Pardon My Take - Mike Florio, Wild Card Weekend, Bears Heartbreak

Episode Date: January 7, 2019

Fastest 2 minutes for Wild Card Weekend (2:27 - 5:41). The Bears lost in tragic fashion and Big Cat is sad (5:41 - 17:17). Recapping the other games including what the hell were the Seahawks thinking,... can the Colts make the Super Bowl, and the Chargers have that road mojo (17:17 - 36:40). Who's back of the week (36:40 - 45:16). Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joins the show to recap Wild Card Weekend, head coach openings, and Antonio Brown's situation in Pittsburgh (45:16 - 67:46) . Segments include Mike Greenberg's dumb rules, Stay Classy Tony Romo, Kings stay Kings Nick Saban and some National Championship preview talk + Soggy Sorrows. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Mike Florio, pro football talk. We recap all Wildcard weekend. Football is pretty dumb, so we don't really touch on it too much, whatever. There was games Saturday. We're more of a college football podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:25 We got the national championship to focus on tonight. It's basketball season. Oh, I fucking forgot about the national championship. Yeah, we got to talk about that. Time to move on. So we have a good fun show, sure, whatever. Let's do it. Before we get to it, it's a cash app.
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Starting point is 00:02:23 It's part of my take presented by Barstool Sports. Welcome to part of my take presented by C-Geek. Today is Monday, January 7th. Wild card weekend. We start in Houston where the cults aren't doctors, despite Jim Ursay's continuous quest for prescriptions. But they did stay in a TY Hilton last night. Andy Bernard Luck showed everyone who was big tuna this Saturday.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Stanford ever heard of it as he linked up with Eric Ibronosaurus, sticking his neck out for a big first quarter score. Quentin Tarantino Nelson was an inglorious bastard. Only this time, Little Reich got a win as he leveled his five finger death punch on the Texans pass rush all afternoon long. Deshaun Watson in Homes didn't have any good critical reception, except for a Kiki challenge that was upheld. Kiki is at a touchdown while you're driving.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Did you lose possession of the ball before the pylon? Is that a touch back? And the whole of Bill O'Brien's chin will be around for another year as there's no spare pinkies to plug it up. Colts 21, Texan 7. We stay in Texans where they didn't use Kerry Russell Wilson as a Russian threat enough against the Americans team in their QB spy. Tyler Westside locking out.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Sosa locking out. Tried to make Dallas say, but Blake Charles Jarwin and the Cowboys have evolved into an upright standing position, except for Alan Hurd, tough to watch. America was so wrong for so long about Jason Derulo Garrett. Jason Derulo. What to say now, haters, as Dak Prescott Van Pelt got his team a win and better, so bad, bad.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22. Some spread. Jason Derulo. In Charm City, it came down to the wire, putting the words of my good friend, the Maher Randy Jackson, from, from, from, from, from, from Louisville Boom. That's going to be a no for me dog for the Ravens advancing. Eckler got Austin Space, but Melvin Gordon Lightfoot got the team back
Starting point is 00:04:37 on care, carefree highway to victory. Mike, turn in your gun and Badgley outkitched Justin Chris Tucker and had the Ravens fans home before rush hour. Don't you ever touch a black man's radio. Love that movie, boom. Adrian Grenier Phillips knows you have to make Aquaman, Aquaman, beating the Ravens before you can star in Medellin, taking it to the Patriots in Foxboro.
Starting point is 00:04:58 The San Diego Superchargers 23. Ravens 17. Whip, whip, whip. Fumble. We finished in the city of big shoulders, and you know what they say about guys with big shoulders. They've got big nicks, foals, that is. Abercrombie and Fitchell Trebisky was a trendy pick to get to the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:05:19 but he arrow postowed one too many throws. That's French for airmail, boom. Zach, I want a girl with a short arts and a crisp long jacket. Said this game is a piece of cake for the Eagles. Hey, Tige, what do Courtney Parky and Vince Vaughn's character in the Chicago-based comedy The Breakup have in common? What? Who?
Starting point is 00:05:41 They're both pole locks. Eagle 16, Bears 15. All right. Wildcard weekend. And I'm sure there are a lot of people that are tuned in to see Suicidal Big Cat. So, and you are in luck because he's here. Listen, December 23rd, 2018.
Starting point is 00:06:01 At Barstool Big Cat. That's me. Parky will kill us all and we have no one to blame but ourselves. Is this oral retweeting? You're oral retweeting yourself? I mean, I don't really know what to say. You have been saying for months. For months.
Starting point is 00:06:15 I even tried to cut him in preseason. You have a tweet from Augustine. You personally cut Cody Parky. Didn't you say something to Matt Nagy about the kicking position too? Right pace. I was like, dude, stop pranking us. So, obviously the Bears lost in heartbreaking fashion. The dreaded double-doink.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Never seen that before. Well, you never watched WWE as a kid? No, not really. The two doinks? I watch real sports. So, I don't really know what to say because I was expecting it. I liken it to a slow punch aimed directly at my nose that I've just been staring for three months and I can't move my body out of the way.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And then it happened. So, part of me is like, damn, I can't believe this happened. What the fuck? And part of me says, you know what? Like, NASA wouldn't have me go fly a spaceship to the moon. Don't rule yourself out. They wanted Lance Bass to do it. They could very well ask you.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And what I mean by that is they wouldn't put me in a place to not succeed. Why did we put Cody Parky in a place that he was not going to succeed? And I did see, obviously, the replay. It might have been tipped. Yeah. It might have been tipped. I'm not going to be one of those guys who sits here and say, fuck Cody Parky. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:07:28 He was not a good kicker all year. And then he was not a good kicker in the playoffs. So, whose fault is that? Well, so, I think it did get tipped. Yeah. One of those, like, the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away situations when it comes to fingertips this weekend for you. Well, we'll get to that.
Starting point is 00:07:42 But that's actually a good point about the Lord because Cody Parky, remember, he just Jesus, he said he's going to trust Jesus. Trust him what I'm doing and trust that the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ makes no mistakes. So, if you want to blame anyone, it's actually Jesus. As we've said, Jesus had bad luck with crossbars too. Yes. So, I actually have some spin zones for you that I wrote down. Well, I have some.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And you can, yeah, I do too. You can tell me which ones you think work for you or if you have more that you'd like to add to the list. Okay. I have some as well. So, since it got tipped, you'll probably bring Cody Parky back next year. So, he's probably going to be better next year. Nope.
Starting point is 00:08:16 That doesn't work. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, my fourth one was going to be the Packers are sitting at home. Yes. The Packers record was six and nine this year. Just remember that.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Okay. I will remember that. A healthy Aaron Rodgers, somewhat healthy Aaron Rodgers went six and nine. Okay. Better to lose now than lose in the NFC Championship game. I don't know about that. For me personally, everyone was like tweet at me being like, hey, you must be so happy with how sad Big Cat must be.
Starting point is 00:08:39 No, we leave that to the Giggle Twins. That's not true. Yeah. Liam and Hank, they're the Giggle Twins. Bubba and Hank, they're the ones that can laugh at us. Because guess what? We're the men in the arena. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And we know true heartbreak. I would never do that to you. Yeah. But I really wanted to see you like more suicidal later on. I wanted you to experience some success before I could laugh at you for your failure. Does that make sense? Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:00 This feels too early. Yeah. But there wasn't a chance of like, this was a heart breaking game versus if they just lost in a blowout, it wouldn't have been the same. But I never, I think you guys would agree. I never got full cocky about this Bears team. I always was saying like, there are things that are not 100% like the defense is dominant, but it's not a complete, complete team.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And there are pieces to it. They could run the table and they could just as easily lose like they did on Sunday. Okay. Mitch is basically a rookie. Yes. That's true. Okay. So next year in his second year in the system, he'll be good.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Ben Simmons. Yeah. Exactly. The parade would have been super cold. That would have been uncomfortable in Chicago in February. Go back to rookies. Speaking of rookies, Kevin White's still a rookie. There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Still a rookie. There you go. Champagne is basically all empty calories and you don't need any of that right now. That's part of my, that's part of my spin zones. Okay. Better draft pick. Yes. True.
Starting point is 00:09:50 True. Moving on up. True. Wait, we don't own our draft pick. Fuck. He didn't hit. The Raiders have it. Cody didn't hit three uprights.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Also true. Could have been worse. Could have been way worse. I, I thought that was in. I really did. When it don't, I was like, Oh, it don't. It went in and it took me a second to realize when they came out and I was like, wait, what, it was, it was so dramatic because I was waiting for the refs.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I had no idea if it had gone in or not. Yeah. And then they did it. That's a tough one. It was though. All right. So here are a couple of my spin zones. Packers record six and nine.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I have all my fingers. We all have all of our fingers. We still are a podcast with 40 full fingers. That's pretty good. I'm on a diet. So like my back doesn't hurt as bad. That's pretty good as well. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:34 We still have the number one sports podcast. Oh, that's, yeah, we can always fall back on that. Actually, this is good for business. Yes. It always is. The hard broken is really, really great. It's like work really, really hard to get an A-lister guest or just have one of our teams just losing a heartbreaking fashion.
Starting point is 00:10:50 They're both the same. They both will get the same amount of numbers. I'm trying to think what teams we can adopt that are, that are really, really shitty and always lose. Well, we are, we do like the Browns. They are America's team. By the way, I think that they are, we'll get to this later, but Browns, it's looking good for you guys next year.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Really good. For all of us. Yeah. For all of us. My last point was football is stupid anyway. And I'm obviously more of a basketball guy. No, that's not true. I don't even like football.
Starting point is 00:11:12 It's like, it's such a waste of time. You're a fake fan. Is that what you're saying? I just hate it. It's like so stupid. So random. You're not invested in anything. You know what?
Starting point is 00:11:21 I'm going to cancel football. Football? You're canceled. If the ball had just like come to a perch on the upright, bounced off one, like the upright and then on the crossbar. I don't know who had the possession arrow. No, we did. It just chills there.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You guys did. Yeah. We had to jump ball. It's a home team. Yeah. So here's another one for you. Trabisky actually did throw two good passes on that last drive. He threw a bunch of good passes.
Starting point is 00:11:39 It didn't matter. What do you say? You don't have to wear pants for three and a half weeks. Yeah. That's right. It's jumpsuit January. True. True.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I have worn the same jumpsuit two days in a row. Which one? This one. We don't have to travel. You can buy it. Barstow Sports Stores Velour. That's kind of nice. No big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:55 We don't have to go out to LA. Would have been nice to go to LA. For Jared Goff to rip your heart out. I was actually thinking about if we had gone to LA to do something fun for all four of us to go to the game, we do like a, we randomly dose one of us with a shitload of edibles and just see what happens. Oh no. That went well last time.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Yeah. That went too well. I hope it's not me. All right. So I want to talk about the game for a second because you brought up the Trabisky thing. Mitch played a bad first half and I don't even blame him. I actually think Matt Nagy, like he, he kind of turtled in the moment and I think he's a very, very good coach and I'm sure he'll learn from it, but they just didn't throw
Starting point is 00:12:26 the ball outside the numbers or down the field whatsoever. And then the second half, they're like, oh yeah, the Eagles have like maybe the worst secondary in the league and we should maybe try to get some, scheme some guys open and throw it downfield and hey, guess what? It worked. So that was baffling to me. And I will give credit, Nick Foles, the Eagles offensive line was unbelievable. They basically kept Clio Mack in the past rush, pretty much, pretty much clean all night.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yep. And Nick Foles, I don't know what's going on. I do not understand it. He throws balls up that like, you know, you just say that's got to be intercepted and it just sticks there and then Golden Tate will get like a 20 yard reception or Alshon Jeffrey will jump somewhere. And I said it while we were watching the game, I was like, Golden Tate was always a Bears killer when he was for the Lions.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And then guess what? He gets the fourth down, fourth and goal touchdown to seal the victory. I don't want to be one of those guys that immediately says, okay, Foles is a better quarterback than Carson Wentz. But I do think when it comes to the offensive line, there's something about blocking for a guy like Nick Foles as opposed to blocking for a guy like Carson Wentz, like, I know Nick Foles is basically a statue. He's going to be in the pocket.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I know where I have to block my guy. He gives him a clean pocket a lot and he's able to make some weird throws that just happen to work for him every, it has to be the month of January for it to work outside January all bets are, or February, all bets are off. He's something is going on where the Eagles, I mean, credit to them. They came into and beat the number one defense on the road. Is Nick Foles going to write another book? Probably.
Starting point is 00:13:56 He probably is. I guess, I guess we actually found out because Jesus was on their side. Jesus was that. Foles was Jesus rooting for the Eagles. I just, I don't, again, I saw it coming. We all saw it coming. This isn't also, this isn't like, I'm trying to say that I'm a prophet because anyone who watched the Bears this year, Cody Park, you missed 11 kicks, I think.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yes. There's, everyone knew this was coming and everyone knew our worst nightmare was a close game down the stretch, need a field goal to win the game. Look what happens. And it happened. And I just like football is canceled. I have canceled football, don't even play the rest of the playoffs. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Everyone kind of agrees, right? No. Hard to agree. Like people get bad injuries. No. Alan Hurts, you see that, man? That was terrible. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Don't, don't have them hurt themselves. I will not sit here and have you slander the NFL just, I understand that you're hurting right now. They're hurting themselves, man. Right now your heart looks like Alan Hurts. It sounds like you could use some, some liquid to go with your sorrows right now. We're going to do it later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 We'll do soggy sorrows later. Giggle twins. Liam and, Liam and Hank just giggle in my veins. Another spin zone. Stop being funny. You're now free to totally open up and root for Phillip Rivers, these playoffs. Open up your heart for Phil. What about Jared Goff?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Well, yeah, he's our, we're rooting for a Los Angeles Super Bowl. Okay. Fine. Well. Yeah, we are. That's right, Hank. You heard me. Fuck everything, man.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You heard. Stupid football. Sports are dumb. Football's awesome. Sports are dumb. I have a question for you, big guy. I wish I was like, you know what? I'm going to read this week.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Okay. I'm going to read a book. Listen. Watch me now. I'll sit here and I'll listen to you say that you're not going to watch football anymore, but once you start talking about reading books, no, I didn't have to stop you. I bought Art of the Deal. Yeah, you're just scared I'm going to negotiate the shit out of you.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Dude, I've already, I've already read every Trump book. Oh, okay. You ever read Think Big and Kick Ass? Yeah. Yeah. I've read that one. Yeah. I live my life that way.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Kicking your ass in my mind. This whole show because you won't stop slandering the NFL. Maybe have Cody Parky read that one because he doesn't kick anyone's ass. He would hit my ass into the goal post. Yeah. It was a big ass. Yeah. It's just right there.
Starting point is 00:15:57 You think you could hit an ass? Yeah. If you just, if everyone just mooned him right behind the goal post, he would be able to hit Larry Fitzgerald's ass. All right. Let's talk about the rest. Let's talk about it. I do have a question for, about you, about Matt Nagy for you.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yes. So what's up with the BU thing on his place? It's got to be you. Is he schizophrenic? No. Why does he need to be reminded who to be? It's, I mean, are you really asking this? It's a football guy, like a football guy's right sayings to themselves like that.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Hey, remember to be you. It seems like a football guy that's listened to one too many TED Talks. Well, you know what? I wish he had written it a little bit bigger because in the first half he was not himself. Yeah. He was not. He was trying to win a game nine to six. It's more like Mitch will hopefully, you know, not make any mistakes, but that's how
Starting point is 00:16:37 you, what is it? What's the, what's the point break saying? Fear. The weakness of the body. Look up point break fear and read it to me, Hank. Let's talk about the other games. I'm done. The footballs canceled.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Except I still have all my pinkies. So let's go to that game. And also we can gamble. We can always gamble. Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true. And so hes hesitating in the first half. That is exactly what happened to Matt Nagy in the first half. It was RIP Bodey.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It was PU. Yeah. RIP Bodey. Yes. Exactly. Well, 50 year wave, dude. So Coltsy never saw him die. That's true.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He might still be alive. He's probably just floating around. Eddie would go. Colts. That was all, that was all my surfing all in one. Colts Texans. I still have my pinky. I was never really worried because that was the Texans.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Like the Texans, now credit to Colts because I think the Colts could actually go to the Super Bowl. They, what they did to the Texans defensive line was incredible. Yes. But I just will never trust the Texans. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's Bill O'Brien. Maybe it's that stadium.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Maybe it's just like the helmet. Something about the Texans, I will always look at them and be like, well, they're about to just drop a clunker on Saturday afternoon. It's tough to get past having Brock Osweiler as your starting quarterback without having that, that stench kind of linger around for a while. Right. Like this is the organization that thought that this was a good idea. They need to go on a miraculous run where they were maybe set, they win the AFC South
Starting point is 00:18:04 at seven and nine or something. I thought you were going to say they have to kill Brock Osweiler. Yeah, that too. But they have to do something that, where they come out of nowhere because they are that team that every year, if they, if they went 12 and four every year, but like still not a threat. Yeah. Still not a threat.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah. I, obviously we had the pinky bet. It was thrilling. It was three months of excitement. I think unfortunately what happened here was I'm addicted to it and next year I'm going to pick a team to cut my pinky off. They won the school. You're going to be chasing the dragon.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I am going to be chasing the dragon. So we'll have to figure out. I'm just going to get a drug addiction. That sounds like, it sounds way easier to me. We have to figure out. I'll bet my liver. We have to figure out the stipulations. What was the, how many games was it after five?
Starting point is 00:18:45 I think they were two and three and then they won seven in a row after that. You're going to have to pick a team after the five after five, so I have to be under 500. No. Cause I think that that, I think more often than not the team under 500 after, I think five games isn't going to go anywhere. I actually think they were way worse than two and three. I think they were like one and five at some point.
Starting point is 00:19:04 No, they started 0 and three and then they won nine in a row. You think of the Colts? Colts started one and five. That's right. Yeah. We'll figure it out later. But just so you know, that was just like a lot of people are like, Oh man, that's too bad.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I want to see the pinky bet go a little further. That was just chapter one of the pinky bet. It's going to end with me losing a pinky at some point in the future. Yeah. Like I will not stop this bet until I cut off the tip of my pinky. I think, I think that's where I'm at at life. So do we, are we officially on board the Colts possibly being a Super Bowl team? Cause I don't think that I am.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Okay. Talk it out. Well, now I'm starting to think myself into it. So next week they play the chiefs. They will block, they will block the chiefs and they will be able to throw on the chiefs. They will block the chiefs. They will block the chiefs. That ain't it chief.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Okay. And they, no, they, I think they have everything. Of course it's, we've always said the, the, the, this podcast, we've always said the NFL is so random, but I do think the Colts have all the pieces to get to the Super Bowl. Okay. And this, this final four in the AFC, all four of those teams are good. You know what we are? We're one week from the rivalry officially being back on again.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yes. Colts Patriots possible matchup. Ooh. But don't you think that like the, the AFC has four, two, three. I do. So you could see all four. The NFC, I think, I think we're headed for Ram's, Ram's two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I agree. And I think that the Saints win that. At home. Yeah. I think it's going to be Saints at the NFC. Yeah. And then yeah, any team from the AFC, I could see winning the Super Bowl actually. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Yeah. Except for the Patriots. Okay. Patriots really have what it takes. Well, I mean, I actually would say the chiefs are the only team that I would, I would throw out there because they're defense. Yeah. No, I'm just saying that to piss Hank off a little bit also because I very much want
Starting point is 00:20:41 it to be true. I think I, I am slightly concerned about Phil Rivers having the team of Destiny Field. Okay. And then our stat of the day, Phil Rivers, the, the, the chargers have yet to lose outside the state of California. So it's season. So it's a problem for them if they win and the Colts win. Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Because then they go back to. They go back to their little, but it's a, it's a bonus for all of us because we get to get an AFC championship game in a soccer stadium, which would be hilarious. And they just changed the name. It's not even the StubHub Center anymore. It's called, it's back to like what original name was. Seeky center. Seeky center.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah. Seeky. It's something like the, the like home healthcare awareness center. Yes. So, so the Texans, so the Colts move on the Texans. See you later. Let's go to the night game. I got a question for you.
Starting point is 00:21:27 What the fuck were the Seahawks thinking? PFT. They were thinking Pete Carroll doesn't want to run the ball back in 2014. So now we're going to run the ball every fucking play until the end of times. So now they're thinking like Pete Carroll and, and shot and Hymer, by the way, shot and Hymer, the cross, the crucifix that he was wearing, week over week got bigger and bigger and bigger. Mike Singletary level.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. I think he's just trying to like ingratiate himself. The Russ Wilson just be like, Hey man, we're on the same team at the end of the day. He must think there's a vampire on his team at some point. Yeah. So if they're playing against garlic, I think that they had it, they had it made, but it was terrible play call. It was awful play call.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Just like handing the ball to Chris Carson standing still on his heels. It was, and it was not only that, but it was so clear to everyone who was watching that you couldn't run on the Cowboys. And you have Russell Wilson, who's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. They threw Russell Wilson through the ball before the final drive, which obviously was, it wasn't, it wasn't garbage time, but they were down 10. He threw the ball 21 times before that 21 times, 21 pass attempts, which is insane. And I think they were, they were averaging like eight yards per pass attempt and two yards
Starting point is 00:22:35 per rush. And then every first down, they'd run it and run it and run it and run it to nothing. Yeah. It was insane. Yeah. It was very weird. And then on the other side, Dak is going to get a bajillion year extension. We're going to talk to Mike Flurry about that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I didn't think, I wasn't that impressed with Dak. Ezekiel Elliott's awesome. He's, yeah. He's very, very good. And when, when he's playing, they can handle the ball, you know, 30 times a game if they want to. He's the difference. You know how the running back position in the NFL has kind of been diminished a little
Starting point is 00:23:05 bit. Everyone says, well, you can get a replacement guy. Why draft a guy high? Ezekiel Elliott is why there's still a difference between the guys at the top and the guys right below it because he makes plays like two or three plays in a playoff football game that Ronnie had at the end of the game where he stiff armed the Seahawks player and stayed in bounds. He still farmed the dude by the other dude's hand.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It was unbelievable. He held his hand. He couldn't do that to his brother. Nope. Stiff armed his hand and knocked him down to the ground. And it was probably, I don't know, he and Saquon Barkley, maybe Todd Gurley, like there's three or four guys who can do that play and that's why you pay a running back for that. That play for the end of the game, when you're trying to salt the game away, when you're
Starting point is 00:23:42 trying to run to win, that's what you pay him for. I've noticed he's also gotten better since he started wearing jerseys that covered his stomach. Yes. And did you, have you also noticed that his hair is so crazy that like it comes out in weird ways out of the holes of his helmet? Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And it looks like a vagina hair. I kind of like it. Yeah. Like a 70s porn star. Yeah. Out of the side. It's pretty funny. You saw that hole and was like, Oh, wow, just, it looks like cubes to you.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, I did. It really did. And like, cause it's, it's stuffed in there. You know what I mean? So it's not, his hair is just coming out, but not in a natural way. And it's like, Whoa, what's going on there? I think anyone who had a lot, has a lot of hair with the helmet and it just comes out. It's like, Hey, what are you thinking now?
Starting point is 00:24:21 Yeah. They're entrapping you into thinking about porn. You know, Jerry Jones has taken a look at them and been like, Hey, back in my day, tell you what, Jerry Jones, what a, what a moment he got his big time playoff win. Now he has to go to LA. He's going to live it up in LA. Oh yeah. He's there already.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Although he's on the bus on the way there right now. Yes. And I don't know. Do you buy the cowboy? I mean, like I do, but I don't. I think the Rams are going to kick the shit out of them. Yeah. It's so weird because that was a game to me and I don't want Cowboys fans to get upset
Starting point is 00:24:51 because Dak Prescott did make that big play and he made a bunch of big plays and their defense is legit, but that was a game to me that if the Seahawks just used a little bit of common sense, they would have won that game. They definitely could have won that game. Right. If they, if they had changed their game plan at all, starting in like the second quarter. Yeah. Because as I've said many times, Chris Carson is an awesome running back.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yes. But I don't get the obsession with handing somebody the ball when they're standing still in the shotgun formation and letting the defensive line get a push on them and linebacker start running at them. Right. And the Seahawks love that. Right. There's nothing I hate more in life in anything, the number, my number one thing that I hate
Starting point is 00:25:27 in life. Nazis. Well. Yes. I, I did think, yeah, but handing the ball to a running back out of the shotgun formation is number two. It looks cool though. No, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:25:38 It does. Sometimes it out of the pistol. It looks awesome. It looks pretty cool. Sometimes I have a shotgun. It's just a draw. Thank you. Nice little draw.
Starting point is 00:25:46 The, um, we also have to mention one of the all time beats if you had the Cowboys minus two and a half. So Janikowski gets injured, which look Sebastian Janikowski has been in the league forever. And I think we all kind of love him because he's the fat guy who, who kicks, but was that not like the least surprising thing when, when a fat guy does something somewhat athletic and like grabs his leg, you're like, yup, that was coming. Like we all knew that one was going to happen. Him and Michael Bennett should just switch shoulder pads.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Yeah. He wears the biggest, he wears like 19 early nineties, Randy Moss, uh, high school highlight tape short. And zero alterations to his jersey. Yeah. It hangs so, so long. He just like puts his on, I go out, I kick the ball. So he gets hurt and then the Seahawks have to go for two point conversions for the rest
Starting point is 00:26:28 of the game and no field goals. So at the end of the game, they get down, they're down 10. The line is two and a half and they score and have to go for two. They get it. They cover in a miraculous way and relatable Revelle. Could you imagine? No. Could you imagine walking into work tomorrow and having to talk to the guy who had cowboys
Starting point is 00:26:47 minus two and a half at the water cooler? I would, it would be crazy. I couldn't because I actually had, I had the Seahawks and so I, at the very end when that happened, I just, I thought it was just for me. I was like, you know what? This is my reward. Yes. For watching football all day today is I get a nice little backdoor cover at the end.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Did you see Revelle's new thing is he just tweets out like people making bets? He's like, some guy, some guy made a $300,000 bet at this casino. It's like, okay. And, and then he just, he just lists bets. Yeah. List people making bets. It's all, it's all Floyd Mayweather. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 It's like, okay. Floyd texts me every time you go to a casino. All right. Last game, Chargers Ravens. Yes. Uh, the Lamar Jackson crew had to eat a little crow, no pun intended for the Ravens, but they did cause he was terrible in that first half, made a little bit of a game of it in the second half, but man, he looked like he didn't, he had never touched a football.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Yeah. Well, he did that thing in the, in the very first drive where he fumbled the ball and then picked it back up. And I was like, that was cool. Yeah. That's a play that not every quarterback can make, even though I'm pretty sure he just threw the ball away later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Um, but yeah, he's stunk it up. He's stunk out loud for the first two quarters to the point where they almost put Joe Flacco in. What do you, what do you mean? You're saying like you have to play really bad to put Joe Flacco in. Yes. Okay. Really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:28:00 No, that's not true. Um, you have to be so desperate to be like, Hey, we don't, it actually put Joe Flacco in only when you're like, Hey, the game is so far out of reach that we don't want Lamar Jackson to get hurt. Right. So now we'll put Joe Flacco in. Well, that's not very fair to you, to me and other, other Joe Flacco fans out there. Joe Flacco, but, but Joe Flacco was ready to play if called upon and then after the game,
Starting point is 00:28:20 when they asked him about, he said, if there's one thing you can say about Joe Flacco, he'll always say the right thing. Yeah. He might suck. That's like after the game, he won't throw anybody under the bus. After the game, they're like, were you thinking about going in and he goes, no, man, don't give me that. This is Lamar's team and you know, he was going to go out there and make some plays
Starting point is 00:28:36 and we're all behind him. So like Joe Flacco, that was worth at least $80 million for him to say that right there. He says and does all the right things. Joe Flacco has gone from elite to decent teammate post game superstar. Good guy. Good guy, Joe. Good guy, Joe. No, but Lamar played bad enough to get bench after the first half.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And I was thinking that he was going to get bench, um, but the fact that he didn't, I think that the Ravens mostly didn't bench him because that screws everything up every year. Everything. Everything. It starts an entire off season of what are we going to do? Absolutely. And this was also a game where Justin Tucker, one of the most, probably the most reliable
Starting point is 00:29:11 kicker in the NFL. He basically, no, I don't want to say he lost the game, but when you're different, if you're down three with the ball at the end of the game and you got a guy who can hit a 60 yarder versus down six, when he missed a kick that he always makes, hmm, yeah, Justin Tucker and Badgley, that was the Chargers kicker. Yeah. So the Chargers have a long storied history in that franchise of kickers that absolutely of Cody Parkes.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yes. That, that are not very good in the postseason. Yes. Um, what was it? Nate, Nate Cating that missed three. That was mean of you by the way. I'm still like a little slow from the game, like, don't do that right away. I was just trying to relate to you on something that you might name for a while.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah. Nate Cating, remember him? Yeah. So he missed three back in the playoffs, but it was shocking that the, the Chargers now have a kicker that made five. Yeah. I think he made five out of six today, which is pretty impressive. That is impressive.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. So Phil Rivers marches on. I'm so excited to watch Phil Rivers some more play. This is the year of Phil. Like we've had the season of Phil and watching him get mad at refs and scream and yell. And hopefully it all ends like close your eyes, think of the Super Bowl, Phil Rivers is down a score with a minute and a half left. And it's the classic Phil Rivers drive, but this time he completes it.
Starting point is 00:30:26 This time they win. Charlie Brown kicks the football. Oh my God. Would that? I mean, he would have to retire. Oh yeah. He's absolutely. You'd have to retire.
Starting point is 00:30:34 No, he would not. He's too, he's way too spicy. He's way too of a dog. He still has the passion for it. I think he just plays football because it gets him away from his family. Yeah. Like it. That's, that's quiet for him.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Quiet is getting tackled by 11, 300 pound guys when you have nine kids at home. It's like, that is actually better to me. You're absolutely right on that. And I also think there's a piece of him. Like everyone knows that guy who loves to get in debates all the time. You know, your friend who's like, yeah, no, yeah, no, you're not that guy. No, no, no, there is that guy I am annoying, annoyingly like tries to get in arguments and always is the contrarian.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I think that's a little bit of Phil Rivers and he just would miss fighting with refs so much if he wasn't playing in the NFL. Because he goes for it like instantly every single call, he's got to at least talk to them about it. That's true. He does strike me as a guy that he doesn't feel alive unless he's being hated by someone. Right. And if you're at home around people that love you, it's like, what's the point?
Starting point is 00:31:27 This is gross. This is stupid. There's too many people. How can I prove that I'm better than somebody if they agree with me all the time? Right. I would imagine he would dress like his oldest kid up in a ref uniform just so he can get his practice in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Then like, what do you see in there? What do you see in strikes? One guy has to wear the ref uniform every day and everybody else wears the Bolo tie. Yeah. And they all just scream at the ref kid. They just get their practice in. What I'm looking forward to is next weekend we've got Phillip Rivers and a running back with a sprained MCL going up against the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So this is his chance to avenge that loss back in 2007. What do you think Hank? What say you? Are you nervous? I'm a little bit nervous. Kind of crazy how. He's got that thing going. He does.
Starting point is 00:32:04 They have the like team of destiny. This is Phil Rivers last run type feel. Kind of crazy how Antonio Gates, his career lasted longer than Rob Gronkowski's. No, that's not true. Antonio Gates looks so fat. He does. Yes. He looks hilarious.
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's like a little ball. He was never running full speed after he caught the catch even though it was at the end of the game. He was like taking his time getting up and running back. He can still box people out though. Yes, he can. It's so great. He just rolls down.
Starting point is 00:32:31 He's like a Pikachu character. He's like a Pokemon. Yeah. He's like Kirby. Remember Kirby, the video game? He just sucked everything up. Yeah. He just rolls down the field with the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I was going to say his body proportions are exactly that, the same dimensions of a gummy bear. Yeah. He's like throw the ball to a gummy bear. Yeah. It will just stick inside of his belly. Yeah. And then you just roll on down.
Starting point is 00:32:50 All right. So I'm excited for next weekend, even though football stinks. Ooh. You really think the Chargers are going to be the Patriots? I think that they can. I think they're really. I think they can. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I mean, like I said, like we said at the Star Show, every single team in the AFC right now, in my opinion, has an equal shot at going to the Super Bowl. What's the spread, Hank? I haven't looked to probably like four and a half Patriots. Tell you what. I'll make you bet straight up. I do think that the Chargers are going to win. There you go.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I really do. What do you want to bet? Pinkies. No, we're not betting pink. Calm down. Nice. I mean, you guys, would someone say pinkie? All right.
Starting point is 00:33:25 How about this? If I win, you have to shave your entire beard. Whoa. Oh. Chargers win. You got to shave your beard. That's bad. That's bad.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Name your stakes. No offense, but that's bad. I mean, the only stakes like a name that's worse than that is you shaving your hair. No, but you can't. I can't cut it. I can't cut all. No, Hank. No, anything but that, Hank.
Starting point is 00:33:43 No. Winner gets to pick the loser's jumpsuit. No. No. That's stupid. That stinks. You have to shave your beard. You have to shave your head.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Like, what do you want me to say back to that? You can't shave your face. You can't have your fucking beard here. Oh, hey, Sam. This is what I need to make you feel better. You can't do that. You can't do that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Well, it takes, it took me like three years to grow my hair out to this. Like, it takes you what, like three weeks to grow that out? Couple weeks. All right. Well, four and a half. I mean, I sniped that there. Okay. Name something else.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Come on. Hmm. Well, now it's the stakes. Oh, I got it. I got one. You ready for this, Hank? PFT can't have soup for an entire month. No, I don't, I don't really care about PFT soup.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And I know you will when I'm not there to defeat you. I will. I will. I will. I will. 100% never wear the suit in the original bet. So I will definitely sneak soup. You are right about that.
Starting point is 00:34:29 That is true. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that for the rest. Two months. What about the rest of the jumpsuit? January has to wear a real suit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:37 There you go. That's it. Three piece. Okay. Yeah. Shout out. That'll take a while to get here though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Well, we'll buy it. You have to wear a suit. Yeah. Collared shirt, tie. Yes. Every day for the rest of January. Okay. And you have to shave your entire beard and keep it shaved.
Starting point is 00:34:53 No. For the rest of January. No. If I have to wear a suit. No. I will shave my entire beard. Yes. And you have to keep it shaved for January.
Starting point is 00:35:01 For the rest of January. That's fair. If I have to wear a suit every day, then you should keep yours. That's fair. I will shave my beard once. I'm not sure. No, no. Hank, I'm wearing a suit every day here.
Starting point is 00:35:09 No, but you have to. No, I'll give this goatee, Hank. Okay. Look at this goatee. Everyone calm down. Everyone calm down. I'm not going to clean shaven for the entire month of January. Why?
Starting point is 00:35:17 That's fair. He's doing the whole. And you're bedding straight up. And the Patriots, I'm giving you points. All right. Yeah. Actually, whatever. I don't even care.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Shake on it. Shake on it. There we go. Shaking on it. Right now, I'm watching it happen. You guys are fucking pussies for not bedding a pinky. But that will suffice. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Let's hot. Let's do who's back. You're going to. The thing is, you sneak out of every. I'm not going to sneak out. I do not. Always, always do. I ain't.
Starting point is 00:35:41 If you sneak out of this bet, this actually will hurt. Yes. It will. Then I'll develop a rep because he, no, but no, I'm saying the fact that he won't be able to wear a jumpsuit for the rest of January will kill him. Like that's. That'll be bad. That's his usual Sundays too.
Starting point is 00:35:56 On your birthday. Oh, on the way to the Super Bowl on the way down to the Super Bowl. We're going to be driving an RV down to Super Bowl. That sucks. But nothing's worse than Hank's. Hank. Without a beard. That's like the worst thing I could ever wish on someone.
Starting point is 00:36:13 What? I mean, I'm not. I'm not worried at all. I just, I love how big cats back now. A little bit. Do we got a game? We got a little. You got to bounce with your step now.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Liam, you want to bet pinkies? No. Okay. All right. Yeah, I did. That is, that is look. It's like a way to. I'm just sitting here all glum.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's like, Hey, want to go out and make a bet? Yeah. Yeah, I do. Okay. All right. So what do we want to bet? You want to do some national championship talk? Let's do it with you.
Starting point is 00:36:39 We have a segment about Nick's saving. Let's do it then. All right. Hank, go who's back? My who's back is Game of Thrones. Cool. That was my who's back too. Golden.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Really? Yeah. I wrote it down. Yeah. And the Golden Globes. I guess there was a commercial where they had a three second clip of the newest season of Game of Thrones. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Very cool. So what happens? Real relatable to this podcast. There's some dragons. Fucking idiot. Danny's and John that. Welcome to Winterfell. Winterfell is yours, my lord.
Starting point is 00:37:03 To Danny's. So that's a pretty big give up by Sansa. Can we cut Hank? The nice thing about you. You ready for the call up? You know what? The nice thing about Game of Thrones spoilers is I don't even understand the language he just spoke.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Hank's probably spoiling the shit out of the show right now. I don't know what happened in the commercial. Sansa did what? She gave Winterfell to she. Oh, she gave. She gave Winterfell. You never give Winterfell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Not in the first date at least. You got to make him work for it. Jesus Christ. Yeah. And you can't take it back, right? You can't take Winterfell back. No, you can. Oh, you can?
Starting point is 00:37:35 How? That seems like a little bit like a shady move to just take it back and be like, hey, I gave it to you. Now I'm going to take it back. Well, not me. Usually a war happens to take it back. Oh, that's what. Oh, you win it back.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Now we're learning too much about Winterfell. Okay. Okay. PFT. What do you got? That was it? Are you going to get another one? I had one, but you asked.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Okay. For who's back. My who's back of the week is swearing. And Wayne Rooney. Fuck. He says, yeah. Shit. Damn.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Damn. Wow. Damn is really. Bomba. Damn is really a big time. Yeah. So Wayne Rooney was arrested in Dulles Airport for public swearing slash intoxication. Wait, who?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Wayne Rooney. He was? Yeah. Damn. Yeah. So in Virginia, it's the same crime. Public swearing. And, and, and I guess you would call it, what, drunk in public.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Yeah. In most states. But yeah, it's the same crime there. He knows if he was drunk or if he was cussing or both at the same time. Maybe he ordered a Bloody Mary. Wait. At the bar. This is a real thing?
Starting point is 00:38:33 And then British Bloody Mary is like the worst thing you can say. This is the real thing? Yeah. You got arrested for swearing. Probably, probably for being drunk. Got it. But in full disclosure, I have experienced with this exact crime. Swearing in public?
Starting point is 00:38:47 Yeah. Yeah. So, bad boy. Big bad boy. So he said it's a personal matter and request privacy at this moment. Okay. Nice. Wayne, you have our privacy.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Let us know when you want to talk. My other who's back is Imagine Dragons because they are playing half time tonight and ESPN is just advertising for the Imagine Dragons halftime show. Yes. More than they're advertising for the national championship game. Well, because. For, with good reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:14 No one's going to the game. Yeah. I don't know whose idea was to have a college football championship that more likely than not will feature two teams from the south in fucking Santa Clara, California. Yeah. And San Francisco. How stupid is that? It's really.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Just do the college football championship in New Orleans every single year. Yeah. Like this makes no sense. I agree with that. Yeah. Exactly. Have it in the Superdome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:39 No one complains. Or in Atlanta, they built that whole new fucking stadium that I want to fuck. Yeah. With the butthole that closes up. Let me fuck it. Yeah. Let me see some aerials. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 So Imagine Dragons. So the tickets are what? Like 50 bucks now or something cheap? Sounds cheapest. Imagine Dragons concert. I hate that. I hate ticket. Get in Twitter.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's the worst. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's spirited by Darren. But but yeah. Hey, oh my God. Last year it was this much to get in. The only thing worse than ticket get in Twitter is TV ratings Twitter.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Oh yeah. Like we were part of that for a while trying to analyze each piece of, you know, one day. Yeah. We were trying to analyze why TV ratings go up and down and each game to game and politics and all that. That Twitter sucks. It's all about the leading. It is all about the leading.
Starting point is 00:40:23 That's true. Very true. Yeah. And the lead out. Yeah. Can you build on your lead in audience? Right. That's what they really look at.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And then leave it for your lead out. All right. My who's back is Fred Hoyberg because for some reason the Minnesota Timberwolves and Chicago Bulls have like a weird docking situation going on with all their basketball minds. They fired Tom Thibodeau, which is sad. I feel bad for him. He is. He doesn't.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's the type of guy who like, he doesn't have anything else besides basketball. Do you know what I mean? Like a basketball lifer, he's going to just show up to random high school basketball games and try to coach the kids from the stands because he doesn't have anything else. He might be like, what's his name? What's his name's character in Hoosiers, the drunk guy, Dennis Hopper. Is that his name? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah. So I feel bad for him, but the Timberwolves are thinking considering to have Fred Hoyberg be the new coach or GM, why and why? That's really got to piss you off if you're Tom Thibodeau, right? Yeah. To have Fred Hoyberg just follow you around. Yeah. Just cucking you out of all your job.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I actually think Fred Hoyberg would make a decent GM. I don't. I think it was their assistant GM. He played for him too. Yeah. And I, I get it, but I get the GM part. The coach thing, I do not understand. Here's the thing, if you're, if you're any middling NBA team out there, why not hire
Starting point is 00:41:43 Tom Thibodeau right now? Yeah. He's at least good to give you like a little bit of juice for a few months. Oh, he will get the most out of you. He'll come in and coach a shit out of you. Yeah. Until if you, if you're an NBA team that doesn't have a superstar, right, bring in Tom Thibodeau right now.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Right. Or if you have a guy who is like a borderline superstar, but a little bit lazy, bring him in. Yes. Because he will kick the shit out of him and bring and get the best out of him. And then he'll play 47 minutes every single night and eventually he'll get hurt and his career will cut short, Joe Caminoa, but that doesn't matter because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:42:11 He's going to juice you up. He's got to the, the max of his abilities. Yeah. He's like steroids. Yeah. Really good short term. Bad for your hips. Bad, bad.
Starting point is 00:42:20 That might fuck you up long term. Yeah. Might fuck up the cranium a little bit. Okay. Let's do your balls. Let's do our, our interview with Mike Florio, which we taped actually directly after the bearish game. You'll probably notice it in my voice.
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Starting point is 00:45:16 You're in business. All right, we now welcome on our good friend, father, uncle, it is Mike Florio, pro football focus and nailed it again. Pro football talk. Come on. I know that. I know that. Mike, I want to start tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:47 You're a Vikings fan. No fan bases had heartbreak with field goal kickers, probably more than the Vikings. Maybe the Buffalo pills. What do I do? I don't know because when it's just wide, right? You don't have that extra agony where you think there's a chance it's still going to go through, right? You had the double like moment in time that's never going to go away where you think that
Starting point is 00:46:09 there was a chance it was going to go like when it just misses, it misses. So I can't relate to much less one doing. I can't relate to two doings and having it come forward when like one millimeter difference and it would have gone through and it would have been the greatest field goal ever. It goes from the greatest field goal ever potentially to the worst miss ever. So you're saying that you would rather have that than a Blair Walsh like wide 10 feet? I'd rather know. I'd rather know and have it over with.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I don't want that extra tantalizing moment that never leaves you. I thought it was in. Yeah. But the moment never goes away that you think it's in. I thought it was in. I just missed the damn thing. Yeah. I was second there before the refs went no good.
Starting point is 00:46:48 I was like, wait, I think that went in. I would say a single doink is pretty bad. The double doink, it extends. You have like a full 0.75 seconds where you're not sure if it went in or not. At least with a doink, it's just like a rejection. Just stop. Okay, let's move it down. There's never been a triple doink.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I would, Mike. What are the Ravens going to do with five points? I think that's going to do with five points. What are the Ravens going to do with Joe Flacco? No, nobody cares about Joe Flacco. Let's talk more about uprights. Yeah, that was tough. So do you have any words of encouragement for Big Cat?
Starting point is 00:47:15 Like, does it get better? No, it never gets better. And it never goes away. I've been telling them that it gets better. It will be with you for the rest of your life. You will be thinking about it years from now. Okay, that's good to know. All right, Mike.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Let's talk about other stuff. I don't want to talk about this. And besides, we're putting this interview in the middle of the episode, so I probably did all the stuff at the beginning. I actually have a question for Mike. Would you like to apologize to the Rulebook for screwing it up on Twitter when you said that the incomplete pass should not have been ruled an incomplete pass? Well, no, I expect an apology from Tony Corinthians for not explaining it a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:47:47 All he said is there was no clear recovery, so it's an incomplete pass. You got to explain it by rule in a situation like this, where on replay, there's no video evidence of a clear recovery that it becomes an incomplete pass because it was a catch. How do you go from a catch to an incomplete pass simply because the ball ended up being on the ground as a fumble and no one recovered it? If anything, it should have been the bear's ball at the spot of the fumble. That's the logical rule. He should have explained it in that moment.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Don't just say there's no clear recovery, so it's an incomplete pass. That makes no freaking sense. Yeah, but a serious point. Don't you think that they should make one of their little points of emphasis that they love to do to tell the refs not to blow the whistle so early on all these fumbles? Like you saw it in the last game of the season between the Browns and the Ravens. You saw it in the Ravens Chargers game when it could have been a fumble return for a touchdown. You saw it in the Bears game.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Are they going to sit down with the refs and be like, hey, let's focus on keeping the whistles out of our mouths. They got a tough balance to strike, though, because they don't want to let the play continue beyond when it otherwise was over and then somebody gets injured. And in these moments, and this is one of the things they were concerned about. This is why they didn't want to make the catch rule something where there would be more catches because with more catches, there are more fumbles and there are live balls even after the whistle has blown.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And it's amazing to me that no one got that football because these guys are coached. Go get that football. Just pick it up. It didn't have to be a mad scramble. The ball's right there. Somebody from the Eagles needed to pick it up at the moment it happened. I thought somebody needs to pick that ball up because you never know what's going to happen with the ruling on the field, whether it's an incomplete pass or a catch.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So I think these guys are coached. They just blew it in that moment. Both teams blew it because either team, if there's a clear recovery, that's the team that has the ball at that spot. OK, so moving on to the other games, screw that game. The weird thing or the interesting thing about this wild card weekend, I feel like all the teams that lost their arrow is somewhat pointing up, so there's not going to be big changes.
Starting point is 00:49:38 But the Lamar Jackson, the Ravens game, it kind of looked like everything that a lot of people have been saying that maybe he can't be trusted as a thrower. It all came true in the playoffs. Do you think the Ravens are going to be going to the next season like, hey, this is our guy, or is there some doubt that creeps in, even though they finished the season on such a great tear? They made the strategic decision back when they draft and even before that, they want to get back to old school football, Ravens football, run the ball,
Starting point is 00:50:06 have a quarterback who will run the ball, throw the ball. You've got Greg Roman there. For now, he may end up being hired somewhere as an offensive coordinator. Marty Moringway was all in on this. They've got Lamar Jackson to probably keep RG3, maybe even get a third quarterback who can who can play the way that Lamar Jackson is playing. It gets weird, though, if John Harbaugh ends up leaving and that door is not slammed shut. I think the Dolphins will call.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I think the Broncos will call and find out what does it take to get John Harbaugh and then what does it take to sign John Harbaugh? But if they were going to extend it, they'd extend it by now. He has all the leverage here. The question becomes, how much do the Ravens want? Knowing that after next year, he can walk away with no compensation whatsoever. But John Gruden, when he got traded, essentially, to the Buccaneers, the Raiders got two first round picks, two second round picks and $8 million.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And he was under contract for only one more year. So I think the Ravens are going to want a lot. What do you think the going rate is going to be for John Harbaugh? I think it's got to at least be a first round pick, at least the first round pick before the Ravens will do it. Otherwise, we'll just keep him for a year. And there could be some internal disagreement here because they value their draft picks. You know, that whole compensatory draft pick process, and no one understands the formula.
Starting point is 00:51:15 The Ravens understand that formula. They know how to sign free agents, what to do with free agents, how to work that system to get maximum compensatory draft picks. They know the value of draft picks. So if it comes down to whatever the best offer is, and if you can get two teams in on it, maybe you can get an auction going where it doesn't matter what you want. They just keep bidding each other higher and higher. But at some point, when the best offer is on the table,
Starting point is 00:51:37 you're going to have people, I believe in that Ravens organization, to say, look, we only got this guy one more year anyway. Let's take these draft picks. Let's get more players and let's go hire our coach now. How much of next year do you think factored in for Harbaugh when he was on the sidelines? Or maybe even at halftime, when Jackson wasn't playing well and you've got Flacco on the bench. How much of what he's going to be doing next year, do you think factored into his decision to keep Jackson in there?
Starting point is 00:52:00 We know we were talking about that at NBC. And Tony Dungey said, if he sticks with Jackson, then that means he's committed to staying because he doesn't want to do anything to undermine Jackson for next year. If he goes to Flacco, then he just wants to win now. And he's not thinking about next year because he may not be there. And then I chanted and said, or he just wants to get it over with. So he's sticking with the guy who's not playing very well and you get out of it now
Starting point is 00:52:22 and you can get on to your next job next year. That that didn't go over very well. But I guess you can't rule out that possibility. You just thought, hey, you know what? Let's keep the kid in and when it ends, it ends. And we figure out what's going on for 2019. But I think he wanted to do what he could to win. I think after that missed field role, there was a spot there where I thought
Starting point is 00:52:39 they had to make the change, but they got that good field position. And I think that was the spot where you go with Flacco. But I felt like they wanted to keep going with Jackson. It almost worked, but I just felt like it was so bad in the first half. They needed to spark from Joe Flacco. And I think Lamar Jackson would have helped some grudge about the point where he would have been ruined next year. He's a rookie for crying out loud.
Starting point is 00:53:00 They have a great backup who's available to come in and try to save the day. Yeah. And you saw it in the playoffs. I mean, it's always hard for rookies to win their first playoff game 0 for 3 on this weekend. I want to move to the Saturday night game, though. Dak Prescott, Jason Garrett. What are you thinking? Five years for Dak Prescott, 10 years for Jason Garrett.
Starting point is 00:53:19 What are their new contracts going to look like after winning one game? You know, it's funny that the Cowboys have been talking about extending Dak Prescott. They don't talk about how much they want to pay him. Whatever they wanted to pay him, it went up on Saturday night because he played at a higher level. He elevated his game. And I think that's where guys make their their money. That's where guys make their legacies.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And that's where guys gain the confidence to be better the next year and the year after that. So he made himself a decent amount of money and he may want more than what the Cowboys are willing to pay. But I think that that they're in good hands with Prescott. Now, with Jason Garrett, it can go all go off the rails next year. But, you know, that Jerry Jones has been vindicated so far. It was an impressive win against a very good Seahawks team.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Now we'll see what they can do on the road against the Rams. Yeah, that quarterback draw made him probably 40 extra million dollars, I would guess. I wouldn't quite go that far. I wouldn't quite go that far. I would. I go further. Hey, you want to try me, Mike? Yeah, 50 million. Come at me, bro. I keep going. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Sixty. You don't want this. I think our perception of him definitely changed. Didn't your perception of him change last night? I know, I don't know. I typically go with what Skip Bayla says. I typically don't. Skip is in love with him. Yeah, I typically don't base my entire opinion on one game, but I will base my opinion on one game on the other side.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Brian Schottenheimer, he has to get fired. Yeah, look, I don't know what they were thinking when they hired him. I mean, we have seen time and again that he just doesn't take a team to where it needs to go. You need to unleash Russell Wilson more than they did. I don't get it. And Pete Carroll was very diplomatic after the game about, you know, why they didn't run the ball more, why they didn't throw the ball,
Starting point is 00:54:54 why they didn't run the ball more with Russell Wilson. It's like they kept, they were still committed to run, run, run, run, run. They didn't throw the ball down the field until it was in a dire situation. And it worked. And I just think they should have been riding Russell Wilson more in that game. I don't know that he gets fired after that, but I think next year, Pete Carroll is going to be keeping a much closer watch on Schottenheimer. They're going to bring him back, you think?
Starting point is 00:55:13 Who? Schottenheimer? Yeah. I don't think they're firing after one year. I don't know. They're going to be firing after one game. I mean, because they had a good year. I mean, overall, the team was good. They just, I think Pete Carroll needs to learn how to get more involved in the offense, in those key moments.
Starting point is 00:55:26 What happened, you know, four years ago when the decision to pass instead of run. I mean, I don't know whether he had a, had a chance to trump their old bevel, but I just think the head coach needs to be ready to jump in. I don't like it when the defensive coach tries to wash his hands of the offense. I think he's got to be ready to get involved. Well, he's learned his lesson from that, from that play call on the two-yard line, but all he does is run the ball now. They, they love running the ball at a shotgun more than any team I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:55:50 in my entire life. Yeah. And I remember them doing that the year after, what was it? The year after the Super Bowl loss, they did that against the Rams. And, and Marshawn Lynch's mom was going nuts because they, they were running the same play. It's so predictable. Same situation, same formation, same play. They tried it on fourth down and got stopped. So there's a stubbornness there on offense with the Seahawks that keeps coming back to bite them. And they were too stubborn last night trying to stick to the run.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Okay. I'm ready to go back to the Eagles bears game, but I don't want to talk about the bears. I want to talk about what the Eagles are going to do with Nick Foles because this is incredible. This is incredible. I mean, he did it again on the fourth, fourth down drive or sorry, the fourth quarter drive, fourth and goal. He makes a big play. He's making big plays left and right. He obviously didn't have a great first half, couple of interceptions, but what do they do going forward? Because at some point, the guy who keeps winning you playoff games, I mean, you can't just get rid of them.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Chris Sims and I spent a lot of time on this on PFT live after they beat the Rams a few weeks ago and we all were kind of like, Hey, you know what? Maybe we need to take this guy seriously. And I said that at some point between that game and winning the Super Bowl, there's a conversation that needs to be had between Doug Peterson, the coach, Howie Rosemann, the GM essentially, and Jeff Reeler, the owner where they block out 45 minutes, they go in the big conference room, they go to lunch and they talk about what they're going to do with Nick Foles or Carson Wentz. And at some point, Foles does enough between that Rams game
Starting point is 00:57:13 and winning the Super Bowl where he's your guy and you trade Wentz. And I think the moment is coming up next week when they play the Saints in New Orleans because Wentz and the Eagles lost 48 to 7. I think it was the worst loss for a Super Bowl champion in the following season ever. 41 point whitewash. If Foles pulls it off again, if he's got one more rabbit up his ass that he can pull out in that game, then I think that's the point where you have to say, You know what? Carson Wentz is a better quarterback, but we're a better team with Nick Foles and we just have to accept it and move forward with them.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Is there any world where they can say, Hey, listen, Carson, you get it. We have something weird going on with Nick. Nick's being weird and he's very, very good. And we're just going to ride him until the magic runs out. And if you wouldn't mind just sitting on the bench until he starts to suck again, that would be awesome. I know a lot of people are, I mean, I know you're being slightly sarcastic in how you presented just a little bit. But not really, not really, but I am. Yeah. It's the perfect take. It is perfect. Yeah. I'm right either way. I'm the perfect take.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Think back to week one and week two when Carson Wentz was close to coming back. I think Nick Foles is better because Nick Foles was horrible the first two weeks. They won one. They lost one. That game against the thousands. He was great. They went to Tampa Bay and they lost. And this is a real dynamic. Chris Sims vouched for this one week when we brought it up a few weeks ago. The idea that if Wentz is there and healthier, close to it, Foles plays differently because then he starts thinking about what is the mistake? What is the next mistake that gets me benched? Am I going to hold,
Starting point is 00:58:44 you know, you hold on to the ball a little too long. You try to be too perfect because you know they've got Carson Wentz ready to go. So both guys are healthy week one and Nick Foles is the starter week one. Nick Foles may not play as well as he does when Carson Wentz is out of the picture. And it's something that Foles would never admit. He wouldn't get his pet town petty, but it's a reality. When you have a quarterback that you are thinking is good enough to come in and do as well, if not better than me, I better be perfect or they're going to put him on the field. And I think that Nick Foles will be
Starting point is 00:59:12 better if Wentz is out of the picture. If they're competing, I think Wentz ends up winning. Now here's the thing. Wentz gets ends up getting hurt in December and then Foles comes in and does it again. And at some point with Wentz, the problem is this. It's not how he plays. It's that he's not available to play. If you can't keep yourself on the field every week, every year, then how can you call yourself a franchise quarterback? I mean, you know, I know Tom Brady had a lost season when he got hit low and torn ACL, but he plays through every bump and bruise and he doesn't put himself in spots where he
Starting point is 00:59:40 gets banged up. Carson Wentz still plays recklessly and you have to factor that into the equation of which guy your starter is going to be. Now again, if they get blown out next week by the Saints, then I guess you stick with Wentz. But if they beat the Saints or if they even keep it within single digits, you have to have the conversation about what you're going to do next year. And there's an argument to be made that you're better off with Foles. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, especially if you get a lot from Wentz. I mean, maybe there's some team out there that are going to be a two first round picks
Starting point is 01:00:07 plus for Carson Wentz. Yeah. Can we move off the playoffs for a second and ask you what's going to happen with Antonio Brown and tell me this, because this is kind of similar to the Laveon Bell situation where everyone got it wrong with like the he cannot show up. He can show up. But he has to show up by week 10, all this stuff back and forth. I've seen things saying Laveon Bell can be traded. He can't be traded all back and forth. Tell me exactly not Antonio Brown. Sorry. What did I say? Laveon Bell. Laveon Bell. Well, Laveon Bell was the situation before, but tell me first what they can do and second what they will do.
Starting point is 01:00:45 They can cut him. They can trade him. They can keep him. Those are the three options or option four would be he wants out. They want to keep him. He acts like Carol Owens in 2005 and they can play hardball with him and suspend him and all that. Let's set that aside for another time. For now, they have to figure out what they want to do. If keep him, cut him or trade him. If they trade him before June 1, the salary cap charge for 2019 will be over 21 million. If they trade him after June 1, the salary cap charge is 7 million for this year, 14 million for next year, but they got to pay him 2.5 million on March 17. So you
Starting point is 01:01:17 got to take that into account. That's the deadline. 2.5 million comes due on March 17. You can cut him with a post June 1 designation and end up having 7 million count this year or 14 million next year. I think the most likely outcome, the two decisions, two possible decisions are keep him or trade him before that 2.5 million comes due. And I got word out to about a dozen GMs and coaches today to try to find out what they think is going to happen and what they would do. And the thinking is you got to find a way to work this out. He's too valuable to the team. It's going to be too disruptive financially to move him.
Starting point is 01:01:52 And I think the problem, and I'm sure you guys have seen the reports and talked about it, it's Antonio Brown and Ben Rothsberger. Rothsberger has got a problem with Antonio Brown and they got to get both of them in the room and they got to figure out can we make this work. And because they have to try to make it work, there's too much invested to not make it work. They paid him 33 million dollars over the last two years. And maybe if they give Ben a big contract extension, maybe that'll get him the right frame of mind to deal with Antonio Brown for the rest of his career. Because they're better off with him, but they
Starting point is 01:02:20 can't have him disappearing when there's a key game coming up. And you got to worry about whether or not they're teammates that can never come back from that. I think some guys are going to have a hard time getting over it all. Cameron Hayward, when he did WDVE interview last week, it sounds like he's willing to forgive. And if he speaks to the team, then maybe they'd be willing to move on. But Rothsberger's the one that they have to hire this out with. But isn't it one of these situations where you give Rothsberger the extension and then Antonio Brown gets pissed off at Rothsberger?
Starting point is 01:02:48 Well, that's quite, yes. And when Antonio Brown tweeted on Saturday, it's a system where you have no leverage. Well, dude, you've been paid twice now and you could have done what Levy on Bell did. You could have let your contract expire and play the franchise tag game and force your way to the market like he did. And I think he's resentful of Levy on Bell circumstance, where he played this in a way where he's going to cash in majorly on the open market, something Antonio Brown never did because he was never willing to take the financial risk because he always took whatever the Steelers offered. Got it. Okay. My last question.
Starting point is 01:03:19 What's going on with with Cliff Kingsbury? Are the Patriots really thinking he's going to be offensive coordinator? Can two guys as hot as Tom Brady and Cliff Kingsbury coexist in the same town? You remember they did once before. Cliff Kingsbury was a sixth round pick just like Tom Brady. He was picked number 201 in 2003. He was only there for like a year or so. But Bill Belichick, I'm told, respects Kingsbury and he's one of the guys that they would consider if Josh McDaniels actually leaves this year. And Kingsbury is quite possibly going to quit at USC. There's a small buyout he would have to pay relative to the buyout
Starting point is 01:03:54 that he's getting from Texas Tech and just move on and take his chances and go interview with the Jets for the head coaching job, with the Cardinals for the head coaching job. Go be someone's offensive coordinator. There's going to be such a run on offensive talent when they start hiring coaches this year. There's going to be plenty of spots for Kingsbury at a minimum as an offensive coordinator. How did he go from not being good enough to coach offense in the Big 12 to being an NFL head coach? Well, I think what happened was the NFL teams have begun to embrace completely the college offenses. So this is the guy that
Starting point is 01:04:27 built Patrick Mahomes. This is the guy that designed that offense and you're going to have more and more teams with that kind of an offensive approach and everyone wants to find the next Sean McVeigh, the next Matt Nagy, the next Doug Peterson. When you look at Nagy and Peterson's career arc, it's not like they coached for a long time, but what's going to happen is there's going to be a lot of unqualified guys who get hired and I'm not saying Cliff Kingsbury is unqualified, but when you're desperate to find offensive coaches. Now, look, that may swing back the other way with the playoffs being more defensive
Starting point is 01:04:58 struggles. We're getting away from 54-51 and we're getting to 16-15, but I still think that it's a reality that benefits offensive coaches where there's going to be such a demand that even if you weren't good enough to coach Texas Tech, you may be good enough to be the head coach of the New York Jets. That would zig while others act. Now's the time where you bring in Rob Ryan and you go, hey, I'm going full defense. I'm going unkempt instead of a guy with a good haircut and a playbook as thick as the Bible. Or Rex. You know, it's funny. Rex was reportedly making calls last week
Starting point is 01:05:31 telling guys to get ready and I don't know what they're getting ready for because he hasn't gotten a call. There's a bunch of former head coaches that would love to get back in that can't get a phone call and you guys know who would be at the top of your list. Yeah. All right. My last question. Seeky question. You don't mention his name anymore? No. We don't want to jinx it. Oh, OK. I was about to mention it. Literally, my Seeky question. Put promo code take at $10 off Seeky question. Will he get a job? No. Why?
Starting point is 01:06:04 You know, I thought he would. I thought he's so connected at the league office. I thought there would be one owner that would decide to give him another shot. And who knows, crazier things have happened. And some of these owners make decisions we don't quite understand, but his name has not come up at all. If anybody is pursuing him, it is either being done very secretly or an owner is going to get to a spot where he says, you know what, I don't like any of these options. Let's go get Jeff Fisher. That's the only way it's going to happen this year. OK, someone's going to do that.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Someone's going to do that. Mike, thank you as always. And I appreciate it. And whatever, man, it's just football. Hey, hey, big cat. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing. There's other sports going on. Just throw yourself into the other sports. You know, it'll be. It'll be. The bulls are great. The bulls. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you in Wisconsin, right? Northwestern? No. No. Chicago. Not Northwestern. Yeah. All right. Jesus Christ. Do you follow Hockey?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Are you the Hockey fan? Yes. Yes. But I mean, they stink too. Whatever. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Football is stupid. All right. See you, Mike. Hey, real quick, Mike. I got you on the phone right now. This source just came through for me right now. Can I report this live and you can confirm whether or not this has legs? I can only imagine. OK.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I'm told that the that the Buccaneers have hired Bruce Arians, his head coach and Todd Bowles as defense coordinator to be announced. That would not surprise me. OK. That would not surprise me at all. That wouldn't surprise me at all because I was talking to somebody today that if Aaron gets that gig, Todd Bowles is no brainer to be the coordinator. OK, boom, I just reported right now. Like it was just time.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Stamp news, timestamp, 842 p.m. Eastern news, even if I don't break it. I want to make sure I understand this properly. Must credit if it's actually right. Yeah, no, it's like it's breaking right now. People won't listen to it till tomorrow. But when you hear it, you know that it was breaking at the moment. It must credit father and son duo.
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Starting point is 01:11:15 I'm just realizing right now that, like, you're fine. No, what happened when it happens, what happens in this world? That we live in the content world. It happens. The loss happens. It's an immediate punch to the stomach. It's an immediate like hour of just fuck, fuck, fuck. I hate everything. And then we have to get in here and I got to kind of pick it up a little.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I'm just thinking about how I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and just it's going to be brutal because football stinks. If football is stupid, they're going to be stupid. There are going to be many, many times that you have to relive this loss, which is tough. I want you to know that I'm here for you. Would you rather have the Eagles like go to the Super Bowl, which is lose next week? Does that make it better? This is the worst conversation.
Starting point is 01:11:59 And it always happens like right after your team gets beaten in the most heartbreaking fashion. It's like, would you rather that the person that just killed your parents go on to become the Joker or would you rather that they get run over by a car when they're running out of the alley? I would, in this case, it's an easy answer for me. I would rather the Eagles win another Super Bowl. So we can all just be like, Hey, what, what was that with Nick Foles?
Starting point is 01:12:20 Like that was crazy. And we just become like, oh, yeah, that's almost, that's almost a badge of honor. Like you got beat by Nick Foles, who did the impossible and lost air sorry, and won two straight Super Bowls on insane runs. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like Nick left his little, he left a little mark on your tramp stamp. Right. On his way out the door. An imprint. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:39 But you had to get a couple stitches. You're walking a little funny for a while. You had to get an apesiatomy. Yeah. So go look that one up. Just stupid. It's just stupid. Like it's caring about sports or stupid. It's dumb. But we read that book, but we love it. All right, let's talk about some more sports. Sports. All right, Nick Saban. Yeah, give me the King's Day Kings.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Well, King's Day Kings, Nick Saban. I still have to put water on my myself. He was asked about shit. Fuck you, Hank. We good? Yeah. OK. Hey, the national championships tonight. You're just such a giggler.
Starting point is 01:13:15 We get to watch sports and we get to gamble on sports. Remember when you made me just doggy sorrows for the Celtics losing to like the Cavaliers? Do you know March? You know how you guys, I do. That was a bad, that was a bad loss, though. Do you know how you can like make a dog not bark like there's a surgery? It's fucked up. Like no one should ever do it.
Starting point is 01:13:30 There is. I wish I could do that surgery on Hank so he could never laugh again. Is it called just training them? No, you could. There's actually it's fucked up. But I wish I could do that for Hank. We should get a dog trainer. So he can't giggle. Yeah. I just it's very confusing to me because this is like a sports comedy podcast.
Starting point is 01:13:45 You guys like try and be funny. So sometimes when you go, oh, oh, oh, we try to be funny. Yeah, this is classic. And like, I'm sorry that you guys are so funny that I laugh at you. Yeah, right. When you try to be funny, you sometimes are funny. Big Cat, when you joke about how heartbroken you are about the Bears losing, that's funny. That's what you're trying to do, right?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Trying really hard at the rest of your jokes stink. But the one where you're not joking is trying to be funny. This whole year's long setup of Big Cat being a Bears fan. Just for this comedy. Yeah. Oh, it's so funny. It was perfect. Big Cat, how hilarious. How hilarious. Yeah. The Bears, they were like, hey, let's have a good year this year
Starting point is 01:14:19 and then lose in a heartbreak fashion so that Hank can laugh at this. Trying to be funny. Classic comedy. OK. College football. You. I seriously don't let him. Catch or something out of him. No, he's trying to beat you.
Starting point is 01:14:30 You already broke my computer. He's trying to beat you. You deserve that. Don't let him win. All right. PFT. Don't let Hank win. King's Day, Kings, Nick Saban, College football. You face no chin.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Have a motherfucker next week. He's going to look so bad. If you have to shave your face, like you might as well just quit. No, I mean, I've had no beard for like 23 years up to this. And I'm not worried at all. I would much rather have to shave my beard and wear a suit during jumpsuit
Starting point is 01:14:58 January, the most comfortable month of the year. I'm really, you know, I can't wait to see when you snake out of this bet, you're going to look like I'm not going to. I'm not going to know where you are. By the way, if anybody out there makes jumpsuits that look like actual suits, absolutely not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I would love to entertain your product. Okay. Kings Day, Kings, Nick Saban. You ready for this? Yeah. College football. Yes. It's tonight. Yes. College football lives here.
Starting point is 01:15:21 It lives here. Thunder. Clemson. Lightning. And the thunder. The Crimson Tide. And Dabbo Swinney and his Clemson Tigers. Can they cage this tiger for the fourth time?
Starting point is 01:15:32 They're running down that hill and touching that rock. Yeah. That's what they do, I guess. Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. What is that rock? Is that a geode? I hope it's a geode.
Starting point is 01:15:43 OK, anyways, my Kings Day Kings is Nick Saban because they asked him, hey Nick, if you win this national title, you will tie Bear Bryant at Alabama with six titles apiece. Have you thought about that? And his answer was, I don't think about that at all. I believe him. I totally believe him.
Starting point is 01:16:01 I believe him. He does not think about what he has done in the past. I think he's concerned. He probably sees future head coaches and he's concerned about them. Right. And he's like, I don't want this person to beat my eventual record.
Starting point is 01:16:15 No, I don't even think he does. I don't even think he thinks legacy or any of those things. It's like, hey, Nick Saban, do you think about how the fact you could tie Bear Bryant? Or do you think about the fact that there is a five star defensive lineman that's considering LSU in Alabama? He's just mad that it takes away from recruiting time.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Right, right. That is Nick Saban. Did you also see the quote? Someone asked him, who the fuck this person was? I have no idea. They asked him, have you had a chance to watch Bird Box? Oh, OK. And he said, no, I have not.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And Nick Saban, like Nick Saban's like Bird Box, the fear, I don't want to give away the movie, but the fear would be stopping coaching football and recruiting for a second just to watch a movie. Him watching Bird Box is his bird box. Right, exactly. If he looks directly at Bird Box, yes, he'll want to kill himself.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Right, exactly. He will be like, I'm going to jump in front of the nearest garbage truck. Yes. Again, not to spoil it. Not to spoil it. That's at the beginning of the movie. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:13 So it's not that much. So it's the first 15 minutes. So yeah, we spoiled that. Somebody probably tricked him into watching a couple seconds of the recruiting scenes in Blindside. And to him, that was also his bird box. Yes. You tricked me.
Starting point is 01:17:25 This is an actual recruiting. Yeah, this is fucked up. Yeah. So it's just always funny whenever they ask, whenever someone's like, hey, Nick, do you ever do anything? Yeah, I watch the Weather Channel, eat my little debbies, and recruit and win national championships. Is that enough for you?
Starting point is 01:17:39 Because that's all I do. Yeah, anything else take that question to Mr. Terry. Yeah, exactly. Because she knows it's not me. She'll figure it out. So along the same lines of tonight's national championship game, we were talking about the PED tests from Clemson last week and how crazy it was that we totally
Starting point is 01:17:57 believed Dexter Lawrence. Yeah. Why doesn't Dabbo Swinney just have his entire roster test positive for whatever that substance was? Because then they would probably have to forfeit? No, if everybody's positive for it. They'd have to forfeit. No, they just be like, they'd assume
Starting point is 01:18:12 there's something wrong with the test. And then they forfeit. No, it's like in stand and deliver. Yeah. When every student did really well, actually, yeah, they just accused him of cheating. I'm actually proving the exact opposite of my point right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I just thought I had a really good idea for how they could get him out of it. If everybody else pissed off. Everyone cheats. No one's cheating. If everyone else pissed hot, then DNCAA would be like there must be an issue with the test. But then you forget that the NCAA is run by the SEC.
Starting point is 01:18:38 So they just be like, all right, you forfeit. That's true. Cool. Let's have Alabama play Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, we'll win. We'll see who the real best team is. Yeah, right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:18:47 All right, next up we have Mike Greenberg's dumb rules because he, wait, what are we going to do? We're going to fix onside kicks. Yeah, onside kicks, they used to be fun. They did. Well, they changed the rules and made it not fun. Yeah, so you can't line up for further than five yards behind the ball when you're doing an onside kick
Starting point is 01:19:03 or any other kickoff for that matter. Oh, wait, by the way, we got to give a prediction. National championship. OK. Go. 30. 35 to 31. Who?
Starting point is 01:19:14 That's it. OK. That's my prediction. 35, 31. I'm going to say 30. I'm going to say 40. No, no, no, I'll let you guys know on Wednesday's show which team was which.
Starting point is 01:19:24 I'm going to say 38, 28. Oh, OK. Yeah. 41, 14. OK, so obviously Alabama's 41. No, you don't know that. That's pretty obvious. No, you don't know that.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Yeah, Hank, it's not a yes. No, you don't know that. It's not a yes. You'll find out. OK. We were a real which team was which on Wednesday. Onside kicks. So they used to be fun and now they're not funny more
Starting point is 01:19:46 because I think the stat went from like 20% were recovered by the kicking team last year to now 8% are fewer. Yeah. That are recovered by the kicking team now. They changed the rules. So we should change them back or we should do something different.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Yes. And what the Seahawks did, I think they had the right idea. I think that drop kicks are actually the way to go because you can boot the shit out of those like really high into the air. Yeah. But Dixon just hit it. I think he misunderstood because he speaks Chilean
Starting point is 01:20:13 and Pete Carroll speaks YouTube conspiracy theory. Paul Joseph Watson language. And so he just kicked his like 40 yards downfield. But I really think that a drop kick hit like almost directly up in the air is the best way to do it. I would agree with that. I would love to see onside kicks. Now, this doesn't really go for the safety.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I'd like to see it just be one versus the whole team. OK. So you have to kick it to one side. And there's only one guy. That's it's just like that's impossible for that one guy. Why? Because there's like five or six other guys coming at you. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:20:46 That's the fun part. I know that is fun. Yeah, it's very fun. And it would always work. But you can only do them like you can only maybe maybe we limit to it one a game. OK. So you can only use one a game and you basically call it.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Maybe you give them two guys and you call them out and they have to kick it on one side of the field. So there's a zone where they have to almost land the ball. Yeah. And it's just one or two guys versus the rest of the team. And it's just chaos. I like the idea of having to declare that you're doing an onside kick because the rule change won't work
Starting point is 01:21:16 if you're doing it like surprise onside kick. Right. So you have to declare, OK. This is my onside kick is coming. Yep. And you can't. Yeah, like the kicking team can't run it back. So it's dead ball right away.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And it's like seven versus two on that side. What about if there are two balls? I like that. So like exact same rules as they are now. And if you can kick two balls at the same time and both, if you recover one of them, then your team, then the kicking team gets the ball. No, here's what I like a little amendment to that rule.
Starting point is 01:21:45 If you recover its first team to get both balls. So if you recover one, you've got to kick again. OK. If each side covers one, kick again. OK. And it's just you keep doing it until one side gets both balls. I like that, too. So it's tough to get, but it also would be fun.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Yeah, what if you just. Or maybe three balls, and it's whoever has two out of three. That works. OK. I like that. Yeah, but they're labeled ball one, three, and four. Oh, shit. And so then everyone spins the entire quarter looking for ball
Starting point is 01:22:13 two. Oh my god. Where is it? Where is it? Or how about this? If you kick it from the tee and it hits off at least one upright, maybe two uprights. If you can bounce it off two uprights,
Starting point is 01:22:23 then your team gets the ball. I like that. Or you have a specialist right now on your squad. Fuck you. Why do you do that? What if they have to? Why? They have to kick or can kick at full speed of the other team.
Starting point is 01:22:34 And the person that touched it has to catch it or they get out of the way. And it goes out of bounds. That's exactly what it's like. That's what it is right now. No, but they kick it as hard as they can. But a lot of people do that right now. You know what?
Starting point is 01:22:48 At someone? Yeah. And you see that. And they have to catch it. I kind of like this idea. And if they drop it, then that person can't recover it. And it's free for all. How about you take the fattest player from the other team.
Starting point is 01:22:58 You make them stand 15 yards away and do butts up. And so he has to turn away. And you can hit him in his ass. I like that. Like just hit the guy. What about if you made the kicking nets, like an oversized kicking net, and you kick the ball into the net, and then everyone runs.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Everyone starts on a line of scrimmage, both teams. You kick the ball in the net and it's whoever can recover it. So you get like people getting tangled in the nets, injuries, weird shit happening. That'd be fun. I like that. Don't get caught in the net. Yeah, don't get caught in the net.
Starting point is 01:23:27 You got to play it off the net. Standard bullet. You get like one guy who's like, oh, he's unbelievable off the net. Yeah, you get net specialists. Yeah, right, right. I love that. OK, I think we solved it. OK, last up.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Soggy Sorrows fucking sucks. But here's how we're going to do it. PFC and I are going to get up right now. We're going to go to the bathroom, dump water on me. Bubba is going to be the only one in the studio on the mic. Bubba, what are you going to talk about? Let's talk about what you're going to talk about real quick so we can burn out what you're going to talk about.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Probably how you just been in a terrible mood. Fuck that. Why would you say that? What else would I talk about right now? We've already we've already covered that ground. Yeah, why don't you tell every tell them a story? No, tell them what like the hot new trends of 2019 are going to be. Yeah, what are you flexing on?
Starting point is 01:24:12 What are you dripping with? Either that or about how you lied about getting hit by a car. That too. Tell the hit by the car story. OK. OK, yeah, that'll be good. All right. Bubba's going to tell the hit by the car story.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I'm going to get water poured on me. All right, so feel pretty bad for Big Cat right now. So I got hit by a car in April. I left work, went for a jog, something I don't do very often. Probably shouldn't. And ran around a car that was double parked. And when I did, didn't see another car coming, hit me. I got flipped over it.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Basically shattered my entire ankle, broke my tibium fibula. And nobody here believes me about it. Specifically, all business Pete. He's way too woke. He's kind of a dickhead about it. And Big Cat is soaked. The water does not look great on the velour. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:30 OK, Bubba just told what I'm sure was the best story that you've ever heard. I'm soaking wet. The velour really wet. You're so wet. You're so wet. You remind me of. All right, so here goes Saga-Sarrows.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Big bowl of alvita. I'm soaked, and the bear season's over. The problem is, how would you, like, would they give videos of you, at least, to do look good? Why don't you shut up, Hank, let me talk. The problem is, when you watch a sports team, when you like sports, every year you get a little bit older. And things just kind of, you know, progress in your life.
Starting point is 01:26:10 You're like, can I keep doing this? And then you think about, like, hey, Khalil Mack's going to get a little bit older. The whole team's not going to be the same. There was the club dub thing. Like, you can't bring the club dub thing back. You can't do club dub again, you know? You can't do club L after this loss.
Starting point is 01:26:28 And everyone knows that you should have. You need, you need the L train. You need something. Shut that shit down. Use back of the week. You need something to galvanize the team, to sell t-shirts, that whole thing. Tony Cuomo.
Starting point is 01:26:44 And now we're fucked. This fucking sucks, man. I'm sorry. Hey, big cat, listen, as a Capitals fan, I just want to say that I've been there before and it gets better. Hey, you know what, PFT? It gets better.
Starting point is 01:27:02 The Capitals, listen, I'm already onto Monday. At least we have to wear a three-piece suit for us. I'm already onto Monday. Yeah, me neither, too. You know what, my good friend, Mike Dickel, once said, the past is for cowards and losers. So, yes, it's a little ironic that someone like that said that and the 85 Bears are like the only team,
Starting point is 01:27:19 the Bears history that we talk about. No, but if you, you know what I'm saying. If you win, then the past is cool. Yeah. But if you lose, then the past sucks. Fucking Cody Parky, man. Why? Why?
Starting point is 01:27:29 It got blocked. It got blocked. At least you didn't see it coming. I fucking hate you. Love you guys. I'm looking away while I'm at work. I was to say I didn't wait. Today is another day to find you, to shine away.
Starting point is 01:27:48 So I'll be coming for your love of dreams. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone, but I don't want to. Needless to say, I'm on the same page, but I'm being stolen away. Turn around and find peace, OK? Say it out to me.
Starting point is 01:28:22 It's the better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone, but I don't want to. It's part of my take presented by Bar Stool Sports.

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