I got 4,200. Not to brag. I got 280. Oh my gosh. That's not very many. What are you even doing? That's not right. I've been in meetings all day.

I've been in meetings all day. Yes. Okay. All right. So let's start with this is a fascinating interview because you're like Nikki Six. Remember when Nikki Six, Motley Crude, died and came back to life? Died. Exactly.

I'm a big Motley Crude guy. You know, they're on stadium tours. Yeah, you were dead. Coming out of place. You were fired and then he came back to life. So what does it look like on the other side? Did you see God? You know, I don't know if you ever really have that type of thought process when you're

going into it because people are talking about it and you're like, hey, this is reality. Look, this is a job we chose and I've got to focus on here. This is my response. This is what I have to do. You know, the worst thing I think you can do in coaching is that when you start hearing stuff on the outside, it distracts you from what you're supposed to be doing. And then, you know what? What kind of leader are you?

And then you let people, you know, you're letting people down that are relying on you. So, you know, for me, as that gets, as chatter starts, the way I approach it is, you know, I have to be stronger. I have to be better. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm not one of those guys that, you know, that you can't, I don't know how some people are going to get up there to go like, I just block it all out and I don't read it and I don't hear it.

You're crazy. You hear it. You know what I'm saying? You're going to hear it when you get up in front of the media. You're going to hear it. You know, if you leave the building, if you have to go to a store to get something, you're going to hear that stuff. So, you know, rather than try to, you know, block it out, you listen to it and there's

a reason for it. I mean, when you're not winning games and you're not performing well and we're in a performance-based business, of course people are going to, you know, do it. So, you know, what you sit, you sit down with and you have to have, hey, listen, when you sit down at the end of the year or sometimes you have that opportunity, sometimes you don't. I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity to sit down and say, hey, listen, this is what I believe we have to do. This is the direction we need to take.

These are the things that we're going to do differently and I feel like this is going to make us a better football team. Okay. So, we should go to this debate, PFC. Remember when we had this debate about Doug Morone and you were sitting with your owner fighting for your job? Did you cry a little? No.

No, no. I thought you would be like, I'm crying for my guys in a good way, like, I love my guys so much. Well, you know, you can get into all these things like, you know, hey, it's easy for the players to do this and they still, they're still playing hard. I mean, I don't, I'm not, I'm not from that, you know, I think that everyone has a job to do and you should be able to do your job and, you know, if your focus is going to be taken away and all the stuff you go and, you know, at the end of the day, it's a decision

that I'm not, I'm not involved in. It's not, you know, I'm not the one that can control it, you know, but I can say, hey, this is what I believe, this is what I can do. And if you don't believe that I'm the right person, you know, for you, then, and you got to make, you know, a move, I understand it. I'm not one of those people, you know, that, you know, I know that if I don't win games, you know, eventually all of us, if all of us don't win games, no matter who you are, you're not going to be around for a long period of time.

So, and I never want people to ever say, gosh, that's an awful business. I feel bad. Well, it's a business that we've all chosen. Right. So, hey, bring it on. Whatever happens, happens. I'm ready for the challenge and I'm glad that I have another opportunity. I like that.

That was like the reverse of what we were speculating. You go in and you're just like, yeah, fire me. Like if you want to fire me, then that's on you. You can fire me. And so you're kind of almost putting them in a position where they're like, no, no, Doug, stick around, which I think I don't know. I mean, I think they listen. I mean, they might have a vision for how they want the team or they won't have a

vision for what changes are going to be made. You don't, you don't know that, you know? And you don't try to find out what that is because you've got to, you've got to say what's in your heart and what you believe because that's what you're going to do. A lot of times the worst thing, you know, it's like kind of when you interview a coach and he tells you, oh, I'm this, I'm this, I'm this. And then you hire him and then all of a sudden you're on the field and he's not that same with a player, but you have more research on a player.

That's the worst thing you can do. I tell people all the time. A lot of times when you interview for jobs, you know, you need, you need to tell them what you believe. Don't tell them what you think they want to hear. If you tell them what they want to hear and they hire you and then you start working and it's not what it is, you're not going to be successful. And it's, it's not fair to the players or the coaches that you're with.

So, you know, explain what you have and, and, and believe it. And if it's, if that's the direction that, you know, ownership wants to go with, then you are the perfect person for the job. If it's not, then you know what? You do need to move on because you're not going to be successful anyway. You're going to spend the entire rest of your tenure there chasing that interview, chasing what you told them in that interview. If you're not like forthright with them.

Yeah, absolutely. Totally. So it was it kind of a, I don't want to say blessing in disguise, but yeah, maybe a little bit of a blessing in disguise that those reports came out that it was, you know, you're going to be done after this year. You get to kind of rally the troops that week and you've got, you know, a little bit more like pep in your step. You're like, I'm going to show everybody that kind of thing.

Was there any of that going into the last week? I mean, it's, you know, when there are things that. Motivate, there is motivation. I'm not going to sit here and go, well, you know, like I said before, it's not like you don't listen to it. And you're like, you know, I've always, I, here's my relationship with, with shot. I know that if he was going to do something like that, he is, he is a really

great man. And I'm talking about just a good human being. He, he doesn't do, he doesn't do business like that. You know, so, so in my mind, I'm thinking, you know, he hasn't said anything. So there's no decision made. I had no issue with that, you know, but now there's speculation out there and it's getting, you know, there's momentum building. Okay.

Hey, you know what? Okay. Yeah. I'm going to, there is, I am a chip on the shoulder, you know, going against the world woes me, you know, I'm going to use all that motivation to get better. But that's me internally. I can't do that to the players and the coaches. Yeah.

You know, for them, I'm just like, Hey, listen, this is how this business is. Right now it's me. Sooner or later, it may be you, it may be you, maybe you, maybe you. I want you to watch how I handle this situation. So when it happens to anyone in this room, whether you're a declining player or a player that's not playing well, it's going to happen. So somewhere along the line of all this, let me be able to show you at least how you should handle it by my example.

And that's what I told the team. I like that. Okay. So how long does that meeting last? I imagine that you lock the door and you're like, I'm not, I'm not letting you out till, till we figured this out. And then you cried and then you're like, I love the team so much. I cry a movie, good book, but good cry.

This is a good cry. Cause when a football guy cries because he loves his players so much, that's like the pinnacle of football guy cry. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, I just think it's, it's just a presentation. Okay. Hey, listen, what are your plans? What are you going to do?

Lay it out on the table? I mean, I think there's so many, it's amazing when you're, I guess for me, and I guess it's somehow, how I look at your guys' lives. Like, I'm like, holy God, I must have an unbelievable life. But you guys grind and work, you know, we cry. I don't say that. Yeah. I'm about to cry right now.

Cause I love my guys. I love Bubba. Are we going to have like a, are we going to have a good grower? Yeah. Can we just hug real quick? Yeah. Come on. Let's do it.

I'll give you a hug. I'll give you a hug. Fuck it. Oh, let's go, let's go. You're gonna get fired. Yeah. Oh, that report is wrong. You guys, dead wrong.

Love you guys. I just wanted to get back to you. You're still here. You want this? I'm not fucking going anywhere. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. All right. Now we're good. Yeah. We got that out of the way. Yeah. By the time this review is over, we'll have, we'll have accepted you into thinking that you cry.

You're like, yeah, I cry a lot. All right. All right. So let's get to the important stuff. Yes. How much do you hate the Houston Astros? Oh, don't. Now, Doug, if you don't know, Coach Growne is a die hard

through Blue Yankee fan. So this happens in Houston, right? And I know that my Yankees got robbed. And there's probably a lot of other teams that got robbed. Right. I mean, it's out there. I mean, it's just killer. There's moments in the games, obviously, that I go back to

and think about the home run, the win it, the series with CC pitching. I mean, and it's bad. But then I go to, OK, none of the players, obviously, were punished, but a lot of the managers were, you know what I'm saying? So and I'm not saying anyone that has part of it or has to accept responsibility for it should accept consequences.

I don't care what sport it is or what you're doing. But I still go back to the Pete Rose. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know it was he wrong. Yes. But how's he not, you know what I'm saying, in the Hall of Fame? Right.

And then what happens? Are there asterisks to it? Is it the steroid error with his asterisks to those people? I mean, you know, I mean, Stanton said he would hit 80 home runs, you know, if he knew what pitch was coming. I believe him. You'd have to say healthy. I don't know if you saw.

He's already had it. Today, like literally an hour ago. Yeah. Really? Yeah. So he might not play opening day. He's also just embarrassed about striking out five. I know he has.

We know that for the year. I mean, Stanton, I don't know if you ever gave him your pin stripes, but that guy. Got win a championship to get pinstripes. You win a championship. Aaron Judge has pinstripes. Doesn't Aaron Judge have his pinstripes? Yeah.

But he didn't win a championship. Yeah, but he's going to take care of it. All right, all right, all right, I like that. I like that. He had big, yeah, big moments. Brett Gardner, pinstripes. No question. So you have to win.

In your mind, you have to win a World Series unless you're just really, really good. No, unless you're the, I'm saying it because I know he's going to win a championship. And you know what? For the question asked before, he should have won a championship. Yeah, and he should have. So when did that come in now?

When did that come in? Oh, he's on that team. He's stolen pinstripes. That's really the big pinstripe. Right. That's right. That's what the Astros have really been. Real signals, you stole pinstripes.

Altuve got MVP when it should have been judge. Yeah, another one. He's got double pinstripes. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that people have to, you know, they've lost focus on all the things that we've lost. Yeah, absolutely. What about Garrett Cole? I think he should get his pinstripes right away

because of that picture of him. And I think it was a 2001 World Series. He's a huge Yankee fan. The Yankee fan his whole life, always wanted to be a Yankee. Yeah, they were from upstate New York. Altuve moved to California. He's a stud. I think he gets his pinstripes like right now.

What do you think? I mean, he hasn't played a game. I know, but he's a Yankee fan his whole life. Well, I understand it. So am I, and I don't have my pinstripes. Oh, you got your pinstripes. Yeah, you got your fucking rocks, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, the difference between me, I always tell people, I was a born Yankee fan. Yeah, so you were. My grandfather worked there as an usher for 25 years. He came out of the womb with pinstripes, as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, well, I appreciate that. I have a bunch of jerseys from the pinstripe bowl.

Yes. You win a pinstripe bowl? Two. Winning his pinstripe bowl coach. Oh, is that? I don't know about that. I have two wins. I don't know who's won two.

Paul Chris might have two. I know who's got one. Wait, you have two? I think. Not in Yankee Stadium. I think we won back-to-back pinstripes, kind of a dynasty. Really? Yeah.

Well, you know what, if I had to share it with someone, I love that guy because he and I drink beer together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. We see that the owners mean it, not the owners mean it. Excuse me. The conference meeting. Yep.

You know, and he was a pit out of that Syracuse. And then we just kind of gravitated towards each other and were like, what are you doing? I don't know. Want to get a beer? All right, let's go get a beer. Yeah, you probably like. And then we were like in a corner drinking beer.

Yeah, you're like. Just watching everyone like, oh, you know, because the basketball coaches and everyone are like, oh, this, this, so-and-so. Yeah, yeah. Oh my god, this, so-and-so. And he and I would just. Yeah, you were probably like, hey, Paul.

No one really gives a crap about us. Yeah, Paul, I really like your gray sweatshirt. How about he's doing a great job at Wisconsin? Yes, he is. He's awesome. Yes, he is. That's great to see when you have a good guy. He's from there.

He's from there, but he's a good guy and he's doing a good job and that's what's awesome. I want to get into Minshu Mania real quick. You live through it. Where's your mustache? I absolutely can't grow one. I can't grow one either. OK, mustache pros.

I can't grow a mustache, but I still love Gardner-Minshu. When he was playing, when he got in that first game and you saw the Moxie, where you like, did you get excited too? Because I was watching it. I think I said he makes me want to shoot a flamethrower at a hornet's nest. Yeah, it's great.

I think when he got in there, I'm more of like, OK, wait a minute. This has got to be luck. I mean, that's the truth. Right. I'm like, this guy, he didn't take any snaps this week and Nick, unfortunately, gets hurt the 10th to 11th play the game and he goes in there. Now, he hasn't taken a snap with the game plan.

I would say he didn't perform that well in the pre-season for whatever reason, but he just didn't perform that well. And then all of a sudden, he gets out there and all of a sudden, you're like, where is this? OK, so you're excited at the moment. Then afterwards, when you reflect and look at it, you're like, all right, is this just like a one-time deal or what's going on?

And then we go and play Houston. And then when there's ups and downs in the beginning of the game, but then all of a sudden, the last two drives, he leaves us on scoring drives and almost comes back and wins the game for us. And then he hit a pretty good run. Then he hit some things of what you would normally see out of a young quarterback.

So we feel fortunate that we've got two quarterbacks and Josh Dobbs. We'll have competition at that position. But the one thing I'll say, and you guys can feel this too, is that just the people of Jacksonville, it's almost like a cult figure. It's a good culture fit. You came out of the womb with pinstripes on.

He came out with jorts, a little baby wearing tiny little Oshkosh braggots. Yeah, I'm not from the Bronx. I mean, yeah, it's not like I had a suit on, and then I came out with pinstripes. You know what I'm saying? I can never afford, not afford, but I was always in the plane. We didn't have a lot of grass in the Bronx.

So every sport we played was on concrete, whether it be football or whatever it was. So I always had rips and everything. So I was a big sweat pants guy. Oh, yes. Do you miss Blake at all? I do. I do.

I could tell you do. Yeah, I mean, no, I really do. I miss all the players. When you have a player that you have a good relationship with, and you have a ton of respect for, and it's a business decision, or it's a performance, or whatever it may be. Business, we'll say.

Yeah, and that play of leaves, you do truly miss those guys being around. It's the ones that show up late or a pain in the ass and things like that. And you're like, pfft, you can't wait for them to get out the door, saying you don't miss them at all. Maybe the show up on time. And Blake was a guy that did everything that we asked,

tried hard, took. He held his head up high, took bullets that he probably shouldn't have taken for others. And I'll always respect that. I really will. He's a good person. Oh, he's a great person. He's one of our favorite people, one of our favorite athletes

that we have on the show. I think he misses Jacksonville, too, to be perfectly honest with you. I think it's a great fit for him, if you guys ever want. I think Shod said that you have an embarrassment of riches at quarterback right now. But if you want to get any more embarrassment of riches, I think Blake would be a good person.

Oh, yeah. We can get him coming back, and we can get him in the pool with you guys. I will make the sickest I'm coming home video you've ever seen. Oh, my god. Yeah. Just saying.

I like it. Yeah, that's going to be. I got chills right now thinking about it. He's Hollywood now, though. He's got a Tesla. Yeah, he does have a Tesla. He can't do that. Well, maybe he's more green.

I mean, maybe he's becoming the environment now, which is good. He did it because he was trying to quit dipping. So he bought an electric car, so he didn't go to the gas station, so he wouldn't buy dip at the gas station. So now, yeah, someone else go to the gas station. Right. But it's a smart thought.

Now he just parts. Hey, good try. Yeah, don't bring like the sweets into the house, and you won't eat them. That's like the same with me. I've tried quitting all the time. Then all of a sudden, the stress comes, and it comes in. Now, that's what I say, but maybe an excuse,

but that's the truth. We have a sponsor you might be interested in, actually. Yeah, it's No Tobacco. Black Buffalo. I'll get you hooked up with it. It's like leaves. It's got nicotine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Really? And it kind of spits like the real stuff, but it's not tobacco. Are you sure you're not lacing it with this cannabis? No, a little bologna. A little bologna taste in it. Yeah. It's rolled up in an Oscar jar.

You guys, you guys have a problem dipping or anything? Yeah, I've been on that No Tobacco for the last few years. Really? Yeah. I'll hook you up with it. I'll hook you up with it again, a t-shirt. Can I get it? Yes, I have one in my bag over there.

Good, we'll open them up. Here it is. I love it. There you go. We've had you on it several times, but we haven't talked to you about Shakespeare yet. You're a big Shakespeare guy. No, no, no.

Yes, you are. Yeah, you are. You're being modest. No, when I was in high school, like all of us, we had English literature, and you had a Shakespeare. And my English teacher was my drama teacher. So everyone had to pick a soliloquy to do. So I picked Othello, and then I wound up doing it.

And then, but I enjoy that play. I don't enjoy all Shakespeare, but Othello, I really enjoyed. And for many reasons. And what happened was, so I was obviously, I did something in class, and then the drama teacher said, because I needed to get eligible for college. So I needed an A in my English lit, and I had drama, and she's like, hey,

if you come out to the play, maybe you'll be able to earn an A. And I'm like, OK. Back then, we didn't have a clearing house, but I'm thinking, OK, my GPA will be this. I'd only need this on the test court. I mean, I'm going, that's legit, seriously. So I went up there, and I did that in the first play I was in. I played Vince Fontaine in Greece.

I was the first play. I did some dancing and things like that. What did you sing? Not in the first one. Now, the second one, I went out for the lead, and I played Stephen Douglas in Dam Yankees. So I had the lead where I had a singing, and I had a, you know, there was more singing

in that one, not as much dancing. But it was tough, because they had to rewrite the music for my vocals. And a lot of the people that were in that drama club wound up doing stuff on Broadway, off Broadway. We had the girl that was with us a little bit younger than me. She was the lead in Tina and Tony's wedding, you know what I'm saying, that was on Broadway or off Broadway.

So it was pretty big. We'd get about 1,500 people a night that would come to it. So that's how it started. So what happened was she was such a good influence for me. My English teacher, Phyllis Preston, she's in the lives in Connecticut. So when every now and then, I would call her. Because I'm always one of those guys like,

I am where I am today because of a lot of the people that were in my life when I was younger. My teachers, my coaches, people that kept me from making poor decisions, even though I made some poor decisions. So what happened? I'd call her up, and she's like, hey, how's it going? And I'd throw the soliloquy out at her.

And then she would cry, you know what I'm saying? And she's like, I can't believe you remember that and all that. And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'm never going to forget it. Because you want to do a good job and you practice it. But I think so people have asked me stuff like that. And I've wound up repeating some of it. And then everyone thinks I'm this big desvian, which I probably I might think.

I don't know. Maybe it's undercover. No judgment. Wait, so do a little. Do you have a line or two? Yeah, touch me not so near. Yet I persuade myself to speak the truth. I'd rather this tongue cut from my throat

than do a fence to Michael Cascio. Yeah, stick up for your guy, Michael Cascio. Yeah. Stand up guy. So it sounds like your high school life was the plot of Glee. I've never seen this show, but I assume right now has a second worst graduation rate.

They almost shut it down. That's a good way to stop that. I was the first school that probably had a metal detector back in the 70s. We had to come one way in, one way out. The doors had guards. They had two Roman patrols. That's where I was fortunate.

We had a security guard and football coaches that let us in the back that kept us out of a lot of trouble. And I mean, you just keep your head down. I think the claim to fame for my high school obviously I went to Bobby Vanilla was old at me. And now Cardi B went to my high school. Oh, do you know her? Nice.

Do you know Cardi? No, but when I'm dying to meet her, because we have something in common. We went to her high school. Same. We'll be very funny together. Just hanging out. Yeah, I don't know.

Have you guys met her? No. It's my bucket list, really. Yeah, but she went to Lehman. She's got to be cool. She's got to be cool. It's like Jennifer Lopez was from Castle Hill. She went to Preston.

Yeah, Preston is on the East Bronx where I'm from. So that's like right down the road. So if you go to the Wikipedia page for your high school, it's like Doug Morone, Bobby Vanilla, Cardi B. That is... Does it? I don't know. I don't know.

You don't even need a fourth in that one. I don't know if... You know, you don't want me... I don't want a notable... First of all, we had a plaque in our gym. It said, like, distinguished graduates. It was blank. When I was there.

When I was going... Yeah, yeah. I still look up to it and go, I want the fellow to be on that plaque. That's a great... You should use that for the Jaguars next year. You should be like, you know, captain's blank. Earn it.

Or, you know, notable performances, blank. Earn it. Or just like 2020 captains and it's just a mirror. Yeah. So when the players walk by, they see themselves in there. That could be me. Seriously, that is... Yeah.

I'm not bullshitting you. That's a good thought. Yeah, yeah. But now there's so many people that hear this, if I do it. Can I just put courtesy of you on it? Yeah, yeah. I'm only licensing this idea to the Jaguars. Who do they got?

Who else do they got? And it's only $20,000 a year. Yeah. Who is it? Who is it? Okay, notable alumni, Bobby Benia, Doug Marrone, TJ Rivera, my friend, Deezus Nice, Cardi B, Monet Exchange, I think it's Money Exchange, Larry Lawton, the jewel thief. Larry and I grew up together.

You knew Larry Lawton, the jewel thief? No, no, no. We grew up together. I'm talking about we were friends growing up. No way. You ever like... Yeah, he called me because he called me up a while ago and wanted to come and speak to the team.

You know, he's all tatted up from prison and I'm always like, I don't know if this is a good... Could you tell Fugazi? Excuse me? Could you tell Fugazi? Fugazi? Tony Brasco. Tony Brasco.

I watched it the other day. Yeah, could you tell Fugazi? With Larry the jewel thief? No. Okay. I always say the guys I grew up with, Michael K is good friends with Larry. We all grew up together. Larry grew up together.

Larry's sister. I mean, family was awesome. I never saw it coming. Then I read his book because I had to read the book, you know, and then it's true. I mean, that's how it started. It started out with the little bedding sheets, you know, that he'd get and divvy out. We all did it. You know, you pick all the teams, you'd give him five bucks and see, but, you know, then

he went into the Coast Guard and then we kind of... Then I went to college and I kind of lost touch with everyone. Yeah. So is it true because I remember it was at the start of the season, got into a little sideline dust-up with Jalen Ramsey and our mutual friend, Diana Rossini, tweeted out that you could beat him up because you're from the Bronx and her family knows your family. Is it true that any family from the Bronx could beat up anybody because that's how we've been...

Including professional athletes. Yeah. We've been operating... Growing up, the thing was like, you know, like I grew up like a lot of kids, you know, like, you know, when I was a little kid, I got beat up and I went home crying. Crying again is a thing, right? I went home crying. And both my parents worked with my grandmother there and I said, oh, that kid's picking

on me. He beat me up. My grandmother just turned me around and said, you're going back out there and fighting and I was like, I don't want to go back there. I don't want to go. I went out, got my ass kicked again. You know what I'm saying? But it teaches you that, you know, you're never going to give up or that toughness.

But, you know, obviously we don't, you know, I think we're in a different day and age. We don't want to promote any type of violence, you know, in the locker room, on the field or whatever we do. But we may not win, but we definitely know enough people that can get you. Okay. Yeah. Your grandmother was like Don King just setting up fights. Yeah.

The neighborhood promoter. You two get out. Yeah. There you go. Get a great fight for everyone. I always say, you know, being from the Bronx is something that, hey, you know, if something ever happens and something gets kicked out on a technicality and court or something, you probably know enough people that can take care of it for you.

Yep. All right. I got one last question. Seek each question, promo code take, put it in, you get $10 off, go to the Jags game next year. Go to the game in London. You got two games in London. We're at the combine.

What is your favorite question to ask guys when you get to sit with them? Or what does it go to? For me, it's who's been, you know, out before college, who influenced you in football. And I think it's important. So for me, I want to know whether it's been either from family or other people or, you know, what has, what was the origin of how this player got involved with football? I want to know the, I want to know the genesis of how it all started for him. Okay.

I think for me, because it helps me later on that, you know, if it's a relationship with a coach or something from the family, it's something for me to fall back on, you know, when, you know, you start doubting, you know, whether, you know, or starting to become too much of a business. I try to remind them of, you know, the origin of why they started it and how they love. So I try to use that, you know, throughout my time with that player. And I also share, not with the players that asked that question, but I do share that with the team quite a bit.

What if the answer is like, I just wanted to get laid? No, I don't think that. I think it's like, I can tell you my story. I always wanted to play baseball and I was just too big and fat to be on a bunch of football teams. So then all of a sudden you get to a point where in high school, like it doesn't matter how fat and big you are, you can play football. And then, you know, I just happened to be better in football and I was in baseball.

Yeah. If I had my choice, I would have played baseball. I feel like a lot of people of your size in high school, you hear it from everyone just like, Hey, why don't you play football? If you're not actually on the football team, like literally everybody in your life is like, why don't you football player? Like David Baker, the pro football hall fame president. He was a big dude.

He was too big to play football. Yeah. When he was younger. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of us. Yeah.

Yeah. I started playing football to get laid, but I was a kicker, so it kind of backfired on me. You see, here, I can tell you this, like, you know, when you're a lineman and you're fat, nothing happened to guys like me. Right. You guys are thinking like, you know, the quarterback. Right.

You know what I'm saying? You got to, like, you know, I think, I think, you know, the people now, I think, you know, I think the hockey players got a good role going. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you look it, right? Nice. The hockey players.

Yeah. Up in like the Syracuse area, upstate New York, if you're the captain of the hockey team, it is like the equivalent of being the quarterback. And they're all like regular dudes who are kind of on a suit and be you. Yeah. Hockey players can, even guys in the NHL, they can go to dinner and not be bothered most places. I mean, you look at most of the country music stars, right?

Because they were the big cats. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. What do you think? You think you changed now? No. You think you should have played hockey?

No, absolutely not. You would have been a hell of a hockey player. I got very bad equilibrium. Bad balance. I'm going to clumsy you. I can't even walk without falling down. Really? Yeah.

It was a really good rollerblader. No big deal. I was a really good rollerblader. Yeah. That's pretty sick. Sick rollerblader. That's pretty good. Like that gold member?

Were you a part of that? No, I was just sick at rollerblading. I wasn't good at ice skating, but I was a really good rollerblader. Yeah. It would be like seven feet if I had like, you know, roller skates. I might get back into blading now. You get that extra like four inches from the bottom of the skate. Yeah, exactly.

You got to be careful. You don't want people like, you know, Adam Sandler throwing sticks at you when you're rolling. Yeah. True. It's good. So it is a combine, as Big Cat said, you're doing these interviews. When we sat down with you in Jacksonville, we asked you, how can you tell if there is

a presence of grit on the practice field? You said that you can hear it in training camp. How do you tell if a prospect has grit if you're not able to like hear him running to people? Sure. Sure. I think that's like one of the questions was like, you know, when you go to these all-star games, you that's why it's good to be on the field because you can kind of hear that

or feel that, you know, power, you're not, you're not going to be able to do that when you're watching film, right? Mm-hmm. When you're watching these players when they perform. So what I always look for is, you know, are they finishing the play? You know, the, that echo of the whistle where, you know, is he smart enough to know when not to draw a penalty, you know what I'm saying? And you know what?

If it's a certain type of penalty, I don't hold that against players. I remember, I'll give you an example, Jari Evans, who I had in New Orleans, who was a great player, you know, he went to Bloomberg, you know, and one of the things that was so impressive that he finished every single play and he just wanted to put his guy on the ground. I mean, and you can see it and that's what he strived for. Did he do it all time? No, of course not. But that's what he always wanted to do and that he carried that same type of mentality

over into the league and was very successful. Those players to me that have that type of mentality, a finished type of mentality that you see that extra effort or that echo to the whistle, I think that, that helps carry over into the grit part of the physical part of it. Love it. Okay. I like that answer. The echo of the Ian whistle.

Yes. Ian whistle. All right. Well, coach, thank you very much for joining us. As always. Also, I'm happy that you have your job still. I appreciate it. A lot of people have said that.

That's kind of annoying. Why? I don't know. You're walking around like, hey, I'm glad that you're back. I'm glad that you're back. I wish you weren't just fired. I'm glad that you're back. I'm actually starting with the hashtag, fire dog, we're on.

I know. I mean, I'm glad. I was on the other day and I say to myself, I'm like, you know, I'm getting tired of this shit. Well, you were dead. You were dead. That report. You were dead.

According to, I was, I didn't feel that way. Right. I'm as alive as ever. Right. But we're happy. We're very happy. We're happy to see you. We're happy to see you.

We're not happy that you still have a job. Yeah. Wait. Do you want to be happy that you had a job? Okay. We're crying now. We're all crying together. I hope you get fired soon.

Okay. Yeah. I hope. Yeah. I hope you don't even make it through the next season. All right. I know. That's a good one.

No, seriously. I do like that idea. Okay. Let's get some segments. First up, we have coronavirus updates. It's bad. And now it's affecting sports. No, it's not bad.

It's not bad. It's not bad. It's a bitch little disease. Fraud. I still, I agree, Hank. We called it out as being a fraud, being overrated last week. I'm not, I'm not changing that up just because it's won a couple, it's, you know, won a couple out of conference games, not in prime time yet.

I'm not convinced about this corona thing. I'll take coronavirus to the face right now. I smoked a little weed this weekend and was like reading up on it. Got really scared. Thought the whole world was going to end with full, a full believer in the coronavirus. And then basically I've been following it the last three days and the global death toll has just remained the same. More of us.

Yeah. It's nothing. So it's, it's war. We are now worried. Viruses. It's WAV is like 0.001. We are, we are worried though about sports, right? There's people saying they're, it's like one of those things where like the masters, well

the masters are like the, we're having conversations, but conversations, they have to like get ready for it. But if there's so much money involved, that would be stunned. Well, there is the number one dealer in hysteria. That's true. Both viruses and Eli Manning. Leroy knows what gets clicks. Okay.

And that's death and Manning's. And in this case, every league is taking precautions right now. Like we've had conversations about what's the office, what will happen to the office if coronavirus happens. That doesn't mean we think it's going to happen, but. So they are considering, the NCAA tournament is definitely considering playing the games in front of no fans and just media members, which would be hilarious. It would ruin it.

Just have the media and, well, it'd be much better than having no tournament at all. Yeah. That's true. But are you reporting, is Leroy reporting that? He's reporting that it's under consideration. Everything is being taken. Don't have him report bad news that bums us out. Well, he said he takes no pleasure in reporting.

That's, I mean, that's like. His tail was not wagging when he smashed that. That's really bad. He can't have that. He was whining. He was like, hmm, that can't happen. Yeah. It's bad.

So it definitely won't happen. I'm saying, I'm saying it won't happen, but it would be pretty hilarious if there were no fans and just, no, that would not be hilarious. That would be terrible. There should be one fan. That's not, that's not hilarious. That would suck. It should just be Bill Murray in the audience.

Sucks so, so bad. So, so bad. That can't happen. Cannot happen. There's somebody in the office right now that's sick. I'm not going to name names. Cannot happen. But somebody's very sick.

You're addicted to Corona. In this office right now. You are addicted to Corona virus. Hank brought it up. You'd brought it up right when you came in today. You're like, hey, you hear about. You literally just brought it up. Yeah.

You just brought it up. And then you also came in today. You're like, hey, hear about Nate. He's got Corona. Yeah. You're addicted to Corona virus. I'd like people to take precautions. Yeah.

I thought it was a, the, the glee on your face was not precautionary. Oh, I had no glee on my face. You were like, yeah, you hear about that? No, I was just making sure that everybody stayed safe. And now you're going to cancel the NCAA tournament. I'm not canceling anything. Personally, or you just said you wanted to cancel it. I'm reporting conversations that already have occurred amongst the NCAA.

Because if there's one thing that if there's one thing the NCAA hates more than not paying people, it's being able to get sued later on. Using themselves to legal liability. I would sue them. Yeah. Class action lawsuit. The fuck out of that. Why don't we just start saying that we're going to sue the NCAA if they do cancel the

term. Rob me of enjoyment. Yeah. That's that. Absolutely. I will absolutely be in a class action lawsuit. The most dangerous part of the Corona virus is not the illness. It's what it's doing to people's brains, making them afraid of the illness and making them

do stuff like cancel our best reason to skip work right the entire year. Right. Right. Although I do respect it. I don't. Because I don't want, I don't want it to be, you got to respect it otherwise it's going to walk all over you. I don't respect things.

They don't respect me. Okay. We have a spin zone, all time spin zone, throwback spin zone. Bill Clinton said today, or maybe it was yesterday, that he received oral sex in the White House because it was managing his anxiety. Yeah. Well, he doesn't inhale when he smokes. So he's got to figure out a way to get his rocks off somehow.

I like that Bill Clinton is like, wait, he like took a, he walked outside, you know, in 2020, took a look around and was like, mental, mental health is, is kind of buzzing right now. Like guys can talk about this. He saw Tyson cry and he's like, you know what, yeah, I got sucked off because I was anxious. Mm hmm. That's it.

Listen, he missed the boat on the whole sex addiction thing. Yeah. But what can you say? You can't be like, well, that's bullshit. And be like, oh, I'm sorry, can guys not talk about their feelings now? Yeah, that's true. But Bill Clinton just should have come out like 10 years ago and been like, I was horny as hell.

Yeah. Listen, I was a horny guy. Well, I mean, that goes without saying. Yeah. Just look at him and you're like, all right, that's a horny guy. No excuses. I was horny. He's also getting that weird thing that happens with older people where he's like losing

weight, but his head is still the same size. So he looks like a bobblehead now. Well, he went vegan. Oh. Yeah. So he's not going to be able to recover from injury as quickly anymore. Jesus Christ. But he, yeah, he went vegan, lost a lot of weight.

He's got the whole pendulum thing going on with his body. It's so weird when that happens, when it's like their body just goes away is like, that's just old age. Yeah. You just got a fucking big head sitting on a tiny neck. It looks like the, uh, the Crip Keeper's dick. Yeah. Fuck.

He could get sucked off for the anxiety. Uh, we have a, he also said about Monica, he said, uh, over the years I've watched her trying to get a normal life back again, but you've got to define, you've got to decide how to define normal. So he's, he's issuing like a non-apology apology to a woman whose life he ruined. The least you could do Bill is be like, Hey, Monica Lewinsky, great therapist. She really helped me with my anxiety. Right.

I didn't feel anxious for about 30 minutes after Monica and I would have our sessions. Um, all right. We have a dramatic reading of LeBron James caption. So who do you, who, which one do you want to take? The LeBron or the LeBron? I can be LeBron. All right. You be LeBron, I'll be LeBron.

Okay. This is his caption of him hitting that three point shot against the pelicans. Me. I bet you won't. Me. Man. Who are you talking to? Me.

I'm talking to you. Parentheses. I bet you won't. In parentheses. Me. Man. You must not know me well. Scenes.

So that was what went through LeBron James's head right before he buried that three. He doesn't know himself. He doesn't. Damn. It sounds like he's schizophrenic. Is that a symptom of alcoholism? That's a symptom for Macron, James gang, the man in the arena, washed king, revenge season. He is schizophrenic.

He doesn't have split personalities when he's on offense. He tries and then he's on defense. He doesn't. I love the internet too. Cause the first response is curry inspired you to shoot that far hundred. How many times a dame and Steph Curry do that to you just saying, what's the celebration about? That's fucking great.

I do like what happens to LeBron's brain when he sees Zion on the court. Yes. Like he gets in playoff mode a little bit. He's like, it's young buck. He's got defendants. Yeah. Right. Right.

Two big, two big young bucks. All right. Let's finish up. We have FAQs to finish up your Friday conference tournament week next week. By the way, little, little PSA for everyone there this weekend, senior night, senior day everywhere. Load up. The very of the, of the five, uh, 10 white kid coming in and just jacking threes when

your team's up 15 for sport point spreads. That actually happened. Wisconsin did it last night. They brought in a dude and he's, that's like everybody on Wisconsin's team. Yeah. But he was a little bit shorter and nine and a half white guy. He, they were up 13 and no reason to shoot and he had a layup and they covered the spread. Love it.

Wasn't there also a mascot that just passed away? No. Bout Laird changed the guards. Yeah. Blue is now blue three or something. Uh, be you, be used to your life, to your mascot, Rhett passed away. Unfortunately, we are spoken for in that conference. So catamounts.

I'm just saying very cool. Rhett RIP. No catamounts. Very cool. He had a heart condition. Catamounts. I think that just means he was old. Very cool.

Catamounts. I have Stella and Leroy ever met. Yes. We've answered this before. Would she be considered one of his many unnamed sources? She does talk a lot. Yeah. I don't think that Stella would share any information with Leroy though.

Stella is a Stella. Stella looks out for number one. Stella is a, Stella is a bad ass bitch. She looks down on the, the potentially fake news reporting. She doesn't like news in general. She makes the news. What are, so you are a girl dad with Stella. Yeah.

Hashtag girl dad. That's me. Cool. What are Stella and Leroy's favorite treats? Good question. I take a peanut butter. And then you unzip. Then I put it on her nose and she licks it off.

It's very cute. It's cute. It's very cute. Leroy likes the corner deli lady because whenever she sees him she just gives him meat. And now she like works only one day a week but every time we walk past that goddamn deli Leroy just puke. Oh yeah. Dogs know.

And I, I can't make a move. He's too big to, to drag along. Cold fish and pirate's booty. Cold fish for the crunch. What's up guys? Especially wide dog. PFT. How many dresses did you look at before you found one that fit your figure so well and

did anyone end up coming up to you from behind at the wedding thinking you were a girl? There were, there were three dresses that were all brought there by the bridesmaids so I didn't actually go dress shopping. I forgot to do that until the morning of. So they just gave me the dresses. I tried them on and I wanted, I wanted mostly Dana and Cara to give me the nod of approval because it was their day. Right.

But what I did find with the dress is that I got a lot of attention from the opposite sex. Nice. Way more than I normally would. So that's kind of like a life hack right there is if you. Is it? Yeah. I mean.

Dress and dresses all the time? No. Occasionally. Occasionally. Once in a while. Yeah. For fun. For fun.

When someone dares you to do it. Right. Dad cat, out of all the recurring guests, who would you ask to be small cat's godparent? Do you think they would actually be willing? Oh. Mark Cuban. He's the richest. Smart.

Yeah. So if anything happens to you, you know. Mm-hmm. Maybe Blake Bortles. I feel like he would be, Jarrod Goff actually would be a good, would be good, like responsible. Jarrod's like the more responsible Blake. You're just naming the richest people that we have. Well, I mean there's been a lot of rich people.

All right. So you want me to name someone. Gary Busey. Or Gary, nope. No. Not Gary Busey. Why not? Absolutely not Gary Busey.

Maybe Bill Walton. Just let him fucking become a dead head. Why not? All right. I've been wondering what's the social etiquette with handicapped bathroom stalls and what situation is or isn't it the fair game? I've always lived to the mindset that like just go for it. If you're going to be quick.

If it's not a full bathroom, might as well use it. Yeah, I don't. It's, I mean if you're just holding up the handicapped bathroom, you can't use a handicapped bathroom at a sporting event. Well, there's a difference. The handicapped stall, I feel like is different than like the ones that are just a solo handicapped bathroom. Don't ever go in those.

But if there's a handicapped stall in the regular bathroom, that's fair game. Agreed. All right. Well, end with this one. What's up, Why Dog and Mr. 35 Years of Age? Wow. Oh, that was a plot twist. I'm a 26 year old man and I recently discovered my phenomenal ski ball abilities.

I found out because I went to my nephew's birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese and I'm officially addicted to the point where I spend my Friday nights doing so. Do you have any advice to knock this bizarre hobby? I need to save money and gamble, not play ski ball. Uh, yeah, I would find a girlfriend. I would just keep being awesome at ski ball. That's sick that you found something that you're awesome at. Ski ball doesn't give you enough tickets though.

What do you mean? That's true. Here's what you need to do. If you're awesome at it, maybe you will. Okay, so fair enough, but at Chuck E. Cheese, they don't give you as many tickets as they would at Busters. You gotta go to Busters. So you gotta upgrade.

You gotta upgrade your entire system to Busters, go there, then they pay you like a king with all the tickets that you're gonna get and you're gonna be able to get like three tech deck skateboards instead of just two at the end of the day. And girls love Busters. All girls love Busters. That's just a fact. Always an awesome ratio at Busters. Yeah.

All right, that's our show Monday. Who are we gonna run? Let's talk about it right now. I like the interview that we did today actually. Today we interviewed Craig Barubi, the head coach of the St. Louis Blues. We have Damon John, too, which was a great interview. We should get... Mike Vrable, interesting.

We got a lot of choices. We should get like a dockage or a Mark Titus if he can watch his mouth on this episode. Mark Titus is not... I was talking to Mark Titus last night. He was going to come in for the Big East Tournament coronavirus, can't travel. He got it? No. Oh.

Yeah, report that. Mark Titus, questionable. We will report that. Coronavirus. Cut that right there. Yes, yes. Mark Titus, coronavirus. Love you guys.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.