Pardon My Take - March Madness, Brady Quinn, And FB Alex Armah
Episode Date: March 22, 2019We're live from the sportsbook in New Jersey suffering through the first day of March Madness. Izzo lost his mind, Rovell kept his streak alive, and we read Wofford's roster. (2:35-12:19) The debut of... the new country hit who cars it's Louisiana, Louisiana who cares. (12:20-15:17) Former NFL QB and owner of the most fuckable spiral Brady Quinn joins the show to talk about his career in the NFL, his post playing career and the great charity work he does for veterans. (16:34-56:36) Carolina Panthers Fullback Alex Armah joins the show to talk about his citizen arrest and a bonus Mt Rushmore of fullbacks. (58:18-1:14:02) Segments include way to stay relevant Baseball for Ichiro retiring (1:15:25-1:18:41), respect the biz (1:18:42-1:19:57) and new segment Florida Man (1:19:58-1:25:54)Â You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, March Madness is here.
We are fighting, clack, scratching, clawing through the tournaments.
We also have Brady Quinn on the show, and fullback from Carolina Panthers, Alex Arma,
two great interviews.
We also have a fun little game and a song.
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Today is Friday, March 22nd, and we are coming to you live from the Meadowlands.
We are in a casino right now.
We spent all day.
We are.
We're in a sports book.
We're in a sports book.
A sports book counts as a casino, Michael.
You probably hear the AC in the background, but that's okay.
We are in the sports book.
We are in the Meadowlands, home of the New York football giants, and I want to die.
Yeah.
You sound great.
You've had a rough day today.
I haven't been outside.
Well, that's awesome.
Here's the thing.
Most people don't understand unless they've lived this life of college basketball fandom.
Is watching college basketball for 15 hours a day is a sport?
It is.
It is literally a sport, and we're pretty fucking good at it.
Yes.
It's hard.
It's hard work.
I've been in the sports book literally from 11 a.m. till we're taping this at 11 p.m.
I have not been outside once, and we had a good first round of the tournament, first
day of the tournament.
No real offsets.
It was interesting.
The games out there, the end of the Villanova St. Mary's game was exciting.
The Dribble Out by Vermont to cover the spread was very exciting.
John Morant, future Chicago Bull, John Morant was Lights Out, and Murray State dominated
Marquette.
They looked really, really good.
I was so in the zone today when I was putting all my bets, and I think I bet on every game,
but I was so in the zone.
I was like on automatic the entire time to the point where I accidentally bet on a college
basketball insider.com tournament game.
I accidentally bet on FAU, and they covered it.
I love that tournament.
I was like FAU, automatic.
Yeah.
They don't choke in the postseason.
My terrible gambling story of the day was that I got on tilt and saw the Blackhawks
tied 1-1 in the third period, and immediately lied, bet the Blackhawks, and the Flyers
scored as the guy was handing me the ticket.
That's tough.
Yeah, but we're here.
We're surviving.
It was a fun, I mean the first round of the tournament, it doesn't even matter if there's
not big offsets.
I would count Murray State as a decent upset, the old 12-5, and Minnesota, the revenge of
Rick Petino.
They won his underdogs.
It wasn't like there was no big wow offsets.
Bradley took Michigan State.
I mean actually that's probably the biggest story of the day.
Tom Izzo is a fucking psycho.
He was mad.
Hey, Tom Izzo, you mad.
He was so mad.
You big mad, Tom.
Dude, he almost fought his, I've never seen a coach have to be held back from the
back from his own players.
Yeah, he was going at him.
And you know what?
I would have taken Tom Izzo in the fight.
Yeah.
He looked like he should be on the sidelines wearing like a white tank top with a stain
on it.
Like he was on cops holding a pint of Jack.
He was very, very angry.
I'm looking through the games right now.
The other notables was Scott Van Pelt avoided a total meltdown as Maryland survives against
Belmont.
That's really all they need.
Just get to the second round, make Scott happy for today.
Yeah, exactly.
Let him have one more weekend.
He has to enjoy his Friday.
That's important.
He was dominated, which was like the classic Everyone Loves Northeastern and then Kansas
came out and was like, Hey, we might suck.
We might be a shitty version of Kansas this year, but we're still Kansas.
We're still better than Northeastern.
And it's still the first round.
So you don't wait.
We'll wait till we get to the sweet 16 for Bill Self to collapse.
And please don't bury the lead.
Please don't bury the lead.
As of right now, it is 1130.
Mike Greenberg has a perfect bracket.
Whoa.
Perfect bracket for Greeny.
His wife's going to let him French kiss her tonight.
No tongue, but still open mouth.
Damn.
Teeth on teeth action for Greeny tonight because he's got the perfect bracket.
Look at Greeny, the perfect bracket.
That is a story amongst itself.
We also had the streak has lived on.
Darren Revelle did not fill out a bracket.
He said he forgot, conveniently forgot thoughts and prayers.
You know what?
Darren knows brands and he, I might, my suspicion is he realized at the very last minute that
his brand is being the guy that doesn't fill out a bracket and tells you that it is.
So he said, it could be bad.
Yeah.
It would just be a bad change of pace.
He just said that he likes rooting for like the chaos, but then he just made bets.
Yeah.
Well, here's what he said.
He said, I plan on filling out a bracket, but I never got around to it.
The streak continues.
The streak everyone's talking about and I'm not upset about it, much more enjoyable to
root for greatness over your 17 different combinations, at least to me.
This is the most perfect streak for Darren Revelle to be like, I have a streak of not
participating in fun.
That's really what it is.
So he is making bets this postseason.
So do you think, what do you think he gambles?
What's his unit per game?
I think it's probably just like, like a meal at McDonald's.
I was gonna say 69 every time.
$6.99.
$6.99.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
That sounds about right.
Yeah.
Well, he would tweet out pictures of his tickets, I think, if he was doing that.
Yes, of course.
I think it's an embarrassingly low per unit play.
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
We don't unit shame, but we will for Darren Revelle.
No, we don't.
For Darren, we will.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Other stories that we had.
Oh, I wanted to play a fun game.
You ready for this game?
Well, I'm going to read some of the roster of the Wofford Terriers.
Okay.
You ready for this?
Because they have the greatest collection of names I've ever seen on a team.
First up, this name is actually a fake name.
I'm convinced of it.
Fletcher McGee.
Yeah.
That's good.
Fletcher McGee is absolutely a fake name.
Isaiah Bigelow, that's just a regular name.
Storm Murphy.
Yeah.
Okay.
It sounds like porn star.
Oh, you want porn star?
Yes.
Nathan Hoover.
Okay.
Trevor Stump.
Yeah.
That's a porn name.
Another one.
The Big Chode.
Yes.
Messiah Jones.
That's a hell of a name, too.
These names are, and now here's the best one, Donovan Theme Love.
Fuck yes.
All right.
I love Wofford.
Theme Love.
Donovan Theme Love.
Wofford has the greatest roster of all time.
Now we're taping this while they're fighting for their lives, so I don't know if they'll
advance, but just recognize that they have the best collection of names.
I'm going to read you some of the names from Nevada, from the Wolf Pack.
Oh, yeah.
I was watching the game.
Caroline Brothers.
People are also very upset with how we say Nevada.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's Nevada.
It's Nevada.
It's Oregon.
Oregon.
That whole thing.
Who says Oregon?
Oregon Trail.
Yeah, you're right.
It's not Oregon Trail.
No, it's Oregon Trail.
But the name of the state is Oregon.
Yes.
Yes.
Good point.
Okay.
Here's some of the names from Nevada.
I was looking at the back of their Jersey State.
It's Nevada.
Nevada.
Nevada.
Nevada.
And then their bench is Nevada.
Nevada.
Nevada.
Nevada.
You get the sharp A if you make the starting five.
So yeah, it's been, I mean, there really is nothing like the first, oh, we got pizzas
being delivered, mid podcast.
There's nothing like the first day of the tournament, the first two days of the tournament.
It's chaos.
I don't even remember much of what happened.
I just know I loved every second of it while simultaneously hating every second of it.
It's all one game.
It's all one game, baby.
It's all one game.
So the other thing I noticed was coach fashion is at an all time high.
Some of the ones that just stick out in my brain, Bayhime looked good.
Yep.
The coach of St. Mary's, a little bulldog looking guy that looks like...
Randy Bennett.
Yeah, Randy Bennett.
He looks like if Bruce Boudreau went on Weight Watches for like a week.
He does.
And he also, here's the thing.
When you bet on a team, what you really, really don't want is for your coach to just
look like a fucking idiot.
Yeah.
So when they flash to him and you're like, that's the guy?
Like Bruce Pearl, when Auburn was melting down and almost lost that game and he had
three timeouts in his back pocket and he just stood on the sidelines screaming and sweating.
You're just like, you know what?
This was the worst bet ever.
I should...
Next time I bet on Auburn, just show me sweaty Bruce Pearl screaming at the top of his lungs
and be like, I don't trust that guy.
Right.
That's why you should always bet on Jay Wright.
Yes.
Jay Wright looked good today.
And the Florida coach.
The Florida coach always looks impeccable.
Did you notice Jay Wright, he had the fancy jacket.
So like much to Rick Riley's chagrin, he only had two breasts on it.
Oh.
For the first...
Well, first round of the tournament, you know.
Yeah.
You got to build up to it.
He looks like...
They're a Fortune 500 company.
They are.
They run themselves.
We know that.
We know that.
All right.
Let's talk a little bit about tomorrow.
We have Duke.
Hank.
Duke.
One seed.
Do you think lightning could strike twice here?
No.
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Our good friend, Caleb Pressley, brought up a good point today when he asked, is Duke
a Cinderella story since Zion lost his shoe?
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point.
That's a terrible point.
I would say Liberty's a better Cinderella story because they have to be home by midnight.
It's actually a rule on campus.
True.
True.
That is.
So it's a steep foot for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Liberty, they're my team this year.
I can't wait for them to win two games and I get to go celebrate in Las Vegas in true
Liberty University fashion.
I'm excited for the Wisconsin game because we already had the 12-5 upset.
Oh, yeah.
So Murray State beat Mark happens each year.
There's literally just making noise in the background right now.
I don't know why they decided right now would be the time to clean up everything.
This is they're going to put on a production of Stomp in here in this sense.
Yes.
They're literally taping this from a sports book, from a racetrack, so we're as degenerate
as you can get.
No, this is the Mecca for day one.
Yes.
If you spend the first two total days here, I think that would be an issue.
Yeah.
I would, I'm sleeping over, so yeah, we're staying right next to my tent that I'm sleeping
in tonight.
Fun fact, I slept in a Buffalo Wildlings last night.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you did.
That's right.
Check that off the bucket list.
All of our advertising now is just becoming, hey, why don't they just sleep there?
Yeah.
It's innovative.
They're literally whores.
We will stay over at your place if you pay us enough money.
All right.
I'm going to pull an audible here and other big news that everyone's talking about PFT.
Well, are you talking about the song?
Of course I am.
Okay.
So before we get to that, on, I think it was Monday's show, we started doing Louisiana
Who Cares?
Yup, for Will Wade.
Who Cares is Louisiana.
Yup.
Right, for Will Wade.
And Big Cat said, I think I said the page, the like first page of the report is just
going to say Who Cares is Louisiana.
Yup.
And the last page will say it's Louisiana Who Cares and we're like, that sounds like
an awesome country song.
So we wrote a country song about it.
You wrote a country song.
Yeah.
There's actually a new Louisiana Who Cares in the news today.
Turns out the state accidentally double-paid tax refunds to, I think, hundreds of thousands
of Louisiana residents and they just figured it out right now.
So good luck getting that money back.
Yeah, hell no.
If you don't think that like 500,000 people have started like Roadkill Cafes or Crawfish
Boat or just like a zoo slash casino is opening up with that money.
That's been done.
Moonshine business.
Yeah.
They basically took that cash and put it directly into gin in their bathtub.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They bought five new backup Mike the Tigers just in case.
So I mean, God bless Louisiana.
Who Cares is Louisiana.
You're not getting that money back.
So yeah, wrote a song about it.
So here it is.
The world premiere of Who Cares is Louisiana.
In parenthesis, it's Louisiana Who Cares.
Some folks take corruption, some folks say folks will break it along.
Some folks have a problem the way we prove basketball.
Me, I don't mind it, damn it, by you all is fair, because it's Louisiana, it's Louisiana
Who Cares.
But they paid a teacher $400,000 who didn't even work at the college, Who Cares, the state
accidentally paid back millions in double refunds of federal income taxes.
Should we go get the money back?
Who Cares?
It sounds like a great time, but it's dangerous, Who Cares?
Sometimes out of town, there's a lot to think and no wrong and right, And why I tap my
mouth, coach, I'll suspend, damn it, why, Every time I had a backman or an incarcerated
man, Who Cares is Louisiana, it's Louisiana Who fucking Cares.
All right, that was Louisiana Who Cares, unbelievable song, because it's Louisiana Who Cares.
Have you heard it?
I have.
I heard a little bit of it when I came into the studio the other day.
It's a little jingle jangly.
I saw the end of it.
Well, you were singing the chorus and it got right in my head.
That's true.
It's catchy.
Yeah, it's Louisiana Who Cares.
Okay, let's get to our interviews.
We have Brady Quinn, then we have Alex Arma.
Before we do that, hey PFT, what's your favorite restaurant in the entire world?
That's easy, it's Buffalo Wild Wings.
And I did stay over in a Buffalo Wild Wings the other night.
That part's true.
I want to know out there, how are you spending March this year?
Where are you going to watch the tournament?
Are you going to stream it in your office?
Well, it's this greatest sporting event on the planet and you're stuck watching it in
a work hole.
Or worse, you're watching it all alone in your silly little boy cave.
So come on.
When did that nine to five become nine to life?
The big dance wasn't made for the tiny screens, so quit your job, call in sick, call in and
quit, don't show up, just do something.
And follow the tribe down to B-dubs, because dunks, buzzer beaters, wild upsets, game winning
threes, this isn't the stuff of the water cooler.
This is the stuff of cold beers and wild wings, as in Buffalo Wild Wings.
Are you going to watch the game with Ken from Accounting?
Ken's the worst.
Are you going to watch with a hundred screaming savages and way too many giant TVs and beer
and wings and nachos and all the things a rabid sports fan needs?
Well, you should.
Trust me, just take a long lunch, don't go back in, you're not that important, nobody's
going to miss you.
Get rabid, get heated, bear hug a stranger, and scream until we bust all our brackets
at Buffalo Wild Wings.
And now, Brady Quinn.
Okay, we now welcome on Brady Quinn.
What?
Is that the syncing audio?
Is that what that was?
It's just more of a thing in my head.
He doesn't even have to do it.
It's like a break.
Yeah, exactly, you know that Brady as a former quarterback, or are you always a quarterback?
Once a quarterback, always a quarterback?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay.
So let's start with the question that I've always, I've asked you personally, privately,
but I need to ask for the audience, how did you get such a fuckable spiral?
Because it is the Brady Quinn college spiral is the most beautiful thrown pass I've ever
seen in my life.
It's something special.
Yeah.
So Varsity Blues had a pretty big, you know, impact on my life, I think most, most guys
at that point in time, they're like, I want to be Johnny Mokson, right?
Or what was Twitter?
I wanted to be Twitter.
Who was the quarterback he took over?
Lance.
That was Paul Walker.
I want to say, yeah, Paul Walker, but who was the, who was his character?
I don't know.
You just Paul Walker.
Anyway, yeah, yeah.
He also had a really, really good spiral.
Okay.
He could fire that pig scan.
So I think you were like, all right, if you're going to get the chicks, you got to have a
good spiral.
Did you know, did you ever like look at your spiral and like, damn, like on tape, like
that thing is, that's tight.
No, I don't think, you know, it's funny.
It's a compliment.
Like I truly believe that the way you threw the ball, and it might have been the paint
from the, you know, how there's a little, you've told me that, the stripes on the collar.
I think you said that because of the college ball has extra strength.
It does enhance the ability of what the spiral looks like because you get the NFL, you really
can't sell it.
People are like, oh man, pay a man with those some spirals, but you slow that film down
a little bit.
I actually believe that I could identify your spiral.
If I was just like looking at a ball from that air, I could pick that apart from Peyton.
Peyton and McNabb would give me an issue.
They look too similar, a little wobbly at the end.
You're like a forensic spiral.
Yeah, a dexter of spirals.
If I killed someone with a football, you'd be like, yeah, I know that.
But isn't this a good legacy to have?
In your mind, yes.
I'm glad, I'm glad in your mind.
I think a lot of people agree with me that your spiral was cream of the crop.
It worked another day.
It didn't work so well in the NFL.
We'll get to that.
Yeah.
In your mind, what are the other spirals that stand out?
Because I remember, actually, this is going to bring up some bad memory for you, maybe.
Jamarcus Russell had a hell of a spiral in that bowl game against you.
I remember, so we trained together out in Arizona.
Well, I went and actually trained.
He would sometimes show up.
That was the first morning sign that I kind of saw.
I was like, all right, I'm supposed to be throwing to his wide receivers because how
it works is, you know, you get an agent, right?
That agent sometimes represents other players.
Well, when we were up training out in Arizona and athletes performance, all his wide receivers
were represented by his agent.
And so, you know, it's a bad look if the guy's not showing up and then I throw into his wide
receivers that are out there.
So I'd go out and throw those guys.
Sometimes they would be like, oh, no, Jamarcus will be here, he'll be here like two hours
later.
No, no, he'll eventually be here.
And then I'd end up just throwing to those guys.
So he did go out sometimes.
I was like, all right, get it.
Can't go out.
He's just going to go out through those guys.
I'd sit there and watch.
And I wasn't watching during the bowl game.
I tore my PCL.
I had bursitis in this knee.
So I was like trying to cover up with a sleeve and I got my knee drained at halftime.
So I really wasn't paying attention to that and we're going to ask it.
You're not making an excuse, by the way.
I just wanted to point that out.
No, no, no.
We're getting our ass kicked.
So I was more concerned with like, how can we not keep getting our ass kicked?
Right.
So I didn't really pay attention much to the game besides like looking up the scoreboard
after you hear a cheer in the crowd and you're like, OK, that's another touchdown.
So I watched him throw.
I was like, holy hell, that dude had the strongest arm I've ever seen.
Yeah.
Like I know you guys are big Josh Allen fans.
Yeah.
I'm a big Josh Allen fan.
Jamarcus Russell had a stronger arm than Josh Allen.
I believe it.
Yeah.
He threw, he hit the upright from 80 yards on his knee.
On his knee.
Yeah.
I actually also think you need to rebrand because we're going to get to the NFL and
how it didn't fully work out for you.
You need to rebrand when any anyone ever brings up the NFL.
Be like, well, that was Jamarcus Russell's draft because he went number one because
like you just if you just throw that out there, people are like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Right.
That's Jamarcus Russell's draft.
I don't know if that works out.
No, that does.
Listen, we know how this game works.
So you just keep saying that Jamarcus or Calvin Johnson.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Calvin.
He was a stud.
There was a lot of good guys.
There was a lot of good players in that draft.
Yeah.
Joe Thomas.
Joe Thomas.
He didn't even go to the draft.
Yeah.
Josh, he's fishing.
Which is the biggest BS.
I told him this.
So here's the deal, right?
He's a Wisconsin guy.
He's probably following it.
To take time to go out and actually fish.
They were like off a lake or whatever.
It happens so fast.
Right.
Cause like we got to the draft, right?
I was there in New York.
I was there for all like five hours or however long it took.
You get there.
Jamarcus went up pretty quick.
The Detroit Lions like really didn't hesitate.
And then Joe's getting the call, right?
There's no way that boat got that far off the dock before it came right back.
Right.
I just thought about it.
I was like, this had to have been staged.
Cause either A, you're getting so far out.
You don't have cell phone reception.
Or B, like it just, it wasn't going to time out.
It wasn't going to work.
So it, I know he like showed there was a fish.
I think he got it from like the supermarket.
Yeah.
They just put it on the boat.
And I was like, look at that.
Awesome.
They said, you know, you're going fishing with your dad.
It's not like he was in a canoe in a river somewhere.
He was like on a nice like quasi yacht.
With the video camera.
I haven't brought up any, you know, was it getting paid when is that Wisconsin?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And listen, he's a friend of the show, but I think that we owe it to journalism to dig
in a little bit deeper.
Okay.
Dig in really deep.
I have a question about Notre Dame for you have, you have a great Notre Dame name, right?
Right.
Brady Quinn.
I always assumed that the quarterback.
It's actually Braden.
My real name.
Braden.
Yeah.
I'm going to ignore that because millennial.
Follow along.
Yeah.
So Brady Quinn.
How old are you brother?
Oh, same age.
It was in class.
Yeah.
Oh, three.
Right.
Yeah.
When were you?
What?
High school.
What month were you born in?
I'm trying to figure out.
You're okay.
He's good.
We all see a lot of people who were born in 1985.
So we're really excited.
I was born in 84.
Oh, never mind.
Get out of here.
Yeah.
Out of the club.
Yeah.
So Brady Quinn.
Great Notre Dame name.
Sure.
Right.
Did you feel like a little bit upset when Mike McGlinche came along and now there's
like a bigger Notre Dame name?
Like he's such a good like dude.
And I said, like he literally is like a dude.
Yeah.
He's a guy that the first time I ever met him, I was like, I just want to have beers with
him.
Like I don't, I don't, he's a good football player, whatever.
He just seemed like one of those types of guys.
He just like wanted to be your offensive line.
Like he would have fit in great at Wisconsin, right?
Yeah.
He'd pump out those guys.
But yeah, it was a little bit unfortunate.
I mean, there's been some other, some other guys who've come along with the, the kind
of mic in their name or the O.
Our golden tape even.
Golden tape.
Amazing Notre Dame name.
Is it?
I mean, it's an amazing name in general.
I don't know.
Like he could play.
If your name's, well, I guess you're using the golden part.
Yeah.
Any, any of your gold, if you're, you know, gold in your name.
Did you play as yourself in NCAA football back in the day?
Honestly, I swear to you, I wasn't in the video games.
So I like, look, my dad wasn't Todd Marenevich and my parents were like, my dad was a former
Marine.
We were, it was a little bit more regent in our household.
They don't want to set up video games and all that.
So I never really got into it.
I was more of a, like I had kind of a dork in that regard.
Damn.
So you didn't get to play video games your whole like childhood.
And then you went to the NFL and didn't work out and now you're sitting here with us.
So who won?
We played a lot of video games.
We played a lot of video games.
Yeah.
You guys, big time.
Yeah.
I think you probably have a little bit more.
Yeah.
And you guys have been doing well, right?
We don't have NFL.
We don't have the first round.
Do you guys get equities?
Yeah.
But we don't have first round.
You don't have to talk about it.
No.
I mean, you got to equities, equity.
You get equities.
You get money.
Well, you guys are still a part of your equity.
No, we have not.
Oh, only Dave.
It's only Dave's one.
It's not real.
Yeah.
It's not real.
It's all like, it's in the cloud.
Are there bonus?
How does it work?
Yeah.
I mean, you know, they pay us money sometimes.
This is by far the most interesting part of podcast.
Once a year, once a year, I get a suitcase.
You're so uncomfortable.
You don't want to talk about it.
People will be like, what do they say?
Okay.
So they would, what do they say about money?
What do you know?
How much do they make?
We both make $75,000 per podcast.
Wow.
No, it's a joke.
Oh, so that's a lot of money.
Yeah.
It's actually like.
You guys have a great following though, right?
You guys have been making cash.
It's actually like $85,000, $90,000.
Yeah.
Now like.
Yeah.
I was rounding down, right?
Right.
Exactly.
Can I get one of those hats?
Do I get one of those?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You can absolutely have it.
Big cat's kind of like laying into a little bit about the like NFL thing.
Didn't pan out.
Yeah.
Definitely didn't work out.
I think it did work out.
You played.
Did you get a Super Bowl ring with Seahawks?
No.
Unfortunately.
Well, I wouldn't accept one anyways.
It wouldn't there for that.
That would be weird.
I'll say this much, dude.
I see why they're successful.
Honestly, it's given me a good perspective because, and maybe it's like this for the
company you work for, maybe not, but you go to certain places and you're like, all right,
they got their shit together.
This organization, this team, every single person on the same page, they know how to
do things right.
You go to other places and you're like, okay.
Browns.
Well, when, I would say this, my first couple years when I was there, I mean my rookie year
we went 10 and 6.
Yeah, that's right.
We had that sort of optimism going into year two, you know, a lot of the guys have played
really, really well.
The next year we had a bunch of guys that get banged up and I mean, myself included, DA
went on IR as well.
Ken Dorsey eventually went on IR.
I mean, you're playing with guys that you got off of the street.
So when you go 4-12, you're like, yeah, that's probably going to happen when you don't have
your, even your third string quarterback for the last five weeks or four weeks of the season,
whatever it is.
Right.
But so then once everyone gets fired, like the guy, like I wasn't a man genious dude.
Right.
And I kind of, I kind of knew that coming in.
So it becomes tough to survive when the guy who drafted you, who's a head coach or general
manager, isn't advocating for you.
Now, don't get me wrong.
Like I didn't play well enough during the course of my career.
You have to own up to that.
But like the best chances I could have had applying, I probably didn't get an opportunity
with some of those teams like Denver is a great team.
But you know, they gave Tim the opportunity, right?
Right.
That led to an AFC West championship.
It led to a first round win and all that.
And so like, you're not going to second guess that.
So you know, the situation circumstance definitely plays a part, but you know, but I mean, we're
obviously joking because you were, you were drafted in the NFL in the first round.
Like that is a success in itself and you were lasted for a very long time.
So I don't actually mean that you had to my wife says the same thing.
No, but it's, you know, it's a perspective thing.
Right.
No, but it's a perspective thing.
I got it.
I got it.
I, I get the sex jokes.
Yeah.
All right.
Do you?
Yes.
I get the sex jokes.
He's, he's got that mindset, but serious questions are like, what helps me feel more comfortable.
I don't know.
That's why I wore it.
It's like between two firms.
More people should.
Yeah.
More people should wear like those on a daily basis.
I'm saying like an office environment.
Yeah.
It makes me feel more comfortable.
What?
So what, what would you say?
I have ADHD, by the way.
What, what, what would, what was like the thing that maybe you wish you had back in
the NFL, uh, that could have had, you know, a sliding door situation where Brady Quinn
has a different career in the NFL.
That's a great question.
Um, thank you.
I don't know.
I mean, to be honest with you, like, as far as like the not playing as well as I could
have, like I wasn't a guy who, um, didn't work hard.
It didn't stay late and watch film and do all that kind of stuff.
I had some like unfortunate timing of injuries, right?
Right.
Um, like when I finally get to start my second year, I break, uh, the, my index finger.
And so we didn't find out about it's like that Wednesday.
So we one Monday night football, we beat the bills, um, and, and then like that next week
I could go to practice.
My, my both these fingers were really small and I'm like, trying to throw the football
and I'm like, dude, something's, something's off because I can't move my right index finger,
which obviously you need to throw a football right.
And so we go to, we go out to practice and then after practice, you know, my, my nails
all filled with blood.
So we're just like, all right, let's just drill through it and we'll let the blood out.
Maybe that'll feel better.
Yeah.
And so regular stuff.
Right.
Yeah.
So my, my trainers call me a, I'm not going to say exactly what I was saying, but he's
drilling through it.
I'm like, dude, you got through the nail.
There's no blood coming out.
Like something's wrong.
Like it's pretty painful.
He's like, you know, stop being a wuss, you know, suck it up.
So we go get X-rays and they figure out, um, this bone was broke and it ripped off a ligament.
So like basically this, this front bone was kind of floating.
And so they're like, let's try to play through it.
Uh, if not, we just, we'll get surgery after the game.
So try to play for the first half of Houston, Texas game.
Don't play very well.
I can't really control the football very well.
And they're like, Hey, let's just, let's just pull, pull the plug on this.
Um, and so that was like my shot to start on it.
It seemed like it was really good.
And at that point we were like four and six, they're still kind of in the hunt, even though
that season is not going great.
Uh, and then the rest of season's history and then our coaching staff, general manager,
manager gets fired, right?
Right.
The next year, get in there, new year, new system.
You get rid of Kellen Wenzel.
You trade away Braylon Edwards after like week three, four, something like that.
Uh, so you're relying on a lot of young players and you know, we played decent football at
the end of the year, right?
Have a Liz Frank, Liz Frank injury at the end.
Um, we finished, I think four and four on the last eight, you know, when the last four,
um, you know, man, G we go five, 11 by Manjini saves his job.
Uh, so they, they give me the advice of, um, you know, hey, you'd be better off casting
it, not getting surgery.
I'm probably gonna get surgery this year finally, but, uh, this year, like, yeah, because at
that point, the problem was, so they traded me to Denver, uh, that coach gets fired within
12 games, right?
So like any, anyone who's really an advocate for me, I never like, there's never any stability.
Right.
But then at that point, I had to play with it because I never felt like I had enough
time to have like a six month, eighth month of recovery where a team's going to trade
for me or sign me.
And I'll be like, okay, I can rehab, but then I can still provide my worth or show my value
in preseason, right?
Because once you're not the guy, like that preseason is like the Super Bowl.
And so if you're not there, not soon up for, you're probably not going to make a roster
spot.
So I'm finally now with a little more time, like able to actually get an operation, get
it done.
But you know, you have injuries or for starters, I didn't play well as I needed to.
You have a coach and general manager get fired and all that.
And then you've got injuries on top of that.
That's a terrible formula for sustaining yourself in the NFL.
But I mean, what you just said is interesting to me because we always, you know, the media,
we love the hot takes.
You love the knee jerk reactions, bust, whatnot, but when you actually explain it and how it
can almost spiral on you with new systems, injuries, like it all kind of makes sense.
Right.
I mean, the harder thing I always try to explain to people with new systems is if you're not
like Peyton Manning or like Aaron Rodgers, for example, right?
Like he's, Matt LaFleur is coming in there, but they're going to run the same terminology
that he's custom playing with.
Right.
Matt LaFleur is not bringing a system saying, here's the playbook, Aaron.
You know, it's probably going to be the other way around if anything as far as what
they're going to do.
If you're not that guy, you've got an OC coming in who's saying, here's a new playbook.
And that's like saying, like you guys do this interview in Spanish, I don't think either
one of you are bilingual.
Lo santo.
Lo santo.
Lo santo.
Thank you.
The bueno.
Do you know Spanish?
No.
Piquito?
That's probably why I didn't make it in the NFL.
Exactly.
Which, by the way, that's like the tagline of the AAF, right?
Like every time you watch that game, you know, there's like some jerk somewhere saying like,
didn't catch the football.
That's why I didn't make it in the NFL.
Right.
Like through an interception.
But there's so much more involved.
That's why I didn't make it in the NFL.
Right.
And what you explained, there's so much more involved.
Right.
It's almost, there's obviously skill, but there's also a lot of luck, I'm assuming.
Like, you know, if you don't.
Yeah.
If you fall in the right situation.
Right.
Well, and then I've told this story before.
I mean, Baltimore, I was speaking with them, the majority of that 22nd pick.
So like the green room's been well documented.
I was there for a long, long time.
And because the draft, those picks were longer in between.
And so I was talking the whole 22nd pick for like the 15 minutes or whatever it was
then maybe 20 minutes.
I'm not sure what it was.
And I was talking with Ozzie Newsom, Brian Billick, Rick Newheisle, and they're getting
to know me because we had no communication in the process.
And they're trading with Kansas City of 23.
So I'm like, I'm thinking I'm going to Baltimore.
And I'm at that point, you're kind of like riding off the Cleveland Browns.
You're like, I'm going to kick their ass every time I play him twice a year.
And then Cleveland calls because, you know, they already passed on me and you're like
childhood dream to play it for you.
Right.
And so you're kind of writing them off.
Those little motions there.
But then you get a call from them and they're like, no, no, no, we're trading with Dallas
to get 22.
And you're just like, nearly swelling yourself.
Someone's pulling you on stage to shake Roger Goodell's hand and like, you're just trying
to hold, you're trying to hold back too.
Joe Thiesman got mad at you.
Yeah.
Right.
Because he had the long hair which.
In the gum.
I think it's fair.
Did you apologize to Joe?
I did.
I did.
I apologized to Joe.
I sent him some of us in the prostate medicine he tries to use because he goes to the bathroom
a lot.
Yes.
Yes.
We sent him some of that.
Sometimes intentionally.
That was, I mean, that's a bullshit thing to get mad at someone who's like realizing
their dream.
But the shaggy hair was kind of in that.
It was so it.
That was your haircut.
You were the guy.
You could have gotten on you about the shaggy haircut, like prior to the night of the draft.
Right.
There was multiple occasions where you could have been upset about it before.
That was like two days Laguna Beach, the Hoover High, the Swoop.
Like that was it.
Right.
Yeah.
It actually wasn't.
That's not a Hoover.
It was all like everyone wanted that hair.
Right.
And to be the quarterback.
Yeah.
I always remember you on draft night.
You were you were a big flip phone guy.
You were all over that flip phone.
Well, I think it was because my agent was like trying to make sure he thought I was
like going to fire him.
I'm like, dude.
Yeah.
It's completely out of your control.
Like, like, who like, I didn't know this was going to be the case or this is how the
draft is going to go.
Why would I fire you because of the decision that teams make?
I mean, I don't know.
Anyway.
So he was, we were talking to him, some other people off the Jay Glaser actually called
it by the way.
Jay is the one that texted me like after the dolphins passed a nine.
Jay texted me.
He's like, Hey, Cleveland's going to draft you.
I'm just telling you right now.
And so I didn't believe it was going to happen until that actually did happen because I again,
I thought it was going to be going to be Baltimore.
Right.
Jay's always right about these.
But to go back to that, like how I ended up in Baltimore, flak winds are getting drafted
next year there.
I think, I mean, it's a stable situation.
They have a great defense, a good running game.
Good.
I mean, it's been a more of a stable, consistent place to play quarterback.
So, you know, you always, you always wonder because of how that draft they went, like
what would have been like had you been there and had a little bit more out around you and
a little more stability to see if things would have worked out.
Right.
Do you think there was even a little bit additional pressure on you going to a team that you like
grew up watching that you wanted to play for?
Yeah, but it was probably because I put that pressure on myself.
Like if there was one thing I could go back over and do again, it would have been not,
not allowing that to get the best of me at times because I think when things didn't tend
to work out, it was frustrating because you're like, dude, I grew up with brown stuff in my
room and everything up there.
And so you're like, people are telling you, you're going to be the savior, you're going
to be the guy, you know, that stuff.
And it's like at some points, you know, at 22 years old, you know, I don't know that
even plan another day.
I'm like, I don't know that I was prepared to like live out that dream.
Like I dreamt the dream, but then it's like at that point, once you, once that dream occurs,
that's like, oh, oh, shit, this is reality.
Right.
Like now it's like, now what is your plan?
And so like handling that, like I think that's probably one thing that I didn't allow myself
to, to play as free, probably at times play too tight or put too much in that moment or
too much pressure on it because of that.
Cause that was always lingering in the back of my mind.
You should have just done a press conference at a boys and girls club and gone to Miami
for a few years and come back.
You know what the crazy thing about that is, is technically I bought a place down in South
Florida before that happened.
So I had already taken my talents to South and that was due to other reasons, but yeah.
So besides the fact that Notre Dame used to grow their grass out like way too tall, so
the opponents get slowed down in it.
You've been on that field before.
You guys have probably broken it.
Well they changed it now.
Yeah.
It's turf now.
Yeah.
It's turf now, but I mean back when like USC was coming into town, we talked to Matt
Liner about it.
Yeah.
We know.
He was like, he grew it to about six inches.
What's the logic in that?
Like if they're that much faster, like, oh, it slows them down.
It makes us really slow.
I asked him that too and we just agreed that we didn't know the answer, but it was still
cheating.
I think it just gets in your head.
Yeah.
I don't think it stopped Reggie.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
So besides that one little detail, what was the biggest change for you in terms of like
the offense that you were running going from Notre Dame to the NFL?
I'll be for starters, the terminology is different, right?
So we went to Rob just in, excuse the OC ran like a digit system.
So instead of saying like, I'm trying to give you an example, the easiest example would
be like this.
What would it be in the?
I like this.
This is going to be some big quarterback talk right now.
No stuff.
Let's go.
Not really.
So it'd be like.
So we'll ride 134, go my middle, something like that, right?
Got it.
And then in his terminology, be something like I write act for 989, right?
So just same play, different terminology, right, depending on who's calling it.
So, you know, the terminology was different.
And then actually there was less control for the quarterback.
So in Charlie's system, all we watched was New England film.
Everything was like what they were doing.
So you control everything.
You control where the lines going, where the protection is all that kind of stuff.
When I got there, they wanted to take that kind of off of Derrick Anderson shoulders,
my shoulders, Kandorsi.
That was the other quarterback was there.
So the center controlled it and then you could like override.
But when you get allowed, like you go to Pittsburgh and you're sitting back in shotgun
and there's a running back next to you.
He's like, who was the idea?
You're like, I don't know.
Like then it's hard to communicate when you can't control.
And ultimately you're the guy that needs to know because if someone blitzes and you don't
know he's coming, you're getting your head knocked off.
Right.
What's your memory from the Bush push game?
We had Matt Lauer.
He explained the thing that he talked about that I think a lot of people forget is that
drive.
I think it was like fourth and what 11 or something when he made that passage, Wayne
Jarrett and leading up to that because the game was basically over there.
Did you ever think about like filing paperwork about them breaking the rules or anything
like that?
No, no.
It's legal now.
Well, I mean, in an appeal process, I would, I'm big time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe, maybe, um, what I remember the touchdown that I scored to go ahead, I
honestly thought I was like just short.
I thought maybe my knee was down before the ball broke the plane.
So, and like, and that was what I kind of thought.
And then they called it a touchdown.
We didn't have replay then.
Right.
So the way team got to choose whether or not they want to replay back then.
And Pete Carroll chose not to have replay.
So I was thinking to myself as like after everything was over, like, man, I wish I would have been
down short because you'd be on the one inch line and run the clocks running and you would
have scored a good touchdown.
They don't have any time.
Uh, that was one of my first thoughts.
The other thing was, is like, everyone talks about the Bush post play, the play before
that Matt fumbled while he was in bounds, ball went out of bounds.
Clock shouldn't stop.
And, and that's where like the clock didn't stop.
It ran off.
People rushed the field and then they stopped it to figure out the spot.
It was a terrible spot as it was.
Yeah.
And then they put time back on the clock and it really gave them a time out.
Right.
And so I was sitting there.
Right.
Like there's not much you can do about it.
It was just, uh, I mean, look, I would have, I would have hoped Darius Walker would have
pushed me, you know, in the end zone, if I can get in anyway, I just came down for Matt
doing too much yoga.
Yeah.
Right.
And surfing instead of like, I have told him this to the day.
Yeah.
What was Charlie look like as a coach?
Did you ever meet self-wago?
His parents?
No, I didn't know he actually had a parent.
So you guys, we uncovered it.
Yeah.
And I called him.
How Rudolph told us about it.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah.
How Rudolph told us about it.
It goes to show you how he opened up after I left.
Yeah.
Um, no, he didn't really talk to you read between the lines here.
Yeah.
He really, really, really don't know a man's parent and how close are you?
Right.
That could be a metaphor for a lot of things.
Right.
Um, no.
So I, uh, yeah.
I mean, he, he's like a polar opposite in the way he talks to you compared to like Ty
Willingham's who I went to coach for, uh, but it helped kind of motivate me in all that
side.
I wasn't really bothered by it.
Um, you know, he used a little bit of profanity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was very focused in there and so he strikes me as a coach that would like shower with
the team.
Uh, no, no.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
I don't, I don't actually remember a coach ever showering with the team.
I ain't got a shower discipline like who's a Derek Dooley?
He got mad at Tennessee cause they got too many staff infections.
Yeah.
You have to tell them how to, how to shower themselves.
Well that was the story of the Cleveland Browns.
There was a, yeah, that's right.
That's right.
So what was that they brought in like a hazmat team to clean out the locker room.
That was that?
And they were like remodeled it, which I mean at that point, I mean, does it live in the
walls as a not?
Yeah.
bit, then they took out the carpet.
There's a lot of different things going on there.
That's very trusting to let the medical staff just drill into your finger.
Just like in on the right, especially considering like it could have
and in retrospect, I wasn't even thinking about that.
So yeah, you had other concerns, right?
Look at some, you know, pretty funny teammates, right?
Yes. Yes.
Do you are you on the council of Notre Dame guys that gets to determine
when Urban Meyers is coming to coach?
Great question. What's the over under that?
If it's like, it's like you.
I'm pretty sure it's like you, Joe Thysman,
um, probably the whole Golic family has like a
I'd say so.
That annoyance.
They actually have four votes.
Yeah, each one.
Yeah.
The white smoke comes out.
Yeah.
Right.
Their plugs have votes.
Yeah, their plugs start exhaling white smoke.
But seriously, though, like Urban Meyer,
he's going to be the next coach in Notre Dame, right?
Um, first off, Brian Keller's done a really good job.
Yes.
So I'm not sure why we're moved.
He just took the team in the college football playoff.
So I'm not sure why.
Are we remembering that or are we trying to forget that?
I mean, look, I would have said we're going to try to
forget it until we watch Alabama get absolutely
mopped up.
No, no, no, no.
Point.
Maybe it wasn't that bad.
Good point.
Jamarcus Russell draft kind of theory there.
That's your theory.
That's your theory.
I have nothing to do with that.
No, you just get people to remember different things.
Right.
Yeah.
Gosh.
I remember I went out and visited the Raiders
and like Lane Kiffin was that coach at the time.
I was like, Hey, I just want you to know,
we're not going to draft you or we're probably going
to take Jamarcus, but it's cool meeting you.
I respect you a lot.
We play against you.
Thanks for coming out for the visit.
I was like, sweet.
Cool.
I had a four or five hour flight.
I went to eat with some guy at lunch.
I'm sitting and he was talking to me.
I was like, why aren't we even talking?
Like your head coach just told me you're not drafting.
Right.
I remember Al Davis too.
He did not look good then, but no.
Yeah.
Mark Davis looks great now.
So he does.
He does.
Oh, he's always looking great.
You guys are the same bar.
I like how you just changed the subject from Urban Meyer though.
Yeah.
Right.
That was a good year of professional.
My mind wandered a little bit only because I was,
I don't even know how we get on that subject.
Yeah, Urban Meyer.
But you like him as a head coach, right?
Yeah.
Of course.
He's one of the greatest of all time in college.
That's the headline right there.
So do you, do you think this last?
The funny thing is, it is going to be a headline.
Brady Quinn says greatest of all time.
Who wouldn't want Urban Meyer?
Great head coach.
Tebow Mania.
I want to talk about Tebow Mania real quick.
Was there a moment in time where you were like,
what the fuck is going on?
Oh, yeah.
This really is a higher power.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll never forget Lonnie Pax on our long snapper,
who is not a man of religion.
I'm not sure if he is now.
It wasn't then.
He walked over to me, I think after the New York Jets run,
when it was Blitz zero.
Yep.
Technically the defender he made miss is the guy
who should make the plan tackle him.
And Tony Cremarni is covering someone in the end zone.
He wanted no part of it.
Getting off the water.
So you were trying to make a tackle.
Tim runs in, go ahead, score, right?
Lonnie walked down to me.
I was like, this is a higher power.
He's like, I believe in God now.
I believe there's a God.
Mary and Barbara play was the start of it.
He doesn't.
Right.
Yeah.
Which you'd be a Chicago fan.
He just goes down and T-Bow Mania probably never happened.
I mean, there were things that happened that you could only
describe as miraculous.
Right.
I mean, for example, we're playing Minnesota.
Again, like crazy sort of stuff.
We're getting beat, come down at the, by the way,
defense was amazing that year.
Good running game.
And so I think that game was a little closer,
but we ended up like tying it up.
And Christian Ponner gets the ball on like the,
they're minus 20.
You're thinking not much time left, right?
They're probably going to run the clock out,
play for every time, whatever happens.
They're at home.
Right.
He throws one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen.
Christian Ponner, no.
Yeah.
And I'm sitting there thinking like, how is this possible?
Right.
Like he, it was almost like he meant to throw it to him.
And then we line up for a kick to win it.
So it's, it was, it was an incredible run.
Yeah, it was.
It was definitely one of those runs where you just had to
sit back and be like, I, no one can explain what's happening.
Well, okay.
Matt Prater happened.
That's what happened.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He, he's got a big leg.
Yes.
Yeah.
But it was, the whole thing was crazy.
So, and, and the weird thing was, so like Kansas City,
he completed it.
It was like two for eight.
And I think, well, I don't know if he had a touchdown pass
or not.
No, he had a, he had like, it was like two for eight with
like two touchdown passes.
Yeah.
Like a touchdown pass, right?
It was like ridiculous, right?
But the crazy thing about that was this happened in 2011.
And so in 2009, like I get benched by Manjini.
They put in Derek Anderson and he, they put him in like
half time at the Baltimore game play on the road.
He threw like three picks into the second half.
So the next week, I'm like, okay, like they benched me
about, I'm going to get to go in, right?
Cause I threw like one pick, one bad decision.
Wasn't that bad in the beginning of the game.
He had a really bad half.
They're like, no, he's starting for this week.
I was like, you got to be shitting me.
Okay.
You know, so be it.
Don't want to be a bad teammate.
So he goes in and he went two for 14 with the interception.
We win that game six to three.
Roscoe Parrish drops a punt and minus territory.
And so I ended up being the only player, not quarterback,
the only player in NFL history to be on two separate rosters
that has a quarterback that completed two passes
and won those games.
That's great.
That's right.
These are great facts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a hell of a trivia question.
Yeah.
That was McDaniels and Denver, right?
So, so McDaniels drafted Tim, but his intentions, like, I
don't think we're ever really having to be a quarterback
right away.
Like it was supposed to be a wildcat, kind of like what
they don't want to take some hill.
Yeah.
Like Josh McDaniels is doing that stuff and trying to do
that before anyone else.
Now, so a short yardage goal line and then like wildcat to
mix in, right?
And then, and then maybe he could develop over time, right?
Because just his, his throwing motion was too long.
That's what he'd do to use a first round pick on a guy like
that.
Right.
But I don't know.
Maybe there was a little gamesmanship with New England.
They were kind of convincing him or someone had said that
maybe they were going to take him.
Also, T-Bow was awesome.
Interesting.
So, so Belichick was like putting the, he's like whispering
like, Hey, I really like this T-Bow guy.
Be real shame if he was off the board.
Yeah, but look, but here's the thing until his own guy.
The guy was one of the most successful players
in college for sure.
Yes.
So at the same time, you're probably thinking like,
Okay, that's going to be the case.
He's a winner in the, it was the whole thing with his
mechanics.
Remember, he was reinventing himself.
Which look at that point, like, come on, man, Byron
left, it's played in the NFL.
Right.
Like he had the same throwing motion.
That didn't change.
Right.
Let the kid be what it is.
But do you remember that?
Like the whole thing, like he was going to,
it was like wanting a clock.
It was a long motion.
Right.
And he did that whole hype video and like there was,
I think ESPN followed him around how he's getting his
motion fixed and all that.
Now, I remember when they were out there with Tom
House and all that.
Cause I was rehabbing my bag at a back surgery.
And so I went out to kind of consult with those guys
and he was out there throwing.
They're like, yep, fixed it.
And I was like, that looks like the same
throwing motion.
I was like, I don't think you're getting rid of that.
But this is the theme perception.
Right.
You just tell everyone that it's fixed.
It's fixed.
They're like, damn, that looks fast.
We'll get some looks.
Let's get them in here.
It's one of those things where you can try to
shorten it, but if you've been playing for so long,
once you get into a game and there's somebody
that's trying to tackle you, you're going to do
the thing where you dip it down below.
And the problem is like the biggest thing is like,
if no one told him his throwing motion was messed up,
he probably throw the ball with so much more confidence.
Like what happened with him is everyone started doubting
him and his ability to like actually be accurate
and then make the right decision.
So that probably got in his head.
And then all of a sudden like you can't avoid it.
Like you're hearing everyone say how inaccurate you are.
And you can work on it and do as many reps as you want.
But if you're already thinking that before you throw
the football game over, right?
And so I'm sure it aided his confidence,
whether he would have wanted to admit it or not.
At some point.
And so many people try to tinker with it too.
That you're just like, yeah, just let the kid play
and let's see what happens.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's talk about your third, what is it?
Third and goal.
Third and goal foundation, yeah.
Foundation.
So you're doing great work.
You were just telling us before we started,
you have gotten a scholarship for the first.
Can I explain it?
Yeah.
So what we do is we make homes
handicap accessible for winter veterans.
That's how we started.
And you know, my dad being a veteran is a Marine,
fought in Vietnam.
He's also a home builder.
So it was like a natural segue of back in 2010
when we started it, you had guys coming back
from Iraq and Afghanistan,
they were facing catastrophic injuries, right?
And, you know, there's support for them.
But then there's like, okay, if they happen
to be missing an arm or leg,
like they have those sorts of difficulties
when they come back.
Like who's there to help them then?
Like when they go into civilian life
with like everyday things,
like do they have a wheelchair ramp for them?
Do they have handicap accessible bathroom,
bedroom, kitchens, all that stuff.
So, you know, it was like what we thought,
like, all right, this is how we can help.
And it was just me and him, I would fund it.
And we would just try to do, you know,
help out one veteran and then until we could build it up.
So we ended up kind of starting a fundraising event
through this golf tournament called the Blue Jacket.
So it's kind of like the masters,
we give away a blue jacket for basically the guy
that will put it this way,
like looks like he's having the most fun.
Right.
So like the first year, I'll put it this way,
someone put a golf cart in a pond.
And so that guy was the winner.
Easy winner.
It's my kind of golf tournament.
Exactly, right?
Like ton of fun, could never go back to that golf course.
And also, he's the only family member
who's a professional athlete that plays football.
So I won't name names, won't name names,
but I'll put it that way.
Yeah, leading tackle, community practice history.
So that kind of created a buzz about it.
And so like it's organically and actually kind of dope.
A.J., I'm putting the golf cart into water.
Right, right.
It's really marketing.
People were like, that sounds like a fun golf tournament.
So every year it's continued to build.
And then as we started to do more projects for veterans
in Central Ohio and in Ohio, we kind of realized too,
like one of our biggest things was like,
we wanted to help out with veterans
who are battling homelessness.
Well, one of the ways you counteract that is,
as they transition from service,
you find them at a point where, okay,
let's figure out like why more veterans
aren't like finishing their education
or getting their education.
So we partner with Notre Dame.
We provide a program, a two week program in the summertime
for them where vets go back to,
there's an application process.
And they basically go through a course
that kind of helps them re-adapt in civilian life,
go to school, finish school, whatever the case may be.
So we partner with the University of Notre Dame for that.
And then we provide a scholarship now
for a veteran who kind of fits the criteria.
And so right now we've got a guy named Brian Duffy,
who is a former Navy SEAL.
And he's going to be the oldest and he's,
he's going to be a walk-on for the Notre Dame football team,
but maybe the oldest in Notre Dame history.
That's awesome.
So it's pretty sick.
Really like this absolute stud.
Yeah, Navy SEAL.
When did the Disney movie come out?
Have they already bought the rights to it?
Tony Danes and I like it.
You guys, you guys might have the first mover advantage.
I just found out it was about like 60 minutes ago.
Walberg.
Definitely Walberg.
Well, you think he's going to take it?
We'll get a touch with him.
He'll probably start it too.
He's a friend of ours.
Yeah.
Have you guys been to Walbergers?
No, but we've had Walberg on the show.
Yeah.
He's starting down my nose.
No, no, he's awesome.
Yeah.
But like the burger place is not good.
Ooh.
Okay.
I didn't like him saying that.
You're starting a war with a very powerful man.
No, I'm just saying like, he's like first off.
He's going to write you out of his movie.
You can't borrow Walbergs.
I'm not getting in that movie.
Well, like Donnie.
Well, first off, everyone loved Entourage.
I was based on him.
Yes.
He's a good actor.
I would just say, you know.
But it's burgers.
I didn't like the burgers.
That's fine.
That's fine.
It was just a bad experience.
I went to one in Orlando.
I was like, yeah, that's not a problem.
Just in your Orlando restaurant.
Pretty much.
Yeah, in general.
You're asking for it.
But yeah, anyway, so it's 3NG.com.
That's our website.
Educational programs for veterans.
That's awesome.
I like that.
That is going to be a very cool story, though.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Like the oldest vlogger I've known.
How old is he again?
Gosh, he's in his 30s now.
So I believe he's close to my age.
This is like Rudy again.
Like he's going to get in and get a sack.
Right.
Yeah.
And the crazy thing is people realize that Rudy actually
served and then came back.
Yeah.
OK.
People didn't realize that.
I'm a little pissed off.
It's a great story to everything.
But I'm going to have to be watching this on E60
every single weekend without football for the next 20 years.
But hold on, PFT.
We can be the hipsters of it and be like,
we knew about it before everyone else.
Yeah, but still.
Mm-hmm.
We did.
We knew about it literally before everyone else.
Tom Rinaldi is going to be narrating this.
It'll make me cry.
As I'm in the nursing home.
No, it's going to happen.
You've been holding that for like this whole time.
Yeah, his arm.
You're going to be tired.
You're going to be tired, James.
Yeah, I was just saying.
All right, we'll wrap up.
How do you guys handle this?
Like just listen to these guys every day.
Yeah, it's tough.
We'll wrap up here.
All right, so it's.
Are you guys sharing that bed, by the way?
No, it looks like there's like multiple people sleeping.
No, it's just my room.
Oh, you kind of bother them.
We have a bunch of.
Do you have like high points?
Like what?
Can I say what's all you're saying?
Or is that?
Yeah, no, you can say it.
You'll be gone by the time this airs.
Yes, you were probably never going to air this.
So my last question.
Not enough quick.
Seeky question.
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Go see Brian Duffy play.
Yeah, well, next year, you're going to have to like,
well, yeah, no, he's going to play.
All right.
If Brian Kelly has a heart, he's going to play.
And if Urban Meyer fixes his heart.
It took Rudy a few years.
Like make that happen.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Seeky question.
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Have you forgiven your sister for wearing the split shirts?
The famous for people who don't know.
I wonder where that is right now.
AJ Hawk is Brady's brother-in-law, married to your sister,
and he she showed up to the bowl game.
Fiesta Bowl, yeah.
Fiesta Bowl with a split Ohio State.
Which by the way,
she could credit for being like the first person
to make that like a thing.
I think so.
She was the first person that I saw her.
I think so.
I've asked people that only because I asked her,
I was like, where'd you come up with this idea?
And she was like, because like back then,
like Nellie was like very famous.
Yep.
Very popular, right?
And I think she was like, I saw a split jersey
on like one of the rap videos.
She was like, why can't I do that with male,
my boyfriend and which was people don't realize
like they got engaged like soon after that.
Right.
Well, yeah.
I mean, she wore the split jersey.
That is she did.
She did admit she was like,
and now granted we lost,
but she was like in retrospect,
she's like, I kind of feel like if you guys would have won,
I wouldn't have felt as bad for AJ.
I felt bad for you.
So she's like, I probably should have just
wanted to know her name just because he would have understood.
Right.
Right.
But that was, yeah.
So you have you forgiven her?
Forgiving her.
I don't know that I really like cared.
I just remember she got more like FaceTime than any of us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like literally more people will see her and be like,
hey, I remember you from the Fiesta Bowl.
What jersey?
Like she's like famous for that.
Yeah.
So we always like, because like my brother-in-law is Jack Johnson,
right?
He plays hockey for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
AJ obviously played for the Green Bay Packers.
Great career.
And then my sister was actually probably,
my little sister was like probably as talented as anyone.
And so we always like rank like celebrity status like in the family
amongst like the kids.
And like Laura always is like, well,
people do recognize her a lot for the Fiesta Bowl.
So she like kind of ranks up there a little bit.
Well, it's weird because she keeps wearing the split jersey to this day.
No, I don't recognize her.
So that was the wedding?
No, people always just said, oh, yeah.
I saw you in the split jersey.
ABC put her on like the entire time.
Was Brent Musburger announcing?
Of course.
Yeah, of course.
But at least he didn't creep out on that one.
That's true.
He died her.
I think he was scared at AJ at that time.
Yeah, wait, we all were.
PFT has so many questions.
We all were.
Aren't you married to Lisa Sacramento?
I am.
Which, and so like people are always like,
she's a gold medalist.
How do you feel about being the worst athlete in your family?
I'm like, pretty much am.
Yeah, pretty much am.
Because like, for sure, she was a stud.
Before Simone Biles, like she had the most international medals
of any gymnast.
So she's incredible, dude.
Like she's.
You guys are going to have like a million,
like between AJ.
We've got two girls right now.
Yeah, but like your whole family, extended family is just
going to have athletes everywhere.
Yeah, but the funny thing is like,
if we ever did a reality TV show,
the best characters would be Chopper for sure.
Yeah, and then Peg, my grandmother,
who is like is a character like she like those two characters
would like dominate the reality TV show.
All right, let's do it.
Yeah.
They don't pay enough for the pilot season.
No, they don't.
They don't.
They wait till you like you go on TV
and then they re up.
Yeah, exactly.
Very Cavalieri season two.
That's a plug.
Is that a, I've only seen snippets of it.
Jay's awesome.
He's awesome.
Yeah, he's great.
He is the quintessential Jay.
Yeah.
Just not caring about it.
As Jay as Jay could be.
That's him.
That is him.
All right, Brady Quinn.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate this.
Long overdue.
Good to finally have you on.
It's good to finally meet PFT.
Yeah.
Next year we'll do Exxonost.
See him without sunglasses.
So that's interesting.
Yeah.
Saw the eyes.
Circle of trust.
What do you think of the eyes?
Beautiful.
I kind of got lost in them for a little bit.
Go on.
Yeah.
I mean, I got lost in them for a little bit.
You didn't have a hat on either,
which was other than you see the long flowing hair.
Yes.
And so I immediately came back to like the Thysman moment.
I was like, but it's just.
I'm looking unprofessional.
No, no.
I didn't think that.
I was like, it brought me back to the moment.
I was like, I dig it, man.
Yeah.
But this is good because next year you can come on in the fall
and we do Exxonost.
We don't have to talk about all the other things.
Yeah.
All right.
Good time.
Thank you, Brady.
Appreciate it.
You made it.
It's time, man.
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And now for something completely different.
Okay, we now welcome on Alex Arma.
He is the fullback for the Carolina Panthers.
And he's been in the news somewhat recently.
So we're going to maybe air this in Mount Rushmore season,
but we got to start by talking about what happened with you,
basically citizen arresting guy, someone.
Like that's everyone's dream.
Yeah, I mean, dude tried to get in my car, man.
I called him.
And so walk us through it.
So you're just at home, minding your own business.
Yeah, so I'm chilling in my apartment, minding my business.
And I recently purchased this dash cam, out cam.
And everything is connected from the app on your phone to the camera.
So I get this notification saying there's an event in progress.
And I look on the still frame and somebody in my car.
I'm like, this is crazy.
So adrenaline kicks in.
That's when I go down there and bust them.
That's crazy.
So you put them in an arm bar, right?
Yeah.
Did he tap?
How did you know to stop with your arm bar?
Uh, really, the guy that was recording, if you see the video,
the concierge, he was just like, don't do it, man.
Don't do it.
And the dude, I mean, he couldn't take much of it.
He was just complaining.
He started just really, you know what I'm saying?
Wanting, making up excuses.
This guy's breaking my arm.
Yeah.
Did you, did you, were you willing to break his arm?
Because that's a true arm bar.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
I was definitely willing to break his arm.
Yeah.
But he basically was like, stop and cry.
He basically verbally tapped.
Yeah.
He verbally tapped, but that didn't stop me.
It was just like, you know what I'm saying?
I already got him.
I don't want to make it worse.
You know what I'm saying?
Dude is like, our concierge is like, don't, don't do it, man.
Don't make it worse and stuff like that.
We were saying that you did him a favor, actually,
because he drives a Dodge Hellcat, which is like a crazy,
it's a car designed by an insane person.
It's got what, 700 horsepower, something like that.
So if the dude had actually ended up stealing the car,
he probably would erect it within the first quarter mile.
Oh, damn.
I'm looking at it right now.
It matters.
Yeah, I thought, I read something when they first came out.
A lot of people were wrecking them.
Yeah.
Because of the power they were putting down.
It's insane.
It's like not, it's not really even a car.
It's basically a rocket with four tires.
Okay.
So I mean, yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
That is a hell of a car.
So is this like, I mean, as a fullback,
this is basically the most like fullback move you can do
is seeing someone trying to steal your car and just arm bar.
I guess so.
He like, I didn't go down there and choke slim.
Yeah.
Right.
Blow him up.
A wide receiver calls the cops.
Oh, 100%.
Yeah.
Right.
Quarter make wide out.
Yeah, one quarter make they call the cops.
They go to their like panic room and just start freaking out.
Christian McCaffrey would have called you.
Right.
Right.
And like, hey, man, there's a guy breaking into my truck.
Yeah.
So, all right.
So before we do the Mount Rushmore of fullbacks,
I had one other question for, so you're on the Panthers.
Have you figured out what Cam Newton's hieroglyphics are like?
Like, have you, have you deciphered it?
Can you read his language?
Uh, based off some group chats and, um,
He doesn't, wait, he's like that on text?
I think Greg Olson.
Yeah.
He definitely texts like that.
Yeah.
Everything you see online, that's how he texts outside of that too.
What the hell?
He texts like that 24 seven.
I've never seen him text outside of that.
Have you asked him why?
Nah, I mean, Cam is just Cam.
So whatever he do, I'm like, all right, whatever, we're gonna roll with it.
So I think Greg Olson gave the exact same answer.
Yeah.
Like the exact same answer.
So do you understand it now?
You do?
Yeah, I caught on.
You know what I'm saying?
The first time I saw it, I was like, bro, why are you texting like this?
You know what I'm saying?
But that's just how, how he texts.
Yeah.
That's what he does.
So, yeah.
I saw that you were, you were all conference
offense and defense in college.
Oh yeah.
Would you play for defense?
Shout out West Georgia.
Yeah, shout out West Georgia.
Uh, very, we love, we love West Georgia.
Yeah, we love our house.
So, uh, I started off going to college as a linebacker.
And then eventually I switched it in with a new coaching staff.
My res or sophomore year.
And then my senior year is when I started playing both ways.
But it was nothing new to me.
I did it in high school.
So it was kind of natural for me to go back on offense.
So from there, I mean, my coaches just used me in the right way
and I was able to take off.
So it worked out.
So you just like hitting people.
Doesn't matter where you are on the field.
You just want to hit somebody.
That's true football play.
We call it horny for contact.
Yeah.
Human body craves contact.
Jim Marba taught us that.
He taught us that.
Yeah, it's true.
Horny for contact.
If you want to hit.
All right.
Let's do, uh, have you prepared at all?
Did they prep you that we're going to do Mount Rushmore full backs?
They told me like a few minutes ago.
Okay.
So we'll let you go first or do you want to go third?
So you can go twice.
So it goes snake draft.
So like if we go, if you go third, it would be one, two,
and then you get two picks in a row.
Tell you what, we'll let you go first since you're the guest.
I think that's the fair thing.
Okay.
We'll let you go first and then it'll go you, big cat, me,
and then me, big cat, you, you, big cat, me, me, big cat, you.
We'll explain it as we go along.
We always get, we, we kind of screwed up ourselves.
Okay.
All right.
So you go with the first pick.
Some people might argue, but Mike also does.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the easy, easy first pick.
The A train.
That's a great first pick.
You see that, that highlight reel that got released on Twitter
like a couple of weeks ago.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's insane.
I mean, just hitting people in his feet real quick too.
Yeah.
All right.
So I'll go all the time, neck roll too.
I'll go with one of the best full backs of all time.
Dallas Cowboys, Daryl Johnson.
Loose number one overall.
Yeah.
I just want to enter with that.
Yeah.
All right.
It's full backs.
There's not a lot of, there's tons of them.
Okay.
I disagree.
All right.
John Kuhn.
Okay.
He's going to be first off the board for me.
Oh wow.
Like he won one Super Bowl.
Well, he played, if you look at who he played with,
his quarterbacks, Ben Rottlesberger, Aaron Rodgers, Brett
Farve, and Drew Brees.
There's an argument to be made that the full back makes the
quarterback.
Got it.
Also, he's the all time leader in full back wins.
That's your first pick?
Yep.
John Kuhn.
Number one.
Number two, I'm going to take Lorenzo Neal.
Okay.
Another all time neck roll guy right there.
Block for LT.
He had, he started the music city miracle.
All right.
I will go with my second pick.
I will go with refrigerator Perry, played full back.
Did line up as a full back.
That counts.
Touchdown, Vulture.
Yes.
Exactly.
That definitely counts.
Enormous, enormous man.
Revolutionized football by just not letting Walter Payton
score in the Super Bowl.
I got you.
My next pick is going to have to go.
I'm going to have to go with Vontae Leach.
Ooh, that's a good pick.
Do you have two now?
True full back.
Yep.
Yep.
And I mean, he opened holes.
Yep.
He got you on his back.
Yep.
But next, my next one was going to be John Kuhn.
So Green Bay, and then the way it goes to you.
No, you got one more.
You got, you have one more now.
OK.
Jim Brown.
OK, that works.
Yeah, he was a full back.
He was a full back.
All right.
I'll go with one old school guy as well.
One of the all time football names, Bronco Nagersky.
That is like the best football name of all time.
So that's my next pick.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
All right.
For my next one, I am going to go with Christian Nequay,
Nigerian nightmare.
OK.
That works.
Big time.
Big huge pads.
Do you ever wish that you had like enormous pads?
No.
No?
Not anymore.
I mean, looking back and seeing all these guys
when they used to have just like the biggest pad up
to their ears.
Yeah.
I love that look.
It's a nice look for back then.
But I mean, now that's the true full back.
You know what I'm saying?
Put his head down.
Boom.
And you still do that today, but the full back nowadays
got to be able to catch out the backfield.
And then kind of slow you down a little bit
when you got that big old neck roll right there.
You can't look around, catch a pass, and then so on.
A little bit.
Also, I know I mentioned this before we started taping,
but we do the annual Lowman Trophy Award,
which is the award given to the best college full back
in America.
If you would like to join our selection committee for next year,
we'd like to invite you to go ahead and be on that.
Your guy, we've got Vonte Leach on there.
We've got John Kuhn on there.
Several others.
So Anthony Sherman.
Be honored to have you.
Yes.
All right.
Your last pick, John.
OK.
My last pick, there are just so many good ones to pick from.
There are.
I'm going to have to go John Riggins.
OK.
That's a good pick.
John Riggins.
Fun story about John Riggins.
One time during an offensive meeting,
he was in the back of the room, still drunk from the night
before.
You know, Joe Gibbs is basically a boy scout, right?
So he's going through the offense,
run through the game plan.
John Riggins is in the back of the room,
and Gibbs hears a sound, looks back,
and it's Riggins just pissing straight up into the air,
and it's landing on his own body.
Fullback.
Gibbs just looked at him, decided not to say anything,
and went back to just installing the offense.
I like that.
I like that.
That's a true fullback.
You should try that and see if Bronn Reverse does anything.
He's got the transition lenses.
So maybe if you catch him on like a dark day with a glass,
as he can't even tell.
All right.
My last one, I'm going to stick with the fullback name.
So off of Bronco Negerci, the most fullback name
of all time, Max Strong.
Like that is, he was born to be a fullback.
I still can't believe that's the real name.
Max Strong.
You have a kid, and you're like, your last name is Strong,
and you're like, let's name him Mack.
OK, that's great.
That's a good rap name, Joe.
Almost Overkill.
Yeah, it is a little Overkill.
Well, you had to, because he was blocking
for Sean Alexander, who would just like run out of bounds,
given any chance that he got.
Yes.
All right.
So you have one last pick.
One last pick.
I'm going to go a little new school.
You know how you say the fullback makes a quarterback, right?
Yeah.
So when I go with Devlin, I like that take.
I like that take a lot.
That's nice.
That's nice.
I mean, he's definitely making a name for himself,
and you see what happened in the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Their style of play.
So I'm going to give it to him.
One thing I'm trying to come up with,
and maybe if anybody out there is an employee
of pro football focus, I would like to actually make
the fullback assist a real stat that's recognized.
So whenever a running back scores a touchdown
inside the five-yard line, and a fullback makes a block,
they should get an assist, like in hockey, or in soccer.
So I'm campaigning for that to be a real thing.
And I think that Devlin would have led the league
in fullback assist last year.
Yeah, we missed a couple.
Matt Sui, who is Walter Payton's fullback.
What about, does Mike Tolbert count?
Tolbert?
Yeah.
Like Stephen Colbert?
Mike Tolbert?
Yeah.
Do you get to use Mike Tolbert's leftover equipment
because you're basically the same size as him?
He would count.
Larry Zanka.
Corey Schlesinger.
Missed a few of those.
Yeah, there's a few good ones out there.
Krieger.
It goes on and on and on.
The fullback is going on.
Fullbacks are back.
So what are you looking forward to?
When does training camp, mini-camp starts in May?
Yeah, mini-camp starts in May, but we report April 15th.
That's when the team gets back to the other start
offseason workouts.
What happened at the end of the last year?
Because you guys were like Super Bowl contenders
for a minute there.
And then that Pittsburgh game.
Yeah, we kind of hit a low with the Steelers game.
So we had trouble getting the ball in the end zone,
that type of deal.
Were you on the field when Cam hurt his shoulder?
Was that your missed block?
No.
OK, good.
I didn't watch the tape, so if it was,
it would have been a very awkward moment.
Right, it would have, yeah.
But I had to ask.
Check the tape.
Check the tape.
I had to ask.
You weren't there, OK.
Perfect.
Perfect.
Anything else, P.F.T.?
Yeah, I'm always curious how you get noticed
as a fullback in college.
Because you got drafted, right?
Yeah, I got drafted.
So how does a fullback, like what?
It just seems to me that a lot of times NFL teams
sometimes they just look for a bigger guy
that isn't slow.
But like, what did you do as a college athlete,
especially at a small school that made you stand out
enough to get drafted?
Right, I think it was just my athleticism.
And them seeing me come from defense to offense
and playing tight end, H-back and fullback.
So just my versatility really helped
with that process and my athleticism.
And I had a really good pro-day too.
Can you dunk?
Oh, yeah.
Easily?
So can I?
360?
360.
Yeah?
Probably the only one I haven't done is through the legs.
Isaiah Ryder, you got to get it.
Come on.
I mean, you know what I'm saying?
And I slowed down with basketball a lot
once I got drafted.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, so, but I can still throw it down.
Okay.
Last question for me.
What's the best hit that you've ever made?
The best hit?
Just like NFL players.
Our biggest block.
Is there one that stands out to you?
Like, I really put my hat on that dude's hat.
I'm thinking about, there's a pre-season game
versus Dolphins, Cameron Wake.
That's when McCaffrey scored like a 70-yard touchdown run.
I put a pretty good lick on him.
You got the assist on that one?
Oh, yeah.
Did you declete him?
I got it in his pass.
I don't think I decleted him, you know?
Uh-huh.
Do you remember in the Super Bowl,
it was, I'm trying to remember who Devlin hit.
I think it was Sue on the first place.
It was like they had him do a wham block
against endemic and Sue, just like man-on-man.
And he kind of got lit up, but he did his job.
But he did his job.
And like, he was excited,
but you could tell like that fucked him up pretty bad.
That's another thing people will overlook full backs for.
It's like they always looking for that big hit,
but sometimes you got to do your job.
You go, you're probably going up to somebody like,
at least 60 pounds over on you.
So if you do your job,
that's still getting the job done at the end of the day.
I'm watching your highlights right now.
You were a beast on defense.
Like you got all your, you were number nine?
No, that's number eight.
Number eight, yeah.
That's a wild number to wear on defensive line.
I kind of like that though.
Did you ever stop and think like...
Our whole defensive line that year,
I think was single digits.
Besides like number 11.
Yeah, I see it's 17.
Yeah, that's weird.
Why do you think you guys did that?
I mean, because it's college and you can, you know what I'm saying?
So anytime a bigger guy get to wear a smaller number,
it's like, yeah, yeah, I thought it on.
Do you think it makes you look smaller
if you wear like a number one, number two?
88 definitely is the number that makes you look the fattest.
There's no question about it.
Like if you watch old school,
like what Michael Irvin was 88, right?
Yeah, and he's not a big dude,
but he looks fat as shit in those old highlights now.
But yeah, a single digit definitely makes you look bigger for sure.
You should have just put out this tape
and been like Florida Gators
because you have kind of the same colors
and just been like, yeah, I played in Florida next time.
Next time you go to the draft, we'll do that.
You're a rare white and blue baby.
All right, Alex Arma, thanks so much, man.
Appreciate you stopping by.
Appreciate you living everyone's dream by arm barring someone.
Are you, do you have like a MMA contract
that someone like give you a...
No, no, no, no, no.
Okay, we need to get like,
you need to get all that money, like, you know,
Bellator offers you something and don't even show up.
Yeah.
Or just show and beat the fuck out of Green Party.
I had a question.
What's up with this 13 jersey?
Whose jersey is that?
Which jersey?
Oh, that's Calvin Benjamin.
That's KB's?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You like Kevin?
He's chomp.
He could be a fullback.
Yeah, he's chomp.
Nowadays, but I got something for you.
Oh, okay.
Uh-oh.
You know what I'm saying?
We got to update you a little bit.
All right.
Oh.
You got the Alex Arma jersey?
Oh, hell yeah.
Let's go.
That's nice.
That's a sick jersey.
How about we go ahead and...
That game worn?
Yeah, this game worn.
Holy shit, we got to frame that.
Yeah, we're going to throw some fullback juice in here now.
Yes.
I love it.
We were actually moving offices in two months,
so we're going to frame that and put it up.
We're actually have a nice studio,
not like a studio where it looks like everyone
is just eating the walls.
This is the nicest gift anyone's ever given to me.
Yeah.
I'm watching the...
By the way, right now,
I'm watching the Christian McCaffrey touchdown.
Hang on.
Starting now.
Boom.
Yeah.
You sealed that edge on him.
You got him.
You got camera wake big time on that.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Alex Arma, thanks so much, man.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah.
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I'll tell you what.
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That's for sure.
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He spent 15 hours a day watching college basketball
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What about it?
Me?
What about it?
They just shot at me.
No, big cat.
What, you're going on a snitch?
You're saying that you're going to shoot them on your boat?
His name literally means big pussy.
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Hank, who do you have for Bud Light Busters?
I don't have one.
You don't have one?
I have Montana.
They're about to lose.
Not looking good.
By a lot.
They're missing dunks and stuff.
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OK, let's get to some segments so everyone
can get back to their March Madness.
Let's start with Way to Stay Relevant Baseball.
Way to Stay Relevant Baseball having one of the most
liked superstars in the past probably 50 years,
retire at 7 AM when no one was watching in Japan.
Yeah.
No, it really is like a mad lib of everything
that baseball could have done wrong.
So it's your biggest superstar retiring unannounced.
We're talking about the Ichiro.
Yeah.
He's retiring unannounced at the very last second.
They're letting it like doing the press release thing
and cutting into his live at bats in Japan.
In Japan at 7 in the morning.
At 7 in the morning.
I can't think of a worse way to stay relevant to that.
Well, and not only that, it was four in the morning
in the market that he was most well known for Seattle.
Right.
So even better.
And on top of all of that, I actually woke up
and I loved watching Ichiro.
Who didn't love watching Ichiro slap the ball
and run and beat out grounders and like all time legend.
I went to Twitter to try to find some clips.
Well, another one MLB.
I forgot, no one can tweet any clips from your product.
So I couldn't even see Ichiro's last thing
until you uploaded it on yourself.
So good job, MLB.
I can't believe that you nailed this one as great as you did.
On March Madness, on the first Thursday.
Yeah, exactly.
You killed it.
We forgot about that.
Yeah.
So it was on the day when nobody is talking
about baseball whatsoever.
Because it's also the beginning of the season,
10 days before the beginning of the season.
Right.
It was a master's.
Wait, this was a regular season game?
Yes.
Shut up.
Yes.
I didn't even know that the season started today.
They started it yesterday.
Oh my god.
I didn't even know that.
That's ridiculous.
That was the second game.
All right.
Where was the first one, Australia?
In Japan.
In Japan?
Geez.
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know the regular season started either.
That's regular season.
They could have at least given a heads up.
You know?
Like if they're going to have this big ceremony for Ichiro,
it would have been nice so that I could mentally prepare myself
for him retiring.
You know what this is going to do?
This is going to cost him some votes in the Hall of Fame.
When he's eligible, people are saying that he might be
another unanimous entry.
He had the first one this off season with Mariano Rivera.
But I would not put it past baseball writers to get upset
about not getting the heads up about his retirement.
Yes.
And hold that against him five years from now.
Yes.
Yes.
I mean, it's the whole thing is so funny.
The one thing I did love is Ken Griffey Jr. was there.
Ken Griffey Jr. might be the coolest guy.
Like to keep his coolness.
Every time he talks, every time he's just around,
you're like, man, that's Ken Griffey Jr.
And this is probably only for people who are between
the ages of like 30 and 40 because it's been that long.
But Ken Griffey Jr. like defines cool.
Yeah.
He is absolutely cool.
He's the only guy that I can think of who would look awesome
wearing a backwards baseball cap at the age of 80.
Yes.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Never turn that thing around.
I don't care what Colin Coward tells you, Ken.
So an update on MOB standings.
Seattle Mariners are actually leading the entire major
league baseball with a 2-0 record.
OK.
That'll last.
So you can actually look at the standings right now.
Everyone's 0-0.
And then the Mariners are 2-0 and the A's are 0-2.
That'll last.
Those games count.
Hey, every game counts.
When it comes down to the end of the season,
we're going to be like, remember that game?
Well, actually, you don't because it happened
at four in the morning in Japan.
In Japan on March 15th, basically.
Yes.
Yes.
All right.
Next up, we have a stay woke.
You have a stay woke.
You have a stay woke for Nick Saban and Bill Belichick.
So you saw Belichick down at Alabama's Pro Day
a couple of days ago.
He was wearing an Alabama Crimson Tide pullover,
a shirt supporting Alabama.
I think that Saban paid him to wear the shirt
because Saban knows they need to do a better job recruiting
the Hunter Rinfros of the world, who's
been a pain in his ass, beat him twice in national championship
games.
What better way to recruit the scrappy little white wide
receivers than have Belichick be the new face of your program?
I like that.
He knows how to get back at Davos 20.
I like that.
And this is step one.
I like that.
It was so weird seeing him in Alabama shirt
because Belichick is one of those guys
that you've seen him for so long in one certain type of gear.
And basically, he only wears one type of apparel.
It's a sweatshirt.
And then to see him in that, you're just shocked.
You have no idea.
It makes no sense.
It's like when you see him with a collar on.
When he wears a suit, you're like, what is going on right now?
It was too much color for Belichick.
Yeah.
I'm used to the grays, the dark grays, the Heather grays.
Did you imagine if Belichick ever coached the Dolphins?
No, no.
He wouldn't do that.
He wouldn't do it just because of the uniforms.
Yes, it's true.
It's too flashy.
It's true.
We also had to respect the biz real quick.
A double.
The first is for the journalists in Hartford for the tournament.
Apparently, they ran out of food.
So it became a firefest situation.
And they were eating like just slices of cheese
because there's no other food in the entire stadium, obviously.
No, they can't go.
You can't purchase it.
You can't.
No, you can't.
Because if you give them your money,
then you're complicit in whatever they do.
You've compromised your integrity.
Yeah, it's the best story ever whenever a press box runs out
of food.
Did they still have Diet Coke?
That's a great question.
Imagine if it was just down to RC Cola or regular Coke.
I think they would stop the tournament.
They would have stopped the tournament
if they had run out of that.
Yeah, they should.
They should.
That's a dangerous situation.
If a plane doesn't have air conditioning working,
they have to turn around and land it
because it can turn deadly for somebody
that might have a condition.
For journalists, if you don't have Diet Coke,
the whole enterprise is shut down.
Yeah, exactly.
And then the other respect abyss is for anyone
who hates on hot dogs, ballpark hot dogs.
We love them.
We love stories about them.
Yeah, don't write about hot dogs.
Yeah.
Well, no, do because we love them.
No, but respect abyss is bad if you write about hot dogs.
Yeah, it's actually the worst thing you could ever do.
It cheapens the entire profession.
Yeah, it's like murder and right above murder
is writing about hot dogs.
Yeah, agreed.
Well, no, murder, clapping in the press box,
writing about hot dogs.
It's number one above both of us.
True.
All right.
Last up, we have a new segment, Hank.
You got it for us.
Give it to us.
So there's a tweet today that went viral,
and the tweet's from swerve and merve.
Swerve and merve.
Yeah, I'm familiar.
OK.
Everybody Google Florida man followed by your birthday.
And tell me what you get.
Minus Florida man tries to attack neighbor with tractor.
So this tweet went viral.
There's a lot of funny responses.
I thought it'd be a good segment, too.
I'll read some of these.
You guys can tell me whether they're fake or real.
But they're just trying to get your date of birth
to steal your identity.
That's why they're asking that question.
It's like, hey, here's a fun experiment.
Your vanity license plate is if you
take all the letters from your social security number
and you put them the corresponding letter in the alphabet.
I feel like people's birthdays are pretty public knowledge.
I did it for your royal name during the royal wedding.
It was your royal name is your mother's maiden name
in your first pet.
Everyone kept on quoting it.
The street you grew up on.
Dude, that is literally the most common security questions.
That's actually a fun game.
Yeah.
Go.
Florida man who allegedly threatened family
with Coldplay lyrics and stand off
after SWAT, Promise, and PETA.
That's true.
What song by Coldplay do you think it was?
Probably Fix You.
Yeah.
Make everybody cry.
Strawberry Fields or Strawberry Swing, whatever
the hell that song is.
I love that song.
Whose birthday was that one, Hank?
No, it's just I'm just reading the headlines.
You guys are telling me whether they're real or fake.
OK, got it.
That's real.
Yeah, real.
Wait, did we look up our own?
That's what I thought you were doing.
Yeah.
We got to look up our own.
Audible, another Audible.
Omaha.
Omaha.
Omaha.
Hank, are you going to look up yours?
OK, my birthday is.
This is a good one.
Florida man thinks he's stealing pain pills,
ends up with laxatives.
Ooh, that's pretty good.
That's a really good one.
Florida man asked cops to test his illegal drugs.
That's good.
Here's a good one.
That's good.
Florida man put semen in coworkers' water.
Well, I mean, that's the nectar of life.
Yeah, exactly.
You're giving life to somebody.
Sustenance.
All right, so yeah, give us some more real and fake ones.
Give us a couple more, yeah.
Florida man arrested after fingering his sister on a horse.
That's fake.
That's real.
Fake.
Yeah, I know Hank's vocabulary.
Damn, Hank, you going to take that?
No, I'm going to find a better one.
Yeah, you're going to take that.
Florida man claims he was killed because he was possibly
the next mass killer, cops say.
That's true.
That's definitely true.
True.
Yeah.
Honestly, I don't have a problem with that.
No, he could have stopped his slaughter.
Yeah.
Florida man shoots a puppy from a balcony
during a walk with its owners.
That was an Arkansas man.
That was Mike Huckabee's son.
If you made that up, you're fucked up.
I'm saying that Hank made it up.
I'm saying you made it up.
It's real.
Oh, thank god.
Well, I mean, you are a cat guy, so.
Florida man shoots his dad with a crossbow
while he is taking a shit and kills him.
Real.
Real, very real.
That's fake.
That's fake.
Oh, he got us.
Yeah, I mean, who would put shit in a headline?
Yeah.
That should have been a tip-off in retrospect.
Fuck.
Damn it.
Florida man killed the fuck out of his dad
while he was dropping a big load.
Florida man climbs on playground equipment
to tell children where babies come from.
Real.
That's real.
All right.
I didn't get to guess, but I would have said real too.
All right, is that it?
I mean, there's more, but I feel like you guys got the gist.
Yeah, we got the gist.
That was a good game.
Give a pick for tomorrow.
A pick for tomorrow?
Yeah, Houston.
Houston, I like that.
I like Cincinnati.
We will be back into the March Madness stew.
And we will see everyone on Monday
to recap the entire weekend.
And good luck.
Hopefully your bracket doesn't get busted.
Godspeed, Greenie.
Yeah, and Ravel.
Great job, man.
The streak's alive.
Thank fucking God.
Love you guys.
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