Pardon My Take - NFL Draft With Peter Schrager, Stavros Halkias In Studio, NFL Draft Recap, Mel Kiper's meltdown, NBA/NHL Playoffs And Bill Belichick Might Be In A Conservatorship

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Crazy weekend of sports. NFL Draft recap including Shedeur Sanders slide and grading grades (00:00:00-00:43:27). NBA playoffs have been awesome with an all time Clippers/Nuggets game, Steph Curry continuing to ruin the Rockets franchise, the Lakers in trouble, Pistons getting screwed and more (00:43:27-01:15:55). We talk hockey and PFT went to Montreal Friday to watch Caps/Canadiens, the Avs even the series with a great sports moment from Landeskog and more (01:15:55-01:29:08). Who's back of the week including 100 humans vs a gorilla, Bill Belichick possibly being in a conservatorship (01:29:08-01:52:16). Peter Schrager joins the show to recap the biggest draft stories from the weekend, what happened to Shedeur, what teams really love their draft, and working with Mel Kiper for the first time (01:52:16-02:30:08). Stavros Halkias joins the show to talk about his comedy tour, rooting for teams, getting healthier this year and tons more. We finish with lottery balls (02:30:08-03:25:20).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Spend $5 or more on a horse to win the Derby, which is this weekend, for your shot at a piece of one million dollars only on DraftKings the crown is yours. Today is Monday April 28th and boys we've got a lot of sports we've got sports coming out of our ears we had the draft we have the playoffs we should probably start with the draft Mel Kuiper might have had the greatest meltdown of all time and I'm worried about Mel. I think he'll be okay. He was very passionate about Chador. He was disappointed to see every team team after team after team passing on Chador. Yes. But I did look up Mel Kuyper's

grades. Oh yeah. Draft Cleveland Browns, a plus, a plus, only a plus given up because they got Chador. What a steal. You got, you got second overall value in what, what round was it? It was the fourth round. Yeah. Incredible value by the Browns to pick up Sridhar there. It turns out Sridhar might not have been good enough to get drafted in the first round because I think no matter what the character things were any, any hesitancy teams had, if he can play football, he would have been drafted early. Yeah. It was, it was a wild draft because of Chador Sanders and watching the slide, which, uh, in retrospect, I think we, we were, we didn't think he was, we talked to McShay, we talked to Daniel Jeremiah. I don't think

we thought he was going to be a first rounder. We didn't think it was going to be a fourth rounder. I think if you had asked me in November, I would have said, yeah. Yeah. And hand up the reason why is because Dion has been very vocal about his son being a First round pick even going as far as to say like if I got drafted by the Browns I would pull an Eli Manning. Yeah play for the team unfortunate tweet on his part That was from 2018 has he deleted it yet? Yeah, I didn't I don't know that was from 2018 It was that that's kind of bullshit people were pulling that up. I'll say this. We're obviously biased that's kind of bullshit. People were pulling that up. I'll say this. We're obviously biased. Uh, bias is, is out in the open with Dion. Spin zone for Dion and the Sanders family. Dion Sanders

actually, uh, father of the year because he got his fourth round, uh, son, uh, mocked as a first rounder. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. You don't usually have that happen where a guy ends up going, uh, pick one 44 is mocked in a lot of mocks as a first-rounder. So credit to D on Oh fifth round. Sorry fifth round Why I once it gets past the fourth round? I just I kind of all the numbers blend together 144 fifth round To the Cleveland Browns who by the way had an incredible logo that looked like testicles from the right angle all weekend That was bizarre. It was our it was the dog bone that was bouncing up and down had an incredible logo that looked like testicles from the right angle all weekend. That was bizarre. It was the dog bone that was bouncing up and down,

but when you cut off the top of it, just looked like the draft pick was getting tea bagged. Yeah, just all weekend long. But yeah, so it was crazy. So we had obviously Cam Ward, I feel bad for Cam Ward because his being number one overall got completely hijacked by the Shador Sanders draft. Jack Walker from a couple years ago. Nobody ever talks about him. Yeah. Jackson Dart obviously went to the Giants with the 25th pick.

Tyler Schuck. I can never pronounce his name because everyone pronounces it differently. Schuck. McShea was pronouncing it Schuck. I'm going to go with McShea. Tyler Schuck went to the Saints with the 40th pick. And then we all kind of were like, Hey, this is probably going to happen at some point. And then Jalen Milrow went to the Seahawks with the 92nd pick. Shout out Jalen Milrow. He said after the draft that the Seahawks told him that he was the best quarterback in the draft as official meeting with the Seahawks. And then John Schneider in his press conference, a reporter asked him, he's like, no, I didn't say that. I don't think that actually. So shout out John Schneider. Very awkward moment.

Also shout out John Schneider because we got to get him on at some point. We met him at the combine a few years ago. Seems like a very cool dude. I don't know if you saw this. I think it was maybe after the first round a reporter asked How he'd handle an owner meddling in the draft and he said well, I work for the Washington Redskins for a year Yep, so he's he's been he was very honest about that. He's like I've been there I would know over and I would take it. Yeah, yes, he's the owner and he sides the checks. Yeah, so so Jalen Milro goes 90 seconds to seahawks Jalen millerow is an incredible athlete. You could be like hey the upside makes sense Jalen millerow struggles to throw the football at times and that's what a quarterback should do

Then dylan gabriel goes 94 to the cleveland browns. We got to actually I wonder what tony gross Or to the Cleveland Browns, we gotta actually, I wonder what Tony Grossi said, because remember he's the Browns, he's a Cleveland sports radio host who, I'm quoting him, so it's not me saying it, I'm quoting him, when they got Baker Mayfield, he said, we've got a fucking midget. Dillon Gabriel's shorter than Baker Mayfield,

so he probably was pissed, he was punching air. And then, so we're like, what the hell's going on? Friday night ends. Mel Kuyper continues to have a meltdown. And then Shador Sanders goes to 144 to the Browns who already drafted Dylan Gabriel. And now the Browns have a QB room of Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Deshaun Watson, Dylan Gabriel,

and Shador Sanders. I love that quarterback room. I do, and I think that Flacco might start week one. Oh, absolutely. And Flacco is a big underdog to do that too. I think he was like plus 750 last I checked. Yeah. So I like the quarterback room.

I like the strategy. If you don't have a quarterback, just accumulate all the quarterbacks and let it's like Highlander. There should be one that emerges. Yeah. From that group. And then, you know, you can go from there for it.

I gotta admit something. The most viral video of the weekend was the Shador Sanders prank call. Yes. I cannot bring myself to watch it because it just seems like the most cringy, awkward video. I know what happens in the video. I know what it's about. I know who did the prank call.

I know who received the prank call. I cannot bring myself to click play on it because that is the kind of shit that I do not want to see. I feel you. There's a video out there. I feel the exact same way about is it when you put the hole in Tiffany's wall? Nope. No, it's a video that came out this weekend too. Oh, what video is that? No, just keep talking about. No, no. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. Maybe they'll come up and who's back. I know what he's talking about. Yeah. I watched it. I watched it for, for both of us. It was, it was, it was definitely cringe worthy apparently. So we find out later on for people who are maybe living under a rock, someone called how it works is all these guys have their numbers in a database with

the NFL. Shador Sanders got a new phone just for this situation. So all the, all the teams have all the phone numbers for, so they can call all these prospects. Per mat la floor. Per mat la floor. So the, uh, the database is there. Shador Sanders gets a new phone. So it's not even his regular phone. He has a draft phone. He's got a draft phone. He gets prank called. Someone says, Hey, I'm Mickey Loomis from the Saints. You know, I know you've been waiting a long time. And then she doors like, thank you so much. I can't wait for this. And then the kid goes, you're going to have to wait a little longer and then hangs up. So, uh, and pranks him. I'm glad I didn't watch it. Yeah, we find out Today that it was Jeff Ulbrich

Yeah point to memes. This is memes former head coach Falcon He's a fountain is memes former head coach Jeff Ulbrich's son was the prank caller Jack's Jack's Ulbrich because apparently he found the database on his dad's iPad and then took the number and then was stupid enough to be in a video of them prank calling. So he wasn't the one that was on the phone. No, he was the one that was in the background, sitting next to the managing the database. Correct. So he, but he, but he got the number and they also prank called Tyler Warren, right?

Correct. They think it was the same, same kid kid who prank called Tyler Warren when Tyler Warren, they prank called him at seven saying the Jets were going to pick him. And I heard somebody prank called Cooper DeGene last year. Yes, someone prank called Cooper DeGene last year. Listen, Jeff Ulbrich, it was a terrible thing to do. Jax Ulbrich, I do not want. I don't, I don't wish to be him right now. No, it's Jeff Ulbrich is going to raise hell. Well, so he, uh, he issued an apology and the internet was split on the apology. Half the internet thought

it was a very classy move. Well done. Good kid made a mistake. He's going to learn from it. The other half of the internet thought, uh, this kid should be run over with a steam roller. Yeah. So embrace debate. I actually thought it was a decent apology. A really dumb move. He should have listed Mel Kuyper in the apology. That's the only issue I had with it. If you're going to apologize to Shador and his family and his friends, you should also say, and to Mel Kuyper, I apologize. This was a very mean thing I did to you. Memes, I have a question for you. Do you think there's a chance that Jax Ulbricht and Brick Johnson have ever been in a room together? Because I would love to see that too. Oh, yeah, for sure. And they've definitely

made some GM moves and they've definitely been in a group chat with Diana Rossini just leaking information. Oh, you think that you think Brick is leaking information? Yeah, Bricks don't leak, buddy. Baby Brick, baby Brick least know, Brickley. I think there's a good chance that Jacks and brick have been in the same madden lobby together online and The transcript of that might be something interesting take a look at I think Jacks is from New Jersey So I think that brick and Jacks have probably been together. I would love to see those two minds Going at it. Yeah, I would love to see that but that's the Atlanta Falcons problem now Yeah, it does kind of suck for Jeff Ulbrick right now Ah, yeah credit to him for however this went down be like, yeah, it was my son. Well, I

Don't know if it was I don't know if he turned in his son. His son was literally on the video Yeah, it was almost instant that everyone's like hey That's Jeff Ulbrick. So that's Jack's. Yes, Jack's Jack's Ulbrick who plays I think d3 football running back in so wasn wasn't even Ole Miss. Ole Miss got dragged through it. Yeah. Everyone was like, Oh, Ole Miss frat bros. Yeah. So Jack's, I think at minimum he should apologize to Mel and he should also get in the ring with Chidor. I'd agree. Three minutes in the ring with Chidor and then they can move on. I'd agree. We would never prank call anyone. Never. Ever. Never. Definitely not Lenny Dykstra. Nope. Definitely not Darren Revelle. Nope. And if we did, we would never apologize for it. Yep. And that's posted or post online for cloud post it. Yeah.

Should we call Darren? It's pretty late. We draft Aaron. Max is someone who's maybe been a prank called recently. How does it feel bad? Okay. So there's your statement. You just actually just put, uh, how does it feel bad? And then say max Delente, she knew her Sanders. Both of them feel bad. Uh, okay. So can we actually play the Mel Kiper just crash out to 15 seconds? This was so good. I loved watching Mel. He was, he was visibly upset. Yeah. I've never seen Reese Davis crack. Reese Davis had to crack and be like, dude, shut up. Yeah. Reese Davis's job is to stone face, be a traffic cop, move it along. And he was like, Mel, come on, come on buddy, hold it together.

Yeah. I sent it to Max. Max, I sent you the 15 second clip. I DM'd it to you. There you go. It's that one. It's 15 seconds of Mel just, he's just in a bad spot. Look how angry he looks. NFL has been clueless for 50 years when it comes to evaluating quarterback. Clueless. No idea what they're doing in terms of evaluating quarterback. That's proof. There's proof of that. How many times? We know exactly what we're talking about with quarterback. They don't. And it was very awkward. You know, who does know is Mel Kuyper. So Jimmy Claussen is just about to break through. I would agree that there have been some misses, but there have also been a shitload of hits. Yeah. If you look at who's drafting the first round

overall, they're usually pretty good quarterbacks. It was such a great, it was such great entertainment because it was Mel Kuyper just not accepting the fact that Shadr or Sanders probably wasn't good enough to be a first rounder. And then as soon as the slide happens, then all the other stuff comes in into play because I am a big believer, especially in the NFL. If you're good enough, people will, teams will draft whoever as long as it helps them win. So Mel got it wrong. There was a first rounder. I think once he slipped out of the first round teams were like, well, if he's going to be a backup,

we don't probably want to have everything that comes with it. So looking back on it at the time, I would say definitely last year during college football season I thought that should or would be a first-round pick. Yeah besides Dion Was anybody else saying that? Well, I mean the mock drafters the mock drafters. Yeah, they going off of any Talent evaluators besides just them watching on screen like anybody in the biz because I know Dion said that he would be a top five Pick yeah, he did but he meant rounds. He meant round. Dion was correct again. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it

was, I think it's going to end up where if he's good, he's going to play. And if he's great, he'll end up making money just like anybody. They're not going to, they're not going to give a shit that he's Dion Sanders son. And they're not going to hold that against him. If he's good enough, he'll be their quarterback. It probably will be a good thing for him in terms of humble pie. Yeah. Because some of the reports, I mean the, the pro day, where it was like, I think they spent a hundred thousand dollars on the pro day, uh, in terms of like a red carpet and like a VIP section,

retired his number. He had retired his number. So I, I do think that this might help humble and it could be good for sure. Sanders in the long run, silver lining of all this. You want to go back to college. I, so Florio came from the clouds with some great fan fiction that actually turned out to be kind of true. Florio wrote an article on Friday and essentially was like, he should pull out of the draft, go back to college, make more money. Now, now that he's in these third, fourth, fifth rounds, he would have made more money in NIL this year in college than probably his entire rookie contract because it falls off a cliff

in terms of guaranteed money, all that stuff. And he, for real basically was like it, it's never been done because if you go to the combine usually are not able to get back into college football, but where NC double is now is the antitrust laws and everything that's going on. They would be able to sue and probably win that lawsuit. The only problem with that is would you would you accept making more money to go back and have to go to school? I don't think he's I don't think they're going to school. I don't think he's, I don't think they're

going to school. You don't think Dion makes them go to school? Well, that was the other part of Fleur's thing. He said he should transfer somewhere else. Oh, I love that. Coach and get coached by someone else. And prove it to the world. And prove to the world. Okay. Because there was the other Quinn yours was the other one where Quinn years had a choice. He was offered. I, the report was, you know, six, $ million dollar NIL offer, I think from a Big Ten school, and he decided to go to the draft and he got drafted what, seventh round? Seventh round. Did you think it had anything to do with the crazy room he was sitting in the entire draft?

Who? Quinn Ubers. Oh. Where he had- Dude, that's just hunting. I think he had like 50 dead animals behind him, just full bodies. It was a lovely room with death Real quick embrace debate. You guys saw the thing going around the internet a hundred people taking down a gorilla I was gonna be my my who's back. I will save it. Let's save it. All right, let's save it

He's back for let's save it. He did say with it's for PFT. We should forget so you can have it Okay, I appreciate that. You're a nice guy I think that the real star of the whole Shadour saga actually ended up being Shiloh. Yeah. Shiloh's a good dude. Shiloh's a great hype man, just there with his boy the whole time, trying to put a smile on his face. Yeah.

And probably the most stressful weekend of his life. Like there could have been times where he could have gotten real negative, started being woe is me. Shiloh was just an all-time vibes guy. I love the fact that the Bucks got him. That's good. But yeah, I didn't really know that much about Shiloh until now. Turns out I love the guy. Yeah. So I don't know what the Browns are going to do. It's very Browns. Someday we'll probably get one of those athletic reports where they say, hey,

here's what happened in the 2025 Browns war room. And I'm just taking a guess here. But I think that maybe they drafted Dylan Gabriel so that Jimmy Haslem couldn't be like, Hey, you have to draft Shadr or Sanders. And then when it got to the fifth round, Jimmy Haslem still was like, Hey, no, you still have to draft your Sanders. And the clip is Dylan Gabriel one was kind of out of left field. And in the clip that I saw, uh, Jim and head coach didn't look exactly pumped when they did that. And worse to fancy guys. Worse to fancy guys. Yeah. But that would be one of the franchises he would look at and be like, that is an owner pick. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, we'll see what happens. But

I think if I had to guess, it feels like it's going to be a competition between It's going to be T-Bow mania. Well, it's going to be in the same situation. He's just not going to play, but it's going to be all anyone talks about. I think it won't be as bad as T-Bow mania just because it will be. So I'm guessing here. I think they'll have Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett in a QB competition for QB one. I think whoever loses that competition will get traded to a team that needs a QB Because the injuries or whatever during training camp I think Dylan Gabriel will be the second quarterback and I think she door will be the emergency third string

So it's hard to be a lot of the high what if he's not better in camp? But if he's not even dressing I think that does diminish a little of the height it does But then there will be questions about why isn't this guy dressing? Yeah, probably. Preseason is everything. Preseason will be everything. Like if he throws a nice touchdown pass in preseason, they're fucked. Well, let me ask this. Who would you, who would you rather have as your emergency third string quarterback? Chador or DTR? That's easy. Chador. DTR is not a quarter. Yeah. So I feel like they've, they've upgraded. Eagles. Is Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel, I feel like is going to be like one of those career backup. Well,

actually, he's our guy, right? Didn't do no Jeremiah give it to us. He Mr. PMT is Mr. PMT. So we got a root for him. Let's go Dill. Yeah. I think he's I mean, he's, he's a good quarterback. He's just short and doesn't have like the strongest arm Did you see this fun fact about what the Bucks did so they drafted Tez Johnson from Oregon small guy Yeah, smallest in NFL history 150 bonus brother Bonix's brother. No, he is Tez Johnson's. Yeah, he's he Bo Nix his family Adopted him. Oh, that's cool. Yeah.

All right. Very cool. So he's 154 pounds, one of the lightest in NFL history. And then as an undrafted free agent, they signed Des Watson from Florida, who weighs 464 pounds. I like that. The heaviest player in NFL history. I like that.

The difference between those two guys, 310 pounds. I like that. Difference in weight. I'm rooting for Dez Watson He's a big boy He had me ever since he had that they gave him a carry in the bowl game and he had one yard rushing Yeah, 464 dude falling forward four yard. I hope he does well because he's talking about how he needs to like play his way into Shape he's got a food kind of addiction that he's trying to get over

I think I hope that they can they can help him out with that because I want to see big Dez playing in the NFL. The other one I want to see along those same lines. Uh, wait, wait, Desmond Watson went to the box. Yeah. Yeah. They both get next to Vita. V. Yeah. That will be incredible. That would be an incredible. That is like a, a goal line stop package. You want to know how to stop the tush push. Yeah. Yeah. I think the bucks just did. He just, they just did. No, he's, he's so awesome. When it, whenever I would see him on Florida, he would just, he just leans on people. Yeah. His numbers get erased because his Jersey just scrunches up. He's awesome. My other favorite story was after the draft, uh, Abdul Carter, he hit up LT. Yeah. And he asked LT for permission

to wear number 56 and LT said, no, yep. You may not wear number 56. You can make your own way in your own number. I'm on LT side here. Absolutely. Maybe the greatest defensive player of all time. It's like him. Reggie White. But for for somebody to ask who hasn't played it down in the NFL, can I have the most important number in your franchise's history, please? Yep. No, you got to stand. You gotta stand your ground. Yeah. Say no to that shit. Yep. Maybe if you have, if you make like six all pro teams in a row, I'll consider it. Yeah, no, I agree. You don't give up your number. No, it's tired. What are you going to say, max? You are 11 at Penn state. Like you could look at it that way that he's already done this before and Worn like a legacy number and lived up to it. So maybe he Everyone were 11 at Penn State though. I Mean every every play every no, but like Michael Parsons of our Arrington. Yeah, it's like the Dallas Cowboys 88

But it's oh, yes, I retired. Yeah, no, but I'm just yeah. Yeah Yeah, you can't be a legacy vampire go make your own way. Also I speaking of numbers I was worried about Matthew golden the Packers first-round pick but he he picked number 22 for a wide receiver Yuck. Yeah, that's tough. So bad. That is so bad That's maybe the worst you could pick for a wide receiver. They got to put the numbers back to old school I think I don't like this shit 22 is terrible 28 real bad 29 it's a running back. Yeah, well, so it's 22. Yeah, it's crazy But 22 is not even a good running back 20 at least a good running 25 is a good running back

Yeah, but 22 is a nothing 23. I don't even got that Jordan. So it's okay. Yeah. To embrace debate. I meant to bring this up on Friday, but uh, this was from Ryan Fitzpatrick's Twitter replies. Uh, after Zach Wilson signed with the zero, he said it might be silly perception. This was like in the replies. He said it might be silly, but perception matters in this business. And a QB trying to resurrect his career wearing number zero doesn't scream serious QB. I agree. Absolutely true.

It screams like debate to me. Brace screams like you're just fucking around young punk. Yeah, it's a young punk number. No one believes in me. Not even you know, Jason Tatum or zero different basketball so different. Also what we're gonna say Max, you like the number zero? No, I was just itching itching my nose. Yeah, by the're gonna say Max, you like the number zero? No, I was just itching, itching my nose. Yeah, by the way, the boots smells bad. What they're doing in there. We got we got we got

problems. Memes dress like Luca today. I don't know what's going on. Luca other other stories I liked. Did you guys see that? Lions six round draft pick Ahmad Hassan at nine on the phone with Dan Campbell said I will die on the field for you coach. I think that's the one guy you can't say that to because he'll just be like, okay, great. Now I have now I have my week one motivational speech. Who was the guy that the Cardinals drafted the linebacker like three years ago and on on the call that he made he was like let's fucking kill everybody Yeah, I'm gonna kill everyone. I'm gonna die on the field

I think I think Dan Campbell respects that but he's gonna make him do it Dan Campbell might force people like if you get a call from me on draft day That means I'm about to pick you if the the code word is I will die on the field for you also too soon Because I think the only person who's ever died on an NFL team was that Lions player in the 60s. I was going to say prayers for Demar. Yeah, prayers for Demar. But I'm pretty sure that was a don't fact check. Well, fact check me.

Lions player died on the field. I'm almost positive that was the only death on the field in the NFL. So too soon, bro. How could you do that? We also, did you guys see Jackson Dart said that, uh, out of anyone he wants to train with it's Jamis Winston. This was before he was drafted. Say be a great teammate. That's all that's all that synergy. What, what is he going to be able to beat Jamis out with that mentality though? I don't know.

This is extremely, this is, this is a Extreme peak behind the curtain of a non football guy But the clip of of Gruden and Jackson Dart was going extremely viral Yes, and I didn't under it was seem like people were making fun of Jackson Dart Yeah Because he doesn't have but I didn't fully understand why like it didn't seem like that bad of a clip We don't teach the kids hard counts anymore. Oh the yeah the clap Yeah, so his snap count in college was just this you want to play the clip That's just up tempo offense. That's it's rinky dinkum. Yes, by the way, I was right

It was Chuck Hayes in 1971 died on an NFL team on the NFL field for the Detroit Lions. So officially too soon We're done clapping I see I see this guy. guy. Go ahead. You ready? Yeah. Clap. No, I want to hear the snap count. Yeah. Clap. Really?

Every time? Every time. Do you have like a dummy clap or anything? Yeah, we call it purple. What's that? Clap. Clap. For three years you've been clapping. I think I

could do that. Let me hear it. No, he likes hard count. I like how their dummy club has just clapped twice. Yeah. Yeah. Why do you need a caller? What else? For the draft? Oh, I want to say when we give this speech every year, but the draft grades are so funny because you can go, depending on your team, you can go and find a great draft grade for your team or bad draft grade for your team. We always bring up the 2012 Seahawks draft class from Bleach Report graded a D. That was the draft class that got Bruce Irvin.

Oh, they gave him an F. Oh, they give it F. Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson, Robert Turbin, and Jeremy Lane. And they gave him an F. I also found a very funny tweet that basically sums up the entire trying to grade how the draft went for your team. This is from ZWK football. Based on the consensus value of the picks they made Atlanta had one of the best drafts and the LA Rams had one of the worst Including value gained slash loss from trades the Rams had one of the best drafts and Atlanta had one of the worst Okay

So so there you go what I do love though about the draft grades is that the draft grades are issued by people Evaluating teams on how they picked According to what the person who's writing the draft grades has said they they would have done even if it's not like it's saying how smart are you as smart as I am right perfectly as smart as I am right then I will give you an A and even if it's someone trading grading the drafts that didn't have a mock draft themselves they're just grading it on what other people thought the draft was gonna have how other people thought the draft was gonna write but yeah I I don't know do you guys did you guys like

your draft I thought the Bears probably should have gotten a running back got sniped a few times maybe should have gotten more defensive line but I do like Luther Burden I was a little bit confused with the commander's draft class I like the first pick that we had yeah guy from Oregon he's big that's my analysis he's very athletic oh he used to play running back. I forgot to tell you, Nate Tice, our friend who we're going to have on in football season, his dad, Mike Tice, he had his dad, uh, great all the offensive linemen for his podcast and Mike Tice did have your guys, his favorite, uh, outside, uh, you know, tackle.

I love that. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. I love that a lot. I also like Trey Amos. Mincy texted me, he's a great player. Okay. So that's my analysis of that one. And then we got a really fast wide receiver. We got what I've heard to be a great value running back.

He didn't play last year because he was transferring. There was a whole thing about whether or not he used up his red shirt because when he was a freshman There was a controversy about some other player taking his jersey number and then playing in games using his jersey So those stats got wrongly attributed to the wrong guy. Did you go? No, this was at I think was an HBCU I think it was in the swag, but then so they ruled that he couldn't play last year and There's a bunch of people who are like balls deep in the draft that are saying that this could be one of the best running back selections that you can make. We got them in the six.

So, okay. People were saying Trayvon Henderson was the steal of the draft. Yeah. That was the, if you saw, I thought a bear's fans were mad at me. I've got a lot of people being like, fuck you. The bears should have gotten a running back. They didn't. Well, they did late. They got the kid from Rutgers like fuck you the Bears should have gotten a running back They didn't it well they did late They got the kid from Rutgers

But you could see how it fell they got sniped like three different times where there was a run on running backs right before their pick So that part sucked but the part that confused me was that we didn't get an edge rusher at all That was kind of same with the bear. It was kind of puzzling because we lost a lot of production and we thought that we would fill it with either a free agent or At the very least in the draft, but I'm just gonna trust Dan Quinn. Yeah, I love I love the Patriots draft I would die for Mike variable. I'm so excited for this year. You got all the way into the draft. I Just just people telling me that Trayvon he was the steal the draft and then we drafted a wide receiver And they had a highlight of him just burning Travis Hunter who oh number two pick in the jail change of the game How'd you guys like your draft?

How he did it again, oh nice. That's just the thing that every time the Eagles would pick it You just go on Twitter and everyone just says how he did it again. Yeah, awesome. What about you memes? I Like her draft. There's one question. We're saying everyone likes didn't drafted defensive tackle though Yeah, so not not great because people are saying this was like a generational defensive line defensive tackle draft That's kind of how I feel with the running backs in the Bears Like how do we not get draft players that ended in in B? We did we got we got the fastest linebacker ever from Maryland. Actually, our good friend Tom Frinelli thinks

that maybe we drafted him to be the running back. Gotcha. Even though he doesn't play running back because he's so fast. I thought we got the fastest linebacker in the draft. Maybe, maybe we both did. Fast linebackers. Yeah, we got the most athletic linebacker.

I think we did. No, is he as fast? Ruben Hippolite, junior. He definitely got the most athletic linebacker. I think we did know it is he as fast Ruben Hippolyte Junior he definitely got the most athletic second. I don't know if that's true Jahaw Campbell definitely definitely was oh, we're not talking about first round, but it's linebacker. Okay. Well, that's cheating I also think we were gonna draft should err I Think so. I I like how you say she'd her. Sure. She should her. Yeah. They asked how he rose man after the draft if he was if because the Browns picked them the Eagles were the very next pick and they asked him after if he was going to draft Shador with the next

pick and then he was like we're not talking about people we didn't draft. We're only worried about the people that we did. Oh but he didn't answer the question. How fast was your guy's linebacker. I just read that he was the fastest in the draft. Well, this is 40 time. I don't have it in front of me. My linebacker was 4.42. So maybe not the fast, but that's pretty fucking fast. Okay. That's not, I think ours was four or five. Ooh, this guy was a six year senior and team captain captain. Oh You better be if you love to see They're long enough Internet's also gone soft because uh, Patriots drafted Kobe minor with oh so funny tweeted a Minor. Yeah. Yeah, and they had a big they deleted it deleting it. That's great. Why would you delete it?

You know how you know still once once the higher-ups are calling me like what is this? Yeah one person I don't understand how this works Alright, well you look up your guys speed Was your was your guys name? Kind Medrano Kane is he sounds fast Kane Medrano. He sounds fast UCLA big He sounds really fast. Let's see Washington commanders 44446 is what I'm looking at right now. That is not as fast as my guy

Sorry Looks like I got the fastest It said fastest linebacker in the draft four four six But I my guy went four four two So the AI is lying. I'm seeing game speed right now. I got a guy, I got my guy catching a guy who runs a four four from behind. This is some good fucking linebacker. Here we go. There's a YouTube video Washington gets athletic freak in all caps. So, so our good friend Tom for Nellie, he there's a site called called relative athletic score where it has you ranked in your position groups

You see this right here 50. So this is him as a linebacker and then this is him as a running back He would basically be like a freak in all the running back. I'm seeing article right now Medrano ran a four point four six second 40 yard dash making him the fastest linebacker at this year's combine I mean, I'm seeing the Rubin Hippolyte the second ran a four four two. Was that at the combine or pro day? What's your guy's relative athletic score on your guys? It's not great on the linebacker, but it's great if he was a running back. Well, my guy's 9.88 on the relative athletic score. He comps out as Saquon Barkley if he was a running back. It's pretty good. Oh, all right. Well, I mean, yeah, it might be, it might, might've been his pro day. I got a 9.83. Athletic score.

What was yours, Max? Nine, nine point eight eight. Sorry about it. Yeah. Nine point. What was your, what was your 40 yard dash was what. Nine point what. I'm just saying his score his score was a nine point eight eight minus nine point. Oh no it's bad actually. Well it's eight point two two but it's a nine point two is a running back. So I'll start it because I said that I think that bears might draft a linebacker that's going to be a running back for Tom Ford. He ran a four four two at his pro day. So shorter shorter hash marks. Well you had the fastest at the combine. All right. Any other draft things. They're all all the draft grades. I basically came to the conclusion this weekend too. Like the only way that you can have a steal of the draft is you just

have to draft a guy who's got problems. Like Mike Green to the Ravens, everyone's like steal the drafts. Like, well, he's been accused for some shit. So that's why he was the steal the draft. Oh, there was another big moment on Thursday. I don't think we could talk about it on the show, but we had foretold it. They did the draft. They did the NFL schedule release date release dates. So on Thursday they unveiled it the NFL schedule will be released on Wednesday May 14th so we have an official date on that yet I love I just love the release date release date yeah pageantry of it all it feels

great feels great uh oh I had two last things one I loved the Saints pick of Quincy Riley because they had his superlatives up there and it was twitchy will gamble excellent competitiveness. So it sounds like basically me every Sunday when I drink too much coffee, just ready to gamble. And then here's one that want to feel old PFT. This came from a Mikey sand, Sandra Strill. I don't think it's actually the one. Yeah, I saw that one field Tyler Shuck will officially be the last person drafted at the NFL born in the 1990s. Okay.

That does make me feel old. Yeah. Now I, I don't know if that could be official because I'm sure there's an old, like what about me? Yeah. There's an old player in college football right now that could maybe have like an incredible eighth year and, and, and get drafted. But as of right now, what if I just like get in the gym hard develop the leg

just work on my kicking game and Also, maybe enter the make-a-wish program and then at some point Maybe I'll be drafted in the seventh round and I will be the last one. Yeah You know what the real want to feel old moments gonna be when? Cromartie jr. Retires that is gonna make me feel old as fuck. Yeah or Santa Samuel jr Yeah Yeah or Santa Samuel jr. Yeah, or Frank Gore jr. Mm-hmm. Yeah there's gonna be some of those. Yeah when you see there when the juniors start to see their whole career and their dad's whole career uh yeah overall good draft though should or should or made everything

interesting all the way till Saturday he did like I know I was watching on Saturday I've been like this has to happen eventually. I'm never gonna watch that prank call It in the one actually, you know I don't know if they might have gotten the original version was very glitchy because it was ripped from a twitch stream That was glitchy so that that made it not as bad. Mm-hmm But then I think they got a cleaner version that was was bad. It was tough to watch very tough to watch He'll be okay. It was he'll be fine. And if he's not he'll still be fine Yeah, he's good. If he's not good in the NFL, he'll still be fine. He's gonna be okay. He'll be fine

the the draft party room with the legendary and everything that in retrospect Was that the worst draft party ever? That was the worst draft party ever. That was the worst draft party. Well, except for Shiloh. It was Shiloh didn't really have a draft party. He just was at Shedorks. Yeah, but he made it so much more fun

than it would have been. Yeah. It was funny when he said, yeah, I kind of fired my dad as my agent because he hasn't been doing a good job. So hired an agent. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he did have a good sense of humor. That

quote when he said, yeah, he's like, if they're going to make him wait, what are they going to do to me? Yeah. Oh, we got to, we got to mention the Jaguars GM, which we mentioned on Thursday night, but then he did, he doubled down. Yeah. The press conference and all time just chill out, man. Uh, here. Oh, I disagree. I he's crazy. I liked it though Yeah, this that he did a great job of just just gassing up his guy. But here's the problem James Gladstone Seems like a really nice guy. He's 34 years old. You don't it does feel like he's trying a little too hard To be something that he maybe isn't yet, but I'm thinking maybe he is maybe he is this visionary All right. Here's James Gladstone the Jag Jaguars GM, talking about Travis Hunter's introductory

press conference. So as we sit here, Travis Hunter is a Jacksonville Jaguar and really what comes to mind for me, right? Thinking about the sport of football. I don't like how he says right. The power of the game itself, right? It's capacity. Yeah, the rights. To game itself, right? It's capacity to ignite belief, right? Belief in ourselves,

belief in others, right? Belief in achieving. Yeah, there's too many rights. I didn't hear the rights earlier. Impossible. Travis Hunter, he embodies belief, right? He's a rare person. He's a rare player, but he's also a reminder that the boundaries of the game of football were built to be challenged. I kind of like it. And so the decision to select him was actually a statement, a statement for how we plan to move no pressure on this isn't just draft. We want him to be nothing more than him. when he is he elevates

his space around. No, no. All right. So no, no. That ending, Max, that was Kamala speaking. No, no. When he elevates forward, no. We have to move past.

But what he's saying about Travis is like, but we didn't know that humans were capable of doing this. Travis has heard his whole life. This is impossible to do. And he's like, I don't give a fuck. I like everything about this speech except for the rights. When he throws in all those rights and he nods his head. That's it. That's a trick. He's a trick on you. I think bro just took a little too much vibe dance. That's all. I think this is good. I loved it. I,

that had me ready to believe in the Jags. Like this isn't about football anymore. It's not bigger than football. It's about life This is about the universe the belief in people This is about the possibilities that humans have inside them If you don't listen to the voice telling you no play back the last 10 seconds Tell me that's not that's a Kamala Harris campaign slogan This sounds like a politician was actually a statement a statement for how we plan to move who we are and we want him To be nothing more than him Yeah, because when he is he elevates the space around that makes sense to me

I gotta admit that makes sense. I agree. You could just be like he's really fucking good at football What he's saying is like we're losers But with this guy around he has the potential to make us not awesome delivery. Yeah This guy around, he has the potential to make us nuts. That was an awesome delivery. Yeah, listen to this. His timing was flawless. I'm in on this guy. If I ever have to get introduced at any big occasion,

I want this guy next to me grabbing the mic and being like, before PFT gets out here, I just want to say a few things about him. This guy is the ultimate, ultimate bro. Like this guy. Yeah. Right? The right stuff does feel a little slimy. Right. It's like this guy. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. The right stuff does feel a little slimy.

Right. It's like corporate speak. Also, he could just be simply being like a perfect shield for Liam Cohn because when he starts going, you're like, that other guy seems fine now. I was waiting for him to try Duvall. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. I mean, Travis Hunter is that good. So maybe he's, he's right it. All right any other draft things drafts is complete That means football is getting close Feels good. May 14th our next football. Mm-hmm where we get to football schedules I do like when they they show the behind-the-scenes phone calls and most of them are just like pretty boring Yeah, it's like the GM being like it would really like you man

How would you like to be an Oakland Raider and like the GM being like, Hey, we'd really like you, man. How would you like to be an Oakland Raider? And then the player being like, yeah, yeah, I'd like that very much coach. And then it's like goosebumps as the title for it's a pretty, pretty normal call. Yeah. But you can also, it's, it also, there is an awkwardness when they, uh, when they'll pass it to like six different people. Yeah. Like, all right, we're going to get you on now with your, with the president of football ops. All right. Now it's the GM GM now. We got your position coaches. Yeah, here's the owner wants to talk to you the owner Yeah, just passing the phone along. Mm-hmm. Yeah, everyone. Just say hey, man, you ready to get going It's like I you ready to get out here. Yeah, I'd really like to get back to my party crack a beer and get my dick sucked Yeah, you ready to get going

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and use promo code PMT for 20% off your orders of $25 or more. Order by April 29th to guarantee delivery by Mother's Day. Sip with purpose all summer long with the Ms. Peach's cold brew now at Stelbluecoffee.com. Okay, playoffs boys. Let me just say this. I know there's a certain sect of the internet, our audience, that might be like NBA boring. These NBA playoffs have been incredible. Outside of the Cavs, Heat, and the Thunder, Grizzlies, every series has had a moment, and every series has had some bad blood and felt awesome to watch. We had a great weekend to play off basketball. Uh, where do we want to start? Let's start on Saturday. Yeah, let's start on Saturday. Let's you know what? Let's just get, uh, no,

let's not start start on Saturday. Why? Cause Celtics lost on Friday. I'm sorry. It's Sunday dude. Oh, I mean you can't forget about Friday. PFT. Come on. You're kind of what? Don't bring me into this. Like'm a hank hater You see that you see what I do right here. It's Sunday. All right, what would you like on Friday? We just I hated that game was on Friday that hated that max brings up a good point three This the mighty Celtics do not look like the mighty self. They look very well know Max here's the Team and I said before the series that they matched up bad for the Celtics. This does hurt your under two and a half losses, right? But the problem Max is is that they incorrect

so much time has passed to erase that with a win today. Say it again. So much time has passed that they managed to erase that with a win today. Yeah. Still like a tight game. It's the playoffs. The Magic are good. I never overlooked this Magic team. They got some good players. They can't shoot three. You said two and a half total losses.

What do you mean you never overlooked this Magic team? They're both to the Magic. Yeah. Hank's not wrong yet. If the Magic can get some shooters, they could win the Eastern Conference in the future. Yeah. Paolo and Franz are awesome. They can't shoot. Yeah. It's actually like, I think, I think my lucky star is every game. Just being like, well, if, if the ball's not in Palo or his hands, they're not going to score. So are you, are you at all nervous about the future? The Magic Europe three one, you're going to win game five. You're going to, we're banged up. So those are banged up and the magic, magic magic had been mucking it up. As they've said, they will bang you up more. Brown dislocated his finger. Got a hurt knee.

Tatum's got a hurt wrist. Drew all designed plan. Why is true holiday not putting he's been, he was injured at the end of the year too. Oh, hamstring. Chris steps has a vagina on his forehead. So we're banged up. Uh, but I feel, I feel good. Okay. Ah, if, if we can, we'll get to up, but I feel good. Okay. We'll get to Sunday, but if like... Well, let's do PMT time caps.

They just do the thing where they just give the games to other teams, like we might be in trouble. Let's go back in time real quick, all the way back to Friday night. How did you feel on Friday night? Friday night, it was, we were missing our threes, not playing well, couple of missed calls here and there but it was a game we should have won. I didn't feel great about it. Okay.

So there Max are you good with that Friday night? Yeah that's fine. I do when you when we do when there is a Friday Sunday game and I feel like the Sunday game is, you erased your sadness. You're back. Yeah. The Thunder Grizzlies was just credit to us. We said we're not going to talk about the Thunder until the next round and we don't have to because they are in the next round. They're the first team to switch their ticket to the next round. Also Cavs Heat, that's just over. Just get it out of my face. Let's move on. There was one each one in the Eastern Conference one in the Western Conference just don't even care Just fucking go to the next was the one seats. Ah The Nuggets Clippers game on Saturday. This series is so good. And this is where this is kind of where I

my opening statement If you're not watching this series You just are saying you have a preconceived notion about the NBA that you're not going to move off of because this has been one of the most entertaining series. We're only four games in this game had a 22 point comeback. And the only reason the comeback wasn't completed was the closest buzzer beater you could possibly ever have by Aaron Gordon, who dunked in Yokochi's air ball. They didn't even have an angle on it on the broadcast for forever. So they had the one

that they tried to stop the worst angle and the frame by frame was all off. The frames were too long. You can probably talk on that Hank about like frames. It was at 60 frames per second or whatever, but it wasn't enough frames. They played this one in super slow-mo, but they never even paused that one to see. It was just like playing all the way through. It was as close as humanly possible. I recorded it on my TV with my phone

and my phone set on slow-mo. And then I stopped it and I still wasn't sure about it because it turns out the bottom corner of the basket lights up slightly before the rest of the basket. And they had to go to like Hawkeye technology. Bottom line is whatever they called on the court, that was probably going to end up standing because it can't possibly get closer. Yep. But I have, I have a question for you and Hank and I were discussing this a little bit before. How is it possible that the Aaron Gordon dunk at the end was a buzzer beater and also a game winner?

Because the clock stops when the basket is scored, correct? I think it's when the ball hits the ground. I don't think it's when it touches the ground because I tried to look this up and I could not find a definitive statement on when exactly the clock stops. I think it's what I don't think it's when it hits the ground. So then when is it? I don't know. It could be when it goes through the cylinder, the entirety of the ball goes through the

cylinder or when the entirety of the ball goes through the bottom of the net. But remember, remember Deandre Aitens,op? That if you watch that one back, the ball like there was they maybe could have even put a 0.1 second left, but I think it's when the ball hit the ground because it was there was still time left on the clock when it went through the hoop. But this is yeah, but I think that was a little bit different. Why? Because this was a dunk to end the game. No, that wasn't a dunk. This was the first this was the first dunk that was a Buzzer a true buzzer beater dunk since 1998. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Deandre eight and dunk that Did you not?

That's a dunk That was a dunk it said that this was the first buzzer beater dunk since 1998 Yeah, whoever said that I they might have forgotten the value. We got to respect the value ESPN calm Yeah, I mean, how is this not a dunk? The value was a dunk Am I am I going crazy? I'm looking at it. That's it. That's a dunk. Yeah, that looks like a dog Yeah, and so what I'm saying is though, if I, if it is

when the ball goes through the cylinder, then it would be, it should be impossible for that to be a made basket. And also for time to be completely off the clock at that point, because I don't really understand what you're saying because the ball has to leave her hands, right? Right. If it's still touching any part of your finger, then it's no good. If the buzzer sounded right, if the light went on the second, the ball leaves your finger, then it's no good if the buzzer sounded right if the light went on the second the ball leaves his finger right that's like it when it goes in the net on a dunk. It's like simultaneous right like the basket has been scored when it leaves your hand right. So it should be impossible for that to for that to be the

very at the very least there should be like point 0000 there should be impossible for that to be the very, at the very least there should be like 0.0000. There should be more than zero seconds left on the clock at that point. I'm not following. It's Schrodinger's cat. I'm not following. Thanks. You get it right. I'm not following what you guys are talking about. Yes I am following.

It depends on the ruling of the hoop. But technically, yeah, if it's, if you're saying it's a buzzer beater, then it also shouldn't count. What? I don't follow any of this. Okay. Are you guys trying to get it so that my bet doesn't count? No, no.

I did laugh though when I was telling Hank, I would be like, that would be the worst way to lose a bet. It feels like you guys are having a private conversation to get. I promise you- Stephen Shea gave me a bet. It had nothing to do with your bet. It was just about- Will there be a- If there's time, so they're saying there was time on the clock when the ball left his hands, correct? Yeah, okay

So then if at that same time is when the basket counts then there should be time to throw an inbounds pass try to get A foul with like no time left on the clock essentially. I still don't understand. I know that if there's less than point one They don't like the game's over. Like you can't inbound it. I mean, it's what is it? It's like 0.4. You can't inbound it and grab the ball, but you could get a foul. I still don't understand. Do you guys understand? Am I the only one who's dumb or you guys understand what they're saying? It's basically just fractional second fractional sector, but there's just that they don't do fractional seconds. It's like if it was it was like racing like you want like you guys have found a way to like ruin the coolest moment ever

I don't even understand what's going on. No, it's just a brazen That play was so awesome. It was a question. It was it was awesome. It was great to watch I didn't think about it until about two hours later yeah, and then I was like wait, so they're saying that the ball left his hands and Simultaneously scored when there was time on the clock. But now there's not time on the clock anymore. Yeah. How? Okay. Like the like a buzzer beater. A buzzer beater is different because there's a shot that's already left his hand. Right. So the clock expires when the ball's in the air before it goes through. No, but that doesn't know it just has to leave their hand before. Yeah. Yeah, but it could also sound so there's no time on the clock to inbound it

But there's been buzzer beaters where the ball is going through when the buzzer count when the buzzer goes off, right? But if it goes through and then the buzzer goes off afterwards, then the clock is stopped when the shot is made They review it. Yeah, I think I think it comes out to like there was point zero zero zero zero one second Left on the clock and they were just like no game over but it was awesome it was incredible game and whatever you say like I do think if you I think if a ball is going through the basket and with point one before it hit the ground they would end the game right here yeah watch the value watch the like he literally dunked it and there was I don't know point one second left when it goes through find the actual The actual like play of it not not a replay not that

Just Google it max Google value and you'll be able to see the highlight I also this game was yokich just reminding everyone that he's the best player in the world because he was if he had His teammates stink now Aaron Gordon was incredible with that, with that, uh, watch this ready? He dunks it. There was still, the ball was all the way through and there was still like a second, like a point one left. So it might not be until hits the ground. Right. Cause I think that's, I, I, that's I mean, I remember that play very well. Oh, there's our guy, Pat. Because that was why I was confused. I saw the the stat about the dunk and I was like, the value definitely happened. Yes. So that stat, it turns out

originally the NBA said it was the first game winning buzzer beating dunk in the playoffs since the play by play era began in 1997. Maybe it's not technically a dunk because it was an inbound pass? I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, this game was Jokic being like, I'm the best player in the world. He had 36, 21 and eight, which is just insane. And everyone around him watch ready and see, there was- Did they put time back on? No, they didn't. That was the end of the game. That was the last play of the game. If you look at the box score. Like Jamal Murray was 5 for 17 Christian Brown was 8 for 19. I wonder if if you could check guys who could shoot around him. He would have so many more assists. Yeah, I mean, there have been times in the last couple years where he has guys that can get hot on the outside. Yeah. Porter is capable of doing

it. Yeah. Porter has played better, but it's just, it's like, Yoke has had to basically carry his team. And then obviously the Clippers with like Norman Powell and in, in Kawhi and James Harden, everyone's playing like 22 point comeback to have it and like that what it's an insane series. It's the same game insane series I I hope it goes seven. It's so much fun to watch I love it when you okay she gets the ball on the shot clock is about to expire and he just does like Three different pivot foots and then ends up jumping backwards and throngs. He throws like a soccer inbounds pass over his head Yeah, just swishes. Yeah, you can't do about it. And the series got a little chippy. It's been fun.

Yeah, we had the James Harden step back push. Harden looked like he was ready to square up too. So balled up the fists. Initially, when he pushed, who'd he push, Aaron Gordon? Or was it? I think he pushed Aaron Gordon. He stepped back very quickly and I was like, oh, that's kind of a pussy move.

But then as the clip goes on, he did square up the entire Nuggets team. Yeah. He was ready to go, which is very funny. And we also have this series has given us peak Balmer, which every fucking owner should act like Balmer. Like the, he lives and dies with every single possession. That's how I want your, my owner. Yeah, I agree and in this game it was just it was an insane game It was insane. So denver when they had 35 points to 17 in the third quarter Against the clippers and then in the fourth quarter the clippers outscored the nuggets 34 to 16 Yeah, like leads 22 point they were down 22 points. There are no leads to to start the fourth quarter

And they just kept on shipping away Um, but yeah, this has been incredible and I did hit that 31 which was Stephen Che shout out Stephen Che needs his the guy's the dumbest person I know but hitting a 30 to 1 on the closest buzzer beater possible is Something I'll remember for the rest of my life. Ah Saturday Night Warriors Rockets Steph Curry Steph Curry is just He just remind here's here's what Steph Curry's doing right now.

Jimmy Butler's out, he's playing with a bunch of guys who are, no disrespect to him, but this game basically came down to Gary Payton being able to run a perfect pick and roll with Steph Curry for the entire fourth quarter, and Gary Payton deserves a lot of credit, because the way he was short rolling his attacking the hoop, he needed, they needed one guy who could, who could do that with Steph Curry because they couldn't score in the first half. And Steph had two points through a quarter and a half and he ended up with 36. This is what Steph Curry's doing though. He's 37 years old. Steph Curry broke and demolished the Rockets, the

James Harden Rockets, Chris Paul, Clint Capella, those Rockets. And I think the I think 2015 he beat them on his way to his first title. And then of course, in this the famous seven game series, what was that? I think it was 2018 or 2017 whatever year that was when it went seven and the Rockets member They shot like two for thirty from three. Yep. He demolished the Houston Rockets the Rockets then bottomed out Three years in a row. They averaged 19 wins They have rebuilt themselves into a very talented young team that should be good in the West for a long time and

Guess who's still there? Demolishing these new Rockets Steph Curry. Yes, that's so brutal very frustrating. That's so fucking brutal They literally went through an entire rebuild and the guy who who who? Tore them down the first time is still standing there tearing them down this time Also, you know who's gonna be the happiest guy in the world when LeBron retires is Steph Curry. Yeah. Because then he'd be like, thank God. Now I can retire. Yeah. I'm, I'm 30. Was he 36, 37, 37 still doing this. He can't retire right now because everyone's like LeBron still playing.

What's your excuse? Yeah. Second LeBron's gone. Steph's going to be like, yep. Okay. Time to rest these ankles. I know it's very simplistic and it sounds, it's not like it's a no duh thing, but when you watch Steph play, it's not even his shots, which are so incredible. By the way, one of the coolest things in all of sports is when Steph hits one of his dagger threes and he knows it's good and he starts running back before it goes through. He did that with like three minutes left when they were up six and he just turned around. And that's's to have that confidence and know that it's going to happen is so awesome. But like Steph and, and the amount of, uh, the amount of, of like

eyeballs on him and how much energy they have to take to defend him and the gravity he pulls on the court just makes everything else so much easier. You just, you watch it, even when he's not scoring, there's a reason why there's a guy cutting free to the basket, it's because Steph Curry's out there and they can't leave him alone for a second. Yeah, you know that it's about to be the turnaround shot when he does the thing where he like spreads his

like legs out a little bit in midair as he's hitting it, turns his body, he knows it, the instant it leaves his hand. Yeah. And then he just, he takes a mouthpiece, chews on it, steps back, smiles. He knew what was in, you knew what was in, you're dead. It was awesome. So yeah. And shout out Gary Payton because he was very, very good and that pick and roll was deadly. And it's like without Jimmy Butler, they need someone to step up. And this series still has a lot left left So it's not like the Warriors have won it, but I I do feel like Steph Because we don't know how much longer he's gonna play you have to enjoy those like Saturday night was one of those holy shit

We get to watch Steph Curry play basketball. This is so much fun The Rockets also look too young like if this game goes six or seven, and that's what I say They don't have what it takes. They this is what the NBA is You have to you have to go through the wars to climb the mountain. Like, and guess what? Fred Van Vliet shouldn't be shooting the ball 14 times or whatever he did. And they lost their cool little after you see Draymond and Jalen Green go at it. Yeah.

It looked like Jalen Green actually wants to like kill. Yeah. Which that is a win for Draymond. And I'm not defending Draymond because he's done some very questionable things. But if you are at a point after the game that you're so mad at Draymond that you're jawing with him and you look like you're that upset, Draymond is walking back to the locker room and literally saying to everyone, hey, we got him. Yeah.

Also, I would say that with Draymond, if he can take Jalen Green out of a game while also him getting out of the game, that's a win for the Warriors. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Sunday. Nick's Pistons. Carl Anthony Towns. Good for him. He's the difference. Just bombing it from downtown. He is the difference. And I say he's the difference. Cade Cunningham is phenomenal. Cade Cunningham had a triple double. Jalen Brunson is phenomenal. He had 32 and 11 assists. The Pistons don't have a Carl Anthony Townsend Knicks deal.

Like he is the next, when you have another guy, that's why they traded for him. His last two minutes where he hit a three, he hit a fade away on the baseline where he was basically out of bounds. Then he hit another three. That's the difference in this series that they have a Carl Anthony towns. Cause Kate and Jalen are just so great. And this game was fun to watch from the start. The announcer said it a couple of times. I agree. It was watching a nineties basketball playoff game. They didn't call shit. There was so many fouls. It seems like every layup, some guy was getting hammered on his arms, getting bodied into the ground. No foul, get up, get back down the court. They didn't call shit the entire game. The very last shot of the game, I will say

was a foul. They missed that. I think the NBA said it after the fact. That's insane. It was pretty- They should, I don't even know what they should have to do, but that's sickening. It's meaner that they said we missed it afterwards. Absolutely. Yes. They should, I don't even know what the shit is. That's sickening. It's meaner that they said we missed it. Absolutely. Yes. They should just say, no, it wasn't a foul. I mean, if they had said, Hey, we didn't call any fouls all day. That's why we didn't call that. That would have been a better response by the NBA because I was like, when it happened in real time, I was like, well, yeah, of course they didn't call it. They literally haven't called fouls. But yeah, you should be, you should be pissed if you're a Pistons fan. You in rightfully so, because that was a foul. It clearly if I it was it was full body contact altered the shot

It wasn't even like the guy didn't foul bait him into doing it He might have not tried to jump out of the way right and avoid it, but it was very clearly foul So I do feel bad for Pistons fans That's a tough break if you commit a crime and get away with it But then admit later that you did it you can still get charged with it right depends on what crime? Statute of limitations. Damn. I'm just gonna say No, start it back up start the game back up Yeah, and this has nothing to do with you just wanting the Pistons supply or the Knicks to play more games No, I like imagine if this happened to the Bulls or the or the

Wizards Wizards. Yeah. I was a capital. I'd be bullshit. I have Pistons fans have every right to be bullshit as I was watching it. I guess I probably phrase it wrong when I treated right after the game but I wasn't surprised just because they didn't call anything all game like they were consistently. We're not calling fouls. They turn fouls off which was crazy. But yeah. No Pistons Pizzons fans have every right to be upset because it was bullshit. Yeah. Those refs should be fired if they don't want to do their job fired. They did their job. They're there. They're there. You feel this passionately if this was a Western conference game. Yeah, absolutely. I think

the fact that like I would, them admitting that it was a foul is so much worse to me I agree driving me insane and again, I had no skin in the game, but that's infuriating Yeah, just don't say anything or be like, oh, you know, there was incidental contact not enough to call foul. Just lie. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah I'm just happy for cat. He almost got in a fight. I would need to see that the zestiest fight possible Yeah, I do like watching cat play offense. Yeah. And you know what he is? He's contributing a lot more on defense now too. He's, he's trying hard. Yeah. He's, but this is why dare I say it. I actually think, cause we'll talk about the Lakers warrior or with Lakers, uh,

Timberwolves. I think it might've been one of those trades where both teams kind of did better off because Julius Randall adds like a toughness and a bully ball aspect that the wolves can use when Anthony Edwards needs help and Kat can disappear at moments, but the Knicks needed another offensive weapon that could be like, Hey, I can take this. Yeah. So it's not just Jalen Brunson going to ISO, right? And I try to drive into everyone's face and I'm going to credit to, I said after game two that Jalen Bronson, when he foul baits, uh, it's hard to watch. I feel like it has not been as egregious recently and he's passed the ball a lot better. Like you can see that they did not, they did not go just straight ISO like they did in game two. And when he's playing like that,

he was phenomenal. I mean, he's an incredible player and he took over as well. Yeah that cat turn around on the baseline Where he was he was basically out of bounds when he hit that that was an insane insane play Are you at all worried about the Knicks? No, okay That's good ping-pong are you worried about being I'm worried about the rest. I'm worried about the NBA I'm worried about what's going on there, but oh Okay, got it, so you're thinking that this is part of the this is rigged That game is clearly rigged and so what'll they do to you? It was bullshit It's question. I'm that's if you're my concern levels are much higher for that than the actual Knicks or fucking Jerry O'Connell.

Okay. Wow. Fucking Jerry O'Connell. Damn. The Lakers are in trouble. I think that this is going to go to the distance though. You do? I think so.

Anthony Edwards was so good and he's like his decision making has gotten so much better. What do you end up with? 43? It was over 40. Yeah. I think he had 43. And listen, that game was fun at the end because LeBron couldn't get the ball in bounds, then fouled Anthony Edwards, which I don't know if the Lakers got screwed or maybe JJ Reddick screwed that up, but the way it worked was the Lakers called the timeout to get the ball to a half court. And the Timberwolves called the challenge within 30 seconds of the timeout, won the challenge,

and then the Lakers lose their timeout. Yeah. I don't know. I don't understand. Yeah. Well, that's what happened. So it was like, I don't know if JJ that well, that's what's happened what happened Yeah, so it was like I don't know if I don't know if the if JJ should have waited to see if they were gonna challenge Before using his timeout. Well, JJ was also he was upset after the game and he said that the refs missed a call in Luca He says that Luca Luca Donchich doesn't just fall down. Yeah, I don't know if you've seen Luca Donchich play before Well, he also does sick on Friday, but then on Saturday, he slept all day, all day, all day, all day. Shams had a report. Yeah. He was like, here's what Luca did all day. And I, I clicked the video to be like, what did Luca do all day? He slept. He literally was like, he slept all day, all day on Saturday. He hibernated on Saturday. It was the weirdest

report ever. Can you find the clip? Max? Cause it was, I, I clicked on it being like Luca Donchich found some cryo chamber, uh, alternative medicine and was, and was cured of the flu in some miraculous way. Shams literally just had a report that he slept all day. Play it. That's that he's feeling much better and outside of a team meeting and individual treatment, I'm told Luca Donchich spent all of Saturday sleeping in his bed, which is something he could not do on Thursday and Friday when he was dealing with a viral bug, but he played through it. He couldn't do it on Thursday and Friday. Feeling a lot stronger.

He is ready to go for game four today after spending all of Saturday pretty much sleeping in bed, written in his bed. Okay. All right. That's a long time to sleep. Yeah. That would mess me up for the next day. All day. He couldn't do that Thursday and Friday. No, couldn't sleep Saturday all day in his bed. Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. I have a problem with the Lakers. You can't have two mass guys. Yeah, they do. You have to get one's gotta go. Yeah. You can only have one mask guy per team during the playoffs

I also this is like a the Lakers just don't have They don't have a full team. Well, no, they played their entire line. Yeah, it's crazy. It was crazy also We might be late to this but LeBron James definitely dies his beard. Yeah Yeah, you can see the outside peeking through the the gray is coming out. He's like that Ryan Day shit. Yeah. Ryan Whitney shit. Oh, whoa. What? Whoa. Is this going after breaking news? No, I'm just kidding. The bronze stat line also was very funny because he scored 27 points. How many field goals do you think he hit? Oh, not he shot a lot of foul shots. 12. He hit five shots. He went five for nine for 27 points. He went 15 for 18 at the free throw line. Yeah, he was good

from the line tonight. He's very good from the line. I mean, he was still I mean, that block he had was incredible. That was like old school LeBron. I mean, he's still he's he still can do everything. It's just they don don't have, they don't have enough guys. They really don't. They don't have enough size for the wolves and no subs, no subs. It's crazy when, when one's a guy who spent all day in bed and the other guy's 40 and you played on Friday. Right. Right. That's, that's insane. Insane. So I think, yeah, the wolves hit the a woo because the wolves are there. They're a problem. Do you hate JJ Hank? Do you hate JJ Hank? No, okay good You don't hate JJ. I love JJ. Okay. You love JJ. Yeah, Julius Randall though. You guys are like

He it is weird because both him and cat seemed to be playing harder on defense, right? but they switched just to different teams and Julius Randall has a little bit of that shit to him where he can be like, yeah, you know what? I'm just going to be a bully for a little bit here. But Cat maybe wouldn't do that as much. Yeah. Julius Randall's always a bully. Yeah, right.

But that was kind of what they were missing. Cat's a better offensive player than Julius Randall. But the way Julius Randall could be like, no, you know what? Fuck this. I'm going to take this. The Wolves of need that a little bit. And I agree. And Nas read hit some big threes. Um, yeah, the wolves are in the Edwards. Just, he's, he's just gotten, he's gone up another level. We've got some more face of the league discussion going on right now with Anthony Edwards. I do like how he's like not afraid to do anything.

Dude, he gets everyone, everyone. And he talks shit to them. And he makes, I feel like his decision-making is better than it was last year too. Yeah, he's more in control. Right, he's more in control, knows when to pass, knows how to read defenses. But yeah, the last possession where they called the review, which this is the other thing that I feel like the Lakers might've gotten a little screwed on because the original review the announcer said or the ref said was for Ball Out of Bounds and then they reviewed it and saw that LeBron fouled it. That was another one where they brought Hawkeye in.

Yeah. That's a camera. And it was incredible. I've never seen before. They just said, okay, you know what? We're going to bust this out. I know it's going to look weird on your TV, but yeah, we can see something we were unable to see before. Yes. Because I was watching the review and I thought, well, that's see something we were unable to see before. Yes. Because I was watching the review and I thought, well, that's clearly out of bounds on Anthony

Edwards. Same. Very clearly. And then they're like, nope. From the drone camera angle that we have above, we can zoom in on LeBron's hand and it clearly hits Jimmy Butler's half brother's hand. Yeah. So yeah, it's going to be foul.

Sorry, LeBron. Yeah. That was, the Hawkeye was crazy there. But yeah, that play was like Dante Di Vincenzo who also had some big moments Driving the lane and then Anthony Edwards just basically driving it with him and him just handing him the ball and then Did the foul so? You think it's gonna go seven. I think so. Okay. Hey look, I'll respect the call I think I'll say that might be halfway into me wanting it to go seven

I'll say this I think the Lakers are like I would maybe even game of the year Lakers in game five Yeah, that's probably what I'm getting at is I feel like it's definitely gonna go six, right? And then I think that this is an Adam Silver situation. Oh LeBron game seven. No miles. That's That basically will decide who's the face of the league That's true because Adam Silver wouldn't do it for if it goes seven. That means that LeBron is still the face still the face or Lucas or possibly Luca. Yeah. All right. What other oh, the Celtics, you feel feel we can.

How'd the game go today? It's good. Hard fought, hard fought game. The Magic are our tough team. OK. We battled we won Closed out what Tuesday Wednesday? Yeah. Mm-hmm. And then The Bucks are done. Yeah, Dame. I think Torres Achilles sucks. Yep. The Pacers are just better Yep, Pacers are a fun team to play with pace there. I Said it what last week? I think the Pacers last week I think the Pacers I think the Pacers

Cav is going to be a more competitive series than people think. So I put a lot of respect on the Pacers but the Bucks Dame Terry's Achilles is like it already was nightmare time for the Bucks. Now it's like where where is the honest going. I mean it just sucks that Dame he comes back from blood clots and you're like, yeah go out there play the full game Twice in a row. Yeah, pops the Achilles now. He's done. Yeah, I just feel I feel bad. I feel really bad I feel really bad Because it feels like that also sucked a lot of the bad blood out of the series Yeah, although Hal Burton was going after Bobby Porter's which seems like a mistake Hal Burton strikes me and he's a very good player and I respect the fuck out of the Pacers Hal Burton

I feel like he talks a lot of shit only when they're winning Yeah, I don't know if he's I don't know if I've seen him do that When they're like struggling or trying to like fire up the team and that's the type of situation He's a little goofy little little goofy with the with the shit talking But yeah, the Pacers are good. I like all their starters are and we're in double figures tonight again Feels like they have just guys ever everyone can contribute I'm excited for the Pacers Cav series. I want to talk some pock Pft. I got to hear everything about Friday night. I mean Friday was a long time. We can talk about today's no

But you're there. I'm not I wasn't saying that because of a loss I'm saying because I would need to hear about you and oldie in Montreal. I cannot wait for this video. All right. So a couple of things. Um, one, that is the loudest building I've ever been in my life. That is, that's louder than death Valley LSU on a Saturday night. It was their first, first home game in eight years, eight or nine years. Cause they went to the Stanley cup final in the COVID year. Yeah. So they haven't, they haven't had a home crowd there. Obviously it's a huge hockey town. Like they care very deeply about the Canadians there. And it is the loudest stadium I've ever been in my life. I was amazed from, from the time I walked in until the time that I left, like they're pissed off. They're loud. They're super knowledgeable. It's crazy. So immediately the game starts, The entire crowd starts chanting Thompson at our goalie. And then later on in the game, Thompson got hurt, got taken off the ice. Five seconds later, guy, they, yeah, by Stromer, unfortunately, but, um, they started chanting the name of the backup goalie just as loud.

They knew, they knew the backup goalies name and were prepared with a chant for him immediately. Anytime there was like a turnover or just a good pass, the crowd would erupt and go nuts to the point that I thought it was a penalty that had been called. It's like, no, they're just cheering on a good, like a small good play for their team. But yeah, they were just an incredible crowd, incredible sports town. I don't want to go back up there. Like I want to close the series out at home now because like that is a legitimately terrifying place to play hockey. How was it

being with Oldie? So Oldie is the best, obviously. He's the best guy ever. He showed us around, took us out for some poutine. And I don't understand why poutine is not a bigger thing in the United States. So poutine is like the dish up in Quebec. It's French fries, it's gravy, it's cheese curds, and then they'll put like some meat on it or whatever. It's all the things that Americans love. Fried, gravy, meat, cheese. That's like all of our food.

What a hang? Sounds like a part of my cheesesteak meal. We should do a poutine. Poutine has the- Isn't that what we have basically minus the gravy? Oh, that's cheese, not gravy. Cheese fries. But you can make gravy, right?

Anyways, yeah, we definitely should try to do that. But the other thing about Oldie is, Oldie is pretty much a hypnotist because the crowd, you could compare them to like an Eagles fan, you know environment where they're they're hostile towards outsiders Right not like I ever felt like I was in danger or anything But there would be people that would come up like aggressively being like fuck you Fuck you and old he has an ability to take anyone that's getting his face because he was rocking a capitalist jersey Yeah, he's a good guy He has the ability to within about a half second take a guy that wants to punch him in the face

To the guys now smiling and putting his arms around and be like, let me buy you a beer a half second I'm not I'm not even kidding. This happened probably two dozen times over the course of the night I thought oldie was about to get into an altercation not from his own fault Right somebody else that looked pissed off and the next thing I know they're like slapping each other's backs and high five and taking a picture Together, I love it. It's crazy. Oldie is the absolute best. So I had a great time hanging out with him, hanging out with Pug. Montreal is a great city.

I'd like to go back. It feels very, very European. Yeah, it does. Like it feels like you're in Paris a little bit. Did you go to a strip club? Did not go to a strip club. They're known for their strip clubs. Pug was like, please, can we go to a strip club?

I'd love to go to a strip club. I was like, down boy, down, down, no Pug, no. Super sex? Pug was like, the Nehru Massage, let's go there. I was like down boy down down. No, pug. No super sex. Pug was like the Nehru massage. Let's go there. It was like, no pug. We can't do that. We're on the clock right now. Yeah. One of their, one of their most famous strip clubs is just called super sex. So I heard about that place. I also heard it got shut down. I don't know if that's true. Somebody told me it got shut down. Oh no,

not super sex. It's such a, Hey, how, how obvious can we make this super sex superset? It sounds like a translation like we you know like a French person was like we need to sell sex Yeah, yeah, but no it's such a cool city first thing. We don't it's abandoned. It's an abandoned sex Yeah, it is sex is spelled with an extra e on the end so oh now. It's called sex appeal That's that's not as that's not as direct. No super sex. That could be anything super sex is it? It was great first thing we did we went out for poutine and then right after that We went on a walk up to the top of this mountain that overlooks the city of Montreal

And if you go on a walk for like 20 minutes, then you're like, okay, I can do whatever I want Yeah, because like I got my exercise and saw a beaver felt real Canadian cool beaver out in the wild. That was great Yeah, just hung out with oldie. The video is gonna be coming out me pug oldie had a had a great time I do not want to go back though. So do when I say it's loud You've never experienced a sports environment like we've been in some very loud. Yeah. Yeah, this was fucking Canadian hockey Just doesn't even count when you do like loudest. Yeah, It's like it's already established. Yeah. That that's the loudest. Uh, so today you win. That was a little nervous game because going to two would have been like, I still think the capture and win the series, but two, two is a different

book. Yeah. Yeah. On, on Friday it was a crazy game and we never felt like we were going to win that game because they outshot us. They were they there was so much like energy on the ice and that fight between Tom Wilson and I think Anderson at the end of the second period was all into the. Yeah, they go and they go into the Caps bench when the coach Spencer Carberry was trying to leave. And he said after the game, he's like, yeah, I was trying to just get out and go back to the locker room. But I saw two large individuals coming through, so I figured I can't get out there. So then, uh, there was, it was just a crazy game, two injured goalies. It was nuts. And then today's game, it felt like the Canadians

had the upper hand. And then Tom Wilson pretty much changed hockey, changed the sport much like, uh, Travis Hunter changed football. Tom Wilson changed the sport of hockey with one hit on in the open ice that led to a goal. He took that guy's soul. Yeah, that's Tom Wilson, baby. I love the fact that he's the capital. I would hate him if he wasn't, and I love him because he is. Are people debating it?

I saw some debate of it, but I defer to all things Paul Bissonnette when it comes to any of these takes, because you will see people playing the screenshot game of course especially with that's That's when you know the Stanley Cup playoffs are here is Tom Wilson slow-mo hit. Yeah, so you can let's debate it You can do it that way Or you could listen to Paul Bisson at and let me find his take I want to get I want to get the verbiage right if you think the Wilson hit was dirty You're a fucking clown and stop watching playoff hockey Paul Bisson that love it. He's played. Yeah, I think he has several playoff games

All right other hockey we've got we have some really good series outside of the Carolina series where they're up 3-1 and The Leafs although the Sen senators did win in overtime, which is good because I wanted the senators when it's Canadian versus Canadian, it's like you gotta, you gotta let them have one. Yeah. Well, the other thing about being up in Montreal was during they would play songs during breaks in the action and most of the songs had a pause in them. And in that pause, everybody in the stadium would just say, fuck the Leafs.

Oh, I love that. There's still things like you're everything you've described is just an SEC game on ice. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, the Leafs lose an overtime to the senators. By the way, we are going to have some hockey this week, whether it be biz Yandel or Whitney, uh, just so that we can get a full full picture because we're not a hockey experts the avalanche tied a 2-2 which that landiscag goal I don't know if you guys saw it. Yeah his smile after that goal was just like sports rule It was because he's Whitney told us the story that he's basically been out for three years And he's their heartbeat their captain everything like that. He comes back

He scores and the relief and smile on his face. And there was like people, there was, there was like a couple literally making out right after the goal with the Landiscock jersey on. Yeah. It's like, this is, this is the sports rule. It was a super cool moment. Let me ask you a question. That series is going to be, it's two, two right now. And it feels like, cause we've already had two overtime games in that series. Let me ask you a question about the Leafs though yeah what what would you root for if i gave you these three options them to blow the three Leafs win the Stanley Cup uh Leafs get swept in the second round or Leafs blow a three-oh series lead against the Senators and get bounced

three-oh i think i think that's what I would take too. I don't think they're gonna blow this lead. But if you're a Leafs fan, losing in the- You're thinking about it. Yeah. And I think Whitney had a stat that it's been like 25 years since the Leafs swept an opponent, which was the senators, I think in like 2001.

And they were that close, they were in overtime. But yeah, when you lose it over time, you're like, Oh shit, here comes the doubts. Yeah. I would also be happy if they won the Stanley cup as long as they don't beat the capitalists to get there. Yeah. Like it would be a cool story. I'd feel happy for Rob Ford's ghost and everybody in Toronto. It's funny cause it's also if they blow a three, nothing lead to another Canadian team that as a fan of comedy, that hits the sweet spot. I feel like we are, our American shows,

cause I agree with everything you just said, by the way. I would be, like, it'd be a cool story for the Leafs to win the Stanley Cup. If you talk to any Canadian who's not a Leafs fan, they're like, fuck you guys. Why would you ever say that? You're basically rooting for the Yankees and Cowboys combined.

Yeah. Which I understand. Iboys combined? Yeah, which I understand. I get it. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But it would be a cool story. Yeah. Also oldies at least fan. So I got it. I got to support my guy. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get old to here for a live stream. We have to. And then the jets and blues, the blues fucking killed the jets today. And jets are, they, they are the one seed, right? Uh, yeah. When it pegged, they won the presidents row. Right. Yeah. That's a two, two series. Yeah. And it feels like who, what's going

on here? There's some, there's some questions about some of the goaltending. Yeah. That was like the logo that was in the logo. That's kind of like the Knights wild series. The Knights, I think were heavy favorites. They, they had to win in overtime to tie that series to to well their goalie is one of the best goalies in the regular season But he's consistently been one of the worst in the playoffs. Yeah So we got a he might not be able to win the big one. It's hell a buck, right? Yep. Yeah, this is the Isn't isn't the hell a buck Bennington Hellbuck's our goalie, right? Yeah, this is the four nations

Exhibition game all-star game. Yep final. Yep. That's what the matchup is. Yep Yeah, oh that should be cuz he got pulled today. Mm-hmm. Oh, he's not been good Oh the Blues is the Blues I mean Bennington would be if the Blues go on a deep run like blues is the blues I mean Bennington would be if the blues go on a deep run like because when they won that year what it was was it like six or seven years ago and when they when they were basically dead in the water in January yeah this would be an all-time run yeah either way the the hockey playoffs have been awesome awesome awesome that game you were at on Friday night like had

everything dude was crazy it was It was an absolutely insane game. I missed the OV Gold, though, which was the only thing I'll say. The only thing I'll say about that is that stadium, again, I'll admit, I am afraid of a building. I'm terrified. I don't want to go back in that building as an opposing fan anymore. The bathroom situation. I feel like they got like two bathrooms in the entire stadium. And so you had to be,

you had to be stuck in a big line of pissers for about 30 to 40 minutes. And so I was unable to make the OV goal when I got back. But that's okay. That's okay. We'll move forward from there. But again, like overall, the people up there were very nice. There was a lot of shit talking, but it was like friendly shit talking. I'm just talking about the sheer volume of that barn was insane. Yeah. The, uh, it was that game and then the night game Kings Oilers, which they're playing right now in the, uh, Oilers are in deep, deep trouble cause they're down to one in the series and they're down three, two in the game as we're watching it. But you, so

I watched your game, PFT had everything, goals, fights, electric barn, all that. And then the Oilers game later on that night, uh, the Oilers, uh, were down and they had us, they had, I think it was, I want to say it was four, three, they scored and then scored almost immediately off the face off to go up five four, which was like the place felt like it was the roof was going to come off because they scored that quickly two goals and it was like damn hockey fucking rocks. So yeah, it's been great hockey. It's been fun to watch. Also, is the hurricane series over? No, it's three one. I believe three one. It does feel like that series is over. Yeah, it's kind of like the NBA where there's a couple series that are not great. You'd say the Leafs and the Senators and that one. I know the Panthers, they're like a game behind. So the Lightning did did win a game, which was good that that series should be

competitive. But every other series has been awesome. Yeah. And even though the caps are up three to one, I don't think the series is over. No. And the games have been great. Yeah. Yeah. Very exciting. Okay. Should we do who's back and then get to our interviews? Who's back the week is brought to you by our friends at truly, truly hard seltzer, truly unruly lemonade combines the high elk fun of truly unruly with everyone's favorite lemonade. It's the official hard seltzer apart my take lemonade Let loose eight percent ABV a hundred percent delicious for supercharged lemonade flavors bump and blue Razz Oh gee original lemonade punched up pineapple wild pink level up your lemonade with truly unruly Truly unruly again bumping blue Razz

Oh gee original lemonade punched up pineapple and wild pink level up your lemonade with truly unruly this summer 8 abv 100 delicious was that a little You're faking us out. Nice He was pretending to go to the bathroom because he's done that before hank who's back the week Uh, yeah, my who's back of the week is embracing debate. Oh, what's that? This was a tweet. Oh, he's that? This was a tweet. That got one hundred and eighty million views. Shit. This past weekend.

Also kind of crazy. It's just got. Yeah. Read the tweet. I think a hundred people could be. I saw a different tweet. That's not the tweet. That's the tweet that got one hundred eighty million views. Yep. Read the one that got 180 million views. Yep. Read

the one that got 180 million views. I cannot read the one that got 180 million views. I will paraphrase it with some alternate words. Okay. The hard one. I think 100 friends could be one gorilla. Everybody just got to be dedicated to the shit. And that sparked a debate across the internet with people saying whether or not a hundred people could or could not defeat one gorilla in a fight. I am firmly of the belief that a hundred people could easily be easily. Okay. All right. I think, I think 10 guys that could really hold their own that knew what they were doing like ten UFC fighters

But the key part of this ten is everyone's got to be about the shit. Yeah, you got to be about the shit because the first guy who goes in is gonna get his head ripped off by the gorilla and Then everyone else has to be like but hold on we got it. We got to still do this together It's got to be like the Nazi meth sold well, but it's one by one no well No, I know but like I was getting there Someone's dying like the the advantage that we have as human beings is that we can do a battle plan put that together We're not gonna go after this guy like like bad guys go after Steven Seagal. We're like, okay I'm gonna run at him then he's gonna step to the side touch me then I'll have a heart attack and die

Then you go at him. No, you got step to the side touch me Then I'll have a heart attack and die then you go at him No, you got to just if you're about the shit You got it had I think you could do with ten if they're heavyweights you just surround you grab limbs and you just start breaking Bones. Yeah, you just start breaking both one person's one break a bone I just I would honestly just grab his windpipe and snap it Done. I think you get two guys that just go for the eyes. You gotta take the eyes out. If you get the eyes, then you can beat the fuck out of anything. Also, do gorillas have balls? I'd assume they do. Just fucking hammers balls. I was thinking that too. They got,

they got balls. They got tiny dicks. The problem though is what happens when the gorilla gets a hold of one person and rips his head off and then everyone's like, fuck. Or just starts swinging them around like Donkey Donkey Kong, right? Right, just is everyone still about that shit. You have to stay about the shit if you ain't ready to die sign up Warning sign don't sign up warning sign like if you ain't ready to die. Don't sign up. Mm-hmm. Okay, you got it All right, but like let's say it's let's say it's every male in this office We're getting killed. Yeah. Not us. We're not about the shit. I am not about the shit. No, for real. I, the whole

thing with the animal hypotheticals is well, actually, no, I am about, I would take it. What are you talking about? Yeah, you're right. I was being, I was being, I was honestly being humble. I think I could do it. Just me and max two of us, two guys like us we could do it after a case race. No problem. Max memes is going insane. What does he say. He's on his memes. So weird this whole I'm just imagining one of you guys like running out it just rips you in half like crying laughing since we started this. It's goofy when he dresses up as Luke. It's a funny scenario. What I would do personally, I would try to tear it to the ground. It's simple octagon thinking. I would cheap shot. Ground and pound. I would simply cheap shot him. I'd take out his ACL.

I'd break the code. I also don't know how does that even work like mathematically like a hundred people with one gorilla? There's not enough surface area what no wait Yeah, no max. I know what you're saying like obviously all a hundred people aren't gonna jump on that So that yes, I'm saying because you just be jumping on your bros No, but you have to take into account some of them blue some of them are gonna get wiped out. Yeah Yeah, it's body blue Yeah, it's body blue me dude Hanks not wrong. I think Bonnie blue could take down a grill Yeah, cuz she would just start sucking his dick and the gorilla just put its hands behind it said be like ah

This is awesome, and then she come up for air boom right in the nose mm-hmm knock him out I Feel like yeah, this would be easy I Think I think a hundred's way too many. Unless the gorilla knows. Every guy, like I guess you're, you're counting on the people being about the shit. Oh, you got to be about the shit. What was the, what was the tweet, Max? You got to be about the shit. Don't sign up. You just got to be dedicated. Warning sign. Like if you ain't ready to die, don't sign up. That's a fact.

Memes. You think you take it? What if the, what, what if I die? What if the gorilla was Italian? We have a nice meal. Dead die. We've got to shoot them in the head. Wait, no kids, no family. The big question is, is the gorilla dedicated to the shit? Right. Cause I don't think it would be Yeah, maybe what the gorillas probably just stay dead if the gorilla was dedicated to shit, then we'd we'd be in some shit Yeah But I do think that you take a gorilla's baby, and then oh

I'm not I'm not kidnapping yeah, listen You know we kill a gorilla. We're no no family. No get them about no pipe bombs. We all know our bomb Yeah, we know what we're signing up for we're competitors. This is our story. You know, we kill a gorilla where no no family. No, I didn't move on no pipe bombs We all know our bomb. Yeah, we know what we're signing up for we're competitors. This is our thing Yeah, just this between the gorilla and 99 and my friends. We do murder classy here Gorilla murders classy. I can't see this now. Why can't like Bezos or someone do this? Yeah I agree it up be like mr. Beast. Mr. Beast was literally invented for this Mr. Beast. You give everyone $10 million can compete in the, in the a hundred verse gorilla challenge. If you die, you don't get the money. That's it. That's it. Those people

wouldn't be about the shit. Yeah. That actually would. People would be running away from it. Yeah. I do think the first three, even if you, I'm saying that I think you could do it with 10 of like big, strong fighters. Uh, the first three would be almost immediately dead and it would be ugly. It would suck. Like it would be a gruesome death. That's where you find out people are about the shit. Yeah. Those guys aren't going in after that. Well, I can't be, I can't be held accountable for if my guys pussy out on me. Cause they'd said that they were dedicated, I believe them. I trust my guys.

Yeah. All right, who's your who's back, PFT? I mean, that was my who's back of the week. That's post-Shivak. So I'll just say my who's back of the week is Warren Zivon. Warren Zivon got elected to the Rock in the Hall of Fame. Oh, hell yes. Finally.

And also, why did you think Warren Zivon was back? Because of Wolves? No, I saw a cover from Stagecoach that was awesome awesome of a Warren Zvon song. Oh who played it? Zach Brown. Was it good? What song was it? It was really good. Where was it? London? No, it was not. Lawyers, guns and money? It was Lawyers, guns and money. That's another good one. Yeah That song rocks. Warren Zvon might be my favorite songwriter of all time and he's he's deserved being in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame For a while. It's crazy. He wasn't. It's insane insane so he finally got in and then also Outkast got in. Oh. Which is awesome. Yeah they should have been in a while ago too. Big boy and

Dre. Hell yeah. Yeah. I think I may have been shooting this shit with Eddie Vedder on Friday. What? Okay. That's what Mooc said. I'm not a big music guy. You're such a piece of shit. I didn't know. You're such a piece of shit. You're such a piece of shit thing to say. Were you like hanging out with him? I was sitting in front of the... Why is everyone laughing?

I was sitting in front of this guy. Yeah, I was shooting the shit with Eddie Vedder. I'm not a music guy. But first, Pearl Jam. You don't fucking know who Eddie better is dude. Not really. I don't really know who it is. What are you chopping it up about. Just it was just like ballgame banter. There was a guy sitting sitting behind me that like I was getting really pissed off about the Phillies and then people behind me were like are you a Phillies fan the way you're talking about the Phillies and then people behind me were like, are you a Phillies fan the way you're talking about the Phillies? And then, you know, just like little, little.

You were getting into Frank. Yes. Right. Yeah. Yes. It was like, I don't understand why you're not a real, you're not even a fan. You hate this team. Right.

And then, you know, it's just like ballgame banter. And then after the game, MOOC was like, I'm pretty sure that was Eddie Vedder that was sitting behind us. Cause apparently he's a big Cubs fan. Yes. And we were sitting in, we were sitting in the 1914 club. So it would make sense that He was there He's I don't know I know I Got to meet Eddie better once he was very cool guy

Didn't smell the best but that doesn't matter because he's Eddie better And also was after the Cubs clinched Beat the Dodgers to go to the World Series. Oh wow. The Oilers just scored. So I think he also was like drenched in champagne for hours in cigars. That was crazy. The Oilers just- How much time's left? Just 28 seconds left. Holy shit. One other crazy- They just tied it with the empty netter. Another crazy part about Montreal is before the third period started, there were still people that were coming into the arena. That's crazy. Like I don't think they were even checking

tickets at that point. They were just like anybody that's outside that wants to come in, get in here. If you're going to yell, we need you to yell. That's that's like, I feel like 1980s shit. Yeah Could you have a picture of who's sitting in front of you this is pissing me off that you were just hanging out with any Veteran you thought I saw it so funny. It very well could not I have no idea. I have no idea This is going off of what somebody else said Your was he cool somebody else said. You're cool. Yeah. I mean we were just talking. It was just ballgame banter. You know you start talking around talking to the people. He actually probably you're probably friends of him now because you like that's what someone that famous and

that talented is looking for is ballgame banter not Hey Eddie better. Yeah I will say nobody came up to him to ask for a picture. So maybe what I was describing Rob described what he looked like. I looked up a picture that looked kind. It did kind of look like one of the guys that was behind us. Okay. I don't know. I don't know what else. What was MOOC basing it off of. I have no idea. MOOC texted MOOC texted me after the game was like I think that was Eddie Vedder that was sitting. Oh so we're going. Okay. All right. But I don't know because I I would have I would in a million years I would have never guessed what he looked like. Either way it was just chill. Yeah it was just chill. Just make any better. Any better. All right. My who's back the week is is Bill Belichick.

Why. I can't go to the bathroom now. He's got you can if you want. He's got a new book out and he was on CBS. Good morning America. What is it? Yeah. The softball series. What is it? Just lighthearted.

Yeah. CBS morning time. Um, and the interview was very funny. Crematology, Bill Belichick, the shirt he was wearing was so funny. Incredible shirt. He knew he was wearing was so funny. Incredible shirt. He knew he was going to be doing an interview for television. Yeah. And his shirt, I feel like it's been in like a cardboard box

with a family of moths for about 25 years. Yeah. But yeah, he looked good. He pulled it off. Yeah. And then his girlfriend, who we love, Jordan Hudson, she's a delight. We have nothing but positive things to say about her. Co-worker, friend, lover, spiritual guy.

Right. She's the best. Muddy interrupted the interview and was like, we're not talking about that when asked how they met. Well, we already know how they met. They met on an airplane. On an airplane. On an airplane. They discussed philosophy.

Yeah, and then there's theories that CBS left that in because that wasn't the only time she had interrupted, but we don't buy that theory. It's bullshit. Yeah, listen. Do we all agree? It's bullshit. It's bullshit.

I think that they're making Coach look bad because they know that this will be interpreted in a certain kind of way. The real deal is, and we're going to talk to Schragger about this in a little bit, but she is a smart cookie. Yeah. And very smart. And this moment was all over the internet promoting his book today. Yeah. He's going to sell a ton of books because of the way that she comported herself during this interview. So she's an incredible marketer. She is. She is. I think she's the brains in that relationship.

Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, she that's a catch for Bill Belichick. Yeah. And also they were trying to ask him some gotcha questions like what about this picture of you guys doing yoga on the beach? Right. Like it wasn't a normal picture that they were taking. It just felt very, it felt designed to make Bill and his his lovely girlfriend Jordan

All right Look like there was something wrong with them when maybe the problem is with us right for being so cold-hearted that we can't appreciate a healthy Relationship and people are like oh he's whipped or something. No, it's not. That's a healthy relationship They're both very highly successful people in a relationship together. Love is love Independently say everyone leave it alone Hank, what are your thoughts on how PFT and I just handled that in trying to get Belichick on PMT in the future Do we do a better job? Yeah, okay good

What did you think Have you watched it I watched the interruption clip and then I saw the eight minute interview and I started to watch it and I got like 10 seconds and I was like, I can't do this. Here's what I'll say. Uh, Jordan, uh, if you can land us bill Belichick on PMT, you can interrupt as many times as you want and we will cut or not cut whatever you want. You could just sit here. You could be on the pod. We're, we're a pro girlfriend podcast. That's a pro bill Belichick's girlfriend podcast. That's a fact. Whatever that looks like. I just,

yeah, that was a crazy clip. I got crazy. I got the vibe. We have to say this because we want to get Belichick. I got the vibe that bill didn't really want to be doing an interview. I don't think, I don't think Jordan didn't want to do the interview either. So Belichick knows he's on social media. Yeah, I would say so. I'd say that's a reaction. Clip was like, how'd you get this picture? Yeah, it looks like what are you talking about? The yoga that was private. It looks like the CBS guy just like broke into his house, set up a camera and surprised him in the kitchen. Like Bill, we're going to talk now. Oh man. So yeah, we're pro Jordan. Absolutely. Yeah. I thought you think that went well with Hank. We'll just make the clip of us just saying the

good part and leave out the part where we say we just have said all this because we want to get Belichick on and pretty much it's been clear that you have to say nice things about his girlfriend to get him on. I will not leave that that out and then put in the other stuff. We will not ask how you guys met. That's that question is that's a gotcha question. Yeah, we would not do a gotcha question. That's gotcha. Gotcha question journalism. That's fucked up. We would not do that to ask someone how he met his significant other is just too far in my book. I agree. Something should be private Like you might why don't you and no questions about anything that you post publicly to your millions of followers on Instagram? Why don't you just ask him a question about spy gate while you're at it? Yeah, or about Aaron Hernandez

I bet you that's a that's the exact same type of question is saying how did you guys meet that fake news fucking reporter? Probably went into this interview was like I know what I'm gonna do I'm gonna get him with this fucking picture that he doesn't even know exists It's out there on the internet that got retweeted and posted a billion times. Tell me about this fucking sure I Feel bad for the reporter a little bit Do I Think bills having fun. I think bills doing Bill logic. Do you? I think Bill's having fun. I think Bill's doing just fine. Just don't clip that part. Bill's doing great. Is he, is it how do conservatives

or something? It feels like reverse. It might be. No, I know it's not reverse. It's, it's what's happening. Like you get elder person with the younger person. be. No, I know it's not reverse. It's it's what's happening. Like you get elder person with the younger person. Well, no, I'm saying like you get a little older and you can't take care of yourself. And then someone comes and takes care of you and then also takes everything. Has Bill, he hasn't updated his will. Has he? I hope not. Keep an eye on that. I think we're going to get them. I think we're going to get them on PMT, guys. I think we did a good job.

Did we do a good job, Max? This is up to you. You love love. I mean, I love love more than anybody. I love love. This podcast loves love. I want to say that if Bill is, if he's happy, if he's having mind blowing sex and he's doing great and loves college life, good for him.

Good for him. Far be it for me to judge. Good for him. Far be it for me. If he found his soul mate, good for him. Good for him. Hank. I love love.

Yes. But you're not in love with love. But maybe there's a world where we can still get them on. And this isn't an issue. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, that would be that. That would be great. Well, you know what?

Maybe we can all laugh about it. How ridiculous this whole thing is. It's like, who cares? You could date whoever you want to date CBS fake news yeah we're gonna make a couple jokes but the best way to know that it doesn't bother you Jordan is to let Bill Belichick come on the show yeah and it's like he you're not controlling anything mm-hmm has we made a couple jokes here and there. Love, love. Love, love. That's really what it all comes down to is we love, love on this show,

no matter how it looks, how it sounds, how many times you interrupt an interview, we love, love. Well, that's where it gets tricky is that, you know, she's also responsible for a lot of his social media stuff. Correct. So she has to be in the room. It's literally her job to be in the room. Yeah, so what do you want? You don't think that women can have jobs is that what you're saying? Here's the problem be allowed in the room

Here's the problem a lot of people in today's day and age don't respect a strong powerful woman That's the problem here They think this they see a strong powerful woman And they just start throwing around the B word or the C word and that's bullshit You see here doing her job making sure that hot button issues aren't brought up Yeah on which should be a fluffy interview and your thought is automatically. Why isn't she just making them a sandwich in the kitchen? Yeah, I think that's fucked up. Yeah, I think she's doing her job and she's doing it exceedingly Well, correct women could be bosses too. So if you don't love love,

then you're a misogynist and you also hate love. Hank, how are we doing? Are we falling apart? I think we absolutely nailed this. Things gotta be said. I don't know what to say. I don't know. I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place. Put that on a coast card. Things gotta be said. I don't know what to say. Wait, which things have to be said? Just things. Things do have to be said.

Wait, have we said any of the things that have to be said? But we're not getting Belichick on the podcast. We said great things about Jordan in this. I said I love love. I said this. Yeah, that's it. This is exactly what I'm saying. Like it is what it is. I said I love love. I said this is exactly what I'm saying. Like it is what it is. Things have to be said. Right. Answer me this Hank. What was the goal of this interview? Of the Belichick interview? Yes. To promote his new book. Did the book get promoted? Yep. Did she do a great job? I haven't seen a lot of

online discourse about the book. Well, it's promoting the book I've seen some really yeah in an interview for Bill Belichick's new book his young girlfriend interrupted several times But they've got the part about the book in there. She is young girlfriend interrupted his young girlfriend who is age-appropriate Interrupted several times, but really she was just interrupting with her love. Sorry for her love. They can't stand to be apart. We fucking crushed.

Yeah. We're going to get them on. We're going to get them on. I love love bill. All right. Send this straight to her. Uh, all right. We're going to hit.

Let's do our already heard it with Peter Schrager and then we got Stavros in studio, which was Love, love, Bill. All right. Send this straight to her. All right. We're going to hit. Let's do our. She's already heard it. With Peter Schrager and then we got Stavros in studio, which was very, very funny. So let's get to it. Before we get to Pete Schrager, he's brought to you by our great friends over at Game Time. NBA playoffs are here. The only place to buy hard to get playoff tickets is Game Time.

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Schrager. Okay we now welcome on our very good friend, recurring guest. He's now part of ESPN. Congratulations on that. It's Peter Schrager. He was at the draft. He's fresh home from Green Bay. So we wanted to have you on to basically get you to dump your brain to us on what occurred the last three days. And I think we should start obviously with the biggest story, Shador Sanders. I heard your take earlier in the week. I thought it was pretty apt. Uh, and it then turned out to be true, but what did you hear and what exactly occurred? Because I think from my perspective,

I didn't think he was going to be a first rounder. I knew that going in. I thought he was going to go in the second. Then when it went, you know, Dylan Gabriel and Jalen Miller, I think everyone's like, what the hell is going on? So what happened and what's kind of the takeaway from the whole thing? All right. So what I said on Simmons is podcast last week was that I don't think he's going to go in the first round and yet you're not going to hear that being vocalized. Like it's just not worth it. The juice is not worth the squeeze. And what I meant was, look, we,

we don't know that. So it's safer to put any quarterback in the first round when they're being rumored as a first round quarterback, even if you're hearing you don't have a team necessarily. And in the case of Shadour, I think a lot of people were pulling for him to go in the first round in the media. And I'm not speaking on behalf of anybody else. I just know Dion has been an icon for all of us growing up.

He's also been a colleague of many of the people in the media. He worked at NFL network for 15 years. He also has been with CBS. He's worked with ESPN. He's got a documentary on Amazon. He does stuff. He does his own show with 2B.

He does a lot of interviews. So it's like, what's the win? Barstool sports. He does Barstool. Of course he did. We're very biased. No joke, I've totally forgot about that. The college stuff that you guys did with him.

So it's like, you start thinking about it and you're like, all right, so he's a borderline first round pick and I do a mock draft. I put him 21 to the Steelers. I do one mock draft. And you would have thought I had put him going in the seventh round, the response. And it wasn't from Dion. But the media started

believing that all right, he'll go somewhere in the first round. But my job is different than Lewis Riddick or Mel Kriper or Daniel Jeremiah. My job is to get on the phones and get things from the teams. And I did not have a single team who was like, if she door falls to us, we're taking them. Right. So I went through the different teams that needed quarterbacks. I put them to the Steelers on a hope and a prayer. And I went on get up on Thursday morning and said, guys, I literally put a blindfold on and pointed to the Steelers and said, if any coach can unilaterally say like,

he's my guy, I'm taking him, it's Tomlin. They needed a quarterback. And I know his meeting went really well with them two weeks ago. Like I know it, he went there Friday, he was there for five hours, they loved him. And Arthur Smith liked them, Tomlin liked him. So I'm like, it makes sense. But in the same breath on that episode of Get Up, guys, I was like, or he's not getting drafted in the first round. Right. And, and starts. Now, that's all good. I never, never thought he would slip to day three. But in the aftermath of it, you start doing it out and you're like, all right, if a guy comes in, he's like every interview

saying I'm going to change your franchise, I'm going to change your culture. And I've got all this stuff that comes with it. As a starter, like, yeah, let's go. But like, now you're talking about backup, it's almost, it's almost less easy to find a spot to be a backup than it is to be a starter. And my last thing on on Shador, and we can get into all the aftermath of the print call and everything was such an unorthodox, untraditional, unprecedented prospect in the fact that he played for his dad in high school, played for his dad at Jackson State, played for his dad at Colorado. You go up to Boulder, everyone tells you, Deon has that thing dialed in, but it's unlike any other program. Bruce

Feldman had a quote where he was explaining, you go in there, Deon just runs it all. Who could talk to the kid? who could talk to this one, and it's a party, but it's also a very unorthodox situation up there with how Dion was running it. Then he accepts an invite to the East West Shrine game, and then the NFL sends out a memo, it's like you have to practice, and decides not to practice or play in the game,

goes to the combine, interviews with teams, and then doesn't work out, which a lot of people have not done, but doesn't do it, and also declined an opportunity to go to the senior bowl, declined the big 12 workout. So you have this unorthodox prospect and you wouldn't do all that stuff unless you're a first round pick.

Like Caleb Williams can do that stuff, or Andrew Luck can do that stuff. If you're not a surefire top pick, usually you want to throw and you want to work out and you want to do all this stuff. So it was just an unorthodox thing, but I don't think anyone saw it sliding down to the fifth round. And when he finally was drafted, I think it was a relief for everyone because A, it sucks for the kid. B, it sucks for all the people who are watching it. And C, it sucks for the kid, B, it sucks for all the people who are watching it, and C, it sucked for the media who all said to the viewers that he was going to be a first round pick.

Yeah. I don't feel bad for the media. Yeah. Well, I don't feel bad for the media at all because he was the best thing for the media because the ratings were huge on Saturday. Yeah. Like everybody was watching the draft to see where he was going to go. And usually it's funny, like having a quarterback that's a coach's son, that's usually a check mark in like the good column for people. Not all coaches are Deion, obviously,

and things get run a little bit differently, like you said. So there was a report that the interview with the Giants went really, really poorly. I don't know if you've talked to anybody in the Giants. I don't know how an interview can go that bad because it made it seem like the interview from hell. Like you walked in, double birds, DX, walked out. Like how did that interview go? So I've heard that multiple places and I was listening to Rosilow and McShea last night on McShea's podcast. I got back from the draft and I'm like, I need to like unwind. So what am I going to do? I'm going to listen to more draft talk. And they were recapping it all. And I heard Todd listening at what he heard. And then that was secondhand. And I think a

lot of people said they heard that story, too. I talked to the Giants daily. And I and I'll tell you, I have not heard that if what I have heard is that they love Jackson Dart since January. So like this thing like Dable, like that was his guy. So he loved neighbors last year in the draft and was basically like, that's my guy. And as much as Joe Shane and the staff was with Chador and all that stuff, like, Dable's dude was Dart.

I did not hear anything of an altercation, and I don't know if it was with Dion or Shador, but as someone who's covering it objectively, and I'm, look, I'm not saying there wasn't something because everyone's got different sources, but my contact with the Giants, my conversation with the Giants, that was no such thing, and they actually like Shador a lot. It just wasn't even a debate. It was should or, or dark. And it was dark from pretty much January and table size.

Yeah. It's, it's kind of a crazy story just because I think if he's, he, he's a good quarterback, not a great quarterback. If he was a great quarterback, everyone will put up with whatever comes with it. And it's very funny because the media was complicit in building him up. And then when it's wrong, you could see the media complicit in tearing him down where like, I think I saw it, uh, maybe it was NFL network. They were like, Oh, the Rico case just came out on Chador and it was like a four minute segment about how awful he was in every interview. And this all comes out, you know, after Friday where everyone's trying to

cover their ass being like well this is why we had him as a first rounder and he's not going in the first round so things becomes like a clusterfuck you know yeah and I will say this Tom Pellis Sarah who's a very good reporter there in NFL Network came out with his annual column where it's here's 12,000 words on everything and he had the anonymous quote on Wednesday or Tuesday where it's here's 12,000 words on everything. And he had the anonymous quote on Wednesday or Tuesday, where it was like, it was the worst formal interview I've ever seen. It was anonymous. And everyone's reaction was,

F this anonymous scout and why would Tom post this? And then afterwards it was like, oh, well they tried sullying and bringing him down. But I don't know if Tom's report was then justified because he went in the fifth round or if you really think like Tom's report was so damaging to Shador that I assure you this, a team was not planning on drafting Shador Sanders in the first round and then read a Tom Pelicero column

on nfl.com and said, now wait a second, if a random assistant coach who, who doesn't have his name on this says that it was a bad interview, well then we can't take them. So I almost, I understand where people get very sensitive about that stuff. Tom, it was on his decision to post, to actually use it, not use it. He did, he went for it. And then the guy went in the fifth round and a lot of people said it was because of the interview. And what you said at the beginning is exactly, I what happened is that listen, we're, we're friends with Dion. I think there's a lot of people who are friends with Dion. If she door goes in the first round and you

were someone who was like, he's not a first round quarterback, you're going to, it's it, the backlash is going to be strong. So it's easier to just be like, I think he might be a first round quarterback. We do that too. My hand's up. I'm biased, you know, so that, that plays into it. My first week at ESPN was April and I walked into get up and you know, the topics on get up, which is their morning show in the production meeting is like, should, should, should door go second to the Browns or third to the giants? And I like, I'm like, all right, I'm like, this is my, my new job and these people are awesome. And I am trying to, and like, I kind of go for it and I'm like, this is my new job. And these people are awesome. And I am trying to like, I kind of go for it. And

I'm like, guys, I don't think he necessarily goes in the top 20. And they're like, well, he'll certainly go, at least to the Saints, you know, or he'll go and I'm like, guys, and then Greenberg is looking at me like, really? And I'm like, yeah, this is April 1. I'm like, I don't know, I don't have a team. And I didn't have a team the following week, and I didn't have a team the following week. And then I eventually am know. I don't have a team. And I didn't have a team the following week and I'd have a team the following week. And then I eventually am like, I think Jackson Dart might go

before him. And then it was like, what? So it's this awkward thing where you're like, that the rest of the media wasn't going with it just quite yet. And I'm sure there were others. I think McShea was early on it. Like this, this is not he was going the same. Yeah, and it's it but it's not comfortable because we don't want to be negative. But when you see everyone else in the consensus saying, Oh, he's a second quarterback off the board. If cam ward is the first, like you start questioning your sources,

but I have sources in 32 buildings and I did not have a first round team for Chador up until the draft. I also think that even if the interviews went really, really poorly, like if Dionion was there sitting behind him the whole time, like Belichick's girlfriend being like, we're not answering that question. If Chador was good enough, a team would have taken him the first or second round. Right. The talent is, I mean, you see it all the time. There's character concerns with

a lot of guys who get picked and it's just like, it doesn't matter. No doubt. And I almost think it's not like, you know, the big question is, did Dion cause him to slide? No, Dion did not cause him to slide. This is that if you draft him, you're drafting a player that if he's your starting quarterback, like you said, and you're going all in like something, but as a backup, it's a totally different conversation. So I don't think anyone, they didn't, he didn't have the electric speed or the huge arm or

the winds or the anything to necessarily be a first round pick. And then once you're not a first round pick, then it's like, wait, but there's all that that comes with it. Is he definitely dedicated to being a backup? Because you never want to get into that thing. But it's like, I remember covering when the Eagles brought in Tebow as like the third string and it couldn't last because cameras, whether it's Tebow's fault or not, cameras weren't dealing with

Sam Bradford and Mark Sanchez. It was like, let's go right to Tebow. It's just an uncomfortable situation. I don't think it'll be the case in Cleveland. Maybe it will, but like it, it's a, it's an easier spot to draft someone with that celebrity at first round. I will say this about Belichick's interview Did you guys watch it? Yeah, I just saw the yeah, I thought that was just a regular girlfriend Yeah, like people's girlfriends do it all the time. They're always involved in this. I work I work in television you guys work in media CBS Sunday morning is the The nicest most yeah pleasant. This is not 60 minutes, right? This is not real. This is not 60 minutes.

This is not real sports. It's bullshit, they left it in. Ah, I would say the opposite. No, I, listen. My thought is this. I think you hate love. Yeah. No, no, no, no.

We love Jordan on this show. I'm a romantic, yeah. If that's the version that CBS Sunday Morning did while they're promoting a book for him What was left on the cutting room floor? That's really negative Also Peter you're you're getting Bella checked Wade He's having he's having his Bella check way with you because what's he doing? He's promoting a book, right? Yeah, that clip got so many more impressions

So much more recognition for his book. So smart. He's going to sell a shitload of books. Jordan's so smart. Yeah. I would say that interviewer, Tony from CBS, that was as hard hitting or as straight on and direct an interview I've ever seen with everyone in NFL media

where I'm at. It's always like timidly going around Belichick, and then you laugh at his snap face thing, even though you don't really think it's funny. This guy is just like, so let's talk about Jordan. I'm like, Oh yeah, good journalism. Here we go. All right. So Peter, back to the draft. We always, we always are, are laugh at the draft grades. You don't know. Everyone loves their draft class. Everyone thinks they did a great job. Is there though a team or two that you can point to and be

like, they really like what they were able to do Felt filled a lot of holes and they're gonna you know be able to build off this The Giants have had the roughest Reputational year that a team can imagine with what happened and it was Saquon. It was hard knocks it was also Xavier McKinney going on to about 10 picks and being the best safety in football and It was also Xavier McKinney going on to about 10 picks and being the best safety in football. In a matter of three days, Joe Shane and Brian Dable have completely changed the conversation around this team where every Giants fan is back on board. They're like, let's go.

They did it by getting maybe the best player in this draft in Carter, trading back up and smartly trading back up to where they had to get 24, where if you had done it at 16, you might've had to give up too much. They played the game of chicken perfectly with whoever else might've traded up. Then to get Scataboo and Marcus Bow and to get Alexander, every single position of need that they had, they checked the box. I'm telling you, reputationally, it's the first ray of light since that hard knock stuff aired last summer. And Joe Shane has been a, you know, a punch line in a lot

of places. I think today, like Giants fans, and we're doing this Sunday night are like, you know what? Shane did a pretty good job. Now look, they could go three and 14 and that's that. And we laugh about this, but like at the very least they got impact players at better values than anyone expected. Yeah. And I think the giants, like the strategy of like, before you can be good at everything, you got to be great at one thing and they're going to be very, very difficult to block upfront. Like that,

that that defensive line is going to be a problem. And it's like, you can, if you can build off one great unit, you can start playing competitive football. What other team would you say? You know, it, you can start playing competitive football. What other team would you say? You know, I actually think the 49ers did a really nice job getting back to their basics. This is a team that always prided themselves on defensive line. And over the years, because of attrition, they've lost Armstead, Bosa wasn't what he was last year as he was in recent years. And then they were just like, we're going to beef up on defensive line.

They get, you know, Williams in the 11th pick, but then they had another defensive lineman, they had another defensive lineman. And then if you know that defense, it's like Chris Kucerik is their defensive line coach, he's the one who's always barking and it's like, that is where it all starts for them. So I don't know if any of these guys are going to go on to be all pros, but at the very least Sal Sala and Kosaric like they can get back to basics. They've got this fleet of

defensive linemen that they can put around Nick Bosa. And then their last pick, they got this kid Nathan Rourke, the quarterback is, you know, whatever is a story that if you followed it during the combine, it's one of these long shot stories, like he won't play this year. But like, that's a guy that I, I trust Kyle Shanahan took a guy in the late rounds at quarterback I would bank on that other than More than any other coach in the NFL so they must have seen something in them

Is there a certain pick that you absolutely loved maybe a guy that fell further than you thought they wouldn't it's great value What's your steal of the draft? It's a great question I think yeah, you know I'm not trying to butter up the guy that that we're sitting here with, but like, I was the biggest Colston Loveland fan in the entire NFL draft process. And I thought he might have gone seven to the Jets might have gone eight to the Panthers. Everyone thought it was a reach that he went before Warren. I spoke with Bears people the night of the draft and they were like, it's not like we had Loveland like one and then a huge gap and two. It's like it was one and one A and we didn't know if either

one of them would be there. And then at the end of the day, they're like, what we do is speed and what we need in this offense. This is the guy he's six foot six guys. He is. And he's awesome. Two years ago, and they actually had a quarterback and JJ McCarthy was throwing like he was all over the field. Last year, he was injured and then there was no quarterback play. The fact he goes before Warren raised a lot of eyes, but like, I find it impossible with the hiring of Ben Johnson with a new offensive line with bringing in Joe Tooney with then bringing in this kid and then also having Luther Burden on the outside who, if you saw Ben Johnson's press conference, he was Jameson Williams' high school teammate and Jamo was like to Ben Johnson, like, oh,

this guy's just like me. He's a dog. He's a nut. He's nuts. He's going to be the leader in the locker room. So they have all these new weapons. And like, I think Colston Loveland, I don't know if he's a fantasy guy or not, but I think he makes this Bears offense even scarier So then I give you credit. Okay one What about a late round pick somebody that was taking fifth round or later that that you you expect to do better than you might? Yeah You know you could get I can give you like a random skill position player and be like, I love the pick of this guy. I was shocked that Quinn Ewers went as late as he went to the Dolphins.

I don't know if he's... Because you got Zach Wilson as the backup and you got Tua as the starter, but to get him in the seventh round, that was straight up bizarre. But the kid that the... Okay, so I'm obviously tied in with the Rams and I know those guys really well. And the kid that they were talking about for like days and days with me, and I know they had a Zoom with him the day before, or the Wednesday before, was the running back at an Auburn. Jarquez Hunter is his name. And he's one of these guys that like McVeigh fell in love with. Les Snead went to Auburn. He's an Auburn guy and he's not going to replace Karen Williams, but this is the battering Ram that goes with Karen Williams. And like when I tell you they

acted as if they'd gotten a first round pick on day three when they got this guy. So just knowing my connection to the Rams, I would assure you that Jarquez Hunter is a, is going to play a role and he's a fourth round pick And they were literally doing flips over adding him as a running back to this team That sounds like a guy I'm gonna pick up in fantasy after he scores good touchdowns and then never score. Yeah. Yeah Yeah week two like Williams has a sprained ankle he gets three goal line carries converts all of them and then yeah He doesn't he has the alarm clock issue like graded for the Patriots. Yeah, nothing else. So So yeah, he sounds like a very

interesting pick. I want to talk real quick about your new colleague, Mel Kuyper, just to make sure he's okay. Yeah, is he is Mel okay? Because he, he looked like he's gonna cry a little bit. He said that the NFL has been clueless for 50 years, when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. First of all, is he doing okay? He is. First time I ever worked with Mel Kuiper. I had met him before briefly and obviously grew up watching him. We don't do the same thing. I'm the one who's like, here's what an NFL team told me and he's like, here's what I think of a player. I don't think.

And for the, the amazing luck of him, I don't think Mel lives online or on Twitter. I don't think he saw any of this. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't have kept doing it if you had seen any of it. I don't, and I don't, and I actually think it's really compelling content. As much as you guys want to throw a shoe at me. Like it felt like the one thing the internet all agreed on was that like he And I actually think it's really compelling content as much as you guys want to throw a shoe at me.

I felt like the one thing the internet all agreed on was that he was in the wrong, but I'm sitting there on the broadcast and I'm at the edge of my seat and I'm like, this guy is really passionate about this. And I actually love that because I worked with Daniel Jeremiah for years. I think he's the best and the best guy and you guys know he's amazing. And this year working with Mel and with field Yates and like Lewis Riddick and these guys do the work. Those guys, I've never seen them actually be upset about a draft pick. It's usually

here's what this guy brings. Here's what this guy does. I'll tell you about his game against Ohio State two years ago. And here, this guy's story when he went to Iowa and had to transfer like, and they're amazing at it. And field Yates is like an encyclopedia. I worked with him this week. I'm like hear this guy's story when he went to Iowa and had to transfer like, and they're amazing at it. And field Yates is like an encyclopedia. I worked with him this week. I'm like, this guy's amazing. Mel Kuyper is passionate and like defensive of the players. And I think that's a dying breed. So to me, is he okay? I think he's fine. I think

I actually think it actually brought a lot to the broadcast. Now, whether you thought they focus too much on it, that's another question. But I love the fact that he was actually passionate. And if you think he was, he was wrong, that's a different story. But like, gosh, that added a lot more entertainment value than just hearing, all right, here's what I like about this sixth round pick. Here's what I love about this seventh round pick. They all can't be superstars. And yet you listen to the most of us in the draft thing. We're like, this guy's great. This guy's great. This guy's great. Mel Kuyper is like, what about Chador?

Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean,'re right. Uh, but I should give some context to the listeners. Uh, Schrager is, uh, uh, a stoolie. He's a bar stool fan and one of his favorite people to watch is when, uh, Frank the tank watches Mets games. Schrager will text me live updates. So similar to Frank, the tank watching the Mets game, that's what Mel Kuyper was doing. He was having a complete meltdown alive on air and I agree. It was compelling. I was glued to it. I know a lot of people were glued to it. So credit to Mel. I don't know if he did that on purpose, but I was very entertained. I'll add this. I think he's so in the film and so into like his evaluations that like, I don't think he,

I don't think he's considering like the fact that Shador has a, as a crew filming him and that, you know, might rub some people wrong or that Shador, you know, at an interview, like that stuff doesn't, he's a film guy. So whether it's, and he's like, I've watched every snap of Shador Sanders, his career, like this guy is amazing. This guy is awesome. So like the fact that he was outraged by it, and you saw him listen off the quarterbacks. I freaking loved it. And I hope, I hope he brings that passion back next year. And

I know I sound like I would have said that if I was an NFL network, I would say that if if I was an NFL network, I would have said that if I'm Peter Schrager, an accountant, Peter Schrager, uh, working in a law office somewhere or Peter Schrager, a garbage man. I love that. I thought it was entertaining. And if we don't have that, it's all right. A lot of us Santamona, like, you know, okay, well, what's going on with Chador? Why will I want to, you know, Mel brought the fire. I loved it.

We don't want to see guys reading names off a spreadsheet. You're right. And if you're right or if you're wrong, it made it interesting. Absolutely. And you're right. The good comparison would be Frank the Tank. Yeah. It's like, oh, another team that's going to regret passing on glasses. He would have eaten them. Yeah, he would have. I think he did have glasses. Yeah. What's the check up on that? Peter, what I know we're not critical of teams as much or at least you don't have a lot of relationships, but what was the draft where you're like, that was kind of weird. I don't really understand their strategy. All right. So if you, if you look, if you talk to me like whatever and said the Jaguars are going to trade up to two and the Browns are going to trade down to five, I'm not piling on the Browns at all. I, I, they collected all these picks.

What's crazy is if you look at the entire Jaguars draft class, you say, okay, they got Travis Hunter and they sacrifice and they give them a draft pick. And that's fine. If you look at the entire Browns draft class, they absolutely crushed it. The only oddity is the two quarterbacks. So that steals the headlines. And everyone's like, well, the Browns, what are they thinking? They got Dylan Gabriel, then two rounds later, they draft Shador. But they added starters at like every position

and they picked up a first round pick. So I think the head scratcher, of course, is the two quarterbacks. But talking to them yesterday in real time and then this morning, it's like at 144 and it's the quarterback position and the value is the most important position. Like, all right, we'll take them. But like, if you just ignore the shock and awe of drafting two quarterbacks in, you know, rounds like that, they actually did really well. So to me, my answer is not dodging a bullet. It's just like, I think a lot of people scratch their heads at why would you take another quarterback? But the truth of the matter is it's kind of a luxury pick. They already did clean up and get a lot

of important players. Yeah, no, I kind of agree that if you don't have a quarterback, why not just draft a bunch of quarterbacks and see if one pans out. Your team did it. You had RG3 and then in the fourth round, you took Cousins. Worked out great first. And RG3 was great the fourth round you took Cousins. Worked out great for us.

And RG3 was great the first year. And then Cousins was great for the next couple. Yeah, and with the Vikings. Yeah. But no, but you're right. You're right. I do see the logic behind it, especially if you don't have one. Speaking of Kirk, he was a name that was tossed around a little bit before the draft. Is he going to be traded? Is some team going to make a move trading some picks over?

No move happened. Were there actual calls going out? Was that a possibility leading up to the traded? Is some team going to make a move trading some picks over? No move happened. Were there actual calls going out? Was that a possibility leading up to the draft? There wasn't any real trades. There was a Sam Howell trade which Schefter broke, but there wasn't any of those trades and we had a whole list of names that were going to be traded. I don't think the Steelers are going to make any moves for a bit until they have clarity on Rodgers, obviously. I I would imagine if Roger says no, they might be a team that might be in the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes. But, um, I can't imagine,

I can't imagine the Falcons week one paying Kirk Cousins that salary and having Michael Pennex be the starter. I just don't know where he goes and when, but like if you're the Falcons, you can't have that guy with that salary as much as they say it and this is just me talking. I know the NFL well enough where like that guy's that guy can't be on the run. He's a great teammate and the whole thing and he showed up to spring camp, but you can't be paying him that number to be a backup. Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a report that came out earlier today that Roger Goodell says that he wants 16 international games a year soon. Have you heard anything about that? And have you communicated to Roger Goodell that we do not want the Super Bowl in London? Okay, so let's go through that. So I think

it's not going to all be at once. They're going to build, but they've already established UK can do it. They established Germany can do it. They established Brazil can do it. What he said, which was wild, is he's like, you know, we're thinking about going to Asia. And now I'm like, okay. And what they do is they show up in the city and then it's like, it's a two week event. And it's this flag football, there's all these things like, it's almost like a traveling roadshow. I do think he means it. And that was a real report. And he said it, that, you know, 16 games is not off the table and that that they figured out scheduling wise. And as for London, I can't imagine there's going to be a Super Bowl there. But guess what? If they have 16 games internationally and London becomes a market where there's multiple games a year, it's certainly going gonna be in the conversation, especially with the popularity in the stadiums.

And right now, I don't see it happening in the next two to three, four Super Bowl assignments, but it could happen, absolutely. I didn't think there would ever be more than three international games. They're talking about a full schedule now. And here's what's interesting with that. I worked on Fox's pregame show for years,

and it was like, we'd have crazy ratings I worked on Fox's pregame show for years. And it was like, we'd have crazy ratings at our little kickoff show, which was before the big one. Now it's from 11 to 12 Eastern. But when they would have these international games, nobody watched. You'd rather watch any game than a pregame show talking about the other games. So you'd go over to ESPN or NFL Network, wherever it was.

And those games started started 930 Eastern. It's usually in the fourth quarter when the pregame shows are going on. If you have 16 games, does that, my question is, is that single-handedly crippled the idea of a Sunday pregame show? Like wouldn't you, I feel like most fans, but even if it's Jaguars, Titans, or it's Saints, most fans, you watch the game over hearing what the guys have to say about the games coming up. So I wonder about the windows, the time windows, because if you do a 16 game international schedule, the thought process would be that's another

package you can sell. You could sell that to Netflix. Hey, here's a full season. You can sell it to Amazon and it's the 930 AM early window Eastern. And then it goes games at nine 30 to one games from one to four and then games from four to seven. And then your game at center and it's just all day and it it's kind of cool. But you know, I'm a I'm a I'm a sentimental guy. I would hope to think that those pregame shows still exist, even if there's games in that window. Well, what happens if it's in Asia with the time zones? Because that's that's the other way around. Right. So if you're talking about like Hong Kong, that's exactly 12 hours off where we are right

now. They'd have to figure it out. You play like a Monday morning game and have it and had just have a broadcast Monday night in America? I don't know. Yeah, yeah, they figure it out. I'm sure they're not. I'm sure they're not going to just drop it into whatever time slot they'd figure it out

and we'd work around it. But like, you know, there's gonna be three Christmas games moving forward. There were no Christmas games two years ago. Like, that's, that's what they do. And it's, it's what they're going to be doing. And the schedule is coming out May 14. I'm curious to see some of these windows, some of these games, where who gets. Like I, I'm a geek with this stuff. Like I think schedule release day is I know we all roll our eyes and social media teams. Yeah. Like I find the science behind the schedule and I know the guys who are working

on it. This guy, Mike North, other woman, Charlotte, Carrie, like Ani Bose, these guys, this is once the season ends, this is their full-time job. They are working on every permutation to make sense so that no team feels screwed, but also you get the most maximum eyeballs when possible. So as little as like, does Travis Hunter give the Jaguars more than one prime time game? Like I love that shit. So that's going to be may 14th. And that's where the next milestone, but the international games, we're going to find out when, where, who, and like the matchups coming up. Well, yeah. And Roger's really the next milestone. But the international games, we're going to find out when, where, who, and the matchups

coming up. Well, Aaron Rodgers is holding that up. We were talking to Matt LaFleur last week. He did not know when the Packers would be playing, that they might play in Ireland against the Steelers. But we think that the NFL is waiting to schedule that game until they know who the quarterback and the Steelers is going to be. So when are we going to find out?

Do you have, I don't know if Aaron Rogers has like talked to anybody about what he's doing besides what we've heard on McAfee where he does like 20 minutes and doesn't really say anything. Yeah. This, but it has to happen soon, right? Well, I'll tell you this. He, he did his tour and met with, or spoke with the giants, spoke with the, with the Steelers. He told the Giants, said, hey, look, I'm going to be completely transparent with you. I have no timetable. I don't know when I'm going to know. And I don't know if I'm going to come back. And if that doesn't work with you, totally cool. Move on. No resentment here. I just have to be completely straight up and honest. And he and Dable got along really well. And Dable went back and him and Shane were like, we can't wait on him. They signed

Jamis. They signed Russell Wilson. They drafted a quarterback there on their way. The Steelers approach was the same exact thing. He had an awesome meeting with them. They hit it off. It was great. And they left it as like, okay. And they didn't sign another player. And they left it as like, okay. And they didn't sign another player and they drafted Will Howard in the draft. And now it's Mason Rudolph and Will Howard and they're waiting, but he was transparent with them all along. And I could tell you as of Sunday night when we're recording this, he has not given them any word, whether he's coming or not yet. That's fascinating. Um, all right, shrigs. I got one last question for you. It is the row back question. R H O B C K.com promo code. Take

20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back.com promo code take. So give us one more team where you talk to them and it's like, okay, I understand everyone's excited about their draft, but they really feel like they did it. Cause I like, I do lie. I like getting excited for different teams. You're like, Oh, I understand everyone's excited about their draft, but they really feel like they did it. Cause I like, I do, I like getting excited for different teams. You're like, oh, they felt like I think the Cardinals did really well. Give me a team. Give me another team that you think, you know, who are fine. Okay. I'm going to think about like a fired up coach that I can get the, okay. You know who I'll tell you who's fired up and I would have to even Google like, and you guys can bring it up. I spoke with both guys in Minnesota today and they were at the Timberwolves Lakers game, but the Minnesota Vikings were really fired up about their draft. And I can't even tell,

I think they took Donovan Jackson in the first round, an offensive lineman. Do you have the Minnesota draft class? I would love to go through it because I literally cannot recall who they got in other rounds. And yet both of them were like fired. They got Ty Felton from Maryland. Yeah. Diamond Jackson was their first. I mean, they've really done a good job with their, uh, with their offensive line in the off season. Like I feel like that's what they, maybe that's what it was. If you're a Vikings fan, like they didn't, they didn't go timidly into this thing. They, they had their interests, what they wanted and talking to quasi talking to

O'Connell, like fired up and like we did very well this week. They traded for Sam Howell, right? Oh yeah. They did say that. I don't think that's what's got them doing, but it's nice to have someone, especially with, you know, the coach that they have with Kevin O'Connor, Tampa Bay was fired up Tampa Bay, spoke to those guys, they didn't think that they were going to get a chance to get a buka there and there he lies there at that end. And then let me give you a name of a guy that they were and you could

tell Stephen Che this they were fired up about hold on, I'll get you the name here. Shiloh Sanders. No, David Walker, let's do a little David Walker deep dive here, folks. I don't know what position he plays. I don't know anything. I'm just checking the text here. David Walker, Buccaneers. And this is not embarrassing to me. This is what it is. Okay. Fourth round outside linebacker, David Walker. All right. Former. That's it. This is good radio and good podcasting. David Walker.

That's the guy. Okay. I like that. What about what about one undrafted free agent where you're like, Oh, how did that guy not get picked? Restrepo. Yeah. A lot of Miami. I don't understand. What do you run like a 5240? Maybe. But like that guy, it's a classic case of like, I watched college football. That guy makes a play every single time they throw it to him. Cam Ward loves him and he's going to the Titans. I love that watch. Restrepo is gonna be like the number three receiver and he'll have 60 catches and he'll be a great NFL player.

But like, how does he not get drafted? I don't get it. I know it's a slow 40, big deal. That guy made plays all season long and was the number one guy for that quarterback. So I'm a big Isaiah Restrepo fan. I like that. I'd like to see that Yeah, I want to see like a slow guy really succeed in the NFL. Yeah, be awesome. Yeah, bring back slow guys

Um, all right. Hold on. Yeah said Isaiah Restrepo. It's Xavier Restrepo. That's fine Yeah, we didn't correct you real time. So that's partially Hopefully you guys knew I was so I was so intimidated listening to McShay and Russo because they're watching it in real time And they know everything I like I cover the NFL from a different angle I don't watch a ton of college football So I was like felt so emasculated listening to them being like, oh Neil the running back into Kansas everybody did I'm like, that's a different world. Yeah, I do the draft. That's what I do

But but the stories behind the draft you do very well and we appreciate it. Sorry for keeping you up late You have get up in the morning Congrats on the congrats on the new gig. Tell greenie. I say hello please. Is there a relationship? Do you guys know each other? We're just great friends. Yeah. Tell him PFT said hello. Do that. I actually know you will do that. PFT sends his regards. Yeah, I will do that. I'll tell you a quick story. Yeah. We're driving over to the, uh, to the, to the draft yesterday, Saturday morning. And I did say to Mel Kuyper, I'm like, you know, Mel, I don't know you that well. I'm like, every time you do an interview, it's like you bring the same energy and the same juice, even when it's like local, like Jacksonville ESPN, every time I hear

you, like you always bring it, I'm like, you're so good. It goes, I love doing it. I feel like such an honor still 42 years in. And I'm like, I vaguely remember you doing one with with PMT. Like I love those guys. Do you do you remember it? He goes, is that big cat? I go yes. He goes, he goes, he goes, yeah, yeah, those guys are great. Those guys are great. Big cat. I love big cat. I'm like, all right, there you go. So he, I don't know what year was that?

It was recently. Yeah, I know. We asked him all the questions about the mashed potato on the pizza. That was like 2017, I think. 2018. It was fun. That was the first thing he thought of

when he had it. So there you go. We'll invite him back on. We'll see how it goes after he listens to today's episode. Well, I just hope he's okay. Yeah, I hope he's okay. And you're right, it did make for compelling television. Yeah. And I, I don't think he even knows that like the internet even commenting, which I love it better afterwards. He took

a car back to the hotel and I saw him walking around the lobby and I'm like, all right, he's fine. Yeah, he's doing fine. Uh, all right, Shrinks. Thank you so much. Uh, and we'll hopefully see you and talk to you maybe this summer when we get closer to a training camp and see football. I want to to training camp. Football's back. It's back dude. I want to get back on the bus. Let's go. Yes, let's do it.

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He is on tour. He's in Chicago live in studio. Yeah, all the boys saw you last night the Chicago theater. So you're on a nationwide tour. When did you start the tour? February end of February and you're on a you have a bus like a John Madden bus. Oh I'm on, I'm on Madden mode. It's fucking awesome. So how, how sick is that? It's the best dude. It's like you're living like the, the fanciest train car hobo of all time. Like it's just me and my boys and like, you know, you guys, Eldis is my

best friend. He's my producer on my podcast and my tour manager. So it's just like, I brought my friend, uh, straight George to be the he's like the nutrition liaison. Is that the gay guy? He's actually straight. Okay. He appears gay. So that's where you make it really, you know, straight to a straight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I brought my friend to be the nutritionist. His only qualification was he was really fat in college and he's not fat anymore. Yeah's huge. Yeah, so. That's huge. Wait, now when he got, what was the transition from really fat to skinny? Was it like overnight?

Was it quick? He just, I don't know, something snapped in his head. Like freshman year we met, we were both big boys, we both crushed. We both like bonded over, when you get an unlimited meal plan as a fat kid, did that happen to you at Wisconsin? Oh yeah. Like, cause you know, I was poor and fat as hell, so there were monetary limits to how much I could eat, but when you get that, you swipe it and they're not kicking you out of the-

And the soft serve. Dude, I had soft serve with cereal in it for dessert every meal. I would put Trix in the vanilla soft serve or Captain Crunch every meal. And if they had like an interesting pie or an interesting cake I'm getting a little bit of that also. Yeah, you know what I mean? You would do like I remember being like lunch would be like 15 chicken fingers and then dinner be like oh they got burgers or and there'd be like steak night or lot weirdly lobster night Or some shit and you'd get that and but you'd also just get whatever the fuck like a meatball sub If it was there and you wouldn't like I I know that I didn't go to class a lot like I would read That that was a trick to college either you read the book or you go to class

So I'd pick respect like some of them I'd go to class some of my just would never go and read the book So there'd be days where I would just I'd like go down Eat my meals go back up to my dorm room, and then wait like four hours, then just go back down. Yeah. When it resets. You gotta wait till they refresh the buffet. You didn't do anything in between. Well, you probably played some Halo, FIFA. I watched PTI. Yeah. I was like, oh man, I really worked up an appetite.

Was yours truly unlimited or was it like, did they make you think it was unlimited? Truly. There was a, you could start that way. Yeah, and eventually you figured out you were like wasting some kind of credit Just nothing but bro Just in the beginning to do the damage like I true that was I got so insanely fat Yeah, take the governor when you take the governor of poverty off of like what a fat 19 year old can do to himself It's ugly. Wait, so straight George. I had a question. He got skinny. Did he do the dickhead thing where he got skinny and started taking off his shirt all the time? No. So is he still like a fat guy in his brain? Because that's always like everyone knows that guy. Sure, sure. Yes. What's that? Get skinny. And then

all of a sudden he's got his shirt off. Like he takes shirt off at weddings, takes his shirt off. Like if it's 55 degrees, right? Oh man, I gotta have my shirt off. It's like, dude, shut the fuck up. You were wearing sweatshirts. Yes. Yes. Yes. I remember this. Three years ago, you were a shirt in the pool guy. Right? Like as of this, in this presidential term, right? Don't, don't act like the, you know, brand new right now. No, he's a gentleman. He still, I think he just pointed his eating disorder in the right What direction like he hasn't cured himself? He's just like now about like protein and stuff like that. He would never he's not

He didn't get the he still is a little trapped You can't ever truly escape right a fat kid in your head. You can do really well You know, I feel like I've burst through through it pretty good, but it's always there on some level. You do look good. You look very good. You look awesome. When you were on stage last night, I was like, holy shit, Stavi.

Thank you. You're getting hot on us. I appreciate it. Being that's how you got to set the bar so low that weighing 290 and being 5'7", people are like, Jesus Christ, what are you fucking? You get surgery? You do look good, though.

Thank you. I appreciate it. Do you have any, like, is there any fear deep in your brain that's like, if I get super skinny, I'm not not gonna be funny. Well, I'll never be super skinny. I mean, that's ridiculous I'm never going out sharp than pes dispenser head When like that's that weird shit happens. I'm never going that way I have always said big arms little titties is the goal like not it. That's not no titties That's a little gentleman's titties.

You know what I mean? And like a big, like get some big buys, big tries. That's all I want is like bouncer physique. Like I, people said that. Tony Soprano. Dude, season one Tony Soprano is the hottest man ever that's ever lived, dude. Like, and that's all I want. The girls that wanted to fuck him, that's who I want to fuck me.

That's how I live my life. I'll never, being skinny is also not what am I gonna be a a balding 42 year old skinny guy, right? That's despicable right now is the time to be fat as shit. Yeah, I'm gonna peek in my 40s That's it also like the pendulum is gonna swing back to Like the power of Tony Soprano like that's I think that that actually like, you know We're kind of getting more alpha as a country that might just be the new thing I do think there is a I don't know about the like trends like overall

But in your in my age like you know as a single man in his mid-30s Now is the time where people are getting fat they are getting bald yeah, and they don't know how to deal with it right They're scared you've been I've been here. I'm Bayne and they're And they don't know how to deal with it. Right. They're scared. You've been I've been here. I'm Bane and they're Like I'm breaking their back. Don't worry about the end of that movie just the middle Three-quarters part of when Bane was sick. Wait, do you remember cuz I my promise I I've always had large breasts Do you remember the moment when you were a kid when you realized that you were overweight? Cuz I remember oh wow, you have it. You have a crystallized. I remember going to my friend's pool and uh, my friends asked me, I took my shirt off.

My friends asked me if I could put my hands together and I did that. And my breasts popped and they laughed and I looked down and I was like, what are those? Like I don't see her to my brain. Like I was like, I didn't know I had tits. And from that moment on it was like, cause you know, when you're like, course seven years old, you don't see her to my brain. I was like, oh no, I didn't know I had tits Oh from that moment on it was because you know when you're like course seven years old, you don't fucking know Of course, and then you're gonna wear the shame happen. I was like a true loss of innocence for a little big cat Somebody taught him that somebody's perpetuating fat phobia right there. Yeah, I'm juicy too. They were nice

I'm not built like I'm not a fat guy with tits. All right, I'm a faggot with a big ass belly I keep it pretty that's really what it's the huge spare tire never have I had big ass titties I grew up with people I went to high school with people that had the kind of tits that like He would fuck with people and like take videos of his tits like soapy in gym class and he was like this like light skin guy and he just looked like awesome like Puerto Rican girls titties and then you zoom out and I won't say his name but it was like this Arab kid with fat tits. It was so fucking funny.

What a great joke to do in high school. He literally made people like he would like make you horny and then be like, ha ha ha. You're fucking gay dude. Which is like, I don't know who's really losing there, but it was funny to make someone momentarily covet a man's breast. You were talking about, uh, Costanza last night in your routine. And I saw, there was some episode that came on the other day and Costanza took his shirt off and I looked, I was like, dude, not that at all.

He looks like, yeah, he's looks like a pretty powerful dude. But the whole butt of the joke in that show was like, look at this fat piece of shit. He's such a fat piece of shit. And now there is Newman who's even fatter. Yeah. And also the shortness I think is also- Shortness, bald, loser. You know what I mean? They lock, they lock, you know, they kind of like, he does like, I'm a loser combo. He hits the multiplier. But yes, he is still fat.

He's still, he's not considered not fat. And he just was like a regular guy. That episode where he like takes his shirt off and it's like Kramer's taking the pictures of him and he's like, it's so funny that this guy would have his shirt off. It's like, I would true, like if I got that size, I would be worried. Like to me, that's not a fat guy. Right. But he also has that, that's not a fat guy. Right. But he also has that, he's kind of has a fatter face than he has body.

Yeah, if you go back and watch anything from the 90s, like everybody just went bald and they'd have that like, you know, the real crown of hair around. I'm actually a little upset that I have, obviously I'm not a man who hides his, you know, but I do kind of want to go straight horseshoe someday. So hopefully I keep losing my hair hair so no no no going to Turkey we had a bunch of dudes That's from the office who went to turn. I saw some videos. Yeah, they took they took fans I think we're doing a second version this summer. We're gonna find like the baldest dude we can possibly that's pretty fun But I think you got to just take what the Lord gives you man. I got my shit done last October

How's it September? I only did it because I wanted to keep the long hair right and there's no worse looking like my hair goes down You know we disagree though Philosophically, I'm trying to get the bald pony tail. I'm really trying it I was in I was in something and they made me cut my hair and I was so pissed cuz I was like fuck dude I don't want to have short hair, but I'm growing it back I want to be a bald pony guy. You also should, I've always dreamed of like if I ever got like fully bald, especially the horseshoe,

I would just rock a horrendous toupee and just dare people to say shit. I love, dude, absolutely. There's phases I've planned out for baldness where it's like bald pony I gotta achieve, right? And the clock's ticking because you want to have weird fucked up front hair too, you know? Yeah. And BFD, who are you kidding you would look sick a skull I think that like I think you would look sick with a skull it I think it my face I can't grow a beard either I can get a canary I got a fucked up But you know what it was I was standing in the TSA line behind a guy who was about my height

Oh and about my build and he had long hair like me down to like you know the middle of His back and he was like, I don't know probably two three years past where I was at that point And everybody in the TSI A-line was staring at this dude Yeah, and he had no idea that people were looking at him being like this guy looks terrible, but that's how I was like I resolved at that moment I'm either I'm either cutting it all off sure or I'm gonna keep it long and try to do I Kind of wish I just shaved it all off because no it sucks having long hair sometimes I don't know it is I love the look

I know you mean like it could have been an opportunity for you to kind of go drastic Yeah, something else, but I just think you're you're committed to this bald bald long hair bald like gambling Prognosticator yeah bald pony The way you dress like come on, dude prognosticator yeah bald pony This could have been the next the next phase of PFT you get into like You know plaid suits and like really looking like a fucking down-and-out gambling horse track Yeah, that you got to think about like right now. I'm with you in ten years. You're gonna. Wish you had a ball Yeah, it might go again. I don't know. I've been very diligent about taking my medicine You see a guy with a bald who's bald ponytail and it's like that guy has had something catastrophic It's like like it's like oh, you know, he was a professor at Princeton until something horrendous happened

Yes, he lost all his money in stocks or you know horse, you know racing. It's powerful one way or the other Yeah, cuz it's like he's got a story that energy. Yeah, I got a story that energy everyone All eyes on you brother, and it's like are you man enough to handle that it's like I made it through something That look has never been a boring person exactly just sit down and you're like hey what happened something's up Exactly either. It's the most it's the worst shits ever happened him or he doesn't even realize So like he thinks he's fucking so sad Yeah, right, right what I want to be out of you Danny DeVito and twins you rewatch that movie dude. He's so awesome He's like four foot tall bald pony

Slaying whole my man Left and right and the whole thing is like he's a pussy hound that mistreats women and Arnold Schwarzenegger is like his perfect brother That respects women. It's a great movie But anyway, that's who I want to be one day. Yeah, you pay I would love to do at some point but balding blonde skull it at some point Really get the like trash going I have a lot of designs for my horrible hair So so you said when we were sat down that you've been walking 20,000 steps a day Yeah, is that should, should we credit Frank?

Oh, you know? Is that Frank walks? Are you a Frank walks success story? You know what? I won't hate on, yeah, put me under there. Why not? You did it. Why not?

Let's throw, I'll give Frank the credit. Another success story. Yeah, yeah. I do like that, but I think we got to that idea when you're just in so fucking fat and your body is useless and you like what happened to me Is I kept trying to work out and I would every time just get hurt and I was like, alright man Let me just walk so fucking far. Yeah, I'm too fat to even do like, you know Tricep pulled that like I would just blow something out in my elbow and I would try and you know You try and like lift everything you're like if I'm max out on bench, maybe I will wake up not fat tomorrow

Yeah, like once you're in the gym, but deadlifts are the key to the perfect exactly. Just keep throwing out my back Just fucking walking hunched over And so yeah, I just and I'm on the road too And sometimes it's hard to find a gym or do some research, but I just wake up Walk long as fuck for like to start my day, and that's pretty good It's also like a awesome way to see a city absolutely just be like I'm just gonna walk in a direction and then come back That's exactly what I do is like I might yeah Just go we've been going to like I'll go to like a thrift store or an antique store and try and find like interesting

DVDs you know what I mean we just got we're still looking for gold member we got the other two Austin powers yes we're crushing that on the bus by the way that double play Dennis Rodman and Jean-Claude Van Damme do you know how sad that is that we just said what's like how old we're getting like I'm going to an antique store to find a DVD what the fuck dude the youth this is going to hate this episode This is about losing your hair and going for nice low impact cardio to find outdated forms of media DVDs were just shit

I was talking with someone the other day Remember the 6 months that Laserdiscs had a run where it was just huge DVDs Yeah I caught the very tail It was like this is the tail. I only watched like... It was like, this is the future. Yeah, I only watched Star Wars with that.

And I was like, this is... And I also thought because it was space that it was like connected, that it was like futuristic. And then I never saw them again. So in my head it was like, oh, that's how Star Wars... It just made them smaller. I sat down at the library one day. I was in like fourth grade and the librarian was like,

this is your future children. Everything that you're gonna ever watch is gonna fit on this tiny thin little, it was the size of a record. Right, right, right. It was just a, yeah, a metallic record. They're like, we used the entire school budget on this one machine.

Six months later it was gone. Then there was the milk pouches. Did you guys ever get the milk pouches? Never got milk pouches. Yeah, our cafeteria ladies one day, there was actually, it was a PE class. They're like, okay, we have a video to show you guys because the way milk pouches? Yeah, our cafeteria ladies one day there were actually is a PE class They're like okay We have a video to show you guys because the way that you drink milk in this country is about to change forever

And then they pass around these little bags of milk bags Yeah bag like Capri Sun style Capri Sun style, but like less structured less start you couldn't stand it up on it It was like a plastic pouch of milk and they're like we're not gonna do cartons anymore. You're never gonna drink out of carton ever again It's gonna be these bags of milk. Here's how you stab into it They showed us so whatever you do after you're done drinking it do not blow the pouch back up and then pop it Didn't really work out. In fact, we popped it so much I think every kid across America that they tried to teach the bag milk procedure to just start popping it. Of course. So like, fuck that, we're going back to Cartons.

But in Canada, they just drink out of bags all the time. That's like their style of milk. Like Franzia? Yeah. Exactly. Slap in the bag with some whole milk, bro. Canadian kids, slap in the bag. You could chuck one of those so far too.

You're actually the best. Ooh, that's like a, they gave you a water balloon full of milk. Yes. That's insane. That's crazy. Surely the children will care about their health. Yeah, wait, so what what's the best city you've been to? Oh, dude, I don't know. I mean I love I like I had a great time in Madison your alma mater Obviously, I really look dude. I love Minneapolis Minneapolis It's very great and I caught it with some great weather. Yep. They have incredible food, you know, we got We got insane sushi. This place, Billy

Sushi is incredible. There's lakes right there. The lakes great. The Mississippi River's there, which actually fucked with me because I'm like, that's too far north, little buddy. Get the fuck down. Why are you up here? I love a nice, I truly am a fucking old man, dude. I love a nice on the water walk. It just soothes my brain and I'm just fucking strolling, but yeah, I loved it The food was great. I got a hotel with a sauna and like an outdoor heated pool. Oh, how are you just fucking roasting? I mean truly old the European man activities, but I loved it. Yeah, the dreamboat tour dreamboat tour Yep, the show Minneapolis was great, too. So are you you're not taking any flights bro? I've take I'm doing like 50 cities

I've been on a plane four times. I'll be on a plane four times total so what was the longest drive you've done We did like from Vancouver to like fucking Somewhere in Southern California remember Fresno or some shit wait suck dick by one of the worst places of all time I got sick. I was Fresno suck so much dick dude I was working out at the I go to the gym and there's a guy just Clipping his toenails just outside just like on a bench, bro There's people like it going to squash cords go and it's just like the guy just like staring you dead in the eye not Not like embarrassed whatsoever and it seemed like a guy so we're were not quite homeless, but not homeless. You know what I mean? These are guys that get access to a house maybe 12 days out of the month,

and they were taking up their time at a gym in Fresno, but I think I got low grade, some kind of flu just working out there. That city sucks dick, Bakersfield, also kind of sucks dick, but was fun. Fun shows there. Well, you know also kind of sucks dick but was fun fun shows Well, you know, I mean the in Inland, California like you never hear anything about it. So yeah Hey, what's going on over there? They they would rather you not know. Yeah Yeah, I just that that that image of them of that like fucking Possibly displaced man clipping his toenails by a fucking lat pull-down machine will stick with me wait so so yeah I was like 18 hour drive. What was the decision because most like comedians

I feel like when they do a big tour like this they go home During the yeah, then they go back out and you're like I just want to be out So you're how many how many months are you gonna be away from home? Like two and a half total Wow yeah, it's a lot I mean it's a lot But I also like I kind of just wanted first of all Madden style You know what I mean? Yeah DVD player. I got my snacks You know what I'm saying? Like I'm trying to be healthy. I got the bed in the back got the bed

We got no I sleep in a little cubby. No way. I love the cubby. I don't have the star I'm a man of the people there's no cubby is actually nice You feel like you feel like a little bit like it's like when you were a baby and your parents would take you to the car To make you fall asleep. That's what it feels like. I sleep great on there. But it's me and my best friends, it's basically a rolling slumber party. And all of them have families that they're away from. And for me I'm like, isn't this great guys? Can't we just live like this forever?

But it's fun as shit. And yeah, I think it just costs a lot of money. But dude, I just want it to be fun. I'm just trying to have a good time. And I'm also trying to be less fat. Like, if I, every other tour I would gain maybe 40 pounds, and I was like, if that happens again, I'm going to die like fast.

Like, it's gonna be like a matter of like five years if I keep gaining weight. So that's why I was like, we're getting the bus. I literally like, I bought a hot plate, and I was legitimately cooking like chicken like a fucking like divorced man on like a like camp burner on the bus in New Orleans. It was raining and I was like, if I leave,

it stopped raining and then my friends were like, let's go out for a walk. I was like, if I leave, I'm getting like four po' boys. So I'm staying in the bus, cooking the saddest chicken like divorced dad, chicken and like beans from a can and just like eating it on like a, you know, a hugely successful, like a 50 city tour of like 2500 seat theaters. I'm fucking eating like a divorced guy. Do you have a TV on there? Brother, we got, we got, the setup is awesome because it's a bus, right? And it's like,

it's like a bench on one side, bench on the other side, like passenger and driver side, facing each other. You have a TV on either side. So we're standing like this, we're both watching TV. You're watching TV together. I'm looking at my boy, look at Chuck Norris take down David Carradine. You know what I mean? It's the best, dude. I'm drinking zero sugar root beers. I'm I'm gotten very into regional diet sodas Yeah, shout out to great pico Tastes like syrup like you are Frank No, he's a he's a soda like reviewer oh

He'll chill if you give him I gotta talk to I gotta get in here with Frank cuz I'm peripherally I love what I see from Frank I love how pissed off he gets at things that should not you know really affect a grown man that much I love to see that kind of passion and I love him walking. Yeah, I didn't know he was a so Somalia you could give him a food and he'll tell he'll pair it with the soda. Oh my god Yeah, is he a diet guy now that he's healthier? Ah, he doesn't know he likes sugar I think it's just more less cuz I think there was a time when he was like 15 a day. God Yeah, so yeah, no, we got maybe I can be diet Frank, dude

Yeah, I could be the diet the diet because I love Listen how much time you guys got seven ups got a new tropical that they're doing really good. Really? You should check it out. But yeah, I'm drinking my diet sodas, protein bars, all that kind of shit. What are your favorite diet sodas? Because I think the Diet of Rootbeers are pretty good. Diet of Rootbeers, great. There's a Dr. Brown's Cream Soda that's a diet that's very good. Very good stuff.

Everyone's going to hate this episode. This is Diet of Rootbeers soda. What's that? There's a... and I'm not stopping, by the, there's a cherry, there's a cherry seven up they just came out with that I really enjoy. So yeah, wild cherry Pepsi. Classic. I remember that.

Oh, my favorite. That's a good, that's back baby. They got a cream version, which I don't like as much, but yeah, I'm telling you brother, I've been, I've been, that's my only vice is left because I've been sober half the time. Dude, I've been, I've like, I'm having some diet sodas for sure. Wait, what do you mean sober half the time dude. I've been I'm like I'm having some diet sodas for sure Wait, what do you mean sober half the time? I'll be so hard not to smoke weed, dude Yeah, it's so cuz you're not you're not sober you literally we were gonna do today I'm six and you text me like hey, can I come at seven? I got high and I got to watch rush hour

Came on to be I was literally I was like about to put my shoes on and rush hour came on and I was like fuck I just had some lamb I'm pretty high I don't want to get up and I texted you I was like dude I gotta watch rush hour and I own it on like two other streamers but I watch it on Tubi with the commercial it comes on naturally there's nothing better so good dude it feels incredible good you're as natural feels incredible. Catch a good fella's natural? Oh, it's the best. Oh, it's the best. You're half Frank and half Mince.

Yeah. Yeah. Mincey's sober is what we call him. Oh, yeah. Good clean living. Oh, dude. Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from Kush. Kush will make you snack, but when you do a show and it's late as fuck and you're amped

up, it's so unnatural for people to be cheering for you, and you feel like you haven't accomplished anything, and then 2,000 people are like, ah! And then you gotta go to bed. And then you gotta go to bed, it's like, come on. Smoke a little kush, it's not the end of the world. What do you do right after a show?

Not nothing crazy. Dude, I used to go out I used to like, you know Maybe go to a bar or something or get like a crazy go to a cool like diner or something Like I'm boring this tour cuz I'm trying to stay alive So I'm just like in the green room this stay alive. So it really is. I'm trying to stay alive so bad, dude See, yeah, let's see it. Let's see our 70s the tour Let's make it to say least 71, the tour. But I don't do shit, dude.

I hang out. I have a yogurt, maybe a protein shake. I get my steps backstage. I'll fucking walk back and forth if I haven't finished my steps. And then we go back and we watch a movie. We hang out. That's pretty much it, dude. It's not glamorous.

That also sounds fun. But that's also- It's pretty much it dude. It's not that also sounds fun. That's also it's being 36 That's the reality like when we go and we do like grit week or we go soup all week and everyone's like you guys must party The whole time. It's like not really. Yeah, like if I did we wouldn't be able to our job course Yeah, I'm dead. I know I it's like maybe the first the like the first the tour We started a casino and we were like gambling all night and I just got and you know I just got sick within like four days, right? So then I realized like fuck I

At certain point you have to put on a show Yeah, be like you have to do a good job people came That's the other thing with theaters like I feel like oh fuck people like made a plan to be here This is like a shitty comedy club Statues and I know dude, it's so funny. Carpets. There's chandeliers. The end of the tour though, like the end of Super Bowl week we'll go out, like you're

gonna go out at the end of the tour. You're probably close. Well it wraps up, well dude we actually end the tour on like a three casino run. Oh yeah. And then Mother's Day in DC. So I'm gonna just be so wildly hungover for that show. And my mom's probably gonna be there But yeah, we're ending with like some shitty like Eastern seaboard casinos where we are gonna go fucking crazy

I do love the idea somebody buying their mom tickets to stop you show for Mother's Day It's a very specific type of mother I'm interested We have a precocious seven-year-old who's trying to get his mother tickets to my show, hit the DMs with her most recent headshots. Are you watching any of the NBA playoffs? I'm barely watching. That's been the hardest part of this tour actually is that you just kind of you plan these things a year and out in advance and like I didn't get to really enjoy Duke choking. You know what I mean? I know about it I can tell you everything dude it was all I mean I was kind of I like I've done that so much where I like catch games right after

there I'm like oh fuck this games going on because you're I've just been performing every cool sporting event so I'm really I'm just started kind of paying attention again a little bit I'm obviously rooting for the Knicks the Bucks I'm a little you know they're in such a fucking tough spot. I mean, because I love Milwaukee, but I have no true loyalties to it, I'm kind of in let's get Giannis out of there mode. Let's get him to the Knicks. Let's collude.

Come on. Come on. Come on. We got to go Stern style. You know what I mean? Yeah. Enough with to go Stern style. You know what I mean? Yeah enough with the like Gentle commissionering. Yeah, let's fucking pull some fucking stars the big city honest to fucking the Knicks Let's go. I mean Milwaukee had a couple good years where Stavi was a big fan. You were you were supportive

I am not but now you're like I'm still supportive but also now is the time when We got it. We got to cut the loyalty to the team off and do what's best for you, Giannis. That's for you to play for my favorite team. Exactly. Somewhere where I live. Yeah, Greek loyalty for sure, first and foremost. But yeah, I mean, I respect it because I love when you try something cool even though it

seems kind of dumb. Damon Giannis was awesome. That's a great thought experiment. Try it. I mean, the Raven, he could kind of, people were kind of saying that about when we signed Henry, where they're like, this is one of those on paper moves. He's an over 30 running back. And it's like, can you just shut the fuck up and let cool shit happen? Hopefully. And we, so I feel like I went one for two in my life for those things. And I can't be too fucking, you know, I can't be too picky.

You did a, you did a reunion with come town with Adam and Nick. Uh, what, I mean it was, it was hilarious having you guys back together. Were you, was it too like what, what, how to come about? How did it come about that you guys were doing? Because you guys only broke up three years ago. Yeah. So was it too soon? No, it wasn't. I mean, it was awesome to nobody. See, the thing is we didn't really think of it as a reunion. Like everyone. It's like we don't like just like the show. We've never thought about this. Right. It was just that like when it first happened, I think it was good for everybody to kind of do their own thing and like whatever. And we've been on great terms for like almost the whole time.

Like you know, when we first ended, it was a little weird, but like we've been on great terms for like almost the whole time like you know when we first ended it was a little weird but like we've been friends and then it was literally a scheduling thing where I keep we kept saying like I love for you guys to come do the show or like you want to do and then it just before the tour I had to fucking do a bunch of episodes and also I think you know I think Nick once Nick decided he wanted to do his own thing and it was like officially all three of us were going to be separate, it kind of felt like, okay, now it's, it's like, let's, it's not them two doing something. Because Adam wanted to do his own thing with like he, so even though he's still keeping the Adam Friedland show, it's really his now and it's not like a collaboration.

And so we just decided like, let's get together because now the patreon is a pure It's just like what do you call it like an archive, right? So no one really we split that and we were just like well if we're gonna do that We should like have one left We were we were gonna get together and record a five-minute message for the fans But you get on the mics with the fellas and it feels yeah times Yeah, and you just keep it going and then we recorded a little surprise Farewell podcast and then right after we just did my podcast because it felt good. Right.

You know what I mean? So it was just fun. It was just a good time. Yeah. You guys should do a podcast together. Yeah. You'd be really good. People were remarking we have pretty good chemistry.

Yeah. I do like Adam Schro. Do you watch Adam Schro? I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't, at the beginning I didn't watch it that much because again, I didn't want to like steal anything from my old right my old like partners But yeah, it's very good. And when they I love seeing

They they do a really good job of getting very specific people in a very weird context. Yes Oh, and yes, and you get great shit out of that. Yeah. Yeah funny. Wait, so So you did it were you I mean. Were you, I mean the, the reaction probably, I know that you weren't surprised, but it had to feel good. Yeah. Cause like it's a time and place for a lot of people who love that show. Definitely. I count myself in that. Of course. And I get that. I mean like even with a little like distance, I mean, I always loved the show and it's like, you really remember like, damn, we had some great bits. Right.

Like we really, it's funny, we, like you guys, we all, there was like a handful of people that launched like right in that same time. And there is like a weird kinship between like everybody, like we all got too successful undeservedly. Like we're, we're good, but none of us deserve what's happened. No, it's the lightning in the bottom. Right, right time. Yeah, all of us deserve what's happened. No, it's the light. You know what I mean? Like we got right. It's right time. Yeah. All of us. And then PFT and I are like the, you know,

in the like town where everyone starts breaking up and we're like, we're still good, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Desus and Mero break up. Yeah. Come town and break stuff. It all happened pretty quick. Yeah. And we're just like, but we're good. You're the married couple that still fucks inexplicably. Yeah. And everyone's like, fuck these guys. Two times a week. Yeah. Two times a week. I thought Alex and Zafiya were going to make it.

Yeah. But it's true. That, like, 2016, 17, that, like, range. When did you guys start to come down? Right around 2015, maybe? 15, like, that was right before everyone had a podcast. Yes. And it was, like, the last time, because it was, you know, podcasts obviously started

well before that. Sure. Joe Rogan, Bill Simmons, all these guys. So, like, it's not like the last time because it was you know podcast obviously started well before that Joe Logan Bill Simmons all these Guys, so like it's not like we invented podcasting, but I think that was yeah I mean KFC had a you know I was on KFC radio for four years before that KFC was the one who was like Podcasting is a future and he was like dumb idea But like that yeah that 2015 16 17 range where it's like, that was kind of the last time where you could break through unless you have like multiple super bowls or, you know, played a sport or done something.

You're right. We were like, yeah, we're like, it's like when the NFL would draft a guy out of the fucking mines. Yeah. That was us. Yeah. We were just like, Oh yeah, I saw a strong guy pulling, you know, like working on a farm. Let's make him our lineman.

We were just guys. Yeah. He's got media careers. He's a really good plumber. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's strong. Yeah.

But yeah, like I don't think that you could, I think like I say that always because I hate when people have success and they just completely just, Oh my God, they're like luck had nothing to do with it. It's so annoying. It's like, dude, luck had so much to do with it. There's so many people in other generations that are more talented than all of us that just no one will ever hear of and they will die doubting themselves and they just were unlucky and when you were lucky. Yeah you were right. You were right to believe in yourself. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.

But yeah that was the last time where I feel like you could break through as just like idiots that didn't have a ton of Exactly, it could kind of learn it on the fly with the wild thing about come town was you know people say like Tropic Thunder that movie could never get made today. Mm-hmm. They say that shit. So with come town It's like you guys are the podcast that would actually do better today Yeah, like you guys you guys did your shit in the worst times. Yeah, absolutely. People did not like it, man.

Not at all. You're right. I think it actually probably... But you know what? That was the magic of it. Yeah, it's true. Counterculture. Because people now are doing it in a way that's so pathetic. People just trying to be pure trolls.

Our show is like, when you're with your boys And it it's that feeling of like no one's listening Let's say the most fucked up thing that makes us laugh right we were just stupid enough and had nothing going on in our lives We're like let's just put it on a microphone who gives a fuck right we're fucking poor Nick had ringworm I was living in a windowless room. We had nothing we had nothing you could take from us So we were like fucking we'll say the most fucked up shit Yeah, no it was awesome, and And the response was great, dude. It was like... because there's so much weird shit where people think we're not friends

or like... they just don't understand that you just do different creative stuff, but also come down couldn't last forever. It's like you don't want... like the aging, we just spent the first part of this podcast talking about like slow cardio, diet sodas, and how to deal, how to manage male pattern baldness. That's where we are in our lives. You don't want this guy saying fucked up shit.

When you're like old as shit and trying to be a troll, that's sad. Look, that's for a new generation of people to do it. We look, I'm there. That's why a new generation of people to do it. You know what I mean? Like there's probably like 22 year olds, 24 year olds that are doing the come town of today. I don't know what it is because I'm fucking old. You know what I mean? But that's good. But I'll also say that you, you have stayed young at heart and I think that like people who try to shame that always is so funny to me. Like I'll get it a lot where people like

40 year old father of three like grow up. It's like no dude. I don't have to grow up. Yeah. That's the best part of this job. I can literally just be an idiot for the rest of my life. Yeah. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Like I feel like I went pro at hanging out. Yeah. That's what my job is. We have a very good time. You know what I mean? at hanging out. Yeah, that's what my job is. Very. We have a good time. You know what I mean? It's awesome. Just you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like nobody tapped into like, you know, how most sports guys just like hanging out. That's why your show's fun for athletes. Let's put on a tie and talk about sports. I know that's so funny. So funny that nerds that nerds fucking control that. But yeah, but like what does it mean for society? It's like, how about like we, we just want to like

this last week, the color I cheered for as a baby has to beat the color I hated when I was a baby or I'm going to be pissed. That's what it is. That's what sports actually is. Yeah. We, we did it last week. We just started somebody on the team that you chew you cheered for when they were baby They're like a really bad guy. Yeah, then you just find out all the legal reasons why technically they're not that bad Okay for me to like sports fans have had to become legal experts at some point Just cuz someone got into hot water, you know, we were laughing last week We just we decided Archman and can't win the big one in love that fans were getting so mad at us

So yeah, this is what you do with your friends. Yeah. Just like troll your friend. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Your guy sucks. Just mock a child like a strong child. Still like a 20 year old child who could kick our ass. Of course. Of course. You like as a manning though manning. I don't have to respect the child aspect. You're right. Because like he's already royalty. So you're like, yeah, you're a choker. A 14-year-old Manning is like a 50-year-old with a 401k mortgage for sure. You're right. He's set.

That motherfucker's set even if he blows it for sure. And he can't. I've heard actually from sources he can't win the big one. Yeah, the media's talking about it. I actually have some sources at UT, and they were telling me they're really scared. They're looking at the transfer portal for a quarterback. You can quote me on that. Inside sources from the mothership in Austin.

So yeah, the NBA playoffs going on right now. I used to listen to the pipe cast, which was very funny. I miss your sports take. Thanks dude. Yeah. Dude, what breaks my heart is that I've always been a Hoops fanatic. Even when we were first friends, I was totally a Hoops fanatic and I watched the Ravens, but I didn't care that much.

I hate that with age, the NFL is inevitable. It's one day a week and they know that. Where they might fuck up is over stretching themselves. I really believe that. But like, I love hoops more than anything, but I don't... I used to like get fucked... you know, I would go to a show, I would be a comedian in New York trying to make it, I'd have shitty shows till like 11 or 12, I'd come back and catch League Pass. Every night I would watch the West Coast games on the East Coast.

Every single night I would get something fucked up from a deli, and watch like the Kings play the thunder or something Right and when I was watching and I would wake up every morning and look at the highlights of the game The games I didn't want I was like clued into everything But now that I like have shit to do and responsibilities like the NBA needs to be half the games Yeah, and they need to pick like, you know, Wednesday or Thursday and Sunday or something. Yes Yeah own one day of the week. And that's what's so, and I love football, obviously I love the Ravens, but it's like,

I just, why that feel, you can't beat that feeling of like, ah, don't even fucking bother me. I'm going to fucking grill something and I'm going to eat it throughout the day. I'm going to pick it up at an eight pound pork shoulder from 10 a.m. To fucking you know 1130 Yeah, and that's gonna be my day. Don't bother me, and I wish I could do that with hoops I would love like Christmas MLK day I love those days dude where you could just like sit on the couch They have like a bunch of and that's why I am looking forward to I have a couple off days on this run It's just brutal because I have like every single day a different city but on an off day I'm gonna watch some some playoffs but yeah

it breaks my heart that's that basketball is just hard to follow when you have response and every I mean the NFL is just every game matters it really like the NBA I love NBA basketball I love basketball I just can't the regular season I can't like just let me know when the playoffs start and I'll be tuned into every game Yeah, but it's just it was 50 games every game would matter Yeah, every game would actually matter in the standings Yeah, it would have a little juice and I'm one of those guys that I loved the bubble I thought the quality of basketball was good. I thought that it was like that it was you know, it was tournament style

They were like the they were like better rested like I I think they didn't go enough far enough with the in-season tournament I'm like put them in a fucking put him somewhere for a month I like those games and it felt like it kind of fake recreated them it wasn't March Madness but it kind of gives you enough of that placebo of March Madness but I don't know I'm I am worried about like just you know my my, you're right, just your ability to follow the NBA and how meaningless the middle of the year is.

Yeah, what if they did it like the reverse, where they put every team in a bubble, like maybe down Disneyland, and then if you want to leave the bubble, you gotta win. Ooh, that's nice. And so if you lose, I don't know what the punishment would be, but you have to stick around the bubble for like an extra month. OK.

There's just like, you know, big titted women just like out right outside the bubble. Oh, they got a gate set up. And they have just like a line of escorts. Yeah. When you're shooting free throws, you could like peer into the outside or just groupies. Delicious food trucks.

The only problem with that is we just end up having to watch like 50 hornets wizards game. LeBron's out of there. Yoke is gone after day two. We're like, fuck Jordan pool. I think would actually be very motivated. He would be. That's true.

That is true. Yeah. No, I love that idea. We play for freedom. All right. Wait, wait. So when we did do the can't win the big one. Yeah Don't say don't even you fucking his name was put out. Come on, man Fuck you guys. I mean he can't he's gonna do he's fine. But he I'm worried I'd see I'm not I like Lamar Jackson. I like Lamar Jackson. You can hear it in my voice. I really believe it

He's fine. I'm not worried. Here's I'm not worried at all I'm fine The other day I Like you'll never get me on record you motherfuckers. He's fine. Fuck you guys Josh fine Josh Allen Lamar Jackson You couldn't win it either. What about no, I know about say on the list. Hold on. No, he wasn't. Oh, Josh, Alan Lamar, Jack, he couldn't win it either. What about, no, I know about saying on the list. Hold on. No, he wasn't. Oh, well, he's on the list. No, no, no, he's friends. No, the refs. We don't care. When we fucking journal. We don't do that. Listen, wait, you're you, we keep you off of lists. No, but I was thinking about this the other

day and it was kind of a depressing thought because I like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. I like all three of those guys. There's so much fun to watch. Yes. One or two of them is not going to win a soup. Yeah. Well, that's just fucking Bengals. How about we start there? Right. Such a dumb ass dog shit organization. Can't doesn't know how to fucking sign a wide receiver. They don't know how to, I mean these fucking idiots don't know the cat. Like what's your job? Shouldn't there be a guy that knows the cap on the fucking bangles like they do everything so fucking stupid How about we start there one guy plays for the fucking bangles? So it's two one guys out already We got made to the Super Bowl. So it's a 50-50 fucking flu

I know that's the most he'll ever fucking do fuck him and fuck you too It just it just suppressed me because those three guys are such good quarterbacks and it's like, mom's going to win a few more. Maybe, Hey, how about maybe the fucking, you know, maybe it's over. Maybe second half Patrick. Moe's can't win the big one from starting today. Yeah. Patrick Moe's can't win the big one. I listened in 2025. He has proven he can't win. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But it's a press, but I know those guys are awesome. And's like it's the Philip Rivers like where it's like Yeah, that guy was awesome at court it being a quarterback and he wasn't he never went to a soup ball I still the thing about him or the I'll just I mean I the comp I keep making is just Peyton man

He's cooler Peyton Manning. Yeah, he's fucking electric in the regular season and as a fan every every game You're not gonna fuck every game. You want see he's going to do something incredible and like over time just the joy he brings you and by the way he's winning a Super Bowl I'm not worried about it whatsoever he's going to win a Super Bowl but it's like I the value of every Sunday maybe seeing the coolest highlight you've ever seen in your life that's in play and I think over the course of a career, it's equal. It's not better. It's not better, but it's equal and he's going to win one. So don't fucking go to me you motherfuckers. That's a philosophical point. No, I'm just trying to say, what's up with all this rings culture

and we got to fucking win. How about you enjoy your life. Go out and smell the fucking roses every once in a while and enjoy The you know the beauty and the majesty of a fucking incredible highlight You're basically doing the like I I wouldn't even want to win the lottery because your life would get good. It's hard Nobody you know everybody's fucking out to get something from you. I got a good life now. I make a nice living No, yeah, I wouldn't even fuck. I wouldn't even fuck her if she tried living. No, dude, yeah, I wouldn't even fuck. I wouldn't even fuck her if she tried. You know what I mean? I do think I do think the Mars. I think the Ravens are good enough organization where they just keep taking shots. Exactly. Yeah. And he's going to figure it like, look,

he's going to figure it out. It's like, has he been up to his standards? No. But the more cracks you get at it, the better you get at it. It's fine. It should be worse than the regular season. He's great. Figure out a way to be a little bit worse great point. No, that's a good point Yeah, cuz then then he could just be a little bit better right in the post season Everyone's like holy shit team on his back. Yes tired in the playoffs. He's like that was a long fucking Yeah, is he oh, I hate to say this but is he James Harden? Oh, he's not he's way better It's not even fun. He actually lost weight. Yeah, exactly and he was fucking electric this season Yeah, you know what I mean?

The season I was like what and he keeps talking about how he lost like what 15 20 pounds? Yeah, I was like from where also the more he's never fat right now, but he was he looks faster Yeah, faster do you still like do you find yourself still wincing every time he gets hit? Like please don't let that be the big one. I'm terrified of the big one of Core I mean yeah your boys fucking skinny as fuck yeah, but I mean Lamar has had some injuries obviously, but I I am a little scared. I've gotten a little more scared, but I also think I don't think he should be afraid to just open it up a little bit. You know I do think there is something to I Whatever we have to get it like the playoffs again But it's like I would have liked to see a little more Lamar running.

I mean, our running game was legendary, and I do think, I don't know, I'm still fucking pissed with you. I felt bad that you had to do, because we kind of have made you our Ravens fan. Yeah, yeah, you felt bad. No, I was good. Not for what we did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, hold on, hold on.

Go ahead. I am not apologizing for having you on after the do. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, hold on. Hold on. I'm not apologizing good You on after you guys? Did Katie Nolan also used you? For sure and by the way I felt bad for Katie because I Didn't know you're not supposed to curse or like or like they hadn't even talked it out and they were like I guess they were assuming They weren't gonna curse and then you can't have me on after the first guess Yeah, and just and not warned me but no that's that show is fun

But yes, it was really you double dip. I did have to double dip and I wasn't I was expecting to be triumphant I didn't think I thought I'm gonna be fucking celebrating. We're getting winning a fucking Super Bowl What are you gonna do? Yeah fucking tough. Yeah, it could be worse. It could be way worse Like I said, I'm enjoying my life could be the Steelers could be the Browns Yeah, could have to Sean Watson. Exactly. Now you just have Justin Tucker. I don't know anything about that. Man of God. I haven't seen any police reports. I've seen him at mass. Yeah, I've seen him. You know, that's where I've seen him. I haven't. I don't even know what you're even talking about. Listen, if there's a franchise

that's equipped for Justin Tucker, it's the Ravens. You got a fan base that has done, who's basically gotten their JD in Ray Lewis and Terrell Suggs. You're ready. And Ray Rice. You guys have more law degrees than any fan base. Yeah. And the fan base is mostly guys who have represented themselves in court. They represent themselves in their own domestic abuse. It's, it's, it's a, it's a double whammy for, uh, for Justin Tucker. The also started sucking this year. Cause I mean, in hindsight, maybe it makes a little, I think you're getting some emails around that time of year. Yeah. Yeah, they're like Justin put your phone away. Yeah

Yeah, I mean it makes a little sense why the man was nervous I guess yeah But yeah, that is a tough one and you know Disavow yeah, what you know I actually whenever something bad happens I will not pay attention till I have to yeah to so that I have plausible deniability. So I really haven't seen anything. You know what I mean? Start of the season, I will have to wait. This is not me going on record.

I'm not doing it now, like I said. There'll be a time where you'll have to make a statement. I will have to make a statement and it's going to hurt either way, no matter what it is, except I don't even know what I'm talking about. I'll probably make a statement about how excited I am for the Ravens and what a great guy he is. I don't know anything else going on. Are you going to take a vacation this summer?

Like when the tour is over? I think I'm going to go to Greece, yeah. Hell yes. Greece is the best. I'm going to go to Greece. I'm going to try and do some UK shows too while I'm over there. Have you become a celebrity a little bit in Greece or no? I don't think so.

I think comedy is still like a, like we just started getting stand-up comedy in Greece like five years ago. Before there was a lot of like, you know, you know, hitting, hitting little people in the face with pies. That was kind of the level of comedy going around. But I don't think yet, but you know, who knows with, I guess Netflix is international, we got season two of Tires coming up. Oh yeah.

That's going to be fucking awesome. Congrats. That shit got renewed like the day it came out. It got renewed. I mean, I hope. It was really funny. This season's fucking good, man. And we had like an actual budget this time.

Everybody's so, there's so many incredible guest stars. Francis is in it. Francis is in it. He was very funny. We were on the same, on the pilot, we were in the same episode. He was great to work with, but uh, yeah, I think it's, I think it's going to be so good. I'm excited. So hopefully yeah. Tires makes me a celebrity in Greece. Yeah. Cause I would think that would be like, if you just go on vacation in Greece and you're just having women just all over. That'd be nice. I don't

think I'm there. Why not? I don't know, dude. That would be fucking awesome. Yeah. Sign me the fuck up. Yeah, I think any Greek name, if you start getting anything going, they'll like... They fucking celebrate Tom Hanks because his wife is sort of Greek. You know what I mean? There's literally newspapers will track where Tom Hanks vacations. Just because his wife helped produce my big fat Greek wedding.

If I get one more mainstream credit, I think maybe we'll get some free Yiddo and that kind of stuff. What is it about Greece where you don't have to pay your taxes? Just an easy going lifestyle, man. We're very against tattletales. Stop snitching. We're very against snitching. That's a great society. a great Baltimore has that in common

That so, you know, we're just hey who cares man. Just just chill out We're we are a very hanged base society Greek people love like they will just go they'll get coffee for like four hours Like take a nap afterwards. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah's the best. Yeah. Oh, all right. I got one last question row back question RHO B a C k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back comm promo code take I guess this is This is the the draft episode. So what do you think about the Ravens pick? Um, dude, that's how fucking bad That's how like no no you could just you literally could just be like steel Cuz the Ravens always do that yeah, I mean

You're right pro. Oh yes Yeah, deal with the draft. We have the best of like that's the thing that is part of it where I'm like I don't know like Wiggins. I didn't know him. Yeah, love him. Yeah, the guys got two fucking mouthpieces That's what I want to lunatic cornerback who thinks he's like the most the strongest. He's like he's skinny as hell I know he thinks he's the strongest man in the NFL You know what I mean? Like I want kind of an insane cornerback And whoever you're right whoever we whoever we get always steal always EDC knows what the fuck he's doing I feel I mean we have one of the we have the best organization in the NFL

We crush we crush the draft. We're gonna we're gonna load up. We're gonna win the fucking championship this year It's gonna be great. I'm here's my official stance. This kid's a steal He's gonna be he's gonna he's gonna contribute right away. Love it. Okay, it's good confidence. Love it. Appreciate it I hope I hope you do like a you are like a player I hope you guys pick like a character concern guys. You have to answer for him and Kicker first round Then the right then the right wall If you get like some shithead that you're like we got a great locker room great locker

So that's a locker. Yes, why a lot and if's not the locker room, you got the veterans Ray Lewis I got this are gonna come in and do a mentor. Yeah Steve Smith, did you see this? You miss or is there which thing you was one? Oh wait when he was just he was bang Oh, yeah Ravens band. He's the man for that one That's fucking awesome. I mean, that's hilarious He was like tech any you're like sucked by the tuba player and then calling her husband a nerd to his face That's awesome. She was like you rearrange my IUD and he was like noted Noted thank you. I'll put that I'll put that under the file of pussy damage I've caused

All right, we'll stop you're the best you love having you on you Yeah, please come see me at the dream the tail end of the dream boat tour Stavi dot biz for tickets Tire season two comes out. I think June 5th some somewhere around there love it. But yeah, that's all for me It was a great show. Thank you awesome. Nice stand-up comedy. Thank you. I feel really good about it The crowd loved you are chapel rune for guys For guys that look like me, I am Chapel Road. Yes. Oh, fuck.

Okay, let's wrap up. Long show, great show, lots to talk about. We got numbers. We also got... Fuck, he got me. 17. Shane is back from Italy. Shane brought us gifts, but he forgot them.

Shane brought us gifts, but he forgot them. Shane, we want the gifts on Wednesday show. Is that okay? Uh, what? Sure. What do you mean? Oh, I want, I want you to give the gifts when we're taping Wednesday show on Tuesday and we'll get a recap of your Italy trip. Okay. Does that work? Yeah. Okay. He didn't get max anything. Also, did you kill the pope? I did not kill the pope. No. Were you in Italy when the pope died? I was. Oh, I was on a train. Oh, getting out of town. Yeah. I was actually going more towards the the scene of the crime. But oh, they always say no one that did it hangs out around the scene. Yeah. Yeah. All right, numbers?

77. 17. That was one number off from getting the 50-50 raffle tonight. 77. 34. You're never going to get it. So much easier. I thought I said 77.

You have a 50-50 chance. I'll do 36. Jack, did you say a number? Oh, we got to send the lottery. Cooper flag finally declared. Jack, what do you say? 15. 15. Damn, two numbers off. 15. Two numbers off. Three combined numbers off. I'm getting hot. I'm getting hot.

Wizards got it. Sim it again. Let's go. Let's sim it one more time. One more time. Pelicans. One more time. Jazz.

One more time. Jazz. How many times we had to sim it for the bulls to get it? Blazers. Wizards. Wizards. Spurs. Charlotte. Charlotte. Charlotte oh you're cold max have we seen the sixers once sixers there it is all right the next sim is gonna be the one that I actually guaranteed Forget that. Forget that. That doesn't count. Alright. Love you guys. So So So So Thanks for watching!