Pardon My Take - Mike Florio + NFL Week 6 Recap

Episode Date: October 15, 2018

NFL Week 6 Fastest 2 minutes (2:27 - 7:34). Week 6 recap, Brock Osweiler owns the Bears, Nathan Peterman is hilarious, Big Ben owns Ohio, and the Broncos are on the watch for the Done Chain (7:34 - 28...:12). Chaos in College Football but LSU is back to playing Neck (28:12 - 33:10). Football Guy of the Week including Gregg Williams eating opossums and possibly rats (33:10 - 36:11). Who's back of the week (36:11 - 46:01). Mike Florio joins the show from Pro Football Talk to talk Week 6, what the Giants should do with Eli Manning, what the Raiders should do with Jon Gruden, and a spin on LeVeon Bell no one is talking about (46:01 - 65:43). Segments include Talking Baseball, just stop talking Jon Gruden, Perspective from Bruce Irvin and Nathan Peterman, Bad Visual Conor McGregor, and Trouble in Paradise Pete Davidosn/Ariana Grande You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Mike Florio catch up on everything that happened NFL week six, college football, mania. We also have fastest two minutes. We have just stopped talking, John Gruden, football guy of the week, who's back, a packed show.
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Starting point is 00:02:43 We start in Cincinnati where Ben David Lee Rothesberger told Antonio Brown, you might as well jump, jump, go ahead and jump. The Steelers have selected their Messiah and his name is James John Conner and he alone will take down Skyline Chili Neck. The game went back and forth but ultimately it was the Steelers' late drive that sealed the deal. In the words of my close personal friend Pink, TJGJ1, don't you ever ever feel like you're less than Vontesberpig.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Some spread across the pod we go where the Seahawks met for a battle of Britain. I saw Mark Davis with a P.F. Chang's menu in his hand. His hair was perfect. Crude in to London, crude in to Dum Dum. Derek Carr and his mini Cooper got lost driving on the wrong side of the road. No offense to Jim Ursa. The Seahawks pelage the riders.
Starting point is 00:03:47 27-30. What? To Minnesota where the nicest guy in the league, Larry Fitzgerald makes his homecoming. People forget he's from Minnesota there, Teej. Oshkosh Bajosh Rosen is stuck trying to find his baby clutch jeans but the Cardinals are still shitty overall. After a bumpy start to the season, the Vikings are starting to add him, feeling good, feeling great, feeling great, feeling good.
Starting point is 00:04:10 How about you? Viking 27, Cardinals 17. Fumble! Phillip Rivers was on fire in Cleveland Town Sunday afternoon and Melvin Gordon-Rams here reminded everyone that their fucking idiot sandwich for thinking the browns were good. This Chabral Pina Peppers tastes like crap. I wouldn't feed this to my dog, Pound. You call yourself a baker?
Starting point is 00:04:33 You fucking shitmate, innit? The San Diego Super Chargers 38, Browns 14. It's a Julio, my lord, and he still can't score when the hell's this guy gonna score a TD. Come on, Mike Smittany, you're defense is so shitty. Matt Ryan and the Falcons lit up your Tittany's. Sean McShay's play calling looked like an angry Mel Kuiper before the draft as Todd Gurley ran for 208 yards and two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Emanuel Bernie Sanders is sick of the 1% completion percentage of Case Ketum, wondering why everyone else in the NFL can't share wins while the Rich L.A. Rams keep getting richer. Ram 23, Broncos 20. Down in Houston where the hand of God, Josh Allen, went out with an injury leading to Nathaniel Hoffhorn-Piederman and his three scarlet letters, I-N-T, Kelvin Benjamin Raspel, a garden variety manic-depressant trying to take down the Bills locker room before the game.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It was D'Andre Anthony Hopkins who ate the Bills secondary with some fava beans and a nice canteen. Texas 20, Bills 13. Rubblin Stubblin, he could go. And the big D with a Dallas Cowboy Band's offense was under fire, their QB announced to the world, everybody, yeah, broke your body, yeah, everybody. We finished with a wild and crazy shootout in Foxboro where the Patriots took down the Chiefs 43-40, stop me if you've heard this before, Andy Reed had trouble with the clock
Starting point is 00:07:00 when Tyree Kill scored too fast down the stretch. Let's kick it down to the field where we have Patrick Mahomes on the broadcast, Patrick, talk about. But I tell you what, this is just one of those games that's just as fun to play as it is to watch. I certainly missed some throws in the first half, those are going to haunt me for the rest of my days. And they go, credit cut to Coach Reed, he kept a bowl in my hand, he was over there on the
Starting point is 00:07:22 sidelines, bounding up just like Clipsworth, the big red dog, fortunately had some treats for himself in the pocket, just reminded me a lot of my big 12 days back at Texas Tech with the writers taking on the Oklahoma Soutters. Oh, right, week six, before we get into week six, well, first it's tax day. Yeah, it's tax day. It is actually tax day. He actually taxed, Hank did his taxes last year, so he's good. Second, I want to say before we start, you know, like the, how we, when we started this
Starting point is 00:07:50 show two and a half years ago, we're like, Hey, listen, if we can make ourselves laugh, we can make other people laugh. The Patrick Mahomes talking thing, that might just be us making each other laugh. Maybe no one else thinks it's funny, but we're going to do it every week because I die laughing every time. It's tough for me to get out. And then when I hear Patrick Mahomes actually talk, I'm like, Holy shit, that's PFT. You know what though?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Like we do this to Patrick Mahomes because we like Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. No, he follows me on Twitter. I don't know if I've told you that. Yes. You've mentioned it once or twice. Fun guy to watch play. He's just got an interesting voice.
Starting point is 00:08:22 He does. He does. All right. So let's get into it. All right. Let's jump right in. So let's talk about your bears. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So everyone right now is tuned in to hear how you feel about getting a beef and broccoli Osweiler just ramming the ball down your throat. Well, we might as well throw in the Wisconsin Badgers there too, because of the weekend, the theme of the weekend is chicken shit football, coward football, not going forward on, on fourth downs, not running the ball north and south when you have good running backs and good offensive lines. Bullshit. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I'm not going to waste my time. The bears are different than the Badgers. The Badgers season is over. They're fucking dumpster fire. I'm done. I actually know what I did last night when I was drunk and I didn't realize it until this morning because I started getting emails from all my friends. I set up an alert.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I had no joke. A tight re-kill in the backfield. No, it's, uh, it's for November 9th and I set up alert. It's Friday. It's a Friday, November 9th. I guess the next day is the Wisconsin at Penn State and I just all caps. I wrote, don't ever think about getting sucked back into this Wisconsin season. They're chicken shit cowards and don't deserve your time or money.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Move on. Fuck them. Done chicken shit football. Hashtag. And I just invited all my college friends and I just started getting the emails this morning. I was like, oh, whoops. I didn't even know I did that.
Starting point is 00:09:31 This, this is like when you have an X and you tell all your friends, hey, don't let me go home with it. Don't let me go home with her tonight. Take my phone. I know she's going to be there and just if I start talking to her, come over and pull me away. And you know what? You're going to have a couple beers and you're going to get sucked right back in and you're
Starting point is 00:09:45 going to regret it. So yeah, that's, that's that. We don't have to talk about, yeah, they're done. My first qualm with the bears today was the uniforms, obviously. So they looked like the dolphin. You don't like, yeah, you don't like the orange. It was the candy ass orange that they were wearing. They just, they didn't have it here.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I'm going to, I'm going to be totally honest with you. This is the cruelest thing that's, that, that has ever happened in the NFL. I love Brock Oswalt. I love making rocket ship jokes. I love watching him trip over his linemen. I love him being just a terrible quarterback and then in the cruelest twist of fate, he is my daddy. The Brock Oswalt has played for three different teams.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He has started his first start for each team, the Texans, the Broncos and the dolphins for each first start. He's beaten the Chicago bears. That is, do you know the odds of that for an AFC NFC crossover where it's his first start in that uniform and he somehow plays the bears, each first start and he somehow beats them at each first start. It's fucking bullshit. I would never want to see Brock Oswalt again.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Actually I take that back. I want to make a lot of jokes and I'm going to keep making jokes. I think the bears just need to sign them. He's the Revenant. He's Leonardo DiBrocrio and he just slaughters bears for a living. We need to sign them though and then bring them on so that he can't do this anymore. Right? That's the only way to do it.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Well, big guy, listen, I put this down. The bears are destined to sign Brock Oswalt. Not for that reason. Not for what you just said. But because he is the perfect, he's like, he's more Mike Glennon than Mike Glennon is. Yes. And the fact that he's impressed you guys so many times by beating him in your face.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I'm so excited. If this whole Mitch Trebisky experiment doesn't work out, then chill out. Chill out. Chill out. I'm just saying. Chill out. Where do we stand on that? No, the bears, everything.
Starting point is 00:11:24 The nice thing about the orange uniforms with Trebisky is his very, very tan biceps blend seamlessly into it. The bears had everything that like all their weaknesses, you know, rear their ugly heads at the same time. They Brock dinked and dunked. They couldn't get to the passer. Mitch made some bad throws and Matt Nagy turtled. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Listen, here's the spin zone. Here's the ultimate spin. I have two spin zones. One is every time the bears gone to the Super Bowl, they've lost in Miami. So check that off. You just had to do that. Also, it was the Adam Gase revenge game. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It was Adam Gase revenge game. I also, if the bears have won that game and gone four and one and then played the Patriots next week and it been like, someone would have written the, could this be a Super Bowl preview, which is stupid because the bears are not a Super Bowl team, whatever. But they, someone would have written that article and the minute that article was written, the bears were lost every game for the rest of the season because it just can't happen. So it's good to lay a little bit lower. One cool thing that we did get out of that game was Kenyan Drake, his fumble, like on
Starting point is 00:12:18 the one yard line. Oh yeah. And then the redemption, like he didn't cost the team the game after all. Yes. And he, man, he looked like he was going to just like commit seppuku, the Japanese suicide thing with a pylon. That's how, that's how distraught he looked on the sideline. It was, uh, that, that, I mean, that's pretty, pretty hard to fumble on the one yard.
Starting point is 00:12:36 There was two fumbles on the one yard line in that game. This is a weird game. Miami just does that. People forget it's a wet hot. It's very wet. Hot. Much rather be. They should change the name to how do people not make that the hard brock cafe stadium?
Starting point is 00:12:49 How is it hard rock cafe stadium, by the way, because of that? Because it rocks hard. Yeah. I guess so. But that's a weird sponsor. I do like hard. I do like hard brock though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Hard brock cafe. Yeah. So yeah. So that game, whatever, we had a wild, besides that game, that was a very wild game because it was like the game that everyone was excited for, excited to watch brocks fuck up. Everyone was saying free money because no way can brock beat the bears, blah, blah, blah. We also had Derrick. You choose what you want to talk about next.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Derrick Carr cried on the field in London. Nathan Peterman came into a game and said to his coaching staff, I got this and then threw a pick six. Well, that's what that he delivered. Or the or Ben Rottzelsberger having full ownership of the entire state of Ohio. Let's talk about the London game because yeah, you're right. Derrick Carr cried. I think we were all very surprised that we didn't see any mascara running down his
Starting point is 00:13:39 feet. He cried. He cried. That's okay. Okay. He cried. He's in England. It's like it's not cheating if you're in a different, what, zip code, area code, whatever
Starting point is 00:13:48 it is. Yes. He was in England. If you're in a different country, you're allowed to cry. He's fine, Derrick Carr. It was, I don't even know what to think of the Raiders anymore because John Gruden, it doesn't even feel like he's trying. It feels like he's like, you know what, I got 10 years, 100 million, I can just punt
Starting point is 00:14:04 on this year and we'll just figure, I mean, the Mark Cooper stuff's weird. Everything is just weird about the Raiders and they put in an absolute clunker. Right now, John Gruden's entering the phase of this job where he is starting to realize, hey, I might be in a little bit over my head. This isn't actually the year 1998. I know, I know Deuce is the same size as he was back in 1998. Yeah. That's, maybe that's what he should do.
Starting point is 00:14:26 He should just make Deuce Gruden interim coach, just haven't beat the shit out of all the players for a week. I like that. Gruden is day two of your new job when you put that you're proficient in Microsoft Excel on your resume. Yes. And they're like, hey, we need you to like crunch these numbers real quick. And you're just like, fuck, I don't know how to add cells.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. And I don't know how to do any of this. You're on like a two year, like this is a two year project that you're already halfway. Yeah. It's not a good thing going on and I don't know, they can't really do anything. My best guess is that Oakland will just end up jettisoning all of its players and Gruden will just ride the next like three years out as a big rebuild. And then he'll just rebuild the team in his own image and get the Vegas bump.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah. They'll get the Vegas bump a little bit. The Golden Knights had it. Yeah. Vegas bump. That's, you can get that checked out at any number. Well, and you also can make sure that you buy the good stuff when you get that Vegas bump.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That's right. Talking about different bumps. We're talking about a breather. Yeah. Yeah. Talk about dicks and cocaine. Yeah. So he spins on for Gruden though.
Starting point is 00:15:23 He was lucky that randomly the, the London game wasn't at 9 30 in the morning because if that was on centers, like everyone was watching that game, people would start figuring out that he's shitting his job. Good thing he's got another week to just kind of lay under. He's skating by. Yeah. It's okay. Unless he continues to do interviews.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So let's, let's do a big Ben in Ohio. Okay. So big Ben. So his record in Ohio now, this is the, the Browns and the Cleveland now he's from Ohio is 25, four and one. And it was a classic case of the Bengals looking like they are the team to beat in the AFC North. The Steelers having a very rocky start to their season, leaving on bell, all this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:15:59 They're like two and two, two and one come in, rip their hearts out, literally just rip all of their hearts out and be like, here you go and stuff it, you know, Vontess Burfolk even tried to kill Antonio Brown. Like the more things changed, the more they stayed the same. Yeah. And Juju got into a fight with one of the cornerbacks too. Like forget the, the Ravens and the Steelers. These are the two teams that now you're required to say don't like each other very much.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And it was, it was a violent game. It was like everything that you wanted that type of game, AFC North football, AFC North football, AFC North football. So big Ben owns Ohio. I think a lot of that record is just a product of playing the Browns twice. Yeah. But it's still impressive because they play the Bengals and the, like the Bengals, no, that's in Ohio.
Starting point is 00:16:40 So it's only once a year, but the Bengals, they're essentially are like, we're going to try to beat them up and it just hasn't worked and they need to find a new strategy. Maybe Marvin Lewis. Yeah. I don't know. Different code. They should have just a different coach for that game. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I think we should have a different chat because it's not, and the wild card game and the wild. Yeah. New coach. Yeah. But do you think, I mean, we'll have to get our stats department on this. Do we have a, we have a, we have like an ant that Bubba is okay, Bubba, who do you think was that was, what was that?
Starting point is 00:17:08 It was the stats department. Was that a phone ringing? No. I think he was a calculator. Okay. I just wonder what Tom Brady's record is in the state of New York because I bet you it's more impressive than big Ben's record in the state of Ohio. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:17:24 They, these quarterbacks. We'll find out. Bubba is going west. Search it, Bubba. No. Well, no, because he hasn't played the state of New York. He only plays the Bills and the Jets. The Jets play in New Jersey.
Starting point is 00:17:34 That's a good point. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't want to well act. That was a rebel well action, but I had to. That's a good point. They do play in New Jersey. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So what's, I was just about to figure it out. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Bubba was about to figure it out. Hank just, that would have been tougher. Yeah. I would have loved to see the Google search.
Starting point is 00:17:52 You just wanted to search Tom Brady record in New York or you would have looked at Tom Brady year over year and just added them all up. Tom Brady record against New York teams. Yeah. He got the answer to it at the end of the show. Yeah. He's just a Chinese calculator out there. Abacus.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Was that what it's called? Yeah. What you said was offensive. It's actually oriental. Thanks, Marlins, man. By the way, Marlins, man, we'll get to baseball later, but Marlins, man, he owns, he owns October. He's having fun.
Starting point is 00:18:17 He is Mr. October. All right. We need to get to the other story. Nathan, Peter, man, Nathan, Peter, man comes in, Josh Allen hurts himself. The bills are like the scrappiest team that is not very good. And the Texans are the scrappiest team that should be good. That's kind of sucks. So it was a weird dynamic going on with that game.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Nathan Peter ring comes in, throws a touchdown pass. It's 13, 13. He looks through his coaches. He says, I got this and then throws a horrendous pick six and then the next position throws another interception. Yeah. He's the match job of our generation. It's great.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I do. I mean, every game is just so much more exciting when Nathan Peter, man gets involved because you know what's going to happen. It's just a matter of time. And putting him in there, well, him or Josh Allen behind that offensive line against that Texans, like front seven. Yeah. JJ Watts back.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. That's like just tossing raw meat into like a cave full of pit bulls. And neither one of those two quarterbacks was going to succeed at all. And I'm not surprised what happened with Peter, man, but it's still like, I don't know. I have a thing for Peter, man. I like, I think that they should give Josh Allen a year to learn. He throws a decent spiral because here's the thing. We talk about this sometime.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He does throw a decent spiral and it's interceptable and you, it's very, it's very, it sticks in their hands and you learn more from an interception from a mistake than you do from a success. So eventually Nathan Peter, man is going to be a genius. Yeah. Pretty much. We're just waiting for it. We're waiting for that moment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:46 We're just waiting for the 10 hours of throwing 10,000 interceptions, then, then he'll be good. Yes. He'll finally, it was incredible though. He played like seven minutes of football and he managed two interceptions. That's what, that's what you get with Peter, man. We also had everyone needs to maybe take a step back from the Browns hype or you take the Browns, you take a step back from a Browns hype or are the chargers, chargers for real
Starting point is 00:20:08 because they've won three in a row now. And if you remember, they were my best team to not make the playoffs last year. So they're coming off that year. That's a big thing to come off of. You could build off. You could build off. They have, they have a really good threesome of coaches out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 They got, they got Lynn, who I actually, I don't know if Lynn's good or not. Yeah. No, that sounds good. He did say the standard is a standard. So that's something. Yeah. And then they've got Wizz and Hunt as the offense coordinator and they got Gus Bradley as their defense.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So like two coordinators that, that reached the Peter principle of being elevated to head coach and it's like, no, you guys are, no, you're better at what you were doing. Really good. Just with your shaved head and your goatee, making Pete Carroll get erections on the sideline Gus Bradley. And not talking to people, not talking to any of the players. Yes. Like just, just coach them.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah. So I think hand up for me, I was, I, I need to pump the brakes on the Browns. I believe I said that they would win by 10. Okay. Well, here we go. So you pump the brake on the brakes on the Brown, I'll give you one back. The Jets might be good. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Three in three. Todd Bowles, turn that. Turn it around. Turn it around. Top 10. That's what he does. He's getting up there. Bulls have the most injuries I think any team has ever had in the history of NFL.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And Andrew Luck, it basically has to go out there. How many paths he drew 43 passes today. He's going to break the record for most past attempts off of the shoulder injury that we don't even know if it was a real shoulder injury, if you're just trying to go and do so. I don't know what he was doing. He was trying to be rogue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He was just whatever happened there. Cause we don't still have details. Yeah. He's now going to throw 5,000 times this year. He was trying to hold out until his dad, Oliver Luck had signed him for the XFL. True. In a couple of years. He probably had probably the worst crime against humanity of this century, fake out snow football.
Starting point is 00:21:46 So in the morning. I told you. I told you not to give your hopes up. I figured out where we went wrong. Okay. Cause in the morning they posted a report from the field and it was covered in snow. It was the tarp though. It was misleading.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And I was like, yes, yes. And then I remembered later on that snow melts. That's my problem. I forgot. It was the tarp too. I forgot that snow melted. And it was, it was the biggest case of white. Blue balls.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah. White balls. I told you, I tried to warn you. It was like, we were going to have Christmas morning is like, Hey, it's been a lean year at the warehouse. So I, I don't know if, I don't know if Santa's coming like for that new Huffy and not only to tell you and you're like, where's my new Huffy? It's like, no, you actually have this used bike.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I bought for $10. It's actually just micro machines. Yeah. And it does like, I can't ride on it. Yeah. It's a power wheels that doesn't work. I tried to tell you. And then we got double blue balls on that game because swag Kelly came in for a couple
Starting point is 00:22:38 of plays at the end of the first half. Case Keenum. Whoa. Yeah. Yikes. Is anybody surprised? Actually, I'm not. Do you want to, do you want to do Dunchain?
Starting point is 00:22:47 I might Dunchain the Broncos. That defense gets gashed what, you don't want to Dunchain the Broncos? Did we Dunchain the Texans, by the way? Oh yeah, we did. Fuck. So they won three in a row. But that's okay. And they're tied for the lead in the AMC South.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And but to Sean Watson looks like he's injured. So let's talk Dunchain. Uh, you're Dunchain the Seahawks too, if I remember. Yes. First team that I Dunchain. I feel confident Dunchaining the Broncos. It's almost like we realize how dumb we are constantly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Well, it's also, everything's week to week. Like the Redskins beating the Panthers was a classic NFL thing. Like the Redskins get blown out, the Panthers win a big game. And you're like, no way will the Panthers lose to the Redskins. I say that we Dunchain the Colts. Okay. That's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 The Colts are done. Put it around their stick. Broncos, you are, you're, you're facing it. You're lingering. You are. Yeah. I'm eyeing you up. The Broncos.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yeah. The Broncos are window shopping. They're like five. Looking at my chain. All right. And then let's talk about the other AFC West game, the chief's Patriots game, which was awesome. It was a big 12 game, broke out 43, 40.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It was amazing. Neither team could stop. I mean, Mohamed was just kind of shaking the first half, but he turned it on the second half. The chief's defense though, if you score 40 points to the NFL and you lose, that's impressive. That's an impressive thing to do. Their defense is so, so bad. I like how their third down defense was number one in the league going into tonight because
Starting point is 00:24:09 they would get huge, they would get huge leads on other teams. And so other teams would be throwing the ball a lot in the second half. And when it was third down, it was like third down and 10. Oh, I thought their third down defense was the best because the other team would just never get to third down. Right. Because they just, the chief just gets the first down on first or second down. That's true too.
Starting point is 00:24:27 But I think, I don't know, I'll have to have our stats department look down on our player. Our Cracks stats department. Let me know who's right about that one. Yeah. The Patriots offense too, by the way, is borderline unfair now that Josh Gordon is like seamlessly in there and Edelman's back. Yeah. Well, and they got this tight end that he reminds me a little bit of Travis Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Oh, whoa, Jinx. Yeah. Isn't that weird? That's crazy. He is, this is like the new type of tight end like Travis Kelsey is a matchup nightmare. He runs like a deer. He's big, but he's fast. And now the Patriots got a guy like that too.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And you have to game plan for Travis Kelsey. Yeah. He's a chess piece mismatch. You got to like, what's the guy on the Patriots thing? Here's the thing about Travis Kelsey is he's too big to be covered by a corner. Yep. Or a safety. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:09 But too fast. He's also too fast to be covered by a linebacker. Linebacker. Yep. So it's like, what do you do with Travis Kelsey? Yeah. So what's the guy on the Patriots thing? James Devlin.
Starting point is 00:25:17 James Devlin. Yeah. Man, that guy had a nightmare. There's nothing that can trigger Hank or Patriots fan more than just saying, okay, it's actually, I think. No, you guys, it's Chris. Collinsworth. Collinsworth says it every time.
Starting point is 00:25:26 That's like, I think they do that on purpose. Right. So Rob Gronkowski is head and shoulders ahead of Travis Kelsey. It's not even in the competition, but it is hilarious listening to Chris Collinsworth sell that. He's going to do it again next Sunday night. Which they're on. I mean, Whitton was doing it too.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah. He was. He's the best tight end in the league. You guys realize that Rob Gronkowski is actually the greatest tight end in the history of the game. Yeah. Like he actually is. He really is.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's not, it's kind of not even a debate. Well, Kelsey would be talked about in that same era if he didn't play with Gronkowski. True. Yeah. True. He got fucked there. Yeah. The shit head gets thrown around a lot these days.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Travis Kelsey is just a shit head. Yeah. He's an endearing shit head. He is. But he's a shit head. I like him. I thought I'd like him. He's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I could see how he could be a shit head. Yeah. He wears earrings. When the guys wear earrings, I'm like, yeah, that guy could be a shit head. He does. That's pretty much all I have on that. And then speaking of Monday night, we got the Packers and who are the Packers hosting tonight?
Starting point is 00:26:21 CJ Bethard. That's right. Packers and the Niners tonight. Bethard. Bethard is, this is our first time seeing Booger in his Booger Mobile, the Snot Rocket, in some freezing temperatures. Yes. So he's going to be bundled up.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He's going to have blankets on blankets on blankets. He's going to be cold. He's going to have like three or four like thermoses and they're going to talk about how he's staying. Well, this is chicken soup. You might have a little heater. Space heater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Yeah. He's going to have, that's going to be a fire hazard. I might actually call that in. Yeah. I just feel like, listen, Green Bay. Although in Green Bay, they tailgate at cast stations. Yeah. They didn't really fire.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Booger might just be drunk. Yeah. For this game. Do you see Mike McCarthy? They asked him about the game. They're like, what do you do? How do you plan differently for cold weather? He's like 30 degrees isn't cold weather.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Yeah. Actually, that's kind of a good point. Yeah. In Green Bay, that's still pretty warm. Uh, and then any other games? I don't think we had any other games. Oh, uh, the Cowboys won a game, whatever. Uh, should we talk a little college football before we get to our football guy the week?
Starting point is 00:27:18 Well, preemptive who's back. I think we're all going to say it. LSU is back. LSU. Yeah. That was, so the Badgers being shit, they got the shit pumped in Ann Arbor and then the Bears lost in embarrassing fashion to Brock, Brock, Tobar, Brock, what are we calling them?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Brock and chip. Leo Dubrock. Leo Dubrock. It's attacking Bears. Uh, the one silver lining is I think I'm just going to like become a full on Cajun LSU fan. Yeah. Until they lose to Alabama.
Starting point is 00:27:47 That would suck. Dude. No, I go into that game by the way. So going into this weekend. I was looking ahead on the schedule at that Alabama game and I was, you know, I don't do that. What the fuck? Listen, I had to.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Very unfootballed. I had to peek. Um, and I was thinking that LSU would get beat by, you know, 20, 30, because Alabama is just, they are a wagon. Yes. And they brought back Dixieland delight, which was an awesome, but now to is hurt possibly injured and LSU is playing neck again, which is the greatest. There is nothing better.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And we've never been to an LSU game. We're very excited for our first LSU death valley experience hangs, bend to a game, but there is something so special about LSU beating a team and then all the fans saying suck this tiger dick bitch. That is, that's like all time and, and, and, and I like how also it took, it took like until like two years ago for LSU administration to be like, it's too, it's too vulgar. Yeah. We need to suck that tiger dick bitch.
Starting point is 00:28:46 They made the band, they made the band stop playing it and then the fans would just start singing it no matter what song was playing. Yeah. They would like take whatever song was playing and turn into like suck that. It actually kind of makes it's very versatile. Give Hank name any song that well that I would know you're going to say something by like odd futures or something. It actually makes Alabama look like kind of kind of pussies because they banned Dixieland
Starting point is 00:29:08 delight because they said fuck Auburn and they changed it to beat Auburn delight. So suck that tiger dick bitch. But no, they did, they changed it to, they did like a whole, the administrator and mystery did a video being like, please be nice and don't say fuck Auburn and say beat Auburn. So they Pete, they made a huge like, they made the whole song PG and meanwhile in Death Valley, they're still singing suck that tiger dick bitch. Hold her up tight. Suck the tiger dick bitch.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Roll time. We had also Penn State loss, West Virginia loss. That sucks. Yeah. I'm Coach Holgerson. I love you. I love you. You're gonna be heavily on them and Georgia losses.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Four, I think it was four out of the top eight. So we're getting that part of the season in college football where it's just kind of like a people every single weekend. And then it'll be Alabama, Ohio state Clemson and like Georgia. And then there was that West coast PAC 12 game that only people that went to those PAC 12 schools really paid close attention to Jenner Gambo's. They up til… No, the Oregon game.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Oh yes. That was an awesome game. It was an awesome game and everyone was talking about. Oh, that's cute. You got to go to PAC 12 game. That's so cool. team that lost Washington. So Oregon, Oregon is going to have one of those classic seasons where they could be in the conversation for the final four, except for a Stanford game
Starting point is 00:30:27 where they couldn't finish. It's like that. Oh, I remember that was my game. That was your game. That was your game. And then, uh, what's going on in Nebraska? That's the other thing who's got frost. Somebody put out an article saying fire. Yeah. Somebody put out an article saying this is the cash implications that would come into play to buy out. They're not going to fire. I mean, he took people forget UCF was 0 and 12 and he still hasn't lost and he took them to 13 and 0. But should we ask that question? Because Scott Frost no longer at UCF. They are still undefeated this year. Is it a system school?
Starting point is 00:31:00 Hmm. Interesting. So yeah, Scott Frost, I don't know what you do because like obviously year one, like, okay, but even Chip Kelly out in UCLA is getting some, I think they won this past weekend. They beat Cal. Yeah. So like you can see Chip Kelly can, he has no talent and he's like pulling rabbits out of his hat. Scott Frost can't even beat Northwestern. You could make the argument. The first one's pretty good actually. Yeah, they are pretty good. You could make the argument with Scott Frost though that they're close to winning a lot of games.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And then they're winning. Oh, that's a good argument. Then they're a one or two game. Well, I mean, Chip Kelly was getting his ass kicked for, you know, most of the season, but they're like one or two small mistakes away. Their quarterback got injured or like, I don't know, for whatever reason, I'm still buying Scott Frost. Yeah. I'm not going to overreact to Owens, but worse, worst start in Nebraska history. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 I like it. Yeah. And Akron, that one game. Bring the steroids back. Akron game that they got, they got rained out where they needed that win. They needed that. Remember that article we read where the guy was like, why don't they just give us the win? We need it more than them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's, it turns out you do. It turns out you do. All right. Let's do a football guy of the week. Okay. Yeah. What do you got? No, we're going to talk about baseball. Oh yeah. Yeah. We're going to talk about baseball later. Football guy of the week. So we have this week, remember to vote at part of my take.
Starting point is 00:32:14 We have this week, uh, LSU defensive end, Bradel, I'm screwing up his name, Cahoko. So he did, and we also have the LSU tight end. So you'll tell us about the LSU tight end, but Braden Cahoko, he did the Haka before the game with his dad. And I think it was his brother. And I don't know what it is about the Haka, but it is like, it makes me so excited just to watch people do it. Like it is the ultimate pump up experience. And I had nothing to do with it. Normally I would be opposed to a team doing a celebration dance before a game before they even score any points, but the Haka is totally different. The Haka is, it's infectious. You're
Starting point is 00:32:53 sounding like a rugby guy now. It's adrenaline. Yeah. Yeah. It's awesome. And, and they ended like sticking their tongue out. Yeah. Yeah. We, you know what? We need to bring back sticking your tongue out at somebody.
Starting point is 00:33:03 We need to do the pre game. We need to learn the Haka and start doing it pre podcast. Okay. That was, we'll actually learn how to do it for real because we don't want to be culturally insensitive. So, so that was one LSU guy that's not made from football guy the week. We're combining two of them. Yes. And to one LSU category. The other is LSU Titan Foster Moreau. So this is from Bruce Feldman.
Starting point is 00:33:28 He said, this is a guy who took 15 stitches in his face after a cable popped in the weight room on a lat pull down. Whoa. He said, he had a surgery on Monday. Never missed a single rep of practice either. Hashtag stud. Whoa. That's, that's quite a hashtag, by the way. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Stud. Don't click on, don't search that one. Well, it's probably a lot of horses I'd imagine. Yeah. Having sex. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So, but yeah, that's, that's, that is a football guy. So you can vote for both those LSU guys together. Uh, we have the temple coach at halftime against Navy. He essentially did his own, uh, it was essentially his own Oklahoma drill, just standing there, just, just challenging people one on one. When he had no pads, this is also the guy who I called them out because he was, it looked like he was wearing Capris earlier in the season. That's just because his calves were too big.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah. So this was an, this was a great move though. If you want to get the, if you want to get the guys fired up, just start going one on one against a bunch of 21 year old Jack dudes in full pads while you're just in your coaches. If any one of you, some bitches can whip me, I'll let you coach the team. Second half. There you go. We have Greg Williams, defensive coordinator for the Cleveland Browns. They brought up the
Starting point is 00:34:33 rally possum and he said, well shit, we used to eat that when I was a kid. So he ate opossums as a child. Uh huh. That's, that's pretty football guy. That's also very Greg Williams. And did you see, that's probably why he's got the skunk here. That's right. I'll tell you like cousins. Yeah. A possum and a skunk.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah. They're related. They don't talk, but they're related. Right. They know each other around these parts. Yeah. They, they're feuding right now. Um, but then did you see what Sean Payton said in his response to that story? Sean Payton replied to it and said, yeah, I bet he ate possums or rats. Oh, interesting. Yeah. So when I saw that, I was like, you know what, you know what, if this was NBA Twitter, this would be like the, oh, the, oh my God, this is the best Twitter ever. John B, do
Starting point is 00:35:18 you see he drinks early? Table's so cold. If you had, if you had one coach calling his former assistant coach out for being a rat, rat, use the R word. He was, and here's a little thing. Here's a little behind the scenes thing. One time me and big cat were playing blackjack in Detroit as so many great stories and, you know, we're talking with a dealer, talking with a dealer and he pulls a 21 out of his
Starting point is 00:35:42 ass and big cat goes, I was a rat move and he stopped, he stopped dealing and he just stared at big cat and you're like, I, I didn't say you were a rat. I was a rat move. And he said, you don't use the word rat to me and he looked like he was going to kill him. So the, the word rat, people take offense. This is bad. I do like to say that at a blackjack table.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I say that's a rat move. It is. Yeah. And I, and I'd use that exact same technicality, technicality. It's a loophole. I did not call you a rat. Yeah. It's a rat move.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yep. Uh, we finally have Ted Rath, the strength and conditioning coach for the LA Rams. It was 20 degrees in Denver and he wore short sleeves on the sidelines for the entire game. Yeah. No need to do that. This was a football guy move or if this was a Calabro move where Calabros go on vacation somewhere and they assume that every place else has perfect weather so they don't pack
Starting point is 00:36:35 long sleeves. Yeah. It could have been one or the other. I'm not sure. Or he could have just been trying to instill like confidence into his team like, Hey, listen guys, it's not that bad. Yeah. It was a tarp that was on the field earlier.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yeah. And they took it off so the snow's not there anymore. He got tricked. He was very excited. Yeah. If you looked at his Twitter, it's, it's very sad to watch his, to watch his meltdown happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 But by the way, shout out to Eric Goff. Happy birthday. Yeah. Happy birthday. 6 and 0. Last quarterback with an undefeated team. Not a big deal. Eric Dickerson, or not Eric Dickerson, Mercury Morris is, he's got his eyes on the Rams
Starting point is 00:37:06 now. Hmm. Pop that champagne bottle. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. Let's do who's back and then we'll get to Mike Florio. Hank, you start.
Starting point is 00:37:15 My who's back. I had neck and Dixieland Delight, but since we already talked about that. Oh, we talked about it. I'm going to go with the Drake and push a T beef. Oh, do tell. It's back. Very interesting. So when was it?
Starting point is 00:37:27 When did it first start? It started in the summer. Who? Wait. Is this the one where the guy said that Drake has a secret child? Yes. Got it. And then Drake didn't respond.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He took the high road. When they go low, we go high. Yeah. So then decided to respond on LeBron James's, uh, the shop, Barbershop show. Oh, he's sub tweeting him on a TV show. Yeah. He's sub showing him. So he's making push a T by HBO.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Pretty much. That's fucked up. That's very fucked up. All the clips were on social. Yeah. But that's still fucked up. He's making push a T get an internet subscription. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 But he basically said it wasn't too far when he talked about his kid or his baby mom or whatever. Oh, so he admits he has a kid. Yes. Got it. But it was too far when he talked about his friend who was sick. That's that. That was the line that he drew in the sand.
Starting point is 00:38:08 He said, that was fucked up. You deserve what's coming to you. And so now, now it's back. Whoa. What does that mean? Not a threat. Not a threat. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Not a threat. So hold on. Let me follow this real quick. He said this on LeBron show. Yep. If something happens to push a T, God forbid. Yes. God forbid.
Starting point is 00:38:26 If something happens to push a T, would LeBron James be an accessory to a murder? He would be culpable. He would absolutely. And the eyes of the law, he would be a, yes, he would be a conspirator. Wow. This is actually, you know what? Wow. This is LeBron James entire barbershop now up for a Rico investigation.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And thanks to the internet, Drake in the video LeBron was talking about how he was talking him through the like controversy during the time, like what to do, what to say, blah, blah, blah. He went back and found videos from LeBron's Instagram of him working out to push a T's album. Oh. Fake friend. So LeBron is a fake friend.
Starting point is 00:39:00 No new friends. Who says no new friends? Drake. Drake. Wow. I'm putting it all together here. Damn. I, God forbid.
Starting point is 00:39:08 LeBron would have to go to jail. Kind of sucks for Drake that LeBron James is a kind of guy that would just like be friends with and root for whoever was hide at the moment. Interesting. Interesting. You really got to feel for Drake. All the way. Hank, what was that?
Starting point is 00:39:22 You sent us this, uh, stay woke. I'm going to read it. Actually. The, uh, the LeBron stay woke that he's a new next Steve jobs. Is that right? I would say it's a stay woke. It's more of just a, it's a take. It's a take.
Starting point is 00:39:33 It is a take. It is a take. All right. I got it. Here's a hot take. LeBron is a new Steve jobs from films and TV shows to educational institutions, A and R and via his IG, which is just, which is him listening to music to interviewing artists that don't do interviews.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That's all that is. James is using his magnitude to invade industries and redirect the conversation. Hey, but the Lakers may, he also is doing the thing with Rondo, which was really cool. Did you see that PFT? The snap? Yeah. That was awesome. That was one of the coolest inventions.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I've never seen. Yeah. That actually now that I'm thinking about, he is a new Steve jobs. He invented a new way to start a game by passing it underneath his legs to run. He thought different. Yeah. That was very good. What do you think, Hank?
Starting point is 00:40:15 It's great. All right. My who's back. KG might not ever talk. I got two. I got two who's backs. It's KG say anything? Not yet.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Not that I've seen. Oh, he's doing. My first is Ray Carruth. So they're letting him out of jail. Still not suspended by the NFL. And my second. Oh, and there's also like a serial podcast coming out about it. Oh, about Ray Carruth.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yes. Yes. Not to plug another podcast. Yeah. Please don't do that. I'll just spoof it. My second download this. All of that podcast on this podcast at a later date.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yeah. Right now the podcasting world is a wild west, baby. There are no laws. We just start sampling. That's what it's called. Yeah. We'll play the best. On off days.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yeah. We'll play the best of all the other podcasts. On Tuesdays and Thursdays. Just Joe Rogan feed. Yeah. Joe Rogan and Dana White just smoking bonks together and talking about the universe. All right. My second who's back of the week is treating Eli Manning like he's a baby.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So Matt Hasselbeck said this morning that the Giants should trade him to Jacksonville and like put him in a place because the Giants are in such a bad position right now. You know, they're rebuilding and it would be the right thing to do to send Eli Manning to a place where he has a chance to win a Super Bowl. So it's like, yes. Oh, wow. Yeah. We really feel bad for Eli Manning.
Starting point is 00:41:28 But this happens every couple of years. Like it happened last year when he got benched. At the time it was like, yeah, it's kind of weird time to bench him. But it happens a lot. Eli Manning is just like, they treat him like he's like a golden retriever. And you're keeping him in your apartment and it's too small for him. And you're like, we need to send him to a nice farm where he's got room to run around and play.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah. Or one of those crazy people who keeps their TV on for their dog while they leave. Yeah. Wow. We want him to have something to do. Yeah. The dog does not fucking watch TV. The dog deserves to not live in this apartment anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:58 But Eli Manning, he's more like an old house cat that just coughs up hairballs and shits himself all the time. Put it down. Yeah. Put it down. By the way, the Eli Manning thing, and we're going to get into more of it with Mike Flio. How funny is it that like Ben McAdoo-Doo was the only guy man enough to stand up to Eli Manning?
Starting point is 00:42:17 In all this shit. Like Ben, Ben McAdooby, like he's the only guy who says, you know what, I'm not going to be pushed around by the Manning family. And then he got fired. I think he was still, he was so enthralled with his like eight play cards a game that he didn't have time to like worry about things like respect. I miss that guy. I do miss.
Starting point is 00:42:33 What's he doing? He's probably, he's definitely, yeah, he's playing board games at a very high level somewhere. Here comes our stats department going, our practice stats department. All right. My who's back. I actually, I had two as well. Tax day was one.
Starting point is 00:42:45 So everyone remember to do your taxes unless you're like Hank, he did them last year. You're good. Yup. And then my second one is. Start of fall means to start of a new year. That's a fact. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Sure. I think it's January. I'm sure the IRS will concur. It's humans having one up a hand up on robots. If you saw the only win that the badgers got on Saturday was Bucky the badger just pointing at the stupid fucking robot on game day and give him the hezzy crossover and the robot just fell over. So I need these every now and then to have these moments where it's like, yeah, we can
Starting point is 00:43:19 still beat these robots. Yeah. In basketball. In anything. We can definitely be in a basketball, but did you see the other robot that was in box jumps last week? No. I do not want to see that.
Starting point is 00:43:29 They've turned JJ Watt into a robot. Yeah. So an Instagram thought to Raj is now a robot. Yeah. He was like doing wind sprints and box jumps. Slow mo? Not slow. Don't talk to me until he does slow mo.
Starting point is 00:43:39 They've got a lot to learn and there was no hashtagging of rising grinds. Was he running? Was he running routes against no one and being like, look at this speed work? He was not, but he was listening to Fort Minor. Okay. Well, then we're fucked. Ben Magdu is living between St. Augustine and Daytona on the east coast of Florida. I'm sure he is.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Where's Ben Macadoo? Ben Macadoo. Ben Macadoo. What did I say? He's a Ben Macadoo. Macadoo. Ben Macadoo. Wait.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Where is he living? He is living in a spa between St. Augustine and Daytona on the east coast of Florida. Where's this report? It's a really good general area. New York Post.com. I kind of like that. Yeah. He's just out there.
Starting point is 00:44:17 He's probably got a fishing boat. Planting July on the beach. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to medieval times occasionally. Okay. He probably has season tickets to medieval times. He's getting paid by the giants.
Starting point is 00:44:25 We'll set out the 2018 season. Yeah. He's going to get back on the coaching carousel in 2019. And he will because that's how the NFL works. All right. Let's get to Mike Florio. Before we do that, a quick word, Frank's Red Hot. You need Frank's Red Hot in your life.
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Starting point is 00:46:07 Here he is. The shortest man in all of the TV world, Mike Florio. Okay. We now welcome on our favorite NFL Insider. Everyone's favorite in NFL Insider. He is Mike Florio. He is a pro football talk. You can watch him every single morning.
Starting point is 00:46:25 You can see him on Sunday night. You can listen to his podcast. He's everywhere. He never stops working. Hardest working man in show business. Mike, let's start with our favorite NFL Insiders. Do you guys? No, it's just you.
Starting point is 00:46:40 It's just you. When was the last time you took a two day break? Never. I haven't taken a day off since January 1, 2004. True story. I decided then if I'm ever going to make my business pro football talk.com into what it could be, I could never take a day off and I never have. That's a lie.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Who knows? Maybe one day it'll become a big website. It's the truth. When we were at your house like a year ago, you did not work. You grilled and we hung out. We watched. No. No.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You got there late afternoon. I worked until you guys got there. You were drunk in a shed when we got there. Okay. Yeah. Your underpants. That doesn't stop me from working. And then I worked.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And that also doesn't stop me from working. And then I worked after you guys left the next morning when you re-gifted that Pepsi helmet. That's true. We left it intentionally. So let's get to some football, Mike. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Let's do it. I wanted to start with my favorite story, our favorite story. What do the Raiders do with John Gruden and a follow-up is the Amari Cooper stuff for real? Well, I mean, they're stuck with John Gruden now. Whether or not he's guaranteed a hundred million dollars over 10 years, I think is debatable and I don't think that much of it is truly guaranteed. But they're into this guy for at least four or five years.
Starting point is 00:47:50 They're not going to run him off. They're moving to Las Vegas soon. And I think John Gruden can convince the owner of the team, Mark Davis, that the cover is more bare than it is full. I think the real question is, what do they do with Derek Carr next year? Because even though he's got that big contract, they get on the load him at a manageable cap hit if they decide that John Gruden needs a different quarterback. And the stuff with the Amari Cooper, who really knows?
Starting point is 00:48:13 I mean, Gruden denied after the game today that they're shopping Amari Cooper, but didn't he deny they were shopping Khalil Mack? And then the next thing you know, Khalil Mack's traded. So I don't rule anything out with a team that maybe can look at a guy that they're going to have to pay big money to like Cooper and ask himself, do we want to pay that big money? Or do we want to flip him for draft picks? Wait. So you really think they might, they might move on from Derek Carr?
Starting point is 00:48:33 John Gruden might just be like, this isn't my guy. Well, I don't know. I look, the thing with, with Carr, like every week Gruden takes some sort of a backhanded shot at him. And then on the one occasion that they, they actually emerged with a victory. They got all pissy about the people who take the things that Gruden says and interprets them to mean that he's not happy with, with Derek Carr. And one of the things Chris Sims says about John Gruden, because he played for him in
Starting point is 00:49:00 Tampa for several years, he treats the offense like a Ferrari and he gives you the keys and he doesn't want you to scratch it. If you scratch it, you get pissed off and Carr's been scratching the hell out of that thing this year. So I don't know, you know, Gruden inherited Carr. And if Gruden decides there's another way to go, it's not impossible. In fact, it's easier than you think to get out from under Carr's contract. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Okay. You know, a lot of times a team is stuck with a guy with a big contract. The Raiders are by no means stuck with Carr and Gruden, Gruden gonna have the flexibility to look around if he wants to. He strikes me as a guy that would absolutely get rid of his high paid quarterback and bring in like six veterans who are all over the age of like 33. Yeah. But that's what he likes.
Starting point is 00:49:40 And he likes an older guy that is going to do what he says and figure it out and he's not going to have to teach him. He doesn't want to have to groom a young guy. And you know, I mean, I'm just spitballing here, but what about like a Ryan Fitzpatrick? Wouldn't that be a perfect Gruden quarterback? Oh, yes. Nothing says Las Vegas like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Let's do it. I liked the Ferrari analogy because you even had Derek Carr crying on the field today. Like he has to go home and tell his dad that he scratched up the Ferrari. That he wrapped. Well, yeah. Also cause. Oh my God. His name's Carr.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Like a little kid that like got sent to his room. Yeah. That was just really bizarre. Well, you had to go back to the sideline and face John Gruden. So I cried too. So along those lines are, are the Seahawks back or is Oakland just that bad? I think it's still too early to tell. I mean, look, the Seahawks got beat by the Rams last week at home and they fell way behind
Starting point is 00:50:29 in the division. And I think they just have to scratch the ball for a wildcard burst. And what's that really mean? You get a wildcard burst and you got to start going on the road. I don't think they're good enough to win in the playoffs. I think if they get the playoffs at the huge accomplishment too early to declare them back, I just think the Raiders are done. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah. I'm changed. Moving on to another situation where we don't know what's going to happen with the future of the franchise quarterback, the Giants and Eli Manning. What the hell do they do? He is the worst quarterback in the league in terms of like a tenured guy. I'm not talking about filling guys or backup guys. He's at the end of his, you know, his great career, but are the Giants, what are they
Starting point is 00:51:07 going to do? Are they going to play out the stretch with Eli Manning? It sure looks like it. I mean, I think they're stuck with the way they mishandled it last year when Ben Maccadoo decided to abruptly bench Eli Manning for Geno Smith and they did a bad job of just getting the word out there. There are ways you can kind of work the media and just get the idea introduced into the stream of consciousness that maybe that change is going to be made.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I mean, it was all too sudden, it was all too quick and it was all too jarring for a fan base that loves Eli Manning. And I think that that makes it harder for them to separate from him now. So after the year, look, if they finish with the worst record in football and they get the first overall pick in the draft, then you have to move on. They own money. They own money. They own money next year.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah, but at some point, at some point, you just have to write it off and move on, right? I mean, you just have to. And the question is, will Eli Manning want to keep playing? I mean, at a certain point, don't you just say, this is no longer for me? Like how stubborn do you have to be to keep playing when you clearly don't have it anymore? And the one question I have, and I'm not defending Eli Manning by any means here, I got a ton of respect for him, but I don't know that he'd get any real blocking. Now, that means you got to get rid of the ball faster and he's just not doing it.
Starting point is 00:52:19 But Thursday night, I mean, it was just like he was running away from guys all night instead of setting it up and trying to get something done. Would you dispute, though, that he has the best handoff in football? Oh, it's a great handoff. I mean, Sequan was great, but that's not all on Sequan. That's a little bit Eli's, too. But you know what, and here's the thing, I don't want to get all X's and O's on this, but you got a guy like Sequan Barclay who can do so much for you.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And I don't feel like they're designing their offense around Sequan Barclay like Cowboys do around Ezekiel. Like why aren't they running this guy, running this guy, running this guy, trying to draw safety up and then throw the ball, play action over the top? You don't sense they're doing that. They should be treating Sequan Barclay like the Cowboys treat Eli like the Vikings treat Adrian Peterson. The offense goes through this guy instead of him just being, you know, a piece in a
Starting point is 00:53:05 bigger puzzle, because the rest of the puzzle is crap. And I feel like if they refocus their offensive strategy, they still have a chance to try to win some games. They may burn out Barclay in the process, but when you have a guy that good, I think you need to make him the centerpiece of your offense. All right. Last question about the Giants. Is there any way you could see the Giants trying to shop Odell Beckham?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Because this feels like he just signed this huge deal. He's already complaining. I get that most wide receivers are the best wide receivers, you know, in the National Football League, you'll see some guys who are maybe, you know, I don't know, march to the beat of their own drummer, have the theatrics, whatnot. But Odell, it seems like he's now starting to take away from the team going into the locker room early. And we saw that, you know, when Randy Moss did that with the Vikings, that was kind of
Starting point is 00:53:49 the end for him. So that kind of stuff is always not looking good. Do you see any way the Giants try to shop them? Here's what I'd have to do. I have to look at the specific cap consequence, but they just signed with that contract. I think you got a $20 million signing bonus, you got other guaranteed money. And I think it would be a cap charge that would be too much to digest this year. Off season, maybe a different story.
Starting point is 00:54:13 But I think it kind of stuck with this guy. I don't think they know what to do. You know, they had concerns about giving him a bunch of money that he was not going to respond the way that they thought, the way that they hoped, and look at how he's responded. I mean, he says those things to ESPN last week, and then he apologizes, and he says he doesn't need to apologize. And who knows whether he's going to be the guy that they need him to be from an attitude standpoint.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And Rodney Harrison made a great point last week. He said that there needs to be somebody in that organization that holds them accountable. And no one does. And until they have someone that can hold them accountable, they're going to have these issues and they have to ask themselves, can they find somebody to do it? And I'm not saying they go one and done with Pat Shermer, but you're going to have somebody in that organization that can get through to Otto Beckham Jr. or he's going to drag you down until you finally can trade him.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I would just sign Steve Smith Sr. just to be in that locker room next to him and yell at him when he does something messed up. Or punch him in the face. Yeah, well, okay. He's done it a couple of times. Allegedly. Allegedly. Well, what about, can they cut him for a cause and not have to pay him if he keeps damaging
Starting point is 00:55:11 company property on the sidelines? No, I think that they still have CapCons. I don't know that there's ever been a bonus for, but you're arising from head butting a cooling fan. Okay. That would be new precedent. So I want to talk to you about the big game that everyone's talking about and that was the Bears Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Did Brock Iswell, Isweiler just earn himself another like one year, $18 million deal from this performance? Oh, he's going to sign him next year, right? Maybe the Giants sign him next year. Oh, and the only place that he works is in Miami where he knows the offense. I talked to Adam Gase after the game. I mean, he found out this morning that Ryan Tannehill wasn't going to be able to go and he texted Osweiler, you're the guy because he knows the offense inside now.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And I think for the Bears, like all of a sudden it becomes one of those games where we got to show up and win, right? Go ahead, Mike. You love bashing the Bears. Go ahead. Go ahead. I love bashing the Bears. You love bashing the Bears.
Starting point is 00:56:09 I thought it was an easy win for the Bears, but I think the Bears, you got 14 days to get ready for it. Yeah. You're ready for Tannehill. All we got to do is show up and win. Hey, what about your quarterback? Kirk Cousins looked like he was on drugs when he celebrated that touchdown. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Want to talk about that? The drug of Christ. Yeah. Want to talk about that? That was disgusting. Yeah, I don't know what that was. Yeah, that was disgusting. All right, Mike.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I want to follow up on the Tannehill thing because like a quarterback with an AC injury, that's like, I don't know why it came up out of like a last second thing, but is that something that's going to affect the Dolphins for the next like several weeks? Because I could see it being like a month. Yeah. They are very tight-lipped about Tannehill's status. And it was weird. Let me tell you, it was weird what happened because he's questionable on Friday.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And then at some point between Friday and Sunday morning, he can't play. And I asked the league about this, not that I'm trying to be a narc, but it seems like they're getting more lax about the injury reporting. And I think you need to be going the other way now that gambling is becoming more widespread. You can't allow these irregularities. Like last week, the Raiders Collegio Semile was questionable when he didn't travel to LA to play the Chargers and they never downgraded him to out. Just little things like that, that used to be a given.
Starting point is 00:57:25 I don't know why Tannehill wasn't downgraded to at least doubtful at some point this weekend. And I asked the league about it, and the league isn't saying anything about it because I think they just prefer not to talk about it. But it's something to keep an eye on because as gambling grows, more and more people are going to be paying attention to those injury reports. And I just feel like teams are taking liberties with it in the history. They never did. But I think it's worse in the history of wet blankets.
Starting point is 00:57:47 No wet blanket has ever started the sentence not to be a narc and come out like looking good. You are a narc. You're a narc. Well, right. But you know what? If I didn't say that, then you guys would have started going narc, narc, narc. So I need to start with that. My favorite movie. Are you? Are you not a knock? Mike Florio's spot is brought to you by fan dual fan dual dot com slash PMT. I had a huge week because I started Todd Gurley.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Mike, who would you be your big start if you were putting out your fan dual lineup? Wait a minute. You did spot sponsored by a fan dual and I'll get a check for it. Is that what you're telling me? No, no, no, no, you don't. But you have to this week. It's integrated ads. So who would you start? Who'd be your big start this week? Wait a minute. And the response is going to be nobody gives a shit. No, it's a this is an ad.
Starting point is 00:58:29 We can't like I'm not going to. So you actually don't trash fantasy. No, no, no, it's daily. It's daily. I'm not going to trash because it's an ad, but I need we ask our guests. Like, who would you start? Yeah. So what's the question again? So who would be your big start next weekend?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Next weekend? I haven't even thought about your big start today. Then my big start today. I heck, I don't always. James, what? No one gives a shit. Might it might come on. You fell for it. I'm not sponsored. It's not even sponsored by a fan dual.
Starting point is 00:58:59 That's the first fake ad in history. You should have seen it. You should have seen PMP and Hank's face when I did that ad. They're like, what the hell? That's not an ad. I mean, you've gotten too smart. So I had to think. I got to give it credit. You guys have been trying the same way
Starting point is 00:59:16 to get me to talk about my fantasy team for like eight months now. And it's about time you change this. Wow, you have. You're sitting James on your bench. That's actually kind of problematic. Yeah. No, but I'm saying the last four weeks, you had James on your bench. Your team must stink.
Starting point is 00:59:32 I know I've been squatting on James. I've been squatting on James in both of them. So what's your team's record then? Don, you don't care. You're not getting it twice. What's your team record sponsored by Fandall? Yeah, I have. I want you to be able to defend yourself
Starting point is 00:59:47 because I saw you going on Twitter today and getting in the mud a little there. Carson Wentz is damaged goods. That was a Mike Florio quote. Please, please defend yourself. I was on WIP a week and a half ago and they posed this question maybe between Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff
Starting point is 01:00:04 and Carson Wentz. How would you rank them right now? How would you want them? And I said, Mahomes, then Goff, then Wentz because Wentz is damaged goods. And then you got the torn ACL in a place with reckless abandon. He's going to get hurt again.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You know that the way he got his knee torn up last year was on a head first dive into the goal line and he dove that same way on Thursday night. He's going to get himself hurt again. That's just the way it is. Eagles fans don't like hearing it, but it's the truth. One last question for me. I was reading a book, Choker,
Starting point is 01:00:31 but I read the first, I read the first 15 pages of a book and it reminded me of your little spat that you had with Adam Schefter and many of the haters and losers last year when you said that Josh McDaniels was having second thoughts about joining the Colts. Has Adam ever apologized to you for that? Oh, what did you do?
Starting point is 01:00:51 Did you get to page 41 of Mark Leibovitch's book? I did, yeah, yeah. Let me tell you, that's a really good book and you guys should get Leibovitch on. We will, we'll have him on. He's good. Yeah, no, of course he doesn't like me. That's, you know, don't start,
Starting point is 01:01:06 let's not start down that path. Okay, you're, I mean, you are, you do get, you have people that don't like you, but we always got your back. Hey, listen, listen, I mean, I'm not in this business to make friends, although I'm happy that I've made friends in the two of you.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yes, that's fair. Isn't that touching? That's fair, that's very fair. So this actually is a real ad part of the show. The Seeky question, you get a put in promo code TAKE and you get $10 off your Seeky question. I went to the big house on Saturday night, watched the Badgers get absolutely steamrolled,
Starting point is 01:01:32 but it was nice because Seeky cooked us up. You can do it with Seeky, put in promo code TAKE. This is officially Levy on Bell week. So how is this all gonna play out? Well, you know, I reported tonight on football night in America on NBC that the Steelers still haven't heard anything from Levy on Bell.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And this is the week he's supposed to show up. And here's the one wrinkle that nobody is talking about. And you know, I say that kind of tongue in cheek because we always hate when somebody says, hey, nobody's talking about this, but this is actually true. Nobody's talking about this one. He shows up and he says,
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'm ready to sign the franchise tender. If the Steelers are gonna use a two week roster exemption and they'll have the ability to ask for that, they have to agree with Bell on how much they're gonna pay him while he's on roster exemption before he signs the franchise tender. And they may say, hey, Levy on, you're gonna be getting in shape for the next two weeks.
Starting point is 01:02:20 We're not paying you $855,000 a week. We wanna pay you 300 or 350 or 400, whatever it is. And if they don't reach an agreement and he doesn't sign the tender, this thing continues. That's the one factor that never gets discussed except right now. So you guys can claim credit for having the only podcast that is addressing that wrinkle.
Starting point is 01:02:38 And so he could show up. They haven't heard from him. He could show up and he could say I'm ready to sign. And they say, well, you know, we only wanna pay you 300 grand when you're on roster exemption. He says, go to hell and he walks right out the door. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Well, how much are they really missing him? I mean, I know Connor's filling in. He's doing okay. But what does Levy, what would he bring to the offense that it's missing right now? Well, that's right. They're doing well with James Connor.
Starting point is 01:03:00 So you could argue that he's more trouble than he's worth because he's gonna be worried about getting injured. He's gonna worry about getting overused. And I think that the Steelers are considering all their options with Levy on Bell. And I still don't rule out the possibility of them trading him as soon as he comes back to a team like the Eagles or another team.
Starting point is 01:03:18 And you never know when an injury is gonna happen. The trade deadline is the Tuesday after week eight. Remember back in 2011, Carson Palmer had decided he was retiring because he didn't wanna play for the Bengals. And the Sunday before the trade deadline, Jason Campbell breaks a collarbone. And next thing you know,
Starting point is 01:03:33 Carson Palmer's playing for the Raiders. So anything can happen the next couple of weeks. But I think the Steelers are likely to get value for Bell. If they just remove the franchise tender, they're not gonna get anything for him. So, and I think they're looking at everything. And I think they're ready to move on from him for good. They just know that if they remove the franchise tender,
Starting point is 01:03:50 they get nothing. So maybe there's a way to bring him back and then quickly trade him. Huh, interesting. Here's a dumb question. Why aren't there more trades in the NFL? Well, I mean, I think that it's hard during the season to take a guy from another team
Starting point is 01:04:06 and jam him into your system and expect that there's going to be an immediate return. You know what I mean? Right, especially offensively. Receivers running back. Defensively, it's a little bit easier. But we'll see some trades.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Usually it's guys in the last year of their contract. Bill Belichick likes to trade for guys like that. Cause then if they leave us free agents, you get a compensatory draft pick the following year. Ooh, that sounds like cheating. And there's always guys that we're not thinking of that end up getting traded. So look for something to happen that, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:32 we'll be looking at five or six different guys. The Mark Cooper, Patrick Peterson, Carl Joseph, this guy, that guy, and then it's going to be somebody we're not thinking about who gets traded, like J.I. last year when he got traded, so like. Okay. Mike, you're the best. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:04:46 As always, we appreciate it. Try to stay a little taller. Maybe get those lifts. Come on. I'm sorry I got you on that. I feel bad, but James Winston. No, that's good. It was funny.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I liked it. I thought like, do these guys think I'm a complete and total moron that they keep setting us up the same way? Yeah, now I don't know what I'm going to do. I would have said that before you brought it up, but now that you mentioned it. Kind of a moron.
Starting point is 01:05:04 A little piece of advice. Maybe grow the sideburns out. I think that might make your face look a little far. Elvis, yeah. Situation, yeah. You get great sideburns creeping down right now. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I still, I mean, you had me standing next to Chris Sims tonight in the final segment of the show. And that guy's like six, five. So it looked like, you know, I was, I was on my knees. Hey, when you see Chris Sims next, we just remind him he doesn't have a spleen and we, we take note of everything he says that's bad about Blake Bortles.
Starting point is 01:05:30 I almost, I almost made a reference to him not having a spleen on the air tonight, but I thought that probably was, would not go over well. He's a little, yeah, well we had him on, we joked about it and it wasn't, it wasn't a very funny joke. Wasn't our funniest joke. Well, we'll hand up.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Wasn't our funniest joke, but he's a nice guy, except for the Blake Bortles bashing. Wait, so you guys are still all in with Bortles? Yes, okay, the interview's over. All right, see you Mike. Thanks Mike, have a good one. Have a good one. That interview with Mike Florio,
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Starting point is 01:11:03 Yeah. But don't freak out. Okay. Segments. We should talk some baseball. Yeah. So the playoffs are going on. ALCS and LCS 1-1.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Both of them. The Dodgers kind of stole a game. Scored four late runs. Game two. The Red Sox 1 game two. And David Price. As a beast. Sort of didn't shit the bed.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Exercises demons. Yeah. Sort of did his. He almost won the game. He almost. Wait. What was his final stat line? Four and two thirds.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Here's a little. Four and runs. Four and runs. Here's something. That's only a nine. That's only a nine the RA. Yeah. Improvement.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Strive in life to be like David Price where you set the bar so impossibly low for yourself that pitching four and two thirds in four and runs is actually people are saying you were dominant. Yep. That's pretty good. Four walks. Listen.
Starting point is 01:11:57 I mean one out away from the win. What more could you want? Yeah. Tonight that you get that you get four and two thirds and only four runs. You take that right. Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:06 So David Price which is kind of upset. Worth every penny. David Price and Clayton Kershaw like imploding in October is is fun to watch it melt down. And I actually. It would be very fun to see that game. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:18 And just like it would take a long time. Like the Patriots. But do you know what? Both teams would burn through the bullpins and like the third inning. Do you know what David Price did to himself? He fucked himself over. In future David Price gonna have to deal
Starting point is 01:12:28 with the current David Price's dominance of four and two thirds and four and runs because he's now gonna maybe have to pitch like game six. Yeah. And face like a bigger situation. Yeah. That was a mistake my friend. You could have just lost tonight
Starting point is 01:12:42 and then been done with it. Yeah. It's like going out on like your first five dates and then paying for it every single time. Guess what? You should have gone Dutch one of those times because you're gonna regret it later. Statistically though he is due for a gym.
Starting point is 01:12:56 That's. Yeah, he did it. He did it tonight. This was a gem. Overdue. This was a gem. No, no, no. No, this was a David Price gem tonight.
Starting point is 01:13:03 This was a warmup. That was like, you just had the pre-conversation about premium. That was the pre-warmup for the gem that's gonna come. I got a dumb question. Why don't they just move them to the bullpen? That's what makes sense. Also, why don't they start him on the road
Starting point is 01:13:16 because I actually think when a player gets that bad, it's worse to start him at home because getting booed by your home fans. Like on the road, if you stink, they'll probably cheer you, which is kind of nice. No matter if it's sarcastic cheering, it's still cheering. Or if they boom,
Starting point is 01:13:31 then you can reach deep down inside to your, like, fuck them. If they're booing you at home, you're more likely to be like, these people. Like, fuck them. Yeah, they really hate me. As opposed to fuck them. Yeah. It's a different fuck them.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Yeah, it's totally different. Because at home, it's like these are supposed to be my... Like, oh, fuck them. They're supposed to be my buddies. Yeah, right. Yeah, so these are two really good series. It's gonna be fun to watch. The biggest story that we can was Joe West
Starting point is 01:13:57 getting drilled in his shoulder. Did he even try to move? Actually, I think that was his gullet. Goes down all the way to his nipple. So he took one off the gullet. Yeah, he... Yes, he didn't get hit. Joe West is the first person to get into a staring contest
Starting point is 01:14:09 with a ball coming at him, and he lost. Well, and it was great too, because he was standing, he actually was standing in a spot where it didn't affect the play. You can make the argument that it helped in Red Sox, because it would have been out in the outfield, but he just stood there, didn't even flinch.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I mean, I think he's just, he's been in the umpire world for so long and eaten in enough steak houses across the country that he just has a human chest protector on it, all types. I just, when I was a kid, I used to assume that just every umpire was fat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Like, because I didn't know that they... That's fair. Yeah, most of them are. Right. It's not like college football where they're fucking doing bicep curls for hours a day. When are we gonna have a really jacked umpire? That should happen sometime.
Starting point is 01:14:51 We should have had it already. Yeah, we should have had it already. We're long overdue. I think being a baseball, there's not a lot of physical activity that goes on your job. You stand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:59 And now also... It takes a long time to get into the pros too. Right. It takes a long time to get into the pros and now you even can be lazier because the replay, like Angel Hernandez, what was that, game one?
Starting point is 01:15:10 Or no, was it the, I can't remember which game, Angel Hernandez, he screwed up like five consecutive first place calls at first place. I was just like, who cares? They all ended up being right. Cause they, you know, they all like,
Starting point is 01:15:23 you switched them, the replay was fine. So you don't have to do much. If you drill Joe West like that on a throw to second base, I get to feeling like the other team is gonna buy you drinks after the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:33 So like that's the great uniter between us. It's like the meme of Arnold Schwarzenegger and the other guy shaking hands in the middle. Yeah, that's what the red socks, that's what they were doing with the Astros. Yes. So that was talking baseball. We got more baseball coming up.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Let's do perspective. So we got perspective. It's kind of actually a toss up. Who had the better perspective. So after the game, Bruce Irvin, after the Raiders game, Bruce Irvin said, we lost, but I've got a beautiful wife.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I got to get home to boy. I'm going to try to make some babies, man. Okay. That's pretty good. He's going to have sex. He just said that. He just said I'm going to have sex right in everyone's face.
Starting point is 01:16:12 And then Nathan Peterman, after throwing, after saying I've got this to the coaching staff and then throwing two back breaking interceptions said, at the end of the day, I know where my true identity lies in Christ, being a child of God, basically, not finding my identity in football,
Starting point is 01:16:26 just trying to find it in who I really am. I love this game and put everything I have into this game, but can't let it define me. That's a great way of saying I suck. And like God won't stop me from going to heaven because I'm a terrible quarterback. It's also maybe God's just testing more, like with Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Yes. I do your job. I think Peterman's the king of spin zones. Yeah. Well, I mean, the interceptions being a lesson. You could also make the argument that he's being selfish because his spin zone is I get to go to heaven. So in your face, everyone else.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Child of God. When it comes to original. Child of God is also a creepy term, isn't it? Yeah, it's kind of strange. When it comes to... You're a child of God. When it comes to Bruce Irvin, he's less selfish because he's creating a new kid
Starting point is 01:17:11 that can one day go to heaven. True. True, he's creating another child of God. Yeah. He's flexing on everyone. He can create unlimited children of God. Although I could see John Gruden putting in some limitations on sex for his name now.
Starting point is 01:17:23 That's like, that's the next move for John Gruden. Yes. He'd take the ping pong table away, no jerking off and no sex. Would you consider yourself a child of God? Definitely like a distant relative of God. Maybe like a bastard child of God. Yeah, I'm like a son of a son of a God.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah, you know God. He lives down the street. He actually has banned you from playing video games in his house. Yeah, you know how Zeus... Well, it depends on which God we're talking about because Zeus used to fuck goats and stuff. And then their offspring would be half God.
Starting point is 01:17:51 So it might be the son of a half God. A goat. Yeah, so I'm a quarter goat. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, we'll find out 23 and me. Yep. We have just stopped talking to John Gruden, one of our favorite segments
Starting point is 01:18:04 because John Gruden somehow keeps talking and he really needs to stop. So he was asked on trading a Mari Cooper after the game. Is a direct quote. I don't know. No, I haven't heard that. You know, I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm just sorry to have to deal with a lot of these reports,
Starting point is 01:18:23 but I just hope Amari's okay. Like I said, he's gonna be a big part of our past offense. Yeah, so this was code for Mari Cooper got his head caved in so I don't... The day I tried to trade him. So I don't feel comfortable saying that we're trying to trade him or acknowledging that. Yeah, Mari Cooper got decapitated the day that I leaked
Starting point is 01:18:41 to my friends in the media that we're trying to trade him. Yeah, which has been, John Gruden's gotta be pretty upset about that because that probably takes his trade value down. Yes, right. It's like, well, does this guy have a concussion? We can't trade for him now. John Gruden was like, God damn it.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Yeah, do you think? The car's dinged up. Do you think John Gruden is gonna try to go back and get Khalil Mack back? Do you think he's made a phone call? Yeah. Five first round picks? Five, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I don't know what, I don't think I traded for five first round picks. I think he's probably done that. Yeah. In a moment of weakness, he's like, he's been asleep and he's slept, walked to his phone and like made it, sent a text. Yeah, he's a dealer.
Starting point is 01:19:15 He called up Ryan Pace and was like, hey, is it true there's no Baxies? Yeah, and Ryan Pace is like, what the fuck? How'd you get my number, you asshole? Yeah, so yeah. If I'm John Gruden, I just would have said like, oh, I don't understand your question with your silly British accent.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Yes, yes, even though this is- It's like I'm Ray Rhino from the- American reporter. Yeah, famous sportsman. Everyone, he just doesn't, just stop talking. Just stop talking. Just stop talking. We have a bad visual for Conor McGregor.
Starting point is 01:19:42 So Conor McGregor was at the Cowboys game today. He's promoting his new whiskey shout out. What's it called? Fook. No, it's Fook Top. 12 something. 12, yeah. I think it's, fuck.
Starting point is 01:19:55 We're friends with shout out Brian Axelrod because we're, he's got a whiskey. They're traveling around. They're at the Cowboys game. What is it? Say it, Hank, say its name. Say it's Fook your name. Proper number 12 whiskey.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Proper number 12 whiskey. Proper number 12 whiskey. A little free plug for him. Maybe we'll get him on the show. But Conor McGregor had to throw a football. And I love this because nothing makes, nothing gives me more of an ego boost than watching professional athletes from other sports
Starting point is 01:20:25 try to do things that we learned how to do as kids. Like when you see Ronaldo or Messi trying to throw a football. I'm a better athlete than Conor McGregor. Yeah. Now he did throw better than some college teams, quarterbacks, not gonna name names. Who might also be left handed.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Not gonna name names, but it was terrible. Yeah, it was pretty bad. He looked like bad versions of Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yeah. When he threw it. He should have, there needs to be like, it needs to actually be a guy who stands there and is like, hey, Conor, today they're going to ask you
Starting point is 01:20:56 to throw an American football. You need to just knock that guy out. Yeah. So there are things that when a politician goes across the country. Yes. That they're not supposed to do in front of cameras if you're in the biz.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Like you shouldn't eat a corn dog. No matter what. No matter what. What about a mini corn dog? No, that's even worse. From Buffalo Wild Wings. Yes, that's actually great. You should always do that.
Starting point is 01:21:18 You shouldn't eat a corn dog. You should generally not throw out any first pitches because the downside is way, way worse than the upside of that. Yes. You shouldn't fuck any pigs. I've done twice, nobody. Yeah, but there's bad visuals that are just
Starting point is 01:21:30 in fact, that are just waiting to happen. And I think throwing a football is wonderful. Well, it was a strike if it was like, it was a, it was a, it was an O2 pitch and I was trying to, I was trying to get him to chase one and he would have chased. Go ahead. Sorry, PFT.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Sorry that Bubba just interrupted you. No, it's fine. I was just saying that throwing a football should be one of the things. Absolutely. I'm pretty sure it's on the list. Like if you saw Rob Ford try to throw a football rest his soul, that was something.
Starting point is 01:21:59 It was something. He tripped too. But spin zone, your Conor McGregor and you can knock basically everyone out except Khabib. Yeah. So. As long as Khabib doesn't tell you to throw a football, you're good.
Starting point is 01:22:10 If Khabib shows up and's like, Hey Conor, can you throw this football real quick? Don't do that Conor. Do not throw that football. Jerry Jones, you know, was just like all amped up. Oh, after the game, he, this isn't a direct quote, but he basically said he's a very clean, well put together man.
Starting point is 01:22:26 He looked like a pianist. Woo. So what is that? I don't know. I don't know. Jerry Jones also definitely talked an Irish accent to him. So let me, oh, he can't understand me unless I talk to an Irish accent.
Starting point is 01:22:36 He poured Scotch into his own mouth and then tried to speak through the Scotch. Right. This is a Scotch accent. Two of them. They could rip it up. All right. Last up, we have trouble in paradise.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Ariana Grande and Pete Davidson have broken up. Oh my God. I thought these two were going to make it. I thought they were going to be married for 75 years. It was like these two and then John Legend and Chrissy Teigen, two people that two couples I thought would be together. Bad things happen in threes.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Do you think they're next? Well, who's the other one? John Legend and Chrissy Teigen. But who's the other two? Well, it's Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande. Tom Cruise and whoever he's speaking. Yeah. No, it's breakups.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Name another celebrity couple. Hank, you know celebrity couples. Name another celebrity couple. Oh, Rachel. No, Hailey Baldwin and the Baldwin and Biebs. Are together. Yeah, they're going to break up. That's the second.
Starting point is 01:23:30 No, Jennifer Aniston did just break up with her guy. Brad Pitt? She breaks up with everyone. Well, she gets broke up with a lot. It's kind of sad. By the way, I'm thinking about getting the Rachel, the haircut. What do you think? I don't know what it is, so I'll have to look at it.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Yes. Hank is actually a little bit too enthusiastic about that. The Rachel? Yeah, the Rachel haircut. But either way, Pete Davidson, I really thought, oh, yeah, you should. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:54 It looks like Cato Cameron. Yeah, you shouldn't cut your hair, though. Well, if Danny wins. By the way, Danny's fantasy team is a wagon. We don't give a fuck. They are here, four and one. Taryn, shut up. You should get the Rachel, though.
Starting point is 01:24:06 That absolutely would be awesome. But yeah, so Pete Davidson, Ariana Grande, Hank, do you have anything to say about this? Are you as shocked as we are? Pete Davidson, I heard. I'm shocked it's Dick. I'm shocked it's someone that would defend her boyfriend's butthole eyes would then break up with him.
Starting point is 01:24:19 Right? Less than two months later. Because I feel like she had to know that maybe this wasn't going to last. Oh, you think the butthole eyes might have been it for Uncle Chaps? It's one of those things that, like, when you hear it the first time, you'd
Starting point is 01:24:29 act like you're ignoring it, but it's going to be in the back of your mind. When Chaps wrote that blog and I clicked on the link, the first one, he's like, does Pete Davidson have butthole eyes? And I clicked on it and I said, holy shit, those are butthole eyes. And then.
Starting point is 01:24:41 You can't get that out of your head. Like, I wonder if one, you know what probably happened is Pete Davidson woke up one morning and Ariana Grande was trying to wipe his eyes with toilet paper and was like, what are you doing? Sorry, sorry, sorry. It's just a nervous tick. I thought you had some butt on there.
Starting point is 01:24:55 I thought you had some poop in your butthole eyes. I might just be too woke this show, but basically all Pete Davidson's SNL appearances have been talking about their relationship, so they might just be, like, going for ratings, like, trying to milk it. No. Hey, come on.
Starting point is 01:25:07 So your celebrity couple would do that? So you're saying love is real, because they're still together. I'm staying woke on the fact that love might be real. Maybe they were just never dating. Are we saying your name wrong? Ariana? Ariana? Is it Grande?
Starting point is 01:25:22 Grande? It's Grande. Like the, like the coffee. Like if you're like, I want a Grande. Okay. Latte. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Is it? I don't know. I have no idea. Ariana Grande? British people say Grande. What do we say? Grande. Grande.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Okay. My big thing about it. Yeah, there's an E there. You got to fucking say the E. The E's, that's not just hanging out. I'm very woke on anything that happens the morning after an SNL cast party. So, you know, maybe someone got a little hands-y.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I don't know. Maybe someone's butthole eyes ended up in the butthole. Little butthole to butthole action. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Just scissoring. Just eye fucking someone. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Yeah. Don't make my brown eyes browner. Ooh, damn. All right. Wednesday, we have a big guest. And again, don't freak out. But we'll talk to you guys on Wednesday. Love you guys.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I'm talking away while I know what I'm to say. I'll say it anyway. Today's another day to find you, shine away. I'll be coming for your love upgrade. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone. But I don't want to.
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