Pardon My Take - Michigan State HC Tom Izzo, NFL Free Agency, Myles Garrett Re-Signs And Geno Smith Traded, Who's Back And Monday Reading

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

NFL Free Agency has finally arrived and a ton of moves happened over the weekend (00:00:00-00:10:31). Myles Garrett decided to stick in Cleveland, possibly because they offered him an insane amount of... money (00:00:00-00:10:31). Geno Smith traded to the Raiders, Josh Allen's new contract, Davante Adams to the Rams, and the Sam Darnold domino is ready to fall (00:10:31-00:30:26). We talk College Hoops and NBA plus Stephen A Smith vs Lebron (00:30:26-00:44:03). Who's back of the week including baseball injuries and Skip and Stephen A (00:44:03-00:53:58). Michigan State Head Coach Tom Izzo joins the show to talk about winning the Big Ten Title, the dust up with Michigan on Sunday, Positive Vibes, daring teams to zone him, and losing his voice (00:53:58-01:22:56). We finish with a Monday Reading (01:22:56-01:33:02).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have our good friend. I can say good friend now because he's been on twice. Coach Tom Izzo, Michigan State. Huge win on Sunday. Little controversy. Also won the Big Ten title outright, regular season. So awesome talking to him. It is March, it is Tom Izzo. We also are gonna talk some NFL free agency, which is about to open, but we had some huge moves
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Starting point is 00:02:52 We got started the legal tampering window. We got, we got NFL news. We've got conference championship week. We've got NBA drama, both on and off the court. We have sports, a lot of sports. Let's start with NFL because it is, uh, the official league, the, the, the tampering window has opened, even though there's been a ton of deals. Uh, well it's interesting because there's a lot of, a lot of guys that are deciding not to test the free agent market and resigning
Starting point is 00:03:20 with their teams that they were going to be leaving, but they're doing that before they were legally allowed to be tampered with. Correct. Which is very interesting just to point out. That is. So yeah, let's start with the NFL. The biggest story I would say is Miles Garrett is staying put. So Miles Garrett, who said, who mockingly said, cause his GM, Andrew Berry was quoted saying the goal was never to, or sorry, he said that we envisioned him going from Cleveland to Canton when his career is
Starting point is 00:03:51 over talking about miles Garrett wanting to keep him as a Brown. And then miles Garrett, a couple of days after that said, the goal was never to go from Cleveland to Canton. It has always been to compete for and win a super bowl. He wanted to go to a championship contender. And then there was a material change to the tune of $123 million guaranteed, a four year deal averaging $40 million a year. Everybody's got a price. I think they did. The Browns just show that they are committed to winning. Yeah. The Browns
Starting point is 00:04:20 football organization is one that is, they're putting their best foot forward, trying to deliver a championship. And Miles Garrett said, you know what? Now I believe you. Yeah, I think that we're actually going to do it. And step number one towards committing to a championship is to pay Miles Garrett a shitload of money. $123 million guaranteed. That is a lot of money. It is the largest contract for a non-quarterback. It just, listen, we always knew it was always about the price, but this is a good reminder. It's always about the price. It doesn't matter. Anyone could say anything. The money talks. And I think Pete Prisco always says that money over
Starting point is 00:04:57 everything does not matter. And the money talked here. I do. So he'd signed this contract on Sunday. here. I do so he'd signed this contract on Sunday. Max Crosby had the largest non quarterback deal that he signed earlier last week which was a hundred and three or sorry a hundred or ninety one point five million guaranteed three or hundred and six point five million. I think there should be a new rule that if you signed the biggest contract whether it be the biggest quarterback contract, the biggest non quarterback contract, you should get seven days to wear the crown. Miles Garrett should have had to wait seven days to take that crown away from that. You should have had seven days where he was like, yeah, I had the, I had the largest contract
Starting point is 00:05:40 non quarterback contract ever. And then miles Gary, it was too quick. It's like in the, uh, was that the AFC championship or was that in a regular season game with the Bill's kicker and the chief's kicker went back and forth breaking each other's records. Right. Longest field goal. Give it some breathing room. 15 minutes. Yeah. It would be nice. I mean, Max Crosby at one point was the highest non-quarterback. For about four days. For about four days. And then Miles Garrett took that from him and Miles Garrett is, uh, LeBron could learn a lot from Miles Garrett how to stay loyal to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Like he decided he wanted to check the market out there, maybe go to warmer climate, build a super team. And then he said, you know what? I'm not gonna break those kids' hearts in Cleveland because they mean something. I wanna be here for the city of Cleveland. The losers in all of this, I would say, are the Dallas Cowboys, the Cincinnati Bengals, or anyone who's trying
Starting point is 00:06:27 to trade for an edge rusher and has to pay them because the price has gone up. Yeah, Michael Parsons is now going to take that crown. Trey Henderson, Jamar Chase, all these guys, the price just keeps going up and up and up. And it does feel like more than ever, the better move is to just get the deal done earlier than later and because the price is just always when you have a guy like this and you can put Michael Parsons in that group and Trey Hendrickson and Jamar Chase, like I said, the price is always going to go up. The cap has gone up significantly. The price is going to keep going up. And so those those teams are looking around being like, like fuck We just screwed this because now we have to pay a lot more money
Starting point is 00:07:07 I did think that miles Garrett was going to try to either sit out or Force the trade I didn't think that he was gonna come back. I thought it was always gonna be the money I was I was surprised when they announced that he's staying this morning. Yeah, because I also Max probably in the same boat you guys had you had thoughts of of of miles Garrett wearing your team's uniform Max and I are both losers in this one, too Although you can make the argument that we're both winners in this one because part of the reason why we each wanted him was to Keep him away from the other team true. Yeah, I was no I had no problem with that news Yeah, so congrats on winning this deal. Yeah, but if you want to trade for Trey Hendrickson, you got to pay him a lot of money
Starting point is 00:07:42 Now you're gonna have to pay out to pay him a lot of money for sure But you won't have to give anything up in terms of the trade. So that's kind of nice. Yes, that's true And then John Chase also is gonna get yeah He's yes in T Higgins and all of them Josh Allen just broke Deshaun Watson's record for most guaranteed money 250 million Guaranteed the total I think was like 330 million on six years, but it's I think it's five years fully guaranteed 250 million guaranteed biggest guaranteed total given to an NFL player ever. Josh still has not paid us from his second contract that he got. So he owes us 10% of 250
Starting point is 00:08:21 million guaranteed interest $25 million guaranteed to part of my take. That's a lot of getting excited about Josh Allen. You can buy. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, it is a lot. But this is the bills did it right because the bills, Josh Allen, I still think per year, Dak Prescott is still getting paid more than Josh Allen, but Josh Allen, this was a correction to the fact that like, Hey, he was still under contract for what four years or something. It wasn't like they needed to give him a new contract. They probably move some money around to do the cap shit that everyone knows and understands. But they're like, let's get this done now. Money in hand.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And he didn't have to, he didn't, you didn't have to pay him more than Dak Prescott per year. And also thank you to the bills for doing that, just that we can keep saying like Dak Prescott actually is the highest paid player in the NFL. Cause that's funny to say. Right. And we also, we threw around the idea and this is a loose idea. We're not going to actually enact it, but if AWLs want to enact it and maybe tweeted them, we thought maybe we would throw out there that we're going to stop doing the podcast if Josh Allen doesn't pay us the 10% that he said he would pay us Yeah, because otherwise we're looking like schmucks here. Yeah, so if people want to tweet him and just be like, hey
Starting point is 00:09:32 You're the fate of pardon my take is in Josh Allen's hands, which are very big hands, by the way That'd be fine. Yeah, that's totally fine. I'm not gonna tell people what to do. I'm willing to say that we won't put out a podcast I'm not willing to not put out the podcast, but I'm willing to say that publicly that we will cease. So that those are big news. Then we had Gino Smith getting traded to the Raiders. Yeah. So Gino Smith gets traded to the Raiders for a third round pick, reunited with Pete Carroll, felt like the, the, I mean, we knew this from when they gave Gino Smith that new contract a couple of years ago. And it was basically, you know, this is the season where everyone,
Starting point is 00:10:11 we should put this PSA out there. Don't ever believe whatever the newsbreakers tweet in terms of years and money, because they're just getting that directly from the agent. About 50 minutes later, you'll find out what the actual deal is and Gino Smith, when he signed his new contract with the Seahawks and we found out afterwards that it was essentially like a one year deal, I think that they could cut him. Yeah. Every contract at the most is really two years. Yeah. So, uh, but so they were never all the way in on Gino. Gino's all the way in on Gino. Gino thinks he deserves a lot of money, which I mean, I think he's a pretty good quarterback. You can do a lot worse than Gino Smith, but now he's on the Raiders. Did you hear the rumor that the Raiders initially, actually knows, I think it was the Seahawks
Starting point is 00:10:55 initially wanted to trade Gino Smith and DK for Max Crosby, which that would have been crazy. That would be a wild trade. Trades like that never happened in the NFL. Yeah. There was also a tweet that someone had from Combine Week that was on a plane and he was like, I just watched Pete Carroll walk up to John Schneider. I bet you they're trying to talk about Gino Smith getting traded. And it was like two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Trying to spot, yeah. Do the thing where they saw like the Dallas Mavericks and the Lakers talking to coffee shop. Yeah. Be like, this is the origin. This is the origin. It all went down. I did Pete Carroll and Gino Smith. Are we qualifying that as like a reunion that everybody's wanted to see? I mean, it definitely was the Gino Smith's career was saved by Pete Carroll. Yeah, well, Pete Carroll was the head coach. Yeah. But it's not like it's Pete Carroll's playbook. No, but it was Pete Carroll calling the shots
Starting point is 00:11:50 and Geno was saved. Yeah. I mean, he was nothing and then. What I like about this though is just that the Raiders do have a plan. Yeah. Whereas last year it felt like they got into mid-summer, they're like, oh fuck, we don't really have.
Starting point is 00:12:04 We don't have a quarterback. We've got two backup quarterbacks. Yeah. Now they have one. Now the Seahawks, do the Seahawks have a play? Seahawks then trade DK Metcalf to the Steelers. Granted to you, PFT, you were talking about it on Friday. I just wanted to see it bad. DK and George Pickens together is going to be fantastic. What does the Seahawks play? Is the Seahawks plan to get Sam Darnold? Because is it crazy to say that I think I would maybe rather have Gino than Sam Darnold? Yeah, probably because Sam Darnold is probably going to cost more right now. I don't know. I don't know what Gino's new contract will be. Yeah, I don't know either, but I don't think it's, yeah, they're kind of the same kind of the same like Sam right now. Sam Darnold,
Starting point is 00:12:44 the way that he played last year makes me think I would rather have same door well for most of the year yeah I was gonna say until the end yeah whereas Gino I feel like Gino from like two years ago that would line up with Sam Donald from last year yes yes but it's the musical chairs then and then there was a rumor that Aaron Rodgers so Aaron Rodgers looks like the Giants but then there was a rumor that the Vikings could be interested in Aaron Rodgers which I think we all are rooting for well actually I'm not because I don't want to have to play Aaron Rodgers but it would be funny just for the far story arc yeah the Brett far but yeah the the musical chairs are very interesting right now with Gino going to the Raiders and now another Sam
Starting point is 00:13:23 Darnold because we thought the Seahawks weren't going to be a Sam Darnold destination. Now it feels like Seahawks, Steelers possibly still. I don't know where else would Sam Darnold go. I don't know, but if he, I don't know how the Steelers are going to manage the DK Metcalf and the George Pickens situation. I'm excited to see how they do it. That's why I wanted this to happen. It's the funniest possible combination of receivers that you could get I would almost just say run it back with with
Starting point is 00:13:50 Justin Fields and Russ Wilson and just give one of those guys their own quarterback deep balls, too I mean they are with DK and George Pickens there They're basically building the whole plane out of out of just crazy routes. Yeah out of just crow routes. Yeah, I'm crazy. Just fucking run. Just two freaks on the outside, just run as fast as you can down the field. You can't double both the freaks.
Starting point is 00:14:10 No. You can double one of them. I want it so bad. I want them to, I'm afraid they're gonna try to trade George Pickens. Also- They both wear number 14. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So I'm excited to see how they resolve that one. And then- That should just be a battle royale. Also Sam Darnold wears number 14. Oh, so we could just have maybe like college rules. Everyone wears 14. Also DK Metcalf, another reminder of which we you don't even remind people the Miles Garrett, it's always about the money. DK did say he wanted to go somewhere warm. Pittsburgh not known for its tropical
Starting point is 00:14:40 weather. Well, that's interesting. He brought that up because I looked it up. It is warmer than Seattle. Okay, On the average. So in terms of weather in Seattle, we got in the in football months, 67 degrees, 59 degrees, 51 degrees, 46 degrees. In Pittsburgh, it's 78 degrees, 65 degrees, 53 degrees, 43 degrees. Okay. So every football month besides December in the regular season, it's actually warmer in Pittsburgh. Okay, so he's gonna get warm So he is gonna get warm. What are you looking at me? Max? You gotta look Hank. I got nothing I ever I didn't mean to give a look all the all the big it feels like the I was reading I think Albert Brewer had an article he's he pulled the league and the quote was that this free agent class is trash
Starting point is 00:15:26 Trash because a lot of these guys miles Garrett, you know, I mean, I know he wasn't be a free agent but like a lot of these guys are Resigning like Ronnie Stanley signed with the Ravens Obviously, there's been a franchise tag on T Higgins. There's been a franchise tag on Who who is oh Trey Smith. Right. So there's that was what I heard. It was trash. I mean, what wide receivers out there. Devontae Adams now a Ram. He's a Ram. He wanted to go someplace warmer, too, I think. Yeah. No, I think he said he wanted to play on the West Coast.
Starting point is 00:15:58 That also might mean that Aaron Rodgers could be washed. It also was Devontae Adams. Wouldn't you think he would be like, oh, I'm going to wait to see where Rodgers could be washed. It also was Devontae Adams. Wouldn't you think he would be like, oh, I'm gonna wait to see where Rodgers goes. And he's like, no, I'd actually rather just go with Stafford. There's a good chance that Aaron Rodgers just wasn't around his phone this whole weekend.
Starting point is 00:16:14 That's a Devontae's like, hey, I'm trying to make my decision if we could speed this up. And Aaron was in a tree stump somewhere in Portland, Oregon. Yeah, that might be, yeah, they had a little gnome knock on the door and be like, hey, Devante is trying to reach you. He's like, no, it's fine. So wherever I go, Devante taken over Cooper cups. Am I crazy to think that he's going to be pretty good on the Rams? Yeah, he's going to be very good on the field. Like that's a great place for him to be. Yeah, no, that that that was a, that was a
Starting point is 00:16:40 huge signing for the Rams. The Chargers going get? The Chargers, Shane is very upset. The Chargers have a lot of cap space and they don't have anyone. I'm trying to think who else, what other big, oh, Tommy DeVito's resigned. Giants. Congrats to the Giants. Zach Bond with the Eagles, that was big, Max. Like that's the thing is a lot of these guys
Starting point is 00:16:59 are staying with their teams and getting paid because I think the problem is the cap goes up. The cap went up significantly. Everyone can afford to keep their guys. Yeah. Zach Ertz back to the commander. Zach Ertz. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones get deciding between Minnesota and Indianapolis and possibly Pittsburgh. Hmm. Are you just throwing Pittsburgh in? I just threw Pittsburgh. I feel like Pittsburgh, they might not know what's going to happen. All they know is that Mike Tomlin,
Starting point is 00:17:23 this is actually a little bit different from Mike's normal MO, which is to draft insane wide receivers. Yep This time he's bringing in a crazy guy from out until like he's outsourcing his craziness. Yes and DK again I don't think he's crazy. Yeah, he's crazy on the fees alive wire. Yeah. Yeah, he's live wire on the field He's not a crazy guy in the same way that George Pickens is crazy in the same way that Antonio Brown is crazy, but he gets like, he, he will get thrown out of a couple of games. Yeah. No, there'll be some, there was that out of your wide receiver one though, like, yeah, you know, he's a dog. There will be some significant, uh, there will be some funny moments where both George Pickens and DK Metcalf are
Starting point is 00:18:03 costing them 15 yards on the same drive. Well, if they have a bad quarterback, that's gonna be the problem. Yes. That's why they should get their own quarterbacks. They should. DK's like, Russie, he's my guy.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You don't talk to Russie. That's another one where we don't- And George Pickens is like, you don't talk to Jussie, that's my guy. We don't know, similar to Pete Carrageno-Smith, were Russie and DK or DK Metcalf. Were they tight? I'm going to go out on a limb and say they, they had their moments.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Okay. I think DK had enough good games with Rossi where he's like, okay, I can, I can get excited about it. You know what? The situation is fluid. I don't think they were tight. I don't think they're tight. I think Russell Wilson like not talk to the team.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Yeah. Yeah. I don't think anyone probably was tight with Russell Wilson, but the situation is fluid You don't know he might have been humbled when he had to take the a team friendly deal in Pittsburgh because the Broncos are still paying I'm like a billion dollars. Yeah, I don't yeah, I think Hanks right nobody. Nobody's really that close with Russell Wilson So I'd say probably he's happy, like he was happy when he was getting thrown the ball in Seattle. Yeah. He had some monster games with Russell. Yeah. Uh, all right. What, what other big moves are we waiting for? I mean, there's, I'm excited. There's going to be it, who, who's out there though, still because, oh, Aaron Jones got resigned in Minnesota. Uh, yeah, we're looking at a chief's resign. Nick Bolton. That was another big, uh,
Starting point is 00:19:28 free agent guy that people thought was going to get some, a lot of money. Patriots, Harold Landry. Um, that's a good signing. Yeah, there's, there's not w like what's, who's gonna be the biggest name that goes on Monday? Cause it will happen pretty quickly. Right? I know the bears are God when maybe get Khalil Mack back and Dalman Center which would be awesome God when I feel God was good probably go back probably I want I want the Bears to get Khalil Mack I would I would very much like that on a deal that makes
Starting point is 00:20:00 sense but the cap went up cap went up I this is why I'd be such a terry well there's a million reasons why I'd be a terrible GM. But if you give me more cap, I'm spending all of it you don't right away. Keep it. I'm also I'm also just assuming the cap will always go up. Like that. That's that that would be a very bad assumption on my part. But I would do that. All right, you got it. So Sam Donald's the biggest name. Just Josh sweat. A big name. then Milton Williams. So a couple of Eagles
Starting point is 00:20:30 and then you had drew Dalman. Oh, I think the bears hopefully will sign, which would be nice because then they'd have their interior of offensive line set. Uh, yeah, look, a lot of these guys have already resigned with their teams. I expect Godwin to go back. I feel like he'll be, he'll be in Tampa again next year. But if not, that that is the guy that the Chargers should get. Yeah. Tevin Jenkins is going to be good somewhere because he's gonna stay healthy. And I'm like, fuck, that's gonna happen. What are the what are the commanders gonna do now that they lost out on Miles Garrett? Trey Hendrickson? I think Trey Hendrickson. I think that's what we're looking at gonna be a spicy meatball. Very spicy meatball. Very spicy meatball. I'm excited. So I don't think you can announce, you can't announce the signings until Wednesday, correct? Wait, I thought Trey Hendrickson still had a year left. Is he not? I'm pretty sure you'd have to trade for him still. I thought he had, I thought he had, I thought he just wants new money. And they're not gonna pay him. Let's see, he is an un...
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah, he's got one more year. One year left, okay. So yeah, so they're gonna, they'd have to trade for him. Probably not the same price tag that you'd pay for Miles Garrett though, right? Because Miles had, I feel like he had more years left. He's gonna... They're probably gonna, they'll give him a new deal
Starting point is 00:21:44 no matter what. Oh yeah, he'll get a new deal wherever he goes, wherever he goes, but to trade form, you'd have to, it'd have to be a second at the minimum, right? Let's see the Cincinnati Bengals aren't eager to pay edge Russia Trey Hendrickson the commanders are positioned well to trade for the star. What is it saying? It's it's, it might be your first rounder, right right? Could be because it is you're picking at the bottom of the draft. Have you have you thought about? No, I haven't. So we're in Indy. It's funny because we're in Indy. And I was saying to somebody like, there's just not that much buzz around the draft this year. I feel like it's not as much juice as it normally is. And then this person was like, well, dude, when was the last time you picked in the 20s in the draft? I
Starting point is 00:22:23 was like, Oh, yeah, that's a great point. Like, if it's not not your team that's active in it, you're like, oh, not kind of kind of a dull draft season. Right, right, right. I'm excited though. I'm juiced. A lot of teams getting some new players. Oh yeah, you guys you guys released Jonathan Allen, right? find a spot to feel about that. So Jonathan Allen, I, I like Jonathan Allen a lot. He played on some really shitty teams and he played very well on some really shitty teams. And he had that famous quote last season where he was like, I'm fucking sick of this shit. I'm just sick of this shit. The shit sucks. Fuck this shit. And I was like, God damn it. He's right. He's right. And if he wants to get traded, like I wish him the best, but he just wasn't worth it to bring back next year.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And so I hope he finds a good place. I feel like we could have traded him somewhere for like not a lot of compensation. And we said, you know what? We're going to set you free. Yeah. Find your own spot. Yeah. You're a good player.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. Memes. Did I see a rumor that the Jets might think about doing Justin Fields? You did see that. They're very interested. Oh, and are you interested in? Yeah, it'd be good to have a mobile quarterback for once. Okay, that's You you always say you?
Starting point is 00:23:33 means Saying mo mobile mobile isn't saying you say it every time and I had I had to address and so you're saying thank you for addressing That it would just be interesting to see a quarterback run around a little bit So you're saying that- Thank you for addressing that. It would just be interesting to see a quarterback run around a little bit. Yeah, there were moments last year where you're just like, the yards are right in front of Aaron, just run. And he couldn't run because he's old as shit. So you put Justin Fields in that scenario, he gets those yards.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Yep. Memes. Let me ask you this. You produced this show called Pardon My Take. Yeah. this. You produced this show called Pardon My Take. You were probably one of the people, if not the person, who edited the majority of the roller coaster of my experience with Justin Fields. Do you not, does that not give you a sense of like, oh, this is bad? Young quarterback.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You had a front row seat you what you not only watch it in real time but then you would go to your computer and have to edit it and watch it back and then post it yeah but we're in Chicago got to watch a lot of Bears games and and that Atlanta Falcons game when the entire stadiums just cheering Justin Fields Justin Fields he was a stud memes he has those things where he is a stud That's I don't I want you to be honest with me. How many times have you said the words Justin Fields his ass? I Think it's probably a lot No, not that many. He was good at times when he would break out for one of those runs
Starting point is 00:25:01 You would just be like, oh my god I know but memes you are you are the biggest hater in the world and you especially hate our quarterbacks when they play poorly You're the first guy to be like that right ass. Yeah, right. He also didn't have an offensive line there It's wild the justifications you're making for him like that. Yeah, that's verbatim what big guy I'm telling you I'm telling you and you let me ask a different way max Hank Hank, you guys also producers of Pardon My Take Hank, more of a cohost. Shout out. Kaz. Uh, you guys saw it front row. Would you want Justin Fields on your team? God no. Me no memes. Maybe like what option does he have? I like Justin Fields as a guy, awesome guy, but he's, you can't be like this is our plan. But what would the plan?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Sam Darnold. But everyone's saying Sam Darnold. Not everyone yet. Aaron Rodgers. Daniel Jones. I think I would rather have Justin Fields and bring back Aaron Rodgers. It actually wouldn't be the worst idea if the Jets- Daniel Jones is fast.
Starting point is 00:26:03 No, hear me out means faster Yeah, what if the Jets signed Aaron Rodgers and it was kind of like, you know, you got divorced you moved out And then you started dating again. They call man I really like this person if you love something set it for ya. Yeah. What why not memes? But what if Justin Fields has that redemption arc like Sam Donald did with the Jets mmm, and then we go, but it's the Jets mmm Your team sucks to lag whoa whoa whoa? It's a fair point also could be a good rebuilding quarterback could be a bridge quarter
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah, like could be a good enough quarter quarterback to be bad next year to get it a good quarter I mean, this is this is where we start to look at the most impactful free agent being James Winston. Yes. Well his name out there he'd be awesome in Seattle. Yeah he would. He'd be awesome in Pittsburgh. He doesn't get enough in like in-person meetings. Do you think James throwing to DK and George Pickens that would be this is that. All right. So James Winston went to the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm going to make an executive decision right now and you guys have no choice. So it's follow along, but you can also tell me I'm crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:13 If Jamis Winston is quarterbacking for the Pittsburgh Steelers and DK Metcalf and George Pickens are on the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Pittsburgh Steelers are playing every game in the middle TV next year. Yeah. Like with sound every single game. I'm down. It Jamis Winston is the antidote to the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive struggles, whatever disease they have in Pittsburgh for the last what? Six years. Yeah. Seven years. You get Jamis in there with DK and George Pickens throwing go balls. It's a different team. God damn it. Vibes are different. Also hard knocks. Can we please get hard knocks in Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Do it. They made the playoffs Fuck yeah stupid hard knocks rules So who's eligible for hard knocks right now? It's teams that did not make the playoffs and don't have a first-year head coach Okay, so that would be the Dallas Cowboys. See how's your head coach Seahawks? Seahawks. Seahawks. The Giants. This is some good.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Giants will definitely not. Titans. Yeah, Titans would be eligible. Yep. Colts. Colts would be eligible. This is some good podcasts right now. Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I feel like they might do. Dolphins might do it. Yeah. Cardinals are up there. Yeah. 49ers. That'd be a fun like redemption arc. Bengals. Bengals would actually be if they, if they go into the year with all these guys not under contract and trade Henderson doesn't get traded and like, I feel like they would do the Bengals. Yeah. Right. I think the Dolphins too. Yeah. Guessing hard not I completely forgot that we miss football playoffs. Yes, we do.
Starting point is 00:28:59 We do very deeply. I told you guys the other day, it was a moment of weakness. But we were talking about, they were talking about the weather and like, you know, the calendar year. And I said that I just need What March Madness is one of my favorite times a year and then as soon as March Madness ends It's like it's almost football. Yeah, that's how my brain works is March Madness I'm like well summers in front of us and then it's football. Here's how it goes March Madness ends Then there's the Masters which means that it's getting warm Yeah, and then after the Masters you got the draft which is football season pretty much Why my entire point was that I love life in the calendar year from March 1st till the end of the Super Bowl Yeah, so it's pretty much from the end of the Super Bowl till March 1st. I'm like this fucking sucks February life sucks
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then you get through it and you're like we got everything in front of us We got summer in front of us and then football I say I think football season starts after the draft because then you got rookie mini camps, you got OTAs, you got some other stuff going on, you got piss tests. Yeah. Okay, we're gonna talk some other sports real quick, but before we do that, no bull, if you're going to work out,
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Starting point is 00:31:08 Should we talk about Stephen A. versus LeBron? Yeah. So on Thursday night, elite, Stephen A. Smith and LeBron had a little dood to do after the Lakers game. In the middle of the game. Oh, it was in the middle of the game. In the middle of the timeout.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Larry David sitting right there, which is very funny. It was literally just a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode. LeBron went up to Stephen A. Smith. He was caught on camera. Stephen A. Smith would never have talked about it publicly if it had not gone viral. It was just too viral. Stephen A. Smith would never talk about his interaction
Starting point is 00:31:41 with another player. He would never mention anything of the sort. But the fact that he basically was forced to talk about it. Yeah. Uh, by LeBron getting him his face and then why did LeBron go up to him? He went up to him because he had some, he had, he took some umbrage. Yeah. LeBron took umbrage with Stephen A Smith's remarks regarding Bronnie James. Yes. He went up to him as a father, not a basketball player. Stephen A Smith was like, you should have just made a contact with me in a private meeting. I actually have no problem with LeBron doing this just because I do actually think that like LeBron is, is LeBron James a better father than he is basketball
Starting point is 00:32:16 player? Yeah. I think didn't we say that on Friday? Yeah. The fact that he got Bronnie drafted. Yeah. No basketball player has ever done that before. But I do think he went up to him like Stephen A Smith played the role afterwards. He got in his very serious tone and was like, he came up to me as a father. But I think the issue LeBron had was when Stephen A Smith a couple of months ago was pleading with LeBron James as a father, stop this. When you say as a father, I think that's where it becomes a little bit more direct a direct shot and LeBron Like he grew up without a dad. He I think he takes being a father very seriously Obviously you have to talk about brawny and you can say like hey brawny shouldn't be in the NBA This is crazy
Starting point is 00:33:01 But saying LeBron James as a father, stop this, that probably pissed LeBron off. And I would understand LeBron being like, Hey, don't do that. It was Stevie Day Smith saying that like LeBron James is not being a good dad, essentially by getting, when I think he's actually being the best dad ever by getting his son an NBA contract that he shouldn't be getting. Correct. So like in a weird way, I do think the whole situation, uh, and I've maintained this. Bronte is the big loser in this. Bronte is not a loser, but he's the big loser in this. And the fact that, uh, he's been put in a situation where he's talked about in this way. And like Steven A Smith is going on first take and talking about the bronze father. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:33:39 This, this probably sucks for him. He probably wishes in a weird alternate world that he could be on an NBA roster that isn't with his dad on it and people talking about him as a player and not him as LeBron's side project. The only way for LeBron to win this interaction is if he uses it, he flexes the remainder of his muscle in the NBA and he says, fuck it, we're drafting Stephen A Smith. Yeah. I'm going to force Stephen A to get some minutes in the NBA and just watch them get swatted into oblivion. That's a great idea. How awesome would that be? If you want to get back at him, this is the best way to
Starting point is 00:34:13 do it. Yeah, but I, Hank, did you have a problem with LeBron doing it? No. And Brian's been playing good in the D league, but it's also LeBron like the everyone was That's LeBron's gonna come up to you and talk to you about that Everyone resurfaced a tweet of LeBron from last year, which is just Lightweight hilarious is funny, but he was like, yeah, I'm watching league pass and brawn He's better than a lot of these cats. It's lightweight hilarious. That was a bad tweet bad tweet But also as a father again, I get. But also as a father, again, I get it. Right. Like as a dad, he's like, my son's better than these guys. Like I, if LeBron had gone up to Stephen A Smith and said, do not talk about my son, I would 100% be on Stephen A Smith side being like,
Starting point is 00:34:56 that's ridiculous. Your son is in the NBA. He has to be talked about. Does he get talked about more than every other rookie by a long shot because he's LeBron James Jr. But I think the father part, like if, if Stephen Smith calls him out as a father, I think LeBron has every right to be like, dude, don't do that. I think it's kind of fair play for both sides. Yeah. I don't think he even has kids. Does he have kids? Oh yeah. Stephen a fuck. So you're getting that to dad. But he might have a kid. No, Stephen has his, his boys swim. Yeah. He's a confirmed sex average, but I think it's fine for Steven. He's been like, LeBron, you got your son drafted to be in your team. Probably
Starting point is 00:35:31 shouldn't be in the league. He's not that great. He's not really playing on easy. He's playing in the G-league. Still a great dad move, but also part of what goes with that. You should have at some point thought Stephen Smith is going to have some thoughts, right scrutiny is fair until you say you're stop this as a father That's where it's like. Hey, dude. What are you talking about? He's a pretty fucking good dad Yeah, I'm defending LeBron again. I think Stephen a Smith was like you're you're forcing me to talk about your son Yeah, not a good father move. I also don't think it was very funny timing
Starting point is 00:36:03 But I from what I've looked into it it was taped before, but it came out on Friday that skip and Stephen a are reunited. Correct. My who's back of the week. Yeah. And also skip is in, in a do to do with, uh, KD. Cause he said, skip said that Kevin Durant is, uh, looks like he's semi retired. Yeah. He said, well, then KD came back at him and said we're both washed Yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, we also had yokich have the first ever 30 2020 just insane insane. It's crazy It was overtime, but doesn't matter. He's so good. It looked so easy for him out there, too Everything was in slow motion
Starting point is 00:36:40 He was doing the crazy passes where only he knows where the ball is gonna go Yeah And he knows it like two passes in advance and he still doesn't look like he's really enjoying himself that much. And then after the game, did you see SVP got the exclusive interview with, with Joker? Okay. And SVP was like all of us. He was fucking pumped because we've never seen that before. And it was such a great game. And it was so fun to watch after the game. He's like, I know you don't really get amped up, Jokic, but is there a part of you that's like, this was really fun out there.
Starting point is 00:37:09 This is amazing. I can't believe I did that. And then Yocic, his response was, uh, you know, it's, I go out to try to play basketball. Like he did not give a fuck. It was like, I wish I had been with horse instead. He did not give a fuck that he just dropped 30, 20 and 20 face the league does not care. But that's what dropped 30, 20 and 20. Face of the league. Does not care.
Starting point is 00:37:25 But that's what makes me love Jokic so much. Yeah. And he, we have a real MVP debate going with him and SGA. It's people are, people are choosing sides and diminishing. We on this show would never diminish anyone in any kind of postseason award debate. That's crazy. But it'sseason award debate. That's crazy. But it's a good debate. It's having it we're having it. And it's it's a
Starting point is 00:37:48 classic voter fatigue verse, you know, that best team in the league. Okay, see, I think it's gonna have the debate is gonna be SGA I think I think so too. But I think voter fatigue. But if I had a vote, he go to Yocage. I would vote for Yocage too, probably every year until he retires. He's so fucking good. He's so goddamn good. And he basically just, he runs everything.
Starting point is 00:38:10 He runs the he's the point guard. He's the center. He's everything. Okay. College basketball. It's March. Do we have any thoughts from this weekend? I saw NC State fired their coach off of a final four appearance.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Everyone was like, how can you do this? Maybe because it was the flukiest final four. No, I mean, it was an incredible run. No, nothing to take away from NC State, but if Virginia had fouled up three in the ACC tournament, he would have been fired last year. It's still kind of weird. It's still kind of shocking that after a team goes on that run, they the coach Yeah, but like fans don't care. No fans. We we forget about that shit within a month. Yeah Very quick. Also, we had a cow drop some bars. I don't know if you saw I said everyone put us in a coffin
Starting point is 00:38:57 They forgot the nails. Mm-hmm. I like that one. I like that one a lot the Omaha St. Thomas game They're not scoring points. They just have started the second half and they're not scoring points. Sorry to yell about that. Would this be how many in a row? The 16. We had the craziest win ever on Saturday for the Kentucky, Missouri.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I was at a birthday party, climb zone. I had all the dads huddled around an iPad. They were, it trickled around climb zone that like the fifth The 14, you know man was in the building trying to go 15, you know And it was like a whole scene of people just being like oh shit. Is it gonna happen? How did the wives feel about it? My wife wasn't there so she didn't know so that was good listen Were there any wives huddled around in the no No, they're not a six year old birthday party.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Anyone can, any parent could back me up here. When you go to a birthday party, it's, it's, you just let your kid go. They just had the fucking time of their life. It was an arcade climb zone laser tag. They were having the best time ever. They didn't even know it. Like kids go to birthday parties and they're just like, see ya. Yeah. They fucking love it. Yeah. What percentage of kids birthday parties at a trampoline park in with everybody uninjured? A hundred percent health. I don't know about uninjured, but there's always tears. Yeah. We, we, we, we survive without tear, which it would have been my tears if that over didn't hit. Um, but we survived without tears. That's good. Yeah. Uh, and it's March.
Starting point is 00:40:23 We're at conference tournament week. Also the Auburn, Alabama game is awesome. Awesome. That was such a fun game to watch. Huge win for Alabama. Uh, Nate Oats was, was, was rallying up the crowd afterwards. A little bit. Yeah. Auburn fans were getting upset about that. I mean, Bruce Pearl does do some antics as well. It's fair on both sides. There was some litter that was thrown. Yeah, they were thrown. So I think university of Tennessee fans broke into the arena and they threw trash. Yes Yes, but it's it's the best March and I also the Badgers had the worst loss ever. I I've downgraded my expectations Yeah, no, thanks Hank. I've downgraded my expert. They'll be back. It's bad going a little run into the conference tournament They'll be back. Yeah, I had a moment during the Duke UNC game and I've talked about you know
Starting point is 00:41:09 Not caring as much about Duke over the years and obviously it started started with Kayla back in the day But they did the celebrities in the crowd during that game and it was Belichick first and then Drake May and I was like yeah Yeah You think they talk to each other? Definitely. You think so? Yeah. Bellich. I mean, spending time with Gruden, it's an insight into a true football guy's mind, which Belichick is as well. Like they're just talking X's nose. You know that he's just there like he could talk to any football player and just talk about their
Starting point is 00:41:43 film or whatever it may be You know Belichick's watching Drake may you know that? He doesn't take his personal feelings with the Patriots when he's talking to a player like they just they could just talk ball Yeah, and that goes for any football player with any coach ever without without Belichick Drake may would not be there True just track. That's good point. Did you feel like were you were you rubbing it in like any UNC fans faces? Do you get pleasure out of being a down here? No, no, no. No, no. You and season trouble. You don't season a lot of trouble. It was a good game. They fought hard. Yeah, they were there for a second. Douches really, really good. Okay. Anything else people were giving online? I saw there was a clip of a UNC fan crying in the
Starting point is 00:42:27 stands after and they caught her mouth saying at least they tried really hard. Yeah. So and people were giving her show which I don't. Oh, was that? I don't know. Max is finding something Max is pulling up a picture of a chicken a bikini. Wrong. I'm holding loading 4k Max wrong. I was trying to get addiction bad. I was wow I was trying to have the video that they were talking about Accidentally, I accidentally pulled up twitch instead of Twitter because it's X the everything app is all happening on X Action baddie addiction baddie and this was just the first picture that came up. It's an interesting picture on a boat Wow good job max now. I'm just not gonna find a video. Well, you got to put that into the show
Starting point is 00:43:10 You got to put addiction baddie into the show for the for the for the viewers She is on a boat isn't she please subscribe to the YouTube. Yeah Well, I will add addiction baddie to the shout out everyone who punched a ticket to the dance Drake Big win they deserved it to be in anyway ticket to the dance. Drake, big win. They deserved it to be in anyway. Uh, uh, high point. Yep. I think Lipscomb got in. This is the best time of year. It's going to be, it's conference tournament week. So we'll have someone on to talk some conference tourney week. Maybe our friend Stanford Steve. Um, but yeah, I love this. I love these two weeks.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Sunbelt finals or semi finals on right now. Jamie, it looks like they're probably going to lose to Troy. A lot of time left, a lot of time left. Don't feel, don't feel great about the spot. I'm in right now Same remember last year though. Yeah, that was fun. So fun. Yeah alright So bad, I need points you haven't you have you been betting or fading nothing nothing Do you believe him max? We believe him. He's I've heard from I Jerry was
Starting point is 00:44:08 Jersey Jerry thought he was breaking news to me. He was like I was playing Call of Duty with Hank the other night and he was like PJ to can oh it was to PJ to Kay He's like I can't wait to feed big cat and in conference tournament in the tournament And he thought he was like telling me I was like dude He's literally said it's my face seven times and it hurts every time because I know he's probably right and he's gonna have like the best tournament ever but the so so it goes so it goes maybe not I mean that that win Saturday was yeah God God touch something something else going on my
Starting point is 00:44:41 side God was on my side we'll see we'll see how this game is dead is I'm dead All right. Let's do who's back the week Who's back the week is brought to you by truly truly unruly is the first high ABV hard seltzer that actually tastes good Truly unruly is a hard seltzer that breaks all the rules drinks light parties hard with 8% ABV It hits hard but still tastes amazing It's the official hard seltzer part of my take find truly un Unruly at a store near you or visit trulyhardseltzer.com. It was 60 degrees in Chicago today. We had the clocks change.
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Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah, my first one was shorts. Another treacherous winter of Chicago survived. It was like two cold weeks. Now it's 60 degrees again. So all the people that you know, said Chicago is gonna be so tough. The winners are so bad. There has been snow in April here. Yeah, we're gonna probably get a couple more just like shitty days That are gonna be tossed in there some false shit. We're just gonna get some we're gonna get like a 30 degree day out of nowhere We got mid 60s this week. Yeah, all you need is a couple nice like today was really nice Tomorrow's gonna be really nice the clocks clocks changing. Clocks change. Like the, the end is near. Summer is here. It's gonna be 63 on,
Starting point is 00:46:07 on Saturday for the St. Patrick's day celebration. That's pretty dangerous. Um, either whose back was the Celtics, uh, as a national, I mean NBA championship favorite. Is LeBron hurt or is he just, I need, I need some, if they won that game, I need, I need two weeks before the playoff stretch. It's, I need two weeks for the playoff stretch. Yeah. It takes some time off the Lakers. Lakers are scaring me. They've been, you know, they won eight straight. They were playing really well. Uh, and it, you know, the conspiracy of how does Luca end
Starting point is 00:46:36 up in LA? The NBA needs a Celtics Lakers NBA finals for ratings. Yep. I hope that happens. I do too. I hope that happens The Celtics love Luca. They love hating Luca They love Dean him up and showing the world that he's not as good as you know People says he is showed it again last night Al Horford 40 plus maybe not 40 plus but he's so old Dean up LeBron Dean up Luca. It was just a beautiful sight to see and with no porzingis Yeah, yeah Dean up LeBron Dean up Luca Was just a beautiful sight to see and with no porzingis. Yeah Yeah, he had Luca locked up pretty good on a couple things I saw where Luca was just traveling all over the gym
Starting point is 00:47:10 He was taking like seven steps and he got need in the face on that Al Horford dunk Yeah, you got pickpocketed on one end need in the face on the other. It was just You're having the time of your life. You're calling them out. You're calling LeBron out Yeah, I was I was a little there's you know a little bit of concern with calling LeBron out. Yeah, I was, I was a little, there was, you know, a little bit of, of concern with like LeBron, Luca team of destiny. Could this be the team that beats Celtics now? But you want to play him now. Yeah. So you're rooting for the Lakers in the playoffs. Okay. I like that. I put, I put a two futures.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Obviously Celtics are such heavy favorites, but I did Celtics to beat the nuggets in the finals and Celtics to beat the Lakers in the finals. Are they going to, are the cells have any chance at the one seed or no? No, okay? So that's think they're probably six or seven back calves don't lose. It's crazy calves are really good Yeah, yeah, they're seven and a half back. Yeah, the calves are calves are awesome a really good team. You're not scared of them I'm a little concerned but I you know, we're the champs. You got to beat the champs to be the champs. Okay, can't be scared of a team that hasn't done it. Okay. PFT your who's back the week you my who's
Starting point is 00:48:12 back of the week is skipping Stephen a skip and Stephen a have reunited they're back together. They taped an episode of I believe it was skips podcast, right? Which if you had asked me whose podcast would it be, I would say probably Stephen A. Great booking by Skip to get Stephen A to go on his show. Maybe the LeBron thing had something to do with that. Maybe Skip saw LeBron, Stephen A yelling at each other,
Starting point is 00:48:37 and Skip was like, come talk to me about this, my son. Like this is friendly territory for you to get all the feelings off your chest about LeBron. But I'm pretty sure That's that was what I was hoping like they saw that it was like finally. It's time. Let's let's get back together It's like LeBron parent trapped him. I think the report came out on Friday. They had already taped it earlier in the week Ah, so I hope I hope the case is yeah, we need wrong bronze We'll talk about that for the whole time, but yeah
Starting point is 00:49:02 I'm pretty sure that the report came out Friday that they taped earlier in the week And the LeBron thing happened late Thursday night I mean if they taped and then that happened skip skip had to call up Stephen a be like we need to Do like an appendix to this? Yeah, I need to do like another segment because this is gonna be what people tune in for yeah I'm just very I will be to because if you if you you did not live through the first take years where it was skipping Stephen A, it was perfect television. Yeah. Just two guys who have never been wrong in their lives, disagreeing on everything. It's one of those, we were lucky enough to be born at the same time that those two guys
Starting point is 00:49:40 found each other and we're on TV and it was perfect. It was perfect. All right, my who's back is baseball injuries because Gary Cole's out for the year. Bad. Tommy John. Bad. Tommy John. Bad. Really bad. They should never change the rules about shaving your face. Facts. That's absolutely true. This would not have happened if he was clean shaven. That's true. That's your face. Your face is connected to your shoulder to your elbow, your elbow. Without a doubt. Max, what do you get?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Oh, oh, John Carlo also may have season ending in surgery. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it all went downhill. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Jalen Brunson got hurt too. Second guys grow beard. That's bad. They got st. John's basketball though. Max. Are you excited for your fills? I Yeah, I don't know. Okay, just say birds. They're just a bird Those are getting older. I mean, I'm gonna be excited for opening day We'll see how it do but I don't have the highest of hopes for the Phil season. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Oh, also National Sports Podcast. Ovi scored again. Oh, yeah. So what is he 10 away? Empty netter at the end. I think he's nine digits. I think he's nine away. He's eight eighty six right now. Damn. Yeah. Single digits there. It was an open netter, but it was also from center ice back hander off the boards. So it was a sick goal. That is sick.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And also, if you're a hater that says, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, too many empty netters, another empty netter for Ovi. Backhander off the boards. So it was a sick goal. That is sick. And also if you're a hater that says To me empty netters another empty netter for Ovi. You have to be winning the game to score an empty netter Yeah, so that's pretty good. Also national sports podcast the NHL trade deadline Brad Marshawn trade to the Panthers Yeah, very sad. Very very sad again, not a die-hard Bruins fan, but your puckhead I'm a puckhead in the playoffs and and Again, not a diehard Bruins fan, but your pocket. I'm a puck head in the playoffs and and So you won't be doing that was the very very it's tough that he went to the Panthers like that hurt it's it's tough to get over our rivals hated rivals and truly the end the final person of
Starting point is 00:51:39 Someone who won a championship for Boston when I was still in high school, last player on any of the teams. So it's sad, sad, sad day for, for young Hank. And he wanted to stick around too. Yeah. It sounds like they, they, the Bruins fucked it all up. I know that you're not supposed to pay a guy based on what he's done for the team, but some guys like a centerpiece like that. I, I feel like he wasn't even asking them to break the bank. Right. He said, I'll come down. I think he had a face to face meeting with him. He said, I'll bring my request down. If you can meet me in the middle, we'll make something happen. I don't want to play anywhere else. And they said, Okay, we'll talk about it. Pack your bags. Go to Florida. Should we get to our interview with coach Tom Izzo? Awesome interview.
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Starting point is 00:54:54 Incredible run that his Michigan State Spartans are on right now. It is head coach Tom Izzo. Coach, first of all, congrats on the title. I know you got more work to do, but I wanted to start with that because, uh, I know we got to talk about what happens when a team stands on a logo and, and what goes on with that. But I want to talk with your team and how they're playing right now. Uh, um, like three weeks ago, you guys were 19 and five, you were lost three or four, you had a gauntlet coming up at the end of the big 10 schedule. You ripped off seven straight wins to finish 26 and five win the big 10 outright. What changed? And how are we here right now where you guys are looking prime for a deep run in March? Well, to be honest with you guys, my staff did an unbelievable job. I mean, we spent a lot of time. We felt like, you know, we've got a good team, but it's not a talent laden team.
Starting point is 00:55:51 And so we started working together more. We became very good defensively. We just couldn't make a shot from three. We're shooting it good. We're getting to the line. We're making free throws. We're scoring 80 points a game. And I said, if we ever make some threes, we could be really good. Well, we got a little better with now we're making threes and, uh, you know, we're still maintaining
Starting point is 00:56:16 our defensive stuff. I think the players and the, my staff did an unbelievable job and I've, I'm gotten along for the ride. That's too humble. Yeah, you this might be, you know, one of your best coaching jobs that you've ever done this year, considering where you know, you came to the season, what the expectations were, and then how you guys are playing. I also just love the voice right now. Your voice sounds like March basketball. Are you going to take a couple days off?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Are you putting yourself on like a word count for the next couple days? Try to gain that back? You know, guys, the only time I lose my voice is when I don't sleep and I haven't had a lot of sleep lately, as you can tell by how I look. But now, you know, we're we are taking a day off tomorrow. We've been on a grind and now we don't play till Friday. So guys deserve a day off. But, you know, you'd really like my team, players, they've worked their tail off. They've been selfless. They've sacrificed for each other. And it's kind of a good team to, to cheer for. And yet, we still make our mistakes. You know, we have our times when we don't take care of take care of the ball or we kind of go through these little stretches. And so we got to try to correct that this week. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, today was, uh, the big win against Michigan. You guys had already wrapped up the big 10 title. So obviously you're playing for your seniors, but you know, the effort was there and you guys, you guys killed Michigan. We had a little, little duped to do at the end of the game with some Michigan players standing on the logo when seniors are going to kiss the floor
Starting point is 00:57:49 and Trey Holloman took it in under his own hands. I got to start with Trey. He was, he was made in an ISO factory. How do you always get these guys? He's a dog. He's got like so much heart and it's down to the thick headband. I feel like you always got the dogs with the thick head. When they put on the thick headband it's like that's an is oh guy and you know you can go to war with that guy. So is he would it be safe to say that he's kind of the heartbeat of the team and you liked what he did there like you know kind of standing up for for the Spartans and for all the home fans and everyone there. Well I didn't love what happened you you know, because, um, the
Starting point is 00:58:25 game was going along pretty good. They came back, give them credit. And, uh, we have a tradition here and it's been a tradition for 30 years. And, um, I didn't even see all of it. You know, dusty's done a good job with his team, but, uh, you know, we've gone through a few things over the years with Michigan and, um, uh, you know, we've gone through a few things over the years with Michigan and, you know, that hits home a little bit, but I would never do anything on somebody else's court. We did not celebrate the Big Ten Championship at Iowa. You know, I wouldn't do any of that. But we are going to celebrate at home when we win.
Starting point is 00:59:02 And I think it just got out of hand quick. I don't even know totally what happened. Um, I do know this. Our guys are kind of trained by the guys before them, not by me. You know, when Patine Cleaves comes back or Steve Smith is there, even back to Magic Johnson. I mean, um, you know, Draymond Green, I mean, the rivalry is a rivalry. I mean, you're not supposed to love your rival, but you're supposed to respect them.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And I felt like, you know, Trey was sticking up for not only his teammates, but all the players that have come before him that got a chance on this special day to kiss the ass and kind of kind of symbolize, uh, you know, what we are here, you know, we're not flashy and this and that we're just kind of grimy. You know, we get down and kiss the floor. I mean, that's not always good, you know, to kiss the board. There's a lot of people, but on that floor, what we do, and, uh, I hope that doesn't take away from, you know, how good we played the game. And they came back in a second, I hope that doesn't take away from, uh, you know, how good we played in the game. And they came back in a second. I haven't played good also. Yeah. I loved it. I listened
Starting point is 01:00:09 with your, you're on the right show because we're a big supporter of rivalries should be, you shouldn't like your rival. That's what makes sports fall. Like that's those moments are what we tune in as fans. And I love Trey Hallman doing that standing up for him. Hey, listen, there's a, a pretty basic rule. Don't stand on another man's logo. You can't do that. Can't stand on another man's logo. Get them off there. And if there's one thing I know about the university of Michigan, they don't tolerate post-game theatrics at midfield or at half court. That's just not in their deal. So they were probably shocked to see something like that happen. There was a funny moment though, as all this was being cleaned up, you had your arm around dusty may he had his arm around.
Starting point is 01:00:48 You guys were talking to each other. What was said? Were you guys, were you explaining to him? Cause I don't think that dusty knew about the tradition. Were you letting him know, Hey, dusty, this is what we do when we win at the end of the season. Well, we do it when we lose. I mean, Draymond green senior year, we lost the game. I mean, it's tradition. It's not tradition when we win or tradition. This is what you do. Some guys have been there four years, blood, sweat and tears, that's what we do.
Starting point is 01:01:16 And I just told Dusty that, but he was at Indiana, you know, he's been in the state at Eastern. You know, I think he's done a hell of a job this year with his team and I give them all the credit. But let's be real here. Nobody is disrupting us from kissing the ass. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Can't do it. We had 15,000 people and probably 600,000 living alums watching for that moment and we would have done living alums watching for that moment. And, uh, we would have done it if they would have beat us. Yeah. Just about winning guys. Dreymon green lost that game to Ohio state. I think we had one or two other guys, but that was devastating.
Starting point is 01:01:58 They hit a last second shot beat us by one and, uh, Dreymont, uh, we had to live that, you know, he had to kiss the S on a loss. So it's not something we do as front runners. We do it because it's who we are, what we are. It was started by Sean Rastbert. It was reinvented by Matin Cleaves. Those are two of the greatest players that ever played here. And it's going to continue hopefully the rest of my life, but definitely as long as I'm head coach, it's going to continue hopefully the rest of my life. But definitely as long as I'm head coach it's going to continue. I got a question about that because I I I learned something today because we were trying to get you on this afternoon and and you had your mother in attendance and she's 99 years old and it dawned on me with those genetics.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Are you going to coach for another 20 years? I feel like you're never going to stop. You're going to coach forever. I mean, your 99 year old mother was it was at the president center today. I heard reports that she was handling the stairs just fine. So like you're going to coach forever. Well, I got 29 years to catch her. So who knows? You know, but I tell you guys, it was a thrill of mine. I have my family there, my grandchild there, my 99 year old mother. And, um, a lot of former players came back. And like I said, um, Michigan, Michigan state this year, rivalries aren't rivalries and both teams aren't good.
Starting point is 01:03:19 That's another thing about rivalries. You know, you don't have a rivalry. I mean, my first three years here, I couldn't call it a rivalry. You got beat you don't have a rivalry. I mean, my first three years here, I couldn't call it a rivalry. We got beat by 20 every night. Right. And then we went on a stretcher. We did a lot of the beating and, um, you know, then John Beeline came along and we, I think had a very tough rivalry, but a very respectful rivalry. But knowing you guys, the way you are there at barstools, I,
Starting point is 01:03:44 I would probably figure that you'd like us to drop the gloves. Yeah. Have a big hockey fist fight. Yes. I would appreciate that. I wouldn't go over big for me, but I guess once in a while, I understand how you guys feel. Yes. Yes. We, we, we love rivalries. We love bad blood. Have you ever kissed the S? By the way, it's kissing the S, not kissing ass. Yeah, are you an ass kisser? It did definitely sound like the first time you said it, kissing ass.
Starting point is 01:04:13 I've done that a lot, Michael. But no, I haven't. You only do that on your last time in Breslin. This is the last time in Breslin when it is. I'm positive. I'll kiss the air. Yes. Got to got to speaking of Breslin. I got a question for you. So I'm I'm a Badger. We played you guys last Sunday. What do you do? It's the is oh magic. There was a moment in the game where where Tonje went up got called and won They went to I think commercial break and they're like ha ha just kidding. It's ball out out the side There was no foul there And then you guys went on a 10-0 run and ended up winning the game pretty easily Was that just you just talked to the ref and you're like hey listen. That's not gonna happen in my house You guys are crazy man, you know the moment I'm talking about the game swung on
Starting point is 01:05:06 that moment. I'm not an excuse guy but it swung on that moment. What do you think I had uncle Guido doing the referee. I don't know. I'm just asking just asking questions. You know the truth of it is and Greg garden I talk a lot. He's one of my favorite guys. So believe it or not I guess I got to like you a little bit because I love playing in the job. He did. I think he was coach of the year this year. When you look at where they were picked 12th, 13th, he reinvented his team. He's done an unbelievable job. It's too bad that he has some alums that are turned out like you guys. No, I didn't, I didn't talk to the official. Uh, those guys make mistakes, you know, once in a while, once in a while. Yeah. They make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah. It was just, it was an interesting mistake. I, so, so about Greg garden, the big 10 as a whole, cause you played Iowa on Thursday night and Fran McCaffrey, it's not a, they've had a bad season and you talked afterwards you're like look this guy's a great coach you got to stick with these guys you don't want to make a mistake and move on what you've had some years in your career where it's maybe not been up to expectations. What does it feel like when that kind of the walls closed. Do you feel that. Are you like hey look I'm trying my best here but it's it's year to year and the ball doesn't bounce your way sometimes.
Starting point is 01:06:28 You know, there's a lot of things that happen, especially now with this transfer portal and everything. You know, it's, I mean, I look at Greg Gar last year, struggled a little bit, right? Yeah. And then, and you, I hope you weren't one of them that was leading the charge. That guy did an unbelievable job this year. I mean, not only did he reinvent his team, but he reinvented his style. You know, they were scoring 90 points a game. Yeah. Well, probably was turning over in his bed out there.
Starting point is 01:06:56 His home springs. But I was really, no, I just think that coaches nowadays are in trouble because everybody thinks because you're paying players, you should win. Well, other people are paying players too. You got a lot of problems with these kids leaving and coming and going and you can be up one year and down the next. It's going to be, you know, I saw where they just fired the guy at North Carolina state.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Yeah. Yeah. He went to a final four last year and I don't know the particulars to it. So I'm not speaking about it either way, but, um, you know, there's administrators out there that are, are crazy too, you know, it's not just coaches that are crazy. There's administrators that are crazy too. Yeah. It feels coaches that are crazy. There's administrators that are crazy too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:47 It feels like the whole college sports, the pressure has just been ramped up even more in terms of urgency and just like win now, win now. And if you don't, like you said, the NIL has changed the landscape for it. And even in the off season, if you don't add guys that your fan base is excited about going to the next year, they almost put you in the hot seat preemptively.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Where were Spartans fans with you this off season? Were they excited about this year? I don't know, I do something really good that would probably bother you guys. I've never been on Twitter in my life and I don't plan on starting it. No. So they were probably upset with me, I don't know, but I didn't know it. I tricked them. Yeah. I just didn't read anything. You know, my wife has the rule here. There's no, no newspapers, no online stuff, no anything. So I just kind of do my job, but it is getting harder. You are, you are so right in college athletics in general, but I think we still, um, I think
Starting point is 01:08:50 you'd be surprised, you know, it's not 40% of the people are 30 or maybe even 20. It's 10% of the people are 15 that make all the noise. And somebody believes them because sometimes administrators, you know, they used to be former coaches. And so the coach understood what was going on. Now some of them are not former coaches. And I don't think they understand, you know, one big injury like Franny. Yeah. He lost the freshman of the year last year. The guy was averaging almost 17 points a game. He's 610 and all of a sudden you don't have him. And, uh, you know, in sports, they do it a lot in football. They say, well, the theory is next man
Starting point is 01:09:38 up, right? You always hear that line man up. If the next man up was as good as the guy that was there before him, he'd have been a starter. So man up isn't the same man. True, true. Especially when there's not as many men. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like you got you got five. Good luck if you lose one, you're gonna have to coach that guy up. When did you realize though, that this year, was it when the three started falling, you realize that this team might be special? Was it when the three started falling? You realized that this team might be special? No, because the three started falling just, you know, maybe a week or two ago. You know, we took our team to Spain. We did a bunch of stuff this summer
Starting point is 01:10:14 to try to keep the culture and camaraderie. I was really lucky because I had some guys coming back. Jeremy Fears, who was injured last year, you know, he's come back. I get a guy like Jace Richardson whose dad won two Big Ten championships and a national championship here. I think they knew what the culture was. What has really impressed me about my guys is the the way they bonded together and pulled from one another and, um, the, the, the selfless acts, you know, the sacrifices they made up maybe a few minutes here, a few points there.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And uh, I got to admit, it's been one of the more fun teams I've had to coach now. Sometimes we're not as good, but, um, we found a way to hang in there and, uh, I'm proud of them. Yeah, Maryland 3-2, the buzzer beater. It started to feel, and you had quotes talking about these guys understand Michigan State and I was like, uh-oh, this is a problem for the Big Ten because this is, is oh, there's some of, I can kind of, I've been, I know you from afar for a long time. I can tell when you start to get a little swagger. I could tell when you feel like you got some guys and that, that happened a few
Starting point is 01:11:28 weeks ago. I was like, no, this is a problem. Well in that game, you know, the only thing I was frustrated with is we had pretty much been up eight or nine points, you know, and we screwed up at the end. So we need the heroic play and everybody made it out to be. We were lucky. I thought we played pretty well. Most of that game. Yeah. It's not the iso swagger that does it. Cause believe it or not guys, I never shoot a shot, never get a rebound or make a pass.
Starting point is 01:11:53 These guys have, have taken on their own personality. You kind of hope each team each year has something that they can hang their hat on, you know what I mean? You always want them to learn from the players before them, but you also want them to bring their own identity. This team has been different than most teams before them. What's been the same is I got good guys. I think they play for the name on the front end back.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I don't think it's just that way where you play for the name on your front anymore. Those days are kind of gone. But way where you play for the name on your front anymore. Those days are kind of gone. But if you just play for the name on your back, you got problems. So I think this team has found a way to play for both. And I'm really kind of proud and excited about it. And I'm also enjoying it, you know, and, you know, me, I don't enjoy a lot of things. So this is good. Are you still daring teams to zone you? You threw that out there a couple of weeks ago. You said, I dare you to zone us. Uh, is that still standing now that you're hitting your threes? Well, when I say dare them to zone us, I mean, listen, we played Indiana and I went to the press government said I did a poor job. Don't blame the players. We did not prepare enough for it. They played like 2% zone. We hadn't worked on it as much. And so it wasn't only that we didn't shoot well, we didn't execute well. And that was,
Starting point is 01:13:20 you know, I mean, there's times when coaches got to look in the mirror and say, you know what? I didn't do my job. And I said that and run to everybody. And, and, but I followed then we're going to be making sure that never happens again. So we're working at it harder. But at the end of the day, as you guys know, you can work on anything all you want. If the ball isn't going to hoop, it's like hockey, you know, or soccer, you know, you can pepper that goalie, but if it don't go in there, you don't score. And so, um, there was a combination, you know, we needed to get better at what we do. We needed to make some shots, but, but we have to execute better. And that's what we've improved on. Now we're starting to make shots and then we'd be a much better team.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Yeah. Have you had to break out the football pads this year? You know, you guys laugh about that. Every time my old players come back, that's the first thing they talk about. You know, I did it because I was mad and we had so much fun. I'd have done it again. I just afraid this day and age, some lawyer come in and sue me, you know, I get fired, but, uh, the guys love it. Um,
Starting point is 01:14:31 it's, it's another part of our identity. So maybe someday I'll shut off the cameras and doors and, and, uh, go ask Jonathan to borrow some football gear that, That was fun, man. Nick Saban sent over 12 sets. It was awesome. Yeah. Hey, quick question about your bobblehead. Do you see your bobblehead? Do you think they did a good job with your bobblehead? They have a iso counter for wins because you're going up there in all the records. Like I said, but you know, you broke Bobby Knight's big 10 win record. You just tied him for the conference record. You just keep going going and going. But they made
Starting point is 01:15:09 a bobblehead. I think they could have gotten a little more is or maybe put on that like crazy leprechaun sweater that you wear something like that. Now I don't look at my my bobblehead. I haven't seen my bobblehead and I'm sure it's not I'm sure it's not very good. You know my bobblehead doesn't have to be that big. I'm not that tall so I don't know what the bobblehead is but I keep saying I don't win those games the players win those games and I mean that I mean that from the bottom of my heart and but I also, guys, it's been an interesting three, four years. And yet, we won a championship, I think, in 18, 19, and 20, and now another one in 25.
Starting point is 01:15:59 So we had a little bit of a down stretch there. But right now, how good we are, I don't know. And like I said, it's not the talent laden team that maybe you normally see, but it sure has been a fun team to coach and guys are getting better. And I think they believe in each other and they, they play for each other. Yeah. Better than that. How, how much importance do you put on the tournament now on the,
Starting point is 01:16:28 on the conference tournament? Is this something where it means a lot to you? It would mean a lot to the program if you guys won the whole thing, or is it, let's just go out there. Let's work on some stuff. We'll try to win. But if we don't win, it's not the end of the world. Yeah, I don't think I'd ever admit that. But the truth of the matter is, you know, winning the regular season is so important to me because it's that 20 game stretch, you know, and you get lucky or unlucky in three games and you might be in or out here. But I still think it's important because it teaches you how to play when it's one and done time.
Starting point is 01:17:05 In other words, if you lose Friday, you're done. And so that's where we had a stretch today. We didn't play very well. And that's the first thing I told our guys, say, guys, you know, if this happens in the NCAA tournament or the Big Ten tournament and you go down, you're out. You know, it's not, you just get another chance. So those will be things we'll be working on this week. So it's still important to me, but it doesn't supersede the 20 game grind that we just went through.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Yeah. All right, coach. I got one last question. This has been so much fun. We love having you on. We appreciate you giving us some time. A back question R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back dot com promo code take. Uh, it's actually a two part man. I can't even understand you. It's a two part question cause I got, I, can you sit up for a second? I want to see the positive vibes only sweatshirt. It looks awesome. Wait, let me get that in frame. See if you can get it in frame. I want to get the, there we go. Positive vibes only that I love that you're wearing that. Uh, I don't know if you, I would imagine in like the, you know, when you're preseason and you're coaching the guys tough, you're probably not
Starting point is 01:18:17 like, Hey guys, positive vibes only. That's all we're going to do. I don't know if that matches your style. You could tell me if I'm wrong. You don't seem like a total positive vibes only guy. Yeah, you're probably right about that. But it's, it's hard not to be positive when you just went through this 20, you know, game grind and we won the big dent. Yeah. Right. So at least for tonight, by tomorrow we'll be back to dog eat dog. But tonight we're into the positive. But I like that. So my last question, my real last question you, you, you've been coaching for 30 years. You've seen it all. You've been
Starting point is 01:18:55 in all these tournament settings. Do you kind of relish getting into March madness into the big dance, uh, knowing that you have a little bit of an edge because you have seen it all and that quick turnaround. That's what I love about the tournament where it's like you play Thursday play Saturday. The coaching staffs do players make the plays. You said it a million times but the coaching staffs do matter because you have such a little prep time for the for the opponent. It can be a team you've never seen. Styling never seen. Do you feel extra confident though going in being like look look, I've seen it all. I know how to coach on 24 hours.
Starting point is 01:19:29 I know how to get my team ready quickly on a quick turnaround. You know, honestly, I would say that's one thing that I'll give my staff's credit of over the years. I think we have had enough experience in the eight final fours and the things we've done that quick turnarounds are a key. So I feel really comfortable that we'll have our teams prepared, but you still got to play well. But I think, I think the experience, even for a player experience matters, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:00 and uh, I think experience matters in that respect as far as preparing them, but it's still got to play the game. Yeah. Yeah. How are we feeling about the talk of expanding the tournament? I know that they said that they might look to add 18, 16 teams. There's all these plans out there for the future. Where do you stand as a coach?
Starting point is 01:20:21 Yeah, I was involved in a lot of things. I was on a lot of committees, but this last couple of things that have happened, I've kind of just decided I care about the game a lot. I work for a guy who loved the game. I mean, he cared more about how the game went sometimes in our own team. But I would say this, I'm not really putting enough time in to figure out what's right. I hope they do what's right for basketball, what's right for the players in the game, and not just for money or something else.
Starting point is 01:20:56 I hope it's, you know, the best interest of basketball. And I don't know what that would be until I really sat down and observed it. But right now there's some younger coaches out there that I really respect. They're on some of these committees that I think will fight those fights. And in the meantime, I'm going to just, they want my opinion. I give my opinion and you're going to say, well, what's your opinion? I worry if they expand it too much. You know, we have already it's they expand it too much, you know, we have already, it's tough because we have Cinderella, you know, football doesn't have Cinderella, everybody that's in there. I mean, I've been beaten by a 15, right? You know,
Starting point is 01:21:36 my good friend, Tony Bennett, you know, was beaten by a 16, you know, I mean, it happens in football that will never happen because that team will never be in there So the more you expand it the more those kind of things happen, which you guys all like the first day, right? But TV doesn't like it the second round. No, no So it's always fun and exciting for you guys. And meanwhile, I'm sitting home ready to You know whatever fun and exciting for you guys. And meanwhile, I'm sitting home ready to, you know, whatever. But I do respect the little guys too, because I was a division two guy to start with.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And I have great respect for Cinderella. I have great respect for what VCU did back when Shaka was there, you know, that was, I was pulling for him. But now that I'm on this side, I, uh, it's scary. You know, I, we, we faced middle Tennessee state, for example, and we were really good and Danzell Valentine, and I thought I had to make it to a final four. And, um, we were, I think one in the country defensively, I think they shot 58% in the field and 54% from the three. Right. I mean, they just beat us and uh, that was kind of bone crushing, you know? Yeah. I don't know what I'm, what I hope for. Um, I don't want it to be too watered down and yet I want everybody to get a chance that
Starting point is 01:23:05 deserves a chance. Yeah. Good answer. All right, coach. Thank you. Rest that voice. Um, and you're, you are very humble, but incredible year, incredible team. And, uh, we're excited to watch you guys in March. Well, you know, the only person who'd be more excited than you two that I did come on is my son because he spends all the time watching you guys. So clean your act up, do a good job, talk good about everybody. Be positive. Yup. Positive vibes sometimes. Positive vibes sometimes. Then it's dog eat dog. All right. Thank you coach. Appreciate it so much. Take care. Tommy's was brought to you by Proper 12. You've heard of the Irish exit. You slide out of Take care. proper number 12 Irish whiskey. The party starts with the Irish entrance and simply wouldn't be a proper Irish entrance without proper 12. The original rich and
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Starting point is 01:24:33 sent to memes. Good. Am I the asshole question on Reddit? You have you not read this? This picture is post. Oh Oh yeah, positive vibes only. He looks like he's a hostage. Yeah, looks like a hostage. A good rule of thumb is if you're posting something to am I the asshole, you're usually an asshole. Yeah, all right, so this one is,
Starting point is 01:24:54 am I the asshole for letting a neighbor make pack lunch for me? My wife used to pack lunch for me, but I noticed a while back that she stopped making lunch like she used to. Already, bad start. Before she would get creative with it, take her time, try new recipes,
Starting point is 01:25:11 put little special touches here and there. Then I felt like it just became, okay, what are the kids having? I'll just make an extra one and give it to them, or give that to him. I would make my own lunch, but for one, it's not the same as when she makes it, ha ha. And two, I work in construction, so by the time I come home, all I want to do is hit the sheets.
Starting point is 01:25:29 And all the places to get lunch near the construction site are expensive. So I'd rather just bring something from home. So I brought it up to her one day and we talked about it. And she told me that she had so many things to do in a day that she didn't have as much time to put her energy into making my lunches like she used to. Seems reasonable. It also seems like the lunch might be a metaphor for something else in this relationship. Yeah. Well, so far we've learned that this guy is mad that his lunch wasn't made well. And also when he gets home, he goes right to bed. And also she spends more time making the kids lunches than she does making his lunch. Yes. God damn it. You got to make technical free throws.
Starting point is 01:26:06 You have to make technical free throws. That's a sidebar. But I could see that she genuinely felt bad because I noticed the next few lunches were more polished than the previous ones and I appreciated her so much for trying that when the quality of lunches started to go down again. I didn't even have the heart to complain. Wow. Fast forward, I have a day off so so my wife drags me to a Bible study
Starting point is 01:26:25 that was being hosted at a neighbor's house. The food was so good that I kept going back for more. After my third plate, the woman who had made the food and I started talking, basically she told me that she was flattered that I liked her food so much and that she was training to be a chef and that she had more food that she would like me to try out.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I told her that that would be perfect because I always am looking for different things to try and whatever food she made, I could just pick up in the morning and take with me to lunch. Okay. So you're letting your, you're asking your neighbor now to make you lunch every day. Does that also entail like you going over to her house first thing in the morning? Well, yes. And question the lunch up. Yes. We exchange information. The next day She sent me an address to her home, which turned out to be right on the way to work and not too far from the construction site. So that's where I've been getting lunch for the past few days. This does seem like a big metaphor. Yeah. Like my wife, it was great when we first got married. The lunch was fantastic. But my neighbor,
Starting point is 01:27:20 she would do special tricks and it would be, you know, try something new all the time. A lot of variety there. Then it got stale. Kids showed up. But then I met, then I met my neighbor and man, she makes a fucking hot lunch. Yeah. And met her at Bible study. So you know, there's nothing there. Right. This is, he's hitting all the cliches. I told my wife that she'd have to make lunch for me anymore. And she didn't say anything until today. until today She said she said she thought I was getting lunch from the store And I said that I don't see why that matters where I'm getting it from She said it she doesn't want me to pick up lunch from there anymore I told her she was being unreasonable for no reason we had a big argument a few hours ago
Starting point is 01:27:58 She's still mad am I the asshole. I really don't see what the problem is She doesn't have to worry about taking time out of her day to make lunch for me, I'm getting quality lunches again. How is this not a win-win for everybody? I'm confused This guy's the most guy brain ever. It's just lunch, baby He is like he just quintessential guy like well, I like special lunches. You didn't make me special lunches I found special lunches win-win. There's no difference between me getting the lunch from my neighbor and me buying it at the store. There's no difference. It's somebody else made it. Why don't you get upset if I go to Wendy's during the day? All right. Edit. I know what you guys are implying, but it can't be because she thinks I'm cheating. I told her that she can literally check my hours when I arrive at work. I have to clock
Starting point is 01:28:41 in. If I was going over to her place to cheat, I would be clocking in late unless you come fast. Yeah. Check my location. Yeah. Uh, edit two to clarify one. I complained once, but after I saw how bad she felt, I didn't complain again and quietly kept eating the lunch she made. Good guy. Hero. Good guy. To stop making it seem like he intentionally went out looking for another woman to make me food. She's a chef. She saw that I enjoyed her food and came up to me and offered again. She's a chef in training. Obviously she wants people to try out her food. Please stop making it seem like it's more than that because it's not. I love my wife. She's a chef. I wonder if this guy, cause he's going to construction every day. Do they do trades at lunch and construction like they do in elementary school? Oh yeah. Like you show up at Doug Roos. Elementary
Starting point is 01:29:27 school. You roll in with a pack of gushers. You can take five people's sandwiches for that one thing. Absolutely. So I feel like on a construction site, you probably are able to wheel and deal and upgrade. And he probably just, since she wasn't doing a good job making his lunch anymore, he was probably just left out of the trading circle. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, edit three. Well, basically it seems like it's unanimous that I'm the asshole, but I really can't. He must've just been getting roasted, but I really came here hoping to find out why. And no one really explained to me why it's wrong for me to eat food that a chef ordered offered to me, especially since my wife has already said in that she's usually too busy to make lunch the way she used to. I thought this would be easier on her and let her have more
Starting point is 01:30:08 time in her day to focus on other things. But somehow I wind up the bad guy shaking my head. Thank you for all the responses, but I think I'm going to keep eating at the chef's house. I can't stress enough. This dude is just like, he has the most like caveman brain. I like that. He, his whole point of view is I thought you'd appreciate it. Yeah. I thought that I'm doing this for us. No one is telling me why this is bad. I'm doing it for us, babe. I thought you'd be happy that I was going over to her house every morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Picking up food. Here's a reason it might be why your overstressed wife who's a busy taking care of your kids. Maybe doesn't love the fact that you love the food that your, your hot neighbor is making. and maybe because she was still going Out of her way to make you lunch every day. Yeah, your wife was making you lunch every day and it just wasn't up to your Special it wasn't like it used to be. Yeah, I editorialized hot but we all agree this chef is hot Oh for sure Bible study chef hot for sure and she's also like
Starting point is 01:31:02 She is definitely unhappy in her marriage if she's making lunch for a random construction Yeah, does her husband know that how would this guy feel if he came home and and there was another guy that was just mowing His lawn a construction dude is pulling up to his house every morning. You're like, where's my food? He's yeah, he's pulling up. He's got his hard hat on. Oh, he looks like a village person Maybe just only wearing the vest probably got some sick tattoos edit for last edit. Wow, he looks like a village person. Maybe just only wearing the vest. Probably got some sick tattoos. Edit four last edit. Wow. She locked the bedroom door. So I guess I'll be here reading responses from time to time until I fall asleep. How did I get here? I love this dude. I kind of agree with him.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I love this dude. It's just lunch. This dude wants to come on. We can, uh, we can have his back and just be like, dude, I, we still don't understand it. That food like, yeah, it's just lunch. Why didn't she make you special? She doesn't put the treats in there anymore. When, when this is crazy. She's trained by the way, she's training to be a chef could mean a lot of things. Oh yeah. It could just mean like she likes cooking food. Yeah. And it's been her dream. Like when she was a kid, she saw a movie about a chef and she's like, Oh,
Starting point is 01:32:03 that'd be fun. Yeah. And she just thought about it for a couple of years, or she could actually be in school. My guess is that she just enjoys cooking. Yeah. And the guy's like, she's trying to be a chef, man. She's trained to be a chef in that she's someday going to just be like making food for the whole Bible study. All the boys on the construction site. I hope she's an inspiring like food TikToker. Yeah. She has like 500 followers on Tik Tok and like is really trying to blow up her page.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Yeah. Yeah. That would be great. Uh, I love this dude though. What a meathead, absolute meathead. All right. Good show boys. Great. Two weeks coming up. Uh, memes. Welcome back. Memes, welcome back. Numbers? Three. 33. Eight. Three has never been pulled, memes? Not here.
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