Pardon My Take - LSU Head Football Coach Ed Orgeron

Episode Date: May 21, 2018

Grit Week is here and we're live from an Georgia RV Park. We talk about what we have planned for the week, what happened to Vanny Woodhead and how much we love Coach O (2:20 - 6:21). NBA Playoffs, the Rockets are dead again, Steph is healthy, and James Harden is back on his designer drugs (allegedly) (6:21 - 9:33). The Cavs blew out the Celtics and JR Smith is the litmus test for how this series is going (9:33 - 13:30). We're not worried about the Caps so don't even ask (13:30 - 17:37). Who's Back of the week including Love because two strangers in England got married (17:37 - 28:21). LSU Football Coach Ed Orgeron joins the show to talk about Grit, his career as a Coach, the time he recruited even though he didn't have a job, and when he put a worm in his mouth to motivate his team (28:21 - 66:46). Segments include As a White Guy Stephen A Smith said the N word on air. Respect the Biz Us for calling into Brad Stevens press conference, PR 101 for Terrance Williams crashing his Lambo and running away, and Problematic did Lebron diss a guy in a MAGA hat during Game 3 but more importantly who really cares? You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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I love that. It's a tradition unlike any other. It's the exact opposite of the master's music. It doesn't put you to sleep. It's like methamphetamines for your ears. So to set the scene for you, we are in an RV in Athens, Georgia. Now you might be saying to yourself, where's Vanny Woodhead? That's a good question.

That's a good question. Yeah, good question. You can actually watch the video, our new Cribs video of our RV. Many enough, we were like, hey, why don't we, we don't want to take Vanny Woodhead because it's a really long drive. Let's go pretend that Vanny Woodhead doesn't start and then we went up to where Vanny Woodhead is parked in Yonkers, New York. And guess what?

Vanny Woodhead actually doesn't start. It is fully broken. So credit to us for being honest with you guys. I don't know what to do with it. Despite our best efforts to lie to you. We had a problem. Well, and let's be honest, we did try, the thought occurred to us like we should take Vanny.

We really wanted to take Vanny on this trip. But we just, well, first of all, it still hasn't been put back together from the TV show that shall not be named that we filmed inside of Vanny. So there are seats that are just like loose, not secured down. And there's some other issues. Second, it's broken. Second, it's broken. Third, I, the insurance company is like, hey, you don't have your, your van insured

anymore. What's up, man? And I've been getting that email for like three months straight. You can just ignore that one. Yeah, absolutely. Whatever. I don't know. But we are in Georgia.

We're in the South for Grit Week. We have Coach Oh, maybe, I'm not going to say it's my favorite interview I've done, but it's pretty high up there. Might be on the Mount Rush. He was great. And I think, I think we're, his adopted sons now, I think he has legal custodianship of us. Like the second you heard Coach Oh talk, he was coming around the corner, he was still

in the hallway. We were in the room that we're doing the interview and we just hear, where the bull is that? Yeah. And I was immediately like, I love this man. Right. And I say that there are football guys and we're football guys, guys. I think we create a new designation for Coach Oh as the alpha, as the pinnacle football guy.

He's a guys football guy. Yes. Absolutely. He, like, he just like injects adrenaline into you, just being around him makes you like sit up in your chair and happier person. I actually had to catch myself because I was doing the Chris Farley at the beginning of the interview. I stopped myself.

I just went, Oh, that's so awesome. And just laughed after he told the story. I was like, God damn it, big cat, like stop fanboying for one second. We like try to impress Coach Oh. So he's amazing. It was amazing. We did it. Actually, it was the hardest thing we've ever done.

We had to keep it under wraps for two weeks because Coach Oh's schedule didn't work out perfectly with grit week, but we're like, we have to get them on grit week. So we flew down Sean Payton, then we did Coach Oh under wraps. And now we are in. So did like a tour of the LSU facility. Yes. There's going to be a video coming out of that. Yes.

Yes. Which is awesome. Like we, I love LSU. Yeah. I, you know, you're supposed to be objective as a journalist. Guess what? No. Fuck that.

No, absolutely. Fuck that. We are biased journalists. Go Tigers. Go Tigers. And then we have, so we're in Athens, Georgia. We have Tom Kreen. We're going to Atlanta.

We're going to maybe interview a certain football coach, former football coach that drank paint as a child. We're then going to Jacksonville and we're going to stay with a certain boat and possibly interview another head coach down there. So who could that be? Who could that be? Grit week is often running and we are very excited. We need a name for the RV though.

So submit your ideas. Mine was Trevor Arviza. That's pretty good. Although, although he's about to be gone. Yeah, that's a good segue. Yeah, let's talk about it to the Rockets. Boy, the Rockets really looks like a bag of assholes out there. Didn't they?

I don't understand. It looks like a clown car filled with pubic hair. I don't understand James Harden. I don't understand James Harden. I don't understand how this is supposed to be different. And then he goes to another playoffs and looks like he's taking some weird designer drug the entire playoff. His defense was so great today.

So bad against Sean Livingston. I got the man with one knee. Yeah. Just blew past him and then he became a meme. Yeah. Steph Curry did the same thing to him. And Chris Paul forgot how to play basketball. Good to see that Steph Curry is healthy by the way.

Yes, fully healthy. Had 35 points. Could relapse though. Yeah. The Warriors, the Warriors are like, I get so frustrated because part of me is like, oh man, when they start playing basketball, well, it is really like you're never going to see a team play basketball as a team better than that. But the fact that they even lost game to the way they did when they can, they just toy

with teams like they get bored. They toy with teams and they're like, wait, no, it's James Harden. And he looks like he's playing in quicksand. So why don't we just attack him all game and he'll suck. Yeah. And Draymond had, what, like 17 rebounds? Draymond just like eating him alive on defense too. You pointed out earlier when we were watching that this series has perhaps the weirdest

bodies of any series. Because Eric Gordon, there was a shot of Eric Gordon, a zoom in shot of Eric Gordon where he had a full on gut. And he has like the under armpit fat that I have, that most fat guys have. And that's why you can't wear a jersey. You got to wear like the spandex shirt or the shooting sleeve. Yeah, right. But yeah, Eric Gordon, fat, Chris Paul, fat face.

Yeah. He's turned into a fat face guy. Yeah. PJ Tucker looks like. Don't know. Yeah. He's like a fire hydrant mated with a bulldog. Yeah.

James, James Harden has never been in full peak shape. No. Even the Warriors, like the Warriors don't have fat bodies. Kevin Durant's got that body where he can't even. Skinny. Press 135 pounds. Steph Curry, skinny as hell. Yeah.

Draymond. Is he fat? Is he chubby? Is he in shape? I don't know. You can't tell. The fact that these are the two best teams in the NBA, playing each other in the Western Conference Finals.

And if you had them all take off of their shirts, you'd be like, I don't know. Are these guys peak athletes? That. And it's also got probably the weirdest facial hair. Yes. Of any series, too. Yes.

Absolutely. And so as a podcast with bad bodies and strange facial hair, we're allowed to say these things. This is our series. It's all out of love. This is our series. Or it's like a, it's like an obscure Reddit sub thread. Yeah.

Do you see, by the way, Charles Barkley still wants to fight Draymond Green. Yeah. He started up again. So I don't know what Charles Barkley, I mean, it's, I guess it's a good headline grab is, you know, kind of someone in the biz like you got to do that when you can.

Charles Barkley would get his ass kicked so bad by Draymond. So bad. So bad. He's not like so bad. I think that's why he's having fun with it. And I think there's obviously like a playfulness to it. But I don't think I still want to say it. I don't think Draymond understands playfulness though.

No, no, absolutely not. The East. Yeah. So Hank, the panic meter, right? You said the Celts were going to win game three. If I was up to nothing in a series and then got smoked by the other team, I would be panicking. What about you?

Yeah. Remember when I told you that roleplayers play better at home and then every single Cavalier got into double, double digits. It's good thing the Celtics have home court advantage then. Yeah. But do you want to face LeBron in a game seven? Nope.

That would that would not be fun. So I, I mean, I fully expect the Cavs to win game four as well. I think the series is going to go seven because I do really think that like Kyle Korver and JR Smith and Tristan Thompson, they just need to be. Well, not Tristan Thompson. He doesn't sleep in his own bed ever, but the rest of them

need to sleep in their own bed and then they can make shots. That's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. I think that the Celtics went into that game thinking that this Cavs team was soft and thinking that they had so much momentum, they were going to be able to stop him out at home. And since that illusion got torn away from you could see it

on like Terry's face at the end of game three. He was like, fuck. Like we totally underestimated this team and we're in for a world of hurt. It's going to be alongside. I still maintain the Cavs or the Celtics are a better team and Brad Stevens is, I mean, it's not even close. Brad Stevens is so much better of a coach than LeBron, but at

the end of the day, LeBron, like you don't want to get into game seven against LeBron. Is Danny Angel, but Danny Angel is a better GM than LeBron. Yes. So it kind of balances out. No, they're both. No, Brad Stevens and Danny Angel are better than LeBron coach and GM.

Yeah. Yes. By far. LeBron 2020. Yes. Um, and all you could, you could just not watch like if you didn't watch game three, but you went on Twitter and you saw JR Smith doing his swagger dance.

You just know like that's, that's basically sums it up. Is JR Smith hitting his threes or not? If he is, the Cavs are going to win. If he's not, the Celtics are going to win. It's all, it's, it's like, there's obviously a lot more moving parts than that, but it really does kind of boil down to that. Yes. No, I think you're a hundred percent right.

And I would say that, uh, if I'm a betting man, I'm putting money on the Cavs for the series now. I'm not there yet, but I do think like I said, I think it's going to be a three game series with the Celtics home court advantage. I think game four is going to be a fight, but I also thought they're going to win game three and all the other series in this wasn't in the finals are just blah.

God, I really hope it's the Cavs because I mean, let's be real. The Celtics aren't going to be able to beat the Warriors. No one's beating the Warriors, but the LeBron can't beat the Warriors, but he'll, he'll get a couple games. I'll tell you what. And we'll get a tally on that, uh, finals loss, but that's not going to happen. I'll tell you what.

If the, if the Warriors and the Cavs play, I'm going to put all my money on Warriors to win in five. Exactly. Okay. Cause I feel like that is, that's exactly what's going to LeBron win one game, game three or four. And then that will be it. Just like the sweeps.

Yeah. Um, I have a question. It's a Seeky question. Ooh. You ready for it? Yeah. $10 off. You put in promo code take.

Are you sure you're ready for it? Yeah. Hit me. How worried are you? Okay. All right. Well, I knew that I knew the line of question was going to come up.

So lightning have won three straight. Okay. Listen, three straight. Listen, after PFT said, maybe a gentleman's sweet. We had, we had the worried, I'm not worried meter tally up to what, like 15 or 16. Yeah. Cause we're not worried.

I'm actually not worried going into game six. I'm serious. Here's why. Here's why I'm not worried. Okay. Because, uh, we dominated the second two periods of the game. Mm hmm.

We hit the pipe several times. We missed goals. So on your inches on aggregate periods, if hitting the, if hitting the pipe was worth two points, it would have been a blowout on aggregate periods. The caps one game, five, two to one, two to one game five, even though you didn't even, even, I don't even think that works with the goals.

No, because they scored one goal in the first, like 30 seconds of the second period. So if you, if you take the first 20 and a half minutes of the game out of it, I'm feeling what you're saying. So we won technically like 1.95 to one. Got it. So, um, on aggregate, you're right. Like we were a better team.

We had some momentum going into, into this next game. And also I'm not worried because it is our destiny to win this game and then go to a game seven and then lose that in heart breaking fashion. Yes. So I'm not, I'm actually not worried. You didn't mention the part that we, if they go to game seven, we are going to be there in Tampa.

Absolutely. I would not be in Tampa. I would not miss a chance to get my heart broken by the caps again. Third leg Greg, I'm coming for that ass. So we will be there and, and what's getting lost and all this, you know, you guys are like trolling me a little bit, but here's the thing.

We have more riding on this. We have so much riding on this. We already won the Stanley Cup. Okay. True. You, you, you already won the Stanley Cup. We beat the Penguins. We won our Stanley Cup.

So now it's, now it's time to talk like, is this a dynasty? Yeah, true. If we win another Stanley, the only team to win two Stanley Cups in the same month. True. True. Think about that. Also, wouldn't you feel bad beating Vegas anyway?

Yeah. By the way, shout out to Vegas for, for shocking the world. Vegas owes me. I would not feel bad beating it. Maybe we'll be even this time, but Vegas is a new, uh, Leichester city. Well, you saw my who's back. Oh shit.

It was going to be a Leichester city. Fuck. Sorry. Wait, sorry. We mispronounced it. Leichester city. Yeah. Leichester city.

But this is an elimination game and Tom Wilson is probably going to take that literally. Oh, so you think it's a must win? Oh, no, it's a can't lose. Okay. For, I would say for the Celtics, it's a must win. Yes. For the Caps, it's a can't lose.

Um, so to answer your question, I'm not worried. I'm not worried either. I'm not worried going, although I'm, I'm pretty worried. I mean, to be honest, I've watched these games. You're worried? Yes. They've, uh, not the Caps. I feel like I'm riding in the car.

Get him off the bed. I think I'm riding in the car with no wheels on it. Nope. The wheels are just falling off. Listen, if you knew how the Caps fight back, like we always do this. Right. We do. This is classic Caps.

Although I did see a hilarious stat that was like the Caps after going up to nothing in a series. Yes. They're three and five in those series. 13 and 43 in games, I think. Yes. And so they have a winning percentage of like a 0.35 and, uh, the second lowest team has a winning percentage of like 0.71.

So we're, we're like more than twice as bad as, uh, the second worst team after going up. Backdoor sweep would be tough. Backdoor sweep. Really tough. Sweeping off the back porch. Uh-huh. But they're not worried.

So it doesn't matter. We're not worried. Ovi will save us, right? Ovi's play great. He does that, right? He plays great. He saves us. Yes.

Okay. All right. Shout out to the Knights, by the way. Yeah. Good job. Also, Taffer. You made it to the Stanley Cup. I'm coming for that ass.

Taffer challenged me to a $10,000 bet if the caps play the Knights in the, uh, Stanley Cup. Taffer? You're going to save us? Well, what I'm thinking about doing is I'm thinking about offering up my stake in the breakers. Mmm, which we haven't paid for. So Taffer, so Taffer would become an owner of the breakers with you guys,

which would be great content. Yeah. Um, and then if, if, uh, if the caps beat them, then I get like, we, oh, 10,000 bucks. We should, we should bet him $10,000 and Jose can say goes new Bitcoin. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah.

Jose can say coin. I think we're going to jail for that one too. So we can, we came close to Steven Seagal. So we got out right in time. I feel like this one we're going to get in trouble for. You can't be accused of like SEC fraud. If you're a well-known fraud already. True.

True. Well, no, but Steven Seagal is definitely in trouble. He's definitely in trouble. He was definitely also a fraud. Okay. All right. We'll, we'll, we'll cross that. Hot fraud.

Yeah. The main point here is we're not worried. No. Uh, caps versus nights going to be great. We're going to go to Vegas. It will be awesome. We're going to cash our ticket slash hedge our way out of it. Um, and we're excited.

That would actually be unreal. If the caps beat Vegas in Vegas, we can go with our ticket, cash our ticket. It's all, it's almost setting up too perfectly. It's, and we're going to pay for game seven. What sucks is tomorrow night or tonight. What are you here for us? Caps? Oh yeah.

What a year. Our year. It's our year. Uh, tonight, as you're listening to this on Monday, uh, we have an interview scheduled during the caps game. So no spoilers. I'm not even going to be able to watch most of the game. Yeah.

First hour of the game. Thoughts and spoilers. Thoughts and prayers to me. No one tweet anything. No, please save for, uh, like 9 30. Everyone DVR it or start the game as a collective Twitter verse. My tweets at 9 30. My tweet was anyone who ever says threes.

God damn it. All right. Let's do it. Who's back? Uh, Hank, you start my who's back. The week is Johnny men's out. Johnny football. Yes.

As first reported by barcel sports. Uh, he's coming back. He signed with the CFL. He's going to the Canadian, uh, Hamilton tiger cats. Hmm. So okay. Johnny's back. He said he's not even guaranteed a starting role, but he said he's going

to fight and he's going to battle for it. Think he's in it for the long haul. I love it. Hamilton's big this time of year too. Like Hamilton's all the rage. Yes. Take it very expensive. He wraps, but it's also musical.

Like who would have thought of that? Well, he's, wait, he's probably my favorite president. Leal. Oh, Hamilton, Franklin or Hamilton toss up. Yeah. Don't know. I always go back and forth between those two. What he's also on a podcast.

Yes. He has a podcast also on barcel sports comeback season with Casey Smith. Download it. Uh, it's going to be a college football podcast where he'll be chronicling his time doing the comeback too. Right. Yeah. With tiger, tiger, Hamilton, Hamilton, Hamilton tiger cats.

I was close. Uh, Hank, quick question. Where is Hamilton located in Canada? North. Uh, west of Ontario. It's not. I like that. That was a good answer.

West of Ontario. It's east of Toronto. It's actually in Ontario. Oh, so we're in the province of Ontario. And is it south of Toronto? It's southwest of Toronto. So it's actually, so we got it. It's closer to Buffalo than Toronto is.

So it's in between Toronto and Buffalo. So it's like the bills of Canada. Love it. Bill's mafia. Did Bon Jovi try to buy him? Yes. Okay. Then we're good.

Uh, who's your, who's your, who's your, who's back? Well, I had Lee Chester city. Yeah, my bad. Uh, being back because, uh, Vegas is going to the Stanley Cup and everybody's talking about what a long shot they were. Ravel loves it. Only 500 to one. Yeah.

Lee Chester city was 5,000 to one. So that's, let's, let's show some respect. Ravel loves, Ravel loves to tweet the like really long shot bets that we all wish we had made because he's such a fucking nark loser. Also back is America. Who? America's back this week because we finally infiltrated the royal family. Yes.

We had, uh, what, what Megan Markle was her name. She got married to whatever the, the William was. Harry or Harry, Harry. You can remember it because Harry is the one that's not bald. Yo, I, so I saw a couple of highlights. That guy, William, that is the worst bald guy I've ever seen. You got a big, you're a fucking prince, man. Yeah.

How do you go? How do you show up with that hair? Hey, shout out. Black Laro. Shout out William. Uh, use promo code take at four hymns. Yeah. And you can try some hair loss for just five bucks.

He, his, his hair took my breath away. That's how bad it is. If you're going that bald, you have to make sure you get your portrait done to be on money like before you get to that spot. But that's, that's his hair is so bad. I wouldn't trade lives with him. I would not trade lives with the Prince, Prince William. William?

Yeah, but you could just pick it. Yeah, but. Okay. Yeah, I would trade lives with him. And then my first act as Prince would besides just like being rich and laying out by the pool and being drunk for like 10 days. Yeah. Would be to pick my head.

But also why? Yeah. Why can't he get hair transplant? You're the fucking Prince. Right. I think you have prima nocta on anybody inside the United Kingdom. You can just take their hair or do a toupee. You're the Prince.

No one will say anything about your toupee. Like that's the beauty of being rich and powerful. No one's going to be like, Hey man, that's a terrible toupee. They're just going to bow down. You bow to the Prince. Yes, you bow. Yeah. So you bow to the Prince.

What if you just showed up one day like Brian Ehrlacher with a full head of hair? You're not thinking about saying anything? It's better than what he's got going right now. It was shockingly bad. So shout out America for cucking the entire nation of Great Britain. Mm-hmm. That means like, do we own Scotland? We own a part of it now, right?

Yeah, there's a county that we own. She's Princess of like. Sussex. Nottingham. No, Sussex. Sussex. I saw that. Yep.

Sussex. So that's as much. I mean, that's, I'll tell you what. That's us. We got a couple facts right on that one. Also shout out to Megan Markle's nephew who capitalized on the event by selling a weed strand called Markle Sparkle. Fuck yes.

All right. I love it. That's America, man. You'd like that's, ah man. That's the. That royal family's going to be so pissy later in. That's being like having a tweet that goes viral and be like, check out my SoundCloud. Yeah.

Dude, that is great. Yeah, just reply to it. Yeah. While you guys are here. Yeah. I'm a rapper too. I love it. I love it.

Also who's back in the week is Christian Pulisic. Oh, nice. And that was talking soccer. So he's going to be playing in a friendly and then ESPN. They put out, they put out their hypothetical starting 11 for what the United States starting 11 would look like if we were in the World Cup. And I did not know this, but. Was LeBron on it?

LeBron wasn't. He hasn't been training hard enough. Okay. But at right midfield was a guy named Ariella. Oh, I mean, man. Nips. The tweets that would have happened. Puffy.

Yeah. Very puffy. Oh, nice. Like a puffy sticks out. Oh, right. All right. Doesn't play well in the cold. Yeah.

Who's back is kind of similar to the British Royal Wedding or whatever you called it. Well, the fact that two really wedding, the two, two billion people watched it is insane because it kind of hurts my pride as an American when you like, yeah, Super Bowl is the fucking biggest thing in the world, but instead it's these two people getting married. But either way, love is back. And I saw a lot of people tweeting like, Oh my God. Did you see Harry like, like rub her hand with his thumb and all this shit? Like, Oh, they love each other.

I can't wait for them to get divorced. It's going to be awesome. I actually, I hope she takes them for all of Sussex. Do you, do you, you guys, I love when celebrities get divorced and everyone like acts heartbroken on Twitter. Like how could this ever happen? They look so perfect like Chris Pratt and his wife. Well, dude, that one actually affected me.

Who's your number one that you would love to see get divorced just to see the Twitter meltdown because I have one very much in mind. Uh, okay, there's a clear winner. Chrissy Teigen and John Legend. Yes. Yeah. It would be incredible. It's like, sometimes I wait, I sit up at night being like, if they got divorced, I

would, I would, I think I'd stay up for a week straight, like on a meth binge, just looking at Twitter and way and getting high off them. Uh, Obama, the Obama's. Oh, that's a good one. Obama's got divorced. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yup.

Hank, you got me? You know, it would probably happen if those two couples got divorced, they would just wife swap. Yes. Yeah, probably. Yeah. We would end up like that. And that would be cool too.

Yeah, that would also be cool. And then they, and then I would root for two more divorces. Yeah, two. Yeah. She's not really as, as like in the public as these other people, but DJ Cowd and his wife get a divorce would be funny. Well, if she was like, if she was just publicly, I want my pussy at some point. Yeah.

Yeah. That's good. Um, and also part of my who's back is people being dumb online. So if you saw on Twitter for the, uh, royal wedding, there was this like tweet going around where it was like, pick your royal name. It's your grandparents' name and your, uh, first dog, first pets name and the street you lived in when you grew up. That's too much.

It literally is like every security question to everything online and people were just tweeting it out. There's some guy like said that, uh, I don't have his Twitter. He's like, Hey, you guys realize that you're being so dumb right now and that you're giving every single like hacker all your security questions and people are just willingly doing it. It's just the dumbest thing ever. I love it.

And I need more people to just hand over their passwords just because they want to be a fucking British night. Your love hand up. I didn't think about that. I didn't need it until someone said it. Yeah, exactly. Like some guy who was like, Hey, you idiots, stop doing this because it's basically handing over every screen.

And then my last who's back is Riley Currie. I don't know if you saw they shot, they, they went to her during the game. I'm sorry. She's back. She's going to be at a press conference. And she's, I'll tell you what, she was running her little mouth. She's getting a little older. So she probably got a little more sass.

She's got more vocab. She's going to start talking back to the media and I'm here for it. My problem with Riley is, is she's always the first one to show up after a big win and she never steps to the podium and faces the music after a loss. Well, no, sometimes she does, but then she'll hide behind a curtain. Yeah. Yeah. Like a fucking coward.

Like a fraud. Like someone get like fired for saying that about Brady's. Oh no, that's not. Yeah. Well, that was, that was, he actually went after, we're just saying Riley Currie, just you know, face the media sometimes after a loss. Yes. I think, I think what we're saying is very fair.

Very fair. Yeah. Cause face the music. Let, let, let Brian Winhorse ask you how the game went. All right. Let's get to it. Let's do it. Cocho.

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This is one of the most exciting guests that I've ever introduced. It is Coach Ed Ojeron, Coach O at Louisiana State University Head Football Coach. So it is grit week. Let's start there. We need you to define grit for us. What does grit mean to you? You don't stay at relentless pursuit of what you're after, having to focus on a goal. You know when something's going to happen, you're going to face adversity.

We say around here, you got to block out the noise. Don't listen to the people outside. Let's focus in on a task in hand and get it done. Yeah. And so I was reading up and I was listening to some things about your childhood and in LaRose, Louisiana. And it sounds like that's a gritty, gritty town, 7300 people, a lot of people who work, you know, either blue collar jobs or fishing.

What was, how did you get molded in that gritty background in LaRose? And my parents always worked. Every day my mom would get up at four o'clock in the morning, we'd cook breakfast, clean the house, go to work all day, had three meals on the table, same with my father. And then in the summer, they would put me in a shrimp shed, shoveling shrimp, and that was pretty. But I learned it. I learned the responsibility, I learned accountability, and it made me a better person.

And then you obviously played high school football in that town. What were you like as a football player? You know what? Salt LaFouce meant a lot to me. I always wanted to be a football player at Salt LaFouce. I won the state championship in 1977. I was an all state player. I was a blue chip player.

I was a good player. I was a great player, a good teammate. What would your high school coach have said about you as a player? Tough, gritty. All right. Did you talk trash? You know what? I didn't.

Not that much. I was young. I was kind of a shy guy, believe it or not. I do not believe that. That is such a lie. That's such a lie. When did you come out of your shell? In college.

When I came out of my shell a little bit and became dead, I was around, everybody knows that. Okay. So would you have recruited yourself as a college football coach? If you saw young Ed Osheron playing in high school, you would have? No question. I like the confidence there. So you went to LSU for two weeks and then you went back home.

What happened there? In reality, I got homesick. I had never been away from home. They moved me from defense to offense. It was probably a good move in their part. I was probably a better offensive lineman, but I wanted to play defense. I went home. My dad put me working at LaFouce Telephone Company the next day on the side of the road,

shoveling ditches. There's another story about grit and people will pass and say and select names about me and my dad just said dig and I spent about three months there. Bobby A. Barr called me. He said, do you want to come to Northwestern State? I said, hell yeah. That's great. So people kind of looking at you as almost a failure motivated you there?

Yeah. You signed with LSU. You're at the top of the heap here. And then the next day you're not. And it was a disappointment. It was a disappointment for everybody in my family, but I promised my mother I would graduate from college and I did it. Yeah.

Did you grow up an LSU fan? Yes, I did. I grew up LSU. I watched around the estate of my cousin LSU's life here. You watch it every, every Saturday night if you don't sit on Saturday night replays on Sunday morning. Did you used to come to Death Valley when you were a kid or? Yeah.

At the first time, no, you know, Death Valley was for rich people. We couldn't afford that. And the only, the first time I got a ticket, I was a recruit. I came to the rice game. We, LSU beat rice 77, nothing. That's pretty nice. That sounds about right for rice. That's pretty nice.

But that, that story about, you know, going to LSU for two weeks, homesick and then digging ditches basically right away. That's kind of a theme throughout your life. You've had these, these big moments, maybe a little setback you learn from it and get a lot better. And you end up going to Northwestern State University and become, you know, no great player there. Yes.

Adversity and learning how to face adversity, but I had great parents that pushed me. You know, my dad always told me I had to do everything twice. Yeah. You know, I know, and I tell my players, you're going to make mistakes, but don't do it again. Yeah. So, so you go from there and you go right into coaching. Was it a second, was there ever a second thought of like, I'm going to go get a regular job sitting behind a desk or was football it for you?

Never. I went try out the Memphis showboats. I didn't make the team. I had to borrow my friend's car. I called my dad on the way back. I said, I'm a star coach and I went to the coach the next day. He said, I don't have much. I moved up.

I took a cot out of the dormitory and I moved it into the visitors dressing room and I worked there for free for a year. Wow. That's amazing. Love it. Love it. And so it took a year for them to realize, okay, maybe we should give them a couple of nickels here and there.

Well, no, actually, they had a graduate assistant job come on open and they picked someone else. So I left with my coach Bill Johnson. I went to McNeese State as a graduate assistant and I worked in the Recreation Complex from five to nine to make my money. And then from there where you started your whole path, at what point did you go from what was the step before Miami? I was at Arkansas. I was an assistant strength coach at Arkansas.

I was making a whopping $25 every two weeks, man, but I tell you what, man, I had a room in the dormitory. It was the first time in my life I saw white gravy. I didn't know what that was. It's pretty good though. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's like liquid grips. Yeah, that's right.

So you were an assistant strength coach. That sounds like the most fun job in the world because you just basically get to run your players through the ring without having to worry about any of the actual consequences. I loved it. You know, one of my favorite players was a guy named Steve Jones. I used to work him out every Thursday and they nicknamed me Hips Let In and obviously Steve's something. I didn't know at the time Steve was Jerry Jones' son and Steve and I have remained great friends

ever since. Oh, that's fantastic. I mean, Jerry Jones' son at the University of Arkansas, but you didn't know that that was the most famous alumni's son. No, and I trained him very hard. You can ask him. He had bullets of sweat coming out of his head every Thursday morning. And then next time you saw him, he was wiping his dad's glasses off in the box in Cowboy

Stadium. So Miami, I feel like was, and you can tell me if I'm wrong, was the first time where you started to like blossom as a coach, as a recruiter and really get part of a program that won a couple of national championships? Yeah, it was an eye-opening experience for me to work on the Jimmy Johnson day once that, you know, went down there and the first day I went out on the field, I said, this is the way you coach. And I caught on to that method very fast.

It was aggressive, it was tough, mean, nasty. And I loved the coach of Miami and I loved working on the Jimmy Johnson. Jimmy Johnson left to go to Cowboys. Dennis Erickson came along. He gave me my first shot. He saw my ability to coach, to coach the 4-3 defense, me and Tommy Tubblebill. The first year of me being an assistant coach, we won the national championship. We're coaching Cortena Skinny and Russell Maryland.

Pretty good deal. So you coached a lot of good players while you were there. It's kind of back in Miami's heyday, Warren Sapp, The Rock. Who was the best player that you coached? No, it's hard to, it's hard to separate Cortena Skinny, Russell Maryland and Warren Sapp in college. Those were the three best players and obviously Cortena and Russell became Hall of Famers. I mean Cortena and Warren became Hall of Famers.

Right. They were all three great players. When you were coaching The Rock, did it ever occur to you, hey, one day this guy might be president? Never. You know, but I will say to you, he was a great young man. His nickname was Dewey and he worked very hard and he's a quiet guy, but he did have a plan.

I'm so proud of him. He's a great young man. Do you still keep in touch with him at all? You know what? He'll hit me on the Twitter every once in a while. I talked to his agent once or twice. Every time something big happens in my life, he'll tweak the support and I really appreciate that.

How'd you recruit him? How'd that go? Well, let me say this to you. Bob Corbinals, who passed away, recruited him and he went up to Pennsylvania to get him so Bob was the full-time defensive line and I was the assistant defensive line coach. So Bob Corbinals is the guy that recruited him. But obviously, I can remember one day, he didn't have a good practice and I was kind of vocal back then and I said, you know what, do you ought to go be a wrestler.

He took good advice. There you go. So you created The Rock. Yeah, you created The Rock. Would you endorse The Rock for president if you're in? No question. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Absolutely. I have to. The endorsement. I want to jump back real quick because I think we skipped a very important step when we're talking about, you know, you're going through high school, college, becoming a coach. It's very obvious to anybody that's ever met you that you absolutely love football. That's all you think about. At what point in your life did you realize that you were in love with football?

I was six years old and I'd go with my uncle's house, Uncle Joe, and my nanny would cook toast bread and I'd eat about a whole loaf back then. Big old boy. And we would watch USC play. My uncle Joe loved USC and I watched OJ run. I think it was 1967 and I'd come home. I told my daddy, I said, I'm going to coach at USC one day when I was six years old. That was one of my goals.

Wow. That's it. What's your favorite, what's your favorite food? You know, it's hard to, it's hard to mention my favorite one. I've got about a hundred of them because I love food, obviously, but I like turnips stew with pork in it, over rice. Okay. That might be one of my favorite things with fried veal cutlets.

Oh, okay. I don't think I've ever had turnips stew. Yeah. How much jambalaya do you eat a week? You know what? I've got to watch it because my weight will jump up. I can't eat all the good Cajun food I want. every Sunday we have a blast and we'll eat gumbo, jambalaya, spaghetti, whatever we want

on Sunday. That's Fintechite. I have a cheat day. Sunday is Sunday Fun Day. Sunday Fun Day, diet starts Monday. That's how I've lived my entire life. So you go for Miami, then you hop around to a bunch of places. At what point did you realize that you had a knack for being a great recruiter?

You know, when I first, I had a lot of success at Miami, but I was at a good school. And I loved it. I listened to Coach Johnson. I watched Tape with Coach Johnson. I listened to him evaluate. Butch Davis was on that staff. I watched him recruit, how relentless he was. So I kind of, you know, looked at those guys

and I said, okay, I can do this like this. I can do this like that. Then I went to Syracuse and it was, Joe Powell was early recruiting everybody. I learned how to early recruit. We didn't know how to do that at Miami. So I kind of put all that together. And when I became recruiting coordinator

with Coach Pete Carroll, put all the things that I learned from all the great ones that I just did it. How has your living room presence changed since back in the day at the University of Miami to right now? You know, I probably keep my shirt on most of the time. No, what would you say to somebody that say,

hey, Coach O's lost his fastball? Like he's not taking shirt off. He's not even orange. He's not messing anyone in the living room. He's not challenging people. Yeah, I'm thanking for the compliment. I'm growing up. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

So what did Pete Carroll teach you? Because Pete Carroll, just from the outside of people watching, it seems like you guys have different. Well, no, actually, you guys have similar coaching, you know, philosophies and the team oriented. But Pete's obviously a very, you know, he's always joking. He's always doing the, you know, pranks

and all that stuff at USC. What did you learn from him that you took on? First of all, Pete is very smart. And Pete had a plan. And he is a very detailed football coach. And I learned that from the good goal. Practice was everything. Energy, precise, getting after it.

The same thing in recruiting. You know, we go to 12, 15 schools a day in Los Angeles, you know. The guy was relentless. He loved recruiting. He always had energy. I think that's one of the most important things I learned from.

And then also the way he treated his team. Everybody loved Pete. Everybody loved to be around Pete. He made an atmosphere where everybody's comfortable and let everybody beat themselves. And we all came together as one team. Yeah. One other thing I think you borrowed from Pete

is the days of the week schedule, right? No question. So Mondays are for telling the truth. Yep. Tuesdays are. Competition Tuesday. No, is that competition? Oh, no repeat Thursday.

No turnover Wednesday. Turnover Wednesday, no repeat Thursday, Focus Friday. There you go, man. There we go. Hey, you know what? I want to invite you guys to come back. On Friday, we beat the drum. Ooh.

Two, two, two, two, two, two, two, two. One team, one heartbeat, man. Y'all come for Friday, we'll make it. Yes. Absolutely. You want to come for Focus Friday and for Saturday night in Death Valley. I think that'd be the best time ever.

I want to break down the week, though. So tell the truth Monday, what goes on there? Yeah, listen, good, bad, and different. We look at the tape. The coach, we don't have any MVPs. We don't have any super stars in the football team. So we look at the tape, we'll say what the team did well as a team and what the team must and will improve.

And when I tell them that they must and will improve, I will improve. I tell them I know you will. And that's all we do. We tried to do Tell the Truth Monday one time on our show. And it didn't work because we just made fun of each other for the stuff that we messed up over the weekend.

It got mean, it got mean fast. Have you ever thought about that? Most people fear Mondays in general, just in life. If you know that you've got to tell the truth Monday coming at you, that's like a double fear that you have. Because that's something I have to get over personally. You know, for us, I try to put in a positive spin. Maybe when I was a younger coach at Ole Miss,

I'd focus on the negative too much and raise my voice. I don't do that anymore. I just look at them and they understand where we need to get fixed. Yeah. OK, so then competition Tuesday, what goes down there? It's all about competing, man. It's 1-0-1s.

We grade the 1-0-1s. We have 9-0-7. And this is how we grade it. We go 12th place. And we'll see who wins between the offensive, the defensive, the offense. Gains more than three yards, they win. If the defense holds them under three yards, they win.

It's always a battle. I'm the referee. And it always ends up in a tie. I love it. OK, no turnover Wednesday? Yeah, focus is about the ball. It's all about the football. No turnover for the offense, turnover for the defense.

And do you make guys walk around the facility with balls? That's in my mind what you do. You know what? What we do is we have a ball in every room, and everybody taps it when they go under defense. I saw that. We walked in the defensive line room. We saw that ball.

Yeah. You know, saxophone was the best playing football, right? Yeah, I agree. There you go. Absolutely. Shovel pass. Also, the cat likes to shovel pass. It won the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I've been saying shovel pass for a really long time. People don't respect the shovel. What about the full-back dive? Full-back dive, you know, I was good in the 60s. Yeah, it's still good today. Sack fumble. See, people don't expect it coming now. They expect you to have some fancy offense.

But you average 2.9 yards a carry on full-back dives, and you keep the chains moving. Sack fumble is not only fun for the teams, but it's fun even when you're on your couch, because you get to even your, if it's your quarterback, standing up and being like, watch out, watch out, watch out. And if it's not, you're yelling ball. I yell ball every time on my couch.

I'm ready to go. All right, so no repeat Thursday. Yeah, it's like a dress rehearsal. Danfaces on short yardage, goal line and red zone. But we go over the game plan. We go to specific plays we're going to open with, the specific things that they think that we're going to do. We got to focus in.

No repeats when everything's perfect. OK, and then focus Friday. Focus Friday. You know, you're dealing, this is one of the things I learned from Pete. The week on the daily basis, how to focus in. And then on Friday, you're dealing with young men. You're dealing with a lot of coaches that has family.

Everybody's coming into town. They worry about tickets. They worry about girlfriends, all this stuff. Mom and dad are coming to town. So what we do when they get in here, boom. We close the doors. We shut it down. Now it's time for us to focus in.

We beat a drum. That's a big heartbeat. We take about a minute to reflect on what we've got to get done. We have a little sand, and then we say a little thing like special teams, ready, ready, dot, dot, dot. And you can hear the clap as it's crisp, ready to go.

Our guys are focused in. And we're rocking. I love it. I love it. It looks like Pete also told you about his shoes. Those are Pete Carroll models. Yeah, yeah, it looks like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I read that when you and Pete met, you bonded over your love of recruiting. Is that true? You know, here's what happened. This is a great story. I was recruiting on a young man named Sean Cody. And Sean Cody's dad, Big Mike, wanted him to go to Notre Dame.

And we didn't have a coach. I've been recruiting for two weeks with no coach. And people are looking at me like, what are you doing? So I'm recruiting. So you're recruiting for USC, no coach? No coach. And Mike Garrett had told us, listen, if you want to stay with USC, go on the road and recruit.

Well, obviously a lot of guys didn't. Some guys did. I was the one that did, OK? So I'm going out on the road and recruiting. And people are saying, you know, what are you doing? And laughing at that just today. They fired the head coach. They didn't fire me yet.

And they're going, yeah, right. So anyway, it's about two weeks. And this is a great story. And I'm watching Sean Cody's state championship game. He was the USA defensive player of the year. I went up to the stadium to shake Big Mike's hand. The mama and the grandma was there. And the coach of UCLA was to the left.

The coach of Notre Dame was to the right. I went to shake Big Mike's hand. He says, hey, coach, I'm sorry. My son is not going to USC. You don't have a coach. And I don't even know if you have a job. And then obviously, the guy from UCLA and the guy from Notre Dame started laughing.

I looked at Mike and I said, I'm going to coach at USC as long as I want. I'm going to coach your son. So I left. It was about half time. I said, you know what? I want to go up there and give those guys a piece of my mind. I said, you know what?

Not a good idea. Yeah. So I'm going home. If you guys are in Los Angeles, I'm going down the 714 Highway, freeway. I'm going to Lisa Ville in my hometown. And my friend Barry Sher calls me. He says, coach, what are you doing?

You know, in California, you have several state championships. I said, I'm on my way home from the state championships today. You ought to come to Anaheim Stadium. I looked 100 feet there. I was assigned to Anaheim Stadium. I said, I'm coming. I go there. It's about 10 o'clock on a Saturday night.

Barry Sher, my friend, gives me a sideline pass to go on the sideline. It's 10 30. It's foggy. I'm watching, I believe it was Loyola versus Long Beach Piley. They had the five great juniors. I knew every one of them. Guess who walks up to me?

Pete Carroll. I got my USC stuff on. He says, coach, what are you doing? I said, I'm recruiting. He goes, for who? I said, USC. He says, you know these players out here? I said, yeah, there's Manuel Wright.

There's Herschel Dennis. And I was talking about all the players. And I looked at him. I said, what are you doing? He said, I'm gonna be named the head coach at USC on Monday. I said, really? I said, okay, good.

I said, well, coach, I'm gonna be on some schools on Monday morning. I'm gonna get you on the phone with some recruits. We're gonna call the recruits and here we go. So he says, okay. He said, here's my number. Don't tell them about him in town. I said, all right.

Now he never told me I was gonna get a job or nothing. So I go to Sean Cody's school on Monday. I get coach on the phone with him. He's gonna be the first guy to talk to Sean Cody and all that stuff. And so he said, hey, Eddie, what are you doing at two o'clock? I got my press conference.

I said, coach, I'll be there. So I go to press conference. He does all this stuff. And he said, he meets with the staff. And I'm sitting in the corner and he goes, you know, guys, I'm a lot of good coaches on the staff, but I'm gonna start with you. I'm not keeping anybody.

And I went, are you kidding me? And I walk out and he goes, all except you, Eddie, let's get to work. Oh man, that's bad. We started recruiting together. Sean Cody was the USA defensive player of the year. He came to USA. Me and Big Mike became best friends.

That's great. Right there. That's great. It turned it around. That's a good lesson. If you just keep doing a job, it's a lot harder to get fired from. So that's a fantastic story.

So you go to Ole Miss. What were the, what would you learn from Ole Miss? Because you're kind of learning everything as you go along. Yeah, you know, I was a successful defensive line coach, a successful recruiter and being who I was. Now I went to Ole Miss, being a defensive line coach,

I was gonna be a head coach. Ain't gonna recruit the, I mean, coach the team like a defensive line coach, and they work and broke them. They couldn't handle it. A quarterback and a receiver will not handle the way you coach a six foot, three, three and a 30 pound guy.

It just doesn't work. And I worked, my coach was too hard, and I was too into it. And you know, some other things happened, but you know what, recruited well. Think about what happened. In three years, we put 16 guys in the NFL. So I had a good recruiting staff.

We just didn't get it done on the field. So when I finished Ole Miss, I spent five years writing down the things that I need to get better at. And I did that. And when my time came up at USC, I went back to my book, I looked at it and said, okay, man, this is what you said you're gonna do,

you're gonna do it. And I did it and it worked. And that was, so I fell in love with interim head coach, Edo, because what you did, and I'll admit, I like to gamble on football a little, but what you did when you became an interim head coach, both at USC and LSU, was you gave a jolt of energy to the team that just was missing.

And it was a running story that we would always talk about, like when interim head comes, interim head should just come and clean up everything. Like if you have a football team this thing, I even said, like, you should just travel the country, be an interim head for hire, like come in, inject that energy. So what do you do when you get a situation like that,

both at USC and LSU, where the coach gets fired, and now you're the one who's gotta finish all the season? Turning around, you know, the first thing I did was, I had a big rope, and I learned this from Coach Carroll. He did it to the team at midnight in the Coliseum, had a big rope, and I had the team pull against each other, running back first line, back at wide receiver versus DBs. Who went?

Hey, we went, we went. And then I had the whole team go by positions. I said, hey guys, when we pull against each other, nobody wins. Unless everybody get on the same side of the rope and pull. See how easy it is. You know, I'd been in some meetings where, you know, a defensive lineman might've been,

we lost the game, but a defensive lineman had two and a half sacks, three sacks. Wide receiver had nine catches, hey man, ain't on me. No, it's not about individuals, it's about a football team. And we started playing together as a team. We started getting re-energized as the coaches went home early. They saw their families. They came back, we worked with a smile.

They wanted to be there. We had fun coaching. So taking over as the head coaching position at a major program, whether that's Ole Miss, USC, LSU, how much of your job is spent doing X's and O's versus kind of managing everything else? Or like how much is spent teaching, you know, specific techniques to players as opposed to just being

a CEO of the program? Yeah, I do not look at myself as just a CEO. I come to work early in the morning. I get that stuff done in the morning, you know, before everybody gets to work. I'm organized, I do the practice schedules. I do the recruiting, anything I need to do. Any administrative stuff I need to do, take care of.

And then when it comes eight o'clock, I'm off of the ball. I'm ready to go. All during the day, I'm doing football. At night, we watch film. At night, before I go home, I check my duties, what I need to do. I'll do it. But I'm more of an on-the-field coach.

I coach the defensive line. I'm a hands-on, I watch every piece of film, offensive defense. We have a saying here, if we drill it, we film it. If we film it, we watch it. If it's broke, we fix it. That's what we do. Is there any jealousy from other position groups,

the tight ends or the wide receivers, and that they don't get the love that the defensive line gets from head coach? Yeah, you know what? At first, it could be a little uncomfortable. But after individual, I will go to them. I will stand behind the offense. I will cheer for the offense.

I do a lot of things with the offense that I didn't do when I was young. So I think the guys see it, but they also see the benefit of my expertise on the defensive line, helping the team, so I think they understand. What time do you get into work? You know, we get in the office in the season about five in the morning.

Yeah, but we get home about 10, so that's not bad. Oh yeah, so you go to sleep at 11 and you get up at four? That's not bad. How far does it commute? Well, you know, I live right on campus there, so it's about a couple minutes. Not bad. How many, do you still drink Red Bull?

You still drink energy drinks? You know, here's what I want to say. I've curtailed my Red Bull intake and master intake, but some days I need it, so I'll do it. So what was your peak? How many were you drinking at your peak? You know, I don't know. I don't want to put a number on there, but it's a lot.

You know, that's what I do, you know? But I do all day. This is like a 20-hour day. Yeah. You know, and you're not eating much and you got to get some juice in you, and I liked it. You did that with coffee. I mean, you look like you're in pretty good shape, though.

Do you still, you hit the gym? Every day. Do you work out? Yeah, well, no. I'm in the weight room at six. I try to get a little half hour left, then I go run or I'll have it noon. What do you bench?

Well, you know, I always can bench three plates, and that's my promise. Okay. Now, I promise myself, after I stop playing football, anytime that I can walk in the weight room, I need to bench three plates, so that's, that's, that's a great promise. That's still pretty good.

That's a great promise. Yeah, yeah. How much squat? Yeah, you know, my squat is going down, but I don't know, I can rep out three, 15 a couple of times or so. There you go. That's pretty good.

It's the most important exercise in the world. Yeah. Squat. What, can you tell the story about the worm? Is that true? Yeah. The worm in your mouth? Yeah.

So what happened there? I got the story from Joe Raymond Pease, who was a great offensive line coach at Northwestern State. And here's the story, okay? And he did it, and I did it in the spring game, my senior year, and it was kind of funny. After the practice, we had a spring game the next day, and I was looking for worms on the field,

and my coach, the coach goes and goes, my nickname's baby, he goes, baby, what are you doing here? I said, coach, I'm looking for some worms. He goes, and there were some worms on the field. He goes, okay. Well, here's the big one here. He said, baby, you going fishing?

I said, no, coach, I just got a little water basin on the speech and we'll get to the team. So here's the deal. So we had a big deal that night in spring game as my senior year. I was the team captain and I got up and I said, the story that was two men fishing in Isles in Alaska. And one was catching fish and the other one.

And he looks at the guy, he says, man, hey, how you catching all that fish? He said, man, I'm using worms. He goes, I'm using worms too. He said, yeah, but I need to feed my family. He said, the only way I know how to feed my family is catching these fish and I got to do whatever it takes. He said, I'm gonna tell you my secret.

Those worms gotta be real warm before you put them on the hook. So I keep them in my mouth to warm them up. Then I put them on the hook. And I said, you know, just like that fisherman, do whatever it takes for his family to feed his family. I'll do whatever it takes to win. And I pull out that big old worm.

Right around the head of my mouth. That thing was crawling around in between my teeth, man. I was so glad to get that worm on my mouth, I promise you, but that's about what's 23 years old. It was a long time ago. You gotta bring that back for a big game. Maybe Alabama came to show. The worm returns.

Yeah. Maybe I'll get an assistant to do it. Yeah. How do you get the nickname, Bay Bay? You know, my daddy was the youngest of 12 in the family. And he was supposed to be the youngest. And then his youngest sister came along by, you know. He was supposed to be the youngest.

Things happen. You know what I mean? Now they'll buy you, you know? Things slip up. Saturday night, Saturday night. That's right, Saturday night. Unless you win. Yeah, that's right.

That's right, exactly right. But, you know, I'd go to the ballpark with my daddy. His nickname was Bay Bay, because he's supposed to be the youngest in the family. They called me Little Bay Bay, T-Bay Bay, and then before he'd known I came to Bay Bay. Were you the youngest of your siblings? No, I have a younger brother.

Okay, so you were also supposed to be the youngest. Yeah, no, I don't know, but I didn't ever ask that question. Yeah. But to have a younger brother named Steve, he's a football player, and he still lives down there, yeah. Okay, all right. So LSU, is it safe to say that was your dream job? No question, man.

You know, just to watch the Tigers play, and I wanted to coach at USC, and I wanted to coach at Miami, and those are two things I always wanted to do, but I always had my eye on the Tigers. Just for some reason, if I ever be the head coach here, would be a dream, and fulfilled. And now I got it, but I got to do something with it.

Now I understand that. Now I understand the expectations here, and they high, but you know what, they high myself too. Yeah, what was the first thing that you bought after becoming head coach at LSU? Oh, nothing, I don't know, nothing. I just called my wife and thanked her and thanked my family, and I'm sure they bought a lot of stuff, but I didn't.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't treat yourself? Yeah. No, I'm not like that. I'm a simple guy. I don't need much. I'll tell you what, me and my wife decided, I got a tail, and he was Sam Willard,

and I was just that jacket and some pants. We needed to get you some tailor suits, so we invested in some tailor suits, so we did buy that, so I can say some new clothes, yeah. Yeah, so all right, so speaking of your dreams, we have a little Lisa question, so it's promo code GRITTOUR, and you get $130 off your Lisa mattress.

You gotta get a Lisa mattress. Okay. You sleep well, you dream. What is your dream for LSU and your time with LSU? National champs. I want a national championship for the state of Louisiana for these players that they yearn for, they work for it, and I wanna win a national championship.

Do you still dream? Do you remember your dreams? Yeah, oh, sure, all of that. What was the last thing you dreamed about? I dreamed about our dog, our dog came home with our boys, Benny, in fact, he slept in the room last night, and I dreamed about Benny or something like that, he's in the yard, I was trying to chase him, so.

Chase the dog. All right, that sounds like you're sleeping on a Lisa already, so I put in promo code GRITTOUR, you get $130 off. I might be mistaken, but if it were up to me, I would say that the head football coach of LSU gets to own Mike the Tiger while he's in town. Do you think that that would be fair to have Mike the Tiger be technically your pet?

You know what, I don't think so, because he belongs to our fans, and he means a lot, a lot of people, you know, you go to Mike the Tiger every day, there's a lot of people touring with a lot of young kids, so I would not wanna be selfish and take that away from our fans. Do you ever go just look at him? Oh yeah, you know, we have recruits here on Saturday,

we walk by the cage, we look at him, he's growing, he looks good, he looks healthy, looks like he can run the ball. Yeah, he does, and you love run the ball, right? No question. Yeah, that's, I mean, what's your favorite, like if you could pick one thing to do in football, would it be to run the ball?

No, you know what, I like, you know, really, I like the big pass, I like the touchdown pass, I like the bomb, I like it, you know, like the Oakland Raiders go deep, Al Raiders just win, baby, I like that. Now I like, I wanna be physical. Just win, baby. Yeah, that's right, I wanna be physical,

but there ain't nothing like the deep pass, man. Yeah, yeah. Skinny post. How do you motivate your team before a big game? What's your process? Here's what, it's gotta start on Monday. It ain't no super speech, nothing like that, it's gotta start on Monday.

Really the ones that you need to motivate are the teams that you're supposed to beat. That's the one that I worry about the most. And if you don't do a good job, most of the time you're gonna play to their level, and you don't wanna do that. So when we play Alabama, we play Florida, guys are gonna be jacked up.

I gotta be watching it, they're not too fired up during the week, you know what I'm saying? But it's the teams that we're favored heavily, that we really gotta watch it that week. Yeah, you had a little, a small setback last season with something like that, but you managed to make your team bounce back from there. How do you, after demoralizing loss like that,

how do you get the attention of your team and make them focus and ready to like be fired up just like they were? Yeah, there was a search here all week. You know, I had 11 guys come in my office right there, and you guys remember, you remember when daddy said, come to the table, we got a meeting, it's a family meeting, we had a family meeting,

I said, throw it on the line, what's up? You know, actually one of them told me that it was too nice. I said, you know what, I get that fixed right away. Yeah, that's no problem. No problem, but you know what, we talked about as a team, we went in there, we had a team meeting, some coaches were against it, players only meetings don't work and all that,

this one did, we needed it. And we made an affirmation, tell ourselves, we had our heart beat meeting on Friday, and I did this, like that. So we get on the plane, I want everybody to hit their jaw just like that. If you're listening right now, Coach O is punching his own jaw.

Yeah, just hit your jaw, like that. And we're not getting back on this plane till we beat the Florida Gators. And I tell you what, everybody ran out in that field, post their jaw like that, and we won that football game, and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I believe the Troy lost as bad as it was.

And grit, adversity, we had to block out the noise, stuff was going on all over, so guys had to hear a bunch of stuff. I told them, block out the noise, let's just go beat Florida. Since the Troy game, not count the bowl, we went six and one. That was a great lesson for us all. And I count your bowl game as a win, that was a weird game. I count that as a win, I hate Notre Dame, so.

I count that as a win. So just in my record book, you went seven and one. Thank you buddy. Yeah, no problem, I got you. What was the last time you took off your shirt and challenged a defensive lineman to a wrestling match? That's been a while. That's been a while.

My day is at USC for sure. There's no question that that was done once in a while. And you're not gonna bring that? Is that retired? Is that officially retired? That is officially retired unless I get really mad. I don't plan on getting really mad. Okay, that's a break glass in case of emergency.

I like that though. Football coaches like to me, every now and then, you gotta get your hands dirty. I will say that to you. That ability to do that is always there. Yeah, just like have a fun wrestling match, you know? That's all you need actually. You don't need to actually do it.

You just have to have your players believe that you're capable of that. Yeah, right, right, right. And let's see, it's just take our shirts off and let's just have everyone's had a wrestling match. It's fun. Let me say this to you. When you're 27 years old, you coach at Warren Sapp,

you gotta have your stuff together. So I'm gonna tell you, you gotta walk in the room and there ain't no pencil necks allowed, I promise. Right, I would definitely imagine that around Warren Sapp. Absolutely, absolutely. You got any other questions? Yeah, so I'm just kinda curious. You've talked a lot about how much you've grown,

things that you've tried to change, on things that you've worked on. If you were to identify one weakness for Coach O right now, as Chief Executive Ojeron of the LSU football program, what is the one thing that you can still improve on? My patience. But I don't think I'm in a patient business. Yeah, true.

I wanna win now. I wanna, just like the fans want to, I wanna win now. I know it's a process. I know we're developing this team, we're developing this roster. I wanna be undefeated just like anybody else, being a national championship. But I think that's a motivational tool for us

and we gotta use it, but I need to be patient with my football team. Yeah, did any, at any point in your career, did any head coach try to tell you that you had to like lessen your accent or anything? Never. Good. If you would have, we'd have had a private conversation.

Yeah, because I mean, that's what, I mean, just listening to you talk. I mean, that's, I can understand why you're a great recruiter. Yeah, I'm not, that is not never ever gonna be discussed. I'm proud of me and Cajun, I'm proud of who I am and whoever that doesn't like it, that's up to them. But I'm not a guy to ridicule anybody else about their nature or who they are.

I respect everybody and I would continue to think they would respect me. Now, is it a situation where when you go back home to LaRose and you're around like the Cajun community, when you speak, we wouldn't even be able to understand what you're saying? No, no, no, no, I speak Cajun friends. You like to do it?

You say something? Yeah. So va bien, who drink, how so va bien? We so well. Très bien. Yeah, très bien. T'as compris ça, ouais. Allons-mongers.

All the rest, oui. Et tout fait. Et tout fait, c'est bon, ouais. The patatri. There are two voices when I hear right now, I think football. One is yours, the other is Bruce Arians. But he's a little bit different

because he's got a little mix from everywhere in America, he's like Alabama, Pittsburgh, all over the place. But you are, when I hear your voice, I think SEC football. Thank you, man, I appreciate you guys. Yeah, well, appreciate you having us here. And go Tigers.

Go Tigers. Oh, one last question. You love tweeting out, hold that tiger. What does hold that tiger mean? Every time we get a comment, I tweet out, hold that tiger. Now I can't say who it is or what it is, but I tweet out, hold that tiger.

And then usually they announce it right after. It's like the smoke coming out of the Vatican when you find a new pope. I retweet that no matter what, every time from your. Thank you. I don't know what, I never knew what it meant and I just retweet it, auto retweet when I see it. It's even better now that I know what it means.

It just means like something's cooking up down in the diet. Something's cooking, yeah. And then you might get another one the next couple of days. Ooh, okay. I'm gonna retweet that. I'm gonna retweet that. All right, Coach L, go Tigers. Go Tigers.

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Nick Saban ain't the one that you're trying to do that to. Nick Saban is on that level. I matter of fact. So yeah, that's Stephen A. Smith just letting it fly. As a white guy, I'm actually, I feel like he's treating me with respect. Yes. That he's comfortable enough with me as his audience.

That he just says whatever's on the top of his mind and he just lets it fly. It's like we're two buddies just hanging out having a drink. Yeah, he is. Stephen A. Smith is like when you get in a relationship with a girl and you don't fart or shit around her for like four months. And then that first time when you're like,

just let one slide sitting on the couch on a Sunday afternoon. That basically signifies, okay, this relationship is real and we can trust each other. That's Stephen A. Smith with his audience. And many people out there will say, well, hey, if Max Kellerman had said this on the air, people would be all up in arms.

And you're absolutely right. Yeah, it's fair. They probably would be. But I think we can admit that there's probably a little bit of a difference. Subtle. Stephen A. Smith is, yeah, he's cool enough where he can do that.

Way cool. I also have a theory that Stephen A. Smith is just trying to get broken up with at ESPN because he misses Skip Bayless so much. I like that. They need each other. I like that theory a lot. God bless the broken road

that will eventually lead Stephen A. Smith back to Skip. And if he has to drop the in bomb a couple of times on the air, so be it. It's gonna be like, what was the famous band where they finally got back together? Poison? Sure. I don't know.

There's a couple out there. The Beatles. It's like the Beatles playing on the rooftop. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, the Beatles, when they almost did that show together on Saturday Night Live, that's what Stephen A. Smith and Skip will always be for us. It's like Oasis.

Trying to get back together, but then they just throw Molotov cocktails at each other and it never happens. They smash each other in the face, be like, you're my brother. I got a Rick Raleigh joke about this. But I don't know if I permission to go there. No, listen, Stephen A. Smith has taught us

we are comfortable with our audience. You can make the worst joke possible and just say Rick Raleigh would have made it so it wasn't made. Rick Raleigh would say about this, hypothetically. It's Stephen A. Smith. He's using the right version of the word. His name's Stephen A. Smith, not Stephen E.R. Smith.

Okay. I think that's above Raleigh. Yeah, I don't know if Raleigh would even do that. You know what? That was like a 2.75 Kate Upton boobs on like a rogue Rick Raleigh Twitter account, a parody account. It just gets like hardcore.

An NC17 Raleigh account. Oh, man. If that's offensive, I didn't say it. No, Rick Raleigh. Yeah, hypothetical Rick Raleigh. Yeah, Ricky Raleigh. At Ricky Raleigh said that, not Rick Raleigh, not PFT. All right, next up we have a respect to business.

This is a pretty important one. The racist Rick Raleigh. Right, right Raleigh. Yeah. Now that's like another two points. You're racking up the boobs on the parody Rick Raleigh account. This is lucrative. We've got Trey Wingo Time Machine.

And there's racist Rick Raleigh. Right, right, right, Raleigh. Build a website, parody account. Jesus Christ, our brain is just turned into mush. Speaking of which, go to mjvirtualbrown.net and tracktrashown.com. All right, we have a respect to business. It's for us.

So we called in to Brad Stevens press conference on Friday and asked a couple of questions. Here's the audio. Hey, coach. It's Dan Katz from mjvirtualbrown.net. I was wondering, do you think that you're coaching for your job this playoffs? I don't really ever think about it.

But it's your job to coach. It's just one of those things. When you're in coaching, you get into coaching understanding that it's probably not going to end well. And there's only so much you can control. You just try to enjoy being around the players you're with and the coaches you're with, the front office you're with, and everybody else, the ownership.

And just try to enjoy the experience. Have as good of an experience as we all can have. When it comes to an end, it comes to an end. Thanks. Hey, coach. This is PFT Cometer from draftjoshallon.com. I was wondering if you had any interest in LeBron James as a free agent this summer.

He hasn't made up his mind yet. Please. So the question is, do we need to respect the biz more? I think we do. I think we're a little punk. We're definitely punk frauds. And we're just, we're in our mom's basement calling. By the way, these conference calls, they're open.

It's not like a closely guarded secret how to get into these. The best part is, I understand that, I understand normal people wouldn't understand how these work because it's like maybe like 25 people who all work for random publications around the world. A South African dude was talking to him about Nelson Mandela before we asked these questions.

So I don't, I understand people don't understand how it works, but it was honestly just a conference call that we called into and just blurted out a question. And the best part is, it wasn't like, I'm pretty sure everyone was like, how did they do this? How did they get a Twitter egg sent it to us? A Twitter egg was like, hey,

here's Brad Stevens' press coverage. These aren't the nuclear codes. The AWL Twitter egg though. Yeah, so yeah, I just don't want to reveal, I'm saying Twitter egg because I don't want to blow his spot up. He actually does have an avatar, but I'm calling with Twitter egg

so that no one goes looking for him. But now, whatever, I blew the cover, but it's a Twitter egg. It was Brad Stevens on an off day doing a 30 minute press conference. And you know what, he did about 27 of those minutes. Yes. And then he was like, okay, we're done here at the end. But the questions were all done.

Like there were five second pauses in between them. By the way, maybe the funniest part of that whole call was about a minute before you asked your question. You started to ask your question, but you got talked down. Okay, we'll put this in there too. By a capital bit. We'll put this in there too.

You got, yeah, they gave you a dot above your little lowercase J there. Hey coach, this is, God, go ahead. Alfred, damn it. Wow, I got Alfred. You got owned. I got Alfred.

I got Alfred hardcore. This is how it works in the press world. You got to just jump in and you got to throw out your question. Say what you will about the NFL. And we love it. But they know how to hold an over the phone press conference because when we prank called those ones,

they like give you, they mute and unmute your phone for you and they cut you off and they put you in a queue so you can't just blurt out a question. Right, if you had introduced yourself as Dan Katz from mjvslebron.net on an NFL call, they probably never would have gotten it. No, they would have shut me down.

Yeah, but as long as you just get into this NBA call. Yeah, it's open. Not to victim shame, but the NFL knows how to stop us. Right, the NBA, they were kind of asking for it. Yeah, well, you got to ask what they had, there were some elements of provocation that the NBA gave to us.

Oh man. By the way, we're going to retire from conference calls for a little bit. Yeah, we are. Yeah. That's like a once a year thing. We've done it like three times. People are like, oh man, how are they doing this again?

I saw some big J's on Twitter getting upset. I think there's one of those like random conference calls every single hour in sports. And we've been on two, two in two and a half years. We were on the Tony Roma one too. We just never got a question. Yeah, because yeah, he fucking filibusters and the Mike Mayhawk one.

He also filibustered us. So Mike Mayhawk goes on for like three hours. That doesn't count. It doesn't count unless we get a question. My favorite part about this, this most recent one, besides you getting offered was the article that came out was in Boston Herald on Saturday, saying how actually the way that Brad Stevens

stuffed big cat into his shirt. Yes. Shows a lot about what a great coach. It was fantastic that Brad Stevens answered, are you coaching for your job? Completely honest and genuine being like, you know, when you get into this profession, you know that you're something gonna get fired.

It's like, no, actually Brad, we were just talking about the fact that it's your job to coach. So you're coaching for your job. So in conclusion, we will not be breaking into any more conference calls unless they're particularly hilarious ones for the next eight months. Okay, perfect.

That's our pledge to respect the best. So everyone just NFL, just relax. We're not gonna do it. You can just let all these numbers fly. We're not gonna call in. Not gonna do it. As totally random people. Nope.

You shouldn't be worried. You should do your English, your Canadian GM accent next time we prank call. Oh yeah, yeah. No one knows us. So you managed to wrap up. Stop, stop, I can't take it. We just, we simply can't beat LeBron.

Hank is just farting. We're in an RV and I was wondering why it smelled bad, thanks Hank. We have a PR 101 for Terrence Newman. Terrence Williams. Terrence Williams, what happened? Terrence Williams pulled the old Lance Briggs. He was still looking for that guy.

He was driving his Lamborghini and he crashed it into, allegedly, allegedly crashed the Lamborghini into a pole. By the way, we have stopped, not only far, but we're waiting for it to move over to us because he's made it clear that it's as bad as possible. And I'm just gonna sit here, bad radio. I'm sorry.

All right, now I got it. All right, thanks for apologizing, Hank. Appreciate it. All right, so Terrence, Terrence Williams pulled the Lance Briggs. He allegedly hit a pole with his Lamborghini and then he got out of the car, got on a bike, started biking away

and then got arrested for a DUI on the bike. Which didn't know that you could do that. Yep, apparently you can. And then there was some, he said, she said about what happened with the accident because the cop said that he hit a light pole and then his lawyer said there was actually no light pole anywhere around.

So mystery pole. Looks like he's already out of it. Yeah. You can throw that out of court. Actually, Your Honor, it was a very heavy pole. Yeah, you can't, there you go. That was back to real life, Riley. Back to real life.

I love this. I mean, this is Lance Briggs did the playbook. You just run. When you crash your Lamborghini, you run and report it as a crime. No one will make fun of you forever. Yeah, you can just give the cops an ID of someone that looks exactly like you.

Yeah. So if somebody stole my car, I'd be like this moderately height guy, because he was just a perfectly normal height with long hair, devishly good looking. You'd never find you. Took my car and crashed into a pole. There you go.

All right, last up, we have a problematic. So this happened during game three. There was a clip where a man sitting in the front row of the Cavs game with a Make America Great hat, it looked like LeBron saw him and threw something, threw something so he couldn't get it. And the world freaked out and was like, LeBron just stunted on the Make America Great guy.

I don't know, I actually don't, I actually don't even know why this is a segment. So I gotta be honest. Yeah, I guess because people got mad about it. Yeah, the only thing I had about it was the fact that, like the whole politics of it, detracted from the fact that it was a grown ass man asking for a souvenir, sweaty towel.

Like that's really what the story is here, guys. Take the politics out, that guy's a loser. That guy would sell that on eBay for like 500 bucks. And then he would go and try, like he would have like a sick little kid go up and get an autograph from LeBron on the sweaty towel and sell for a thousand bucks. It actually would have been more of an owned by LeBron

if he had thrown the towel to him. Yeah. I mean like here, catch my sweat towel. Yeah, take my sweat. Yeah, go get your shine box. Yeah, exactly. So LeBron, I kind of blew, well now the question has to be asked,

is LeBron a Trump supporter for protecting that guy from a nasty sweaty towel? Sweat, yeah. This was one of those moments I saw it real time and I was like, ah, this is gonna be something stupid on the internet. You know when you can like see something happen in a game, you're like, the internet's gonna fucking freak out

about this and this is the dumbest moment ever. But to be fair, nobody we out there really thought that LeBron James like was anything but like a Trump hater because he's already said he got him like a clown and all that. Yeah, yeah. It's not surprising that. But the moment was so inconsequential

and then everyone's like, oh, shit. Well, why don't we just remember the fact that LeBron once flashed us his dick? Yeah, good point. Let's just go back to that, okay? Good, great point. I mean, people forget, LeBron once showed America his dick.

If you don't know about that, Google it and take the not-safe-for-work filter off. And then take a screenshot of it and send it to Hank. Yeah, tweet it, add Hennies so he can knows how a real dick works. All right, that's our show. We have, how bad? Farted now.

Oh, well. Yeah, you deserve that. We have hopefully the head football coach who used to drink paint. That's what we're going for. Coming up on Wednesday, we're gonna be traveling down to Jacksonville. Hopefully traveling to Tampa.

Oh, we're definitely traveling to Tampa on Wednesday night for game seven. Caps lighting, Caps gonna dominate. Sargy Saros, Sargy Saros in the ocean that they died blue. I mean, I think I have to. Hell yes. I think it has to be a Sargy Saros situation. If the Caps lose game seven in Tampa

and we're there, you have to jump into the ocean. Well, so that's the Bay. Yep, there's a big difference there. True, true. I got well actually on that. The Bay is different from the Gulf, which is different from the ocean. So I will do Sargy Saros in some form in Tampa.

I don't know if it's one of those like San Antonio situations where you get arrested if you jump into the river walk or whatever. I think no, there's boats and stuff there. Okay, cool. Sargy Saros, Tampa, but it's not gonna happen. No, it's Caps here. Caps are gonna lose in six.

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