Pardon My Take - NCAA Tournament W/ Mark Titus, Ryan FitzPatrick To WFT And The Bears Sign Andy Dalton

Episode Date: March 17, 2021

We start the show in a world where Big Cat doesn’t know Andy Dalton is about to be the Bears QB and PFT celebrates Ryan Fitzpatrick’s signing in Washington (4:04 - 23:33). Breaking Moos brings us ...the Dalton move and instant reaction (23:33 - 30:34). Hot seat/cool throne and Billy’s long awaited QB bracket (30:34 - 48:09). Mark Titus joins the show to break down the Bracket, Brad Stevens to Indiana, sleepers, how good Gonzaga is and Big Ten excuses just in case (48:09 - 105:51). We finish with FAQ’s.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Mark Titus. Great talk with Mark Titus. Awesome to break down the bracket. We talk about every team, pretty much every team.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Sleepers, who's gonna win? Probably Gonzaga. We break it all down. Always fun to have him on. We are gonna do NFL Free Agency, a little programming note. You are gonna listen to this show, and for the first 20 minutes or so, 15 minutes,
Starting point is 00:00:36 I was living in a world where Andy Dalton was in the Bears quarterback, and then the news broke. So, you will find that out. Probably 25, you'll probably say to yourself, what are they talking about? Andy Dalton's the Bears quarterback? Well, guess what? You get to hear the moment.
Starting point is 00:00:49 It happened literally live on air. So that's fun. We have FAQs, great set of FAQs, and Hot Seat Cool Throne, awesome Wednesday show coming up in a second. Brought to you by our friends at Manscaped. NFL Draft Season is also upon us. This is the best time of the year
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Starting point is 00:04:35 Oh, it's St. Patrick's Day. Happy Fitzpatrick's Day. Oh! So all those who celebrate. Oh, there it is. That was, it was the best night of my life last night. And don't get me wrong. I'm under no illusion that Ryan Fitzpatrick's gonna come in
Starting point is 00:04:47 and like immediately turn the football team into Super Bowl contenders, cause we already are Super Bowl contenders. But he is the most fun quarterback that I could have hoped for. Besides Winston, I wanted James. I did too. But verbal meme, we have James at home,
Starting point is 00:05:01 James at home, Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's the next best thing. He makes every week fun. No matter what happens, he's gonna have some games where he throws for five touchdowns. He's gonna have some games where he throws for five interceptions. He's gonna run over to the smallest defense
Starting point is 00:05:13 back on the field and most of all, I'm just excited that like I get to actually root for him as a guy that has a vested interest and not just the Fitz magic, but he's on my team now. Now I'm like, now I am, I feel like I have Fitz magic inside me. Okay, so with all that said, do you feel a little bad that I'm just sitting here
Starting point is 00:05:31 and I'm now looking at Andy Dalton? Yeah, you get the red rifle. Did you see that there was a report that the best options for the Bears are to convince Andrew Luck to come out of retirement or get Sam Darnold. You got a quarterback that, yeah, here's the only thing I'm worried about
Starting point is 00:05:49 with Washington football team getting Ryan Fitzpatrick. I think like happens wherever Ryan Fitzpatrick goes, they will now immediately be like, well, we gotta draft the quarterback just so that we can put him in front of Ryan Fitzpatrick because that is Ryan Fitzpatrick's entire career is he goes to a team and they're like, well, we need someone who's ahead of him on the depth chart
Starting point is 00:06:10 because you agree Fitzpatrick, if he's the day one starter, he's not gonna have the same magic. Right, absolutely. You need him to be looking over your shoulder or coming off the bench. That's where we got a primer. We got Taylor Heinecke who I think
Starting point is 00:06:22 is the ultimate Fitzpatrick primer because he'll get in, he's got a spark, but he's probably gonna fuck things up. And so he's actually the perfect quarterback to team up with Fitzpatrick to have somebody that we give a shot, a young guy, see what the little guys got. He goes out there, plays well for like a game,
Starting point is 00:06:36 maybe game and a half, then he starts screwing up, boom, Fitzmagic time to come out. Now, how many, off the top of your head, how many playoff games do you think Ryan Fitzpatrick has played in? Zero. Yeah, zero. Yeah, he hasn't made a playoff.
Starting point is 00:06:49 He's the best story. Best quarterback of all time, didn't ever make the playoffs, maybe. Archie Manning, I think, never made the playoffs. I think that's true. Brandon Marshall never made the playoffs. Yes, that's also true. That's also true.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But I'm excited because it's like, the best analogy I can make is, you know that second semester of senior year in high school, when everything's kind of set, you don't really care, but you have fun, and you're like, fuck it. That's what this entire season's gonna be for me.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Because if we go anywhere, hey, that's awesome, cool. If not, I get to just sit on my couch and drink beers and forget that I'm supposed to be doing work the whole time. I'm very pumped about Fitzmagic. Oh, breaking moves. Oh no, this is gonna be Andy Dalton. It's Andy Dalton. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's not bad for you. I've actually been not going on Twitter. Yeah, I've got Shepter. I'm scared to go on Twitter, because I know he's gonna do the Andy Dalton. Shepter notifications set up here. One of my favorite players of all time, good friend, personal, you know, guy root for always,
Starting point is 00:07:43 LeBron James has just announced that he's gonna become part owner of the Red Sox. What? Both he and Maverick Carter each joined Fendi Sports Group as partners, first and only black partners in FSG history. I love it. Hank, Hank, you are now a LeBron Stan.
Starting point is 00:07:59 We finally have our LeBron Stan on our podcast. I mean, you have to. Yes, you have to be. Yeah, I do. I think. You love the guy. You've always loved him. You are bright.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah. You are LeBron through and through. Yeah, Space Jam 2 is gonna be great. $750 million investment. That's not, that's not Trump change. No, it's not. That is not ashtray money. It's not the, do you say ashtray?
Starting point is 00:08:23 Ashtray money. It's not the Jay-Z net investment that he made. It's not me and Swans. Yes. No. So he's like, he's like a vocal minority owner of the team. Right. You can't see.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Oh, oh, word, governor. He's a vocal minority governor of the team. You don't know that you can't see the old word, but can't remember. You call him a minority. I didn't say that. So yeah, let's go, you know, go, Barani, go. Hopefully, hopefully this means he wants Barani to come play for the Celtics and he can, you know, do everything here.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Just become a Boston guy. I don't know. I don't know. It's crazy. That's wild. You're going to have to take some time to figure out exactly how to spend this. Credit to LeBron, though, he now has the Indians, the Yankees and the Red Sox. He should, and statistically speaking, have a good, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And have a good chance of no Liverpool. Have a good chance of getting to the World Series and the Dodgers, I assume. Yeah, he's probably adopted that. Yeah, he was rooting for the Dodgers last year. Yeah, so he's got, I mean, yeah, there's like a 15% chance that LeBron James will, one of his teams he roots for will win the World Series. So Hank, you are, you are fully on team LeBron. You can't root against him.
Starting point is 00:09:25 You absolutely cannot. Yeah, he's your owner. He owns you, literally. Power move by him. I got it. I got to commend him. He literally, that is awesome. The town that he like has the most beef with.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He just went and bought one of them. I wouldn't say that LeBron's biggest beef is with Boston. I'd say that Boston had a huge deal with LeBron. He literally started the super team to beat the Celtics. I think that the beef is more on your side than it is on LeBron's side. But if you had to ask LeBron, like what city that he has most people, it would probably be that because it was when he was young in his career, he could not beat the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It was like he's trying to get like go over that hump when his first championship, who's in his way, the Celtics. So it's like, you know, like the only other ones that could be up there, like San Antonio, Abrax. Yeah, like, I don't know. Golden State, Oakland. Yeah, but he didn't really. Yeah, but he'd go in the state.
Starting point is 00:10:12 But yeah, he also beat them the last time. Well, no, they played again. Yeah, I don't know. Also, could you have, I feel like everyone's just happy in the West Coast. I also got to think that the Boston fans were really, for some reason, some Boston fans haven't been the nicest to LeBron over the years. So that's probably not you. So that's not definitely me.
Starting point is 00:10:29 So Bill Simmons is going to have to review all of his chance. Are you just are you just leaving me? So am I now outnumbered? Is it LeBron standing? Well, you've you've you've flirted with me. I tried to be a LeBron. And you're not. It's just too hard.
Starting point is 00:10:42 OK, so he makes it very difficult. So we still have a majority on the show. I still I respect LeBron's greatness. You're like in the Supreme Court when there's one judge that can go either way. Yeah, I'm at you. So it's me versus Hank. I mean, you can go. I'm the Joe Manchin of this podcast. I'm a LeBron LeBron.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I'm a LeBronche, a prenuer fan. I feel like I've lost a friend. Like this is. No, this is great. This is. No, this is. I feel like I've lost a friend. I've been neutered. Yes. You keep. This is I've been neutered. I would say hating LeBron is probably seven percent of your personality. Yeah, I enjoy rooting against LeBron sometimes more than rooting for my own teams.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Now it's been so hanging. And now I can't do that. Now it's the same thing. What are you able to do now, though, is like you have a tremendous scapegoat in case things go very wrong. Yes, so the team LeBron. Yeah, like if LeBron had well, the Red Sox ownership already sucks. Yeah, if he had been an old word last year, like with the whole Mookie Bet
Starting point is 00:11:35 situation went down, you would have a hundred percent blamed him no matter what the facts were. So like that's kind of useful to have somebody to point out. Be like, that guy's the problem. Wild times. This is wild times. All right. Well, that's great breaking news. I hope he buys every team that Hank likes. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Faze clan. Duke. Duke. Oh, it brought his in. Faze clan. Oh, yeah, that's true. Stop, Hank. All right. So to go back to NFL Free Agency, so your analogy of, you know, the end of high school, second semester, senioritis. Senioritis.
Starting point is 00:12:08 So I'll go on an analogy for what the Bears are doing in Free Agency. The Bears are the guy who goes out to a bar and tries to hook up with girls and then instead just gets a big pizza and sits on his couch and be like, I could have fucking hit that. Like, you see that chick? She was giving me the eyes. I probably could have smashed, but I just wanted to have a boy's night and eat some pizza.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Every quarterback that signs, the Bears are like, well, we talked to him. We talked to James Winston. We talked to Ben Rothesberger. No, you didn't. You had no chance. You're fucking sitting with your fat ass on the couch eating pizza at 3 a.m. watching like ETV and you're going to fall asleep and feel like a schmuck in an asshole.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And that's you, Ryan Pace, Matt Nagy. All right, Coward. So I think I think you could also put into there like the Russell Wilson thing. It's just a victory for them to be mentioned. Like your buddies are like, yeah, you could have that chick. And you're like, yeah, I know I could. And then you go home and you jack off to porn, which is Andrew Luck. Correct.
Starting point is 00:13:03 It's just like out there just watching film. Yeah. The fantasy of what you could have. It's disgusting. It's going to be it. He don't know I still could get Russell Wilson. Your problem. Can I can I give you some advice?
Starting point is 00:13:12 No, let me give you some advice. I'm going to threaten Shetha. I'm going to I know that's what I'm saying. I'm going to fucking kill you, dude, unless you do the Russell. I'm saying I think you're going about that wrong. I think instead of saying, do the Russell Wilson tweet, you have to say, announce Russell Wilson to the Bears because that presumes it's already done.
Starting point is 00:13:30 So you might be able to trick him. No, I just want to say just announce it. That's what I'm saying. It's a tweet. Do the tweet. Announce it. That's what the kids are saying. You got to announce it. I will.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I don't want to say that I'll kill Adam Shetha if he doesn't do the tweet. Good. Good. I'm glad that you don't want to say that. I did not say it. If you wanted to say fucking tweet, Shefti fucking P boy, I actually feel bad. I wouldn't kill Shefti. I actually love them. I feel bad for for other NFC East teams
Starting point is 00:13:55 to have to now root against Ryan Fitzpatrick. If it was on the other foot and let's say the Philadelphia Eagles son, Ryan Fitzpatrick, who would actually probably be the perfect fit in that situation with Jalen Hertz to just kind of like switch them in and out going back and forth from your tongue to your clit. I would hate rooting against the guy. It'd be tough for me as a football team, football fan. To do that.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So my condolences as a Washington football team fan. I thought you rooted for the entire NFC East. I do. I root for the beast. Yeah, but I'm just saying like I would not want to root in a head to head matchup. I would not want to root against Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hank Patriots, Belichick spending spree. Very atypical. People are trying to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Do you want me to just drop this one on the time? Timeline is pretty good. Boston Tea Party, but just T.E. Oh, oh, T.E. Oh, God, because they signed Janu Smith and Hunter Henry. The so this is genius on a macro level by Belichick simply because he has earned the right that no matter what he does, people will be like, well, that's genius.
Starting point is 00:15:01 So he he knows that he can just sign a bunch of people and everyone will be like, wow, what is Belichick seeing that no one else sees? Yeah, some people just can just say classic Belichick to everything the Patriots do when they sound smart. Right. And it could be smart because I do think there is an element of what the Patriots are doing, where the cap went down. Not a lot of teams have cap space. You got ability to take advantage of the market.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I totally see that part. It also could be Belichick's like, we sucked last year and Tom Brady won a Super Bowl and I don't want that to happen again. So I'm going to sign a bunch of dudes. Right. And like people say, it sucks to play here. It's not fun. We don't pay people. Boom. Pay everyone. I something changed this offseason, Belichick, and it might be a long
Starting point is 00:15:37 like not the exact same thing, but kind of how Nick Saban, his best friend, switched up how he did things after he saw that he was going to get passed by some people, Belichick saw that what was happening by not having Tom Brady and by not spending money wasn't working. So he's going like full in the other direction. He's going, I'm going to spend more than anybody else. I'm going to change things up entirely or maybe just watch like he got into a weird YouTube rabbit hole this offseason and thinks that like money
Starting point is 00:16:03 isn't real anymore. Well, isn't there something where it's like there's going to be a new TV deal and once that gets signed, the caps will go way up. So comparatively speaking, there's going to be crazier deals in the next two seasons. So these deals that look like a lot now are going to seem not that big after a couple of years past. And the fact that most teams can't spend, most teams don't have money to spend right now, they do.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So he knows that there's like a deflated market so you can get someone for cheaper than they would be in a regular year where everyone has money. It will also be great if you can turn Nelson Aguilar into a great wide receiver just because Philly fans will just be like so miserable about it. So do you think Edelman wants to stick around now? Or do you think he, if you were to inject truth serum into Julian Edelman, be like, where do you want to play next year? New England or Tampa Bay?
Starting point is 00:16:49 I mean, obviously, Tampa Bay. That's a question. And they resign. Gronk too. Yeah, they were trying to resign everybody. The, I think, Shaq Barrett. So yeah, they are going to bring everyone back. Playoff Lenny, there are rumors about him coming to New England.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Playoff Lenny. I saw Seahawks as well in the mix for Playoff Lenny. The Raiders make no sense. They have now, like, dismantled their entire offensive line, which is exactly what Derek Carr needs. Yeah, this is, again, the perfect analogy for Derek Carr is what's his name? Littlefinger from Game of Thrones. Is it Littlefinger?
Starting point is 00:17:21 Is it? Sick Game of Thrones. No, who's the guy that got his dick cut off? Reek. Reek. Yeah, so he's Reek. So now John Gruden, Theon Grigio. Yeah, so now now John Gruden is entering the phase of his career where he's like,
Starting point is 00:17:32 I'm just going to punish him because for some reason John Gruden hates Derek Carr. He's like, I'm not going to give you any protection whatsoever and just get you killed for a little bit. I think the hook is going to be pretty quick for Marriota to get in next year. I think Gruden should be, the hook should be quick for him, but it won't be. No, I mean, he sells like 70 million dollars left. What are the Raiders going to do next year? They'll probably go like four and one and then finish the season six and six and ten.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, like they always do at this point with Gruden. Other news, Jameson, New Orleans, which is huge. I just hope he gets full starting duty and it's not like a back and forth with Taysum Hill. I assume he will be the starter, but it's going to be like an open competition in the camp. But I think based on what we've seen, James Winston is probably a better quarterback than Taysum Hill.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm so excited. I still like watching Taysum Hill just run downhill into a linebacker. Yes, that's always fun to do. But James, James should get that starting job. I wish that his, his contract had been like infinity dollars for 50 years. And one year guarantee. All year is voidable. Yeah, all year is voidable.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But yeah, he's I'm excited for for James to potentially get a fair shot in New Orleans. And then Joe Thuny went to the Chiefs. So that's big for Patrick from my homes. Everyone was making a big deal about obviously had to cut their fantastic tackles, but those guys were also injured. And I think everyone expected that. But that that will be like if the Chiefs can figure out a way to fix their
Starting point is 00:18:57 offensive line, we'll just snap our fingers and be like, Oh, yeah. Remember, the Chiefs are unstoppable. Dan Orlovsky already said they're going to go undefeated next year. Yeah. So Dan, Dan knows 17 and oh, if he's dyslexic. Yeah, he'll get that. And this is a great quote. So we are amateur capologists.
Starting point is 00:19:14 We're trying to get better at studying the cap on the show. But the Ravens, no, we're not the Ravens general manager, Eric Dacosta, had a very good description, I think that we might be able to learn from. He said, at some point, if you're hungry and you have an ice cream cake, you might eat a big piece, which leaves less ice cream cake for everyone else. So that makes sense to me, right? Yeah. But then what about when, when you want to cut, when you want more ice cream cake,
Starting point is 00:19:42 you can stick your finger down someone's throat and have them throw up some of the ice cream cake and then send them on their way. And then people can eat that. Yeah, you can do that. You can get somebody else's barf. Right. And then import. That's what the Bears are doing at the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It has, I think we understand, like Eric Dacosta, I think we understand how pie works, how ice cream pie. Yeah, right. But I think the part that everyone struggles with, actually, you know what? I saw the perfect tweet. Someone, someone said, I can't remember who said it, but the way to look at every single contract in the NFL is it's a two year deal. Every contract is a two year deal, no matter how many, how many dollars
Starting point is 00:20:19 they throw out there, how many years they throw out there, everyone just signed the two year deal and then they can cut it. Except for coaches. Yeah, but that's, that's how you, if you look at every contract like that, it all kind of makes sense. It's a two year deal. And then everything else after that, like they can either eat some cap and get rid of you and get rid of you with no repercussions.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Everything is a two year deal. Just go with that. And it makes everything a lot easier to understand. Just a little pro tip. If you are looking to explain anything to us, just say it's like an ice cream cake at the very least, we'll pretend that it makes sense. Oh yeah. Now I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yeah, I have totally make sense. Yeah, absolutely. I've definitely had an ice cream cake before. All right, let's do hot seat, cool throne. Then we will have our good friend, Mark Titus on the show. By the way, we also, on Friday, we're going to have Stanford Steve with some gambling picks. So you got to make sure that you listen for that.
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Starting point is 00:22:38 That's simply safe.com slash PMT breaking, breaking, breaking. Oh, I'm so recording breaking news. Former Cowboys quarterback Andy Dalton is signing one year, $10 million deal with a chance to earn another three million incentives with the Chicago Bears per sources. $10 million one year, Andy Dalton to the Bears. Big Cat, your instant reaction. Wait, that actually just happened.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Literally right now. Wait, what? What the fuck? Yep. We'll fuck everything. The bears suck. This is just stupid. Red rifle, baby.
Starting point is 00:23:11 God damn it. He didn't do the rust tweet. The orange. Fuck that. Cancel everything. He's going to look good. Hey, bears. There's another day.
Starting point is 00:23:18 You know what? This is all destiny because that one time I said that Andy Dalton was better than Jay Cutler and then Jay Cutler didn't talk to me for five years. We're going to find out. Fuck all this. We're going to find out. It is going to pop with that orange. Oh, you're right, Billy.
Starting point is 00:23:31 OK, so that actually a little behind the scenes magic. PFT broke the Andy Dalton news to me right as I was standing up right as we were finishing finishing the show and I had to run and jump on a phone call. I did the phone call. I didn't leave the office because I got even more mad. So here is the less knee jerk, more mad reaction. Positive vibes only, though, Big Cat. Start out.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Say something nice about Andy Dalton. I say this luggage once. He's not Nick Foles. That is correct. I don't physically. He's a different person than Nick Foles is. Actually, let me I'm a counter. He is Nick Foles.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Disagree. Nick Foles, Nick Foles, actually, Big Cat, this could be a good thing because I don't think they're going to start Nick. Well, they know Nick Foles is not Andy Dalton. OK, so they're not going to start Nick Foles. They're going to start Andy Dalton this year. Now, when is Nick Foles as at his very best as a backup? Boom. But he was and then he was bad.
Starting point is 00:24:34 You got Nick Foles, a mushroom, a Mario Kart mushroom by getting Andy Dalton on the team. We're in the trustry. So I'm going to tell you the worst part about this. You actually, everyone listened to the first part of the show where I was like, I hope we don't sign Andy Dalton. The Bears are just like going around. They're the guy sitting with the pizza.
Starting point is 00:24:51 I did the analogy, the coward analogy. I did all that deep down in my like the back of my head. I was like, I think the Bears aren't signing Andy Dalton because they got something in the works with Russell Wilson and wrong. Every time the Bears have the chance to possibly do a franchise altering move, they find a way not to do it. Every time they figure out there's a there's a chance and maybe the Russell Wilson was never a real chance.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Sheftar reported that the Seahawks were like, we're not trading them. So shut up to Sean Watson. They're not taking calls. I get all that. The Bears are just destined to never have a quarterback. And on top of all of this, you can say to me that, OK, the plan is not Nick Foles and Andy Dalton to be the starters all year. They're going to draft someone. But Nick Foles and Andy Dalton are just good enough
Starting point is 00:25:40 to keep you out of the top five of the draft. And you know what? Now that I've even said this, I've worked this through my brain. It doesn't matter if the Bears have a top draft pick because we had a top draft pick and we drafted Mr. Biskie. Mitchell. I hate. I hate it. It just sucks the salt. This is sucks all the fun out of.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I don't want to be. It's tough. I don't want to be here because this is the one signing that you guys could make that it essentially ruins the next 10 months of your life. And you know that it's going to happen. Like, are you is there any part of you at all that's like Andy could do this? I'm excited to see anything Andy Dalton does. Yes. Yes. Big part of me. Absolutely. I already tweeted the clip of him firing up the boys in the title.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I've told myself, hey, Andy Dalton had that year where everything worked perfectly. The problem is the Bears now have two guys that are what we always talk about. The everything else has to be perfect guys. Everything else has to be perfect guys for Andy Dalton and Nick Foles to succeed. And not everything's perfect. The offensive line still has problems. And guess what? If you're a defensive player, like I would be shot. If Clueless Mack just retired, I wouldn't I wouldn't like blame him.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Yeah. If he was like, really, you're going to have to be my quarterback. It's tough to have this to look forward to for the future. Stay woke. I don't think that I think there's a good chance that Russell Wilson never even wanted to leave Seattle. He this might have all just been one giant joke on the Bears from the get go where Russell Wilson is like, what franchises would you like to go? I mean, we should have known it. He's like, Russ, where do you want to go play?
Starting point is 00:27:07 And he's like, I'd like to be the quarterback for the Bears or the Jets. I think he was just fucking with you this entire time. He probably was. And you know what? I was the worst part about it was I was going to. I was literally going to become like a Jesus freak for Russell Wilson. I was ready. I was ready to just show up, do this podcast, say lame cliches. You're going to suck down fake water.
Starting point is 00:27:26 And everyone would be like, what? Why did you say like, no, I just love my car. I mean, that's how much it means. Your summertime attire is not far away from Russ Wilson. She gets the Hawaiian shirts, light colored jeans. I was going to do that. Sneakers. Yeah, I just don't look. It's a sick fit. What do you think? And let's just end here, because I actually am like,
Starting point is 00:27:45 this is going to ruin my night. This is going to ruin my favorite week of the year. Do you think Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy? Like, do you think when they sit there, all the lights are off at a house hall? It's just it's just Ryan Pace's office. Matt Nagy's grabbing his suitcase or whatever the fuck he's got his clipboard. He's walking out after a long, hard day of work, and he stops by Ryan Pace's office and he sits down and they rehash and like, man, we're nailing this.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like, we're fucking we're crushing this. I think they're talking themselves into. I think what would happen was they reached a point where they're like, I think Russell Wilson is not going to come here. And then they said, you know what? We don't want we want guys that want to be here. We want guys that want to be in Chicago. No more Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Andy Dalton, would you like $12 million? And he was like, yes, sirs. OK, good. He wants to be here. That's the guy that wants to be a bear. And so they're like, yes, we did a good job because we could have tried to keep pursuing a guy that didn't want to be here. And so, yeah, I think at the end of the day, they did something. They did they they executed a transaction.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I don't like that they're making me hate Andy Dalton, because Andy Dalton's a nice guy. Like he's a nice guy, but I have no choice. You the bears have made me hate nice guys like I didn't want to. Like they just they do this. They they they're just so incompetent and so fucking stupid. And they're going to do a press conference tomorrow the next day and be like, oh, well, you know, we think that Andy gives us a good shot.
Starting point is 00:29:10 When we've got a great quarterback competition, competition breeds, you know, the the sharp the iron sharpens iron, blah, blah, blah, blah, competition, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, fuck you, Matt Niggi, you bald fuck. So what? And Ryan Pace, your hair is not even that good. I actually I actually didn't mean it when I said his hair was good. You don't you don't mean that. No, I mean it. What if they trade up?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Please take out what if they trade up and they do the same thing they did to Glennon this time around? Would you be like, yeah, that makes sense, good, whatever. Let's just get a high pick quarterback in here. Sure. Yeah. If they got Matt Jones somehow, like I would be all in. I just I have a feeling that they think this is the move. Like this is going to be we're going to go into the season
Starting point is 00:29:48 and maybe we'll catch lightning in the bottle. You know what they are? They're running the bears the way I gamble. Like maybe today I'll get hot. Guess what? I have never gotten hot. They're saying, hey, maybe today the signing is going to work. It's not. It's just not. It's tough because they got like diet
Starting point is 00:30:06 Kirk Cousins to come in. They're looking at the Vikings and they're like, you know what? If we can go with their model and get getting Kirk Cousins type guy in here, then maybe we can make the playoffs occasional. They honestly should trade for Kirk Cousins. They should trade for Kirk Cousins. They should trade for Alex Smith, collect them all.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Just collect them all. Just get all the quarterbacks that we know can't do anything like of substance, but are good enough to just look the part a few weeks of the year. Yeah, get all the guys that we remember that are on like the end of their trajectories. Get Blaine Gabbard in there, Ryan Mallett, all our old friends, Brandon Whedon.
Starting point is 00:30:41 All right, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. I'm just sad. All right, Hot Seat Cool Throne. Bill, you want to start? Yeah, Hot Seat. Looking good. Let me see your shirt. Let me see your shirt. Let me. I like that was a Dantara shirt.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, I want that. Yeah, we're going to do that. I think what we're going to do with the Dantara shirts, my plan for the future of the line is just like, we're going to take all the best classic rock album covers of all time and just incorporate Dan Campbell. Well, I mean, we need to do Dantallica because that is his favorite band.
Starting point is 00:31:11 We'll do Dantallica. I want to do with Iron Maiden with the Trooper. That's going to be sweet. I can't wait to steal all those from the office. Cool. Billy, you're looking good. Thank you. Cargo. Are you a Ravens fan today? No. You got the Cargo Camo pants.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I like that. We'll fix it after we'll fix it after. Go ahead. Hot Seat, the NFL, Bill Belichick going nuts and free agency. Yeah, we had a point. We didn't bring that up. We spent a couple of hours talking about that. Well, but anyway, he's going nuts.
Starting point is 00:31:45 He is going nuts. So what's your take on that, Billy? I think he just knows that, you know, he's got money to spend. And he can absolutely utilize free agency and utilize money to acquire players. Yeah, which he's never really done before. I mean, if you saw that stat that our friend Warren Sharp. Yep. I didn't see that.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He spent like $400 million in the last 15 years and like 150 in the last two days. Twelve personnel. Yeah. OK. And your cool. My cool throne is us because spring is coming. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Short. Short. Short to the back.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah, Billy. If you can't tell, Billy just walked in here from driving to work. So that is that's a really good think on your feet. Yeah, that was I thrive on chaos. Yes. Yes. You thrive under chaos. All right. Hank, you're who's back? My hot seat is PFT commentator. Drake released three new songs last week,
Starting point is 00:32:47 and they're now one, two and three on the billboard. Oh, yeah, we all pay attention to that. They're hot. They're good spotify now, Hank. We don't listen to I'm sure they're in the top of their one, two and three and spotify. Yeah, I don't think so. No, I'm sure they actually are. OK, well, a lot of people voted for Hitler, too. So whoa, I'm just saying just because a lot of people like it.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Shit. OK. Facts don't care about your feelings, Hank. Also, Indiana fans hoping Brad Stevens is coming there on the hot seat. He officially said that he has no interest in going. He's going. Well, we'll talk to the Titus about this because I'm sure he'll have some special effects.
Starting point is 00:33:19 But to me, Brad Stevens just kind of feels like the name out there that's more fun to talk about all the time than it is. Like the second he goes to Indiana, it's not fun anymore. Yes. Yes, we'll never. No one goes from the pros to the college unless they are like shitty in the pros, which is not. Jim Harba and basketball in basketball. They don't do that.
Starting point is 00:33:38 But, you know, Calpari sucked, went back. Larry Brown, Larry Brown in the pros. Yeah, I got you. Larry Brown sucked. And then I think you got it. Do you get a chip? Yeah, but then he went to the accused. He was Fred Huyberg sucked.
Starting point is 00:33:56 And my cool thing is UFC. So UFC announced UFC 261 is going to be a sold out full crowd in Jacksonville. It's a stacked card. It will be the first time we watch sports full crowds. Wow. What is that? I think a month. Oh, wow. And people are going to jump down.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Dana White's throat about this, but I actually agree with the location because if you swam in that pool in Jacksonville Stadium, you've got antibodies for every vaccine or every disease that's ever been conjured up on planet Earth. It was been massive all too. By the way, the Indiana Archie Miller, it's crazy how quickly the perfect hire becomes terrible,
Starting point is 00:34:34 but I read a report, well, Fred Huyberg was never the perfect hire. I read a report that it was all just basically two boosters. One booster paid $10 million to get him out, to buy him out, and another booster was like, I'll pay for whatever the new coach is. I love that about college. But we should try and get a big booster on this show,
Starting point is 00:34:53 like how much money do you have to have to be like, I want to pay $10 million to have a fucking basketball coach, not be the basketball coach. $100 million. Boosters are essentially if you are rich enough, you're super rich. Like the Texas stuff too. Yeah, but you're not rich enough to own a team yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:10 So you basically kind of own a team by being a very influential booster, who the second you don't like a coach, because you can say, all right, get him out of here, I'll pay for it. Yeah, you can think that you own the team, which is the best part of owning a team. You sort of do own part of it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Like the guy who got Archie Miller fired, he is kind of an owner of the team, because he essentially said, he called him up, was like, I've seen enough of this shit, I'm sick of it, $10 million, get him out of here. Right, I feel like I would like to be a very, a small booster for a program. Like just contribute a small amount of money,
Starting point is 00:35:40 but enough for me to say like, yeah, I am a booster. And then just go whichever way the wind blows. So when all the big boosters want to coach out, I can be like, yeah, I want him out too. And then I'll get credit for kicking that guy out. Yeah, yeah. Having, yeah, getting to tell people that you have the power is way better
Starting point is 00:35:55 than actually having any responsibility. Booster life's gotta be sweet though. It has to be sweet. All right, PFT. All right, my hot seat this week is gonna be Dan Bilzerian. Dan Bilzerian's on the hot seat, because I've decided that I am going to get a six pack
Starting point is 00:36:13 and a beard and just take my shirt off all summer. And I'm gonna live at the beach. This is gonna be the summer of the beach for me. You can't grow a beard. Well, actually, actually. You went with beard first? Well, actually, Hank. Technically, in theory, feasible.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Well, here's the thing. You could grow your facial hair for the rest of your life and it would look. Nick gave me a supplement earlier today. And the supplement, I forget what it's called. It's called Man the Fuck Up. So it sounds like a legit medical product. And it's supposed to just grow facial hair
Starting point is 00:36:44 on dudes that can't grow facial hair. I'll support anything in your endeavor of your midlife crisis. Thank you, yes. Because it's been going on for a while now. Thank you, yeah. I'm just struggling. Living at the beach.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Just constantly changing. I'm gonna get a Jeep Wrangler. Yeah, no, it's gonna be sick. You'll get through it. Like, eventually, you'll just be like, hey, I am in my late 30s. Like, oh, this is just how time works. But not yet.
Starting point is 00:37:06 But I'm not gonna push you there. But not yet. Yeah, Billy. Can one of you guys get on TRT or HGH already? I'm, I told you I want testosterone. I have low T. Billy, I just told you I took a supplement called Man the Fuck Up.
Starting point is 00:37:16 If you put something in front of me, I will take it. Okay. I told you I need testosterone. I will pass myself on getting you guys testosterone. I told you I wanted some. TRT. Okay. Why'd you look in the camera?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Was it, do you have an ad? Are you selling side ads? No. You definitely have a side ad. You just looked in the camera like, you are T. Super male vitality clinic in Hoxah Tuckett, New Jersey. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:40 What's your cool throne? My cool throne is old people. Yeah. Old people, because Sister Jean. Which you are one. Sister Jean is back. Sister Jean is going to the tournament. I'm not old.
Starting point is 00:37:47 I'm 36. I'm 36 and that's fine. But I do, I get carded every time I order here. Yeah. Sister Jean is going to the tournament. So, I don't know how smart of an idea this is. I like the fact that we're gonna get to talk about Sister Jean more.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's just drive. Yeah, during, what's Sister Jean's life gonna be like during quarantine? It's just a drive. She's gonna be, I don't think she would sit in a room watching prices right all day long. I don't think she even has the quarantine.
Starting point is 00:38:11 You don't think so? No, because she's a fan. God, because it got, oh. No, she's a fan. She's probably going as a fan. I think she's going with the team though. Oh, well no, because if she hasn't gone already, the team's already there.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Yeah, I think they just, they took her, I think today to Indianapolis. I mean, her life is probably quarantine. Yeah, but she's over a hundred, right? Like nothing has changed. How old is Sister Jean? She just changed the location. She's a hundred and six.
Starting point is 00:38:33 She's a hundred and six? She's a hundred and one. She was born in 1919. Damn dude. Good for her. That's crazy. That's when Babe Ruth got, no, no. The Babe Ruth what?
Starting point is 00:38:44 That was 1918, my bad. That's crazy. She is good for her. Still kicking. Good for her. All right, my hot seat is me because the Antifa cat is back. The picture that looks exactly like me.
Starting point is 00:38:59 It's a bad look. I understand it's a bad look. Did you see Antifa cat? Because Billy, I need you, like buff cat exists. That is Billy getting me testosterone in 10 years of hard work and diet and not eating any carbs.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Antifa cat is like four days of eating wings which I'll do this weekend. I will be in a scarf, I'll be Antifa cat. That's how unfair the sliding scale is. It didn't help that he had the exact same type of facial hair like the beard that was maybe three days without shaving. And just the look of despair in his eyes that you get after an oh and eight night gamble.
Starting point is 00:39:32 After Andy Dalton. Yeah, and that is St. Cat post and post no Russell Wilson. Fuck. And then I had vampire Peter Schrager next to me. So that was interesting too. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and then my cool throne. I, Billy, you kind of stole it.
Starting point is 00:39:46 It is all of us because I am, I just want to just take a moment here and just say that I was coming into work today and I realized March Madness really is just the best thing of all time. It's just the best thing of all time. Spring coinciding with March Madness, St. Patrick's Day. Just everything feels like it has been restored.
Starting point is 00:40:11 There's nothing like this weekend we're gonna have and there's nothing like that first few days of spring. We've also got a fall start, winter came back, but the first few days of spring, it's just, just embrace it, just enjoy it. I did throw my phone against the wall today because I got an alert from weather saying snow should expect to start falling in the next 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:40:29 I was like, fuck you, I wore shorts last week. Yeah, no, I know, the fall start always sucks. And then I looked at, so last night I looked at Chicago weather. We're gonna be in Chicago this weekend from March Madness and I pulled up the app. I was like, maybe it'll be 60 in Chicago. That's not how weather works, it turns out. So, but yeah, spring is here.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Listen, this weekend's gonna be so fun. It really is, like four days nonstop of college basketball. I just filled myself with so much information. I can't wait to just go against everything I'm trying to learn. And I always like, I do, I watch and gamble on college basketball all year long. And I do like have a pretty good grasp of what's going on, but it still does not matter.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I still will just, it will be Friday night, will be a train wreck, a train wreck, but that's okay. Have you guys noticed that the bracket industrial complex isn't really cranking them out like they used to? And by that I mean like the brackets where it's like fast food brackets. Brackets are the best. I'm so out on those.
Starting point is 00:41:25 I'm so out on those. I know, I'm saying like it's been done and done every single year and they just haven't done it. Was there a meeting? I hope there was because I'm over it. The only bracket I wanted to see was Billy's quarterback bracket, which I think he finished today. Billy?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. So first one is Trevor Lawrence versus Sam Elger. Okay. And that was one seed versus the last seed. And what's the last seed? Same Elger. No, but what is the number? Does the bracket exist?
Starting point is 00:41:58 I don't think there's a mental bracket. No, no, no, it's, it's 12. Okay, oh, 12. So you have 10 more quarterbacks to name right. Wait, no, is it each region? Yeah. Is there's 12 in each region? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Okay. All right. Actually there should just be two quarterbacks, the one seed Trevor Lawrence and the 12 seed Sam Elger. And then that's for the championship. And Sam Elger. 12 total bracket. There's a big upset.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Sam Elger upset. Upset. Then we have Sam Elger versus. This bracket does just exist in Billy's brain. I like this. Keep going. I still like this. I'm back in.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Justin Fields who won his play in, which was a playing game between. Justin Fields and. No, Justin Fields. And. Beat. Uh-huh. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:42:50 The NDSU kid. Tray Lance. Tray Lance. And then Justin Fields beats Sam Elger. Okay. And he's in the championship. First. Wait, what happened on the other side?
Starting point is 00:43:01 We're on the other side. Okay. We have the Texas A&M quarterback. Okay, Mond. Mond. Kellan Mond. Yes. Kenny Football.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And he played the. Zach Wilson. Yes. I shouldn't have given you that. Yeah. There's no chance that's what it was. Zach Wilson won. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And then he played. Mac Jones. Mac Jones. Okay. Mac Jones won. Against who? Mac Jones had a buy. Because he won the national championship.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Yeah. That's totally fair. Mac Jones plays Justin Fields and. No, wait. Mac Jones beat Zach Wilson? Yes. Okay. So it's Mac Wilson versus.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Mac Jones versus Justin Fields in the final. Right. And who won? Okay, wait, wait, wait. Should we wait to put out the winner? Yes. What about Ian Book? Did Ian Book compete?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Or did he have COVID? Ian Book was the buy. Ian Book, no, no, COVID. He got COVID. He got COVID. He's playing in the COVID tournament. Okay. Against Jack Cohn.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Yes. All right. No, he's transferred in order name now. Oh, really? Yeah. Hell yeah. Grad year. Jackie Heisman.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Oh, man. That was stressful. I feel stressed out looking at you. All right. That was a great bracket. I got an exam at 9 a.m. tomorrow. I'm very stressed. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:44:25 It's tough. When you're listing this and it's 9 a.m. I can't wait for 12 hours from now. I can't wait till you graduate college and like figure out what excuse you're going to use when college is gone. Oh, I'm going to have no excuse. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:37 But you will have an excuse because you're Billy. No, no, no. The excuse will be gone. You'll be like, whoa. How did he do so much work? How did he do so well when he had excuses? That's what you're going to say. And you're going to appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So you just graded yourself as well? Yes. Real talk, Billy. That was impressive. That was. That's the best thing that you've done in a long time. Thank you. This is an awesome week.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Clip that, Liam. I want the whole bracket out. So people can vote on it. We'll vote on it, right? Yep. There'll be an element. 100%. If you want to make your own bracket.
Starting point is 00:45:09 In the program behind the bracket, you did program a voting element, right? In the coding? No. Well, this was through the, well, that depends on if it was Yahoo or ESPN bracket that you were filling out. Billy, you have the complete bracket, right?
Starting point is 00:45:25 So you guys can make your own bracket. I just seeded them. Yep. And we'll figure it out. Just write them down, draw a bracket on here and take a picture of it and then blog the picture. Awesome. OK, all right.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Let's get to our friend Mark Titus before we do that. A quick word from our friend at Noom? Yeah, great friends at Noom. If you're like me and you're going to get in hella shape this summer, a great way to do it is with our friends over at Noom. If you can think about everything you've ever learned about getting healthy, there's
Starting point is 00:45:51 a ton of contradictory information out there. And things like that old fashioned food pyramid aren't much help at all. So enter Noom. You know how to chew. You know how to use chopsticks, maybe. You know how to fold a slice of pizza so the cheese doesn't slide off and you get that perfect first
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Starting point is 00:46:19 He used to have us on ketosis but then replace our food every other day because it turns out that that certain type of nut wasn't actually keto friendly. I've gotten some bad advice in the past. Moving forward, it's not about what you just ate but about how you eat in general. So Noom is going to teach you about eating, your cravings,
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Starting point is 00:47:08 It's very hard. I think we could get you there. That's a lot of weight. Can I build a six pack while not losing all that fat? Yes, you could build the core muscle. That's what I want to do. I just want to have abs that are so strong that they poke through the fat in my stomach,
Starting point is 00:47:22 that they defeat the fat around it and push it around and move it down to my thighs and ass. Can I do that? Yeah. OK. And Noom is going to help me with the eating component. It's going to teach me how to feel better. It's going to help me understand my cravings.
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Starting point is 00:48:27 You can go listen to the Titus and Tate podcast. Ready for this? I'm going to give you a nice little plug. The Titus and Tate podcast has the best intro music outside of Electric Avenue. And if you haven't heard it, you got to go listen and hear it. Because it pumps me up all the time
Starting point is 00:48:46 when I hear the technical foul, technical foul. It's a nephew Kyle original, I think. Oh. I don't know if I'm kidding. Shout out nephew Kyle. I don't know where the suckers are. I love that. Did he ever try to put any bars over it?
Starting point is 00:48:58 I know that he raps. He probably did. Like, I legitimately have no idea. When we started the podcast, I pitched an 80s hair metal rock song as the intro. And Kyle and Tate both looked at me like, what is this? They're very into not that kind of stuff. So I don't know where the song came from.
Starting point is 00:49:17 They dug it out. I don't know if they made it or what. Yeah, we'll take that. It's the best. And I think I can say this because we have met nephew Kyle when we're out for Grit Week. But I still just laugh about nephew Kyle having the one shining podcast tattoo on his leg.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Not on his leg? Yeah, it's on his leg. Not on his arm. It's on his forearm. Not understanding that in the media world, people don't just stay at companies forever. Not everyone's related. And so you have a job for life at one particular place.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Great tattoo. Right. Yeah. But that makes us love him. That's what, if he didn't do that sort of thing. That's a ride or die guy. We wouldn't love him as much. Yeah, Hank has a goldfish on his leg.
Starting point is 00:49:56 So we can relate. Like, we know that. All right, let's talk some March Madness. The biggest story about this bracket is that next year we'll be looking at one. And Brad Stevens will be coaching Indiana. Let's do it. Big Cat, you're speaking my language.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I have been very distracted this week with Brad Stevens. I've reached the point where I no longer know where I stand, where reality and the meme world have come together. It is all merged into one. I have mean myself into believing that this is a possible thing. I'm watching press conferences that I'd never
Starting point is 00:50:33 cared to watch before. I'm on message boards in ways that I never thought I would be. Yeah, I don't know. I'm talking myself into it. And it doesn't matter if it's real or not. I think it's just like the state of the world. We're coming out of a pandemic. We didn't have an NCAA tournament last year.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I don't see the harm in wanting to believe in something. You know, I don't see the harm. So his wife is actually from Indiana, right? It's true. Wait, but here's the harm. PFT actually has made this point. I agree with him. If Brad Stevens goes to Indiana, there goes all of our jokes.
Starting point is 00:51:03 That is true. I don't know what I don't. I think we shut it down. The, I mean, I don't, yeah, that's a great point. I think I shut down my Twitter account. Yeah, it's like, I picked up the Mandel from Trill Ballons when he, when he left Twitter and I was like, I'll take care of this myself, Trill, because we were both like kind of leading
Starting point is 00:51:17 the charge, but Trill was doing it better than I was. So I kind of stepped back and then Trill got off Twitter, obviously. So I was like, I guess I got to keep it alive. And yeah, yeah, Brad takes the job and it's over. It's like Heath Ledger in the Joker circa 2008. 1997, 1997, when he says, I'm like a dog chasing an ambulance. I don't know what I would do if I caught it or chasing a car,
Starting point is 00:51:40 whatever it is. I'm sure John Ross and you'll clear me up on that one. But yeah, like if he goes to Indiana, I don't think that's going to be that fun. It's just going to be like, oh, yeah, Brad Stevens is a coach at Indiana now. What do we do? Like we just kind of look at each other like, I guess we'll go
Starting point is 00:51:53 home now. But it will be funny to go back on Twitter and see like Trill back in 2012, 2013, being like, I'm hearing that Brad Stevens is going to go to Indiana. There's going to be like all these, they already new accounts like retweeting this guy, but holy shit, this guy had some insight. If I remember right, Trill's bit too is he'd always misspelled
Starting point is 00:52:14 Brad. It would be like brand Stephens or something. It's like, I'm hearing brand Stephens. When it comes to the actual job at Indiana, I think you and I might differ on this one. I don't think that it's that great of a job. People talk about the Indiana job like it's like you're the king of the world once you get there.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It's the pinnacle of like, it's the best job that you can have in America, regardless of profession. I don't think that it's that good of a job anymore. I see why you would think that. I think the reason people are excited about Brad going to IU is that, listen, I don't actually think it's going to happen, in all honesty. I don't think it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I do think there's more, it's greater than a 0% chance. I think the people that are like, he would never do this, they're just as stupid as guys like me that are trying to meme it into existence. I think it's somewhere in the middle. If Indiana offers them like a 10-year contract to double the salary, of course, he's going to be like, all right, I'll think about it and then call him back and say, never mind.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But he's going to consider it, surely. It would be stupid not to. But the reason it gets beaten down that he's from Indiana is because I say this as a guy who grew up in the town next to where Brad grew up. He was from Zionsville, I'm from Brownsburg, they're right next to each other. The culture of Indiana basketball just seeps into you.
Starting point is 00:53:30 And I'm talking about the university. Whether you're a fan of IU or not, it is it. It is like the pinnacle. It's one of the programs. It's like Indiana, Kentucky, I'd say North Carolina and Kansas. Those are the four that if you grow up in those states, you can't escape it. You'll never escape it, whether you're a fan of it or not.
Starting point is 00:53:50 And there's almost a sense of obligation to it. I feel guilty. I already start thinking. I live in LA now, obviously. I've already started thinking. Yeah, I don't know if you heard. I couldn't tell from your Instagram. I have already started thinking as a man who is not married,
Starting point is 00:54:06 who does not have kids. I start thinking, if I have a family, do I need to move back to Indiana so my kids can grow up and play in Hoosier Hysteria? And I don't know, do you feel the draw? It's real. So in that regard, I think Indiana is still a great job for people from Indiana.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Now, the idea of getting a J Wright, for example, or Tony Bennett, who didn't grow up there, that's absurd. They're not going to leave to go back to Indiana. But I don't know, if you grew up there, it's one of those deals. It's just like it's a cultural thing. They have unlimited money, it sounds like. The way the athletic director's talking is like,
Starting point is 00:54:38 they'll pay whatever it takes to get whoever they want. And I don't know, the fan base is rabid. You're always going to have great recruits. Yeah, that's the thing. People bring up Nebraska football. That's kind of the analogy people seem to make between Indiana and Nebraska. But the state of Indiana is still pumping out five stars
Starting point is 00:54:56 every year. So I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I still see it as a job that everyone should want. Maybe not, like you said, a J Wright or someone like that. But they do have the homegrown talent. And that's like step one to succeeding in college sports is can you just basically show up, do the press conference and be like, hey,
Starting point is 00:55:18 we're going to lock down the border and we'll compete. Yeah, the analogy I would use to believe, and there might be a slim sliver of hope of rad going to IU is when Roy left Kansas to go to North Carolina, where Kansas is not the Boston Celtics. I'm not saying it's the exact same. But Roy Williams was playing in the National Championship game in 2003.
Starting point is 00:55:39 He had obviously a great program at Kansas. Kansas is one of the blue bloods. But there's something in Roy Williams that was like, I have to go back home. I have to do this for Dean Smith. I have to. And I think Indiana fans have convinced themselves that that same thing is just ruminating a Brad Stevens mind.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Who cares if I do this in Boston? Nothing I accomplish in my career matters unless it happens in Indiana. Because that's just how people in Indiana think. It's like that's the only basketball state that matters. And Shaka Smart's going to do the same thing with Wisconsin. And I'm excited for that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm actually rooting for you. Tony's going to do it. Tony Bennett. I'm rooting against Texas in the tournament, just so I'm like, hey, maybe if he gets bounced early. Because there was definitely some smoke around Shaka this year. And they've had a very good year. But I was like, maybe this could work.
Starting point is 00:56:23 And he could go to Madison. And that would actually change everything. If I remember right, it came on the show at the beginning of the season. You asked me about Texas. And I said they were going to be, they were high expectations. But they were going to just flounder and end up.
Starting point is 00:56:36 The kind of like the season that they're having is sort of what I expected. But they got really good. I'm starting to believe in them too. You believe in them, Dan? A little bit. I do. The only thing is they don't, they're really good.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Like when I watch them, they're really good. That big 12 championship game, Oklahoma State was playing unbelievable basketball. And Texas really kind of had that in hand for the majority of the game. I just think that they play like good defense. And I don't know, Shaka, like, maybe it's one of those things. It's kind of like when you see Wichita State, who
Starting point is 00:57:06 is garbage, by the way, in the tournament. And you say to yourself, well, Wichita State, who knows? Shaka, something about him in a tournament setting, you're like, yeah, you could do it. Why not? He's done it before, right? That's all that matters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:20 That's a big thing with college basketball, is if you've done it before, people believe in you. If you've never done it, nobody believes in you. And it's a sport where, as our friend John Rostin says, the unexpected becomes the ordinary. And yet, we go into every tournament, and we're like, there's no way that this team, there's no way Baylor could go to a Final Four.
Starting point is 00:57:40 They've never done it before. I don't trust them. They're going to choke. But the last two tournaments, a 16 seed, beat a one seed. And then Virginia won the national title, which was never going to happen. Because Tony Bennett's style doesn't work. And then a tournament was canceled.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I mean, those are the last three things that have happened. People will still say this year, there's no way it could happen because that just doesn't ever happen. To answer your real question about Texas, so I think they're in that group of teams that they don't do anything exceptional, but they do both things OK. So it's like, if they can just do both those OK things
Starting point is 00:58:12 a little bit better in a tournament setting, who knows? The thing I love about Texas is they have experienced guards who are a little crazy in a good way. They have guys that, I was in Asheville during the Maui Invitational, which you want to talk about a bummer, is seeing Maui Invitational branding all over Asheville, North Carolina. And Texas was playing there.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And so I got up close. And I was one of the few people in the arena because it was a bubble situation. And I say that to say, the Texas guards, like Matt Coleman, Courtney Ramey especially, they're kind of crazy. Before the tip of every game, they're talking to themselves and hyping themselves up
Starting point is 00:58:50 and like, I don't know how else to explain it, but they're out of their minds in the best way that you want a basketball player to be. And I love that idea of them in March just going crazy. I don't know. It works for me. How much stock do you put in momentum going into the tournament? Because there's one team in particular
Starting point is 00:59:09 that I feel like all the casuals out there, of which I am not one, it's like a perfect storm of people circulating around this one team because they have the momentum. That's Georgetown. So they won the tournament, right? They won the Big East Tournament. And then they've got Patrick Ewing as their head coach. They love Patrick Ewing.
Starting point is 00:59:25 They love a guy that goes back as Alma Mater. He's their coach. Takes the mantle from all the John Thompson's builds on the program. They've got a cute dog that rides a skateboard across the court. And they've just got one of those names where like, you remember when you hear Georgetown, you're like, yeah. I remember when they were good, old school,
Starting point is 00:59:42 like tough, hard nose, no blood, no foul basketball. I feel like a lot of people are doing that. Plus, they're the 12 seeds. So everyone also knows like 12 always beats a five. So, but I feel like all those people are kind of way off base when it comes to this Georgetown team because I don't think that this Georgetown team is actually any good at all.
Starting point is 01:00:00 No, they're not. They're not good, but they won the Big East Tournament. You got to give them props for that. Yeah, if you squint enough, the Georgetown looks like the Georgetown of old. Patrick Ewing looks like John Thompson in the right. You know, like it feels very similar. The big guy, the big imposing figure on the sidelines.
Starting point is 01:00:19 The other thing we're gonna do in their favor, they're playing Colorado, Pac-12 team. So this is old Big East versus Pac-12. We're gonna get like a definitive answer on the softness of the West Coast versus the toughness of the East Coast. The thing that scares me about Georgetown is that they seem, not that they shouldn't celebrate
Starting point is 01:00:36 winning the Big East Tournament, but that seems like, that seems like, it feels like they might be happy to be here, you know? And it feels like they won the Big East. That was like their crowning achievement. This is the trophy they're gonna put in their trophy case. I don't, when the 12-5 upsets typically happen, the 12 is usually, it's usually a situation
Starting point is 01:00:53 like Winthrop and Villanova, where it's a small school that's really good and they just didn't play the hardest schedule so they get a 12 seed. It's not, I don't really, I don't really love to believe in 12 seeds that are power conference schools. So I don't know, but I also did not think Georgetown
Starting point is 01:01:08 was gonna win a single game in the Big East Tournament. They won four in a row. So what the hell do I know? And the other 12-5 that I think everyone has circles is the Creighton UCSB, because Creighton is the other side of like momentum, where they've completely fallen on their face. Obviously they had the P word that Doug McDermott dropped,
Starting point is 01:01:27 senior, Doug McDermott, senior. Let me just throw that out there. UCSB, everyone's picking. I'm always worried with 12-5. I just listened to like the 12s that everyone loves and I'm like, how is that gonna work? Like Creighton's gonna come out and beat them by 100 probably.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, I don't think UCSB's gonna win. Like UCSB's won a ton of games and they're really good. But one of the things that's weird about this season that's different from typical seasons, when you look at like the mid majors that are winning a ton of games, they, a lot of these teams are not playing. Mid majors typically never play awesome schedules,
Starting point is 01:02:01 but they usually like play like a handful of like power conference teams in non-conference. Because of COVID, there are a lot of teams, like Colgate's the most extreme example. They played like five teams. And you look up and you're like, all right, you're 14-1, you're almost undefeated. But at the same time, like, what does this mean?
Starting point is 01:02:17 I have no idea. There's no data points. That's what's terrifying me about this year is like, UCSB is a team that I would look at under normal circumstances and say, I might believe in you. But this year, their schedule is really bad. They won a lot of games, they're good.
Starting point is 01:02:32 But I don't, it would not surprise me at all if Creighton just like blows the doors off them, especially how good Creighton could be when they're good. Yeah, this is not a fun time. This is the worst part of my job. This is by far the worst part of my job. It's like this week trying to like predict what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I don't know. So I just want to note, when Mark says that Colgate has played like four teams, he's not joking. Their regular season, they played Army four times. They played Boston University four times. They played Holy Cross four times. That was their entire regular season. And then in the conference tournament,
Starting point is 01:03:06 they played BU again. And then they added Bucknell and Loyola, Maryland. It's the craziest schedule to look at and be like, wait, they actually literally only played five total teams this entire season. So when Clark Kellogg sees him come up against Arkansas and he starts just giggling because he can't stop thinking about how great that game is going to be
Starting point is 01:03:24 and how up tempo it's going to be, it's actually a pretty small sample size of defenses that that Colgate offense has played against. Yes, yes. It's like, like Moses Moody is 10,000 times better than any player Colgate has seen this season. And sometimes that matters. That's what's, yeah, it's never fun, like trying to figure out
Starting point is 01:03:45 what the hell is going to happen in this tournament, but trying to stuff stuff like that out for this tournament. Also, like trying to remember who's on, who's coming off of a COVID pause, who got like better in a COVID, some teams like got better when they went on pause and they came back and they're like somehow better. Some teams are worse.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I can't keep track of it all. But I don't know, I've learned a lot from Big Cat. You've helped me a lot today. And it's like watching you fire off your picks and being wrong over and over and still have the courage to step up and be like, I think this is going to happen. It's, I cry every time I'm going down with the ship. I cry every time I put out it's,
Starting point is 01:04:17 I have a burner person now who puts out all my picks because I can't, I shut off the replies. I couldn't, the negative energy was all encompassing when people were just like, loser, loser, loser. Like, yep, you're right. It is, they're all losers, all. This is, this is, this is a haters paradise this week for, for, for college basketball media haters.
Starting point is 01:04:37 They just like, they're licking their lips, just waiting to see brackets. They're taking receipts left and right. And we got to keep our head on a swivel as media types. You know what though? To me, it's the man in the arena speech. Like I'm, I'm out there firing picks. Okay. You want to tell me that afterwards,
Starting point is 01:04:52 like that was the dumbest pick ever. I'm out there. I'm stepping up to the plate. I'm fucking firing off picks. Man in the arena, put a jersey on, come meet me and try to do better. That's LeBron speech, right? Yeah, LeBron actually said that.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Teddy Roosevelt stole it from LeBron afterwards. That is by far my favorite speech that any coach can ever give. It's usually after they just lose. It's just basically saying, you know what? We're not losers cause at least we tried. We tried hard. It's a participation trophy,
Starting point is 01:05:17 but it's a in speech form that you give yourself. So I always love that. I want to get you on record about Virginia Tech because I don't know if you saw this. We got, we got dragged. We got caught for an old take. Three years. We had three years ago about Virginia Tech
Starting point is 01:05:32 not being deserving of a 10 seed. And so we want to get you in the boat with us. This is actually be good. So hopefully Virginia Tech's media department will clip all of this once you tell us how much they're going to lose by against Florida. Well, this happened to me too, by the way. Michigan State did the exact same thing to me.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Took stuff out of context, stuffed it my face, but whatever. Like Michigan, I said on our show leading up towards the end of the season, the whole point I brought up on the show was that Michigan State still had a path to the tournament. I was like, everyone's burying all these blue bloods. They're saying Duke's done, Kentucky's done. At the time, North Carolina was done.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Michigan State can't make the tournament. And I looked at their schedule and I was like, oh my God, they're going to play like five top 10 team seed, but whatever it was. I was like, they have a loaded schedule down the stretch. They're not out of it yet. But at the same time, I don't think they're going to be able to beat all these teams.
Starting point is 01:06:22 So whatever. And then they clipped the part that I said, I don't think they're going to be able to beat all these teams. Shut up my face. So we're all in this together. I saw that clip. And so everyone's like, Michigan State had a video. You didn't say anything about it.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Michigan State's video said like work left to be done. Virginia Tech tweeted, thanks for doubting us. It's like, yeah, I'm going to keep doubting you guys. You're a 10 seed. Yeah. But it's good for the show, though, right? It's great. It's great for the show.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Honestly, we do stuff like that all the time to people. We'll probably take something that you say way out of context in this show. And then use that. When he said that thing? Well, his blood sugar was spiking, so we don't count that. But yeah, well, we do that shit all the time. And so I just charge you the game.
Starting point is 01:07:04 It's like, I respect what you've done here, Virginia Tech. So wait, how much did you say they were going to lose by again? I'm very scared. This is a very dangerous trap, because Virginia Tech, if they win, they're going to play Ohio State in the second round. So this would be doubly painful for me to just be like, Virginia Tech sucks. Wait, I just said, Virginia Tech, you can just clip that right there.
Starting point is 01:07:23 You said that too. Just clip that part. Wait, that's the entire cut of this interview we're taking. Yeah, Virginia Tech sucks. OK, so let's talk about your Buckeyes real quick. They just don't play defense. They don't. Seriously, though, do not think, I have this thought.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And you're going to disagree, and it's going to break my heart. But I genuinely think Ohio State is the most fun team in the country, because our offense is incredible. We are so skilled. We're very versatile. Every guy can make threes and put the ball on the floor. And we're very, very good offensively. We play no defense.
Starting point is 01:07:57 We choke away leads. And every game we're in seems to be close. Like, how is that not exactly what you won out of a March Madness team as a neutral fan? Yeah, no, they have absolutely. And they have the big guy who I fucking love, who is a mid-90s reliever through and through with the facial hair and the arm sleeve.
Starting point is 01:08:16 OK, young. Yeah, I love him. I agree with you that they are a fun team, because every game is just like, they could be up 15. They could be down 15. At some point, it's basically like watching Mario Kart. Like, you know if you're at 8, you'll get a lightning bolt, and you'll be back in first soon.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Oral Roberts has a guard who leads the country in scoring and has had multiple 40-point games this year. That's what we play in the first round. And I don't think we're going to lose. Clip that part, by the way. I don't think we're going to lose, but I think it's going to be an awesome game that's going to be worth watching.
Starting point is 01:08:48 And even if we win by 15, I think it's going to be fun to watch. So that's my, I swear, we're fun to watch, whether we win or not. I totally agree with you. I've watched many Ohio State games this year, and it's always been. I mean, the Ohio State Michigan game that they played before the Big 10 tournament was one of the best games of the year, by far.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Like Iowa, Gonzaga, that one. And actually, the LSU Alabama SEC Championship game was up there as well. Let's go other side of the spectrum of fun. Wisconsin Badgers are just brutal. It's rare. Usually, I'm used to it, because it's like, I know what the Badgers do.
Starting point is 01:09:25 The only thing that I have talked myself into is that UNC always does have trouble with Virginia. Wisconsin's kind of a Virginia light. Maybe that will be, maybe Wisconsin will hit their jump shots and turn Virginia or UNC over. And that's how we win. Wisconsin feels like a loveless marriage to me. That's the way I would describe it,
Starting point is 01:09:46 is like they all are looking at each other. They've been together for years, and they're like, this just isn't working, but at the same time, like let's stay together for the kids, and let's just see this thing. They're waiting for the kids to get out of high school, is what they're waiting on. And that's the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:10:02 That's going to come on Friday when they lose to North Carolina. And then they're like, all right, we can all go our own ways now. You realize your best win of the season is Loyola. No, I know. You beat Sister Jean. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:10:13 That's your best win of the season. We beat Louisville. What? We beat Louisville, too. Louisville almost made the tournament the first four out in bubble. No, you're right, though. That's a lovely, you're actually,
Starting point is 01:10:24 that's a perfect analogy. Like the Penn State game to even go micro on it. The Penn State game was like having some sex and being like, oh, this used to be fun. And then Penn State came back and you're like, oh, this is why we can never have sex because we end up fighting afterwards. Brad Davidson winning the game by calling time out
Starting point is 01:10:42 is like sticking a finger in your butt. You're like, oh, I feel alive again. And then you're like, oh, but at the same time, I don't think that's enough to turn this into a tournament. Is that to highlight, you think, Brad Davidson? It was actually an unbelievable play by him. Yeah, is it the best time out ever? It was a fucking great play.
Starting point is 01:11:01 And that's the thing, like they'll do things, like Trice will just hit a bunch of threes, you know, or Brad Davidson will do, like, I just, you're right. It is, I think this is why, and I still, I'm gonna root for them. I hope that they win. I like, they all are nice guys, but it does feel like something like they've been together
Starting point is 01:11:20 for too long and just doesn't work. Like they, it should work and it doesn't work. Yeah, it's, it's, it's the team that, I mean, you remember last year they sucked and then they got hot for like, at the end of the season. This is the team that sucked. Like overseeing is the team, the team they were all along. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:34 They were playing the best basketball in the big 10 last year in the month of February. Like they beat the last game that I watched. They beat Indiana at Indiana to win a share of the big 10. And I was like, wow, watch out for them. And then that just disappeared. I think the most frustrating part about Wisconsin this year is that they're not even interesting in how they're bad.
Starting point is 01:11:52 You know what I mean? Like even when they're bad, it's not like, I don't feel like I want to call people and talk about what's wrong with Wisconsin. I don't feel like, it's just, it's just like, It's sad. I mean, yeah. It's just like, I don't care enough to,
Starting point is 01:12:05 I don't care enough to care. I can, I can tell because I have like a group text message with, with my best friends from college. And it's like, as the season has gone along, it's now just me and one other guy watching every game. Like everyone's like, I got kids. Like I'm going to opt. Like I don't need to watch Wisconsin lose to Iowa again.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Like I'll just sit this out. Let me know when we're in the tournament. Mark, I want to ask you about, I want to get you on some, some more records for some fraud takes here. So I'm just going to have you incriminate yourself. If you were to give like, All right, please do.
Starting point is 01:12:35 You can only pick from teams seated one through five. Give me your top four fraud teams in the tournament. Frauds one through five. All right, let me see. Fraud implies that, that you should be good. It's different for beat upon. All right. Houston, Houston's my number one fraud.
Starting point is 01:12:53 They're 24 and three. Two of their losses were, one of their losses was the Wichita State. They, they lost to East Carolina, I believe. And they, they lost to Tulsa who, these are very bad losses. Houston, I don't know. I, Houston to me is what can people think in Zaga is.
Starting point is 01:13:12 That, that's what I would say. When you think of Gonzaga is playing nobody, racking up a bunch of wins, and then probably going to flame out early in the tournament, which is not Gonzaga anymore. That was Gonzaga 15 years ago. That's what Houston is now. I bet it might be good for Houston.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Maybe, maybe 15 years from now, they'll be as good as Gonzaga is now. I don't know. It won't shock you. I bet on Houston in that ECU game, they were minus 18. It was like, it was a random, it was like a three o'clock game on a Thursday. It's like, God, I bet it.
Starting point is 01:13:36 But you're right. And the good thing that Houston does is they kick the shit out of bad teams. Like that's, I think the, the Houston wins by 40. And you're like, wow, Houston's incredible. But I, okay. So what's your second one? So Houston, the, the one thing about Houston though,
Starting point is 01:13:51 I will say is they have a pretty, I like their draw in the sense of like West Virginia isn't, I liked the idea of West Virginia more than I actually like West Virginia. Cause it's, you hear that Bob Huggins as a team that can make shots and you're like, oh my God, that's unstoppable. But then they, they don't play great defense.
Starting point is 01:14:07 And they're kind of, they've been losing a lot of games. They should, Syracuse, San Diego, like that whole region. I like Houston going, I don't know. Houston might, might surprise me and go to the lead eight, but I don't think it's cause they're good. I still don't, I still won't think they're good. So are you taking face Houston fans? Are you, are you thinking Rutgers has a chance
Starting point is 01:14:24 in the second round? I actually do. Yeah. Rutgers, I'm betting on Rutgers. If Rutgers wins the second round game, I win a Bitcoin. Let me see who else is a fraud. We'll throw Houston out there. Choo, choo, choo, choo, to the,
Starting point is 01:14:39 Tennessee's been a little disappointing up and down. I think, I don't know if they're frauds, but like they coming into the season, I felt like they were good enough to maybe make a final four run and they've been just kind of bluff. They're often sucks. Yeah. Their offense is really bad. Their defense isn't, I mean, it's good,
Starting point is 01:14:55 but it's not like, it's not good enough to make up for how bad their offense is. They have potential. Tennessee's a team that like, you catch them on the right night, you're like, this team could be something, but then I don't know. Wait, so has this season completely swung the pendulum
Starting point is 01:15:09 where now it's like, if we're re-litigating the ChakaSmart, Rick Barnes situation, like if you're Texas, you'd rather have ChakaSmart now? Hmm, that's a great question. Would you rather have, oh, I think, I think in the end, you'd rather have ChakaSmart because it's just like, it was just one of the, the Rick Barnes tenure at Texas just got to a point
Starting point is 01:15:33 where I think that it was just stale. And it was like, we don't care if we have the exact same amount of success, we just want to look at a different face on the sideline. That's really where we've arrived as Texas fans. Related to that, that's what Chaka was for them. Relate to your sex life again, please. Missionary, it's all missionary all the time.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And you're like, you know what, I think we both like to look at somebody else, maybe look at the back of your head every now and again. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much all. Chaka's basically doing what, I mean, to be fair, I mean, Rick Barnes with the final four. So Chaka still has, he still has some work to do to catch what Rick Barnes did there.
Starting point is 01:16:05 But yeah, I don't, I don't know. I'm trying to think of other, other frauds. Iowa? Villanova's got to be up there just because they don't have Cal and Gillespie anymore. I don't, I don't, I don't trust Villanova without a point guard. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Iowa? Iowa's interesting. I think I, I think I believe in Iowa. Really? I think they're, they're playing better defense. I just want to believe in them. I think if you don't pay attention, you think Iowa is Luca Garza and a bunch
Starting point is 01:16:33 of slow white dudes that don't play defense and just can hit, shoot set shots. And it's kind of true, but not really anymore. Like they play D. I think Joe Wieskamp is going to be an NBA player. And he's, Joe Wieskamp is basically the next Duncan Robinson that everybody's going to look up and be like, where did this guy come from?
Starting point is 01:16:49 And everyone that's been paying attention knows that he does not miss. And he's like six, eight, and he's unbelievable. But I don't know, I could see Iowa going, they're not going to make the final four because they're in Gonzaga's region, but I could see Iowa making a lead eight for sure. I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:17:03 They are like a, you think like, oh, classic Iowa team. They're not playing any defense. They play a little bit better, but they still don't aren't great defensively. My problem is whenever Luca Garza and I, I don't know if there is that, well, USC would be that big guy and Mowgli going up against Luca Garza.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Like I think Mowgli would, would, would eat, eat him up. Yeah, he would, but I, but, but I think Garza, cause part of, part of Iowa's problems down the stretch and they're not even problems. I mean, you look at like who they're losing to, they're losing to Illinois and like Michigan and you know, they're losing to great teams. Garza is going to feast on big guys who aren't Kofi Covern
Starting point is 01:17:42 and Hunter Dickinson and like seven foot four and 300 pounds. And just like, they're just, they're just chest in each other all game. You know what I mean? Like he needs, he needs some, some undersized guys that he can, and I know, but Mowgli's skinny. So maybe that's good for Garza. Maybe he'll just throw his ass into him.
Starting point is 01:17:58 You could just say Micah Potter and Nate Revers. Go ahead. I know that's what you wanted to say right there. That's what I, it is. I mean, Ohio State, they killed, Iowa killed Ohio State and Columbus not too long ago. We don't have any big guys and Garza was, was killing us. So yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I do believe in Iowa and I understand why people won't want to, but I think they, it wouldn't surprise me if you looked up and like they are one of the last standing big 10 teams, even though they feel like they're a level or two below like the upper tier of the big 10, you know? So what about Michigan? You didn't mention Michigan under your fraud watch team, but all the talk has been about Alabama
Starting point is 01:18:36 or it's been about Texas. That's the Harry and Izzy's bracket, the Harry and Izzy's region. So with Michigan, like yeah, they're a little banged up, but they are still one team, but no one's talking about them. Yeah, Michigan. I think the reason no one's talking about Michigan, it would be Isaiah Livers, obviously,
Starting point is 01:18:53 we don't know if he's going to be, it doesn't seem like he's going to be able to play in the tournament, which really sucks. Also, I think the wind has kind of been taken out of Michigan sales the way they ended the season. They won the big 10. I am not putting an asterisk on the big 10, but at the same time, I'm going out of my way to say
Starting point is 01:19:12 I'm not putting an asterisk on the big 10 because Michigan won two fewer games in Illinois. They got their asses handed to them by Illinois, even when Livers was playing. They turn around and lose at Michigan State. So there were already some like warning signs that maybe Michigan had peaked a little too soon, or maybe they weren't quite as good,
Starting point is 01:19:30 because you know, there was a stretch during the season where people were talking about Michigan being better than Gonzaga. Like you'd see people on TV, they're like, is Michigan actually the best team in college basketball? And I was scratching my head like, I mean, Gonzaga is beating everybody by 20, so I would probably say until they don't beat teams by 20, they're probably still the best.
Starting point is 01:19:48 So Michigan's just kind of come back down to earth, and Illinois is kind of taking that mantle as like the hot, sexy big 10 team. So I think that's kind of what's going on there. I don't know. I don't know what to make of Michigan, because they still have a really good team. Even if Livers doesn't play a second this tournament, they're good enough to win a national title.
Starting point is 01:20:04 It's just, they're certainly not going to be the same team without them. So we're kind of waiting to see what they're going to look like without them. I think that's the problem, though. Livers is like, their ceiling is national title with Livers. Without them, it's a totally different. They're still a very good team. But like his ability to get shots,
Starting point is 01:20:22 and like he adds that element that every team needs. I just, I think they're a totally different team without them now. And he's a guy that like you're not necessarily keying on in your scouting report, because you're focused on Hunter Dickinson or you're focused on Franz Wagner. I mean, Livers, it's not to say he's not one
Starting point is 01:20:37 of the best players, obviously. But part of it is just like the trickle down effect of like when you have like five guys that can score, and then that gets put in suddenly, it's like four guys that can score. Now the defense can focus on, they have one less guy to worry about that you throw out there.
Starting point is 01:20:52 You're like Michigan's throwing out these other big dudes like, you know, Johns or Austin Davis or whatever might get more minutes. And stuff just starts shifting around. And then suddenly, cause like that, that would be a lot of Livers. Livers would get a ton of open looks just, and you just like knock down threes.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Cause you're focused so much on Hunter Dickinson. And now maybe the guy taking those shots is an Isaiah Livers and it's someone, you know, lower on the pecking order who's not as good. And that's where it really is going to matter. But I don't know, Michigan's still really good. And I wouldn't be surprised, but it's, I don't know. I gotta wait and see what happens in the first couple of games.
Starting point is 01:21:24 I got to, I got to, before I start talking myself back into Michigan. All right. So I've talked, I didn't really talk shit. I just kept on bumping Gonzaga down on my top 10 just to get people talking. I knew the whole time I was basically old take exposing myself because I know Gonzaga is by far and away the best team this year.
Starting point is 01:21:44 What is the like scenario where they do get knocked out? Cause I don't, I see them going to the final four. And I guess you could make the argument that in the final four, if there's all, if it's four really good teams, no like, you know, Cinderella. Yeah, of course anyone could beat anyone. You know, Iowa actually did play Gonzaga really well in that game and whatever it was December.
Starting point is 01:22:06 But what is the scenario where Gonzaga gets bounced? Or is it not, is there no scenario there? They're going to win it. I mean, I think they're not breaking a sweat to the elite. And even then they're probably going to play, you know, it looks like they're going to play Iowa or Kansas the way if the bracket stays true to form. They've already beat both of those teams,
Starting point is 01:22:25 beat them rather easily. I don't know, that doesn't always necessarily mean anything by the way. I mean, in 2016, I think it was, Oklahoma beat the hell out of Villanova early in the season. They did a rematch in the final four and Villanova beat the breaks off them. So who the hell knows, but the way Gonzaga loses,
Starting point is 01:22:44 I mean, I'm trying to think of ways they get tripped up. Creighton, maybe in the sweet 16, like it's just an up and down, you know, like they're both great offensively and Creighton, they just match shot for shot and Gonzaga is like, we're fine. And then they miss a couple of shots and Creighton, because Creighton has scores. Creighton can can can fill it up when they get hot.
Starting point is 01:23:04 So maybe, but that's not going to happen. They don't play, Gonzaga does let their foot off the gas defensively. They don't have necessarily a rim protector like Drutin. They don't have a guy that's like swatting shots. If you can penetrate on them, which is easier said than done, maybe that's it. But I don't know, man, they're good.
Starting point is 01:23:22 They're very good. And I am not a Gonzaga fan. I'm not like trying to stick my chest out and say like, this team's definitely going to go undefeated. I don't care. If they lose, it's not going to break my heart. I just feel like it's my duty to give people a PSA that if like, if you think Gonzaga is just like
Starting point is 01:23:36 every other Gonzaga team in your mind, you're moron. I do think that, yeah, like this is not 2006 Gonzaga. This isn't even 2013, 2017. This team would beat the 2017 team. That was two minutes away from a national title, by the way. This team would beat them by like 10, 15 probably, I think. Like they're so much better. They are so, so good.
Starting point is 01:23:55 They have four, they have, this is all you need to say. This is what you need. This is how you would phrase it. They had four guys that were top five at their position in the country this year. Before they're starting five, we're in the top, we're on the finalist list for their position in the country, in the entire country.
Starting point is 01:24:13 And I think two or three of them are gonna win their award. So it's disgusting. They're very good. I think it is Gonzaga versus the field. And every time I say that, people are, people like come back at me as though I'm a moron and they're like, yeah, but Kentucky lost.
Starting point is 01:24:27 And I'm like, yeah, I didn't say they're not gonna lose. Kentucky in 2015 lost. I didn't say Gonzaga's not gonna lose. I just... Yeah, I agree with you though. Gonzaga's, they're so much better than everyone. And they do have like their bracket, which you should do for the team
Starting point is 01:24:43 that is the number one overall seed, should have an easier bracket. The only team I would say that I'll throw out there, Kansas was playing really good basketball before they got shit down with COVID. Now they would meet Gonzaga in the lead eight. So it would be the unstoppable force versus the immovable object in Kansas
Starting point is 01:24:59 playing really good basketball, but Bill Self being in the lead eight, which means he will pee down his leg. But that would be the only team I could see. I mean, I guess I'm just shitting on Iowa here, whatever, old habits die hard. But I do think people forgot about Kansas and that they were playing a lot better down the stretch.
Starting point is 01:25:17 And then the COVID thing in the big 12 tournament kind of stole that from them. Yeah, Kansas also was victim to all the talk about the blue bloods sucking. And like, every time Kentucky would lose a game, it's like Kansas and North Carolina and everyone else would have to wear it. Cause everyone wanted to talk about
Starting point is 01:25:33 how bad the blue bloods are. And Kansas fans are like, no, hang on, we're not that bad. Right. Like we're not winning eight games this year. We're still a decent team. We're just not as good as we were last year. Yeah. In all honesty, Gonzaga,
Starting point is 01:25:46 I see them not even breaking a sweat. So I would not be surprised if Gonzaga even has, I mean, if this is 2018 Villanova all over again, I wouldn't be surprised at all. And again, I'm not telling everybody like, it's not bravado. That's just like, it's, I don't know. I, everyone's been wanting to make it interesting all season.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Every time a big 10 team wins three or four games in a row, we're like, this team could maybe challenge Gonzaga. I don't know. We'll see. And then they fall off a cliff and then a new big 10 team rises up. But yeah, they're awesome, man. So, but here's my question to you, Dan, as a big 10 guy, we are both big 10 guys.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Do you feel the pressure given how good the big 10 is this year? Because this feels like a season that Gonzaga has to win the national title or people will never shut up about it. Like they'll say you can never, you'll never win a national title if you don't win it this year. I feel like the same is true of the big 10 with how often everyone talked about how dominant the big 10 is. We have four teams in the top 10 at all times.
Starting point is 01:26:45 We had, and the whole tournament's taking place in big 10 country. We have to win the title too, right? Yeah. So I guess my answer to that would be, I do feel the pressure, but I also know at the end of the day, if the big 10 gets eliminated in a terrible fashion, I'll just go to my trusty tried true method of deflect and ignore. So I'll just figure out a way to spin it, deflect and ignore,
Starting point is 01:27:10 figure out, hey, Gonzaga, oh, you know what, here we go. They beat each other up all season. I got one right now. You, Gonzaga's best player, Jalen Suggs, right? Mm-hmm. Where's he from? Ooh, good point. Ha-ha, Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Great point. Big 10 country. Great point. There you go, I'm going to say this is, I do this for a living. Like this is, that's a big 10 win. If Gonzaga wins, that's a big 10 win. That's just Richard, Richard Petino's fault for not getting him. We can't be, Richard Petino's not in the big 10 anymore.
Starting point is 01:27:37 So we can't be held accountable for the fact that there was an incompetent coach that couldn't keep Jalen Suggs in state in the big 10. He wasn't big 10 strong. Exactly. So this is Richard Petino's fault. No one else. And guess what? We've already rid ourselves from Richard Petino.
Starting point is 01:27:51 He's at New Mexico now. So there is the spin zone. Boom. It's easy as that. That's a great point. I like that. I, it just feels inevitable to me that Gonzaga is going to be a big 10 team in the title game and I don't know what big 10 team it's going to be,
Starting point is 01:28:04 but Ohio State's on the right side of the bracket for that to happen. So I'm crossing my fingers, but that's just, that's what we do. We do it better in any conference in the country. No conference in the country is as good at losing title games as big 10. Yeah. You know what actually is going to happen? The real way it will happen is that Gonzaga beats Iowa in the elite eight, beats Michigan in the final four and beats Illinois in the championship.
Starting point is 01:28:22 And it's like a clean sweep of the big 10. And I'm sitting there like, I don't even like college basketball. What are you guys talking about with the NBA playoffs? I, Gonzaga, it's Gonzaga and three big 10 teams. Yeah. The final four and Gonzaga, doesn't it? Like Gonzaga wins both games by 20. I was like, damn it. So you said, you said they've got, they've got five or four players
Starting point is 01:28:43 are in the top five of their position. How many Mr. basketballs do they have? That's a great point too. How many Indiana, Mr. basketball, how many guys who grew up playing, how many guys won Indiana State high school basketball titles that. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I feel like everyone's a Mr. basketball. It's like saying somebody, oh, he was a Golden Gloves fighter. When you talk about it, everyone, everyone is also a number one recruit of some sort, because you could do number one recruit at your position, number one in your state, number one and whatever. And yeah, they go around and Mr. basketball. That's a good point. How do you, how does one record back? Yeah. How does one win Mr.
Starting point is 01:29:17 basketball? I know a few states have it. It's like Ohio has it. Indiana has it. There are a couple others too. Illinois has it. I don't know. I think you're just the best player in the state. I think that's pretty much it. Ready. You yeah. Ready for this. Jalen Suggs is looking up. He won Mr.
Starting point is 01:29:31 basketball and Mr. football. Yeah. Yeah. And and Richard Gino couldn't keep him in state. That's this is a big 10 title. This is the most big. He's a football player. He's the most big 10 player that's ever not played in the big 10. I'm now rooting for Gonzaga.
Starting point is 01:29:47 I am officially a Gonzaga fan because they are part of the big 10. Yeah. And also when Duke beat your beloved Wisconsin team in 2015, Titus Jones is from Minnesota. Lilo Kaphore is from Chicago. Yep. So there you go. That one counted for us. Yeah. And guess what? Spokane Washington being in the big 10 makes just as much sense
Starting point is 01:30:07 as fucking Rutgers like. So who cares. There is a good point. They're part of the big 10. That's a good point. Yeah. Go ahead. Just I want to get you on the record for a Wednesday night pick or for a Thursday night pick. It's a play in Mr.
Starting point is 01:30:22 playing the playing guru Mark Titus. Yeah. You know, you know, everything about the playing games. So that would be a good brand, right? Like if you were the guy that's you, that is that is that is an untapped that that's a freebie for Jake, maybe. Maybe March takes his brain and runs with it where he's like, I am Mr. playing and like he just goes all the way on like the fourth. And then he and then as soon as the playing games are over,
Starting point is 01:30:44 he wipes the sand. She's like, have fun everybody at the rest of the tournament. I'm out. How's your bracket? He has a playing he has a playing bracket on as well. He's the top of the naughty of playing my one seeds in the playing games. You're right. Yeah. But so, I mean, the big one is is oh, against Cronin. It's two big games, two big names, Michigan State, UCLA.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Give us your luck on the playing game. I like Michigan State. I UCLA is free falling. They were like they were pretty good a couple of months ago. And that's not a that's never something you want to say about a team in March. I think a lot like me and on Michigan State winning, especially because if I don't say Michigan State is going to win and they do win, I'll have it thrown back in my face.
Starting point is 01:31:26 So OK, UCLA fans don't care. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. They they UCLA's finished. I think they're on four game losing streak. They were ranked and then they just kind of fell off the face of the earth and they lost like yeah. So they've got bounced by Oregon State, who that one still is is shocking to me, shout out to Beves.
Starting point is 01:31:44 All right. Any other like sneaky teams that you got on circled or whatever to break down, help people fill out their bracket. Yeah, I like Ohio. Ohio is a team I believe in, but I'm very biased. The head coach at OU was was an assistant in Ohio State when I was there and he's awesome. And they have a they have a dude, Jason Preston, who's going to be the best player on the floor against Virginia.
Starting point is 01:32:09 I know Virginia is favored and Virginia. Yeah, I picked that as an upset, just I thought what the hell Virginia is coming off a COVID pause. And I think Ohio is going to have the best player on the floor in that game. So that's enough for me. And I love the head coach. So I I really like Ohio. I'm trying to think of who else I don't know what to do with Oklahoma State
Starting point is 01:32:28 because boy, it feels like the stars are aligning for something special that happened here with Kate Cunningham. I don't know how much you guys have watched this dude, but he is he is every bit as good as he was made out to be. I really enjoyed him. So I know they're a four seed, but that feels right. I mean, like what was Carmelo in 2003? Wasn't it weren't they like a three seed?
Starting point is 01:32:49 And when he took him to the title game, I can't remember, but I agree with you there, especially because that Tennessee, Oregon State game like those Oklahoma State should get to the sweet 16. Uh, uh, uh, Yukon is another one. I remember I came on the show before the season and you said pick a team that's not that's going to win. I try to stick and zag it. You said, come on, have some fun, pick someone that's not ranked.
Starting point is 01:33:11 And I said, we'll keep an eye on Yukon. It's kind of the stars are sort of aligning for Yukon as well. Um, I wanted them to win the biggest title. If they won the biggest title, I would have picked Yukon to win the national championship, I think, but, uh, Creighton, Creighton got the better of them. They had like three shots to tie the game at the end. They all missed, but I like Yukon. Yeah, I know that was, that was brutal.
Starting point is 01:33:30 I like Yukon's draw. I do like Alabama. That's not a slight against Alabama, but I like a matchup with, but, but Maryland is going to be tough in the first round for Yukon. So I don't know. Like I, I'm, I'm, I'm talking myself into Yukon still having a shot here as, as a dark horse. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:33:44 I'm, I'm all over the place. I really do. Like at the end of the day, I just come back to get zagged. I'm like, this is all, it's just a fun distraction to give Gonzaga trophy in three weeks. So if Gonzaga didn't exist, who would you pick? Ooh, if Gonzaga didn't exist, who would I, who would I pick? We could just keep doing this till we're done.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Can I say, can I say the winner? Can I say the winner of Illinois, Oklahoma State and the sweet 16? I would pick one of those two teams. Whoever wins that game, if, if Gonzaga is going to lose, I think whoever wins Illinois, Oklahoma State, I'm riding that in the sweet 16. Do you, let me ask you this about Illinois real quick. Cause I find myself like, you know, Billy, you have your hands on your pants. Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Okay. I literally just caught it in the corner of my eye. Billy was scratching his, he was scratching his penis. Um, like it's always tough cause when you play a big 10 scheduled, you know, you start to hate all the teams, but watching IO and Kofi Kobern play like they're, and I've always liked Brad Underwood, but IO is so much fun to watch. And I, I don't know. It's just, I, this isn't even a question.
Starting point is 01:34:43 It's just fun to watch. You find yourself being like, I don't hate them cause I, I think he's so much fun to watch. I know. Yeah. That, that was the most frustrating part. Ohio State losing the big 10 title game and over time, um, very heartbreaking loss, watching the Buckeyes blow it down the stretch. And I wasn't even really that mad because I was like, this is great for Illinois.
Starting point is 01:35:03 And also just Illinois, Illinois didn't win the big 10, but they felt like they should have the other season. So I was like, I, I can't even really be that mad. This team's pretty likable. The, I, I am a little worried though, big cat that like there, the, it feels almost they, this has happened all season with the big 10 teams that happened to Ohio state. It happened to Michigan. It happened to Wisconsin when you guys beat Louisville.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I feel like Iowa had their moment where like, where suddenly you look up and you're like, Oh my God, we are, we might be the best team in the country right now. Like we, we play in the best conference. We're kicking everyone's ass. We are so good. And then every single one of them falls back down to earth. And that's what I'm worried about. Illinois is like, you don't want to be feeling yourself too much.
Starting point is 01:35:43 And I don't know. I don't know. Because that, that, that's, that's bitten every other like it's, it's ruined all of it. I'm worried about a big 10 bubble too. I'm worried that like all these teams in the big 10 just like beat each other and we're convinced that they're all like really good. And I, I don't know. The bar has been set so high for the big 10.
Starting point is 01:36:01 I don't know how we're going to top it. We have to basically get three teams in the final four to for, or else everyone's going to say you guys were overrated. Just, just follow my lead. I'll be the lead blocker. I'll come out with spin zone. But I like that answer. The winner of Illinois, Oklahoma state would win if you eliminated Gonzaga.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I like that answer. Yeah. I also feel like if your state touches a big 10 state, then that should count as well. Because in theory, you are a target school. You could play in the big 10. Right. You're a breeding ground. You're a breeding ground.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Yeah. Exactly. You're your big 10 adjacent. You're a large 10. Who, who do you guys, you guys fill out your brackets? Who do you get? Uh, I probably will take Gonzaga to, oh, Gonzaga's going to win it all. I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Like I don't, I just, I think they are that good. And I do see like flaws in all the other teams. Like we haven't even talked about Baylor and Baylor, they, they, they're a different team after COVID than they were before. And I don't know if they can like find what they had before COVID. So that's a big question mark to me. I would say, ooh, I like Illinois, but I, I'm just taking Illinois because I want to have something different, not Gonzaga in the final.
Starting point is 01:37:06 Because that would be different. I don't have any confidence in my picks, like in the, in the first and second rounds, being that much better than everybody else's picks. So I'll just be able to take Gonzaga and talk the rest of the way. I also just like, if there's, if there's a dominant big guy, I can talk myself into like, if that guy brings his A game every single game, he can't be stopped. And that's, that's what Coburn is. That sounds like a, that sounds like a Ravel tweet of like analytics of like,
Starting point is 01:37:30 actually you're better off not picking the team that everyone else is going to pick. Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that. It's true. No, that is, don't say that. I mean, that's, it's basically what we've been saying the whole time, which is Gonzaga,
Starting point is 01:37:40 we all think Gonzaga is going to win. Yeah. But I, I'm actually, I'm saying, I know that I suck at picking the earlier games. So I'm just going to, I want to bet on something different. I'll put it this way. How about the, the value is better for Illinois. It's, they're like plus 700 to win the tournament. So I want to make more money that way.
Starting point is 01:37:56 Here's the real question. So first game, I believe tips off at noon, 15 on, on Friday. So 12, 15 Eastern, I believe. So over under a three 30 that you fire off the, well, there goes my bracket tweet. I already did it. I already did it right when they announced bracket. I'm already done. I got it out of the way.
Starting point is 01:38:19 You got to get out of the way right away. That's the way to do it. All right. I have, I have one last question for you, Mark, because we, I can't believe we didn't even throw this out there. I actually have a team. Oh, it's the rowback question. Thank you, Liam.
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Starting point is 01:38:52 You have to come to New York to get it, but it is here for you. We're going to put it in a little cubby and says, Mark Titus, do not touch. So you got that. It's good. You're going to, you're going to put it next to the, the PMT shirt that I asked you for. That's on the way. That's on the way. Don't worry about that.
Starting point is 01:39:09 That's still on the map. Okay. I can't believe we didn't throw this out. I have a dark horse. I have a dark horse team that I want to throw out there because they are technically, you know, the Ken Palm has become the most popular guy in the world. Everyone is on that site. You know, it doesn't feel like 10 years ago, like, oh, I know Ken Palm.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Purdue does technically rank top 25 in offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency. They have those two tall guys. They basically build them in a fucking factory where it's like every year they just have a new seven footer who's lanky and frustrates everyone's. Uh, Purdue is like, I don't know. I mean, we shit on Purdue. Both of us shit on Purdue a lot, but Purdue. Purdue is a great sleeper pick.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Purdue, uh, they, they, uh, I mean, you, you saw, if you watch the Ohio State game in the big 10 tournament, the last game that Purdue played, uh, they're down 18 and a half time. They, they don't give up. They, they claw back into games. Like they, um, they're very young and they're, they're, they're so young. They almost like don't understand when you're out, when you're supposed to fold, you know, like you, you have no chance of winning this game. So stop playing, please.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Like they're like, no, we're just going to keep playing hard and look up and maybe it'll be close in the end. Uh, Treyvion Williams is awesome. He's, he's a great big dude. Uh, he's, he, they have shooters. They have, they have guys that can go one on one. Uh, Ivy was great. He's, he's, he's a guy you can just throw the ball to and he's like, all right, I'll go get a bucket.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Um, and, and Matt Painter, it's weird because like Matt Painter for a long time was a guy that like you didn't trust in the tournament and it's always interesting when, uh, narratives kind of flip on their head. Now, like people, I like Matt Painter is like the second best coach behind Izzo probably in the big 10, you know, and you know what it is. Yeah. He basically won like a half a national title by playing Virginia, the toughest when they won a national title.
Starting point is 01:40:58 They have that banner actually in Macchi Arena that says we played Virginia the toughest. That, no, that's seriously, that seriously counts. Like I think that like Bo Ryan was like, I feel like people started respecting Bo Ryan when he played that Sean May UNC team in the elite eight, right? Better than anyone else. And everyone's like, oh, look at Bo Ryan. So like a close loss can do something for your, for your street cred. I also think he's got less sweaty over the years.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Matt Painter used to be one of like a top five college basketball sweat guy, like the old school Gary Williams type. And now I somehow, I don't know if I don't want to say it's like a Prince Andrews-ish, but he stopped sweating. He doesn't sweat anymore. And you look more presentable and people, I think, put more thought in you. He also, we should make the note that the whole tournament's taking place in Indiana. So I don't know what kind of advantage Purdue's going to have there.
Starting point is 01:41:44 You have to think that the fans, whatever fans they allow in the building, Purdue's going to tip the scales in their favor. They got, they got, they're going to probably play Baylor in the sweet 16. As you said, Dan Baylor has been a dominant team for most of the season, but since they've come back, their defense hasn't been awesome. So who knows what that's going to look like. Purdue's a good pick. Purdue's a good sleeper pick, I think.
Starting point is 01:42:04 It's also, we're at the point now, we're taping this on Tuesday, but we, you basically spend all week just trying to find like, ooh, what's the team? And you just outthink yourself. It's like going back to the Gonzaga pick. Like you don't have to find some crazy upset. Maybe it's just Gonzaga's really, really good. Maybe the big 10 is really, really good, which I have my doubts as well. But like sometimes, you know, it's a weird season, but you just go with what,
Starting point is 01:42:30 the teams that have been consistent all year. Yeah. Alabama, we didn't talk much about Alabama. And I said, Yukon, Yukon has a chance to get to Alabama. And I like Yukon and all that, but Alabama is good enough to win a national title. And I, you know, I think Alabama fans know that, but they have the formula as well. They, they shoot basically nothing but threes in layups and they play unbelievable defense. And you add all that up and that's pretty good too.
Starting point is 01:42:52 So I wanted to shout out Alabama. I didn't, I didn't talk about them enough, but I think that's it. I think, I think we hit the national champion somewhere in there. I think we threw a wide net. We talked about almost every team. Arkansas. I think we could clip it up. When all those other teams come at our necks, we can at least find the one clip where we're like,
Starting point is 01:43:07 I like this team. And then we tweet that out and we say, suck it haters. Yeah. You know, I would like to see that a team that wins actually like take a clip of us talking about them be like, thank you, pardon my take. And Mark. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:19 You inspire us. Thank you for believing in us. Yes. Yeah. Arkansas. We gotta say Arkansas. Arkansas. Arkansas.
Starting point is 01:43:23 Just throw that out there. They're my sleeper team. Yeah. And also, uh, Kansas. Let's just say the names. Roku, Texas. I truly believe in West Virginia. Yup.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Oklahoma State. You know, Texas Tech. We're not even going to say. Guys, do not be shocked. Do not be shocked if Syracuse puts it all together and wins a few games. Uh-huh. Makes it the best second weekend. Yup.
Starting point is 01:43:47 I like that. I think, I think BYU can do it. Yeah. Totally. I've long been a believer in coach Izzo as well. BYU has, uh, one of the old Purdue guys, Matt Harms. That's right. It was fucking annoying as shit.
Starting point is 01:44:00 And they just rescheduled him so they don't have to play a game on Sunday. There it is. That's a big momentum for him. I don't, I don't think BYU, I don't think a big essay in BYU has that guy who's fucking annoying as shit is going to make it into BYU. Yeah. Fuck. I forgot what we were doing.
Starting point is 01:44:13 I literally just got triggered by, by big Purdue guys and I couldn't, I couldn't stick to the script. I think Georgetown, you know, they got, they got the pedigree. Yes. That's right. They're hot. That's right. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Um, all right. Well, hey, before I go, uh, Billy, I want to shout, shout out Billy. Uh, I know this is old news in your guys's world, but, uh, I, I, for, for kicking Jose's ass, I bought the fight. I watched the whole fight all 10 seconds of it. And, um, I don't know. I, I, I, I want to admit that I bought the fight just to watch Billy die. And, uh, I just want to eat my words and tip my cap to Billy and say,
Starting point is 01:44:45 But this is perfect because Billy and true Billy form just walked out of the room with no explanation. That's so good. That's so good. We're going to cut this part out. So he actually, he won't listen yet. This is, he won't listen. He won't listen.
Starting point is 01:44:57 He won't have no idea when Billy gets a genuine compliment. He's not here to, to receive it. I, I literally only bought the fight because of Billy. Like I just wanted to see whether he died. I was like, I'm curious to see if this kid can, can go at all. And then, uh, it's like his dad turning back to Billy. I never tell you this, but I love you son. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Incredible. Anyway. All right. Well, thank you, Mark. We appreciate it. Tyson take, go listen to it. They go into depth about everything in college basketball. Great time to listen.
Starting point is 01:45:24 They do everything. So you can listen to it. I wanted to, I wanted to plug something else before I go. I'm hosting this three X three year tournament at the, at the, at the, at the final four. And I'm not doing this because I want to plug it just because like, I genuinely think it's awesome and it's fun. And I think people should watch it. So you've gone, Dan, you've seen it.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. All people do is Jack threes or try to dunk on each other. And I'm, and I'm hosting that again this year. And they, they, I don't know. I wanted, I wanted to plug that because I think people would enjoy watching that. So there you go. That's coming up in a few weeks.
Starting point is 01:45:55 And it's one last time to see your favorite college players. Ethan Hap was in it two years ago. Yeah. Yeah. So it is a good time. Yeah. Anyway. Um, all right.
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Starting point is 01:47:29 OK, let's wrap up the show. We got FAQs. I misspoke at the beginning. I said guys on chicks. Let's just pretend these are all from girls. Yeah, let's pretend these are all from girls. I also like the idea sometimes when we do something in the show where we say we're going to do this today
Starting point is 01:47:43 and then we just don't do it. And I imagine there's just one guy who's listening, who's super high and just sits there staring at his phone like he said guys on chicks and there's no guys on chicks. Those are the lost tapes. He like tries to fast forward to the ending. And actually studies have shown that if you make a list of stuff to do at the beginning of your day,
Starting point is 01:48:01 it's better for your mind, even if you don't do all of it. So yeah, we might say that we're going to do stuff sometime. That's just for our own mental health. Yes. OK. Hank. Why is Big Cat so bad at gambling? And when is he going to talk himself into Wisconsin making a run
Starting point is 01:48:15 only to get crushed? OK. First, I'll do the second question first. I have talked myself into Wisconsin making a run. I actually did that this morning, taping this on Tuesday night. I did that this morning. I said to myself, you know what? Roy Williams, like, he's not a good coach.
Starting point is 01:48:31 They're going to fucking turn the ball over. They're going to win. They're going to hit their jump shots. So I've done that. Yeah, I'm bad at gambling. What do you want me to say? Everyone's bad at gambling. You're supposed to do it for entertainment, 1-800 game,
Starting point is 01:48:40 but if you have a problem, I don't know. You know, I'll say this about Big Cat. He's bad at gambling. Yeah. You know, some people out there like Big Cat really stinks at gambling. And you know what? They're right. But he's responsibly bad at gambling.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Yeah. And I never give up. You are the worst responsible gambler that I know. I'm fine with that. Here's the thing. I think it's way worse to be bad at gambling and pretend you're good. That's like a terrible person to be. Then I just tell it how it is.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Like, maybe every once in a while I'll get hot and I'll tell you I'm hot, but we all know where this is going to end up. It's going to be me losing. But guess what? I have fun. I enjoy it. It's my number one hobby in life. I love it.
Starting point is 01:49:19 I'll never stop doing it. I fucking love it. That's it. I would say the gambling, telling people your records, it's a lot like height size. So even if a guy can be six foot seven, and the program will always say six, eight or six, nine on it. If a guy is like, the guys you got to watch out for
Starting point is 01:49:35 are the ones who are like five foot eight, and then they tell everybody that they're five foot 10. It's like, that's a red flag. Now, you on the other hand, you're like, yeah, if I were to extrapolate to height, you're like, I'm five eight, but in reality, you're five seven. Right. Which is a great person.
Starting point is 01:49:49 I'm like more like four 11. Yeah. I also, just as a clue to everyone, because I do think people will sometimes be like, oh, I found this guy is really hot. The people who are really good at gambling, they don't talk about it. They don't exist out in the open.
Starting point is 01:50:05 So just know that when you get into it. If you're telling my picks, I'm not good, and at least I'm honest about that. Have you considered moving the PMT studio to another location, i.e. Miami or another spot where the cost of living every day aren't so ridiculously high? I know there's a lot going on at the main studio in New York City as far as the content,
Starting point is 01:50:25 but the pandemic has shown you guys can still push out content regardless. Could be cool to have a secondary Barça location somewhere warm. Maybe in, I did not write that question. Maybe in Situate, Massachusetts. Yeah, you wrote that question. Have you considered moving in?
Starting point is 01:50:37 It's cold there. The answer is yes. In fact, I was just having this conversation the other day where if we were smart at the start of the COVID situation, this year would have been perfect for us to just not be in New York City for like an entire calendar year. But we were like, who knows?
Starting point is 01:50:52 Like we didn't know that we were going to be out of the office until August or September, however long it was. So yes, I think about it every single day of my life. I also have a child. Yes. So I can't just like get out and move for the COVID thing. Like, hey, let's just go to Miami and bro out.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Would be tough. Well, we could, you could Skype in to me and Hank. Okay, got it. Yeah. Got it. I thank you. Why and how did Big Cat start clapping to begin every show slash interview?
Starting point is 01:51:17 That was actually rundown. Yeah. Because Hank used to make me clap on the rundown and then I, for some reason in my head, it's like Pavlov's dogs where I can't start taping anything until I clap. And it's Hank told me, he broke my heart like three years ago. He's like, you don't need to do that, but I still do it.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Right. Sometimes they'll come out with the slate and we're filming something. They'll slate it and then the guy will walk off and I'll clap right and I'll fucking steal his job. Yeah. That was it. It was a rod corp thing.
Starting point is 01:51:42 It was like, we do the slate and then make it real good. And then you're like, all right, three, two, one, clap. Yeah. I just, I have to clap. I don't know. Something's wrong with me. Hey guys, hope PFT's foot is all better. What's the worst injury anyone in the show
Starting point is 01:51:56 has suffered in the pursuit of content? In the pursuit of content. Buckle septum. I think Liam was coming to work when he broke his foot. Yeah. Allegedly got hit by a car. Yeah, he ran. I think Liam ran into the car.
Starting point is 01:52:09 I don't think the car hit him. You should see the car. Yeah. Billy almost died in the ring. Thank God he survived. That's true. I've, it's actually really tough when you get a paper cut and you have to blog and you have to type.
Starting point is 01:52:22 That's happened to me a few times. I did break a rib at Demolition Derby back in the day. What? Yeah. What you did? Yes, I did. I had a fucking broken rib. What?
Starting point is 01:52:31 That's why I'm a rib expert, bro. I don't remember that. I remember that because I had a broken rib. I broke it. Might have been very badly bruised. You remember Grit Week? Like in California? You know when you nut tapped me?
Starting point is 01:52:44 Yeah, that. No, no. He broke my balls. That was not California. That was Indy. That's how they found. This was on the beach. I tried to do the worm on the beach and I broke my rib.
Starting point is 01:52:52 You did. You did hurt yourself very badly. I broke, no. I literally, I went to the hospital. Yes. They X-rayed me. I actually had a fractured rib trying to do the worm on the beach because I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Jesus. I had never done the worm before so I was like, fuck, it looks easy. I'll try. I didn't know that you land like on your legs and then you ease your way down to your chest. I just did a swan dive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Into the hard sand. I think I'm probably the only person that's broke a rib doing yoga. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. Sup fellas, question for PFT. Is your vision fucked up from wearing sunglasses all the time?
Starting point is 01:53:27 Yeah, absolutely. 100%. That's, and I can blame everything wrong that I do on my bad vision too. So like, if I suck at Warzone, yeah. My eyes suck because they're shielded from light all the time. But yeah, absolutely. When I take my glasses off after a show is over,
Starting point is 01:53:42 I'm pretty much walking around like I'm blind. Do you ever worry that our ears too, like I've talked to people in the industry and they're like, yeah, my hearing is shot because I've just had headphones on for, I never thought of that. But we're probably fucking that regard too. That sounds like it's soft to me.
Starting point is 01:54:01 That sounds like it's soft. Oh, all right, well then I'll name the names, Scott Pimpel. Yeah, that's soft, Scott. Scott doesn't even really wear earphones all the time. Well, he did. He used to. He used to do radio. Two hours a day, three hours a day.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That might be, how old is he? When's his birthday? His 72. Yeah, his birthday was last week, right? His 72, yeah, 72.
Starting point is 01:54:17 He was born in 1919. How did the joke of PFT being in his 20s start? Because you're in a midlife crisis. I'm not actually in a midlife crisis, but I don't feel like I'm 36. So when I turned 35, I was like, hey, no big deal. I'm 35. But then for some reason, when I saw the six,
Starting point is 01:54:38 I was just like, that's late 30s. That's old. And I don't feel old. It started with Kevin Sifansky when we were saying he was 38. And I was like, that's old. And I was like, dude, we're 36. And they're like, well, I don't feel 36. Yeah, I honestly, I feel like I'm 28.
Starting point is 01:54:55 I really do. Honestly, I feel I'm 28. I'm going to let you work through it. I'm 28. When you said the beach house a couple weeks ago, and you're like, I can't wait to lose my credit card at a bar again. Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:05 That's not something you should be doing at 36. L-I-V-I-N. Remember? I'm still living, baby. Absolutely. Listen, you can be big, neg, captive all you want. I'm going to be having a beach house. I'm going to be tearing up this summer.
Starting point is 01:55:17 I'm not being negative. I'm letting you go through it. I'm not putting a shirt on for the entire month of July. I didn't say I didn't. You're going to be able to grate cheese on my belly. I didn't say anything. I would take a TRT. I'm cool with you working in the XFL next year.
Starting point is 01:55:29 When you wanted to wear a cowboy hat, I was like, do it. I didn't say a word after that. No, no, no. Wait. I did not say what I. You were an anti-cowboy hat. Yeah. And then I said to you, I won't say a word.
Starting point is 01:55:38 And I did not say a single word every day when you came in the studio and then put on your cowboy hat and then took it off and then put it back on. I got tons of toppings left. I didn't say a fucking word. I did not. I'm going to let you work through whatever you've got to work through.
Starting point is 01:55:51 Who schedules the interviews and how do you constantly have three solid interviews lined up week after week? Joe Kelly and Peggy. Wow. Hank went straight for Peggy. We're going to Kelly and Peggy. Kelly's going to put out her own old takes exposed on Hank. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Peggy, Kelly, great guest booker. It actually is the easiest part of our show or the part that's gotten easiest over the course of the last five years. Because we used to book every single guest herself. And then people will be like, why are these guys texting me again? Especially at the start.
Starting point is 01:56:19 We still do something. I mean, like, yeah, we still do. Probably like 75, 25. Yeah. Um, can you guys do an episode or at least an extended segment where you all pretend to be, slash, mimic each other? Like, Big Cat would be Billy. Billy would be Jake.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Jake would be PFT. PFT be Hank. And Hank be Big Cat. Something along those lines where you did the Spongebob table read or Breaking Bad scene read with all the voices. How does that go again? Big Cat would be Billy. Billy would be Jake.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Jake would be PFT. PFT be Hank. Hank be Big Cat. OK. Ready, go. Hey, guys. Wait, what? Will you Jake?
Starting point is 01:56:57 Oh, god. Wait, who are you? I just shit myself, but I'm going to blame it on PFT. Wait, who's Billy? Who's Billy? He's Jake. Oh, my god. That was, wow.
Starting point is 01:57:08 That was really mean. I don't know how to do Jake. Bro, like, literally? Like, literally, I was in war mode. I suck at video games and my dog always has a boner. All right, let's go to the next question. Wait, this is a quick way for us to all hate each other. This next question is brought to you by Stool Streams.
Starting point is 01:57:26 This is a quick way to hate each other. Speaking of which, you should download the Play Bar. Yeah, let's do it. Do it. Hey, Big Daddy Cat, P.F. Squee and Honk. Before every game retired NBA shooting guard Jason Terry, this is too much information. He would sleep in his opponent's shorts.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Alex Vovechkin in the Washington Capitol said that he reportedly likes to try and have sex before and after every game. Jason John used to try and break hitting slumps by wearing a golden thong to games. What pre or post show rituals do you all have that AWOLs may not be aware of? The cookie.
Starting point is 01:57:55 We slap each other in the face like Marshall Henderson. And then stand the hallway and just hit me harder. Right as we finish. So we finish, it varies because sometimes when it's like super late, we won't do it. But we all get together and we just do one quick kiss right in the middle. So it's like a six way, it's gotten harder
Starting point is 01:58:12 because it's six of us now. So it's just a quick mwah. And then we kiss and we say, see you guys tomorrow. Yep, later buddies. We used to play light as a feather stiff as a board before the show too. That was fun. Those were the days.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Trust falls every day. We go on. Yeah, we go on a two week vacation every year together. Don't even say the V word. What are those? What's the deal with those camps? Like how come every business in America is like, you know what's going to make my salespeople better?
Starting point is 01:58:41 I'm going to have them go take a zip line. I think it's really they just they want to give everyone. It's what's the old Rome thing? Feed them. What is it? Bread and circus. It's bread and circus. Yeah, they basically are like, we'll just feed them
Starting point is 01:58:56 and fucking throw free drinks at their ass. Have them do a couple of games and they'll be like, wow, this job's really sick. You know what's a great thing for your PR organizations? Just strap them into a belay for three hours. Once a year. Uh, last one. Two parter.
Starting point is 01:59:09 What is PFT's hair routine and will he ever cut it? And will big cat ever have any of the PMT crew babysit little cat? They can. Really? Yeah, billion. Maybe not. Billy. What's the order?
Starting point is 01:59:22 Power Inc. Yeah. PFT won. No, Jake might be one. Yeah. Jake, actually, you agree. Yeah, I agree. Great.
Starting point is 01:59:29 I know. I know. I know CPR. That's. Jake is one. PFT's two. Hank is three. But I was thinking about it, but Hank is definitely three.
Starting point is 01:59:40 I know CPR. Then there's a big drop off to Bubba who still can't stop getting hit by cars. Then there's a huge drop off to Billy. I'm the only one who could save his life. Billy, you would have my son getting fucked by a chicken in like 20 minutes. True or false? Character building.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Yeah, right. Exactly. Uh, what was the other part of my hair routine and will you ever cut it? I will cut it. I need to. So I've actually fallen into a little bit of a rut here because it used to be when Danny Woodhead wins a Super Bowl, I'll cut the hair. But then Danny is unfortunately sadly no longer the NFL.
Starting point is 02:00:14 And I've been searching for the next Danny. Danny said Quentin Nelson. But that didn't really catch on for me because I got it. I'm not a big Quentin Nelson guy. I got it. I got it. USA wins the World Cup. Ryan Fitzpatrick starts a playoff game.
Starting point is 02:00:28 No, that's wins a playoff. No, it starts a playoff. No wins wins a playoff game. If Ryan's ever been to the playoffs. If Ryan Fitzpatrick wins a playoff game, I will cut my hair. How short? Like shoulder. Bobble.
Starting point is 02:00:39 No, you can do shoulder or ear. Yeah, lower than don't it would be weird if you went like actual like full cut. Yeah, like shoulder, shoulder. And my hair care routine is like I wash it every couple of days. Yeah, shoulder. Yeah. That's about it.
Starting point is 02:00:52 I like that. Ryan Fitzpatrick wins a playoff game for the football team. No, I think it's, I think it's, I think you get it. This probably is last year. Yeah, but you get it forever. Ryan Fitzpatrick. You never say never with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I'll say it with my chest.
Starting point is 02:01:04 When Ryan Fitzpatrick wins a playoff game, I will cut my hair. I love it. I love it. Now we're all Ryan Fitzpatrick. Well, actually, you know, I kind of like your long hair though. I don't know. Is that weird to say? I like your hair, bro.
Starting point is 02:01:15 We have a look together. Yeah, I like your hair. You're an Antifa. And I look like I'm at Woodstock. And Hank can never shave his beard again. Facts. Is that it? Seahorses are the only fish with necks.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Depending on what you think about EOS. 27, 27. Fuck. I gotta keep like that. 55. It's still. I love that qualification. Because I do think about EOS a lot.
Starting point is 02:01:45 All the time. Well, it's like it's the only. I'm never not thinking about EOS. Where's the body starting? The neck. It's like how if a dog wore pants, like if you were to cut off an EOS head on a guillotine, where would it go? Two things I think about the most in life for Ludor and EOS.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Love you guys. I'll sit at the ends, but I'll be stolen away. Slowly learning that life is okay. Stay out of the way. It's not better to be safe than sorry. Stay on me. Stay with me. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:03:04 I'll be gone. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you.
Starting point is 02:03:26 And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. And I'll get you. Oh, the thing that you say is enough for just to blame on worries away.
Starting point is 02:03:48 All the things I've got to remember to shine in the way. I'll be coming for you now anyway. Stay with me. Stay with me. Oh, no. I'll be gone.

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