Pardon My Take - Max Homa, Shane Bacon Previewing The Masters, Florida Wins The National Championship, Pardon Your Take And White Lotus Finale

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Florida wins the National Championship and we talk about the Final game to cap off a subpar tournament but incredible Final Four (00:00:00-00:23:57). The Nuggets fire Michael Malone and their GM in a very strange move and more (00:23:57-00:40:40). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Dire Wolf and playing God with nature (00:40:40-00:53:55). Max Homa joins the show to catch up, talk about his golf game and recent struggles, pump him up before the Masters, and catch him up on what he’s missed since he quit Twitter (00:53:55-01:29:52). Shane Bacon joins the show to break down the Masters field, who’s going to win, long shots and more (01:29:52-02:04:17). We finish with listener submitted pardon your takes (02:04:17-02:11:53) and a recap of the White Lotus finale (02:11:53-02:31:31).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, it is master's time and we have our good friend Max Homa on the show. As is tradition, great catching up with him. He's about to turn the corner and maybe shock the world. We're going to shock the world. We're pumping up Max. We have our good friend Shane Bacon breaking down the Masters, talking about best bets, what we expect from this weekend. We're going to talk Florida Gators back on the top of the college basketball mountain. We had some weird firings in Denver. We have hot Seat, Cool Throne, and then we're gonna finish with Pardon Your Take.

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championship? The championship, yeah. The championship! It's pretty good. What a, what a Final Four. Let's give it up for the Final Four. That was incredible. Great games, great games. We deserve it. We put in the hard work. You know that? I just got crashed by the lighthouse. We put in the hard work. Watching this shit, the shit turned into fertilizer, and we got a beautiful garden that bloomed in the hard work watching this shit. The shit turned into fertilizer. We got a beautiful garden that bloomed in the final four. I think that Houston was uncomfortable not playing from behind. Yeah. I feel like Houston had had to lead the whole game and they're like, wait, we're, we're usually the ones that are, that are coming back at the

last minute. Yeah. We can't hold onto the lead. We want to take the lead. The, uh, so, uh, all three games in the final four, the team losing at halftime won the game. That means that it was back and forth, fun basketball. It wasn't the prettiest game, but it was thrilling. And we got to see something I never thought I'd see, where you get a last possession where Houston was not able to get a shot off because, I mean, he threw the ball and was

going to end up with a traveling violation if he had touched the ball. Yeah that was weird. Was that the last, was that the worst final possession of all time in college basketball? Mmm. It might be. Chris Weber. Not the final possession though. I mean it was, I don't know what they were planning on doing. I guess credit to Florida's defense for taking away whatever it is they were trying to do. But yeah they couldn't get a shot off Well watching it back. I know that Walter Clayton got player of the tournament player of the final four, which he deserved

He was even on a night when his first three or four shots were comically off And I think that also is part of the the ball being overinflated He was a big part of Florida offense, you know, with his assists in the first half, and then he found a little offense late, driving to the hole, hitting a big three. But Will Richard was the player of the game for this game, and it was him keeping them afloat

in the first half with his threes. And then if you look at the final possession, his on-ball defense in the final possession is where like all the timing for Houston got screwed up. And when the timing got screwed up, you end up with that possession where Kelvin Sampson was just staring there, not saying anything, watching his dream crumble. Yeah, that was, I feel bad for Kelvin Sampson. I do too. I was hoping, I mean, I obviously had the future on Florida, but for Kelvin, I don't know if he's

going to get back here because this is an old team that he had. It was a culture though. It was the average age there, like 21, 21 and a half. Yeah. Um, they were an older team and uh, they were, they played really hard last. I was super impressed with how they defended against Clayton. So they, what they did in the first half was they had cryer on them and then they blitzed them and they're like, yeah, cryer, you're going to, you're going to sprint your ass off, like pretend like you're running around guarding rip Hamilton for, for 20 minutes. And then in the second half, we're going to put sharp on them. Yeah. So you can, we'll, we'll have someone who's relatively fresh and they did a great job of stopping them taking away outside shots. He had great passes

to the inside. I didn't know that. I didn't know if Condon was going to be enough because condon he looked like he was scared. He can't, he can't. That was the big thing with, uh, Clayton should have had more assists because his passes were so good. Yeah. The Florida big men, uh, again, their hands didn't work except for, uh, Thomas Hawk, who that was one of the, that was the play of the game when he, when he blocked the ball and then went for the and one. Yeah, that was an incredible play. But yeah, Condon, I, I'll say it. He still is so important defensively, but offensively when he gets the ball, it's just nervousness. I think there have been some games where he looks good offensively, but against Houston, he, he

wanted no part of having that ball in the paint. Yeah. He would just, he would like toss it around to himself, dribble it off his leg, get it stripped. Try. I think he had like back to back traveling violations traveling violations Yeah, he was he was scared in the first half, but there yeah There were great passes by by Clayton and then the second half they kind of figured out different ways that they could score Completely different halves in terms of how it was officiated to yes, so the stats are insane there were Four fouls called in the first half and they were 26 fouls called in the second half, two technicals. Also, uh, Todd Golden probably deserves credit and I hate that the

refs became a part of the, the entire story here, but his technical was maybe the most strategic technical of all time because after his technical foul, which was I think like three or four minutes into the second half, the fouls went 13 to three on Houston. Yeah. Good move by him. It was, because remember the second half started, I think Florida had five fouls in two and a half minutes. Yeah. And two of those fouls were phantom calls. Yeah. Two were really, really bad. And then there was a bad no call that they had too. And so

after the first bad call, I could tell Golden's, he's going to get a technical here. Watch. He's like, he knows that he's out of the box. I love, by the way, I love the box that they put on coaches because no coach stays in the box ever. It's just, if you get worn three times and you still, you go further outside the box, that's when they hit you with the tee.

Yeah. We also speaking of the refs, uh, I feel like Seth Davis had Seth Davis had like he would be my LVP for the tournament Because remember he was he was carrying water for Kevin Willard earlier in the tournament. Mm-hmm not understanding how fans You know interact in sports. I had Jeff Goodman is mine Jeff Goodman also Well, he's he I don't even know if he can register because he's like this guy sucks It sucks talking about because he doesn't know who we are. So he's not ever going to hear this. Correct. I'm just yelling into the ether. Yeah, no idea who we are. Seth Davis though tweeted this about the refs. I've always disagreed with the argument that the rest

should call it the same the whole game. The game changes. Sometimes you need to blow the P. He said, I called it a P blow the P. Sometimes you need to blow the P to tighten things up. They did. The players adjusted and we got an amazing final 12 minutes. Refing is more art than science. I'm going to disagree with that. I think that's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. If here's, here's the thing. If the refs don't call physical play or something that happens in the first half and then all of a sudden they decide that they're going to call that a foul. That's very confusing for the players and usually gives us a worse product because the players do not have consistency. There's

a reason they wear black and white. Yeah, it's it's not black and white. The other. Yeah. Do this. Do all refs wear black and white though on a basketball court. Yeah. I feel like in the NBA. It's like gray It might be greater shades of gray and on a college you think that's right stripes. He made a good Yeah, he made a good. It's a joke. It's a good good pun. Give it to it's a great great. It's not on Yeah, it's not our but that that's the dumbest argument I've ever heard I think that's very stupid like can you imagine a baseball umpire being like the strike zone? You know, it changes rank to inning.

No, like be consistent. That's the one thing. If you're going to, listen, if you're going to blow the P 26 times in the second half, then blow the P 26 times in the first half. If you're going to be bad, be consistently bad. Yeah. If you're going to be good, be consistently good. Like that's actually, it's the exact opposite of how I view officiating.

There are some times you watch a game and you see the refs are like, all right, it's going to be one of those nights. And you just, and then everyone adjusts to have it be, it's not one of those nights. And then halftime happens and they're like, no, it is one of those nights. That sucks. I have another complaint about the officiating. This has been bugging me for, I feel like three years now. Why do they insist on having that, that weird angle camera every time they're watching the review and then making the announcement? The one that's like, it looks like it's done on a laptop camera, like a front facing laptop camera where they stare into it is every single one of them looks like a serial killer about to murder somebody. Yeah, it's a blowjob. It's a blowjob. It's the what she sees. Yeah, right. And every ref looks like a complete creep. Just get get a normal camera. I agree. It's so stupid. It makes me hate the refs more. Also, I, I did grow to hate Gene Steritor. I love them at the end. I went the other way. You ended up liking him. I ended up missing him. Yes. He's strong on Sunday. I was like, man, I really wish Gene Steritor could just pop into my life right now. You got to stay strong. It was a, I wish someone had done. I next

year we'll do it where it's just one shining moment, but it's just Gene Steritor's graphic popping up. It's like, it's like being the mayor of New York city, no matter what you do, everybody's going to hate you. If you are the person who is in charge of busting in the broadcast, like 20 times in three minutes to analyze if a ball hit off a guy's knee, when we can all see that it hit off his knee.

And they're like, okay, let's get Gene Sterator and because he's the only guy that can tell us if this ball actually hit off the guy's knee. Or if we're just seeing things. Yeah, Gene, what do you think? That's it makes me hate you. I don't want to hate gene. I just missed him because I he became such a big part of my life. It was like, it's like, you know, getting like an office wife or an office husband, gene stitor, we watched so much basketball. He was kind of getting office hot to me.

Office. I was kind of being like, Gene Steritor is doing it for me. When he pops in, he's like, I don't know, could go either way. Thanks, Gene. Really needed that opinion. And he makes some little joke. I didn't like how jokey they got. They got really jokey.

That's why you got to get Mike Kerry back. Yeah, we need to bring him back to the national discussion. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, credit to Florida. So Florida's path, uh, was pretty impressive. So starting with the sec championship, uh, or sec tournament, Florida went on to beat, uh, Missouri who is ranked 19th in Ken Palm, Alabama, six, Tennessee five, then go to the tournament. They win their first round game. Yukon defending champs, 32, Maryland 10, Texas tech nine, Auburn four, Houston two. So they went on a path where they beat, uh, six top 10 teams to get to this championship. The only, you know, they were, they were ranked third. They ended up beating the two, four, five and six ranked teams in Ken Palm. So Duke was the only one

that they didn't rank or didn't beat. Uh, it was a hell of a gauntlet and they did it and Florida's back on top. I also saw, I was reading an article last night, I think it was on the athletic where it was like February 26, 20, uh, 2006 was when Florida lost their last game and then went on to win a title. February 27, 2006 seven was when Florida lost their last game and then went on to win a title. February 27th, 2007 was when they lost their last game to go on and win on a title. And then this year they lost their last game February 25th and then just went. So it's something about those late February losses and then Florida, when they've won their three titles have just gone, ripped them all off.

That's wild. Yeah. I think the story from this Final four though if we're gonna think back Put yourself in a time machine ten years from now Duke Duke losing is yeah It's a story of the final four. Yes that I I will die on that hill. We're gonna use it show Possession blew that guy It was the worst possession I've ever seen That guy said it was maybe it was the worst possession I've ever seen but before that okay They did choke they had turnovers on I think their last four possessions. Yeah, which is crazy. Yeah

Houston choke but also Houston Florida also traveled twice on that on that once press break note the ball handle I know the the one you're talking about with Clayton. I don't think he traveled the other one like uh He took like 20 steps and to know he's not I think there were probably two missed calls But I mean they were either way enough. Yeah, Houston did also there was the goaltending that they didn't review Yeah, that was important. It turns out You that because they didn't call it so if they if they called it on the floor they could look at it be like Yeah, we got it, right But they didn't call it so So instead we just came back from

commercial and they were like, look at this goaltending call that they missed. Nothing's going to change. Yeah, look, Hank, you probably aren't wrong because Houston did lead the game for all but 17 seconds in the first 39 minutes. And then, uh, Elijah Martin hit two free throws or one free throw with 46 seconds remaining and that was it like that's Hank had a future on Houston Am I am I reversing the narrative that you always win the big bets in my face and I'm I kind of reversed it. Yeah, I Did feel bad because it was like it sucked that we're I appreciate you feel I didn't I didn't think you needed to feel bad But I like when it's when it's head toto-head But it's different when it's future against future. I know that you know, it's still if we both were like, you know nuke first nuke

That's one thing but yeah, it's true. You can't you can't plan on that. Yeah It's anything that just means that this podcast knows ball. Yeah true. I Yeah, I want a very large sum of money and I think I still am down in March Madness, but that's okay. I'm a losing gambler. I've never said different. It counts not empty. The accounts not empty, but there's a lot of people being like, show you all your losers. Like, hey buddy, there's a lot of them. I will never admit it different. I'm a loser. A solemn promise to you all. I will never check and see how much money I've lost.

I will when I write like a biography in like 40 years and then I can like, you know, they'll have me on whatever the next Dan Patrick is and I can be like, says you're in your book, you lost $30 million gambling like, yep, it's true. That's not what the number is right now. I'm down. I'm down big this year. And I hit the Travis Hunter Heisman future. Yeah, that was the biggest future of my life. I would I would sco hit the Travis Hunter Heisman future. That was the biggest future of my life. I went scubal Travis Hunter Eagles and Florida. You win.

And I'm down. Plus 16 and 0 mixed in the middle of that. And I'm still down. So that gives you a little insight of how I am as a game. Maybe violent scandals. I just love the people being like, show your like dude and then they're thank you to everyone who came to My defense are like he said a billion times that he's a loser like that's just I'm actually on Documented record. Yeah. Yeah When they wouldn't when Penn went to to trial against the Massachusetts government, they're like he's the biggest gambling loser of all time

Historically, but uh, yeah, it was it was I think we'll remember Duke. Yeah, I mean that's gotta be the big story right? It's gotta be the big story. I actually do believe that. Yeah, that 10 years from now we'll remember that Florida won a national title. Will we remember it as much as because here's the here's a difference Hank between Duke's choke and saying it's USA Russia. No, it's a USSR. They're supposed to be Duke. Yeah, well, and also, I think if you had to if you had to make a bet on what player from these four teams is going to have a career that we talked about for a long time, it's Cooper flag.

And guess what happened with Cooper flag in his last, you know, tournament game. He choked. So that's where the storyline comes. Yeah, a lot of choking that I think it'll be remembered as the final four of chokes. The chokes. Yeah, Kelvin Sampson, I do feel bad. He was on win number 799. So this would have been 800 brutal. He probably would have retired, right? I don't know at 800. His son is coaching waiting. Kellen. He's yeah, he's been right there.

He just I'll say this about Kelvin Sampson incredible coach just needs to figure out how to get a little bit more moisture in his mouth. Yeah, he is a big-time dry mouth guy. He is he is he also is a coach that every time I see him. I think he's going to be fatter than he is. Yeah, I think it's the name Kelvin. Kelvin, I assume every time the camera pans to him, I'm like, wow, he's lost a lot of weight,

but I say that every time I see him. Adding an L to Kevin makes you fatter. Yeah. It should. Like when you close your eyes, you say, hey, that's Kelvin coming down the street. I'm like, whoa, that guy's a big boy. It's how you say Kevin

while you're swallowing a bite of sandwich. Yeah. Your mouth is full Kelvin. Yeah. Uh, and then Florida. Yeah. I mean this, this final four or this championship game for everyone who says that, uh, college basketball is dying. Yes, obviously there's some issues then I Allen transfer, but there were no five star recruits in this game and there were no freshmen in this game. So playing, I maybe there was a freshman. I know Florida has a freshman. Maybe it was the starters, no five stars, no freshmen. So it's not just you could load the, you know, Duke would have been the team. You're like, NIL has ruined it. They just paid 20 million for their roster.

That didn't happen. So it turns out that like the only thing that we could say after the term was over if Duke had Won in IL ruined college basketball, and since Florida won and they didn't have freshmen. It's College basketball alive and well alive and well will also know I I Just I hate after big games like this seeing Olivier Rue go out on the court and cut down the nets and not have to jump At all. Yeah, seven foot eight guys seven foot nine guy in Florida who doesn't play because he's a freshman. I just wish that we had seen him play. Yeah, I agree. He'll play. He's gonna be a freak. Um, and it was also, like I said, my, my player of the game was Will Richard is I'm a sap for this stuff. He was the first guy to commit to Todd golden when he took over at Florida.

I always love those stories where it's like he was the first one to believe in what would end up being three years down the line, a national champion. He was my guy. He was the guy built it all around. That's, that's the foundation block. Do we have a, a top 25 for next year already? I love the sickos that do those lists the second the games. Okay. Can Santa made one Kentucky, Duke, Kansas, maybe UNC. Uh, I'm going to say Creighton is going to be somewhere on 12. Where's Creighton? Oh, quick. Creighton's 22. I was got Houston at one Houston, Purdue, Louisville, Duke, Yukon, Texas tech, Alabama, St. John's UCLA, Iowa state. That's your top 10.

I love that. Congrats to Iowa state. There was a guy, there's a guy on, Alabama, St. John's, UCLA, Iowa State. That's your top 10. I love that. Congrats to Iowa State. There was a guy, there's a guy on a fuck, I can't remember. It might be like JBB bracket ology or something. I can't remember. No, JBR bracket ology is someone who follows a really good college who's followed. But there's a guy who did bracket ology already. Before it was I think he did on Saturday. Who were the first four teams out? I don't know who the first four teams out was. I just immediately looked Wisconsin got an eight seed. I would just assume that was cool. If you're doing bracket ology for next year already, you're only doing it. Oh, there it is. Have the first four teams

out so you can stick it to fan bases that you don't like. Mr. Brackets three. He's got a Houston as your one seat in the south. Duke is your one seat in the east. Kentucky is your one seat in the Midwest and Purdue out west. Uh, gonna be tough for the boiler makers out going out west. I pulled that up pretty quick. Is you did pull that up? Is villain. It looks like it's not on there, but Robert Wright coming to Nova. I feel like they reversed where West Virginia should be in Xavier. I feel like those two are backwards in this one.

Did the committee get it wrong? The committee got it wrong. I just love the commitment to do a bracketology. When did he post this? Great job, Max, by pulling that up. When did he post this? This was on April 5th at 2.18. So this was before the Final Four was played. I love that. I love that.

That's a commitment right there. But yeah, actually a great way to take away some of this. If your team doesn't get into the NCAA tournament, there should be a guy that does this for next year. And put all those bubble teams in. Yeah, actually be like, look, we're building something. You got it. You're on the way. All right. So yeah, good, bad tournament, great final four. Yeah. I think that's fair to say you got to get a shot off. Gotta get a shot off me. If I that's probably, I mean with Houston, you take the good with

the bad. They practice so much in like loose ball drills and not shooting. You revert back to your training. What do you think sort of wrestling? What do you think would have happened if he had picked up the ball? Do you think the rest would have been, they would have called it? I mean, we could have had the biggest missed call of all time. Right. Like just put the pressure on them. I also think he should have, he should have touched it just because then they would have still been like whatever five seconds left and you force them to go, goes, makes a free throw. Yeah. Force them to make the call. If they make the call. Florida makes a free throw or two that then it would be game. But if

they make one, you still got a shot. Yep. Yeah. He should have touched it all time. Oh, that's so unsatisfying. If you're a Houston fan. I don't know what you just have that playing in your head forever. I guess that was kind of what felt like a win the whole game to like they were they were winning that game. You just need a shot. You'd need a shot at the end of the game. And especially, I mean, they, the play they ran was to, to, to shoot a three and they should have went right away, rented right at the rim. Yeah. And try to get a rebound. That's what I didn't understand was why, why take it down that far? Why not give your yourself a shot to, if they get a rebound. That's what I didn't understand was why, why take it down that far?

Why not give yourself a shot to, if they get a rebound, get a foul and play it out from there, give yourself multiple opportunities to not get a shot off. When I watched it back, I was looking at it and it looked like what they were hoping for. It looked, it, basically Will Richards' defense got all of the sequence of screens out of order for Houston and they were just all a little bit late

and the pass wasn't really crisp. But I think what they were trying to do was get Condon to come out on the three and it would have left J. Juan Roberts and Clayton going for the rebound. So you basically take a three with five seconds left and you're big and then you have a huge mismatch under the boards.

Also, I feel like J. Juan Roberts could get a rebound even if there were three other guys around him. Yeah, that shot he hit off the backboard. That was insane. That was insane. I woke up this morning and my first thought was, how did Florida win this game? Yeah.

Like it's crazy, but it was a great comeback by Florida. They were never in control of this game. Never. Not even for, even at the end, it's like, oh, here comes Houston. They're gonna either hit a three or get a rebound because that's what they always do. Like if you're trailing and what were they down by 12 points? They go down 12. They were down 10 almost instantly in the second half. Yeah, you're down 12 and you get two technicals. Yeah. And you still

come back and win. That's crazy. It was that Thomas Hawk block and and one was an incredible, incredible play. He played his balls off. Yep. He was, he was a dude. Okay. Denver has fired their head coach, our good friend, Michael Malone and their GM. What the fuck? Yeah, what the fuck? This is the one of the craziest coach firings. The huge Denver is in the four seat, I believe right now, but there are all these teams in the West are within half game. So they could end up being the eight seed memes had an interesting theory that he's been reading about online. I don't know. You mean Luka Donchich? No, no. Yeah. Our guy memes decided to show up to work today

dressed as Luka Donchich. I don't know. I've never seen it before. Um, he's wearing a Luka Donchich, uh, Mavericks Mavericks Luka Doncic hoodie. What is that? It's a sweatshirt. Hersey Hersey. I think a sweatshirt jersey. What's your swirly matching sweatpants and then has his shoes and socks exactly like Luca would wear. Yeah.

So he's just channeling Luca on the map and he's been drinking beers all day. And he said he means hookah and hookah. Memes is like, is it sex trafficking? That was his theory on my, I mean the Denver airport, weird shit goes on there. Was it the Yocitch brothers? They just went into the, uh, the nuggets facilities, like fire him. Now I coach team. Now. No, I, I mean, I read who knows what actually happened. I coach team now. No, I I mean I read who knows what actually happened. Apparently the GM and Michael Malone Did not speak and they were not on good terms. So they're firing both of them So they're like fuck it will fire both of them me personally. I would keep the coach that won an NBA title

I would keep the coach that you're winning the playoff you're winning his coach of all time your NBA title coach the only one you have in your history of your of Your franchise right before the playoffs Makes no sense. I NBA title coach, the only one you have in your history of your, uh, of your franchise right before the playoffs. Makes no sense. I, I always go back to like whenever these things happen, like Yokech had to sign off on this, right? I would think so. But also Yokech is someone who's like, he's the type of guy who I feel like he's, he wouldn't demand anything.

After the Luca thing when it was like you would think someone along the way would have been like, we're not doing this. And that didn't happen. It feels like anything's possible. But with, with, with Jokic, I feel like you, he's always teetering on the edge of being like, you know, I don't really like playing basketball. I'd rather just hang out with my horses. You don't want to piss them off.

Yeah. So I feel like you have to have that conversation with them. Right. Right before the playoffs. I know they've lost four in a row, but Jamal Murray's been in and out. So like you still have the best player in the world right now. Yeah. You. So that, that leads me to only think that he would, he would have signed off on this. Yeah. Also Calvin Booth, the GM tough day for him because his face on this. Yeah. Also Calvin booth, the GM top day for him because his face is weird. Yeah. There are some pictures of the kind of looked like he was melting. Yeah. Someone said that looks like they put Nick cages face inside of his inside of a tanning bed. Yeah. Yeah. It was you pull up his picture. Yeah. I mean, that's just it. Listen, sucks to get fired. Sucks even more for everyone to be like, oh, that's what you look like. Let's a look at this guy cuz I only saw the graphic that shams. Yeah, just why the long face Calvin. Yeah Yeah, so Calvin booth, it's a it's a very that first picture right there

That's not great. It's a very strange time to do all this very strange like really really strange The owner Josh cranky he gave us a press conference today and they asked him about it Does he have any relation to Stan? I I'll have to look that up. He might yeah for him another Cranky getting a team. Yeah, so but he's independent with independently wealthy. Yeah His message to the team was play hard and have fun. So they're going the Mighty Ducks strategy. They're going Yeah, Gordon Bombay. That would be funny if they just hired Emilio Estevez. Like we don't. Yokoz can draw up the plays. I'm just here to throw the beach ball out there and have some fun. So I guess they're just going to go

with the their assistant coaches and interim for the playoffs. Okay. I this is coaching by committee. This is stupid. This makes no sense. Mike Malone's coaches Michael Michael. Yeah, but aren't they just Say the question again aren't those Michael Malone coaches. Mm-hmm. Yes now you're firing your coach your post Malone Yeah, why would you not he had some help? new help If you don't believe in Michael Malone, how could you believe in us his assistance? It would be my question fair fair question will those assistants coach hard for you after you fired their

guy? Right. One of them will. One of them definitely is like this is my shot. The rat? Yeah and then they'll and then it will become a whole thing. Wait who is this? What do you think about this guy? David Adelman. Okay. He's got uh he's got cute cheeks. And who else? Look how rosy they are who else is is coaching for them. So they're really going by committee. I think this is a guy. Oh, he did he did they did make it officially. He's the interim. Okay, because I was gonna say if they were if that would be very funny if it was like four guys and they took turns on the quarters You're actually asking for a huge reduction from guys never done it before at this level. That's what win horse said I agree with Wendy Wendy's hair is so on point to get suit to this fucking guy. He just he serves looks

Fucking love when he was he'll be on for the playoffs. Ah You guys decided for the Masters, I know we got max He'll be on for the playoffs. You guys decided for the Masters? I know we got Max Homa and Shane Bacon. By the way, Max, awesome interview. He's maybe not playing the best golf of his career right now. Or he isn't. But we got him.

I feel like it was a good time to just go back to the old conversation with Max Homa. I'm very excited about it, big cat. I know that Sunday is maybe the best nap day of the entire calendar year when you're watching the final round. I think it's Saturday. I actually have become more of a Friday masters guy. Oh Friday, Friday masters before the cut. It's like a little mini championship. It's like everybody is fighting for something. I like Saturday just because Saturday, like Sunday I don't want to miss anything and Saturday is just a perfect Saturday afternoon they do the

thing where you can't watch the coverage on TV until like three o'clock and then it comes on and you just kind of doze off and you wake up for the last you know four or five holes where you say Max. Why can't you watch all of the Masters? I don't understand there's no other sports going on at this time. Everyone wants to watch the whole thing. The Masters. The first two rounds, they've expanded their coverage. Yeah, and Max, you can download.

There should be no question of whether there is coverage. I agree. You can download the app. You download the app. But then you, like the amount of times that I've bet on somebody and you can't watch, and you're just going through like the Masters tracker and just waiting and refreshing and refreshing It's so annoying the most frustrating thing that happens every single year on Saturday the Masters is it like 2 o'clock?

They're like here is an hour of a Jack Nicklaus documentary Like just give us the foot. We know they're playing. Yeah, they're playing Masters right now. It's usually like 30 minutes about how Sam Snead named a tree. Yeah. But the answer to your question, Max, is it's the Masters. So they get to make all the rules. They get to do whatever they want. That's really all it is. They have a one year contract with CBS and they basically call up CBS and say, yeah, you know what? We'll keep you for another year. Like imagine CBS kind of the cuck in this relationship. They go from 12 to 7 on Saturday. Is that real 12 to 7?

12 to 2 on Peacock on the cock. What about the morning? Who cares? On Saturday, Sunday, it's like any moving day, bro. But anyone that's anyone at 12 to 7 is a long time. Dibbleheads like us? Yeah. No, you're going to want is a long dip. Oh heads like us. Yeah, no, you know What you're gonna want to see how the guy how the course looks in the morning

What's going on from 8 to 12? Like what are the where they showing that they can't show Matt? I actually realized max just wanted to post up and watch no no, but I just like having it on Here's the thing. Here's the thing though and max makes a good point like they could be lying to us about what happens earlier in the day Right, they could just make up the scores and be like, oh, this is crazy Tiger Woods shot another great round early in the day on Saturday. You didn't see it. Mm-hmm Well, also, why are you defending? Why why you should be on my side? I anyone is on my I do think the Masters in terms of golf tournaments At least like there's a lot of golf tournaments where there's much worse viewing experiences. The Masters gives you a lot

But I want all of it. I want more. That's fair. I want everything. I don't care about golf except for the majors or if we have a bet on a guy that weekend. Just give you the golf. Give me the golf.

Give me all of it. I agree. When I wake up on Saturday morning, it's like, oh, the Masters is on. Let me just throw this on my TV while I'm doing other things. Why can't I have that on my TV. It is also the most peaceful tournament. So like I don't even care. They don't even have to. They could show a shot every 10 minutes and as long as I have it on my TV I'm 100 percent correct. Yeah and they do that. Less commercials. Hanks been compromised. I don't think Hank

just likes to know and know all of the golf. No, no, no, no. You're defending the wrong golf here, bro. I just, it's true. Yeah. He thinks he's going to play the Augusta someday. Max was like, I would, Max was like, I think we should be able to watch more golf. And Hank's like, no, yeah, that doesn't add up. Why would Hank say that? Do you want to play the Augusta? No, you don't want to play the Augusta. I don't, there's no world where I'm playing it again. So that's not even there's zero There's definitely not a world you're playing it Gus if you have a take like max max is definitely not playing it Augusta

Are you negging the course? I'm not playing it. I'm opting out of playing at it I also walked out because I want more fucking golf. Yeah. All right fair me too. Oh fuck the master We just dragged you down into the mud with us. I also love the catty uniforms at Augusta. The catty uniforms are priceless. They're like little smocks that they get them. Are you trying to play at Augusta? No.

You haven't opted out yet, though. No, I have opted. You forget, big cat. Like, three years ago on this show, I said, I don't want to play at Augusta. I'm not Augusta material. I'm opting out. And you, you said you wouldn't want to play at Augusta.

I would want to play at Augusta. I would want to play at Augusta, but now I can't because I'm saying fuck the masters. I definitely would want to play at Augusta. I've been opting out. Like if they asked me, I absolutely would. Hank still allowed the putt though. We'll get to that later. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just want to clear. Hank still allowed the putt. Fuck the masters, but if later. I just want to clear the pot But fuck the Masters, but if they actually did invite us like I would play for the record I don't we're never getting in but no one is getting in but we would I don't I don't know that I would because I would Augusta would lose so much of it shine so much of its stature for me The second they invite me I'm like that's kind of gross you guys you guys are doing too they invite me, I'm like, that's kind of gross. You guys, you guys are doing too much. Yeah, I'm thank you want to fuck the masters, but you would. Yeah. Okay. Max, would you? I'm never mad. I won't even I won't even play on this show. I'm

that bad. But you would I would I would not if you were asked to play it again. Sounds like he wants to play. I don't want to play. If they asked you to play to, it sounds like he wants to play. I don't want to play. If they asked you to play to Augusta on a fucking random day in July, I don't even know if it's open. I think it's closed. It's closed in July. Whatever it whatever it's open. Some Jeffrey Lurie calls you up and says, Max, you're my number one guy.

I mean, you want to go play Augusta with me. Well, that's how it would have to be, because it had to be some like crazy, rich dude. But that wouldn't be to play at Augusta that would be to play with Jeffrey Lord So Jeffrey Lord says hey Max I I'm not gonna make it but I want you to play in my in my place at Augusta Well, that would be big Dom asking me Or would it be big John? I don't know who that is. I would never play. Yeah, I'm not I

Bad at call me Sweeney were to DM me like I like I would never go out there But if she DM me I would go out there too. Yeah same If she's damn you she's like you want to go out on a date yeah, yeah, I would That would be good for the show. Yeah, I'd be good. I would approve of you really good for the show. You should work on that That would be good for the show. Yeah, I would approve of you doing that. It would be really good for the show. You should work on that. Yeah, it would be better for, it would be better.

I'll work just as hard as that, as playing at Augusta. What do you think is more likely? I'd like to win the lottery. Cindy Sweeney. Never gonna. You think Cindy Sweeney DMing you out of nowhere and being like, let's fuck is more likely than Augusta DMing you and be like, let's play.

I think she'd want to go on a date, make sure we have chemistry. But yeah, yeah, yeah. No one plays it like way more likely. Yeah. You work on the at the number one sports podcast in America and you think it's more likely at Sidney Sweeney fucks you than Augusta invites you. I kind of agree with them. No one plays it Augusta.

Yeah, I kind of agree with them. Listen, nobody fucks Sidney Sweeney either Well, someone does I think it's I I'm kind of on PFT side here. Yeah, it's I think that's don't know listen both Hank is Hank doesn't even want to watch the Masters Yeah, I'm over to on the 50-50 where four Cubs games in You probably didn't buy that many tickets though Yeah, I probably didn't buy that many tickets. They you know what here's another thing for ranting max the 50-50 now They don't print out all your numbers. You just get one number

It's bullshit. This thing's that even me you have to check a website. I get I know I lost I spend like $200-300 every time they give me one number. I don't understand it. I feel like I'm getting robbed Do they give you like from this number to this? No, there's one number. I don't get it. I don't understand that changed They're right there. Do you think I'm there? I think you're getting robbed. I think you're getting right that Make that make my at the Blackhawks game. I think I bought 300 bucks worth of 50 50s. They sent me an email. Yes. And then I get an email with a bunch of numbers and then I click a button and then it takes me to a website that tells me that I lost the 50 50. I'm like I paid $300 to read a website. I also don't think that you should be able to buy 50 50s if you're not at the game. Agree. I would never want

to win a 50 50 if I wasn't there. Like I get people will send me like oh buy 50 50s if you're not at the game. Agree. I would never want to win a 50 50 if I wasn't there. Like I get people will send me like all this 50 50 you can buy. It's like, dude, I gotta be there for the record. Go to the game. I would like to win a 50 50 at a game that I'm not at. I'll never enter, but in theory I would like to get an email being not me. I guess actually in theory I would too. Yeah. You put, I wouldn't count it as my 50 50. Right. You just be like, I just won a lot of money. I got paid money. Not, not I won the 50-50

It would be kind of like not pointing fingers in here, but like someone in this room Saying that they've gotten the lottery ball when they clearly have not because it was someone else's lottery ball That kind of situation like if I wasn't at the game. I'm not gonna count it. Well that never happened Yeah, PFT just got it. Yeah. Yeah, and memes still has not I got twice Hey, what's gonna happen first me win the 50-50 or memes get the lottery ball? Um, what do you I'm gonna say big cat When do you think Hank is going to impregnate Sydney Sweeney or memes is going to get the lottery ball first. Mmm Better chance for Hank and Hank will eat his butt stuff though. Hank is fucking good looking.

Thank you. My guy, look at him today. He's wearing his Augusta green. Not really, but yeah. Yeah, you are. Six pack coming. It is. I can't wait.

Is it going to be, is it arriving before or after the dunk? Before. Oh, okay. So you're going six pack then dunk? Yeah, I'm going six pack summer, and then once summer's over, I'm gonna fully go back into dunk training. Because the six pack predates the dunk.

Yeah. You said you were gonna get six pack like three years ago. Yeah, and the time has come. I think we all said that. Yeah. Now, is there gonna be a real six pack or is it gonna be just like, oh, you got the dick bones?

We'll see. I mean, it might be like, you know, camera angles and stuff, but okay. Something will be there. Okay. Well, have Sydney Sweeney come and judge. Yeah. If it's a real six pack or not. Okay. Let's do hot seat, cool throw. And then we'll get to our interviews, uh, with Max Homa and Shane Bacon. Hot seat, cool drones brought to you by our friends at truly Truly unruly lemonade is here and it combines the high alk fun of truly unruly with everyone's favorite lemonade It's out now level up your lemonade eight percent ABV a hundred percent delicious For supercharged lemonade flavors bumpin blue Razz og original lemonade punched up pineapple wild pink Bumpin' Blue, Raz, OG, Original Lemonade, Punched Up Pineapple, Wild Pink, it's the official hard seltzer, pardon my take. Find Truly Unruly Lemonade at a store near you or visit trulyhardseltzer.com. It's about to be summer, it's about to be warm weather, there's nothing better than

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Dire wolves. Yeah. I had dire wolves. I actually put cats on my hot seat, but human society is good too. Romulus and Ramus. And Khaleesi. And Khaleesi. The world's first de-extinct animals born October 1st, 2024. They've been extinct for 10,000 years and scientists used like old DNA from fossils and just remade dire wolves.

This seems bad. So yeah, the source I saw said that they use DNA That's like it's somewhere between 10,000 and 72,000 years old to recreate these wolves Why but then but then Hank I dug a little bit deeper and went to a better source Alex Jones and Alex Jones says that the wolf resurrection story is tied to gain of function bioweapon research So I don't know if we should be so pumped up about these dire wolves then I actually went back and read a real source and they said that with these wolves they took gray wolves and Then they altered their genetics

So it's not like they're getting old DNA and just like duplicating them They're taking existing gray wolf DNA and they go in and fucking with it. I mean that's just playing of the apes. I've never seen Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park. And Planet of the Apes. Is it more Jurassic Park? I think it's more the entire plot of Jurassic Park was there's a zoo and we found dino DNA and bingo dino DNA. It's bad. This is really bad. Why are we doing this? I'm okay with it because it does bring us closer to potentially doing an actual Jurassic Park, which I think would be bad. That'd be a great idea. Really bad.

You wouldn't go to a Jurassic Park. I didn't go see the movie. Yeah, but in real life, if there's a zoo and it's like we got a fucking T-Rex and then over here we got Triceratops and you can pet can pet the triceratops you'd say not for me I think I just look from afar and by a far me on my phone Jurassic Park is one of those things that it's a piece of art and it's a book in a movie that's supposed to warn us about the dangers of playing God to me when I see that I'm like we should do that I want to I want to see dinosaur in real life I think I'm good with the direwolf I don't really want to fuck with the direwolf I'm cool with the

need horses yeah it makes no sense although cool in Game of Thrones but that's Game of Thrones that's Game of Thrones I don't want real life to be Game of Thrones I actually didn't know that dire wolves were a real thing outside of Game of Thrones either till I saw I thought it was like a parody thing I thought I was reading like a Game of Thrones Twitter account and I was like oh this is this is real Yeah, this is bad. Wait you you actually wouldn't go to a Jurassic Park. I didn't see the movie No, but I'm you wouldn't go see a fucking I have to see the movie first

And I'm not gonna see the movie I would go see Raptors. It'd be sweet, man I'd feel like like a fraud going to the Jurassic Park without seeing the movie first I'm the biggest loser. I've only seen Jurassic World. I've never seen Jurassic Park. That's worse than never seen. Yeah, I'm actually the same. Oh, I love that. Love that. Yeah. I mean, I've had this theory. People know it'll be, those know I had this theory that everyone has one or two of these movies. We did a Mount Rushmore last year of just one or two of these movies you just didn't see and you just haven't seen. You probably won't see. I'm going to watch it. Sh it shocks everyone. I'm gonna watch it. That's prompt. That's a promise to you. I Don't care I'm well, I'm telling you promising me the listener

Oh, I was like you're looking right at me. I don't give a fuck if you watch it or not Didn't we say when we did the Mount Rushmore that whatever we put on our Mount Rushmore We're making a promise to never see I Didn't put that on my man. I didn't put that on I rush for I Would not be seeing it. My cool throw is Caitlin Clark. A video footage released of her scoring 22 points in two minutes against an Iowa men's scout team in scrimmage. She was hitting like half court runners with a hand in her face. It looks like AI. It looks like one of those like old commercials, you know, like Michael Vick LeBron when they shoot

from full court or throw a football through the roof. Like she was just pulling up contested basically at half court swishing everything. Yep. Amazing. Ultimate cool thrown. Yeah. Also the ratings are like yeah I think it was 10 million less for the national championship this year. And that's why clips like that. Yeah I mean she's insane. I still think Paige Becker is gonna be a better pro. Kayla Clark's really good. I know I know she I think Paige is gonna be better. I'm a juju guy. See if she gets back from an ACL. Yeah, these shots are insane. Absolutely insane. Imagine being one of these guys that plays because these guys who play

against women's team are good basketball players. Yeah, like they're like guys who are good in high school. Actually, it looks like Max is playing center there. I don't know about there's a lot of headbands. Now that I'm looking at it again. That's like the guy wearing like three shirts and sweating There's a lot of headbands on yeah, yeah now that I'm looking at it again. Yeah, that's The guy wearing like three shirts and sweating through all of them. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean these are impressive shots No matter who is playing on defense. Yes agreed Okay, pfd your hot sequel to run. Yeah, I mean Hank Hank stole my my hot suit. Good job Hank. Thank you My cool thrown is jinxes cuz I I jinxed myself on Monday's part of my take hard, hard during the Uber Eats ad read saying it had been like four, four and a half, five months since I did the wrong place.

I came in on on Monday and I ordered my lunch to my house. Hank, by the way, Hank just got up and left in the middle of an episode, you'll see when we start to interview Shane Bacon later on today's episode, he walks in and he does the nicest, most casual little stroll like he's out for a Sunday walk to pick up the paper at the end of the driveway. Have you ever seen the movie signs? Yeah. Remember when the alien comes by for the first time? That's what Hank does across the camera. And then he sits down and Max is like, what's going on? Then Hank gets mad at Max for telling him, hey, we started the interview already.

He looks at his watch like you guys are the one we started. I think a minute early and he was like, I thought we were starting at night. He said, I thought we were starting at 9 45. And when he texted me, it was 9 45. What, what is something on fire? Is his, his car better be on fire the way he just walked out mid-sentence on you. He did just say, he texted us saying, one second, sorry. PFT, that was rude.

I mean, it's not rude because I've come to expect this from you. That's true. That was literally mid-sentence. He just stood up and left. He's like, I got done talking about the video that I saw Dave tweet earlier and an article that I saw somebody else retweet yesterday. So I'm going to get up my job. Here's done. My job's done. See you guys.

Where the fuck is he? What am I going to talk about for hot seat? Let me see what Dave said. All right. Yeah, I'll just say he's going to be so upset that this is this conversation. I mean, you can't just leave right in front of us and expect us to be like, oh, okay. If he had said something to us, like, hey, I gotta go shit. All right. He's probably jacking off. So you do that. So you say again, or actually all that master's talk. Um, yeah. So I, on Monday, I, the very next meal that I had after I made the statement of what the hot streak I've had, um, yeah, just sent it to the wrong place. And it's, it's, uh, in my house still because I brought it in when I got home. That's such a sad thing to bring inside. Yeah. You're the front door and here's a six hour old lunch. Yeah. And

you just bring it inside and put it in stare at it for the rest of the day. Don't say anything because I'm going to use it as my hot seat because he stole mine. Okay. So that's my my cool throw is jinxes. So reset the counter to zero. Yeah. All right. My hot seat is Hank. What was that? I said sorry. But what, what, what happened? Like someone was calling me like three times in a row. I thought it was an emergency. Who was it? My buddy, Jack. I didn't know what was going on. I said, okay. Yeah. We thought there was like a car on fire. I would have said it's an emergency. I just, did you want to say we also talked about the fact that you walked sonnard right in front of the camera to start

Shane bacon we I walked it if I had for whatever 944 and You the interview was touch started max has timestamps to say differently. That's not what I said. That's not what I literally said exactly that I said the interview started in one minute one minute early Yeah, I was confused. I thought I was like 15 minutes late because you guys were in rhythm. Is everything okay? Everything's fine. I said, what did Jack, I would have said, what did you see? No, I said, I'm going to call him back.

I thought it was emergency. I didn't get the text until after you had left. And I was like, that was, yeah, we were as a confident, just don't listen to the last five minutes. I, I pre, I said one second. Sorry. That's like text. Yeah. All right. That was my hot seat because I was dire wolf too. So thanks. Actually, you know what? Credit to Hank. He gave me a hot seat. Yeah. What I didn't I needed one. Yep. I appreciate that. What about hot seat? Drake made because the Boston media is asking if Drake may is a little bit of a diva getting jumbled. Yeah. What about hot seat Drake made because the Boston media is asking if Drake may is a little bit of a diva getting Joe.

Yeah. What happened? You're you are the Boston media. What happened? Nothing. They're they're looking for clicks. This is like a tale as old as time. I think Joe Milton wanted an opportunity to compete for a starting job.

Drake may doesn't make personal decisions. I miss this. This is actual story. No. job. Drake may doesn't make personal decisions. I miss this. This is actual story. No, drink maze or, or, uh, Joe Milton's not, this is very funny because it's not like Joe Milton's been in the league for like five years. Like it's my time. This isn't like a Steve young Joe Montana. I think he would, he would like a place where he can compete to be a starter potentially at some point. I don't know. Yeah, I don't feel like if he goes to

okay in his wildest dreams, if Dak gets injured, which probably that would never happen, but if it did, and he got in and he played awesome, you could see a world where the Cowboys would be like, we're going to go with with Joe Milton down the line. Right? If Drake may got banged up out for like four weeks, no chance he loses his job. You guys are delusional about Joe Milton. I am not. I think Joe Milton stinks. I love watching Joe Milton.

I'm delusional about Joe Milton. Yeah. I am knowingly delusional. There's a difference between saying you think he's good. I think he is fun. He's so fun. But he's not good. We never said he was good.

We said he was fun. But when he's good. He's so fun. It's not good. We never said he was good We said he was fun. Yeah, but when he but when he's good, I don't think he's very good fun, too I don't even think he's good enough to be fun Oh, he is when he throws the ball and I go dude. He threw an orange 106 yards I saw it and then he threw it and then he threw an orange 106 yards on a five yard out. Yeah Yeah, he's a fun that's fun. That sounds fun. I wish he was on the Cowboys. Me and people I also bet all flying conversations about this. I bet on him the game that he went out of bounds at the end. That was tough. That that I'll never think he's fun. That was just fun. That was not fun thing that he did. But what do you when he just lets it rip?

Yeah. All right. Then my cool drone PFT alluded to this with our Shane Bacon interview, but the cool drone is the master's food because the worst person, you know, uh has come out and said that it stinks Revelled this is like Four or five days ago. He said spoiler alert Uh talking about the master's food. It tastes as good as the price not a single item outside augustin national We'll get any attention on its merits alone there. I said it. Thank God he said it. Thanks, Darren. Oh, needed that. So this reasonably price, I dare, I say even affordable sandwich that you can buy at,

at the best golf tournament in the world that tastes very good is not like Jose Andre's chef quality. Okay. Yep. You know, you know what? All the worst teams have the best food. Yeah. The white socks didn't have incredible food. Didn't what Coastal Carolina said free concessions for the entire year. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. Let people enjoy things. Yeah, I just just the worst.

He really is the worst. It's really hard to like make the Masters not fun. He found a way to do it. You think Ravel has like a 40 year old barbecue sandwich from Augusta? Like in a glass case in his collectibles room? Probably. Definitely. Or maybe like probably a piece of the tree that almost killed someone would be more up

his alley. Yeah. Yeah. If there's been a death in Augusta, he's definitely got the death certificate. There has a person death in Augusta. He's definitely got the death certificate there. This person died in Augusta I think wait was it the dude that like one of the first guys that started Killed himself in one of the lakes there. So he's got his noose. Yeah, he's got the he's got the bullet. Yeah Okay, let's get to our interviews. We've got Max Homa and then

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About the Dodgers. Sorry, you didn't let me finish about the Dodgers. Oh we just lost a series dude like that's just unacceptable. It's really unacceptable. They shouldn't ever lose a series. So pretty devastated to have lost our second game of the season. Hopefully 160 and two is still alive. Yeah, it'd be nice. Show is pretty damn good. That's gotta feel good. Fuck dude. He's so God was thinking about it. There's so rare that there's an athlete that has hype in certain games and actually like pulls it off. Bryce Harper does it a lot. Uh, but show, Hey, like last year he needed, I think it was like two homers in a steel to get 50 50 or something. he had the greatest baseball game of all time and then last week or early this week he had his own bobblehead night bottom of the ninth first pitch sent it walk off it's just like

how the fuck do you do this yeah it's got a great sense of the moment yeah and congrats on your Lakers by the way all good all things coming up max dude other than my own golf game this shit is fucking on fire lately. Everything, everything. Maybe I needed to suck for my, my, my teams to thrive. I know Hanks enjoyed watching LeBron. Uh, it's been quite the ride this season. I did not think they were going to be that good. So this is a kind of shocking. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So how, how, how, how's everything else going? I know it hasn't been the best start to the year. I actually have some things to pick you up if you want if you want me to if you want me to just hop right into it.

Dude, hop in. OK. All right. So I was looking it up. I have three different publications that called you a star or superstar. So the daily express said PJ superstar splits up with caddy on eve of masters as statement issued. Then the Irish star said masters star issues emotional statement after splitting from caddy days before August. We can just pretend the other stuff isn't happening with just the star is what we're focusing on. And the mirror US said PGA tour star splits with longterm caddy just days before Masters. So that's pretty cool. And those are three massive publications. They are, I am subscribed to all three twice each. Yes. Yeah. No, that feels good. All

those, those, those are great headlines. Also, also I did some deep dives into some stats Do you know that this year at the Valero your last round that you played at the Valero? Which is the tournament right before the Masters? You actually drove the ball farther than your last round at the Valero last year when you went and finished third in the Masters and higher driving accuracy this year than last year in your last round at the Valero and last year, your last round of the Valero, you shot a 70 this year 71. So kind of right there. I've honestly been looking for some momentum and I can't lie. That is absolutely what I've

been looking for. The only hard difference is my last round of Valero last year was on a Sunday and this year was a Friday. Last round you missed the part where you had the details. I'm not a detail guy. Last round is last round. This is what I've been missing. Yeah. You're a superstar that's like actually you could say playing your best golf right now. And you were probably exhausted last year because you had to play twice as much golf the weekend before. True. Good point. That's dude all all season. I don't think people, people use this chest, not checkers things way too liberally. I am actually doing, I am the freshest person here. I have not played a weekend

in over like a month and a half. And I have been getting more rest, more time on my couch. Like all these guys are gonna be exhausted by the time the tournament comes in. I'm just cruising on it. Yeah. So this might be a dumb question, but if we're trying to find silver lining here, are you at a point

where you're able to just say, fuck it this week? Like, are we going to see, fuck it, max? My wife kind of pointed out, she goes, this kind of just feels like a golf tournament this year. Again, desert, not all a lot of hype for myself. So, uh, maybe it is just, uh, flyer into the radar. Um, yeah, I think it's a good spot. Yeah. Also, here's a little tip for you. If things don't go well this week, just get your kid and put them on, on your lap for your interview. Use them as a human shield. That always works work for Nick Sirianni. I have, I have learned that from Sirianni, uh, the, the press conference is genius. I wrote it down. I said,

if you ever struggling human shield, the kid he'll, he won't remember. He's too young. So I think that's, that's, that's always a play. Yeah. Hank, you have a question? He does later. You're getting real, Hank was getting real close to the mic with an open mouth. So that's my cue that maybe I'm going to have questions. I can wait. Yeah. Okay. He has a couple of questions. All right. so let's talk about it for real though, because obviously it hasn't gone great. You're split with Joe sucks like I mean, I Don't want to like have you talked like at length about it But like how does that how did that conversation go? I had to have sucked you guys have been childhood friends

You've been together forever, but was it something that like you kind of felt like? All right, I got to change something He probably feels it. We both feel it. Uh, and it just like, this is just the part of the game because everyone kind of goes through this. Yeah. Uh, first and foremost, I didn't do it. So, um, that, that was hard. I wasn't like massively shocked cause it's obviously been really hard, uh, on him. Um, but it's obviously been really hard on him. But it's just, it's, it's tough. I always promised that we were like friends first. And if he didn't want to do it, like he obviously like I'd rather be his friend than then like stretch something out and like maybe we resent each other or whatever. So looking back now, it was tough the first few days

to process, but looking back, I'm glad that he stepped up and did what he wanted to so that we don't have any ill will against each other. So I think that was good, but I mean, it does suck. The dude is one of my favorite people on the planet. We've made some awesome memories. So you don't ever want to like sully that, but it, yeah, it's just,

I guess it's just the ebbs and flows of like life in this game and it's stressful. And I think a lot of it, you know, we get shown so much and you know, we're making bogeys and birdies, but like there's a, we have a teammate that's going through it as well and they don't have near as much control over if I'm doing well. He could have the best week of his like career as far as just like saying the right things and doing everything right. But if I'm not executing, it doesn't reflect well on him. And I, you know, I think that it's, it's a tough job. And, but it does, it just sucks. But like I like I said it's I'm proud and happy that he spoke up when he felt that because you know you don't want to like I said drag some on and ruin our relationship for I mean it's been 28 years I've known him so now we can just go back to

to being boys playing golf at home and I still want to beat his ass when we play at home. So nothing's really changed too much. I just might see him a little bit less. Was there a part of you in the first couple of days after where you like wanted to send him a text being like, why couldn't you just cheat it on me? Like, why couldn't I call you with like another guy's bag or something like that?

Would have been easier that way. Yeah, honestly, yeah, that would actually have been pretty awesome. Just he actually cattyed the weekend at the players and I had to see it on TV. I caught you bitch. It makes a little less messy. Now you're new caddy. How's he with like people like I don't think I think the AWLs don't yell anything anymore, which I hope they fall in line. But have you given them any briefing with that? I have not. I got, I, there was a great, uh, great, uh, AWL like contingent last week in

San Antonio and I heard, you know, some spicy meatballs and I keep waiting for him to ask me, but I'm going to wait for him to ask before I bring it up. This week won't be a good one for him to know. Cause I don't think anyone week won't be a good one for him to know because I don't think anyone's got the guts to yell here. But next week is the two year anniversary of that lady calling me a pervert and Joe wanted to lose his mind. That's when he started his hiatus against you guys.

So I think we might have some explaining next week, but I'm waiting for him to ask. Okay, that's smart. What's the process like for finding a new caddy? How do you evaluate the guy and be like I think I think you could work with me Yeah, it's kind of messed up cuz I got like, you know since it wasn't obviously like I said my idea I hadn't really like thought about it at all. I called I Thought about it for a while. It's kind of a weird time of year cuz like this doesn't it's not you know, sometimes in the off season, there's always seems to be a mass exodus, and there's some shifts going on.

But I called Bones, who's one of the greatest caddies, if not the greatest caddie of all time, legend, one bunch of majors and all that, and I called him for advice. I was like, what do you think I should do? Who should I hire? He mentioned my caddies, Bill Harky, and he was like, What do you think I should do? Who should I hire? And he mentioned my case,

Bill Harky. And he's like, I think you should call Bill. And I've actually had Bill filled in for Joe once when Joe had something going on a year or two ago. And I don't just had slipped my mind. So it was like perfect advice. So gave Bill a call. Fortunately, he was free. And yeah, last week obviously didn't go great with the actual scores. But I thought the vibe was really good. We got along. It's tough because he's a Bay Area guy. So he likes the Giants and the Warriors. So

that's like a bit of a of a clash. But it does give me a reason to like, talk shit to him. And I think I am at my best when I'm talking shit. So I need I need my teams to keep being good and the Giants to keep sucking, although they're kind of good this year. And I think that might that might that might be like the catalyst. Yeah, did the thought cross your mind? You know, Jersey Jerry's got some caddying experience.

No, no. What do you say? Remember, I think I'd text you big cat. He'd DM me. He goes, Hey Matt, I would love to catty for you sometime. And I texted you something about Jerry text and message me. And you're like, Oh, I did tell him that you go by Matt. Yeah. Nice guy. Funny guy. I don't think we would, uh, we would work too well together. He seems, uh, he seems like a liability. Yes. Yes. At least at Augusta, there's just no, no way they'd let him in here. No. Yeah. Can you vape at Augusta? That's, that might be

a breaking point for him. I think all the, any question you have, Jerry would find out within the first day on Monday. Yeah. Yeah. You also like, it would definitely by day two, you would have to carry your own bag cause Jerry would be like, my legs hurt too in the first day on Monday. Yeah. Yeah. You also like it would definitely by day two you would have to carry your own bag because Jerry would be like my legs hurt too much. I'll still be here with you. That's a fact. Yeah. All right. So so and obviously the game we're working on stuff. Is it there. You made a lot of changes because you have the caddy change. You changed. You change your swing? Yeah. I've changed damn near everything. Uh, yeah, it's been chaotic. Uh, clubs coach, trainer, caddy,

clothes. Okay. I kept my beard. Somebody told me to, to shave, go back to the mustache. They thought that might fix it, but I just thought that that was just too much. That that, that would be would be one change too many yeah just a soul patch that would also bring back the pervert comments exactly I just I feel like that's dying down and I just can't I can't make although although when that was going on I was playing pretty fucking well so yeah listen I don't want to bring it back, but it just, I mean- If you want to.

It's like I sacrificed it, and it went wrong. Yeah. Listen, we can hit the nuclear code, but we're not going to. But you just tell us. If you give us the word- I think I need that pressure on me to play well without having to hit that button, because I don't want that at all. Yes.

But maybe I need to know that if that if it comes to it, like we might need to do it. Maybe that will motivate me better than just supporting my family and eating food. Yeah, we're happy to threaten you with that as much as you need. Just know that we might do it. We might go like Hank might go rogue and be like, okay, it's time to let's go back to the old us Let's go I gotta I gotta tell y'all a story. I don't think I've told you guys I think it was last year At Bay Hills the tournament it's Arnold Palmer's tournament and every year we get there

I'm always like reminded from his stories how good he was with the fans and sometimes, you know, I can get my head down I hope I haven't told you guys this already and So I was like, you know know what I'm gonna do better I'm gonna you know be more open you know when I'm playing and whatever and on Wednesday I'm signing autographs walk into between holes and this this older guy comes up he goes hey do you mind signing something for my son and I you typically don't personalize stuff because one you can just write their name on it and they will never know it wasn't me But he asked me to do it. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna turn a new leaf So I said, yeah, what's your son's name? And he says whatever and I write dear him and then his dad's like, yeah

Can you just say, you know, happy birthday so-and-so? From your favorite pervert and I'm like writing all this as I go and I get to that and I just stopped I'm like, here you go, man. Like, did you hear what you just said? Like an adult. And I just like had to leave. I was like there that, that, that shows you why you don't, you don't turn new leads. You can keep it the same. That's incredible. So I was 60. He has no idea what's going on. He had to like, he didn't even second guess his son. Oh, that's amazing. So, so with all the changes are you, do you feel, I, I've read some of the stuff you talked to and the one thing that I always give you credit for is like, you were very open about what you're

going through and trying to figure it all out. Do you feel like you're starting to turn a corner with all this change? Because it is a lot of change. Yeah. The change actually hasn't, it's just been the swing changes and like it's complicated, um, like to explain because I mean, people think I'm crazy. I think my wife thinks I'm nuts, but it feels incredible. Um, like it, it, it's feel it's felt better and better every week. There's little things in like tournaments that it's just, I don't trust things and like, I have new misses and you know, golf is, you know, the cliche is it's a game of misses. So you kind of play off like, you know, I typically always miss the ball, right? Like my whole career.

And now it's been less of that, but I have like this, it's like a subconscious fear of right. So it's like trying to just get comfy. But like, I literally, I just played the front nine at Augusta about three hours ago, I had the craziest day ever. I shot like seven under nine holes. I know it's, I know it's in there, but I've been doing that a decent amount, uh, just in practice.

Like last week, my practice Monday to Wednesday was a joke. And then I go out there and I'm four over through four in the tournament when it matters. So all this to be said, uh, it does feel good, but I mean, obviously it's got to show up when it actually matters at some point. But it's not for lack of effort. And I don't mind, you know, talking about it and being vulnerable about it because I do know that, you know, some people like to just play it cool and, you know, just avoid it. But I do think that you owe stuff to the fans at times.

And I've been really lucky to have some pretty awesome support from everybody, especially through you guys and the AWL. So I don't, I mean, it doesn't like hurt me to talk about what I'm going through. I know I'm trying my ass off to not suck. Yeah. And I do think that's important, but it does suck to suck. So at some point, hopefully this flips around hopefully this week. I didn't necessarily prove I could win as you always asked about the sermon, but I can sure shit get third. Yeah and

Third sounds okay Yeah, I mean it sounds like we're close if you're shooting seven under on a practice round. Yeah, just we're dying holes That's moving. We're very close man Yeah and also I would imagine like I know obviously you have to do it on the weekend and you have to do it in the tournament, but I would imagine that it's a lot better of a problem when you know that you can do it in practice

and then it's maybe not showing up versus like if you just sucked in practice too. Yeah. That would probably be like, holy shit, do I just suck at golf now? That was kind of the whole thing of last year, pretty much after Augusta, right after May, every week. My practice wasn't very good.

I wasn't playing well at home. And it felt like when I got to the start of the round on Thursday, if it didn't go well, I kind of knew it wasn't going to, because I just didn't really feel good about it. I could piece some things together here and there, but it wasn't good. And then kind of early this year through like the middle of January it felt similar where it just was like is just didn't feel great and then it clicked around.

It clicked at the Waste Management in Phoenix. Again I I grasp this all sounds crazy because I've missed all these cut since but I started to feel good. And when I was home, it felt good. And some practice rounds were really good. And like, definitely haven't felt like that. It's more frustrating, I guess, in a way, because when I do go to Thursday, I'm like super jazz to play. And then I bogey the first few and I'm in the same exact spot. But I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just think the tunnels like really really long like way too long Yeah, mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean listen. I I think you think that you're close. I believe you so thank you I want I want this to be the weekend

That'd be great if this was like the start of the turnaround for Max I'm so nice think about that you have to are if you finish top ten you have to come back on the show on Monday If you finish top 10, you have to come back on the show on Monday I'll take that as like a victory lap at this point Yeah, all right deal So one of the big changes at Augusta this year is the app the Masters app the best app in sports I assume that you download the app before you go there We're gonna get to see every single shot from the range sessions from everybody. Oh for real So yeah, so now we're gonna be like always hitting the ball

Well at the range and then we're gonna be able to figure out if we want to bet on that guy or not. In your experience, have you always played the best after you have good range sessions? Or is it one of those things where you've had the worst range sessions and then gone out there and shot the best round of your life? I've rarely done the latter. I've had some like surprisingly good rounds after having terrible warm-up sessions, but like arranged sessions But never like the best round. I Also have you know had the best range sessions of my life and then gone out and laid an egg

so I'm not a good one to like Base it off of I do know there's some guys. I've seen Justin Thomas do it. I remember he walked off a range in Chicago like four or five years ago at the BMW and I went to go say hi to him and he was white as a ghost. And I was like, man, that must've been a bad warmup. And then he went out and shot something like 62. I texted him like a couple of days after, I was like, what the hell, dude?

Like, you look like you were gonna cry. He goes, that was the worst warmup I've ever had in my life. And he ended up winning the golf tournament. I'm not quite like, I can't, I haven't quite done that one yet. So, um, definitely like I need in a way, some kind of good juju as the warmup goes, but I've seen some guys hit some awful golf shots and you go out and you think to yourself, oh, he's good. He doesn't have it. And you look at the leaderboard and he'll be right near the top. So, uh, I think it's, uh, it's to each their own on that one. What do you think about when you're practicing on the range, when you're getting ready for a round? Because when I go out there, I'm like, I'll hit, uh, like four shots with every club and then hope

that maybe like two out of the four look like golf shots. They go up. They're relatively straight. Then they go like kind of far. That's what I'm hoping for. What are you doing on the board? Forward. Yeah. Forward's good. I'm similar, man. I'll take maybe three out of four.

Each club would be good. Maybe that's what I should do. PFT is hit each, every one of my golf clubs on the brain and just start eliminating the ones that aren't working. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more like, I run through a little bit of technique stuff, but then I try to just like,

I work my way up towards driver, but I try to hit, you know, left to right, straight, right to left. And part of it is to like get them clean and better. But also part of it is like, if one of those shots feels like shit, try to like avoid it when I'm out on the course and then, you know, fix it, fix it in post for your guys world.

But yeah, so it's just like somebody once said it, you're just kind of getting in the engine running. Don't look too much into it, try to take some away from it. But like you said, there's days where my driver feels bad on the range and I'll go out on the course and strike the first few and it doesn't matter. So I think not attaching yourself too much to the range session is probably the key. Although I'm not the greatest at that. Yeah. All right. So the other change you made, which I actually am a very big proponent of, I wish I could, I actually texted you right after I was like, I'm jealous. You, you, you're off Twitter. I'm kudos to you. I wish that we could do the same. It is our job. You are so stuck. It's a little different than like actually it would be it would be

the same thing if I was like I quit golfing and then you text me like dude I'm so jealous. I wish I could. So we yeah we can't quit Twitter but so you're off Twitter and some things have happened in the last month so I compiled just a list of things that you missed and I, if you wanted to just be aware of them so that way you have a little bit of a base knowledge. Uh, cause you're not on, I didn't even know about this app. So hit me. Yeah. Okay. All right. So there's this dude Ashton hall who does these videos, uh, where he's on tick tock. Okay. All right. So you're on tick tock. So you got him. I saw that guy. Weird thing. Um, also a tick tock guy. Have you seen the door dash guy that, uh, he kicks the door dash order and then he gives the door dash person, the delivery

person, a bunch of cash. And then he whispers to him, I, yeah, he whispers to him, I have four dead bodies in my basement. And then the person just like, the person's like, all right, cool dude. Like you gave me the cash. I'm not going to tell anyone. Um, they're pretty cool. I'll send you one of those. Uh, wild wild, wild. Um, let's see. Uh, I saw a guy get trampled to death by an elephant. That was fucking crazy. Yeah. The murder stuff on X everything app has gotten a little, that was definitely a part of the, uh, the departure. Yeah. Yeah. That's part of the everything. Yeah. That's part. That is the I guess they're not lying. It's everything. Yeah. Rizzler throughout the first pitch at the Mets game and pretty good pitch. I actually

didn't see that. Yeah. Is that he's the kid right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Minecraft is like a big thing. Everyone's just talking about it. There's like brain. I still don't get that. I don't really know what that is. Yeah. I'm okay with that too. Yeah. Uh, torpedo bats. I, yeah, I've noticed that one. Okay. My home runs first game. Yup. You got that one. Do you imagine Otani with a torpedo bat would be sick. Uh, I got my account suspended, um, because I pretended to be hacked. So that happened. I heard, I mean, I do get that on the, on the pod. That was, I think PFT you said is the, the boy you cried wolf. Yeah. He pretended to hack so much that when he actually got hacked, nobody believed that his account actually got shut down. It was, it was poetic. Yeah.

And then, and then Rico Bosco drove a Greyhound bus. He wrote a Greyhound bus from New York to San Antonio. You probably missed that because you weren't on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. He lost the bet. So, Oh shit. Max had to be stoked. Yeah. Oh, he was very excited. So pretty much what this exercise was, you've made the right decision. You have missed absolutely nothing. Well, outside of maybe Rizzo Rizzo or the Mets game. That one you should have seen. Max, for the last like three months, we've all been pretending that the SEC sucks at basketball because they have a 500 record.

So you missed out on that one. You did miss out on that one. I can't live in a world where they're good at football and basketball. It's painful. It's bullshit. Yeah. So you missed nothing.

So good job getting off Twitter. I am very jealous. That felt nice. Yeah. Yeah, like when you, it's one of those things where if you leave the internet for an hour You feel like you missed everything and then if you leave the internet for a week, you're like, oh, I didn't miss shit like nothing really, you know how nice it is to have someone come up to me or or text me a video and Be like look at this video and me not have to lie and be like

oh wow so funny I didn't totally didn't see that three days ago before I even opened it like it's got embarrassing at some point my wife and I talk about the videos now she'll never believe this and I'm like no you're right I would not have ever known that instead of lying and being like oh no I didn't say I saw that while driving yeah yeah right so you also get to hear people explain to you internet stories and they, they have to explain to you why they're important. And it always takes like 30 seconds. Whoever the new Rizler becomes at some point, I want to meet somebody who has to explain that kind of thing. Okay. Yes. Yes. That's yeah. Cause explaining the Rizler to, to common folk is

very, it's very difficult to do. It's a, you can't, it's a no win. And then if you start to talk about how his dad's not the Costco guy, it's all. Yeah, that's, you always have to have that conversation too. It's like, oh, now I get it. That's his son. Actually, no, he has a son. No.

Yeah. And he's that guy. Hank, do you have any- He's like quasi adopted this guy. Do you have any questions for our dear friend Matt? Yeah, Matt. Hey, what's up? Big fan. Did you just call him Matt with a P? Matt. Love what you're doing over on TikTok. I said, you know, my personal golf game,

something I've been working on this upcoming season, is maybe taking more club and having a little more control than trying to hit the perfect number. And I just wanted to get your thoughts on that going into the year. Good question. That is a great question. That was way more serious than I thought.

That's awesome. That is awesome. There's a saying when it's breezy, swing easy. So just imply, employ that no matter if it's not windy at all. Does any of this have to do with the fact that PFT bombs it by you and then you fell for a while like you needed to have an ego? Yeah, only on the driver, but yeah, yeah, definitely.

I mean, it's more, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to eliminate the big mistakes and just try, trying to hit consistent shots. What do you mean only on the driver? Or like that's the only club that I hit farther than you? Well, consistent, I mean, you can't really hit any. That's fair. I quit, I quit than you? Well, it consists, I mean, you can't really hit the other clubs. That's fair. I quit playing golf.

I'm only focusing on driving. Wait, it sounds like he hits all of the clubs two out of four times very well. That's a good point. He also, yeah, his distance, he hits it far, but it's usually like 20 feet over the green. But that's, that's. Yeah.

And I always feel awesome. I'm like, damn, I clubbed down on that one and went too far. That's actually the best way to play golf. I've always said, Max, that it's way better to suck at golf than it is to be really good at golf. Because if you, if you're really good at golf, you hit one bad shot and you're like, fuck, you get super pissed off. I suck at golf. If I hit one shot that looks like a golf shot per hole, I'm like, this is awesome. Playing golf is so much fun. Yeah.

Yeah. I've been trying to do that. Like when I hit a really good shot, I'll just sit there and be, and look around at my team and be like, let's just soak that one in, huh? Yeah. That's pretty awesome.

It's such a pure piece of joy. I love it. Yeah. Yeah. I do miss that. Hank, I think you're on the right track though. I respect that you've come to that. That is how I would say the, that's the road to good is That is how I would say the,

that's the road to good is to eliminate the big mistakes by not over swinging. I love that. Also implying that you're not good right now. Yeah. I'm not. You're on the road to good. Another question, we, you know, you and I back in the day

used to run around for dance collecting win after win in Call of Duty. We're back. I saw the map came back. I was curious if you're going to get back into the game. I'm a hundred percent getting back. I have one more tournament after next week and I will be back. I saw the map came back. I was curious if you're gonna get back into the game. I'm a hundred percent getting back. I have one more tournament after next week and I will be back.

My two of my buddies are coming this week and they're like my crew. I play with Josh and Steven and Zach and Josh texts, he's never come here before. And he texts me, he goes, dude, is it cool if I bring the Xbox and we game in the living room? I'm like, no, dude, that's like straight up not cool. Like, I have my whole family here,

I have my wife's friends here, I also have to sleep. So we're like not gonna rip for the rest. Also, like outside of like him taking over your rental house in Augusta to play Call of Duty, I would be like, it's not cool because I would just be pissed I'm not playing with you guys. Like walking by your friends. Also, now I'll be at friend and they wouldn't even come to the range with me. I love that. That's fine. That guy, that wait, that was Josh who said that. Yeah. Josh rocks.

Dudes rock. Josh, you're, you're, you're welcome to play with Hank anytime. Cause that guy we're all fucking right. He's got his priorities set. No he's he's priorities. His priorities are always in check. He is definitely usually my buddy Steven. He comes every year is my wife's punching bag and I guarantee you Josh takes over that. Max one thing that Hank is good at in golf is putting he's become a good putter and oh, yeah I don't know if we've asked you this question before but I'm always curious to know like at Augusta if you dropped Someone who's on the road to good like Hank But maybe a decent putter if if he got to start every hole at Augusta from the furthest point away from the hole on

The green so he just asked. Yeah, what what do you think a guy like Hank would shoot? Shit hole on the green. So he just asked him what do you think a guy like Hank would shoot? Shit. Like how hard are these greens? There, there are, if you got to actually place it on like, what's the worst spot you could go to? Yeah. Yeah. The farthest spot every time. Farthest or worst depending on the hole. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, shit that, I mean, you wouldn't shoot like in the eighties, but.

How many times do you think you're going off the green? Like, like more than half. Early, I think you would catch on, but early you're probably sitting at like a 60, 40. No, that's too high. Like a 40, 60 rate. I just think you would three putt like a lot and you might sprinkle in a four putt.

I do think you would two putt as the day went on. Cause not every green's crazy, but you would just, I mean, that's a thing I would never suggest doing that. That would, that would humble you. That would kill that. That would suck. Yeah. Cause you would start on the green and still be making threes and fours a lot. So that would be tough. Yeah. That'd be a good video. Yeah. Hey, Augusta, you let you let dude perfect go down there with your tennis rack It's yeah, what the hell laser tag and shit on the fairways down there. Just let Hank putt. Yeah, let Hank putt. I like that Alright max. I got one last question. It's been fun catching up with you ready to go. You have one last

I have one what favorite hole all right favorite hole Fuck and we did this last time. Yeah. But do you have a new favorite? I can't get stuck in the same position as I was last time. So I'm just going to say the 13th hole at Augusta, the golf hole. OK, no, the actual correct answer is mouth. Mine's the vagina.

Yeah, I know. I wrote it down after the last year's, but just didn't have the guts. All right. My last question, rowback question, rhoback.com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com, promo code take. Real question. So you're competing this week in the Masters. PFD and I are actually competing in a similar tournament. We're in the BarstoolFT and I are actually competing in a similar, you know, tournament. We're in the mini, the Barstool mini golf tournament that is taking place. Oh, you did

that last year, right? Yeah. So, so PFT and I are on the same team. We're doing teams during Ryder cup style. Um, I am, I am quintessential like start hot and then just slowly like fade away and just become a headcase. Are there any tips for putting and just not being an asshole at the end of the rounds like I usually am? I don't know if I'm the right guy to ask that. No, you are, it's mini golf. Dude, the best advice for the mini golf thing is just like be, sorry guys, my phone was dying,

I'm just on the move Be what the fuck Hold on guys, we're about to have a Problem. We'll keep this in phones about to buy here. Let's try this one by the toaster Be funny if Josh was already there and he already like fucked up a breaker. Yeah, he probably It'd be funny if Josh was already there and he already like fucked up a breaker. Yeah, he probably short-circuited his joints. Dude plugged in.

Creativity, dude. Just be creative, be a kid again, you know? Mini golf is for kids. I'm gonna become a kid again. I'm gonna become a kid again. Do you have any funny one-liners that you can say when you're putting? Because I feel like I've heard them all.

There's always an old guy on the course that's like, that puts like my junior prom, all. There's always an old guy on the course that's like the puts like my my junior prom, all lips, no hole, you know, that sort of thing. Really get the boys laughing out there. That that's that's a pretty much a banger. There's some like if you hit one, didn't feel great, you say that's and it goes in a decent spot. You say something like that's a condom.

It didn't feel great, but it's safe. That's a that one usually in a decent spot. You say something like that's a condom. It didn't feel great, but it's safe Usually gets a couple chuckles. Yeah The junior prom ones like all time though. I don't know really how you beat that one. You're the jokes guy I feel you can make you should start your own first one. I could yeah tell you what I'll write a couple bangers for it I think it was actually when we were walking with you at the BMW here in Chicago There was one of the guys that was in your pro. Yes, and he said that joke I think four times yeah in six holes like he kept saying but there were different people around him So he got to do the material again. Yeah

Like you got to live the most genuine laugh the most genuine laugh. Yeah. New people. Yeah. That's the tough part about these programs is they, I mean, golf doesn't have like loads of jokes or lots of funny people. And we abuse the same joke over and over again. So you should be our hero and please give us a new joke.

Okay. Left at a foot short story in my life. Oh, that's a good one. Cause I'll get some like you don't want to, if only I had a couple more inches. Yeah. Yeah. You don't want, you don't want to have any really funny jokes. They all have to be like just kind of neutrally funny. Yeah. Just like a quick laugh and we move on. Yeah. Okay. They're all like that. Did you get that? Right. Yeah. Like you guys get it and everyone's like, yes, I'll get in the lab, but then they take it and do the same thing. Yeah, it's all good. Um, all right, Max, you're the best man. Uh, thank you and uh, let's go, let's go, let's go fucking shoot some, some low scores at Augusta. Let's

talk the fucking world. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. You can do it. Yeah. Just maybe, maybe put like a picture of Shohei in your wallet and just look at him for inspiration. Like if he can be so awesome, so can I. Would the golf equivalent of Shohei be? Like a guy that can pitch and hit caddy and golf caddy and golf. It's a low bar. We actually discussed that. It would be like Scotty Scheffler playing golf both right and left handed and kicking our ass both ways. Yeah. I think it would just be you guys just not being pussies and carrying your own bag. It's that low of a ball. That's actually way simpler and also feels way shittier. But you're not being a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Just carry your bag or, or getting a, a federal investigation. We haven't had one of those, I don't think out here. So yeah, yeah. We

need a branch out. Yeah. Um, all right. Thank you, Max.'t think, out here. Yeah. We need to branch out. Yeah. All right. Thank you, Max. You're the best man. Yeah. We're rooting for you, so let's go do it. Appreciate you guys.

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feeds for masters.com all week. So make sure you check that out. Uh, Shane masters week, there's nothing better. How are the vibes? Are you in Augusta already? Yeah. And Augusta vibes are high. Weather yesterday, not ideal. Obviously it rained just like all afternoon, all evening, kind of rained into the night, but I think the the weather the rest of the week is going to be pretty epic so vibes are high, Rory's all fired up, a lot of players very very excited about what the golf course looks like and how it's going to play. Obviously had some some damage from some of the weather you know like late last year but I think the golf course is actually going to play a little bit better because of it. Okay I like to hear that because we were saying like there's nothing that bums you out more than like looking at the forecast of masters

week and seeing like a day where it's going to be, you know, they're not going to play or the rain's going to affect it. So that's great. Uh, now let's, I don't know what direction we want to go in. Uh, I guess actually the most interesting storyline to me is this does feel and you can judge this statement. This like this is gonna be one of the best chances that Roy McElroy has to win the Masters because he is Playing really good golf Where is it mentally though? Because that's kind of it for Rory the last few years where it's he's it's not that he's been playing bad It's that these you know tragic things keep happening at the end of

Championships or big tournaments. Is it, is it there in between the ears for Rory this week? You know, it feels like it is, you know, Rory, when he was winning major championships, he was kind of the, the bad-ass, if you will, that walked around the golf course. And I think Rory is such a normal person that as he's gotten a little bit older, he's lost a little bit of that. And it seems like it's back this year. I mean, just the way, even at the players, he kind of loses the lead late, steps up in that playoff and hits like a 335 yard drive right down the middle. And it's like, yo bro, come and catch me now.

So I like the way he's gone about his business this year. I like the way he's talking. He gets very excited about this tournament. I think a few years ago, he holds that bunker shot and said, it's the first positive vibes I've had here in about a decade. And obviously the game is there. I mean, I think that's more important even than the mental side of it is, are you playing well? He's never won this many times on the PGA tour headed into the masters. And I mean, I think he's the favorite, you know, you can say Scottie's the favorite. Obviously Scottie's

done some epic stuff over the last couple of years, but just in terms of playing good golf Rory's playing as good at golf in the early part of the season as he's ever played. Yeah. And stealing people's phones. That's the edge. That's the asshole Rory that maybe needs to come back. Tough to do it here though. You know, tough, tough spot to steal phones.

That's true. That might, that might throw them off, but it is maybe the most epic scenery ever to speed away after disappointing loss, right? Like just peeling out down Magnolia lane. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm assuming you still have to abide by whatever the speed limit is down that road, but not in Georgia. That's not Kirby

smart would disagree. Yeah. That's true. So I had a question for you, because I saw a journalist that's down there, that had a an interesting take on the scenery and the vibe at Augusta, want to get your thoughts on it. This individual said not a single food item at Augusta. Want to get your thoughts on it. This individual said not a single food item at Augusta national would get attention were it not for the cheap price. What would you score that take? It's a really bad take. Was that Revelle that said that? Yeah, that's a bad one. It's a pretty brutal one. I mean, you know, like I sit in this booth here for six or seven hours a day starting on Thursday, I will have three pimento cheese sandwiches a day likely.

That's where I lean. I know you've had a you've had one before PFT, but you know, I think the food is great. And I think the ice cream sandwich is like one of the best ice cream sandwiches in the world. And obviously the prices help. But you'd eat this stuff away from the golf course, you'd eat this stuff away from the Masters. Yeah, yeah, it's tough to make a bad pimento cheese sandwich, too So as long as it's fresh then I think that's like a case to do you like if you mess that up?

Maybe don't cook. Yeah, right exactly Go ahead. I was just gonna ask an actual question about a golfer. John Rom is a guy that I'm keeping my eyes on Yeah, so according to I think the world golf rankings, he's not playing good golf right now. But when you look at how he's actually been playing, when you watch him play, it seems like he's very capable of winning. Do you think that John Rahm has a chance to come back and win again? Absolutely. I mean, I think he's probably my top three favorites head into this week.

Interesting fact about John Rahm, he's played 18 live events in his career, never finished outside the top 10. Now, you know, it's not as deep fields as you obviously can see on the PGA Tour at major championships, but top 10s are top 10s and you're beating a lot of people in that regard. He's played solid this season as well. I think last year in terms of the way John Rom

had to go about his business, joining live, comes to all the majors, he even talked about it today in his press conference. It was awkward. I mean, and it was awkward for him to be answering those kind of pre-tournament questions always about why'd you leave and things like that. This year, it seems a little calmer for everybody involved. Obviously a lot of stuff on the background happening.

But in terms of the players, I don't think anybody really cares anymore. Where you play, you play live, you play PGA Tour, whatever the case may be, come here and show up and do what you're able to do. And I mean, John Rahm is the type of golfer, players that play well at Augusta play well at Augusta. I know that seems like a simple statement, but the Jordan speeds and the Scotty Scheffler's and the Jack Nicklaus is in the Tiger Woods and the Phil Mickelson's like these people show up whether they're in form or not. And they typically have good weeks. John Rom's one of those players that shows up at Augusta and is going to play well simply because his

game fits this golf course as well as anybody in the field. Yeah. The other storyline I thought of was, you know, Tiger Woods such a force of nature in golf for the last 20 years, even when he's not playing and he's missed some masters, he's still, you know, talked about, but this does feel like the first year where it's, I don't want to say it's over cause I hope he plays again, but it does feel kind of over where it's like, you know, the Achilles injury and he already was already banged up and the leg problems. Is it, can you feel that vibe where it's like that force of nature is no longer here and it really is now the young guys and it's Scotty and it's Rory and it's John Rom and all these guys.

Yeah. I mean, this is the opposite of the Revelle take by the way, big cat. This is a very good take on your behalf and I'm proud of you for it. Big J journalism stuff. He sucks up a lot of oxygen at golf tournaments, major championships, whatever the case may be. We don't see him play a lot of golf, so when he shows up at the Masters, it's a big deal. People want to watch Tiger play golf.

I have some friends that are coming for the first time this year, and the moment he announced the injury, it's like, oh, man, I was so excited to watch Tiger. That being said, I think the focus right now is so much on Rory Scottie, everybody else, so many young players, as you said, Big Cat, can Ludwig play like he did last year. I think people are kind of anticipating what to see for Max Homa this year. And Augusta, obviously, is not playing his best golf, but he played so well here a year ago. Those players are popular.

You know, Victor Hovland's popular. Xander Schauffele's popular. John Rahm's popular. And I think right now the focus moves away from, what are we going to see from this guy we hadn't seen play golf in eight months, to let's watch the best players really when the gun goes off, how they're going to be able to go about their business.

Yeah, Ludwig Aberg. He played really, really well last year. He had a great chance on Sunday until the back nine. Hank says that, no, he cannot play well at Augusta. Well, no, I'm just, hold on, we gotta put on Hank's mic. Hank disagrees. Uh, I, nope. You shook, you shook your head no, fact or fiction? Hank, Hank not gonna win? I'm just curious. No, I, I, I would like him to win. I'm just curious why his odds have

been dropping so much this week. Just been playing bad golf. Like he's just been missing cuts and he hasn't been very consistent. You know, he's one of those guys like when it's dialed, he's extremely consistent and he's been extremely inconsistent this season. And I think when that's the case, it's hard to dive into a guy considering the way some of the other players are playing. I mean, we mentioned Rom, obviously Scottie has improved a bit and he's coming off his best putting performance in like 18 months in Houston. I mean, that's a big deal for Scottie Scheffler considering the ball striking. You know, there's Rory and everybody's talking about Rory, even Xander playing pretty well at the Valspar after the injury. I think there's so many

players that are quote unquote in form that it's hard to lean on a guy, even if he played well here a year ago to Hank's point when he's not playing great, those odds are going to kind of continue to decrease. How much of, uh, how much stock do you put in like how the guys are playing going into the masters? Or is it a tournament where everyone knows the course everyone's played the course that yeah, you could be playing poorly and then you show up and it's like, Hey, we're, we all know this course and we all are ready to go. Like how

much, how much is it current form? I think it's a big deal. Um, in terms of just the, the, you talked about the mental side of stuff for Rory. I think it's a huge, huge deal for these the, the, you talked about the mental side of stuff for Rory. I think it's a huge, huge deal for these players because, you know, this is the date they circle, just like we circle it, right? We're so excited for April, you know, March madness ends, and we roll right into the masters.

These players think about this thing for six months, you know? So I think when you're not playing well and you get to Augusta and you're searching on the driving range and you're going through practice rounds, hoping to find something, I think that's hard to kind of get into a mental state where when Thursday starts, you know, people don't talk about how tough the first hole is at Augusta, right? I mean, you step on the first tee at St.

Andrews or Pebble Beach, you know, it's relatively friendly handshake. Augusta's first hole is one of the hardest first holes in all of golf. I'd say the only one that really rivals it is where they're playing the U S open this year at Oakmont. Like that first hole will kick you right in the teeth, just like number one here at Augusta will. So when you're not in form and all of a sudden, you know, you're one over through three and you've got to play the toughest stretch of the golf course four through six, all of a sudden you're four over, it's a hard place to make up ground. So I think current form is as important as how you've played in this event over the years.

Okay. So where are we at with Bryson and all this? Because I know that he's still, he's switching his ball, right? Like going in, going into Augusta, he's not sure what ball he's going to be playing. That doesn't seem like a great time to, when you're like Bryson, you micromanage every single part of your game, not knowing what ball you're going to be hitting feels like it's a, a big red flag for me, but maybe I'm wrong. What do you think about that? Yeah, I don't love Bryson this week just simply because of form. I mean,

to Big Cat's point about Ludwig, I think the same thing really about the way Bryson plays. Now that being said, PFT, he's the same guy that changed his driver before the final round of the US Open last year and then still went on to win. So obviously he isn't scared to change stuff up in the golf bag. But I don't love Bryson at Augusta in general. I just don't think it's a great golf course for him.

I don't like him this week simply because of that. It's, there's too many touch shots around the green. There's too many of these little feely shots. Bryson's a power guy. He can overpower Augusta. I mean, you know, they famously said it's a par 67, but I think in terms of how you've got to go about your business on this golf course

and what's succeeded over the years here, guys like Scotty, guys like John Rahm, great hands around the greens, able to pitch the golf ball when they get in trouble. I don't think that's Bryson strength. And I think that's one of the reasons that he can struggle. And you know, another thing about somebody like Bryson, he's so technical. You can't use any of that technical stuff, not even in practice rounds at Augusta. And I think that takes, you know, an arrow out of his quiver, if you will. Yeah. So, so the touch shots who who outside of the usual suspects is a lead at those touch shots that gives them a better

chance at Augusta? Maybe they don't drive it, you know, as long as everyone else, but who is the touch shot God or the guys right now that are playing the best around the greens like that? Yeah. I mean, the, the best right now, modern player, this is not going to shock you as Scotty. I mean, the pitching and shipping is insane. Russell Henley has been great in that department. I think he's going to be my pick this year for the Masters. I think Russell Henley is kind of not just a sleeper, but he's having a great year.

And I think he's one of those guys that can really lean on that part of his game. Great ball striker, which is important. But I'll accept Straka a lot as well this week in terms of just players that are maybe away from those top five names that I think are playing in a level of form where they could show up here and do something special. And they've also kind of played well at Augusta before.

I'm not gonna take a guy that's finished 50th every time he's been here. But if you finished in the top 10 and you've had a couple of good finishes, I like your chances. And I think those are a couple guys off the, you look at the last few winners, it's like Scotty, Rom, Scotty, Hideki, DJ Tiger. Like these are big names. Occasionally you get a Patrick Reed or a Danny Willett or a player like that, that wins at the masters. And I would not be surprised if this is the year that happens. All right. I have an advanced analytics department in my brain that picks my master's winner

in the advanced analytics are just pick your friends. So I'm betting on Brooks again. Can he win it? He can win it. And I figured you'd ask about Brooks big cat. So I have something for you. He only finished. He's as I was only at one season where he didn't finish in the top 10 in all four majors. That was in 2022. The next year almost once the masters wins the PGA. So I'm going to lean since you're throwing a stat at me, I'll throw one right back at you played pretty poorly in the majors a season ago I'm gonna lean, since you're throwing a stat at me, I'll throw one right back at you. Played pretty poorly in the majors a season ago,

but you know, Brooks is one of those dudes that shows up and thinks he's the best player on the golf course. So I think Brooks played well here before, obviously as a guy that believes in what he's doing now. He was just hitting balls on the range a little bit ago and he was kind of hitting these like toe hooks that I do not like, but that's why the range is there. Okay, yeah, so we can practice.

That's one thing that I don't like about being able's why the range is there. Okay. Yeah. So we can practice. That's one thing that I don't like about being able to see every range shot now on the app is that guys go out there and they fuck around some, they work on new stuff. And then you look at that, you're like, Oh my God, he's shanking everything. I got to bet against this guy. It's like too much information. Yeah. It might be overload.

It's a little bit like with the odd stuff now, right? Where you could basically figure out anything that makes your bet seem like the smartest bet in the world. You know, I mean, there's a, you know, there's, there's like a million different things that tell you that Florida is going to win or Houston's going to win. Yeah, exactly. So speaking of the course though, what have we done in the past year that has changed at Augusta?

What should we be on the lookout? The trees, nothing, which is, which is a bit of a surprise. I mean, they typically tinker a little bit with yardages or new tee boxes and stuff like that. And it's pretty much what it was. I mean, outside of the damage from the hurricane, it's going to be in play how it's played in the past. Now, we had all that rain, so it'll be interesting to see if it plays a little softer on Thursday into Friday. But I imagine if we don't get the rain that they're talking about Friday afternoon, I think it'll be spicy spicy on the weekend

Yeah, what about the trees? Yeah, what about the trees? Somebody here said that Trees are different there's gonna be some different trees. I mean, obviously, like I said, the hurricane was bad in this area I mean some trees came down but not really any of the effect of golf course John Rom was at a press conference and he said the one thing he was told he hadn't played the second nine yet in a practice Round but he said the one thing he was told, he hadn't played the second nine yet in a practice round, but he said the one thing he was told is, you know, 10 is that massive dog leg left, right? And like basically all the players these days hit three wood cause they can't turn a driver over.

And he said, he's heard that you can now squeeze it through a little window on the left side and cut it into the fairway. And then the moment he said it, he goes, well, they'll probably put a new tree up by, by the first round. Cause I said something, but really, really inside of, you know, trees behind 15 green that

don't come into play. Nothing's really going to change in terms of the way the golf course plays. All right, that's good. I like that. I like a little tradition at Augusta. Don't make me learn new stuff every year there. I like to like to know the ins and the outs of the course. I just saw this morning. They published the mowing reports. Are you a mowing report guy? I got that as well. I actually wrote the numbers down for you because I figured you'd like that PFT. But I mean when the mowing report hits, you

know, it's master's week. Like I'm ready for it. I'm ready to roll. Like what length of the rough? What about the teas? All that stuff is, uh, is incredibly important to all of us nerds. Yeah. Any, uh, any surprises in the mowing report? No, no. The report was pretty solid. It's like, they almost know what they're doing. You know, it's almost like they've mowed this place before. Gotcha. Uh. All right. Let's, let's talk some long shots. Some guys that no one's talking about because obviously it is, you said it, you know, the big names have won this tournament, but if there were to be a name that is not someone that everyone's like, Hey, look at this guy. He's playing great. Who do you have your eye

on? All right. So he's a long shot in terms of number, not a long shot in terms of history. I think Phil's got a chance. Oh! I think Phil has a legit chance this week. He's been playing some solid golf and kind of going back to like what plays well here is a great iron player and somebody that's excellent around the greens.

I think Phil, he finds himself in contention, it feels like every two years. So I think Phil in terms of extreme long shots I'm a big fan of his number this week. That would be so much fun if Phil was in the mix. That would be awesome Yeah, I need you know what? I I'll tell you this big cat. I like a lot of the live guys like I like Brooks I like Sergio. I like Phil this music to Hanks here. He's a live head big time I mean, they're all playing well. I mean, if you watched a row on Sunday, I mean, all the guys hanging around the top of that leaderboard were basically flying up that night to Augusta. You know, it wasn't like

the guys that aren't in the field. So I would be non-shocked if a live, if there were two or three live players like tie to top the leaderboard, you know, on the second nine because Hank, well, last year, what'd you do? You did all live players to finish like top 20 and none of them did. No, no, no. I did you do you did all live players to finish like top 20 and none of them Did no no no I did a round robin 10 live players finished top 20 I needed like four or five to like make money. I think only three or four did so I Lost a little bit of money I didn't make a lot of money

but my thinking is like a lot of the live guys have won and The pressure on Sunday for a guy that's won they've experienced before they know what to do They don't feel it as much as a guy that maybe hasn't won before. And all of a sudden they're playing Sunday at Augusta, shitting their pants a little bit. Yeah. I mean, Hank is such a diehard Liv fan. He knows the four aces off the top of his head. Don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Hank, what are they? Uh, it's half of the ACEs. Yep. Come on. Hey, I, I, even I know one of them. Oh, well, Hey Shane, where are we with the live PGA merger that was announced like a year ago that no one talks about it anymore. Who knows, dude? I mean, honestly, nobody

knows. It's, it's funny now too, cause they, the players get asked about it anymore. HV3, come on. Who knows, dude? I mean, honestly, nobody knows. It's funny now, too, because the players get asked about it. And they're even like, nobody knows. Who knows? Nobody's telling us anything. We're just trying to play golf. And I think John Rahm answered a question in his press conference.

They asked some questions at the end of the presser in Spanish. And he said, I just want to play with these guys more often. You know, it was basically his answer. But nobody knows. I mean, I feel like every week you hear rumors, but nothing changes. Nothing happens. What happened to the framework? I was told that we had a framework in place. Frame broke, man. I think the frame is like disintegrated. It

fell on the ground. Like, I don't know what happened to the damn thing. But, you know, I mean, like, I don't think Liv wants to go away, you know, and I think that's one of the important pieces of this is like, Liv still wants to exist in terms of golf tournaments and team golf and things like that. And I don't think the PGA tour is a big fan of that idea, if they're going to merge. So I think, you know, for Liv, it's, we don't want to lose everything we're doing. We understand the importance of merging, but that seems to be where everybody's

stuck right now. Yeah. What about the journalists lottery? When do we find out who gets to play Augusta? Oh, I think that I think that drops Saturday I think they normally announce that on Saturday, maybe around lunchtime. Have you played? No, never gotten picked. Oh How many how many journalists enter their names into the lottery every year? So also everybody that hadn't played it I think it's over the last seven years gets to put their name in So let's I would just say the numbers probably around maybe 150 in the lottery. Now I don't know how many get picked, but I'd say of the, let's say 300 people here working, I've had 150 put their names in.

So you know, if there's four groups or whatever, then you know, you've probably got a 8% chance or 6% chance or something. Okay. Yeah. Although it was very funny when they took somebody that had never played golf before last year. I like, I kind of like that. Yeah, that should be, we always ask about that around the us opens. Like, I mean, remember when, when Dave used to do that, when he would play the mulligan us open game and it's like, what are you going to shoot? If you have unlimited mulligans, it's like, what is a person that's never played golf going to shoot around this golf course? Right? I mean, I think that's, uh, that's at least something we can compare the best players in the world

too. Yeah. So we actually have, so we had, we have, uh, we interviewed max as well. He's gonna be on this episode and he, we asked him this, so we'll ask you, you this, if Hank started at the worst spot on every green and had to only putt, what would his, what would his, would he, would he be in contention at the end of Sunday is he putting so he's putting one on every Green but in the worst place you possibly be whether that's the farthest distance away or the place where it's the toughest with the brakes I mean if he does he have a caddy no no caddy. Oh I think he could shoot even par or better. I think he could for putt every green Okay I think he could shoot even par or better. I think he could for putt every green Okay, all right

Are there some that it would be like a disaster where like is there a specific Green on the course where it's like everyone knows there's one little spot and if you don't hit it, you're just fucked Yeah, like he would probably putt off the green on nine. He'd probably putt off the green on 13 He'd probably putt off the green on 15 So the key for him would be just to not put it in the water. But I think, like I said, I think he's going to two put a couple, right? Just by, you know, virtue of luck or making an eight footer. I mean, I know you dog Hanks game a lot, but I mean, I've seen Hank make eight footers on YouTube before, right? So I mean,

he's capable of nothing else. Well, you've also seen him miss eight footers. Well, I've seen him miss a lot of those. But I mean, I think, you know, just in general, he's going to eventually to putt a green here or there, which picks you up a couple of shots. I, I think he's in contention. I think he shoots around even par every round from the green. Okay. We got to make that happen. Oh man. What would it take? What? All right. So if I said to you, uh, for, or if I said to all the golfers, you get to pick one club that is perfect for the masters. Whatever, you know, your, your shots on it, that specific club is just perfect all week. What club are they picking? This year, it's probably the mini driver. That's

going to be in a lot of bags. So, um, you know, the, the, basically the popularity of the mini drivers popped over the last couple of years. And the idea is you can turn it over a little bit. And obviously right-handers at Augusta have got to hit that draw. I think you're going to see a ton of the mini drivers in the bags this week from a lot of players. A lot of the tailor-made dudes, I think are throwing them in there. And so I think that's going to be a really popular one. It also keeps you short of some of the runouts at 330, 340 with the long hitters can hit it there.

So the mini driver be big and then like lob wedges. I mean, I think, you know, lob wedges are huge here because you want to get the ball up in the air around the greens because there's so much runoff. And I think the idea of throwing it up high with a lot of spin is what most of these modern players do. Okay. Interesting. What do you, what do you think the winning score is this week? So I was looking, it's 11, 12, 10, 10 the last four years. So I think I'll go I think with the rain, it'll be a little better than that. I'll probably go 13, I think is the number I'm looking at. Okay. I love that. Yeah, it's pretty it's relatively consistent. By the

way, big cat, I had something for you. Oh, your big Florida win last night. Yeah. Congrats, by the way. I mean, I mean, I know you needed the money. Uh, so you would have finished, I need to finish a T 20 last year at the masters to make that much money. So you're kind of like a top 20 golfer in the world financially now. Yeah. Unfortunately for that calculus, uh, if we're, if we're putting in the whole March madness experience, I missed the cut, but yes, if we're just based on the houses Exactly, we're babe. We're only basing off the championship game then yeah t20 feels good. I mean under the bright lights That's when it matters the most one day. Yeah, Sunday red

I turned the feet on with like we were like at our rental house. I turned the feet on with about 30 seconds Let's go. I knew you had that bet and I could only see your eyes The hoodie kept getting smaller around your head. I actually didn't see the final play in its like totality for like an hour after because I was only watching the top of the screen. So when I saw the ball like go up and like him jump, I was like, Oh, he's about to hit this shot. Not realizing that he had traveled. So yeah, it was, yeah. All right. T 20. I could, I can, I can rock with that. Teach one. He feels good. That's on the great play last year at the match. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's very impressive. Nice purse. Uh, I was curious about max or other good friend max. Yup. Um, so he is a

guy that has played well at Augusta. You said that's very important, but he's also a guy that's not playing well right now, which you also say is important. So how, what would be a reasonable expectation for Max Holmwett this year's Masters? I think top 25 is reasonable for him. I think again, you know, the thing Max, I'm sure he told you guys this as well, but the thing he's been talking about is away from tournament golf. He's been playing well. Did he tell you what he shot on the first nine? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was on fire. 29? Yeah, something like that. I think he said seven under. Yeah. Yeah. Had a putt for 28. I think on the ninth,

which is would be like the low nine holes ever at the Masters if he did that within the tournament. I mean, he's seen positives away from tournament golf. It's just not really working. Once he gets going, you know, for Max, it's about starts, man. I mean, he's got to get off to a good start. He's got to be able to shoot something around even or under par on the first nine on Thursday. I mean, I just think he's continued, and he knows this,

he's continued to put himself behind the eight ball early, and then he's got to make up ground, which he's been able to do. So if he can just somehow find something solid on Thursday to get things going, shoot even par for the day, I mean, even shoot one over. I think there's an opportunity for him to run, but I think top 25 is reasonable. You know, he played really well

the first two days a year ago, and then it obviously got tougher on the weekend, but I think he's gonna make the cut, and I think top 25, top 20 makes sense. Yeah, we love that. Do you think that America is gonna continue its dominance? Because what It's seven seven majors in a row that we've won. I think it stops here. I think it ends here. I think Rory or Rom or Sep or somebody like that does it. So I that's kind of where I'm at is I think I think the I think the internationals are going to win this. I think probably a European is going to win it. And, um, there's the Europeans. I mean, the rider cup is what seven months. The Europeans are just like crushing it right now in golf. So, um, I think the theme continues. Yeah, but they're not ready for, for, uh, long Island. Yeah. They're not ready for

Island. Yeah. For, for a bunch of dudes yelling at them. It, it, it, it, it, it, we're up, we're up a couple of points just go into that simply because of the crowds. But I mean, there are, they're trending. When you look at the bottom half of what the team might look like right now, their bottom half, if you will, the victors and guys like that finding form finally like we've wanted them to, it's going to be very interesting to see if they continue this run because if they're 6-12,

to me feels like what the old USA was, 6-12 against the internationals on the President's Cup Like it was never the top half that we were dominant on. It was always the bottom half of that roster. And right now kind of one through 12 on the Europeans seems very, very spicy for that crew. So even if you're a guy that, that maybe is sick of Scotty winning all the time, you should be rooting for Scotty just for that reason. Because he's a, he's maybe our best chance. Like we didn't talk about more Kala. Yeah, I mean, more cow is I mean, his stats like Kyle Porter sent something out the other day, leads the world in stroce

gained approach leads the world in stroce gained ball striking leads the world in stroce gained T degree, T degree and leads the world in stroce gained overall all in 2025. I mean, this is a ball strikers golf course. So Colin more Kala played well here a year ago. I think Scotty, Colin, in terms of Americans are very, very high on the list. Can you educate us on what strokes gain means? I know that it's important and I know that it's good,

but I don't know how they do it. Yeah, it's an analytical deep dive into how players go against the rest of the field or the rest of the players in golf. So it's basically like what your stats, how your stats kind of match up against everybody else versus something like greens and regulation. That's you versus the golf course. PFT. I know you love the golf course. This is a little bit more like you against your peers. Got it. So it's like war.

Yeah. So it's above the place. Yeah. Shokes. All right, Shane, I got one last question again. Tune in this week. Shane will be on a feeds all week and weekend on the masters.com. All right. So rollback question, R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take a two final questions for me. One, what is your a favorite bet that isn't a winning bet? So it could be like top 20 could be make or miss the cut something like that. Yeah. I like I like Phil top 20. I like Sergio top 20. Okay. Both of those bets. I think you're getting around even for both of those. I may be even a little bit of plus money. So I like both of those for sure. Okay.

I like that. And then this is just something dumb that I always think about. Like the fact that you do in these in these tournaments. if you play morning on Thursday, then you play afternoon on Friday afternoon on Thursday morning on Friday. That always never made sense to me because it's like you basically have to turn around so fast if you're in the afternoon and they go to the morning. What do guys prefer if weather is not a factor? What do they prefer? I think I think younger guys like like late early. I think they like the quick flip. Um, and I also think if you're playing well, you want to get back out there quickly. And I think the older players prefer early late. So they get a little bit more of a break and

they can sleep in and like, you know, tiger famously was doing all the bodywork, um, you know, in the mornings on Fridays. So I think it depends on age, but I think, I think if you pull players, you'd probably get 70, 80% would be kind of like go out late on Thursday, get right back out on the golf course on Friday morning. Yeah. Although it would drive me nuts now that I'm thinking about it, uh, playing early on Friday, not knowing what I need to score. Like I, I, I feel like playing late on Friday where you're like, here, this is what I have to do to make the cut is maybe a little bit of advantage. Yeah. And I think like this year, especially with the forecast on Friday, I think getting

out there early on Friday would be preferred simply because if there are delays and stuff like that, now if you're a Friday late, your second round might bleed into Saturday and then you got to play a marathon day on Saturday in terms of golf if you make the cut. So I think for this year, especially with what we might see on Friday, I don't think it's a huge percentage, maybe like 30, 40%, but if there are going to be rain showers, at least if you're an early Friday guy, you can get your round in. Yeah.

I was reading the other day that if you win the masters, you get, you get to use the champions driving range that not everybody else gets to use. Have you heard about this champions driving range? I don't know about the champions driving range. No, I mean they all do. They all hit balls at the tournament practice area. The kind of new one over the last few years where they like the it's the best range on the planet by the way. I mean they literally replicate greens that are on the golf course so that you

can hit certain shots in the greens and get an idea of what it's going to look like out on the golf course, but now I don't know about that one. I'll have to ask some of the some of the dudes back here that have played. Yeah. Cause the thing I was reading, I just sent them on like a, is there a basement in the Alma? I might have just walk it around. Everyone's like, this guy doesn't know what the fuck is like a big, it's a big joke that they're playing. I did, I did read though that there's a champions driving range, but the champions driving range isn't nearly as

good as the regular driving range. So it's like, why would you, why would you want to use it just to be like, fuck you. I feel like an honorary starter. You go there because you don't hit it as far as you used to. Maybe that's like where you warm up. Yeah, that's true. That's actually a good point. That's probably why it's not as long. Those guys go. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, Shane, thank you so much. Good luck this week in the lottery. We're rooting for you. We'd love to see you be able to play the course and it's always fun having you on. So appreciate it so much. Thank you guys. Good luck with the bet tank. Shane Bacon was brought to you by Mountain Dew where you can grab a blast of refreshing

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been some great baseball injuries this year. Being out because he ate chicken wings. Man card. Tough. Play the Joe Buck drop. Tough. Gotta, gotta make it. Can't say it's the wings. Guy like me, I only eat wings. Never missed a podcast. Nope. Not a jinx. Okay, Hank. Wow, this is sad. I figured you guys would appreciate this. All four major sports leagues have apparently

stopped making championship DVDs slash Blu-rays. Like you guys always say, this is the start of the championship DVD when my team has a big moment. The championship DVD is quintessential merch to buy when your team wins Hate to see it looks like they're a thing of the past Signed sad equals what do they do now this sucks? It's like championship YouTube link

Championship Instagram reel that's crazy. You gotta still make the DVD. We're still gonna say championship DVD started the DVD, right? Yeah, absolutely. We're not change. It's like either it makes us a boomer But you either die millennial or you live long enough to be a boomer We'll just accept it. I Don't give fuck people call it boomer all time who cares. You know who else they call boomer Chris Berman what? Hey, it's a boomer take it what do you don't give a fuck? Yes. Yeah, who gets is that no sir to not care What was it the other day? Oh So all nice kid. Yeah, my duke hate was a boomer take.

No, that's just a kid that likes Duke. Yeah, that's also a kid that just doesn't understand how sports work. Yeah. Yeah. That that was I think that's my problem is that people use boomer take for things that are not even close to I know when I have a boomer take. So saying championship DVDs are boomer. They do that with cringe too. Yeah, it's just a word that they'll say that they think is gonna Hurt you right. Guess what? Like I don't give a fuck. It's lost all meaning because it gets thrown around to you overused it You're right your hand. We took that word back. Yeah Now that the Super Bowl and Final Four have wrapped up I'm curious to get your take on the best city for a finale to a sports season and

Maybe as a second layer of the best game Super Bowl Final Four to be there for. Wait what do you mean? Where it takes place? Yeah best city. Best city for a finale to a sports season. I mean Vegas. Vegas. I can personally attest. I like New Orleans. Stanley Cup in Vegas. Yeah. When your team wins. Final Four in New Orleans would be better than Vegas. New Orleans is pretty sick. We did do the Final Four four New Orleans a couple years ago It was a great time Super Bowl was in New Orleans this year remember what happened in that final four big cat Yeah in Vegas are in is dead. Yeah boomer take Yeah, listen, New Orleans is always gonna be the top of my list Vegas was a lot of fun. I like Indy too

Yeah, I'm trying to. I like Indy too. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Indy is a good city just because you don't have to get in a car. You don't have to get in an Uber. Your city. What? Baseball, basketball, hockey. Oh, but he's saying that... No, he's saying... No, he's saying like the venue city. Yeah, the venue city when it's a Final Four or a Super Bowl., it's like the venue city. Yeah the venue city when it's okay final four Super Bowl so it's a different city memes is also back You're saying like you can pick any city you don't say like Nashville would be a good Super Bowl city if it wasn't so Oh, well, you're trying to go on a bachelorette party. Try Super Bowl, buddy There's a bunch of places memes wants to go back to God's country so you like I could say

There's a bunch of places memes wants to go back to God's country. So you like I could say London yeah, the Bahamas. Yeah, Bahamas would be great Hawaii, Honolulu, Amsterdam would be sick But imagine losing in Honolulu. Yeah, it's a long flight. But if you lose a hunt you're like, okay, who cares? Yeah, I'm in Hawaii. I think New York would be a good place just because it's basically anywhere you bad say why it's Stadium New York would be a good place just because it's basically anywhere you bat say why it's a new stadium. So I understand. I understand. So crowded. I'm not talking about being on the team. Oh yeah. You're talking. I was looking at as a fan. Oh yeah. But I on the team I'm saying like New York would be if you if you win someplace where the bars don't close that's sick that yeah, that's that that changes things Yeah that for sure. I was thinking on the team I guess it doesn't make as much sense for Final Four browsing Super Bowl

Like if you win the Super Bowl in Vegas like you go out as a team in Vegas, that's sick. Yeah Cuz like as a fan you're gonna just go to whatever bar, you know, it doesn't, I get, I don't think Vegas obviously different, but as a player Miami, Miami would be sick. Miami would be so sick. Also as a fan, I feel like Miami would be fun. That's a double. All right. Last one. The PGA championship needs to go back to being the last major. This recent change throws off the whole summer. It's the perfect epilogue in that it's not as charming, but gives you a bit more content plus the British Open Maybe the best major has no business being closer. Whoa, since the shitty weather Oh very summer this guy just did the you've given yourself away three fingers

Yes, major called it the British Open. It's the open champion and it's not even close to the best Yeah, if you really thought like that was the best open guy You're as the best no Second best you think it's better than the US open No, sometimes I did depends various maybe if you live in England, but for time zone reasons sucks. Yeah, it's bad Yeah masters US open open championship PJ, but that's why I like that. They moved the PJ up because otherwise it's like who cares Why is the Masters always first? Because they they're the Masters. They get everything. They get to do whatever they want. Get everything. Yeah. This guy's wrong. Open championship. Well, no, but his point was that they should just flip flop. His point

was well, his point is to your point. He doesn't think the open championship should be the last one because it's not as good. I thought said is the best I said maybe the best but he said It shouldn't be the last major of the year. Okay. I that's fine. I don't hate that Yeah, but the fact that he didn't refer to it in the correct nomenclature tells me he's not really that big of fan I almost I just got hung up on the fact that he said maybe the best it's never maybe been the best No PGA championship is definitely the worst. I think yes that that's and masters is definitely the best no PJ championship is definitely the worst I think yes that that's and Masters is definitely the best and if you're an American like I thought we all were the US Open is the second best and the Open Championship is

the third but it's sounding to me like you're different style which side are you rooting for when they play in Long Island America, okay. Are you really are you cuz like listen the live guys exactly Europe exactly I could see Hank Brooks being your eyes in Just saying there's actually like it's just John Rahm. I guess Hatten you love John Rahm. I like John Rahm. Yeah Yeah, you love Ludwig. You love sir. I love Ludwig. Yeah, I like Sergio. Yeah, you love Sergio. You love John Rom. I like John Rom. Yeah. Yeah, you love Ludwig. You love Sergio I love Ludwig. Yeah, I like Sergio. Yeah, you love Sergio. You love Rory. No, I know you hate All right real quick white lotus Hank

You watch just this so spoilers coming. I I really don't think there's anyone out there who's like I'm saving the finale for Friday. So Hank, PFC and I watched the whole season. Yep. Hey, Max, did you watch the whole season? I did. Okay. So Max watched the whole season. You just watched the finale. Yep. I'll preface it. I watched the months ago, maybe even last year, I watched the first maybe one or two episodes of season one, decided it wasn't a show for me Removed it from you know my future, so I've seen like I have everything on Twitter. I see people talking about it I don't ignore it. I don't like avoid it because I don't care right so I've picked I've like been weirdly kind of falling

I'm like I've seen the memes I I see people you know that we work with and stuff tweet about it and sometimes I'll read them. I don't know what's going on. So I did have some level of understanding going into it, but I just watched the finale. I tried to watch the finale. I wrote some notes down until I fell asleep. It was an hour and a half. I was battling and I'm like... So you didn't see it. So I got probably 60, 75 minutes in and I just I fell So I think this might be the future of we caps we gotta be close

I remember being like this gotta be close to me going on so long There's so many fucking storyline towers any of this connected and then it was like 40 minutes left Okay, and I tried to stay awake I did so this Hank's thoughts about the finale of white lotus from a guy that didn't watch the season of white lotus and Fell asleep halfway through Yeah, I'll give I have like four notes. I'm gonna go into it. Uh Bad for Thailand that guy seemed like a badass. Whoever was bad for Thailand Why are they in Thailand was a question? Wait, who is bad for Thailand the guy in the very beginning episode?

He's like you're bad for Thailand That Walt Goggins was talking to Oh Sam Rockwell. Are you good for time? Yeah. Yeah, he was an awesome Sam Rockwell should have his own show. Yeah that character. Yes. Yeah He was one of the only characters I liked he fucks Yeah, well he didn't for a while and also he gets fucked by y'all so seems didn't seem didn't seem interested Yeah, you know you missed the whole part where he he got fucked by dudes Yeah, he's that he didn't get off by fucking chicks anymore And so he went in this like maybe episode 5 He's like then I found out that the only way I could get off is to be a Thai woman and get fucked

Yeah, cuz the chicks he was fucking he wanted to be them getting fucked by an American Yeah, that explains why he wasn't when they reunited. He was like, I don't care. She was like, oh, I missed you And he's like, he just goes. Yep. Yeah I don't care. She was like, Oh, I missed you. And he's like, he just goes, Yep. Yeah. Duke very featured. That's not an accident. Like I can under I actually could understand why Duke was mad. Because it was so prominently featured and like in Hollywood, that's a you know, nothing comes on screen by

accident, like, they have to, you know, set design, outfit design, like the fact that they made Duke that prominent. This producer ain't talking like this. Was kind of wild. Like, what, was there a significant reason or was it just like a throwaway like he went to Duke? I think it's-

Because, like, having him wear Duke stuff on a major HBO show is kind of crazy. I think there was a, it was clearly anti-Duke propaganda. That's crazy. Which is, which I'm fully in support of. The moral of the entire show was basically like like don't let your children go to Duke Yeah, go to UNC and they even I mean the character named Zion got paid millions of dollars to not do anything Mm-hmm. It seemed pretty slanted towards Duke I wrote these are the guys that banged their brothers gross. Yeah. Yeah, did they actually bang or did you just

Jacked him off and when so that I saw people like, incest, incest, incest. That... is that. What's this take? What's this take? Well, no, I was like, be careful! They came on screen and I was like, oh, this is crazy. These guys banged and he said the jerking off thing. And I was like, people were freaking out on Twitter. I know it's bad, but people, I thought I was expecting like Game of Thrones incest.

He just jacked his brother off.'s the pink doesn't understand the big deal? No, this is like modern-day like on vacation. Yeah, that's fair You know your brother Wow, you're no no no no no I was based off what I saw on Twitter I was expecting incest and I know that that is in that is in that it's like my definition my bad I apologize. I was expecting like Game of Thrones So like I was like this is discussing I can see why people were mad when the character lock when he said to his brother when they had that confrontation the final episode he was like I only jacked you off during that threesome because I guess I'm just a people pleaser and one bit that that is weaponized therapy yeah I also do that was it is that one of the sisters the

guy that Patrick Schwarzenegger was jealous that loved Goggins. No, no that's there. They were friends. Okay. Um, if you jerk off your brother like that, the conversation the next morning has to be one of us has to kill ourselves. Yeah. Like you can't both be alive after that. It just can't. You cannot live like that. Good segue. Yeah. That's where I fell asleep. The dad was I mean suicide. That was a little bit you know how convenient you have a suicide payer in your backyard which the guy that was overrated. Well I fell asleep when he was like grinding it up. Did not know he he almost killed his whole family.

So this is this goes to my biggest. That's it. That's all I got. Yeah. So great show. I like White Lotus, White Lotus fan coming in peace. I did not think this was the strongest season. No, I'd put it clearly number three. I think number three, I think season. I'm going to go season two. Yeah. Then season one barely. And then clearly season three. Yeah. I think one and two are interchangeable of which one's your favorite and then three like so this happens with ever Whatever a TV show that's widely popular If you don't like a certain season you're dubbed like a contrarian or you're trying to hate just to hate I like white lotus. I'm gonna watch season four. I thought this season was not great and The rat lift story was was one of my biggest issues because what you saw Hank was what happened all season where so he did the

The pina coladas with his family He ended up hitting him all out of his hand their hands and being like don't drink it the milk's gone bad That was like the sixth time we had a dream sequence slash Something happened where they tried to fake us out that he was committing suicide or killing his family enough of it Yeah, I actually think Locke should have died at the end. Yeah agree instead I think the fake out death is the war. Yeah instead what happened was he survived because I guess he didn't eat enough of the suicide Parrot that's right said those suicide pairs overrated or I thought maybe it was like a DMT pair because he was like I just saw a god down and then they get on a boat and the dad's like

Hey, sorry I tried to kill all you guys like did they not have that conversation because Locke obviously drank the milkshake Yeah, and then he basically died was his dad ever like oh, yeah About that. This is why you passed out also the entire storyline of the rat lifts and the dad Which was interesting, financial crimes, having to deal with that, no one has phones, and then all we get is one 10 second speech at the end where he's like, we'll stay together as a family.

Yeah, hey, sorry I tried to kill all y'all, but I gotta be honest, we're all gonna go broke. Yeah. You're like, love you, dad. I did like, from the Ratlifts, I thought Saxon was awesome, his story arc was cool. Yeah. The look back at the end with Goggins and his girlfriend like he kind of finally got it and I Parker Posey's just a hilarious actress it is it is fun to talk like Parker Posey yeah she and Parker Posey end up winning because she

knew all along that her her daughter was a spoiled rich kid and she just had to go sleep in a monastery one night to realize and it's all it's just fun to talk like her And be like get me out of Taiwan. Where's my lorazzo? Yeah, but when she saw her daughter come back and then she got she was proud of her daughter for being spoiled Yeah, that was the funniest. Yeah, it was great I mean the whole theme of this show is that rich people idle rich people are are the worst and also Good bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people Rich people, idle rich people are, are the worst and also good, bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people.

Yeah. And when, um, what, what was her name? Belinda? Yeah. When Belinda got paid all that money and then she became the character from the previous season. I liked that. That was good. That made me a little bit sad for the guy that she was like, I'm not going to do it. Yeah. I'm not going to go into business with the corn. Chai. See you later. Pornchai not gonna go into business with the corn chai See you later porn chai porn chai That was a very good scene and then I wrote down that The white lotus the property the white lotus Yeah

They have to have the best trip advisor account manager ever Because all these murders keep happening at their resorts and they seem seem to be doing really well. Yeah, with tourists just deleting them all. Yeah, we're gonna get rid of all the negative feedback, even though people die all the time. And you know what it is? Here's why I bet their their accounts are doing well. The donut tree. Did you notice the donut tree that Walter Goggins? Yeah, how have I never heard of a donut tree? I've seen those that like, they're there. You know what they sometimes have them in like sweets at like football games I feel like Ross Tucker has tweeted out a donut tree. I've never seen a donut tree Yeah, but now we have to can we get a donut tree? Absolutely Ross Tucker's definitely tweeted out a donut tree

Yeah, I just I don't know. I thought the season just it kind of they did stretch it It was more it was eight episodes I think season one was six and season two was seven It felt like it was eight where it was like an hour and a half and we went circular on a lot of storylines And then I just I don't know. I was rooting for Walter Goggins and his girlfriend. I thought the cheap Star Wars I he was your father was just whatever Walter Goggins was the British girls dad. No. Oh It was a Thailand yeah uncle Rico yeah that's the same guy the beginning of the episode no no uncle Rico is Greg Gary oh yeah you're right yeah no it was a person

they were dating I know well this show is where Walter Walter Goggins was basically like I had I came to Thailand to get vindication because this guy who's this rich guy who owns a resort with his wife? Killed my dad and then he went and confronted him at his house thought he was gonna shoot him pushed him over But had peace with it was like I finally told him off Then the guy shows up to the resort and it confronts Walter Goggins like you're a pussy your mom was a slut And then Walter Goggins in like the last 10 minutes kills the guy. And then the other woman's like, why would you do that? He's your father. It's like, come on. Goggins his father? Yeah. Oh, wow. So he ended up killing his dad as he was on a mission

to kill the guy who killed his dad. Right. That felt a little ham fisted. Just a little cheap. And then I think that this is going to be an unpopular opinion though. I think Chelsea, the British girl that was dating Walter Goggins, if she didn't have funny teeth, she would suck. Yeah. I liked her character. Yeah. But I don't, I think she was very likable because she was like kind of adorable, but she's British, but she was British and all she did was just try to like fix a guy that clearly wasn't fixable. Yeah, I Don't know what he was fixed for a minute And then I actually enjoyed

Carrie crewans I thought was the star of the show in my opinion because I thought she was the the the girlfriend ship storyline I that was real like it that was some good acting. Mm-hmm Like the but it also just ended I don't know The whole ending was just it felt so abrupt and then they all just witnessed a mass murder And then they all just got on the boat and left. Yeah, they were cool and Fabian falling in the water was very funny Yes, that guy he was maybe my favorite and I didn't like the fucking security guard with his girlfriend yeah, that was I

That was a pussy. He was going for revenge to write no he no he was just a pussy he just knew that he had to get a shot off unlike Kelvin Sampson at the end he's like I gotta make this chick like me yeah I watched I enjoyed parts I didn't love the whole thing what if what if it was like one of those Disney cinematic universe tie-through stories where Gary was uncle Rico yeah like uncle Rico retires to Yeah. That's what I like to him. That was my whole thing when I said it last week. Like Gary just, he going, just keep going back to white Lotus where like, why would you keep doing that dude? Go to a four seasons.

I have a question for you. Yeah. Do you think that you would have disliked it as much if it wasn't coming right off of severance. Cause I think that hurt this season. No, I was watching them both at the same time. But Severance is just so much better. I agree with that. That it made me like White Lotus less. No, but I like White Lotus season two and season one a lot. But you weren't watching at the same time as Severance.

I was. Cause I watched, I caught up on Severance late. I was watching them both concurrently and I absolutely think that's a fair point I because I was finding myself the same way because I would get so excited for severance each week And then when white lotus came along I was like, ah, this just isn't the same white lotus and I maybe I missed the whole thing But like this idea that it's like a very deep show I think this is also just what we do now on the internet is where we analyze every little thing on a show. It happens with Severance too where it's like I don't think they're putting in that many clues to every little thing

and it's a show where it's fun because you get to watch rich assholes go on vacation and there's some good parts or some funny parts. It's not like super deep. Severance made me think a lot more. Yes So I did find myself like when severance when I watched severance I was very focused when I watched the white lotus I was watching it But I was like this is just kind of you know, they're on vacation But I think this season white lotus it took a lot longer to get into any eight episode real shit Yeah, so that's why they made the last one an hour

and a half is because Mike White was like, Oh shit, I got to have some stuff happen. I got to wrap it up. But it was, listen, I still think it was good. Yeah. I enjoyed watching it and I'm going to continue to watch it like big cat. Like it's a good, good show. It's not. It's my test for every movie or show I watch. If I think about it the morning after when I'm waking up, that means that it like stuck with me and it's really like good. I thought about Severance for a couple days after White Lotus. I watched finale and I was like, all right, I guess that's that. Didn't really think about it the next day.

Piper no. Piper? Piper? We're on vacation guys. Didn't you think the fake outs of the suicide and everything was just like, like the fifth one was like, all right guys. Yeah. And they got like bloodier and more gruesome.

Yeah, it's just like, come on. And then the milkshakes where it's like, oh, we're finally going to do this. This guy's going to kill his whole family. Oh, no, milk's gone bad. Yeah. There's also, there's a podcast, an accompanying podcast that goes along with White Lotus, which I haven't

listened to. But does every new show now have a podcast? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Have to. Because I feel like doing a podcast about a show that you watch is the new reading a book. I mean, technically. Every old show has a podcast. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Have to. Because I feel like doing a podcast about a show that you watch is the new reading a book. I mean, every old show has a podcast. Yes. And technically we do that. This show with PMTV. What happened on last week's PMTV?

Last week's PMTV, Max got invited to the White House. Oh, let's break that down. So Jerry O'Connell reached out to us. Big Cat and I didn't see it coming. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What would you give the season? I'd like a B three balls. Yeah, it was fine. Three and a half balls. You give it four heck. Yeah, I enjoyed the other two seasons more. Yeah, I could understand it. I did I did like the the the daughter of the rat lifts. I can't remember Nate. What was her name? Piper Piper. Yeah. She is just she was so perfect of like, I think I'm different than the rich narcissist that populate my family. Only to realize no,

I'm not I'm no different. And also have her brother be like, I want to do this with you. She's like, Oh, now I'm really not different. Yeah, I can't do this one thing I do like about what Mike White does though is he either kills or morally bankrupts every likable character on the show Yeah, like he fucks with a viewer. Yeah in a fun way that I like. Yeah, it really is like good Bad things happen to good people good things happen to bad people and rich people who are on vacation are Some of the worst people out there. Mm-hmm. Yeah Any other thoughts max you like it? What would you give it? Seven

This is perfect. It was six. That's a good beat. Yeah, that's a big fine I also read that Woody Harrelson turned down a rule He was probably I would imagine he was gonna be Sam Rockwell's character Harrison turned down a role. He was probably I would imagine he was going to be Sam Rockwell's character But he turned down a role because he wanted to go on vacation with his family But when these guys go on to shoot this show they spend like six months on vacation Yeah, no Mike White has figured out the Adam Sandler. Yeah, it's the best I know the best locations to film your shows bring your friends That's what Adam Sandler did for like 20 years bring all your best friends to a resort and then film a movie there

I wonder where next year will be key West maybe that'd be cool Yes, someone said I want to see this in like veil Pug said there's no ocean in the next one There's no how do we know that they did like a inside the episode with Mike White are they doing Lake Geneva, Wisconsin? He just said he's done with the waves crashing theme. So no, no ocean. Put in Bay. Yeah. Okay.

Inland. Jersey Shore. Oh my God. White Lotus Jersey Shore, I'm in. A snow trip, a snow one would actually be awesome. A veil, yeah. That one would be awesome. Or like the, what's the Montana one?

Big Sky. No, Stafford. Yellowstone or something? No, you're a Jackson Hawaii wasn't the one that Stafford and Tom Brady met. Yeah the club the club. What's it called? I don't know. I think it's Yellowstone Club. Yeah sure make it the White Lotus Club. That would be sick It's just Jordan Schultz and Ian Rapport fighting. Maybe we're still looking help write it. Yeah All right good show boys Masters Hank I don't want you watching any of that 12 to 2 block on peacock why because you didn't want it I

did want it I was bringing to light the fact that it existed ah memes you'll never get this thanks you'll never get this you'll never get a 50 50. Oh, I bet you I will first. I think I'm just gonna have to start doing 50 50s now. One other thing about the White Lotus. Does anybody else have a problem where they get they watch like eight episodes of a show that they really enjoy and they get to the end and they realize that you don't know any of the characters names? Yeah, like on top of your head. I was having problems with that. Yeah. Also, the song from the first season intro song was,

I was expecting that for this one. Yeah. They took out the song. They took out the lululuz. The guy that wrote the song quit because Mike White wouldn't use the lululuz in it. That song was great. Yeah.

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