Pardon My Take - Minnesota Timberwolves Julius Randle, MNF, Cowboys In Disarray and Bears Start Firing, College Football Talk + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

The Dolphins look the be prime spoilers and Sean McVay got confused on field goal strategy at the end of the game (00:00:00-00:06:41). Week 10 clean up and the Bears start their firings (00:06:41-00:2...4:39. We talk about the big Rivalry game coming up Thursday (00:24:39-00:38:31) and then talk College Football including the loser Brian Kelly and the weirdest undefeated teams remaining (00:38:31-00:56:09). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:56:09-01:12:50). We then welcome on Julius Randle in studio to talk about his trade to Minnesota, his career in the NBA, playing with Kobe early in his career, Kentucky, Cal and tons more (01:12:50-01:57:24). We finish with guys on chicks (01:57:24-02:09:38).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:02:56 To it looks good and I don't know what the fuck to make of the Rams other than the fact that what the hell is going on with Sean McVeigh Why are you kicking field goals on third down there There are the Dolphins are technically not out of it There's they're the perfect spoiler. They might spoil a bunch of games But if you look at the seventh seed in the in the AFC right now Yeah We don't know and this was a perfect weekend for it You had all their competition for that for that final seed ended up losing
Starting point is 00:03:22 Yep, the Dolphins win to comes back comes back, proves to us he can still make a tackle. Yeah. Credit to Tua, sticking his head in there. That seemed like it was a bad idea, but yeah. McVeigh kicking a field goal on third down. I don't know if that was the right decision or not. They probably weren't going to win the game. No, that was the wrong decision. And here's why. If you are going to play the game of we should kick a field goal before we kick, before we try to get a touchdown Do it with like a minute and a half left at the minute you get into field We're a show. Yeah, but do it when you get into field goal range if you're gonna go that route Otherwise you have third. Why would you give away a down that you could like the harder thing to do is score a touchdown Why are you giving away down there?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Just go for it on third down and then kick the field goal It felt like he got caught like somewhere in the middle where he just didn't really make up his mind. Like you have to be decisive that the mid, if you're like, Hey, we got to get a field goal first, do it with a minute and a half left. I think so. What we're saying is he made the right decision, but just way too late, way too late. And then wait. And then early to the point where it didn't be, it ended up not being the right decision because he waited so long to make the right decision and then he somehow
Starting point is 00:04:28 waited way too long and then also at the same time still did it early. I mean shout out to procrastinators. I think it's a very relatable mistake to make. I think I feel like didn't feel like he just was like I kind of didn't really have a plan here. Fuck it. Let's kick the field goal now. He was like oh shit., I should have done this while I'll do it right now, but someone should have said hey No, actually don't do it right now. Wait at least one more down You know the old saying where there's never a good way to make the wrong decision Yeah, this is like the opposite of that there. There is a bad way to make the right decision Yes, and that's what McVeigh ended up doing. Yeah, I'm concerned about McVeigh's beard
Starting point is 00:05:04 So, you know how he talked to us about the beard procedure that he had he got like PRP injected into his cheeks yeah it scooped down way low it's it's it's looking pretty patchy on the sides I'm concerned about his hair yeah well the hair is another thing I do needs to he needs to go with one tondon and Nicky smokes and white socks Dave to turkey that's like a midlife crisis in the bottle right there I think that NFL coaches and coaches in general have done no favors by camera angles when it comes to thinning hairlines. Yeah, I'd agree with that.
Starting point is 00:05:33 It's a bad spot to be in. But yeah, the Dolphins, they're not dead. The Dolphins are not dead. They're probably not going to make the playoffs, but you still have some games that mean a little bit to you before you officially start playing spoiler and just being like, okay, I'm going to go into every weekend trying to be an asshole. Well, they have the Raiders and Patriots next So if they can win those two games, they're now sitting there five and six Going into Lambeau. They have to go six Thanksgiving weekend
Starting point is 00:05:55 So yeah, and I thought Tua played great Like I know that his numbers weren't like super flashy But even in the second half when they needed to get first downs when they needed to extend drives to keep the ball away from The Rams they were able to do it and I there's something about the Dolphins I think it's a night game and I think it's indoors they just look so fast and they're in their uniforms pop and Yeah, I I feel like they got another weapon to spoiler Malik, Washington Yeah, so the the guy that ran in that first touchdown he looked so fast. So it's like how do they keep finding these guys? I went up and looked up his combine stats because I was like,
Starting point is 00:06:28 how did the dolphins, how did the league allow the dolphins to get another guy that appears to run like a four, three, I think he ran like a four or five, nine or four or five at the combine. Now I'm so deep in the conspiracy where I'm thinking that like, they talk to guys who are fast and they say, Hey, just run like a little bit slower and Then I'll draft. Yeah, and then we'll take you in an offense that works and nobody else will know that you're secretly very fast They build the whole plane out of speed. Yeah, and it works So yeah looking at the Dolphins. I think they are just the prime spoiler team I think they have a game against the Texans and the 49ers later in the season
Starting point is 00:07:03 They're gonna win one of those two It's not gonna mean anything for him But it will mean a lot for the team that loses mm-hmm so that's not listen being spoiler At this point if you can't if you can't get to the playoffs be a spoiler yeah, but they're not there yet They still have that hope to clay still they still do if they can win the next two games They still have a little hope Okay, others clean up stuff Am I wrong to think that Micah Parsons didn't say anything wrong?
Starting point is 00:07:30 No, the fact that he's on Cowboys makes you think like this has to be a story anytime he says something. Yeah. So so here's what he said after the game. After another loss. He was asked about Mike McCarthy's hot seat. And he said, that's above my pay grade, whether Mike is coaching again next year. Coaching, Mike can leave and go wherever he wants. Guys I kind of feel bad for are veteran right guard, Zach Martin, guys who might be on their last year or on their way out because that's who I want to hold the trophy for. And essentially being like, I don't give a fuck about Mike McCarthy I guess people are saying he went on to say you want to win games do great things with those type of legends who put in more time and work than Mike McCarthy ever
Starting point is 00:08:14 did I guess that would be maybe the shot those are the kind of guys that I have so much sympathy and hurt for I have no problem with it. It was honest. Mike McCarthy can coach seemingly for the rest of his life. NFL player has a limited time to be on an NFL roster. And he's like, yeah, the guys next to me who might be on there last year, those are the guys I feel for knowing that Mike McCarthy is going to be fine no matter what. I guess like maybe saying they work harder than Mike McCarthy is going to be fine no matter what. I guess like maybe saying you know they work harder than Mike McCarthy ever works. I could see understanding that would be like maybe don't say that but this is one of those this falls under the
Starting point is 00:08:52 category of you want your athletes and coaches to give honest answers and when they give honest answers we should be like that was an honest answer not holy shit how could he say that. I think it's a fair answer to give but it's also knowing that you're a star player on the Dallas Cowboys know that any piece of media you put out there is going to take an out of context. Correct. And then you're going to have to answer, actually it's a great move for his podcast to be open and honest because not only do you get the initial news bump when you say something,
Starting point is 00:09:20 but then you also get the clarification podcast. Yes. Where you go back on and address the controversy. You might ask yourself, is it wise for a star player to have a podcast and say at times inflammatory things, or is that mostly the position that should be withheld for people that are media trained, like the owner of the team? Yes. When he does his weekly radio head and he does the exact same thing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:40 They're just, they're, they're gorging the media. Like they're, they're just filling up the news cycle with things to talk about with Dallas Cowboys And somehow Mike a Parsons quote about Mike McCarthy Mike McCarthy's response quote about us handling it like men We had a conversation like men men, which is a great thing to say like yeah, how did you address this? Well, I'm a man. I'm a man. So we had a man-to-man I just assumed when Mike Parsons says we had a conversation like men, it was just Mike McCarthy on the shitter and Michael Parsons maybe sitting next to him in the stall next to him being like, hey, should we talk about this real quick?
Starting point is 00:10:12 They're playing battleship with each other, yeah. But you're right, you're exactly right that this is like a cats in a cradle situation. Michael Parsons learned it from Jerry Jones. You can't say Michael Parsons, how are you saying this? Well, we say everything here. Yeah. You can't, you can't discipline Michael Parsons for doing the exact same thing that your owner does on a weekly basis as he's fighting. He's fighting now like a two front battle, one against the PR machine around Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones is also fighting a battle against the sun and he's currently
Starting point is 00:10:42 losing that battle to the sun. Although they have adapted. They've adapted a little bit. Mike McCarthy did that press conference yesterday. And the sun was beaming straight into his eyes. Yeah, the podium was. Yep. So they set up a little sunblocker for Mike McCarthy. I mean, what do you got? What are you going to do? You put up a sunblocker. You wanted to bulldoze the entire stadium next? Yeah, the facility. You can't do that. I did like that move by, uh, by Jerry Jones being like, Hey, here, we'll answer the critics on the sun. Yeah, we got you. Bang. We figured out a solution to it. But I had no, I really have no problem with my compartment saying it because there's a lot
Starting point is 00:11:17 of truth in it that you, I think an NFL player, as much as you don't maybe want to say that quiet part out loud, they are always going to care more about the guys next to them in the locker room than they are about a coach. He also complimented his coach. Yeah. It's not like he said, you know, at this point I can't control what the coaches do. They make some decisions that I don't like, but I'm going to go out there and play for
Starting point is 00:11:40 the guy next to me. It's not like he threw Mike McCarthy under, guess a very, very large bus. It's just the fact that he did not praise Mike McCarthy enough as he talked about his teammates. Or say the cliche thing which the reporter was fishing for is Mike Parsons being like, no, we're still fighting for our guy, Mike McCarthy. Yeah. Which would have been not true. They're fighting to win games, but this is also the point in the NFL season where Guys do start making business decisions where it's like I listen. I'm we're not gonna go to the playoffs. We're not a good team
Starting point is 00:12:12 I gotta get my stats. I gotta put on tape I gotta play for my next contract and again Mike McCarthy will be fine because if he doesn't get another head coaching job He'll get a consulting job He'll get paid three3 million to to sit and find the next Jets or the Bears next head coach. Like that's what he's gonna be fine. And then he'll say it should be me. Yeah right. So he's set up for life. I don't have a problem at all with what Mike Parson said but what I did have a problem with is that he referred to his defensive coordinator as Zimmerman.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So I don't think he knows the name of his defensive coordinator as Zimmerman. So I don't think he knows the name of his defensive coordinator. He might not. I think he thinks his name is Mike Zimmerman. Well he was hurt for a while, Michael Parsons. I know. So that might be. You would think that he would at least get his defensive coordinator's name correct. It was close enough. I guess. Maybe they just call each other man. Yeah he's the Zimmerman. Yeah he's the Zimmerman. Yeah okay other news the Bears fired Shane Waldron Which was just a band-aid on a gaping wide hole that's gonna keep bleeding out forever
Starting point is 00:13:13 Yeah, so Shane Waldron Luke. Get see both get the axe early you had both eat both Eberfluss's hires now. Here's what's crazy is that is that when you look at Shane Waldron being fired and how that all shook out yesterday, Adam Schefter said that the, the bears are going to make a decision. They're going to move on. They're going to make some changes on offense. It could be their coordinator and it could be their quarterback. Why did Adam Schefter, why did the bears even throw that out there? In what world is benching Caleb Williams right now
Starting point is 00:13:45 a solution to anything? I actually think there's, I don't want him to be benched, but there actually is a world where it solves a little something in the fact that you now have, we're, for all the jokes we made about the Panthers and Fleece and the Panthers, we are the Panthers from last year in that you had Frank Wright, who was like a lame duck coach
Starting point is 00:14:05 And he was calling plays and then he gave Thomas Brown play calling duty for three weeks And then he took the play calling duty back now the Bears lame duck head coach rookie quarterback Give the play calling to Thomas Brown who's now the Bears offensive coordinator probably gonna take it back after he sucks, so I'm just worried that I mean, it probably doesn't matter in the end of the day. But yeah, I think you could probably hurt Caleb Williams even more by having him run an offense that doesn't work whatsoever. I want him to play but I'm it's gotten so bad that I actually could be convinced that like, yeah, maybe we should just sit him out and just start
Starting point is 00:14:43 next year fresh and be like new team new everything everything, new, you know, like you never even played an NFL game. Yes. Thank you. Have a question. Yes. I saw that the Waddle and Sylvia account posted that veteran players had went to the coach and asked for Beijing.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Yeah. Sylvie said there were people asking that. Yeah. DJ Moore probably. Listen, that's bad. The whole thing is bad. The players should want Caleb the whole it's correct That like if the system's bad like maybe it's bad for his progress, but like the players in the locker room Want to win you would think they you know
Starting point is 00:15:16 The fact I don't want Caleb as their QB is that Caleb is broken right now those probably just DJ more Yeah, and Eber fluss has broken him to a point. I mean, you can see it when he plays. They stressed it all summer, like, hey, we want to take the aggressiveness out of him. His brain is locked up every time he drops back. I think the players want, if a player did go to the coaching staff and say, we want to have Bajan play instead of Caleb Williams, do you think it's because that's the fix that they learned last year that worked in the short term when they put Bajan in and the offense looked a little bit better? So the solution that they have in their minds is let's get Bajan in or is this a completely
Starting point is 00:15:52 different problem that the Bears have this year compared to what they had last year? They are the same. It's the same problem every year for the Bears. They are actually running essentially the worst anniversary year of all time. It's the 10 year anniversary of the 2014 team who that was Mark Trestman's last year. And down to like a T it was actually they, when the season started to spiral, it was losing the Dolphins, Brandon Marshall and Robbie Gold getting in a fight in the locker room. Always great when your kid gets in a fight. Losing to the Patri great when your kid gets in a fight.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Losing to the Patriots, that was the famous Lamar Houston towards ACL after sacking Jimmy Garoppolo when we were down 40 points. And then, so we lost the Patriots. Then the next week was the game that Aaron Rodgers threw like six touchdowns in the first half. So it went Patriots, Packers and everything. And then Jay Cutler got benched for Jimmy Claussen because Mark Tressman was trying to save his job so this is it's just history repeating itself I do think they probably at some point will probably be like yeah we'll
Starting point is 00:16:51 just put in Tyson Bajie. That actually sounds worse. What? That what you just described is a much worse situation than now. No it's the same. Jimmy Claussen? It's the same Hank. It's the same. I kind of agree with Hank. We had a guy terrors ACL Celebrating a sack down 40 points. He sacked the backup quarterback It's the same there. It's just a clusterfuck and just firing guy and then you know chromer got fired like the whole thing The Bears are a joke of an organization. I've been over this a million times I think this is kind of the last time I'm ever gonna believe I don't I don't think don't think that it's the same because Caleb is still, he's got the talent to be, what was the, what was the knock on Caleb when he came out of college? He holds on to the finger,
Starting point is 00:17:31 fingernails and crying. Yeah. Uh, he, he holds onto the ball too long, but he, he now holds on the ball because they told him, don't throw picks. But it's, I think it's a different holding onto the ball too long problem than what they had last year. That's why I think that this going to Bajan doesn't fix anything because last year the holding onto the ball too long problem was because Justin Fields just couldn't get the ball out on time because he couldn't process it. With Caleb I think the problem is more that he just believes that he's gonna be able to make a play and he holds on to it and tries to run around ends up getting sacked runs out of bounds, whatever. I think it's a different reason for holding onto the ball too.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Well, no, it's everything. Caleb is tentative and not seeing anything well, playing bad, the offensive line, playing bad, and the schemes don't work. I watched a whole, I watched some tape, I watched the tape. Essentially, Keenan Allen is playing DJ Moore's position from last year. DJ Moore had a great year last year.
Starting point is 00:18:30 We were getting him in motion and letting him beat guys off the line of scrimmage. Keenan Allen's not as fast, Keenan Allen is old. He's not as fast as DJ Moore. Why is Keenan Allen running DJ Moore's plays? And DJ Moore is just being put out wide and just being like, okay, just get jammed at the line of scrimmage. like don't it the whole thing is a mess
Starting point is 00:18:47 It will never get fixed We hired a fucking the guy who's running the whole operation is Kevin Warren who remember tried to cancel football He doesn't fucking like football and it's all it's never gonna change So I I think I I think I might have reached the point where it's I'll never believe again But if they go up seven nothing on the Packers, they're back. No. I think I'll never believe again. I would bet $1,000. I'll put $1,000 into the part of my take. What were we calling that? The tip jar? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:19 That when the Packers, if they go down to the Bears, Big Cat will be like the Bears are back. I think I'm never going to believe again. I I mean we did it with Mitch we did it with Justin We did it with Caleb. I think I'm I think it's it's rotten to the core It has nothing to do with who they they're gonna hire the fourth best offensive coordinator to be the new head coach and We're gonna try to be sold on that and I'm not gonna fall for it anymore Do you think I there's any chance that that is true? No, no. Yeah. Unfortunately, probably DC the one guy I saw on on Friday night he was wearing a Drake May bears jersey. That's tough kind of wild. The but Drake may
Starting point is 00:19:58 would suck on the bears. Yeah, I think anybody Daniels suck on the bears. This is the Patrick Mahomes really good is the Patrick my homes You know like we've passed on Patrick or we didn't pick Patrick my homes Patrick my homes would suck on the Bears because the Bears are A joke of an organization. That's just how it works There's not nothing's gonna change They don't care about winning and yeah Shane Waldron like that doesn't solve anything There's also the first time they've ever fired an offensive coordinator mid-season. That's good. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Awesome. Progress. It is very funny that Luke Getzee and Shane Waldron are the only two offensive coordinators fired this year and they both were hand selected by Matt Eberfluss. Yep. And Luke Getzee was fired obviously by the Raiders like week six. So knows how to pick them. Should have fired Matt when you had the chance last year.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Should have fired Matt when we had the chance. Didn. Should have fired Matt when we had the chance. Didn't do it. Didn't do it, cause we're fucking a joke. He was like, come on, I'll get hot. Get, get funked up. Alright, any other NFL things? Me, Me, how are you doing? Meh.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Okay. You're in hell with me? Yeah, I'm just looking at coaches. Okay, what do you got? What'd you find? Uh, Deon Sanders. Okay. Culture changer. Unfortunately, Deon's looking at coaches. Okay. What do you got? What'd you find Deon Sanders? Okay culture changer Unfortunately Deon's going to the Cowboys. Unfortunately Deon might be going to the
Starting point is 00:21:10 LSU Tigers There was a flight tracker today that a flight from Boulder went to stopped in Dallas where Deon has a house then went to Baton Rouge and then stopped in Houston and Then went back to Boulder where Dion also has a house. That's very interesting. I love flight tracking. I love it. I love it. I've said a million times if the SEC message boards had been in charge of NORAD on 9-11 we shut that shit down. They are all over the private jets and if they are saying it then that I have no choice to believe it but I do
Starting point is 00:21:40 think that Dion to the Cowboys would just be a lot of fun Deon and sure I think he's just gonna go wherever she door goes yeah which why not that would make for an interesting dynamic in the NFL if if your coach's son is also your quarterback I hope I hope I hope LeBron LeBron comes out he's like this is not right yeah coach should not be coaching his son so you're looking at coaches what Deion Sanders? What else Deion Sanders Mike variable somebody threw out the idea John Gertin? Mm-hmm. Yeah, Mike variable by the way He's the winner of this whole thing because he's gonna get whatever he wants
Starting point is 00:22:17 Whatever he wants. Yeah, there's a lot of teams out there that need men. There's a man problem in the NFL Yeah, there's a big-time problem. Society, that's right. By the way, did you see, so here's how bad, it might go down as one of the worst head coaching carousels of all time. 2022, here I'm going to give you all the coaches. So these are the good ones, Mike McDaniel, KevinConnell good coaches good hires here were the other this is 2022 coaching vacancies Brian Dable got hired by the Giants he's probably gonna get fired Doug Peterson already fired Todd Bowles that was kind of coach in place Josh McDaniels already fired Matt Eberfluss gonna get fired Dennis Allen
Starting point is 00:23:04 already got fired Lovey Allen already got fired. Lovey Smith already got fired. Nathaniel Hackett already got fired. 10 head coaching vacancies and half of them have already been fired. Yeah, I do like the idea though. Like I think Josh McDaniels is a shitty head coach and I don't know that at some point another team might take a chance on him, but I like the idea of him getting back with Belichick Yeah, that would work Belichick can keep him in line a little bit. That would work that would absolutely I feel like they do good bears. They do good cop bad cop But somehow Bill Belichick is the good cop in that relationship
Starting point is 00:23:36 That's how that's how shitty of a police officer Josh McDaniel says you don't understand the Bears will never hire Someone who's an alpha or a football guy? They won't because they just want to have Kevin Warren an empty suit be the guy who's in charge somehow this is never gonna happen they're never gonna hire a guy who's like this is it's my way or the highway I'm running this I'm bigger than the organization it just won't happen because that would be a good move and they don't it's a fork in the road. And if it's good move, they always go the other way memes. What do you think about? Rex Ryan
Starting point is 00:24:11 Hmm. Bring him back glory days. I can make a sick sick hype video Sometimes you got to go back to move forward would love Rex. Yeah. Yeah, you would I mean at this point It does feel like that's the next move for the Jets right is glory days Yep And that fits into the historical higher x Ryan after you get rid of the Green Bay quarterback to FC. Yeah, the championships Why it's a tattoo of the next quarterback. Yep. Mm-hmm feet foot fetish comes back. Mm-hmm, and then you're back Then you're back who else would be a good glory days of Eric man Genie? Nope the man genius. No, ooh, Bill Belichick Glory days. He would never know he hates him so much. I just want someone who Pete Carroll top bulls Pete Carroll now Bill Parcells
Starting point is 00:24:56 Bill Parcells, is he still alive? Oh, yeah. Yes. He's very much a lot of Pete Carroll Yeah, he taught member Darren Rizzi called Dan Campbell and Bill Parcells. Yeah, Parcells is still very much live He just spends all day at the track. I bet yeah and taking phone calls from coaches. Yeah as a mentor Alright last thing about NFL before we do college football. How are you guys? We're we're two days away from a PMT all-time PMT rivalry match for the NFC East. How are both sides feeling? It's hate week. How are both sides feeling? I feel good. I feel love. You feel love? Yep. Whoa. What does that mean? I don't know. You can choose hate. I'll choose love. Okay. PFT, do you think you're going to win this game? I actually do. Okay. I think, I think that the commander is going to win this
Starting point is 00:25:38 game. I think I also went back and rewatched the film. I watched every play that That was...continue. You don't know what I'm gonna say. You don't know what I'm gonna say, Max. Yep. You're debating a ghost right now. Yeah. I was gonna say that the Steelers defensive line and their linebackers played exceptionally well. Yeah. They're really, really, really good on defense. They limited Jayden to not scrambling at all. I think he had like maybe five yards rushing. We didn't really do any designed runs and when we did try to do them, they didn't work and he just got down immediately. They did a great job. The Pittsburgh Steelers are a very, very, very good football team. And if you look at how the commanders bounce back to their other great loss that they had, which was against the Ravens, I feel like we're in a good position. I trust Dan Quinn.
Starting point is 00:26:22 What was the game after the Ravens? I believe that was the Panthers. And that's when Mariota went out there and lit him up now. There's some frauds There's some there's some fraud talk out there. Yeah, also can I say I'm cuz the Bears season is completely over I've I'm now getting personally offended for you. Oh fraud time. Not I'm not offended by it Oh, I am because I saw someone Say the commanders have not beat they've lost all their games to winning teams and they've only beaten losing teams That's just not true. Yeah, they beat the Cardinals. Yes, they beat the Bears when they were four and two Yep, and they well, I mean they were they were and they also lost the Bucks who were a loser I don't know what I feel like those arguments always you just I guess the person was taking it their
Starting point is 00:27:06 Record at the time at the time which you can't do you can't do but if you do that You beat the Bears were foreign to you can't go you can't switch back and forth You can't be like, oh we beat the four and two Bears, but that accounts as a under 500 team But we also beat the the two and four Cardinals who are now six and two, like. Yeah, listen, you have to be consistent when you do your fraud stats. You either have to say, right now, what are the team's records? That you beat in the teams that you lost to.
Starting point is 00:27:33 If you go by right now, guess what? The Cardinals are a good team. We crushed the Cardinals. But here's why I'm not upset at all about the fraud talk. I, it's an honor to be called a fraud. As long as I've lived, I have, I've yearned for somebody to think highly enough of my football team to the point where they can hate my football team. I don't know. So the fact that no, I don't get, I don't,
Starting point is 00:27:54 I don't give a fuck. You can call me. Guess what? If you lose the Eagles by a lot, I, that's not a good thing to be like, you're a fraud. No, I'm talking about right now. As we stand right now, guess what? Bernie, Bernie Madoff, he lived a long time as a fraud and he had fucking islands that he vacationed. But he also had a great run, but he probably also stayed up every single night being like someone's gonna catch me. He had a great run being a fraud. And I think this is how big of a loser I am. This goes against Hank's all this messaging to me of how to handle winning. Now I'm gonna go against it for a second because being called a fraud, we haven't been nearly good enough in decades for somebody to to think that we're so highly rated that we could even possibly be frauds.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Got it. Nobody thinks that a four and fourteen team is a fraud, or excuse me, four and thirteen team is a fraud. So, but yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't agree with this sentiment, but okay. Yeah, going back to what Max was alluding to, but yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't agree with this sentiment, but okay. Yeah. Going back to what Max was alluding to, I think, uh, was the drop catches that, that Jayden had. Have you up, have you, have you recounted the ballots? Like there's some people- Did you watch the compilation that PFC put together?
Starting point is 00:28:55 No. And you know what? It was all pass breakups. It was, I think there were two drops and six pass breakups. That's, that's, that's not true at all. That's not true at all. And I forgot to put in the, uh, Luke McCaffrey drop that he had, which would have been another like 25 yards.
Starting point is 00:29:09 But I mean, I'm going to go back and repeat what I said on Monday, which is Jaden did not play his best game. It wasn't his best game. He didn't look outstanding. I made you say that though. Yeah, he did. But you're right. Yeah, no, no, good.
Starting point is 00:29:24 I'm happy for the listeners that we got that. Go to PFT's account. Why are you on Jaden Daniels? I'm trying to do too many things. Yeah. He did not play his best game but I think that he- Max did make you say that. He probably left about I'd say 65 to 70 yards on the field and drops and a touchdown that was dropped. Okay. Alright let. Let's see it. And George Pickens, George Pickens. Yeah, here we go. All right. That was a drop drop. That is one drop one drop. Watch Hank left. He's like, I don't want to do this. That's a pass break. No, the defender didn't touch it. I think the defender broke his hands there and got in front of his face.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Like he was covered. No, watch it bounces off his shoulder pads. Boom. That's a drop off his face mask drop. That's maybe a pass break up. Watch the replay. Okay. I mean he got his hands into his hands. He would have, Terry would have re-caught that. That's a drop. That's a drop. That was a catch. No, he dropped it. You can see it bounced off the ground. Okay. Yeah, that's how obviously. That's a pass break up. That's a pass break up and behind him. Yeah,'t see it bounce off the ground. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's how obvious it that's a pass-break Throw that's a pass breakup and behind him. Yeah, so there's two drops so far
Starting point is 00:30:50 How long is this video throw that's a bad throw? Those two drop and then there was a Luke McCaffrey one that he also dropped. Yeah Cuz that was that last one was a missed throw. I would say of the drops compilation that I put on That last one was a missed throw. I would say of the drops compilation that I put on There were at least three drops and it was between two and three and then then even how you're looking There was another one that I didn't include that. How did you not include also drop? Because I didn't have the I didn't have the replay of it. You can't count the one that you didn't include. That's true Like you put so many that weren't drops How am I supposed to believe?
Starting point is 00:31:28 This game is your entire season, PFT. I would agree. You think so? Yeah. I think I am rooting for the commanders and I will be personally heavily invested in them, but I think if they lose this game, it's their third playoff game that they've lost and it's the season's over. Can't lose them.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You guys will be officially be frauds. The teams you've beat are trash. Like you guys were celebrating and it was because it was an exciting game and a good finish. And so it's like, you know, you, you lived off of that Hail Mary, but it was against the bears. Yeah. Yeah. And we almost beat them. Yeah. We've got some great losses though. It's really good losses. I don't think your season's over. I think you'll still go to the playoffs. But I this is why I push back on the fraud thing. I don't being if you lose to the Eagles by a lot. Being a fraud like that sucks because everything you thought you thought is not real. Well, no, I disagree
Starting point is 00:32:19 because in this season, this is all this is all gravy. This is all extra. So I didn't think that the commanders had a good enough team roster wise to compete and even be this good and win this many games I was expecting you know eight wins tops but what if Jayden plays like he did last week again against the Eagles does that not make you nervous about we are obviously I want to see how many drops I want to see those also have a very good defense yeah I want to see Jayden continue to play well. That's obvious. But this is such an unexpectedly good season so far
Starting point is 00:32:51 that to have this many wins, I think, is great. I'm not going to be upset about outperforming expectations because it tells me, number one, we've got a quarterback that we can build around. Number two, our coaching staff did a hell of a job to get this much production out of guys that were either brought in off the scrap heap or guys that are holdovers from the previous regime that are just not, they haven't shown to be that good and to get them to all buy
Starting point is 00:33:16 in and outperform expectations. I think that's a great thing. So it's not like, it's hard for me to be disappointed about being a fraud if I never thought that we would even get to this place What I'm basically trying to say is it's on the table now and it's the true sicko and perverts are rooting for this and they're Who knows what's gonna happen? But if we were running a race The race started and Jayden Daniels car went so fast down down like he just was going so fast looking great Lambo My race started my car Didn't start and then it went like 60 miles an hour and then it literally blew up
Starting point is 00:33:56 There's another car that has shown up to the race That is showing that it could be faster than all the other cars and that would be the worst outcome Drake man. Yeah That's what everyone who's listening to this podcast is rooting for and it's like Look at his face. Look at his face. He's already gotten one out Do you think do you think that Drake is that car? I'm starting to believe You didn't know sick and so
Starting point is 00:34:27 Synology that car didn't have a driver because the driver was like I don't really care Yeah And then start off and then it started rolling a little bit and then the driver had to be convinced by his other two podcast Co-hosts to get into the car and start driving reluctantly and then he wins the race because the driver just wants to win races But that's the thing. Like winning, winning races against shitty cars doesn't matter. You want to beat the good cars. And when you've experienced winning those big races, then you know, beating lower tier
Starting point is 00:34:56 cars just doesn't really mean as much. So that is why they're as much there. I don't think, I think Jayden Daniels is very, very good. Would you say it looks great? But there's also just the fucked up nature of this ecosystem That that's the only part. It's like I'm not down on Jayden Daniels for any of his play I'm down on Jayden Daniels because of how this podcast operates. Yeah, would you say that? Does that make sense with this analogy big cat? Would it be fair to equate this to like getting a car that you love and you're super pumped up about it and you show off to everybody and then
Starting point is 00:35:29 you drive it around and then you keep bragging about it and then it stalls in the middle of the freeway during rush hour? Yeah, kind of like that. And then the Audi just shows up and it always runs well. I'm not down on Jaden at all. No, I'm not either. You know what I'm not I'm not down on Jaden at all. I'm not either. You know what I'm saying though. He had maybe One of his worst games of the season, which was still a good game. He was okay
Starting point is 00:35:51 Max No, I I actually agree with that. Yeah, it's fair to say yeah I'm not done on the only part of that. I'm down on with Jaden Daniels is that this is such a fucked up world that We live in Yeah, that car might, sitting on the couch, just like smirking a little bit, being like, whoops, me? Jane Daniels didn't make a bunch of mistakes last game. I just didn't think he had a good game.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah, if he had played like he did against the Bengals, then we probably would have won that game. There were a couple throws that he missed. There was one on that final drive, which would have probably gotten us into field goal range at the very least that he missed the one to Brown Yeah, he had a miss to McCaffrey when we were backed up in our own end zone that he missed so yeah There were some mistakes out there, but I still I'm still buying all the Jaden Daniels as you should I think that absolutely I think that he is absolutely one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL and let me double down on accountability
Starting point is 00:36:44 Eagles really haven't beat anyone either depending on who you think about the bet I think that he is going to be one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. And let me double down on accountability. Eagles really haven't beat anyone either. Depending on who you think about the bet. They obviously the Packers went at the beginning of the year, big win. And depending on what you think of the Bengals, those are the only two good, good wins. That's accountability. Yeah. And I'm going to stick with what I said that I think that the Eagles have the better team.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I think they've got the better roster. But if our quarterback plays to the top of his ability, I think that we can win this game. Yeah, my car is blown up. blew up. Also, massive Matt like it's my car is one of those like buses in India with like 100 people on the roof and it flipped. credit to the Steelers too, because Russell Wilson played very, very well. And I think swag, I think that the Steelers are a legitimate threat also Mike Tomlin You're not a degenerate. There was lip-reading afterwards where you said do not snap it. Do not snap it. Okay
Starting point is 00:37:33 So so he was not gonna go for that. Yeah, I mean that's it. That's a dumb ass Dumbass penalty we committed at the yeah. Yeah, okay Let's talk some college football before we do that Yeah, okay, let's talk some college football before we do that. Viator finding the perfect gift can be tough, especially one that won't end up in the back of a closet this holiday season. Do what I'm doing. Give the gift of planning unforgettable experiences with Viator. With Viator you can book guided tours, activities, excursions, and more. Viator has over 300,000 travel experiences to choose from, so it's easy to find something that everyone on your list will enjoy. Plus, they have real traveler reviews, so you can pick the perfect experience with confidence.
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Starting point is 00:39:18 Championship Saturday coming up very shortly, of, as we all expected on November 12th, the undefeated teams are Oregon BYU Army in Indiana. Hmm. Huh? Hmm. Huh? Indiana look good. Yeah. Well, they played Michigan kind of almost won that game. But yes, they, they, they're 10 and O. It was the first time that Indiana didn't just beat the brakes off someone. I think, I think there was a not so quiet conglomerate of people that were saying that this was the week though that Indiana gets introduced to real Big Ten football. Yeah, I mean that's been happening for the last three or four weeks and they just keep on winning and Kurt Signecki is coach of the year for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Indiana I think it's the first time, I think it's the first 10 win season for Indiana ever in football. I think being 9 and 0, I think that was the first time, I think it's the first 10 win season for Indiana ever in football. I think being 9-0, I think that was a record too for them. You see his daughter got engaged to after the game with a video board. His future son-in-law said being with you is like being 10-0 every day. I'm undefeated in life. Yeah. I don't know what his plan was if they lost to Michigan. Be like being with you is like being 9-1 in a really good season. Yeah, you're a 9 and I'm a 1.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And they have their big game against Ohio State coming up, which will be another noon game. That's the big controversy. Big noon kickoff, Ohio State's finishing the season with all six straight noon kickoffs. Can we talk about big noon Saturday real quick? Yeah, but before we talk about it, I just want to say, um, this makes no sense and he seems like a really nice guy. It weirdly bothers me that Joel Klatt's name isn't Joe Klatt. Joe Klatt? Yeah, I don't, I don't like that his name is Joel. I don't know. Joel Klatt? Yeah, I just, I, it's just an extra L that I just
Starting point is 00:41:01 don't really want to say. Schrodinger's Klat. Yeah, do you guys is that a crazy take? Kind of yeah, okay. I've never had a problem. I've always had a problem with it I don't know why Joel Joel clat like he's just a joke clat joke clat I don't I it just makes he's making me do more work joke lat. Yeah, but he went on a big Tangent being like it's actually good and it was essentially just saying it makes more money for Fox. Yeah so that's the thing about Big Noon Saturday is it is entirely it's a marketing gimmick that was designed by Fox to try to create a window of college football that people are excited to see where there
Starting point is 00:41:37 was not a window before. Correct. Where as in the past you had the the 330 on the East Coast kickoffs then you had the night games and those were like the two big windows and Fox has rights to TV games so they said why don't we just build an entire an entirely new brand of appointment television around an early game that's fine I it's nice to have more like a full day of big college football games it's nice to have one game that you can circle in each window if your house that has one TV. This is what I'm gonna be doing early in the day.
Starting point is 00:42:09 This is what I'm gonna be doing as I take a nap in the afternoon. This is what I'm gonna be doing when I eat dinner and watch a big college football game at night. That's kind of nice, but to make all your most important matchups happen that early, it feels like there's a lot of people that don't like watching those.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Number one, the fans that are going to the games. Yeah. Penn State, Ohio State should have been a night game. You don't have enough time to tailgate beforehand. You don't have enough time to get drunk enough to get a true home field advantage if you're at that game. And yeah, it's, it feels, it feels more important when it's at night. And it is, I have been a critic of Gus Johnson just because he has had at times been I've always I've liked Gus Johnson, but there's been times where it's like a Five yard out in West Lafayette at like 1105 and he says it's like winning the Super Bowl and it was a little too much But the reverse has happened and we've now killed Gus Johnson
Starting point is 00:43:01 I don't know if you could play that clip But he was he was dead on Saturday like the the big noon kickoff has killed Gus Johnson He has no life left to him. Can you play the audio of? the scoop and score I Don't know if you can yeah play it. Sometimes it's just too early in the day to get screamed at by the announcer, but this was a Scoop and score it was literally the Ohio State scored a touchdown. I know that the game was over and they were killing Purdue, but it was, it was insane. Oh, this is the other one. He had, he had two. This is another touchdown. This is the first quarter.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Howard sets up backside looks dumps it down has a wide open receiver G Scott touchdown He's trying to find the scoop and score. He's trying not to lose. It was even worse It was it was so bad Because he just yeah, he's got no life left to him All right, here's the scoop and score first down to the 25 25, 4 for New. And a fumble on the play. Ohio State is there. They pick it up and run it in for a touchdown. Jack Soe.
Starting point is 00:44:09 People aren't watching this. They're obviously only listening. We're not going to be able to put the video in. That was a, I know the Ohio State was up 31-0. That was a fumble recovery for a touchdown. It sounds like either a man that has the under in that game or a guy that's doing a crossword puzzle as he's doing the play-by-play for it. But big noon kickoff has killed Gus Johnson,
Starting point is 00:44:31 but we have it. We actually have the big game. Travis Hunter is playing big noon kickoff, I believe, this week in Colorado against Utah. Boys, it's getting very serious because Miami losing, Cam Ward, I don't wanna say eliminated from the Heisman, but that's a big blow. Well, Cam Ward, his case for being the Heisman winner was that he was able to bounce back
Starting point is 00:44:52 from any sort of deficit and just will his team to victory. And then when you don't do that, when the luck runs out, then kind of all the wind gets taken out of those sails. Yeah. And then we have Dylan Gabriel who's still lurking then we have Dylan Gabriel, who's still lurking, and Ashton Gentry is still lurking. Colorado has to win out. They have to win out and get to the Big 12 championship,
Starting point is 00:45:10 because I think that if you have a championship Saturday, and Dylan Gabriel, and Ashton Gentry, and Cam Ward are all playing, and Travis Hunter isn't, I think we might be fucked. That might be a problem. I'm actually going to stand up for Joe Klatt right now. Joe Klatt. So I'm going to be on Joe Clatt's side.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Okay. Because he brought up a very interesting point about Travis Hunter. When we talk about his snap count. Yeah. And I forget how many snaps he played this weekend. It was, I know he scored a touchdown in his hundredth snap. Okay. So that was around the third quarter or so.
Starting point is 00:45:38 So Joe Clatt pointed out that Travis Hunter actually played 170 snaps. When you factor in the penalty plays. Penalties, yeah. He actually played 170 snaps. When you factor in the penalty penalties. Yeah, he actually played those plays. They happened. Yeah. Whether you like it or not that that existed in the time space continuum. But just because there was a flag on the play, they don't count in the official stat sheet at the end of the day. 170 snaps insane. The interception that he had was incredible incredible that should have counted I just got to keep playing that interception over and over that's his Heisman moment That's his eyes maybe the first player to ever have a Heisman moment that didn't count. It didn't count
Starting point is 00:46:12 Yeah, so that that will be a big game Colorado. I I'm very nervous about the Kansas game Kansas is playing a lot better They're starting to cause chaos in the in the big 12 We also have so the SEC credit to Ole Miss Incredible performance against Georgia. They Georgia Georgia. They were their defensive line was so good and their defense as a whole was so good You thought like the way that game started it was sack sack fumble for Jackson dart and he got hurt and you're like oh here we go and then the Georgia scores on like the third play here we go this is gonna be a blowout their defense just kept them in that game and Jackson Dart obviously
Starting point is 00:46:54 gutted it out their backup to came in and had a really nice drive old miss is for real for real and we now have an SEC where there's three teams that are one loss teams and then there's another what five teams that have two losses and the craziest thing about the SEC this how deep the SEC is South Carolina who has three losses in the conference I would take them over probably three or four of the teams that are that only have two losses. Definitely A&M. I would take them over A&M. I'd take them over Mizzou. I'd take them over probably three or four of the teams that are that only have two laws definitely in him. I take him over in him. I take him over Mizzou. I take him over LSU because they should have won that game. They got screwed. And remember they kept they almost beat Alabama like they were in that game. They didn't beat them but they were in that game. So that's
Starting point is 00:47:38 how deep the SEC is. And we are headed for a collision course where if Tennessee loses to Georgia we're going to have a whole mess everywhere. Yeah, doomsday. Yeah. It's basically Tennessee losing to Georgia and Texas getting upset by Arkansas and it will be headed careening towards doomsday. Yeah, there's going to be some wild shit that plays out in the SEC.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I don't know that obviously Ole Miss's defense played very well, but this is kind of a running theme with Georgia where their offense is not as good as it has been. No, Carson Beck is not good. They don't have the run game going. The offensive line doesn't look great. Carson Beck looks weird and also is not that great this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Ole Miss, yeah, it's a big win for them. Huge, it's the one that Lane couldn't get and he got it. The university has never had wins like this Yeah, and they now I think they won one time against the top three opponent or something like that in this like it's it's been A very long time. Oh actually no it was I know what it was it was It was our guy Chad Kelly. Yeah, Alabama in 2014 or 15 or somewhere also best wishes to swag Kelly had a brutal injury in the the gray cup semi finals. He was holding his own leg together
Starting point is 00:48:49 with his hands really bad. That was really really tough to see but really really bad. The so the other SEC big matchup LSU is out. Brian Kelly. He's just such a loser. He's such a loser. Did you see the clip of him complaining to the refs about Alabama blitzing eight with like 15 seconds left. Mm-hmm LSU had their whole starters in they were trying to score a touchdown and I can't believe you blitzed I can't believe you complained to the refs about that He's just a loser loser loser and it's just so perfect that Notre Dame is gonna go to the playoff and LSU is not and like I wish they would just get rid of Brian Kelly because I want a route for LSU again I can't stand the guy and Jalen Milro is the most electric
Starting point is 00:49:34 I mean he was just so so every single time He he gets into open space and he does that like running sideways thing. I don't know how the angles work You're just dead to rights if he's got full steam. Who could have ever seen this coming, that that team was gonna try to beat LSU by having their quarterback run a lot on them? Yeah. Brian Kelly didn't see that coming.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Brian Kelly did not see that coming. And the fake mic on the sidelines was a disaster. Also, I think that might be an indictment on Brian Kelly. Yeah. Because Brian Kelly, you have to be smarter than that and stand up for yourself a little bit when it comes to endangering students to not look the other way when they're bringing a fucking live tiger onto the sidelines. That's facts. Just for your own brand. You have to be like, we're not going to do that again. It was a depressing fake Mike. He was, he was all doped up on
Starting point is 00:50:22 quail ludes passed out in a Glass like I don't know if that was a cage Omar. Bradley was like it. Yeah, it was Omar Bradley was not Mike the Tigers name was Omar Bradley and it came from a tiger dealer who has had Omar Bradley escaped twice From his cage and Brian Kelly was like fuck it. Okay. Yeah, that sounds safe enough We'll put him on the sideline bad bad. Oh, you think you think coach? Oh would ever allow a fake Mike know to be brought into the same Mike the tiger lives I think like 200 feet from the stadium correct and you're going out of state to outsource a Dangerous tiger with a history of prison breaks and you're bringing out the side. It was it was insane. Let's use change They're down bad. I have two two other shout outs
Starting point is 00:51:04 I want to give I want to give drive of the week to Army. They had a drive against North Texas. 21 plays, 94 yards, 13 minutes and 54 seconds off the clock. That's almost, I don't know how you could get more. That's classic Army drive. That's an insane drive. On most of those plays, they pretty much had three fullbacks on the field. Yeah. Yeah. Insane, insane drive. On most of those plays, they pretty much had three full backs on the field. Yeah, yeah. Insane, insane drive. And then the crazy chaos game of the night that most people probably weren't watching because it's too... Mizzou's still technically in it.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Trinkwitz said that after. He's like, we're still in the playoff picture because they only have two losses. Mizzou versus Oklahoma had back... It was... Oklahoma was down seven. They scored with like a minute and a half left Mizzou gets the ball fumbles the ball Oklahoma picks it up touchdown so now they're up seven with a minute left Mizzou then scores Oklahoma gets the ball with 30 seconds left they fumbled Mizzou gets a touchdown off the
Starting point is 00:52:00 fumble so he had to scoop and scores in the last two minutes to basically swing the game. Both teams were down seven and then Mizzou ended up winning by seven. Yeah. I thought the crazy game of the night though was BYU Utah. That was, yes, that was crazy. Utah, they won the game. Utah was just punishing them. Yeah. And BYU in the fourth quarter comes back. There's a lot of talk about the the was a defensive hold It was holding on the outside. Yeah, and the camera angle that we have is bad. You can't see anything It's also holding it also gives but if you're not a fan of BYU It gives you an opportunity to be like this is bullshit that clearly wasn't a hole because the camera angle is on the moon
Starting point is 00:52:39 But then you find out later that obviously there are fans in the in the stands that are taping it themselves Yeah, that have a better angle. I think it probably was a hold. Yeah, I think so too. I think there was a lot of contact there. But there was enough, it was close enough where there was a ton of controversy at the end of it. And Utah felt like they had that in the bag.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And that was just a crazy ending to it. I really enjoyed Terry McCAuley rules official. Maybe the most dunked on guy ever after this happened because he he said I'm gonna see if I can find it. He someone basically he basically was like it's a hold it's always a hold that's the correct call you know yeah like the end of story and someone he said, he said, I've looked at every pass play in the entire game, every complete route on the all 22, nothing even remotely close to defensive holding occurred against either team. Cause P Utah fans are
Starting point is 00:53:36 like, you can't call that now. You know, like it's, it hasn't been called all night. And then a guy said, first of all, thanks for the retreat. Second, I find it hard to believe that you found the all 22 footage. Those are under tight lock and key in any program third you clearly didn't examine the game definitely not in an hour DBS and wire receivers are physical all night quit lying and Terry McCauley just said I have access to every camera angle of every game in college football within minutes of each play that's such a and he also was like it do you realize that a football game takes there's like 13 minutes of action and the all 22 has run
Starting point is 00:54:07 Pass split up. He's like it takes me 20 minutes to watch every pass. So he doesn't watch the commercials Is that what you're saying? No, he has the all 22. Yeah, I'll tell you he does. He still is the I think he's replay Guy for NBC. Yeah, so Like you there's no way you could have watched things like I literally watched it all I need my Replay officials and my rules experts to be Italian call me old school. Yeah, but I like a good Dean Blandino I like a gene sterator. Yeah, I like those kind of guys. Yeah, Terry McCauley Seems a little too Irish to me to get it right, but he uh Mike Pereira you gotta have an Italian Yeah, memes is also talking back here about a a timeout that they
Starting point is 00:54:45 called no what was that Utah Stadium is too loud oh so BYU snaps it in the end zone they have a clear sack on them would have been a safety game over refs blow it dead there was an inadvertent timeout that Utah was too loud and the refs got together and called a timeout. Oh, that's bullshit Mm-hmm. That is bullshit. Okay. I also had I Had you Tom Moneyline and I sleep thinking it was over. Okay, so that is that is bullshit All right, justice for you top BYU is going to lose A game I'll say it right now. I'm gonna predict it.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Not a crazy prediction. They might lose two games down the stretch. I'm gonna pull up their schedule real quick. Isn't Utah, that's the school that has the nuclear reactor on campus where a couple years ago, after a bad loss, a student said that they were gonna go blow it up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:41 They were gonna detonate it. Yeah, that's right. BYU has Kansas, who's playing really good ball right now at Arizona State who's also playing really good ball and Houston who might be the turnaround team of the year and the fact that they were like the worst team possible in September and now they're very, very frisky. They're gonna lose at least one game. So it's been a great story. But BYU has been doing
Starting point is 00:56:01 this living, you know, very, very dangerously for a while now. Okay, anything else? I mean the rankings, they're going to come out with the rankings. We're taping this in the afternoon, but there's nothing that can surprise me. I do think they should put more credit on SMU. That's my big thing. And I don't know, I mean, we'll see. The SEC still has to work itself out because you have Tennessee Georgia coming up
Starting point is 00:56:26 You have Texas A&M Texas coming up like there's big games. I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee was able to beat, Georgia Yeah, because they're not a great team. I just don't know about is not a great team either No, George's offense is not that good. Tennessee's defense is pretty good. Yeah, no, Tennessee's even it's good I just don't worry about Nico in a road environment. Okay, let's do hot seat cool throne and then we got our interview with Julius Randall coming up. Hot seat cool throne is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. No matter what happens between your favorite rivals this week, you've got a chance to win. Just go to the PMT Instagram and tell us how you prepare for a rivalry game with Coors Light. For an opportunity to win the Coors Light rivalry shirt.
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Starting point is 00:57:41 that's coreslight.com slash take. Celebrate responsibly Coors Brewing Company Golden Colorado. Henry. My hot seat is hopefully Jake Paul. Oh okay. He's fighting Mike Tyson this weekend I think on Friday. I don't really care about it I'm not gonna watch it but they're they have a Netflix show I haven't watched that either but I saw the clip where it was like a vintage Mike Tyson clip where it's him Watching TV and Jake Paul is doing a press conference. He's like, sorry Mike. I'm gonna beat your ass whatever and it's Mike Tyson He's like he's a he's a natural
Starting point is 00:58:17 He's a man-made killer I forget exactly natural born killer No, he's like he's a man-made killer like he's a media decided. He was a killer. He's like. I'm a natural-born kill Oh, I love that's a difference like it literally gives me goosebumps every time I watch it It's vintage Mike Tyson, and I feel like these fights are always disappointing and this one I still feel like it will be but that quote got me fired up And I am hoping I go on social media and see him like knock him the fuck out Our good friend Tom Frinelli pointed out something to me via text last night, and it didn't dawn on me till he said that This is this very well could just be Billy versus Kinseko
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah, so to me the whole build up to this feels Billy versus Kinseko feels like this is boomer porn where you see Watch this clip, can we pull up the clip? Because think think about it this way You've got Mike Tyson who's a legend and a lot of older people grew up watching be like this man can kill anybody which at the time is a hundred percent true and then they naturally grow to hate the Paul brothers because they're like emblematic of everything that Millennials and Gen Z ears are doing and so you're like my guy that I've loved is going to knock the fuck out of this Young little pissant and you have all this hope leading up to it to watch the younger generation get there like comeuppance
Starting point is 00:59:28 And at the end of the day the older generation is also still very old Yeah Probably out of shape and probably not able to punch nearly as hard as they could and it's just gonna be very very Disappointing to anybody over the age of like 40. It will be super disappointing This this clip is probably propaganda, but it will sell a lot of fights. But it is. It's Billy versus Kenseiko, where it's like, the older guy, everyone's like, holy shit, he's going to demolish him. This is going to be like, a bloodbath. How is this young guy even taking this fight? And the older guy will most likely
Starting point is 01:00:00 get hurt like 30 seconds in. Yeah yeah Billy did win though. It's true God Mike I love you, but this is my sport now to honor to get in the ring with you I'm so so honored you're a legend, but I'm gonna take your throne brother I'm so so honored you're a legend but I'm gonna take your throne brother. There's a fundamental difference between me and Jake. He's a manufactured killer. Television and papers made him a killer. He's manufactured. I'm a natural born killer. That's the difference. That's a great clip. The only problem I have is it's Jake Paul saying I'm going to take your throne. Mike Mike hasn't had the throne for 20 years. Yeah. Now what's the more than
Starting point is 01:00:51 20 years like 30 years. What's the head gear. I don't know. Again like I'm not even going to watch this fight. I just and I don't think I think it's going to be Billy versus can say go like if you like a clip it will be like, you know, it'll that'll be on a rap song That would be a great rap song like that is a great quote of just like it does give you goosebumps Yeah, but he should have called out Tyson Fury Yeah, no, he's not he's a natural-born killer. He was a natural-born killer. Like he's a natural-born killer He's just old he did Mike Tyson did say something like I iron Mike has come back and I can't control him when he comes back Which that's also scary for other reasons
Starting point is 01:01:26 Okay, good hot seat And then my cool throne on the brassica corn huskers. Yeah Dana yeah, Dana Holgersen will serve as the Nebraska offensive coordinator first USC and I think for the rest of season Yeah, this bullshit cuz Wisconsin plays him next week. Oh, no. Yeah, they I mean he's gonna fix their offense No doubt no doubt about it. I love it. I love it Our guy Dana your best friend my best friend. I'm happy for him. Yeah You had another cool zone. Yeah PMT documentary episode 2
Starting point is 01:01:58 Drops Wednesday night. Okay, so today. Yeah tonight tonight. This is how we promo We've arrived at the promo of barstool Vantarcelo van tar love it well no I don't love it actually no I do love it episode one was very very good yeah I was one's good job you know what I love it because I wouldn't we would have this podcast wouldn't be creating towards year nine if we had kept that show there's more there's more there's more juicy stuff too there's more I think the episode one was good but it was all relatively known there's there's more there's more there's more juicy stuff to this more I think the episode one was good, but it was all relatively known there's there's more there's more there's more details with this one Yeah, that was the best thing that's ever happened to us by far. It sucked in the moment
Starting point is 01:02:32 It was a very bad feeling when it happened, but looking back on it god damn. I'm so happy I didn't have to work. I just remember getting when it got cancer We got I got so high that I got trapped in a Call of Duty Commercial it was like one of those when the new Call of Duty came out and they did like the three minute commercials And I was so high sitting on my couch trying to like numb away being canceled And I was just like the commercial got like two minutes in I was like did I change the channel where the fuck am I right now? I remember what happened right after it was canceled. You know how we dealt with her misery. You guys are spoiling on the dock Oh, okay Happened right after it was canceled. You know how we dealt with her misery. You guys are spoiling on the dock. Okay
Starting point is 01:03:05 All right Did I say the call do anything? Oh shit my bad. Did I say where we went right afterwards? Yeah, all right Yeah. Yeah. All right tune in the doc. No spoilers Good job, but I'm brand PFT your hot seat cool to run. My hot seat is Cleanliness, okay. You see the story about Syracuse head coach? Yes. So Syracuse head coach Fran Brown says that after losses, he doesn't allow himself to shower because only winners get soap. Or excuse me. Yeah. Winners get washed. Winners get soap.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I like that. Afterwards, he just he doesn't feel that he's entitled to shower because he doesn't deserve it after losing. He just he doesn't feel that he's entitled to shower because he doesn't deserve it after losing Basically saying you get a piece of dry like steel wool and you can spit on yourself and that's the only way that you can wash I uh, I like this. I like this cinnamon. I kind of disagree though Shouldn't you wash off a loss and keep the mo mojo going for a win? You want to don't ever change what about the stink of losing? Yeah, you want to wash it off. You want to get that off that doesn't motivate you? No, I want to keep the I want to keep the wind and never change anything. But if you were dirty, wouldn't
Starting point is 01:04:12 you be more motivated to win so that you can shower? No, you maybe no, I guess. But I would. It's like a lucky pair of underwear. I want to keep wearing it. You keep going until. Yeah. Like being clean, smelling good is the mark of a loser. Yeah, right. Your winner is just rolling through it. Your must should take over. He should try it both ways.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah, but he probably has. I remember there was a team, I think it was Derek Dooley, when he coached at Tennessee. And they were on a losing streak. And he blamed it on the lack of shower discipline on his players. So at practice, he had them gather around. And he had to show them how to wash their ass with a loofah Here's where you put the soap. Here's how you what here are the hot zones that you have to get
Starting point is 01:04:53 Okay, that's that's a mark of a loser head coach. Yes when he's coaching showering. Yes But I still appreciate it from the football guy mentality. Yeah, no, I like that part to be like you should test it both ways It's all I'm saying but also for I don't know if he extends that to the team or if that's just for himself. If it's for himself, I love it. He's like, I won't allow myself to shower. What happens if he loses before like a 10 day layoff over Christmas? Just you're gonna have a smelly Christmas. That's bad. Yeah. And then my cool throne is Stu Finer. Our good friend Stu Finer. Tonight, Wednesday in Chicago at the Laugh Factory, Stu is doing a stand-up routine about his life.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Oh, no. I'm lucky enough to host it. Nick's going to be there. Mook's going to be there. So the 12-hour show? They're taping it for a special. So this is Stu Finer's. Oh, he's doing a special?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah, Stu Finer's doing a special tonight. Yeah, so he's going to do a stand-up routine about his life. I think the rest of us, we might roast Stu with our time on stage. But yeah, that's going to be a five hour show. Yeah, it's never ending. We'll see. It's going to be a double, double VHS. Tickets are on sale right now. If you want to go to the Stu Finer, the intermission and everything like that. I don't know. I don't know what there has to be. Listen, nobody can control students No, I fat what you just described sounds like you're he's gonna be in like sixth grade one hour in yeah Yeah, it's it. That's definitely a possibility Yeah, but I'm excited about I'm excited to be there that will be fun. All right. My hot seat is cheap wedding guests Did you guys see there was a viral post the other day? A woman said we just got married yesterday. We spent $60,000 on our wedding with a guest count of 270 we worked our butts off and pushed so many bills rent etc only taking out a loan of $4,000 for my mom and
Starting point is 01:06:38 We received $3,000 in cash and checks total from cards We're freaking out. We thought we'd get more and the lowest card amount was $10 and this woman is basically like, we expected a lot more for all of our guests and now we're fucked. I think that you need to just be friends with richer people.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I also think that- What would your math tell you? Was it 270? Well, the only thing that I'd ask is if they had a registry, if they had a registry with like pots and pans, they fuck themselves. They should have just been like registry is cash. Yeah, right. Uh, I would have, I would expect for 270 people. Um, I'm trying to do the math. There are probably a lot of couples. I'm gonna say I would expect at least 10 grand. At least 100 bucks is what you like 100 bucks is a typical, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:35 depending on where you are in life. 100 bucks is I feel like is the minimum you give it a wedding. Is that not right? I't know, because the registry plays an important part in it. With a registry, even if that's 27. If the average gift on the registry is between 50 and 150 bucks, you get people that spend 100 bucks on a gift. And then they don't necessarily put up nearly as much as they would have. That's what I'm saying. The registry is all if there was a registry, then they fuck themselves. If you're counting on this wedding to fund your honeymoon, then you just make a honeymoon
Starting point is 01:08:05 fund instead of doing a registry at all. Yeah. I'm saying minimums too. Like I've, I even when I didn't have money, it would be like 300, 500. Like if it's a close friend, that's what you do. Minimum is a hundred. You got to pay for your meal and the drinks. That's kind of what you do it.
Starting point is 01:08:21 $10 is the big, I would fucking send that back to the person also 270 people is too big for a wedding. Yeah, you want people, but they probably like we're gonna cash in yeah like that minimum They should have had ten grand. I actually think that's crazy. You gotta get rich your friends. That's or these people are just shitty people ten dollars What do you give max hundred a person now? I give more than that. Yeah, I look at that baller a hundred a person is like Very that's I'm saying that's minimum you're getting a full meal a band a full bar. Maybe it was cash bar Cash bar you'd give nothing. That's a good point. Yeah cash bar. You get nothing destination wedding
Starting point is 01:09:04 You'd give nothing. That's a good point. Yeah cash bar. You get nothing destination wedding Maybe could have been a destination. I do like to go when I go to weddings I'd like to bring like a bunch of cash and not have signed the card yet and I'll I'll my gift will be based on the time. I had you put the stack of cash And you start really good fluctuate. Yes on the playlist bad DJ. Yeah, how was the dinner was there multiple? What were the hors d'oeuvres like it's basically based off the hors d'oeuvres a lot of times these registries have the the the thing that you Can just give money to there. It's like a vent. There's no even excuse because you can just be like oh shit I forgot to get cash. Oh, whatever. I'll just I'll just go onto the website Donate there and then just write
Starting point is 01:09:45 right on the card. Yeah, gift is in gift isn't on the website. This is insane. And then my cool throne is the NBA Cup because it's back. And we have an awesome promo going with DraftKings. We're going to start doing our NBA Cup picks. So people will be listening to this, obviously the games happen. But going forward, we're going to release it on all the socials on Tuesdays. So next week look out for our picks on Tuesdays. You'll actually if you're listening to this right now, you can go and look at our picks that we've already made on our socials and we'll look like idiots. But DraftKings has a great promo on the NBA Cup, so check it out and we're gonna be we're gonna be getting in on the NBA Cup this year.
Starting point is 01:10:24 We're battling for the NBA Cup Cup. We have the NBA Cup Cup here in the studio. Yeah we do it's sitting right over there so we're gonna have some fun with that and and hopefully no we'll be bad. I'll be taking the Sixers plus three against the Knicks tonight which is the biggest loser on the board. I was gonna take the Sixers money line mmm But that's fine. You can take them against spread Love the NBA. I'll take I'll take the points for sure. I love the NBA cup. Oh, I'm gonna take oh, I know it This will this will be very stupid when you listen to this I'm just gonna take every single clay Thompson over first time back in Golden State. Yep. He's gonna go nuts
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Starting point is 01:13:38 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest in studio, three time NBA All-Star, two time first team. I wish. How many times first? I'd be up though, please. All right. Two, three time all-star. He's been in one of the all, uh, all NBA teams at least twice.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Yeah, we don't, it doesn't matter which one it is Julius Randall, uh, from the Minnesota Timberwolves. Does that sound weird saying it? Because it's, it's still new, right? It's still very new. Yeah. So how, let's start with that. How is, how's the first month and a half that you've been on the Timberwolves and like feeling everything out and, and yeah, I mean, it's gotta be weird. Yes. It's definitely new, you know, especially you've been somewhere for five years. I was like at a mall with my wife and lady comes up to me and she's like,
Starting point is 01:14:26 you must play basketball. We play for it. I'm like the, I'm Timberwolves. So it was like one of those situations, but it's been great, man. I'm loving it. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you got traded like late, like right before the season. Is that especially weird not having a like training camp and everything with your new team? You're just like, all right, now I'm on this team. Yeah, man, because it's a like at that point, you think like if anything happens, it'll be during the year, you know, right before the trade deadline. So, you know, for it to happen like two days before whatever training camp was was kind of crazy because you know
Starting point is 01:15:11 More the basketball part is easy, but like adjusting and moving a family like my son. It just started school He was in school for a little bit So like that was probably like the hardest part just getting adjusted, but you know, it's cool. No, we're good Yeah How long did it take you to get used to the business of the NBA and understand that sometimes things happen to you, not because it's like them. Maybe you still feel like upset if you get traded. You're like, man, I don't feel like they really appreciate me if they're willing to trade me away. But I feel like a lot of players that have been in your position at some point, you kind of figure out that it's not personal. Yeah, I got used to it. I mean, pretty quickly. I think maybe my first wake up call was with the Lakers.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And you know, LeBron was coming to town and I was like, well, LeBron's coming, so. You know, you gotta figure it out. You know, and that's how I ended up in New Orleans for a year. But I mean, that was probably like my first time. And then from then on, it's just been like, you know, the business is it is what it is. And you kind of got to, you know, roll with it and adjust.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I think you were also unlucky your first time because they had to like renounce you. They had to use the word renounce. Nobody likes to be renounced. Yeah. That's a fucked up way to put it. Yeah. I mean, to be fun, be honest though, like I asked for that.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I please asked for that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I- Please renounce me. Yeah, because I was, it was a situation where I was younger in my career and you know, I was coming off a pretty decent year with the Lakers and I just kind of wanted to continue to grow. So, you know, the Buss family, I had a great relationship with them and you know, they
Starting point is 01:16:42 helped me get to a good situation with that. Yeah, I think in Minnesota, it's also a compliment, like them and you know, they helped me get to you know, a good situation with that Yeah, I think in Minnesota. It's also a compliment like they wanted you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely like especially, you know In these situations, you know, I've I'm pretty secure who I am as a player, you know at this point in my career You know the shock obviously was a shock at first Just with everything. But from like day one, like the moment that I got traded, I already knew Finchey because I played for him in New Orleans. So from a basketball standpoint, like when it happened, I'm like, well,
Starting point is 01:17:18 I really want to play for Finchey, like I'm excited about that. You know what I mean? But like the organization like Tim, Matt and Dell, like A-Rod, like all those guys like called me and were just telling me how excited they were for me to be there, you know, how much they wanted me, you know, how long they were working on a trade, all those different types of things.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And you know, after I got over the initial shock, it was like, all right, man, I'm I'm somewhere where I want it. I'm wanted. Yeah. Yeah. You know, appreciated the value. So like, you know, just took a little bit to like change my perspective and look at it differently. But once I was able to do that, like I was so extremely comfortable just being there. Was it was there part of you like, oh, I get out of Tibbs practices now. I mean, there has to have been. And I'm a Tibbs guy, but everyone says
Starting point is 01:18:08 the practices are brutal. Yeah, you know what's funny, man? We have these conversations all the time in the locker room. I'm like, Ant, man, what kind of practice is this gonna be today? And he like, man, we just might watch film and da da da da. I'm like, word? Okay, might watch film and da da da da. I'm like, word?
Starting point is 01:18:26 Okay, bet. I get excited, you know what I mean? I get a little peppered by stuff. So you know what I mean? It's, you're somewhere for such a long time. And I appreciate Tibbs. It's like, Tibbs is like a coach that's gonna have you every game super prepared.
Starting point is 01:18:42 You not gonna miss a beat on anything that's gonna go on. But also, here, it's different. Fitch has us prepared, but we're also empowered as players to be adults, to be professional, and come in every day, do our job. And he trusts us with that responsibility. So it's very empowering as a player. And it feels like everyone who has played for TIbs, like they'll be like, yeah, the
Starting point is 01:19:07 practices are brutal. He grinds you hard, but he also brings the most out of you. Cause like you had your, your best year, you know, uh, whatever it was probably his second year, I think in New York, like that's in like, we've had Joaquin on here. He's like, yeah, if I, Tibbs was a real motherfucker, but like, if I didn't have them, I wouldn't have gotten the best out of my ability Yeah, I mean like at that point in my career like Tibbs was the perfect coach for me You know, I mean he got the most out of me He pushed me
Starting point is 01:19:35 You know, he gave me ample opportunity, you know to grow as a player. So like I appreciate him Yeah for what he was and and you know what he meant to my career during that time. Yeah. Did you ever think about going back to school and getting a master's degree from Villanova so you could fit in? Hell no. You fit in with all the guys? Absolutely not. I think I chose the right wildcat. Yeah. So what did Dante say to Tibbs?
Starting point is 01:20:07 You know, I'll leave that to Tay. Okay. We'll have to have him on just to tell us what he said. Yeah, we'll see. But that was fun for a preseason game. It was a lot of, it was a lot of energy. It was a lot of energy. It was a lot going on that night. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So you're, uh, you know, your time at Kentucky, Cal, like that was when Kentucky was rolling. You guys go to the championship game. I'm a, I went to Wisconsin, so I was actually sitting like, I was sitting like maybe 20 feet from what was it? One of the Harrison's hit that three. Yep. That destroyed me. Uh, was there ever a moment during that game? You're
Starting point is 01:20:41 like, we can't lose to these white guys. You know, I feel like that was crazy is like, that was like, once we got through Wisconsin, I was like, oh, we got it. Yeah, you didn't. Like exactly. Cause I'm like, man, like Wisconsin was our hardest game with a tournament by far.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Like I'm like, bro, these dudes use 35 seconds of every single shot clock. Like super disciplined, like they're not gonna beat themselves, like. So it was like one of those games, and like it was like one of those games too, like the whole time it was like we never felt like we had any momentum.
Starting point is 01:21:18 Until obviously Aaron hit that shot. And then like once we did that, we're like, man, like we got this, like, you come, like we thinking like, no disrespect to did that, we're like, man, we got this. You come, we're thinking, no disrespect to them, but we're like, man, this is ours. And like you said, it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't. So what kind of coach was Cal?
Starting point is 01:21:36 Because I feel like he gets a, not a bad rep, but he obviously, there's a lot of times, especially his end of Kentucky, where it's like they weren't winning as much in the tournament. And he was talking about his draft picks and everyone's making jokes. But like, he seems like a guy who every player loves. Yeah, it's funny because it doesn't matter like who. Like, I remember when I first got to Kentucky
Starting point is 01:21:58 and Demarcus and like 80 and those guys, they came back and they were like, man, this motherfucker's crazy. You know, I should have been a number one pick, like just messing with him, I should have been a number one pick, Cal held me back, Cal held me back, man. Like da da da da, right? And like we always give him a hard time
Starting point is 01:22:18 and it doesn't matter if it's him or like I'm talking to Rob, who was just there last year. And we're like, man, we hated Cal when we were at Kentucky. Coached us hard, like, you know, he's a tough coach. Like, he's gonna be on your ass. And he's like one of those type of dudes. And then like, everybody has the same story.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Like when you leave, you love Cal. Everybody loves Cal. And like, man, Cal just forget like like the culture just like as a human being and Like who he is to his core like he's done things for me and my family After I've left, Kentucky that Like will be good with me forever. Yeah, I'll do anything for Cal Yeah, I mean and like after I got traded he was one of the first people that called me Yeah, check in on me and see how I'm feeling like, you know
Starting point is 01:23:04 So he's that type of person that really cares about the person. Yeah. It also is cool. I feel like Kentucky is one of those schools because they don't have an NBA team in Kentucky. Like all Kentucky fans root for Kentucky players for the rest of their career, like in the NBA, like they're all, do you notice that? Will you go and like see, you know, Kentucky fans at random arenas like cheering you on
Starting point is 01:23:26 Yeah, absolutely. It was a Saw Kentucky fans somewhere random. Yeah, maybe I'm in Minnesota. I don't know where I saw him but like Like I'll see him like on vacation like from in vacay on vacation somewhere and they're like man we Big blue nation like that like Big Blue Nation or whatever it is. And I'm like, you know what I mean? So like, you're really tied in forever when it comes to Kentucky. Yeah, it was very cool.
Starting point is 01:23:51 What was the sales pitch like to get you to go there? Was Cal like, I will make you rich beyond your own. Yeah. And then you'll get drafted to the NBA and make more money. Yeah, well, here you go. No, I mean, to be honest, it was two things. It was like I wanna win, you know, because for me the national championship was in Dallas.
Starting point is 01:24:12 It was in my hometown. So it was that. And then it was like you're gonna be out of here in eight months. Right, yeah, right. You know what I mean? Like I'm not gonna keep you here, like type thing. So like it was those two things and then like
Starting point is 01:24:26 Just visiting I'm a basketball guy like you know to my to my core in my heart and like visiting Like it was probably only one of the place That I really visited and I was like man. This place is like crazy, which was Kansas like What was it? What's the arena? Yeah, Fog Allen. Fog Allen, yeah, yeah. Whatever it is, like that arena was crazy. And like Kentucky, I was like, man, I get to play in front of 20,000 every single night. Yeah. There's nothing better than that.
Starting point is 01:24:53 So obviously going to Kentucky, you're like a five star recruit coming out of high school. What was the point growing up that you're like, oh shit, I'm different than everyone else. Like, I'm this is, I'm so much better everyone else. I like 11 years old. That's awesome Dominating everyone in 11. Yeah What was your stat lines? I mean, it was my mom to be honest cuz my mom she like for every like growing up I was always bigger than everybody and
Starting point is 01:25:24 She always made me play like a grade up, two grades up, three grades up. So like I'm playing against older kids and I'm like, I'm okay, but I'm not like that good. And then I played my first grade, my first time I played my grade was like 10, 11 years old. And I was like, what the old and I was like what the hell I was like man. This is like the easiest thing ever like I couldn't believe it Like I was bigger faster stronger than everybody. I was just more skilled because I was playing up. Yeah in advance. So it was like
Starting point is 01:25:57 That was like aha moment. I just kind of never looked back from there. What was your what was your what was your best? High school game. Did you do you remember like one that you like put in an insane amount of points? I just love thinking about like because anyone who's obviously in the NBA, they've just been so much better than everyone for such a long time. It's got to be the best feeling. I play. I mean, my high school, like I like like we were one of the best teams like in the country, like during my time there, I had like 15, like three quarters or something like that. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Was it fun? Like 20 shots. Yeah, it's gotta be the most fun. Yeah. It was a lot, always, high school's probably like the most fun ever for basketball. Dominating everyone. I read a story that when you were playing AAU,
Starting point is 01:26:43 I don't know if you were 11 or 12, but you your team was so good that you guys flew private. I don't know if it was because we were so good. But yeah, we did. That was that was the first time I played my grade though. Yeah. So it was like a funny basically how the story was is like I played up until this team called the Texas Titans started.
Starting point is 01:27:07 The guy shout out to the trout family. Amazing, amazing family that took care of a lot of people. But the dad, he was starting a team for his son. That was a billionaire starting a team for his son. And basically was his son was my age. He had two sons. He had one my age and one like maybe two years younger than me or whatever. And he was basically starting a team for a son. And, you know, people who played on the team, we were flying like the Mavericks playing
Starting point is 01:27:41 right up his kids, you know, but he was, the bigger thing was like, in AAU, like, you know, you had to pay for everything and you're out of pocket for everything. So like being a single, my mom being a single parent, like I used to watch her struggle to like take me to tournaments across the country and drive and all different types of stuff. And he took care of everything.
Starting point is 01:28:02 So like he took care of like, obviously we were flying private, but like hotels, hotels like parents everything was there so it was just like I'm dominating my age group And I'm flying everywhere. Yeah, you know I mean like it was it was craziest experience of my life That does sound like the best yeah, and then you have to you go to high school I would try it was high school that was a different team from the a you team right? Yeah You have to play for your high school team You don't fly anywhere. Yeah, we I mean we flew but We flew American Airlines
Starting point is 01:28:34 Actually might have been Southwest but yeah, we it was a different kind of travel for sure Yeah But I mean at the end of the day the fact that your travel was taking care of it allowed a lot of people to play Against competition that they wouldn't get to play against otherwise, right? It was crazy, man. It was like, I couldn't, I don't even really know how to explain it, but as a kid, it was insane.
Starting point is 01:29:00 It was the most fun time of my life. All you look forward to is like, all right. Even like when the summer would end, like AU season would be over with and school would start. And like, you know, basketball season probably wouldn't start again until November or December. Like that's all you look forward to because like I'm playing with my best friends. We're traveling across the country like rock stars everywhere. You know what I mean? Playing against the best teams
Starting point is 01:29:26 killing like, you know, winning tournaments all over the country, like exposure, all this different type of stuff, visiting different cities as a kid, like it's, it was insane. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it was just like my experience growing up, you know, compared to what I was used to, like, and then to get that experience, like, man, it was like, you know, exposure is everything. Opportunity is everything. And for me to be able to like see that at such a young age, that's why like I bring my son,
Starting point is 01:29:58 my oldest son, like I've always brought him with me, like everywhere to like games and stuff. Cause it's like the exposure just to be able to see like what's possible. Yeah, was like huge for me. Yeah, you know, I mean, so like the seat at a young age, it was like even like then like we used to go to he had like four seats at the Mavericks games and like he used to bring us to the Mavericks games and we were like kids sitting court side and Mavericks games
Starting point is 01:30:22 and like Kobe was my favorite player. Yeah, like I got to see Kobe at a young age like andvericks games and like Kobe was my favorite player. Yeah. So like I got to see Kobe at a young age. Like, and just to see that, like it was like seeing Jesus. Like, you know what I mean? So it was, it was crazy, you know, and I think that had a lot to do, uh, you know, with my growth and, um, you know, where I am today. Visualizing it.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Yeah. That's, that's huge. So you mentioned Kobe, you get drafted by the Lakers. Kobe's at the end of his career. Does, is he still psycho Kobe in terms of his workouts and everything? Is there a story? Yeah, like we've, I, we've heard them all, but what was the one where you're like, Oh man, this guy is different. I would just say like me going to his like he will work out obviously crazy early
Starting point is 01:31:10 like five o'clock in the morning or whatever it is, six o'clock and just like, I probably told this story before, but just like I've never been to a workout where I go first off at six o'clock, five o'clock in the morning and we do defense for two hours. So you don't even dribble a basketball?
Starting point is 01:31:27 We would have days where we would not dribble a basketball. Oh my God, that's like Hoosiers, yeah. Two hours, two and a half hours, and he was so technical. Like, no, you can't slide that way. You can't move your feet. But literally, you think I'm exaggerating. We would do defense early in the morning for like two hours and I'm just like
Starting point is 01:31:46 this dude's insane. Yeah. He's insane. Like it was, and it was just his mentality. It was just different. Like, yeah. And that's crazy to consider. Like that's the end of, you know, his career. That was the end. Like when he's in his 30s. Yeah. What he was like at 20 25 Yeah, really third like What was he with every practice was it just full on like this is this is the most important game? No Oh, okay. No, he was like cuz he was he was at the end Yeah, so like his body and like he was injured a lot during that time. So yeah, he wasn't holding up Yeah, you know me so it was like it got to the point like we saw Cove at practice holding up, you know what I mean? So it was like, it got to the point,
Starting point is 01:32:23 like we saw Cove at practice, we're like, oh my gosh, like Cove's here, type thing. That's why you saw that whole viral clip of him going in on like Jeremy Lin and Nick Young, when they were fighting, the whole practice clip where they were fighting. It was cause like people were joking, they were like, man, Cove is here,
Starting point is 01:32:40 like we can't like believe in like sarcastic, and he just kicked everybody's ass. Do you think you play him one on one? Yes. Did you ever beat him? Absolutely not. Absolutely, but that was like the thing too, it was like when I played him like one on one
Starting point is 01:32:56 and like, I loved that, like I wanted to compete. Like, so like as a young player, I'm a rookie, I'm getting there early. And you know, I'm thinking I'm, you know, doing what I'm supposed to do as a young player, getting there early. And I'm getting there early. And I'm thinking, I'm doing what I'm supposed to do as a young player, getting there early. And he was already there, working out full sweat. So I'm walking onto the court and he's like,
Starting point is 01:33:12 Jude, come play one on one. And yeah, I thought I was gonna get him. In my mind, I'm like, I'm... And then he just, he flipped the switch and it was curtains. Yeah. Crafty, Yeah. Yeah. That must have been a crazy experience, though, going from like watching him
Starting point is 01:33:28 court side when you were a little kid. It was. Are you able to go hard? Are you able to like play as hard as you want to against a guy that you looked up to for that long? Yeah, absolutely. It was just like like it's like one of those moments like, you know, you meet your idol. Not only do you meet your idol, which you're playing on the same team as your idol. And, uh, you know, it took a while to process, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:33:52 Cause you're just. It's like you watching every single thing he does. Yeah. I, this might be a dumb question, but I'm curious whenever I talk to an NBA player to know how you come up with new moves for yourself. Like how you put wrinkles in your game. Is it something where you spend most of your time or if you're watching like somebody else, you pick up things here and there or do you have to get in like a creative mindset to figure something out?
Starting point is 01:34:16 I think it's like maybe two things. I think like one is like you have like a game that you do, or whatever your go-to is, or what you feel comfortable doing, and you just kind of build up off of that. And then, so you might add, I always got that from Cove, you don't have to add 10 things to your game, add one or two things, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:39 If it's a, you got to step back, add a pump fake step through to it, or whatever it is. So you have that. And then like it's like little crafty things to like like one year I had it like they took it out the game, but I used to have like the off arm sweep through that I had or like now you have to have two hands on it. You know what I mean? So like little crafty things where you learn
Starting point is 01:35:02 how to like draw fouls or, you know, learn how to just kind of like manipulate the defense and stuff like that. So like it's one you add to like the base of what you already do. And then others just like little crafty things that I might see a player do. And like, man, I like that. Let me try that out. Yeah. When did you know that you were awesome at spin moves? Because that's like when I think of Julius Ray, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:35:31 when was that? I don't know. I feel like it's always been like, it's just natural. Yeah. That's the move. It's always been a part of me. Yeah. Do you, so I looked up on pro basketball reference, they have all your nicknames. I want to know how many of these actually people have ever called you they have big Jew
Starting point is 01:35:49 King Julius Don Julio Don Julio Don Julio. Okay, I don't know. I don't know who's Don Julio because it's Julius orange Julius never People have called me that but that's not like a real name. Okay. And then Beyblade. Beyblade, yeah, I think that was like-
Starting point is 01:36:08 That's cause of the spin it. Yeah, yeah. That's an awesome nickname. I had to look up what Beyblades were. It's like a Japanese animation. And they spin around. That's an awesome nickname. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I just keep spinning. Yelling big Ju at you, I would just be like. I don't know. I mean, I just keep spinning. Yelling big Jew at you. I would just be like, I don't know if I... Yeah, that one's a little... I actually got, yeah. I got big Jew. That was a nickname I got when I first got to Minnesota too.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Okay. Who gave you that? Free. Okay. Yeah, you are. How is it like, you obviously saw Anthony Edwards last year in the playoffs and everything. When you get to like play with him, he does feel like a guy who just makes everyone better and like the confidence that he has.
Starting point is 01:36:55 Is that accurate? Yeah, he's different. Yeah, he's very different. Like obviously like confidence wise, he got the ultimate belief in himself. Yeah. Like he thinks he can do anything out there. He really like, it looks like he can. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:11 You know what I mean? So he got the ultimate like confidence and belief in himself and that's like contagious. Yeah. I saw like, what was it? The other night he scored like 27 in the first, was that him? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Yeah. In like the first like quarter or like a little bit more He's like he goes unconscious out there. Yeah, dude when that happens You just like I'm getting out of the way like just get him the ball It's yeah get fine like the fun the way to get him the ball Yeah, I guess like one of those type of things like when a guy like that gets on the road Like first off like going into a game you want to try to bring that out of him You know as much as you can.
Starting point is 01:37:45 You know what I mean? So for me, it's like, how can I get him easy looks to really get him going? And then once he's going like that, man, it's like just keep feeding the high hand because he draws so much attention. It just makes the game easy for everybody. Yeah. I would get caught watching his dunks if I was on his team. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:38:00 I forget to get back on. He's trying to dunk right now. He's shooting that thing right now. Yeah. He's so much fun to watch. And yeah. He's a lot of fun. He gets locked in. It's like, can't do it.
Starting point is 01:38:09 And I've never seen, like from an athlete perspective, I've never, it's different playing against him. Cause you only play against him like, for me it was like once or twice a year. You know what I mean? But now it's like, I see it every night and I've never seen an athlete like that. Be able to like move the way he does, cover ground,
Starting point is 01:38:28 like get downhill to be able to cut and just maneuver. He's not like a little guy, he's a big dude. You know what I mean? So it's just like, for him to move at his size the way he does, it's like, it's special. And he covers a lot of ground. Yes. You have what, three or four more years of him
Starting point is 01:38:44 and then he's going to the NFL, right? Yeah, he's going to the NFL. Are you a Cowboys fan? Yes. Oh no. What's it like being a Cowboys fan? That's bad. Cause we talk about Cowboys fans.
Starting point is 01:38:56 We talk about Cowboys, what are you saying about Cowboys? Well, we talk so much. Well actually no, we had Skip Illess on. We had Skip Illess on and we also had Dak ranked as the 17th best quarterback in the NFL this year. Accurate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:06 No, we, we, we definitely, I mean, it's fun to shit on the Cowboys that they're kind of that brand. You know, it's like the Yankees, it's the Cowboys, the Lakers, like that's, yeah. Yeah. So I mean, are you ever going to win again? Cause you're not old enough to remember the Super Bowls. You know what's crazy? Like I used to go to Deion's house as a kid.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Really? Yeah, I played basketball. I was on the same basketball team as his son. No way. Basketball has put me in crazy circles. That's nuts. Yeah. I mean, we're big Deion fans.
Starting point is 01:39:38 He used to work here, so. Yeah, I used to go to his house all the time. That's crazy. Bucky on with Bucky Deon, the junior. Yeah, yeah. I used to, so like, yeah, you're right. I'm not old enough, but like my mom, she gives me hell about it.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Cause she's like, so what y'all gonna do this year? Wait, well who's she a fan of? She's not a fan of anybody. Oh, she just trolls you. I love that. I love that. I'm a fan of your mom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:03 So she used to say that all the time. I'm like, we winning it. We winning it all this year. What happened? And then it would happen. Like, what would happen is the Cowboys would be the Cowboys. And she's like, what's going on? Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:40:16 So like, she would troll me all the time. And now it's to the point where I'm out of age where I'm like, OK, this is what it's like to be a Cowboys fan. But now I've made my son a Cowboys fan. Oh, no. Yes. And he lives and dies by every game. Oh, no. And then it's cruelty. It is. It is. And then my wife was recording the other day because we were watching. I don't know who they were playing.
Starting point is 01:40:39 He was like, man, we suck. I was like, yeah, that's what it feels like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's, I have three kids and they're Bears fans and I had to teach them what tanking was last year. And that's a real humbling thing to explain to your kid that like losing is actually winning. And that's, they like repeated it back to me.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I was like, well, only when we're talking about the Bears, not like in life. That's complicated. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, no, it's good that we lost. It's like, yeah, I don't need to. I shouldn't teach this lesson. Did you ever feel like as a Cowboys fan, you should go to Duke instead of Kentucky?
Starting point is 01:41:11 Never. So you get boys Duke and Lakers? Yeah. Yeah. I did get recruited by Duke. He's your what I you were like Coach K not for me. I actually I was I probably Know I loved do I love coach K. Yeah, but it was just like I Wanted to play for cow. Yeah, I wanted to go to Kentucky. I want to play for cow You know me so it was like
Starting point is 01:41:42 In Kentucky was like the cool thing. Yeah, I. Like I grew up like I think my freshman year, that's when I knew I wanted to go to Kentucky. Yeah. Seeing John Wall and all those guys and stuff like that was like it was nothing like it. But like being around like Coach K and just like he was coaching the Olympic team and stuff like that. So it was like it just do I didn't feel like I fit like Duke culture. Yeah. Were you about to say like, I went to Kentucky, big state school, lot of people there, great student fan base.
Starting point is 01:42:13 And then I went to Duke, smaller school. I visited. Not a lot of cool people to be around from the opposite sex there. Yeah, it was, yeah. I met my wife at Kentucky. Okay Yeah, you go smart move wait, so when did you start getting recruited by like these big schools at what age? Like my freshman year, that's crazy
Starting point is 01:42:35 That's got to be kind of like a mind fuck to be like you're you know 14 years old and you've got D1 major D1 programs hitting you up. Yeah, I mean, I really, truthfully, always wanted to go to Texas, like growing up in Dallas. Yeah. Like I grew up a Texas football fan, Texas basketball senior, KD. They just like were on like the down side, like as I was getting older.
Starting point is 01:42:59 But like I played with a guy, Zach Peters, who was an amazing player, and he was going to Kansas. So like we already had like a bunch of coaches coming in and watching. And like they saw me and from there kind of just took off. Oh, so they would come see him and they'd be like, wait, who's that freshman? Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I know that you when you're recovering from an injury
Starting point is 01:43:24 a little bit ago, you spent so much time off your feet that you, when you were recovering from an injury a little bit ago, you spent so much time off your feet that you actually got better at basketball because you were studying. It made you study. You got all that screen time in because you can't walk around. Like, cause I did read that you, you were forced to work on the mental aspect of the game more because you couldn't do the physical stuff. So what, what did you improve just by not having to be practicing all the time? I mean, that's like been the great part of like what's been unfortunate the past.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Two or so years like getting hurt at the end of two years ago and then last year, you know, dislocated my shoulder, which last year I was more prepared for than I was the year before. But sometimes you just gotta slow down, man, like to catch up, to improve. You know what I mean? You get so caught in the cycle of, for me it's like season ends, I train,
Starting point is 01:44:19 you know what I mean? I don't take much time off to reflect, to really break things down. And for me, it was like, once I had my ankle surgery, for me it was like, I can't do anything. So it was like, well, how am I gonna improve? Because that's always been my biggest thing, is like, I take pride in getting better every off season.
Starting point is 01:44:42 So it was like, well, I gotta figure out a way to get better You know without physically being able to to go and work out and for me it was like I've always For like the past like five years really worked on the mental side of things So it was like I took that up a different level and then like just studying the game, you know I mean just it's like like the Kobe You know how aspect of what he's passed down to game, you know what I mean? Just it's like the Kobe, you know, how aspect of what he's passed down to me, you know, of just how detailed he was,
Starting point is 01:45:13 just how obsessive he was on like improvement. It was like, all right, well, this is taken from me. Well, how can I, you know, work away around that? And, you know, for me. That was basically what it was You know I mean, so I just broke the game down study players that I like and you know Figure out how I can add to my game and get better was it was it frustrating the the playoffs two years ago when you're you Were playing like very banged up and you had a ton of injuries and you you know you struggled the times like was it frustrating? Having the fans be like oh, why is he playing better? It's like dude, I'm I'm I have so many injuries right now
Starting point is 01:45:48 And I'm out here battling Cuz that would that would drive me nuts where I just I would just complain about my injuries so much that everyone would be Like alright stop complaining about the injuries. Yeah credit to you for not doing that for me. It's like one of those things It's like if you out there figure it out. Yeah, like type thing. So it's like It's like one of those things. It's like if you out there figure it out. Yeah, like type thing. So it's like It was more frustrating at the end of it where it was like Shit like that sucked like we didn't win and I'm like banged up like, you know, I mean so it was like But like I think for me it just built character. Yeah, like more than anything
Starting point is 01:46:25 And it was just like one of those situations where it's like, man, these things happen, but just learn, grow from it. Come back, get better, like type thing. There's no point in me feeling sorry for myself, like nobody's gonna feel sorry for you. Yeah. So it was just like, you know, get better, give yourself some grace. How many What injuries were you? Did you have that? I had? I had like a bad ankle injury. Yeah. That he Yeah, cause it was like your lift on your, yeah, your shot. I was going into games where I couldn't like,
Starting point is 01:46:49 I would be warming up like before the game and I'm just like, I can't even move. Yeah. You know what I mean? Type thing. And that's a long story, but like ended up like right after the season, they're like, man, you need to get surgery. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Like type thing. So it was just like, all right, cool. Yeah, but it was, I mean, it was clear and you were battling through it, which you should get more credit for. Yeah, I mean. And we're not Nick's fans, so we'll give you credit. Yeah, I mean, it's a different beast
Starting point is 01:47:14 when you're in New York. Yeah, no, it is. They don't care. It is, big time. If I tried to do this podcast and I had like a severe concussion during the podcast, that's all I would talk about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I'd be like, hey listen, none of the shit that I'm saying right now should count against me because I am banged up. Yeah. And I would just milk that. But I guess it's, yeah, different mentality if you're a professional athlete. Yeah, it's different.
Starting point is 01:47:36 And it's just like for me, I think it's like the Kobe spirit in me as well. Yeah. It was like, man, I've seen this dude battle through so much and just following him in his career and just knowing who he is as a human. So it was just like, man, if you can give your team anything,
Starting point is 01:47:54 go out there and give them whatever you can. Obviously, you don't have to criticize all that different type of stuff, but like I said, man, I wouldn't change anything about it. What, because we are fans and we're stupid. What do fans get wrong about the NBA? Like when they're watching it or like, they're just, it's like, that's not how it works or I think it's from my perspective, it's that I don't think anyone, I
Starting point is 01:48:17 think the average fan doesn't realize how incredible you guys all are at basketball. Even like the last guy on the bench. Yeah, it's that. And I don't think they understand how hard it is to win. OK, how would you mean? Is not an easy place like every night is like, I don't care who it is you play, like, let alone win a championship. Right. But to go out every night and win games
Starting point is 01:48:44 and play at a high level, it's not easy. You know what I mean? It's like, and I say that because I come from a perspective of, like I've been on bad teams and I've been on teams where it's not fun. Like, and you go into the arena
Starting point is 01:48:59 knowing that you're outmatched and like, you know, if you win, like, it's like the biggest relief ever. You know what I mean? Because I've never grown up in my career losing games. Yeah, got to the NBA. Right. You know what I mean? And it was a rebuilding situation. So it's like, appreciating winning, like at a high level, like, it's not easy to do. Wait, so in the NBA, when you've been on bad teams,
Starting point is 01:49:27 do you guys still in the NBA do the thing that like you do when you're growing up playing team sports and you look across to the other team and you're like, oh, we're fucked. Nah. Okay. Nah, you don't do that. You don't do that, but it's like.
Starting point is 01:49:39 You count it, you're like, all right, they got that guy, that guy, that guy, and we got, oh shit. Yeah, nah, you don't do that. At least me personally, you're a competitor at the end of the day. So I don't really do that. But I've been on teams where it's like, all right, man, we didn't win a game in two weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:57 We got to figure out how to win a game. And you know when you were growing up that every team you played did that for you. They were like, oh we're fucked Yes, I can guarantee Like get kids from Texas that were in that same area and at that time and like yeah What was it like playing Jewish friends? Like yeah, we showed up. We were fucked Private jet It is look here like shit
Starting point is 01:50:25 private jet. They just looked at you like, shit, not tonight. Yeah, you could feel it. I'm sure you could. Is there a, like, if you're in the middle of a losing streak, if you're on a team, that's not going to compete for anything at the end of the season, it's a long season and it gets dragged out. Uh, is there a, a difference between like how to be a good teammate on a shitty team versus how to be a good teammate on a shitty team versus how to be a bad teammate on a shitty team? Like can you pull together towards anything if you're on a team that's that bad? Yeah I think it's like all about environment.
Starting point is 01:50:56 Like and like coaching. Like stuff like that. You know what I mean? Because it's like you can lose games but are you learning anything? You know what I mean cuz it's like you can lose games but are you learning anything mm-hmm you know I mean it's like my biggest thing is like like now it's like I'm even winning or I'm learning you know I'm never like losing anything like if we lose a game I'm learning something you know I mean if we're winning I'm probably learning something but it's like I'm winning or
Starting point is 01:51:19 learning so it's like I've been on bad teams we were losing and we weren't learning shit you know I mean and I've been on teams where we were losing and we weren't learning shit You know, I mean and I've been on teams where we were losing and we were learning and then Eventually, we got better. You know me and then like That team like specifically I remember the team when I was with the Lakers like the last year where it was like me Lonzo Bi like Kuz like we weren't a great team like to start with but we started winning games Because like we just had a good environment Good coaching, you know, I mean every day we were coming in we were learning something Yeah, eventually we started to win games and learn how to win games. Now you're on a really good team. Yeah
Starting point is 01:51:57 I'm on a great team. Yeah, really good team. When you first got into the league Who is the one guy that you were like? Oh, man he's way harder to defend than I ever imagined, or like craftier strength or? Lamarcus Aldridge. Oh, good answer. Yeah. Not a crazy vertical for Lamarcus Aldridge, but he was.
Starting point is 01:52:16 But he knew how to get a bucket, man. Yeah. And it was like very simple, but he knew how to like get buckets, he knew how to draw fouls. He was at the time, when I came into the league, where it was like the big man, it was like real still big man. It was still too true.
Starting point is 01:52:37 Your power forward could be seven foot. So it was still like that. And you had three out, two in type thing. So it was like, it was still like that. And like you had like three out two in type thing. So it was like he will get the ball on what was it that right block maybe or whatever it was and he will go to work. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. I've always heard also Steven Adams is a crazy guy to go up against. Strong as hell. Because he's like the strongest. So just to knock your ass over. Yeah. he was he was he was different. So what about the first time you saw Wimby?
Starting point is 01:53:10 It was crazy, man. Yeah, that was that a guard. He didn't even look real. Yeah. I don't know if I want to interview him, but I just want to I want to see. You want to see him walking by? Yeah, he was he was different. He was different. Yeah. He creates all sorts of like math problems that you've never had to figure.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Yeah. It's not definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. This has been so much fun, Julius. We really appreciate you coming by. I had one last question for you. It's the rollback question, r h o b a c k.com promo code take 20% off first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take. We off first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back comm promo code take We mentioned earlier the Tibbs practices. What what's the craziest drill or practice the Tibbs would make you guys do? I'm fascinated by this stuff. We had Joe Keem in here and he what he told us what was it Kirk Heinrich
Starting point is 01:54:00 He said used to sit in the in the in his car before yeah before the practice is just like god damn it god damn it I don't want to do this or is my Mike Dunleavy maybe we got this we got this drill caught a hundred passes okay that sounds like a lot and imagine my running a play and passing the ball around like five or six times. Yeah. And then start, don't shoot. And start to play over again. Pass it another 10 times around, drive, pass, drive, pass.
Starting point is 01:54:37 And keep doing it until you get to 100 passes. So then he just, he created edging for basketball. Yeah, that sucks. That's terrible. Then you would shoot at the end. And then you get to 100 pass, the 100 pass you shoot or whatever it is. You can finally shoot? created edging for basketball. Yeah, that's, that sucks. It's a hundred pass, the hundred pass you shoot or whatever it is. You can finally shoot. Just touch, touch the ball a hundred times and then shoot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We got that.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Would you in when you shot after you shot, would you do it again? Yeah, we'll do a different place. Oh my God. That's, that was one of those drills where you like, you get like one of the younger players, you like, Hey man, get in for me. Yeah. You go run around. He's doing the hundred. You can see it. Oh, actually I did have one other question. Wait, you had the last question. I was just going to ask about like some of the work that you do in the community because it's, uh, it's pretty cool stuff that you're up to. And I feel like a lot of people would like to hear about it. Yeah, man. I think, I mean, it's really no matter where I've been. I think like for me, just the work that my wife and I do is very
Starting point is 01:55:36 important. We both come from, you know, single parent families and just underprivileged kids. So we've always been about like helping the youth out, helping single moms out, just because we've seen our moms do it and struggle to provide us with everything. So we always are trying to figure out a way to give back and doing the same thing here in Minnesota, gonna be working with some kids here,
Starting point is 01:56:00 Sketchers is helping out. So it's like whenever whenever I partner with people or brands or whatever it is, I always try to bring them in, but super important for us. That's awesome, and you got a court named after you. Yeah. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Where's the court? That was in New York. That's in New York. I worked with Nick's legend Earl Monroe. Yeah. And basically had this thing where it's like, the amount of threes I made is what we donated. Like had a bunch of people come in
Starting point is 01:56:30 and like pledge a certain amount of money for every three I made. So like I think last, this past year we donated like 1.3 million to Earl Monroe School. That's awesome. Which helps like kids and they're doing like Earl, Dan, those guys are doing an amazing job. They took these kids from the Bronx
Starting point is 01:56:51 and these kids reading levels were like three or four grades behind. And took these kids, put them in with these great teachers. Their first graduating class is coming up and their test scores are amazing now. So you know what I. So that's awesome. Like it's it's way bigger than basketball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Like for me, like being a part of New York and that community, like it was big. And I'm still helping those guys out just because they're just incredible what they're doing over there. Where did you live when you were in New York? We used to live in New York as well. I was in Scars, though. OK. For my first couple of years, because, you know, we practiced. Yeah. The city.
Starting point is 01:57:23 And then I was in Manhattan. My last two, I was in Upper West Side. Our Our office was our old offices right across from Madison Square Garden. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's that that area. It's it's good. Not COVID A couple times when I came to the office and there was a guy jerking off in front of me. On the A couple times when I came to the office and there was a guy jerking off in front of me on the street. I say Minnesota is a lot more convenient. Yeah, you get in a car. That's the thing. I do miss parts of New York and it is nice not having to get a car.
Starting point is 01:57:53 But then when you do get in a car it's like, oh this is kind of nice. Just put on music or podcasts. Just drive. It's gotta be nice getting out to the Midwest. I love it. Stretch your legs a little bit. Alright, well Julius, thanks so much man. Anytime you're in the city, we'd love to have you back on. This was so much fun. I appreciate you guys. Thank you. Yeah, sir. Julius Randall was brought to you by Hey Dude. Hey, dude, have you ever tried Hey Dude? Did you know that they make boots too?
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Starting point is 02:00:41 This is a paid advertisement. Okay, Hank, let's wrap up. Guys on chicks. My husband and I have been married for a year and a half and he is still weird about me seeing his dick when it's not hard. What? Whenever he's getting out of the shower or something, he always hides it and says we aren't that close,
Starting point is 02:00:55 but his dick is definitely not small, so I don't get it. Is this typical guy behavior or is he a psychopath? Psychopath, not a psychopath, but at this point, yeah, you should be well beyond that there now a lot of women Don't realize that the size of a man's dick can fluctuate wildly depending on anything from the temperature of the room to what pants They're wearing what they had to eat that day were they running how are they scared at the moment? That's also a lie He definitely has a small dick. Yeah, there's no You had a big dick you're you don't give a shit. Yeah, I think you know you'd be flushed. Yeah everywhere
Starting point is 02:01:27 He's probably grow or not sure. Yeah, and Yeah at any given time walking around probably like an 80% difference in how big your penis can appear He just wants he's still putting on like the happy face for you He's not afraid to show you his real self and that's the problem. My urologist was a stool yesterday Did you show it? No so I went to the urologist for my kidney stones. Very nice very nice doctor walked in and he was just like hey you seem familiar maybe an on big online presence and I was like sick nice. Let's see that shlong. Yeah so we talked about my kidney stones. He took the kidney stone
Starting point is 02:02:05 he's gonna do a test and all this stuff looked at some CT scans, whatever and I was like, are you gonna look at my dick and he's like no I don't have to and then I was just like why I shaved for you and that got awkward Yeah And that got awkward. Do you want to? Yeah. And then he said after he's like, just so you know, like I, I follow you on Instagram, but I, that I had been following you for a while. It wasn't, it didn't just happen. I was like, I appreciate that. But yeah, that means depending on how my kidney stones go, that guy will look at my dick
Starting point is 02:02:40 eventually. So I had two urologists in New York when I was going through the same thing with kidney stones, one of which was a an AWL the show did not show him my dick. The other guy was not, but you feel like you have to make small talk when the doctor is like looking at your dick on moving your dick around and feeling things. And so he was like, so uh, so Sollenberger, is that the is that the name of the guy that landed that plane and the only thing I could think to say because we were still doing that joke was yeah you know they they named a drink after that guy and the guy the guy goes oh yeah and then I
Starting point is 02:03:17 just couldn't bring myself to do it I just I choked big time it's a big yeah it's a big time moment I uh what's the punchline? You know the punchline. Yeah, gray goose with a splash of water Good next all right speaking. I guess we'll go to this one speaking of dicks. Okay. There's a picture that's involved There's a couple pictures. Oh, hey PMT I've been on three dates with this guy and he's in Michigan for one month and he sent me this update catching fish with his grandpa. Is this raging 14 inch boner? Or does this man just love fish? Also, can I handle this in the future? What would you do? Thanks.
Starting point is 02:03:55 So I'm gonna send the picture. Okay. And then I'm gonna send- Nope, I gotta pull it up on the screen. Yeah, that guy's got a hog. He's John Ham. Holy shit! Yeah, good for that guy. Ha ha ha! Good for him!
Starting point is 02:04:06 He should be holding the fish up next to his dick to show how big the fish is. What if he just has stuff in his pockets and she's expecting the John Ham? Now, so I'm looking at the angle right now. There could be something in that right pocket that gravity is pulling down. It could be a golf ball? Or just his phone. What do we have? Any other picture?
Starting point is 02:04:23 Uh, just the group text from this girl So her friends. Oh, is that it? Okay? Alright good. It is a girl. Okay, so we have confirmation because obviously there's a lot of people who think the guys on chicks There's a lot of men that write in that would be an all-time wrinkle if this dude AWO basically concocted a story for us to look at his penis. Mm-hmm. No, so it's a group text from this girl It's a girl sending the picture to her friends and then one of her friends goes is that his dick? I just choked do girls telling that a lot. Yeah, I think you got it I mean he's also the fish is a nice fish
Starting point is 02:04:55 It's a really nice fish and he's not doing the cheating thing where he's putting the fish too close to the camera to make it Look bigger than it is that and is there's a good possibility this guy sent you that picture Because there was something in his pocket weighing it down that made it look like he had a big dick And he wanted to send it to you so that you get excited I don't know dude the guys were in the croquis the the the sunglass things he's kind of sportsmen I think that's a man's man. I think that's a man's man. You might be yeah might just be dealing with the guy with a hog We're gonna need this person to follow up Yeah
Starting point is 02:05:27 Yeah, after they go on the date to see if it's actually that and the guy with the big dick in the fish if you want To chime in with your size Soft and hard we'll take that mm-hmm listen. She just needs to be like Sam Pittman embrace the hog Yeah, all right last one, and this is also from a girl who got tricked by her boyfriend Hi Alex, it's Mariah. I got your number from Nolan. He told me you won tickets to the Patriots game this Sunday OBS I want him to go and have fun, but please make sure he behaves himself. LOL Last time you guys went to a game. He didn't come home until the next morning I'm working Sunday night and need him to be home to watch our daughter.
Starting point is 02:06:06 He's a 32 year old child. I can't believe I even need to send this, but please make sure he doesn't get into trouble this time." And then followed up and said, oh, okay. I don't know who this is, but my husband's sitting next to me dying laughing. Like I said, I married a child. Wait, what is this? A little bit confused.
Starting point is 02:06:21 I'm very lost. This guy told his girlfriend that he won tickets to the Patriots game with Apparently a person that he had previously gone to a game with and think it won't till the next day. Yeah, and then she said I want to text them and Like Do you have another she guys on shit? Is a mess means I thought it's funny. I want I want to understand this So she husband had her text this number. Yeah, that was it. We the husband texted the guys on chicks
Starting point is 02:06:54 No, the husband had his wife text the guys on chicks. Yeah, I like this dude For the record. No, it was a mess my bad but this dude rocks the fact that you the wife has to actually if this story is true and the wife has to be like Hey, he has to look after our fucking daughter in the morning That's awesome. This guy is like he just got listen It's always When you get older in life Those like moments of like, oh, the
Starting point is 02:07:27 night got away from me. I just didn't come home. Those don't happen anymore. But if you know someone who that could happen to that guy rocks and it's always there's always one friend that you have to be on the lookout. Yeah. Everybody's got that one friend and getting to spend one night. It's like a little so many vacation that he gets like I one night alone with his most unruly friend I've had moments in my life where I've been out with friends. It's like oh night got away from us We didn't go to sleep We just went to the casino till 7 a.m. Or we stayed the part those are the best nights ever and
Starting point is 02:07:57 I wish I could still do those I haven't done one in forever this guy rocks Credit to him his wife wrote a confusing guys on chicks but I love this fucking guy he's the man pug any presidential orders you got for us I still got a link up with Blake and cook up some policies okay TBD on that okay happy birthday pug by the way I birthday party birthday pig 3o 1111 well that would be, what, 210? Oh, wow, you're getting up there. Your dog years?
Starting point is 02:08:27 Yeah, we're getting up in the years. Love that. Yeah, thank you. Also, I received a lot of feedback from Monday's show, especially the end of the show, accusing me of not saying love you guys to the listeners. Many people felt unloved. I did say I love you guys.
Starting point is 02:08:44 It seemed like this was max During you know he's trying to eat week He's trying to psych me out for a week and take me off my game because the Eagles commanders game on Thursday Wouldn't be surprised if he does some monkey business and takes it out the end of their show, too But I did say I love you guys. It was visible on the YouTube We'll say Pug when you fuck if you fuck for like a minute, are you like, yeah actually that was seven.
Starting point is 02:09:10 Dog ears. Yes. Okay, nice. It would rock. Credit to you, hug. If when Pug became a dad he had like six kids at once. Yeah, the litter. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:19 The litter. The litter of Pugs going around would be so great. Pug, if you have anything if you have six Toplet six top six top six top six top lit The odds are like one in a billion But if you do I want you here and now to say that we're allowed to make one of those weird creepy reality shows about them Okay allowed to make one of those weird creepy reality shows about him. Okay. Okay. If it's
Starting point is 02:09:46 seven, no. If it's five, no, six has to lay exactly on that would be crazy. That would be crazy. But guess what we would be like we would the reality show would pay for your kids life. Six of them. The puglets. Those shows that? Octomom? Octomom, yeah. And John and K Plus 8, that was, those were... Nothing is a bigger guarantee of your life getting ruined than doing other shows. Yes. The Duggars? The Duggars.
Starting point is 02:10:16 Numbers? 40. 11. 5. 99. 21. 64. 599.21 64 79 Love you guys So So So So So Thanks for watching!

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