Pardon My Take - Mark Cuban, This League, And Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

The NFL is gone and it's time for THIS LEAGUE. Ja Morant vs the Warriors and Ben Simmons vs his own team (2:37 - 13:40). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Mark Dantonio and the Iowa Caucus (13:40 - 30:28). Dallas Mavs owner and Shark Tank investor Mark Cuban joins the show to talk about whether or not he regrets not investing in Big Cat's brain, the future of the NBA, investing on Shark Tank, and all the different companies he owns (30:28 - 81:58). Segments include bachelor talk for guys that don't watch the bachelor, hope he sees this king, and guys on chicks..You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Mark Cuban. The long-awaited Mark Cuban interview is finally here. We luckily caught up with him in South Beach during the Super Bowl week. It was by happenstance and now we have Mark Cuban on the show. We've been trying to get him on the show for four years.

Time interview, talk everything that you can imagine for 40 minutes, so great, great interview coming. We have some This League. Kind of crazy because there are a lot of Cubans down there walking around. A lot of Cubans down there. We found him. We found Mark Cuban. We don't hate that.

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Okay, let's go. Welcome to part of my take presented by the Cash App, go download it right now, use code Barstool, you get $10 for free, $10 to the ASPCA. Today is Wednesday, February 5th, and it's this league time. All's over, so it's time for this league. They wasted no time getting back into the petty wars today. Almost a little too perfect timing with football done. I'm convinced that there was a script going around to the Golden State Warriors, to the

Memphis Grizzlies, to Woj, Woj probably wrote it, as a matter of fact, and get Wendy involved in there too, Rachel Nichols, all the key players. This was like Sweep's week, everyone, they knew now's their time to strike, and they did it with the perfect timing. Hats off to David Stern. And as all NBA beefs go, they always, all roads lead back to Kevin Durant. So here's what's happened, essentially, everyone knows that Andrea Goudala got traded in July for cap relief to the Grizzlies.

He essentially said at the time, I'm not playing for them, trade me to a contender. It was all kind of agreed upon, like everyone said, this isn't a real trade, he's going to eventually play for another team. He has not played all year, he's not shown up, he's not done anything with the Grizzlies, because he kind of said he wasn't going to, which is okay, because he admitted it, and I think the Grizzlies were like, that's fine, we'll trade you. Last night, who was Dylan Brooks was asked about Andrea Goudala, and he essentially said, we can't wait until he gets traded so we can beat his ass and show him what this team's

about. Because the Grizzlies are kind of a fun young team with John Morant. Then of course, it went to Twitter, and he did say though, his quote was like, it's not a distraction at all. I laugh at that type of stuff. It's not even there, right? So it's like, it is at this league where the words have definitely gotten misconstrued, but it's fully fledged now.

This is the only league ever where somebody that hasn't been on the team all year can get into a fight with somebody about not being on that team. When it was agreed upon that, he would not be on that team later. So Steph Curry then responded with an Instagram story with Andrea Goudala holding the Larry O'Brien Trophy. And like, hey, look, he's got a ring, why don't you shut up? And John Morant, which I love, Future Rookie of the Year, responded with Kevin Durant being like, hey, who won those rings?

Kevin Durant. And that's where this league reaches its final destination. Kevin Durant being used to somehow cuck the Warriors success is perfect this league. Yeah. He is the straw that stirs the drama in the NBA. Right. And it's great. Yeah.

Whenever you see him like he was making like the shrugging sign, that was the perfect matchup to the emoji that was used. This is why I think that it was all written out was because the emojis were locked and loaded to be matched up with the pictures. Mm hmm. It was almost a little bit too perfect and too coincidental. They need to have something to talk about going into the All-Star break. This is the perfect way to get it going again.

I love what John Morant did as well because he is a Steph Curry fan and he admitted it right away because of course, once he goes at Steph Curry, everyone will go find his tweets saying Steph Curry is the man, Steph Curry is awesome, you know, three years ago when he was in high school or when he was in college. So he just admitted it. He's like, I'm not deleting it. And yeah, I've always been a Steph Curry fan. I'm just not scared of anyone.

So I like this. I like this from John Morant. He's an incredible player, but on top of that, it seems like he's got a good personality because most people would like, you know, get mad online or deleted after a little bit or walk away or get on their burner. He just owns up to, he's like, I was a Steph Curry fan. I'm not scared of anyone. I'm really good.

He always shocks me when I watch a highlight of John Morant just dunking on somebody, just being ruthless because his name's Jha. It seems like too Rastafari respect of a name for someone who's not very chill at all on the court. It's also shout out to the Grizzlies, by the way, because they've been wearing their throwback jerseys. I think they wore them last night. Awesome.

Grit. The teal. No, no, the Vancouver ones. Yeah, yeah. The teal ones. Yes. The original big country. They're awesome.

Those are great, great jerseys. The mid-90s was really a bad time for a lot of stuff in general, but not those jerseys. Yeah, they should bring those back full time because they are, they pop, they absolutely pop. Okay. It turns the Mississippi River, the coast of the Mississippi River into like a little bit of South Beach, having that teal and that pink and red on there. It's gorgeous.

We also have this league because Ben Simmons called the Sixers soft. He said, we're soft. Jay Butt ate that ass last night, which was the easiest bet of all time when you watched the fact that I think Kylie Jenner or is it Kendall? Kendall. Kendall was in South Beach for the Super Bowl. All the Sixers were at the Super Bowl. Of course, they were going to get the shit kicked out of them against the heat on Monday

night. Yeah. And it's, I mean, the Sixers are in a big time problem. Trust the process. They don't know what to do. They have two guys that can't play together, and now you have guys, you know, I mean, he did say we are soft. So at least he threw himself in there, right?

But that's really a joe on beat of soft. How many threes has he made this year? Two. Yeah. Okay. Is that over under still at like seven and a half? I'm not sure where it is because I really want to get in on that. Now, Stephen A Smith was pissed off last night.

I saw that he was saying, what in the hell capital H ELL is this? I've been watching the Sixers trail on the heat by 35 damn points. What the hell they do when you, whenever you get at least two hell and damn points, and a Stephen A Smith tweet, you know, he's pretty upset. Did they party with the chiefs after the damn Super Bowl Brown running this spur system? Tim Duncan and Tony Parker ain't walking through that door. Damn. So that's, that's three dams, two hells, which are all fine.

That's just generic profanity ass, hell, damn, it's all out on the feed, no swearing on the feed though. Otherwise, but yeah, Stephen A Smith is very, very upset with the current state of the Sixers right now. I've had a long standing theory that any team from a cold weather city or city that's going through cold weather, whenever they go to Miami, bet against them. Yeah. Of course.

And I mean, it's doubly true when you can see, you can literally go on Instagram and see them at the game having a great time. The Sixers are horrendous, horrendous on the road. Are you Hank, where are you at with the Sixers? Because that was for a while, it was like, Hey, the Sixers and the Celts are going to have a nice rivalry going forward. I'm sure they'll still have bubble up in the playoffs. I mean, that's Ben Simmons is saying that, but it's more of like a midseason, like we're

soft. It's not like the NBA, it's like until the All-Star break, like they still have time to turn around. It's a very, it's a very weird team though. I mean, they smoked, they smoked, they smoked the Sixers on a Sunday. That was great. Celtics are banged up too. So I don't know, it's one of those, the NBA, I feel like you have to wait till the All-Star

break to really, really decide who's, who's here to play and who's not. And we have, I think, trade deadline coming up on Friday, so maybe something big will happen. Or nothing will happen, everyone will say, damn, this trade deadline sucks. It seems like it's going towards that one. When is the trade deadline like during the day on Friday? Or is it in the evening? It might be Thursday.

Yeah. So that's going to have to be one night that we see. Yes, it is Thursday. I remember we got, we got like blindsided by a couple of trades a few years ago, right? That wasn't the trade deadline though. That was just so, that was when Boogie got traded randomly after the All-Star game. So that was not anything that we could, you know, expect. I think it's in the middle of the afternoon though on, on Thursday.

Either way, this league is back. It feels good to be back on this league. I don't, the NBA knows how to get people interested right as soon as football ends. So good job by them. By the way, we're watching, you can watch us, barstoolgold.com slash PMT, the Mark Cuban interview. You can watch that whole interview, barstoolgold.com slash PMT. Can I put a little tickler out there?

Yeah. In the PFT basketball prediction market. Okay. I think the heat are going to make the Eastern Conference finals. Oh, wow. Do you then admit that J-Bud is good? No, I think that they're going to do it. He's a nice number two.

Do it in spite of him. In spite of J-Bud. Who's their number one? Yeah, no, he's. Can you give us a number one PFT? No, it's probably J-Bud. Bam Bam? I'll be honest with you.

It's probably J-Bud. Hero? It's probably J-Bud. Hero's nice. I think they're going to make the Eastern Conference finals. I think they're just one of those teams that they all kind of like each other. Oh, okay. I think they've got good chemistry.

There it is. The chemistry can go a long way. Chemistry actually. Go hand in hand. Yeah, he is the chemistry king of South Beach. I'm actually on Jimmy Butler's side. I think that the other four teams he was on that he completely ruined, it was everyone's fault. Wow.

Are you then going to say it's addition by subtraction, the fact that Dwayne Wade retired? Absolutely. Yeah. Shout out to you. Donis Haslam still being on the heat. Oh, yeah, dude. It's awesome that he's still out there. Doing the damn thing.

He's just out there every single night, you know? Not every single night, but some nights. I can't imagine he's playing at all. No, he's not. But he's out there. Yeah, he's averaging 5.5 minutes if he's only played two games. He's out there. He has been out there twice.

Yeah, good for him. All right. So are you going to buy a heat jersey? You should. I'm going to buy a bam jersey. I'm going to get a Kelly Olenek jersey. Okay, there you go. Clinic.

You got the roster up now. I got the hair for him. I knew Kelly Olenek was on there. Kelly, is he even playing? Kelly Olenek? The clinic? Yeah. He's just playing in a heat place.

He's called Namesome Heat Players. Justice Winslow? Yes, that is one of them. Okay. Kelly Olenek? Bam is awesome. Bam is awesome. Heroes awesome.

Dion Waiters? Edible God? Yeah, Edible King. Drogic is good. I like Drogic. That's about it. All right. That's good.

That's PFT's prediction quarter. I think they got Myers Leonard, too, from Portland. Who? Oh, yeah, yeah. A couple weeks ago. Illinois having a huge year. Okay, let's do some Hot Seat Cool Throne with big news. It just occurred to me why I like Miami now.

Because you were there? Yeah, if you get me drunk in a city, I'll be like, that's a cool city. I like their teams now. I'm going to support their teams. There it is. I was intoxicated. Miles Leonard, all-time bad tattoos, by the way. Yes, but, yeah, he's also, it's really tough when you're a seven-foot white dude.

Like, what do you do? And especially when your name's Myers. Not get blessed. Like, what do you do though? Yeah, but you can't... Yeah, but you can't... You don't have many moves. In cursive.

The only move is to make millions of dollars in the NBA. That's about it. And everything else is going to probably not be a move that looks good. I think you just... Maybe get the Euro haircut. Listen, if you're a seven-foot tall white dude, there are worse things to be in life. Yes, yes. I mean, but what Hank is saying though, getting tattoos, any kind of style, it's all not going

to work. You know what I would do though? I would go vaguely European if that were me. Yeah. I would make people think I was European. To the Duke makeover. So yeah, even if I'm just a white guy from Virginia that grew up to be seven-foot tall, I'm going to do like the faux-hawk, I'm going to start...

I'm going to get a Croatian crest tattooed on my shoulder, and I'm going to put a little umlaut or something in my last name. Just do it. And extend my career by five years. Yeah. I mean, all the Duke guys do it. All the... I mean, the Plumlee brothers are...

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Absolutely. Hank, your Hot Sea Cool Throne. My Hot Sea is the Mets. Mets fans everywhere. A few months ago, there was news that the Wilpons were finally selling the team. This guy, Steve Cohen. And then today, there was a lot of reports saying that the Salis and ownership and the Wilpons aren't going anywhere.

The only statement the Wilpons have put out is that the parties are subject to confidentiality obligations, including a mutual non-disclosure agreement, therefore cannot comment. So they got cold feet. So if you're a Mets fan, you're like... They were free. Yeah. And now they're not. Actually, it sounds to me like a case of pre-buyer's remorse.

So like knowing that you're about to get buyer's remorse before you even complete the sale. And it's got to be one of those things where like now it's going to be scarier for other prospective buyers. If it's like, well, this guy was in, now he's out. Now he's out. And who wants to, yeah, because it seems like the Wilpons have that weird thing going where they don't have money to spend, but they have the team. That's brutal.

Yeah. It's not a good spot to have your team. If you love the Mets, have an owner who doesn't want to spend money, but doesn't also want to sell the team. It's their greatest asset is the team that they don't spend money on. It might be a good move financially for the Wilpons to like actually say that they're going to sell the team, enter into like a preliminary agreement. And then all these sponsors start coming through because they're like, oh, it's not going to

be managed by the Wilpons anymore. They start closing new deals left and right all over the place. Get a big like Bud Light Seltzer sponsor out in center field. And then the Mets are like, actually, you know what? We're going to hang on to it. But you know those contracts that you signed, still ours. Kind of stupid that Steve Cohen didn't put in no backsies in the deal. Like that's lawyer 101.

No backsies. Right there. And make them sign it. Spends on though, if you're a Mets fan, you're probably the least likely fan base to contract coronavirus because there's nobody else at the game to cough on you. True. Safeest place to be in the Eastern Seaboard. Fucked up of Netflix to like their main, the first thing that popped up when I opened

it up was like a pandemic. How to control an outbreak when it happens. Oh, that was smart by them. That was like Uber surge pricing. Yeah. Everyone wants to know about the coronavirus. And now I'm fully like it's happening. Yeah.

It's like it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when I thought you had it. You were sneezing. Hank sneezed like 15 times in a row on the way to the airport. And I was like, it's it. That's it for us. I mean, I probably do. My other is every time I get a boner, though, my other hot seat, well, chocolate milk. Do you see that guy?

He, he removed the milk part of it and was just chugging chocolate syrup in the Senate. Yes. As one does. Hell yes. Power move. Yeah. Chocolate milk. It's got to be looking at that picture.

Being like, Oh fuck. If you're negotiating against a guy like that. You've already lost. And then my cool throne is my chest and all of our chests. Mm hmm. The bench press is finally fully operational. Nice. It's what nine months.

Nine months. Did you just say that you want us to sit on your chest? Nine months. I just said our cool throne is your. I'll sit on your chest. All of our chest. Nine months and we got the bench set up. It's not about time.

It's about the bottom line. We're a bottom line company. True about gains. True. It's absolutely true. Good point. So what's what's the workout regiment going to be like? I say that we crank out a set before every single show.

I'm down for that. Okay. We got to move some stuff around. That's the only problem. We just got pretty tight before every show. Maybe off days. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

We'll we'll have a regiment. P.F.T. What do you have? My hot seat is the state of Iowa. So we still don't know what's happening in Iowa right now. They had the caucus last night, which is when. I've never understood what's happening. It's fucking hilarious.

A caucus, as I understand it, is a bunch of people go to their old high school gyms. They hang out. It's a little bit too hot. There are no snacks. When they kind of select which candidate they want to support, then they go stand in a corner, look across the room at other candidates like a middle school dance. Don't get close. And then the people who are undecided, a.k.a. the biggest fucking idiots in the entire world

who don't know who to vote for after nine months of having these names shoved down their throat every day, then they stand in a corner themselves and asked to be invited to other corners. Not all UN for adults, but the stakes are very, very high. And we just decided we let Iowa decide everything. That's a good way to. It's kind of like the BCS, the old BCS committee. And then you've got Mayor Pete, who claimed victory, kind of like being Texas A&M, putting

up national titles on the stadium. Did you see though he gave a really nice like walked back a little because he did claim victory. And then I think he was on a morning show and he basically said, well, it's a victory to be, you know, to get this many votes on a campaign that was just started nine months ago. Exactly. Nobody knew who he was nine months ago.

So yeah, it's a that's a nice spin zone. I actually was saying that Klobuchar should have said that when she because she was the first one to come out and speak when all this confusion was going on because we still don't know who won. She should have just claimed victory immediately. Right. Because if you're the first Klobuchar, I'm just going to say it, this probably might be out of turn, but that's not an electable name.

She sounds like a left wing Russian like sniper, a left wing Russian, not left wing like left wing politically. I'm talking about actually on the ice. Oh, gotcha. Yeah. Klobuchar. No. So you would probably like Klobuchar.

Okay. I respect the guy. Can't you just see like Sergey Klobuchar, big signing for the Blackhawks. If you could, if you respect the guy that's chugging chocolate syrup, Klobuchar eats her salad with a comb sometimes when she has not that. That's more of a lunatic move than chugging chocolate syrup. That's a move that you do so no one comes and talks to you. Which I also respect.

Chugging chocolate syrup is a move where you do it to stare down your opponent and they know to, you know, turn over and let them pet your belly. I think saying like I'm crazy as fuck enough to eat my salad with my own comb is kind of an intimidating move. I would not want to deal with that person. That's all I'm saying. But she should have just claimed victory. She didn't.

So I don't know what's going on right now, but I guess there was a big app mishap and I can't really think of like, so people that run elections are usually what in their 60s, 70s, 80s. It's like them and football coaches are the two people that you don't give them an app to make anything better. Just give them like they're all map pictures. Just the app? Definitely not.

Just give them a pencil behind each of their ears and paper. But right now Iowa basically fucked up and I think that Iowa has lost their going first privileges. In the future. But no. They still will get it. I don't think so. You think they're going to take it away?

I think journalists are going to take it away from them and give it to Florida because they'd rather go hang out in Florida. You're underestimating how much journalists dislike being cold. No, I understand that. I'm just saying, I feel like you can't take that away. That's something you just can't take away. Iowa gets it. Iowa goes eight and five in the Big Ten West and they get to decide the president every

four years. Or just put coach for instance in charge of the caucus. That would work. Yeah. And my cool throne is mock drafts. So it is officially mock draft season right now day after the Super Bowl. We're heavy into mock draft. Todd McShay is already on mock draft 2.0.

I have no idea when mock draft 1.8 or 9 happened. We're on 2.0 right now. He said 2 is better than Joe Burrow. Well, I'd like to go ahead and trademark this phrase. If 2 is healthy, I just trademarked that phrase. So you're going to hear that probably a million times between now and the draft and it's going to be used to say, well, he's going to go anywhere between number three and number 32. So if 2 is healthy is officially property of pardon my take, please credit if you end

up using it. Anytime you think it. Also, my other cool throne is Jacksonville. Oh, yeah, that sucks. Because the Jaguars announced that they're going to play two games back to back in London this year. Now you might be thinking that sucks for Jacksonville. Sounds like the Jaguars are moving to London.

You'd be wrong because Edward reported that what's actually happening is the Jaguars are doing two games back to back just so that they can have enough money to totally redo their stadium and Jacksonville better fan experience is going to happen for their home crowd. They're not divorced. He's just sleeping on the couch. Listen, honey, I'm not I'm I'm only having sex with this other woman so that she can teach me new ways to not make you come right.

So that would definitely work tricks. That is, there's nothing worse than when the NFL decides to just move franchises around right in everyone's face. It's like, we know what's happening. Two games in a row. I can't think of a quarterback less suited for British life than Gardner mentioned. Bring the chargers to Jacksonville and have the Jaguars and the chargers play every single game against each other with Phil Rivers.

I'm down for that. That would work on both sides. Yes. Right. Right. Right. I don't know my knowledge of rappers. Hank, do you know who Smoke Purp is?

Loosely, but that's he's probably more in the Liam age bracket. Liam, do you know who Smoke Purp is? Yeah. Love part. You love part of it. Let's get it. Let's get it. Yeah, we know we know Smoke Purp because Adam Schaffler said, leave me on Bell's catch me

if you can album release party took place this morning at Miami nightclub Rockwell. Bell walked into that club at 2 30 a.m. with an entourage that included fellow rappers Smoke Purp and they were seen partying all night at their table next to DJ booth. Adam Schaffler tweeted that. If you had Adam Schaffler tweeting Smoke Purp in 2020, you're a winner. What do you think Adam Schaffler's autocorrect hit when it when it popped up sink smoke? I don't know, but he's he's got a smoke. Purp.

That's heavy drugs. Is it not? Purp. Purp. Purp is heavy. We're talking Purp. Not the E not E. Just marriage.

Marijuana. Isn't but isn't that like a you can also drink the barb. No, no, he's just he's just smoking the Purp. Yes. He's not drinking a not leaning. He's not sipping syrup. He's chopped and screwed. Not according to his name.

No. Smoke Purp is just a weed reference. Okay. Smoke Purp is one of the names where it's like a little ghost dog. Yeah. If you name yourself Smoke Purp, you probably don't even smoke that much. That's like a try hard move. Right.

It's like, I bet you Takashi 69 only like gets his dick sucked. I don't see him going down on girls. Smoke Purp. Yeah. Smoke Purp better have the fattest blood. That's a lot of, I mean, people are definitely expecting things out of Smoke Purp. So Smoke Purp, Adam Schefter, I'd like to see Adam Schefter, Smoke Purp. Could you imagine Adam Schefter, if you would like to smoke Purp and come on our show, we

will do a show with you smoking Purp and it will be a major, major hit. All right. My cool throne is one Andy Reid's wife because Andy Reid slept with her instead of the trophy. So good to know that you're still the number one in the relationship. Love that. He said he slept with his, he spent the night with his trophy wife instead of the trophy. Love thinking about Andy Reid getting those cheeks. That's a lot of smoking.

That's a lot of soaking. And then my other cool throne is Mark Dantonio because he has stepped down. He's retiring as Michigan state head coach and it's a cool throne because just in the nick of time he's stepping away from Michigan state because his former recruiting director Curtis Blackwell filed claims that Dantonio committed NCAA recruiting violations as part of an ongoing lawsuit. That happened yesterday. So big.

I don't like what you're doing here because you're smart by him. You're being part of the gotcha journalism establishment in America. If you read his statement, he is stepping down to spend more time with his family. That has nothing to do with the fact that he was accused of numerous credible violations yesterday. Yes. And also two weeks after he got paid $4.3 million bonus that he doesn't have to give back.

Again, he wants to see his kids little league games. Smart. Smart. So yeah, good job, Mark Dantonio. You're on the cool throne. They cannot get you now. Mark Clowntonio. You're out.

You're out. You're good. I'm actually glad that he's retiring because I'm sick of confusing him with Mike Dantonio. Yeah. That was too much. Two Italians with those same. Yeah. Very, very confusing.

But yeah, he's good. He's in the clear. I love when coaches just leave and just leave a pile of shit for their program. So the peak Carol. Yeah, the peak Carol. The peak Carol guy. Hey, I'm out. So he's just hoping that Coach O will come to Michigan State in like six years.

Yeah. Almost bail them out. Actually, Nick Saban. Go home. Nick Saban. How bad would it be if Urban Meyer went there? Oh, that'd be so funny and beat the fuck out of Michigan from the end. Your angle.

Yes. You know, you know, the thought has occurred to him in the last six hours. Oh, man. I think it's Luke Fickles going there. Coach Cincinnati, who was coach of Ohio State. So maybe that's maybe that will be the way that Michigan State gets back on top of big brother. They call.

Yeah. Which one's big brother? Big brother's Michigan. Are it still? That's what they say. I don't know. I feel like you're twins. No, that time that they won the national championship by beating the YMCA of Detroit

in 1902 still counts. Yeah. Didn't they teach like the Red Cross? Yeah. No, they invited. They invited schools to come play football and teach them how to play football, then beat them by like 70 and put it on the record books. A great gig.

Honestly, yeah. It's a great gig. I respect it. That's kind of what the DNC did to Bernie. If Wisconsin had the foresight to do that, I'd be talking about those national championships. Yes. On a personal note, I don't know what category we need to put this under, but I'm feeling a little directionless after NFL season's over.

Okay. Don't you have the XFL? Well, I do have the XFL, and we'll discuss that next week. I'll say it's good. You'll say it's bad. Are you honest? I never said it was good. I said it was going to be honest.

But I feel like every off, what I like to do every off season is get a new hobby, like improve myself, better myself over the time that I have. Sounds like a firefest. Sounds like a firefest. Yeah. Could watch basketball. Could watch your Miami Heat. I could watch my Miami Heat.

I could also, I've been meaning to get that Gwyneth Paltrow show the Goop about a vagina. Yeah, the vagina candle she makes. Yeah. Well, it's about, it seems like it's a bunch of stuff that wasn't well written enough to go on like a closed Facebook group. So Netflix said, hey, let's just give you a TV show where you put out all your junk science. It seems interesting to me. So I feel like maybe, I don't know, maybe I'll get into the Goop.

That works. This off season. Let's Goop. Let's Goop it up. You want to Goop it up? Yeah. Let's be a Goop podcast. We'll re-cash the Goop.

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We now welcome on, Mark Cuban, a guest we have been lusting after for many years. I was one of your first guests. No, no, no, this is the video, so you've, I've wanted you to come on part of my take for a very long time. Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's true. And it so happens, we are in Miami, we're taping this right before the Super Bowl. The Penn National deal gets announced and a lot of congratulations come my way.

All of a sudden I look at my email, I have an email from Mark Cuban, replying to an email asking him to come on part of my take from 2017. That's a power move to just reply to a three year old like Wasteland, you know, threat. Sometimes you got to take your time to get it right. So you, you replied and we have to, we're going to talk about everything, but we have to at least address this at first because you had an opportunity not only to invest in my brain, but to have half of Barstool for free. Yeah.

And he buyers remorse. No. Because you wouldn't have even had to buy it. No, because who needs the fucking money? I got plenty of that shit. You don't want $250 million. It was 160. Don't exaggerate.

Oh, you looked at the deal. You looked at the deal. And you don't own it all. Yeah. I'm a shark tank motherfucker. All right, all right. You got it. So wait, so did you, I mean, do you remember when we came in and took it to you?

Yeah, of course. Yeah. I mean, that was one of the best gets ever. Yeah. Think about it. Oh, it was real. Think about it. Yes.

No, well, think about it. Trademarking. Think about it. Yeah. Because now you're thinking about it. Now I'm using your eggs. Think about it for years. You're thinking about it now.

I owe you money. I owe you money, but you didn't trademark it. Think about it. But I did. You did. Of course you did. I was actually very upset with that video because Big Cat, this is before I worked with Barstool.

Yes. But Big Cat hit me up. He's like, Hey, I'm about to sit down and mark Cuban. We're going to pitch him some stuff. Do you have any ideas? I gave him a great idea, which we've subsequently pitched to Rob Gronkowski, who loves it. Yep. But you shot it down in about half a second.

It's called protein. Yes. Okay. Protein, it's an after workout drink. It's got alcohol in it. Still sucks. It's got caffeine in it. So what you do, you hit the gym, you work out, you drink your protein, you get your alcohol

because you're ready to go out for the night and you've got caffeine in it to get you going for the rest of the evening. So I feel like it's an all-in-one drink. So it's for loco with protein. That's exactly what I'm going for. And college kids would eat that shit up. And I was a little bit offended that you shot it down so quickly. Deal with it.

If you had the bell, you would have hit it. You would have hit the bell again. I would have hit the bell. That little bell that you were just digging on me. You know, it's just so easy, right? Because not everybody likes the same kind of alcohol. And so you can go for loco if you just want the buzz and the buzz, right? Or you just whatever kind you like.

Like I've invested in this company called BSB, Brown Sugar Bourbon. The shit's amazing, right? It's going to take over. It's, you know, it's just good. Check it out. And so I'd want my bourbon in there. Gronk might want something else. You might want vodka.

Vodka probably goes better with protein, depending what flavor, protein, right? And then your caffeine that goes with it. There's just so many variables. You just see when it comes to mixing caffeine and alcohol, you have to be precise. There's probably some regulations that come in that's dangerous. So I just pay off those motherfuckers. So you, you, the thing that makes me happy though, is that you have been thinking about it.

I think about it. Think about it has been rattling in that. In my mind. Yeah. Five years now. Five years. Think about it. God damn it.

That's actually better than you buying us. So do you regret though not investing in my brain? Because I just, I remember I was having some, I was game a little too much and I needed the cash. I need to get liquid fast. And I was going to give you 10% of all future earnings for $1 million. Do you regret that? No.

That was a mistake though? No. Because you think I would have just been lazy after you gave me the money? Yeah. Sometimes, you know, yeah. Like you said, you wanted liquidity. I wanted you to starve and struggle and see where you got you. Yeah.

Right? See, because if your back's not against the wall when you learn the most when shit ain't working, right? Right. And you have to hustle the most when you think it's the darkest. And that's where the best entrepreneurs learn the best lessons. So you owe me money for saving your ass. It's true.

That video was very funny because Dave, you know, pitched barstool to you. You boiled it down to, you guys are in the hard dick business and you told Dave, you're like, you have a great product, but you work too hard and you need to find a way to make it easier to make it bigger. And I remember Dave when you said, no, I'm not investing. Dave walked out and he was like, Mark Cuban likes us. I just got to keep grinding. And it's like, no, it's the opposite what he said.

And finally we've realized, you know, we've hired 215 people. Yep. Congrats, man. A ton of, you know, staff and everyone. Every step along the way, man. I had my first company. I was 24 at the time and we had $84,000 in the bank and this lady, Renee Hardy, right? We had all set up.

I thought I used everything I learned at Indiana Business School and I'm like, okay, for our accounts payable, we print out the checks to the vendor and we just give it to Renee and Renee is going to put it into a little see-through envelope, lick them, mail them, right? Renee Hardy takes it to a fucking old typewriter, whites it out, puts her name on it, takes it to the bank, bank caches the shit, right? So within one day we went from having $84,000 in the bank to having $2,000 in the bank and all these unpaid vendors who were pissed, right, that we had to work through.

It was hard. I mean, it was, it was fucked up, but best thing ever happened to us because it made us get our shit together. And then, you know, that company turned into a $30 million company that turned into another company that turned into streaming that turned into the math. Right. And so you got to, you know, sometimes your shit's got to be against the wall to really get it going.

Right. And that's what you guys find it. It's nice you left you two grand though. Yeah, man. That was polite. Fucking bank, right? So I go to the bank and I'm showing them the checks and like this, this lady whited out her name, typed it in and you cashed it.

This old Texan dude goes, motherfucker, you ain't got a pot to piss in, do what you got to do. I'm 24 years old and there's this head of the bank and I'm like, damn, right? That's amazing. I feel like there should be some regulation that should force banks not to take checks with white out. Well, you know what? That's why you never see that anymore.

Cause we changed the law. Right. There you go. What do you like Frank Abagnale? A long time ago. Yeah. A long time ago. That's crazy story.

Um, you and I are not so just similar. You might not believe me right off the bat, but you got your start, you sold software, right? Yeah. I was first to use dog salesman, then I sold software. Same thing. You sold used dogs too? No, just software dogs, you know, whatever, yeah, whatever you get your hands on yourself.

Now I'm doing this. Now I, I've worked my way up to the point where I own a lacrosse team with big cat. We own a basketball team in New Zealand, the New Zealand breakers in the NBL. Wait, is that with Sean Marion? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's our business partner and my ultimate goal is to own the Washington Redskins.

So I need some advice from you about how to get from where I'm at right now to get to, you know, my ultimate dream, which is taking that team from Dan Snyder. You got to find an angle, right? Because you got, you, you've got your audience. You've got your partner now, but now that you sold it, right? You need something to get, to get the cash to do that because it ain't going to be cheap, right? So the biggest fortunes are made with two things, something, something that somebody

does where everybody says, fuck, why didn't I think of that? And then you need a little bit of luck. Like if we would come up with streaming, but the internet stock market wasn't happening, you wouldn't know who I was. I'd have a nice little streaming business, but, you know, I made a shitload of money because I was lucky the stock market was happening. So you've got to have the right angle where everybody looks at and goes, damn, if you come on Shark Tank, those are the best deals.

Like I wish I had thought of that. Right. What about this? Uber, but with a dog in the car. So the Uber picks you up and there's a puppy that you can play with. You also have to be capable of doing these things. So you use dogs. Right.

I've got them. I've got the connections of all my vendors back in the day. So like I can, I can. You go ahead and try. You go ahead and try. And maybe Daniel Snyder needs a dog in his car and you guys will work out. And then the dog kills Dan Snyder. And then I take his team.

There it is. There it is. You just said something that's interesting though, because I feel like guys in your spot and maybe not everyone, but a lot of people in your spot who've had a ton of success, they don't, they will not acknowledge the luck factor. Oh fuck yeah. And luck. I mean, how much do you think luck played a part in everything that you built?

So I was rich before I got super rich. Right. I sold my company. That's a cool thing to be able to say. There's a big difference. Right. There's one. Like I sold my first company.

I was 29 by a lifetime pass in American Airlines, party like a ride start, you know, I could just travel anywhere. It cost me nothing. Right. Just my goal was to get as fucked up with as many people as I possibly could around the world. And I was really good at it. And then I started trading stocks, made 20 some million dollars doing that, started hedge

funds, sold that. Then we get my buddy from Indiana came back and it was like the internet thing was starting to happen. And this was 95 and net, Netscape had just gone public. And it was just like, wow, this whole internet stock market took off. And I never thought we'd go public. Right. We're just going to run a good business and see where it took us.

But I mean, that's where it really, really happened. And I remember, I'll never forget. We went public in July, it was July 18th, 1998. And I remember saying to my partner, Ty Wagner, that if the stock gets to 300, right, it was that 50 something stock gets to 300. I'm a billionaire. He goes, shut the fuck up. There's just no possible way.

And then the internet stock market just goes bananas. It goes berserk. And I remember sitting in my house in second bedroom where I had a PC set up and it was getting close, right? Because it was going nuts. Hitting the F5, the refresh key, right on old, and there what I'm sitting like, basically naked on this chair, hitting this thing until it hit it, bounced around to my little billionaire dance song.

That's insane. It's insane. And it takes them. Is that when you're super rich? When you're a billionaire? Yeah. That's lower than that, trust me. But still, it's just, I never would have imagined a billion years, man.

If you would have told me growing up in Pittsburgh or when I was at IU, oh yeah, you're going to be a billionaire. I would have been like, smoke some more crack from. Right, no chance. But it does take a lot. I don't care what anybody says. Member Lucky Sperm Club. You came along at the right time.

Michael Jordan came along at the right time, right? Cable Television was just starting to take off satellite TV. That built his brand. He was the guy we watched. But if Cable Television had been 10 years later, he could have been David Thompson. Well, he was better than that. But you know what I'm saying. You know, in terms of the icon and the shoes and everything, the branding and the recognition

and all that stuff, right? You guys, if you were 10 years earlier, it's a whole different, yeah, yeah. I absolutely agree. Not just Barstool as a whole, but also this podcast, if we started it today, we would not get to like number one. We wouldn't because it's a lot more flooded, it's a lot more competition, we were right place, right time. So I agree with that.

Luck matters. Luck is a huge thing. Also, I feel like you can control luck a little bit if you if you maintain the same habits, you know, like, eventually, if you keep working at something, if you have some good ideas, you're going to get unlucky on a ton of them. But luck is eventually. Yeah, look, doesn't matter how many times you fuck up, you only got to be right once. Yeah.

Right. Then everybody tells you how lucky you are. Right. You know, it's just it's just part of it. I mean, I always tell people life is half random. It's so random. Just broke my brain. I'm trying to do the statistics on half random, half random, right?

There's just the shit you can control and you have no chance of randomly, we were staying at a hotel right near where you were right where I am walking down the street. Right. That's random. That is random. Okay. I like that. How many random emails do you respond to?

Because I feel like you respond to everything. No, not everything anymore. Really now. Yes. I used to be able to. I can't anymore. Um, I don't know. It just depends.

I read the first paragraph and if I'm not into it, delete, I remember when we were doing the video, I think it was 2014, I was somehow included on an email that Mark was included on and I was like, fuck this, I'm just going to email Mark Cuban and you responded. I was like, what the hell? Probably respond like in a second, right? Right. Because I probably still have that email. I take it from a, you know, a big email where it's like coordinating with what time

we were doing it. And I was like, I'm going to shoot my shot here. Why not? Um, all right. So I just thought of a quote that you had that always struck me about the NFL. You said pigs get fat, hogs go to slaughter. Yeah. Go to slaughter.

Okay. Now we're sitting here. Gambling changed a lot of that. Gambling changed a lot of that. A lot of that. A lot of that. But let's flip it. The NBA ratings have, have taken a little bit of a dip.

Totally different. Right. Totally different. I mean, so people in your audience, court cutters, right? If your show is on television and nobody watching it, right? Because it's an older audience on traditional TV and that's what's happened to us. We've got a much younger audience. If you look at the average viewer's age for the NFL, it's like Fox network, right?

It's like 67 years old. I don't know exactly, right? It's in the 60s. Whereas with the NBA, it's a much younger audience that cuts the court. So if you look at our streaming numbers, they're really, really good. If you look at our social media numbers that we're starting to get paid more and more for, they're really, really, really good. And so yeah, our numbers are down primarily on TNT, which doesn't have as much courage

and as much link to younger audiences or even middle-aged audiences as ESPN does. So our ESPN games are doing okay, right? They're flat up a little bit and it was Zion being back and everything. They're going to be up even more. But yeah, on TNT, it's not as good and the NFL is all on broadcast, right? And that makes a big difference. Do you think there's anything, so I've heard a million different theories, you know, players moving around where the guys don't stay with the same team?

I mean, look at the NFL. Nobody stays other than the quarterback. Nobody stays. That's fair. The, you know, the competitive, you know, the Warriors and LeBron obviously have shared titles. That makes a difference. Yeah.

Well, because we have so many Warriors game scheduled, right? We have Warriors games and Pelicans game scheduled for Zion and they're all hurt. Right. Right. That's going to fuck you up. But are you nervous at all about the length of the season? No. You're not nervous about like you flip on an NBA game because, you know, I watch the

NBA, I watch pretty much every Bulls game, but if I flip on a random game on a Tuesday night in February, there are times when you can tell it's not always, you know, max effort and also doesn't feel, the NFL always feels like for death because it's 17 weeks. Yeah. But it isn't, it isn't, right? When you're, when teams are three and three, right? When the Bears start off two and five and you play, yeah, well, you're starting to panic. You know what's over.

Right. No, still in the hunt. Okay. Depending on what division you're in, right? Right. It's not looking good. There's a chance, but, you know, it's just not, the thing about football on TV, A, it's on broadcast.

So that's important because everybody can get it, right? Streaming, whatever. Anybody doesn't cost you anything. Two, you only have to watch 12 minutes. You can do anything else you want during an NFL game. You can write a novel, you know, you can go on a date, you know, and it doesn't matter because there's only 12 minutes of action in an NBA game. It's a little bit harder because you're watching 48 minutes of action.

There's always something going on, right? And NHL doesn't translate well to TV, but it's kind of got the same thing. It's 60 minutes of action, right? And so to stay with the whole game, it's a commitment. The NFL has no commitment to watch. You're watching your fantasy league more than your watch, you know, because you got all that downtime and all that dead time. That's the difference.

So I'll give you an example. If an NFL, an NBA game was 20 minutes, right? And we played 150 of them. You wouldn't care, right? Because those 20 minutes are going to be jacked the whole time, right? So it's not the number of games, right? It's the fact that it's a 48 minute commitment. Now, if we, so rather than shorter games, should we consider 40 minutes?

I don't know. That's something that could consider, I think the guys would be upset because the change is playing time and all that historical stuff and all that kind of stuff. And so it still works. And part two to that is when you go to a game, like if you look at the NFL and I haven't seen the latest attendance, but it hasn't been great, right? Because going to a game is a full commitment. You go to an NBA game.

It's a blast. It is. And it's two and a half hours. It's true. And it's not, and it's two and a half hours and it's not bad, right? And it's something going on all the time. So how much do you watch like the growth, the, you know, decline of every major sport? How much are you?

It's my business. Yeah. Very tuned in. I pay attention to all that stuff, right? Because it's my business. And, you know, I always try to find angles and, you know, different ways of combining information or looking at different ways. So, you know, having a conversation like this, it's not like everybody's writing that

the NFL is 12 minutes of action and the NBA is 48 minutes of action, right? They're saying they just look at the total viewers. Total viewers isn't really a reflection of anything, right? No one talks about the average age of the audience. No one talks about the minutes consumed in social media. You know, there's, you don't look on social media on Instagram and see a shitload of football. No, it's true. Right.

You know, you don't see baseball. You don't see hockey. What do you see in all your highlights? You watch more high school highlights on, you know, Dunk of Demics and ball is life and everything else. That sounds like political websites. What's that? Dunk of Demics and ball is life.

Yeah. Those are real websites? Well, ball is life. They sound like balls. I mean, I ate ball is life, right? Right. Yeah. They're Instagram and I don't know if they got websites, but on Instagram, right?

Right. It's interesting that you brought out Major League Baseball because they are very strict about what you can post on social media. Yeah, they're fucked. Like, you can't, you can't take a highlight of your screen. You can't record it and post it. They'll shut your account down because their logic is they want to monetize all those views through their own proprietary feeds.

The NBA is the exact opposite. Yeah. And so why is that strategy worked out for you guys? Like, why is Major League Baseball, do you think, so dead set about doing it their way? Major League Baseball, I mean, Rob Bowman, the new guy is a little bit better, but when they had Bud Seal, like he was, it was 1927 every year, right? He had no clue about what was going on. Besides the fact he wanted to keep me out and I think he's an idiot.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm kind of happy now. You are. Zero cubes. Yeah. Zero cubes. Hashtag free cubes.

Yeah. Free cubes, right? And the Rangers and before the parts. But in any event, like, so with the NBA, we're able to monetize that because we do licensing deal, licensing deals with Twitter and we do them with Instagram, all platforms, right? And those numbers are going up because they're making money off of that advertising and we'll make more and more and more money from that. But on more importantly, like all of our players, you know who they are.

Not just the big names like LeBron and everything, but, you know, they come in, now they're coming into the game because of the social media following as brands. Zion, you know, everybody was big name before he even got there, right? And kids have their own, you know, they'll have 200, 300, a million social media followers before they even get to college, right? And then by the time they get out of college, we know who these guys were, you know, because they're dunking or whatever. And so by the time they get to the NBA, they have a following and the difference between

the NBA and all these other leases, our players drive the league. We give them the ability to talk about themselves about anything they want. It could be political, it could be game, it could be whatever you want. And that builds a following and that connects fans. Add to that 2K, right? If you're playing 2K and you're building your teams, right? You know almost every player in the league, right? If you pick the Mavs, you know one through 15.

If you bounce around because you're friends, you know one through 15 of any team you're working with, right? Who's playing MLB, right? Who's playing NHL? Who's playing even NFL, you know, Madden or whatever. Madden's still big. It's big, but you don't know all the players, right? There's 53, you're playing, you know, whoever, you don't even know who's playing.

And so we, you know our guys, they drive our following. And so that's why when you look at the ratings, we're building basketball fans, right? Unfortunately, because they don't get traditional cable and satellite, we're not converting them, we're not keeping as many of them because they're cutting the cord, but they're not not becoming NBA fans. Whereas you looked at the NFL, if they lose people from TV, I mean they got fantasy and you got gambling. Yeah, and you got gambling, but there's, you don't know.

I mean, I was at a thing earlier today and I'm eating all these football players that I knew by name. I had no idea who they were by looking at them. Right. It sounds like you're making the bargain that it's worth it to get people invested in your product. You might not be monetizing it as efficiently as you could right now, but it's better to have those people as fans for life and you'll figure out how to gradually improve.

You always want to disrupt yourself before you let somebody else do it for you, you know, big bowl of chili. And so you got to understand what's coming your way and we know social is always going to be evolving, you know, and we're going to be right there and we're going to connect the fans however they want to connect. The NFL, again, if you look at the average age on television, it keeps on getting older. You know, now they still have a bigger audience in the 1849, right? Which is like the TV money pot than we do a much bigger audience, but it's getting closer.

I'll give you a perfect example, not to get too much in the weeds, but like Shark Tank. Shark Tank used, and for 18 to 49, we used to try to pull a 2.0 five, six years ago. Now we pull a 0.8, which is good for broadcast television. The NBA and ESPN used to be that the NBA and ESPN, you know, pulling 2 million people was good and we'd pull a 0.8, you know, maybe a 1.2 in the demo, 18 to 49. It would never be conceivable that a broadcast game on cable would match what Shark Tank would do. Right.

Never in a million years. Now we both do 0.8, 0.7, 0.8, right? So we're holding on to audiences better at the NBA, particularly younger audiences that even broadcast television is. So even though it might not, you know, when you look at total viewers, that's distorting. It's not telling the whole story. So you bring up Shark Tank. Let's talk a little Shark Tank.

Sure. And we're moving to, when's this going to air? When you putting it up? In the next couple of weeks. I know you have it coming. The new season's coming out, right? Well, no. We're moving to Friday night.

So we're on season 10, season 11 right now, and we've been on Sunday nights and starting the end of February, we will be on, we've been on Sunday nights and starting the end of February, we'll be on Friday nights on ABC and Hulu. Perfect. Perfect. All right. So we'll put this out right around then. Appreciate it.

You can check it out then. So who's your biggest rival? Nobody. Come on. For real? Come on. Who do you think it is? When Robert cries, that's a tough one, because he really pulls at everyone's heartstrings.

He's like, I was, you know, I mop the floors at my dad's factory and that whole thing. That one always gets, like, if I was standing there and he started doing that, I'd be like, yeah, I want to work with you. Kevin obviously, he, Kevin is just literally every single deal. He just wants to license it and take no risk. Yeah. And royalties and you're exactly right on that, Kevin. But I would actually say, like, Lori might be your biggest rival.

Lori can be. Lori can be for retail products. Right. Right. Because she likes to sell all the tchotchkes and all this stuff. Right. And she's better at it than me. So, and I typically, that's not my gig.

And so she, she, she is better than me at those. So I like your product. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. It's a hero. Yeah. But then she gets so syrupy.

Oh my God. Well, let me rephrase Big Cat's question. Who would say that you're their biggest rival? Ooh. All of them. Yeah. All of them. You against the world?

Me against the world. Come on, baby. How much when someone walks in, are you like, if their product sucks, but you can see it in their eyes, you're like, I'm just going to invest because I know the person. It depends on the bigger picture. Like if I send in a message, so if it's a veteran, if it's a woman entrepreneur, if it's someone from my hometown, Pittsburgh or Indiana, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

But I have to really see something in them. Like they're a great entrepreneur, but the product just needs massaged a little bit, right? Or the service needs just massaged a little bit, then I'll go for it, right? But if it's a great entrepreneur, but I just don't see the product, I don't get it, then it's not going to matter. So you've never been like, throw the product out, give me you. One time.

One time, the guy who came out with, I want to draw a cat for you. Oh yeah. I remember that guy. Yeah. That was the only time. And one other two times. The other time was Stefan, what the fuck is, Tower Paddleboards, which is now Tower E-Bike. Because they were really, both of them, this was nine years ago for one and seven years

from another. They were both really good at SEO when SEO really mattered. So it didn't matter what the product was, they knew how to sell. And so that's why I invested in both and I've made, you know, I want to draw a cat for you. I made like 50 grand and then he got out, but I've made millions off of Tower Paddleboards. Wow. That's cool.

Has there ever been anybody that walked in the door and like, just straight up judging a book by its cover being like, no, I'm out. Oh yeah. So here's the secret behind the scenes, right? So I've done so many deals. The hard part isn't saying yes to a deal. The hard part is just saying no, because I'm so tired of them, right? And so you, all of us, when they walk in, if it doesn't immediately catch our attention,

it's like, how am I going to go out? Right. So you're not even thinking about, okay, what do I think about this? All you're doing is thinking to yourself, how the hell do I go out and sound smart? Right. And so I'm listening for things to come up with reasons to go out. And then every now and then I'll go out and somebody will say something or they'll say something I didn't expect.

And then, you know, if I like it, I'll go back in. I just realized that's what you did to me for protein. Yeah. You're listening and you're like, no, I'm going to, I'm going to steer away from this because there are too many options that I'm going to list different types of liquors and overload them with information as I bow out gracefully. Right. So yeah, you executed that perfectly.

I'm going to show you because my skill, like my greatest skill is being able to look at a business and know exactly how it works and what would make it successful. And so, protein, you know exactly what it's going to be involved and I can tell you in two seconds what you're going to have to do to make it work or why, what your challenges are going to be. And that's what I'm able to do with pretty much any kind of business. What about gift shirts? I pitched that to you six years ago.

Yeah. I remember that pitch. Yeah. That's unmemorable it was. That one, no. That one, science hadn't caught up to my brain yet. I think we're finally there. I saw a gift hat.

Yeah. So just have gifts, moving gifts on the shirt. You wouldn't wear that. Gifts as the GI. Gifts. Gifts. Yeah. Yeah.

I've seen a bunch. We actually had some on Shark Tank for those. And I told you six years ago it was coming. Yeah. So now you really think like, hey, this guy may be not be so crazy. Yeah. I don't see you quitting your job to go sell them. Yeah.

Probably not. Probably not. That was a good idea. I like that. It's still a good idea. Yeah. Oh, and the Detroit one, the, what was it called? What?

Oh, no. Not the frambulance. The frambulance was basically sell gyms in an airport, plots, no, it was dentist on an airplane. Dentist on an airplane. Yeah. Like what, you hate traveling, you hate going to the dentist, dentist chair on an airplane, kill two birds with one stone.

Yeah. I don't know about the economics there. That makes sense. Right. That's my grade. You know, dentists, I mean, you just make the whole thing a medical office, right? Perfect. So you agree.

Yeah. Gynecologist, urologist. Do it all. Yeah. You get it all. Or the urologist called the cockpit. Yeah. There it is.

There it is. Boom. Now we're cooking. Damn. The other was driving. Oh yeah, we have more waters. Yeah. Oh, video.

Driving with a treadmill in the back of a truck. So while you're going to your commute, you can work out. I like the treadmill on the plane better. Okay. I do that. Yeah. All right. I think there's some money to be made there.

Also just. People tried that. Some have worked, some have it. What about Uber, but it's like a U-Haul truck and it's got bed in the back and that way people can get a U-Haul and they can go have sex instead of getting a hotel room. It's cheaper to just get a Chevy van, just like rent a van or just, you know. It's true, but maybe you want to be driven around on a bumpy road, use some of the emotions in the car.

Yeah. We're just spitballing here. We're spitballing. Get an old ass, you know, 1994 Lincoln, you know, limousine and. Yeah. Really bad struts on it. Yeah. Bad shock absorbers.

Okay. How much on a scale of 1 to 100 do you love Luca? 10,000. And how much on a scale of 1 to 100 do you love Dirk? 10,000. No, you got. Same. Same.

One's just the older brother. There's just family, right? No, no, no. They're both in their prime and one of them is going to die. Either they both die. Oh man. Or you have to save one and the other one will die. I'll put it a different way.

The advantage Luca has right now over what Dirk had is that Luca can bring the ball up. So Luca can take the ball out of, get the ball inbounded to him and just go coast to coast. Right. And take it from there. Dirk, that wasn't Dirk's game. Now Dirk's a far better shooter. So if you have a great point guard with Dirk, like, you know, then you, like when you had

Jason Kidd. Or like a Steve Nash. Or Nash, right? Right. Yeah. That's still painful. Whoops. Yeah.

Whoops. Take a look. It just depends. Right. I mean, Dirk, best seven foot shooter ever in the game, but someone had to get him the ball. Right. And when we didn't have a good point guard, we weren't very good.

Right. Right. Luca's still going to get a lot better. He's still not a great shooter. Yes. It's kind of bullshit that you like went from Dirk to Luca. Look, there are three painful motherfucking years in there. Yeah, but you were tanking.

You got fined for it. Right. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. It makes it even more painful. Yeah.

Absolutely worth it. Absolutely. Do you think there's a fix to that? No. I got fined for it. I think you just don't like being told what to do. Right. You figured that out?

Yeah. Your problem isn't like you. I've come down. You've come down. People got used to me. Oh, you think that's what it is? Yeah. They've gotten used to me now.

Like I was the only owner that would stand up and talk shit, talk about refs or at a game beat. Like now Michael Jordan sits right next to their bench, right? And like, you know, the owners, the younger owners or people who are more into it, they're all, you know, doing the same shit I was doing. Right. And even when I say shit now, they don't even find me like they would have in the past because it's like, they know it only helps the cause.

Right. That's Mark being Mark. Do you guys have like an email thread amongst the owners? No. No? No. Have you got an email from Dan Gilbert in Comic Sans? Yes.

And hey, shout out to Dan. I mean, he had the stroke. He's supposedly getting a lot better. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's my guy. Yeah.

Get well, Dan. Speaking of a guy that's not your guy, where are you at with the Bersard? Oh, who? Yeah. Okay. Craig? Yeah. Oh, Chris.

Yeah. Craig Bersard worked for me in my first company. Chris Bersard. Yeah. Yeah. Craig Bersard, you know, he worked for me at Micro Solutions, my first company. I stole little. This is the truth.

He did programming for a porn company and we wanted to upgrade our e-commerce and get our networking better. Who knows more about networking? No one better. Yeah. Coming out of for a porn company. I actually think that that's where a lot of technological innovations come from is the porn industry.

Absolutely. VR? Yeah. Yeah. I haven't tried that. You look like a man that's tried VR porn. What's your number? VR number.

My VR number? Yeah. Oh, my VR number. No, yo. Have you tried the Oculus Quest at all or any Oculus VR? No. You get all the cool stuff that we don't know. Oh, no.

Yeah. I go out and mess with everything because I need to find out what works like to try to give me an edge. Okay. So along those same lines, how fucked are we with like cyber security? Like everyone owns everything? You know, you know, there's two types of companies and people. Those who have been hacked and those who have been hacked and don't know it, right?

And so it's just going to happen to everybody because you get dudes, you know, girls, guys, whatever, that it's a challenge, right? And they just sit there for days at a time. Like when I was to write software, I remember sitting there taking on projects and I start coding and I look up and it's like 24 hours later, you know, and I didn't even realize I thought it was like two hours later. And so it's such an, you know, intellectual challenge. There's always someone trying to crack everything.

Whether you're from Iran, Ukraine, Russia, China, United States. But the good news is because we have the most cloud and processing power over here. We still got the edge. What about cyber dust? What happened to cyber? It's still rolling. You can still hit me up at Block Maverick. Oh, it is?

Yeah. No, it's called dust now. But yeah, it's called dust messaging. You can hit me up on there and I try to answer. I actually answered more of those than I do emails. Okay. Yeah. Block Maverick.

Yeah. Block Maverick. Okay. So we'll do a ton of business on there because it's like, like when you have a face, you walk outside, you have a face-to-face conversation. There's no record of it. Right? Right.

You just know whatever. And this is the equivalent. When, no matter what, the minute you, when you're done with a dust conversation, right, you can delete it right then or it automatically deletes in 24 hours. Never touch like on WhatsApp and Telegram or whatever. They save it. And if someone unencrypts it, someone else can go get it, which business is not good. Right.

Whereas it's only in memory in the servers and when it's gone, it's gone forever. The FBI, nobody can get it back. And so it's just like a digital version of a face-to-face conversation. I like that. I like that a lot. So dust messaging. You grew up playing rugby. Yeah.

What position were you? I started off the second row, got the shit kicked out of me and then I went to Wing Forward and eighth man. Okay. Cool. So I played for like 10 years. Yeah. I played a long time.

I loved the sport. Yeah. I played down in Texas for a while. Where at? Austin, on the Austin Huns. Oh yeah. Yeah. And then the Reds.

Okay. Yeah. I played against both those teams. I think there was, I want to say Ryan Motz, the old NFL running back, played on one of those teams in his first game and absolutely lit the shit out of me. Just like sent me horizontal and tackle. But it's been one of these things that we have as a running joke on the show that like rugby is the sport of the future.

No, it's actually not the joke. Well, it's one of them. No. So it's like, I love it too and I want it to grow, but it seems like it's one of the sports that like, it's almost like Colt status, you know, and it's big and you played it. Yeah. If you played it, you know what? You love it, right?

It's tougher to, to get going, but as it turns out, you know, Major League Rugby, right? Guy who worked for me for 15 years, just George Kilbaugh just became the commissioner. And so they're in good hands now that you got to get sponsors and you got to learn how to sell it. And he's a great sales person. So if it's going to happen, he's the guy to do it. I mean, I'll go to games. I'll watch them like when they're on TV, I'll watch the games.

I'm not a sevens guy though. So I'm a, I'm a 15s guy. Same. Yeah. So when you watch these guys beat the, you know, just like we played, right? And so, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'll watch it every chance I get at World Cup. Like Steven Adams comes through. I give him the shit about, you know, why the All Blacks didn't go anywhere in the Rugby

World Cup. Right. Yeah. It's, it's one of the sports that I feel like it's hitting, it's a hit of ceiling several times. I just don't know if it's ever going to get to that next stage. It's got a chance to, it really depends on who gets behind it. They're getting better owners now.

And like, yeah, the sad thing is like, I'm probably the most famous rugby player in the United States. Right. That's all sad it is. It's probably me now, actually. It's probably true. That's probably true. And I'll hand you the crown willingly.

But like I, I use, Indiana is really pissed because most of the money that I give to school with the exception of this media thing is all to the rugby team. Yeah. You know, and I was going to ask about that. Yeah. Why haven't you made Indiana basketball good again? You can. I gave to the media.

I created the Cuban media center so that they can create recruiting videos and use internal analytics tapes. And I gave him all this equipment and everything. It's a nice spin zone. Yeah. No, but it's true. But I get, you know, coach Miller, it's his deal, right? Yeah.

You know, but can you write, you could, I know how like college recruiting works. Like if you just have, or college coaching works, you could just hire Steve Kerr. Yeah. He wrote a big enough check. I mean, he still got to recruit the right guys, right? Yeah. He wrote a big enough check. But it's not even that, right?

There's lots of great coaches that are out there, but you got to recruit the right guys. And if it were that easy, I'd do it, right? But you know, $100 million to have Coach K be the Indiana coach. I don't think you'd make a big difference. I think you'd do it. Yeah. I don't think you would. Yeah.

What about get a, what about bring Tom Kreen back? I love Tom Kreen. He's a man. Yeah. I love Tom Kreen, man. Tom Kreen is the best. That was really the last time I really connected with IU on basketball. I thought he was a great coach.

Right. I had no idea why they got rid of him. He's a great person too. Yeah. I love him. Yeah. $100 million for Brad Stevens. Bring him home.

Yeah. I mean, I don't think he'd move. Yeah. I don't think he'd move. Not much money. I'm just saying, if I had your money, I'd be throwing all of it at Wisconsin to try to get. Trust me, if I'm going to spend $100 million, I'm not going to do it for it.

I mean, I don't mind giving money, but $100 million for the basketball program. The thing about how cool would be like at the Final Four. I've been to Final Four. You can buy a ticket to the Final Four. Yeah. I've never got that about like, you know, wealthy bit of factors and stuff for college football teams that will write these five, six, $7 million checks, and then they just do it so that they can root for a better team.

It's like, it's like you want to own the team. I want some of the upside of it. Well, no, no, no, like I'm a root for the team, no matter what, right? Right. I want them to win, but it's not like the Mavs, like the Mavs, you know, I live and die by every game, right? Right. IU, I want them to win.

I love watching the games, right? You know, but it's not going to make a break. It's a difference between rich and super rich because super rich guys buy the team. Rich guys can be boosters and like almost mini owners. I mean, you just can't really own a college team. But I'll tell you a story. You want to hear a story? Yes.

I'll tell you a story. So before the college playoff system was going around, I was with a group and we were putting together our own college playoff system, right? And we were going to buy in and do it. And then that kind of pushed them to create the college playoff system. I'll say that, you know, I'll take credit for it. Whether or not, but I also called up a couple of conferences and I said, what if we wrote you a $50 million per school check to take over basketball from the NCAAs?

You would leave. You wouldn't be able to be, you know, in March Madness and you wouldn't be able to be a final four or anything, but you're going to get a $50 million check right off the bat and you're going to have a better TV deal and we're going to own your conference and it's just going to be like rugby. You know, it's just going to be a separate business and they just, they were, they were terrified. Too scared.

Yeah. We did shock them into some change though. Well, I don't know, but you know, it's like, imagine the kind of the format was you create a company called the Big 10, Big 10 Inc, right? And you write the checks to all the teams, all the schools and not only do they get the check, but they own part of the company, right? Makes sense. Right.

Think about it. It's just the change is too scary. Think about it. I like that. Yeah. I'm thinking about it right now. And it makes sense. What do you think about the prospects for the XFL to succeed?

I mean, it's got a chance, right? Because it's again, watching football, it's 12 minutes, right? So it's really easy. It's just, you've got to get the right cities because there's some cities that support football. 25,000 people show up no matter what, right? San Antonio, they're going to show up no matter what Memphis, they're going to show up, right? If they can get people to show up so it looks good on TV and they get some numbers, they can last.

They just got to keep their costs lower. Like the guys behind, what was it, the AFL? AF. AF. That was the biggest part is we thought it was like an insurance company. Yeah. It felt like I need an L or an A or something. Yeah.

I mean, they tried. They had the right idea, but they wouldn't, I remember talking to them and it was like, you got to get a deal where you can sell your players to the NFL. It's like European basketball. We'll pay 750 grand to the team to get Luca out of his contract, right? You've got to set up a deal where that way you're truly a player development league and if one of your guys go to the NFL, you're making money. And you figure 10, 20, 30, and if you're making 750 grand a pop, right?

That's enough to help support a league and they just, they were like, well, we can't see how to get there and the NFL won't do this or that. Right. So, like, pay Trevor Lawrence, a superstar collegiate athlete that has one year left, pay him like $30 million for one season. They lose their ass. In the NFL. You think that would be a bad investment?

Yeah. People don't, you know, there's only a few basketball players that people pay just to go see. Most of them go for the experience of the game, right? And football is even more so like that. You know, do you really go to see Tom Brady play? Are you rooting for team, city, history, all that stuff, the jersey? It's a family tradition.

You're rooting for the jersey, right? You like going to the games, you know, you like the tradition of it. You like going with whoever you're going with. You just, it just doesn't work that way. I mean, I get to look at the Mavs numbers and I know which visiting teams draw fans for individual players and it's far fewer than you think. Yeah. You know, it's more about selling our experiences.

People, you know, if you think about the last, when was the last time you went to a Bulls game? Last year. What was the score? I don't know. Exactly. Who were you with? Who were you with?

I was with two buddies of mine. And you had a good time? Yeah, it was a great time. That's the whole key, right? You don't remember the scores. You don't remember the dunks. You went, you went y'all drinking, hanging out, having fun, checking people out. That's what games are all about.

They lost to the Knicks, which was bad because the Knicks were terrible. Yeah. But you get the point, right? Yeah, yeah. And football is like, okay, you go to root for your team and there's 12 minutes of action and maybe since there's only 12 minutes, you remember, you know, this run or that pass, right? But you don't, you're not going to see an individual player.

So paying Trevor Lawrence or anyone or any five ones isn't going to make the difference. How's the new hip? Both of them are good, man. You got double? I've got two of them, 2007 and 2014. I'm outplayed. The only thing I can't do is play rugby. I go back for my old boys' games and that's the only thing that scares the shit.

I mean, the one who's going to pop out if I hit somebody. But you actually still try to play. You play on the silverback side? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I mean, I, no, I don't play in the old boys' games anymore. I played, I played one half after I got the first one done and I'm like, no, no, I got hit one time and I'm like, just grabbing onto it. I'll play pickup. I still play pickups.

Yeah. I was a game going. My game's still good. I can still shoot. I've worked with the math shooting coach. So got even better. Oh, hell yeah. That's a nice perk.

Yeah. The problem is like you hit a point one, one year, like you're jumping and you feel good and the next year it's like you got, can't stop and you got no bounce. Right. I've heard that with those hip surgeries, you can just like walk out of the hospital later on that day. Yeah. No, I've walked.

Yeah. I mean, you got, you're taking drugs, right? But I was walking that same day. If you go back in my Instagram account, I like tag everything that I was doing and track it. And yeah, I mean, same day I was up and walking. Next day I was on crutches. The next day I was, I was good.

I remember that. That's because I remember your Instagram being like falling along. Yeah. Doing all my rehab and everything. And it feels a thousand times better. Yeah. I was like, I want a new hip. Yeah.

Why not? I was just playing. Do it. Why don't you wake up? You feel a thousand times better. Yeah. Exactly. All right.

This has been awesome. No, it's fun. I got one last question. Uh-huh. Seekik question. Put in promo code take $10 off to a Mavs game. Go to a Mavs game. $10 off.

Cool. Do it. Doesn't take out of money out of your pocket. Nope. Seekik. Do it right now. Yeah. You Seekik fan.

Are you the oldest person on TikTok? No. You are big on TikTok. I love TikTok. You're bullish. What's that? TikTok? Even though I'm stealing all of our identities?

Yeah. Who cares, man? Cool. Fine. I don't. I don't give a fuck. What are they going to do? Mark Cuban, you know, whatever.

What are they going to do? Right. Mark Cuban. Yeah. I mean, I guess, but like we're matting out our faces. Yeah. Creating like AI and. Right.

We're rich enough that you can just change your face once they figure this out. No. I'm the one doing the AI. So I got this company Synthesia, right? Where we can just over who he could take, um, train a voice to put on anybody. Right. So they got, we did a thing and, um, when the mass went to China two years ago, um, I trained it, you sit in front of the, um, the computer, the video and they train it

using AI and then they get these native Chinese speakers and it looks like I'm saying it. Right. Cause it matches all up. I got another company. Um, wait, wait. How many companies do you have? Like 150 sounds evil. Oh, no.

It's not evil. Yeah. Are you doing evil? No. It's, it's really for business. So let's just say, um, you want to take Bleacher report this, right? And so if we get you guys sitting there and training it for like 20 minutes and you want to, um, have it done in native Chinese or native Spanish or whatever.

So it looks like you guys are doing the podcast or your guest is doing the podcast in that language works. You want to do an ad? Oh, no. We got to get into the Chinese podcast market. We absolutely should and you should absolutely explode. Damn. So we just have to speak English and then you're, yeah, and it does all the rest of what you,

then you get, you know, someone else will translate it. Right. Imagine like movies where they dub it in and it sounds also, you know, really stupid, right? It'll all look real. And you don't have to do this doubly. You know, like 600 million Chinese potential podcast. So wait.

So, so for Tik Tok, right? So for Tik Tok, I got this other company, um, 2020 CV, um, computer vision, right? And so, um, he's doing this thing with dogs where he can replace your face with a picture of your puppy and it started to look, um, 3D. And so we don't have it down completely yet, but using artificial intelligence. You're sitting there talking. Have you got a dog and you replace your face with a dog's face? It's fucking hysterical.

And of course that will work because everyone like, what is the internet love? Dogs, right? Like that's genius, right? But you can't really take, it's hard to take videos of your cat and get them to stand there. Right. But, um, with a dog, you can do it in whatever kind of dog you have. And oh, it's funny as hell. What about cloning dogs?

That's what you should do. Yeah. I haven't gotten into that. You do that. Everyone would do that. But I got this other crazy company, you turn them up. It was a shark tank company. I got this for $2.

And another company. Yeah. No, I love this. So, um, they, when people die and get cremated, they can take the ashes and create a diamond. And now we're, we're taking it so you can take a hair. So like if you guys wanted to, um, for Dave, give him, you know, something special, a gift, right? Like, like diamond, right?

So just pull out a couple of hairs out of his head. Well, he's a fake hairs, but yeah. Okay. If they're fake, it ain't going to work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It might not work.

Okay. Or get him to, you know, cut and, you know, and we'll get a couple, get him a diamond of himself. Well, not of himself. No. No. Cause you can create using the carbon that's in hair, right? Or remains, right?

You can use the carbon and put it in this carbon, put it into this device and it takes like eight months, but it compresses it and creates a real diamond from the carbon in your hair. Holy shit. Yo, it's crazy as fuck. Yeah. It's crazy as fuck. You just chill it out and just like unplugged and didn't worry about stuff.

I mean, I got kids, so I'm always worried about shit, especially a 16 year old daughter. Stay away. I got, I got people looking out everywhere. Are you letter on social media? I'm not going to stop her, I can't stop her. Is it like her account's private and stuff like that? Yeah. Yeah.

Except on Tik Tok. Yeah. Because some people like, you're like, wait, why aren't you? No, there's some crazies out there. Yeah. There's some crazies out there. So yeah. We have the talk and everything.

Right. So when she turned 13, she's 16 now, I had to have the talk. There's two types of people in this world. Those who send nudes and those who don't. Once you do, you can never come back. Right. Right. And so I had, you know, dad, you've got to do it, right?

Absolutely. You've got to do it. Absolutely. It's a reality. I'm like, do whatever I ask you for a nude. You send them to me, one, because I'm going to kick his motherfucker in the ass, and two, you know. You dust them.

Yeah. You just physically dust them. Yeah. Different kinds. Dust them off the worth. Yeah. He's a nude guy. Yeah.

He's in a nude so he can never come back. They're forever out there, Hank. I had an accidental nude put up by our intern one time, but it was just a tip, so it's not like a full nude. Yeah. Have you ever thought about doing a podcast? Yeah. It just takes too much time.

Yeah. But like listening to you talk about your companies, you should just do a podcast just for high people where you're like, all right, I got this other company. It's going to take your face. Commercial. Yeah. What was that? Oh, fuck.

Share the fuck it. I forget. But another company. No. It's just, uh, Dame John and I, Shark Tank, uh, by the way, he's kind of got a crush on us. So watch out. Of course he does.

Yeah. He's come on. He wants us to be part of his whole entourage. Oh, his empire is marketing. Well, if you see us showing up to Shark Tank with Dame John, you're in trouble. Dame's, Dame's my guy, man. Whatever he does. Yes.

Okay. Now that you've given us all the secrets inside your brain, we can now more effectively help Dame. And I'm good with that. I'm good with that. I got no problem with that. Okay. No, he's, no, I'm good.

My last question. Do you watch Billions? Yeah. Yeah, I've done camos on it. Oh, that's right. You did have a camo. How much that, uh, character of Bobby Axelrod, do you think was based on you? None.

Yeah. None? None. I mean, but I gave him advice like when, um, Brian Koppelman was starting to write it and, you know, some of the battles I've had and shit I've gone through. Um, so I gave him feedback, which helped inform what he was doing, but, um, actually Axel's now my guy, right? When he was trying to buy a football team and I'd sit there and give him some advice

and help him out with different things. But Billions is a great show. Brian Koppelman's a writer. Um, they, both those guys do a great job. Yeah. Have you played basketball with him? Yeah. That's how I met him.

I went to Michael Jordan's camp. We had dinner with him a few months ago and he said that he was a very good basketball player and I was like, he could play. Yeah. He could play. All right. So you bet. So he's, yeah.

We went to Michael Jordan's camp. That's a rich guy thing. You know, he doesn't have it. Yeah. The fans again, they don't have it anymore. The hearts of owning the team, like before almost every home game, um, I'm out on the court shooting at four o'clock. I'll rebound for you.

I don't, I mean, I will literally now, you know, one of the best jobs now at the Mavs, we have guys that we hire as interns to, that have played college basketball or played semi-pro or whatever to come in and rebound for our guys and to also run plays to help them simulate stuff. Best job in all, especially the best job. All right. Well, I'll be your personal rebound or anything. There you go.

It's on. It's not that you'd have much to do because you won't, but it's okay. You know, you're not that good of a shooter. No chance. We shoot from three. What do I shoot? Yeah. I mean, I'm not playing the league percentage.

No, but I can go around to like, if I get rolling, I can hit 15, 20 in a row. Corner three. What? Yeah. Yeah. Corner three. Those don't count. Yeah.

So you see, there's videos of me on my Instagram and around the net and me shooting. So you can go check it out. Okay. Fine. You only put up the ones that you make though. Yeah. No, I'm not the one who puts them up. I don't put up my own shit up there.

They're shooting. So when I'm down, they're shooting before a game and people are just taking videos. Whoops. Yeah. Just random accounts. Yeah. Yeah. Not Mark Cuban.

Mark Cuban making it rain. Yeah. It's wet. It looks like you retweeted it by accident. Of course I retweeted it. Yeah. Of course. All right.

Remember the ones I missed. Yeah. Mark, thank you so much. My pleasure. Appreciate it. You're a recurring guest now though. So we have to come back on. Absolutely.

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Yes. I don't have a townhouse. In your old townhouse, I'm saying. I never had a townhouse. I thought you had a townhouse in Chicago? No, it was just a one bedroom, just a bottom floor. Just one floor? Well, I was on the bottom floor.

We're talking stuff? No, I was on the... Well, yeah, they were, but I was on the bottom floor of a... I guess there was a house on top of it, but I didn't have access to the whole townhouse. Were there internal steps that went up to the... Yes, but no, no, no, no, no, but not for me. Like there was a door, you walked in, and then there was another door. I couldn't open that other door.

Not external steps, though. Correct. Got you. So a townhouse I couldn't use. Got you. Okay. Yeah. So when you moved here from your townhouse that you couldn't use, you probably had to

get rid of a lot of shit because New York's small and socks and you can't fit anything anywhere. Me too. I had to do the exact same thing, and if Let Go was around, I would be walking around with a lot more money in my pocket. So check out Let Go, download Let Go, let us know what you use it for, letgo.com slash barstool that's live in Let Go, make some extra money, get some cool stuff. All right, let's get to some segments.

Bachelor talk. I feel like this one's Poppin' Hank. Is this a Poppin' season? A lot of drama this season. A lot of drama. It depends if you're in it for the love or you're in it for the drama. I can just tell by the tweets that this is a good season. The girls were very excited when Chris Harrison told them they were leaving Cleveland and

headed to Costa Rica with Pete. Why? I don't know. I wonder. Pilot Pete, right? Pilot Pete. Did they let Pete fly them down there? I don't think so.

Has Pete gotten behind the joystick? Yes, a couple times. Pete meets the girl for a group date with a band-aid across his forehead. He tells them that he fought a puma in Costa Rica, but in reality he bumped his head on a golf cart and slammed his head into a glass he was holding. Pete sounds like a... I did see this part. He walked up to the girl and was like, oh my God, what's wrong with your head?

He was explaining the puma story and he was like, oh, I was hiking alone and I came across a puma and I did what I had to do and all the girls bought it. They bought it, yeah. They were like, what? Oh my God. And he was like, just kidding. I'm a klutz. He basically threw a glass into his own head.

No, I mean that's the drunkest possible injury of all time. You tripped into a golf cart and then the glass that contained your drink cut you in your head and then he went, to his credit, he went and he told the big lie, it's easier to say like, oh, I got attacked by a murderous mountain line and I beat the shit out of it. Then it would be to say like, oh, I walked into my shower door by accident, which I would have said because now they're thinking about you naked. And then there's just a whole lot of, he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, Tammy snitched on Kelsey DePete saying that she's on the verge of a mental breakdown that accused

Kelsey of being an alcoholic and popping pills to deal with their problems. Kelsey then said she only takes Adderall and birth control. Oh. But basically every girl, that seems like a good party. It seems like every girl, they go on these one-on-ones and he's like, well, this girl said this about you and then they just roast another girl and so on and so forth. Yeah. I like the combination of Adderall and pregnancy pills though, or not pregnancy pills.

The classiest move is when you see a young, upstanding lady taking her birth control, swallowing it with like a bloody Mary. Yeah. Or doing a line of Adderall. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Doing all that stuff all in one and then being like, let's party.

And you know it's a party. You know it's a party. Pistol Pete? No. Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete. I don't like him. I've seen Pilot Pete doing a lot of media.

Is that normal for like, in the middle of the season to have Pete talking to reporters? You interviewed with the chicks in the office today? Oh, he did. Oh, well, go check out their podcast coming out soon. Listen to that, but I want it for the record that if you're on the bachelor, it seems like you're doing it for the wrong reasons if you're just being a media hoarder. I've been told some shit's going on because they're basically like... You're not here for love.

They're already down to six girls. Things seem to be going quickly. Got it. He's a decisive man. Yeah. Strange things are afoot outside. Yeah. All right.

We got a new segment. New segment alert, Hank. Hope he sees this, King. This is for Rich Paul and the Knicks. I was going to say it's James Dolan and the Knicks. Oh, James Dolan. Because James Dolan fired the president of the Knicks because he wants to get Masai Riji from the Raptors.

Okay. So it's like, basically, he's just... He's making a very public display of getting rid of the guy that he wants the new guy for, like that position that he wants the new guy for. Like, look, we've moved on. Yeah. So, James Dolan, hope he sees this, King. So, Masai is attracted by your offer of firing the guy who he wants you to replace.

So the Rich Paul part is he tweeted the muscles emoji, three of them. Well, those reports that the Knicks wanted to do, the Lakers model, having like an agent running. The winnings of basketball games. Right. Which they haven't done well recently, but now they are starting to win basketball games. But yeah, the muscles emoji. So he's maybe saying, I'll take the job and I'll bring LeBron.

Rich Paul is president of the Knicks. Ronnie Jr. I love that. Because like, there's no chance in hell that LeBron James ever plays for the Knicks. No. Absolutely. No. No chance in hell.

If Rich Paul is the president? No. This is LeBron James being like, hey, use my name to get paid. I don't mind. Take it till my son is eligible and take him first. I don't know about that. If Ronnie Jr. is on the Knicks, do you think there's still 0% chance? No hell?

No chance in hell? LeBron James doesn't want to put that spotlight on LeBron James Jr. Right. He's the one. The King. The Prince. He tweeted a video of his life. So you were taking this like literally hope he sees this King James.

Right. Right. Yeah. No. Rich Paul, I think, I mean, why not just become the president of the Kings? He tweeted a video of Bryce Maximus, his seventh grade son's AU team, and they have kids dunking all over the place. Right.

It's disgusting. Also, Rich Paul. That should be technical. Rich Paul being the president of the Knicks. Forget LeBron. You know who's the free agent after this year. And? This league, all roads lead back.

They should go with the Lakers model and instead of Polinka, just get Rob Lowe to dress up like Polinka and just hang out with the NBA hat. Yeah. I'm the president now. All right. Guys on chicks wrapping up Wednesday's show. My boyfriend will not stop asking me if we can 69 with him on top. I am terrified of this.

I am terrified of his butt in my face, but equally worried about his obsession with this and why he wants to quote unquote reverse 69 me. Did I do it? What are your thoughts on reverse 69? Sounds like you kind of have to eventually because otherwise you're just going to be annoying. Break up with them. Break up with them.

Yeah. Give it a shot. It honestly seems like not a great, not a great play for either party. How much does he weigh? That's the question. If it's over 170, I think just don't do it. Or do it and then immediately say I can't breathe. There should be.

Yeah. You should have a scale next to your bed anyways for these types of purposes when there's a gentleman caller. Yeah. Over that, it's like it's the measuring stick for you are too tall to ride this ride. Hey, PMT boys, especially slim cat. My husband of six years, a huge AWL is obsessed with the idea of peeing through my legs as I myself.

That's funny. I started out thinking it was a joke, but as he keeps bringing it up, I am beginning to think he's actually serious. Is this just normal guy stuff or is my husband a complete weirdo? No, it's a test of your accuracy. It's actually exhilarating. I've done the same before. Like spelling something in the snow.

He's also an environmentalist. He's saving water and saving time and time is money. Efficiency. So really, he's making more money. He's getting a raise if you allow him to do this. That benefits your entire family. I don't know if you ever played the old Madden games, the mini camp games, but the one where you have to pass through the rings, that's what he's doing right now.

He's working on some of the accuracy issues. There's no downside to this. Only upside. More money, better for the environment, accuracy, bonding time. Think about it. You don't get to spend time with your significant other when they're in the bathroom. Now you do. That's, you are stealing back time.

Very, very worst case scenario. He sprinkles a little bit on you. You got the toilet paper right there. It's actually the perfect place to get pissed on. Yeah. All right. Speaking of that, good segue. Hi, everyone, especially Slimclat, especially Slimcat.

My boyfriend has a problem with always wanting to shower with me. Every night he says, see you in the shower when I go in. Sometimes I just want to alone time. What should I do about him always wanting to come in? Showers are a sacred place. Yeah. You have a shower fucking in the shower. That's like now you're in porn.

You have it every night. Porn every night. Not bad. You could be a porn star, I think, and just poop one time in the shower. Yeah. That's pretty much what you're saying. Rockwood special, and then he'll never want to shower with you again. Or just wait till turn on the shower and then start, I don't know, shaving your legs or

doing something, some female thing that we don't understand. And then the minute he comes in, you'd be like, I'm not in the shower yet. He'll think twice. That'll put a little hezzy in his knees. Or you could just say that you showered at a different temperature than him. So just do one cold shower and say, this is how I always shower. Say you watched a video from Business Insider that they tweeted out that a life hack about cold showers will make you a billionaire.

I watched the Goop and Gwyneth Paltrow says, if I take a cold shower, then the natural yeast in my vagina will clean itself. Right. And I'll never have to go to a gynecologist again. And then he'll be like, I understand. I think we've given you more than enough to work with here. All right. Last one.

Stuff Boys, especially 2020 Slim Cat. A lot of Slim Cat today. Wow. Les Friends had a messy break up with their boyfriend. They shared an apartment so she asked if she could crash with me for a bit. I said yes, but now it's been three months. What should I do? Wait, what?

Three months? You got to have a threesome. Holy shit. No, it's just her. Her boyfriend, her friend broke up with her boyfriend and said, hey, can I come live with you for a while? Put the person who owns the home or townhouse, excuse me, Rickette. Do they have a significant other?

No. It's just a chick. It's your friend. You and Big Cat broke up and you came and lived with me and said you're going to live with me for a bit and then you stay for three months. Three months? We'd be getting after it. Three months is insane.

Send like a passive aggressive text like most girls do. Or just start charging her rent. Just send her a passive aggressive cash app request for the rent and see what happens. And do the whole rent. She's got to pay all of it. And then maybe you get free rent. Yeah, it's not bad. I mean, just sending an invoice, chances are 20% that they'll pay it.

Three months is a long time, especially if this was not agreed upon beforehand. Here's what you got to do. Watch like any Judd Apatow romcom where I feel like this happens where they break up and then the person gets back on their feet and starts crushing life. And maybe just be like, hey, look, Christine Wigg, she figured it out in Bridesmaids. I think what you really have to do is just encourage her to move in with whatever the next guy that she hangs out with is. Just talk up that next dude.

He's awesome. That guy. He is so cool. He's tall. He's five foot eight. He's perfect for you. Apartment that's not mine. Right.

Just like whatever it is, gas up the next guy she talks to, to an obscene amount. And then boom, she's moving out. Oh, man. All right. That's our show. We'll see everyone on Friday. Now, this is going to be, Friday is going to be tough because it's going to be the first Friday without NFL preview.

We'll do XFL team over on this. It's going to hurt. It's going to hurt. Everyone get ready. We'll make sure that we have a great guest, but it's going to hurt. Love you guys. Yeah. Yeah.

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