Pardon My Take - Matt Damon And Casey Affleck, Mt Rushmore Of Dumb Things We Used To Think + Football Is Back

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

Football is back and it’s time to learn the new kickoff rules. We talk Olympics and Embiid playing zero minutes in Game 2 for Team USA(00:00:00-00:25:36). Mt Rushmore of dumb things we used to think(00:25:36-00:51:50). Matt Damon and Casey Affleck join the show to talk about their new movie The Instigators, making it in the movie business, their Mt Rushmore of Boston athletes, and tons more(00:51:50-01:30:41). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week(01:30:41-01:42:04)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have an awesome interview with Matt Damon and Casey Affleck. Their new movie is coming out next week on Apple TV, The Instigators. It is awesome and great interview talking to both those guys. We also do, I would say my favorite Mount Rushmore that we've done all season, it is the Mount Rushmore of dumb things you used to think. So we have some really dumb things we used to think and it was very open-ended and very fun. We're going to talk a little football being back, Olympics, and of course we got

Fire Fest of the Week. It's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings, Pugilism, Prize Fighting, The Sweet Science, whatever you call it. You don't want to miss the huge night of fights coming up, headlined by Crawford versus Madrimov. Get in on all the action now with DraftKings Sportsbook. It's super easy for first time users to get started. Try betting on something simple like picking a fighter to win. Go to the DraftKings Sportsbook app, select your fighter and place your first bet. It's that simple and speaking of huge, if you're new to DraftKings, listen up. New customers bet $5 to get 150 in bonus bets instantly.

They also have all the Olympics. If you're looking to bet on the Olympics, they got every Olympic sport in the DraftKings app. So download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Now use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to get 150 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks. Only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Or in West Virginia, visit 1-800-GAMBLER.NET. In New York, call 877-8HOPE-N-Y or text HOPE-N-Y 467-369. In Connecticut help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. Please play responsibly. On behalf of Boothill Casino and Resort in Kansas,

21 and over, age varies by jurisdiction. Bonus, bets expire 168 hours after issuance. Deposit and eligibility restrictions apply. See terms and responsible gaming resources at dkng.co.mma. It's a part of my take presented by DraftKings. Download the DraftKings Sportswear app. Now use code TAKE. That's code TAKE for new customers to get 150 in bonus bets instantly when you bet just $5 only on draft Kings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, August 2nd and football is all the way back. PFT Hall of Fame game. We're back, baby. It's so great. It's so great to see football on TV. So great to see the score bug. So great to hear the music. So great to bet the over, which I'm probably going to lose, but I'm going to take it anyways

because it's unpatriotic to take the under on the Hall of Fame game. I'm excited. I'm super excited. We made it guys. Yeah. It's the minute the calendar turns to August is just like, okay, this is, this is now a football month that we are now in football months. Like we've made it. Uh, I do. I don't want to wish away the summer, but the summer bye bye Hank back to work. It's football season where the game is about to kick off. So I will, Oh, there's a face. So I will wait. Uh, we got a couple more weeks. We, we don't have a couple more weeks. We had a great week. We have grit week and then football, uh, PFT, I will let you know the

moment that I think the bears are all the way back. So while we're recording. I know that they're back. In fact, I'm surprised that we haven't talked about this yet, but they're back because they have an athlete at the Olympics. True. They do. Watching Simone Biles.

I don't see any Packers players in attendance watching Simone Biles. No, Jonathan Owens just hanging out watching watching Simone Biles. No, Jonathan Owens just hanging out watching watching Simone Biles. Yeah, for life. You're right. Oh, Caleb Williams actually wearing a full jersey. I like that. Just seeing that. But yeah, Tyson Bajan is going to play Hall like 18. Well, he had to do 18. Skeen and Allen. What are you going to wait? That wasn't it's Kyle Orton. That was his number in college, right? No, that was not his number because Keenan Allen. He's he did the right thing. There was a report today that Caleb Williams told people to clean up his lockers in Imani Tumor, who

cares? Was like, that's not his job. I thought it was being a leader. We're already in tear down the Caleb Williams territory. That's fine. I'm going to enjoy the Hall of Fame game. I'm going to enjoy Tyson Bajan. There's some, you know, all time bears going into the Hall of Fame this weekend. It's going to be great. So it's, it's, it's the Hall of Fame game means absolutely nothing. They've completely bastardized it where you don't even get the first stringers playing for a second, but I'm not going to let anyone yuck my yum today. The Hall of Fame game, it is technically football. That should be the slogan of it. And we've made it. Listen, we, we did a great job pretending to get excited about the Olympics this summer.

We got into the Copa Euros, which was an incredible just waste of time for us to fast forward through the months of June and July. But the whole reason that those sports exist is so that we can get back to the Hall of Fame game. And we're there now. I'm so thankful. I'm curious to see, I'm not in front of a TV right now. I'm in Columbus Ohio. Shout out shout out Scully's Scully's music diner. Pup Punks playing tonight Friday should be a great time. But I don't have a TV in front of me or any of the players choosing to wear the Guardian caps the giant things on their home. Roger Adele said we don't know yet. We don't know yet because they're about

to take the field. But yeah they're allowed to wear the guardian cap during the regular season too. I likened it to John Olerud. It's going to be a John Olerud situation where he wore the batting helmet playing first base. It looks like right now, I feel like no one's going to wear the guardian cap, right? That's just not going to happen. I don't think so. I think Roger Godel was like, tell you what, in the, in the effort of player safety, I will allow you to wear a giant helmet that makes you look like a clown. Yeah. And no one's going to do it. And then Roger Godel could be like, Oh, I gave them the option of wearing the big red clown nose on their face. Uh, but they chose not to do it. I guess they don't care about their safety. Let's do 19 games. Yeah. The

only time I could see someone wearing a guardian cap is like getting concussed in the game, somehow passing the test and the doctors being like, you don't just put this thing on, you'll be fine. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. Did you know that Hank guardian cap? They can wear it. They can wear it now. Um, all right. Other NFL news before we talk about the Olympics, we did a bad job on Monday. We had the takeys on Wednesday, incredible takeys shout out to all the winners. Uh, it was a lot of fun to tape to do a little year in review. We forgot to mention that Jordan Love got paid and he made a lot of money and Tua got paid. He made a lot of money.

And now it feels like we're good with quarterbacks for a little bit. Yeah, that whole class, they got paid. That's that's the class you want to be in if you're a quarterback in the NFL. Next up is the Brock Purdy discourse and we're still on deck. We're still on deck watch. Yeah, we don't know what's going to happen with that. But yeah, to have got paid McDaniels is he apparently went to bat for him saying, hey, we need to pay our quarterback. Great job, Mike McDaniel. And yeah, I don't it's very weird. I know that you have to pay Jordan love, but he's got like eight games under his belt that he played well in. And now he is one of the highest paid players in the league. So I guess we'll

see how it shakes out. No, it was look for you. He deserves every dollar that he got. Some may say, you know, paying a 32 year old that much money, uh, who's only played eight games kind of crazy, but I'm not going to judge. They, they got their guy, uh, and he's got at least four or five more years left before he's in his late thirties. What were you just talking about? Hank? What are you just Mr. McMichael looks like a vibe. Yeah. Mr. McMichael. So yeah, Steven McMichael, obviously he's got ALS, uh, so he's not there in person, but he's in the hall of fame, deserves it. Mongo. Um, but yeah, the, uh, they're, they're bringing out the hall of famers right now. Mongo. But yeah, they're bringing

out the Hall of Famers right now, PFT. So that's what we're watching on our TV. Patrick Willis is getting introduced. Everyone's clapping it up. Cale Williams is in practice. He was in a jersey and pads for practice reps, I believe, because now he's in a t-shirt. Kind of like that too. Okay. reps, I believe, because now he's in a t-shirt. Kind of like that. Mr. McMichael, she's got the orange dress on. She looks good. In Hall of Fame news, I'm a little bit upset at the Hall of Fame and their sculptor, the guy that does the bust, because they didn't make Peyton Manning's forehead nearly big

enough. I feel like Peyton told them, hey, lower the hairline a little bit. Take it easy on my forehead. It's not realistic. So I've got a, I've got a little bit of a problem with that. Yes, I'd agree. Um, all right. Only other football news is there's, we're starting with injuries which suck in training camp injuries have started to happen. Justin Herbert is out till at least week one. Uh, and Deandre Hopkins is out for four to six weeks. So I fucking hate sharing training camp injuries. They make me so mad. There's nothing worse than getting that Schefter alert when you're sitting, minding your own business in the middle of August and you're like, God damn it, we didn't even get to the season. And DeAndre Forman got airlifted on a helicopter to Roanoke for a head injury, but I think he's okay. That, that happened during a kickoff drills. They were doing a kickoff drill at practice and I guess he took a shot to the

head. But I want to know if you gave Jim Harbaugh truth serum, what he thinks about his quarterback being out for weeks with a foot injury. Um, oh, that's a good question. I think, I feel like Jim Harbaugh has put, well, no, he's, he's a football guy through and through through I would say maybe the good news is that you'll see less Highlights of Quentin Johnson dropping balls because that was all of Twitter for an entire day. Yeah Yeah, I he'll be okay. Justin. Herb will be fine. They're rebuilding something in I was about to say San Diego LA Jim Harbaugh. He's gonna win. That's all he does. He wins everywhere He goes he's gonna he'sugh, he's going to win. That's all he does. He wins everywhere he goes. He's going

he's going to figure out a way to win. But I can imagine him seeing his quarterback with a foot injury and being like your foot's a long way from your heart, son. Just cut it off. He probably have him do the J.J. McCarthy stuff. Just like take your shoes off and ground yourself every morning. It sounds like you're depressed. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So other things. Olympics. We have the Olympics going on team USA Steve current in all-time Whoops, I I feel bad and Jason Tatum is probably gonna quit the team started Jason Tatum

Against South Sudan do you use game for Jason? Yeah, do you think that was an overcompensation a little bit Hank? No, it's probably just the matchups. Oh, the matchups. Yeah. Yeah. The matchups. We also had Steve Kerr. Shout out Steve Kerr because I am now convinced he's just doing it for us. Jason Tatum played zero minutes in the first game. Joel Embiid played zero minutes in the second game. Thank you, Steve Kerr. You're just giving us stuff to talk about in the middle of August. Uh, we do have Max who the reports were that he got arrested in Paris. He did not get arrested in Paris. There was a Photoshop going around that he got arrested for eating too many crepes.

Just detained? Yeah, he was detained for eating too many crepes. They never seen a man- The crepes of wrath? Yeah, they've never seen a man eat so many crepes, so they had to lock him up. Did not get arrested, but he did give us a video. He's, he will be back with us in flesh for the start of grit week, which starts on Sunday. Uh, Oh, Joe, big, big, big head picture. I'm going to get it right now.

Well, the first big head Joe Buck picture of the season. I have not seen this video for max yet, but I'm interested to see what he says because Hank's spin zone and max's spin zone for the first game were entirely different on what they have to be right now. You guys just flip-flop places so Hank you were saying that at least Jason Tatum got minutes whereas loser and Bede couldn't even get in at all and then Max said yeah well I'd rather he'd be rested than get in and look bad so how are you guys gonna flip-flop your excuses? Let's see what Max has to say. Okay yeah let's see what Max has to say.

All right let's talk Team USA, let's talk Joellen Bede. I'm sure all the people that are listening to this right now have just heard Big Cat and PFT and Hank just spew a bunch of bullshit, a bunch of propaganda, anti Joelle Embiid propaganda that wants the listener to think that Joelle Embiid didn't play today or yesterday or whatever day this would be because he's not a good player. That's not the case. It's Team USA. They got the best players in the world. They have the ability to give guys rest as far as matchups goes South Sudan.

Not the best matchup for Joel Embiid. They're a small team. They would like to go run and gun Joel Embiid is a bigger player. He's not as fast as some of the other guys. So they're giving him an off day. He's going to be in the starting lineup against Puerto Rico. He's still the top three player on this team.

Steve Curry said that himself. Sometimes there's matchup things and guys who don't know ball are going to try and criticize you LNB for being a different matchup for this South Sudan team. But that's all part. That's all part of the game plan. Some people don't know game plan. And I know that the hosts of this show are going to be slandering a man for no reason just because they don't know ball sometimes about game plan. He's going to drop 30 against Puerto Rico. Oh Memes so so back us up memes. We've for the last two episodes We've had max send you videos without us seeing it

So we would see it for the first time at the same time as a WL's. Is that fact? That's a fact Okay so Me thinks the lady doth protest too much because max just went in an entire rant about us Slandering Joel and beat and we didn't say one bad thing. No, we didn't even address. We basically just said oh, yeah He didn't play any minutes And then he just went into this whole thing about they are gonna say he's a bad player and that he's slow and he's fat And it's a it's all matchup. We didn't say anything PFT

I didn't even think about Joel and being fat But max makes a pretty good point that we should probably talk about that How does shape I actually agree with him for once like the matchup thing is a valid point My only takeaway from that was just Joel Embiid is slow Yeah, Joel Embiid is slow and speed is actually important in when you're playing sports Yeah, and listen South Sudan players are faster than NBA players. Yes was there I think Steve Kirch is being a good coach. He knows that Joel Embiid can't match up against South Sudan well. Yeah. So they're a dynamic group of playmakers over there. So you

know maybe we'll get him back in against Puerto Rico. I don't know how those matchups look though. Yeah we'll have to we'll have to dive into the matchups. Hopefully they have a big fat guy that Joel Embiid can play against. I'm gonna wait for AI Al Michaels tell me what to think. I've been watching his recaps in the morning. It is very creepy. It's so weird. It's so weird. We also had the the women's are Olympic or sorry, our gymnastics team dominated again, Simone Biles is the goat. She's incredible. I think KD even said that she thinks he thinks that Simone Biles is the goat. She's incredible. I think KD even said that she thinks He thinks that Simone Biles could take an alley-oop like she yeah on a 10-foot rim But yeah, she like we just dominate that and I think we're back. We're back in a good spot in the medal count Yeah, we're good. We're dominating the silvers. We are the absolute kings of silver right now

Yeah, so I don't know if we're dominating the golds But yeah the gymnastics team. Awesome. The men's gymnastics. They got a bronze and they were really happy about that. So I'm happy for the guy that looks like Robbie Fox. Yeah, good for him. Got engaged in one of bronze. Yeah, no, China still is leading us in gold. We got to get that. Also, we haven't gotten to the track and field yet. I feel like every day I wake up China is dominating like air

pistols and what else they've been dominating. I don't even know. I think it's disgusting that the United States can't win at shooting. Yeah, that's our sport. It should be. It should be something we excel at. Did you also see? Whoa, first new kickoff, first new kickoff going right now. PFT it's crazy. What have they done to our game? Sam Schwartz seen is ruined football For all of us. I actually think this will be a good rule once we once we once we get used to it

There's probably gonna be more Kickoffs returned and it's gonna be more exciting. So I'm excited for yeah when the XFL did it They used to have the flags that the refs would raise right and I don't like introducing like a new prop for the refs to be using. But they got rid of those. So I think the kickoff is going to be good just so that we can watch dumb coaches screwed up. And the Bears just covered the kickoff perfectly. So one and oh on kickoffs for the Bears.

We looked awesome. Got them down at the 26, which I think if you kick it out of the landing zone, where does it go? Goes somewhere. 35? We should probably rush up on the 30. Yeah. six, which I think if you kick it out of the landing zone, where does it go? Goes somewhere. 35. We should probably rush up on the 30. Yeah, I think it's the 30. I think they changed it to 30. But yeah, when we do our, whose team is this guy on now update? We should also do a rules update. Let's just remind everyone it's still preseason for us. So I

use the preseason to get myself warmed up for the season. I'm not going to, I'm not going to let myself be belittled by any new rules or any new people. I'm the preseason to get myself warmed up for the season. I'm not going to, I'm not going to let myself be belittled by any new rules or any new people. I'm, the preseason is, is there for a reason. We all need our reps. We're getting some right now. Feels good. Um, all right. So the only, uh, so Katie Ledecky won a bunch. Uh, our gymnastics team won everything. And then did you guys see the craziest? There was, I think it was the ping pong final. It was a older brother versus younger brother, which was nuts. That's wild. Yeah. How? What do you mean? They were on the same. They were in the same

country. Like there's multiple participants. All right. I got to find a fact check this talk, talk amongst yourself. Why fact check this? So you're saying that there's a bracket basically and you've got multiple A's Olympics or is this like uh yes what was it 30 for 30 okay two basketball players this is the two eskabars no no no uh eastern european alexis and felix lebrun france's uh olympic brothers so played, it might not have been for the gold medal match, but they played and I saw the younger brother lost, brutal. He was crying as the older brother was celebrating. That's one where you got a root for the younger brother, right? Because it's like the horror, the horror ball, Superbowl. Yeah. The older brother stood

up on the table and like cheered and was going nuts and the younger brother was just crying into his shirt. But I thought that was pretty cool. The brothers are playing like if they should have played in their mom's basement. That's the only that was my only critique. If the younger brother wins then that is that's devastating for the older brother. At least this way it's the older brother keeps up because I'm sure that when they were kids the older brother would win every single time they played. Right. Although is ping pong one of those sports that like age matters? Probably not. Right. I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there's a lot of running table tennis. That's what we got to call it. Table tennis. I'm not calling it table tennis. Okay. Any other Olympic story? Scottie Scheffler had a weird quote where he was just like, we're all, no one's going to remember us anyway. When they were asking about his Olympic legacy, he said that he said, no one's going to remember us anyway. It's got a true when it comes to golf in the Olympics. Yeah. Yeah. Do we do name one golf Olympic moment ever? Xander

wearing white sneakers. There's a moment Yeah electric who could forget yeah, yeah, do we want to talk about boxers and what gender they were assigned at birth? I don't really care To but we can if you want to I just want to make you uncomfortable This is why this is why you want to talk about it go on. I just knew that I just knew that you didn't I what do you why the original do you you why the original? I'm trying to the original. I got take, I'm trying to feel like I shouldn't say publicly because I don't know enough. Anything. Yeah. No, I'm just saying this is why the original Olympics had them, everyone competing completely nude back in ancient Greece. That's,

that's when sports were sports. But what's your take? My take is that I don't know shit about what's going on right now. So I'm just gonna sit back and not pretend to care about women's boxing at the Olympics. Yeah, I agree. I asked for someone to explain to me like a five year old and I had like 400 replies in the first two minutes and every single reply was different facts. I was like, well, this isn't gonna work. I'm out. I'm out on this for my discourse. For my limited reading, it comes down to a big beef between I was like, well, this isn't going to work. I'm out. I'm out on this for my discourse

For my limited reading it comes down to a big beef between the IOC and then the IBF, which is a boxing Governing body that has actual beef with the people on the IOC it's like a personal dispute as to who ruled her to be Having like too many either it was chromosomes or testosterone to compete. That was the IBF that said that, but they won't say what the test was. Now the IOC says they're full of shit. It's just where we stumbled onto a turf war between two sports governing bodies. Yeah, I like to keep sports fun. And when I saw this pop up, I was like, well, this doesn't seem fun at all and I'm out I'm gonna

watch the Olympics to watch sports that I never watch and kind of care about the US winning and if they don't win I will say the Olympics are dumb that's how I consume the Olympics nothing I want to hear Hank's take oh go ahead Hank do do you actually want to hear my take that I'd? Sure. No, I know. I agree with the sports fund. This is obviously a sensitive subject for a lot of people. From my limited reading, she was born a female and identifies a female just because she has

some extra testosterone doesn't mean she shouldn't be fighting other females. And she's like nine and six or whatever professional yeah yeah there was actually there like there's that when the stories happen in sports like I think it's like swimming or track and field with people that were born male and transition which I don't think they're way different and that's when this story came across it read like that whereas like someone that was a man transitioned and now fighting in women's boxing but it's like that's not really the case. Yeah. Right. Which I think we can all agree that if there's a man that is competing punching women in the face, that's bad.

That's very bad. But it's but it's and also Algeria doesn't seem like the most friendly country towards gender reassignment surgery. So it's probably a case where she was born as a female always identified identified as a female. And then there was a ruling by the IBF that she had something extra that we don't know what it was. The best thing that came out of this though was this Twitter exchange I'll read to you guys. This woman, Amy Broadhurst, wrote, have a lot of people texting me over Iman Kylif. Personally, I don't think she has done anything to cheat

I think it's the way she was born and that's out of her control the fact that she has been beating Beaten by nine females before says it all then someone named Ben Hyde replied What would your reaction have been if you were supposed to fight keel if Amy? I have great respect for your boxing legacy, but you've missed the mark here agreed The way you're born is out of your control But it's a clear advantage and shouldn't be allowed and then someone replied Amy Brodhurst did fight in Mount Keeleaf in the 2022 World Championship final she won so like the people just Spouting off left and right about shit

They don't know about this guy tried to correct someone who actually fought this woman and then was like, what are we doing here? So yeah, the whole thing is, uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's been quite, quite the day on online watching the discourse fly back and forth. Is it disgrace the ancient Greeks who embraced very strict traditional gender and sexuality rules? Correct. As we all know. Correct. Um, I had one last Scottie Shepard thing for you guys. He was asked in an interview at the Olympics. Do you ever go and just look at all your trophies? Would it give you a big head?

And he wrote he responded, yeah, probably would. I don't think I've ever done that. I think one time this year I took like a trophy. I took my green jacket in the plaid jacket. And I think I held like the I've ever done that. I think one time this year I took like a trophy. I took my green jacket in the plaid jacket and I think I held like the players trophy in one hand and I had another trophy the other hand and walked in the living room and said sup mayor to his wife. That's that's the extent of Scotty Scheffler getting a big head. Just wearing his like all the things he's won and just saying what's up to his wife in the probably

trying to fuck. Yeah. And probably trying to fuck which like yeah good for you, dude You you put on the green jacket and be like, what's up? You feeling it the green wear the green jacket and only the green jacket. Yeah. Yeah Okay, anything else Mike trouts out for the year. Good job PFT. I'm a rafting. I'm aware dingers only Well, that means that means I get a sub for Mike trout. Yes, because the the IR slash pedophilia list. Yeah, so I will be making my choice. I believe tomorrow about that Okay, so you have the strategy of drafting half your team already injured is You're not in last did

Unintentionally because Mike trout had just gotten hurt when I drafted him. Yeah, he's been hurt for a while Yeah, yeah, Mike try to forgot about I be honest. But there was another guy that was hurt that I drafted that had just got hurt. Yeah. I think John Carlo. Yeah. All right. The Bears just gave up an opening drive that's not good. They're they suck. Season's over. Anything else for Olympics? Huey, did you have any Olympic stories? No. Basketball is pretty quiet. Our three on three team sucks God they're the worst they're Owen three should get chase buddinger in there. Yeah, who's really good volleyball player Really good volleyball player. We got Jim or plane Jim or was hurt today. We lost the Lithuania. We're Owen three

We would have beaten with Jim or yeah, but we also maybe not because we lost the first two games with Jimmer. So we just... Jimmer matches up well against Lithuania. Yeah, we just suck. Okay, let's get to our Mount Rushmore. Very fun Mount Rushmore. I actually dubbed it in the ad coming up, my favorite Mount Rushmore we've done this season because it was very open-ended. So let's kick it to the Mount Rushmore. Before we get to our Mount Rushmore, pardon my take, is brought to you by our friends at Game Time, the exclusive ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. As you know, you can get tickets to Cubs Cardinals this weekend for $40. That's right, with Game Time, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. You shouldn't have to worry when you buy tickets to your next big event.

Game Time is a fast and easy way to buy tickets to all sports, music, comedy, and theater events near you. They have flash deals for sudden discounts, zone deals for when you're feeling flexible, and their lowest price guarantee means that if you can find the same seats for less anywhere else, Game Time will credit you 110% of the difference. Game Time is the best place for last minute seats with up to 60% off your favorite events. What are you waiting for? I'm going to buy those Cubs Cardinals

tickets for 40 bucks right now. Take the guesswork out of buying tickets with Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase, terms apply. Download the Game Time app today. Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed with the Game Time app. We're also brought to you by ourselves. Pardon My Cheese Steak. Listen, football's about to be back. It is football season. It is Pardon My Cheese Steak season. Preseason is here. Ordering Pardon My Cheese Steak for your game day meal. Our Late Night Eats is the best place. Play Call you can make. Pardon My Cheese Steak brings you awesome cheese steaks and loaded fries delivered right to your doorstep. Take

your pick of our delicious cheese steaks made with fresh thinly sliced steak, melted provolone, mouth-watering cheese sauce and caramelized onions on a toasted hoagie roll. We have classic cheese steaks, chipotle cheese steaks, chicken cheese steak, chipotle chicken cheese steaks, buffalo chicken cheese steaks and chicken bacon ranch cheese steaks. You can order the Big Cap combo and get your cheese steaks of choice, fries cheese steaks. You can order the Big Cap combo and get your cheese steaks of choice, fries and a drink. For dessert, try our new donut tippers. Delicious donut holes tossed in cinnamon sugar served with a rich caramel sauce. Find a Pardon My Cheese Steak near you and order yours now at PardonMyCheeseSteak.com. Use code PMC20

for 20% off your order with Pardon My Cheese Steesteak. Okay here's our Mount Rushmore. Okay last Mount Rushmore before we head out for grit week. Max you were up first. Yep. And we're doing a very open-ended one, should be a fun one. Dumb things we used to think. So let's not put it on. It doesn't have to be as a kid. It can just be because Hank probably has one from last week. He didn't know humans were animals. Dumb things you used to think. Meatballs. Meatballs. Meatballs are the only food. Okay. I was thinking of this more as a kid.

I have mostly as a kid, but I'm just saying, if you have something that's like, oh, I thought this when I was 20, I don't think we should take it away. I have almost all kid stuff. Yeah, no. Oh, Hank just said, see? Hank's face. And something just popped into his head. I went like, seriously, two weeks ago.

I want to hear the stuff that Hank just recently said that wasn't true. Hank. You can do your own. All right, Hank, put a star next to that one and when you say it let us know that it was the one that literally just Popped in your head okay, okay, love that So I was thinking as a kid so the first thing is the easiest one that everyone thought of is that santa claus was real Okay, spoiler if you're riding in the color of your child

I'm sorry that they're crying. Do you guys remember what grade you were in when you found out? Spoiler, Max the Grinch. Yes, I remember specifically the moment because I was the youngest. Were you eating meatballs? I had two older brothers. I had a big plate of meatballs. I had two older brothers and like I had an uncle that had white hair and kind of looked like Santa Claus so we we would like look out our window some years and see and like see him go around the like in the backyard to like sneak in and Put the presents under the under the tree So we would always like try and catch Santa Claus and then one year I turned to my brother who I shared a room with It was like five years older than me and I was like I was like hey Do you think we're gonna see Santa tonight? He's like dude Santa's uncle Charlie. Oh, and it was like the worst moment of my entire life Meatballs you're like who was that snowballs at all those years. We were actually throwing meatballs. Yeah, those are ice meatballs

Max's Max's biography is yeah. Yeah, his life is meatballs. All right good pick I'm so excited for whatever Hanks got in his brain right now me too. All right, so I'm yeah. Yeah. His life is meatballs. All right, good pick. I'm so excited for whatever Hank's got in his brain right now. Me too. All right, so I'm up? Yep. OK. I will go with that if you dug deep enough,

you could reach China. Yep, had it on the list. I honestly thought that I could. Every kid. And I was probably. Is that wrong? Yeah, it's very wrong. Because you can't reach, like, you

would melt before you reach the center of the Earth. Also, we have not even come close to digging to the center of the earth Yeah, so I looked this up a couple months ago. It's actually embarrassing. Yeah, how shallow the deepest hole ever dug It's like seven and a half miles. It's it's ridiculous. We need to it's Jurassic Park. Let's do that Let's rebuild Titanic to Titanic 2 and then let's figure out a fucking way to dig more than just seven miles into the rest of the Earth. Yeah. What if it's a fruity center?

We don't know. What if we're a big gusher? What if we're filled with cheese? Would be cool. Would be cool. OK, good one. These are all very good. I had that as well.

And this one, I feel like, is very relatable, that everyone probably had. I don't know if it's specific to a Sport but I was I thought I was going to the NBA. Yeah, that was that was I I was I I Thought that if I just you know was in my driveway shooting hoops Someone would come by and be like damn that kid. Yeah sign him up. I was like that with baseball, too Yeah, I that was that was my career. I was gonna gonna be baseball or be I was like I'll be a baseball player. If not, I'll just do basketball I had a really depressing conversation with Titus the other day because it dawned on me that

Like all of us sitting in this room max maybe because he played college ball. Yeah, mine was much later Yeah later like my my realization I wasn't going to the NBA was maybe 10 years old. When you look around, you're like, oh, I'm the fifth best player on my team, and there's how many teams? I asked Titus that, and he's like, yeah, actually, I really struggled with that because I thought I was going to the NBA till I was a senior in high school. I was like, damn, that actually probably really, really sucks.

There's probably a piece of him that going into college was like, well maybe, maybe if I work hard enough. Yeah, but like. Me, Mike Conley, Greg Oden, we're all gonna be in the NBA together. He said he was six four when he was in eighth grade and he never grew again. So it's like, it kinda fucked him. But I, yeah, like normal kids, I think they all have the same thing where,

you know, they're eight, nine, 10, they're like, damn, I'm doing it, I'm gonna go to the league. And then you have that moment where you're like, no, no, I'm not. Yeah. That hurts. I'm doing it. I'm gonna go to the league and then you have that moment. We're like no no I'm not yeah, that hurts hurts a lot, but I thought that for a while as all we do we all did I Will go this is this is the recent one. This is a recent one alright kissing equals sex oh Okay, so you just found that out. That's not the recent one, but that I thought for a long time Yeah, that's how you thought babies were made a great. Yeah. Yeah, great one. I would you say sexual other kissing that's I was like other naked kissing that

Yeah, yeah, cuz you would watch a movie and they would whatever. Yes. Yes a French kiss. That's a good one and Then I will go with if you fell through a cloud you'd come out soaking wet. Mmm. That's not true. No Yeah, I don't I don't know I feel like that kid that picture didn't count. Like what if it's raining? I feel like it's not true. Like I always thought that if you fell through a cloud same then all the water would just fall. Same. Oh, you thought that you would pierce the cloud and then the cloud water balloon. Okay. Yeah, basically falling water balloon And it would pop yeah But I think that I still think that's true. No because if you fly through clouds the plane doesn't come out wet

Are you sure? Yeah, sometimes right? Yes, I'm only if you're underneath well if you run if you run through fog like really dense fog you get moist right? My I was thinking I was like my thing was the water I just thought of another one that I went skydiving and in foul and fell through a cloud that it would just pop the entire Cloud would extend then water would just fall everywhere. Yeah, I just literally just triggered that Okay, yeah, so I'll go with this next pic cuz I your your thought can I specify that if you fell through a cloud that It would pop. Yeah, yeah, yeah make it make more sense. Yeah Because I I had to double-check cuz I I guess maybe I still thought a small part of me thought this was real till

Right this second But if you're an elevator and it falls and you jump at the end you survive you're gonna be safe. Yeah That's not that's that's true. No, I just looked it up. It's not true. That's what I'm saying I thought that as a kid I haven't thought about it for a long time But I was like I got a double check because wait is it true It's not it's not you would die. Yeah, all right P great-grandpa. That's my pick. I well he was underneath hell Yeah, yeah, it's in there. Yeah Provocation was he doing was he doing at the bottom that elevator fuck was he doing under that elevator? Yeah, one place you don't want to be I definitely thought that maybe a little bit of thought that till now

Just kind of like I still think you're wrong about the cloud thing But this is good. We're learning Learning today, so that's my next pick. Okay This is tough. There's a lot of good ones on the board right now. I used to be very, very, very dumb. These are very personal. Yeah. Okay. Uh, I used to think that when you'd watch a rerun of a show on TV, that it was an all new taping of the exact same script. That's good I thought I thought that like I'd be watching saved by the bell and then my live music yeah yeah exactly they're

doing the same song but they're just taping it again for us and broadcasting live very dumb yeah very dumb very dumb yeah September 1997 Fresh Prince is the best one. Very good. What's your favorite version of the September 1997 Fresh Prince? Max? If you eat a watermelon seed it'll grow in your stomach. Yeah. That one again, that's definitely in the list of I don't know. I'm not 100% sure on that one. And I remember this as a kid one time

Searching for this that there was a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Mm-hmm. Yeah Yeah, so you'll look for it. Yeah, you guys compare it to drive towards the end of the rainbow. Yeah. Yeah, that's good That's good. Okay Pft back to you I'm gonna say I used to think that they sold marijuana and cocaine at drugstores. So we'd be driving past a drug store. You were never a drug guy.

No, we'd be driving past the store and I'd be like, dad, why do they sell drugs at that store? Shouldn't they be arrested? And be like, no, it's a different kind of drug store. Yeah. It's legal drugs. Yeah. Cratum. It's the drugs that, yeah, that will be illegal soon. That's a different kind of drugstore. Yeah, it's legal drugs. Yeah, create them. It's the drugs that yeah that will be illegal soon That's what they sell there. Yeah

Okay, good pick. I have one that's a little bit older than just kid. It's more teenage. But uh Again, I think it's relatable. I think everyone had this moment in their life I Used to think that my parents had no idea when I was higher drunk and they always knew Always fucking knew like you remember just coming home and being like I I played that off perfectly Yeah No chances you played off perfectly because like being older and see and being sober around drunk people you always know when someone's drunk Yeah

I thought that my mom had no idea that I threw up three times in my room one night And she came in the next day and she was talking about how it smelled like cologne Yeah, and I was like I written. Yep. She bought it. She's like she thinks it's the cologne reeking like weed and being like Damn, I'm suave. They had no idea. Mm-hmm. Let's get some Old Spice on this thing Good hang. I'm sure you had it or did you do you still think your parents didn't know? Oh, no, they knew good. Hang on. I'm sure you had it. Or did you do you still think your parents didn't know? Oh no, they knew. Because I mean credit, like I don't know how it was like my parents were at least as long as I was home safe, they weren't going to like, be like, you're drunk. Yeah. In my head, I was like,

I'm good. You know, I just got in trouble so many times that it got to a point where as long as I wasn't super fucked up, I'd be like, I got away. Yeah. I'm not talking about obviously there's been super fucked up time. I'm talking about like that middle zone where it's like you're fucked up, and you think that you're pulling it off Yeah, you're never what you learn is that your parents just don't want to deal with yeah They just want you to get home safe. Yeah, okay, you're home I don't want to make a thing it was as long as I never got caught in the act I caught like throwing up a couple times that was always a big problem I always try and make an excuse and say it was somebody else

Big problem. I always try and make an excuse and say it was somebody else Someone else I threw up in my room and I like took a shower at like four o'clock in the morning and my dad came Up and was like why is her puke in your room? And I was like it wasn't me Yeah, someone else's weed. Someone else's beer. Yeah one time my parents found a empty case of natural light in my room and I just stared at it and I tried to think of a lie and after about like five seconds I just looked at most I got I got nothing yeah yeah you just I just blame it on a friend and they'd be like why are you carrying these beers oh it's someone else's what what and then you think in your head like I got fucking wow what it what it's what I'm like what's the guys name and

catch me if you can Frank I'm Frank Gavin yeah I'm Frank, uh, what's the guy's name and catch me if you can Frank? I'm Frank Gavin That's what Michael Irvin did with the cops. He was like this isn't it's not my pipe I'm I'm holding it for a friend who recently asked me to help him quit smoking. Yes, so I took it from him Yeah, then I put it under my seat. I got caught with a fan in the kitchen one time I was smoking weed and I like coughed and I was like I think if I fan out the air where I just coughed out the window It'll be it'll be fine And then my parents were like why is there a fan in the kitchen and then I just was so I just looked at them I was like the word the worst one I got was I got caught with

the I don't know if you guys used to do this back in the day the paper towel roll Sploop the whole yeah I'm not even talking about you. Are you talking about like the dryers? Yeah, I'm talking about making a bowl out of the paper towel I would do the top little tin foil punch the holes into the tin foil and then you put your hand over it you smoke it And then you let your hand off They just found a huge paper towel roll with a hole on top with tin foil. And they're like, what?

Did they have any idea? It's like, no, it's a science project or some shit. I was an Apple guy. You're an Apple guy? I'm an Apple guy. We used to go to the store. It was a can. A can?

Soda can. Crunch it up, yeah. We used to go to the store. Soda can was big. We would buy a 20 ounce plastic bottle, some big ballpoint pens and then Nestle Crunch bar because it had tin foil yeah and so we were like MacGyver yeah like you just you put me in a store and I'll figure out how to make a ball it was pop tarts someone told me that Bible Bible paper you could smoke that's crazy that's

crazy we should make a gravity bomb no that's the worst feeling in the world school we should make oh yeah after a gravity bomb. No, that's the worst feeling in the world. No, old school we should make. Oh yeah, after a gravity bomb hit? There's no worse feeling than being so high after a gravity bomb. And there's nothing you can do about it? No, it's panic. It's panic. We could turn the bed of my El Camino into a giant gravity bomb. I'm down. A bathtub gravity bomb? That's what it was when I got caught with the fan I was doing. Here's what we do. We fill up the El Camino with water water like one of those Philly dumpsters that they hang out in and then

We get like a giant recycling bin, and we put a hole in the top of it I love it press it down biggest hits out of love it I use we so like hide obviously like vodka and water bottles And that's how we could kind of like you know bring it in and out in and out of the house and one time my mom replaced the booze with laundry detergent or like bubble, some dish soap, like clear dish soap, and I drank the whole thing and I legit burped a bubble and was like, I think.

Oh, she got you. Yeah, she got me bad. And then the other worst one, this was by far the worst of, I thought I got away with it. I would have this you know the the splew with the dryer sheets in it in my bathroom that didn't have windows and I did this one time because I thought it would work Turn the shower on when hot towel door and then there was a ventilator So I was like all the smokes going up there. I'll smoke like a little a little bowl before Blow in the thing and then I'll be in the shower for like 20 minutes So by the time I'm out the the you know condensation has washed it out That vent went straight to my basement

So I walked out into like my dining room my parents were just like what were you doing? I was like oh, what's up guys? They're like It we know that vent goes to the basement guys are like, you know that vent goes to the basement. I was like, Oh, that was great. Little tangent. Yeah. Yeah. That was nice. That was nice. I think it's, I think an AWL sent me this one. So shout out that guy, the Mount Rushmore topic. I can't remember. I'm pretty sure. So I apologize. That person shout out you, you know who you are. All right. So you have two picks alright I will go with girls pee from their butt. Yep, okay, and

This was the recent one that blind drive signs meant that a blind person lived there I learned that in my 20s Wait where it says like blind blind drive. What about blind? Oh, yeah, that's not yeah I'm thinking mine pedestrian but blind pedestrian crossing means that there is a blind person But blind drive means that you just can't see the drive. Yeah, I always thought that meant that a blind person and they drive there All right, I have one more This one's very dumb and it comes from something you're told as a kid than I just assumed. I thought my balls, my testicles were play dough. So when my parents told me don't eat play dough, I thought they were trying to be like,

hey, don't eat play dough because your balls will just get bigger because it will just go right to your balls. I thought my balls were play dough. You just don't know what they are when you're a little kid and you said like that first time went way before puberty You like start touching me like this is weird. Mm-hmm. Oh my god must be play dough. That's why they tell me not to eat play dough That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. This is my last pick. Yeah, okay last pick I Will go I I Honestly used to think that every adult was smart.

Yeah, I thought if you were grown up, yeah, you knew what was going on. Yeah, they kind of lied to you. You understood it. Yeah. And then you grow up and you're like, we're all done. No, we're all really fucking dumb. Yeah. Yeah, you don't know. I was probably smarter when I was a kid than I am now. I was definitely more intellectually curious. Yeah.

I was definitely asked better questions. Yeah. And like had had a more a mind that was like trying to figure things out instead of just being like, oh, that's what it is. Yeah. But if an adult said something, it's like, yeah, no, they're right. They're an adult. Yeah. Because most grownups either are bullshit. Like those they'll they'll answer something just because they don't want to be wrong with little kid or they just say it is what it is. Or yeah, or they're very confident and not smart at all. Yeah.

Those are ones you want to watch out for. I need a new, I need a new fact because like my kids always say when I, when I tell them plans, I try to tell them the plan so they know what's coming and they'll be like, we know that already. So then I was like, well, how about this? Did you know the Peregrine falcons the fastest animal and that blew their mind, but I don't have a second one Another fun like an animal fact or anything act in general. That's the extent of my knowledge You can always go I don't have anything that I'm confident. Did you know that Detroit's further east than Atlanta? Yeah, okay

That one's good. Yeah human head weights eight pounds. Yeah, McGuire going to okay. All right max your last one Human head we see eight pounds. Yeah McGuire going to okay. All right max your last one um teachers lived at school Yeah, good pick great one also big cat you go with did you know that clay Thompson's last game with the Warriors he went over 10 Yeah True yeah, but that's a good pick max I had that on my list too. I thought about that one Yeah, also nothing worse when you the once a year you called your teacher mom. Yeah, I thought about that I thought about saw I thought of teacher lived at school I thought about that as well. I was like, I don't know how to do that All right, what other ones I had um, I thought

Because this is like when technology was you know before the internet everything I thought my Gameboy controlled the airplane Yeah, that's why they told you to turn it off. Mm-hmm So I thought like they're like turn it off because if you hit left here when you're playing you know Tetris it's gonna go the plane's gonna go left. Yeah. I also thought a million dollars was the most amount of money you could have. You max out. When you get a million dollars you're set for life. When. Yeah. Nothing else like no one will ever. You're just you retire. If you have a million dollars boom you're done you retire at the age of seven I thought that I thought I was an elf when I was a kid who I thought because I had 20 years I saw myself the mirror one time was like fuck small I

might be an elf that's tough I used to think you actually won the money when you get a pop-up on your computer. Yeah. Yeah. Scams. Yep. I also, in that same vein, thought there was no correlation between what I was downloading on LimeWire and my computer's crashing. Yep. Yep. Oh, I mean, yeah.

You could have a long conversation about songs that you thought were other band songs. Yeah. I thought Dispatch wrote Crazy Game of Poker. Oh. I mean, every 50 Cent song was just Soulja Boy. Every song was Soulja Boy. Yeah. Any others, Max, that you had?

Duct Tape was Duck to UCK. Like, it was ducks. Made out of ducks? Oh, that's interesting. I was killing a lot of ducks. That's why it's called Duct Tape. Yeah. The only reason that kids had glasses was because they

didn't eat enough carrots. Yes. Carrots were big times. The Night Vision. Yeah. Thought I could get because they didn't eat enough carrots. Yes carrots are big times the night vision Yeah, I thought I could get night vision if I had enough care I'll show off a vision if you sit if you sit too close to the TV you'll go blind Oh the other one the if if you if someone slaps you in the in the back when you're making a face You're stuck with that face for the rest of your life. Mm-hmm. That was a big one I think you take a shower would during a lightning storm you'll get electrocuted. Yeah, I thought chocolate milk came from brown cows

North driving past a brown cow and I pointed to my cousin I say you know chocolate milk And he said what the fuck are you talking about? my cousin I say you know chocolate milk and he said what the fuck are you talking about okay I'm sorry I should have known that I should know that where did you think strawberry milk came from I I knew that was artificial okay I just I thought the Chuck the Brown was in the cow yeah you know and yeah I got mixed I don't know okay I used to think I was gonna be six feet tall because sometimes you go to a doctor and they're like okay you're you're projected to grow this tall yeah so I would be six feet tall I used to think I was gonna be six feet tall because sometimes you go to a doctor and they're like, okay, you're projected to grow this tall.

Yeah. So I would be six feet tall. I used to think OJ was innocent. I swore OJ was innocent up and down. Yeah. I was so happy when they found him not guilty. I, when video games like first started getting good, like, so this is, when did PlayStation come out?

PlayStation was like late 90s, right I Thought that I I would cuz like my my parents were like you can't play video games during the week. I Thought that I was pulling it off when like my mom would walk in the room and I was playing like 2k or Madden and I was like, it's not a video game. I'm watching the game. I'm watching sports. Yeah sports I thought the graphics were so good and they were so bad looking back at it. Yeah, I was just like, yeah, I got this. She has no idea that these aren't real games.

Man, so stupid, just so stupid. I used to think that if you found the Tootsie Pop that had the Native American shooting a star, you could take it to the gas station. They give you a new one. They give you a free Tootsie Pop that had the Native American shooting a star, you could take it to the gas station. They give you a new one. They give you a free Tootsie Pop. Yes. Yes.

Hank, any more? Any more recent? I mean, there's definitely some recent. Hank, I would like you to keep a running list of just things that you find out. Yeah. Just like things that upend small parts of your world. There's a couple that we have on this Mount Rushmore that I'm still a little 50-50 on. Elevator, clouds.

I think if you jumped high enough you might still get six feet. Yeah maybe. Did I say the chewing gum one? I can get the charger. Oh what? If you swallow it it stays there forever? That's one that I was... I was told it was seven years.

That was what I was told. Seven years. Regardless, I still might think that's true. Yeah, and Hank just swallows all his gum, is one of the most underrated not talked about enough stories on pardon my take that every time Hank chews a piece of gum He swallows it. I would get like the the CBS bags of gumballs That's crazy eat them like they were just that's crazy even to this day you swallow all your gum Yeah, that's fucking it is nuts crazy I when I was in like, I don't know how old I was but whenever you get like your first boners as a kid

I thought that meant that I had AIDS. Yeah, I thought it was like, oh, I'm sick. Yeah, I'm I don't know Yeah, yeah, it was a crazy time Okay, good good Mount Rushmore. That was a fun one. Some good tangents. Before we get to our interview with Matt Damon and Casey Affleck, we're gonna talk about their new movie, The Instigators. It's a hilarious Apple original film starring Matt Damon and Casey Affleck about two amateur criminals who are in way over their heads. From the director of Mr. and Mrs. Smith and the Bourne identity, The Instigators centers on Rory, an ex-Marine

in the need of cash who reluctantly teams up with an unpredictable ex-con named Cobby to pull a simple 15-minute job robbing the mayor of Boston. Sounds easy, right? Well, when every step of the plan goes haywire, Rory and Cobby find themselves in the midst of a statewide manhunt running from the police and the criminal underworld alike. With nowhere left to go, the pair turn to the only person they know qualified to handle a crisis. Rory's therapist played by Hong Chau and you don't want to miss the action-packed comedic

thrill ride that is The Instigators. Rated R, stream the new film August 9th only on Apple TV Plus. We're going to talk about it, the movie with them. I gonna it's I watched it we got a preview it's a great movie Apple TV has been crushing it so go watch the instigators on August 9th only on Apple TV Plus. Okay we now welcome on two very special guests it is Matt Damon and Casey Aflac. They have a new movie out called The Instigators. You can watch it on Apple TV. It is an awesome movie. We got a screener. We felt special for it. I guess my first question though is you guys been doing a bunch of interviews

today. Is this background like a knuckleball that's thrown at you where you're like these two idiots are now interviewing us? I don't know how we got this interview, but we're happy to do it. Everybody's got Draft Kings behind them so far today. Every outlet. We had your PR, one of your PR people were like, you guys have the most time with them. We don't know how that happened. And we're just like, oh shit. We're going to change that actually.

I guess we suck. Did I tell you? You got two minutes. Yeah. Yeah. So you've been doing a lot of interviews today. It's always interesting doing these because you were obviously promoting the movie What's the dumbest question that you've been asked so far and we'll make sure not to ask that question Mostly it's been the answers that are done the questions have been pretty good the but I don't want to put you guys some You know make you feel weird or anything But the last guy that interviewed us was an Olympic fencer competing in his third

Olympics this summer and just the sweetest guy. Great questions. Really smart killer athlete. So we got you and you know, but come on, you guys got 40 minutes. We're here. That's not a real sport. Let's be honest. Fencing.

I don't think you'd tell him that Oh, I would as long as you didn't have his little fence. It's not even a real sword. Yeah, right I like a little electronic thing It's one of the oldest sports to great sport. Didn't you see Princess Bride? You didn't like that? No, this was great That was real sword real swords. Yeah when they start using real swords and fencing. I'll start watching. Yeah probably was great. That was real swords. Real swords. Yeah. When they start using real swords and fencing, I'll start watching. Yeah. They used to, apparently he was just telling us that like we were, he was talking about the equipment and he said too many people used to die. So that's why they, they put the thing at the end of the sword now. Also that's saying boxing's not

a real sport because they don't use real fists. Like they got something, a cushy thing. Although the, that fencing store you just said, said Matt that feels like every fencing guy says that to be like actually we used to be really tough like you don't realize like it was so tough people died. So I feel like you got duped there. Alright so the movie though is awesome and my first question about the movie is you guys obviously have done so many things in your career. Is there something specific

when you work together and with Ben where you're like this is just so much more fun because we're hanging with our friends and like the familiarity of it is just brings you back to early days. Do you have that feeling when you when you when you do a movie together? For sure yeah yeah but also it's not only the familiarity it it's like the work process. Like when you go way back with someone, you don't waste any time on diplomacy, which takes up a lot of your day when you're in an artistic endeavor

with a whole group of people. A lot of times you're protecting everybody's feelings and you're, well, what's the best way I can say this? And when you're with your old friend, you're just like, feelings, and you're, you know, well, what's the best way I can say this, and when you're with your old friend, you're just like, dude, that sucks, man. We gotta do something else, like, you know, figure it out. And you kind of get to the root of the problem faster, and so much of filmmaking is just problem solving,

and so the quicker you can get to, well, all right, what's the problem, how can we fix it, the more fun it is, because you move faster, you're more efficient, like, there's a better kind of creative momentum. But because you have that foundation, it's like, you know, the problem with doing that with people you don't know is people's feelings get hurt or they feel like there isn't that underlying respect

or, you know, when that stuff's just a given, if you've known someone your whole life, it's just like, well, obviously I love and respect you, but like, you know, we're lighting money on fire in production right now. Like we had to figure this out. Yeah. Right now.

No feelings get hurt. Yeah. It's a fair point. You got the underlying relationship and you don't have to worry about pretending to be nice or at least just being nice and wasting time doing that. I have a dumb question about just being on a movie set in general. Does it ever get boring? Yeah.

Yeah. Like when you're filming a movie, cause like how much of your day is actually spent doing the work? Very little. Yeah. And, and it depends what you think of the work. The time there's a, there's an old saying that says it's it, what they call is it between action and cut as a take. Right. So there's this old tongue twister saying it's not the take that takes the time to take the take is the time between the take that takes the time to take the take it's all that time I just got hypnotized yeah action when you're like setting things

up or thinking about what you want to do next that's that's real good time spent sometimes but it takes up most of the day and if you added up all the seconds that were spent while the camera was actually rolling I don't know what would it be an hour you know I mean Maybe a couple more during on a 10 hour day or something. So most of the time is downtime. A lot of that time is when other people are doing what they need to do. Like you do your bit and then they got to move all the equipment and do stuff. And so you got to wait the same way. It's probably boring for the, for the crew sometimes when you're, you know, need on take 10 of some scene that

you're doing and they've heard it a million times and they don't want to. But so you learn to be patient. You learn to occupy yourself with other things or to like use that time to think about what you're going to do next. Yeah. Yeah. And I imagine having your friends around people that you've known a long time makes all that time a little bit better.

It makes it easier. It goes unwordled. You try to like spend the time like catching up with your buddy and that's over there doing like Tetris, six hours a day. Wait, what is the game you're playing, Matt? Is it Wordle? Does it take you six hours to do Wordle?

It does not. It does not take me six hours to do Wordle. No, I usually like, if it's a slow day, if I know it's like a boring day, like entrances and exits, like sometimes I'll bring my phone and catch up on emails and do stuff. And like Ben and I are also, you know, we have this studio, Artist Equity, and so that's, that's a, it takes a lot of time.

Even when I'm not there in the office, there's a lot of stuff that needs to get done. And it's angry birds, little mattress. So this movie is great, but when you guys were creating this and coming up with the idea, were you like, hey, we know we can play the hits here because people are going to love us back in Boston. You got the heist. It's a comedy as well. There's got to be a part of you where you're like,

not playing the hits, but if you guys, if someone said a mad lib like Matt Damon, Casey Affleck, Ben Affleck are doing a heist movie in Boston and it's funny. It's like, yeah, I'm in, I'm a hundred percent in. I'll watch that all day. Did that go through your thought process? Like we know this is going to be a hit. No, I wish we'd talked to you back when we were, yeah, we would have confidence.

Um, no, we case wrote the script with Chuck McClain, who's a Boston guy, and like, there was a lot of work. Once we started figuring out who was gonna be in it, there was a lot more work to do, so Case and Chuck came back to New York, and we worked with the director. We were like, locked in a room for like three months, trying to figure it out, but what we really knew

we wanted to do was a movie that was fun and moved fast, like had a momentum to it, and that was just really entertaining. That was kind of our, like Midnight Run is the kind of North star for us for movies like this. It's kind of a perfect movie because it actually has some kind of emotional heft at the end too. It's like it really sneaks up on you, but it's really fun throughout the whole movie. And you're with the characters, even when they're bickering and arguing. And so that's what we were trying to kind of model the movie on. And that's kind of really all we were thinking.

It never felt like a layup. It never felt like a layup with a clear lane. You know, it was, we really wanted to be good. And I actually don't think that everyone's gonna, like if you made a stinker, people will let us know. It's not like, ah, you know, they're gonna just go anyway. Not these days. Like you gotta make a good movie.

People find out about it really quick. Everyone's on social media, they go, this movie sucks, and nobody goes. So we knew that we had to do something good and doesn't matter who's in it. Just got lucky that we had our director, Doug Liman, put someone great in every single part. Like, really experienced comedians and great actors

and so kind of supported us. Do you guys, when you guys are doing movies, I'll start with you, Casey. If you are embarking on a project, how quickly can you tell this is a hit or this might not be, this might not turn out exactly how I want it to be? I don't do that that well. Even when the movie's done, it's hard for me to see exactly, I just get too close to things.

So sometimes movies over, I'm like, when I see the first cut of a movie, I'm like, oh man, we didn't do it, it missed. And then people really like it. And then years later you watch it again and you're like, that was really good. It was pretty good. It takes me a minute and some distance to be able to see a thing that I've been in clearly. And when you're on set and when you're reading it before you get to set, it's

just a shot in the dark. I mean, your, your, your only guide is like, who are the other people involved? Do I wanna work with them? Do I respect them? Do I like, you know, is this gonna be something I can learn on? Is there something I think I can contribute?

Whether it turns out as to be good, it's just, there's too many factors. It's out of your control. You can put together, assemble the best people in the planet and still make something that just doesn't work. So you got to go in focused on the process and letting go of the results in some way. Yeah. You talked about some of the great actors that are in this film and one of my favorites is in here, Paul Walter Hauser, great actor. Oh, man. Fantastic actor, right? Yeah, he's amazing.

So as you're writing this movie, do you envision him in this role? Or when he was cast in this role, were you like, okay, this is perfect? Had you worked with him before? I'm enthralled with everything that he does. He's just so good. First thing I had seen was Blackbird, and it was right before they were casting it. And I was like, that guy's amazing. That is a great performance.

Didn't know him, didn't know anything else about him. I didn't know him. I mean, I'd seen him in Jewel and- That's right. That's right. And Blackbird. But no, I mean, he's also one of those guys, you know, we've been doing it for a long time

and like we kind of know how the magic trick's done. And when you see somebody up close, who's just a baller, it's just undeniable. Like from the second he walked on set and started working, you're like, God, that guy is so freaking good. He really is one of the best actors out there. So yeah, we're trying to do something else with him at Artist Equity now, a project that he wrote actually.

I want to do as much as I can with him just because I think, I just think he's incredible. Can I pitch a two projects for him that I think he would knock out of the park? Yeah, tell him. One would be- You have to sign some first. Okay, no, you can steal this. Steal my IP. One would be him playing Andy Reid in the Andy Reid story.

Oh, that's a great idea. I think it crushed that. That's not bad. Yeah. And then Confederacy Dunces. If that movie ever gets made, he needs to play Ignatius. Seymour Hoffman was looking at that for a really long time and got close, I think, a few times.

I remember talking to him about it 20 years ago. I read a few scripts of that. Yeah. And never quite as good as the book, but that's a good call. Those are two really good calls. And in fact, next fall when I get home tonight, I'll tell him. Let him know. I wish I could buy stock in somebody winning Best Actor at some point.

Like if there was a market out there, I'd put a lot of money on that guy. That's a good call. Yeah, that's a very good call. We should do that. We should create a stock market for. There was something called the Hollywood Stock Exchange for a while. I don't know if you could bet on them being. I think movies you bet on or something or was it just.

You buy stock in actors and movies and then it goes up and down based on not sure what. But I think that's the hard I like that yeah we'll figure out the market for that that added question for you did you not get invited to do a roast at Tom Brady's thing no I did I did that's why I did the voiceover at the beginning because I couldn't go to LA because I was in New York and I had to go to the Met Bowl the next day. Oh, what happens there? Met ball kind of guy. Yeah. Oh no. Is that true? Are you a Met Gala guy over a Tom Brady guy? Don't don't judge him. Guys, here's the key to a happy marriage. I would

rather be happy than right. Okay. Yeah. So but it is Tom Brady. It is Tom Brady and Tom understood. I texted, I texted with him. He invited me to go out and then, and then it was good that I was able to, there was a, there was a nice little video package they did at the beginning. And so I went to a studio here in New York and did a voiceover for that. I wasn't invited here if you're curious. Yeah. Did you, did you help Ben? I was invited to roast. Okay. Yeah. Did, how'd you think your brother did? I actually didn't see it. Okay, that's good. So you could just say he did well. You could just be like, great job. I'm sure he did really good. I'm pretty good at a roast though.

I kind of roasted Matt at his wedding. That was great. Trust me. You did? What did you say? Oh, he killed me. He did like 30 straight minutes of stand-up like he was Dave Chappelle or something. That was my one shot and I took it. He just destroyed me in front of like my family and friends. It was incredible.

Yeah, you're allowed to do that at a wedding. You're allowed to just be like, here are all the things. It was also a wedding. This was 15 years ago or something, but my wife and I had already been together for 10 years and we had been married for eight eight of those years. And so it was like, we had run to the courthouse when we got married, and so we never got to have a wedding. So like 10 years after we met, we decided to do a big wedding. And so it was kind of a more fun affair

because it wasn't like, ah, is it gonna work out? Like we were already married for a long time and we just had a big fun weekend with our friends and until Casey. That was fun weekend with our friends. And, um, until Casey... Yeah, you can't... That was smart of you, Casey. You can't... What's the worst that could happen? They're just gonna go back to being married,

which they've done for eight years before? Yeah, that was very nice about Lucy. Yeah. Because she deserves it. Um, all right, so, uh, we're taping this a couple months before it comes out. Uh, do you guys want to give us a prediction on the Celtic season so that way you can either look really smart or really bad? Yes, yes. I'll give you my prediction.

Well, my hope is obviously probably what all our hope is, but my prediction is, I mean, Port Zingis is probably coming back after game four. Did a horn just go outside? Like, shut up, man. I was inside. Look, I think we're the best team left. I think we're the deepest team and if we can stay injury free and if he can come back, I feel like we really should win this thing and I'm hoping that we do. I will be gutted if we don't. Especially after that, we're taping this just before game two in the Eastern Conference Finals.

I didn't love how close the game was at home the other night, but it was a it was we definitely stole one back from them. And so it feels like one of those faded years. Yeah. At the moment. But I'm you know, it'll be I'll be gutted if we don't win it. OK. And Casey, well, you got the wolves or something. It'd be funny if you were just like, yeah, wolves in five. No no problem I want to ask you guys a question that you guys see dynasty yes yeah you did did you feel like it was fair no no not at all we ripped it apart it was it was a it

was basically robber craft being like I need more credit for everything that's happened which is a crazy thing to think about because if you're an owner of a sports team you are a billionaire you own the team you're never gonna get as much credit as the quarterback and the coach but all these guys they want this credit of being like I did more than everyone realizes and in in doing that he ends up kind of looking bad and he makes like I think they slanted it so hard against Belichick that everyone who has watched the Patriots the last 20 years were like this is not how it happened. Like this is the best coach of all time. What are they talking about? So I think it actually hurt him. And you think that that agenda came from from Robert Kraft?

I think Robert Kraft wants to get into the Hall of Fame and I think he kind of overplayed his hand here because they don't let a lot of owners in like Jerry Jones just got in, I don't know, like five, six years ago. How would Robert Kraft not get into the Hall of Fame if any other owner is in the Hall of Fame? Well, Matt, I don't know if you know, but the Patriots have been involved in some controversies with the NFL. So that might be why. Those are fake controversies. He'll get in. But I think he was trying to basically put out like a documentary saying, this is all I did. And in watching it, we're just like, what is going on here? It's hard. It's hard to do that with a documentary to to have an audience, watch it and understand

exactly what the agenda is as you're watching it. Sometimes you go back and you're like, oh, well, it turns out his production company was involved. Yada, yada, yada. As you're watching this, when you see the interviews with Coach Belichick and he looks like he'd be, he'd rather be anywhere else than in that chair answering these questions. He always looks like that in an interview. But that's a fair point, but I felt like it was especially in this one and you understand that they shot it during the season while he was an employee of Robert Kraft who was like telling him, hey, go sit for this interview.

Because I actually think Belichick would not have sat for any interview with anyone if it was just his own choice. Right. But he was kind of made to do it. So yeah, it ended up, I think, being like a little bit more sympathetic towards Belichick and that point of view than they wanted it to be. Yeah. Because everyone just- You than they wanted it to be. Yeah, because everyone just. You know what was interesting to me about that?

One of the details was that him and Ernie figured, saw that Drew Bledsoe was getting nervous, getting skittish feet in the pocket. I never, ever knew that, and that never came out. Remember that year when it was going down, everyone was like, who's he gonna play this week? Oh my God, he's putting the kid back in. Because Bledsoe was the guy in New England,

a $100 million contract and all that stuff. I never realized that they actually saw something. They were like, because Bledsoe played in that era where he took punishment. And how does that not get to you, the accumulation of all those hits? You start thinking about that you're coming off of an injury and that it was actually a calculated decision They were like well the 22 year old kids cool with it like yeah, let's leave him. Yeah That I thought was really cool. I'd never I'd never known that it all says it was so well done

It's like a hundred percent of Rotten Tomatoes watching it You just sit down and you watch from beginning to end It's like one of the best sports talks I think it leaves people with the impression that that is how it was that you know what I mean there I haven't talked to a lot of people that are like I don't know like I think we got manipulated a little bit I think you know the kind of take that you have is not the take that I hear most of the time most Most people just go like wow it was interesting to learn that Belichick was like X Y & Z right I'm saying I think this might have been here's another question though just real quick so I know you guys know so much about this

like what's gonna happen to Aaron Rodgers what do you mean he's probably gonna probably get injured again he's gonna get injured and then he's gonna run for vice president and he's gonna become vice president the United States I'm a Bears fan. So Aaron Rodgers has tortured my entire life. So I hate him. I've been trying to get him put in jail for a very long time. And then the minute you're on about the draft choice of it as a Bears fan, you gotta be pretty. Yeah, he's incredible. He's eccentric. He's cool. Paints his fingernails. That's not a problem, right? I don't see why that

would be a problem. No, I'm just wondering if you think it'd be it's that number one It's that it's really tough. Like do you get Peyton Manning or do you get you know, yeah, Mitch you bit Well, I mean you didn't have to say Mitch Mitch was the second pick so that was a second pick But but but my homes was in that draft So he was he was that's got her. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we, you know, you guys got Drake Mace. So Hank, our producer is a big Patriots fan. He was actually in the documentary cause he went to jail for Tom Brady. Um, he didn't like the documentary. He thought it was too slanted. So I don't know. Maybe it's slanted all around. Yeah. He thought it was just too

much hate on Bill Belichick and not giving it. I did. I liked Belichick's thing at the roast where he said, you know, it's brave of you to do a roast for a couple hours like rather than like in a ten-part Apple series Right. That was really funny. Yeah Have you so so going off of that Hank our producer? He admitted a couple weeks ago that he is like for the first time in his life He's like has to come to grips with the fact that he might just be a loser this year in football. Have you guys had that thought where you're like, oh, this is different now. We're losers again. If Hank is

grew up with Patriots, if Hank is an old school Patriots fan and he's anywhere near our age, then he's not 30. All he's known is joy. He's got no fucking idea. Being a Patriots fan was a certain kind of hell for, and it's true and maybe this is why we have a different perspective on the Robert Kraft thing, until Robert Kraft bought the team. Yeah. Like they were, it was brutal going out to Foxboro

to watch them play. It was brutal watching them play on TV. Like it just was, it was heartbreaking constantly. In fact, his dad used to always say, bet against the Patriots, no matter what, just bet against the Patriots. If you want to make money gambling, the only sure thing to do is bet against the Patriots when we were kids. So I'm comfortable with knowing that they're going to go through that kind of predictable next stage.

You got to rebuild. You got to rebuild properly. Yeah. Hank is young enough where he's only known joy in his life as a Boston sports fan So across that's amazing to me like cuz cuz our formative years were so different like between this I mean we had we had the Celtics in the 80s, which was huge I was all ahead with and that's what we had But every other team was just a would break your heart every year the Patriots less so because they just were never good They were it was like excruciating watching them play. Yeah would break your heart every year. The Patriots less so because they just were never good. It was like excruciating watching them play. Yeah. Yeah. So if you were to rank your favorite, like top three Boston sports memories, what would they be? Memories? Yeah.

Small memories being there are just moments. I guess your three favorite championships. All right. Well, I have to start with oh four. Yeah. Without it. I mean, I went to the parade. I drove up from, from New York and got to Boston and we were all going to the parade. We have my nephews, we had everybody, my oldest daughter. And I literally ran up to Boylston street before we were going to go meet them at the, at the river to watch the duck boats go out by myself and stood on Boylson Street and just cried. I was in my 30s as the duck boats went by.

That's how profound that was for, I didn't think we would, it's that thing that you couldn't believe. It's like the dog catching the car and then eating it in front of you. Like, I just couldn't believe it. Matt and I, in 2004, we went to Yankee Stadium. It was game three.

Game three, it was the moment the curse got broken. They didn't lose. That was the end of losing, because then they won that game, they won the next three games, and then they swept Cincinnati, and we finally won the conference. See how bad it was. We wore Red Sox hats into Yankee Stadium and we thought all right

We'll see what happens And as we walked in they everyone was like, oh like it's so cute that you were wearing your hat Like they just so didn't care like it was so not a rivalry to them. They were so sure they were gonna win Oh, it was just awful. Casey. They're gonna cook you in the comments to this video. You meant to say Cardinals. They swept the Cardinals. Yeah, yeah. You meant to say Cardinals.

We got your back. We'll edit it out. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Cooked me, then? Yeah, yeah. I've been cooked before. Good. We'll edit it out.

So wait, who's in those championships, but who's your Mount Rush Warmer? I should have known that because it was John Ham's team, huh? Yeah. Who's your Mount Rush Warmer of Boston athletes? Oh, that's John Ham's team, huh? Yeah. Who's your Mount Rushmore of Boston athletes? Oh, that's a great question. That's a great question. Thank you. I mean, obviously, Tom, for football, there's zero doubt about that.

Wait. No, no. For baseball, so here's the thing. I would go Big Poppy. I think a lot of people would say Ted Williams. I'm going to say- In our life? No, no.

You're saying Boston all time. OK, right. Because when you get to basketball, what do you do? Bill Russell, right? Eleven championships player coach. Like, how do you not put Bill Russell on that Mount Rushmore? You never see that again. Right. But then you've also got Larry.

You've got Paul Pierce. You've got the big guy. I like Paul. I don't think he's on Mount Rushmore. No, no. But I'm just saying all the red. Is that you Red Arbok. All is said and done. So and then Bobby Orr. So I would probably go Tom, Poppy, Bobby Orr, Bill Russell. Okay.

That's a good four. Yeah, that's a strong four. So if you're casting like the 28 to 3 Patriots if you're making a movie I Assume that you guys would be involved in the production of that that feels like it would be right in your wheelhouse Who plays hopes up who plays what role? Well, I cast him as Matt Ryan Yeah, good answer. Yeah Who gets Tommy?

What's that who gets to play Tommy? Who plays Tom Brady? I don't know. Who plays Tom Brady? Who today? What young actor could play Tom Brady? Yeah. Oh, Jacob Elorti? This guy's like, you know, tall. He's a good actor. He's awesome. I don't know. I'm not gonna cast it.

Gronk plays himself. That's the important part. I don't think anybody would believe it if you made it into a movie. Yeah, it's true. What's the one role that you passed up that you kick yourself constantly? You're like, damn, I really should have taken that role. You know, it's funny. I really have a more kind of Zen philosophy about this because there's a lot of roles I've passed up that were really great, that turned into great movies.

But for one reason or another, I had to pass it up. And I really feel like the right actor gets the part. It just kind of works out. But the biggest one that I ever passed without a question, I had a chance to be an avatar, but it conflicted with the Born Ultimatum, with the post-production of the Born Ultimatum, so I just couldn't do it. And the bummer for me was that I couldn't work with Jim Cameron because he doesn't work that often.

And I realized in passing, I was like 35 years old, I was like, I'm probably not going to get another chance to work with Jim Cameron. And that sucks because I really would have loved to work with him. I was like, I'm probably not going to get another chance to work with Jim Cameron. And that sucks because I really would have loved to work with him. I love his movies. I would have learned a lot. And I probably would have made more money than any actor in history had I taken the part.

But it doesn't keep me up at night. I mean, I know why I had to pass. So I'm at peace with it. Sounds like every now and then. Sounds like every now and then. I don't really pass. Huh? Sounds like every now and then you think about how much money that would have been. I think it's because it's money. Because it's not real money. It's like the Vatican.

So it's not like that money got taken from me, which would have bankrupted me, by the way. It's just money that I I never it's like I also could have invested in Apple's 20 years ago yeah I mean but I didn't was it 10% it was 10% of the of the total earnings from the film yeah yeah do you ever go back and look at what the total earnings are and are the total earnings right now earnings are. Total earnings. And this is just Avatar 1.

Oh, no. This is Avatar 1, right? Yeah. There were Seek. 3 billion? $3 billion is the total earnings there. Is it 3 billion? 3 billion.

So that'd be... I'm not good at math. What's... 300 million. 300 million. You're good at math, Casey. Yeah. Wait, Avatar 2.

300 million. Oh, no. Oh, no. an avatar 2 is 2.3 billion oh and think about that man if you had thought about that he would have given me the same deal on the second one he'd be like dude come on and you would not you would have had that money and you also definitely would have been doing this interview with us us two shitheads right now. I would have been like So wait, what was the answer for you Casey is there one that you look back you're like I kind of wish not like a huge regret but like man I had that in front of me and it would have been cool if I did that. No. No. I mean,

no, I don't really, there haven't been a ton that have been like people not begging me to do some movie that could be great and it isn't great. I mean, you know, and I don't think it is. It's, I mostly like see things I want and I just really try hard to get them. Yeah. And then I usually don't get them. And then some of them I do and then I do those There are very few that I pass on that have ended up being you know Try to think huge hugely successful or super cool movies Yeah, no way you would have passed on avatar right now he's not that dumb I would have told not to do it in fact because I was hoping they'd come to me next

There's have a sheet they're like alright Ben said no Matt said no okay see there you are Alright so this movie though is is is very good. I people need to go see it It's it's very funny I was it cool having a moment where you're like we're're back in Boston filming this, the, you know, the three of us together, you know, 20, whatever five years since goodwill hunting. Have you had that pinch yourself moment where it's like, you never thought in a million years when we did goodwill hunting, this is where we'd be right now.

Yeah. I, I like my dream was to my dream childhood dream kind of ended with Good Will Hunting coming out. And I remember that experience and afterwards going, well, what do I do now? That was it. That was all I ever wanted was to make a great movie and be in it.

And so the fact that we're still able to do this, we love this job, we in it. And so, like, the fact that we're still able to do this, like, we love this job, we love it. It's so fun making movies and having people like them. And if people like them, if enough people like them, then you get to do another one. And it's really hard to string together a career because there's no tenure or anything. You know, it's just what's your next thing. And so most careers kind of die on the vine or fizzle out or for whatever. It's very hard to sustain a career. And so the fact that we're still both working 25 years after that movie is great. And, and that is like a, that is the pipe dream really. Yeah.

So we're just trying not to screw it up. Yeah. Yeah. He's got to be very cool. Done a good job. Not screwing, really. Yeah. So we're just trying not to screw it up. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be very cool. Done a good job not screwing it up so far. You guys are very humble. Yeah. You guys both, you're really fucking good actors.

Thanks, man. I don't know. I feel like maybe this is why it's good that we don't have a ton of success, because I'd just walk around being like, yeah, I'm just going to make another hit. It's not going to be a big deal like whatever that's by the way that like you can't think that way in the mood because it's like that's like that's like poison like if you think this is gonna be a hit it's not

like the one time I was like this is gonna be a hit was that movie the Great Wall that I did that not a hit and it was The Great Wall that I did. Man, was that not a hit. And it was like, and I feel, I figured it out like a month into shooting and we had like four months to go. And I was just like, I came to realize that as the definition of a professional actor. It's true. Still get up every day and be like, and you're on a ship that you know isn't seaworthy. And you're like, I'm going on a ship that you know isn't seaworthy, and you're like, I'm gonna do everything that's asked of me, I'm gonna do, I'm gonna work my ass off today

for 14 hours. Like that, you know, that's a, that's a, that's a feeling that I don't wanna. I had the, I had that experience of being in the one that was like, Just Didn't Land, The Great Wall, on the same movie that also was my like this is the thing I've always waited for which was The assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford Brad Pitt was in it was like a studio movie with Brad Pitt I was the lead it was the one of the most beautiful scripts I've ever read with a great director and it was and then it it came out and nobody liked it. And it was like, just felt like the biggest disappointment for a minute.

And I thought, I love this movie. What do I care? You have to divorce yourself from those responses. And then ten years later, it was like, you know, people really loved that movie. Just for whatever reason. It wasn't in the moment. It was bad timing. And then people found it. So those kinds of ups and downs, like, you have to just roll with all of them if you want to keep working.

That's the weird thing, too, about what became way more common knowledge in the last 30 years is the box office. And I think because of the explosion of Marvel and all the IP movies, everybody started paying attention to the business side of things. That wasn't a thing when we were growing up. If I'd go see Robert De Niro in a movie, I didn't know how it did at the box office.

I wouldn't even know what that meant. And it's not really an accurate barometer of how good a movie is. It just means that a bunch of people went to see it. And so to try, it's like people make that thing of, they try to quantify a movie by how much money it makes. And it is one yardstick by which to take a measurement, but it's really not the only thing.

And it's never a measure of if something's gonna last and sustain and, you know, like Ben's movie, The Town just got rellicensed on by Warner Brothers a few years ago for like 35 million bucks. Like 15 years later, it's worth that much to one of these streamers because people are still watching the movie. And like that's a work of a movie that really works.

You know what I mean? It lasts. And I always thought like when they do the Academy Awards, the real best way to do it, if you take all the money and the marketing and all that stuff out, is to do the awards like 20 years after the movies come out. So this year you'd be voting on the movies

that were out in 2004. And then it would be so easy to go like, well, what made it? There's no spin. There's no, it's like, I still watch that movie. I still love that movie. Like that was the best movie of 2004. It would be, I think probably a more accurate gauge of, of, of whether a movie really works.

You could revoke. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we start that guys. Maybe instead of that's the new, we'll do a revolt stock exchange. We do a revoke. I like that But there are any sports stories that you guys think you wish would be made into movies. Oh the that was

1995 South African rugby team That nobody thought could win the World Cup and it was it was like a story of of races coming together too and like Post-apartheid South Africa. I think that's such a great story. I don't think that's gonna work. What about us? No if somebody did it right it would be my favorite movie ever but we just we need somebody to step up and do that. I'd like to see a movie on the time Joe Paz shit his pants during a game.

Just throw that out there. Like people would be like oh we're doing a Joe Paterno movie and we're like oh that's heavy it's like no no no it, it's just the time he shit his pants against Ohio state. That's the whole movie. Exactly. Or do it do a movie about how, how frequently Joe Missoula watches the town. That's where the 35 million came from, by the way, it's just Joe watches it every single day. Yeah, he does. We had him on. He said that. All right. So I had one last question. Ro back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code. Take 20 percent off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, ro back.com. Thank

you guys so much. The movie is awesome. My last question, Matt, I've heard you say it and talk about it, but Casey, I don't know if I've ever seen you talk about it. What do you think about your brother's back tattoo? It like it hurts. Classy, right? It's classy. By the way, we both had a tattoo on our back that we got when we were really, really young. That was way better. It was simple, elegant, meaningful. The other thing, but I like the guy, the tattoo artist that does that is very, very talented, a really nice, sweet guy. I think he just got talked into doing something that you know yeah What have we just made the entire back a tattoo he's like yeah, I guess

He's sedated for that like Jack Prescott was did they knock him out for the tattoo? Yeah, well, thank you guys. We really appreciate it I didn't even bring up the time my wife saw you Matt in Dumbo. That's my whole Matt don't Damon story She just saw you at dinner. So that's it. Yeah, that's the whole thing. I got we used to live in Dumbo So she's like, oh, I saw Matt Damon. That's the whole story though. There's nothing special. That's the story She didn't we didn't talk. No, no, she just no she just texted me. She's like, I just walked past Matt Damon Wow, pretty good story talk. No, no, she just, no, she just texted me. She's like, I just walked past Matt Damon. Wow. Pretty good story.

It'd be a better story if we actually say something to each other. She just saw you just texted me. I saw Matt Damon's like, oh, okay, cool. I said, I'll bet real quick. What is a rat at the end of the departed symbolized? We've, we've talked about this for years. Uh, I mean,'s probably, if Marty hasn't come out and said it, I mean, the whole movie is about rats and, you know. Oh, it's a rat. It's probably a rat. Yeah. I mean, the writer had in the script, in the original script, I lived in an old brownstone

in like Back Bay and that was the idea of me, of me kind of climbing the, you know, the social ladder and now I find myself in this old brownstone but there's still a rat that you, the rat comes across and it's, it's his past, it's the thing, you know, it's meant to symbolize all that stuff. But when Marty wanted to, wanted to see the state house, you know, to kind of, you know, and he's looking out at the gold, which meant that I was in kind of a more modern building. And so people kind of, some people bristled at the rat. They're like, what's a rat doing in that building? It looks a little anguished and so yeah, it's a rat. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you guys so much. We really appreciate

it. It was great to have you guys on and everyone go watch the instigators. It's an awesome movie. Thanks guys. Love your show. All right. Thanks guys. Before we get to fire fest of the week, we're brought to you by our friends at Chevy. As everyone knows, this is a Chevy truck podcast, the greatest trucks ever built. And our good friends at Chevrolet have been a big part of the pardon my take story from the Silverado helping us dig the biggest hole ever dug in Ohio during grit week to Silverado partnering with us to give college fullbacks all the rightful recognition they deserve with the low man ward to our nonstop cross country trip to the Super Bowl in LA behind the wheel of a Chevy Silverado.

Silverado has been part of all of it. You can't tell the story apart my take without the Chevy Silverado. Chevy Silverado, longtime awesome partner of the show, a truck with commanding and unstoppable grit. Legendary capability and dependability too. Every time I get behind the wheel of the Chevy Silverado, I'm like, man, they crushed it when it came to this truck. It is the top of the line when it comes to trucks. So if you're a truck person, aspiring truck person, Chevy Silverado is a truck for you. Find out for yourself, like so many other AWLs, head to Chevy.com to check out all the Chevy truck grit and build your own Silverado today for do-it-yourself projects to road

trips, off-road adventures to tailgates. Whatever your thing is, it all starts with a Chevy truck. Okay, let's get to FireFest. Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got FireFest of the week. Hank, you're back from vacation. I am get to FireFest. Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got FireFest of the week. Hank, you're back from vacation. I am. You're FireFest?

That's the problem with vacations. There's not really, there's not any bad things to talk about. Yeah. Yeah, you need a vacation from your vacation. So you got back today at two, you landed at two. Landed at two. So- I tried in traffic. When I landed, I had to sit in traffic for two hours.

Thursdays out and then tomorrow you'll be in the office? Yeah in the afternoon. Oh really? Why what are you doing in the morning? Well we have the week off and then Big Cat's you know been saying all summer like let's find a day to go to Beverly. Find a day to go play golf. And since technically this is a week off we are here right now we're gonna be here all

night I've been here all day. We're gonna be here all night. I've been here all day We're going on a work trip Saturday no big deal We're golfing you and I are golfing. Yeah, Hank's holding me hostage. I'm golfing tomorrow in the morning Excited have fun. Those greens are fast. I'm not I'm gonna play about nine holes What is that? Is that a slap in the members face? I think so really I don't know I told you I was saying oh, yeah, I'll call it set it up. Let's set it up This is a week off. You're like I gotta go do the yak. It's like, okay All right, maybe I'll be late to the heck. Maybe I'll play 12 holes whatever you want. No, I'm not an 18 hole

No, I know I'm not an 18. I'm just excited to you know, play some golf with my friends. Yeah, so what's your fire fest? I sad sin traffic two hours of traffic. Oh my god Are you okay? Yeah? Yeah? I mean that's that's it. I had a great week. Are you gonna cry? I love vacation Yeah, it was good. They could have refreshed feel refreshed right there. I mean to you yeah Traffic is I wouldn't wish that I mean I lost I also lost a Mount Rushmore to a fucking someone picking celery For a snack. Yeah, sorry peanut butter. Yeah, and you know that yeah, you're well I'm with Hank because we've got a meatball merchant named Max and He's just stacking wins because he keeps picking the fattiest foods well, and we're done with food drafts for the rest of summer

So we'll see how Max can hold up without having to just go meatballs on every draft. It has been a stunning, like Max had on fire in the Mount Rushmore season. Yeah I mean I've been, I did spend a lot of time reflecting and trying to you know revisit some some game plan and strategy things because like the snack draft I that one great for me I left that draft being like great draft and celery be dead last celery lost his celery celery yeah that yeah whooped you that really is has put my brain in a pretzel yeah okay PFT your fire fest I've had a pretty good week. It's been a nice little vacation here, but I think the joint Fire Fest is that the take ease have stirred up a lot of controversy. And there are some people who are very upset. Tom for Nelly, very upset for not being nominated for Italian of the year. Yeah. He's got a lot to work on with his Italianess this year. And I hope it, I hope he puts forth a better showing, but then the big controversy is from the Lib of the Year award. Yes.

And Jerry is really going through it right now because Jerry, he keeps alternating back and forth between like, okay, I, I appreciate the award and saying like, Oh no, please take it away from me. Everyone, please stop calling me the Lib of the Year. He texted me in Big Cat this morning asking us if we would rescind the award and take it away from him We reminded him that there is a cash prize that goes along with the award correct So he says that he's okay with with keeping it for now He did a quick 180 on that one, but he's really struggling with everyone calling him the lip of the year online

So please everyone if we could stop calling Jerry lip of the year online and don't remind him that he won the Lib of the Year award no matter what. Here's a good... So yeah, he was quickly backtracked when we told him the cash prize, he'd have to give that back. And we said that the cash prize is up to... It could be up to $20,000 depending on how many times people call him Lib of the year. But I agree with PFT, please stop calling him live of the year online. Instead, buy a Jerry live of the year shirt that's now in the store. So you can do it in real life, which would be better. Yep. Yep. And yeah, just no matter what, stop calling him that all the time. Like stop saying that to him every single minute that you're online.

He said that he's going to delete Twitter, but that's also because there was a picture of him eating a corn dog, getting a corn dog shoved down his throat. So he's having a tough time. He's having a tough go of it. He also has a picture going floating around with a Hillary Clinton trading card on his forehead. So it's been a tough week, but he did win the Libby here. So congrats to him. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he should be, I guess be proud of whatever award that you get. He's more of a participation trophy kind of guy though, I guess. So he wants everyone to have Lib of the Year. Yeah. There's actually in the new Twitter, there's the Explorer. And one of the top ones

I have right now is Lib of the Year award controversy. And it's got the AI summary. It says, Jersey Jerry, a prominent figure was awarded Lib of the Year title by the popular podcast, Pardon My Take. The announcement made by Nick Adams led to a flurry of reactions on social media. While many congratulated Jerry, he expressed discomfort with the overwhelming attention and requested a reduction in the frequency of mentions. The situation sparked a mix of support, humor, and criticism from various users, highlighting the complexities of public recognition in the digital era.

Perfect. I love it. It's perfect. Yeah. Also, how come nobody told me I look like I'm in hell right now? Um, well, you just changed your lighting. So how could we tell you that? It looks like you're on a play stage before.

Yeah. You changed your lighting. You were, I didn't change anything. Well, something, something changed. You look different. I'm at helping room I'm at I'm at Scully's right now, and I think they're getting ready for for soundcheck right now here we go That's better now. I'm in heaven. Yeah heaven hell It hasn't changed hell you were looking not like that and then something changed with the lighting all right my fire fest I got an easy one. night my son pissed on me

That was all so that was fun. He pissed all over. We were playing swords And he pissed across the toilet all over my leg So but that's the gate that listen when you get in the in between the lines You're playing swords with your son that you got to expect that to happen some from time to time sword fight I literally was fighting for danger we started the sword fight and then all of a sudden I was like why is my whole entire leg feel wet and I look down and He was just peeing all over me. So I think that means he won the sword fight easily easily total alpha move total alpha move But yeah, you gotta be you gotta play swords with your kid. Come on. It's fun

It's just like you know, cuz usually I do win but but this one he's changed the game. And credit to me, I didn't pee on him. I was going to say, I feel like you were thinking about revenge. Thought crossed my mind. Thought crossed my mind. But I figured, you know what? Let's just, let's play this the right way. Chalk it up to a loss. Move on. Play another game. All right, Huey, you want to finish this off? Yeah, my Fyre Fest is doing laundry. Oh. Specifically mine. So I have, so the apartment I'm in right now, the type of, I don't have a washer dryer in my place. It's four stories down in a different place. So I have to share that laundry room with three other units. How many machines? It's just one washer, one dryer.

Oh, that's tough. Yeah, and it's in a different hall. It's in a, so it's like a four stories down in different stairs. Is there an elevator? No, no. But it's a different set of staircases. It's like in the back, so it's like darker.

And like there's no windows out there. It's just one light at the bottom, one light at the top. Sounds like a basement yeah yeah this is actually what I'm going into and there's spiders all the way up and down the wall okay it's just it I'm afraid to go down there and so you have no clean laundry so I I'm running low on clean laundry now because it's been two weeks it's you know one and low out of everything so I bought new clothes but just you know essential stuff found some Draft King shirts

You know in the other room of in the gambling cave, so that's gonna help yeah You you can go to my my office pick whatever you want all right. I mean you shouldn't say that out loud No, I just did all right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, we got new stuff I got I had new stuff coming anyway, so it wasn't the end of the world But I think I haven't I have a new place set on the back end of grit week Oh, you're moving. Yeah, got a washer and dryer there and it's my own good So I got a whole plan of doing big laundry for one weekend. It's gonna be awesome Excited for that one. That's like your strategy for no clean laundry seems to just be like only buy new clothes

Yeah, that's a total dudes rock moment Like I there were spiders in the hallway, so I just got new clothes and when he says he bought new clothes I Feel like I bought socks. Okay, but a lot of the clothes The gambling cave yeah A lot of stuff was getting delivered here I got some shampoo. I mean we're rocking and rolling now. Yeah. I mean. He's just going to be a walking billboard for us. I love it. I love it. Okay. Good show, boys. Grit Week starts Sunday night. We're traveling. We'll be visiting a bunch of different camps. We're very excited. We

also will have a meet and greet that we'll let everyone know about when we get it set. So good show. Grit Week. Excited to get back all of us together. Let's do numbers. 20. 8. 42. 12. You want to do 56? I want to do 56. Yeah. 56. Well, no. Now what if it's eight? Three. It's not. It's not 43. 43. Love you guys. I'm talking away, I don't know what to say, I'll say anyway Today is your mother's day, they find you shining away I'll be coming for your love of day, day, come

Needless to say, I thought you said it about me, so I'll let out a wave, so I'll let the wind in my face, okay? Stay up to me, life's for better I'll be gone, through to your door Jesus had to save every single life Oh, this way that world is way You are the friends I've got to remember I'll be shining away, I'll be coming through the way Take on me Take on me

Take on me Take me on Take on me I'll be gone Take on me Take on me Take me on Take on me

I'll be gone Take on me, take me on I'll make you take on me Take on me, take on me Take me on, take on me