Pardon My Take - Khalil Mack, Head Strength Coach Ben Herbert, Mt Rushmore Of Movie Quotes + Same Faces New Places In The NFL

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

Injuries at training camp suck (00:00:00-00:26:54). We talk some LLWS and then play same faces new places in the NFL to get us sharp for the season (00:26:54-00:39:07). Mt Rushmore of Movie Quotes and Hank tells us what he expects for his lighting of the lighthouse (00:39:07-01:06:29). Future Hall of Famer Khalil Mack joins the show to talk football, Chargers, Big Cat’s love for him and what happened on Halloween a few years ago(01:06:29-01:37:08). Executive director of player performance Ben Herbert joins the show to try to make us hard, talks strength training, philosophies on life and more (01:37:08-02:17:34). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:17:34-02:32:59).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a two for the people, two great interviews. We have Khalil Mack from the Los Angeles Chargers and then we have Ben Herbert, the strength and conditioning coach for the Chargers, who is probably one of the most intense guests we've ever had on. I'm in love with him because he makes me want to be a better person. He made us hard. He made us hard. He's the famous... We played the clip when he was introduced. His goal

is to make the Chargers harder to break. So awesome interview with both them. We're going to do new faces, new places, same faces, new places. I always mix that up. Guys who are on different teams this year. Yes. We're resetting for the start of the season. Yes. We're going to get ourselves set for that. We're going to talk a little trades and injuries. Unfortunately, we are going to do Fire Fest and we have the Mount Rushmore of movie quotes. It's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Throw another shrimp on the barbie.

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It sucks. We've got injuries. This is the worst time of training camp. JJ McCarthy is out for the season. Jordan Addison maybe out for a while. It's tough. It's really tough. I'm, I'm upset for the Vikings fans out there. You, you had a lot to look forward to, especially after week one of the preseason, everything looked great. I guess the good news is that Sam Darnold no longer has mononucleosis.

Yeah. Seven year bump. I posed this question. I got ratioed to hell. I posed this question when J.J. McCarthy was announced out for the year. Am I crazy for thinking Sam Darnold might have a good year? Now that, I posed the question before Jordan Addison got hurt, but my whole thinking was he's going to have the best receivers he's ever had. Seventh year bump. Yeah. No mono. Kevin O'Connell, good coach, played quarterback. Kevin O'Connell got good stuff out of Josh Dobbs last year. Yeah. I mean, he's a quarterback friendly coach. Sam Darnold, just remember like Sam Darnold did. He did play the quarterback position with the greatest

handicap of all time. And that's Adam Gaines. Yeah. So yes, he had to get the stink of the jets off him. He's been around smart football guys for the last year. Yeah. He went to San Francisco, did some rehab there. His grandfather's name is Dick hammer. Yep, so that you got that going for you. I just that's the ultimate Thor for all the Vikings fans out there Yeah, this this might be crazy to me. I this might be the dumbest thing I've thought but I kind of feel like it I don't want the Vikings to be good But I kind of feel like Sam Darnold might surprise some people this year And I think his head is gonna look normal size in that helmet. Yes.

In the purple. It's going to look good. Agreed. Yeah. It could be worse. I think they're doing the right thing. Oh, it definitely could be worse. You want to do the, yeah, you could have absolutely no plan

at backup quarterback, which at times it looked like you had no plan at backup last year. Yes. I think he's probably. For Josh Dobbs? Yeah, Josh Dobbs is good for like a couple weeks. Whenever he changed the team, he was good for that first couple weeks. Yeah. Just Dobbs is good for like a couple of weeks whenever he changed the team. He was good for that first

couple of weeks. Yeah, just bring him in. Just bring him in for one week. Yeah, he'll probably be on on same faces new places who Josh Dobbs. Yeah, is he in the league? I think he's in the league. Yeah, I think he's on a roster.

We're gonna do that in a second. He's got to be on a roster, but yeah, it could be worse. It's the right call. I think to do the long-term meniscus surgery rookie quarterback. Yeah, no, it's absolutely don't want to write. You don't want to rush him back from there at all. They're not in win now mode. call I think to do the long term meniscus surgery, a rookie quarterback. Yeah, no, it's absolutely the right call.

You don't want to rush them back from this at all. They're not in win now mode. It makes no sense to rush them back. A team that I guess is in win now mode is the Atlanta Falcons who traded for Matthew Judon. They're all in. They're all in. Hank is not here right now.

He's going to be here for the Mount Rushmore. He is though, we're taping this part of the show obviously on Thursday. We taped the Mount Rushmore on Wednesday. Hank is, if you're listening to this, it's already happened. He's led the New England Patriots out on the field via lighting the lighthouse via ringing a bell. He rang a bell. It's like a Rube Goldberg machine. You ring the bell the bell and then the bell lights the light or maybe the lights already lit Yeah He's ringing the bell to symbolize to commemorate the lighting of the light in the lighthouse and then the team is gonna run out onto The field and Hank's gonna have a little shit eating great on his face. I'm happy for him. He loves that fucking lighthouse

It's gonna be great. But the last so the last time we talked to Hank he said that Matthew Judon was having, was it friendly? And what were the two words? Maybe friendly and good? Friendly, good, normal conversation. Conversations with head coach Mayo. It turns out, and he also took a side swipe at memes

and was like, Patriots are classy organization, we'll figure this out, the Jets won't. And then maybe like two hours later, Matthew Judon got traded. Yeah. Do we know what they got in return for? A third round pick. Third round pick. Which? Fleeced. Well, I mean, Matthew Judon is a very good player. He's also 32 and he needs a new contract.

So that would be the part where it's, you know, the third round pick, because it always happens whenever a player that you know gets traded and you're like, that know, the third round pick, because it always happens whenever a player that you know gets traded and you're like, that's it, third round pick? It's like, oh well, yeah, he needs a brand new contract. He's gonna get paid. He's gonna get paid. And you're right. Although the Falcons, I heard, like, there isn't a plan

to give him a new contract. To extend him right away? They actually did the opposite of the Jets. The Falcons might be the classiest organization of the three. They did not trade for him with any pretenses of a new contract. So he's going to go there, but what if he just wants a new contract? I'm sure he does want a new contract. That's why he wanted to trade. But he'd rather play out his contract with a team that's not going to give him a new

contract and is upfront about it than with the Patriots. Yeah, it seems like people don't want to be on the Patriots. Yeah, so it's weird. Also, it goes against everything I've ever known about the Atlanta Falcons, which is they've been committed for as long as I can remember to not having any players that I can name on their defense. Yeah. And now they've got a couple really good players on their defense. Yeah. And I don't know, the Falcons, maybe I was a year ahead on the Falcons.

Maybe this is the year that the Falcons tie it all together. I think it's just going to be a lot of teams in the NFC South that are going to be nine and eight, 10 and seven, and then the Panthers. Yeah, probably. It's going to go exactly like last year where it's going to be the three way between the Falcons, the Saints, and the Bucs. And it's like whoever just ends up winning a couple of these head to heads will go to the playoffs. I'm going to look at these odds real quick. See what the odds are for the Falcons to win that division because I like them this year.

They're probably not that high just because there's no dominant team. I have already said that the Saints might not be as bad as people think. But memes, I did want to ask you real quick, because you got the side swipe. How are you feeling today knowing that you are at least partially vindicated even though Hassan Reddick is still holding out and the Jets are still not figuring this situation out? Hank being immediately wrong was delicious. Delicious.

Oh, good word. Good word. Does it take some of the sting out of your Jets? I take some of the sting out of your jets? I take some of the sting out I still want them to resolve it Quickly then it's a massive W for me Yeah Then if they if they get his son reddick signed within the next like 48 hours

Then you you get a huge dub, but if it takes if it goes into the season It's or if he doesn't play and you trade him for something less than what you traded him for then you're back to a loss Yeah, that's a major loss because Hank was technically right. They did figure it out So yeah, they did figure out Matthew judon pretty quickly was productive and good normal good yeah, I think was good and happy or something good and happy because I friends friendly and It's friendly and something now. Yeah means what if if you traded Hasan Reddick to the Patriots? That'd be so bad. But what if Hasan Reddick then, memes,

what if you traded him to the Patriots, then Hasan Reddick said, I'm not going to play for the Patriots? Then that'd be a massive W. But then, OK, but then what if the Eagles traded the Patriots to get Hasan Reddick back, and they got more than what you paid for? That'd be a loss.

But the Eagles season's already over, because apparently Jalen Hurst is throwing too many touchdown passes and not enough interceptions in training camp. Is that right, Max? Oh, yeah. Nick Wright is my Florio. Oh, nice.

A new Florio has presented himself. So the problem is that what he's he's too good because I know they always say you learn more from mistakes than you do from success. So he's he's not throwing enough interceptions to learn anything. Yes. They said that that's such a good take. Well, number one percent of his passes. Number one. He just kept saying he's like, I know this is going to get aggregated. I know this is going to get so he's doing it. You're aggregating that's not what it sounds like. But yeah, that's that's he's he this is going to get aggregated. I know this is going to get so he's doing it. You're aggregating. That's not what I know. It sounds like. But yeah, that's, that's,

he's, he's doing it to get clicks and he's admitting that he's doing it to get clicks because he knows that sounds. Yeah, you should never admit sounds ridiculous. He sounds ridiculous saying that he's not throwing enough. He's not watching any of the camp. How do you know that Nick? Right? He's a smart guy. He watches the tape. There is no tape. How do you know that Nick right? He's a smart guy. He watches tape There is no tape. What do you mean? There's no why we don't think he's got tape How many times have we gone to camp and there's tape being filmed? But you're not but like so that's for the team, but maybe he has access maybe his access He doesn't have access right has all 22 access. He's just saying that he's not taking enough risks

He's been how the fuck is he supposed to know that it is a great, he's like, it's not taking enough risk. You got to throw some picks in training camps. Such a good thing. I'm pretty sure I had this exact same take ironically about Nick Foles when he threw two interceptions. I was like, this season actually sucks. Yeah. You got to, I mean, you gotta, I do, you do want guys taking risks. Like Rogers at the end of his career with the Packers There was the argument that he was Obsessed with not throwing interceptions that he would not take some risks But even then you're watching it like he was watching every play. You don't know that he wasn't watching

He's there's no way he's watching what about a pick on third down if you throw it deep down the field same as a punt That's a good pick. Sure. Okay. Let's talk about the positive. Word out of the Eagles campus, Big Dom is just running the whole show now. Rox, he's the best. He's the coach of the team. Yeah. No, no. We had a problem last year of someone being the guy that everyone can look up to. We got that guy. It's Big Dom. yeah max I love big Dom don't get me wrong. Love the guy is it. I don't like the way. I'm just curious Yeah, I don't either be careful. I'm at I'm asking a question. Okay, but be careful. I'm asking

This is what we do to learn we ask careful how you ask it's called the Socratic method, okay Just ask careful is now you're saying things that I don't know. Is it a good thing? Don't confuse. It's all Greek to Max. Max, is it a good thing? Greeks are just Italians who don't pay taxes. Max, fact. Is it a good thing? Would it be a good thing for your head of security

to be coaching your football team? Yeah, I think so. If the head of security is big Don. OK, that's all I want to know. That's all I want to know. Did you guys see, by the way, when Fantasy Fuckboys comes back, we had the lineup for the Staten Island Little League World Series team that's in Williamsport. I'll just give you a couple of the names. It's great. It's just Fantasy Fuckboys Central. Batting first

is Vin Ruggerio. How do you say that? Ruggerio Rogerio. Uh, second is Steven Grip. Oh, uh, Peter Giacchio. Stevie grips is, is the catcher. Uh, we also have on the team Dean's scared scaring Jello. Okay. Uh, Joe Arachi, Dylan D, uh, DeGotta and Dylan the cat, Jason, uh, Roke Rokeo. I can't even say I can't speak Italian Max you Give me some Italian help here Ro CC I have to look at the IO. Let me look at it. Rocio Rocio Rocio. Yeah D Roach Let me I don't write Jason Rocio Jay Roach. No You're saying it wrong. Dylan de gada is my favorite. Yeah, I like that. That's good. It's a good name

But yeah, there's a lot a lot of vows I'll be careful big fat the little league world series and saying fuck boys Just saying I was your brain went there that not not anyone else we went that's fucked up through it I was your brain is there really world series people don't talk about that enough. I think we talk about max you were in it Some AWL found the game that I played it and put the whole thing on YouTube Love that you know what I love about the little league world series I love the fact that it's it's for the kids and they get the best umpires and they they do it the right way at Williamsport yeah, I don't see that a lot agreed

And it's something if it's awesome we can all get behind if you're someone who just spends all day Online yelling about the kids and the umpires maybe get a life. Yeah. Get a life. Although the one thing I never like about it though is the one coach that knows that he's doing something to go viral. Yeah. He knows that he's Mike.

Yeah. They lose and then he brings them all and he's like, listen, look around. You guys are going to love that. You guys are going to think back to this moment for the rest of your lives. Like, no, they lost. They're out. No, I actually love that Rico just gets so fired up about literally World Series and the umpires yeah and the

system in the system but yeah that was good what before we do this game what else do we have anything else we're talking about quarterbacks being too good in practice Jaden Daniels through five touchdowns in a row that's pretty good but maybe too good it might be too good yeah it might be too he needs to learn how to throw better end zone interceptions. Yeah. Um, we had Oh, there was one other thing. Oh, Jamis mic'd up was incredible. Jamis mic'd up is really good. I just love the entire thing. Just say him going up to his teammates and being like I'm in your establishment. Now. Yeah, that was great. The US men's national team. We got our guy. Yeah. Pocotino. Yeah, his name is Pocotino. He's Argentinian. He coached for Chelsea. Coached for Tottenham. I think he got them to like the Champions League final or some **** like that. Really, he's won a lot. Uh he's won. Yeah, he's won some. Where? I think he came in like second place in the EPL. Uh he he did win a he did win

the uh French League with PSG. Oh. The Farmers League. When when he had. He he he beat a bunch of uber eats delivery guys with Neymar and Mapa and messy. Yeah. Okay, so he has one I assumed that since he was he was Pulisic ish coach when he was at Chelsea I'm assuming that they asked Pulisic what he thought about the coach and then Pulisic said he's a good guy Then they brought him in which might not be the best thing because we got to make our guys tougher.

Well, apparently- He's beat up all the time. I read up a little bit about this guy and he coaches using the theory of energia universal. Okay. Which means universal energy. Love it. Max, did you get that?

Universal energy, which is basically, he coaches on vibes. He thinks that every player either has good vibes or bad vibes. Hank would not last on this team. He would not. And he just he has like this theory that it's all connected. It's all one song. I like that.

So it's a very it's a very different coach than what we had in the past. People were telling me last night that we're going to score goals and we're going to give up goals. And that's all I care about. If I can bet the over while watching the US men's national team and win, I don't give a fuck what ends up happening. We could lose every game if there's five goals. He plays, I think his formation is some like four, two, three, three. I don't know. That probably doesn't add up to 12 or to 11, but I know that he plays a very aggressive style.

So let me ask you this question, P.F.D. Yeah. As our foremost soccer, international soccer guy, would you say this was a home run higher? Because I... In soccer terms? I feel like people were very upset, or very excited, like, we got him. This is incredible.

We never thought we'd get a guy like this. In soccer terms, it's a grand slam. Okay, it's a grand slam. It's a touchdown. So I just wanted on the record, if this is a grand slam touchdown of a higher, and we don't get good at soccer, yep. Could you make the argument? Our players are not good. Yes. Okay, yeah, now I'm excited. That's what I've

been saying this entire time. This entire time. And we there have been times in the past when we've had shitty players. I will give you that 100%. There have been times when we've had decent players. Now we have what should be the best players we've ever had. Which is not a huge, it doesn't mean they're good. They're good. Relatively speaking, I'm saying like in the world, they're still not good.

Well, they play on the best teams in the world. Meaningful minutes? Many of them. Many of them. That's what I'm trying to tell a lot of them. There's like four or five guys that play significant minutes on really good teams. There's a lot of guys that are on good teams that

don't play at all. And then there's a couple other guys that are still up and coming. But what I'm saying is, yes, in the past, you've been 100% right. US soccer has never been anywhere close to the top talent in the world. Now, I wouldn't say that they're in the top five talent in the world. I'd probably say top 10 in terms of talent rosters.

Okay, I'm just excited for the test. I'm excited for the test. And now that that shithead Greg is out of the picture and he's not too busy getting in pissing matches with his players' dads to it forth a good, a good lineup. I think, I think it's safe to say that this will be a big disappointment if we don't, I, I think disappointment would be losing in the knockout round. I think that we need to win at least one knockout round game. I think we should get to the quarterfinals. So I'm just excited for the test now because, uh, we'll find out if this is a home run grand slam higher, we can't blame the home run grand slam higher. We can't blame it on the coach.

Correct. Yeah. He's going off. I'm excited for universal. I hope we're good. I want us to be good. It'd be awesome if we're good. I mean, the world cup would be so bad.

I'm going to be like, yeah, we're, we're never going to be good. And I think that would be, that would be valid at that point. If we're bad, then it's like yeah, we're we're never gonna be good And I think that would be that would be valid at that point if we're bad then it's like we're bad Then it's like why isn't Jalen Brown on this team? Yeah, this is this is exciting because I've always wanted to just get to the bottom of it Like should we actually invest money and time and resources as sports fans or we just gonna be bad I will find out if we're good then it's to be like fuck. Yes. Let's go win a World Cup I'm also interested not saying we will with this guy does in turn because when you're the u.s. Soccer coach You're in charge of a lot of shit. Not just coaching the team on the field you have responsibility and like developing the youth program and

in the past he's worked with like the government of Different cities and and parts of different countries to like get them to buy into his youth development program So I don't know if this guy's going to go across the United States and be like, hey, we need to work on our youth development. I'm going to meet with the mayor of Chicago. I don't know if I'm going to meet with the governor of Texas or whatever. But I'm curious to see, because I think he's going to be coaching for the most part stationed

overseas in Europe. Which is fine. Listen, we've tried it the other way before. Yeah, we just need to- And it hasn't worked. When he's here, he just needs to be here. He needs to be here. To get all of them.

So is he keeping another job or is this his job now? I think this is his job. Oh, love that. I don't think he's like a step coach. Good for him. Yeah, so Pocotino. Smart move. The bar is low. A European guy from Argentina.

Hmm. That's interesting. Yeah. How'd he get down there? Don know okay operation paper let's anything else are the Phillies dead max they won last night okay so they're back I just know they've been struggling they were struggling and then Schwerber had a grand slam to save the season the NBA schedule came out I saw Yeah, it opens up with Knicks and Celtics. It's talking basketball. That's about it.

What off season? No off season for us. Sixers play the Celtics on Christmas Day. Oh. That's such a gift. That was the number one thing that I saw. I saw the Bulls have two nationally-tall ice games total.

I think one of them is against the Hornets on a Friday night at like 10 p.m. That's sick. Is that the NBA Cup though? It might be. I don't know. No, that's in mid-November. Mid-November, yeah. Oh, and then also, if there's any Notre Dame swimmers listening to this right now, we'll

hire you. They started a legal gambling ring. I read about that. What's what's the problem here? I don't know But I just know that like us having bar still having its own swimming team that we just challenge other people like when we get In beefs online just like you know what? Let's let's let's finish this in the pool your fastest guy. I just have like a Harlem Globetrotters s team We get just bring them out there.

Against guys that can't really swim. The Washington Generals of swimming. Let's finish this like men. Let's finish it in the pool. There would be a lot of deaths if that was an actual format. But I read about it. They had like an internal pool for lack of a better term. Like an internal gambling ring. Okay, I'm confused.

Where they would bet on themselves. And bet amongst themselves who's going to finish better and who's going to play. That's just fun. That's just dudes. Yeah. What's the problem here? That's crazy.

If you do that, that means there's a lot of teams that would have that issue. Yeah. Because that's- It's classic Notre Dame though to be like, we uncovered it. Just wanted to raise our hand and say we found a dicey gambling operation amongst our swimming team so we're going to shut it down. Yeah. Thank us later. This is Notre Dame. Get in front of this. All right. Let's do let's let's get let's get ourselves ready for some football. Let's

before we do this we're going to give a couple picks. So with DraftKings you can bet on all the preseason stuff now. I we're thinking about prop picks, so we're gonna throw a couple out there. Which one are you gonna pick? I'm gonna do rushing touchdowns. Okay, and Max, which one are you gonna do? I'm gonna do passing touchdowns. I had receiver. Okay, so Max, you wanna start?

Who's your most receiving yards on DraftKings? I'm trying to get the odds for them right now. All right, then I'll start. Yeah. I'm gonna go passing touchdowns. I know that some people might say, oh, sophomore slump. CJ Straub plus 950. I like it. I mean, Stefan Diggs, Nico Hollins. Tank Del. Tank Del. That offense is going to be explosive.

I actually saw a picture of someone, it was like a meme, and it was CJ Stroud with those three guys standing on the sidelines, like who's gonna stop them? And I wanted, I didn't, but I wanted to just circle Stefan Diggs and be like, that's who. He's the guy. When he doesn't get the ball, that's exactly who. But yeah, you're gonna have to keep him happy. Yeah, he's plus 950.

Mahomes and Dak Prescott are the two favorites. So, little value, plus 950. I think CJ Shroud's gonna fucking rock this year. I like that. Yeah. It's a good pick, good value. Okay, what do you have? So, for mine, I'm going to go with

rushing touchdown leader, Breece Hall. Ooh. Breece Hall. I just lost the odds. I think it's plus 1800 plus 1900. Oh something like that and my reasoning behind it is Aaron Rodgers should play more than five snaps this year, right memes should are else memes is strapping a what to himself Yeah, what are you gonna do memes? Yeah, I'm gonna blow myself up where NFL headquarters Oh Patrick Beverly not expected to sign with the NFL

But I like pre-salt because the first year with Nathaniel Hackett that Aaron Jones had in Green Bay I think he had 16 rushing touchdowns nice, and I feel like Nathaniel Hackett's gonna get him the ball inside the five. I would do they have a touchdown vulture it's going to get him the ball inside the five. Do they have a touchdown vulture? Yeah, Braylon Allen. Braylon Allen is on. Yeah, Braylon Allen. Braylon Allen is 19 years old and he's actually exactly who they'll use.

He actually looked really good. Fuck, he looked really good. Yeah, I don't care. I like Brissol. Brissol is a good player. And Izzy's not knocking on the door this year. Jalen Hurts at 15 to 1 isn't crazy. Now, Saquon will know. No, no, he big cat. He is Saquon and also he throws too many touchdowns now. It's true. Won't be rushing. It's good point. And the tush push. Who knows what's going to happen with no Kelsey. That's very true. Uh, it's what do you have, Max? It's

funny that it's funny that PFT went brief tall cause I'm going Garrett Wilson at 14 to one. All right. We're high on theets. Yeah, Garrett Wilson has had a really good He hasn't been a big touchdown guy, but he's never really had a big a Quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. I think that that's good value. He could blow up this year, okay? I'll change mine to Aaron Rodgers 16 to 1 that's actually not a bad pick big cat. I kind of like that pick. He's going to feast against the Patriots. Yeah. And they're going to do the perfect amount of handing the ball off in the goal line and

throwing it. Jets might score a billion touchdowns. Has that ever happened where three different guys on the same team have led the league in touchdowns at their positions? Well Memes gets mad that we think that the Jets suck, so now he's going to get mad that we think that they're good. Yeah.'s like we're jinxing you memes. Are we being florios right now memes. I don't know what this bit is. It's actually not a bit. Aaron Rodgers has led the league in touchdowns twice in his career so he can do it. He's

proven he can do it. Memes we can't we can't exist with you memes. When we hate the Jets, it's like, oh, you guys suck. When we love the Jets, you're like, this sucks. All right, so we're all in on the Jets. Yeah. Yeah. What's the shoot ball? No one ever went broke betting on the Jets. Yeah.

All right, ready, Huey? Give us some so we don't. Listen, this is the trust tree. We're doing this because we want to be ready for football season. We hope that people will not judge us for our lack of knowledge. It's still the preseason. If we were doing this week two, you could make fun of us. Because we're doing this right now, you can't.

We're just doing this together. Everyone's going to learn something. Okay? Here we go, Huey. All right. Receiver. Yes. Gabe Davis. Doing this together. Everyone's gonna learn something. Mm-hmm. Okay? Here we go, Huey. Alright. Uh, receiver. Yes. Gabe Davis.

Oh, I know this one. Jags. Boom. Oh, yeah. I did not know that one. I did know that one. Well, his previous team... Because the Jags have like all the... The Jags have basically built an entire receiving core out of like the upside guys that will also have like zero catch games.

Mm-hmm. Should we do a little game see if we know? What do you just guess like you knew that one? Yeah, so some big cat gets big head. Well, we don't have to like 75 percent as a team we're one for one. Okay What were you gonna say his former team? Well, his former team has collected this quarterback. Has collected a quarterback? Oh, I mean Mitch.

Oh, Ben Danucci. It was Mitch Trubisky. Oh, it's Mitch. And Ben Danucci. Yeah, I don't know if he knows Ben Danucci. But Mitch is back on the build. Yeah, the Cowboys guy. Gucci Danucci.

That's a layup for me. I know where Mitch is at all times. We're actually three for two right now. Bobby Wagner. He's our commander. Yes. He is. There we go. Had a great season last year, too Sterling Shepherd. Oh Sterling Shepherd. Oh boy Sterling Shepherd was on the Giants for and now he is on I want to say Raiders But that's might be close the Darren Waller was close trade from the Raiders oh did I maybe the Chargers did the charges no

why it was close in the mascot not in Oh Buccaneers yeah okay that doesn't count us getting one they did funny though that I was like oh Sterling Shepherd he's a giant now he must be a Raider because Darren Waller was a Raider and then he was a giant yep no nothing to do with each other. They just like trading with each other. Yeah. Quarterback Tyler Huntley. Ooh, Huntley.

Where's he at? He's not in Baltimore anymore, huh? Nope. Oh, fuck. This is a good one. Green Bay Packer. No. Hold on.

It's a fun one. It's a fun one. It's a fun one. Texans. No. No, that's Davis Mills. My god. Tyler Huntley is on the Seahawks. No. Damn. Alright, give it to us. The Browns.

Oh. Wait, that's fun. Jamis. It's fun. Okay. Okay. How the hell is Joe Flacco not on that team? He is. He is. What team is he? Colts. Oh, I knew that. Well, there goes that one. OK, so we got that one, too. Love it. So what are we?

Now we're six for five? Yeah. All right. We missed Sterling Shepard. OK. Quarterback Josh Dobbs. OK, so we talked about this. Josh Dobbs is on?

Did he stay? No, he couldn't have stayed with the Cardinals, right? Is he? Well, he went't have stayed with the Cardinals, right? Is he... Well, he went from the Cardinals to the Vikings. Is he a... Is he a stealer? He wouldn't be a stealer. No, no, no.

You're thinking of where he started. Panther? Titans. No. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know this, but I'm just gonna say hold on until I just say a name. What team could you envision Josh Dobbs starting one game for this year?

This one I'm saying Seahawks. No. Damn. Close. 49ers. Okay. Oh, he's going to be so good when he backs. Memes put it in the calendar, bet on Josh Dobbs when he plays because Brock Purdy gets

a concussion. Not that I'm rooting for Brock Purdy getting a concussion, but it will happen and then we'll bet on Josh Dobbs. All right, six for six. Okay Odo Beckham. Odo Beckham is a dolphin. Yeah. Yep. What about Michael Gallup? Oh We're together Michael Gallup is very underrated. Yeah Is Michael Gallup a Titan? No, it's Michael Gallup a cult. No That'd be fun Michael Gallup a Jaguar. No Bronco. No Michael Gallup Seahawk. No, is Michael Gallup a ram?

Close charger. No Cardinal nope Raider. Yep. Oh Retired some good he's retired Oh, okay. Retired. Hell yeah. This is some good podcast. He's retired. Wait, he's retired?

Oh. Okay. He signed with the Raiders. And then retired. And then retired, nice. Got it. All right, I bet you though, most people listening are going through the same thing

we are. Yes. Like, you need a reset before football season starts. You do. You don't want to get caught week one and be like, oh shit, he's on that team? Yeah. You can't say that out loud week one

You have to know your shit. Yeah, there's a couple guys you should know and you do know but yeah, you can't get all these okay? Receiver tight end Hayden Hearst Hayden Hearst where did he was on the Patriots? Know that you're thinking of I'm thinking of what's his name? Yeah, that makes oh I was thinking of that guy too. Oh Is this Hunter Henry? No, it is Hayden Hirsch. I was in my head. I was thinking the double H I was thinking oh this guy okay. See you Raven. Yeah, no no no because whenever they have likely See a bangle and then Mark Andrews who got into a car accident and thankfully he's okay, but then he used

the car accident to remind people of the importance of being aware when you're driving a car. Right. Meem says he knows it, which makes you think he's a jet. No, I said you guys should know this. Because we saw him. Oh, Charger. Yep. Bingo.

That was cheating though. Yeah, sorry. That's okay. Tyler Boyd mmm See y'all I knew he was off the the Bengals Jag nope He seems like a Titan there we go We have like our trusty go-to is like Seahawks Titans Jags Jerry Judy.

He's a Brown. Yep. Yeah. We knew that. That one was easy. Jacoby Bursette? Jacoby Bursette's a patriot. Yep.

He's back. He starred tonight, I think. Hank's leading him onto the field. Yeah. Hank knows him personally. You're the one who made this list, Huey. Yeah, Alexander Madison. Oh. Now, this is one of those ones where I'm going to say the Packers because the Vikings got

Aaron Jones. No. Okay. Close. Oh, close. Didn't make sense, but it made sense in my head. Is he... Not close. Is not close? No. Okay. Close. Oh, close. Didn't make sense, but it made sense in my head. Is he... Not close.

Is not close? No. Oh. Okay. Is he a Texan? No. He's a Titan? No.

Say Jaguar. No. Tell us who he is. Raider. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I like that. I like that fit.

Sure, yeah. That makes sense, I like that. I like that fit. Sure, yeah. That's it, I was close to the fact that Josh Jacobs went to the Packers and Aaron Jones went to the Vikings, so obviously Alexander Madison would have to go to the Raiders to complete the triangle. Yeah. Oh yeah, they're slingers. Yeah, right. They shuffled the deck.

The classic Packer, Viking, Viking Raider three-way trait All right, how many more you got max you playing tech deck. Yeah, he's been doing it non-stop. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I did it the other night was straight around and I was like dude I can hear you doing is there better time to play with a tech deck than during a podcast That's not me. That's not me memes means Mike was on he's just Yeah, good call Max dude to tech deck cam for the people who are watching do tech tech cam real quick and do a trick you mean Ollie come on he dropped the tech deck oh no get it you control your board bro. How many guys does it take to find a tech tech? The Falcons also signed Simmons. Oh Justin Simmons. They're beefing up. I didn't realize also Jim Leonard is coach

for the Broncos. That's cool. Yeah that is cool right. Alright how many more you got Huey? I have five defensive players. Oh, this is gonna be tricky. And Belichick's coaching for the University of Washington this year. With Pete Carroll. Yep. Start with the easiest. Okay. Devin White.

I know this one. Devin White. He's an eagle? Yeah. How could I have ever figured that out? Safety Xavier McKinney. Seahawk. No, he was a giant. Titan.

No. Give it to Aguar. Packer. Oh, okay. The next three are all from the 49ers. They left the 49ers. They left the 49ers. Brandon Iuke.

Randy Gregory. Eric Armstead, Chase Young. Chase Young's a saint. Yep. Yeah not literally but Seems like a decent guy. He's okay. I went to Ohio State. Yeah I have some free tattoos. Yeah, uh Randy Gregory Back on the Cowboys. No Randy Gregory big guy

Big guy. Yeah, be giant. giant no I thought that was a clue No, he was a big guy. He's a big guy. Okay Give it to us bucks. Okay, and Eric Armstead is close to the bucks Jaguar there you go. All right. Yeah, feel good. Do we miss anyone big? I feel like I have Mike Williams Alright, feel good. Do we miss anyone big? I feel like... I have Mike Williams, Tyron Smith, I have a couple names. Mike Williams.

Kirk Cousins. You know Mike Williams. Eckler. Eckler, I know that. Eckler's one of the commanders. Mike Williams went viral with the team that he signed with, when he signed with them. For doing what? Oh yeah, he did the thing.

What'd he do? If I tell you, it'll give it away. Just tell him. Well then tell us and then we can feel good about getting it. Taylor Ham, Egg and Cheese? Oh, he's a... Giant or Jet? Jet. We knew that. It's all about getting the right answer

and being like, I got that myself. That's the key to trivia. Okay, that was good. I feel like we got a bunch of them. I'm trying to think if there's any off the top of my head that I was looking at Josh Jacobs. I haven't really looked at it. Josh Jacobs was a good one. You need to know that yeah, that's a big one Yeah, and it's also good for your fantasy drafts, too

Yeah, like remember where some of these guys are trying to think anybody else any any weird guys that we didn't cover I Think we're good. I mean I'll throw this one out. Obviously, I know, but Deandre Swift is a bear. Yep. I feel like that will get people a little confused maybe. So, he is a bear. How's Jameer Gibbs? What's the prospect on his hamstring?

He's gonna be alright. The hamstring, just doing things, acting up. He'll be alright. Nothing to think about. Nothing to worry about. Nothing to think about, nothing to worry about nothing to think about nothing to worry No for us so stop thinking about your kids. Yeah, he's gonna be a big kid That's that's what they say about him you just thank you you gave the speech that I give to my kids when they get a boo-boo

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Yeah, truly an honor. I have been asked, we kind of alluded to it earlier in my Rushmore season, but I have been asked to lead the New England Patriots out of the tunnel by ... You're running on the field? By being the keeper of the light. That's the tradition in New England. So you're keeping the light. I have been asked to be the keeper of the light. I'm going to be ringing the bell to lead the team out onto the field. So you're against the Eagles. You're lighting the lighthouse? Essentially, yeah. So you're running out with

them on the field? No, I'm leading them out. How? By lighting the bell on the lighthouse. Okay. Signal for them to run on the field. Hey, you're the lighthouse expert, not me. What does ringing a bell have to do with lighting a lighthouse Because I'm this is semantics at this point you guys are just trying to get on Hank no Ft by the time that this has aired I do not exactly know how the system works But by the time this is aired you will have seen it so I don't honestly don't have the answer for you, okay? I appreciate you honestly you can find out by time. I'm very excited for you. you will have seen it so I honestly don't have the answer for you. Okay I appreciate the honesty. You can find out by the time people watch this.

I'm very excited for you. They will have seen it. Yeah you sound really excited. No you are the number one New England lighthouse fan in the world so this is a big deal. And most lighthouses to keep the light you ring a bell. Most every lighthouse has bells equipped on it yeah because if you don't know lighthouses were like you know to signal people like the ships are coming in ships are coming in in, you have to let people know, so there's bells on lighthouses. Oh, so you keep ships away.

Well, what about the light? The light is the thing that's the thing. Like, there's multiple uses for a lighthouse, Dan. Well, okay. It's very versatile. Give me the two, multiple uses. Two. One. Guide ships into the harbor.

Two. And alert other ships like Well, who are the bait sisters? You know the bait sisters no? Really with the baits the bait sisters back in the Revolutionary War They saw the British coming and they got on the lighthouse to sing oh to if by land one of my see or whatever We're coming in that does Paul Revere. Yeah, yeah, I think I was Paul Revere. No, those Hickabod crane headless horsemen. Yeah What's exciting? Well, congratulations. Thank you. We're so excited for you. They tell by our tone that we're excited I yeah, you guys are always excited for me my biggest supporters and I'd like to say thank you. No, it's great

I mean the summer of Hank continues What do you think is gonna be a bigger honor getting getting to ride on the the duck boat with Coach Missoula or keeping the lighthouse. It's up there. The Missoula one was all time though as this is top pro top five but but the Missoula one is one one. Are you a little worried that when you ring this bell for the lighthouse to have that right? Again, I don't know exactly how it works but you I'll be able to give you much more clarity

on Sunday's episode. Okay, so when you're sorry that I can't know exactly how this works, but you I'll be able to give you much more clarity on Sunday's episode Okay, so when you're sorry that I can't win you guys are trying to For the lighthouse are you worried at all that you're ringing the bell for the ending of summer of Hank No, okay, all right, I was not over I says every year summer is not over. Don't give up on summer yet. People. It's the beginning. It's not over the autumn of Hank Hank. Tauber dunked over dunk. Oh, that's what is happening. Okay. I'm a dunk.-ember and DUNK-ember. DUNK-ember. DUNK-annuary. DUNK-uary. No, DUNK-annuary.

It would be too late. DUNK-u-annuary-mentory. Okay. But summer's not over. I hate people that give up on summer early. I love it. I agree with you, Hank. Yeah.

We quit on summer way too early. It's football season. This is going to be huge. We live for the summer. You got to enjoy every last weekend you get. Yeah. Keep that light light Hank. Thank you Are you are you a little bit worried that someone's gonna catch you at a camera angle? Like was it the the guy from Texas Tech that was ringing that bell where it just looked like he was jerking off into the bell

I'm not worried about that. That's a funny video But no, I'm not worried about that. Okay. All right. Good. Good. Good. Good Alright, I'd be ashamed. Let's do the Mount Rushmore. It is the Mount Rushmore of Movie quotes. It's gonna be a good one Right now it looks like PFT is gonna win today's Mount Rushmore cuz he had boobs. Boobs was system play. Hank Are you in last right now? Is that a rhetorical question? I'm assuming yes. Okay, so what it what's the scoring? Is it four points? Yeah So I'm gonna be up by three. It? Yeah, so I'm gonna be up by three

Using I'm gonna be up by three on Hank is it three years at four because I think you get first place you get one Or you get four points five Wait you get first place you get four points if you get last place you get one point No, it's four for first place Four it's very simple four three two one so I. Might be four. It's very simple. Four, three, two, one. So I'm going to get four points, Hank. You're going to get a point. So I will be up by three.

Are you sure? Movie quote. Yeah, it's true. I don't own a gun. Let alone many guns to necessitate a gun rack. No stairway. OK. Ready?

Ready, Hank? Whose pick is first? That's Big Cat. Oh. Is it? And who goes after me? Hank. Got it. Got it. Okay. Movie quotes. I'm gonna go with the timeless classic, very easy. I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse. Godfather. That's a great quote. I love that quote. Yeah, you've seen that movie many times. I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse. Andfather. That's a great quote. I love that quote. Yeah, you've seen that movie many times. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. And

then he puts a dead horse in his bed. Yeah, I mean that's part of it. Yeah, that's part of the offer. Well, he declined the offer. And the dead horse was like, don't decline the offer. Yeah. Okay. Negotiation. He said way. Yeah, no's no way. And then he said way Hank dank. Do you like that quote? Yeah, it's a good quote. Okay. Was it on your list? No. Oh, okay. Great. My list. I again, like I'm the worst person at this, at this game. Uh, but I went with movies that I love. I love God. I know so but like Godfather you don't love it I don't love it I've seen it a few times I haven't seen it a million times I kind of just went with the quotes off top my head for movies I've

seen a million times so like you're gonna do like oh you want to come in my ass I mean what movies you love what movie is that you know what movie that is about someone help me I'm stuck in the window. Yeah. Oh, where you want to put it? It's usually the dryer. But I'm going to go with, I gotta go see about a girl. Ah, nice one. In her movie, my most famous quote from the movie,

Good Old Hunting. They end up breaking up, right? I think it's open ended. No, he went to Stanford and she was fucking another guy. Oh, I thought he left and he went to go see about her. His car broke down actually, because it was a shitty car. Okay. Yeah.

I wouldn't know anything about it. He only got two hours. Okay, good quote. Thanks. I'm not prepared for this one. What does that mean? I'm not prepared. There's a million movie quotes.

I literally brain-dumped and there was like 40 that are just sitting here. This one I feel good about. You guys probably won't. I didn't bring dumped into my head like 40 that are just sitting here this one I feel good about you guys probably won't but it was my favorite movie growing up as a kid I'm the I'm the garbage-kicking Philly kicker no You're killing me smalls okay, ah good work Sandlot great lot Great would have been funny if you just went all rocky that also plays like Like there's movie quotes and there's movie quotes that like people

say it all the time. Yeah. You just say that to like, if like you say that to me, like you're killing me. You're killing me. Yeah. It's a good one. Okay. All right.

So I get two, right? Yeah. You get two. Yeah. And then it's Max? Yeah, that's Max. Okay. Then it's Hank.

When do I come again? It's Big cat gets to is that a quote you have? I'm gonna go with I'll be back. Mm-hmm Schwarzenegger. Yeah Terminator. Yeah There's a lot of Schwarzenegger Terminator Terminator 2 I forget I think that was Terminator 1 I think Seems like you love that movie Is it movies or is it quotes movie quotes movie quotes okay all right I just want to make sure I was getting this right it is spicy in here I actually don't know what that's a movie

quote all right on my take every episode number two I'm gonna go with I'll have what she's having when hearing met Sally couldn't tell you got it got it got it I Number two, I'm gonna go with I'll Have What She's Having. When Harry Met Sally. Couldn't tell you. Got it. Got it. Got it. I mean, I knew that quote, I just couldn't remember the movie. Undeniably one of the most iconic movie quotes of all time.

Yes. They're in the diner, she's faking an orgasm, then Rob Reiner's mom says I'll have what she's having. Classic, classic bit. Undeniable. Undeniable. No one's gonna, can't deny that one. Did you have that one Hank? I did not Okay

I am going to go Show me the money Jerry Maguire Good pick okay, very funny scene. That was like one of the I think that I remember watching that movie as like a kid And like I think it's rated that movie as like a kid and like I think it's rated that's a rated R movie that was it was one that was like I watched it earlier than I should I remember watching that scene being like that was so fucking funny and yeah and it's good quote are we for for the graphic we're obviously gonna put the movie yeah yeah okay show me the money you also now it's a tickiktok judge there's a great a great line from

that movie too that could have been on this list the human head weights eight pounds yeah there's a good there's another there's a couple there's a few whatever whatever way I mean you had me at hello is you weren't thinking of the human head each week with that but I that's still in play to show me the money scene is funny is funny is the funniest one to me That's why I picked that one. Yeah, give me my money. Give me my money I I'll go with this one might be a stretch, but it actually applies to me the most I actually you know turned on this video

Last night cuz I've been going through it a little bit in life and in this segment specifically. Oh The night is darkest just before the dawn Oh And I'm it's dark for me right now from from from Batman the dark night. Okay, is that true? Yeah, definitely, okay why else would they say it yeah good point yeah, okay, so I have to know Hank I just want Yeah, you you went Hank so now max you went before max went okay, correct So that means a big guy has to okay. I have to yes, I have to okay alright alright

I'll go I'm gonna stick with the theme real quick with Al Pacino I'm gonna go with say hello to my little friend. I had it I had it He's just Scarface classic alright, and then I'm gonna go with a newer movie And I feel like this is more just like people like to use this Everyday life memes everything farted out of my heart That is a good movie court, I should have put that down. I'm gonna go Wolf of Wall Street.

I'm not leaving, I'm not fucking leaving. That's a good one. Yeah, it's definitely having a detergent. Yeah, yeah. Gets you fired up. Anytime a coach stays. I'm not fucking leaving. Yeah, just gets you fired up.

Hank. There's a lot. There's a lot to pick. There's a lot of good quotes. That's what makes this hard. Yeah, it's a good Mount Rushmore. Great topic by you, Hank. You're the one who picked it. You picked this Mount Rushmore, so credit to you for picking a great Mount Rushmore, Hank. Did you know it was your turn? Oh, you just picked two?

You fucking asshole. Oh, okay, so it's my turn. See, this one actually, like, I think that people have the wrong... I was one of those people until I, you know, Googled it to double check, but... The quote is, you're gonna need a bigger boat. Yeah. Yeah. You would think it's, we're gonna need a bigger boat, but it's, you're gonna need a bigger boat.

But that's my pick. It's a good quote. I had it on my list. Yep. But did you not think it was, we're gonna need a bigger boat? Yes. I thought it was, I think we're gonna need a bigger boat. Yeah. Berenstein Bears style.

Yeah, definitely. But it's, you're gonna, that's the quote is, you're gonna need a bigger boat. So that's the quote. Yep. Okay. Good, goodstein Bears style. Yeah, definitely, but it's you're gonna that's the quote is you're gonna need a bigger boat So that's the quote. Yep. Okay good good pick Hank Max Max is struggling. I have a question. Yes. Can I also take a godfather quote? Yes, of course Okay, then I'll take leave the gun take the cannoli. Okay, all right, good pick good pick from a famous scene Great great pick PFT Okay. Alright, good pick. Good pick. From a famous scene. Quotable.

Great pick. PFT? Oh, am I up? Yeah. Okay. I have two. Yeah. I've thought of like six more quotes doing this.

I know. Okay. I just don't, I don't know. This is very hard. It's very difficult. I'm gonna go with Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You know what you're gonna get for scum come on Mama always said life was like a box of chocolate. You never know what you're gonna get

How can you rob the people those must be comfortable shoes? I wish I had me some shoes like that I actually was I was not mama said they were magic shoes I wanted you to pick it because I wanted you to do it Jenny me was like peas and carrots Okay, magic legs. I could just keep doing this. Okay, so I get two so I'm gonna have another one and my second pick is going to be You can't handle the truth Good one versatile. You're just screaming at anybody.

Very, very versatile. I hate my draft. It's horrible. I'm just going to keep going. Mine's worse. Mine's so bad. I'm just going to go, yo, Adrian. Give me a... It's a good one.

Adrian! You just took the meatballs of Paul. Max neverinks it and he that's why he does so well Yeah, it's true. I'm no I'm gonna lose this one. He empties his brain for sure Okay Hank your last pick. I feel like I have to he's the most quoted person in my life I think the most quotable movies that he has so I have to pick one from him There's so many to choose from But I think what will look the funniest on the graphic is to today jr.

Okay, had had to get an Adam Sandler quote on here. Yeah There's so many like it's it's hard I wanted I kind of wanted to do like the one I like to say the most is like I Eat piece of shit like you for breakfast you eat pieces of shit But that's just a lot of words. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but so what but today junior. It's good one. It's a good one That's a good one Okay, I'll go with my last one. There's so much you do Adam Sandler movies. I know oh I I know. Oh. I like this one. Fuck. I'm gonna go with it. There are so many good ones. I have so many left on the floor. Could have gone, could have gone 12 rounds. But I love

this one because you can use it for everything else. Should we? Should we just go eight? Go eight. Six? If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook. I love that quote. Okay, yeah. You just basically just write it someone's face like if you if you would have done it you would have done it. The Winklevies. Yeah, well Mark Zuckerberg.

Yeah, said it's the Winklevies. Alright, so we have honorable mentions. There's so many. So many. There's one, like I was kind of thinking, because Hank is right, the smaller quotes help. Like are you not entertained? We've been a good one fuck why so serious Batman why so serious was definitely the yeah One how I got these scars. Yeah, why so serious is definitely just keep swimming finding Nemo. Yeah Look at me look at me. I'm the captain now. That's good. That's a good one

I had I feel the need the need for speed like that hop gone James Bond my team is on the floor Hoosiers pain heels chicks dig scars glory last forever I probably fucked up I probably fucked up my last quote I should have gone with the other one I was thinking about you blitz all night life moves pretty fast you don't stop and and look around once in a while you can miss it Ferris Bueller. If you build it he will come. Yep. Yep. Get to the chopper. I see dead people.

That's a good one. I know you are but what am I? Pee-wee's Big Adventure. Keep your friends close but your enemies closer. Godfather. Yeah. There's no crying in baseball. That's good. There's no crying in baseball is good. Max is not giving us any honorable mentions. No, I'm well, I wasn't prepared. I, one that's very quotable, but like I don't really know how you, because you got to get the whole line in, but Hey, Greg, why don't you go pitch your pants again? That was eight years ago asshole. People don't forget.

Yep. I guess you could just go people don't forget, but kind of need the whole thing. But that one people don't forget is like. Do we just become best friends? Yep. Mm-hmm I mean, that's always us the two of us if you this is this something I asked my friends a lot but if what is the Movie that you think you know the most percentage of lines in it for scum Like not quotes from it, but like you like word-for-word whole movie. Yeah, for scum

Probably science of the lambs. I had I had one of those quotes in there of the Chianti since it's taken once tried to test me Hey, that's like a lot of there's a lot of dialogue. I'm talking about a line of dialogue. Oh It puts lotion on its skin. Yeah. Yeah, I would say I Benjamin Raths Bell a fledgling killers first flight Hester Moffat, it's an anagram. Clarice, the rest of me. Is Silence of the Lambs a sequel? Kind of. Brian Cox played Hannibal Lecter.

I think it kind of is. I think Manhunter was a prequel that came out. I don't know. I get the timeline. No, well there's Red Dragon, which which is awesome I read an article that was a Hannibal 2 which was not great and Then there's a Hannibal 4 I want to say that was okay. I read an article about how Brian Cox worked on Super troopers, and it was like they offered it to Bill Murray then he turned it down Brian Cox read it He was like I always kind of wanted to do comedy, and then I played Hannibal Ector and my whole career changed I was like wait Brian Cox played him. Yeah, that was manhunter

Yeah, so but that was before silence of the land. Yeah. Yeah, so that Hannibal Lecter was lambs as a sequel is played by two different People I don't I don't know if they call it a sequel and like the classic sense of it But yeah, it's like in the same universe. Yeah One of my favorite don't need to see manhunter to see Correct, right and you don't need to see red dragon. You don't need to see sounds of living You read over oh, dude red dragon is incredible. I've also never watch red dragon ever Norton. It's scary as fuck So fucking scary awesome movie. There's a lot of naked crouching in that movie. Yeah heads up dude You red dragon is awesome

One of my favorite quotes of all time from a movie But I feel like it wouldn't have really played on the graphic and it's also I mean Roadhouse is a popular movie But I used to fuck guys like you in prison, which was an ad lib Like like quote it wasn't on the script because it still makes no sense you just he was you had him in a chokehold He said I used to fuck guys like you in prison. So he's just saying the fuck Cardiola do it my favorite quote you talk get me to to my favorite from Roadhouse. That's a great one There's so much like pain don't hurt. Yeah, I Know a lot about golf. I

Know you know a lot about golf. I even know I know even more about grass Yeah Ain't got shit on me. Houston. Yeah, problem. Houston. We have a problem King Kong and got shit on me damn I didn't know what's streaking. I didn't know you like to get wet. Yeah, you just smoke PCP Jake Come on, Jake I had if you could dodge a wrench, you could dodge a ball. Yeah. Head body, head body. I actually think you didn't use the most,

oh, fuck, one just popped in my head. Did you say urine? What? Dodge ball? No. I knew it was like, urine. No. That's what I love about these high school girls.

Yeah. They get older and they stay the same age, just alright alright alright. What are some yeah shit? I also had smoky. There's not nom this bowling. Yeah, yeah, and also well Yeah, you know that's just like your opinion man. You're entering a world of pain. Yeah There's a lot of good. This is what you get when you fuck a stranger in the asshole. Yeah There's an I'll ask you has a great one What you get when you fuck a stranger in the asshole. Yeah. The Nihilus.

Yeah, Big Lebowski has a great one. Ass to Ass. Yeah. Requiem for a Dream. By the way, I don't know if this was on camera or not. No, I don't think it was. We were, I think it was disc golf, right? We were playing disc golf, and we started to do the Requiem

for a Dream music. All right, this is crazy. The dramatic opera song that goes, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da da da da da da da, da da da da. You've heard it in every dramatic movie, every dramatic commercial. And Hank said. I feel like you guys don't understand satire,

even though, by your career. That was so serious when you said that. There was no way that was satire. I knew the song was from Whet Cream for a Dream. PFT, what did I just? Do you think I did know it was from wet cream for a dream Pft. Do you think I don't know it's from what cream for a dream? I think I think the same WEC we am rec We um Hank said that the the 2009 Boston Celtics made that song famous Right which like it if you think I was being serious when I said that I think you were We're gonna have to check the tapes. Yeah, we'll check the tapes. We'll get to the tapes We'll go to the tapes

This is good Mount Rushmore looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. Yeah, that's a good one You've been in a Turkish prison That's a good one Shit anything else motorboating son of a bitch good Mount Rushmore Hank good Mount Rushmore not you not you Yeah, I thought you would have gone more departed. It's not gonna be me, you, and Sean. What's the one, what's the, I'm the guy who, when he's like, I'm the guy who does this

and you're the other guy. Who's the bad guy? Oh, who's the bad guy? The bad guy's a great one. You must, I'm the guy that does his job. Yeah. You must be the other guy. Yeah.

That's departed. Yeah, yeah, I thought you'd go with some of those. Whose car are we taking? All you care about is playing Coke and Xbox whose car we taking yeah you missed that that was a big miss for you I could have just done boss in movies yeah playing football for West K and Haskell was the opportunity of your life but I don't college soccer all right good Mount Rushmore thank you Hank good luck thank you lighting well when this airs you you have already, wait, is he lighting

it or is he ringing a bell? He will have rung the bell and you can't unring a bell. He's going to lead the team out onto the field and that's what you guys don't understand. It's great to have the rugby team do it for week one. Hank week two is big. Yeah. Ring that bell. Sounds like you're. Yeah. No, I love rugby. No. If I had said it, watch. He said it that way. I said, yeah, they had the rugby team do it week one and then you did week two. See, that's different.

The Free Jacks did it. You're going to be great. You're going to do great, sweetie. Hank, listen, I love rugby. I love you. This is a big Fortnite for me. And you love rugby too. You stiff-armed Max.

Remember that? Yeah, that was a great clip. We should post that more. Yeah. Memes, what happened to that one? Fortnite for me and you love rugby too you stiff-arm max remember that mm-hmm yeah that was a great clip we should post that more yeah memes what happened to that one that clip kind of fell off did somebody pay you off the stiff-arm one yeah um no I can bring back yeah she's come okay great got our interview with Khalil Mack coming up next he's brought to you by our great friends over at Coors Light. Coors Light, the mountains are blue, baby. Perfect Coors Light season. Here Friday in Chicago, it's going to be like 85 degrees, sunny, perfect day for an ice

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So, Khalil, first of all, thank you for joining us. First question, same question we ask everyone on Grit Week. How do you define grit? Oh man, it's a badass, tough motherfucker, willing to do anything to help the team win. Okay, that's a good answer. You a badass, tough motherfucker willing to do anything to help the team win. Okay, that's a good answer. Are you a badass tough motherfucker? I mean it should be obvious, I shouldn't have to tell you.

I want it to be obvious with my actions on the field, not just speaking on it. I would say you are. A true badass motherfucker doesn't have to say they are, everyone just knows it. I want you to say it for me. Yeah, you are a true badass motherfucker. We can to say they are. Everyone just knows it. I want you to say it for me. Yeah, you are. You are a true badass motherfucker. We can redo the intro if you want. We're joined by a very special guest, Khalil Mack,

a true badass motherfucker. Yes. Thank you, man. That sounds good. Thank you, man. That sounds cool. So Khalil, I talked to you a little yesterday. I wish you were still a bear.

But we're excited to have you on. I'm happy that you're doing well with the Chargers. You had, how many sacks did you have last year? 17 and a half. Jeez, 17 and a half. You're old. 17, maybe 17. I should have actually intro'd it differently.

Future Hall of Famer. Have you thought in your head the number of sacks you want to get to, because you're over 100. Yeah. You're getting into that territory where it's like, these are some real dudes up here. Yeah, here. Do you have a number in your head? Definitely don't have a number in my head. The only number I had in my head was the 100.

Knowing I can get to that was pretty cool last year. But from now on, it's just going out and playing ball. Yeah. And it's crazy that you got to 100 sacks for people who don't know your story with football. You only played one year of high school football, right? Yeah. So there's a whole alternate world where you don't get hurt playing basketball in high school and you never play football. Low key. Yeah. Yeah. I probably have to be a physical trainer or something. Yeah.

That's nuts. Yeah. So it was a knee injury? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Patella. You tore your patella? Yeah. That's not training. Yeah. So is it was a knee injury? Yeah. Yeah. But telling you toward your patella. Yeah. And then you came back and you became one of the most explosive football players in the world. Yeah, man. Yeah. That's good. God is amazing. So so when you switch to football, because you were, you know, obviously you were thinking, all right, basketball, I'm going to get a scholarship. You have one year of high school football where you like this might be the end for me. Like I have to play out and then hope that something falls

in my lap here. Yeah, low key man. But the first day we put pads on, my head coach at the time in high school, his name is Wade Ashman. He said after the padded practice, he was like, I might be able to get you a scholarship, man. That might be turned into an offer from Liberty University

and then that changed into an offer from a university at Buffalo. Yeah, so that was first day he was like, oh yeah, you might be a scholarship guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. That's awesome, so you go from Florida. You grow up in Florida.

And then you go to Buffalo. We love Buffalo. Buffalo is a great city. Great people up there. But the first time you got to really experience the cold in Buffalo as a guy from Florida, what was that like? Man, it was life changing, man. I think I had my biggest winter coat on the first day,

maybe like 50 degrees. And everybody was looking at me like, why you got your biggest? I think it's called Burlington Coat Factory. My pops took me to Burlington Coat Factory to get me the big jacket. And I had it on thinking that was the coldest it was going to get.

But when it got to negative 10 and five, it was definitely life changing. Yeah. And at Buffalo, you were insane. First team All-American in the Mac, which is hard to do. At what point in your career at Buffalo could you tell, not that the game was easy for you, but you were clearly just so much better than everyone

else on the field? Man, I remember the first day of padded practice going against the tight end at the time was a guy named Jesse Rack. I think he was probably like a decorated guy as well in the Mac Conference. And I remember whooping him pretty good. Shout out to Jesse. No offense.

Jesse's just sitting in his house right now like, what the fuck? And then going against another guy, Shout out to Jesse. No offense. But I remember whipping him pretty good. And then going against another guy, James Starks. Him instilling that confidence in me like, man, you can ball, bro. I heard it from him. And seeing him go on the green bay and do what he did this first year in the league and win the Super Bowl and all those different things. It kind of helped my confidence. Yeah.

And then going to the draft process, I know GMs, they like to get real weird with it. They like to figure out if a guy is mentally tough enough, especially if they come from a small school, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe all your physical stuff is out there and they measure it and they're like, yeah, it fits the profile. But when they're talking to you, were they

trying to fuck with you a little bit, knock you off balance in the interviews? I feel like, were they trying to fuck with you a little bit? Like knock you off balance in the interviews? I feel like the only interview I had that ended up being like the funniest one because that's the team that drafted me was, was, was with the Raiders. And so talking to them, it was definitely funny in a sense. So they would try to get a feeling, a feel for the type of person I was just from the like 15 minute conversation at the time. But it wasn't so much of them trying to figure out if I was just from the 15 minute conversation at the time. But it wasn't so much of them trying to figure out if I was tough,

cuz I feel like they can already tell. But just seeing the demeanor that I have off the field versus the one I have on the field is kind of two different things. Yeah. Did you talk to Mark Davis in that interview process? Not Mark Davis. I just remember talking to Reggie McKenzie and all the guys that were under him at the time. Yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk to Mark, no.

Mark, he's a hero of ours. I know you probably have your differences with the whole contract. No, no, no. It's all love. It's still all love from Mark. But the Gruden guy is the guy that I probably had the biggest issue with.

That was weird, right? Because I remember the contract negotiation, because you were first team all pro. Was it Oakland at the time, or was it Vegas? Man, I really can't remember. Maybe it was, was it 18? 2018, I think. Yeah, you were on Oakland.

They didn't believe you yet. I was with the Bears in 18. Yeah, so I know you had your differences with the organization, but Gruden was coming in, and it felt like that contract negotiating Just kept getting dragged out and dragged out Yeah, like when is this gonna happen is it gonna happen and then you get traded and Gruden says that you didn't want to be there Yeah, but you never talked to Gruden exactly. Have you talked to him yet? Man?

I talked to him a few times since then a few supposed to be private conversations, but uh one of them was, oh you motherfuckers won. Motherfuckers won the trade or whatever at the time and I knew we were gonna play Oakland that next year after my 18, that year in 18 with the Barres. I think we was gonna play them in London. He was like, I'm going to send the house at your ass whenever we play. And that motherfucker, he really did. So it was funny. It was funny just interacting with him over the phone

and kind of squashing the beef, but not really. Yeah. Cause it always gonna be that same feeling every time I see those colors on the other side. Yeah, use it to motivate you. I had another question about your draft process. How much do you think your helmet, your face mask helped you get drafted so high? Because that was the coolest

face mask ever, the one you wore at Buffalo. You looked like Bane. Yeah, I wanted to wear it in the league. I thought Ray Lewis probably wore it maybe the year before. Two years or three years before. I knew Justin Tucker was wearing it. And then they changed the rules as soon as I got to the league and so maybe that did help. Yeah, that was the coolest thing ever. I also read a story, I wonder if you can, if you remember this, I read a story that you were so dominant in practice at Buffalo that they would make you line up like five yards off of the line because they were like the offense can't get their plays off? No that ain't true.

Okay they never did that? That's funny man. Okay and then the other one, the other story I read which was crazy, I guess there was a pass rush where you one arm hit the tackle and he was falling into the quarterback and then you grabbed the tackle and basically picked him back up so he didn't fall into the quarterback. I think I'm still doing that. It's great. They watch it after like what the hell just like the quarterback the story I read the quarterback watched it after and was like hello Max saved my life because you you you basically threw him in the air and then as he was falling

you grabbed him and pulled him back. There's a quarterback that's been on the wrong end of that. I think Eli, I think I called Eli. I wasn't trying to do it, but it just so happened. It happened that way. I think Eli was the only guy I probably got like that. Just throwing someone else into him? Well, yeah. Maybe him and Kirk Cousins, maybe. Yeah, those two check out for guys

that would get sacked like that. Your best sack of all time was when you sacked Aaron Rogers with your ass. Yeah, that was awesome. You it was the ass sack. That was great. And you forced the fumble, right? I thought they called it the back sack. No, it backed that ass up.

Yeah. Was that the week one game? It was a great sack. No, I don't think it was week one. The week one game sucked, that one when they came back. I think it was the NSE when we clenched the NRC. Yeah, yeah, at the end of the season. NRC North, yeah, end of season, yeah. But in the play, you can watch it back,

and you realize, oh, I'm not going to be able to turn around. I'm just going to stick my ass. And your ass forced the fumble. Come on, man. You're talking about my ass. I mean, it's true. I knew he was somewhere back there. I was trying to grab at the ball.

So yeah, whatever. By any means, I was trying to grab grab at the ball mm-hmm and so yeah whatever whatever by any means I was trying to get that motherfucker yeah I I do have to bring up a bad memory the double doink but I want to talk about the 2018 Bears because that defense was so much fun to watch yeah man at what point in the season were you like this is a different like cuz I thought you know if you beat the Eagles like the sky's the limit with the way the defense is playing. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. Man, man. Bring it back.

Remember, it's like a mug, man. The first day there, man, I kind of just got a feel for the guys. Knowing that Kyle Fuller was there, I knew you had a baller on the outside, but I didn't know a lot about Prince or Mukumor. Yep. But sitting down and talking with him and then figuring out that he can press off the line and all these different things. And I didn't even know this young guy, Eddie Jackson, was in the back end ready to catch the ball and score at any moment. Yeah, along with Amos and Hicks. And

then you got two guys, a guy that just got drafted in Roe Corn Smith at the time and Danny Trevathan in the middle. Yep. And then Akim and Eddie Goldman and Leonard Floyd on the outside. So it was like I didn't know I was coming into this because I didn't I really didn't know a lot about the Bears organization before I went. I think I made a joke and said I met the whole McCasky family and had no clue who was who. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a real big shock in the culture

of just seeing how big that family was and how much that team meant to the city of Chicago. Yeah. And that double doink, how long did it take you to? Man. People still just spam it in my replies on Twitter all the time. I'm a bit delusional, because it's like, at the time,

I was thinking, man, it won't be so bad. We can keep this group together. Yeah. We can come back next year and have another shot. Yeah. And that's what I've immediately fixed my mind to. But as time goes on, you feel it more. And just the understanding of, damn,

that was a rare opportunity right there, man, to really do what I want to do before I hang them up. Yeah. Do you think it was maybe a mistake the next season started with Matt Nagy ending every practice with kickers kicking from that spot? Oh man see I don't know that I didn't even know that. Yeah yeah you tried to like exercise the demon. All that does it just puts it right back in your head. Yeah. I mean it is a crazy play. Yeah. Double doink. And

you guys are so good like I know that I'm obviously very biased and everyone laughs at the Bears and we're a joke and all that stuff but that team was playing like I remember the the game that I think about in that season was when the Rams who end up going to the Super Bowl that year come with their offense to Soldier Field and I think you guys didn't even let them score a touchdown just absolutely demolish them and I was like this is different. Yeah Yeah, man, that was a special group, man. And also with Coach Vic Fangio, man, just the mastermind behind him as a whole and him understanding the players

that he had and making sure before the week, we were prepared and knew what we were going to do. And everything was just going to be, we expected to dominate the teams that we went against and so yeah man, shots out to them man. I definitely missed that group. Yeah, do you miss bare weather at all? No, I don't miss the winter time but I miss like the fall season and

the fall seasons and all those different things. Man, Chicago is a beautiful city man. I moved from Glencoe to down to like the, what they call that, the golden, the golden triangle. The gold triangle, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The Viagra Triangle or the Gold Coast?

You know what I'm talking about. Viagra Triangle, yeah. Yeah, you know it, yeah. Yeah, it's a beautiful city. I'm still a little young for that. I gotta wait till my dick stops working. Wait, some times. See, I didn't even know we could talk like this.

We can talk like this. Yeah, we can talk whatever you want. Yeah, oh yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Well, sometimes. See, I didn't even know we could talk like this. We could talk like this. Yeah, we'd talk whatever you want. Yeah. Oh, OK. OK. OK. Any questions about her dick? No, hell no.

OK, all right. All right. Well, if they come up. If it comes up naturally, we're happy to address. Listen, guys need to be able to talk to each other like this. No, man. It's all good. Guys can talk to each other.

It's fine, by the way. So you mentioned where you're living in Glencoe. It's not really that good. We have to bring, I told you this yesterday, we have to put to bed the Halloween, the famous Halloween story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the media ran with it.

Yeah, it's a girl. That Khalil Mack hates kids, Khalil Mack hates Halloween. Yeah, what was that? He shut down his house for Halloween, turned off the lights, had a security out front. What happened? Man, so what happened was, in some type of way,

my address was on the news in Chicago. And I just had random people just randomly coming up to my house for probably like a week before Halloween even came about. And so talking to my guy, Tarpey, I don't know if you know, John. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, Tarpey, I don't really feel too safe right now. I'm trying to figure out the Chicago media system,

like they can just put your house online or on the news. He's like, man, trust me, it's different, but we'll figure it out. And I'm like, okay, but before Halloween, we're gonna have to figure something out because I know it's probably gonna be a lot of traffic coming through here. And I want to make sure everything good at the house.

And he was like, okay, bet we can set something up. And so he just so happened to have one of the security from the team to sit outside to make sure waiting anybody really trying to just break in for so much of the word, for the terms. But yeah, and at the time, I don't think I had my gate up yet, I think it was partially up maybe. I feel like it was like partially up and the entrances

were like no gates. And it looked a little awkward, but at the time, I didn't have any candy. I just moved in. I don't think I had a bed at the time, for real. And so it was one of those things. So for the record, Cluel Mack does not hate Halloween. Yeah. And Cluel Mack is for the kids.

I don't celebrate. I personally don't celebrate. Oh, so you might hate Halloween. You might hate Halloween. No, I don't celebrate it. OK. I don't celebrate it. Why don't you celebrate it?

I don't celebrate it because of my beliefs. OK. All right. All right. All right. So but do you are you for the kids? Oh, yeah. Okay. Absolutely. I just wasn't for, you know, your dress getting leaked. I agree with that. Yeah, that was new. That was new for me coming from coming from San Ramon, California. It was when the ad that intense. Yeah, okay, that's fair. So if a kid comes up to you, not on Halloween, different day, dressed in a costume, and they're like, Mr. Mac, Mr. Mac, can I have some candy, please, Mr. Mac? Would you give that child candy? You have a bag, you have a full candy in your pocket. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

Y'all seen, y'all Halloween guys? Yeah, I like candy. You like candy? Yeah. Yeah, what kind of candy you like? I like, so my favorites are like Sour Patch Kids. Oh, Sour Patch Kids. I like Three Musketeers a lot.

I like Twix. I like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. We saw down in, I think, was the linebacker's room? There's just two boxes full of candy. They said that that wasn't yours though. No, no, no, no, no. Does Coach Ben Herbert know about that? Man, I hope not. Yeah. I hope not. I think I've seen a picture of you doing the neck exercise. Yeah. How strong was your neck when he did he test your neck? Oh man. I did. He tested your neck.

Yeah. Tested our necks. How did, what test did he do? He put us through a neck workout. He pushed on our head. He put his hand on the back of my head and then gave me a neck workout. Do you think he's made you harder to break? I mean, that's literally what he did. The pictures weren't great for us. They were not great.

But my neck is so sore this morning. Yeah. My neck is very sore. My jaw too, for some reason. I was working hard, real hard. Just say it's your jaw. That's a different thing though, that's unrelated. Do you think he's made you harder to break?

Man, absolutely man. Coach Herb, man, he's a smart dude, intense. Yeah. You know, he come all that as intimidating to some people, but I like that energy, man. Almost come off like one of them fullbacks that's a little throw it off in the head. Yeah.

That's going to try to knock your head off. But yeah, he a good dude, man. And he understands the body, man. Wait, so what position group is the craziest on a football team? What room is like, don't fuck with those guys? Crazy in what sense? Crazy in what sense? Just crazy in like what sense?

Just like they're a little off. Like mentally they're a little off. They got to be a little off to play that position. Maybe it's D-line. So can we do a top five? Yeah. All right, so crazy in the sense of the word. So yeah, you will have to, you will,

ideally you want your D-line to be a little off. Yeah, you want nothing to, yeah. Just get mad at nothing. Yeah. Then you want your line-line to be a little off. Yeah, you want nothing to, yeah. Just get mad at nothing. Then you want your line backers. Whether it's edge or inside. And then you want what? You want your O-line. You want your O-line.

I lowkey, I prefer the O-line to be at the top of that list. But, nowadays it don't seem like it's a lot of crazy O-Line. O-Line, they seem like they got a lot of sense. Yeah. But like back Richie and Kakito. Yeah. Throwback, yeah. You want Richie and Kakito.

Yeah, yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. That type of vibe. Nowadays, so I'll put them three. Who else you got? I mean, I would assume you want defensive backs

to be a little crazy, because they have to have confidence. You want them to be crazy, but you want them to be a little, you want them to be a controlled, kind of a controlled aggression. Yeah, yeah. You don't want them, like a safety maybe. Yeah. You want your safety to be a little throwed off.

Like, Derwin definitely got a little, he got a little bit to him. Yeah, he scares me. I like that. He one of those like that a knock your head off But uh, yeah, you can say DB's but I want to put the who I want to put in there Running back. I want to put you. Yeah, you're running back full back running back full back room in there. Yeah You gotta have the crazy kicker last

Yeah, I think yeah, I think the kicker gotta gotta be like a different type of crazy. Yeah, yeah. Delusional type of crazy. Yeah, right. Like doesn't want to talk to anyone. I can kick this from 70, 60 type crazy. Yeah. Yeah, like. I don't even know what a goal post is.

Yeah, exactly. Windy City, what? I don't care about the wind. If it's going this way, I'm kicking. So it's like that type of crazy. Yeah. Like Janakowski. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah, that's my guy. That's my guy. What was it like me and him for the first time? Man, it was unique, man. I did not know what type of dude I was gonna actually meet. I thought he was like an older guy, but Janakowski was like super cool and laid back. And yeah, he'll have something to drink for you

in the back of the plane if you wanted some. Talked to you about Poland? Yeah, the oldest coach. Yeah, yeah. I remember so talk to you about Poland I remember they brought him out one time to try a 76 yard field goal going in a halftime No, you made it. I don't think he made that one. I think that one landed like a little bit sure cuz like 76 yards That's that's crazy long. Listen. That was the only kicker. I knew that was built like a I don't even know it like a line. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, how far can you throw football? I say maybe was built like a, I don't even know, like a old one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How far can you throw a football?

I'd say maybe 67 yards. I heard that you have an unreal arm, so you played quarterback when you were a kid and your problem was you couldn't throw short passes? No, no. That's fake? Yeah, that's fake. I don't know what that's.

Yeah, you had good touch? That's what I read. I could throw a decent ball. I mean, 67 yards, that's pretty good. Like why aren't we using you in trick plays? I mean we had a play in Chicago man. I don't think we had a chance to run it. It was like Santa's Rain Day. I think that was for Keem. It was something like a long Christmas vibe with Nagy.

But we never got a chance to run it. It's almost like the Derek Henry play. Okay, so you were gonna get the ball, you were gonna get the ball, hit it off and throw it? Yeah, jump and throw it, yeah. That would have been awesome. Yeah, yeah. Matt Nagy was like looking down his play sheet and said, be you, and he was like,

I can't call the fun play. I need that. That's not me. I needed that play. No, he definitely will call him, but later on we went in situations where we can play around too much. Yeah. Tell Coach Harbaugh put something in for you. I mean I would hope so.

Yeah. I feel like I feel like he would do it so you just get to like know him obviously because you're still relatively new relationship with you guys. We love Coach Harbaugh. Yeah. He's like a brutally honest guy. Oh yeah. And he's a football guy through and through. Yeah. So I imagine that the two of you kind of get along as a veteran. It seems like that's the kind of guy that you could identify or not identify, but be like, I respect this guy because I've been around the business long enough to know that you want a guy that will give me bad news or tell me I'm not doing something right and be direct with me.

Absolutely, man. Absolutely. And that's from top to bottom, man. You could tell whenever he speaks in front of the team, it's like he's going to whatever is on that paper for him to talk about, he's not going to hold back from it. Whether somebody's late or somebody ain't doing whatever they're supposed to do,

he's going to let it be known. And that's the directness, and that's the football-ness of who he is. He always says the human body craves contact, which I think is true. But maybe not like as a veteran, maybe you get back to training camp and you're like, I don't really miss training camp, right? Yeah. I mean, for the lack of what? The lack of the meetings, but the game, the love of the game, man, I love coming out on the practice field, but talking about football all day and putting it in terms and all that, it's like, I can do without that part, let

me do the fun part. We can go play on Sundays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we had Dallas Goddard on last year, tight end for the Eagles, and he played at a small school, not like Buffalo. Buffalo plays in a real conference. They played North Dakota.

I appreciate that. That my first time here in North Dakota. Something like that, yeah. And he told a story about how when he was playing against these guys, he would go out and the DBs would be like, can you take it easy on us because you're that much bigger and stronger?

Did you ever have a moment like that in the Mac where maybe not take it easy on us, but it's like you're beating up the guys so bad. They're just like, this is, I'm going to be an accountant next year. I don't want to play against you anymore. Man, I had a weird moment. I wouldn't say it was to that extent.

It was definitely like a moment of like, what the fuck this dude just say? Yeah. It was my University of Ohio. Or Miami, Ohio. Oh no, it's Ohio University. Ohio University, yeah. Bobcats.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bobcats, yeah. And so it was maybe like a guard or a tackle. It's like, man, can we take a picture after the game? And I feel like it might be like the second quarter at the time. I'm like, what the fuck? What's going on? He's trying to kill your kindness? Yeah, it's like, nah, that's weird. time. What's going on?

He's trying to kill your kindness. Yeah. That's like, ah, that's weird. Yeah. That was weird moment. But other than that, I don't think I had too many. Yeah. So it had to feel at times it's like, no one can stop me. Oh man. That was my mindset. That's been my mindset my whole career, man. Be a grown man amongst boys. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Me too. whole career man be a grown man amongst boys yeah yeah yeah me too yeah so is it still that way like are there times when when the game feels easy to you man last

year man it was it got a lot easier just switching my mindset being around guys like Joey and my coach at the time Giff Smith just learning new things learning new nuances and things to put into my game. It simplified it that much more. And that's where I feel like you can always get better. You're getting better or you're getting worse. So we might be dumb because we watch the games on a couch on Sundays, which we watch all the games at the same time, which is hard to do.

You've never done that before. We do it every week, but we sit there, we watch, and then we come up with these theories. And we were watching the Chargers last year. And Brandon Staley, obviously, he liked to mix it up on fourth down on offense a lot. And at times, we were like, I don't know that I would like playing defense,

even though he's a defensive coach. I don't know that I'd like playing defense in that system, because you never know when you're going to get back out on the field. You don't get that much time to rest. Was that a conversation that you guys had with coach? Which is like, let us take a break sometimes. That's what a crazy and delusion come in because it was like, man, I'm riding with you coach, whatever you decide. You know what I'm saying? I know the offense is going to convert on fourth down. And if they don't, it's another chance for

us to go out there and kick their ass. That's always been my mindset. Whether they turn the ball over or back, it's another opportunity to go out there and kick their ass. And so that's where the delusion turns on when you're on the field. That's where we're wired different. Yeah.

Future Hall of Fame NFL players, where we watch and we're like, dude, we just want to rest. They're like, if you're going to make me go out there, don't send me back out on the 35 yard line. I'm going to give up a touchdown. Like, make them have to work for it. Like, let some clock tick away here, Coach. Exactly.

Oh, man. Just let us chill for a minute. That's funny, man. Chilling seems fun. Well, Cleo, this has been awesome. I have one last question. It's a Chevy.com question. Go to Chevy right now.

Chevy Silverado, best truck ever. You're not much on social media, right? No, no. So do you ever see any crazy fans on social media for you? Or is it ever weird you out? Weird in what sense? I searched. I was trying to find the weirdest tweets and I have a couple.

You can tell me if this is weird. Someone tweeted, I fucking love you Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack is my whole life. I'd die for Khalil Mack. For the record I don't want to die, but if Khalil Mack was like, Hey, you have to die so that I can live, I'd do it. Like that stuff's weird, right? Those are all my tweets

No, yeah 2018 if you're like hey cat, you got to die so I can live a bullet in my head, no problem. I appreciate it, bro. I appreciate the support, but that's fucking weird. It's ride or die. The one that says Khalil Mack is my whole life, that one is a little uncomfortable. I'll admit that. Hand up. I got a few more things going on than just you. I believe it, bro. I believe it. So do I, man. Damn, cat. That's funny, man. For the record, if somebody ever, God forbid, if you ever find yourself in a life or death situation, just tell them, hey, go kill Big G. Yeah, right. I'll take it. I'll take it. Even though you're not on the barrisse anymore,

I'll still take it. No, man. It's all love, man. I appreciate it. I definitely appreciate you guys having me on, man. Yes. Yes. It's been awesome. Definitely been a cool experience. Yeah. We're excited for this season. See what the Chargers do. And yeah, when you get into the Hall of Fame, I'll have to come to Canton. Maybe I'll introduce you.

Maybe I'll actually think about this. This would be the greatest Hall of Fame speech ever. I get up, and I'm like, I'm now presenting Cleo Mack. And then, boom, shoot myself in the head. Oh, come on, bro. You're telling me that people wouldn't remember that? Most memorable Hall of Fame induction ever. Come on man.

I might get some blood on the gold jacket. That might not be good. Yeah, we do a little cleanup. PFT will be there to clean it up. I'll clean it up. And then I'll do the eulogy before him, before you're inducted. It'll be a whole thing. It'll be great.

I think they're like, I do have one last question for you because I read somewhere, I don't know if this is true or not, I read that one of your favorite bands in the entire world is handsome So it's not handsome no, why not you say why not? Yeah, I don't even know That might be the only song Old-town road, It's been a minute. OK. It's been a minute. It might need a refresh.

Listen to it on purpose or just listen to it? Listen to it on purpose. No, I don't think I listen to it on purpose. But you taught yourself guitar, right? Yeah, I tried, man, until my finger got stuck in somebody's heel, man. Yeah. That sucks.

Yeah, that thing is gnarly. Damn, you want my finger? I'll give you mine. You sound like Joey. Dude, let me see your finger real quick. That would actually be good for a guitar. Really? Hell no. I can't bar anything, bro. Well, John Mayer played an entire concert without his index finger.

That's John Mayer, bro. That's a tough motherfucker. That's a tough motherfucker. That's grit. That's grit right there. That's a tough motherfucker. That's grit. Gritful dead. Alright, well Khalil, thank you so much. We appreciate it, man. Huge fan. No doubt, man. Thank you, man. Appreciate you guys' time. Khalil Mack was brought to you by Chevy.

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Week presented by Coors Light it is executive director of player performance for the Los Angeles Chargers coach Ben Herbert. Coach Herbs can we call you coach Herbs? Please dude yeah 99.99% of people it's Herb or coach Herb. Okay so we got to start Grit Week off with the first question. It's an easy question. How would you define grit? Your ability and willingness to do any and all things, regardless of circumstance.

That's a great answer. OK, I like that. Yeah, I love that word. And most importantly, what it represents to me, that's a good word. That's a good word. That's a good word. Okay, I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I love that word and and and most most importantly what it represents to me. Uh it's it's pretty clear. That's yeah.

That's how I see it. Yeah. Yeah. That's concise. That's to the point. Makes sense. How do you instill grit in somebody or is it something that you have? You know what I think? Certain people in their upbringing and their exposures in life, they get exposed to some things that require more of it and nurture the development of it. But I definitely believe it is something that can be developed through exposure.

And the best thing is it doesn't have to be like a like, I just think daily exposure in small doses, some days and you know, bigger doses, but just that repeated exposure, you know, and as someone's development of it, you know, starts to blossom. And then for me, you just re encourage when you see it and you see guys display it or you see a group display it. And I love to just reinforce like that's what it looks like. That's great. That's what it feels like. Please show me more of that. Wow. That's are those the words you use? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, so I got

to say I was, uh, I was doing a little research for this interview and I watched a clip of Coach Harbaugh talking about the first time he met you and how he had to avert his gaze because you locked in and saw through his soul. So I was prepped for the handshake, but even prepping myself for the handshake, you gave me a look through my soul and I had to look away. So what is that?

You just can look through someone's soul? No. You're doing it right now. I don't know what you're doing. You're doing it right now. The key for me, eye contact is powerful. I have two boys who are 10 and 13. As soon as they could really comprehend,

shaking another man's hand, or shaking anyone's hand for that matter, and in the eye contact, there's just something about the eyes. And when you're not accustomed to looking into someone's eyes when you communicate with them, it's very uncomfortable. However, you can learn and you can develop that as well. And I always tell guys, I'm not interested in trying to be this tough guy, like stare at you or, you know.

But eye contact, I'm not interested in running away with my eyes. I can't move physically. Like I tell people, you can't move physically, but you'll go somewhere else with your eyes. I prefer to just stay staring at each other right now. And then periodically you can look away if need be, you know, but yeah, it's just eye contact is just, there's something about it. Uh, I'm not, and I literally see it as I'm not interested in. I like to be right here. Yeah. Yeah. Locked in. Yeah. Locked in. And coach Harbor also called you his X factor. Um, and you know, you, you started, we were talking beforehand, your Badger, you went to Wisconsin, where's that Wisconsin, Arkansas,

and then Michigan. What like your career and learning all these things being around football so much, like what do you think that you're an X factor now? Are you feeling like, Hey, I know how to do this better than anyone else at this point. No, that's the last thing that I think. Okay. It's a incredible honor for coach to view me the way that he does. But what I do know and what I've learned over time is what I do like this moment. I'm right here right now.

And then I'll move on to the next moment. What I've done in the past, what I don't think or even, I don't let myself, what the future holds is irrelevant to me. Right here, right now, right? I'm gonna do this to the best of my ability with you guys, right? And then move on to the next thing. I don't get caught up in you're the difference or you're the reason for greatness. A team was great or you're the reason that they were terrible or

I've experienced all of those scenarios. I just I like humble and hungry, right? I'm going to coach hires me to do what I do. And and it's my responsibility to really just keep up with him. Yeah, he's the tone setter. He's the tip of the spear. It's easy to respect a guy that conducts conducts his business the way he does. And that inspires easy to respect a guy that conducts his business the way he does. And that inspires me to just be sharp every day. Yeah.

I knew you were the real deal when I was looking into like Big Cat, you know, do some research before we sat down. I looked at your social media and it still lists you as the strength and conditioning coach of the University of Michigan. And from that moment, I was like, that's a guy that's locked in on his job. That's like, I don't care about social media. Forget that nonsense. I'm right here right

now. I don't think that you've tweeted since like 2017, but again, that that's the kind of guy that I want strengthening and conditioning my players. Have you thought about changing it? No. Yeah, I haven't. To be honest, you know, I got in when I went from Wisconsin, you know, we went back to back to back Big Ten championships. We went to Arkansas. And so you get accustomed to, you know, a lot of people saying a lot of positive things about, you know, we're big, strong, physical, all these, all these different, different things.

And then we went three and nine that first year and we were not labeled that. And I got encouraged to get involved with social media and engage and do these different things. And then it just took me on a roller coaster emotionally that I was like, you know what? I prefer to not be on this emotional roller coaster. So then I just disengaged and now I, people were like, coach, you live under a rock kind of, I'm not going to be on this emotional roller coaster. So,

then I just disengaged and now I, you know, people are like, coach, you like you live under a rock kind of, you know, I have very little awareness of other, you know, things other than what people put in front of me. I just kind of stay in

my own world, you know, here, you find me in the room, you find me at, you know, my current address. That's that's about That's about the extent of it. That's good though. I was listening to a podcast that you did with the guys here and they asked what you do in your spare time for fun

and your initial answer was clean. You clean stuff. Yeah, so there's something about people that get it. There's people out there that they just enjoy doing that. I love taking something from, if it's disorganized or messy, if it's mine, I'm not interested in doing it, doing it for you guys. Right. But if it's mine, I just, uh, I enjoy, I couldn't tell you why. Yeah. Yeah. All of those things. And so I find myself when I, you know, it's just a peaceful place for me. You know? Yeah., and you I also heard that so this new facility is incredible

Yeah, are you worried at all that it's too nice for what you want to do? No, what's funny is like you look like if you go over we got some plates and you'll find some rust You'll find a little okay good. You'll find a little rust here and there but yeah, whether it's a This or you know, you could put us in a back alley somewhere, like we're gonna conduct our business the same way. You know, we're gonna train, we're gonna do things how we do them. Yeah. The environment. Yeah, it's just a beautiful environment. We take

a lot of pride in that. But no, to work how we work, the way we work, the consistency we work with is that's going to take place regardless of where we are. Yeah, because I heard you fell in love with a shop vac that you have to the store got a shop vac. Yeah. And now you just want to shop back everything, which I understand. I thought that's cool. I was versatile. It's the most versatile tool out there. You know, every, every time a guy that's been on

my staff, like they become a homeowner, that's my favorite gift to give is shop. I had a similar experience with a power washer. You get a power washer, then all of a sudden you want to power wash everything. It's so satisfying. Yeah. Like you said, there's like small feeling of accomplishment. You feel like you've done something. Yeah. I'm ready to move. Yeah. It's I mean, it's the shop vac is gritty. It is because you don't have to like you can I mean, pretty much anything, you know, you can, you can suck up with

the shop. You could say I love the versatility and I love the grit factor of the shop. The shop back. Yeah. So, so coming to the NFL, is it, how does your job change when you, you know, you've spent all this time in college, you're taking 17 year old kids, building them into men. Now you got a bunch of men. Is it like, have you noticed that, hey, I gotta approach this differently? Or is it, this is my system

and we'll figure it out going forward? Yeah, the biggest thing is, it's a lot more similar than it is different. There are some nuances that are different. The maturity of the population you work with is obviously different, but the desire, guys coming into college as freshmen, guys are in college, a high percentage of them, they're hell bent on getting better and improving. Same here, regardless, at least this roster, the guys that we have, regardless of how much money they make or we're not where they fall in that category,

they want to get better. And if you can help them do that, it's very important to them. They're very responsive to that. And the process, the system, the way we do things, our evaluation process, making sure, and I've told guys, this isn't come in, let's get a workout. We're going to train. It's very different. And so training is very intentional. What we're going to do, why we're going to do it. And being able to build that rapport and that relationship with these guys is is of the utmost importance because they've been doing it. They have a lot of them have different experiences, you know, doing different things. But if you relate and communicate to them and in the what I view as the appropriate way, they've been they've been great. Yeah. Yeah. So as somebody that's in charge of building strength,

when you go into every off season, I assume that you tweak things, right? You always try to get better. You try to improve. How do you determine what's going to change year over year in a strength program, when maybe you've been there for a while? Maybe you know what works.

How do you figure out, OK, this is a missing piece that we need to add on and incorporate next season? You know what the unique thing is every year, you don't know necessarily until these opportunities present themselves, what is going to be needed, right? Because each year there's different individuals that make up the team, the mentality and the makeup of the team, the culture, so to speak, the personality that the group has, it changes. And so if you're going to say, how are we going to improve the capability of the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder? There's a specific cuff sequence that we do.

It's what we do. Where there's the most versatility is things that involve consistency, things that involve mentality, because there's certain things that certain individuals need and certain teams need that other teams didn't. And then it's always figuring out what range of motion and tissue and joint, flexibility, mobility, strength and power movement traits that stuff's relatively easy It's the things those are all objective. We measure We test We measure we test right the guys all have that data But it's these other factors that play a significant role the mentality talk about grit

Consistency all of these things play a significant role. And those are the things that change because when you have a group or a team that has that, you don't need as much of it, right? Things to help with that. And you have some teams that don't have that. Hey, coach, what do we got today? Stop asking me that. Why do you care what we have? Right? Right. It doesn't matter what we have. The only thing that matters is how you're going to do what we have. Right. You know, so these type of that's what one big cue, they start asking like, what's the schedule? What are we doing?

They want to know, oh, so you can prepare yourself for what's to come. Right. And then I'll tell them the, I'll just make up just some random sequence that they, oh, okay, cool. Sounds good. And then it's not that. In fact, it's the exact opposite. And then you can completely desensitize them. And that's one of the- Because that is a very natural thing when you're like, I'm about to do something that sucks

I want to know how bad it's gonna suck and then you can prepare yourself like all right. I gotta go hard here I gotta go a little softer here gotta go That's smart that you keep them on their toes you you in your introductory press conference here I loved it. You said that we're not building strength. We're making them harder to break How do you make someone harder to break? Could you make us harder to break? 100 percent. Yes guaranteed because we break easy. No, this is this is the key making them harder to break. How do you make someone harder to break? Could you make us harder to break? 100%. Yes. Guaranteed.

Because we break easy. No, this is the key. And here's an exact, there's the way I, when the guys, when we talk through it, okay? So, and I referenced in my opening press conference, neck training. So in my opinion,

when your neck is stronger in flexion, when you press forward or an extension, when you press back, and we side bend as well, when your neck is stronger and you strike something or get struck, in my opinion, you're going to be able to dissipate that force more effectively, which is going to decrease the likelihood of the brain coming in contact with the skull. Now can it and does it still happen? Yes it does but if I have the choice oh I'm going to go to great lengths to make sure we are as effective as we can be at getting your neck strong inflection and extension. Same thing with the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder. If you want a strong stable shoulder would you prefer all four were strong, three of the four, two, one or none of them. So right away okay Coach Herb

how you gonna make us harder to break? I'll take you in, I'll literally show you a neck sequence, teach it to you, let you feel it, take you through a four-part cuff sequence. You guys could do those things easily and you could do the multiple times a week. And then you could be in multiple different situations where that could benefit you, right? And for the guys, things happen. But when we look at what we're gonna program and what we're gonna

administer to them, that's how I view making them and helping them become harder to break is making sure that certain areas of the body just are more equipped to tolerate stress better. We need you to make a harder to break for podcasters. So it's stuff like can you eat you know of 10 buffalo wings and then have a Dairy Queen blizzard? Will your legs fall asleep when you're taking a shit? Like that, we need that type, forget the neck. We just need, we need like- How loud can you scream at your mom

when she comes down to the basement? Yeah, yeah. Not now, recording. Can you watch football on six TVs at the same time? Yeah. Are we harder to break? That's what we need. You need to be a for that. You guys are out. You're outside of my world. Yeah. Yeah. I think you're on the right to see you in our world for what you would hate.

You would hate it. Oh my God. You would hate it. So you got a good point about the, about the neck though. I feel like woodpeckers, what do they do all day? They slam their head against a tree. They got strong necks. They don't get CTE. They don't get concussions. Yeah. They got to stabilize muscles right there. How long would a, uh, would a neck sequence for guys like us, how long would that take to take you through? Uh, we call it a four part neck sequence, four way neck sequence. I mean, it'd probably take me, uh, two minutes, two and a half minutes to take you through it and you find out how weak we are. Well, I would know as soon as I put my hands. I we're gonna do that after this

Yeah, I would I would know and then the key is I'm only interested. I'm not gonna give you more than you can handle There's no benefit to give you too much pressure. No good too little No good. I'm gonna get full range and you're gonna work, right? I'm gonna let you get the range that you need to get, but I'm going to make you earn it. And at the end, you'll go, I 100% guarantee you'll go, Oh, that's what he's talking about. Yeah, yeah. It's you'll love it. Okay, we're going to do that after this. Yeah. So the other thing, I love how you refer to it as cold water, but you love the ice

ice bath. How long do you stay in? I just got asked this not too long ago, 10 to 15 minutes. And what temperature? I don't care. It could be 39, 47, 52, you know? Cold water. Yeah, whatever it is. Like, hey, how cold is this?

No, that's too cold or too, I'm gonna to get in it. I'm going to sit in there, you know, up to my neck for 10 to 15 minutes. And the first four to five, I'm in there. Just you say the three of us are in there. We're up and I'd say, Hey, just get to the six, seven minute mark and everything starts to numb out. And then you got another, you know, however long we decide to stay in there. But then it's, you know, you're thought out, or excuse me, you're numb. So yeah, and then I always say,

then get out, put a hoodie and some sweats on, let your body just thaw out naturally, and then shower after. I think you would have survived the Titanic. That's a very long amount of time. Like just sit in there six minutes until you get numb and then you would have survived the Titanic. That's yeah, a very long amount of time like just to sit in there six minutes until you get numb and then you won't feel it anymore. I got a crazy I got to try the the cold tub situation,

but I heard it increases a bunch of stuff in your body. It increases like all the good stuff all the good brain. I don't even know what they call them, but it gives you like the serotonin the dopamine or whatever, but you do it. I'm guessing primarily for like inflammation stuff. Yeah. you know, you can call them but it gives you like the serotonin, the dopamine or whatever but you do it. I'm guessing primarily for like inflammation stuff. Yeah and I said, you know when

I got asked about it last time, just joints makes my joints feel incredible. Yeah. Uh and then if you ever want, I was talking to one of the players about it the other day. If you want to and you you may already know this, if you've ever just jumped in cold water, like sitting in it, get in, just sit in it for, just a few seconds and then get out, that's one thing.

You wanna wake up and it's all based on the sensory receptors, the amount of sensory receptors you have in your head. When you get in, you drop under, you come out, it's instant. You want an instant wake up? Yeah. Yeah. Are you allowed to eat in the cold tub? You can eat, drink, and you okay. Yeah. Just get in and relax. It's cold water. Yeah. Let's do it. I'll have a nice like soup dinner, hot soup in the cold tub. Yeah. Form me

from the inside out. One of my favorite pictures ever and I texted them after I saw it. JJ and my favorite pictures ever and I texted him after I saw it. JJ and TJ are they had cut a hole. You know and they're sitting in their pond. Yeah. Yeah. Any ice like you know, just hanging out. Do first thing in the morning

instead of a shower, just cold, just cold water wakes you right up. Cool. II don't prefer it first thing in the morning but if you yeah you get in if you took a you could even start hot and then just the last say 60 seconds or 20 seconds before you get out, turn that thing to cold and

you'll oh it'll it'll bring you to life real quick. What time are you waking up these days? It depends on the day. I love this is another thing they said, what do you love to do? I love to sleep. I don't know if you've said what do you love to do? I love to sleep. I don't know if you've ever met someone that enjoys sleeping more than I do. However, for

25 years, I usually will get up between three and five. That's insane. That's crazy. How do you go to sleep? Usually 839 930. some nights, you know, if we're, you know, we're gonna, I'm gonna hang out, you know, with my wife and boys a little bit. Clean some stuff, get the shop back out, go crazy. But I've never, I've never enjoyed waking up early. I love to sleep. And when I get downtime, I'll sleep as long as I can.

Yeah. But, but I'm, you know, it's, once I get rolling, then it's good. But I wake up when the day, you know, based on what the daily demands are. Yeah. Yeah, so if you wake up at three in the morning and you don't like to wake up early,

that's like, you're instilling grit every single day. 100%. And I say, you know how there's people that put their feet on the ground in the morning and they're like, I'm ready to have a great day today. Yeah, that's not me. Yeah. Yeah. I wake up and it's like, uh, put their feet on the ground in the morning and they're like, I'm ready to have a great day today. Yeah, that's not me. Yeah. Yeah. I wake up and it's like how much coffee no coffee. First thing I do is get in the shower cold hot to start and then I'll usually finish not

always but I'll finish with a you know, 10 to 15 second little cold burst. Yeah, wake you up. Yeah. Yeah. What do you do between the hours of like 3.30 and 6 or 6.30 when everyone else gets to work? Well, so it depends on what the day brings. What time if we have a staff meeting or what time we're going to train. Usually because of classes in college, there is you have early morning training session or multiple because of the class demands. Here it's different,

but whatever it may be that needs to be done, that's what we're doing. Yeah. So when you're watching your team out there, do you get extra pride out of watching them run the football? I'm thinking even Michigan versus Penn State this year. Incredible. There's no pass in the second half. Is that like, is that just the pinnacle for you watching them just absolutely beat down another team physically? There's there's no better feeling. It's it's incredible. And I would prefer like those type of scenarios. Uh, it's

incredible. And I learned it at Wisconsin. Yeah, when I got there as a player and what we took pride in doing and then it really became instilled in me to run and pound a rock. Yeah, it's amazing. Take the will of the other team. Yeah, it was and to do it, you know, like we did it this year, especially that Penn State game. Yeah. It was no better feeling. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's a match made in heaven with Harbaugh because he has famous times. I think there was a Stanford.

Was it Stanford versus Oklahoma State in a bowl game? And he ran the same run play like 13 times in a row down the field. It's just like, you can't stop it. That has to be the best. That's like the peak of just like man football. Yeah. As I as I see it, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like you can't stop it. That has to be the best. That's like the peak of just like man football. Yeah. As I as I see it, I love it. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. And there's nothing there's nothing you can do to stop it. Has that ever happened against a team that you've been associated with?

Where it was happening to you? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Wisconsin versus Michigan in 2019 maybe in Camp Randall. That was a big one. Yes. Yeah. That did not feel that did not feel good. Wisconsin versus Michigan in 2019 maybe in Camp Randall. That was a big one. Yes. Yeah, we ran the ball down your throat. That did not feel good. That did not feel good.

Yeah. Those, what I take from those, it makes you feel certain. What it does is it inspires you to, you had to get back to work. You know, and that's why I say humble. It's, I've been on both sides of it and I prefer, fortunately I've been on the good side a lot more than the bad side,

but I know how both sides feel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I noticed that one of your favorite pieces of workout equipment is just big tires. You buy a lot of big tires. What is it about tires? Like tire flipping, of big tires. What is about tires like tire flipping, tire pulling? What is about tires that make them such a great piece of workout equipment?

So it used to be the tire. And I had the most insane collection of tires, we named them. We had the most insane collection of tires. I mean, 15 different sizes and shapes. Now we have finisher flip sleds. The beauty of the finisher flip sled is the position that it puts the guys, they're lower back in and you don't have to grab it here. You can grab it in this way and it stresses the bicep differently. So posturally it puts them in a better position, but your ability to get triple extension and to develop strength and power. That is my new. Yeah, I don't even you could. It's similar to a tire

flip, but it's I wouldn't even disrespect the flip sled by saying it's that it's it's its own beast and it's one of if not my favorite tools. That thing is insane. That's another thing you guys I'll teach you how to use the finish of flip sled. Incredible tool. So how would you go about naming your tires? Kind of glossed over that one. You know what, just my staff,

we would just look at the tire and that looks like, and we would just throw names out there and then, you know what I mean, bat around, no. Yeah, we literally, we would just go down the line and really just banter back and forth about what we thought would be the best name, just do his name and tires. Yeah. What's it look like? And that's that's what we would go with.

What about what about having the plates, everything perfect? Well, what's that about where you said that in your introductory press conference, every plate is going to be exactly where it needs to be. Nothing just like laying around. Is that just a mentality of you got to take care of your surroundings? It's just how it's that. It's also just how we practice attention to detail. And it often, sometimes people don't, it's not going to directly correlate and guarantee you're going to be successful. But what it is an effective tool to me is practicing your attention to detail.

You want your footwork to be a certain way. You want when you strike something, right? All these things in your game, you know, you're, there's so many different details that matter. That's just how we practice attention to detail. I just little cues that I'll use. One, I take tremendous pride in the space. Yeah. And I like things neat and clean.

So that just is what it is. But in terms of when you want how we train, when I teach you guys, when we do the neck or I teach you posturally, I don't want you, I'm not gonna put your lower back in a bad position or allow you to do it in a way that's gonna hurt you. Right. Right. So these details and how you execute all of these things

are paramount because if technically, if you're not sound technically, in my opinion, then you increase the likelihood of injury in a training environment. So it's just the detail. detail. And then how do we practice it? And and that's just that goes hand in hand with just respect we have for the space to do the little things, right? The big things take care of themselves, that sort of thing. Along those lines. Yeah. So who is the you've

coached a lot of really strong players and they've become strong as you've coached them. Who's the strongest guy you've ever worked with? The key is strongest in what? Because, so if you said Turkish getup, if you guys know what a Turkish getup is, okay. And I describe that to the guys as it's a movement that challenges and stimulates the body from the tip of the finger when your arms extended from the tip of your finger to the tip of your toes. It's holding a bar and being down in the- It could be a dumbbell.

It could be a bar. And standing up with it over your head, right? Standing up with it and then coming down with it as well. Chris Jenkins, DTAC with Michigan, did it with a 170 pound dumbbell. And it was silky smooth. I mean, it was incredible. You can see when a guy's out of control

and he's all, and you can see when he's rock solid. Aiden Hutchinson had did it with, he had a bar and he had 45 pound plates on each side with no collar. Because if the wrist, it's doing it with a two and a half on each side is one thing. Okay, if the plate slides off, if it's not perfectly stable, if the plate slides off,

big deal, they can still stabilize it. If a 45 pound plate slides off one end, the other side, it's going the wrong way quickly. So the demand, I don't like things that are high reward and high risk. My favorite things are things that are high reward, low to no risk. However, there's a sliding scale with every movement I choose for the guys. But when Hutch was getting ready to do that, he literally started with a bar,

then a bar and two and a half on each side, fives, and he worked his way up. I knew that if I captured that, it would just give him, it's another feather in his cap of what a freak show he was and what a freak show he is. Chris Jenkins, that, you know, Mozzie Smith, he took, he took 325.

I mean, he hit it for 20 reps. He went up the Plow stairs. We got Kenneth Grant, 360 pound, the detac, what it ran down that back from Penn State. He went up to we had a plow stairs at Michigan. He went up at 360 pounds. He went up those in like 279, 2.79 seconds. Lower body Travis Frederick played center for us at Wisconsin.

Incredible. And you could go on down the line, you know, the things that you see guys do over the years. Yeah, but those are those are some of them. Yeah. Did you a couple Wisconsin questions? One, the TCU Rose Bowl game? Was there any talk afterwards? We should have run John Claymore. That one hurt. Yeah, that one hurt. That one hurt. I was sitting right in the sideline for the two point conversion failed. Yeah, that one hurt. That one hurt. I was sitting right in the sideline where the two-point conversion failed.

Yeah. That was bad. John Clay was a beast in that second half. Yeah, beast. You know what, I can't remember what the post-game conversations were or weren't, but yeah, I mean, when we gave him the ball, it usually worked out well for us.

Just truck people. Then Russ did spike the ball in time, you'd agree, against Oregon. In my opinion. Yes, okay. And then was there any talk when you left Wisconsin for Arkansas, was there any conversation about like,

we're running out of Watt brothers and there's no more coming? We gotta get outta here before we run out? You know what, I had had JJ I had Derek and You know over the years, you know, I See TJ here and there I Unfortunately never got to coach him. But yeah, then then he came I had left and then yeah, you wish there was Keep going you thought for a while. There's like every year is gonna be another one brother. We're good. No doubt

Yeah, mom and dad like hey, maybe get back in bed thought for a while there was like every year is going to be another white brother. We're good. No doubt. Yeah. Yeah. Mom and dad like, hey, maybe get back in the bedroom. Think about the future of the football. Yeah, we just need all their kids to go to Wisconsin. That's all I care would be amazing. Sign them up. Yeah, I got a real scientific question for you. What is the best lifting music? Oh, we'll see. Now this is, when it comes to music, I usually it's the vibe of the guys.

Fortunately for me, we could put, I mean, you could put anything on there. I love old school, like you throw the Rocky IV soundtrack on and that's a go-to, but it can be Metallica, it can be heavy metal, it can be any type of hip-hop. Whatever, whatever the guys are feeling and they're going to vibe to that's that's what it is some days and it's all over the map. Fortunately, I love I love it all and I've heard it all 25 years spent in a weight room. I've, you know, heard everything and I fortunately enjoy everything.

Yeah. You have a raw dog in the gym, you go in there, no music, no headphones? Other days, no music. And I'm just looking for someone to be like, hey, Coach R, where's the music? And I go, yo, you need the music? Or we'll play, we've played Barney. And there's some guys are so focused on like the music. They stop worrying about the music and worry about, you know, those are some of the. Mind tricks. Yeah, we'll use some of those tools too. From a mentality standpoint.

There's no music and waiting for the first guy to ask you where the music's at. Some days we'll take a horn and it just, and just repeatedly and they're so like what hey, you know, just stop stop focusing on get them to focus on the wrong thing. Yeah, and they will be they do become desensitized. I promise you. Yeah, here's where you're working with when you're

talking to us in terms of grit level. There have been times I've gone to the gym realized I forgot my headphones and then I'm like, well, I can't work out today. And then I just leave. Yeah. You'd be disgusted by us. Yeah. Yeah. It's not. That's we have certain, certain facets, you know, doing our job. But in terms of like working out, we don't have a lot of grit. So we need that. And it's not all created equal. I mean, you have to do your job is the most important. So whatever you have to do, right, to get yourself where you need to be. Yeah. I'm not like I'm in a working environment. My level of urgency is very high. However, when I leave, I tell the guys when I leave, I'm one of the most chill, laid back, you know what I mean?

Just because what do I need urgency for when we're, you know, just hanging out? Yeah. You have to time it appropriately. And like you said, when we're working, we have it, which that's when you need it. Yeah. And when you're not working,

you know, you can be selective in a workout. You don't have your headphones. You don't feel like training. Okay, that's't have your headphones, you don't feel like training. Okay, that's a lot different thing. You don't feel like doing a show. You gotta get your mind right. You're gonna get your mind right. Yeah, we don't miss shows. That's a fact.

I broke my foot. I did a podcast that day. Big Cat got bit by a dog. Did a podcast. Did a podcast. There you go. No problem. Yeah. Right through it.

That's grit. Yeah. That is grit. A lot of people calling dog bite that day. They'd be like, can't do it. Yeah. Rab through it. That's grit. Yeah, that is grit. People calling calling dog bite that day. Yeah, can't do it Yeah, ravey shots. No We got that grit. All right. Well coach herbs has been awesome. I got one last question Chevy question Chevy comm go check it out Chevy Silverado best truck out there Coach Harbaugh who were we love we're're good friends with, do you train him?

Does he ask you like, hey, Coach Herbs, I need a formula, you need to give me everything? Are you actively training him still? Coach Harbaugh does not, Coach Harbaugh just walks into the room and he's ready to train. You know it, Coach, you ready to roll? He does not ever, never. What are we doing today?

How much? He just goes and he attacks and he does everything that the guys, I mean, he sled drags. He flips sleds. He does it all. He reversed bear crawls like we had a ramp at Michigan. He would reverse bear crawl. All of it. Eats it up. I love that. E I love that. I love that. And he does it all in his khakis, right? A lot of times, whatever he walks into weight room, whatever he's shows up wearing, that's what he trains in. Yeah. Hey, I got to go and change. And no, he just coach you ready to roll and he give you that nod, you know, yep. And then he just, yeah, he's the grittiest, yeah, of the gritty. Yeah, yeah.

I believe it. When you first interviewed with him, did you know during the interview, you're like, I can work with this guy. This is going really well. You know what, when he decided that, you know, he brought me into Michigan to interview, and then I just, I hadn't met coach or been around them.

So I did a little background. And then you just, some of the stories and some of the things you hear, and then some of the people that had called me, you know, you're going to Michigan coach. And then just these things you hear, I came to realize quick, like the type of mentality, you know, that he had.

And that's why, I mean was it was the perfect fit. Yeah, yeah. It's worked out well. Yeah. I mean, I'm pumped just listening to you talk. I kind of want to just move out here and have you train me. But it wouldn't go well. I'd break in a second. Actually, we might break you. Yeah. Maybe if you spent one day with us, we would probably break your will.

You'd be like, I got to get out of here. This is terrible. If you spent one day with us, we would probably break your will. You'd be like, I got to get out of here. This is terrible. These guys are too easy to break. I'm broken. Yeah. They've been sitting on the couch for so long. But yeah, that's it.

It was awesome to have you on. Yeah. I appreciate it. Best of luck this year. X Factor. And let's do this neck test. Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Pft your fire fest of the week my fire fest of the week. It's fantasy football related We are in a fantasy league at CJ McCollum's, he calls it the high rollers league and Jerry O'Connell manages our team every year. Um, but in years past, I've kind of been the one that's on the group chat with the league. And then I text Jerry on the side and tell him what's happening. Um, this year I decided it's time to have Jerry in the mix. Oh no. So yesterday I had a Jerry O'Connell to the fantasy football group chat. Uh, C.J. McCollum, uh, turtle from entourage, Julius Reynolds. There's a few others that I'm, I'm not naming right now, but, uh, it was like

throwing a bomb into that group chat. Yeah, I'd imagine. So I brought him in there, added his number. First thing that happens, Jerry texts them. And I'm not going to be reading things out of the group. I'm not going to make a habit out of reading things out of the group chat. But for the intro, I think I think this deserves a little bit of discussion. Jerry just comes out and says, Hey guys, Jerry O'Connell here. And the group chat turned green. Oh yeah, he's got the android. Out of the 12 people that were in there, he was the first non-iphone user.

Oh, he ruined it. And then everybody started commenting how he turned the chat green. And they were booing him, and it was a tough start. And then Jerry says, hey everybody, Jerry with the android. I came in second two years ago when Demar went down. Prayers for Demar and also Ukraine. And then nobody responded. And then Jerry, like two hours later says, hey fellas, just so you can get to know me,

here's a link to my IMDB. And then he posted a link to his own IMDB in the group chat. And he said, go ahead, ask me anything. And nobody really replied. I think Turtle said Mr. Bing Bong back to him. And then Jerry said, yeah, Mr. Bing Bong, I don't know anyone on this feed, anyone from the mainstream media on here just want to know how raw I can get. And then no one's responding to that.

So I've really mixed things up. He's going to add some excitement to the fancy group chat. He's coming in hot. I expect nothing less from Jerry. But we have to have him on to talk us through what a strategy is going to be. Last year it didn't work out so well. Turning a group chat green is just unforgivable. Yeah.

So now obviously I'm to blame for doing doing that. Yeah. And Jerry, get a fucking iPhone, dude. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the group chat. But I think you'll enjoy having Jerry in there. Give him a chance. Yeah. Geez. Now I'm pretty sure they started a second. Oh, for sure. Just minus Jerry. Yeah. Jerry's going to be coming into Chicago last week of August. We get our full fantasy preview. Very excited for that. I hope that this just turns into Jerry just just talking to the guys and nobody ever responding. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, like this is mental warfare on our part. Yeah. We haven't one year's past Jerry's kind of he's knocking

them off balance right now. He's going to get them to a point where they're just going to want to do like do whatever trade with Jerry. Just get them off your back. It's kind of like negotiating against Marlins Man. Yeah. Marlins Man has sent me some updates recently. How's he doing? With his schedule. He's doing great.

Well, I'll tell you. How are his cats? Let me tell you. OK. I feel like we haven't gotten a Marlins Man cat update in a while. OK. Let's see. All right, last text see. All right. Last text from Marlon Mendes. Well, I'm going tonight

to Chicago for Saturday Night Baseball. I think last one with no football or hockey or basketball. That was when we were in Grit Week. And then he just sent me eight cities in two days, Seattle, Newark, Albany, Saratoga Springs, Boston yesterday, Boston and New York to Milwaukee to Chicago today. So when he says Newark in there, is he just talking about the airport? I think so, and then yesterday I did not open this. It was just a Instagram reel of,

oh, I think it's just Manny's Deli in Chicago. That's cool. Yeah, I mean, I know the place. Oh no, it's Mench's Delicatessen, so it's just a bunch of sandwiches. Which credit to him, because usually when you open up an Instagram Reel, it could just be titties. It usually is, especially with Jerry.

With Jerry or Marlins. Yes. We should put them on a chat together, and they're both Android. Yes, yes, I like that. Wow. Also, Marlins Man, please, for the love of God, we need an update on your cats.

I want to know how your giant cats are doing. Yeah, let us know about those pussies. Okay, my fire fest. I have two one. I hate that. I'm gonna say this because Well, he's probably not gonna listen. I do miss Hank every time he's out as much as we give him shit I do like that is it's empty right now It's also it comes from a place of jealousy that Hank has gotten to do so much cool stuff this summer Well, I don't know if I'd count this as he's ringing a bell. Yeah, but he loves that fucking lighthouse Yeah, I just I miss him. I miss him So I hope he doesn't hear this part that I genuinely miss him whenever he's out my miss him

I think he did not bad in Mount Rushmore today actually Yeah, I think his movie quotes. Yeah, I think he did not bad Yeah, it's gonna be a fight. We have six left after today and congrats to Max Max. You clenched good job Max You didn't clench first, right? But you clench not last Yeah, that's what's important. Donnie's making meatballs right now. He keeps telling me to come eat them Okay, that's good fire for us. We'll wrap up soon My other fire fest is my wife and an oldest were out of town for a couple days

and so I was in charge of the two youngest and I did okay, but I quickly realized that like, I have these moments where I'm like, oh, I'm an adult, I'm clean, I'm not like I used to be. One, my house just went right back to like my college apartment. There was just shit everywhere, boxes everywhere, just not opening the... She came home and she was just like, did you check the mail?

And I was like, ah, mail. That's the one thing. Came in with like a huge stack. And then there was one night where I was doing dinner with my two youngest and halfway through dinner I realized that I just had them both eating off paper towels and I had just not given them plates. That works. So yeah, that was one of those moments where like,

dude, what are you doing? Just get the fucking plates out. But Spin Zone. That's how I eat, I eat over the sink, I eat over the trash. But Spin Zone, some of the most memorable times of my childhood bonding with my dad were when my mom would leave town and then she'd come back

and that like, those two hours before she got, we would all spend time just like undoing all the damage that we did to two hours before she got yeah we would all spend time just like undoing all the damage we did to the house before she got back and it was fun yeah and we ran we ran we ran the the the same play we ran chicken nuggets mac and cheese yeah chicken nuggets mac and cheese run it again yeah it just basically like do it again do it again uh okay hui max needs these meatballs real bad. No, Donnie just gave me a plate. Oh, he did? Okay. One bite review.

Wait, are you holding the meatballs right now? Yeah, he didn't give me a fork, which is... Just use your hand. Yeah, just dive in there. What do you think, Max? Really good meatball. Really good. Oh, that's so gross. That's a nasty sound. It sounds juicy though.

Smells great. Yeah. My fire fest. So, I got a new place. It's a walking distance from work. Everything is great. Love it. So, the roommates are a little interesting.

And so the one guy, very nice, showed me around the place, I think his name was Elio? Eli, something like that. Eli or Elio? Elio, yeah. It was like the E. Just call me, Big E. Yeah, yeah, E is smaller than me. Yeah, but that's funny.

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Big E. Yeah, I'll try it. Okay. And then, he's funny. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Big E. Yeah, I'll try it. Okay, and then He's a great guy awesome the other guy Didn't say a word when I walked by him in the kitchen I had a little I had to grab a Pepsi zero sugar and I went in there when I was gonna say hi to him But then we looked at each other and he didn't say anything. So that's in your kitchen apartment.

Yeah. So that scared me. And I was like, I'm not going to say anything. So then I just got my stuff and I left. Do you guys share your kitchen and a living room? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he has a cat. No. Oh, where'd that come from? I don't know. I thought I saw something about a cat or a dog in your. There's a chick who lives upstairs.

OK, different apartment with a dog. But what happened was that our front doors are the same so like oh, yeah Yeah, so so she was coming down as I was coming in so that confused me as I like as like you know What's going on here, but that's a different apartment her and who has a dog Did you pet the dog did meet a dog nice dog nice dog? Yeah, very nice dog No, I bet it it came off to me. I bet you know, what kind of dog it was a pit bull Oh, yeah, what was the name of the dog? I don't I don't know I didn't get the name of the dog

I don't know I don't know the girl because well if you find out the dog's name Then you just say hi to the dog every time she and the dog walk past. Yeah. Yeah never acknowledge her Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah exactly. All right. So this other guy you you've got a roommate that you Yeah, yeah, exactly. All right. So this other guy you you've got a roommate that you Stood in a kitchen your kitchen together and did not say a single word. That's it. It was that's I mean now You can never talk to no, you know, that's what I was that was the moment. That was it Yeah, you can never see was he was cooking and watching a show at the time. What's okay? I don't I didn't stay around that it was it looked like something that was more live than like an actual like setting like it

Looked like a sporting event live, but it wasn't like it felt out of a gainy revive It didn't have a TV show but you watch sports. No, I did it look like sports. It didn't look like American sports That's what that's what threw me off. So I just assumed this person American. No, okay So that's why I don't speak English So I heard him on the phone and they speak fluent English. Okay, it's fluent It could be smart to say they get the but if you walk past and you don't know Like if they're watching something live, you don't stop. You don't talk to them. That's kind of a good move Maybe he didn't want to be interrupted. Yeah, so I I think I played it right, but I also don't know if I did you got to wait till he wears some sort of sports

Merchandise like a hat of a team or a shirt of a team and then you strike up the Congress also just to clarify You did not play it right, but playing it right from here on out means you can never speak to them What about Eli Eli you can never speak to them. What about Eli? Eli, you can. Okay, cool. But if you miss the first moment to talk to a roommate in a kitchen, it's over. That's fair. That's what it felt like. It's over.

That moment is gone. He missed the opportunity to talk to you, though. Yeah. Think about it that way. Yeah. That's what I like to see it as. He's probably on a podcast right now saying, I think I screwed things up with my new roommate Huey. Yeah. Could you imagine? Yeah. But I also have my own bathroom, so

I don't have to like interact. Oh wow, look at you, fancy boy. Yeah, Eli told me I had the nicest room. Oh. He says that to everyone. Sounds like a real straight shooter. So yeah, I mean, so I don't have to, I really don't have to even like try to interact. But yesterday I was doing laundry and Twice were like the second I closed my door in of my room. I heard a door of the other room. Oh He just does it he doesn't want anything to do with you. Yeah, it's probably for the best. You don't know Yeah, it sounds like he's he's sending some pretty strong signals. Yeah, like hey, I'm doing my own thing over here I don't want any part of this. That happens in work. Like when we got when we got bigger and

bigger as a company, like if you see someone and it's like the first time you see him and you don't talk to him, like that's it. Yeah, you know, like you're just that's it. Until someone maybe formally introduces you but you just missed that moment. Or if you see that you don't want to be the guy who's like, Hey, do you live here? Yeah, like, dude, you know, I live here. You saw me yesterday and say anything if you see somebody the guy who's like, Hey, do you live here? Yeah. Like, dude, you know I live here. You saw me yesterday. You didn't say anything.

If you see somebody at work and you say, Hey, are you new here? And they're like, No, I've been here three months. Right. Yeah, you can't risk that. Yeah. You can't risk that. All right.

So it's over. Good show, boys. Let's do some numbers. 8. 20. 56. 74. Did you want me to say 20 today today I wanted you to say whatever you

wanted to say can you see me one of those meatballs yep three 99 pug 21 Is that 99? Yep. God damn it. God damn it, Pug. He's the champion. He's the champion. The guy just does it.

That's all he does. That's five. That's five? That's five? Oh my God, Pug. You are the champion. Max, have you thought about maybe stealing Pug's number? Pug did offer it up last night.

Oh, you offered it to Max several times. Oh no. That should be offered to PFT since he's never gotten the number. No, you've never gotten a lottery. He's never gotten the number. I've gotten the number. PFT hasn't gotten any. We're talking about the lottery ball. I can't hear you. Lottery ball. Pug has my headphones. Pug, you offered that to him last night and he declined. It's been offered several times. Oh, I'll tell you what. If Pug had offered me. Offered to PFT. I don't want to Night and he declined It's been offered several times Pug it offered be offered to be FT. I don't want offer to offer it to him Pft, would you like 99? You're goddamn right? I would yeah fucking right. I want 99 Pugs Just gonna win with another number. Yeah, he will pug. Do you want 20?

I might just switch to 98. Okay 20. I might just switch to 98. Okay. Just go down the wall. Work my way down. Yeah, you're goddamn right. I want 99. 99's hot.

Hell yes. Actually, pug might just be hot. Let's do one more. This counts. This counts. 99 pug. 56. 72.

98 pug. 21. He's gonna get it again. Seven. Damn. Can you imagine if that was eight? That would have been brutal. Oh god. Alright, love you guys. I'm talking away, I'm the one I can say I'd say it anyway Today isn't my day, but the fighting I'm gonna be dead, I'm gonna be dead I'm gonna be dead, I'm gonna be dead

I'm gonna be dead, I'm gonna be dead I'm gonna be dead, I'm gonna be dead I'm gonna be dead, I'm not the same, I won't say it's about me It's over a little late, slowly learning that life is okay I'll be gone I'll be gone I'll keep you warm And I'll stay on tonight Please don't sing If you know I won't

Just play that melody the way You're all the things I've got to remember Take me home Take me home Take me home I'll be gone Take me home Take me home Take on me

I am ready now And I'm ready to be Take on me, take on me, take on me