Pardon My Take - Matthew Stafford, Steph Curry Saves America, Getting Excited About Preseason Football + Mt Rushmore of Steroid Users (Alleged)

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

Steph Curry saved the USA and we recap an awesome gold medal game and the end of the Olympics (00:00:00-00:23:53). Preseason football has the boys dreaming of franchise quarterbacks and in no way will this turn out poorly (00:23:53-00:35:15). Who’s back of the week and Hank got stuck in an elevator (00:35:15-00:54:39). Rams QB Matthew Stafford joins the show to talk grit, winning the Super Bowl, going back to Detroit for the playoffs last year, Clayton Kershaw, Jersey Jerry DM’ing with his wife and more (00:54:39-01:31:17). We finish with the Mt Rushmore of steroid users (alleged) (01:31:17-02:00:50).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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It's going to be a great time. Bet with Draft Kings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, August 12th. And I know we want to talk about football, but we also have to talk about the Olympics and our team being so awesome, that game being incredible. But for the record, I want to talk about football. I do too. But yeah, let's talk, let's lead it off with the- That was, I was thinking about it. It's like, should we lead it off with the fact that we

both have future hall of fame quarterbacks? No, let's, let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to that. Uh, and I said the two of us because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great. Well, I would say there, I would say all three of us have future hall of fame quarterbacks if you include Joe Milton. That's true, but we should talk about the Olympics and that USA game because it was fucking awesome. Steph Curry is the man. He saved America. That was one of the most fun times I've had watching basketball and Steph Curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games. He was 17 for 26 from three, 60 points in the last two games. And those, it was a three point

game with two 58 left and Steph was like, fuck it. I'm just going to hit every shot and he had four threes. And it was, I, I yelped on that last one. Yeah. People were screaming. Yeah. It was, it was insane. And, uh, if you listen to the French broadcast of it, I don't know if you've had a chance to go back and I always do that in college football season where you hear like the home announcing team like narrate a heartbreaking loss. The French guys were just like, this is impossible. What's happening? They kept calling him the devil curry.

Yes. The devil curry just ended their dreams and there were two shots that he put up that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. At one point he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was like relatively open as far as Katie goes. And he just said, fuck it. I'm going to throw it back to Steph Curry because Steph can't miss right now. Shoots it over two guys, Kevin Durant. And he said it was a bad shot to Kevin Durant and LeBron were wide open for a three. Yeah. And under no circumstance do you ever not give the ball to

Kevin Durant or LeBron at the end of a game? Unless your name is Steph Curry and it somehow it went in but it is just so much fucking fun to get to root for Steph Curry I get it. I understand why Warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years I get it. I understand it Steph Curry if he if I got to root for Steph Curry every day I would develop the same superiority con complex that Hank Lockwood has had I get it. I understand it. Steph Curry, if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had from rooting for Tom Brady. Yeah. It was so good and so incredible. Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that. He

said afterwards, before every shot you take, you think it's going in. This is talking about the last shot. All I saw was the rim. I didn't see who was in front of me. I knew it was kind of late clock situation, but that one impressed myself. Yeah. That's how good he is. Steph Curry is so good that he, he impresses Steph Curry. Yeah, they were really good. And you know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared. Yeah, they cared very deeply. Oh dude. They cared. Like if any one of them told you like, Oh, you know, I, I just want to go over there and have fun. Didn't matter if I played, didn't matter if they got me in the game. Didn't matter if I was in the rotation. They're lying. They wanted to be in there.

They want to be playing. They wanted to do this, I guess, for the country, which is awesome to see because in Olympics past, some of the guys were just like, yeah, whatever. It's basically an exhibition. We're going to crush the world. The days of just showing up and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice and play as a team if we want to win. So to get a goal in that way was, it was awesome. It was awesome. They care, even their family cares. Yeah. To the point of like complaining publicly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They care a lot. And they flew in Draymond Gobert. He tweeted, he's like, what should I say? I'm sitting right behind him. But it was, it also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA because it was KD, it was LeBron, it was Steph. Those were the three guys. Devin

Booker was phenomenal by the way. Like he was the unsung hero. He completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good. And like the three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades, finishing it this way, because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe not going to win another NBA title. But it was, it was just awesome to watch. And they, and LeBron was amazing and KD was amazing. And Steph was just going off. Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was But it was good that Anthony Davis in there to get four blocks the starting center We he had trouble defending against Wimby who everybody else, you know also has that problem defending against Wimby the starting center looks slow

He looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little was our starting center I'm not sure a BAM right BAM. No bam no no it wasn't bam It was Joel and B. Oh, okay, well imbede Yeah, I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers And it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time come on Joe. I well fuck Joe I knew it was not going well for imbede when Max tweeted halfway through the game He's like everyone's shitting on Joel. We wouldn't be here without him. So true. Yeah. He w he was, he wanted

to go back in time. I, sir, be a game. I also love the way that Joel and be received his gold medal when the crowd was just booing the shit out of him because he chose to go with the U S instead of France. And he was just like, yeah, give it to me. I mean, he's, he's a Philly guy. Yeah. You think that bothers him? France cannot boo out boo Joel and beat Yeah, he had a quote going into it. He was like, yeah, France is probably gonna boo me and I'm just gonna tell him to suck it There's there's one guy who can't like you can't boo you can't boo Joel and beat out of the building he plays in Philadelphia He also Watching the like the clips of everyone postgame and then the next day, just how hungover, uh,

they all were actually, we have someone who basically won the U S gold right here. Henry Lockwood looked like he parted with them, but Joel Embiid doesn't drink. So he was like, like just side eyeing everyone walking to, I think they were getting to the airport and it was just like everyone had glasses on, looked like shit and Joel was walking to, I think they were getting to the airport. Yeah. And it was just like, everyone had glasses on, looked like shit. And Joel was just like, I'm ready to go. Let's get on the flight. Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem.

Yeah. It was... Get out of his own head. It was awesome. So, and now there was two guys who maybe didn't play a lot, Tyrese Halberton, who handled it in a very funny way, saying when you get an A and you did none of the work, that's kind of the way you have to handle it because it's still, you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team.

And you did contribute in the fact that, you know, there were scrimmages and all the weeks leading up to it. You got to take pride in that shit. Like you got to take pride in it. No matter what level basketball player you're at, if you help the team, that's first and foremost, right? And then Hank, how'd we feel? I mean, Jason Tatum did get into the final, felt like he got bullied, bullied minutes, bullied. He got bullied. He got bullied minutes. Kurt Kerr got bullied into putting them in the game. Interesting. Would you not agree? I mean, his explanation

for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem. Well there's eight less minutes. Right. But you could still. That's our talking metric system. The math. That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in an NBA game. Listen the resume. You don't know one really knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics. At the end of the day when you look back at his career he's going to have two gold medals at least. Yeah. Yeah. He said he would play in the 20s. I mean, I do feel bad for Jason Tatum because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum. He did not say one word. No, his mom did. Fans did. He didn't like that. That's one of those situations where it gets put on him that he's upset and he probably

was upset because everyone wants to play, but he wasn't wasn't upset to he wasn't being a malcontent He wasn't saying anything other people were saying things and then it gets attributed to him, right? Which is not fit But if you watch the games the lineup that did not have Jason Tatum and it was vastly superior Yeah, we were dominating with that lineup. They were really barely played our closing lineup was very good Yeah, Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end and it was just fun It was fun to watch the Steph Curry's the fucking man and Abu dunked on LeBron. That was great yeah, boo, dude, he might have dunked his way back in the league and Skip obviously went straight to Twitter and was like well Steph Curry won the MVP, right?

He said LeBron did win the MVP And yes, it was like this is an indictment on LeBron's legacy Just perfect spin zone. That he won a fake MVP at the Olympics where they won gold? Yeah, and LeBron was, I mean, he got a triple double against Serbia, and he was good in every game. Steph basically locked in for the last two games. He closed it out at the end of the last two games,

and we wouldn't have had that comeback against Serbia without him. And we probably wouldn't have beaten France without him just catching fire at the very end. But if you look at what the numbers were, LeBron, he did not lead the team in points per game. Steph did, but it was like barely. It was like he led the team in rebounds, rebounds and assists and almost led the team in points. But like you could give it to any one of those guys, but I love the fact that skip, he's going to find his angle. Yeah. Skip fails by the way, doesn't have a show to do his LeBron thing on. He's just doing this for the love of the game. Yeah. And it would have been if Steph had gotten the MVP, it would have been the same

video being like LeBron didn't get the MVP and this was his team, his Olympics. Also shout out Serbia, probably the coolest dudes in the world. They won the bronze medal game, went straight to the bar, and then came back for the medal ceremony and they were shithoused. I love it. Like, Jokic looked like he was going to puke at one point because guys were like, kinda like grabbing him. And then also there's a club, Jokic is already at the racetrack.

Yeah, of course. So, Jokic probably spent his entire Olympics watching dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much. That looked like they did it perfectly. I would much rather, this is why the debate, like would you rather win bronze or silver?

I'd rather win bronze because then you don't have to live like the rest of your life saying I was so close. I would like to win bronze or silver? I'd rather win bronze because then you don't have to live like the rest of your life saying I was so close. I would like to win bronze if I lost to the gold medal winner. Yeah, but still like they had the best time yesterday. France didn't. France looked, you know, in front of the home crowd. They lose and then all the Serbians show up drunk as fuck.

There's also the stat continues that there's only three countries that have won a gold medal outside of US in men's basketball and two of those three countries do not exist. So it was kind of a fun stat. What countries were they? Argentina? Was that the one that does exist? Argentina does exist. Yeah.

And then Soviet Union, Yugoslavia. Okay. Yeah. If Yugoslavia had stayed a country, they'd be a problem. They'd be a real problem. Because they have they should have Jokic and Luca. They should be allowed to compete. It would be fun. Yeah, but those two so so the only country that still exists that has won a gold other than us is Argentina and Soviet Union would have KP. Yeah, true. Yeah, yeah, there was no Russian these Olympics, right? For the most part,

I guess not. Yeah. And we want this asterix. We won the gold or we won the Olympics. We did. Yeah. Congratulations. We did it. We did it. We tied with, uh, China for most goals and then the tiebreaker, which I think is made up by us is it silvers is silvers and bronzes. Oh, we won together. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We did it guys. Also we were very close to not winning the total golds. And I just wanted to shout out. I don't know who this person is.

Iman Kielif. That person stopped China from getting one extra goal. Because if you might give now, what what division were they competing? This was women's boxing women's by okay. Yeah, that's her. Yeah. So she stopped. stopped she she beat a Chinese woman in the welterweight championship. She's my favorite woman in the world That's a funny wrinkle. Let's go USA USA All of the United States was for whoever that boxer that you said yes, so that's all getting behind It's it's really good that we that we won. Yeah the medal count. I love that I love just being able to say like fuck you to the rest of the world. We got it. I don't care. Well, what about the horses? Do we know where the horses were from? No, I don't know. I don't know if you have to bring in the horses

from the same place. Because I feel like the horses should get the medals. The riders should not get the medals. I'd agree. Equestria events. Yeah, we did have an awesome, I forget her name. Shit. What's her name? The female wrestler that suplex the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped on her head, basically broke her neck in the files. They had to stop her. US. Yeah. It was an awesome move. I forget who it was. Hell yeah. Shout out to her because she's, she's a fucking Haas. Also, if we're going to try to figure out how to, to make sure that we win the golds outright in LA. Well, first of all, I didn't even realize that you get to the host country gets to add a sport. Yep. That's how breakdancing came in. Shout out to Reagan. Yeah. Reagan,

the goat took the world by storm. We watched some of the breaking on Friday here in the office. I was trying to live bet on it. I had no idea how the point system worked, but Reagan was, she's, she's a hero. She's, she's amazing. She was doing the kangaroo hop. She was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show. Yeah. she's the rest of the breakdancers have to be very upset at her They have as I watched some of the others and they were incredible Yeah, like spinning on their heads for minutes at a time and then ray gun was just doing a lane, you know Venice dance. She's a she's a professor and one of the things that she teaches is breakdancing. I would drop her class Yes, I were in it

But she basically found a way to get a free trip to France and get a team uniform. Yeah, credit to her. And she was wearing an Australian cricket uniform. She was wearing the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat. It was awesome. I was struggling to figure out what

the rules were with breaking. I didn't know if there was a TKO. If you serve somebody so hard, they just stop the fight. That's too much. That's too much. Someone's going to get hurt. Like battle rap, battle rap should be in the L L being an Olympian would be sick. I think it might be more of a sport than, than some of the sports that we saw. Yeah. Definitely more of a sport than curling.

I think we're a re-adding football. Is that what it is? Be like football, baseball. Oh, is baseball our sport? Baseball should be back anyways. We might not win that. We might not win that. We, we should win football, baseball, baseball or sport. Baseball should be back anyways. We might not win that. We might not win that. We, we should win football, but oh, we definitely remember our team stinks. No, but we were going to have NFL players. Joe burrow. Yeah. He said he wants to do it. Yeah. The, um, I was looking at it. If we want to figure out a way to win it outright, uh, China. Now I'm not saying that they, you know, it's a Mickey Mouse gold half of a title, whatever you want to call it. They won five ping pong events and eight diving events. Seems a little...

How are there five ping pong events? I have no idea, but they won them all. Because there should be, at the max there should be four, right? I think there's... Men's, women's, men's, doubles, women's doubles. Mixed. Mixed doubles. Mixed doubles. They swept it. They swept the board.

I don't like that. I didn't know there was eight diving's That's too many diving swept the board on that. There's yeah, there's too many of the niche ones There should be maximum for medals in in table tennis Yeah, now maybe we got to sweeten the pot a little bit because we're giving each gold medalist $37,000 that's what the US gives and a job at Home. Other countries, no, we don't even do that anymore. Sometimes they get their picture on a Wheaties box. Congratulations, here's 37 grand and your picture on the worst cereal in the world. Enjoy.

Hong Kong and Singapore, they do the highest payouts. Hong Kong gives $768,000 to their winner. Singapore gives $745,000 to their winner. Singapore gives $745,000. And then the Philippines gives a house, a lot, a two-bedroom condominium, $18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies, and free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken. They should just do the Armageddon. If you win a gold medal for chains, including Korean fried chicken. There's a,

they should just do the armageddon. If you win a gold medal for us, you never pay taxes. Don't pay taxes. And also you get, you get to commit one felony. Sure. Get out of jail for paying taxes, not paying taxes, but also you can transfer that up to manslaughter. Yeah. I mean, I, Caitlyn Jenner would having probably still be walking amongst us. Having everyone be like, Hey, I don't have to pay taxes again. That would be the greatest. She is still walking. Well, at least she's not driving. Driving. Yeah. Driving is her issue. Indonesia in 2021 gave their gold medalist five cows each and a

meatball restaurant. Oh, max. Wow. Yeah. Max. You need to get a passport. Yep. We got to step our shit up.. Yeah. Max, you need to get a passport. Yep. We gotta step our shit up. And in South Korea, you get pensions. So you get like the lump sum, and then you get money every single year for the rest of your life. Yeah.

Instead we have Noah Lyles who's winning. He might be hater of the year. He might have to do that as a takey, hater of the year because he was the one who, before the Olympics, said, you don't win a world championship if you win the NBA championship. Yep. That's not the world. There was like that's kind of weird. Whatever. Hank, did you write that down? Takey's takey's guy write it down. What was it? I hate her the year. Who? No allows. Okay. You got it.

Yeah. You did say that you did say this year you gonna be on top of it maxity is gonna be on top of it Did I know I absolutely not me no no no sir. Are you giving away? I can be on top of it I can take I can take this responsibility take the lead man already did all right I could be on me this I told max to write it down and then max for some reason turned his mic on to tell Hank But wait me and him are in charge. Hey, listen, it hurt right now. I support max. No, that's all me. That's all me Will you will you be the backup? Yeah, okay. Well, he'll be the third. I should name some acts to write that down Yeah, yeah, right that nice. Yeah, I'll write that down. I'll write that down

I feel like Hank could show some strong competition hater of the year. So yeah, for sure. It's an award that I guarantee you he'll he'll be nominated. Yeah. But no, Lyle's came out that he was upset because Adidas when he was negotiating with Adidas for his new contract, they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah. And he was like, this guy hasn't even been to an NBA finals. So I actually, I understand Noah Lyles is basically like, I need to get my name out there. So be hater of the year and people will talk about me. Um, I think he knows what he's doing and I, I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb that he thinks that like running track every four years is important is playing in the NBA.

He does. He does. Okay. So maybe this is, this is what I love about Noah Lyles. I think it all comes naturally to him. Okay. He definitely got cut playing basketball, right? Like he's got some very deep seated anger for any ball sport. Yeah. And he's like, why, why is track not the number one sport in America? He was like a point guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever. And every time he was on a fast break, he dribbled off his foot. Yeah. No Liles, a little tip for you. Why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an NFL team that would get you some nice publicity. People would talk about it. People be like, wow, could you imagine no Liles running down, running, running a go route now? You probably can't

catch because you're this upset about, uh, Anthony Edwards, who's one of the best NBA players, but we'll deal with that later. Yeah, he would be sick on the Chiefs. Flag football. Flag football. He probably, there's no, no lie, it was definitely if you threw him a ball, he would not be able to catch it.

No. That's the vibe I'm getting from him, his anger towards the NBA. I felt like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah, yeah. And he also overcame COVID to get the hater going. I like that. It was just better. And then he was just like, now I got my hater back. I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Swimming. Yeah. Male swimming in America. Oh yeah. The French guy

kicked our ass. French guy kicked her ass. Katie Ledecky, shout out to her. I think she's like tied for the lead in gold medals. Shout out to all our women. Yeah. I think theyedecky, shout out to her. I think she's like tied for the lead in gold medals. Shout out all our women. Yeah. I think they dominated. They dominated. Our men stink at swimming. What happened? What happened to American men?

Is it, fellas, is it gay to swim? Belps might need to make a comeback. I actually think he could. I think he'd probably do better than whatever these jackasses were. Yeah. But we only got one gold medal in male swimming. I don't know. I don't know what the problem is.

Do we like, I know Huey, you can definitely swim, right? Probably. No, probably. Wasn't Caleb Dressel, the big story was that he was watching House of Dragon too late one night. Yeah. So maybe we just got to take away TVs. Yeah.

If we put our best players or best athletes into swimming, we would dominate and we don't. We don't. Listen, Olympics were fun. Can't say I watched a ton of it, but I watched it here and there. Yeah, it was good. It was good to have on in these desperate weeks that we just need to get through training camp.

And the basketball was awesome. Basketball, the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it, that was a dramatic game. And I'm happy we won. I would like to see an Olympics where they just select the athletes at random. Like anybody from the United States could get put on any team. And we have to compete just average people from around the world competing against other

average people in random sports that they've never practiced. Well, they should have one average person in every single event just so that we have a barometer. To show how hard it is. Well, they should have one average person in every single event just so that we have a Barometer to show like if you're just like hey, here's the hundred meter dash have just a random like 35 year old dude Running it. Yeah, we'd be like, oh, that's me. Yeah, I suck. I lost by seven seconds I think one of the funniest events for that would be the high jump where you have to try to jump over it backwards Yeah, I think most people if you tried to do that motion You would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat where you have to try to jump over it backwards. Yeah. Because I think most people, if you tried to do that motion,

you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat. Yeah, pole vault. You just go straight sideways. I mean, all these, yeah, they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events just so that we can see it because it would, we would quickly realize how much better they are. Not that we don't, but there's always a little bit of you where it's like, that doesn't seem that hard.

There should also- They all are very hard. There should be eating in the Olympics, too Yeah, Joey chestnut Joey always that in for that for 2028 down with a rock hot dog eating that would have rocked You want to talk about football? Yeah, that was a fun weekend of football. It was a great week. It's back. It's preseason. I Lasted as long as I had lasted longer than I ever could ever. Oh, I didn't even try. Yeah, I tried. Hour and a half. I lasted. I didn't try. I saw all the people are impressed. Yeah. So big cat, congratulations. Congratulations to you as well. How many, uh, how many super bowls you think you're going to get? Listen, I don't want to talk about super bowls. I just want

to talk about, uh, the, the, the realization that I had. And this is going to get clipped and people are going to say I'm stupid and I'm doing it all over again. Watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world forever thinking that Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields are the guys because it looks so different. Yeah. And I know it's preseason. I know it was only a few plays, but it just looks different. Like he's, he's, he's confident poised, like reading the defense. It just looks different. I felt like such an idiot. And yeah, I lasted an hour and a half. And I told the whole world to suck my dick from the back. Yeah. As you should, because my own experience watching Jayden on, on Saturday, that one throw he had also and then big guy when I found out that he

Audibled into that play sure. Oh my god. I covered my entire basement Yeah, I got stalactites dripping from the ceiling now gross. I've never I don't want to say never he reminds me of Rg3 in the RG 3 good times It's been 30 years since I've had a quarterback that for longer than like 10 weeks, I could really root for and really think this is the guy and know this is the guy. But because he's so fun. I know, I agree. I agree. All is so good. He's so fast. I agree. Just, and he looks good in the uniform. It's awesome. I mean, you said RG three, I, the, the screen dump off that Caleb Williams made when the guy had his hand in his face and

it was like a broken play. Yeah. That looked like Patrick Marlowe's. Yeah. I don't know. But I'm not, these are just, we should have prefaced this segment with this is a safe space. We're just talking to guys, having fun talking.

None of this is, we're not putting this on anyone. This is not what we're saying is going to happen. We're just saying what we having fun talking. None of this is we're not putting this on anyone. This is not what we're saying is going to happen. We're just saying what we saw. Yeah. And what a preseason game. What I saw sickos what I saw in preseason week one preseason week one week one. It was week two for the Bears. But Caleb Williams didn't play week one. The excitement of having a team that that has a quarterback. It's like we're fans of different sport this year. It's like we're fans of different sport this year. It's like Sundays are going to be different. Deep Sundays are different this year.

Like being like third and long, we could maybe still get this. Yeah. Hank, did you feel the same way about Joe Milton? Yeah, I actually, I made a list. I made a ranking. Oh, should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure. Number one, I had Joe Milton.

Yep. Cause Joe Milton is fucking awesome. Yeah. He had the boys fired up. Yeah. Boys on the side line. I also wouldn't have been watching those on while we were doing coach Doug. So I pretty much watched the whole game and you could tell, you know, coming off the sidelines, like the team, team was rallying. Already a QB controversy? The team was rallying behind him. We'll see. I think so. And we are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. Would this be, this would be so mean though, if Joe Milton did to Bailey's

happy with Bailey's happy did to, to Mack Jones. Yeah, they're going to have a decision to make. Yeah. Four QBs, three spots. Yeah. This segment is also Milton tough. We're pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah. No, that guy, how did that guy last until the six round? That guy should have been top 10 Patriots get a six round steal Yeah, repeats itself. Yeah number two. I had a tie between Caleb and Jayden. That's fair I wanted to be fair and Joe Milton obviously number one Caleb Jayden number two

JJ Arrington number three JJ JJ. No, sorry. Sorry JJ McCarthy McCarthy. Yeah Viking number number three. Second defense. Second defense. Where did Arrington come from? I don't know, there's a player named JJ Arrington. Levar Arrington. Number four, Bo Nix. Bo Nix looked good.

This might be the season. Bo Nix. Number, Bo Nix. He put it all together. I feel like he's. JJ Arrington was a running back for Cal. Yeah. Bo Nix, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year.

I think he's gonna be good. Yeah. Five,icks, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year. I think he's going to be good. Five, Spencer Ratwer. Spencer looked good. He plays for? He plays for an NFL team. But I looked up his stats and they were good. Number six, Michael Penickx. And then number seven, I had Drake May.

It's a pretty good class. And Stetson Bennett. Technically a rookie, kind of. Kind of. Yeah, because he sat out. He bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception Game winning drive. Yeah. Yeah, Anthony Richardson also kind of a rookie kind of yeah. Yeah It was fun watching football. I'm very excited. I'm gonna let myself I Really did I tried so hard PFT?

I was like, I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna do what I always do and just get crazy And it was like I was basically the meme the kid in class like holding everything in I was just for an hour I was watching the Bears and I was like, I'm not gonna get crazy and tweet crazy shit like this has got to be different I got to act differently and then I just lost it and just busted everywhere. He... he looked really good. He looked very good. So did Jaden. I'll tell you what, if I was gonna be the worst clip ever. I don't care.

I'm ready, make no mistake, I'm ready to be heard again. I am. I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while. Markel Fultz was so good in Summer League. Why do you have to make this about Philadelphia? Good point. What the fuck? That's a good point. I'm just saying. What the what the fuck's a good point just saying fuck

That's a fair point max. I'm not I want to say I am NOT ready to get hurt again Oh, I am I am NOT I've been hurt too many times too recently if we played that I am NOT ready to first preseason yes, I'm not ready to get hurt again But I just told you Hank I watch never thought much once I just and I I knew Mitch wasn't I'm not ready to get hurt again. I'm not I'm not mentally physically in A space where I could take the hurt again It will kill me it will kill me this would be the last hurt of my life max

If you had to pick if you had to rank between just the three Of us in this room, which quarterback would you want first Joe Milton? Good answer He's got a rocket arm stud through an orange 106 yards. Yeah, I Was thinking about it? I Think I would want the Patriots to be to be the best why? Because I can all I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be the best. Why? Yeah. Because I can all I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be around. You know it's the devil. I know. I don't know how I that

makes sense. Yeah. Planet would we be worse. No that's a fair. Yeah. We can't be worse than this guy. That's not true. He's drunk during a show right now because that's also not. But I already hate Hank. I don't want to. I don't want to hate. I don't want to hate you guys. Yeah. You pass the breathalyzer right now. Yeah, we should get a breathalyzer. I doubt it. Uh, I I actually Understand what you're saying max because I don't know what I'm capable of like I it's scary to think of what I could be capable of if kill Williams was like incredible, I might be a monster.

Yeah. I mean, it would be cool. Like if Chicago was buzzing for the Bears, that would be fun. Yeah. We would need the hopes to get up. I want both you guys to make the playoffs. You're always doing it that way. Good. Thank you, Hank. You watch us to make the playoffs. Thank you, Hank. It was just preseason week one. It was. And we might be a year out But Jaden yeah CJ Strauss was really good in preseason last year I think more than anything it's just the ups and downs. I have to figure out how to deal with better It's the ups and downs. Well, we've we haven't been here before I'm like a drive-by-drive guy and I need both got how to be very recently to figure out like a month

You had RG 3 very recently that was 12 years ago It's Sam Howell and it last is like I remember how he did say was a guy I was talking soupy after two weeks last year. Yes That was 12 years ago Hank and we had like maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy Sam how was so good against Eagles in that one game. He was it gets had twice since the podcast has existed That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again It's becoming like that. We haven't been here before. Yes, you have. No, I haven't. Not since RG three second pick overall sickos. Although I deep down, I feel like Packers fans might actually think they're a little worried. Although Jordan love

looks good, but I think they're a little worried. The RG3 Croissant picture was so funny. Yeah. Very, very funny. He was always horny. He was deep-throating that day. Yeah. Deep-throating. Greta was not.

Yeah. RG3, he had that past the gag reflex. She was not in on the same joke that he was doing. I don't think it was a joke. Yeah, I don't think so either. He just loves Croissant. He loves Croissant. Uh-huh.

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week by who's back the week is Jamis Winston. Yeah. We're going to do a new place. Same face as new places. I think we'll do that Wednesday now soon. But Jamis Jamis on the Browns is a match made in heaven. Uh, he had a very funny pregame speech. Go ahead and the boys fired up. Tell us what he said in the pregame. Reenact the pregame speech. Get us fired up. What do you mean? Come on, do it. Do it. Fire it up. Pretend that you're where my dogs at. Okay. That was good. And yeah, we're about to do a podcast. He said like, uh, I'm a spelled DAW GS and then we'll go. Okay. So you do it, but do it for us for the podcast give me a D D Give me a a give me a W W

Give me G G. Give me an S S where my dogs at right here James did it better. Yeah, I wasn't as fired up as the Browns were If you were to Sean Watson, you saw that you'd be a little bit nervous, right? Of course. James is the best. He's got a captive audience. Everyone hangs on every word that he says. At bare minimum, if Deshaun Watson has an MVP type year, even with an MVP type year, the rest of the locker room likes James more. Yeah. No matter what, you have a backup

quarterback that is liked more. The whole building likes James. Like Jamis more. Correct. Which, and he doesn't have all that baggage that Tashawn has. Correct. The history. Right. Facts. Good. Good. Thank you. Was that the last tweet you saw? No. No. That's a good who's back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It's back. He is. I thought your who's back was gonna be elevators No, no elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator. Oh tell I We're just going down. We had too many people in the elevator was max in it. Max was not in I was not Bullshit that was a bullshit question. I was not in the elevator. I just asked I got down safely I got down safely. So you how many people did you get in the elevator?

It was probably like 15. I think it's like a 2000 Weight limit we had a couple and no max couple big boys. Oh couple football players former football players quigs Whoa, whoa? Whoa? Quigs allowed to get fucking shots Hank you were in there, too I was in there and I was like was like oh yeah, we're good Let's just squeeze on and then we got to the first floor, and then you just felt it go even lower

Wait was it got down to the first floor got down to the floor and then it dropped oh Oh, you sank too low they had to open the door took like 10 15 minutes, and then we had to basically climb out Onto the first yeah, was that thrice and crop elevator? I know it wasn't an Otis I don't know what I notice would never was. Otis would never malfunction like that. So Hank, answer me this. Had you been drinking alcohol before this? Yes. Okay, so I would imagine if you're stuck in an elevator

with 15 people that had been drinking. Not Max. Not Max. Somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right? No, it wasn't. It hadn't got to that point. Everyone was pretty chill. No one was freaking out. You You know we were squeezing pretty tight

It was a nightmare. It was good. It was good vibes I think it if it went another like 10 minutes, then you know some people might have been like Cholestrophobic or you know had to pee, but it wasn't too too bad I'm so mad that Max wasn't on that elevator. Did you get some tunes going I was playing some music Yeah, what's good elevator music Billy strings? Yeah, you're obsessed ability. Well that was just what was on my Spotify being played. So I just you know press play We also were playing it. We're playing a great playlist V I think you you asked for it. I just looked up on Spotify. The place is called just Vietnam War music

Yeah, yeah, I was watching the planes at Hank's place and they brought the helicopters out. I was like we got a blast fortunate son Yeah, it's a must but it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day nice You've got a little mini Vietnam going on in your brain right now. That's all it's a it's a constant Vietnam in my brain Try to avoid landmines no one's winning Yeah, a lot of resources. No one's winning. All right. That elevator is being I've been stuck in one elevator in my life. It was brutal. It's just like that first five minutes.

Like, are we getting out? Are we never getting out? And then you realize you're probably going to be fine. It's called the fire department. No, it wasn't. I wasn't that worried about it until once we got out, I was like, oh, that was kind of bad. You had to step, so you would, what if you got caught when you were stepping up? Or yeah, if you were stepping up and the thing came down.

Yeah. That would've been bad. Yeah, we've been real bad. We've been ashamed. Real bad. Okay, PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. They just redid Lucas Oil Stadium.

They did some renovations to it, some major renovations, to the point where I don't think they could open up the roof. They opened up the window and they were trying to open the roof up, but they couldn't. I guess they've taken some things down from the stadium and the stadium roof is not used to being open in this new configuration. One of the things they took down was sent to our office.

It's a piece of NFL history to say lightly. Jim Ursay specially packaged up and sent over, first of all, a very nice letter for myself and Big Cat. Normal signature. Totally cool signature. Referred to as Mr. Cat and Mr. Commenter. I like that touch. And he added in a little line about

sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're Pissing in the wind. Yep. So we opened up the package and what's inside? But the 2014 AFC finalist banner, the one that was hanging up in Lucas Oil Stadium. So we have that here at Barstool HQ. The deflate gate game. It's the deflate gate game that Hank actually is responsible for that banner. Yes. And arrested because of that banner. Yeah. That you can't tell the story of the NFL without the 2014 Colts AFC finalist banner.

We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years. I think memes has made like 70 photo shops of it. And now it's ours and we got to figure out a place to hang it up. We own it. We own it. But thank you to Mr. Earth. Incredible goals. Never in a million years. I knew that there was a package coming from them.

Never in a million years that I think it was going to be that banner. No. So we tried to find a place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang it up, but we have to figure out a good place for it. Yeah, we do. It's an incredible gift. It is a piece of NFL history. Thank you to Mr. Irsay. Also very funny way to like rid yourself of that. Yeah. Because like putting it back up, you really can't do. It's been mocked a lot. But to send it to us, it's like, we have it now.

Yeah. TJ had a very good suggestion, which was to get Christian Juschek to make jackets out of it. I want to upholster, re-upholster. I like that idea. All of Vanny Woodhead. Just turn it into the banner on the inside? The entire inside of Vanny Woodhead is just the banner.

What if we just got in touch with Darren Revelle and Clit and had him cut it up and then make trading cards with actual pieces of the banner on it? We also had, speaking of the Colts, my new favorite NFL fan. I didn't know this guy. Apparently he's like, I don't know, Colts fans know who he is. Flow with Seth. Yeah. Makes a music video before every game, including

preseason games. I'm going to play you flow with Seth. It's only 30 seconds. His, his preseason music video for, uh, the Broncos versus the Colts preseason week one. Shout out this guy. We need to maybe get him to do a custom song for us. This is for preseason. The name really does it for me. The name does it for me. That was horrible. What are you talking about? That was awesome.

That's a football fan, Hank. That's a football guy through and through. He makes a custom song for every game I like to deliver. Let's show him with the real horses. Yeah The name was everything they did today went like you're kind of listening to it like I don't know I don't know then the name hits you like this guy rock I think Hank had already written him off after the opening line. I was sad Hank. Yeah, take it back Show a little slow as Seth is the man

Flow Seth is the man say it No, okay with Seth is the man flow Seth is the man say it no okay he can do better he can do better I don't know you can do better it was week one it's preseason for flow with Seth too that's facts get used to it I was thinking if they tried to auction off that banner how much it would go for and then I realized we'd probably the only ones that would bid on yeah we were just we'd drive drive Yeah, we dropped the price up. Yeah. Yeah, awesome gift. Awesome gift. Did you guys like flow Seth? Love them. Okay, good voice of an angel. Yep Yeah, we got a I think the banner I think we put it behind the video board. Yeah, it needs to be somewhere prominent

I was thinking too, but but that's pretty prominent. Yeah, you walk in and you see it I just love it. I look at it and I smile. Yeah, it does need to be hung up I want to see it all the time. It's probably the nicest gift. I've ever gotten in my entire life. Yeah Yeah, probably. Yeah, think about it. Yeah, like what could top that? Oh, they're trying to figure out if they can put it up We're trying to think of if we can make it our entire booth. It's way too big No, but they could do it like all the way around and like even on top Maybe yeah, like it's noble I could like everyone would do that in their dorm room trying to be cool put the flag little drape down. Yes

Like get the vibes right if we I think I'm jealous it no No, I want to find a good play I'm just telling you because I got to lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled it's way too big for that room but what if we what if we wrapped it where it like was on every single yeah I'm thinking like completely all the way around I still think it'd be too no even in front of the glass we should give it a try we should give it a try. We should give it a try around the room. Uh, okay. My who's back the week is a PGA tour because, uh, Graham McDowell on the live got, uh, one game, one week suspension, uh, for using Nate nasal decongestants. That's what

he said. Yeah. He said that it was Vicks. Yeah, it was Vicks, uh, banned substance. Either way I was shocked to know this count for for announcers to cuz Jake might be yeah trouble big time Yeah, but I was shocked to know that Liv had a steroid policy. I thought that was the entire point It was like hey Dustin Johnson come play on our tour, right? You're good. So the PGA tour is back Yeah, like this is bad for the live you can you have to you you you have no rules you play golf with shorts I'm pretty sure that they could say they could sweep this under the rug. If you, who is it? Graham McDowell?

Graham McDowell. Yeah, if it was somebody not named Graham McDowell, that made the money. The next event he'll be at is the live Chicago event. Maybe we should go out with the big asterisks poster board. I'm going to use so much nasal spray before that. Graham, I can't believe you took away the game we love. Wait, is that the, that's the next event? That's the next, well, he that that's the next event? That's the next well

He's suspended from the next event. Okay, then the next event he can play in is the live Chicago event, but yeah When they said golf ball outer, I didn't think it was gonna have you know, Vicks vapor rub was gonna be included Yeah, just fucked up. Yeah, they should you should if you're the live tour make everything legal Yeah, have it be steroids, but golf. Right. Tackling. Yes. And a football. And a football. And then, uh, and then your championship game is in February.

Yep. Yeah. Then you redo the T-shot at the beginning. I mean, they make it very confusing where nobody knows what's going on. They definitely will try to create a football league. I'm in. Saudis.

More football. Yeah. All right, Huey, your Who's Back of the Week. My Who's Back, the good old quarterback controversy. It's the perfect time of year for that. I think right now in New England and Denver, maybe a little talk about it happening in Tennessee maybe. Oh.

Just a good old, it's always the mid-tier teams. It's never the top tier Super Bowl winning, it's never, it's never, you know, the top tier Superbowl winning potential teams who are in quarterback controversies, but the quarterback who could be a controversy could come out, you know, like a Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn situation. There could be a guy who comes out of this. So it doesn't mean that, you know, they're going to be a guy this year, but this could be a future thing, especially for the, a Patriots or a Denver. This is the season. This is the time when we all.

And I feel like in Denver, at least Sean Payton has said so many nice things about Bo Nicks. You know how coaches don't really give a shit what you do in the preseason? Sean Payton probably felt like he had to let Bo Nicks have a great performance. So you're probably scheme some shit up for him. So he didn't look like an idiot. That's a reputation performance. So you're probably scheme some shit up for that. So he didn't look like an idiot. That's a reputation pick. Yes. His reputation is on the line. Um, I think the same with pedics. Although Kirk is going to be the starter. But yeah, it is fun having this time of year. Well, it's fun being on the other side. Yeah, there's I don't have a quarterback controversy here. It's fucking as much as I love Tyson Bajan. There is no God. Yeah, there's I literally have no other good quarterbacks Yeah, there was the year that the Bears brought in we brought in Foles and Andy Dalton that was sad That was the saddest quarterback on its Trubisky by the way, we should have said Foles happy retirement Yeah, yeah, we didn't mention on Friday Hank good riddance. Oh memory

None Friday Hank good riddance holes memory none you can't think of one no come on you know game so game was cool you remember we threw that I don't know if he was a quarterback wait you he didn't throw it fuck him didn't he didn't he at one point catch a ball in the Super Bowl was in the same game that Tom Brady didn't catch a ball where he dropped it

that seems like a very special play. It does seem special. Hmm. Max? Yeah, no, I like that play. Max, where does Nick Foles rank for you all-time Eagles? Top five. Top five?

Top five, yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense. For sure, without a doubt. He didn't play long enough to be number one. More than hurts? Yeah. He won a Super Bowl. He did?

Yes. Right now, Foles is above Foles. What a career for Nick Foles. Yeah, Nick Foles, not a Hall of Famer, but he did have that one season where he, like, a magical season. We should do a Mount Rushmore of guys that had like. We had two magical seasons

Yeah, he had the one season that people 22 and 2 was it 22 touchdowns to two interceptions. It was crazy Yeah, but he couldn't throw a pick that year. Yeah, but no one thought yeah, yeah, and then we traded for Sam Bradford Yeah, but he he had let's see Nick Foles Super Bowl and oh, this is he's got 87 million In the bank cash pretty good the snow game also this is very that's on me very depressing because I just pulled up his earnings I was at that game he his birthday is January 20th 1989 oh no I thought that was what my if you listen back when I said oh that was because I saw a 1989 I was like he just retired and he's four years younger than us if you had asked me I would have said 1983

He seemed so old right damn it falls as old as fuck. Oh Actually, I was thinking about this side tangent If LeBron wanted to how long long do you think he could play? So he's, he's embracing the gray thing. I don't know if it's a Paris deal where he's like, I'm going to let my beard grow out and have it be gray. So everyone sees how gray I am.

And yeah, old, old King still reigns that type of thing. Um, but based on the way that he played, uh, if he, if his, if his steroid guy is still around, I think, I think it's a steroid Mount Rushmore around I think I will get to the steroid Mount Rushmore I think he could play another Five years I but but hold on I should I ask that incorrectly if he embraced being like I'm not gonna be LeBron James But I'm gonna play till I'm like not good enough to play in the NBA I think it'd be ten years maybe Maybe like if he, if he in five years from now said, I'm cool coming up, like being a bench guy coming off the bench for

like five minutes a game, he, he will be better in at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of play. I think at least five more years, right? At least like he is very interesting. I don't think that I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out. He will, he's not going to want to go out being on the bench, but he's the first like he it's very interesting. I don't think that I I know that that's not how he's gonna want to go out He's not gonna want to go out being on the bench, but he's the first time where it's like like what um What's his name has him did? No, he says yeah, you know, yeah you don't has him But like he wasn't actually contributing at the end, but like LeBron It's crazy to think but I actually would say that LeBron if he wanted to play basketball at 50 years old, could probably make an NBA roster.

You probably could. Yeah. I don't think that's that far off because right now he's still top five in the world. Easily. Top 10. I think he's probably top five in the world. In the world. Yeah. Top 10. In the US. Top 10. But still, I feel like he could. But Tatum's better. What? Is he? If they were on the same team, who do you think would get the minutes? We Hank, we didn't mean to get back to this point. It just

happened. Well, we're talking about LeBron is the magic of the show. If you I was bringing up an actual hypothetical, we just ended up back in this. If you were to take the five best players in the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum Tatum? But if you're trying to win, so would he stop? Yeah, he'd be in the closing lineup he should be yeah be my closing lineup okay uh yeah i think at least five more years yeah i just i kind of want him here LeBron you can save your legacy for me personally which i know you care so

deeply about if you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play when you're 55 Jordan never won sixth man of the year right he like He like he could be I don't know be cool Be cool to see he wouldn't do it, but it would be cool to see you get an entire season of load management, right? Just put him in I'm gonna go hard as you can for five minutes. Yeah. Yeah Okay, let's get to our incredible interview with Matthew Stafford and then after that we will do our Mount Rushmore, hopefully not as contentious as yellow. Actually, I hope it is. But PFT, you got a couple of ads before we get to Matthew Stafford. Yeah, Matthew Stafford is going to be brought to you by our great friends over at Coors

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Yeah. So we start every grit week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit? Oh man, that's the good stuff. That's just being able to fight through whatever is ailing you, whether it's a situation or how you're feeling, but being able to push through anything to get whatever the goal is accomplished, right? Whether that's winning a football game, having a good play, you know, rallying for the next night out, whatever it is, you got to have a little grit.

Separating your shoulder. Yeah. Coming down the field. That clip, you are a gritty quarterback. You've gone through a time you got hit a million times. You're tough as hell. Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, hey, come out. And you're like, no, I'm not fucking coming out.

Do you watch that and be like, man, I am tough. No, I usually, uh, I think about that clip or I see that clip and I just start wincing again. But, uh, no, it's, uh, that's a cool thing that I got. I lucky, luckily to, uh, have been miked up, you know, by NFL films for that moment. Um, otherwise everybody's just calling me an idiot. Get back up. Let's go. You wuss. But, uh, it was,. But it was kind of a cool moment to have. Yeah, cool. You're like, get off me. You actually had to push trainers off you. Yeah.

Does that usually work? Yeah, usually. They're kind of soft. You can kind of get what you want when it comes to those guys. So no, I, yeah, that was a weird one, right? They call timeout. And for some reason in my head, the moment it clicked, it was like, that counts as basically my play that I had to sit out so I could go back in and I knew there was only going to be one more play so I could get through one play with her. Yeah, that's awesome. What hat are you wearing right now? What is that? Uh, Dodger hat. Dodger hat. Do you know anyone that plays for the Dodgers? No, I don't. You know, just an outside fan.

You never went to school with anybody? No, just, you know, from the outside looking in really. Have we fact-checked that? Really. Do a deep dive I don't know if anybody's heard of it. I mean you play the game, so you don't listen to the games Do you know how annoying that is yeah? I mean I do yeah Do the same shit to me all the time and and you know give me a give me a tough time But yeah, I get it. You know it's cool 10 12 years ago, but yeah, yeah everybody gets it

Yeah, yeah, I mean it, it's just too much. It's crazy. It's too much. It's wild. When he got arrested, were you like, oh, man, this is dragging our high school. No, I was like, good for you, bro. You're just trying to make your tea time, man.

I was just trying to make his tea time. Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the No Look Passes? I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as credit goes. I know that they're fun when they when they work they're kind of shitty when they don't but it is it's part of it you know I think defenses are so good these days these guys are so good at reading what we're

doing with our eyes so I'm just trying to take advantage any little way I can. How long have you been doing that? Is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera angles everywhere or were you doing that like way back in the day? You know, I think it's probably, you know, uh, been publicized a little bit more recently, but I was having to do that probably back in the day with Calvin, you know, everybody in the building, you know, I was trying to throw him the ball.

So I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing on the ball and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely gotten more, you know, publicity, I guess recently, but, um, yeah, I had to do that with, with Megatron just trying to get him the ball. Yeah. When he, uh, when he retired, how, how often would you call him? Be like, can you just maybe just, just one more game? God, please come back. Like I need you. No, it was, uh, you know what? Like that's one of those, he was such a special

player, such like a generational player and such a great No, it was, you know what, like that's one of those, he was such a special player, such like a generational player and such a great teammate that I was genuinely just so happy for him, that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away. He was an all time great, we all knew it. It was unbelievable to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player. But I was so happy for him and I'm still so happy

for all his success, but you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there, there's no question about that. But I was happy for his for all his success. But, you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there. There's no question about that. But I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing. Do you have a favorite throw ever? Uh, no, probably not. I mean, there's gotta be at least one or two that are up there. There's a couple good ones that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful. I in the Dallas game, um, that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful. In the Dallas game, back in the day at Detroit, big comeback late in the game, that last two minute drive,

I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham, who was my college roommate, played a few years in the league with me and hit him on a long ball down the left side into like a two Tampa coverage, which was a cool shot. In London against the Falcons. We were down big and I think it was the touchdown. I think they got me the career lions TD Mark passing TD Mark. I threw one to golden Tate. That was just

a launch. That was a good one. Do you know when it's like when you're throwing like a deep ball, you know, the second like when, when you're throwing like a deep ball, you know, the second you release, you're like, damn that I fucking, that's a good, I threw the hell out. That's a good one. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Well, that was kind of a weird one. They were like, Hey, every once in a while, they would just kind of rush through, you drop eight. And I just told GT, I was like, Hey man, just keep running. And it was one of those, I kind of bought a little bit of time. Um, it was third crazy long,

might've been 20, something like that and hit a long touchdown. Um, similar to the one I hit Cooper in, uh, Tampa and the division around, right? Like third and 19. They're like, Oh, they're just going to check it down. And that's when you can kind of go for the dagger every once in a while. Now you're going to throw a couple picks doing that too, but, um, some, some touchdowns that get you back in a game or do something big. So yeah,

that one against Tampa was sick. We also have a coworker who's the most annoying person in the world. There's a diehard Bucks fan. Oh, yeah, literally snatch the soul out of his body. I love that. That was, that was a crazy, crazy. I mean, and honestly, the, the deep ball to Cooper in that game to put us in field goal ranges, like, yeah, as far as a full play, I mean, the situation, the whole thing, that was a really, really special, weird question for you. Yes. you yes first time you ever checked your MX points how many did you have This might have been a question from a weirder guy Dan Orlovsky. Oh gosh. I don't know Orlovsky did I tell him it's I don't know. Yeah, he's just said that I said what it's a lot of points

I've never used any let's put it that way. I've never you ever use any I don't know I'm kind of at the point now where I'm like, I don't know if I will. So our boss, Dave, he has 60 million points and he said he will never use them. I don't have that many, but, uh, so you'll never use them. I have a lot. Yeah. I have a lot of points and you're never going to use it, but I don't know. I don't think so. Wow. What? I love that. What if somebody like wants your points? Like, you're not, I mean, we could talk about it afterwards if that's what you want to do. Okay, I can just make your points. Listen, I don't want to say, like, I didn't, I'm a Bears fan, so I, obviously Lions and

Bears are playing, but I always was like, I respect the fuck out of Stafford. I had the take that you were going to be a Hall of Famer in 2018, and people laughed at me. Well, I appreciate that. That sounds like it should be worth a few AmEx. Yeah, I can put a couple points your way. Have you thought of that though? Like you are-

AmEx points? Well, AmEx points, but yes, also hall of fame. Your career has been phenomenal. You are. And my point at the time was look at his longevity. If he has a deep playoff run, obviously win a super bowl. He's going to be right there. And if you look right now, three to four, if you play three or four more years, you're going to be top five passing yards, top 10 touchdowns. Have you had a second to look back and be like, damn, like I'm stacking it up here?

Uh, yeah. I mean, I think I definitely every year that I play now, I just appreciate so much. And I think back on, I mean, we were just talking about, you know, place from my rookie year and it's like, man, that was a long, long time ago. I've walked into a locker room with guys that were six, seven, eight, nine years old when I first came into the league, which is kind of crazy to think about. Um, but I definitely appreciate my opportunities and appreciate this game. I mean, it's given me a ton. I hope I got three or four more left in me.

We'll see every year is a new year, but I do feel good. And as far as the history books and all that kind of stuff, I have so much respect for this game. Like I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys, voiceover stuff. And like I was all in on Johnny United's and slinging Sammy ball and all the guys right so I have a ton of respect for this game and and just being anywhere near guys like that in that kind of conversation is incredibly humbling and

something that You know, I don't think about on a day-to-day basis, but when it comes up man, it's a it's a ton of appreciation for me Yeah, why had your back? Yeah, I was going back through it today looking at it and people were like no chance. I was like dude he's been, he's played so many games. Yeah I appreciate it. Yeah. And the Super Bowl on top of that. So what like a million Amex points?

Yeah I can get you that. Okay alright. That actually speaks very highly for Dan Orlovsky. He is a great analyst if he knows how many Amex points you have and you don't even know it. He's a deep diver. It's also very weird that he knows that and you don't. I'm gonna check my password when we leave here just to make sure it's not Orlovsky8.

Do you ever tell Dan, like, hey, chill out, man, like you love me a little too much? No, I don't, you know? I just accept it all. I accept it all. Keep bringing it. He's the man. I had such a great, he's such a good dude.

He's such a great guy to be, you know, a part of a team with. he was a great backup for me And and taught me a lot so I I appreciate Dan and everything everything he said Did you get a little bit jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wentz? You're like oh, no does he have yeah? I thought that was kind of fucked up There's a trust tree thing and he he just decided to turn his back for him came back Yeah, if you love something, set it free. If it returns.

I mean, you throw a guy MX points, he'll do anything, you know, turn right back around. So I pulled up a stat earlier since 2011, you have the most fourth quarter comebacks of any quarterback. Have you considered sucking less in the first three? Yeah. You know, I think about it, but that's such a good stat. Like I can't let that go to somebody else. Yeah.

No, three, four games a year, you know, just kind of toy around the first three quarters and then figure it out late, you know come back Yeah, why not quarter? Yeah, I got a Weird question our good friend Tony Scheffler. Oh, yeah, Troy When Dave and I beat him two-on-one in his driveway did anyone in the Lions locker room give him shit for that? I don't know that we did, but man, how's Tony doing? I haven't talked to Tony in forever. He's awesome. Freaking man. He's the best.

I love that guy. He was all time celebrations guy. Yeah, the, the in Tampa Bay. Bay, the Buccaneer sword, the Kansas city chiefs. He had the loin cloth. We were, he was making the smoke, smoke signal. he was all time celebration guy, super fun guy to have on the team. Great dude, one of the hall famed dude. Who's your favorite teammate you've ever played with? Oh man, that's a good question.

I got a bunch man, I think like early on the offensive lineman, the guys that I had like Dominic Raola was a big time, you know great teammate, taught me a bunch. Also kind of a psycho, but in like a good way. Yeah. Kid baller. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable, talented quarterback. You're his godfather, right?

Yeah. I mean, he's a stud. Um, he's one, uh, Nate Burleson was a great dude to be around all time. Fun guy to be around. Didn't have that long of a stretch with him. Obviously the guys here, Aaron Donald, Cooper, those guys are unbelievable. Um, still eat breakfast Cooper every morning. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. We sit are unbelievable. Do you still eat breakfast with Cooper every morning? Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah, we sit in there, we're watching tape this morning a little bit. We're actually watching the 2017 Rams Colts season opener. Why? Because we wanted to see what the first game, how the offense has evolved since Sean's first game here calling it to. Now it's quite different and then we turned on 2018 Rams Lions at the Lions and watch me lose a game which was kind of shitty but that's tough are you ever like hey can we watch something else besides football yeah I think about it all the time but you know Cooper would

be that's totally off limits totally off have there been any other players that are like you know trying to kiss up a little bit too much to you and you're like, I want to get in the breakfast club. No, you know, it's, it's not even like an exclusive thing. Like Pooka's in there a bunch too. Our cafeteria here, I don't know if you guys have been lucky enough to have a meal here. We have not. It's a, it's tight, tight quarters. Yeah, please.

Please on me, on me. It's, it's tight quarters in there. So it's, there's not a whole lot of seats and tables and You know, we're we're in the process of moving into a new facility So it just kind of migrated into the QB room because we're always getting notes and stuff from Sean early anyways So it's not some like exclusive closed-door meeting thing. Everybody passes through and said was up. Yeah Going back to last year's playoffs. How how tough was it to go back to Detroit and like I know obviously you have that history You're you're all your

Daughters were born there. Was it a moment where it's like man This is gonna be difficult even though we got to go play a game like it's there's just more energy to it Yeah, definitely. Um, it definitely was I'm not I would be not human if I wasn't feeling some of those emotions even like the week of practice, thinking about it, you once the ball was sent in, it was time to go. I was just trying to throw for as many yards I possibly could, throw scores, as many touchdowns, and beat the hell out of them. It didn't go down that way, but that's

all I was trying to do. Don't worry. We gave Sean a ton of shit for punting. OK. So he'll never do that again, just because we shamed him. We're going to go for every fourth down the street. Yeah, it's fourth and 14. Let's go.

That's Stafford's zone. Were you surprised at the welcome they got in Detroit? No. We're going to go for every fourth down the street. Yeah, it's fourth and 14. Let's go. At Stafford Zone. Were you surprised at the welcome they got in Detroit? No. Honestly, I was, I know what kind of fans they are and like, honestly, I totally understand it. I get it. They're going to want to do everything they can to make my life as uncomfortable as possible.

They haven't had a playoff game in 30 years, so they're going to be jazzed up for whatever. And the fact that it was me, I mean, and our team, I'm sure it was even more. So that was honestly one of the best atmospheres I've ever played a football game in. Sean and I talk about it all the time, and it was incredibly loud. It was, we came up for warmups and there was not an empty seat. And I mean, it was go time from the second we first stepped out of the tunnel. So it was a lot of fun. It was a great game. Were you rooting for him after they won? Uh, no, I'm not rooting for anybody at that point. Yeah. Um, I have a couple teammates that I wanted to like ex teammates that I really wanted

to see play well and they did. Um, but at that point I'm, I wish everybody could lose. Yeah. I liked that. Do you watch the playoffs? Sometimes, you know, it's, it's hard. Um, you know, I'll peak it, but I'm not, uh but I'm not like invested being like, oh, that'll be a good matchup next week. I'm like, F this, I want to be out there. Yeah, right. Yeah. So after you win a Superbowl though, it's probably got to take, does it take a little bit of this thing out of losing the playoffs? I think it's almost the opposite in the fact that like, I know what that feels like now. You

know, I've got the losing in the first round. I got that one locked up. I know what that one feels like. Only gotten one taste at the Superbowl and I'm like, know, I've got the, I've got the losing in the first round. I got that one locked up. I know what that one feels like only gotten one taste at the Superbowl and I'm like, man, I want to do that. And then when you get those opportunities, I've had so many years where we didn't have that opportunity at all to play in the playoffs. And when you get, um, you know, the opportunity, you're really close. You know, I mean like the fact that, you know, Detroit did what they did after they beat us, man, if we win that game,

who knows what happens? So it's, um, I, it makes it, you know, almost even harder to be honest. You're chasing the dragon. Yeah. Another parade. Yeah. You had fun at the parade. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to ask if you remembered thinking that you were in St. Louis during the parade, but you probably don't remember. Did you say like, what's up St. Louis? Oh, I, uh, I don't know. I, uh, I was having a good time. Uh, that one was, uh, an early start, limited breakfast, all the good recipe for, for a tough day, but you know what we had a good time. I enjoyed it. We as from a fan's perspective, when like guys get super drunk at

the championship parade, it's the best. Yeah. I mean, that's what you should do. I know. Right. Yeah. I was kind of felt bad about it. And Kelly was like, what are you talking about?

That's what exactly you've been playing this game for forever getting your ass kicked Like you deserve to do whatever you want. And I was like, yeah, I guess so. Yeah fun Yeah, speaking your wife, by the way, are you nervous that she and Jersey Jerry have DM'd before? Yeah, I guess I guess I am. She's gonna end up playing Madden with him. Yeah She's also she's also, he's also going to find a way to get like all your signed memorabilia from your house. Oh, perfect. When it goes missing, I'll know where to look. Uh, yeah, I, uh, I have no idea. Social media is a monster that is lost on me,

but I'll do you a favor. I'll watch Jerry for you. Thank you. I'll make sure it, cause if there's like some weird, like Stafford cleats showing up to the office Yeah, where'd that come from? He's definitely gonna say like hey, can you can you grab me a signed jersey? My son's a big match Yeah, his name's also Jersey Jerry I can autograph that to him he DMS a lot of players players wives players mom. So at least that you have okay You'd be you'd be lucky if it was her sending you your shoes. He's probably going to ask for her shoes. Yeah. That's what you got to watch out for.

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Here it goes. I thought for sure you would have recruited your brother-in-law here by now to take over his QB coach or OC He is known as the best wide receiver coach in the NFL. Yeah, I don't even know that is Man, I'll tell you what. I'm not quite at the LeBon status where I just get to, you know, bring in higher, whoever I want. But Chad is the man. He, I used to throw to him all the time in the off season too. He was like my receiver back in the day. But yeah, I mean, we've been trying to get him out here some way, somehow. He would go great in California with the blonde flow. I mean, it's a real thing. I mean, Sean just hired his best friend from college. That's true, but I don't make the coaching hires. If Chad could still run her out,

I could maybe get him a tryout as a receiver. But no, it's, it's really cool to watch his career, you know, in their family grow. It's been cool. Yeah. All right. So just remember the name Chad Hall. He's going to be a head coach. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yes, absolutely. Is he, he's known as the best wide receiver coach. That is what I rocked it on Buffalo there for a long time. Yeah. And he's crushing in Jacksonville now. So he does a good job. And that's not from him. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I read that off.

That's from a different guy. Top my head. Yeah. That's it. Well done. So what are we thinking for this year? How are we looking to camp? I know that Coach told you guys not to fight, right?

Yeah. Have you fought anybody? Have you wanted to? I have a theory that the new Guardian, the caps that they wear, the soft ones, people are taking them off and swinging them at people more because they're softer. Well, I saw some some clips from what Detroit and New York the other day. They were fighting pretty good and dudes were just smacking each other in the gardening cap, but I guess yeah, it doesn't doesn't hurt your hands as much. I have not fought anybody haven't had the urge to yet. I'm usually just too tired of practice to even think about fighting.

But no, we've we've we've kept the chippiness down, which is good. Camp's been good. A couple guys dinged up, which is like the worst for those guys. I feel so bad for them. We're trying to kind of come together, but I feel good about this year. So as a veteran of the NFL for as many years as you played in it, I imagine that going to camp every year in the middle of the summer, you're like, it's probably not a great feeling, but also something that you have to do, something to learn.

Are you actually doing different things this year than you've done in the past? No, I mean, it's pretty standard for me. I had one vet off day, the first day of pads, this year. That was kind of like the only thing I've had that's been different than anybody else. That was something that we kind of knew going into camp that I was going to do. But no, I mean, it is late July every year.

You just buckle your chin strap and get ready for a six, eight month grind. This is the start of it. I know training camp has changed so much. When I first got in the league, I was part of the old CBA. I mean, we were going two, three a days, full days full pads I mean just beating each other up for weeks on weeks and it's definitely player of more in more player friendly now but I also think it's just a better way to do it you know I think we're getting better work out of it yeah so speaking of camp how fast last year were you like oh

Pukka Nikola is a dude yeah I mean Koop was out last year pretty quickly with a hamstring and and we lost the lost him and Yeah, I mean, Coop was out last year pretty quickly with a hamstring and we lost him. And yeah, I mean, you could kind of feel it, you know, just physical, like it was always going to take time. You're a rookie, right? Like it's going to take time to keep understanding, but it was a testament to him to be able to kind of learn on the go. You know, a lot of people need a full year to kind of just learn and then go.

And he was able to do it all in one. Physical tools are there. I mean, big, strong, physical. So much of his yardage last year was like hidden yardage run after the catch and that stuff you can't really teach you just kind of let him be himself and that's a pretty darn good player. Yeah, yeah.

So go ahead. I was gonna say on the college front, do you call the dogs? Do I call the dogs? No. Is this a fan? Oh, like a Georgia thing? They call on all the dogs, Do I call the dogs? No. Oh, like a Georgia thing? They call on all the dogs and start barking at people. Oh yeah, no, I'm not like a, you know what, I actually get wildly uncomfortable when people like,

bark at me or be like, they'll be walking down the street and be like, Go Dogs! And I'm like, yeah, I don't ever give them the Go Dogs back, it just doesn't sit right with me. I don't know why. It's definitely a player fan disconnect. We'll see like videos on flights like going across the country to Georgia, like a road game or a bowl game and there'll be guys just like jam-packed on

Southwest Airlines just barking at the pilot when he gets on. Yeah. What the fuck? I'm screaming at me I'm like guys thanks. You gotta start barking back. Yeah I need to. Just a little bark. I know I need to. My wife's from Georgia so like yeah I gotta make her proud. What was your favorite game at Georgia and your least favorite game? favorite game at Georgia Probably too. We had the blackout versus Auburn my sophomore year, which is the first time we ever worn black jersey, which was sweet We had a great game Keelan Johnson, I believe with a pick on the first play which was awesome

And then sugar bowl that year in Hawaii, against Hawaii, was really cool. Felt like we should have been in the national championship game that year. We kind of got jumped because we didn't go to the SC Championship. But went to New Orleans, had a good time in New Orleans, and beat up on Hawaii, so that was a good one. Least favorite game probably at Kentucky, my freshman year. Got my helmet ripped off on a run QB run on third down kept running Smashed in the forehead nose cut the whole thing. So and we lost

So I had the loss and just just a mauled face for a couple weeks, which is a tough one I probably look pretty sweet though when it happened. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember it that way But as a fan, yeah, you probably thought it was sweet. Yeah. Because I've seen, you seem to take a, how should I put this, a less physical approach to the game sometimes. I've seen you out in space as like a lead blocker on a reverse. Oh, yeah. You're blocking is, it's something to watch. Yeah, it is.

You kind of like, kind of get in the way. Yeah. But then also kind of get out of the way while making it. Nowadays, nowadays I'm just talking to the defenders, hey man, hey man, easy up, easy up, don't hit me, you know? Yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to like, you know, get out of the way. Nowadays, I'm just talking to the defenders, hey man, hey man, easy up, easy up, don't hit me. I'm just trying to get out of the way safely. But earlier in my career, I liked the physical part of the game a little bit more than I do now. There's no question. Yeah, in that game against Detroit, they beat you up pretty good. You got knocked around

a little bit. Do you get mad in the games? When you have that adrenaline surge like you did in the rookie year, what we talked about, Are you mad that they're hitting you like that? No, I it kind of it kind of fires me up a little bit You know like there's only two ways for you to go react as a player right like you're gonna either like wilt and and go sit on the sideline and be intimidated by getting hit or you got to charge yourself up and be Like keep bringing it and I think the first, one of the early third downs in the game, I threw one to Marcus Robinson and smashed my hand on a helmet and got hit and hurt like hell. But the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it

didn't and, you know, scream back at those dudes and get myself fired up. That's great. How far can you throw the ball still? Still? Oh man, I don't know. And maybe what was your peak? I don't do it. Yeah, I don't do it much anymore. In high school, we went to that Elite 11 camp. I threw in 78. That was like the longest I ever tried and threw it. I read a story that you went to the Manning Passing Academy. Yeah, when you were on the Manning cast, maybe they told a story that they booked Eli and

Peyton were like, we don't want to throw after Stafford when you were like 17 years old because you were Just like hocking it everywhere. Yeah back in the day. I was arm was live Yeah live back in the day taking a couple hits heard a couple things here and there But no I can I can still get it out there a little bit I don't I I couldn't even tell you to be honest with you. It's probably Starts with a six instead of a seven like it used to but it's probably a high six number That's good Do you guys not like catching your balls like when they come over from a different team of a seven like it used to, but it's probably a high six number. That's still... Do you guys not like catching your balls?

Like when they come over from a different team, are they like, this guy, it hurts? Used to be that way. Used to be when I was young and I didn't really know what I was looking at. Everything was coming out as hard as I could and I was trying to hurt people with it. Now I'm trying to help them catch it, which is better for the completion percentage. People don't give Matt Stafford enough credit for your arm. Yeah. Well, I don't know. It's whatever it's whatever it is still anymore, but, uh,

back in the day I could, I could throw it around a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever play baseball? I did. Were you on, were you on anyone's team? No, no, just kind of a live arm. It was a one man show. A lowly. You have the best arm on your team? Uh, no. Oh no. Who, who did? That's crazy. Jake felt just picked another teammate. Oh, no. Who, who did? That's crazy. Jake felt. I just picked another teammate. Jake. Shout out Jake. He's just sitting in his office right now. He's like, fuck yeah. That's exactly what we needed another guy to talk about. Yeah. A guy that nobody talks about.

Jake felt. I'll tell you what, he was eighth grade. You know, this guy was shaving in the eighth grade. It was an unbelievable stud. We'd go to tournaments. He was winning MVP, hitting bombs, launching it. Uh, get that Matt Stafford and Jake, Jake felt when it never was. Jake, I don't understand how people don't know that. But fun fact about Jake felt five touchdowns in the state championship game, Texas high school record. Wow.

Jake felt legend. It felt legend. And he caught who threw those. Uh, zero throws. Oh, so how about that? What? Yeah. They were playing a lot of a lot of too deep show. We're handing off coach take what you're just running with it running with it caught a pass from a receiver on a double reverse pass to receiver 159 enough and it was kind of like a Jerry's world. No back in the

day Tyler Rose Stadium. Jake felt like felt was a problem. We're gonna just start saying that like who's the best to come out of Highland Park? Like Jake ever heard Jake felt? Yeah, he's gonna be fired up. Good for you, man. Deep cut. Good for you, man. We gotta have Jake. I talked to Jake. I talked to Jake a decent amount. All right. Love that. You gotta have them on the pod at some point. Yeah, we got to. We actually are going to track them down. Open invite. Yeah, we're going to track them down. And we're going to introduce you to belt that rocks.

We're just going to be like, what's in store for this year? Prediction. Record? Yeah. I don't do that. We're going to try to win a whole lot more than we do lose. But no, it's so much fun to get out there and do it, man.

I honestly do have a ton of fun with it. But as far as predicting the record, I got no idea for you. We'll see, every year's a brand new year. If you would've told me last year, we were gonna be three and six at the biotech, I would've told you you were crazy, because I thought we were playing really good.

And then if I told you, you know, we're gonna win seven and one, we're gonna go seven and one after that, you would've told me I'm crazy. So, you know, it's just gotta go out there and play them. And that's the cool and amazing part about NFL football is, you know, you kind of go into the season, you kind of know Georgia is going to be good.

You kind of know Ohio State and those teams are going to be, you know, the big time powerhouses. And then you come to the NFL, you're like, man, who knows? Yeah. Nobody had the Houston Texans doing what they did last year. So got to go out there and prove it every single year. How awesome was it at the end of the game against the commanders last year where Ron Rivera ran like nine plays inside the two yard line and he took like four minutes off the clock It didn't score a fucking point. Yeah off it. Are you bitter about that? No, actually I was at the time

I was very angry at the time. Yeah, but because we lost that game. Yeah, we drafted Jayden Daniels. I'm high I think he's awesome. Yeah, he's super fun to watch. At least he was in college and then old backup of mine is a At least he was in college. And then an old backup of mine is a QB coach there too, David Blau. Shout out David Blau. He did some good things for him. So love it. David Blau, Purdue?

Purdue, Boilermaker. His wife ran the 400 meter hurdles when he was with the Lions. They did the whole deal. They'll team watched it. I don't think she ran this year, but yeah. David Blau is QB coach. Yeah. All right. So no predictions, but dream career. How many more years are you playing? Um, I

don't know, man. I feel really good and healthy right now. Um, I know a really good cliche answer. No, but I would say this. Yeah. I mean, I'm full of them. Um, I've been doing this for a long time. Uh, but, uh, no, I do think that like, there's no possible way I could tell you that answer right now, because like at the end of last year, I was like completely worn out and zapped. Right.

And then it takes me forever to kind of just get like charged up to go again. And what I put myself through, like physically, emotionally, and mentally, all that stuff for a football season, it takes a lot out. Um, and I got an awesome family that I love being around, so I don't know. I know I'm going to enjoy lot out. And I got an awesome family that I love being around. So I don't know, I know I'm gonna enjoy this year.

Hopefully I'm back next year playing. Hopefully I'm back the year after that playing, but I can't. I can't make any promises. But you feel great right now. I do, I feel really good. That's all that matters. I do.

Honestly, like, elbow was shit a couple years ago. It feels great now. There's a lot of me that has kind of revamped and feels a lot better, so I feel good. Yeah, it felt like when you were going through your elbow injury, when you're trying to gut it out for a little bit like you had some weird games where you're like you had to like throw it weird. I was I was in a bad spot yeah really you know that elbow started

all the whole 21 season I started wearing that sleeve because I was like taping myself underneath my sleeve just to keep the elbow going I heard it in camp that year and was able to get through that and we tried to do some things to help it fix. And 22 was tough as far as the ability to go out there and execute. So feels great. Last year felt great.

Feels good again. Yeah. Are you like us as fans, like if you have a bad game, do you just try to avoid any sort of media coverage whatsoever? And you're like, I don't want to listen to anything. Yeah. I don't want someone to accidentally bring the game up

then I have to listen to their dumb like take about it because as fans we We avoid the media like the plague on Monday Tuesday probably Wednesday even Thursday Yeah, I don't want to accidentally catch any strays about like flashing back to that game. Yeah, no, I mean At that point Monday Tuesday Wednesday I mean, I'm like so moved on to the next game obviously I'm trying to figure out what the hell went wrong in the last game if we had a bad one or I had a bad one. All right, how do we fix it?

And if you're not thinking about the next opponent, Monday or Tuesday, you're way behind. So that's where my focus goes. And I don't really do a whole lot of watching or listening to a lot of sports talk or any of that kind of stuff during the season. So Stephen Smith doesn't enter your head at all. No, Stephen A is not there. He doesn't have any space up here.

Hey, who would have won the fight between Jim Schwartz and Jim Harbaugh? Harbaugh? Yeah, that's a great throwback. Yeah, one of our favorites. I mean, like, Harbaugh was already, like, de-robing. He was ready to shirt off at that point. He was ready to throw down. So, I mean, like, that's an early advantage. Yourobing. He was ready to shirt off. He was ready to throw down. Um, so I mean like that's an early advantage, you know, we weren't going to be able to hockey, pull the shirt over and go, but, uh, no, that would've

been a good one to watch. It would've been a really interesting one to see. Um, that escalated quickly, as we like to say, but, uh, man, you know, I, I got to go with my guy that, that, uh, drafted me Schwartz. I think, you know, he's a really sharp dude. He probably would have found an interesting way to win that one. I think he would have had to kill Harbaugh. Because unless Harbaugh is dead, he's out.

Yeah, I mean, that's fair. That's a fair point. Yeah. Did you ever tell Coach Schwartz that his nipples were showing? Because he always had rock hard nipples. You know, that never came up. OK. You know, you would think it would, but no.

I saw it. It never did. It was just hallway. I know, that never came up. OK. You know, you would think it would, but no. I saw it. It never did. It was just Hallway. I don't know what it was. I think he was just so excited to coach football. Yeah, I think he just gets geared up for it, man. Just have that polo.

Whatever does it for you. Tucked in. You know? Just like, damn. Have you noticed Coach McVeigh's beard's a little bit fuller? Yeah, I think he's always got a great beard. Yeah. I mean, is it all natural?

Oh, is that what you guys are in on? Is he on the gear? I don't know, man. He might be. He Yeah. I mean, is it all natural? Oh, is that what you guys are hitting on? Yeah. Is he on the gear? I don't know, man. He might be. He is. I'll have to get back to you guys on that one. No, we're confirming he is.

He's confirmed. We got it out of him. Hair shot into his face. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's a thing, huh? To thicken it out, yeah.

Let him know he's not eligible for the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I will. Yeah. Asterisk. Asterisk. He's used to big, giant asterisks. Yeah. Asterisk.

Have you thought about, by the way, going to the Hall of Fame, who you would want to give your introduction speech? Oh, man. No, that's way too preemptive. I mean, I was in 2018. I was the one that won. I can't think of anybody.

Yes. No, I have no idea. I wouldn't even want to speculate on something like that right now. Do you think about dying your beard? No. I'm full, like, whatever happens, happens. Yeah, gray situation. I feel like it's like, I battle it. Yeah, it's like, you know what, I got four

daughters. No shit, you got a gray beard. Yes. You know, I mean, I think that comes with the territory. I get shamed for it all the time. People just point it out. Thank you. I appreciate you. Yeah, crazy that you had four daughters. Yeah. And there's only two parents. Yeah, right. So who watches the other two? Yeah, nobody just kind of figured out. Yeah. The old one. It's like tag team, you know, they kind of come out, come in, come out, come in. We just hope we don't lose them. When was the last time you got a full night's sleep? Actually last night, my kids are actually a vacationing at the beach right now. So it was a beautiful night's sleep. That's why

I look so rested. Yes. Good stuff. Yes. Um, all right. Well, Matthew, this has been awesome. I got one last question. Chevy question. Go to chevy.com. Silverado toughest truck out there. This might be a weird one. You might not even have any idea who these people are. Were you ever in the same room or do you wear of super fan in Detroit? Don two legends of the season ticket holding community in Detroit. Is that a crack man crack man or whatever? No, no. They had a video, a famous video where they got kicked out and they were, they did

like a press conference from like an alley. I don't know that one. All time video. Check that out. Let me know. Yeah, I'll say the end zone. They're the best. So I went, I, I feel bad now. I went for the Mac championship. Yeah, I'll say the end zone. They're the best. So I went I Bad now I went for the Mac championship Was like I don't know like ten years ago Yeah years ago and they said when they got kicked out they said where their season tickets were so I went and bought tickets I'm a Bears fan. I hate the Packers you guys were playing the Packers Yeah, went to the game sat and watched the game with them dressed up everything. No shit It was the Aaron Rodgers Hail Mary game. That was a tough game.

Right in their face. They were sitting there telling me that they were, I don't remember what your guys record was at the time. We had just won the Thursday night game before that, or the Thanksgiving day before that. I think we missed the playoffs that year by one game. Yeah, because they were doing the math. They're like, once we win this game, we're going to win that.

And then boom, right in their face. I want to hurt. Phantom face mask. Yep. That's what Aaron Rodgers, he gets away with that shit. Yeah well you know what it was in jail. It was a nice toss. Yeah it was a nice toss. Yeah we were in a tough defense. I think we had Ziggy Onside guarding the sideline at that point which didn't make sense. Yeah probably not the most sense. We had Detroit Don and Superfan there they're big fans. They're

what like the crazy Detroit fans are we had super fan on the show Yeah, the Lions made it to the playoffs just to get his reaction and he said that there was a woman who sat next to him named sprinkles who Said what time 2017? She's like, I'm never coming to another game until they make it to the playoffs Yeah, and then they saw her at the playoff game. She showed up true to her word. Yeah What a lady sprinkles. Yeah. You know, I think she dressed like a clown. Yeah. They thought she had died. Yeah. And they're like, what sprinkles alive? Yeah. So they brought

her back to life. Yeah. Incredible. Yes. Good for them. Yeah. But Matthew, thank you so much. Uh, best of luck this year. Appreciate it. Future hall of Famer future giver of AMEX points to me. Yeah. Former teammate of Jake felt Jake felt legend. Yeah. And to a chef or our guy and we'll watch Jersey Jerry because again, appreciate that. I need a little oversight there. The minute you see that name. I don't even know what that conversation is like. I don't want to know like, Hey, I talked to this guy Jersey Jerry. I'll

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I still don't really understand what that means. And then we asked you and he's like, well, I was nine. It was the first draft I watched. Yeah that makes sense to me yeah so you don't you don't remember any players ever getting drafted you don't remember Calvin Johnson how old were you I was I didn't watch it live he literally just saying physically he remembers yeah he didn't watch the draft before where were you where were you Matthew Stafford got drafted on the couch? Yeah, nice. First player I ever remember getting drafted. Yeah. As you watch the draft the year after.

Yeah. I was a Sue Sue and I don't know. Oh, yeah. I thought it was the Sam Bradford draft. Yeah, it might have been. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah. So yeah, I do. I get that's what got me into the draft I got super into all the drafts and got me into football But like the first season I ever watched was the o-16 season. Okay, so I watched every game So the draft was your biggest game Okay, that makes more sense and then like I kind of didn't know the like how the draft worked and then like the week of

The draft I kind of figured it out draft worked and then like the week of the draft I kind of figured it out. And I was like, oh, okay. We're up first. Snake. The first pick is snake. Not a snake. Yeah, but like I also- I'd be sick if it was.

It would be. I assumed like Stafford was going to be like a god, like day one, like, all right, we're set, like he's the guy. And so that was weird when you had to deal with all that. But- Huey, who is your favorite person to watch get drafted? Oh, it was Nod person to watch get drafted? Oh, it was Nadamak and Sue.

Yeah. It wasn't a year after. Yeah. Because you knew what to draft. You were ready for that draft. You were draft vet. Yeah, I've been through it before at that point. I was so excited for that guy. Stafford's face when you said that, he was like, what? He didn't...

But he laughed. He was like, oh, okay. Yeah. I never heard that one before. He was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I never heard that one before. He probably has so many lines fans that have gone up to him in his career. Right. And never once has somebody said that to him. You can see it. Person I saw get drafted. Like that's impressive. That's impressive. Yeah. Like true. He's not going to forget that. No, he definitely will not. I love that because you're going up to one of your athletic heroes and being like, let me tell you about when I saw you on TV one time. Yeah, it meant a lot to me to see on my television Yeah, do your name called I was getting emotional in the corner when you guys started to talk about the playoff game

Yeah, and and yeah, you know I'm getting his ass kicked in Detroit Like that was it was it was very cool like hearing both him and Sean McVeigh Obviously he's different with Stafford because of the time that he spent there But how much they like love that stadium in that environment? Yeah, how cool they thought it was and Stafford was I mean we've been trying to get Stafford on forever And it did not disappoint just a fucking great dude. Yeah, he's like awesome dude had a lot of fun talking to him Hope everyone enjoyed the interview. Okay Mount Rushmore time. So what is the score?

I'm sure everyone enjoyed the interview. Okay. Mount Rushmore time. So, what is the score? Do we have it? I can pull it up. Pull it up? I'm in first. That's a slight little bit of controversy maybe.

No, there's no controversy really. Hank broke the rules. Yellow, yellow, yellow really set this thing off. Feels like we're back into Mount Rushmore season. Yeah, I saw a lot of pictures of yellow cheese. Thank you everyone for having my back. What wait Yellow that wasn't that wasn't what you said. Yeah No, you have no

Wait Hank all the pictures that people were sending you and me and big cat and Max You thought that those were yellow pictures of pepper. They were sending that to you yellowish. They're ready to not yellow or shirt, buddy Get ready to get tortured. What do you mean? Just this why I don't think you're equipped your brains equipped right now Oh, I'm ready to go. Okay, so you this one. Yeah, but you cheated. I have the scores by the way Okay, give us a score. I mean I came in dead last didn't matter, but I you know, I didn't I did not you did cheat The wow is you're not supposed to tip your picks Beforehand the first tweet I saw from you yet on on Friday morning was cold play yellow. That was a coincidence You also had a picture of sponge your rules by Bob and Pikachu you created

Yeah, that was after you guys were were you created these rules flipping out. Yeah, hey you read the rules I didn't break them you retweeted them out rush more and you're not allowed to do that Every are your walking the show, you know, you can't retweet the poll. Don't vote for team. No, you don't know you know You don't reach very different. Yes, I do you you you you broke the rules on Mount Rushmore season, which we hold very near and dear and That's what you do. You've shown it time and time again that you break the rules You don't care about the integrity of Mount Rushmore. How about minus one point we hit him in PFT tied I think that's fair. No tied for last. Hey when I broke the rules last year

You you actually broke the rules. What was the punishment that you had? I Forget you were the first one to break the rules and Mount Rushmore points We need the Commissioner of the Commissioner of Rushmore to yeah, you broke the rules of Mount Rushmore way back in the day He broke the rules, but he also came last They came in last the pizza drafts you broke the rules Came last it doesn't matter of what this this yellow. Yeah, but this is a pattern. That's what we're saying you had a lot of flagrantly disrespecting Mount Rushmore season and the Operation got it.

All right, so what do you want to do? I'll just retire? Nothing. All right, good. That would mean you would be in last. I did see that clip of the pizza draft, which I had forgotten. I had memory hold some of it because you've put so much blame on us for ruining Mount Rushmore.

We seem like the bad guys. You are. And I forgot in that clip that before we admitted that we threw that draft, you admitted that you had someone else make all the picks for you Liam yeah, not you which is illegal. Oh, it's not wasn't on your team You don't ask people for for no hey do what talking about yeah What and Liam made your lady how many way yeah you you ask people for help no, but I'm sure you guys do no what? It's not doing rocket science.

Yeah. I was just curious. Okay. Alright, so Mount Rushmore of steroid users, Alleged. We'll put Alleged in for, but a lot, most of these people. Do you want the score? I got the score. Yeah, yeah.

Hank, did you ask anybody for help in this draft? Uh, yeah, I did. Billy Football. Oh He could be a pick. He could be a pick. Um, all right, here's the scores max first 53 They don't say like that big cat second 44 Hank third 37. Ooh Pft last 36 Mount Rush Wars left, but is that it? Hank got last place.

I got first place in the last one. But memes, we need to figure out what the punishment is. This is so we have nine Mount Rush wars left. Because I believe we ended before the Labor Day is the last one. It's gonna get tight boys. Okay. Memes? I don't think Hank should should be. Yeah, no

punishment. I think he should just be you should give him a warning though. All right, you get one warning. There we go. Maybe another warning. But I wanted a documented warning. So like when people look back at this summer's Mount Rushmore, it says the final scores but then it says Hank received one more actually, I'll find them. I'll find them. Memes, could you put that in writing? Yeah.

A written warning? I'll give him a fine. $1,000 to the commissioner. When people look back at the history of Pardon My Take, and they go through every Mount Rushmore season, it should say Hank one morning. Do you agree? I could see you're a little bit retweeted

at Mount Rushmore. Yeah. The yellow Coldplay, though. We've never done that before. And I wasn't tweeting it. That wasn't tipping a play though. We've never we've never done that before and I wasn't tweeting it That wasn't tipping a pick though, but you can't well you just happened to tweet your pick that morning. It was the video I mean we could play that game. We put you made this rule because we have bigger followings and we could play this game But we don't we we play by the rules

Like if I just tweeted out my pick in the morning everyone be like, oh, Oh, I'm going to go vote for that. Oh, what you say. You alleged that. I guess you do the whole reason we have the rules because you're like, the listeners will vote for PFD and big cat over anyone else. So we can't let them know. And then you went and did that. So much like you did intentionally. Yeah. It's almost like you want to get kicked out of Mount Rushmore. No, I guess that was a mistake. I wasn't really thinking that thoroughly about it, but that I guess by the letter of the law was wrong your laws

What do you mean? You weren't thinking that thoroughly? This is these are all points that you've said to me these laws on us Yeah, just like I wasn't tweeting it about my rush more as a great song I got reminded of it when I made the great pick and I was like, oh, it's a great song Let me tweet it out. It's not that good. Share with my friends. Not that you came in. You came in last. Yeah, the anime freaks didn't show out. Shocker. Part of my take in the anime crossover. We got a few. Okay. Who goes first here? I'll rush more. I go first. It's a terrible draft. Shout out first. Shout out our guy at the meet and greet who gave us this idea I think this is a good one. Yeah, this will also be a good this will be

It'll be a nice like change of pace from from Friday Yeah, it'll be a lot of open-ended ones coming up because I do like those. Yeah, but we needed we need a straightforward one That one that one took a lot of a lot of years off my life. I think we were arguing it days late That one took a lot of years off my life, I think. We were arguing it days later. mozzarella, Italian, American, white, they're all white. Yeah, no, I was, there was times where I was like laying in bed and I was just thinking about the cheese, the different white cheeses. And then I was thinking, there was another time, at one point I like thought, I was like,

oh, that was a good argument that I should have used. I was like, I was thinking, I was like, oh that was a good that's a good argument that I should have used I was like I was thinking I was like Hank said yellow starbursts Does that mean he gets all starbursts because there's one yellow starburst. Oh, I really rattled you Yeah, no taking yellow starburst was maybe the worst pick out of it. No, yeah. Yeah, the Coldplay song Yeah, yep. All right, so I first pick Patrick Holmes. What? Nothing. I did it.

I admit it was a bad pick. You haven't admitted any bad picks. I said I got crazy with that one. It was stupid. I got sometimes in Mount Rushmore. I know the PFT can back me up, but sometimes you just like you just throw one and you're like, whoops, that was a mistake. I do it all the time.

Probably should have just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like whoops. That was a mistake. I do it all the time Probably just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like fuck I wish I had that back always should have said ice cream sandwich in the sandwich draft. Yeah, right It's a delicious sandwich, but it was a bad pick But that's it happens every Mount Rushmore season where it's just like you just lose your mind in the middle of a draft Someone makes a good pick you panic patch from homes kids pick. I should have said meatball and pizza Someone makes a good pick you panic patch from homes kids pick. I should have said meatball and pizza Didn't okay, okay my turn. Yeah first I will go with I think steroids I think one person I think Barry bonds. Yep. Okay, good pick. That's good one. Yeah, that was that was a good one There's there are a lot of good picks, but that's the one one. I think yeah, I still have my one one

But I had I had bonds as one too. It was a Kinseko. Oh good pick. Big steroids guy he's he's like the Johnny Appleseed of steroids for Major League Baseball. Taught everyone how to use it. Yep. Bash brothers he looked like a like a like beached whale he was on so many steroids when he boxed Billy. Jose Kinseko's got to be 1-1. Yeah, all right, so I'll just stay consistent here. Mark McGuire broke the home run record. That was steroid city. He was also the tip of the whole thing when they found the Andro.

Great. Andro? Yeah, genius move on his part, by the way. We don't talk about, that's PR 101. Yeah. You leave a bottle of legal steroids in your locker, so people talk about that. And then that's the controversy. Yeah. These are the I would say these are like the faces. Those are the three faces of steroids. Yep. Three. Yeah. The three pimply backs of steroids. Yeah. Mark McGuire. He captured

I also we should have said before we got no problem with any of these. Right. We like Sarah. They all should be in the Hall of Fame. Like it's not a judge. Maybe not. Can say go. No, his numbers probably aren't there. Yeah. He lost Billy football. And he's fully in that. That's taken out. That's the number one thing that why he shouldn't be in the hall. But yeah, Mark McGuire, Barry bonds. They should be in the Hall of Fame. All right, Hank. I'm going to go with Lance Armstrong. Good pick. And then I will go. Tough.

See, four is such a good spot. It is. Four is a good song. One. Bangers back to back. Yeah. But then things are going to be pretty thin. Do you get, yeah, there's a wall. Like one's a tough spot for this draft.

Mm-hmm. Brian Cushing. Ooh. Yeah. Brian Cushing. Ooh. Okay. Interesting. I had him on my list. He was much further down on my list, but I had him. I like it.

I actually don't know. I'm gonna take my next pick that I was planning on. I would have even taken him one, my first pick, because he is also Mr. Steroid, Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. I thought about him at 1-1. I mean he's like he actually also the way he talks about steroids is very funny he's like I was prescribed by a doctor. Mm-hmm. So what like now all these guys are doing steroids and it's bad. Yep. But he was just he was just roiding up. He was.

And I mean all his just he's an You think you feel good about Brian Cushing? Nope. He's on my, he's on my others. He's on my others. I did have him, I had him as fourth round value. He's on my others. I mean, he was roided out. He was.

And I think it was a combination of like, you know, the arms with him screaming all the time with his bloody face. Yeah It's good pick Good picking Staring through my soul right now. He just are you mad at are you mad at me? He took cold play again, I feel good. He just did it again. I feel good Okay, I am.

Lance was a good pick. Thank you. Lance was, had to go in the first round. Had to go in the first. Absolute no brainer for Lance. All right. For my second pick, I'm going to go with, I'll go with Sammy Sosa. Sammy Sosa.

Might not have done steroids. Did steroids. Definitely did steroids. I don't, what? I think his head got twice as big. I don't appreciate I think his head got I don't like twice as big I don't appreciate that question. He get adult braces, too I think he got braces when he was like 35 years old I want him to find that clip from this year when

Luke and Ellis asked him if he if he finally is ready to talk about like his steroid use and he just didn't talk Right. No, he he a on is reset home is on like a seo this is on now the question that i speak for you

okay that's not a guided right yeah not only really that's not a guided that's like the only question he's ever been asked. I'm gonna have to put an asterisk on that pic, PFT. Big time steroid guy. The biggest. And he also did a genius movie. He did his own version of Andro, but it was with a cork bat. Yeah.

Whereas everyone's like, well, that was to put on a show for the people. That was a batting practice. I just love that he's still like, you can't be more of a steroid guy to have a steroid question still like kneecap you in 2024. Yeah, just say you did it dude. Just be like, uh Not a question I expected from you. Okay I'm gonna go with a rod. Okay, pick pick I'm between two. Hey Rod was here should take an a rod I mean, no, I would I would have I would have spent it for a year

I would have rather Well, you have another pet. I know Royd. Oh, you're saying you would have rather taken Sam I think I would have rather had Sammy all trade saying I'll trade trade. Can we do trades? I mean, I did now no, they're the most we have the most passive. We're basically our Commissioner is bud. See like he's just like I'm not looking at what you Yeah All right, no trade no trade. Okay. This one's tough Between two guys I'll go Roger Clements good Roger pick. Roger Clements. Good pick.

Yup. Okay. My favorite roid rage moment from Roger Clements was when he threw that bat at Mike Piazza. Yeah. And then he yelled at him. I thought it was the ball afterwards. Yeah. No, he's a good, he's a good, he's the other guy.

I is probably a better player, but Clemens is more of a steroid guy. Yeah. I mean, he just got so angry. He's such a steroid guy. Yeah. He got so angry. Okay. PFT.. I'm gonna go with Vince McMahon. Mmm had him on my list. I had him on my list Yeah, Vince and he also did the bud seal like where he just let everybody else use steroids Yeah, he didn't care. He just was so fucking roided out that when he like the attitude era it was crazy

Yep, Crazy. Okay. Uh, I'll go with someone different. Some may say best in the world. Best ever. Uh, John Jones. Yeah. I had him on my list. Jones. The only thing about him is he did so many other drugs. Yeah, he did, but he did do so. He did steroids also. Yes. Yes. He's a lot of guys. Yeah. He's everything. He tried it all. Okay. Hank. He's a lot of guys. Yeah, he's everything he tried it all. Okay, Hank Okay, I have two yes

There's a big one there There's a big one. Yeah Is there yeah, really big one is big in his name Yep, you're you would never pick them. But you could maybe save your draft. I will go. There's honestly two guys that yeah there's actually three. Yeah there's three guys. There's three guys you could pick. I should we give a girl should we give Hank five five picks picks now if he if he agrees to take many poppy in no mark No, I'll take many Ramirez. Oh, okay. Oh

Okay, that was the one I was debating with with the way he got caught was very funny He was taking like a female fertility drug. Yeah. Yeah, and they had a system. I think he just forgot He said he took his wife's by mistake No But they had a system they talked about it the guy that did it They had a system to kind of get by the testing that was foolproof Many Ramirez just forgot and like took it on the wrong day came in got tested got got yeah busted He took the pill on the wrong day. Yeah, and then I will go with LeBron James.

Oh, interesting pick. Interesting. Very interesting. That's fun. That's a fun one. Hater of the year, Hank. Hater of the year. Probably you're not going to get any LeBron fans.

There are many. LeBron's sexuals are not going to like that one. I got a pick. I mean, how is he not on steroids? What will be that? I'm not debating that. I'm just saying. I'm not throwing a flag.

That's probably an honorable. Yeah, I mean, that's probably an honorable mention. Yeah, I have a pick that I. I don't want to hurt our future chance of having him back on. Julian Edelman, no. I know where you're going, and I would I would take this. Yeah, I will take this if you don't All right fine. I will Pay manning's wife. Yep

That was gonna be that I almost took it one one Thought about it one one that was gonna be my last pick. Yeah. Yep. Good pick. Thank you Thank you. Yeah, I would have done feel better than everyone else would have done it. Yep. People forget alleged Yeah, but yeah, that was a hilarious story. Very funny They said we're not saying Peyton did it. No, no his wife his wife is a steroid wife was coming back from a very bad neck injury Yep Wanted to win a Super Bowl Win a second one. Okay. It's my last pick.

Yeah. I'm gonna take Secretariat. I knew you were going to. Secretariat, some would say the greatest athlete of all time. Yeah. But its heart was like three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show. Secretariat definitely on steroids. Randy Moss, white Randy Moss agreed chances are very, very high that Secretariat was on steroids. Randy Moss, white Randy Moss, agreed chances are very, very high that Secretary was doing steroids. Yes. Dirty horse. That's why flight line's the goat.

Yep, flight line is the goat. Okay, Max, your last pick. I really wanted Peyton Manning's wife. That's upsetting to me. Oh wow, clip that. Jeez. There is another wife, you already know who you already you could get the couple. Roger Clemens wife. No I don't I don't I don't need that was not as famous of a story although there was the picture shoot. There's a by

the pool. Yeah there's a big one out there. I mean I'll just go with big poppy, but I don't know what you're thinking. I was thinking Tiger Woods. Ooh. Did he? I mean, there you could make the argument. Yeah. I just went all baseball, which I hate, but whatever. Yeah. All right. So, so Hank, let's play a game where we'll do honorable mentions. Tell us which ones you wouldn't take over Brian cushion. Okay. Okay. All right, uh, Jericho Abbas Terrible pick. Okay, Billy football You'd rather have nah, yeah liver King liver Kings a good one I thought about Taylor Luan Nah, there's nothing he's pop no one no Kogan. I

Had Hulk Hogan I thought about it. Yeah Decent I'd so rather Brian Cushing. What about dr. Dre? Didn't even know he do is on steroids. What about I actually think them when I think football steroids bill Romanowski You're old. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's right. He had a suitcase. I thought about Broke the fucking fate. He should have went to. I should have went Stallone last. It's Stallone. I had Ivan Drago. If we wanted fictional. Yeah, but like it's not, there's nothing wrong with wrestlers or actors taking steroids. We're not saying there's anything wrong with anyone taking steroids.

No, I know, but it's like, it's, it's... What about the Boz? Would you take the Boz? When you think steroids, you think of rule breakers, not just like guys like at Jack. Would you take the Boz over, Brian? I don't know. Tony Mandrick? Nope. You don't think of Schwarzenegger when you think of steroids? Oh, I definitely do. Yeah. I think he's jacked okay Joe Rogan I'm gonna come Joe Rogan was another one. Yeah that I thought about would you take Joe Rogan over Kreischer? Nope nope

Tom's guru I like Brian cushions a good pick when you know I don't I think you see the name Brian cushion legally you instantly think steroids bust rhymes Is he on steroids? Yeah, he's fucking swore man CT you sound like CDs a good one. Yeah, see T is a good one. Also, what's his name? Wes? Yep, Wes was a fucking classic steroid use He was a skinny ass fuck and then he came back right it out that one season Said he had over he was under companies. He had a hundred companies and then someone figured out he was just like he had he just invested in like a mutual fund. Yeah.

Yeah. Eric Gagne. He was a good one just because he was such a fucking head case. Name translates to I win. Yeah. Deandre Hopkins name translates to I win. Yeah. Deandre Hopkins doesn't pop. I like I like Brian. Good pick. Okay. Macho man. Randy Savage. All wrestlers are on it. Chris Benoit. I thought about Benoit. Yeah. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That does not you don't want to you don't want to you don't want to you don't want to you don't want, you don't want to, you don't want to, you don't want to, you don't want to vote on that guy. Undeniable. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Uh, Ben Johnson, the runner. Yeah. To be honest, did you know that I had no idea about anything of Chris Benoit

until our coworker Mike Greer wore a t-shirt that, that said that had his name on it? Yeah, I can believe I had no idea who he, I had no idea of any of that story. I bought a shirt for one of my friends one time, a Chris Benoit cross-face crippler shirt. Yeah. And I thought it was funny. And then we both realized he's never going to wear it. No.

Yeah, no. One of my personal favorites, Ryan Braun, because Aaron Rodgers said he'd bet a year's salary that Ryan Braun was clean. Yeah. That was awesome. That's a good one. They owned a restaurant salary that Ryan Braun was clean. Yeah. That was awesome. That's a good one.

They owned a restaurant together. Rafael Palmeiro. Yeah. Just because he testified in front of Congress and he pointed his finger and he said, let me be very clear. And then it turns out they did it. Brady Anderson is another one that wouldn't play

on the graphic, but one of my favorites because he hit like, I think he hit 210 home runs and 50 in one year. And it was literally like 18 18 18 50 18 Just played 15 years and a quarter of his home runs came in one year. Yep jewels jewels I had jewels on my list. Yeah, it jewels is on my list, too. I Didn't want to I'm not gonna say the person I was about to say we're gonna say because it's speculative

It's recurring guests on the show very nice guy Oh, no, very very nice. Text it to me Jerry I'll text it to you Jerry is on the worst steroids of all time if he's on steroids. Yeah, Jimmy Garoppolo I forget I forgot Jimmy G just got busted for using PEDs. Yeah, some really bad PEDs. Yeah The lake no no come on Brooks. No. Come on. Brooks? No. No.

He would never do that. I'm trying to think who else I have on my list. Yeah. Most of my names are off. I didn't have many in it. Who was it? No, he didn't do it. He probably didn't do it.

I'm so confused. Carl Lewis, was he? Carl Lewis. Carl Everett. Carl Lewis won three gold medals I think he won the hundred meter dash Three Olympics in a row and they got me don't brace every 12 years and then he got the adult No one can win the Olympics three years in a row the hundred meter dash

We didn't both do it probably but he's a freak Tom Fornelli. Yes, Tom. Yeah, he doesn't does steroids We're sure doesn't he's have you seen his balls like tic tacs? Good list, though. I feel good about it. Very good about it. Who you're for again. Lance Armstrong, Brian Cushing, great pick. Mayor Miras, LeBron. I mean, how it's good list. Hank is for sure going to tweet out like a video of Brian Cushing like bashing his skull tomorrow morning Or just like I've been warned Starbucks cup. Is this for chicks? Yeah. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. Good showboys

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