Pardon My Take - Kyle Rudolph In Studio, Francis Ngannou Via Hologram, Saints Are On Quit Watch, NFL Week 7 Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Bo Nix Thursday Night and the Saints are officially on Quit watch (00:00:00-00:07:58). We talk playoff baseball and an incredible Guardians win and the Mets are dead because the Dodgers have too many dudes (00:07:58-00:14:09). NFL Week 7 picks and preview including the Packers gross jerseys, Hank's trap game, Lions/Vikings and a Super Bowl Rematch (00:14:09-01:29:55). Fantasy Fuccbois and our contest picks (01:29:55-01:36:40). Kyle Rudolph joins the show in studio to talk football, catching Tom Brady's last touchdown pass, the hardest he was ever hit, the Minnesota Love Boat and more (01:36:40-02:29:43). Francis Ngannou joins the show ahead of his return to MMA via a hologram and we talk fighting, Jackass and more (02:29:43-02:56:41). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:56:41-03:13:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Knicks baby. Yeah Bo Kn and Bo Nicks, baby. Yeah, Bo Nicks, Bo Nicks. He did it tonight. Kind of. He did all of it tonight. Broncos Russian game did it a lot. If you've ever wondered what taste some Hill would look like if he was a little bit better at passing and a little bit worse at running, you got the full Bo Nicks taste some Hill experience tonight because Sean Payton was doing the old Taysom Hill playbook for Bo Nicks and nobody loves calling their own number more than Bo Nicks. He drops back like he does the five step drop, looks one way

and he's like, fuck, Bo Nicks has to run this ball. Bo Nicks has to run this ball or throw it in between two wide open receivers. I, so when you were like, Bo Nicks was fun a couple of weeks ago, I was like, eh, I don't know. And I was thinking more about Oregon Bo Nicks watching tonight, like being able to take in a full Bo Nicks game without any other games going on. It's Auburn Bo Nicks and I'll agree. He is fun because he, he just, you don't know if it's going to be the worst pass or the best pass every single time he throws. We had full blown boat tonight. Yeah. He was doing nicks on it. And he was, it was the Broncos running game.

They ran it down their face. I think they had over 200 yards rushing and the Saints are officially on quit watch. I would like to opt out of watching the Saints this year. That 2-0 start baby. That how bad is Dallas? That's what tonight really told me. How bad are the Dallas Cowboys? Yeah.

Now obviously Derek Carr not playing That has a little bit to do it with it. I think but the fact remains that the Saints they're old They're not fun, and they're not getting any younger or more fun because right now We've talked for the last like five years about how the Saints have just been in cap Hell their entire life or the entire at least like feels like the last decade Right now they own this is from Jason OTC cap hell their entire life or the entire, at least like feels like the last decade. Uh, right now they own, this is from Jason OTC. They have only three players on the salary cap who had saved the team more than $3 million in cap room next year if they cut. Oh my God. So, uh,

their current 2025 salary cap position is the worst in the NFL of again. And how bad is it? Big cat. How bad? It's 75 million more in cap commitments than the next worst team Jesus and this is what happened. We're currently witnessing cap Hell and they also are like when I say quit watch obviously injuries happen But when key players start being like hamstring injury Weird knee injury and you're like, do we even see him get injured? It might be quit time. Dennis Allen, Richard Sherman said at halftime, he's like, they're trying to get Dennis Allen fired.

I wouldn't be shocked. And the Saints are just like, this was, so this was a bad game, but I kind of enjoyed it just from the fact that like, Thursday night football, the last two weeks we've had really good games. Thursday football should be bad. We should just embrace the bad and just like just bathe in just shitty gross football. Because you know you got all the football coming up. It's like the entry point to the weekend. And I kind of enjoyed the fact like even that first pass that Bo Nicks had where he split his wide receivers that were both two guys that were opening as wide open as you get missed both of them equally. Yeah. And, and, uh, but yeah, it was bad football

from the saints, uh, better football from the Broncos Broncos are feisty. They're defense good. Patrick Sertan wasn't even playing, uh, and Bo Nicks he's a roller coaster. He is a roller coaster. So, uh, yeah, it's funny that you bring up like what Thursday night football used to, because it's the one thing we, you know, old people like to be like back in my day, everything was better. No, it's like back in my like what Thursday night football used to because it's the one thing we you know old people like to be Like back in my day. Everything was better. No, it's like back in my day Thursday night football was shit Socks if you get good Thursday night games, that's not what Thursday night football is Thursday night football I think is at its peak when al Michaels is actively complaining about how shitty the game is the when I think Thursday night football I think Broncos Colts last year two years ago

When I think Thursday Night Football, I think Broncos Colts last year two years ago. Yeah, that was bad. That's it still will come because as the season goes on the Thursday Night Football games get worse that happens every year early season Thursday Night Football you can get some good like shootouts Then as the season goes along and everyone's banged up. It just gets worse and worse and worse and I love it. I love it. So Broncos Bet I mean they're four and three champ Sean Payton's doing a pretty good job. That Bo Nix design run on fourth and one was nice. That was some Sean Payton's like, I got both.

Like you said, I have Taysom Hill in Bo Nix. Yeah, he's running the Taysom Hill playbook and Bo Nix, he's not a great passer yet. He's not afraid to throw the ball, but he's not very good at doing it. No. But he's better at passing than Taysom is. Yeah. He's just just not as physical of runner, but they're doing like the exact same plays that they used to do with taste. I'm looking at the schedule for Thursday night football. We have a couple, uh, Vikings play next week, but it's at the Rams that we have Texans jets. That's going to be, that's good on Halloween Texans at jets. Okay. That, but that will be gross. On Halloween. Texans at Jets. Okay.

But that will be gross. Like it will be a good, like that's a good game on paper, but that will be a gross game because you know both defenses will just have their way and it will be like frustrated Aaron Rogers. And it's on Halloween. So there might be somebody in the stands that's dressed up as a fireman and who knows if he's going to get on the Jumbotron. Yeah.

That's a great Sunday game and a bad Thursday. I agree. I agree. And then, um, Bengals at Ravens. That will be fun. That'll be fun. Then we got commanders and Eagles for a perm week 12 Steelers Browns. I'm looking forward to that one. Oh, yeah. That one's gonna be take the under all right. What do you think? Let's guess the spread in advance. Thursday night,

November 21 Steelers at Browns Thursday night 35 and a half if Deshawn still playing is it gonna be Russie or is it gonna be Jesse I think it's be back to just back to Jesse I'm gonna say yeah 34 and I'm probably gonna take the over it's probably gonna lose yeah yeah all right so we also had some playoff baseball happen. Unbelievable comeback by the Guardians. They were down 2-0. They were down. They were up 3-1 and then Clausay comes in and who has been there lights out closer, blows the game. Season's over. Down 3-0. It's all for naught. Is back to back dingers by Judgenstanton. Yeah, and then the Guardians just hit just two huge bombs, a walk off and one in the ninth, or no, was it the ninth?

Two outs. Two outs in the ninth. And they're- Down two. That's the beauty of playoff baseball is like, do I think the Guardians are going to win this series? No, but that type of game, you just never know. Do you see the video of the stadium? They got the audio reaction of the stadium

from like a mile away. It was rock and it was sick. It was incredible. I, the guardians, I think they'll win one more game. I think the Yankees are, are the better team six, but they whoever wins the next game. Oh, wait, wait, but no, the series doesn't start until the road team wins a game. Right. A-Rod taught me that I'm just happy for guardians fans because that felt like, uh, it was just going just gonna be doom and gloom no chance to even celebrate You know you beat the Tigers obviously, but then you go to the Yankees and you get swept or losing five But that was an awesome awesome scene and now they got hope and now they got life now They don't have to go back to the Browns. Yeah

and then the Mets are Memes The game is not over It is seven to two. So three we still have three Three white morning Three nine more outs. There's nine more outs So if we are wrong if we're alright if we're wrong up to this point We're dead, okay, but I was gonna say if we're alright if we're wrong up to this point we're dead okay but I was gonna say if we're wrong because we the the Thursday football game is so bad

we're like Gary we can just start recording and this Mets Dodgers game 7-2 if we're wrong before we get to our picks and preview I want a solo three minutes of memes three minutes of memes just going like Coward just talking to Francesca. Yeah names Francesca. You could do three minutes, but I need it to be three minutes I don't want you to be like, you know what and no Jets talk and you and you can't You can't do karaoke tequila either. Yeah You can't do karaoke tequila either. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll get, I'll get the cohost. Oh yeah. I know. Pug should open up the three minutes with 30 seconds of pug. You know, I want, I want pug in memes in these seats. Okay. Yeah. That would be doubt. I mean now

I'm kind of rooting for the Mets to come back. And if the Mets come back, then we should have seen that coming. Yeah. Because this is what the Mets do. That's true. Unfortunately they didn't come back. They lost. It feels like the magic. The Dodgers are just too good and get too many they have too many dudes. And like I mean, it started with show a hitting a bomb and the first that home run he hit on Wednesday night. That was a he put it on the moon. Did they see how easy did they measure how far it went? I know it was the upper deck like the middle of the upper deck, but was there tape measure on there? Max gonna look it up. Okay, max gonna look it up Max gonna look it up cuz sometimes those balls that go into the upper deck I expect them to come back and say there's a 470 foot home run and they say it's like 390 yeah, because it's the height. Yeah height of it. The height is overrated. I've always said that

Yeah, because it's the height. Yeah, the height of it. The height is overrated. I've always said that. He's gonna look it up. Mac said he's struggling. Too many leadoff walks though for the Mets given to the Dodgers. And Shohei finally got a hit when there were no runners on base. That was a weird stat that he had. Yeah, now he's 1 for 21. 1 for 21 in the playoffs with runners on base, which is, it's crazy. At some point you have to think about not having him hit leadoff right? Yeah? Yeah, you'd think so What is it? What do we got? Struggling go to stack cast

Just go to the box score Yeah, I thought I've realized that right when I said I was struggling come on max Come on max all right. How far do you think it was big cat? I think it was a you're you're right that they they always those upper deckers are the best Spencer rattler just through The most Jamis Winston interception not James Winston and the Broncos are gonna score again. I'm gonna say it was four thirty eight Oh I'm gonna say it was 438. Oh 397 that's bullshit. That is bullshit right now that went halfway as wrong. That's wrong. I don't trust that shit

32 to 3 is a very funny school. Maybe square. Got me. Let me look up square. Got me Might be a square. Got me that would make 33 is a tough number to hit That's a that doesn't feel like a football number. No 33. Because like you get 34 sometimes you have to make sense 35 obviously Spencer rattler. I feel bad for Spencer rather he doesn't really he's lost like his entire offensive line. A lot of it was out. Shaheed was out. Brutal. I think they had eight starters out today. Yeah, so they I think they had three actual starters on offense that we're playing. Yeah. Okay. Do we have anything else? And maybe we'll maybe we'll have memes on in a second. And

not us. No, there's no chance. There's no chance seems I think I'd run around base. I'm rooting for it memes. I would love to see if it gets tied. You still have to do it I'm it not even a ways. Yeah. Yeah, if it gets tied, that would be crazy if it got seven seven Then what would he talk about he'd talk about them losing and coming all the way back You'd have to do it's three minutes of Mets country minutes of Mets content. You want to do it anyway? I kind of want to see it. Oh Puggin memes in the big chair Yeah, all right, okay, all right. Let's let's kick it to ourselves. Let's talk some week seven NFL picks and preview. Okay, before we get to our weekend preview, Cores Light,

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man I crushed last weekend. I had a, well not you Hank, we we know that I had the best weekend of the year. I'm smart. I know this league. I know exactly what's going to happen. Just remember that on Monday, it was reported that it was the worst weekend Vegas has had in like 20 years really makes me feel like a sucker. It was one of the best weekends for for favorites of all time. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy. So this is a trap

weekend. Watch out. Don't fall for the traps. Come in your trap. Take your trap. Yeah, Kirk Cusso. memes. How do you feel about screwing that quote up? And how many times did people get mad at you online? Which quote? The Kirk Cousins one. Come in your trap. Steal your trap. Take your trap. Come in your trap. Take your trap. Come in your trap steal your trap Take your trap come in your trap take your trap come in your trap pull out of your trap take your trap Come on, it was messed up. Well, you said Kirk Cousins talking about his upcoming game in Seattle He was talking about his game in Wait, whoa, Tony Bennett is retiring breaking moves the singer Breaking moves Virginia head coach Tony Bennett is retiring breaking moves the singer Breaking moves Virginia head coach Tony Bennett is retiring. How about that hell man memes off the hook

So is Virginia gonna be fun this year? I don't know. It's a they can't they can't do that They can't you can't do a switch right? Oh, you can't switch up your style No, that's a weird out of nowhere and then who's gonna take his spot and is is it probably gonna be an assistant, right? Yeah, I always wanted Tony Bennett to come come to Wisconsin. But uh, wow, Tony Bennett retiring Okay, uh memes comments on the screwing up of that quote I'll take full accountability. Okay. Okay. Good. I'll take full accountability. Okay. Okay. Good. Good. I'll take full accountability. There's a trust issue with when I send stuff to Shane. Oh no. And I didn't overlook it when sending and that happens. Did you send talking about his upcoming game in Seattle?

I sent him the video. Oh and Shane editorialized but you're gonna I ability because I press end. I just didn't read it. It was walk into your trap. Take over your trap Yeah, you're talking about the Panthers. That was a main quote Kirk cousins has become the most Atlanta guy in the world Mm-hmm. I love it. I love it. Yes No, nothing brings me more joy than just seeing like after a game when Kirk cousins puts on his little like mascot chains Yeah, and they're everybody do like claps for him. Like, look, look at our little boy jumping around. It's the best. It's the best. We does the Taylor Swift dance the swag surf. Yeah, swag and surf. Okay. So London, let's start there. Hank. Will you

be waking up for this game? Yes, bro. Yes. Yes, bro. The whole game. You're in London time. Drake may. Yeah. In London going up against the Jaguars. How are we feeling? This is a trap game. You said this is this is the trap week. I don't know. I don't think the Patriots have a trap game. Yeah, neither can the Jaguars. Yeah, it's untrapped. But the Jaguars are I guess the Jaguars could be a trap game but not against another one in five team But the Jaguars are rested. That's true. But you knew that so that's a trap that you know But I think people are are I'm just worried that you know, Jack was a favorite. Yeah, they are five and a half That's okay. It cannot be a cannot be a trap game for the Patriots. Yeah, that doesn't make sense You can't have a trap one. There's a lot of people out. You don't know sure that are like

That doesn't make sense. You can't have a trap one if you're a lot of people out there. I'm sure that are like The Patriots Drake made looked really good Explosive offense, but you lost by 20 Jaguars are terrible, but there was some there were some fluky turnovers Okay, Jaguars are bad. This is gonna be Drake may is coming out show and I'm just worried that you know the travel You know the Jaguars being acclimated not traveling I'm just worried that you know people think that this is gonna be Drake Mays coming out party And it just might not be yet. Okay. Are these people in the room with us right now? No, I'm prepared for the trap. I'm not falling into that trap. You're not gonna take over the trap Not the London trap, I think the Drake Mays can have a good game. Are you worried about his health?

You got an MRI that was a scary, was that a real story? Yes. Who reported it? I thought a lot of people did. I saw last night, uh, the Patriots reporter, Ben Bowlin, I think was the one who reported it. No one else reported it except him. I just saw that he, he took an MRI. And then after there was no concerns after the NRI. And then I saw a tweet from an account saying Mr. fill me up who said IDM Ben Volin and told him Drake may had an MRI. Hope this helps. So it might've been he might've been a fake MRI. He might've eaten the trash. It might've

been a fake MRI or fake fake MRI story. Drake may was a full participant at practice. There's no great concern regarding his injury and NFL networks insiders in rapport. Mike Garofolo. That was the follow up that they I think only one guy reported that he had an M.R.I. May was on the Patriots injury report. Yes. So the team actually listed them on there with a knee injury. The Patriots would never play fast and loose with the league's injury policy. They did not deny him having an MRI. But they did not confirm it either. Correct. That would be funny though if you got caught by some guy being like, Hey, Kurt, you got an MRI. I think the Patriots are going to be a live dog here. So I don't know how the Jaguars are favored by five and a half. I don't know. That's a lot. It's a lot sounds like a trap a trap to take the Jaguars

No, because they shouldn't be favored by five if this line was three. I'd be like, oh that makes sense They're five and a half point favorites over the Jaguars are bad Which is why they're gonna you see that you like the Jaguars are bad I'm gonna take the page, but the Patriots are also bad. You're forgetting that part of this equation But when you see you can't have Jaguars are a trap game, but the Patriots are also bad you're forgetting that part of this equation but when you see you guys have Jaguars are a trap game but the Patriots are equally as I think you're just ahead no it's how the line makes no sense what's happening inside the Jaguars are really bad what's happening inside said is that Hank is thinking about the Patriots as a collective like football team that he knows and the Jaguars as a collective

football team that he knows and he's like why are the Jaguars Favored by five and a half. I think I was favored by five and a half over anyone, but the Patriots are also bad I know I Don't think you can it can't be a trap game if you're an underdog Let me just you struggle with no, I know Let me just you struggle with me. No, I know Okay, big cat Dan cats I think this line makes no sense the Jaguars shouldn't be favored five and a half of hers anyone the Patriots are gonna be live dogs So it sounds like you're gonna bet the Patriots. Yeah, which probably that might be no, it's not a trap

I'm gonna take the picture Hanks talking about the trap Hank is hypothesizing. There's a double trap. So we should take the Jaguars Yes, okay. That's my point. Got it. I think you might that there's a double trap. So we should take the Jaguars? Yes. Okay. That's my point. Got it. I think you might be trapping yourself. No. You guys just explain my whole point.

All right. So when we first started this conversation when you said trap game, I was thinking like a good team going to play a bad team, overlooking them. That's the trap game. You're just talking strictly on the line, that's a trap. Yeah, you're overlooking how bad the Patriots are because the Jaguars are also bad. Okay, that makes sense. So now I got to take the Patriots, but I don't think that's the right move. I have a positive Trevor Lawrence stat. Well, not positive, but more in Trevor Lawrence's defense. I think I have the same stat. Yeah, the amount of drops. Yep. Yeah. So Trevor Lawrence, since coming into league in 2021, the Jaguars have dropped 113 passes per ESPN research,

most in the league and 21 more than the second place team, Kansas City. That's insane. It's also crazy that Kansas City has the second one. How many of those are Kaderius Tony? Yeah, we have to account for that. Also, I read something pretty interesting about Kansas City and their drop rate the other day People think that their lights were fucked up for like the last seven years Like the night games in the stadium though really the light frequency. However, like whatever Like I don't even know what you call it But it was a type of light that didn't provide it was almost like a mini strobe effect And it fucked up every single receiver that played there

Okay, and it was only in the night games and it was for every team that was like statistically an outlier to every other night stadium. So that might explain part of it. Also, Kaderia Stoney also very stone. But yeah, that is it's something not bad for Trevor Lawrence. Like I've seen a lot of drops, especially this year. Yeah, his receivers have dropped some easy catches and easy touchdowns. Can I just say one thing about it, because there were some Jaguars fans being like the Jaguars dropped four touchdowns against the Bears It would have been a different game three of them were on the same drive. You can't score three touchdowns on one drive

Yeah, that's a that's a seven-point swing. Yeah, but they did drop a lot of balls. I said it on Sunday after the game I said exactly that the Jaguars dropped a lot of balls and Trevor Lawrence is not getting any favors What about Cisco talking about quitting? Uh, yeah. His teammates seem to kind of have his back. So Andre Cisco after the game said, it feel like, should I say this? A lot of quit. There was a lot of quit out there. We weren't playing as one. You don't like to use the Q word. There are two words you don't like to use in football,

the Q word and the S word for soft. Um, so when he said that we quit at first I was like, sounds kind of weird to say that about your team. But then I thought about it. And I was like, well, he's not wrong. No, definitely not wrong. He's not wrong about it. And I feel like his teammates were kind of in that same mindset where they're like, yeah, we fucking quit last week. Yeah. And, uh, I think this game comes down to,

does anyone in that locker room like or Feel good about Doug Peterson because if they do They have to win this game to save his job But if they don't and want to quit like you kind of can get out of it because he's gonna get fired if he loses This game right possible mutiny. Yeah. Oh We know about that Hank. Mm-hmm. Are you afraid of a mutiny? No Hank. So I think Drake mays gonna look good The Jaguars defense is bad. I hope so. I hope he's well rested. He gets you know No funky stuff with the layover or anything. Yeah, when did they travel? I don't know. Hmm

Gotta look into that because the Jaguars are acclimated. So what's your what's your pick Hank? My pick in this game. Yeah. I have to make one? No. Over. Okay. All right. I like that. Wembley. Wembley Stadium. They have a half retractable roof. So is it gonna rain this weekend? I think so. So half of the field. It's gonna rain on half the field. Half the field will be rain. I want to I want to look up what the first half or first quarter line is even because the Patriots I think they might be the worst team in the league in the first quarter What about the second and third and fourth? Well, that's that's different stories

Yeah quarter, but this would be the ultimate first quarter Yes, it does include like you if you see a team that sleep well So you know there where they're still gonna acclimate and the Jaguars did win this spot last year against the Bills remember their second London game and yeah, bills were pretty good last Year and they beat the bills. So yeah, I guess fuck I think Hank was right. I think this is a trap for the Patriots What's a trap for one in five team? It's a trap for us Okay, so um Yeah, where are you finding it out? I'm looking when do they go? What do you got memes or max?

60% rain 60% rain, but that's 30% rain with a half retractable roof correct I think they did that right Half retractable roof. I don't really understand it. Oh, that's it means just through something. That's like a sofa, right? Yeah, well know the lightning can come in the lightning comes in. Yeah. All right, Hank find find that force. We'll go to the next game. Okay. Seahawks have Falcons. Seahawks have Falcons. I kind of like the Seahawks in this game. I think that the Seahawks, their defense isn't that far away. They've been injured. And they yeah, they're dealing with a

shitload of injuries. And they give up a lot of big plays. I feel like that's a symptom of having a brand new defensive system that they're running with McDonald. But I feel like they're not far away because when they're not letting up the big plays, they're actually not that bad against the run. This also feels like a hungry dog runs faster game where you have the Seahawks on a three game losing streak.

And the one thing that I could point positive to Seahawks, well actually two things. One is from my friends at Sports Info Solutions. The Seahawks love to run plays against middle of the field open cover two or four. The Falcons run a lot of that. So there should be, Gino should be good today or Sunday. Also the Falcons have no pass rush whatsoever. They are averaging less than a sack a game.

They didn't sack Andy Dalton once last week against the Panthers. Does feel like every Seahawks game we've watched the last few weeks, Geno Smith has been running for his life and been under pressure constantly. He might have some more time this week. I like the Seahawks. Yeah, he hasn't really been taking sacks, but he's been having to move around a lot and then just dumping the ball off or throwing out of bounds and just firing something off that's not on target. Remember Matthew Judon? Yeah. He's on the Falcons. He is. Remember the guard rails? I do remember the guard rails. The guard rails were

huge for this. Yeah. So I feel like the Seahawks are close. They're not good. Their defense, don't get me wrong, their defense, especially their rush defense is not good. I think it's the worst in the history of the Seattle Seahawks right now. But what I'm saying is they're not far from being good. Yeah, they just got to fix a couple things. And the Falcons do run the ball. Well, I like the Seahawks in this spot. I like the Falcons overall, like for the rest of the year. But I've also retracted my take. I've done some soul searching about the Bucks. I apologize for saying the Bucks aren't very good. It is 100% Che bias. Yeah, that I mean, I can read you like a book. I know deep seated. I just

I sat with Che for an entire game watching him and it just it sits with you and it really eats away. Let me say I get it. Yeah, I get it. It's not everyone gets it's not fun. People who watch our streams get it. There's an unnamed executive at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who when informed that I would be much more of a Bucs fan if it wasn't for Stephen Che. Yeah, informed me that they're willing to part ways with Stephen Che as a Bucs fan. That means that they can open up the big tent to getting people in the band because I love Mike Evans. I love Baker Mayfield. I love I love Chris Godwin. I love Vita Bay. I love Bucky. I love Bucky. Levanta David. I love all these

guys. Yeah, they're they're a fun team. Che che's gatekeeping. Che che screws it for all of us. Okay. Titans at bills. Amari Cooper now on the bills. He said that it's always funny because you forget like Cleveland and Buffalo are very close together. So on he drove to Buffalo from Cleveland when traded, and he said he had a lot to think about. Said Josh Allen plays a lot of grit and hustle, called him one of the league's best top quarterbacks. To play with him is really cool.

And he said that it felt like the first day of school again, driving from Cleveland to Buffalo. That's awesome. I'm excited. First day of, wait first day school not no first day school is fun Yeah, because you get your new fit. Yeah, you got a little tan you get to see all the people Second day sucks over the summer. Yeah, you go in there and you act all big and bad second day Syllabus week not that fun, you know in like, you know before you get to college Yeah, and uh, I love the internet for I hate the internet for a lot of reasons I love the internet for the random. Hey someone just thought of this game Josh Allen has thrown a pass to a completion to Mario Cooper

Did you see that clip going around it was in a week week 11 game between the Bills and the Browns and he threw one to the sideline and Mario Cooper one-handed it and the best part about the clip is the game was happening At Ford Field. Oh, I love that because of this. Yeah, I remember that one So it's the most random clip ever to be like, look, Josh Allen and Mari Cooper have a connection. I feel like this is where people are gonna get sick of the Bills glazing, but I feel like this is a great move for the Buffalo Bills.

Yeah, it is also, I feel like this might be a smash spot for the Bills, the Titans. I can't keep believing in the Titans. I keep doing it and I just, I gotta quit them. I'm quitting them, I'm going keep believing in the Titans. I keep doing it and I just I gotta quit them I'm quitting them going cold turkey on the Titans. I'm gonna say I'm gonna I'm gonna call it right now This is the weekend where Josh throws an interception. Oh, but I think the bills are gonna win hundred start too Yeah, I think it's I think it would be good for Josh to get that first one out of the way I just I I'm done with the Titans done. It's probably smart. Can't do it. Can't do it anymore. Done with the Titans. Uh,

Bengals at Browns. This is me fun game. Not really. No. Yeah. Okay. Here's why it's gonna be fun. Let me pitch you on Bengals and Browns. Mario Cooper got traded. The vibes in Cleveland could not be worse except for the fact that Nick Chubb is back and I've watched multiple videos now. I think three different videos of Nick Chubb is back. And I've watched multiple videos now, I think three different videos of Nick Chubb, whether it be going out to the practice field for the first time, he did a press conference the other day. This team loves Nick Chubb as much as they hate

Deshaun Watson. Yeah, Nick Chubb is the best. They are, it was basically he was standing at the podium getting ready to talk to the reporters, and all the guys, they must have been walking in a hallway and they all were just screaming like Chubbs back 2-4 2-4 and all this stuff. I think that you will maybe get a one game bounce from Nick Chubb being in that huddle and I might only run the ball 10 times but just they needed something to change the vibes Nick Chubb changes it for a game I kind of like the Browns against spread it Nick Chubb is very easy guy to root for yeah

And I've been watching some of his mic'd ups where he's on that He's got he's wearing the wire and he steps out on the field and then the video goes for like two minutes and Nick Chubb Still hasn't said anything. Yeah, he's the best guy the NFL to Mike up Yeah, I hope they have him wearing the wire this time because it's just him breathing Grunting and then that's it. That's all he does out there. He's gonna be fun It's gonna be fun to have him back the Browns have not scored 20 points or had 200 yards passing in a game Maybe it changes this week. Also, here's what's wild about that If you said 20 points the last two home games that the Browns have had against the Bengals They've won by 19 or more points. Oh, so they do own the they own the Bengals. They own the Bengals, they've won by 19 or more points. Oh, so they own the Bengals. They own the

Bengals. Yeah. Kevin Savansky also, Nick Chubb did a really good piece in the players' tribune. He was talking about his injury, his leg atrophying to a point where he said his leg was the size of his arm, which his arm is really big too. Big, big leg. But Kevin Savansky told reporters that Nick Chubb is a better journalist than all of you, big, big leg. But Kevin, Sir, Vansky told reporters that Nick Chubb is a better journalist and all of you better football player to better journalists didn't have to add the football player. Well, technically not a journal. He's a blogger. Yeah, Kevin. But I like the football player being added. Just looking at a bunch of like journalists being like, Nick Chubb is a better football player than you guys. Yeah, probably accurate.

Yeah. But I still believe in the Bengals. They'll probably win this game. I just think it's gonna be tighter than we expect. And yeah, the Bengals, this is where the Bengals have, they're in must win territory, especially against the team that they are on paper, on the field, everything better than. Yeah. So the Browns, I want to bet on the Browns this weekend. I know that's very stupid, but you gave me a reason with Nick Chubb coming back. It's been the worst vibes ever in the NFL this season. Deshaun Watson continues to set records for just all the stats. You can find any bad quarterback stat and Deshaun Watson will be number one across the board in all of them. I feel like this is, it's all lining up. The Browns, Bengals, we know how that's gone recently. Nick Chubb coming back. It's at home. I think I like the Browns Yeah, will I be man enough to bet on the Browns this weekend? I don't know. I think I'm going to be and it's gonna be scary It's all hell

Texans at Packers I Got something I got to say to the Packers and this is this actually comes from a place of respect So hear me out The Packers going with the all white uniforms and all white helmets are a disgusting affront to football. Color Rush? It's a disgusting affront to football. The Green Bay Packers, hear me out.

The Green Bay Packers, and I hate them, I hate them. Can you use the proper term for it? Those the winter warning. The winter warning. I hate the Packers, but they, their football jerseys and color scheme are football. Like that's what you, like that's classic football. They are a franchise a hundred years old. They have all this history. Like they should never do any type of gimmicky alternate

bullshit. They have a uniform. It's like changing Alabama's uniform or Penn State's uniform. Like don't do it. The Packers have a uniform that works. Don't change the helmet. It's if you're a Packers fan, you should be disgusted by this. I think that this is disgusted. It's disgust and the whole franchise. It's disgusting. I think that this is an appropriate uniform to wear in a late December game at Lambeau field when it's snowing. Yeah, that would rock. You know what the temperature a late December game at Lambeau field when it's snowing. Yeah, that would rock.

Do you know what the temperature is going to be at Lambeau field? 74. Yeah. So you can't have the winter warning jerseys on when it's 74 degrees outside. This matchups, this, this uniform matchup stinks. What are you gonna say, Max? You like it? Yeah.

Packers jerseys are sick. No, they aren't the green. No. All right. This is a rock in a snow store. The jerseys are fine. You can't do the white helmet. It's probably not gonna happen in mid-october I think you're gonna we're gonna turn this game off. No, we're gonna look at no this matchup Like those no, this is a sick, you know, I would never say that first of all I actually would I mean their unit their regular helmet is a great helmet

I should never change it max you can't turn on it It's impossible to turn on Texans game and say this is a great helmet. They should never change it. Max, you can't turn on, it's impossible to turn on a Texans game and say this is a great all-time uniform matchup. That's a problem. They don't have the history. Nothing against the Texas uniforms. I think the Texas ones are going to look cool too. I don't want to be a snob here, but throwback uniforms.

We made a song about color. Color Rush is for Thursday nights. Throwback uniforms are for the Jaguars. They're for the Titans. They're for the Texans great Not even throwback alternate weird funky uniforms. They're not for the Green Bay Packers I I'm actually doing Packers fans of service because I'm speaking up for them. You should be disgusted by this I'm gonna take the Packers in this game. I don't I don't like the fact that it's gonna be so nice outside wearing these uniforms

Yeah, I really don't I think it gonna be, it's gonna be very strange looking. Uh, I'm, I'm excited to watch this game though. This is going to be maybe the, the funnest game of the weekend. It's a measuring stick game for both teams, both teams, see how they measure up against both teams. The Texans only losses in the NFC North, the Packers now that Jordan love is healthy. He also won the MVP last year or last week, which hurt me very much so. But yeah, I think this is we're going to walk away if one team can beat the other like soundly. Oh shit. Watch out. I think both teams are very good. I think they're both capable of beating each other soundly. Soundly. Yeah, soundly.

I think the Texas have some defensive injuries they're working through. Well, they got a... Jimmy Ward? This is kind of interesting. Mario Edwards Jr. he just got suspended four games for PEDs and so he's out but they're getting back to Nico Autry who's coming back after serving six games of his own for PEDs. Is Brian Christian still in that building? I don't know but it's a great great idea if you're the Texans. They might be on to something. The Texans might have this like a calendar, a giant calendar set up where they have their guys go on like a regiment of steroids in cycles. So it's like right when one guy gets popped, the other guy gets cleaned comes back. Yep.

Then he starts using, he gets popped, the other guy comes back. Yes. Pretty smart. That is smart. You keep him fresh. Keep him fresh. Yeah, Jimmy Ward is out. Yeah, I like to pack it.

This game is gonna be tough. I'm gonna I'm gonna text our friend Aaron Nagler and ask him what he thinks about these Packard's uniforms. I'm going over I'm going over this is a those are over uniforms. You know that by looking at it, right? Yeah. Like it might not be appealing on the eye to see those white uniforms in 70 degree weather. What Max? It's so appealing on the eye. It's such a great uniform in the snow It would rock I think regardless. It's it'd be like camouflage I think once you turn the game on your to be like those uniforms are said why Russia's you're not a historian of the game Like we are I think these are over uniforms though

Hey, thank you memes over uniform sounds like good uniform. No, but an over over uniforms I'm dead. That's a big difference between over uniforms and a great uniform matchup. Great uniform matchup could be the the Steelers and the Raiders. And that's not hitting the over. That's a pretty basic matchup. What Steelers Raiders? I mean, that's a classic uniform matchup. It's classic. Yeah All right. I think Aaron Nagler actually agrees They're boring. He said Yeah, they are that's that's the opposite of what you're saying Well, they're they're boring and they're also you should never change a classic uniform

That's really what it comes out to but he didn't say that I he sent me a video that he did so I'll have to Okay. All right, fine play the video. I'm gonna send it to you Let's see. Let's hear this is from the actual Packers. We'll get this settled once and for all These are the guys that actually are they live and breathe Packer football because this is a I'll tell you right now if You're if you're listening for X's and O's find a new show. We're getting deep in uniforms. That's what we do It's that's what we it's also hard to tell when the Texans are wearing alternate uniforms. Yeah, those black. You could never tell those black or dark blue. Who cares? Who knows? I think I would like this uniform match up with those were actually black. That's what I'm saying. Because I like any of the white the yin and the yang. I don't think I like any of their uniforms. I'm actually coming around to the new ones. The the H-Town blues? Yeah I'm coming around to those. H-Town blues? I think the Titans have ever worn black. Uh they're blue. If you look at that uniform right there it might be black I don't know. All right here we go this is from Aaron Nagler

Cheesehead TV and his co-host let's let's see what they say. This is where the Green Bay Packers will be wearing their winter warning uniforms. I don't think there's a little bit of controversy around this like Let's see what they say. agree with because it would have popped it would look so cool. Agreed. But just on that side because this whole thing is a money grab it's all about creating more merch right? Yeah you need more skews. More skews equals more dollars. More skews! We do that here too. We did the Romeo.

Exactly! We did the Whirlpool out there Romeo. I get the gig. I understand it man. Like totally get it. But then make the stuff cool. It is the plainest, boringest, most nondescript nonsense. That's what a lot of people complain about the women's stuff too. It's the plainest, boringest, most nondescript nonsense.

That's what a lot of people complain about the women's stuff too. They have a lot of women's stuff, but it's not cool. That's not, it's a different argument. Yeah, but we got to the same point. No, it's not. We got to the same point. I think he makes a good point though that if this was at night and you have those uniforms, it looks a lot better.

I, I, it would probably look better at night, but I still think it'll look good during the day. Not in the bright hot hot Sun we ended up at the same spot I okay we did we both hate the uniforms for different reasons I think it's I think the Packers should just cease to exist after doing something like this to the gods of football Vince Lombardi would be rolling in his grave right now all five two of them very sure he's really five to get people don't talk about he was very short that's crazy five to yeah, people don't talk about it. He was very short. That's crazy I don't know if he's actually about to but he's very short. I'm gonna look that up very short man

Okay, how's some good analysis? It is weird to wear winter uniforms when it's 72 degrees outside 5-8 Yeah, basically a regular-sized human being especially in that era there was no he's five to half of a man Okay, it's I tell you Dolphins is his his base Vince Lombardi's basement bar was like that's one of those things that I wish Still existed more in the world the basement bar. People don't have basement bars. He just had a bar in his basement Yeah, yeah, I feel like a lot of dudes have that yeah, but it's like all I maybe it's the fact that it's now like a Man cave with a million TVs. I'm talking like it was just like a you just went there to lean up on the bar drink

Yes The modern nothing else the modern man cave has become like this it come see the room in my house that my wife Let's me have right and I put stuff on the wall that I see advertised and commercials that explicitly use the term man cave And it's also it feels like the modern man cave is is for Instagram and not for comfort ability. Mm-hmm You know what I mean? It's like look at this I got turf field on the on in the basement and all these jerseys if it's like dude What about just a really fucking old nice couch that you can sit on and watch TV? Yeah, my buddy bought a shed and then he just built a bar in his shed. He just goes out and gets hammered in the shed and turns a red light on for the neighbors to come over. When the red lights on that means come drink beer in

my shed. That's that's man shit. Is your buddy named Mike Florio? It's not Mike Florio. He does do that with his barn. He's got a barn. Yeah, he's got a barn Okay dolphins occults. I want to take the dolphins as long as Anthony Richardson is started. Okay Let me tell you a reason why not to okay. He cut his hair He cut all his hair off. Does that change the fact that he's bought he's literally last in Completion percentage from inside a clean pocket. It might Nick Sirianni shaved his head and then he won. Barely. Barely. That's true. And he also freaked out. He might freak out. Anthony Richardson might freak out this week. It does feel like a step back to not have Flacco starting. Maybe that's just my excitement.

Yeah. I don't know. I also think Tyler Huntley off the buy. The Dolphins ran the ball more last week. They were going to maybe lean into that being like, Hey, we can't run the two offenses to coming back. Yes, I believe he's planning on he's not allowed to come back till October 23. Do the dolphins have any prime time games? I might be like they might have to do the warning. When you scrolling Instagram. It's like do you want to see this graphic nature? Information that may be harmful to your mental psyche right now. I think they can flex to we're in we're in flex territory. Yeah I got two is not allowed to come back until the 23rd. That's the practice. That's not a game. That's the practice Yeah game. Ah What memes? Looks like they have two primetime games. Oh, no one coming up

Against the Rams on November 11th. Oh, no, so that could be two and that's a primetime game And they also play primetime. It looks like against the Packers. Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay Yeah, I don't know. I just am NOT a believer in Anthony Richardson. I get it people do believe in him But if Joe Flacco was starting this game, I'd hammer the Colts. Yeah, I'm going to I'm gonna bet the Colts regardless if he's starting I think that's how little I believe in Whoever the backup happens to be that's trying to fill to his role in this offense I feel like they they just don't know like to a Like him or who knows if to would be a good quarterback for any other team, but he works for the Dolphins.

He's like perfect for them and nobody else can come in and do any of the stuff that he's done. They just look completely lost. But I think they're gonna try to maybe do not the same stuff. Like they're gonna try to run the ball more, be like, hey, Tyler Huntley, you're not Tua. You would think so, right?

You would think so. That's what I was thinking last week with Tyler Huntley. Well, they they did they ran it 41 times. Yeah, they they also looked like shit. Yeah, they did they did What are we gonna do about these tickets? We got Colts tickets this weekend to give away dolphins Let's see Why don't we give it to a Colts fan named Frank Okay Why don't we give it to a Colts fan named Frank? Okay. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I like that.

So Frank, any Frank Colts fan named Frank? Francis? No, Frank. Got to be a Frank. I mean, they could legally be Francis, but they go by Frank. They got to be going by Frank. Yeah. And you have to wear glasses.

Yep. And chew on them. Yep. Yeah. Okay. Send us if your name's Frank and you're a Colts fan since the picture of you chewing on your glasses and then their tickets are yours tag Pardon my which we do part of my take or part of my meme Part of my take part of my part of my meme part of my meme and part of my tag part of my name But it has to be tagged to pardon my meme and also memes got Xbox codes for

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I understand that if your're Lions fan, probably pretty upset and you're like, what does this mean for a season? I still think that the Lions, they can make it happen because their offense is good enough. They'll figure it out. I'm a believer in the Lions long term. I don't know about this game. Because I really do think that that that Cowboys game, they were like, they had that circled, you could tell they had it circled. It was an emotional game. Jared Goff gave got a game ball from Dan Campbell, then he gave it back to Dan Campbell. And it's because I don't think

Jared got the game ball last week, right? Yeah, something like that. Dan Campbell forgot. Yeah, he felt bad. He's like, I got to get Jared a game ball. And then Jared gave it back to him, which I love. Yeah. But it was like, you could see the locker room. That was an emotional win. Losing the Eden Hutchins is an emotional letdown. Vikings off a bye. Uh, I don't know. I just also, uh, I have another staff for you from sports info solutions. Vikings are third best in the NFL defending runs out of the 12 personnel allowing a 3.1 yards, a carry. That's what the Ryan lions like to do the most in the NFL. Okay. So I it's, it's, it's just, I just like

the spot for the Vikings. Also, here's a staff for you. Ready for this? Justin Jefferson has 1037 receiving yards in eight career games against the Lions. That's the most by anyone in NFL history against one team in eight games. That's pretty crazy. That's a lot of yards. Yeah, that's a lot of yards. The receivers are you can't go you can't cover everybody on the Vikings. You just can't. And so if you have good Sam Darnold, then you're going to give up some points. What do you think about the Lions, maybe not Max Crosby? What about Hassan Reddick? Yeah. I think they called about it. They did. Yeah. Yeah. Did we talk about this, but then they have to give them a second round pick? Oh, because of the NFC? Yeah. Good point.

That's why they're probably not going to trade him. I think if there's any team in the NFL that's able to get over an emotional loss to the leader of your defense is probably Detroit Lions. I feel like Dan Campbell is the right guy. I don't know when I because we do so many shows. Oh, I think it was on the rundown. I threw out this idea. And Jerry Jones will never do it. But trade Michael Parsons. Yeah, he's not gonna do that. But you have to pay him. And your your problem right now is

your it seems like you have lack of depth going forward. What's going to happen? You locked up Dak, you locked up CD. You're going to have to pay Michael Parsons. You could probably get a lot for him. I don't even know if the Lions would do it, but if I were Jerry Jones, reload on draft picks and trade Michael Parsons.

That would be such an emasculating birthday to have the Lions come in, kick your ass to the point where you're like, we don't deserve to have this beautiful man on our defense. We need to trade him to the team that just kicked, he'd be happier with them. Just throwing it out there, not saying there's no sourcing, nothing. I was just thinking about it. Again, this is under the assumption that Jerry Jones would operate, he doesn't have a lot of years left, so he's probably not going to operate in a long-term approach because that would be a smart long-term move

to trade Michael Parsons and get a hall for him right now before you have to pay him and Then reload that way but knowing just a little bit about human psyche the fact that you just gave Dak a big contract the fact You've just paid CD lamb It's gonna be a tough hill to climb to admit that you're not all in right now. Yeah. That you're all in my ass. They're all in my ass. All in my ass.

All in my ass. I also, I want to watch if Aaron Jones plays. That's gonna be important. So they just signed, or did they trade for Cam Akers? Traded for Cam Akers. Yeah. Whose last game was in Minnesota. Yeah.

He played for the day, I think he was inactive last week and then the Texans played in Minnesota. So that's kind of a fun wrinkle So Aaron Jones was at practice. I don't know if you practice but he was at practice. Okay, so Take for that what you will but I feel like picking up cam acres makes it seem like he's gonna be out for a little Bit. Yeah, and Aaron Jones is very good. Yes, you don't probably don't want Sam. Donald to wrong you 45 times a game Yeah, Aaron Jones returned to practice Use that practice. Did he practice or was he just there limited? Vikings running back Aaron Jones returned to practice according to the Pioneer Press. Did he have an MRI? Did fill me up see maybe DM someone seeing him back on the field after not participating on Wednesday is a good sign

Okay, okay That is a good sign. That's a great sign, but let the record show I am unwavering in my support from the Detroit Lions I'm as well. I think they'll be okay. I mean I it's so I'm doing that right now because The Bears don't have any NFC North games until week 10 then it's gonna have to I'm gonna have to you have to wave I'm gonna flip the switch. Yeah, I have to flip the switch and start poking holes at everyone to try to make myself feel better That's kind of what sports are you to bring everyone else down to try to elevate yourself I got a question for big cat. Is this the coordinator matchup of the week? Mm-hmm Flores verse Ben Johnson. Yeah, I feel like it is it is I feel like this is coordinator matchup of the week

Let's see. Let's see Yeah, it might be the coordinator matchup of the week. Yeah's see. Let's see. Uh, yeah, it might be the coordinator matchup of the week. Yeah. I think without a doubt this might be the best coordinator matchup in the NFL all season. Yeah. It's going to be a great coordinator matchup. This is great. This is good stuff. It's our coordinator game of the week. The, uh, the problem I have with what Ben Johnson did last week at the line or at the Cowboys is just, I, I don't know what else he's got in his bag. Well Well that was my whole point about the emotion. Like it was, that was an empty the clip game.

And what happens after you empty the clip? You go to shoot, nothing's there. Click, click. Yeah. The fact that you ran the play with Penne Sewell catching the lateral tells me that you're probably not, that has to be your most creative play that you have, right? Oh I'm sure he's got more.

So that's, maybe he does. But I'm a little bit- It'm a little bit like panacea laterally to frank ragnaut i'm a little bit worried that he emptied the clip yeah how many shots were there do you feel lucky a lot of shots uh okay eagles of giants seikwon revenge game seikwon had a story uh on espn i believe where he's like i don't think they'll boo i had to read it like three times. Yeah, like I, that is a big question. I think I think they're, I think they're gonna boo. Well, if you're a Giants fan, you probably you lived and breathed this entire saga with Saquon and you know that he wanted to be a giant and then you know that the front office

decided to franchise Saquon give a contract to Danny Jones and then eventually like yeah, the guy just went to a team that paid him more money. Yeah, a lot more money. I just thought I thought that was I feel like that's wishful thinking being like I don't think they're gonna boo. I think there will be some fans that boo. I think there will be a smattering of boo. I think it's going to be 30% booze and then 70% people standing silently next to the people that are booing saying, Hey man, he was a great player for

us. But you got to remember there's, so if the games in New York, there's still probably going to be like 30% fill Philly fans there. Make the drive up. They also could boo. That's, but they wouldn't be booing. They might be, Yeah right. So it's, you might have to up your boo. Good sports sound. 50-50 boo? No Sequa wouldn't get booed. But he might. No there's no way to say. But Max it's also like think about it. If you're an Eagles fan and you're going to this game at MetLife and you hear boo's your natural reaction is going to just start joining in on the boots. Nah, say one wouldn't get booed. Say quans, everyone like say quan and Philly. There's, there's levels to it. There's like pre boo. There's no boo. No great sushi pre boo. And then current boo. Now boo. So wait, wait, break that down. There's pre boo. Which there's

no boo. That's sometimes more potent than booing. No boo is no boo. There's no boo. So wait, wait, break that down. There's pre-boo. Which there's no boo. That's sometimes more potent than booing. No boo is no boo. There's no boo. Yeah. Like this guy is not going to get booties and no, he's in no danger of getting boo. Then there's pre no booze for instance. All right. So he's like, we're feeling about boring. Yeah. Then there's like, there's like, this guy's on the verge of possibly getting it's like a, it's like a dog with a bark in their throat. You can see them about to bark you like that's a that's a fat Philly guy who's got a boo in his throat great album Yeah So when you the first guy that booze is there ever a guy that booze too soon?

No, it's like a collective thing like all it takes is one guy to start and then everybody else has to join in would you not agree max that if if you if Someone just started booing around you your instinct would be let me join in on this, but was his first take No you I we got it we got to test this we're gonna forget Let's just I'm gonna set a secret reminder We're gonna try to test this out later on at some point Just start booing around max and watch him just instinctively be like where we boo and let's boo now now I don't think that I don't think that the majority of Giants fans are gonna boo seq one

But I do think that if he fumbles Everyone's gonna cheer extra loud for that fumble which counts as a boo kind of a boo. It's a sarcastic cheer No, we say Kwan no boo. Kind of a boo. It's a sarcastic cheer. No, we say quan no boo. Just no boo. What's the drink line? Drake line? No boo. Something Malibu. No boo. How do you feel about this game? A bad, we lose in New York every time now. And I, New York just keeps dunking on me that I just keep thinking I'm going to get dunked on by New York. And this would be, this would really be really be a doozy in the law if you rub it in yeah and no Boston Scott anymore no Boston Scott I'm gonna sign

him he's playing in Rocket League right now the Giants professional he's like a professional gamer yeah like the Giants stink but they're not they're they're a little bit frisky I think defense is good Yeah there's parts of them that are frisky. Like neighbors coming back. But they still have like the label of stink. So like losing to them still will feel like embarrassing like losing to a horrible football team. Even though it should. But it should. But you agree with. I know what you're saying yeah. There's a stink around the Giants. Correct. That losing to the Giants feels like feels like a I'm sure same like with the commanders

If you were to lose to us that stink is we're not talking about commanders right now Okay, and and on top of that. There's like a stink and then also if you lose the Saquon revenge No boo game, right? that would hurt as well and the way the Giants can win this game would hurt extra, extra hard because all they do is like little passes and they were just little, little pass. It would be so boring. And they would just, yeah, little pass. It would be so boring. And because it would also, I also think the only way we lose is if, I don't know, there's plenty of

ways we could lose. But like I'm thinking of like a, like a bad turnover or something dumb like that, that like would really get the Nick Sirianni strips But clothes at halftime and then comes out naked and you get a penalty I'll say this right now if the if the Eagles lose to the Giants on Sunday Nick Sirianni will not be coaching the following week Oh, I I feel like coaching now. He's coaching for his job. Well, he just it's a job to go Yeah job to coach. Will he just be taking a week off or he's gonna be fired? I'll be done. He just goes in my a Like he's just gonna leave. No, I think he will be I think he will be fired. It is a prediction This is a prediction do they let him back on the bus to go back to Philly respect Philly's a city of respect

Yeah, I would of course let him go get back on the bus But would there be a group of fans waiting to boo him at the facility? Yeah, and then I'll probably start yelling at him like the yelling at the fans last year last week really like it felt like if they lost He wouldn't have yelled at the fans if they lost that game, but it like really bumped up his hot I saw a report. I don't know if it was from the actual fan It was a guy that claiming to be the fan. You saw that thread? So yeah, so the guy I saw it was like a post on Instagram or something, but, um, he said that he was telling Nick Sirianni like what run the ball more,

like run the ball to Saquon. And then Nick Sirianni did run the ball more. Then after the game, he was like, see, I told you I was going to run the ball more. So it might not have been like booing. Then Nick Sirianni responding to the boo. It might've been good coaching. You should hire that guy to be your coach. Regardless, you shouldn't be like yelling at the fan about any like, no, because a fan told you to run the ball. You're going, you like kept that in your head and you had to go back to the stand.

That's what fans do. That's fair. That like, that's what head coaches do. But that's fan one Oh one. It's like he's, he's definitely heard probably a million fans before saying run the damn ball. But Sirianni shouldn't do that. I have a question for you Max. If you lose this game and then you fire Sirianni, what is it going to look like?

Is it going to look like Tommy and Goodfellas when they shoot him in the back of the head? Or is it going to look like Goodfellas when they do the wire? He sits in the front seat. Like Big Dom, how's Big Dom going to whack him? Big Dom would only treat any man with the most respect. So he'd face to face. Yep. Two in the face. Let him take his shoes off first. Yeah. Yeah. Big Dom is a man of respect for sure. Would he, would Nick Sirianni wind up frozen in a meat truck?

I don't know. Okay. Would Nick Sirianni be, yeah. Would he be like beat up in a bar and then and then buried upstate? What would you think of if what would you think about the Eagles season going forward it if we lost? Siriani and somehow got very good got variable in the door. I think I'm crazy that would rock I think that'd be awesome for you. Yeah, Mike for able to be a kind of I feel like Mike Vrabel is like it is It's ridiculous that Mike Vrabel is not a head coach in the NFL. I would the Browns let him out of his contract Does he have isn't he just like an advisor? No, I think he's no he's an advisor a consultant Yeah, but he was that's not I feel like they're I don't think he has like an ironclad. Yes

Okay, I'm sure I'm sure they would let him out if he even had a car. He probably doesn't even have like a non-compete clause in there Especially it's not like they're playing for anything right now. Well, they got Nick chubb back Yeah, you forgot about that part there, but they're punting Andrew Thomas being out for the Giants should make you feel a little bit more Excited about this game. Yeah, I guess but it's I Guess our D line looks better last week Yeah, and neighbors come they might not little pass you to death. They might find neighbors a few times too They'll still little pass them to death. They just might do some medium passes. I think neighbors is back

Well, he's back, but he has new injury From what he got a concussion obviously that he's back from that but then I think he has a groin So do I yeah, we all do Pulled groin yeah, so it sounds like a Friday night. Mm-hmm He's a full go he's a full groin is a hundred percent. Yeah, his groins his groin is growing in oh no So did I do like the Malik neighbors? the So did I do like the Malik neighbors? The it's been going around like he doesn't wear any team issue things when he's been out on the sideline and people are very upset About it. It's kind of funny. What do they want him to wear? It does look a little weird. He's just like sure

He's rocking echo unlimited on the sideline. He looks like he's going to a concert and he's just on the side Well wasn't where that chrome heart pull up a picture of him on the sideline. He did go to there. It is look at that That's not that is a at that. That's not That is a red hat is sick though. Yeah, no, I like that where I like being on the side Okay, but counterpoint out counterpoint the Giants needs somebody like this because they do max's whole swag stink around the Giants Has to do with them. Just being a boring team offensively. Yeah, the Malik neighbors is not boring. Yeah, this is the guy that you need This is a culture change. He counteracts Daniel Jones being a Deloitte accountant.

I would also like to say for the record, in addition to Mike Vrabel, definitely should be a head coach right now in the NFL somewhere. The Giants, if their season doesn't go well, they kind of have to make a decision about what to do for their entire future. Yeah. Like with the whole Dable, Daniel Jones thing, you got to keep table. I think that table is a good head coach. I don't think that they should fire him after the season. I think because you have to make

the choice, right? Do you clean house, maybe get a new quarterback and a new head coach at the same time? Or do you keep the same guy around and give him at least a couple years to work with your new quarterback? I actually like Brian Dable enough to say that he should be their head coach. I think you just do a simple estimation of if you fire Brian Dable, will he be hired tomorrow? And I think he probably would. As a head coach or as a coordinator?

A head coach or a coordinator, but it would be pretty quick. Yeah. So you don't want to fire a guy like that. Yeah. And the Marys, they don't like to fire guys except like the last what? 10 years. They fired McAdoo. Yeah. They fired a lot like that. Yeah. And the Marys, they don't like to fire guys except like the last what? 10 years. They fired McAdoo. Yeah. They fired. They fired a lot of guys, but historically they don't like to fire guys. Yeah. And Brian table, like the one season that the giants go to the playoffs, Dan Jones, that should, that should be like front and

center. I can coach. Yeah. Cause I did that. Yeah. The Vikings. not the Vikings okay next up Raiders at Rams I Hate this game. It's a bad game Jimmy G revenge game Is Jimmy G playing no oh, you know Connell that guy stinks I think the Rams off the buy Yeah, definitely the Rams off the buy. They're healthy right Cooper Cup I think it's trying to come back. And then, uh, the other big story that we talk about with Kyle Rudolph a little bit

is Tom Brady has been, he's been awarded custody of 10% of the Raiders, I believe. Uh, 5%. Oh, I thought he got 10 and then I thought. He bought, Mark Davis sold 10%. I think it's 10.5%. Okay. 5% to Brady, 5% to Brady's, uh, partner, and then 0.5% to Richard Seymour. Got it.

So Tom Brady is now, according to the NFL, not permitted to be in another team's facility. He's not permitted to witness practices. He's not permitted to attend broadcast production meetings, either in person or virtually. He's prohibited from publicly criticizing game officials and other clubs He's subject to the NFL's gambling policy and anti tampering policy, too So he can't criticize the refs. Oh, you forgot one thing. He also can't play He can't play you can't owners cannot play which is a bullshit rule That is stupid Mark Davis going out there and holding the ball and kickoff would rock Jerry Jones would definitely try to play

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Tom Brady is now, he's now a partial owner of an NFL team. I mean, he's going to eventually own the Raiders, right? I don't know how this works. Is there like some sort of succession power play he can pull behind, behind Mark Davis's back? Well, isn't the whole story that Mark Davis's mom actually owns the Raiders and that eventually

he won't have enough, like when she passes. When she dies, the inheritance tax is going to be more than he has in cash. Yeah. So his wealth comes from owning the team and then I guess you take out lines of credit against the asset that you own. Sure. Yeah, whatever the case may be. So yeah, maybe it is he set himself up for the future.

Also you think there's any truth to the Belichick rumors uh Kirk Kirk threw those out there they got picked up everywhere it would be an all-time story I don't it would be an all-time story I just don't think there's a whole lot of truth yeah I couldn't tell if Kirk was was screwing with everyone or not I think that's what yeah yeah right which is hilarious because it literally got picked up everywhere so it was a master he was also also in sports Boston sports radio. He knows how these things goes like he knows how to say things semantically Where he can just say that's what I heard without you know reporting it as as fact Yeah, I think I feel like like you can say I heard anything I Beljec might not go back to the to the NFL. He might not go back to coaching at all

Cuz I feel he's definitely yeah because he's got the the record. I feel like trying to go for the record. I feel like he's having a lot of fun. Oh definitely not. He's got to go for the record. He's like a guy that worked in a factory his entire life and came from like a hard scrabble town in the Midwest, Rust Belt. He works finally retires always thought about retiring in that same town he grew up in and goes to Florida one week And he's like this is really nice. Yeah, I might just stay by the way The other owner is Tom Wagner co-founder of night head capital management night head That sounds like the most evil company that guy sounds like he will just great company He'll cut your fucking you know necktie and then shit down your throat though the Wagner group is that what it's called the Tom Wagner

down your throat. The Wagner group. Is that what it's called? The Tom Wagner, the co-founder of night head capital management night head. That's either, that's either the most evil name or the horniest name I've ever heard. Yeah. So that's, that's the other, uh, that's the 5% to each of them. And then a half percent to Richard Seymour. See if Tom Brady like says that's a bad call during a game. Is that criticizing the officials? He's in a bad spot. Yeah. I feel bad. I don't know why he's doing it. Yeah. Well, I know why he's buying the Raiders. I don't know why he's still doing the broadcasting. I know they're paying him $40 million a year. I guess you got to pay. Well, yeah, I don't, I don't know why he got into bro. Yeah. The $40 million a year, that whole thing. But I don't really understand why Tom wanted

to do. He's Tom Brady, isn't it it again? It goes back to the thought of like Tom Brady should be too good to be talking to me on my couch about games that are Right, that's that's beneath Tom Brady. Where you say Mac? I also looked up the Kirk stuff of if it was real He followed that up today with saying that Kamala will be the next head coach of the Miami. Are you saying that's not real? No, that could happen. Yeah Are you saying that's not real? No, that could happen. Yeah Yeah, that could definitely happen One source, but I'll say it anyway, I mean I'm doing her pregame speech just being like so I was born in a middle-class family

All right, boys. Let's go out there. Let's be clear about one thing Okay, I have I have a plan. Oh my website and see my game plan Yeah, I mean it actually did kind of happen with Adam Schefter reporting condoleezza rice. Yeah true true Okay, next game Panthers and commanders Pft you're in trouble. I agree. Oh, why do you think I was gonna say you're in trouble? I'm saying I'm in trouble because I Ran my mouth hot and loose last weekend just said I counted this as bi week and I regret doing that um I was gonna say you're in trouble for a different reason because Dave canals said that Bryce Young did a great job in the role of rookie QB Jaden Daniels on the scout team today and making the

Washington offense concepts come to life. Oh my god. That's so sad to be like, yeah, Bryce Young, good job, dude. You pretended to be Jaden Daniels. That is very, very sad. Like not only- That's brutal. Not only are you getting buried because people talk about you in comparison to the number one overall pick, or excuse me, the number two overall pick in your draft, now you're running scout team

for the number two overall pick in the next draft. Like just don't say it. No, he was one overall. No, I know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm saying he gets buried because of CJ Stroud. Yes. Now he's doing scout team for the next number two pick. Just don't say it.

Don't say that Dave Canales. Just be like, we had a good week of practice. Do you remember RG3 at one point when he got demoted to scout team, but he wasn't playing quarterback scout team. He got demoted to being the scout team safety. Yeah, that was pretty sad. Yeah, that was sad. I think you're, I think you're gonna have a really fun time playing the Panthers. I'm just worried because I shouldn't have said that about the Panthers. I feel bad for Panthers fans. I want to, I don't want to bully Panthers fans. Okay. Now speak like you've been you've been speaking honestly I've been trying. Yeah, so now speak honestly from what I've seen from the commanders

This is a game that we should win by 20 points. Oh, wow. We should like that I hope that we I hope we win if our defense isn't good. Well, we actually stink on defense We're one of the worst defenses how many touchdown passes for Jaden Daniels? I think I don't know about total touchdowns passing and running. I'm going to say three. Okay. And then he's going to have two handoff touchdowns. Okay. Those count too. Yep. They do. Okay. Yeah. This is going to be a fun game for you. I hope so. This is a game. This is take care, take care of business game. Yeah. Just take care of the bad team still counts. Yeah, it's still count. I'm also just still amazed that we have a home field advantage. It's been it's been a decade since we've had a

true home field advantage. Yeah. So it's it's very cool seeing commanders fans. Also, fuck you to the Ravens fan that beat up the two commanders fans after the game. Yeah, he got arrested. Yeah. Well, no, there's a worn out as a worn out. Yeah, they'll find him. They will. He'll track him down. Yeah, he got arrested. Yeah, well, no, there's a warrant out. There's a warrant out. Yeah, they'll find him. They will. He'll track him down. Yes, absolutely. Uh, okay. Another great game. This is a great Sunday. So, the Chiefs at 49ers. Andy Reid off by 21 and four. Patrick Mahomes straight

up as an underdog is 10 and three. The Chiefs are one and a half point underdogs. They are off a bye. Also, Kyle Shanahan forced the team to watch the Super Bowl this week and said, I think everyone understands that we've lost two Super Bowls to them. So I mean, that can give you a little post traumatic stress when you turn on the tape. I don't know. I don't know if I like that. I think I'm gonna I'm gonna take the the 49ers. But I don't like that. I don't I don't like the move of playing the game for the guys

Yeah, like that puts bad thoughts in your head really in what world does that improve morale? Zero, I guess you could just hope that it's gonna piss him off Yeah, and it was they were so close to be like, hey, look how close we were. Yeah, so in terms of Super Bowl matchups like rematches Yeah, so in terms of Super Bowl matchups like rematches, the Chiefs lost to the Eagles last year. But before that, the last time the Super Bowl loser won the following regular season matchup was 1993. Oh, wow. So it goes back a long way. That was the Chiefs Eagles last year was the that was the beginning of the end for Nick Sirianni. Going member going up the tunnel. Yeah, screaming at everyone. Yep. But he won thatni. Going, remember going up the tunnel? Yeah.

Screaming at everyone? Yep. But he won that game. No I know, but that was the beginning of the end. That was his Super Bowl. That was his Super Bowl. I think that was the end of the beginning. Ooh.

Oh, interesting, okay. So now we're in the middle. Or are we at the end? No, now we're at the end. Actually, you know what? No, that was the beginning of the end. If you point to one point where you're like, Nick Sirianni, he's kind of, he's really like, this is kind of turning. But that was, that was the beginning of the end if you point to one point where you're like Nick Sirani He's kind of he's really like this is kind of turning but that was that was like but it was but remember

I'm obnoxious. It was it ever was like what's his problem? We but Eagles fans were like whatever that's our guy at that point Yeah, but max I feel like the Super Bowl was the end of the beginning wrong that was started 10 and 1 okay That was the beginning of the end without you realizing it was the beginning yet Yeah, yeah, yes, you just didn't go out for it. You didn't know that there was a beginning the end But if you look back you're like that was the beginning of the end He beat the he beat the Chiefs and was like I'm done job done. Yeah, stop coaching. Yeah, I was so happy There's what did he say in this thing? What are you confused by what's that? I think I think the walls are hacked

Why someone tweeted me two minutes ago and said do you happen to know when the Pats are flying to London this week? Yeah, so You think someone listens we're talking that's a that's a pretty standard question. Yeah to ask me Well, you should have known the answer to that if If my team was playing in London, that's the- I would have that. I knew the Bears were flying on Monday night. Memes also already tweeted it. What?

I'm kidding. What, what, what's the answer? I can't find a definitive answer. How can you go find an answer? They practice in Gillette today. They're in Gillette, I'm assuming tomorrow. Oh, so they're flying tonight. No, they're flying tonight.

Okay. They're flying tonight if they, if they practice in Gillette today, they're flying tonight if they if they practice in Gillette today. That'd be funny if they flew over early in the week just like went on a sightseeing tour then flew back practiced and then flew back again. I just got a little lay of the land. Yeah, we have our answer. They're flying Thursday night. Yeah, they're flying tonight. Okay, where were we beginning the end chief Sners? I wanted I

Want to read a tweet for you see if you can decipher it for me ready. Mm-hmm. This is from Charles Amenahoo Place for the Chiefs. He's coming back Shortly, I think he tore his ACL so he's gonna be back shortly and he is kind of pumping himself up He said I'm coming back to get what I deserve the biggest shit anything else ain't for me. Done speaking till I'm back been too humble folks forgot what what the fuck I did with less games than your favorite player. Okay, let me read that first sentence again. I'm coming back to get what I deserve the biggest shit anything else ain't for me.

It sounds like Napoleon. It's a riddle. Yeah, no, it sounds like exactly what Napoleon said after he got he got exiled. Yeah. So what is the biggest shit? I don't know. Eight for me. Eight for me. And your favorite player. What was that? It been too humble folks forgot what the fuck I did with less games than your favorite player. How does he know who my favorite player is? Yeah. What if your favorite player is is TJ watt? Yeah. Yeah. Jerry should reply

to be like, I don't think so. Favorite players Andy Dalton. Then he probably did. They probably did. Yeah. Yeah, I like the Niners here. I don't know. Do we have an update on Christian McCaffrey speaking of the walls? No. Got it. And Jordan Mason. Is he playing? Hank? Hank, you should- He practiced. Next week- I think he's playing. Next week you should just- Wait, am I like the injury guy? Yeah, no, I'm saying next week you should print out every injury report and just be the injury guy. Yeah, you're pro football. That would be actually very funny if we just had, you had them all just printed

in your hand. Hank Dockwood. Jordan Mason was in a blue no contact jersey today We go see a blue no contact Jersey are there levels to the no contact jerseys. I Think the red is for the quarterbacks only or maybe the blue is just it's the injury tent He was in the injury and they just called wearing the injury. Yeah. Yeah Okay last game on Sunday Jets at Steelers How's there no flexes this week? Jets Steelers is a, that's pretty interesting. Rusty dude. You got Rusty. You got everything going on New York.

Vikings, Packers, or a Superbowl rematch? The stations, Fox and CBS gets to keep a certain amount because they don't want to give them up. The Jets and Giants since 2019 are 4-31 playing at night in prime time. What was that memes? Your mic's still on. That was Max. No, that was you. What was that?

No, it was Max. 4-31. Yeah, it's disgusting. That's insane. I got a couple reasons why I love the Steelers this weekend. That stat that you just mentioned. The fact that they're squeezing out Fireman Ed, who's now taken to the media, and there's stories about him in the New York Post.

Memes, what do you think about that? Fireman Ed is accusing the New York Jets of not putting him on the video screen as much this season. I believe him. I saw that for two and four. Let's just win some football. No, it's a squeeze out. Not go on your Instagram. And there's too many distractions going on with the Jets. We don't need Fireman Ed just going on Instagram. It's a chicken or the Ed situation.

No. Are they losing these games because Fireman Ed's not on the Jumbotron? Didn't Fireman Ed officially quit the Jets? He did. It's bullshit that this guy. I agree. Comes around acts like he's the Jets number one guy and that the team quit. He quit on the team. The team didn't quit on him. He quit on the team.

Yeah, he quit after the butt-knot. Yeah. And then he came back. And then he came back and then he's like, I just demand respect. Like two years later and he's like, now they're not putting me on the Jumbotron enough. I love that. I love super fans getting into litigation with the team that they're a super fan of So that's that's data point number one why I like the Steelers that data point number two that I have is that the Steelers are

Wearing their throwback uniforms. Oh now bumblebee now No Now if we thought that that memes is Jets throwback uniform thing was ridiculous the Steelers throwbacks Look at them and you tell me what's different. Can you pull them up? Pull them up. Now, but here's a study the helmet. Here's a stat about these uniforms. They've worn them four times since they reintroduced them and they're four and oh, so what's different about these, these throwback? No idea. Hank, do you have any idea maybe the shoulder shoulder is the black blacker no it's block lettering so the new Steelers uniforms

are in italics like the numbers are like at a slant and these are just the block letters on them what the hell so but they are for know when they wear these but they're the most on throwback throwbacks of all time yeah I Yeah. I'm looking at this tweet from the official Steelers shop account. It says, you asked, we delivered. Yeah. Who the hell asked for this? Everyone's asked. It's the same thing.

So they are 4-0. They played 2018 against the Browns, 2019 against the Rams, Christmas Eve against the Raiders in 2022, and then against the Packers in 2023 wearing the throwback numbers. So I like so funny. So I can't go against. Yeah, because you see the the new ones. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

They're like sleeker. I like the Jets because I have a theory that doesn't really make sense when you talk it all the way out. But I'm going to say it anyway. I was on with our guys at Pittsburgh radio today and I think Mike Tomlin so the courting process for Russell Wilson they obviously they went out to get him they still had Kenny Pickett they you know there was the stories about everyone like calling him being like please come help Kenny Pickett this would be great Kenny

Pickett's like fucked out I'm out and they're like all right Rush you're the starter right like that was that was what Mike Tomlin told them. Then Justin Fields gets traded to the Steelers and Mike Tomlin, a man of his word, is like, I know I have a better chance with Justin Fields, but I promise Russell Wilson, he's a starter. Russell Wilson was, was healthy last week. Why wouldn't you start Russell Wilson against the Raiders to get his feet wet against a very bad team? Instead, he's going to throw him out against the Jets to basically have him suck. And then he's going to be like, see, you guys told me that I need to start Russell Wilson. I told Russell Wilson it wasn't his job to lose. He sucks.

Justin Fields. That's not a bad theory. But then again, the theory all goes along the lines of Mike Tomlin's deliberately throwing a football game, which doesn't really make sense. But let's just forget that part. Yeah, I like the Steelers defense at night, their own stadium. This is a double renegade. Yeah, for sure. Also shout out Devontae Adams, his hamstring got better. That's crazy.

Magically. It's wild. Yeah, he's good now. How did he even hurt his hamstring to get with his practice injury? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe getting to practice injury. He pulled up lame. According to Adam Schafter. He pulled on a Friday on a Friday, Friday before the fourth game. That's like, yeah, that's like when Hank is just like, I do you

need me for the yak on Friday? Yeah, I'm not gonna be around. Do you? No, okay. You're good to golf. It sounds like It sounds like you're just roasting your nerdiest friend for like coming out to the bar for the weekend Like yeah, this guy pulled up lame in front of the blade. So lame Well, that's a mean thing to say about somebody so lame. Uh Yeah, I don't know. I just The jets are completely out of excuses over this is it you got to win right now with what you got seasons online This is for the seat. Yes, you got your coach fired

You got you got to Vonte Adams Aaron Rodgers gotten everything he wants the next blame is Aaron Rodgers Well memes is there anything else that you can do if you lose this game? Is there another panic move that you can do to save the season? That's already son redic sign him bring him bring him in yeah wait me the deal done I want it your face there. I said the next move is to blame Aaron Rodgers, and you're not gonna do that I like Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I bet he's literally gotten everything you want. That's why I want to watch I want to see how deep this well goes like how many how many different things can be different band-aids Can you put on after heartbreaking losses before you get to Erin? Yeah

Well, I think the next panic move is just sit tyrant Smith and then put Shanu in cuz yeah The offensive line has looked great apparently tyrant Smith has let up The same amount of sacks in his entire career in this first six games, so that's not great. Mm-hmm Okay, I have all I also asked memes if the season's season is over if they lose this weekend and he said well We got a pretty easy schedule even if they go two and five Yeah Cuz if we lose this week then Aaron Rodgers will do that thing where he's just like we could run the table and then It's too early for the run the table. Yeah, but he'll do he'll do that thing later in the season

Then we'll win win a bunch of games and miss the playoffs by one game This is all getting a little pathetic. All right, so So next panic move is you sign Hassan Reddick get him in the building get the deal done, right? And then move after that is bench Tyron Smith Yes, but we're gonna win this weekend. So we're fine. And what's what's after that sign Izzy again? Izzy hasn't played all season? Yeah been inactive. Okay All right, well that was that was all the games let's do our picks And then we'll do fantasy fuckboys. Okay for our TD parlay Draft King sportsbook everyone has shot to score big with Draft Kings touchdown parlay profit boost this week all customers get up to 100%

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Justin Jefferson, Brian Robinson. Saquon. Okay. I love that. That was good. Bang, bang, bang. I was really hoping someone was going to say Saquon. He got a score back at MetLife this week. I love that.

And you know Sirianni wants him to score against the Giants. Yeah, for sure. For sure. All right. Our picks. Who's up first? And what are the records? Max is up first.

Me and Big Cat are 7-5. PFT 6-6. Hank 5-7. Max 4-7- five and seven, Max four, seven and one. Oh, Max. Half a game back. Long season. Half a, and I'm half a game back. When does it not become a long season?

I'm half a game back. I know. It could be the last week of the year and I wouldn't be bad. That's true, although that did happen to you. Yeah, fucking. Davis Mills. Davis Mills, that piece of shit.

Davis Mills, the best. I love Davis Mills. All right, Max I'm gonna go to Jets Just okay to just Jets minus two against the Steelers. I like it. I like it I'm going to go with the New England Patriots five and a half. Okay, I'm gonna take the Chargers minus two a Super Bowl winner I Am going to take the Washington Commanders minus eight. Wow.

So Hank, are you going to reverse what you did last week? Because we said it at the beginning of the week, that that was the beginning of the show that that was the best week for like gamblers worst week for Vegas all The favorites covered you did a round robin of all the underdogs. Yep 165 bets over 165 I Think I'm gonna do it again Do it on the trafficking sportsbook, all right, uh memes

Niners minus one and a half. Okay. And I'm going to take the Bills Titans over 41. Mmm. I'm going to take the Bengals Browns over 41 and a half. Okay. Someone took the Jags

Patriots over 42? Nope. I will take it. Jags Patriots over 42. I like that. I'm going to take the Commanders and the Panthers over 51 and a half. Love taking overs in Commanders games. Yes. Max.

I am going to take the Packers Texans over 47 and a half then anyone take that those uniforms yeah that's it we said that was over yeah no it's over you feel good about that I keep saying I like the uniform okay do you want me to say it again I like the uniform yeah I don't I haven't hit a total once this year I think my total I this game ends 10 to 3 will you admit that I was right about the uniforms? Yes. Okay. If it if exactly 10 to three. Yeah. Okay. Perfect. That's all I wanted. I get

an apology. That's perfect. But if it's if it's six three, I will not. Okay. Deal. Deal. Great deal. Great doing business. Great doing business with you. I get 10 to three both ways though. It could be Packers. to 3 or Texans 10 to 3. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. 10 to 3 is all I need. Okay, let's do go. So we're gonna have our parlay up for in the Drafking Sportsbook. We have Justin Jefferson, Seyquan and Brian Robinson. So we're gonna hit it this week. I feel good about this week. Before we get to our interviews, we've got great interviews with Kyle Rudolph and Francis Nganu. We're going to do some fantasy fuckboys brought to you by Body

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My stardom this week is Tom Brady. Yeah, I go the grace of all time He's now an owner Oakland Raiders second hottest owner on that fucking Franchise second. Yeah, I just owner second hottest who's the hottest? My sit-em kawaii Leonard Who's the hottest? Mocky Mock. Oh good guy. Hell yes. Mocky Mock. Davey Dave. My sitem? Kawhi Leonard. Yeah.

Kawhi Leonard, yeah. What do you do? Much like Playoff P, much like Joel Embiid. He doesn't like to play a lot and what do you know? He got hurt. He's out for an indefinite period of time. Oh no, indefinite. Season hasn't even started.

Does he know the playoffs are on a while from now? That's usually when he gets hurt. He's probably trying to wait. Probably trying to wait till the playoffs start to come back. Okay. You sound like you might be a little bit from uh, Northeast. Yeah. Sound like you're a lobsterman? Yeah kid. Gloucester. Ploy.

My sleeper? Koopa Cup. Yeah. Koopa. Koopa Troopa. Koopa Troopa. Koopa Koopa. Good kid from the old neighborhood.

He's back, he's wearing the guardian cap. I think he's gonna go off this week. Oh nice. Guardian cap a little, a little little like Nelophus not me good for Koopa Koopa Koopa Koopa hey what's up assholes my name is Italia Natalia Natalia Natalia yeah you can just call me it Nat it Nat they call me this week I'm starting taking taking long poops during chess matches Oh You guys see that that chess match that they had where the guy got busted for cheating cuz he kept pooping

We got more drama you pooped like nine times probably taking all the ceramic Benoit balls out of his derriere Queen's Gambit Queens get great show. She was just doing pills the whole time I forgot about that. He was fucked up eyeballs on the side of her head looked like a guy I shot one time. Uh, my sit-um is Jerry, is Jerry Reinsdorf. Jerry Reinsdorf, sit-um, you're a fan of the Chicago White Sox. Congratulations. That was mine too. The end might be near for you, my friend. Because it looks like Jerry is gonna sign off the team. Looks like he's getting rid of the team. Sell the Bulls too bitch!

He said he's gonna focus on the Bulls, am I right? Yeah, no his son's gonna focus on the Bulls. He's gonna focus on the Bulls in my sleeper. What do you say we get our 401k and try and you know, make a run at it? Don't make a run at the White Sox? It'd be a real shame if the White Sox fell off the back of a truck and we owned them all of a sudden. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, would be. And then my sleeper going into this weekend is, I'm going to say my sleeper is Ashton Gentey. Have you guys heard about this kid? Mmm, more of a Travis Hunter guy. I think he's a really good player. I hope the best for him.

Travis Hunter guy. It would be a real shame if he decided to save his knees for the NFL. I'm a Travis Hunter guy. I'm a Travis Hunter guy myself too. I'm a Travis Hunter guy. Up and down. I'm just saying, be a real shame. If something happened, Ashton Jenty was like, I don't want to run anymore. I'd rather save my knees for the NFL. What's up, fuckers? My name's Nicky Chicken Pommy. Hey Nicky Chickie Bresario Nick Nicky chicken Pomerana Pomerana Bresario. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. NCPB. Nick Nick. Yeah, NCPB Nick PB and NCN CPB

NCPB that's how we spell in here. Ah NCPB that's how we spell in here. My stardom is Travis Hunter. He's actually the heisman. Don't do that. That's a good point. Don't fucking do that. My center was Jerry Reinsdorf too. Fuck that guy.

I hope he sells the Bulls too. Maybe he'll sell the White Sox. Be like, oh I got a lot of money. Maybe I should sell the Bulls too. Maybe he gets addicted to selling. That guy fucking stinks. I hate him. My sleeper is Devante Adams because he's gonna solve all the Jets problem

I agree well, and if he doesn't then they got a sign it's on reddit Yeah And that's gonna solve all the problem and then they got to sign another guy and then another guy and then another guy and then Another guy and then fire another coach and then then they got to get their own state And then maybe one of them will be like maybe Aaron Rodgers is a problem, but no, I'm not Aaron right? He's good. Nah good kid. Ah Let's let's get to our interviews. We got Kyle Rudolph and then a hologram interview with Francis Nagano. Whoa. Yeah Before we get to Kyle Rudolph

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out at Chevy.com and now here's Kyle Rudolph okay we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program, been forever. It's been a while. Been a long time. It's Kyle Rudolph, retired multi-pro bowl winner or multi-pro bowl haver. That's a good question. Did you win the Pro Bowls? One and one, 2013, 2012 season.

NFC won that one pretty big. I was fortunate to be the MVP got a car out of that oh nice I should have said that pro bowl MVP what kind of car was it? You have GMC Denali like a Yukon Denali my dad is still driving the truck seriously yeah but closing in on like 300,000 miles on it. You got taxes on it. Yeah So you I think it was Like three or four grand for the taxes Oh, that's not bad. No, not bad at all Yeah idea for the Pro Bowl where you know to get the players to have some skin in the game

The winning team all gets a year early to free agency if they want Yeah, we think about that. We're good guys. Yeah. What do you think about that? You think guys would go hard? Especially think about the guys that are in that game. Yeah. Or no franchise tag. Like they get basically a Uno card reverse on a franchise tag.

If you win the Pro Bowl. Yeah. I feel like that's, Roger Goodell, give us a call. We got tons of ideas. Most of them are bad, but I think this is a good one. Yeah. But so we haven't had you on since, I think it was the Teddy Bridgewater injury. Yeah. Uh,

many years ago, which is crazy because it's like you're, you're now retired from the NFL. Uh, obviously is tapered for still in the NFL. No, he retired. He's the head coach back at his high school in Miami Northwestern. That's love that. I love that. Teddy seems like one of those guys that everyone loved and rooted for. Yeah. I mean, I remember being with you guys like in that room. It was kind of like, yeah, it was weird. It was very like, what the fuck just happened? Yeah, we felt bad being there. And they're like, well, Teddy obviously can't do it. No one was looking us in the eye. They're like, well, you can talk to Kyle and Harrison and then Blair Walsh will talk to you. Yeah, the Blair Walsh run was that was the add-on

Cuz I know we were gonna interview you and and we didn't get Zimmer But Blair Walsh and that just became that was right after the the year that you guys lost the Seahawks in that cold game Yeah, yeah Literally the training camp after the kick. Yeah. Yeah that game was cold Yeah, I remember driving to the stadium. Like, yeah. That game was cold. Yeah. I remember driving to the stadium. Like I think we played at noon. He's just bright to it was so bright. It was like cold. You check the temperature on your phone and it wasn't wind chill

minus 26. It's it was actual temp was minus 26 driving to the stadium. And you guys were outside because the stadium hadn't been completed yet. And then I remember before that game, bud grant walked out shirt shirtless, but sleeveless was wearing a polo shirt. He was in his nineties at the time, right? Crazy. It was just, he was like, I'm going to, I'm going to set the tone for this game by going

out for the, for the coin flip wearing a polo shirt. So he had an office like at our facility, you know, winter park, the old school facility. And then at TCO, the, the beautiful big building that they have now, he always had an office like at our facility, you know winter park the old-school facility and then at TCO the the beautiful big Building that they have now he always had an office there he'd walk around and he was still very present like literally to the day he died and it was like There's just always this like gritty toughness about him Like so when he walked out for the coin toss with just a polo shirt on you like yeah that dude's crazy Anybody about the cold anymore

yeah did you get anyone go back to the locker room and they're like fuck I gotta take my sleeves off I put like my park on and went and sat on the bench and warmed up wait so I so you retired officially as a Viking you signed a one-day contract yeah I mean explain that to us because we always are like it's not a real contract I mean I didn't sign oh no don't say that yeah it's gotta be a you didn't sign anything, cuz technically if I would have signed a one-day contract during the season They would have had to have released someone for me How shitty would that be to be the guy that gets cut so I could retire a Viking? But did you get to do anything like I we always joke like we'd want to be like go do a workout or something or let

Me actually get the use out of this one-day contract I think the the coolest thing that I got to do was like my oldest two, my twin daughters, they remember going to games at US Bank Stadium. They were old enough for that. My son does not, he's five now. The one year that he might've remembered some games was 2020 when no one went to games. So he remembers New York and Tampa, which for me, there's not a whole lot to remember

from either of those two places. I didn't do much there. You caught Tom Brady's last touchdown, right? I did. That was about it. That's pretty crazy. Did you hang onto the ball? So I had the ball.

We were actually talking about it out there on the floor. I probably devalued one of the most valuable balls in the history. It was my 50th career touchdown So what you do? That's why I kept it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I kept the ball. I Had no idea that was gonna be Tom's last regular season touchdown. I don't think anyone did and so I caught the touchdown knowing it was my 50th and now like You know like the marathon runners that run the marathon and then just drop like 100 yards from the finish line, like their body just can't physically go another inch.

That was like me getting the 50 touchdowns. I had like 47 touchdowns in 2019 and I retired in 2022 with my last game catching my 50th touchdown. Like I had never had a season with less than three touchdowns in a year. And I went like one in 21 and 21 and then the last game of 22. I'm like, you know what? I'm just, I'm going to retire with 49 touchdowns the way it's supposed to be. Um, and I caught the touchdown against the Falcons from Tom. So I'm like, all right, I got, you know, I got the ball, my 50th career touchdown. Like that's pretty sweet. And then I gave it to the equipment manager and then obviously he had it painted and it says Kyle Rudolph's 50th. It does say

from Tom Brady on it. That's awesome though. I feel like that might be like when they, when they make a baseball card and there's a small Aaron or something, maybe the value of the ball is even higher because you did that to you. Got it. You know what you got to do is you got to donate that to Canton because then it will just be Tom Brady's Last touchdown ball, but it'll be your it will sign In Canton forever, yeah, they'll be like here's Tom Brady's last touchdown pass. They just say Kyle Rudolph 50th touchdown They got to do that take my boys to Canton in like 10 years. Look your dad's in the whole thing Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's a fun fact though

you can always say that like the last one that he threw unless he comes back in place for the Raiders in two years Which I I know it's impossible for him to do that. But in the back of my head, I'm like, well, what if what if yeah I mean, it's also supposedly impossible for him to continue to do the stuff that he's gonna do at Fox Yeah, like they I read something like the rules that he will have to follow It'll almost be impossible for him to broadcast games with the protocol. He can't be in production meetings. He can't talk to anyone. He can't go into other facilities across the league. He can't criticize officials. He has to abide by the tampering policies. So I don't know. Is he allowed to say like, Hey, this player's

really good. I don't know. I don't know what the rules are going to be, but it'll be interesting. But they're going to change to your point if they're going to change the rules for anybody. Yeah, it would be Tom Brady. Yeah. it's like if Tom wants to come play quarterback, they'd probably let him to Brady ever accidentally call you Gronk Mm-hmm, dude, but would he ever give you a look and you're like you're thinking I'm not Gronk. Yeah for sure like I remember like Probably like halfway through training camp, you know it's interesting because I had no obviously never played with a quarterback like Tom, not many people have. And it was more so the way in which he just simplified everything. Like if I'm running

a corner out and it's zone coverage and there's a massive void in the defense, like when I come out of my corner out, like turn around, I'm going to throw you the ball. Like so many quarterbacks that I played with were like hey, you have a corner out You got to run up to 12 yards You got to put your foot in the ground at 12 and I want you at 16 to 18 yards like right over there And if you're not there I'm gonna be pissed off because on the sheet of paper that we looked at on Wednesday It says you have a corner out and that's where you're supposed to be to whereas Tom was like

Almost at times like recess like he threw again. So I run up I got a corner out You know, I get by the linebacker. I put my foot on the ground thinking oh man I'm gonna take this thing like there's no one over here and also in the ball like skips next to me on the ground Yeah, and I turn around he's like bro. What are you doing? There's no one there like turn around turn around right away Yeah, oh, yeah that now I know why grunt caught so many balls. Cause it's like, Hey, when no one's around you and you're open, he's like, I know you're open. I'm going to throw you the ball. Right. And I felt like that's one of the things with Tom, like so many quarterbacks are worried about, okay, here's the play. What do my guys have? What's my read? What's the defense giving me for

him? He's just like, I know what my guys have. I've seen what you're going to give me like five times already. Like, so I'm just looking and it's like, Oh, no one's just like, I know what my guys have. I've seen what you're gonna give me like five times already. Like, so I'm just looking and it's like, Oh, no one's over there. I'm gonna throw the ball there. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, yeah, that makes total sense. Yeah, it becomes intuitive. Yeah. Yeah, just get open. Yeah. And I'm like, Oh, yeah, I probably should have done that. Gronk for sure would have done that. Yeah, it'll never happen again.

Did you ever try to talk to him with like a limited vocabulary? Just to make him feel comfortable. It's kind of like rock just throw ball. Yeah throw ball. I'll catch ball Yeah, no, it's it's for me. You know that was really the only reason I went to Tampa He Tom had reached out kind of earlier in the offseason as OTAs were going on Not sure what Gronk was going to do whether he retired or not and quite honestly at that point He was like, look if he comes back I'll take both of you. Like get down here.

For me at that point in my career, I wouldn't say I didn't know that was gonna be my last year going into it, but I knew the end was near and I just wanted to win. That's all I cared about. And he's like, hey we have one of the most talented teams I've ever been on. And I'm like, sweet, say no more, I'll be down there. And teams I've ever been on and I'm like sweet say no more

I'll be down there and then obviously grunk retired and I'm like now I definitely want to go. Yeah What what down the stretch? What was the what was the moment where you're like? Oh, okay. This is we're getting towards the end Was there like something that you could feel playing where you're like, oh my burst or you know, yeah I mean, no, I like I I tell people you can't lose your burst when you never had one. Yeah, that's true. Good point. Like I've never lost my burst. Yeah, we still have our burst. And that was part of probably what was so frustrating for me is like, you know, you people like, Oh, you know, you're getting older, like you're in your thirties now. I'm

like, I'm the exact same size that I've been my whole career and my skill set has never been my speed, right? I'm a big guy. You can throw the ball anywhere big catch radius That has nothing to do with running fast, right? So you can't lose something that you never had, right? but for me like I knew it was coming to the end where like what we do for Previously 16 games now 17 games like it's brutal it's a grind and if you don't enjoy it it's hard to go out and fake it and be like yeah I'll keep doing this like no like I just kind of lost the fun in it and once I lost the the joy and the enjoyment that I got out of the game that's where I

knew it's like it's time to hang them up Like you can't get that back once it's gone. That must've made it somewhat easier. Obviously it's not easy to retire something that you've been doing your whole life, but to have that feeling of like, I feel it. I know it's not the same as it used to be. He's got to make it a little bit easier. No, I'd say the decision's not easy, but it makes the transition easier. Yeah. Because you know that you're making the right decision based on how you feel. And ultimately when I tell people like when you can walk away from the game on your own, not many guys get that opportunity. Right. Football is often taken from us. And then you're on the outside, you know, looking in, man, like OTAs are starting. I should be on

a team and like training camps started. I should be in a camp somewhere. And then it's like, you see preseason games on TV and regular season games. And like last season, the 23 season OTAs training camp, regular season, we went back to Minnesota week three for the retirement deal with my family. Not once was I like, damn, I should be like, I should be out there. I was just like, when I was done, I was done. Um, it's got to feel good. I was just, yeah, like when I was done, I was done. It's funny, I actually got a phone call, because like early and free agency, there was still a few teams that were like, Hey, you know, what do you think you still want to come out?

Actually, the Raiders reached out in like August. So it was like five or six days into training camp. My agent called me and he's like, Hey, are you sure you're done? And I'm like, I'm at brunch in New York City and it's like 9 a.m. and I'm already drunk. Like it's August 1st, like I'm done. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done.

Probably a good call not going to that team last. That would have been a chaotic environment for you too. And that's honestly, one of the other ones was Cincinnati. I'm from Cincinnati. Obviously they have one of the best quarterbacks. We talked about Joe Burrow and just like his elite ability, you know, he took a franchise that I saw just be abysmal for decades to a Super Bowl, which I never

would have thought would have happened. And you know, we started talking to them and you know, I like the idea that the idea of ending my career back home, going and basically playing there for Peanuts, having my family be able to come to all my games and watch games and then being on a team with a legit quarterback and a good roster, the year before going to Tampa,

waiting as long as I did, ultimately believing that I'm picking the best situation possible and then having like for me personally and as a team, like we completely underachieved as a team. We were eight and nine. We won our division, but it was because it was the NFC South. It was the worst division in football.

Lost in the first round of the playoffs. And for me, it was just like not enjoyable of a year at all. And I thought I was picking like the most favorable situation possible. So that was kind of playing in my mind as free agency was starting at that point where I Think this is the best situation possible. But like how do you really know? Yeah, and sure enough. I would have been playing with Jake Browning Yeah, who we like Jake Browning. He would be in Minnesota. Yeah, it would have changed. Yeah

I wasn't gonna do one right right you're doing one thing and it's it's completely different I also feel like if you if you go to Cincinnati to end your career There's probably a good likelihood that you just stay there, right? And then I know the chili and oh have you seen the chili ice cream? I have seen you know, yeah, they got skyline chili ice graders. Yeah. Oh greater. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the same So graders is its own deal. Yeah Yeah, but like when you get like a Cincinnati pack Skyline would be in it graders would be in it. There's like a pizza sauce Montgomery in no no no

Graders just made a skyline chili flavored ice cream. Yeah, it's gross. I don't know how I feel about that He's gonna try it. I have yeah, I'll did what's for lunch with yeah, honey, and he made skyline chili It was a good unbelievable so Donnie came in yesterday. He was like PFT Kyle wants Skyline chili for lunch, what's in it? I was like, dude, just cinnamon. Yeah, it's crazy. Like cinnamon, chocolate. Because when we were planning the trip this week, they asked me kind of what I wanted to do.

And we were in Minnesota for 12 years. There's some Minnesota type things like the juicy Lucy burgers, those are good. All that stuff's great. And I'm like, you know, I born and raised in Cincinnati, like I love my skyline chili all sent. Cause like you can get like the packs of like, how many people we serve in four, eight 30, like I'll just give me the number of people and I'll have them send it all up and we can just rock out with it. Like, no, no, no. Donnie wants to make it from scratch. Yeah. And I was like, okay, yeah, this is gonna be, and sure enough, just walking across the basketball court into the

kitchen, I could smell it. And it smelled like Skyline chili. It tasted phenomenal. So it was pretty cool for me to get to do what's for lunch with Donnie and have a kid who grew up in Minnesota and like watch me play for the Vikings. I know. Yeah. He's a big Vikings fan. Yeah. I don't think when we interviewed you, it was before the Minneapolis miracle, right? Yeah. So yeah, that one of the best plays, most iconic plays, probably in NFL history. And you were there for it. What, what was going through your head when that happened? It's funny because everybody remembers Diggs' touchdown and like the miracle to

win the game and the walk-off touchdown that it was But people don't really know kind of the whole flow of the game, you know We were up like 16 I think it was 16 to nothing at halftime like nothing could go wrong They would come out at the start of the second half Obviously they have Drew Brees Sean Payton like they were the Saints had a run where they were really good for a long time And you never really felt like the game was over They have Drew Brees, Sean Payton, like they were, the Saints had a run where they were really good for a long time. And you never really felt like the game was over.

But for us, it was like interception, blocked punt, like everything that we could possibly do wrong to let them back in the game, we did. And then sure enough, the last couple minutes of the game was like back and forth, back and forth. They score, I think there was like 26 seconds left. But we're only down one. All we needed to do is get in field goal range

To ultimately have a chance at kicking a game-winning field goal indoors in a in a dome We weren't kicking this one at TCF Bank Stadium with it being negative 20 degrees. This one was going to be inside So, you know, we had 26 seconds I don't think we had any timeouts and it was like oh really all we need is like two chunk plays and if we can Get like a big chunk and get out of bounds now, we're really good shape and we had the play that we called Repeatedly like back-to-back ultimately the one that digs scored on and you know It's kind of myself Jerry's right and digs on one side of the formation. I go to the flat Jerry's would go like a 12 yard out and then Diggs would take the high

corner. And ultimately it's like, we want to put three guys where you only have two defenders. There's only a corner and a safety over there and you've got to pick which of the two you want to cover. So we called it on, I think it was second down and I like run out to the flat and turn and look back thinking the ball is going to come to me because there's no one around like they guarded Jerry's and they guarded digs like the 12 yard guy and the deep guy and I'm like, this is perfect case can throw me the ball

I'll get like 10 12 yards and get out of bounds now. We're 10 yards closer to that field goal and You know I run to the flat thing and the ball is coming look over my shoulder and he chucks it to Jerry's right Who was probably like 15 yards downfield over his head out of bounds? I'm like shit like now. What are we gonna do? Like, you know that that would have been 10 15 yards We just wasted, you know, however, five six seconds so we called come back we call the exact same play and So we called come back we call the exact same play and the next time the corner jumped me in the flat and it was like so we were in the bunch I run to the flat the corner covered

me right away and immediately I'm like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah well you're not supposed to be here. No like you we have no timeouts we need like 35 yards to get in the field goal range if he throws me the ball, we're doing you a favor. Yeah, I'm, I'm not going to be able to get 35 yards and get out of bounds. Like why, and why would you cover me? Cause he's in the last play and he was like, fuck, I should have gone to Kyle. Yeah. But ultimately that left Jerry S and digs two on one with whoever that safety was. He chucked it to digs. We also saw the

play where he catches it, keeps his balance, uh, you know, safety Johnson. He, I think he's in Baltimore now. Yeah. And we all were like yelling, like you got to get out of bounds. Yeah. I think about that. If that was me in that situation, I probably would have caught the ball and ran out of bounds immediately. And then it would have been up to a kicker to win the game, which obviously we saw how that went for us once in the past where there's a couple of times in Vikings, I caught a ball. So in that Seahawks game, I caught a ball in that two minute drill and like got to the nine yard line. And so I like went out of bounds as a nine yard line thinking this game's over. So for me, it's like, I would have caught that ball and probably went went out of bounds of the nine yard line thinking this game's over so for me it's like I would have caught that ball and probably went right out of bounds because that's what you're supposed to do and

For digs to like have the wherewithal to keep his balance and then just like run and score. Yeah, it was amazing now Tough question But do you think the way that game ended had anything to do with how you guys came out against the Eagles the next week? Or with Eagles just that good. I mean, they were obviously on a Super Bowl run. I think it was a combination of that. But then also, I remember that Eagles game, we went right down the field the first drive and scored. I caught a touchdown, it was seven, nothing. They went maybe three and out, but they didn't have the ball long on offense.

We got the ball back a couple of first downs like getting ready to cross midfield and I remember thinking to myself like man these these Philly fans if we can score and go up 14 nothing Like they might boo Nick Foles out of here and like we'll get him to turn and have the advantage being on the road And it was like the next third down. We threw a pick six. It was all over it was over yeah, they were cranking Meek Mill and You just it was like someone hit a bee's nest with a stick. I mean just the place was going bananas. So Everyone sees that score. I was like 38 to 7 or something. I don't remember what the final was but so they made it

7-7 then it was 14-7. We had the ball on like the 10 or 12 yard line getting ready to score with a minute or two left before half and again I run a corner out I look over my shoulder thinking the ball is gonna be in the air the game's tied 14-14 and All of a sudden I come out of my break look over my shoulder. There's no ball So then ultimately I looked down to the quarterback while the ball was on the ground So case had got strip sack. So instead of the game being tied 14-14, they have a sack fumble They go down and score 21-7. They get the ball to start the second half 28-. The next time we touched the ball, it was 28 seven instead of 14 14. Yeah. And it's like it's over. Um, so it wasn't how you came out. No, it was just, no, it

wasn't how we came out. And then for them, honestly, like they were hitting everything. Like foals hit a flea flicker to Tori Smith. Like he literally caught it like 50 yards downfield, almost out of bounds. Yeah. Uh, He hit Alshon Jeffery on a bomb. Like they were just dialing it up. Did it fuck you up though? A little knowing you're going to this NFC championship game in the soup bowls at home. Well, it had never happened. I know. And then it happened with the bucks. Yeah. Bucks in Rams. It was like two out of the next three years. It happened right away after we were so close. Um, it fucked me up more coming back after we lost and then like having Philly and New England come. Yeah. Like that, that sucked. Yeah. Um, I remember

landing, um, that was, I was fortunate to be in the pro bowl that year. So after coming back from the NFC championship loss, we went to Orlando for the week and it like gave us a break being in Orlando for the week. You didn't really think about it, but we landed back from Orlando that Monday Super Bowl and it was like the whole airport was decked out in Super Bowl gear like the Patriots plane had landed while we were In the terminal and like you see it and that's where I was like I gotta get the hell and it was also I Remember that Super Bowl week so well because I have a bunch of friends from Minnesota and I went out to dinner with them I think the Friday night and they were like, thank god we had decent weather this week. It was like 20 degrees all week, right?

They were right like that was actually like incredible weather for yeah I think it was like up till Thursday or maybe even Friday morning that week it was it was like Again though like Friday Saturday, yeah, it was brutally cool that Friday It was like negative eight walking out to the car and I was like what the fuck? Yeah, but they were like, yeah, no, it's been incredible how it's been beautiful The sun's out, it's 20 degrees We're like we're worried about this weather and it's been awesome weather Do you have any expectations put on you if you're if it's your hometown that's hosting the Super Bowl?

Do those players on teams like are you doing any events that week or anything? Yeah, I mean for us I felt like it was Kind of unique because it wasn't like we had four weeks to plan it having not made the playoffs. Right. Like we were fully anticipating, you know, for me, it's like, I'm coming back to Minnesota, I'm going to have like my wife worry about the tickets, like you handle all that stuff. I got to focus on a game instead.

We lost, went to Orlando, came home. And then basically at that point, it was like, how much money can I make this week? Yeah, that it's in our hometown, like, make as much money as possible with all the appearances and whatnot. And then for us, we got the hell out of there. And I think it was like Friday or Saturday, you didn't come to the worst parcel party ever, did you? I was there. Oh, that was so bad. Yeah, I just know what could get in house. Yeah, no one could get in Yeah, you might be thinking of the live radio setup that we oh, yeah that Friday we had this big indoor Yeah, it was like oh, there was like Rose like it was like an atrium. Yeah

That was yeah, I just remember SVP called me is like there I'm standing in line in like 10 degree weather exactly and you're freezing Yeah, and Greg Olsen I think got a table and it was just taken and it was it was that was an embarrassing And Glennie Balls had to get called outside to bring some famous musician and I'm trying to remember it was bad It was like flow right or something. We did it with our Our Super Bowl party history is like we just crushed it in Houston the first year Yeah, I remember never have done it again. That was the best party ever and every single one after that was down to a job or an Ashanti. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and it was like everyone came and everyone's like that's the best party of the week

We should just walked off right my I need the torrential dog. Oh, yeah, you read it that one. Yeah, yeah Ruffin rowdy got washed out. Yeah, like the apocalypse the bridge was like on fire I'm a Gavin just sitting in like in like three feet of rain. Yeah. That picture. Yeah. At our party. I was actually just looking at a list here of quarterbacks that you've caught touchdown passes from because I looked it up. I was like, well, Tom Brady's, you know, obviously one from him. Can you name every quarterback that you've caught a touchdown from? Yeah. Christian Ponder, Matt Castle, Joe Webb, Joe Webb. I believed in Joe Webb. That was in Washington on Christmas Eve. Joe, I lost a lot of money thinking Joe Webb was

going to go into green Bay and the playoff game. I believe Joe Webb is the answer. Michael Vick did it. Joe Webb. That was 2011 was when I caught the touchdown from Joe Webb on Christmas Eve, second to last year. That was the game We beat Washington in Washington So we didn't get Andrew Luck. We would have had the number one overall pick if we had lost to Washington We lost to Chicago the next week. So Joe Webb kept us from having Andrew Luck But

Ultimately, yeah, so that Joe Webb the next year Christian got hurt week 17, we beat green Bay at home to them, play them in the wild car round in green Bay and the whole week we like, cause media is only at practice during the individual period. And like Christian pretended like he was practicing, even though he couldn't even throw a football. And it was like, we try to keep it a secret that Joe was going to be the starter, but then ultimately we didn't change anything. Like we didn't change the office to shoot Joe Webb. I thought you were going to go Joe, a full Joe Webb on them. The next week, green Bay goes to San Fran and Colin Kaepernick runs all over.

And it's like, we had that guy the week before we could have just let Joe run all over the place. I haven't thought of Joe Webb forever. I was a believer in Joe a very frustrating playoff game to watch. I was like do something I know you can do well cold Love Joe to death from Birmingham, Alabama Yeah, like as Joe's lips are frozen in Green Bay like with his thick like Birmingham accent trying to hear him Annunciate the place That was a challenge in itself. Yeah, then it would have been. Let's see who'd you say so far? You said Christian Ponder, Tom Brady, Joe Webb.

Yeah, I'm going to go chronological order. That'd probably be my best chance. So it would Matt Castle, Teddy Bridgewater, Sam Bradford, Case Keenum, Kirk Cousins, Daniel Jones, and then Tom Brady. There's one. One more. Who would it have been? Matt Castle. I said Matt Castle. Oh, you said Matt Castle? said oh you said that guy all right. Yeah, you got them all cuz then there's I mean there I've also had games that I've started with quarterbacks as well that is in catch touchdowns from two so you got Donovan McNabb Marcus Freeman

Sean Hill a lot of people thought Marcus Freeman was the best quarterback coming out of college. Yeah, I know that's Josh Freeman Josh Yeah, that's right. I'm at Josh Freeman Marcus Freeman's the best quarterback coming out of college. Yeah, I know that's Josh Freeman Josh Yeah, that's right. I met Josh Freeman. Josh Freeman's a head coach in order to the Donovan McNabb Vikings era Donovan five games Yeah, I went to I went to a Monday night game Yeah bears Viking and he was I just remember sitting there like chuckling to myself because every pass was just like five yards in front of everyone Yeah, so that was that was Donovan Christian started the next week five yards in front of everyone. Yeah. So that was that was Donovan. Christian started the next week. The Josh Freeman can't wait by set Marcus Freeman. What a fucking idiot. The coach at Notre Dame. That's okay. Josh Freeman. We played in London against the Steelers. We were oh and three. Christian was the starter

for the first three weeks. He got smoked in like a Browns game. Remember? I think his Phil Taylor was like the big defensive tackle from the Browns. Yeah. Massive dude. Like he hit Christian, I think he broke like two or three of his ribs. So Christian was out when we went to London. Matt Kessel started, we beat the Steelers in London and like we were talking about it over there on Yak.

Like we stayed the night in London and then flew home the next morning. We were one and three, but we were going into the bye week with a win. We had a huge good time in London. Flew back. Matt started the next week against Carolina. That was the year that Carolina won 15 in a row or something.

So they beat us. And it was like, ultimately Josh, we had traded for Josh Freeman over the bye week. He had been there for like five practices Yeah, we started him on Monday night in New York and it was like one of the historically worst performances By a quarterback ever and I felt so bad for him. He had been there for five days and yeah Let's throw him out there on Monday night football against the Giants So that was bad, but then they ran back with Josh Dobbs, right?

This might be a dumb question. This is probably just like my memory and just all the years of football. It was Josh Freeman, a big snake guy. Yeah, he was like all over his Yeah, apparently he was a big snake. Was really? Yeah, like, I don't know why that's a fact. I never didn't have in my brain. I could remember like what I'm doing later today. But I'm like, No, I actually just have Josh Freeman was a snake guy. Yeah. And I never never went to a spot, but I heard that like you just kind of had them everywhere. Like

they weren't in in like glass. Yeah, they're just living. Yeah. Yeah. Free range. Yeah. I mean, coming out of college, the big argument was who do you want? Cam Newton or Josh Freeman? And I feel like Cam Newton might have won that debate. Yeah, I would say so I'd say they probably won that way. I mean but Josh I mean he could throw it a hundred yards I mean he had an absolute cannon who's who's the hardest? What's the hardest you've ever been hit by any player Lance Briggs? He it was the Sunday after Thanksgiving we were playing in Chicago noon kickoff

I Was running like a crossing route. I didn't get the ball and he came down and just like smoked me Probably would be a penalty today. Yeah Do you get mad about that? I was like sitting on the ground and it was kind of like one of those things I was like sitting on the ground and it was kind of like one of those things I was collecting my thoughts. Didn't really hit me right away. I was like, okay, like he hit me pretty good.

Go back to the huddle. The next play was fourth in goal. We ended up turning it over on downs, went to the sideline. I think the Bears went three and out. They punted it back to us and then like the we went three and out on the next drive and we got the ball back and it was autopilot like I was out there I was in the huddle. I was where I was supposed to be I ran the route that I was supposed to run I blocked like no clue. Yeah recollection come to the sideline and like one of the practice squad tight ends like toss me a

Like a beanie and bro, what's this for? He's like it's your hat like a beanie and bro, what's this for? He's like, get your hat. Holy shit. What do I need a hat for? And they're like, uh, shook like our head trainer like shook. You need to talk to Rudy. He's he's a little out there right now. And so sure enough, they like came over and like, you know, do you know who are playing? You didn't have an answer? No. Wow. Like, do you know what month it is?

And I was like, October. I was sure as shit it was October. I said the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Yeah. I said October like that. Nailed it. Nailed it. Yeah.

Now like, let me get back in the game. So they took me to the locker room. I failed my iPad test miserably. Our head doctor was like, you know, do you have anybody at home that can look out after you tonight? You know, just make sure you're all right. I'm like, yeah, I live with Harrison Smith. Like he's on the fucking table over there.

He knocked themselves out in the first quarter. And like, well, do both of you have someone that can take care of you? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, my, not wife, Jordan. It's like, she'll take care of us. Um, so yeah, she took care of both of you. Yeah. And it was funny because they like told her they're like, you know, tried to, you know, typical don't watch TV, like make sure you wake him up throughout the course of the night. And like we, we got back and we're

like watching Sunday night football in a dark room, exactly what you're not supposed to do. Yeah. Don't you dare wake us up. Like if we're sleeping, don't wake us up. But yeah, so that was the hardest I ever got hit. And it was funny because after, after I said that and I walked like back towards my locker, it like immediately came back. Like something triggered my mind that Notre Dame, I there was like a I saw because we had Everson Griffin and Matt Khalil Castle may have been on the team at that we like a bunch of USC guys on the team and like I don't know if I

put like a Notre Dame something in one of their lockers or it triggered my memory like right away and I like turn and ran back and I'm like it's the Sunday after Thanksgiving Notre Dame just beat USC last night, like I'm good. And they're like, hit the showers. You're not going back out there. So the iPad test that they give you, what was on the iPad? Yeah, it's like a lot of like memory thing and like numbers. So like, hey, here's five numbers in order,

like repeat them back or, you know, here's six words. Like we want you to remember them. And then we're going to ask you other questions and we're going to come back and say like, hey, read here's six words like we want you to remember them and then we're gonna ask you other questions We're gonna come back and say like hey read me the six words If you don't know what month it is or who you're playing I don't even know why they gave me the iPad test Right. Yeah, clearly I failed. Well, you were confident with October. Yeah, maybe they're like, oh, he's got it Yeah, they just want to have you believe in it. Yeah I love the idea of them sending you and Harrison Smith home together and just like, okay, look after

each other. Take care of one another. You guys got this. So what was that like living with a teammate? Was that was always you know, like, so Harry and I obviously we went to Notre Dame together. He was a year ahead of me at Notre Dame. So he was there for five, I left after three. So he got to Notre Dame in 07. I got to Minnesota in 11, and then he got there in 12. So I had already been there for a year. We drafted him in the first round,

and he was trying to figure out kind of where to live. And I'm like, dude, just live with me. Let's live together. And it was awesome. We had a blast. It was to be able to live with one of your college buddies as you're both still trying to figure out the whole NFL thing. For me. It was year two

It was it was good. It was good year for us both to like went to the playoffs, you know, Harry kind of I Don't think a lot of people expected him to be as good of a professional as he was like right away You know he came out. He had three touchdowns as a rookie like pick sixes just balled out from the beginning Yeah, yeah. All right. So I got a couple last questions been awesome catching up with you Do you still talk to Charlie Weiss? I do actually and he and his bird cuz I think you were the one who told us about The bird so fuego. Yeah, so fuego. I think you were the one who Know who told us about the bird. He might have invented the bird, but then we talked to Charlie Weiss He's like, yeah, I got a bird

I guess he's got he's got two birds that he lives in his house and they like attack people as they walk in asshole parrot named soul fuego so fuego no so every time I would spend time he always had like golden retriever like dogs don't remember the birds but yeah Charles I still talk to Charlie probably weekly I was just texting with him the other day I saw him he came over you know obviously he lives on the Atlantic side of South Florida, so he drove over to Tampa a couple weeks ago, we got together. But for me, like 18 years old, you go to college

and your head coach is so much more than a head coach for you at that point in your life. For me, he really became like a father figure and someone that I'm still super close with to this day. And Charlie's awesome, man. He's lost like 150 pounds or something. Holy shit.

Yeah. He looks great. Like when I saw him a couple of weeks ago, he's moving around as good as I've ever seen him move around. Charlie Jr's got a couple of kids now and it's just like, I think- He's at Ole Miss, right? Yeah, he's the offensive coordinator at Ole Miss. And I think that really kind of just, you know, opened his eyes to, you know, like, I need to get it

together. Like, you know, Charlie, the grandkids, like I want to be here for them. And it's been awesome. You know, we one of my college roommates, Mike Golic, Jr, his family has a charity event back in South Bend every summer, do a cool golf tournament and stuff. And Charlie was back this year. We had like 10 or 12 of the guys from my class. And it was just awesome to see him,

awesome to spend time with him and see him doing so well. That's awesome. You ever hang out with the Golick's pugs? Yeah, yeah. So the dogs are always around. They're just the best family. I mean, like all the kids. They are. The Mr. Golick, Mrs. Golick, Um, they're, they're just the best family. I mean like all the kids, the mr.

Golic, Mrs. Golic, uh, they, they really took all of us in. They were kind of like our parents when we were in school. Um, they're, they're good people. Yeah, no, we love the Golis. We always love the Golis. All right. So my last question, rollback question, rhopack.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase cues, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts,

rowback.com promo code take. So you, you came to the office today where it was awesome. We did the pro football show, which will be out Friday night. Uh, you're doing a bunch. You did the gauntlet. You're not plugging anything, but we got to plug the fact that you are still doing an awesome foundation. So we got to talk about it. That's what you're doing for me. Uh, coming out of the of the pandemic, Jason Zucker, who played for the Minnesota wild, he's on the Buffalo Sabres currently, we did a ton of stuff together in the Twin Cities around Masonic Children's Hospital. And, you know, we had all the traditional

events. We had the the Barstool golf guys out to our golf tournament. Like, remember that we had Dave and rigs, Trent Frankie, like when Frankie was Dave's camera guy, like I'd give them a hard time because it's like way before any of you guys were famous, you were celebrities in my golf tournament. And like now they're huge. They were not famous at the time they were celebrities and in our golf tournament, but uh, we always had those traditional events like the, the fancy events, the golf tournaments. Hell, we even created like a beer Olympics on Lake Minnetonka, which is a touchy subject given the history of the Vikings and

Lake Minnetonka. Fred Smith, the history of the beer Olympics. Yeah. So we, we called it the Lake Bash. That was our like, politically correct way of saying we're going to raise money for a children's hospital, but we're going to play flip cup and quarters and beer pong and all this fun stuff. So it's like we tried to find as many creative ways as we possibly could to

raise money for the children's hospital there. And the children's hospital is amazing. Like the nurses, the doctors, the staff, everybody, they're incredible. I've loved serving them as much as we can over the course of my time there. And for me, it was really coming out of the pandemic where we didn't have any events. Like you couldn't have all the traditional charity events that you always had.

And sitting down with Jason and some of our other supporters from the Children's Hospital who have become co-founders in Altru, the company that we started to ultimately raise money for nonprofits Was we wanted to come up with a way in which like you think about sports? Particularly sports obviously now we're in music We have it's wild with right now on our website on all true calm

I want to challenge the stoolies because the Swifties went crazy this week I'm going to the Taylor Swift concert next Friday in New Orleans. Okay. Thanks to the Mario Davis. He had a suite there. He hooked us up with some tickets. My daughters probably won't see the show, so I can say this. I'm taking my eight-year-old twin daughter. So my wife and I are taking our twin daughters over. They're super jacked about it. But we had two extra tickets and we put them on our platform to raise money for the hurricane relief, which we've lived through both of them.

And like seeing the Tampa Bay area and the destruction from Helene, which a lot of people don't realize because the storm hit so much further north and you hear about Carolinas in Tennessee and Georgia, they don't realize how bad the Tampa area flooded from Helene. And then obviously from Milton, you know, that was a direct path right through there.

And it was like, everybody pretty much already had their lives out at the curb because it was flooded. And then this, you know, storm rolls through with high winds. It's just, it's been pretty catastrophic for just that Bay area. And I was like, look, we did so much for Minnesota when we were in Minnesota and I get it. I was here for like a cup of coffee. I don't even, I played like five games for the bucks. I think I, I was in sweats a majority of that season, but I'm like, this is home now. We want to do something to support this community. And we have these tickets that people are just

dying to get. They're in a suite at the Caesar superdome in New Orleans. Um, so we threw those up and I mean, it was like $25,000. Oh, that's awesome. And like she's not even associated with it. Like they're not even promoting. This is just people seeing it on the site and like, a, we want to support the hurricane relief and B like the Swifties came out and supported big time. So I need the stoolies to dominate the back end. We got through the weekend. Um, and then basically the way our platform works is we, most of the time we partner with celebrities.

So you know, whether it be, uh, we actually did something with the four play guys. So the four play guys sent a winner and a guest to the Ryder Cup when it was in Paris and the way we do it is like we want to create those once-in-a-lifetime opportunities that Most of the time are out of reach for diehard sports fans. Yeah, your diehard sports fans not spending 10,000 bucks in a live auction to buy that trip Yeah, it's priced out of a majority of our fans who spend their hard earned money on the game they can go to or the season tickets or whatever they can do

to support their team. With us, you can support your favorite player, your favorite musician, your favorite actor for as little as $10. And it's like we do donations directly to their nonprofit from $10 to $500. And then you have chances to win these ones. Yeah, so it's awesome. It's a sweepstakes model in which, you know, for us, we have four co founders who are to our core, you know, philanthropists, and it's about raising as much money as we possibly can for these other individuals,

charities, providing a platform. We, we, we aren't, uh, we don't go to anything, but let's, let's do something with us. Let's have someone, let's do an auction where someone can watch NFL football with us on a Sunday. So come to the gambling cave. I would love that. Let's do it with you guys. We'll, we'll give fans the opportunity to, you pick the charity. Yeah. You get to pick the nonprofit, Uh, and we'll, we'll get it up and going and get the stool to have an opportunity to hang out with you. That'd be awesome. We'd be happy to do that. And then when the next rider cup comes

around me and big cat, we're just talking about this. They're pricing out all the real golf fans here in America. So if you want to go up to Beth page and watch the rider cup was a 750. Yeah. Crazy. I saw that sheet that came out ticket prices. Maybe we can do something like that and send like a diehard golf fan. Yeah, that's not able to afford. It's crazy because in three years we've raised I think like over $6 million for charity. We've worked with over 165 different nonprofits. And to me, that's one of the cool parts is like, what we were able to do in Minneapolis with a children's hospital was amazing and again to serve those doctors patients families nurses

it's great for that community and Like the legacy that we were able to leave as a family in that small community is cool That's awesome But now what Altru allows us to do is impact organizations all across the country And even like we worked with Sidney Crosby last year and we're getting ready to launch again with Sid. His foundation's in Canada. It's like a youth camp in Canada that we fund for him through an experience

to go to a Penguins game and like meet Sid and get a signed stick. And you know, to your point, like the diehard sports fans are often priced out of these once in a lifetime experiences. And of the, call it 170 winners that we've had over the last three years, it's almost interesting how good like fate is.

And we were just, two weeks ago I was in LA for Arnold Schwarzenegger had a poker tournament at his house to benefit after school all-stars as his non-profit. And we call them rallies, because it's a sweepstakes, but ultimately we're trying to get fans to rally behind these causes and these celebrities. And so we did a rally with Arnold where the winner got to go to Arnold's house and play in the poker tournament and go to the event.

And it's like to buy a seat at that event, it was like 50 grand to have a spot at the poker event. And this woman who's a to have a spot the poker event and this woman Who's a diehard Arnold fan with like an Arnold tattoo on it? Won the opposite of meeting at their house. And so to me like yes We're raising money for for all these great nonprofits and like that's a win in itself Because what I've tried to create is almost like a completely different pool of charitable dollars almost like a completely different pool of charitable dollars. These little like 10, 25, $50 donations wouldn't be going to charity if you didn't have a reason to give them. Right. It would just be all of the events and the high net worth

donations and the corporate sponsors. Like all of that money that's always been going to charity will continue to go. How do we take that, call it billion dollar market and raise more money and add to it? But then the flip side is the winners. Yeah. And when you, when you tell these people that they won and they can't believe it, uh, we, with the Minnesota Vikings foundation over the summer, we gave away a brand new Ford F one 50. So Northland Ford dealers in Minnesota, ponied up a brand new F-150. They donated to the charity Vikings fans got to donate for a chance to win a new truck and

Sure enough. The winner was like a local st. Paul guy Had a Viking season ticket holder for 25 years. We get his address Victor literally the mascot and I roll up to his house knock on the door and like Literally the mascot and I roll up to his house knock on the door and like This dude had a rusted out f-150 in his drive. Oh, that's perfect. And it was like so cool I mean, he just starts crying right away He was like I don't ever buy myself a new truck cuz I got my wife a new car and he's like I've been a season ticket holder for 25 years. I love the Vikings. I'm like, let's go pick out your truck So the the winner side is almost as cool as yeah

That's amazing. I do have to follow up since you alluded to The love boat friend smooth and the love cruise that you guys had this is before your time. It was you weren't there I think that was 2006. Oh six. I was still in high school. Okay, trust me I lived on Lake Minnetonka and like the first time we went out on Lake Minnetonka, it was brought to our attention immediately. This is what happened. Don't do it. So what stories were still in the building? Were there guys still from that team? Yeah. I think the funniest story and it really wasn't even from two stories. I'll tell two stories. Uh, first of which was a result of love boat and or love cruise whatever they called it and it was Chad Greenway who's like a Dear friend of mine like was a mentor as soon as I got drafted to the Vikings took me under his wing

He was their first first round draft pick that next year And he's like they 100% drafted me because I was like a clean-cut white guy from Iowa And it was like we got to clean up our image Like we can't be having like this love boat. So he swears that's why he got drafted by the Vikings. So that was a funny story from it. And the other was like the team meeting that followed, so it happens, like it hits the news. Everybody gets called into the facility.

The Will family had just bought the team. Like they just bought the team in 06. And so Mark and Ziggy are there and they're talking to the team. Like they just bought the team in Oh six. And so Mark and Ziggy are there and they're talking to the team and Mark doesn't have much of an accent like Mark speaks. You know, they're from New Jersey, but you wouldn't know that Mark is foreign. So Ziggy on the other hand, like still has a very thick accent. And the guy said that, you know, Ziggy was just like, you could tell he was so disappointed

in everybody on the team and he's kind of going through it and he's like, you know, I just, and everybody in their minds thinking like, what's he gonna say? Like, what's he gonna say that he's most disappointed about? Like, was it the hookers on the boat or the drugs that were all over the place or like whatnot? And he

goes, I just, I can't understand how you would pee in someone's yard. When the guys got all got off the boat, that's what got us. Someone was peeing in someone's backyard and that's like the police report was that someone was peeing in someone's backyard and it wasn't that there was a million hookers getting off the boat and drugs everywhere. And they like, again, talking to Jim Klein saucer, who was a tight end. When I got there as a rookie going into his 13th year, Jim would tell that story. And he's just like, I was dying. He's like, you're thinking of what's the worst thing he could possibly say that this poor guy who just bought the team heard that one of our morons was doing on this boat. Yeah. I just can't believe you guys would pee in someone's yard. I was like the most disappointed.

I would have been sick if he was like, I just can't believe you guys didn't invite me. I just bought the team. Yeah. We just spent all this money and you guys didn't give us an invite. Well, Kyle, thanks so much, man, for coming by. always great to see you and we will set it up So we'll let everyone know when we get it set up and we'll do something fun for the stoolies and always great having you on man I appreciate you guys. I can't believe it had been I know 60 I mean I see you guys all the time big can we hang out at? But yeah I hadn't hadn't gotten on the show in a while just randomly checking into the hotel and for our one vacation a year after Super Bowl, me and my wife and

it was just Kyle standing there with his wife. It's like, all right, let's go to dinner. Yeah, we both had the exact same thing. It was like the season ended and we left the kids at home and went to the Bahamas to have a trip. But yeah, no, I appreciate you guys. It's been awesome to be back. I tried to dust out my old big country t-shirt I still have that somewhere. Yeah, one of the best t-shirts Yeah, I you know a it was like the soft cotton type t-shirt but then just the fact that there's not a Aside from enjoying country music like yeah, there's not a country bone in my body Yeah, we just put a nickname on you didn't work big white guy with tattoos

Yeah, we just put a nickname on you didn't work big white guy with tattoos like and it went like still to this day I have people like yo big country I am from a country and then like Country is in my family like my mom grew up on a dairy farm like it's in there, but I'm not Yeah, you're not I was like soft grew up in Cincinnati. Who's next up. Maybe you can pass the nickname down. Maybe there's always one tight end in the NFL. That's big country. Yeah. Well we could go through it. I mean, I, Cole who was here earlier, Cole could be, Cole could be a great big country. And he's just like, I grew up in, in the suburbs, like the rich area of Chicago is probably never spent a day in his life on a farm. Big country.

Uh, you want to get. You want to pass it down to Cole? We'll, we'll, we'll convene. We got to go through a more formal vetting process. We're going to watch football tonight. We'll, we'll, we'll figure it out. Yeah. So definitely pass it on to someone that doesn't deserve it much like I did. All right. Thanks so much. Kyle Rudolph was brought to you by the PFL Professional Fighters League. The MMA event of the year, the Battle of the Giants is coming up fast. Lineal heavyweight world

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Francis, first of all, thank you for joining us. We are looking at you. It looks like you're in this room with us. I know you said you've never done a hologram before, but it's pretty damn cool from this end. So thank you for doing this. You're welcome. Thank you. I mean, as I said, I feel a little uncomfortable. A little uncomfortable, like the hologram stuff. I never done that. I mean, at least not as a entity. Yeah. Yeah. I've done a hologram, but not for entity. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it does look cool on our head. It's going to come out cool for our fans. So let's talk about the fight. October

19th. You're getting back in the octagon. You are putting on the MMA gloves again. What's going through your head now that you've had like, you know, a couple of years off, switched to boxing, now back to this. Do you feel like you had to sharpen your skills and, and kind of relearn some things or is it like getting on a bike and just riding it again? It's not like relent something, but it's like getting on the bike and ride it again obviously like after a while you kind of like question if you're gonna ride it as you used to you know as fast performance and stuff but at the end of the day the skill is still there then it just take a couple months to sharpen the skills you know yeah so it's like right riding a bike like going to the gym the skills, you know? Yeah. So it's like riding a bike.

Like going to the gym the first time, you're worried like, am I even going to remember how this works? Like, did I forget something? And then you get in the gym, you get on the mat, you find yourself in a situation, then it just feels like you were there two days ago. Do you feel like boxing made you a better MMA fighter? I think both are very different sports. They are very completely different.

Because even if you perform your boxing, the training that you do for boxing, the position, the guard and everything is not what's out there for MMA. But you have to like be very careful of your posture after coming from boxing to MMA because if you stand like you're standing in boxing in MMA with it giving an opportunity to a guy to kick your legs, to take you down and all this stuff is not good at all. Yeah. Yeah. I could imagine. Like have you noticed yourself doing that in training where you catch yourself every now and then

doing like a boxing stance or acting like you're in boxing. So that doesn't happen when you're training and getting ready for this fight. No, no, no. It's not like I've been doing boxing for, I don't know, for 10 years that now I have a body metabolism for it. Like, no, I've been doing MMA mostly. So going back into MMA is easier. I mean, what would it be complicated? Would it be like to come to do boxing from MMA after being doing MMA for such a long time.

But again, I was always able to distinguish both of them, make the difference between boxing and MMA. And you said that the punches are harder in MMA, right? In UFC? I mean, technically, yes. I mean, in MMA, remember, it's four ounce gloves with some time like with your benign, your neck, some of your knuckles are not open. So sometimes you get caught by that. That's why like you will find a lot of injury in MMA. In MMA, knee and elbow are allowed.

And I think those are more brutal. Yeah. Yeah. How, how, this is a dumb question for you. How awesome does it feel when you connect with a punch and knock someone out? That's gotta feel like the coolest feeling in the world where you're like, man, like I could never knock anyone out. I'm, I'm a pussy. But, uh, for you, like hitting someone perfect, is it just an incredible feeling? Like adrenaline rush? I think winning is an incredible feeling. Like, you know, like right in the action with the

adrenaline and everything when you're fighting, you don't think about like, Oh, I knocked this guy out like the punches, you know, you just think about the overall result, which is what matters most. Because like sometimes during the fight, you can really feel like you connect with someone and then he doesn't go down, right? And sometimes somebody goes down like and you're even like wondering why he's down, like if he slipped because you didn't feel like you truly connect, but yet you clip him in some way. Yeah. What's the most satisfying way to win? I have my own answer, but I haven't fought very much UFC so maybe you have a different one than I do. Well the most satisfying way to win is to have

your hand raised that's the most. If you are asking about the most is to have your hand raised and then it depends on the play out you know on how the fight plays out. I think sometimes you go to a tough battle and then you come back, you win the fight and then it's more satisfying, you know, than when you just get in the fight and get a knockout. That seems like, of course, you're fresh, you know, you're not hurt, but it can be, it can be you like a lucky shot. Yeah. I think, I think the best way, at least as a spectator is a liver shot when you connect

on a body shot and then like two seconds later, they, they collapsed the ground. That's my favorite one to watch. Oh, okay. That's cool. Yeah. I also, also the UFC like a guillotine choke. You've done that before. You submitted someone with a guillotine choke. Have you in training and everything, have you ever tapped? I've never tapped personally. Have you ever tapped? Yes. Oh wow. I have done. Why? I would never tell. Well, I think no. Why? Because that maybe that's why you're not proficient. No, I think I can handle myself No. And I think when you have somebody in the gym that will not tap, that's not good for training. He's putting people at risk.

He's putting himself at risk and you at risk. Because I think the confusion here is to understand the purpose of training, of why you're there. You know, sometimes tapping is like, okay, I made a mistake, you know, like, you're there to learn, you're not there to prove anything. And I think tapping is not like a sign of weakness. It's like, noticing that yes, you did some mistake. And then at that point, that maybe raise your awareness of what you did, like for not to do it again, you know, off to learn from it instead of like being there and playing tough. Yes, maybe you might play tough in the gym and don't have to tap and then you get in the fight and then find yourself passing out. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's a bit he wouldn't he wouldn't then he wouldn't be productive

Yeah, your training wouldn't be productive just because of your ego But if you make your training productive, you're trying to understand you are not there to prove to people You know, like I always say like training for me is just exercising I don't really consider I'm there to learn. Like, in fact, for the most most time, like when I have partners, which I think they are not in my level, or even if they're at my level, I want to put my arm like to get myself in a difficult situation and see how I can overcome that situation. You know, I like to get someone on my back. I want to like to get some get down

and get someone on top of me, stuff like that. You know, learn, understand like the keys of getting out of those difficult situations. Then I learn. But if I stand up, I'm sure this guy will not take me down, right. So I'd rather just lay down for him make things easy. And so he helped me walk in maybe because this guy is a jujitsu guy, but he's not a wrestler. He does he's not

strong enough to take me down. Right. So it's for what I want. You know, I put myself in the position to learn, then I find myself in the ground getting some some time have to tap because he's a expert in Jiu-Jitsu. In fact, that's why I get him shit there. Yeah. Yeah. To help me understand what's going on. Yeah. I mean, that's a that actually now I think I will tap because Francis Nganu, one of the toughest guys in the world says it's okay to tap. I'm not going to tap because I'm never going to fight Francis Nganu. Yeah. That's my one rule. I've always said that my entire life. If I ever meet you, I'm not going to fight because I'm never going to fight Francis Ngano. Yeah. That's my one rule. I've always said that my entire life.

If I ever meet you, I'm not going to fight you. You can try all you want, but I'm not going to punch you. When you're training for this fight, are you trying to find somebody that mimics the style of your opponent? Do you have somebody that you hand select because you think that it matches up with what your opponent's going to do? Of course. You always do that.

Always like match up. Of course, you always do that. It's not only about your opponent, it's also about your strategy. What is the strategy that you want to implement in the fight? What's your game plan? How do you think you should approach the fight? Also, your sparring partner could be picked up into that. For example, like, for example, you want to strike and then you better have a good training sparring partner. You want to wrestle, you better have a sparring, a wrestler as a sparring partner to get you work those muscles conjection

because otherwise you will get in the fight and in the first action, like, uh, you feel the congestion in your hands and, uh, blood flow and everything you can move. Yeah. It might be a dumb question, but do you ever get scared? Um, I would say nervous. Yes. Just as nervous as you don't want to lose.

Never as nervous as when, uh, I don't know, like when musician is going to a scene, they are nervous, you know. I would say scared because you kind of like tell yourself that at the end of the day, what can possibly happen? The worst is that I get hit in the face, you know. And at this point, I'm not into like not into like, get it really like concert that I don't want to get hit in the face, but he won't be a drama is not exactly like what it is. It's not exactly what we're hearing, you know, so it's okay.

Yeah. So your story is incredible. You obviously, you grew up in Cameroon in poverty. You're working in a quarry, moved to France. Have you, do you have moments where you sit back? You're like, I can't believe my life and how I was able to make it through all this adversity and, and, and basically given no chance to get to where you are right now to being one of the best fighters in the world. Well, yes, there are moments like that. I mean, I still do. I like when I think from where I came from, when I go where I came from, to see where I am today, it's still

kind of like unbelievable, even though it's believable, because you have to believe in order to make it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's a great story. It's so cool. Yeah. But you know, the thing is that I don't really like just sit down and like count it because I think what I'm focused about right now is like how far can I go until I stop? Because like where I am today is not where I was yesterday. And then my purpose is to be somewhere else tomorrow and the day after and the day after until all this end.

So yes, of course I look back for a reference, but I'm focus forward. Do you have a moment when you were growing up or maybe when you moved to France where you had a moment where you're like, I think I might be I think I might have a special talent here. Like there's something or maybe someone told you it and you realize for the first time, because I love those stories of, you know, so incredible athletes having that first light bulb moment where you're like oh this this I might have something here that's different than everyone else. My light bulbs my light bulbs wasn't my talent in fact I didn't know I didn't see I didn't go into a combat sport gym into a boxing gym until I was 22 years old. That's crazy. But, but yet in my entire life, I believe in this. I think my life goal was a faith,

you know, determination in order to do what I do. And let's be honest right here, I don't think I'm the most skilled guy. I don't think I'm the most talented guy. In fact, I think talent is very important. But I think talent doesn't make you a champion. Talent doesn't make you put you in the top of the game. Like there's only one thing is your dedication, your determination and your hard work. Because the most talented people, for some reason, and how to work because the most talented people, for some reason, they are not always in top of the game. They might maintain play, use talent to get to the middle and start there, but to get on top of the game,

you need way more than talent, and which is something that a lot of people, they don't have, and they never get in that position. Talent doesn't get you here. So I was lucky. I mean, in fact, I think in some way, I would say, is a luck not to have too much talent. Yeah.

That's interesting. I'm a very, very lucky man. Because when you have talent, you relied on that talent, you trust that talent, and then you under look the most important side of it, which is like the hard work, which is like your motivation, your determination, and all those stuff. You underline them and then that play back on you. Even at school, you will see talented genius. They never do their homework. They don't do stuff. Everything comes to them and they just take it as it's counted. Even though they might have the first note in the class, they don't study.

But they get to the point that they need to study, but since they never used to study, it's hard for them. But the guy that was always in the middle, that was always grinding, you know, started, he's there already. He has that core and that's what drives him somewhere more than time. Yeah, it's a great point. Like knowing that you're not the most talented person can be a huge asset because you know, you have to outwork the most talented person that you see that hasn't, you know, come to them naturally. What was the point though when you were growing up that you realized that you were super, super strong?

In my family, we used to always be strong. We had a reputation of being strong, even like me. As far as I can remember, my dad and my uncle, they were talking about them, like the strongest guy in the village around and stuff. So I knew I was strong, but was strong, strong, is it enough? Is it enough to do whatever you want to do that you don't know even where to do it, where to start it? That was the problem. You know, the problem wasn't about strength. Yes, you're strong, but we are talking about a

discipline that you have to practice, you have to learn. And I haven't learned yet. So how come would I be, would that be useful to me? So when you're talking, when you're talking about determination and how much you put in how much work you put in What does that look like in your world? Like how how often are you training? What is what is your determination getting you? Determination is not just about like The training it doesn't come about training. Let me tell you something I believe in this sport and in what I'm doing in where I am now 10 years 10 years before the first time stepping

in the gym. You know, that faith is also a part of it. I think you need faith first and then you have the determination and then we will talk about hard work and everything, but you need to believe in it at first, because you are not determined about something that you don't believe is a waste. It's first about your faith to have a consistent faith, stuff like that. Those are more important. Interesting. stuff like that, those are more important. Interesting. So then you go to that. That's what gets you into the game.

That's what gets you to believe into something that's self believing, that faith that you have in you and your capability of achieving something. That's what gets you into that. And I read that. And again, it's an incredible story that you have when you're growing up, you had to walk six miles to school. Yes. Every day. Yeah. It was six miles one way. Six miles. So what time would you have to wake up in the morning for that? I used to wake up around like 5.30, six when I was living at our house that I was living because the school was at six, it's six miles. Um, so I will count, like, we will count like two hours to work. I mean, I'm saying six miles.

I don't know exactly. I would say around that, but, um, yeah, that's such a long way to go to school. Like when I would wake up in the morning for school, I wouldn't want to even get out of my bed. I'd be like, no, the kitchen's too far away. I want to walk all the way to get breakfast. You're walking six miles. Yeah, but that's just human nature. I'm walking six miles that I think is far, but the other kids are walking four miles. Some are walking, someone I walk in one, but even those who walk one thing is far. And even if I was one mile away from school, I would have think the same thing. It's just like human nature. But when you don't have an option, then you just get settled

to what you have. Yeah. Can I ask you a random question? A video that I saw last year that was, I mean, it's just, it's a hilarious video. The time you accidentally pushed on a pole door and broke and shattered the door. Can you, what did the, what did the shop, did you see this video? I haven't seen this one. Francis goes up to like, it looks like a 7-Eleven basically. And he was pushing on a pole door and he just shatters the door. Didn't even look like you pushed it hard. What did the what did the shop owner say? You paid for the door. You're a great guy. But what did the shop owner say when he when he realized

it was you and it wasn't just like oh someone had broken his door you know on purpose. Well I think what's happened is that you didn't follow back on that video. Otherwise you wouldn't find out that he was he was a prime he was just something that we said oh that was a prank oh damn we got got that makes sense you're contributing to fake news all right that was fake news that was a good prank it wasn't a fake it wasn't a fake news let's just say it was a little action you know like oh watch movie sometime i feel like an idiot now ah well yeah I'm seeing this video right now. I thought it was real for a second. Yeah. It's a well done fake news thing. That's a very smart one. A lot of people thought that. That was the point.

Mmhmm. Got it. To make it feel real. Yeah. That was the point. You should do that in real life though. You should do that to a door. Just shatter it and make it a reality. No, I think if every door that I touch is going to, uh, I'm going to break it. I think I will go broke. Yeah, true. You gotta pay for every, that or buy pay for dog. Yeah. Or people see you come in and they walk out and they open the door for you. You will, you'll never have to walk through another door in your life.

No, or people just said, just said a fake door. So you're going to keep paying. Yeah. Yeah. What, one of my favorite questions asked fighters, how's camp going? How was how's this camp and it's been a good camp, tough camp, how like you know, in terms of like diet, exercise, everything, how's camp going? It's going well. Okay. I mean, tough can I think a camp has to be tough. So yeah, tough on your body, tough on everything, tough on your mental because like you put yourself in a different condition, get in a very hard discipline and stuff and everything. You're always tough, but it's the part of the game.

It's a process. How fun is it to get to put the weight back on after a weigh-in? Well, I don't have that much weight to put in. You know, like, I don't deal with weight loss so much. So at least for that, I'm happy. Yeah. You're good? You're good? Yeah. I managed to lose the amount of, uh, to lose weight during my

calm because I might have like what maybe, uh, five to 10 pounds, which is not too much and over a couple of weeks of training, you, you're almost there. And if at the end you, you have something is like two pounds, which is nothing. Yeah. Do you have a strategy at the weigh-in for how to get inside your opponent's head? Do you, do you try to play mind games? No, I don't have that because it's not my game, but because we play physical game. So and what happened if the guy is not receptive to your to your game, if he's strong enough for you not to penetrate into his mind, then he keep penetrating into yours.

Because you think you're into somebody mind, why you are not, then in fact, who is in your mind? That's a good point. I also think that you just showing up is more than enough. Uh, just like you physically standing there is more than enough to penetrate into someone's mind. You don't have to say anything. Yeah, I think that happens sometimes, you know, there's, um, you know, like, uh, behind our, um, keyboard, sometimes we can type stuff, keyboard, sometimes we can type stuff, talk a lot of shit. And then you get into a way in sometime with somebody looks look at him and you can see in his eye like what the fuck do I just put myself into? You know, but you're like, bro, it's late. Now it's going down.

Yeah. Yeah. You have, you have to, you have to back your world. Yeah. Your world. All right. So I got a couple last questions. Everyone, again, Battle of Giants, Nganu versus Ferreira goes down Saturday, October 19th at 4 PM Eastern on ESPN Plus pay-per-view and Dazon pay-per-view. Do you want to give us a prediction for the fight? Some prediction? I think the best prediction is me going out with my hand raised.

OK. OK. OK. I like that. Yeah. I like that. And then, yeah, go ahead, PFT. I was going to say, I like that. And then you go ahead. I was gonna say, do you have any plans on going back to boxing after this? Yeah, of

course. That's what I just said earlier. Yeah, you're gonna go back. I think I saw. Yeah, I have some couple fights, some couple books in my. Um alright, so I had one last question. This has been awesome. Francis really appreciate it. Uh row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback dot com. Uh, I gotta ask, is that a question? Yeah, that well, that was the lead up to the question. I gotta, I

gotta ask. I am, I am a huge, huge jackass fan. Uh, what was it like hanging out with those guys and doing a video with them and punching them? Because I just I love Jackass from, you know, 20 years ago. So was that what was it like being with those guys and around those guys? He was not good. Like for real, like when I get there, I thought he was a movie star that you're going to pretend and do something and they might use special effect. So you just say, no, you're gonna hit for real. I'm like, really? They say, yes. So I turn around and I ask my team that,

do we have some waiver here that is signed that I'm not going to be sued from hurting somebody from this, you know? And they say, no, it's good. We always do everything is authentic we don't pretend here and I'm like okay and then yes I have to hit this guy in the nuts and I was so I was so worried I was so stressed that I couldn't hit properly at the first at first and I'm then I'm like, no, bro, this

no real, this is not how you hit. Like you're going to start again. And the guy is there screaming like, Oh, I'm like, so I'm going to do it again. I'm like, yes, for real. I'm like, okay, well, if we're here, let's do it then. It's incredible. I mean, that's those guys are the best. Did they, did they, when you were on set with them, did they try to prank you at all? No. Okay. That was smart of them. That was a good job. Yeah.

That was smart of them to leave you alone because they usually try to fuck with everyone who goes on set. No. I mean, I think that was their way to fuck with me because I didn't know it was real. I was going to do it for real. for real. Yeah, like I put it on 18 ounce gloves. And they say you're gonna hit as hard as you can. That's like what happened if he's a explode? Yeah, like, like, how come? What? How come to at which moment a human being started to think of such a thing? Yeah, it's crazy. I don't think that as a fighter, you've

trained to a point where you feel comfortable just winding up and hitting a guy in the dick, right? No, no, you don't. That's never something that you can practice. Definitely not. Definitely not. Well, Francis, thank you so much. We'll be watching October 19th, 4 PM Eastern, ESPN plus pay per view to zone. Appreciate your time. I know it was a little, the hologram, it's crazy, but it was very cool on our end. You look good. You look great. Okay, thank you guys. Welcome back to another Fire Fest of the Week brought to you by our friends at Morgan & Morgan. You know what really sucks? Having to wake up early on Sunday morning

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Did he do up dog to you? Yeah, you do. Did you get up dog? Farfus sounds like you had a good week. Yeah, not much. He just answered what's up with you. So not much. What's up with you?

You're looking at it. Cool. All right. Not much, what's up with you you're looking at it cool all right Yeah, there is really Basic week This doesn't even this is like the lamest fire festival time. I don't know if I should say it Say it I We had an event at the office last night Did not drink there was an espresso martini cell blue station. I got a regular espresso at like 6 o'clock Got home was tired got into bed

Wide awake wired stayed up till 3 no big deal new so no new Stella blue we got bully beans bully I got the belt bully bully bully beans. Yeah, they worked I was wired and butter cookies back as well, so you just you stayed up till 3 a.m. yeah I just watched Queens game it ah that's a good show had you seen it before yeah I was like oh this was a good show and I watched it the first time and then I forgot the whole premise well embarrassing story this is a fire fest a retroactive fire fest okay first time I watched that show was like the shows really good Avoided the internet kind of and then once it ended I like went to look up like Wikipedia like what a crazy story

Yeah, not true. He thought it's based on true story. Because surely they wouldn't make a TV show about chess unless it was like a real story Yeah, 100% fact, but it is a great great show. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I'm sorry. You didn't sleep. Did you sleep in? No, I got up got up went to the'm sorry you didn't sleep. You sleep in? No, I got up, got up, went to the gym, eight o'clock. Friday. You can get Friday off. No, I'll be here for a little bit. How long?

Like why is this? Why is Friday your last day of golf? It's my last. It's my last plan day. Oh, no, but like I don't, I don't, I don't see like I wouldn't be surprised if it is. I haven't golfed in the last three weeks. Like I don't see like I wouldn't be surprised if it is I haven't golfed in the last Three weeks like I don't know I wouldn't be surprised if this is it Damn, that's how long it takes to break a habit right 20 is it 21 days? Yeah, can you do a little like putting your clubs away for the winter video for us? Yeah, see you again

Yeah, do that for it's been don't put them all away like you never know. Yeah. Well, yeah I'll be me putting them away in the simulator It's gonna be really nice next week right is it I think it is the weekdays That's how fast it took no no no it's only days you can go no I can't oh yeah, Hank it's gonna be 74 Sunday 75 on Monday 70 Tuesday Yeah, you're back. I'm a weekend golfer. You're back. Sunday's a weekend. Yeah.

Not PFT. Are we going to get to the weekend debate again? It's a weekend in in theory. But I'll be here for 14 hours. What about the morning?

Go early. All right. PFT couple of firefests. First is I got the car back. So I guess it's a pre-firefest. Hell yes. It's a pre-firefest. I drove it all the way from the repair shop, which is about an hour and 15 minutes away.

So I think it's probably out of gas right now. So we'll see if it starts up after I have to leave to go. Hour and 15 minutes. Backroads? Yeah, backroads. Did not take the highway on the way back. I learned my lesson. The other Fire Fest also has to deal with last night. So we had a big event at the office

here and our good friend Jersey Jerry got very dressed up. Yes. He put on a suit. He was looking to close some deals. In fact, he came up to me and he said, PFT, what are you looking to do tonight? Are you looking to like, are you looking to close deals for a part of my take? Are you looking to close deals personally? I was like, I'm just gonna talk to people and meet advertisers. And so he asked me that question, I think, for a reason.

But we were hanging out, myself, Chaps, Donnie, and we had just talked to Jersey Jerry. Then we came up with an idea for a little prank under good friend Jersey Jerry. Which was we tried to find an advertiser that was walking around that was cool that was a listener fan of the show fan of Barstool and to get them to go up to Jersey Jerry and tell Jerry that they were from Pfizer. Mm-hmm. And they wanted to do an advertisement with Jersey Jerry. Obviously Jersey Jerry Lib of the year.

Yep. So loves Pfizer. Loves Pfizer and he whenever he sees John Legend or Travis Kelsey on TV just he just turns bright red and starts sweating. He's like fuck these guys. Fuck these guys. Yep So we found a couple people that were into playing along with this they went up to Jerry and they gave Jerry a pitch that they wanted to personally sponsor Jerry for I think $700,000. And Jerry immediately said yes and went running across the room to get a salesperson to close the deal. So that was funny. Jerry got upset about it. I think he blamed you. I think he went over it. He PFT he made me swear on my kid's life that I didn't set him up, which I was happily

I had no idea you guys were doing this. I was aware because Max told me afterwards. So I was like, Yeah, I'll swear on my kid's life. I literally did not set you up. It was someone else. Oh yeah. He was like, swear on your kid's life. Then it came up to me hot. You were the last person he expected. It was he thought when it wasn't, when he knew it wasn't you, he came up to me. He almost like put me, put me in like a chokehold. Yeah. Couldn't reach your neck. So then I come to find out that there actually were two people from Pfizer walking around last night. So I then that screwed me all up because I'm like, what if they were actually trying to do a deal with Jerry, right? And they go up to Jerry and

they try to close deal Jerry's will like flip them off and run away. Yeah. So Jerry's very, very upset at a lot of people. We do have video footage of the conversation happening. Jerry has said that he does not consent to the video. I don't know what that means. It was just on the security camera. OK. But Jerry says he doesn't consent. All right, he doesn't consent.

So I don't know. Are we allowed to put that out? We'll just blur his face out. We can blur Jerry's face out. It could be. Blur out his tattoos. Yeah, blur out Jerry's face. He could be anybody. But yeah, I think we do have security footage of it, but Jerry's upset and there's a chance that we accidentally ruined a possible actual deal. But he would

have done the deal with Fize. Oh, he agreed to it. Yeah, he agreed to it immediately. Yeah. Immediately. You can see- Good to know. In the video, you can see they're just like making pleasantries and then you can see the exact second where dollars and cents get mentioned, okay? So we'll blow out the Jerry's face in the Jerry video. Yeah. Yeah, but it's a little title of Jerry agreeing to a deal with Pfizer Yeah, it could be anybody though. It could be anyone. All right, my fire fest is I've been betrayed by someone in this room This room not this room by someone in this room. This room? Not this room, this room and this studio. Oh, okay. I've been betrayed by someone in this room and this studio.

Pug? Some memes. Nope. That guy is staring me right now. So we have a lot of people working here. I love my job. I love Barstool Sports. Oh.

One of the parts of Barstool Sports, and I understand it, Piazzi and I are gonna turn 40 soon. We have hired some younger people, and part of the younger people crew is a couple younger girls that terrorize me by putting me in their TikToks, and I feel so fucking old, and they say shit like,

hey, are you gonna go to the John Summit concert? And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? But Ella, who I like, is is Indiana grad and she is going to Do we're doing we're doing a show college football show come out to the college. This is great 1030 in the morning on Saturday will be there She's an Indiana grad. She's going to the game and she's trying to get me to go to Kilroy's after the game I explained to go I explained to Ella as clearly as I could that I will be, by the time the ball gets kicked off, I will most likely be back

home in Chicago. We went to Kilroy's. Yeah, Kilroy's great. It was nothing against Kilroy's, but it's everything about the fact that I'm 39 and have three kids and I work nonstop and I don't have time to go to, I would love nothing more. I would love nothing more than to spend an afternoon at Kilroy's getting shit faced. I believe me that would be great. It's also not.

I can't. It's not a place for people in their upper 30s. Because we went there a couple years ago and we went upstairs and I think we were up there for like maybe 10 minutes. It's an awesome bar. I had a blast. Yeah it's a great bar. It's a great place.

Don't get me wrong. I love the people at Kilroy's. We did a t-shirt deal with Kill Roy's 10 years ago for the black. I love Kill Roy's. It has nothing to do with Kill Roy's. It has to do with the fact that I'm old and I can't like if I continue with the yeah, I'm getting back to it. So I told Ella this. I said I'm not going to Kill Roy's. It's just not happening. I appreciate the offer. I love Kill Roy's not going to happen. I then got a text from Ella. She was like, Hey, Max gave me your phone number. Can we set up what deal? Uh, Hey big cat, it's Ella. Max gave me your number headed to IU right now. Since you decided to bring your show to my alma mater on the

grand week return, my grand weekend return. I would like to offer you my kill Roy's tab for my game day table if IU wins. So I have to pay her tab if IU wins. That's right. Oh no. I get the tab. I get the fully expense tab. That's right. Table fully expense. Oh no. On you if IU goes seven and oh what the hell is this deal. So I have to pay her if I you win. So she's making an offer to you her her bet is you have to pay for My drinks if we win either way she shouldn't have my number text me about kill Royce who did that You know who said who's to did it as we were walking out She went up to Hank and Hank was like yeah, just say it was max. I gave you that you fucker

Well, no, she was like that was that's like Max the entire time I did say whatever I don't care. Yeah. All right. Well, I was betrayed I was I mean she she was like basically Trying to figure out a way like asking me like how how can I help get this table paid for and There was a bunch of people just joking around and I was like Oh, just I I actually first said go ask big cat if you can use this card for the weekend Which obviously was a joke and then she was like, oh she think I should text him

I was like, yeah text him tell max to told you Well, I just replied to her cuz I hadn't replied to her. I said I respectfully decline. Thank you for the consideration. I These girls just terrorize me cuz they're just young and they just know shit that I don't know and they just say words to me that I don't know was the question they asked you are you gonna go see John summit is that like a is that he's that John Simon next he's next up DJ I know he's already now yeah yeah yeah I was there because when I heard that I thought is John summit is that code for like me in the bathroom PFT our conversation was this. This is how

our conversation went. They said, are you going to go see John summit this weekend? I said, who? And he said, he's the best DJ in the world. And I said, what happened to Diplo? And then he laughed at my face. Yes, that's tough. That's exactly how it went out. What about Shaq? She acts a good DJ. Yeah. So thank you, Hank. Yeah. I mean, you're like the, the the the patriarch of this office. I think it's good for employees to have your number. That's that's that's fair. Yeah. That's what I needed. Good point. I needed that. She's going to FaceTime me from Kilroy's and that's going to be so awesome. I'm going to really enjoy that. And I it's

nothing against Ella. She's sounds like you're mad. No she's no you. She's 20. She's 23 years old. She should be doing exactly. She should be going to IU. She be going to kill. Where I was having the time of her life. She's done nothing wrong. You have enabled it. My problem is there was no downside to this bet. This wasn't even a bet. It was just like, Hey, if we win, you're paying. Yeah. And probably if I in their seven point favorite, what if they lose? Yeah. I got, I don't know. Fired so anxious. She probably woke up so anxious waiting for a text and oh, yeah, she got you She's definitely freaking out about that text. Yeah

And oh I'm gonna say thank I respectfully pass thank you for your consideration and I'm fired max for giving my number away What is she gonna say she gonna say she's gonna she's gonna snitch or is it test for her? That is a good test. Yeah. What if she tells the truth we pay for the bar tab. This will be a good test. We'll see.

Yeah, then she's fired. Yeah. Okay. She's not fired. She does a good job. And Hannah terrorized me as well. But I got her back because chaps does his videos and she didn't know where France was. Neither did Max.

I was there. Yeah, that's true. I got to watch it live those great she didn't know where France was. Neither did Max. He was there. Yeah, that's true. I got to watch it live though. It was great. Max, you don't know where France is? Max, you were in France. I know and people keep saying that to me. Cause when you were on that live stream,

everybody was like, I see Paris, I see France. Oh, so funny. I'm just gonna start using. I had multiple underwear companies coming up to me last night. Oh, I love. Both of them. I'm gonna start weaponizing Chaps, that's what I'll do. So I had multiple underwear companies coming up to me last night I'm gonna start I'm gonna start weaponizing chaps That's what I'll do because every time they put me in a tick-tock and I don't understand a trend I'm just gonna be like chaps go up and ask him like what color is the Sun and that will be funny for me

So I got I got my ways. Yeah, I'm dumb. I'm scared. I'm scared of the use of America. That shouldn't be a surprise Max you got a fire fest Under we're not talking about your underwear company underwear surprise. Max you got a FireFest? Underwear companies? Yeah but we don't have to talk about that. Underwear? Underwear companies? No I almost got evicted but it's fine. What? I moved into a new place, I've had auto pay, I never actually.

What? You had auto pay? I've had auto pay in my last two apartments so I don't really think about it and then I had to prorate it so they said you can't set up auto pay until your next thing. So how many months late were you? No I was I was like five days and then someone I wasn't even home someone apparently my girlfriend said that someone came knocking on the door like really like and then just threw a piece of paper at her and just said from your landlord.

Oh sure. And it was Addiction notice. But this is a situation like Steven Che when he bought, he got a new car and he thought he set up auto pay, but he just paid one time for automobile pay. No, this was me just like forgetting that I wasn't on auto pay anymore. But now I'm on a, I just like she, my girlfriend texts me. She's like, you have to pay right now. I just got this pain Pay in an hour. What's up with the jacket today?

You look good. Everyone keeps asking me this. I mean, that's, but you know what, we were saying this the other day. This is like the biggest fashion police building in the world. No, the culture we've created at Barstool Sports, which I welcome, is that if you try to better yourself even a little bit, you get shamed to hell. Mm-hmm But that's how it should I'm gonna start we all need to stay exactly where we are now I'm wearing bettering This is the only place in the world where you can show up to work wearing a t-shirt and jeans and everyone be like

Whoa, you have a date tonight, dude. Yeah, what are you doing has a button down? I'm like who died? Last week I came and I wore a polo shirt and then I was wearing like just jeans and Mad Dog was like look at you Yeah, that's that's the meanest look at you I've ever gotten I wore a flannel the other day and KB was like why are you trying so hard? Yeah, if I have a button Jerry said that exact that exact same thing to me. I love it. Why are you trying? It's as toxic of a culture as you can get I'm gonna look nice if I'm, tomorrow I might. No.

But it's actually, the nice part about it is equal opportunity. Cause anyone who tries to wear anything nice gets shamed instantly across the board. We should do a dress up nice week. Built for comfort, not for speed. Yeah. Yeah. I had to wear jeans yesterday. It sucked.

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