Pardon My Take - NCAA Tournament Mega Recap, Lack Of Upsets, Storylines, Cal vs Pitino, Duke's Dominance And More

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

We've watched 4 days straight of basketball and are ready to break it all down. We talk big picture tourney topics, the lack of upsets, how Monday sucks beyond belief (00:00:00-00:13:24). We then brea...k down each region Starting with South (000:13:24-00:33:42), then West (00:33:42-01:03:05), East (01:03:05-01:28:57), and Midwest (01:28:57-01:48:07). We talk Cal vs Pitino, Duke dominating, Big Cat's Badgers losing and then getting his twitter account locked, football vs basketball schools and more. We finish with who's back of the week including a spirited hammock debate and then lotto numbers (01:48:07-02:07:39).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:02:36 That's code TAKE for new customers. Get $200 in bonus bets when you bet just five bucks only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Monday, March 24th. And boys, we've just watched a lot of basketball. We mainline that. That was four days, tough four days of watching hoops, sitting on a couch. My steps, I think my steps per day topped out at about five or 600. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Which is the way that got intended. Yes. It was a great weekend of sports. It ended up being pretty chalky, but that's okay Yeah, we got some great matchups coming up. Yeah, so we're gonna go through each region and break it down I do want to say before we get into it When you're listening to this right now on Monday morning, this is one of the toughest Mondays of the entire calendar year I'm I stand with you It's you get four days where you just watch nothing
Starting point is 00:03:27 but hoops. The moments in between the games, the moments you wake up on Saturday and Sunday, you're just waiting for the hoops to start again. And then Monday comes and they rip it all away from you. And I just sit there on this Monday and I kind of stare blankly outside and basically Pablo Escobar staring outside of a window being like, well, where's the basketball? No basketball. Why? Why? Why is there basketball? We were saying it in the cave. The NIT should just play all day Monday and wean us off. Yeah. When's the crown play max? We need, we need something to dial. The crown should be playing. It's the week of the final four or you know what it should
Starting point is 00:04:04 be? It should be opening day. MLB would or you know, it should be it should be opening day MLB would be smart to be like hey, here's opening day I know you guys are are have just went through four days where you thought maybe it's it's the same feeling of Being on a bachelor party with with your best friends and having that moment where you're like man Maybe we should just do this Maybe we should get a house together in San Diego and just live just the boys all 15 of us and just Say fuck off to our families and And then you have that moment, you're like, fuck, I got to go back to real life. That's today.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I think it probably does save some relationships though, because you just spent the last four days watching sports all day on TV. If you did it again on Monday, you might have to have a hard conversation. Yeah, I know it's a personal problem. I just, I always struggle with this Monday. And this isn't just because you know, when we started that our job is sports, this was before bar stool before PMT. Like this Monday always sucked for me. Cause I was just like, that was it. No, no, no. They're year. And then you look at the,
Starting point is 00:04:57 you look at the Thursday matchups for a sweet 16 and you just, you look at the schedule and say, where are all the games? Yeah. So why? It feels like there should be more games If you got home on Monday from work, and then maybe your significant other was like, okay We got you made me wait to watch severance. So we got that recorded white lotus recorded Let's sit down have a family night. You're like UAB is playing you and T and I want to watch and I kind of want Yeah, and the people that work like a corporate job have to go in and listen to you know UAB is playing UNT and I want to watch it. I kind of want to put some money on it. Yeah. And the people that work like a corporate job have to go in and listen to, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:29 their coworkers who don't even really watch sports talk about their brackets. The brackets. Yeah. It's a brutal day. This is, I think this day is probably the number one water cooler day. Yeah. And it's, it's yeah. And this year it's going to be a lot of man, what happened to March madness? What happened to the upsets? What happened to Cinderella? I just I'm just saying I'm here with you guys. I know that our job is a little different than people listening to this show. But you are seen. I'm shining a light on how much today sucks for you because you're sitting in your car right now. You're on your commute like man. It's just like the dopamine of, of wall to wall hoops. When they take it away from you, I'm an addict. I need the hoops. But if you are a fan of one of the teams that's still in it, this
Starting point is 00:06:13 is a great Monday because that now you get to just relive the entire, you got two games that you get to think back on, read all the stats from make plans for Thursday or Friday of where you're going to go drink and hang out. Yeah. No, it's are you, are we going to go to the game? Um, all right. So well, before we do the regions, uh, has, is March madness gone? Have we lost March? There was no madness this year. It was, it was too sane. So, so the, the, the biggest culprit that I've seen being blamed is NIL and transfer portal. I think that's actually a fair critique because what has happened with a lot of these games is that, or a lot of these teams, a lot of the smaller conferences will take a shot on a guy who maybe wasn't a, you know, a high level guy out of high school. Maybe was it
Starting point is 00:06:59 Juco? Maybe didn't grow all the way. They take a shot on him. He's good for a year. And then he gets plucked in the transfer portal in NIL. And all the power five schools are basically picking apart all the smaller schools and taking their best players. And then you don't get upset. I actually think it's a fair critique. I think you need a little bit more of a sample size than two years, but we did lack, especially the first two days, the madness. We had no, what would, what would be the moment we even looked, especially the first two days, the madness. We had no, what
Starting point is 00:07:27 would, what would be the moment we even look to for the first two days? I, these McNeese. Yeah. McNeese in the first round. That was Robert Morris for a half. I was pretty mad. Also was it Norfolk? Norfolk was, they were, they were plucky. They were frisky. Norfolk for the middle, the middle, uh, 20 minutes of the game. And they lost by like, like 30. The story, the, uh, the underdog story, 20 minutes of the game. And they lost by like, like 30 the story, the, uh, the underdog story, the feel good Hoosier story coming out of this weekend was those, uh, those plucky underdogs at Arkansas coach Cal. Yeah. Uh, he is the one Cinderella that's still left and he's at Arkansas. They were 10 seeds. So it still
Starting point is 00:08:00 counts, but yeah, we don't get the mid majors, which is unfortunate. Yeah. Because I do, but also for college basketball, it's good to have one, maybe two of those. Yes. And the matchups are all really good. If you look at what we're looking at for Thursday and Friday, it's going to be some good games. I'm a big believer and you don't want the St. Peter's going all the way to the lead eight and having a blowout game in the lead eight. I want the basketball to get better and better as the tournament goes along, but we absolutely missed out on having one or two crazy upsets. I think it was the first time in 15 years I read that all the one, two threes and fours won their first round game. So that, that tells you everything right there. Like we
Starting point is 00:08:40 didn't have that one moment, a buzzer beater or a 15 point dog winning it all. It was also I also was laughing because the the gambling influencers online has become a popular business. And I saw a few dudes doing tic tocs being like, here's the plan for March Madness. We take every single Moneyline dog straight in the first two days. Were you one of those influencers? No, I was not. And it's like, this was not the year to do that.
Starting point is 00:09:11 This was not the year to do that. There was no madness. Yeah, we lacked madness. Very little madness. Yeah. All right. So yeah, I mean, I'm holding out hope that we'll get the madness in future years, but it would be crazy for us to do
Starting point is 00:09:25 this show on Monday and be like, wow, that was incredible. That was the best thing we ever see. It wasn't. We lacked madness this year, but also had fun. But also if there's anything that you don't like about college sports, the very first thing that you can always point out is you're like NIL transfer portal. Yeah. Yeah. And I did do it. It is kind of weird that the transfer portal is now open. Yeah. It opened up on Sunday night. Yeah. Well, it's like college football. They do the same thing when the playoffs are still going on. The transfer portal is happening. I was saying in the cave as well, that like, I, if you're, uh,
Starting point is 00:09:56 let's say like 50 billion, you have 50 billion, you don't own a sports team, just start doing cool guy moves and everyone will be like, man, that guy rocks. If I were Mark Cuban, I don't have the math anymore. I would just be like, Hey, you know what? I need the madness. All the small schools in college basketball and division one college basketball. I'm going to give you $3 million each.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Any non power five school for per year. So then you get some of the second guys from the power five from the big program. They'd be able to keep some of their guys. Yeah. They'd be able to keep their guys, their homegrown guys. They're still going to be able to get outspent by the big program. Of course. But now the sec learned that once you start through, once you throw money at all the sports that you use to just throw money, like football was the one place where they would dominate for a while. And now the sec is like, Oh, we can pay basketball players too. Let's go.'s go. But I would like some cool, some rich guy to be just like, when cool guy of the
Starting point is 00:10:48 year, we'll give you the award, when cool guy of the year and just say, Hey, oh, Akron, you have a, you have a guy who took a shot on who was incredible this year. And now he's going to get $250,000 from a power five program. Well, here's $250,000. Keep them there. Have fun for the billionaires that don't have a school that they like. All right. Have fun with billionaires that don't have a school that they like all right, or just billionaires who love the madness I would say that billionaires that that love madness probably have already found a school that they're giving my to buy I know so they're they don't give a fuck about the back there they Truly wouldn't care like oh man. I can't believe oh boohoo. I have 50 billion dollars and there wasn't enough madness
Starting point is 00:11:23 That's probably not going through their heads probably not looking just looking out for the for the regular guy there the billionaires like that. They're like, oh the sports is on TV Yeah, you guys are watching sports ball. I was thinking about this take more What happens when they run out of the money? What do you mean? So does the that billionaire just have to give a billion every year? Maybe not a billion but like 500 million if you have if you had a hundred year? Maybe not a billion, but like 500 million. If you have, if you had a hundred billion, that's a lot of billions. I'm not a financial advisor. I'm not very good with my own money, but this is what I would do. I think what big cats asking for is very polite. Those hundred billion in the crown prince of Saudi
Starting point is 00:12:01 Arabia wants to get involved in mid major college basketball. Now is the time to do or you have to continue to do it. Here's what you should. Okay, fine. You know what? Just one of these hundred billionaires, just give me the money and I'll handle it. I think that'll go badly for you. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Because it doesn't sound like you're thinking this through. How sick would it be though if I was the king of the little guys? We were talking about in the cave at first What do you like million? Yeah, you said 20 million to 200 schools? I was like no one is that rich to just like do this every year It was like the game 20 million you wouldn't have to give it a 200. That's what he said Here's the deal with the mid majors there's mid majors and then there's mid mid majors Yeah, you know like some of the familiar names for the mid majors that we like to see run.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. There's the one bid leagues that I would just be like, all right, pick the one team and I'll give you the money. Yeah. Yeah. Like you guys, you guys could road the mountain west gets four or five. Yeah. They would get, yeah, they would, they'd get to pick four or five, but like, yeah, the Patriot league, you get one team. Yeah. I'm going to boost one team. Maybe I'd spin a wheel. That would be a cool selection Sunday where it's like every year right before the transfer portal opens, everyone gets to tune in. It's like, all right, Lehigh, there'd be getting 20 million this year, buddy. Administrative errors. Like the Mac gets five teams, but it accidentally goes to the Mac.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah. The two a man. Oh, I would boost the fuck out of the Mac. That would be awesome. If I just it accidentally goes to the Mac. Yeah. The 2A Mac. Oh, I would boost the fuck out of the Mac. That would be awesome. If I just gave a billion to the Mac. Yeah. All right, maybe not the smartest idea, but it was an idea I had.
Starting point is 00:13:33 This is kind of max. My math on this was like the meme that goes around every now and then. We were like, what if Bill Gates could just give a million dollars to every person in America and solve poverty and someone does the money The numbers are like dude you get $120. Yeah He doesn't know it's a better use of this money is if you just pay off refs
Starting point is 00:13:54 Yeah, you only have to pay off like 15 guys. Yeah, that's it or pay off the big boys to be like hey, why not? Maybe get upset today. Take a dive. Yeah, here's a million bucks. All right Let's get to the to the regions. Let's get to the games Let's start. We'll do we'll do the bracket in order This bracket by the way that was printed out for us on Sunday night with none of the regions has set me back I couldn't name any of the region. Well, there was a first bracket You got the second bracket there was a there was a different one that was on your desk. Cause I got the first one and it's good Auburn. You want to start in that? Yeah. Yeah. We'll do it. We'll do it in order.
Starting point is 00:14:31 That's the South. Yeah. We're it's in the South. It's in the top left Auburn Creighton. Auburn. I feel like there was the vibe that Auburn had bad vibes. They had lost, you know, three out of four, I think going into the tournament. This was one of those games where everyone I feel like wanted to create and to win bet Creighton and Auburn. It was a very close game. Then Auburn was like, wait, we're Auburn were better than you. And I think it was a tie game with 10 minutes left. And then you looked up and it was a 10 point game and, and Jani broom didn't even play well. He was missing every little bunny. Uh, the scariest part about Auburn as a team is
Starting point is 00:15:11 Pettiford, the guy who comes off the bench, who was an NBA player. He was awesome. And they have that guy coming off the bench. And they also have the, uh, the crazy guy, Chad Baker, Mazara. Yeah. Who gets kicked out of a couple of games. I love watching play He's got a little George Pickens in him Yeah He just goes nuts and he is a force when he's the DNA of guys that are just really great rebounders They're fascinating to me just because they're always fighting and he's one of those guys. He takes it over the line sometimes But yeah, he was he was somewhat dominant in that game I wish that and max would not like this max by the way
Starting point is 00:15:44 RIP the Big East no teams in the sweet 16 as one of my takes anti I wish that and max would not like this max by the way rip the big east No teams in the sweet 16 as one of my takes anti. Oh, that was one. I tasked max Max was is doing what Hank did last week. He's on the IR right now I'm good takes and you said you're gonna bring some takes. I don't have I don't have the strongest takes but I got I got Talking points. Okay, so the biggies out Creighton was not the with a the last team in yeah They played because oh you can you con yes out on Sunday I wish cop colt Brenner and Ashworth could just stay a Creighton forever. They're just such college basketball players
Starting point is 00:16:20 And it like it sucks it that's kind of the end for them getting bounced in the second round, but what was your big East take? Just that like this tournament doesn't really matter anymore because there's no more big East Okay, I like that your take should be that the Big East tournament is actually the hardest tournament to win. Yeah Yeah, that's the national champion St. John's mm-hmm like as he says there's too many SEC teams Big East is college basketball SEC's football. They're carpetbaggers. Yeah. They're just acting like they cared about college basketball along. But you know that in your heart of hearts, if you're Auburn, what would you trade for a football? How many basketball national championships would you trade for a football? Five. You think five?
Starting point is 00:17:00 No, no less than five. I do agree with this taken that the SEC has two and a half basketball schools that I respect as basketball schools, Kentucky, Florida, and half of Tennessee. None of the other like Auburn's great. Auburn could win the national. They might win the national number one seed, but I don't respect them as a basketball school. That's football. Like that's not, it's not insult. That's football. And I and I the fans aren't the same. It's full because like when you're when you're watching SEC basketball fans, you know, you're only thinking in the back of your head.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Like they don't they don't care about this. Like they care about football. Correct. When you look at Big East, Big East basketball fans, it's everything. Right. Right. It's all you got. It's all you got. I mean, Kentucky is is that Kentucky is is definitely an outline Florida because of the history, right? Like Florida has the history of being really good at basketball. So I count them as well. For sure. For sure. And Tennessee as well. Half half of the, yeah. I'm fine with that. You like that take? Yeah. I like that. I think it's all of them. Yeah. I think Tennessee is up there though because they do care. Yeah. No, no, no. Like the all in Tennessee is obviously there is, is a clear one. They care in a way
Starting point is 00:18:09 that like they deeply care about because they've never won. Right. But I respect them. I'm giving them a half because I respect their basketball tradition and they do care. It's more that football still is the king there. And Florida gets it just because of the, they've won titles. The fact that Alabama has won so many titles in college football And that I think it would still it would probably take Bama fans like what? six seven Natties in football to trade for a basketball one. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah Creighton out Big East out Auburn I think they're they're fine obviously gets tougher going through but like this was the
Starting point is 00:18:44 First game where I think I think everyone was like, I. Obviously it gets tougher going through. But like this was the first game where I think I think everyone was like, Oh, I don't know how Albert's gonna Albert's going to play here. Shaking the first round. Right. Well, and they, and they finished the season not looking great. And I think they're fine. And they have that, like I said, like Jani Broom didn't play that well. I felt like he missed every short shot that he was taking. And he, he's the national player of the year He's gonna be fine and then Michigan next right? Yeah, that's gonna be interesting. See how they go up against the big guys on Michigan Yeah, so Michigan Texas A&M was one of our good games this weekend, even though the final score Doesn't look that great
Starting point is 00:19:19 But this was a great game in the fact that it was like punch-counter punch Where it was very tight in the first half. Then Texas A&M was up 60 to 50 with 1317 left and Michigan went on a 3112 run in the next 10 minutes. Dusty May is just a hell of a coach. He, he said it on our show. He's like, we needed a reset. We need a reset. What have they done since then? They won the big 10 tournament and now they're in the sweet 16 and like his use of, of uh, like Vlad got
Starting point is 00:19:52 in foul trouble. He was subbing them in and out offense defense. Vlad was a beast. Uh, it was a tough day for any Ohio state fans cause Roddy Gale who transferred to Ohio state was unconscious. Uh, Michigan's just like, I just think Dusty May is one of those guys that I'm putting him in like tournament coach. Well yeah, and Vlad's a tournament player. Big time tournament player. And they have, this is interesting. What's the guy's name from Michigan? Is it Donaldson? Yeah. I think it's Donaldson, he was at Auburn. Yeah. And then transferred to Michigan. Now they're going to be matched up. And I actually like watching Wolf play too. Oh, he's awesome.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Wolf is- He is a little addicted to spin moves. He's addicted to spin moves and he like might appear kind of frumpy when you first look at him. But I think it's deceptive how fast he is. No, and he also is, he's seven feet and he passes so well. If Michigan, basically Michigan is gonna come down to like every Michigan game, turnovers can they limit the
Starting point is 00:20:46 turnovers and Michigan just wants them to keep winning because the longer they win, the longer they have to kind of push off the reality that's hitting some of their other programs right now. Oh, what are you talking about? I don't know. I don't know. David Weiss. Oh, there's just other things. Other things going on. We don't have to worry about the other things while sports are still happening. That's true. That's how it goes. It's like Florida. Yeah. Ole Miss, Iowa State, Chris Beard, another tournament coach. Like Ole Miss, I don't think
Starting point is 00:21:13 anyone expected them to make noise in this tournament. They had a good season in the SEC. They weren't one of the dominant teams in the SEC. They killed UNC on Friday and then they killed Iowa State on Sunday. So is this the first sweet 16 that they've been to since was it like 2000? It's been a long time. Something like 20 years because I thought that Marshall Henderson had got there. No. But he didn't it's just that anytime he won a game he made you know you thought that they just won the final four games. He let you know that he won the game. He let you know that they that they just won the final four game. He let you know that he won the game. He lets you know that they won. But yeah, Chris beard and the guys, they, they look very, very good today against Iowa state. I asked Mark Titus this big cat,
Starting point is 00:21:52 I'll ask you the same question. Yes. It is it time to prepare to have a conversation about Otsal burger in what way? Just a conversation of like when, when can we expect more than sweet 16s? I feel that he's a victim of his, when, when can we expect more than sweet 16s? Uh, because I feel like he's a victim of his own success at this point. He's only been there four years. Yeah. And he's gone to two sweet 16s in four years. I would say not yet. Cause I always say it's not exactly the easiest place. They don't have like the most resources and the most fertile recruiting ground. I'd say he's a really good coach to four tournament appearances in four years, two sweet 16s of those four. I would say TJ Altsberg is a pretty damn good coach, maybe a little too tight on the polo that
Starting point is 00:22:36 they're getting tired on that. But yeah, I think he's a very good coach. I'm not to be clear. I'm not having the conversation, but you're asking, but I'm saying, is it time for others to begin to prep for the conversation? Right. I think maybe it's okay to prep. It's never too early to prep. Yeah. I think, I think going like in the next couple of years, if he needs to make a deep run, but the tournament is so hard, man. He's such a good coach that now you're like, we expect more from you. But I mean, one of his best players gets hurt right before that. He kind of kept that from the media, got himself a better seed. Uh, but yeah, no, I think he's a very good coach. And I mean, he was a very good coach. He took a small school camera. Where was he before that? I know he was at UNLV, but where was he before that? Cause I know he took them
Starting point is 00:23:21 to the tournament as well. South Dakota state. Yeah. so I think he's very good coach UNLV no yeah but before I said UNLV yeah South Dakota State yeah it is late night I'm being helpful over here last night who fucking brought this up is tonight gonna be later than last night yes oh is it is it Lisa flip a coin flip? You know what? I, I, I am bringing as much as I would any other day. You're bringing a lot. You're bringing the lot. If you're going to hoot with the house, you got to still talk to more than, Hey, cause it said anything and he has to do anything. No crazy take terrible take that wasn't the take. The take was his time to prepare to have a conversation also bad take not a hot seat
Starting point is 00:24:06 Just a conversation about him. No, no I'm not again. I'm not saying hot seat But some coaches they start to get labeled as can't get past the sweet 16 once they get good enough at coaching I think it's so hard in this tournament. He's just the luck of the draw and everything. It's fucking hard It's hard. He just needs to get a looser polo. It is way too tight. It's way too tight. Every game. It's like a shrink. That's not even the one from today. The one he was wearing today, the gray and black one. It's also crazy because like if you're getting your shit kicked out of you like they did by Ole Miss today and Ole Miss was phenomenal. Uh, again, Chris
Starting point is 00:24:41 beard tournament coach. Like I, that's a guy, if you're playing the second game, you know, with, with less than 48 hours to plan, give me Chris beard every time because he just feels like he's going to out game plan the, the, the other coach. But if you're getting the shit kicked out of you, like throw on a sweatshirt or something, dude, you're he's basically wearing a skin suit. It's crazy. It got smaller. It did. It got smaller.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Maybe that's what he should do. Maybe he needs to get even smaller of a polo. Just wear the small, switch to the, maybe just a singlet. Maybe he's like into BDSM. He's got to punish himself until he gets past the Sweet 16. If he showed up with a leather, a tight leather one, that just zipped like all the way up with a hoodie that he could pull over his entire face Yeah, I would bet on him for that by the way other win for Ole Miss
Starting point is 00:25:29 I feel like Chris Beard staying right because all the Iowa got Ben McCollum from Drake We are already knew that Darren DeVries went to Indiana and then Sean Miller went to Texas. Yeah, so I don't know where Chris beer would go but I feel like they might have survived one of those, you know, coaching carousels. Nova? Because remember Rick Pitino came in here and he told us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He's like, Chris Beard should be the coach of Indiana. Nova? Max, do you want Chris Beard? Not a Nova guy? Not a Nova guy. Where is it, where are we at with the Nova search? I don't know, Maryland keeps winning, so it's not great there. Maybe this guy. Who? TJ Altsberg? I'll take him. I would,
Starting point is 00:26:10 I have dibs on him years from now. He is from Wisconsin. We at Villanova is a much better job. I'm just saying I have dibs on him. I, well we'll see. Well, do you not respect dibs? No, I got to respect dibs. Yes, Thank you. I got to respect. I rest my case Pft has dibs on Cooper fly. Yeah And you respect that? That one I don't respect no, you do respect it. Well, we'll see nasty If you get if you get the first pick, I will respect it. Thank you But okay, but it's six you get the first pick. I will not I if you should go back to college. Yes
Starting point is 00:26:42 But if the Sixers get the first pick, I will not. If the Sixers get, he should go back to college. Yes. By the way, that is- You know what? The Sixers do a great job, big men with ankle injuries. He's not a big man. How tall is he? But he's not a big man.
Starting point is 00:26:55 He is a big man with ankle injuries. He is a taller guy who had a sprained ankle. Yeah. Paul George, he's a big man. No. You don't. He's a big man. No, I don't. I said he is everyone in the NBA. Paul George is a big man. Factor fiction. He is a tall. He is. He's tall. Yeah, he's tall. He's tall. All right. Last one in this region, New Mexico, Michigan state, uh, great seeing Rick Patino out there supporting rich Richard. I don't know if you saw the picture. I think most great fans picture. Great fans behind him.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Everybody was behind him. New Mexico. Great fans. Michigan State deserves a lot of credit because Michigan State got punched in the mouth at the beginning of this game and they just keep they keep pushing the pace and they're just dogs. New Mexico probably could have gotten a better whistle. I'll say that. Yeah. Yeah, probably. Probably. But they, they didn't hang in there. No, it looked promising at the start. I mean, I think that's one coach, Richard Patino. It's, it's a matter of time before he's in the big East, right? Well, he's got to take over for St. John's. That's a succession. He could. Yeah. I was thinking there's people having a discussion at Providence right now. He's heating up. Is he a, is he a big conference coach? Not so much in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Yeah, he was a name. He was a name that was floating around Villanova circles. I think, I think the Minnesota years have scared some people. Yeah. But that would be good. Get a little more Italian. It just does feel like his destiny to be in the big have scared some people. Yeah But that would be good get a little more Italian It just does feel like it's destiny to be in the Big East. I agree. I agree. Uh Yeah, New Mexico. They just kind of ran out of gas and Michigan State was just better Tom is oh now 16th sweet 16 and I saw this Someone has a chart where they have like expected wins in the tournament
Starting point is 00:28:47 I would assume that's based on like being you know favorites and seeding and all that stuff Tom is oh has been to the tournament 21 times his expected wins are 27.6 he has 39 wins. I might be 40 now and That's an 11.4 difference. The next closest on this chart is Cal with he has six wins above expected. So Tom is a very good tournament coach. Very good. Did you see what he did last year when he got bounced? Yeah. He wrote down, I'm getting back to a deeper run in this tournament or I'm going to die trying. Yeah. He was said that out loud. Yeah. He was, he was literally going to, uh, to kill
Starting point is 00:29:30 himself trying to get back to this point. And he did it. I believe him. Yep. I absolutely believe him. Would love to see Michigan, Michigan state and the elite eight be scenes. That would be scenes Hank. That would, that's a great point. Hank one max zero. That was a great point. I, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not paying attention. Who gets the great point? Hank. I was, I was actually prepping for the next region. No, I'm trying to count as meant how, how many football schools and basketball schools are left. And there's honestly more basketball schools than I thought that. Okay, wait, wait, give us, do you have the number? No, I'm in the process. When you're, when you're ready, interrupt us and tell us. And I want to go down the list and list off every
Starting point is 00:30:17 school because I would like to debate that. Great point, Hank. Michigan, Michigan state would be scenes in the lead eight scenes, scenes, scenes, Michigan State would be seen in the Elite Eight. Scenes. Scenes. Scenes. Get to kiss the logo at center court. Kiss the bracket. I'd like, I'd like Tom Izzo to get back to another Final Four. Because that does feel like, even if Michigan State doesn't win at all,
Starting point is 00:30:37 it would be one of those we can, we can really sit and enjoy Tom Izzo's career. You get the stories written about him, like, this is crazy. He's, you know, 30 years in coaching. He's back to another final four tough to beat a team three times in the same season. Yeah, I wonder if you would. I think you if you're Tom is oh, you'd have to you'd have to just have it on loop of them disrespecting the s Yeah, because they were gonna kiss that ass kiss the s Yeah, you got to kiss that ass
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Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah. So Florida, Yukon, great game. Incredible game. Danny Hurley actually coached an awesome game because if you saw Florida play, the way that they handled their business, you thought that this was, they were just gonna run UConn out of the gym. Yeah. And the way that that UConn kind of like took away some of the strengths that Florida had, this was as good a job that Danny Hurley's done coaching. And then after the game, him saying, I hope they don't fuck you like they fucked us, he he kind of lost his shit.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Danny Hurley lost his shit. A lot of people are upset at Danny Hurley for being a bad loser. I think, I think he would say, yes, I am a bad loser. I think he would agree with those people, but also I don't care. Yeah. I don't care that he's a bad loser. People get upset about Danny Hurley, whatever he does. And, uh, I I'll say it again. He is a bad loser. People get upset about Danny Hurley, whatever he does.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And I'll say it again, the guy wins. Obviously didn't win this game, but he did actually finish. They are still, I think, 14, you know, in their last 14 tournament games against the spread spread covered big time covered. So and he said afterwards, like, we fought like champions. And I actually agree with that. You con was not as good as Florida Yukon fought like a team defending their title and not going out in a sad way And yeah, Danny Hurley is gonna yell about the refs after what did you expect? That's what that's what coaches do
Starting point is 00:35:59 That's what fans do after a game here. Here's the thing I would rather I'd rather Danny Hurley yell that in a camera than a coach be mad about the refs, get up at the podium and just give cliches and lie about everything. You know what else? Maybe, I'm not a doctor, so I can't diagnose him. He might have Tourette's.
Starting point is 00:36:19 He could. He winces a lot during the games. When he drops those F-bombs, it might just be a byproduct of Tourette's. There was a clip too where he might have told've told Luke Murray, uh, his assistant to shut up, shut up. Yeah. But that's just a direct communicator.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Big guy. If you're in the moment, you only have X amount of seconds during a timeout, you gotta be direct into the point. You can't be having side conversations. And it was, it really was like a Florida is a better team. You con had their struggles all year, but their coaching staff is so good. Like watching that first half, they confused the fuck out of Florida. You can runs a very complex offense. It's beautiful to watch and they confused Florida many times. They just couldn't hit the shots. Yeah. Like they had,
Starting point is 00:37:00 they were scheming open wide open shots. They ended up shooting I think 27% from three. That was the difference. They just didn't have the shot making that Walter Clayton has. And Walter Clayton, he is awesome. He is. Yes, he is. He is awesome to watch. Think St. John's could have used him? Probably. Yeah, because he did play for Rick Pitino at Iona, but Walter Clayton is so... He glides on the floor. I don't know what it is. His movement is just so smooth. He's always in rhythm. He's always in rhythm. And that that dagger three that he hit was just a big time shot in a big time moment. And Florida that was that this is why I love the tournament too, because Florida plays in the SEC where it's just constant
Starting point is 00:37:42 up and down scoring, You know, every team scoring 80, 90, it's physical, but then they go and play against Yukon and Yukon throws things at them they haven't seen. And that's why the tournament is so difficult because you can, you can just have one team that has your number on one day and it's it. And to clear something up, I saw what Danny Hurley said after the game. And then I went back to look at maybe some of the calls he was complaining about. And I think the refs called a pretty good game. Yeah. I mean, the refs have not been like awesome in this tournament. They were okay. And also nothing egregious. Florida was just the better team. The better team won.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Yeah. And that's good. I'm glad that we get to see more Florida, but also this was like unexpectedly good performance from you. You can you can fought like a champion. That's like all you can ask for because I did not think they were going to win this game going into this game. And what with five minutes left, I was like, you can might have them here. And that's a credit to you can Florida though is nasty. They're fun to watch too. They just do.
Starting point is 00:38:42 They just shoot threes and dunk. Yep. And it's fun. Okay. Probably the best game of the whole weekend. Probably the best game of the whole tournament. This was the madness. Maryland, Colorado state, Derek Queens, buzzer beater that now is being called the travel and it might've been a travel, but I'm so happy they didn't call it a travel because I wanted to watch a buzzer beater. That was such an awesome big boy move by him. And then afterwards just saying like, are you nervous for the moment? He's like, no, I'm from Baltimore. Yeah. So, so they, they asked him, what play did you call? And he said, I said, who wants the ball?
Starting point is 00:39:18 And then Queen said, give me the motherfucking ball. Yeah. So I gave him the ball. Yeah. Kevin will have said that after. Yeah. He asked everyone in the huddle who wants the ball and he's like I want the fucking ball So Jalen Lake was the guy from Colorado State that hit that shot That then got poor. Yes by by Queen we should do a Mount Rushmore Can we put that Hank? Can you write that down? Maybe next to the bonk list shop before the shot? Yeah, the shots that nobody remembers. Yeah That's like bangers that that just get completely lost to history because Marcus page. Marcus. Oh yeah. Yes. Page. Good one. Very good one. Curse. That
Starting point is 00:39:53 one's a that's a big one. Javon curse catch before Malcolm Butler. Oh, oh yeah. That's good one. Javon curse. Was it Javon curse on curse? Javon Curse was the defensive end. The defensive end from Tennessee. And Philadelphia. You know who I'm talking about. Yeah. You're talking about the guy in the Seahawks who caught it off his butt. Jermaine Curse?
Starting point is 00:40:11 What was his name? It was a great catch by that guy on the sideline. Yeah. Jermaine Curse. Yes. Sorry. Good job. Because we don't remember him.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. We should do that. That banger of a joke in My American Cousin right before Booth got up there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. We should do that. Uh, that banger of a joke in my American cousin, right before booth got up there. Ooh, it was a great joke. Got him. Uh, yeah. This was an awesome game though. And Florida's nasty fun to watch. Oh no, we're talking about Maryland, Colorado state. My brain's fucking done. Craveness March Craveness. I feel bad for Colorado state. I didn't do they were one of the hottest teams going in the tournament. They played awesome. I
Starting point is 00:40:48 mean they beat Memphis and know they were favorites. It was a 12 five. Uh, and then they took Maryland to the brink here and yeah, probably was a travel. But again, who's, you can't call that. You can't call that. That also happens every game and it's never called. We spent the entire weekend saying, why is this on TV? I don't know. No, no, no, no, that you can't call that that also happens every game and it's never called. We we spent the entire weekend saying why is this on TV? I don't know. No, no, no. There's a woman naked who's just like who doesn't have legs. Yeah. Turn it on. Afraid I don't. Why are you looking at me? Turn it off. Turn it off. Yes, it is. Turn it on. No legs. I don't want to see this every time. Turn it on. She's got no legs. Hank, put that on the- I don't want to see this every time. Turn it off.
Starting point is 00:41:27 On the bonk list for yourself that you put that on. And wanted it to just keep it on. Now it's a dude naked walking around. Get it off. Naked and afraid. This is just TBS getting all these ratings from the games. Get it off. Why can't you turn it off? Turn it off. He's not you turn it off? You're Turn it off He's not turning he's actually watching and the longer it stays on the longer I kind of like it Well, thank you would always come on when we were When we're in the old studio in New York American Ninja Warrior
Starting point is 00:42:00 Yeah, that's right. American Ninja Warrior was like our closing time. Time to time to go home. And there's, there's a show that's always on TV in the morning after the NBA playoffs. If you like go to the gym and they still have the TVs on from last night. Yeah. Was it charmed? Is that the one that's always on? Might be charmed. Charmed. Yeah. Yeah. But Colorado state, they played their balls off and oh, what I was going to say is you can't spend all weekend saying there's no madness. And then when there's the one madness that happens, the travel. Yeah. The travel people, a lot of people, when you slow it down, you look at it, he might've taken a gather step, which you can't do in college, but that same play happens all the time. It's never called in real time.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Unless you went to Colorado state, that should not bond. Right. Colorado safe fans, every right to be upset and send that replay everywhere. Everyone else. It was an awesome shot. It was an awesome moment. It was a big boy move. Derek queen is, is really fucking good at basketball. I don't know. We've had this debate, uh, when we've been watching the games, the baggy long sleeves, not a huge fan of, but everything else about Derek Queen is awesome. It just must get super hot. It's crazy. It is kind of nuts.
Starting point is 00:43:12 You must just love a sweat. Although like you see some of the... It's kind of swaggy. You think so? Well it looks different. I think you hit a shot like that too. True. We're gonna remember that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Now everyone's gonna do it. Jokic could probably wear one of those. Gene Sterator said it was not a travel Jean Jean said no travel. Jean Starrator also. Yeah, that's a take. Way too much. Way too much. Let's go to Jean and he'll tell us that the refs got this one right Yeah, I think they got this one right guys. All right. Thanks, Jean. Another way the replays Have got to be fixed. Do you know what many replays minutes ago replays with travel now?
Starting point is 00:43:45 You know, we don't want that You know what they need to do to get the replays like maybe fewer replays every time they do a replay It should just be a solo cam on the ref's face And then we slowly just do like facts about that guy's life And then if you do too many replays eventually it's's just going to be your address. Too many more folks. We're going to post your address online. Like it's just like, Oh, this is what this guy, this is what he likes. This is what he, and it's just, Hey man, you did 15 replays in the last four minutes. Now we know your, you know, your passwords to all your, your computers
Starting point is 00:44:18 and your address and your wife's name. We know everything. I think what you do is line by line. You just show his browser history. Yeah. Right. Something to make it so that like, Hey, we got to do this replay really fast because if we don't, they're going to know that I was on Pornhub an hour before tip. Also gene starts or he's a football school. Yeah. He's not a basketball school. You want to know my number? Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. Uh, it's way more basketball schools than, than I was anticipating. Okay. So go, but say the school and then say whether it's a football or basketball school. Okay. Arkansas football. Yep. Yep. Texas tech. I
Starting point is 00:44:55 put under, I don't know. No, that's football school. It's football school. Okay. But okay. Arizona basketball, Duke basketball, BYU. I I put I don't know. I think kind of just I think yeah yeah yeah. Bama football. Maryland basketball. Yes Florida we said basketball but it's a it's a true 50 50. Yeah I think I think Florida is a bad football. It is. They've also won. Right. Yeah right. But if the award is a football yeah it is a football school but it's like they're so good at basketball. Yeah. Purdue basketball. Yep. Houston basketball. Yep. Michigan football. Auburn football. Kentucky basketball. Tennessee. We said half. I think at the end of the day it's football school. I was more saying half there. I respect their
Starting point is 00:45:41 fans. Okay. Okay. Um, Ole Miss football, Michigan state basketball. Yeah. So good. So what was the total? Well now we, we switched a couple of them and I don't, I don't know how to do this man. No, I think it would be, are we putting, so we're putting Florida floors of football school. So I think that would be seven eight eight football. We got eight eight eight 16. We're gonna get to 16. Yeah, no, that actually makes sense. Eight football, seven basketball, one one beat one more. All right. The graphic
Starting point is 00:46:21 get it. Okay. Texas Tech, Drake Text sex is just as good as better than Drake. Ben McCollum, the big, I feel bad for Drake. They have lost their coach in back to back years. Uh, Darren DeVries went to West Virginia now in Indiana. Ben McCollum goes to Iowa. And that sucks because they finally avoided the Drake meltdown. Then they went up against Texas Tech and JT Toppin who was, I think he was 11 for fifth 13 from the field. Just an absolute beast. And yeah, that sucks for Drake. That's it. That's the kind of guy where it's like if, if Drake had that, that mystery billionaire in IL money, you're not going to get a guy like JT Toppin that's going to be able to do that. Right. And Ben McCollum is a
Starting point is 00:47:07 really good coach and he's from Iowa and it was kind of obvious that he was going to go to Iowa. Hank will see he can play fast. He played fast in his division three when he won national titles there. He played very slow at Drake, but I think that was more because that's what he had. Here's the Texas Tech, maybe a basketball school stat, Texas Tech. Uh, they have gone to four sweet 16s over the last seven tournaments with three different coaches. Pretty impressive. That is pretty cool. Yeah. To do it with three different coaches in that short of amount of time. That's culture. You know what? I'm willing to hear arguments from Texas Tech students and alumni
Starting point is 00:47:44 about basketball school. Yeah. After hearing that stack because I was not aware. I just knew Chris Beard and now yeah. Beard Adams. And then now obviously Grant McCaslin, who's their coach. Yeah. So that's that is a strong, compelling argument for Texas Tech basketball school. I just feel like the football runs. So I agree with them, but it's just they deserve a lot of credit because going to that for sweet 16s and seven years with three different coaches is very hard to do. It's bullshit that they wouldn't let the Drake Bulldog in again. And Jeffrey was there. Shout out Jeffrey. Did memes, you have something? Who would you point to memes? Memes got nothing. Memes, give me a taste. I coughed. I went like, Oh, uh, okay. Last one. Best
Starting point is 00:48:26 one in this region. One would probably talk the most about Arkansas St. John's. Now this game, if you're someone who is like, man, I wish we could watch, I wish it was 90s basketball again. This was the game for you. Uh, outside of the fact that they still took 41 three pointers between the two teams, they made four of them. It was bad. 9.7%. Uh, this was 90s basketball was physical. It was hard fought. They, they took a lot of three points, didn't make a lot of three pointers. It was ugly, ugly, ugly, but Arkansas out St. John's St. John's. And this was, this was what every St. John's fan was, was fearful in the back of their mind where they were like, we know we can't shoot if we get into a game where we're not shooting. And then RJ Lewis, who's the biggest player of the year got benched because he was so bad. I don't even understand too, when people were like, how
Starting point is 00:49:24 do you have them benched? Like, did you watch the game? Yeah, he was very bad. He was so bad. I don't even understand too when people were like, how do you have him benched? Like did you watch the game? Yeah, he was very bad. He was so bad. He had a bad night I yeah, but if he's your best person, he was so bad though But if you rode if that's the horse you rode in on like but he was making like he was not only Like missing shots. He was like fucking up their offense bad. I Still think you gotta play him in a close game. I agree. I think you have to be willing to say he's our best player. One of these has to go in. If we lose because he's out there, that's fine. We'll go down with the ship. What do you end up
Starting point is 00:49:53 shooting three for 17? Yeah. He was bad. Don't get me wrong. He was bad. And then Patino said he played 30 minutes. That's a long time. And in Rick Patino's history 30 minutes is a very very very long time. That's Like that's like four that's like 120 or the guys off the bench played more minutes than him Yeah, can Dario Richmond fouled out? It was it was a fun game because of the storylines. I don't know if you guys read any of the stories beforehand I love the Cal Patino rivalry because they refused to admit that they hate each other's guts, like hate each other's guts. And they refused to actually say it where the Patino before the game, I think on Friday he said, we don't, we don't know
Starting point is 00:50:39 each other's wives or children. We're not really close friends. I don't know a whole lot about him except he's a terrific basketball coach. I think you know a lot about, you know, everything he was literally Petito was his camp counselor when, when, uh, in a basketball camp, when, when cow was growing up, that's when they first met. They've known each other for 50 plus years. They've crisscrossed a million different ways. These guys know as much about the other guy as it's possible for a grown man to know about another grown man. There's no question about it. They've been and they're very similar guys. Yeah. But they're yeah, they're Italian. They're basketball coaches. They hate each other. They won't admit they hate each other. They're even I didn't even know this. There's like this lore that when Patino was at Kentucky and cow was Louisville. So, Patino was a, yeah, he was a Kentucky before that. Cal was going to get the job at UMass. Patino went to UMass. Patino says that he voted for Cal to get that job. And there's like, Lord, that that did not happen.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And Cal will say it like sir, castly, be like, thanks so much for my career. He got me my job. You so much dude. And like, there's this whole, there's, it's like a very mysterious, there was closed door meetings where he actually was, he was vouching for the other guy going up for the job, not Cal. And then he took credit for vouching for Cal afterwards so that they have essentially the same career They started out they coached in the Northeast they tried to go to the NBA Mm-hmm didn't work out a chip played each other when they were the Nets and Celtics. Yeah went back stayed in Kentucky
Starting point is 00:52:18 Stayed in Tennessee for the other guy then went to Kentucky and now they're now they're going up against each other One more time of the tournament. They have had very similar careers. They know each other extremely well. And this is Cal. Cal is now three and two in the tournament against Patino. Uh, and I think he's won. I wrote it down. He's won 10 out of 11 out of the last 13 or nine out of the last 11 against Patino. So he's kind of owning him right now. And this is his fourth team that he's taken to the final four or to be 16. Yeah. His first time in this in the sweet 16 since 2019.
Starting point is 00:52:54 So he wasn't able to do it with Kentucky when they were three, six and two seed. But I just love it. Oh, the other one that I love from Patino. He said when they asked him about the rivalry with Cal, he was like, I only had one rival. It was Jim Calhoun. I like that. Such a nag. Just being like, I never considered Cal rival. And then, but it's so clear. They just despise each other. They both had stuff vacated. Yeah. They started barking at each other during the game too. Yeah. It was great. And how she comes to Villanova. Oh, that was, he should. Yeah. You can't pay the money that Arkansas is paying him. I know, but he's got
Starting point is 00:53:31 Philly roots kind of that. I mean, it would be, he belongs in the big East. He belongs in the big East. Oh man, that would be so, that would be awesome. Cause they do always just crisscross even when, even when Cal took Memphis, uh, he Louisville was in their conference for a couple of years. Yeah. So yeah, we, we need it. We, we, we need it, but it was, it was a great game. Arkansas. I, is this Cal's best coaching job? Did you see how, how quick the handshake happened at the end of the game? The game was still going on. Yeah. Like I think that they're like maybe five seconds remaining on the clock and Kalin Pitino like right in each other's face. Quick handshake, a handshake that fast. They don't like each other. No, they hate each other,
Starting point is 00:54:14 but they won't say it. They won't say it. And it's so awesome saying Jim Calhoun was my only rival is so awesome. They also might love each other. You think they'd think if they ever got in the room together and they it was just two of them they'd start kissing. I think what would happen would be they'd start fighting and then they start wrestling and then they'd stop like what are we doing? We love each other. We love each other. I've wanted to do this for years. I am very interested to see what happens with RJ Luis because I think he's got another year and that was an all time like Patino were winning my way or no way. Yeah. You know, so will he stay? I assume he'll stay and will he have a redemption moment? And then Patino style still can work in today's
Starting point is 00:54:59 college basketball where it's like, you could be hard on your guys, you can bench your guys, but you'll, you'll get to the mountain top with your guys. It does feel like a moment that we look back on in a year and we're like, remember that they show Like a clip during the game. Yeah, he's gonna have a big moment Here's him on the on the bench for the second half of that game against Arkansas and then he has a great game Yeah, I was out there and crushes it. It's like complete redemption. It's like yeah, you know got got that out of them I I personally would have kept him in the game, but Patino, he might be a better basketball coach than me. He coaches his way. He's been doing it for a very long time. But yeah, is this Cal's best coaching job? Oh, and five to start the SEC schedule. He talked a lot about how it's
Starting point is 00:55:37 like he said this is rewarding as years I had I've had based on how far we've come. It is impressive. I mean, he, he remember the first day he was at Arkansas, he's like, talk to the team, have no team. Uh, it's not, it was, it was kind of like Cal, cause Cal, like you said, Cal and Patino are very similar. They, they Cal, his career has like been the underdog stuff until he went to Kentucky because he was at UMass. He was at Memphis, which wasn't like a blue blood. Kentucky made him soft. Now he's going back. Arkansas has got basketball history, but they're not the, you know, they're not Kentucky. Now he's kind of the underdog 40 minutes. Yeah, he's feeling himself. Do
Starting point is 00:56:22 we think Kentucky was holding Coach Cal back? It was making him soft. It was making him cater too much to getting the star players there because they cared so much about the recruiting. Now he's going to... I like that. Coach Cal is now a great coach. Now he's free from the pressures.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Right. It was too luxurious in Lexington for him. Now he's got to get back to his roots and coach basketball. He's on a role in Little Rock. Yeah. Now he's got to get back to his roots and coach basketball. He's on a role in Little Rock. Yeah. On the flip side, is this season a disappointment for what the Johnny's? No, I do not think so. Disappointment? I mean, they won the big East. The second year in a full rebuild, they won the big East. And again, I think the tournament is so chaotic and so hard to win that like you can't if they were if they were
Starting point is 00:57:06 a Florida they didn't have the talent of a Florida or a Duke or Auburn they they had a very good team but it wasn't like we all thought this could happen where they just don't make their shots. Yeah it turns out that having having good shot making ability on our team is important to winning basketball games. It's like they built the entire team out of Ben Simmons if there was no basket This would be a great team Yeah, if this is your best if this was year five at Patino and st. John's they hadn't been to a sweet 16 I think you could definitely say that what do you what do you think I would like to take a point away from Hank? I was bad take you don't get you don't get to
Starting point is 00:57:39 He was actually asking a question. It was a question Max. We had to hear your appeal. You can appeal it I would I would appeal. Wait, appeal what question? What's the difference between a point and a question? Hank asks a question. That was a good thought starter. Actually now it's two one Hank. That was a good thought starter. That was so obviously wrong. You can ask a question. That's a question that will be asked on a premier sports show today or tomorrow. Yes. Yeah, you just did it Yeah, no, I'm like a television. Oh, no, no point back wrong point max television program You just did it on a premiere sports show on a television program as well premiere sports show. I thought that was a good thought starter
Starting point is 00:58:16 Thank you, Hank. You're welcome. I thought it was a bad thought starter deduction for max It's too high. Thank you. You're shooting in the big East and you don know make the sweet 16 That's disappointing. We should be keeping score between the two of them Contribute this to show every it's too. Nothing right now No, most dangerously in part of my take this is fun to do you don't know It's not a competition. Then you just try to take a point away from me. That's yeah max You did get a point for the football basketball school thing But then we had to take it away for trying to interrupt Hank's question that was a good thought starter. I think that was, I think that was stupid.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Okay. Two nothing. Max, why do you think it's a stupid question? Don't Max, don't you only care about the big East? We know the answer. Don't the expectations. Big East isn't even in the sweet 16. But so how good was the conference? Don't they have to have higher expectations? St. John's was a dumpster fire before Patino went there. The coaches that they brought, they were just a revolving door of bad, bad coaches that underperformed and were very disappointing year after year. Patino in his second year won the Big East and with a two seed in the tournament and
Starting point is 00:59:24 lost one game. Which is basically a mid-nature, they and with the two seed in the tournament and lost one game. So you like St. John, like what Patino is on for St. John. An accomplishment in not making the sweet 16, it's the same thing. He's giving terrible points. Good debate. Well no, because Hank's point is that the Big East doesn't have any teams left. So how good. But it's still winning your conference.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Does that still getting a two seed. Yeah, but does that subtract from how impressive winning the Big East was? Mm-hmm. I Mean you can't law you can't lost to Florida by two points today And everyone is saying that Florida is the best team in the country like you could like it's still a competitive Confidence you actually made his point because it's a down year for you con They don't have a good team this year. So that's a minus point for the Big East Did you just lose another point? Yeah, Yukon What do you mean Yukon was in that in that game the entire game against the best team in the country?
Starting point is 01:00:12 They had a down year for their team, but it's still a good team I mean, yes, it's a down year for the Big East, but you still win the Big East I started this conversation off by fully agreeing with you max and the more we talk about the more I'm seeing Hanks point you are just forcing yourself to see Hanks point I know you're not you're not making any points to the contrary yeah I just gave you the whole point about st. John's st. John's went through horrible coach after horrible coach and then they win the big East under Rick Pitino second year is a plus to the program. Is this going to end up being like a Menendez thing where we pit them against each other then they kill both of us?
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yes. Yes. I like this. No, it was a stupid question. Max is right. Like obviously St. John's is happy with the way the season went. Yes. Yes, Hank.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You get the chance to rebut. Better or worse question than the Iowa State code question. Uh. The bout is bad. Yeah. It's like, I wasn't asking the question, Hank. Yes, thank you get the chance to rebut better or worse question than the Iowa State code question Bound is bad Yeah, it's like I wasn't asking the question Hank. I was asking if it's time to prepare to even have the conversation Yes All right Let's take another break and then we'll keep going through the bracket. This fun boys We're having fun, even though our brains are are basically mush. We'll get back to the games in a second
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Starting point is 01:04:21 probably will do this year, I will start hating him. Uh, like I hated coach K but Duke also has they fucking, I, I hate them to say something nice about Duke. The fact that Duke has their fucking human victory cigar being a five, eight guy named Spencer Hubbard is so funny. Wearing 55 that guy out on the court today. He's 27 and oh when he gets into a game he was so funny. What a preposterous number. What a preposterous height. Like just ridiculous. What's his story? Where was he from? He's from LA I believe. Uh, he probably he probably was the best college basketball player, you know, in his high school. Uh, and I think he was a walk on and he's, he's just, I love, I love when teams have human
Starting point is 01:05:13 victory cigars and the fact that he's five eight makes it so much better because it's so clear when he's out there, just how ridiculous it looks. That's what I love about these guys. What do you average that he might be the best player to ever play sports at his high school? Wait, wait, what do you average 13 at 4? Oh, so no So how was he on dude and he went to wait Harvard Westlake, I'm pretty sure that's like that Is that where brawny went? Westlake is like one of the nicest. Yeah, he probably played on a team with all division one So God wait, but now now we're connecting some dots.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Did LeBron get this guy to Duke? Maybe. Did JJ? I'm a Spencer Hubbard fan. I fucking hate that I am, but I am. He's so funny when he gets out there. I thought Proctor was really good. Jeremy Lin went there.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Obviously. Jeremy Lin. Yeah, no, I mean Duke is just so good. They have so many guys. And, and... He went 7 for eight from three content Can't open was like he was he was bad for the first part of the game And then he had he had this drive on the baseline where he dunked one home
Starting point is 01:06:14 He's like, oh, yeah that guy's out there and he's really fucking good, too Spencer is the great grandson of Washington Duke the guy that founded Duke, the father of the person who raised the movement of Trinity college from Randolph County to Durham in 1892 and provided financial support thereafter. I love that guy. That's hilarious. Jeremy Lynn did not go there. Okay. Another point. Take it away from Max Max. Can you look up the other, the other storyline that we have going on in this tournament is the Montverde team from last year. Crazy. Cause Derek Queen was on it. Cooper flag. And then one of his teammates who was on Baylor was playing on in this game.
Starting point is 01:06:57 What they, they must've won every game by a billion, right? I want to know what their stats were. Yeah. What was their rec? I know they didn't lose a game, how is this even who is Batman and who was Robin on that team? Like could you imagine? I don't even know what they where is Mont Verde Mont Verde New York Green Mountain, I'm gonna say New York It feels like a New York. Where is it? It's a New York or it's like a DMV. I thought it was like Maryland Yeah, Maryland is it Maryland? Is it a is it a real? Is it a real school or is it a, uh, like AI Academy or whatever the fuck it's
Starting point is 01:07:33 called? No, I think it's, I think it's real, but it's, it's basketball focused Florida, Florida. So I think it's maybe not a real, is it a real school or is it everyone just moves to Florida to be awesome at basketball? Do they they're there? It's definitely not a public school. No. Yeah. Prep school.
Starting point is 01:07:52 So imagine being on like playing prep basketball and being like a five eight kid and then you just show up and it's Derek Queen and Cooper flag. Yeah. Mike. So there are 33 and oh they wanted to get their first game of the year. Like the poor South Lake. That's brutal. Look up the look up the stats for that game. It will also find us the championship game because I'm curious. I'm curious to see how bad they won. So the championship game, they won 79 63. So they
Starting point is 01:08:28 didn't, they didn't play it. Do they play any close games? Do they have a single game that was close? What a wagon of a team. It's crazy. Yeah. So, uh, Robert Wright, uh, Cooper flag, Derek Queen, Liam McNeely who plays at UConn. They have everyone. Everyone was good. Okay. So, oh, no, no. Uh, they all are good. Is that Oak Ridge? They only beat 78 to 72. Oh wow. Tough game. Prolific prep. It looks like twice. They, they had close games with them. 78, 72 and then 76, 71. Prolificific prep that does sound like a fake school that sounds like bishop whatever. Did you imagine being like honestly playing playing against them?
Starting point is 01:09:14 That would suck so bad. Yeah memes has his hand raised. Yes memes. The 2020 Mountfort roster is like one of the greatest rosters of all time. Oh, it was Max pull up but it's like Cade Cunningham Scotty Barnes. He's got his league I'm still taking Moses one of the in Chino Hills nem hard They had like five NBA players, so it's not a real school now. They just get everyone to come Yeah, Cade Cunningham Moses Moodyody, Ryan Nemhardt, Scotty Barnes, Future Faces League.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Damn. Hank, who'd you got? 2016 Chino Hills. Who's on that team? The Balls. Oh, Point Hank over Memes. Point Hank. That would suck so much to have to go play against them.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Just put it on your head, Memes. What do you even do? What do you do if you're a junior or a sophomore in prep school Florida and you're let's say 510 you haven't hit your growth spurt yet and you have to D up Cooper flag. Yeah, I would fake an injury. Yeah, Titus did say that that would be a diarrhea game. Yeah, I would I would it wouldn't be fake diarrhea No, but mine wouldn't be fake Like I would see that on the on the calendar and then two days before I would drink expired milk. Yeah Yeah, but this graphic was this is the Washington Redskins graphic of the tournament. Yeah, I saw it every single game It's everywhere. Yeah, it is everywhere. But Duke is awesome. I don't really know what what do you guys have any thoughts on Baylor Baylor boys?
Starting point is 01:10:47 Experian bra right was electric. He was fun to watch edge comb great physical guy as combs gonna be in the NBA Yeah, Jeremy Roche should have stayed. I don't know why he left. Yes Oh, he left we got pushed out he left because he thought he was getting pushed out and then he wanted to start and then he went to Baylor and then He's getting pushed out and then he wanted to start and then he went to Baylor and then Wright showed up and then he kind of got edged out there tough break. I like Roach. Yeah What are you looking up now Pacific prep? I'm looking at like who's good on the the team that played them close last year And look they have this guy the 7 million guy for BYU. Oh
Starting point is 01:11:25 That game probably made him $7 million. Yeah, played them tight. I gotta watch some tape on this team. Probably so sick. I wish we had Bosco here. He probably could have told us every game. Watch the ball. All right, Oregon, Arizona.
Starting point is 01:11:41 That was a fun game. Caleb Love was nuclear. Five for or seven from three 29 points. I so I don't know where you stand on this, but like, obviously conference realignment sucks, but it was very cool to see an old school rivalry in that kind of setting early in the tournament, which normally wouldn't have been able to happen. Right. So when, when those two teams play each other, even though they're in different conferences right now, in my mind, it just throw that all that out. We it's a pack 12 game.
Starting point is 01:12:13 We had a moment on Sunday night where we had pack 12 after dark back. Yeah. Bill Walton was watching that game from heaven smiling. And I think Arizona moves on because they won that pack 12 game. I think now it's ACC Pac 12. Yeah. Yeah. And it's Duke in Arizona. Yeah. Duke in Arizona, which is they played in national title. Love was on that team. Love was on Duke. Yeah. Oh no. And UNC UNC. Yeah. Yeah. UNC. No, I'm saying Duke in Arizona played in national title way back in back in the
Starting point is 01:12:41 day when it was 99. Yeah. Miles Simon. But yeah, this was an awesome game to watch. It was fun. Oregon just they got they got outworked on the glass a little bit. Yeah, they fought hard couple bounces didn't go their way. Those two missed free throws and then the ball going out of bounds took the possession away. That was that felt like that was the end. Yeah, Dana Altman, very good coach. He's in that, uh, the chart. I, I, I brought up earlier for Tom is, oh, the chart is Tom is, oh, God of March. He's his own tier. And then there's the trust them blindly tier and it's Cal Hurley, Dana Altman, Rick Patino and Chris beard. They all have significant wins over expected, uh, average. Would you think about the ducksucks-Uni's?
Starting point is 01:13:25 The fighting Ducks. I liked them. You liked the fighting Ducks? They popped. It was some a little bit different. Yeah, I'm happy we had a competitive game to finish off the weekend because it did feel like we were missing something.
Starting point is 01:13:35 And I wish we had had, here's the take. I think that you should get to foul up three once. So I was thinking about this, cause I don't like it as a viewer. I don't suck. The strategy is actually great. It's very good strategy. And you should do it as a coach. But as a viewer, when you get the ball and you're down three, like everyone has that anticipation of they can make a shot and tie the game.
Starting point is 01:13:58 We take it away. It kind of sucks. I just don't know how they'd be able to change that rule without also changing the rule of if you're losing foulingling intentionally. Right. You know, like do you, how many of those do you get? Because it's the same, it's the same strategy. It's just, it's no fun when the rabbits got the gun. What, what about if you, you can follow up three once the second time they get three, three shots, but you probably wouldn't want to do it. I think they should just be more, more lenient with, is it a shooting motion? Yeah. I just, it just, it does rob. It is smart strategy, but it robs us of,
Starting point is 01:14:31 of big time moments where you just like to see it be played out. So I, I don't know, like one time would be fun where you, then a strategy of when do we use it? You know, you get it one time. An intentional foul. When you're up three. Exactly up three. In the last, you get one chance. In intentional foul I'm sorry, you're up exactly up three in the last you get one chance in the last minute of the game Yeah, I'm down with that. I also in because just dumb ideas as your brain slowly melts into basketball
Starting point is 01:14:56 It'd be kind of fun to do one game where You shoot to you miss on free throw line You just wouldn't foul. Yeah, right. But imagine, I also like he went on like a 20 Oh run because the guy just got hot on the free throw. I loved what Arizona did at the end when they would put what's his name? Delorce. So in yeah, the skinny kid, it's like here's our foul shooter. And then every single time they just skimmed him open. That was his only purpose really. Yeah, at the end, they skimmed him open off the inbounds play and Oregon had no choice but to foul the one guy
Starting point is 01:15:28 They didn't want to foul. Yeah. Yeah Okay BYU, Wisconsin this game sucked for me. Well, let me say this BYU was awesome. They hit every three. They're really good Saunders I hate that guy, but he's so fucking good at basketball I also I Had I was going good at basketball. I also I Had I was going into this game. I was like this I thought it was a 50-50 game Just because I know how good BYU is and it was like whichever team makes their threes
Starting point is 01:15:55 And then when BYU came out in the Duke uniforms that didn't help and also it was like a home home crowd for BYU Yeah, dude out to it sucked. But yeah. Altshude. Altshude. It sucked. It sucked. I'll say this. Wisconsin fought their balls off. In past years they have just gotten punched in the mouth and died.
Starting point is 01:16:14 And they actually, I mean- Something got hit in the balls and came back to life. Yeah. I wish Tange had shot a three there at the end. I wish they'd drawn something up. They kind of just like, hey, I mean he was incredible, but I wish that we had had one prayer of a three there at the end. I wish they'd drawn something up. They kind of just like, Hey, I mean, he was incredible, but I wish that we had had one prayer over three and it sucked. And then I did the fake Bitcoin tweet saying my phone got hacked and then Twitter locked me out for 16 hours. So that was kind of funny. It was a boy who cried
Starting point is 01:16:42 wolf. It was, you've done the fake hack tweet probably 20 times and every time big cat does this fucking tweet He doesn't think about the people around him that get the they get the collateral damage We have people hitting all of us up being like hey, just so you guys know big cats account got hacked But it's a very funny tweet and it's a it's a good strategy This time I caught up to you so you can get back in until when I got it back in Halftime of Florida you can today so I I did it we were live streaming I was like oh man I got hacked again
Starting point is 01:17:14 and then we finished the stream and I'm going home and I get home and I pull up Twitter and it just says it like I it's just the blank icons like yeah Do you want to create a Twitter account? yeah, I was like what the fuck X and then X the everything app and And I texted our social guys like I think I'm out. I think I got Booted I think X Deleted my Bitcoin tweet. That's good So and then I had to send them I had to fill out a report and my report was was my exact phrasing
Starting point is 01:17:48 It was just very funny that it actually ended up being okay because I just went to sleep instead of just mindlessly Scrolling Twitter and getting more and more upset about Wisconsin losing I had to write so as the help center Description of the problem. I said I did a fake tweet about being hacked as a bit because the Badgers lost in the tournament and I was sad. Yeah. The best is when you, when you do those tweets, sometimes I get texts from people, mutual friends of ours. Like people that know Big Cat and know me, but I get a text saying, Hey, just so you know, can you tell Big Cat his account got hacked? And I'm like, you could just text like his phone didn't get hacked. Well, it might, maybe you can text. And I'm like, you could just text like his phone didn't get hacked. Well, it might, maybe you can text that to our social guys always text me like they finally figured it out. But for the longest time they'd be like, Hey, I think you just got hacked. Um, yeah. And
Starting point is 01:18:33 I'll get a bunch of messages to being like, dude, you got hacked. Yeah. I think, I think I I'm not retiring it, but now I guess I have to alert X beforehand being like, Hey, I got an important game. and if things go wrong like they always do I will be doing this tweet so I don't have to be online for a little bit. I wonder if somebody actually- When you go back to PS5's and not the Bitcoin. You think Bitcoin was what tipped me? Maybe and also I think there's-
Starting point is 01:18:57 I was trying to change it up. There's probably a good chance that someone started a shit coin based off that tweet like someone who was really in on the bit. I don't know what you call it. It was a bit and they want to start a coin after it. I made a, I made up the whole number. Yeah. I just typed in random things. So we had the game suck. Here's the thing. I like it. The worst part about the tournament and this is now more so because of the transfer program and I L I loved watching this badger team. They were so much fun. I watched every
Starting point is 01:19:32 game. I loved watching them play. I love Tonjay, Steven Kraus been at Wisconsin forever, Max Clemson, like all these guys. And that's the part it's, it's a, it's weirder than pro sports where pro sports you're like, damn, my team lost this fucking sucks. But next year we'll be, we'll be back and we got the same team in college sports. It's it's, it's like a more sentimental of, I really just wanted to see Tonje play another game for the Badgers and I don't get to do that. So it's, it's a different type of sadness.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That's not, I don't know. do that. So it's, it's a different type of sadness. That's not, I don't know. I'm not expressing it. Well, I was bummed, but BYU played better. So I can't really say anything. No, I get it. That it's like a small era of your life is over. Right. I'll never see John Tange play for Badgers again. We live our lives in, in specific areas. If you're a fan of a pro team, those areas, the window is large. Right. If you're a college team, it's like you have to, you have to do something with these guys. And it just gets ripped from you so suddenly that it just sucks. I just wanted to, I wanted to watch them play another game. I wanted
Starting point is 01:20:34 to see, I think they were, they had a very good year. I think they were a dangerous team. They got a shitty draw in having to play six games in 10 days in altitude, but that's just how it works sometimes. What do you think about the ejection for the nut shot? Because the nut shot, I think that's against the Mormon code of conduct. I think it's actually very, very against it. I said when watching the game, I don't, I think the ref should ref BYU based on Mormon laws. If they swear they should be ejected. If you touch another man's penis as a Mormon, you are kicked out of the church
Starting point is 01:21:05 Yeah Yeah, I mean I it's he did like drive his elbow into his nuts. I don't know I They they call that a flagrant all the time and in college basketball Like if you hit someone in the head or you hit someone under below the waist you get kicked out. Mm-hmm It sucks. It was ball to a lie though.. Yeah. But yeah, the game sucked. And. You really you really can't do the two for one thing that they fucked up at the end of the first half. That was so bonehead.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And I also like when it really comes down to it this entire season. You can't lose to Penn State in the last game of the season at home, because if you don't lose to Penn State, you probably get the three in Milwaukee and you don't have to play a really good BYU team that probably should have been higher than a six seed. So screwed ourselves, but yeah, I'm bummed. It sucks. I'm not a math guy, but I get frustrated when I watch games when coaches screw up the two for one. Yeah. At the end of the game, it happens a lot. Well, what happened in this game, especially in the first half was BYU plays at a breakneck space and we tried to match that pace and you just can't play as fast as there's very few teams that can play as fast as BYU plays.
Starting point is 01:22:15 So if you try to do that with them, you're going to just have these boneheaded moments where you have 12 seconds left in the, in the the first half you take a two and then they come down to hit hit a three So also I memes I think I've become a BYU lever though really good because they're so fun to watch they don't miss Oh, I'm rooting for him against Bama for obvious reasons It's gonna be a great game because both those teams love to run so I'm pumped to watch that one. But yeah memes is right Point means BYU lever memes. Did you get all the tweets off that you wanted to get off? Yeah, I got them all off. I was rooting for you though Oh, thanks. I appreciate that. I know you know you weren't zero percent I root for all your teams to make to the championship and lose. Okay, that's fair. I believe that on BYU
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, I took a money line. So you For me, so that's a lie. I didn't expect you to root for me. No, I was rooting for you No, you know you weren't you don't get credit. You, you said you were B BYU lever. You get credit for being right about that. You bet on BYU. You get credit for right. Being right about that. You don't also get credit for saying I was rooting for you too. No, no, but I like you and I like you too. You can't have all of them. You were right about the game. You don't also be like, yeah, I was rooting for you. Man sucked. It was a fun comeback though. It was an awesome comeback. I just fucking wish they had they had
Starting point is 01:23:37 completed it yet. BYU What is whose line is it anyway? Let me look at that real quick. I think we said it was what three and a half. No, no the total. Oh total 180 Five no, that'll be way too. I don't mean one 70 for me. I'm just held up a five That was a seven one said oh, that was a seven kind of yeah one seventy four. I mean they're gonna simulate a gun Yeah, probably take that over like 74 and a half. But then BYU sometimes they don't make their threes. They were making all their threes. They're good though. Saunders I hate that guy. I really do because he's so good and his face pisses me off. But he's really
Starting point is 01:24:15 good. Smooth. All right. Last one was the worst game of the weekend. I would say Bama St. Mary's. Yeah, it was gross. It was gross. Just neither team could make a shot. Ugly turnovers. It was bad. St. Mary's just they couldn't make a layup. They're not good. I mean, they're good in their conference and they beat Gonzaga in conference play. And then they get into the tournament and you have to play so perfect when you play that slow and they're just they couldn't did they hit a single three I think they hit one at the end I think they had to they had to do too I know they broke the seal at the end but they've been on they've had these games before where they just don't
Starting point is 01:24:57 make three-pointers and they if you're not gonna make threes you at least have to make all your layups when you get to the hoop and they were not making lay yeah and I'm I wasn't impressed with Bama this weekend. No. Robert Morris gave him a fight and St. Mary's, if they could just hit a shot, would have been in that game. Like that. We were watching that game saying the entire time Bama should be up by like 25 because St. Mary's was playing so bad and they didn't pull away. I mean, they were up 10 for the majority of the game, but they should have just stopped them. That was, that was one of my takes. That was the worst college basketball game I think
Starting point is 01:25:30 I've ever seen. It was paid. It was so bad, like boring and bad to watch. It was just St. Mary's missed shot. And then a 50 50 chance. Bama would hit a shot or turn the ball over. And that was it. So yeah, Alabama is one in three this year when they score fewer than 80 points and St. Mary's had enough looks where they should have. They should have scored some points against them. It was not a good defensive performance from Alabama. And they just, it was so frustrating. They were getting wide open looks. They were getting wide open layups. Just couldn't make a single one of them. Max, Are you worried at all about Bama going to the final four?
Starting point is 01:26:07 Yeah, I mean, it's only two games away, but I think it's it's not an easy path Yeah Cuz max you have to road trip down to San Antonio And I would have to go to the same areas is the worst team ever worst team I've ever watched and they went over they They went to 16 from three two games ago Fucking seven see they suck Duke is what so like infinitely better the only chance Bama has is Caleb love you know Caleb love no black magic oh Arizona yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't even have you're not even giving Bama. No to God
Starting point is 01:26:42 It's someone else has to do it before that yeah Yeah, that would be a problem if Duke got bounced just for the Bama problem. Yeah. I don't understand how Mark Sears was so good last year and I just feel like he's lost his touch like around the rim shooting through these. Another take. They tried too many alley-oops. Every single time down the court, they just try an alley-oop. Yeah. Like, there's got, I get it, if you run it well, it's an efficient play.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Yeah. But just play some basketball. Stop trying to do an alley-oop every single possession. They do score a lot of points. Yeah, they do. Yeah. They turn the ball over. That was a good counterpoint.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Take another point away from Max. All right. I'm only getting the ball over. That was a good counterpoint. Take another point away from Max. All right. Too many. I'm only getting points taken away. It was a counterpoint. I mean, yes, Max, running too many alley-oops, I guess that's a fair take, but is the alternative missing layups?
Starting point is 01:27:36 True. Alley-oop is a pretty high percentage shot. Yeah, but they don't always convert on the alley-oop. That's true. Sometimes they turn the ball over trying to do trying to alley oop it. Yeah. Okay. What do you think the record for most alley oops in the game is? Florida golf city. Yeah, dunk city. We should be able to bet on that. That should be a line. Has to be dunk city. Okay. Well, one last break and then we'll do the Midwest and then we'll do big picture stuff and who's back.
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Starting point is 01:30:10 He is in love with Gonzaga because he was correcting reporters pronunciation. I know Gonzaga earlier in the week He had yeah, he was like very he was a Gonzaga defender. Yeah, I gotta be honest with this game I was focused on the Tennessee game I didn't I kept one eye on the score at the end of it. I saw Gonzaga just fighting their way back into it and a game that Houston probably should have won by 10 to 15 points. Um, but I, I'm not worried about Houston. I'm going to say this about Houston. I want Houston fans to chime in. I feel like Houston, uh, they're there, the regular Houston, they can shoot better than, you know, Houston a few years ago and they could tell me if I'm way off, but Houston elbow three is always,
Starting point is 01:30:53 is always money. That's where they hit all their threes. I don't know why, what it is, but I just feel like every time I watch a Houston game, it's, it's right there. They don't hit like a ton of corner threes. They don't hit a bunch at the top of the arc that that spot. They just, if, if one of their guys catches a ball in rhythm there, it's always going in and you're like, Holy shit, Houston can shoot. Oh, this is interesting stat. Alabama is one of four programs to make it to the sweet 16 and for the last five seasons, Houston, uh, Gonzaga was on that list no longer. Can you name the other one for our last five or the last five?
Starting point is 01:31:31 Are they? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oregon was on that list or no Oregon? No. Well, I'm talking about right as of right now. As of right now, they have four of last five. Zorgan definitely Baylor nope Baylor lost is it a power five school it is we just talked about him It's not Texas. It's not Texas Tech
Starting point is 01:31:58 It's not BYU Auburn Florida it's not Auburn Arizona no Mmm, you are you no Bama no Michigan State we are well Bama is one we are said that though Ole Miss St. Mary's no St. Mary's never goes no Arkansas yes oh yeah must must must that's a must that is a must that mm-hmm I was right there that was good lost that. I was right there. That was good. We're just reading the bracket. You're gonna get it. Yeah, Houston's very good. Yeah. I'm not happy. This is why I'm very excited for these
Starting point is 01:32:35 sweet 16 lead eight and final four because all these one seeds are so fucking good. Yeah, I'm not worried about Houston. The fact that they let Gonzaga back into it's it's tough to close out in March. Yeah. And Gonzaga was a very good team too. Yeah. What they did to Georgia was a Georgia unspeakable. Yeah. Yeah. Literally unspeakable. Yeah. We should not speak of Georgia. Okay. Purdue versus McNeese. This was the classic early Saturday game upstart plucky underdog. And you're like, Oh yeah, that's why produce Purdue and McNeese is McNeese. Yeah. The manager from McNeese, uh,
Starting point is 01:33:12 people were having a conversation about him. People got, why did they show them? People got sick of them and I don't blame him. I blame, I blame just society and the internet. Yes. And NIL, cause you have to blame NIL, but it's, this is a story that I think would have been a blip that people would have loved if it was 10, 15, 20 years ago. Yes. The fact that it's happening right now, we hate everything.
Starting point is 01:33:35 You give us one week of finding out things and reading news stories about one guy, we're going to start to hate that one guy. I also have a theory about it. A side note, I didn't love that he wasn't the one who went and got the Jersey. That also was a problem. It's like that. That is your day job. He got a little, little Hollywood, wasn't going to get, there was a, there was a Jersey ripped early in the game for McNeese. I don't know if you heard, I don't get jerseys. Okay. I
Starting point is 01:33:58 don't clean those jerseys anymore. Amir Khan aura going to NC state with will Wade, which is kind of fun. I do like that. I transfer portal. I think he's like been, he's like an assistant to the coach now. So it's not just student manager. Uh, he's getting six figures in an I L. Yeah. He's getting crazy. So that's part of why people are hate on it. Which is they hate on anyone who gets money. It was the worst tournament for him to have this storyline because we didn't have a Gulk E. We didn't have a crazy upset. Everyone complained about no upsets in the first two days. And then on Saturday morning we woke up and the only storyline was a student manager. I think that's why people got very upset.
Starting point is 01:34:40 It was, it was sister Jean in a tournament with no other correct to pay attention. Yes. Sister Jean was attached to a team that in there was chaos everywhere and you know Loyola hit a buzzer beater against Miami all this stuff McNeese just beat the fuck out of Clemson and then got the fuck beaten out of him by Purdue now if they go into the Final four, I think it would have swung back like this guy is the shit Yeah, because there would have been enough time where people like to why are we hitting on this kid? Yeah this guy is the shit. Yeah. Because there would have been enough time where people were like, dude, why are we hitting on this kid? Yeah. But yeah, he had, he had the worst, worst possible tournament setting to have. Cause really he got more time on camera than
Starting point is 01:35:13 any other moment. Yeah. Do you think, and I think people were just frustrated about the tournament. They're like, fuck this kid. Was he having conversations with NC state during this run? Probably, probably good for McNeese. Ah, Purdue, by the way, Matt Painter, has he gone back to underrated? Now that he doesn't have a just behemoth in the middle. No, I'm just saying like he, so obviously the sweet 16 loss and then he lost, what was it to North Texas or something a few years ago, there was that stat where he lost like a 12 seed, a 13 seed, 14 all the way up to 16. Matt Painter has been to the Sweet 16 six out of the last eight tournaments. He's been to a final four. He's been to the national championship. He had
Starting point is 01:35:56 a team that a lot of, you know, parts that he had to fit together this year still were very, very good. They're in the Sweet 16 again. He's won five big 10 titles. I think Matt painter's now underrated. That was my say something nice about Purdue minute. I think he's an underrated coach because year in a year out, he just consistently has Purdue. Very good counterpoint. They beat high point. Yeah. And then they matter. McNeese doesn't matter. You play who you play in the tournament. Sometimes the tournament breaks your ways. Sometimes they make you play six out of 10 games in altitude against BYU. I'm going to wait and see what they do against Houston. And then I will make my judgment. They're either going to be overrated or underrated. I'm a big believer
Starting point is 01:36:37 in enjoying the success along the trip because there's only going to be one winner anyway. And getting to a sweet 16, getting that second weekend is a success. Like that's a, that's a mark, a check mark in my mind when it comes to coaching and tournaments. I think Matt painter, like the consistent coach, the consistently great coaches get to the sweet 16, like every other year or six out of eight years. So I think he's underrated and he hasn't won the big one. I get it, but it's hard to do. There's a lot of really good coaches that didn't win the big one. So yeah, my say something nice about Purdue. They, they, they will lose to Houston. I think they will. They will lose to Houston, but the, they got a good matchup too, because Clemson almost beat McNeese. I know it was close at the very, very end,
Starting point is 01:37:25 but they also started the game like, Oh, for. They scored 13 points in the first half. Yes. Bad bad start for Clemson. Yeah. I'm not willing to say he's overrated or underrated just yet. I think he's exactly properly rated properly rated until if he loses to Houston, then overrated then overrated. Yeah. Okay. Kentucky, Illinois. This was just Illinois season in nutshell. They shot 20% from three. That's it. That's it. That's a, you basically Illinois should like they should just, their season essentially is like, tell me what they're going to shoot from three. Okay. Winter loss. And that's it. And somehow like Kentucky is now like a feel good story. Mark Pope. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:05 People shit on the higher. It was not their first candidate. Mark Pope has him in the sweet 16 something Cal hadn't done since 2019. I know it's funny that Cal's also in the sweet 16, but yeah, they're good. Kobe Bray is awesome. Amari Williams gets every rebound. He's a stud and now they get to go round three against Tennessee. Unfortunately, our college basketball expert, Mark Titus said that, uh, did he say Tennessee beat them
Starting point is 01:38:31 twice? Uh, he did say that Tennessee beat Kentucky twice. Kentucky. Yeah. So now hard to beat a team three times, hard to beat a team three times. And I know that a lot of, a lot of Tennessee fans were looking at the bracket before this whole thing started and they are not, they're not excited about the prospect of playing against Kentucky. No, not at all. No, but Kentucky's fun. You're right. Mark Pope, Kentucky somehow an underdog in the conscience of America and Arkansas with Calipari also somehow an underdog. Yeah. We've got underdogs everywhere. And BYU, where Pope came from also an underdog, a lot of underdogs, a lot of, a lot of guys that you can root for at these traditional underdogs. Speaking underdogs, all the dogs got
Starting point is 01:39:16 a bounce from the tournament. Yeah. No more dogs. Yeah. Max is probably pumped about that. Drake out. Gonzaga out. Mississippi state out. Georgia Small Drake out Gonzaga every Mississippi State out Georgia out Tennessee second year on out. Oh Tennessee they have a dog. Yeah, there's a false though. But yeah, yes secondary smokey is an elite dog, too There's a lot of dogs in this tournament and they're all out pretty sad Bama Kind of a dog how in what way? Elephants are like friendly and elephants are like pretty sad. Bama. Kind of a dog. How? In what way?
Starting point is 01:39:45 Elephants are like friendly and... Elephants are dog-like? Dog-like? Minus a point for Hank. Yeah, Hank, that was bad. You're also not allowed to say I don't like dogs anymore. That's true, you have a dog. Hank doesn't like dogs!
Starting point is 01:39:54 Hank doesn't like dogs. Ha! All right, last game. UCLA, Tennessee. Just an ass-kicking. Lanier and Ziegler are so good together. Lanier's been shooting lights out from the outside. I do love watching Ziegler play.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Oh, he's so good. And I hope he's a guy that I would like to also see stick around at Tennessee for like five more years. Yeah, he's the, he's my rule of one guy. He would be perfect. Him, Marquis Noel at Kansas State. Yeah. I want to see these guys that are just like
Starting point is 01:40:23 undersized elite ballhandlers great passers They should be able to play for the school for Steven Ashworth. It's great. Yeah, John Tonje Wisconsin that would be nice the The big story though is Mick Cronin having a crash out after the game. Did you guys see this? I did not see after the game. No, okay, so in the in the press conference So Mick Cronin has been very vocal this year about time zones, travel. He's not been happy. So because, you know, UCLA having to go,
Starting point is 01:40:53 they had a bad record in Eastern standard time. Uh, he just was upset about all of it. And a reporter asked this. So this is the reporter. I'll read the transcript. The reporter says, I know it's probably way too early to start thinking about, Mick Cronin says, then don't ask. And then the reporter says, at what point do you start looking forward rather than backwards? Mick Cronin says, right now guys, it's 1240 AM and our season just ended. That's it. You're going to ask me about next year. Right now, my biggest concern is how bad the seats are on the Allegiant flight on that terrible plane that we're going to fly home tomorrow on. Then the reporter said the school bus and he said the plane version of the cheese. The reporter said, hang in
Starting point is 01:41:34 there and Mick Cronin said, and is there any chance that Doug got me some hot food because I don't eat on game day that I got something edible. Not next year. Not right now guys. Okay. So that, that last piece was actually very important. He's just hangry. He's just as grumpy because he hasn't had any, that's like Hank waking up on grit week and doesn't get a good breakfast. That's how McCrone was coaching that game. I just love a reporter saying, you know, at what point do you look forward to next year and not reminisce about this? He's like like I'm just fucking pissed off about this plane. Yeah, and I need some food It's the same thing with Dan Hillier though. Like that's how you should be after. Yes, when you're shooting ends like I like it Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I don't want to lash out
Starting point is 01:42:16 I don't want him to be like these were just such it's such a special group and you know, maybe next week We'll start looking towards the future. But right now I'm just trying to save no He's gonna get on a fucking a Legion air flight. Mm-hmm. It's pissed off. Is he really flying a legion? It must be that's tough Times are tough. Yeah Okay, any other notes Oh Kentucky, Tennessee 740 on Friday love that game is gonna be awesome that games. I'm very excited about that that I feel like that's the highest rated game Of the weekend. Yeah. All right. I had a couple other just random notes from the entire tournament. Uh, did you guys see Liberty's head coach's hair? Yes, I did. That
Starting point is 01:42:54 was awesome. It was that guy thought he was fooling everyone. I probably was a little pissed that he made it to the tournament. Yeah. Well, no, he was like, shit. No, I think he went out and he got that for the tournament. think I got it for the term is my national television hair Richie McKay. He just has spray painted The yeah, bail pattern baldness away. I think it looks great Yeah But he that he was he was you know flying under the radar and then he gets he gets into the tournament Everyone's like what is this hair dude? What are you trying to do? then he gets, he gets into the tournament. Everyone's like, what is this hair dude? What are you trying to do? Uh, there's that old commercial from the eighties where it was
Starting point is 01:43:27 for the hair spray and it would be like, look, this spray covers up all the baldness and then guys would spray their hair would magically grow. That's what it looks like in real life. Uh, the, so we talked about TJ Otzberger. We talked about Matt painter. We talked about his, oh, the guy who we should be talking about is shock of smart. So he got bounced on Friday in his last nine NCAA tournament trips shock of smart has been eliminated by a team at least three seed lines worse seven times and at least five seeds worse five times bad but he basically had the V run. He had five and one VCU and then he just lost everything since. But he also has a 26 page binder of their culture. True.
Starting point is 01:44:13 Which we got to get our hands on. Also shock a smart. He had everybody thinking that he was bald like the Liberty coach when he shaved his head, which was stolen Valor. And then he decides he's going to grow his hair out. He's able to have a full head of hair. That's bad vibes same with Buzz Williams our guy Yeah, although I bald guy. I think buzz did that just because of efficiency He's like that's one less thing that every time I wash my hair. I could be watching tape Yeah, but yeah shock is smart. That was not good. It was kind of stowed away because it was a Friday night good. It was kind of stowed away because it was a Friday night loss. But yeah, he is not, the tournament has not been kind of shock smart. Still a good coach, but not a good tournament coach right now, but he had the VCU run. And then we had the stats to back up that this has not been
Starting point is 01:44:59 the best tournament, just four games in the men's round of 64 this year finished within five points or went to OT the lowest amount in 17 years. This also was the first time in 17 years that no one, two, three or four was upset in the opening round. So there's stats to back it up. Uh, but shout out to Robert Morris and Bryant for trying. Those are the two closest Brian ended up losing by like 30. I'd forgotten about Brian because it was such a blowout by the end. Yeah. And Robert Morris, they, they, there was that one, I think they were up one with the ball and they took a three and if they had hit that three, we could have had magic. It was that what that was the closest we felt to March madness and we just couldn't fully capture it. Mm-hmm, but
Starting point is 01:45:47 Rowback question our H o B a C k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back calm I'll I'll throw it out to everyone who we got winning all now that we're at the sweet 16 re bracket Duke there's gotta be so many perfect brackets. You guys might have to cut up. There are none. I'm in a 730th out of 750 in the cell blue bracket, but no perfect brackets. Okay. Yeah, good. I think there are two maybe on ESPN. There was going into today or yesterday, but St. John's, the one I saw St. John's blew that. Shout out to guy who I saw at the Drafking Sportsbook in the bathroom. Who's the one I saw st. John's blew that shut out the guy who I saw at the Drafking Sportsbook
Starting point is 01:46:27 in the bathroom who's like Big cat how many perfect brackets you think are left? This was on Thursday like maybe at 9 p.m. I was like, I don't know dude, he's like 10 million I was like, okay. He's like what if I told you I had one of them. It's like I'm not impressed Was like okay. He's like what if I told you I had one of them. It's like I'm not impressed Yeah, that's not impressive. It's Thursday and there's been no upsets to me when I look at him every brackets perfect. Yeah, I Don't know. I think it's just gonna be Duke Duke I think to see
Starting point is 01:47:04 Duke Michigan State. Duke. That would be a fun matchup. If it's Duke, Michigan State, they should let Coach K coach that. Just yeah, throwback. He'll be there, right? Oh, for sure. Who you got winning it all? I picked Tennessee before, so I'll stick with Tennessee. Okay, I respect that I
Starting point is 01:47:28 Feel like that's the team. You know the best shot that no one's talking about I'd agree with that's why that's why I picked them Well, they'd have to get through Kentucky possibly Houston and then possibly Duke. Yeah, no, it's tough Tough draw, but gotta be good good teams to win the tournament. Gotta beat good teams to win the tournament. That's a fact. Alright, any other thoughts from the tournament? We'll do who's back if not. It's been fun.
Starting point is 01:47:56 I just don't want to wake up tomorrow morning. It's gonna suck not having basketball. It's been a great four days. It's been a very fun four days. Very fun four days. I know it's not been the best tournament's been a great four days. It's been a morning. It's been a very fun four days very fun four days I know it's not been the best tournament, but I still love it because someday You're gonna be dead and there'll be no tournament Think about that. Mm-hmm. How much will that suck pretty bad?
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Starting point is 01:48:45 but still tastes amazing. Official hard seltzer. A part of my take. Thank you to truly unruly. We're going to get unruly this summer. It's about to get warm. Truly unruly. Oh yeah, that was crazy that it snowed on Thursday. But I didn't, if there was one day where it could snow and it wouldn't bother me is the first day of the NCAA tournament. I preferred it actually. Yeah. Yeah. Get all the shit out. We don't feel bad staying in Siyahwa and snowing. Yeah. Okay. Hank, who's back this week? I have a few. One of them is literally right up PFT's alley, so I'll save it for him. And if he
Starting point is 01:49:16 doesn't say it, we can come back to him. I appreciate that, Hank. I think I know what it is. So my other one is Wyatt Hendrickson. Mm-hmm. Oklahoma State wrestler. Yes. This was probably the most madness I felt until Sunday night. This was Saturday night. NCAA wrestling. He was down a point to, what's his name, Gable Stevenson? Yeah, that's the real who's back is Gable Stevenson.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Olympian, WWE wrestler, never lost in college. Tried out for the NFL, somehow left college, signed with WWE, won the Olympics, came back. Yeah, if you have two jobs after you leave college, I don't know how you go back. One, okay, I'll look past that, but he tried out for the NFL and he signed with WWE. And then I saw it on TV and I was like, are they replaying two years ago as wrestling tournament? So he was winning with, with what was it a minute and a half left and then Wyatt Hendrickson
Starting point is 01:50:14 put him on his back, got two points, don't know how wrestling works, wrestling scoring works. But one of the coolest scenes to watch live, we were watching live in the cave and it was just an electric moment, all time upset. Again, I don't, wrestling people will tell you it's like the biggest upset of all time. KB said that it was one of the most shocking wrestling moments. I also cannot wait to see KB. KB went to this. To talk about this.
Starting point is 01:50:39 And he left early. He goes to the NCAA wrestling national championships. Gabe Stevenson is wrestling. It's an iconic moment. Maybe the best collegiate wrestler of all time. And then he leaves. And in his Uber ride home, he finds out that he got upset at the last second.
Starting point is 01:50:58 That's as bad as it gets. Yeah. KB is a bad sports town. It was bad. I texted him being like, how crazy is this? He's like, I'm in an Uber. I want to sports town. It was bad. I texted him being like how crazy is this? He's like I'm in an uber. I want to kill myself. Oh, yeah, not good brutal not good But I want to talk to him about it, too. Yeah. Yeah, so how'd this happen? It was crazy. It was very cool Alright, what other who's back?
Starting point is 01:51:22 My other one is love we kind of talked about at the top of the show I don't know if you're gonna use that one tiger. Yeah, we can't talk about it All right, what other who's back? My other one is love. We kind of talked about at the top of the show. I don't know if you're going to use that one. Tiger? Yeah. We can't talk about it. He asked us to respect his privacy in his Twitter post. And Instagram.
Starting point is 01:51:34 And Instagram. Yeah, you got to go multi-platform. Sorry, tell us to read his caption. You have to tell us many people as possible to keep this quiet. Love is in the air and life is better with you by my side. This is a picture of him and Don jr's ex-wife yes who still has the last name Trump for some reason yeah, what's up with that? Couldn't tell you
Starting point is 01:51:54 It's that might have been like a name for life type deal Oh, if you if you have kids, I believe she does have kids like if you're if you're a woman and you're getting divorced I Think it might be the first thing that's got to go is the last name. Yeah, but This is if there were a hyphen in there this no, I don't even think you throw a hype I think you should got a ditch it I agree But like if you're gonna if you're if you're gonna say it's for the kids be like, I'm you know, Smith Trump Yeah, Woods Trump would be a powerful name though. Yeah. Now if anyway, I'll finish
Starting point is 01:52:25 it sorry. We look forward to our journey through life together at this time we would appreciate privacy for all those close to our hearts. So we're not going to talk about it. So publicly post Tiger Woods is dating someone related to the trumps. No, but we're not. Well, I mean related in the fact that she she birthed tr's. Oh, true. Yeah. Uh, but we're not going to talk about it. We're not because he asked us not to. Tiger Woods and Trump. Yes. Don't talk about it.
Starting point is 01:52:51 But there we don't know that they're dating. It just said that they're in love. Oh, they could be not dating. Maybe they just met. Well, they're in love. Love is in the air. Now, this could be good for tiger. Because if she's got Trump grandchildren, anytime tiger is with those kids, he gets somebody to drive them around. Right? True. Like a professional driver. So tiger doesn't have to worry about
Starting point is 01:53:15 Yeah, running a foul of the law. Yeah, that's good point. Very good point. How do you think Charlie feels about this? Now? I hope Charlie, if you want to talk, your uncles are here. Not a creepy way. We're here for you bro. Whatever. Just rap about anything. I think he's happy his dad's happy. Yeah. And he found love. Yeah. And you know what? Charlie's probably not even talking about either. He's probably respecting their privacy. He's focused on grinding out on the golf course. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Very weird. very weird to ask for privacy like for a second. I thought someone died or something Well, that's been rumored and like I think it's been probably, you know talked about tabloids gossip sites
Starting point is 01:53:54 so they probably were thinking let's address it but then Keep it private, but that it's just not how it works. Once it once you post about it. Mm-hmm Wait there one of one of the kids is, uh, Kai Trump. Isn't she, she's like a good golfer. Yeah. Wow. And Tiger Woods could be her stepdad. That's pretty, he's that who stepped up. Yeah. Charlie and Kai got to play a one V one. So, uh, yeah, we're not going to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:54:25 No, we haven't talked about it. And we won't. We'll continue to respect his wishes for privacy. But the two pictures that he put accompanying the post, the first one was pretty normal, I would say. They're just like standing next to each other. They look happy. I'm happy.
Starting point is 01:54:38 And then the second one was in a hammock. And it looked like that picture of Willie Mays that Barry Bonds took. Remember where everyone was like, Oh shit, is this Willie Mays funeral? Is he dead? Yeah. That's what that looked like for tiger. It looked like he was dead in a hammock laying next to her. And then you're like, who took that picture? Yeah, that was weird. Maybe Charlie, maybe Charlie or Kai. Okay. They go to the same school. Oh yeah. Oh, so they met in the pickup line. They must have that's exactly what happened They both yeah, they both go Charlie Woods and Kai Trump both go to the Benjamin school. Are they the same age?
Starting point is 01:55:12 Look up. Where's the Benjamin school in? Florida how bad did they get beat by Cooper flag in Mount Verde probably got smoked? Y'all they probably gonna be fucking killed by him What if what if Charlie and the Trump granddaughter what if love was in the air with them? Are they the same age? I? Think they're both underage But what if they you can date somebody yeah, of course What are you trying to say I'm just saying that'd be wild that would be be wild. That'd be very wild. Yeah, she's 17. He's 16 That would be very wild But yeah, we're gonna respect the privacy
Starting point is 01:55:51 By the way, I have a hammock take they suck most overrated thing in the world. That's no Getting out of getting out of hammock sucks. It's a big guy thing. I know I hate them too. Yeah I back so I knew you'd back me up Me and Hank are just there's just Yeah, you're taking naps in oh I'm taking a nap I'm taking so every nap you ever sip the nice tea in a hammock Especially if you have your if you have your shirt off then like oh Yeah, they're so over it like hammocks are are put on a pedestal is like the the king of relaxation No, thanks. We're a day bed point Hank
Starting point is 01:56:30 Again, I know it's a bit. I know it's a big guy take hammocks. I don't trust them What do you want me to say? I get in a hammock and I it's a problem day beds are it's like a we're gonna put A bed in this room and it's gonna be smaller and you're not gonna I'm not gonna be as comfortable as a real bad air mattress on the exact know you fucking idiots talking about the ones outside like real furniture outside is awesome that's better than a hammock and hammocks are different way better way better way better bad take you just have never been on nice furniture outside I've been on nice furniture outside hammocks are getting out of the hammock that's
Starting point is 01:57:04 so great getting in there's outdoor furniture you idiot yeah but it's cheap because it's outside no it's not I said nice you have not confirmed you've not been on nice furniture outside cuz not cuz nice furniture should not be outside but there is nice nice outdoor furniture it's better than hammocks no no it's not yes getting getting into the hammock is tough sometimes getting out of the hammock sucks Do you want like a sleep number fucking mattress on the porch? Yeah, I just need grab her Yeah, what I was at it did happens when it rains then then trying to fucking get myself into some little
Starting point is 01:57:36 Cocoon of rope. Yeah, I would like a I would like a bed. Have you have you slept on a king max? I own that outdoor couch. Yeah, it's comfortable. I own that, I also own a hammock. And I'm on the hammock to nap, not on that couch. Which one do you go on more? The hammock. I sit on the couch, if I'm watching TV,
Starting point is 01:57:57 I go on the hammock. I'm gonna lay down. We're just going on the hammock. Yeah, you wanna have a hammock day? I got two of them. Oh, fuck yeah. Dueling hammocks. Do it.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Max and I will be sitting like, God intended on furniture. Yeah, you want to have a hammock day? I got two of them. Oh fuck you dueling hammock do it Max and I will be sitting like god intended on for yeah. Why yeah, I was a Real that was a big mess that by by hey or by max though bringing up the couch I own about this counter example. That's a nice. How about this one? Yeah, I don't own that one That that that's awful. Yeah, what happens when it rains? It's out That's awful. Yeah, what happens when it rains? It's outdoor furniture. Again, you don't understand outdoor furniture. You moron. That looks like an whatever. You don't. You just say you don't like listen. Well, I knew that when I did the hammock take, it was going to probably be me and Max versus the world because big guys can't trust hammocks. But what we found out with the hammock take is you don't know what outdoor furniture is. You're going to
Starting point is 01:58:43 submit that a lot of money on admit that sure You should not put it outside. It's my take No, that's so I understand super rich people like you just spend a lot of money on everything you write It doesn't make sense to put it outside. What are you talking? There's outdoor furniture But not like you shouldn't you shouldn't break the bank on outdoor. You don't want to sit outside I do but it doesn't need to be like anything is a crazy Listen, this is crazy crazy crazy. Here's what is crazy Here's what you guys aren't thinking about with the outdoor furniture
Starting point is 01:59:10 You have to pick all those pillows up and take them inside and and storm and like a waterproof thing if it's bad weather I hammock you just leave the hammock out there Okay, I still would rather sit on the the really comfortable outdoor fresh it Yes does not lay down Hank does not know what our point is the maintenance is not worth the what the comfort Maintenance there's a lot of maintenance pillows. No, I gotta put them I gotta stack them sometimes the maintenance is really where where they get you Hank. I Don't want you ever sitting on outdoor furniture ever
Starting point is 01:59:42 Yeah, I mean, ever. See, Hank, he's moving the gold. I won't. No, I won't sit on a hammock again in my life. He's talking about sitting. We're talking about laying down. I won't lay down on a hammock again in my life. I don't want you touching outdoor furniture. I will touch outdoor furniture.
Starting point is 01:59:57 You don't respect it. You think it's stupid. No, I love... What do you mean? That's such bullshit. You just said it was stupid. No, I think it's stupid to spend a lot of money on it What okay you spend money on dumb shit all the time obviously? Not outdoor furniture you just got you also
Starting point is 02:00:18 And I'm gonna laugh in your face when you do it cuz you absolutely will he's got some garbage outdoor furniture Yeah, and when he does yeah yeah and when you do spend- Because it's fucking outdoors. Yeah you will but you will be forced to do it and I'm gonna laugh at you. What did it, like if you like to sit outside, wouldn't you want it to be nice? And comfortable? If you had the choice of nice outdoor furniture or not nice outdoor furniture, you would prefer to sit on nice outdoor furniture.
Starting point is 02:00:45 You guys are twisting the argument. Whatever. No, we're not. We've separated the original argument. Hank is correct. Hammocks are a great place to lay down. Again, I'll concede that's a big guy take that I knew that when I said it, it was going to be me and Max versus the world. Hank then revealed himself to just hate outdoor furniture. You did. I did not. So what's the point of buying outdoor furniture? What's the point of not buying nice outdoor furniture? Ding. Because it's nice to be able to sit on nice shit. Okay. And it's, it's meant to
Starting point is 02:01:17 be outdoors. I think you think that outdoor furniture is you just buy a couch that's like an indoor couch and put it outside and then it rains once you're like, I've done that. No, this is insane. Now what is your point with the truly elite thing to do is to just on a nice day, take your indoor television and then pick it up and walk it outside and put it down and be like, I'm going to watch sports outside today. Yeah, I like that. Look at this thing. I mean, that's incredible. You kidding me? You'd rather just all hammock in this thing Yeah, you've also definitely been on vacation and been on like super nice outdoor furniture and had a great time probably
Starting point is 02:01:53 or a beach I Don't I feel like I'm like outdoor furniture is just like it's a cabana in a beach like There's nice furniture, but that's like on a vacation at a nice place Most people if they're gonna have something outside a hammock is way more accessible than that thing probably costs like 30 I think there's a lot of the like nice No, that one's not that expensive That one's stupid all right, uh, you're very loose backs That one's stupid. All right, uh, you ever hear of whose backs?
Starting point is 02:02:50 No, okay. Do the one that you thought I was gonna do. Yeah, that was the one. What is it? Deli. Deli. Yeah. Yeah. So he played in the NBL. He was named the finals MVP, which is great. Good for Deli. Despite the fact that his his team, Melbourne United, lost the game and the title to the Illawarra Hawks. So deli at the podium He got the trophy for MVP, which by the way is a very funny thing to do to give the MVP to somebody on the losing Team. Yeah, like never happens anymore, but He said that the guard for the Hawks will Dave Oh Hickey was more deserving of the award So deli walked off the stage with the MVP trophy and gave it to Hickey. That's awesome. That's so deli. That's so I love that Yeah, double. I also love the fact that deli is still playing at a high enough level to be the the finals MVP Yeah, Melvin. Yeah, pretty damn cool. You take it. I dive. Oh, is that the that's not the New Zealand? breakers same We didn't make it No, I don't know
Starting point is 02:03:30 Clearly not didn't make the championship. We're a football basketball team. Hmm. We had that one. We had that one traffic. That was horrible No, no Oh, yeah, no no no Archie Hampton yeah, J. Hampton is he still in the league. Yeah, I think so maybe he might be Yeah, that was supposed to be big time I'm either who's better 1.2 points game. Oh for who? the heat last year last year
Starting point is 02:04:01 Last year. Last year. Oh, he might be on the Wizards now. No way. It looked like he had the G League. The G League Wizards. The Go-Go's. Yeah, yeah. Wizards.
Starting point is 02:04:14 Yeah. All right. You all said what? My other Who's Back of the Week is Jim Morrison. Maybe. Oh. He might be alive. Oh shit.
Starting point is 02:04:23 So apparently there's a documentary, I think it's on Apple TV or yeah, Apple TV. Uh, that's claims that he's still alive. It was done by a super fan of the doors and of Jim Morrison. He says that he did not die in Paris in 1971. They said that he faked his own death and there was never an autopsy done to determine the cause. And then he says, I think he lives somewhere in the Midwest right now. And this dude is like trying to track him down and this guy.
Starting point is 02:04:50 So Jim Morrison, the liver King might still be alive, which would be, that would be the ultimate who's back. Faking deaths. I've always wondered how many people fake their deaths and get away with it. It's gotta be more, more than you think. Right? There was that one dude a few months ago, I think it was from Wisconsin who faked his death and then just moved to like Lithuania and got a new wife and then and then they they like zoomed him he's like yeah I'm
Starting point is 02:05:13 here Steve Jobs that McAfee guy Epstein yeah I was named DB Cooper Tupac good, well, he didn't really fake his own death. They just never found him. Yeah All right, my who's back is The national anthem did you guys see this the bongo national anthem? very funny the there was in the I think it was ducks first predators and The ducks started slow and they asked that afterwards What happened in the game and the ducks player was like, yeah, the national anthem kind of fucked us up.
Starting point is 02:05:50 But then we found our footing and I was like, there's no way. And then I watched the clip. Max, I DMed it to you. It was a hell of a national anthem. They played on the bongos? Kind of. I've been saying for years that they need to do national anthem on the drums. Watch this. Kind of. I thought it was going to be just bongos. And I totally make sense.
Starting point is 02:06:15 Once we recovered from that, we were back to our game, which was good. of the congas. I know he's awesome. He's a beast. I think this might be the future the national anthem. This is pretty good. Yeah, um Max there was a time. I think it was Chad Smith from the chili peppers I think he played the national anthems the national anthem on the drums before Lakers game. Oh, yeah It's why look that up. He did. Hot chili pepper. Here we go. Yeah, here it is. Oh, that kind of rocks. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:16 You can also kind of squint a little bit and think that it's Will Ferrell. Yeah, I'm into that Memes on Wednesday, can you explain to us Ashton Hall? Oh? I could sure he's the best okay We'll maybe do a explain that memes on on Wednesday Because I would I would like to know also Body armor Friday you guys want to talk severance. Yeah. I think that should be a recurring thing. Yeah. Yeah. Even when there's no season. Yeah. We just talk about it. But yeah, I think every Friday for the next three years. So go catch up on severance.
Starting point is 02:07:55 And, uh, yeah, we'll do our finale recap. Uh, okay. Good show boys. We made it. March madness. Uh, numbers three 16 one six 40 and poke 44 15 21 What if today is the day? It's not going to be today. It feels like it. 76.
Starting point is 02:08:33 Oh, you didn't get it. Tried. Love you guys. I'm gonna be a good boy So So So So Thanks for watching!

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