Pardon My Take - Mike Florio, Wild Card Weekend, Bears Heartbreak
Episode Date: January 7, 2019Fastest 2 minutes for Wild Card Weekend (2:27 - 5:41). The Bears lost in tragic fashion and Big Cat is sad (5:41 - 17:17). Recapping the other games including what the hell were the Seahawks thinking,... can the Colts make the Super Bowl, and the Chargers have that road mojo (17:17 - 36:40). Who's back of the week (36:40 - 45:16). Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joins the show to recap Wild Card Weekend, head coach openings, and Antonio Brown's situation in Pittsburgh (45:16 - 67:46) . Segments include Mike Greenberg's dumb rules, Stay Classy Tony Romo, Kings stay Kings Nick Saban and some National Championship preview talk + Soggy Sorrows. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Mike Florio, pro football talk.
We recap all Wildcard weekend.
Football is pretty dumb, so we don't really touch on it too much, whatever.
There was games Saturday.
We're more of a college football podcast.
We got the national championship to focus on tonight.
It's basketball season.
Oh, I fucking forgot about the national championship.
Yeah, we got to talk about that.
Time to move on.
So we have a good fun show, sure, whatever.
Let's do it.
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Today is Monday, January 7th.
Wild card weekend.
We start in Houston where the cults aren't doctors,
despite Jim Ursay's continuous quest for prescriptions.
But they did stay in a TY Hilton last night.
Andy Bernard Luck showed everyone who was big tuna this Saturday.
Stanford ever heard of it as he linked up with Eric Ibronosaurus,
sticking his neck out for a big first quarter score.
Quentin Tarantino Nelson was an inglorious bastard.
Only this time, Little Reich got a win as he leveled his five finger death punch
on the Texans pass rush all afternoon long.
Deshaun Watson in Homes didn't have any good critical reception,
except for a Kiki challenge that was upheld.
Kiki is at a touchdown while you're driving.
Did you lose possession of the ball before the pylon?
Is that a touch back?
And the whole of Bill O'Brien's chin will be around for another year
as there's no spare pinkies to plug it up.
Colts 21, Texan 7.
We stay in Texans where they didn't use Kerry Russell Wilson
as a Russian threat enough against the Americans team in their QB spy.
Tyler Westside locking out.
Sosa locking out.
Tried to make Dallas say,
but Blake Charles Jarwin and the Cowboys have evolved into an upright standing position,
except for Alan Hurd, tough to watch.
America was so wrong for so long about Jason Derulo Garrett.
Jason Derulo.
What to say now, haters, as Dak Prescott Van Pelt got his team a win
and better, so bad, bad.
Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.
Some spread.
Jason Derulo.
In Charm City, it came down to the wire,
putting the words of my good friend, the Maher Randy Jackson,
from, from, from, from, from, from Louisville Boom.
That's going to be a no for me dog for the Ravens advancing.
Eckler got Austin Space, but Melvin Gordon Lightfoot got the team back
on care, carefree highway to victory.
Mike, turn in your gun and Badgley outkitched Justin Chris Tucker
and had the Ravens fans home before rush hour.
Don't you ever touch a black man's radio.
Love that movie, boom.
Adrian Grenier Phillips knows you have to make Aquaman,
Aquaman, beating the Ravens before you can star in Medellin,
taking it to the Patriots in Foxboro.
The San Diego Superchargers 23.
Ravens 17.
Whip, whip, whip.
Fumble.
We finished in the city of big shoulders,
and you know what they say about guys with big shoulders.
They've got big nicks, foals, that is.
Abercrombie and Fitchell Trebisky was a trendy pick to get to the Super Bowl,
but he arrow postowed one too many throws.
That's French for airmail, boom.
Zach, I want a girl with a short arts and a crisp long jacket.
Said this game is a piece of cake for the Eagles.
Hey, Tige, what do Courtney Parky and Vince Vaughn's character
in the Chicago-based comedy The Breakup have in common?
What?
Who?
They're both pole locks.
Eagle 16, Bears 15.
All right.
Wildcard weekend.
And I'm sure there are a lot of people that are tuned in to see
Suicidal Big Cat.
So, and you are in luck because he's here.
Listen, December 23rd, 2018.
At Barstool Big Cat.
That's me.
Parky will kill us all and we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Is this oral retweeting?
You're oral retweeting yourself?
I mean, I don't really know what to say.
You have been saying for months.
For months.
I even tried to cut him in preseason.
You have a tweet from Augustine.
You personally cut Cody Parky.
Didn't you say something to Matt Nagy about the kicking position too?
Right pace.
I was like, dude, stop pranking us.
So, obviously the Bears lost in heartbreaking fashion.
The dreaded double-doink.
Never seen that before.
Well, you never watched WWE as a kid?
No, not really.
The two doinks?
I watch real sports.
So, I don't really know what to say because I was expecting it.
I liken it to a slow punch aimed directly at my nose that I've just been staring for
three months and I can't move my body out of the way.
And then it happened.
So, part of me is like, damn, I can't believe this happened.
What the fuck?
And part of me says, you know what?
Like, NASA wouldn't have me go fly a spaceship to the moon.
Don't rule yourself out.
They wanted Lance Bass to do it.
They could very well ask you.
And what I mean by that is they wouldn't put me in a place to not succeed.
Why did we put Cody Parky in a place that he was not going to succeed?
And I did see, obviously, the replay.
It might have been tipped.
Yeah.
It might have been tipped.
I'm not going to be one of those guys who sits here and say, fuck Cody Parky.
What the fuck?
He was not a good kicker all year.
And then he was not a good kicker in the playoffs.
So, whose fault is that?
Well, so, I think it did get tipped.
Yeah.
One of those, like, the Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away situations when it comes
to fingertips this weekend for you.
Well, we'll get to that.
But that's actually a good point about the Lord because Cody Parky, remember, he just
Jesus, he said he's going to trust Jesus.
Trust him what I'm doing and trust that the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ makes no mistakes.
So, if you want to blame anyone, it's actually Jesus.
As we've said, Jesus had bad luck with crossbars too.
Yes.
So, I actually have some spin zones for you that I wrote down.
Well, I have some.
And you can, yeah, I do too.
You can tell me which ones you think work for you or if you have more that you'd like
to add to the list.
Okay.
I have some as well.
So, since it got tipped, you'll probably bring Cody Parky back next year.
So, he's probably going to be better next year.
Nope.
That doesn't work.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Well, my fourth one was going to be the Packers are sitting at home.
Yes.
The Packers record was six and nine this year.
Just remember that.
Okay.
I will remember that.
A healthy Aaron Rodgers, somewhat healthy Aaron Rodgers went six and nine.
Okay.
Better to lose now than lose in the NFC Championship game.
I don't know about that.
For me personally, everyone was like tweet at me being like, hey, you must be so happy
with how sad Big Cat must be.
No, we leave that to the Giggle Twins.
That's not true.
Yeah.
Liam and Hank, they're the Giggle Twins.
Bubba and Hank, they're the ones that can laugh at us.
Because guess what?
We're the men in the arena.
Yes.
And we know true heartbreak.
I would never do that to you.
Yeah.
But I really wanted to see you like more suicidal later on.
I wanted you to experience some success before I could laugh at you for your failure.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Sure.
This feels too early.
Yeah.
But there wasn't a chance of like, this was a heart breaking game versus if they just
lost in a blowout, it wouldn't have been the same.
But I never, I think you guys would agree.
I never got full cocky about this Bears team.
I always was saying like, there are things that are not 100% like the defense is dominant,
but it's not a complete, complete team.
And there are pieces to it.
They could run the table and they could just as easily lose like they did on Sunday.
Okay.
Mitch is basically a rookie.
Yes.
That's true.
Okay.
So next year in his second year in the system, he'll be good.
Ben Simmons.
Yeah.
Exactly.
The parade would have been super cold.
That would have been uncomfortable in Chicago in February.
Go back to rookies.
Speaking of rookies, Kevin White's still a rookie.
There you go.
Still a rookie.
There you go.
Champagne is basically all empty calories and you don't need any of that right now.
That's part of my, that's part of my spin zones.
Okay.
Better draft pick.
Yes.
True.
True.
Moving on up.
True.
Wait, we don't own our draft pick.
Fuck.
He didn't hit.
The Raiders have it.
Cody didn't hit three uprights.
Also true.
Could have been worse.
Could have been way worse.
I, I thought that was in.
I really did.
When it don't, I was like, Oh, it don't.
It went in and it took me a second to realize when they came out and I was like, wait, what,
it was, it was so dramatic because I was waiting for the refs.
I had no idea if it had gone in or not.
Yeah.
And then they did it.
That's a tough one.
It was though.
All right.
So here are a couple of my spin zones.
Packers record six and nine.
I have all my fingers.
We all have all of our fingers.
We still are a podcast with 40 full fingers.
That's pretty good.
I'm on a diet.
So like my back doesn't hurt as bad.
That's pretty good as well.
Okay.
We still have the number one sports podcast.
Oh, that's, yeah, we can always fall back on that.
Actually, this is good for business.
Yes.
It always is.
The hard broken is really, really great.
It's like work really, really hard to get an A-lister guest or just have one of our
teams just losing a heartbreaking fashion.
They're both the same.
They both will get the same amount of numbers.
I'm trying to think what teams we can adopt that are, that are really, really shitty and
always lose.
Well, we are, we do like the Browns.
They are America's team.
By the way, I think that they are, we'll get to this later, but Browns, it's looking
good for you guys next year.
Really good.
For all of us.
Yeah.
For all of us.
My last point was football is stupid anyway.
And I'm obviously more of a basketball guy.
No, that's not true.
I don't even like football.
It's like, it's such a waste of time.
You're a fake fan.
Is that what you're saying?
I just hate it.
It's like so stupid.
So random.
You're not invested in anything.
You know what?
I'm going to cancel football.
Football?
You're canceled.
If the ball had just like come to a perch on the upright, bounced off one, like the upright
and then on the crossbar.
I don't know who had the possession arrow.
No, we did.
It just chills there.
You guys did.
Yeah.
We had to jump ball.
It's a home team.
Yeah.
So here's another one for you.
Trabisky actually did throw two good passes on that last drive.
He threw a bunch of good passes.
It didn't matter.
What do you say?
You don't have to wear pants for three and a half weeks.
Yeah.
That's right.
It's jumpsuit January.
True.
True.
I have worn the same jumpsuit two days in a row.
Which one?
This one.
We don't have to travel.
You can buy it.
Barstow Sports Stores Velour.
That's kind of nice.
No big deal.
We don't have to go out to LA.
Would have been nice to go to LA.
For Jared Goff to rip your heart out.
I was actually thinking about if we had gone to LA to do something fun for all four of
us to go to the game, we do like a, we randomly dose one of us with a shitload of edibles and
just see what happens.
Oh no.
That went well last time.
Yeah.
That went too well.
I hope it's not me.
All right.
So I want to talk about the game for a second because you brought up the Trabisky thing.
Mitch played a bad first half and I don't even blame him.
I actually think Matt Nagy, like he, he kind of turtled in the moment and I think he's
a very, very good coach and I'm sure he'll learn from it, but they just didn't throw
the ball outside the numbers or down the field whatsoever.
And then the second half, they're like, oh yeah, the Eagles have like maybe the worst
secondary in the league and we should maybe try to get some, scheme some guys open and
throw it downfield and hey, guess what?
It worked.
So that was baffling to me.
And I will give credit, Nick Foles, the Eagles offensive line was unbelievable.
They basically kept Clio Mack in the past rush, pretty much, pretty much clean all night.
Yep.
And Nick Foles, I don't know what's going on.
I do not understand it.
He throws balls up that like, you know, you just say that's got to be intercepted and
it just sticks there and then Golden Tate will get like a 20 yard reception or Alshon
Jeffrey will jump somewhere.
And I said it while we were watching the game, I was like, Golden Tate was always a Bears
killer when he was for the Lions.
And then guess what?
He gets the fourth down, fourth and goal touchdown to seal the victory.
I don't want to be one of those guys that immediately says, okay, Foles is a better quarterback
than Carson Wentz.
But I do think when it comes to the offensive line, there's something about blocking for
a guy like Nick Foles as opposed to blocking for a guy like Carson Wentz, like, I know
Nick Foles is basically a statue.
He's going to be in the pocket.
I know where I have to block my guy.
He gives him a clean pocket a lot and he's able to make some weird throws that just happen
to work for him every, it has to be the month of January for it to work outside January
all bets are, or February, all bets are off.
He's something is going on where the Eagles, I mean, credit to them.
They came into and beat the number one defense on the road.
Is Nick Foles going to write another book?
Probably.
He probably is.
I guess, I guess we actually found out because Jesus was on their side.
Jesus was that.
Foles was Jesus rooting for the Eagles.
I just, I don't, again, I saw it coming.
We all saw it coming.
This isn't also, this isn't like, I'm trying to say that I'm a prophet because anyone who
watched the Bears this year, Cody Park, you missed 11 kicks, I think.
Yes.
There's, everyone knew this was coming and everyone knew our worst nightmare was a close
game down the stretch, need a field goal to win the game.
Look what happens.
And it happened.
And I just like football is canceled.
I have canceled football, don't even play the rest of the playoffs.
It's stupid.
Everyone kind of agrees, right?
No.
Hard to agree.
Like people get bad injuries.
No.
Alan Hurts, you see that, man?
That was terrible.
Don't do that.
Don't, don't have them hurt themselves.
I will not sit here and have you slander the NFL just, I understand that you're hurting
right now.
They're hurting themselves, man.
Right now your heart looks like Alan Hurts.
It sounds like you could use some, some liquid to go with your sorrows right now.
We're going to do it later.
Yeah.
We'll do soggy sorrows later.
Giggle twins.
Liam and, Liam and Hank just giggle in my veins.
Another spin zone.
Stop being funny.
You're now free to totally open up and root for Phillip Rivers, these playoffs.
Open up your heart for Phil.
What about Jared Goff?
Well, yeah, he's our, we're rooting for a Los Angeles Super Bowl.
Okay.
Fine.
Well.
Yeah, we are.
That's right, Hank.
You heard me.
Fuck everything, man.
You heard.
Stupid football.
Sports are dumb.
Football's awesome.
Sports are dumb.
I have a question for you, big guy.
I wish I was like, you know what?
I'm going to read this week.
Okay.
I'm going to read a book.
Listen.
Watch me now.
I'll sit here and I'll listen to you say that you're not going to watch football anymore,
but once you start talking about reading books, no, I didn't have to stop you.
I bought Art of the Deal.
Yeah, you're just scared I'm going to negotiate the shit out of you.
Dude, I've already, I've already read every Trump book.
Oh, okay.
You ever read Think Big and Kick Ass?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've read that one.
Yeah.
I live my life that way.
Kicking your ass in my mind.
This whole show because you won't stop slandering the NFL.
Maybe have Cody Parky read that one because he doesn't kick anyone's ass.
He would hit my ass into the goal post.
Yeah.
It was a big ass.
Yeah.
It's just right there.
You think you could hit an ass?
Yeah.
If you just, if everyone just mooned him right behind the goal post,
he would be able to hit Larry Fitzgerald's ass.
All right.
Let's talk about the rest.
Let's talk about it.
I do have a question for, about you, about Matt Nagy for you.
Yes.
So what's up with the BU thing on his place?
It's got to be you.
Is he schizophrenic?
No.
Why does he need to be reminded who to be?
It's, I mean, are you really asking this?
It's a football guy, like a football guy's right sayings to themselves like that.
Hey, remember to be you.
It seems like a football guy that's listened to one too many TED Talks.
Well, you know what?
I wish he had written it a little bit bigger because in the first half he was not himself.
Yeah.
He was not.
He was trying to win a game nine to six.
It's more like Mitch will hopefully, you know, not make any mistakes, but that's how
you, what is it?
What's the, what's the point break saying?
Fear.
The weakness of the body.
Look up point break fear and read it to me, Hank.
Let's talk about the other games.
I'm done.
The footballs canceled.
Except I still have all my pinkies.
So let's go to that game.
And also we can gamble.
We can always gamble.
Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true.
And so hes hesitating in the first half.
That is exactly what happened to Matt Nagy in the first half.
It was RIP Bodey.
It was PU.
Yeah.
RIP Bodey.
Yes.
Exactly.
Well, 50 year wave, dude.
So Coltsy never saw him die.
That's true.
He might still be alive.
He's probably just floating around.
Eddie would go.
Colts.
That was all, that was all my surfing all in one.
Colts Texans.
I still have my pinky.
I was never really worried because that was the Texans.
Like the Texans, now credit to Colts because I think the Colts could actually go to the
Super Bowl.
They, what they did to the Texans defensive line was incredible.
Yes.
But I just will never trust the Texans.
I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's Bill O'Brien.
Maybe it's that stadium.
Maybe it's just like the helmet.
Something about the Texans, I will always look at them and be like, well, they're about
to just drop a clunker on Saturday afternoon.
It's tough to get past having Brock Osweiler as your starting quarterback without having
that, that stench kind of linger around for a while.
Right.
Like this is the organization that thought that this was a good idea.
They need to go on a miraculous run where they were maybe set, they win the AFC South
at seven and nine or something.
I thought you were going to say they have to kill Brock Osweiler.
Yeah, that too.
But they have to do something that, where they come out of nowhere because they are
that team that every year, if they, if they went 12 and four every year, but like still
not a threat.
Yeah.
Still not a threat.
Yeah.
I, obviously we had the pinky bet.
It was thrilling.
It was three months of excitement.
I think unfortunately what happened here was I'm addicted to it and next year I'm going
to pick a team to cut my pinky off.
They won the school.
You're going to be chasing the dragon.
I am going to be chasing the dragon.
So we'll have to figure out.
I'm just going to get a drug addiction.
That sounds like, it sounds way easier to me.
We have to figure out.
I'll bet my liver.
We have to figure out the stipulations.
What was the, how many games was it after five?
I think they were two and three and then they won seven in a row after that.
You're going to have to pick a team after the five after five, so I have to be under
500.
No.
Cause I think that that, I think more often than not the team under 500 after, I think
five games isn't going to go anywhere.
I actually think they were way worse than two and three.
I think they were like one and five at some point.
No, they started 0 and three and then they won nine in a row.
You think of the Colts?
Colts started one and five.
That's right.
Yeah.
We'll figure it out later.
But just so you know, that was just like a lot of people are like, Oh man, that's too
bad.
I want to see the pinky bet go a little further.
That was just chapter one of the pinky bet.
It's going to end with me losing a pinky at some point in the future.
Yeah.
Like I will not stop this bet until I cut off the tip of my pinky.
I think, I think that's where I'm at at life.
So do we, are we officially on board the Colts possibly being a Super Bowl team?
Cause I don't think that I am.
Okay.
Talk it out.
Well, now I'm starting to think myself into it.
So next week they play the chiefs.
They will block, they will block the chiefs and they will be able to throw on the chiefs.
They will block the chiefs.
They will block the chiefs.
That ain't it chief.
Okay.
And they, no, they, I think they have everything.
Of course it's, we've always said the, the, the, this podcast, we've always said the NFL
is so random, but I do think the Colts have all the pieces to get to the Super Bowl.
Okay.
And this, this final four in the AFC, all four of those teams are good.
You know what we are?
We're one week from the rivalry officially being back on again.
Yes.
Colts Patriots possible matchup.
Ooh.
But don't you think that like the, the AFC has four, two, three.
I do.
So you could see all four.
The NFC, I think, I think we're headed for Ram's, Ram's two.
Yeah.
I agree.
And I think that the Saints win that.
At home.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be Saints at the NFC.
Yeah.
And then yeah, any team from the AFC, I could see winning the Super Bowl actually.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Except for the Patriots.
Okay.
Patriots really have what it takes.
Well, I mean, I actually would say the chiefs are the only team that I would, I would throw
out there because they're defense.
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying that to piss Hank off a little bit also because I very much want
it to be true.
I think I, I am slightly concerned about Phil Rivers having the team of Destiny Field.
Okay.
And then our stat of the day, Phil Rivers, the, the, the chargers have yet to lose outside
the state of California.
So it's season.
So it's a problem for them if they win and the Colts win.
Correct.
Because then they go back to.
They go back to their little, but it's a, it's a bonus for all of us because we get
to get an AFC championship game in a soccer stadium, which would be hilarious.
And they just changed the name.
It's not even the StubHub Center anymore.
It's called, it's back to like what original name was.
Seeky center.
Seeky center.
Yeah.
Seeky.
It's something like the, the like home healthcare awareness center.
Yes.
So, so the Texans, so the Colts move on the Texans.
See you later.
Let's go to the night game.
I got a question for you.
What the fuck were the Seahawks thinking?
PFT.
They were thinking Pete Carroll doesn't want to run the ball back in 2014.
So now we're going to run the ball every fucking play until the end of times.
So now they're thinking like Pete Carroll and, and shot and Hymer, by the way, shot
and Hymer, the cross, the crucifix that he was wearing, week over week got bigger and
bigger and bigger.
Mike Singletary level.
Yeah.
I think he's just trying to like ingratiate himself.
The Russ Wilson just be like, Hey man, we're on the same team at the end of the day.
He must think there's a vampire on his team at some point.
Yeah.
So if they're playing against garlic, I think that they had it, they had it made, but it
was terrible play call.
It was awful play call.
Just like handing the ball to Chris Carson standing still on his heels.
It was, and it was not only that, but it was so clear to everyone who was watching
that you couldn't run on the Cowboys.
And you have Russell Wilson, who's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
They threw Russell Wilson through the ball before the final drive, which obviously was,
it wasn't, it wasn't garbage time, but they were down 10.
He threw the ball 21 times before that 21 times, 21 pass attempts, which is insane.
And I think they were, they were averaging like eight yards per pass attempt and two yards
per rush.
And then every first down, they'd run it and run it and run it and run it to nothing.
Yeah.
It was insane.
Yeah.
It was very weird.
And then on the other side, Dak is going to get a bajillion year extension.
We're going to talk to Mike Flurry about that a little bit.
I didn't think, I wasn't that impressed with Dak.
Ezekiel Elliott's awesome.
He's, yeah.
He's very, very good.
And when, when he's playing, they can handle the ball, you know, 30 times a game if they
want to.
He's the difference.
You know how the running back position in the NFL has kind of been diminished a little
bit.
Everyone says, well, you can get a replacement guy.
Why draft a guy high?
Ezekiel Elliott is why there's still a difference between the guys at the top and the guys right
below it because he makes plays like two or three plays in a playoff football game that
Ronnie had at the end of the game where he stiff armed the Seahawks player and stayed
in bounds.
He still farmed the dude by the other dude's hand.
It was unbelievable.
He held his hand.
He couldn't do that to his brother.
Nope.
Stiff armed his hand and knocked him down to the ground.
And it was probably, I don't know, he and Saquon Barkley, maybe Todd Gurley, like there's
three or four guys who can do that play and that's why you pay a running back for that.
That play for the end of the game, when you're trying to salt the game away, when you're
trying to run to win, that's what you pay him for.
I've noticed he's also gotten better since he started wearing jerseys that covered his
stomach.
Yes.
And did you, have you also noticed that his hair is so crazy that like it comes out in
weird ways out of the holes of his helmet?
Yeah.
That's pretty cool.
And it looks like a vagina hair.
I kind of like it.
Yeah.
Like a 70s porn star.
Yeah.
Out of the side.
It's pretty funny.
You saw that hole and was like, Oh, wow, just, it looks like cubes to you.
Yeah, I did.
It really did.
And like, cause it's, it's stuffed in there.
You know what I mean?
So it's not, his hair is just coming out, but not in a natural way.
And it's like, Whoa, what's going on there?
I think anyone who had a lot, has a lot of hair with the helmet and it just comes out.
It's like, Hey, what are you thinking now?
Yeah.
They're entrapping you into thinking about porn.
You know, Jerry Jones has taken a look at them and been like, Hey, back in my day, tell
you what, Jerry Jones, what a, what a moment he got his big time playoff win.
Now he has to go to LA.
He's going to live it up in LA.
Oh yeah.
He's there already.
Although he's on the bus on the way there right now.
Yes.
And I don't know.
Do you buy the cowboy?
I mean, like I do, but I don't.
I think the Rams are going to kick the shit out of them.
Yeah.
It's so weird because that was a game to me and I don't want Cowboys fans to get upset
because Dak Prescott did make that big play and he made a bunch of big plays and their
defense is legit, but that was a game to me that if the Seahawks just used a little bit
of common sense, they would have won that game.
They definitely could have won that game.
Right.
If they, if they had changed their game plan at all, starting in like the second quarter.
Yeah.
Because as I've said many times, Chris Carson is an awesome running back.
Yes.
But I don't get the obsession with handing somebody the ball when they're standing still
in the shotgun formation and letting the defensive line get a push on them and linebacker start
running at them.
Right.
And the Seahawks love that.
Right.
There's nothing I hate more in life in anything, the number, my number one thing that I hate
in life.
Nazis.
Well.
Yes.
I, I did think, yeah, but handing the ball to a running back out of the shotgun formation
is number two.
It looks cool though.
No, it doesn't.
It does.
Sometimes it out of the pistol.
It looks awesome.
It looks pretty cool.
Sometimes I have a shotgun.
It's just a draw.
Thank you.
Nice little draw.
The, um, we also have to mention one of the all time beats if you had the Cowboys minus
two and a half.
So Janikowski gets injured, which look Sebastian Janikowski has been in the league forever.
And I think we all kind of love him because he's the fat guy who, who kicks, but was that
not like the least surprising thing when, when a fat guy does something somewhat athletic
and like grabs his leg, you're like, yup, that was coming.
Like we all knew that one was going to happen.
Him and Michael Bennett should just switch shoulder pads.
Yeah.
He wears the biggest, he wears like 19 early nineties, Randy Moss, uh, high school highlight
tape short.
And zero alterations to his jersey.
Yeah.
It hangs so, so long.
He just like puts his on, I go out, I kick the ball.
So he gets hurt and then the Seahawks have to go for two point conversions for the rest
of the game and no field goals.
So at the end of the game, they get down, they're down 10.
The line is two and a half and they score and have to go for two.
They get it.
They cover in a miraculous way and relatable Revelle.
Could you imagine?
No.
Could you imagine walking into work tomorrow and having to talk to the guy who had cowboys
minus two and a half at the water cooler?
I would, it would be crazy.
I couldn't because I actually had, I had the Seahawks and so I, at the very end when
that happened, I just, I thought it was just for me.
I was like, you know what?
This is my reward.
Yes.
For watching football all day today is I get a nice little backdoor cover at the end.
Did you see Revelle's new thing is he just tweets out like people making bets?
He's like, some guy, some guy made a $300,000 bet at this casino.
It's like, okay.
And, and then he just, he just lists bets.
Yeah.
List people making bets.
It's all, it's all Floyd Mayweather.
Yeah.
It's like, okay.
Floyd texts me every time you go to a casino.
All right.
Last game, Chargers Ravens.
Yes.
Uh, the Lamar Jackson crew had to eat a little crow, no pun intended for the Ravens, but
they did cause he was terrible in that first half, made a little bit of a game of it in
the second half, but man, he looked like he didn't, he had never touched a football.
Yeah.
Well, he did that thing in the, in the very first drive where he fumbled the ball and
then picked it back up.
And I was like, that was cool.
Yeah.
That's a play that not every quarterback can make, even though I'm pretty sure he just
threw the ball away later.
Yeah.
Um, but yeah, he's stunk it up.
He's stunk out loud for the first two quarters to the point where they almost put Joe Flacco
in.
What do you, what do you mean?
You're saying like you have to play really bad to put Joe Flacco in.
Yes.
Okay.
Really, really bad.
No, that's not true.
Um, you have to be so desperate to be like, Hey, we don't, it actually put Joe Flacco
in only when you're like, Hey, the game is so far out of reach that we don't want Lamar
Jackson to get hurt.
Right.
So now we'll put Joe Flacco in.
Well, that's not very fair to you, to me and other, other Joe Flacco fans out there.
Joe Flacco, but, but Joe Flacco was ready to play if called upon and then after the game,
when they asked him about, he said, if there's one thing you can say about Joe Flacco, he'll
always say the right thing.
Yeah.
He might suck.
That's like after the game, he won't throw anybody under the bus.
After the game, they're like, were you thinking about going in and he goes, no, man, don't
give me that.
This is Lamar's team and you know, he was going to go out there and make some plays
and we're all behind him.
So like Joe Flacco, that was worth at least $80 million for him to say that right there.
He says and does all the right things.
Joe Flacco has gone from elite to decent teammate post game superstar.
Good guy.
Good guy, Joe.
Good guy, Joe.
No, but Lamar played bad enough to get bench after the first half.
And I was thinking that he was going to get bench, um, but the fact that he didn't,
I think that the Ravens mostly didn't bench him because that screws everything up every
year.
Everything.
Everything.
It starts an entire off season of what are we going to do?
Absolutely.
And this was also a game where Justin Tucker, one of the most, probably the most reliable
kicker in the NFL.
He basically, no, I don't want to say he lost the game, but when you're different, if you're
down three with the ball at the end of the game and you got a guy who can hit a 60 yarder
versus down six, when he missed a kick that he always makes, hmm, yeah, Justin Tucker
and Badgley, that was the Chargers kicker.
Yeah.
So the Chargers have a long storied history in that franchise of kickers that absolutely
of Cody Parkes.
Yes.
That, that are not very good in the postseason.
Yes.
Um, what was it?
Nate, Nate Cating that missed three.
That was mean of you by the way.
I'm still like a little slow from the game, like, don't do that right away.
I was just trying to relate to you on something that you might name for a while.
Yeah.
Nate Cating, remember him?
Yeah.
So he missed three back in the playoffs, but it was shocking that the, the Chargers now
have a kicker that made five.
Yeah.
I think he made five out of six today, which is pretty impressive.
That is impressive.
Yeah.
So Phil Rivers marches on.
I'm so excited to watch Phil Rivers some more play.
This is the year of Phil.
Like we've had the season of Phil and watching him get mad at refs and scream and yell.
And hopefully it all ends like close your eyes, think of the Super Bowl, Phil Rivers
is down a score with a minute and a half left.
And it's the classic Phil Rivers drive, but this time he completes it.
This time they win.
Charlie Brown kicks the football.
Oh my God.
Would that?
I mean, he would have to retire.
Oh yeah.
He's absolutely.
You'd have to retire.
No, he would not.
He's too, he's way too spicy.
He's way too of a dog.
He still has the passion for it.
I think he just plays football because it gets him away from his family.
Yeah.
Like it.
That's, that's quiet for him.
Quiet is getting tackled by 11, 300 pound guys when you have nine kids at home.
It's like, that is actually better to me.
You're absolutely right on that.
And I also think there's a piece of him.
Like everyone knows that guy who loves to get in debates all the time.
You know, your friend who's like, yeah, no, yeah, no, you're not that guy.
No, no, no, there is that guy I am annoying, annoyingly like tries to get in arguments
and always is the contrarian.
I think that's a little bit of Phil Rivers and he just would miss fighting with refs so
much if he wasn't playing in the NFL.
Because he goes for it like instantly every single call, he's got to at least talk to
them about it.
That's true.
He does strike me as a guy that he doesn't feel alive unless he's being hated by someone.
Right.
And if you're at home around people that love you, it's like, what's the point?
This is gross.
This is stupid.
There's too many people.
How can I prove that I'm better than somebody if they agree with me all the time?
Right.
I would imagine he would dress like his oldest kid up in a ref uniform just so he can get
his practice in.
Yeah.
Then like, what do you see in there?
What do you see in strikes?
One guy has to wear the ref uniform every day and everybody else wears the Bolo tie.
Yeah.
And they all just scream at the ref kid.
They just get their practice in.
What I'm looking forward to is next weekend we've got Phillip Rivers and a running back
with a sprained MCL going up against the Patriots.
So this is his chance to avenge that loss back in 2007.
What do you think Hank?
What say you?
Are you nervous?
I'm a little bit nervous.
Kind of crazy how.
He's got that thing going.
He does.
They have the like team of destiny.
This is Phil Rivers last run type feel.
Kind of crazy how Antonio Gates, his career lasted longer than Rob Gronkowski's.
No, that's not true.
Antonio Gates looks so fat.
He does.
Yes.
He looks hilarious.
He's like a little ball.
He was never running full speed after he caught the catch even though it was at the end of
the game.
He was like taking his time getting up and running back.
He can still box people out though.
Yes, he can.
It's so great.
He just rolls down.
He's like a Pikachu character.
He's like a Pokemon.
Yeah.
He's like Kirby.
Remember Kirby, the video game?
He just sucked everything up.
Yeah.
He just rolls down the field with the ball.
I was going to say his body proportions are exactly that, the same dimensions of a
gummy bear.
Yeah.
He's like throw the ball to a gummy bear.
Yeah.
It will just stick inside of his belly.
Yeah.
And then you just roll on down.
All right.
So I'm excited for next weekend, even though football stinks.
Ooh.
You really think the Chargers are going to be the Patriots?
I think that they can.
I think they're really.
I think they can.
Yes.
I mean, like I said, like we said at the Star Show, every single team in the AFC right
now, in my opinion, has an equal shot at going to the Super Bowl.
What's the spread, Hank?
I haven't looked to probably like four and a half Patriots.
Tell you what.
I'll make you bet straight up.
I do think that the Chargers are going to win.
There you go.
I really do.
What do you want to bet?
Pinkies.
No, we're not betting pink.
Calm down.
Nice.
I mean, you guys, would someone say pinkie?
All right.
How about this?
If I win, you have to shave your entire beard.
Whoa.
Oh.
Chargers win.
You got to shave your beard.
That's bad.
That's bad.
Name your stakes.
No offense, but that's bad.
I mean, the only stakes like a name that's worse than that is you shaving your hair.
No, but you can't.
I can't cut it.
I can't cut all.
No, Hank.
No, anything but that, Hank.
No.
Winner gets to pick the loser's jumpsuit.
No.
No.
That's stupid.
That stinks.
You have to shave your beard.
You have to shave your head.
Like, what do you want me to say back to that?
You can't shave your face.
You can't have your fucking beard here.
Oh, hey, Sam.
This is what I need to make you feel better.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
Okay.
Well, it takes, it took me like three years to grow my hair out to this.
Like, it takes you what, like three weeks to grow that out?
Couple weeks.
All right.
Well, four and a half.
I mean, I sniped that there.
Okay.
Name something else.
Come on.
Hmm.
Well, now it's the stakes.
Oh, I got it.
I got one.
You ready for this, Hank?
PFT can't have soup for an entire month.
No, I don't, I don't really care about PFT soup.
And I know you will when I'm not there to defeat you.
I will.
I will.
I will.
I will.
100% never wear the suit in the original bet.
So I will definitely sneak soup.
You are right about that.
That is true.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe that for the rest.
Two months.
What about the rest of the jumpsuit?
January has to wear a real suit.
Yeah.
There you go.
That's it.
Three piece.
Okay.
Yeah.
Shout out.
That'll take a while to get here though.
Okay.
Well, we'll buy it.
You have to wear a suit.
Yeah.
Collared shirt, tie.
Yes.
Every day for the rest of January.
Okay.
And you have to shave your entire beard and keep it shaved.
No.
For the rest of January.
No.
If I have to wear a suit.
No.
I will shave my entire beard.
Yes.
And you have to keep it shaved for January.
For the rest of January.
That's fair.
If I have to wear a suit every day, then you should keep yours.
That's fair.
I will shave my beard once.
I'm not sure.
No, no.
Hank, I'm wearing a suit every day here.
No, but you have to.
No, I'll give this goatee, Hank.
Okay.
Look at this goatee.
Everyone calm down.
Everyone calm down.
I'm not going to clean shaven for the entire month of January.
Why?
That's fair.
He's doing the whole.
And you're bedding straight up.
And the Patriots, I'm giving you points.
All right.
Yeah.
Actually, whatever.
I don't even care.
Shake on it.
Shake on it.
There we go.
Shaking on it.
Right now, I'm watching it happen.
You guys are fucking pussies for not bedding a pinky.
But that will suffice.
All right.
Let's hot.
Let's do who's back.
You're going to.
The thing is, you sneak out of every.
I'm not going to sneak out.
I do not.
Always, always do.
I ain't.
If you sneak out of this bet, this actually will hurt.
Yes.
It will.
Then I'll develop a rep because he, no, but no, I'm saying the fact that he won't
be able to wear a jumpsuit for the rest of January will kill him.
Like that's.
That'll be bad.
That's his usual Sundays too.
On your birthday.
Oh, on the way to the Super Bowl on the way down to the Super Bowl.
We're going to be driving an RV down to Super Bowl.
That sucks.
But nothing's worse than Hank's.
Hank.
Without a beard.
That's like the worst thing I could ever wish on someone.
What?
I mean, I'm not.
I'm not worried at all.
I just, I love how big cats back now.
A little bit.
Do we got a game?
We got a little.
You got to bounce with your step now.
Liam, you want to bet pinkies?
No.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I did.
That is, that is look.
It's like a way to.
I'm just sitting here all glum.
It's like, Hey, want to go out and make a bet?
Yeah.
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
All right.
So what do we want to bet?
You want to do some national championship talk?
Let's do it with you.
We have a segment about Nick's saving.
Let's do it then.
All right.
Hank, go who's back?
My who's back is Game of Thrones.
Cool.
That was my who's back too.
Golden.
Really?
Yeah.
I wrote it down.
Yeah.
And the Golden Globes.
I guess there was a commercial where they had a three second clip of the newest season
of Game of Thrones.
Very cool.
Very cool.
So what happens?
Real relatable to this podcast.
There's some dragons.
Fucking idiot.
Danny's and John that.
Welcome to Winterfell.
Winterfell is yours, my lord.
To Danny's.
So that's a pretty big give up by Sansa.
Can we cut Hank?
The nice thing about you.
You ready for the call up?
You know what?
The nice thing about Game of Thrones spoilers is I don't even understand the language
he just spoke.
Hank's probably spoiling the shit out of the show right now.
I don't know what happened in the commercial.
Sansa did what?
She gave Winterfell to she.
Oh, she gave.
She gave Winterfell.
You never give Winterfell.
Yeah.
Not in the first date at least.
You got to make him work for it.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
And you can't take it back, right?
You can't take Winterfell back.
No, you can.
Oh, you can?
How?
That seems like a little bit like a shady move to just take it back and be like, hey,
I gave it to you.
Now I'm going to take it back.
Well, not me.
Usually a war happens to take it back.
Oh, that's what.
Oh, you win it back.
Now we're learning too much about Winterfell.
Okay.
Okay.
PFT.
What do you got?
That was it?
Are you going to get another one?
I had one, but you asked.
Okay.
For who's back.
My who's back of the week is swearing.
And Wayne Rooney.
Fuck.
He says, yeah.
Shit.
Damn.
Damn.
Wow.
Damn is really.
Bomba.
Damn is really a big time.
Yeah.
So Wayne Rooney was arrested in Dulles Airport for public swearing slash intoxication.
Wait, who?
Wayne Rooney.
He was?
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah.
So in Virginia, it's the same crime.
Public swearing.
And, and, and I guess you would call it, what, drunk in public.
Yeah.
In most states.
But yeah, it's the same crime there.
He knows if he was drunk or if he was cussing or both at the same time.
Maybe he ordered a Bloody Mary.
Wait.
At the bar.
This is a real thing?
And then British Bloody Mary is like the worst thing you can say.
This is the real thing?
Yeah.
You got arrested for swearing.
Probably, probably for being drunk.
Got it.
But in full disclosure, I have experienced with this exact crime.
Swearing in public?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, bad boy.
Big bad boy.
So he said it's a personal matter and request privacy at this moment.
Okay.
Nice.
Wayne, you have our privacy.
Let us know when you want to talk.
My other who's back is Imagine Dragons because they are playing half time tonight and ESPN
is just advertising for the Imagine Dragons halftime show.
Yes.
More than they're advertising for the national championship game.
Well, because.
For, with good reason.
Yeah.
No one's going to the game.
Yeah.
I don't know whose idea was to have a college football championship that more likely than
not will feature two teams from the south in fucking Santa Clara, California.
Yeah.
And San Francisco.
How stupid is that?
It's really.
Just do the college football championship in New Orleans every single year.
Yeah.
Like this makes no sense.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Have it in the Superdome.
Yeah.
No one complains.
Or in Atlanta, they built that whole new fucking stadium that I want to fuck.
Yeah.
With the butthole that closes up.
Let me fuck it.
Yeah.
Let me see some aerials.
Yeah.
So Imagine Dragons.
So the tickets are what?
Like 50 bucks now or something cheap?
Sounds cheapest.
Imagine Dragons concert.
I hate that.
I hate ticket.
Get in Twitter.
That's the worst.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, it's spirited by Darren.
But but yeah.
Hey, oh my God.
Last year it was this much to get in.
The only thing worse than ticket get in Twitter is TV ratings Twitter.
Oh yeah.
Like we were part of that for a while trying to analyze each piece of, you know, one day.
Yeah.
We were trying to analyze why TV ratings go up and down and each game to game and politics
and all that.
That Twitter sucks.
It's all about the leading.
It is all about the leading.
That's true.
Very true.
Yeah.
And the lead out.
Yeah.
Can you build on your lead in audience?
Right.
That's what they really look at.
And then leave it for your lead out.
All right.
My who's back is Fred Hoyberg because for some reason the Minnesota Timberwolves and
Chicago Bulls have like a weird docking situation going on with all their basketball minds.
They fired Tom Thibodeau, which is sad.
I feel bad for him.
He is.
He doesn't.
He's the type of guy who like, he doesn't have anything else besides basketball.
Do you know what I mean?
Like a basketball lifer, he's going to just show up to random high school basketball games
and try to coach the kids from the stands because he doesn't have anything else.
He might be like, what's his name?
What's his name's character in Hoosiers, the drunk guy, Dennis Hopper.
Is that his name?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
So I feel bad for him, but the Timberwolves are thinking considering to have Fred Hoyberg
be the new coach or GM, why and why?
That's really got to piss you off if you're Tom Thibodeau, right?
Yeah.
To have Fred Hoyberg just follow you around.
Yeah.
Just cucking you out of all your job.
I actually think Fred Hoyberg would make a decent GM.
I don't.
I think it was their assistant GM.
He played for him too.
Yeah.
And I, I get it, but I get the GM part.
The coach thing, I do not understand.
Here's the thing, if you're, if you're any middling NBA team out there, why not hire
Tom Thibodeau right now?
Yeah.
He's at least good to give you like a little bit of juice for a few months.
Oh, he will get the most out of you.
He'll come in and coach a shit out of you.
Yeah.
Until if you, if you're an NBA team that doesn't have a superstar, right, bring in Tom Thibodeau
right now.
Right.
Or if you have a guy who is like a borderline superstar, but a little bit lazy, bring him
in.
Yes.
Because he will kick the shit out of him and bring and get the best out of him.
And then he'll play 47 minutes every single night and eventually he'll get hurt and his
career will cut short, Joe Caminoa, but that doesn't matter because it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
He's going to juice you up.
He's got to the, the max of his abilities.
Yeah.
He's like steroids.
Yeah.
Really good short term.
Bad for your hips.
Bad, bad.
That might fuck you up long term.
Yeah.
Might fuck up the cranium a little bit.
Okay.
Let's do your balls.
Let's do our, our interview with Mike Florio, which we taped actually directly after the
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You'll probably notice it in my voice.
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Mike, I want to start tonight.
You're a Vikings fan.
No fan bases had heartbreak with field goal kickers, probably more than the Vikings.
Maybe the Buffalo pills.
What do I do?
I don't know because when it's just wide, right?
You don't have that extra agony where you think there's a chance it's still going to
go through, right?
You had the double like moment in time that's never going to go away where you think that
there was a chance it was going to go like when it just misses, it misses.
So I can't relate to much less one doing.
I can't relate to two doings and having it come forward when like one millimeter difference
and it would have gone through and it would have been the greatest field goal ever.
It goes from the greatest field goal ever potentially to the worst miss ever.
So you're saying that you would rather have that than a Blair Walsh like wide 10 feet?
I'd rather know.
I'd rather know and have it over with.
I don't want that extra tantalizing moment that never leaves you.
I thought it was in.
Yeah.
But the moment never goes away that you think it's in.
I thought it was in.
I just missed the damn thing.
Yeah.
I was second there before the refs went no good.
I was like, wait, I think that went in.
I would say a single doink is pretty bad.
The double doink, it extends.
You have like a full 0.75 seconds where you're not sure if it went in or not.
At least with a doink, it's just like a rejection.
Just stop.
Okay, let's move it down.
There's never been a triple doink.
I would, Mike.
What are the Ravens going to do with five points?
I think that's going to do with five points.
What are the Ravens going to do with Joe Flacco?
No, nobody cares about Joe Flacco.
Let's talk more about uprights.
Yeah, that was tough.
So do you have any words of encouragement for Big Cat?
Like, does it get better?
No, it never gets better.
And it never goes away.
I've been telling them that it gets better.
It will be with you for the rest of your life.
You will be thinking about it years from now.
Okay, that's good to know.
All right, Mike.
Let's talk about other stuff.
I don't want to talk about this.
And besides, we're putting this interview in the middle of the episode, so I probably
did all the stuff at the beginning.
I actually have a question for Mike.
Would you like to apologize to the Rulebook for screwing it up on Twitter when you said
that the incomplete pass should not have been ruled an incomplete pass?
Well, no, I expect an apology from Tony Corinthians for not explaining it a little bit better.
All he said is there was no clear recovery, so it's an incomplete pass.
You got to explain it by rule in a situation like this, where on replay, there's no video
evidence of a clear recovery that it becomes an incomplete pass because it was a catch.
How do you go from a catch to an incomplete pass simply because the ball ended up being
on the ground as a fumble and no one recovered it?
If anything, it should have been the bear's ball at the spot of the fumble.
That's the logical rule.
He should have explained it in that moment.
Don't just say there's no clear recovery, so it's an incomplete pass.
That makes no freaking sense.
Yeah, but a serious point.
Don't you think that they should make one of their little points of emphasis that they
love to do to tell the refs not to blow the whistle so early on all these fumbles?
Like you saw it in the last game of the season between the Browns and the Ravens.
You saw it in the Ravens Chargers game when it could have been a fumble return for a touchdown.
You saw it in the Bears game.
Are they going to sit down with the refs and be like, hey, let's focus
on keeping the whistles out of our mouths.
They got a tough balance to strike, though, because they don't want to let the play
continue beyond when it otherwise was over and then somebody gets injured.
And in these moments, and this is one of the things they were concerned about.
This is why they didn't want to make the catch rule something where there would be
more catches because with more catches, there are more fumbles and there are live balls
even after the whistle has blown.
And it's amazing to me that no one got that football because these guys are coached.
Go get that football.
Just pick it up.
It didn't have to be a mad scramble.
The ball's right there.
Somebody from the Eagles needed to pick it up at the moment it happened.
I thought somebody needs to pick that ball up because you never know what's going
to happen with the ruling on the field, whether it's an incomplete pass or a catch.
So I think these guys are coached.
They just blew it in that moment.
Both teams blew it because either team, if there's a clear recovery,
that's the team that has the ball at that spot.
OK, so moving on to the other games, screw that game.
The weird thing or the interesting thing about this wild card weekend,
I feel like all the teams that lost their arrow is somewhat
pointing up, so there's not going to be big changes.
But the Lamar Jackson, the Ravens game, it kind of looked like everything
that a lot of people have been saying that maybe he can't be trusted as a thrower.
It all came true in the playoffs.
Do you think the Ravens are going to be going to the next season like, hey,
this is our guy, or is there some doubt that creeps in, even though they finished
the season on such a great tear?
They made the strategic decision back when they draft and even before that,
they want to get back to old school football, Ravens football, run the ball,
have a quarterback who will run the ball, throw the ball.
You've got Greg Roman there.
For now, he may end up being hired somewhere as an offensive coordinator.
Marty Moringway was all in on this.
They've got Lamar Jackson to probably keep RG3, maybe even get a third quarterback
who can who can play the way that Lamar Jackson is playing.
It gets weird, though, if John Harbaugh ends up leaving and that door is not slammed shut.
I think the Dolphins will call.
I think the Broncos will call and find out what does it take
to get John Harbaugh and then what does it take to sign John Harbaugh?
But if they were going to extend it, they'd extend it by now.
He has all the leverage here.
The question becomes, how much do the Ravens want?
Knowing that after next year, he can walk away with no compensation whatsoever.
But John Gruden, when he got traded, essentially, to the Buccaneers,
the Raiders got two first round picks, two second round picks and $8 million.
And he was under contract for only one more year.
So I think the Ravens are going to want a lot.
What do you think the going rate is going to be for John Harbaugh?
I think it's got to at least be a first round pick, at least the first round pick
before the Ravens will do it.
Otherwise, we'll just keep him for a year.
And there could be some internal disagreement here because they value their draft picks.
You know, that whole compensatory draft pick process, and no one understands the formula.
The Ravens understand that formula.
They know how to sign free agents, what to do with free agents,
how to work that system to get maximum compensatory draft picks.
They know the value of draft picks.
So if it comes down to whatever the best offer is, and if you can get two teams in on it,
maybe you can get an auction going where it doesn't matter what you want.
They just keep bidding each other higher and higher.
But at some point, when the best offer is on the table,
you're going to have people, I believe in that Ravens organization,
to say, look, we only got this guy one more year anyway.
Let's take these draft picks.
Let's get more players and let's go hire our coach now.
How much of next year do you think factored in for Harbaugh when he was on the sidelines?
Or maybe even at halftime, when Jackson wasn't playing well and you've got Flacco on the bench.
How much of what he's going to be doing next year,
do you think factored into his decision to keep Jackson in there?
We know we were talking about that at NBC.
And Tony Dungey said, if he sticks with Jackson,
then that means he's committed to staying because he doesn't want to do anything
to undermine Jackson for next year.
If he goes to Flacco, then he just wants to win now.
And he's not thinking about next year because he may not be there.
And then I chanted and said, or he just wants to get it over with.
So he's sticking with the guy who's not playing very well and you get out of it now
and you can get on to your next job next year.
That that didn't go over very well.
But I guess you can't rule out that possibility.
You just thought, hey, you know what?
Let's keep the kid in and when it ends, it ends.
And we figure out what's going on for 2019.
But I think he wanted to do what he could to win.
I think after that missed field role, there was a spot there where I thought
they had to make the change, but they got that good field position.
And I think that was the spot where you go with Flacco.
But I felt like they wanted to keep going with Jackson.
It almost worked, but I just felt like it was so bad in the first half.
They needed to spark from Joe Flacco.
And I think Lamar Jackson would have helped some grudge about the point
where he would have been ruined next year.
He's a rookie for crying out loud.
They have a great backup who's available to come in and try to save the day.
Yeah. And you saw it in the playoffs.
I mean, it's always hard for rookies to win their first playoff game
0 for 3 on this weekend.
I want to move to the Saturday night game, though.
Dak Prescott, Jason Garrett.
What are you thinking?
Five years for Dak Prescott, 10 years for Jason Garrett.
What are their new contracts going to look like after winning one game?
You know, it's funny that the Cowboys have been talking about extending
Dak Prescott. They don't talk about how much they want to pay him.
Whatever they wanted to pay him, it went up on Saturday night
because he played at a higher level.
He elevated his game.
And I think that's where guys make their their money.
That's where guys make their legacies.
And that's where guys gain the confidence to be better
the next year and the year after that.
So he made himself a decent amount of money
and he may want more than what the Cowboys are willing to pay.
But I think that that they're in good hands with Prescott.
Now, with Jason Garrett, it can go all go off the rails next year.
But, you know, that Jerry Jones has been vindicated so far.
It was an impressive win against a very good Seahawks team.
Now we'll see what they can do on the road against the Rams.
Yeah, that quarterback draw made him probably 40 extra
million dollars, I would guess.
I wouldn't quite go that far. I wouldn't quite go that far.
I would. I go further.
Hey, you want to try me, Mike?
Yeah, 50 million. Come at me, bro.
I keep going. Yeah.
Sixty. You don't want this.
I think our perception of him definitely changed.
Didn't your perception of him change last night?
I know, I don't know.
I typically go with what Skip Bayla says.
I typically don't. Skip is in love with him.
Yeah, I typically don't base my entire opinion on one game,
but I will base my opinion on one game on the other side.
Brian Schottenheimer, he has to get fired.
Yeah, look, I don't know what they were thinking when they hired him.
I mean, we have seen time and again that he just doesn't take a team
to where it needs to go.
You need to unleash Russell Wilson more than they did.
I don't get it.
And Pete Carroll was very diplomatic after the game about, you know,
why they didn't run the ball more, why they didn't throw the ball,
why they didn't run the ball more with Russell Wilson.
It's like they kept, they were still committed to run, run, run, run, run.
They didn't throw the ball down the field until it was in a dire situation.
And it worked.
And I just think they should have been riding Russell Wilson more in that game.
I don't know that he gets fired after that, but I think next year,
Pete Carroll is going to be keeping a much closer watch on Schottenheimer.
They're going to bring him back, you think?
Who? Schottenheimer? Yeah.
I don't think they're firing after one year.
I don't know.
They're going to be firing after one game.
I mean, because they had a good year.
I mean, overall, the team was good.
They just, I think Pete Carroll needs to learn how to get more involved
in the offense, in those key moments.
What happened, you know, four years ago when the decision to pass instead of run.
I mean, I don't know whether he had a, had a chance to trump their old bevel,
but I just think the head coach needs to be ready to jump in.
I don't like it when the defensive coach tries to wash his hands of the offense.
I think he's got to be ready to get involved.
Well, he's learned his lesson from that, from that play call on the two-yard line,
but all he does is run the ball now.
They, they love running the ball at a shotgun more than any team I've ever seen
in my entire life.
Yeah. And I remember them doing that the year after, what was it?
The year after the Super Bowl loss, they did that against the Rams.
And, and Marshawn Lynch's mom was going nuts because they, they were running
the same play. It's so predictable. Same situation, same formation, same play.
They tried it on fourth down and got stopped.
So there's a stubbornness there on offense with the Seahawks that keeps coming back
to bite them. And they were too stubborn last night trying to stick to the run.
Okay. I'm ready to go back to the Eagles bears game, but I don't want to talk
about the bears. I want to talk about what the Eagles are going to do with Nick
Foles because this is incredible. This is incredible. I mean, he did it again
on the fourth, fourth down drive or sorry, the fourth quarter drive, fourth
and goal. He makes a big play. He's making big plays left and right.
He obviously didn't have a great first half, couple of interceptions, but what
do they do going forward? Because at some point, the guy who keeps winning
you playoff games, I mean, you can't just get rid of them.
Chris Sims and I spent a lot of time on this on PFT live after they beat the Rams
a few weeks ago and we all were kind of like, Hey, you know what? Maybe we need
to take this guy seriously. And I said that at some point between that game
and winning the Super Bowl, there's a conversation that needs to be had between
Doug Peterson, the coach, Howie Rosemann, the GM essentially, and Jeff Reeler,
the owner where they block out 45 minutes, they go in the big conference room,
they go to lunch and they talk about what they're going to do with Nick Foles
or Carson Wentz. And at some point, Foles does enough between that Rams game
and winning the Super Bowl where he's your guy and you trade Wentz. And I think
the moment is coming up next week when they play the Saints in New Orleans
because Wentz and the Eagles lost 48 to 7. I think it was the worst loss for a
Super Bowl champion in the following season ever. 41 point whitewash. If
Foles pulls it off again, if he's got one more rabbit up his ass that he can pull
out in that game, then I think that's the point where you have to say, You know
what? Carson Wentz is a better quarterback, but we're a better team with
Nick Foles and we just have to accept it and move forward with them.
Is there any world where they can say, Hey, listen, Carson, you get it.
We have something weird going on with Nick. Nick's being weird and he's very,
very good. And we're just going to ride him until the magic runs out. And if you
wouldn't mind just sitting on the bench until he starts to suck again, that
would be awesome. I know a lot of people are, I mean, I know you're being
slightly sarcastic in how you presented just a little bit. But not really,
not really, but I am. Yeah. It's the perfect take.
It is perfect. Yeah. I'm right either way. I'm the perfect take.
Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Think back to week one and week two when
Carson Wentz was close to coming back. I think Nick Foles is better because Nick
Foles was horrible the first two weeks. They won one. They lost one. That game
against the thousands. He was great. They went to Tampa Bay and they lost. And
this is a real dynamic. Chris Sims vouched for this one week when we brought
it up a few weeks ago. The idea that if Wentz is there and healthier, close to
it, Foles plays differently because then he starts thinking about what is the
mistake? What is the next mistake that gets me benched? Am I going to hold,
you know, you hold on to the ball a little too long. You try to be too
perfect because you know they've got Carson Wentz ready to go. So both guys
are healthy week one and Nick Foles is the starter week one. Nick Foles may not
play as well as he does when Carson Wentz is out of the picture. And it's
something that Foles would never admit. He wouldn't get his pet town petty, but
it's a reality. When you have a quarterback that you are thinking is good
enough to come in and do as well, if not better than me, I better be perfect or
they're going to put him on the field. And I think that Nick Foles will be
better if Wentz is out of the picture. If they're competing, I think Wentz
ends up winning. Now here's the thing. Wentz gets ends up getting hurt in
December and then Foles comes in and does it again. And at some point with
Wentz, the problem is this. It's not how he plays. It's that he's not available
to play. If you can't keep yourself on the field every week, every year, then
how can you call yourself a franchise quarterback? I mean, you know, I know
Tom Brady had a lost season when he got hit low and torn ACL, but he plays
through every bump and bruise and he doesn't put himself in spots where he
gets banged up. Carson Wentz still plays recklessly and you have to factor
that into the equation of which guy your starter is going to be. Now again, if
they get blown out next week by the Saints, then I guess you stick with
Wentz. But if they beat the Saints or if they even keep it within single
digits, you have to have the conversation about what you're going to do next
year. And there's an argument to be made that you're better off with Foles.
Yeah, I like it. Yeah, especially if you get a lot from Wentz. I mean, maybe
there's some team out there that are going to be a two first round picks
plus for Carson Wentz. Yeah. Can we move off the playoffs for a second and ask
you what's going to happen with Antonio Brown and tell me this, because this is
kind of similar to the Laveon Bell situation where everyone got it wrong
with like the he cannot show up. He can show up. But he has to show up by week
10, all this stuff back and forth. I've seen things saying Laveon Bell can be
traded. He can't be traded all back and forth. Tell me exactly not Antonio Brown.
Sorry. What did I say? Laveon Bell. Laveon Bell. Well, Laveon Bell was the
situation before, but tell me first what they can do and second what they will do.
They can cut him. They can trade him. They can keep him. Those are the three
options or option four would be he wants out. They want to keep him. He acts like
Carol Owens in 2005 and they can play hardball with him and suspend him and
all that. Let's set that aside for another time. For now, they have to figure
out what they want to do. If keep him, cut him or trade him. If they trade him
before June 1, the salary cap charge for 2019 will be over 21 million. If they
trade him after June 1, the salary cap charge is 7 million for this year, 14
million for next year, but they got to pay him 2.5 million on March 17. So you
got to take that into account. That's the deadline. 2.5 million comes due on
March 17. You can cut him with a post June 1 designation and end up having 7
million count this year or 14 million next year. I think the most likely
outcome, the two decisions, two possible decisions are keep him or trade him
before that 2.5 million comes due. And I got word out to about a dozen GMs and
coaches today to try to find out what they think is going to happen and what
they would do. And the thinking is you got to find a way to work this out. He's
too valuable to the team. It's going to be too disruptive financially to move him.
And I think the problem, and I'm sure you guys have seen the reports and talked
about it, it's Antonio Brown and Ben Rothsberger. Rothsberger has got a
problem with Antonio Brown and they got to get both of them in the room and they
got to figure out can we make this work. And because they have to try to make it
work, there's too much invested to not make it work. They paid him 33 million
dollars over the last two years. And maybe if they give Ben a big contract
extension, maybe that'll get him the right frame of mind to deal with Antonio
Brown for the rest of his career. Because they're better off with him, but they
can't have him disappearing when there's a key game coming up. And you got to
worry about whether or not they're teammates that can never come back from
that. I think some guys are going to have a hard time getting over it all. Cameron
Hayward, when he did WDVE interview last week, it sounds like he's willing to
forgive. And if he speaks to the team, then maybe they'd be willing to move on.
But Rothsberger's the one that they have to hire this out with.
But isn't it one of these situations where you give Rothsberger the extension
and then Antonio Brown gets pissed off at Rothsberger?
Well, that's quite, yes. And when Antonio Brown tweeted on Saturday, it's a
system where you have no leverage. Well, dude, you've been paid twice now and you
could have done what Levy on Bell did. You could have let your contract expire and
play the franchise tag game and force your way to the market like he did. And I
think he's resentful of Levy on Bell circumstance, where he played this in a
way where he's going to cash in majorly on the open market, something Antonio
Brown never did because he was never willing to take the financial risk because
he always took whatever the Steelers offered. Got it. Okay. My last question.
What's going on with with Cliff Kingsbury? Are the Patriots really thinking he's
going to be offensive coordinator? Can two guys as hot as Tom Brady and Cliff
Kingsbury coexist in the same town? You remember they did once before. Cliff
Kingsbury was a sixth round pick just like Tom Brady. He was picked number
201 in 2003. He was only there for like a year or so. But Bill Belichick, I'm
told, respects Kingsbury and he's one of the guys that they would consider if
Josh McDaniels actually leaves this year. And Kingsbury is quite possibly going
to quit at USC. There's a small buyout he would have to pay relative to the buyout
that he's getting from Texas Tech and just move on and take his chances and go
interview with the Jets for the head coaching job, with the Cardinals for the
head coaching job. Go be someone's offensive coordinator. There's going to be
such a run on offensive talent when they start hiring coaches this year. There's
going to be plenty of spots for Kingsbury at a minimum as an offensive
coordinator. How did he go from not being good enough to coach offense in the
Big 12 to being an NFL head coach? Well, I think what happened was the NFL teams
have begun to embrace completely the college offenses. So this is the guy that
built Patrick Mahomes. This is the guy that designed that offense and you're
going to have more and more teams with that kind of an offensive approach and
everyone wants to find the next Sean McVeigh, the next Matt Nagy, the next
Doug Peterson. When you look at Nagy and Peterson's career arc, it's not like
they coached for a long time, but what's going to happen is there's going to be
a lot of unqualified guys who get hired and I'm not saying Cliff Kingsbury is
unqualified, but when you're desperate to find offensive coaches. Now, look,
that may swing back the other way with the playoffs being more defensive
struggles. We're getting away from 54-51 and we're getting to 16-15, but I still
think that it's a reality that benefits offensive coaches where there's going to
be such a demand that even if you weren't good enough to coach Texas Tech,
you may be good enough to be the head coach of the New York Jets.
That would zig while others act. Now's the time where you bring in Rob Ryan and
you go, hey, I'm going full defense. I'm going unkempt instead of a guy with a
good haircut and a playbook as thick as the Bible.
Or Rex. You know, it's funny. Rex was reportedly making calls last week
telling guys to get ready and I don't know what they're getting ready for
because he hasn't gotten a call. There's a bunch of former head coaches that
would love to get back in that can't get a phone call and you guys know who
would be at the top of your list. Yeah. All right. My last question.
Seeky question. You don't mention his name anymore? No.
We don't want to jinx it. Oh, OK. I was about to mention it.
Literally, my Seeky question. Put promo code take at $10 off Seeky question.
Will he get a job? No. Why?
You know, I thought he would. I thought he's so connected at the league
office. I thought there would be one owner that would decide to give him another
shot. And who knows, crazier things have happened.
And some of these owners make decisions we don't quite understand, but his name
has not come up at all. If anybody is pursuing him, it is either being done
very secretly or an owner is going to get to a spot where he says, you know what,
I don't like any of these options. Let's go get Jeff Fisher.
That's the only way it's going to happen this year. OK, someone's going to do that.
Someone's going to do that. Mike, thank you as always.
And I appreciate it. And whatever, man, it's just football.
Hey, hey, big cat. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing.
There's other sports going on. Just throw yourself into the other sports.
You know, it'll be. It'll be. The bulls are great. The bulls.
Yeah. Yeah. Who do you in Wisconsin, right?
Northwestern? No. No. Chicago. Not Northwestern.
Yeah. All right. Jesus Christ. Do you follow Hockey?
Are you the Hockey fan? Yes. Yes. But I mean, they stink too.
Whatever. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Football is stupid.
All right. See you, Mike.
Hey, real quick, Mike.
I got you on the phone right now.
This source just came through for me right now.
Can I report this live and you can confirm whether or not this has legs?
I can only imagine. OK.
I'm told that the that the Buccaneers have hired Bruce Arians, his head coach
and Todd Bowles as defense coordinator to be announced.
That would not surprise me. OK.
That would not surprise me at all.
That wouldn't surprise me at all because I was talking to somebody today
that if Aaron gets that gig, Todd Bowles is no brainer to be the coordinator.
OK, boom, I just reported right now.
Like it was just time.
Stamp news, timestamp, 842 p.m.
Eastern news, even if I don't break it.
I want to make sure I understand this properly.
Must credit if it's actually right.
Yeah, no, it's like it's breaking right now.
People won't listen to it till tomorrow.
But when you hear it, you know that it was breaking at the moment.
It must credit father and son duo.
Yeah. How about that? Got it.
And the little sad, the little sad nephew in the corner and a little sad.
Just this hand sound is stopping crying. Yeah, yeah.
Thanks, guys. OK, I love you, dad.
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OK, let's get to some segments. OK.
I'm just realizing right now that, like, you're fine.
No, what happened when it happens, what happens in this world?
That we live in the content world.
It happens. The loss happens.
It's an immediate punch to the stomach.
It's an immediate like hour of just fuck, fuck, fuck.
I hate everything.
And then we have to get in here and I got to kind of pick it up a little.
I'm just thinking about how I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning and just
it's going to be brutal because football stinks.
If football is stupid, they're going to be stupid.
There are going to be many, many times that you have to relive this loss,
which is tough. I want you to know that I'm here for you.
Would you rather have the Eagles like go to the Super Bowl, which is lose next week?
Does that make it better?
This is the worst conversation.
And it always happens like right after your team gets beaten
in the most heartbreaking fashion.
It's like, would you rather that the person that just killed your parents
go on to become the Joker or would you rather that they get run over
by a car when they're running out of the alley?
I would, in this case, it's an easy answer for me.
I would rather the Eagles win another Super Bowl.
So we can all just be like, Hey, what, what was that with Nick Foles?
Like that was crazy.
And we just become like, oh, yeah, that's almost, that's almost a badge of honor.
Like you got beat by Nick Foles, who did the impossible and lost
air sorry, and won two straight Super Bowls on insane runs.
Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
It's like Nick left his little, he left a little mark on your tramp stamp.
Right. On his way out the door.
An imprint. Yeah. Yeah.
But you had to get a couple stitches. You're walking a little funny for a while.
You had to get an apesiatomy. Yeah.
So go look that one up.
Just stupid. It's just stupid.
Like it's caring about sports or stupid. It's dumb.
But we read that book, but we love it.
All right, let's talk about some more sports. Sports.
All right, Nick Saban. Yeah, give me the King's Day Kings.
Well, King's Day Kings, Nick Saban.
I still have to put water on my myself.
He was asked about shit.
Fuck you, Hank.
We good? Yeah.
OK.
Hey, the national championships tonight.
You're just such a giggler.
We get to watch sports and we get to gamble on sports.
Remember when you made me just doggy
sorrows for the Celtics losing to like the Cavaliers?
Do you know March?
You know how you guys, I do.
That was a bad, that was a bad loss, though.
Do you know how you can like make a dog not bark like there's a surgery?
It's fucked up. Like no one should ever do it.
There is. I wish I could do that surgery on Hank
so he could never laugh again. Is it called just training them?
No, you could. There's actually it's fucked up.
But I wish I could do that for Hank.
We should get a dog trainer. So he can't giggle.
Yeah.
I just it's very confusing to me
because this is like a sports comedy podcast.
You guys like try and be funny.
So sometimes when you go, oh, oh, oh, we try to be funny.
Yeah, this is classic.
And like, I'm sorry that you guys are so funny that I laugh at you.
Yeah, right. When you try to be funny, you sometimes are funny.
Big Cat, when you joke about how heartbroken you are
about the Bears losing, that's funny.
That's what you're trying to do, right?
Trying really hard at the rest of your jokes stink.
But the one where you're not joking is trying to be funny.
This whole year's long setup of Big Cat being a Bears fan.
Just for this comedy.
Yeah. Oh, it's so funny.
It was perfect. Big Cat, how hilarious.
How hilarious. Yeah. The Bears, they were like,
hey, let's have a good year this year
and then lose in a heartbreak fashion
so that Hank can laugh at this.
Trying to be funny.
Classic comedy.
OK. College football.
You. I seriously don't let him.
Catch or something out of him.
No, he's trying to beat you.
You already broke my computer.
He's trying to beat you.
You deserve that.
Don't let him win.
All right. PFT.
Don't let Hank win.
King's Day, Kings, Nick Saban, College football.
You face no chin.
Have a motherfucker next week.
He's going to look so bad.
If you have to shave your face,
like you might as well just quit.
No, I mean, I've had no beard for like 23 years up to this.
And I'm not worried at all.
I would much rather have to shave my beard
and wear a suit during jumpsuit
January, the most comfortable month of the year.
I'm really, you know, I can't wait to see
when you snake out of this bet, you're going to look like
I'm not going to.
I'm not going to know where you are.
By the way, if anybody out there makes jumpsuits
that look like actual suits, absolutely not.
Yeah.
I would love to entertain your product.
Okay. Kings Day, Kings, Nick Saban.
You ready for this?
Yeah. College football.
Yes.
It's tonight.
Yes.
College football lives here.
It lives here.
Thunder.
Clemson.
Lightning.
And the thunder.
The Crimson Tide.
And Dabbo Swinney and his Clemson Tigers.
Can they cage this tiger for the fourth time?
They're running down that hill and touching that rock.
Yeah.
That's what they do, I guess.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah, they do.
What is that rock?
Is that a geode?
I hope it's a geode.
OK, anyways, my Kings Day Kings is Nick Saban
because they asked him, hey Nick, if you win this national
title, you will tie Bear Bryant at Alabama
with six titles apiece.
Have you thought about that?
And his answer was, I don't think about that at all.
I believe him.
I totally believe him.
I believe him.
He does not think about what he has done in the past.
I think he's concerned.
He probably sees future head coaches
and he's concerned about them.
Right.
And he's like, I don't want this person
to beat my eventual record.
No, I don't even think he does.
I don't even think he thinks legacy or any of those things.
It's like, hey, Nick Saban, do you
think about how the fact you could tie Bear Bryant?
Or do you think about the fact that there
is a five star defensive lineman that's considering LSU
in Alabama?
He's just mad that it takes away from recruiting time.
Right, right.
That is Nick Saban.
Did you also see the quote?
Someone asked him, who the fuck this person was?
I have no idea.
They asked him, have you had a chance to watch Bird Box?
Oh, OK.
And he said, no, I have not.
And Nick Saban, like Nick Saban's like Bird Box, the fear,
I don't want to give away the movie, but the fear would be
stopping coaching football and recruiting for a second
just to watch a movie.
Him watching Bird Box is his bird box.
Right, exactly.
If he looks directly at Bird Box,
yes, he'll want to kill himself.
Right, exactly.
He will be like, I'm going to jump in front of the nearest
garbage truck.
Yes.
Again, not to spoil it.
Not to spoil it.
That's at the beginning of the movie.
Yes.
So it's not that much.
So it's the first 15 minutes.
So yeah, we spoiled that.
Somebody probably tricked him into watching a couple seconds
of the recruiting scenes in Blindside.
And to him, that was also his bird box.
Yes.
You tricked me.
This is an actual recruiting.
Yeah, this is fucked up.
Yeah.
So it's just always funny whenever they ask, whenever
someone's like, hey, Nick, do you ever do anything?
Yeah, I watch the Weather Channel, eat my little debbies,
and recruit and win national championships.
Is that enough for you?
Because that's all I do.
Yeah, anything else take that question to Mr. Terry.
Yeah, exactly.
Because she knows it's not me.
She'll figure it out.
So along the same lines of tonight's national championship
game, we were talking about the PED tests from Clemson
last week and how crazy it was that we totally
believed Dexter Lawrence.
Yeah.
Why doesn't Dabbo Swinney just have his entire roster test
positive for whatever that substance was?
Because then they would probably have to forfeit?
No, if everybody's positive for it.
They'd have to forfeit.
No, they just be like, they'd assume
there's something wrong with the test.
And then they forfeit.
No, it's like in stand and deliver.
Yeah.
When every student did really well, actually, yeah,
they just accused him of cheating.
I'm actually proving the exact opposite of my point right now.
Yeah.
I just thought I had a really good idea for how they could get
him out of it.
If everybody else pissed off.
Everyone cheats.
No one's cheating.
If everyone else pissed hot, then DNCAA
would be like there must be an issue with the test.
But then you forget that the NCAA is run by the SEC.
So they just be like, all right, you forfeit.
That's true.
Cool.
Let's have Alabama play Georgia.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll win.
We'll see who the real best team is.
Yeah, right, exactly.
All right, next up we have Mike Greenberg's dumb rules
because he, wait, what are we going to do?
We're going to fix onside kicks.
Yeah, onside kicks, they used to be fun.
They did.
Well, they changed the rules and made it not fun.
Yeah, so you can't line up for further than five yards
behind the ball when you're doing an onside kick
or any other kickoff for that matter.
Oh, wait, by the way, we got to give a prediction.
National championship.
OK.
Go.
30.
35 to 31.
Who?
That's it.
OK.
That's my prediction.
35, 31.
I'm going to say 30.
I'm going to say 40.
No, no, no, I'll let you guys know on Wednesday's show
which team was which.
I'm going to say 38, 28.
Oh, OK.
Yeah.
41, 14.
OK, so obviously Alabama's 41.
No, you don't know that.
That's pretty obvious.
No, you don't know that.
Yeah, Hank, it's not a yes.
No, you don't know that.
It's not a yes.
You'll find out.
OK.
We were a real which team was which on Wednesday.
Onside kicks.
So they used to be fun and now they're not funny more
because I think the stat went from like 20%
were recovered by the kicking team last year
to now 8% are fewer.
Yeah.
That are recovered by the kicking team now.
They changed the rules.
So we should change them back or we should do something
different.
Yes.
And what the Seahawks did, I think they had the right idea.
I think that drop kicks are actually the way to go
because you can boot the shit out of those like really high
into the air.
Yeah.
But Dixon just hit it.
I think he misunderstood because he speaks Chilean
and Pete Carroll speaks YouTube conspiracy theory.
Paul Joseph Watson language.
And so he just kicked his like 40 yards downfield.
But I really think that a drop kick hit like almost directly
up in the air is the best way to do it.
I would agree with that.
I would love to see onside kicks.
Now, this doesn't really go for the safety.
I'd like to see it just be one versus the whole team.
OK.
So you have to kick it to one side.
And there's only one guy.
That's it's just like that's impossible for that one guy.
Why?
Because there's like five or six other guys coming at you.
Yeah, I know.
That's the fun part.
I know that is fun.
Yeah, it's very fun.
And it would always work.
But you can only do them like you can only maybe maybe we limit
to it one a game.
OK.
So you can only use one a game and you basically call it.
Maybe you give them two guys and you call them out
and they have to kick it on one side of the field.
So there's a zone where they have to almost land the ball.
Yeah.
And it's just one or two guys versus the rest of the team.
And it's just chaos.
I like the idea of having to declare that you're
doing an onside kick because the rule change won't work
if you're doing it like surprise onside kick.
Right.
So you have to declare, OK.
This is my onside kick is coming.
Yep.
And you can't.
Yeah, like the kicking team can't run it back.
So it's dead ball right away.
And it's like seven versus two on that side.
What about if there are two balls?
I like that.
So like exact same rules as they are now.
And if you can kick two balls at the same time and both,
if you recover one of them, then your team,
then the kicking team gets the ball.
No, here's what I like a little amendment to that rule.
If you recover its first team to get both balls.
So if you recover one, you've got to kick again.
OK.
If each side covers one, kick again.
OK.
And it's just you keep doing it until one side gets both balls.
I like that, too.
So it's tough to get, but it also would be fun.
Yeah, what if you just.
Or maybe three balls, and it's whoever has two out of three.
That works.
OK.
I like that.
Yeah, but they're labeled ball one, three, and four.
Oh, shit.
And so then everyone spins the entire quarter looking for ball
two.
Oh my god.
Where is it?
Where is it?
Or how about this?
If you kick it from the tee and it hits off at least one
upright, maybe two uprights.
If you can bounce it off two uprights,
then your team gets the ball.
I like that.
Or you have a specialist right now on your squad.
Fuck you.
Why do you do that?
What if they have to?
Why?
They have to kick or can kick at full speed of the other team.
And the person that touched it has to catch it
or they get out of the way.
And it goes out of bounds.
That's exactly what it's like.
That's what it is right now.
No, but they kick it as hard as they can.
But a lot of people do that right now.
You know what?
At someone?
Yeah.
And you see that.
And they have to catch it.
I kind of like this idea.
And if they drop it, then that person can't recover it.
And it's free for all.
How about you take the fattest player from the other team.
You make them stand 15 yards away and do butts up.
And so he has to turn away.
And you can hit him in his ass.
I like that.
Like just hit the guy.
What about if you made the kicking nets,
like an oversized kicking net, and you kick the ball into the net,
and then everyone runs.
Everyone starts on a line of scrimmage, both teams.
You kick the ball in the net and it's whoever can recover it.
So you get like people getting tangled in the nets, injuries,
weird shit happening.
That'd be fun.
I like that.
Don't get caught in the net.
Yeah, don't get caught in the net.
You got to play it off the net.
Standard bullet.
You get like one guy who's like, oh, he's unbelievable off the net.
Yeah, you get net specialists.
Yeah, right, right.
I love that.
OK, I think we solved it.
OK, last up.
Soggy Sorrows fucking sucks.
But here's how we're going to do it.
PFC and I are going to get up right now.
We're going to go to the bathroom, dump water on me.
Bubba is going to be the only one in the studio on the mic.
Bubba, what are you going to talk about?
Let's talk about what you're going to talk about real quick
so we can burn out what you're going to talk about.
Probably how you just been in a terrible mood.
Fuck that.
Why would you say that?
What else would I talk about right now?
We've already we've already covered that ground.
Yeah, why don't you tell every tell them a story?
No, tell them what like the hot new trends of 2019 are going to be.
Yeah, what are you flexing on?
What are you dripping with?
Either that or about how you lied about getting hit by a car.
That too.
Tell the hit by the car story.
OK.
OK, yeah, that'll be good.
All right.
Bubba's going to tell the hit by the car story.
I'm going to get water poured on me.
All right, so feel pretty bad for Big Cat right now.
So I got hit by a car in April.
I left work, went for a jog, something I don't do very often.
Probably shouldn't.
And ran around a car that was double parked.
And when I did, didn't see another car coming, hit me.
I got flipped over it.
Basically shattered my entire ankle, broke my tibium fibula.
And nobody here believes me about it.
Specifically, all business Pete.
He's way too woke.
He's kind of a dickhead about it.
And Big Cat is soaked.
The water does not look great on the velour.
Yeah.
OK, Bubba just told what I'm sure
was the best story that you've ever heard.
I'm soaking wet.
The velour really wet.
You're so wet.
You're so wet.
You remind me of.
All right, so here goes Saga-Sarrows.
Big bowl of alvita.
I'm soaked, and the bear season's over.
The problem is, how would you, like,
would they give videos of you, at least, to do look good?
Why don't you shut up, Hank, let me talk.
The problem is, when you watch a sports team,
when you like sports, every year you get a little bit older.
And things just kind of, you know, progress in your life.
You're like, can I keep doing this?
And then you think about, like, hey,
Khalil Mack's going to get a little bit older.
The whole team's not going to be the same.
There was the club dub thing.
Like, you can't bring the club dub thing back.
You can't do club dub again, you know?
You can't do club L after this loss.
And everyone knows that you should have.
You need, you need the L train.
You need something.
Shut that shit down.
Use back of the week.
You need something to galvanize the team,
to sell t-shirts, that whole thing.
Tony Cuomo.
And now we're fucked.
This fucking sucks, man.
I'm sorry.
Hey, big cat, listen, as a Capitals fan,
I just want to say that I've been there before
and it gets better.
Hey, you know what, PFT?
It gets better.
The Capitals, listen, I'm already onto Monday.
At least we have to wear a three-piece suit for us.
I'm already onto Monday.
Yeah, me neither, too.
You know what, my good friend, Mike Dickel, once said,
the past is for cowards and losers.
So, yes, it's a little ironic that someone like that
said that and the 85 Bears are like the only team,
the Bears history that we talk about.
No, but if you, you know what I'm saying.
If you win, then the past is cool.
Yeah.
But if you lose, then the past sucks.
Fucking Cody Parky, man.
Why?
Why?
It got blocked.
It got blocked.
At least you didn't see it coming.
I fucking hate you.
Love you guys.
I'm looking away while I'm at work.
I was to say I didn't wait.
Today is another day to find you, to shine away.
So I'll be coming for your love of dreams.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone, but I don't want to.
Needless to say, I'm on the same page,
but I'm being stolen away.
Turn around and find peace, OK?
Say it out to me.
It's the better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone, but I don't want to.
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