Pardon My Take - NCAA Tournament With Mark Titus, Aaron Donald Retires, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + #MadOnline

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

We’re 24 hours from the best 2 sports day of the year and we get off track with a wild Microsoft excel story. Aaron Donald retired and Anthony Edwards took a soul (00:00:00-00:20:18). We recap the f...inal 2 episodes of the Dynasty documentary (00:20:18-00:33:25). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Jim Harbaugh’s garage sale (00:33:25-00:48:38). Mark Titus joins us to break down the brackets, upsets, final four and storylines throughout the tourney plus useful tips when you’re doing your office pool (00:48:38-01:49:35). We finish with #MadOnline (01:49:35-02:00:22).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have our good friend Mark Titus on to break down the entire bracket. We've had a couple nights to sleep on it, figure out where we're going with our picks, storylines, everything to get you ready for Thursday morning, one of the best days of the year. We are going to do Hot Seat Cool Throne. We are doing Hashtag Matt Online, correct, Hank? Yep. Also, I finished the Patriots documentary.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I don't know if you guys did. I did. Maybe do some cherry on top, because holy shit, did they really take down Bellagio. Yeah, the last two episodes were, they were some- Woo, woo. ... abomination. Yeah, so we'll talk about all of that and some more tournament thoughts before we do
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Starting point is 00:03:32 Okay, let's go. Now in the street there is violence And then there's lots of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't play all on the sun, oh no We're gonna rock it down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock it down to Electric Avenue It's Part of My Take presented by Partial Sports. Welcome to Part of My Take presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. New customers can bet five bucks to get $150 instantly in bonus bets only at DraftKings Sportsbook with code TAKE. Today is Wednesday, March 20th and we are just 24 hours away from the best two days of the year. Boys, I don't
Starting point is 00:04:34 know if you guys feel the same way, but Monday night I crawled into bed and my body was craving college basketball. It was like I had been, you know, all of Conference Championship Week. I've been watching all this basketball and then they just shut it off. And I was like, give me college basketball. I need more college basketball. Big news today also. The start of spring. Yeah. We made it. Shout out that groundhog. Wait, is it? Yeah, that little motherfucker was right. I thought it was the 21st. 20th. Oh shit. 21st day of spring. Hank was right. The calendar. We're done with winter. The calendar is so stupid. The start of spring is is is St. Patrick's Day. It's there should be there should be sports that go along with
Starting point is 00:05:13 the changing of the season. It's St. Patrick's Day is start of spring. Start of summer is Kentucky Derby Day. Start of fall is a week zero college football. Start of winter is... Halloween. Christmas. Oh, no Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving should be started. No, I like to pretend that winter doesn't, you shorten winter.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Winter's just Christmas, it's the St. Patrick's Day. You're like, ah, it's two months. But when you have the score bugs on TV and it's the cornucopia and all that stuff, that is a little bit of both autumn and winter. We made it to spring. Spring has sprung. Good job boys. How are you guys feeling when we're 24 hours out from the best two days of the year?
Starting point is 00:05:50 I'm feeling good. Do you agree that it's the best two days of the year? Best two sports days of the year? Yes, I would agree. Thursday, Friday of the NCAA tournament because it's just all you think about the entire time. It's when you wake up, you start making your preparations. You take one last look at your bracket, you go, you sit down on a couch and you don't move for basically 48 hours. Yeah. And it's, I know that there will always be a random, it'll be a random day, weekend in the fall where you have like an insane NFL slate and an insane college football slate, but you can't depend on that. That's, that's year to year. Like what, you know, if all the stars align, this is just it.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I think underrated the second most, the second best is the two weeks of the first round of NBA and NHL playoffs, or every night there's a game that matters. Okay, I agree with that. But if it's the first two rounds of the NBA playoffs, there's a there's a lot of blowouts. Yeah. A lot of blowouts. But you have NHL. You do have NHL as well. You have NHL.
Starting point is 00:06:48 They should, you know, we spend a lot of time talking about how the Monday after the Super Bowl should be a national holiday. Thursday and Friday should have Thanksgiving rules. Absolutely. I'm sitting, like, people pretend to work on Thursday and Friday, which, actually, you know what? I'm talking myself out of it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I think the holiday of this Thursday and Friday is that you get paid for going to work, but you just don't work. You don't. It's an unspoken holiday. Shout out the boss button. Remember when they nailed the boss button in like 2006 or something or seven and there's like, yeah, you can click on it and has Excel pop up. Yeah. I hit that one time I think it was my professor was like, why are you looking at a spreadsheet? Yeah, my this is an English lit class. Yeah. My, my first job there. I remember there's like, you't use Excel. Yeah, ever seen the XL Olympics? Yeah, they're sick. People are, they're basically like musicians.
Starting point is 00:07:49 No keyboard. Yeah. They just use a mouse. No, no, no mouse. No mouse. Just keyboard. They're like piano players. The speed that they go.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Oh, I actually saw it. Oh man. Since we're down this rabbit hole, fuck. I got to try to find it. It was a Monday reading that I saw that was probably the most diabolical thing I've ever seen. Someone fill in while I find it. Oh, okay. Got it. Someone in IT trolled me for over a decade. Have I any recourse? I work in a medium sized firm between 2014 and January 2024. I found myself constantly making mistakes while working. Some examples are my calculations on Microsoft Excel
Starting point is 00:08:26 being wrong, data inputs on spreadsheets being wrong, booking the wrong days of my annual leave by accident. I booked the first through the 10th October, but suddenly found I had booked third to 13th October impacting the business negatively. Typos and documents that I had sent, counts was cunts. I felt like I was going crazy,
Starting point is 00:08:44 so I would do things like screenshot what I had calculated, Counts was cunts. I felt like I was going crazy so I would do things like screenshot what I had calculated but found my screenshots had disappeared when I logged in the next day. So I was wondering if I ever took them in my first place. In February 2024 our IT guy, we'll call him Bob, left us after facing a disciplinary and we hired another one. The new IT guy over the next two weeks approached me and showed me a series of records. Bob had been accessing my system, editing my work, and changing the information I had put into my annual leave sheet, among other things. The man has been sabotaging my work life for a decade.
Starting point is 00:09:18 The consequences I have faced are, I don't mean to laugh, but it's funny. I was not allowed to work from home like my colleagues due to my apparent unreliability. This resulted in $250 in transfer costs every month. I've been overlooked for promotion. I've had my professional life and credibility massively damaged. I had to undergo assessments for ADHD and early onset Alzheimer's and other cognitive tests with the NHS. I was put on a performative improvement plan. Shout out memes. Pip, the old IT guy has moved out of the UK, but is there anything I can do? I spoke with HR and they issued an apology, allowed me to work from home again and remove my pay.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But how crazy is that? So my take is I would hire Bob in a heartbeat. Holy. To me, Bob sounds like a guy that he gets shit done. He's vengeful. I actually, I look at this as a negative on the dude that wrote this post How many years? Ten. Ten years and all your shit's getting fucked with all the time You couldn't figure it out?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Like Bob, I would like to have Bob at my company to see how dumb people are. Is this like a fight club situation? I mean, it's crazy. It's like a evil if Jim Halbert was like the most evil person ever and he did all his pranks to Dwight that ruined his life. I was thinking the same thing Hank, it could be like me, myself and Irene. This guy's got split personalities. Spoiler if you haven't seen the end of me, myself and Irene, our fight club. But it might be this dude. What's in the box? He might go home, it was his wife's head, he might go home and then he just fucks with
Starting point is 00:10:40 himself when he thinks that he's asleep. He might be schizophrenic. That was crazy. I saw that and I immediately screenshotted it. So that's an extra bonus Monday reading. But don't you almost respect Bob? Oh yeah. What an absolute savage that guy is. I would hire Bob just to make sure that Bob was under my control.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, he moved out of the country. He's like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. Yeah, because otherwise every job that I go to, it's gonna be like, I hope Bob's not working here. It might be Kim calm He's in the Philippines somewhere. Oh, yeah that guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but the Excel no one knows how to use it and everyone says they can use it. Yeah Excel that's a program that will one day end up replacing human brains. Yes
Starting point is 00:11:23 Alright, so other any other thoughts about the term before we continue with the show I'm'm just so excited. NIT big NIT number one Matt We'll do a poll tomorrow should max live stream Villanova's bid to win an IT championship This is this is max's Super Bowl. No, I mean half on Instagram. Yeah Just give it to us if it's within ten points in the fourth quarter. You should have to go live on Instagram On the part might my take Instagram. Fine. Deal. The NIT did quarters at some point.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I don't know if they still do. Because then you can also join. Oh, yeah, we can join. We can laugh at you. Yeah. Max is ready to go for the NIT. I just filled out my NIT bracket. Shout out, NIT Stew.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I've got Ohio State beating Villanova in the finals. Wow. Would that be incredible? It'd be so funny. We should talk quickly about Anthony Edwards ending a life last night. Yeah, that was, that was, embrace debate. Was that a dunk? So all those dunks always like, yeah, when you, when you like zoom in, you're like, did
Starting point is 00:12:18 the ball leave his hand beforehand? And touch the rim? Or did he follow through on the rim? Holy shit. Some of those screenshots, you see he had, he made John Collins smell his fingers before he don't dislocated his finger Yeah, he dislocated his finger on the dunk and then stayed in the game after I'm counting it as a dunk Just cuz I like cool sports moments like that where like the world stopped to be like, did you see what Anthony Edwards just did? Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:40 It was pretty incredible and and he's had like six dunks like that over the course of his career where people have stopped and Legitimately asked the question like is this the best dunk of all time? Yeah, so he's he's fucking awesome The only problem with that dunk was it was kind of overshadowed by Austin Reeves getting dunked on last night Oh, no, I didn't because oh you got big cat. I want to get your live reaction to it. There was a teabagging Oh, no, there was a teabagging and they asked Austin Reeves after the game. What it was like from his vantage point He's like nobody wants to see that from my vantage point. No one wants to see that. I we also should mention wait, hold on Jalen Johnson on Austin Reeves. Oh No, it was oh no, it was Johnson fall back is the problem. It was literally Johnson on Reeves
Starting point is 00:13:22 I would I would if I were Austin Reeves, I tried to headbutt his dick you bite it off Yeah, there's only one move just grab I would never get dunked on like this I just want to say that right now. No, I was I would foul way before that Well, I also I have pride in my rim protection. Yeah, I would just tell you buckets tackle him before that. Oh, man Yeah, you look like he actually was hitting a hurdle. Holy fuck. That's bad. Yeah. Vicious stuff. We also, while we're talking to NBA, we missed it because we were, we were deep into college basketball, but Kyrie's game winner was one of the coolest shots. It was crazy. The left handed flow. It was over. It was such a cool shot that you had guys from around the league in their
Starting point is 00:14:00 next practice trying to recreate that shot to see if they could make it. They had guys on the maps like, I don't know who was on the baseline like put their hands on their heads and like collapsed. Yeah. That was fucking awesome. Yeah, it was wild. But it is college basketball time. We respect the sports calendar.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I had one thing that we also missed on Sunday, which we should probably talk about. Aaron Donald? Yeah, Aaron Donald retired. Yeah, that's our fault. Maybe Aaron Aaron, you could have the case, the perfect career if he had won two Super Bowls. So if he had won the other one, but that that wasn't a defensive issue that was that, you know, the Rams defense came to play in that game. They gave up 13 points to Patriots, but Aaron Donald played 10 years in the NFL. He was a pro bowler all
Starting point is 00:14:45 10 years. He won rookie of the year. He won three time defensive player of the year and he was an eight time first team all pro selection and he had a Superbowl ring and he had some crazy ass stats like for the last six years, Aaron Donald faced 1,797 double teams, 150 more than anyone else in the defensive field, yet he still led all defensive tackles and pass rush win rate during that span at 26%. Hank. He also was responsible, like highest of highs, most viral, best interview on this podcast
Starting point is 00:15:25 ever, as well as one of the worst. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Oh yeah. There's probably him and John Cena in terms of like really good interviews while also having really bad interviews. And then remember he got, he was on that other podcast where they asked him just football questions and he kept being like, I'm just here to talk about Epsom salts.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Yeah. Like I want to talk about this Epsom salt. That was on this. Yeah, that was when we interviewed him at the Super Bowl in Miami and it was incredible. Meme's whole career was based on that interview with Meme calling him a pussy. Yeah, all time clip. And then he came on to, what was he promoting? A sports drink?
Starting point is 00:15:58 And he insisted on his partner coming on as well who might've played basketball at Pitt, but we didn't have any questions for him and we did like 10 minutes and then he wanted to go. Yeah. So he gave it all. He really was everything. But I actually think that Aaron Donald is close to a perfect career as you could possibly have minus the Super Bowl loss.
Starting point is 00:16:16 But he literally was a pro bowler every single year and eight out of his 10 years, he was an all pro first team. And he trained with knives. That's also an all time clip is watching him just work out in the off season. There's a all-pro first team. And he trained with knives. That's also an all-time clip, is watching him just work out in the off season, there's a guy trying to stab him. And he also- And he's just like, no.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And he also was just like, the fact that he was quote unquote undersized at his position, but still so goddamn dominant. Yeah. Cause like, you know, a lot of defensive tackles are, you know, you think of like the Holodinatas or the, you know, Vince Wilfork, but he just, he had a fucking six pack and he would just dominate
Starting point is 00:16:50 everyone all the time. One thing I don't like is the new trend of really good players retiring and then instantly the official Hall of Fame social media accounts being like, we'll see you in four years or whatever, but leaves at least some suspense up there. Yeah, like yeah, he's going to be a Hall of Fame, but he's one of the best football players of all time.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Give it some time. Give it some time. Don't annoy him just yet. Yeah. I like the official accounts to stay out of that. Yeah. The official accounts should be above all the speculation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I agree. It's final when it's final for them. I agree. But yeah, Aaron Donald, I think probably the best defensive player I've ever seen play. Yeah, he's the most dominant in this era. I know JJ Watt was, I mean, JJ Watt was, his peak was very, very dominant,
Starting point is 00:17:32 but reminder that Aaron Donald did it from the defensive tackle position. Yeah. Which is just, that's not, your job isn't always to get after the quarterback and he just always did. He also had the perfect time of year to retire. Quit your job before March Madness.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Yeah. I wish he had done it on not Sunday of conference championships. We would have talked about it on Sunday. That was our fuck up. Yeah. Imagine though, imagine, imagine retiring one year and you're like, oh shit, what am I going to do now that I'm retired? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Oh wait. Yeah. I have an entire month of college basketball to watch. Pitch and make it though. Yeah, that's tough. Also RG3 got ratioed to hell. Yeah, RG3 loves the take game. Man, he was so off.
Starting point is 00:18:10 He basically was like, Caleb Williams should not go to Chicago and basically had no facts behind it. I agree with him. I think he made some good points. And then he should demand a trade to a successful, well-run franchise historically like the Washington commanders. And I quoted and just stated simple facts and he then quickly did the Kermit the Frog, aw big cat in his feels, everyone's like dude he got ratioed again. It was like thousands of quote tweets on his original tweet. Yeah RG3 likes to he likes to dip his toes in the game.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I like him buddy man he has some bad fucking takes. That was a bad take. Real bad. I think he's right I had time for it on Monday. I went to war with The the fallout of the Caleb Williams Justin Fields. There's still some people there was actually I don't know if it's a troll or not But there was one person who did tweet out a petition for the Bears to bring back Justin Fields No, that's what we're talking about. Remember like if Caleb Williams gets dinged up this year Yeah, just I want to sprinkle it out there for Bears fans to just have in the back of their head, like why not bring back Justin? Yeah. I was working out stats. I was doing everything because people were arguing about
Starting point is 00:19:12 there's not enough quarterbacks that have won Super Bowls on rookie contracts to actually be like, this is the way. And I went and looked it up. It's essentially if you have Mahomes or Brady, you win a Super Bowl. Yeah. And it's also that if you have a cheap quarterback, you would rather have a cheap quarterback than an expensive quarterback, am I right? It gives you your best chance. So I'm pulling it up. I went through the whole thing. Like I said, I had time for it on Monday because I was just waiting for college basketball to start. But starting this past year, Brock Purdy was in the Super Bowl on a cheap, cheap contract. The year before, Jalen Hurts was on a cheap, cheap contract.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Burrow was on a cheap contract in 21. Mahomes in 20. Mahomes won it in 19 on a cheap contract. Goff in 18. Foles, because remember, Carson Wentz was still on his rookie contract. Foles won it, not paying a lot. Kam in 15, Russ in 14 Foles won it, not paying a lot. Cam in 15, Russ in 14, Russ won it in 12, and Flacco went against Kaepernick who both were on cheap
Starting point is 00:20:10 contracts and he won it, Flacco won it in 12. So basically every year someone from the Super Bowl is going to be a cheap quarterback and the other one's going to be Mahomes or Brady and they're going to win. Yeah, you'd rather have a quarterback that's not getting paid a lot of money so you can pay a lot of money to other good players. Yes. If you disagree with that premise I don't think we're even speaking the same language. The argument boils down to if you if you want to say having a cheap quarterback will just get you a loss in the Super Bowl to my homes or Brady. That's fine. Fine. Oh I would suck a dick.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I'd take it. I'd take it in a second. It's a it's quarterback Photoshop season too so Shane came up to me earlier today and said that he's working on Photoshop's for the draft And so I was like just give me all the quarterback Photoshop's just just make me a Caleb Williams one just so I can look at it Yeah, he'll Williams DC one. I just want to have that on deck just I looked at it. It looks pretty good. That's mine I agree with RG 3. That's mine Hank while we're talking about Brady and my homes the Patriots dynasty documentary has concluded. Yep Wow, was that a hit piece on Bill Belichick? Yeah Big holy shit. I'll say this
Starting point is 00:21:16 It was very clearly pointed and it was meant to make Robert Kraft look like the the benevolent father Who kept it all together. Who kept it all together. Calling him Tommy constantly. Which is very creepy every time he says it. And then it made Belichick look like he was, like abusive. They made him look like he was abusive and negligent. And the only thing that I would say to Bill would be, he didn't do a very good job of acquitting himself
Starting point is 00:21:43 in those interviews. Like when they asked him the tough questions, he would just be like, I don't want to talk about that right now, which made him look worse than I think the actual situation was. But Bill Belichick's not like an open book. He didn't want to be doing the documentary. If he had just been a little bit more gregarious,
Starting point is 00:21:58 if he had explained one or two things more in depth rather than just sitting there. And we don't know what they cut out. We don't know what they cut out. But from what they used, he just seemed like he would rather be anywhere else than answering those questions, which ended up making him look worse.
Starting point is 00:22:11 But I loved some of those answers when they asked him, what did you think about Tom Brady's performance in the Super Bowl against the Eagles? And he's like, well, their offense scored more than us. So give credit to their coaches. Yeah, so the Malcolm Butler thing was, it still is weird to this day. So weird. So weird.
Starting point is 00:22:30 But they also, they set that season up to make it seem like all the players hated. They didn't want to be there. All those players came back. They made it to the Super Bowl that year, almost won. They won the Super Bowl the next year. And then they did give Belichick credit for that Super Bowl against the Rams.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But then they also made it seem like well because you know bill did good I had to I told Tommy Tommy knew like I had to sign Belichick like it almost made him sound he was mad about The fact that they'd won a Super Bowl and then that he was like well You know that kind of decided the fate like we had to go with with bill right it made it seem like they were gonna fire Belichick if he lost that Super Bowl which I I don't think was ever going to happen. Right. My, it was, it was weird watching it cause it, it almost, it made me, you know, they slanted it from Crafts POV, but they didn't have any, you know, being a Patriots fan for those 20 years rooting for Belichick, rooting for Brady, rooting for all the players was
Starting point is 00:23:19 the greatest time of all time. Like being a Patriots fan was amazing and they didn't really, it didn't feel like that. They made it feel like you were, you shouldn't, you should be sad for being a Patriots fan and like, Oh, you were a fan of this guy. Like how dare you. So that, that part made me sad where it was like, this was the greatest run of all time and they're not making it feel like that. Yeah. The weird part to me is like I've, I've been consistent when everyone's like Brady or Belichick it's like, well, the player is obviously the most important thing. Like when we talked to Diana Rossini, and she
Starting point is 00:23:50 was like the Patriot way is like the Patriot way is having Tom Brady, just like the Chiefs way is having Patrick Holmes. If you have the best quarterback in the game, it doesn't really matter. Like everything else kind of works. But like, so I don't think most people don't say like, oh, it's Belichick over Brady. They're like, yeah, the player, he's the greatest quarterback. Like that's the guy. So to then go even further to bury Belichick seemed just so unnecessary. And he was also, you know, slightly bearing his own organization with the trainer stuff
Starting point is 00:24:22 being like, oh, you know, it was crazy. They kicked out square out when he was, you know, directly going against what the Patriots team trainers were saying, which I don't know if those are Belichick's guys or crass guys or whatever, but that, that whole thing was strange. It was, it was a sad watch. Also from Belichick's point of view, your star player has his own personal trainer. He's also working with other people on the team. That same personal trainer has also been accused of being a fraud in the past that misdiagnosed cancer, or not misdiagnosed, said that he had cures for cancer and diseases like that that he obviously did not have.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That's probably a liability in your head, like, oh, there's this outside guy that's working with my best players. And trying to grow a business. Trying to grow a business. So conflict of interest, probably right on the inside. So yeah, it's not as cut and dry as they made it seem in that documentary. But when they talked about the Malcolm Butler stuff. Yeah. Hank, how many people on planet earth do you think know the true exact story of what happened and how Belichick reacted to it and decided to bench Malcolm Butler?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Maybe three, four? Yeah. How much money would you pay to know that? To know exactly, like to have your own personal documentary made about how it went down and have all the footage? I don't know. I don't really want to know, I don't think. Here's the one thing that doesn't make sense to me about the Malcolm Butler thing. Malcolm Butler has never said what he did. Right? Right. So it has to be
Starting point is 00:25:48 something that people would be like, Whoa, you know what I mean? Like Malcolm Butler is in a good spot right now because everyone's like, we don't know why he got benched. Belichick will never say it. Malcolm Butler will never say it. So your mind can just be like Belichick fucked up. But doesn't it feel like if you got benched in that position and you literally did nothing when you just be like, I don't like here's everything I did and there's nothing here. I just don't know. It makes no sense to me. Yeah. I mean, obviously it was a very, very, very personal situation. Right. So it doesn't feel like if Malcolm Butler said it, if Malcolm Butler probably knows deep down what happened and if he said it people would be like, oh well, dude
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah, you shouldn't have done that. So now we need to ask like is Bill Belichick the good guy in this situation I don't know for never saying what it is that that always confused me about it because it's like Malcolm Butler as far as I know has never said like I think it might be this, you know what I mean? No, he was acting oblivious in the dark, right? And it's to get disciplined by the Patriots if you're a star player you have to do some really fucked up right really fucked up yeah it was weird and also the Trump you know they pinned the Trump thing on Belichick but it's like it was Brady Kraft Belichick it was all three of them were yeah we're Trump
Starting point is 00:27:00 guys but they started the episode with like reading the letter from Belichick and then that slanted the whole thing I thought it was a good documentary in the fact that they did Okay, I thought it was a good documentary in the fact that the things that people are interested outside of like you is the is Those stories but they just it was so slanted to bad stories instead of like a couple good stories Like that's what people want to watch people don't want to watch a a documentary that's just like they won six Super Bowls. I know you do. It could have been, it could have been like a 15 part series, just only football porn
Starting point is 00:27:34 for Hank Lockwood. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I guess the only thing comparable would be the last dance, but the last dance was through Michael Jordan's lens and it was anti ownership and this was through the owner's lens and it was almost it was anti Belchuk. Yeah now there's another piece of this that I wanted to bring up and also Brady like that was tough where Brady was like yeah there's things I don't want to talk. Yeah then Kraft just said it. Yeah like Giselle said you're not making my husband a man.
Starting point is 00:27:57 You're not treating him like a man. They don't treat Tommy like a man. That was so weird. Yeah that was very strange. Was Brady a part of the edit? Because there's a part that I want to talk about. Are you and I about to talk about the same thing? We're at Maxxner on the same page here,
Starting point is 00:28:11 because I've got it queued up, Maxx. So my cool thrown was going to be Tom Brady's pettiness, because a Twitter user, Todd Orndenker, discovered that they edited something out during this documentary that's very weird, that it was edited out. They showed the highlights of the Super Bowl where the Eagles won and on the Philly special they played an edited version of Al Michael's play call and so I want you to listen to these two play calls. One is the first is the actual game call and then the second is as it
Starting point is 00:28:43 appears in the dynasty documentary. So it's right here. This is the call by Michaels, obviously saying the word fulls cause he's the one who caught the touchdown. Caught fulls touchdown. So what does the Apple Show do? Snap it, edit, drink for a new face,
Starting point is 00:29:10 caught, touchdown! They edited out the word Foles. What? And we've seen clips of Tom Brady not liking it when people bring up Nick Foles. Was it Mannings that brought up Nick Foles' name? He fucking hates Nick Foles. What? And he had his name edited out of this documentary. That's wild. That is wild
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna defend the filmmakers of this. So Wow, it seems like that would be a Tom Brady specific require. I don't think that there's a filmmaker That's like, you know what? I'm gonna edit out Foles Well for time, you know, it may have been like a quarter of a second You know Hank makes a good point also for time I think the the time of each episode varies between like 37 minutes and like one hour and six minutes Yeah, I think they can do as much time as they want, but no you're right Probably edit out for time ten part series they come for time
Starting point is 00:30:01 One word yeah, I like like that I respect that little level of pettiness it actually that's awesome it probably max doesn't make you feel good though no I love that way yeah the Eagles are so far in Tom Brady's head and Nick Foles will always be there they also discredited the whole like that that's super boy nothing with the Eagles winning it was just Malcolm Butler yeah mm-hmm yeah Malcolm Butler plays like you don't have a super boring I don't care I didn't want I didn't watch it I won't watch anything about the Patriots dynasty
Starting point is 00:30:26 They yeah that that that is so funny just thinking like Tom Brady watched all ten parts. It was like only one note. Yeah But if you broke down the ten episodes into things that were not positive Versus dinosaur nose. It was definitely like 75 25. Yeah, it should be called. It wasn't about like the dynasty I just feel bad for Belichick because he's the best coach of all time and he just got butchered Yeah, absolutely butchered I do think though I like the NFL films backed out when they kind of realized what was going on and I feel like that's gonna Invigorate them in Belichick to come out with their own version, which will be that would be awesome. Die nasty. Yeah
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah, I like that come back at it. Yeah, the demeanor that Belichick had the entire time He's being interviewed was was that of a man that knew it was a setup. Yeah. Oh, we have breaking moves Signing with the Jets Oh Congrats memes. We're back. We're back. Shout out NYJ Matt. He sent Mike Williams a bacon, egg and ham facility and it got to him. That's the deal. Oh, I like that. Okay. Good job NYJ Matt. Why didn't you do that? Is it because you're on the PIP? Stop saying that. I think his name is just PIP. He's just going to be talking to me about this for the rest of I love you means I'm not going to let that take away from this news is awesome
Starting point is 00:31:52 yes can have an Harrison possible Marvin Harrison now Dana Jeremiah dropped a mock draft and had the jet strapped in Marvin Harrison and what number for train up oh ok I love I love mock drafts with trades in them. Yeah, the fastest. Just anything can happen. They're trying to sprinkle around. They're trying to get clicks.
Starting point is 00:32:10 So they're like, each fan base can have something to look forward to if there's a trade. I can't wait for draft season. The Vikings are up to something. Yeah. The Ryan Windhorse meme, up to something. They're JJ. They're the favorites to draft JJ.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Would be the perfect quarterback for the Vikings. Yeah. Where he will be discussed endlessly Justin Jefferson's not gonna be happy with that. Yeah Yeah, okay. Let's do hot sea cool throne and then we'll get to mark Titus talk brackets hot sea cool Throne is presented by Coors light from day to day annoyances to the big stuff life throws your way It's easy to get worked up But there's a better way a chiller. Turn that canceled concert into a parking lot
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Starting point is 00:34:21 But Boeing. Ah, yeah. Yeah. Boeing is on the hot seat. Allegedly, I guess I. Yeah. Yeah. Boeing is on the hot seat, allegedly, I guess I'll say. No, they're on the hot seat. They're on the hot seat. There was a whistleblower, John Barnett, who was doing a deposition. He worked for Boeing.
Starting point is 00:34:35 He had all the inside secrets at one of their plants or factories or whatever. He did a whole testimony kind of going through what he said. I guess he was reciting a lot of stuff off memory and that scared the Boeing lawyers. He was supposed to drive home. Boeing lawyers asked him to stay one more day to finish his testimony and then his body was found the morning of 3-9 dead. Yeah. Allegedly from suicide, even though he told his family if I die, it's not suicide. He was suicide. And there was another thing that happened. I think it was a flight from New Zealand where the plane dipped like it dropped for about 30 seconds and everybody on board was certain they were gonna crash and
Starting point is 00:35:12 The the Boeing explanation of what actually happened on that plane Was that a stewardess hit one of the buttons on the seat which made the plane drop? I am like not putting your phone in airplane mode. Yeah, I'm not an expert on planes. I do know more than I think the standard flysexual out there. But there's not a button on a seat that makes the plane crash. That would be a bad button to include on a plane. I did use to think when I was a little kid that my gameboy control the plane. Yeah, that's true. And I was like, oh, they have to turn it off because I could just be like left plane goes left. That part's true. Really I was like, oh, I have to turn it off because I could just be like left, plane goes left. That part's true.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Really dumb stuff from a kid. But yeah, Boeing, not a great week to be Boeing. No. And I'm worried about you, Hank. That was Henry Lockwood who said that. He lives on. Allegedly. He does have information pertaining to the arrest
Starting point is 00:36:03 and subsequent conviction of Hillary Clinton as well. Please contact him. If you're looking at him. But don't do it at work. Nope. If I die, it's not suicide. And then my cool throne.
Starting point is 00:36:14 If I die, it's not suicide as well. If I die, it's not suicide. It's another- Unless Billy gets elected president, then I will commit suicide. If I die, it's not suicide. Okay. Kate Middleton. Yeah. She's alive. Is she?
Starting point is 00:36:26 No BBL. What do you mean? Is she? Embrace the bait. What do you mean she's alive? How do you know? Is she? There was pictures of her out with her family.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Was that real, her? Oh, the blurry picture, the Bigfoot quality footage? Is she? What do you guys think? I don't think so. I think she might be alive. I don't think that was her. I think they just keep putting these things out there to try to get us off the case any
Starting point is 00:36:46 AWLs out there that have had a Brazilian butt lift let us know First how it turned out second of all how long it took for you to be out in public again because I'm pretty sure That it's not like four months wasn't the wasn't the throne supposed to Announce something didn't they have like an announcement coming? Yeah, Charles might be dead and it seems that if you well Yeah I think it was like Sputnik over in Russia that reported that King Charles was dead and then England had to be like Psych he's not dead and big news with those the British people are fucking weirdos King Charles could be dead Like he could have died on Saturday and they'll just have him laying in that bed giving him little kisses and being like we love you
Starting point is 00:37:23 Are we are we gonna do the thing that we did during football season where we like delayed kickoff of week one to all Cry for the Queen you remember that Well, we're gonna do that again for Charles. Also. I'll just say if King Charles did die like dude What the fuck you waited how long if your mom lived to be like a hundred years old you waited you waited 50 years To become king and then you just Damn, dude, if he is that shit long if he is dead I'm taking Alabama to losing the first round Charleston though. Yeah, you got to think of the edge in that situation I also I kind of love the royal family because they are they're the quintessential like you can just make fun of them because
Starting point is 00:38:00 You can punch up to those people. Yeah all day. Maybe that's what they're. Don't feel bad. They're not really there to give hope and meaning and optimism to the British people. Maybe they're just there to have like a group of people that you can just make fun of. We can all make fun of them. We're American. We can make fun of them all we want. Yeah. They got to fuck. His brother's a fucking pedophile. Anyways, allegedly. But no, no, no. You know what? I'm going to say. Yeah, yeah. Is a pedophile. If sweating problem. Yeah. Doesn't sweat. If. Yeah. If I lived in England, I would just that would that would be my career.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It would just be making fun of the royal family. Yeah, it's awesome. But also, like if you're Kate Middleton and you've been you, you just got caught releasing a fake Photoshop at some point, if you're OK, wouldn't you put out a picture being let us know, sorry, I got caught putting out a fake Photoshop at some point if you're okay wouldn't you put out a picture being let us know sorry I got caught putting out a fake Photoshop here's a real picture of me you already AMA yeah I'm okay yeah with today's date okay good hot seat cool throne Hank thanks PFT my hot seat is the NIT oh because Tom Kareem I think he cried on TV when they announced the brackets we
Starting point is 00:39:04 love Tom we love Tom Kareem I like think he cried on TV when they announced the brackets. We love Tom We love Tom Kareem. I like I like his passion I admire his passion But he's just saying like coaches should demand to get better and then somebody brought up the fact that his last year at, Indiana They had the opportunity to host an nIT game and they declined hosting it because they thought hosting an nIT game would be beneath The University of Indiana. Yeah. You know what dockets would say to that? My ass, my ass, fucking my ass, my ass. Uh, but now to be fair to Tom Kreen,
Starting point is 00:39:37 I believe that was right before he was about to be fired. It was the ADS call. Right? Right. Right. And we had him on. Yeah. It wasn't Tom Kreen's call. Yeah. So all the, we're getting all the facts around the situation, but people are upset at Tom Kreen. I agree, like if you're a college basketball coach, you probably want to coach more basketball. Now if you're a player, you probably don't want to play. I don't know, I've always assumed the NIT, like if you're a player who's maybe not a starter
Starting point is 00:39:58 or someone's going to the NBA, but if you're someone who like wants to get better, like playing more basketball is good, right? Yeah. If you want to cement your job for next year, it's like bowl games. Everyone shits on bowl games. That's an extra three weeks of practice
Starting point is 00:40:13 for these college football teams that all these young guys opt out, young guys get a chance. Listen, I want to watch more college basketball. Yeah. I'm always in favor of having it. I bet the NIT. Just more sports on.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. And then my cool throw was gonna be pettiness with Tom Brady editing out the word foals. I'm always in favor of that DNI just more sports on. Yeah. And then my my cool thrown was going to be pettiness with Tom Brady editing out the word foals. I love it. Which again, kind of respect, but also good for Max. Yeah. OK. My hot seat I have two. One is memes pointed this out. The hot seat is Houston. So this was on college basketball. Reddit in every tournament since 2021, the top two seed is lost in the first round. Big sample size, by the way, in the first round to a team with a phallic, you've euphemistic name in 2021 or Roberts defeated Ohio state in 2022, St.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Peters defeated Kentucky in 2023. Fairleigh Dickinson defeated Purdue. That's three years in a row. Once is happenstance twice as coincidence, three times as a pattern in 2024. Houston will face a Longwood in the first round. Just looking at the bracket right here. I see two right next to each other. What about Moorhead? Yeah. Moorhead. Yeah. And then Drake. Yeah, Drake's very phallic. Yeah, Drake is also phallic Okay, so what will happen? I? Don't know Interesting going I'm gonna go Drake. It's it's only one and two top two seats. Okay, and this huge sample size
Starting point is 00:41:35 Well, yeah, I don't know I think it's just because usually big schools play against schools that you don't hear about that have They have to get admissions up somehow so they have to insinuate penises into their exactly there's also st. Peter's again yes St. Peter's again team yeah there we go see there it is peacocks peacock yeah the cocks long beach It's the same as long was long be Yeah Beach, okay Long bitch, but my other hot seat is Clemson fans. So this is from a hilarious Twitter account that everyone should follow board geniuses is message board geniuses This Clemson fam called tiger bomb one
Starting point is 00:42:22 I stayed up all night watching every New Mexico State game start to finish. And from what I've been able to determine, there are two things the staff needs to be on the lookout for. First, if they shoot threes, we better be careful. They're not bad misses or we may get out rebounded. And second, I hope our team is well rested going into this matchup. We can chalk this up as an automatic W if we win in those two key areas. Clemson is playing New Mexico,
Starting point is 00:42:46 not New Mexico State. That's awesome. But Tigerbomb won, stayed up all night to watch every single New Mexico State. Are we sure he didn't watch New Mexico and called them New Mexico State? I don't know, but that's just very funny. I hope he wasted his time. The idea of just watching all of them being like, we got this. What did New Mexico State, let's see, their basketball team this year. Well, they dealt with some off the court stuff last year. Yes. After Chris Jans left and now he's doing a great job at Mississippi State.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yes. But I think it's been downhill for them. They were 13-9 in Conference USA. So easy dub, easy dub for Clemson. My cool throne is Jim Harbaugh, who did in the most Jim Harbaugh way ever a garage sale at his house in Ann Arbor. Is this common when coaches get fired or they leave to go somewhere else? For Jim Harbaugh it is.
Starting point is 00:43:34 They just sell all their shit? The man who has millions and millions of dollars is like, well we got to, he doesn't waste things. He doesn't waste a nut. He would probably win the the Excel Olympics. Yes, for sure. He's proficient in excel I just love the visual of Jim Harbaugh being like here's all my junk cuz you know, he's gonna get good prices for it Yeah, he's it's not a not a bargain hundred stream. The khakis would probably go for like 500 apiece
Starting point is 00:43:55 Oh man came one back. He probably has like some dips of school that have just like a little bit left in them And he's like fuck it. So those two. When we next interview Jim Harbaugh in person, we gotta ask for some game-worn khakis. I bet you he'd give them to us. I think so. Some of the transition lenses too. A mock turtleneck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:16 The whole deal. I would like that. Jake. My hot seat is us here on part of my take because we have some new competition in the sports podcasting world. Ah yeah, Lou Holt. LeBron James has started his own podcast with JJ Reddick called Mind the Game.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You'll never guess this, but their first episode, you ready for this? Are you sitting down? You sitting down? I'm down. They were drinking wine. Oh really? Yeah. Good for them.
Starting point is 00:44:45 That's just what average guys do when they podcast. I would actually listen to a LeBron James podcast if the topic every day was who's the goat MJ or LeBron. Yeah. And they just broke it down in a different way every single time. Topic one, who's the goat. Topic two, remember when you gave your five year old daughter wine? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Topic three, you remember when you showed your penis on national television. Yeah. People forget that. People forget about LeBron just- Slashing us all. showed your penis on national television? Yeah. Now I would listen to that. People forget that. People forget about LeBron just flashing America, including youngsters. Yeah. Well, they started as asking a very simple question. What makes a great basketball player?
Starting point is 00:45:14 What was the answer? I don't know, I was reading the synopsis. Being six foot eight. Being able to shoot the ball in the hoop. Wine. Yeah. Yeah, they had two bottles of wine on the table. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Yeah, my cool throne is baseball. Happy opening day. We talked about it with Sanford Steve a little bit, but we have opening day in South Korea between the Dodgers and the Padres at 6.30 a.m. Eastern time. Way to stay relevant, baseball. Hey, it's not going against March Madness.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Kind of is. But it's not, the timing. It's in the spirit of it. Yeah. Yeah. It's a crazy move. What do you say, Max? against March Madness kind of is it's not the time it's in the spirit of it yeah yeah crazy move where you say Max I I need to add this did you did you see Jose Alvarado no he's a pitcher for the Phillies he's a larger man they asked about his the power coming from his legs and if that helps him with his velocity and he talked about how he's a big grizzly bear and then
Starting point is 00:46:05 he said I'm fucking fat or fuck it I fuck I fucked it up well you're fat too so yeah wait he goes come on I just had it up I just had it up come on Max yeah so you have your 5 a.m. Eastern Dodgers Padres in South Korea in other baseball news did anybody see Chapman's Instagram post that he put up a couple days ago. He likes his mom's breasts. He likes his mom's breasts a lot Yeah, is that just nature way more? Well usually you grow out of that like what? 37 years ago. How old is he? He's older and he yeah 36 years Yeah, usually you would grow out of that 35 years ago. He was honking him. He was really into his mom's boobs. Yeah That is the source of life. He was fondling
Starting point is 00:46:49 It was a weird dude. It was very strange that weird weird dude that might have been The weirdest like self-promoted Instagram video of all time. Yeah, maybe it's cultural. I He did is that what happens in Cuba, I don't know. I'm just trying to help him out. He did win a world series for me. Uh, Max, give us the quote. Bro, I feel like a fat boy. You know, like I'm fucking fat. Can you send me that clip, please? Yeah, it's the best. He's awesome. Yeah. Uh, okay. Good hot seat, cool drones guys. Let's get to our interview with Mark Titus. We're going to break down the whole bracket before we do that. If you're
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Starting point is 00:49:21 So thank you to Uber Eats. Okay, here he is, our good friend, Mark Titus. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, one of our favorite long time recurring guests, eight years running. I think he was first on the show. I believe it was March of 2016. Might have been March of 2016. Yeah, it was. I was guessing him for like three or four. Three or four. It is Mark Titus.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Everybody was like, who the fuck is this guest? Yeah. This podcast sucks now. Our co-worker, just kidding Mark, he's been with us now at Barstool for almost over a year. First year review. You gotta work better. You gotta work harder. I gotta work. I gotta do more work. You suck. You're actually on a pimp No, I said this last time I was here. I love it. It took a little while being a new guy here does suck Yeah, we'll say that I'll be completely honest Because I was under a microscope that I didn't necessarily think I would be under you sort of get like a you get like a reality check of how
Starting point is 00:50:23 Not important you are too when you sign on to work here because I don't think I'm the biggest guy in sports media by any stretch of the imagination but I felt like when I came here I had like sort of some sort of reputation or I had some sort of people kind of knew me a little bit but then I got the bar stool and there was just a lot of I realized I'm being introduced to a completely different audience of people they're like who the fuck is this guy a lot of he's only here because he's Dan's friend and you know, which is true Yeah, but yeah, but also like we became friends because I was doing some shit before I got the bar
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah So that part was I was not anticipating that but I love it here and and I think year one was awesome So yeah, what do you have for your one was awesome as well? You have anything big for year two? Face tattoo. I'm getting a face tattoo. I think face tattoos, this is the golden era of face tattoos. They're everywhere. A lot of celebrities have them and I just feel like
Starting point is 00:51:14 maybe that's what I need to shake it up. Yeah, I've noticed that. There's a lot more people, if you're a moderately successful punk musician now or a pop punk guy, you're getting teardrop tattoos. Yeah. We need to put something in place where we monitor, guy you're getting teardrop tattoo Yeah, we need to put something in place where we monitor if you have a teardrop tattoo. You should have killed somebody. Mm-hmm Like yeah, we're just doing it to now people just do it cuz they're depressed do you remember when Mike Tyson got the face tattoo? Oh, yeah freaked out about it ever and now I mean if you watch the Grammys like
Starting point is 00:51:41 Have the people there at face that's if you. If you're an artist or an MMA fighter and you don't have at least neck, you're like, what have you been doing? Yeah, so. Yeah, but year one I thought went great. Also, I'm so happy you've been here and joined us. I pitched you hard what it was like two years ago. I was doing my Cal sitting in your living room,
Starting point is 00:52:04 being like, you gotta come you got to join And part of that was just that when we get to this week of the calendar I didn't want to have to text you being like hey, can you come on the show? I wanted to just be able to be like hey Can you come on the show and just walk five feet and come on the show? Let me text my bosses make sure it's okay Yes, this is good. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm way more prepared I will say for this year's NCA Turner that was that was probably the hardest part is like the second I signed on It made a lot of sense for me to get hired right before the NCAA tournament because it's the you know
Starting point is 00:52:32 It's my big time I guess but having like my first real assignment here to be in the gambling cave with you and Dave and Everybody else when I really didn't know I know Dave like a little bit But like when I was in there I had met Dave like three times in my life and suddenly he's like screaming at me about picks yeah it was just sit here and be perfect we essentially put you into Navy SEALs Buds training yeah where it's like the first day they drown you and bring you back to life like all right now you got to go lay in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:53:05 That is how college basketball guys recruit is you show all the big titted women and all the gear and all the money. And then the second you're on campus, you're like, get on the line, we're running suicides. That's how it kind of felt for me was like, you're selling me on this, this dream in Chicago and this fantasy factory and all that. And I'm like, yeah, dude, yeah, I'll sign right here and I sign and you're like go sit next to big Go have Dave yell at you and big ev was yelling at me and we were like where the fuck am I we're just sending you Links daily to smoke shows and guess that asses and then you signed up here You're like, okay now you have to sit on a couch directly next to mincy. Yeah, we hearted you Yeah, let me see breathe on you for a while. I'll be better prepared this year. Who was your final four last year?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah, let me see breathe on you for a while. I'll be better prepared this year. Who was your final four last year? Not good. I had Bama winning it wasn't they made the sweet 16 they I can't remember who else I had I had Bama winning it Is all I really remember and then they lost to San Diego State But uh, I don't remember last year's bracket being that bad as far as embarrassments go I wasn't that I wasn't Jake Marsh who has two years in a row now Picked the has his national championship Champion lose on day. Who's your national champion this year? North Carolina, so yeah
Starting point is 00:54:14 Howard Wagner, I actually look I mean we could just dive into it like and we could start with the West Yeah, I actually think that that is the most chaotic and like ripe for upset absolutely region because I don't of drama Yeah, the reason of drama because la We kind of autumn it's la yeah, and that's it It seemed like that was a he had predetermined that one But I was looking through the bracket because it's always like Sunday night We just give our instant reactions Then you have a couple days to digest it and I'd spend the basically Monday through Wednesday filling my head with
Starting point is 00:54:48 stats and a whole plan on how I'm going to gamble on Thursday and Friday and then the minute the games tip I throw it all out the window. But that West region I don't I actually think it's the region of teams I don't trust. Right. I don't trust the sink like Alabama which you just mentioned. They have been playing some of the worst ball possible down the stretch. Arizona, they are, they, they throw out clunkers left and right. And if you slow them down, it's like they can't, they can't run the half court. I don't trust Baylor. They turn the ball over and they're like chaotic, you know, Baylor can look awesome one day and then it can look like they don't know how to play basketball the next and North
Starting point is 00:55:25 Carolina is probably the weakest of the four one seeds. So they definitely are yeah and and Bama Yeah, like you said they don't guard anybody I don't think Baylor guards anybody Dayton is is a is an interesting team in terms of like they were ranked at certain points In this season they have the Ron Holmes who's one of the best players in the country But they're actually as like a team not really putting it together St. Mary's is interesting but like the way they play so slow and I don't know if they have the top-end talent to really go on or like that I think St. Mary's can can win a few games in this tournament but when it
Starting point is 00:55:57 comes to the Jimmy's and Joe's versus the X's and O's type thing like I don't know if they have the horses really. Can I throw out one crazy thing in this west? Go ahead. Michigan State? I know. It's hard not to. It does. Because they are, if you're like,
Starting point is 00:56:12 if we're going to have the Izzo conversation that we have every year, it's like, his team's not that good, but they over perform in March. And they also, so you guys were doing your bracket show, so you weren't able to watch the CBS bracket reveal, but we were joking about it. They showed Michigan State and I someone was like they're they're playing really good ball they're just not
Starting point is 00:56:30 winning games yeah so like you do have to win the game but that also they are that like kind of lurking team where if they could put it all together and start making shots for once yeah who the fuck knows yeah knows? Yeah. I, I have my problem with this Michigan state teams. I think the teams in the past, the Michigan state teams in the past that have had those runs that have not necessarily been seated high, but have like last year seems a seven seed. They make the sweet 16, right? And they, they didn't make the lead. Yeah. They made the sweet 16. They lost to Kansas state in the garden. Yeah, that's right. Um, but they beat Marette, who was a very good team last year.
Starting point is 00:57:06 And they beat Marquette in the second round. And it sort of felt like we got a little taste of Izzo in March. Every other team, I felt like there have been stretches through the season where Michigan State has shown the promise. And then they just put it together in March. I don't feel like this year's team has really ever shown that.
Starting point is 00:57:21 There's been no point in watching Michigan State this year where I'm like, this feels like a team that can go on a run in March. That's the biggest difference is they feel, they felt disjointed the entire season, starting with when they lost to the Dukes to open the season. Yeah, I remember that game. It's very funny looking at this Michigan State team because like if you look at like the Ken Palm and the Bartorvik and like they're they're analytically you know a top 25 team but you're right they never they never had that one stretch where you're like ooh
Starting point is 00:57:51 Michigan State watch out for them they had like a couple what did they beat no they didn't beat Purdue did they? They beat Illinois at home. Illinois that was like their big one and then they then they beat Penn State Michigan after that which, which neither one of those teams are all that great. And then they turned around and lost three in a row. So when you see them at their best, yes, it wouldn't shock. Like, if you get Michigan State at their best, they can hang with anybody. I mean, we saw it in the Big Ten tournament.
Starting point is 00:58:19 They were right there with Purdue. But I haven't seen consistent. And obviously, to go on runs in an in-state tournament, you have to string together multiple good games. I haven't really consistent and obviously to go on runs in the state tournament You have to string together multiple good games. I haven't really seen that for Michigan State this year, so I don't know I but it is it is his own March and as much as like is oh haters want to say he's won one National title and it's been a while since he's been a final four and all that It's not that is oh goes to the final four every year. It's that you have situations like last year They had no business beating Marquette.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Marquette was very much a better team than Michigan State. And on that night, you thought the seeds were flipped around. So Izzo's really good at that. He doesn't always have the best team, but it does seem like every time March rolls around, that is the best version that Michigan State can possibly be. I just think that this year's team, their best version isn't really that good.
Starting point is 00:59:07 It's a great way to go through life though. If you can somehow reach a point where you chronically set the bar very low for yourself and then outperform those expectations, then people are always happy with you. And then people are like, oh, you're a great coach. Good job. That's pretty much what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Yeah, he's doing a great job with that. Another coach, big story in the region of drama. Long Beach State. Dan Montes. Yes. So I'm obsessed with the story because he's saying he got fired and then he's like, yeah, can I still coach? Like, yeah, I guess, I guess you can still coach even though you're fired. And then he just keeps winning. And my, I hope that if, if they can somehow pull off the upset, if Arizona has, I'll put it this way, it's not necessarily like if Arizona has a bad night, if Long Beach State, because they play really fast, they're like one of the
Starting point is 00:59:49 fastest paced teams, but they just don't score that much. But if they, if they're- And that's also really bad to go against Arizona. Arizona, if you wanna play fast with Arizona, Arizona will just out Arizona. They love that. I think the over under is like 160, 163, something like that. But if they can under is like 160 163 something like that
Starting point is 01:00:11 But if they can make shots if they can score yeah, and they beat Arizona you have to hire that guy, right? You have to rehire. You have to rehire Dan Munson. Yeah, uh Jake's storyline I don't know if you we didn't talk about this on Sunday Dan Munson was a the head coach of Gonzaga Yeah, you should never have left. He hired. I think he technically hired Tommy Lloyd But but Lloyd never coached with him because he left for Minnesota. Which was a failure. Then Mark Few takes over and then Tommy Lloyd becomes Mark Few. Yeah. There's an alternate world where Dan Munson just stays at Gonzaga. And he, cause he kind of was the start of Gonzaga. Right. And then left for Minnesota. And then that
Starting point is 01:00:41 failed and then Gonzaga just continued to be Gonzaga. Yeah. Arizona last year lost to Princeton and Jake and I talked about it a lot. It's like the the biggest upset in college or in March Madness history that nobody remembers because it happened on the same day as Purdue losing. Yeah. But Arizona it is interesting because they they feel like a program under Tommy Lloyd that has they've racked up a ton of wins. There's there's a lot of promise in the program but they are sort of they have underperformed in the NCAA tournament the last few years. With the Final Four being in Arizona, they are in a region that's wide
Starting point is 01:01:13 open. There aren't a lot of West Coast, I mean you look at the top seeds, it's Baylor's I guess in Texas, but Bama and Carolina, like there aren't, when they play, if they get to the Sweet 16, they're playing in LA, they're probably gonna have some home court advantage. It does feel like a great draw for Arizona, but they can't get out of their own way. Yeah. And both this particular team and them
Starting point is 01:01:37 under Tommy Lloyd the last few years, they are the kings of beating themselves. So I don't think they're gonna lose to Long Beach, but who the hell knows what's going to happen with Arizona? Because they were number one in the country at one point this year. Yeah, I would love to see Long Beach win, but I think it's going to be a blowout.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I think Arizona's going to crush them. This is, though, if you're filling out your bracket, I feel like this is the region that you take a shot. Yeah. Because I think it's going to be a mess no matter what. So it's like there's going gonna be very few people who get this Portion of the bracket correct that you might as well take this I completely agree I think this is the if there's a double digit seed if there's a six or higher seed
Starting point is 01:02:13 What are higher whatever your line is where you're like, that's crazy. I can't believe they're in the final four I think it's coming out of the West which is why I got really crazy with my bracket I picked Arizona to make the final four. Love it. Wow guys. See a lot of a lot of people think one seed I was going to on that. Yeah. What do you think about New Mexico? I like New Mexico. New Mexico's good.
Starting point is 01:02:30 They play defense. They like to run too. They have the story, which I don't know how much that matters, but the pedigree of Patino and Mashburn. I love that. Yeah. I love the idea of that.
Starting point is 01:02:42 It is so weird though, cause the Mountain West, as you know, Dan, we never trusted the Mountain West for years and years. Rightfully so. I don't think the Mountain West even had a good tournament last year, but San Diego State made the national champion. So like as a conference, I think it was one team had a good run and that's all it really takes is now, now all of a sudden the Mountain
Starting point is 01:02:59 West has six teams in and I like all of them. I think they're all very good. No, yeah. The Mountain West usually is just, they're bad in the tournament. It's just a fact. And then San Diego State kind of corrected that for them. But remember we had, I think it was two years ago when the Mountain West had four teams in and they were out by like three o'clock on Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. And they, what the fuck just happened? I remember, was Colorado State like Michigan? I remember there was like a college, David Roddy who was like a fucking bowling ball. I love him. I love that Colorado State like Michigan I remember there's like a college David Roddy who's like a fucking bowling ball I love I love that Colorado State team
Starting point is 01:03:27 I think they were playing Michigan in the first right it was like a 611 game And I was like that's an upset that's an obvious in Michigan beat the fuck out of him if I remember right maybe It was a close game, but I Every time I talk myself into Mountain West teams they let me down, but New Mexico. I think has a great draw I mean Clemson Has Clemson came out of the gates hot they they have PJ Hall is a great player and and obviously they have a good team But they're not they're not playing their best basketball right now and New Mexico kind of is Baylor. I don't think really guards that well So yeah, I think New Mexico has a great draw for sure. I have them going to the sweet 16
Starting point is 01:04:02 What about your champion last year, Alabama? Sure, I have them going to the sweet 16 out of ooh, what about your champion last year, Alabama? Uh Al of they they are definitively worse than they were last year. So that gives me pause They don't guard anybody like they're very So soft at the rim Florida was yeah lay up after lay up after lay up on them And it's not that they don't guard anybody. It's that they're okay with not guarding anybody. I think that rubs me the wrong It's not like they're a team that like Kentucky doesn don't guard anybody, it's that they're okay with not guarding anybody. I think that rubs me the wrong way. It's not like they're a team that, like Kentucky doesn't really guard anybody, but it sort of feels like John Calipari is losing his mind over that. And he's trying everything to get them to guard.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Oh, he's got tweaks by the way. Oh yeah, I saw that. Yeah. He's got some tweaks. He's got some tweaks. Like, I think, I think Cal looks at his team and is like, we have to figure this defense out. He just can't quite fully do it. Nate Oates is like, fuck it. I like my team. We're just going to outscore everybody, which I would like a lot more in a seven game series.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I don't like it in a one and done series. But it's hard to match Alabama. I mean, when they get up and down, everybody on the floor has a green light. If you catch them on the right night, you think you're seeing the best team in college basketball, but I just don't they don't have the top end They don't have a Brandon Miller their best players mark Sears. Who's a good player? I don't know how many NBA minutes he'll even get in his career. So like that's what worries me about Bama's
Starting point is 01:05:17 I don't think they have the top in talent and they don't have the defense So st. Mary's Alabama second round upset alert Yeah, it could be I mean that is That is about as much of a stylistic clash as you can get in college basketball. So yeah, if St. Mary's can slow it down and frustrate Alabama. Does St. Mary's have an Australian player this year I can get behind?
Starting point is 01:05:34 They have to. They always. They have to, right? They always. I need an Aussie that I need to be like, I'm obsessed with that guy. Yeah, they always do. All right, so and then the opposite of the West going to the East, the most loaded.
Starting point is 01:05:48 What did Rosting call that one? That's the region of gladiators. Gladiators. You know why? Because he likes the movie Gladiators. Yeah. It is a crazy region because you have the number one overall seed in UConn and then you have like, if you look at just analytically speaking like Auburn
Starting point is 01:06:05 Illinois and Iowa State are all top 15 teams all Grouped in that bracket obviously you kind of have to play all of them because Illinois and Iowa State would actually meet before that But they got a tough like you can't got a tough draw I'm not I mean you cons better than everyone but they got a tough draw and everyone's looking at it being like Auburn's playing great ball Illinois can Illinois has two guys that Everyone is gonna have a problem with in Damascus and Terrence Shannon. Yeah, and Iowa State just whooped the fuck out of Houston Yeah, all four of them won their conference tournaments, which where where are we on that? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a bad thing. Yeah, I think it's a good
Starting point is 01:06:41 I think it's not as bad as people want to make it This is my favorite time of year because everyone tries to find the key recipe to, like the famous one is everyone's like, you know, top 20 in offensive efficiency, top 20 in defensive efficiency on Ken Palm. That's the only teams that have ever won a title. A lot of the times people are tweeting that using the end of the Ken Palm rankings. After they just went on a national championship run. Yeah. So of course they're top 20 because they literally just won six games against tournament teams. Yeah. And if you look at it in the past, there's been
Starting point is 01:07:14 many, many outliers like that, that have not met both of those. I've even seen people throwing out like top 40 and top 22. Like, well, what happens changing it all these ways? Like there's no, there's no key to it. You want a team that's good on offense and defense, but if you think there's a formula, there isn't. Yeah, you figure out the formula based on the past and then someone wins it that doesn't fit the formula and instead of just being like, all these formulas are stupid, you say, okay, well let's just tweak the formula.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Well, let's throw them in with the mix and then tweak the formula. And then there's always the formula and everyone's like, you know, there'll be like 20 out of the last 21 just because 2014 UConn doesn't meet any formula. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you're like, but wait, they just won the title. Instead of going, well, maybe the formulas don't matter, you just put a little asterisk.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Maryland in 02, I remember, was the, they had no McDonald's All-Americans. And Maryland was like going through in 02 it was like I don't know if you can win a national championship if you don't have a McDonald's All-American um and then they did and then everyone's like okay so maybe you can all right so all right we got that and it's like formula to Gary Williams just break basketball and we've seen that with coaches too where it's like uh Jay Wright can't get over the hump and then he does it's like okay so Jay Wright you're now one of the good coaches will add you to the mix. Now we trust Jay Wright in March. Tony Bennett, you're the new guy that can't do
Starting point is 01:08:29 it. Okay. Now we, now we trust you. Okay. Even, even the 12 15 where, or 12 five matchup where everyone's like, you gotta have a bunch of 12s since 2015, uh, the 12s are nine and 23 against five. And then if you look at the six 11, six, uh, 11 seeds are 17 and 15 against six seeds. That's the news. Like that's the yeah, but it's just all these things that we try to put in our head and it really like they, they're all just like shape shifted for your, here's the perfect bracket. And 11 seed is just a really good 12 seed. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Except you can. Yeah. That one this year, they're all bid steal yeah, except you can yeah, that's not one this year
Starting point is 01:09:05 They're all bid Steelers all 411 seats. Yeah penciled them in there What's funny about this is if you can twist it any way you want like if you can loses and they lose to? like a conference champion you can be like Championship fatigue for you con and then if they win then you can be like, okay Well, no actually winning your conference championship is good. Right. It puts you on a roll. So the bottom line is we're not going to learn anything about that debate from this region because we're going to have one conference champion that comes out of it.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Or- The rest are going to lose. Yeah, or UConn wins the national championship, the rest of the teams that won their conference tournament lose their first game. But because UConn won the national championship, the conclusion is winning conference tournaments is a good thing because we're ignoring the rest of the crop that like It made them tired or you know, I'm trying to find Bruce Pearl cried at the end of the SEC tournament He was he was weeping maybe maybe that was too much emotion. I'm trying to find the stat
Starting point is 01:09:55 I saw a stat where it's like the the conference champion is It really doesn't matter if you win or not The only thing that actually matters is if you lost in the first round of your conference. Yeah, right, that's the only, if you lose the first game, you won't win the national championship. Right, that's the indicator. So it's like, and I saw a stat where it's basically like
Starting point is 01:10:13 the final four is usually made up of teams that either won it, their conference championship, or at least were in the semi-final or final. Last year I went galaxy brain and I thought I really had something. Boy, I was so convinced that I thought if you're a crazy coach, you can't win a national championship. I thought if you're like a coach known for being insane on the sidelines and my rationale
Starting point is 01:10:34 because I went back and I looked through all the coaches like Bob Knight won some, but that was so long ago that it didn't factor into modern college basketball. I was like, there must be something too when the pressure is high, it's a tie game at the under four timeout, there's nerves setting in and guys are all over, you need a calming influence in the huddle, you can't have a guy who's spaz dick and yelling at guys and motherfucking guys. You need a guy that's calling,
Starting point is 01:10:58 and then Dan Hurley won the national championship. No, Dan Hurley won the national championship. That's because his dad was sitting behind him telling him when to use timeouts. The one thing you could say about UConn is it has been 10 years since the number one overall seed has won the national title and 20 years since we've had a back-to-back. Yeah. So that would be the only thing or about 20 years.
Starting point is 01:11:13 But still UConn can do it all like they can do it all. 10 years was... Wait, wait 10 years. Who won the last... who was the last number one overall seed? Uh... Let's see. It was probably Kentucky, right? Anthony Davis? Oh, yeah, you met over 10 years. Yeah. Yeah, yeah over 10 years, who won the last, who was the last NoRona World seed? Uh, let's see, it was probably Kentucky, right? Anthony Davis? Oh yeah, you met over 10 years, yeah. Yeah, yeah, over 10 years.
Starting point is 01:11:28 So I was like, yeah, UConn 2014 was not. Yeah, it was probably, or who won 2013? Well, Louisville won, but they didn't. Yeah, Louisville with the asterisk. Yeah, I mean like, 09 North Carolina, we went into the tournament, they were so clearly a cut above everybody else, and you're but it's March you never know you never know then they beat the fuck out of it killed everyone so this this region are you
Starting point is 01:11:54 just going Yukon yeah I I do think the Yukon Auburn game could get really good the reason Yukon beyond just like the simplistic they are the best team the reason you trust UConn in March and what they have demonstrated throughout the season is that UConn has a plan A they have a plan B they have a plan C they have a plan D they can beat you in all sorts of ways and you don't have to look any further than just like the Marquette game in the Big East championship when they couldn't hit a shot to start the game and they still play great defense. They still,
Starting point is 01:12:28 uh, I, I, you can't fans will say it's Tristan Newton and I, I agree with them, but also you could conceivably, just like you could last year with Yukon, you could have a debate about who the best player on the team is because it depends on certain factors of certain games and all that. Um, and for that reason, that's why you believe in UConn. It's not just that they are beating everybody and it's not just like you look at their record and you're like, oh, they won it last year, they're the number one, let's just go with them.
Starting point is 01:12:54 When you think about how these games will shake out, Auburn, Jani Broom's a great player and Auburn plays great defense and maybe that turns into a rock fight. We can trust UConn in that game. If UConn meets Illinois in the Elite Eight and Illinois wants to get up and down and they have, you know, Taron Shannon and Marcus Damascus hitting everything, I can trust UConn in that game.
Starting point is 01:13:15 And that's the reason I really, really like UConn is that they can adjust to whatever the game becomes. And Auburn, they kind of dispelled it with the SEC tournament, but the big bugaboo about Auburn going into the SEC tournament was a way they were not as good. Right. And they will be playing, if they play UConn in the Sweet 16, it will be in Boston.
Starting point is 01:13:35 The one thing- UConn does have basically a home game. This isn't me being an Auburn hater, this is just trying to really take everything into account. They're run to the SEC Championship, they didn't have to play the other Top the other top teams so Auburn looked great on the run to the SEC championship But it wasn't like they went through Tennessee and Kentucky and Bama to do it
Starting point is 01:13:56 Which doesn't take anything away from them It's just a little bit of context where it's like alright Is that is that part of it too because Illinois I Illinois looks awesome and Illinois was down 10 every game They played in the Big Ten tournament and comes came back and went Aaron Shannon. Junior is like the best scorer in the country right now He's on a tear but I didn't realize that Illinois has not beaten a currently ranked team all season Hmm, like Illinois. Huh? Yeah that that gave me pause where I was like they lost both games to Purdue They lose both games to Purdue. They lose both games to Purdue. The teams they beat, like Wisconsin was good,
Starting point is 01:14:28 but it's not. But they weren't ranked when they beat us. Yeah, and have we seen Illinois go on a, I think they played Arizona. Arizona beat them. They beat FAU, but FAU, and at the time, it felt like something. But FAU hasn't had a great year. They didn't play Arizona.
Starting point is 01:14:41 That was last year. Oh, they beat, they beat, they beat Tennessee, or they lost to Tennessee. Tennessee, Tennessee's the same. And they lost to Marquette as year. Oh they beat Tennessee or they lost to Tennessee. And they lost to Marquette as well. Yeah so yeah they lost at home to Marquette. Can you dumb it down a little bit for us? Are they frauds? Are you saying they're fraudulent? Yeah why not? Okay cool. Yeah sure that's what we want to say. Yeah it's but that's the context you need those because you're like Illinois won the big 10 so they Yeah, it's it's but but that's the that's the context you need those because you're like, Illinois won the big ten So they they must have beaten
Starting point is 01:15:06 They're the best team in the big ten and I guess technically they are but I would feel a lot more comfortable about Illinois If part of their path to the big ten title was they beat Purdue by like ten, you know And yeah, her friend Tom Frinelli was mad about their seating. He actually texted me big cat Hank that he was mad online He said that in 2021, Illinois won the Big 10, is a one seed, and got Loyola in the second round. Loyola was ranked ninth by Ken Palm. We know what happened. 2022, Illinois was a four seed, got the three seed,
Starting point is 01:15:34 Houston in the second round. Houston was ranked fourth by Ken Palm. The fix was in. Now this year, Illinois is a three seed. BYU is the sixth seed. Not only is BYU 16th in Ken Palm, but they've admitted that BYU is a five seed, but they had to bump it to a six
Starting point is 01:15:48 because it can't play on Sunday. And who do they decide to give BYU to? That's right, Illinois, the committee. The committee hates Illinois. Does the committee hate Illinois? Yeah, I mean, it's right there. You just spelled it out. Yeah, it's plain as day.
Starting point is 01:16:00 They do, kind of, Illinois has to get to the second weekend. Like Brad Underwood has been flirting with it it and they've had some really good teams. I feel like they got to make a little run here. I cannot believe that they haven't been since 05. That's one of the things that I, even when I am reminded of it, I have to take a second and be like, it's been since 2005? They've been to the Sweet 16? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And they do have like, I'm a big believer in the tournament Especially like if you can say definitively you have the best player on the court Yeah Like those are the teams I will trust because it always comes down to end of game Who's gonna get you a bucket and Terrence Shannon should be the best player on the court for most of the games they play right? Be why use a terrible matchup though and because BYU has length, they are very well coached. I would feel, if I was an Illinois fan I'd be very frustrated by that. And like you said, the committee literally did say, we think BYU deserves a five seed,
Starting point is 01:16:57 but we can't play them on Sunday. That is very funny. That's crazy to me. It's crazy that school can just be like, yeah, we're not going to play on this day of the week. And the NCAA tournament committee is like, yeah, we don't we're not gonna play on this day of the week Yeah, and then the NCAA tournament committee is like yeah fair enough We'll just change your seat which I guess the only saving grace is Duquesne is definitely not an 11 seed So they at least they kind of corrected it there
Starting point is 01:17:13 We're like they're they're almost playing a 512 matchup And I think they think that they're I don't know if punishing is the right word But it's like all right if BYU if you don't want to play on Sunday, you're we're gonna knock you down a seed We're not gonna knock you up a seed Yeah, and they think that that's the fix and it kind's like alright if BYU if you don't want to play on Sunday you're we're gonna knock you down a seed we're not gonna knock you up a seed yeah and they think that that's the fix and it kind of is in for BYU but it's unfair if you want to call it unfair I do think that like if you're if you're a team that's really spending a lot of time trying to figure out if you got a fair draw in the tournament you're not a serious national title contender yeah
Starting point is 01:17:41 like you the attitude for the serious national title contenders are like fuck fuck it, we'll play anybody anywhere. We'll beat their ass. Because the tournament turns into just such a random series of who you end up playing against. Yeah, and who's hot on the right day. But I do feel for Illinois fans, because BYU, everybody they put on the floor seeming like 6'5 or taller, and they're all 26 years old. Yeah. I actually don't know that, but that's how most BYU teams are. They have a big boy, too, on BYU. They've got a DJ Burns type dude that's a wrecking ball. I love that.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It's fun to watch. Arizona State should be like, we are not allowed to play on Fridays because we party too much. That's our holiday. Yeah. I think they do. That's why they're not in the tournament. OK, so you have Yukon coming out of this region.
Starting point is 01:18:26 So Yukon in Arizona is your left half of the bracket. I took a shot at a I like the Drake. I like the idea of Drake going on a run too. Yeah. So Drake's my Cinderella of this tournament. So I crossed it out four different times, but I have Drake in my lead eight, just because I felt like I should pick one team to,
Starting point is 01:18:49 one crazy team in the lead eight, and Drake was my pick. So Drake's my, the Drake Washington State game is one to watch in the first round. I think both teams are awesome, and I think that's gonna be a great game. But I think Drake playing Iowa State, if Drake can be Washington State playing Iowa State and having the in-state thing going on and
Starting point is 01:19:06 They're gonna have that like you said earlier Dan They're gonna have the best player on the floor and that game with Tucker DeVries So that's my that's my team to watch that's the team I believe in they have unfinished business last year They had Miami. I don't want to say on the ropes, but they they were they were up at halftime They were up deep into the second half Let that slip away Miami goes to the final for Tucker DeVries their best player was one for 13 in that game I think they have unfinished business and I like the idea of Drake going on a run Yeah, I did too isn't somebody had Drake related to somebody here at Barstool. Yeah, Kyle Connor in right the point guard
Starting point is 01:19:38 Yeah, brother Kyle is our what does he do here Jake? He's part of Lisa's team on the live events side. Oh, yeah He's great. You remember last year? No I know Kyle. Yeah his brother Connor hit the game winner against Indiana State. Yeah that was awesome. Okay so Drake's or Cinderella. What's the opposite of Cinderella?
Starting point is 01:19:53 I guess that'd be. Purdue. That'd be what? Like Wicked's stepmother? Wicked, yeah. Who's the Wicked's stepmother this tournament? Actually that sounds kind of hot. Yeah that does.
Starting point is 01:20:03 So what is that? The team that fucks it up? Yeah. Um, the good team that's going to choke. Hmm. Well, I mean, it would have to be Iowa State because I haven't losing to Drake in the second round. I have North Carolina, North Carolina, I think is the most susceptible one seed.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Yeah. Because they are, they are heavily reliant on Armando. Like they have two identities. One is let Armando Baycott do everything for us, which is a problem on Armando like they have two identities one is Let Armando Baycott do everything for us Which is a problem because Armando Baycott is a big guy And it's you know it's not 1971 and you can't really play through a guy like that anymore and also He's not he's just not that good. He's more of like a rim runner and no so someone said that in the gambling cave on Saturday They're like are we sure Armando Baycott's that good and was like, well, he's been in college for six years,
Starting point is 01:20:46 so I'd say probably not. Yeah, probably not. Like, he would have gone to the NBA. But you look up his run at North Carolina, and he's the all-time leading rebounder, and he's averaged all sorts of points. And you're like, he's kind of good, though. But you don't want to run your offense through him.
Starting point is 01:20:59 So this year, RJ Davis is having an incredible year, is going to be a first team All-American. He's the reason they're a one seed. I think R.J. Davis is awesome, but R.J. Davis is like 5'11", six foot. And if your whole offense is like, we need R.J. Davis to score 35 points, I don't love the idea of that either.
Starting point is 01:21:16 So I think they're the most susceptible one. The problem with like picking them to lose is who's going to beat them. I guess you could talk yourself into Michigan State in the second round, whatever, but the West is kind of wide open. So yeah, Mark Titus has been brought to you by visible draining a half court buzzer beater to win the game. Not easy switching to visible and saving on wireless with no hidden fees. Yeah, that's pretty easy. Switch to visible to the wireless company with nothing to hide
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Starting point is 01:22:56 Purdue number one seed. Yep. I I Still don't trust Purdue, but I do think they have a pretty decent bracket. The problem with that region is who do you trust in that region? It's a different problem from the West, which is the West, I just don't like the teams. I like some of the jerseys. I like North Carolina. I like Michigan State.
Starting point is 01:23:18 I like Arizona's programs. They can do it. They've done it before. The Midwest, I like the teams. I like Purdue. I like Tennessee. I like Creighton I like all three of those teams those if you can like make a list of three teams that are Known to never get over the hump. Yeah, I was like going to the final four It's those three teams rusting call this the region of tension because every team is like I hope we don't fuck this up I I'll tell you what the the
Starting point is 01:23:44 Oregon I keep going back to, just because I think Dana Altman's one of the most underrated coaches in NCAA basketball. Fun fact, he's never lost a first round game. Yeah, he's got an incredible tournament record. He always, he might be the new Tom Izzo, in that he, like, every year, it's like, Oregon's in the sweet 15 again?
Starting point is 01:24:00 You think he's dead, and he's not dead, yeah. Yeah, and they were dead. I mean, they were a bid stealer. I also, people, this is another 12 five where I feel like everyone's trying to get Gonzaga because they have a down year in terms of Zaga. I'm not falling into that. I wanted to just bring up, um, the funniest, uh, season, uh, for McNeese state McNeese state non-conference schedule. I don't know if you guys took a look at this. Let me just list a couple of these teams. They beat Biblical Studies 96-55.
Starting point is 01:24:31 They beat Champion Christian 110-46. They beat a school called Le Tourneau. L-E-T-O-U-R-N-E-A-U. Le Tourneau. Okay, so French. They beat a French school, 81 49 and the big one that they absolutely dominated. They want to game 92 to 23 against Mississippi university for women. Oh, I love that. Yeah. It's, it's when they show the score, the way they beat
Starting point is 01:25:02 them by so much, maybe they played the women when they show the score is it like Mississippi University of Women parentheses men. It's so funny like Yeah, I did a deep dive into that school. It looks great. Yeah deep dive in the Mississippi We're letting men it men in I think like 86 they go by the W now Honestly a sick name for a school. Yeah, that is cool. Yeah They got plenty of men's sports though because I thought maybe it could have been one dude Yeah, what an easy pitch for a recruit like okay, you're not getting recruited by like, you know a premier program Do you want to come to my women's college? Yeah, just chicks everywhere. Oh, yeah, I do the owl Mississippi University for women. I love that. Yeah, it's just a hilarious
Starting point is 01:25:41 schedule for McNeese State, but though they are they do feel like one of the 12 teams that everyone's kind of picking yeah, I don't I don't I'm gonna for what you just pointed out one the schedule to I think will wait as one foot out the door already I think will wait has spent a lot of a contract extension. He also was just on wake up mincy. That's true Did mincy ask him that are you leaving McNeese? I wonder it's so funny cuz because you can get a contract extension, and then your school feels happy about it. But do you really feel happy?
Starting point is 01:26:09 Yeah, if you're not, because I'm sure his whatever the buyout, I'm sure, yeah, that doesn't. I don't think that McNeese can afford a huge buyout. Right, right. So I don't think. Yeah, they're paying money to Mississippi University of Women for a buy game. But yeah, McNeese, they're not a good free throw shooting team,
Starting point is 01:26:27 which I think that's important. If you're, if you're trying to pull off an upset in March madness, uh, you gotta, when you're up by five with a minute left and the other team starts fouling, like you gotta ice the game at the free throw line. I don't trust them there. Uh, they also, I think Ken Palm, that was, I think I saw that on kid palm that, that McNeese has one of the highest three point attempt per, stick with me, the teams that play McNeese shoot a ton of threes because McNeese lets them shoot threes.
Starting point is 01:26:54 They have one of the highest ratios of shots that their defense gives up is threes. Gonzaga shoots threes well. So Gonzaga, the way McNeese plays defense is they're like, go ahead, shoot threes on us. We're gonna trust that you're gonna miss them. And they have through the season because they are playing women
Starting point is 01:27:09 and they are playing the- The ultimate by game BI. But they're gonna play a team in Gonzaga that's not gonna miss three. And Gonzaga, for having like a reputation for not being able to win in March somehow, Mark Few, just cause he hasn't won a national title Gonzaga hasn't lost a first round game since 2008 when they lost to Steph Curry
Starting point is 01:27:29 and Davidson yeah so and I think that was like a 710 game if I remember I think Davidson yeah they were 10 they would say was constant yeah yeah Davidson was a 10 yeah so that can say a team yeah I I don't know like I everyone's just kind of enamored with McNeese winning 30 games and Will Wade being the coach. And they can shoot threes well, but that's not the 12-5 that I'm looking at. Yeah, the team that I love in this region, which again, I fill myself with stats,
Starting point is 01:27:58 and then they'll probably lose by 20 because Kansas will somehow become healthy and Bill Self is an incredible coach. But I do love Sanford and Bucky Ball where they just chuck threes and they have the opportunity to capture the hearts of America. Just the way they play basketball.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Yeah, that's a more attractive pick to me than McNeese. But yeah, but it is interesting to have Kansas and Gonzaga right there in both teams. How lucky are both those programs? Because both these teams kind of suck for their standards and they're still four and five seats. That pisses me off. It's like the worst team Bill sells ever had. And it's forcing the NCAA tournament. Yeah. Uh, what about, what about Tennessee? What about my volunteers? Tell me something good about
Starting point is 01:28:38 my volunteers. I love Tennessee. I hate that they lost in the first round of the conference tournament. Cause they got the shit kicked out. Yeah. So I, if I was picking a team to get over the hump this season, it was Tennessee. Like if there was a breakthrough team, you know, the Rick Barnes and March thing, but Matt Painter and March, like you have all those coaches that you're certain can't get it done in March. And I had to pick one of them to buck that narrative.
Starting point is 01:29:04 It was going to be Rick Barnes because of Dalton Connect. I just don't love that they got their asses kicked in the first round of the conference. I had Michigan's or Mississippi State. I mean that was a boat race. They gave a fuck out of it. Yeah. It wasn't ever closed. Let's talk about that loss because is it something that you think is like a systemic problem with Tennessee? Did they get exposed? I think Dalton Connect is the most electric guy in college basketball.
Starting point is 01:29:28 But I think Dalton Connect, I do worry if Dalton Connect understands what the score and the time is at any point in the game. He feels like a guy that just has one thought going through his head, and it's get buckets. And he's kind of a stylistic clash to what the rest of Tennessee's team's trying to do. And I find that slightly, like for most of the season I thought that was a good thing
Starting point is 01:29:51 because that's what this team has needed to get over a hump, is you need a guy that can go get you a bucket and Tennessee hasn't had that for a while, but sometimes you watch them and they feel very disjointed because of that, because they're not all on the same page, they're not all cohesive. Dalton Konek does rule on offense. He sucks defensively. And this is a team that's like a, to play great defense as a team, you do need five guys. You can't just have like a couple guys
Starting point is 01:30:14 that are locked down guys in college basketball. So I don't know. I still try, I have Tennessee going to the final four still. I still think they're gonna come out of the region because I do think that this is the year Rick Barnes breaks through, but I'm way more concerned now than I was like a month ago for sure. Are you concerned at all?
Starting point is 01:30:31 As a fan of Purdue losing, I know you love it when Purdue loses. Are you concerned that you're not going to get that joy this year? They're going to lose at some point. The problem is I think they're going to probably, it feels the most likely scenarios like they lose in the final four and it's still a W for Purdue fans. Yeah, that's a big dub. Yeah, they still get their W, but then the Purdue haters are trying to celebrate
Starting point is 01:30:52 because they didn't win the national title. But Purdue fans, like we don't give a fuck. They haven't been in a final four since 1980, and they've won a thousand Big Ten championships. And since then, they've been the one seed all sorts of times, or been like a top three seed. I don't remember what the Glenn Robinson years what they received it but and they've been to a handful of lead eights. I think this Purdue team is better. The reason for optimism if you're a Purdue fan is this team is definitively
Starting point is 01:31:18 better than last year. They are better three point shooting team. Last year's team wasn't a great three point shooting team. Lance Jones is a wrinkle on this year's team that that makes them a lot better. My problem is they are they are the exact same style of basketball. They play the exact same way as they played last year and uh I just don't I don't I don't know how you can not learn from your mistakes last year which is like every time you catch the ball you're looking to post feed Zach Eadie. I don't understand how that's the way you're going about winning games in 2024. So that's my concern with Purdue is they are the same team,
Starting point is 01:31:50 but they are better. So depending on which way you want to look at it, they're not going to lose to the 16. I think they're going to beat the 16. I think they're going to get over the hump and beat the 16 seed this year. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Can you explain to me as an outsider, because I'm not from the Midwest. You're from Indiana. You're intimately familiar with Purdue, and the type of people that go there, and the type of people that that university produces. There's a lot of hate towards, like, I know why Dukes hated.
Starting point is 01:32:13 They're like a national brand of hatred. I know why A&M is weird. I know how they're a cult. And we know that reputation. But what is it about Purdue that makes you hate them? They are humorless goobers. They are... 75% dudes.
Starting point is 01:32:28 They have, 75% dudes. That's not an actual step, but I know it's close. It kinda is, you walk around campus. It should be the Purdue University of Men. Yeah, it's dudes everywhere. Yeah, pretty much. They have the demeanor of nerds, but not the intelligence. They're nice. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:42 That makes sense. I get that. Yeah. They're nice people. Like, they're not, they're not like, I'm not nice. Oh, okay, yeah. That makes sense. I get that, yeah. They're nice people. They're not, I'm not like all these assholes, but it's just, yeah, it's goobers. They're goobers, they're dorks, they're, it's something that I've had people that aren't from Indiana, I've taken them to West Lafayette
Starting point is 01:32:58 for Purdue basketball games, and I don't prime them for it. I'm not like, tell me your thoughts on the Purdue people. I'm just like, I sit back, let them go, and then I then I asked him I'm like what do you think about the pretty people? They're like are they kind of? Like is it the best describe it is they're kind of caught caught in no-man's land where they're closer to like Northwestern than they realize yeah, but their sports are better Yeah, and so but they're not even close to like the party big ten schools like Michigan State, Wisconsin, Iowa, Indiana
Starting point is 01:33:26 Right, but like so they're caught in this weird like spot where they're kind of don't have an identity. They kind of don't yeah they also have an inferiority complex with a superiority complex at the same time somehow it makes no sense, but they Yeah, they they know they're gonna fuck it up in March But then they also puff their chest and they're like you hate Zack Eady cuz you're jealous and everyone's like I promise you I do Not want if there's one thing I do not want from my basketball team is to watch this fucking bullshit Every single night out on the basketball court. They're like you're just jealous because he's he's kind of Shaq plus Hakeem And you're just jealous of it. It's like we're not jealous I don't know it's they're a tough breed to peg like the infuriate complex
Starting point is 01:34:06 It's like that's why they have that big-ass drum is overcompensating for something. Yeah, they get big players Yeah, yeah, I just have small dick and they also The best thing they had going for them was the free hot dogs at Jake's and that yeah Oh like five years ago Yeah, that kind of ruined it because I I've been to West Lafayette a few times I was like well they got a place that has free hot dogs That's you can you could have a good time to West Lafayette a few times and I was like, well, they got a place that has free hot dogs. That's you can. You could have a good time in West Lafayette, but the good time you're having just makes you think of the other college campus you'd rather be on having an even better time. Right. But Neil Armstrong. Right. Also, you know,
Starting point is 01:34:36 yeah, they got a lot of astronauts. Yeah. You have a shitload of astronauts. All right. Last region, the South region, our region bracket, you know the torture torture quadrant I've looked through the Wisconsin James Madison game in depth. I think Wisconsin's fucked. I Don't stop it. Stop it big cat. No, I have I here's the thing Wisconsin doesn't defend the three well and James Madison likes shoot threes and I obviously it's very reductive reductive reductive redu. It might be reductive. It might be like who makes their threes? Yeah, who makes their threes?
Starting point is 01:35:08 Let me text Jay Billis and see if that was used correctly. Who makes their threes? Because Wisconsin, the story of the Wisconsin season is the beginning of the season, November, December, January, they're making their threes. February, they just stopped making their threes. Yeah. Went four and eight or whatever it was down the stretch.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Big 10 tournament, they started making their threes again. Looked good again. If they don't make their threes, it's going to be a terrible, terrible night for me. And I just think James Madison is a bad matchup. And I'm not saying that. The only thing I could say to be fair is that James Madison has not played a lot of good teams. They've played three teams in the top 100 in Ken Palm. They beat Michigan State, which Wisconsin beat twice, and then they lost to Appalachian State twice. So that is the only thing I'm like kind of hanging my hat on, but I'll be on, I'm being completely honest and unbiased that like, this is a bad matchup.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Are they going to be playing a good team on Friday? I guess is the question. Is Wisconsin a good team? Is Wisconsin a good team? Do we have to worry about them not playing? Are we sure? I think, I think AJ store has to be a superhero. Yeah. I think that's's the formula. I think Wisconsin is obviously you'll be the best player on the court. They're fine They are they have shown. I mean you guys were ranked what six at one point. Mm-hmm Fredell on JMU I'm worried about for you guys though I think this is I've been saying it all year about this season of college basketball It is the year of the cold-ass white boy. Yeah, if all over college basketball they're just white dudes that can light it up. And it's not just, it's not just that they score a lot. It's not that they're just catch and shoot guys. They, uh,
Starting point is 01:36:32 they just got a little sauce to their game and, uh, Noah Friedle feels like one of those guys maybe you're going to hate them so much. If you're going to fucking hate, you're going to hate that guy. I'm ready for, I'm ready for torture. They, they, they dragged me back in, but again, I'm looking at it unbiased way. If I have removed any rooting interest from this game, I would probably bet James Madison just because I think it's not a great match. What's the funniest outcome for the show? What's funny? Not just for this game, but for the Vermont Duke. How is Vermont beating Duke, Vermont beating JMU or Wisconsin? And Jake says good game. Jake apologizes to us
Starting point is 01:37:04 for winning. Yeah. Yeah. Jake shrugs your shoulders and he's good Oh, and then I think this is important to also at the same time Villanova finishing second in the United Yeah, that would be that would actually be the funniest possible outcome I think the sicko outcome is Wisconsin beating JMU and then Duke just like like boat. That's what I think We talked about this Jake on that's a sicko outcome That's right I think that in my bracket because I think we talked about this Jake on so that's a sicko outcome That's right I think that in my bracket because I think between between you two Pft is far more excited about the game and I think him he has to suffer his pain and then you start talking yourself into Wisconsin
Starting point is 01:37:34 again, and then Duke just fucks you up and then you're back to And Kyle Philpowski like it's a lose-lose for me No matter what if Wisconsin if Wisconsin loses in the first two rounds no matter what it's gonna Be pain for me. Yeah, like no matter what but can you just imagine I have allowed myself to wonder like what if what if we win? Two games where if we go what if I get an entire week of just like watching highlights from the first two games getting excited By and when the sweet 16 I just it would be probably the most electric college sports moment of my life Yeah that entire well, I asked Dan this on the yak yesterday What is the stakes of this game in terms terms of like?
Starting point is 01:38:12 Like I feel like you guys are gonna bring this game up. Whoever wins is going to reference this for I don't think But I don't I don't get to I guess the problem. Yeah I mean, okay I don't think so because me people try to divide me and big cat sometimes with things like Hank Hank especially There's a reason he's not on that couch right now But I think if big cat wins if Wisconsin wins, I'm gonna be upset I'm okay, but I'm still in the back of my head gonna be like well, that was awesome though We got to go dancing. Okay, I got to see the game
Starting point is 01:38:39 And probably the better team ended up winning, you know, and then if JMU wins I'm gonna be very happy about it. But I'm going to be more focused on just like what an electric experience it was than to like remind Big Cat of it. And unless Big Cat starts coming at me for like Commander's Bear stuff, in which case I've always got that in my back pocket. What could possibly be a bigger, this might actually divide a situation? A playoff game in the NFL would be way, way, way, way, way, way, way.
Starting point is 01:39:07 It's also going to be helpful that I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to be on the stream. So if we were both on the stream, we'd probably say some things, look at each other a certain way and then just know that it's on. But it's a lose-lose for me because James Madison is the underdog. It's a cool story. They're fucking, you know, their sports programs have been insane the last year. And people, I mean, just being honest,
Starting point is 01:39:27 people love to relish in my sadness. Like, they just are sick, sick fucks with that. That's why I think Duke beating you is the move. I think you're gonna be way sadder. The delayed sadness? Yeah, no. For ultimate sadness, it is Duke over Wisconsin. Kyle Filipowski has a couple dirty plays.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yeah, trips some people. Like, injures Chuckie Hepburn somehow. All right, so the rest of this bracket, I find myself believing in Marquette for some reason. And that's really just because I'm doing the, my bracket is basically like the Big East revenge bracket, where I have my final fours, all three Big East teams getting there. But I do, I do like Kentucky and especially cause Cal's doing his tweaks, which would be huge and Kentucky up the sleeve. You would say like if you had
Starting point is 01:40:13 to, if you had to play one game and you're like, all right, Kentucky, they have so many dudes and Reed Shepard is electric that I, you know, they can, they can beat anyone in the country because they have that style of play and they can make so many shots they have so many guys who can get a bucket you fall in love with the guards you can make their own offense and teams that have one of them you fall in love with like like I look at like Northwestern who's not really playing great basketball but they have boo-boo and I'm like if you can't plays Northwestern and boo-boo you know they're not going to but you're just kind of like I don't know man boo
Starting point is 01:40:44 boo he could score 45 points in that game and it could the guards that can make their own offense you fall in love with and you just do this time of year Kentucky has four of them yeah it's fucking four of them on their roster which might be too many I don't know that might be part of their problem is you have Dillingham and Reed Shepherd coming off the bench when both those guys might be top five picks. It's a crazy, Cal has like almost too much talent. Yeah. How many balls are there on the court? I think there's still one. Just one ball. But remember, he's got some tweaks. He's got some tweaks though. He's going to roll the
Starting point is 01:41:18 ball out there. Yeah. No, I have Kentucky in the lead eight. I think this Kentucky team's just too talented to, and it's such a it's such a high pressure year for Cal and the program What about the one seed here? Cuz I Houston we know them we know what they do. They play insane defense I probably will take Houston in the first round just because they were so bad against Iowa State it feels like they're just gonna punish the fuck out of the 16 seed and They out they rebound the fuck out of the ball, but their offense can go away at
Starting point is 01:41:48 times. I actually think Texas a and M might be live. They, they, like they, they can, they can get down and dirty and, and kind of grind it out and play low possession games because that's what I always look for with these upset is like what teams can play these low possession games where you can, you know, if you're, if you're an inferior opponent, you can basically make them have to execute in half court and things won't go as well. Yeah. And if you're talking to yourself in a and M Wade Taylor again, as one of those guards that can just go bananas and the tournament, I think Houston though is my, I don't, Houston
Starting point is 01:42:23 doesn't feel like an upset candidate to me because I think Houston is so good at just strangling inferior opponents like when they're playing a team that's not as good as them they they their defense is so fucking locked in that it's hard to they're they're not they don't really get upset that's not how they lose the issue with Houston is more when they're playing another high caliber team, do they have the individual talent to rise to that level? But they don't, like I agree that when they play longwood, they might win by 70. When they play inferior teams,
Starting point is 01:42:54 they just completely suffocate them. I have Houston win it all in my bracket. So Houston is my national champion. I probably think it should be YukConn, but it's boring. And Houston, for long stretches of the season, has looked like the best team in college basketball. They're the best team in the best conference. Iowa State definitely humbled them,
Starting point is 01:43:14 but I think Houston's defense gets all the headlines that not enough attention is paid to how good their offense actually is. And LJ Cryer and Emmanuel Sharpe can both shoot. And the idea when you watch a Houston basketball game is Like this is disgusting. This is ugly. The ball's not going through the basket. I don't think that's the case I think they I think they can score And I just don't I don't think they're gonna lose to inferior teams
Starting point is 01:43:35 And I don't think there are a lot of teams that are that are better than Houston So I ended up picking them reluctantly as national champion, but I don't know I think they proved it this year that they belong. I mean, the tear they went through in the Big 12 is impressive in year one. So I love Jamal Shedd, too. I think he's the best defender in college. He's a guy.
Starting point is 01:43:54 If we're talking about guards that can take over games, the antidote to that is having a guy like Jamal Shedd that you can just put on that guard and say, shut that guy down. And he can do that. And for that reason, I like Houston. I want to see Kentucky Houston in the 48. That would be awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Because just stylistically, just completely opposite. All right, I got one last question. Roback question, rhoback.com. Promo code take. Use it right now. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. I'm wearing the joggers right now, the most comfortable joggers in the world.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Roback.com, promo code take. All right, so if you had to say your one first round upset, we can go around the room. Who are you going to take? Okay. This is the... Also, I wanted to note I had, again, I'm just filling my head with all these stats and everything. What was the stat? I think it's, if you're filling out your bracket, since 2015, What was the stat? I think it's, if you're filling out your bracket, since 2015, I think it's two for 32, 12 and 13 seeds
Starting point is 01:44:48 getting to the Sweet 16, and one of those years was when Oregon State was a 12 and they played a 13. So a lot of people will take the 13 and 12s to win a game. Just remember that statistically the last nine, 10 years, getting to the Sweet 16 is a little different. Your one upset, PFT. To the Sweet 16. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:10 No, or just the first round. Oh, first round. What do I really like the first round? Oregon. Yeah, I like Oregon. Although, they're like only a one point dog, I think. I got two. I got Oregon and New Mexico.
Starting point is 01:45:20 New Mexico is a favorite. Oh, they are? Okay. Yeah, I was just looking at teams. They're a two point favorite. Looks like I'm just like my favorite. They're two-point favorite Come sharp. Yeah, you are You're your advanced analytics works nailed it I'm I'll probably go with Drake, but I
Starting point is 01:45:38 Actually think Akron is Drake favorite somehow Drake's not favorite. It's not favorite, I don't think. Is Drake's a point underdars? I think so. I'll look it up. Yeah, I mean Drake would be my pick too. I have him in the lead eight, so obviously I think Drake's gonna win the first round. I'll take Purdue over the 16th seed. Okay, okay. It's a big upset, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I think they do get over the hump. I like that one. Grand Canyon is the 12 I'm slowly talking myself into. It's nothing against St. Mary's. It's just Grand Canyon is so fun and and Bryce Drew is an awesome guy. I think he's a great coach and he didn't work out of Vanderbilt but I think he's a they have the pedigree to they came. They came to the tournament last year and they're kind of building some in Grand Canyon. They're on a long when you said they have the longest winning streak Jake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I know James Madison James Madison does but they have the longest winning streak, Jake? Yeah. No. James Madison. James Madison does. But they have. They've been on a tear, Grand Canyon has. So yeah, I'll pick Grand Canyon because if they can speed St. Mary's up, which is a big if, and everybody that plays St. Mary's says that. But yeah, I think Grand Canyon is a fun team. Drake is a favorite, by the way. Drake is the favorite. I was wrong. Drake is- No, that means you were sharp. Yeah, that means I was sharp, but that's not really an upset. That does bother me. I know it shouldn't. I think it's something that I wish I could correct in my own brain when an 11 seed or a 10 seed is a favorite and wins and everyone's
Starting point is 01:46:57 like the craziest upsets today. Yeah. I feel like an absolute loser to be like, well, actually they were favorites, but I can't correct it because I'm be like well actually they were favorites, but I can't correct it I'm like dude. They were favorites I think you can say that if somebody's like they shocked the world right then you can point out to them right They were favorite like New Mexico being a two-point favorite as an 11 seed and if they win that game Everyone's gonna be like holy shit. What a day and it it bought I hate myself. Yeah, I hate you I hate myself for that. I'm like team storm the court as favorites people are like well
Starting point is 01:47:25 They're favorites. Why are they storming court? Yeah, I have no problem with that. Yeah, uh cuz I'm pro Court-storming at all times. I can't undo it. Well, you can't undo the wiring in your brain I can't undo the wiring the the decades of watching the NCAA tournament and the team wearing white losing is yes That's an upset no matter what the spread says the team wearing the white jerseys if they lose That is an upset. Also, you know what the team wearing the white jerseys if they lose that is an upset also You know what they should do. I wish they would go back It's similar to the Super Bowl logos how they've ruined the Super Bowl logos because they made it so corporate Go back to the weird courts
Starting point is 01:47:54 I know like the Iowa State game always is seared in my brain when they were playing in that weird orange and blue court Boise State yeah when they were when they were two seed and lost and I'm just like go back to that Yeah, those are the memories. I want Jeff D. Lowe's a big proponent of that. I think I'm sure he is Yeah, maybe not. I don't actually the corporate Jeff loves all the weirdest parts of basketball that nobody else He noticed. Yeah. Yeah. So your final four you said Houston, Tennessee, Yukon and Arizona. Yeah, we have the same final four more Oh really fucked. Let's go. You're fucked. We have a perfect bracket I'm the biggest idiot on planet Earth so am I though okay cool a 1b We have a perfect bra I watch I think you watch too little college basketball. I watch too much
Starting point is 01:48:33 Yeah, right in the middle you're right in the middle somewhere a narrative got started that I don't watch college I don't don't I don't really understand like I okay I watch I watch probably five college basketball games a week before March. No, I didn't mean for it to be a personal attack. I'm sorry if it's coming off as a defensive against you. You're sounding like a Purdue fan right now. There really are. You can't take a joke.
Starting point is 01:48:53 I've just had like three people tell me that in the last week. I was like, I don't know. I don't know how much am I supposed to be watching. No, the problem is I watch too much. Yeah. I mean, it's fair to say no one is coming to PFT Commenter for their bracket picks, right? Correct.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Yeah, that's fair. That's all I'm saying is you're not a guy who watches a ton to where everyone's like, I want to know what PFT has to say. I kind of am. And I think it's on the bell curve, I think the guys who win are in the middle. I like that.
Starting point is 01:49:17 I've watched too much, you've watched too little. Yeah, I think that's the narrative that's just based on the fact that I watch an unhealthy amount of college sports. You watch a regular amount His lock of the day when we were doing our parlay was what University of Texas Arlington? Yeah fucking against dude against who? They were playing who they playing I Can't remember but it was such a great game fuck it was an awesome game Oh Tarleton Tarleton Yeah, they won like axe and I were up to two in the morning
Starting point is 01:49:44 I came rock so upset that they I would have picked them to go to the elite eight if they won it Tarleton Tarleton yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think Arizona with Arizona beats Yukon in Phoenix the Arizona fans are going crazy. They're like, holy fucking shit It's gonna have a little Wisconsin 2015 vibes to it where they're like we did it Celebrate and then they lose the national championship to Houston. Okay. Okay. I think they celebrate too soon. Yeah. Yeah, I did celebrate too soon Okay, Mark Titus. Thank you as always. Thanks guys. So check them out mostly sports mark Titus podcast the yak. He does it all Let's get some madness. Mark Titus was brought to you by our great friends over at cars.com. Cars.com, it's a leading digital marketplace that connects car shoppers with their perfect car, celebrating 25 years of helping shoppers research, find inventory, finance, and sell cars. Wherever life takes you next and whoever you're looking to be, there's a car for that on cars.com. Actually, Jake
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Starting point is 01:51:15 Where to next? Okay. We got hashtag Matt online to end the show today. Reminder Friday we will have a show. We have Stanford Steve who will give you Friday winners. So Stanford Steve is going to give us after Thursday, we get our teeth kicked in. Stanford Steve will be joining us on Friday to hopefully pick up the pieces for us. Hank. All right. These are people mad about tournament stuff. Dan, Dan says in 21, one seat Illinois
Starting point is 01:51:43 has had to play an under seeded in state loyal team in round two. 22, they drew under seeded Houston in round two. This year, not only do we play an under seeded BYU in the second round, number 16, Ken Palm. Oh no. We didn't say, not only do we, but you didn't say but. These are the Ken Palm ranks of the other teams in their region. One is UConn, four Auburn, five Iowa State,
Starting point is 01:52:07 16 BYU, 21 SDSU. Yeah. So they got a bad draw. We talked about this earlier because you actually texted that to me and Big Cat last night. By you I mean Tom Frinelli sent that over. So they make good points and also the BYU thing is very funny.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Yeah. I like this one. Hot take, when non-at- at large teams like NCC in Oregon make their conference tournament, that conference should be the conference that loses a bit. I like that. So in this case, Virginia and Colorado out. Yeah. I like that. Good choice. I like this is a good rule. It also is very funny to me, which we haven't brought up because we've talked to Fanta and Rostein about the expansion of the tournament. The tournament is already the whole country. Yeah. Because you can win your conference tournament. Yeah. Why don't people do when
Starting point is 01:52:54 people say they want to expand be like dude it's expanded. Yeah. No they're all in. Everyone's in the tournament. Also the very nature of the regular season. Right. But everyone's in the tournament because you can win your conference tournament and then be in the tournament. Yeah, 96 is too much. That's too many teams. We have a 336 team tournament or whatever the fuck it is. Except that stupid rule with the D2 to D1 transition.
Starting point is 01:53:15 That's the worst. When teams win that, I feel like there's one every few years. Yeah, I agree with that. Aramac last year. I agree with that. You shouldn't take that away from teams if they prove it. But their tournament is expanded. The whole country's in the tournament. That's the beauty of the tournament Everyone's mad about Virginia
Starting point is 01:53:31 But why is Texas a comfortable seven seed while teams in the big 12 with similar records got left out or weren't even on the Oklahoma? Oklahoma Kansas State who just beat Texas Cincinnati Oklahoma skin state. I don't think had the resume Oklahoma definitely did they were the first team out and they got Screwed and it was because of all these bid stealers. It sucks But should have won more games. I also I respect the guy from Oklahoma being mad But their outlet for being mad is like well, Texas shouldn't be seated as high right right like that like it's good you're a natural course of energy for you would be to be like why the fuck is UVA in it?
Starting point is 01:54:07 But because you're an Oklahoma fan you're like well, they gave Texas too much credit They should be seated lower, which I like I appreciate that and you kind of tried to get us off the scent there a little Bit with since he since he I feel like could have had a resume Worthy, but Kansas State was I mean they were 19 and 14 Dallas says I don't think Dayton deserved to get in the tournament. Only two wins against teams in the tournament and that was Longwood and Duquesne lost games in conference against Duquesne, Richmond, VCU, Loyola and Mason. Best wins against Cincy and St. John's makes no sense. Oh, I like this. The Dayton
Starting point is 01:54:42 I mean this is another one if we had had the first rule that was offered up, which I agree with, Dayton wouldn't be in because Duquesne would have taken their spot. I'm fine with that. If you have a bid stealer in your conference tournament, it takes out one of your bids. Yeah, Dayton, they should have won their tournament. Wait, but hold on.
Starting point is 01:54:58 But then by that, someone could have taken out Creighton. Yeah, that would probably be a problem. Like if Providence had won the tournament Creighton would be out. I just think they should do a better job of picking which teams are in the tournament So as to not make me angry. Yeah also, I Hate to say it to the bubble people because I know that like an oklahoma fan a st. John's fan There's all even thinking about no one gives a fuck once the brackets out
Starting point is 01:55:23 Yeah, once once we get our hands on the bracket, I don't... Could you name a team that just missed the tournament three years ago? No chance. No, it's more about... No chance. It's not necessarily when I get my hands on the bracket because you do have those two days to be angry. You can be mad Monday, Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:55:41 Right, I'm just saying it's one of those angers that no one else cares about. No one's going to care about it. No one's going to care about it. What? I think Louisville just saying Tuesday one of those angers that no one else knows no one's gonna care about it No one's gonna care about what I think Louisville may have been one of those in when I'm so not on it one, okay Yeah, I'm furious about that Do you guys see Rick Patino's suggestion for the selection committee? He said have a great suggestion for get Dan Gavitt Who's absolutely the best? I know three guys who are watching games all year and would be a great addition They won't just look at certain metrics Jim Bayheim Roy Williams and coach carry They need to be part of selection just get your friends involved get the old guard back
Starting point is 01:56:09 I'm trying to get them a job his suggestions just like my suggestion is that it'd be real shame if there was a horse Head in your bed when you woke up tomorrow. Yeah, okay good suggestion I think I also think UVA makes it makes a difference in your theory What do you mean that nobody wants to watch UVA? Oh yeah. That part will add to the bubble. But they also got in the play in. So like I always like but if they win tonight like 50 to 46 everyone's going to be like holy shit we have to watch this fucking. Well it's like I said on Monday it's the narrative game because if they win tonight then everyone everyone's gonna be like the the Mountain West shouldn't have six teams And if they lose tonight, they're like fuck it. The thing that sucks to me is like st. John's is more fun than
Starting point is 01:56:53 Colorado State or UVA it's just a fact they they they play a more fun brand of basketball Yes, we'll end with that. I should be the tiebreaker just fun. Who do people want to watch? Yeah Will the over hit I? Threw away my Irish heritage on Sunday. I drank red red wine and ate Italian food in preparation for selection Sunday I sat there watching my TV with a chicken parm only to see my Savior not being the attorney What they did to st. John's and Rick Patino is criminal hmm Yeah, I mean I would agree the St. John's and Rick Pitino is criminal. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:25 I mean, I would agree. Irish and Italians are, there's so much more like than they like to admit. Yeah. They don't like each other. Yeah. But they're basically the same. It's like Baltimore and Pittsburgh fans hitting each other. It's like, no, you got, you're the same person.
Starting point is 01:57:37 It's, it's the old, uh, it's the famous Christopher Moltisanti when he was in the hospital bed and he's like, I went to hell and they're like, what it looked like, they were like, it was a, it was a bar and it was st. Patrick's Day every day was st. Patrick's Day and then the Irish person's like I went to hell what was it was Columbus Day yeah like it's you are the same people you should get along yeah Italians get they don't have a party day imagine if they did I don't have a party day like st. Patrick's Day feel like they just have every day memorial I mean no no one has a Mar no one has like st. Patrick's Day. I feel like they just have every day
Starting point is 01:58:06 Memorial I know no one has a Mar. No one has a st. Patrick's Day DJ's Biggie's tourney he's turning hit the start of the Biggie's tourney is Italian Heritage Day One of my favorite takes max has ever had because it really it doesn't make sense, but it makes perfect. Yeah, I get it Yeah, makes perfect sense Labor Day all the unions Are pj mihafa, okay? Good show boys Good luck to everyone on Thursday We'll see you on Friday morning fresh off of 12 hours of watching college basketball fresh off winning
Starting point is 01:58:41 Yeah, fresh. Oh, we're gonna be the only podcast in America that has a perfect bracket on Friday I have to win tonight. All of our teams will survive day one You said it Jake Jake I'm surprised you haven't done a who do you like in the first game MSU? Oh I did on the title show. Okay. Nice. Have you have you done baracket ology? No that good state When like no Obama was Irish by the way, that got really dangerous last year. I love it when it's like- I didn't know Obama was Irish, by the way. That was a fun fact. He is?
Starting point is 01:59:09 Wait, what? Someone released a video, I guess. I guess when he was a president, he released that he was Irish and then Irish people made a bunch of songs about him. Oh, huh. Did not know that. You gotta hear this song. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Yeah, Jake, you're big like when Arizona plays Kentucky, the Wildcats are gonna win. No, just the ms you think uh... but yet every president should for it's not a bracket uh... is very cool they make the best for isle of london outlawed by my mother mcgregor
Starting point is 01:59:44 and there's a buddy better and he's gonna knock out Floyd Mayweather So Floyd watch out the Irish are coming talk all you want, but you'll do nothing We may be saying that three thousand times. Yeah in Vegas you have to not get caught We got caught up. We got caught I would love to see Joe Biden fill out a bracket that would be that be it. See if he can do without falling down. How about this by Dan IT? Okay, workshopping. All time me and PFCB. I didn't get swept up in the moment and betting Conor McGregor and just being like he fucking hung in there. He almost won it. And then we watched it back sober like, Yeah, just messing with him the entire time we with a straight face bet
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