Pardon My Take - Mark Cuban, Mt Rushmore Of Life's Little Embarrassments And Ronnie Coleman

Episode Date: May 15, 2020

PFT lost to Hank in Ping Pong and the meme to end all memes wants Big Cat to die (2:27 - 7:11). Fake crowds and fans and MLB (7:11 - 15:41). Fyre Fest of the week and we're on to naming rights for everything (15:41 - 30:40). Mark Cuban joins the show to talk about the NBA coming back, running for President, being friends with Michael Jordan and much more (30:40 - 66:31). Mt Flushmore of life's little embarrassments and we review the documentary Ronnie Coleman - The KingYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Mark Cuban. Awesome discussion with the Cubes, the Cubeman, soon to be our president that we're going to be the cabinet members of. Mark Cuban's awesome. We talked to him about everything, NBA coming back, running for president, some of our ideas,

everything. We have Mount Fleshmore of Lice, little, small, embarrassing moments. We're going to review the Ronnie Coleman, the King documentary, which I didn't love, but we'll still talk about it because he's still a legend. Is your documentary? I know. I thought it was going to be better. I would listen.

You just knew that he was an interesting guy. Right. You hadn't seen the movie yet. They just didn't. It was frustrating to say the least. Yes. He's a very interesting guy and it just felt like there needed to be more. Open invite to Ronnie to come on the show though.

Absolutely. Um, and then we have, uh, oh yeah, that's it. That's it. All right. Let's have a good show. I was just trying to think about what else we have, but I think I named it all. Mount Fleshmore, Ronnie Coleman, Mark Cuban, Fire Fest. Yes.

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You get $10 for free, $10 for the ASPCA. Today is Friday, May 15th, and PFT is topless because Hank swept him in ping pong. Well, we went one-in-one today. I beat Hank. I swept Hank in soup pong. And then he beat me in ping pong. So I guess we're 500 today. I am shirtless though.

He just swept. That's the truth. It's a little cold in the studio today in the Cash App studio. Pete turned down the lights a little bit so he could cut some diamonds with these tins. Is the rivalry dead? I think the rivalry is dead. But I think anytime that there's a sweep that happens, it's bad. There's no sugarcoating it whatsoever.

I retired from ping pong on stool streams tonight because let's face it, if you tune in to watch, if you're giving us your hard-earned time and expecting to see an athletic competition between myself and Hank and you end up watching a sweep, that's disappointing for me to be giving that to you. Hank, do you feel a little bad? Do you feel a little bad that you've beaten PFT down to this? No, not at all. It's like MJ versus the Pistons, except in this situation, no one got to saw the Pistons

beat the Bulls. No one got to see. No one got to see. All right, so we have mouth flushed more of life's little embarrassing moments coming up. That makes it a little bit better right now. Yeah, that will. I feel better now.

You did give one back there. Thanks. Now, Hank beat you 4-1 today. You said that earlier, but that's the thing where it's like, maybe that's just me. I'm not even embarrassed about that. Okay, so we are at the point of the quarantine and shelter in place where the news stories every day, there are none. It's basically manufactured, latching on news stories so much so that we are now, we've

arrived at the meme that everyone is sharing that is so fucking annoying. On Inception, what do you think of when you see this picture or logo meme that's going around? And I got to say, the worst part about this is the trending bar is going to be, I've already seen Jeff Koenig trending, thought he was dead. Oh my God. Eric Snow trending, thought he was dead. This is, we're at Hellscape.

We can't get worse than this. Jeff Koenig was trending. That's probably the first time that he's ever trended on any social media platform. It makes sense when you see the old Marlins logo, you're like, yeah, Jeff Koenig. It does, yeah. Him, Dontrell Willis, that's really all I think of. When you see all these accounts that are all basically the exact same, sharing the same thing to try to get off that, they're trying to suck on that viral teat.

I just want to fucking end it. Well, all sports teams, all sports, yeah, Suicidal Big Cat usually doesn't come out until November. I didn't know where that sentence was going and I was like, yeah, just end it. But all sports teams are, they're scraping the bottom of the barrel too because they're just saying your third at is your quarantine buddy and just trying to get as many replies as possible. It's also with old highlights.

I love Larry Bird, watching Larry Bird highlights. It's at this stage of the office level of saturation where they're just posting the same throwback. Larry Bird was icing his veins and it's like, I see that every single day. It's like the office, you love the office, but when everyone posts office clips all day long, you get fatigue from it. So it's not even like, it's just you're getting fatigued because they have nothing else to post.

They're just posting the same throwbacks over and over and over and over and over again. The entire internet has just become Rex Chapman's Twitter feed. End it. There should just be dog day on the internet where you're not allowed to post on social media unless it's a picture or a GIF of a cute woofer. Yeah. I just, I mean, the big news of the day was Joe Box saying that they might do fake crowd noise and virtual fans and that everyone getting upset about that.

Why are people upset about this? No one's really upset about it. Everyone's just upset that they're not the first person to make the joke about the Atlanta Falcons already doing this four years ago. Right. So it's just, it's just frustration growing from that. I don't think that Joe Buck actually said that. No.

I think this is like a hair plug. I almost died thing where he says something and it gets taken and the ball kind of rolls on a little bit, but he said that he wouldn't shock him if they use virtual fans in the stands and they pipe in the crowd noise. I'm okay with that. Only if they change the level of the noise depending on the situation. Of course. I want, I want the person who's in charge that to have a little feel for the moment.

If it's a big fourth down, well, are they just going to pipe it in on the broadcast or they're going to pipe it into the stadium itself? I want Trent Reznor sitting in New York City doing the fucking masterpiece audio levels for every single game. Give me that. Yes. Yeah. Make it a super producer.

Him, RZA. The guy who did the Batman soundtrack. Like break out the big guns here. I'm interested to see what that effect is going to have on the game. If a quarterback, well, first of all, the quarterback audibles, if they don't use any fake crowd noise or going to sound awesome coming through the TV, you're going to hear everything that they say. Right.

Well, I see, I feel like the NFL wouldn't let there be super loud mics. Do you know what I mean? That's where, so that's where I always came from, from the perspective of people saying, well, we want to hear the players talk. We want to hear that. Do you think NFL is going to let that happen? Do you think NFL is going to let players have like a hot mic? It's not the XFL.

Do you think Bill Belichick is going to let his team have a hot mic? Do you think any like coach is the NFL is full of coaches that are the most paranoid people in the world? Do you think they're going to they're going to be willingly allowing like all of their schemes and everything to be just said out loud in a way? Probably not. Right. I am interested to hear like Vontes perfect, just unfiltered.

And then get suspended. And yeah, this is just a big ruse to find different ways to suspend players. I just, there's no, there's, there's no news. We got great show. Cuban is awesome. We have Cuban coming up. There's just, I'm just, I'm at the point where I'm done faking that there's news. Like this Blake Snell thing, I don't even care about that.

He's right. Move on. He's right. He's saying, and I did more reading on this. He's saying, and it makes sense. What about the teachers and the first responders big cat though? That's a good point. Renegotiate their rates.

Blake Snell is right. If you, if he had not, if the players had not already negotiated to take into account what's happening with the COVID virus, then I would be like, okay, yeah, maybe you should make some concessions. But the fact is, the players already agreed to give up a bunch of their money. Why are they going back again? Right. And we're at the.

Can't just keep saying, okay, we're going to go back and ask for more of our money. It's actually kind of like saying coronavirus is bad. We all agree. Yeah. Anti-coronavirus. Big time anti-coronavirus. Fuck that shit. What about, what about like mannequins in the stands?

I'd like to see real dolls in the stands. Just a bunch of sex dolls everywhere. I would be cool with figuring out a way to have, you know, in like Japan, they have those robots that they can put your face on the robot. Have that and all the diehard fans get to get their faces on the robots. Have the Seahawks fans with the gloves and I absolutely need real doll to make a Seattle Seahawk to sit in the, every front row seat should be that whole. Yes.

That's what I want. I just, I don't see any downside. I know people, I think people are bargaining with like, I hope they're still real fans, but if there's not real fans, just put the fucking virtual fans and give us some to look at. What about this? In order to actually have it be interactive with the fans, what if like the team Twitter accounts say, okay, if you retweet this, it increases the crowd noise and then fans

that are online can like smash that RT button. It increases the value of the NFL social media accounts and it can like provide a dynamic. That's not bad. I mean, there's some franchise, I mean, would the chargers ever, I guess that would be exactly what it would be like. Exactly what it would be like. The chargers would just have nothing, it would be one guy just yelling. And for maybe if it's, if it gets more faves than retweets, then it lowers it.

So Redskins games would be all opposing fans at the games. Right. Okay. I'm down with that. There we go. Or if you're a season ticket holder, don't you know when you try to buy a ticket online and they have the picture from your seat of what the, what the field looks like? What if you just set up like 67,000 little webcams so that people could just like virtually

be sitting in their seat? Yeah. Virtual reality is going to get here eventually. We will be watching games like that while we get blowjobs. Oh yeah. Finally. Okay. Well, maybe that type of noise with your shirt.

We'll be thinking about getting it. Yeah. That was way too much of a sigh with your shirt off because from my perspective, you're naked. Yeah. I might get to see anything underneath this. I might be. I'm also keeping my eye on the Todd Gurley situation. Have you been staying abreast of the Todd Gurley situation?

He has arthritis as like a 28 year old. Now I'm talking about the money that he's owed from the Rams. So the Rams still haven't paid Todd Gurley his last paycheck yet. And so he's mad about that. He says that he won't talk to anybody, any of his teammates on the Rams until he gets paid. I don't know if that's going to accomplish anything. But I'd like to say, yeah, to Todd Gurley, if I'll take on that debt, I'll become your

collection agency. Send me over to that stadium. I'll strip that shit of copper wire. Wait, but if you keep on this, so you're going to pay him. I'll get a line of credit. I'll get a line of credit, pay Todd Gurley, and then I'll go collect from the Rams and whatever I collect from them, I gets to keep. We'll take a bat to Sean McVeigh's kneecaps.

Less need. We're coming for you, bro. Listen, Todd, they spent a fortune redesigning their jerseys to look like Ikea billboards. Yes. So you need to just they're going through some cash flow issues right now. I can't believe how bad some of these jerseys are. All right, let's do firefests and we'll get to Cuban. Before we get to our firefests, though, NASCAR is back.

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Sports are back. Download that NASCAR Finish Line app. It is a free predictor app and you can get $25,000 every single race. You know what's huge, actually? So I've been seeing this on a lot of Twitter accounts. I think Fuddleburg pointed this out for the first time, but they're getting really into this day in history in sports history like one year ago, and it's the most mundane shit. Yeah, Kauai hit the shot.

Tomorrow, that's a pretty big one, actually. I mean, it is, but it's also a second round series and it's also one year old. It's got to be like five years plus to be history. I'm trying to figure out what they're going to tweet out tomorrow. What happened May 15th, 2019? I just Googled in sports. Graham McDowell played a practice round at the PGA Championship. That's the first thing.

Who could forget? I think we need you to be doing this. Find the most boring this day in history and tweet it from part of my take every single day. The most boring. The most boring. It's going to be a challenge. You know what?

We want to find out which... Baseball players going one for four with a single. Yeah. I want it to be a competition where we see which one of our tweets has the least amount of engagement on it. Yes. That's how we will measure how big of a success it is. This day in sports history and just have it be awful, awful, awful.

Qualifiers. Like, this person qualified for the shot put in 1997. I like that. Should it just be limited to one year ago? No. I think it should be... History. This day in history.

Past five years. Past five years so that it's at least like we shouldn't do some random game from a hundred years ago because then it might... Yeah. Past five years, May 15th, this day in history, Jake will tweet, he's going to tweet it out every single day. This Natty Reds right fielder Yaseil Puig hits a game-winning RBI single against the Chicago Cubs.

And this one belongs to the Reds. Okay. This day in history. The Rays beat the Marlins, won nothing. There you go. That's a pretty good one. Mm-hmm. That's a really good one.

Fuck. Okay. Let's do Firefest. Hank. Firefest. My first one is that I actually can't even say what my real Firefest is. Until next week. So that's my first one.

I have a Firefest, but I was just told that I'm not allowed to talk about it until next week. So that's Firefest number one. You got engaged? It's like a no-hitter. Nope. You've got something that you think is going to happen that hasn't happened yet? It's something I'm participating in, but I can't talk about it until next week.

So that's my first Firefest. My second Firefest is that last week after we had this whole conversation about pulling a Hank, as you will, I had a perfect situation where I could have let in because I rode my longboard in my Boosted Board, which is apparently now out of business. I rode it in to work on Thursday. I didn't realize until after we recorded that it died. It's dead. It's not coming back.

And Boosted Board... Dead? It's dead. And Boosted Board ceased to exist as a company. So... They're also dead. I could have perfectly, like, actually you were talking about doing a Hank and I could have been like, hey, actually, my Boosted Board is broken and I need a new one.

And I didn't do that. So Boosted Board... So that's my Firefest of this week. If you're listening... I was missing that opportunity to say that my Boosted Board is broken and I need a new electric skateboard. And an electric... And you need an electric bike.

So that's my Fire... A bike? You want an electric bike? What about a motorcycle? No. What about one of those just like shitty bikes with like a lawnmower mower on it? Yeah, the ones... Yeah, yeah.

When you see delivery guys going around, they have like the electric bikes where they only have to pedal like once every 30 minutes. Yeah. So that's my Firefest. And maybe Boosted Board has some inventory left over. If they're out of business, they probably just... Well, yeah. People were saying you could like buy batteries and then you got to...

That's not... You're not a gear... Yeah, I would explode, I think, if I can do that. Yes. Why did Boosted Board go out of business? I don't know. It's fucking way too amazing. It's way too many Boosted Boards.

I loved my Boosted Board. I think most people that... Do you drive a skateboard? Most people that drive skateboards do it for the love of the boarding. They don't want to be pushed. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. I mean, it's the ultimate like millennial hipster move to have an electronic skateboard.

But I fucking love it. So I need to get a new one and my Firefest is that I missed that opportunity last week to let people know that I need a new one. I got passed on my way into work tonight. I rode the bike, the city bike in. I got passed by a Boosted Board and I thought it was Hank because the person almost clipped me and they kept going forward. That would have been...

Ultimate intimidation. Yeah, I thought that's what you were doing. And so it got in my head before the game. I was like, Hank just buzzed my tower. Is that it, Hank? That's it. I tune in next week for my Firefest. My Firefest of the week is something that I haven't really done that much reading on,

but it sounds scary and it feels like something that has been building up for a while. I think that Congress just allowed the FBI to access all of our search history on the internet. Yes. I saw that tweet. I didn't click the link. Yeah, so it seems bad. I've been saying for years that I think at some point all of our search history is going

to be totally public and I think that the porn sites have been complicit recently. I think that this is actually something that's been going on for the last three years because on most major porn sites, they feature heavily the whole step son, step daughter dynamic. Even if you never click on those videos and watch them, they're pushing those on you. I think that they've been doing that so that now they know that anyone that's been to one of these websites has either accidentally or on purpose clicked on one of those, so they have dirt on everybody in America almost. Yeah, but if everyone has that, then we can just be like, well, yeah, we all know it's

a very relatable moment. Okay. Can we just say right off the bat, we will not shame anyone if it comes out that you've clicked on? No. Sounds like you're really getting in front of this one. I don't know. I don't know if I've clicked on one.

I've never. I've never. I was ready to do that. We won't tell anyone. Step mom or step sister. Thought about it a little bit. Sounds like. I've never intentionally.

I've never intentionally. You're trying to get everyone to go along with not talking about it. It started with Game of Thrones and when that was going on, everyone was like, let's capitalize on this and we'll make incest the new hotness. And I just like to say, I don't think I've ever accidentally clicked on incest porn. I don't know if I have. Neither. That's the thing.

Accidentally. Accidentally. Right. So just stay woke. Just stay woke. Be careful. Use your friends. Go to the library.

Yeah. Like we used to do back in the day. However, the dude getting who's masturbating at the library and then they like, they caught him and interviewed him in his front lawn. Carl Monday. Yeah. One of the greatest investigators. That was the investigator.

Yeah. Yeah. Carl Monday. He pulls this guy over and the guy's rocking an OSU sweatshirt. It's like, so you just started having sex with yourself in the library. He's like, yeah. Yeah. And then he, and then they got him on his front lawn and I think his dad or his mom

came out. I was like, leave my son alone. He's just jerking off the library. Yeah. It's great. I'll find the clip. You gotta watch that. I'll find the clip.

It's a great one. It's a fucking great one. All right. My fire fest is I got, I'm really into naming rights and I think I'm going to probably go broke just naming random things. So I'm officially open to open for business. I will buy purchase naming rights for anything. What about my third nipple?

You're also planning on buying triple digit hats. Yeah. With that name. Yeah. I'm at the point of quarantine where I'm going to start buying random shit because I, I have not been losing money gambling. So my brain says you'll never lose money gambling again. You're free to spend all your money.

Stoolstream stadium needs a name, a sponsor. How much? I don't know. I don't know. $300 for my nipple. Let me see it. Right there. If you throw in the fourth, I'll think about it.

I know. Fourth is going to cost you. Okay. That one's a premium. No deal. No deal. Okay. I'll see you in a couple of weeks.

You'll be back. What about your beard, Hank? No. You wouldn't, you wouldn't sell your beard naming rights for your beard? No. Why? Because what if I shave it? You could do whatever you want.

Yeah. No, you could, no, no. If you shave it, we'll put it in the contract. If you shave it, it's fine. If you have a beard. I want, I want, I want big cat's beard. No. How much?

Mourn on Hank Lockwood. How much right now for your first born? Right now? Yeah. $1 million. Ooh. Cash? Yeah.

That's, that sounds pretty tempting right now. You guys got, you guys got equity. Okay. Okay. $1 million. What's, let's get back on the beard. Why wouldn't you sell me your beard? Because you would name it something dumb and then people would just be calling it something

dumb. No, we could agree to a name. We could agree to a name. No. I don't like, I just don't. I'll pay you $50 a week for your naming rights to your beard. It needs to be something that I can, no. It needs to be something that I can take off and I don't want something that's on me

full time. Your beard. You can take your beard off. You can take your beard off. You can take it off. Any time you want. No. It's gonna be something cool.

Like if you have your garage or something, I will buy naming rights to it. So your, you know, beer pong table, your golf clubs. And what do you get out of it? They have to, they have to include me every time they use it. They have to include me in a tweet and they also have to display an image or poster that they pay for that says the name of the place. And if you have a website for whatever that is, you have to include at the bottom, like our official, our partners, our corporate partners include Big Cat.

Open for business. Ooh. What? I've already bought print. Giant's cornerback Deandre Baker and Seahawks cornerback Quinten Dunbar arrested for four counts of armed robbery with a firearm. Together? Damn.

Arrests warrant has been issued. Man, that sucks. Did they break shelter in place? May 13th. I don't like that it's, it's, it's two rival teams teaming up together to rob people. Are they rivals? Seahawks and the Giants? Yeah.

They both won Super Bowls in the last 10 years. Yeah. I don't think they can do it. I think they can pull that off. Either way, just hit me up for, I've already bought Brandon Walker's basement and Steven Chay's Passball Court. So I'm in. I'm in for anything.

I would like to just name everything. It's just brand recognition. How much would you pay for this nipple? 200 bucks, cash right now. I have a little more respect for myself than that. Okay. 300 bucks cash. What did you say initially?

I think I said 300 bucks. Price went up. Three. Because I know that you're willing to pay 300. I'll pay 300 final off cash right now. 600. I'll throw the fourth in. Nope.

Fourth is big, barely a nipple. I know. Barely. I got to make sure that you want it. Okay. I will buy that. My final offer, $300. The nice thing about being able to name everything in the world with your naming rights is I

can walk away from any negotiation because guess what, PFT, there'll be another third nipple somewhere down the line. Maybe. That I can buy. Maybe. It's going to cost, if you try to bring it to big boy like Andy Ruiz whose third nipple is like the size of the moon, then it's going to be a lot more expensive. Tell you what, I'm going to take your offer to market.

If anybody else out there would like to buy naming rights to my third nipple. Great. All right. Let's get to Mark Cuban. We should have tried to fucking do this with Mark Cuban just by naming rights all his shit in his house. Although he probably wouldn't have done it, but he would have because he loves cash. He also doesn't need the money.

But cash is king. You always could get more money. That's true. We're liquid. Wow. I just another breaking news. Kenny, Kenny Chesney postponed his tour. Guess what it was called?

Uh, the big cat, the big cat, you could buy this tour for $300. PFT. That's, I don't, it's, I wear a giant hat because I'm ugly. What is it? Chillaxification tour. Fuck. God damn it. Wait.

Why can't you do the chillaxification tour? Just do it a couch tour. Chillaxification would have been so money. Man. What even is the, it's chill, relax. And then gratification, pacification, vacation, vacation, vacation, vacation, but that's not the if occasion. Yeah.

Where's the if occasion? I think the if vacation is pontification. What does pontification mean? Talking a lot. Speaking of, I don't think he knows what that is. Chillaxification. I don't know if he knows what that is. Chillaxification.

Kenny Chesney is a guy that just names shit after he's like how you're Googling it. Things that he sees on bumper stickers. Where it's hard. Well, what does it stand for? What does chillaxification stand for? What's the last thing? Chill, relax, if you want a vacation. If occasion.

What we got to get to the end. I'm going to Google just. All right, Kenny. Come on the show. If occasion. Everyone, everyone tell Kenny to come on. Simplification. What is the name?

If occasion. Other prefixes for if occasion. I'm looking that up right now. What is this if occasion Chesney, you've derailed part of my tape. If occasion. Sorry. Words with if occasion. Chillax.

If occasion. Root. Indemnification. Personification. Desertification. Exemplification. Commodification. Frenchification.

Syllable. Fuck this. Falsification. Nullification. Nullification. He knew it was going to be canceled the whole time. Nullification. I like that.

What does it mean? Utification. Intensification. Chillaxify. Is that. Yeah, I think it might be chillaxify a word that doesn't that doesn't exist. It's a process of chillaxifying something. So the show is going to be a two hour experience of chillifying.

This is going to drive me nuts. I'm just going to tweet it. What is it? What does the if occasion stand for? Okay. Chillaxify. Is that. Yeah, I think it might be chillaxify a word that doesn't that doesn't exist.

It's a process of into a word that doesn't exist. It's a process of chillaxifying something. Okay. And hopefully by the end of the show, we'll get an answer. Gentrification. Kenny Chesney is going to make sure that every neighborhood he goes to is gentrified. He's probably going to do that anyways. Chillaxification tour.

Unbelievable. I now I didn't know I needed that, but now I need it. Like that's the part that really sucks. You know, like what? Who, who knew they needed a chillaxification tour until right now. Magnificent. Magnification. Get a closer look at him.

There's. Okay. I'm tweeting it. We'll find out what does, what should I say? What does the if occasion if a if he objectification stand for in chillaxification? If this is obvious, I'm going to be so mad. I mean, I'm looking at a huge list right now of if occasions. And I'm not seeing a single one that could possibly work.

Diversification. I regret everything. Yeah, this is terrible. It's chill. There's just going to be a quick little chuckle. Relax and vacation. What the fuck does the if a mean. Humidification.

Just have a shitload of those cooling fans. Okay. All right. I've tweeted it. Get on. Mark Cuban. Before we get to Mark Cuban, bright sellers, bright sellers are great new sponsor. So you got to check them out.

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Three, two, one, yep. Let me see that. Let me see that office chair, let me see the office chair. What the hell? You got to have a nicer office chair than that. Comfy baby. Comfy. Comfy.

Okay. All right. Let's just get into it. So it's, uh, we're welcoming on our good friend recurring guest Mark Cuban season 11 finale a shark tank is Friday night. So it's tonight. We're going to air this. We're going to air it on Friday.

I was just asking, come on, that, that desk chair you have looks like your, uh, mid-level account, which is not bad, but you have to have like the big boss chair, the intimidating boss chair that you swivel around. Yo, swag comes from who I am, not what I wear, not what my chair is. When you got it, you got it. I don't have to worry about that stuff. I'm just comfortable. Is that ergonomic or what?

Yeah. It's kind of actually. Okay. It's actually really comfy. Okay. So, um, it's great to have you on. I think we have a bunch of different things we want to get to, but let's start with the NBA.

Uh, you've been very outspoken where, as we're sitting here right now, where are you guys at in terms of the dialogue with the league and the players as an owner, are we going to come back? I hope so. You know, we're trying to figure out the safety side of it because that's the most important thing. Right. And so I think we've got some ideas, but testing is key.

And you know, there's not enough testing for the freaking White House, you know, and it's just hard to get the right kind of tests and make sure they're accurate. And so that's the first step. But once we figure that out and the scientists tell us what to do, then I think we can, you know, take that hotel California approach where we get one big hotel, quarantine everybody in there, you know, and then kind of like big brother when you're eliminated, you leave. And then the last team standing in the hotel was championship. I love that.

Is there any talk about also keeping it like a reality show where you have cameras behind the scenes in the hotel. So it's like a twofer. Absolutely. You know, but that's a cool idea, man. Big brother NBA, you know, I can see that. So how does that work with testing? You have to test what every 24 hours or every 48 hours?

What have you heard? Well, if we go hotel California, once you go in, you never leave, right? And so you stay there until you're eliminated and maybe you have family, whatever, but to get into the quarantine environment, this is just the way I've visualized it. This is not what the league has told us specifically. But once you get tested, once you get there, and if you're good, you go in and, you know, let's just say it's in Vegas, there's nowhere to go in Vegas right now. So you just stay there.

It'll be in a big resort like hotel and you just chill. And then you play your games. If you're eliminated in the regular season, you go home. If you, if you're in the playoffs, you play until you're done, you know, and that's the way to work. And so real quick, it sounds like what you just said was not, we're not jumping to the playoffs immediately. We're going to finish out some of the regular season games.

Yeah, I would think so, right? That's my hope, right? That's what I've been supporting. It's kind of like, you know, from the last dance, you know how when Michael Jordan came back, he played 20 games and he said he didn't have his legs for the playoffs, you know? And so we're going to have to play some game because if you just throw the guys in the playoffs, that's going to be brutal physically. Yeah, absolutely.

So what, what point in the calendar would you say goodbye to this season? Because that's what I keep thinking about. Yeah. So let's, let's just assume that we don't start next season till Christmas day, right? So if we work backwards from there, considering everything's kind of funky, let's just say we'd have to have, you know, 60 days, right? So November, October. So we'd have to really, and then a training camp.

So we'd have to be done by mid September, let's say. And so, you know, remember the old ad for, for TNT, 40 games and 40 nights, you know? So you'd need those 40 nights plus the finals. So you know, three months of August, you know, so if we start July, August, September, if we start sometime in July, we might be able to make it. Okay. So, so that's where I keep thinking of like, what, at what point in the calendar now, if we do, if the NBA comes back and like you said, starts Christmas day, do you think this

is something that will be going forward? We can start Christmas day because I've always thought that's when the NBA should start. People don't have the bandwidth to watch NBA first five games of the season when NFL football is going on. So, amen. Are you in for that? I'm right there with you. Okay.

Oh yeah. I've been saying that for 15 years. And the reason I've been getting shot down is there's this thing called HUT, households using television. And during the summer, that drops, right? Not fewer people are watching television because they can be outside. And in the past, that was a big deal. So you wanted to end by June when you could maximize people watching TV.

But as you guys know, as well as anybody, TV's changed, TV's changed a lot. And so we're going to have a lot more options and a lot more flexibility to start later and end later. And I agree with you. Rather than taking on football, you know, with our first early games, let's let them get close to playoffs and just go wholeheartedly starting Christmas Day. I'm interested in hearing your perspective on how to kind of renegotiate things once the league gets back going because we're seeing it in baseball that the owners are saying,

okay, we're not going to do the whole pro-rated thing. We're going to do a rev-share, essentially, and put a soft cap in baseball. From the NBA perspective, obviously, if you guys come back, you're going to be one of the only games in town. So I would imagine that TV rights are going to go way up. Are you going to renegotiate TV rights? Are you going to talk to players and try to figure out a different split, given the fact that you're not going to be making money off ticket sales?

I mean, we have a collective bargaining agreement in place, so I'm guessing we stick to that. But I'm not on that committee. They keep me out of there because I raised too much hell last time I was on there. So yeah, I mean, I don't know specifically, and I haven't heard anything about that. But you know, I'm guessing we'll stick with what we got, but who knows? Has this entire experience with the pandemic made you think like, maybe I actually am going to run for president? Yeah.

You know, I kind of run, I'm running out of time, and my family is still against it. So that's been a mess. But it's been so crazy, right? You just, I can never say never. You guys know me for a long time, man. I'm always an entrepreneur. I'm always keeping doors open, just like you guys. You guys took from being your beat-up and turning it around and turning it into something big

and special. You know, that's what I try to do. And so, you know, if the door opens, because something crazy happens, maybe, but it's a long, long, long shot. Okay. So breaking news, Mark Cuban going to run for president, maybe. Yeah. Exactly.

We're taking two clips from this interview, and it's never say never. And then maybe. Maybe. So that sounds 50-50 to me. It's going to be the PMT platform. It's going to be the PMT platform and what it's going to be. Yes. We got you.

We will be in your cabinet. Yeah. Yeah. I'll manage your campaign. Flood? Amber Alert. Amber Alert. Yeah.

That was the government being like, Cuban's talking about running for president again. Yeah. Fuckin' Zappis phone. Oh, shit. There's this black helicopter outside. Yeah. They're bugging your internet history. So you have been in the news recently for talking about, like, okay, here's your perspective

on what America needs right now in terms of immediate stimulus, all that stuff. Have you been active in those conversations? Have you been talking to people at different levels of the government? Yeah. I mean, I've talked to folks in the White House. To the president's credit, they put me on this committee to open things back up and they assigned me a guy who's a liaison who's been really good and really responsive. So I'm talking to him almost every day, either via email, text, or phone.

And so they've been taking my ideas. They haven't put any to work yet, but they've been listening. What's your idea? What's one thing that you would implement right now if Mark Cuban was president? So a couple things. One, you know, when this thing first hit or we really, you know, when the NBA closed down, we knew we had a problem, right? And so they put together this thing called the PPP, the CARES Act Stimulus Program, and

it was a great plan. And if it would have hit right away, April 1st, like they had hoped, we'd be in a little different position because more people would have been able to stay with their companies and all that. But that's not where we're at because we got all the stay at home that's extended longer than we expected. It's going to take more. So right now, I think we need a stimulus program to create demand.

And so one, I think we need a federal jobs program. We need to hire people because, look, we've got 33 million unemployed, another 20 underemployed. The government needs to hire people to do tracking and tracing and testing and to help people who have preexisting conditions or elderly can't leave the house and need to be protected. We need people who can do all those jobs and the government should be the ones hiring them now so that they can start doing these things that we need. And that reduces unemployment.

And then on top of that, you know, just kind of the idea that the folks have had is that we'll just keep on doing the same stimulus for small business, right, the PPP loans. And we'll keep on extending that. But I don't think that's going to work because that kind of creates zombie businesses. You know, here's money to keep your employees hired, but they don't have anything to do. That's not productive and doesn't get you anywhere. Honestly, I'd rather see us take, they have this thing for social security recipients called Direct Express where they just auto deposit money in your account.

I'd rather give everybody something like that and say, you know what, bro, you have to spend a thousand dollars within two weeks. And if you don't spend it, you lose it. And that way you're going to get people spending money. That way you're going to have business coming into small and large businesses. And when you have that demand, they need their workers to work. That keeps people employed. And then if that's not enough, but that doesn't jumpstart it, then you do it again in two

weeks. And then you do it again. But you know, if there's 150 million households and we gave them all a thousand bucks every two weeks, that's 150 billion dollars every two weeks, 300 million a month. And then we could go six months compared to what, what we've already tried. So I'd rather see something that stimulates demand if, if that's part of my, if you guys approve, right? Cause it's going to be part of the PMT platform.

Right. And we could actually just, you know, dumb that down and be like, Hey, you guys remember the movie Brewster's Millions? We're just going to do that. Bingo. That's exactly right. Done. Okay.

And I need your, uh, I need you to agree on an idea that I had to start the pandemic because you are someone in a position of power who can get this done. We have to learn from this pandemic. We can't be naive and think like, Oh, this could never happen again. So my idea is every single sports franchise needs to every single year play a game that is secretly taped that we do not know the result of and then save it in case of something like this happening again. Because could you imagine if we had even your, the, the champ, the NBA champion, Mavs

from that season playing a game against the heat in, you know what I mean? Like an extra game and we broadcast it and it's like, boom, you don't know what's going to happen. You can bet on it. You can do everything. We need that. Okay. Done and done.

Man. The secret tapes. Yes. NBA. Every sports. Every sports. So I'm holding you to that. I need you to, it could even be, and it could be like a very competitive inner squad scrimmage

where you, you know, like everyone you're keeping score and it's a real game. That would be fine. I would take that. I agree, man. You could take like your two-way players and the last three guys, four guys on the bench, throw them in to kind of an early game. Like you used to have the JV before the varsity, throw them into an early game, kind of like the G. Lee games and just hold it and not tell anybody.

Yes. Oh my God. All right. Just something. Yeah. Just give us something. Add that to the BMT platform. Boom.

I think this is a winning ticket. Yes. Like right away. Who's saying no to any of this? If you're, if you're doing these games in Vegas, have you given any thought, because we thought about this during the NCAA tournament that almost happened, but it didn't. If you just had one fan, one celebrity fan from each team sitting in the stands, like on opposite sides of each other.

So at least you, you get somebody there. That's actually a great idea, right? And just like auction it for charity or whatever, but just to have like, if we played the next fight Lee, right? Yes. And maybe Jamie Foxx from Dallas, right? Whoever. Um, I love that idea.

Add that to the PMT platform. Okay. Drake for every team. Yeah. Or you, you can be there for the MAZ, but you have to wear the, uh, like super baggy jeans you used to wear in the MAZ football jersey. Throwback. I might have some of those back in a day because I keep everything.

See, if we had the old tapes, we would be watching not only like a MAZ game from 2006, but we were watching you and your fashion from then it would be incredible. It'd be incredible, including, including my and one slip on issues. Hell yes. Yes. Um, I saw in the news that you had a brush with, I'm sure you've, you've had more than one brush, but a brush with Michael Jordan, uh, when he was deciding to go to the wizards play, get ownership, uh, what was that conversation like?

Cause you were trying to get him to come to the MAZ, right? Yeah. So, um, David Falk his agent called me up. I mean, he's an agent, right? He wants to get to know a new owner and he's like, why don't you come to DC and come to my office and Michael Jordan meet Michael Jordan. And I'm like, yeah, of course, you know, are you kidding me? And so I get there and he's got all these papers spread out and he starts telling me

about how he's going to the wizards. I'm like, don't sign it. Don't sign it. And I try to give him that last minute bitch, you know, and, um, you wouldn't go for it. He's like, look, Mark, I really appreciate it, but I gave my word and I'm a man of my word. And so to his credit, he signed, but it was still the biggest mistake of his career. Dan, that would have been awesome if he had gone to Dallas.

Yeah. Have you been watching the documentary, the last dance? Oh hell yeah. Absolutely. So I was actually curious to talk to you about this because when they had the bulls together in the nineties, there was a very, very big problem that they had with who wanted more credit for winning these titles, right? You saw it with Krause.

You saw with Ryan Zorff, Ryan Stork, you saw with Jordan and Pippin. When you had a successful Maverick's team, when you guys won the NBA title, it was a 2011. How did, how did you handle that? Was there a part of you that was like, I want credit for being the guy at the cubes that turned this entire franchise? No man, I was happy for Dirk. I was happy for Jay Kidd, for Sean Marion, and Tricks.

Who else would you have? Tyson Chandler, you know, Deshaun, all the guys, man, it was their trophy. Yeah, Karan. And even when, like, even when you had that trophy handing over ceremony where the commissioner stern gives you the trophy, I had him give it to the original owner of the Mavs, Don Carter. Rest in peace, Mr. C. And so I didn't care about the credit, man. I just wanted to drink the beer and party and carry that mother, carry that sucker around.

And actually, you can't see it, but Larry O'Brien is right over there behind my desk. Nice, nice. So when you, have you ever, you know, you had your, the NBA, you bought the team, David Stern was still the commissioner, rest in peace. Did you ever ask him on the side? Because this is obviously the conspiracy theory everyone's talking about. What happened with MJ and his retirement? Did you ever have that conversation with him?

Yes. Yes. Okay. But he wouldn't tell me. Nothing. He was like, shut up. Don't be stupid. There's nothing.

Did you ask him about the Ewing, the frozen envelope for Patrick Ewing? Did not. Okay. But you guys want to hear another Michael Jordan story? Yes. This is the first time I got to really hang out with Michael. And so that was a golf tournament and Reno. And I'd never been to Reno.

And so Charles Barkley says, okay, we're going down to play blackjack. So come on down. And it was the craziest moment. So there's Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan, Pete Sampras, Mary LeMue, and me at this blackjack table. And I pull out a hundred bucks, you know, because I'm like, I didn't bring money, got it up. And Jordan looks at me, he goes, what the fuck?

He goes, you can't play $100 at this table because he's playing like 10 grand and Barkley's playing like five grand. And he goes to the casino guy. He goes, Mr. Cuban, give Mr. Cuban a million dollar line of credit. Casino guy goes, Mr. Cuban, would you like a million dollar line of credit? I'm like, sure. Oh my God. So damn, I got in there.

And you know, I played a thousand bucks a hand, which was like the most I'd ever played at that point. And I mean, it was the blast. And then we ended up with Charles Barkley. We went to, with all the guys actually went to this party they had and Charles literally bought 50 bottles of tequila and was handing them out in front of this deal. Oh my God. One of the best party nights ever.

Incredible. How did MJ do at Blackjack? Was he a buy the book player? Yeah. No, he played, he played normal strategy every now and then he deferred, but he played two hands. So he was playing like 25 grand and 25 grand. So he got actually, he wanted to play two hands and we didn't have the slot.

So he left our table, went to the one next door and I'm watching him going, oh my God, these guys are hardcore. They were really into it. Yeah. Was he wearing his jeans that night? The big baggy ones? He wasn't wearing a suit. Yeah.

I don't remember what he was wearing. Damn. I don't remember what I was wearing either, but it was probably the big baggy jeans then that, you know, that is a squad. Were you up that night? Did you win? Um, yeah, but like two grand or whatever. How does that work when you get a million dollar line of credit at a casino?

Did you feel like you were actually playing with house money at that point? No, no, no. I knew I'd have to pay it back. It wasn't like that at all, man, cause you, they make you sign this little thing that um, says, you know, matter what, here's the money. Here's your 5,000 or 10,000, whenever I got in the start, here's your buying and you owe us this money. And oh, by the way, we will hunt you down if you don't pay it.

And so yeah, it wasn't like it was house money, it was my money and I knew it. We're going to get back to this interview with Mark Cuban, but real quick, let me talk to you about our good friends over at Pandora. We've all been getting creative with the stuff that we've been doing at home and Pandora thinks that we deserve a great soundtrack to go along with it, whether you're putting on a station to pump you up before your Peloton rides. This is true. I did this the other week on Friday, I believe, tossed on Imagine Dragons radio on Pandora.

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I'm always curious, do you and Jerry Jones ever talk? Just like talk shop owner to owner? Yeah. Has he asked you for advice on what to do with DAC? The only time we've talked shop like that was, golly, who was the coach? The guy who was the defensive coach went to Buffalo. Wade. Wade, yeah.

Wade Phillips. That was the only time, and I actually called him, he didn't call me, because I had just gone through some things with my coach, and I just said, you know what, here's what I found out, you can use it or not use it, and we never really talked about it after that. But Jerry and I have stayed friends. I mean, I like the guy. Do you have season tickets to the Cowboys? Yeah, absolutely.

I've got a suite. Okay, nice. We'll go to that whenever you want us to come down. Anytime. As soon as we can have people in the suite, yeah, we'll be like your version of Chris Christie hanging out in Jerry Jones suite. Bring it. I'd rather have you guys.

Yeah. I mean, thanks for the invite. Appreciate that. I won't wear baseball pants. We got to discuss our political platforms. You guys have to be there. Where else are we going to have our meetings? You can't, you know, you got to have them at a game.

Kick ass and take names. That's the Cuban 2020 platform. Dessert cart for everyone. Boom. Wait, did you guys come up with this platform when you were in a suite? Yeah, we did. Absolutely. So season 11 finale of Shark Tank is tonight.

What was your favorite investment from this season? Um, okay, there, there was this, um, oh my God, what the snack, snack lens. Okay. So, you know, I'm, I'm always looking for new good ways to eat junk, right? So there's this thing called snack lens, which are the best dippers ever in the history of the world. They're like, they're crunchy and they're scoopy shaped and you can just scoop in anything, right?

Whatever dip you got, right? And they're amazing. They taste good. All these different flavors and they're only like 80 calories. So I literally buy these things by the box and they've just blown up with everybody staying at home. Everybody just watching Netflix and eating all the nonsense we love to eat, right? That's been my favorite by far.

And it's not even, what, one other one that's closed is this thing called unreal deli. It's like, I went vegetarian and so I love corn beet. I got to have my, my Rubens, right? And so this thing called unreal deli is, is, is amazing. Uh, I like the idea of the snack lens. It's like a spoon that you can eat. We actually have a little spoon, right? We got a great spokesperson, I think for snack lens and she is electric.

She's guaranteed to get impressions on social media. The snack. Oh yeah. The snack girl. You should hire the snacking girl to do your jingle for you. Have that girl. Yeah. Have you seen us?

You guys do no wrong. Yeah. You guys can get nothing wrong. I'm down. Let's go. Sounds like you're regretting never investing in my brain the way we're talking right now. You know what?

I kinda am. Yeah. Yes. You would have had a great ROI. I, I just remembered this. So it's been so long since sports have been around and it feels like the last two months have been a year when, when the NBA season first got suspended, there was a clip of you finding out on your phone and then showing everyone on the court.

How thrilling was that moment? It was brutal. Man. I was like freaked out. I was stunned. But you know what? You know, when something crazy happened, you gotta tell everybody. Yes.

So I'm like, wow, you know, it was, it was wild. I mean, because we had talked about it in the locker room beforehand and even Luca had asked me what's the chances of the season getting suspended or canceled. And I'm like five, 10%. I don't see it happening. And then that was before the game. And I walked out. I remember telling Michael Finlay, you're like, I walk out from through the tunnel and

I had no idea how many people would be in the stands, you know, because there could have been, you know, half the crowd, right, or 10 people there. It was packed. And I'm thinking, well, you know, maybe this thing isn't as bad and these folks know more than I do. And then third quarter. And you knew something crazy was going to happen because Bobon had the game of his life. You know, Bobon put up 31 and 15.

And so it was just a crazy night. But yeah, when that, when that thing hit me, I was stunned. Yeah. It's, I mean, obviously it's terrible news, but it's, it is thrilling to be able to tell everyone news that they don't know. You got to. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. And like gauging what they feel about coming back. Yeah. We have a group chat. And so everybody's throwing up dumb stuff on there, but every now and then there's a real question and we'll have another, we'll have a zoom again with all the guys, I think in a couple of days and everybody's just ready to come back, man. They're bored.

Yeah. You know, they want to start working out. They want to, you know, get back into it. You know, they're basketball players. There's athletes. They don't want it off season. They want to play. Who's the most active on that group chat?

Courtney Lee. Yeah. Okay. Is he a big gift guy? Yeah. Oh yeah. Gifts and videos and just crazy stuff. You know, I love it, man.

It's awesome. Do you, how much do you think goes on on the group chat that they don't have you on? Oh, all the shit that gets really talked like, like put the goofy stuff in the one out, man. Yeah. I'm not stupid, man. I already know. Okay. I already know, but that's okay.

I get enough of the spillover that it's okay. Okay. If they do the league in Vegas, are you going to go to the quarantine islands of the hotel, California? Absolutely. So you're going to quarantine yourself along with the team. Do you think that other owners are going to do that? Do I care?

Hmm. Probably not. You guys should, you should have, we should have owners wrestle too. There ain't no wife will put on an MMA. Yeah. There should be a separate wing for just the owners like owner house. Yeah. They try to do that during all star and that doesn't work, but hey, just Google me and

WWE. I know. You'll see how I get it done. Yes. I know. I know how many companies you're up to now because last time we talked to you, you're one of your, one of your lines was like, I got a company for this, I got a company for that.

How many do you have right now? I think it's like 210. Woo. Damn. Yeah. You ever think about just giving like a random person on Twitter, one of them? No, no. Cause then I feel guilty like, you know, it's, that's a lot of work.

Okay. What about a random podcaster? What do you got? Tell me, but tell me a company that, that needs some, uh, a kick in the ass by us. We'll take it. All right. We'll, we'll shape it up. We'll make, we'll, we'll live stream it.

We'll do a video. Ever. You can own the video. Let's, let's go with snack lens. Let's go with snack lens. I'll just, I'll just send you just boxes and boxes of snack. You'll have snack lens everywhere. We'll send you some dip, whatever you want.

Snack lens. We can do that. We can do that. Just snack. We're doing where me and Hank get up to 200 pounds and big cat gets down to 200 pounds. Yeah. We're meat in the middle. Okay.

So if I eat enough snack lens and big cat eats just like a sensible amount of snack lens, then it's per se. I'll tell you what, no big cat, if you want to lose some weight, let me just tell you, I've got this company, Alyssa's healthy cookies. You can get them on Amazon, but I'll send you a bunch. That's my breakfast every morning. What? And they have, that's why I was, you know, I was doing the water to get them out of my

cookies. That's what I was eating. Whenever I have a sweet fix, these things are high protein, high fiber, low carb. I've had these before. I actually am looking at it right now. They are good. They're very good. Not to give you any more plugs that, you know, help you out, but they are good.

I have had them before. Yo, let me, let me just tell you, big cat, let me take the story on this guy. So this guy, um, Doug emails me this cookie and it's like, it's good. I like it, but it just needs to make some changes. But the better part is the dudes living in his car with his wife and daughter just stuck. And he's like, I got, I can't get this to go. I live in Florida. You know, what do you think you can do to help me?

I'm like, okay, look, I think I can help you because the cookie tastes great, but it falls apart. Let me find a better way to do it. And so I invested and got 40% of the company living out of his car. I did a couple of, um, sampling sessions at local, um, um, grocery stores here. And that was in 2012. This past year, 2019, they did almost $20 million in business and he made 10 million in profits.

I mean, from living in his car, that's how good the product is and we don't spend anything on advertising. It's just an incredible product. You actually, now that I'm remembering it, I'm looking it up. You sent them to me, you sent them to me like two or three years ago or someone from your office. Yes. I sent it because I was like, why do I recognize those cookies?

Yes. They are delicious. And I really, I would say any cookies delicious, but they were delicious, but they're delicious and healthy. That's the thing, right? Right. A list is healthy cookies. I love that they got a cookie and they go, you know, who would love this?

You know, who loves cookies? Seriously. They, someone from his office hit me up was like, we got a hoverboard and cookies. You want them? And I was like, yeah. The hoverboard. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. Do you know, do you know how much you're worth? Right now? No. Really? I would like always Google myself and my net worth if I were you. Just guess. Yeah.

Yes. I did. I used to, I'm not going to lie. I used to have a thing in my wallet that had my net worth. So like, I looked to see what was in the bank and add it all up and in a spreadsheet and all that, but not anymore. Just take a guess. You know, it just depends on what you value to match that right now.

You don't know. We're shut down. Just Google. What Google.com says. Oh, I don't know. Four point something. Yeah. Four point three.

That's pretty close. Yeah. Nice. If I had said three, you would have been like, fuck. Yeah. No, man. It's like Forbes always asked me, you know, is this correct? You know, we're doing the Forbes 400.

Like I don't care. But the first year I did care. Yeah. The first year I was like, no, this isn't right. This isn't right. And then I got on there and that was cool enough. And so it was like, nah. All right.

I got one last question for you. I've been very curious about this and I know that the NBA is on the forefront of sports gambling and trying to get ahead of it. Do you think that there will be states coming out of this pandemic who are like, we need to get some more revenue going? Do you think the gambling legalization will kind of hit like a supercharge here in the next year or so and more states will see it happen? 100%.

Absolutely. And absolutely. They need the tax revenue. Right. And are you going to, are you like the minute you can get one inside the arena, are you in for it? Oh yeah. I mean, look what's going on with the wizards.

You know, the, Ted, the honestest is just all about it, man. They've done a great job figuring out how to integrate it and make it fun and entertaining and get more fans and yeah, absolutely all in. I love that. That'd be such a good addition to a game where like in between quarters, you can just go out and put a live bet on the game. That's sweet. Oh yeah.

All the prop bets and everything. Oh man. It'd be insane to be nuts. Yes. My last question, there are two different organizations near and dear to my heart that I'm not athletic enough to actually play in that have come up for sale recently. I want to know if you've given any thought to either one of them. The XFL declared bankruptcy.

So they're coming up for sale and USA Rugby also declared bankruptcy. Okay. So XFL reached out to me, two different groups reached out to me, but it's just too much. I've got too much to deal with, with the Mavs, right? So I can't get into that at all. USA Rugby is different, man, because you know, it's something closer to my heart as opposed to football and I just got to get through this first. I mean, with all those companies, right, trying to help everybody, trying to figure out how

to get the Mavs back in here. I just got too much shit going on just to take on something new. That would be important to me because with nothing worse than saying, okay, USA Rugby, let's do this and get it done and then not be available to help them. So you know, I kind of told them it's not out of the question and I'm doing this other little thing for them. So yeah, if I can help them, I will, I'm just, I just don't have time to deal with it right now.

Okay. But not a no. Again, not a no. Okay. I got two rugby balls over there. So if everyone, when you guys come and we go to a map, when we go to a Mavs game, we're at Cowboys game this week, we'll bring the rugby ball, we'll toss it around in the suite and show some what a real sports all about.

I love it. Um, I actually have one last, last, last question. Um, wait, I was going to fuck. What was it? Ask him how horny Barbara is on set. No, we know. Horny. Oh my God.

Barbara loves us. You can imagine. She loves us. She was draped all over me like a nightshade. Oh yeah. She was great. Wasn't she? I remembered it.

I remembered it. Do you, uh, Indiana guys, I would assume that you talk every now and then to Isaiah Thomas. Is that a fair assumption? Have you talked to him at all about what we've watched in the last dance? No, I have not cause I don't want to be that guy that just only tell me what happened just like I didn't reach out to MJ. You got to give it some time. And then when I see him, when we all get back together, yeah, I'll ask him.

Yeah. And I'll ask MJ and I want to know like Charles won't tell me about his deal with Michael either. They, I mean, they've had a falling out again. So, uh, I hope they, you know, figure it out, but yeah, it's, um, it, we've joked that I think half the reason why MJ did the documentary was to preserve his legacy and half was to just shit on Isaiah Thomas. Oh, absolutely.

It's great. Because it's grudges, you know, oh my God, and Michael holds them, man. I love them to death, man. MJ is a good dude. When you just hang around them, you know, he's just fun to be around and he's got a good heart. But, um, yeah, when he's pissed. Yeah.

Wait, when you're hanging with Michael Jordan, is he, he's the alpha in the room, right? Hell no. Oh, what? You're not the alpha. Is he let you think you're the alpha? Let's just put it this way. Let's just put this way. When Michael Jordan bought the Charlotte Hornets, they asked him who do you want?

What kind of owner did he want to be? He said, I want to be like Mark Cuban. Oh, interesting. I still think he's the alpha in the room. Yeah. What, what move did you pull on Michael like the first time that you knew that you needed to alpha him? I'm not talking like a friendship type hang that you were having, but like a business relationship

type hang where you were like, I need to let him know who's nuts hang lower. Sean Brasso, he was with the wizards, right? And we were playing the wizards and, and he didn't like Sean Bradley as a player. And I'd said, I'm going to tell Sean Bradley and Sean Bradley is going to kick the wizards ass and we're going to beat your ass. And he was like, you know, cursing his ass. So he's up in the suite and I'm down on the court and we just torch him and the whole game every time Sean Bradley scored a basket, I would just pull him and give him shit.

And so, you know, you know, and then, you know, we've done some deals and everything now and then. But, um, yeah, Michael's Michael's a good dude, but he knows when it comes to business, now he's on my turf and he ain't got it. There's just no chance. He's going to make another documentary in 30 years about how he bankrupted. You know what? Bring it.

Bring it. Alright. You know, basketball, you compete for 48 minutes. You practice a couple hours. You guys know in business, it's 24 by seven by 365 and everybody's trying to kick your ass. Everybody's trying to come after you and you got a battle all the time. Sports are easy.

Easy. What is this? Is the ultimate competition. Right. Am I right? Yeah. You're right. You're right.

What about you and Elon Musk, the two of you get into a room together. Who's the alpha? Yeah. I don't know him well enough, but I give Elon respect, man. He's just all tunnel vision. You know, there's no people skills there that I've experienced with Elon, but I respect the hell out of him. Right.

Because he goes, Elon's like the only business guy or business person where he does something I think, why the fuck did I think of that? Right. The only one ever. So I give him his props. Okay. That's fair. Tunnel vision.

Yeah. That's a good line. Always season 11 finale Shark Tank tonight. There's nothing else on. So you got to watch it. You got to watch it. I mean, come on. Shark Tank is the best and there's no live sports.

So watch it tonight and bet on it too. You can, I think you bet on it some places. So bet on it. Perfect. Perfect. Well, thank you. Appreciate it guys. All right.

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Okay. Let's get to our Mount Rushmore in our documentary review. We have some ideas, by the way. People are saying the IFA is Wi-Fi at the show. Oh, there was going to be Wi-Fi at the show. Okay. Someone is saying it's chill relax infinite vacation. I like that.

So if no, that's still it's not chillax chillax invocation. It's chillax if occasion in this one's probably the right one. The IFA would define the act of chillaxification of his tour, which we said. Right. Okay. Trust the process. Trust the process. Yeah.

I just chillaxification. I'm so mad that this tour is not going to happen. I know. What the fuck? I was looking to chillaxify. It's driving me nuts. We should do a part of a chillaxification episode of part of my take. Yeah.

We should do that instead of like every single, I don't know, every other Wednesday besides D&D, we should chillaxify. Okay. We should do a segment. Your chillaxification of the week. Okay. Let's do our mouth flush where then we'll finish up with Ronnie Coleman, the king. Mount flush more of wait, is this, no, this is Mount Rushmore of life's little embarrassing

moments. Yeah. That would be right. Yep. That would, it would be a Mount Rushmore, technically. Okay. So I go first. Yeah.

Um, Mount Rushmore of life's little embarrassing moments. I'll just go with the old faithful, uh, like we're introducing yourself to someone who you know, who you've met before, who you work with, and just being like, Hey, how you doing? I'm Dan. And then like, yeah, we've met. Yep. That is hard. I did that like a year ago.

I was like, Hey, what's up? I'm PFT. And they're like, Yeah, I know, we work together. That person I've been working here for like two weeks, hadn't met him yet. They're on the third floor, but it's bad. That was tough. That's why I always go with the tried and true. Good to see you.

Hey, chief. Hey, pal. There you go. Or just introduce someone right next to you. Yeah. That's a great one too. Yeah. Or do the old, how do you spell your name again?

And then they're like, uh, it's J O E. Fuck. Okay. Hank. Uh, the subway, if you're in like a line in the subway, your subway card's not working and you're just standing there and it's scanning and like there's someone behind you and you're just like, I don't know why it's not scanning, but I have money on it. Similar.

I mean chip, card chip readers, the same thing. It's like for whatever reason you're at the store and the, and the card chip readers is not reading. Dude, I did yesterday or two days ago when we were back in here, I was, I parked my car in the lot and I went to pay, put the chip in and it said, do not remove chip. And for some reason, my brain just stopped and I just pulled it out. Yeah. I do that.

I was like, sorry, dude. You know what? It says remove chip on there. And so sometimes you skip that. Also, I don't like being told what to do by a fucking machine. Oh, so, but then it's a whole process. Okay. PFC year two.

All right. My first two, just a classic tripping on the sidewalk in front of a bunch of strangers breaking your foot. If you trip on the, well, I didn't actually didn't really trip when that happened. I kept walking. Tripping is bad. But tripping in front of strangers is just, it's tough to come back slipping on ice. Really bad.

Second is going to be messing up a parallel park when there are people around and you just know that everybody that's watching you is really fucking good at parallel parking. Yep. And you're going back for like your second or third shot. Yeah. It's tough. Yep. Where would you rank our friend Brandon Walker when he came to my neighborhood two weeks

ago, couldn't parallel park his car. So I had to do it for him. That's a cucking. Yeah. That's a parallel. And I got it on the first try. God damn. Brutal.

Hank. I think you own his car. I do. I do too. Yeah. You own his car now. I do too. Oh, it is me.

Having like your boss or someone that's like a superior to you or like a girl just be like you have something on your face. Yep. Yeah. Something right there. Something right there. What's your beard? It's your big cat beard.

Mm-hmm. Is it by Barstool Big Cat? Yes. Love it. Okay. That's a good one. I will go with the accidental reply all in email or replying to someone you didn't mean to reply to.

Cousins of the screenshot text and send to someone. You send the screenshot text to the person who's going to try to reply all. Well, so it's way that's a major embarrassment. That's not life. Yeah. That's a life. It's like technological screw ups where you just send something to someone you're not supposed to send it to.

So it's like, yeah, that that is a major, major screw up. I think Steve Jobs should actually get on that and there should be some sort of AI program where they they can prevent that. You know, when you send an email out, Ellen and she can call them. Yeah. When you send an email out and it says, it says, like you mentioned the word attachment in this email, but there's no attachment. There should be something on an iPhone that recognizes when you're sending a screenshot

of that conversation to that conversation. Yes. Yes. All right. My next one is taking a huge shit in a public bathroom and then having someone walk in right after or standing like right outside of the bathroom and you're like, okay, like the unisex bathroom at a restaurant and then there's like a hot woman standing there waiting and you're like, ah, well, I mean, what restaurant of any class is a unisex?

A lot of them. A lot of them. Like the vast majority. They're like, yeah, I don't think you've been in a nice restaurant before. No, yeah. What? Like a small, nice restaurant will just have two bathrooms. Oh yeah.

I guess a new year. Yeah. They'll be have singles. I'm not talking about stalls. I'm talking about when you go into a single, you could be at work. It could be, you know, at a restaurant and you just drop heat and then the minute you walk out, there's someone just standing there and you have that like moment where they know and you know and you're just like, okay.

I'm such an asshole though that like that doesn't embarrass me because I don't know the person that embarrasses me so bad. I also like the thought that Hank has just assumed that he's been nailing it going into the boys bathroom every single time. Not realizing that it was for anybody. It's a very, it has to be like very close quarters and they can, they can sense the heat coming from the bathroom before you even like pass them. That's when it's the worst.

Pulling a push door. Easy. Simple. Yep. Yep. Yep. It is tough. And there's, there's a push door here that I pull every single time.

We've been in this office for over a year. I don't think I've gotten it right once. And I get embarrassed every time that I have to turn around and make a joke and have me like, haha. Yeah. Classic. For my third one, I'm going to go with telling a TSA agent, you too, when they tell you to have a nice flight.

Yep. Well, not TSA. The TSA people don't fucking say that. They're too mean. The woman who checks your bag or a man who checks your bag. Or like the cab driver that drops you off the airport. Yeah. Yeah.

When you check your bags, you're like, have a great flight. Saying, have a great, saying you too to somebody that tells you to have a great flight. That's not having a flight. Or when you go to a movie and they take your stuff and they're like, enjoy the show. You're like, you too. You too. Boom. Well, actually, you'll just be standing right here.

It's one of those things. You take two steps and your body just feels hot. Shit. You're like, god damn, I screwed that up again. My last one. My last one, I'm going to go with not being able to finish a meal in company. Wouldn't know. Yeah.

That one I would never know about. If I got embarrassed by that, I would live my life in a constant state of embarrassment. If I ever, once, ever in my entire life didn't finish my full meal, then I would maybe feel embarrassed. You've never happened. Absolutely. At least one time, not finished a meal when your eyes are bigger than your stomach. No.

Yes, you have. Because you, you're a serial over-orderer and then not a meal finisher. Wait, no, no, no. But over-ordering and not finishing are not the same thing. Yes. No, they're not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is different.

No. I'm talking about you get an entree. Yeah. When I over-order, it is, we are, I'm saying to the world, yo, we're having one of everything. I don't plan on finishing all, that's a totally different, separate category. Where PFT is talking about, and I agree, when you have like one dinner, it's, it's, you have a piece of steak and a potato. Always finished.

What I'm referring to specifically is when the server comes over to clean your plate and takes it and says, did you not like it? Yeah. Or your eyes were bigger than your stomach? Do you want a bag? Yeah. Being a grown man, getting asked if I need a bag to walk out of a restaurant so I can carry my food that my body wasn't able to process, that is as embarrassing as it gets

for me. Hank, do you not like my over-ordering? No, I do. I was just thinking like, it's never happening that I haven't finished a meal and I've thought back to many times where we leave up a table where there's a lot of food left. Right. Totally different. But I think being an over-orderer.

I'd love your over-ordering. Yeah. Because I'm a snacker, I'm not someone that gives a shit. Like I don't get embarrassed about leaving food on the table. I'd say this. So when you over-order, I'm like, yes, because now I'm not going to get like shamed for being the only person leaving food. I'd say it's same.

So I enjoy your over-ordering. Yeah. It's like a top four asset that I have as a human being. It's decided. If we go out to dinner, I have no problem of being like, yo, let's get all the appetite. And even though I am a big time, my eyes are bigger than my stomach, but I like to snack on different apps. Correct.

But I know that if I was by myself, I couldn't order all the things because I can't even finish my entree. But in theory, you want all the apps. Sometimes I'll order two entrees. So when I'm with you, it's nice because I'm like, I don't have to say anything. Sometimes I'll order two entrees. That's king shit. On my last one, I will go when you're, when you're parachuting and you pull the parachute

too early and you fall to your death. Classic. That's a little, oh, call of duty. Oh, okay. I didn't get that at first. Also real life. Yeah. Yeah.

But really embarrassing call of duty. Especially when people are watching you and you just know like there's, you just blame the servers. Throwing interceptions. Yeah. These are all real life moments when F should be going in the chat. This last one I have might be, I might be telling it all myself. I don't know.

I think a lot of guys have this happen. Just a little tiny dribble on your pants. That sucks. Yeah. Just a little dribble. And then people start doing the math. Yeah. They're like, that's where it's in.

Okay. You can't control your, your, your penis and your P. I'm like, no, actually I cannot. Yeah. I cannot. I can't get it back in and it needs to breathe a little bit. Yeah. I'm, that's, that, that one sucks and you have to like do the thing where you kind of like shield yourself.

Um, old school one obviously calling your, your teacher mom or just saying, saying, I love you to someone by accident that you shouldn't say that to, um, like PFT every day for the AWL. No, I say that with a great amount of intent. When you can't pee at the urinal is one that I think a lot of people experience. I don't have a problem with, with stage fright at a urinal. Um, in fact, I take great pride in being able to walk into the center urinal when I'm flanked by, by, uh, bogies on either side and just letting the stream go.

But a lot of people have problems with that. That's got to be very embarrassing. Reading words phonetically. Yep. Yep. Uh, for, and then getting called out on them. But you nailed phonetically. Yeah, you did.

I'm so used to being like, whoa, it's a compliment. So was Einstein. That's a comment. Uh, playing pick a basketball when you get a perfect pass and you miss the layup. That's brutal. And you're just like, okay, now everyone's looking at me on the asshole. Um, Getting caught in a lie.

Just in general. Yeah. Like a white lie too. Yeah. That's what, yeah. Obviously like a big lie wouldn't be embarrassing, but if you're like, no, I already ate. If somebody's serving you something you don't like and it's like, no, you didn't. Yes.

Yes. Uh, this is a small embarrassment I get all the time because I just don't know New York city enough. Like I just haven't, I'm tunnel vision, like go to my house, go, go to work. When someone asks for directions in my neighborhood and I've been living there for three years and I can't give them to him. Yeah, but, but in New York, it's not rude to just do the walk by and not even acknowledge the question.

It's like when you're walking, I'm walking Stella. So they're like, Oh, this person lives here. And they're like, what street is this? And it's one street over. I'm like, I don't know. The thing is Stella probably knows the answer. Like in her, if they're asking like, Hey, where's the coffee shop that I'm looking for? Well, it's like we've walked past this a million times.

It's the one that smells like treats. Yes. Uh, what about accidentally tweeting the same thing twice because you thought that it saved a draft and it's still, it's still loaded in your phone. So it's not like you're retyping it, but you send it twice and then you have to delete one of them. And then everyone's like, boom, you got caught. Yes.

Yes. Um, or missing like a major plot line in a movie or a like show or something because you weren't really paying attention and then tweeting about it and everyone's like, you're a fucking idiot. That sucks. Uh, any other life smalls and small embarrassments getting swept in ping pong. Yep. That's a really big one.

That's a really big one. Uh, if you just fart and like, like thinking no one's going to come over to your area and someone does, yeah, that sucks. When you're like, I'm in the clear. If you're like in your cube and you're like, I'm good for that. That can be a rush though. Like there's a, there's a rush in like trying to put off a fart on some, oh, what is like like really trying to throw people off the stench.

But sometimes you know that they know that you're just doing that. But sometimes when you earnestly get away with it and you're like, Oh, what is that? And someone's like, Oh, it's definitely that guy. And you're like, yep, that fucking asshole, sneaky one is, is eating smelly food in front of other people. Like if you eat tuna fish, which is delicious, but you're like ashamed of it. I hate that. I'll just stuff it in my mouth in the kitchen just so that people can't look at me all weird.

Yeah. It's definitely a bad one. Yeah. All right. We've got a big show coming Monday. Should we say who we got? Let's do it. Yeah.

Carl Malone on the show talking last dance ish MBA. Just whatever came to Carl Malone's mind. Yeah. He kind of dominated our interview. I took a shirt off like PFT right now. Actually, I took my shirt off for a little bit there too. And then I realized it was fat. Let's talk Ronnie Coleman, Ronnie Coleman, the king.

So we're doing a documentary every Friday. Are we going to do next Friday? We're going to do it. Dude, perfect. Yeah. I think we have to. No, no. My enemies yesterday.

I can't watch that. Yes. No. Let's do it. Dude, perfect. Let's fucking do it. Drop the documentary about their lives. I actually don't know what it's about.

Let's do it. We're going to watch it. And then they tried to come back at me online because I said I was going to hate watch the fuck out of it. And then they replied to me, we still haven't broken up yet. So we're on their radar. Damn. All right.

So we're talking shit. Perfect next week. Ronnie Coleman, the king. I'm going to do my documentary throughout there. I will say my bad because it was not as good as I thought it could have been so much better. It was so weird and just kind of meandered. But Ronnie Coleman is still a legend. He is a legend.

They were just bouncing too much into his real life. Right. I want or not like his current life, like the story is what I wanted to know more about. Yes. But like the day to day, like I'm super sore and I just go to the gym and stuff like that was too much of that for me. One thing that that I noticed that I think we've been kind of talking about a little bit the last couple of weeks is that he trained in the shittiest gyms.

Yes. And I think that those weights are in fact heavier in shitty gyms. Absolutely. If you go to a place that's 100 degrees inside, that's got cobwebs and dust and shit everywhere, you're going to get a better pump than if you go to a golds gym in Manhattan Beach. I also don't fully understand. So the guy who owns Ronnie, the gym that Ronnie Coleman went to, Brian Dobbs, and he was part of the documentary and he obviously looked like he was in insane shape like 15 years

ago. He looks like shit right now. What's the point of lifting so much if you're going to look like shit later? Right. Old bodybuilder bodies are very, very strange to look at. Yeah. Actually Ronnie Coleman, outside of the veins, like his body still kind of held up except for his back and all those.

But I'm saying like visually his body still, he looked like he had a six pack and he looked ripped, but he was an insane athlete. The fact that he won eight times in a row like is crazy, crazy. And I love the part of the story where he like kept on struggling to win and then all of a sudden he just drank vodka and ate pizza and was like, boom, next thing you know, it unlocked all of my like abilities because he was a little bit dehydrated. He was a little dehydrated and also just needed to loosen up. What was the coffee combined with the vodka?

They're both diuretics. Right. They both suck a little moisture out of your body. So your veins pop the next day. I was a little disappointed. I saw too much of bodybuilder Jay Cutler because bodybuilding Jay Cutler was just kind of like a, if you know, you know kind of guy for people that had stumbled into pictures of him when they Googled images for Jay Cutler, the football player and their pages is filled with this

shirtless bronze guy. Now I know that he's a real person with thoughts and feelings and not just somebody that pops up on my computer and make me laugh once a year. So like I could have done with less of him. I thought it was interesting how he should have won the Mr. Olympia the year before. And it was a makeup call the year after because in the moment the judges are wowed by Ronnie Coleman. And then in hindsight, once the media reports come out saying, oh, this is a lifetime award

that they're giving to Ronnie Coleman, then they change their minds the next year. He was such a beast. And I love the part of the documentary where they had all the old bodybuilders talking about like the nineties bodybuilding circuit. And they're like, it was fucking fierce. Like if you had elbow dude to get into the to your spot, you would it's like talking about the bad boy pistons. They didn't show any of that footage and also I would have loved to see like a little elbow.

These massive human human beings who could kick the shit out of anyone, like bumping each other slightly saying it was fucking intense, bro. Yeah, I like how he how he put a big emphasis on drinking coffee, vodka. And then just getting tan before a show. Yes. So it's like this. Anyone at the Jersey Shore could be a bodybuilder and put their mind to it. Kind of a problematic part of the movie was when Ronnie Coleman said that he took 30 milligrams

of oxycodone. No, four times. So 120 milligrams of oxycodone a day, which actually is probably prescribed because he has so many injuries and then had his two little girls like driving his car. Yeah. That was that was a wild scene like, wait, hold on, you don't do that. He got taken to account that a guy that size probably has tolerance built up. Yes.

But still, it's not a great thing to be taking pills and then driving your kids around. He's still lifting. His back is broken and he's still lifting and he would do those leg presses that were that's how I fell in love with Ronnie Coleman to begin with was the he would do the videos where he'd be like, lightweight, lightweight, another bit of peanut. And then he would flash to him leg pressing 2000 pounds. Isn't that kind of crazy though that he broke his own back by being too strong and then kept lifting through it?

So he he is stronger than himself. He's stronger than his own body. The story about him breaking his back when he's doing like 800 pound squats and then says, oh, I felt something pop. And then he said, yeah, and then I went, I went home, I showered, I got ready for work. And then I realized, oh, my back is broken. I'm shocked that as a law enforcement officer from Texas, he has not been asked to be the guy that escorts a college coach out to midfield yet because they got that dude in Louisiana

that walks the LSU head coach out. There's a state trooper in Texas that's famous because he's seven foot one and like 320 pounds. And he's always around college football programs. I need Ronnie Coleman escort. He should be coach Doug's escort out. Yes. I mean, I love the guy. He's a legend.

He's this guy in the world. One of the best competitors ever. Also kind of a weird, the weird vibe of the movie was like you said, Hank, they kept on going to his like present day home life and his, I don't know what it was about his wife, but it was like, she was like, yeah, we just run this house. Like we just run the house. Like he's really good father. It's like, is there love here?

I don't, it was very bizarre. I think at one point she was like, there are different household patterns that we have to enter when Ronnie's out of town. Right. That seems, you're taught by household patterns, you mean like kissing your kids good night. Yeah. Like what is going on? And the whole, it just, it sucks because I thought the documentary was going to be so

much better. It really has potential. It just, it just felt totally flat. Ronnie just seems like someone I want to be best friends with. Yeah. He's got such an awesome personality. Yes. Him breaking down in 98, like that was a pure sports moment.

Like I didn't really, I still don't really understand. Like they were explaining that he was coming in six and seventh and eighth and not doing well enough. And then he drank and all of a sudden won. Like I don't understand the qualified, they really explained the qualifications of like what he did that made him so much better when he won versus before like, was it just vodka muscle tone? Yeah.

All that stuff. It's like tone, symmetry, and then the vein there. He had these muscles. But they basically, they didn't really explain me that like it wasn't, it was a documentary that was made for bodybuilders, but for casual viewers, like I didn't really learn anything about bodybuilding. Right. It's a subjective art.

So you can, I think most people can look at two bodybuilders and be like, damn, that dude's jacked and holy shit, that dude's swole. So like Ronnie Coleman, when he won in that first year, I think it was a year, was it 98, I think. So when he like turned to the side, he had abs on his ribs. Like they were, they're just muscles in places that you cannot, the most fucked up artist in the history of the world has not designed a human body that looked like that. Yeah.

I mean, he's chiseled from, from stone. Um, yeah, I guess they do a, they like sashay around and they do a whole spin and everything. I don't know. The, the, I agree with you, Hank. They could have given us a lot more backstory on like, what does it take to be a bodybuilder? What do they do? Like I wanted to see Ronnie's workouts every day. You know what I mean?

Like all that stuff was just, we could make one. And the viral videos, like I didn't even see any of those really. Like the stuff you see from him on YouTube that got him famous, like Warren, that, that I thought that was going to be a part of it. Yeah. The, everyone should go down a rabbit hole of Ronnie Coleman because his YouTube's are fucking awesome when he's just. Beasting just insane weights.

He did the 800 pound squat twice. He says that he thinks he could have beaten the record, the, the one in his peak. He could have beaten the record that just got. The deadlift, the 1000 pound one that the mountain has. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah. That's what I love about when I see bodybuilders walking around with their little Tupperwares

filled with, you know, the, the nine meals that they have to eat every day is just imagine them in the morning at their kitchen counter, like with these tiny pieces of chicken, putting them specifically into every single Tupperware and like scrubbing out the insides of them. That's very funny. That was my other note. Speaking of what we were talking about earlier with not finishing meals, I'm pretty positive that Ronnie Coleman eats my a week of worth of my food in one meal. Yes.

Yes. He eats chicken tenders on a, on a plate for like that was one meal. I was like, I don't, I would not eat that many chicken tenders in a week. Yes. That was an insane amount of food. Either way, he's a legend of the game. I just really was disappointed. I don't know.

It just sucked. I wanted it to be so much better than it was such an interesting like topic in your right hand. Like go give us the backstory of Mr. Olympia. Give us how their judges do it. How give us everything. Tell us the whole circuit and everything. It just never happened.

I'm going to put my hand. They got like five guys to be in the documentary. Yeah. That was it. Can I admit something? I was in the Bo Jackson Jersey. I, like what you were saying, like I didn't realize he was a bodybuilder till he said that I was a bodybuilder with my, like he did, I actually wouldn't, now that we're talking

about it, I wouldn't be shocked if they did start this documentary and ran out of money. And they just said, let's focus, let's focus on your home life. Yeah. Does it cost us anything? Yeah. I actually, now I'm thinking about it. Kind of gives that vibe. Yeah.

Um, I didn't see, I didn't watch the last like 15 minutes. Nothing. I, uh, I missed out on the, did they get to steroids at all? No. So that, that I was thinking that the entire time it's like we're doing an entire documentary about stereo or about bodybuilding and we're not going to mention steroids whatsoever. Yeah. I don't know.

I think Ronnie Coleman was clean. You think you, yeah, just all natural. Yeah. Bro, you got to believe in something. Ronnie Coleman's a hero. All right. We're going to do dude. Perfect.

Next week. Hank. On my protest. What? You're not going to watch Corey, Cody, Cody, Toby, Brody and Stan? I'm so excited to break down their personalities and how they interact with each other. For sure. We are going to get to the bottom of everything.

Yes. It is going to be a deep dive into their brains. Come on, Hank. First try. All right. All right. See you everyone Monday. Love you guys.

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