Pardon My Take - Michael Irvin In Studio, NFL Trade Deadline, Nets Clown Show, 1 Question With Chase Daniel And Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

A crazy day in sports and we start with the Phillies going up 2-1 (00:01:50-00:10:13). NFL Trade deadline was insane with teams going all in and the Bears making trades for the future (00:10:13-00:30:28). Monday Night Football recap and College Football (00:30:28-00:47:52). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:47:52-01:07:00). Michael Irvin in studio to talk NFL, the White House and tons more (01:07:00-01:51:38). 1 Question with a Quarterback with Chase Daniel (01:51:38-02:06:23) and we finish with guys on chicks (02:06:23-02:21:21).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a great interview with Michael Irvin, playmaker in studio. Talk about getting pumped up. He is the man who gets you pumped up. Michael Irvin, great interview. We also have one question with a quarterback, Chase Daniel, also great. We're going to recap NFL trade deadline, World Series Game 3. Talk a little Monday night football cleanup, hot seat cool thrown and guys on chicks. A pack show for you and it's brought to you by our friends at GameTime. GameTime is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports, concerts and

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Today is Wednesday, November 2nd and the fightings are looking fucking good. I love that Max is a producer. To be fair, Max doesn't have that much experience working with audio levels and recording. He just screams said in the microphone so loud people probably crash their cars, but that's how Philly is feeling right now. Just dong after dong after dong against the Astros up seven nothing right now as we're watching. And this actually makes me not want to say the thing I'm about to say, but I'm going to say it anyway. Max, the Philly's are now up to one, right? That is correct. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that you could talk in a normal voice there. All right. So they're up to one. Game four is Wednesday night. If the Philly's

win game four, would that mean they could clinch in Philadelphia on Thursday night? That is correct. Okay. So if we get to that point, if the Philly's are up three one going into Thursday night, Max and Jake are going to the game with GameTime to document it for part of my take. That would be the best day of my life. He's gonna be the best. I have tickets to the AppState game. Sorry guys. You seem you were like so nervous coming into tonight's game. I was. You were shook, but now it's like you're I think you truly believe that you're going to sweep the rest of the game. Yeah. Why not? They're undefeated. You know how it gets. In a seven game series, it's ups and downs. You get very confident. You get very low. It's day by day. I will change my

opinion pitch by pitch of whether we're going to win. You might play off baseball. There might be a pitcher pitching in the next game whose off speed pitches you don't see coming a mile away. That might be the thing because McCullers was tipping all his pitches tonight and you saw it from the start like Bryce when he went yard. He told everybody in the Phillies dug out. He's like this guy's tipping his pitches. A bunch of stuff went viral online where you could see like the high leg kick. You could see the back leg being straight and the Phillies hit all their home runs off sinkers, curves, change ups, things like that. It's very smart. I'm not saying that's cheating at all. It's very smart baseball. Dusty Baker on the other hand, what the hell are you

doing after maybe after like the fourth home run? Well, as soon as it goes when it's trending on Twitter, someone in the in the advanced scouting department, I don't think anyone in the Astros clubhouse is using electronics monitors. Computers sitting in the hallway right there ready for you. Yeah. But yes, Max, you will be going to the game via game time. Well, we got to win that. We got to win that. Yeah, you got to. Yeah. No, but we just want to let you know because on Thursday, PFT, Hank and I are going to the, we're doing some up fronts in Chicago, so we won't be in studio. So you will, you will be going with Jake documenting all of it. And if the Phillies could somehow win the World Series on Thursday night, we're going to have a drunk Max and Jake from

the streets of Philadelphia live on the show. Yeah. We just need Jake to go to make sure like Max stays in one piece. Yeah. Just so he can translate what Max is saying. And listen, Max, we're rooting for you because like to have, it would be really incredible if you joined the podcast three months ago and we just added another World Series to the, to this show that isn't the New York Yankees. Yeah. I would appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. It would be great. A dynasty. It's kind of part of my take becomes a dynasty at that point. Yeah, we would. We would have what, four and six? That's a dynasty. That's pretty good. That is four and seven. People say I'm a Philly hater, but I saw when you see the crowd reaction, their reaction to those dogs was like Max has got to be in there.

It's like it's going to be electric. They're different. It's like a different species of people compared to what you see in Houston. Like Houston fans, yeah, they like, they clap. They look like they're having a good time. They wear silly little space helmets and look like astronauts. But like in Philly, like they, they live for this shit. Every guy in Philly just looks like he's about to get in a fight, but then you could just like flash a course light in front of his face. He's like, ooh, shiny object. Even the old dudes, the old dudes in Philly could kick my ass. Yeah. No, there was that one clip where the guy caught the foul ball and then him and his buddy were just yugging beers and it looked like they had just won the world series. Yeah. It looked

like what Max was saying after game one when he was like, it's better than a Super Bowl. It is. I mean, there's something about a baseball big play that like there's so much built up nerves going into each pitch that it just, you just explode when something, something happened. Yeah. And playoff baseball is also, it's, you know, football is king. We love football, but something about playoff baseball and it goes the same kind of for NBA and NHL, but because the playoffs take so many weeks, it just becomes part of your life. You know what I mean? Like every night it's your life and it becomes so like intimate to you, the whole team. So yeah, it's fun. It's awesome to watch. I don't think there's anything cooler looking in sports

than a dong, a massive tater that gets whacked in the middle of the night. Yeah. And the ball, like leaving the yard against the black night sky. That's October. Schwerber's going just dead center and he just goes to his knee and he just threw his bat. Like, come on. Of course, I fucking. There's something about a Schwerber. They're on, they're on like anything else. Yeah. Because Schwerber's played for all of our teams. That's the other thing we've all experienced. Yeah. Yeah. The lefty swing and not the Yankees. They need a guy like Schwerber, the compact swing and he just murders baseballs. Also, shout out Joe Girardi for getting fired this year. Huh? Yeah. Does he get a ring? Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Has to. Wait, we should. Well,

well, you know, down a little bit, Max. Yeah. Max. Max, do you want to throw? Max, we got a little ahead of ourselves. Max, you were hours ago. I thought I was dead. You want to throw a pizza party for the team if they win this? No. Say no. No pizza party. No, no, no, zero. But yeah, Joe, Joe definitely he's in the parade, but we had he comes to the banner date next year. Yeah. Listen, we had to tell you tonight about the you going to game five potentially because we want, you know, this podcast is a family and the listeners are part of the family want them. If you don't have a rooting interest, if you're not an Astros fan or Philly's fan, now you have something to root for Jake Marsh going, taking back girl to Philly

and watching literally like taking me like on a leak. Yes. No, yeah. It'll be like taking like a like a 11 year old rescue dog that's never been outside to a dog park for the first time. Yeah. We need to put like a name tag on you with Jake's contact. It's like Jake. It's like Jake being a documentarian going to the wild. Oh, Jake's going to see shit. You thought two of fingers was bad. Oh, man, we should actually make Jake go as an astronaut. No, no, no, no, no. We should double go really and have him go as an Astros fan and just watch both just fucking unfold. Max, are you going to climb a light pole? No, don't answer it. Don't answer. He's trying to get you into it. Don't answer. I also don't think I'm capable. I'm athletically

capable. Yeah. Under the right circumstances, you can bench more than Billy. If Billy wins World Series, you the adrenaline will carry you right up that pole. Stop. Okay. All right. That's game three. That sets the stage. Like I said, you're going to come back with a thousand yards stare looking like a Vietnam veteran. If you're rooting, if you're rooting for content, root for the Phillies to win Wednesday night so that we can get them live reporting on the scene for that game. So NFL trade done. We had like the craziest day in sports. NFL trade deadline was insane. Bradley Chubb to the Dolphins, Jeff Wilson to the Dolphins, Calvin Ridley to the Jaguars, TJ Hawkinson to the Vikings. Bears get Chase Claypool. They traded Rokon Smith on Monday.

Chaos. Yeah. All the shit that never happens at the NFL trade deadline happened this year because there's never any movement. It's always like the biggest story that never ends up being a story. And then Schefter tweets out like, well, there were a lot of talks and a lot of deals that almost got done, but nothing did. But now we can officially say the Miami Dolphins have joined the ranks of the Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers and the Vikings and the Vikings to a certain extent getting TJ Hawkinson. They got him because Irv Smith is out. Right. But yeah, but yeah, I'm going to say that those those three teams especially are all in. Yes. Right now. All those are the most all in teams. I actually really like what McDaniel did. Yeah. I like I

like getting a court because basically you need somebody that will harass a quarterback if you want to win in the AFS. I actually was going to say Bradley Chubb is awesome and he's going to be great for them. They sent a first round pick, which I saw it and it was basically all the picks they got for the Trey Lance trade, which Trey Lance has been injured this year, not his fault, but he's been injured. They got, I think it was Jalen Waddle, Tyree Kill and Bradley Chubb like through different trades. Obviously more picks involved, but they flipped it for three really good players. And then I actually think Jeff Wilson is like the sneaky best move of the day because you have a running back who knows the Shanahan system who can now run Mike McDaniel system. Yeah. Like that was

that's one of those ones where it just it's under the radar because there are bigger names, including a bigger name going to the Dolphins. But I saw that and I was like, fuck, that was genius. No, that's a very smart move. I just like Chubb because you have to have a guy to get through the AFC that's capable of taking a, you know, top of the world quarterback and just making him have like an average day. Yeah. And the only way really that you can do that is by having somebody that'll hit them up a few times. So what do you, what do you think, Jake? Dolphins all in. How you feeling? I love it. I mean, I think I said this to you before we recorded, but I saw what the Rams did last year and teams are like, you have to go all in. Like picks are picks. Sure. You don't

know if picks will pan out, but it's proven that if you go all in, like it's worked. Yeah. Sometimes you can go all in and drown though. Yeah. That's been, that's been done before. Well, it's a very, it's a weird situation for a rookie head coach to be at this place already where he's like, okay, my nuts are on the table. We're going to win this year. I, I mean, I think it is, it speaks also to besides the chiefs and the bills who I've ever seen in the AFC and the Eagles, like there's just a bunch of teams at that same level. You know what I mean? That are at that two games above 500 or 500 and everyone's trying to jockey and it's like this, this could be, you know, you never know what happens to the playoffs. This could be winnable. We could, we could take a shot

here and I know the bills have looked like the clear favorites above everyone else, but fuck, get in the playoffs, roll the dice and the, yeah, the Ravens too. Brandon Cooks really wanted to get traded. He really wanted to get traded. He was liking tweets being like, yo, the Cowboys need a second receiver. Yeah. And nothing happened. The Cowboys didn't really do anything either, did they? No, they're, they're ready to roll. Yeah. So I, I'm, it was exciting. Like you don't get to see trade deadlines like this. The bills got a running back. Yeah. Who'd they get? Naheem Hines. Yep. That's right. So that's, yeah. And it also was, it should be said, the Broncos, like imagine being Russ Wilson, like they basically were like, fuck this, we're, we suck. Yeah. You

sucked. They're like Russell, not only, not only are we not going to make the playoffs, but also your contract is so bad for us that we have to start thinking about the future. Well, yeah, we have to, we have such regret on everything that took place that we need to get picks back as fast as possible. Yeah. And so they've started the process of getting picks back. It's so interesting in the NFL. Once you get players, if you draft a player that you're like, this guy might be a stud, you already have to start planning about, okay, when am I going to trade this guy away for more picks? Yeah. Or pay him a ton of money. And then if you draft enough studs, then you're like, well, I'm going to have to trade one of the, that's what the Broncos are doing right now, because they

have some good young players and they're doing the mental math where they're like, I need to get rid of one of these guys, because we're going to have a log jam at, we have two wide receivers that we're going to have to end up paying in a little bit. We've got a quarterback that's taking all of our money. And then we've got, yeah, we've got a quarterback and we've got a great linebacker that's going to have to go eventually. So one of these guys has to not be here anymore. And then I do, obviously the Bears are the team that made a bunch of moves, but are not all in. And I loved everything they did because Roquan Smith was not going to re-sign with the Bears. It fell apart last summer. The Bears would have been stupid to

franchise tag an off-ball linebacker. Like you don't, you have to be able to rush the quarterback if you're going to get Premier like top dollar. And they're like, Hey, as good as Roquan is, and I love watching him play, he's not going to be here. So let's get something for him. They trade him for a two and a five. And then today they go and get Chase Claypool. And I know people say they overpaid a little bit because it was the Bears second round, not the Raven second round pick. But it's, it's, it's the argument that everyone made in the off season that the Bears were ruining Justin Fields by not getting them anyone. You can't then complain that they went and got someone who is controlled for another year, very, very cheap,

big, tall, fast, everything. Like you need that for Justin Fields. And I got my guy. I'm feeling confident about having my guy. I have, I have a guy. He is the guy. Counterpoint. You got Fleece. Officially. Yeah. No, he's officially the guy. Fleeced. Fleeced. Build around Justin Fields. Everything else doesn't matter. That's, it's just so fun to tell people they got Fleeced. Fleeced. Fleeced. It's awesome. Like more than anything, I love the people that just replied to an Adam Schefter tweet about a trade, just fleeced immediately. And they don't clarify who got Fleeced, but somebody got Fleeced. They don't even release the picks. They're like Fleeced. Yeah. Either you're doing the Fleecing or you're getting Fleeced. Yeah. But I'm, yeah, I, I, as

much Ryan Poles has an A plus rating for me, approval rating for me, because he's done everything to get the bears to a position where they will have full flexibility. And now they're starting to be like, Hey, he like, he went into this office. He went into this season being like, I didn't draft Justin Fields. I have to, I have to see it. Like I'm not going to just start going and grabbing wide receivers and hoping that he's good. And I really do think this last month, like the way he's played, he's seen enough flashes with guys that are like Darno Mooney's, maybe a three on, on a good team. He's seen enough flashes like, you know what, let's start, let's start the process of rebuilding this roster and helping you out.

What are the Steelers thinking though? Like at the other end of it, if you have a young quarterback, you'd like to keep your weapons around him that you have. I think George Pickens probably, you know, drafting him. He looks like he could be very, very good. They already have Deontay Johnson. I also, that's, that's the other part of this trade I love. What team drafts better than anyone? It's Pittsburgh Steelers wide receivers. Yeah. And also go trade for one. Also if the sole Justin Fields thing doesn't pan out, Chase Claples got a hell of a left arm on him. Justin Fields is going to pan out. That was a great two yard touchdown pass that he threw on Sunday. I should, I should actually clarify. Justin Fields might not pan out because the Bears might ruin him,

but he is the guy. Also it's just cool to have a Canadian on your feet sometimes. You're, you're laughing at me. I just love, I love, I love your enthusiasm. I, I believe you've come to the conclusion like today. I'm all in. My, my heart is all around. Four hours ago. Everything is all in. There's no way this is going to backfire. This is, there's no way this is going to end in tragic, tragic heartbreak for me. I, I want to say that I felt this way about Mitch, but I never felt this way about Mitch. I didn't feel this way about Cutler either. And I believe, I told myself, yeah. Yeah. I try to tell myself. I don't, that means that's just false. I felt this way about Kyle Orton. Um, I, he's the guy. He's the guy. He's a guy. No, he's the guy. You guys are going to

love Jay. You guys are going to be jealous that I found a guy. I understand. No, I'm not jealous. I'm not jealous. No, it's fine. He's a guy. I have a guy. You, you have a guy. I have a guy. Yeah. I hope so does Max. Yeah. I hope you guys are happy. Well, oh, I'm very happy in my relationship with my guy. I hope, I hope you are. Me and my guy are going to live forever. Just we're going to be, we're going to be laughing about this in 20 years sitting on the front porch, holding each other in our arms in regairement. Yeah. And regairement just fucking rings all over the place. It's going to be great. What do you, don't tell us you got a guy to Pilly. Wait, which guy? Pilly don't. No, no, no. Pilly, you're Polly. You know, sometimes, sometimes you got a guyism, but it

just needs a little fixing. Billy's into everything's fixable. Did you hear what? Oh, Billy, you're, you're, and you're Mormon guy or to pull a guy me. Yeah. Yeah. Did you hear what Orlovsky said about Zach Wilson today? Yeah, he's got to stop fudging. No, he said, grow the fudge up, grow the fudge. Actually, Dan, why don't you grow the fudge up? I just love that he said, I don't like that language on my TV. I can't swear on TV. Let me use fudge. Uh, but yeah, it was a crazy day. And then so that was NFL NFL. So we had like NFL trade deadline, a world series game, action came back, all these things. This is our version of that, that 30 for 30 where they had the world cup, the New York Rangers plan, the Knicks playing

OJ Simpson trial. That all happened in the span of about like 30 minutes. Simpson on the road. Oh, it was on the road. Yeah, it was in the Bronco. Yeah. And then Stanley Cup on top of all of it, the nets fire. Some were calling them Steve Trash, Steve Nash. And then like two hours later, from the clouds, I think Shams had it first. Emo, Emao Doka is going to be the next Nets head coach. It happened. It happened less than two hours. It happened almost immediately. So there was the initial report that, that Steve Nash was being fired. And then the report came out clarifying that saying actually he's not fired. It was mutual. Yeah. Kendrick Perkins had an unbelievable tweet about it. You see that? No, I just thought it was very nice that it was mutual.

Yeah. Kendrick Perkins, which I didn't know, I didn't know he had had this in him because he's, he's an ESPN guy. So I thought they weren't allowed to. No, Perkins say whatever he wants. Yeah, he could say whatever the fuck he wants. He said, mutual decision. What the fuck is that? Nets, you're fired. Steve Nash, I agree. Yeah. Carry the hell on. Great tweet. It really is like the mutual decision. They both agreed that he sucked at his job and should be fired. I do like the Nets. What they've done is they're like, it's gotten so crazy and it is such a shit show here. Let's add the one coach that is supposedly like toxic and has been suspended for an unprecedented year suspension from the Celtics. And we still don't really know what he

did. Let's bring him in hit. Like I kind of respect being like the circus is so crazy. Let's just make it crazy. The craziest part of all this, I think is that, that this conversation had been going on behind the scenes for a while. Oh yeah. They didn't just decide to hire EMA 30 minutes after they fired Steve Nash. And I don't know, like I don't know what happened in Boston, but doesn't seem like EMA would be the kind of guy that would go around another man's back. What did happen in Boston, Hank? I don't know. Because he certainly did. It looked like he did it with Steve Nash because he was talking about another man's job. He was taking interviews with the Nets before Steve Nash was fired. Now the Celtics, they, for whatever reason, didn't fire him.

They kept him around after suspending him and they also let him interview and go coach a different team for free. For free. For free. No, no, no, no picks or anything. He's just walking out the door, walking to the Nets. Hank. Crazy story. Yeah. Not sure how to feel. I think you got to feel bad because this is what he won coach of the year last year, right? He was a great coach. He led them to the championship. It's hard to, I just don't get how they got nothing out of it and why they just let him walk. It sounds like they're psyched to have him not be their problem anymore. Yeah. And also not be fucking their wives anymore. It would have been a real problem, I think, for them to try to integrate himself back into the locker room and into the team.

And so now they're like, thank God, the Nets solved this problem for us. We don't have to worry about that. And he's a very good coach because, I mean, that's stating the obvious because he went to the finals last year, but I think there's a revisionist history out there with where the Celtics ended up and where they started this year. The Celtics, remember in like December last year, were dead. They were terrible. And people were giving up on, remember all the talks about how you had to trade Jason Tatum or Jaylen Brown and EMA Odoka just got them back together and got them to the fucking finals. Yeah, no, it's hard. I mean, he was an unbelievable coach. He's an ultimate, I mean, that's the thing. It's hard to really say because you don't know exactly what happened

behind the scenes. I don't think it had anything to do with the players. And he was a great coach for them. He got him fired up and like he, with all the star power, he like kept them together and kind of like alpha dumb and was like, just, just suck it up and play as a team. I don't know that this new coach is going to be able to do that. And he's probably going to be good for the Nets. And that's, that's a problem like within the division. Yeah. Yeah. What if the Nets get figured? See, the thing is though, I think you don't have to be that worried because I think the Nets are so dysfunctional. Right now. Bulls beat him tonight. Bulls are back. But yeah, I think it's, it's crazy that when this happened, I thought to myself, there's

unlocks them, right handed. It's not a bad idea. I think, yeah, when this story broke, I was like, there's no one wants to coach this team. No one in the right, you either have to be, I don't know how he's going to do either have to be insane or unemployed to take the Nets job. And they went with option B, which was email, because like there's so much shit going on in Brooklyn right now. It's like, it's probably the most thankless job in the world. You've got headcases all over the place. Although if you've got a fan base that's pissed off at two out of the three superstars that you're supposed to have on your team. But if you can get them to even respectable at this point with how bad they've been playing and how bad they went out last year,

like it is a thankless job. But if they got, let's say the three seed, I think you like that was an incredible, like he's the best coach of all time. Three seeds, not bad. They are bad right now, but it's a complete dumpster fire. It is. Like there's a story every day. I mean, Ben Simmons is he, he's back to being hurt. I think he didn't play tonight or last night. They almost lost to the Pacers who are tanking. Now it's, now it's emailing you. I could see it in your eyes, Hank. I don't like it. You're, I'm not a fan. You're, you're afraid of very well could happen. He could go in there and maybe I'm not even worried about the Nets as much as I'm, it's more just like, what if something, you know, the Celtics went to the championship last year,

if there's a regression and it's like, you know, it comes back to you wish you had a coach like email that that would suck. Yeah. What about if you run into him in the playoffs, right? Kind of crazy how I know Celtics is a Sunday, December 4th. I don't, we don't even know when he's going to get to coach more, more shit has to come out though. Like he's going to have to do press. He's going to have to do interviews. Well, I mean they, they haven't said anything. He just, he hasn't said anything publicly. So you just have Kyrie do the interview for him and be like, well, I'm a basketball coach. Why are you asking me about fucking someone's wife? It's, it's interesting because allegedly, if, allegedly, if email does have to do,

but clearly, the people that are keeping it quiet are the same people that would be bringing email back to the Celtics. Now that he's like gone behind their backs directly and went to arrival, the people that were keeping all the secrets have really no need to keep his secrets anymore unless it involves them directly. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? I mean, it would be like if Belichick fucked Robert Kraft's new wife and then got suspended and then next year was like, I'm coaching the Jets now. Yeah. I don't think that has anything to do with this story, but if that happened, that would be crazy. I don't think they're related. What do you mean? I just don't get the, you know, yeah, that's a, that's a sports coach.

What are you talking about? I don't, I don't know what happened with email. You're, you're, you're, you're playing that game. Okay. Yeah. I guess I don't know either. I think, I think, this is going to get a whole lot more interesting. Same. I mean, that's what I think. You know, once the details come out, they come out, but yeah, clearly the Celtics, that's what, that's what is crazy. Is your new coach pretty good though? Yeah. He is good, but he's, he's unknown. Email obviously one coach of the year and led them to the championship. I, all right, I'm going to make you feel better, Hank. I don't think you have to worry about the Nets. And I know that what it sucks that email is gone because he is a very good coach, but the Nets are not,

I actually do not think they're fixable. I really don't. I hope not. I tend to agree, except I think that if you have Kevin Durant on your team, you can maybe be fixed, but he doesn't want to be there either. Yeah. But if you, if you, but he didn't like Steve Nash and he loves email, but he picked Steve Nash. But yeah, but here you go. Wish you washy. I also, I think that, that you can work around Ben Simmons and Kyrie being weirdos because at the end of the day, you've proven that you can play without them and not be God awful all the time. So yeah, it could work with Kevin Durant. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a crazy day, crazy day. Max said, do it. Do it. Yeah. There we go. Okay. We're going to get to the rest of the show. We talked Monday football,

hot seat, cool throne, Michael Irvin, Chase Daniel guys on. I feel like we've been in the studio 17 times today because we actually recorded, if there's a weird edit, did it make sense? Max, when you listen back, if there's a weird edit, we did the Roku on Smith talk after the Monday football talk. And then when everything got traded today, we're just like, well, fuck it. Let's just do it all at once. So yeah. It's fine. It's fine. We've just been, we've just been in these. We did every segment and a different. Yeah. These microphones. This has been a 12 hour podcast that we've done today. You know what? And that's hand up on me a little bit because I just forgot that today was the trade deadline until like three trades happened. And I was like, wait,

what's up today? Yeah, but also we did spoiler alert. We did two separate lottery machine things. Yeah. And we'll Hank get it because I, I, it was not for, no, I know that. I know that. I'm just saying he gets an extra. What's crazy is we did the first lotto machine thing so long ago. I forget if Hank got it or not. Did you get it? Tune in to find out. All right. Tune in to find out. Okay. We're going to kick it back to ourselves. What? No, no, we're not. We're, I can sense the way this is going. We're going to just, and I, I want to Billy, but I really don't want him to get it. No, Billy just wanted you to say yes. So he could say 69 and call it immediately. No. Okay. So before we get back to ourselves, Instacart, what's your favorite dip for game

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if the pass rush is coming after him, just like give the ball to Jamar and let him run away. Well, that's kind of the game plan. Instead of doing like a real hot route set up, it's just like, get the ball to Jamar before Miles Garrett gets to me and we can win this game. Yeah. I was gonna say Jamar Chase, I mean, he's one of the best receivers in the NFL. So not having him as a huge loss, but the Bengals offensive line look like it regressed on Monday, which is the one thing that if you're a Bengals fan, like you just have that in the back of your head at all times, like, Hey, are we going to be able to block anyone today? Oh, we can't. This sucks. I was looking at it because the Bengals are now 0 and 3 in the division. They're 4 and

4 overall. I'm not really nervous about them because I still think that they're a talented team and I trust Joe Burrow, but it was, it's like, as you get later in the season, you can't keep having games like you had on Monday night where they looked terrible. Like they looked really, really bad. And the Browns, I, the Browns have to be the most maddening team to root for this, obviously forever, you know, because they suck, but this specific year, because when they look good, they look like they could beat literally anyone, but they've looked so bad for that four game losing streak or whatever it was, five game losing streak that it's got to drive you nuts. Because if you are a Browns fan and you're thinking, Oh, Deshaun Watson is coming back

in November, late November, you just keep looking at that Jets loss. You keep looking at that Chargers loss. Like all these games that if they flip and you were treading water a little bit more, you'd feel so much more confident and they have some tough games coming up. Yeah, they've got all the ingredients to be a good team too, which must be very frustrating. Right. Because it might like if you're a Browns fan, it seems very simple to be like Kevin run the fucking football. Like let's not overthink this. We've got Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt is a great backup. And Durnis Johnson is a great backup backup. Yes, back to so and you've got maybe the best offense or one of the best offensive lines and the best offensive line coach in football. It just run the run the

fucking ball. Right. Not even run the damn ball for them. It's just like, dude, pull your head out of your ass and just run the ball or throw to a Mario Cooper who he's back. He's back fifth round pick. Yeah, that was like not bad. It was fun watching him just like streak down the side. They'd be like, Oh, yeah, Mario Cooper. Yeah, I was really good. I was ready to say Mario Cooper is washed. No, he's just he's just in Cleveland, right, which is kind of the same thing sometimes. Yes, but just run the ball. Stafansky, if he just runs the ball, you're going to be able to tread water. It's maddening if you're a Browns fan because it's it's so easy. It's like we talked about the ingredients. If you if you go to Taco Bell, they just put the seven ingredients

in whatever format that they want and it always works out well. That's how it should be for Kevin Stafansky. Right. You should never introduce something else to this offense. Like putting Jacobi percent sometimes he's actually the perfect vehicle for this offense because he should just hand the ball off and occasionally do play action. Right. Then when you're like, All right, Jacobi, maybe let's let's air let's air it out a little bit. Let's see what you can do, Jacobi. It's like, no, just stick to what works. And that's giving the ball to Nick Chubb and getting the fuck out of the way. I love Jacobi Berset when he scrambles as well, because he looks like he's in slow motion, even though it's regular speed. There's something about quarterbacks like that who when when they

start to run, he scored a touchdown. So he actually, you know, was able to do it. But when they start to run and you're like, Oh, wait, they're they're not getting faster. This is this top gear. They're already in top gear. And everyone is descending on that. But he's like deceptively slow sometimes where it's like you keep waiting for him to hit that next gear. And so the fact that he never gets up there, it's also kind of hard to know. Yeah, no, he has deceptive speed. He's slower than he looks. Yes. And he and as it's happening, it's just something about it where I mean, Brady has done it a couple of times this year where he's like that my team sucks. I have to run. And it's what it's essentially watching a car crash in slow motion because they're moving at such a slow

speed and everyone else is moving so fast. And you're like, can they even slide before everyone gets there? Right. Like, are they even fast enough to just go down before everyone descends on Nick Foles was like that too. He takes off and you keep you're like, OK, run. It's great. He's not going to run. It's like, no, wait, he's not going faster. Oh, wait, no, no, there is no extra gear like he's guys are like diving in front of them tackling where they think he should be. Yeah, they're trying to hit the treadmill to go up a little bit higher and it just won't go. And you're just like, OK, this is going to be a problem. So yeah, I the AFC is nuts in that I think both these teams like are still they're both like very much able to get to the playoffs. The Browns

may be a little less because they play the Dolphins and Bills next. But it's crazy to look at the AFC and realize there's two really good teams and everyone else kind of sort of has a shot. Yeah. Like I like there is no. I actually think the Browns do have an outside shot. So because the Ravens are going to win this division. The Browns are not there by no means out of it. And when you have Miles Garrett playing like Miles Garrett, it might be a Halloween thing. Miles Garrett just he's a Halloween guy. That guy loves Halloween. You know, there are like a lot of people that say, oh, I go all out at Christmas. Christmas is my thing. You don't see that that much for Halloween and a younger guy. But Miles, there's something about the holiday that like he he

loves getting spooky. Yeah. Anyone who makes a specific holiday, their personality always kind of creeps me out. Can you pick any holiday? Yeah. They're just like, oh, I'm just so huge on this holiday. Linda Tripp was like that. If you saw the show on FX, the lady that that recorded Monica Lewinsky's phone calls, she just like lives her entire year for Christmas. Yeah. For her Christmas party that they just become. Yeah. Like that's that that half of their personality is like, yeah, I go hard Halloween like Billy would say Patrick's Day. Right. Exactly. Yeah. A couple other things from a night of football. One, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman should wear those yellow jackets every single game. They look awesome. I know Joe was like, oh, I look so old and funny.

No, Joe, Joe, you look good in that. Yeah. It's when you try to look like hip and cool. That's when it falls like you. Joe Buck has a face that's that's meant for like retro fashion. Yes. It works and Troy works in that too. So yeah, just wear the yellow jackets all the time. And then Joe Burrow trying to chase down his interception when he realized that Miles Garrett was running after him and about to block him and then Joe turning around and just running away from Miles Garrett. Smart move by extremely relatable business decision. Yes. And I they should always have whatever the money I football is closest to Halloween should always be in Cleveland because the crowd was hilarious. The sad clown to start the whole broadcast that kind of creeped

everyone out. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like Cleveland, you know, the colors. The colors. They're just the perfect spot for a Halloween game. Very should be a tradition. Very spooky. Yeah, it should. It should be the same as the Lions and the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Yeah. Cleveland should always get the Halloween game. And I liked it against the Bengals too. It was just orange and black everywhere. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was very festive. And for a while it was it was zero to zero. And on the on the score bug at the bottom, the Bengals B made it read out boo. Yeah, it was perfect. Very scary. Like Joe Burrow had the boo shirt coming in. All right, college football. There's not a lot to talk about, except we talked about the Michigan,

Michigan State thing. We have the biggest weekend. It's not like top to bottom. It doesn't have, you know, whatever it was a few weeks ago, or seven ranked first ranks. But Georgia, Tennessee and LSU, Alabama is going to figure out a lot of the questions of like what the rest of the season is going to look like. My pants just got tighter. Just hearing you describe the upcoming college football Saturday. It's such a good college football Saturday that so we're going to Chicago on Thursday. We're doing an upfront thing there. I'm going to stick around and check out Chicago a little bit, get the vibe of the city. Only been there a few times. I changed my flight back on Saturday to make absolutely sure that I would not miss a second of Georgia, Tennessee.

Yeah, because that's what kind of weekend it's going to be. It's actually nice that the the first slate isn't that great. So you can really build yourself up for Georgia, Tennessee and LSU. There are certain games where like I could compromise and I'd say, you know what? I watched it on the plane or I can catch this the second half at the airport before my flight takes off. No, no, I want to be like in a very in my comfortable environment set up. This is like the college football game of the year for me. And I've got to take that. I've been I've been halfway deploying, but I'm ready to go full nuke on it. Okay. So just tell me, tell me what you think about Tennessee. I think that this Tennessee team is extremely close, if not almost identical

to the LSU team in 2019 so far. A lot of yeah. So I've seen a lot of people make the comparison between the two. I still think the LSU team was far more talented. Well, it's so Tennessee obviously has a long way to go. But Tennessee is very good in terms of scoring average and all that. They're averaging like half a point more per game. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen a lot of people make that connection and be like, Hey, look, the this Tennessee team, they're starting to get in their defense is getting better. I just still think when you when you talk about the actual talent on the LSU rock, like having all those wide receivers was insane. And that LSU defense did end up being a lot better than it was. And again, Tennessee's gotten better. We'll see. I mean, this is fun because

they get to they get to prove it against Georgia. I know, like this take could blow up in my face. And obviously, I'm saying at this point in the season, yeah, they're they're comparing favorably. And I think the comparisons are there for Hinden Hooker and Joe Burrow to both super old guys that stuck around. You remember, like when we first met Joe, when he was a junior at LSU, yeah, he wasn't like setting the world on fire. No, no, we saw them score zero points against Bama. Yeah, Hinden kind of plays the same type of ball where he like, especially when he runs, he loves to run at people. He loves running people over, not like super, super fast, but fast enough and I don't know. I just I get the I get similar vibes from those teams. Yeah, I just again,

I would just lean to LSU was just so fucking out of this world. Yeah. I mean, they were probably the best college football team at the time. Yeah. But I'm saying and the guys who went in the draft like that next year, like the fact that they had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase on the same team, like those are the those are the two. Are they the two best receivers in the NFL right now? I don't know. I mean, we are Tyreek, but like they're two of the top four or five. I that's that's pretty stupid. And actually the Bama team where I mean, the Bama team was was out of this world to the year before or the year after. I mean, hi, it's pretty good though. Yeah, no, he is. He's pretty good. He's not like Jamar Chase, right? There's a difference. He's pretty good. I did

see this is going to be my cool thrown actually was just college football fans being mad about rankings because there's this dude that ranked Alabama ahead of Tennessee in his poll because the deep numbers are telling him like through computers that Alabama is a better team than Tennessee. Now, some people would say well, they played they actually those two teams played each other and Tennessee won. Yeah. But not this guy. I love this guy's commitment to just being like we should play the games just in a simulation. Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, why even why even have games? Let's just get the computers out. Yeah, roll the computers out. So that means you're you think Tennessee is going to beat Georgia. I'm not of all for life like you, but I am of all for

now. Yeah, I love them. I think I think that they will. I'm I like them to cover. I don't Georgia is just they always this the this iteration of Georgia just scares the ever living shit out of me in any big game. They've been kind of human recently. They were for a stretch, but they've come back to being Georgia. So they had that stretch. No, they kind of they didn't they didn't play great. Yes. Florida, the third quarter right back in that game. It was never a doubt though. Florida looked like a better team than them in the third quarter. I mean, Tennessee played Florida Tennessee and that was a closer margin. If we're going to play that game. Yeah. Like that's, you know, that was a closer game than Florida, Georgia. I'm just saying Georgia. Georgia's

beatable. Yeah. They're not like they're not juggernauts. I we we oftentimes will compare them to the team that won the national championship and that's a very high bar to hit. So they might be still very, very, very, very good. And they did have I want to say they played. So I know the Missouri game was was was the game where it was like, whoa, what's wrong with Georgia here? But then they had a stretch after that where they beat the shit out of a few teams. It was like, okay, Georgia's like they beat the ever living shit out of Auburn. I know that everyone does, but you still should get credit for absolutely smushing the opponents that suck. They beat the ever living shit out of Vanderbilt. Again, that's a terrible team. But that was more like Georgia

last year. Georgia definitely rocks. Georgia is very, very good. And their two tight ends are just pretty much unstoppable. Yeah, you can't you can't shut down those two guys. It's just a matter of like, is there if their defense plays up to how good they can play. And again, I'm thinking back to week week one against Oregon, then nobody nobody in college football can beat them. Yeah, I mean, but but Tennessee's offense is good enough and they play at fast enough tempo. And this is why I don't get the hypo to the NFL stuff. In the first place, he's a dumbass if he even thinks about leaving to go to the NFL. I hope he's just using it to get a bigger contract at Tennessee. But just college football coaches memo to you guys, like don't be a shithead. It doesn't work

when you go to the NFL. Right. I think at this point, I'm rooting for just Tennessee versus Ohio State in the national championship game. That I think that over under would be like 85. I'll be awesome. It would be incredible. You know how you talk about having different colors in college football playoff? Yeah. The Tennessee Orange and the college football playoff is awesome. It needs to get in exactly what I need. It needs to get in. So yeah. And then I LSU the that game, the fact that there are 13 point underdogs to Bama at home. That's the only reason I think I'm going to have to take Bama is because I love LSU so much. I know that probably is the dumbest sentence ever said, but gamblers will understand what I'm saying. When

you see a line and you're like, that makes no sense. That like take the points all day. That's a pretty good indication that you're very wrong. It's actually similar to the Kentucky Tennessee game where I was like, Kentucky will keep this close. This is way too many points. Nope. That's couldn't be more wrong under the lights. Yeah. A bunch of a bunch of really drunk Cajun people. Bama fans. We have one here. Shadow Travis for the boys. He calls LSU, Bryant Denny West, because I didn't realize this, but they haven't won. LSU hasn't beaten Alabama at LSU since 2010. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. They beaten Alabama more in Bryant Denny than they have at Baton Rouge. That's pretty, I did not. Right. I did not realize that. Yeah. So I was like, oh, okay.

Bryant Denny West. That's always such a mean thing to say. Yeah. I mean, I'd say it sometimes with like the Brewers. I'd be like wriggly north. We own you. Yeah. Right. That's it. It is kind of mean and just being like, we'll have more fans. They won't have more fans, but we have some breaking news in the NFL breaking moves breaking moves. The Minnesota Vikings have just acquired TJ Hawkinson tight end University of Iowa by way of the Detroit Lions. So I guess are the lot. Oh, are the Vikings and when now now mode they are. I think the Vikings are all in. They're in full when now mode breaking news. The worst trade involving TJ since the Louisiana purchase. Bam. Billy loves that one. Yeah. Nailed it. That's how you know you fucking nailed a

joke when Billy's the only one to laugh. I laughed. Thank you. I got you. Um, like the least talked about one lost team. Well, because they're fraught. Yeah, big cat. You you're really disrespected them way more on Sunday. I was trying to be nice to him and he talked me back into disrespect. Now I'm going to I'm he's he pulled me back on to the disrespect boat. Yeah. Listen, I'm I was falling off the boat. Sometimes I have to I have to realize when I'm all in on a take and I might be wrong about it, but fucking I'm not going back. Like I've been on this take. They're not winning the Super Bowl. I've been on this. I've been on this take for six years. Okay, I will be right. I'm very consistent. I'm I wish you watched you about a lot of things,

but my my take on Kirk Cousins has not wavered. And yeah, we'll be right. We will be right. We might have to deal with them winning a playoff game, even two playoff games, but we will be fine. God, I'm the only one who's hyped the Vikings on this show about three weeks ago. Congrats. That was ball. Congrats. What happened three weeks ago? I was like, I think the Vikings are for real, but also been talking to a lot of Vikings. You nailed that one. Damn crushed it. Oh, TCU. I know TCU fans. I've been getting some tweets being like you guys never talked about TCU. Well, guess what? We're not going to talk about TCU, but we're going to have your coach on Friday, Sonny Dykes. So that's I feel like that's more

than enough to talk. So there you go. All right, let's do hot seat, cool throne brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Our weeks are filled with deadlines, responsibilities, and just stress in general, but it's college football season. And when the weekend hits, you've got to protect your chill. So this season, make time to chill out and catch the game at your favorite bar. And while you're at it, order a nice cold Coors Light, the beer that's made to chill, protect your chill this season with Coors Light. Coors Light is the beer of college football, whether your team is a power house with a record to keep an underdog with a point to prove. One thing's for sure, it's going to be a hell of a season. Stay refreshed through all the action with Coors Light because no matter

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I mean, I, she probably needs like the money where she's like, let's start hitting those Spotify streams now. I don't know if she needs the money, but I think she's just, it's a little bit early. I'm a, I'm a big Thanksgiving guy. Yeah. Thanksgiving is the best holiday. It's my number one football and food. Yeah. So it's not time. Yeah. No, it's not. Definitely not. Mariah is, she must have set like a, she scheduled her tweet for the first Halloween ended and then she scheduled, she just, that's what I'm saying. For the first of December and it accidentally got scheduled for the first of November. Although it's complete bullshit. When you do go to like Costco, I've noticed that they do put out their Christmas decorations in like August now.

Really? It's weird. Yeah. That is weird. Yeah. Don't, let's not rush it. Let's not rush it. Thanksgiving. We still got a lot of great football rivalries. Come on. Come on. Come on. Let's not do this. It's crazy. We have all of December. What are you laughing about, Billy? We should just have Eminem just like keeping where I carry away until Christmas season. Nice. Eminem. Just like maybe send out a diss track. I don't know. That's, that's not a bad idea. I haven't, I haven't heard an Eminem song in a while. He's been out of the news recently. Get him back. I like that. All right. What's your cool throw? I don't know if this is a hot seat or cool song, cool throw, but Sony said they sold 25 million PlayStation fives, but that's not, that's not, that's way. Where are they?

So yeah, wait, what? It's hard to get them. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I know. I know. How's that going? Fine. I got, I got both the people that won PlayStation fives. Really? You had to be invited to a group on Amazon. Oh, I thought that. That's crazy. Yeah. Nuts. 25 million. Then my cool throw is under the Swifties. She announced today that she is doing a tour, going on tour, stadium tour. Yeah. And she's in the running for the one millionth PFT follower. So. Oh, nice. Big, big day for the Swifties. Heck, that's a cool shirt. Yes. This is the 999 club shirt. Oh, nice. You're the 999 club. You should buy one. It's actually exclusive. So only if you're in the 999 club, you can purchase it. And we're only selling 999 of them

right now. So. Can I have one? Yeah. I mean, I'm in the club. Yeah, you can. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Horstle store. Horstle store is going to get one. It's Taylor Swift, Elon, and then I need a third person. Cardi B. Cardi B. That's a good. To be the millionth follower. She's actually active on tour. Yeah. I feel like she would be the front runner just by how active she is. Okay. Those are the three. Okay. So I'm staying locked at 999,900 until I get. 999. Yeah, but it's tough because it ebbs and flows. So if I put out a tweet that's mid, I'd drop like 25 followers. Got to let 25 people in the door. Rosillo just got back in. Nice. Congrats to him. Yeah. No, he wanted to be the millionth. That's why he said he

unfollowed because he was like, I wanted to be a millionth follower. No way, dude. It's like, come on, Ryan. Should block him. I actually should. Yeah. Okay. You're hot seat, cool throne. So my hot seat, it was going to be, it's going to be us because a lot of people dressed up as us for Halloween this year, which is always very surreal to see. It's like a pinch yourself moment and it's pretty cool most of the time. But then I just realized that people are just putting pillows inside their shirts to be big cat and then their girlfriend is just being me. Yeah. I mean, that's how it's been forever. Yeah. It's a great couple's costume. Just once I'd like to be the guy. Yeah. Just once. Yeah. That's probably never going to happen.

Shout out that one, that one group that did me, PFT, Billy and Hank and that was like, it was Billy. Dude, the guy had no laces in his boots. Yeah. He had a camo backpack. He had the same glasses. He looked like a douchebag. It was perfect. He was you. It was a verse to hot sauce. Yeah. It might have actually been you. I could hear him complaining in the picture. It was like a great. Are we done with the stupid picture yet? It was yeah. No, it is always surreal when we see people do that. Wait, wait, let's do a TikTok before. And then my cool throne was going to be college football fans being mad about rankings. But I'm going to change. I'm going to say my cool throne is Michael Irvin because I really like the interview.

Yes. I loved having him in studio. He's fucking just energy. Yeah. Oh yeah. Energy personified. He just goes on his sermons. I think people really like him. And I was doing some some background on Michael after he came in here, actually, because I was like, you know, I remember there was a controversy around him and he alluded to it when he was on ESPN, when he lost his job on ESPN like like 20 years ago. Yeah. They found a weed pipe in his car. I thought it was a. No, it was it was a weed pipe. 20 years ago, weed was very dangerous. It was a weed pipe with I swear to God, in the police thing, it said baggies with marijuana residue on him and he got fired from ESPN and people are like, I don't know if we can hire Michael Irvin just because he was

because he had a fucking a weed. Yeah. But see what you're doing is you're judging it by today's standards. Weed was like the number one killer of all drugs 20 years ago. That's true. It was so dangerous. Weed was way, way stronger back in 2003. Like kids these days with they've got like your 50% THC like hybrid shit that you get. Like try try puffing on that Afghan from back in 2002 and get back to me. Scary stuff. I'm just happy we survived. We lost a lot of good men. Spoken weed back in the day. All right. My hot seat is Billy. Sam Elinger is a coach killer. So the offensive coordinator for the Colts has been relieved of his duty. I think that's the first time an offensive coordinator ever has been relieved of his duty like four days after the first start

of a quarterback. Coach killer. Well, maybe it's because he has because he hasn't utilized him correctly. Maybe one time. I actually think here's what you go Billy. He's fired because Sam Elinger looks so good. Yeah. Why did you wait this long to put him in as a starter? Yeah. That talent evaluation. Yeah. And someone else can definitely use him better. The real answer is Frank Reich is the walls are closing in on him because he's had the vote of confidence and the firing of the OC. It's like the most sure sign a coach is getting fired. Yeah. There was a tweet. So Jim Ursay tweeted about their offensive coordinator being fired and then at the very end of it. I'm just going to read out loud. He goes this morning we relieved Marcus Brady of his duties as offensive

coordinator. I wish this good man all the best and then hit him with the thumbs up emoji. Oh nice. You're fired but thumbs up. There's a thumbs up for the road. Yeah. I like that. I like that. All right. And then my cool throne is the Lakers. I don't know how we missed this. But last week there was a story that came out. Russell Westbrook bought the house across the street from LeBron James. So the Lakers are back. Oh that's very good. Yeah. That's great team chemistry. So I just love the idea of like LeBron looking at his window and Russ is just bricking shots in the driveway across the street and being like fuck he wants a carpool today. So the one rule that that I gave to to the realtor that's helping me look for a place in Chicago is like I don't want to live on the same

street as Big Cat. We spend enough time working together. And if we're in the same neighborhood it's whatever. But you want to have like a little whole one across the street is quite something. That's actually a little thirsty on Westbrook. Yeah. Big time or like a little stalkery. It could be like a creepy. Yeah. Like you better not you better not talk shit about me. I know where you live like across the street. Exactly. Yeah. So I just I it's a it's just a very funny visual of the two of them like LeBron can't get rid of this Westbrook's going to like tax and be like hey I see you're drinking some wine. Yeah. You mind if I come over. Yeah. Wait. I smell tacos. Is it Tuesday again. Yeah. Huh. All right Billy. My hot seat is PFT. Oh. So not that crazy. A couple

of years ago you had that idea to make Rumbler like Tinder for fighting. Yeah. So it turns out an Israeli company has developed it. It's called Mishu dot I am and you can go on there hop on there and find people to argue with. And if you want to consensually fight each other. That's awesome. Like in in Washington right mutual combat state Kwame Brown taught us that. And my cool throne. Are you on it Billy. No I haven't signed up yet. Why not. Because I can't read. Oh because your fists are deadly weapons. You can't. Yes. You couldn't fight somebody you get charged murder. Yes. My cool throne is pandemic amnesty. Turns out anything you do during the pandemic we're all going to forget about and forgive each other. So I'm done with everything.

So this was an article I think in the New York Times and it was so fucking funny because it was I think it was written from the side of like someone who's been freaking out and yelling at everyone to wear their mask constantly for like two years and they're like hey let's just forget all that stuff we did. Yeah. No no no no no. I'm actually I'm okay with forgetting that the last two years happened entirely. I my brain cannot like there will be things that are said and memories and I just can't like place it because of the last whatever two and a half years. Yeah just like the last two years objectively we're not good for a lot of people. Can we just like I will go back to being 25 years old subtract two years from your age bill you'd be 21. Yeah. No that's a bad

idea. Let's make him 20. You can't drink. Yeah good point. Yeah you didn't touch alcohol until you're 21. I yeah I'm fine with just pretending that's the year 2020 again. Yeah. Sweet. Just get back to it. It was funny though to just be like reset. Sorry guys maybe overreact a little. It's like some people said some things that we listen we all kind of stepped over the line a little bit. I think anything should be forgiven like anything. Yeah. Oh really what did you do. Why would you do the last two years. Like anything. Anything specific you want to tell us. No but whatever was forgive me for it. Okay. So just tell us what it is. Yeah. Never happened. You're forgiven. Starting the pandemic in Italy. Both things. I was in Wuhan. Yeah. Okay. Kicking frogs. Yeah. Yeah

that was. All right. Jake. My hot seats the Philadelphia 76ers they lost a pair of second round picks for illegal free agency. Oh I heard I heard Hank turn his microphone on. It's a second. Football season. Yeah. I would have had it but it's baseball and football season. Are they taking. I heard they were. Hank would know more than me. I don't even pay attention. One last night. One last night. Didn't even play one last night. Wow. Yeah. Harden 17 assists. He's back to MVP for him. I'm sure that will turn out poorly for you. Good luck with that. MVP for him. I'll say it again. Let me check what month it is. Let me check back to MVP. November. I'm sure he'll be an MVP come June. I think Harden's really great. He's great shape.

Did you see him. Yeah. Right. Before Thanksgiving. Yeah. He's he's. Tyrese Maxey absolute star. Sixers are back. Okay. Hank is going to be sick. Hank are you going to be sick. No. Well they don't have a second round pick. So yeah. So MVP like six years to me taking away second round picks from the from NBA teams. It's like OK what does that do. Like three or four of those guys will stick. It's less than a slap on the wrist to them. Yeah. Also if we are if we are going to go with the hated narrative there's nothing in the world I'm rooting more for than the Lakers to get the number one pick in the lottery. Why. Because the pelicans get their pick. Oh. Okay. Good. You got it. Yeah. I forgot that part. I like how Hank calls it like the

hater narrative. Yeah. Like it's not actually how you feel. Yeah. If you weren't other people. Yeah. Well yeah. People are acting like I'm a hater. So if you know I'm going to play the part. Yeah. You're doing a bit. Yeah. The Lakers do have a lot of cap space which sucks. Coming up I believe. But yeah. Maybe play the hater narrative. Be unbelievable. That would be an unbelievable lottery ball draw. Okay. My cool throne is the XFL. They announced their ATMs. They're back. PFT or DC defenders returning. We've got the Vegas Vipers. The Seattle Sea Dragons. The Orlando Guardians. The St. Louis Battlehawks. The San Antonio Brahmas. The Arlington Redigades. The Houston

Roughnecks. And the defenders. So. And when is this starting. February. February what. 2023. It's like. Yeah. Right after the Super Bowl. Okay. Yeah. So you'll watch opening week. I don't even know. I've long. I've stayed pretty firm on my thoughts that like I love the seasons of sports and like March is so sacred to me for college basketball. Like I just I love March. We need PFT to get a try out again. Yeah. I mean I'm ready. I've been working out. Kind of. You turned down NFL offers. That was a quick kind of. Yeah. I've turned down NFL offers. Multiple NFL offers. It should be known that I actually Mike Rabel. Oh the Rock. And Arthur Smith. What if the Rock is your million. That's actually

a great call. Oh the Rock. So you can collab your free agency. That would unlock my powers. Yes. Yes. And if we're going with the narrative that you know the COVID didn't exist like you're basically just coming off getting cut. Yeah. True. Yeah. Second I'm ready. Fresh in the free agency. I'm ready. Just like just unleash me. I'm I was right before. Yeah I was good to go. Yeah. Yeah. The XFL it's it's weird because they're every team is practicing in Arlington and then they're they're flying out for their games to their specific cities. It's a weird setup that they have and the the Guardians they were the New York team. But I guess Darren Ravel embarrassed them so much when you put on that stupid uniform

that they just moved to Orlando to get away from them. Nice. So Orlando gets them and then Seattle moved from being the Dragons to the Sea Dragons now. I like that. It's cooler. I think you're on the ocean synergy with the Seahawks. Yeah. Yeah. And then the Vipers they used to be Tampa Bay. Now they're Vegas the Vegas Vipers. So you have to remind me all this stuff. I don't know. I'm just a D.C. defenders guy. So Rock get in touch with me. I can still kick the dick out of football. And I'm actually here's a little wrinkle that I just thought of the other day. I'm going to bring back barefoot kicking. Nice. I'm going to be a barefoot kicker like they were in like the 70s and 80s. Like that's fucking that. That's going to put asses in seats. I

agree from like perverts out there that are foot guys. We get a pick. We get a picture of you maybe in black and white kicking a football barefoot losing a little hair. It's like holy shit. Are we in the 60s. It looks great. This is awesome. Maybe a cigarette on the sideline. Oh I will smoke during games. Yes. For sure. February 18th. So six days after the Super Bowl. Okay. Yeah. That's too that's too soon. I just yeah. I know that people will there's like a small sack to be like you're not a football guy. It's like I actually think that makes me more of a football guy because I just I love football season. And then when they start playing it during basketball season I need my seasons. I need my cycles. I'm a I'm a I'm a creature of habit.

If the Rock needs someone to call the games. You do that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. Of course. Yeah. If you guys get involved I'll begrudgingly watch and be like yay. There. That's my promise. Steam player. Perfect. Yeah. Okay. Let's get to our interview. What do you say Billy. Billy was going to be like 69. I picked 69. We're not. I know I got confused. So this should you should be eliminated. False start. Yeah. You absolutely be eliminated from this. Is that the first false start in the history of. Yeah. No. You have a five year penalty. You can't you have to pick last. That's way too early. Did you notice in the game last night that the the Browns like an hour tour. Yeah. The Browns had 12 men on the field on the very first

play. Yeah. That's fucking nuts. That was a very brown start. That's almost impossible to do. Yeah. But it's the Browns. Okay. Let's get to Michael Irvin and then we will do one question with a quarterback and finish up with guys on chicks. Before we get to the playmaker Michael Irvin he's brought to you by a good friend over at Roman. Here's a stat 42 percent almost half of men experience moderate to extensive hair loss in their lifetime. It's perfectly normal as we all found out recently I am one of them. But the doctors at Roman reached out they suggested that I take their free online consultation so I can get the right products for me in my hair. I learned that a sooner person starts treatment for hair loss the easier it is to keep the hair

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Yeah we got hair. We got hair. I got most of my hair. Yeah. Okay. You got that. Okay. Just get a little ball. This is the one thing you guys. This is the one thing man. I don't know why it affects men so much. Yeah. Like it is the real. Even when I'm on with Steven A. Right. And he messes with me. Oh you're wearing a toupee. It's not a toupee. My hair is real. I want to get back on Steven A. But I don't want to lose my audience. Yeah. Because if I get back on him because his hair is rescinding me. Your hair. Your hair is leaving right now. It's walking away from us as we sit right here talking. You know what I'm saying. That's 90 percent of the men out there. And I don't want to lose my audience so I just have to let it go. Yeah that's true. You can't.

If you go after bald guys. Right. On a sports show. You're putting yourself in the hallway. People are going to turn it off and be like what the fuck did you just say. Right. Exactly. Dooms do it man. It is tied to our ego. Yes. It is really tied to our ego. So like I said we've had you on before so we don't have to bring back up the when we played in the cold it was cold. Tweets and all that stuff. So I want we want to talk about some football. But I you mentioned Steven A. We are big fans of Steven A. Is there any prep that you do mentally to note like when you go into the battle with him knowing like he's going to plot all the tricks he's going to twist everything. He's he's a master at what he does like how do you know he is a master at what he

does. Yeah. And you got it and people understand that even that there's a talent to it all and he does have a talent. I was going off one day about Cowboys and their defense finger licking good. I must have gone on an eight nine minute ramp. Really small sermon. A sermon speech is what I call a sermon speech. I gave it to you. Put some word in there and everything. But he stayed out. Did not interrupt. People don't underestimate true talent like that. That's a gift to like hey. It's your show. I know when I got to pull out and just let you go. You know it's his show and he pulled he pulls back and let me go. So yeah. Now the only problem I got to do is I know what I'm going into. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. So I work Sunday morning. Steven A. is

tweeting at my show Sunday. I'm watching you. I heard what you said. Be ready tomorrow. Man. One show over here. One show over there. He's ducking you right now. He said he's he's out. He says that he is COVID right now. I don't know if you saw this tweet that he sent to you this morning. Oh yes. You're on the show. He said well you ruined one of his favorite. Michael you ruined his favorite segment this morning. He said that you put Tony Pollard over Derek Henry right in terms of your best running back of the weekend. That's you know that that's Steven A. Smith's favorite segment that he gets to do on Mondays. You put Tony Pollard your cowboy over there. And would you like to apologize to Steven A. Smith absolutely ruining his favorite

They gave me that playmaker. I am the now and I'm bringing up the adjective. They are a playmaker. I am the playmaker. I'm the now they're the adjective. I pick my playmakers and I put things on my playmakers like today. It was a mighty rushing win. Acts two two talks about it when all the one plays on one accord. You know it comes like sound like a mighty rushing win. But you take the D off. It was mighty rushing win. W.I.N. All the guys that have done it did a mighty job rushing the football to get the win. Now Pollard is number one because he took 15 rushes to get 131 yards. Incredible. Yeah 15 rushes to get 131 yards. It's not just the amount the number of yards. It's also how many times that I have to touch the ball to get it.

Derek here I think at 32 carries for 219 yards. And I almost I like talking distance travel too. Derek Harry that motar. I call him a motar. Half man half machine. That motar that motar. This is six times rushing for 200 yards. Yeah. Yeah. Six times. The three dudes that have done it three times. When I say their names I mean you're talking about the Damien Tomlinson. Barry Sanders and Jim Brown. Yeah. Don't get no better than that. And they only did it three times. And he did it six times. That's why he didn't need I didn't bring him number one because hey he's used to this. He said it four times against the Texans. Yeah the last four times he's played the Texans. He's done it. Yeah four times in a row.

So Tony Pollard was incredible. There's always one team you know you could just do it. Yeah who is that team for you. Well since I won so much so many rings I had quite a few teams. You had a lot of teams. Was there one team though that you're like I know I got them every time. I would have to say it was Arizona Cardinals every time. No matter what. We got it. We gonna beat them. We got them. They were in the east back there. Yeah they were in the east back there. They were in the east and then they went and drive to the nearest Williams and the nearest Williams he's in the Hall of Fame cornerback. He's a great dude man. He and I battled for quite a few years you know and he's in Dallas area a lot. So we used to battle and then you know I would run into him

in the restaurants. So we came became you know he's a pastor. We became great friends but but I would say yeah I've had my best games against Arizona. Well so the Tony Pollard thing this is obviously relevant right this second because Jerry Jones came out and said that Zeke is still the starting running back. Do you do you agree with that? Yes absolutely. Tony Pollard ran the ball 14 times people. He's electric. 14 times but yeah it is it's very explosive and that's why I made him number one playmaker. You go 14 rushes for 131 yards that's more than 32 for 209 for me 219 I mean that's what Derek had 219 but but but but yes I believe that. He's after it's 14 rushes. A true bell cow bat is Derek Henry who got 32 rushes. You see what

I mean. So so Pollard we can't run him 30 times. That's not him. So Zeke yeah Zeke starts it's a mentality in an order and that team is built around that Prescott and Zeke they came in together two one four that's the area code in Dallas 21 Zeke number four is that that's the area code that's how you got to run that team. You keep you get I don't care who you start but Tony gets about 14 cares Zeke carries the rest of the load. Okay what about what about a playmaker a wide receiver that's still the name's kind of out there right now it seems like he's doing a bit of a free agency tour almost like a college kid getting recruited the O'Dell Beckham. Yeah would you like to see O'Dell on the Cowboys. Oh I would love to see O'Dell on the Cowboys but even bigger than

that I guarantee you I could tell you O'Dell would love to see O'Dell on the Cowboys. Yeah he would. Yeah trust me. He wants to wear the star. Trust me trust me I know O'Dell O'Dell and I've had conversations about that a long time ago. Now what do you think O'Dell could be a number two receiver because CD right now. Right. See now I read about CD where it's like he had he had five catches 77 yards in touchdown and that means he's got 195 career receptions that's the most by a cowboy in his first 40 games so CD is yeah he's on his way and he's playing well now now all all of that not CD is my guy you know what I mean we got him in the 88 you know what I mean he's in the 88 club and everything but we are throwing the ball more now and that's also lens hands too yeah O'Dell can

be in that O'Dell can be there you're throwing the ball all right you were passing the ball so many times way more than we were when we were playing I play you got 25 passes a game yeah we got 25 passes I remember being at the Pro Bowl with Tim Brown and Tim Brown said Michael man you know he's from Dallas you know he's a man and my contract up I'm thinking about coming home man and playing I'm like no no no no we don't need that we only got 25 passes I gotta get my eight nine I gotta catch my eight and nine they gonna catch him about four or five and you know there just wasn't enough to go around now you can have two number ones on the football team because they're throwing the ball so much it's the passing game now that wins it so yeah O'Dell

beckon would light up Dallas O'Dell has to be you gotta understand O'Dell has to be in a place where the lights are bright for him to be his best you can't stick them in Cleveland yeah you can't steal it it kills his it kills his light it's like a flower he needs to be in the sun yeah he needs to be in the sun you can't stick them in clean put them in LA put them in New York put them in Dallas where that light is bright that's where you go to one-handed catch yeah watch a beautiful flower so you think you think it's a possibility about Dallas I yeah well O'Dell I think it's more of a possibility now because you know of course he he liked what he won last year with the Rams but the Rams are looking so bad right now even O'Dell couldn't fix that but O'Dell to the

Cowboys can tilt the balance mm-hmm towards the Cowboys and and O'Dell can come in and be a savior because he wants to be a savior too that's how he gets his money too he's a savior yeah he can come and help save the Cowboys so we have this conversation all the time on the podcast PFT is a Washington football fan I'm a Bears fan we always talk about the quarterbacks and like do you have the guy because having the guys that's everything right right you know Troy Apin was the guy is Dak the guy are you yes do you have any reservation about it no no no no no no and and Dak is that that's what this is such a unique situation that's why I try to even talk about when we're leading over into the Zeke situation very rarely do you have it in an NFL where your

quarterback really is the heart and soul of your football team that's what Tom Brady has been for his football teams so you get leadership we we we ordained we ordained quarterbacks as leaders but they're not always great leaders they're not more than likely they're not great leaders yeah more than likely and it helps a lot when he is a natural leader a natural leader and that's what Dak is and Dak and Zeke they're so tied together that's why I keep saying guys you can't mess up the structure of this team you can't mess up the order of this team guys come in that locker room they look at Zeke they look at that to check am I giving out enough am I doing right am I doing what I need to do so yes you got to keep that order in place okay I like I mean I like

that answer because we've had Dak on a couple times we don't know him personally and I think he's always and whenever he's healthy he he looks incredible yeah it's just staying healthy is obviously the part and and it's only the last few years even those kind of things staying healthy in the issue because he's been hurt the last few years but before that he stayed healthy he had never gotten hurt so I know what he's going through when you're dealing with ups and downs the peaks and valleys are being hurt on the football field and you can't play your team looking at you it's the worst thing in the world because you feel like you're letting everybody down you know what I mean you feel I had a broken neck and I was trying to get back on the football

field just felt like I was letting my boys down you know it's just the worst feeling in the world so so yeah no doubt this thing goes through Dak yeah like you said with your broken neck you had a you had a significant injury in Philadelphia at one point in your career and we've been talking a lot about the Eagles there's been a lot of discussion about about Philadelphia being a good sports town recently you have a very intimate relationship with the city of Philadelphia because they they did boo you when you got hurt there rightfully so rightfully so rightfully so okay why's that so our guy max right here he's a filly guy he was at that game and he booed you max you boo man he was a little kid he was five years old uh yeah that was probably me

all the nasty things you're the one I heard yeah yeah that was uh it was crazy you know what that night uh Jeffrey Lurie of course the owner came to my room my hotel my my hospital room and and he's he was you know he was he was vexed he was vexed his spirit lips were moving you know he was crying he was he said man I'm so sorry Michael I'm so sorry that that you had you had to deal with that now and I wanted to free him you know what I mean I just saw his spirit so vexed I really wanted to free him but I really believed that I said man Mr. Lurie we're good I said them people they were not cheering that I was hurt they would just say get his black ass out of here he's been killing us for years and I understand they are right that's true they don't boo nobody's right

they were right man and it's not like when I was winning I was polite about it I put my arms up a head first down and all in your face so yeah you know it was yeah it was cool and I so funny now I go back to Philly and even when I'm doing the game they when I get ready to talk Dallas suck they won't even let me talk you can't even hear what I'm saying on tv and that's and Dallas ain't even playing yeah it's Green Bay and Philly playing Green Bay and Philly was playing and and I was like Dallas is not even here what is all this right here and I turned to one guy and I said man you playing Philly where you yelling at four he said listen Michael I don't like Philly and Philly don't like us but the one thing we both didn't agree on we both hate the Dallas

Cowboys more Dallas suck that's it okay I get it I love it I love it uh all right so the other big story out of the NFC East this year the Giants you kind of called it I want I want to hear your take about uh so in the preseason they had a big fight and you were on the record you're like I'm I like that they're fighting right so explain that for people who you know didn't play in the NFL because a lot of times we'll see the fights and be like what's going on Aaron Donald you know right his fight but what I wanted people to point to and they were trying to actually like what kind of control they're having a fighting on the first what do you you mean tell me these dudes are competing on the first day that they get into a fight that means the mind you you're

that's great that's great you want the mindset just like that every time we step on this field we come to do something and I want to compete every time and we're talking about the first day in this this this this this spotlight league now well the first few days you go to camp you got to walk through you can't even go more than five miles an hour there'll be a violation of some cba agreement when jimmy johnson put us through three workouts I mean three full padded workouts I mean really hit it and now it's just so so to get that kind of competition on day one says something is working yeah and nobody else called that nobody else you had it you had it else called it I was the first one to say that Philly is headed towards dynasty that that was

dynasty now we're talking dynasty yeah that's what I said that this summer and Philly before the season didn't even start I said oh my god if they had the right hand on the steering wheel and the right hand on the center if these hands work out they can be doing something for quite a while and and they are working out what is it about Philly what are they doing right that that makes you such a believer like it's one thing to say I think the Eagles are gonna win the Super Bowl you jumped right into they're gonna have a dynasty yeah but but there are a couple things you look at a couple things you look at because the spirit of a team is going to permeate the locker room there's going to be some hard moments in the midst of a game hard moments tough

moments do we have something that brings us together and Philly has that you get you get Jalen Hertz you go get the Vonte Smith you go go get you go with AJ Brown all of these guys can have a little chip on their shoulders that my phone yeah yeah you gotta get into your Louis Vuitton bag same yes who's face timing I'm on here I can't talk right now don't tell me who was it yeah you don't even know okay you didn't know I think I want to know I think you still got that dog in there of course we all do yeah we all do we all do I'm gonna get the Philly and I'll tell you about the dog and all of them we'll be finished with the Philly so Philly has these guys very talented guys Jalen Hertz and out the brown already been friends these guys Jalen Hertz the Vonte Smith

J AJ Brown they can all say nobody gave us a chance see there's the connector there's the connector AJ Brown oh Tennessee wanted to get rid of me uh uh oh this person really wants to get in touch with you that's my doorbell oh oh he's pulling on a different phone I gotta watch people to see who's trying to come and get my money you know I'm saying let me try and you know I answer the phone are you making my are you making me money or trying to take my money make it I can say hello I'm taking please hang up that's how I answer I how I answer the phone but yeah I like Philly because they they have something that connects them we see the talent but do you have that one thing that connects you I always say to people football teams and organizations never

win championships it's gotta be a football family because it's going to come down to the peaks in the valleys of the season and if you're going a valley and you can come closer like family then you can come out that valley better and and these guys have history together they have this thing that nobody has given us a chance and then you you you put that together with talent yeah yeah you got something let me tell you about the dog in us yeah yeah all of us have at least two of us in each of us some even have more whoa some even have more all of us have at least two of us in each of us the great man the great man in this world tries to manage the kids so he doesn't mess up the king we both got a kid and king in us you want to manage that little kid so he

doesn't mess up the king because the kid you want to do a lot of crazy things you know but the king be like do you can't do that calm down calm down you know yeah you can't do it so I think that that that that's yeah that that's that's what I tell all great men you gotta make sure because this is real the Bible already says we all fall short of the glory so all of y'all they say I'm perfect no you're not perfect you got some issues you just ain't told nobody that's your kid we all got our kid we all got our issues there's no one in this room that has given up everything it's holding anybody everything you got something you ain't telling nobody because you don't want to let that damn kid out yeah I like it I like never trust a man that doesn't have any vices whatsoever

absolutely because they are they're keeping a big one from you yeah right right right right you did well yeah yeah I'm seeing yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah let me know some of yours but that's fine we all got some yeah yeah we all got some it's actually better when people know your vice because it's like you know it right right right and that's why it's so funny because you know what the problem they were having when uh when Jim mercy came out on dance night yeah that's why they said yeah are they send Jim mercy because what can you say about Jim mercy we all know it we all know it's a good freedom we already out you know what I mean so I have a freedom of that I just think I think the Bible says confess one ye to another pray one ye for the other in this we

shall find healing so so so confessing your journey what he means by that is when we when we talk we'll find out we're going through the same things but nobody ever talks so you go through the issues isolated because you're not talking with anybody because the devil has told you to shut down and don't say anything now you're going crazy dealing with it by yourself if you open up a talk to a few dudes they said man I'm dealing with the same thing or you can meet people or find people in different spectrums at different spectrums of the problem you know what I mean and they can tell you how they came out of it how they did things that's why it's important to talk and and I'm like her say y'all know about my junk yeah I'm free hurt people hurt people too that's the one that's my

favorite Bible that that is because that's that actually is the truth where people will come at you and you're like what's going on right right right you're you're not doing this because right it's gonna be me there's something going on with yourself something else going on you're pushing off to someone else and trying to discover and discern that is a whole another world yeah yeah so you you said a point about the Eagles having a family connecting what they're connected with and yeah right what was your cowboy's team what was that connection was the white house it was well no no no no no our connection was losing them damn games early and getting our kick getting our heads kicked in now the reason we were able to be successful and and and to this day to this day

I got a text maybe the other day last Monday from not the day last Monday from from Troy right after Monday night football I said man I'm getting ready I'm playing get back man I just want to tell you guys I love you you know me and in it you just me and that right there yeah you know because we came in I went three and 13 and Troy one and 15 we lost early we had 10 we should have all these team meetings and talk about things going to change and they never did we went out there and lost some more but but when we did turn it around we never had a problem to this day we've never had that's awesome that's great we're we're we've never had an issue to this day and all at every time we talk or text each other we ended with I love you man and it's just

a beautiful thing and and Jalen Hurst brings this he brings this what a hell of a great leader yeah and I'm going to tell you something you know you guys know enough about rubber banding when you go from one when you go from all the way one side to the other it's like it's glorious imagine having Carson Wentz who was aloof yeah and and everybody said it wasn't a great leader they even wanted Nick and uh Nick foals over him now you go from Carson Wentz who's aloof and and not a great leader to this dude to this dude Jalen Hurst who at the end of every meeting at and in every game he stands and they talk to his team at the end of that speech he always says family I love you guys and they go crazy yeah they go crazy you know what I'm saying I said turn it turn man somebody get that joker

say it something man I messed it up the first time but I thought it was a great he said I tell all my guys man we cannot be the thumb the mom in the room we got to be the thermostat ooh dude a thermometer just feels the temperature yeah a thermostat stats that's a smile I like that's powerful yeah that's great stuff man that is great I was still there I just can't you know and I mean Jalen Hurst we saw it at Alabama the way he dealt with the tour situation and he was ready to come back in when Tua went out in the SCC championship game like that tells you everything you need to know about him right over to Oklahoma yeah and when the starting job and everything there's something different about this dude and we only talk about the physical most of the time

when it comes to football ah how fast he runs how he jumps how far he throws but the reality is what kind of leader are you can you get men following you does the physical though like when Jalen Hurst is squatting like 700 pounds that also has to the team has to be like well this guy's fucking insane well what it does is it say hey all of those little fourth and ones where he just pack everybody and go what it gives you hope yeah and I'm gonna tell you something I was telling them this telling them this today on first take what does hope do hope will dictate your effort hope will always dictate effort if if somebody gives you a lot of hope man you want to give out a whole lot of effort because you got hope man I can do this I can do this but if you

have a little bit of hope you're going to give less effort yeah hope would it's just it's human nature it's human nature hope will dictate effort and they know every time they get up in that fourth one we good Jalen Hurst squats 600 we go so so it gives them that hope which makes them put down more effort that's that's how everyone you know talks about Tom Brady and there's definitely that's part of the game that can't be measured in a stat sheet when you hear any of them talk about you know being down in a game and they look in the huddle and they're like well we have Tom Brady and right and that's the only reason that's why I can't count them out in the NFC south I know there's nothing in the south I can't either Atlanta Carolina what what what what is that you

know what I mean Atlanta Carolina I'm not taking Tom Brady out on Atlanta Carolina I'm not doing it you see what I mean that's what I say are the saints I'm not taking Tom Brady out for in the damn dough yeah are you joking I'm not doing it so I'm still saying hey man I I can't pick any of them teams in the south I'm still going with Tom Brady okay what about on the AFC side of things the Philadelphia Eagles obviously I think are them and the Cowboys they look to be the best teams in the in the NFC and the 49ers now that they got Kristen McCaffer they could put something together it's crazy the element that he brings to the wrong game we always you say like you could plug anybody into calcium hand system and you could you could squeeze 1100 yards out of

whoever back there but when you get this car in there it's like holy shit it did kind of do it's incredible and it's not just you know just it's not just one-cut runner that catch he made you you guys you guys know why running backs can't make plays like that think about all their lives they never had to track a ball that long running backs were on the swing passes so you got to track the ball from the quarterback to you it's 10 yards at the most 12 yards at the most the issue becomes and very few running backs can do it is when you send them up the field like they catch Kristen McAfrey made that was up the field catch that's a running back tracking the ball for 40 yards that's not what they do yeah that's not what they do they get handed the ball they don't have

to try that I can track that mug I don't matter what and put my body in position to catch it not many running backs can do it Kristen McAfrey can yes I guess out of the west the the Niners look like they could cause some people some problems in the playoffs and that defense is still getting better because they still got a lot of guys out yeah and they're coming back now on the AFC side are you it looks like bills and chiefs is what it's going to come down to probably right right and I'm gonna tell you sir that's another thing too man I and I've been on Patrick my homes because I said you know everybody said oh we're not calling them it's Tyreek Hill yet you'll miss them you'll miss them but Patrick my homes gives you that thing you need now now you

got a bunch of two and three receivers right two two and three not a real peer number one but Patrick my homes gives you so many opportunities so I can take the twos and the threes and win with them because I'm going to give them a second and third route within the first route you guys say Travis Kelsey is the number one receiver right yeah he's the number one target yeah he's the number one receiver the number one target as a tight end but boy he and he's a beast he's a great dude to me I love Travis that's my guy of all guys Travis Kelsey but but Patrick my homes when you give a receiver a second chance and then a third chance dude you and I mean he's just incredible with that football man he is absolutely incredible so yeah I got the chiefs

I got Buffalo you saw Buffalo look like last night but I'm telling you right now I got Miami in that whole oh okay Miami with tour is a different Miami Miami with tour two is five and oh this season and what has happened this season is great for tour I know everybody's been talking about the injuries and everything but but what I'm saying is when tour was out they lose when tools been in they win it's solidified in the locker room if anybody had any doubt yeah that's our guy yeah we need this guy so now back to the hope did take a dictating effort I know we got our guy I can give all I got in this yes I yeah no it's a good point like the the difference between watching the dolphins with and without him is like stark and you're like okay right you need him for that

right and as much as we and coming into the season nobody said tour has definitely made his mark that he's going to be the quarterback of the future I say now he's made his mark yeah the quarterback of the future so can I bring up not the best stuff uh when we're talking about the dolphins let's stay there the you is just in shambles what's going on when are we gonna when is the you gonna be back when is the monster returning I think we're coming back now I know everybody wanted it big win against Virginia and overtime by two right by two but it's going to take some time to get in coach we gotta get coach guys in you know we gotta get uh that's true it's an overhaul right right this is we gotta get Mario guys in and listen one of the things

cook talk talk talk to me about when he first got he said man we gotta do some heavy recruiting yeah truth is the cover bear the cover this bear we have to do some heavy recruiting and get some more guys in here some guys like that help us win games and I think they're doing that they're getting those guys in there so I want to give them a year or two and then get his guys in and let's see but but Chris balls are guys okay so you is is in a work in progress I'm not a Miami fan I'm I'm a fan of Danny Boy Kane he's a diehard Miami fan shout out Danny Boy Kane right we got to work the right way and do it the right way see see here's what I was worried about too that flash win those flash wins all and if they would have won that Texas A&M game which was a close game

I believe that would have catapulted them you know I mean they would have been back because it gives them that confidence now here here that even if they're back this year and it's not sustainable now we're on the roller coaster so I almost rather walk into it instead of woo we're back and then next year you know what I mean so so so yeah I think this slow process is going to work out for us what about when uh when your son decided to go to Miami you know what it's like being a football player at Miami you probably I'm gonna guess you probably had some wild times as a player there when you sent him off to school were you were you excited that he was going to go to Miami oh yeah hey you got it you got to watch out down there and what was that

situation listen man I ain't sell that I want man that dude 22 years old y'all stop playing y'all remember what y'all were like at 21-22 things were working very well and they were always working even when you ain't want them working you just try to sleep you're waking up when they're working so yeah you know Jake you know right right right so I'm expecting yeah he had a great time down there I know I heard you say yeah boy you must have really had a great time in Miami I had a great time every day do you yeah do you have a problem speaking of which like do you I mentioned the White House earlier do you ever just like uh catch yourself daydreaming being like man that was fun like that was fun then I got through it good yeah that was fun right still got a job everything's

working out damn that was fun that was some fun not even saying damn that was fun you know it brings up a great question because you wonder what would you do would you rather go through life not experiencing any of it and never getting in any trouble and having that straight life as good or that got a little trouble yeah but that shit was fun yeah that was fun yeah because I I just think about it like you you gotta if I were you I would just like every now like if like someone sees you you know uh in the ESPN office and like you're just daydreaming I'd be like I think he's probably just that was fun that was fun yeah we had to it was crazy man but you gotta look man I was so broke coming out of the ghetto I couldn't believe they gave me that kind of money right now I didn't

know what to do with it so yeah yeah and it was a progress process to getting to the White House you know we started in the hotels yeah that was pretty much of a rocket then we moved to an apartment and they were complaining you know what I mean so I was like wait a minute man why do you go to the hotel you're the night's hotel you're gonna spend three four five hundred dollars a night right I'm like man four five hundred dollars a night if I if I if I did this four five times a month you know I'm spending three thousand dollars somebody else doing this four five times a month so why don't I just take a thousand dollars from a few people we get us a big old man just you know what I mean I was trying to as I said to Jerry when he called me in the

office when it was breaking news and they found the White House hey right I remember Leon let call him Michael man I heard the reporter's got a hold of the White House you may I'm tell you make sure shut it down man I said Joker this ain't no damn movie this ain't no new jack shit I ain't closing nothing are you crazy I'm not closing up the White House I hung up the phone man a few weeks later man that they were breaking on the news I was in meetings and it was breaking it Jerry said oh Jerry called me and I said nah he said yeah I want to talk to you I said nah I don't get ready for the guys talk to you then he told me all the news were breaking about the White House he said Michael what the hell were you thinking he says you know as long as you tell me the truth I'm gonna back

it 100% just what were you thinking I said honestly boss I was trying to do the wrong thing the right way he just started laughing he said what can I say he said what can I say he's probably was pissy and get invite that's right yeah what he's like you gotta be honest with me he was like you should have been honest with me I should have got the invite I better not tell the one time he did say I better not tell the one time he did say that but Jerry's just a great dude he knows how to move around the issue like you know after all that stuff I was on probation so so now they took the White House I'm on probation I can't go to to the hotel because it's all all the news and business so they don't even want me in the hotel it might have helped too it might have helped

like even when I was going to the hotel if I just pulled up in another car I pulled up in all these you know Mercedes Bentley BMW and they all had playmaker right on like you think I should just got a rental or something well I'm pulling up with playmaker right across this car you know and that's how that's how because when we first got the White House it was all good everything's working well and we never parked the cars at you know at the place we always parked somewhere and everybody kind of shuttle over a bus so we'll have all these couches in the yard and we picked an older neighborhood an older neighborhood so you know we we just kind of sneak in but you know as as it gets older and older and later and later everybody's drinking nobody follows the rule right

so sooner or later we had 30 cars parked all up on the floor you know what I mean and and that's kind of how we got busted yeah I mean but it sounds like a great sometimes it's fun to do the wrong thing the right way yeah that's yeah yeah that's kind of how we operate even when I got called right when in the hotel when they come to the hotel and the guy went and got all the he went and got all all all the information all the data from all the other times I was in the hotel room they had everything I was like they got everything that's messed up that they were putting all this manpower into like like it was the wire like right Michael Irvin's parting again right like I guarantee they ain't winning a Super Bowl since I left right now if they if I was playing right now and they came

in that room they saw finish doing what you're doing to get back on the field and win us a Super Bowl so yeah you think that's probably that might be the problem like why don't the Dallas Cowboys players get their own White House they bring up the team that parties together win Super Bowls well and there's something to that the team the teams that do spend time together once you well you don't have to necessarily be partying like like we were but but but it does help when you have that kind of union and you usually get that when you're hanging out having fun they don't come you don't get that kind of union and commitment one to another when it was not in the midst of fun yes you were talking about about Jerry a second ago I'm curious to know what he was like back in the day and how

hands-on he was with the team like if you guys if you guys lost would Jerry come into the locker room and and talk to you or chew you out or do something different or would he just let that all up to the coach no no no Jerry Jerry gets to speak sometime Jerry'll come in and speak but Jerry's the most optimistic dude in the world man Jerry's the most optimistic he always sees he sees the positive and everything and and it's right away it's right away no matter what you know I was in a situation one time somebody had accused me or something and I wasn't even there and I said Jerry called me to his office then I supposed I said I said what he said yeah that's saying that I said I said boss listen this time that's not me that this time it wasn't me this

time it wasn't me right right right and he was like Michael just tell me I said boss listen to me this time it wasn't me I wasn't there I was dropping my door off somewhere else I did this and he instantly turned he's like great we could use this you know he saw the positive in it I'm being blasted everywhere he saw some positive great we can use this and you sure you weren't I said Jerry I promise I wasn't there and it turned out that I wasn't I had to end up suing the station and all the stuff one guy I got a couple million dollars from oh wow but nobody ever hears that in the yeah no they don't get the retraction um all right so uh playmaker this has been awesome we have one I have one last question because I know you're gonna do another interview uh without

about guys which should be fantastic last question row back question RHOBACK.com use code take for 20% off your first purchase q zips polos hoodies joggers everything at rowback.com promo code take I don't think I asked you this the last time you're on but our colleague who we've gotten to know very well Deon Sanders what what type of teammate was Deon what was what was Deon because he doesn't drink no so drink don't smoke don't do anything did he go to the white house no really so what was he like though is it as a teammate now Deon no Deon Deon never did any of that yeah that's how to say Deon don't like beautiful people when he was young yeah beautiful people like we are like beautiful people you know what I'm saying he definitely like beautiful people but

he was a little more dolo solo and his beautiful likes yeah you see what I'm saying yeah so so but no man I consider Deon one of my best friends man he'll text me the same thing man I love you man I told people whenever Deon goes wherever he goes he's going to make it better he's going to make it better you just no matter where he goes he's that good he's that directly he's that committed I used to tell him all the time because we we used to travel together where we were trying he used to when I first got in league got retired and I got in trouble lost the job I had on tv he was really trying to help me get back on tv he was with cbs so we were traveling meeting people like you know BET we're going to do a show

prime and mic mic and prime and we're so funny we were in the meeting with BET and they were loving it they wanted to buy it they were like what are we going to call it mic or prime or prime and mic and Deon said I said mic and prime mic and prime right Deon said uh Deon said yeah yeah we call him mic and prime I said wait whoa he gave it up too easy wait a minute I want prime and mic why did he give it up so easy it must be something to it but we just had so much fun man and all the things we did man and Deon I love him he's the best he is really the best you know I recruited Deon I brought him over to Dallas you know Deon called me when he was in San Francisco man and he said man listen man you know Dallas is coming at my heart I said why must we keep killing each other

why can't we get playing together yeah why must we keep killing each other out here he was like man yeah I'm thinking about it and I told him then I said whatever you think San Fran is multiplied by ten you'll scratch the surface of what it's like playing for the Dallas that's a good sale you think you think he was he was sick of having to guard you so he's like I'll just join the Cowboys that way I don't have to guard Michael Irvin anymore well who got the best of who all right yeah Deon was such a phenomenal athlete man I put Deon on the map I ran out and up in college out and up I had this joker beat I had him beat man I saw him bite bite on the out I said oh this joker going was just a freshman he just started playing I said this joker just

bit on that out I was at a waiting on the ball come on come on come on Deon turned around after he ran he bit on the out turned back around caught me with the ball ran out ran the ball caught up with me pushed me down jumped up caught the football I'm laying on the ground looking back like look at this joker running with my football had the ball up hot knees hot knees all the way down man this is in college look at this joker now but you know I never lost to him in college I never lost to Florida State in college we always we always beat him but but Deon I've had some great battles with him man I call him the greatest Deon's one of the greatest athletes I've ever seen yeah bar none one of the greatest athletes just a physical specimen of physical

talent yeah is there anybody else on that list we might not be thinking of like your your best athletes you've ever been on a field with boy that's a that's a great question great question but I don't I haven't seen many people that I will put in the class as an athlete of Deon Sanders there's nothing Deon can't do I mean you know we would then dunk contest doing basketball with stuff we do dunk tackle he can't tackle yeah well he can he can he choose not yeah right on a business decision Deon I was like it's like people always ask me about blocking I'm a block I'm a block but but but I can't take that block into Jerry Jones saying give me more money I can only take that damn reception in there yeah so can we please get to throw me some passes around here

yeah we need a block I need a block I got an argument with somebody one time he said me I'm a better blocker I said they can't risk me blocking too much buddy I'm too valuable to catch it to be risking you know blocking all the time but but yeah man there's very few people like Deon Sanders yeah um all right well playmaker thank you so much for coming in uh this has been phenomenal you're welcome anytime we love having you on uh your stories are great so we appreciate it and uh hopefully we see you soon absolutely guys you guys you guys do see this right you you understand this is the only way we get to share and talk men won't open up won't talk the only way you really get me and talk if you come through sports yeah that's true because we can hold on our manhood

if we're talking to sports did you ever notice too that even our dating game our dating life reversed back to sports did you score yeah that's true did you get the second base everything we bring back to sports everything so you guys creating a locker room like you have here it is important yeah we could talk about a lot of things but it's the only way men get therapy to men as long as we come in the door of sports and we open up some conversations they have real conversations I don't mind sharing some of the things we went through because as the bible says I'm trying to confess yeah and then I'm going to pray and then hopefully we all get better because we all got some issues as I said we're all trying to mitigate the kid

so he doesn't kill our kid I love it I would say that therapists should just have a football in their office and you just have a catch right you're talking to him I think I think guys can open up more about this right yeah no no no doubt for real though that's how we are man so so that's why it's important that we have things like this so you guys keep doing what you're doing thank you man thank you very much Michael Irvin was brought to you by cross-country mortgage you have to live somewhere you might as well own it unless you're more interested in paying someone else's mortgage it's a good time to buy when you are ready to buy cross-country mortgage listens understands and communicates throughout the entire loan process they provide more loan options tailored to your

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the quarterback we welcome on los angeles chargers quarterback chase daniel uh legendary guy legendary nfl player we have one question from all of us i'm gonna let pft go first and then uh i'll do my one question i'm excited my one question is do you think that you can continue to play until you're 45 years old oh god no i don't want to i don't want to like i played 14 years right now right and it's been great and i say play right i've only started a handful of games got into some mop up duty but i don't know i just i i mean do i possibly think i can to 45 i don't know that's that's brady's job but for me i don't want to i want to do something else with my life eventually i mean it's a good gig don't get me wrong but you know i got three little kids i want

to watch them grow up i want to see them grow up i'm gonna spend time with them but um i don't think the league wants me around that long anyway people are already pissed off and mad at me so no i would disagree yeah i can't ask a follow up question but i'm just as a statement i would disagree i would push back strongly yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna disagree too and i my follow up question would be kind of similar to that do you would you say you know obviously tom brady seven super bowls paid manning all these records but would you argue and i would make this argument but i want to know what your take is that you actually have the greatest nfl career of all time with 178 past completions and 42 million dollars made only 178 that's it i think it might be 178 that's i can't i

can't fall oh yeah 178 178 uh and 42 million dollars made that's the greatest nfl career of all time care to comment is that a question that's a question that was a question yeah i listen look guys i'm i've had a hell of a career it's it's been known it's everyone wants to talk about the money the money's awesome my my health is awesome my brain is good i feel young spry i'm only 36 um but i wouldn't say it's the greatest career ever i mean you look at tom brady right like um the goat like i don't care what he's doing this year i don't care how quote unquote bad he's playing this year he's he's he's the best to ever do it and listen it just it's it's so funny to me because every time that i'll like get some camera time in a game or go into the game twitter just

goes nuts and there's always a meme there's always something that goes viral and it's probably you too doing it one of the times like hey this past attempts this much money um listen the money's been good but it doesn't it doesn't necessarily define who i am and look listen i don't i don't take it for granted because it's been a really good career i've honestly like i've played well but i think i have just a really good agent that's be honest i feel like my agent like should go down as a hall of fame yes i would agree with that yeah and it's it's been good and and you know we'll we'll we'll still go maybe a year or two more and then see what else goes into it i might you know join you guys um some more with some with some uh media stuff but uh you know i want to stay in the game

of football but i've i've been really blessed really lucky to to have a good agent not even a really good career just a good agent this isn't a this isn't a question this is just a follow-up real quick calculator math uh tom brady's made 40 000 per completion you've made 235 000 per completion his completions are way better than tom brady yeah that's so that wasn't a question that was just way way more expensive expensive completions yeah they're rare yeah they're rare it's like an nft each one is a beautiful little snowflake now and i'm sure if you did the touchdowns per for money made it be even more yes we should start an nft business it's literally just your highlights past completions because there's only so many with the highlight and let me go viral again

because listen i need to go by i need more followers only got like 130 000 i would i would hate it if if you did get into media after he retired he became a podcaster and got paid seven times as much as us and did one show a week 21 board apes per episode um yeah we yeah we got other guys in the room so that's our only yeah go ahead we're done with the questions hi chase billy here just wondering what's your favorite thing to contribute to a quarterback room oh good question favorite thing to contribute i've never been asked that question billy good job um i would say i'm actually just so you guys know like we're watching film we're trying to get ready for the falcons right now and i decided hey i need to take 10 minutes because that's what big cat said was gonna take

this so i'm up here um talking to you guys the favorite thing to contribute would probably be um do you guys like coffee at all you coffee huge coffee guy yeah okay have you heard of the juror coffee machine before a juror no you are a okay you need to check it out online it's a little expensive but it makes the best coffee that i've ever had in my entire life i brought it um when i was in 2017 i brought it to the attention of drew breeze he now has like three in his house because he's drew breeze yeah um and like one in every room uh brought it to michael trebrisky in chicago he has one in his house and one at the uh facility uh in in pittsburgh and i brought it to justin and easton here in la and now we have one in ours so it's it's uh it's good because we drink

caught like we we burn the midnight oil here a little bit we work 60 70 hours a week and we like coffee so that's uh that's probably mine that's a great answer that's my favorite answer yeah it's got like they're like two thousand dollars i'm looking online but that's everyone loves the guy that brings the really nice coffee machine well also it's not it's not two thousand dollars it's it's one one two hundredth of a completion it's a kneel down yeah yeah it's we can we can get that easy and it's all about the coffee beans too you got to get the right coffee beans you can't you can't go cheap on the coffee beans if you go expensive on the coffee maker okay yeah that's true that's true that's like the opposite of like buy it buy a shitty bike in a good lock

exactly yeah uh jake yeah hi chase jake mars part of my take podcast i want to know in how many seconds could you recite your nfl team career path oh my gosh let's do it watch on you warlins uh kc philly for a year back to new Orleans chicago detroit la 7.67 seconds nice again that's elite nice pretty good and i was 17 you've got that good brain you were right yeah uh max a lot of people don't realize that that i was with washington with jim zorn yeah jay gamble tog collins the legend tog collins for a while yeah tog collins great there's legend two three and oh as a as a washington football team yes legend all right max is our last question then your question so go ahead max oh memes do you have a question memes has one too means oh we

have yeah so this is kind of our trick on the on the one question yeah go ahead max uh i just really like to know who's one quarterback that you would love to back up good question one honestly um i'm a huge fan of josh allen yes like love is the meaner obviously everyone knows what he does on the field he's a baller he's probably playing at one of the highest levels that we've seen in a long time but i just think josh like i know case right so i know case keenam is back up now in case like says nothing but great things about him it just seems really fun it seems like they have a really good quarterback room yeah i love that i also love the notion that maybe there's there's an awesome like backup quarterback group chat out there that i

don't know about we i need to start it i started there there is not one because i know i would be in that one if there was one but i'm not in it so maybe i need to start it yeah you uh mat castle probably be in there chas batch right cat loves yeah i love chad hyenny chad hyenny's been around for a long time yep yep yep that's that more that more yet all right memes go ahead your question How much did the double-doink suck? Oh, memes, that was mean. That was mean, memes. I just, I really loved that team.

Yeah, same. Like, really, really did. Like, thought we were, like, going to go somewhere special. I think if we won, we were going to go to L.A., maybe. And we'd already beaten them. And we'd already beaten golf. Like, got four turnovers from them. That one was tough because I was just so proud of how Mitch, like,

fought through that game and then was able to lead us down on the two-minute drive. And when you have a 40-something yard fill, you think you're going to make it. And the first doink, you're like, oh, it's going in because it didn't go straight back. We're like, yes. And it hit the second and you're like, oh, damn.

And then you're like, oh, well, we really, it was just like, it was another experience. Like, it's just an outer-body experience. Like, there's no shot we lost to this team. Yeah. But, oh, yeah. Yeah, that sucked. Appreciate it.

Yeah, that sucked a lot. OK, Chase, your one question for us. OK, mostly for you, big cat. So, you know, when, when Mizzou was playing Georgia. Yep. Right. And you and I were on the hook, possibly, for a lot of money at the bar tab.

What was the most expensive you would go? Like, what is the most amount of money you would be willing to spend without your wife just absolutely cutting your balls off? So it was quite a night. If for anyone who doesn't remember, I, Chase, I just happened to see Chase's tweet in the morning. He was like, if Mizzou beats Georgia, drinks on me

for a couple hours at, what was the bar called? Harpose. Harpose. And I, we, we have a running joke on this show where whenever like charity or anything comes up that we're not actually going to do, we're like, oh, we would have doubled that. Like, we would have doubled it.

We would have matched. So I was like, yeah, I'll double it. That's fine. And then Mizzou goes on to almost beat Georgia. I did have a conversation with my wife before she went to sleep that night. And I was like, Hey, just the heads up. Got myself in a little situation here.

And she's like, how bad? And I was like, I could be like $20,000. And she's like, thank God for her. Cause she's like, well, it's only money. Like it's, you know, we'll be okay. But like I was, I, she was a little upset that I had just, just tweeted that out. And just because she was like, wait, Georgia and Mizzou,

what, like, what's the connection? And I was like, there is none. I'm a fucking idiot. And so she's, she's very, she knows how stupid I am. So it wasn't like, thankfully it wasn't surprising that I had got myself in a situation like that. Your wife is a lot probably better at that than my wife. Cause when my wife, my wife's like not on Twitter.

She's on Instagram, but she has a Twitter. She follows. She thinks I tweet dumb stuff. She lets me know about it all the time. And when she learned about that, I get a phone call. Usually it's just a text. When I get a phone call from my wife, usually something's happened to my kid.

I'm in trouble. Right. And so she's like, you understand how much money that is going to be. You are an idiot. Stop tweeting dumb stuff. And I'm like, God, no. Yeah.

I think, I think the different, the reason I get more of a pass is she is married to someone who gambles a lot. So the bets happened constantly in my household. So it's, it's, it's a kind of an ebb and flow constantly of like, Hey, okay. Yeah. $20,000 for fucking Mizzou. I was like, it's, it's getting a lot of traction.

Like it's people are really interested in this. So I, I, when I tweeted that, right? Like I was just thinking like, ah, and then it just went by like everybody. I got like my phone blowing up. Mizzou's winning. And I'm just like in Houston in my hotel room, like you and I are texting the whole second half.

Like, how do you want to do this, man? Like we're going to be out money. Like, oh my God. Like my phone's blowing up. Like what are we going to do? It would have cost us a lot of money because I did, I, because they were so close. I did the 2000 open bar and it went in like 10 minutes.

So quick. So quick. It would have been way more than we thought. I didn't know how big the bar was either. People were sending me pictures or like, this is Harpo's bro. So wait, were you at the end, like in your heart of hearts, were you rooting for Mizzou or were you secretly hoping that they just get close?

Ask me that. You're asking me that. You're asking me that. You're asking me that. They got, were you like secret? I know that you're like, you're basically an alum of Mizzou. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel like you played there for a while at the end of the game. Were you like kind of hoping that they lost? Yeah. I mean, it's a good question. If somebody else wanted to chime in. Anyone wants to chime in. Yeah. I mean, listen, I love, I love Mizzou.

Like I am like their biggest fan, but to be completely honest with you, I was hoping that they'd get really close and lose at the end because I was not ready to spend that money. I mean, listen, I would have done it. Like easily, like no questions asked. And I would have matched. I would have matched. Yeah.

Yeah. And you would have helped. And John Anderson from ESPN was like bumping in. So it was like cutting third. But secretly I was like, I don't know. I don't think it closed. If we were at the game, I think it would have been a lot different because then we could have partied with everyone.

Yeah. At the bar, on top of the bar, like that would have been cool. Yeah. Paying for everyone's bar tab to have a great night when I'm sitting on my couch is it's not the best. That's not the best. Yeah. No, not at all.

All right. Well, Chase, thank you so much. We've got to have you on for a real interview sometime. Good luck this week against the Falcons. And yeah, we really appreciate you coming on. Yeah. Thanks guys for having me. All right.

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Hey. My boyfriend always says sorry while he's coming. Oh. No matter if the sex is good or not. I tell him to stop apologizing because it's such a turn off. But this has been going on for eight years. Whoa. Why do I get him to stop?

What's he apologizing for? Is it quick? It's got to be quick. I mean. It has to be quick. Roman Swipes use them now. This feels like a therapist question. This feels like a deep seeded something.

Why are you worried? It's just quick. Yeah. But she said even if it's good. What Billy looks like. It could be Canadian. It could be Canadian. It could be very, very like a nice person.

Sorry. Here comes the syrup. It's got a little bit of cum there. Yeah. Oh. Watch out. Watch out now. Yeah.

I'm going to say it's icing visible or Roman and better help. A combination. A combination. Use that combination for him. And maybe get a new mattress. Yeah. He's probably, yeah. Maybe he thinks it hurts you on your old mattress that you have.

You could also just reverse it and say sorry to him like instantly. Yeah. Don't apologize for coming. Yeah. Just you say sorry right away. Like sorry. I already came. You're so hot.

Listen. From an evolutionary point of view, it's beneficial to come really fast. That's what a lot of women don't realize. It's that that's how our ancestors were able to procreate more successfully. You get in. You get out. Boom. Done.

Wham, bam. Thank you, ma'am. We are just products of. Sorry. I'm so evolutionary. Thousands and thousands of years of men before us. Yeah. Listen, my, my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather.

Was Rick Petino. Got able to bust a nut to a cave painting in five seconds. That's, that's what you had to do. And a rock fell on him. Yeah. Hank, that's fucked up. Hey, what's up guys? Hey, hey, what's up?

I met my boyfriend a little over a year ago at a bar in Tuscaloosa. He's an awesome guy with the best personality, but the first thing I noticed about him was that he was totally packing in the front of his jeans. Whoa. After dating for a couple months, we actually slept together for the first time. And I was so excited to see this dick. He had been packing his jeans and suit pants for all of our dates. Plot twist.

I was completely caught off guard by how small it was. I didn't express to him my disappointment and let it go in the moment. I didn't want to hurt his feelings because he's incredibly nice and puts off major PFT vibes. Whoa. I wasn't having the small dick. However, I was totally confused about the huge bulges jeans two hours later. That very same night.

Okay, so I'm not finished. I'm not finished. No, I actually have a, I've got a recommendation for him. Well, can I finish that? Yeah. I still. Yeah, just apologize after you're done. I still chose to not voice anything in fear of hurting his feelings.

Well, long story short, we moved in together a month ago and my questions have now been answered the very first morning. I caught him stuffing a thermal crew sock in the front of his jeans as he got dressed for work. Turns out he does this every single morning. Is this a red flag? Yeah. This is a really is a great person.

I love being with him, but this seems like something deep rooted. This is definitely deep rooted. Should I address the situation? I've never heard of this. Yeah. This is actually the smallest dick of all time. Actually bizarre to. Well, I don't know if it's necessary.

Like you might have the smallest dick. Oh yeah. Just the fact that he's like stuffing a thermal sock. I've worn thermal socks before. That's it's obscene. He's made. He wants, he wants people to look at his dick. That's the issue.

I've never heard of this move because like if you have a small dick. Girls don't check out guys. Dicks like no, no, it's not the reverse guys. Check out other guys. Dicks. Yeah. Yeah. Really?

I was Hank. No. I was I thought you're saying guys. Check out girls. And then I said, yeah, before you finish. As a man who wears eyes are up here, Hank, I wear sweatpants probably 70% of the year. And I've I've learned that you have to be very cognizant. You can't wear like gray sweatpants because that makes everybody in the room uncomfortable.

No matter if you have a big bulge or a small bulge, whatever it is, the fact that he's encouraging people to look at his crotch, I think is a pretty big red flag. Yeah. Problems. Pretty big. Problems. It's also like, what's the best case scenario? Girls like, oh my God.

And like literally this happened. The girls like his dick is so big. I can't wait to see it. You're going to have to show it eventually. And then you just roll it in with a micro. Yeah. Micro. Big time.

He's got some body issues. No shame. Why is he why is he doing this even though he has a girlfriend right now? Also a good point. Yeah. He should his tube sock days should be over at this point. This small dick. This guy this guy must be the total minus this package, the total package.

Yeah. This girl to like move in with them and shit. Right. Yeah. That should have been the biggest red flag. And then like you would think she would tell her girlfriends, they'd be like, get the fuck out. Yeah.

Yeah. My suggestion was going to be if if he just has a small dick, just like where if you are my undies, it helps with the circulation. Yeah. It's always a good dick day. My husband bought way too much Halloween candy. And the deal was I'd hide it until Halloween pass and he could have the left of us. No trick or treaters came to our house.

And I'm thinking of throwing 90% of the candy out for his own good because he does not need that much candy. Will this jeopardize our marriage? Yes. Don't do it. At some point, every every girlfriend turns into a mom. I don't know when that happens. But the way that like your partner looks at you eventually becomes more like a mom.

And it sounds like you've entered this where it's like, you don't need all this candy. He does need all that candy. Yeah. You don't get to tell him what you're not his mom. You don't get to tell him that he's not allowed to eat. Like, oh, no, it's too. It's past your bedtime. That's too much sugar for you.

I went last last night Halloween. I was I was like genie sacks going down to the to the washer and dryer when my kids went to sleep. I was just raiding the bags. No, don't look at me. I'm trying. Johnny. Remember that scene?

Yeah. And then the cops showed up at his house and you tried to run away through the snow. Yeah. Were you taking like doubles? Just like, are we like, were you were you extincting like his Reese's? Well, there was also like, I mean, the son's three and a half. He has no concept. Like he we went trick-or-treating for like maybe 30 minutes and 10 minutes in.

He was like, dad, my my bag is so heavy from all this candy I looked in. There was like 10 pieces. So he won't know. You want to know a little secret? You just got to the store and buy a big bag of candy. Yeah. And just have that. It's enough candy.

Like we're adults right now. We can, if I wanted to, I could go buy a giant thing of Reese's Peanut Butter Cup and I could come back and I could eat it. Disagree. No, I could. Disagree solely because Halloween candy tastes better than every other candy. But it's still Halloween candy. But it's just no, I'm saying free Halloween candy in the variety.

There's nothing that, because you can, yeah. Billy's right. The variety bag. Like I went Reese's to Twizzlers to York to like, I just go back. They have the variety bag. It's not the same. They only sell that around Halloween. I've got a job.

I can afford, I can go to the store right now and I can buy myself York, three musketeers, Milky Way, Milky Way Dark Snickers. It's not free. And it's a Halloween candy. I can even get some Sour Patch Kids and eat it all by myself. It's not free Halloween candy. Side note, I guess we can just address this as kind of a funny text. I just got a text from a woman that works upstairs on the YouTube side and she said,

Hey, quick question. None of you PMT guys are part of SAG, right? Screen Actors Guild? That's a no. I just wanted to double check that. No. I'm not. But the way that they're asking makes me think that we should be to get more money.

It sounds like we could get. Yeah, something. Wait. I think we're going to be in a sizzle. Are they? Billy joins a union? They're union busting us right now. Yeah.

Always, like always sunny episode. Billy joins a union. I think it's pretty easy to join that. Well, you're going to have to now. Okay. Yeah. We have to act. Yeah.

In what? I can act. What do you think I'm doing right now? It's all a bit. Billy. Nice. All right. Last one.

There's. Yeah. We'll do last one. Some of the, one of the questions was just what, what are your thoughts on Andrew Tate memes is just laughing, laughing, laughing it up over there. We can, maybe we'll do, Billy can do a side chat with that. He's like the guy. Spaces.

You don't do a Twitter spaces. He's the guy with the thermal stock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's Billy's personal hero. No, he's not. It's a top G.

I was acting. I'd say yes. You're confused. Yeah. I'm going to have to dive, I'm going to have to dive into this. He makes a lot of interesting points. Hey dad, cat, father of two, not a drug guy, PFT, angry, Hank, that's an act. And Billy, thank you for your service.

Please help me name my boyfriend's drunk alter ego. Oh. We've been dating for four years, so obviously not a deal breaker at this point. He's not normally an emotional guy, but every time he blacks out, it is full on sad boy hours. Oh. Not sure what the cause is, but as the drinks flow, so do the tears. This is a well-known thing among our friends, so I think there's no way to stop it and

we need to have a name for this drink and sad alter ego. Also shout out to Batgirl. Needed more girl energy on the pot. What about just John Fidelberg? I got a buddy like this and we call him Eeyore. Oh. How are you sad? I have one of my best friends the whole world.

We gave him the nickname in college and I still am very good friends with him, Biff, and he got drunk because he just had an alter ego of a tough guy and it's great because he's Biff. About crying Gosling. I don't know if he's a dark and stormy guy. Yeah. Why don't you just call him a bitch and then he'll stop. No, I'll just keep crying.

Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah. You really think I'm a bitch? Yeah. He gets tear goggles? Hmm. Yeah. I like Eeyore.

Eeyore's pretty good. Eeyore's pretty good. I feel bad for Eeyore. Yeah. Well, he just always loses tail, man. He just needs a friend. He needs better help. He has friends.

He just can't get out. He can't get out of his stick house. I don't think he has friends. I think he's got. He's got. Everybody goes to see Eeyore. He's got fake friends that talk about him behind his back. No, everyone goes to see Eeyore and he just won't get out of his stick house.

This is actually genius though by this girl because if you want you name it, he'll stop doing it all the time. Be like, is Eeyore coming out? Are you bringing Eeyore out? And he'd be like, no, I'm not Eeyore. Stop calling me Eeyore. I actually think that a guy that cries all the time when he's drunk is actually more emotionally healthy than the tube sock guy.

Yeah. Oh, well, tube sock guy is a serial killer. Yeah. Watch out for that guy. He is a dumber in waiting. Okay. Numbers. You're off sides.

Yeah. So 69. Actually, would you like 69? No, you can have a big cat. All right. I'll take 60. I'll take 60. I'll take 60.

He's important. 17. I'm going to say, man. 18. Memes. Three. Yeah. That was a fair penalty.

Yeah, it was. You jumped off sides an hour and a half early. I know. I'm going to stress something out. I just love that Billy just went home like on Sunday night and was like, I got to come up with a plan to get 69. They're on to me. He was going to start setting alarms.

He was going to start paying attention to the show, but like you knew that that segment was wrapping up. So any time the segment's wrapping up, you're like 69. Yeah. That's acting. 74. 74. Hey, what was your number?

17. I have not ever gotten this. You've never gotten this? I'm about to get it right the fuck out. Oh, you are? Yeah. For those at home. You want to act tough about it?

Yeah. There's no chance you're getting it right now. For those at home, 74 was at the bottom and I'm testing if that is where it hits. 0% chance Hank gets it right. That's right. And 18. Bang! Bang!

Bang! Number four. Yeah. Number four. Yeah, Jake. Jake. Jake. Jake.

Jake. Wow. Jake is a dynasty. One off. One off. Oh, no. One off and Jake just got it. Congratulations.

What did you just say? That was my fourth time. Fourth time? Yeah. Dynasty for sure. 15's eighth time but I didn't pick them up. No. Love you guys.

That's it. Awesome. Great number right in Kyrie's face, huh? Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say something. Sweet.

So we had how many, how many, so you've had it four times, Billy? Five? Five. I've had it twice. Twice. Twice. Max. I'm Jake.

Wow. That's a lot. We're putting on a fucking show in Hank. How many? Oh, you are. I have to go back and track it. Oh, you are. Jake is hot on my tail.

He is. I need to start getting on the 69 back. Yeah. I don't know. It's going to be tough. I'm still not convinced you got it five times. Yeah. Yeah.

I hit four times. It seems like fuzzy math. I got 21 once when I came back from Vegas. It seems like fuzzy math. Mm-hmm. We'll have to look at the books. Oh, I know. Wait.

When we do, when we do look at the books and just do an entire audit, can you find out if Hank's ever gotten it? Yeah. Okay. Let me know. Please let me know. Text me personally if he has ever gotten it. I'm actually starting to get worried now, big cat, because Hank's got to get it at some

point. No, he doesn't. And we don't have. Wait, no. But we don't have enough time for us to get it. No. For him to get it twice. No.

PFT. He doesn't have to get it because he's never gotten it. He's never going to get it. Love you guys. Love you guys. Humans are the only apes without a penis bone because our reproduction time is shorter, but we have a loosing tactic. Let's give it to each other.

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