Pardon My Take - Max Homa, Aaron Rodgers Emerges From His Cave, Official NBA Finals Picks + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

Aaron Rodgers emerged from his darkness cave after only 2 days of solitude with potential use of lights. We got basically every fact about the Alabama situation wrong(02:38-21:45) . Anthony Richardson climbing up draft boards and our official NBA Finals picks(21:45-40:00). Max Homa joins us in person to talk about his incredible last 25 months, potentially winning a major this year, positive vibes and tons more(40:00-01:26:13). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week with special guest Doogs aka Billy’s drunk handler(01:26:13-01:50:00).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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We're getting geared up for the Masters. Speaking of which, we're gonna do a full swing review next Wednesday, so everyone go watch it. We'll have a couple of people, a couple of players that were on full swing on the episode. We're gonna do some Aaron Rodgers talk. We have Firefest. We have Billy here who lost all his chugging competitions.

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It's part of my take, presented by Barstool Sports. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, February 24th. And Aaron Rodgers has emerged from his hole, from his darkness retreat. We have seven more months of winter. Yeah, worst groundhog ever. Ever.

He has come out. He has, he did it in record time. He completed 50% of his darkness retreat. So he said on the Pat McAfee show that he was going for four days. He completed two days. That's all he needed. That's impressive.

Because he's due to make what, $60 million? Yeah. He figured out that he wanted to return for $60 million guaranteed in only two days time. It was either that or he went in there for one sleep and was like, yeah, no, I don't wanna go to the Jets. Yeah. And he was like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm coming out.

Jesus did it for three, but he was in there for two. And he's trying to think of, I guess, what his future has in store for him. Trying to figure out if he wants to keep playing football, spoiler alert, he will. Yep. He wants to continue. Probably would an MVP.

So the report that came out from the guy, Scott Berman, who owns Sky Cave Retreats. What a crock of shit this business is, right? Oh my God. Basically, the dude owns a bunch of trees and then puts doors inside these little trees. Aaron Rogers lived like an elf for two days. They put him inside and it's a 300 square foot apartment.

It's got electricity. He's got a queen bed, no light, a bathroom, and a meditation light mat. It does sound like someone who's just come back from a long weekend in Vegas. Right. That's basically what I do every time after a bachelor party.

Yeah. It's a perfect scenario to really dry yourself out. And I looked at it, it looks like a Manhattan hotel room. The ones that you get where it's like you open up the blinds to see the view and it's just staring at a brick wall next door. That's essentially what he rented. I looked at it, I was like, I would

love to spend two days in here and just sleep. I could have slept 20 hours a day in there. Yeah, it does seem like an awesome place to just hang out for a while. Yeah. It sounds like he was also just cosplaying a Sudam Hussein. Yeah.

Just staying down in a little spider hole, hiding from the jets, making sure that he's just in a right sound mindset. It would get boring after, I think, three or four days. Well. But like a good weekend in there. Yeah, you just chill out, you come out refreshed. I would.

I really want to know. So the article, it was hilarious just to see Adam Schefter's tweet, where it's like, this is an actual thing that just happened. The guy who won multiple MVPs, has a Super Bowl, is getting paid $60 million to play football. And Adam Schefter tweeted, the room in which Aaron Rodgers spent his time is a partially underground hobbit-like structure

with 300 square feet of space, devoid of light, with a queen bed, a bathroom, and a meditation like Matt on the floor. And it's just a link to the article. And that's breaking news today in the NFL world. And there's a couple of things. So I read the whole article, because I was like, what is this all about?

It seems like a pretty good time, just in the fact, like I said, you could just sleep the entire time and come out very well rested. This guy, Scott Berman, I would love to find out. So essentially what happens is he goes in there, he can turn on the lights. He can also leave and just walk around the woods if he wants. So not much of a solitude like darkness retreat.

The guy who owns it comes with food once a day and then provides the person in the solitiation confinement, whatever, jail. Well, we'll just say jail, just so it's clear. He provides a person in jail, Aaron Rodgers in this instance, a thought starter. And people who have been interviewed said that those thought starters, he'll just say

like a limerick or something. Well, you know who the person that the interviewed was? Colin O'Brady, the guy that walked across Antarctica? Yes. That's the guy that started the Everest equivalent. Yes, and he also, Colin O'Brady was quoted in this article and it was like an all time sick flex where he was talking about all the things

that he's accomplished and he was like, yeah, you know, people think it's tough to pull a 375 pound sled across Antarctica but they don't realize it's really the mental toughness. That's why I did this. Like, oh, thank you for mentioning that you went across Antarctica with 375 pound sled. But I am, I think I want to do this for a night.

Yeah, I mean, you're just talking about turning off the lights. And going to sleep. You're talking about sleeping. I'm talking about sleeping. I go on a darkness retreat every single day. It's the way that I've found to hack my body's circadian rhythms to figure out how to get more in touch

with the global calendar. You just, you turn off the lights at night and then you close your eyes and it's fantastic. I actually have this in my house down to the Scott Berman where my son walks in, he's a little troll that walks in and just gives me a little limerick in the middle of the night that's usually, dad, can we get up?

And then I think about it and I'm like, no, darkness retreat, done. So everybody made the joke, like this sounds like he's training to live in New York City. Yeah. Because he's in a 300 square foot apartment that's dungy, it's damp, it's completely dark

and it's boring. This is actually the size of my first apartment in New York City. If you don't count the bathroom, I had a bathroom not to brag so I had one door but it was about 300 square feet and it was like partially underground. I lived there for a year.

Don't feel like I got any more clarity about my life after staying there other than the fact that I don't want to live in New York for the rest of my life. Let me ask you a question though. So you lived there for a year. Did you at any point say, man, I wish I could play football for $60 million? Yeah, I say that every day.

Okay, so there you go. So it's complete. So it does work. So it absolutely works. Okay, so if you spend a good portion of your life living in a 300 square foot place with no lights, you're either going to play in the NFL or you're going to work for Barstool Sports.

Yes, that's it. We have a lot of people out there that live in that lifestyle. Yeah, the only thing was missing is the mice. Yes. Because that absolutely is what he should have had if he's planning on living in New York City. So why go to Oregon for this?

Because this dude is acting like he's sold out for the next six months. I know why. You know, legalized hallucinogens. Yes, it's psychedelics or decriminalized. Okay, so that's bullshit. That should not count as a darkness deprivation retreat if you're turning your mind into its own playground.

It's actually, again, it sounds like a fucking kick-ass weekend. Oh, I'm going to go and sleep and then when I'm not sleeping, I'm going to take mushrooms. That sounds awesome. This is actually, they should market themselves

as being the after party for a bachelor party. Like come to Oregon, sit here in my tree for two days. I'm going to give you food and water and by the time you leave, you're going to feel fantastic. Yeah, it's either that or my longstanding idea is that if we could ever get medical science

to focus on the important things after a bachelor party, if they could put us into a medically induced coma where like, you know, when someone has a spinal injury and they bring your body temperature to like 86 degrees, I would love to do that for two days. That's how I feel about the entire football off season.

Yeah, yeah, just put me in that coma. Get me to September, baby. Well, that's, I mean, this is football off season because we're talking about Aaron Rogers coming out of his hole. That's true. Like that's it.

That is happening. He is, I'm fully prepared for him to go back to the Packers and win an MVP. Yeah. Because it feels like this is just the cycle that we're in and he's probably going to be phenomenal next year. And then we're going to do the whole thing the year after and year after and year after.

He's also upset at the media for judging him. Yeah. But I feel like if you put it out in the media that you're going on a four day darkness retreat and only last two days in the darkness retreat, you deserve to be kind of raked over the coals for that. I for one cannot believe that Twitter and podcast made a bunch of jokes about this.

No. It's unfair. I mean, I thought he was fucking with us at first. Yeah. I thought he was just making this up entirely, knowing that we would all make our jokes. And then he would be laughing at us being like, look how I trolled them.

No, this is like, this is a field day for us. We should be thanking Aaron Rogers actually for giving us something to talk about this week. Yes, exactly. I was going to say the only other thing, we had a couple other things to talk about. One is, hand up. We probably didn't do a great job

of explaining the Alabama situation. Yeah, that was going to be my firecrackers. I'm retiring from commenting on active criminal investigations. Hand up, I'm going to say it. The names were too similar. I messed up the names like three different times. Miles and Miller? Yeah.

I can see that. That was a mistake, hand up. We should clean that up. I will not be commenting on active murder investigations going forward. It was not Brandon Miller that said that there's a bullet in the chamber. No.

That was Miles. Yes. Saying it with his. Yes. But Brandon Miller's car. Miles and Miller, they both start with, am I? I'm not a world-renowned educated person or a good reader. And I fucked it up.

The car was also, one of the cars at the scene of the crime was Brandon Miller's. That was found boxing the other one in that had a bullet hole in it. So for some reason, his car was there too. It's not like he's not implicated at all. Right. But he did not text him like the gun's ready to be fired.

And the story, so there's two things, Hank. One spins on for you and for this show in general. Alabama fans, and this is just sports fandom, they will read everything and find the best possible version of events to then defend their guys. Totally understand that part. We provided them some big time fake news.

Like, look, the media spinning this the wrong way. They want me to get sued for libel. Right, so Alabama fans should be thanking us because you can't get mad when someone just says the facts and they're like, this is a bad situation. Natoes has handled it incorrectly. That's not really something that can be argued, because it's just kind of a fact.

His press conference was tone deaf and he had some stupid answers with the boys would be boys kind of shit. But you can point to this podcast and be like, these guys got it wrong. Look at what the media is doing. So you're welcome, Alabama fans. We did get it extremely wrong.

Oh, everything wrong. All the details were wrong, basically, except we got the state of Alabama correct. Now, it's interesting because if this happened to any other fan base, then Alabama fans would be saying the exact same thing that like Tennessee fans are saying. That's how fandom works. That's how fandom works.

Like if it happened in Knoxville and it was a Tennessee player, you bet your ass everybody in Alabama would be like, that kid should not be playing for the rest of the season. Like kick him out of school. But when it happens on your own campus, you read more about the facts of the case and then you find the little cracks

that you can use to justify why this kid's being railroaded a little bit. Now, I'm not saying that he's being railroaded entirely, but I am saying that if you're a fan of that team, there's enough out there for you to look at and to say, well, of course they shouldn't. It's put him out. You basically get to spend a week saying,

well, actually on the internet. To us, mostly. And if he was the eighth guy on that team, he definitely wouldn't be playing. No, he wouldn't. But because he's a star. And he's very, very good. And he's really good.

They're keeping him in. 40 last night against South Carolina in like, you just see it, if you watch him play, you're like, yeah, that guy's gonna be an awesome NBA player. Hank, I have another spin zone too. Okay, I disagree with you though on one point. I think we actually should do any breaking news, any legal matters.

Hank explains. I think that should be a segment on this show. It is good legal protection for us. Yeah. It's like, well, we definitely not gonna get it right. Yeah, right. Like Hank, a breaking news happens. Tell us what happened.

And then we just get it all wrong. And we go from there. Yeah, I mean, the names again. You're a Roger Kossack. You're a Roger Kossack. You are a legal analyst. I was doing some review, some internal watching the tape. And I was cringing at myself when I realized,

I thought it was like two people. But it was also we third, the Miller really. This is one of those situations where we have to row together as a team because you were giving us the recap and getting everything wrong. And PFT and I were sitting here being like, oh, that's interesting.

Oh, good point, Hank. Like we're just as much to blame as you. We're to blame for trusting Hank. Yeah, that's our biggest crime in this situation. Yeah, I'm not an actor. I'm a post, like once the trial's done, then I'll report. I think the act of stuff is where I went wrong. You're pre-pre-law.

Right, and we can't, to borrow from Nate Oates, we can't control what happens outside of this podcast room. So we don't know what Hank is doing in terms of his law degree outside of here. Yeah, Hank's will be. As far as we know, he's a jurist doctor. Hank's will be Hank's. That's what we've taken away from this.

My other spin zone is I actually think this helps his draft stock. Oh, okay. Go on. Think about all the attention he's getting. Everyone knows who he is. And then after, all eyes are on him, he drops 40.

Actually, I don't totally disagree because, again, as we know who he was before, I knew who he was. I knew the top, you know, the projected lottery picks. I didn't know too much about him. I watched the whole game last night and was like, wow. Yeah. This guy is gonna be a great NBA.

Because if we believe the course of events that his lawyer put out there, and I'm just saying, we're right back to square one right now, but he has not been charged with anything. It seems like he didn't do anything wrong. It seems like it was a fucked up situation, tragic situation, and his name is involved. He did answer a text with someone saying,

you know, like, hey, can you bring my gun? He's like, yeah, I'll be right there. But either way, maybe that's not even wrong. Either way, I think the story, again, is how Nate Oates has handled it more than anything. There's that, but there's also the aspect of just the student codes of conduct. And like we've seen when we went to Ohio State,

we saw like, you know, the teams have their team rules. Oh, Urban was very clear, no guns. No guns. Yeah. Made that clear. A lot of teams have an absolutely no guns policy. That doesn't count finger guns. And also doesn't count for when Urban was in Florida.

Yes, correct. And if you're really good. And you're really good. No guns if you suck. Yeah. That's kind of a fair rule. Yeah, yeah, basically, yeah. But yeah, I'm sure that Alabama has

some sort of policy like that, which they will choose not to enforce on Brandon Miller because he's really, really good at basketball. That would be funny if Urban Meyer, like, when he was coaching Ohio State, like, the minute you get your 50th Buckeye on your helmet, it's like, well, you can have a good one. Yeah, you get a good one.

This handy one. I'm curious to know what we got Billy. He's in a hotel room in DC right now with Dugues. Billy, you did put out a TikTok about how NATO had sought counsel with some legal advice of his own. Is that correct? Yeah, he sought out counsel from Ray Lewis, who had been in a quote-unquote similar situation.

So I was thinking about this. Actually, not the worst person to talk to if you're discussing murders on a team, but probably not something you want to say out loud. Ray Lewis is a great person to talk to. If you want to hear somebody speak emotionally for five minutes, feel better afterwards, but then not understand a single damn thing that he said.

Yes. And also, who was after him with the Hall of Fame speech? Was it Peyton? I forget who followed him up. Who just, like, it was like brutal for him. It was like, shit. Maybe Ray Lewis went last. He just had the sweat towel out.

Yeah, I think he did go for, was that Michael Irvin? No, no, Ray Lewis had the sweat towel out, and he was going forever. He had, like, the priest, or the pastor, the big time, like, TV pastor microphone, because he was like, I'm going to be walking around. Yeah, it's really going to explore the city of Canton and the speech.

So he talked to Ray Lewis about how to handle a situation like this with the media, or what was the conversation about, do we know? How to not have murder charges stick? Maybe, like, dealing with committing a murder after the fact, like, from a player's standpoint? I don't know. It's basically like, so you bought a house, what now?

Yeah. A manslaughter for dummies. Yeah, right, right. So a murder has happened, what next? They should have talked to Marvin Harrison. He'd be a more appropriate person to discuss it with. I mean, by that logic, like, why didn't he hit up O.J. Simpson? Yeah, I mean, he probably knows how to get off.

Yeah, I would say that would probably be the next call he makes, but it was, we did get everything wrong. Brandon Miller is playing. He hasn't been charged, so I don't really know. I mean, it is weird that he's playing. He feels like I'll be able to maybe to just be like, let's take a quick time out,

like a quick, you know, maybe one game, just reassess. Yeah, it's just a bad situation all around. And it's a legally ambiguous situation, too, where it's going to be very tough to prove. Especially when Hank's very ambiguous. Hank has definitely muddied the waters enough to the point where nobody really knows what's going on in this case.

So you might be working for Alistair. You might get it thrown out of court. Yeah. They're like, we don't really know the facts. We listened as per part of my take on February 22nd. Who's to say what happened? A little piece of free legal advice here. If you're a lawyer for Brandon Miller,

you can say, well, the entire jury pool is tainted in Tuscaloosa now because the whole town listens to Hank on part of my take. Right. And now they all have a preconception of what happened that night. And that's not actually the events that took place. Yeah.

If you're an Alabama fan listening to us right now, you need to download, subscribe, re-subscribe, and listen to Wednesday's show like a billy. That should be our highest listened show. And then we could actually prove this in court that we have led the people of Alabama astray, mostly Hank. It is weird because it sounds like it's going to be tough to prove that a crime was committed by him.

Right. Because it's not illegal to give your friend his gun. Right. It wasn't any. Unless he knew that something was going to happen. But that's where it comes in, where it's like, how do you prove that he knew that something was going to happen? But then the car at the scene also adds in another wrinkle.

It sounds like a nightmare, really, to be able to sort through all those details. At the same time, you can probably say if he wasn't on your team, he probably shouldn't be playing right now. Right. Right. I have a crazier take that might take some heat off, Hank.

OK. OK. Thank you, Billy. People are forgetting that the boyfriend in the car also had a gun and shot back. Right. He returned fire, which is if you get shot at, you're allowed to return fire.

I know. But so like his lawyer could prove in court that he may have flashed the gun before and everyone gets off. Well, that was, I think that's what they're trying to do. I think they're saying it was self-defense. But it's either way, it's a tragic, tragic situation. And yeah, we got a lot wrong. So he ended up on us.

Our first time for everything. Yeah. We've never gotten any fact. That was the first seven years of doing this podcast. That was the first time we got a fact wrong. We're like Linney Dykes crew. We're 503 and one on murder cases. Yeah, we almost got it.

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I think it was like 100 to one to be the first pick to eight to one to be the first pick. He's now been thrown around there and mocked drafts. It's my favorite time of year to watch as the draft guys get involved and start clipping stuff and putting it on Twitter and talking about the draft. And you're like, wait, but I watched him play.

Yeah, there's certain guys, this happens almost every season where the longer they go. No, I was, I don't think he's the first overall pick. The longer they go between playing actual football, they get better at football. So this happened with, I think famously, Tom Savage. Remember Tom Savage, Pittsburgh quarterback, right? And I think he got, he like shot up five rounds

over the course of like a three month period where he just went and trained with Trent Dilfer or whatever. Anthony Richardson, he's got a live arm. And I actually, I saw, I've seen the comparisons to Josh Allen and I kind of liked that. Just like putting him in that, in that discussion, in my brain, just when you, when you link somebody to Josh Allen, he jumps up top 10 in my book.

So I don't, I've, I've watched him play Hank. You've watched him play. I, I would not, I would not touch him with a 10 foot pull. All right, so pro Anthony Richardson's side, can an arm, can run, can do, make all the throws. The game against Utah was phenomenal. The game against Florida state. I don't think I've ever seen a wide receiver group

drop more passes. The, the con against Anthony Richardson. It's something that I believe very strongly in. I show me a quarterback who played at power five, who was average, who then ended up having an incredible career. And I'm not saying like the reason why I say incredible is if you're the number one pick, you should have,

like you're projected to have a very good NFL career. Yeah. And so that's like, if we're talking about the 20th pick, that's different. Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy. He actually was pretty good at Iowa State. He was okay, but he, he definitely wasn't.

I mean, he, he, There's a reason why he was Mr. Rel. He peaked out the store. We still got to find out if Brock Purdy is the dude. So Tom Brady is one of the kids thrown out. I was good though. I would still contend he was good. And he also got fucked over because he did the platoon

with Drew Henson in his senior year where they basically were like, well, this got kids from Michigan. He's going to be the best of all time. Let's play him. Let's start a game where Tom Brady starts. And then Drew Henson will come in for the second series. Yeah. It doesn't happen often. It doesn't happen often.

Like Daniel Jones is a case where Daniel Jones was average at Duke and he just finally had his first. So maybe he will be the guy who goes on and has like an incredible career. It's just, I, I think, I think the, the drafts, like all that stuff matters because at the end of the day you do want a guy who can make all the throws. You want a guy who's faster than slower.

Like all these things, hand size, we joke about it. I'd rather have a guy who has huge fucking hands than small hands. But the football you play should still matter a little bit. There's a, the draft guys, when they get involved, they always just look at traits. Right. They're just looking at all the attributes.

They're looking at essentially Madden ratings on a quarterback and not watching as much. They don't put as much stock into watching film because they're, it is football. So there's 10 other guys on the field that you're playing with. So there's variables, but he also, he, he misses a lot of throws. He's got a cannon for an arm.

So he can throw it, you know, 70 yards. But it just, as far as like the eyeball test goes, I, I should, I should put a caveat out there where the commanders are looking for a quarterback. If we draft him, I'm going to be, Oh yeah. I'm going to have to walk back all these things. You guys going to trade up?

I'll help you with that. No, we're getting Lamar. Yeah. I don't know if you listened. No, he didn't, he didn't listen. You just spewed, Well, you just. Big facts about Albemba basketball. That's all you just said.

If we get him, you'll be pumped, but you would have to trade up to number one. I guess at the end of the day, this isn't like a crazy take that it's just hard to figure out like what quarterbacks to draft because it is, and it's, it's a very like 50, 50 proposition in the first round. It's more that like anyone who thinks that

only the combine matters is an idiot. And anyone who thinks that only college football matters is an idiot. There's, it's got to both have to matter. Yeah. It's really kind of where I land where how, how does a guy go from like go up to a number one in the mock draft with not having,

having played any football in the last, you know, three months. I'm going to withhold judgment on Anthony Richards until he does his pro day workout. Okay. And he has one really sexy throw. He's got the Zach Wilson. You know, he's going to have a sexy ass throw. Yeah.

And then I'm going to be all in on him. Right, right now I've, I've already fallen in love with Joe Milton. I'm already circling him. I mean, Joe Milton's got a hose. Did you see that he threw an orange 120 yards I believe it. Before the orange bowl?

I believe it. They put him on the practice field at the end of the end zone. And they said, how far can you throw an orange? The man throws an orange 120 yards. I don't need to see anything else from the guy. I want him. I just, I, yeah, yeah. Joe Milton's got an absolute,

I like watching Joe Milton play just because it reminds me of when you accidentally mashed the buttons and maddened too hard. Yeah. You just hold Y. You throw, you throw a screen pass a hundred miles an hour. Yeah. Hank, look up that video of him throwing an orange.

I, it's the most impressive thing I've ever seen on a football field. That's a big one. Yeah. That's a big statement to me. He's number one on my big board right now for next year. Yeah. Um, yeah.

So that was the only other thing I had. I mean, there's MBAs coming back. College basketball. It's a long MBA break. You think so? It felt long. It felt like Tuesday and Wednesday. I know it's always, it always, it always seems long.

I did see that me and big cat had similar takes about how to fix the NBA all star game and tie it into their contract. My idea was that one, well, you like the nets on fire. So it looks like NBA jam. That'd be sick. Oh, not the franchise. Not the, not the franchise.

They did that themselves. Two, what you should do is you should award the winning team. Every player on the winning team should get one year off their contract to become a free agent. They hit free agency one year sooner. And then that, that would incentivize them. I don't think that the, I don't want to say the O word, the governors would ever agree to that.

No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't agree to any of these ideas. Cause my idea was the dunk contest should be the winner of the dunk contest gets an all time for the rest of their career, like basically trade me to that team. And you have to happen. Or yeah, just give maybe the winning team. They all get no trade clauses.

Yeah. So they can control their own destiny. Yeah. I like that too. Yeah. Guys would compete. Are you ready for the home stretch NBA Hank? It's a lot of stick.

Yannis getting hurt. It helps you. Yeah. I mean, the East is going to be gauntlet. I think there's, there's three really good teams. And, you know, getting to the finals is going to be tough. Hopefully we play the suns. This is when the Celtics turned around last year.

So I'm excited. Why do you want to play the suns? I just want to go back to Arizona. What? Oh, really? Golf. Yeah. That's it.

It'd be a fun series. I don't want to play the, I mean, the Warriors like, I feel like the Warriors are the Celtics kind of boogeyman. So I think we could beat anyone else in the West. Warriors have to like scratch and claw to get into the real playoffs. But I don't want, I hope they don't.

A lot of disrespect being thrown at the Bucks recently. Well, 11 game winning streak. I was gonna say, well, Yannis, Yannis having a wrist injury. Definitely hurt. It's not that bad because he did, he did start and score the first two games of the all star game. You had two points. Where they just, they treated him like a make a wish kid.

Yes. And then they went back to the hoop and dunk it and then checked himself out. I've been loving the heat that it's not, you know, it's a good addition for them. Yeah. It's not. I mean, they're, they're already a good team.

They added a great, great player. What about, we haven't done, I don't think we've done this yet on the show. Let's do predictions for the NBA finals. Okay. Celtic sons. I'm going to go Bucks sons. I'm going to go Bucks.

I want to say my nuggets. How do you guys like, oh, you root against our friends, root against our friends. Blake of the years on the Celtics, you guys have no respect. No respect. That's actually a fair point. Thank you. I'm going to go.

You made a very fair point. Just remember it next time you besmirched Jared Goff's name, Kepke's name. Yeah. No, no, no. Just remember this. You hate all of our friends. Josh Allen.

Just remember the joke. Okay. JJ Watt. JJ Watt. Just remember this. So. Mr. Portnoy. What?

I'm going to say, I'm going to say sons win. This is Chris Paul's year. I mean, Chris Paul's got all the ingredients there. God damn it. Chris Paul's going to win. Congratulations to Sons. You've got Katie and more importantly, Chris Paul. This is the time where he puts it all together for sure

and wins the championship. If the Sons do win, I think we should just as a podcast right now decide that we'll have we're still on right after and then we'll just pretend this internet connection's bad. Okay. Yeah. We can't hear you.

I mean, it's got to be, the Sons are definitely going to win, right? Chris Paul. They're definitely going to win. AJ Tiddy's baby's coming out. She's going to be ready to go. I've been saying that we should get AJ Tiddy's on the podcast to do a deep dive

into what happened in that hotel room. How many dicks were sucked? Chris Paul's addicted to go to the NBA finals. Yes. Yeah. If it's not the Sons, I'm going to say, I'm going to stick with my nuggets. My nuggets over Hank Celtics.

Yeah. And that's the big, like everyone's getting pre-mad right now about Jokic winning a third straight MVP, which I think is, we looked it up last night. It's Larry Bird, Wilt and Bill Russell, I think are the only players that have won three consecutive MVPs. But people are getting pre-mad

because they're like, if he wins an MVP and they don't get to the least of conference finals, this is a sham. What, again, there's, it's a regular season award. Like that's just what it is. Remember actually, remember back in the day when they would have, they would do, they changed this probably the last 10 years

or whatever it is, they would have the MVP come out in the second round and accept their MVP and Dirk had to do it after he got bounced by the Warriors. And it was like, well, this is awkward. Yeah. Like it's a regular season award. Their finals MVP, I'll say it, means more to me than the regular MVP.

Yeah, it's like the president's trophy in hockey. Right. It's a regular season thing. Doesn't always mean that you're going to get to the finals. Doesn't always mean that you're going to win the final. He's averaging a triple double. It's insane. Well, Westbrook did too.

Yeah, but that was a little bit different. It was. He's just stat chasing. I still like my nuggets though. Yeah, so wait, what's your final prediction? I'm going to say, my heart's been with the nuggets because I've been on them for like a year and a half. Yeah, stick with them.

But I just don't see a way that Chris Paul loses. No, but you got to stick with them. OK, nuggets. Because if the nuggets make it to the finals, people will be like, but you got off. Nuggets over the box. Because like, what's the downside of the nuggets getting bounced early?

You're like, well, I'm just a rider dying guy. I'm sorry for believing too hard in my guy. Right, right. I think the altitude makes a difference. It's going to be nuggets over the box. Jake and Bill, you want to do your NBA finals prediction? Celtics Lakers. Oh, OK.

23 most important games in LeBron's career coming up. I'm going to be watching this really hawk for that load management. I will go with Warriors over Sixers. And the city of Philadelphia completes the super fact of second place. No, yeah, there's a 0% chance it's Warriors Sixers. And clip this, that's fine.

What about your hometown team, Jake? What the fuck? Yeah, what about the heat? Heat culture. Obviously, I want the heat. Sounds like you don't. What would you rather have? Well, it sounds like you definitely don't.

Jake, what would you rather have the heat make it all the way to the finals and lose? Or the Sixers beat the heat, make it all the finals and lose? I'd rather the heat go farther. Yeah, I mean, the heater, like, they're not. It's I think it's not out of it. It's Celtics box drop off heat. Heat Sixers, Cavs, Cavs, Cavs should be there.

You're stepping games behind Philly right now. If you weren't, if you were ranking contenders in the Eastern Conference with the the Cavs, not be like, I agree, Celtics box is the that's those are the two best teams. Those are the teams that I trust the most. Little step down. The Cavs have to be mentioned. Hank, the hell is this?

You were Cavs guy last year. I know they, I mean, I don't know. They got rid of their their their leader, their veteran. Yeah, Hank, on your golf vacation that you took in Arizona, did you happen to leave your wallet behind in Arizona? I did not. OK, that would be an issue for your sons. Yeah, I'm not rooting. I mean, I want the sons. I like that.

I like I've always liked Kevin Durant. I had no issue with Chris Paul. I like the sons. You did. You literally. Although I do want to go on a golf vacation. I do have in the history of this podcast. Have we ever now? I'm like gone to the location of the NBA finals.

Now I'm switching back. I'm going sons bucks again, because that would be funny if like the sons clinched before the Celtics Bucks series ends and Hank's like got my Arizona trip planned. I did. I think I talked about on the show. I accidentally in the sports book, I was looking at futures and I was looking at the Nuggets championship and then I entered that. And I was like, you know what?

I'm not going to bet them to win the championship. I'm just going to bet them to win the Western Conference Finals. Accidentally did both for a lot. So I have a big I'm just I'm just getting a cash out situation. Like I have a big Nuggets Conference Finals future and accidentally put the same amount on the Nuggets to win the championship. So no, I'm just I'm just trying to get them to like a cash out spot so I can, you know, negate some of those.

Oh, no. So you're going to be a big yoke. It's just a fraud if they get bounced in the second round. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I need them. I need them to make the Conference Finals. Yes. Bad. Yes. Memes, who do you got? Mavericks versus Nicks.

Oh, OK. Wow. I mean, I didn't see how we'll come. I like it. I like it, though. We got some we really should have just figured this out beforehand and just had like every iteration and just said all of them. Yeah. So we could clip it. Maybe we'll do that as a social clip after we'll just say every permutation. We called it. We got it.

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It is Max Houma, winner of the most tournaments in the last, what is it like 25 months? Oh, that's kind of specific. Yeah. It's what happened in 26 months. It's like, uh, what was the old Kirk Jinn, uh, MLB stats for be like, he's hit the most home runs on Thursdays after 9pm. That's, they fit me in that they, they like me on social media. So they make me seem a lot better than I am. So wait, who hit, who, who won all the tournaments 26 months ago?

Probably Ron. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So Ron's got you. Yeah. You're on a hot streak. It's good to finally have you on in person. Um, you are a good friend of the show. Do I get my shirt now that we're all together on the way? It's on the way. I think we sent it to LA. You're in Arizona. Oh yeah. So you, you probably missed it. It makes sense. We gave it to Kyrie. He was going to bring it out. Maybe it's me. Are you going to go to Dallas? Yeah. You can pick up there. Maybe it's max. Yeah. Maybe it's max. I like the hat.

We're in the positive vibes only hat. Let's start here. Do you think that, um, you need us to stop being mean to you or are we the last podcast that actually gives you the truth? Now you're the only ones to keep it real. Yeah. You're on every show now. Yeah. You're on every split. Yeah. Exactly. You are. I'm even on the couch. Yeah. Exactly. We're going to need to see some ID. That's weird that you know how that starts. Who doesn't know how that starts.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. Put it on the list. Hank, put me in max on the list. Did you skip that part? Yeah. What are we talking about? But we're going to keep, we're going to keep pushing you cause we want a win in Augusta. Yeah. That's all that matters. That's it. Road to Augusta. Is that it? Is that like, if you were to pick one, one tournament to win, it's Augusta. That's not it. I'll take any of them. But yeah, I mean that, that in the open are my two favorite events. But yeah, the Masters is special. Plus, I don't know.

There's, it's an interesting place. It's just like the city of Augusta has nothing except like Augusta national. But ever since, you know, I played my first two years there were like the COVID year. So it wasn't like a lot of, it wasn't a lot of fans, like was kind of dull. I don't think Tiger played one of the years. And then last year was like my first real one felt like, and you're, you start to get what I, what all the hype's about. But like I said, I'll take any of them. But that would be, that would be definitely way up on that list. You thought about what your, your champion's dinner would be?

I have. And that's my promise. I don't have like some of these guys have, all these guys are so damn rich now too. They're like, oh, you know, I got the chef from my favorite restaurant. And I'm like, I don't, who meets the chef at their favorite fucking restaurant? Like I just eat it and then leave and tell my friends about how good it was. So I don't know what I would do. You know, I'm half Jewish. So maybe I'd throw in like my mom's matzabal soup. Ooh, that would be good. Yeah, I'm not sure how everybody would feel about it, but I think I'm going to be

a very boring, they, everyone always does like a steak, a fish. I'm gonna have to call somebody to figure out what kind of wine is real good. I'm not, I'm not really sure what I would do, but that's a problem I would fucking love to have. It would be very funny if you served the matzabal soup and like Fuzzy Zeller was like, how the fuck did he get in here? We don't like, what the fuck is going on around here? So you're like 50% happy that Kyrie didn't go to the late percent. Oh yeah. Maybe 51%. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what did you think? So we're going to run this probably in a week or two, but this is a timeless tweet.

You're King LeBron James tweeting, maybe it's me. It's as pathetic as it gets for the Lakers right now. Do you feel pathetic? You should. Yeah, I always. The funny part about like people today on the range, you know, they're like, man, Kyrie like didn't go late. I'm like, was he going to fucking fix us? I don't think we're one piece away here. So no, it wasn't super devastating. Obviously Kyrie and I have our background. He likes movies I don't like as much. So it wasn't like devastated. But now it's exciting because like you just never know with some of these players like Pat Bevs on our team

and like him and Russell Westbrook seem like they hated each other. Now they like each other, I think. So that's exciting. So getting to watch like the car accident. I feel like this could be a car accident. I mean, just give it a week. Yeah. You just never know. The best part is it was going so well. He's like, yeah, fuck this. I can't do it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. It's exciting for sure. I read something. I actually just googled your name earlier. That's the prep that we do on this show sometimes. You just signed up to play in Tiger Woods Monday Night Golf League. Yeah. Can you walk me through what that

means? I know it sounds like it's golf on a Monday night. You so far so good. Okay. Him and Rory are building like a small basketball court like arena where there'll be live like people like live there and then it'll be broadcast live. So it's basically a simulator golf league. So they, I don't know who is doing. I think this company called Full Swing is doing the technology, but you'll hit and you'll play like an alternate shot. It's six teams of three alternate shot in the simulator, but they also have like the putting and chipping and all that. So I guess it's pretty extensive stuff. I wouldn't understand until I get there,

but it'll be obviously mic'd up. I'm bringing some flavor in. I do believe that some of these guys are, they seem funnier because everyone laughs with their jokes. Yeah. Like I'm still up for debate. If Tiger's super funny or I just laugh a lot. I haven't got comfy enough with them and dice like was that actually a good joke or is it just Tiger and I got a giggle? Well, I mean, because we do have to keep it real with you, are you a little nervous because remember you like basically cried at the British open because you got to stand next to Tiger Woods and then you missed the cut and he like bodied you

mentally. I think I said some things leading up to it. I would have asked at least I beat him. Yeah, you did, but you missed the cut. And we said that that was going to be, you were going to let the moment get too big. So are you a little nervous? Like you're going to show up this Monday night league with Tiger and you're going to become a puddle again. I wasn't until you just mentioned it. So now I might need to make some phone calls. Yeah. That's going to be tricky. I will say though, that there is no cut, which is okay. That's good for you. That's great. That's a perfect spot.

All right. Wait. So can I, can I give you just one thing now that we're in person? Yeah. Kaleb started this shit about the, you know, work like balance. You never make cuts. I think I've only missed cut once in like the last, I'm going to jinx my shit out of the Phoenix open. Don't bet me for like six or seven months. And I still get the, Oh, look at you playing golf on a Sunday. I'm like, all right, man. I do it. Listen, we're storyline. I like it. We just keep with the story. I mean, we, we still, we're waiting for Gonzaga to make a final four. It's going to be sick.

Dude, I, I wasn't even born. I don't think they only made their last final four. I still think Peyton Manning hasn't won a Super Bowl. Yeah. There's certain takes you can't get off. You guys have, I listened to this way too often. I told you guys, I was listening on my way over to the Josh Dumel one. And it is weird how some of you guys, your guys takes are like in my head. Cause I'll be like, has Peyton Manning won a fucking Super Bowl? Yeah. No, he hasn't. He hasn't. Think about it.

I'd say it's him, then Dan Reno. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. So all right. The Monday night golf league, do you think Charlie will be there? Can you make an intro? He's a huge fan of ours. We've been, I actually did see that. That was pretty cool. We're big Charlie guys. We're like, Charlie's next up. He's going to come and beat your brains in. Like just so you know, what, what a unique take that Tiger Woods's son is going to be really good at golf. No one else has said no. Charlie's going to be better than Tiger. Yeah. Better than Tiger.

Better than Tiger and Jack combined. He's going to be better than you. Yeah. Well, okay. No, so I fair. Let's just get this out here right now because, you know, we consider you a friend and we love having you on. But if Charlie, even like bats an eyelash at us, you're gone. See, if I imagine that this, this Monday night league, if like Charlie gets the night off of school and he's like, you know, dad, I want Max's spot. I got, I'll just be gone,

which is actually pretty exciting. And we'll caddy for him. We will sell out completely. That is your guys caddy spot is where you don't actually have to carry a bag. You can just sit there and drink. Yeah. We can just roast the other competitors. Yeah. Cadding in an indoor golf simulator league. Yes. Sign me up. That sounds like a good sign. I need you guys to do that one night just to see how many minutes Tiger let's go on. Let you, you're in the league. Get us on your bag day. Yeah.

So they finally signed me and then first day. Hey, so that one request. It is kind of crazy at what, what golf or dimpleheads, Parvards, what are we calling ourselves? Parvards. Parvards are good. We're so in tune with golf, like we discovered you out of nowhere. And now we discovered Charlie Woods. Yeah, it's pretty cool. We know what we're talking about. You guys are molding the future of the game. I have a funny story about that Parvards thing. Also sidebar, pretty cool getting called a pervert every fucking week in front of my wife

and my family and people have to explain it. But I was in Nashville this last weekend. And this guy walks by me and he goes, Hey, you Max Homa? And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, you want to pardon my take later? And I'm like, I don't know what the fuck that means. And then, and then he, and all my friends are there and they're like laughing and he goes, he goes, couldn't be the real Max Homa if you don't know what pardon my take is. I'm like, no, I know what it is. And that's a weird thing to say. And I was like, I just don't know what we would do about that.

And I was like, are you trying to do an hour long podcast? I'm fucking busy. And then I see him maybe an hour later back on Broadway. And he walks by and he goes, Hey, he goes, he goes, I realized what I was supposed to say. And I'm like, what? And he goes, pervert. I said, what the fuck just happened? He owned you. Yeah. No, when you did, uh, we're still his life advice and you guys were talking about like hecklers. And you're like, I like when people say something original.

And in the back of my head, I was like, he's definitely saying that like all the eight of us just need to come up with the only one Joe can't stand. My catty Joe can't stand, uh, when people just yell, everyone yells big cat says hi. And it's not because it's the like what it is. It's like a very, you know, that, that that's nice. Like that's a nice plain one. It's every sound to every single person. Yeah. So we, he always says that he's like, it's a thousandth time and there's no fucking chance big cat told him to tell. And he doesn't go on Twitter ever.

So he'll sometimes ask me like, did big cat tweet today? Like tell max hi. Now I'm going to fuck. That's fine. I'm not going to hear any more than I heard. I think with the pervert, we just got to keep hammering the pervert. That is like to just get called a pervert. It's pretty cool. You have to have like an explain, you have to have like a card to hand to people. Be like, this is why they just call me a pervert. There's an explanation. Here's an explanation. Yeah. Well, I am Italian. I mean, there's a really easy way to, to fix all that.

And that's just to win the masters and then everybody will just be like, well, he's not a pervert anymore. He's masters champion. Yeah. Those are the two stages of golf. Yeah. I don't imagine that's how that's going to end. Yeah. It's saved Tiger's career. Yeah. I think I'll just be called the most perverted masters champion. No, Tiger. Again, Tiger. Yeah. That's fine. Listen, we're in the same boat.

We don't bash Tiger anymore because his son loves us. He clearly don't. So yeah, I never say anything bad about it. We think about Charlie is the direct product of Tiger being a pervert. Yeah. But we also, it's true. I do have a kid, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.

He's sliding up. You've proven you're a pervert. So you do actually maybe have to ask Charlie, like, does he like, because there's a theory that he might like. Do you think I talked to Charlie? No, yeah, you do. No, you do. Yeah, this is it.

Can you send him this message? There's a theory that he maybe likes, pardon my tape, because we bust his dad's balls. So we need to know if we need to go further. You know, so find that out. He just texted me back. He said, he said, yes. Okay, all right.

Push the limits. You know, you need a rival. You need like, back in the day, there were, you know, Tiger had like a thousand different rivalries. You guys might be my rival. We might be, yeah. Yeah, we are. We are.

Yeah. Should I throw a tee at you? Should I bet on you? Have you ever? I root for my bets to lose. Yeah. Because I'm like, do I want money or do I want a bash max? Bashing is horrifying.

Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. I'm with that. Is that like crossing a major line in golf if somebody throws a tee at you? It's on site. I think the lawsuit parts are definitely like a bit ahead of the tee. But I mean, I guess I didn't know.

I've never had somebody throw a tee right at me and he fucking rifled that thing. Yeah, he did. That was the sad part. The fucking video was so, he just like dropped it. Just like tossed it. I had to read about this all morning. And this is what it was.

But you know, I think it starts with the lawsuits pretty far up the list. I put tees, probably like, we're pretty benign sport. It's probably still second place, but it's just way further. The lawsuit on Thanksgiving and the lawsuit on Christmas. Like he timed that out. He might send you one on Hanukkah. Yeah.

Do you feel lame not getting a lawsuit? Like you kind of suck. Yeah, that actually is kind of funny. You're left out of the party. Yeah, he's just one day. I want to be like the bad boy. Like I want to, yeah, I got subpoenaed. Yeah, yeah.

What are you going to do about it? You know, or so they have rules. You have to wear you have to wear pants when you go off. Can you wear jeans? No, no denim. No denim. They're anti jinkos. Wow.

Because that would be really like wear some like serious, like cool old school skater jeans. You're instantly screech red. I definitely probably still have some. Yeah. When do you think people are going to turn on you? And will we get credit for being the first? It'll definitely, yeah, you guys will lead the mob with the fucking fire.

It'll happen. I think, honestly, I think maybe when I do, if and when I do win a major, because I feel like then people will like, people always start to hate you when you start playing. Well, like you always get like a weird crowd of people who's like, no, that guy's not that fucking good. He's an asshole. And it's like, well, I feel like you loved him like a month ago.

And now, so maybe that'll be it. But that will be another thing. I'll be, it'll be cool. I'll be cool people hating me if I have won a major and I could just shit on you guys all the time. But I'm not sure. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to push them. If it could be any day now, it could be tomorrow.

I actually don't think people are going to ever turn on you. Thank you. I truly, I truly believe that you like you are refreshing for golf and you're fun to listen to. And yeah, you might do too many podcasts, but that's okay. Everyone has their faults. You need faults. Yeah, right.

Exactly. But no, I do think like, I would imagine you've had, have you had like sponsors reach out like trying to get in the max home of business? Yeah, but I tell them all the time that my feedback to the part of my take podcast, this is too damn high to be accepting any more money. So that my checking account is closed. Yeah.

So all right. So let me ask the question this way. When do you think you're going to get so rich? You stop answering our text messages. Never your guys. This may be Will's. Okay. When I saw Will earlier, we're doing something tomorrow.

Yeah. I already have that. I'm not going to spoil, but I have an entire idea that is going to be just one long running joke that he'll probably hate by the end of it. Oh yeah. Well, he might not get it. You know that's probably about. He's not.

Yeah. Which would be better. He's a football player. It would be fucking perfect if he didn't. Yeah. Do you get, do you get recognized a lot now? Yeah. Like outside of a golf environment?

Yeah. Going back to just the guy screaming pervert in my face in the middle of Nashville. Yeah. So yeah. When did that start? Far too long ago considering people, I had too big of a fan base for how not great I was at golf. So it would be even weirder to have people want to take pictures with you and then every one of your friends be like, why the fuck do they want to take a picture with you?

And I'm like, because they liked my tweet one time like back in the day, they two agree about some dumb shit I've thought up. So yeah, it's it's definitely growing. But I don't know. I still like to at least put myself out there a little bit. Do you think that that's had an impact actually on your golf game? The feeling that you're super well known for being like the funny golf tweeter and you're like shit.

Now I got to actually get my old running joke that's still true. Is I just always want to be as good at golf as I was at Twitter. So I'm trying to like level those two out a little bit. So that yeah, it's definitely motivating. You also do get, you know, I am like lucky that it doesn't matter on social media what I do. People are always like pretty nice to me, but there's always a few guys in there, of course, who will say some shit about like, you know, he sucks, not even that good. And that is definitely a motivating factor when you write something very benign about

like, hey, you know, the sun is quite warm today. Right. And then everyone's like, oh, Max, like so fucking great. What a great point. And then one guy's like, oh, yeah, well, you still fucking suck at golf. It's like, oh, shit. All right. Well, I can either stop tweeting or I can just get better at golf.

And I don't really want to stop tweeting. So I'm just going to get a little bit better at this game. Well, I think you did it. Like it's interesting because if you look at your career and what you've been able to do the last 25 months and like you are legitimately a very good golfer like you are. What are you top 15 in the world? 12. 12.

So you're 12th in the world right now. That's crazy. I think if you were that good right at the beginning, you never would have tweeted and you never would have shown your personality because like golfers that are that good right away and they're winning right away, you never get to know them because they become like so corporatized like right away. I also think like, you know, like comedians, a lot of them say like they're depressed. So I think a lot of funny starts with like a lot of sadness.

So most of my tweets started with just like constantly having the weekend off to think. And then I would probably mask all the sadness with like, hey, how about that sun being so hot? That would like it would be like, oh man, this guy is so relatable. And I was because like I didn't make very much money and I had a lot of weekends to tweet. So I was I was feel like I was right in the sweet spot. But yeah, I agree. I honestly don't know. Some people ask me like, what would you tell a college kid coming out about like what they

should do with social media? And I'm just kind of like, fuck, maybe like don't go on it. Yeah. Because it is it is it's sad. Like the whole reason for it has been great like for everybody like social media is awesome. But there's so much of it that is just a cesspool of like angry people. I'm sure you guys get this too. But like, I have never really had somebody come up to me and say anything that mean.

And like sometimes I have to remind myself part of honestly getting like recognized in public and and and taken pictures or whatever has having that happened more often has helped because I think like sadly, you'd only notice the shit people say. And when I realized I'm like, dude, everyone is so nice and like personable. And they just like there's fans of golfer, whatever. And it's just like, man, that's that's like refreshing because it is weird. These people like they look up to you guys like you guys are like a big deal to them. And there's still be people in there saying like, oh, Barcell's stupid.

And they only do X, Y and Z. And it's like no one ever actually would say that because they don't act. I don't even think they actually believe it. They just like they have to be different and and hard. I don't know. It's it's it's like truly it sounds cliche, but it's hurt people hurt people. Like whenever someone tweets really mean shit at me, I'm like, like this guy is going through something like I've actually reached like there's been a couple

of times where I've I remember there's one kid who was like tweeting mean shit to me at like one in the morning. I was like laying in bed and I was just scrolling Twitter. And when it's like that late, you can you see the like four tweets. And I went to his timeline and he was tweeting like really depressing shit. And I hit him up. I was like, dude, are you okay? And he was like, yeah, I'm not.

Like I'm not like like like that. And it kind of like put a face to it where it's like, yeah, like this makes sense. Like if you're angrily tweeting at someone at one in the morning, you probably have some shit going on in your life. It's not going great. So I have a little sympathy for that is a good point. It's old, but it's also almost always the political activists on Twitter. Yeah, that's also that man.

That's nice of you to do that. I've never thought to do that. Yeah, he did. I actually because I get it. I mean, it does make sense that you're I mean, most people even in real life, like if you're an angry person, it's usually because like some, you know, your wife just yelled at you. So you're like the yelling, whatever it is, the thing from how I met your mother,

the fucking yelling train. And it was just like, I don't know, man. I think it's a great tool. I think it's also like I'm fucking 32 years old. I grew up on my phone. It's fucking fun reading all your guys like tweets and sports takes from all over the world. Like I love all that stuff. So it's like, I'm not going to get off of it, but it is so wild how people just decide

like this is the time like this is the time I'm going to say some shit that I would fucking never say. Yeah, I'm trying to really hurt this person's feeling. I think sometimes it's people that just they need an outlet to get some takes off. So they'll like tweet like, fuck you, Max. I fucking hate you. You fucking suck. And they'll put their phone down and go back to their daughter's birthday party. Yeah.

And they're like super happy in that moment. Right. There's my therapy. But then they meet you face to face and they'd be like, Oh, Max, I love you. It's just like, whatever, I need to type these words in this box. It's going to make me feel good for whatever reason. The creed they need to do the creed thing. Like all these fucking angry people just got to type it into word and send it to Ryan.

Yeah, right. We could figure that we could figure out the anger problem this world real fast. But I'm telling you this. So to finish that story, I think I've told this before, but I so better helps great sponsor of ours. I told the kid after he was tweeting me mean stuff and I would DM him. I was like, dude, I'll buy you a month of better help go and he it like was a success. He was like, he hit me up like two months later. He was like, dude, I feel a lot better.

Like that's really sorry. It was like, yeah, this is that we shouldn't interact like this. You know what I mean? Like interacting anonymously online is probably not healthy for that is that's actually really, that's really cool. I need to go to the other three million people. Yeah, but it made me feel like, hey, if this is what this case was, it probably happens. Yeah, for sure.

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If it's nice, that's fine. I would be so upset if all of a sudden you guys basically did to me what you're doing to Charlie Woods and just like... No, you'll never talk about it. You'll never be Charlie Woods in our eyes. What are we doing to Charlie Woods? We've been Charlie Woods fans for 13 years. 13 years.

Yeah, 13 years. This is entire life. We have been rooting for Charlie Woods. You know there is a Charlie Woods Twitter account, but it's not... It's obviously not him. Yeah, we run it. Oh, do you? Because it actually would make sense.

It is fucking hilarious. We're like, talk shit about people all the time. You got to look it up over this because it is really funny. You should start a Twitter account, Charlie Woods Goat, and just like put all these stats up about how he's the best of all time at his age. He should. That's not creepy, is it? Yeah.

How old is he? 13, I think. Yeah, that's not creepy. You guys would know. Yeah. Charlie Woods and Gwen Miniana. We're just... Those are our next stop.

Oh, wow. Another... Oh, they're on that. No, you got to get on them young. You got to start... I don't think that guy's gonna be pretty good at basketball. He's gonna be the best of all time. Really?

And I'm a Jordan guy, but I'll concede when Miniana's... He's... He already might be the best of all time. He's the best prospect. Wow. I love that you guys are gonna be in my town the week LeBron breaks the scoring record. Wait, what town? In Phoenix.

Oh, in Phoenix? But in LA, we're not gonna be... I get to feel your guy's sadness. I personally don't care. Yeah, I know this guy. He's a stack compiler. Right. And when you don't go to college, which is not something we should be aspiring for,

we should have people get educated in this country. Let's try to look at the odds that he's gonna make that jump. What college when Miniana's going to? When Miniana, I think... He got studied abroad. Yeah. International education. Yeah.

They do differently in France. Yeah. Don't... Listen, you can't change the goalposts on me here. LeBron didn't go to college. That's why he has that many points. If he was studying, he wouldn't have that many points. But I mean, it's not...

Karim was what, one and done? Oh, no, he went all four years. Yeah, he went all four years that you see. MJ, I think he was three years. So, hmm, that's interesting. Isn't that interesting? And also LeBron might do steroids. I don't know.

Maybe make that the headline. Max Homa asked, did LeBron do steroids? That would be the headline of the YouTube. All jokes aside, could you imagine if LeBron would have played like three years in college, what that would look like? It would be awesome. It would have been so much fun. What would have been the coolest thing?

I wish someone would do this if LeBron had just gone to Akron for one year and just see like how far a talent like that could take back school. Like imagine if Akron goes to the final four with LeBron. They beat Gonzaga to the final four. Yeah, right. They get to the final four before Gonzaga. Yeah, that would be crazy.

I mean, even like, you know, the Ball Brothers, they went to Chino Hills High and like, you know, that's basically where I'm from-ish. And so my friends would like, I've had friends go to their games to watch like the family. And they'd be like, dude, we got here at so and so time and like there's fucking thousand people for this high school gym just trying to get in.

It's like, I don't know if you've ever been to the Drew League, but that's how going to the Drew League is. To the high school and Compton, and it's just like you would never really go there and you show up. We went to a morning game and apparently Hardin, CP3 and Westbrook were coming through that night. And we were like, man, I don't know if I'm going to stay for nine hours. And we left and the guys like, yeah, you never get fucking back in this gym.

Like there's going to be so many people here. And it's just like crazy. So it'd be fun to see like, you know, not like Duke, not like Kansas where you got these big arenas, to see like a, to see what the turnout would be would be nuts. Yeah. Yeah. When do golfers peak? When do we peak?

Yeah. Is there like, is there like a 17 year old golfer out there that's got all the tools? There is like an 18 year old kid that's real, real good. Akshay Bhatia. But he's been, he's been pro for like maybe he's 19 out of like two, three years. It's getting younger and younger. They just did a stat on a, on the top 15 in the world in golf right now for men.

The average age is like 26. And I'm the third oldest. Whoa. That's weird. I feel like for a long time golf was like a middle-aged man's game. You peaked in at about 33, 34. I'm just an old school man. I'm a traditionalist. Yeah.

I hit my stride when I got a three in front of my age. You're building a sustainable game. One that you can play. Like have you had to change your swing because you're like, well, I'm crushing the shit out of the ball, but I won't be able to do this for six, seven years. No, that, I think that's also why I don't feel old yet. It's cause like my bodies hasn't broken down.

But that's what's scary is if these kids are that good when they're 22. And like, I was thinking about this the other day. I was like, man, in four years, let's say I'm 36. I was like, am I still going to be fucking like working at it like this? Cause if I slow down, I'm already like scratching to like stay up with these some, some of these kids, but it's like a very 12. Yeah, but I'm just, but I work my ass off. Like I, I, I, I outwork the 20 year olds.

The problem is that they have, they have a lead on me, you gotta think the mental game. Cause remember we had you on, I think it was like maybe six months ago, and we talked about like the changes you've made and how the mental game will like the, the last 25 months is a lot. The mental game, like that has to be an advantage compared to the young kids. Because wouldn't you say that like, they're also dumb still. Yeah, right.

But wouldn't you say during your twenties, like the mental game was, you probably weren't great at it. Yeah. My mental game was just getting beers later, like tucking that away, tweeting on Friday nights. Yeah, I definitely, that is an advantage. I definitely spent interesting, my good personal friend, Aaron Rodgers, it was telling me a couple of years ago. Sandbagger.

He's a sandbagger. Why does everybody care? He's, you said yourself that sandbaggers are pieces of shit and should go to jail on the recital podcast. I thought I said prison, but yeah. The, I don't remember what I was saying. The mental game. Oh yeah, mental game is important.

Yeah. Yeah. So wait, when did Aaron tell you? Just like what, like he was helping me one time. I was asking, I was like, how the fuck do I get better than so and so? And he's like, go find what they're not good at, be so significant, like make that your strength. And then, and then like that's how you'll like create an advantage.

And what's funny is you get higher and higher and up and it's just like, people don't have big strengths. And I can't like quantify how good someone's mental game is. But that is becoming like a thing. I'm seeing that like, it might not be something you can put a number to, but it's a noticeable difference when I'm out there, when I'm at home, like confidence does go a long way. And, and I think some people, like just in, in life have that like fake confidence.

We all know those people like. Billy. They say, Billy, no, Billy's delusional. Billy's is like, he's like clinically. He was like, he should, he would be like diagnosed with being confident. I'm not sure. So, so, but like mine is like true because I've gone from like zero confidence, like some, so like, I know mine's like genuine confidence.

So I feel like that helps where some of people you'll probably meet and you're like, oh, that guy's so confident. And to the same thing as the Twitter guy is like, man, fuck, maybe he's not. Like this is masking it. So I think mine is cool because like I do have a foundation based off of a bunch of shit of no confidence, hitting the ball bad, all this stuff. So that when I do play, while I feel like I own all of it, I feel like I've heard athletes talk about like when you go through swing changes,

when you go through struggles with your shot in basketball or something, like once you like have to relearn how to do it, if you can make it better, you start to know, hey, I'm doing X. I know exactly how to not do that or do that better. And that has helped me because I feel like I'm like learning all of these things, which has been like an advantage for sure. So like in just in terms of like how your confidence in mental game has grown, is it as simple as bad shot?

You're able to just overcome it right away? A little bit, it's ever changing, but I would say like the general crux of the idea, I guess would be that I need to put more value on how many good shots I hit. And I think that's hard. When you play, I said this when I first turned pro and what really like fucked me up for a while and like sent me down a rabbit hole was I went on to the driving range. And I don't mean like we just won. It's like a call these like metaphors.

And I went on and I was just like, oh man, I would see so and so hit a ball. And I'm like, fuck, man, like I need to hit it like that. And I see somebody chip. I'm like, God dang, I got to chip it like that. I got to put it like that. These guys are so good at that. But I'm looking at like the three guys who are the three best at those things. You absolutely do not need to be the best at every area of the game to be successful.

So I'm chasing something that I know like that that was unattainable to be that good. Honestly, but besides Tiger, Tiger's the only person in history that's been the best at like four to five things in golf. Like it's it's super impossible, except maybe for Charlie, I guess, to your guys point. So it's like, it's like now, I don't know. That's the tough part about like the youth come up is you don't know yet what great golf is. And then you start to play and you're like, fuck, man, I've been like,

it's been here the whole time. I'm just like chasing something that's not really real. And it's helpful because it's motivating, but it's not helpful because it's not realistic. And you might already if you ever make it in any area of your life, like you're already doing something good, just build like be the best you push push that as far as you can. I'm not going to ever like hit a driver like Rory McRoy. It's it way further than me hire all these things.

But I can I can do things within myself to get the ball in the hole the same amount of times he does. And that's kind of the game. Yes. I mean, that's it's a very healthy perspective. It sounds like you've you've learned that by just knowing that all the work that you put in, that nothing that you're doing is a fluke. Yeah, that gives you an advantage.

And that's hard. I mean, that imposter syndrome, like I have it a billion percent. But you hear so many people do Josh Dumel on your guys podcast. Like that's he's he's literally preaching imposter syndrome. Skye is a really good actor. He's incredibly hot. And very like he's like, man, I just don't know if I could be an actor.

Right. It's like, I think they could just put a fucking picture of you up there for an hour and a half. And there'd be at least be a turnout of women. Yeah. That would be like, fuck, this is a good movie. Yeah. And guys, they'd be like, this is my new favorite movie. So I don't know.

I think that a lot of that just kind of comes from just a natural thing. But there's again, there's positive that it makes you work really hard because you're scared. It's always going to go away. But part of it is like, you know, the whole Kobe Bryant stuff, like how we talk about he puts in all these hours that when he plays the game, he can turn his brain off and just play it. Right. And it's like, I do those things and then I get in the game or on the course. And I think to myself, it feels different today.

And it's like, dude, just at some point, like my putting coach had the best, one of the better things I've had a coach tell me on Saturday morning before the final round of farmers, my my putting stroke, it didn't feel good Friday. And it didn't feel very good Saturday while I was warming up. And I text him a video. I said, does this look OK? And all he wrote back was it looks plenty good enough to make a lot of putts today. Like just go fucking putt.

Right. It was weird. I was talking about it today. I was like, it's weird how I needed that. But like, I wanted everything to feel perfect and to be perfect. And what I've worked on with my sports psychologist that for the last couple of months is like, we've been talking about winning ugly. Like I'm looking at it as exciting for a day where my shit feels terrible.

And I can still be like, all right, I'm still beating your ass. And it's like, that's fun. But I am not I've never been good at that. Because I think, you know, in the back of my mind, oh, it's a fluke. Like today's the day it's gone. It's over. It's gone forever. And like catching that catching yourself doing that.

That's that would be the confidence to be like, OK, I heard myself say it. She always tells me she's like, thoughts can be thoughts and they can just move away. But if I catch that thought, I'm like, oh, no. It's like, no, no, you don't just it. That's your that's like, that's your crazy side saying that's it. That's the asshole tweeting the thing at you. You don't need to fucking take any stock in it. You you just I mean, you just explained why your mental game has become like gone so far

is like that thought of I can win this without feeling perfect. You need to know that because we all have bad days where it's like you can still go out there and and do your best a day. And then usually the next day you feel better, right? And it's you start to feel back to normal. But I mean, every day shit, like some days with my kid, I'm like, like off. And it's just like I like grabbing for the diaper. I'm like doing things out of order.

And I'm like, I don't put stock into it because it's right. It feels more mindless. But when you're doing your your own thing, it's like it gets it gets scary. But it's it's also I think why some people make it and why some people don't is like self-awareness and to me in in sports, especially is a big deal because you need to be in your head without fucking up your head. That's I mean, it's a great message. It's very profound.

We're going to distill this all down to Max Homa credits. Aaron Rodgers for fixing his golf swing. Perfect. It's like a felon. He'd throw another jail with him. He'd throw a different type of tea at you. Yeah. If you're picking up when I'm putting down.

Would you ever take ayahuasca? Like let's say you had the yips. Are we allowed to use the Y word? I don't know. I don't know. I just got the whole shit. If you get the yips, are you is would you take ayahuasca to fix it? Does it fix it?

Probably. Dude, then fuck yeah. You know what? You know what? If you ever get the yips, here's what you we can be your sports psychologist for a second. If you ever get the yips, just think about how much we'll be laughing at you. Yeah. And that will get you out of it because if you got the yips, oh my god, it would be.

I would be like, it would be like cancel all my plans. Tough day for me. I have to sit here and watch Max have the yips. That'd be a tough day for me. I would immediately call you and say, can I have Billy's job? I'm out. I think that's when Billy tweets the very disturbing animal video. Yeah.

That's what I needed. Punch me right in the face. You'd see me walking on the fairway and look at the video right before I hit every shot. No, that's the Harambe video. That's when he drops that. Yeah. Oh, he's been waiting. Yeah.

Another banger. Holstering it. How many times have you done ayahuasca? Ayahuasca is zero times. I don't think I ever would. It scares me, actually. You don't look like you'd be scared of it. I'm 100% scared of ayahuasca.

He's not a drug guy. I'm not a drug guy. I ate cardboard and guitar. That's as close as I'll come to taking ayahuasca. How was that high? It was actually a really, really awful time to choose to do acid for the first time. You're in a foreign country where drug use is punished by beheading. You're around 70,000 strangers.

Your phone doesn't work and you're being videotaped. And you can't watch the football game. Yeah, and I couldn't watch the Bill's game. That checks off like the entire, that's a clean sweep of places that you don't want to be when you're doing it. For not a drug guy, it seems like you have to go out of your way to do something so dumb. Well, I am not actually a drug guy. It just so happens that every time I do hard drugs, it's on camera.

I do my hard drugs off camera. That's why I can skirt it. So I'm like, I've been unfairly, but yet quite fairly pegged as the drug guy. Yes, you get it, but it's not, it's not you. Yeah, I do have an actual golf. I have a suggestion. Yeah, go ahead. You don't have to do it on camera, man.

Yeah, that's true. But it'd be a lot cooler if I did. That's a fair point. I have a serious golf question for you. Can you give us your top three? Fifth majors. Yeah. The Genesis Invitational, the Farmers Insurance Open, and the Fortinet Chain.

Oh, why did you pick those three? Interesting. Oh, shit. Man, I got a lot of majors. Yeah, I got a lot of majors. I guess we can stop joking about that one now. Yeah, that's the max slam. Clear.

Yeah, that is. You win three. I dare somebody to not only play in all three of those, but win all of them. You're probably the only person to win those three tournaments in it. And was that a calendar year or was that 25 months? Yeah, 25 months. 25 months. Yeah, that'll be that.

That might be my new running joke. Yeah, just 25 months. If you could win those three in 25 months. Yeah. Fuck, man. That's the slam. I'll get you a jacket. Are you, do you need tips for the US Open after I shot a 72 at Shuttercock?

Yeah. That was pretty impressive. It was really impressive. People don't, people always sweeten me that it's fucking not real. It's crazy. It's like, I responded the other day and they're like, you know, he didn't do that. I'm like, how? No.

Yeah, he did. I don't know why you would immediately talk about haters. They just can't admit it. Here's the problem. I post all my scores every time real. People thought it was fake because two weeks later I shot a 136. And they're like, we just talked about good days and bad days. Right.

I watched one YouTube video screwed me up 60 strokes. I mean, I did the same thing I've done. I've literally done the day after the farmers, I went and played golf and I shot 140. Right. I just shot 66 today with it. There's just a fucking wing kept screwing with me and I didn't have my caddy. Yeah. Yeah.

Happens. Another serious golf question. What's your favorite club? It's hard hitting shit. Shit. Hawkeyes on is pretty fun. DJ? I got a seven wood.

It's my favorite because I love hitting it, but it's also funny because most people are like, you know, why the fuck would anybody have a seven wood? It's like, that's used to be back in the day for like the old man. But it's made a revival in this game. So I like it for both the both the practicality of it and for the content. Yeah. Okay. I like that.

All right. So I have one last question. Roback question promo code take. I know you wear Roback on the course, even though it's not your sponsor. RHOBACK.com promo code or two shirts. Yeah. Or two shirts promo code take 20% off joggers, polos, Q zips, everything. What are we realistically thinking about Augusta this year?

I'm going to make a bet on you. I think you're like 33 to one right now, kind of disrespectful. Oh, I was going to say that was really fucking nice. No, that was just, I thought it was, I was like, damn, that's just are we feeling confident? Did you make the cut last year? Yes. Okay. We almost had the cut slam.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. That's right. That's right. You did. But then Tiger bodied you because you just were like a little baby.

Quick, quick side on that. He played behind me on Sunday and I finished and he beat me by one and there was like a long walk from like 18 to scoring. And I was there with my family and I turned around because Tiger's walking up and he is, it was the biggest limp I've ever seen in my entire life. And I was like, fucking that guy just beat me, man. I was like, and then, and then, and then I, no, it was fucking accurate. It was big Ben.

No. But yeah. So realistically this year for the masters, I will say, I am, I mean, you can never know if you're just going to show up for one week and win it, but I am confident. I've had a very, I've had a pattern throughout my career of like being a slow learner. And as much as it was like a funny joke and I like, I indulged in the joke, making the cut in it and making the cut and a couple others for the year, like getting the taste of what four rounds in a major feels like at the PGA where I did play well.

There was a part on the back nine where I thought if I like went full blackout, like I could sneak up to like the top leaderboard and at least play some of those holes down the stretch with like some kind of major pressure. Like I do think it helped. Augusta fits my game. It is just a big, it's a big like spot to be in. Okay, you got this. A big spot, but I do feel comfortable.

My golf game will be there. Yes. I know that. So I just have to go make sure that I do, I do the little things right that week. But again, part of it, like I said, I'm just a fucking slow learner. So I just needed, I needed four rounds. All right. I'm picking up what you're saying.

We're going to go top 10 this year. So we'll bet top 10, not win. I think I think if I understand, if Max plays his best golf and John Rom plays like his worst golf and Charlie Woods can't eligibility be in the tournament. Yeah. Yeah. I think you can definitely win. You would you say that at your best peak Max

Max to the max you could win at Augusta. Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah man. Okay. So just do that. Yeah.

Do that. Was that so hard? You just won right now. Yeah. You just won the tournament. I am a fire my psychologist. Yeah. We never even mentioned that one.

Yeah. No, listen, let us be the first to congratulate Max Oma on his master's championship. Thank you guys. What are we having for dinner? Lots of all soup, baby. I love them. We're going to get that thing ready. All right.

Well, Max, thank you. I think you're going to roast some golf swings right now. Best of luck. We're rooting for you genuinely. So we'll say the nice thing right now. I'm genuinely rooting for you. I genuinely like you as a person and consider you as a friend. And then we'll cut that part.

And Max, you're not making any conscious. Oh, I have one request. Yeah. Do we have the lottery ball thing here? No. We don't. We already did it. Can I?

We'll FaceTime you next time we're in studio. Just keep the number 25 running and I want it to be Hank. I want 25 to hit before Hank hits. You're going to beat him. Yeah. So excited. OK. Awesome.

I don't. I'm worried for you guys. Oh, you guys can. No, no, no. 25, 25. 25. You're going to win. You get cash.

Can't wait. Yeah. I don't want. No, no, no. We'll add it to your career earnings. OK. Perfect. Yeah.

23 million. Oh, wow. God damn it, Jake. Yeah, this will be perfect. Yeah. Jake, no, this is coming out, right? Two weeks from now. I just won on accident.

You just won by accident. All right. So for people who understand where we taped the lottery ball machine for two weeks, because we're not in the office, Max has no idea, because we taped it just between us. We didn't say anything. He just said he wants 25. In two episodes from now, 25 will be revealed as a number.

You won by accident. Do you see how fucking easy that is? God, do you know any hard games? 25. There it is, right there. February 12th, 25. Idiot. You won the Super Bowl lottery machine.

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Visit Pringles.com. Okay. Firefest of the week. I think everyone's excited to hear this one. We have Billy and Dugues. If you don't know Dugues, I would say Dugues is a quick organizational chart at Barclay. He's probably the ninth most important employee we have.

I love Dugues. He's a ride or die guy. Dugues was tasked with being in charge of Billy for his free beer outing. So usually we start with Hank, but I think we have to start Firefest this week with Billy and Dugues. So is there a Firefest besides the bad beat we had last night? Not really. I lost a bunch of beer chugging contests.

What was the bad beat? Just so we know. So if you didn't know, the PLL championship series is going on right now in the first night of games. We watched the scrimmages. We were probably the only reporters who watched the scrimmages and also gave picks. And we won the first game. We had the Atlas in the first game,

and then we had the Chrome in the second game. We put out a parlay and straight picks for the Atlas and Chrome. And the Atlas won big and we were riding high and we just needed the second leg of the parlay. And then the Chrome went up by like 10 goals in the second game. And over time, unfortunately, they lost by one goal. They tied it up. Archers tied it up with like 10 seconds left.

Yeah. Yeah, they blew a 10 goal lead. Yeah. 10 goal lead, seven, what Jake said. So let me get this right. Are you guys telling me that your plan to break Vegas with the PLL championship series didn't work out? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my God. I thought you guys never saw this coming. Also, Billy's talking like he was watching the scrimmages and was getting like inside information. He was looking at his phone the entire time. Oh, no. Billy, no.

Billy, we were looking up statistics and making content. Uh-huh. Okay. So we were watching the scrimmages. Yeah, you were looking up statistics and making content. You were on your phone the entire time instead of being present. You're such a Gen Z. You're such a Zoomer, Billy.

So. I'm a Zoomer. All right. So, Billy, you kind of buried the lead there. You went 0-3 in chug-offs. Terrible performance. Not even get one single dub. Dukes, how was Billy entertaining clients at this function?

He was really good at entertaining clients. I mean, I'll give him his part there. I've lost him for a little bit throughout the night, which got me a little nervous where he was, but he was just doing chug-offs with the AWLs. I think one thing about the AWLs, if someone that's an AWL comes up to you and they look like they're husky and they're like,

Billy, I want to do you in a chug-off, they're probably going to win. Yeah. They know they're going to kick his ass in the chug-offs. I like how you phrase that, too. Billy, I want to do you in a chug-off. Yeah. We tried to do, we tried to do a beer for every goal,

like the Wade Boggs challenge. And I think like three minutes into the game, it was like five, four. Yeah. I was responsibly mangal. Wait, I saw that. Wait, did you guys, hold on. So you guys were going to break Vegas,

but you didn't realize they score in La Crosse? No. Well, look, the new PLL Championship Series Six is actually, I think, the best La Crosse product I've ever seen. I think it's going to replace the regular rules. This is so Billy to see one thing and be like, this is the future. Everything is going to be shifted.

Like you guys would enjoy watching it. I'm sure. There's tons of goals. We didn't know it's like all transition. It's more like basketball in like the offensive play style. And basically we were like, okay, we're going to drink a beer for every goal to get scored. And then literally there were 90 goals scored, 45 in each game.

All the overs that were posted were just destroyed. And it was awesome. And that's kind of how we were going to go after it. So we can only drink a beer for every five goals. I get that, but also in La Crosse, there's a lot of goals that get scored. So a typical La Crosse game, what's like an average score, Jake? 12-11.

I'd say there's like 20 total goals in a normal game that you've ever taken. This format, it's going to be double. You'll probably see each side score around 20. So when Billy came up with this challenge, it was under the presumption that you would have to drink 40 beers in like two hours, which is also not realistic. I'm just curious.

Well, the beers weren't full-sized beers. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's another caveat. They're probably like 10 ounces. Some would say that's an asterisk, then. You should have put an asterisk next to every single tally mark. Yeah. And like with Billy, when he's talking about like the new La Crosse,

it's for like the casual fans, there's obviously a lot of goals. So I don't really know how much insight he's giving. Like it was just cool to drink beers and we were pretty drunk. And then watching a lot of people score goals, I was like, yeah, this is awesome. I have a simple brain. I like beers. I like goals.

Like this is this is great. You were shelling the goalies. I was like concerned about goalie safety. They're like, if Beavis and Butthead went to private school. Yeah. To choke. Billy, did you delete your treats, like calling your shot that this was going to revolutionize La Crosse?

I'm trying to find it. Uh, maybe. Yeah. Different reasons I'll tell you. Okay. So the treat was essentially like, listen up. If you've never watched La Crosse before, this new Champions League La Crosse will be the best La Crosse

you've ever seen and it will blow your mind. It's like, wait, but this hypothetical is I've never watched La Crosse before. But it sounds like there was another reason why you deleted that tweet. It's like, if you've never seen La Crosse, this will be the sickest La Crosse. He said it. Let's just say like Virginia liquor license laws in certain terminology need to be deleted. Got it. Okay.

Somehow Billy finds his way tangled up with the law everywhere he goes. So overall, uh, how drunk was Billy Dukes? We were pretty deep. But I asked Dukes, I asked Dukes, I asked Dukes. He's, he was, I've seen him worse. Okay. He entertained his clients at the very best and he wasn't quite there. I would give him like a B, a B plus.

All right. Side note, what, what was he like when you've seen him worse? Uh, no. Yeah, it was, it was pretty, he was just chugging whiskey the last time I saw him. Okay. All right. Okay. Waste time.

He was just doing beers. Respect. What about, what about the beer pong? Did you guys play the giant beer pong? That was the funniest part is that he was clamoring for this beer pong tournament. Like in the meetings that we had, they were like, what should we do to get fans going to the beer section? And he's like, I think we should really get like a beer pong tournament.

Like people would love an SNL skit. Yeah. They'd move on to like the next part of the meeting. He's like, yeah, yeah. But like back to like the beer pong tournament. I would put a pin on, yeah. I'll take notes on this meeting and then you just look at his paper after it just says beer pong. And then the guy that set up the whole thing, we see him at the end of the night.

He's like, did you guys enjoy the beer pong? But he was like, nope, didn't even play it. Come on, Billy. No, but there was a, there was cornhole. You could throw bags and there was like big beer pong buckets where you could like shoot on like it's different than table pong. But really the best part was the seating and the beer guard. Like if you're going to go to the PLL, then definitely get to take the bar down beer guard

because it is awesome. Like you can, you're basically like right on the field and you feel VIP and you can drink. Like you're not a VIP. So what else do you guys have planned? What are you going to do? Any sightseeing? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. He keeps mentioning. He's like, do you want to go to the Capitol? I've never been there. Again? No, I've never been there. I want to see him for the first time. He's asked me like on the car ride up alone, he asked me like seven times.

How funny of a bit would it be if we just stormed into the Capitol? You know what, why didn't you, why didn't you drive up with them, Jake? Good question, Hank. Oh yeah, good question. I was going to drive down with them, but Billy texted me the night before. He's like, by the way, there's a ton of dog hair in my back seat. It would have been like, I'm like, thanks for the heads up. So, uh, fortunately I got a train.

It would have been really mean to make like Jake just be allergic to dog hair for five hours. Yeah. That sounds like hell for people who are dogs. With all the pressing to go to the Capitol, Billy, you are sounding like a fed. You know that, right? Like it sounds like you're trying to entrap doogs into something. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't want to go with him.

I feel like he's setting me up earlier. No, I think it would just be great to shoot TikToks on the Capitol mall, like that area with like the monument and stuff. I really just want to take a picture and pretend that the Washington monument like lay down in front of him and pretend it's penis. He's basically asking me to do like a picture for like the eighth grade fuel trip when you go to DC. He did, Billy did say yesterday on macro dosing that driving through DC, it's blown his mind because he's seeing the military industrial complex up close and personal.

Again, all sorts of ideas about it. So I'm interested to hear what the aftermath of this trip is going to be like. Maybe your whole perspective will be changed on stuff. Yeah. One other thing is we're, we're for Jake's broadcast and I, we're going to try to do like the longest snake cup ever at PLL lacrosse event. So hopefully we get like at least a hundred. Okay, sick.

Sick. By the way, memes found the quote. It's if you've never experienced lacrosse before you need to check this out. It will be like lacrosse you've never seen, which is actually factual because you've never seen lacrosse before. It will be like lacrosse you've never seen. I mean, it's true. Yeah.

It's, it's a, I think this is how the game is going to be played in the future. Like this is. So it's the future of the future of the sport. Yeah. It's the best lacrosse product you can put out. It's like awesome. Okay. Which is a highlight machine.

Yeah. Sport of the future of the future. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. All right. Stick around because we're going to do, uh, the lottery balls in a minute. Hank, do you have a firefuss or was it Alabama?

It was Alabama. The other one I was going to say was that, uh, I'm all the way back in on Anthony Richardson, the, to, to tie up, go full circle with it. Steven Shea, our resident, uh, draft expert knows how much I love Anthony Richardson. And like two weeks ago it was like, you know, he also knows I love value. He knows, he knows my love for value. And he said, Anthony Richardson plus 10,000 or whatever, 100 to one to go number one. And I said, say less, put it in.

Oh. So now I'm now yesterday, the news going, I, when I put it in, it was 80 to one. I think when he told me he put it in the night before. So I have it at 80 to one to win like six grand. So yesterday I'm all the way back in. I, it was one of those things where it was like, yeah, Anthony Richardson, he could have said anything. And I would have been like, I'm in Anthony Richardson.

And now I'm like reading all the articles, trying to just will him to somehow become the number one overall pick. Sounds like maybe for a little piece of that pie, we could start a draft. Anthony Richardson.com. Yeah. I'm down. Okay. We'll think about it.

Canon arm. Canon arm. Fast. Fast. All the traits. Elusive. PFT. What's your fire fest?

My fire fest is I got talked into doing something last week. It was kind of entrapment that I'm objectively terrified of doing. You're playing in an alumni rugby game. You're climbing up to like the 50s. That's not till next year. 50th story of a building. It's very similar, but scarier. Oh, I know that.

I was asked and I said, hell no. So large. Well, that's not the story I heard. So large. Oh, no, I said, hell no. No. So, so large. You would recognize him.

He does barcel finance, twisted history here at Barstool. He's a big guy. He covers NASCAR for us. Commissioned referee. He, he, he, um, he was asked to go up in an F 18 before the NASCAR race at the Poconos later on this year. And he was like, well, I'm a big guy. They ran the numbers.

He was too big to fit into the cockpit of an F 18. And then he asked Dave, if Dave wanted to go up and Dave was like, absolutely not. They talked to big cat. Big cat's also too big to go up in the F 18. No, he said I could go up. I said, no. Story I heard was that big cat was too big to fit into an F 18.

Large asked me if I wanted to go. So I would assume. And then so, so large was like. Large isn't going in asking a guy named big cat. Probably. I mean, large is a lot bigger than me, like height wise and probably weight wise. It's okay. Like you're not that big, but you're too big for an F 18.

He asked me if I wanted to do it. Yeah. And I said, hell no. Yeah. So large said, well, PFT flies an F 18 in the simulator all the time. Well, okay. So this is where the story largest is not telling the full story. Let's see.

Let's see if PFT would be down to do it. Well, so I large came up to me and said, do you want to do this? And I said, hell no. And I said, but PFT might. So I put that in his head. Okay. So, um, big cat was too big to fit into an F 18 for it. And then he hit me up last week.

I was drunk because I was on vacation. I'd been outside drinking tequila all day and I got a text from large saying, Hey, PFT, would you want to go up in an F 18 Hornet before this NASCAR race? And my reply was, fuck it, which tells you I was in just like a bad state of mind to make that type of decision. And now I'm trapped into doing this thing where I'm going to go up in an F 18 and they're going to pull some serious Gs. Now I do have experience in the cockpit of an F 18. So I'm familiar with the layout and I know how to work my way around there,

but I'm also definitely afraid of heights. And this seems like it's going to be the worst experience ever, while also being the coolest experience ever. But I'm going to get a flight suit. I'm going to get the helmet. And that's why I told large to ask you, because I know you're definitely afraid of heights, but you also love fighter plates. I do.

And maybe they'll let me take over the sticks for a second when I'm up there. Maybe you might be too small for that. All I'm saying is if there if there's any balloons up there, I'm going to shoot a fucking balloon down. If I see a balloon, I'm going to make sure that we attack that balloon. What is the movie where the guy goes up in one of those planes and pukes all over himself? I can't. It might be top.

Oh, jackass. Jack. And no, I don't think I'm going to do jack. I don't think I'm going to puke. I think I'm going to pass out. I might pass out just from like the anxiety of going up there, because I've seen I've been watching people do it on YouTube because they take people up and f18 sometimes the blue angels.

And when they do it, they actually like pull back hard on the stick. They go upside down. They make high speed turns and shit. And I think my body is just I think my brain is just going to shut down. I think I'm going to be up there and my body will go into like possum mode, where I'll just pass out for a little bit. Aren't you Tom Cruise's height? No, I'm way taller than Tom Cruise.

But like, isn't that why they chose him for? For Top Gun 2? No, I think they did that because of Top Gun 1. No, no, in Top Gun 1, they chose him because of his height. I don't fit in all the planes. I don't know. I can definitely fit into an f18, though. The cockpit is friendly to five nine gentlemen, such as myself.

So I'm like, I am excited about it because I'm going to get to actually fly in a jet that I've flown on in the simulator, which is very realistic. I'm not I'm not delusional enough to think that I could land the jet. Most of my training comes landing the f18 on an aircraft carrier, which I could do, but this is going to be an airstrip. But I do think that if they gave me the controls, I'd be able to at least like hit the waypoints and shit and pull some sick moves. So at the same time, I'm deathly, deathly terrified of doing this.

You're you're going to be fine. By the way, I just looked it up. I hit all the I hit all the requirements. I'm almost too tall. That's my only issue. You can go up to two hundred and fifty five pounds. Get Smart is the movie I'm thinking of. Get Smart.

OK. Classic. You got this though. You got this. I'm going to look like George Bush in my flight suit. Mission accomplished. That actually I looking at the height restrictions is actually largest too tall. Yeah.

No, that's the funniest part. He would have bumped his head on. Yeah. That's crazy. So it can't be more than six four. I think I'm going to have to get back on the sticks and in DCS and do some more ghost manhattan streams to get fully prepared for this. Yeah.

I'm just going to have to know the f18 cockpit like it's back in my hand. Yeah. OK. My fire first Hank, I'm going to need you to leave for my fire first. Why I'm going to need you to leave for my fire first. Why you can come back in in two minutes. Why I'm going to need you to leave for my fire first leave for my fire first. I'm asking you to leave for my fire first.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Leave. I mean, I'm going to I'm going to hear it. Oh, OK. Well, thank you. That's an extra download we get. Please listen to podcast.

Yeah. I automatically download it. Please please leave for my fire first. Leave for my fire first. Thank you. And goodbye and see you. OK. I miss vacation.

Yeah. Vacation. I really miss vacation. It was great. I was like, damn, I really wish I could go back on vacation. That ruled. Seeing all of us in the studio with our tans. It is pretty nice.

Yeah. Like I am a big vacation guy now, I think. What's to stop us from doing the podcast just always on vacation. Vacation of the vacation boys. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what's to stop us. Hank's satisfaction. Yeah.

That's exactly what I had. I had to have him leave the room. I can't have him be like, yes, let's go on more of a if if he was in the room right now, he already would be planning his vacation on his phone. He is. He's slowing it down by at least an hour. So yeah, that's my fire fest. When's your next vacation?

Probably. Morial day. Yeah. Morial day in June, July. Yeah. All right. So we'll get three months away. Yeah.

July will take a week off for July 4th. Bring Tim Woods back. But yeah, I miss my vacation. I miss vacation. So it kicks ass. It was fucking sick. It's not to like about it. Hank, you can come back in.

Hank. Oh, he's not coming back in. I'm going to text him. Hank. He can't get to the lottery bowl. So that was why Alabama said they were going to sue him. Oh, shit. He's back in.

All right. That was my fire fest. Jake. So I've been sitting on this one for a while because we were off last week. I think PFT, I think I told you about this one. It was nice to be off last week. Rewind. I hated.

I love being with these guys, with you guys here. I would. I hated being on vacation. Yeah. But you know, it's nice to work hard and then. No, it's nice to work hard. Stop. Full stop.

All right. Fucking work hard, Hank. Vacation boy, you're a soft bitch. All these vacations you're taking. I didn't even like doing it. I wanted to be working with the boys, with the fellas. Jake, go ahead. I'll take one after.

Yeah. Final four. Oh, no shit. Of course you are. And I'm going to shame you for it because vacation is for suckers and losers. Jake. Um, so two weeks ago, we were in Arizona. We were at Barstool Scottsdale for Super Bowl Sunday.

And I had to go to the bathroom at the two minute morning and missed the end. Oh my God. You missed the end of the Super Bowl. Yeah. Jake is shitting. I missed the Bradbury hole. And I came back out. I saw the field goal.

How? Like, I was just sitting. How come Ben? Kevin Burkart on the speaker. It was, it was emergent. How bad did you have to go to the bathroom where you couldn't wait for another two minutes? The last two minutes of football for the entire year, you're like, gotta go. Yeah.

It was, it was bad. Wow. What did you have for lunch that day? Uh, salad. An acai bowl. But we were eating, we were eating all night. We were eating all night? Yeah.

Um, so yeah, unfortunately, that was the end of the road for me, but I got back out for Buck Chris Jogle. And now Jake, being in the broadcast booth, what would happen to a situation like that if you were calling the Super Bowl? It wouldn't because I wouldn't put myself in a position to eat risky food. Right. Well, is an acai bowl a risky food? It was the least.

It wasn't from that. It wasn't from that. Okay. Yeah. Well, I can't believe you missed the last two minutes of football. The food was delicious though. How could you do that? No, I saw the end.

It's the last bite. You literally had like a ice cream sundae and you just left a little ice cream at the bottom. No thanks. I don't want to send it back. The human body doesn't care. All right. Good show everyone. Monday, we have our good friend, Christian Yelich.

So I haven't talked to him in a while. We got him in person in Super Bowl week too. And it's probably a mistake by us because that means that the ass eating bet is going to be brought back up all the time. He looks, he looks big. He looks big. He looks like he's been working out. Yeah.

And also just a reminder on Wednesday show, we're going to do a full swing. You mean Jackson Mahomes? Yeah, Jackson Mahomes. He's the Luigi to the Luigi. He burns you bad, Billy, with that clip. Where you're like, I was on vacation all week and all I could think about was Jackson Mahomes and Christian Yelich look alike. It was just a take ahead.

But the part of I was on vacation and that's all I could think about. He conveniently removed the part where I asked if Jackson eats more ass than Christian does. Yeah. He edited that part out. Yeah, that was smart of him. But yeah, and then full swing review on Wednesday. So everyone watch it. It's on Netflix.

It's fucking awesome. We'll do that. We have a couple of golfers that will be on with us then. Hank, have you ever gotten this? Lottery ball machine? I have not. Oh, that's too bad. Dukes, do you want to start us off with what number you want?

And you can have 69 if you'd like 69. Yeah, take it. Take 69. I'll do 69. All right, nice. Hell yeah, Dukes. All right, everyone else's numbers? Eight, 96.

Eighteen. Seventeen. Ninety-nine. Ooh. Four. Shout JJ, dude. Okay. Get around with my guys.

Sunpick three this week. Did you get it? Went like what? What? Just watch. You can't count that. All right. Can we just, can I start bringing in people's guesses?

His doesn't count. I'm just doing it for my own. I'll tweet it. Fine, I'll start tweeting. He'll get it before you and that'll be funny. What was your number? 99. Have you ever gotten this?

No. Three is missing. Oh, yeah. What an idiot. How did he not know that? I think something else is missing. What is that? Oh, oh, 60.

I thought it was 69. Oh, sorry. Oh, my God. That would have been incredible. No. Oh, my God. I would literally murder, dude. It would have just been the rest of Dukes and Billy's day.

It would have been Billy just being like, bro, why'd you fucking take my number 69? He was like, I took it. He would have won all the money. Yeah, Andy would have won all the money. He'd be like, well, dude, it's 69. I heard two. It's great having you on, Dukes.

All right, we'll see you guys. Yeah, we'll see everyone Monday. Love you guys. Maryland Blue Crabs and the State Animal of Maryland. That's actually a lie. Hey, come on, me. Be ready to say, I thought you said it. It's about me, so I'm gonna lay it away.

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