Pardon My Take - NBA Draft, MLB Trades, Mt Rushmore Of Things We Yell At Our TV Plus Runner Craig Engels

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

A wild day in sports we start with MLB trades as Scherzer and Rizzo get traded. (2:55-12:40) NBA Draft and Russell Westbrook to the Lakers.(12:48-26:08) Olympics talk and Simone Biles made everyone lose their minds.(26:09-41:08) Mt Rushmore of things you yell at your TV while watching sports.(43:28-1:06:05) World class runner Craig Engels joins the show to talk about narrowly missing the Olympics, how much running sucks, and RV's. (1:02:51-1:29:44) We finish the show with Fyre Fest of the week. (1:31:01-1:51:39)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have a ton of sports to talk about. A lot of topics, a lot of things. The draft, MLB trade deadline, the Olympics. We're not going to talk about quarterbacks. We have a lot of things to talk about though.

We also have a great interview with world-class runner, Craig Engels, who missed the Olympics by a few seconds. But he is the king in our hearts. We talked to him about Olympic running before Track and Field gets going next week. We also have the Mount Rushmore of Things We Yell at our television while watching sports. A great Friday show for everyone. Before we do all of that, we are brought to you by our friends at Roback.

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Today is Friday, July 30th. And I don't really know where to start because there's so many fucking sports things going on all at once. It is absolute madness. I picked a terrible week to go on vacation. We picked a terrible week to go on vacation. But I mean, where do you want to start, PFT? Well, just a motion to not even acknowledge this as Friday.

This is not a Friday for us based on what's just happened in the world of sports. Like this is, all our best baseball players are no longer playing baseball for our favorite baseball teams. That's the easiest way to say it. Obviously, like Chris Bryant, it looks like he's going to the Mets, right? Who knows? He's soaked in his last minutes at Wrigley today. It's a foregone conclusion.

I know it's gonna happen. It is, it's okay. So I've been thinking about it because I had a few hours to process this. There's the business side of baseball, which I fully understand. And then there's the sentimental, your heart, the guys you root for, the guys you love, that we've talked about a million times. We are a rational sports fans. A love for a player makes no sense really when you actually break it down because like,

what do you care? But I care and you care. And watching Anthony Rizzo get traded to the Yankees and watching him take his last lap with his cute fucking dog, Kevin, around Wrigley and the Ivy, it broke me up. And it sucks. And I understand the baseball side of it because they need to trade guys when they don't know if they're going to be here at the end of the year and you've got to rebuild.

But goddamn, does it suck? Well, I don't think it's a rational at all to like, to be sentimental and emotional about baseball play, especially like if you've, as guys, we don't show our emotions. It's pretty much a rule. Like, unless you're watching somebody sing the national anthem, then you're allowed to cry. Or if you're like so mad that you throw something at your TV because of sports. Those are really the only time that as guys, we show our emotions.

But when you see a player that like wins championship for your city, like Chris Bryant did, like Max Scherzer did, and you can see them also starting to get emotional when they achieve like this great goal to bring home a world series. And they seem to like the city that they're in. And they show you like a little bit of that same emotion that you give to them back. You feel like you're not wasting your life by caring about sports so much. And so you like share a moment with those guys. And it also like reminds you of a moment in time of like,

okay, I remember this postseason, how happy was the ups and the downs, the highs and the lows. And then you get jealous when they go and they put on another man's uniform. And they're playing for another team. And like you see other fans starting to root for them. And you're like, no, no, that's my guy. You can't like, I feel like I'm getting cucked by another fan base, like the entire city of LA getting Trey Turner and Max Scherzer. It's a bad feeling.

But I don't, I feel like they don't deserve them yet. They didn't go through the bad times with those guys. Well, so that's, that's what it's more. I mean, obviously the good times are the best and you remember those. But like Anthony Rizzo, for me, he turned everything around. And I, you know, I had season tickets. I was sitting there while I went to 60 games in 2013, 14 when they're losing a hundred games a year.

And it's like he was the guy who started the turnaround. He was the catalyst, catalyst. He was the captain, even though they refused to put a C on his chest because the rickets are fucking losers. But those, it's the bad times to get to the good times. Those type of guys are there. I remember going to Chris Bryant Day, I was so happy. I was so drunk.

Barstow, Carl and I were in Wrigleyville in 2015, blacked out at like, I don't know, 11 a.m. on a Friday because Chris Bryant, I think he struck out four times. I don't, I can't even remember. But like those moments to start bigger moments or what it's all about. And then yeah, it sucks. It just sucks. But I get the business side.

I'm not going to sit here. I think it's foolish if you sit, if you, if you're like, Oh, how could you trade those guys? Well, you know what would suck more is not trading them and having them walk in free agency and then having a really shitty product for a long time. It's more just, you know, it just sucks. It just sucks. That's to quote like someone like Billy football.

I think he would have a quote like that. Like it just sucks. Straight up, bro. Not having a good time. But if you look at it a different way, you can be like, Okay, yeah, we're trading them. We're getting some pieces back. Maybe 2022 is going to be sweet.

No, pieces suck, man. In the moment, like I don't care. I do think you're ignoring the sweetness of 2022. Yeah, no, I care. Like, Oh, okay, cool. We got some pieces, but prospects in baseball are prospects until like, obviously in the coming months, I'll start, you know, getting to know these guys, start ingratiating them into my life.

But like right now it's like, who cares? That's a name that is not Anthony Rizzo. Like you can't replace two 19 year olds with Anthony Rizzo. You just can't. So in the moment, I don't care. Like I actually kind of hate the instant like, Oh man, we crushed this. Like who knows? Who knows?

They're prospects. The guy who was drafted before Chris Bryant, Mark Appel, number one, one one overall, never pitched in the big leagues. You never know with these guys. You do know with an Anthony Rizzo or Chris Bryant or a Max Scherzer and trade turner, you know, because you've seen it and they've done it. So that's the part that kind of hurts. Uh, can I throw it real quick to Jake?

Jake, are you, does Anthony Rizzo have his pinch stripes already? Because I've demanded that. Yeah. He has them also because he's a fellow Broward County guy. Shout out parking. So we'll give it to him. There you go. Okay.

I don't know. I don't know. What's his dog's name? Is his dog named anything related to the Yankees? It's Kevin. He's dog Kevin, which is fucking an awesome dog for a dog name for a wiener dog. Maybe a wiener dog, Kevin. I think all dogs, they have better names if they're either named a human name

or if they're named like a plural of a noun. Like I met a dog named Biscuits one time and that dog became my best. It was like a pit bull with scars on his face. But he was awesome. I didn't care because he had the cutest name ever. Kevin is a solid name for a dog. I actually, I'm going to throw this out there. You, Billy named his, what, who'd you name your dog after?

Whitey? It was some kind of a race or race of people. White nationals? No, no, no, no, no, dude. Richard Spencer. So I have like, so there's like, you name your dog after old people names that don't get used anymore? So like, I had a great uncle named Whitey and that's just like not,

so like Whitey Ford, Whitey Bolger. It's like a funny name for a dog. No, we got it. His, your dog's name is, is Whitey. Billy, I'm just going to throw this out there. If you love me and I think that we've come a long way in the last couple of months, you will change your dog's name to Rizzo. Well, it's too late now.

No, it's not. No, because you wouldn't like that because it would just be a reminder of what you've lost. Billy should just name his dog after the job that he eventually wants to have. So like kind of like how we were. PMT host? Yeah, PMT host or seal. Just name it seal. Yeah, yeah.

Wait, can I throw my dog thing out there now with Billy? Yes. Yes, please. It's actually a perfect time, Liam. Okay. So Billy about, I don't know, two weeks ago just moved a block away from me and he went away for a couple of days and he paid an intern here to go watch his dog and never asked me. So I don't really know what to think about that.

No, he thinks that you can't take care of him. I just want to know why. I took one, I left for one night and it was a Tuesday night, which is a show night. I knew Liam would be editing and I didn't want to like make him come over to my house because I knew that would just be annoying to ask, especially just moving in. Like, you don't want to start asking for favors just immediately. I have a question, Billy, real quick, and we'll get back to sports in one second. This intern that you paid to take care of your dog, in the price that you paid, does that include

the three lizards in the hedgehog? No. Okay, so they just had to like go fuck yourself, take care of yourself, boys. They can, they can chill for a night. Okay, all right, thank you. I would love for a night. Wait, so you're just not feeding your frogs? No, you just leave them with a bunch of food.

Oh, got it. In your hedgehog? Bunch of food. You just leave them with a bunch of gold coins? Yeah. Okay. All right, so back to whatever we were talking about. Baseball trades, they suck.

And yeah, it sucks, but whatever, we move on. It just was a shitty day, shitty day. I told everyone to please not ruin my vacation. It's been ruined a million different ways, but that's okay. And if you're sitting here thinking that we're going to talk about QB situations in the NFL, I've made it very clear we're not going to talk about that until Sunday. I'll talk about everything else, but I'm not talking about QBC. I'm still hoping some people will retire between now and Sunday.

That's all I'm going to say. Yeah, yes. Did you see that he was, they have him playing safety now in practice? Perfect. He's like running scout team, wearing the red jersey. I don't know what they're going to do. The Texans, again, should just not play football this season, especially like putting Deshaun Watson, Rick Raleigh joke, Deshaun Watson at safety.

Wow. He always struck me as more of a cover zero guy. Oh, okay. All right, I'll give it a, I'll give 2.2 balls. It was the boobs. Yeah. Yeah. Or boobs, booze.

Sorry, balls, the ball scale is taking over the world with balls. Balls in the brain. Balls on the brain always. Okay, let's talk a little NBA. The NBA draft happened tonight. Shout out Kendrick Perkins to getting called up to the big desk. And he, I'm going to say right now, he stole the show by, I think it was like the second pick, maybe they, they threw it to him.

And he was like, Jaylen Green is going to be a great NBA player. Just look at his suit. And I was like, yup, Perk. Thank you. This is the analysis. Like I don't give a fuck about you showing me a few highlight tapes and being like, he calms out to this guy. We get similar to the prospects in baseball.

None of us know. Like we have an idea. Okay, coming in, it's going to be good. I bet my life on it. But like everyone else, I don't know. So yeah, if it's going to be like, hey, this guy wearing a cool suit or not, that's actually the analysis I want. I also like Jaylen, I like the analysis of Jaylen Green, but I like Kendrick Perkins a

lot because he seems to have aged like 35 years in the last three years. And he's just like, he's like an old dude, but he's, I think like what, 40 years old, something like that. But the coolest thing that he does, this is like a little life hack. If you can just use the word damn or hell in every sentence that you put out there on television, it still has that like old impact on my brain where I'm like, oh my god, they're cussing on the ESPN. This guy's cool as shit.

Where he's like, I don't know what damn thing about this guy, whatever the hell he's talking with. He goes back and forth from damn and hell, like Ray Allen going back from a clip to, what else does he look? It's his, from his penis to your switching back and forth. From his penis to his tongue. Yeah, to your tongue to the clip with the penis. But that's what, that's how he uses the words damn and hell.

And it's just, I always think it's pretty cool. You can just say that like Jaylen Green seems like the best prospect and people will think that you're smart about basketball because nobody watched any of the G league at night games. So if you just say like, I watched a lot of film on Jaylen Green, people will be like, yeah, this guy, this guy knows what he's talking about. I am concerned with Cade Cunningham though. And it's not just because in the game that I really sat down and watched, he blew it in that one game that he had, but it's also because he's vegan.

And that's that to me, like if, if you're a vegan going into the NBA, like Jaylen Green, he's 180 pounds, he'll probably be able to put on another like 20 in a good weightlifting program. Cade Cunningham is probably going to lose weight over the course of his career. So I'm concerned about that. And I'm also, I'm interested to hear what our resident nutritionist, Billy football, has to say about that. You can't trust a man made of plant proteins. That's his durability and his mental. Yeah. Yeah. You treated that, that at me when I, when I mentioned he's a vegan and you're,

you're absolutely right. I don't think, I think that's indisputable. I was a little kind of, I mean, it's, he moved like one pick down from where everyone thought he was going to go, but I do think Jaylen sucks is really fucking good. So that was a steal for the magic. Also, Woj just owns the world because it feels like every, like the NFL, everyone's so scared to tip picks. Woj told everyone what the first three picks were in the draft, which I, it wasn't exactly breaking news, but he did it at like two o'clock. He just was like, yeah, this is exactly how it's going to go. And it went exactly like that. And he's doing his little thing, you know, like this team is strongly, you know, is strongly interested in

them and then they get picked. So it's weird. This is, I think, I'm going to actually say it right now. I think this is officially the last event that is going to be off schedule, which I'm, I'm very happy for this to be over with because it does feel weird that the NBA draft is happening this late during the Olympics, all that stuff. Like I think this is it. I think we are finally back on schedule, boys. I think we did it. I think this is it. Am I, am I missing anything? I don't, I don't think so. Yeah. I think this is officially, officially it, where we finally, like the NBA season obviously went a lot deeper. The draft got pushed back, but now we're here and now it's over. We're back on a regular schedule where things happen at the regular time

and we all can get our clocks synced up and it feels good because I was sick of it. I, I like having today have the NBA draft and like came out of nowhere for me. It's like, fuck, what's going on? Everything's going on at the same time. So it's, we've made it. We've made it boys. Yeah. I just had one fun trivia question. So I've been, I've been keeping this one in my back pocket for the last hour or so. See if you can solve this riddle of the draft. How many Duke players have been drafted in the first round of the draft this year? Okay. So I'm really happy you asked that because now are we saying Duke players that played at Duke or guys that said they might play at Duke, but then decided they'd rather get paid above the board by the G league

and not have to deal with coach K belittling them and taking away their jerseys and all that stuff. That's a good question. I'm going to go with the, with the first definition. So just all things considered, if you didn't ever play at Duke, how many players do you think got drafted out of Duke this year? Uh, zero right now. Zero as of right now, we're 17 picks and it's zero is the answer. Yeah, we're, wait, let me just double check. Are we still at 17? Trey Murphy, he went to Duke. No, no way. He went, he was ACC, played at Virginia. And he's actually from Durham, North Carolina. Oh, wow. His mom went to UNC. Check out the interview on the bench from this week. Oh, nice plug. Yeah. Alpha male. So you have more guys

from the city where that Duke's in that didn't go to Duke than actually played at Duke. Wow. How many guys players are dodging the draft? So zero Duke players in the lottery. How many guys in the lottery were on the bench? Well, Murphy was three picks off. So three, three. Wow. Okay. So are you guys the new, you're the new recruiting powerhouse in college basketball? I guess you have a point there. Grant to you. There's more. Yeah. There are more, twice as many players named Jalen that got drafted than even took a visit at Duke probably in this first round of the draft. The only other thing I had was off the draft was Josh Primo. You can't lose with a guy named Primo. That's such a great last name. So shout out to the Spurs.

Way to go. And also the Spurs. How long, actually, let me tell you this out there. How long, because we're probably going to not win a gold because pop, whatever. Fuck the Olympics. We'll talk about it in a second. The Spurs have not been good in a few years. How long does it take until we start questioning Spurs picks instead of doing the thing where we say, oh, it's a Spurs pick. It'll be great. I feel like I'm already at that spot unless the player comes from a different country. If it's a player from like South America or Eastern Europe, I'm like, pop does it again, strikes again. Great job. It's kind of what we do with the Patriots in the NFL draft is like, they get a running back in the third round. That's like the fastest player

ever to exist. And like, wow, how did this guy fall to them? So pop knows something if he's taking a player that I haven't really been able to watch any tape of. Yeah. And the first international guy that was taken in this draft was Josh Giddy from Australia. Really good guard, really good at passing, can't really shoot. Stop me if you heard that one before. Yeah. Does he dunk? Will he dunk? Shout out Ben Simmons. Dude, someone needs to fucking talk to Ben Simmons because he missed, he's not doing the Olympics because he says he's going to work on his game. We always joke about the guys who post the Instagrams being like, working on my game, like, look at me doing box jumps. Ben Simmons is the one case where he should do that. Like,

just throw up one random Instagram of you shooting threes. It would do a lot for your image. Instead, he's doing like Instagram stories of him laying in a pool during the Olympics of when he was supposed to be working on his game. He hasn't done shit. You don't even need to post a picture of you working out, like post a picture of you walking into your psychiatrist's office. Like, at least do a Photoshop of you sitting down across the room from Dr. Melphie and be like, really figured out some ways to get some stuff off my chest. Like, get people talking about you in a positive light. You could, you could post a picture of you tying your shoes in what looks like a basketball setting and people like, man, he's putting in the work. It's really anything

besides just laying in a pool or I mean, you could also take the option of just getting so blackout drunk every day that it starts to affect your short term memory and people even spend that into being like this. Okay, he's hitting the reset button on his life right now. This is good because he had something has to change with Ben Simmons. I actually was hoping that he was going to go out to the Lakers just to see how that dynamic would have worked. Who knows who's going to get him right now, but instead they got Russell Westbrick. Yeah, so Skip Mills, King's Day Kings tweeted, now the Lakers have a backcourt of Westbrick and Lay Brick, a nightly airball display. I am just so excited for this. This, I don't, it's going to be awesome to watch. It really is. And

I don't, I'm not a Westbrook hater. There are a lot of Westbrook haters. He's probably like the most volatile, you know, either you love him, love him, or you despise him, even though he puts up great stats. I'm somewhere like, I think he's good. Like, I don't think you should diminish the fact that he's very good at basketball. Yes, he does kind of suck at shooting. And yes, he will do things at times where you're like, what the hell's going on? I guess if you're a Laker fan, you're just like, well, it's the bronze team. So he'll at least fall in line there. But there will definitely be some moments where Westbrook will try to take over the game and LeBron will just stand there exacerbated. And it will be great to watch great VHR, as they said. Oh, I can't

wait till the first night where he goes like five for 27 from the field and just keep shooting and see how LeBron handles that. For a sneak peek of what we're in store for next year, I'd like to bring on a special guest. This is, this is Skip Bayless's initial reaction. He made a video where he's just staring into his camera, a message to LeBron James from Skip Bayless. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, LeBron, you just blew it. It was supposed to have no more fits with you than I would fit with you. This will turn into a desperate disaster. I know you are show the NBA world you can well across when KD failed to. Not happening. You will come to regret signing off on this deal.

He sounds like an evil supervillain. No, no, no, no. I actually think that that would make you feel good if you're a Laker fan that Skip Bayless is so adamant that it's not going to work. Well, my only question is, and they might play basketball differently in Los Angeles, so maybe you can help me out. How many balls do the Lakers play with? So, okay, they play with one basket. That was going to be the only thing I thought maybe if they had two, it might work. I actually think there was a dog on him. I hate when people go out. Here's the one thing I'm going to say about Russell Westbrook. It drives me nuts when people rip him apart, and I get it. I understand. There are times, like I said, there are times you're like, what is this guy doing?

Russell Westbrook fucking cares, and he gives a lot of effort. I really do think that if you look at it as it's LeBron's team, it's LeBron's city, it's LeBron's everything, he will make Russell Westbrook fall in line, and that in itself should work. It should work. I think it's kind of like, it's the opposite. I agree with you. I love Russell Westbrook. I'm a Russell Westbrook fan. He has bad night shooting, but he's an exciting player to watch, especially when he just decides to go nuclear halfway through a game and just explodes on everybody. I love Russell Westbrook. I think he cares so much that he's going to be the one that gets pissed off at LeBron. I think that he's going to see a couple of games in the middle of the season,

like LeBron doing load management or whatever, and Russell Westbrook is going to get pissed off about that because he might not think that LeBron wants to win as much as he does. In which case, we're going to be in for a little like, who's Batman? Who's Robin? Obviously, it's going to be LeBron, but Russell Westbrook, I don't know if he's going to be able to work in a system where he's very clearly supposed to be the Robin because he's a dog. Wait, Big Cat, you want your son to be like Russell Westbrook? Oh, yeah, yeah. I want my son. I want him to care as much as Russell Westbrook. Yes. I think actually the moment that you'll have first strife is when Russell Westbrook

steals a rebound from Anthony Davis and LeBron. When they're both going for a rebound and Russell Westbrook comes flying in so he can keep getting his triple double, that will be fun to watch. As long as you still have Caruso, I've got faith in the team, but it's going to be fun to watch how those guys get along. Okay, so moving on down the line, US soccer, dominate, cutter, go fuck yourself. That's it. That's all I got. Yeah, so I mean, another gold cup domination. The USA is at our best. We want it. When we get to play in tournaments that we make up, just so that we can put trophies in our empty trophy case, like we dominated the League of Confederations Extraordinary Cup or whatever that was a couple of years ago or months ago,

when was that? I feel like that was years ago. So we already beat Mexico for some hardware. Now we have to beat Mexico for more hardware. I'm actually counting this as the final SPFT. So, well, yeah, I mean, like two North American rivals of Utah and the United States. Yeah, it was rivalry week. I love that they can do this where it's like you have a continent playing for a tournament and then just random teams can basically pay their way in. So I was talking about it the other night in Qatar, which Iron Sharpen's Iron, they're hosting the World Cup. So they essentially were like, we need to play in a bunch of tournaments so that we're better. And they just bought their way into the Conquer Cat. That doesn't sound like the FIFA way.

Yeah, it's fucking awesome. It's fucking awesome. So wait, maybe this is us doing Qatar or Qatar. We need to figure out, we need to all get on the same page as Americans going into the World Cup to figure out the correct way to pronounce it and then all go the opposite way with it, because I'm sick of having both pronunciations be out there all the time. Is it Qatar or Qatar? I go with Qatar just because it's easier. Yeah, but then they were saying Qatar on here, but hopefully if we invited them into our very elite prestigious Gold Cup tournament, maybe they'll scratch our back a little bit with the World Cup. Maybe we'll get some of that good referee magic. Yes, yes. All right. And then we have the Olympics.

I actually, I saw a tweet that was so perfect. It was like, whoever decided that six hours of swimming every four years is the perfect amount, like credit to you because it's so true. Like that is the perfect amount of swimming. That's exactly how much swimming I want to watch. Six hours every four years. Bring back the body suits. That's all I want. Like, remember, they don't have the body suits anymore because in China in 2008, every single record got broken because people were wearing suits that like propelled them through the water at an unfair rate. And so now there aren't any more world records being broken because no one can beat the fucking 2008 Aquaman like costume records

that they put off. The Thorpedo. Remember the Thorpedo Ian Corp. Yeah, from Australia. He was a badass. What I miss about this Olympics is usually in swimming, you get something extraordinarily weird that happens only every four years. So sometimes you'll have everybody just decide to show up wearing a full body like latex gimp suit. And then they all break world records. Other years, you'll have people lining up ready to dive in. And it looks like Marv Albert has just gone to town on their backs with all the red circles that are like on their shoulders, the cupping phenomenon of a couple years ago. But this year, we don't really have any, any weird costume stuff going on. And I'm, I miss that a little bit about the Olympics. It's just the dude Caleb Dressel,

who spells his name weirdly and has sick tattoos and is, I'll just say, he's hot. He's very hot. He's a very attractive dude. And I'm proud that he's American. I also had an idea. I think synchronized swimming, I was watching it the other night. I think you should be able to, like you should get more points if you can add people. So like, if you can do a 10 person synchronized diving, it was sorry, synchronized diving. If you can do 10 people, you should win. Like if you can get 10 people to do it, because why, why two? Why are we stopping it to make it fucking three, four, five? So then it's like, all right, you can be perfect with two, or you can be 95% with seven. That guy, no, that team should win. Well, and I mean, they should also get

identical twins to be doing the synchronized diving. I feel like that's an absolute no-brainer. If your country has an identical twin, put them in the synchronized diving program as early as you possibly can, because they're going to have such a leg up, even if they're off a little bit, their physical similarities are going to like cover that up a lot. I also think that there should be a swimming event where it's like a 50 meter freestyle, but it's eight people that can't swim. And you just see who can, who can figure it out on the fly at the best. Who can, who draw, if you drown, your family gets the gold medal. Yeah, yeah, that's, yeah, you said you've sacrificed yourself to the Olympic spirit. I also want to point out, so the New Zealand rugby team,

they're the all blacks, the basketball team, they call themselves the tall blacks. The bad bitten team calls themselves the black cocks. Ooh, nice, nice. Just a little interesting, fun little nugget. Yeah. Okay. And then Simone Biles should we, I, so I've had some time to process this. I, I'm opting out of all discussion about Simone Biles simply because there's like, it's one of those discussions where it is either all the way on this side or all the way on that side, and there's literally no like nuance or actual discussion being had. And as soon as you see it happen and people start screaming at each other and, you know, it just becomes, no one's actually having a conversation. So I've opted out of all Simone Biles discussion because no one is actually

trying to change each other's minds. No one is having a discussion. It is just how, how much you can yell your side as loudly as possible. Yeah. So this is one of the circumstances where like, you don't, we don't have to have an opinion on everything. It's actually something that we have no idea about. Like we don't know what happened to her even. All we know is like the after effects of her decision and what her decision was, but nobody has any idea what was happening to her at the time. Like when, when Kevin Love talked to us on the show about his mental issues, he was explaining to us how if you have a mental health, like an anxiety attack, it actually does manifest itself in physical, you can see physical results and like physical

symptoms of what you're going through, which would make you unable to compete. People applauded him when he took that break. People applauded C.C. Sabathia when he was in the middle of a World Series chase. I think it was before the playoffs started and he took time off to address his mental health. We don't know what, what was happening to her. I just, I heard somebody say that she got the twisties. The twisties. Yes. So that sounds like zoomies. It's a horrible, horrible thing. Like essentially you just lose where you are in space and time. And like I was reading this article that some, some former gymnast says, yeah, oh yeah, I had the twisties and I broke like my back because I just, you get up in the air and a trick you've done a thousand times, you all of a sudden

don't know how to land it. And then you like do an extra spin or something. But my bigger point is like Simone Biles, you know, goes out of the competition. If you're first, like very first reaction is either to say she's a quitter or to say that she's the most courageous, like bestest goat of all time. You just, I don't know what to say to you because like nothing in life is like that. You know what I mean? There's some truth in all of these things. Like you just, no one wants to, like it just became so, so polarizing so quickly. It was actually one of the most polarizing things as fast as it happened. It was so crazy how quickly it became either she is the greatest of all time and that was the most courageous thing she could have ever done

or she's the biggest quitter and she's just great to USA, which those people like, dude, if you care that much about the Olympics, give me a fucking break. Like I joke about it, but like dude, could you tell me like what happened, how, how we did in the medal count in like the last 20 Olympic? Like who the fuck cares? Honestly, we won. Who cares? Yeah, but you don't win the Winter Olympics. I still watch it. I just don't care. It's, it's take culture, big cat. This is hot take culture that we've, that we found ourselves in the middle of credit to us. I would like to say actually that this segment on Simone Biles is probably the most courageous podcast segment regarding the, it's the most nuance. I would say we quit on it. Did we? Yeah, just quit on it.

But big cat, no, I think that we were not in a proper headspace to be able to assess the situation correctly. So we're actually giving more opportunities for others to make their takes and have their takes get more shine, resulting in a better hot take ecosystem for all. So I think you could consider ourselves heroes to some extent, especially what you just did by explaining the twisties. I did not know what the twisties were. It sounds, it sounds like I lived my life in the twisties. You just forget where you are on the air, like Malaysian air flight 370. Yeah, you know, it was fucking, that's kind of, that's kind of fucked. But yeah, the head is kind of fucked. Is that too soon? I've found it. Did it not get lost in space? Yeah, are you still missing?

Malaysian had the twisties and got lost in the air. Yes. Yes. Oh, so you went double down on that joke. Yes. Yeah. I read it when I was reading about it, I was like, well, this is something that's the other thing is, let's just be honest, like just, just as honest as we possibly can be about this whole situation. Anyone who commented right away knows nothing about gymnastics, except for like a very, very small percentage. Everyone else is just saying whatever the fuck they want to say, just so they can be heard. And it's like, I don't know this sport. I have no fucking idea what is going on. I don't know if they were going to win the gold. I don't know if they were eliminated. I don't know if she helped the team. She hurt the team. Who the fuck,

like you don't know. So it's just crazy to have that severe of a reaction when you know nothing about this sport that you watch like for four hours every four years. So the whole thing was insane. I do think that like, I think it's part of the reaction that obviously lessened was the idea that she had withdrawn from the team competition was going to be in the individual competition. Obviously she's not in either. So it's like kind of an egg in everyone's face who that was what they were standing on, like the immediate reaction of, oh, but she's going to compete in the individuals. No, she's, she's got some things that are going on right now. And to call her a quitter is crazy. So I don't know, I just, I was exhausted by the entire discourse. And I wasn't even involved.

Like I didn't even have, I didn't even put my toe into it. I felt like I was dizzy. I was getting dizzy from all the takes that were flying around to the point where like Lenny Dykstra had to take today. He took some time out of showing up at the Federal Reserve and demanding to get his money out of their account in New York City for that's a whole another story we need to dive into. But he said like, I respect Simone Biles decision, like athletes know that sometimes you deal with mental issues. And if you're trying to play a sport, but I was like, what the Lenny Dykstra is bringing nuance to this conversation? Like what the hell is going on? I got, I got the twisties in the conversation and the general debate around it. I do think it's very funny that, and this is,

this is the meatball in me. I find, I find humor in it. I'm not saying that I think like this, but the instant reaction of a lot of people to be like, well, I remember when I was in fucking, when I was 10 years old, and I struck out four times, and then I fucking got up there and hit a home run the fit time and my parents said, let me quit. Just a little bit different than what we're talking about here. Just a little bit different. Yeah, it's sports. And yeah, competition is good. I love competition. I think I do think there should be more competition. Like in the world, I think competition makes people better. But yeah, it might be a little bit different than like little Johnny striking out in T-ball versus the fucking Olympic golds. And this, and this gymnast

who's doing shit that like you couldn't even do in a video game. Like you couldn't mash the buttons fast enough to do it in a video game, let alone doing it in real life. To a certain extent, I don't want to say I like it, but it is, it's entertaining to me watching people, watching people break out those arguments of like, what they did when they were in high school, like on my high school hockey team, I was the backup goalie and I came down with a flu. And you know what? I was puking my brains out, but I still sat on the bench with my teammates as we won the state championship. And I learned a lot about myself that day. I love that. I love that everybody has deputized themselves as being ESPN pundits. Yes. Still one of the greatest callers

of all time was 670, the score in Chicago, when Derek Rose tore his ACL and he didn't in the whole year after when he was like, Oh, will he come back? Well, he won't. And a guy called it was like, I tore my ACL and I was golfing 18 holes nine months later. There it is. Point taken, dude. Point taken. Like I, I don't know what to say to that. You're right. Derek Rose should be out there playing basketball at the NBA right now. It is crazy that big cat right now we are on vacation and you know, this whole show is on vacation. So thanks again for for Bubba being here to help us produce a show. But it is crazy that you're on vacation right now with your kids and you're not practicing load management. And one day you do want to be able

to walk across the stage at their graduation. It's just something you should probably keep it in perspective though. Like don't don't push yourself too hard. Okay. Yeah. And listen, if you want to talk about a real quitter in sports, we're going to talk about Aaron Rodgers on Sunday. Got a lot to say about that motherfucker taking Blake Bordell's job. Blake Bordel, I'll do a little, I'll do a little teaser. My take on Aaron Rodgers, let's just say, I think I'm on his side. I think he's quitting on his marriage. I think I'm on his side. So we'll save that for Sunday, but just a little teaser. I think justice for in like actually on his side, not jokingly on his side. I think I'm on his side. There's one other Olympic thing I wanted to point out.

The Chinese powerlifter, the guy that weighed like 160 pounds and I think he cleaned and jerked 435 pounds total psycho. His Instagram is a must follow. You should check it out because all of his pictures are just him doing deadlifts and the caption on all of his pictures are my balls are okay or my balls are fine with a sunglasses emoji as he's putting up like world record deadlifts just electric follow online. I mean that we will shout out is what's his Instagram handle. Let me follow. I'll bring it on. While you find it, I'm going to set this up real quick. We have a Mount Rushmore coming up. You're going to hear a voice in the Mount Rushmore that you probably can't don't recognize in this episode until this point. It's because we taped

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Okay, Mount Rushmore time. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of things that you yell at your TV while watching sports. It's a good one. This is a really good one. I can't believe we haven't done this. I actually think that we probably have at least five or six of the same options. So I came up with a big list. Yeah, me too. There are some very obvious ones on here, but yeah, very contentious it's going to be. Okay, so same way. Everyone gets a number and then closest number gets to decide the order. Okay. Oh, wait. Oh, shit. We didn't guess. All right, let this run. Let this run and then we'll guess. This is a practice round. Let's see what the machine's feeling right now. I would have guessed 24. I was going to guess 30. Two. All right, Hank,

your guess. Just a number. 50. 50. 60. Jake and Billy. Don't you fucking do it. 69. Oh, there's five. That was a stupid guess. I just realized that was stupid. That was really stupid. I should have guessed 25. 82. All right. So what do you want the order to be, boys? Jake and Billy. I think this is, like you said, going to be a popular one. Same pick. So we'll go first. Okay. And then where you want to go? You want to go Hank and I'll come around? Sure. All right. So we'll go wrap around the room. All right. Here we go. Wow. You suck. Oh, go a negative first. Interesting. Was that your pick or was that Billy's?

That was actually on my list. Wow, foul mouth. We're going for the win here. That was one of the worst one one picks. It's pretty bad. Yeah. Like actually the worst. You might say. I'm going to just say it right now. People say it all the time. Why such a hater, dude? Yeah. Me? Jake. Oh, yeah, that's true. But I, I'm confident in saying and I no hate to you guys. Worst one one pick ever. There are people yelling at their radios right now. You suck. Yeah. You guys suck. I don't think you understood the prompt. No, he, no, he gets it. It was just, that was a blown pick. Okay. Bust. You know what? I'm calling right now. You suck as a bust. You guys just, all right, we'll see. I mean, you could still make up for it, but you don't think,

I don't have you suck on my list. No, I've never yelled you suck at a TV. Yeah. Yeah. I think I would yell you motherfucker. Yeah. Before I yell you suck. I lost my brain. Okay. Okay. You're just too polite. Yeah. That's also, yeah, that's like, that's like the peak of your swearing. So I guess as far as you'll go. Okay. I'm not a pander. So I'm just going to go with my heart. And the one thing I say most consistently when I watch games, basketball, obviously this is for basketball, but I say it sometimes for other sports is and one. Okay. I love the detail. You do. You yell it. You yell it. Not even when we're near a basketball. Yeah. No, it's, it's just, I love to say and one. All right. That's true. That is, I can,

I can absolutely attest to that. If you ever even, like I'm saying you do it when we're not near a basketball court, but then when we are near a basketball court, that's all you say. Yes. Yeah. All right. I'm shocked at this lasted to pick three easy one for me. Let's go. Okay. Anytime, anything good happens. Let's go. Okay. Clap it up. How many, how many O's did you have on your list? Three. Okay. I, yeah, I, maybe I didn't understand the problem, but okay. So I'll go, I have two. I mean, easy first one for me is ball whenever there's a fumble, screaming that at the TV. And then, uh, my second pick will be, uh, I, I always get, no, when we do the graphic, can we actually say, I say, I yell, watch out on the blind side. Whenever there's a quarterback

about to get hit, I yell, watch out. Okay. Cause you have to let them know that they're about to get hit. All right. That's pretty good too. Yeah. I just want that in parentheses that it's for a quarterback cause watch out makes no sense without context. Watch out to a quarterback about to get hit on the blind side. I have a similar answer, but it's, oh, okay. I like that. Yeah. You can, it can be the same. Yeah. Yeah. All right. My second one is time out. Okay. I'm like five seconds ahead of a coach and I feel super smart. I'm like, why isn't calling the time out here? Call time out. Time out. Time out. Yep. Okay. Hank, I'm, I just want to get back to these guys to see what they're going to do cause we're doing a great job. I will go with pick it. That's when

you're the, your team's on defense. Yeah. Yeah. Similar to anyone. I probably overuse it every time, you know, the opposing quarterback throws it before the, you know, anything happens. You're just like, pick it, pick it, pick it. Yup. Yup. The Malcolm Butler thing probably like put that in your brain for life. Like you can will players to have a big interception. Yup. Well, I was in the concourse for that, but sure. Yeah. Okay. People forget. Billy. Billy's now taking control of the team. Shoot. Yeah. Shoot it. Good. Good job. Welcome to the draft. All right, guys. My good back one track here. That's a good pick. Yeah. Now do you want to specifically, you want to say specifically a sport or is that just shoot? It's multiple sports. Yeah. Yeah. But

well, there's, there's different. What? Well, anything except football. But I think that someone could now say a specific shoot. I don't want to make it specific. I don't think so. Yeah. I think you could. You could. I think there's a very specific shoot. There is one specific shoot. I'm thinking. No, but it's the same for hockey and for basketball. No, but no, no. No, but it's the same word. So yes. Yeah. But no, but no, but yes, but there's one. We did a graphic. No. Take two. It's the same word. No, but it's the same one has more words. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wait, we get the second pick. Yeah. No, don't do it again. Pucks on net. Okay. All right. That's, I guess people say that you want that back. Oh, no, no. Do you want that back? Wait, we sent it to the podium. Shoot

the puck. Yeah, that's probably the more correct. Yeah. Shoot the puck is what we were talking about. So is that our official? No, you said pucks on net. That's a shoot in. What's our second one? Shut up. Pucks on net. Shut up. No, no, no, our second overall. Shoot it. Shoot it. Shoot it. But you're making us pick something, I thought. No, I said that shoot the puck is still on the board, I think. Shoot and shoot the puck are two different things. Shoot the puck is still on the board because they took pucks on net. Yes. Yes. What are you talking about? Just shoot. Just shoot. Period. Shoot. Yeah, that's yours. Yes. Okay. Right. Shoot the puck is different. You're talking about basketball. Shoot the puck is unoriginal. No, shoot the puck is what you yell when you're

watching a hockey game and there's a power play. Okay. I'll shoot it, but okay, whatever. Teach their own. Get in the hole. Okay. Okay. You do that? TV? Yeah. Okay. You actually know I do. Like an iron? It is a big in-person as well. I'm realizing with my list is I like to just like, even though it never really happens, I like to just always root for something to happen before. Like after the act occurs, whether it's shooting, hitting a golf shot. Yep. I like to say get in the hole even if I'm not like say and one, even if it's not and one. I like it. Pick it even if they're not going to pick it. Yep. I'm just trying to speak my ideal instance into existence. Got it. I'm just going to go with a nice, simple, clean. God damn it. Okay. Anytime anything bad

happens. God damn it. I don't think there's a better way of expressing disappointment while you're watching sports. Yeah, that's good. I guess I'm more, I'm trying to be more of a coach on the couch because my next two, I have two picks here, right? Slow it down. Big time, slow it down guy when they're, when, when, when like, you know, you're watching a basketball game and it's just fucking haywire everywhere. Just slow it down, slow it down, slow it down. Or if you need, you know, last shot or whatever. And then, ooh, this is tough. I have a pander pick that I will save for honorable mentions. Or do you want me to say it right now? Because no one's going to use it. Take it. No, I'm not going to, I'm not going to take it because it is a straight up pander.

I have one that's kind of a pander too. I bet you we don't have the same pander. It's probably, I would be shocked if it was a same one. I'm just going to say the pander, this doesn't count. Okay, all right, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Absolutely not. Fine. Just say it is one of your picks. No, this is my last pick. No, I want you to pander. No, no, no. You want to pander so bad right now. No, I actually, I'm totally moved on to it. I'm not even looking at that part of my list. You won't. Shut up. You won't. Shut up, Billy. I'm going to pander. I, okay, this is not my pander pick. But I do love to yell. And I think everyone loves to yell. Ball don't lie. Yeah, that's a good one. That's good value in the fourth round. Ball don't lie. Ball don't lie feels good. Especially

because you've been wronged. And now it's ball don't lie. And you are showing that you know a little bit about the history of the game. It's something that a basketball player would say. Right. All right. My last one. Not my pander. My last one's going to be shut the fuck up Mark Jackson. That is a pander pick. I mean, it's true. Yeah, you say it. And I don't know, Jim. I should have done that. Okay. No, the can I say that? Push, push. I mean, I've never said it to the TV, but people would definitely vote for I don't know how much like how how big of an audience do you think I think people would do it because that's all like people don't know f1, but they know we say push, push billion jaker at odds right now.

Okay. This is a good Mount Rushmore boys. Yeah, I feel like we're I'm definitely missing a couple, but the one that I had on my list out similar to yours big cat is just Blitz. Yeah, that's good. Scream out Blitz. Yeah, yeah. Are you saying Blitz like you're calling it out for the yeah. Like dial something similar to the watch out. Yeah, like you're getting your protection right for the offensive. Like you see it before. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I can't believe this one has been taken, but just what I'm going to preface it with no, no, no backing you up here. We made a pact to do two and two right. So this is my turn to take my second. But I think because you suck was yours. Yeah. I think this is redemption. Okay. So I'm taking one for the

team for what for that first pick that you guys hate it. You're really building this up to be a huge like care about what we think. So I'm surprised this one dropped so late in the game, but the classic everyone turn your volume down. Oh, if you're going to yell. Oh, Billy. Hold on. Do it again. So what is it? Any big shot? Any pick? Any home run? Any ball making contact? Everyone screams Oh, okay. I think three of us had a really good Mount Russell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're definitely there's actually I could go seven rounds on. Yeah. I have so many. I can't put this one to get picked. One of my favorite ones that maybe not everyone does, but I love yelling pass when you know it's

a play action. That's fun when you're like, you're, you're helping out the team. Well, along that same line, flea flicker, flea flicker, calling out the flea flicker. I'm really, really good at that. Hurry up is the opposite. Obviously slow it down. Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up right at the end of a game. What about, um, what about come on, come on, uh, go for it. Got to yell go for it. I have that guy on my fancy team. Yeah. It's always a winner. Poison. If you're a real football head on a pun. Yeah. I definitely yell that you don't yell that. I'm a coach on the couch. Yeah. I'm a coach on the couch or fire helps. You call, you call fire. Yeah. I had, I had cash and wet on my list as well. Oh, I like wet basketball was a good one.

Bullshit. Get out. Yeah. What about, um, yeah. Okay. Oh, for baseball, that's gone. Yeah. That's a miss. Yeah. What about, uh, see ya. Yep. There's no place for that in whatever sport you're watching after bad after dirty foul. Yep. Then, uh, the no, no, no, no, yes shot in basketball. That's always a fun one. Yeah. Uh, foul foul foul. Yeah. Mm hmm. Could you, one of you guys, uh, just for the graphics purposes, like how are we going to spell your last pick? Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, this was one. Oh, uh, then, then four O's, two H's. No, that's, oh, that's definitely one. Oh, and like five H's. Yeah. Yeah. I think if, if you're going, oh, it's got to be singular. Oh, I'll let you guys figure it out. This seems like a real

meeting of the minds. Um, what are you doing? Just a frustrated screaming. What are you doing? How about, uh, I fucking hate Andrew Siciliano. Yep. I hope he gets hit by a bus. I say not just for, I say this for everything, but I just say kick him off the tour dog all the time. Yeah, you do. Mm hmm. Just for like any sport. If anyone does anything wrong on the opposing team, go, go. Okay. That guy's still around. That's good. He got it. He, uh, I don't think I have any, anything else. Uh, get him. Let's get him. Yeah, you'll get him a lot. Yeah. Oh, I yell at screens sometimes in basketball. I'll yell like pick left, pick right. You know, you got to communicate with the guys. Oh, after an interception that gets deflected at the line of

scrimmage, you have to yell tip drill. Yep. Let everybody know that you used to practice football after an interception house it. Yep. To the house. Yep. To the house. House call. Yeah. Some variation of that. Dr. Paging. Dr. House. Oh, I used to, this is very specific, but I used to love whenever, uh, Devin Hester would return a kick and I just yell, he's loose. He sometimes he wasn't. It feels good. It feels like he's got, he's loose if he's, you know, yep. If he's got something, don't kick it to that guy. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Kick it out of bounds. Yeah. Also now would be a good time to fake it. That's a little extended, but I do like to just, you know, have my input there. Yeah. Or, um, uh, kickers have one job or a goddamn kick.

Actually, college kickers. Yeah. That's a good one to college kickers. Yeah. All right. Are we, do you guys, you didn't say, uh, the over's dead. Yeah. You say that a lot. Yeah, I do. It's dead. And I say it like two minutes in the game, two seconds. Yeah. Like pretty much the, you're over under counters on the second the game starts and it's, it's always pacing down. I could do a whole other Mount Rush more of just gambling reverse jinxes that I throw out there because I have, that's pretty much the entire game of like, well, yeah, thanks for coming out. See, uh, these guys are dead. No chance. Zero chance. We're going to blow it. Yep. Billy. Uh, we should do another noise. Well, we literally, that's the one noise everyone yells

on all of our gambling. I've never yelled. Oh, what is it? Give us an example, Billy. So what happens that makes you say, Oh, we're, we're watching the Nickelodeon game. Yeah. And there was a super long touchdown. Everyone just jumps up and is like, Oh, it's crazy. Yes. What? When Malcolm Butler intercepted Russell Wilson on the go, he was in a concourse. He didn't see it. I literally ran inside. Oh, you didn't see it? No, no, no. That's why he did it. That's why Malcolm Butler got that interception. Well, everyone just goes, Oh, people think it was Ernie Adams. Okay. Joe Rogan, when that dude got knocked out in that viral clip, he's just like, Oh, yeah, just a dude being stoked. Okay. Yeah. You're, you're selling me on it.

Everybody does that. Yeah. You're selling me on it slowly. I still can't believe it. Am I crazy? Jake, what else did you have? You suck. One one. I'm going to start saying that now. I had no, no, no, no. Yes. Shoot the puck. You suck. So were you mad when Billy said, shoot it or shoot? I think he should have. Shoot the puck is classified. Yeah. Go ahead. Shoot the puck. What else? Foul. Foul is good. These refs are terrible. Okay. But I respect them. Yeah, of course. And I could do better than him slash her. Like when someone's talking about a broadcaster. Whenever you said I could do better than her, Jake, when was the last time you said that one? That seems a little misogynistic. I have not said either. I'm saying the general. Oh,

it's bad. Oh, so that's what the thing is. You're telling us everything that's on my mind. Me too. Your entire list was a panda. Yeah. I literally sit there and just like, listen to the broadcasters. All right. No, I, Jake, yours should have been like, this guy's really good. Yeah. This guy went to Syracuse. Fun fact. Actually, you pronounce his name this way. Those are yours. Or you guys are so mean. Yeah. You say that a lot too. Stop it. I don't make me choose. Next time I'll do my personal one. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That was a good one. Good Mount Rushmore for the most part. You suck. Is it all time back? That Mount Rushmore was brought to you by our great friends over at BetterHelp.

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blame me. They said I jinxed you. I apologize. I'm still on the Craig Engels train. But yeah, you were in the Olympic trials. You're an 800 meter, 1500 meter runner. Unfortunately, finished fourth, but we're really happy to have you on. Talk a little running. Talk a little Olympics. Talk about your mustache and everything. Yeah, bro. Well, first off, I don't believe you cursed me, but some people were messaging me. Yeah, thanks for having me on. Hopefully, you can learn some stuff about running. I don't know how much you know, but... Well, yeah, we don't know anything. I mean, we know that how to run. I know that running sucks. Yeah, running does suck. So yeah, that's, I guess that would be my first question.

How much does running suck if you're really good at running like you? Marginally less than it sucks for you guys, I'm sure. I think at any level, running still sucks. And the worst part is it's the only sport I'm good at. I wish I was good at darts or literally anything else besides running, but unfortunately this is what I'm stuck with and try and make the best of it. But yeah, dude, the only fun part about running is actually like racing. Right. I would imagine, yeah, the practices, because you guys, even though you're 1500 meter, like how much, can you actually just break down what a regular week would look for you, like for you when you're training? Yeah. Yeah. I try and run like 70 miles a week.

There's some runners that run like 100 to 120 miles and that they're training for the marathon. They're kind of crazy though. So yeah. And in a typical week, I'll do like one long run, two workouts and then run every other day. We do two lifts a week. I don't know if you could tell, but yeah, looking jack. Yeah, totally. But yeah, that's about it, man. It's just, it's like, I honestly work like an hour to an hour and a half a day. And then I have to figure out what to do with the other 23 hours of my life. Now, I've heard about runners high. Is that real? Because that's really the only way that you could convince me to try running is if you're like, okay, if you get to a certain point, then you feel like you're on drugs. Well, I live in Oregon, so a runner's

high is a little different for me, but yeah, it doesn't happen. I honestly don't know what the hell people are talking about when they say that. I've never experienced it. I think it's just runners trying to convince other people that running doesn't suck. So they're like, yeah, if you just run enough, you'll eventually get high. It's like, no, I don't think so. I think it's just being tired. Yeah. It's just like I'm exhausted and I don't have any oxygen in my brain anymore. And my body wants to shut down. You're like, oh, I'm totally wasted right now. Run is high. It's pretty sick. Yeah. I don't want to bring up bad memories, but I mean, we should at least talk about it. So that race, you finished fourth. I thought, and I don't know anything about running. I was

watching it. It was 1am on a Sunday night. I thought that it was almost a conspiracy to box you out an elbow you. It felt like they were trying to keep my man Craig Angles down. I really did believe that. And again, I don't know anything about running. Dude, let's go with that conspiracy theory. But first off, thank you for staying up to 1am. Yeah. I'm not quite sure what your typical bedtime is, but I do appreciate it. It was, we were recording the show and someone happened to tweet me while I was like climbing into bed and they're like, Hey, your guy's running in 10 minutes. And I was like, well, fuck yeah, I'm going to watch. And then I just got mad. I was mad for like, I didn't fall asleep for another hour. Cause I was like, he got screwed. He got elbowed

out. No, dude, I honestly don't even know what happened. I did get boxed in, but that's my fault. I think I just like, I'm so dumb. I just don't, I've been running for 10 years and somehow still don't know how to knock it boxed it. So what, to explain that to us, like explain the thought process in a 1500 meter race, like positioning and you guys do throw fucking elbows, right? Yeah, bro. Not many, not many elbows. I think, I think people will complain and, you know, it's not a very physical sport, but I don't know, man. Your brain like shuts off until one lap to go. And then you're like, all right, this is go time. Like it's survival instinct. And I just got caught off guard from the, the defending Olympic champion took off and I missed it because I was

boxed in. They didn't want to see you in conspiracy theory, dude. Would you have Shekari Richardson to yourself if you had qualified? That would have been it, dude. Game over for her. So you've got, you have probably the best hair out of any runner that I've ever seen. You got the mullet working. You have the mustache going on. I read on your Wikipedia page that you were elected. You won best hair in high school. So is this something like you've had the mullet for a long time? Dude, did I win that? Who made up my Wikipedia page? I don't know. That's how we do research on this show. It's 90% bullshit. No, I didn't do anything. I'm big cats on my Wikipedia. Yeah. Oh, I don't know, man. We were, I went to Ole Miss actually. So like, we were down there

just, there's not much to do in Mississippi, believe it or not. We're like, let's make stupid haircuts, bro. So my teammate cut my hair and I was like, I can grow a mustache. Now, why not? Yeah, the mustache ties it together. I feel like if you had, if you had one or the other, it wouldn't work so well. But right now it's like, it's like buffalo wings and blue cheese. You've got a whole like ensemble going on. It's beautiful. I think you need a mustache if anything, man. I wish. I'm faceballed. I can't do that. So I'll just live vicariously through yours. He puts in the effort. Yeah. Effort counts. I just look like a child molester if I grow my mustache too much. So get a lot of weird looks. So how old are you? You're going to have another

chance? Like, is your running career, have you thought that far in advance? Yeah, bro. I'm 27 and most people get real good at running when they're like 30. Really? Why is that? Yeah. Yeah. So the Kenyan guy could be 45 but there's a guy from Norway. It's 19. That's crazy. So you do have like another chance. You're going to have another chance. Now, this might be a heavy question, but the thing that always is remarkable for Olympians to me is that you have to build up for four years being like, here's the moment and then the moment has to go right. So are you already thinking like four years from now? I'm going to do this. Like this is, I'm going to get my redemption because that will be, that'll be an all time story if you can,

if you can punch your ticket to the Olympics in four years. I guess, man. So in 2016, I was in college and I actually got fourth there. So I don't know if it's a curse, but yeah. So it's only in three years now. So I waited five years actually for this one to redeem myself and then I just blew it. It all comes down to four minutes. You know, it's crazy. Yeah. So that is nuts. But three years from now. Are you an alternate in some respects? Like, can we still hold on to a little bit of hope that if everything shakes out exactly perfectly, that you still might compete? There's a little bit of hope, but I kind of, I kind of, I've been partying for the last four weeks. The honesty there. You know what you should do. Okay, let's just write this one off. I feel like

you could be, you could actually do what Forrest Gump did in that movie. You seem like the kind of guy that would just like walk out of his front door and be like, I'm just going to start running and just go cross country back and forth back and forth. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I should take that as a compliment that I'm being compared to. No, you should. It's the greatest movie of all time. He's a great guy. Yeah. Yeah. He is a great guy. You seem like a lot of history. You seem like a dude that's just like up for an adventure at any given time. Hell yeah, dude. I mean, I'm down for anything, but running across the country sounds kind of boring. Yeah, that would suck. So wait, let's talk about I want to come race you guys. I'll be in New York. Yeah. No, we're

going to try to set that up because we owe the people a tandem bike ride. So we're not going to do that, but we're going to maybe race around a track. If we're on a tandem bike and you're running, do you think that you can beat us? 100%. Really? 100%. You didn't let me finish. It's a marathon. Okay. You're going to fall like 56 times. Yeah. That's probably all of my bike riding experiences on the stationary bike. So that doesn't necessarily translate well to track life. Wait, what if what if we had solo bikes? Could you still beat us? No way, dude. Okay. I'm not sure of your fitness, but not good. Okay. That that's a little bit more of my favorite, but probably not. I think that we can beat him on a tandem bike. I think if we get cooking on a

straightaway, he can't catch up with us. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. We can hit a mile, dude. Okay. What's your fastest mile time? I've run 351 so far. That's fucking insane. How fast do you think is going to be the fastest anybody's ever going to be able to run a mile? Because at some point it's going to you're not going to be able to get any faster, right? No one's going to be able to run a mile in five seconds. So what do you what do you think that that speed is for the human race? It's what it is now, dude. The mile world record is three minutes and 44 seconds. I think something like that. Yeah. Yeah. The dude with the mile world record right now was so juiced up in like the 1990s that like drug, drug testing. I mean, no one, no endopes anymore,

but this dude was just literally coursing with steroids. I kind of like that. I think we should have world records for steroid users. Like we really should see how far we have regular world records and then world records. How far can the human body be pushed with help of steroids? Yeah. Humans would just become like a horse. Yeah. That's cool. Awesome. Yeah. They started running on all fours and shit. The Minotaur Olympics. I would watch that. Actually, I wanted to talk to you about that. We, gambling should be in like track and they should do it exactly like horse racing. And I bet you we'd have maybe a little bit more like exposure for the, for the racing world. I mean, dude, you guys set it up. I'll be your, I'll be your,

like, I don't know, the guy who sets the odds. Is that a thing? Yeah. Yes. That is a thing. You're bookie. Yeah. They're bookie, but I work for Barstool. Yes. And you set the odds. I like that. Do you ever, do you wake up in the morning and know like, I feel fast today? Oh no. Not recently, dude. You know, like, but I've been on a bender, man. We're going to get back to Craig in just a second. But before we do, you know, America has a problem. Everyone's exhausted and out of it because they're not sleeping in a bed that's right for them. And the sleep that they are getting sucks. This problem has a name. It's called junk sleep. You stay up too late. If you work in bed before you go to sleep, if you watch TV in bed before you go to sleep, if you use your phone,

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pedophile. Yeah, right, right. Exactly. That's perfect. Yes. No dude, I don't know. Like I've been obsessed with our reasons. I was a kid and now I like finally have enough money to buy shitty ones. So I'll buy them and fix them up and then resell them. And like, that's what I do at the 23 hours of my day that I'm not running. Oh, that's sick. So how many of you fixed up? I think probably like 10 now, maybe like 8 to 10, but the first one was when I was 18 years old in college. That's awesome. Do you have one that you're working on right now? Yeah, it was the one they posted on the NBC feed. It's an old F-250 with like a camper in the back. It's kind of sick. That's awesome. Because I was actually looking at buying a VW Westphalia van. It was sick.

You got money then, bro. You got money. No, it was pretty cheap. It had like the stove and the bed and everything, the camping top in it. But then I found out that it was a manual transmission, not an automatic. I don't really know how to drive stick. How much would that cost for you to turn that into an automatic? Oh, I can't do that, bro. You need a mechanic. I'll make it look cool inside, but dude, you just got to learn how to drive manual. It takes you a day. I'll come up there and teach you. I know I've done it before, but also I just don't, I don't trust myself getting on the highway with a manual, you know? Especially in the city, man. I don't know where you live, but yeah, New York city is not a great place to be driving stick for the first time.

No, no. I actually learned on an RV though. My first RV was manual and I learned on that. It was terrifying, dude. Yeah, shit. So can you explain real quick the point system in running? Because that was the thing I struggled with after your race. Everyone kept on saying, no, no, no, Craig Angles might still make it. And I was like, all right, I'm just going to hold out hope. Like what, it made no sense. I actually started reading about it and we need to fix the running point system because it's a joke. You asked me if I could tell you about the point system. Yeah. Absolutely not. Because it makes no sense, right? I truly have no idea like how I even earn a point, dude. I just get out there like I'm not a smart guy at all. That's why I convert RVs and

run left turns, bro. So I'm not out there doing math like I don't know. I was just like, all right, I got to get top three, but I got fourth. Yeah. So you just you just literally go out there and you're like, all right, I'm just going to start running fast. And that's like the rest take care of itself. That's that's seems like my thought process most of the time. Yeah. Are we going to is America going to win the 1500 or are we going to lose? We're not. No. Yeah. If someone put out betting odds and there's a Kenyan guy that's going to win it. Got it. So you, so if you had gone, obviously it's a huge honor, but like what would be your chances if you had, if you had gone? I'd love to be cocky here and say like good chance of me winning, but absolutely none.

Okay. Yeah. So I'm there for a good time, but I'm not, but here's the, all right. So here's our spin zone, Craig. This, these Olympics suck. They're like every, no one gets to do anything. There's no fans. So you actually didn't even want to go to Tokyo. If you're here for a good time, it's the next Olympics, wherever the fuck that is. Those are the ones we're going to Paris, baby. Paris is perfect. Oh hell yes. You're going to make that team. Yeah, bro. I'll sign you up as my coach. If I make Paris, man. All right, perfect. I will literally trip someone for you. I will trip someone during the race for you. If that counts, like if you could trip someone and they would let the, the like the actual race stand, I will do that for you. Hopefully I won't need it

next time. So in 2019, I was like real fit and I won the USA championships and we got to go to Doha. Oh, where's that? But it's, it's in Qatar or Qatar? I'm like near Dubai and stuff. Yeah. But like sadly, I just wasn't as fit this year because during COVID, I like gave up. I wasn't really like training much and I didn't really care. Okay. That's a strategy that maybe didn't work in an Olympic year, but I like, I like you being honest about it. Like, hey, the Olympic trials are coming up in six months. Maybe now's not a great time to give up. COVID kind of sucks. I'm just going to, I'm going to hang out. Not really exercise. Well, one thing you can do during COVID is like run. Yeah, dude, most people got into running. I got out of it. It got too crowded outside.

Yeah. I love it. So what we got to do is we got to just say we're all in for Paris. Yes. All in for Paris. Get a Paris Olympics tattoo so that you know that you can be focused on that. That's the one that you care about. No, dude, this is what I was going to propose. How about I get like, how about I get a, I get two logos on my jersey and this one's not on my jersey. How about I get like a part of my take or Barstool? Yes. Yes. We will sponsor you like a NASCAR. I don't want to be, I don't want to be like the college kids. I want to be like legit sponsored by you guys. Yes. Yes. No, you want cash. I'll give you some cash. I want like 50 bucks from easy done easy. Dude, if you want an Olympic gold, I would absolutely get the rings tattooed somewhere on my body.

So that's your goal. I would. I actually give tattoos. So I'll give you those Olympic rings. You'll tattoo it. Yes. If you win a gold, I'll say just a medal. Just if you win a medal. Any medal in the Olympics. Wait, how's the 800 race go? Did you do the 800 meters as well? No, I really wanted to. But my coach was like, let's go all in on the 15. Is it that much of a, like you can't go all in on the 15 if you, if you do both? You can. And I did in college, but like in college, I didn't know what was going on. Like, I don't know. There's a lot more pressure when it's your job. Right. And so I'm sponsored by Nike now. Yeah. Right.

Yeah. Right. So, so when you finish a 1500 meter all out race, when would you, when is it, how long does it take until you could do that again? Oh, maybe like an hour. That's it. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's pretty incredible. So that's insane. So when you're running an 800 meter, you just have to, do you have to consciously tell yourself, okay, this is the pace that I'm supposed to be at? Like, I guess that's my question. How do you pace yourself for different races? Or you just kind of know how far away from the leader of the pack that you have to be? I get, like I said, I'm not very smart, man. I just sit, like, if someone's in front of me

going fast, I'm sitting right on like that. Drafting. Is drafting real and running? Totally. Whoa. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Yeah. Does it matter more if you're drafting in a 1500 or an 800? Way more than 1500. I would think it would be the opposite because they'd be going faster in the 800, which would mean that they'd be displacing more air in front of you. I don't know that I'm not very smart either. But you're a science guy, bro. Wait, but the 800, you're, the 800 is like probably the longest race that you're going all out the entire time, correct? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, look at you, bro. You know we're about running than it may. But it is like, that's the craziest part about the 800 is you're essentially sprinting as hard

as you can for 800 meters. Yeah. So my teammate, he's the fastest American of all time. Wow. I don't know if you watched the 800. It was the first three days of the trials. I didn't. What was his time? So he actually, he had a broken leg. Wait, what? He ran through it because he wanted to make the Olympics that bad, but he didn't do too well. But he's run one minute and 42 seconds. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. I don't think I can do 400 meters in that time. Can you just? It's 51 per lap. 51 seconds for 400 meters. You can just run through a broken leg? No. Yeah. He didn't qualify. So no, the answer is no. Yeah. He'll break the world record. He's like the most talented human I've ever met in my life. He could have played in the NFL. The fastest American of all time.

What's his name? Donovan Brasier. Donovan Brasier. And what's your fastest 800 meter time? I run 144. So it's two seconds off, but it's a lot more than he thinks. You might, when you come here and we go to a track, I think you'd lap me. I think you would finish two laps before I finished one. For the 800? Yeah, definitely. I think I would, I think if you did 800 and I did 400, I think I might be able to beat you by like a second or two. I don't know if you guys have heard of the beer mile. Have you heard of it? Yes. Yes. Maybe that would level the playing field, although I'm not bad at drinking. I don't think it would level the playing field at all. I just told you that a mile time that it would take me like 10 minutes to run a mile.

And I mean, just looking at you, I would say that the two best things that you are is like you're the best runner and the best beer drinker. You just look like a guy that can chug. And we actually did a milk mile a few years ago. Do you want to do the milk mile against us? I don't think so, man. Yeah. Yeah, it's messy. We should do the beer mile. Do you have a beer sponsorship because we're Coors Light? I see that. I see that right in front of me, dude. Yeah. So you, you're Coors Light too, right? Dude, I, someone, I fit, so in 2019 when I won USA, someone threw me a beer and then there's a photo of me holding the beer, like debating whether to smash on my head or drink it. Yeah. And what did you do? It was a Bud Light. So I reached out

to Bud Light like 50 times trying to get a sponsor and then never came back. All right. So we're going to get you sponsored by Coors Light. And then when you come to it, we're going to do a beer mile. We'll do a beer mile. What do you, I don't want to run a mile. We'll still do it on the tandem bike. Oh, we'll do the beer mile on the tandem bike. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's fine. Coors Light, the official beer of exercise. Yeah. What's your fastest beer mile? I've never run one. So this would be, this would be a big day. Okay. What is your worst event? Like, could I beat you in a 50 yard dash? I bet you could, dude. No way. I beat DK Metcalf. No way. Did you play sport? I raced Antonio Brown at a 40 one time, dude. What'd you get? Oh, he dusted me. Like,

I look like a, I look like a high school girl, dude. That's cool. But you got to be, what was your 40 time? What, you're going to, now he's going to say like 48. Probably like six seconds, dude. Really? Yeah. It's just like, I can, I can run, I can run my top speed for a long time, but my top speed is not very fast. Interesting. So do you actually get tired at the end of like an 800 or a 1500 or like, how long does it take for you to get tired? Yeah. And so it's like, I don't know the science behind it, but I say it's called going lactic. Right. So you just start tensing up and you start like running straight up in the air. Yeah. And your whole body's locked up and, and I don't know if that's being tired or like my body's like, dude, you're done.

And how long, when does that happen? Like, does that happen after, I would assume it happens after 1500 meters? Like, what's the longest you've raced? Oh, one, uh, 5000 meters, dude, three miles, you know. And, and what was your time in that? 13 minutes and 36 seconds. What the fuck? Oh my God. You're a freak, man. You are a freak. Like you are. You don't even like running. Your body is, you are quite literally built different. You know that? Like you, you don't get tired. Your body just gives up before you even feel tired. That's a, you've got some weird genes. I don't know, man. Like it's what's funny is like you, it's impressive to you guys, but to any other runner listening to this, they're like,

that's so average at the world, like at the world stage, I don't think there's like, you're now talking about like very few people who would say that's average, right? Like, you got to be a real dick to say that's average. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know, man, but you got to give yourself credit, Craig. We got to boost you up more. I'm team angles. Dude, you are. You're full. I really appreciate it. Yeah. You're like, you're putting yourself down. You're running fucking three miles and was it 13? That's, that's unfathomable to me. Paris 2024. That's the mindset we all have to have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we just get the tattoos and just worry about it later. What's up with, um, I do feel like there are a lot of runners out there that are kind of dickheads

on message boards. Like they always look at other runners and put them down or like, try to find ways that they might be cheating. Has anybody ever accused you of like, do you participate in that culture where you like upload your times to the internet? No, I don't. And this is actually hilarious, dude. Like, someone accused me of like, dope in one time and on my Instagram, people were like, bro, he's not even good enough. They're like, if he's doping, he sucks. He's taking the worst steroids ever. Oh, I'm like, all right. Well, there we go. Oh man. Well, Craig, this has been awesome. And we got it. I know you're going to be in Brooklyn and I think, uh, well, we're going to air this next week. So it might be even a few days. We'll do, we have to get together. We got to

find a track and we got to bring some Corselite and we got to do some tests on ourselves. We could just drink Cors at a track and not even run. That's also down for that. Yeah. Also down for that. Make Billy run. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Perfect. I don't want to get over my skis here. I feel like he's, he could be a potential play. I know. Yeah. Yes. Yes. You're a Blake of running. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Of running. Yes. But uh, yeah, let's get together. So, so we'll do that. And we'll, I think we should do the tandem bike versus you beer mile. All right, brother. You, you say so. I'm in. All right. Well, Craig, this has been awesome, man. Thank you so much. Good luck. And hopefully we'll see you soon. Yeah. Thank you so much for

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Need you to celebrate responsibly. Corsi Brewing Company, Golden Colorado. Okay, let's wrap it up. We got Firefest, by the way. Jalen Johnson, who did go to Duke. Wait, Jalen Johnson, that is the guy who quit on Duke. He dropped out of Duke. Yeah, so he's not actually, I'm not going to say he quit on it. He was courageous what he did against Coach K, because Coach K probably made it his life miserable playing at Duke. But he got drafted at number 20 to the Atlanta Hawks. So shout out Jalen Johnson. Coach K is officially off the board. Well, no, I think Jalen Johnson, he's not a Duke player. He's just not. I don't think that we can count him as a Duke player. Did he play in the last game of the season for Duke?

No, and yeah, if you're a Duke alum, like the Duke alums who remember they like belittled Elton Brand and Carlos Boozer, pretty much anyone who left early to try to better their life. Yeah, you're right. So taking him from a Duke alum, I would write a strongly worded letter to the Durham Gazette, let's call it, saying that Jalen Johnson never actually was a blue devil, and we don't take him as one of our own. Unless he had ended up somehow being a lottery pick, then we would have said score another one for Coach K. I actually think it's courageous what he did, like he's getting the conversation going. How hard is too hard for Coach K to be pushing these players? He's the one that stood up and said, enough is enough. I'm no longer a Duke University

basketball player. Yeah, standing up to the man. All right, Fire Press of the Week, PFC Warrantial Leader Saw. Wait, Hank, no. Don't do that. No, I'm not. I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I'm literally not doing that. You're doing that. No, I'm not doing anything. No, I made a funny joke. I would never. My Fire Press of the Week is that I'm in a tornado right now. So there's been like tornado warnings all evening. My phone is blowing up every 30 seconds telling me that there's a tornado that's like coming to get me personally. I think it's on my block. It's making its way down the street door by door. And I am honestly just, I don't know what it says about me. I'm just not afraid of tornadoes. I feel like I could take a tornado to the face, especially

like a bitch ass New Jersey tornado. This isn't, I'm not in Oklahoma right now. I'm not in Kansas. I feel like I could just like, we just fart at a tornado and it would just blow kind of across the street. Tornadoes are fucking scary, dude. Be careful. Get in a doorway. Go stand in a doorway. Don't shoot at it. No, that's an earthquake, by the way. That's an earthquake. Don't stand in a doorway. Go in your basement. Don't shoot at an earthquake. No, earthquakes standing in your doorway. Don't shoot at the tornado. Why not? Because people did that and the bullets come right back at you. I don't know if that doesn't sound true at all. I'm serious. There's no way. Also, you just totally shoot at a tornado. All right. I read that online. Do you also think

that Kelvin Benjamin got cut because he was stealing food from the Giants facility, Billy? No, but I do have more info on that. For the recap. Yes, Billy. Also, US Rugby lost the quarterfinals. They're not back officially, but the lads played well. We got fucked by the ref. They didn't even finish second? We finished second in our group and then that meant that we got to play an easier matchup in the quarterfinals than if we had finished first, obviously. But then, yeah, we went up three tries to nothing in the first half and then the ref just, you know, it's hard to play. We got a yellow card. So really, at that point, it was six versus eight when you include the ref on the side. I should have asked.

I should have asked. It was tough. Great showing by the lads, though. Shout out, Danny Barrett. Say something nice about rugby. They got the little car. That's all you need. Not only do they have the little carpet, Kat, but their little car has a rugby field on top of the little car. And then on that rugby field, there's another little car. Fuckin' love it. Love it. Love the little car. All right. My firefest is I went on vacation this week and I said I was going on vacation and most people play along with the joke. But then I really don't, I fucking shouldn't get triggered by it, but every now and then I do when someone's like, why are you tweeting on vacation? You're a scumbag father. I'm just like, I really fucking hate this person. So I'm never going to

say I'm going on vacation again. I'm just going to go on vacation, not saying anything. I was trying to make a joke out of it with Aaron Rodgers. It was funny. And then people took it too far. And actually we're like, oh, you're a scumbag dad. You're probably not even taking that to your son. It's like, dude, firing off a tweet takes no time. Well, Big Cat's actually tweeting a lot less than normal. Usually, even when we're on the road and Big Cat's driving, I'll be laying down at the back of the RV. You do tweet during shows. Yes. So does PFT. I don't do that anymore. I don't think I've ever tweeted during a show. That's a lie. They tweeted during the Matthew McConaughey interview that we did on Zoom.

I remember seeing Big Cat tweet. Yeah. I mean, sometimes news brings the fucking woman to do. There's a lot of fucking news going on right now. I can't be the guy who fucking shows up 10 hours later after Anthony Rizzo gets traded to the Yankees. That would be heartbreaking. Yeah. So fuck those people. I do like some of the people when people like, dude, you tweet too much. It's literally my job. It is my job. It's my job. If I was doing another job, if I was a doctor, I probably wouldn't be tweeting. Liam, you got a firefest? Yeah, I do. It was a classic future me situation. So I have a cousin who I'm very cool with and she graduated from like somewhere,

hit me up like a month ago. She was having a party and I was like, it's like, oh yeah, of course, like I'll be there about a week or two ago. I booked an appointment to get a new tattoo and put a deposit down. So I got the tattoo yesterday and this party is on Saturday and she hit me up like, I don't know, Monday or Tuesday. And I was like, oh fuck, I'm still going to get the tattoo. But so now I'm just going to have to see some of my family and like explain getting a new tattoo, which I would rather not do. Sweet. But your tattoo guy, does it matter at this point? No, but it still is like annoying when people are like, oh, like, what does it mean? Why'd you get

it? Whatever. They're not like, they're just not. You need to go full sleep. No, I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Asking a stranger like, oh, what, what does your tattoo mean? That's like asking a soldier, like, did you kill anybody? Like it's annoying for you guys to have to deal with those people, right? I am not going to make that comparison. I respect the truth. Does people still do that? Do people call through like, did you kill anyone? That's such a dick thing to say. Yeah. Yeah. People, people actually do that, which that's, I could understand maybe like a four year old saying it or Billy or Billy. Yeah, Billy's, Billy's

definitely done that. But Billy's kind of a Navy SEAL. So he can say that. Uh, Jake, you're a fire professor. By the way, Jake is calling the game. Are you flying out today? This morning. Yes. Okay. I'm heading south south to Colorado Springs. Yep. What time we shout it out again, just so people, because we got to honestly, everyone's got to step up. Even if you're not going to watch it, listen, lacrosse, it's not watchable, but still just turn it on. So the numbers get used for Jake. Yes. So it's going to be a double header, 715 PM and 10 PM Eastern. 715 is archers versus redwoods, water dogs versus whipsnakes, 10 PM Eastern. So you may be thinking it's late night on a Saturday. I'm not watching when you're pre-gaming, getting ready to go out, just throw in peacock.

Why not? Get on the cock. Yes. Also, make sure to take pictures of Jake's giant head from above the screen. Oh yeah. Yes. Definitely. Yes. So my firefest has something to do with that. I went a few blocks down to print my charts, my spotting boards. Oh, I guess. Okay. I can't see it. Yep. I'll tweet out a picture. Okay. These. It's like very special paper at Staples, like legal size, color, blah, blah, blah. I go in, I come out, it starts pouring, and I have to put it under my shirt. I printed a few copies, so I'm okay. But like, of course, you can't call Yain without that. So. Oh my God. You don't have a binder? No, you don't use a binder. Use a manila folder. It's over there.

How are you carrying it on the plane? A manila folder? Yeah, in my backpack, which I didn't. What are some spills? I have a few copies, but like. What are some spills on the whole fucking manila folder? I have it on my Excel. I can always print something in Colorado, God forbid. Okay. All right. Well, I'm just saying, maybe you can seal that bad boy up, you know, putting a big Ziploc bag. Yeah. Please tune in if you can, and it should be fun. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's not how we're doing it, Jake. If you don't tune in, you're a fucking scumbag and never listen to this show again. It's mandatory. It's mandatory.

So let's do it that way. You know what, Picat? The ink isn't dry on the 2021 Thank You Awards. It has to be real shame if we had to revoke the listeners of the year. Yeah, we actually, we file it and send in the paperwork and we usually don't get it for at least a month back. So yeah, we can definitely change that. Yeah. I talked to Coach Copeland yesterday. He was asking. Who is that? Who is that? You can't say that like we know who that is. That coach of your water dogs. Oh, okay. And he asked how ownership is doing. And I said, did you see the fucking chart that someone put out there?

Yeah, most shots in the league. That was most shots in the league. They listened to us. I asked him about that too. And he's like, well, we've played one extra game that a lot of these teams might be a little, but I think it was for capital shots per game. Yeah. So Saturday night. Jake, I have a question for you. Do you get nerves before a big broadcast? Because every time I've seen you do a show, whether it's toolstream stadiums, check out the play barstool app. I want to make sure to plug that in there since no one else is going to on this show today. But do you get nervous before broadcast?

Yeah, there's always some nerves. But once the game starts, it's good. I think it's the anticipation that's more nerve wracking. But once the game's rolling, once you get through the open, once you're calling the action, your adrenaline really is there and you have fun with it. Do you have a little symbol that you have ready for the people at home that are watching? Like a little, maybe a hand gesture or a little wink that you can do to tell all the listeners like, Hey, I love you. Thanks for watching. We can brainstorm something. I don't know if I'm going to be on camera that much, aside from the beginning, but.

Face to radio. Yeah, exactly. You're going to do a slide? We all have that. I don't think we're doing a slide, but I'm not sure. Okay. I'm Jake Marsh. Pick your nose. Yeah, do that.

I'm Jake Marsh. Sleep well or something like that. Something really nice. And so good night. At the end, maybe good night. Sleep tight. Yeah, sleep tight this night off the broadcast. Yeah, it'll be like midnight here in New York. Right. All right. Good night, sleep tight. Okay. We'll say, we'll say. Recap and. Firefest.

Quick firefest. That pie coin I was telling everyone to do is a scam. No. Yo, all right. Don't do it. We don't know. Hold on. Let me just interject here real quick. If you don't know, there was a moment in time that Billy, they were calling themselves pioneers. I walked in the offices. Billy, Marty, Moshe, and I think Big Ed. And I was like, this,

how could you actually, this is almost like when Steven Seagal invented Bitcoin to Jen. Like those three guys. That's the brain trust. Yeah. The brain trust. I was like, Oh my God. But there was a moment where it was like someone said, Oh, these guys are Stanford and created it and Billy's gotten all these pie. There was a moment where pie became legit. Billy was going to be like a billionaire.

Unfortunately, it sounds like that never happened. Yeah. Basically, it's sort of a big kind of pyramid scheme-esque type of thing. Wait, what made you think it was, wait, hold on. What made you think it was a pyramid scheme? Was it the fact that you had to get other pioneers to make yourself more pie? Yeah, that. And, you know, the sort of pyramid part of it. But everyone in the office kept on asking me to tweet out their specific link. They're like, dude, could you please tweet out my link for the pie?

And I was like, this, that's a pyramid scheme. But three of them, the three of those guys got into a fight with each other because they were all texting me their link. And then Marty was like, yeah, I already texted my link. You can't text them your link now. And they were actually like getting into a verbal altercation just based on who in the office was going to get sent different links. Yes.

So delete the app and stop asking people to mine pie because the notifications are annoying. But if anyone from pie wants to prove me wrong and maybe like get it legit, like pie people, like, do your thing. Anyway, Billy, what are you doing right now? What? It sounds like it might not be a scam, but Billy's trying to get them to pay him money.

No. Are you a story pie, Billy? The eight-hole phone with the rabbit got the gun. Billy's scamming the scammers. Yeah. I mean, hey, someone's got to do it. Yeah. No, but I'm not going to actually accept money from them. Just like make it legit so I can be a billionaire regularly.

Oh, yeah. If they offered it, you wouldn't take it, right? Yeah. If they like, yeah, like actually made it legit and all the pie have become legit, like I totally take it. But now their cycles are regular with sports. We're coming up on NFL training camp. So we've had two days of training camp in a lot of news. Would you guys like to hear some of it? Nothing about quarterbacks.

Nothing about quarterbacks. Yes. Except Josh Allen, because he's throwing really awesome seam in post passes. Okay, but that's nothing new. Yeah. Right, but it's impressing NFL veteran. Here we go.

Emmanuel Sanders. Emmanuel Sanders, who's been in the league and played with some of the best quarterbacks ever. So that's high praise. But we have some great highlights like Dan Campbell doing 40 up-downs with his defense, who have just started doing 40 up-downs every morning before practice.

And the best part about the video is Dan Campbell has very obviously got a bad me, but he's still doing it with the team, which is total out. I want to point out in the tweet that came out that had the video of Dan Campbell doing the up-downs, the reporter called them down ups, which is how you know he's not a football guy.

But then I started to think about it and down up actually makes way more sense when you're describing the exercise. As you go down and then up. Right. Well, it depends if you start on the ground or not. Well, yeah, usually. But to get to the ground, you go down.

Are you saying like if you, I guess, if you really think about it, you're laying down when you wake up. So your first move of the day is up. So any move down would be off of that up. So it is an up-down. I could see Dan Campbell sleeping on his feet like a horse.

I used to think, by the way, dumb thought. I used to think that if a horse fell down, it would just died. Well, that's true. Up until I was about like 24. Travis Kelsey, excellent practice with back and hip tightness. The Saints read about this. What are you doing right now? Is this just, are you just doing the whole thing?

I'm just recounting all the NFL news. There's so much news we need to talk about. Is Billy reading Adam Schefter's timeline? It's not even Schefter's timeline. Because Schefter will put a little like pizzazz in it. He's literally reading the USA today, like news and notes, NFL news and notes and transactions. Oh, Chris Logan, lacrosse player joined the Saints.

Yes. Yes. Also the thing with Calvin Benjamin, basically Joe Judge wanted him at a certain weight coming in. I think it was like 251. He came in at 268. And that's why I went to a big argument. But he passed the conditioning.

So it was kind of like, I'm fat, but I can still move. I'm like, not out of shape. I'm just, you know, got a little extra junk in the truck. Just more me to love, baby. 268. That's got to be muscle, right? Muscle weighs more than fat. That's insane.

Yeah. It's basically gentlemen wanted him. Joe Judge didn't in Benjamin, which is caught in between. Anyway, we got basically everyone thinks that Zach Erz is sending subliminal messages and training camp by wearing his shorts inside out and dyeing his hair blonde. Not probably not. That press got out with an MRI. He showed a muscle strain on his right shoulder.

It was a note. It was a note. I wrote a lot of notes. Anyway, Billy, Billy, first of all, Billy's just reading his blog out loud. That he wrote earlier today. Second of all, what, what's subliminal messages? Are you talking about Zach? I don't know.

He's upset with his, his, his contract negotiations. All right, Billy, I'm giving you an A plus. This has been an A plus. Okay. Also, let's end the show. Also, that dude on the weightlifting team, China, who kept saying his balls are okay. That's because he's trying to like make people think he's not doing steroids. Oh.

Okay. God, he's like, he's not being like, yeah. No, he's like, trying not to get tested by the IOC because they busted a bunch of weightlifting. Is that how you have to say? Pack standing. That's compete. Is that all you have to say?

My balls are okay on Instagram. They won't test you. That's, that's his angle. Yeah. It's like saying, am I being detained to a police officer? They have to let you go. Yes. All right.

Numbers. Yeah. 99. It's tough. It's tough. This is like doing the numbers right now is like showing up to a sick party the next day, like back to that house being like, are we going to try to do this again? But we're doing it again.

I don't know. Yeah. We're chasing the dragon. Oh, here we go. That was, it was an all time moment when I was like, do you guys want to change your number? And big cat goes, do you guys want to change your name to the place? Oh man.

Those guys just credit to them. Someone put it perfectly. They're like trying to explain how we got millionaire athlete, three millionaire athletes sitting in a listening to 50 rounds of a lottery competition to decide who has, who's the best Blake and one of them's not even named Blake. Yeah. You're right. I don't know how we got here.

Where's Liam going? Oh, also they announced the day of the match. 53. Oh, 53. The day of the match of Dave. There's timers. Brooks. Brooks left, left, left.

It's going to be on September 7th, right? The Tuesday after Labor Day weekend, me and big cat will be on the bag. It should be an amazing athletic event. Yes. It's going to be incredible, incredible. Okay. Kangaroo. 53.

Yeah, 53. 53 first timer. Okay. Kangaroos don't have Australian accents. It's Chris. Love you guys. Anyway, today's another day to find you. Shying away.

I'll be coming for your love of cake. Shying away. I'll be coming for your love of cake. Take on me, take me on, needless to say, I ought to send it, but I'll be stolen away. The rhythm of the wise is okay. Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry. Say after me, it's no better to be safe than sorry. Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone in a day or two.

All the things that you say is a lot more just to play my worries away. You're all the things I thought to remember. Be shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway. Be shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me, take me on, I'll be gone in a day.