Pardon My Take - NFL Draft With Daniel Jeremiah, Super League With Troopz And Jake Paul's Fyre Fest Fight

Episode Date: April 19, 2021

The Super League has the soccer world going crazy and we're here to do a little bit of trolling (3:55 - 16:17). Jake Paul vs Ben Askren was a debacle but also weirdly entertaining (16:17 - 25:50). Respecting Steph Curry more (25:50 - 31:05). Who's back of the week including Chrissy Teigen on twitter (31:05 - 47:25). Daniel Jeremiah joins the show to break down the upcoming NFL Draft, guys rising and falling, quarterbacks ranked and more (47:25 - 86:48). Troopz joins the show to break down why the Super League is such a terrible thing for soccer and how much this has fucked fans up (86:48 - 115:36). We finish with an attempt to call Marlins Man.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Billy, where are you going? We're recording. We're live. We're live. Yeah, we're live.

We're live. We're live. We're live. Breathe into the mic, Billy. Billy, you showed up hammered. I'm not hammered. I'm not. Breathe.

Just breathe while you eat. Don't eat into the mic, just breathe. What would a breathalyzer register on you right now, Billy? This is a cold opening, by the way. Dude, I'm not drunk. No, just answer the question. Okay, I know. Yeah, yeah.

No, this is a cold opening. We have a great show for everyone. Daniel Jeremiah. We've got troops. We've got Super League. We're going to talk maybe some baseball, some NBA, some Great Monday stuff. But Billy... What are you doing right now, Billy?

He got his burrito. You're not going to get to talk for most of the show because you are drunk, but just show everyone how you breathe while you eat. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it right now. Dude, I think your septum is fucked up.

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We love you. Send those blue mountains to us. We will re-tweet them all the time. Today is Monday, April 19th and it is Super League time. Tired. Super team debates. Wired. Super League debates.

Hey PFC, did you hear about this one? Classic that they made a Super League after LeBron started to get into ownership in Liverpool. That's pretty good. Just the fact though that Americans basically ruined European soccer. You guys are just bearing me considering we don't really talk soccer on the show. Oh yeah, so the Super League was started. No, no, no, wait, wait. There's a brand new league.

Usually talking soccer is like, okay, let's talk soccer. Hold on. Everyone out there knows about the Super League. Hank, it's the biggest news in the entire world right now. The Europeans started a brand new league that's exactly like UEFA Champions League except better and Super. What more do you need than it's called the Super League? You should be in on the name alone.

Who's making it? Okay, all right. I'll give you the quick, so all right, let's also just clear something up. Players, we are going to have some fun with this. Hank's very mad about this. We are going to have fun. No, I'm just genuinely confused. Soccer fan.

I'm genuinely confused. All right, so we're going to have some fun with the Super League. Now, all right, let's put on our real hats for a second. The Super League is a terrible idea. Here's exactly what's going to happen. The richest teams in, as of right now, I think it's Italy, Spain, and England. So France, the PSG is not joined and neither has the best teams in Germany. But right now, it is 12 different teams, the richest teams in the world, are going

to create a league where they're basically doing away with the Champions League. The Champions League is a great tournament where it's qualifiers, where for England it's the top four go. It's different for each country, but it's a big tournament in all of Europe for the best team. Now, these teams are basically like, why would we share money with everyone when we can make a Super League, and we get to keep all the money, and it's all the rich teams, and it will therefore basically destroy every club soccer team below them in all of these countries.

It's terrible for the game of soccer. It's going to ruin the game of soccer. But in terms of a troll factor, it was made for this show specifically to talk about how American innovation has finally come to soccer, and now we have a Super League hell yet. If you wanted to be against the formation of a Super League, then you should have called your league the Super League to begin with. You left yourself wide open to getting cut by that.

The Super Bowl is called the Super Bowl. There's no game that can be adopted by the NFL that could come in except the Pro Bowl, which is amazing. Pro Bowl, but that's not, that's business. It's business. Super Bowl is everything. It's everything, so you should have named your league the Super League to prevent that ahead of time.

Now, I think it's very funny that you can trace this back to Americans ruining European soccer because it's like the glazers that really wanted to push on this, and I think John Henry, right? Yeah, probably. So, yes, this is a great way for Americans to just remind everybody that if you give us enough money and put us in any global situation, we will fuck up your personal lives. Yeah, we'll make it America, which is just super. I do think that the governments of these countries might just be doing it to create more confusion

around the tax laws so that they can create more revenue, because you know that every single like, super millionaire soccer player in the Super League, playing all these games in different countries, they're not going to be paying the right taxes, and there's nothing more than governments love in Europe than just like boning the highest profile superstars with like 20 million dollar tax bills. Hank, question. You mentioned the Champions League and say anything about the Premier League. So the Premier League is what would get ruined in the same thing in Spain and Italy, Serie

A and La Liga. So essentially it's, soccer is actually kind of fucking sweet how it's set up right now where the little guys can quote unquote compete. You get a Leichester City situation, right? But you have a league where it's 20 teams and then there's relegation. Essentially this is all happening because the money from the Champions League isn't locked in. You have to qualify every year.

If you are, for instance, Arsenal, who will have troops on the show, they are not going to qualify. Well, unless they, now this is getting confusing because they could still win the Europa League. But they're like in the middle of the table this year, right? So they might not qualify for the Champions League. They might not qualify to get all that extra money being in the Champions League. So they're essentially saying, let's cut out the middle man. Let's not deal with qualifications.

Let's just make the Super League and we will all just be super there and get all the fucking money. It doesn't really, it kind of removes the whole threat of relegation. Because when you have the richest teams already locked into the Super League, they're not going anywhere because they're the biggest brands. They generate the most money. So it doesn't matter how good the teams are. For instance, West Ham is better than Arsenal this year.

But still, if you're the top of the EPL table, you're not going to get into the Super League because those spots are already set in stone amongst the highest profile teams, which will then generate more money and then get better and better and better as, in theory, the rest of the team will get worse and worse and worse. Generally speaking, I'm in favor of any European conglomeration that doesn't involve the Germans. I feel like it's very funny that they left the Bundesliga out of there. So the theory is there's teams that are going to the best teams in Germany and France. All right.

So there's a couple of things actually floating around. One is that this is all just a bargaining chip to change how teams get into the Champions League so that those rich teams can lock in the profit. And it also is a short-sighted thing where, hey, they lost money during coronavirus and the pandemic. So let's just make all this money back. I think I read that it was like $400 million instantly to every team for being in the Super League.

Yep. That's how fucking super it is. It's very super. Again, not trying to tell people what to think, but $400 million just for being in the Super League. That's fucking super. I don't think it will happen. I don't think it's going to happen, but it does suck if it does happen.

I thought it was happening. Well, they've announced it. It wasn't even announced. So now there's basically, this is how fucked soccer is, UEFA and FIFA can counteract with this. I was reading something that FIFA could essentially say if you play in the Super League, you can't play in the World Cup. So guys who want to play for their country in the World Cup wouldn't play in the Super

League. I don't see that actually happening. I think it's going to be an all time politicking that we don't fully understand that we can just sit on the sideline and troll about. That's just FIFA trying to keep Christian Pusilich off the national team and prevent America from winning a fucking World Cup. Is Christian Pusilich the face of the Super League? Well, Chelsea is one of the teams.

Many people are asking, but I think that, so hey, to kind of equalize it to American football, it would be like, it isn't a perfect correlation. But if the Dallas Cowboys got into the playoffs every year, just because they're the Dallas Cowboys and they're the biggest brand in the NFL, regardless of how good they are, that's kind of what this is like. I think the best correlation would be baseball because there's no real salary cap. So it would basically be saying the top six teams in baseball, let's just say the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, the Cubs, in terms of just salary, right?

Like I'm not talking about how good they are. The Red Sox and I don't know, whoever else is like top in the league in salary, basically say we're starting our own league and they're Houston and they're just completely separate from everyone else and they start their own league where they all make a shitload of money and they get their product on TV all the time and then everyone else sucks. What they don't realize is like if you made that league, someone's got to be the bottom of the league. So that's the funniest part about the Super League is like Arsenal is going to join and

Arsenal is going to be the worst team in the league. So they're going to get their shit kicked out of them, but they'll be in the Super League. So like with Tottenham, they let Tottenham in despite the fact that Tottenham hasn't won an EPL title since like 1961. So it's like, it would be like if they made a Super League of football and they're like, we're going to include the Jets because they've got a big market. Yeah, or the Cowboys who haven't won in forever, but they have the most money.

Either way, we probably got a lot of this wrong. It's just. Oh, most of it. Also, I didn't want to correct you in time, but you mispronounced it. Leachester City, Leachester City. Sorry. So Leachester City. So Super League will talk to troops about it, who will give us a little more insight into how terrible of an idea it is.

Again, when will we know whether or not this is happening? I think it's 2023 was the proposed start. A lot can happen in two years. Yeah, a lot can happen. Here's here's the thing, though. I with the way it was the the thing was announced and it was like games will resume when it when we can. I thought it was going to be like a month.

I the Super League is a very terrible idea in terms of like the sport of soccer and like all these other teams are going to get fucked with it. But again, it is a gold mine for trolls like us, because this is you. It's essentially just Americans saying we know how to make sports better and taking a sport that's been around forever and all the traditions and all the funny, quirky things with like, you know, the different levels in England soccer and being like, now fuck all that, let's just make it like the NFL and we'll all get to keep our TV money and it will be sick because it's the Super League.

So in that respect, we're in on the Super League. It's also just a very cool name. Hey, what Super League team should we choose to be our team? I'm I'm saying like you can have now an EPL team and the Super League team wrong. We're all I'm saying the league right because we're all going to win. We're Rob Lowe's that there is no teams. You just root for the Super League. The relegated team that you own will now be back in the Premier League.

They kicked out so many of the good teams. Yeah, I want to say it right now. I was asked to join the Super League as owner of Swansea. I said, no, man of the people. Yeah, that there it is. Quote that, put that out there. They should know actually don't because then there's like a section of Swansea fans that think I actually have any say.

Just say it was your idea. Yeah, the entire Super League was your idea as as owner of Swansea. I think I think I quote card. So here's the thing where it gets like a little bit serious because obviously you're right, it's a very it's a bad idea, bad. And it's going to fuck over all of European soccer. It's going to make this sport completely different. But it'd be very funny if they did change the rules to make it more like

American football, if goals were with more points, if you could, you could have one guy who was in charge, like he could actually pick up the ball who wasn't the goal, the goalkeeper. You got two points if you went in a way game. Two points if you went in. Yeah, I just hoping that they make VAR more part of the game in the Super League because as soccer fans, that's what we like the most. Oh, I can't wait for the the takes of like this is this is global.

This is globalism. I've reviewed the documents. George Soros is busting in fans to the games. It's going to be fucking sick, dude. Super League. Just you know what they should do? I like they should have one floating spot in the Super League that's reserved for the FIFA player of the year.

So like even if Messi wasn't on one of these teams, yes, then his team would automatically get in every year. Yes, I just it's just so funny to be like, this is a really stupid idea. No one should be in on the Super League. It's going to ruin soccer. But then having the others like side of my brain be like, but it's it's a super also games should be played at like 7 p.m. American time and more commercials, more commercials, way more commercial breaks during the breaks every 15 minutes

of commercial. You should have a dancing robot that wears soccer equipment that just appears on the field out of nowhere. Imagine if they did a commercial after the kickoff. Yeah. Pause it. Yeah, it's like the little pass. Pause commercial. I'm in for it.

Super League is a blank canvas. We Americans can make it whatever we want. It's hardly it is our sport. Yeah, as everyone knows, it's truly the Americans. All right. What else we got going on in sports? I had there was the there was a big fight. Oh, yeah. Fight on Saturday night. Damn, was it bad?

What? What a great two hours of television that was, though. Well, you mean the concert? Yes, I tuned in only tuned in for two hours. I tuned in for two hours. So I didn't I actually didn't get to see Oscar de la Hoya being the in real life. I love cocaine bear. But dude, he was his face. I don't a lot of people are saying like Oscar de la Hoya looks like he's had a

lot of plastic surgery done. I think his face is just so swollen from the drugs that it has made his skin tighter. Right. His face looked like the mom like Stiffler's mom in American buy. So essentially what happened was it was a broadcast that everyone, you know, when someone leaves ESPN and they're like, hey, now I can really take off the guardrails here. Like we can say whatever we want. They were able to swear on this broadcast and also like talk about

weed and all this stuff. And then they just did it so much that it was horrendous to listen to. They were talking about Snoop Snoop Dogg smoked a blunt. Crazy. I know. And they couldn't stop talking about it for like three hours straight. Oscar de la Hoya got on there said fucking a million times, kept on saying baby, and it was just weird and terrible. And then I disagree that fight just like it took forever to get to.

I disagree that it was terrible with Snoop Dogg because Snoop Dogg, I could listen to him recite anything. He could read the phone book and it would sound amazing. Snoop Dogg is probably the coolest person in America. Just everything that comes out of his mouth happens to rhyme with the last thing that he said. And then he's just he's like drinking Hennessy or whatever. No, no, no, no, no, no, it wasn't Snoop Dogg. I almost felt like the rest of the panel was beneath Snoop Dogg.

Correct. No, you could put Snoop Dogg on the Red Zone channel and I would watch it. You could put Snoop Dogg doing anything and I would watch it. No, the rest of the guys, they had a major case of I'm sitting next to Snoop Dogg. I hope Snoop Dogg thinks that I'm cool. No, it wasn't Snoop Dogg. It was after Snoop Dogg was around and smoking. Ray Flores kept on being like, you guys still hide from that Snoop Dogg blunt and kept on mentioning it.

And like, it was uncomfortable. It was very clear that some people on the announcing staff were just there to catch a paycheck and we're halfway through. We're like, what is my like Mario Lopez? I think it halfway through is like, I why did I do this? I may see Slater. Mario Lopez is the king of guys that just shows up doing stuff on TV. Yeah, I've seen Mario Lopez. He does like America's funniest videos.

I've seen him on like a bunch of like infotainment commercials. I saw him one time I checked into a hotel and you turn on the TV and he was like, Hi, I'm Mario Lopez here for Marriott. Let me tell you about the features of your room that do just the entire night was just a series of people collecting checks. Yes, you just got to see people get a little bit. You got to see rich people get a little bit richer in real time over the course of the night, including Ben Askren, who people say was taking a dive.

And we have thank God we have an expert here on on our show who may or may not be drunk. But Billy, did you think that Ben Askren took a dive? Honestly, when I saw him and he was so fat, he had the love handles for the way in. I was like, that guy's not in fighting shape. Yeah, like he's not there to fight. But he got a lot of money, got a lot of money. He got less money than fucking Jose did. And yeah, wow. And Jake Paul, the Paul Brothers can't be stopped.

Like this is they got a bunch of people to it was essentially firefest of a boxing match, right? Like we all tuned in and we saw 30 seconds and then a million concerts that no one really wanted to see. And the fight didn't happen to one of them. I'm a believer now in the fight was a good. Again, you you watch for like the last hour and a half. The first four or five hours was just minus and not like it was terrible.

I could tell you, Big Cat, like that's kind of on you for choosing to watch the like six undercards of a Jake Paul fight. Well, no, I had I had it on. And it was like I wasn't even I didn't even have it on the sound for a while. It was just kept on going. Yeah. It was like, there are no fights. All right. Oh, there's a fight for two seconds. Oh, then there's just like an hour and a half of no fight.

I had no interest until like the very end. So I wasn't like rushing to my TV to see those to see the fights that were going on at like 9 p.m. But Billy, in your estimation, did he or did he not take a dive? I mean, he gets to the point. I don't think he I think he thought the whole thing was a sham the second he walked into the ring like even before when he was training. So Ben Askren just went in there and was like, this is a joke.

I'm going to treat it like a joke and just took his paycheck. He got hit pretty hard, though. Yeah. But like there's I've seen Ben Askren get his face pounded in on the mat in the UFC. Like, right? He just played it off. He still got hit really hard, though. Like you can watch that punch and the punch was a solid. Many people were saying it was a harder shot than Jose took.

Way hard. That honestly, either way, the Paul brothers are going to just for some reason, they're just going to end up becoming like I. So I'm not a Paul brothers fan, but I respect the fact that they have become like somehow real boxers and they're just going to. No, no, no, they're doing pay-per-view for fucking dude. If I got to say, he's five, seven. What Jake Paul's five, seven. If I got into a ring with him, I'd literally kill him.

I think he would. I think he would actually. You're a real box. No, I'm not. I'm far from a real boxer. But I do like the guys I train with in the gym. And they say that they would beat the shit out of Jake Paul. Like we were. I think I've been asking was going to be. These are 17 year old gold glove boxers. And they're like, this guy's a joke.

Everyone's going to do it. OK, yeah, but none of them want to actually fight. That's the difference. Really, really, hold on. I'm not saying he's a real boxer in the fact that he's going to be challenging for the heavy or whatever middleweight title of the world. I'm saying that they have found a way to get paid real significant dollars as professional boxers. Whether you want to say that that's bullshit or not, I don't care.

They have literally invented like an audience for them boxing random people and you at least have to tip your hat to it. It's they've recreated WWE in a way. They made their own super is what they did. Super league wrestling. They figure out a way to to monetize beating the shit out of people that can't beat them up. And so I mean, credit to them for being able to do it.

Right. He's not he's not a bad boxer. You can't watch him fight and be like, that guy sucks. He's a good boxer. And I I really do hope that he fights. You know, I think that there's a good chance because I was reviewing your slideshow presentation really last night. And I think you make a lot of outstanding points about how you would get under his skin really badly.

And I think that you could probably go to him into a fight. But I think in the general public size, fighting you might be a step back for him right now. Well, the thing is, like, I'm just bad enough of a boxer that he'd take the fight because he's like, oh, this guy looks big. But he's not that good of a boxer. So he like I might beat him. He's as big as you are.

What about the fact that he fought? He fought an NBA player. He fought an MMA champion. All of them are under five. You're but you have no cloud. That's I've. Oh, yeah, that also. Yeah, back to that point. It's just like no one is true.

No one wants to mention that part. I have no cloud, but I would love to fucking say. Do you see his mentions? It's a million people saying, fight me next. True. And where were you? Where were you last night in his mentions? You should have been there. No, I'm just saying, I know, I know, I know.

You got to you got to make the app to fight Paula. Yeah, look, it just left me wanting more, you know, more fighting with like funny commentary and like, you know, just better, better action. Interesting with maybe a way to bet on it on playbarstool.com. That was what do you mean? Oh, yeah, we have rough and rowdy Friday night. Oh, my God, a million concerts. It will just be wall to all action.

20 fights. Do you see Vito torpedoes fighting? Who's maybe the greatest? I don't even know how to describe. He would be the fuck out of Jake. He's like 400 pounds. He's like, he's like weaponized Frank the tank. Yeah, he just takes punches. He eats punches for a living.

So rough and rowdy Friday night by R&R.com and do it on the playbarstool app. Billy, final question. Was Jake Paul in war mode? No, he had a fucking robot. That was sick. That was amazing. The robot was the coolest part.

Like that's the other thing is as much as you want. I know the inclination ready for this, Jake. The inclination is to hate on these guys, but then they bring out like robots and stuff and it's sweet as fuck. How do you like that, Jake? I love it. There we go.

They automated their hype, man. Yeah, it was amazing. Bullshit. Or do you hate, you don't like the robot? Jake, would you take a job calling Paul fight? That'd be fun, yeah. Snoop Dogg was smoking a lot of weed. Yeah, would have Snoop Dogg heard that.

Another sport for the resume. Okay, but Snoop Dogg was smoking a lot of weed. Amongst everyone. It kind of reminded me of a triple S broadcast. Just a lot. You can say whatever you want. It was chaos. But what if Snoop Dogg...

Five-man booth is interesting, man. What if Snoop Dogg was next to you and he hands you a joint and he's like, here you go, cousin. Are you going to smoke it? No. Cousin? I already broke a big no-no taking a sip of pink Whitney

with Viz a few weeks ago. Here you go, cousin. No, no, because Snoop Dogg does the thing where he'll just drop a relative's title out of nowhere. And he just brings it up and it's always like, he'll be like, what's up, cousin? He'll be like, what's up, step brother? No, no, he'll...

Dude, he will say cousin all day. Yeah, but I would not take this... Stop Snoop Dogg over here. I would not take the hit, but I would take the broadcast. Okay, there we go. All right, what else we got? Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention from this weekend. I think that we're in the specific zone now

where we don't respect Steph Curry enough. I think we're back on... The Warriors were so hated, he gets injured. I think we're now in... Steph Curry is under... He's lost, though. Yeah, yeah, no, but he's been on an insane tear. I'm not even talking about on Saturday night.

I'm talking about his... I think what does he hit? Was it like 45 threes in the last week or something? No, maybe it's not that many. What's an insane amount? When I saw the stats of how he became the Warriors' all-time leading scorer, but then they had to compare him next to Will Chamberlain.

It was like Will did it in literally half the games that Steph Curry did. I do think that we're reaching the point where we're ready to build Steph Curry back up after hating him for a while for being on a super team through no fault of his own, really. Like, sorry that he was so good that people wanted to join the Warriors.

But now that they've had a couple years down, now it's like, oh, Steph Curry redemption tour, despite the fact that he's never really been bad at basketball. No, right. He hasn't had, like, down years. When he plays, he's always been a top three player in the entire league. And we're at the zone where it's like,

hey, maybe we should just remember the fact that we're watching literally the greatest shooter of all time play basketball. So we should just enjoy that and be like, holy shit, Steph Curry is awesome all the time. So he's in that camp now. 44 threes in five games. 44 threes in five games.

I also saw the stat that Steph Curry could go 0 for 500 in his next 503 point attempts. And then retire. And he would still be ahead of Ray Allen. He should do that. And then he could go 0 for 600 in his next 600. And he would still be in retire. And he'd still be ahead of Reggie Miller.

That's insane. That is nuts. It's fucking insane. He is that much better of a shooter than everyone else in the history of basketball. It's like, it's actually mind boggling that we don't respect him enough. So I'm going to write that down, Jake.

We got to respect Steph Curry more often. And just a date or just ran. No, I think it's more of a. In general. Yeah, it's like, God, it's just everywhere. OK. You know, like just. He's reminded of his presence frequently.

Right. Yeah. But I'm still going to blame for ruining basketball at the collegiate level. Sure. And the AAU level. Sure. That's fine.

So he's a net negative on the game. You can do whatever you want. But he's still great. Right. I'm just going to start appreciating him more in general as a ball is life guy. Big time shout out to Zion for just knowing exactly what he was doing when he was taking that press conference

today. And somebody asked him how he felt about playing in New York. And he put the smirk on his face immediately. And he was like, I know exactly what I'm about to do. He goes, thank you for asking me that question. Then went on for about like a minute and a half talking about how New York City is his favorite place in the world to play basketball.

And then threw it at the end, like besides New Orleans, obviously. And then went back to sucking the mech his dick. Yes. And being like, I love Madison Square Garden. It is the best place in the world. I think, I mean, he's got to become a Nick now, right? He just wants to play with RJ Barrett, too, his friend.

So there's the, you know, and we get the Knicks. The Knicks. It's also more the Pelicans front office is like a disaster. I think he's just trying to, you know, stir the pot. Yeah. Yeah. The Knicks Twitter, too, I'm enjoying it right now.

But that's a classic case of if the Knicks ever get really good, people will hate the Knicks so goddamn much. Because they're kind of the darling right now, because it's been so long. Yeah. But you forget how many people you follow and people in media are Knicks fans until the Knicks start getting good again. And you're like, oh, shit.

Right. They're harmless right now. So when they do something average, you're like, that's cute. And you get a little pat on the head. But yeah, if the Knicks ever become a juggernaut, no, I'm out. I'm not on the Knicks. And Tim's is an insane coach. He's just, I mean, he's coaching.

He's just fucking awesome. Their roster is not that good. You know what? He's that good of a coach. You know what the Knicks should do preemptively? If they do plan on getting really, really good to kind of get ahead of all the people that will be hating them, they should just sign Boban.

Because you can't hate a team that has Boban on it. True. That's a fact. Or Lou Dort. Like, yeah, there you go. You could be booing the Knicks. They could be going for like their fifth championship. If you put Boban in the game and he starts dunking without jumping,

everyone's going to love that. Yes. I love Lou Dort so much. He had such a Lou Dort night tonight where he went, he had 21 points in the first quarter, five for five from three, and then finished the half with 22 points. That's just, that's what he does. It's Dort.

He just, you know, just all of a sudden you'd be like, Lou Dort is on 80 point watch. And you'll tune in and he'll have like 23 points, 11 minutes into the game, and then it'll end up with 32. Lou Bup? Yeah, it's fun. Dude, the Dortcher chamber. Get in or get out.

Yeah, he's got, he's got 27 points right now, and there's a minute and a half left in the fourth. He had 21 in the first quarter. He's all right. Lou Dort is just, when he gets fire, there's nothing more fun to watch. It's also just fun to say Dort. Yeah, of course. It's a Dortcher chamber.

The Dortcher law. The Dortcher law? Yeah, the Dortcher law. He's taking it over. The, there's a, oh, there's a Dort Haag meme where he's like, he looks like a Warthog, the vehicle. It's fucking sick. Dort minor?

Yeah, it's, dude, there's so many Dorts. I love Lou Dort. And just, yeah, the LU is also the best. Dort license plates. Yeah. Lou Dort. Yes, exactly. All right, let's get to who's back.

And then we have Daniel Jeremiah coming up. Great draft talk with him. And kind of speed you up on the draft, which is coming up in a week and a half. And then we have troops on. Very emotional with troops. After talking to troops, I think we are probably going to disavow the Super League as trolls. We're going to have to change our tune.

We actually tape troops in the middle of before the start of the show and right now. So I, are we, we're out on the Super League. I still, I like the name. So confused. Time travel. I like the name Super League. I'm not going back on that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. We were in on the stand. We stand by the fact that it is a good name. Yeah. All right. We'll just listen to troops. It was awesome.

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and get involved with the cash app. Okay. Henry. My who's back to the week. Our queen, the mayor of Twitter, Chrissy Teigen. Yes. Returned. After like a six day.

Big drought. I think retirement. So it was 20, 23 days? March 24th, this was her one of the most emotional goodbyes I've ever seen. For over 10 years, you guys have been my world. I honestly owe you so much to this world we have created here. I truly consider so many of you my actual friends,

but it's time for me to say goodbye. This no longer serves me as positively as it serves me negatively. And I think that's the right time to call something. Yeah. And then on April 16th, so less than a month later, she said turns out it feels all caps terrible to silence yourself and also no longer enjoy belly chuckles randomly throughout the day and also lose like 2000 friends at once.

LOL. So she's back. Welcome back, Chrissy. I am a narcissist and I'm addicted to this hellhole of a website because I like other people to like me, which is okay, but it's not okay because you did a whole grandstand of your retirement, which was utterly ridiculous. And that part is just we should be able to laugh at that.

I got caught up in Chrissy Teigen mentions because I was tweeting about it when she came back. And I was like, I don't like the third or fourth tweet when you hit the trending and the Chrissy Teigen stands. Teigenites. The Teigenites. I don't know what you call them. I had one here.

I'll do a quick reading of it. Olivia said, yes, it's people like you who criticize people like Chrissy who are clearly jealous of her. If your life was full of love and happiness, you'd never think ugly thoughts. That ugliness lives inside you until you decide to let it go. Chrissy will be fine. I hope you will be too.

I'm glad that there are people out there that are defending Chrissy on this one. It's funny how like it did last for 23 days. And we knew that she was coming back. She's addicted to this life. What Chrissy should have done is she should have started a burner account. Like she should have just gone with at not Chrissy Teigen and then infiltrated all the trolls that always go at her

and accuse her of being a pedophile. And it actually would have been very funny if Chrissy Teigen had become like so deep into the world of a burner account, getting mad at Chrissy Teigen, that she actually started to hate online Chrissy Teigen from her burner account. And then she bought into the fact that when she was watching titlers and tiras,

she was engaged in sex trafficking. That would have been the ultimate internet story. She also could have just stopped using Twitter for a weekend. Just detoxed from Twitter? Just instead of saying a big announcement, hey, look at me, I'm off this website. I'm and if you, here's just a simple rule in life. If you announce that you are retiring from Twitter,

you're probably a fucking asshole who will be back on Twitter in due time. My Twitter was broken this weekend and I was kind of hoping it never came back. I couldn't see anything on Saturday or Friday. It is kind of well-cached when that happens. And you're like, wait, what if it just stayed like this? Would my life be better?

Yeah, the answer is probably yes. Oh yeah, Twitter was broken. Chrissy, it's so refreshing though that someone who's probably, she's probably close to a billionaire or- I don't think so. Half a million dollars. No chance. Someone who's super rich, a supermodel.

Take about the rice. Yeah, she's got a few grains. She's got a few grains. A billion is a lot. Still misses logging on to maybe the world's worst website and getting roasted every day. Superstars are not that different from you and I. So welcome back Chrissy.

She's like the KD of celebrities. Although not without, I guess not without the skill. How is she like KD? She's addicted to Twitter. Yes, right, yes. She's a loser, just like, remember I said this last week, how everyone online is a loser, whether you're on Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram,

everyone has their subsection, everyone looks at the other subsection. Jeremy Renner's website. Could you imagine tweeting all day as you angrily yell at someone on Reddit or Facebook? We're all losers. So once you admit that and accept it, you can just be a loser and live your life.

That was Chrissy's biggest thing. She thought she could go legit. She thought she could be not a loser anymore and be like, oh, I'm gonna leave you fucking Cretan's over on Twitter and I'm gonna go live my wonderful life. Uh-uh, we pulled you back in. You can't fucking leave.

We got you. We got our claws in you. You're a fucking loser like us. It is just amazing, though, that at the end of the day, you could have all the money in the world. You could have true love, like her and John Legend have,

and they'll never, ever break up, ever in the perfect couple. They're goals, they're goals. But at the end of the day, you still want to get a blue notification on your phone reminding you that a celebrity has retweeted you. Yeah, you want the likes and people to reply with the lulls and people like Team Chrissy and all, this is great.

There's also the diet version of doing what Chrissy did, which is making a big announcement that you have deleted the app from your phone. Right. That way, you don't have to actually delete your account. You can still have it on your desktop or on your iPad or on anything else. But if you just make a big grandstanding statement about,

I have deleted the Twitter app from my phone, you get to have that moment where you're like, look at me, I'm doing something powerful, but you still get to stay logged on and online. Right, exactly. So it's good to have the mayor of Twitter back. Welcome back, Chrissy. My who's back of the week is Cicadas.

Cicadas are back big time. I know, such a cock on Billy. This is the part of the podcast where Billy pretends like that was going to be his back. Brutex, Brutex. So the Cicadas are back, the 17-year Cicadas, if you don't remember the last time the Cicadas were around, they're about to change,

they're about to turn the entire fucking world on its head for about two months. Basically, there are going to be millions and millions of slow-moving, loud insects that just ruin everything in every East Coast city and in the Midwest. I don't know exactly where the location, how far West they go, but I do know that you're going to get

a lot of Cicada content coming up. You're going to get people that start doing, there'll be TikTokers that are like, here's how you cook Cicadas, because apparently Cicadas are delicious if you want to eat a flying Vuvuzela with wings, which is what they actually sound like. So they're going to ruin the outdoors,

they're going to ruin, there's probably going to be a Cicada delay in a baseball game at some point this season, but I'm very excited for the influx of Cicada content to hit the internet. For the first time really, since we've had this internet, we're going to get just a deluge of blogs about Cicadas. I just love that there's different Brutes.

Like Brutex is coming, but I saw like Brute 8 is still three years away. 2004 is the last time we had a Brute this big, it's going to be insane. Damn, it's going to pop off. Keep an eye on your pets out there too, because they're delicious. Dogs love eating them because they're slow

and they fly really close to the ground. And they all die. And so your dog's going to try to eat a lot of them. They'll block your dog up real bad. Your dog won't be able to shit if it eats too much Cicadas. The Cicadas are gross, they're so gross. Keep an eye on that, don't let Whitey be going to Munch Town with these Cicadas.

I know. Yeah, that's good. I, Cicadas are the worst, it really is a plague. I'm kind of excited. Well, yeah, we know you are. Because like think about it, like more animals to fuck. No, no, it's just like sometimes new shit happens, it's fun. Yeah.

You are young enough that you don't even remember Cicadas. Like I was five last time there was one. Yeah, you're going to be sick of the Cicadas in about two weeks. Yes. I will, but it'll be fine when it first shows up. Like a snow day. Yeah, like a snow day. All right, my who's back of the week is,

Billy is back and the Yankees are back. The Yankees suck. Billy, you were at the stadium on Saturday, how'd it go? I had to leave early. Oh, why's that? Were you asked to leave early though? Yes. Okay.

I was with a large group of people. So basically, so if you go to MLB stadium. We've never actually been to a game with friends, so explain it. Right, right. No, but if you go to an MLB stadium during COVID, they tape off some of the seats because of social distancing. So some of my friends basically uncut the tape because we all arrived as a group and we're sitting in the wrong seats and then they kicked us all out.

Okay, so you decided to break safety protocols? Yeah, but they made us all give tests and everyone was basically vaccinated. So like, you know. Everyone was basically vaccinated. I think that's a scientific phrase for it. Everyone was basically vaccinated. To get into the game, you need a negative test or a vaccination card. Or you had to like fake a vaccine or a fake a photo shot or a negative test.

No, no. If you just basically vaccinated. I'm pretty much, you know, a couple of vaccines in the group. Here's what's covered in your basic vaccine. Dude, all my homies are Vax. Here's what's covered in basically vaccinated. It's people who are vaccinated. People who've had one of two shots.

People who are thinking about getting vaccinations. People who have made their vaccination appointment who haven't gotten it yet. Think people who... Antibodies. Yeah. Antibodies. People who are not going to get a vaccination, but are not anti-vaxxing. Oh, they're not spreading anti-vaxxing stuff.

That's basically vaccinated as well. People who are healthy, but they swear they're not going to like go visit elderly relatives anytime soon. Yep. Yep. People who... Yeah, yeah. People who are healthy, unvaccinated, but they're like,

all I'm going to do is like go to the bar and maybe a couple of restaurants. But that's it. That's basically vaccinated. If you go with a group of people and you're like, listen, we've all been hanging out just us together for the last year. It's our pod. This is our bubble. We're going to the game in unison.

You're safe, I swear. Basically vaccinated. No, well... Or if your dad's a lawyer. Yeah, that's it. You're basically vaccinated. No, the real problem is that you're definitely basically vaccinated. Yeah.

Half my buddies were Red Sox fans and they were all chirping Brett Gardner. Yeah, basically vaccinated. They're all chirping Brett Gardner and saying like, hey, this shit. And that's probably what got us to take that. I'm a Yankees fan, but they're saying, hey, this shit's a Brett Gardner. Wow, you let that happen at the Bronx Zoo, dude.

Dude, Brett, if you're listening, I'm sorry about my buddy. Oh, you brought Red Sox fans to the Mecca? By the way, Yankee fans are back for another reason, for throwing balls onto the field on Friday night, which was like, I know people like this is horrible, but it's also very funny to be like, the idea that many Yankee fans brought baseballs to the game. Like, what the fuck were they thinking? Totally wasn't my friend.

What message board was this planned on? Because there was some level of coordination that went into it. Is there like a parlor for Yankees fans where they think that they're like communicating underground? They're really organizing basically a massive disruptive event? Well, or is it just, is it simply that Yankee fans, they love the game so much? It's like, all right, we're ready to go to the game.

Okay, we got our, you got your wallet, your phone, your keys, the tickets, your vaccination, and your baseball in case the ump asked for an extra. The baseball and your mitt. Yeah, I like that. It was just a very funny idea. Like, I know people were very upset, but I thought it very funny that that many people had a baseball just randomly.

And it's a great way to delay a game. Oh, for sure. What's it like rooting for the last place team in the entire American League? That's gotta be tough. You need to, you need to- This is a question for Jake and Billy. Yeah, you need to manufacture some fun at these games.

It's early. Do you want Aaron Boone fired? No. It's early. They'll put 9% of the season. Boone out. Boone out. It's fun.

Long way to go. All right, Billy, who's your back? I saw Aaron Judge hit a homerun in Stanton, hit a Grand Slam a couple of days ago, and that's all I need to see. Bombs. Who's back of the week? Bombs.

Wait, okay. Jake, who's your who's back? Do you think that maybe the Yankees have sucked ever since Aaron Judge fixed his teeth? It's honestly since the homerun derby. Yeah. Four years ago. The entire team, the entire Yankees, 27th.

But think about it. He has been hit and bombed. Billy's like my roommate in college who was a sleeper, and every year when there was daylight savings, he would just use that as an excuse for two months. He'd be like, it still hit me pretty hard. Billy's like, yeah. Aaron Judge.

But it's the entire team, too. All the Yankees having to watch Aaron Judge hit the ball that far, they're like, fuck, I'll never be that good. So they all got bad, too. The year is 2035, and Billy's still blaming Aaron Judge's 2017 homerun derby performance for the Yankees' woes. By the way, what do you guys think about this,

for the vaccination stuff? What if we all got our second dose of the Vax on the same day, like a Wednesday, and then we just did a show on Thursday, we're all just like deathly sick? You mean like. That'll be me this Thursday. Oh, like getting coronavirus like I had.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not trying to say that people stole valor, but Billy, do you feel a little bit when people are like, oh, the second shot made me so feel so bad? Yeah, like having it. Well, Billy never tested positive. I trained to the fight.

No, I have a positive test. Yeah, he did, he did, he did. Yeah, I trained to the fight. It's crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. He got corona twice. I think by getting punched in the face while having coronavirus. Imagine if Jose was actually not taking a dive,

and that could have been a whole different situation. Like, I feel bad for Jake Paul, because he got robbed of the opportunity to compete. That's all I gotta say. All right, Jake, who's back this week? This is wild, but the Bayhams are back. Yeah. And they are reunited.

So wild. It was a wildest post. I saw Buddy Bayhams put out a tweet. He's, first of all... Get ready for that picture. He's like three, and he's wearing Syracuse gear. What? Yeah.

So he knew all along? And then he ends up playing for the team when he gets older. And then his brother is now on Syracuse too. Also? And his brother was wearing Syracuse gear too. I got this. Their dad's the coach. No.

That's wild. No. No. That's wild. It is wild. So yeah, he transferred from Cornell to Syracuse, and it's gonna be a wild year. It's wild.

That's fucking wild. Wait till November, but yeah. Yeah. Wild. Oh, man. How far is Ithaca from Syracuse? Under an hour, I think. Not too bad.

Yeah. There you go. No. All I know is Ithaca is gorgeous. That's what they say. Yep. Because it's... There's corn orges.

Herds sucks. One hour, four minutes. No, seriously. Who's that place blows? All right. And there's our travel review. All right. Let's get to our interviews.

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off your first year of Norton 360 with LifeLock. Okay, here he is, Daniel Jeremiah. Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest. It is NFL Network Lead Draft Analyst. You can find him on Twitter at MoveTheSticks. And on Instagram, he's the co-host of the Move the Sticks podcast with Bucky Brooks. It is the one and only Daniel Jeremiah.

We're gonna talk some draft. It's great to see you. It is draft season. What is that helmet? Is that the Wake Forest helmet? Oh no. Oh no, it's Appalachian State. Yes, yes, so I've got the two, right?

So this is like, this is the one that I played in, which by the way weighs like 60 pounds. Like I don't know how that, why they were so heavy back in the day, but this little guy right here is their like patriotic helmet with, look at that, that is sick. They wore a cop pipe is a nice touch too. Did they win when they wore it this year?

I vaguely. You know what? I think they lost to Coastal Carolina. I think I lost. Yeah, I vaguely remember losing a bet and being like, it's cause of those K&E ass helmets. Do you remember just like off hand? Because I was trying to think of this this morning.

What happened in 2008 when it was, you guys were up 21 nothing at halftime to James Madison. Something happened after that. I forget what it was. Do you remember? Oh no, no, see, I don't take ownership of that because I graduated in 2000. So I don't take ownership of any type of a defeat.

Mayak used to give me, Mayak used to get on me because his son was at Villanova and they beat App State in the playoffs one year. And I'm like, Mike, I didn't play on the team, man. I'm not gonna get offended when you're talking about you beat App State. Like I'm not. He got you though.

He got you good. All right, so let's talk some draft. Let's do big picture first. I love to ask the question, how does this draft rank overall compared to let's say the last five drafts? Where does it rank in terms of, this is a dynamite draft,

there's gems everywhere versus, hey, this is kind of a lean one and teams are gonna be struggling to find value in the second and third round. Well, I think like first round wise, normally there's, you know, a bad year is 18 first round grades for me like on guys and then a great year would be 27, 28.

So that's kind of like the range. This year there's like, I have 22, 23 first round guys. So good, good, not like the best we've seen. Depth, it's just weird, man, because like we've always had like a premier edge rusher, like a top 10 dude. We don't have that this year. And that's such a big position

when the way the games played. So the absence of that to me feels like you lessen your enthusiasm a little bit, but there's depth. There's good corners and linemen and stuff in the third round. Okay. Can you explain that to me?

Because this is part of the stuff that I love about the NFL draft experts is like when they put their first round grades on things, you just said that like in a good year, you'd have 28 first round grades on a player. So there's never like, there's never a year where there are 32 first rounders who are deserving of being drafted in the first round.

Yeah, you know, it's kind of convoluted, but like the way that we would do it with the teams I was with is you would give guys grade on kind of like starters, backups, role players. And so when I say like first round grades, I'm saying like guys that are just, you know, pro bowl level players, like guys that have a chance to go to a pro bowl,

that type of ability. So that's kind of the cutoff point for me when I say like first round guys, I mean, these guys are, you know, quality players, they're going to be quality starters, but you know, if I'm taking a guy in the first round, ideally you'd like to think he has a chance to be one of the 10 best guys in his position.

Yeah, and so in that same vein, when you're in a war room, how much do you look at, okay, next year is bigger or the year after is going to be better? How much do you look at it like next two or three, three year window versus just, hey, it's this draft, that's all we're focused on? I think the free agency for sure. So you can back up some of your needs

with next year's free agent class. So you kind of peek ahead a little bit of what could be out there. You cover up some of these needs you might not address in the draft. And I would say quarterbacks, like you're forecasting the quarterbacks out, which I don't know how you do it anymore.

It used to be like, we kind of knew at this time, okay, these are the three or four top guys next year, but then we had Borough come out of nowhere, Kyler Murray come out of nowhere, Mack Jones this year coming out of nowhere. So I didn't know how you do that anymore, but we used to do it. We used to be able to kind of look ahead

and say, okay, if we don't take a quarterback now, our quarterbacks a little older, we feel pretty good about the next couple of years. So along that same line, and you can tell me if I'm way off here, but it does feel like, because the quarterback position is so, so important, it's always been important,

but it feels like it's even more important now to get your guy that a lot of these teams, like what we see with the draft, and we're gonna see it probably first three picks, teams are talking themselves into quarterbacks, where every year now, it's just gonna be quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, three quarterbacks in the top 10,

five quarterbacks in the first round. Do you think that there's like, teams are kind of making a mistake when they're, when they're doing that, when they're putting so much emphasis on a quarterback, when there could be just great players, like Penae Sewell from Oregon, who by all accounts,

could be a Hall of Fame type offensive lineman, but you're gonna take a shot at a quarterback that might not be the guy, but because of the quarterback position, everyone's going for it. Well, I think you're okay if you have, if you have really good quarterbacks that you've elevated maybe a little bit above their level,

and you overdraft them a little bit because of that, you're fine, I still think it's a smart thing to do. You know, when you look at the economics of it, it's just so much cheaper, you know, if you can get one of these studs for the next five years. The problem has been in the past, like Ponder was a, you know, like a fourth round grave, he's a backup,

when he came out, he got taken the first round. You had Gabbard, you had that year where you had kind of those guys, Locker, none of those guys were like first round players, but like an example would be if Justin Herbert, I was way too low on Justin Herbert, but he was still like, I don't know, 18th, 19th overall on my list.

So you take him with the sixth pick, like he's a first round quarterback all day long, maybe you move him up a little bit, paid off tremendously. That's a difference than taking a guy that's a fourth round pick and trying to dream up some scenario where he's a starter. What about a guy like Jamar Chase,

the guys that chose to sit out last year? Is there any noticeable downside to their decision in terms of where they're going and all like the, all the mock drafts? Wait, you gotta, wait, hold on. The way to ask that question is, does Jamar Chase really love football? Cause then everyone gets upset about that online.

You know, you guys ought to ask this question. You ought to have McCaffrey on and be like, dude, remember when people got mad at me cause I missed one meeting as a bowl game? Remember that? Yeah. I'm still mad at him for that. I took him off my big board.

Yes, he doesn't love the game. But seriously, like, is there, because in my opinion, like you get a year off football, I'm sure he's still been working out. Unless it's like a Mike Williams situation where he put on, you know, a ton of weight going into the draft. But with a guy like Jamar Chase,

I feel like that his stocks shouldn't be hurt at all by that decision. But I don't know what they're saying. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. I mean, he showed up and ran on the four threes, jumped 40 inches and is the every bit, the freak that we saw on tape.

So everything matched up. Most of the guys, like the opt out guys, almost all of them came back and tested off the charts. So to me, it's almost like a good indication of what they're going to be like as pros because there's no, there's no babysitter. There's no college coach making sure you're in the meeting room at this time.

You've had all your freedom to do whatever the heck you wanted. You've got a little money, you know, from marketing deals and agents and all that stuff. So have you, if you've been accountable, like I think it's almost a feather in the cap for some of these guys. The only one that I thought it's hurt him a little bit,

but maybe two guys, there's Rousseau from Miami who I still really like, but he tried to get bigger. You know, he had played in like the 240s, 250s. So somebody got in his ear and told him we need to add weight. So he added weight and just looked a little bit clunky and stiff through the pro day. And then Twyman is a D-Lime at Pitt.

He was somebody that played like the two nineties and he put on a bunch of weight again cause somebody told him he needed to get bigger. And you know, he repped out 225 a zillion times and we didn't move very well. So outside of that, all those other guys, I mean, Sewell opted out, worked out great. Slater from Northwestern.

I mean, all those guys tore it up at their pro days. I have a theory at a pro day, is there any chance at all? Because you're seeing a lot of guys this year. It feels like one of the fastest draft classes that we've had in a while. At least like with the career names, you hear about guys running in, you know, the four threes, four forwards that you thought

were gonna be four, five, four, six guys. I think that colleges are making a specific section of their playing field have the like yard markers a little bit closer together. So it's actually, they're running a 38 yard dash instead of 40 yard dash. My question, I think that they should be doing that actually, if they're not, is there any chance

that like when a scout shows up to watch this pro day, do they actually like measure out the 40 yards or do they just sit where they're told with a stopwatch and be like, yep, checks out? Every pro day you have to measure out. So here's why Penn State was on a different level. Because you can measure out 40 yards, 40 yards, but not if it's on a slope, then you get,

so the whole Penn State used to, those guys used to fly and like, yeah, no crap, they're running downhill. Like, you know, it's 40 yards, but these guys are literally running downhill. So that was the way that, you know, you kind of got away with it. But yeah, if you're a scout and you go to a workout

and you don't measure it out, like you kind of fail at your job. But even if it's on a practice field, that's like a field turf field where it's already marked, they still measure those. Yep, and they'll put like a piece of tape in a cone, like, you know, half a yard past what would be the 40 yards on the field.

Because yeah, a bunch of them are not lying properly. Interesting. All right, so let's do the quarterbacks. I want to hear what you have, you know, as your rankings. I want to first though, tell you, our intern has his rankings. He played quarterback, not a big deal, but he did play quarterback,

was recruited at the collegiate level, didn't play at the collegiate level, but he's recruited there. His quarterback rankings are Zach Wilson one, Kellan Mon two, Justin Fields three, Mack Jones four,

Kyle Trask five, Sam Elinger six, Tralance seven, Trevor Lawrence eight. Yeah, no, I mean, I think he's got a tremendous future in talk radio, because this is like, that's like, that's at least eight segments worth of material

off of one list. I mean, that's genius. Yeah, his entire basis on Trevor Lawrence was that he was on such a good team that he never had to deal with things breaking down, which if you watch Trevor Lawrence, that's just not true, but that was his takeaway. Again, I think, I think he's created so many talking points

and so much content that can go on every platform, that that's, that's what a list is all about, right? That's what we're all trying to do, is just get a talking point, he's accomplished that. Let's put it another way, is Trevor Lawrence a ring chaser for going to Clemson, instead of going to a program that might not have had as much talent,

where he wanted to be the guy? Yeah. Look son, you want to come here and do what's always been done, or you want to go over there and try and do something that's never been done? Yeah, exactly. I think that's a great,

how many times has like, the Idaho coach pitched that? Yes. He's like, look, you've got USC in Oregon, okay? Go do what everybody else does, fine, just be like the sheep, or you could walk that narrow path, come to the vandals and let's hoist that trophy together.

Yes. That speech has been given. So his entire premise behind Zach Wilson going first overall, because I think the only tape that he's seen on Zach Wilson was at his pro day, when he was throwing. And he made that one throw that went, from the left hash all the way to the right pylon,

and Billy just fell in love with him, because of that one throw. Is Zach Wilson, like, does he have, I'll put it this way, does he have the best arm in this draft? I think he's the best thrower, like for sure, like just in terms of every throw. If you had a game of horse with all the quarterbacks

and just said, I'm gonna make a throw, you try and duplicate it, he would win, because he could contort his body and do so many crazy throws that he would, it was a dunk contest type thing as throws, he would win. So to me, he's the most talented thrower. He just, you get Trevor Lawrence with a bigger frame. He's gonna, to me, the durability with Zach

is a little bit of a knock. He's had a shoulder injury on his throwing arm. So that to me is why I have him second. But I don't think it's crazy. There are legit, really, really smart coaches and personnel guys in the league that have Wilson over Lawrence. That's not a crazy, crazy take.

Any of them have seven spots over Lawrence? No, no, and that's why they're coaching and not trying to produce content, because those are two different job criteria. So give us your top five quarterbacks, because this is obviously, especially with the way the picks have stacked in, the first three are gonna be quarterbacks

and maybe even four. So how do you have them ranked? I have it Lawrence, then I have Wilson. And then to me, like those are pretty distinct. Like I have Lawrence clearly one, Wilson clearly two. I think it's a really good discussion between Lance and Fields. I think they're really close.

I could be persuaded either way. If I had more time to visit with both of them and get more comfortable with them, I think it wouldn't surprise me at all if you went one or the other. I have Trey Lance over Fields, just with the decision making, protecting the football. I give him a little bit of a bump there,

but that to me is like the biggest debate is those two guys and then I have Mac Jones behind them. So it's interesting that you put Mac Jones at five because he's the name that you've seen kind of climbing up the draft board as we've gotten further into this off season. And I feel like he's the smokescreen name. Like when Kyle Shanahan or somebody in the 49ers

is letting word leak out that they might be considering Mac Jones, is that just bait to get other teams to believe that they might have to trade up? Yeah, I just don't know how it benefits them, you know? Like the Jets are gonna take Zach Wilson. Lawrence is gonna go to the Jags. Like you basically have the first pick in the draft

with two players off the board. So like trying to hide your intentions, this doesn't make any sense. I can take you guys kind of behind the curtain on this thing, but I don't think I've ever told anybody this yet, but we were doing the pro day when the trade happened, right? So the Niners end up, I heard there was a chance it might happen.

So I kind of alerted some people, be on the lookout, we could have a trade. So we're watching Zach Wilson throw, boom. 49ers have traded up to three. So you're trying to like react to it in real time. And so I'm like, you know, this points to me to trade Lance because we had Steve White, our reporter there. He'd went and found Shanahan and Shanahan was like,

Garoppolo's not gonna go anywhere. We wanna keep Jimmy. So I'm like, oh, this points to like, you know, it's either Lance or Fields. Like you don't have to play him right away, but like huge upside. And then, so I'm talking about this. And then I get a text from somebody

who's plugged in and they're like, hey, you know, I don't think you're talking about the right quarterback. And I'm like, I write back like literally on, like we're on the air, but you just see Zach Wilson. So I'm not on screen. So I'm texting him, I text him back.

And I'm like, not Trey Lance question mark. And he writes back, he goes, no. And I go, if this, I literally write back, if this is Mac Jones, I'm gonna fall off my chair. And he wrote back, you might wanna put a mattress next to your desk. And I'm like, oh, we could. So that's like, if you're watching that show live,

I'm like, this Trey Lance, Justin Fields. And I'm like, you know, there could be another name to keep an eye on here. Like Mac, don't sleep on Mac Jones potentially being the pick here. But that's how you kind of, you're hearing this stuff as it's going on real time. Interesting.

And then what would be your, like you have, you have Mac Jones ranked fifth. He obviously wins the national title. He's got an unbelievable Alabama team. What is his like weakness or what is his, the thing you look at and you're like, this is what might hamper him from being a 10 year pro in the NFL.

Well, I think he, I think he can be a 10 year pro. I think he's gonna be a solid starting quarterback. It's just traditionally you're not taking a guy with a third pick that, you know, it's, to me, I think he's got like a lot of acceptable traits. Like you can win with this. They're like acceptable, acceptable, but not exceptional. And when you're trading multiple first round picks

to go up to the third pick, I think you have ideas of, man, this guy can take this offense to a whole different place. And I think he's just like fits in, plugs in and can make the thing work as a quality starter. But I just never, when I watch him that I envisioned, A, he'd be the third pick or B, or B, like you'd be trading all the way up to go get him.

It's just that surprise. Is it crazy to look at these five quarterbacks that are all gonna go in the first round and know statistically that two, maybe even three of them probably won't pan out, but like it's hard to sit here in the moment and be like, I, you know, two or three of these guys will not work. Even though we're sitting here and saying

they have all this upside and you know, Trey Lance and Justin Fields and Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are all seemingly gonna be great pros. It's the facts or the facts. Like it is what it is. Like there's a bunch of, several of these guys aren't gonna work out.

And I think fit in and what's around them to support them is gonna be a big impact on that. There's very few of these guys. Like that's why I think Trevor's pretty unique. Like Andrew Luck when he was coming out like, okay, I don't care where he goes. Like he's gonna be good. Like that's gonna work.

Trevor Lawrence, wherever he goes, he's gonna be good, it's gonna work. But so most of the other guys like Trey Lance, you know, what's around him with a play collar, the offensive line and the pieces, like that's gonna largely determine whether or not he's gonna be a great pro or not. It's no fault of his own.

He's at the mercy of whatever they do. The difference now versus like 10 years ago is with the contracts, it's not as big a deal. Like it used to be like, you're screwed. If you miss on a kid up there, you're screwed. The Bucks just won a Super Bowl coming off and missing a quarterback with the first pick. Yeah.

Future Hall of Famer though. Future Hall of Famer, James Winston. No, but yeah, but look, the Cardinals just, like Cardinals, like that Josh Rosen's gone, Kyler Murray's in, like you have no harm, no foul. Wait, so one last question about the quarterbacks. And this one interests me because I hate the Packers and I hope they don't have success

past Aaron Rodgers, but if Aaron Rodgers plays for another three or four years, which he most likely will, Jordan Love's got nowhere to go. How do you rank Jordan Love amongst these five quarterbacks? Oh, I mean, that's hard. I mean, coming out, like just grade-wise, he would definitely be behind my top four guys.

Okay, good. So him and Mac Jones are like polar opposite players, but grade-wise, it's similar to me. Yeah, because that's an interesting one because if you're trying to think like, hey, I don't have a top 10 pick, I'm not gonna get one of these guys, there are other guys floating around

that you might have graded, you know, Sam Donald going to the Panthers. You might have had him graded higher than one of these guys and take a shot at him. Yeah, people like freaked out on me because I had tweeted out, if I stacked Sam Donald in with this class, like I would go Trevor, I would take Zach,

and then it would be Sam. Like I would take Sam over Lance and Fields and people like, you're crazy. Like dude, he's 23 years old. He's, I loved him coming out of USC. I still think he's really good. He's just hadn't had a chance. So you have to do that.

If you don't have a quarterback, those teams Denver had to do it. Obviously Carolina felt good about them. They had to mix Sam in with this current group and see where he laid. So you said you've got Fields and Lance, pretty much like A and B, which one has the bigger hands?

That would be my determination factor for flip of a coin. Hand size. Can I look it up? Yeah, how do you not know this? You should know this off like the back of your hand. This is really a failure on my part. Somebody on Reddit actually today

just graded quarterbacks by neck girth. And they said that the quarterbacks with the girthiest necks have the best history in the NFL. So number one would be Trey Lance if we're just looking at the neck. Justin Fields is nine and an eighth. And I'll find you Trey Lance right now.

It's probably bigger than that. Trey Lance is also nine and eight. So the same. Wow. What do you do? So then I think we have to go to arm length. Then I've got 32 and a half for Fields. Okay.

Let's see. Trey Lance, 31 and a half, man. Justin Fields, that was wrong. Okay. Five-finger tip. So you're gonna have to fix that very quickly. I've got time to flip that before we get to. How close are we to actually getting into phrenology

with some of the quarterbacks? Like skull measurements. Is that, that's probably a bridge too far. You know what, you know, they really do the, like the wrist measurements and the ankle measurements. I was not on a team that really value, some teams like really, really value that stuff. Wrist size.

Hands? Yeah. Go ahead. Sorry. What's even crazier is like the, the 40s, we were talking about how the 40s aren't as relevant this year because everybody ran for three, seemed like the, most of the teams have all the GPS data.

And the stuff that they're sorting on that is insane. Yeah. Like how they're able to do that. We're talking about like a safety. How much ground does he cover in the first, you know, you know, second and a half of a play? Like they can, they have all that information. So nuts.

I would imagine, I mean, with all the information and how incredible it's become where we have all this tape and everything, I'd imagine there's going to be a switch where teams start drafting more so just on character. Like, and guys who, you know, want, not want it more, but kind of want it more because it feels like that's where you can find an edge instead of just finding the fastest, strongest, biggest guy.

Yeah. All the data is going to give you the, a lot of the stuff on the player, you know? So your, your scouts are going to provide context and then they're going to provide the character stuff. Like that's kind of, that's the role of the scout. Honestly, one of the reasons why I didn't want to go back into it and, and why I left because I got to the point where I was doing so much background and character work

on guys and I'm like, this is not, I like watching tape and talking about him as football players. I really don't care to talk to his high school coach for 30 minutes on the phone about a fight he got into it and in an outburger, you know, 20 years ago. Yeah. Which I've, I've had those conversations. You never got the gig where you were assigned to just stay

in a bar and see if Justin Blackman showed up for a week. No, no, that, but I know dudes that have, that have, have done that stuff. It's just brutal, man. Yeah. What, I have to ask this. I don't understand what Ryan Pace is doing with the Bears quarterback position, but what is the,

what have you heard? Are they going to try to draft someone? And if they do draft someone, who's the guy that you have that's maybe a third or fourth rounder that's like, hey, if everything goes right for him, he could be Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson, something like that. Well, I mean, I like Kellen Mond is like a second,

third round pick, but according to your intern, he's long gone by then. Yeah, Billy's gone too. No shot, no shot. He's gone to the Jets. Yeah, yeah. Billy's high on a lot of my third, fourth round guys, so that kind of hurts my list a little bit.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if like five years from now we look back at this interview, he was building a fucking spot on with it. Crushed it. He's in your seat on the hotel network. Trevor Lawrence played two years then retired because he didn't love the game. I've got Billy's job, he's got mine,

like that's totally happening. Who do you have as the best athlete in this draft? And why is it Kyle Pitts? Oh yeah, that's probably a good one. Yeah, I mean, he's a freak, man. Did you hear the rumor? This would be incredible. And I just like to fantasize about this.

This is a situation where we have too much time before the draft that the 49ers traded up to three to draft Kyle Pitts and have George Kittle and Kyle Pitts on the same offense and then just fuck people up that way. I tweeted it like my first mock draft, I put Pitts to, this is like in January, I put Pitts at 12 to the Niners

and then, and people lost their minds like, and I'm like, they're like, why would they, they've got Kittle, why would they take him? I'm like, first of all, there's no chance on earth, he's gonna be there with the 12th pick. I did this just because I wanted to fantasize for a minute about what Kyle Shanahan would do with Kyle Pitts.

Like you break the huddle, like you don't know who's playing receiver, running back, tight end, anything. All those guys can do everything, but he ain't gonna be there. And then, then this, Wait, but they can draft him at three. I'm saying, we went from like people being crazy mad

at me for saying he was gonna be the 12th pick to know people being like, they've traded all these first rounders to go get him at three. Like that's how the draft cycle like kind of comes around. But I, dude, I don't think I love him. He's the second best player in the draft for me behind Lawrence, but if you trade all that,

you got to take a quarterback. Could you imagine though? Could you imagine? You know what? Oh, it would be awesome. It would be awesome. Tired of imagining quarterbacks in Kyle Shanahan system. Why are watching tight ends in Kyle Shanahan system?

Yeah. And that's in Kyle Shanahan is gotten, I think, enough leeway in terms of his like success and, you know, perceived genius that if he did that, I think people would buy it. It's like Belichick can draft anyone and everyone would be like, oh, that's all famer. Like Kyle Shanahan's approaching that level of, what does he see that no one else sees?

That's a good point. And, and dude, why we're kind of workshopping this here. We take Kyle Pitts right there at three. We can get, I think at 43, we can get Billy's second quarterback there in the second round. You come out of this thing with Pitts and Billy's number two signal caller.

Yeah. Billy probably has been maced in the fullback from Michigan going in the second round. And imagine that. I mean, he loves fullbacks too. You've got use check. You've got Mason, who's blocking who? You know, you don't even know. I love it.

Yeah. So I, there, one of my favorite parts about the draft is like the different terminology and how it evolves from the past. Like back when you were scouting, one of the big terms that people started to use was road grader. Road grader became like a real thing in 90s, 2000s. Then it kind of evolved into a dude.

You just say like that guy's a dude. And now I'm starting to hear the term war daddy bubble up a little bit. Can you explain to me what a war daddy is? Chill out, Alex Cooper. Because it sounds fucking awesome. And I want to know what it is. Yeah. He just, he's just an absolute butt kicker.

Like he's, you know, you can't, you can't do anything about it. He's, he's the most violent physical player on the field. He's got hurt. He's playing with a torn ACL. He's just, he's a war daddy. So who's the war daddy in this draft? Yeah.

Oh, that's a great question. Well, usually a war daddy. Well, I'll give you one. Like Quinn Minards from Wisconsin Whitewater is like a war daddy. Like he just beat, he's gonna beat you up. Is that the center? Yes.

That's the guy who was like blocking trees in a Canada fishery. Yeah. And snapping to, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember watching all those videos. Yes. Okay. That's a war daddy. I like that. Those guys last. So if you, let's just play this game real quick.

The, let's see. I'm looking at the, the picks. Oh, I remember what I wanted to say. Devonte Smith, you just were on with our friend, Steven Shea. I have a debate with him, which I am fully going to gaslight him that he said the opposite if I am proven wrong.

But is Devonte Smith really not going to be picked in the top 10? I just got, it just finished this conversation with him. He's very invested in this conversation. Oh yeah. He doesn't realize that he, he unfortunately doesn't, he takes everything very seriously. He doesn't realize that if I'm proven wrong,

I would just deny and, and, and flip it on him. Right. Exactly. But tell me, is there any chance he goes top 10? I think that I told him that I think it's probably 60, 40 in his favor that he doesn't go top 10. So, but it's, it's still, you're very much in the game. Like it's, it's Detroit is your, that's your spot. Why is it, his legs too skinny?

Well, I think, like I told him, like he's going to be a really good pro. I don't think it, you know, your frame has anything to do with how good of a player you're going to be, but just historically, you know, the height, weight, speed receivers, the ones that go in the, in the top 10. And this year with five quarterbacks pits and tackles,

like that could just kind of push him and waddle. I have, I think there are like two of my top six rank players in the whole draft, but I think both of them could go outside the top 10. See, all you have to say, if it does happen, be like, no, I just had him in my top 10. I had him, my grade was a top 10 grade. No, I'm just going to gaslight him and flip it and be like,

I always thought he was out of the top 10. You said he was in the top 10. You thought his talent was good enough. His measurables, his speed. Yeah, I've already started that process to be honest. By the way, do you guys want me to send you, I have from when I was with the Ravens, we had a scouting, like a seminar type thing

at training camp one year where they, we just went over scouting terms. So I have, it's a word document with just hundreds of scouting terms. I love it. I love it. What's your favorite one? Or what's the one?

Well, we had an old, we had an old, an old scout. And fortunately his name is Ron Marsnak. He's since passed away. He was with the Cowboys forever. He was with us in the Ravens. And he used to call like defensive players. He used to say, this guy's a butt slapper. And I had been, I had been,

I had been in the room for like a couple of meetings before as a first year scout. Like we leave there and I'm like, hey, coach Ron keeps saying this guy's a butt slapper. Like, what does that mean? He goes, oh, it means he never arrives in time to make the tackle, but he slaps the butt of the guy who did. Okay, no, I know.

That's great. I like that's great. He also used to say, he used to say a guy was, he was a wood hauler. And I'm like, a wood, what the heck is a wood hauler? It's like, think about somebody that's hauling wood as a blocker. They're kind of like hauling wood.

Like they're kind of moving around. They're moving around like this. I'm like, oh, it's a pretty good descriptive. Yeah. Oh man. I feel like there's like two stacks of words. On the left, you have words like dude, butt, dick, hips, yeah.

And no, no, I think hips is the second one. And then like oily. And then on the right, you've got like hips, grader, daddy, and you just, The word bang. You pick one out of every pile and then that's your description of a guy. But I love, that's part of the draft

that I love so much. I'm looking at the top 10 here and the Falcons are talking about maybe trading out, right? They put word out that they're open to hearing offers for that pick. Is there any chance that the Dolphins trade back up into number four? And if so, how many times can the Dolphins trade a pick?

Like, could teams just keep trading a pick and then they wouldn't have to actually make one? That's a great question. Great question. Yeah, because the clock resets once the trade's made, right? Yeah. Infinitely going back and forth. Yeah, I guess technically you could do that.

I think the Eagles are more likely to trade back up as opposed to the Dolphins. Like the Eagles went from what, six to 12. And then I think to me, like if pits were to slide a little bit, I could, you know, I don't think that will happen, but if for some reason Cincinnati goes with Sewell and then you have the Dolphins

and they like Jamar Chase, take Jamar Chase, I could see the Eagles maybe saying, okay, we could trade back up to seven or eight for pits and maybe still hold on to the first round pick next year you got for sliding from six to 12. Like, Howie Roseman just, he loves that, he loves the action. So it would not surprise me at all if he traded back only to come back up again.

Yeah, I'm gonna make you do a reputation pick both ways. Okay. I want the guy who you think is going to be great and that you've fallen in love with. Can't be one of the obvious ones. And then a guy, we won't bash anyone, but a guy who there's a lot of love for him and you just kind of don't see it the same way.

Yeah, I'll say Jameen Davis, the linebacker from Kentucky, he's like one of my favorite players in the draft. So he'll probably go late first, but he's a stud man, like he is so explosive and he can really cover. So linebackers like that that can cover these tight ends, like there's tremendous value. So I love his game.

And then, I mean, I think Penae Sewell is a really good player, but I don't think he's kind of the hall of fame level player that he's been described as. So, and I'm a little bit on an island from the media standpoint, but I know there's a lot of teams that feel that way. So I like him. I like Slater better than him.

I thought Slater was just better on tape than he was. And I liked the top three tackles last year for me were Bekton, Worfson, Wills, those three guys, I would take them over Penae. He's still young. He's got a huge upside. He's gonna be a good player. I'm not saying he's not a buster or anything like that.

He's a really good player, but I'm not. He doesn't love football. And we'll put a graphic up that says Daniel Jeremiah Projects at the school and then Big Red Letter's bus. No, I appreciate that though, because I have not heard anyone say, like, hey, I don't think he's a surefire hall of famer, which that's kind of what he's been talked about,

like how he's been talked about. So I think that's also, I think Jeff Swartz just tweets about him too much, so. Yeah, Jeff. Jeff's great, but the funny thing about this, the funny thing about this is like, your conviction always gets challenged. Like it's one thing, like you have a take on somebody

and then you hop on social media and you're just getting braided and beat up for your opinion on the guy, right? And that can cause you, you know, usually that doesn't shake your confidence. Like, okay, this guy didn't know anything. I, you know, I hopefully am better quote unquote trained, but then I'm not, I'm not a huge Penae stool guy.

And one of the reasons is I've said, I was around Jonathan Ogden with the Ravens. I was around Joe Thomas with the Browns. I was around Jason Peters with the Eagles. Like these are studs, but it does shake your confidence a little bit when one of those guys, i.e. Joe Thomas, sends you a text like, bro, I love Penae stool.

How do you not have him as the top guy? I'm like, Joe, I've been saying he's not you. He's like, well, he kind of reminds me of myself. I'm like, just stop, just stop. Oh no. That'll shake you a little bit when you get that one. Yeah, can you, here's one that I've had a debate with some people, some BYU fans online.

What happened with Zach Wilson's captain ship? Was he a captain or was he not? So, yeah, I did like a deep dive on this. I did too. I had like, people were sending me pictures of him with the sea on his chest. And then saying, but no, no, no, no, but that wasn't at the beginning of the year.

And then he was a game captain, not a team captain. And this is voted on by the team. And this is, and I'm like, there's so much information out there on this whole thing. And I'm like, then the people are sending me pictures of him walking out with the captains. Yes. I'm like, so what would you find out?

I'm desperate to know. Cause I had, I literally had this, like one of those moments like, hey, put your phone down, dude. You're debating with some dude who doesn't have an avatar who's sending you Zach Wilson pictures of the sea on his chest and I'm sending him back articles that say he wasn't voted a captain.

What did you find? So what I found out was that it was later on in the process. He had, you know, earned his captaincy or what have you. So it wasn't, you know, right from the beginning, but he had earned it. But I didn't even, I didn't even really put it. I just was talking to the coaches and trying to figure out like, you know, leadership wise and all that stuff.

And he checked all that stuff. He was good there. So I wasn't going to obsess over that. But not voted a captain. No, it sounds like he was a game captain. Yeah. Meaning like, yeah, that's asterisk. It should have been a sea with an asterisk next to it.

And it's stupid. It is stupid. But at the same time, it's very hard to not be a captain when you're the quarterback. Well, I think the way it was kind of explained to me was he actually had to kind of win the job again, you know, coming back. Cause he played really well in 2018,

then has the shoulder injury on his throwing shoulder right after that season. Coming off a bowl game, I think he was like 18 for 18 in the bowl game and 18. So it has his shoulder surgery. So he's recovering from that. He's totally, he's not totally healthy. He plays OK in 2019, then hurts his thumb.

So he missed some time with that on his throwing hand. So 2019 was really kind of recover from the shoulder bad thumb. And then 2020 was like a totally different dude because he was healthy. He was totally healthy. Yeah. I got one last question for you.

Is there going to be over under 0.5 kickers and punters drafted this year? Oh, over. Yeah. I haven't watched any of them, but I'll just, I'll go with the odds on that one to take the over. Okay. I think there is one that's like rumored for the sixth round.

Okay. That's a great, that's a, hold on. That's a great reminder because every year, two days before the draft, I'll call a GM and I'll go, hey, I have not watched any of these kickers and punters. I really don't care to just tell me who the top three punters are, who the top three kickers are. And I will sell that like it's nobody's business

when those guys get picked. All right. So follow up. The draft is going to be in Cleveland this year. They're letting fans onto the field to kick field goals as the draft is going on. Be great for Cody Park. He's confident.

Yeah. If hypothetically, somebody were to step up during the draft, maybe, maybe it's on that Saturday. Maybe it's, you know, you're getting the sixth round, seventh round, just a random person steps up there and absolutely drills a 35 yard or splits the operates by like 10 yards would have been, would have been good from like 46.

Is there any chance that maybe Mike Rabel tells Sloan and beat it? I'm drafting this guy. I would say similar to the odds of Devontae Smith going in the top 10. That's a 40, 60 operation there. OK. All right.

Keep your hopes alive. I like those odds. I wasn't talking about me. Just like a fan. Just odds for the fan. If it was the fan, the brown bag, brown. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yes, that is what we give. All right. I know we probably asked you this last year when you were on, but I love to just do it. Give us a name that you just totally missed. You screwed up worst pick ever three, let's say three or four years ago. Well, I mean, I go back further than that.

And the obvious one for me is Danny Watkins. I was in Philadelphia when we drafted him. OK. And in hindsight, I know we had talked to him on the phone. Scouts, I don't remember if it was that night or it was the next day. And we were talking to him and it was some noise in the background. And he was out like, I think he was,

is there such thing as like pig hunting or hog hunting? Yes, yes. I watched a video on YouTube, Black Hog Down. They just go in a helicopter and they fucking shoot him all up. I swear to God. He was out doing that like after the draft. And then, you know, obviously, he loved firefighting and all that stuff and hunting.

He didn't really, he was one who legitimately did not like football. But that was, yeah, that was not great, man. And you're like, yeah, that didn't end well. What about as an analyst? Like, let's say three years ago. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. And Mahomes is my worst one.

I mean, because, you know, I thought he was total boomer bust. All, you know, all this raw talent, but he was so like not ready to go. So I was hesitant on that one. And obviously, this guy's the freaking best player in the NFL. So that's pretty bad mess. Yeah. And maybe best player in the history of the NFL.

That would be tough. Yeah, that's not great. That's not on the billboard. What about this quote here? Billy sent this over. It's Trevor Lawrence. The quote is, well, it's actually from his dad. Trevor Lawrence's dad on Trevor's mentality.

He's not, I want to win a Super Bowl at all costs. Vote from his high school coach. He could walk away from it tomorrow and be fine. Oh, what do you think? That's breaking news right there. Yeah, I think Billy made this quote up. I tried to get you to the Shannon Sharp, Kevin Durant. Yeah, he photoshopped that for sure, for sure.

Yeah, I would, all I would say on that stuff, like, because you'll see different quotes come out on guys, but I would be like, look, what's the preparation like? And what's the play like? If he's put in the time, you know, if he doesn't die with each and every loss, like I think Barrow would, like Barrow was wired differently than that, like Barrow wears those losses big time.

But if they're both put in all the preparation, yeah, that's not a big deal. Yeah. All right, well Daniel Jeremiah, thank you so much. Always fun. We're excited for the draft. Everyone go check them out. Move the sticks on Twitter and Instagram,

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And now, here's Troops. And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Troops, recurring guest. You can go listen to his podcast back again. He is our colleague. He's an Arsenal fan. And we just started talking before we got on.

He is a huge proponent of the Super League. He knows this is great for soccer. He knows that finally Americans have gotten their hands into the beautiful game, and we have finally figured it out where we can get, no, no, no, there's no Premier League. It's the Super League. So, Troops, congratulations all your hard work done.

It's a great day to be a soccer fan. No, it's not blood. Why? Because they're taking the heart and soul out of football blood. You lot don't understand. You lot, you know what I'm saying? In NBA, no one gets relegated blood.

You play the same dead teams every year. It's boring blood. Like, there's nothing fun like, you know what I'm saying? You see, all the playoffs, fuck the playoffs, blood. You know what I'm saying? I want my FA Cup. I want my caribou cup. I want my Champions League, my Europa League,

my Premier League. I don't want just one tournament blood. Well, okay. I hear you, but if you combined all that, wouldn't it make the Super League? I mean, it's super. It's literally super. It says it in the name.

No, but all it is is money, you know what I'm saying? It's just all the... Okay, what? Let's actually talk about it and say, we'll keep trolling you, but let's explain it to the people who, we did it off the top of the show, but we probably did a terrible job

because we don't really know, but we kind of know. So explain how this happened and whether it's actually going to happen. That's the part I think that we have no idea and we just guessed that. Can this actually happen? Will it actually go through? Well, this has been rumored for years now.

You know what I'm saying? It's been rumored for a long time. Former Arsenal coach, Arsenal Wenger, came out and said in 2018 that in years to come, there could be a format where the elite teams of football break away from the leagues and form their own type of leading, like a super league format.

Now... What year was that? This was in 2018. 20, wait, what? 2018. 2018. Okay, that's fucking cool. 2018.

2018. Fake hammer, brother, swear down. 2018 in it. So he said that there's a possibility that happening and you thought that it was an empty threat that was put out there? No, not an empty threat because when you look at the way football's going,

it is money-orientated now. If you don't spend, you don't win. The top, the clubs at the top are the richest. That's how it is now. It's not like back in the day when you could grow the youth and then put the youth into the team and then grow the team, like, Man United did that, Arsenal did that back in the day.

You can't do that no more. You have to go out and spend the big bucks and get your bapes and your mess, you get me, them kind of players to elevate. So you could see it coming. You never thought it would come because the clubs that were involved in England are the historic clubs

that are what you call them, the founding fathers. Like, you look what you're founding fathers in America, isn't it? They're the ones that beat you. Yeah. No, they never beat that. They never beat that. Do you consider that, like, in a way result

because, like, you get a point for that because you lost in America? No, not a tool plan. You get me. We chose to lose to you, like, just remember that you don't still speak English, you don't speak American. You wanted the higher draft pick.

You tanked that one. Got it. You're a wet-out brother. By the way, troops, I got bad news for you. One of the founding fathers of the NFL is actually the Chicago Bears. Oh, is that your team? Yeah, but that actually bodes poorly

for what you're going to say here because the Bears are a terribly run organization. And it sounds like now you have the founding fathers of the EPL, like, they're going to ruin the entire Premier League, right? So what happens when they make the Super League? Will those teams still, those teams won't play in the Premier League at all?

So what will happen is if this Super League comes to fruition, then there's no more, we can't play in the Premier League, we can't play in the Champions League, we can't play in the FA Cup, the Carribrough Cup. Our players can't play in the national football never. UEFA have come out and said that they will ban, no, sorry, FIFA have come out and said that they will ban

anybody who plays for a European Super League team from playing international football and any other form of football, apart from European Super League football. So you're not only fucking over the fans who go to games week in, week out, the other people that don't support the big teams who dream of playing at the Emirates Stadium,

playing at Old Trafford, playing at Anfield. Even PFT's team, you're taking the dream away from PFT. Like, he's running for top four right now. He's running for Champions League blood. That dream is dead. Wait, when it be easy, your dream is finished. Wouldn't it be easier for like a middle of the road team to then win the EPL if they get rid of Arsenal?

No, but then this is the thing. But it's not Arsenal, because you're not in the top four, but like a team that was good, if they're no longer in the league, it makes it easier for like the crystal palaces of the world. Now, but then this is the thing, the crystal palaces of the world,

you're taking their chance of playing at an Emirates and Anfield, at a Burnabout, at a New Camp, at a Bayern Munich Stadium, at a U-Ventus' Ground, at the San Siro. You're taking that dream away from them. You're taking the dream away from Leicester, who won the league in 2016. Some little, any team won the league

up against United, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, the greats of English football. They won the league and then had the chance to go and play in Europe. You're taking that away from them. So then they can't play Madrid away. They can't play Barcelona away. Their fans ain't gonna experience what we experience

on a daily, you understand? Because for us, like right now, the teams in the top six who are in the Super League, we're in pole position, because our money's coming to us, we're gonna have this and that, but we're defending, like the true fans, we're defending the smaller teams,

because we're like, now you're taking the piss plug, because I enjoy going to the small grounds. It's more homely, it's raw, it's where football's made. Like I remember when Arsenal, we played a team called Sutton United, they was in, they was in the, they was in like the fifth, they was in like five leagues below us.

I mean, our ground is 60,000 capacity. Their ground is two, their ground's 2,000. When you go away at our Premier League ground, you get minimum 2,000 away fans to go to that ground. We had 200 fans in that ground. And you was like, you could literally touch the players' blood. Like you could, Alexis was there,

I was like, I could grab Alexis, I could grab Ozil. You're taking that away from manplug. Okay, I actually, It's a bastard's money driven. I'm understanding this more. I made the analogy for American sports fans, like if the top baseball teams just said, fuck it, because they can spend more money.

But actually, the more you explain it, the way to like fully understand how truly fucked this is and fucked up this is, would be if it was college. And like the, cause like, all right, so for the Big 10 football, which you won't understand, but our listeners will, everyone gets mad because Ohio State always wins. But my point is always that, you know,

the year that you beat Ohio State is an insane year for your team. Even though you're not gonna be as good as Ohio State year in and year out, playing at Ohio State, going to Ohio State, beating them in Columbus is like a memory that you'll have forever as a fan. So if you took like Ohio State and, you know,

the top teams out of each, Alabama didn't play in the SEC anymore and they played in their own league. Or if it was college basketball, if like Duke didn't play in March Madness, well, sorry, that's a bad analogy, cause that actually, you can think about it this year. But, but it would be similar like that.

You would have those moments that you lose, where it's like, so I get it. This actually really, really sucks. Now my question though, you, we talked about this at the top too, about how FIFA could basically ban Super League players from playing in the World Cup. Do you think that that would actually stop players

from playing in the Super League? Do you think that these type of bands will actually have the effect of keeping the Super League from forming? I think it will, because the true players, as a child, you dream of playing for your, of playing for your country. You dream of playing for your favorite team,

but your country's always a dream. You watch that as a kid, you watch the Euros. You see man like Gasquain banging them in top bins, Shearer banging it in top bins. You're like, yo, that could be me. Like a French kid growing up. He could have seen OMRI winning the World Cup, Zidane winning the World Cup and Bappé winning the World Cup.

Like, yo, I want to do that. Like I want to be the next in Bappé. I want to score in the World Cup final. You're taking that away from the players block. So how do the players even feel themselves, bro? How do the players at this top six plus feel themselves? They should be sitting there.

The real players should be sitting there and be like, now fuck this, I'm not playing the next game. I'm not playing the next game, bro. But if the salaries are high enough, if they're paying, you know, tens of millions of dollars more per year than they could get in another league, you're going to see a lot of those players try to do it.

But I guess my question is, why is FIFA taking this stand? Like what's in it for FIFA to kind of side with the old way of how things have always been and to shut down the start of this new league? Is there like a direct incentive for them to keep things in place the way they are? Like the way it is now, yeah,

is every team has an opportunity. Every team has a chance. No matter how shit you are, how broke you are, you've got a chance. When you take this away, so like in England, you've got the FA Cup. You can have a Sunday league team, yeah, that plays or no, that plays,

they just play on a Sunday, kick a bat in the park. But they have a chance to play in the FA Cup. But they have to qualify, but imagine they qualified and they got to the third round and then they got drawn against an Arsenal or a Knight in a way. These are man that just literally go to work, normal guys, could be builders, plumber, doctors,

and then their hobbies football, they play football to stay fit. And then next thing you know, you've been drawn against Arsenal away. You're walking out of the Emirates stadium, 60,000 fans, hairs on the back of your fucking hair, just hairs on the back of your neck standing up black. You understand?

You're taking the core away from what it is, blood, and you're ruining it. And then the real players that will sit there and be like, now fuck that, I'm not going there. I'm going to go Leicester, because if I go Leicester, I can play for England, I can go to the World Cup, I can win more trophies. If you go to the Super League, yeah, you'll have money,

but when you get into sport, when you finish sport, you're judged on what you want. You're not judged on how much you've made, you're judged on what you want. Because if you're great in football, if you win things and dominate in your sport, and dominate in your position, when you finish football, because you're a great, those will open for you.

People will want to talk to you. People will want you to manage children. People will want you to work, like if you're a legend of a club, they want you to come in the club, because you're a legend. People that sign for the club, you all want to sign for Arsenal, because of Ornery.

Boom, Ornery's in the club. Have to be Cole. Fuck yourself, man, yeah. But I guess what I'm asking is, I get that. I get why you want to keep these traditions in place. It makes a lot of sense. I'm curious why FIFA is making it publicly known that they're opposed to the formation.

Like the governing body of FIFA that controls international soccer, why are they opposed to a new league that would pay the players more, but then obviously ruin the institutions that they have? What's in it for FIFA to come out so forcefully on the side of the fans, their credit?

This is like the first time I remember FIFA doing something publicly, where everybody was like, thank you, yes. We appreciate it. So what's in it for them? What's their angle on this? I don't think there's nothing in it for them. I just think that they've looked at it

from a human perspective. And because some of their fissures at FIFA could support a small team. It's not guaranteed that the FIFA officials will support an Arsenal or a Man United, or a U.S. or a Real Madrid, or a Barcelona. They could support a Valencia. They could support a Villarreal.

They could support an Aston Villa. They could support a Swansea. They could support a Brentford. They could support a Barney. They could support... It's not guaranteed that they support a big team. So they probably feel affected as well by that. And then they could have children.

And then their kids could wanna play for their country. And then their kids are like, yo, dad, yo, what's going on? So if I play for them, I can't do that. So I think FIFA's just looked at it from a human perspective. And they're like, football, it works the way it is. You know what I'm saying?

We could always better it, but we don't have to break away and literally change the whole thing. Yeah, everything you're saying makes sense. And I mean, I agree. We're gonna troll because it's fun. And it's also... Yeah, I know.

It's very clear that this is an Americanized version of sport, which makes it very funny because, just to be like, yeah, we fixed a sport that didn't need fixing. But so how do you think this plays out? A lot of people are saying this also could just be a bargaining chip to try to get Champions League qualifiers changed a little bit.

So that the top teams always are in Champions League so they don't miss out on that money. Do you think this could actually happen? Or do you think this is a bargaining play and there'll be a ton of talks and eventually a super league won't happen? I think this could happen, blood, because when you check the levels,

Arsenal are owned by an American, Stan Kronke. Genius. Wanker. When I come back to, I've already put out hashtag find Kronke. I'm coming for you when I come back to America. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

Shake his hand because he got you into the super league? No, no, no, no. Even when you look at Liverpool, the Henrys, John Henry, American. You look at United, the Glacier as well. You look at the Glaciers. You're just naming teams that are all, like owners that are all enormously successful

in America. Yeah, businessmen. If I'm gonna fuck about America, blood. I'll give a fuck about America's sports, blood. I care about Arsenal Football Club, yeah. That's what I care about, blood. I've moved to America to make football cool, blood, yeah. I'm doing my job, you understand?

These guys need to do their fucking job, blood. I expect returns, yeah? I'm not getting my fucking returns, blood. I'm fucking fuming, blood, you understand? But then, like I said, Arsenal have an American owner. Man, you know I have an American owner. Liverpool have an American owner. Chelsea have a Russian owner,

but they are run by Bruce Buck, who is a fucking American as well, blood. Genius. You have fucking Joe Lewis, who runs Tottenham, he's a fucking American. Not only is a Tottenham owner makes him a prick, he's a fucking American as well, blood. And then you have the only team that in there,

who is not American, is Man City, who are owned by Arabs. Shout out to my Arab niggers, Arab money, but you understand, you and you, man, you can fuck your money as well, blood, you understand? So when you look at the whole, the whole just of it, and then you see who's on the board, Joe Glazer, fucking American blood, you understand?

It's you, man, blood. You might not try to come over here and ruin our team and turn our team into your dead team, you understand? We're not having none of that, blood. What it's called? We're not having none of that. Super. NBA, NBA is a business.

NFL is a business. Football is a sport, yeah? What about our, what a rant? Yeah, there is a difference, blood. Yeah, I've had enough of this shit, blood. Yeah, when I come back into basketball, niggers are gonna know that troops is back again, Bruce Boyd.

Back again, again. The time is over for, the game time is over, pleasure. I've got that wave up. I'm coming back, motherfuckers. It's very funny that like American sports owners are doing to European soccer. Basically what Meghan Markle did to your entire royal family.

Oh, no. We got Meghan Markle. We got Meghan Markle. RIP, RIP, Prince Philip. Sorry for your loss. I have to, I don't know about that, but RIP to Prince Philip, I don't throw the dead RIP to you. Same.

But big up Meghan Markle, that's my dog, Black Lives Matter. You already fucking know gang business. We got man like Harry. You get me? You could bun weed anytime, blood. I've got them candy packs on deck for you, my brother. All right, true. Get me.

How quickly would you become- Max B as well, blood. Don't forget that, blood. Three-man nigga, Max B, Harlem, we in the building. Max B, we're original Max B supporters. We have always been supporting Max B. Yeah. Come on, that's my man, baby.

Yeah, no, that's our guy. Mr. Portnoy is a big Max B fan, too. Yeah, we love Max B. Portnoy's never been Harlem, you mad, blood. No, Max B, no, no, you don't understand. We have a long history with Max B. So how quickly into Arsenal, like if they start to compete for a Super League title,

you're gonna be like, yeah, fuck yeah, Arsenal is the best. You're gonna very quickly hold the Super League trophy and put that in the trophy case with all the other ones that you have, right? Well, obviously if we're in it, then I wanna win it, isn't it? But I don't wanna go in it. But I don't wanna go in it.

Yeah, I don't wanna go in it. Yeah, but obviously if we're in it, if we're in it, then I wanna win it. But I don't wanna go in it. You get me? You have to, I think as such a public figure in the Arsenal community, I think you have to say that if Arsenal goes into the Super League,

you're not an Arsenal fan anymore. No, but it's, I can't, it's mad bro. Like I love that club. I follow them, there's a song, we all follow the Arsenal over and then see, you get me? So I'm gonna have to follow them to even, to the Super League.

The song actually goes, watch this now, the song actually goes, we all follow the Arsenal over and then see, and let's stop. But I'm gonna have to change it to, we all follow the Arsenal over and then see, and the Super League. Yeah.

I have to, it's like, what they're doing, this is the fuckery now, isn't it? This is the fuckery of being involved from a fan point of you with your club, who's one of the six teams that have been, who have come out, because Arsenal already announced it on their 12th, that they're one of the teams and they're going ahead with the proceedings. So for me, it's like catch 22,

because I don't agree with it, but I've supported this team all my life, but it's brought me some of the best memories of my fucking life, but I've cried tears of joy, I've cried tears of pain, I nearly fucking threw big cat through a window, like bro, like-

You named your kid Ashley Cole? Fuck yourself, but like it's, I'm emotionally attached to this team. It's like one of my children, bro. I can't like, I can't, it's mad. I can't just let them go in it. It's a fuck situation, isn't it? If they do it, which I don't know,

from my point of view, I think it's going to happen, Makar. Money talks and J.P. Morgan saying he's going to put six billion into this team, and he's saying that every team that even accepts the invitation is going to get 435 million. And even they're saying that if you win the Super League, you're going to get more money

than like, if you won the Premier League, the Champions League, FA Cup, any cup combined, times it by two, that's what you win if you win one Super League. And money makes the world go round, bro. You understand? Money, if you have money, you have the power, you understand?

So I'll say the worst, bro. Damn. So what's the future of the EPL going to be after the Super League gets formed? Swaz is coming up. Man, like you winning leagues, you're actually going to have fucking trophies in your life now,

normally all you do is lift your misses onto your fucking face and do it with your American business. Oh, no, that sounds awful. But now you can actually put a trophy. Sorry, we need too much pussy to win EPL titles. Yeah. Jamaica will say, you understand, when I dive in, you see me?

We dive away, you understand? Listen, I actually am happy we got you on because we have been trolling. Yeah, I know you have. I see your tweets, you wanker. It's clear that this sucks. It sucks for you guys. If you're a sports fan, like in this happened to anything

you cared about, it was fucking sucks. So I actually understand how stupid this is and how they got to stop it. How do we stop it then? Bro, I put out a tweet and said, like, do we protest? Do we go to the training ground? Do we go to the stadiums?

Everyone's on it, but because like, England's not open how America is, isn't it? Like even New York is at 50%. I heard that we can step out until midnight now. So it's open and gradually. London has literally just said that shops are open. So you can go to like Foot Locker and all of that now. So apparently, if you're seeing protesting and court,

you can get grabbed in it, you understand? If we do that free troops and emptying there, you get me. Well, you should probably hunger strike. We believe, like they know what they're doing, bro. They've dropped it at the right time, but Corona's here so you can't get out. There's no fans in stadiums, so fans can't protest at games. It's all, they're very smart when they've dropped it, bro.

It's very strategic, very strategic, because if you was at the games, if I was like, we got a game on Friday, bro. We had a game today. I would have probably, I'm in the country, so I would have been at the game, bro. 100%, I would have been at the game. You understand, home or away,

I would have been there if I'm in the country. So we would have had banners out there like, fuck you, man, rare tear, tear, fuck the Super League, Super League out, did-a-da-da, save the Premier League, save football. And now it's, you're in a catch-away too, because if you go on protests, you're gonna get arrested. That's gonna fuck up your record.

What's gonna go on then, blood? People got kids to feed, you understand? Have mortgages to pay. They're fucking bastards, blood. That's the word. They are fucking bastards, bro. Ripping the soul out of a sport that is the most popular sport in the fucking world, blood.

Like, batter aside, football is the biggest sport in the world, blood. You could go ask anybody in the world, do you know Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi? They'll say yes. 100% they'll say yes, blood. You could go to the smallest country in the world and you'll find a Cristiano Ronaldo jumper,

or Lionel Messi jersey. You will find it, blood. You won't go to every country and find a Tom Brady or find a LeBron. Like, the biggest thing you have is LeBron, but you won't go to certain countries and these men will not, they will not know LeBron. They will know Ronaldo.

They will know Zidane. They will know legends of this game. You're trying to break something that's been going for fucking years, blood. Years this thing's been going. And you push yourself that you can come over with your fucking billions and just ruin this thing. Football is for the working man.

It's for the poor man. If you're being totally brutally honest, blood. Football's a ghetto sport, blood. Football's the cheapest part, the cheapest item you could buy of sport, tennis racket and ball. You got, when you buy a cricket, you got to buy the cricket bat,

you got to buy the stumps. When you buy the baseball, you got to buy the baseball, the fucking, the baseball fucking bat, you got to buy the fucking helmet, you got to buy the ball, you got to buy the pads. Football, you literally buy, literally put your trainers on a ball and you're gone. You're gone.

Anyone can play that football. Football's a multilingual sport. Football brings cultures together. It's your fucking bastards, blood. Don't you, why is it you? Why, why is it you? I don't, I mean, like, these men that are not, you know, look, you in it, blood.

You know, look, you, look, you fucking trolls. But we are Super League fans, but yeah, not us. It's just, it's, it's, it's heartbreaking. Yeah. So it sucks. Is it, is it a possibility for there to be like an organized fan strike where you're like, listen, once the Super League starts,

we're not going to go to games and we're not going to watch it on TV. Is that even a possibility? And then you like threaten people that are watching on TV and you call them scabs. And you're like, you can't watch this game. Take away all the money from them. And PFT is right.

Like football is the, is the one, sorry, I just said football. Soccer is the one sport where- See, you're getting into it, now I'm not. You can get me in my feels a little, you got me in my feels a little, but soccer is the one sport where you see fans, like come together unlike any other sport.

So, I mean, could that happen? Bro, like the power of loving it and the power of unity blood. We need that now in it. You know what I'm saying? If the Super League starts everyone, that's the only way I could see it going tips up. Is everybody just says, yo fuck this,

man, it's supporting this. Man, it buying no tops. Man, it buying no kits. Man, it buying no season ticket renewal. None of that blood. Man, it watching the games. Man, it's gonna cancel the sky subscription, cancel the cable subscription,

cancel all of that shit blood. That's the only way that this team's gonna stop. If you support it, then they're just not gonna run with it. What if we do a GoFundMe for like literally every single team in professional soccer. And then they get money that they would have gotten. Are you just direct the money

to the teams that are joining the Super League? Do you think we could get $400 million per team? No fucking way, bro. You know what we should do? We should do a GoFundMe, and then we should use all that GoFundMe money and play the lottery, and then disperse the winnings.

That's smart. You might not want to. Oh, it's sorry that we have actual solutions to this problem. Last question, truth. How the fuck is that a solution? I think the only way out of this is just every JP Morgan bank in America gets robbed. I didn't say it.

I didn't say it. All right. Last question, troops. All right, everything aside, because you are very passionate. I'm happy we had you on. I agree, fuck the Super League. I'm even gonna do you a solid.

I'm gonna change my Twitter handle back. I was back again. I was Super League cat for about an hour. I'm gonna go back to Big Cat. But my last question is this. Just everything, let's throw everything out. Everything you said, we agree. It's fucked up.

It shouldn't happen. Just admit this. The name Super League is fucking sick. Nice shit, brother, because Super League, do you know why it's shit, yeah? Because you don't know about rugby, innit, blood? Yeah. The rugby league is called the Super League, bro.

I don't fuck with rugby, blood. Rugby's some posh man thing fam. I don't deal with them thing there, blood. Rugby's the queen sport, blood. I don't fuck with that, blood. That's fucking the man that played croquet and emptied there. Fuck all of that.

That's her majesty, innit? Nah, none of that, blood. That's them lot, blood. I'm on the other side, blood. You understand? I'm on the other side, dude, boy. You get me? I'm on the other side.

I'm not even allowed on that side of the fence, blood. You get me? Don't run me away, blood. You understand? I'm sorry that you can't tackle somebody. That's what I hear from you, troops, is you just grew up not using your arms on anything. And you're like, you know what?

I'll just break your leg with a two-foot. I'll just break your leg with a two-footed, blood. Simple. But seriously, Super League, the names, you can't get any Superer than the Super League. Nah, it's so American, blood. See what I'm saying? You fucking Yankee, man.

You just try to come over and just come out with your fucking, the European Super League. What kind of fucking bullshit name is that? Okay, all right. Super, dude. How about this? European Super League, presented by Coca-Cola. Look, you see, presented.

That's the beat. That's good. It's been done by McDonald's. Fucking dead fan. Yeah. Northrop Grumming presents the European Super League. No, I'm not. Fuck that, blood.

All right. Well, thank you for joining us. We know it's late in England right now. We're excited to see you next week. And we appreciate it. And we're officially anti-Super League. Yeah, fuck Super League, blood. Fuck Kronke as well, fuck Kronke.

Dude, you tell me. We get a hashtag going. You tell me. I'll fucking start. I'll tweet it on everything. Every tweet will have the hashtag. Hashtag find Kronke. No, he's a great American businessman.

I'm done with you. Yeah. I'm gonna leave. I'm gonna cancel the fucking stream, blood. All right, troops. We'll see you in a couple of days, all right? Nah, big up, man. All right, thanks, man.

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On Sunday Night Baseball while he's on the screen. Cause everyone knows you watch Sunday Night Baseball, not for the teams, but for Marlins. I don't even watch it, which is in Cleveland because you can't see the fans behind him. Correct, correct. Yeah, so Marlins Man is there. This is actually the biggest nature is healing moment

that I've had in a very long time. It's been Marlins Man out there. Marlins Man is out there. All right, hopefully he picks up. Let's give him a try. If he doesn't pick up, we'll do it again some other time, but let's do it. Marlins Man, pick up please.

What are we gonna have him do? I mean, it's a 10-run game. He's still there though. Also a lot of wind and just wanna shout out A-Rod personally because he announced tonight's game with a broken heart. Yeah. So I don't like to see you losers try to do that. Should we have him, should we make a hand sign

for fuck the Super League? Oh yeah. What is it? I think it's just the middle finger. He won't play, he won't do it, it's too classy. No, it is too classy. All right. The stool, the stool will be the fuck,

the Super League sign. Super League, yeah. Turn it, all right, Billy's still drunk. He just started fucking his fingers. He's doing the interlocking thing and then open it up. Watch this Billy, watch this, ready? Wind shield wipers, is that cool? You guys remember when this one was out

in the streets for a while? The, see the church, see the people. The, wait, I can't even. What are you doing? Dude, you haven't done this one. Are you trying to call him, Hank? This one. Can you do that?

Can you do this? Upside down, Billy, why don't you give us an animal fact? Oh no, it's like, give us an animal fact, might as well. Marlins man not picking up. Getting ducked by Marlins man is a pretty low point. Yeah, this sucks. That's a show. I need to check this phone multiple times.

Marlins are different than swordfish. No. How? Swordfish never won a title. It's true. How are they different, Billy? Actually, they might be exactly the same. Yeah, they could be.

But they could also not be. All right, here we go. Here's the call. Okay. Please pick up. We're watching him on TV right now. He's shit. He's got it.

You know what? He's out of practice. He's directly behind the ump, which is a terrible spot for Marlins man when people want to see him, us true fans. I've also noticed that he hasn't been on his phone as much as he used to be in the past. He used to just, he used to be like two cell phones.

Oh, he's looking. He just looked. He just looked. Pick up Marlins man. Come on. Pick up Marlins. Don't send us a voicemail. Hi.

Oh no. Thank you for calling. Push the star button to leave me a message right away. He's on his phone right now. He's looking at it right now. I'm watching Marlins man reject our call in real time. Roodle. It's your son Marlins man.

Ah, all right. Hang up. Oh, hey Marlins man. We're leaving a message. We're taping part of my take right now. It's sad that you didn't pick up, but we'll get you another time, dude. We love you.

Don't worry about texting. Yeah, don't worry about texting. Don't want to check in. Don't call us back. We'll call you. I'm sure we'll see you around. Yeah, but it's great to see you behind home plate. Feels like everything's back.

So, love you. Numbers. Give me an eight. 18. Give me an eight. 32. Hank. Hank.

36. Okay, this is big. What is that? 66. 62. Another loser. Cats don't know algebra. Wait, you gave us the Marlins in the...

Twofer. Swordfish. Twofer. Did you never listen to your animal facts? Have you been mailing it in like that? Oh, wow. I don't know, twofer. I think one was like elephants don't practice religion.

No, no, no. Elephants do. That was a good one. No elephants, no religion. And now he's just doing this. What? What's this? Cats don't know algebra.

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