Pardon My Take - Kyle Long In Studio, 1 Question With Blake Bortles, CFB Talk + Bring Your LunchPail With Jersey Jerry

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

Deebo Samuel is the best and we recap MNF and the Niners being back (00:02:22-00:14:21). We talk some college football (00:14:21-00:31:43). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Brady/Gisele Divorce (00:31:43-00:48:39). Kyle Long joins us in studio to catch up on the end of his football career, O-Line play, podcasting and tons more (00:48:39-01:52:07). We do 1 question with a Quarterback with Blake Bortles (01:52:07-02:02:47) and finish the show with bring your lunchpail with Jersey Jerry (02:02:47-02:24:52)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Sports. Go create a login, and redeem code PMT for $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply, today is Wednesday, October 5th, and I love watching Debo Samuel play football. That was my big take away from Monday Night Football. The quote of the game was from Debo after, he said, yeah, I just don't know what he was doing out there. That's what Debo said on Jalen Ramsey's attempt to tackle him on that first touchdown case. It was everyone on the Rams, I mean we saw them.

He can't tackle him, he's just un-tacklable. He's just a violent football player, he was basically made in a lab for Kyle Shanahan's offense when they showed him not only catching balls, running balls, but also blocking, like throwing great blocks for it to spring these big runs. It was a Kyle Shanahan masterclass. He owns Sean McVeigh, obviously not the NFC championship game, but I think it's now nine and three against the spread, Kyle Shanahan versus Sean McVeigh. And we've talked about this before, but it's great that the NFC West has these three young

coaches and they all just like have each other's number. Like Sean McVeigh has Cliff Kingsbury's number. I think Cliff- No, no. So I looked at this earlier today. Cliff did okay against the Niners for the last couple years, but overall it's like 50-50, so it's like Kyle owns Sean, Sean owns Cliff, Cliff owns a very nice house to do cocaine in.

Yeah. Okay, so there it is. That's the NFC West and Pete Carroll's just hanging out chomping gum up in Seattle. He's just having a good time. Yeah. He just can't be, his vibes are immaculate still to this day. I actually think that Pete Carroll is having more fun with Geno Smith as his quarterback. It's a combination of like, okay, weirdo Russ isn't around, so I don't have to worry

about placating him all the time and pretending to understand his strange, unusual motivational techniques and also Geno's around. If I win a game with Geno Smith, that's pretty cool if I lose, who really cares? But yeah, in terms of game last night, Debo Samuel is like, if you just took Greg Kittle and just shrunk him down into like a slightly smaller, slightly faster version of himself. But a lot of people are like, hey, when are they going to get Kittle involved? Kittle is involved in the run game and I think he actually, I think Greg Kittle should get fantasy points for run blocking.

I agree. Because he's one guy that does make that much of a difference. And I was watching some of the Kyle Shanahan like one-cut zone blocking. It's so sexy. It's beautiful. There was one play that was like a nine yard gain. That was like the prettiest play that I've ever seen in my life. It's also so pretty that it's like, he just does the same thing as his, that his dad did

with the Broncos. And it's like, that was just the best when it was like, hey, we could plug any running back in just one cut and they're gone. And when it works, there's like no prettier football. It really is. He makes running the football sexy. It's gorgeous. And then on the other side of the ball, first of all, I think it's time that we do some

blind resume season. OK. So I'm going to give you two random quarterbacks, completely random. And you tell me based on the stat line, which one you would rather have on your team right now. OK. OK. Quarterback one.

1,015 yards. Ooh. That's a lot of yards. Average 6.8 yards per reception. That's per completion. Four touchdowns. Six interceptions. OK.

Quarterback rating 81.4. OK. That's quarterback one. Quarterback two, 1,126 yards. Oh. 7.5 yards per completion. That's more. 11 touchdowns.

That's a lot more. Only three interceptions. Huh. 99.9 quarterback rating. Just out of those two. I'd want Jared Goff. You'd want Jared Goff. Yeah, I'd want Jared Goff.

And not Matt Safford. Yes. Yes. I'd want Jared Goff. I'd really want that trick, big cat. Yeah. The Rams are the Lions. It's a good question.

If we just take out Super Bowls, I think it's the Lions. Yeah. I mean, Super Bowls, that's a team stat. That's true. Just from a purely passer perspective. And the Rams, I mean, the Rams have problems. Their offensive line is completely battered, and they basically, like, it was essentially Matt Safford running for his life, just throwing it to Cooper Cup, and then Cooper Cup running

for his life. The 49ers' defense too, I don't know, like, if we had, like, advanced analytics of just they have dudes every year that just, they're violent, and I love it. Like, they always are, well, no, that, yeah, yeah, Fred Warner, they just always are the team that, like, if you catch the ball in the middle of the field, they'll have what feels like 10 guys tackling you immediately. And yeah, I was impressed with the Niners. I do think there was, like, times where I was thinking, you know, Jimmy G, nice guy,

but there was definitely a few times, especially in the first half, that one stretch where he had where he missed, like, three or four guys that were wide open. It's like, okay, I kind of get what Kyle Shanahan was trying to do. Like, hey, if we had, if you had Matt Safford on the Niners, I think they would be prohibitive Super Bowl favorites, because there are definitely some times you're like, hey, Jimmy, just the offense is so great. You have so many weapons. Just hit the guy who's wide open.

See, it's always a chicken or the egg situation with, if you had a great quarterback in Kyle Shanahan's offense, how good would they be? Because I feel like the fact that he's always had medium to, like, slightly below average quarterbacks makes him run the ball more, which is what he's good at, where if he had like a great quarterback out there, he probably wouldn't run the ball as much. I think you would still, I think you would probably still prefer for Jimmy G to hit the open guys. And Jimmy G has moments where you're like, oh, this is, this works.

Oh, no, I'm not talking about hitting the open guys. I'm just saying, like, I think that you'd fall in love with your quarterback if you have a guy that was slinging it. He just loves to run the ball. And then we also had the protester, Bobby Wagner showing way more effort on the pro. That was the best part of the Debo touchdown run is it wasn't just Jalen Ramsey. It was like the entire Rams team, essentially it was like a group homework assignment. They're like, someone else will do it.

We'll be fine. And then you get to, you get to the day where you have to do the presentation where it's like, I thought you were going to do it. Everyone was like, someone else will tackle him. It's fine. And everyone kind of made their own business decision. And it was like, great by Debo, terrible by the Rams. I don't do the Rams, do the Rams have problems?

I don't, I feel like their offensive line obviously does, but I still think they're going to be, they're going to be there at the end of the year. I think the problem is that Matt Stafford, he's obsessed with Cooper Rush. Yeah. It's like, it's sad. Cooper, Cooper cup. Sorry. Yeah.

Cooper cup. I'm obsessed with Cooper Rush. Yeah, you are. The ginger, the ginger cannon, but Cooper cup is like the only, the only option that he ever looks at. He tries to get the ball occasionally to Robinson, but that's not, it's very clear that his priority is. Well, Alan Robinson also great career.

It's actually funny. Our friend Tom Frinelli, he has like the biggest grudge with Alan Robinson because last year with the Bears, he was like, you know, complaining about targets and not getting open and stuff. It's like, well, he doesn't get open. Like he's with Matthew Stafford now. He had an ACL injury that he does not ever gotten that. He never was explosive to begin with, but he hasn't gotten, you know what I mean? He's not gotten all the way back.

And so maybe it's not the quarterback. Maybe it's Alan Robinson isn't as good as we thought towards the end of his career. I think it's mostly on, on Matt Stafford being upset, but he's not open. He's obsessed with him, but Alan Robinson isn't open. He is upset. Well, I've seen some of the cut-ups from Alan Robinson, like week one and week two where there are people out there that think like Alan Robinson should be the number one receiver based on how open he's gotten in weeks one and two.

But in terms of just like locking onto a guy, like it's kind of creepy how much Matt Stafford is obsessed with Cooper cup. Yeah. He's just like 19 targets through, through the bottom 19, it was, it was, it was essentially like I said, it was just running for his life. Oh shit. Throw it to Cooper cup. And yeah, the, the only other thing that happened was the protester and Bobby Wagner

taking them out, which was great. I think there was a security guard that might have blown his ACL at the start of it. Yeah. That was the other angle. That's got to suck so bad for security guards who are like, they're ready for that moment and their hope like, Hey, we get a moment where we get to just absolutely pummel a guy and take him off. But the minute you realize, oh, this guy might have some speed, that has to be a demoralizing

second where you're like, fuck, I'm kind of screwed. But credit to the security guard in yellow, who just ran him towards Bobby Wagner and was like, get, get your help defense. Yeah. I mean, you got to act like a herding dog in that situation and make somebody else make a play on them. Just steer him towards the sidelines and hope something good happens. What was he protesting?

I don't know. I don't know. Probably chickens. Should be in favor. It was someone who broke into a slaughterhouse and they're now locked up and he was asking for them to be freed. Okay. So like a political prisoner.

Are they locked out in locked up in the slaughterhouse because that would be funny if they're like, now you can't leave. You just got to sit here with these pigs that we slaughter every day and listen to them die. That would be cool. You think that guy will sue Bobby Wagner? I don't think that you can. I don't think you can. I think you're like trespassing at that point.

Now the take of the night, that goes to our good friend, Dan Dockage, because he said, if players can do this to fans coming onto the field, can fans smack players coming into the stands a la Kyler Murray? Good question. It's a great question that needs to be asked, Dan. Kyler Murray also wasn't going into the stand and lambo leap. He was basically assaulting them by leaning against the barrier. Oh my God.

Fair question. Fair question, Dan. Really yes. I say that if Kyler Murray, if he climbs into the stands and starts to punch you, I say that you should be allowed to restrain him using all physical means necessary. Yes. Dan also hilariously broke the Paul Christ news like six hours after everyone else. He's like, I can also confirm.

That's my favorite. Paul Christ has been fired. Whenever Dan does that, I always like to quote, tweet and confirm his confirmation. That's right. I did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's hard and hip, but you know what? I enjoyed the game. I enjoyed the game. It's always fun watching McVeigh go against Shanahan. I do think the Niners, like it's always the question of can they stay healthy? But that team, their defense is, it gets all over everyone. I can't wait to watch. What's the, whose line is it anyway?

Panthers, 49ers, because holy shit, Baker's in for a long day. 49ers. 49ers. That's in San Francisco. It's in Santa Clara. Carolina. In Carolina. Yeah.

I would say minus six. No. Minus, minus five. What do we got? It's a long plane ride, bad Wi-Fi. We have. Niners. Mine's six and a half.

Oh, there you go. Hank. Yeah. That's going to be a long, long afternoon for Baker. I kind of went out to Carolina Panthers on Sunday night show. I had so many people from Carolina reach out to me be like, I watched this entire game. I can't believe I did. There was one person that I'm not going to out them.

When they work for the Panthers organization, part of their job is to cut up highlights. Oh, no. And at the end of the second half, somebody said, hey, we need the second half highlight package. And the guy was like, literally the only highlight that we had was a fake punt that was called back on a flag. Post it. So there's no, there were no highlights in the entire second half.

That guy is like the, the, the Facebook quality control people who have to watch like horrendous videos of people dying and stuff. And then they get PTSD. Yeah. It's different than the Carolina Panthers social media team trying to cut up highlights. No, it's tough. Like, would you rather watch this like person in the countryside be doused with gasoline? Yeah.

And like a political coup, or would you rather watch Baker Mayfield handoff for a two yard loss? I know. That's a tough one. I think it's probably the former. Sam Darnold might be coming back though. Yeah. That was Baker's kind of in trouble.

The minute you hear like Sam Darnold making progress with his ankle injury, that's, it's, it's going to be the same result for the Panthers. But hey, sure. Yeah. Sure. Matt rule is on board the Titanic and he's like, no, let's put this chair on the starboard side. Yeah.

I think that would be better. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Just try maybe putting the whole thing in reverse. Yeah. Let's see if we can just turn back time. So the band's playing right now.

Is there, do you know anything like a little more peppy of a tune, like someone put a pop in your stop? Yeah. Yeah. So it's not good for the Panthers. We want to talk a little college football before we do hot seat, cool throne. We talked about obviously Paul Chris getting fired, which was a shocker. I dropped the fun fact on you guys that the last time Wisconsin fired a football or basketball

coach was Stan Van Gundy in 1995, which is hilarious. They just don't let people like they let everyone walk away on their own terms. Yes. Yes. Bo Ryan walked away gracefully on his own terms. Yeah. Exactly. So it's, I, I, I touched on it on Sunday, but it is nice having now an excuse because

the Badger sucks so bad to be like, well, we, we went through a coach firing. What are you going to do? Well, so the fact that Wisconsin has a job opening makes me, one of my favorite things to do is to just talk about jobs and college football. What's a better job? Nebraska or Wisconsin? Yeah, exactly. Let's, let's compare jobs.

I think I would rather, I would rather take the Wisconsin job than the Nebraska job. Nebraska fans will get very upset, but I agree. But here's the, here's the situation. Like Nebraska feels like it's the entire job is poisoned. Yeah. Everyone thought Scott Frost, there's no way that this fails. Yeah. He's been a success elsewhere, prodigal son returns home.

This is guaranteed victory. Really the only way that you can possibly succeed at Nebraska is to do what Bo Polini did. Yeah. Which is to just make everybody in town hate you, but win football games. And it's also, it goes back to Wisconsin for, you know, as much as it's hard to watch sometimes, there is strength in knowing what you are and just doing that well. And not trying to deviate from that because if you have a brand and you can maximize that

brand, which is just running the football down everyone's throat and playing good defense, you at least don't get, have to play this game where you hire someone who's like, you know, Nebraska might hire someone like, Hey, we're going to run explosive offense and like, we're going to try it this way. It's like, no, just do this when you're nine or 10 games, everyone knows what it is. It's fun. Sometimes when you, when you win big games against rivals and yeah, that's, that's cool. Like I'm cool with that.

That's college football. Like not everyone can win a national title. And I did like someone did tweet in all earnesty being like, Wisconsin should give Nick Saban a call. The academics like line up with what he believes in and it'll be stupid not to at least give him a call. Call everybody. Yeah.

Someone was like, someone replied and was like, why not call Bear Bryant too? Yeah. He's been dead for 20 years, but who cares? Newt Rockney. Yeah. Might as well. No. No.

No. What about Coach O though? Cause like when you think about it, Wisconsin is the Louisiana of the Midwest. It could be. Yeah. They're like vaguely French. They have a severe drinking problem. Yep.

A lot of big people like fried food every day. It seems like a perfect culture fit to be honest with you. Yeah. It's like you just trade jumbalaya for, for brats. Yeah. Very easy. I think it'd be very easy to simulate. Although coach O does like the warm weather.

I know he likes to go running out with Sam Baker with Ray Baker, Ray Baker, Ray Baker. It's good backfire on you though, because you got Leonard as your interim head coach. Favorite Badger of all time. Your favorite Badger. A lot of people's favorite Badger. And so he's kind of been hanging out for a while. Like the coach in waiting and waiting almost. Yep.

And they've got him with an easy schedule coming up. Don't you guys play like Northwestern? Yeah. Well, I mean, it's the Big 10 West. Who else do you play? Like Purdue? Literally the Big 10 West. Yeah.

There you go. So it's every team sucks. He should win most of these games coming up. Correct. If he doesn't, he probably won't get the job. Then he probably won't get the job, and then he probably won't want to stick around in Wisconsin. No, no, he wouldn't.

No, obviously he wouldn't. So it's like you're going all in on him right now. Yeah, but it's better than, I'd rather it this way than firing Paul Christ at the end of the year and then hiring Jim Leonard and then finding out it doesn't work next year. Because then if you hire him for the full, I want it to work with him. But if you hire him after this year, if you say you fire Paul Christ in January, you hire Jim Leonard, you then have to kind of keep him for three years. And if he's not the guy, that's three more years down the line where you've kind of fucked

yourself. I think he's going to be good. I think he's going to be successful. I might just do like an integrity, support the program, major pick on Wisconsin minus nine and a half against Northwestern feels right. Maybe pledge that money to the kids. Jim Leonard's future hot tub, I don't know. The Children's Hospital.

Yeah, right. You just say the Children's Hospital. Yeah, the Children's Hospital. The Children's Hospital. I did. We didn't talk about it on Sunday. We have to be careful, PFT, because we have been playing a dangerous game of always saying we're going to match charity and stuff.

And I almost got fucked. I'll match your charity with Mizzou. To Jim. Yeah. I almost got fucked with Mizzou on Saturday night when I said I would match Chase Daniels' offer for two hours, open bar, a big Mizzou bar. And they almost beat Georgia, which I feel like Mizzou always almost beats Georgia. It's a perfect scenario, though, saying that you're going to match and they're never having

to. That's kind of the whole point of saying that you'll match. I was very close to having, like, we have been playing with fire and it almost burnt me. Yeah, but you've got to play with fire. Yeah, I know. If you don't play with fire, then you'll never cook a meal. Yeah, it's true.

That's what I always say. It's true. I honestly will never stop saying that I will match or double. I don't know which is better, actually, saying double or match. I think both. Yeah, you go back and forth. You switch back and forth. Other college football.

I wanted to throw out one thing for the people, a future, that I have my eyes on, Clemson and it's 16 to one to win the national title. I don't think they're going to win the national title. I think they're going to be in the playoff. I think Clemson is sneaky a little bit back, even though they won 10 games last year. DJ Angalea is playing well. It's Ooyangalea. Right, Jake?

Jake nailed it. Nailed it. We practiced at the beginning of the season. Nice. Yeah. He looks competent, even good, dare I say, and if they figure out their cornerbacks and secondary like they will, they, I think they'll be in the, they've played the two toughest teams in Wake Forest in NC State and the ACC.

Yeah, that division that they're in stinks. Right. I think they might have to play Florida State. I think they might have to play Notre Dame, but like Notre Dame's down. So Syracuse. Syracuse. Syracuse. Good point.

But 16 to one. Just saying. It's not bad. And it might be DJ. DJ is like everything that Sean Payton wanted to take some hill to be. Yeah. He's like a, he's a better passer. I think he's more dynamic, like a more powerful runner.

When he's at his best, he's like a more powerful Taysum Hill. Yeah. When he's at his worst, he's, he's pretty bad though. Like he has the ability. It wouldn't shock me if he came out and laid an egg. And I, so Alabama obviously, Bryce Young got hurt. He'll be back eventually, but we don't know how long. Ohio State looks good.

Georgia, I, it's crazy to say, but like their last two games, they have not looked, their defense looks good still. But I'm wondering, well, I mean, they gave up 22 to Kent State, Missouri kind of, Missouri was moving the ball against them. No, but they're deep. And I watched that entire game, unfortunately, because I thought I was going to have to pay like $20,000 in a bar tab. I'm not, I'm not worried about their, their defense at all.

I'm a little bit worried about their offense. Mizzou kind of moved the ball. Like it wasn't, it wasn't so fluky. It wasn't, it wasn't one of those games where it's like weird things kept on happening and balls getting tipped. They were obviously still better defensively than Mizzou's offense, but Mizzou like was running the ball, was throwing it deep a couple of times. I'm just saying this is just put it, put a little pin in it.

Did we get a little bit duped by Georgia's dominance because we watched that 49 to three game against Oregon week one. Oh, for sure. And we were like, this team is insane. And I think they're obviously still very, very good. But the last two, one game I get two games in a row where they've played down to their competition severely. Makes you start to say, huh?

Maybe this isn't like the juggernaut. We all thought it would be. I think their defense will be fine. I think long term, that's not going to be a problem for them. They'll figure it out. Alabama, I don't know, is Bryce Young is a shoulder okay? It's a sprained shoulder, right? Yeah.

So that's not bro football doc. Maybe you can shed some light on that. A sprained shoulder seems like a bad thing to have as a quarterback. Like something that you need more than just a week or two to recover from. Definitely needs some mobility, but it's kind of one of those things you just got throw through. Yeah, throw through it. That's a good doctor.

If you use it more, it'll get better. And they, I mean, they're going to, this is actually going to be great watching on Saturday night. Alabama versus Texas A&M with the backup with Alabama, who's not a great thrower. Nick Saban is going to just be like, I'm going to try to rush for 600 yards on your face. Yeah. And there's nothing you can do about it. I mean, we might see a Ryan Day, Greg Sheano type ending of this game.

They might run the triple option. Like I think Nick Saban is going to be man football down their face all day and it's going to be great to watch. He's going to, he's going to punish Jimbo. So I'm more interested in the handshake after the game. The handshake. Yeah. Jimbo Fisher, I think he said this off season, did he say like somebody should have slapped

him in the face? Yeah. I don't think that you can say that somebody should slap another man in the face and then go shake that other man's hand. Yeah. I think you got to have some sort of, I don't know if it's going to be one of the handshakes where you grab and you pull in and you like hold on a little bit too long and you like give them a little lecture with a finger point.

I always love the finger point addition to the handshake when you're teaching another man a lesson at the end of the game or maybe he snubs them. I don't know. Or maybe they just stand there yelling at each other. Yeah. Who knows? But that's what I'm very interested in seeing at the end of this game. And then we also have the Red River shootout, which is going to be the hot seat.

Oh yeah. We're not allowed to say shootout. S out. Yeah. The S out, which is going to be the hot seat bowl because obviously Brent Venable, it's his first year. So he's not technically on the hot seat, but if he loses three in a row, people are going to be very upset.

And then Sark definitely could be on the hot seat if he loses this game. You think so? I mean, they've they played Alabama close, then they lose to Texas Tech. If they lose to if they lose to Oklahoma, people are going to start asking questions. They'll always ask questions, but I don't think that Sark's on the hot seat when you ask. It wasn't good. Yeah.

But you've got Arch Manning coming to town and a pretty big part of that I would imagine would be you're going to play with Steve Sarkesian. I don't know. They could probably get I just saying it's so ridiculous. How much money they invested in recruiting Arch Manning because they know that he's going to bring in tens of millions of dollars to that university, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, if they play well, I'm just saying I'm going to find some podcasters saying possible hot seat if they lose the discussion, the discussion could happen.

Yeah. People are talking about happening right now. Discussion. Yes. There's also the chip Patterson versus Les Miles, TCU, Kansas game. Yes. I think college game day is going to be up there. Yes.

Going to be fun to watch. Yes. Which are these two? Is Kansas a fraud? Yeah. Yes. I'm going to say TCU is going to win that game. Their head coach used to be the head coach at Whitewater.

Yeah. That's T3. Yeah. Lancelot. He's on the he's on Wisconsin's list for potential hires. He was at Buffalo. And then before that he was in Wisconsin, right? Yeah.

No, he won, like Billy said, he won multiple national titles at Wisconsin. Wisconsin Whitewater. Yeah. Yeah. I was Gary Patterson. Excuse me, Gary. I didn't want to mess up the name of that coach for TCU. I was confused when he said there.

I just went by it because it was like those are obviously the former coaches. It's Gary Patterson against Les Miles. Who is on Texas' staff now, which is crazy. Yeah. I saw him waddling around in that burnt orange. And so I had a lot of people be like, you don't know DFW football. I just asked the question, is it not kind of a slap in everyone's face at TCU? He built that whole program.

Obviously, the time had come to part ways. He goes and he's a special assistant for Steve Sarkeesian on the Texas sideline. That's weird to me. It is kind of strange. That's weird to me. It's all I'm going to say. That is weird to me. We also have LSU playing Tennessee this weekend.

Yeah. And that's I'm worried for Tennessee. I'm worried. Yeah. Now it's going to be an early game, which is nice. Noon game. And people are pissed off in Baton Rouge about that because it doesn't give them enough time to get drunk.

I say to them, if you go and you watch the Red River S out, that game is played at 11 o'clock local time. Let's say Showdown. They read Showdown. Yeah. S Down. That game is played at 11 o'clock local time every year in Dallas. And just the students stay up drunk from the night before.

They just don't go to bed. Yeah. That's what they should do in LSU. I'm a little bit worried though because it's a tough place to play regardless of how inebriated the Cajuns are. And it just feels like a letdown spot for them after that emotional. They had a week off. They had a bye week.

But still, it's like this. This feels like a game that Tennessee should win. But because it's a game that Tennessee should win, it actually feels like a game that they should lose. I also love the Brian Kelly press conference when someone from LSU asked him about the famous 13 men on the field game in 2010 when Tennessee had won the game. The game was over. And then the rest were like, nope, they had 13 men on the field, one more play.

And Brian Kelly was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'll have to look into it. It's like it happened in 2010. It didn't happen in like 1972. You were coaching college football when that happened. That was a pretty big game and a pretty crazy moment that happened in that year that you were alive coaching college football. So he just doesn't want to learn LSU history.

I just appreciate that. I just want Tennessee to remain undefeated until they play Alabama. That's what I want because that game will be fun. And then the only other thing I had was USC just has too many towel guys. I don't know if you saw that clip. They have towel guys up the ass just whipping at people every single time they get a big play, which is I guess a culture change. I think that's what they're trying to do is more towels.

They're trying to just watch this clip and tell me if you think there's maybe too many towel guys. OK. We'll put this in the YouTube. Basically, oh yeah, it just gets assaulted on the sideline with towel guys. That's the Deshaun Watson method. They have like four guys. Yeah, four guys just whipping towels of people.

Yeah, that's that's that's that's culture. That's culture. Would anybody in this room like to apologize regarding the discussion about JMU being ranked in the top 25? Are they ranked? The discussion's happening. No, I said the discussion was discussions happening. They I think they got like 11 votes to be ranked in the top thirty nine.

Thirty nine. The AP poll. Let's go. No, I said the discussion was happening. So it did also happen three weeks ago when they didn't get any votes. But now it's happening. Well, no, the discussion started to happen after they beat Appalachian State. I was having before I was having the discussion of if they beat Appalachian State, there will

be a discussion, right, which I was correct about. Yeah. And well, because the discussion had happened. The discussion happened already, but then it happened after that went to. So now they've got they've got Arkansas State on the road. They've got another game, I think Georgia State. And then easy wins. They should be wins.

And then they got Marshall at home. They will be ranked at least twenty three if they go into that game. Whoa. At what would that be? Six and oh, and I will be back on campus at the homecoming for that Marshall game if they're undefeated at that moment. I have to. I'm do it's pretty crazy.

It's the fact that they this is their first year as a big boy program and they're undefeated. Now, granted, they haven't played like a world beater schedule yet. I think they're hard. Hey, you are what your record says you are game on paper, I think would be Louisville who stinks. Yeah. Louisville stinks out loud. Yeah.

But it's just crazy to think that like James Madison, yeah, will be ranked if they win the next two games. Yeah. They're going to be playing in a bowl game in like on December twenty first, it's going to be great. I'm going to bet it and I'm going to love it. They can't. Why?

Oh, because they got banned for three years. They got I don't know if it's three years, but it's definitely this year. Damn. They got excluded from the postseason. That's bullshit. Because they moved up. You know what? We should start that movement.

That's bullshit. Let the kids play. It's not you shouldn't punish the kids just like last year. You shouldn't punish any team that moves up to Division one, whether it be like women's lacrosse, men's soccer, men's football. They should not be punished for something that the school did to move them up to the next division. That's hashtag.

Let the hashtag. Bullshit. Yeah. Bullshit. Bullshit. Yeah. Let the kids play. Let the kids play.

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Hank. My hot seat is the suns. The suns. Not the sun. The suns. The basketball team. NBA basketball is back. It's way too soon.

Way too soon. They're playing preseason games and the suns lost their first game. It's good for us. They lost to an NBAL team, an Australian league team, the Adelaide 36ers. How did Chris Ball do though? Legacy wise. I mean, that's bad for your legacy. That is bad for your legacy.

I'm going to count that as another, I doubt he did. I'm going to count that as another 3-1 lead blown. Did you play? I doubt it. I'll check. Well, that even more count. Like he left his teammates out to dry. Yup.

That's got to. You can't overlook the 36ers. Suns versus NBAL. It's a tale as old as time. Yeah. That's stunning loss, stunning preseason loss. And they had a lot of, they had all the controversy with their team in the offseason, a team that was, was so, so promising a few years ago seems to be falling apart at the seams.

Ever since they stopped, wait, wait, verbal meme. It's AJ Tenez. I ain't right back. They need to get back in touch with her. It seems like the whole team's been cursed ever since they just ignored the story. They should have leaned into that a little bit more. Chris Paul played. Yeah.

Oh, he did play. So are you saying that a Chris Paul team has, has kind of self-destructed? No. It appears that way. Oh, come on. No way. I don't believe it. That's fun.

That was a fun hot seat. Thank you. Remember when they were going to get KD like two months ago? Mm-hmm. Ah, then my cool throw was chili. Oh yeah. It's out. Go watch it.

I watched the preview and I laughed just knowing what was in store. Part of my take YouTube. Check it out. Billy tried to kill us. So tune in to Billy trying to kill us. Billy, you want to preview it? Yeah. Billy, how would you describe your character in this?

Your story arc? I tried something controversial. Didn't work out. He tried to poison us. He tried to kill us. I didn't try to kill them. I just think- But if you had-

I didn't go by the book. Right. I didn't go by the book that Brian Bobgarner warned us before we- It was supposed to be a blind test. I don't want to give away too much. But before we had one certain person's chili, Brian told us like, please don't eat too much of that. It will poison you.

Yeah. Alternate facts. Okay. Okay. PFC, your hot seat cool throw. My hot seat is Dana White. Oh yeah. Dana White got put on the hot seat big time.

He did an interview. I don't know who did the interview with. It was on like the USC main account or UFC main account. And he said that he went to go get a test with some sort of doctor. And the doctor told him that he's going to die in 10.4 years. Yep. So apparently this doctor has a test that they can run where they can tell you to the month when you're going to die.

Sounds legit. Yeah. So then Dana changed up his entire diet and now he says that he's extended his life. Yeah, he did the 10X. Because this doctor told him, hey, guess what? I can tell you exactly what foods. Why do more Americans not get this test? Well, it costs, we looked it up the other day and it costs so much money.

It's the 10X fitness program. I think it's related to Grant Cardone, who's a 10X. He created the 10X mindset, which is just anything you want to do in life. Just do a 10X. What is the, is it called the 10X diet? Fitness or something. 10X fitness. They measure your telomeres, which are something they're supposed to indicate how old you are

biologically. You could have like a 23-year-old with the telomeres of the equivalent of a 55-year-old who just lives unhealthy, but there's like 55-year-olds with telomeres who are like 30. So you probably just had really old telomeres. It also was ridiculous because I don't know if you saw the clip, PFT, but Dana White was like, yeah, I was not feeling healthy. I was waking up every single night, throwing up in my sleep. It's like, yeah, that's bad.

That seems bad. You should probably go see a real doctor. But he's now back. He's living life. There's something weird about the more rich and powerful you get, the worse your medical choices become. Yeah. Because even though you have access to make the best possible medical choice, besides

Steve Jobs, who just, he got on a plane and went to Brazil and he's still alive to this day. But when you have life-changing money where you're in charge of hundreds and hundreds of people and you're their boss, for some reason you think that the health care that they get, that's bad health care. I'm the only one that can get the real health care. So you're not making terrible decisions for your own body. The 10x fitness program, they're selling these red lights, which Billy, you could tell me

what red lights do to you, but they're like $12,000. It's a very genius program because you can essentially, what are super crazy rich people, what are they most afraid of, is dying because they love being super crazy rich so they can spend money on weird science to keep them alive. He also said that he's fucking obsessed with finding out the exact month that he is on pace to die in. I also just have a theory that this guy- That's really strange because if somebody were to tell me, if you had to choose between

like, you get to know when you're gonna die and you get to know the method in which you will die. I don't want to know either. But you have to pick one of them. Gun to your head. I think method and hoping that it's not like getting hit by a bus because then I just have to avoid all buses for the rest of my life. Yeah.

I think if you have to pick one of those two, that's the one that you go with. Yeah. I mean, knowing when you're gonna die would be terrible. Be terrible, terrible, terrible. Every single day you just be like, oh, I'm gonna die in this many days. Yeah. So people are, the haters out there, like actual doctors are casting aspersions on it saying that these methods almost certainly do not work and that it's-

No way. Really irresponsible of any doctor to say anything like this. No way. I'm gonna go with Dana White. So he's extended his life by some years because of his telemetry, is that it, Billy? Telomeres. Telomeres. Telomeres.

I want to get this test though. You could. You think so? Yeah. How much do you think it would cost? A lot. Look up telomeres tests. It's just basically how the longer your telomeres, like the less you've aged.

Got it. Okay. Your Cool Throne PFT? My Cool Throne is Fat Bears. Yeah. It's Fat Bear season, bitch. The National Park up in Alaska, they do this every year. I think we've covered this Fat Bear race almost every year here on Pardon My Take.

Shout out to our guy, Zah. He's a big fan of Fat Bear Week. Oh, he loves Fat Bear Week. Oh, my God. I think we've been going through Fat Bear Week since like the very first year of Pardon My Take. Yeah. The Fat Bears are back.

They hibernate in a couple months and the weeks spent up until they start to hibernate are just spent standing in a stream gorging themselves on salmon. And you can go and look and you can see pictures of them coming out of hibernation and then pictures of them now when they've gained like 300 pounds. Yeah. So I've got a front runner. You can look at all the different bears and then they put them in a bracket and they compete against each other.

I've got Bear 747. Okay. 747 is a fucking unit. Yeah. Fat Bear Week's great. It's fucking electric every single year. All right. My hot seat is anyone who hates on Tony LaRusa because he's retiring because of medical issues.

So I don't know what's actually going on with him. He stopped managing the White Sox for the last month, but credit to Tony. This is the best way to retire being like, I'm sick. Don't make the jokes. I would like to see his telomere test. Yes. The doctor would just print it out and be like, it's just a .09. Yeah.

You're dead. You're actually a dead person. Yeah. But yeah, this is in terms of like, it didn't go well with him as manager of the White Sox. Who would have ever thought that? But I have to give him credit like saying, yeah, I don't feel very good. So everyone please be nice is a great way to walk out of a team that completely underachieved all year.

Yeah. Didn't they get, they got off to a good start though under LaRusa. Last year they were okay, but this year they were, this was supposed to be the year that they put it all together and they were just never that team for the get-go. LaRusa is, if they ever do like an interim manager on a team that has some talent that's like on the cusp, I think you get like a good two, three weeks out of them, right? Yeah. Maybe.

Maybe not. Because I remember when he started with the White Sox, everybody was like, suck it haters. LaRusa system, the old school way actually still works in baseball. But now it just starts my favorite rumor always whenever the White Sox need new managers, Ozzie Guillen should be the manager again. And he's like, he's, he's basically saying, I know this team better than anyone. So bring them back. My cool throne is the league, or sorry, this league because Ben Simmons is back and he's

shooting basketball. So you don't have to worry about that. It was great watching the one highlight. Everyone dunked on him. It's going to be awesome when it's like a Thursday night primetime game or, you know, one of those featured games that they have. And he just misses a shot in the hole. Like this is now this, we're, we're looking at one of the most universally hated guys

on the internet and the, the clips are going to come out when he shoots and misses horrifically. Like he didn't even hit the rim when he shot a fadeaway last night. I'm just so ready for it. It's going to be very funny to watch. It's going to be like Trent Richardson and the holes that he's not running through all over again. It's going to be screened or Mitch Trebisky and the receivers he's not passing. And the best, the best part is like he's, I listen, I know Nets fans exist.

But in terms of fan bases, they probably are in the low end of like strong history of fan bases that will like come back at people. So they don't, Ben Simmons doesn't even have defenders. Like if Ben Simmons was on the Lakers or the Celtics or the Sixers, well he was on the Sixers, but a team that had a bunch of raptors, imagine Ben Simmons on the Raptors fans would go to fucking war for the guy. There's not a lot of defense for Ben Simmons. No.

And they don't have to play defense on him. Just let him shoot. That's kind of the defense out there. It's kind of like the Lakers fan, or not the Lakers, the Clippers fan base, where it's a big market, but nobody out there, he's an easy target with nobody to defend him. There are fans, but they're just, they don't have numbers. You know what? I accept that challenge, big guy.

Okay, there you go. I will become the Ben Simmons defender. Yeah. Guard him. The prince that was promised. I will guard him. Hand down, man down. Yeah, you don't even have to do that.

But I feel like it's going to be, it's going to be a pretty easy job to defend him. There's a list of excuses I can come up with in my head to defend Ben Simmons, it starts and it ends at the fact that he's right-handed. Yeah. And also just say he plays great defense, because you could just post a clip of him locking someone down and be like, no one else in the league is doing this. Mental health, big guy. Mental health.

Billy, your hot seat. Cool throne. My hot seat is Kamzat, Kamzat, the Russian fighter, who we know is a great wrestler, welterweight guy. He just got detained in Russia and his passport taken. So I don't think we're going to be seeing him in the UFC anytime soon. Damn. I don't know why he went back.

Yeah. What did he get detained for? Probably to get drafted. Not fighting in the army. Yeah. Yeah. A weed pen? Yeah.

My cool throne is Division II Women's Soccer. So a story is just coming out of D2 Women's Soccer. There was a head coach of UTPB, which I don't know what it stands for. But the Carliteges, basically, huge- University of Texas Peanut Butter? Yeah. That's what it sounds like. University of Toledo Pacific Beach.

Permian Basin. Okay. Permian Basin. Really nailing it down there. So she was... Juggernaut. Basically, this sounds like it's out of Blue Mountain State. She was arrested for DWI on September 11th and asked some players to help pay her bail,

which some of them did. She then got into physical interactions with members of the UTPB men's soccer team, including kissing in public. That's a physical interaction? Yeah. Distributed alcohol to minors. She was ejected. She was fucking parties.

She was ejected from a game. It sounds like Alex Morgan when she went to Epcot Center. Yeah. Sounds like the prime minister of Finland or whatever. She was ejected from a game and then she re-entered... U-Bonk. I just said the prime minister. Valid.

Yeah. Prove yourself. This one's pretty funny. How did you know who the prime minister of Finland was, Hank? Because he bonked. Because I'm well-versed on geopolitical studies. He bonked. Yeah.

I keep going with this scintillating division of the story. You could work in Thailand. No. You should change names. She got ejected from a game and then came back into the game with the disguise. Oh, Bobby Valentine. Yeah. I love it.

And then she was continuing to coach via walkie-talkie. And then an anonymous group alleges that she encouraged her students to cheat on classes. Kind of crazy story. She's just a bad girl soccer. Every coach does that. Yeah. Yeah. Like this is Mac Brown.

This is basically Nick Saban. Yeah. Just didn't know they did it like that. Yeah. I like this. Can you happen to have any pictures of her? I actually looked for some. Don't think they're bonkable.

Oh, okay. That wasn't his question. Yeah. I was just asking. We know what you're looking for. No. I was just curious which I want to put a face to the activity. Let PFT decide.

Jake. Yeah. All right. Jake. My hot seat is love. We have breaking moves. Oh. Oh, breaking moves.

This doesn't matter. Come on, breaking moves. Whoa. You're not going to do it? Oh. According to the New York Post, Tom Brady and Giselle have hired divorce lawyers. Oh, that's why it doesn't matter. Can we get a real cal for this?

Breaking moves. All right. I'll do it. Breaking moves. I just want to say, Giselle, I know you're going through a lot and we've been going back and forth a little bit these last couple of weeks and I can understand you were a little bit jealous when I did reach out to Marjorie Taylor Greene, but I just want to say that if you need to discuss any of this, I know it's going to be tough on you and the family.

I'm just a shoulder to cry on, to lean on, whatever you want to say. I'm an open book. So just feel free. What does this mean for Tom Brady's legacy that he chose football over family? Again? Football guy. Okay. It is the fee.

He should be football guy of the week. That's why he's the goat. Yeah. Now, what if he gets back? It's also these are sources. Jake's not really being a big jittery now. I literally said, according to the New York Post, which, which one? Can you trust the New York Post?

That's Derek Eater. That's a great headline. Okay. Good, good. Hot seat. What if, what if he gets back? If he gets back with Bridget Moynihan, then he's choosing his family over football again. So that would be nice.

Your cool throne. My cool throne is Steph Curry. He is going to be playable in the new PGA2K game. So that's not even his sport and he's in the game. Does it all. Pretty sick. What a beast. Yeah.

Passball's back way too fast. And hockey. Oh yeah. I had a reminder. Yeah. Hockey started. Although if we're in the trustry here, fellas, I have been betting a little preseason hockey and I had been doing okay.

So that was trustry. I had a reminder. What? I got on Saturday. I had two. What? Like the New York Rangers versus the fucking. I had, I bet the Red Wings against the Blackhawks on Saturday.

That was an easy winner. I bet the Kraken under on Saturday. Easy winner. And it was found money because I was struggling through college football and I was like, boom, preseason hockey. Easy winners. Listen, if the bet wins, I shouldn't have to apologize for it. No.

That's fair. I had a reminder for you to bet on the NBA Abu Dhabi preseason games this week. Oh. Because you said it would be at a random time. Yeah. I mean. Bucks Hawks Thursday at noon and Saturday at noon. Love it.

Abu Dhabi. Time zones. In. In. In. Okay. Good job, Jake. Let's get to Kyle Long with a quick word from our friends at Roman.

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OK, we now welcome on a very special guest, one of our good, good friends. Long time friends. It's been way too long since you've been on the show. It is Kyle Long, who is still getting comfortable. Retired. Retired. Officially. But you're never retired. I was talking to an old dude today. My father and I was kicking my ass to the golf course golf course.

We put like a pitch and putt today and we had a third party member who was a random and his name was Ed Trader Joe's employee loves the benefits at TJ's. Yeah. He was talking about, you know, all kinds of stuff they offer. But one thing he said is, you know, this is my retirement job. And I was thinking to myself, you're never really retired. You're right. Even when you're done with the main thing, there's always something. They're side quests. It's like GTA. We all beat the game eventually.

And then what else do you do? So our football side quests are retired. Football side quests are retired. I still think you could be out. What if we get a call right now? I'm coaching high school and it's fun. I get those juices out. I'm getting a text right now. It's from Andy Reed. He says, hey, if Kyle's with you right now, I saw you guys interacting on Twitter.

We're going to offer him $15 million to play the rest of the season. 15 million. I needed it in writing, Big Red. But that's a yes. Yeah, but I heard yes. If it's a contract. I have a CBS contract, CBS Sports. That's where you can find me, Billy. Football, if you like to watch me, if you were a fan of me on the field,

you should check me out CBS Sports on Sunday mornings. That other pregame show, Mondays, Greenlight Pot. I'm getting the plug out of the way so we can just hang out. I don't know, has Chris made you sign a contract? I have signed a contract. Oh, shit. This is my boss. Damn. Wow.

That sucks. You got to retire from that. I bent the knee. Yeah, shit. He made you do the whole thing. He's like the whole he put face paint on me. He's like, you know, the sword came out. He wore the dog mask from Philly. Howie Jr. is just sitting in the sideline being like,

this is so stupid. Why would you ever do this? Yeah, I mean, he's he's he's happy that we're friends. He's happy that we get to make content together. And Chris and I are kind of finding our way at the pod. You know, I sit at the desk with him. And at first, I don't know my place because I've been playing and he's been making content.

He's been running a media company. Yeah. The undertaking is so much more than just showing up and saying funny, interesting shit. It is. And people don't realize that. And I've seen that side of it and how stressful it can be. And now I'm at the desk and I don't want to fuck it up.

And I'm getting a text from Chris. It's like, hey, we're really having a good time. This isn't stressful for me, by the way. Right. So let's fucking keep having fun. Yeah. And that's what it's all about. What's the drug testing policy like over at Greenlight?

You know, I'm still figuring out the boundaries in the office place, but you try to keep things separate from work at home. Yeah, work hard, play hard. Yeah, that would be ironic if Chris was just like, no weed in the office. Big Howie always said there's a time to work and there's time to play. But it is true.

Chris, like, we've obviously been close friends with Chris for a very long time as well. I think when he started the podcast and the media company, it was very stressful. He was like, this is a lot harder than I thought. But you guys have found a really nice footing. And it feels like you've hit your groove. It's nice to know that the things that I consider my weaknesses

are absolutely Chris's strengths. Yeah. The details, the preparation. He's a real gritty guy. He stays up late, late nights, early mornings. He's, you know, father of two. Shout out to the fathers out there. I got a nearly six-month-old daughter out there.

Shout out. And yeah, so Chris is burning the candle on both ends. But on my end, I can just show up and be loose and shoot from the hip. And a lot of the shit, they're going to have to cut out of the show. And that takes longer on the back end. But, you know, if we have fun, people

get a look into what we're really like. And we've never really had that. Hanging out with you guys, for me, has always been fun and always been a pleasure. Because I can just fucking hang out and pack a dip and feel like myself and relax like, oh, why is all this equipment in here? We're just talking.

Right. That's how it is with Chris now. Sometimes they'll be like, hey, talk into the mic. Don't talk to Chris. I'm like, but I am talking to Chris. That's pretty cool. Does Chris ever text you before a show? He's like, hey, we're going to talk about bridges today.

So just prepare your top five bridges. Yeah. Because he gets into these weird. He'll see something online. And he'll get really into it for a second and be like, we're going to do like 30 minutes on this one thing that I'm doing a deep dive on. He loves deep dives.

I mean, like anybody else, and Billy can appreciate this one as well. I've got a strange YouTube algorithm for whatever reason. When I go to youtube.com on any of my devices, it pops up some weird shit. But I love the deep dives I've taken. Bridges could be one of them, you know what I'm saying? Triangles.

I reference bridges. A coach from the Bears corrected my blocking technique one time. He said, you've got a triangle going on down there. And I said, hey, coach, have you ever seen a fucking bridge? They use triangle. Yeah, right.

Because they're the strongest. Strongest, baby. Shape. Let's talk triangles real quick. I like to ask people, fuck Mary killed. Equilateral, isosceles are scaling. I think you marry the equilateral. The isosceles, that's the one with one wide angle

and a long line. The isosceles is one that has like two or the same length. And then one is different length, I think. I'm looking up the isosceles. That would be the F word. I would F word that. Yeah, you'd fuck that one. It looks good.

Mine's a little bit. I fuck the scaling. OK. Because it's crazy as shit. You'll have a great time. And there's one character trait dragged out to 99. Yeah, yeah, it's like. I love that.

I'm looking at it like a Madden rating. I know you do too. The scaling is awesome for one night. The isosceles, I would marry the isosceles because it's pretty, it's cool. And it's also a little bit quirky. And you can see yourself not being bored with it. The equilateral is just, it's almost too perfect.

Perfect, yeah. See, and this reminds me of hanging out on the couch with Chris because we can talk about shit like this and deep dive it. And you guys do it with everybody. But you know Chris's mind. He's a UVA gentleman. He considers himself to be an educated person,

I guess you could say. Right, a man of the world. I don't. Junior college associate arts degree. You can go a long way with an associate arts degree. My cape and my hat. I don't even, it's my cap and my gown. Not my cape.

My cape and my gown. I'm not a super hero college. I'm not a superhero. It didn't even fit. I walked across and I was like, this shit doesn't even fit. But they're going to give me that piece of paper. I got that cape though. Chris is educated.

He wants a deep dive of everything. And I appreciate that about him. And that's why we play off each other well in the studio. Yes. All right. Awkward question for you for the Howie and Chris being around them. Do they ever like fuck with you and like, hey,

you don't have a super rolling? I mean, it has come up, I guess. If I were one of them, I would do that to you all the time. Dad does it all the time. I guess, you know, subconsciously, he does it. Without even doing it, I'm thinking that he's doing it in his mind. And it works, right?

Like you just think about him holding his hand like this with a ring over it. Or he'll just look at you and be like, not super bowl material. Yeah, not super bowl material. Hey, hey, I remember there was a lot of talks with him that was like, this is the test of a man. Or you're going to show up and play football when your team is three and 12.

It's week 16, and you're in, you know, whatever, Minnesota. And I probably give up a sack that day and blamed it on Jay not stepping up. No, that you didn't give up. As per usual. Go watch the film. Brian Robinson, good player. White guy.

You did not give up. You were a very good player. I'm going to give you my hall of fame. Who's better? You were Chris at the peak of your powers. Chris was a sack getter and a run stopper. I was probably a much better run blocker than I am a pass blocker.

He was more complete. He was an equilateral triangle. Yeah. Equiangular. Yeah. Yeah. Is it equiangular? I think it's you can say whatever.

Like equiangular sounds way cooler. You're not that sick. You're the fact that you even know what a triangle is with your cape and hat. Yeah, that's good. You're doing well. That's good. Yeah, yeah.

We're getting started on the right foot. Do you remember? I remember so vividly we went to a Blackhawks game. It was your rookie year. Yes. And it was like, you were like, this is awesome. Like everyone was like, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle. Fucking you're the man.

And then like. And then they're booing you out of the game. Yeah. And then like the bears happened. And you're like, oh, shit, this isn't as fun. It was a learning process, man. You guys are so good to me early, like particular you, Big Cat.

And I appreciate that. I've never thanked you publicly. But it's like, hey. You're welcome. You know, the media, I didn't know how to navigate it. It's a huge market out there. And I can see why guys like Justin Fields are struggling. Yeah.

And sometimes they're at a loss for words or the right words to say. Dude, I actually. Jay was like, go to the podium. I'm not fucking doing it. Yeah. And I had experience as a rookie. So I referenced you twice last week,

because Justin Fields obviously had his comments where he was like, we care more. And fans got mad about that. I said that was actually very similar. Remember after, I think it was the Dolphins game. And you were like, unacceptable for the fans to boo us. And everyone was like, no, fuck you, dude. It's unacceptable that you say that.

He needs a friend like you in Chicago to reach out and say, hey, like. Just don't say that. That's right. You're fucking right. But don't say it. But people's wounds are just as fresh as yours. And they can't wait to point two fingers, the middle ones

at you. And then the other one I referenced was we were talking. We were joking about how every podcast has a QB on every week now. And I was saying that Jay always did it the right way, because he did Waddle and Sylvie. And then as soon as the Bears season took a turn, he'd just be like, hey, Kyle, why don't you go fill in for me

for the rest of the season. I was the first one. It's funny that you mentioned it. Because you'd have to go after the worst losses. The first Jay Cutler show on a Monday evening in Wheeling was I'm sitting in front of the Jay Cutler show banner. And I'm talking to these guys. And the special guest that they had a big surprise for

was Brian Erlacher. So I got upstaged by the banner and the Hall of Famer. And then he took off his hat and he had a full head of hair. It was like my day kept compounding. It was getting worse. We lost. Jay didn't show up. Erlacher did.

He took his fucking hat off. He wasn't bald anymore. Dude, you were a trooper, though, because it was like literally after every bad loss, you'd just turn on the radio and be like, all right, welcome to the Jay Cutler show on Waddle and Sylvie. We got Kyle Long in today. Just like, so Kyle, when you guys lost by 2028 this weekend,

how'd that feel? You just sit there and take it. Like I missed seven blocks. I counted them. They were all my fault. So what is the roadmap? If you're giving Justin Fields advice on how to handle the media, because we've

talked about it a little bit. And I think I've come to the conclusion that there's a lot of stuff that you just have to lie about all the time. Like if you're, especially if you're a quarterback, you can't be honest. There's no way that you can be completely honest and have people happy with you, because, of course,

you don't give a shit about every single fan in attendance. You care more about the people that you go to work with every day that you practice with. I think everybody would feel that way. It's not to say that you don't care about the fans, but you probably care more about the guy that you spend 80 hours a week next to fighting with. You just can't say it.

So what would your advice be? Like what are some things not to say or some things that you found that you can just pull out of your ass at any time and just throw that out? Here's some red meat. There you go. Pretty basically, I would say be yourself, but always keep in mind how the message is going to be received.

So there's two parties to the phone call that you're making. You're going to say something, and then somebody's going to be on the receiving end, and how are they going to receive it? Be yourself. The emotion is going to be there. People don't need a calculator to figure out how you feel about it.

But the way you put it can set you up to have 20, 30, 40, 50 years of success in that city. People will love you based on how you treat them. And in large part, a lot of people aren't going to meet you. So what you say to them on camera feels like their first time meeting. Yeah, that's really smart. It's a good point to think about it.

Even if you have a mediocre career in a certain city, especially if it's a big city like Chicago, if you're just nice to the media there and fans like you, you're right. You will be set up if you want to get into opening restaurants or a car dealership or whatever. People are going to remember that guy. They're going to remember that.

I saw him on that interview one time. And he always played hard. He mentioned his kid. And you know what? I fucking respect him. He talked about bare weather and played hard. Yeah, all you have to do, Virginia the goal every week, we get the goal from Virginia.

Here's what she said. Play hard, nose, bear football. That's all they fucking care about. We should play hard and beat the shit out of people. And then beat the Packers. That's rule number one. So maybe as she thought about, let's let it fly or something. I don't know, play technically sound football.

Maybe just reversing one and two, beat the Packers one. And then beat them up too. Or just take it off the list. Was it weird when you went to Kansas City? Was it like, oh, this is how a regular organization is run? It was really, really a breath of fresh air for me being around the best in the game at multiple positions, at multiple coaching positions.

There were players that I remember from when I was growing up that were on the staff helping out. And players listen to those guys. You know what I'm saying? Dave Tobbe, the special teams legend from Chicago Bears. We had a rough one last week. We're going to give them a get out of jail free car just based on the pelts on the wall for Dave Tobbe.

Well, the roof was open. Yeah, Jim Hersey. PFT called it. The roof was open. That was fucked him up. He opened the roof. The sun came in on Kelsey's Touchdown catch. And Skymore.

And on Skymore. Skymore, it was two skies equals. No, it was too many skies. Too many skies. Too many skies. The skies is more. Yeah. So yeah, no, but it was, I'm sure,

like in being around my home. So yeah, I'll pick up where I left off. I'm sorry. So Andy Reed, first off, is a great coach, but it begins with his ability to teach. And he can find guys who need teaching. It's like that really cool high school teacher that you had, or that one teacher you remember

from middle school. You were like, fuck everybody, but that guy was awesome. And he had our backs. And he cared about us. That's Andy Reed. Yeah. And he loves working with misfit toys, and I consider myself one as well.

And he loved working on me and messing with me. Coming out of retirement, he had a lot of questions for me. Patrick went home, treated me like I'd play with him for 10 years. That's awesome. And I was slotted to be the starting right guard, and I broke my leg in the last week of OTAs. Pat fucking took me to his golf tournament in Hawaii.

Travis Kelsey treated me like a brother. And you love that. And you earned that through a career of treating people the right way. I go back to the Justin Fields thing. It's like, you treat your teammates the right way. You treat the fans the right way. You play the game the right way.

It all comes back to you. So what was it about? What does Andy Reed do in practice? Like, is he a hands-on guy? Because without ever having watched him in a practice or observed him close up, he seems like he's been around for so long that he would be a guy who could sit back and who could just design what the game plan is

going to be and not a hands-on coach's coach. Like Bobby Bowden in the tower versus a coach on the field. Yes, so what was his vibe? Andy's the guy that's walking around stretch lines and he'll slap you on the helmet and say something quirky. It's almost like the Joey Valonero skits where he does the coaches. Because that's exactly what it's like.

He's down there with the guys. Everybody loves it when Big Red comes up to you, says something. And when he leaves, everybody's going to find you for getting called out by the head coach in a good or a bad way. But Andy, he wears Air Force Ones every day, icy whites. He's got the knee-high socks on.

Shorts. He loves watching. I'm thinking in my head. He loves going to watch the offensive line during individuals. So like, right when stretch breaks and we go to our individual period, he's down there with the O-line. He loves watching O-line.

That's what he's into. I think that's why I took a liking to him, even more so than I already have. Yeah, what about my home? Did he get you a present? He did. Where did he get the O-line? And I love those stories.

I'm wearing it tonight, actually. That watch? Yeah, it's a Batman Rolex. Oh, that's nice. I don't have a nice watch. And he got the entire O-line watches. It's pretty sick. That's amazing.

Is that the best gift you've ever gotten? I've gotten some awesome gifts. But this has to be the one that I get the most use out of. You were obviously on the sideline for the Bill's game, right? Yeah, it was awesome. So I actually, weirdly enough, they were playing it, I think, on ESPN last night.

They were doing the mic'd up retrospective of the game. That moment when Travis Kelsey, with seven seconds left, just turned to Mahomes like, yo, I'm going to be open up the scene here. And then Mahomes was like, do it, do it, do it. Right before he snaps the ball. The play happened before the play. It was crazy.

It was like something I'd never seen before. And I'll go back to the things I was appreciative about being there, as you get to see the synergy of these Hall of Famers. Travis Kelsey puts in work when the offense and defense are over there doing their drills. Sometimes Travis will take five minutes, and I watch him. He goes to the other field, and he closes his eyes.

He walks through routes. He visualizes things. And you kind of laugh at him. You're like, what's Mr. Miyagi doing over there? And then he goes out, and you see the same three moves that he was practicing over there. Come to life on the field. It could be against the Chargers when he caught that ball

over the middle and went for goddamn 99, whatever the hell it was. The game was over. Same thing with the Bills game. It's Pat and Travis finding a way to link up. And man, it's so special to watch. It was very, very cool for him to just like backyard football. Be like, hey, look, I see the leverage.

Yeah, I see the leverage the quarterback has. I'm just going to run up the seam here and just hit me. And he did. And it was like, that was the game. And it was, I don't know. That was the first game that Chris went to when I was on the Chiefs. And because I was like, I was back in pads.

I was on the active roster. I was next man up. And I was ready. Were you in special teams? I was. And I was just back up right tackle, right guard. Ready to go. And every day I went against Frank Clark.

And at first I was on one and a half legs. And then they put me in a guard. And I had to figure out how to get on two legs against Chris Jones. Again, he landed on me inadvertently in the spring. And that's how I got my leg broken. But going back against him was like a mental hurdle. So I was ready to go.

That Bill's game, dad was there as well in the suite. So they got to watch that game. And dad now has an in-person appreciation for what Patrick can do and what the offense is capable of. Yeah. How long did it take? Or I guess this is valid this year too. But for you last year, how long did it

take an offensive line to gel? Because what I'm looking at right now is the Bengals, right? The Bengals, I guess in theory, upgraded their line. But we haven't seen the results of that just yet. So if you're putting misfit toys as you call it together, they might be talented, never played before. How long does that take to become like a unit? I would say it takes at least four to five live weeks

before you start to really feel comfortable playing next to a guy, let alone an entire patchwork offensive line. Now, the one thing you have to think about is two of their guys came from Super Bowl champion teams. They get a lineman from Keras, right? They get Keras from the Patriots. He's a Super Bowl winner. They get Alex Kappa from the Bucks Super Bowl winner.

You bring an absolute hit man in, Lael Collins, and put him at right tackle. You think it's going to work immediately. But then you go look at it and Jonah Williams is having technical issues on the left side. I talked about it on the Greenlight pod. He's flashing hands. He's dropping his hand instead of making

first significant touch. They want to pull a guy on power, but the deuce is getting blown up, and the puller can't make it around. It's like the fundamentals of football, which goes to your point. It takes a while for these guys to gel. They know how to play football, but they haven't figured out how to do it together yet.

Are there certain types of players that you would take longer than others to learn how to play next to? Oh, man, that's a really good question. Great question. Billy? A guy that's really easy to play next to. The easiest guy I ever played next to was Charles Leno.

Charles Leno Jr. of the Commanders. His technique was something that you saw repeated every day in practice. He worked it, and he did it intentionally. So if I'm watching him do his technique, if we get in a certain situation in the game, I know exactly how he's going to play it, because I've seen him do it a million times.

I haven't seen him do it another way. You get a guy who's a kind of a physical freak, but maybe not a technician. He gets in there. He goes, what we like to call, rogue in the offensive line rooms. Just like any means necessary. A guy gets pissed off.

Maybe he got beat in the last series, and the sack didn't happen, but he remembers that it happened. And he's pissed. He may go rogue. And his technique goes out of play. And if there's a combination with him in the center, if there's a combination with him in the tackle, he may not be in the right mindset to do the right technique.

A guy like Charles Leno, very easy to play next to. The guy who goes rogue, that's not good. Doesn't look good for him. Doesn't look good for me. And somebody's going to get hit. And I understand the mentality, because it's a physical position, that if you get beat, it's human nature to want to go back there

and want to get that guy back. You have to remain calm. And you have to understand that that play happened, and that you get another opportunity, and potentially dozens more, to go get after somebody. But you have to do it the right way. Who would you say on a football team, what room is the biggest group of psychos?

Would it be offensive line? OK. I've heard defensive linemen. No, I would say cornerbacks. If cornerbacks were any bigger, we would have to just put them all away. They just have so much confidence. And you have to.

You have to just put them away. Put them down. You just have so much confidence at all times. All cornerbacks. Safeties, there are some guys that are different. But the cornerbacks in particular are psychopaths. Defensive linemen are just standard Looney Binh characters. Yeah, cornerbacks, you have to be really good at cheating.

That's what I figured out about the position. The best players at the cornerback position are the ones who get away with cheating all the time. And they figured out the tricks of how you can cheat and not get caught. Because if you don't cheat playing cornerback, the rules are set up to the point where it's impossible to play the position fairly.

You can't be a good cornerback and not cheat. It's just actually not possible to do. Yeah, they're cheating in their technique, obviously. And sometimes they get away with it to your point. But they're also cheating in percentages. I played with Kyle Fuller, who is one of the best cheaters when it comes to prep. These guys are so confident in their percentages.

I know on third and seventh, he's going to throw that hitch. I know he's going to throw the hitch. And then he breaks on it, he makes it. Next third and seventh, I know he's going to throw the hitch. He's gone for a nine route. Yeah, right. Kyle Fuller led the league in picks because he prepared. A lot of corners don't prepare.

They just believe in their instinct and they trust their gut back to the psychopath. Yeah, craziest confidence by far on the field. It has to be. Because it's also the position like, you're on an island more than anyone else. You're not with your teammates half the time. They leave the league and pointing at other people.

My favorite is like, right as the ball is going over their head, they look around and they start looking like, where's my help? Where's my help? Right. And it's also the one position where you have literally an insult saying for every time they drop a ball, you're like, that's why they're not a wide receiver. And it's just like, oh, that sucks.

That's very true. And also, how about I have a real gripe with them celebrating when it's just a drop. Yeah, yeah. Or like, they do the incomplete sign. Or like it's an overthrown way out of bounds. Yeah. You're going to get roasted in meetings by your coach.

You're going to get roasted by your teammates. That's just dope. You've got to celebrate the small stuff though. You're right. Especially when you're on an island. Have at it. I would do it. I think it's, you know, the old saying,

like any day you wake up is a good day. Yeah. For them, it's like any pass that doesn't get completed to the person I'm directly assigned with covering, that's a good play. We can relate as offensive linemen there, because even if you get beat and you say, throw it, Jay. Yeah, right.

It gets the ball out and he gets murdered, but the ball gets out and it's not a sack. Hey, man. OK, here's a question that I feel like has, I feel like we've gotten a lot smarter, not us, but like media talking about offensive linemen and understanding what they're doing. Shout out to our guy, Jeff Schwartz.

I feel like he's at the forefront of helping people. Jeff Schwartz is smarter than you. Yeah, smarter than you. He says it right there in the podcast title. But how much would you say, like on a given Sunday, how many sacks are offensive linemen that's on them or it's the quarterback that's on them? They didn't step it up into a clean pocket.

They held the ball too long because I think we're starting to realize, like people will just say, oh, Joe Burrow sacked like 13 times. Like, well, you should watch because Joe Burrow, like, he's got balls. He'll hold on to the ball till the end. Like, that's actually a good job by his offensive linemen. That's kind of on him sometimes.

So Chris always says Joe Burrow's a quarterback without conscience. Yes. Yes, that's a great saying. And you know, he's going to keep pressing. He's going to keep throwing to B. Yes. Even if you know he's going to throw to B.

He's going to hit it. He's going to hit it last second. Because he's done it really hot before. Yeah. So to your point with the fuck. The sacks and how much you can attribute to, like, hey, that's offensive line. A lot of it, there's a third category.

And I'm trying to figure out how to say it. So defensive line wins. Right. Offensive line lack of technique or failure to be within the framework of our playbook. Sometimes a guy expects to have help. He doesn't have help. And it looks like shit on TV.

And it only looks like shit for one guy. And that's a left tackle. Right. Or like a tight end is supposed to chip. And he doesn't chip. And it's like, well, that kind of fucked me up. So there definitely needs to be, like, I would say out of if there was nine sacks in the game, or seven sacks

in the commander's game, right? I think it's nine. Nine. Nine. Yeah. I think it was five in a row. So I went and watched those sacks. And all five of those sacks in the first half

were on the offensive line. OK. Really? The Fletcher cock sack. The O-line got beat at the drop of a hat with an inside bull. The Hargrave sack, he beat him with the same move at the right defensive tackle spot.

Charles Leno got two great hands on the guy. And if you paused it on that still frame, you would think the guy at sweat was blocked. Sweat hit some with a two-hand swipe and gets to Carson. Then you get BG with a sack on the other side. They're all wins by the Eagles D-line. Right. Then you look at the second half.

Carson might be doing too much. Pat in the ball, floating around in the pocket, but not really moving anywhere. Like, my guy, Mitch Trebisky, I'll give him his credit. He gets out of the pocket with intent to go pull up somewhere else, but he's not going to linger around the pocket. I like this, because I know what you're saying.

Josh Allen's the same way. Right. He leaves Aaron Rodgers very similar, but his doesn't look as explosive as Josh Allen right now. Right, but no. Aaron Rodgers have always said, like Aaron Rodgers and Brady are very simple. Aaron Rodgers can run a little more.

Brady's slow as shit, but he can get out of there. Their mobility is actually one of their best attributes, because it's like they're saying, I'm going to slide this way and not take an extra step. It's not that they can run. It's not often built into the protection. They know which side the rush is coming from, which way the shell is, and where the corners could

be adding in late or linebackers, and they find a way to step up and find the sweet spot. Now, those quarterbacks are very rare, and they make a big live in doing it, obviously. But the rest of the field here doesn't do that. And Carson Wentz patted the ball a little bit. He was floating into his O'Lyman's backs. It's almost like he closed his eyes a little bit.

I think he does. No, he does. He actually gets anxiety in the middle of plays. I can relate to that. He's fine when he gets the ball, and then he's like, oh, shit. I have to play football right now. And then he panics, and then, yes, you're right. He closes his eyes, and then he just, he gets

sacked by his own offensive O'Lyman's backs probably three times a game. Yeah, he does. And that's just pocket presence. He needs to go back and play Madden 2009. They had those mini drills. Do you remember these mini drills where it was like the pad would just float after you?

You'd have to left stick around the pocket. Yeah, the circle, yeah. No right stick. You're just out there fucking. Yeah. What about a guy like we were joking on Wednesday show, Daniel Jones, who sometimes is internal clock. You're like, what is this?

Like, he just doesn't think there's ever going to be a defensive O'Lyman about to tackle him. And he's just like, he should. Because if you watch the film from the Micah Parsons debacle, he would understand that the right guard and the right tackle. And you know what, Shaq, I'm talking about. He was all over Twitter. He hit three guys.

The right guard doesn't even know what to do with a looping three technique. And Billy would be able to tell you what to do with a looping three technique. You're going to snap off. You're going to snap off the looper. Get him off the hip of your tackle. Then you can receive the next guy.

You know, it's a T first, and then an E comes. The T or the E, neither of them got blocked. Both of them got pushed over. That's what Daniel Jones is working with. We're going to get back to Kyle Long in a second before we do. It's brought to you by Simply Safe. The numbers don't lie.

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Go to simplysafe.com slash PMT. There's no safe like Simply Safe. And now, here's more Kyle Long. Who's the most fearsome defensive player that you played against? Was there a guy that you were like, this guy terrifies me. Yeah, not one that we think of. I'm going to give you a couple names, obviously.

2015, I played tackle. And we used everything and the kitchen sink against Khalil Mack when the Raiders came. That's not for you when they moved you to tackle. No sacks, that game. Two weeks before. OK, my first game of that year after they cut Jordan Mills, my best buddy, the right tackle.

They literally were like, Kyle, you can play tackle. They said, we need to sign a tackle. I was like, don't sign a tackle. I can play. And the back of my mind was like, if I can go block some people, they got to pay me like a tackle. Even the bottom of the barrel tackle

gets paid better than a guard. So that was your doing? Yeah. Because I felt bad for you because it was like, and I was learning a new fucking position. Most intimidating was week one, big cat. Julius Peppers, JFP, OK? And I gave up a sack on the third series or something

like that. And when I went to go block him while he was already in golfing Cutler, three of my fingers separated and were laying like this on my hand. I had to put him back. And they were like, get back out there. And I was like, god, I don't know. If I love football, there's much.

Yeah, dude, that sucks. I went back out there and blocked. And you know, remember the cast I wore for like, I wore a cast for one year. Because I wouldn't dare put my fingers on anything. I was such, and John Fox gave me so much shit. He said, Kyle, long missed a practice with a finger today. He made a point to say that at the end of all this.

Football sucks, man. Like, what the hell? I don't think that you could pay me enough money to have a job where I'd have to go in, dislocate all my fingers, take my other hand, put them back into place, and then go shove a 315 pound guy. And then a man who slaps you on the ass and says, get back in there, John.

Yeah, it sucks. The best was. You're not my dad. Chris once told me a story how he was like, this is what happens when you get injured. You get injured, and if you have to go in the locker room, they take you in the locker room. And then a guy who's like 150 pounds in khakis

in a team polo just stares at you kind of like sighing, like, you're not going to get back out there. And you have to just sit there and be like, fuck. There's always a decision to be made. You always have a choice, you know what I'm saying? Right. But that guy, he was like, that guy just stares at you. Take the red pill or the blue pill here.

And I'm not saying medicine. It's like two paths you're going to take. You're either not playing, and we're going to figure out how to get you to the train station. Well, you're going to get back in there, and you're going to help your damn team because you're a stud. Right, right. But he had that stuck with me when he told me that story.

He's like, there's just a guy who sits there. He looks like he should be an accountant. There's that you like, you pussy. And it's like, what do you mean? I'm my fucking finger. It's always an orthopedic surgeon. There's a room full of three guys, and I always talk about the guys in blazers, right?

It's like the men in black. You know the aliens are near. But the guys in blazers, you know that there's some MRIs coming when they're lingering. Yeah, so how does that work with the Hippocratic oath or whatever that doctors are supposed to take, which is do no harm? But in this case, the doctors are back there,

and they know that if this guy decides he's going to go back into a game, he's probably going to do harm. I would say that I was never pressured to go back into a game by a guy in a blazer. I was often guilt-tripped by trainers to get back into a game. Right. The guys that they have, they do work for the team,

the orthos. That's where they're going to send you to get shoulder surgery. And I've become friends with some of these guys. And they're a legit third party looking out for the guys. They're never going to say, get the fuck back in the game. You're a pussy. They're not going to say that to you. Definitely not to my face.

But the trainers, they'll say anything. You can't hit them. You're a pro bowler, right? Yeah. Of course you're a pro bowler. Are you bummed out about the pro bowl? I think that there should still be a list of pro bowlers at the end of every year.

And I think there should be some form of fan interactive experience where the guys get to showcase their personalities, first and foremost. I was thinking maybe American Gladiator style. Oh, the tennis ball gun. I want to see Russell Wilson in like a spiky shoulder padded thing up there shooting tennis ball guns at linebackers. And I want to see Aaron Donald on a giant catwalk

with one of those Gladiator sticks fucking people up. And then someone gets hurt. And then we're like, oh. And then I want to see a seven on seven game where the offensive line plays against the defensive line. And the quarterbacks are real quarterbacks. And you guys are running out and getting routes? I want to see Lane Johnson and Miles Garrett go man to man.

I want to see two of our best specimens on the field going at it. You know what I'm saying? Because you and me, we want to see freaks be freaks. Yeah, exactly. I don't care if there's a football. Europe, you're in the freak category. I always thought like, you are.

How much weight have you lost? I'm about 290 right now. So I was 340 when I was. I remember when we stayed at your house too. Like that was, we've told this story before, but like we stayed at your house for a few nights. You didn't even know we were there at the end. We got, we came up from your basement.

We're like, hey, Kyle, we're going to be out of here. And you were playing video games. You're like, oh, you guys are still here? But your fridge was elite. You had like, you had probably like 30 frozen pizzas in the freezer just. Shout out to my buddy Nick. Yeah.

He was living there. The whole time because you were just like, I got it. Like, I remember you pounded a full pizza at like 1130 at night. Wait, I pretended it was a chore. Well, no, you were just like, I got to keep, I got to keep my weight on. It was my fantasy, really.

It's playing the NFL. Like, I just, you know, you get to eat a gummy and then eat, you know, three Farentino's pizzas. Just pound some ice cream and do the whole thing. I love it. And then you're still 12% body fat at 330. All right. So how fast do you think you can throw a baseball right now?

Right now, it's funny you ask on the, on the way to the football field from where I park at the high school where I coach, there's a baseball field where I played at in high school and I would stop by there all the time. So I stopped by yesterday and they were just warming up. So I grabbed the baseball and I threw a couple and I was like, damn, I kind of got a live arm. And, and I walked away.

It was a good time to walk away. But when I got in the car and I shut the door, my shoulder went, ah, I was going to say, you should try to make a, a baseball. I need Tommy John and shoulder. You should make a baseball comeback. Cause what was your throwing at your peak? I was probably sitting 94 to 96 from the left side.

You are a freak. Are you, are you and Chris at the level in Charlottesville where just, if you just show up at a random field and you're like, Hey, let me get a couple of tosses in. They just like handy, whatever ball you want. Like I pushed the dads out of the way on the field. Like all the AAU dads are just sitting over there. I'm like, you get the fuck out of the way.

I'm 16. It's all, yeah. I'm Danny Almonte. No, I mean, it's, that's the high school I play that. So it's cool to walk up there and some kids don't realize who the fuck I am. And that's awesome. I love that.

Cause I'd love to make a first impression on, on people, but some kids are like, Hey, that's his name on the wall like seven times. Right. Right. How's your job as coach going? It's fun. It's frustrating.

It can be frustrating and it's rewarding. Any coach can probably relate to what I'm saying. I want nothing but the best for the dudes. I work them hard and there's some kids you're like, I would love to play with that guy. There's some kids on our team that I'm like, that's a dog. You're cut out mentally for the NFL.

I don't know if you have the, what it takes to go D one or play in the league, but some guys are tough. And then some guys are like, who made blink like this? If somebody made you come here. Yeah. Just mom getting you out of the house for a while.

Yeah. Please. We got to rescue. You need activities. I am the babysitter for some of these guys. Yeah. What's, uh, describe to me your offense. What kind of, what kind of sets we're running.

We like to run a lot of spread sets and we got only got a good running back. We got a Kristen McHaffrey type running back and we got a quarterback who can sling it around. So we put as many skill guys on the field and do a lot of empty protection, but you know, we're learning, we're learning some heavier formations. We worked on double teams this week

and coach long was getting his ass whooped in the double teams. I was like, if you can block me, you can block them. Right. You do jump in sometimes. I jump in there. I throw my hand on the ground and I'm like, Hey, they're like, how hard do you want me to go?

I'm like, please harder than you're going right now. Do you miss that? Do you miss contact? I do. You, you miss contact, but you never want to be like, all right, Johnny lineup, I'm going to show you what I'm driving. Yeah. That becomes a viral video very quickly. You're like, okay.

You guys can hit me and I want to prove a point that working together and being hip to hip is like, and you can be violent and you're still a nice kid. It's okay. Yeah. Do you, uh, do you still talk to Chip Kelly at all? I don't talk to Chip and I wish. Great dude.

You know, we got to have him on the show. He's great. I need to catch up. He talks to my dad and they text, I guess. Got it. And I don't, which is weird. I was, I was, I was lucky enough to spend like a long night at a bar with Chip Kelly over Superbowl. He's a beaut. Great dude.

He's a beaut. We got to have him on the show. He, he feels like he'd fit right in. Yeah. I mean, he, he revolutionized college football. Like everyone does what Chip Kelly did 10 years ago. And now they probably do it better. That offense was dominant. I never, I never more in my career, middle school,

little league, AAU high school. I never felt like we were going to win more than I did stepping off the bus with the Oregon Ducks offense. My favorite, like it's sad that like some of my favorite memories are just gambling memories, but that is unfortunately my brain. But one of my favorite gambling memories is betting on the Oregon Ducks and not even watching the game, but the lower third, the, the, the score bug,

switching over like a minute into the game, eight nothing Oregon. And you're like, oh, yep, we're going, we're going. We're doing it. Yes. Like literally like 1347 in the first quarter, eight nothing Oregon. They put a 48 against Fresno in the first half. Oh, I can shut off the app. Yeah. Right. This is sick.

Like they're going for too early. Like we used every inch of the field that we put a guy, Marcus Mariota at quarterback and gave him a chance to run a juggernaut offense with a bunch of freaks on the outside. And we had some good linemen on the inside too, but Chip Kelly knew it before we did. Yeah. And he put us in the right places. Yeah. Why, why, what's the difference between playing that offense in college

and then trying to take that to the NFL? Old man never worked. Old men, money. Really money, money convinces players not to go as hard in practice and train yourself to be on the ball after 12 seconds and catch the defense on their heels and be able to shove it down the defense's throat. And it's also, I always thought, because obviously Chip Kelly, that Eagles, like when they started that, that, you know,

that was at the first week, the Monday night football game, when they, when Michael Vick had it was like they scored like 42 points or something. No, it was, I think it was 52 to seven. It was crazy. That's like, go look at Nick Foles numbers. Right. It was crazy. It's like 50 touchdowns, like three interceptions or something like that. But, but I always thought the problem within the NFL is like, you have to,

you have to give your defense a break and you can't like, if you get, cause that the Chip Kelly offense is great, but if you get a three and out and it's like, you score a touchdown in a minute and then you get a three and out the next time and then you look up and you're like, wait, our defense has been on the field for this long. I never thought about it like that. I always think about it as you can rotate linemen if you're going really fast and you're trying to really out hustle everybody.

You can put in a bunch of Charlie hustle guys, spend all your money on skill guys that are actual track athletes that just run all day. Yeah. Yeah. What about, what I think is maybe the most impressive under talked about playing in football is at the end of a game, when you get a first down and you have to have your entire offensive line sprint like 30, 40 yards down the field, get to the line of scrimmage and then everyone has to stand completely still before they snap the ball and spike it to get the big dudes running down the

field that fast that quickly. And then to just like stop on a dime. How much does that suck? It sucks as a coach. I can imagine it sucks. It's awful as a player, particularly when you're moving down at the end of the game, you're fucking gassed. Yeah. And there was a number of times on the bears, we had come back games. I had dozens of two minute drills in the fourth quarter, someone, someone, some lost. I remember I was tired every single one of them. The thing is you got to sprint up there and there's,

there's always somebody lagging behind and you never want to be that guy because it shows on film and you're going to see it on Monday and the coach, you're going to call you out for it. The guys on the bus aren't going to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. I saw this one video of a lineman getting up to the line of scrimmage and then just staying perfectly still, but puking. Yeah. As a staff, the ball. That is just that epitomizes the mode of operations for offensive line under all circumstances, even if the sky is falling, you continue to fucking play football. What's the, uh, this might be a dumb

question, but if you, let's say a drive, right? What's the point in a drive? Is there like a, a play point, ninth, 10th, 11th play where you're like, this defense is gas. We got him. That's a really good question. And it was always whenever we'd cross the, you know, the, the opposing like 45 midfield is like the battleground. You know what I'm saying? But if you can put a dent in that defense's armor and move the chains once, then you can prove to yourself that's momentum. That's confidence. You know what

I'm saying? If we can repeat that again, and usually after you get a first down, be it on the ground, you can hit him with a hard play action and you get the energy turning or up at a place like soldier field, man. Yeah. And the other one that I always wonder in, in our good friend, Sam Schwartzstein, kind of like he put it in my ear that I never really thought about it, but the NFL, like everyone's fallen in love with the past. You see the bills against the dolphins. They ran like 90 plays. There weren't a lot of run plays as an offensive lineman.

That has like, you have to go forward at some point, right? Like, is there a point where you're like, we can't pass this much. We have to run the ball because just, just purely like going backwards constantly kills your offensive line in terms, you're talking in terms of stamina or stamina mentality. So I think it takes a huge mental hit on you as an offensive lineman. When you know you're going to be blocking, past blocking 50 plus times in a game and it becomes a big 12 shootout

because no offensive lineman wants to ever pass protect. Right. That's when he said that to me, I was like, Oh, we're on defense. Now the great offensive lineman, the elite guys, the Lane Johnson's of the world are going to put pause on people and they're playing offensively within the past game. There's not many guys who can do that from a mental standpoint, let alone a physical standpoint. We want to know where the ball's going,

what the snap count is, and that we are going to be able to hit them before they hit up. And that's the running game. Right. And that's why guys like Andy Heck, offensive line coaches stand on the table for runs and Andy reads like, I'm going to throw that song bitch 70 times. Right. That's Andy. Heck's like, well, if you want it, we got five yards right here on this. Right. Right. Cause I never really thought about it. Like I think everyone falls in love with

the past and the analytics of like, Oh yeah. Like passing on first down, it's a great move. And like you obviously can get more yards of the passing game. But if you just ask your big guys to go backwards for an entire game, it's going to suck for them and it's not going to be as if like you have to, and you can let them go off. You can flip that on its heels and say, we want them to be going backwards, which is the run game. And like statistically speaking, you take a look at teams that lead the league in rushing touchdowns,

running the football into the end zone is demoralizing for a defense. You ever take a still shot of the defense three seconds after a rushing touchdown scored heads down, hands on hips, a lot of forest gumping, point in hand, point in fingers. The past game, it's a quick touchdown. Okay. We'll get them back. They threw it in. We'll get it back. Yeah. We just saw what it looks like. It's easy. Yeah. The running game is like, go fucking replicate that. I love that mentality. Don't replicate that ass whooping. We just put on the defense. Right.

Because I assume you see it on, on Twitter sometimes where like some people in the analytics community would be like, why not just passport? Like got a passport. It's like, well, there, these are guys playing in this game. Like there's a mentality that involve is involved in this game. You got to run the ball just out of a pure, like, let them fucking put their hands on someone and go too many smart guys in the building now. Yeah. Too, too much brains in the building. I like there needs to be like run the ball. There needs to be a limit on like,

IQ points. Degrees. Yeah. Degrees accrued upstairs. Yeah. I would say the number of people who wear glasses. Yeah. Or have had LASIK. Yeah. We're at one in one out. That's why like, we got Jake in the room right now. Right. That's plenty of us. And I had LASIK. So yeah. What's the, what's the best block you've ever made? Best block I've ever made. Um, there was a run we had in Indianapolis, I believe, where Jordan Howard was running back to the right side. Was a good one.

It was a, you know, outside zone. We had another outside zone against Minnesota. That was a real fun play. I mean, I'm sure you guys could pull this up, but there's outside zone to the right. Both those plays, big explosive runs. You know, easy to find probably on Jordan's highlight. Yeah. Uh, every block I made for Matt Forte, um, because, because he makes you look great all the time. Any highlight film you're in with Matt Forte, you look sexy. Yeah. I thought you were going to say a deadspin when they posted your cock. Yeah.

That was a good highlight. They block them. Yeah. I was, I was mad for you. I was mad for you. It was a weird, it was, and you guys, uh, again, the homies. So we did a great. Yeah. We had John right after we tried to get out in front of him. That's how you do it. That's how you do it. Yeah. Get right on it. Like I saw, uh, did you guys see, I was like, I, I, I called you guy called you and I was like, cause Chris was fighting the good fight. Oh, he was mad cause fuck them. Yeah. Oh yeah. Big time. Fuck that. And now like, I really did a good job of like restoring it away mentally and not even like

thinking about it. But like, you know, no, no, no, no, no. But like recently I've been talking to Chris. I'm like, fuck them. Yeah. We got to do something about that. Yeah. And I called you and I was like, Hey, I got to make some jokes about this because I'm feeling some type of way right now. Right. Yeah. It was great. You get on the bus and they're like, Have you seen Twitter, bro? I'm like, what happened on Twitter, bro? Yeah. Oh, cool. We got to win. I didn't block anybody against the law that they were posting your, your cock. Yeah. I

feel like it should be against the law. Like you didn't. We'll sue him for it. You want to make me calm down there and handle it. Yeah. And also I showed face here today. I know you've talked about this before. They had the air conditioning humming in that lock. It worked. It was efficient. You know, it's a balmy evening. So there was some moisture in the air. There was cool air. You always were a cold shower guy after a game. I was on a cold tub therapy before all these fucking gurus because you're a fucking, you're a warrior. And you're doing Wim Hof, weren't you? Yeah. Your body was swimming in cold water all fucking

day. Yeah. You're doing Wim Hof before you're doing your breathing exercises. Cold minus 80. I get in there and I just go Joe Rogan on it. Oh, like you're on a rollercoaster in the drop part of that was a messed up day in sports. I just say like we, we had your back on that one for sure. Salute to all the soldiers. I'll say it and it sounds sentimental, but like I learned through bar stool, like there are, it's hard to be friends with guys because eventually you have to criticize them. So like I, I made some friends early on and those guys are my friends forever and you're one of

them. And it's like, I now probably keep a little more distance because like I probably have to criticize this guy, but I always like felt personally attacked when people would attack you. And it's like, you know, it was cool that I was able to, I got cut out of Jay, Jay's life for like five. You got cut out too, right? For a few years. Oh, Cutler. I thought he got cut out of his life. No, no, you got, you got cut out of Jay's life for a while. You know, Cutty has to keep his distance. Yeah. He cuts you in. Then he brings you back. That's how it goes. Yeah. He gets you hungry again. Shout out to Cutty. I went like five years

where I was cut out, but I'm back. Yeah. Yeah. Are you back? I've been, I was chasing the train for like two years and I slowed down enough when I grabbed on your back. Yeah. I think it's got good. It's got good. Good. Good. It's good that we're back. Yeah. We're both back. Shout out to us. Come back players of the year. Yeah. It was, it was a time where it was like, I may never be back, but I'm back. Yeah. He's got a good system. He keeps you hungry. It's like, Oh, you're low key. He's the most low key mysterious guy ever. Yeah. Like, Oh, one day you just won't get a text back and then that won't happen for five years.

Yeah. He leaves you just waiting, huh? Should we get Billy involved? Cause Billy, the first time Billy met Kyle, I think Billy looks at Kyle like, like Steve Irwin looked at gigantic crocodiles where Billy was just super impressed with your size. Yeah. He loves to look at you. And he's like, he studies you. No, no, crazy story. So it was when I first started, I was an intern in summer 2017. So he met Kyle first and we were going to JJ. And so seeing Kyle was like, Holy, like, you know, when you have a dog and like, I have a big dog and you see other dogs and they're like that, even though like

just juxtaposition, like that's a tiny dog compared to my dog. Yeah. I was with that's how I look at whitey compared to what it was. Yeah, exactly. So I'm with Kyle. We're not talking about Cox anymore, right? No, no, no. We didn't see each other. Cox. So we asked him. I was 18. That was a joke, mom. So then when we saw JJ Watt, I was looking at JJ Watt and I was like, Oh,

this guy's in that big compared to Kyle. Yeah. Like, like seeing JJ Watt, like you at that time dwarfed JJ Watt. Yeah. No, you were blue. My mind. Yeah. You and Lane Johnson, I always said, like, when people are like, Oh, offensive linemen are great athletes. Like look at Kyle Long and look at Lane Johnson and tell me that. And Lane's, Lane's in a different, you know, like Simeon Rice used to say, I'm in a different, like what did he say? Echelon. Yeah. Different. Whatever. That's Lane Johnson. He's like extra terrestrial. He ran like a four eight or something. Yeah. He beat me by like a point one. Yeah. What did you run?

Armstead. Him and Taram Arts, Taram, Armstead beat me. And I think I ran like a four, eight, eight or four, nine or something. It's all natural too. Natty, like fresh off of, you know, maybe a can of dip at a power bar. Did you ever, you ever get a carry in the NFL? Everyone in the Fumble, Ruski? I caught a ball off a tip drill in Minnesota and then Brian Robinson. And I believe, what was the other defensive end's name from Minnesota that was killing us? Oh, no, no, no, no. Fuck. They cut me in half. Yeah. Like this. That's what it always happens like that. You remember the, um, the

Marshall Newhouse play? Yes. Where he got flipped over. Yes. That was, he, his eyes got as wide as like saucers. Like the guy, the Miami Dolphins guy. Yeah. No, that's our guy. Marshall Newhouse. No, no, no, no. That's a different guy. New Miami Dolphins guy from last year. Yeah. When the old lineman went head over heels at the goal line. Yeah. That was a beautiful play. They've been on a hitting streak ever since. Yeah. So maybe the, the strat is throw the football to the fat guys. What about, um, have you ever been used as a fullback in high school? Yeah. They should have used you as a fullback in the NFL. They started to do

that more often. I think I'm too tall for that. You think so? Yeah. But yeah, you, but you got good hip flexibility, good hip flexibility. You can get low if you want to. Yeah. But you got to start low. You know, you can't just run in there high and then get low. That's why fullbacks are just built by God. Very low. That's true. Um, what was the hardest thing Griffin ever seen Griffin sawed me and asked, okay, I was going to drive me nuts if I didn't look up his name. A lot of sex. I heard that name a lot. Yes. Yes. What's the, uh, what's the hardest you've ever been hit by somebody? My rookie year, I believe it

was, I pulled against the Bengals and Ray Maluga was there on power and his head is as large as the pumpkin that my brother's going to float down the fucking James River. And he hit me so hard I could have sworn I had a concussion. I never asked anybody about it. I just kind of went, I went along with my dad trying to block Gino. I said, well, that fucking hurt. And now I got to go block Gino. That sucked. What else? What other questions you got, Billy? It's been a long time. I mean, it's been five years since I saw. What's your weekend? What's your Saturday? What's your, what's your favorite thing

about being here since I saw you last? Cause when you started, you were like, man, it's just fucking crazy. You know, I'm just trying to hang on here. Yeah. I mean, being here, it's, there's always something new. It's always, you always are excited to just like on a Sunday to just get in and get involved and really just hang out here. Like, yeah, you got, you're going to do a Sunday with us. We come in Sundays at like noon. Do I bring beer? No, we don't drink on Sunday. Cause we're here till like two in the morning. You can drink beer. I thought it was religious. You can. You guys. Okay, great. Great. Great. But keep the beer

away from other people who will not be named. So this is like Truman show in terms of like, yeah, we're just all hanging out, getting fucked up and watching sports. And then it's like, Hey, you got to sign the waiver. Yeah. Well, the thing is like people think that we get fucked up and sit around watching playing that opera. Yeah. But, but I wish that's what we did. Yeah. It'd be great. It'd be great. It'd be fun. Yeah. Come to me and Chris is maybe we'll do it one, one Sunday. Just have a Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. People will always say like on the streams, like they'll be watching us on the streams and be like, not a

beer in sight. What is this? Well, it's our job. So that's right. Yeah. It's like, yeah. I would like to drink and sit on my couch all Sunday. Trust me. You don't want us to drink because you're not going to want to watch. No, yeah. Yeah. Drunk. We do get angry. We do it a couple of times a year. It's funny, but more than that. And it's like, what are you guys doing? Yeah. Yeah. We're about carried away. What about you and Chris? We've had a couple of people asked me and big cat this recently, like when we fight. And I'm always curious to know because you, you know, you do a podcast. Of course, you seem like you're close. You guys seem

like you're good friends. You guys ever fight about anything? Oh, yeah. I mean, we fight all the time about stuff. And we're getting more adult about it as we get older. But Oh, nice. Disagreements. Disagreements are really, you know, like even harder than fights because fights, there's some closure to it, at least physically. But yeah, we never really fist fought or anything. We had the rare opportunity to play against each other. And, you know, I broke his rib once and there was an actual brawl in St. Louis in the rookie year on Thanksgiving and, you know, punches were thrown, kicks were allegedly kicked.

Didn't you kiss him? Hold on a second. You always kiss. I heard that. Who knows? Who knows that me and Chris kiss? I heard you. I heard you. Who told? Did you guys fucking? I heard you kissed him during a game. I kissed him too. Yeah. He walked in. He kissed him. Oh, handsome. That's Jason. Yeah, that girl right there. That's amazing. Yeah. That's his name. You kind of look like a Jason Kelsey stunt double too. Oh, that was nice. I was told that I'm a big Eagles fan too. Oh my God. I'm from the area. I was told that one time at a Lulu lemon. Best

compliment I've ever gotten before in my entire life. That is incredible. Has how we ever had to step in to be like fight? Yeah. I mean, yeah, sometimes the disagreements pour over into almost fights. Yeah, right. Unless, you know, until the flat top shows up and he's like, the flat top shows up. It's like Batman. The bat symbol comes up. You got to be like, like you see your dad and you're like, I get to look like that when I'm that old. Like he's a fucking stud. I know his habits and I know my habits. Oh, okay. He's clean living.

I'm going to put these genetics to the test. Yeah. See how far you can push it. I still feel like when I see him on Fox on Sunday, he could kick everybody's ass in that room. That's very true. Yes. Like if he wants, he seems like he's the epitome of old man's strength right now. He is. And he's got heavy hands. He was like a national championship boxer in college. Jesus. You know what I'm saying? I think the story, I mean, I don't know. This is stories here. Dad doesn't talk about himself. So I hear this about from his like uncle and it's

like, Hey, national championship. I think your dad went out there. No robe. He was just shadow boxing and the other guy came out, saw your dad and just turned back around. And that was the, uh, that was the national championship. Just walked out. He's like, okay, I'll give it to this guy. Yeah, he wins. Yeah. Yeah. When you were growing up, did you ever think that Terry Hatcher was mom sometimes? No, but a lot of people asked me that, you know, my mom would pick him. Diane would pick me up at school and they'd be like,

where the fuck is your mom? And I'm like, Hey dude, I'm like, this is a strange way to get in a fight over your mom. Cause like it was the radio shack commercials, right? Radio shack. Shout out to radio shack. Yeah. They just, they put them in a room together. And then for some reason, all of America thought like, Oh, they're married. Yeah. Yeah. I guess they pitched. I don't know if they were trying to pitch it that way or what. I was like super young, but I can understand the confusion. Right. If I see two people on TV, I'm a simpleton. Like you're already painting the

picture for me. Right? Like you're telling me that they're together. Yeah. I thought he was in butthead. We're fucking for the longest time. Yeah. Um, all right, Brian and Stewie. I have one last question. It's a rowback question. Promo code take, use code promo code take for 20% off your Q zips, hoodies, polos, everything at rowback.com, RHO, BACK.com. Speaking of rowback, great golf gear. Uh, what are you shooting now? Cause I feel like you're one of those guys that like, I wouldn't be surprised if we similar to like

Danny Woodhead, our friend. You're like, Hey, I'm going to give this golf thing to try and oh shit. Kind of long just qualified for the U S open. I love golf, but I love my wife more. Okay. That's a good answer. Nice. You hit bombs. I wouldn't thank you. I mean, I see the game and I'm, I'm always in constant pursuit of, you know, trying to go lower. And I probably am trying to shoot 75 by Christmas. Okay. What's your lowest score? 79. Okay. I shot 72 at Shinnecock, but whatever. Saw that. Yeah. It was nice. Right? Scorecard. Yeah. It was sick.

Legit. I blew up on the last round on the 18th. I wish I hadn't. I would have shot 70 if I didn't have to go for 69. I'm going to try. I think I'll get it. I will say golf is one of those things where it's like, you can put your phone away. You can go out there. You can be in nature. Every course is different. It's almost like why I like to baseball as a kid. Cause every park was different dimensions, all that kind of thing. Every first hole is different and it's fucking dope. I mean, it's a great way to spend some hours with some friends.

You don't have to get fucked up because you're just fucked up on pure life. Yeah. I like that. Get fucked up on life. Get fucked up on life. Yeah. I love your wife. That's nice. Yeah. She's dope. And your dad. She's dope. I think it's the anti-gay. So gay. Fellas is a gay to love your wife. Yeah. You love her a little too much. I kissed him, but I do love my wife. And your dad. And I'm a dad. Shout out to Frankie, my six month old daughter, nearly six month old. Love it. Nice. Love it. She's built like me and she looks like my wife. And that's a problem. Okay. Well, maybe softball catcher.

Monster. Shot. Yeah. Was Jenny Finch. Yeah. The pitcher. Yeah. Oh my God. That's, you know, I don't know catchers. I just know pitchers. Dude. Also, I've always thought like softball, uh, like softball players are incredible athletes. Like it's fun when they, they have like the college world series of softball. And I also always think about how awesome it must be for them to then like the, the next portion of their life playing co-ed leagues and just dominate. Because like that's always like, you play in a co-ed league. It's like, Oh,

we'll hit it to this girl. Like, Oh, like, no, they just come in. There's nothing more girl power than just getting absolutely fucking railroaded by some like gals who used to play pro. Right. Like, I'll bring it in for her and then they just fucking hit it a bomb over their head. That's, that would be the coolest thing ever. Just boat race. Yeah. I also think they have the best like synchronized team celebrations. They're always on the same page. That's good. That's good. And there's a lot of behind the back, like finger pointing and stuff.

Yeah. I appreciate that. Oh, I got a question for you. Um, how, how many different handshakes did you have with teammates? Man, handshakes. I mean, I was pretty standard. I was just trying not to fuck the DAP up. Yeah. You know, I was trying not to be in the, the Barack Obama meme where he's like, Dapt it. He's like, handshake, handshake, handshake. I want to be a DAP guy. Yeah. Were you a DAP guy or were they shaking a hug? You know? Yeah. That's a good spot to be. Bill, you want to have one last question? Yeah.

You were doing a lot of woodworking in your backyard recently, right? Woodworking. Yeah. I was building some raised bed gardens. I had some 10 by eight. So really 10 by 10, uh, weather treated wood, 10 feet long. I built four big raised bed gardens. So my wife and I love to eat out of there every night. We get a little bit of basil if we're making pizza. Hell yeah. You really love her. Yeah. All that kind of stuff. She does, she does all that stuff. I just have to build it and they will come. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

Basil's actually basil. What do you think about that basil? Yeah. It's pretty cool. Right. I know. That was pretty cool. Yeah. I saw you with that wood. Yeah. I saw you got that. What's going on there? All right. Yeah. I want to know what you're playing. Thank you guys. Yeah. Well, Kyle, you're the best man. It's been too long. Where can the people watch you? Yeah. Again, thank you. Greenlight podcast on Mondays with Chris Long, my brother. And then every Sunday you can find me on CBS sports with that of the pregame show nine to 12. I'll be there this Sunday and you're doing a

Sunday with us. Yeah, absolutely. You have to do a Sunday because you're here in New York and then you leave. I might have to do the red eye drive from New York to Virginia. No, you just take like an eight o'clock flight out of LaGuardia. You watch all the games. What do you have to be home for is podcasts. Podcasts. We have, we have zoom here. You could zoom it. Why don't you, you know, the vibes aren't right unless you're at the desk together. You guys don't want to zoom with each other. You know what we should do is we should have fucking Chris come up to do the podcast here. I think that would be

watch the whole, the whole slate of Sunday. Do a home and home. Yeah. Yeah. I'm down for it. That would be great. We could do, we could do Sunday night takes and then we all sleep. And then it's like, well, everything we said was stupid. Here's what we think. And then Monday cleanup, everything that we got wrong six hours ago. Yeah. I can't wait to do it. Yeah. That's perfect. All right. Well, Kyle, it's always great to see you. Thank you, bro. How long is brought to you by three chi, whether you live in a state where marijuana is legal or not. Three Chi now offers federally legal dispensary grade

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stool five to take 5% off your order. That's promo code stool five. Take 5% off your order. Must be 21 or older to purchase. And now here's Blake Bortles. And now for something completely different. Okay, it is time every Wednesday. One question with the quarterback. We have the guy who is our favorite quarterback of all time. The first quarterback to appear on part of my team. Yeah. The first quarterback to appear on part of my take and the guy who we basically, we're going to just have him on every single week. Uh, it is our good, good friend, Blake Bortles. One question with the quarterback,

Blake Bortles. My question is, uh, we had a little bit of a discussion, possibly people reaching out to, to, to you to see if you could, you know, train, come in, you know, maybe be a backup. How are you, are you in good shape? Are you ready to be signed by a team? Maybe even the Patriots Hank is trying to, trying to hog all the blinks. I did it. I heard Hank mentioned that the other day and I appreciate that Hank. Um, I have not touched a football since January. Um, we'll cut that. We'll cut you. You start over. Start over. Start over. Start over.

What are we doing? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Blake, do you have, is there a football? We did your question. Be careful. But I've, I've got another question. No, you can't be careful. Oh, big cat. Do you think that maybe there's a football in Blake's backyard that he's in right now that he could just go over and touch? So he could be like, yeah, I touched a football this morning. I don't know. I wish I could ask him. Yeah, me too. I know I quietly, I didn't tell anybody I retired. I didn't tell anyone.

I guess you guys are kind of the first to hear it publicly maybe. Wait, you quiet quit. Wait, now you're quite quick. You have to ask a good follow up. You have to ask a follow up on this. This is an exclusive. Jesus Christ. Now there's a lot of pressure. Blake, hypothetically, for $15 million to your contract, would you consider coming out of retirement to join either the New England Patriots or the Denver Broncos? I know you're familiar with Nathaniel Hackett system. Absolutely. Two for 15 million. I'd be there in our beat. Okay. So you this really, we really fucked ourselves. But hey, Hank, what's your question?

How was your Saturday? It's great. Billy, you have a question? Go ahead. You have a question. How mobile are you feeling? No, we, we want, come on. We're trying to nail down a headline. Yeah, we, Jake, Jake, are you retired? No, no, no, no, shut the fuck up. Jake, Jake, you go. Go, Jake. I Blake, Jake Marsh, part of my take podcast. So in terms of your retirement, is a two year, $15 million contract the only thing that would get you out of retirement or are there other options?

Yeah, I'm pretty, pretty set with, with where I'm at in the decision. I mean, like if somebody were dumb enough to offer that kind of money, then it's kind of hard to pass on. Blake, as your agent, you're making it more difficult than it needs to be to get you millions of dollars here. We need to, we need to work on your pitch. Yeah, okay. I mean, we could, we could negotiate from 15. Okay, we'll start at 15, two years. I like that. Max, Max, you have a question. I just texted you something unrelated to this, but you have a question. Would you like to, is there any way that you could officially say that on this

recording that you're retired? He did. Are you ready? I'm officially retired. There it is. Okay. Well, we just had to reconfirm. I mean, it was, you know, we really box ourselves in with one question. He's, he's, he's officially retired, excluding a two year, $15 million deal. Correct, correct. Right. $15 million plus. That's on the table then. Yeah. Yeah. When we say that we're starting at 15, we mean we'll go up. Yeah, we will go up. No, I don't think so. I think it's just 15. So 16, no. The years are irrelevant. One, two, three, 10, no matter 15 numbers. Oh, that'll be

amazing. Yeah. Get him a 15 year deal. $15 million deal. Like the Bobby Banea contract, except you have to actually keep working until you're 60 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Blake, Blake signs over his children as well. So it's like he gets paid $100,000 a year for the next 300 years. I like that. That's good. Billy, go ahead. You didn't get a question. Go ahead. How are you actually feeling? Do you think you can get in a game? Yeah, probably. Like I'm still in shape. I work out occasionally. I mean, I think I could play. I don't know. I played catch with like some kids in the

neighborhood the other day for the first time. And like my arm was sore for a week. I mean, one game. I don't know if the arms in shape to throw more than like 40 balls and like a two week span. But I'm sure we can make one. But you're a dual threat. You're like, you have the highest career rushing average, I think, for any quarterback of all time. Do you see those stats when they go, fuck, there's another question. You can't do it. Yeah. How do I rephrase this? Well, you know what? Let's do this. I love, I love it when I see that stat go re-viral because it happens like three times a year where

it's like Blake Bortles, better rushing quarterback than Michael Vick. Yeah. What? Why don't we do this? Why don't we do this? Let's have you. This isn't a question. This is more of a just saying it out loud. Maybe next week you come on the on the show for a full interview. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds good. Okay. The outside of just one question. Yeah. We really fucked ourselves. This is the entire basis of this segment was basically like based on like having you on every week to ask you one question. And now we're just fucked. But so we'll for the AWLs who are probably going to be pissed off that we didn't ask any real

follow-ups next week. Blake will be on the show for a full interview. We'll make sure he's on a computer, not his phone in his backyard. And Blake, do you know it's not your fault? It was one question that was I said five minutes. You have a question for us. That's not wait. You have to not ask that. Oh yeah. I'll bet you Blake has a question for us. Yeah. There you go. I have a question for you guys. Could you just ask us what day next week? Yeah. What day next week do you guys think will work? Oh, you want to do you want to do you want to do Tuesday? Tuesday at 11. Tuesday at 11. That would work. It's just Tuesday at 11

worth. No. Well, I'll be on. I'll be driving. Okay. That's bad. Okay. I'll get home like Tuesday probably around like lunch. Okay. Yeah. Why don't we say two thirty? Let's say two thirty. Tuesday at two thirty. Yeah. Does that work? Okay. Awesome. All right. Tuesday at two thirty. We'll see you for a full Blake Bortles interview that will air on Wednesday. This was one question with Blake Bortles. Definitely took a turn. Congratulations. We have the exclusive. We have the exclusive. Maybe being retired. Maybe not being retired. Yeah. Either way, congrats. Yeah. No, we'll find out. I look forward to next Tuesday.

All right. And if anyone reaches out, don't don't tell them, you know, you wouldn't but you know, don't. Yeah. No, no. Okay. Exclusive. Pardon my take. You guys have really amped up. I think I told you the other or whenever that was like I really appreciated my once a year kind of public, you know, just Blake of the year and now, you know, we're kind of get we're exceeding the once a year. Yeah. Yeah. It's good to get you back in the rotation. You won't find any any bigger Blake Bortles defenders in the history of the world than us. I think I speak for everybody in this room when I say we would die for you. Yeah, I'd die for you.

I appreciate that. I'm for you all as well. Okay. I don't know about Billy, but yeah, no, that would be a waste of a death. Billy wouldn't want that. He's he's all about sacrifice. He wants to serve others. Yes. All right, Blake, we'll see you next Tuesday. Tuesday it is. I'll see you then. All right, thanks. Now word from a sponsor better help more athletes are speaking out about the importance of mental health, but you don't have to be a pro to want to be at the top of your game. Everyone needs to take care of their mental well being whether you're an athlete or not. Therapy is the best way to stay in peak

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want to? Yeah, as of as of about 17 minutes ago, the Steelers, Mike Tomlin announced Kenny Pickett is quarterback one. Whoa, we probably expected that though, right? Like they weren't going to go back to Mitch. Breaking news breaking news breaking news. Jerry breaking news. Oh, say it again, Jerry. Mike Tomlin has confirmed that Kenny Pickett's starting quarterback. Whoa, I can confirm that. Yep. I will also double confirm and I'll match. Yeah. And he also confirmed Mitch will still be a team captain going out for the coin. Oh, so that's weird. Now we're Kenny guys, but that makes you a little nervous. For what? No, it's

kind of weird. It's like if you start dating a girl and just the mic. So it's in your face. Her ex boyfriend is still making her breakfast every day. Yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know why he's still going out for the coin toss. Well, he must be a team leader. Well, yeah. But I mean, I feel like it's a little disrespectful to Mitch. No, I don't know a little bit. I'd say so. I'd say it's kind of disrespectful on both accounts. Yeah. All right. Let me ask you a question, Jerry. So Kenny's is starting quarterback. Have you ever showered in Kenny's house? That's a good question. Yes. Yes, I have. Oh, okay. Wow. So that's

a pretty tight friendship. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, I'd say pretty tight. Nice bathroom. Oh, really? Nice. What? What shower were we working with? Traditional waterhead or like was it one of those ones on the ceiling? How? What was it like? So it was it was traditional. Yeah. It was traditional. What size Lufa does use? Standard size or is it? No, you know, there was a Lufa in there, but I chose not to go that route. That's nice of you. I chose just to use the soap bar. So he's not a washcloth guy. Oh, use the soap bar? Yeah. That's kind of weird. Wait, you just put the soap, like the bar of soap, like on your armpits and your

balls and stuff. Did you have an option of a not soap bar? Yeah, you can use your hands. Was there a liquid soap? Yeah, like, yeah, was there no body wash or anything? No, there was. Oh, you went soap bar? You chose the soap bar. Yeah, that's the face bar. Had it been you? Wait, wait, wait, Jerry. You guys are, you guys are trying to use something to me right now. No, no, no, no, no. You put the face bar in your asshole. I don't want to talk about that. I'm sure they threw stuff away. No. After you show, you think you went in there and he's like, oh, this is Jerry's soap. We're throwing it away. We got to give the shower a

shower? Probably. Um, okay, so that's that's good to know that you, uh, you're tight with him now. Um, again, we're Kenny guys, always been Kenny guys. Love Kenny. Been on this show. We're current guests. Um, hypothetically, what if he has a bad game? What are we doing with that? Cause you had, you showered at the guy's house. Yeah, I mean, listen, uh, it's a rookie, man. Of course, there's going to be some bumps and bruises along the way. Um, you know, there's going to be times where you look at the game and like, wow, Kenny messed up this game. And then there's going to be times like, wow, Kenny really won this game for us.

Right. So it's going to be up and down all season. Okay. Yeah, I think you're actually in a very cool situation for an NFL fan, which is you have a new toy. Yeah. And you are like more so personally invest in this new toy than, than most fans are, but just like getting to spend a season rooting for your new toy to do cool stuff. That's a fun place to be. Like no real expectation. You just want to see a promise of like a bright future. Yeah, you know, I had that, I had that, uh, what do you call that moment when, when it, when it actually happens? Epiphany? Possibly. I was on the field pregame for the Steelers game, uh, last week against

the Jets. Oh, you know, Kenny comes out warming up, you know, uh, you know, I get the head nod from Mitch. Like they know who I am. Kenny had not from there's the guy who's been DMing my wife. No, no, no, no, come on. You're not going to do that. And then, you know, Pat recognized me, daps me up and stuff like that. So it was like a moment where I'm like, wow, man, you know, I'm such a diehard Steelers fan and like these guys know Jersey Jerry's where I felt great. Did you ever release the DMs, the Madden playing DMs? I, those have never been released. No. Can we do one reading of one of them?

Uh, you sure? Yeah, I think it was funny. We'll just do one. That was funny. Do you, do you have it? Yeah, I have, it's my home screen. How many, uh, before you started working here, what percentage of Steelers players would you say had received a DM from you at some point that like on the roster? Uh, man, um, I'd say 50%. 50%? Yeah. Did they give them right back? Huh? And you have them right back? You know what? I, a Steelers player has never, ever contacted me. No, until, until this past year, year or two. So why, you, you just kept writing them back though. You were like, eventually somebody's

going to. Exactly. I mean, listen, if you want something bad enough, you got to do some things, you know, you don't want to do. Yeah. So this was, um, this is my personal favorite. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. No, this is good. There's nothing bad about it. Uh, Jerry hit up, uh, Juju Smith Schuster's mom and said, hi, I'm a huge fan. Hi, Sammy. I'm a huge fan. She has 21,000 followers. So she's a public figure. She's a blue check mark. Hi, Sammy. I'm a huge fan of your son and a big fan of this Pittsburgh Steelers. Your son is so humble and is so refreshing to hear him talk and watching him play. If you can do me a

favor and see, maybe if he can play me in a game of Madden of PlayStation, it will make a 25 year old kid from New Jersey dream come true. I've been following him, watching all his games since he played at USC. That was nice. That's, that's a die hard fan. I think we're done now. I'm done. I think it's all I did. Listen, I like those messages that shows that you, you have, you, you are the grittiest fan I know. That's a fact. I think so too. Yeah. I mean, listen, one way or another, good. They're going to find out who I am. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? What about, what about the haters out there? Cause I'm sure

there are a lot of haters that might be like, Oh, Jersey Jerry is not blue collar anymore. Yeah. He's working in the big city. He's white collar. Now he's, he's rubbing elbows with a starting quarterback going out to nice dinners, using their shower and their soaps. What would you say to those people that say that's not blue collar? Hey, listen, I could still, I could still go back to work if I wanted to and still work just as hard. I still know what I'm doing. I just did, did my mom's kitchen. I mean, that's color. That is, you know what I mean? Yeah. So we did, we did the countertops and then we did, um, obviously

no appliances. That was really nice. And then the floor. That's beautiful. Yeah. Beautiful. Jersey Jerry takes care of his mom. I like that. Of course. Yeah. You can tell a lot about a guy from how they treat their mom. What? The cookbook. Yeah, that's true. So Jersey Jerry's, uh, uh, grandmother who's passed away. Nanny, nanny. What? She was my nanny. She was your nanny? That's like the name for it. That's the name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My grandmother passed away. She was incredible, incredible Italian cook, has an incredible cookbook, left it to Jersey Jerry, uh, before she passed away and Jerry will not share it with

his mom. Yeah. His mom asked for the recipes and he's like, no. Why are you making the meals for your mom? No, I'm not making the meals. No. So what she does is she tries to, you know, figure out what my, my nanny used to put in this, put in this and she's always so close, but it's never the same. It's in the cookbook. Why not? Because I want her to do it herself. Yeah. So she'll learn better if she can figure it out. Yeah, exactly. Will you give her any hints? Like, she likes to use the Bayzone to see if she saw it. Would you be benefiting? I mean, yeah, I would be benefiting, but it's like a game I'm playing with it. Yeah, it's great. I love that

story. You lose the game. Yeah, you do. You could say that. Yeah. I don't mind it. It's great. No, it's a great Jersey Jerry. I'll tell you what, she's getting closer and closer as the years go by. I love it. It actually makes sense if you could turn it into like, like an annual thing, maybe on Christmas, you, you release one more recipe. That's a good idea. You're on the Jerry vault. It's a good idea. Yeah, maybe publicly release it for the people. Yeah. You're one in a billion, Jerry. That's why I love you. Like those little stories. Your mom just working hard, hard to try to recreate her own mother's cooking and she just can't get it. And you're like,

I got the keys. Well, what she does every time is she calls me pal. So she'd be like, pal, is it, is it close? Is it the same? And I'll just be like, close, but not it. She's like, fuck you. I love it. I love it. Yeah. All right. So yeah, go ahead. I was just curious. I'm sure a lot of people want to know how, how things are going with the old digestive system. No accidents recently. No, no, nothing. No close calls either. That one just, it was, I don't know what went wrong. Yeah. You know, a lot, a lot went wrong. Yeah. It was like everything that possibly could have gone wrong. It was a nuclear meltdown. Yeah. It was Chernobyl. Yeah. Jerry shit himself on the train. Yeah. It's a catastrophe.

Everybody. I'll retweet it just so everyone sees it. Yeah. Yeah. I've retweeted it like a thousand times. It's a great video. It's an all time video. It is. It is. Okay. Let's do some questions. Hey Jerome, it's actually Gerard. I've made that mistake a few times. I think I've, I think I've, I've write in my ways though. I used to do it a lot. Have you ever gotten injured at a job? If so, how did you deal with that? I tore my pec on my first shift of my new contract. It really sucks because I was only one minute away from being off the clock. My boss is telling me I have to stay off work for at least six weeks and my crew, oh it is. It is. And my crew is badly struggling without me. We don't

look like the same crew without me at all. I feel like I'm soft because my brother also recently suffered a chest injury, a regular heartbreak and went back to work just four days later. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So I don't know the camera can't really see, but what do you call this finger? Ring finger? Ring finger. Yeah. So it's permanently dislocated and there's just nothing left to it. So I was working and I fucking hammered, hammered and then boom, slipped and hit, hit it, crushed it, never got it fixed. It pops out sometimes, but I was told like, hey, don't, don't report this because we can get in trouble for not having gloves on and we can, the whole crew can get in trouble. So I suck it up and I

just went back to work. Wow. Yeah. So I, team guy, whoever this guy is, I would say just suck it up, man. Get back to work. The team needs you, the crew needs you, get back to work. Probably got like some new guy that joined your team and you had to set an example for him. Exactly. Like this is how we do it on my team. But what if, what if the, what if the guy in question comes back and then gets re-injured and now it's like two years or he's out? That's another good question. I would say it doesn't matter at that point. I would say it doesn't matter. What do you mean? Like you have no choice but to come back. Yeah. Would you say like you should do more steroids to try to get back faster?

Well, I don't think this guy said that he was doing steroids. But if he were. Or he tore his pec, that's, I guess maybe I'm just reading between lines. Should he do more steroids or less steroids? I would say less steroids. Okay. So dial the current steroid use back a little bit. Last question about this guy and we don't know who this guy is, but like he gets injured and then he realizes like, Oh, I'm not, I'm not even healthy. I'm not even the best player on my team or on the league in this construction league. There's a guy in Dallas who's been playing crazy. Did TJ we DM you guys? No, no. No, someone just hypothetically, but what would you say to that? Like if, if say a guy who's been playing

some great linebacker ball down in Dallas, like some are saying he's the best player in the league, construction, construction. He's the best defensive construction player in the league for the Cowboys, Michael Parsons. I would say no. Okay. I would say the numbers tell a different story. Ah, interesting. You know, I think, I think there was another guy, forget what teams he on starts with an R. Just got his hundredth sack or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a guy named TJ. What he's on pace to shatter that. Oh, I mean, shatter it, not even close. But yeah, it's like the exact same position, right? They don't, but okay, next question. Meet a friend, got new discussion about what a blue

collar job actually is. I am a medical equipment technician, which I consider to be blue collar. He is a teacher, which he swears is as well. Thoughts. Yeah, I don't think the teacher is. I would say no to that. Not blue collar. What about medical equipment? That would say yeah, that was it's got the word technician in it. Yeah, it's got equipment in it. I what I don't know if a teacher is and it's no disrespect to teachers like half my family, half the members of my family are teachers. I have great respect for the teaching profession. But I don't think they'd say it's blue collar. I'd say that there's there's like a separate definition for being a teacher. Yeah, I think that they bring brown bags to work. Blue collar

brings lunch. I don't I don't I think they eat in a cafeteria. Yeah. No, you could say that teachers are lunch pail. They might not be color. They don't bring lunch pails. They bring they bring, you know, lunchboxes. That's a lunch pail. No, it's different. Yeah, the pails are hard. I think if you have a job where you could get thrown up on by anybody else, that's its own death. So like, I would put teachers almost in the same category as other like service workers. What about what about a lady who's working at a psych ward in a hospital that blue collar you think that seems I don't know if that's blue collar or not. It's mental blue collar. That's that's what we need. We need mental blue collar

because teachers would be the mental blue collar. Yeah, like that would be their category physically, maybe not. But mentally, that's blue collar work. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think teachers are blue collar. Shout out to all teachers. Best lunchtime day to take off and time to take a dump. Oh, great question. Best say that again. Lunchtime. We'll go one at a time. That's lunchtime. Okay, I would say best lunchtime 11. What were your hours? I mean, it started at like 630 and wouldn't get home to like 10. Where are they now? Wait, 630 to 10 p.m.? Yeah. No, that was every day. Pretty much for all the overtime. Yeah. Okay, overtime 11. That seems early. I would like to extend it. I like to take lunch in the

afternoon. I do like to take lunch really, really early and then do a double lunch in the afternoon. Can you do that? Yeah, he could, I guess. There's no problem. That's the move. The problem with taking taking that early lunch is it makes the afternoon. Every time you look at the clock, it goes by so slow. Yeah. If you had a lunch, like at 11 a.m., or back at noon, it feels like it's 5 p.m. you look at the clock. It's 2.10. Yeah. Day to take off. Best day to Friday. And best time to take a dump. Best time to take a dump right after breakfast while the crew's setting everything up. Oh, that's smart. Come out, everything's set up. Yeah. Wow. Good answers. What's the worst time to take a dump? On an

emergency. Right after Jerry on the train. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's probably one of the worst times you could. Yeah. Or on an airplane. Yeah. Airplane dumps are pretty bad too. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, last one. Jerry, when is it okay to snap back at your foreman? I worked as a roofer a couple summers ago and never talked back to my boss in my life until my short, angry, red-headed foreman was on my ass for everything. Some of it was maybe warranted, but one day he let me out for doing something wrong that he showed me how to do. After exchanging some fuck-yous, I feel like I was in the wrong since I was newer and should have just taken my lumps. Was I in the wrong? Thanks. Yeah, I'd say so. Never really supposed to talk back to those

guys. Chain of command. Yeah, they're in charge for a reason. You know, I mean, I remember specifically, you know, the foreman saying, hey, you don't like it on my crew, go find a different crew. Nice. You know what I mean? You're listening to what I say and listen, that guy happened to be a great guy that was nasty in the beginning. I mean, you look at your paycheck, there's a couple extra hours in there. You know what I mean? They take care of you. Yeah. You keep your mouth shut, they take care of you. You got a problem, come see me. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. That's it right there. But yeah, I know Eric was trying to jam me up, but my hours are pretty long right now. Yeah. What does that mean? That would mean I'd say about 10, 10, 10.30. I wake up about eight now,

7.45, 8.00. I get here 10.30. I'm out. I'm out by like 5.30 on a football night, a little bit later maybe. Is that true? Is that true that you're out 5.50? I would say some, I mean, today I'll be out at three. Yeah. I got a couple things business-wise to take care of, but I'd say for the most part, yeah, around 5.50. And you'll be back on streams on Sunday? Yes. You know, people have been asking like, hey, Jerry just isn't here. I don't think they've been asking. Yeah. If you could find a tweet on that, I think I'd give you some money. Okay. I mean, no, because somebody's going to do it now. What if I find a tweet right now? You would have to find a tweet. That's, and he'll give you some money. Yeah, it's best mostly. Okay. Jerry,

I like the new haircut people are asking. What was the motivation behind that? Yeah, this is a, I don't know, the camera, see there's a mullet. Yeah. Camera works, Jerry. Keep saying that. Huh? The camera's not going to get this. It's got it. It'll get it. It's a good look though. What was the inspiration for it? I'll tell you what, a couple of years, I mean, not even a couple of years ago, about a year ago, a year and a half ago, I had long hair. I had hair down to like, the back over here. Yeah. Yeah. You got any pictures? Yeah. I mean, I got a couple. I want to see some long, some shaggy Jerry. Yeah. I got, I got, I don't know, it'll take me maybe a couple of minutes to look it up. What do you, you're looking at something? Let me see that. Oh,

this is it right there. Read it out loud. This is where Jerry been on the streams, Kenny. What the hell? It's today, Dan. I have a burner account to get in Jerry's spaces. So I just made a Kenny Pickett as the avatar, so let me talk. Hey, what do you think? You have burner? Well, no, this was just for copyrighted music. Okay. Yeah. But like, what is your, I don't, I always wanted to know. No, I do not have. I don't either. I've got a burner account. Why though? I started because it's so much fun. Yeah. But like, are you like harassing people? Sometimes. You should never do it. Yeah. Never make a burner, right? Never make a burner. No. But it's fun. It's very fun. I know, but it's, I don't know. I don't, I was thinking about debating doing it,

but then I, are you don't you? Yeah, you don't need a burner. I would, I would suggest that you don't make a burner account. My burner, I wasn't really, I wasn't harassing people. I was just using it to get some takes off that maybe I felt like I used to be able to get off that now I can't get off anymore. Gotcha. You know, just kind of like a throwback just for me to enjoy. But you're, you're like, you have burner energy as a person. So you should just stay, you know what I mean? Yeah. I got myself in trouble a few times right here. Yeah. But that's okay. How are the dogs doing? Good. Good. I actually just ordered this new collar for Paul. Pauli peppers? Yeah, it's a shock one. Oh yeah. It's Pauli peppers, bad dog. Yeah. It's not the best dog. Yeah. He

treated that out. He's like, look at like one year ago today, Pauli peppers. And then we're supplied to his own treatment, like turns out Pauli peppers real dick. Do you have any, you got any new litters coming out? No, no, I'm done, man. That's harder than raising raising a kid, man. Yeah. Can you explain the methods like how you would, how you'd raise these puppies? How did you, how did you get before? Yeah. So pretty much you wait till the bitch is in heat. And her period will turn from a dark red to a really light red almost pink. Yeah. And then from there, you have the male go sniff her out. And then you fucking, you know, you do your thing with the male. Wait, you do? I do. Yeah. You jack him off. Yeah. Once he's smelt like he's, he's up there.

He's ready to go. He's smelling sniffing. He's horny. So he's like fake humping. He's not having sex with her. And then you're, you know, doing your thing. And then pretty much you jerk off the dog. Yeah. Why don't you actually like put, why don't you just let them fuck. So with the French Bulldogs, it's really weird. It's really hard for them to naturally do it for them to actually lock in place. They can do it. But like their legs are so short, it's so hard for them to, to actually lock. There's like a locking period that has to happen for, for it to work. So it's just easier just busting a cup, take out like a long, like flexible syringe thing, and then stick it all the, you have to stick it in the right way. Because yeah, it's crazy. There's two separate in

the. Yeah, the butt and the vagina. Can I say it? Okay. In the, in the, in the VJJ, you know, you have to hit the right spot because if you, if you go up, you're just putting it in the bladder. Yeah. Okay. Down is the uterus. And Kendrick Perkins has like a million dollar French Bulldog breeding. He does the same thing. Yes. Yeah. Do you think Kendrick Perkins actually jacks off his bulldogs? I would say he would probably have somebody do it for him. Well, I would pay more money for a bulldog. Yeah, I would like that got jacked off by Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, he's like a point. Yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah, that's actually not a bad idea. Yeah, we get certified, certified like this, this bulldog was made by Jersey Jerry, masturbating a bulldog. Yes. That's what you

should call your right hand, the VJJ. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right, numbers. Yes. 91 Blake, Blake Griffin. There's no chance. No chance. So Jerry, if you want to get the number right, just guess any number, but 91. How do you guys feel about Blake choosing or Blake being 91? Well, there's no numbers available in Boston. Is that the year he was born? That's what I figured. Maybe it's two years older than me. No, I feel like he's older. What number are you picking? Jerry 821. Oh, is that for Kenny Pickett? Yeah, he's born in 89. So yeah, I don't know. I just assume those I think they're just like 26. There's no numbers available 20 Celtics. They're all retired 69 for Billy. What was yours? PFT 21. I'll go with five for our friend Blake Bortles. What was your number, Jerry? Eight

for Kenny. Shower to his house. Oh, hey, 63. Oh, wait, did you guess that the other day? No, I feel like you did. Cubic lights are endangered because of habitat destruction. Love you guys. Is that real? Yeah. It's no better to be safe than something. Take me on, take on me, take on me, take on me, take on me, take on me, take on me, take on me.