Pardon My Take - MNF & Damar Hamlin, NFL With Pete Prisco, 1 Question With Max Duggan & The 2022 Bonk List

Episode Date: January 4, 2023

We start the show a little different with PFT and Big Cat talking about Monday Night Football and the Scary Damar Hamlin situation (00:00:00-00:22:21). We then move back to the studio to do hot seat/c...ool throne (00:22:21-00:55:21). Pete Prisco joins the show to talk Week 18 and playoffs as well as what happened to Russell Wilson and how Prisco would make a great Special Teams coach (00:55:21-01:38:56). 1 question with TCU QB Max Duggan (01:38:56-01:48:40). We finish with Hanks 2022 Bonk list for the entire show (01:48:40-02:06:41).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we're going to talk about Monday Night Football and what happened in Cincinnati on Monday Night with Damar Hamlin. We're breaking up the show a little bit. So the first 10 minutes is just going to be me and PFT talking about what transpired. And we'll go back into the studio and try to give people a normal show.
Starting point is 00:00:33 We thought this was the best way to do it. We'll do Hot Seat Cool Throne. We have Pete Prisco on. We have Max Duggan and Hank as well to do the 2022 bonk list. So we're trying to break it up and navigate it as best as possible. Today's episode is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. When you're juggling work, family, and life in general, things can feel chaotic. That's why Coors Light helps you find moments to unwind all year long.
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Starting point is 00:02:41 I think everyone saw what transpired. We thought the best way to do this show was to break it up. So the first 10, 15 minutes will be just me and PFT talking about it. And then we will go back into the studio with everyone else. And before we get into Damar, I understand some people don't want to laugh right now. It's a very serious thing. We know what our role is and to give people a little brevity in their life. Life is not easy.
Starting point is 00:03:11 So we thought this was the best way that we could both talk about a serious thing, but also give everyone something to smile about. So yeah, Monday Night was pretty horrific. As we're taping this, it's 9.30 on Tuesday. We tried to wait the majority of the day to hopefully get a good update. The last update we've seen is Damar Hamlin is in critical condition still, kind of maybe doing better from some of the reports we've seen. It's obviously like, we're not going to get an answer anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:03:49 But yeah, it was pretty shocking and tragic to watch. And we love football. We know that I think the thing that PFT, you and I, we're huge football fans. We love football. And we have to admit that our livelihood in this show, a lot of it is based on football and what the sport provides for us. So to see that, we're not football players, but we care about a lot of guys in the NFL and the league is important to us.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So to see someone collapse and need CPR on the field, it shook me. It shook me bad. It was scary. It was really, really frightening watching that entire scene play out. And the look on, I saw Josh Allen's face on the sideline digs his face. The players knew almost instantaneously that this was some pretty serious going on. And the sports world kind of came to a stop. Like nothing else really mattered at that time than making sure he was OK.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Because as sick as it is, like as NFL fans, we do love the NFL on like a weekly basis. We'll see a player, you know, they break a leg, they tear a ligament and they, you know, they get cart off the field and it's sad and you feel for them and you think about them. But the show goes on in that moment. And I think what a lot of people saw last night is like, there's a very clear line where it's a cliche to say that things are bigger than sports. This was a moment where sports literally did not matter. It's like there was a person on the field that was at risk of dying.
Starting point is 00:05:21 And according to some reports, may have actually died on the field that they that they brought back. Now, there's a lot of negative stuff that's going on right now. Like people are jumping over like skip for some tweets that he had. Bart Scott said some stuff. I don't really want to get into any of that because it doesn't really help anything. I think that there are some things that we can put a little bit of light on because those other the heavy implications, those are self-explanatory. But the the medical staff at the game did such a good job.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Like it's it's unreal if there are two places that I would want to get severely injured. One would be in an emergency room, like in the waiting room. And then the second would be like on the field at NFL game, because within like 30 seconds, they have world class doctors on the field that were they were giving CPR almost instantly to them. And that might have been the difference. We don't know what's going to happen, obviously. But that might have been the difference between life and death. It's it really is like a credit to modern science and the doctors,
Starting point is 00:06:17 like to to be able to be there right away and and the tools that we have. And to say something about the the negative stuff, I agree with you. I think being on the internet for as long as we've been on the internet, you start to realize a trend that when something tragic happens, people can't just feel grief, they have to feel anger. So it quickly just devolves from this is a terrible thing that happened. And we should all feel sad and and and, you know, kind of put it into perspective right to who said something dumb, let's jump down their throat.
Starting point is 00:06:53 And it we're not going to like litigate their everyone's tweets. But I just I've noticed that on the internet that people just can't comprehend the the really tragic thing that happened. So they're like, well, what else can I do? I can be really angry online and go after people and it doesn't really help anyone. I, you know, Ryan Clark said it best and the whole scene was so crazy to watch because it's it's, you know, Booger and Schefter and Susie Colbert were put in an impossible spot to basically carry a live broadcast.
Starting point is 00:07:23 You saw Booger was very shaken up and he did an outstanding job. Then they went to Scott Van Pelt and Ryan Clark and Ryan Clark said it best. He was just like, this is the dark side of the NFL that we don't, you know, as players don't we try not to think about it, that this does exist. Like tragic injuries and and really life altering things. You know, Ryan, she's here on that same field can happen. And you try to like not not think about it. And it's a lot of young guys chasing their dream.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And he was saying like, I love football more than anything besides my my kids. And so it's not like a football is at fault. It's that this is just really, really sad. And it hopefully takes a turn for the better because, you know, tomorrow Hamlin loved football and he was chasing his dream. And to have that happen in a freak accident, it's just you just really, really hope that everything turns out. And you said it exactly right.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Like the the bill's players like the players always know before. And you knew right away that it was something different when you saw their faces and you saw some of them crying and you saw like even that the five minute warm-up, which we can talk about, but like Josh was just looking out blank face out on the field. And you're like, this is not they can't play this game. They can't play this game. Yeah. And I know that people, I mean, in the moment, we're all sitting on our couch and we see that you can't play the game.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I do think there's two things that happening. NFL clearly obviously doesn't really care. Like they've never prioritized player safety. They say they do, but they don't. But I do think that they prioritize player safety insofar as to the point where it starts to cost them money. Right, right. And I think the five minute warning thing that every warm-up thing
Starting point is 00:09:07 that everyone is really like hung up on, I thinking about it today, like I don't I don't know if it came from the refs. I don't know. I think what happened in a truly human moment is we've seen really bad things happen on a football field. Ryan Chase, you're being like, you know, an example, an ambulance takes someone away and then you go on as normal. And so I think a lot of it was almost like reflex, like this is what we do.
Starting point is 00:09:34 You go on the ambulance and then we start the game back up. And then, you know, Sean McDermott and Zach Taylor credit to them and whichever players spoke up being like, this is not normal. We should not play this. And they made the right decision in the end. So I think that if it took a little too long, you can you can argue that. But at the end of the day, they didn't play the game and it's probably credit to the players and the coaches, not the league.
Starting point is 00:09:56 But it's still I'm happy that they were able to get to that conclusion because I think it would have been very wrong to continue that game. Yeah, they made the right decision. And according to all the reporting that I've seen and we saw it when it was happening live, I think we all reacted to it in the moment where they make the announcement. Joe Buck said, I think four times on the broadcast that they were being told the game would be restarted in five minutes.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Troy Vincent from the NFL says that that was never his idea, which could be true. That could be very true. The Troy Vincent and Roger Goodell did not make a call on this and that it was the officials and the game managers on site. That kind of like you said, went along with what the traditional playbook is for something like this, which is OK, give the teams five minutes to warm up. And we saw Joe Burrow start to throw passes. We saw some of the guys moving around on the sidelines
Starting point is 00:10:43 as if they were going to get back in that game. And in that moment, I think everybody with with a sense of what just happened understood that you can't play this game. One, it's it's bigger than a game because there's a man that died on the field. That's that's literally what we all saw happen to expect his teammates and everybody else to go out and to try to play a football game after that is foolish. And there is a player safety element involved
Starting point is 00:11:07 where those guys their heads not going to be in the game when they go out there. And there's going to be a differing level of of competitiveness in that game, depending on play to play and who's in it, who's not focused. And that's dangerous for everybody involved. And then there's just the simple fact that like you should, based on what these players have seen and what they're going through mentally, do not make them go back and do their jobs. Imagine if you're if you're at work and like a co-worker passes out
Starting point is 00:11:32 and you have to shock him back and give him CPR, like you're not in any position to go back and focus on your job later on that day. But so what we saw was was the NFL. They struggled initially. You're right. Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott, they all the credit to them for making the logical decision and for saying, hey, this is not something that we've normally seen stopping the game
Starting point is 00:11:54 from restarting it when it looked like it was going to. Then it sounds like the NFL PA got in touch with the teams and they worked their way with the NFL and discussed the fact that like this is this is not going to happen. So I'm not going to say I'm not going to point fingers at Roger Godell and say you're the bad guy for trying to restart this game. It might not have been his call, but it does speak just to like the natural flow of things in the NFL is
Starting point is 00:12:16 when a player gets seriously hurt, even up to the point of them needing CPR on the field. The status quo is, OK, we're going to get this started in five minutes. That's what the on site game officials tried to do. And I think you need to like take a step back and and and realize that it's not always it's not that serious. Right. And it's it's also a great reminder in a terrible situation that it had to have, you know, take this to remind everyone that these guys are all humans and, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:49 like hearing about Damar Hamlin's mom coming down from the stands and trying to get to the ambulance, they're, you know, their relationship they have with each other as teammates, their families that are watching them and watching a game and saying, you know, the next hit could be a catastrophic hit. And I don't I don't think there there's a school of thinking like, well, it's football, they signed up for it. Yeah, OK, we all know the dangers of football.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But there's some really bad shit that can happen in football, and it's OK to take a step back and be like, let's let's let's make sure everyone's OK here, both like you're saying, the mental health and Damar Hamlin in the hospital in critical condition right now. I don't think anyone's making the argument that, you know, football is over. It's just it needed the necessary step back and the game to stop and and be canceled to realize like this is something that is a one in I don't know, a million thing that happened that needs to be addressed
Starting point is 00:13:49 accordingly, and it can't just be the regular show goes on because you're right. Like the the the the normal reaction of the NFL is always like the show must go on. I mean, we played an entire season in covid with games on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Like we know that that's what the NFL that's their protocol. They go the show must go on. But this is one of those situations where I'm happy the show didn't go on and I'm happy that, you know, the Bill's players were able to to stop
Starting point is 00:14:19 playing some able to see, you know, go to the hospital. I know Stefan Diggs went to the hospital. They were able to get home to their families because at the end of the day, like we're look, we're not everyone knows this show. We try not to be serious ever, but this is a situation where it is like a step back situation and say, like, OK, these guys are humans and we need to we need to reassess kind of how we look at the whole thing and and and give it its like time to to heal.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, I I think first I just want to clarify once it's not that serious. I'm obviously not talking about the injury. I'm talking about this sport of football compared to the guy that is injured. I want to make that clear. But so I think a lot of people found themselves in a state of I guess they didn't they didn't have a direction to channel in any of their energy right after it happened, because we're so used to getting a thumbs up from a player
Starting point is 00:15:14 that's being like put into an even when they're clearly not doing well. These, you know, we see like movement. We're used to hearing the announcer say like he has movement in his extremities. I think everybody's waiting for an update from a reporter saying he's regained consciousness and like he's got a message for his team and for the fans. We were we were all waiting for that. We were waiting for the picture like we got from Christian Erickson. When he passed out or he actually had heart cardiac arrest as well
Starting point is 00:15:43 at the soccer game two years ago, where, you know, he puts a picture up from the hospital. We were all waiting for that. And when we didn't get any acknowledgement that like things were improving, we were just we were we started to lash out and we did see a little bit that online like looking for the bad guy. OK, I can get mad at Skip Bayless. And that will make me feel better in this situation. But the reality is I think everybody was kind of like dealing, wrestling with their own a little bit of grief and also just a little bit
Starting point is 00:16:09 of of shock and trying to process what they just saw. Yeah. And it's I don't blame people who get their initial reaction is let's get angry and witch hunt on the Internet, because it's just no one knows how to deal with this. No one knows how to deal with the situation they've never seen before. So I don't I don't think it's wrong. I think a lot of people probably woke up today being like, you know, maybe trying to witch hunt the the three or four bad tweets was not the correct way to use my energy. Maybe they didn't.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I don't really care. It's just the whole thing is sad. And I really, really hope we get a good update soon. I know that, you know, I would assume I don't know what the NFL is going to do in terms of scheduling. It's not really relevant right now. But obviously, that's a question a lot of people are asking. I'm sure it will happen in due time in the next day or two. The only thing I other thing I wanted to say was
Starting point is 00:17:01 just like DeMar Hamlin, the guy, because it, you know, it came out, you know, his charitable, you know, giving with the with the toy drive that has now reached, I think, five and a half million dollars. And all the stories about who he is and like how he's he's really a role model to kids in Pittsburgh, he grew up in Pennsylvania, he went to pit. He's a hero to a lot of these kids. He seemed like, you know, the consummate, just professional teammate, friend, you know, son, brother, all these things.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And and it seems like, you know, one of those things where instead of finding that anger online for who made a bad tweet, it should probably be focused more on like what an incredible human being DeMar Hamlin is and trying to help however that is. And and you said it, I mean, before PFT, but like the I think what was his uncle's quote that that was really like profound? I can look it up exactly here. And I think let me let me do that because I don't want to get it wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It was it was a really look it up. And it's touching. OK. He said he said this is this is DeMar Hamlin's uncle, Dorian Glenn. He said a lot of people don't get to see how loved they are while they're alive. So for him to have a situation where he could have been taken away and he has a chance to come back and see all that love that he got. And yeah, I mean, it's it's true. Like, you know, we say give people their flowers
Starting point is 00:18:23 and most people don't get to ever see like all the lives that they've impacted and how much people truly care about them. But the truth is people everybody out there has a lot of people that care about them. And hopefully and I hope I'm not reading too far into this, but it sounds like there's a little bit of progress being made as far as his health goes. And hopefully he'll be able to wake up and and what a what an awesome moment that would be for him to get to see all the love that's been shown to him from strangers, friends, you know, Bill's Mafia is obviously stepped up big time.
Starting point is 00:19:00 The organization, his teammates, like that that would be an incredible moment for him. So I really, you know, amongst other reasons, I really hope that he gets to experience that. Yeah. And I hope he experiences it, too, because it's just the you know, we love football. We really, really love football. And I think a lot of people love football and it's been cool to see the outpouring of love for Damar Hamlin, both in Buffalo, nationwide, Cincinnati. Like the fans were I think were great on Monday Night Football.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You know, some of the stories about making sure that his mom was able to get down to the field as quickly as possible, even though she wasn't credentialed like all these things. So I don't know. It's just that that's the positive side of of seeing everyone kind of come together and use positive energy and and hope that, you know, everything turns out OK. That's, you know, that those are the moments that I look for to be like, yeah, this is this is what's good in life. You know, it's not someone's bad tweet.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It's it's rejoicing in a great young man who hopefully can come out of this. Yeah. Ninety nine percent of people I actually think are awesome and wonderful and and and worth celebrating. There's one person in particular I wanted to talk about, because I did get a couple of DMS and I got a couple of texts from some friends who happened to be at this game as well. I don't know who this lady was. She was part of the medical staff that was there.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And the second he fell to the ground and he started to being attended to on the field, she recognized the severity of the situation, sprinted off, helped get the defibrillator onto the field. Motion for the ambulance was kind of calling some shots and started to grab the players from each team and pulled them into place to have them stand around tomorrow to give him a little bit of privacy in that moment when they started to do CPR on him, which is something that would have like that that would have it would have been traumatizing to everybody involved.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And also he deserves it. He deserves to have the dignity of having privacy in a situation like that. And I don't know who she was. These people I got two DMS and two texts from people that were there that just wanted to share that story. So I thought it was worth sharing on this show in case anybody knows who she was. Just absolutely great job by the medical staff to be able to like spring into action that quickly. Yeah. And and last thing, and we're going to kick it to ourselves back in studio.
Starting point is 00:21:22 We mentioned it with Pete Prisco. But knowing how to do CPR is is pretty easy to to take like an hour course. I mentioned it with Pete, but like I did do a course when I had, you know, my son and we had to do child CPR lesson and stuff like that. Like you never know. You never know when it could help someone and there's heroes everywhere. So, you know, if this is if it is a moment that spurs a lot of people to go out and get certified in CPR, like think about all the good that will happen from that.
Starting point is 00:21:52 But at the end of the day, we we know what type of podcast we are. We know that we're here to entertain people and not be super serious. We thought, obviously, this situation needed a little bit of a different tone to start the show. The rest of the show will be back in studio with everyone back to our normal programming, because we know that people want to laugh and people want to think about something else. And maybe it's not even thinking about this, but thinking about something else
Starting point is 00:22:18 that's going on in their life that's tough right now. So we know we know our role in the universe in that sense. So with that, let's let's kick it to ourselves back in studio. We got Pete Prisco, Max Duggan and the twenty twenty two bonkeless and hot seat cool throne. OK, we're back in studio. And this show is brought to you by our friends at part of my cheesesteak. It's a delivery and pickup only restaurant brand, bringing you craveable cheesesteaks and loaded fries.
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Starting point is 00:23:48 I've been thinking about for a while and I want to talk with you guys about this. Non-cash tips. Yeah. Every single food service. I feel like I used to have an understanding of the unwritten rules of tipping. I'm not supposed to tip when you're not supposed to tip. But in today's day and age with technology, it seems like every single place you put a card, they ask for a tip and it has thrown off my understanding of what is a tip and what's not a tip.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And I also am woke about, I feel like if I'm tipping, like if I go to pick up food, I want to go pick up my lunch today, it asks for tip. I don't think that that, if I give, you know, 20%, $2, $5, I don't think that's going to the person who made my food. Right, OK, so I've got it. And I just don't, I just want to get this out there because I don't want to be a Scrooge, but sometimes I do zero and then I feel cheap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But in my heart, I'm like, this is correct. Yeah, it's definitely something that we're seeing more and more of, especially at places where like you, essentially it's transactional. You pay money and then you get your thing and leave. I have a very simple system for handling this. My system is if there's somebody next to me in line that can see if I'm leaving a tip or not, I leave a tip. And if there's not, I usually don't. And then the report came out that CBS.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It's 100% just to make, because I'd feel bad if the person behind me is like, oh shit, PFT's cheap. Did you see what happened with CBS? No. They essentially, you know, they ask you sometimes to round up and it's a donation. Yeah, yeah. They pledged like $15 million to the whatever the corporation or the charity was. They pledged that. They used other people's money to fulfill that $15 million, which is fraud.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah. So that's in my head now too, where it's like, now I'm like, I don't even think, again, it's where I don't think if it's money going to the workers, that's one thing. I don't feel like it is. I just do 15% every time, just so that like the transaction is nice, clean. We did this because it's usually. But then are you cheap? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:25:47 No, I don't think. No, 15% on like takeout. I don't. This is where I get thrown off. What are you talking about? Yes, I'm talking about takeout. You're talking about like walking into five guys ordering a burger. 15%.
Starting point is 00:25:58 That's what I do. Like am I eating there? I'm just taking it and going away. Yeah. But put five years ago, would you have tipped anything? Yeah. Honestly, like if they give you an option and it's not at like a CVS. If it's a CVS or like a grocery store where they do those, those donation things.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I'm just convinced that the money doesn't actually go there or like Hank saying that it's actually going to go there from CVS. They're using us to refill what they're pledging. So my rule of thought, I honestly just go like 20%. Just saying the only reason this has become a conversation is because that new square iPad type devices that turns around. It actually became a TikTok trend, but it's just because certain, especially takeout devices use that type of payment system that has that tip option is why this all
Starting point is 00:26:45 been discussed. I don't think you're supposed to tip if you like pick up food. I agree. If I pick up food, I do 15%. If I'm sitting down, it's 20% or more. Yeah. I'm a good tipper. I consider myself a good tipper, but I've been questioning myself when I go.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I literally walk in, pick up the food and then they ask me to tip. I'm like, I don't think about it this way. This is the way you got to think about all these things is the people working are probably not making a ton of money. And it's like, if it's a $15 meal and you're tipping 15%, that's like a couple bucks. What does that mean to you? Right. It's probably, if enough people do it, it means a lot to them.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. If they get the money. If they get the money. If it's takeout, there's usually somebody that's responsible for like putting the entire meal together, packaging it up in the styrofoam and stuff. So it's not, you are getting service. It's just not coming to your table. It's just getting packaged up and put into a bag.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I do delivery 20%, 25%. I usually, if it's the same place that I ordered from a lot, I go all the way to the right and I tip the most amount because I know that I'm probably going to see that person again. Yeah. Wait, but real quick, does that mean you guys tip at Chipotle? I can be 15%. Chipotle. I can be bullied into a tip at Chipotle.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. Chipotle is exactly what I'm talking about. That's like going to get a coffee, 15%. Chipotle, 15%. Basically, if somebody asked me for money, I feel bad not giving them money. I just hit the button. We're on the same page, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:06 It's like a $75 Ken episode. It's a little different. That's true. I'll give you one of my slurp juices. Yeah, I'm down to $5K. Yeah. Which, although that does cue into my cool throne. I have a couple.
Starting point is 00:28:18 The first one was insane NBA stat lines. Donovan Mitchell, 71 points last night. Luca had that crazy 60 point triple double a week ago, a week and a half ago. Yeah. So that's insane NBA stat lines are back. My other cool throne is actually me again. Darts day. Everyone remembers darts day back in June.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Sure. The World Darts Federation or whatever it's called came to Madison Square Garden. Yeah. Thanks for the invite. A bunch of us went. It was awesome. Had a great time. I would have had a great time.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I placed a bet. What I thought was a bet on that night's event. Oh. I put in two people. Van Gerwin, who's the goat. And then Michael Smith, who's also pretty good, but he was a much bigger underdog. Van Gerwin won the event. And I was like, yes, cash it, like plus a thousand or something.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It's just never cash. It's been in my bet slip for the entire year. And it said the date that the finals were was January 1st. So I'm looking January 1st. Like finally, like I'm trying to track like who's winning the championship. Like I'm trying to follow along what's going on. Cause like at no point was I ever sure when this was ending. It didn't end January 1st.
Starting point is 00:29:23 It ended today. But the finals going on right now, Michael Van Gerwin and Michael Smith. Wow. So guaranteed winner and right before when it started today, right there. I'm going to look at the clip after I get to watch it. It was literally right before we started recording. Van Gerwin was one dart away from getting a nine darter. He missed on the 12.
Starting point is 00:29:43 So eight out of nine, Michael Smith comes right after him. Nine darter. Wow. Some are calling it the greatest hand of darts ever. I am. I'm calling it the greatest hand. Isn't it ending? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I've done that before. I think in like 2012, I want to say when there was World Cup or was it 2010 World Cup? I bet on Cricut World Cup and I had to wait like five months. Yeah. And I was like sitting there like what the fuck. It was June and I've been looking every time I go into like, you know, it'd be NFL Sunday be looking at my bets and it's like, well, yeah, maybe this Van Gerwin will hit plus 1200. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:18 You pretty much already spent that money probably. Yeah. Like how are you so good at betting darts? I just, I just handicapped it well. Yeah. I handicapped that event well and then apparently they won the championship. I don't know. Although it again, it said it ended January 1st.
Starting point is 00:30:34 It's January 3rd right now. So I'm not even 100% positive that this is the end, but it like has to be. Is it like actually a Cricut match where it's like four days long and you have to wait this long? I really hope. I'll fall back on Friday. Okay. All right. Who's your goat?
Starting point is 00:30:51 Van Gerwin. Yeah. I have more money, so. You have to. Hungry dog. I'm kind of rude for him. That always works out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Fuck you. My hot seat is women. Oh. Women are on the hot seat because a study came out where they asked men and women of various ages, what the chances would be that they could land an airplane, land an airliner if the pilot became incapacitated and they had to take over the cockpit with help from air traffic controllers so they could get on the radio. And less than 50% of women said that they could land an airliner, while 46% of men said
Starting point is 00:31:30 that they could. So men are at 46% and only one in five women say that they could land an airliner if they were to take over it. Oh no. Have a little faith in yourself. Have confidence in yourself. These things are basically like it's. You just press the land button.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You press autopilot and you talk to the people in the tower and then you land the fucking plane. And if you don't land it, you just take it back up and come back around. Yeah, it's in the air. You just keep flying it. So there's, I mean. Throttle down. There's lift, drag and the other two, which are line.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Anyways, I could land a fucking plane. It's not that hard. And so if anybody out there, I would actually, if Southwest Airlines did give me a jet and they let me try this, I would be able to land this plane. What do you want the jet out there? Yeah. What do you want to Pepsi challenge recently? What do you think this poll would be for parallel parking?
Starting point is 00:32:22 What's up, Billy? If you're getting the first part, landing gear, landing gear, you got to know that's the important one. Billy, you fucking moron. That's the last thing that you do. No, you got to know, you know, on final approach, you put the flaps down, then you put the gear down. No, then you put the wheels down.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Sounds like you don't know how to land a plane. I don't know. Billy might be a woman. Billy might be a woman. I put the wheels down first. Okay. All right. You don't know ball.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Yeah. I'm a wheels down guy. No, whatever. I could land a plane is what I'm getting at, and I think everybody in the studio should be able to land a plane. What do you call a one string? What do you mean? What's that thing?
Starting point is 00:32:56 When they land them on carriers? Oh, third cable. I'll hit the third cable. Yeah. No, I wouldn't. Realistically, I don't think I would be able to land a plane on an aircraft carrier. First try. Not first try, but I do think like all joking aside, if I got behind the wheel or the stick
Starting point is 00:33:12 of a 737 and I was able to talk to air traffic control, I honestly do believe that I would be able to land a plane. I agree. About 747. These things are all fly by wire. 747 I've never been in the cockpit of one of those, so I'm not sure. Easy. Easier.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Airbus probably. Just give me an iPad. Auto. Auto. Like you just go right down. Yeah. It's pretty simple stuff. It's not rocket science.
Starting point is 00:33:34 It's air science. When you guys were little kids, you know how they would they make you turn off your phones and stuff. I thought that it was because I didn't have a phone, but I had a Game Boy. I thought it was because if I kept it on, I would be able to land a plane with my Game Boy. You could. That was just an all time.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We should do a whole dumb shit we thought of. I think we did a Mount Rushmore of it. I used to think my balls were Play-Doh when I was a little kid. I thought I was an elf when I was a child. Still? No. I thought. It's because I had pointy ears.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Why aren't I as tall as everyone else? Shut the fuck up. I must have been a creature. I stopped growing in eighth grade. I'm sorry. Yeah. 5'8". That's actually a pretty normal sized thing.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Which brings me. I have dropped you off at your house before. It was a big tree. No. It's a giant shoe. The bottom line is I could land an airplane and I'd like women out there to have more confidence in themselves. So some people are like, oh, this just speaks to the irrational confidence of men.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I think that women are just too humble. Yeah. You could do it ladies. You could land a plane. It's not that difficult. Absolutely. Okay. Your cool throne?
Starting point is 00:34:45 My cool throne is short kinks like myself because elves, because there was a post that came out in the New York Times. It was an article about why people need to start appreciating short kinks more. And why being short is better for the future. So this author, Mara Altman wrote an essay saying that not only do shorter people tend to live longer, but they're also crucial in conserving food and resources on her dying planet. The short are also inherent conservationists, which is more crucial than ever in this world
Starting point is 00:35:19 of 8 billion. So basically, if we were 10% shorter, we would save 87 millions of tons of food per year, not to mention trillions of gallons of water, quadrillions of BTUs of energy, and millions of tons of trash. So it's truly the age of the short kinks. Bill Gates wrote it. It sounds like we're doing eugenics, but for tall people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I don't think that any 5'9 person in power would ever try to eliminate people that he saw as undesirable, Billy. That's just not how we operate. So short kinks are back. Short kinks are back. And I am a self-hating short king at times because I do fully acknowledge the fact that if you're under 5'9, you should not be in charge of a military. I think time and time again.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Or a company. We've learned that lesson that a country should not be run by a 5'3 man. You shouldn't get to drive the car. You shouldn't get to be in company. What about planes? Yeah, they probably should fly planes. That's for bosses, 6 and above. So anyways, all you tall people out there that think that you're so great just because
Starting point is 00:36:22 you hit the genetic lottery, just know that you're slowly strangling the earth. I don't think I'm great. I just know that. That you know that you're slowly strangling the earth. Taller man more. You're slowly destroying this planet that we love so much. All right. My hot seat, I have two.
Starting point is 00:36:39 The first one is Chris Sims. I don't know if you guys saw this, but Chris Sims is beefing with the Sports Center Instagram account. So he got very, very upset. Omar? Chris, is that who runs it? Chris Sims had a take earlier this year that said there's just no way, talking about, sorry, talking about Jalen Hurts, he said there's just no way he's more valuable to his team
Starting point is 00:37:01 than Mahomes, Burrow or Allen. Those teams are not the same teams if they don't have them at a quarterback. If you put Gardner Minshew in for the Eagles, they'd still be really damn good. Gardner Minshew obviously started twice, lost twice. So Sports Center keeps posting it over and over and over. And Chris Sims went on his podcast, he said, fuck you Sports Center Instagram for putting it out there for a third time in three weeks, like fuck off, like really fuck off ESPN Sports Center.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Do they not make content over there anymore? I mean, damn, stop jockeying me ESPN. Holy shit. Give me a piece of your check. Invite me on Sports Center and let's have a fucking conversation. That might be a little bit of an overreaction. Anytime you're getting into an actual like debate with a brand account, you're already losing.
Starting point is 00:37:47 You're already losing at that point. Like what are you expecting Sports Center is going to write back to you? It's also just, you know, if you're in this business, you're going to be wrong. How you handle being wrong is a is a pretty big testament to like who you are. Well, I actually think that that Chris Sims is doing the right thing in the wrong way, which is turning this into content for himself and getting us to talk about Chris Sims beefing with the Sports Center Instagram account. Well, no, but he's actually mad about it.
Starting point is 00:38:13 He's very mad. He's actually very mad online about it, where he should just be pretending to be mad online and then using this to get us to talk about it. Yes. Yes. I mean, if you stand up, if Chris Sims is looking for haters, I did during Thursday Night Football Jets Jaguars retweet the tweet where he said, Zach Wilson is, I see Patrick Mahomes. I see Patrick Mahomes, a lot of Patrick Mahomes, or sorry, I see a lot of Patrick Mahomes in
Starting point is 00:38:36 Zach Wilson. He's my number one quarterback this year. Yeah. I did retweet that. Okay. So if you're looking for anyone who's trying to jock you, I hand up, I've jocked you Chris Sims. Got you.
Starting point is 00:38:48 It's fucking funny. Isn't he? It's like who? Yeah. If you're a top button guy, I almost assume you have to be a top button guy from the jump. Right. Once you go on TV the first time. And I like Chris Sims.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I know him personally. But Chris, we got to, I got to maybe reach out to him and be like, dude, you can't, you can't let the ESPN into the top button guy because you can't, you can't just like transition into it. It's not like the bowtie. Yeah. Where you phase out of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:12 If you're a top button guy, I almost assume you have to be a top button guy from the jump. Right. Once you go on TV the first time. And I like Chris Sims. You can't let the ESPN Instagram account win. Yeah. He should do like an informal version of his podcast where he takes the button down.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah. Or that's a segment. I could also tell that this was brewing because he did text me a few months ago a little upset about my, my affiliation with Tuanan. So he and Florio do not like Tuanan. And so they're like, who's Tuanan? We're trying to get the, trying to get the hard answers. Well, did they come back at, did they, is he showing like a victory parade?
Starting point is 00:39:47 Well, no, it's concussed. Oh yeah. It's true. You can't, you can't, you can't stung on that. Yeah. My other hot seat is Dana White. That was bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You had that, Billy? That was my hot seat. What are your thoughts on? He got bitch slapped. Yeah. That would be my thought. That's your takeaway from it. That was my thought.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Is that he got slapped? Yeah. Billy, you can't, I can't believe you sometimes. No, I think the other part was probably the takeaway. Yeah. If you missed the video, Dana White slapped his wife in public. Billy. Apologize, but also, I just think that if you slap your wife in public, that.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Or in private. Yeah. No, I'm saying if you slap your wife in public, it feels like you might be okay with slapping your wife all the time. Yes. Yeah. That's not something that you do like you go out to the club. It's like, oh, today I just woke up and I was a wife slap guy.
Starting point is 00:40:39 You're surrounded by a hundred people and you start hitting your wife. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably. Like sober thoughts thing where bad, bad, bad, bad, you're doing that when you're really drunk. Yeah. Bad, bad, bad.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Just don't hit women. Very, very easy rule to live by. Yeah. Just straight up. Do not do it. Um, that's Sean Connery interview went viral a couple days ago when Barbara Walters died and she was like, you said in an interview at one point that, um, it's okay to hit your wife.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And he's like, yeah, no, I stand by that. Yeah. And she was like, she was like, she was like, what? Yeah. That's something that she, you fully expect a guy like that to be like, no, actually I was taken out of context and it sounds really bad. But here's what I meant. Be like, double down on it.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Yeah. No, it's true. It's very bad. Very bad. All right. My cool throne is Tulane football. Just want to give a shout out to Tulane football. What a fucking comeback against USC.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Also an all time stinking Riley like USC. This is, this is the bed you made. He's a very good coach. Yeah. But his defense has never been good and, uh, those things will happen. But I just, they have, Tulane has like some of the best colors in the country. They haven't been good in forever. I love that logo too.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. Scott. Oh, it's so good. They left, I think it was like sometime in the fifties, they left the SEC for academics and it's been all downhill since in terms of football program. But they're back. What? 12 win season, maybe?
Starting point is 00:42:01 11, 12. Two and 10 to, I think 11. I think, I think it might be 12 and two. It's the biggest turnaround I think in college football history. Willie Fritz, shout out Willie Fritz and, uh, that was an awesome, fun game. I'm going to miss bowl season very much. It really is my favorite time to watch it also, uh, anyone who had Illinois plus three and a half, my thoughts are for you, but you really shouldn't have bet against a dead
Starting point is 00:42:21 coach game. Yeah, that's on you. At the end of the Tulane game, I love seeing the fans just like freak out because it was never in your expectation. If you went to Tulane, they'd ever find yourself in a position like beating USC in a bowl game. Yeah. And the look on their faces of like, holy shit, we did it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 That's the best part about college football. Yes. And there's some people saying that Oklahoma fans bitching about Lincoln Rylan using this as an opportunity to take a leak on him because he lost this bowl game is immature and beneath the people of Oklahoma. I actually, I think this is exactly what you should be doing. Yeah. That's, that's college.
Starting point is 00:42:54 That's college football. If you're an Oklahoma Sooners fan, you should be the, the most petty person on earth and celebrate every single one of Lincoln Riley's failures. Facts. The other thing about that game, I don't remember ever having a safety mean more. They were down eight and they got a safety. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen that.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah. Like cause usually safeties happen in weird score games or, you know, defensive battles or it will happen early, but like, oh, put a pin in that. Literally just a two point conversion they got and they got the ball back and scored and won. Yeah. What do you think about this? Mike Greenberg, dumb rule.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Safety should be worth four because the safeties are so hard to get. I think two points is like, it's like spitting in the face of the defense and they always stop the forward motion. Yeah. So I was going to say, I think a safety should count as four if it's a clean sack of the quarterback in the end zone. Okay. And if it's a holding in the end zone, it's two or three.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yeah. Two, I think two, like a holding in the end zone to when the running back tries to run and he gets stopped. That should be two, but a true old fashioned sack in the end zone because that doesn't really happen. It doesn't. I would say like, if you stop a running back cold in the end zone, that's three. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I like it. I like it. Billy. Just saying, I'm very against violence against women. Oh, thank you. Yeah. But you're also against dudes looking like bitches. It sounds like.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yes. Oh, Billy. Come on. No. No, that was a bad joke. I'm really sorry. My cool throne, adventure. Adventure.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Okay. Yeah. Well, no, he's on in the hot seat. You know, so that was unspoken. My hot seat again is me for a thing that I said five seconds ago. It's a wild video all around. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. Yeah. Mostly Dana White. It is bad. Yes. Mostly Dana White. Actually almost all Dana White. All Dana White.
Starting point is 00:44:40 It looks terrible. Very bad. Throughout the whole thing. Yes. My cool throne is adventure. There's a bunch of treasure in the East River. Why are you ancient treasure? Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I love this. I love this for you, Billy. It sounds like a fun project that you can work on. Like coins. But why are you giving this all away? Yeah. There's actually treasure there. Why are you saying it on?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Because it's already out there. Dude, what? Why would you do that? Here, I'll give you, you can bleep one thing from this show. Okay. You want to bleep that? No. No.
Starting point is 00:45:06 The treasure is on E 65th Street next to the FDR drive in the water and Donnie from Donnie does. He's got a buddy with a boat and we're going to try to go get it. Nice. Okay. So when he has a swam across the East River, so why are you giving people the exact coordinates of this treasure? It's already out there.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Okay. How do you know that it's there? We don't know if it's there. What is it? Exactly. It's woolly mammoth bones, tusks, ivory, worse millions. It's a billion treasure. Who it's paying for?
Starting point is 00:45:39 It's worth millions, bro. But like who? Who do you sell it to? Russians, probably. All right. So if there's actually woolly mammoth bones in the East River. That's one of those answers that's so dumb, but I kind of agree. That was an answer from Billy that I know is wrong, but I just don't want to explore it
Starting point is 00:45:56 any further. I mean, no, but it makes sense. Russians don't buy it. If it's in the river, isn't the water... It's an estuary, so the tide does come in and out and there has been many, you know, generational gigantic hurricanes that have hit since they were dropped off in a long time ago. So how did the bones get there?
Starting point is 00:46:13 What about like all of the oil and gas from boats that come through constantly? Okay, Greta. I mean, we're going to go look for these bones. We're going to throw in some wetsuits and go scuba diving or just free diving. All right. So what are you going to do with them? Once hopefully we find them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Then we get to go on Joe Rogan. Okay. Wait, Billy, I've got a tusk. I've got a woolly mammoth tusk I can give you. Should we just fake we found the tusk? And we should send it to the Russians. Yes, send it to the Russians. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Using your Russian connections. Yeah. I've got a molar too. Wait, let's just pretend we found those in the East River and then... No, you should go. You should go. Yeah, go. Yeah, go.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And don't worry about like getting certified scuba or whatever. Just jump in. Don't even use scuba diving. It's actually hold the breath. I'm a free diver. Yeah, hold the breath. It's only 15 feet. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah. Then you hit sludge. You know what you need to do is you need to take... And there's no way it's underneath the sludge. Yeah. It's going to be in the sludge. So I think we're going to get a big hook on the end of a line and then just drag it around the bottom.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Sounds like you've got this all planned out. Yeah, it's perfect. And if anybody has an underwater drone that, you know, they would lend us that. James Cameron. Yeah. But yeah, or if anyone has some serious equipment that could actually help us find it in the East River, we're going to be coordinating this. This is like in TV.
Starting point is 00:47:28 If James Cameron directed National Treasure, this is what you've gotten yourself into. Yeah. I like this. Great director. Great movie. Let's go. Jake. My hot seat is name mix ups.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So we have this PGA golfer named Scott Stallings. Yes. He's a random guy named Scott Stallings was sent the invitation to participate in this year's masters tournament and he DMed him and said, I think this is for you. All time. All time. Good guy move. I would have absolutely shown up.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. At the range. Yeah. That's a classic golf fan too. Yeah. Like self policing on that one. Respect for the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Like you deserve to be in the field. Scott Stallings has to get him tickets, right? Yeah. Has to. Has to. At least Caddy the part three. If he doesn't have kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Get the primary. Make sure that Scott, if he doesn't, I will skull fuck. Yeah. The real Scott Scott. The golfer. Yeah. The golfer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:25 What would you do, Jake? If that got sent to you? Oh, I mean, yeah, I'm right away. Oh, yeah, you would. Yeah. I'd be, I'd be showing up. I would probably kill the real Scott Stallings and just assume his identity entirely. Be like, listen, I've got to start right here.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Imagine you won. How awesome would that be too? If you, if you showed up and you, they like actually let you play and you just posted like who is the two rounds? Oh, is the fake 250? The fake Clay Thompson right at the finals. Yeah. He's got all the way on the court.
Starting point is 00:48:50 He warmed up. Yeah. Yeah. My other hot seats March Madness. There's talks of expanding it to 90 teams today. Which would be. I'm in. Not great.
Starting point is 00:48:58 No. I'm in. Why more games? Yeah. I'm in. I don't fuck it. I'm in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah. Like, okay. So the downside I get. It means a little bit less to get to the tournament. Go under 500 and make the tournament. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:49:14 But then on the flip side, way more games. So yeah, I think I'm in. I think that's the part that I'm in on way more games. You get what a whole other weekend. Probably. In. Yeah. So in.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah. I mean, I know. I listen. Whenever these expansion things are discussed. This is a crazy. Yeah. No, I know. But like even college football expansion or the NFL playoff expansion MLB.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Every league is expanding and I get the argument. Like, you know, the making the playoffs means less. You're going to have bad teams. But then when you start the playoffs, there's just more playoffs. Right. And that fucking rules. Yeah. That week one campus site, college football playoff set of games is going to be unreal.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Do you know what we need less of is the regular season. We need more playoffs in all things. Yeah. Playoffs are the best. I actually think that I'm going to hate the new March madness. The brackets going to look ugly as hell. And I'm going to, I'm going to despise it for the first year. And then after that first weekend, I'll be like that.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Honestly, that was good because it's just more sports. They also, if they do it correctly, I think the way to do it would not to be make a 90 bracket, 90 team bracket. It would be basically just an entire bracket of play-ins. Yeah. Because then it would just, then that's like, Hey, you can make the, oh, they're not really in the tournament yet, but those are still games you'd watch. Remember what was the game?
Starting point is 00:50:36 Was it Notre Dame? Who played Notre Dame in the play in the? Rutgers. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome, awesome game. And you play those Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Those higher seated teams though.
Starting point is 00:50:48 No, those were like the last four ends. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Just make it all the last, whatever it'd be like the last 30 in. Yeah. It's the last at large ones that get in. Yeah. So the conference champions still get in no matter what.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Right. And it would just be fun to watch. Then you just put it, you know, five games Monday, five games Tuesday, five game Wednesday. And then start the real tournament. It sounds good to me. Sounds great to me. So I'm looking at a blank 90 team bracket right now in this format of 38 teams would get a buy.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I don't know how the math works out there, but the top 38 would be. Does Wisconsin get a buy this year? Yeah. It's too many rules. Is it a top 25? Yeah. That's. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I just want to see where your bracket. That's the one thing I don't like about this type of thing is just, it's new rules that I have to learn and new procedures and new details. I don't, my brain doesn't have any more space for being like, Oh, it's 38 buys. And then this is how it recedes. Once the different plans beat each other. There's no receding. I don't want to know.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I don't want to know. I don't want to know all that though. I just, it's so nice to sit down 64 teams. You play each other and then boom, you get a champion. I hear you PFT, but more marsh madness. Yes. It's more games. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I hate it now. And the brackets going to piss me off. I then once it's once we're actually in the thick of it, I'll be like, okay, more sports. I need to. Yeah. I need to just find someone. I think we're still, it doesn't like expanded playoffs. I need to just sit there and debate him.
Starting point is 00:52:05 And he just makes this long-winded argument about how it makes the regular season cheap. And I'll just be like, but more March madness. Yeah. And then I went because it's more March madness. No one would complain about that happens. My cool throne big cat. We did it. Flex of the year.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yes. One and on our last one Packers Lions. Thank you for convincing me. Yep. They had a hard on for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. And there are people saying that game might be irrelevant for the lions if the Seahawks win.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Yeah. And the Lions are going to play hard no matter what. Yeah. I actually think the real strategy is if the Rams lose the Seahawks hammer the lions because that line will go up. Like that line will go to six, seven. Yeah. And the Lions are going to try very hard still.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Yeah. And the Lions are going to play hard no matter what. Yeah. They're going to play hard no matter what. They're going to play hard no matter what. Seven. Yeah. And the Lions are going to try very hard still.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Well I'm trying to think what would be the most heartbreaking result for the Lions because Lions fans will assume that that's what's going to happen. So if it's it would it be worse if the Seahawks win and then the Lions lose to the Packers. No. Or would it be worse if the Lions win or wait a second. Seahawks win. If the Seahawks win and then the Lions doesn't really matter at that point. So the worst outcome for the Lions would be the Seahawks winning a very tight nail biting
Starting point is 00:53:28 game where like maybe the Rams are up all game and then the Seahawks win the game. And then the Lions absolutely obliterating. They win too. And so it's like we did our job but we just didn't get in. Now it's interesting because the there's some draft pick ramifications too with the Rams. Right. So the Rams owe the Lions some draft picks for the Matthew Stafford trade.
Starting point is 00:53:49 And so it's actually in the Lions best interest in a weird way if the Rams lose this game. Right. So they win no matter what. They win no matter what. Yeah. It's actually maybe for the first time ever win-win. Yeah. Lions this weekend.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Good job. Yeah. So finishing the season with the flex of your win. Now I know for next season just always favor the superstars. Always. Yeah. Just always. And the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:54:11 I mean think about it. The Saturday schedule Jaguars Titans we knew were going to be in there because it's a win and get in. And then Saturday afternoon they had to figure out a game. That's a game that doesn't mean anything. But every casual fan will tune in. The Mahomes button. Yep.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It just works. There we have it. Okay. Let's get to Pete Prisco. Pete you've got a quick ad and then we have one question with Max Dugget. Yeah. Before we get to Pete Prisco the show is sponsored by BetterHelp. When you're at your best you can do great things but sometimes life gets you bogged down
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Starting point is 00:55:20 Get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash PMT 10% off your first month BetterHelp.com slash PMT. And now here's Pete Prisco. Okay. We now welcome on our very good friend. It is Pete Prisco. He's a senior NFL columnist at CBS Sports.com analyst for CBS Sports HQ Pete. We talked about at the beginning of the show obviously Monday night football really really
Starting point is 00:55:51 sad thing that happened and we all watched it and we're pretty shook and we want to talk about other stuff because we don't want to repeat and just do an entire show about this one event. But you have covered football for a very long time. You've seen a lot of football games. Where was this kind of in terms of uncharted territory when you're watching it on Monday night? It was terrifying.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I mean let's be real. It was terrifying and you guys have been around long enough. You watch the game. You know when players react to it you go oh my gosh there's something really wrong here and I've seen I remember there was a guy once who ran a play and when he was with Jacksonville and training camp and as soon as he ran the play you heard and all the players went oh my god they started running away and you knew it was bad. But you've never seen anything like this.
Starting point is 00:56:40 This was I mean this was a man fighting for his life on the football field and so it was terrifying and we saw back in the day when I was a kid I was 11 years old Chuck Hughes died when he was playing and you know you remember that you say oh my gosh it's terrible and he had a heart attack on the football field. It wasn't because he got hit although some people later disputed that but he had a heart attack on the football field and died as well. So look terrifying. Pit your stomach.
Starting point is 00:57:04 You hope the kids OK. You pray for him and then you go from there. Yeah. Yeah. No I mean it's true and it's it's I think we all just sat there like in complete shock because it was I think the moment when they went to the bills players and you saw guys in tears and you saw guys putting their hands over their mouth you're like players always know players always know before anyone else.
Starting point is 00:57:25 It's just they know what a regular football hit looks like they know what a regular energy looks like they know what something very severe and bad looks like and it was yeah they couldn't play the game. There's no way you play. Yeah. No way you play the game. And do you have I'm kind of in a spot right now torn. I do think that the NFL is callous.
Starting point is 00:57:45 We all know that but I also think we sit on our couch being like you got to stop the game. There's a lot of things that go into it. I don't know how how the order of operations went down. It feels like Zach Taylor and Sean McDermott were the real heroes of being like we're listening to our guys and we're not playing this game. Yeah but there's different reports of whether there is actually a five minute warm up and then yeah the game I find that highly unlikely to be honest with you but you know you never know until all the details get ironed out.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But here's the other thing your coaches you have to take that on yourselves. These players could have just said we're not playing. They're not going to play. It would look bad for the league. I think they ultimately got handled the right way. Now the question becomes what do you do. I mean that's an important game in the football sense of it and sometimes you got to separate life and football but that's an important game.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Let's hope the more Hamlin waits you know wakes up comes out of this as soon as possible. He's fine. He moves on and then they can play the game at some point and when they play it that's that's the tough part. Yeah when when Christian Erickson the soccer player when he died on the field he went into cardiac arrest. They spin the game for a couple hours. He went to the hospital and then I think there was a picture that was tweeted out or
Starting point is 00:58:57 he was responsive. He he was you know they give him CPR and he kind of returned to normal and at that point the teams agreed okay I guess we can retake the field and play the game right now as long as Hamlin is in the situation that it seems like he's in right now which is very much in limbo and you don't know what's going to happen. If he's in that situation I don't know how you can ask the bills to play. Correct. 100% if he if he if he's still unknown and his his outcome is unknown.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I don't know how you ask him to play either. One thing though. Thank gosh there's defibrillators on the sidelines and then if I was standing was in and this should be a message to all the high schools and everybody else out there get those on the sidelines. I mean seriously that that those kind of hits can happen all the time and this will be the last time we talk about it but it's also a great message. Get CPR certified.
Starting point is 00:59:43 It takes two seconds. Yeah. I mean not two seconds but it really does. It's a low bar to go do it. It's a one it's a one hour class. I remember when my before my kids were born I had to go do it just because you have to you know what I mean like child state CPR is different than adult CPR and it's like it's something it's kind of like being a kidney organ donor on your license like you could
Starting point is 01:00:03 save someone's life. You never know when that could happen. All right. It's like in those situations like it is true it's cliche to say but seconds do matter. Oh yeah. The difference in 30 seconds and a minute could be massive. Yes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:00:16 So we'll transition to some other football because we do have a week 18 coming. I wanted to go back and I looked at your Super Bowl prediction. So let's start there. You had the Buffalo Bills over the Green Bay Packers are the Green Bay Packers still able to win the Super Bowl this year. Pete Prisco. Yes. And you know what they're the team that nobody's going to want in the postseason.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Everybody in the NFC playoffs right now is rooting for the Detroit Lions this week. They don't want Green Bay in there because Rogers can get hot. The defense can take the ball away. They still run defense issues which is a major problem for them but they can take the ball away. Their offensive lines getting healthy. Bacteria is back. Jenkins is back.
Starting point is 01:00:58 They're healthy up front. The young wide receivers are growing up. Nobody wants them in the postseason. Yes. They can still go to the Super Bowl. Oh man. No they're not good. Is there something to be said about like a team.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I guess we've had the bottom seeds win Super Bowls. I think the Green Bay Packers did actually and the Ravens did right. I think Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. No he did. The Bears let him in the playoffs. The Giants did it. The Giants have done it before.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Teams get on the run and do that. Yeah. Absolutely. You can do it. When he won the Super Bowl Rodgers he did it. Yeah. And he got as hot as possible can be. And look every year there's a team that comes from nowhere that shows up and makes a deep
Starting point is 01:01:35 playoff push in the Bengals who thought the Bengals were going to make a deep playoff push the Super Bowl push last year. But okay. All right. So my only counterpoint to it and I know that you know I obviously remember the year that was the Randall Cobb year or no that wasn't the Randall Cobb year. There's so many fucking tortured years. It was the J Cutler knee year in the NFC championship.
Starting point is 01:01:54 The Packers like the Bengals last year is a good example. They went and they beat the Chiefs like before the playoffs. You know what I mean. Like they were peaking. They were beating good teams. The Packers have beaten the Titans the Dolphins with two issues. They lost to the Titans. They lost to the Titans.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh yeah. That's right. They lost to the Titans. So so I mean but they beat the they they they haven't like beaten unbelievable teams the Cowboys. Yeah. I have issues with the Cowboys. I'm just I'm just trying to grasp it.
Starting point is 01:02:22 They beat the Vikings. The Vikings. The Vikings. The Vikings. The Vikings stink. You know the Vikings stink. You know. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I'm with you. They're they're minus 19 point differential. They have 12 wins. That's incredible. It is. Miami on the road. They beat the Bears suck. They beat the Rams suck.
Starting point is 01:02:40 They beat the Dolphins with with two issues and then they beat the Vikings. Those are the last four wins. Is there. Why. Why are we saying that this is like they're they're peaking at the right time. Come on. Well OK. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:52 San Francisco. Yeah. They're probably the best team in the in the NFC right now. Right. I agree. We don't you don't know what Bernie's going to do in the playoffs. They have no idea. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:03 I think the 49ers are built to the point where they can actually take that guy in a video game. You know like the fourth string quarterback that you select and it's just the silhouette of a gray head and that guy's playing quarterback for you. The Niners can do as long as that gray head doesn't turn the ball over as long as that gray head doesn't throw three interceptions. I think the 49ers are built to the point where they could beat any team in the NFL because they've won so many Super Bowls to play in that way.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I haven't won any. I mean yeah I get it. I mean oh they could do it with Jimmy they could do it with this guy they could do a trey land. They could ever want it yet. So there's always the possibility they can't win it. So I get what you're saying because that team is talented and that defense is nasty and D'Amico Ryans is a great coach and Kyle Shanahan is one of the best play ballers.
Starting point is 01:03:45 It's not the best play baller in the NFL. But there's always the unknown. What if they're down 10 in the fourth quarter? Can Purdy take them back? You know Christian McCaffrey will throw three touchdown passes. Yeah. No it's half back tosses. It's a fair point.
Starting point is 01:03:57 All right so sticking the NFC. Maybe. I don't I don't care either way but Max our producer is a big Eagles fan. I don't care about the Eagles at all but to make him feel better. Well as long as Hertz back they're tough to defend. I mean it's it's a hard team to defend it's a hard team to get ready for if you've got to beat them. If you say you win your divisional round you've got to play them in the championship game.
Starting point is 01:04:16 It's hard to get ready for that style of offense in that short period of time. So it's going to be a challenge for anybody. They're different offense. Carter Mitchell is not a starting quarterback in the NFL anybody keeps saying that is way off base. He's not. He's a backup quarterback. He's a good backup quarterback.
Starting point is 01:04:31 But there are different offense when Jalen Hertz is in the lineup. What happened. Lane Johnson hurts. By the way they got he got sacked six times last week. They were brutalized up front. That's not a good thing. And they have run defense issues which is never a good thing. So is it easy to say they're the number one seed and they're going to go run through the
Starting point is 01:04:48 NFC. Absolutely not. Yeah. What about the. What about the Bucks. Tell me that is Tom Brady. Is he peeking at the right time. Is it going to be one of those things where he's going to host a playoff game.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah. I'll ask you this way out of the old guys in the NFC who's more likely to go on a run right now. Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady. Tom Brady because he's at home. I think that matters. You're all everybody's sitting here saying the same exact thing and we said it all year at some point Tom Brady is going to look like Tom Brady.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Well last week he finally did. So what's going to happen in the first round of the playoffs. Who's going there. The Cowboys and everybody's going to sit here and say oh they're going to Cowboys. They're going to lose the Tom Brady because Tom Brady and his team has figured it out. What has happened is the offensive line has got guys back now works his back. That's important for them. I think that show he could stand in there and make the throws.
Starting point is 01:05:39 And Carolina what we do in leaving your corner in one on one situations over there the entire game with Mike Evans. He just abused him. It was a terrible plan. So yeah Tampa Bay can get on a roll. I don't think they're good enough to win it but they can get a couple wins in a playoffs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:55 I mean I I'm unfortunately starting to I've thought the Bucks have been trash all year and I'm starting to believe in them especially if Ryan Jensen comes back because that's really been I've been a big believer that the Bucks defense has been good. It's their offensive line that has just made Tom Brady look as bad as possible all year long and like everyone's out of sync. Can't run the football with Tristan Worfes and Ryan Jensen possibly back. It's like I don't know. Maybe they will make a run.
Starting point is 01:06:19 You know what you know it's great though you said Tom Brady's peeking at the right time. Yeah at the age of 46. Yeah. Yeah he's peeking. He hasn't even peeked yet. He hasn't even peeked yet. It's incredible. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:30 The avocado ice cream or whatever the hell it puts in his body we should we should all be eating that. Yeah. Lord knows we don't. All right. So the AFC I I want to give you because I see your donuts every Saturday too by the way. I'm on a diet now.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So I'm on a diet now. You're going to be welcome to my world. You're going to see me super cool. We all got picked up. We get picked up. Super Bowl. You're going to see me. I saw you guys are both going to be ripped at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah. Yeah. I'm back on the Peloton Pete. I know I know that triggers you when I post my scores. How long were you off of it? Two years. About two years. I took a brief hiatus.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Okay. So when when I see you at the Super Bowl you're both going to be ripped. Yeah. Pretty much at the Super Bowl like don't worry about your laundry. You can just do it on my abs. No. There's no conceivable way. That time frame.
Starting point is 01:07:15 You can make that happen. Zero. Okay. I actually did. Earlier this morning. Hand up. I googled male liposuction male liposuction abdominals cost. So it's in my price range.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I might just I might just go under the knife. Yeah. You know what it is and I go see my doctor before every season and he says I said yeah this is going to be the year I'm not going to put on the 10 to 12 pounds I put on every year for fat ball season and he goes yeah and okay we'll make an appointment for you in March and we'll see and we're here it is in January and here it is fat balls. You go to your you go to your doctor right before every season. That's such a football guy move like just a quick checkup.
Starting point is 01:07:53 See how we're doing. I do all my appointments before the season and then you go back after the season and he yells at you. Yeah. Physical getting ready for it. Yeah. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 01:08:06 All right. So the AFC I want to give you not talking about the playoffs yet. I want to give you credit. I want to give you your soapbox. You have been right about Russell Wilson especially this year. How good does it feel to have a lot of the nerds and stat boys who wanted Russ to cook. How good does this year feel for Pete Prisco and his long standing take that he's a good quarterback but he makes a lot of mistakes and his his height is a detriment.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And his inability to move is now a detriment too. I mean he's excited points this season look like one of us. I mean he just doesn't move very well and and so that's the concern. Look I'm not going to sit here and say he didn't have good years because he did but early in his career best best scoring defense in the league for four straight years the only other team to do it was a 50s dynasty Browns. So that tells you how good they were in defense and they could run the ball. He didn't have to do much when he had to do stuff they let him play loose and he free
Starting point is 01:08:57 and he did a nice job. He was a good quarterback but that was all you know getting outside the pocket creating his legs going up tempo. And now I think we're seeing the results of not being able to move like you used to move. He's not good in the pocket. He's not making good accurate throws. He's getting hit a bunch as offensive line stinks and it's all added up to a terrible quarterback and now they're on the hook for it.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah. You think they have buyer's remorse. I mean Pete Carroll should be coaching the year just for getting rid of him. That's true. OK. Yeah. Pete. So you you do hate Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 01:09:28 That's been established. No that's not true. I don't hate anybody. No you hate him. He's your arch enemy. But you defeated him. I never was a fan of his game. You won.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Put it that way. OK. You won the you won the war though. Like long term. There were a few battles. You remain committed to it. You came out on top. Is there a way you're also a capologist you know a lot about the salary cap.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Is there a way that Denver could move on from Russell Wilson if they wanted to. Not for a couple of years. Absolutely not. No way. No way. Too much money involved. Too much guaranteed money. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Zero. What about a trade. And so now you would anybody have to accelerate they'd have to accelerate the cap the you know the remaining cap into the cap the remaining bonus money into the cap it's too much. And no they're stuck with them and that's the thing. If you get that job that's your quarterback. You're stuck with them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So off of that what coach wants that job who's going to who's going to take that job. Well you got to figure it. Every coach has an ego every single one of like I fix them I'll get in there he's going to be just young get them back to Russell Wilson again or you can hire a guy like Jim Harbaugh and just have him turn around and hand the ball off 42 times a game in 1970s football. I mean that's possible too. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I mean that that is that is highly possible. Just talk that Harbaugh would be interested that job. Yeah. Yeah I could see I could see Harbaugh going there Harbaugh I actually do think he would be the I can fix this man. Oh yeah. What would you want with Sean Payton be the I could fix this man. And I know it's on pretty well.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I think he wants his quarterback. Sean Payton's ideal quarterback would have been the guy with the Chargers Justin Herber but the problem is they're not going to get rid of the coach there so that job is out the window. Yeah. So you're your big Jacksonville guy you're plugged in with the team for a long time. You're jagging off right now. It looks like the Jaguars.
Starting point is 01:11:16 My best bet is that they're going to win this weekend. It feels like they've got all the momentum there. Would they actually be is this the best Jaguars team that we've seen since what was it 2017 Blake Bortles. Yeah. And much I mean it's better than that team because no offense to Blake Bortles but Trevor Lawrence better than Blake Bortles. I mean he is yeah you guys wins.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I mean I love Blake. Blake's a great dude but come on Trevor Lawrence is going to be special. He's going to be a special quarterback. He's going to be one of the five six best quarterbacks in this league maybe in a couple years to be one two or three. That's how good he can be. And it's amazing what he's done and by the way let's make a case for Doug Peterson being coach of the year.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Okay. Here's why. He had to decide the demons of the moron that was in front of him. I mean that's the worst coach in the history of the National Football League. Urban Meyer with his bullhorn and his soft work high school ways give me a break. That thing was a disaster last year. Every week they paraded Trevor Lawrence out as a rookie quarterback to explain away the mess that was Urban Meyer.
Starting point is 01:12:14 The kid handled it well and now he's grown up and Doug Peterson is a great play caller although he has one or two every game and I pick on him because I say one or two every game where he gets into that let's run the Philly special mode and then he runs some stupid play like he had a reverse to a running back the other day where he had Trevor Lawrence as the lead blocker in a meaningless game against the Texans. I mean there's one of those plays every single game. They're going to be I'll tell you what they're not that great on defense. They're getting better on defense.
Starting point is 01:12:43 They're going to be a tough out because they can score. So I agree with you. The Jaguars have been playing great great football. Another team that I still can't wrap my head around and I'd love to hear your take the chiefs the chiefs do feel like they're primed for a run but they've also been keeping hanging and letting teams hang around and a lot of people are asking the question has Patrick Mahomes even proved anything in this league because he's never won a road playoff game and look he's proved a lot this year by what he's done with the offense without Tyree kill.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I mean they're just as good on offense as they ever been but I think they have defensive problems and I think those show up. They do have a game record and you know when you get to the postseason every every team needs a defensive game record and they have Chris Jones he can wreck a game but the outside guys haven't been as effective as I thought they would be. So eventually you got to be able to knock that quarterback down from the edge and I don't know if they're good enough to do that. That's a problem.
Starting point is 01:13:38 I mean at times this year they made a couple of games. They made Russell Wilson look good in a couple of games. That's hard to do. So that tells you something about their defense. I'm worried about the defense but they can score on anybody as well. I'm worried about the special teams as well. It feels like they've had some like whether it be punt return or actual field goals. I'm a big believer in you know we ignore special teams all year and then it always comes up
Starting point is 01:14:00 in the playoffs where it's like oh that that's the games on the margins. You make a mistake. Guy fields a punt you know in the 10 within the 10 yard line or like you know fumbles one miss miss a field goal miss an extra point. That's how playoff games are decided you know put the ball out of bounds kick the ball out of the end zone. Don't don't worry about any of that return. Come on.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Give me a break. Special teams. You're doing it. You're doing it. Make your damn. Yes. Make your damn kicks. That's all you do.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Only damn job. Damn. These kickers. Oh he made his kid from 52. That's his damn job. Make your kick. If you go to practice what do they do all day. They stand on the side and they kick and they kick and they kick and they work on the
Starting point is 01:14:40 mechanism of the snap to hold the kick and they kick and they kick then they get the games you make your damn. It's your job. I like that. You should be a special teams coordinator. Kick the ball out of bounds. Don't let that guy return it. Make your kicks.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Make your damn. That. Yeah. Extra point. Just lean in. Make sure nobody gets the edges and kick. Make the kick. Just make it.
Starting point is 01:15:00 It's not that complicated. It's not a third. It's not a third of the game either. It's a great myth. It's about 14 percent. I don't know. Listen. Listen.
Starting point is 01:15:08 What about the Packers last year. That team had special teams issues all season long and it comes in bites him in the ass against the 49ers. What about the Bears with Cody Parkie like you see teams all year where if you're a fan of that team and you're really dialed in you you're sitting there being like the special teams feels a little off and then it happens and then you you know you give up a totally parking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:31 What was his problem. I know. But I knew it all year long. I said it before the playoff. I was like we're going to have a problem. So they made him you know you know it's funny when you see a kickoff and you're watching a game and you go OK just put it out of the end zone and go from there and let him play right.
Starting point is 01:15:44 But then you see oh no he's going to hit a high one to about the the three yard line and see if they can pin him in just get that in the end zone you don't have to worry about it. It's not that complicated. I agree. If the bills had done the right thing if the bills had done the right thing in that playoff loss to the chiefs they would have been in the Super Bowl and probably would have won the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Yeah they didn't they didn't and they lost the game. Yeah. No it's a good it's a foolproof strategy honestly just make your kicks and don't let the other team return your kicks for touchdown. Yes. Special teams coordinator Pete Prisco. I think there's a future here. Not the damn ball of the bounds and you don't worry about it just pin them deep just coffin
Starting point is 01:16:20 corner it. And so it is it's true though like it's not a third of the game but it could bad special teams can completely wreck an otherwise good football team. So the 2010 Chargers you remember those guys. They had the best offense number one offense in the NFL. They had the number one defense in the NFL. They didn't make the playoffs. That's how bad their special teams was.
Starting point is 01:16:44 That's called charging. That's what that's called because we've seen that over the course of their their lifetime they've charged. They always seem to charge or it doesn't matter what it is but they always seem to find the way. Don't they. But it's just different right. You're different.
Starting point is 01:16:58 We're not going to charge her. You know what I like their team. I really do. I think that quarterback is special. I think their defense has playmakers all over it. You got both of them back. They can attack the quarterback. Mack hasn't been as good this year.
Starting point is 01:17:08 The offensive lines had some injuries but those guys have played better and you know the receivers are back. They've had some injuries in Keenan Allen. That's a problem. Think about week one. Chargers at Jacksonville. That's probably what the game is going to be if they both win if they both win this week. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah. So tell me the Chargers more or less like if they're going up if they're traveling to Jacksonville you think the Chargers have a chance to beat them. Are you that high on your beloved Jaguars. Oh no they have a chance to beat them. Absolutely. Jacksonville whacked them early in the season but they didn't have the receivers and Herbert was playing with bad ribs.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Remember they went out there and just dominated. I worry about Jacksonville's defense. I think you know Herbert can stand back there and pick them apart. That might be one of those games last one with the ball 33-30 two quarterback shooting it out and see what happens and that's what that game could be. That'll be fun to watch. And by the way it'll be get ready for it because you can already schedule a game around. It's going to be at four.
Starting point is 01:18:01 The first game on Saturday will be Jacksonville Jaguars. I went back and looked since 2010 the AFC South Champ or team has played in that spot every year except one and the only time they didn't have it didn't happen was when Carolina was seven eight and one and they were playing in that spot. Okay. So we guarantee Jacksonville plays the early game first game in the wild card round Pete Prisco guarantee. I like that.
Starting point is 01:18:26 They did set it up for the Jaguars play Saturday nights. They could turn around and play Saturday again. Some of us have an advantage by the way that is a disadvantage this week because the Titans have three days rest but they get an advantage if they win because the Chargers or whoever play on Sunday. So some of us are not lucky enough to have playoff teams. So I want to ask a draft question. The Bears look like as long as they lose on Sunday they'll have the number two pick.
Starting point is 01:18:50 What would you do if you were Ryan polls and I'm I this is the first time I'm saying it out loud. So it's breaking news. I'm starting to get a little nervous that Ryan polls like I've seen some quotes where he's like yeah Justin Fields incredible runner but he's got to he's got to get better as a passer. Is there a chance that they trade him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:08 No. I don't want to. Zero. Okay. Zero. No. And Justin Fields will get better as a passer. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Watch that. You I mean you know I do spinning top of the week every week I take an offensive lineman or an offensive line and I go through all the tape and I pick them out we make a little spinning top graphic and everything and this week it's the Chicago Bears. Oh they were bad last week. Yeah. Really bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 They've been bad all year. Pass protection. Riley Reef was terrible. The rookie left tackle. He's a good player for him. Joe he's going to be a good player but boy I'll tell you what they got beat up the other day and that's a problem. So they got to get better on the offensive line and they got to give him some weapons.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I don't worry about him as a passer. I think he's going to end up being a good passer. Not a great passer. He's going to be a good passer but his threat with his legs is going to make him a really good passer because they can't defend him the right way. So what would you do with the second pick. Would you trade it. Would you figure out a way to package a deal and you know knowing I would the quarterbacks
Starting point is 01:20:02 that are coming up. Well if you could get a deal I would do that. I don't think anybody I don't I'm not sure this quarterback group warrants going up to get somebody. Oh I mean if you break it down Bryce Young is five nine. I mean he five ten. I love the way he throws a football but can you take you know he was standing next to Mark Ingram the other day and he looked like the same size Mark Ingram is five nine.
Starting point is 01:20:24 I mean that's a little quarterback and he's not a big guy the way he can sling it. So I would probably take him first or Levis who had a bad year at Kentucky. You know you guys got on the John Allen train. You're going to probably get on the Will Levis train. We've already started. Yeah. He's our friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:43 He's a friend of the show. Yeah. So we're right. So he can he can spin it. He had a bad year this year because his team stunk his line stunk as he was stunk and all he did was turn his hand off because he got hurt. What do you have. Ten and a half inch.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Last year he was outstanding. Yeah. Ten and a half inch hands. Pretty good hands. So we measured him. I mean he's last year against Georgia he was really good and that defense was loaded with NFL players. And then you have CJ Stroud who had his best game in the big moment.
Starting point is 01:21:06 I mean he was fantastic the other day. So I think that but I don't think there's a Trevor Lawrence in this draft or one of those guys. So I think that's concern. So I don't think you'll trade down. Maybe you can. But Jalen Carter is a beast man from Georgia. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:21 That kid is a monster. OK. I mean I you know Will Anderson is a possibility as well. If you're the bearers I mean I think that's a strong possibility as well. All right. Defense of hell. Yeah. You need everything.
Starting point is 01:21:33 You need everything. Yeah. We were going to defense the last couple of weeks. I mean they've been awful. Oh it's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. We were just talking the other day about how there's there's usually one surprise coach that gets fired at the end of every season.
Starting point is 01:21:44 We're trying to figure out who that could be or maybe if there's multiples. Is there one guy whose name could be on the hot seat that isn't like the top of the list that everybody thinks could be fired. This year I don't see it. I mean you guys have Kingsbury on that list I would imagine that's not a surprise goes. Who else did you have on the list. I mean. I love you.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Lovey Smith potentially. Yeah. That's a potential. If they want to go you know big splash I could see them doing that he actually did a good job with that team down the stretch because they don't have a ton of talent. How about Rivera yeah I might I think Rivera wanted to get fired. I don't understand exactly what's going on DC right now. Snyder is in a tough position though because do you fire a head coach as you're in the
Starting point is 01:22:29 process of selling a team and then you're stuck where you have to like maybe make a new hire as somebody's bidding on your franchise. It seems like a bad time just like in terms of logistics and financial stuff to acts a coach in my way off on that. No you're not way off and plus if you if you act some pay them you got to pay them and then you hire another one he's going to get paid and the new ownership might not want them. That's what happened in Denver.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah. In fact it was hired before the new ownership took over so they're more apt to fire them. Now their new ownership has a ton of money so it's easy to just say hey get rid of them we'll pay him. See and that's the trend nowadays these guys these owners now have so much money that they can fire guys and not really worry about the implications of it and that's the way it is. You think about it he's going to be paying a coach for four more years going to be paying two coaches for four years.
Starting point is 01:23:21 They don't care. They have the cash to do it. What about what about Stefansky and Cleveland. I doubt it. I doubt. I mean come on. He played the whole year without a starting quarterback who they made that trade to go get.
Starting point is 01:23:34 He didn't play so no I don't think so. I think he might you know they might force him to change the way he plays on offense and make him play more a little bit more up tempo and throw the ball around a little more but I don't think they're going to fire him. Okay. What about McCarthy. What does he have to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Stick around because it seems like this is the time of the year things heat up around Mike McCarthy. The expectation from Jerry Jones is to win which is kind of ironic because they haven't really won since nineteen what ninety five ninety six. But like that's the expectation. He says that's the expectation is he wants a Super Bowl. McCarthy feels like he could be a guy that could make the playoffs if he loses first round still get fired which I think would be wrong but it's possible like Mike's a better
Starting point is 01:24:20 coach to people give him credit for I don't understand. The guy wins eleven games at least every year and he had Aaron Rodgers. I get it but still he's a better coach to people give him credit for it. That's one of those ones that has taken on life of its own in the Twitter cult world. That's what that is. Oh one guy says it to say it for say it eight and then they'll everybody yeah they're right. We all agree. It's not great on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:24:43 That's what that is. That's exactly what that but there's a better coach to people give credit. I do think he's a good coach but I think that he's got big blind spots where every time he's in a big game there is a moment where he either takes too long to make a decision or he makes just one completely baffling decision per game that ultimately ends up being a pretty big reason why they end up losing. So I think I can tell you they all do but when he does he when he does he's fatter. He looks fat.
Starting point is 01:25:10 He looks really fat but I mean I know I'm the takes one no one but no I mean think about it. You guys know too. By the way. He's a better coach to get credit for. They all make major mistakes. Give me a break. They all do.
Starting point is 01:25:25 What is it. Belichick at fault for what happened against the Raiders a couple weeks ago. That's his responsibility. He's the coach. He did it. That's his fault. It's Matt Patricius. I do agree with that because there's it's the Belichick saying either you're coaching
Starting point is 01:25:40 it or you're allowing it. And like that. That's a great saying. Yeah. Yeah. Why didn't he take a knee. Take a knee and go to overtime. I'm going to throw a Hail Mary because you said he could you felt he couldn't reach the
Starting point is 01:25:51 end zone. Why didn't you take a knee because you're not going to rip a 60 yard 55 yard run. Take the knee. All he did was subject his team to more problems like at the end of a half when a team gets the ball back with 30 seconds left. They're not going to try and go get points because they're not what they're going to do. But they hand it off anyway.
Starting point is 01:26:10 What do you hand it off for. What's the point of that. All you can do is watch the handoff and somebody fumbles and they get the ball there. Stupid. They all make they all make major mistakes. Every one of them except you just make your kicks. That's all you got to do. No I would make them too because in the heat of the moment you're going to do it.
Starting point is 01:26:25 You would accidentally say like don't make this kid. If it dokes off the upright and then you're good if it dokes off the upright now you're not. So I mean I would I would I'd have my I would be just ready to grab. I always say it. I joke around. All right. So one team we didn't talk about and I think we're going to probably not talk about the
Starting point is 01:26:50 bills and Bengals because there's just a lot in limbo right now. But the Ravens what's going on with Lamar Jackson. Is there anything that's going on that's like maybe he if he had a contract would be back. It's all very confusing because I think the Ravens if Lamar Jackson is healthy they are another team that you put in the category of teams that don't you don't want to play them because their defense is salty and having Lamar is a game changer obviously. There's nothing in terms I wouldn't believe that the kids a competitor he loves to compete. I don't think he would do that.
Starting point is 01:27:21 I just you know judge him but people I know and talk to know I would say no I'd agree. So he's hurt. Yeah he's hurt. So him not being in a lineup changes the whole dynamic of that team. I hope he gets back soon because it's fun to watch. But you know what he wasn't playing that well either before he got hurt. He was their passing game is limited and when your passing game is limited you have problems. This is a passing league and I think they haven't exactly built a great group of people
Starting point is 01:27:49 around him. And I think that's hurt him. But again you have to be able to throw the ball and you have to be able to throw from the pocket. And he's a good pocket passer but he doesn't have a lot of weapons. That's the problem. Yeah. And I don't think he ever will in Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:28:02 They are they're so committed to not having good wide receivers. It's honestly impressive. But he wants the Sean Watson contract. I mean nobody's nobody's given out those guaranteed fully guaranteed deals like that. They can't. I wouldn't do it. You think right now if you ask the Browns are they happy with the fully guaranteed contract and all the picks they traded to get to Sean Watson after watching him the last four weeks
Starting point is 01:28:23 are you happy with that. I don't think they are. I think that's a wait and see. Yeah. I think you got to you got to judge that next year when we know that we know the Broncos aren't happy. Are the are the Cardinals happy with with their mega deal. No probably not.
Starting point is 01:28:38 No. That's fair. Are they happy. They gave Clip Kingsbury a mega deal. No. No. I mean yeah. Everybody rushes.
Starting point is 01:28:46 See like the Giants are in a situation now. What do you do with Daniel Jones. Yeah. I I've been. Tag him. Yeah. Oh you think tag him because I was going to say you. I think Daniel Jones probably realizes that Dabel has resurrected his career and there
Starting point is 01:29:00 might be a conversation there like hey. We like you. We want you to be our quarterback. We're not going to give you a ton of guaranteed money. We're going to give you a fair deal. But this is the place that you have the best chance to succeed it. And maybe Daniel Jones realizes that where it's mutually beneficial for both sides to figure out a deal that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I wouldn't do that if I were Daniel Jones. Get your money. No. I mean I'd like to stay here but you're paying me. I mean you're not going to obviously he's not going to get one of those you know two hundred fifty million dollar deals but he's got to get a deal that's fair to him. I mean twenty million a year. I mean something like that twenty something million a year.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Couldn't you say that it works both ways in that situation where Daniel Jones is best suited playing for the Giants and that he's more valuable to the Giants than he would be to another team on the open market. Like what team is going to be on the other team. What if another team paid him five million more a year. Did you really think that there's going to be like a lineup of teams that are trying to call you in that you're never going to get that back. No I would know I would not do that.
Starting point is 01:30:02 So what about what about Lamar on the open market then like the fact of the matter is like he is an MVP that could hit the open market which like at the quarterback position never happens. There will be teams that get into a bidding war with each other. It might not be beneficial to give like I think you're right about to Sean and about Kyler and some of the contracts you immediately have buyers or more sometimes and I wouldn't be surprised if a team had buyers more right after they got Lamar if it comes to that but at the same time there's going to be a bidding war between multiple franchises.
Starting point is 01:30:32 So it's probably going to get to a point where it is a lot of guaranteed money just like those other contracts. No you're not going to fully guarantee you can give him a lot of good they've offered him a lot of guaranteed money. They've offered him basically the Russell Wilson deal he could get that deal if you want it. He wants the DeSean Watson deal from what I heard and that they're not going to fully guarantee the owners in this league don't want to fully guarantee contract.
Starting point is 01:30:52 They were all mad that they did that in the first place. So I look he hasn't finished the season right. I mean he got that's a concern with him health is a concern when you're a quarterback. I love the kid. He should take the deal in Baltimore. It's a good deal. It's a fair deal and and you're not going to get fully guaranteed contract. The problem is he's negotiating his deal.
Starting point is 01:31:12 That's always an issue. That's a tough thing. I think I'm worth this. Well we think you're worth that. How do you negotiate against him? You tell your star quarterback you're trying to sign him but yeah but you have a little bit of flaw here a little bit of flaw there. You leave the pocket too soon.
Starting point is 01:31:25 You haven't been healthy enough. You know how do you sell him that when you're negotiating against him when you're trying to sign him to a long-term deal. It's a tough negotiation. That's I think ultimately they can tag him two years in a row by the way yeah it would be a lot of caveat but they could do it. That's it. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:31:41 I haven't heard a lot of people say that but it's true that if you're the one that's doing the negotiation with your boss they're going to have to tell you all the things they don't like about you as justification for not meeting your asking price and then naturally that's going to piss you off. That's going to make that working relationship a little bit worse hearing that. Of course and it's like the age it can come tell you but it's not the same as you hearing it. It's looking you to the face and saying hey Lamar we'd love to pay you 250 million dollars
Starting point is 01:32:09 but this is why we're only going to pay you 245 because let's go back we'll pop on the tape here you are leaving six clean pockets when you should have stayed in there and hit the shot down the middle of the field. Nobody wants to hear that. It's a bad negotiation and the Ravens are in a tough spot because if they take advantage of them they look like the bad guy in the deal so it really is a complex negotiation. All right so last question for me Pete are you sticking with your Super Bowl prediction are you going bills over Packers.
Starting point is 01:32:35 I'll let you have a mulligan if you'd like I mean I know I'm going to take the bills in the 49ers okay okay you coward you're an absolute coward. I mean they're going to have to go on the road three straight weeks and think about it they'll have to win. I mean okay if they play the Vikings in week one at Minnesota who are you picking. The Packers. Okay so then they would win that game and they'd go play the one seed. The Eagles.
Starting point is 01:33:02 Eagles. They lose. That's not. No. They probably lose but that's not saying they can't win it. I think the 49ers of the team they don't want to play the Packers. That's Mike. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I mean that that that Mack truck run them over in the postseason that a couple times. Yeah all right so if we got the Packers at the 49ers week one let's let's drag you into the hatred that Vikings Twitter has for us right now. Yeah I want you involved in that. Giants at the Vikings opening round of the playoffs convinced me that the Giants win that game. They should have beat them two weeks ago. I mean that that was a game they should have it there were drop passes key drop passes
Starting point is 01:33:43 in that game for the Giants Daniel Jones was outstanding that day. They should have won that game. And here's the other thing about the Giants. Those young pass rushers are starting to grow up. Tibbeta who I thought was going to be the best pass rusher in that class he's starting to show up now and that's a problem. Postseason passers pass rushers it's always been that it always will be you know 25 years ago run it play good run defense now it's passers and knock that guy down and you got
Starting point is 01:34:09 to go through every list. Who has a game record on defense. You have to have a game record to succeed. You know last year the everybody says well the Bengals how they get to Hendrickson was a game record last year he had you know almost 20 sacks. You have to have a game record to win in the postseason. I like it game records game record. So you think the Vikings are frauds.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Can we get you on record. I said that word before and then I heard it got back to them and they were real happy about it. Yeah. Look I I've been a you guys say I've been critical Russell Wilson I've been just as critical Kirk Cousins. I think there's a glazed look that comes over his face you know when in moments and when it does you know it's happening and you know Rick Spielman the former Vikings GM works
Starting point is 01:34:49 with us every every Sundays we're watching the games together and I'll start going like this. I go there's the look Rick there it is. You can see it. Yeah. You've done that like 12 times this season they've won all those games. That's the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Why didn't we last Sunday. That's true. But I they do. You know what I'll say. Go ahead. I'll say before a game I'll say hey Rick this is a big game and we know what Kirk Cousins record is a big game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Oh Rick. So that's not a big game. It's not a big game. I go it's a big game. And there it was. I mean look do you guys trust him. No. No.
Starting point is 01:35:24 No we get killed for it because I mean 12 and four is 12 and four you can't you can't knock the fact that they have had a knack for winning these close games and that does take a toughness and Justin Jefferson is the best receiver in the NFL. But I yeah I mean we it's been our take all year like we know we know who Kirk Cousins is. He's he's he's a better than average quarterback but he's not going to go win you a game like a Mahomes Allen Borough Brady Rodgers all these guys it's a it's a there's always the win with and the win because of quarterbacks and he's the win with not a win because of
Starting point is 01:35:57 yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. So you're on you're on record. By the way the AFC is loaded with win because of quarterbacks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I mean you can even throw Justin Herbert in there the way he's been playing Herbert Lawrence will be there. He's getting there. You know Allen Mahomes Borough win with Kenny Pickett with because of not win with yeah I like Kenny Pickett. He's got that. He's got a little Joe Borough swagger to him. You know okay little confident cocky guy that believes in himself.
Starting point is 01:36:28 I like Kenny Pickett facts facts. We love Kenny Pickett. All right. Well Pete thank you as always. This time you see us you won't even be able to recognize us. We'll wear name tags all Super Bowl week because that's how good of shape we'll be in. I don't know if I'm going to wear a name shirtless so conceivable way in 40 days that either one of you won't be the Michelin man when I see you want to make a bet.
Starting point is 01:36:52 You want to make a bet that you can see abs on us at the Super Bowl A I really don't want to see your abs but B if there's no way 40 days it's 40 days you're going to have abs in 40 days because right now I don't see anything close to abs nor do you see anything close to abs and for me. I just lost my hands inside my stomach all season. You're guilty of it. You're going to go watch games. He's going to have doughnuts on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:37:18 You're going to go Saturday. You're going to go watch games and have wings and wrong and beer or whatever I hate wings and beer. You're wrong. You're so wrong. Pete something something's going in there I probably will still get me I just admitted I had pizza twice this week. I mean I admitted I started my diet today too.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Well you're Italian blood type marinara you're going to have your I guarantee because you have doughnuts on Saturday. Oh yeah. There's a box full cheat day. That's cheat day. Do I not get a cheat day. The problem with cheat day is cheat day runs in the cheat week and cheat week runs in the cheat month that you two are not going to have that.
Starting point is 01:37:56 You're so wrong. I'm going to have abs. You still owe me a push up contest. You've been you've been welching on that one for about seven years. You wanted to get bombed and do it. Yeah I did. I'm going to drink a full bad dog and do a push up contest. That challenge is still on the table by the way.
Starting point is 01:38:11 I'm pretty sure I could drink an entire mad dog and probably do twice as many push ups as you. And Pete right now you might be able to. Pete listen we know you're Italian you're a horny man just by nature. Don't try to kiss me when you see how good a shape I'm in. All right. Off limits. I'm going to send you a box of donuts every Tuesday because you know you know the drill
Starting point is 01:38:30 guys if it's in front of you you're going to put your hand in that box and eat it. No. That's not me. Yeah that's that's a horny Italian. What is your diet today. Let's hear it. What do you eat today. I guarantee you ate something bad this morning for breakfast guaranteed.
Starting point is 01:38:44 No I had I had two eggs and bacon no carbs. I had one piece of turkey jerky so you're on no carb diet. Yeah. Okay. So you don't you can eat bacon and egg or anything. All right. So you come in maybe you will have some abs and you'll have arteries that are clogged like a rock.
Starting point is 01:39:02 All right Pete you're the best man. We appreciate it. All right. Thank you as always. Thank you Pete. All right. See you. See you man.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And now for something completely different. All right. One question with a quarterback time we welcome on recurring guest friend of the program and soon to be playing in the national championship on Monday night it is TCU quarterback Max Duggan Max congratulations incredible game we're turning we're we're we're moving on to the next game but we're going to first do one question with you from everyone here. My question is very simple. One to 10 how much does the hip no toad help you guys out on the field.
Starting point is 01:39:48 10. Absolutely. Yeah. And we if we didn't have it I don't know we would have had the season that we're having right now. Honestly. Yeah. The powers you know the things that they talk about I mean kind of trippy but you know
Starting point is 01:40:02 it works. Yeah I mean it's every time I see it I'm like well that's that there goes that game like TCU's got it. If you weren't a believer before you're damn sure believer now yes yes 100% yeah you got to be on the train now. Yep. Okay. My question is at this point you're reaching the national championship game in college football
Starting point is 01:40:23 you're the quarterback of one of the teams are you the best redheaded college football player of all time. Oh there are Andy Dallin might I'm on Andy Dallin to TCU and he was in the legends so I mean I don't know the other red heads that are on college football but you know that might be a goal to kind of reach you know like those guys though Andy is still kind of the legacy at TCU that I'm still trying to be like so. Right he walks so that you could run but I was going through the list earlier and it's like you could maybe consider Carson Palmer to be a redheaded guy.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Some people would say it's more of like a strawberry blonde type deal. I think I think if you win this game there can be no more debate. You are him. Yeah. Yeah. That would that would be that'd be something special and maybe we need to start getting more redheaded you know playing quarterback in college football in the NFL you know representation we're dying slowly which is not good.
Starting point is 01:41:22 You know what's actually you know what who's actually sneaky redhead Spencer Rattler. Yeah that's true. Yeah he is. He is. So there you go you got a couple out there. All right Billy go ahead. What's up Max. Reports on TikTok say that you're licking your fingers to get the frogs hornier.
Starting point is 01:41:37 You know if the report says that and it's helping us win I'm all about trying to get us to win. So if that's what it is man I'm going to keep it going. Reports confirmed reports confirmed Billy's about to drop some fire when it starts with reports from TikTok say yeah hip no toes getting licked off nose apparently yeah absolutely our Jake. Hey Max Jake Marsh part of my take podcast congratulations on reaching the national championship game similar to Big Cat's question how much of a hot seat does your current mascot the
Starting point is 01:42:09 super frog feel that he could be eventually replaced with the hip no toad moving forward. You know I don't think super frogs on the hot on the hot seat. I think it's more like a brother you know with the hip no toad I think it's a very fun entertaining cousin that you have you know that's always come into the the barbecues. I think that's kind of where we're at no hot seat you know they're they're super far is not going anywhere. Yeah Dave did mention because he's at the game that he just got hip no toad into death and the and the TCU I actually have experience from it from the 2011 Rose Bowl Wisconsin
Starting point is 01:42:44 versus TCU Andy Dalton you guys just fucking doing the hit the frogs in my face the whole time I was like get this fucking out of my face I can't do it I got it yeah the frogs like the best hand sign or whatever you want to like hand it really is I like to go wide with it I like to make it the toad showed and give it a little bit of yeah well that kind of looks like to a oh yeah yeah all right be careful be careful all right our Max hey Max Max here do you kind of wish you could have played in the Arizona Bowl instead of the college football playoffs. I mean I was watching it it looked like a pretty fun time like you know Dan singing
Starting point is 01:43:26 National Anthem I was watching the broadcast you know Dave Dan you know Jake you guys were doing awesome obviously all the sideline interviews with Caleb you know seemed like a pretty fun game to be a part of yeah it was yeah I think you I think I think I actually will say that Ohio is the true national champion because that was it was a crazy ending it was crazy ending greatest catch in college football history some are saying some are saying yeah some are saying memes do you have a question what's your hand size good question I have no idea yeah let's see hold it up can you hold a pen in it okay I have a mouse yeah put a mouse put a mouse oh yeah okay that's pretty good hand I don't think I don't think they're
Starting point is 01:44:15 like giant I don't hopefully they're not small though yeah I I'm not gonna ask a question because I already used my question but if I were to ask another question it would just be are you able to hold on to a football in bad weather easily but I didn't ask that you didn't ask that did not ask that without asking me just thinking about the randomly I think so obviously playing in Iowa you get a little bit of cold weather yep true okay true true it's been alright though you know I haven't had to use any gloves so far so I mean that's we'll see it you know if I have to get to that point but maybe just maybe just treat out a picture of you like eating lunch holding a hot dog and we can judge on that all right
Starting point is 01:44:54 it's fair okay all right and then Max do you have a question for us okay um yeah for you guys okay right what is the dream like championship sporting event that you guys get it like could go to and be at live like whether it's masters national championship Stanley Cup finals World Series dream championship event that you guys go to yeah that's a good question I think I mean I think it would be bears winning a Super Bowl because that's it you obviously a losing game would be the Super Bowl is the number one Super Bowl would be great I was thinking like if it was a Stanley Cup some place really fun like maybe in Las Vegas yeah and then you go out and you party with the team you drink from the cup that seems
Starting point is 01:45:44 like the best possible scenario if that could ever happen to me oh my god I would be so happy masters would be pretty sick too like yeah it's coming down like 18th green masters like Augusta hmm if you have the front row yeah on the last Stanley Cup like overtime three three game seven I actually I'm thinking about like what would be the best games to be at I that Villanova buzzer beater would probably be up there just because a buzzer beater is like oh yeah a buzzer beater to win a national championship or a buzzer beater win an NBA like that would just be all time a true buzzer beater you know would be great like a buzzer beater at the Olympics in basketball where the USA wins yeah that would be pretty
Starting point is 01:46:25 cool because then you get the whole actually like if the USA ever won a World Cup that would be an incredible game to be as well that would never happen or the I did a ride because then right after it's over you just see just boop all the yeah boys or Joe or Joe Carter walk off home run to win the World Series yeah that's pretty good to that would be there's a lot anything that's the finale yeah like the way to end the game overtime goal to win a Stanley Cup that yeah okay that's a good question yeah what's your answer I would say probably Stanley Cup games on the glass overtime I don't know there's there's there are a lot though like I don't know I think that that'd be kind of like the most
Starting point is 01:47:06 like whatever like adrenaline rush ever so my stadium maybe for the national championship and maybe yeah not to name names but like let's just say hypothetically Sonny Dyches is like hey my quarterback actually can run and we have like overtime you know fourth and goal let's use him and not use a running back here like something like that I think the best possible position would be like under center as your team is winning a national championship and you're you're putting one knee on the ground on the field that would be a pretty good field formation's best formation in football yeah yeah okay well Max best of luck we're rooting for you I am very much so the dream season continues Monday night
Starting point is 01:47:52 TCU vs. Georgia we appreciate it man and yeah good luck on Monday night we'll be watching obviously yeah I appreciate y'all having on and you know we didn't forget about that pizza party hopefully we get a win oh that's right yeah I got a couple tweets I got a couple tweets being like you're about to have to give a big pizza yeah that's gonna be shit that's a lot of that's probably like ten thousand dollars worth of pizza that we got I will absolutely I yeah I'm a man of my word when it comes this is what happens all the time on this show is we just get really into things for a while we just suspended people left and right until it got out of hand now we're just obsessed with pizza parties so this would be a fitting ending
Starting point is 01:48:28 to this new kick that's also I mean look we you know we'll see what happened to the game but there's a way for the pizza party to pay for itself true we're gonna try to make something work for y'all yeah I can deliver them and make sure they get there no he's not allowed to deliver him we'll have Jake come and deliver him he'll just be looking all across the campus to find a toad to fuck like where these toes I need these toes all right thank you Max and hopefully we'll see you for the pizza party yes sir appreciate y'all okay we're rooting for Max we do have to do we ever figure out how much pizza we were thinking it's gonna be something like four thousand dollars okay pizza that's not not as bad as I thought it was yeah we
Starting point is 01:49:08 listen back I believe it was 150 pizzas hundred pizza is something like that hand deliver we said we're gonna hand deliver we didn't say that okay so we got a double time but yeah yeah we'll get around that number I'm rooting for TCU are you ready Hank so everyone who's been listening to the show for a long time we had a bond we had a we had a period of time it started started one two okay so it's been exactly year we had a period of time where we were bonking each other it got out of hand we decided that Hank is going to just create a bonk list yeah where he keeps track of all the bonks and now that it's been a full year he's ready to give it to us so you're gonna do this every year now yeah I think this year I'll do a better job keeping the
Starting point is 01:49:54 notes because I mean I don't know people are either gonna be disappointed or think it's funny I think some of them are funny but some of them like there's just no context no context bonk yeah I like it yeah because you know it's in the middle of the show PFT when I was talking about doing this the other day PFT was like I didn't think you actually kept the list yeah I stopped seeing you write stuff down after like I've seen him do it I assume you gave up yeah I know though if anyone else read the list it would make no sense I don't think it makes sense to hang right right okay right I just look can I just take a look no no no it's fine okay I'm gonna read read exactly what I've written it's not like there's a lot of again no context how many bonks total uh a lot so these
Starting point is 01:50:33 are officially the horniest moments of PMT 2021 and there's definitely some messings that people will get I think people will probably be more upset whatever can we do real bonks with the bonk sticks no uh all right one one two one two twenty two PFT brings up obj fisting a guy out of the clouds yeah it was actually a highlight where he tried to punch a guy in the butthole yeah so I figured it was it was sports worthy to talk about I don't think we should try to defend these okay all right no I mean that one I will defend though because it was in the context of a sports show there's a sports podcast after all I think we should just yeah we should just enjoy the bonks and he loves shit he loves poop yeah one four twenty two big cat brings up Tristan Thompson's sex
Starting point is 01:51:13 tape mm yep it's a good one he's got a good stroke game uh on one seven twenty two someone said wait what what what order are we going wait would you say one maybe he's not right okay okay sounds like we're pretty boring on this yeah no it gets it gets less than the yeah it's kind of I kind of eased up uh one seven twenty two someone said it's going to be a soft opening and PFT said that's the best kind of opening okay that's true what you want to you want like a metal gate uh on one ten again context I don't I just wrote turning my COVID diagnosis into a love story with AOC and it's with a PFT tweet uh oh okay here it is I said I have COVID one ten twenty two PFT said hmm so does AOC oh okay okay uh one eighteen twenty two big cat tells Braxton
Starting point is 01:52:06 Berrios he's a good looking dude yeah okay yeah I stand by that he's a he's a hot dude he's a hot body also on one eighteen twenty two PFT and big cat both say they want to fuck queso yep yep yep that stands these are good ones might have been the context of an FMK yeah but yeah regardless I would have sex with queso mm-hmm no see that I wouldn't put that on the bonk list if it's an FMK yeah that's true yeah no I'm standing by all my balls I would fuck queso yeah uh two nine twenty two PFT likes an adidas tweet that was just a bunch of tits yeah I remember that that was a good tweet uh two ten twenty two PFT followed every person named brandy on instagram just in case one of them was cojo's wife oh okay just doing some investigative research that one that one's made
Starting point is 01:52:56 up I never like that why would I write this down I you might have done that you might have said you were gonna do that you definitely said you're gonna do that that's how I got on the list I did I never did that no you might not have done it but you said okay got it okay two twenty five PFT calls britney renner a personal hero of his with coach prime yeah that sounds right uh three eight PFT asked all women to DM him if they're upset about erin roger stealing their shine on international women's day okay yeah uh 313 big cat tells john rostine his wife is hot to his face and then tries to take her out on a date wife swap but john rostine deserves to be you know it's full court press if we want to do basketball terms john full court press uh 322
Starting point is 01:53:50 pft calls meet ranch a euthanism for cum okay 327 big cat calls coach k his wife sexy in quotes when nicky krasetsky rolls up looking all hot uh 327 pft brings up a nip slip during the oscar's slap conversation oh okay yeah uh big cat says he will skull fuck tim dylan i think that was a tweet oh i have skull fuck for him i will skull fuck for him let's pull up the tweet i did link the tweet i think he needed a skull yeah no you said i will skull fuck tim dylan just say the word oh okay that's a fucking a man situation oh yeah okay yeah i will skull skull fuck tim dylan i'm not his type i don't think uh 331 pft says he wants to get slapped by a girl in new orleans yep uh check four two this is where my reporting might be not the best it doesn't have a
Starting point is 01:54:46 name it just says four two says he doesn't think coach k his wife wears underwear i'm gonna go with i don't know that might be a pft i think that was me i think that was me i remember that yeah she is a good-looking lady though it's very hot imagine how much he's tearing that up now he's retired you know what i think it was when she like uh verbally or sorry not physically abused her grandkid and i was like damn yeah choke me the way she's doing that yeah uh 47 pft says the new mlb bases are really getting him going they're bigger what can i say they're thick as hell 424 the cat says luke has a wagon of an ass he does he does that's why he's good five pft says sometimes he randomly google searches coaches wives you want to know right
Starting point is 01:55:37 one point oh you want to know uh five seven pft says he loves all moms on mother's day 512 big cat mentioned boners when we talked about bones moving again context couldn't tell you yeah uh 515 pft says the suns needed aj today's at halftime yeah he's been dead he's been hitting that aj titties button 527 pft says he hates teeth oh okay all right i think most people do but yeah i could do without him 531 i mean yeah uh 531 pft says he wishes there was a boob in top gun that yeah that's my only criticism yeah should have been a bush one nipple that's all i wanted six got everything else in there 620 big cat says he can't wait for baddie south to come out oh yeah that show yeah you guys shame me so hard remember i saw that preview
Starting point is 01:56:29 there was like ripping each other's hair out of their head and just going absolutely crazy on each other i never actually washed it i'd like to put that on the bonk this year i'm gonna wash baddie south uh call back again theme here 622 big cat says lucid donchage is a super attractive dude i like his i mean i like everything he's got going on he's got the dude he dropped 60 the other night yeah he's he's got the ass he's got the cool tattoos accent yeah everything drinking a beer before the game he's a fucking cool dude he's a cool dude i'd like to spend some time with uh here's no a little better uh 629 big cat says the phrase wild thing and pft tries to bonk but big cat says it's actually a bonk on him what was the wild thing again and you were thinking
Starting point is 01:57:14 wild things the movie yeah yeah so that is a bonk you want me to keep track this year with context yeah i like i i kind of like hey well the beauty of a better job yeah you do back up context so we can with two sources okay yeah it'll be good because i'm but we don't have anything yet right no no no we have not well you can put me on for uh future baddie south we'll also we'll we'll try and do better with time samson make a video of yes yes uh july 5th big cat talks about siphoning gas that's all i wrote i don't i want siphon gas in college and i ended up drinking a lot of the gas for my moped yeah you gotta suck it out with the hose but i think that's it comes out faster that's a bonk on hang that is for thinking that was sexual you liked big cat was just trying to save money
Starting point is 01:57:57 i was talking about a story how i tried to siphon gas when i needed needed some gas for my moped and it comes out really fast and i swallowed a lot of gasoline you just like the image of a hose wrapped around my lips listen i'm i'm gonna read the bonk on hey hey jake jake put that on the bonk list for next year yeah hank imagine big cat giving head to a hose to hanks hose 714 pft mentions cam girls while going through a list of cams going through a list of cams when discussing cam smith and cam young in the open top g sorry sorry for being a top g uh 721 pft says he wants a breakfast crunch wrap to choke him out with a dog leash and then throw him into an active volcano peg me with a frozen popsicle made of bahab last nice and then parentheses
Starting point is 01:58:41 i wrote cosine yes good that's how that's how good the crunch wrap is uh pft 723 pft says he wishes the statue of liberty was lower cut and had more cake in her cheeks yep uh 731 pft says jane jettson was an absolute fox okay it's fact fact uh 731 quote i love when jerry jones inserts himself in any way big cat followed by a bonk by pft and then said that's a u bonk so that another yeah disambiguation yeah uh pft 731 pong with bonk sometimes it's like a smell to delta so in that case big cat was probably not being horny yeah and you did and i yeah you just i think are we finding out that you might be the horniest on the podcast there's been a pretty we got time it's been going back and forth all right uh big cat says now we just do hand jobs get
Starting point is 01:59:36 more people coming when talking about how we don't say suck our dicks anymore oh okay yeah yeah uh eight nine big cat says he'll let billy pee in his mouth in order to complete the food challenge okay uh 817 pft says zack wilson is going to ball out versus alliance because he knows eight and hundreds his milk mom will be in the stands uh nine one big cat says he kind of likes the people who jerk off on trains i do i mean i think that they're just living their best life by the way jake's been making a disgusted face to every single one of these guys is it good on nine i defend that billy making his first appearance on the list nine eight billy says he wants to be put in solitary confinement with just a dildo
Starting point is 02:00:24 yeah makes sense uh 9 11 memes post picture of driscoll's huge ass yeah jeff driscoll's huge ass never forget he does love that picture he loves that picture yeah i only see that picture from our i know i know it's a for me we don't know it's jeff driscoll's huge ass and he's it's kind of it's wet so you can kind of see through it's such a weird pick why don't you post that on 9 11 yeah i don't know 9 18 pft says his throat is wide open and to shove it into robert solowan talking about jet's win that's the receipts receipts receipts oh yeah we gotta we gotta circle back on the receipt actually 10 16 a couple bunch of receipts now this was why this is again 10 16 big cat and pft say their mouths are wide open for robert solow okay uh
Starting point is 02:01:10 10 16 again miss miss bad labeling here i don't have the name thought so choose your own adventure for who thought that my satirical hailey bieber salina gomez was horny when it was just regular satire also not mad that he got called out for it i'm gonna say that's me yeah i wasn't mad you're ready you got that one right yeah that part's right i'm still not mad uh pft says he would suck a dick to play in billy mcfarlane's festival 10 24 okay 11 2 big cat mentions pogs and billy thought he was talking about pogs i'm sorry about the fucking little game we played in like the late 90s with the what were they just milk caps caps yeah and the slammers and billy was all horned up tectile pogs uh 11 17 pft says joe burrow is way
Starting point is 02:01:59 hotter than kenny picket when they both have girl filters on okay yeah uh and then 12 28 big cat says he's ready to donk it up for the arizona bull broadcast with the illustrator oh yeah that was a final bonk of the year yeah you got one in yeah i did all right so what was the final tally i think pft ran away with that i would say i ran away with that i'd say i'd say it felt like it was three to one every i think we've got a good uh we're red blooded american male podcast yeah we got testosterone yeah sorry for being masculine we won't apologize for being guys yeah you win the bonk all right bonk really loves this fucking thing all right i mean i got from amazon yeah all right i've been bonked all right good job hank i think that's a great way of doing it
Starting point is 02:02:46 so we'll be better detailed uh the bonk forward me out me and i'll just i'll just give jake my notes and he can uh whatever you what do you put them into a format when you like search for a research paper wait did you just drop a bibliotech like you the spanish word bibliotech we're excited we're excited yeah bibliotech a bibliotech a library bibliotech you can you know don't day a star bring put it in your albanyo bibliotech uh okay time for numbers so have you splashed the pot uh no i thought we're doing sundays no well we should start sunday right 20 yeah 20 bucks so let's start with everyone just owes 20 bucks right now because it would have been sunday
Starting point is 02:03:32 i'll give me this yeah everyone just give 40 i'll splash the pot for friday but i don't know that this counts for pot splashing oh yeah this counts it's only sunday so you're not putting anything in here not till sunday i thought we were doing sunday why not today we're about today no we didn't do it we didn't do it on sunday no it's once a week okay okay 20 makes yeah yeah i i thought it was every time all right thanks not gonna i'll splash the pot for you thank all right i'll splash the pot but yeah all right go ahead the pots at 120 dollars everyone owes 20 dollars the pots at 120 dollars if they win it's 240 because hank will have to match and you still are never gonna get it i'm gonna splash it i hope he gets it right now
Starting point is 02:04:09 so bad 17 69 uh 23 57 20 18 confirms baston it's over yeah it's over actually i'd like to change mine to 54 yeah all right so what was your what was your number hank 54 23 have you forgotten this no shout out parker titsworth gave me a jersey arizona bull star this is the first time i'm actually rooting for hank i think it will be awesome it would be incredible it is completely flipped on him 57 it's sentimental to me uh my friend of mine uh has uh brand new babies in his family so i did the birthdays of both the babies 27 oh new new yes oh now it's a yes race against time lottery ball versus hank man versus machine 626 29 27 has entered the chat wait so 626 29 is it yep so 97 of the 100 numbers have been picked wait what's the
Starting point is 02:05:14 thing again if all 100 with all 100 get picked before hank i think hank should owe us money i think we should i think if all 100 get picked before no sorry it wasn't deal deal yeah let's do that it was uh if you did all 100 and everyone besides his number was last you like no i think what we should do is if the lottery ball machine picks every single number and hank still hasn't gotten it right we have to build a human-sized lottery ball machine and put hank in it what if he just picks one of the numbers though i've had so many people oh yeah me asking if 27 was in the thing yeah here they are okay i i actually think hank should have to get a three is no longer in hank you should have to get a tattoo of the number that beats you if this lottery you should
Starting point is 02:05:55 it should be like a lottery ball that you get tattooed on your body somewhere so 626 29 the numbers remaining you should have to get a tattoo you can't guess the number i will if it's a 29 ball you should have to get an orange don't ping pong ball that says 29 on it okay so you're gonna get a tattoo yeah i mean i'm sure if i don't guess well i mean i guess it also comes other people could guess the number first sure mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm let's do one more does it count doesn't count hank go ahead guess just it doesn't count yeah no yeah
Starting point is 02:06:39 51 should i tweet uh something that's never happened before just happened with the lottery ball yeah people would be so mad all right we'll see everyone friday love you guys shout evan lassiter it's his birthday today and he's currently battling the hospital for a teammate what up uh and uh horn frogs are actually not frogs they're losers talking away i don't know why i'm just saying i'll say it away today is another day to find you shine away i'll be coming for your love okay i'll be coming for your love okay i'll be coming for your love okay needless to say
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