Pardon My Take - NFL Draft Rapid Reaction, Jon Gruden In Studio, Justin Thomas Off His Big Win Sunday + NBA/NHL Playoffs And Fyre Fest

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Its instant reaction on the NFL Draft first round. The Jags make a splash, Shedeur gets undrafted in the first round, we recap our teams (00:00:00-00:21:36) and then welcome in Coach Gruden to talk in detail on some of the picks and players he loved from Day 1 of the NFL Draft (00:21:36-00:50:08). NBA/NHL Playoff recap, Rockets even the series, Celtics on cruise control (00:50:08-01:11:14), Caps up 2-0 and more (01:11:14-01:27:28). Justin Thomas joins the show fresh off his victory at the RBC Heritage to talk golf, his first win in 3 years, how it felt fighting through those years without winning, getting tips on putting and more (01:27:28-01:59:20). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:59:20-02:21:49).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Audio, okay. Let's go Pardon my take. Yeah. Pardon my take. Yeah. Pardon my take. Yeah. Pardon my take. Yeah. Pardon my take. Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. Make it a playoff run. To remember with DraftKings, download the DraftKings Sportsbook app. Use code TAKE. That's code's code take for new customers get $200 in bonus pets when you bet just five bucks only on Draft Kings the crown is yours Today is Friday April 25th and football is back. So back the draft, baby I love nothing like the draft. Although the draft is way more fun when your team sucks ass. I See what you're doing here. I would rather the team be good. For sure.

But it is the truth. Yeah, yeah, the end of the draft. Crazy draft? I don't really know. I mean, the Jaguars trade was crazy. That was a pretty nuts trade. Fleeced? Fleeced.

I saw some of the different draft conversion charts. Some people were saying it was an all time fleecing. So the Jaguar, so all right, so let's set the stage first. Roger Goodell came out in a bike, that was weird. I know, I understand obviously it's the Packers tradition, but it was just weird seeing Roger Goodell on a bike. Well, you know why they do that in Wisconsin, right? Because the entire state has DUIs.

Oh yeah, that too, yes, good joke. I like that, I like that. They do lead the league, for sure. But they came out and then Clay Matthews, FCC, please arrest this man. I also think he lied. I don't think Donald Trump, he said the bears still suck and he said that Donald Trump sent him a message

saying that. Yeah, which would be, Clay, you're doing fake news. Yeah, right. Clay Matthews is now leading the league and doing the anonymous fake sources that Mr. President hates so very deeply. He should take away Clay's Clay Matthews FCC license. Can you arrest someone for misquoting the president? Send Clay Matthews to El Salvador. Agreed. That was bullshit. And also let's just say let's just call a spade a spade. He has

the entire NFL world watching him and all he's thinking about is the bears. That is a big rent free moment for big time rent free, big time rent free. Uh, so yeah, the draft started cam ward obviously goes one. We all knew it was going to happen. And then the fireworks start or sorry, explosive explosives, pew pew, uh, Shefty promises explosives, the Jaguars, uh, gave up pick number five overall 26, one 26 and and or sorry it's 36 126 in a 2026 first

round pick to go up to two to get Travis Hunter the Browns gave up number two overall 104 and 200 fleeced fleeced there was a quote after after the pick was made from the new GM of the Jaguars, Gladstone. I've got it right here. Boy Genius. Boy Genius, his first draft. The quote was, there are players you can target and acquire who will alter the trajectory of a game.

There are players that you can target and acquire that alter the trajectory of a football team. There are very few, and it's rare, to be able to target and prioritize a player who can alter the sport itself. Wow This is like show a this is a sport changing player So game will never be the same. It will never be the same if you're a Jaguars fan I think you're we were talking about with chaps. I think chaps had the good idea You play Travis Hunter as a wide receiver exclusively this year and then next year you start

Having him play both sides of the ball and you're like that was our 2026 first-round pick. Yes hunter the cornerback That's the way you do it. Yeah, I don't hate that also if if Trevor Lawrence throws an interception You've got a wide receiver. That's really good at tackling. That's true. Maybe force a fumble That's true turn a turnover into a turnover. I love what the Browns did though, because the Browns getting more draft picks. Uh, they, they are in, you know, purgatory right now or they're in hell with Sean Watson. They know they're not going to be good next year. Load up some draft picks and still get a stud with Mason Graham, which is a little awkward because Mason Graham is the one who called Jack Sawyer a pussy in the Ohio State Michigan game. So a lot of Browns fans are going to have, they've

probably said some choice words about Mason Graham and now you have a defensive tackle you're hoping is going to be on the Browns for the next 10 years. All right. So if I was the Browns, would it be crazy to, because you got picks now in the second round, you can start the rebuilding process. Flacco might not be bad enough for you to get a top pick next year. Yep. If he's your answer at quarterback, it could still take she door. They could take. That's what I'm going with here. But yeah, in the second round, use one of these picks, get Chidor. She was going to be extra pissed at the Steelers. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. Also

Chidor that was a tough, tough draft party. Yep. Well, I'm sure after party, at least Gilly was there. Gilly, Gilley is an all time vibes guy. Yeah. For the Jaguars, I was just thinking with their new GM, it feels like a picture perfect moment. Like, you're a Jags fan, you can almost fast forward five years from now and hear the press conference. And I've heard a bunch of them in my career as a football fan,

where they're like, what have you learned on the job since coming in? Well, when I came in, I thought I had all the answers. I thought I had to make a big splash right away. And I learned that you don't always have to make the big move to succeed. Yeah. You can hear that press conference happening

as this young GM is maturing into his role. Yeah, he's like, sometimes you gotta wait and see and maybe not get over your skis and trade the entire draft capital of the future. Although it's a first rounder next year, a lot of picks this year. Travis Hunter is really, really, really good. Yeah. Obviously.

Really, really good. I just think that if you're, the Jags are more going for it right now, whereas the Browns, I just like the fact that the Browns had the wherewithal to be like, hey, we're not a Travis Hunter away from being good again. We're a lot of picks away from being good again. And Mason Graham is going to I mean, Mason Graham's gonna be a problem with Myles Garrett. And I like Mason Graham a lot. I think he's gonna be awesome. I just like what the Browns did credit to the Browns. Also, Travis Hunter. There was a lot of people making the joke like you spent six months thinking you were gonna go to Cleveland and you Went to Florida. I don't even know if that joke plays as much because Jacksonville. Well, it's the classic Florida or Ohio bit Yeah, exactly. Ah, but yeah at least the weather. Yeah the weather Abdul Carter goes to Giants love that pick. I think he's gonna be a beast Hank will Campbell. Yep, Fired up. Yeah? He's crying. Said he's going to die for Drake May.

Oh. I love it. Short arms? That'd be bad if he died. Obviously it'd be very bad if he died. Right. But when you draft someone this high, that's what you want to hear. Can I tell you why you should love this pick, Hank?

Yes. All right. So Vrabel, Vrabel himself took a hands-on approach with this draft pick to the point where I think they got into a fight. I think Vrabel and Will Campbell fought-on approach with this draft pick to the point where I think they got into a fight I think Vrabel and Will Campbell fought each other on the practice field Vrabel went out there put the pads on played with him Vrabel says if that team with him He said if that tape ever gets out people are gonna have some problems It was important to me to get out there and feel him and feel every player. We evaluated on the line of scrimmage

That's pretty good. I would die for variable. That's pretty good. I fucking love him. So I'm like variable. Will Campbell is the best feeling player in the NFL draft. I mean, I, I do, like Mike variable being like, I have to have to forget my scouts. I need to feel this man to really know what I got. I love it. Yeah. And memes was being very mean, very mean. Oh yeah, he made some some photoshop's of short arms Yeah, well, no, he's the photoshop's were out there. He was repurposing them. Some would say stealing Yeah, but memes would say repurposing them, but he was mostly saying that Hank. Congratulations Hank

You got the second best o lineman in the draft. Mm-hmm Well, I said that to you you said that to me later, but then once that to me Who's the best so lineman in the draft memes? um Our guy well and what's your gonna say his name bamboo? I can't pronounce okay But yeah, I'm on Armand. Yeah, you can't pronounce Armand or you didn't know it. No. No, I knew is Armand I don't know names bad with names, but yeah memes are saying I don't know names bad with names, but yeah memes are saying essentially that that the Jets got a much better offensive lineman than the Patriots got like right off the bat Yeah, that's why they play the games. Yeah, but you didn't get the best feeling offensive lineman in the draft

I've never felt them. So I don't know. Yeah The explosives also were a reverse explosive with Ash and Gentie going to the Raiders Which everyone thought was gonna happen for like three months and then the last couple weeks everyone's like that's not what's gonna happen and then he ends up going to the Raiders including Pete Carroll giving Twitter clues that I still think he was just fucking with everyone. Yeah that's what he did the first time. Yeah. And then he's like y'all just get online fuck around. Yeah fuck around but I so I spent the pretty much the off season

being like, I don't want a running back going to the Bears. And then the last week I was like, it's going to be Ashen Gentian. I'm, I love this guy. I would have voted for him for Heisman. And then I ended up, and then the Raiders take him and I was mad at myself. And I was like, wait a second, your initial feeling was to not overextend to get a running back. What are you doing? That's just how the draft works. Yeah. You know what it is? It's like you had, I think the right plan. And then the closer you get to the draft, you just keep saying the words generational talent to yourself

over and over and over again. By the way, the draft comps were all time funny tonight. Yeah. Did you see like, I think Cam Ward, they compared him Patrick Mahomes as his draft comp. With Gentie it was Emmett Smith as his draft comp. Pretty high bar that they're setting there. Yep. Those are. Yeah. But it also credit to us, the NFL talent scouts, all the GMs, 32 GMs out there. Big Cat, Travis Hunter finished ahead of Ashton Gent.

That's true. That's true. And now I can stop saying that if I had a Heisman vote, I would have voted for Ashton Gent. Yeah. So that's nice. Yeah. But he I think he's going to be a great running back. Yeah. He's going to be awesome. They didn't really have much of a running game last year, so they needed it. Yeah. Uh, and then we had Ted McMillan going, uh, to the Panthers, which I don't know if it was shock. I mean, he was one of those guys that it felt like some people loved them. Some people hated them. Uh, and Calvin banks going to the saints

and then the bears getting Colston Loveland, which I, so I don't know shit. I'm just going to go off of what I've read and I'm just going to read you a couple of things I've read. This is from Eric Galco. Uh, he said, new bears tight end Colston Loveland was our number two player in the entire draft class, excluding all QBS after Hunter. So he was number two behind Travis the entire draft class, excluding all QBs after Hunter. So he was number two behind Travis Hunter. He's just a notch below Brock Bowers as a prospect and he finished his second highest graded tight end I've ever graded. I do think from, from the limited amount of guys on Twitter, I think that like

Brock Bowers obviously had a great season catching the football and doing everything for the Raiders offense last year. Loveland from what I've seen is better when he's in line. And so Ben Johnson loves to use two tight ends. He said that he reminded him of Sam Laporta. Colson Loveland said that Sam Laporta is his favorite tight end to watch. Also, here's another one from Angelo Fantasy. That's just like a guy in Philly dreaming of cheese steaks. Angelo fantasy said, Loveland was my TE1 this year, shows advanced manipulative qualities

at the STEM, specifically when tasked with timing based patterns, reminiscent of Trey McBride as a prospect, as well as stylistically. Did you say manipulative patterns at the STEM? Manipulative qualities at the STEM. That's the one thing that I look for when I'm watching films. That's all I wanted. Yeah. Just find me a guy who's got manipulative qualities at the stem that's the one thing that I look for when I'm watching that's all I wanted yeah just find me a guy who's got manipulative qualities at the stem just manipulate by stem daddy yeah so yeah I don't I I don't know I mean I don't know I think he's gonna be good but who the fuck knows so I wanted to be good are you happy with Cole

Comett ah so that's gonna be the interesting thing I don't I am happy with Cole Comett but I don't know the interesting thing. I don't I am happy with Colt Comet But I don't know what's the plans gonna be because I feel like Colt Comet's a good player Yeah, I know and they remember that he's on the field. Yeah, I like Colt Comet. I I don't know if the Bears I think they're gonna go with these two tight ends, but they might Colt Comet's got one year left on his deal either way, I like Colson Loveland, uh Just because I read a bunch of people saying he's incredible and I was like, yeah And also did you see the big game hunting he had on his wall?

No, what do you have? Oh my God. He had like the biggest elk and deer heads that I've ever seen. He grew up on a farm. Okay. He, it said that he would wake up like on Saturdays, he'd wake up at 6am to, to what is it? What is it called when you do the thing with the cow?

No serum. No brand, brand him. He'd brand cows, take a nap, go play football. to what is it called when you do the thing with the cow? Serum? No. Brand. Brand him. He'd brand cows, take a nap, go play football. You understand why when you're going like this and you're talking about a cow, I thought, yeah, okay. Although that would be more like this.

That's jacking off the bull. No, but this would be milking. This is kind of a reverse. This is more. OTPH. Yeah, this is more inseminating them. That's inseminating your own chest. Yeah. Well, no, I'm going this way.

So you're standing behind the cow. Yeah, I'm brand. OK, so you got you. So you used to wake up in the morning, brand cows, then play football. Yeah. Yeah, I love the guy. Yeah. Great pick. Yeah. With Ted McMillan, the only thing I know for sure about this pick is we're going to get some fire, fire side by side photos of Bryce Young and Ted McMillan. The only thing I know for sure about this pick is we're going to get some fire fire side by side photos of Bryce Young and Ted McMillan. Oh yeah.

Because what is he? 6566 little little Aaron Judge Jose. Yeah, that's the new one just dropped. Yeah. Kelvin Banks also. His baby threw up on itself. Yeah, I saw that. I think was that his baby. I don't know. It was a baby. There was a baby in the room next to him that got jostled a little bit in all the excitement. And then the baby just puked everywhere. And that's all of our first experiences with New Orleans. Yeah. Tyler Warren going to the Colts. I feel like everyone thought as soon as the bears took Colts in love and I was like, he's going to Tyler Warren is going to be a cult. Any other?, we, we don't know. We're going to have Gruden sit in with us in a second. Oh, bother me a little that the Packers took Matthew Golden after McShea told me told us that he's his number one receiver. Jackson Dart trading back up for Jackson Dart. So that's their QB, the future shout out, uh, Joe Shane's, uh, son putting on Instagram reels, Jackson Dart, hype tape, like earlier this morning, kind of telegraph that one. Um, the Falcons took a player from Georgia for the first time in like

50 years. Wow. So I know the Jaylen Walker, the fan base, he kind of fell. They really wanted somebody from Georgia. Yeah. Is anyone from Georgia will be happy with that. And then they trade back up and get the guy from Tennessee. So that was a, that felt like a lot. They gave up. I mean, it doesn't matter if James Pierce is really good. And I think there's a chance that he could be, you know, some people were saying that he has the highest ceiling, maybe some character issues, but that was, that felt like a lot to trade. highest ceiling, maybe some character issues, but that was, that felt like a lot to trade. Yeah. And then unfortunately we had Chidor falling and Dion in the green. I don't know if that's a green room, but just kind of a warehouse that they had them all in. Yeah, it was just their party. It was like a rave.

It was his house, I think. Oh, so they were not in Green Bay? No, they were not. Okay. Yeah. So they were just at a party and Chidor did not get picked. I think that Dion's going to be so mad. He's going to start his own league. He's going to go home tonight and be like, you know what, if they don't want you, fuck them. Yeah, the DFL. I'll say this. Thanks for making the second round interesting. Yeah. Like that that is the interesting thing. What's gonna happen on Friday? It'll probably happen. My guess would be early on.

Yeah, you'd hope. Also, the Ravens crushed their draft with Malachi Starks. Malachi Starks is a beast. He's gonna be so good for the Ravens. I had him secondachi Starks. Malachi Starks is a beast. He's going to be so good for the Ravens. I had him second on my big board. Yeah. Do you feel good about your, who'd you take? Connerly from Oregon. So here's why I feel good about Connerly. He's so he's an offensive tackle. He's huge. He's got great feet. He played running back and tight end. And then he just kept growing and eating. And now he's just this massive guy with big feet,

super athletic. And we got Laram this massive guy with big feet, super athletic. And we got Laramie Tunsell on one side. Uh, we ha we drafted Brandon Coleman last year that played left tackle. So we thought maybe we'd move him over to right tackle, but now we just drafted another tackle and we also have Wiley. Not a problem. Not a bad problem though. Now we've got, we've got a lot of tackles on our team and Sam Cosme is out at right guard

So I'd imagine that either Wiley or probably more likely Coleman is gonna move over to guard for a little bit And then we'll have Connerly on the right side. I have personal experience with Connerly. I met the guy Oh, so when I was flying to Arizona a couple years ago for the Barstool Bowl, you remember that? Yeah, I was on the same plane as the Oregon football team right as they were getting ready to play against Liberty. And Connerly was on the plane. And when he got on, he's the guy, I think I told you at the time, Oregon is so much, they're so big. Yeah. We bet Oregon. And I was like, this, this dude was big. I saw a big man on the plane. He plays for Oregon. I think they're going to beat the fuck out of Liberty. And sure enough, he was just so much bigger than Liberty that he pretty much swallowed them all whole and they just dominated him in that case

I remember it because you told us that and we bet we bet Oregon and they killed them our in-depth Serendipity. Yeah our in-depth analysis was I saw a big man on plane. We're like we give money. Yeah, uh Max jihad Jahad Jahad Campbell j had Campbell your big G hot guy Jihad Campbell seems like a beast can't say that I know too much of his tape, but I saw these how he's guy He traded up one spot to get him, which is a crazy thing to do But he traded up one spot to get him how he gets his guy He was a top 15 guy on everyone's big boards how he gets him at 31 how he does it again

Wow, I think the night was just dragging on and how he was like I got to get a trade in yeah He was chosen for one so he hit up Kansas He was like you mind just let's just do a trade get me in on some action, right? I just need to see the video of the drafts room When how he realizes that he can get him and see how excited he is and that's how excited I will be Because I can already see it in my head right now. He's going to be on the phone. He's going to be like, I got the trade done. We got it done. And then he's going to high five everyone else there. And then I'm going to be fired up. And he's a hometown kid and he's coming to Philly and

he said the rich is going to get richer and we're bringing another Super Bowl back to Philly. Wow. Memes. Good pick. Memes. Just to refresh real quick. The offensive line grades you gave yourself number one. Number one. Yeah. And what is his name again? Armand Manbo. There we go. And then who got number two? You got number two.

And then wow. But no, you said something else. You said I got what the best best left tackle. I got the best left tackle. Yeah. But you got the best tackle. That's right. Tackle. OK. Then best tackle. But then you put Hank third

Yeah, well, I like will Campbell it's unfortunate went to the Patriots got it But did you hear about variable putting his hands on them? Yeah, it sounds like variable got bitch. Oh Hey, what a time to take off your your kid you heard it. What do you think? He's getting old it's crazy. I mean crazy thing to say. You know that we're gonna have raves back on the show. Yeah. And if variable beats me up. Yeah. Gets arrested and can't coach a season that's on. That's true. But we also want to press charges. Memes will press charge. I would press charge. Oh you would. No you wouldn't. We keep them out. We wouldn't that make you the biggest bitch? Because he got pitched by Will Campbell, then he pitched you. No, but I think I'd be a hero.

OK, coach goes to jail. Um, let's get Gruden in here. What do we? Shafty's fit. What happened? He thought Bro thinks he's Andrew Whitworth. I mean, that was you can't do this. The tie and the sweatshirt. You know, I mean, I have to choose one or the other. I agree. the tie and the sweatshirt.

You know what I mean? You have to choose one or the other. I agree. I think you can go sweatshirt blazer. Correct. If you're Andrew Whitworth. Correct. If you're not Andrew Whitworth in the Venn diagram, then you have to just wear normal clothes.

Correct. And Chef T, he's advanced so far in his career that it's like, we know who you are, Chef. Right. You at the most, if you're like joining the manning cast, then you wear a collared shirt and a quarter zip. Right. Right.

All other occasions when you're on television, you should be wearing a suit and tie. I think he just, yeah, he got, he got lost in too much. Here he comes. Coach Gruden. Although you guys work this hard. We're live right now. So, or not live, but we're taping. So sit right down.

We're not going to keep or not live, but we're taping, so sit right down. We're not gonna keep you long. It's late. He's drinking wine right now out of a Stella Blue coffee cup. I love that. All right, put the mic in front of you and let's talk a little ball and then we'll get you... First of all, let's ask you this. It's 11 p.m. It's 11.15 right now. Is it too late for coach Gruden?

Because you get up at like four in the morning. Well, I'm put on put the mic. Let's see if Max is getting it Yeah, it's 12 15 in Tampa. How are you feeling? I Feel good, man. I feel I love it man. I love the vibe here. Yeah Barstool There's a lot of young talented guys that love sports and gals And did Stephen Che only get six right tonight? If he's lucky he got six, yeah, it's a hard it's a hard crap shoot to pick, you know Yeah, how do you think about uh, how do you feel about draft grades? I personally love them because the guys that give out draft grades right after the fact, what they're really grading you on is how well did the teams do in living up to what

I projected them to do? So they're really being like, I will give you an A if you think that I am correct. I'd like to take the draft grades and go back on them after a year or two. Yeah. You get the draft grade the day after the draft, who gives a rat's ass? But after two years, you give the team a D or you give them an A it's a more profitable evaluation, I think because you actually got to evaluate your players. Yeah. How

the hell do you know if they're any good or not? The next day? Yeah, that's a fact. All right. So big picture. What did anything surprise you tonight? Did you think there was any not grades, but like winners or losers? Or you liked someone's moves more than others? I love what the Giants did. Oh, okay. I love what they did. I thought they need a quarterback. The Browns need a quarterback. The Steelers need a quarterback. They don't have a quarterback. But the Giants got Abdullah

Carter, who I think is a really good player. Now you got Brian Burns. You got Deba Doe. You got Dexter Lawrence. You got some guys who can at least get after guys like Jayden Daniels and Hertz, mobile quarterbacks in the NFC East. And then they have the guts. You know, Dayball's been under fire, been on his ass. They move up and they take Jackson Dart. Um, I think those are two really good picks for the Giants.

Yeah. And if they come through that, that changes the dynamic of their team. What about, what'd you make of the Jaguars Browns trade? I was shocked what Jacksonville did. I know Jacksonville, I felt they needed a star. I live in Florida and the Jaguars are kind of a faceless franchise. Trevor Lawrence just has not exerted himself. It's not like, hey, I gotta get a Trevor Lawrence jersey. He's been a disappointment really.

ETN, who are the Jacksonville Jaguars? Maybe Josh Allen, Trayvon Walker. I mean, they needed somebody that had star power. Sell some tickets, get people excited. I just don't know what they're going to do with them. I really think he's a receiver. I think he can impact the game and help their quarterback at receiver. I think you're whistling zippity doo da out your butt.

If you think he's going to play both ways in the NFL. So why? Well, I had Charles Woodson, probably one of the great football players to ever do it. He played both ways and won the Heisman just like this guy did. And he was 20 pounds heavier. And Charles wanted to play offense also, but it's hard to play defense. It's hard. It's a hard deal, man. Every week's a different offense, different receivers, different quarterbacks, different game plan. You just can't go from that meeting to this meeting.

Not many people have done it. You guys have studied it your whole life, named two or three guys in the modern era of football that have done it. Sammy Baugh. Yeah, I mean, I didn't see Sammy play and I'm 61 years old. So we really have to be crazy to think a rookie is going to come in here and do that right away. On the other side of it though, I liked what the Browns did. I did too. I like the fact they got those picks. They got the picks. They got a great player in Mason Graham. And I

liked that the Browns basically, to me, it's like they were honest with themselves. We're not close. So let's, let's, let's get more picks draft capital, knowing that this is a full rebuild right now. Cause we missed on Deshaun Watson. And so that, that gives them bullets for the next year or two. Oh, Stephanski. He's been the two time coach of the year. So I'm sure he's got a little contract, you know, they got some confidence in him and maybe they go get should door. Maybe they go get Will Howard and maybe we over-evaluated Shador too. I mean, I hate to say it, but I'm shocked that he didn't go after all the hoopla and all

the hype that went in to the pre-draft ceremonies. Yeah. When it comes to making these trades on draft night, if you're sitting in the war room, do some GMs just call you up and they offer insultingly low value trades? Just if you're dumb enough to take it. It's not like fantasy football. Like I'm a fantasy football owner. I would call big cats say, Hey, I'll give you a six round pick for Pat Mahomes just to piss them off.

You're right. You know, if he's that dumb, if he'd really do it, you know, that doesn't happen. Every once in a while you might get a call where are you serious, but these general managers, they know they're dealing with professional people that know the value of their play. And they're all going off a similar chart. They have a chart. They know if you're talking about trading draft picks, that's one thing.

I was surprised. Kirk Cousins didn't get traded. I thought perhaps he could get traded to the Cleveland Browns. And, uh, maybe that's in the cards. Now Cleveland has some arsenal with this draft hall they got. Maybe they go get cousins for one year, see if he can rejuvenate his career in Cleveland. And it'll be interesting to see, but everybody's pretty solid when it comes to trade proposals. Yeah. All right. I know a guy you talked to at the Superbowl, Ash N' Gentie, got picked six to the Raiders. What are your beliefs in drafting a running back that high? Do you think he is

worth that type of pick? It's obviously a new regime in Las Vegas. So do you think that... It just doesn't happen very often. Yeah. I used to argue that Mel Kuyper when I was doing the ESPN draft Kuyper said you don't take running backs in the first round I said, well, Earl Campbell was the first pick Tony Dorsett wasn't bad. Emmett Smith turned out. Okay Yeah, you know it all depends on a year-by-year basis, you know, who are the top ten players in the draft? I don't think this year's draft was as strong as people want it to be for TV purposes. I mean, COVID impacted this class. So did the NIL and the transfer portal. I mean, the number one pick in the draft played on three different teams.

And I don't know if that's beneficial for his career. I don't believe it is. But a lot of these guys don't go to spring practice. They're coming out as juniors. They don't play in the same system for multiple years. It's a different process now. So it's a crap shoot. To answer your question, I don't even know. Yeah. What about Ibuka to Tampa Bay? Yeah, I love Ibuka. Will Howard was in our office and he echoed our feelings, what we saw on tape. Egbuka is a great receiver now. Back to back, 1,000 yard seasons, tough as hell. He can

line up in the slot. He can mismatch you as a receiver on the perimeter and he can be a punt returner. Howard loved him. He's an unselfish guy, understands the game, knows who to block, can't wait to block. He's an unselfish badass. That's a good pick. And it tells me perhaps Chris Godwin's rehab has not gone on schedule. Maybe he won't be ready to start the season. Mike is a great receiver, but he's got to be going into his 14th, 13th season. And you got to have firepower at that position to be great. I kind of like what they're doing. They're kind of showing Baker, we're going to continue to commit

to giving you the best possible targets. Because when they're offense, when they were passing the ball well, they looked like a great team out of the NFC. You know, I saw them play live. I told you guys the last time when they played the 49ers, I was at the game. I did not know Bucky Irving was that good.

And Rashad White is another good back. And their offensive line, their center, the rookie they took the first rounder, he's a hell of a player. And Gettyky and Werfs are as two good at tackles as there are. This is a hell of a football team on offense. Yeah. And now you got Evans and you got I don't know how to say his name yet, but I'll learn. And now you got the potential of Chris Godwin coming back and McMillan was a good pick from Washington. So they're a good team that could be great and they got to solve their problems on defense. Yeah. By the way, I've loved watching the Gruden quarterback camp. Yeah. We had a lot of follow those guys. It's very good. So who was the most impressive person that you talked to?

Well, the guy that got picked tonight was really impressive. Jackson was, he was great. Will Howard was phenomenal. They were all very, very good. I think this Kyle McCord, this Hannigan guy, he might not get drafted until the third, fourth, fifth round, but all of these guys are good players. You know, all it takes is somebody to believe in you. You got your job, he got his job, I got my job because somebody believed in me and I remember coaching Ty Detmer in Philadelphia I believed in I believed in Rich Gannon in Oakland and sometimes that's all these guys need is somebody that believes in them Yeah, and I hope Will Howard gets his shot because he's a winner man And he's a big strong tough son of a bitch man and a great competitor

How how sick did it make you when Jackson Dart said that he doesn't have a snap count? He just, I saw that clip. That clip was incredible. Pretty much all of them did the same thing. Really? You know, none of them have learned. Well, that's the thing we'll talk about this. I'm sure hopefully in the future, but a lot of people say the game is evolving. The game is evolving. Parts of the game are dissolving, okay? We just had Steve Deberg in my office. He's 71 years old.

He threw for 34,000 yards. He played for the Chiefs. He played for the Bucs, the Dolphins. He played for all kinds of different teams. One of the great ball handling, play faking quarterbacks ever. And he helped Peyton Manning learn how to play fake. You don't even see a play action pass anymore. You see the RPO or he pulls it out of the running

backs chest. But you know, parts of this game are dissolving and the snap count has almost totally dissolved. Yeah. All right. Any other, any other teams that you're like, I think they did a great job and I mean, I always just say wherever the Ravens pick, it's going to be a good pick. Selfishly, I love what the Ravens did, man. I love Malachi Starks. I get personally attached to players. That's the biggest fault I have. A lot of the players, ah, Groot and you drafted so and so.

He's not a good, well, I love that guy. I get attached to these guys. When I meet them and I spent time with them There's certain guys you cherish you want to be around you want to help you want to see succeed and Malachi? Starks he comes in my office. You know he's a badass. He has this he has this presence about him He's a great communicator. He's big strong Experienced he's just a clutch game-changing player. And for the Ravens to get him and pair him with Kyle Hamilton and Bobby Humphrey, I'm

telling you, that was a big pickup for Baltimore tonight. Yeah, he's an awesome player. I wanted him. That was my guy. So Mike Frable, apparently, he worked out all the guys, all the big guys that he was thinking about drafting, put his hands on him. And he said that Will Campbell felt the best to him, felt the strongest. Do you get physical with draft picks if you're interviewing him?

No, that must be a Patriot thing. Must be the tuck rule bullshit. I don't feel the guy's butt cheeks to see if he's for me. I get better evaluation. I got a question about the Falcons. So they take, uh, Jalen Walker at 15 and they come back into the first round and take James Pierce at 26 two guys. They don't play exactly the same way, but you know, you know, you're hoping they're going to be edge rushers. Jalen Walker can maybe move around a little bit more. Is that weird to take two guys and also come back into the round to not like you see with quarterbacks, but they did trade a decent hall to come back into the first round. I was surprised by that. Yeah. They gave up a lot to get for the 26 pick. You would think it would be a quarterback. Right. Because a lot of teams will do it to get the control. I love Tennessee. My wife cheered at Tennessee. I go back to Tennessee. I got a place in Tennessee. I want to love Pierce.

I don't see Pierce as a run defender yet. I don't see him wearing the big boy pants and doing what you need to do to be that kind of a player where you give up a first round pick and other picks to get them. Right. But I know the Falcons need a pass for us. Jude on was a disappointment no matter how we slice it. They had no pressure on the passer. They got rid of Grady Jarrett. They do go and get a good player from Georgia in round one. And I'm hoping Pierce starts to realize his potential,

but I thought he was a major disappointment this year for Tennessee personally. What about what the Eagles did? So the Eagles moved up one spot. That was a shocking trade. I mean, I don't know how that works. Yeah. I know Andy Reid and Howie are good friends.

So maybe there was some personal information exchanged there. But I've never seen you go up one spot and give up a fifth round pick from 32 to 31. And then they take a linebacker. Philadelphia, you got to give Howie Rosenman credit. If one guy knows how to pick players, it's him. And N'Kobe Dean had an injury late in the year against the Packers in the playoffs.

They get a guy like Campbell, 6'3", 240, that can run and athletically do the things he does. That's a solid pick. I'm sure Vic Fangio will know what to do with him. But that was a weird transaction. And then Andy Reid gets Josh Simmons, I think the best tackle in the draft provided he's healthy. Yeah. I felt like how he's addicted to making trades. He needs some action going. And so the night was almost over and he's like, I got to squeeze one in just after the night. Yeah. Well, they lost some players too, you know,

PFT. They lost Milton Williams. They lost Josh Swett. They lost Darius Slay. I remember when we won our Super Bowl, we lost some players. People take them away from you and you have a hard time replacing them when you don't have salary cap space and you don't have a high draft pick. But this guy, Howie Roseman, has found a way to do it. Yeah. I'm scared about Campbell. I feel like he's he's the guy that everybody was looking at and be like, how is he still on the board? Yeah, I like I you're right. Josh Simmons, the chiefs made a lot of sense. And I feel like that's gonna be a good pick for them. The other

one that I liked, I and this is just my dumb brain football brain. But the Steelers taking a defensive tackle being like, Hey, look, Cam Hayward is, is at the end here. He hasn't retired, right? He's still playing. I don't, I don't know. He's still there. I think his pitch count is going to be not what it used to be. Yeah. But it's like, Hey, we had this guy who was the anchor of our defense. We need another guy who's going to be a younger or they had his Larry Ogan, Joby, who played pretty good for him. He's gone. So they need a defensive tackle. Now they got one quarterback on their roster. I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. Maybe Aaron Rogers, like he's going to

solve all your problems. It sounds great. Uh, but two years ago he was out for the year. And last year, I think he had his hands on the ball inside the two minute drill five times with a chance to win and didn't get it done. He's not in camp right now. So you got to learn the offense. You got to build some camaraderie with your team. I don't know what Pittsburgh's doing at quarterback. I was kind of shocked. They didn't take a quarterback at number 21, but they got a defensive tackle and good for them. What do you think about some players that are coming out that might be a little bit undersized? You see reports like they that might be a little bit undersized?

You see reports like they need to get a little bit stronger once they get to the NFL. How do you evaluate a guy like that where you're like, he just needs to get stronger and then he'll be great as opposed to a guy that you look at and you're like, I think he's about as strong as he can possibly be. Yeah. That's where you bring your strength coach in. He's got all the measurables. They measure your bone sizes, your growth capacity.

They take a look at your strength numbers. That's why they test at the combine. The problem is a lot of these guys don't even go to the combine and work out anymore. I mean, Will Johnson, the corner from Michigan, I guess did not run a 40 from what I'm told. A lot of the quarterbacks won't run. So it's not as conclusive as it used to be. It's not as well known what people actually run, what their true strength is, but you can measure their body fat and you get a sense of their work ethic and you got to interview the people in the training staff. You got to interview the people that this guy's been associated with to try to imagine

where he's headed with his strength and his true capacity. Yeah. Do you have a favorite draft pick? I loved all my draft picks. I was asked me and I've had some players that didn't perform that they say are busts. Well, I'm convinced if I was still coaching, they wouldn't be busts.

You know what I mean? Selfishly, that's the mindset that I have. I mean, I love Max Crosby. That's easy to say. Hunter Renfro was a favorite draft pick of mine. Can we get him back in the league? He's going to be back. You watch this week, you're going to see a transaction. I love it. Yeah. He'll be back in football. He belongs in the league. He's physically ready to go. He'll be an exciting addition. Yeah. I also think I'm just ripping off a couple. I think the Cowboys did the anti-Cowboys

thing where people thought maybe they're going to take a wide receiver and they, they were like, Hey, we need someone to that's what they did. Yeah. But Zach Martin just retired. Like that's what they did 20 years ago with Tyron Smith and Zach Frederick, right? Mark start building in the trenches. They started building those guys. The left tackle in Dallas is a first round pick. Didn't play very good last year. The kid they took from Tulsa is a first round pick three years ago. BB's a second round pick,

and now they took another first rounder. But I think this Booker guy, did you see him? Running around the facility. I mean, I just think this Booker, he's the straw that's gonna stir the drink in Dallas. He's gonna get that group to come together, and he might kick the shit out of all of them if they don't. He's that kind of personality, that kind of presence. I think he's just what the Cowboys need. I love that pick.

And I, the other two that I liked, uh, I thought the Seahawks doing the same thing where they're going to get it, you know, an offensive lineman, uh, cause you got to protect Sam Darnold. And then I kind of liked what the Chargers did just because you need weapons on that offense. It didn't have the pop and they took Amarian Hampton from UNC. Yeah, I was surprised by that. I mean, they just signed Najee Harris. Yeah.

And I like Najee. Najee has four straight 1,000 yard seasons. He's almost the same size as Hampton. So now you got two halfbacks. Don't get me wrong, they're good to have, but- They wanna run the ball though. They're going to want to run the ball. I watched the playoffs. They got a bunch of Neanderthals. They look like a sumo wrestling team. They got Justin Herbert at quarterback. They got to throw the ball in

an indoor facility like they play in. Perfect conditions. I just thought they would take two or three receivers and help this guy throw the rock because he's really good at it. I think they'll end up taking one later in the draft. I just think that Harbaugh wants to run the ball. And I mean, they're just going to be set up to run the just smash mouse football. They didn't run the ball against Houston. They couldn't. You know, they didn't run the ball. I think you got to throw the ball a little bit to

run the ball. True. Good point. I know all you guys are big Harbaugh fans. I am too. Yeah. But they have three tight ends. They got a defensive lineman playing fullback. I know you want to run the ball, but you got Justin Herbert's all I'm saying. Maybe a wide receiver. Sprinkle and a wide receiver.

Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah. What about the Broncos? They got Baron at cornerback. Yeah. They're like taking their strength and making it a mega strength. They had 65 sacks last year. We all know about Sir Tan. He's a hell

of a player. They get a guy like Hifanga. I think I'm saying it right. From the 49ers. He's a badass, man. If he's healthy and now you get Baron who can play the nickel, he can play in the slot, he can play in the safety position, he can play corner. He's a strategic weapon and Vance Joseph's a good defensive coordinator, but they got better. I was hoping they took Trevion Henderson. I wanted to get a speedy running back because I love Sean Pate and we go way back, but I can't deny they got a good player tonight. One last thing for you. I saw that you were talking about hanging out with Gentie and did he introduce you to Migos? Is that how it went? Yeah. I've been learning about music

Yeah, I got Gentie got me on to me goes and I'm not just a fan. I mean, I'm I'm a true-blooded listener You know Young boy. Yeah, I got I I even got into Chris Brown after talking with your guy Jaden Daniels Okay turn me on to Chris Brown Jackson dart has helped me out a little bit I'm evolving in the music world. Yeah, I like that I'm gonna straighten you guys out when I see it next time I come through Chicago, but I miss you guys It's great to see you. Yes. It's great to see you too. And thank you for what you think of the Bears pick. I

Listen, I'm just to trust whatever Ben Johnson. Oh shit. No, that cop. I mean, I'll tell you the honest. All right. Yeah. The bear, the first nine picks broke poorly for the bears in terms of like what you were hoping where it's like, Hey, maybe Ash and Gentie falls.

Maybe Mason Graham falls. It basically went in order of like, you know, the ed, what two or two offensive linemen, uh, all these guys get picked. I think Ben Johnson, he, he sees a little Sam Laporta in Colson Loveland. It's going to be a big part of the offense, two tight end sets and Blutman, our guy Blutman said he was, he was his number one ranked tight end. So I love Loveland too. He's a mismatch guy. You got to watch him a couple of years ago because this year he didn't have a quarterback. They didn't have a passing game. And he was also hurt. He just had surgery in January. I went to the Outback bowl in Tampa, whatever they call it. They played Alabama. So I got to go to Michigan and meet coach Moore and watch

the Wolverines practice. And he wasn't practicing. Yeah. Did not play in the bowl game, but they love them at Michigan. Yeah. I was just kind of curious what they're going to do with Colk Comet. I thought he would be a good pass receiver in Ben Johnson's offense. Yeah. I don't know if it's going to be, yeah. But if you're going to play two tight ends. Yeah. Here's the problem.

Which receiver do you take off the field? DJ Moore, the kid from Washington, or Keenan Allen? Well, I don't think Keenan Allen's going to know on the bear. So we'll get them off the field There's all the problems a problem solved tonight Look how easy that goes when I watch the Lions play they play what I call 11 personnel You got one back one tight in three receivers They did actually I saw the stat because I basically the minute a pick gets made you just go and look for all the positive Affirmation and it was Ben Johnson

I think was like second or third in the league in two tight end sets 33% of the time so he he's gonna do it. We're gonna we're gonna fucking Listen Colson love them. That was my number. I told you is my number one. I know you called it you I gave you credit That was my number one. I told you, is my number one. I know you call it. You want I give you credit I might have walked in he fumbled he threw a pick six when he walked Asking for Malachi Starks. I did I said Malachi Starks, but that was after the Ravens had already taken him I was just bummed out. I said I had Malachi Starks Oh, yeah, and you remember last year who I had number one on my big board, right? Yes. Who's that?

on my big board, right? Yes. Who's that? Jay, Jayden Daniels, number one on the big board. No, I can vividly remember getting that shoved down my throat and boy, did you hit that right on the freaking lottery, man. Yeah. So, um, I did screw it up because Nate screwed it up for me because he told me that Mike Green got picked. Remember that? Yeah. So Mike Green, I, I kind of like Mike Green. I watched a bunch of his highlights last week and that dude seems like he should have been picked in the first round. Mike Green, the kid from Boston College, the safety from South Carolina. Those are the top three, I think, defensive players that are coming right off the board. But I never did get my Saint Restyl Jersey. Want this one?

Well, no, I mean, you know, take this one. No, I'm not taking it off your back. You mean you mentioned it because, you know, I you like it. No, I'm not taking that. Take it. No, I don't want that. No, he's giving it to you. Take it. You got to take it. I don't want anymore. You got to take it. OK, I'm going to get a comradely jersey. Here we go. I'm going to give you my Monday Night Football tie. Oh, wow. I get to game dance.

I wore this tie on Monday Night Football. It's the first time I've worn it. I think this was the Vikings Packers tie. Wow. I'm going to give you this. And it's my first bar stool draft analyst tie. Yeah, that's a Brooks Brothers tie. We're going to we got to frame it. Put it up. Oh, any moment I go now. Yeah. It's late.

It's late. I really do admire you guys, man. The work you guys do. I appreciate it. We appreciate you coach tone around here. You know what? It need to set a freaking tone. Yeah. I love it. And, uh, standard is the standard. They always standard. It was great though tonight is seeing Jersey Jerry swallow a grape Thank you coach Yeah, he's going to Duffy yeah, okay Thanks coach Gruden real quick. We're about to get to our NBA and NHL playoff recap Which we were taping while some of the games are going on

We should probably update the Grizzlies lost but they did cover and also John Morant is very injured and Lou Dort as a Lou Dork guy I disavow that was not a good play Yeah, that was bad. That was really bad. It was bad play. Yeah, that was bad. That was really bad. It was bad. Uh, job landed. It looked like where, where'd he land? It looked like just on his face. His body hit flatly. So his hip, not good. That was all thunder. I mean, John, not being in the Grizzlies are very limited offensively, but they did hold the Grizzlies to 31 second half points. That was bad. That was really bad Ludort, we got to be better. I'm a Dorch chamber guy

But yeah, you're gonna hear us Recapping live and I think we said that the Grizzlies were gonna win But then John Moran got hurt. He believed yeah what I believe I said just wait. Yeah, but the Grizzlies did cover That's true. Yeah, so and I took them plus eight and a half So they did cover but that was a thunder thunder gonna sweep just like we thought from the beginning. All right we got to do real quick before we get to our playoff recaps. We're gonna do our first baskets which we all got wrong so this is for Friday night DraftKings We're gonna give you our picks for first basket scores on Friday night NBA playoffs finally here

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Game Time. Okay, let's talk some playoffs. We can go chronological order. Hank? Yeah? Up 2-0. Easy on the Magic. Tatum was invisible.

Didn't play. That was a joke. I know yeah But I think that I mean this is all this series doesn't it's just the mavericks are just playing Magic are just playing like scum. Yeah It's like if you're if you're a really good team and you play borderline dirty Then you're just a really gritty team if you're're not quite that next level team and you play really dirty, then you're just dirty. And that's kind of what the magic are falling into right now. I don't know if they're playing dirty as much as they're just not like coordinated and good. They're just getting beaten, getting mad. Yeah. You're talking about that one play specifically Chris stops got elbowed in the forehead. I think he just doesn't understand how to control his body.

I saw that guy fall down and I was like, is that guy okay? Yeah, right. I was like, you're just kind of a spaz. Yeah, that wasn't dirty. That was like a 12 year old, like an overgrown 12 year old, trying to figure out their limbs. That guy was all elbows and knees. Fantastic for the DVD though.

Those are the moments you need. Yeah, and you had the Joe Missoula quoteote afterwards saying I like watching him bleed on the court. I think that's important about Chris stops for zingus awesome pictures for poor zingus like those If if our reports think it's I'd have those framed in my house Oh, and we it was happened on the podcast the other night when LeBron went down and I was like joking So I got LeBron just died and the video came out Oh Bron went down and I was like joking. So I got LeBron just died and the video came out Oh, so he was on the ground and then you could be there's a zoom in angle of him like opening his eyes to see if anyone was Like worried about him and then just got right out

Yeah, you got the side by side with him in prisingus with the band-aged they brought him back on the court They didn't wipe him down. No, it looked like he had just like a mohawk died into his head of blood Yeah, I would say though for the Celtics, like obviously I would assume Tatum's fine. He they're just sitting him out because they don't take the magic seriously. The big story was the jail and two two bags on his way up the plane today. Oh, okay. How heavy though? No bandage double bags. But how heavy? Like a big like, you know, nice Louie. Well, wouldn't that be interesting if one of them was empty? Yeah. What was in the bags? Clothes probably probably it could be an empty bag

Okay, we're talking like yes. I don't to your point I don't think they're they need to play those type of mind games We're talking about like a thick you know knit sweater are we talking about silk shirt wait clothes Can be heavy for a road trip hold on time out you don't think Joe Missoula would be like hey Jason Hold this empty bag on the way up the steps. That's true, but that's also something maybe you save and hold this empty bag on the way up the steps. That's true, but that's also something maybe you save. The empty bag trick? Yeah.

Okay. I think Joe Missoula actually might give him a heavy bag to carry up. So the story from this game is, did the Celtics user empty bag trick too early? Did the Celtics empty the bag? Some high level analysis right here. Yeah, Jalen Brown looks completely healthy 36 points

He was awesome. That would be your big takeaway. I would think yeah It's like because I mean obviously his knee going into the playoffs is like I hope he's okay Also, this is a weird game because it was one of those it was it was like a torture game because The Celtics never they were always up about 10 Never could like do the kill shot. Mm-hmm, but it was never because the Celtics never, they were always up about 10, never could do the kill shot, but it was never the magic could win the game. So you were watching and being like,

oh, you never know, oh, it's eight. And then you're like, no, but it's never gonna happen. Yeah, so with Tatum, how far can you go without Tatum? How long could you conceivably keep him on the bench? Well, I mean, to the top of the plane with the empty back. Up all the stairs, yeah. 33,000 feet is what you're saying. Easily.

Yeah. But no, how far do you think you could make it just by sitting him? I don't know. And luckily, we're not going to have to find out, I hope. Luckily, we're not going to have to find out, I hope. But it's a great team. It's a complete team effort. Jalen Brown, you know, it's a team effort. Jalen Brown in his comments today said the offense runs through Jason. Like he's our playmaker. But when I need to step up, I have the ability to do that. So

I think they, you know, if Jalen Brown went out, it'd be the same thing. But you want them both together. Like it, we need everyone healthy. I just loved how much Porzingis loved his own blood. Yeah. He like came jogging back on the court. He's like this is kind of fun. There was a WWE or a W is in Boston recently. He was like in the in the front I mean it looked like he cut himself with a razor blade was such a perfect forehead cut He liked the wrestling like the wrestling moment. Yeah And Franz and Paulo are still good. It's just the rest of the magic or not Yeah, yeah, this is just you're just waiting out the time. Mm-hmm Who you get who you got next next thing bomb next or or Pistons in bomb?

Celtic state I'm doubtful for game three with quote severe wrist bruise Okay, so that bag was empty severe wrist that bag was empty I could see Joe Missoula putting extra weight in it and Just having him carry up the steps would be like I want the least painful part of your week That bag was empty. I could see Joe Missoula putting extra weight in it and just having him carry up the steps would be like, I want the least painful part of your week to be when you're playing basketball. Yeah. Or like I'm getting re-injured. Mighty duck situation. He put it in the bag to see how. Yeah. Adam banks. Can you hold the, can you hold the stick? Uh, calves heat, uh, calves are up two. Oh, this was the, the calves second quarter was one of the best shooting quarters I've ever

seen. They went 11 for 14 from three. Absolutely crushed them. And then the Heat actually fought back and got a close, I think they got it to a two point game. And then Donovan Mitchell just went nuts. Yeah. So Mobley got what? Defensive player of the year? He did. That's pretty cool for him. Yeah. So he's always been a great defender, but it's good to see him recognized in this game. I was playing softball during it. Yeah. So we'll get to that a little bit later.

But again, this goes along my policy of not really paying attention to anybody in the East besides the Celtics. Yeah. They, uh, I mean, it was like the Cavs, the Cavs were up by a lot and I give credit to the moral victory for the Heat is what I'd call it. I mean moral victory. They fought back that they are in the playoffs. Yeah. Well, and also fighting back in this game because like I said, 11 14 from three in the second quarter.

Also Tyler here. I'll probably be taking some of his props on DraftKings. Oh yeah. Yeah. After all them out. They said what the Cavs need to do to continue to when he said pick on Tyler Hero. Yeah. Why do you say that?

Well, cause that's yeah. Why? I know. I don't get me wrong, big cat. I know why you would think that, but why do you say it? I don't, I think that I wild, it is wild. There's no reason to say something. Why? I think there's nothing Tyler Hero can do so they don't poke the bear. Don't why try? Yeah. Well, I mean, he, they're talking about defense still he was good offensively. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I got I mean, they're talking about defense still he was good offensively. Yeah Yeah, I don't know like your hero has his bag But I guess it's like you're you know, if you're you're pushing your opponent to try I guess, you know Yeah, I think they're saying like he's not gonna be able to guard us. Yeah, and we're gonna So we're just gonna keep getting switches till we find him. It's like when Bane is like, where's your precious Batman now?

Yeah, I mean it's happened. I mean what last year in the in the NBA finals there's like let's just keep switching till we find Luca. Happens is this is what they do in the playoff season. They hunt. They hunt. They hunt for someone. But it's rare that you would like publicly say, yeah, hey, that guy. Hey, excuse me, Mr. Journalist. I just want to say that that guy sucks. I think the Cavs probably are not scared of the heat. Appears that way. Appears that appears that way blew that game. They almost blew that game Warriors Rockets is that's it's just a fistfight and Jimmy Butler might be out for a while I don't know how do we have any update on his injury?

But there is but it was a it was a contusion a contused pelvis. Oh, memes just had to tell Max, hey, they're talking about update on Jimmy Butler. Go look it up. Memes, do you think you should be running the computer? If I need a third computer, I'm doing audio and video. I just need a third one. So that Max can just sit back. The Eagles are coming up on the clock.

I'm trying to figure out what's going on. You said, quote, I can't wait to not care about who we pick. I know, but then when it comes down to it, I'm curious. I mean, just find who Howie Rosen, find who was mocked. Wait, the Eagles have- You are not coming up on the clock. You're not even close to the clock. There's eight more picks. That's coming up. No, it's not.

Eight is coming up. That's coming up. You got to be like three or four away. That's coming up, but it's not, I'm going to stop doing my job because the pick is coming up, coming up. That's... no. Dude, eight picks is like an hour away. This is crazy. No, you're crazy. It's draft time. I'm worried about the birds.

What are you looking at? He was worried about the eagles coming up. But worried about... and how... in what way? The commanders are coming up, what, four picks before the eagles? I'm not worried about the Eagles coming up but worried it and how in what way the commanders are coming up? What four picks before the Eagles? I'm not worried about them. I'm not worried. I was just curious I was looking to see I was looking do you even know what you're looking up right now? Yeah, Jimmy Butler diagnosed with deep glute muscle contusion. Oh, hmm. That's on his pelvis, right? I don't even think I have that muscle

Your ass no, I mean You have an asshole you have, but the deep glute muscle? You have an ass. But deep glute muscle? I don't think you can even get to that. This is why Hank will never miss a playoff game in the NBA. Yeah. I don't even have a glute muscle.

I don't know how I would injure my deep glute muscle. Well, it might have something to do with just falling directly on your ass. Maybe. And when it happened, everybody was like, there were point fingers at Dr everybody was like there were point fingers at at Draymond they were pointing fingers all over the place if Draymond didn't do anything I want to absolve Draymond in this collision I

like Draymond I like what he said after the game what do you say the this they asked about the chancel and fuck you Draymond he said that's reserved for Boston oh did you see Steve Kerr no he got a little upset he said it's not ideal when a crowd is chanting fuck fuck you, Dreymon. I would, or he said, F you, Dreymon. I would prefer fans could use a little more discretion and remember that the guy has kids. Maybe I'm old school. I'm all for the fans cheering for their team.

And if they want to yell at the opponents, great. But I just think F you is a little too much. Steve Kerr, that's a pussy ass take. Yeah, I would agree. Steve Kerr kind of got pretty smarmy with it after the game because he would he was talking about the physicality Yeah, and he kind of like looked down his nose at playoff intensity It's like dude you won championships with Draymond on your team, right? Yeah, that's a funny thing about can't see it from that other side Yeah, the Rockets are definitely mucking it up and there it's a very physical series the rest are letting them play. But Warriors fans being like, this is egregious. What are you talking about?

Yeah, you can't, you don't get to do that. Yeah. Max, can you tell me what is Steve Kerr's son's name? Nicholas. Nicholas is correct. Nicholas is correct. But good for the Rockets. Jalen Green was incredible. He's like the most bipolar player. He had seven points in the first game, 38 points in the second game. But the big story about Jalen green, it was shared during the broadcast. His pregame meal is chicken Alfredo. I can't think of a worst game meal to have before playing a basketball. Well, I don't know. I don't know if you count that as pregame because what it is, I think he eats the chicken Alfredo. Then he takes a nap. Well, I don't know if I don't know if you count that as pregame, because what it is, I think he eats the chicken alfredo, then he takes a nap. Okay. And then

he wakes up and then he plays basketball. Still a belly of chicken alfredo at any point is not physical activity. I think he had to work his way backwards from having the what's the best way that you can get some sleep before the game and be rested. I know I will eat a big dish of creamy pasta. So it's like it's essentially taking Nike will so that he can sleep so he can play. I mean 38 points I guess the chicken Alfredo worked on Wednesday night. I just know I feel like chicken Alfredo. I mean I'm not lasagna maybe. I mean amongst all the pastas I would say that chicken Alfredo probably the worst yeah

Yeah, I can't think of maybe gnocchi Yeah, but it's heavy. I feel like they never give you enough gnocchi Yeah, but if you have like all you if you're at the buffet no, but they always give you like 10 gnocchi You're like I want more gnocchi um yeah, maybe is that not right max. I don't like the way you're saying it gnocchi gnocchi No, I'm not gonna say it say it for us Italian gnocchi And you know gnocchi. Yeah, it's three syllables and gnocchi I'm not gonna say it again. Okay, but what was gnocchi gnocchi, but do you agree that they only say like that? I mean I I a thousand percent say that do you do they not give you enough gnocchi that was good That was pretty they not that's not great

It depends the place that you go to I've gone I've gone to some pretty fat places I give you a huge bowl of it of what and Yoki and that's not even Italian I think what you're doing is like you're adding the extra the extra value onto it You're like a new okay, which is fine if you say like that, but you can't say I know it's the GN that To it you're like a gnocchi which is fine if you say like that, but you can't say a no case the gn that It's the gno that you're you that you're no gnocchi. I'm probably saying it wrong. I'm gonna have Italians in my ass Oh, yeah, yeah, you're gonna have Italians in your ass Yeah, you will max Maybe spaghetti meatballs max you could play on spaghetti. Oh Oh yeah, you could play on the spaghetti meatballs.

It's actually spaghetti. It's the heavy cream. Heavy cream is just brutal. Yeah. Heavy cream. Yeah, the heavy cream is a very strange choice, but if it's for the purpose of just sleeping, I kind of get it. Yeah.

But that's maybe one of those moves where once he turns 29 and they're going to be like, how are you changing your game? He'll be like, well, I started finally taking care of my body You can't convince me that even with the nap in between Jalen Green has not had at least a couple times this year where he's like had a nasty burp while running up and down the Court yeah, I'm like ooh because those you know like the three hour later chicken alfredo burps. You're like, yeah, that's gross Yeah, creamy alfredo and That's gross. Yeah creamy Alfredo and Glass of red wine before I get out there on the court. Yeah, I'll do it Yeah, I mean lasagna was the only one I could come up with

If you're just picking with the pasta, I don't know what it like a perro perrogee dinner would be tough, too Yeah, perrogee would be would be tough. But those are that's another one where they don't give you like a ton Yeah, but when I get them I get like four different kinds Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely Progi might be the most underrated pasta dish. I don't even count it as pasta because it's Polish Yeah, but it's got the it's got the pasta around. Yeah. Yeah, that's just a Polish pasta. Uh, Okay, Nick's Pistons Nick's win. Jalen Brunson was great. He was great Say something positive about Jim, but also cat was great. I bet Kat to have a bounce back game. I feel like this is just what Kat does. Next game he's probably going to be invisible. The game after he's

going to be awesome. Also, the Knicks turns out passing the ball works because I felt like they passed the ball a lot better. It wasn't just Isoball. And the Pistons fought till the bitter end. I think the end of the game, the last like 10 seconds took like 25 minutes. There was a bunch of reviews, the game and inbound. I think the clock operator gave him a little something, something extra and they kept on fighting, kept on fighting. Uh, yeah. Jalen Bronson was good.

This was, uh, something nice about Jalen Bronson. Yeah. I mean, he was, he was definitely more fun to watch tonight, but that's what we said when the Knicks win they tend to be It's easier to look at them as being fun. And when they lose you look at them, you're like god damn it Knicks Why are you burning yourselves out? This isn't fun, but brand of basketball to watch. Yeah, they had 15 assists on Was it Monday night? There are two wins in this series. I think they had 22 and 26 assists

So I know that's not an advanced analytics thing. It's not a huge crazy step, but it does feel like with the Knicks passed the ball a little bit more, get Carl Anthony Towns involved. And he was involved early. I think he had like 11 or 13 in the first quarter. He had 25 halfway through the third. Did you watch it makes a big difference? Yeah. Is it the very end? Yeah, no, I just said it took like 25 minutes. Yeah. So, but yeah, what happened because yeah, the Knicks were shooting foul shots and they intentionally missed the second half a second left And what happened was the home clock operator for the Pistons?

Started the clock as the free throw was still happening And so the clock ticked down to zero the buzzer sounds the whole deal before they even get a chance to rebound it So what happens is then you have the pistons that get a free inbound. The clock stops and you get to inbound the ball and attempt a shot as opposed to working out perfectly for the Knicks. The game's over at that point if the Knicks hadn't had the buzzer sound on them because they missed the free throw beautifully. And that was that.

That is a loophole. And I'm actually not mad at the clock operator. No, that's what I'm saying. It was a home. Yeah. Yeah. You need the help. It's a great job by the home clock operator.

That's definitely a trick that he saw at some point during a regular season and you mentally file that away as a clock operator and you're like, when the team needs me, I've got the best play that I can do to contribute to the win. Like, what do you do? Do you kick the clock operator out? I know what I do. Hold on. You call Rico Bosco. Yeah. I mean he was watching the game. He's a Knicks fan. He's got to know he's a clock operator. We got to get his take on. He's probably so

pissed. Oh yeah. He's got to be so pissed. There's no way he's still up, right? He tuned out the draft. Oh no, the Giants are picking right now. He might be he might be live. Oh, this is bad if he doesn't pick up my phone. Oh, what was that email? Your call has been fine. Rico Bosco replacement. Yeah, we'll email that if anyone wants a job. Okay. Grizzlies are getting killed. I'm sorry. Grizzlies are killing the thunder. Yeah. Cause the genders are getting killed. Yeah. Under getting killed down by 15 nine minutes left in the second. That's just wait. That's Clippers. Yeah. You're looking at Clippers. That was

a bad 30 seconds by both of us. Let's just restart. All right. Here we go. I didn't know what you're looking to one thunder or getting killed. PFT 77 to 51 and a half. That's crazy. It is crazy. I didn't expect that. I, uh, just wait, just wait, just wait. You think they're going to come back and we heard it here first. I think the thunder are going to come back. I'm going to say Grizzlies. Yeah. This is one of my favorite things to bet in, in, uh, the playoffs is just if a team goes down it's it's two rules because I gave out the Rockets on Wednesday show I said take the Rockets if a home team goes down 0 1 take them in game 2 if a road team goes down 0 2 you know they lose the first

two games on the road take them game 3 at home the bounce back game. Yeah this this could be a true gentleman sweep here. Yeah. Memphis had to do something at home, but I'll tell you what, huge for the, uh, aggregate score. Yeah. Massive. Cause they were, it was trending to be like a, the thunder beat the Grizzlies by a hundred plus. Now they might be able to even it out a little bit. So the Thunder in the first half have only made one three pointer. They're one, four, five, one, one for eleven from three right now. So they will not come back and win this game if that continues. But I remain hopeful that they'll get it within ten. Yeah. By the way, and then the other game, the Clippers look really

good. You know, we'll maybe we'll update it because we. Yeah. Got the way. And then the other game, the Clippers look really good. We you know, we'll maybe we'll update it because we're gonna we're taping all out of order. We'll see some more of that game. Let's talk some hockey. Your caps are up to Oh, to most dangerously in hockey to most dangerously in hockey. You feel good? Yeah, we got a good Logan Thompson game last night. Okay, so feel good. Yeah. So like I've been saying, the goaltending is a big question. Logan Thompson, he was the way they put it on the broadcast last night was Logan

Thompson is their one a goaltender. Oh, and they I don't think they really followed it up with anything. But when you say that, you strongly imply that there's a one B behind it. Right? Meaning that you don't really have a goaltender. But he played he played really well last night, he made some incredible saves in the third period so that he was responsible for the win. Then obviously Connor McMichael great game. Some of the guys it wasn't as dominant as performance as we saw in like the first two periods of the first game. Win to win. Escape the barn to nothing. Keep it on on schedule and then up to Montreal, where Oldie will be joining me in Montreal.

Show me around. Ha ha. So, shout out to all the Canadian ends up there. I guess you speak French in Montreal. So I took four years of French in elementary school. Elementary school. Elementary school. We.

And I'm going- Elementary school. Yeah. In my elementary school, it had like two periods a day that you could go like I learned math in French And I learned science in French. Whoa, the fucked up thing is doing division in French It's completely different from doing it in English So then I got to middle school and I was like how the fuck do you do division now? Holy shit? Yeah, screw me up for a while. Damn. Um, but yeah, I think I still remember some French stuff. We la bibliotech. And blood to beer. You're reading off your computer.

No, I'm not. I just saw you. I'm not. You want to like, yes, this bibliotech right there. That's the thunder grizzly score is bibliotech live score. So yeah, I'm pumped to check out Montreal and just basically pumped to spend time with Oldie. Yeah, it's gonna be great. Caps look good. I still feel like it's our year. I am keeping an eye, a very close eye on the Maple Leafs though.

Ooh, yeah. So they are Team Desi. By the way, Rico just texted me back. This is big for us because I see sometimes there's a complaint that our NHL recap is not long enough. We will have biz on next week. We're not the experts in hockey. We do have hockey experts we'll have on, but this will all count towards the NHL recap and the timestamps. So we'll have Rico and that will be part of

it. Bosco. Yeah, I called. What do you mean? You saw that I called. Yeah, well, I mean, what was that question? You saw that I called pocket. I could have been a pocket dial could have been, you know, I don't know. Okay. All right. All right. So we're taping PMT right now. What happened at the end of the Knicks Pistons game in terms of a clock operators point of view? Yeah, I'm being a little dunked on because I'm calling the guy the Pistons clock operator. They say it's a neutral clock operator for the playoffs. So people are getting mad about that. But either way, basically the guy operating the clock at the Pistons should be fired.

It's horrific. I expect that error from a fucking mom volunteer at St. Anne's who had a couple of cocktails up at Lee's in between the five o'clock game. Very relatable. Very relatable. All familiar with St. Anne's, Lee's. I do not expect this from a pro.

You gotta be banned, you gotta turn in your card, your credential. It's horrific. And I said spin zone. I know you guys love the spin zones on that show. Oh shit. This sets a precedent that, you know, if you got your hooks into Detroit or you want to

see who's going to win, you just do the error and hope the team gets a rebound and then they take it out on the side with a chance to win. You know what I mean? Well, yeah. Yeah. That's what the play was. Yeah. So walk us through what you thought should have happened.

You got to fucking wait till someone touches the ball, man. It's a day one mistake. Yeah. So do you think it was intentional, Rico? I think that the possibility it could have been intentional. Yeah. Okay. And so you got some information saying that it's a neutral clock operator.

So they fly these guys in? I guess. Yeah. I think it might be the ultimate. I don't really know. I'm being honest. I don't really I'm be honest. I don't know I was nice college has college has table steps You know whatever like seeing the whole guys who work there and whatever in and out of the NBA table say if I have not cracked You haven't cracked it. Can you can you crack that for us?

I'll try yeah, I do know the guy at the garden. I email him every year, hey, you know, have a great season. I like hoping if you need anything, I'm available. Like, put me in the rotation. And he just says thanks. I'll keep you in mind that he, for the last 10 years, he has not put me in his rotation. You're talking about the Madison Square Garden. You wanted to do the clock there. I would start doing the book. I would start being his spotter. I would start. Yeah.

Do they have a book store? You know you have a job, right? Yeah, Dan. I'm saying from 10 years ago I used to fucking email the guys. But then you said you emailed them every year. I know. I was, you know. Never give up on your dreams. A little exaggeration, Mike. You know, like Billy Joel said know. I was, you know, I never give up on your dreams. A little exaggeration. Like, you know, like Billy Joel said about fucking when he wrote Piano Man, like, you

know, like, there's a little exaggeration. Piano Man. Yeah, when he wrote about Piano Man. Wait, wait, Rico. I got a question for you. Do they still have a book? They still have a what? Is it still a book?

I would figure that it would be just a computer system by now. No, you still do pen and paper in the book. Okay, Rico. Is it still a book I would figure that it would be just a computer system by now Okay Rico last question say something about hockey because this is all going in the hockey recap and we need to just be like yeah We actually were talking hockey that time No, no, no, no, I said say something about hockey We love Murls. A goal scorer. We're chasing the plus sign because we don't know shit about hockey. Say something about the NHL playoffs. I got Vegas to win the cup and they look like shit. Last game, big favorite. They're losing tonight or as we speak it's two to one. Yeah, I'm in trouble with my system. It's four to one. It's four to one. Rico update. It's four to one Rico update. It's four to one

Yeah, four to one Jesus Christ. Yeah. Okay good puck recap Yeah, yeah, yeah All right. Thanks. Okay. Thank you Rico crack that crack that case for us. Yeah, please do All right, okay that crack that case for us yeah please do it might take it might take a long time to crack that case because I did by Rico can hang up yeah hang up okay yeah it's gonna take a while to crack that I just did a Google search and in approximately 0.5 seconds I found out yes it is a neutral clock operator that they fly out to play off sites. So consider that nut cracked. That could be a hockey take. I'm gonna I have to text him what was

speaking of the Kraken because that could have been you cut out. Yeah that might have been a good joke. Okay, Lee's here. Oh wait he's gonna say speaking of the Kraken how about that fat fuck Max in his pants. That's what he's gonna say. I'm not making the joke Rico was gonna say. No I intercepted his joke. No you said it. I intercepted it then I threw it to my own team. Who's your team? I pitched it back to you Max. Yeah you returned it. Thanks. Um Leafs year. Overtime winner. It might be the Leafs here Inside not worth on the pod inside barstool question all good what he was on the pod when speaking of the Kraken We're Rico isn't capable of going on to a barstool podcast without saying something actually let's keep this off of this Yeah, like what do you mean you were on?

Okay, I mean loves bringing up on a podcast. Let's not keep this in the pie. Yeah, I did Thank you for asking me on the part of my take so I can talk about the one thing in the world I'm an expert analysis clock operator I don't know the answer to the question and also I'd like to talk to you about my future Employment at Boston sports by the way Lee's The pizza place he said very good. I actually have been there. Okay, can you get cocktail cocktail I've never I've never been a female coaching eighth grade at St. Ansel okay so not that's where the relatability fell off got it yeah but yeah it does feel like the Leafs here yeah they look really really good although it would be very very funny they

get a three nothing lead that would be funny pft listen I don't I'm not wishing that for the Toronto Maple Leafs but it would be fun be funny. Even if you're a Leafs fan you're thinking that goddamn this would just be comedy. Yeah. If you're a fan of comedy you will appreciate it. They've done it again. Yeah. Yeah and Panthers by the way Panthers who are the defending Stanley Cup champion up 2-0 on the Lightning. I'm worried about the Avs. That was bad. Another overtime loss two in a row.

That feels bad. That's a bad feeling, especially how late the games are. Again, you can just be personally. They're bad. If you're the Avs, you can just blame the system. Yeah, we shouldn't be playing these guys in the first round. Come on. Yeah, the system is fucked up. You're right. Pft. Yeah. Fight

the powers of it was the system that got me. You know what's great about the system though? Free bird has become the NHL theme song now. Yeah, I know. They play it like six times a night in and out. Yeah. It's so good of the commercials. And by the way, the Kings, I wish I had known about the harmonica band before, uh, the playoffs because I would have bet the Kings, they got to do every game, right? Every single game. The fact they brought it back is like, that's a team that is there. They got their eye. They got their ear to the street. That was very smart of them. Uh, how long was that hockey talk? Uh, 17 minutes.

Oh, I love it. I love it. I just made that number. Okay. Yeah We will have an expert on though are any goalies standing on their heads I would assume Let's see Bennington. I feel like has been standing on his head the last two games. He's capable No, they're they're down to oh, they're winning right now. Actually. I'm watching right now. He just gave up a goal So that was a bad a bad call. You pushed him off his own head Oh, uh the the Bob right the Bob ski. Yeah, he had a shutout tonight Bobrovsky standing on his own head. That was pretty good I thought that Logan Thompson stood on his head for about two periods last night. Yes. There you go

That's good. So that's a big time standing on the head. Mm-hmm, and I feel like the Devils haven't scored any goals. I might be wrong, but it feels like the Devils haven't scored any goals. They might have scored like one or two goals. Maybe even more than that, but it feels, doesn't it feel like to you? Mm-hmm. Also, whoever the star's goalie is, Oddinger, is that who the star's goalie is? Yeah. He's been definitely standing on his head because he's won two overtime games It's it's really hard to say after one round of the Stanley Cup playoffs Who is looking like they could win the cup because you don't know with the matchups that they have right? Like it could all be a war team that you're playing against. I was looking at the the Stanley Cup bracket today and I know it's the same as the NBA in terms of numbers of rounds

But for some reason it feels so much harder to get to a Stanley Cup final than it does to get to an NBA Completely agree. Yeah, what's time between games? Yeah, they play every other night real size. That is very nice They do that. It's easy to anyone can win an NBA title. It's not even really a championship Stanley Cup. Now, that's that's a sport Hank oh That wasn't referring to Hank Stanley Cup. Now that's that's a sport. Hank. Oh, that wasn't referring to Hank. They've been selling stuff 18 NBA titles. But he's coming at you right now about these play. I'm saying like, easy, easy to win.

It's not I don't know. I'm supposed to say there. I mean, you just cakewalk through the east. It's trying to poke you. It's not the Cavs. The Cavs are good. And magic are tough. Mm hmm trying to poke you. It's not the calves, the calves are good and magic are tough. Next, Bing Bong. I'm dying to know what this cracking joke is. And he won't say it. He keeps saying more of a bad joke, all good in cab home. Have a good show.

In cab home. So he can't talk. He can't talk. He can't talk in a cab. I'm gonna say right now, the Clippers are up two one. Calling it. Okay. You like that? Putting a pin in it making an early call it is they're better than the Nuggets It's it's just I think they are it's the second quarter. Yep, and they're up 18 Okay, and I'm gonna say it right now. I mean the Clippers Hank you had it you said it the other day

Clippers might be a problem Barstoolool Sports is projecting that the LA Clippers have won this game. Yeah, we're calling it. It's not too early to call. We're calling this fight. The Clippers are up 2-1, and the Clippers are good. And we'll see. I mean, James Harden's playing well tonight.

Did you see what they did in LA to try to distract Jokic? No. This was great. Pull this up on the TV max TV max this by the way still counts As NHL talk it yet is where this is technically NH is that actually horse racing talk. Yeah, so at At Intuit dome they have horse hats that they put in the front row tonight to distract yokich Look at these hats. Let me see it. Oh, I love it. They're like full-on horses. I love it Look at that, so they're trying to distract him with it

I think however this could be it could be a bad move I could see a world where this backfires where yoga it's like when you have real baddie sitting in the front row Yeah, and then all of a sudden Jordan pools dropping 62 points. He gets in his Zen spot Yeah, so yoga sees these horses and he's like I got a stunt for these hoes Just say the fucking joke, dude I okay that was that do the cracking You were gonna say something about the crack you said the thing about the cracking All right, okay bye, all right

That was bad That would have been such an all-time moment if he said I was gonna say cracking like Max's belt. Yeah, that would have been way better. But good thing we got you ready for that, Max, just in case he did say it. Thanks, guys. Yeah, you are ready. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.

He's got skills in that thing that we're doing. Yeah, that thing we're doing. You gotta keep it under wraps. Okay, he treats the most inconsequential stuff like they're the nuclear coast. Correct. Correct. Every you got to just be worried that the FBI is listening at all times. Okay, should we get to our interview with Justin Thomas? Let's do it. All right. Before we get to JT is brought to you by our good friends over at truly hard seltzer and their new truly unruly lemonade. The stuff is delicious. It tastes so good. It is also 8% ABV, 8% alcohol. You know it's strong. You know it tastes great. They've got the wild pink lemonade. The bumpin' blue razz is my favorite. Also OG lemonade and they've got the wild pink and punched up pineapple too. Great flavors. It's lemonade let loose. Lemonade, perfect drink for the summertime hundred percent delicious and eight percent alcohol

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We've got to start with the question we always ask when we have a golfer on after they've won. Has it hit the account yet? Yes. Oh, this morning? Uh, at some point today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How was that refresh when you, when you looked it up? Probably pretty good. Uh, to be, to be honest, I, I didn't see it firsthand, but I know, I do know it's there. Someone told you. Exactly. Yeah, that they saw it. Yeah.

Okay. That's a great feeling. Yeah. Do you still have the plaid jacket? Do you take that with you? You can. It wasn't my size, so they're sending me my size. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. It's a pretty cool jacket, I would say. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Yeah. My cousin is adamant that he's wearing it to his sister's wedding this fall. So we'll see how that goes. Yeah. You gotta let them. So, all right. So incredible

win for you. It had been three years, uh, really happy you're back in, you know, up at the top of your game. How, what has the three years been like? Because you, you know, you went through some ups and downs. Golf is a brutal sport. Was there ever a moment where you're like, I might not find it again, even though I know I can do this? I mean, a little bit. It's been a while. I can't believe it was three years. I mean, I feel like the first year felt like it was forever and that it took forever. And then last year felt like I played better and gave myself some chances. It just didn't get it done. And then it was kind of joking with the media when I got done that it luckily on my end had been so long. Like I was past the point of of being asked every week like, you know, it's been this long since you've won, like, when's it

gonna happen? I was like, you guys basically just you had to move on. You had other stuff that you need to talk about. So that was way in the past that I, I didn't have to worry about it anymore, which was nice, but or be reminded of it, I should say, but there's definitely some times mentally where you're, I just was trying to remind myself that it is really hard to win. And there's a reason there's only one of them

every single week and, and to try to somehow stay patient that not my time would come, but that's always easier said than done. Yeah. It was funny because I saw something, I think it was on NBC and some of the analysts were talking about your career and because you, you won this weekend, they said, I could make an argument that he is the best American player of his generation, which is really crazy that they said that like right after you won, as if that's the reason why it's not anything else. Have you, he is the best American player of his generation. Which is really crazy that they said that like right after you won as if that's the reason why it's not anything else. Have you thought about like what that win like now you're officially in the conversation because of

this one win? Yeah, I laughed as somebody had said that it's like, well, you know, where I didn't hear that being said at all in the last, you know, the last couple of years, it just somehow it was a big win for me, but apparently I didn't know it was that at all in the last couple of years. It just somehow, it was a big win for me, but I didn't know it was that big. So I guess that's great. But you know how sports are, they have a lot of recency bias in there. And anytime that everybody wants to talk about whoever's the most recent winner or who's playing the best at that time.

But I mean, I do know over the course of my career, I've been fortunate to rack up a good amount of wins and, and, and different things here and there. But you know, I got a lot more that I want to accomplish. So hopefully by the end of my career, I have a little better argument than, you know, some people just saying they, they think that after one win type thing. Yeah, you were dog shit last week and now this week, you're one of the best of all time. So congratulations. Does it, is there a thing where you get a week and now this week you're one of the best of all time. So Congratulations does it is there a thing where you you get a win and you feel like you might be able to go out there and Play just like a little bit lighter like a little bit more free without the expectation

For sure. I got more and more comfortable each time I'd get in contention. I'd say this year I think last year I was I put so much pressure on myself every time I got in contention that I had to win and that and And I just felt like I it was really hard But I never played well on Sundays I mean I would have some good finishes but I never Really had a chance the last couple holes or the back nine and then I feel like this year I tried to learn from that a little bit and and then really I'm just trying to be more patient and let it happen. And so I feel I'm just trying to learn from the

past couple of years of mistakes of trying too hard almost, but that's always another thing in golf. That's way easier said than done. Yeah. All right. I got a dumb question for you. It's a who's the alpha question. I saw that you credited Xander Schauffele for helping you with your putting. Now a who's the alpha question. I saw that you credited Zander Shafley for helping you with your putting Now are you the alpha because you basically tricked one of your competitors? I know you guys are friends, but your competition into helping you or see the alpha because Justin Thomas can't win again without Zander Shafley's help Damn that is it. I don't know if that's a stupid question. That's a good question.

Thank you. Yeah, it's because I read it. I read it and obviously the initial how normal human beings should think is that's a really cool story. Guys helping each other out. I obviously read it was like, well, now I got to figure out who's got the edge here. I think you have the edge now. I think he had the edge until you won. Yeah. And then he's like, yeah, he's coming to me for advice. I'll give him a couple of pointers here and there. But now that poor fella, this poor little guy, I'll help him out. Yeah. Cause now, now you can take what he taught you and then like add one small wrinkle. Here's what really put me over the top. Right. And then teach him. You have to give him advice back.

Or do I? Or do you? That's the thing. I think, I think to really, to really make sure that I've, I'm standing my ground in this alpha battle is if I get asked down the road, just be like, now I'm good. Yeah. Well, you also can't let Xander come up to you and be like, Hey JT, you want, you want another tip so you can win again? Cause that would be devastating. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Honestly, I don't give a shit. I'll take a tip from you.

As long as I keep winning tournaments, I don't care how I get them. Yeah, you can leave these debates up to us. Because we have endless amounts of time to do the dumbest circular debates that make no sense. So we'll handle this. How does it feel? Like, obviously, this win is big,

but it's also a rider cup year. I know you want to be back on the team. It had to have been a little uncomfortable two years ago where you were just like, your name was hotly debated not you weren't, you weren't out there saying like, Oh, I need to be on the team. But it was being, you were part of the debate of who makes the last spot. Is that part of like a motivation this year being like, Hey, I want to get it. So I'm not in this debate anymore. I'm just on the team. For sure. Uh, the last having to rely on a pick for, for Rome and then hoping to get a pick to the president's cup last year and not, it's, it sucks. Like it's the worst feeling ever. And, um,

I mean, it's kind of hard for ever. And I mean, it's kind of hard to like be looking for sympathy or for people to feel bad for you. Because I mean, it's my own fault. I mean, if I would have played better or put myself in a position where I qualified, I wouldn't have had to deal with it. I was fortunate that I haven't had to had passed. And I like being an automatic qualifier and being a part of this conversations of who the picks are a lot more. So I definitely want to make sure that I'm not relying on a pick because it's not a fun place to be in. And it's just, it's, you know, you're damned if you do damned if you don't, but as long as I can get that top six, I don't have to worry about it. In the Ryder Cup, when we're playing on the road, what are the things that the opposing crowd can do that makes life very difficult for a Ryder Cup golfer?

It's, man, it's, it's so bizarre. It's, it's just, it's such a, it's just uncomfortable. I think it's, it's hard to explain, but it's just a, you know, you don't have the difference of other sports where it's, you know, it's not like they're loud while you're hitting or anything. It's still golf. And I think that's what's such a unique and different part of it compared to other sports. But it's just the roars for them versus the roars for the US or, you know, the shit that's maybe being said to you between shots or walking from grains to tees, whatever it is, I just think there's just little things

there that if you aren't ready for it mentally, or if you maybe aren't sure how to cope with it, it can be really, really tough. And it's just not something that we ever deal with. So it's not a good rep for our soft golf image that we have, it's just not something that we ever deal with. So it's, um, it's not really, it's not a good rep for our soft golf image that we have. That's for sure. Yeah. I mean, long Island's going to be ready. We know that. Uh, but if there's going to be like, I'm trying to find the small differences, the details that the fans can be on that might give

a boost. Like what's it, what's it like if you're playing in Europe and you hit a shot, it's a terrible shot. It goes in the water. And then to hear the crowd erupt and cheer after you hit it. Cause on the tour, you never get that. That never happens. If you hit a shot, it's a terrible shot. It goes in the water. And then to hear the crowd erupt and cheer after you hit it, because on the tour, you never get that, that never happens. If you hit a bad shot, everyone's like, oh, oh no, oh dear. But out there, they're like, fuck yeah, this guy just screwed up, that's awesome.

Yeah, it is. It really is a little stuff like that, but it honestly, it's the difference of roars for us versus them. Like it's wild and it's hard to explain But it's you know when depending on the golf course how the routing is that if you're three or four holes away from You know the first match out near the last match You know when you hear a roar if it was for you or for them Depending on where you are and it's just when the crowd gets really loud

behind your team, I think it's probably more of what it is. It's just the support for the home team versus the disadvantage for the away, like the taunting or whatnot of the away team. Cause like you said, it's Long Island. It's gonna be chippy. And we all know that I'm glad I'm just glad they're on our team. Yeah. Stu finders going to be there

for Scotty. Yeah. That's going to be a bunch of Stu finders out there. Long Island people just going nuts. I also dumb question. So you win the RBC heritage. You beat Andrew Novak. He has not won a tournament before. What's the proper amount of like, uh, talk afterwards? Because that's a tricky situation where I know if like I lose and someone's like trying to like, you don't want to pat them on the back too much, but you also want to be like, Hey dude, you played great. So what, how is that conversation? Yeah, I just, I mean, first off it's kind of, it was kind of like a blackout moment. Like I'm a little unconscious of kind of the celebrating and what's going on.

And then it is, it's, it's just like, Oh God, I have to take my hat off, like shake this guy's hand now. But it was a, I mean, I just said, you know, great, great plan this week and you know, we'll see in a couple of weeks. That's pretty much all it is. There's not, there's, there's not a whole lot. There is a funny story. Uh, a handful of years ago, Jordan Spieth was in a playoff with Tom Gillis, who

is not, doesn't play professionally anymore. And Jordan beat Tom at a playoff. And for the whole year, Jason Duffner was grilling Jordan. He's like, man, he's like, you just ruined Tom Gillis his career. He could have been, he would have had a two year exemption. He would have been in Maui, Kapalua. He would have taken his family there. They would have been swimming with the dolphins at the tournament champions, but you had to beat them in a playoff and ruin his life. Oh, man. Oh, it's probably, yeah. I mean, he's not playing anymore. Yeah. Yeah. Change his name and go into comedy. Yeah. Hopefully, hopefully Andrew Novak wins one. So you're not, you

know, it's not like, Hey, Justin Thomas, he was that close. And then Justin Thomas ended it for you. Got to be the biggest Novak fan in the world now. Yeah. I've, I, I got faith that Gilly was a little closer to the end of his career and Andrew's playing well. So I, I, boy, I haven't thought of that after saying the story. And yeah, I definitely hope that it pans out now. Yeah. Do you, um, if you're in the lead going into the, going into Sunday, do you talk with your opponent? Because I know Bryson was a little miffed is miffed at Rory for not chopping it up out there on the course. Uh, I, yeah, I feel like a lot of guys just do their own thing, but yeah,

what do you do? They do, especially when's two sims. I think when it's three sims, it's it's way slower and like you're just Something it just it's different like you have way more time that you're waiting and like you just kind of happen to talk more But I mean when it's two sims, there's times where you just are kind of someone hits it this way Someone hits it this way and you kind of you're just you're going your way, just you and your caddy the whole time. And also, yeah, I'm not really out there to, to like have a big conversation. I mean, you'll catch up here and there, but I'd say that's pretty, pretty normal amongst everybody that we're just out there taking care or trying to take care of business. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to comment at all about Alabama football? No, I'm good. Okay. That's, that's interesting. Cause I would

feel like if we had had you on at any point in the last nine years, you would have been like, fuck yeah, I do. Um, how's it going? Actually my Badgers have to go to Tuscaloosa. That's going to suck for me. I went to the game. I went to the game in September this year at Camp Randall and uh, I think the batters are up three nothing I was like this doesn't mean anything and I had an Alabama fan sitting next to me They're like, yeah, we're not worried and then you guys won like 42 to 3 or something So you get that win, but yeah other than that are you it was it was an interesting year It's we got a lot of spoiled Alabama fans my I'm not near as bad as I used to be

I think I used to be unbearable to watch games with at least that's what I've been told. But I mean, hey, it's it was first year for coach and I hate what's going on in NCAA sports right now with the NIL and the transferring. I just think it's not not good for college sports and the athletes in general. But you know, we're basketball school now. Oh, good spin zone. Oh, okay. How many, uh, yeah. How many championship games have you guys been to? What's that? You guys have been to a bunch of championship games, right? In basketball and basketball. All right. I get it. What, what about, uh, do you, do you as an Alabama fan acknowledge Rico Bosco is an Alabama fan. Rico Bosco is an Alabama fan.

Yeah. All right. So there we go. That was the answer we needed. He's a NATO NATO fan. He's a NATO fan over everything. So he just rides NATO NATO says he's I'm a big NATO fan. I remember the first time I ever made met him. It was like an Alabama charity event for the golf team and he was just he had just gotten signed as a coach and he's just mowing down an ice cream cone. And he's like, what do you do? I was like, I play golf. He's like, nice. I don't know anything about golf. I was like, sounds good coach. I'll see you down the road. Wait, so did you, have you given some money to the new Alabama facilities? Cause it looks insane.

I have. Yeah. It's nuts, man. It's uh, I don't know. I, I, I told coach see, well, our, our golf coach, this is the most impressive thing he's ever done as a coach to raise that much money in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. That's a, that facility is, it's just bananas and they, um, yeah, I, all the good stuff happened after I left school. Yeah. So how many, uh, like eight or nine win seasons for the football team before we're starting to do some repo work on the golf stuff and being like, all right, we're selling this simulator. We're, we're downside. We're, we're raising this whole building because we got to get the money back to the football program.

Yeah. That, you know, that's, that's true. They may have to start like, uh, leasing or renting out like half of the golf facility, like have people living in the locker room, like that. Yeah, they'll find a way you know, that's what the that's what the athletic departments for. Yeah, when you're looking back to 2016 2017. Are you like, man, those spring breaks were movies? Absolute Scenes? The golf bros? Yeah, yeah, it was pretty good. Which one was better in 2016 or 2017? Um, the first I the first one was was was better. It was 20 2016. Because it was it was our first time and it was I felt like the the next year we went like we wanted to do it but it was it felt like we like had to, and it was, you know, we had to like, uh,

be posting a certain, it was just, it was different. It took away the, the fun of the, you know, the debauchery of a, of a boy strip of just playing golf and just, you know, drinking beers all the time. But I think the first one was better just with how Sunday went in the Masters for Jordan and Smiley being in the final group and not, and Smiley playing poorly and Jordan having a tough back nine and not winning. So it was, everything was needed for that trip. Yeah. Just set like a nice reset on there. That's how a lot of these vacations

go. You go on a trip with your boys, you have a great time and everybody's like, we got to do this again every year. And then you try to do it the second year. And it's kind of like the first one, but it's maybe not quite as fun. But it was a good group of dudes. If you go back to the same place, for sure. I have, I have tried to pretty much every year since I've left home, I'm really close with a group of guys. So I went to high school with them. I do a boys trip with them every year of we just, you know, we'll have three, three, four of us. And I mean, now that everyone's got families, it gets pretty tough. But and I'm just like, you know, we just need to whether they come here, we go somewhere and but we try to do somewhere different. And it's it's a blast.

Do you play golf on your boys trips? Yeah, because that's all they want to do I'll bring like a left-handed set sometimes I have one friend who talks a lot of shit and I just love beating him left-handed Because then he can't say anything and it really really really hurts him inside. So I remind him of that. Yeah, that's such a dick move, but I respect it. That's what best friends do to each other Yeah, what do you shoot left-handed? What's that? What do you shoot left-handed? I've only played full 18 holes twice,

and I'm kind of like right around 100. But I can shoot mid-40s if I'm not drinking. When I start drinking, if I'm drinking and I'm playing left-handed, like, it is bad. I can't. I just hit a point, and I'm like,, this, I don't know why you guys play golf. Like this isn't fun.

I can't do anything I want to do. Yeah. Yeah. That's how we play golf. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much every time we go out. All right.

So Hank has, uh, he's right here. He's, he's a, our golf pro. You got some questions for, for JT Hank? Yeah. A couple of questions. Uh, JT, you're, you're a whoop guy I've been I've been wearing my whoop my first question I was just curious like what the stress stats differences between like a Sunday back nine and maybe like a Thursday you

know Thursday Friday first first or second round like is there a big difference and is there a way for you to like simulate pressure when you're when you're practicing like that It's a good question. I'm Haven't looked at this the stress before I'm gonna have my phone right here. I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you Just full-blown raw data because I saw they posted Rory's like and when he was in the playoff at at sawgrass and it was like his His stress went all the way low before he hit his his playoff shot on 17. It's like it seems crazy to me to be able to control that but obviously that's what you. Yeah like I've done some some some stuff in past of like yeah I mean it looks like

they were pretty similar it was a little lower on Thursday and Friday than it was on Sunday Thursday and Friday than it was on Sunday, but pretty similar. But I mean, I've done like some stuff, some breath work stuff to where I know how to at least try to kind of get my heart rate down. My heart rate is higher, I would say way higher than Rory's or some other people. But it's more of just kind of like my getting it to my whatever baseline is type thing. Yeah. You ever do the back away where you're, you're about to hit a big putt and you're like, no, it's just not right. Something's not right. Step away.

Yeah. Yeah. I've backed. I mean, it's, I've backed off a bunch. It's, it's just a, I think if for me, I'm very visual and, and I'm like kind of artistic in the sense of like what I'm seeing, if I'm putting, like I want to be able to kind of see the line or see the trace. And if I'm over a shot, same type of thing. And if I don't have like a clear vision or somewhat of an idea of what I'm doing, it's not good.

But you know, I've hit many a shots when I haven't backed off when I should have but yeah when I don't Have that that's generally when I'm when I'm backing off to try to get some kind of idea Yeah, thank you. Anything else. Yeah, I'm a big I'm a bad golfer and in a mental headcase at that and I'm a big fan of Seeing like one Instagram reel with the tip and then just completely changing everything I do and I saw one Recently that was Patrick Cantlay talking about how he only uses one wedge around the greens where he used to have the different numbers and try the different shots and stuff. And he got better once he was like,

I'm just gonna use a 60, or I think he said 61, which I didn't understand. But I'm just gonna use a 61 and just use that for everything. And I was like, I think I'm gonna start doing that, even though I never have before. And I was curious of that, because it made sense to me where it's like you think less, you know what club you're going to hit. But obviously you have a great short game and,

you know, you probably need different shots. But is that something you would would recommend or thought about? Yeah, it's funny because like Mike, who caddies for me now used to caddy for Patrick for a while. So I mean, I've known him not only through caddy for me, but before that. And, and Pat is also someone who's, he knows a lot of different things about the game, but he'll kind of subtly pick guys brains and when he wants to learn stuff. And I remember there was kind of like a, you know, six months or so or a year where he was really asking a lot of chipping questions. And then I happened to be talking about it with my caddy rev a couple months ago

about using different clubs. And he was like, yeah, he's like, I don't know if you remember, but you know, it's some team event or some event. He's like, Pat was just grilling you about questions about using this. Like it was me, him and Jordan. I think we're playing and he was asking Jordan. I have so many questions. So again, something we that we just apparently we like to make all of our peers better instead of keep all of the information to ourselves, it seems like. But it's kind of a whatever fits the player. I mean, I a lot of guys predominantly just take a lob wedge and try to

fly it close to the hole with as much spin as they can. but it changes a lot each week depending on the grass. But I like to use kind of whatever club is more of like a first instinct. I don't know which day this was, maybe Thursday or Friday. The one that you played out of the mud where the ball was sitting up towards the top, because I think every golfer has been in that situation. They see their ball, they're like, I can play this. So you take a giant swing at it and immediately afterwards you can see the look on your face. You're just like, well, that was stupid because you're like covered in mud at the time. Is that a shot that you practice? It's actually really funny you say that because I, it just, it was something where,

I mean, normally it's, it's not, it wouldn't be worth it. It just was where, where I was going to have to drop it. I, I was getting zero advantage. Like I was still behind a bunch of trees and I was, I was likely going to have to chip out and I was like, well, I know that if I catch this how I want, I can actually get it to the fairway and have a chance to maybe make a par. And in the worst case, it'll just dribble out, which is going to be a little bit better, but pretty similar to where if I just drop. So I feel like it's worth the risk. And as I'm kind of going through it, I said to Joe, who was filling in for Rev, I was like, hey, I was like, you just kind of like hit like a bunker shot, right? And he's like, yeah. And I hit that. And obviously, he got shit all over

me. And the whole goes on. I'm walking up there. I was like, by the way, I've never hit one out of the water before, so I did not know. I was like, I thought that was kind of weird why you asked me that. I'm like, well, I felt like if I told you beforehand that I hadn't hit one out of the water you weren't gonna Let me hit it out of the water, so I waited till afterwards It's like yeah, I mean the ball was taunting you though It was in the perfect position for you to at least give it a shot I know and I think I just was so worried about Trying to lift it up in the air and kind of almost like topping it or hitting it into the walk like down into it that I

Was like I just have to stay down and I have to hit down on this thing Like I'm taking a big divot. Yeah, and I just went I Overdid it so much that I went completely under it. Yeah, and it was just yeah water and dirt It was very relatable. So so your current caddy Joe who is Max's caddy he's he's doing caddying while your current caddy, Joe, who is Max's caddy, he's, he's doing caddying while your real caddy is injured. Is he coming back soon? Yeah, yeah. I actually saw him today. He's doing, he's doing a lot better. He, he probably could have caddied last week, but it wouldn't have been smart. But I have a tournament,

yeah, in two weeks and, and Reve will be back. He just, he's had some disc issues in his back. So, so Joe had a, was fortunate. I was fortunate he was able to come fill in and, and we had a nice, nice little week last week. Yeah. I mean, we're, so we're very loyal to Max. He said it was good with him and Joe. So we're, we, we weren't mad at you or Joe, but we, there was a moment where our guns out and we're like, do we need to, do we need to? Hey, I reached, I reached out to Max first. I wanted to do the right thing. You know, respect. Yeah. Bro code. I like that. Yeah. Well, although I don't know what I would have done if he said it's not okay. You at least have to ask. I think in full transparency, I think me and big cat said,

we wish the best for you, but we didn't want you to win the masters. The first week after Joe left. That would've seemed mean for Max. But now there's some time there. You waited. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair.

I'm fine with that. I'm fine with how it all panned out. Yeah. Do you think that your regular caddy, like deep, deep, deep, deep, deep down inside, saw you win and he was like, fuck. Oh, for sure. I mean, yeah. I tried to tell him as many times as I possibly could. But yeah,

while he's, I mean, I assume he is rooting for me and watching. There's, there's got to be a small part of them. That's, that's like, oh shit. Yeah. Now what's gonna happen. And I thought about kind of stringing them along and just messing with them. But I'm like, this poor guy's hurt. I can't do that to him. That's not, that's not fair. Right. Yeah. And almost the more you say to him, it's good that you guys acknowledge it, that you joked around about it. But if you're like, no, listen, this guy means nothing to me. It's just a fling. He's still at home. Like he's carrying the bags a little bit higher than I do.

Did you tip him out? Did you tip out rev? What's that tipping for when? Yeah. For, did you tip him for even though he wasn't on the bag? I have not. No, I just, I paid Joe. Yeah. But maybe, maybe you got to tip out rev being like, Hey, I wouldn't have been in this spot just so that he doesn't get it. I mean, you, you got caddies. You got to deal with here. This is a very tricky situation for you. Yeah. That is something. Yeah. It's just a couple hundred grand. Yeah. You're good for that. You know this was this wasn't an issue probably until

you guys. I was like you know what you did. Here's here's what we could do. We can delete this part and you can tip us out. Okay. We can extort you. We can extort you right now. We can make sure this goes bye bye. Never goes on the podcast. You tip us out and we're good to go. I mean, I don't, I don't see what could go wrong. Then we just, every two months we're like, Hey JT, we still got that footage. We just have you on the hook. We didn't get that last one. Maybe. Yeah. That'd be incredible if like your, yeah, your career takes like a, like a weird turn. Everyone's like, what happened to JT? It's like,

well, he went on part of my take and they tried to extort it's been weighing on his mind. Is there a speath moment for you? Yeah. Yeah. When you were caddy for Jordan, would he tip you out for what do you mean? Did you, did were caddy for Jordan, would he tip you out? For what? He means you can't. Did you caddy for Michael Jordan? Oh, yeah. Sorry. I was I was thinking speed. I don't think I can for him. Oh, yeah. He he did when I yeah.

Back in the day, for sure. Good tipper. He helped pay for my first car. So that was that was he. That's pretty good. That's that's the Nick Saban way. That's exactly right. I didn't even have to get gifted one that's the Nick Saban way. Exactly. Yeah. I didn't even have to get gifted one when I went to college. I already had. All right. I got one last question for you JT. Row back question. R H O B C K dot com promo code take

20 percent off your first purchase. Q Zips Polos hoodies joggers shorts great golf stuff. Row back dot com promo code take. You have nine professional course records at different courses. Which one is your favorite? That's pretty sick by the way. Just, just saying it out loud. Nine different courses. You have the course record. Do you have a specific one that is your favorite and can you name all nine? Uh, I mean I, after seeing it thereafter. I really didn't know until it

didn't know until it kind of started going out last week. started going out last week. started going out last week. What is last week? TBC sawgrass What is last week? TBC sawgrass What is last week? TBC sawgrass TBC Stadium course in Palm TBC Stadium course in Palm TBC Stadium course in Palm Springs. Kuala Lumpur.

Springs. Kuala Lumpur. Springs. Kuala Lumpur. Kapaluah Wingfoot Aaron Hills. Kapaluah Wingfoot Aaron Hills. Medina and, uh, why lie. Yep. Got it. So which one's your favorite? Uh, I mean the, the 63 in the U S open was pretty cool. Wrong answer. That's a good one. The next one 59 is really fucking cool. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Well, fortunately for me, I had nine pretty cool ones. So I could choose, you know, some some different ones. Yeah, good list. Yeah. How many holes in one do you have? 25. That's seriously. Yeah. Is that normal for professional golfer to have 25? Probably not. I'm not sure. I feel like you're either here like it's like

30 or like there's somewhere it's like I have to. Yeah, right. Yeah. I'd say that's a good way to describe it. Do you even get excited when you hit a hole in one? Like 25. Yeah. 25. That would be an old hat for me. I'd be like, I guess I got another hole in one again. I got to buy everybody drinks. Yeah. Let me have one of those 25. That's an insane number. How many, how many while playing like professionally? Um, it's like four or five, four or five. Okay. So a lot of those are like, or when you're playing privately beforehand Beforehand, yeah. Well, not in, yeah, not in professional tournaments. Yeah. Do you have a favorite hole in one?

Sunday of the Masters, the year Tiger won, I made one. That's pretty sick. That is pretty cool. That's actually what I think most people remember about that Sunday. Yeah, definitely. That's actually the first, it's always like, wow, Tiger, you won the Masters. Like, is that just made the hole in one, right? Yeah. When people are like, Hey, yeah, Tiger, you won the Masters. Like, well, he wanted

a bunch of times. Are you talking about the time you want it when JT got that hole in one? That's how we got to. There we go. That's going to cost more money for us to get that narrative going. We'll give you our wire information after this. JT though, thank you so much, man. We appreciate having you on. Best of luck the rest of the year. Hopefully see you in the Ryder Cup. We got to win the Ryder Cup. It's a must win. It's a must win. Absolutely. Okay. All right. I feel good. Absolutely. Thank you guys. And please don't try to extort me for too much.

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Driving into work Sunday And I saw you know I saw like I think I thought Billy Strink setlist from the night before I was like I'll go listen to it There's an app where you can listen to the the shows my before I open it up. I see the date of the show April 19th and It hit me that I didn't I realized I forgot his birthday. When's his birthday April 19 Oh, I saw April 20th Like I was gonna pull it up the show and it was like Billy strings April 19th and I was like yesterday I was a blind guy and you didn't even root for Duke this year either

Yeah, that's on so You sent him a text I called you called and what was his reaction? He was he just he's laughed I honestly isn't it's happened before too, which is bad, but it was just, it was tough. He was giving me, you know, giving me shit for it. Now- Rightfully so, but it was, I felt really bad, I felt really bad. Not to make excuses, Hank. It's tough.

Not to make excuses, but I think that in this situation, you should maybe not think about like hey What did I do wrong and maybe blame the other people in your life because you have siblings? Yeah, how do they not give you a heads up? You need the heads like I've been close to missing it before but I've always gotten the heads up. I know I know That's where I kind of did that double check was like did I miss you know? Cuz we have a family group text and stuff. I was like did other people say anything in that? Oh, that's actually even dirtier. So they were doing the side text. I don't, yeah, I didn't even, I honestly haven't even reached out to find out.

Cause my family group text would just be like everyone else and then I'll just, I'll be like the sixth birthday, happy birthday. Still no excuse, but yeah, there wasn't any, any assistance there. Oh no. So what are you going to do to make it up to him? He loves Roeback. I got a, I got a fantastic, well, no spoilers, but might have a fantastic row back care package But it doesn't you can't really?

It's tough to make up. I'd so be better Did you but did you buy the row back or you just get just looked at it? You have in the checkout just getting free road, but row back sent to him Well, I hit I hit row back great great partners. That's do love row back. They do my dad loves row back I'm wearing your arms row back and I hit them up I was like is there a code I should use other than promo code take? And they were like, we'll help you out, let us know what you want. So.

That was a good move on your part. Hey, I'm at the checkout. I'm wondering if I should use the promo code or if there is a special promo code. I mean, we love Roeback. They're great partners. And my dad, it's like maybe, you know, my niece and nephew and then Roeback. Yeah. That's the good news is like right now he's like he's fully

into grandfather life probably. Yeah. Oh, he loves being grandfather. Yeah. The the son that he has without a child. He's like, Yeah, of course. Of course he didn't wish me Happy Birthday. Yeah. Do you think he's do you think you're in his will? Yeah, I think so. I'm just asking because like that's definitely something like if I get older as I get older in life

Like I will definitely be one of those people who will be like little tally sheet Even split and I that could it could be going down by the day. Yeah, you're in his won't now Brutal really bad really that's one of those things where it's just you every day. You're like you when you know You can't like make it up. Yeah, you have to wait 365 days It's just like you got set yourself a calendar right? I did because it will be on a Sunday Man, I think you have to take on the responsibility next year to of like letting all your siblings know Hey, just a reminder tomorrow's dad's birthday. Mm-hmm Yeah, I got a good idea to make it up to him. What maybe Masters next year right around his birthday. Oh

I'm maybe Taco Bell next year. Yeah Yeah, mm-hmm, you're in the dog house. Yeah. Yeah that is the worst missing a birthday cuz you're just like well I got I got nothing here. Yeah, the only explanation is like sorry wasn't really thinking about you. I Missed one's really just I just don't look like the calendar when it's a Saturday. Like I just I Wasn't like what day is it today? What's the but I should have been aware of it earlier in the week It's probably where I went wrong But I just you know looked and I wouldn't have even seen it Sunday Like I don't know. I don't I don't you't you're interested not even like because I missed a birthday last week, but it was a cousin like that's not yeah

That's not mandatory. No, like I feel like cousins are like, you know, you either get it or you don't see it on Yeah, right. It's like alright, we're good, but it's immediate family is you got to get the birthday. You got to get it, right? Yeah, I did do that one year. think on my mom's birthday I called and my mom picked up and I was like hey his dad there and I was like and then he picked it and then he got on the floor he's like it's your mom's birthday I was like yeah no I was joking I put mom back on so it happens yeah man sorry I'm sorry brutal my fireest of the week is I played in my first softball game last night. Nice. Oh good. And we lost, unfortunately. Ah shit. Decent showing. Decent showing from the guys. We got one bad ending and that'll take it out of you. What position? I played right field and it kind of sucked because there's no lights out. Yeah. No, it's very hard to see on that field.

You don't really see anything. Didn't make an error though, so I'm pumped about that. But then the last inning of the game, I was batting lead off in that inning, get a little base knock to first base, no big deal. And then I tried to leg it out from first base to third on a single from the next guy up. You got to run on a third? No, I'm too fast for that. But as I'm running the third base, I pull a hamstring. Unlike my second my second to last step muddy field. It was a bad, bad field. And like, you know, the feeling, have you ever pulled a ham? Yes. Yes. You immediately, you know exactly what it is. Yeah. And so, but since I was only like two steps away from third base at the time, I get to third, I'm like, well, I just pulled my hamstring. Uh,

but I guess I have to stay on base and try to run home. The very next ball that was hit was like a short, short fly ball to like the deep short stuff. Yes, you couldn't run. And I tried to tag and I took one step and I was just like, Nope, it's not happening. So this struck reminder, I'm 40. Yeah. So are you out for a while?

I don't know. We'll see. I iced it down last night. That's brutal. But yeah, it's brutal. First, first game back. That field was a dangerous field last night. It was injury concerns. Maybe, maybe you guys were right. Not having me on the team. It's like this guy is a, he could, if he put it all together and stayed healthy, he'd be a force. Best that never was. Best that never was. But we'll see a lot of you go and get

in treatment on myself. But, uh, the, the squad was awesome last night. Your hockey tough. You're, you'll be good. I'll be fine lower body injury Yeah, I'm so short. My entire body is lower body injury, but I my squad is fun like the guys Kadek had an all-time performance last night told me about this. Yeah, so He was a little bit late getting to the game because he was at the Cubs game last night for listeners This is Kadek Mike Kadek was a he played center at Indiana. Yes center for Indiana He's a big boy big boy And he took a pic like maybe an hour before their game because we played two hours before you so we went on the same

We left before you got there But I saw I got back in my car an hour before the game Kadek posted a picture from Wrigley with two beers in his hands and a hot dog. Yeah, I was like that's interesting Listen if you're his age and you just graduate from college, that's what you live for, is those nights when you go to a baseball game, get a little drunk, then go to a softball game. So he tries to make it all the way over from Wrigley before the game. Halfway there, he realizes, I have to shit.

And he runs into a hotel on the way to take a shit, realizes that he shit his pants a little bit. So he had shit pants, and he also tore, like Ezekiel Elliott style toward the bottom off his shirt Let the belly hang out a little bit and just decks the first runner of the game who's trying to score It was like runs into him and knocks him the fuck out So that was fun getting to play with those guys That's a football player playing song.. That sounds exactly like an offensive lineman drunk playing softball. Yeah. Yeah. And then at the end of the, at the end of the night,

we played the night game, which started at nine 30. And so when I was leaving my house at like eight 45, I was thinking about going to sleep. Oh yeah. Yeah. I, I used to play the league where the late game was 10 30 and it was just like, it was the worst feeling ever at 10 p.m. Being like time to go play softball Exactly. Yeah, like I would much rather be getting ready for bed, right then leaving my house to go to a softball game But it was fun and then I leave afterwards and all the other guys are like, yeah We're going out to a bar if you want to come along I'm like I can't go out to a bar and drink alcohol. It's a Wednesday night and you have a hamstring injury I have a hamstring injury. I got to get home and ice it down. So

yeah, I'm on I'm on like the three day DL. Okay, I think that's not bad. Yeah, we'll see how I stand after this weekend. Yeah, yeah, that feels you can rest it up this weekend. Maybe I'm gonna be doing a lot of walking on Friday. I'm going to Montreal. You're gonna do them with a purple leg. I'm gonna be with oldie. Oldie is going to be taking me around Montreal. I'm sure he'll he'll want to just chill out and sit still in one place. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I don't know if we mentioned I think I mentioned on the act but oldie we've hired oldie at Barstool Sports. He's not gonna

be moving here from Canada, but he'll be here. I know we'll have him for some hockey streams. I think we talked about that like we could go Oh, we did I did say it on the show. I don't think I said on during the Whitney interview Oh, yeah, yeah, that was right before we officially did hire him this week We had not hired him yet, but we have officially hired him. That was before we had officially I'm putting randon. I'm so excited to go through Montreal with with oldie I'm not sure I've heard is a very fun city and then having oldie showed me around I don't know if he speaks French

I think we're gonna try but he put out a video this morning where he's like get into a cold tub He's got the side pouch. Oh, yeah He is oldie. He's like doing a drug hanging out with oldies like being on drugs. Yeah, I'm pumped Yeah, all right my fire fest. I get a couple one was we do our Pittsburgh radio hit Every other week p.m. Teen I alternate great guys Bill and Randy this morning I was very tired and I joined on the radio and they played Sound from two weeks ago when I was on and I didn't realize that it was from two weeks ago And I was just responding to questions and

Then I heard my own voice and so I was just talking to myself in the car And I was like this is really embarrassing so you heard the interview where it was the two of them and then you Yeah, and then before I could answer I started answering again Yeah, a conversation. I had already had right were you getting into an argument with yourself I was just I I do I assume take it was pretty similar. That's good They're like do I gente and then we could go you're like no, you're like, yeah. No, it was uh, It was something about the Pirates like screwing up. They were selling like the bricks. Oh, yeah Yeah, and I was like, oh, that's a Cubs move

And then I so I said that two weeks ago and then as I was driving on the call I started saying oh that's a Cubs move and then it was like an echo and it was my voice saying oh that's a Cubs move. Jesus Christ dude. There are times when I get into the car and I'm leaving work I think it's it's on Wednesday that's when you do your ESPN hit in Chicago. Yeah on Wednesday sometimes we'll be wrapping up macrodosing and then I'll get into the car at like three or three whenever you do the hit and I'll hop in and then the first thing I hear is me is big cat being interviewed on the radio Yeah, and I feel like I'm still at work. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird feeling

And then my other firefests is I don't know if there's a fire first you guys can tell me I Think you know, we do a really good job with our interviews here. We we make guests feel comfortable really good job with our interviews here. We, we make guests feel comfortable. Sometimes maybe we feel too comfortable with the guests. I didn't even think about it until Wednesday show went live. And then I got a bunch of tweets and they're like, Hey dude, you called an NFL head coach, a pussy. And I was like, Oh, Oh yeah, I guess I did. Well, that was weird. Well, I don't think I've ever done that. Did you call him a pussy? I did

Stop being a pussy when we were talking about the tush push I'm talking about that before who is a very good guy and we appreciate him coming on But that was like one of those ones where I probably shouldn't have done that Well, I think the Packers thing helps out a little bit. Yeah, but still Bears pack. Yeah, I saw the clip I know I didn't think that you called him a pussy Were we talking about the Packers be in general being a pussy? No, we were saying the tush push, right? But I think he was like the Packers are pussies. No, he was like, I don't want to

Give my real opinion. I said something like oh, you don't be a pussy Either way, I gotta clean that up. I did notice that when the word pussy eggs in your mouth. He like blinked Yeah, he's like, I don't think he was, I don't think I, and I, I texted him and we've met him a couple of times. He's a great guy. I don't know if we're at pussy level yet. Yeah. If you're a head coach, but think about it, if you're a head coach in the NFL, it's probably been years since someone's called you a pussy. True. True. Yeah. Actually, you might think about it might like, what if this is the undermining of the entire package organization? Right? Like I called him a pussy and was like, you

can talk like that. Yeah. And it's just chaos. Or what if it just adds more fuel to the rivalry? Yeah. Ben Johnson pays basically called him a pussy. Yeah. And then you called him a pussy. Either way, I'm gonna say hand up on that one. I probably should just be a little, a little more aware of that You know Would you say that to Dan Campbell? Absolutely not because Dan Campbell is not a pussy. There you go. Yeah, it's true. You just called Matt LaFleur pussy again again Yeah, uh, no, I don't think he's a pussy. He might have had pussy behavior when he didn't answer the tush push question. Well

reading between the lines on his answer. I feel like maybe The people in the front office. Yes Are doing it without consulting Matt Lafleur about it and he's probably like I wish the Packers weren't the face of asking right Play to be banned. Okay, so that's that's a good conclusion for pussy gate So, you know what strip map before of the pussy title erroneous okay disavow of myself max you get a firefest I had a pretty clean week I was pretty good yeah no I did I had a bad week getting the stomach bug is by far like the worst thing that can possibly happen to a human I think cancer I feel like stomach bugs gotta be up there. Just kidding, just kidding, just kidding.

No, you feel like you're dying though, it's terrible. My ribs hurt from puking so hard. So like every time I laugh or cough right now, I'm still getting that feeling in my side. And you laugh and cough a lot, even when you're healthy. I laugh a lot. I don't necessarily cough a lot, but I do cough a lot even when you're healthy. I laugh a lot. Yeah, I don't I don't necessarily cough a lot But I do laugh a lot

So yeah, it was a tough week. I pooped my pants at one point Doesn't count if it's sick. Yeah doesn't count does not count. Yeah. No, it was bad I was in bed too. So that was tough. Oh, did you ever have the moment where you you were pooping and puking at the same time? No, I didn't have that. That's the worst. Yeah going number three. Yeah No, I didn't I but I did have the plastic bags next to the toilet thing in case in case that situation happened You think that's a hangover thing Hank? It can be yeah, I've never done that well. That's a great. That's unbelievable. I think I've done it once or twice and it's I've definitely had a hangover Great that yeah, unbelievable. I have done it once or twice and it's

I think it's crazy cuz like you know when you're about to puke and you just simply don't start pooping then no this yeah This is a one. No, it's the other way. It's happened twice and it's like it's And then I have to puke. Yeah, that's happened hungover. Yeah We're like, holy shit. I think I have to puke. What do you what's your move? Do you cuz you got I've had a flush really quick and then just yeah, it terrible. It's been through the terrible conversation, and I just lean over the tub. Yeah No, that was like when I happen to be one time and I still remember it when I lived in Massachusetts It was yeah one time when I was a kid. I was peeing and I had a stomach bug and I like sneezed or something and as I was Shit came out of my ass

You Yeah, come on I open this can of words, I don't know I said how much weight did you lose I don't know I don't I don't necessarily believe in scales. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have that I don't have any before that under something. We already scales. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have any, I don't have any before that under something we already knew. Yep. Uh, I feel skinnier. Yeah. There is, that is the benefit of like getting a stomach bug as you feel so skinny. But then what happens is you get your appetite back after like you do the, you do the test meal and then you're like, all right, I'm good. And then you do the real meal and you just get so fatty. I still still I'm still not at the real meal yet yeah I'm still

getting I saw you hitting some soup today yeah it's a good yeah yeah I had a I had a noodle I noodle soup okay not even yet from like a Jewish deli here is there a is I'm not gonna say what kind of deli it was it was a Jewish deli it was Manny's yeah great is there like a meal that you had right before you Is I'm not gonna say what kind of deli it was It was a Jewish deli whose manny's uh yeah Great is there like a meal that you had right before you got sick that now you associate with being so because that happened to Me one time when I was younger, and I ate honey mustard pretzels right before I got sick And then I didn't fucking touch a honey mustard pretzel for probably 20 years Yeah, that uh that ruined me squared for me the really good pizza place

Oh that Brooklyn. Yeah. Yeah, it just killed me for it for like I couldn't I loved that place And I got sick right after not because of them, but it just ended it. Yeah, it's stuffed peppers right before it I don't think I'm having stuffed peppers anytime soon It's like everyone's got that one liquor that they like mines gin I drank too much gin when I was like 16 years old puked everywhere and I have not I don't drink gin. Mm-hmm Mine was rumple mints, but then you get back on the horse. Yeah, I was that way with Chipotle I got sick after each pull a one time and it took me like Years to start eating again now. No, it's fine. Blake's got diarrhea too. Oh, no bonus fire fest

Have you considered wearing a cone? No, I should wear a cone. Wait I don't yep. I should just wear it. You should wear a cone. Not an ice cream cone. Yeah regular cone You should wear a cone. Yeah Well, I want some ice cream right now. Yeah, that sounds good. Not me. It's getting warm out It's time for ice cream cones gonna get back on my shit We're gonna get it. We're gonna get a soft serve machine in this office and a gravitron and a gravitron Okay, good show boys Numbers three I think I know I think I was yeah 17 77

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