Pardon My Take - NFL Network's Steve Smith Sr., Billy Football, Rodgers Tears His Achilles + College Football Talk

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Aaron Rodgers season is over. We talk about the wild Monday Night Football game and how the Jets have somehow found a way to be more Jets. Josh Allen played bad and announcers need to stop saying asterisks on wins (00:00:00-00:19:06). College Football recap, Texas is back, the PAC 12 is finally really good, Mel Tucker and more (00:19:06-00:34:28). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Lebron saving Team USA, Trump setting up a feats of strength and Shannon Sharpe misses Skip Bayless (00:34:28-00:51:56). Steve Smith Sr. joins the show to talk about his career, being a dog, what teams he likes this year and a bet is made (00:51:56-01:29:46). Billy Football joins the show to talk us through Monday Night Football and the return of Patrick Mahomes Jr (01:29:46-01:54:55). We finish with Jimbos (01:54:55-02:04:04).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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And Aaron Rogers' season is no more. Possibly his career too. Possibly his career, I have very conflicted feelings about this. I spent whatever it was, 15, 16 years chasing this guy. Finally had made my peace with him. He's in a Jets uniform. He's gone from the NFC North and four plays in Achilles

out something I might have, listen, I might have celebrated in my past life, but I've grown as a man. I genuinely do feel bad for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. So all the years of you tweeting about Aaron Rodgers thinking about him putting all this energy, probably what like 13, 14 years of concentrated hate towards Aaron Rodgers. Yes. Is not as powerful as one week with a New York Jets. It's true. It's crazy.

Yeah. The power of the un luckiness of the New York Jets is unrivaled in professional sports. I feel bad for Mike Greenberg. I don't know if you saw this, but he was having a little party. He had all his friends over. His wife made snacks for everybody. He was wearing an Aaron Rodgers jersey. All his friends, his co-workers. All his friends. His wife made snacks for everybody. He was wearing an Aaron Rogers jersey. All his friends, his co-workers.

All his friends, his best friends in the entire work. He said all my friends, and I was like, wait, that's Damian Woody. I was like, wait, what's going on here? Also Dominic Foxworth. Also Dominic Foxworth. Right. But like, I, he works with him too.

It's more that I was when Greeney said, all my friends are coming over. I was like, oh, this is gonna be great. I'm gonna get to see what Greeney's friends look like. And then, but he just, you know, there's also his wife and his daughter and his dog and his dog. Everybody was there.

The entire green bird clan. Whole crew. It was tough if you're a Jets fan. And I do feel bad for Jets fans as a person who roots for a shitty franchise. Big Cat, you as well with a history of just dog shit quarterbacks. We know how this goes. It's very, very tough for them.

Very sad for Aaron Rodgers. But if I'm in the trust tree, it was also kind of funny. It was very funny. It was kind of funny that they had six months where it's like we finally solved our quarterback situation. We're gonna win the Super Bowl and then four pass attempts in. was it it was for maybe a handoff four Couple pass attempts. Yeah four plays in. It's like well, we're fucked again. Yeah, it's one of those like it's not funny

But it's also a few of jet like it's not funny in the moment because the guys season just ended and it sucks And I do feel bad for Jets fans and Aaron Rogers like I said, but the more time we have away from it, we're like, yeah, this, you can't, you can't script a more ridiculous thing to happen to the Jets who have, have, ridiculous things happen to them. What seems like every single year, they've drafted all these quarterbacks.

None of them have panned out. They finally get a future hall of favor. Their roster is, maybe the best a future hall of favor their roster is Maybe the best quarterback of all time their roster is stacked And he doesn't even complete a pass. Yeah, and you're right ridiculous is probably better word the the the humor comes in just the sheer utter Painful ridiculousness right of the situation It's not real life, but I can't believe that this happened again. There's no chance that it happened again And you have to look at that and just be like, holy shit.

When you say that it couldn't be scripted, there's one person that might just agree with you big cast. That is Daddy Zazlav on Twitter. He should be Zaddy. It's Zaddy Zazlav. He tweeted out about two and a half hours before kickoff. Aaron Rogers is going to tear his Achilles on a rain-drenched MetLife turf in two and a half hours. Crazy. 40 year old quarterback on

rain drenched turf against the best team in football. What could go wrong? Am I right? Now that's okay. That's witchcraft in and of itself. Also, this guy Daddy's has left. Maybe the world's biggest hater. I went back and I looked at some of his old tweets. He just spends all day replying to NFL experts being like, yo, you should kill yourself. Like fuck you bitch. Like very, very aggressive. I like it too.

When we say that the NFL might be scripted, isn't it interesting big cat to know that Twitter nuked his account this morning? Oh. He's been suspended from Twitter. He knew too much for telling too much truth. He knew too much. Tell the truth. I'm just looking at memes face this whole time.

So we do have Billy football on to talk about the jets. Memes, can we get, you weren't on for that. What's going on in your brain? He's scouring at me. I don't know if you guys can see, he's scouring at me. Memes. It's tried to quit last night.

I said you can't quit. He said, I want to quit. I said, no. I tried quitting multiple times. And then I mean, you're on a pit. It's only a matter of time. We pushing you out. We, we, you can't quit. You're fired. What do you guys all match trying to fight? I'm trying to get the mic camera on him. And he's having there been a battle with their hands. Yeah, it was one of the worst days ever as a football fan. You don't think on what was yesterday's date? 9-11. Okay.

As a football fan, as a football fan, it was one of the worst days. Uh, it started off great. 30, 30 yard run for Breeze Hall. It looked awesome. Three snaps in. Is this your way of coping? You're just gonna do that. I'm just gonna do that.

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I'm just gonna do that. I'm just gonna do that. I'm just gonna do that. I don't know where, why it's become a thing that guy, like the announcers are now saying asterix. They did it for the Lions game. Yeah, asterix. Toreco did the asterix for no Kelsey, Chris Jones, then last night they're like, well, asterix, there was tripping on the part, who the fuck cares?

Yeah, did they call it? Did they call it? No, they didn't call it. The jets are one and oh. There's no asterix. You'd rather be one and oh without Aaron Rogers than O and one without Aaron Rogers. Yes. Yeah, so the same old Jets would have lost that game by 50, so there is hope there.

But does it hurt a little more because I obviously had this thought, I'm sure you had this thought? That defense is so fucking good that you even watching the game after Aaron Rogers got hurt, you're like, man, we had a quarterback. The defense is crazy. The Zach Wilson pick though, that was just a reminder. Yeah, Mr. INT. Yeah. They should let Randall Cobb quit.

Yeah. Like Randall, let's be honest, Randall Cobb came to the New York Jets because Aaron Rodgers is there. Like, is he gonna come into work and be like, looking around like what, you guys really do I have to be here? And there was the very funny meme of Randall Cobb seeing Aaron Rodgers go out for the season and it's Sam L Jackson from Django on chain holding a dead Leo de caprio.

Yeah. Like shit. That one that one works. They should let him just walk away be like, okay, we know you don't want to be here. Yeah. So memes are you are you let's go back to you real quick. Are you is it going to be okay? It's not.

I don't know. Okay. It's just going to be real quick. Are you, is it gonna be okay? It's not, but I don't know. It's just gonna be the same as last year now. Fuck. So I have a list of quarterbacks, and we can maybe do the ones that they should call, the ones that we'd be fun to call, and then the ones that they will call that they should not call. Yes. Okay.

So, James, they should call about James. Especially because of the Primetime games. Absolutely, yeah, five James. Yes, they should they should call about Especially because the prime time games absolutely. Yeah, five more Primes for the prime time games alone T-Bo slash cappernick. Yes, they should be fun. Jamell Hill was she doing a bit so it could be the year 2,000 34 and archmaning could go down for the season with an ACL and Jamell will be like cappernick It's actually kind of nice for cappernick because it's like the old Egyptian saying, you die twice, you die when you die and you die the last time someone utters your name.

Yeah. Kaepernick is never gonna die because Jamel Hill, like you said, in 20 years, can be like Kaepernick's out there. Can you imagine though, because Kaepernick he hasn't played in what, six years? Seven years.

Seven years. So he's gonna come back and he's gonna suck ass because he hasn't played football and forever. And then people that hate Kaepernick will be like, see, told you Colin Kaepernick sucks. If you love Colin Kaepernick, if you think he got job by the NFL, you should actually be hoping and praying that he does not get a chance to play anymore. Yeah, if you're a Kaepernick, you should do exactly what you did.

Send out the message that you were open for a trial, but hope they don't call you back. Yeah. Because it's way better for you to just be a question mark forever. Yeah. Then to get out there and like you said, look like you hadn't played an NFL game for seven years. RG3. He suggested himself.

I want to make it clear. That was one of the funniest clips. Yeah. RG3, people missed it on first take this or know what, what is it? First things first. Get up, get up, get up. We've got to get up.

Get up. He was like, yeah, you know, get up. Get up, get up. Yeah. He was like, yeah, you know, they got to go around and call guys and it's not about being in shape. Like in the off season, one of the executives said, like, RG3, we know you're in shape, but you'd be a distraction. And he's like, you're so good, you're so good,

you'd be a distraction. And he just inserted his name into the list of guys that should be called. And everyone on set was like, what the fuck just happened? I would love RG3. I know you listen to the show. You need to go out and make another video where you throw footballs at trees. At a palm tree.

At a palm tree. Have your wife, Greta, say, hey, hit that tree. And then you fucking, you fire a fucking missile into that tree. Knowing RG3, he definitely is trying to have them call him. And he's probably just sending the clip of him racing the the hawk in the Seattle last year. He's had a couple years of film that he could have been. Look, still speed.

Yeah, that was very like it was obviously he played in the NFL, but it's been so long that it's like, yeah, they should call us. Yeah, but we would probably be a distraction. We would be. You know, as in the media circus, that would happen. Yeah, Jake put our press release, PFT and Big Cat will not be fielding calls from the But we would probably be a distraction. We would be. You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what? You know what?

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Big Ben and Philip Rivers. I'm going to combine them as one. Yeah, Philip Rivers. Yes. Philip Rivers. Yes. Big Ben. Big Ben will do the thing where he'll have his agents say, yeah, we got a call, but we decided

not to do it. Yeah. Although maybe not like people were real like they were actually throwing out Matt Ryan Do they not? Remember what we watched last year, but I don't know if Matt Ryan be worse than Zach Wilson I think he would just because their offensive line is a big question mark and you're putting that right back into harm's what he can't move Yeah, Blake Bordles. I like that idea. Yeah, I did I haven't retried he'll probably text. You know, actually he'll probably, when I text him about the Blake of the year, he'll be like, aha, miss this.

Don't want the jets. Yeah. In July. Um, Colt McCoy. Yes. They probably will call Colt McCoy because he's, I don't think he has a job right now. But if you need somebody to win one game for you Colt McCoy. Yes.

Come in there for one week. Uh, Joe Flacco says that he's available to come back. They probably will call Joe Flacco. Yes. Come back. Carson Wentz. I think they will. No. I think they will call him.

Memes. Why not? Memes, you got so many page views out of Carson Wentz last year and my misery, I can't wait for it to happen to you. Do it memes. No. Do it. Why not memes.

No, why not you. We almost won the. No. Do it. Why not, memes? No. Why not, you, memes. We almost won the MVP. He stinks. He's a, what Max A. He's a pussy. He's a mental pussy. But Robert Salad did say this is Zach Wilson's team.

They don't have a plan to bring in a quarterback. I think they probably will bring a quarterback. Yeah, they're definitely going to bring in a quarterback. What about Cam Newton? What happened to Mike White? Cam Newton was bad. Cam Newton's interesting. Yeah, but're definitely gonna bring it in a quarterback. What about Cam Newton? What happened to Mike White? Cam Newton was bad. Cam Newton's interesting. Yeah, but he was on bad Patriots team, bad panther team.

Thank you. They were solid. They held on to the back. They held on to the back. Cam Newton came through. PFC, tell them about the lighthouse. So there's a giant lighthouse. The largest lighthouse in America.

You need to go. I think of you saw it in person. You think I saw it? You do live in the lighthouse. You take back all the disrespect you've been throwing at. I think of you saw it in person. You think I didn't take back all the disrespect you've been throwing it. I like the old lighthouse. The old lighthouse was nice. The new flashy lighthouse is like look at me. Yeah. All right. Last point of a fucking lighthouse. Last thing we do have to talk about Monday night football. Josh Holland was bad. You was. That was not good. That was very bad. It was chaotic Josh. I do think it will, look, I know people get upset at us

because we are biased. He is our friend people, try to do a what about. They're like, well, what about DAC? And you're treatment of Josh Allen. I thought it was obvious why we're biased and we are very open with our bias in general. But if it's not, yeah, we, we, we, we are friends with Josh Allen and not friends with Dac. Either way, Josh Allen played bad last night. He played really bad.

He was, he was careless with the football. His crazy Josh Allen plays are, are, that's what makes Josh Allen, Josh Allen. But if you add in three interceptions, it's a bad performance. The first interception was not bad because it was third and eight. And he just airmailed it. Oh, it's a great art. It was a pun. It was a punt. It pinned him inside the 10 yard line. Other two were bad. The fumble was bad. The fumble was bad. It's like he got it and then he wanted to pitch it forward and then he didn't that he ran into his own guy and fumbled. Then after the game, he was like, I feel like this is the same shit happened to me all over again, same as last

year. That that scared me a little bit. He looked sad. He looked very sad at the end of the game. They know it's like,, it's good say Josh Allen Mac Jones Patrick Mahomes Joe burrow all on one. Yeah, well I was actually doing it another way. I like it. They all laid Mac Jones all of our friends Josh Allen Joe burrow Justin Fields, you know came on the show Kirk cousins. I don't think we caught a win. Jarrick golf. Jarrick golf. Thank you, Jarrick. Jarrick. Baker.

Baker. Okay. We got a couple of wins there. A couple of wins in there. But yeah, it wasn't the best weekend for our friend quarterbacks. It was a bad performance by Josh. And you're right.

Like, if you expect us to be open and completely anti-biased, like bias for you on this program. You got to find another show. Do you think that we're gonna sit here and break down the all-22 and pick apart every, no. As far as I'm concerned, Josh Allen's still much better quarterback than Dak Prescott. Dak had a better week one.

Yes, and I mean, it was his defense, did it? Now we're just, yeah, also, a dark friend of the show, technically. Now, yeah now yeah, yeah We ever told the story how we were supposed to interview him again, and he stood us up. Oh, yeah That's I think we forgot to say that part. Yeah when we talk about it But anyway, Josh was bad. He was bad. That was a bad game for Josh I still think he's a very good quarterback, but

The the interceptions are starting to get a little worrisome. There's been a lot of them and he's got to clean it up and hopefully he does. The, the, the old Josh Allen play that, you know, brought me back was when he was scrambling on third down. It was like third and 15. He was still like 10 yards away from the first down and he tried to jump over a defender. Yeah. But he wasn't even close to the first down.

For no real reason. He said, fuck it. He blacked out. That was like a blackout. He also second year, Josh Allen play. He also played bad against Jets last year. Jets kind of have his number. Whether defense is awesome. There are defenses and credit.

Super Bowl caliber defense credits all the all and he's a core band. All the draft evaluators out there that said Josh Allen couldn't play in the NFL last night. Take a victory last. Yup. That's what you saw on tape. You saw something different. It was at the saw on Tate. Yes, yes.

You saw something different. It was at the start of overtime, did you catch the coin flip big cat? No. So they bring the captains out and they have a special commemorative coin and the official flips it up in the air and he's like, heads, the American flag,

tails is the twin towers. Oh. Is anybody gonna pick the twin towers? No. Like you had to say out loud. Twin towers. Either American flag or twin towers. Is anybody gonna pick the Twin Towers? No. You had to say out loud. Twin Towers. Either American flag or Twin Towers. Is anybody gonna be like, you know what?

I'll take the Twin Towers. It seems like a safe choice. Yeah. Yeah, that's, yeah. There's entrapment at the end of the game. That was entrapment. All right, so yeah, Monday and football. I mean, also great punt return.

Great punt return. Asterix. Asterix on it. The leg whip. I'm sorry, it's good. How do you get a tackle him. It doesn't matter either like you didn't call it you're one-to-no like the people who were who are like oh another game decided by the ref shot up Yeah calls get missed all the time what do we watch and they're in field orange?

Yeah, that game was not decided on the leg trip the game was decided by Josh Allen playing poorly the game was decided by Xavier Gibson Yeah, turning on the burners shut up and the jet defense The game was decided by Josh Allen playing poorly. The game was decided by Xavier Gibson. Yeah. Turning on the burners, shut up. And the Gets defense. Yeah. And the Gets defense, Boeing up. Yeah. Okay.

But either way, incredible theater for a Monday night football game to start the season. Had it all. Had it all. Uh, okay. Let's talk some college football. Let's do some college football talk. Texas is back. Texas back.

Officially officially back. I wanted back. Officially, officially back. I wanted to talk about Texas, but I think the lead story right now is the Pac-12 is the most dominant conference in the country. So they have eight teams in the top 25 right now. Five USC, eight Washington, 12 Utah, 13 Oregon, Oregon States at 16, Colorado's at 18, Washington States at 23, UCLA's at 24.

It's insane to me that the pack 12 has been around for 100 years and they just timed it two years too late. Yeah. Like, if they were, could you imagine if they could go to the right tolders right now and be like, look at what we got. They would probably get a new contract, but they it all fell apart. And now the last season of the pack 12, they finally have just a stack top to bottom. And they'll probably eat themselves alive like they do.

But still, pack 12 football is the best football that's going right now. Yeah, having all this happen like the year before Colorado leaves. When they get they get Deon Sanders, finally Colorado is like a marquee name in college football. I think I think Gus Johnson just lives in Boulder now. Tough timing, very tough timing. And yeah, the, it is top to bottom very strong at the moment.

I doubt that it's gonna be like that at the end of the year. But still, like that's good for them. And they have great quarterbacks. It's fun football to watch. That's the other thing. It's like, it's not just that they're winning. It's very fun football to watch. Did you notice this about the Colorado uniforms?

They don't have captains. They don't have seas on their chest. They have Ls and Ds. I like it. So L is, if you're a leader, Shadour Sanders is a leader. D is if you're a dog. Ah, I like that.

Yeah, Travis Hunter, he's a dog. He's a dog. He's got a D on his chest. No LDs. No LDs. No, we need an LD. What's better? A D.

I'd rather be it. Unless you're, if you're the quarterback, I think you need DL. If you have a D on your chest and you're a quarterback, that means that you're just like, you're a little reckless. Yeah, yeah, you're not a good quarterback. So like there's certain positions, like I think you want to be an L,

if you're a quarterback or maybe like a... Yeah, a linebacker, maybe like a left tackle, maybe even a wide receiver, but if you're a cornerback, if you're a defensive lineman, you want that D. I think if you're a defensive tackle, having an L on your chest might be kind of cool. Yeah, like one guy that's like the leader on the inside. I wouldn't want, I don't want my head russure.

I don't want a kicker with a D. No, or an L. Or an L. I just want a K. Just for the meme ability of a kicker with an L on his chest. That's just asking you to ask later. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Quarterback, a quarterback with a D. This guy's going to make some fucked up decisions. Yes. Yes. Either way though, Pac-12, I think, is the story right now in college football and then Texas being back, which I actually think this is officially Texas being back because like it didn't feel like the memes were so much Texas is back like they just went into Alabama and whoop their ass.

Yeah, it was an ass kick. Like it wasn't some fluke thing like, oh Texas is back. We're gonna get to have fun with it when they lose to like Kansas state. No, I think Texas is just a very good team and Quinnures is a very good quarterback and they they I mean I was there. I was in Tuscaloosa great time, great atmosphere, very loud stadium, which I talked to the guy who we were sitting with. And he said, uh, the, the afternoon games are not as loud because people just expect to win. But then it was a very loud stadium when I was there Saturday

night. And Texas just took it to them. Like they were just better all around. Yeah, they were. And Quint. Yeah, they were. And Quinn, you was a big question about him was like, can he throw a deep ball? Cause his D-pass is week one, not that great. D-passes in the spring game, not that great. He had some questions last year. He threw some sick ass meatballs.

That one that he threw in person, I said when it was in the air, I was like, what the fuck is this? It was, it like touched the sky. Yeah, it was amazing. Amazing. It was a Russian Wilson pass. Yeah, it was like, what the fuck is this? It was, it like touched the sky. Yeah, it was amazing. Amazing. It was a Russian Wilson pass. Yeah. It just like, it was, it came down for a really,

a cloud on it on the ball, went right through like the fog and came down right to his receiver's hands. It was awesome. Texas, I think Texas is gonna be in the college football play of this year. Yeah, I mean, it's, I looked at their schedule, they have obviously Oklahoma and the Red River S out, which is a crazy game, no matter what, you can't really predict that game each year. Yeah, I looked at their schedule. They have obviously Oklahoma and the red river s out, which is a crazy game, no matter what, you can't really predict that game each

year. But besides that, Texas should be easily favored in every game that they play. I know they, I think they go to Lubbock at the end of the season. But I think Texas is so back that they will be in the game. No, they're at home. Oh, okay, even better. Yeah, no, they're only road games left. They gotta go play Dana, at Houston. Baylor is down, kind of a down year for Dana too. Yeah, and then TCU, who's also possibly down. So yeah, their schedule BYU might be the one trap game, just cause those guys are big.

I sprinkled a little future on them winning the title this year. I like it. It might not happen, but I think they're gonna make the playoff. I do too, I think they're very make the playoff. I do too. They're very good. And on the flip side, this did feel different for Alabama just because it's, when Alabama loses, it's usually like even last year when they lost to LSU, that crazy overtime games,

like, oh yeah, this is not Tennessee, the last second field goal. This one, Alabama was just the inferior team on the field on Saturday and I don't understand how Alabama can't get a quarterback. Like, like, Jail Milro and credible athlete, but it just shows you how good Bryce Young is because they couldn't do anything on offense. Yeah, Sabin looked very frustrated.

You know, it looked more frustrated than Sabin. Tommy Reese. Tommy Reese up in the booth on offense. Yeah, Sabin looked very frustrated. You know, it looked more frustrated than Sabin. Tommy Reese. Yeah. Tommy Reese up in the booth on phone. It's just like you watching the game as it progressed. You could feel the Texas was like, this guy can't beat us with the pass. I know he threw one big one when it kind of opened up in the second half, but you could just feel that they couldn't make plays or weren't confident enough in the passing game that they could just keep creeping up, creeping up, creeping up, and not having, I just crazy to me that Alabama, especially with the transfer portal, like if you put Sam Hartman, who's been incredible for Notre Dame, Notre Dame feels very legit, if you put Sam Hartman on Alabama, that team, like their defense

is very good. Of course, it's still got dudes. You're right. But not having a quarterback, and also it probably doesn't help that Alabama went through a stretch there whatever it was three or four years where they had maybe like the greatest 10 wide receivers ever go through that room. It does feel like Sabin it might be slipping a little. This is the lowest they've been ranked and thinking like eight years or something they're 10th now. Yikes. Alabama and in the

crowd felt it too. Like you could kind of hear it. Like when I was at the game, there was people talking to me, like, yeah, we thought this was gonna be a loss. Like even when they beat middle Tennessee week one, you could see that Jalen Milro had a few balls that should have been in herceptions. So I don't know.

He's, I mean, Sabin for all, he's the greatest college coach of all time and he does adapt better than any college coach, but he has to adapt again. You have to have a better quarterback to adapt. Right. Like you can't, you can't adapt your way out of it unless you run the triple options. Yeah, I'm not writing them. I'm not writing them off forever. This version of Alabama is, is not good. Uh, or not good enough to be a college football player. There's still better than like almost every other college football.

But the SEC in general is not looking as dominant as they have. You know what talks about college football this year is the commercials. Oh, I know you're at the game. But if you're watching on TV, there's every two seconds there's a commercial in college football. And then at halftime, which is obviously like spread out all across the country, depending on when the games kick off, you've got an Acho on every channel. And it's crazy. Every time you try to change

the channel, there's there's got an Ocho on every channel. And it's crazy. Every time you try to change the channel, there's a different Ocho spouting nonsense to you. And then it comes back to the game and then it's like kick off commercial, turnover on downs, commercial. It's just too many commercials in the office. It's just the Ocho's are like the riddler. They just say things that you're like, what did you say?

Yeah, you have to like stare at it like a magic eye poster except for your ears instead of figuring out, oh, I think he's talking about a dolphin right now. Oh, yeah, I can hear the dolphin. Other things, Wisconsin obviously lost that sock. I saw that one coming. I mean, if you listen to me on part of my take, or pick him, I said, this game scares the fuck out of me.

Cam Ward is a really good quarterback for Washington State. I will say silver lining, because I probably got ahead of myself. Luke Vickil, a lot of transfers trying to build it back up. They did fight their asses off and they got screwed by a couple calls. Not going to make a complaint, but I like to fight. And I think it's going to be, hey, just transition. Hey, maybe they're not a 10 win team this year, but I still have the ultimate

trust in Luke Vickal overall. Yeah, he's a good coach. He's a great coach. And then Hank was a Nebraska fan for Saturday. Yeah, I was a Nebraska fan. Search for the Big 10 team. One against coach prime. That was a mistake.

Was that a Nebraska bar? People were excited. 11 a.m. kickoff. Place was packed. And then it was just all sadness. Yeah, miss field goal. I mean, that quarterback, one of the worst quarterback performances.

Sims, yeah, he wasn't good at George Tech. He had he had three fumbles, one of which was just a guy in motion coming across when he just hiked it right in like that's as bad as it gets. It was it was a tough tough week is in the brass game, but I respected the passion of the fans because in my head I was like if this was a team that I supported and they have been this bad for this long, I think it's like 22 straight games. They've lost to like an AP ranked opponent or something. I Wouldn't show up so they were there and excited. Yeah, I don't know why the diehard fans. What's it started? They were terrible. Are you scratching the brass golf to list? No, they're number one at the list right now. Oh, okay Who's number two of one? Oh, what's gonna be a week by week right? Who's this week? Michigan State. Oh

Number two of one. Oh, well, it's gonna be a week by week right? Who's this week? Michigan State. Oh Time we should talk about that. So We're going to go by the big 10s. Gedule. I'm just trying to pick the best match up each week and who's sorry? You take it. Yeah, Washington, they got to let all the fact is he is again real rotor because of the buyout or is you should woman sexual harassment Complaint correct. You should you should just go all in on being I'm so happy Mark Dan Tonyos back like this is my guy. I remember all the memories, because I think he is wearing a headset. I think he's back on the field.

What are your thoughts on Coach Tucker as a Michigan State fan? I mean, I think it was a bad report. Oh, which way? I think you just gotta let it play out. I'm not gonna have that. Are you saying, are you saying? I would walk back this day.

Yeah, as a instate fan, Max can give you some good advice on how to. I'll say this. I'll say I'll say I was going with that. I don't know what happened. It does feel weird. The whole thing because I don't really understand non-consensual phone sex for a 34 minute phone call. Right. So I'm not gonna make a judgment, but- That's a lot of words to use on a, like, you imagine having phone sex for that long? Yeah, and he might have acted improperly. The fact that he put himself in that situation

to begin with is crazy. Like, that's just an insane thing. Like, you should have a meltucker if you did have phone sex with her, like, it should stop for someone to be like, what am I doing right now? Yeah, this is nuts. But it should be mentioned too

that Mel Tucker does have a $70 million buyout if he's fired without cause. Yeah, who knows? Or with cause. Who knows without cause? Yeah, who knows what the true story is? Because his explanation seemed to make a little bit of sense, but it's like, also if you're gonna pick one person

to not have phone sex with for 34 minutes. It's probably the rape survivor that comes to college campuses. They hire to come and speak. And speaks about the importance of respecting women on college campuses. That's probably that's at minimum. That's probably like a good thing to keep in the back of your mind. Like maybe I shouldn't do this to this person. Right. If even if it's consensual, bad judgment on Mel Tucker's point.

Yes. Now also, I'm sure that we're still in a perpetual state of waiting for the facts to come out. It seems like she has a legitimate complaint if her side is to be believed to. Right, but it's like, I don't know who's telling the truth. I don't know who's lying. There's no possible way for me to know that. And the buyout does, it needs to at least be mentioned,

as part of the story. It's a huge buyout. If Mel Tucker was winning games right now, would it be different? I don't know. The timing was really strange. Right. To come out when it, when it did another, they are two and oh, so Hank, we'll have a, you'll have a full report on the findings on Friday as a Michigan safe and maybe next Monday. I got to see how this weekend goes. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Dig into it. Also, we, we should mention Desmond Howard. What the people at the bar think.

Desmond Howard on college game day, when he lifted up the folding chair. Yeah. When he was picking Texas at Alabama, he flipped his hat off, picked up the folding chair. That was a great move. Yes. That was a solid move.

But yeah, college football, we got... J.M.U. 2-0 received AP Top 25 vote. There you go. Crazy game against UVA. Yes. Almost had a pick two at the end of the game. The dreaded pick two to cost us the game. Also in the fun belt, Appalachian State and UNC should play every year. Every year. That's such a fun game. No matter what happens, you're going to have a great

time watching this. It's my auto over. Yes. You went to an O on Saturday. I did go to an O. Yeah. Northwestern. Yeah. They on the wind call. Of course. Yeah. Me and Deer Revelle and Solidarity.au and solidarity, not tweeting about Northwestern football. Yeah, it doesn't matter. They play big ads about academic. It's about academics. Not about who you're playing on the football field. I would just hope that both schools have a high graduation rate. Yes. Yes. All right. Anything we miss on college football. I mean, it's great that it's it's well, I think this week's slate is not the best. Also, the lightning delay is like, I don't wanna say, and you know what, say it, can we play through lightning?

Go off, let's play through lightning. You think so? Yeah, that was crazy. Oh, good point, Hank. Well, the fans can opt in, maybe put on the ticket stop being like, if there's a lightning delay, we're gonna keep playing. The games were like, there were games that were in lightning day

for like five hours. Yeah. I don't know. I guess you can play through Lightning if it's in a dome. I think we should just do like a, maybe we just, we just do a poll. Maybe we put it on the ballot for next, next, uh, November when everyone votes for president,

we just be like, will, are they allowed to play through Lightning Delays? Yes or no? Simple ballot question. I mean, if they, a Jets quarterback would definitely get hit by lightning. Oh, 100%. I don't know. I just, if they, a jet's quarterback would definitely get hit by lightning. Oh, 100%. I don't know, I just, maybe it's case by case, but that was a lot of lightning delays.

I feel like you just played through lightning. Global warming. Global warming. That's one way to get the South to be like, yeah, global warming is real. If college football games start to get delayed on a very regular basis, through lightning, yeah.

Then they'll be like, well, we gotta do something about this. Why don't they just have every college football stadium has just like a huge antenna that they can put up when lightning's there and strike that? I like that. Yeah. It's going to also the forensic offensive tracker on the air. Yeah, not good.

Not, not they're behind pace right now. Big time. For is it Brian Forens? Yeah, Brian Forens. To keep his job, he has to average 25 points a game. Correct. And seven wins. And seven wins.

So right now, right now, I think they're averaging what like 22 points a game correct and seven wins and seven wins. So right now right now I think they're averaging what like 22 points a game. Yes. So he's got a lot of work to make up. The good news is for him I think they're playing are they playing Utah State this week? No Utah State was week one those week one who are they playing They only scored 24 points. Yeah, they need to they need to play in somebody that they should beat the shit out of this week They are playing Western Michigan. There you go. So that's, that's my, that's my bet this week. I'm going to take whatever the Iowa team total is. Bet the over on it because for rents is going to keep his guys in. Like he knows in the back of his head.

If it's late in the third quarter, early fourth quarter, they're up by 20 points. He's going to be like, we need to score some more points right now. Yeah, because they also have, they have Penn State next week. And that's going gonna be tough. And then obviously you just circle like the Wisconsin game and the Minnesota game, those just scream 12 to 9. Yeah.

So yeah, he's gotten to the explosion this week for Iowa. It's gotta start making some, making some points out there. All right, let's do hot sea cool throne. It is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Hank is sitting on the chill throne right this second. What is him?

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Hotsey Coolthrone Hank. Um, hotsey is Mike Babcock. Oh, yeah. Explain this to him. So this story was broken by a steam journalist and colleague, uh, Paul Bizonette. Okay. He got a text from a... Dory was broken by a steam journalist and colleague Paul Bisonette. Okay. He got a text from... Missed a net? Paul... Blunch break.

Paul Bisonette on the Spit and Checklist Podcast. He got a text from a player that told him that Mike Babcock was calling players into his office and having him pull up their pictures and he was like showing them on a TV screen and just going through their photos Basically to see like what they were about should we do that? So so he reported on the podcast they talked about it They said you know, we got a text from a player is legitimate source magic. Jake had a cock picture. I got nothing Okay, like on their phones? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, every one of you is on the roll. Show me your phones, and then he was like air playing into the TV and like having them go through pictures. Jesus Christ. So that's what they reported. And then the blue jackets have kind of vehemently, vehemently, whatever. vehemently, yeah.

vehemently come out against the date. A lot of venom. They put out a statement, and they said, while meetings with our players and staff, I asked them to share off their phones family pictures as part of the process of getting to know them better. Why? There was absolutely nothing more to it than that. The way this was portrayed on the spit and chicken podcast was a gross misrepresentation

of those meetings and extremely offensive. Why? So offensive. I don't know like you Mike Babcock is saying that he wanted to get his to know his players better. You know what, you know what you could do? You could just be like, hey, how's your family? Yeah, do you have any? Tell me about your kids.

Yeah, what do you like to do in your spare time? If we ask memes to do that, would just be pictures of Max. Yeah. Max is face looking sad everywhere. You're taking his selfies last night. No. No.

No. No selfie. No selfie. If true, that's such a diabolical thing. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no right there folks. That's a big J journalist. Get him, bitch. Love that, bitch. But I guess after the fact that came out that this wasn't even just in Columbus, like he's done this in the past. That's crazy. I'm definitely on on this chick with side with this. We should get to see Mike Babcock's phone, right? What's on your phone, Mike? Yeah. Show it to the press. Everyone else's pictures, because you had him plug in. So, do you trust this laptop? Show us your DMs, Mike. Yeah. and then my other hot seat was Patrick my homes Oh, yeah, yeah, he had a little fucking a man, right? Yeah, he tweeted a

He tweeted dirt after the Rogers injury. He said hate that man Prank for the best. Mm-hmm. He then edited it. He forgot a comma Man Prank for the best. Yeah fucking a man fucking a comma. Happens to the best man praying for the best. Yeah, fucking a man. Fucking a man. Yeah. Top on the patch, my whole.

He's verified about the edit button. My tweet still stands. Is it still up there? Yeah. Fuck a man. Fucking a man. It's all he's doing. My cool throw.

No, you didn't even say Steph Curry. No, but it was just I fucking I was like, fuck an A man. Clear's that. He hit a three and I was like, fuck an A man. My cool throws USA basketball. Yeah, I had them too. So I have another one if you want to talk about that. No, you can talk about it. LeBron is coming to say the day. Now is this LeBron like when?

Because LeBron in the past has said, but LeBron's taken all the good. He has said like, oh, the slam dunk contest is so awesome. I'm going to do it next year. Yeah. He says now that he's going play on T-MUSA next year. This is just an ultimate future me problem. He's making a promise just to make the promise. It's like Scott's tots. And then next year's gonna come around. He's gonna be like, yeah, but I just got done playing

full NBA season. We went to the playoffs, maybe into the second round. Do I really have to play? You know what it know, you know what's coming to LeBron has recruited everyone. That that was the report. LeBron recruited everyone to come back. Coach K is going to try to get himself in this. He's going to get himself in this.

Steve Kerr. What's his son's name? Nicholas. The it's coach K. That's the first thing I thought of. I was like, Coach K is going to weasel his way in this. We're free. Yeah, they're all, they're all going to, they're all going to get the gang back together and be like,

yeah, here we go. Coach K, coach in the boys up. Then my last chilter on is PS5's. Yes. Yeah, Hank. We have three golf videos coming out this week. We shot them a couple weeks ago. And in the Scramble, we did a four man sub-part in my take scramble. Four of us try to go sub-part.

That's coming out on Thursday in the live chat. If you're in the live chat, commenting we're giving away four PS5's. This is legit. I have one sitting in my house right now. Well, if we hypothetically finish a Yeah, I'm gonna keep it myself. Yeah, I'm it's my ps5 and if I want to give it away or we have to give it away We will I've got one it's on my couch

It takes every ounce of strength to not just play it not to just be like I can't wait to test it I got to test it before I give it out to the people I don't want to give them a broken ps5 and here's the beautiful thing is that when we go subpar on the video, I will take a video of me playing my PS5 in all of your faces. So you guys win either way. Either get a video of us playing our PS5 or four people who comment in the live chat, get a PS5. We can play it though, right?

Like even if we hypothetically don't go under par, me and you can still play our PS5s before we give them away. Yeah, playable. Yeah, game use. Open my PS5 and I've played it. Game use PS5. Yes, because we were gonna go subpar. Yep, yeah.

Okay. Wednesday Thursday Saturday. Part of my take YouTube. Oh, rip it on like that. So what's the order that's coming out? It's a rider cup. Yeah. What are the videos dropping?

Tonight is, or Wednesday night tonight, So which of the order that the coming out of the rider cup? Yeah. What order are the videos dropping? Tonight is, or Wednesday night tonight, Silent Scramble, me and PFT versus Big Cat and Jake. No one's allowed to speak. Mm-hmm. Thursday night, subpart of my takes, Granbull, Saturday speed golf. Which was quite something.

Exhausting. Could be a banger of a video. All of them will, but I think that was the most fun. I think the first one's gonna be great. They're all gonna be great. Yeah, Silent Sc gonna be great. They're all gonna be great. Yeah, sounds great. Yeah, they're all gonna be great. Okay, PFT, your hot seat cool throw.

My hot seat is Travis Kelsey. Ooh. Travis Kelsey is on the hot seat, cause he's been rumored to be actually dating Taylor Swift. Ooh. Remember after he went to their concert, he was like, hey, I was trying to find you, give you my number, turns out they chatted.

Loki, they've actually been seeing each other quite at least with the report said why it was been quietly seeing each other and so Travis obviously on the hot seat for obvious reasons Taylor Swiss fans are fucking insane and this is coming from a guy who had his most recent superfan go to prison for 30 years for bank robberies. Swifties are way more dangerous than the hot kids. Yeah, I would say she's a hollic in Kelly Keys in the same conversation. Probably, probably. And I can't wait for Taylor's next album to come out so we can analyze the lyrics, see which ones are about Travis Kelsey. I think it's going to be 1989. It's going to be a song. It's going to be 1989 reissued, right? The Taylor's version. So it's all old songs,

but I'm going to go through all of them pretend like they're all written about Travis Kelsey. Apparently it makes me an announcement tonight Well, I'm not sure I'm running out the VMAs and she's reportedly making an out tonight That's what if you're over the age of 30. I'm begging you do not watch the VMAs. They make you feel so old Just a constant night of who are these people. Yeah, I Yeah make you feel so old. Just a constant night of who are these people? Yeah. So we'll see. Yeah. That's, I don't want to do that. Okay, who's your cool throne? My cool throne is going to be USA basketball.

Yes. Yes. I understand that. Okay. My hot seat is, first of all, the AWLs, because there are a bunch of sickos and perverts. How many people watch the episode on Monday? There's 100K in less than 12 hours.

So thank you. Hopefully everyone subscribes. Please subscribe. But yeah, you guys are. We're at 150 right now. You guys are perverts. You're perverts, but that's... Subscribe, though. That's really the point is if you enjoy watching us be miserable, please subscribe.

We'll be very miserable this year. Please subscribe. And then my very miserable this year. Yes, please subscribe. And then my other hot seat is Joe Biden because President Trump has declared that he is ready for a fitness test against him. Need this, I need this. I need this. He wrote, I will name the place in the test.

So he gets to decide the test. And it will be a tough one. Nobody will come even close to me. We can also throw some physical activity into it. I just won the Senior Club Championship at a big golf club with many very good players. To do so, you need strength, accuracy, touch, and above all, mental toughness.

Ask Brett Baer a very good golfer. The Wall Street Journal and Fox are damaged goods after they're failed to sink to Monia's push in a stupid $780 million settlement more on I would love to see an NFL Combine for presidents. Yeah, like have them run the 40-yard dash do the three-cold drill broad jump I mean you need to jump wonder like test. What's the one that that um price are that CJ Stroud did bad at the recognition test? Yeah Biden would put up some CJ Stroud type numbers.

They should just play guess who? Yeah. The strength, accuracy, touch, and above all mental toughness. They should play golf at Bedminster. What would Trump shoot like a 71 the other week? Couldn't you just fix this? It says his six handi-cats. I don't understand how the debt ceiling works and everything,

but if you did a pay-per-view, yeah, $50 pay-per-view to decide the next president golf match, I'd feel like we'd be out of debt. What are six handicaps saying? Dementia, Alzheimer's, vertigo, balance, hair, smithering hair, sun. Either way, I'm ready for the physical challenge. I'm ready for the physical challenge.

I would also like to see Hunter Biden and Donald Trump Jr. get into the ring together. Yeah, or Baron. Or Baron. ring together. Yeah, or Baron. Or Baron. Yeah. Okay, so Baron might play on the USA basketball team next year. He's a soccer guy though. How awesome would that be if Baron Trump

was the first overall pick in the NBA draft? That we were right. We were right. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. All right, and then my cool throne is Skip Bayless because Shannon Sharp can't stop calling Stephen A. Smith's skip.

He did it again today. That has to feel so good if you're Skip Bayless. To be like, my ex is just thinking about me all the time. It was so funny because it happened the first week and now we're whatever, two or three weeks into them doing a show together. And you can see how angry Shannon Sharp is at himself when he does it.

Yeah, and it's usually in a moment where he's like upset at Shannon Sharp. Or sorry, where Shannon Sharp is like upset at Stephen A Smith, and it's just in his reflex and when he's pissed off at another guy in Oregon, he just calls him skip. Like if you've ever had a dog, you'll call your next dog by your previous dog's name.

Usually when they're doing something, they shouldn't be doing. Yeah, I mess up my kids' names all the time like that. I'm like, Leroy, get down. Oh, wait, that's Blake. It's when you're mad. they shouldn't be doing. Yeah, I mess up my kids' names all the time like that. I'm like, Leroy, get down. Oh, wait, that's Blake. It's when you're mad. Everything you just said, and you need to stay your last off social media.

Because here's the thing, you just need to stay. Right. That's all right. That's all right. Seven years, bro. It's okay, don't listen to no worry about them children. Don't break that bracelet,

so that's what I'm working for. He's like trying to coach them through. He's like, don't worry. Yeah, just kind of have a long relationship. It's like trying to coach him through. He's like, don't worry. Just kind of a long relationship. It's okay. Is that going to happen out with Skip? Is Keishan going to call? No, Skip would never.

It's not as easy to say like, Steven A. Yeah. Skip just rolls right off the song. Skip. Come on, Skip. Yeah, skip. Either way, that's a big win for Skip, Alice. Yeah.

All right, Jake, finish this off. Hotsy Cool Throw. My hotsy is Brian Dable. Reportedly, he threw a party at his house Saturday night. Oh, who reports this? Michael Kay. Okay. So they all started.

They all started to worry about the Yankees. They lost 40 love. 40 love. Nice. Oh, you're ripping from Frank Tank now? Why? He tweeted that. He's like an homage to the US open, the giants are down to 40 love nice. Oh, you you ripping from Frank the tank now. Why? He tweeted that he's like homage to the US open the the giants are down 40 love. Yep. Uh, so, but the party probably rocked.

Yeah. Also, it's a night game. Yeah. Yeah, they're plenty of time to recover. Yeah. That's fine. Wait, where the players there? I don't know. But I think coach should be allowed to have a party before a game. Losing 40 to nothing is just so much done. Yeah, who do the giants play this week? That's gotta be, I mean, you have to, imagine if they go a couple weeks before. They're at the Cardinals. Oh, okay, so let's get right.

Let's get right. Yeah, yeah, let's get right. Okay. Did you see the videos of the Cardinals? No. So some people put together some compilations of the Cardinals against the commanders. Yes. They I told you after the game Like they were trying to hurt Sam how they really were like that defense is gonna be you don't want to play against the Cardinals defense this year

You might beat them, but they're gonna beat the shit out of that one clip when the guy put Sam howl in a figure Four-way. Yeah, yeah, and just dropped his head with something else. All right, what's your cool throne? I'm like cool thrones the wild meter. So they got your team the Chicago Cubs. They called up the number one prospect. Yes, Pete Crow arm strong. Yes, his mom Was an actress or I don't know was still is the mom in little big league actor I think they're all actors now. I got that. Okay, my apologies. Yep. Uh, please correct that. Yep. Maybe notes app. Yep. She was the mom in Little Big Lee. Yes. She was crazy. She was. Great movie. Would be cooler if she was the mom in rookie of the year. Yeah. But Little Big Lee was also awesome. Oh, I thought the entire time that she was

the mom in the year. The one about the two. That's not that wild. That's not that little bit. Little big league better movie, I think. Yeah, they're a good man. Yeah, yeah. So it's not even that wild. I'm off, not that wild, Jake. I thought it was a sheer. I was looking at the year. If P. Crohr Armstrong was on the twins,

it would be wild meter off the chart. They should trade him to the twins. Yeah, or she should get her IMDs changed to be the mom in rookie the year. The mom in rookie the year. The mom in rookie the year you don't want to mess with her. She threw the stuff that out of the house, right? Or the boyfriend?

Yeah, no, she was a badass bitch. Yeah, she was a girl boss. I like both of them. Yeah. So yeah, both actors. Yeah, no, it's big, big call up, big call up. Comes her, they're fighting. Cubs fill these closing course.

Oh, man, that's a max mutter the other day. He's like, I'm I just these fucking inter podcast things Well, that was when the Eagles were looking bad. Yeah No, it will be hell for you if the Cubs beat the Philly's yeah, no, I it'll be hell worst case scenario of like my whole life Hopefully it's hopefully the Cubs pass the Philly's and we should go to the games. I don't know that why I'm saying that's worse than losing the Super Bowl Not losing the ML last championship or losing to the Celtics are getting no hit in the world series I think it would go to shave your face looking fat the shaving of the face did suck But just as like a team standpoint. I think it would go Super Bowl than this. Yeah, yeah. Although the Celtic sucked too.

I don't know, everything about your life sucks. But it's also like we should have lost the Celtics. The Phillies are better than the Cubs, but which would make it worse if they lost. True, true. But you were also up your up to three to against the... Yeah. You're up three to and you're still up to the Celtic.

And you also had the MVP. I forgot that they were up three to do. We also I also lost Rushmore. Yeah. Yeah. All right, next. Shadow Price Harper, he had a beautiful tribute to 9.11 yesterday. What do you do?

He just tweeted 9.11.01. Yeah, shut up. It's all. Was that better than what was it spaghetti? He just tweeted the date. I think Spaghetti, it's spaghetti Os was on Pearl Harbor day. Yes, they had a cartoon spaghetti. Oh, saluting the American Flies. You also might be thinking of Bryce Hall. Was it Bryce? Oh, no, you are definitely

thinking about it. Oh shit. Yeah. That's even crazier was even alive for that probably not. I think rear ratio to oh, that's why that's where I saw it I saw it because of old Greergy great Twitter follow uh yeah it was Bryce Hall shit alright Bryce Harper I'm sorry you're still a man I mean it was a nice tribute yeah just 9-11-01 not you don't say anything else no yeah it's just there okay let's do our interviews we got Steve Smith and then Billy Football. Before we get Steve Smith, it is time for our interview with Steve Smith and shout out Body Armor.

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you should be in the Hall of Famer. I'll start there. We've had this, this isn't just us pandering to you right now. When you were snubbed a couple of years ago, we said Steve Smith is a bona fide Hall of Famer. This is ridiculous. If you watched him play, you know he was a Hall of years ago, we said, Steve Smith is a bona fide Hall of Famer. This is ridiculous. If you watched him play, you know he was a Hall of Famer. How are you feeling about getting into Kent, which you deserve?

You deserve it. At first, I kind of fell some type of way, but realistically, I think, you know, this is not a candidate answer. It's really a real answer. It's, you know, I'm really, I think it's in God's time and I would say a couple of years ago, I wasn't in a right perspective of mindset, I really appreciated I was more concerned about what I thought I deserved and I see that watching all the other guys that's going in and the guys who are ahead of me that I think deserve it as well.

I'm actually okay. When the time comes, it comes. I want to enjoy it. I don't want to spend my time complaining about what I don't have yet. Or then when I get in there, you know, one of those guys you go, see that's why you can't, but that's why you can't bring somebody's folks in here because see how they act. Right. So I'm actually comfortable. When I get the call, when I get the opportunity, I'm enjoying it, but it's not my time. So just kind of chill with it and enjoy doing the jobs and I've been doing and having fun with that. All right, good answer. That's a good answer.

You were a first-bought Hall of Fame dog, though. You were the original dudes a dog. I did not take that. I agree with you on that one. Yeah. Yeah. If we're making a dog Hall of Fame, who else we got in there?

It's you. You're in the Mount Rushmore of Dogs. A Pidinus Rodman dog. Well, who else did you play with? Who else did you play with? That you're like, that guy's a dog. He matches my energy. There's a ton of guys. I mean, you know, obviously I play with Luke.

I got the opportunity to play with Luke. Thomas Davis. Oh, dog yeah. Man, obviously Torell Suggs, Holody Nata, you know, you know, he doesn't get a lot of credit, but I think the Angelo Williams forward the small running back he was out of Memphis. He ran with passion. John Jonathan Jonathan's store, stewied my dog. I like him. I mean, it's really hard to really

because it's a when you're talking about Mount Rushmore you pick you're picking off people's opinion and other other people Yeah, and let's be honest 20 20 23 people's opinion matter and people's Perspective matter and I think age to the young the young kids don't they don't know history. That's true um and so But I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of fantastic football players Thomas Davis is a guy that doesn't get talked about enough When he he broke his arm and he played in the Super Bowl with like stitches and it looked like a football in his arm Yeah, his forearm was a football Not a lot of people can do that. Yeah, so who in the modern game right now?

If there's a wide receiver out there that you can look at there's none. There's the HUD I like to Smith senior out there and here's what there's a wide receiver out there that you can look at. There's none. There's none. There's no space. Smith senior out there. And here's what. There's a lot of football players out there who looks at when I played this game when I look at my game. I don't want to put. I don't want somebody to say, oh, he reminds me of me because I played a different style of football. Right. And whenever that call comes, I want my name to be called not you know like I'm not Randy Moss Randy Moss isn't me not in the same category but the name's Matt and there are different types of football players in national football league today that are 10 times better than me but there's also the type of way that I play that I'm. Not a lot of guys play that way.

And so that's why I say there is none. Like there's some guys who can run past some people, but there are a lot of players that are going to try to run past people, try to run over linebackers, crack back. First of all, you can't crack back anymore. So crack back on D lineman. The game has changed for the good, but I played in the air and I was taught to play a certain style of football. And that's how I play. And there aren't players playing like that, especially at the Y-receiver position.

Yeah. Yeah. So we have some questions about this upcoming season, but I had a couple more about your career. This is a dumb question, but Utah. What is it about Utah at night? It feels like anytime Utah plays a game at night, they get severe powers and they're able to beat anyone. Can you feel that when you were playing at Utah? It's like, oh, night time, this is our time. We win. So what's funny is we didn't play a lot of night games because we were still in Mount and the West, so we weren't really considered. Urban Meyer comes in and then Kyle, uh, when he hand takes over and we're getting players, we're getting, we're getting some really good players and I, you know, I, I go to

Utah games a lot. I'm on a athletic advisory board. It's so some, some big games. I sit at the house and I watch it at home because when I'm on an athletic advisory board. It's some big games. I sit at the house and I watch it at home because when I'm in the suite or I'm at the game, man, I'm salty when we lose. You don't want to salt these teeth? Smith, no. So when we lost to Oregon State at the Rose Bowl,

me and my first one, we went, bro, we got food and bought the food that we didn't eat it. It was so sombering. And we got on the airplane left the next day, we kind of lifted each other and we were still not over. Yeah, I like that, though. You're a real fan. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I am. So that's why, but I was at the USC game last year when they, uh, the overtime game with camera rising came back.

Yeah, the sun went down. The sun went down. You guys literally like USC look like the best team in the world and the sun went down and Utah was like, oh, yeah, it's our time now. Yeah. Remolence, baby. I love it. At the midnight load, the more you drink, the louder we become. Yeah, so, uh, the Utah crevice. I like that. Yeah, um, yeah, we want to talk a little bit about, about some of your, uh, your greatest hits over the years before we get to the modern day in a fell.

Um, I didn't realize this, but you were teammates with Chad Ocho Sinko, Chad Johnson and community college. What were the two of you like? Did you win every game like 15 and nothing? So a lot of times, you know, I call myself a knucklehead. My group in the inner city of LA Chad was bounced back from Florida. All I would say is our junior college games are extremely interesting. Meetings, practice, games. I would say it was probably everything you would imagine as far as just knuckleheads, right? Just guys that just trying to fill their way. Community

college are about a whole bunch of guys who don't take schools seriously, who have to try to figure it out and have an opportunity to figure it out. And we had a great coach, Coach Robert Taylor, who passed away back in 2008, but Coach Taylor was awesome. He had coach Isaac Bruce actually went to Son Monica Community College as well and went on to Memphis.

So there's been a lot of guys come through the community college before. Second chance you ever went on Netflix. There's a lot of guys that play in community college in LA that went on to do some pretty decent things at the NFL. It was Chad still eating McDonald's back then. Chad will eat McDonald's to his grades. It's crazy. I love that.

It's crazy. He's skinny. He's still so skinny. Yeah, it's nuts. Yeah. Yeah. So you start your career. You go one in 15 with the Panthers.

Then two years later, you're in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Like when you're going through a one in 15 season, are you thinking like, how the fuck do we get out of this hole? And then watching the progress, did you feel it? Step by step, we were like, wait, now we're a real team. Cause one of 15's really bad. That was a really bad team. That's a nice way to say that one of 15 was tragic.

It was tragic though. If you wanna say how you could trick off a rookie year, we were so bad at one of 15. I went to the pro bowl that year. And on the pro bowl team, we scored a touchdown. And I was ready to go out there. And they were like, no, Steve, we scored. Because I was so used to getting scored on.

I just automatically was like, oh, even though the touchdown, so kickoff return. And they were like, no, we scored this kickoff. It's like, oh, have another touchdown. So kickoff return. They were like, no, we scored this kickoff. It's like, oh, my bank. But then you guys build it. And did you feel it in the room? Like, oh, OK, this is like we're putting the pieces together. What was the moment that you're like, this now

is a team that won in 15. That was a totally different team. We're now on the path to something different. Well, you know, that was, that was where the mantra of Keith Pounden, where we got born with sad meals. George Seifert left, where he was, he was, he was let go. Coach John Fox came in, Jack Del Rio. We had a lot of different people on there, on the, on the team, NSH coaches that were from winning organizations.

And so told us how to win. I remember we were in training camp one day and we had like three or four fights, which I was not involved in. Bullshit. No, it was. I really wasn't involved in those. And and coach Fox like kicked us off the field. He was like, that's why y'all were this, you know, blank and he blank. This was when they didn't have,

this is when they didn't have restrictions. So how it led up to it is, we were doing something wrong. So he started practice all over again. When I say start practice all over again, like stretch. And we had to line up and restretch and start, and then so then they started fighting again and then he kicked us all off the field. So it was a, I believe, I may be exaggerating, but it was in Spartan Bern, it was hot. It was probably like a three and a half hour practice

that got cut short, because we had to start all over but I just remember I just remember that and I was like well I've never I've never got we'd never gotten kicked off the field as a team before and it was it was pretty ironic and then you know we go on and start We come to cardiac cacts and we start running the football so a lot, a lot of intel, a lot went on that year. That really showed me, you know, just how unique, how unique football can be if done right. Yeah, we're about on the field moment that season. Where's, was there a point where you were like,

you know, the cardiac cats, like, maybe we just do have a horseshoe shoved up our ass. Maybe we are, like, we're making our own luck. This is a special team we got. So I have a question, how do you run it out with a horseshoe shoved up a ass. Maybe we are, like we're making our own luck. This is a special team we got. So I have a question, how do you run around with a horseshoe shoved up the butt? Very carefully. So what does that say?

You're gonna look like DK Meccaff, you're not gonna be able to turn, just straight ahead. I know you like DK, right? I think you're high on DK this year. Yeah, I like DK. I was up in a training camp with him, so all of me's, he's pretty good, man. He's involvement to a well-rounded receiver.

And I say well-rounded just because, you know, we always see him talking about, everybody talks about his speed, but very few people talk about the craftiness of what he's been doing lately. And I got to see that last training camp. And it really showed me some stuff that he's been doing lately and i got to see that last uh... this training camp and i it really showed me some stuff that he's been working on and i'm pretty i'm pretty excited to see how it up

i play out so let me put one team out there that no one's talking about i think you're believer in this team uh... the box have the box found their quarterback and baker mayfield i wish i could you take those glasses off that was a set up with a little speaker you love baker Baker, aren't you? No

I don't speak of that name and I'll move on John, do you have a quote that you said about Baker Mayfield I want to read for you and maybe you could explain it You said I'm not gonna I'm not gonna explain do you listen do you explain all of The purchases after salvation army I'm not gonna explain. Do you explain all of the purchases after salvation of army? No, you don't. No, I know, that'd be too many. I just didn't know what a three-legged donkey looked like.

Like Baker. Like Baker. That's the look that I'm getting from me right now. All right, so we can cross the bucks off the list. So what would be the team if you- I don't actually like top bolts. I like top bolts. I like top bolts. All right. Is there another team that you actually think like if you're looking at a surprise

team that not a lot of people are talking about right now? Okay. I think the Baltimore Ravens was eight flowers and OBJ. I'm excited about that. Munkin, you know, they got off new offensive coordinator. I tell you one of the things. What are the Minneapolis cults going to do with Jonathan Taylor? I'm interested in that. Miami Dolphins. Their offense got faster. Seattle Seahawks. If they can get a pass rush, generate it. I think they're going to be pretty good. Their second area is bananas, bro. I'm talking about their secondary is very dangerous. Well, and he's not getting a lot of credit,

but that young man, I spoke to him personally. And he feels like he's not getting a credit, he deserves and watching him. I think he's gonna lock down some receivers this year. You're one of the best, you were known as one of the best trash talkers in the game. Would you know when you got on the field that you had someone like your, your, your talking trash, you're like, oh, I'm in their head.

It's over. It's going to be, I'm going to do everything I want today. That's a, I think that's a cool question. A lot of people always associate that with me. And the crazy part that I kind of dislike that people associate that with me is a lot of times, I grew up in the inner city, playing street basketball, street football, right?

And that's just kind of what you did. Also, my mom is one of 13, so I grew up in a huge family. There's living, there's probably about 62 of us living. Geez. And so my mom's side. And so I watch folks play dominoes and spades and keynote. And we're also some grown folks, say some things that were super duper inappropriate. Right?

Yeah. I grew up where the filter in my mom's last name is young in a young family did not exist. We said how we we said what we wanted to say when we wanted to say it and that was a dope that was probably pretty bad for me to hear now as a kid now now I'm a dope because it really made sometimes me saying things on the football field like bro you can't say that to people I told a guy one time I blocked him and he did something and a story actually told me he played college where you know Stuy asked me the question he said you know what did that guy do to it and

I told Stuy I said he was born and Stuy's like and it would you know I just kind of grew up like you just you talk crap and You know sometimes you got a little bit out of hand, but I just kind of high up. No, I love it I mean, we're a trash talk podcast. I think that's part of sports I know yes you guys up. Yeah. Yeah, like why not? It's part of sport. It makes it fun It makes rivalries make sports more fun. So would you know though like you're like, man, I got this guy like this is he can't handle by skill and my trash talking I never really assessed it that way. I would just kind of in my own world It was the right word or politically correct. I was a little different. How about that? Okay, you can go non politically correct

You can go non politically correct. Gidele signs your checks. He can still find you. Yeah. I just I looked back and I wish I didn't say some things because it was kind of like, man, I was kind of rude. Like I've run into people that have told other people like, man, Steve's it, you know, he's an a. Total apologize.

I mean, my favorite was ice upside. Was that off the cuff when you said ice up or did you That was on the car. Yeah, I mean It was straight into the point and it was a masculinity. He was perfect You know why receivers we kind of sit out on that island. So we talk, you know We think about a lot of things. I'm a thinker and I like to have bad analogies good analogies I just kind of go where I'm still yeah Steve Smith has been brought to you by Barstool Bites

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well it's like it list all the receivers that he shut down and i guess you know in a way in a way it's kind of like respectful to you that you're on that list of great receivers listen i i i love revis uh... me and him has talked several times my respect the heck out of i know at the pro i think i thought hall of fame, they had my name on his t-shirts and my one thing to, to, to, to, to someone, sent me a picture of it. I said, well, you need to walk up to a family and tell them, it's this missing. That, that was

the only thing I had. Right. But the fact that they were like, oh, he, he shut me down to one catch five yards. And to be honest, if you're going to sit there and Google that information, and actually it's selective statistics, because I played against them as Baltimore Raven. I played with them when he was with the Tampa Bay Bucket Mears. I recollect more than one catch for five yards. But that's the one that they like to highlight. You just said, change it to Steve Smith's I recollect more than one capsule five yards. But that's the one that they like to highlight on the back. You just said, change it to Steve Smith's senior.

I remember when you changed the name on the back of your jersey to Smith's senior. Yeah. I said at the time, you're just bragging that you had sex. You just want everybody to know that you had sex. So you put senior on the back of your uniform. What was, I'm sure there was something a little bit deeper than that. What was the decision-making? So long story short, my son, you know, Steve Smith Jr. So every person in my family,

their middle name, my boys, so my oldest, my first born, my first name is his middle name. My son, Boston, his middle name is my wife's dad's middle name, which was his dad's first name And so one I had to I saw permission for my first born to ask him was it okay if we named a doose junior but also doose was Significant because at the time my wife got her tubes tied and

We had had a failed adoption and so doose was like our little miracle paper So obviously doose was born through IVF and so it's a big deal for us. Yeah And so is it later part of my of my career and One of my best friends, his name is Alan Beck, the third. And so his dad is Alan and his grandfather, Mr. Beck who passed away, actually married me and my wife. And he's kind of told, showed me through the years

of our friendships that he's got some bills sometimes from his that was his dad's bills and so the senior Smith is really I'm joking, but it's a significance of senior and junior is man. I worked out very hard and and fix my credit man, and so These men's senior credit is over here and these men's senior credit is over here, and these men's juniors credit is over there. So, you know, that's very smart. I'm joking, but I mean, it's some significant, it means something to us, and so that's really why it had nothing to do

with like trying to brag in it, that stuff. It was, you know, we went to a field adoption, that was pretty significant impact on our family and all the, all the stuff that my wife had to do for IVF. Man, it was a big deal. Yeah. How far can you get the inverted brim of your cap? How far can you get it going?

Because you got it, you've, you've gotten pretty significant with it. Has anyone at NFO network been like like, Hey Steve, can you just, you just wear your hat normal? Cause it's getting, I feel like you're going farther and farther, yeah. No, they've asked me, Hey, can you wear a ride or can you not wear it? And it was funny, is that's the part of my deal?

If I'm in a suit, I dress up in a suit. If I'm, you know, if I'm chilling, like what's funny is, that one right here? Yeah, it's, yeah, see, see my, give it a little, yeah, give it even more. Give it even more, see how far you what fun is. That one right here? Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, buddies one time was like, bro, you need to fix your ears when you breath, when you do your brim, it messes up your ears. I actually have small ears. So I took the hat off one time and he goes, oops, sorry. I'm like, here's the.

That's contrast. Talk. Who's your favorite? Who's your favorite wide receiver to watch right now in the in the game? Geez. I would say, you know, I wanted to say, Justin Jefferson, but then I'm super excited to see what Devonta Adams goes back and do.

I love the old heads. And then I don't know how it's possible, but Tyree Hill got faster. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I'm excited to see Zayn Flowers. There's a lot of young guys.

And then obviously here in Carolina, Jonathan Bingo, and it's just a tunnel while receiver, the game has changed so much and while receivers, 1,000 yards is nothing now. You know, it's really in that 12, 13, 114 yards, is where you kind of say, hey, this is a bona fide while receiver, which is crazy. Yeah, does it make you mad ever seeing the rule changes

and how much easier it is for Y receivers to play? Absolutely not you know a lot of young guys think I'm hating um you know they say all the oh has hate. For me I like it because it just gives me an opportunity to go more in depth do better better breakdowns, understand why why I received, we got to open, understand why why receiver did get open. So I'm not jealous of it. I mean, keeps me employed and kind of get to do some of my end depth analysis. I enjoy actually doing. Okay. So off that question and good answer.

What is the one thing about the wide receiver position that casuals don't really understand, whether it be technique, footwork, what it like, we position that casuals don't really understand whether it be technique, footwork, we're not casuals. You were not casuals out there, right? We know that we know ball. But if you were to explain it, what they get wrong the most. Sometimes understanding why or how a guy is running in his route. So there's a lot of little nuances there. You will not know that happened. So there's a lot of little nuances that you will not know that happen. Oh, I received was running a route running the deep over and does it look at the safety. And so now he does look at the safety, which means he gets too quick on

the other side, which now if he gets too quick and it's a sprint out or a play action, that means the spacing is out aligned. And so now he doesn't have to get spacing. And so if the quarterback throws it because of the bad route, or he didn't do an indicator step, then the spacing is bad, then the safety can come down and pick the ball because you gave the lack of good route running, you gave the safety and indicator that you're running across the field

and you didn't use your speed to keep making the safety back pedal. Right. So a lot of little nuances like that that people don't really realize that goes on that I love watching and allows me to assess. Does this guy know really how to run his route for that play and know what the defense is to be able to manipulate because when a speedy wire receiver slows down, you have to know the game from the shoulders up.

When the shoulders down starts to lose a step. And those are the things that I like to watch and try to predict and look at. And the assess to be able to know has a guy, right, like, when I was playing, when I was a young spring ticket man out of 70 plays 50 plays when I give you about 25 30 plays full speed go as I got older and father time started knocking on the door you know when they knock on the door they don't say hey on Tuesday you're gonna lose your speed hell you just wake up on Tuesday, and your speed is a step slower.

And so I learned when I was in Baltimore, man, I probably in Baltimore, I had probably about seven. I'm not lying to you. Seven, a hundred percent full speed routes. The rest of the other plays. Man, I had to manipulate and maneuver through my route because I didn't have the long marathon speed I used to have when I was, you know, when I was 24, 25 years old.

And I was 36, 37, 35, bro. You wake up some days, you're like, man, I would live ways. I would do my chest or my shoulders or my legs. And my back was hurt. Man, that's old age. Yeah, yeah. My, that's old age. Yeah. My back hurting from my last. That doesn't make sense.

So, you know, that's those little things that I like to watch and try to see is a guy starting to take for all. Yeah, that's interesting that you brought that up. I don't think I've heard a player talk about like what percentage of routes they run in a giving game at 100% speed. And it can't be every single one. You can't just sprint. Absolutely.

Full out every time. So if you know that you're not the number, the primary read or the secondary read, let's say you're the third read on this play design, like I have to imagine most guys in the league are taking it easy on that play, right? There's no one that's going full speed all the time. I wouldn't say take it easy, but you're a tempo, right? Because you also, you don't want to run in same speed every round looking the same, because then they start to predict it. So you can change it up.

So, but yeah, you tempo it up. If you, I mean, if you're the decoy, there are some plays where you get a decoy, you got to run through, you got to commit, you got to run with integrity, so you can protect your teammate. So the safety doesn't, if you, if you are lax a day, he's going to route and and the safety picks it up with a corner, he can kind of play in between and quarterback places the ball throws the ball

where he should be. You can get your player laid out. So, you know, everybody got to play their role. It's a complimentary route running. I would be so mad if I, if I was a receiver and I was a decoy route and I just towards the defense and I knew I wasn't getting the ball. That's a wasted rep right there. Yeah, I used to call it killing grass. You just made it with kill grass, but you have to do it because you also have to show

your teammate who's, when you're no more on my receiver like I was, you got to also show that you're willing to sacrifice your routes too so those guys can ball because if you don't Do that they're not gonna do it for you, right? Yeah, that's a good point That's that's a great point. It's a great answer I you also were great at coming back to the ball and like when a play would break down Would you just it was that just instinct guys who have that ability where it's like I can find the little like Travis Kelsey is great at that where if a play breaks down. Yeah, it feels like it feels like what he will always find that little soft spot in the

defense. Is that is that something you learned or was that instinct that you were just better than everyone? You have to learn it is instinct is trial and error also knowing how to read defenses and also knowing where you are in the routes right and knowing you know what your role is you know there are times where you the first progression and there's times where you're the third or fourth progression because you got to let the other guys eat so when the team say hey we're gonna take you away you got to have somebody else that shows up because then they keep then next week that team goes oh we got to take you away. You gotta have somebody else to show us up because then next week that team goes,

oh, we gotta take this guy away. And so that's why Miami can be deadly because they have three or four Y receivers that you have to concern yourself with. You can't just key on one guy. And that's important. That's San Francisco 49ers. With Brandon, I, you and Debo San.

Yeah. Back in your in your playing days, I'm curious to know from your perspective as a wide receiver that because the players always know who the other good players are. Who's one wide receiver that we don't talk about with like Randy Moss, Tio, Ocho Sinko, yourself, like, who's one guy that the players knew? And you know, the mid 2000s was one of the best receivers in the league that didn't get enough credit. One of the best in the league that's it that's a lot I'm not gonna step on that in the

landmine but I'll tell you guys like keeping in my division and see South man Marcus Ghoston bro he was he was a problem to deal with, right? Rodney White was good. Michael Jenkins at that time showed up. How about Alji Franklin? Yeah. What the Atlanta family said. Man, Alji a block year. He wasn't necessarily going to beeched on the foot race,

but he just was creative. He knew how to play the game. You know, a Tampa Bay member was in a, has done count with age, but, man, Joey Galeroy was like 50 years old running a four to, you remember that? He was so fast, yeah. You know, and Juan Bolton, what he was able to do with the Cardinals, alongside our life is Gerald, and then what he did was Baltimore, I mean, a Pirlis price. Remember Pirlis price are Eric Mose when they were both alone.

Yep. And I mean, I can go obviously make a try Roy Williams has some things. Donald Driver was crafty in the slot with Green Bay. Roy Williams. I haven't raised them. I haven't heard people talk about Roy Williams in a while. He was really, really good. Roy Williams had like, he had like all the tools. I thought that dude was gonna be like, all decade. Yeah, that's, that's it. Can't jump to go in too quick now. No, I mean, it was pretty good. Yeah, I got an easy question for you here.

When Cam Newton gets picked to the Panthers and you get that first text from them Are you like? Dude is this really how you text like is this the font that you're gonna use? He wants it so we first got him me to do all the text that way He picked that up later. Yeah, he picked it up later interesting. Yeah, I just I wonder what made him start doing that I think he has he has started his own Text thing, but there's times in the past when he's text me and I've joked with him like can you send me to the coder when you finish? He might have it might have actually been you leaving the Panthers where he's like oh, I know that Steve won't like

Absolutely rip me to shreds in the locker room. I'm free to text however I want to text. Okay. I'm telling you. All right, well, this has been awesome, Steve. I have one last question. It's a rowback question, r-o-b-a-c-k-k.com, promo code take, 20% off your first purchase, Q-zips, polo, sodis, joggers, shorts, everything rowback.com, promo code take. Do you have a Super Bowl pick for us? Do you have a

Super Bowl and a champion? No, I don't. I do not. You can be wrong. You can be wrong and we'll just edit it out. Don't worry. No, I bet I first of all, I have done the interview with a man with sunglasses on the whole damn time. I ain't trusting y'all to end. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. What about a team that you that didn't make the playoffs last year? It's gonna make the playoffs this year. I ain't trusting y'all to him. Okay, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair, that's fair. What about a team that you, that didn't make the playoffs last year? It's gonna make the playoffs this year. I think it, I think it's gonna be wide open. But the Carolina Panthers, I think they could sneak in.

I don't think, I think it's gonna be tight. No, shit. All right, you don't believe that. Yes, I do. No, you don't. They're gonna be the worst, they're gonna be the worst team in the league. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa more times. Okay. So I can, but it is, I don't want to pick Super Bowl because I was, when I do the Super Bowl run like leading up to it, I, I systemically last year when I was doing my Super Bowl stuff,

I picked the Eagles one time, picked the, uh, cheese other time. That's smart. And when I was working, I was working at the Super Bowl, and I said hello because I was working to both teams the Cheese folks was like huh the Eagles gonna win, huh, and they remind me I'm like bro. I picked the Eagles That was like on Tuesday and so people remember so I'm not falling in that trap. Okay, all right You know what I that was a good answer. I'll give you four games to the panthers. Pants are gonna win four games

That was nice. I'm more than four games. That was nice to me. I just gave you four games for the Panthers. Panthers are gonna win four games. That was nice. That was nice to me. That was nice to me. I just gave you four games. So, okay, so here's a deal. If the Panthers win more than four games, whatever little promo you did, I want some joggers or something next. You just did for free.

Okay, all right, done. And then if you want to get my side, next medium, I want no sizes that you're trying to give to somebody with no buts at all. Okay. Okay. I want someone to take me. We'll get you, we'll get you all hooked up.

And if the Panthers win four or less games, we want some Steve Smith signed hats with the brim and everything. Absolutely. Okay. Done. I want you to be the one that bends them though. Like, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I want to see you. I want to see you you of you bending them. They're Steve Smith bent First of all, no one else bends my hat But me so I think they will only be never bend another man's hat. Yeah, we know that And there would be LA hats because that's outside of when I'm working on that work only where LA Okay, that's fine perfect. I look forward to getting a couple new hats. Oh, give it be great How about an easy prediction come back player of the year? You want to come back player of the year at one point, right? Because I put I put I put a little bit money on on your boy Baker. Yeah, can Russell Wilson win it for just being bad?

Yeah, that that's kind of how the comeback player year has has turned into that. Okay. I So I think Russell Wilson has a great opportunity with Sean Payton. What about all these guys got into OBJ if he comes back? Yes. Can Calvin really for gambling on football? Yeah, I think he can. Let me tell you that that's another one. Calvin really is going to bow. Yeah. He looks good. That's a man. That's a man on a mission. Yeah. And some corners are going to be.

And so corner is going to have to deal with that man being on a mission. Yes. Yes. Well, Steve, thank you so much. We'd love to have you back on sometime in the middle of the season. We can reassess. Absolutely. From our preacher. Yeah, you can start bending your hats. But yeah, appreciate the time, man, we're big fans of you. And we'll we'll give the speech when you get into

Kent. And if you want us to, we're happy to do that. Dog. We'll just bark. We'll just get up there and bark. For 20 minutes. It's all good small dog. Yeah. Big dog or small dog? Yeah, my poor. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh.

Oh, oh, oh, oh. We got you. I knew it. I knew it. So as I live, that I feel like, yeah, I'll take the little dog. All right, well, thanks so much, Steve. Appreciate it, man. Thanks, man.

I appreciate it, fellas. Y'all do a hell of a job, though, man. I'm really, I'm sincere. Y'all do a great job. Thanks so much. Appreciate that, man. We appreciate that. Steve Smith was brought to you by Sleep Number.

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of the National Football League. See store for details. And now, here's our exclusive interview with Billy Football. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is Billy Football to talk about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. We thought, given the fact that that Aaron Rogers played four snaps as a New York jet. We had to have Billy's take on it. Let's start here, Billy. We watched your live stream when Aaron Rogers went down. You immediately in very classic Billy fashion, you didn't accept truth. You were like, he's just slowing the game down.

This is a ploy. He's just slowing the game down. At what point during the game where you like, wait, he actually might be injured. This isn't just some type of gamesmanship. Well, there was a point when he stepped back off the cart. Oh, he was put on the cart. Yeah, okay.

And I was like, oh man, he's coming back out. They like did whatever test they had to do and he was fine. But then he just walked directly to the locker room. Yeah. And I was like, oh my God. He, there were so many thoughts I went through my mind. I thought that he like joined the jets to purposely sabotage Woody Johnson

because he made a vaccine one time. I had there was so many crazy things. I like the going from him coming out with an American flag in one of the greatest entrances since Mike Piazza on a different George Bush to do, throw like a six strike. It was too high. If you hadn't bought in on the Jets as a Jets fan, you did in that moment him running out with the flag.

I mean, hard knocks, you know, solid talking about how amazing he was in a throwing montage from week two of hard knocks. Like, there was so much hope in hype going up to that first drive. And you know, talking about the NFL script, like the only one who could have written that script is Al Qaeda. That's good.

That's good. I like that. So it was, I noticed though, it didn't take you that long to get back in the swing of things. It's not really pulling for your jets. Like we can do this. Come on. Zach Wilson, his ceiling is literally Patrick Mahomes. That's a fact. If he plays the best of his ability, you got back on the Zach Wilson train pretty quickly.

Are you sure? You had to. Yeah, I kind of agree with that. Yeah, you might as well just dilute yourself because you have spent the last six months maybe even longer. Wait, are you saying dilute yourself? No, I'm about to say, I think he was the better quarterback out there. Last night. Okay. Then he was on the other side. He only had one pick. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. If you look at more, if you look at how Josh played last night, if you take Josh Allen, Zach Wilson, Aaron Rogers, Josh Allen objectively had the worst night between all three of those. Playing.

No, just overall, Josh Allen's night was so bad that it was still take Aaron Rogers night being the worst. I mean, Joe, I'm making a joke, but thank you. Yeah, he definitely had a bad night, a really shitty night. And Billy, you are correct that you have to dilute yourself. You have to buy back into Zach Wilson, but what about the reports where it's like, Josh, or where it's like Zach Wilson is our guy, we're going to ride with Zach.

Do you want to bring in a different guy? So the thing is something that we didn't do last season is that if Zach Wilson, right. But he mounted some stuff. I think last night it was better than, you know, what most of thought would have happened. After the first pick, I freaked out. I was like, no, this can't be happening. It's happening again.

This is the first of five. Like make it stop, make it stop. It was terrible. But we just like, if Zach Wilson brings a win We can't still complain we need to stay on a side because he's all we got right now Did he bring the winner did did the defense bring the one and the running game and the put turn the thing is like We won the game without a quarterback, but oh, so he was way touchdown We said Wilson is in a quarterback

He was thrown in there last second. No one's prepared. He was literally dragged out. He probably is the most upset that Aaron Rodgers get hurt like out of anybody because he was supposed to just chill out this season, learn, have some pressure taking off him. And it's like, oh shit. You know, five minutes into the first game. I'm now under the gun again.

Like he's getting torn out, like that kid in that meme getting woken up by the prison guards and scared straight and he's just tweaking out. But he handled it decently. His pick was tough, it was a bad read under some pressure, but he made some decent throws down the stretch. And Garrett Wilson made up for a lot of the lack of skill by making it insane.

He played Garrett Wilson, played defense and offense on the same play. Exactly. It was an incredible, incredible job of taking a bad pass that should have been intercepted, tipping it back to himself for a touchdown. He played like quarterback, cornerback, wide receiver and volleyball on the same play.

It was incredible. That whole game was such like a torture chamber of emotion. Like going from that, you know, Wilson's pick, three, four turnovers by Josh Allen. By the way, the Jets defense as I've been. Incredible. Incredible. Punched him the fucking face. Yeah.

Like he was rattled. They rattled the fuck out of him. They took the guy That was like running over defenses like was big manning Every defense elite and they punched him in the mouth. He was they're like they're like Sean Strickland and Josh Alan was out of Sonya. Oh, so nice. So Billy's been watching sports. He just let everyone know Yeah, if we if we power ranked the division now Billy Where do we have the jets? I feel like we we can agree dolphins number one, right? As of right now. Yes, but I think the bills are definitely under the jets and I think you know

It's not like New England has competent quarterback play. That's true. Or Jones Mac Jones played better than everyone in the AFC's besides two Well, that's a lot sides to us. Let's win. Yeah. It's he played better than two guys in Rogers Lake. Josh Allen Zach Wilson. Yeah. And Rogers. That's three guys. And I think we can agree that the Jets defense and special teams finish second in a race of four people. Yeah.

No, but like we don't know what to expect next week. You know, correct. That's true. Yeah. That is why I'm watching games. You're right. Like we don't like we don't know if to expect next week. You know, correct. That's true. That is why we're watching games. You're right. Like, we don't know if Zach Wilson still sucks. I think we don't know. We don't know. He's now a 24 year old in the workforce.

That's true. Where you make the curve. That's where you turn around. How old are you really? 24. So that's Zach Wilson, Michael Parktime. Yeah. You know, like he was going poor time as a backup, but now he's ain't thrown back into full time. You never know what situations are going to be in. But he handled it pretty well. No one expected that except Al Qaeda.

He might get invited back onto the big show that he was on. Is what you're saying. Yeah, you just don't know. Wait, so Billy, what tell me what a like good jet season looks like now? Cause the defense is elite. Like that was very clear last night. They are one of the best defenses in the league. Do you think that the jets are a playoff team? I mean, it like as of right now, the nine and a half wins in the season goes down to six.

Oh, that's not a playoff team. Right. But next week, we might see that Zach Wilson has matured, has been able to get past some serious mental bounds. Aaron Rogers rubbed off on him, you know, that, you know, mentor porn. We saw in hard knocks over all the offseason may have worked. I mean, I'm like, Aaron Rodgers is gone. We have to move past that. I've, you know, went through every stage of denial about it, but, you know, we're just accepting what we have. We might have the same team we had last year, just better to have any

of us made on better. And you're like, you, I'm with you, by the way, like, there better. Do you have any regrets made on better? Any regrets? Any regrets? Any regrets? I'm with you by the way. Like there's no, you have no other option. Like to bash Zach Wilson right now would be stupid. It's like you're in a shitty situation, injuries happen. Let's fucking see what happens. I'm 100% on board with what you're thinking is.

Yeah, and if they lost, if they were just a little bit better than they were last year, they would have made the playoff. Right. And so they had Zach Wilson. So Zach Wilson, he doesn't have to be way better. He's got to be just 24. He just has to be like almost as good as Patrick Mahomes. He's got to be better than Billy. He's been a dead weight of 23 year old and 24 year old.

Yeah. What about real regrets? We have before the game, tweeting out a picture of your own Achilles heel. Yeah. When you did, yeah. I tweet out a photo of my jet sock, my Joan Namath's jet socks. And I just like took a picture of my Achilles. And like, there's so many weird things that happened

before the stream I was talking about how it doesn't matter that the giants played the night before in MetLife because the turf shitty anyway. So it's not like it's ruining anything that isn't ruined. And the turf fucked Aaron Rogers. I mean, if you're Woody Johnson, and whoever owns the Giants, the Mara's, change the fucking turf.

Get some good goddamn turf. Can they change the grass? They put in brand new turf this year, but it's still not grass. We know Aaron loves grass in hard knocks this year. He was on the practice field picking up pieces of grass. He was like smelling it, eating it. He loves grass in hard knocks this year. He was on the practice field picking up. Yeah pieces of grass He was like smelling it eating it. He loves grass and now the fact that he Doesn't play on grass fucked him over so Billy. I got a I got the schedule in front of me

Let's just do up until the buy week because it's not easy Zachless is really thrown into it at Dallas this week New England at home, Kansas City at home, at Denver, and then Philadelphia. That's tough. I was thinking before this game that that prime time chiefs game was going to be like serious deciding factor. Like is this a real team with Aaron Rogers at the helm? Now I'm just hoping that we, you know, pick

off a win versus Dallas because that's going to be a weird time with a week of Zach Wilson in the driver's seat. Yeah. And then who do we have after that Patriots? Patriots. That's going to be, you know, that's a mind-fucker. Yeah, you have. How many years? Wait, is it in New England? Do you have to go to the lighthouse? It's in New York. Yeah, I mean, those tickets are cheap now. I was actually looking at them. Oh, they are. Hey, you're so mad about the lighthouse.

You're obsessed with the lighthouse. No, you're obsessed with the lighthouse. It's a staple of New England, New England Patriots. That's a common like it's the most built a second lighthouse. You build a second lighthouse because the jumbo truck was too big for a person like that.

You're like this PFT. It's the biggest lighthouse in the world. I do like that. You build a second lighthouse because the jumbo truck was too big for you. You're like this PFT. It's the biggest lighthouse in the world. I do like that. Is that a fact? Yeah. That might not be true. Yes. It's kind of like saying that the Statue Liberty in Las Vegas is the second biggest

death in the world. Paul is lighthouse in America. But it's not. But it's not. It's not. It's not light as an America is not the world. It is to me. But it's not a real lighthouse.

It's a state lighthouse. It's got a real lighthouse. It's a stadium lighthouse. It's got lights in it. It's got a bell in case people see stuff coming off the coast. You need to have someone living in it though. It's a real lighthouse. I've all got here. The house part is half of it. Biggest lighthouse in the world.

Billy, I'm just going to throw a couple names at you. You tell me if you get a little rush of blood to your wee wee on this one, okay? All right Carson Wentz No, I did see someone some NFL writer. It was a very funny tweet. They're like the Jetson should sign Carson Wentz And tell him none of this bullshit off script stuff if you don't see it eat it and This is last chance to compete and he'll probably comply.

It's like, what? Excuse me. I mean, whatever. See Carson wins play football. He's a little like, what is this plan you put out there? So I tweeted out the picture of the Carson wins Letterman jacket Photoshop yesterday to just to fuck with Jets fans. But then I thought that would actually destroy me if Carson wins with the Jets and want to support me. that would actually destroy me. If Carson went to the Jets and want

to support me, that would absolutely destroy me. So I hope he doesn't do that, Billy. Nick Falls. Nick falls. No, the only the only person who would, you know, get my interest and look, I rather die with Zach Wilson, then just throw, you know, one of these guys in and just have some shit show happen because that just feels worse. Like Zach Wilson, then just throw, you know, one of these guys in and just have some shit show happen because that just feels worse. Like Zach Wilson seems self-inflicted, whereas if you just bring another guy and it's just shit show, it's just like fuck. Right. Who's your guy? Someone who has a lot of family based here. Come on, baby. It's a whole TV.

I'm talking about Tom Brady. Tom, I mean, it's a crazy thought. It really is the only one. He's a lot of kids are here. Kids are there. So he has a place. If you know, that's the only person where it's like, yeah, let's take a chance on that. But you know, we got to ride with Zach Wilson.

You know, Flacco is hanging around out there. If we just want to have them there to just like be dad there somebody else to rub off. Yeah, yeah, what about James? No, dude, you know, dude the thing is James like acting up doing James is fine when you're not in a Jets You know for okay Higher standard it just will look stupider like higher standard. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the history of bad weird Jets quarterback play not because you expect more out of them. The New York Post like if something weird happens it'll be national news. It's not like like that's what happens. Okay about Bordles. Oh he's got a history of racket. Well yeah we have that he he would be. Beca, can you text Bordles? Yeah.

What about what about Kyle Orton? No, he's too old. What about cappernet? Bortles are tired Billy. I have to say that. Yeah, he's building houses. Yeah, he's building houses. Did you know that? I didn't know that. I thought it was just confirmed like in the new thing, but he doubled the clicks. He confirmed it by saying it. I know but you knew it would have I didn't know if he was actually then seen doing it by a third party. I don't think he was seen doing it by a third party I think the third party just listen to the podcast. I have to admit I had forgotten about that. I really got me Yeah, clicks are clicks. Okay, so what are their names? I saw case key them throwing out. Chad Kelly. And Chad Kelly. High L. E. C. F. L. player. Oh,

I like Andy Dolph would be sick. Man, you know, be funny. If they got Kaepernick, but to offset all the haters of Kaepernick, they also got T. Bo at the exact same time. Let him compete. Honest open competition to best quarterbacks at victory formation, right? Yeah. Yeah. The media circus around that would take a lot of heat off a zack and he might actually be able to do something.

But Billy, who you should actually get, who you should actually try to go for. And never in a million years with this happened till later on the season. If the Vikings have a bad year, you should try to make a play for Kurt Cussins. It's his last year under contract in Minnesota. And so he's going to be a free agent after it's like kind of like what baseball does where it's like, okay, if you have valuable asset, you're not competing, you can sell when you're

guys try to get something back for them before they hit free agency. It's not going to happen in Minnesota. Probably they wouldn't deal them before they hit free agency, it's not gonna happen in Minnesota, probably they wouldn't deal them probably for the entire season, most likely. But if they start out with a really shitty record, you should make a case for that. That's also, Patrick, he'd fit in well, but I mean, there's nothing we gotta ride with Zach Wilson,

and then when if he wins, but performs badly, we need to not give him a hard time right because like and you wouldn't so it's really a mess in shawl jets fans just please please jets fans this is all we got we have to make the best something out of nothing like he is the most qualified person right now he's been well, the other season, he knows the offense. He knows the personnel, you know, he got thrown into a craze and he made some decent throws. Yeah, but Billy, I wouldn't say that's like the most

qualified person. Like it's the most available. If I've, if I've been hanging out with porn stars all summer, I wouldn't be like, yo, I'm, I'm the most qualified person to shoot pornography. Yeah. I don't have a skill set. Well, if you're, well, if you're most available, second team reps with them, you think you might be a little more qualified.

You might not get stage fright or something. I just think that there's probably some better options out there. But the jets do after saying Zach's our guy, we're going to try to go as Zach. You at least have to try to roll the Zach for at least one week. Yeah. Yeah. And the good news is the Cowboys defense isn't that good. Right.

But the real thing is honestly, yeah, they are. I mean, they shut out the giants. Yes. But the thing is if Zach Wilson has a bad game against the Cowboys, and like, it's a decent, like, okay, tough game. We got one more chance. The thing is fucking Bill Bellachack is gonna do some weird shit sia up like an experienced quarterback thing where he's gonna break him and everyone's gonna be like, Zach Rulz, who can't be the starter, but like the thing is if he plays next week at the

Broncos, uh, chiefs. Also not a very good shit. Shit. Fuck. It's a brutal schedule. Yeah, it is. That's a brutal, brutal schedule. You know, it's actually brutal. It's a worse schedule for us as football watchers.

Yeah, because we have to watch five more games of New York Jets in prime time this. Yeah, we have Jets Chiefs prime time. We have Jets Chargers prime time. We have Jets Raiders prime time. We have jets, browns prime time in week 17. Some of these can be flexed by the way. That's a lot of prime time. I mean, we won last night, but at what cost?

Everything. It would have been better, almost if they lost. Yeah, to lose if a healthier and Rogers in a loss would have been better. Almost if they lost yet to lose with a healthy iron Rogers in a loss would have been better. Absolutely. I also did a joint. The joint. Yeah, crazy joint. Crazy flag to crazy.

But like, do you think Aaron's going to retire? Do you think he's played his last football? Hmm. Good question. Good question. I mean, it depends on how. It depends on how bad like I, I, from what I've heard, a rupture is just black and white. Like, you see their full blown or it's nothing.

And he's had some calf problems in that same leg during the preseason stuff. And I don't know if they're connected, but I don't know how you get back into a training camp as at 40 year olds. Like, it's like, it sounds like I know. I woke up this morning and thought the whole thing was like a nightmare. Yeah, at least you had this off season. This off season was very good.

We get the first round pick. We get the first round pick is in place six, five percent of the snaps. Yeah, it goes to a second to the Packers. I have one last question for you, Billy. You're looking good. You're looking skinny. Is that because you're not just getting free meals from us?

No, I'm going to be honest. Sleep. Sleep. Oh, nice. We worked you too hard. Nice. Sleep, baby. Did you miss us Sunday or no?

On Sunday, it was weird. It was weird. You were at a beer garden. Well, yeah. Go dogs won. Yeah, you have a supreme. The real championship. Yeah, the dog's a win.

Are we going to win the championship again? Dude, we're going to Philly. I suggest you guys go to Philly two in two weeks. Is that insane? What day is that of the week? It's a Sunday, but it's only one game. But it's not during football, right? It's during, but like the one o'clock game sucked this weekend. Yeah, you said that. I you were watching them. You were I was. I mean, I was doing my duties as ownership

representation. Am I still, am I still technically? Yes. Okay, perfect. But we were watching red zone and other stuff. Got it. Yeah, I liked how you did pre-like, these games suck anyway. Yeah, it was, I mean, it sucks. Not being able to watch all the football. So then you just see the highlights and they're all blowouts and it's like, yeah. Yeah.

But, yeah. All right. By the way, also, I didn't mess up the studio. Can we just get this on? Billy, make sure they don't throw away the octopus, please. Also the lottery ball machine. Yes, also my Zach Wilson Jersey got sent to you guys. I was looking for it today.

Apparently got sent to you guys. OK. Gosh, guys, it's only you had all the time in the world to take whatever you wanted from the studio. Well, I think those Zach Wilson would be starting again. Oh, but like we as if we we didn't want it. No, we don't want it from the studio. Like, he knows that Wilson would be starting again. Oh, but like we, as if we, we didn't want it. No, we don't want it. Should we burn it?

Like, we burn it? No, no, no. Maybe we can do it from your account? No. I kind of want it now. I kind of want to burn it and be like, Billy had us do this. Yeah.

Just don't let them throw away the octopus. I was, okay. Can I have the squat rack? Do you guys need that? No, go for it. You can have that. I'm just going to take the box. You need another one of those.

Yeah, Billy, you do look kind of thin. Is there anything else you want to tell us about your body? Are you going to get like doling squat racks in your apartment? What's going on inside your body? I'm just going to enhance my current squat rack. Got it. Yeah. So remember like a year ago, I got bit by that tick.

Yeah, yeah, for work. I'm allergic to red meat. Oh, yeah, this is a plug. This is a plug you need. Yeah, yeah. Hey, Billy, what? Billy, last question, rowback question, use promo code, take 20% offer for first purchase,

QZ, call the Sony's joggers. Billy, thank you so much for joining us. Do you have anything you want to plug? Yeah, so apparently I have an incurable red meat allergy, and I'm making a production, a documentary of sorts about dealing with this forced veganism from unknown origins of a little insect assassin. So wait, is it unknown origins or is it known origins from a tick? Well, the tick, we don't know where the tick came from. We don't know how it gained these powers to make grown men not be able to eat meat.

Is the tick still alive? No, it's probably dead. Okay, I was gonna say, we'll get seal team six on this tick. We're gonna be trying to figure out different ways to try to get rid of this red meat allergy, trying like witch doctor stuff, acupuncture, Western medicine doesn't have a cure, but tune in soon, macro dosing YouTube,

the search for the ability to eat red meat again. Got it. You could just eat it. You go to like a butcher shop. No, I blow up my face blows up. I think you have to eat ticks. I think you have to find as meat ticks is possible. Tick man. Yeah, you can only eat ticks from now on. Yeah. Good news is, Billy, there's a guy in New Jersey who's really good at like weird medicine

that has his schedule is cleared up now. Oh, yeah, true. Yeah, true. Hit him up. He can sell to crystals. Yeah. All right, Billy, thank you. Nice guys.

Good luck the rest of the season. Once again, it's Billy football. You can find him at Billy Hot Takes on Twitter. And I know you have a heart out. So we'll be respectful of your time, Billy. Thank you so much, Billy. Thank you so much, Billy. Billy football is brought to you by our good friends

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People liked Max's more. Oh, Max's killed it. Yeah. Max also had the energy because he won. Yeah. And also calling him Tampa Bay Max killed it. Yeah. Max also had the energy because he won. Yeah. And also called him Tampa Bay legend Tom Brady. Yeah.

We might have to, we might have to mix up a couple of, a couple of boomers here and there with you and Max doing your games. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed listening to it. I just got to get better at reading. It's also nice because we can basically just, it's like a group project PFT and I are working on it.

We're like, you handle this. You handle the first two slides. You should do a dress rehearsal of it, Hank. Just practice, practice reading in the mirror. My actually on Sunday, we'll have you write one live during at the end of Sunday's show. We'll have you do the Patriots' dolphins. Exciting.

Yeah. All right. My fiancee asked me to go look at wedding venues last month. She offered some dates and without thinking I told her this past Sunday was fine. So I missed the whole first week of the end of the season. Dude, you got to pretend that something came up. I'm sure it was still fun going around. I don't think you can fuck around with wedding stuff. Looking at different halls and VFW halls. That's there. That's their NFL someday.

Speaking of Jimbo's on on this topic, did you see it went like mini viral the guy who texted his hockey team and it was like, Hey, sorry guys, last minute, but feel really sick. I'll let you know if anything changes, but I'm not going to make the game today. And then on the group chat, he accidentally texted the next text that it was meant for like his family, being like, hey everyone, feel free to bring whatever, we'll have all the games on. Like, come on, bring the kids,

we're gonna have the whole set up, excited for football. Listen, week two, maybe you could get away, you can't do that week one. No, you can't. Every Sunday, you really need to be, do you really need a wedding? No.

Let's go to a courthouse. You just gotta make sure, you know, yeah, I mean, that's week one dude. You can't, you can't as week one. Bride Zillow's though, I feel like you can't fuck around. No. Well, here's the thing, as a guy, if you go along on that trip, you're just gonna be nodding your head

yes to whatever your wife wants to do anyways. Yeah, it's a call. You should've just had red zone. Did you see the guy who also laid Cuomo with red zone? What a boss. Yeah. During an online job interview for one of the questions, I accidentally submitted a video talking about

why I'm not good for the job. Oh, why would you even have a video? Yeah, that's a trick video. Why would you say like in the interview that you have here all the reasons why you shouldn't hire me? The correct answer is like the old Michael Scott, like I worked too hard, I'm too dedicated.

I've got too good of attention to detail in the reasons why you shouldn't hire me. Yeah, maybe this one actually works though because it is like whatever you were in a job interview and they asked for a week and she's like, I care too much. So this one, you had honesty. That could work out.

Also you set the bar very low. If they hired you, you're like, hey, you guys saw the video. I'm not good at this. Yeah. You shouldn't hired me. It's kind of on them. Yeah, just wow. I just don't understand why you would possess a video like that in the first place.

Yeah, that's something that Mike Babcock would find quickly. Why you stinkin' hockey. Wait, what's this on your phone? My work called me Saturday asking me to come in early. Instead of just saying no, I instead said I was sick and couldn't come in. But I was in fact very clearly and obviously drunk at a college football game. And my boss definitely knows because I took the call on speaker phone as we got a third down stop. That's sick.

You are sick, if you're drunk, you're unable to come into work for medical reasons. Also, your body's undergoing a medical condition where there's alcohol in it and you're unfit to be at work, you should be allowed to call and drunk. This also goes back to football season. You can't call in football season, like you can't call on a Saturday.

You, you, Saturday. Yeah, but if you want to, if you, if you're asking for late help, it's got to be a Friday call. It's just a Friday night, technically not the weekend. You have to show up. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's a fact. All right, last one. My brother and I booked a frontier all caps. Flight from Philly to Charlottes. The Sunday morning of a three day bachelor party for 10 a.m Walk up at six to get from Ocean City, Maryland to Philly. Oh drop off the rental car Flight gets canceled on the shuttle to the terminal. Oh had to rent another car and drive home 14 hours of travel not feeling great on the first Sunday of football.

Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Although, I would say frontiers, like the Cadillac of the low three, the spirit, a legend frontier. Yeah. I think frontier is the best out of those three, right? You, this is, these gymbos, though, are just like, I feel like maybe next year we have to do a better job

in August of reminding people when week one starts because it's just a lot of like week one errors. You need to have your stuff set up to be like, hey, week one's coming, get, like that's a Saturday night fly out bachelor party situation. You gotta be able to wake up in your own bed on week one and be like, I'm ready to go. It's really a bachelor party situation

where you wanna stay all day on Sunday. Yeah, that too. And watch all the games. Good point. You could easily do that. Yeah, you picked the worst option. So that's, listen, this is why, it's actually the NFL's fault.

Now that I'm thinking about it, NFL should change their preseason schedule to mimic the regular season where it's all the preseason games are on a Sunday so we can have a real like drive run of how a lot of bullets. Yeah. Yeah. Like why wouldn't they? The third preseason game should be exactly set up like a Sunday in the NFL and let everyone just run through the motions. Or they should have a week zero in the NFL. Yeah. And you only have one game at at one o'clock and then one game at four o'clock and then

you have the Sunday night game. Yeah. So you don't miss the entire thing, but it's a week zero. You go through the motions, but not every team's playing. Yeah, the Bears get to play, maybe, for Ohio. Yeah, it's perfect. Get a win. Yeah, let everyone get a win. Have a game in Hawaii. Yeah, everyone starts with all the best players

playing against each other. That'll be great if there's a week zero where everyone starts wanting to know. Yeah, if everyone starts wanting to know, it's no competitive advantage. True. Everyone feels good. Yeah, If everyone starts wanting out, it's no competitive advantage. True. And everyone feels good. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Good job. Uh, Friday, we have a great interview in person with Jo Kim Noah and also possibly one of our favorite recurring guests back on the show. Hmm. So get excited.

And we're also, oh, do we know what the, the standings or we'll do it. We'll do it Friday, we'll talk about the punishment in the gambling. Okay, numbers 77, three, 18, whoa, what was that Jay? 18, one, 20, memes you ever gotten this? Nope, but I should 50, we're gonna get it today. 30! Nope. Not even close.

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